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Jackie E-mails 15

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Kaltenbrunner:

This page covers emails exchanged by Chris and [[Jackie]] from 16-23 [[September 2010]].

Chris prompts Jackie to not demand so many videos, and not have information out; not because it's too much effort and would cause him stress, but to protect her identity... HONEST and TRUE. Jackie points out how Chris is still an addict, Chris disagrees, so that has to be good enough, since her opinion MUST be inferior to his. Chris has been buying more games, spent most of his tugboat already; "spent less to make more profit" is still spending. The job hunt has been completely forgotten. Chris makes a bold speech about cyber-bullies and online trolls, immediately make it all about himself.

{{EmailReply|September 16, 2010 - 7:34pm

We all learn from our past mistakes. I've made a lot myself with my past times on the [[internet]] like you did here. All we can do is just not to think about it and move forward in life. Chalk this to another thing you and I have in common; there's [[Nudes|naked pics]] of us on the internet, yet they ended up there by mistake (or in some of my cases, from deception, blackmail and spyware).

Jackie, I am proud of you for sharing your [[honest]]y and emotions with me; your story shall remain strictly confidential between you and me. And I am here for you, as your trusted Sweetheart. LOL :)

I am happy I could make you happy, [[Sweetheart]]. XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO

As for your contest, it is a fun idea, but I feel posting daily on the [[YouTube]] is too much. As a strict rule on internet safety: Keep your personal information to yourself and not make it go public. But I have a better idea that I feel will allow you to see me on the daily fun as well. I will take photographs daily of thing(s) I'm doing and such, and e-mail them to you. And in each of those e-mails, I will confide a secret with you.

There's too much of me on the internet these days, and I do not want to put any more stuff about me online that the trolls can toy with to make my reputation worse, and even worse bring more shame to my family.

And I want a daily secret and current photographs from you as well in response to each of my photo(s) and secret(s) I send you daily. Keeping all that in mind with the rest of your rules, you agree to my amendments, and I will "participate in your contest". Okay, Jackie-Heart? :)

I'll TTYL. 
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO <3<3<3<3<3<3<3 
Christian.}}

{{Email|September 16, 2010 - 8:19pm

Chris, are you ashamed of our love? We have nothing to hide. I didn't mean I want you to post super-confidential stuff. Just little fun things. Like, your favorite food, or a fond memory, or something. Is thirty seconds a day really too much to ask? All I wanted is for you to put on a simple costume or something, turn on the camera, dance a little and say hi and say a little "secret", and that's it. Once a day. I don't get why you won't do that for me.

In fact, I feel a little hurt that you would put down my contest and try to take it over. I'm doing this contest so you can win me - all of me, Chris. I want us to fuck baby, I want to pleasure you - but as a reward. Haven't you put me through enough emotional turmoils, enough ups and downs? This is a very small request, Chris. ESPECIALLY seeing as you have now prematurely seen me naked. Please, Chris. Don't make me beg. I want you to do this contest. If you do it, and you play by my rules, I promise to reward you. Will secrets, will pictures, and with my sex. But you have to show some effort and what you replied with made me cry! I am still crying all over my key board. I don't want to cry! Do you want me to cry?? I would hope not… but then again, I hoped you would do my contest....

Now my night is ruined... :'( :'( :'(

Jackie}}

{{Email|September 17, 2010 - 8:08pm

Chris, why haven't you written back to me yet?? I was crying so much yesterday that now my [[cat]] got upset and ran out of the house, and now I can't find him! I'm afraid my cat ran away!! Where have you been, Chris??}}

{{EmailReply|September 18, 2010 - 3:48pm

I've had a busy day yesterday running errands with my family and such. Oh my god, I am soo sorry to hear that you lost your cat. I pray that you'll find him/her soon and safe. The best you can do is print and put up a few flyers with a photo on it and your best contact info.

And I did not realize that you only wanted Little Details; I thought you meant Really, Deep Secrets that NO One Else would know. I am soo sorry for the misunderstanding. Since that is the case, I Will make the short, fun videos for your contest. You have your man. ;) And a different silly costume per day is a bit much, unless I'm misunderstanding that detail, and you really mean different sets of clothing from what I normally wear. Please verify that for me.

Good News, the Sale of my [[Sega]] Consoles went through successfully; $120 easy. Since we're delaying our meet, though, I put half of it into my bank, and gave the other half to my father to help quell the debt a bit.

I also have an idea, and a suggestion for you, for an article for your School Paper, and a way you and I can meet sooner. :) You can do an article on Internet Safety and Cyber-Bully/Troll Protection, and since you know a Big Time Victim of years of this torment ([[Christian Weston Chandler|me, LOL]]), you can personally interview me while I offer my own personal views, tips for safety and protection, etc. This would work soo goood for you and me; a great article for you to write, you and I can meet sooner, and this article would help give me a better reputation over what's been said on the internet. Think it over and get back to me on that.

One more thing, even though I did get a sneak peak of you, it did give me something better of you to [[Mass debate|jack off]] to, and even better; I've been jacking off sometimes with you in my mind, imagination and heart, and now I have a better perception of your pretty breasts. Plus, this allowed me to see your figure, and let me tell you, you have a Great Figure, Jackie. :) Take everything I'm confiding into you right now as a big compliment, Sweetheart.

Also, I've attached photos of [[Chris's room|my room spread]], and a new photo of myself in a [[Chris and Fashion|fun shirt]] I purchased from Spencers a few months ago, for you. Look at me, I'm an Archer, and I'm aiming my arrow at you, because I want you and I Love You.

Enjoy. :)

I'll bug ya later, Sweetheart. 
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3 
Christian.}}

{{Email|September 18, 2010 - 5:54pm

Hi Chris!

Oh honey, I'm sorry we got that confused. I guess I wasn't clear the first time I brought up the "secret" thing. Thank you so much for clearing it up for me. Whew, that's a load off my mind. As for the [[Cosplay|costumes]], I also didn't mean for you to do anything too extravagant for those, since they'd be daily and of course it would be a pretty big hassle if you had to make up something big for each day. I was just thinking you could do some simple little costume piece each day, like maybe paint your face up one day, or wear a cape around your shoulders, or put a paper mask on, or something like that. Nothing too fancy. I'm sure I can think of some simple suggestions along the way, too. :) Tell you what, I'll come up with a list of ideas that I think will work.

So, I'm glad that you liked the picture of me. So you jack off with me in mind sometimes? What other things do you think of when you do it? ;) I guess [[Lars]]' treachery had at least one good effect. I've been trying to write him to tell him off for what he did, but I don't have his number anymore and the email address I have for him seems to be invalid now because my emails are getting bounced back. I really want to lay into him, though. I wish I knew how to locate him or contact him. Any suggestions on how to find a person? He's probably laughing to himself right now about releasing my pictures. Worthless prick. Agh, he just gets me so angry and upset all at the same time. I'm glad I have you to vent to about it, though, sweetie :)

You know what? I really like your article idea! I have a midterm project coming up that's based around doing an interview, and I was going to do something internet-related anyway; I think this would be a really interesting path to take, I'll tell my professor about it on Monday. In the meantime, I'm going to start putting together a structure for the interview, questions I can ask, that sort of thing. By my next email I should have some preliminary questions I can ask you and you can give me some detailed answers, and then we can build it from there. Unfortunately, like I said I really don't think I'm going to have time to come home again before November 1st, but look at it this way: If I'm integrating you into my schoolwork, then we'll be that much closer for the duration! I'm sorry sweetie, I know it's tough not seeing me, I don't like not seeing you either, but I'm just getting so swamped this term :( But it's only just going to be a few weeks before I'm definitely home anyway, and starting on the 1st I'll have some extended leave time from school so we can spend ALL our time together :)

Thanks for the pictures of your room, I was kind of hoping for a video of it, but these are still cool. Looks like there's a lot of interesting stuff with history in there. I have a few questions about some of it: 
-Right below that [[The Simpsons|Marge Simpson]] picture to the right of your tv, there's [[:File:454-CWCsPossibleFuture.JPG|a picture]] of two people sitting on a couch on a blue background, what is that? 
-Right to the left of the [[TV]] there's a thing that looks like a black wand with a small light bulb on it hanging off your shelf, what is that thing? 
-Are those VHS tapes on the bottom of your shelf in those blue boxes? I haven't seen a VHS tape in a long time, what do you have on all those? Home movies? 
-On the arm of your couch, there's [[Plush Breasts|a pink thing]] that looks kind of like a pillow, but it's oddly shaped. What is it? Where did you get it?

Well anyway, I've got some other homework to do right now, but I'm going to start crafting the questions for my interview with you. I'm really excited about this!! I mean, people have written articles on cyberbullying before, but you've got kind of a unique perspective that I don't think has ever really been brought into such an article before. I'll write to you soon!! :) :) :)

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

Jackie

P.S. My cat is fine now, turns out he was just hiding in the bushes at a house a block away, they called and let me know. The mischievous little scamp is back home safe and sound. :)}}

{{EmailReply|1=September 19, 2010 - 1:54pm

I'm happy that you're happy again, and that you liked my suggestion for the interview.

To answer your questions, A) [[Random-access humor|my mind is random]], and during masturbation, it can be a pain while I'm concentrating on having you [[:Image:Christshirt37.png|mounted]] on me with your hair waving about, the pleasured look on your face, your breasts bouncing, and your bod going up and down. :) Aside from the imagination-play, whatever else current-topic can randomly pop in for a short moment for one or few seconds. When the side-thought goes away, my mind goes blank, and I have to concentrate to put you back up there, but it's a fairly quick recovery. B) [[:File:454-CWCsPossibleFuture.JPG|That]] is a pastel drawing I drew in [[High School]] of a likely future for me; me and [[Lovely Weather|my future wife]] (physical appearance to actual future not necessarily applicable) and our child watching television. That's on the right half of the drawing; on the left half I'm working at a job on an assembly line. C) The wands with the spheres are my Playstation Move Motion Controllers; I got those, plus a Navigation Controller and Sports Champions recently after preordering them with the HUGE Credit I got from trading in a ton of Software; mostly from my Game Boy Advance collection.

I'm going to go off-topic for a bit, here. I have been playing video games ALL of my life from after I was born, starting from a Commodore 64 Computer. I have been working more on being social in real life and other [[Church|social activities]], and I am looking to do more of such and then some with you in the near future. I was [[Pokemon League|very social-able]] in Middle and High School. And I am looking for more job opportunities to apply for. The point is, Video Games have been a Major Part of my whole life and who I am, but [[Sex|real-life duties]] always will take higher priority over them. Plus I have been giving you my heart-filled energy and compassion, and I have recently sold away the vast majority of my Older Consoles and their software I've been holding onto for soo long. I will sometimes get a new piece of software for my current console, but it is NOT Often. I am asking you to not judge me for my gaming ways, because I am a LOT more than that, as you are aware.

I apologize for going into detail like that, but I felt it was applicable to establish that point. So, in a sense, I am blowing off the steam your way in confidence.

Going back to the Q&A, D) I do have a ton of VHS Tapes in those small boxes down there. NOT so many [[Chris's DVD|home movies]]; it's 99% TV Shows and Movies; about 50-75% being Cartoons and Animation. Currently, I am without a VCR that has a working VHS-Playing capacity, and I am looking for a fully operational replacement for an inexpensive price. And E) that [[Plush Breasts|pink thing]] is a Pillow, which is shaped to simulate a pair of womanly breasts with erect nipples. I got it at Spencers a while back. It is good for neck support while I slumber.

I am happy that we got the misunderstandings for the YouTube vids you want me to make later cleared up too. Inexpensive, fun things I can put on for fun. I've come up with a few comical skit ideas, but I'll let you wait to see them for yourself. ;)

Revenge is a dish best served cold. The recent situation with Lars and the photograph(s) is nothing major. I'd suggest just letting it go and moving on with your life. Normally, though I would suggest ignoring the Trolls, but if you feel like you really need to lash out at Lars, then I would say inquire this "Robert" person about where he found the photograph, specifically, with the webpage's address. It is also possible that "Robert" may actually be Lars going by an alias, but do not be sure until you've found more. You may also try googling Lars by his full name and see if you can find his current e-mail address. But I warn you, should you contact "Robert", be wary of his possible Trolling/Cyber-Bully methods; do not respond in anger, and if you feel like he is a "Dead End" towards getting to Lars, then STOP communications with him, Block his e-mail, and Do Not Reply.

I am [[Don'tGetTrolled!|reminded]] of a [[Flipnote Hatena|FlipNote]] I've watched on the Hatena through my DSi, you can view it here...
http://flipnote.hatena.com/556109A0A0F27939@DSi/movie/F27939_09D08B2023EB4_016?in=user
I also have it saved on my DSi's SD Card. It speaks truth on the Trolls and essentially dealing with them by just Ignoring Them.

I look forward to the interview, I am free to drive over to your place to do the interview in person, but Q&A over e-mail is cool.

I'll TTYL. 
Stay Safe and Sweet, Sweetheart. 
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3 
Christian.}}

{{Email|September 19, 2010 - 8:20pm

Hey Chris!

Chris, I'm kind of surprised that you brought up your video game addiction, that came out of the blue. But I appreciate you feeling like you can talk to me about it and vent your feelings to me. Since you brought it up, I'll reply with my understanding of the situation:

Video games have definitely been a huge part of your life and still are; you say that you are getting over your addiction, but that is obviously not true. You say that you have recently sold off so much of your older games - which is good - then you used the credit you got from that to just go buy new video game toys anyway. And you couldn't be bothered to work up a little spending money to go to Otakon, and you kept making up the excuse that your parents would have you arrested if you tried to come see, but it took you a short four days to work up $300 for a new PS3 when you wanted a new one, even though you told me you could go a long time without a PS3 and I asked you to do so.

So your addiction is every bit as strong as ever. But you know that, I know that, let's not talk about your unwillingness to change your habits since there's nothing new to say. Let's talk about the interview! You know, I was thinking to myself that email might not be the best way to conduct the interview, as we would have to wait for each others' replies and the question-and-answer process could take a long time. I think it would be really helpful if I could talk to you over Instant Messaging so that we can have the conversation in real-time. When would you be able to be online and do that with me, sweetie? I still have to put together a list of questions (Today was a busy day) but how about we do it Tuesday afternoon or evening?

I have to go for now, but I'll write more later sweetie!!

XOXOXOXO

Jackie}}

{{EmailReply|September 20, 2010 - 6:15pm

Although, I feel uncertain with the IM situation, but I'm willing to try it. I think I still have AIM access through this e-mail of mine; I'll add your e-mail address and see if I can get a connection or something going there. On the other hand, doesn't your room over there have a phone? That can be a plan "B", a phone conversation. If we go with the phone conversation, I'll need the phone number's Area Code, so I can watch for it on my Cell's Caller ID.

Anyhoo, I appreciate your understanding of my gaming thing here, but I feel disagreement with still having a major addiction. I feel that after you and I get together in person, I will be spending a lot less time on my games. You see, I feel if I have you, a real person, my girlfriend and Sweetheart to better influence me to do more outside activities and such, things will work out well. The sooner I have you with me, the more I can get out of my house. Flipside, if I came to you over there, it's the same thing, but I'd be going to you. :)

I look forward to doing the interview and offering my thoughts to you for the article.

TTYL. 
Stay Safe and Sweet, 
XOXOXOXOXO <3<3<3<3<3<3<3 
Christian.}}

{{Email|September 20, 2010 - 7:01pm

Hey Chris!

I totally get where you're coming from on the gaming addiction thing, sweetie - bargaining is a very common way of avoidance when one has an addiction; that is to say, your attempt to bargain that "if you had me, then you'd stop playing games so much" is totally understandable. But that's why you have to leave your comfort zone and actually try to make things better now, rather then wait for some hypothetical situation where everything is perfect - because if you keep to that attitude, then even after we meet in person you'll have some new requirement that has to be met before you'll start working on your addiction, and then another, and then another, so on, etc. But breaking out of that bargaining addict's attitude is key to success - you can't count on me, or anyone else to just magically make your addiction go away. You have to do it yourself. And right now you're obviously still at a place where you don't want to get better, because you're still placing the onus on me to fix your addiction for you. I can't do that now, and I can't do it after we meet in person. The onus is yours, Chris. But I know you have the true strength and will to overcome your hurdle when you finally decide to step it up, sweetie. I have faith in you!! <3 <3 <3

Anyway, I don't really like the idea of using the phone for an interview. It's a lot easier to have a record of the conversation from the IM log so that I can better incorporate it into my paper; if we did it on the phone I'd be halting to write notes of your responses constantly. I added your email to my AIM list, you should add mine. Let's both be online tomorrow night at 9:00pm. That should give us plenty of time to talk together. And if we don't cover everything I'd like to, we can just continue it again another night! (We can talk more anyway even when I'm done doing the interview :)

Well, I'm going to start putting together some questions again. I don't want to have a huge script or anything for what we talk about, because I think it will flow better if we can have a natural conversation and let things come up as they become important. But I have some broad topics I'll want to bring up when we begin. And I'm sure you also have some ideas about the important subjects that you think need to be given priority, so you can bring those up to when we are doing it. I'll write more later, but I look forward to IMing tomorrow night, hon!!!

XO XO XO XO XO XO XO XO

Jackie}}

{{EmailReply|September 21, 2010 - 5:33pm

I will be online tonight at about 8:45, and I'll wait for your IM on my AIM, and we'll see if we can [[Jackie Chat 1|successfully talk there]].

In response to your first paragraph of the last e-mail, I did not mean to imply any "[[Harry Potter|magical]]" riddance of my addiction with your presence or such. I meant that with you getting me out of the house more often to be with you and whatnot, I'd be doing more outside things away from my games. And After doing a great number of outside activities a number of times, Then my addiction may fade into something smaller. I do not have that many ideas of places or events I would enjoy for myself by myself. I have tried such with events like the concerts at [[Fridays After Five|Fridays After 5]]; by my lonesome, it wasn't all that swift for me; I need someone my age range like you to enjoy such things with and make me better enjoy them.

I have a lot of things to discuss with tonight for your article, in addition to your questions, so I should have a lot for the article for you. :) Plus, I have in-game photographed my TrollBusters, Cal and Dee Dee (Dee^2), their TrollBuster Truck (a cleaned and souped-up Garbage Truck), myself as an honorary TrollBuster, the sponser car, and a T-Shirt I have come up with for possible creation and promotional distribution to make people aware of the Trolls and protecting themselves from them. Attached are the photographs.

I'll TTYTonight. 
Stay Safe and Sweetest, 
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO <3<3<3<3<3<3<3 
Christian.}}

{{Email|September 22, 2010 - 8:27pm

Hey Chris!

So Samantha sent me an email talking about your recent discussions with her, she wrote to me to blow off some steam - she was mad because you've been lying to her repeatedly. And then she said YOU got offended at HER because she tried to call you out on your wrongdoing and that you claimed she was "raising her voice" every time she was simply standing up for herself; that's why she wrote me so angry. How come you don't want to talk to have your talks with her anymore? I mean, aside from myself she's kind of your only friend, and now you want to blow her off just because she stood up for herself and wouldn't just be a doormat to your disrespect? I guess if that's the way you want to go, by all means, but you complain a lot how much trouble you have making new friends, so I don't get why you want to just toss away one that's been trying very hard to help you. Well, since she wrote to me I thought I should let you know.

Anyway, since we had been talking about the CWCki last night, I looked again today, and there's a new page. Apparently they have records of your Best Buy purchases. Looking at that, here's a list of how much you've spent lately, and the dates you spent on (I bolded the dollar amounts to make them stand out):

9/20/2010: a [[PSN]] card, [[Wikipedia:Silent Hill (film)|Silent Hill the movie]], [[Wikipedia:Resident Evil 5|Resident Evil 5]]. '''$43.98''' 
9/17/2010: a [[PSEye|Playstation Eye]] camera mount. '''$14.99''' 
9/06/2010: a [[Netflix]] 1 month subscription. '''$8.99''' 
8/05/2010: Two PSN cards. '''$20.00''' 
7/30/2010: A PSN card. '''$10.00''' 
7/16/2010: [[ModNation Racers]] for [[PSP]]. (Don't you already have that for PS3? Why get the same game for two systems?) '''$19.99''' 
7/02/2010: A game called "NDS Flaw" (what is that?), as well as a DSI zoom case.. '''$20.98'''

So that's a lot of purchases for the past couple of months, totalling to $138.93, and that's just a little bit of the list, I didn't go through the whole thing. And that's just at [[Best Buy]] - you've talked about spending quite a bit at [[Gamestop]] too, not just the $300 for the new PS3 (which brings the total to $438.93, not counting your other Gamestop purchases, which I don't have accurate figures for), but also on other things besides that. I just thought it would be helpful if I pointed these dollar amounts out plainly, because when you see them like this it becomes harder to fool yourself into thinking you've begun to work on your gaming addiction. I know it probably makes it all feel kind of silly when you look at the plain facts like this, but trust me, once you make the decision to kick the habit and actually try to get over your game addiction, this will all just seem so funny in hindsight. I know it's all at your own pace and that no one can make your life better but yourself, but I do really hope you consider turning yourself around and beginning to combat your game addiction. Just think what you could have done with that $450+ if you hadn't dropped it on games! But like I say, I have faith in your strength and will, Chris!!

Anyway, in other news... ugh, I got into contact with Lars. He's such an asshole. I am just so mad about it, I don't even feel like talking about him right now... ugh. Maybe we can talk about him in our next IM chat. Speaking of, will you be available tomorrow night at 9pm? We can talk then. I can vent to you about what Lars did to me, if you don't mind listening to my sad story... :( but I know you're such a good listener, and even better at cheering me up. ;) ;)

Well, let me know so that we can confirm that we are on for tomorrow night. Hope to talk to you then!!

XO XO XO XO XO XO

Jackie}}

{{EmailReply|1=September 23, 2010 - 7:56pm

I've mostly told Samantha the truth when we talked, but I did [[lie]] some, but I had my good reasons, between sparing her feelings, making the conversation less embarrassing for me, etc. Recently, she asked me to list some lies I've told her in the past, which I recollected and did inform her of. And in that same e-mail, I've told her about how she raises her voice to me when she doesn't have to. I listen to her and her sound advice; she thought I was blowing her off when she talked less aggressively in the past, when I did not; I hang and have hung onto every word she says to me. Every detail is saved in my memory and subconscious. Currently, it is NOT that I don't want to talk to her; I e-mail daily on the current events, but I felt with how she was feeling after my comment on the raised voice, we needed a bit of time apart. I will be back on the phone with her very soon after emotions have simmered down. It makes me feel sad that I've made her feel like this, but I was only doing what she asked me to do; tell the truth.

Damn those trolls; I'll have to change the password on my RewardZone account now. For your information... A) the recent 43.98 purchase was actually a spot of Wheeling and Dealing I did; I actually spent less to make a profit. [[Wikipedia:Toys "R" Us|Toys 'R' Us]] had [[Wikipedia:Borderlands (video game)|Borderlands]] for PS3 for a lower price than the current $39.99 price at Best Buy; I paid 20.98 for it at T.R.U. After that, I took the game to Best Buy, told them I received it as a gift and got the store credit of 41.??, THEN I got what I really wanted, [[Wikipedia:Resident Evil 5|Resident Evil 5]] G.E. and a 10 dollar PSN Card, but even the two items would still leave me with some credit, so I added [[Wikipedia:Silent Hill (film)|the Silent Hill movie]], and paid the 3 dollar difference in cash. R.E.5.G.E. was on sale for 10 less than normal this week for 29.99, it was now PSMove Compatible, I wanted a good shooter for the Move, and I had heard a LOT of good things about the game long before as well. I just wanted the PSP version of ModNation as well, after enjoying the PS3 version as well. The "NDS Flaw" item was a Nintendo DSi game titled "[[Wikipedia:System Flaw|System Flaw]]". I got it the same day I got the Zoom Case.

I agree with you on the addiction issue.

Yes, I will be free tomorrow night at 9:00; I'm looking forward just talking with you again, and I will be most happy to listen to your story and make you feel better. :)

New topics: my other thoughts for Troll Awareness and Cyber-Bully Self-Protection. You can quote me on the following paragraphs for the article.

There are people around the world who for their own individual reasons seek cruel laughs, fun or comfort in making fun at [[Monthly Tugboat|other people's expenses]], all celebrities included. I, Christian Weston Chandler, of [[Ruckersville]], [[Virginia]], [[United States of America]], have fallen victim of these cads, these scoundrels, these scumbags of the earth's soil. I am original creator of the [[Electric-Hedgehog Pokémon|Electric-Hedgehog Pok'emon]], [[Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]], as well as their hometown of [[Cwcville]], Virginia, United States of America. True, they were [[Ripped off|inspired]] by [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] and [[Pokémon|Pok'emon]], but they were still considerably original, even positively [[Parody|parodied]]. I had a self-hand-drawn comic book series of them, with myself as a self-proclaimed "Intrusive Director", similar to [[Wikipedia:Shinichi Watanabe|Shinichi Watanabe]] of the anime "[[Excel Saga]]". As the years passed in the story creation, I later discovered that I was being bad-mouthed behind my back in November of [[2007]] by individuals who hide behind the "[[Barbara|Mother's Skirt]]" of the Internet, who are referred to as Trolls, or Cyber-Bullies. Their groups and icons include that of "[[4chan|4-Chan]]", the "[[Pedofork|Pedobear]]", the "Epic Smile", "Chargin' Muh Lazur"; the list goes on. They all think they are of a high and mighty rank above EVERYBODY around the world, including and especially every individual who they make dark mockeries of. These Trolls not only put in their own twisted, evil thoughts on the innocent people they pick on, but from EVERYTHING the innocents put on the internet from Typed, Quoted Text; drawings and photographs, YouTube Videos, etc, etc, etc. And even worse, the Trolls DECEIVE and BLACKMAIL us innocents by establishing [[List of Chris's sweethearts|Online Relationships]], making us open up emotionally to them to confide our private Truths, Photographs, Videos for Footage. They deceived [[Christian Weston Chandler...Yep, I'm on TV :)|my "CWC On TV" DVD]] from me by pretending to be an old childhood girl friend of mine. And other times, they deceived and blackmailed me to give them naked [[Nudes|photographs]] and [[For Julie's Eyes Only|videos]] I create of myself. And then they throw Horrendous Mislabels of [[Homos|HOMOSEXUALITY]] upon us by [[:Image:Cwcbraorig.JPG|PHOTOSHOPPING]] the photographs and altering the videos. They Blackmailed me by hacking into my own personal Internet Accounts, such as [[MySpace]] and [[Facebook]], but specifically my [[Chris humps his PS3|PlayStation Network Account]]. They also have gotten into my bank and credit card accounts. They can just as easily get into YOUR accounts of Monetary Value, INCLUDING your XBox Live Account, and Possibly Wii and DSi Ware too. Their hacking prowess is unknowingly powerful, depending on WHO is in their organization for their crass "LULZ," which I personally define as "[[Laughs Under Lucricities|Laughs Under Lucrativeness]]".

I tell every person who has been, as well as not yet but will be, Tormented and Found by a Troll/Cyber-Bully. YOU ALL can Protect Yourselves by simply Practicing the Safety Advice from me here, as well as other Cyber-Bully Prevention organizations found on the internet AND in real life; Google these places. Simply, though, you can Protect Yourselves by simply,
A) NEVER giving out your Personal, Private Information to Anyone or Anywhere suspicious. Especially those who would even be your "Friends" Online. If you can't and won't tell a Close Relative, like your Grandmother, DO NOT Tell [[Jackie|ANYONE]]. This includes your PASSWORDS for EVERYTHING. And for ALL of you Gamers, your E-Mail Addresses you have Linked to your Console Accounts. 
B) Have the Latest, Highly-Recommended and Fully Upgrade Anti-Virus/Anti-SpyWare Software installed on your Computers and Laptops. If your Wi-Fi and Ethernet Cables are at all linked to your PC, the Trolls can access EVERYTHING you have within Wi-Fi and Ethernet Distance, INCLUDING your gaming consoles and other devices. And when you're not using the Wi-Fi, unplug your Wireless Router, but NOT the Modem. If you unplug your Modem, you'll have troubles with Duplicate IP Addresses, and you'll need to restart your computer. Also, your consoles may have troubles getting online when you have Duplicate IP Addresses. 
C) DO NOT put your Private Photos and Videos on the internet, this includes WITHOUT A DOUBT Naked Photographs and Videos of yourself and all those around you. And also do not put up anything else that will Incriminate you, [[Tour of Chris's House|your household]], and everything else you care about. 
D) Keep your Eyes Open even in REAL LIFE; the Trolls will follow you; take ANY Photographs and Videos of you and all around you without your Knowledge, Consent, Approval or Permission. 
E) A Good Reputation is a Happy Reputation, so do what you can to make and keep a Good Reputation as an All-Around Good Person. Be [[Mailbag|Generous]], Be [[Michael Snyder|Kind]], Be [[Mary Lee Walsh|Courteous]], Be [[JERKS|Caring]] and [[Aspergers|Understanding]], Be a [[Death threats|Positive Yourself]].

And if you Suspect ANYONE around you who is likely to be a Troll or Cyber-Bully, Report them to the [[Jerkops|Police]] or [[Barack Obama|High Authority]], including your own and Their Family(ies). Be Cautious of the Signs. 
-They have too many secrets, or at like they are hiding a lot of things. 
-They constantly take photos and videos of ANY Person, even when that person is doing [[:Image:WantWoman.jpg|NOTHING]] at all. 
-They are constantly on their Computers. 
-Their Bookmarks and History include Trolling or Cyber-Bully Forums, Websites and whatnot. 
-They have a HIGH Knowledge of Hacking into Computers and they use their Knowledge for Evil or Trolling Purposes. 
-They have a number of [[Carlos Chantor|Online Aliases]]. 
-They talk a LOT of the Internet and speak ill of, or appear to be FAKING speaking nice of, [[Chris|Anyone]]. 
-If you get any Hate Messages that make you feel irritated or angry, DO NOT RESPOND. Trolls also look for the thrill of [[CWC is Angry|Anger]] or [[CWC is Sad|Sadness]] from their victims.

I also put forward a truthful FlipNote from user, "8-BIT" ("DizzyDrill"),
http://flipnote.hatena.com/556109A0A0F27939@DSi/movie/F27939_09D08B2023EB4_016?in=user. 
He has the right idea of what Trolls/Cyber-Bullies think in their desire to get a rise out of you. If you have a DSi, you can download this FlipNote for yourself through the FREE "FlipNote Studio" Program from the DSiWare Store.

If you are a Victim of Trolling/Cyber-Bullying, and you KNOW who the person is and where they are in Real Life, there is a good chance you'll be able to [[Chris and the Law|legally sue them]]. Talk to a legal [[Harvey Birdman|attorney]] for more information and details on how.

And if you ARE a Troll or Cyber-Bully, and YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE, You'd be doing yourself a favor GIVING UP your ways, because YOU WILL BE FOUND AND PUNISHED.

Like the TrollBusters, Cal and Dee Dee, of Cwcville, VA who always catch the Troll in the Act, YOU can do your part in Stopping the Trolling and Cyber-Bullying.

How did you like that speech I've put together; I'd like your honest feedback?

With that, I'll wrap this up for now, and I will talk to you tomorrow night on the AIM at 9:00. :)

Stay Safe and Sweet, 
XOXOXOXOXOXO <3<3<3<3<3<3<3 
Christian.}}

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Talk:Saga

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Kaltenbrunner: /* Tomgirl Saga vs Calling Out Saga */

Add the sagas that we have from the [[List of Videos]] page and describe the overarching storylines in each. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 14:09, 19 October 2009 (CEST)
*The current saga should be called the "Revalation" saga. --[[User:14recinez|14recinez]] 15:30, 14 September 2013 (EST)
* Add information involving the Ebay stuff to the Facebook Saga section. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
* Add the 2014 sagas to the Sagas timeline. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
==Changes==
So basically what I tried to do so far is sum up every saga in 3 images. Is this at all helpful? I can upload colour versions instead if we prefer, but I thought this looked kind of good. I can also put all of them together to make a MEGASAGA sort of image that we can add to as more sagas become apparent. What do we want? Or delete them if you think they are gay. If they are not gay, then I will finish the rest tomorrow. ALSO: I can make a vertically oriented timeline (like from a history book) showing how they progress and overlap. Or horizontally, whatever we want really. Just tell me. For now, I need to sleep. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:25, 24 October 2009 (CEST)

* I actually really like these. [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 03:38, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
:*I like them. Though I think that like, the subject of the saga should be in the center. Like, the Miyamoto saga, Reggie is in the middle when it really should be Miyamoto. If I may recommend one for Liquid, if there was a way to make it look like they're staring down each other, that'd be cool. Otherwise, nice work, I like the general idea. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:47, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
::*Your wish is my command. It is done. I think I got what you wanted for the Liquid saga too... Now what exactly? I can get started on a timeline. I guess I will work on making each subsection more introductory in the text too... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 20:49, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
::*So I have added some detail to give a bit more advanced insight on the sagas for this page. I hope it is helpful. Are there any other sagas that should be here? I assume not. What do we need to add to make this... complete... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:23, 25 October 2009 (CEST)

==Timeline==
[[Image:Timeline.png|right]]
So the timeline you see running here is one I made for this article. Problem, When I run it down the right side of the article it looks funny. At least I think it does. Try it. Should we put it there... or what? I will just work on the actual text of this article until we decide what to do about the imagery. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:33, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
*I haven't heard any opinions on this and they claimed to like it in IRC so I have it running down the right. Revert it if you like. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:41, 25 October 2009 (CET)
:*I like it a lot too. Having it up and down isn't orthodox but it's well suited for the media. Very nice job. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)
*I think it looks great, but I think the information is a bit wrong... the Megan Saga went on through the beginning of 2008 and into the ED and Adam Stackhouse affairs. Hell, there wouldn't be a Stackhouse Saga without Megan. Otherwise, it looks good.
----[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 06:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

==Gregg Mays saga==
Not sure if we should consider it part of Clyde Cash saga but we should consider a Gregg Mays saga to include all this Gregg Mays stuff. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)

==Jack Thaddeus Saga, anyone?==
Or does anyone think it's too early? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 03:42, 2 January 2010 (CET)
* I was about to suggest the same thing. With the [[Kill de Jack|recent]] [[To Clyde and Jack|videos]] aimed at him, the [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call|three]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 2|phone]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 3|calls]] and the CWCipedia ad shenanigans, not to mention [[It's UGH!|previous]] [[Chris humps his PS3|antics]], there seems to be enough material to warrant a new saga. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 05:17, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
** Don't forget about Asperchu in the future. Seeing how dedicated Alec is with it so far (and Jack just started advertising his wiki in CWCipedia), a Saga for that is inevitable! --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 05:32, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
*** And I think it has begun! --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 02:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
**** {{Asperchu}} [[Asperchu]] Saga. You like? --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 02:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
***** Very nice! Now how about Jack, anyone? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 02:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
***** Awesome job on the icon! --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 02:09, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
===Actually...===
Looking at recent edits, someone was adding a "Homosexual ad saga" to this page but it was reverted. While not a proper saga, I'd say it's a sort of mini saga and it's part of the Chris narrative, as it leads into Asperchu saga. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:49, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not sure I'd call the homosexual ads a saga by itself, but part of a CWCipedia saga? I'm certainly not part of the inner circle, but I imagine more hi-jinks involving the CWCipedia are in store. [[User:Chris fangs|Chris fangs]] 21:54, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
*I reverted it. It wasn't a proper saga, no. Even if it could be considered one, the information wasn't presented well enough. I first reverted the changes made to the timeline PNG[http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:Timeline.png], which also wasn't up to par. There could be a lead-in to the Asperchu Saga, sure, but I would vote no on calling it a saga. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
*I re-reverted because you're a huge faggot have a nice day [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]

*Actually, I changed my mind. If someone could make a better, more convincing presentation of it, go ahead. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:*I agree that the presentation on the timeline sucks, and the name "Homosexual ad saga" does as well. I think Chris fangs is onto something about it being called "CWCipedia saga" since in a way, the Mailbag is a way of trolling Chris and CWCipedia in general sorta inadvertently trolls Chris. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:20, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
::*Well, it seems I've angered someone. Not my intentions, to be sure. Anyway, CWCipedia Saga has a nice ring to it and it's relevant, since the Mailbag is certainly a repository of ongoing trolling. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:28, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
::*Champthom, I'll leave it to you to revert the timeline image/Saga page or not. I don't wish to get into a revert war over Chris Chan. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:34, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:::*I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that you're right but so is Nitrocore. The concept of a saga invoking CWCipedia, perhaps call it CWCipedia saga, is good or maybe Jack Thaddeus saga (though I'm aiming at the former) but you are correct in that the write up and the name at the time did kinda suck, and we still need to work on the timeline. For starters, we need to get in touch with the original creator of the timeline or maybe start from scratch. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:58, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
* Ha i win sucker, I actually like "Cwc saga" as well i was just adding stuff(unlike you) if you can combine it and possibly make it better with external links then I'm not bothered [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]
::::*I went with the CWCipedia idea. It's a rough draft, but you get the idea. Nitro, if there is a next time, try not to act like a child. Also, sign your discussion edits with the timestamp. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 00:37, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

==The CWCki Saga, anyone?==

I was going to start this, but decided otherwise unless objects to it, but what we got here is the start of a third saga - CWCki Saga. Chris knows about the CWCki and now he wants to take control of it. You think we should start gathering information on this?--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:19, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*Damn. It's barely 24 hrs in and we are already talking about a saga! I think it is a tad too early to talk about a saga. Outside of "The WallFlower Incident", we got mostly nothing. Let's wait a little to see where it will goes. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:*I agree. Luckily, we'll probably find out two days from now, when his ultimatum gets ignored to death. If nothing comes of it, then nothing comes of it. If he spazzes out and does something really stupid, like threatening legal action or starting an epic edit war, then yeah. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 05:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

==Vanessa Saga==

My old pet project, probably not long or significant enough, but some pretty good videos and logs came from that --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 07:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
*Vanessa saga is one of the unsung tales of the overarching CWC saga and it's sorry that it isn't currently reflected here. However, perhaps now in retrospect it seems more to be part of Ivy saga, though Vanessa saga had dynamic elements and whatnot. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

== more saga sum up images ==

we need a saga image for asperchu (not tito yet) and the cwikipedia saga--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 02:19, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Heres a quick one i made for the game place, just to throw out the idea, can't use it since it doesn't match the others
[[image:Picture_4.png]]

== Tito saga ==

'''In December 2009, Chris released a page from Sonichu 10, which revealed a girl named [[Lovely Weather]]. Many trolls were confused as to why Chris would create a fictional love interest when previous issues used real life girls. The confusion continued when Chris revealed he had a gal-pal during some of his Mailbags.'''

Is it just me or does this seem to suggest that "Lovely Weather" is connected to [[The Wallflower]]? If so, this text is incorrect as Chris didn't meet Wallflower until January at the latest. Srsly guys. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:50, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
* Okay, I'll admit - I wrote that bit when it seemed like there was a connection between Weather and Wallflower. I'll alter it so it won't seem that way.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 13:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

==IRL Saga?==

It might be too early for this, but if he keeps up these public creeper antics, methinks an "IRL Saga" would be appropriate. --[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 16:12, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
* I always thought it would be better to call everything that's happened since he "left" the Internet the "CWC Exile Saga". But, still, IRL Saga's just as good.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 16:24, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
**How about 'Reality Saga'? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:48, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
***If we're going to do that, we might as well include the Love Quest as a saga, since this sounds pretty much like a repeat of those events. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 17:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
**** I understand the reasoning behind that, though a good chunk of the Love Quest happened online within specific sagas. Personally, the only issue I would see with such a saga (CWC Exile is a great title) is that it overlaps with The GAMe PLACe and the last bit of Surfshack Tito.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 01:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
***** I think, in a technical level, we're between sagas. We just simply have to wait and see what damn fool thing he does next. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 02:06, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== Flipnote Hatena saga ==

Does it count as one yet? He's slowly cracking at the seams, and it could get worse. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 20:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
*It looks like it might form a saga as he goes along and breaks more Flipnote Waptena rules, so it's plausible. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 21:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
**Of course he's banned from uploading anything now. I think it was a bit short to count as a saga. A bit uneventful too, though that's just my thoughts on it. If everyone else thinks it could be considered it's own saga... Go for it.--[[User:Yoyoddd|Yoyoddd]] 10:07, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
***I look at this a bit like the Tito saga; very little actually was done to Chris, but it was his response to what happened that made it a saga. We have to wait and see how he reacts to the ban to see whether it's worthy or not. That's just my two cents though. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 10:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
****Maybe we should put "interim activities" as a separate category; nothing that fits the criteria for saga but still somewhat noteworthy. Chris being "off the internet" and on flipnote for a month could merit that. That way we could still fill out the periods between major sagas. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 14:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
*****Even if it doesn't count as a full-fledged "Saga" it was a pretty crazy two weeks. I'm not sure if he'll return to youtube as a result of his banning, but I'm sure he'll cap off the whole thing with an enraged complaint ''somewhere''.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 15:41, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

==PS3 Saga?==

Before somebody already points it out, I know that the few destruction videos he put up doesn't count as a saga. I'm wondering if we should make a saga for the activities that lead to it's destruction. There's a lot of juicy info I'd like to catalog, but I don't know if it's officially over yet or not (And i also don't want to disrupt any trolling plans that may still be in motion). --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 15:04, 17 September 2010 (PDT)

==Missing Sagas==
Why aren't the sagas caused by [[Vanessa_Saga|Joshua Martinez]] included on the saga list?
*1) please sign your posts (it's four ~ in a row) 2) the stuff from Joshua Martinez is really part of Ivy saga. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

==On Sagas==
This isn't picking on anything that's going on here, but I was thinking and I think the term "saga" gets abused - not so much on here, mind you, but elsewhere but I think it sometimes spills over to the CWCki.

What is a saga? Like the article says, it's an overarching story in the life and times of Chris. For instance, let's take Miyamoto saga, which, also as the article says, what really started the whole "saga" thing. You have Chris and "Miyamoto" talking to each other over several weeks, and there's conflict between the two, then there's Reggie who gets involved, and then there's all the videos inbetween. If you watch a video from the saga without the context the saga arch provides, you're missing out on a lot. They're all intertwined, the content that is, and that's what the saga theme is all about, taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.

So what does this mean? You calling Chris is not "You calling Chris saga." Chris dressing up as a woman is not "Tomgirl saga." Seeing Chris at the mall is not "Chris at the mall saga." Chris does stuff, it doesn't need to fit in part of a narrative. It's sorta a chapter in the overarching saga that is Chris's life, but not a saga in itself. Secondly, I don't think sagas are really made. I think people expect to troll Chris and want some place on this page, wanting their own "Gigantic Attention Whore saga." Pretty much every saga wasn't intended to be a saga, it's not like they planned this all out, it's just going with the flow and it happens to have narrative to it.

I had more but I forgot what else I was going to say. But hopefully this will make sense and serve as a guide to what is a saga and what isn't, so much as how it should be included on the page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

*Actually, while we're talking about sagas, I'd like to ask for a bit of clarification on how saga related articles are named. Recent sagas for instance are just documented in the article on the appropriate person. The article on the Ivy Saga is called [[Ivy]] and the article on the Liquid Saga is called [[Liquid Chris]]. But then there are articles which are literally called [[Miyamoto Saga]] or [[Vanessa Saga]], which are full of emails just dumped there incomprehensibly. And this is in spite of there actually being articles for [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] and [[Vanessa Hudgens]]. Don't get me wrong, I realize the need to keep the crap ton of emails separate from the main articles, but the naming convention is just odd. I'm not quite sure, but I'm willing to bet it's Clyde's fault. What is the official policy on naming saga articles? Should they all be named as "X" or as "X Saga"? And while we're on it, some sagas have a weird little template documenting all things related to them. Two I can name are [[:Template:BlancaSaga]] and [[:Template:MeganSaga]]. I don't think they're bad. They could use a little cleanup, but I do have a problem with the fact that some sagas have them and others don't. They could serve as a great way to sum up everything and point users in the direction of content relevant to each saga, but as it is right now, there's no consistency in which sagas have them. What should we do? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:29, 22 June 2011 (PDT)
:*Good points. In regards to the e-mails, I guess people consider the bulk of the saga the e-mails or IM chats behind them, but perhaps we could rename them to be "Miyamoto Saga e-mails" or "Vanessa Saga chats"? It's probably Clyde's fault, at least for the Miyamoto e-mails. As for the templates, they probably could use cleaning up and the reason why some do and some don't is because people haven't gotten around to doing them for other templates (which can be something you can work on, if you so please). Definitely, make templates for each saga, that'd be a great way to present information. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:46, 23 June 2011 (PDT)
::*Well if you think that's something for me to work on then I suppose I could have a go at it. It'd make a change from all the sonichu shit that I've been doing recently. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:41, 24 June 2011 (PDT)

== Individual Saga pages ==

I didn't know where to put this suggestion, so I'm putting it here. I was thinking we can give each Saga its own page. The pages would go into more detail about the saga, a summary of the events, and a listing of videos, emails, etc. in order by date. This serves to make a description about all events in the Saga from beginning to end, as there is none on the CWCki. The closest there is to it is the timeline with all of the years and months, but often times there are events irrelevant to the Saga and events in other Sagas happening. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 16:47, 2 January 2012 (PST)
* EDIT: I noticed there are articles called "Vanessa Saga" and more, but those aren't the type of formats I'm talking about. Those pages are only content dumps, but what I'm talking about is much more organized.
* I made a [[Tomgirl Saga]] page. If there's a problem with it, or if the page is a bad idea, speak now or I'll write pages for the other sagas. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 09:56, 3 January 2012 (PST)
*I still don't think that the whole Tomgirl thing is actually a saga, but I'll let other people debate that as that's mostly my opinion. The thing is, the articles about respective sagas tend to be in the page about the people involved. Like, most of the stuff with the Ivy saga is in the [[Ivy]] page, and the stuff about Liquid is on the [[Liquid Chris]] page. I see what you want to do and it does make sense but I think it might be redundant unless we totally rework these biographical articles so we're not saying the same stuff on two different pages.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:38, 4 January 2012 (PST)
**I think that the question of whether or not every Saga deserves its own individual page should be decided on a case by case basis rather then collectively. I think that starting the article on the Tomgirl Saga was a good idea, but having articles such "Jackie Saga", "Blanca Saga" or "Julie Saga" will be redundant in my opinion. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 06:44, 4 January 2012 (PST)
*** i agree, this page handles the simplified explanations and servers as a nice jumping off point. There is plenty blue here to get you started and if you need details about the saga then read the details linked in blue :)
* I was thinking this myself. Not every saga needs a seperate page but sagas which involved a lot of interaction in the form of Youtube videos between two parties would benefit from a seperate entry. I'm especially thinking of the Liquid Chris/CWCivil war ordeal. One page or a group of pages with the video interaction between the two in chronological order would be very useful. Maybe the Asperchu saga also? I was taking a break from Chris during that period and am still not too clear on the chronology of events. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 09:06, 15 July 2012 (PDT)

== Second Exile saga? ==

Chris hasn't done anything of note lately. His therapist may have banned him from the internet, and is most likely doing his service or playing video games. This may go on for a while, and might be considered a saga.--[[User:Germanicus|Germanicus]] 14:13, 8 October 2012 (PDT)

- I disagree. A time without content, I feel, shouldn't be considered a saga.--[[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] 13:01, 3 Feburary 2014

== Regarding the Catherine Saga ==

I'll put the section back once the Catherine drama goes further. Like Champthom said before that sagas are "taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.", I say wait and see until we can confirm it. Right now, it's still early to claim a new saga. Not to mention sagas are abused to death. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 14:33, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
*I'll just share some comments I made in the chat on the CWCki Forums on the matter. Like I've said, the saga really should just be a tool to provide a narrative to what happens with Chris in specific periods. We probably have what constitutes a saga now - Chris is active on Facebook, he apparently has a girlfriend, he's trying to make money off eBay and Kickstarter, he's claiming to be fully transgendered. I'm inclined to call this "Facebook saga" as I feel the characterization of this saga is Chris's interactions with people on Facebook. It's unusual as we mostly focus on people but I think in this case, it might make sense to focus on the medium and not so much the persons involved. I feel that "Catherine saga" at this point is too narrow - we just have a single video and we're not really sure she's the main impetus behind this revival. To me at least, it seems sorta a side note compared to bigger picture things like Chris finally trying to earn money through his art and embracing transgenderism.
:Ideally, we'd name this after the fact but it's helpful to have a label for us to refer to the events now. Most of the sagas were named after the fact or it was extremely obvious what to name it after - Chris was seeing Ivy, pretty much everything he did involved Ivy, so it made sense to call that the Ivy saga. But we're not really seeing the same thing here with Catherine. We're different from Wikipedia in the sense that you as the users have influence in determining what this is called. In a way, original research is acceptable here mostly because there's not really formal institutions that study autistic manchildren for a living. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 14:41, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
*I have added some details to the Catherine and Sonic sagas, but I think that you are right about combining the Facebook saga point. A good deal of information from Catherine is not really typical trolling, but further information on Chris's condition as a Tomgirl and his general repulsive self. It may be a good idea to combine the two into some sort of saga, rather than having two separate sections.[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 13:30, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

== Is there an "Ebay" Saga going on right now? ==

Considering all of the ebay stuff that has been going on for a while, like the situation with Mr. Smith, the Tribalism art, and such, should it be considered a saga? It's long enough to be considered as saga, but I'm wondering it there was enough content to validate it being called a saga. -Fredinno, Feb 3, 2014.

*I think it would be best to make a Facebook Saga, as Champthom suggested above. Maybe Catherine could also be mentioned here too? And his return to his art. [[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 21:13, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

*I disagree, but I'm beaten, 3 to 1. Oh well, I guess I'll combine those two together. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:01, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

== Tomgirl Saga vs Calling Out Saga ==

Should the Calling Out Saga be separated from the Tomgirl Saga? The two things, in my opinion, are very different from each other, and many people from the Cwcki Forums, including me, believe the two are different Sagas. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:14, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

*You are right, they are two different things, but I think the reason they have been put together is because it's part of Chris's Tomgirl phase. I don't really think Calling Out qualifies as a Saga in its own right, so, personally, I would argue against giving it its own section. I am assuming it was added to give a bit more volume to the Tomgirl Saga, but, now that we have more information on Chris's Tomgirl antics, we could replace Calling Out with something else.

*So, to link back to what we were talking about above, I guess maybe Catherine could go with Tomgirl - as Chris's first lesbian encounter. The eBay stuff could then go to a Facebook Saga because it marks a change in both Chris's personality, since he has become more withdrawn, and how he communicates, being far more paranoid and holding court only to a select few. Obviously, this withdrawal has also come about from Bob's death, and also why he is allegedly selling stuff on eBay because he claims to need the money more for him and Barb. So, here you can see a link between the change in Chris and ''why'' he has returned to making his artwork and selling stuff, but it also demonstrates a change in how trolling Chris has changed. Granted, he's still being trolled, but it's not as abrasive as it once was because it can only be done through eBay - again because Chris has cut off all contact.

*Anyway, if you see the links there that I'm thinking of, you'll understand why I want to merge the eBay Saga with Facebook, plus I don't really think enough happened for it to warrant a Saga in its own right, but I haven't seen the pages on the wiki to document it so I could be wrong on that point. Let me know how you see it and how you think Chris's recent shenanigans would be best documented. Once everyone has discussed it we will probably have a good idea of the most efficient way of categorizing his recent behavior into Sagas. Apologies for wall of text,[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 11:33, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Jackie E-mails

2015-02-06T10:50:18Z

Kaltenbrunner:

{{quote|<poem>Without [[Barbara Chandler|his mommy]]'s pride and kisses
Without [[United States of America|his country]]'s confidence
Without [[Bob Chandler|the dying man]]'s permission
Without no [[Chris and remorse|guilt]] or consequence
This [[Chris and anger|bloody-minded]] [[Christian Weston Chandler|son of a bitch]]
Has not a wound to mend
And all I can do is pray to [[Chris and religion|God]] he'll
Get one in the end</poem>|'''Crash Test Dummies''' get back to ''[[Chris]]''}}

The '''Jackie e-mails''' are a collection of e-mails between [[Christian Weston Chandler]] and an innocent woman named [[Jackie]], whom Chris met on [[The Hook Cafe|''The HooK'' Café]]. The e-mails span from 5 [[April 2010]] (around the time [[trolls]] discovered Chris's account at ''The HooK'' Café) to 5 [[August 2011]].

In the first two parts of the collection (until 21 April 2010) Chris goes plenty on about [[Pokémon]], trolls, his war with [[Alec Benson Leary]] and his [[rage]] over THOSE FAKING FAKERS WITH [[Aspergers Syndrome|ASPERGER'S]]. He also still thinks that ''The Lord of the Rings'' had owls in it. Chris claims to be still working on [[Sonichu]] but is seeking to post the comics on Lulu (ironically, a troll scheme was started like this), and setting up a date. The most telling part of this is the prelude to [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|Chris's return to the GAMe PLACe]]. As revealed in these letters, Chris wholly expected everyone inside the store to have forgotten about him and his antics as well as his banning only to learn that all has not been forgiven. As well, Jackie watched the video and became concerned over his antics. Jackie talks about what Chris did [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|on 12 April]]. By this time, however, Jackie is seeing the bigger picture about Chris, especially after she discovers the [[CWCki]], thanks to Chris.

At the end, however, it all goes downhill - Jackie has now learned that Chris doesn't even want to put in the minimum amount of work to even ''keep'' a [[sweetheart]] and, combined with what she learned about Chris's past e-girlfriends and a video he sent to her, Jackie still wants to try for some sort of relationship. However, in the end it's Chris, not Jackie, that ends the relationship - he feels that his lazy ass can't handle the rigors of being in a relationship and realizes that sending her to the CWCki was the stupidest thing ever. Jackie attempts to continue the relationship, providing that Chris becomes less evasive and more honest with her, but this is too much for Chris to manage. In the end, it's Jackie who fires the last shot - she calls him out on what he truly is. Chris falls back on his [[autism]] card and tells her to tell it to someone who'd care.

Which would be everyone except for him.

==The letters==
Jackie's e-mails are in light red; Chris is in light blue.

====Chris is cute?!====
{{quoteboxred|Jackie 
April 5, 2010 - 6:24pm 
What kind of video games do you play besides [[Guitar Hero]]? I don't have any current consoles but I love my old playstation. I play on my friend's [[wii]] a lot, though. I like drawing and stuff, too.

Anyway, you're kind of cute, hope to hear back from you~~ :)}}

====Chris wants to be played like a PS3====
{{quotebox|Chris 
April 5, 2010 - 11:14pm 
I've just read your profile and saw your pic; you are pretty. I guess I'm a suitable candidate for you; I have [[fat|strong]] arms. You have a lot of fun things I totally agree on that we can do together.

To answer your question, I also play [[LittleBiGPlanet]], God of War, [[Sonic the Hedgehog]]; I have a wide collection. You would just have fun playing my games (if that's your pleasure), and I think you'd have fun [[Chris humps his PS3|playing me too.]] LOL

I am a [[Pokémon|Pok'emon]] Fanatic also; grew up on it since Pok'emon Red, and I've played a LOT of the [[TCG]] when I was going to the League (I'll tell you more about that later on).

So, magzine editor, huh; which mag? :)

The online thing is cool, but you and I should meet and hang out together ASAP. How about I meet you at the bar you go to (which bar would that be?) this coming friday? Say 6:00 or 7:00 PM?

Please reply and let me know if it is good for you.

Looking forward to your reply, 
Christian.}}

{{quoteboxred|Jackie 
April 6, 2010 - 2:57pm 
Hey, you wrote back! I literally have to run out the door right now but just wanted to let you know I'll write more later tonight. :)

Jackie}}

====STDs: the gift that keeps on giving====
{{quotebox|Chris 
April 6, 2010 - 5:38pm 
Jackie, huh? That's a fun name; it goes with your personality well (at least from what I've read so far). It says there that you are a Unitarian; it's cool. I'm a [[Chris and religion|Methodist]].

I wanted to check on this, but considering you've had a lot of [[sex]], have you have yourself checked recently for any STDs? [[Lie|I have to be careful these days]].

We can also talk over the phone if you want; let me know if you want to exchange numbers; if you don't, it's cool.

Waitin' for your next message. 
Christian.}}

{{quoteboxred|Jackie 
April 6, 2010 - 6:41pm 
Hey! Yeah, my name is Jacklyn, but everyone calls me Jackie. So a little more about me: I've never played Little Big Planet, isn't it just like a simple platformer? I was bigger into digimon than pokemon when I was a kid, but I loved red and blue. I bet you would be fun to play, though :)

To answer your question, I haven't really had a lot of sex partners or anything, didn't mean to give that impression - I just love sex when I am with someone. I've only been with six guys in my life. I haven't been tested in a while (never been in a situation where I thought I needed to, btw, but I have just to be careful), I'm seeing my gyno next week. Is testing something you do often? How many partners have you had, if I may ask?

This Friday is too short a notice for me, sorry, I'm swamped with projects this weekend. The school week is pretty much out for me too, I go to school in Staunton, but I come home every weekend. How about we plan on next Friday afternoon, though? In the meantime, we can email and learn more about each other?}}

====From porno to Pokémon====
{{quotebox|Chris 
April 6, 2010 - 8:46pm 
That's cool; I can do Friday of next week. As long as I get to meet you and hang and all that.

To answer your question, I am a [[Virgin with rage|virgin]]; I have never had sexual intercourse, but I have watched a number of XXX flicks, and I have a good number of ideas of what to do, and I am not a total nervous flake. [[Chris and Ego|I would not constantly ask, "Is this good for you"]] or "Am I doing it right?" I feel very confident in my abilities and knowledge. I have been checked a few months ago, and [[Honesty|I am clean of any STDs]].

LittleBiGPlanet is kind of a platformer, but it is Customizable; you can create your OWN Levels, Publish them onto the Online LBP Server, and even Play Other People's Published Levels. Plus, the Sackperson is Customizable too; you can even make it look like a Charizard, Totodile, Goldeen, or any other person/animal/plant you want; Male or Female. I have created an Aqua Teen Hunger Force remake of the first two levels of Burgertime (in the Same Level). And more fun, I've created a fun, cute level that simulates a Fun Date, titled "A First Fun Date"; Best Enjoyed with a Couple. Maybe U + Me. ;)

I've been keeping up with Pok'emon up to Diamond/Pearl, and I have all Max Evolved Level 100 Pok'emon in my Diamond card. Including a Blaziken that I originally got in my Ruby, then traded to my Emerald, then moved it to my Diamond, that is Level 100, has earned over 20 Ribbons, and his name is Inuyasha.

Let me give you my e-mail address, [[Chris-Chan Sonichu|ChrisChanSonichu]]@aol.com; it is also my for AIM (and it can communicate with most other IMs). When you send me your first e-mail, please put in the subject, "Hey, It's Jackie" or something like that.

Which college are you going to, and what is your current major?

I look forward to the e-mail. XOXO 
Christian.}}

====What is job?====
{{quotebox|Chris 
April 7, 2010 - 7:38am 
My bad; I've just double-checked your profile; you've already graduated from college. So please disregard that last question. But I have to ask, you said you were going to school; is your editorial [[job]] there; please elaborate on that? And what did you graduate from college with?

Have a safe day. 
XOXOXO 
Christian.}}

{{quoteboxred|Jackie 
April 7, 2010 - 3:07pm 
Hey! Don't have a whole lot of time right now, but to answer your question: I actually only work part time as the editor of an in-school paper here. I did graduate from school with a degree in Sociology, but I only got that mostly because I didn't know what I wanted to do and figured I should get some kind of degree (isn't that what we all do, though :). So now I'm going back for my second degree, this time in journalism (hence the editing job, it's an internship for credit as well as a paycheck). Hey, I'll write more later tonight, gotta get back to class.

Jackie}}

====Chris hates authority====
{{quotebox|Chris 
April 7, 2010 - 6:06pm 
Very cool; now we have this communication link between us. Let me know if you want to start up an IM session later; I'll check back at about 8 or 9.

It's soo funny, because that's what happened to me at [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]]. I originally had no clue what to major in at first; I felt fried in the head that day nearly a decade ago when I was starting up there. I picked a major in something of Marketing; it wasn't doing me all that justice, so upon my father's suggestion, I switched to [[CADD|Computer Aided Drafting and Design]]. I did better in passing there, yet I feel unsure of going into an Architecture job, but at least I have Computer Expertise and Experience under my wing (as well as the Degree and Certificate). At least I made my family happy, and made a major accomplishment of a College Degree.

Although, PVCC wasn't really the best place to be; I had fewer friends than I did back at [[Manchester High School|Manchester High]], plus the "Dean of Student Services", [[Mary Lee Walsh]], did not like me that much. Long Story Short, I started my Sweetheart Search back in August of '03 (choice method of attraction way back then was a [[attraction sign|sign]] next to me); she did not approve of it (made an impression that she was against [[Love Quest|True Love]] Searches); there was a major disagreement between us; I was kicked out of PVCC for a year with having to see a psychiatrist and take anger management; finished my major later; and to this day, she still hates me. In a bit of spite against her past attacks against my noble search, I portrayed her as a Witch Villain in my comic book series who caused chaos of destroying all True Love in my city of Cwcville, VA and such. About a year ago, I drew her an Apology Drawing and put it in a nice frame, hoping we could put the past unpleasantness behind us and make peace. A couple of days later after delivery of the drawing to her secretary, she sends me a Trespassing Notice; some "Thank You"...

Also, I stopped the sign usage like back in '04, when I realized that it only made me look retarded, of which I was and am not. The only local college I can even hang around at these days is the [[University of Virginia|UVA]].

{{anchor|Fiddlesticks}}
Speaking of which, I used to go to the ONE Pok'emon TCG League in Charlottesville at [[The GAMe PLACe|The (Game & Hobby) Place]] (Fridays from 5 - 7 PM). After being forced NOT to hook up my Wii to their TV (a few children missed out on the distribution of a Magmortar, Electivre and Surfing Pikachu that night), the "Manager", [[Michael Snyder]] forced me not to. Obviously I was angry at him (He had hated my guts for a long while as well). I later wrote an angry note of "Michael loves the [[Lie|Fiddlesticks]] out of Mary Lee Walsh"; he took it as an offense, and banned me from "his" property. This happened June of '08. In April of '09, I went in, hoping all was forgotten, looking to see if they had some Eye of Judgment cards in stock and how much; a cashier recognized me and he was like, "Did Mike say you could come back here?" I felt disturbed, so without causing trouble, I left peacefully. I'm thinkin' of trying again later this week and see what happens. I'm feelin' more assertive, so if I am asked that again, I will ask if Michael is still the "Manager", and see if the staff is telling the truth then.

But I digress about that history.

I've read you draw your own comics too; I'd like to see what you have drawn. :) Also, what's your favorite kind of music, or favorite singer, musician or band? And please tell me more about yourself.

And please feel free to check out some of my comic pages on my website, the [[Cwcipedia]] (A.K.A. CWC's [[Sonichu]] Site), http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Sonichu_Comic_Collection. With that, I should warn you that I am internet famous (it's NOT glamorous); I have a bunch of Internet Bullies and [[Trolls]] trying to bother me. I've had to deal with them quite a bit, and I remain cautious. They have HATE PAGES against me on the web; please pay no attention to them. And you will be safe, as long as I do not talk about you at all online, or you don't talk about me online. For example, don't use my name when blogging or talking about me to anyone else on the internet; you may make up a nickname of me (F.Y.I., my name spelled backwards is off-limits; my bad on that).

I warn you, because I care about you, especially when we're just getting started on being friends and getting to each other. Oh the stories I can share with you.

Hey, we all have our own problems; all we can do is [[Mass Debate|Keep a Happy Thought]]. [[Rape|You're my Happy Thought]], Jackie.

I'll TTYL; Stay Safe, 
Christian.}}

====That's what she said====
{{quoteboxred|Jackie 
April 7, 2010 - 8:48pm 
Hey, Christian.

A little more about your questions - my favorite band is the Crash Test Dummies, hands down. Something about the main singer's deep voice (I forget his name) just makes their music sound so sensual and romantic, have you ever heard them? I bet you have a nice deep voice. :) Like I said, I'm going to school for journalism, print journalism specifically, I just love current events and the way our world works. I'm sure I'll be able to apply my sociology degree too when I get out of school and get a job. It'll still be about two years before I graduate, though.

Hey, I also saw you said you are autistic. I confess, I don't know much about autism, could you tell me more about what it's like? I knew a kid when I was in grade school that sometimes picked fights with other boys because he had autism, but I didn't know him well, but he got pretty violent. Or maybe he had aspergers, actually - they're the same thing, actually, right? I have a friend who is a therapist and works with children with developmental disorders, I think that's what she said.

Yeah, I had some friends that went into architecture, it's a long process, you have to get a masters before you can use it. But you have a CADD degree, that's cool, computer technology is so interesting because it's everywhere and someone who knows them can get almost any kind of job. What do you do for a living? I bet you're some kind of visual design specialist or consultant for an advertiser or something, right? Judging that because of the degree and how creative you are. That sounds awful about the experience you had with your dean; why does she still hate you? Are you still in contact with her even after graduating? As for the Game Place, you should totally go in and do that, I love when men are assertive and take charge! I think you should go in and tell them that it's only fair that you be allowed back in now after so much time, and if they make a fuss you should demand to speak to the manager so you can hash things out like adults. Let me know how that goes, I want to know!

I don't have any of my comics to send to you with me (not ones that are good enough to show anybody, anyway) but I'll draw some stuff and send it to you soon. I went to your page about your sonichu comic, but when I click on the chapter pages it just has a bunch of weird messages, and one has a picture of [[Clyde Cash|some guy from the Jersey Shore]] or something, did you send me to the wrong website? I'd still love to see some of your sonichu. But I'm surprised I haven't heard of it before, if you have trolls that must mean you have fans and are kind of popular too, right? What do they troll you about? But thank you so much for warning me and being upfront and honest with me, that's very sweet and I'm glad you care :) I don't think I'll be able to IM tonight, I think I'm kind of getting a little flu and want to get to bed early so I have plenty of rest. But I want to hear more of these stories, you sound like you've had a very interesting life.

I'll be thinking of you ~ ~

Jackie}}

====Chris got his degree for Cwcville====
{{quotebox|Chris 
April 7, 2010 - 11:07pm 
I thought Crash Test Dummies may be the band; I've read you went to a concert of theirs recently, but I wanted to make sure. I've heard a sample of them from Napster; they do sound good. You may also like Celtic Thunder; they're good too. I do have a [[Chris and health#Other deformities|deep bass voice]], although sometimes it does go up in pitch, but I'm working on that.

Please don't get me started with [[Aspergers]]; I have nothing against the people, it's just that I can not accept Aspergers and Autism being of the same classification. In my opinion, Aspergers is not as fierce as Autism; they have Better Social Skills, and they are Less likely to become low-functioning [[retards]]. However, in my experience with my Autism, I have in my childhood did not talk from 1.5 to 7 years of age (I first spoke at 6 weeks with "Monkey"; likely trying to say "Mommy"; I was with her while she was shopping that day). I did not pick many fights, although because they did not understand Autism and were scared, about 4th and 5th grade, the staff of [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School|Nathaniel Greene Elementary]] pinned me down on the floor and tape-recorded my screams, and they tried to put me in a mental institution. My [[mom]] and [[dad]] did not want that, so we move to Chesterfield County where I was continued to be mainstreamed at [[Chris's education#Providence Middle School|Providence Middle]] and Manchester High; I took a lot of Coping Skill courses as well. I feel I have overpowered some of my symptoms, such as social shyness, yet I still have some trouble maintaining eye-contact, unless I Have a Strong, Good emotional bond with the other person. You can learn more of the autistic traits on autism.org, or look it up on wikipedia.

Actually, I am not currently employed; I've been concentrating on my Sonichu books the past number of years, although I have worked at a [[Wendys]] then with [[Cutco]] cutlary for a while. I am looking to work at the new [[Wal-Mart]] here in [[Ruckersville]] that will be opening in a few months. The store is not currently selectable on the online application site, so I'm waiting for that. I've been on [[Monthly tugboat|Social Security]] in the meantime, and I am managing it [[Chris and money|well]].

I use what I've learned in CADD to help me better design my buildings and surroundings of Cwcville. I even have printed blueprints for a two-story Mall, WITH a Mayor's Office on the 2nd floor, overlooking the Front Entrance from the last CADD class I took at PVCC. It also has a Pok'emon Center Store, like they had in New York City before they turned it into a Nintendo Store.

I have not been in contact with Mary since that last trip to PVCC. As for reasons why she still has a thing against me, 1) There was that time in her office I overreacted and raised my voice against her (really scared her); no physical violence, but I did [[curse]] her with bad luck and misfortune. I removed it remotely when I drew that apology drawing about a year ago. 2) I portrayed her constantly as a Witch in my stories, which I later remedied by a) changing the character name to "Slaweel Ryam", which is a [[Chris and English|palindrome]] of "Mary Lee Walsh" (minus the "H"), and b) removing that character in Book 10 in the final confrontation between me and her. 3) Following the Character Representation, I gave her a Local Bad Rap at PVCC; a number of students who did not see eye-to-eye with her either.

And BTW, thanks for letting me know about that; I did send you the correct link, but the deal was you click [show] then click a page to view; the "Issue #" links were originally left blank, but a month ago, a troll and his crew managed to Hack into the impenetrable security of the site (even though it is Wikipedia-Editable-Style, and ONLY I, the SysOp and GoogleAds have Full Control of editing ANYTHING on the Cwcipedia); they just slandered it with grotesque image replacements, page edits and whatnot. The SysOp and I managed to clean up most of the mess, but some things are likely overlooked, so Thank You, Jackie for finding that error for me. I am reprogramming them to redirect to Page 1 of their respective books. I also have good HTML education and experiences. I created the Original "[[CWC's Sonichu Site!|CWC's Sonichu Site]]", as well as my past "CWC's Pok'eSite 2!" from raw HTML and PC Notepad scratch. Then I found Netscape Composer later on. I still have a lot of HTML knowledge in between my memory and my notes I took, plus I can look up the code when I need it in Google or something.

Yes I do have a lot of fans, and I appreciate their support, but due to the Troll stress I've been dealing with for the past 2.5 years (since November 2007 when I first found the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page of me they started). Since then, I have learned and continue to use better internet caution, most difficult passwords, and keeping my real life OFF of the internet, so the trolls won't know who to threaten in real life or come after me in further bully attacks. Between them all, a few trespassed into our yard, placed a wrongful sign there, and egged our house. Some have [[Prank calls|pranked and threatened phone-called]] us between our house phone and mine and my mother's cell phones (mine mostly; thank God for Caller ID). Plus I have been in and out of online relationships, that went nowhere in-person. Some "Women" were actually Men pretending to be women. And among the Real Women, they either [[Ivy|died]], [[Pandahalo|got raped]], or were coerced to their "[[Kacey|Dark Side]]". At least I do have a few Real Friends helping protect me and my work from the trolls.

That's another thing, in my life, I have had mostly [[gal pal|female friends]], as well as a few male friends/acquaintances. Yet I am still a straight man missing out on the action. One count was that up until I turned 21, I was naive and dumb on the subject of Dating (I did take sex-ed in high school, and I've started watching man-on-woman porn at 16). Within the past few years recently, I've developed the idea of [[Dating Education]] Classes; The School System SHOULD have taught that Alongside or Before Sexual Education. God knows it would have wised me up a lot sooner. There's an episode in my comics describing the basic idea of a Dating Education Class.

But I digress. I'm sorry you aren't feeling well. My advice; drink plenty of water and Orange Juice, and eat Chicken Noodle Soup. Plus the anti-flu/cold medication, such as Tylenol, or a Non-Aspirin substitute, such as what drug stores like CVS sell. And rest/relaxation of course. You can draw, play your Playstation, read or whatever you feel like within your reach.

Feel better soon, and stay safe, Sweetie. 
XOXOXO 
Christian.}}

====No pictures! It's a trap!!====
{{quoteboxred|Jackie 
April 8, 2010 - 5:48pm 
Hey, Chris! I'll write more later (I'm sure you see the pattern, but daytime is pretty busy for me these days), but can I ask you to write to me at [censored] from now on? Yahoo mail is screwing up for me lately.

Jackie}}

{{quotebox|Chris 
April 8, 2010 - 1:57pm 
I wanted to let you know that I really appreciate your sweetness and compassion you have shown me so far; please keep it up. Also, I wanted to ask, you live in Charlottesville and you commute to Staunton for your college and work; is that correct? Do you live by yourself, roommate or with your family? And tell me a bit about your family; mom, dad, sisters/brothers and such. I want to hear more stories of you too; my life is interesting, but I want to hear more about you too.

I'll be thinking fondly of you too, Sweetie, and I hope you are feeling better. 
Have a sweet day and stay safe, 
XOXOXO 
Christian.}}

{{quotebox|Chris 
April 8, 2010 - 2:03pm 
I've copied your pic and I am using it as the wallpaper on my [[PSP of Fail|PSP]] (it's rotated, so I have to rotate my PSP to see you upright). May I have some more pics of you, please? I'm thinking one that would be perfect is a photo of you relaxing on your bed reading your book, so then it can be like I'm chillin' with you. Also, I like your hair style and it's color; it looks natural. ;)}}

====Chris gets a lesson on Asperger's Syndrome====
{{quoteboxred|Jackie 
April 8, 2010 - 6:02pm 
Hey! I got a little break time to write in.

So that's weird what you say about autism and aspergers not being linked. Like I said I have that friend of mine who is a clinical psychologist and works with helping autistic children develop skills and socialize and stuff like that, and she says that aspergers is actually just another kind of autism. I went to that autism.org website and typed in aspergers, and the first page that came up had this on it: "Sometimes people assume everyone who has autism and is high-functioning has Asperger's syndrome. However, it appears that there are several forms of high-functioning autism, and Asperger's syndrome is one form." So aspergers really is a form of high-functioning autism then, right? My friend says that aspergers wasn't really classified until 1994 or something, so it's a really recent development in the field of psychology, maybe your information is just a little out of date? But you said your school teachers tape-recorded your screams? Why would they do that? Maybe they were just trying to help you? I know when I was about 6 I had to get a routine shot at the doctors office but I hated needles and was so scared, I screamed and fought and they needed three nurses to hold me in place... it was scary at the time, but I know they didn't mean me harm. (I respect those doctors and nurses for having to handle scared little kids like that, must be heartbreaking for them to know they can't comfort a scared kid like that.)

So you're not employed but you're applying at Wal-Mart? It's good that your looking for a job, but don't you want to make use of your CADD degree? I know I was annoyed when I first got out of school the first time because it was hard to find jobs with my sociology degree, that's part of why I went back, I wanted to augment it with something. You should go into design or advertising or something like that. I'm still a little confused on what Cwcville is, is it in your sonichu cartoon? I'm sorry, I still haven't read any of your sonichu :(... is it a comic that has a lot of architecture themes? How do you apply your CADD degree to it? If you haven't talked to your Dean, that's probably good, why do you think she is still mad at you though? I think most people are pretty forgiving. Hey, are you still planning on going to that Game Place though? I'm really excited to hear what happens there! I think it's SO sexy when a man stands up for himself... :')

I'm sorry to hear you've been unlucky in love... I know exactly what that's like. You said some of your girlfriends have been raped though!? That's horrible, I am SO sorry that you and they had to go through that. Can you tell me a little about that? Unless it's too private or painful, if it's none of my business then just ask me to leave it be, I know how traumatic such an experience can be (I have a friend who was raped in high school, her life was almost completely ruined, she still has trouble trusting people, it's so sad).

I don't know if dating education could work though, I don't know how that would work really, I don't think dating is something that can really be taught, it depends on whether two people have a connection I think (kind of like what you and I have :). Um, not to be rude or anything sweetie, but I would suggest that you don't talk about watching porn in our emails where we're still getting to know each other... I know you say you have trouble being shy and knowing what to say sometimes sweetie, just helping you out :)

Anyway, I gotta go now, but write me back! I can't wait to hear about what happens at the Game Place!

Jackie}}

====She likes Sonichu... >_<====
{{quoteboxred|Jackie 
April 8, 2010 - 6:54pm 
Hey sweetie! Got a little more free time than I thought I would have, so I went to look at some of your sonichu comic. I love it! It's so edgy, I like the page you just put up on the front page where sonichu is holding a rifle and threatening his enemy (who is that guy? or is it supposed to be a girl, he has a skirt?). So, what is this current plot arc or story or whatever?

Also, I was thinking about the Game Place thing a little more, I wanted to tell you that you should do it like a sit-in: if they pick a fight with you, just sit down on the ground peacefully until they agree to resolve it with you. Peaceful resistance, just like what Gandhi did, you know? But it sounds kind of like they might try to deny things or lie like they did before, I think you should record it, maybe? Because they are discriminating against you and all, I mean it would be a good idea to have a recording in case you need to prove that they lied later, so they can't do a "our word against yours" thing to you. Sorry, I'm just really excited to hear how that goes!

Oh, and some more of your questions: my family lives in Charlottesville but I stay in the dorm in Staunton with three roommates; I go to [censored], actually, but I almost always come home and stay in Charlottesville with my parents on the weekends. My parents have been married for 30 years (just had their anniversary in October), I have one younger sister who's still in high school, and an older brother who lives in Pennsylvania, he's a pediatrician, actually. And you're so sweet about my picture! I'll take some more and send them to you in a bit. I like that you can see me whereever you go now :)

Talk to you soon,

Jackie ~ ~ :')}}

====Chris's only friends: trolls and his parents====
{{quotebox|Chris 
April 8, 2010 - 11:09pm 
Hey, Sweetie. Thank you for letting me know about your new e-mail address. BTW, I've noticed in the "From" field of the e-mails, it says "Jacklyn [censored]"; please verify if [censored] is your last name. Also, that rifle-image you saw on the Cwcipedia, that is another Troll Problem of mine. See, this dude, Alec Benson Leary, who made up his own fanfiction of my Sonichu works, [[Asperchu]], has been trying to 1-up me for months now. He purchased the adspace on the Cwcipedia, and once in a while, he makes a damn attempt to grind my gears and steal my fans by putting up his badly drawn stuff in the adspace. [[Alec Benson Leary calls|I had talked with him before to not do that, and he still does it]], and I do not appreciate it. I'm a bit obsessive-compulsive, and after seeing his pages, and what he was doing in crappy parody of me and my characters, it pisses me off. Also, that guy on that page; that is a bad facsimile of me; I did [[Tito Got No Luck Against We Brits, Irish and Scots!|a video]] on my YouTube in a Kilt for a past girlfriend, who dumped me; [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|I moved on]].

The story of [[The Wallflower|that girlfriend]]; she and I had met at a social even; we found lots in common; we were starting work on a book of a King who was changed into a Guiding Owl (like the Owl of Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings). I came up with the concept. I created a sample of the story in a LittleBiGPlanet Level; a Foretaste, and I said it was a "Chris Chan/Damien Anteria" (her pen name) production. My trolls had the know of me finding this lady, but not of her real name. I had thought using her pen name was safe; she had some of her own fanfiction online. But she had to have a damn [[Facebook]] Page. The trolls found her real name and info; made up a mockery page of her on one of their websites; she was informed and [[Wallflower E-mails 3|became really angry at me and dumped me]]. Even worse, they pestered her and her family with phone calls and pretending to be me. It made me very sad, and I suffered a lingering heartache for over two weeks. I recovered a while later, and I moved on.

With that, about the past girlfriend who was raped; she lived in Australia; we were getting along great on Skype talk for months. Then the Troll, [[Clyde Cash]], found her and flew all the way there and Raped her. After that, I had not heard from her. She was going to come to Virginia and continue our relationship in person after she graduated from her college there. I had later read of the Australian bushfires that spread and took a number of lives. Without a word from her, I had assumed she was dead. It left me very sad for weeks. I did [[KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special|special dedications]] for her now and then. Then, well over a year later, [[Clyde_E-mails#Panda_Correspondence_.E2.80.94_March_17.2C_2010|I FINALLY get to hear from her again]], through Clyde Cash. Apparently after that rape, she not only got knocked-up, but she became a sex addict, and she left Australia, married and moved in with Clyde.

I will never forgive Clyde; he had hacked into my e-mail accounts, ebay, my Past Tripod Webhost Account, as well as a few others that later followed. And he managed to spend off of my debit card on Amazon. Fortunately, I had successfully undid that damage, with changing my bank account numbers and getting a new card. I almost lost my PayPal as well, but I managed to save that. He also pestered me with phone calls, [[Hooker incident|sending unwanted prostitutes to my house]] (who my family and I later turned into the police and had arrested with a quick photo of their front license plate on their car). He also hacked into my Playstation Network account twice. He has done too much for me to ever forgive him, that damn son of a bitch.

Going back to Alec, he was a dude who disagreed with me and my view of the Autism/Asperger issue; he has Aspergers. That disagreement was one factor in our disputes and his attacks on my Cwcipedia. And the Autism/Asperger issue, YES I will admit SCIENCE stupidly decided to link the two, but as an [[Slow-in-the-mind|individual person]], I do not, and I will not ever agree with them. All it is really is [[Aspergers (CWCipedia article)|MOVING the Spotlight from us Autistics to the Aspergers]]. I have had to suffer and recover in my whole lifetime with my autism; I refuse to let something that has a name that sounds like a bad cut of meat and is NOT as Special as us take our light away.

As for ANY "pages" that appear wrongfully on my website's adspace, Please disregard and ignore those; they are NOT mine, and I have never approved of them.

<nowiki>*sigh*</nowiki>

Anyway, you have a great idea on my thing at the Game Place; a Sit-In. I will remember that if they give me trouble and don't want to resolve it and make peace. Although I would first give them my scary, [[The Creepy Stare |intimidating glare of anger]] . That is something I'd rather do than violence. The only time I would throw a punch would be in self-defense. [[CWC Fighter|I'm a tough fighter]].

Dating Education can work, because there are a LOT of people who have little knowledge of what to say or do when asking a person of their opposite gender out as well as the concept of where to go and do for the dates. I mean Sexual Education ALONE is okay, but the question still would remain for those who do not know, HOW DO WE EVEN GET TO DATE #1 that would lead to that? It does not come natural to some; it was not natural for me.

Currently I am living with my mom and dad; they're retired now, but my father, [[Robert Franklin Chandler Jr]], was an Engineer with General Electric. He designed the controls for Plastic Molding machines and others. Without my dad, we would not have something as simple as the plastic soda bottles. My mom, [[Barbara Ann Weston Chandler]], did mostly secretarial work and recovery for Virginia Power (which is now Dominion Power) and First North American National Bank (FNANB). I have two half-brothers and a half-sister. Joseph [[Cole Smithey]], of my mother, is currently in New York City, living with his girlfriend and her family, and is a movie reviewer with a website; http://www.colesmithey.com. Of my dad, Dr. David Alan Chandler is an Optometrist in Chesterfield County; he is married and has a daughter named Savannah. And then there's Carol Suzanne Chandler; she got a PhD in Math; last my father and I heard, she was working with the Government in D.C.

To answer your question of wanting to something with my degree, other than architecture (which that job does not thrill me), I feel uncertain of which local jobs I could get with it, especially their availability of being open for application in constant question; it's a low availability.

I have heard of [censored] before; good place. My father pointed it out for me a few times when we visited Staunton in my past. Mom and dad used to take me sometimes to the Gypsy Hill Park's Playground (it's the park with the big duck pond and the little train that runs in warm weather for the children. :) There's also a baseball field and a pool. We also sometimes enjoy(d) dining at Country Cookin' restaurants; there's one in a mall there in Staunton; you may be able to find its address on countrycookin.com.

There's a number of [[Nudes|good pictures]] of me on the Cwcipedia, look up the page, "Christian in his own words"; there is an expandable gallery of photos on the bottom. I look forward to seeing more photos of you; have fun with them. :)

Let me guess, since you're living in Staunton, the bar you go to on some Fridays is in Staunton also? It is cool; I have driven myself to Staunton before, so I am capable of coming to you. As for our plan for our meet next Friday; did you have in mind you coming to C-Ville for that date, or should I plan on making the trip to you? I'm just clarifying it. If I was to come over there, and it gets late, I'll probably have to crash at your place for the night. So, please let me know in your reply. ;)}}

====Photoshop bad. Hand-drawing good.====
{{quotebox|Chris 
April 8, 2010 - 11:19pm 
I hit Send instead of Save Draft before I finished that e-mail.

The main story of my comics are within My Pages; my hand-drawing style is easy to recognize, so please don't confuse it with anyone else's (especially Alec), as well as messed-up photoshop versions the trolls have put together in the past.

I'll wrap this up for now, and I am looking forward to meeting you, and I will be continuing to think of you fondly. You [[mass debating|warm up my heart]], Jackie. :)

Stay Safe, 
XOXOXO 
Christian.}}

====Jackie loves Asperchu====

{{quoteboxred|Jackie 
April 9, 2010 - 4:54pm 
Wow, you have a lot to say, don't you? :)

I understand your hesitation about not knowing what kind of job you can get with your degree, like I said, I've been there too. You should do what I did and go back to school! Now that you're older I'm sure you've thought a lot about what type of career you'd like to have, you can go back and get any kind of degree you want, maybe you can also find a way to use your first one like I'm doing.

But you know, I followed the link of that Asperchu on the front page and spent over two HOURS reading it last night, I thought it was so funny and well-written, honey I'm so sorry, I thought it was YOURS! I can't believe that about that guy that draws it, that's just terrible. But I'm surprised a troll would go to such lengths, he's still drawing it every day and making updates and writing letters to his fans, even though you don't seem to care about Asperchu anymore, why would he keep doing that if you weren't paying attention? Did you maybe try talking to him nicely about the adspace and finding out why he was doing it, it just seems weird to me that he would keep doing that unless he had a reason. Anyway, enough of that, I was disappointed because I was looking for your recent comic pages but it doesn't look like you've been drawing much lately...? I thought Sonichu was so important to you considering how much you loved telling me about it, I thought it was like a daily webcomic that you did like Asperchu was, it seemed like that was your focus since you're not employed. And I'm kind of confused, is Sonichu supposed to be a children's comic? Because you censor swearing and have important morals and things like a kid's cartoon would have all over the place, but then you have stuff like that violent trial, where you killed those strange children (couldn't figure out who they were in the story, btw)... I like a story with violence, believe me, but I'm just confused who the target audience is?

And honey, I'm not really sure why you say science is "stupid", scientists put a lot of time and research into their work, like my psychiatrist friend. I don't get why you think autism is about having a "spotlight", I mean, people with aspergers have big problems too, my friend works with quite a few children with aspergers, its no picnic, they work their whole lives to overcome their effects too. Besides, if aspergers is a type of autism, then wouldn't you all just share the same "spotlight", what's wrong with that? I mean, everyone who has a problem they need help with deserves some attention, don't you think?

Anyway, I would love to see some new comics on your site, I'm gonna be honest, I really want a guy who's motivated, you know? Have you gone to the Game Place yet? Make sure you do record yourself being peaceful so they can't lie and turn it against you. I'm still excited to hear how it goes!

TTYS,

~ ~ Jackie ~ ~}}

====Comics on Lulu, Chris is still working, Chris hates Aspergers====

{{quotebox|Chris 
April 9, 2010 - 8:46pm 
I am uncertain of going back to school at the moment, and I am still uncertain of what career I feel would be best for me. I have printed the message, and I will keep your suggestion in my mind. Thank you. :)

Sonichu has been, and still is, very important to me. As for the contents of the 10th book, with [[Sonichu 10#Forgiveness...?|the Trial]] and anything to do with Alec and those guys, will be swapped out for new pages I am working on. I've been on a hiatus from the internet, and recovering the inspiration to get back to my work, Free of most Troll Influence. It was that influence that made me feel such irritation to draw what I drew there. I originally started the books, YES for a rating of TV-Y7, and that same influence from the past few years drew me to go into [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack|adult themes]].

I lost focus, and I am regaining it from the hiatus. In a short while, I plan on putting my #0 book onto Lulu.com, to see how that would work, and let that go on a monthly new release. With reasonable page-removal/swapping, so it can be of TV-Y7 rating. Within the first 10 books, I put too much of myself into the story (a later-learned big mistake). But as I had stated in that book, [[Lie|I will be making less appearances]], and letting the stories focus more around Sonichu and [[Rosechu]], as it should have been. And the villains will be less real-life based; thank God for my creation of [[Count Graduon]]; he will possess Metal Sonichu on the moon and make his return in 12 or later. I am very motivated.

I do agree, everyone who has a problem deserve some attention. My [[Aspergers (CWCipedia article)|opinions on the asperger symptom]] is just a piece of my OCD, and I feel the topic is better less discussed around me. Very much the same as my opinion on how my characters are being wrongfully portrayed by other people, because I feel it is an invasion into my world as I see and have made of it. But as long as I am still alive, all of the ideas and status of Sonichu, Rosechu, the city of Cwcville, and all that continue to remain sound and good as I see it.

I feel my comics are LESS of a webcomic and more of paper comic; I only shared it on the Sonichu Site originally, because it was a part of the Sonichu Universe. A big difference in webcomics and paper comics, from my point of view, webcomics are more of a daily panel, like in a newspaper, or if full-page, they are more likely computer-drawn, and they do appear on a daily basis. Paper Comics are the FULL books, where the whole story is elaborated, and it gets told on a monthly or so basis. I feel my books are better off as Monthly, since it is on Paper, and there are a LOT of pages and Sound Thought put into them.

New comics pages WILL be put up onto the [[Cwcipedia]] in due time, and for right now, I am concentrating on going self-publishing with Lulu, getting them better edited for the TV-Y7 audiences, and continuing with my stories. And I am also concentrating on my real life and seeking out the True Love I have been looking for, and I am thinkin' it'll be with you, Jackie-Heart. ;) I have a ton in mind for my "Second Season"; the stories are of my idea for the video game I often advertised on the backs of my books, "[[Sonichu Adventure|Sonichu's Adventure]]". Basically, it is the stories of adventures between Sonichu, Rosechu and each of the [[Chaotic Combo|other main Electric-Hedgehogs]]. Like for example, Wild Sonichu's story is of after he loses his father to some Pok'emon poachers (possibly of Team Rocket and Giovanni), and years later, he hears the call of his father from afar, and he sets forward to find and rescue him. The ending being he finds his Scyther father evolved to a Scizor, and it draws into a plot [[Ripped off|similar]] to that in Star Wars between Luke and Vader.

I will be making the trip to [[the Game Place]] within the next few days; I [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|will bring a recorder to get the event down]], and I will let you know how it turns out.

Anyway, I would like to talk more about you as well as me, so please fill me in on some your own memories and events. Like you can tell me some of your high school or college stories, some of the things that happen while you're relaxing, hanging out or whatever. And I still would like the confirmation on our plans for our meeting date; do tell what you have in mind, Sweetie. <3

I'm thinking fondly of you. You stay safe, and have a good day.

XOXOXOXO 
Christian.}}

====Answer: No, Chris can't sing====

{{quoteboxred|Jackie 
April 9, 2010 - 9:09pm 
Hi honey :)

I'm glad you'll think about going back to school, it's important to have goals. I'm curious, why did you pursue the CADD degree in the first place?

I don't have much time to talk, I'm exhausted. I spent six hours in class today and then had to work at the paper for another four, now I've got a huge anthropology project I need to start putting together. What about you, what did you do today? You must have drawn some pages today, right? How about Lulu, did you get any of your books up there yet? I know a couple people that have published stuff on Lulu, like poetry books and stuff, they say it's really easy and quick, the website pretty much does all the work for you. Oh! When exactly are you going to the Game Place? I'm really excited about it. If you're not doing anything tomorrow you should go then!

Hey, you know I was showing our emails to my roommate and talking about you with her, and when she saw the part where you said you have a deep voice, and I was wondering... do you sing at all? It'd be nice to hear your voice.

~ ~ Jackie ~ ~}}

====Chris is lazy, Hates simple chores====

{{quotebox|Chris 
April 10, 4:20pm 
I'll go to the Game Place after [[Church]] tomorrow, and I'll be getting started on Lulu.com today. I have a few new pages drawn, but I ask you to not [[Stress|pressure]] me on that every e-mail, please. To talk about it every once in a while is cool.

I have videos on YouTube of myself (the most recent has my deep voice, and there are a few of me [[Chris and music#Singing|singing]]); my current account is ChristianWChandler (http://www.youtube.com/user/ChristianWChandler), and my past account (lost the password long ago, and have been unable to log back into it) is CChan6789 (http://www.youtube.com/user/CChan6789). Plenty of past vocal and singing videos between the two. :) Although, I did sometimes act a bit [[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!|immature]]; I am only human, so please disregard those.

I think I've said this before, but originally, out of confusion, my original major was something of Marketing. After consultation with my father, I later switched to CADD as my major. So, I had two reasons for the CADD; it dealt with computers, and because of my father. His intentions were good; he was thinking of possible job opportunities for me and whatnot.

I have been helping my family with chores lately; moving tree branches, disposing of garbage, as well as a few errands. Yesterday, I went out for groceries; I put a Phillips 2003 Flat-Screen TV (with a big back) into my car to either be sold at a pawn shop or donated to the new Goodwill that will be opening soon in Ruckersville. And today, I'll be changing the flea/tick collars on my [[Chandler Cats|three cats]]; Lucy, Kitty and Scamper. Photos of the cats are attached, as well as a photo of my late dog, [[Patti]]; she died June of 2006 at 18 years of age. She was a sweet and good dog. Kitty was close friends with her.

I'm going to head to Lulu.com now, so I'll send another e-mail later. I still need confirmation of the details of our little date next Friday.

Stay Safe, and have a good day, Sweetie. :-* 
XOXOXO 
Christian.}}

====Jackie urges Chris to record the Game Place audio====

{{quoteboxred|Jackie 
April 10, 2010 - 5:47pm 
Hey!

Aw, your cats are cute! So it sounds like yesterday you just took it easy, hm? We all need days like those, I remember about a month ago I came home one weekend and just helped my dad wash and wax his car (he loves classic cars, we always bonded over that stuff when I was little), then we went for a long bike ride, it was just a fun, relaxing day. What's a busy day like for you? I'm sorry if I was pressuring you, but... you loved to share your updates with me on the comic, I thought you were doing it all the time. I mean, you're 28 and you don't have a job, I thought the comic was what you were going for professionally.

I'm glad you're going to the store tomorrow! Hey, like I said, when you go to the Game Place, make SURE you bring your camera and record it, it's very important you have a record of the whole thing so they can't lie later about you. I can't wait to hear the results! Oh, and about the date, since I'll be coming home to Charlottesville, I was thinking you could pick a place that you like, maybe. What kind of places do you like to go?

Let me know how things go,

~ ~ Jackie ~ ~}}

====Jackie's Questionnaire 1====

{{quoteboxred|Jackie 
April 10, 2010 - 7:46pm 
Hey, my roommate showed me a little questionnaire she did when she met her new boyfriend to help them get to know each other, I thought it would be a cute way for us to learn a few more things about each other. I don't have it in front of me but I'll put the questions I remember and then give my answers.

What is your favorite time of day? Mine is in the evening.
 When did you have your first kiss? I was 16.
 Who was your childhood hero? Mine was Spider-man.
 Have you ever been outside the country? If so, where to? I've never been, although I almost went to France once.
 How old were you when you learned Santa Clause isn't real? I don't think I ever really believed in Santa, actually.
 When was the first time you fell in love? I was 17... it didn't last very long.
 When was the saddest time in your life? For me, probably when my parents got divorced when I was a kid. (They got back together, thankfully.)
 When was the happiest time in your life? I think the first time I fell in love was... again, didn't last very long.

I don't remember any other questions, but I'd love to see your answers!

Kisses,

~ ~ Jackie ~ ~}}

====Chris's Questionnaire #1====

{{quotebox|Chris 
April 11, 2010 7:49am 
Firstly, Sonichu and Rosechu ARE a top priority project of mine, and I AM [[CWC Blog#10 March 2010|working on going Professional]] with the books. Originally, and mostly, it was a hobby of mine, and I do have some fun with the drawing and coloring. But of course life isn't just about comic book pages; I felt partially empty, because I have not had a woman as a [[Sweetheart]] by my side in real life. And I've had my troubles with the internet bullies; that only made me feel weighed down emotionally. But as I live on, off of the internet and [[Anti Troll Movement Video1|putting]] [[100 2270|the trolls]] [[100 2267|behind me]], and being found by you, Jackie. :) I am feeling a better sense of peace and happiness.

To answer that set of questions...

-What is your favorite time of day? I'd say the evening/night.
 -When did you have your first kiss? Depends. If you mean for me to kiss a woman outside of my family on the cheek, then that would be when I was 19. If you mean mouth-to-mouth with optional tongue-play, then I have not done that in my life yet.
 -Who was your childhood hero? I had two; first was the [[American Rabbit]], then Sonic the Hedgehog dashed in.
 -Have you ever been outside the country? If so, where to? I have never been outside of the [[United States]].
 -How old were you when you learned [[Santa Clause]] isn't real? Learned: I'm not sure; maybe 15 or 16. Gave up on Santa: 24 (when he would not [[Women's Rights|bring me a woman to be mine]] for three years).
 -When was the first time you fell in love? First time ever, I was in the 3rd Grade; her name was Tiffany Robbinson; she was a pretty girl. We hung out and talked often. Then during the 4th Grade, she dumped and left me.
 -When was the saddest time in your life? When my dog, Patti, passed away on June 27, 2006.
 -When was the happiest time in your life? After you found, contacted and made me feel better, Jackie-Heart. <3<3<3<3<3<3<3

Answering short questions like those, telling my life stories, or even just talkin' about whatever with you; I feel better discussing those over work-topics or things that really grind my gears in extended periods. I think you can relate with me on that.

Let me ask you a few more questions...

-What are some TV shows you like to watch? I enjoy the classics, such as "[[I Love Lucy]]" and [[Red Skelton]], but I also enjoy some of today's adult comedies like "[[Family Guy]]", "[[South Park]]", "[[The Simpsons]]", and I also like "[[Seinfeld]]" and "Friends" to name a few.
 -What is your dream? I have a [[Dreams|dream]] where I feel I am destined to have a [[Daughter]] named Crystal Weston Chandler with my future wife. Also, if there is a boy later, I like the name [[Reginald]] for him.
 -What is your favorite color? I like Blue, specifically [[Chris and art#Choices of materials and technology|Crayola's Battery-Charged Blue]].
 -When's your birthday? I was born February 24, 1982.
 -Name a place where you can feel a sense of peace and happiness hanging around in. I like a sunny day at a grassy field with a few trees in the mountains.
 -What's your favorite ice cream flavor? I like Mint/Chocolate Chip.
 -What's your favorite pizza topping? I like Spinach (mushrooms optional).
 -What is a word you just really hate hearing/being called? [[Naive]]; it questions my mentality and experience.
 -What is your favorite school subject? I enjoyed Math.

Also, I like doing Sudoku puzzles; do you sudoku?

I gtg get ready for [[church]] now; I will be going by the Game Place afterwards, and I will let you know how that goes later.

Stay Safe, Sweetie. 
Hugs and Kisses, 
Christian.}}

====Places in Charlottesville====

{{quotebox|Chris 
April 11, 2010 - 8:28am 
As for places I like to go, we can meet by the Starbucks Kiosk in Fashion Square Shopping Center. Or we can meet up in the Downtown Mall by the Paramount. I am open for your suggestions as well. Please let me know what time will be good for you; currently, I'm thinking 4:00 PM. Also, I've just checked on readthehook.com, and I have found a bit of good music entertainment on the 16th; Bob Bennetta will be playing in Fellini's #9 at 6:00. And we'll see [[Hanky-panky|where the night leads us]]. ;)

TTYL. XOXOXOXO 
Christian.}}

==See also==
*[[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV]]
*[[To Jackie, with Love.MOV]]
*[[Song for Jackie.MOV]]
*[[Lars' Ship has Sunk.MOV]]

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Talk:Saga

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Kaltenbrunner: /* Is there an "Ebay" Saga going on right now? */

Add the sagas that we have from the [[List of Videos]] page and describe the overarching storylines in each. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 14:09, 19 October 2009 (CEST)
*The current saga should be called the "Revalation" saga. --[[User:14recinez|14recinez]] 15:30, 14 September 2013 (EST)
*i think a visual representation of the sagas would greatly improve the article. a vertical, multi-part image would work quite well, i think, but all ideas are welcome. thoughts? --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 17:09, 19 October 2009 (CEST)
:*A visual representation would be awesome, I'm just not an artsy kind of guy to do that :3. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:53, 19 October 2009 (CEST)
::*Oh, maybe Cogs was thinking like a timeline with shadded parts to indicate sagas and show the overlaps. Very good idea, even I could do that. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:17, 20 October 2009 (CEST)
:*I'll start compiling images for each section. I'll try my best anyway. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:49, 23 October 2009 (CEST)
==Changes==
So basically what I tried to do so far is sum up every saga in 3 images. Is this at all helpful? I can upload colour versions instead if we prefer, but I thought this looked kind of good. I can also put all of them together to make a MEGASAGA sort of image that we can add to as more sagas become apparent. What do we want? Or delete them if you think they are gay. If they are not gay, then I will finish the rest tomorrow. ALSO: I can make a vertically oriented timeline (like from a history book) showing how they progress and overlap. Or horizontally, whatever we want really. Just tell me. For now, I need to sleep. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:25, 24 October 2009 (CEST)

* I actually really like these. [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 03:38, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
:*I like them. Though I think that like, the subject of the saga should be in the center. Like, the Miyamoto saga, Reggie is in the middle when it really should be Miyamoto. If I may recommend one for Liquid, if there was a way to make it look like they're staring down each other, that'd be cool. Otherwise, nice work, I like the general idea. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:47, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
::*Your wish is my command. It is done. I think I got what you wanted for the Liquid saga too... Now what exactly? I can get started on a timeline. I guess I will work on making each subsection more introductory in the text too... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 20:49, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
::*So I have added some detail to give a bit more advanced insight on the sagas for this page. I hope it is helpful. Are there any other sagas that should be here? I assume not. What do we need to add to make this... complete... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:23, 25 October 2009 (CEST)

==Timeline==
[[Image:Timeline.png|right]]
So the timeline you see running here is one I made for this article. Problem, When I run it down the right side of the article it looks funny. At least I think it does. Try it. Should we put it there... or what? I will just work on the actual text of this article until we decide what to do about the imagery. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:33, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
*I haven't heard any opinions on this and they claimed to like it in IRC so I have it running down the right. Revert it if you like. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:41, 25 October 2009 (CET)
:*I like it a lot too. Having it up and down isn't orthodox but it's well suited for the media. Very nice job. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)
*I think it looks great, but I think the information is a bit wrong... the Megan Saga went on through the beginning of 2008 and into the ED and Adam Stackhouse affairs. Hell, there wouldn't be a Stackhouse Saga without Megan. Otherwise, it looks good.
----[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 06:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

==Gregg Mays saga==
Not sure if we should consider it part of Clyde Cash saga but we should consider a Gregg Mays saga to include all this Gregg Mays stuff. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)

==Jack Thaddeus Saga, anyone?==
Or does anyone think it's too early? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 03:42, 2 January 2010 (CET)
* I was about to suggest the same thing. With the [[Kill de Jack|recent]] [[To Clyde and Jack|videos]] aimed at him, the [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call|three]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 2|phone]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 3|calls]] and the CWCipedia ad shenanigans, not to mention [[It's UGH!|previous]] [[Chris humps his PS3|antics]], there seems to be enough material to warrant a new saga. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 05:17, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
** Don't forget about Asperchu in the future. Seeing how dedicated Alec is with it so far (and Jack just started advertising his wiki in CWCipedia), a Saga for that is inevitable! --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 05:32, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
*** And I think it has begun! --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 02:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
**** {{Asperchu}} [[Asperchu]] Saga. You like? --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 02:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
***** Very nice! Now how about Jack, anyone? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 02:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
***** Awesome job on the icon! --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 02:09, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
===Actually...===
Looking at recent edits, someone was adding a "Homosexual ad saga" to this page but it was reverted. While not a proper saga, I'd say it's a sort of mini saga and it's part of the Chris narrative, as it leads into Asperchu saga. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:49, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not sure I'd call the homosexual ads a saga by itself, but part of a CWCipedia saga? I'm certainly not part of the inner circle, but I imagine more hi-jinks involving the CWCipedia are in store. [[User:Chris fangs|Chris fangs]] 21:54, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
*I reverted it. It wasn't a proper saga, no. Even if it could be considered one, the information wasn't presented well enough. I first reverted the changes made to the timeline PNG[http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:Timeline.png], which also wasn't up to par. There could be a lead-in to the Asperchu Saga, sure, but I would vote no on calling it a saga. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
*I re-reverted because you're a huge faggot have a nice day [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]

*Actually, I changed my mind. If someone could make a better, more convincing presentation of it, go ahead. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:*I agree that the presentation on the timeline sucks, and the name "Homosexual ad saga" does as well. I think Chris fangs is onto something about it being called "CWCipedia saga" since in a way, the Mailbag is a way of trolling Chris and CWCipedia in general sorta inadvertently trolls Chris. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:20, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
::*Well, it seems I've angered someone. Not my intentions, to be sure. Anyway, CWCipedia Saga has a nice ring to it and it's relevant, since the Mailbag is certainly a repository of ongoing trolling. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:28, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
::*Champthom, I'll leave it to you to revert the timeline image/Saga page or not. I don't wish to get into a revert war over Chris Chan. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:34, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:::*I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that you're right but so is Nitrocore. The concept of a saga invoking CWCipedia, perhaps call it CWCipedia saga, is good or maybe Jack Thaddeus saga (though I'm aiming at the former) but you are correct in that the write up and the name at the time did kinda suck, and we still need to work on the timeline. For starters, we need to get in touch with the original creator of the timeline or maybe start from scratch. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:58, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
* Ha i win sucker, I actually like "Cwc saga" as well i was just adding stuff(unlike you) if you can combine it and possibly make it better with external links then I'm not bothered [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]
::::*I went with the CWCipedia idea. It's a rough draft, but you get the idea. Nitro, if there is a next time, try not to act like a child. Also, sign your discussion edits with the timestamp. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 00:37, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

==The CWCki Saga, anyone?==

I was going to start this, but decided otherwise unless objects to it, but what we got here is the start of a third saga - CWCki Saga. Chris knows about the CWCki and now he wants to take control of it. You think we should start gathering information on this?--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:19, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*Damn. It's barely 24 hrs in and we are already talking about a saga! I think it is a tad too early to talk about a saga. Outside of "The WallFlower Incident", we got mostly nothing. Let's wait a little to see where it will goes. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:*I agree. Luckily, we'll probably find out two days from now, when his ultimatum gets ignored to death. If nothing comes of it, then nothing comes of it. If he spazzes out and does something really stupid, like threatening legal action or starting an epic edit war, then yeah. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 05:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

==Vanessa Saga==

My old pet project, probably not long or significant enough, but some pretty good videos and logs came from that --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 07:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
*Vanessa saga is one of the unsung tales of the overarching CWC saga and it's sorry that it isn't currently reflected here. However, perhaps now in retrospect it seems more to be part of Ivy saga, though Vanessa saga had dynamic elements and whatnot. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

== more saga sum up images ==

we need a saga image for asperchu (not tito yet) and the cwikipedia saga--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 02:19, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Heres a quick one i made for the game place, just to throw out the idea, can't use it since it doesn't match the others
[[image:Picture_4.png]]

== Tito saga ==

'''In December 2009, Chris released a page from Sonichu 10, which revealed a girl named [[Lovely Weather]]. Many trolls were confused as to why Chris would create a fictional love interest when previous issues used real life girls. The confusion continued when Chris revealed he had a gal-pal during some of his Mailbags.'''

Is it just me or does this seem to suggest that "Lovely Weather" is connected to [[The Wallflower]]? If so, this text is incorrect as Chris didn't meet Wallflower until January at the latest. Srsly guys. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:50, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
* Okay, I'll admit - I wrote that bit when it seemed like there was a connection between Weather and Wallflower. I'll alter it so it won't seem that way.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 13:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

==IRL Saga?==

It might be too early for this, but if he keeps up these public creeper antics, methinks an "IRL Saga" would be appropriate. --[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 16:12, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
* I always thought it would be better to call everything that's happened since he "left" the Internet the "CWC Exile Saga". But, still, IRL Saga's just as good.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 16:24, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
**How about 'Reality Saga'? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:48, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
***If we're going to do that, we might as well include the Love Quest as a saga, since this sounds pretty much like a repeat of those events. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 17:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
**** I understand the reasoning behind that, though a good chunk of the Love Quest happened online within specific sagas. Personally, the only issue I would see with such a saga (CWC Exile is a great title) is that it overlaps with The GAMe PLACe and the last bit of Surfshack Tito.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 01:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
***** I think, in a technical level, we're between sagas. We just simply have to wait and see what damn fool thing he does next. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 02:06, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== Flipnote Hatena saga ==

Does it count as one yet? He's slowly cracking at the seams, and it could get worse. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 20:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
*It looks like it might form a saga as he goes along and breaks more Flipnote Waptena rules, so it's plausible. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 21:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
**Of course he's banned from uploading anything now. I think it was a bit short to count as a saga. A bit uneventful too, though that's just my thoughts on it. If everyone else thinks it could be considered it's own saga... Go for it.--[[User:Yoyoddd|Yoyoddd]] 10:07, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
***I look at this a bit like the Tito saga; very little actually was done to Chris, but it was his response to what happened that made it a saga. We have to wait and see how he reacts to the ban to see whether it's worthy or not. That's just my two cents though. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 10:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
****Maybe we should put "interim activities" as a separate category; nothing that fits the criteria for saga but still somewhat noteworthy. Chris being "off the internet" and on flipnote for a month could merit that. That way we could still fill out the periods between major sagas. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 14:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
*****Even if it doesn't count as a full-fledged "Saga" it was a pretty crazy two weeks. I'm not sure if he'll return to youtube as a result of his banning, but I'm sure he'll cap off the whole thing with an enraged complaint ''somewhere''.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 15:41, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

==PS3 Saga?==

Before somebody already points it out, I know that the few destruction videos he put up doesn't count as a saga. I'm wondering if we should make a saga for the activities that lead to it's destruction. There's a lot of juicy info I'd like to catalog, but I don't know if it's officially over yet or not (And i also don't want to disrupt any trolling plans that may still be in motion). --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 15:04, 17 September 2010 (PDT)

==Missing Sagas==
Why aren't the sagas caused by [[Vanessa_Saga|Joshua Martinez]] included on the saga list?
*1) please sign your posts (it's four ~ in a row) 2) the stuff from Joshua Martinez is really part of Ivy saga. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

==On Sagas==
This isn't picking on anything that's going on here, but I was thinking and I think the term "saga" gets abused - not so much on here, mind you, but elsewhere but I think it sometimes spills over to the CWCki.

What is a saga? Like the article says, it's an overarching story in the life and times of Chris. For instance, let's take Miyamoto saga, which, also as the article says, what really started the whole "saga" thing. You have Chris and "Miyamoto" talking to each other over several weeks, and there's conflict between the two, then there's Reggie who gets involved, and then there's all the videos inbetween. If you watch a video from the saga without the context the saga arch provides, you're missing out on a lot. They're all intertwined, the content that is, and that's what the saga theme is all about, taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.

So what does this mean? You calling Chris is not "You calling Chris saga." Chris dressing up as a woman is not "Tomgirl saga." Seeing Chris at the mall is not "Chris at the mall saga." Chris does stuff, it doesn't need to fit in part of a narrative. It's sorta a chapter in the overarching saga that is Chris's life, but not a saga in itself. Secondly, I don't think sagas are really made. I think people expect to troll Chris and want some place on this page, wanting their own "Gigantic Attention Whore saga." Pretty much every saga wasn't intended to be a saga, it's not like they planned this all out, it's just going with the flow and it happens to have narrative to it.

I had more but I forgot what else I was going to say. But hopefully this will make sense and serve as a guide to what is a saga and what isn't, so much as how it should be included on the page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

*Actually, while we're talking about sagas, I'd like to ask for a bit of clarification on how saga related articles are named. Recent sagas for instance are just documented in the article on the appropriate person. The article on the Ivy Saga is called [[Ivy]] and the article on the Liquid Saga is called [[Liquid Chris]]. But then there are articles which are literally called [[Miyamoto Saga]] or [[Vanessa Saga]], which are full of emails just dumped there incomprehensibly. And this is in spite of there actually being articles for [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] and [[Vanessa Hudgens]]. Don't get me wrong, I realize the need to keep the crap ton of emails separate from the main articles, but the naming convention is just odd. I'm not quite sure, but I'm willing to bet it's Clyde's fault. What is the official policy on naming saga articles? Should they all be named as "X" or as "X Saga"? And while we're on it, some sagas have a weird little template documenting all things related to them. Two I can name are [[:Template:BlancaSaga]] and [[:Template:MeganSaga]]. I don't think they're bad. They could use a little cleanup, but I do have a problem with the fact that some sagas have them and others don't. They could serve as a great way to sum up everything and point users in the direction of content relevant to each saga, but as it is right now, there's no consistency in which sagas have them. What should we do? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:29, 22 June 2011 (PDT)
:*Good points. In regards to the e-mails, I guess people consider the bulk of the saga the e-mails or IM chats behind them, but perhaps we could rename them to be "Miyamoto Saga e-mails" or "Vanessa Saga chats"? It's probably Clyde's fault, at least for the Miyamoto e-mails. As for the templates, they probably could use cleaning up and the reason why some do and some don't is because people haven't gotten around to doing them for other templates (which can be something you can work on, if you so please). Definitely, make templates for each saga, that'd be a great way to present information. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:46, 23 June 2011 (PDT)
::*Well if you think that's something for me to work on then I suppose I could have a go at it. It'd make a change from all the sonichu shit that I've been doing recently. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:41, 24 June 2011 (PDT)

== Individual Saga pages ==

I didn't know where to put this suggestion, so I'm putting it here. I was thinking we can give each Saga its own page. The pages would go into more detail about the saga, a summary of the events, and a listing of videos, emails, etc. in order by date. This serves to make a description about all events in the Saga from beginning to end, as there is none on the CWCki. The closest there is to it is the timeline with all of the years and months, but often times there are events irrelevant to the Saga and events in other Sagas happening. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 16:47, 2 January 2012 (PST)
* EDIT: I noticed there are articles called "Vanessa Saga" and more, but those aren't the type of formats I'm talking about. Those pages are only content dumps, but what I'm talking about is much more organized.
* I made a [[Tomgirl Saga]] page. If there's a problem with it, or if the page is a bad idea, speak now or I'll write pages for the other sagas. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 09:56, 3 January 2012 (PST)
*I still don't think that the whole Tomgirl thing is actually a saga, but I'll let other people debate that as that's mostly my opinion. The thing is, the articles about respective sagas tend to be in the page about the people involved. Like, most of the stuff with the Ivy saga is in the [[Ivy]] page, and the stuff about Liquid is on the [[Liquid Chris]] page. I see what you want to do and it does make sense but I think it might be redundant unless we totally rework these biographical articles so we're not saying the same stuff on two different pages.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:38, 4 January 2012 (PST)
**I think that the question of whether or not every Saga deserves its own individual page should be decided on a case by case basis rather then collectively. I think that starting the article on the Tomgirl Saga was a good idea, but having articles such "Jackie Saga", "Blanca Saga" or "Julie Saga" will be redundant in my opinion. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 06:44, 4 January 2012 (PST)
*** i agree, this page handles the simplified explanations and servers as a nice jumping off point. There is plenty blue here to get you started and if you need details about the saga then read the details linked in blue :)
* I was thinking this myself. Not every saga needs a seperate page but sagas which involved a lot of interaction in the form of Youtube videos between two parties would benefit from a seperate entry. I'm especially thinking of the Liquid Chris/CWCivil war ordeal. One page or a group of pages with the video interaction between the two in chronological order would be very useful. Maybe the Asperchu saga also? I was taking a break from Chris during that period and am still not too clear on the chronology of events. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 09:06, 15 July 2012 (PDT)

== Second Exile saga? ==

Chris hasn't done anything of note lately. His therapist may have banned him from the internet, and is most likely doing his service or playing video games. This may go on for a while, and might be considered a saga.--[[User:Germanicus|Germanicus]] 14:13, 8 October 2012 (PDT)

- I disagree. A time without content, I feel, shouldn't be considered a saga.--[[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] 13:01, 3 Feburary 2014

== Regarding the Catherine Saga ==

I'll put the section back once the Catherine drama goes further. Like Champthom said before that sagas are "taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.", I say wait and see until we can confirm it. Right now, it's still early to claim a new saga. Not to mention sagas are abused to death. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 14:33, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
*I'll just share some comments I made in the chat on the CWCki Forums on the matter. Like I've said, the saga really should just be a tool to provide a narrative to what happens with Chris in specific periods. We probably have what constitutes a saga now - Chris is active on Facebook, he apparently has a girlfriend, he's trying to make money off eBay and Kickstarter, he's claiming to be fully transgendered. I'm inclined to call this "Facebook saga" as I feel the characterization of this saga is Chris's interactions with people on Facebook. It's unusual as we mostly focus on people but I think in this case, it might make sense to focus on the medium and not so much the persons involved. I feel that "Catherine saga" at this point is too narrow - we just have a single video and we're not really sure she's the main impetus behind this revival. To me at least, it seems sorta a side note compared to bigger picture things like Chris finally trying to earn money through his art and embracing transgenderism.
:Ideally, we'd name this after the fact but it's helpful to have a label for us to refer to the events now. Most of the sagas were named after the fact or it was extremely obvious what to name it after - Chris was seeing Ivy, pretty much everything he did involved Ivy, so it made sense to call that the Ivy saga. But we're not really seeing the same thing here with Catherine. We're different from Wikipedia in the sense that you as the users have influence in determining what this is called. In a way, original research is acceptable here mostly because there's not really formal institutions that study autistic manchildren for a living. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 14:41, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
*I have added some details to the Catherine and Sonic sagas, but I think that you are right about combining the Facebook saga point. A good deal of information from Catherine is not really typical trolling, but further information on Chris's condition as a Tomgirl and his general repulsive self. It may be a good idea to combine the two into some sort of saga, rather than having two separate sections.[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 13:30, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

== Is there an "Ebay" Saga going on right now? ==

Considering all of the ebay stuff that has been going on for a while, like the situation with Mr. Smith, the Tribalism art, and such, should it be considered a saga? It's long enough to be considered as saga, but I'm wondering it there was enough content to validate it being called a saga. -Fredinno, Feb 3, 2014.

*I think it would be best to make a Facebook Saga, as Champthom suggested above. Maybe Catherine could also be mentioned here too? And his return to his art. [[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 21:13, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Saga

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Kaltenbrunner: /* Regarding the Catherine Saga */

Add the sagas that we have from the [[List of Videos]] page and describe the overarching storylines in each. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 14:09, 19 October 2009 (CEST)
*The current saga should be called the "Revalation" saga. --[[User:14recinez|14recinez]] 15:30, 14 September 2013 (EST)
*i think a visual representation of the sagas would greatly improve the article. a vertical, multi-part image would work quite well, i think, but all ideas are welcome. thoughts? --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 17:09, 19 October 2009 (CEST)
:*A visual representation would be awesome, I'm just not an artsy kind of guy to do that :3. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:53, 19 October 2009 (CEST)
::*Oh, maybe Cogs was thinking like a timeline with shadded parts to indicate sagas and show the overlaps. Very good idea, even I could do that. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:17, 20 October 2009 (CEST)
:*I'll start compiling images for each section. I'll try my best anyway. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:49, 23 October 2009 (CEST)
==Changes==
So basically what I tried to do so far is sum up every saga in 3 images. Is this at all helpful? I can upload colour versions instead if we prefer, but I thought this looked kind of good. I can also put all of them together to make a MEGASAGA sort of image that we can add to as more sagas become apparent. What do we want? Or delete them if you think they are gay. If they are not gay, then I will finish the rest tomorrow. ALSO: I can make a vertically oriented timeline (like from a history book) showing how they progress and overlap. Or horizontally, whatever we want really. Just tell me. For now, I need to sleep. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:25, 24 October 2009 (CEST)

* I actually really like these. [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 03:38, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
:*I like them. Though I think that like, the subject of the saga should be in the center. Like, the Miyamoto saga, Reggie is in the middle when it really should be Miyamoto. If I may recommend one for Liquid, if there was a way to make it look like they're staring down each other, that'd be cool. Otherwise, nice work, I like the general idea. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:47, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
::*Your wish is my command. It is done. I think I got what you wanted for the Liquid saga too... Now what exactly? I can get started on a timeline. I guess I will work on making each subsection more introductory in the text too... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 20:49, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
::*So I have added some detail to give a bit more advanced insight on the sagas for this page. I hope it is helpful. Are there any other sagas that should be here? I assume not. What do we need to add to make this... complete... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:23, 25 October 2009 (CEST)

==Timeline==
[[Image:Timeline.png|right]]
So the timeline you see running here is one I made for this article. Problem, When I run it down the right side of the article it looks funny. At least I think it does. Try it. Should we put it there... or what? I will just work on the actual text of this article until we decide what to do about the imagery. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:33, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
*I haven't heard any opinions on this and they claimed to like it in IRC so I have it running down the right. Revert it if you like. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:41, 25 October 2009 (CET)
:*I like it a lot too. Having it up and down isn't orthodox but it's well suited for the media. Very nice job. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)
*I think it looks great, but I think the information is a bit wrong... the Megan Saga went on through the beginning of 2008 and into the ED and Adam Stackhouse affairs. Hell, there wouldn't be a Stackhouse Saga without Megan. Otherwise, it looks good.
----[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 06:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

==Gregg Mays saga==
Not sure if we should consider it part of Clyde Cash saga but we should consider a Gregg Mays saga to include all this Gregg Mays stuff. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)

==Jack Thaddeus Saga, anyone?==
Or does anyone think it's too early? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 03:42, 2 January 2010 (CET)
* I was about to suggest the same thing. With the [[Kill de Jack|recent]] [[To Clyde and Jack|videos]] aimed at him, the [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call|three]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 2|phone]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 3|calls]] and the CWCipedia ad shenanigans, not to mention [[It's UGH!|previous]] [[Chris humps his PS3|antics]], there seems to be enough material to warrant a new saga. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 05:17, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
** Don't forget about Asperchu in the future. Seeing how dedicated Alec is with it so far (and Jack just started advertising his wiki in CWCipedia), a Saga for that is inevitable! --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 05:32, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
*** And I think it has begun! --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 02:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
**** {{Asperchu}} [[Asperchu]] Saga. You like? --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 02:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
***** Very nice! Now how about Jack, anyone? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 02:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
***** Awesome job on the icon! --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 02:09, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
===Actually...===
Looking at recent edits, someone was adding a "Homosexual ad saga" to this page but it was reverted. While not a proper saga, I'd say it's a sort of mini saga and it's part of the Chris narrative, as it leads into Asperchu saga. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:49, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not sure I'd call the homosexual ads a saga by itself, but part of a CWCipedia saga? I'm certainly not part of the inner circle, but I imagine more hi-jinks involving the CWCipedia are in store. [[User:Chris fangs|Chris fangs]] 21:54, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
*I reverted it. It wasn't a proper saga, no. Even if it could be considered one, the information wasn't presented well enough. I first reverted the changes made to the timeline PNG[http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:Timeline.png], which also wasn't up to par. There could be a lead-in to the Asperchu Saga, sure, but I would vote no on calling it a saga. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
*I re-reverted because you're a huge faggot have a nice day [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]

*Actually, I changed my mind. If someone could make a better, more convincing presentation of it, go ahead. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:*I agree that the presentation on the timeline sucks, and the name "Homosexual ad saga" does as well. I think Chris fangs is onto something about it being called "CWCipedia saga" since in a way, the Mailbag is a way of trolling Chris and CWCipedia in general sorta inadvertently trolls Chris. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:20, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
::*Well, it seems I've angered someone. Not my intentions, to be sure. Anyway, CWCipedia Saga has a nice ring to it and it's relevant, since the Mailbag is certainly a repository of ongoing trolling. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:28, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
::*Champthom, I'll leave it to you to revert the timeline image/Saga page or not. I don't wish to get into a revert war over Chris Chan. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:34, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:::*I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that you're right but so is Nitrocore. The concept of a saga invoking CWCipedia, perhaps call it CWCipedia saga, is good or maybe Jack Thaddeus saga (though I'm aiming at the former) but you are correct in that the write up and the name at the time did kinda suck, and we still need to work on the timeline. For starters, we need to get in touch with the original creator of the timeline or maybe start from scratch. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:58, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
* Ha i win sucker, I actually like "Cwc saga" as well i was just adding stuff(unlike you) if you can combine it and possibly make it better with external links then I'm not bothered [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]
::::*I went with the CWCipedia idea. It's a rough draft, but you get the idea. Nitro, if there is a next time, try not to act like a child. Also, sign your discussion edits with the timestamp. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 00:37, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

==The CWCki Saga, anyone?==

I was going to start this, but decided otherwise unless objects to it, but what we got here is the start of a third saga - CWCki Saga. Chris knows about the CWCki and now he wants to take control of it. You think we should start gathering information on this?--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:19, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*Damn. It's barely 24 hrs in and we are already talking about a saga! I think it is a tad too early to talk about a saga. Outside of "The WallFlower Incident", we got mostly nothing. Let's wait a little to see where it will goes. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:*I agree. Luckily, we'll probably find out two days from now, when his ultimatum gets ignored to death. If nothing comes of it, then nothing comes of it. If he spazzes out and does something really stupid, like threatening legal action or starting an epic edit war, then yeah. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 05:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

==Vanessa Saga==

My old pet project, probably not long or significant enough, but some pretty good videos and logs came from that --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 07:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
*Vanessa saga is one of the unsung tales of the overarching CWC saga and it's sorry that it isn't currently reflected here. However, perhaps now in retrospect it seems more to be part of Ivy saga, though Vanessa saga had dynamic elements and whatnot. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

== more saga sum up images ==

we need a saga image for asperchu (not tito yet) and the cwikipedia saga--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 02:19, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Heres a quick one i made for the game place, just to throw out the idea, can't use it since it doesn't match the others
[[image:Picture_4.png]]

== Tito saga ==

'''In December 2009, Chris released a page from Sonichu 10, which revealed a girl named [[Lovely Weather]]. Many trolls were confused as to why Chris would create a fictional love interest when previous issues used real life girls. The confusion continued when Chris revealed he had a gal-pal during some of his Mailbags.'''

Is it just me or does this seem to suggest that "Lovely Weather" is connected to [[The Wallflower]]? If so, this text is incorrect as Chris didn't meet Wallflower until January at the latest. Srsly guys. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:50, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
* Okay, I'll admit - I wrote that bit when it seemed like there was a connection between Weather and Wallflower. I'll alter it so it won't seem that way.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 13:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

==IRL Saga?==

It might be too early for this, but if he keeps up these public creeper antics, methinks an "IRL Saga" would be appropriate. --[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 16:12, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
* I always thought it would be better to call everything that's happened since he "left" the Internet the "CWC Exile Saga". But, still, IRL Saga's just as good.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 16:24, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
**How about 'Reality Saga'? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:48, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
***If we're going to do that, we might as well include the Love Quest as a saga, since this sounds pretty much like a repeat of those events. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 17:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
**** I understand the reasoning behind that, though a good chunk of the Love Quest happened online within specific sagas. Personally, the only issue I would see with such a saga (CWC Exile is a great title) is that it overlaps with The GAMe PLACe and the last bit of Surfshack Tito.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 01:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
***** I think, in a technical level, we're between sagas. We just simply have to wait and see what damn fool thing he does next. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 02:06, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== Flipnote Hatena saga ==

Does it count as one yet? He's slowly cracking at the seams, and it could get worse. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 20:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
*It looks like it might form a saga as he goes along and breaks more Flipnote Waptena rules, so it's plausible. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 21:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
**Of course he's banned from uploading anything now. I think it was a bit short to count as a saga. A bit uneventful too, though that's just my thoughts on it. If everyone else thinks it could be considered it's own saga... Go for it.--[[User:Yoyoddd|Yoyoddd]] 10:07, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
***I look at this a bit like the Tito saga; very little actually was done to Chris, but it was his response to what happened that made it a saga. We have to wait and see how he reacts to the ban to see whether it's worthy or not. That's just my two cents though. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 10:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
****Maybe we should put "interim activities" as a separate category; nothing that fits the criteria for saga but still somewhat noteworthy. Chris being "off the internet" and on flipnote for a month could merit that. That way we could still fill out the periods between major sagas. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 14:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
*****Even if it doesn't count as a full-fledged "Saga" it was a pretty crazy two weeks. I'm not sure if he'll return to youtube as a result of his banning, but I'm sure he'll cap off the whole thing with an enraged complaint ''somewhere''.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 15:41, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

==PS3 Saga?==

Before somebody already points it out, I know that the few destruction videos he put up doesn't count as a saga. I'm wondering if we should make a saga for the activities that lead to it's destruction. There's a lot of juicy info I'd like to catalog, but I don't know if it's officially over yet or not (And i also don't want to disrupt any trolling plans that may still be in motion). --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 15:04, 17 September 2010 (PDT)

==Missing Sagas==
Why aren't the sagas caused by [[Vanessa_Saga|Joshua Martinez]] included on the saga list?
*1) please sign your posts (it's four ~ in a row) 2) the stuff from Joshua Martinez is really part of Ivy saga. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

==On Sagas==
This isn't picking on anything that's going on here, but I was thinking and I think the term "saga" gets abused - not so much on here, mind you, but elsewhere but I think it sometimes spills over to the CWCki.

What is a saga? Like the article says, it's an overarching story in the life and times of Chris. For instance, let's take Miyamoto saga, which, also as the article says, what really started the whole "saga" thing. You have Chris and "Miyamoto" talking to each other over several weeks, and there's conflict between the two, then there's Reggie who gets involved, and then there's all the videos inbetween. If you watch a video from the saga without the context the saga arch provides, you're missing out on a lot. They're all intertwined, the content that is, and that's what the saga theme is all about, taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.

So what does this mean? You calling Chris is not "You calling Chris saga." Chris dressing up as a woman is not "Tomgirl saga." Seeing Chris at the mall is not "Chris at the mall saga." Chris does stuff, it doesn't need to fit in part of a narrative. It's sorta a chapter in the overarching saga that is Chris's life, but not a saga in itself. Secondly, I don't think sagas are really made. I think people expect to troll Chris and want some place on this page, wanting their own "Gigantic Attention Whore saga." Pretty much every saga wasn't intended to be a saga, it's not like they planned this all out, it's just going with the flow and it happens to have narrative to it.

I had more but I forgot what else I was going to say. But hopefully this will make sense and serve as a guide to what is a saga and what isn't, so much as how it should be included on the page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

*Actually, while we're talking about sagas, I'd like to ask for a bit of clarification on how saga related articles are named. Recent sagas for instance are just documented in the article on the appropriate person. The article on the Ivy Saga is called [[Ivy]] and the article on the Liquid Saga is called [[Liquid Chris]]. But then there are articles which are literally called [[Miyamoto Saga]] or [[Vanessa Saga]], which are full of emails just dumped there incomprehensibly. And this is in spite of there actually being articles for [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] and [[Vanessa Hudgens]]. Don't get me wrong, I realize the need to keep the crap ton of emails separate from the main articles, but the naming convention is just odd. I'm not quite sure, but I'm willing to bet it's Clyde's fault. What is the official policy on naming saga articles? Should they all be named as "X" or as "X Saga"? And while we're on it, some sagas have a weird little template documenting all things related to them. Two I can name are [[:Template:BlancaSaga]] and [[:Template:MeganSaga]]. I don't think they're bad. They could use a little cleanup, but I do have a problem with the fact that some sagas have them and others don't. They could serve as a great way to sum up everything and point users in the direction of content relevant to each saga, but as it is right now, there's no consistency in which sagas have them. What should we do? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:29, 22 June 2011 (PDT)
:*Good points. In regards to the e-mails, I guess people consider the bulk of the saga the e-mails or IM chats behind them, but perhaps we could rename them to be "Miyamoto Saga e-mails" or "Vanessa Saga chats"? It's probably Clyde's fault, at least for the Miyamoto e-mails. As for the templates, they probably could use cleaning up and the reason why some do and some don't is because people haven't gotten around to doing them for other templates (which can be something you can work on, if you so please). Definitely, make templates for each saga, that'd be a great way to present information. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:46, 23 June 2011 (PDT)
::*Well if you think that's something for me to work on then I suppose I could have a go at it. It'd make a change from all the sonichu shit that I've been doing recently. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:41, 24 June 2011 (PDT)

==The Lawsuit Saga?==
Should we separate most recent and ongoing events from Tomgirl Saga? Since Chandlers' law troubles, not Chris crossdressing interest, are main theme here. [[User:Hasharin|Hasharin]] 17:22, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
* Technically, the lawsuits would be part of the Game Place saga, right? [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 21:26, 5 November 2011 (PDT)

== Individual Saga pages ==

I didn't know where to put this suggestion, so I'm putting it here. I was thinking we can give each Saga its own page. The pages would go into more detail about the saga, a summary of the events, and a listing of videos, emails, etc. in order by date. This serves to make a description about all events in the Saga from beginning to end, as there is none on the CWCki. The closest there is to it is the timeline with all of the years and months, but often times there are events irrelevant to the Saga and events in other Sagas happening. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 16:47, 2 January 2012 (PST)
* EDIT: I noticed there are articles called "Vanessa Saga" and more, but those aren't the type of formats I'm talking about. Those pages are only content dumps, but what I'm talking about is much more organized.
* I made a [[Tomgirl Saga]] page. If there's a problem with it, or if the page is a bad idea, speak now or I'll write pages for the other sagas. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 09:56, 3 January 2012 (PST)
*I still don't think that the whole Tomgirl thing is actually a saga, but I'll let other people debate that as that's mostly my opinion. The thing is, the articles about respective sagas tend to be in the page about the people involved. Like, most of the stuff with the Ivy saga is in the [[Ivy]] page, and the stuff about Liquid is on the [[Liquid Chris]] page. I see what you want to do and it does make sense but I think it might be redundant unless we totally rework these biographical articles so we're not saying the same stuff on two different pages.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:38, 4 January 2012 (PST)
**I think that the question of whether or not every Saga deserves its own individual page should be decided on a case by case basis rather then collectively. I think that starting the article on the Tomgirl Saga was a good idea, but having articles such "Jackie Saga", "Blanca Saga" or "Julie Saga" will be redundant in my opinion. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 06:44, 4 January 2012 (PST)
*** i agree, this page handles the simplified explanations and servers as a nice jumping off point. There is plenty blue here to get you started and if you need details about the saga then read the details linked in blue :)
* I was thinking this myself. Not every saga needs a seperate page but sagas which involved a lot of interaction in the form of Youtube videos between two parties would benefit from a seperate entry. I'm especially thinking of the Liquid Chris/CWCivil war ordeal. One page or a group of pages with the video interaction between the two in chronological order would be very useful. Maybe the Asperchu saga also? I was taking a break from Chris during that period and am still not too clear on the chronology of events. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 09:06, 15 July 2012 (PDT)

== Second Exile saga? ==

Chris hasn't done anything of note lately. His therapist may have banned him from the internet, and is most likely doing his service or playing video games. This may go on for a while, and might be considered a saga.--[[User:Germanicus|Germanicus]] 14:13, 8 October 2012 (PDT)

== Regarding the Catherine Saga ==

I'll put the section back once the Catherine drama goes further. Like Champthom said before that sagas are "taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.", I say wait and see until we can confirm it. Right now, it's still early to claim a new saga. Not to mention sagas are abused to death. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 14:33, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
*I'll just share some comments I made in the chat on the CWCki Forums on the matter. Like I've said, the saga really should just be a tool to provide a narrative to what happens with Chris in specific periods. We probably have what constitutes a saga now - Chris is active on Facebook, he apparently has a girlfriend, he's trying to make money off eBay and Kickstarter, he's claiming to be fully transgendered. I'm inclined to call this "Facebook saga" as I feel the characterization of this saga is Chris's interactions with people on Facebook. It's unusual as we mostly focus on people but I think in this case, it might make sense to focus on the medium and not so much the persons involved. I feel that "Catherine saga" at this point is too narrow - we just have a single video and we're not really sure she's the main impetus behind this revival. To me at least, it seems sorta a side note compared to bigger picture things like Chris finally trying to earn money through his art and embracing transgenderism.
:Ideally, we'd name this after the fact but it's helpful to have a label for us to refer to the events now. Most of the sagas were named after the fact or it was extremely obvious what to name it after - Chris was seeing Ivy, pretty much everything he did involved Ivy, so it made sense to call that the Ivy saga. But we're not really seeing the same thing here with Catherine. We're different from Wikipedia in the sense that you as the users have influence in determining what this is called. In a way, original research is acceptable here mostly because there's not really formal institutions that study autistic manchildren for a living. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 14:41, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
*I have added some details to the Catherine and Sonic sagas, but I think that you are right about combining the Facebook saga point. A good deal of information from Catherine is not really typical trolling, but further information on Chris's condition as a Tomgirl and his general repulsive self. It may be a good idea to combine the two into some sort of saga, rather than having two separate sections.[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 13:30, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

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Kaltenbrunner: /* Regarding the Catherine Saga */

Add the sagas that we have from the [[List of Videos]] page and describe the overarching storylines in each. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 14:09, 19 October 2009 (CEST)
*The current saga should be called the "Revalation" saga. --[[User:14recinez|14recinez]] 15:30, 14 September 2013 (EST)
*i think a visual representation of the sagas would greatly improve the article. a vertical, multi-part image would work quite well, i think, but all ideas are welcome. thoughts? --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 17:09, 19 October 2009 (CEST)
:*A visual representation would be awesome, I'm just not an artsy kind of guy to do that :3. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:53, 19 October 2009 (CEST)
::*Oh, maybe Cogs was thinking like a timeline with shadded parts to indicate sagas and show the overlaps. Very good idea, even I could do that. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:17, 20 October 2009 (CEST)
:*I'll start compiling images for each section. I'll try my best anyway. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:49, 23 October 2009 (CEST)
==Changes==
So basically what I tried to do so far is sum up every saga in 3 images. Is this at all helpful? I can upload colour versions instead if we prefer, but I thought this looked kind of good. I can also put all of them together to make a MEGASAGA sort of image that we can add to as more sagas become apparent. What do we want? Or delete them if you think they are gay. If they are not gay, then I will finish the rest tomorrow. ALSO: I can make a vertically oriented timeline (like from a history book) showing how they progress and overlap. Or horizontally, whatever we want really. Just tell me. For now, I need to sleep. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:25, 24 October 2009 (CEST)

* I actually really like these. [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 03:38, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
:*I like them. Though I think that like, the subject of the saga should be in the center. Like, the Miyamoto saga, Reggie is in the middle when it really should be Miyamoto. If I may recommend one for Liquid, if there was a way to make it look like they're staring down each other, that'd be cool. Otherwise, nice work, I like the general idea. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:47, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
::*Your wish is my command. It is done. I think I got what you wanted for the Liquid saga too... Now what exactly? I can get started on a timeline. I guess I will work on making each subsection more introductory in the text too... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 20:49, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
::*So I have added some detail to give a bit more advanced insight on the sagas for this page. I hope it is helpful. Are there any other sagas that should be here? I assume not. What do we need to add to make this... complete... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:23, 25 October 2009 (CEST)

==Timeline==
[[Image:Timeline.png|right]]
So the timeline you see running here is one I made for this article. Problem, When I run it down the right side of the article it looks funny. At least I think it does. Try it. Should we put it there... or what? I will just work on the actual text of this article until we decide what to do about the imagery. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:33, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
*I haven't heard any opinions on this and they claimed to like it in IRC so I have it running down the right. Revert it if you like. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:41, 25 October 2009 (CET)
:*I like it a lot too. Having it up and down isn't orthodox but it's well suited for the media. Very nice job. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)
*I think it looks great, but I think the information is a bit wrong... the Megan Saga went on through the beginning of 2008 and into the ED and Adam Stackhouse affairs. Hell, there wouldn't be a Stackhouse Saga without Megan. Otherwise, it looks good.
----[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 06:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

==Gregg Mays saga==
Not sure if we should consider it part of Clyde Cash saga but we should consider a Gregg Mays saga to include all this Gregg Mays stuff. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)

==Jack Thaddeus Saga, anyone?==
Or does anyone think it's too early? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 03:42, 2 January 2010 (CET)
* I was about to suggest the same thing. With the [[Kill de Jack|recent]] [[To Clyde and Jack|videos]] aimed at him, the [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call|three]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 2|phone]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 3|calls]] and the CWCipedia ad shenanigans, not to mention [[It's UGH!|previous]] [[Chris humps his PS3|antics]], there seems to be enough material to warrant a new saga. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 05:17, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
** Don't forget about Asperchu in the future. Seeing how dedicated Alec is with it so far (and Jack just started advertising his wiki in CWCipedia), a Saga for that is inevitable! --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 05:32, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
*** And I think it has begun! --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 02:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
**** {{Asperchu}} [[Asperchu]] Saga. You like? --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 02:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
***** Very nice! Now how about Jack, anyone? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 02:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
***** Awesome job on the icon! --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 02:09, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
===Actually...===
Looking at recent edits, someone was adding a "Homosexual ad saga" to this page but it was reverted. While not a proper saga, I'd say it's a sort of mini saga and it's part of the Chris narrative, as it leads into Asperchu saga. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:49, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not sure I'd call the homosexual ads a saga by itself, but part of a CWCipedia saga? I'm certainly not part of the inner circle, but I imagine more hi-jinks involving the CWCipedia are in store. [[User:Chris fangs|Chris fangs]] 21:54, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
*I reverted it. It wasn't a proper saga, no. Even if it could be considered one, the information wasn't presented well enough. I first reverted the changes made to the timeline PNG[http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:Timeline.png], which also wasn't up to par. There could be a lead-in to the Asperchu Saga, sure, but I would vote no on calling it a saga. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
*I re-reverted because you're a huge faggot have a nice day [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]

*Actually, I changed my mind. If someone could make a better, more convincing presentation of it, go ahead. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:*I agree that the presentation on the timeline sucks, and the name "Homosexual ad saga" does as well. I think Chris fangs is onto something about it being called "CWCipedia saga" since in a way, the Mailbag is a way of trolling Chris and CWCipedia in general sorta inadvertently trolls Chris. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:20, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
::*Well, it seems I've angered someone. Not my intentions, to be sure. Anyway, CWCipedia Saga has a nice ring to it and it's relevant, since the Mailbag is certainly a repository of ongoing trolling. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:28, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
::*Champthom, I'll leave it to you to revert the timeline image/Saga page or not. I don't wish to get into a revert war over Chris Chan. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:34, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:::*I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that you're right but so is Nitrocore. The concept of a saga invoking CWCipedia, perhaps call it CWCipedia saga, is good or maybe Jack Thaddeus saga (though I'm aiming at the former) but you are correct in that the write up and the name at the time did kinda suck, and we still need to work on the timeline. For starters, we need to get in touch with the original creator of the timeline or maybe start from scratch. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:58, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
* Ha i win sucker, I actually like "Cwc saga" as well i was just adding stuff(unlike you) if you can combine it and possibly make it better with external links then I'm not bothered [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]
::::*I went with the CWCipedia idea. It's a rough draft, but you get the idea. Nitro, if there is a next time, try not to act like a child. Also, sign your discussion edits with the timestamp. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 00:37, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

==The CWCki Saga, anyone?==

I was going to start this, but decided otherwise unless objects to it, but what we got here is the start of a third saga - CWCki Saga. Chris knows about the CWCki and now he wants to take control of it. You think we should start gathering information on this?--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:19, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*Damn. It's barely 24 hrs in and we are already talking about a saga! I think it is a tad too early to talk about a saga. Outside of "The WallFlower Incident", we got mostly nothing. Let's wait a little to see where it will goes. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:*I agree. Luckily, we'll probably find out two days from now, when his ultimatum gets ignored to death. If nothing comes of it, then nothing comes of it. If he spazzes out and does something really stupid, like threatening legal action or starting an epic edit war, then yeah. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 05:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

==Vanessa Saga==

My old pet project, probably not long or significant enough, but some pretty good videos and logs came from that --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 07:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
*Vanessa saga is one of the unsung tales of the overarching CWC saga and it's sorry that it isn't currently reflected here. However, perhaps now in retrospect it seems more to be part of Ivy saga, though Vanessa saga had dynamic elements and whatnot. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

== more saga sum up images ==

we need a saga image for asperchu (not tito yet) and the cwikipedia saga--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 02:19, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Heres a quick one i made for the game place, just to throw out the idea, can't use it since it doesn't match the others
[[image:Picture_4.png]]

== Tito saga ==

'''In December 2009, Chris released a page from Sonichu 10, which revealed a girl named [[Lovely Weather]]. Many trolls were confused as to why Chris would create a fictional love interest when previous issues used real life girls. The confusion continued when Chris revealed he had a gal-pal during some of his Mailbags.'''

Is it just me or does this seem to suggest that "Lovely Weather" is connected to [[The Wallflower]]? If so, this text is incorrect as Chris didn't meet Wallflower until January at the latest. Srsly guys. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:50, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
* Okay, I'll admit - I wrote that bit when it seemed like there was a connection between Weather and Wallflower. I'll alter it so it won't seem that way.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 13:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

==IRL Saga?==

It might be too early for this, but if he keeps up these public creeper antics, methinks an "IRL Saga" would be appropriate. --[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 16:12, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
* I always thought it would be better to call everything that's happened since he "left" the Internet the "CWC Exile Saga". But, still, IRL Saga's just as good.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 16:24, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
**How about 'Reality Saga'? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:48, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
***If we're going to do that, we might as well include the Love Quest as a saga, since this sounds pretty much like a repeat of those events. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 17:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
**** I understand the reasoning behind that, though a good chunk of the Love Quest happened online within specific sagas. Personally, the only issue I would see with such a saga (CWC Exile is a great title) is that it overlaps with The GAMe PLACe and the last bit of Surfshack Tito.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 01:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
***** I think, in a technical level, we're between sagas. We just simply have to wait and see what damn fool thing he does next. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 02:06, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== Flipnote Hatena saga ==

Does it count as one yet? He's slowly cracking at the seams, and it could get worse. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 20:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
*It looks like it might form a saga as he goes along and breaks more Flipnote Waptena rules, so it's plausible. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 21:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
**Of course he's banned from uploading anything now. I think it was a bit short to count as a saga. A bit uneventful too, though that's just my thoughts on it. If everyone else thinks it could be considered it's own saga... Go for it.--[[User:Yoyoddd|Yoyoddd]] 10:07, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
***I look at this a bit like the Tito saga; very little actually was done to Chris, but it was his response to what happened that made it a saga. We have to wait and see how he reacts to the ban to see whether it's worthy or not. That's just my two cents though. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 10:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
****Maybe we should put "interim activities" as a separate category; nothing that fits the criteria for saga but still somewhat noteworthy. Chris being "off the internet" and on flipnote for a month could merit that. That way we could still fill out the periods between major sagas. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 14:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
*****Even if it doesn't count as a full-fledged "Saga" it was a pretty crazy two weeks. I'm not sure if he'll return to youtube as a result of his banning, but I'm sure he'll cap off the whole thing with an enraged complaint ''somewhere''.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 15:41, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

==PS3 Saga?==

Before somebody already points it out, I know that the few destruction videos he put up doesn't count as a saga. I'm wondering if we should make a saga for the activities that lead to it's destruction. There's a lot of juicy info I'd like to catalog, but I don't know if it's officially over yet or not (And i also don't want to disrupt any trolling plans that may still be in motion). --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 15:04, 17 September 2010 (PDT)

==Missing Sagas==
Why aren't the sagas caused by [[Vanessa_Saga|Joshua Martinez]] included on the saga list?
*1) please sign your posts (it's four ~ in a row) 2) the stuff from Joshua Martinez is really part of Ivy saga. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

==On Sagas==
This isn't picking on anything that's going on here, but I was thinking and I think the term "saga" gets abused - not so much on here, mind you, but elsewhere but I think it sometimes spills over to the CWCki.

What is a saga? Like the article says, it's an overarching story in the life and times of Chris. For instance, let's take Miyamoto saga, which, also as the article says, what really started the whole "saga" thing. You have Chris and "Miyamoto" talking to each other over several weeks, and there's conflict between the two, then there's Reggie who gets involved, and then there's all the videos inbetween. If you watch a video from the saga without the context the saga arch provides, you're missing out on a lot. They're all intertwined, the content that is, and that's what the saga theme is all about, taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.

So what does this mean? You calling Chris is not "You calling Chris saga." Chris dressing up as a woman is not "Tomgirl saga." Seeing Chris at the mall is not "Chris at the mall saga." Chris does stuff, it doesn't need to fit in part of a narrative. It's sorta a chapter in the overarching saga that is Chris's life, but not a saga in itself. Secondly, I don't think sagas are really made. I think people expect to troll Chris and want some place on this page, wanting their own "Gigantic Attention Whore saga." Pretty much every saga wasn't intended to be a saga, it's not like they planned this all out, it's just going with the flow and it happens to have narrative to it.

I had more but I forgot what else I was going to say. But hopefully this will make sense and serve as a guide to what is a saga and what isn't, so much as how it should be included on the page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

*Actually, while we're talking about sagas, I'd like to ask for a bit of clarification on how saga related articles are named. Recent sagas for instance are just documented in the article on the appropriate person. The article on the Ivy Saga is called [[Ivy]] and the article on the Liquid Saga is called [[Liquid Chris]]. But then there are articles which are literally called [[Miyamoto Saga]] or [[Vanessa Saga]], which are full of emails just dumped there incomprehensibly. And this is in spite of there actually being articles for [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] and [[Vanessa Hudgens]]. Don't get me wrong, I realize the need to keep the crap ton of emails separate from the main articles, but the naming convention is just odd. I'm not quite sure, but I'm willing to bet it's Clyde's fault. What is the official policy on naming saga articles? Should they all be named as "X" or as "X Saga"? And while we're on it, some sagas have a weird little template documenting all things related to them. Two I can name are [[:Template:BlancaSaga]] and [[:Template:MeganSaga]]. I don't think they're bad. They could use a little cleanup, but I do have a problem with the fact that some sagas have them and others don't. They could serve as a great way to sum up everything and point users in the direction of content relevant to each saga, but as it is right now, there's no consistency in which sagas have them. What should we do? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:29, 22 June 2011 (PDT)
:*Good points. In regards to the e-mails, I guess people consider the bulk of the saga the e-mails or IM chats behind them, but perhaps we could rename them to be "Miyamoto Saga e-mails" or "Vanessa Saga chats"? It's probably Clyde's fault, at least for the Miyamoto e-mails. As for the templates, they probably could use cleaning up and the reason why some do and some don't is because people haven't gotten around to doing them for other templates (which can be something you can work on, if you so please). Definitely, make templates for each saga, that'd be a great way to present information. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:46, 23 June 2011 (PDT)
::*Well if you think that's something for me to work on then I suppose I could have a go at it. It'd make a change from all the sonichu shit that I've been doing recently. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:41, 24 June 2011 (PDT)

==The Lawsuit Saga?==
Should we separate most recent and ongoing events from Tomgirl Saga? Since Chandlers' law troubles, not Chris crossdressing interest, are main theme here. [[User:Hasharin|Hasharin]] 17:22, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
* Technically, the lawsuits would be part of the Game Place saga, right? [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 21:26, 5 November 2011 (PDT)

== Individual Saga pages ==

I didn't know where to put this suggestion, so I'm putting it here. I was thinking we can give each Saga its own page. The pages would go into more detail about the saga, a summary of the events, and a listing of videos, emails, etc. in order by date. This serves to make a description about all events in the Saga from beginning to end, as there is none on the CWCki. The closest there is to it is the timeline with all of the years and months, but often times there are events irrelevant to the Saga and events in other Sagas happening. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 16:47, 2 January 2012 (PST)
* EDIT: I noticed there are articles called "Vanessa Saga" and more, but those aren't the type of formats I'm talking about. Those pages are only content dumps, but what I'm talking about is much more organized.
* I made a [[Tomgirl Saga]] page. If there's a problem with it, or if the page is a bad idea, speak now or I'll write pages for the other sagas. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 09:56, 3 January 2012 (PST)
*I still don't think that the whole Tomgirl thing is actually a saga, but I'll let other people debate that as that's mostly my opinion. The thing is, the articles about respective sagas tend to be in the page about the people involved. Like, most of the stuff with the Ivy saga is in the [[Ivy]] page, and the stuff about Liquid is on the [[Liquid Chris]] page. I see what you want to do and it does make sense but I think it might be redundant unless we totally rework these biographical articles so we're not saying the same stuff on two different pages.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:38, 4 January 2012 (PST)
**I think that the question of whether or not every Saga deserves its own individual page should be decided on a case by case basis rather then collectively. I think that starting the article on the Tomgirl Saga was a good idea, but having articles such "Jackie Saga", "Blanca Saga" or "Julie Saga" will be redundant in my opinion. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 06:44, 4 January 2012 (PST)
*** i agree, this page handles the simplified explanations and servers as a nice jumping off point. There is plenty blue here to get you started and if you need details about the saga then read the details linked in blue :)
* I was thinking this myself. Not every saga needs a seperate page but sagas which involved a lot of interaction in the form of Youtube videos between two parties would benefit from a seperate entry. I'm especially thinking of the Liquid Chris/CWCivil war ordeal. One page or a group of pages with the video interaction between the two in chronological order would be very useful. Maybe the Asperchu saga also? I was taking a break from Chris during that period and am still not too clear on the chronology of events. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 09:06, 15 July 2012 (PDT)

== Second Exile saga? ==

Chris hasn't done anything of note lately. His therapist may have banned him from the internet, and is most likely doing his service or playing video games. This may go on for a while, and might be considered a saga.--[[User:Germanicus|Germanicus]] 14:13, 8 October 2012 (PDT)

== Regarding the Catherine Saga ==

I'll put the section back once the Catherine drama goes further. Like Champthom said before that sagas are "taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.", I say wait and see until we can confirm it. Right now, it's still early to claim a new saga. Not to mention sagas are abused to death. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 14:33, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
*I'll just share some comments I made in the chat on the CWCki Forums on the matter. Like I've said, the saga really should just be a tool to provide a narrative to what happens with Chris in specific periods. We probably have what constitutes a saga now - Chris is active on Facebook, he apparently has a girlfriend, he's trying to make money off eBay and Kickstarter, he's claiming to be fully transgendered. I'm inclined to call this "Facebook saga" as I feel the characterization of this saga is Chris's interactions with people on Facebook. It's unusual as we mostly focus on people but I think in this case, it might make sense to focus on the medium and not so much the persons involved. I feel that "Catherine saga" at this point is too narrow - we just have a single video and we're not really sure she's the main impetus behind this revival. To me at least, it seems sorta a side note compared to bigger picture things like Chris finally trying to earn money through his art and embracing transgenderism.
:Ideally, we'd name this after the fact but it's helpful to have a label for us to refer to the events now. Most of the sagas were named after the fact or it was extremely obvious what to name it after - Chris was seeing Ivy, pretty much everything he did involved Ivy, so it made sense to call that the Ivy saga. But we're not really seeing the same thing here with Catherine. We're different from Wikipedia in the sense that you as the users have influence in determining what this is called. In a way, original research is acceptable here mostly because there's not really formal institutions that study autistic manchildren for a living. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 14:41, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
*I have added some details to the Catherine and Sonic sagas, but I think that you are right about combining the Facebook saga point. A good deal of information from Catherine is not really typical trolling, but further information on Chris's condition as a Tomgirl and his general repulsive self. It may be a good idea to combine the two into some sort of saga, rather than having two separate sections.

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{{Quote|I've had online relationships in my past; most of which were good, but all of them ended not so good for me.|Chris makes the understatement of the century<ref>[[Sydney Kirsch]]</ref>}}
A '''saga''' (from the Old Norse ''sögur'') is an overall story arc of events.

In the world of [[Christian Weston Chandler]], the term is used to describe an on-going trolling effort or other similar series of events that produces considerable drama over a period of time. Sometimes taking place over the course of months, other times taking place over the course of a few weeks. Since he was discovered online and found to have many hot buttons that made him susceptible to entrapment, Chris has been perpetually embroiled in some saga or other. More often than not, he is trapped in more than one saga at a time or found to be quickly jumping from the end of one to the beginning of the next. The term first came into widespread use with the [[Miyamoto Saga]] and has since been used to describe the overall events in a time period (similar to the term "dynasty").

The exact origin of the term "saga" being used to refer to these events in Chris's life is, as of yet, unknown. However, some argue that the usage may have originated with [[Vivian Gee]]'s [[Audiobook|audiobook]] project.

==List of Sagas : Pre 1st Exile==

===Megan Saga (''Summer 2005 - 18 March 2008'')===
[[Image:Megansagaheader.jpg]]

{{main|Megan Schroeder}}

The first and longest saga in the story of Christian Weston Chandler. From 2005 to 18 March 2008, this told the story of Chris and his longest and closest relationship with a girl, Megan Schroeder, leading into Chris's first encounter with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] and Megan discovering the depths of Chris's madness. It began with a chance meeting at a ''[[Pokémon]] TCG'' League meeting at [[The GAMe PLACe]], which progressed into inappropriate touching and ended with shocking [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|hand-drawn pornography]] that was an embarrassment for all parties involved...excluding Chris.

===Adam Stackhouse Saga (''June 2007 - 4 August 2007'')===
[[Image:Adamsaga.jpg]]

: ''See also: [[Adam Stackhouse]], [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown]]''

In June 2007, Chris entered and attempted to win a contest in order to win Megan's heart, only to be <s>cockblocked</s> beaten by a much superior entry made by Adam Stackhouse. The saga resulted in [[CWC is Angry|madman]]-style threats and [[PaRappa_contest#Aftermath|several angry e-mails and posts to contest organizers]]. Chris would rage for quite some time before deciding enough was enough. This was also the last time a saga was inadvertently caused by an unsuspecting member of the public. From this time on, [[trolls]] would control the content.

===ED Saga (''November 2007 - 14 April 2011'')===
[[Image:Edsaga.jpg]]

: ''See also: [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]''

In November 2007, [[trolls]] would discover Chris and put up the "Chris-chan" page on [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]. Chris would initially think that they just got information wrong, but as time would go on, Chris would reveal the true depths of his insanity, destroying his friendship with Megan Schroeder and becoming the epic lolcow we know him to be. Were it not for this article showing how susceptible he was to trolling and how [[Autism|divinely retarded]] he could be, Chris may have just been another dumbass with no life, and probably would have been more or less forgotten by now. To this day, ED remains a thorn in his side which he must constantly address to those new to his life. Further to this, he still maintains they are out to do him harm.

===Blanca Saga (''August 2008 - 21 October 2008'')===
[[Image:Blancasaga.jpg]]

{{main|Blanca Weiss}}

Around August 2008, Chris would meet Blanca Weiss, making her his first Internet sweetheart. Aside from being the first sweetheart, she also proved how [[Captain's Log, Stardate September 13th, 2008|tenacious and strange]] Chris could be about relationships, revealing several [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 9th, 2008|quirks and oddities that he felt were somehow appropriate to mention]] to someone he believed loved him. It also showed how useless any [[White knight|white knighting]] efforts could be. In the span of two months, Blanca (actually three trolls working in tandem) would release the infamous pictures of Chris naked, then obtain and destroy Chris's [[Medallion of Fail|medallions]].

===Jimmy Hill Saga (''mid/late 2008'')===
[[Image:Jimmyhillsaga.jpg]]

{{main|Jimmy Hill}}

At the same time Chris was dealing with Blanca, he was hit with another troll attack as he believed that a man known as Jimmy Hill was using the Sonichu name and character to make money off of him in Europe. The thought of someone making money from his true and original creation led him to [[Captain's Log, Stardate Columbus Day, 2008|stress out and provide proof]] of the [[Copyright|infringement]]. Those attacks would end around the same time the Blanca Saga ended.

===Clyde Cash Saga ''(December 2008 - 2012 (however it might be still going on)''===
[[Image:Clydesaga.jpg]]

{{main|Clyde Cash}}

In an attempt to get back at Chris for his [[Ryan Cash|brother's suicide]], Clyde Cash would go on a months-long trolling spree, going to great lengths to get back at the autistic wonder. The saga would result in the revelation of a [[The Miscreants|top secret organization]] hellbent on preventing the manchild from losing his virginity. It only ended with the apparent death of its creator.

However, in [[September 2009]] Chris resumed his war against Clyde Cash after discovering that he and another supposed troll, [[Gregg Mays]], were one and the same person. In the process, he's made numerous videos attempting to blackmail the man, going so far as to mock a [[Twin Falling Towers|national tragedy]].

And so it continues to this date; a never-ending conflict between two mortal enemies...

===PandaHalo Saga (''mid/late 2008 - February 2009'')===
[[Image:Pandasaga.jpg]]

{{main|PandaHalo}}

When Chris realized Blanca was a troll, he would move on to PandaHalo as his new sweetheart. The saga came to a quick and abrupt end when she was found to be bearing the child of Clyde Cash, conceived through rape. Unsurprisingly, Chris would quickly abandon Panda and she would (presumably) die in the Australian brushfires, despite living miles away from the incident. She would end up giving trolls the [[Scrapbook of Fail]] and [[Slideshow]].

===Miyamoto Saga (''January 2009 - 10 February 2009'')===
[[Image:Miyamotosaga.jpg]]

{{main|Miyamoto Saga}}

In the beginning of January 2009, Chris would be confronted by <s>[[Clyde Cash|a troll]]</s> [[Shigeru Miyamoto]], who would attempt to try to make his ''Sonichu'' game fantasy a reality. Chris's ineptitude and inability to do...well...anything other than be a lazy fuck resulted in horrible delays and stalls to the project's advancement. In the end, [[Reggie Fils-Aimé]] shut down the entire project with a scathing letter. This trolling encounter would have Chris give trolls a PowerPoint project that talked in great length about [[Chris and his ego|himself]]...and very little about his game.

===Julie Saga (''February 2009 - March 2009'')===
[[Image:Juliesaga.jpg]]

{{main|Julie}}

In February 2009 to early March 2009, Chris's latest sweetheart would be Julie, who was in actuality a young troll named [[BlueSpike]]. In this brief timeframe, BlueSpike would release the infamous [[sex tape]], force Chris to declare [[BILLY MAYS]] mayor of [[CWCville]] and destroy his second medallion by forcing him to stick it up his ass. However, BlueSpike's total and utter control over Chris would lead to a schism between trolls, leading to the creation of the [[PVCC (message board)|PVCC]] and this very wiki.

===Ivy Saga (''March 2009 - July 2009'')===
[[Image:Ivysaga.jpg]]

{{main|Ivy}}

In March 2009, Chris would meet and fall in love with Ivy, his then-latest sweetheart. His crush towards Ivy would lead Chris to create three special comics and two music videos, a practical spurt of work that wouldn't be surpassed for awhile. The saga also revealed Chris at his [[I am devoted to My Sweetest Ivy|creepiest]] [[CWC's Message for Ivy|yet]], scarring many trolls and CWC-watchers. The saga also resulted in a [[CWC's ¨It's All Coming Back To Me¨|proposal of marriage]]. Despite the work spurt, the saga would come to an abrupt end thanks to a combination of troll interference from [[Joshua Martinez]] and interference from [[Bob Chandler]] and [[Rocky Shoemaker]], leading to Ivy's suicide.

===Liquid Chris Saga (''June 21, 2009 - 10 November 2009'')===
[[Image:Liquidsaga.jpg]]

{{main|Liquid Chris}}

In July 2009, the TRUE and HONEST Christian Weston Chandler would come forth after the other Chris would reveal himself as a troll in one video. The other Chris, [[Ian Brandon Anderson]], would challenge Chris to a sing-off, with the TRUE and HONEST CWC proving himself the victor in the end. The appearance of this other Chris would pressure the other into churning out more comics than he had before, currently heading for the completion of [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]], something that many believed would never happen due to the interference of many trolls.

Later, Liquid would return to continue on his quest to get rid of this faker. In the process of this new entry to the saga, Ian and Chris would battle over the heart of Chris's true love, [[Kacey]]. In the end, the real Chris would win out and marry Kacey, leaving Ian to be butthurt. Liquid's YouTube account would eventually close on 27 July, 2011.

===CWCipedia Saga (''4 May 2009 – 26 June 2010'')===
[[Image:The CWCipedia Saga.jpg]]

{{main|CWCipedia}}

In early June 2009, Chris was given the CWCipedia, a wiki-styled web page, so that Chris can use it to upload his ''Sonichu'' comics, blog, and personal life safe from the trolls who instantly dive at his other web pages and hack them. It doubled as a source for the [[CWCki]] to draw many of Chris's latest failures from, making it his best friend and his worst enemy.

On 19 [[November 2009]], perhaps one of the greatest features the wiki introduced was the [[Mailbag]], in which a dump of all [[Fans|fan]] e-mails sent to the admin's address could be answered by Chris, for all to see. This feature provided insight into how Chris responds to trolls through e-mail about his views on, for example, homosexuality, GodJesus, autism, etc.

Since 23 November 2009, advertisements linking to porn sites, gay rights organizations, information on Asperger's syndrome, and the [[Asperchu|Asperpedia]] took residence on the CWCipedia, paid for by trolls. Eventually, Alec, the creator of Asperchu, paid Jack Thaddeus to replace most, if not all, of the ads with ads for Asperpedia. Chris had [[Address to my Cwcipedia SysOp|complained]] [[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence|repeatedly]] to the SysOp of the Wiki about these ads, which would have paid for the site until the end of 2010, pending negotiations.<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=User_talk:ChrisChanSonichu</ref> All of this had "stressed" Chris out to the point of uploading videos of himself screaming [[death threats]] upon the advertisers' heads, and creating a separate, stress-free, ad-free front page.

This saga would lead to the site being shut down twice in a row, both due to copyright infringement, and would lead to the death of [[Simonla Rosechu]] in the most humiliating way - death by exploding toilet.

The Asperpedia team would continue to vandalize and hijack CWCipedia in a variety of ways until it finally collapsed in May, and Chris finally abandoned the site after already making numerous claims that he'd quit the Internet forever. After Mao moved in to fill the void, he passed ownership to [[Alec]] and [[Vivian Gee]], wherein they took over the site and the rights to Sonichu to begin ''Sonichu'' Season 2, where ultimately, on 26 [[June 2010]], the entire site would be terminated along with the entirety of the original 110mb server.

===Asperchu Saga (''November 2009 - 30 August 2011'')===
[[Image:The Asperchu Saga.jpg]]

{{main|Asperchu}}

In late November 2009, an artist named Alec Benson Leary started a new series called ''Asperchu'', starring the titular Electric Asperger's Hedgehog Pokemon. Chris had spent most of December ignoring ''Asperchu'' and its popularity before finally exploding with rage, claiming the series as nothing more than fan fiction and a parody. The popularity of ''Asperchu'', combined with Chris's continuing downward spiral that is [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], has led many of Chris's fans to abandon ''Sonichu'' and go to ''Asperchu''.

Most of the saga has been spent with Chris raging at not just Alec, but also [[Evan]], Sean, and Asperpedia admin Mao over their usage of their characters and how they mock him. As well, Chris has been dealing with Evan over the usage of Simonla Rosechu, with Chris going so far as to deny reality and substitute it with his own.

In terms of productivity, it has given us ''Sonichu'' #10, which showcases Chris going all out in trying to get rid of everything he hates, including homosexuality and trolls. In that same book, Chris kills all four trolls involved in this saga as retaliation for making him kill Simonla Rosechu. Also, [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Calls|nine phone calls]] have been leaked. These phone calls show Alec attempting to get through to Chris and his way of thinking and Chris fighting tooth and nail not to change at all.

In the aftermath of the saga, Evan ceased his ''Simonchu'' comic, proud to have Simonla removed, Alec and Sean continued their respective comics, and Mao continues to poke and jab at Chris. And while the saga had for the most part died down, Asperpedia continued to harass its rival CWCipedia, either by placing new ads, vandalizing it, or shutting it down altogether. One of the post-trial ads even precipitated Chris's falling out with [[Jackie e-mails|Jackie]].

Alec Benson Leary would later be [[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher|called out]] by Chris in 2011, and is identity was "revealed" as Christopher Paul Whitney, followed by Chris [[Chris and Health|sloppily devouring a cheap microwavable pizza]].

===Surfshack Tito Saga (''2 March 2010 - 10 August 2011'')===
[[Image:The Surfshack Tito Saga.jpg]]

{{Main|Surfshack Tito}}

Sometime in January 2010, Chris met and fell in love with a certain girl in real life, hoping she would be the one who'd end his streak of being a [[virgin with rage]]. On 9 March 2010, Chris would release a ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]'' video of a stage based off a book he was helping write with his gal-pal...and release a name in the process. Dedicated trolls used the information to discover the gal-pal's identity, but decided to let the [[lulz]] spread naturally. The next day, however, a troll revealed the information to the gal-pal, codenamed [[The Wallflower]], and while one set of lulz was stopped, another one was set into motion.

The troll, calling himself Surfshack Tito, claimed responsibility for not only hacking his PSN accounts for the umpteenth time, but also stealing The Wallflower from Chris. Chris, in response, has threatened to go all out and seemingly try to murder Tito, threatening him with a [[pocket knife]], attacking him with [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|racial slurs]], and flashing his [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|underwear]] in the process. At the same time, Chris has discovered and declared war on the CWCki, demanding that all pages involving himself, his friends and family be altered to suit his needs. In short order, Chris's attack on the CWCki fell utterly short.

The creativity here has been utterly stunted, especially after The Wallflower left him. He has gone on to blame his fans for wanting him to make more comics and compared them to the trolls that have tormented him. He has also vowed to leave the Internet forever, though he ended up reshowing his face 36 hours after his vow...

Echoes of this saga would be eventually heard in [[August 2011]] when, after announcing his glorious comeback to the Internet, Chris claimed to have discovered the true identity of Tito and tried to blackmail him using this information. Tito eventually [[Calling Out "Tito" - Don#Tito's official response|gave in]] to his demands on 9 August, which Chris [[Re: Don, and ReCalling Out "Thorg" - Jeremy|later acknowledged and accepted]].

=== The GAMe PLACe Saga (''pre-2005 - April 2013'')===

[[File:Game Place.jpg]]

{{main|The GAMe PLACe|Michael Snyder}}

For a long time, Chris had been visiting The GAMe PLACe on a regular basis. It was here that Chris would meet Megan herself, as well as [[Lucas]] and [[Mimms]], two people who would deliver a number of intel over Chris during his time there. He also participated in the ''[[Pokemon TCG]]'' League, using his own poorly made decks. However, Chris was a pain to the store's manager, [[Michael Snyder]] and by August 2008, tired of Chris terrorizing various [[niggos|patrons]], yelling at children, bogarting the TV and being an all-round pain. Michael would finally ban Chris from the store, embarrassing him and his mother in the process. It wouldn't be the end, however.

On multiple occasions, Chris returned to the store despite Michael's insistence that he never come back. He tried emails, sneaking in, [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place|pleading]] on [[YouTube]], but nothing worked. The first time he attempted (unsuccessfully, of course) to lift his ban in person was with a prepared, [[Chris and remorse|faux-apologetic speech]]. When that failed, he stormed out angrily and called Michael a [[Chris and race|JEW]], then attempted to rally his "fanbase" and get them [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|to troll him]]. [[6 June 2010|The next occasion]] was much more disturbing. He claimed he was trying to take a picture of Michael for a dartboard, but was caught in the act and was chased in the parking lot. Nearly running over Michael and his daughter, eventually the [[Jerkops]] got involved, but they did not arrest him. Michael accused him of trying to take [[pedofork|pictures of his daughter]]. Whether it's true or not, it's [[Kacey|confirmed]] that Chris has stalker tendencies.

The saga was revived in October 2011, when Chris and [[Barb|his mother]] visited the GAMe PLACe, and [[28 October 2011|an incident occurred]]. Exact details of events remain unknown, but charges such as assaulting a law enforcement official and property damage of more than $1000 were brought. Barbara was sentenced to community service and two years of probation. Chris was sentenced to community service, one year of probation, and mandatory [[Chris and Reality|psychiatric]] treatment and evaluation. They must also pay Michael Snyder's medical expenses.

Being the longest saga to date, it's little wonder why [[Barb]] believes it's at the center of all the trolling.

Finally, On 4 [[April 2013]], Chris posted on [[Facebook]], ''"I, Christian Weston Chandler, fully never ever, forever, want to have anything to do with the Game and Hobby PLace."'' It remains to be seen whether he will follow through. However, it could be a ''geinus'' plan to lull [[Michael Snyder]] into a false sense of security. It appears, however the saga may be over for good. At least for now.

==1st Exile Sagas==

===The CWC Exile Saga (''20 March 2010 - 29 August 2010'')===

[[File:Exile.jpg]]

{{main|Rocky Shoemaker|Fridays After Five|Flipnote Hatena}}

After Chris lost The Wallflower and fought with Surfshack Tito, an outside force attempted to push Chris away from the Internet. No less than five times, Chris has boldly claimed that he has abandoned the Internet and smugly told his detractors that they should go outside and live their lives, advice Chris should have followed ''years'' ago. However, Chris still latched onto the Internet as much as he could, trying to find ways to sneak in without the force discovering him.

Trolls would end up discovering Chris dancing like a dying turkey at [[Fridays After Five]], then discover that he had set up shop at the [[Flipnote Hatena]], where he tried to spread his sick and twisted thoughts to younger, innocent people before being shut down. However, the thing that would finally bring Chris back to the Internet and end his exile would be [[The MovingForward videos|the destruction of his beloved Life Upgrade]]. At his own hands, no less!

==Post 1st Exile/Pre 2nd Exile==

===Jackie Saga (''April 5, 2010 - November 26, 2010'')===
[[Image:JackieSaga.jpg]]

{{main|Jackie}}

Following the fallout of The Wallflower incident, Chris pulled himself away from the Internet, only for him to meet and begin conversing to a woman named Jackie. Meeting her at [[The Hook Cafe|''The HooK'' Café]], the two began conversing through [[Jackie Emails|e-mails]], revealing the rationale in Chris's attempts to get back into The GAMe PLACe and showing [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV|he's still incredibly disturbing]]. However, Chris broke off his relationship with her after she attempted to get him to change his life for the better.

Around [[September 2010]], Jackie and Chris were confirmed to have attempted to try again with a relationship, with Chris creating [[100_2265|even]] [[ECV 00002|more]] [[Pregnant Act|disturbing]] [[Don'tPintheOop|videos]] in the process. A third party - [[Lars]] McNulty, Jackie's ex-boyfriend - stepped in by the end of September, prompting Chris to release several videos attacking his newfound enemy. Video updates became increasingly bizarre, but still occurred regularly until the end of [[October 2010|October]].

By [[November 2010|November]], the leaked correspondence showed that Jackie was getting increasing impatient as Chris kept failing to fulfill her requests, while Chris made up a lot of lame excuses for why he could not deliver on them, all while continuously begging Jackie to have sex with him. On November 26, Jackie would send Chris the latest in a string of e-mails in which she criticized him for his laziness and unwillingness when it came to pay a more active part in relationships, and how he, despite of this, kept begging her for sex. Chris stopped responding at this point, putting an end to the saga.

===[[Tomgirl Saga]] (''28 April 2011 - present'')===
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{{main|Tomgirl Saga|Tomgirl Pictures}}

In mid-2011, Chris's exile from the Internet continued, and his mental state deteriorated. Some leaked evidence of [[Wikipedia:Transvestitism|transvestitism]] surfaced in [[April 2011|April]], and later joined the [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]] forum, where his posts showed that Chris and sanity were only vague acquaintances. However, when Chris found out he was discovered on the forums, he decided to fight back by [[Calling Out]] various [[trolls]], demanding that they apologize and leave the Internet or they would have their information revealed and be trolled in return. He managed to drive away Surfshack Tito, before the saga was seemingly derailed by the death of his father, [[Bob]]. However, as of 2014, Chris is once again openly cross-dressing, against Barb's wishes.

===Catherine Saga (''9 July 2014 - 14 December 2014'')===
{{main|2014 Anonymous Sweetheart|Catherine E-mails|Catherine}}

With his newly acquired feminine wiles from his transition to Tomgirl, Chris managed to attract a Sweetheart who would be his first lesbian romance. In the summer of 2014, Chris would reveal he had found a new Sweetheart, whose identity he managed, surprisingly, to conceal for period of time. Later, he would [[I Love You, Catherine|reveal]] that her name was Catherine, which would suggest, due to the proximity between revelations, that the Anonymous Sweetheart had been Catherine all along. Predictably, Catherine turned out to be troll, who revealed much about Chris having met with him twice. According to Catherine, his [[Catherine#The Date|behavior had not improved]] since the sexual harassment in the early days of the Megan Saga, and neither had the Chandlers's [[Rental House|comprehension of basic sanitation]]. In addition to Catherine's observation on her personal encounters, Chris also announced he had got a piercing on his [[Un-clit|perineum]], meaning this Saga provides some more detail on Chris's disturbing new features as a Tomgirl.

===Sonic Boom Saga (''3 September 2014 - present'')===
{{main|Sonic Boom Protests}}
This Saga began with Chris grumbling on [[Facebook]] about the announcement of the latest [[Sonic]] game, [[Wikipedia: Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric|Sonic Boom]]. Chris wasn't alone in his discontent; many of his Facebook friends expressed disapproval about the deteriorating quality of the Sonic games. What made Chris [[autism|unique]] in his irritation, is that the fact that Chris took umbrage at the fact Sonic's arms had been changed from flesh-colored to blue.

This baffled most of his [[White Knights]], with [[William Elliott Waterman]] trying to explain just how ludicrous Chris's demands to Sega to revert back to blue were, especially considering Sonic Boom was not part of the Sonic canon. The fact that Sega had no control in the design of Sonic's arms did not deter him and, thanks to his White Knights who unwaveringly encouraged him, he began to protest. Initially, his protest against the "Blue-Armed Bandit", took the form of Facebook boycott groups, petitions, and [[Death Threats|angry messages]] on Sega facebook pages.

On [[26 December 2014|Boxing day]], however, this Saga came into bloom, culminating in Chris's [[28 October 2011| second pending court case]]. Despite warnings from even his most loyal White Knights, Chris had decided to take it upon himself to bring the protest into the real world. He went into his local GameStops and vandalized the display cases, including stores he had [[List of places that have banned Chris|previously been banned from]]. It was during his visit to one of these stores that had banned Chris that resulted in his arrest on boxing day. Chris had been seen and asked to leave by the [[manajerks|managment]]. After initially ignoring their requests he made his way towards the exist and, whilst on the way out, he maced an employee, who had not been involved in his removal. As a result, Chris spent the weekend in jail, and, having got [[Barb]] to bail him out, awaits trial on the 5th of [[February 2015]].

==The Future==
If anything remains clear, it is that Chris is incapable of applying past events to current ones. Given this, it is likely that Chris will be enduring one saga or another until the day he dies.

==See also==
*''[[Excel Saga]]''

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Trolling]]
[[Category: Sagas]]

2007

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[[Image:0940-CWCsAppreaciation.JPG|thumb|Chris in '''2007'''.]]
[[Image:S2007.JPG|thumb|Graph showing the Google-popularity of the terms ''Sonichu'' (blue) and ''Christian Weston Chandler'' (red). 2007 is marked in [[Yellow Is a Mellow Color|Mellow Yellow]].]]
[[Image:ShecameforCWC (200803).JPG|thumb|In protest to 2007's creation of the [[ED]] page, he draws himself fingerfucking his best friend.]]
[[Image:063-2-CWCDVDWholeMaster.jpg|thumb|On '''11 February 2007''', Chris made this.]]
[[Image:SoulCalibur3box.jpg|thumb| On '''8 May 2007''', [[MLW]] gets it in [[Soul Calibur|SCIII]].]]
[[Image:CWCinDailyProgressJuly142007.jpg|thumb|'''July 2007''']]
[[Image:Chrischannov2007.jpg|thumb|On '''26 October 2007''', this picture is taken at [[The GAMe PLACe]].]]
[[Image:MaryWantsIt.JPG|thumb|One of the images Chris drew on '''11 November 2007'''.]]

'''The year we made contact.'''

The second half of the year '''2007''' shows some important developments within [[Christian Weston Chandler]]'s life.

Firstly, Chris enters and loses the [[PaRappa the Rapper Contest]], leaving him disillusioned and enraged.

Secondly, he discovers a satirical page written about him on [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]. These two injustices lead Chris into a bitter, long and frustrated [[rage]], eventually giving spark to certain deep, complex and mysterious aspects of madness within his person, that, when revealed, would prove to be a decisive factor leading to obsessive [[troll]]ing in [[2008]].

==Events of 2007==

===February===
* February 11 - Christian makes the cover for his [[Chris's DVD|"I'm on TV" DVD]].
* February 19 - Christian starts making the slideshow for his DVD.
* February 21 - Chris sends [[Chris emails 2007#February|an email]] to [[Virginia Jeanine Sanford|Ms. Sanford]], his middle school teacher, telling her about how his life has been.
* February 22 - Christian finishes the slideshow.
* February 24 - Christian's 25th birthday.
* February 24 - Chris releases his [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|"future message"]].

===March===
* March 5 - Chris draws (the cover of) ''[[Sonichu 7|Sonichu #7]]''.
* March 6 - In response to an email from Chris about the DVD, [[Cole Smithey]] expresses his disdain for [[Barbara]] and [[Bob]].
* March 6 - Chris cashes in his first [[My Coke Rewards]] points, beginning a campaign that will see him consume more than 2500 bottles worth of Coke.
* March 17 - Chris realizes that he is able to afford a 60GB Playstation 3, so he goes out and invests in one.
* March 26 - Chris posts to his [[PSN Blogs]], complaining about the [[PS3]].
* March 29 - Chris makes a few more posts to his PSN Blogs, leaving some of the same complaints he did on the 26th.

===April===
* April 24 - ''[[Pokémon]] Diamond and Pearl'' are released in the US.
* April 26 - Chris posts to his [[PSN Blogs]], claiming he is looking forward to the [[Adult Swim]] games featuring the [[Aqua Teen Hunger Force]] and [[Harvey Birdman]].
* April 30 - Megan tells Chris for the umpteenth time to stop touching her, and says she is only a little annoyed.

===May===
* May 8 - Christian creates his first [[YouTube]] account.
* May 8 - Christian uploads a video of him beating up [[Mary Lee Walsh]] in ''[[Soul Calibur]]''.

===June===
* June 6 - [[Megan]] leaves for Kentucky. Also, Ran Coleman Yeatts, Cole's biological father, dies.
* June 15 - Chris makes a few posts to his [[PSN Blogs]], complaining about the game Go Puzzle, and announcing he has found a way to play [[Guitar Hero]] on the [[PS3]].
* June ?? - Chris stops working as a volunteer assistant Gym Leader at [[The Game Place]].
* June 27 - Christian states that he is saddened, as Megan has left for Kentucky. He misses her.
* June 27 - Christian cries with his mother whilst thinking of [[Patti]] the dog.
* June 29 - Christian makes his ''PaRappa the Rapper'' video and enters [[PaRappa the Rapper Contest]].

===July===
* July 7 - Christian buys a Velvet Touch masturbator.
* July 14 - Chris is featured in the [[:File:CWCinDailyProgressJuly142007.jpg|Daily Progress]] section of his local newspaper.
* July 16 - Chris buys himself an [[Officer Nasty]] love doll.
* July 18 - Chris hears his Parappa video has made it to the final rounds. He is overjoyed.
* July 21 - Chris updates [[CWC's Pokésite 2|El PokéSite de RWC 2]]. Someone leaves a cryptic negative comment on his [[MySpace]] page.
* July 22 - [[Anna]] tells Chris she voted for his Parappa video and wishes him good luck.
* July 23 - Megan's 21st birthday. She is still in Kentucky, and Chris misses her.
* July 23 - Chris sends [[Chris emails 2007#July|an email]] to a staff member at the [[PVCC]], telling her to vote for him in the PaRappa contest.
* July 23 - Chris makes a post to the [[PSN Blogs]], urging people to vote for him on the PaRappa contest.
* July 31 - The polls for the Parappa contest close.
* July 31 - Chris makes several posts to the [[PSN Blogs]], urging people to vote before the polls close, and wording his anxiousness.

===August===
* August 1 - Chris makes a few posts to the [[PSN Blogs]], talking about PS3 and his wish to be able to understand Japanese.
* August 3 - [[Adam Stackhouse]] wins the PaRappa the Rapper Contest.
* August 3 - Christian immediately sends an enraged e-mail to [[Sony]]. He is furious because he didn't get the opportunity to impress Megan.
* August 3 - In an e-mail to Megan, Christian admits to cheating to win the PaRappa the Rapper Contest.
* August 4 - Christian writes another angry letter to Sony, explaining why the other contestants should be disqualified.
* August 4 - He also curses Adam Stackhouse in his [[PSN Blogs#4 August 2007 — Adam Stackhouse!!!|PSN blog]], which results in an admin serving him with a (probably one month) ban.
* August 6 - Chris updates [[CWC's Sonichu Site!]]
* August 7 - Chris apologizes to Megan for supposedly calling her his girlfriend in the PaRappa Contest, and professes his love for her.
* August 8 - Megan sends Christian an angry letter, complaining about him touching her. She says she is happy he lost the contest. According to Chris: "It hurt so fucking much, it took me weeks to recover."
* August 8 - Christian apologizes to Megan for "touching" her.
* August 8 - Chris sends yet another e-mail to Sony, apologizing for his anger, but still thinks he has won.
* August 10 - Sony responds to Christian's e-mail. They don't take him seriously.
* August 13 - Christian writes to Megan about having confessed his love to her.
* August 20 - Chris buys himself another Officer Nasty love doll, possibly because his other one suffered an internal injury.
* August 31 - Chris tells Megan he will resume his Love Quest in September.
* August ?? - Chris uploads [[CWC is Angry]].

===September===
* September 4 - [[Bob]]'s birthday. Chris makes him a cake.[http://www.mediafire.com/?q6dsbzkgteqxpp6]
* September 4 - On the [[PSN Blogs]], Chris complains about not being able to go online.
* September 5 - On the [[PSN Blogs]], Chris replies to a blog concerning login problems.
* September 12 - On the [[PSN Blogs]], Chris talks about [[PSP]] update 3.7. He also talks about his login problems.
* September 22 - Chris posts a message entitled, "I WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS INJUSTICE!!!!" on his [[MySpace]] Sonichu Group.
* September 27 - On the [[PSN Blogs]], Chris makes a few posts, one asking if he can use a [[XBox]] controller on a PS3.

===October===
* October 1 - Megan says that she is glad that Chris has backed off from his advances.
* October 3 - Christian buys a LAI MI Asian sex doll.
* October 8 - Christian apologizes to Megan for being too pushy.
* October 19 - Christian shows hostile behavior towards a friend of Megan.
* October 20 - Christian apologizes to Megan for his hostile behavior. He blames it on his homophobia.
* October 21 - Megan is annoyed with his behavior and tells him he should mind his own business.
* October 26 - The day that the trolling of Chris began. He is photographed at the Game Place playing ''[[Pokémon]]''. The same day he gets [http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2636398&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=8#post335082042 mentioned] in a SomethingAwful thread (Requires ''Archives'' account to view) by one of his former classmates at PVCC.
* October 27 - Due to the Ulillillia thread getting derailed, a [http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2667671 thread on SomethingAwful] is created about Chris. (Requires ''Archives'' account to view, [http://web.archive.org/web/20071107074539/http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2667671&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 mirror].)
* October 30 - Some guy asks Chris how he's doing in a [[MySpace]] comment.
* October 31 - The SomethingAwful Sycophant Squad (SASS) creates a thread on Chris titled ''Sonichuuuuuuuu...''
* October 31 - [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page is created (according to Christian - according to the history, it was created a bit later).
* October 31 - On the [[PSN Blogs]], Chris asks a question about [[God of War]].
* October 31 - A troll posing as [[PaRappa the Rapper]] pokes fun at Chris in a MySpace comment.

===November===
* November 1 - "PaRappa" and another troll mock Chris in MySpace comments.
* November 2 - Christian discovers the ED page and becomes furious. Again according to himself, this is also contradicted by the time for the page's creation.
* November 3 - The Chris-Chan article on ED is created at 5:45 PM (Ruckersville time) by [[Jason Kendrick Howell]].
* November 3 - [http://4chanarchive.org/brchive/dspl_thread.php5?thread_id=7631380&x=sonichu 4chan Fan-Art thread]. [[Evan]] e-mails some of the images to Chris.
* November 4 - [http://4chanarchive.org/brchive/dspl_thread.php5?thread_id=7656940&x=sonichu+response Chris is angered] by the sexual imagery of Sonichu and himself. He demands a picture of Rosechu "masturbating and squirtin'".
* November 4 - [[Vivian Gee]] [[Vivian Gee E-mails, 2007-2008|sends her first email]] to Chris, telling him that she has a similar but not identical character to Sonichu, and would appreciate it if Chris said it was original.
* November 4 - Chris updates [[CWC's Sonichu Site!]]
* November 5 - Barbara finds out about him being photographed at the [[Game Place]], and goes mad.
* November 5 - In an E-Mail to Anna, Chris discloses that he has been chatting with [[Lori Lopez]].
* November 5 - Chris tells an unknown person via e-mail that people at 4chan's /v/ board are making fun of him, and that they have made an Encyclopedia Dramatica page for Chris.
* November 6 - Somebody sends an e-mail to Chris, claiming that Chris has stolen his [[Sonichu]] character, and that Chris must take down his Sonichu comics in one week or face charges. Chris ignores the e-mail.
* November 6 - Vivian responds to Chris about her earlier e-mail by ranting about how he is the one that makes his life suck. She ends by telling him to fuck off and die.
* November 7 - Christian shoots a [[Captain's Log, Stardate November 7th, 2007|video]] asking to have the ED article edited to "better reflect his personality".
* November 7 - Vivian sends one last e-mail to Chris for a long time, asking him to throw away his medallion.
* November 9 - Barbara goes to the Game Place and questions manager [[Michael (Game Place)|Michael]] about the picture that was taken. She asks to be offered a seat, but as there is no seat, she has to sit on the floor.
* November 10 - [[Michael (Game Place)|Michael]] tells Chris that if he brings up ED once again, he will be banned from the Game Place.<ref>[[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris_emails_her_some_detective_work.2C_Megan_likely_doesn.27t_give_a_shit|Megan Emails, 2008]]</ref>
* November 10 - A picture of Goatse is added to the ED page, and Christian finally breaks down and creates the Reldnahc account to remove it. He then begins [[List_of_Christian%27s_edits_to_Encyclopedia_Dramatica#November_2007|rewriting the article]] in a more favorable light towards him.
* November 11 - In response to she-male and homoerotic Sonichu fan art on the ED page, Chris draws five [[Rule 34]] drawings and adds them to the article in protest. Most feature his Sonichu characters; [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|one in particular]] depicts himself fingering a woman who is later identified as Megan.
* November 12 - Chris adds entries from his [[CWC's Diary|diary]], details about how he lost Megan, and information about his sex doll [[Officer Nasty]] to the ED page. By now Chris has willingly provided 90% of the information that will be used to mock him henceforth.
* November 14 - Chris updates his Sonichu site.
* November 15 - Christian tries to hack ED using HTML. It doesn't work.
* November 23 - Chris buys a 160 GB SATA hard drive for his PS3, greatly increasing its storage space.

===December===
* December 23 - Chris apparently abandons [[CWC's Cool Profile]].
* December 26 - Chris buys [[Kimmi]], the anime love doll, on Adamandeve.com, probably because his parents didn't buy it for him as a Christmas gift.
* December 28 - Once again, Chris returns to [[List_of_Christian%27s_edits_to_Encyclopedia_Dramatica#December_2007|editing]] the text of his ED article into a more positive one.
* December 30 - With a new ED account, "Chris-Chan", Chris starts vandalizing ED.
* December 30 - Christian writes the poem [[Chris emails 2007|For My True Love, I Would...]]
* December 31 - Chris sends his recently completed poem to somebody in contact with Megan, and tells her to send it to her.

==References==
<references />

{{Timeline}}

[[Category:Chronology]]

Captain's Log

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{{Quote|Real life: the final frontier. These are the fails of the lolcow Chris-Chan. His continuing Love Quest: to explore strange new Attraction Locations, to seek out new gal-pals, and new sweethearts; to boldly go where no high-functioning autistic virgin has gone before.}}
[[Image:Captain's Log.jpg|thumb|Ladies, set Tasers to stun.]]

"'''Captain's Log'''" was, for a while [[Chris]]'s usual opening to a video blog, first appearing in his [[Captain's Log, Stardate September 24th, 2008|24 September 2008 video]]. It comes from popular sci-fi franchise ''[[Wikipedia:Star Trek|Star Trek]]''. In a typical episode, the captain, commander or other senior crew member would make an entry to log what has happened in the situation prior to the beginning of the episode. Most ''Star Trek'' Captain's Log entries are noticeably void of [[tard rage]].

Sometimes, Chris gave an incorrect date (though the date is technically always incorrect since he says "Stardate" and gives a Gregorian Calendar date), or failed to provide a date at all. An example of Chris giving an incorrect date would be many of the entries made in [[July 2009]]. The [[CWCki]] has organized the Captain's Log entries by the date they were uploaded.

Interestingly enough, Chris is not a Trekker/ie and has never seen any ''Star Trek'' media.<ref>[[Mailbag 3]]</ref><ref>[[Mailbag 14]]</ref>. His usage of the phrase most likely comes from other shows that reference it, such as ''[[Family Guy]]'' and ''[[Futurama]]''.

He may have encountered the phrase from the ''Star Trek'' game he purchased as a result of the [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes]] competition, but knowing his gaming habits, he probably never played it.

In his later videos, Chris began to stop including it, and he had completely ceased to use it by [[2011]].

==Characteristics==

Generally, a Captain's Log video is one in which Chris addresses his fanbase, a sort of video blog where he asks his [[True and Loyal fanbase]] to be his personal army or to express his hatred about some [[troll]].

This is in contrast to other styles of Chris videos, such as those where he addresses a specific individual (often expecting people to know he's posted a video about them, such as [[Michael Snyder]] of [[The GAMe PLACe]]) or his [[Chris and music|music videos]].

Occasionally, a video is [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|dead serious]], and therefore not worthy of a Captain's Log introduction.

==Captain's ''Blog''==
In [[November 2009]], Chris began [[CWC Blog|maintaining an irregular text blog]] on the [[CWCipedia]], featuring updates on the progress of his comic and his quest to turn [[Sonichu]] into the heart of a multimedia empire. He also dubbed this a "Captain's Log" and marked the successive entries with "Stardates". It could be found halfway down the right column of the site's front page (and also at [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Template:Captain%27s_Log Template:Captain's Log], and he maintained [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=CWC_Blog an archive] of his updates.

==Sources==
<references/>

{{Captain's Log}}
{{CWC-isms}}

[[Category:Captain's log entries]]
[[Category:CWC-isms]]

Niggos

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{{Quote|Sit, Spin and Shut the Fuck Up, NIGGER!!! [[Chris and remorse|And I WILL call you That RIGHT IN YOUR FACE!!!]]|Chris, [[March 2010]]}}

[[Chris]] demonstrates [[Chris and race|many instances of intolerance and racism]], both intentional and unintentional. His racism probably comes from several sources: [[Bob Chandler|his parental upbringing]], his isolated formative years, [[Chris and television|television]], [[Naïve|naivete]], and complete ignorance of everything that isn't him. '''Black people''', in particular, are a common target for his xenophobia.

==Origin of the word "Niggos"==
{{protip|Chris only ever used the word "niggos" once. He has used the word "nigger" more than once, though.}}

'''Niggos''' is one of [[Chris]]' many minced oaths, this one meant to refer to black people. His only known use of the term was in the [[Julie Reveals Herself|3 March 2009 chat]] where [[BlueSpike]] coerced him into saying "''[[BILLY MAYS]] is the new mayor of [[CWCville]], and Christian Chandler will be thrown in CWCville jail, where he will be raped by a bunch of niggers.''" Chris repeated the line as ordered, but (being retarded as usual) ignored his instructions and attempted to outsmart BlueSpike by saying "niggos" instead of the dreaded N-word. Yes, out of all the things Chris could have done (you know, refused to say the N-word; said "N-word", or "blacks", or "African-Americans", or some similar term; leave race out of the matter entirely by saying "criminals" or "prisoners"; bleep himself out; or just not be a retard and end the conversation) he chose to coin a retarded ''and'' offensive term which, as if to add insult to injury, sounds like a lame brand of cereal. It should be noted that Chris's creativity was completely in vain. BlueSpike pointed out Chris's faggotry, and our autistic hero had to spell out "nigger" properly several times. He even got the hang of it, and started singing [[Don't Trust Any Homos Over There|"Don't Trust Them New Niggers Over There"]] on his own will, which he had done more than once before.<ref>[[Mumble 7#Summary|"Mumble #7"]]</ref><ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.5#Summary|"BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.5"]]</ref> So much for respecting the minorities.

As of now, Chris has never again used the word "niggo", and probably doesn't even remember the whole incident. Nonetheless, "niggo" is still considered a [[CWC-ism]], and is classified as a CWC-neologism.

However, in a video posted on his YouTube Channel on 17 [[March 2010]], Chris finally dropped the [[100 2151.MOV|N-Bomb]], making him an official [[Chris and race|racist]]. The [[Surfshack Tito E-mails|Surfshack Tito e-mails]], released shortly afterward, featured further use of the slur, suggesting that Chris has entirely gotten over the resistance he showed in his conversation with BlueSpike. His use of the slur led directly to the vandalization of the [[CWCipedia]] by opening it up to public editing. Chris being Chris, he failed to connect the two events.
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=="[[Evan|No Darkies]]"==
{{protip|Chris never said or wrote "No darkies", nor has he ever used the word "darkie".}}

[[File:Nodarkies.JPG|thumb|Chris approved of this pic, and said he liked it.<ref>[[:File:Chrisreply1evan.png]]</ref>]]

Chris has been widely considered to be racist against black people since it was learned that his highly specific criteria for a [[sweetheart]] includes whiteness and specifically excludes blackness.<ref>[[Attraction Sign]]</ref><ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate May 22nd, 2009|"Captain's Log, Stardate May 22nd, 2009"]]</ref> Chris does not only tell this to trolls, however, he has told black [[boyfriend-free girls]] who are interested in him in real life, that they do not "meet his standard criteria for a female companion." To their faces.<ref>[[Autism papers|Chris's Psychiatric Examination]]</ref> Trolls quickly coined the phrase "No darkies" as a quick summary of Chris's criteria for a BFG, much to his chagrin. This is essentially accurate - for example, on Chris's profile at [[The Hook Cafe|''The HooK'' Café]] he says that "[[Tobacky|smokers]], [[obesity|overweights]], blacks, and [[Chris and hypocrisy|liars]] need not apply."

Some may argue, if excluding "darkies" from the list of Chris's potential [[Sweetheart|heartsweets]] is actually an act of racism and discrimination against black women. Quite possibly, it could be rather considered an act of racism and discrimination against ''white'' women, as they are specifically selected as the manchild's possible victims of stalking and harassment. Chris also stated that he doesn't hate men who have black girlfriends, and doesn't consider them [[JERKS]], so Chris may think it'll increase his chances of finding a white boyfriend-free girl.

The stated reason for Chris's disinterest in black women was that [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]] was supposed to be white, which means her mother must be white as well. However, a hole was punched in this defense when Chris's dating site profiles made it clear that all he wanted was sex, but he still excluded black women. His justification for his blatant racism was even further proven to be a lie when he was specifically asked to describe all the races he would date. Chris's answer: "all but black".<ref>[[IRC (17 December 2008)]]</ref>

==Niggos in Chris's life==
[[Image:0242-CWC&VarsityBBallTeam97Color.jpg|thumb|left|Watch your back pocket, Chris!]]
[[File:Difficult time lady.jpg|thumb|Difficult time lady.]]
There were some 12 to 15-year-old black kids who frequented [[The GAMe PLACe]]. Chris picked on them and acted like they wanted to steal from him, hiding his stuff when they were nearby.<ref>[[Mimms]]' [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/pvcc/viewtopic.php?p=16855#p16855 post] on [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC]]</ref> The official reason Chris got banned permanently from The GAMe PLACe was getting into a shouting match with one of these kids.

Chris also once argued with a huge black guy named TJ while playing [[Yu-Gi-Oh]]. When they started talking about how Chris would never get laid, Chris yelled "I'm going to smack your effing face down!" As TJ stood up like he was going to beat Chris's ass, Chris shrunk and whimpered "I mean your face down monster..."<ref>[[Mimms]]' [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/pvcc/viewtopic.php?p=17281#p17281 post] on [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC]]</ref>

When Chris talked on the phone to [[Jackie]]'s boyfriend [[Lars]], he tried to bridge the gap between their different races by speaking in ebonics, including referring to himself as a "nigga" (although ''not'' as a "niggo") and making statements like: "I enjoy the TV shows I get from the... From the black man, including [[Wikipedia:The Jeffersons|''The Jeffersons'']], and... [[Wikipedia:Bill Cosby|Bill Cosby]], and... [[Wikipedia:Sanford and Son|''Sanford and Son'']], all a' them."<ref>[[Lars Call]]</ref>

On 27 June 2012, Chris posted in [[Facebook]] a photo of a black woman who gave him "a difficult time."
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==Niggos in the Comic==
In the [[Sonichu Comic|''Sonichu'' comics]], most black characters are villains who try to thwart Chris and [[Electric Hedgehog Pokemon|his hedgehogs]] at every turn. The ones that aren't so lucky are treated like crap by the other characters or used in race-related jokes.

===[[B-Manajerk]]===
A '''villain''' based off a real life encounter. The B most likely stands for Black – the name was coined so that Chris could distinguish him from other [[Manajerks]]. This is quite similar to the way American black superheroes were named in the 1950-60s. He is a cousin of the [[Jerkhief]], because obviously dem black peoples must know each other or be related.

===[[Barack Obama]]===
A cameo for the sake of '''a race-related joke'''. [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] told Chris a racist joke about then-senator Obama, which Chris [[autism|believed as being a real rumor]], approved of, and then illustrated within the pages of [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]]. Oh, and just in case you didn't think Chris was racist enough, he also drew Obama wearing a strange exotic dress and headgear, which probably was meant to imply that he is a [[Twin Falling Towers|Muslim]], just because his middle name is "Hussein". Chris later removed the joke after Obama won the election, but he probably only did that because he respects Obama now.

[[Image:Nigrachu.jpg|thumb|And he's black and he's black.]]

===[[Blake|Black Sonichu/Blachu/Blake]]===
A '''villain''' turned positive-aligned "bad boy". Black Sonichu/Blachu (whose name was later [[retconned|changed]] to Blake) was originally a villain who later switched sides because he's a recolor of [[Shadow the Hedgehog]]. Note that Chris doesn't give him a creative name, like Shadow, but thinks that noting his "blackness" would be enough (see B-Manajerk). Black Sonichu's story is quite (stereo)typical. He was brought to the CWCverse against his will, and [[Reldnahc]] (a white boy) quickly states that he is Blachu's master. Blachu then proceeds to steal a pink woman ([[Rosechu]]) and later a precious stone ([[Legendary Master Sunstone]]). Black Sonichu, compared to his yellow original, is considered inferior, and is all brawn and aggression while not being able to figure how to defend properly. Before his name change several characters made several ambiguous remarks when referring to him which could be interpreted as racist (including [[Wild|Wild's]] "I was following this black guy on a board..." comment). To Chris's credit, Blake becomes a positive character later, and even scores an interracial relationship with [[Bubbles Rosechu]]. Still, the couple is forced to hide that fact from the intolerant society of [[CWCville]], and other characters do nothing to stop this travesty.

===[[CADD Chef]]===
A '''villain''' based on Christian's actual [[CADD|Computer Aided Drafting & Design]] teacher, Kene Meniru, at [[Piedmont Virginia Community College]]. Meniru gave Chris an F in real life (probably for Chris's "[[Chris_and_English#Spelling|geinus]]" building designs) and is portrayed as a [[JERKS|jerk]] who always complains about the buildings in CWCville. Given how bad Chris is at [[Chris and Art|drawing]], the CADD Chef's comments are perfectly understandable. Note that Chris thought it was more important that Kene Meniru was black than that he was a teacher, and decided to portray him as possibly the only [[South_Park|black cartoon character he was familiar with]], even though that character had no other similarity to Mr. Meniru than the color of his skin.

===[[Silvana]]===
A '''villain''', psychic Rosechu who was trained by [[Count Graduon]] on [[Moon|the Moon]]. Graduon also gave her a [[pickle|dick]]. In [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]], she raped and poisoned [[Blake]] while disguised as Bubbles, and planned to do the same to [[Bubbles]] while disguised as Blake. In [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], however, [[Magi-Chan]] spoiled that Silvana would lose her dick and fall in love with him. The [[CWCipedia]] confirmed this.

===Minor(ity) Characters===
*[[Florance Fisher]] - A girl whose sole purpose in the comic is to be rejected by Reginald.
*[[Jerkhief]] - A...pretty bad-ass Jerkop? Apparently not every black person has to be a racist caricature.
*[[Inos]] - A homeless, intoxicated, diseased, drug-pushing, expectorating Jamaican with filthy dreadlocks.
*[[Constables Gerald Grant and Louis Perez|Constable Louis Perez]] - A police officer who talks entirely in stereotypical "black slang".
*PHI Spring Break reporter ([[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]]) - despite only appearing in one panel, Chris manages to make her into a stereotype, addressing the audience as "Sistas and brothas."
*[[Jerkop|Jerkops]] at CWCville Forest - In [[Sonichu 9#Episode 20: CWC-Defense|episode 20]], [[Wild]] and [[Simonla]] are attacked at the CWCville Forest by a large group of Jerkops, many of whom are black.<ref>''[[Sonichu 9]]'', pp. [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_9/Page_47 47]-[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_9/Page_49 49].</ref>

==See also==
* [[Chris and race|Chris and Race]]
* [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|"Chris Drops the N-Bomb"]]
* [[Homos]]
* [[Man in the Pickle Suit]]
* [[Surfshack Tito (troll)|Surfshack Tito]]
* [[Song for Jackie.MOV|"Song for Jackie.MOV"]] - Chris's infamous blackface video.
*[[Lars Is Jivin'.MP4|"Lars Is Jivin'.MP4"]] - Chris in all his thugnificence.

== Sources ==
<references/>

{{CWC-isms}}

[[Category:CWC-isms]]
[[Category:People]]

1980s

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[[Image:0028-ChristopherWMom1.jpg|thumb|Chris and his mom in the eighties.]]
[[Image:0002-BabyChristopher.jpg|thumb|Baby Chris in '''1982''']]
[[Image:0002-1-Baby_Chris_and_Mommy.jpg|thumb|Baby Chris and Barbara.]]
[[Image:0004-ChristopherDec1985.jpg|thumb|Chris and Barbara in '''1985'''.]]
[[File:Cwcbaby.jpg|thumb|TRUE and HONEST BabyCWC]]
[[Image:0006-Christopher6-1986.jpg|thumb|'''1986''']]
[[Image:0008-ChristopherShopping12-1986.jpg|thumb|Chris in '''1986'''.]]
[[Image:0024-ChristopherTurns5.jpg|thumb|'''1987''', Chris turns 5.]]
[[Image:0031-1-Chris_on_Pony.jpg|thumb|Poor pony.]]
[[Image:0031-EasterChristopher.jpg|thumb|Twenty years later, Chris himself would have a try at the [[Bunny Hop]].]]

The '''1980s''' was the decade in which [[Christian Weston Chandler]] was born, under the name Christopher Weston Chandler. (His name wasn't changed until [[1994]].) According to Chris, he had a lot of trouble growing up, and even coped with a prolonged episode of muteness.

Source material referring to the 1980s is scarce, and this article is mostly based on statements made by Chris at a later age, and on image material.

==1980==
The year [[Bob]] and [[Barbara]] got married.
===Events of 1980===
* 1980 - [[Cole]] moves away.<ref>[[:Image:Cole 07-03-06-1.PNG|6 March 2007 email from Cole to Chris, page 1]]</ref>
* 7 June - Bob and Barbara get married.<ref>[[Sarah Reveals Herself#Family matters]]</ref><ref>[[The 24th Wedding Anniversary Special]]</ref>
* August - Bob receives two triple bypass operations.

==1981==
The last year of peace for Bob and Barbara Chandler. Unluckily for them, the happy couple filled their time with lots of unprotected love-making. During the second half on this year, Barbara would be pregnant.
===Events of 1981===
* 26 May (approx.) - Bob and Barbara Chandler have sweaty old people sex. [[Christopher Weston Chandler]] is conceived.
* 26 November (approx) - Barbara's last chance to abort Chris.

==1982==
The year that began the entire sorry saga.
===Events of 1982===
* 24 February - Christopher Weston Chandler is born around 5:30 a.m. at [[Wikipedia:Martha Jefferson Hospital|Martha Jefferson Hospital]] in [[Charlottesville, VA|Charlottesville]], [[Virginia]].<ref name="WikiProfile">[[Chris's Wikipedia profile]]</ref>
* 24 February - Chris is brought back to the Chandler [[house]]hold in [[Ruckersville, VA|Ruckersville]].<ref>According to Christian in the [[Song of Christian]] video.</ref>
* April - Chris allegedly speaks his first word: "[[Niggos|monkey]]."<ref name="Song and Wikipedia">[[Song of Christian]] and [[User:ChrisChanSonichu profile#His Early Years - Birth to 1992]]</ref>
* 13 October - [[Sarah Nicole Hammer]] is born.<ref name="LifeShares">[[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares#The Story]]</ref>

==1983==
Chris has stated that in '''1983''', he was abused by his [[babysitter]], "starting" his [[autism]]. On other occasions, however, Chris has said that he is aware of autism being a hereditary disease, making his "acquisition" of autism impossible.<ref>[[Mumble 8]]</ref> We can nonetheless assume that the abuse Christopher suffered in 1983 was traumatic and possibly exacerbated his condition.<ref>First statement was done in the [[Song of Christian]] video.</ref>

===Events of 1983===
* 24 February - Christopher's 1st birthday.
* August - Christopher's autism allegedly "begins." He claims the reason was an evil [[babysitter]] named [[Roach]], who locked him in a room. He becomes mute.<ref name="Song and Wikipedia" />

==1984==
In '''1984''', Chris lived his life in [[Richmond]] as a mute toddler. He himself declares that he gave his parents a lot of trouble, and he screeched a lot.<ref name="WikiProfile" /> It is possibly indicated that his parents held this against him at a later age, and didn't really like caring for the [[autistic]] child they had created themselves.

===Events of 1984===
* 24 February - Christopher's 2nd birthday.

==1985==
In '''1985''', Chris is still a mute, screeching toddler. He first meets his [[Gal-Pal]] [[Sarah]].

===Events of 1985===
* This year - Sarah Hammer and her family moves to Chris's neighborhood. The cordial relations that develops between the Hammer and Chandler couples lead to a (sort of) friendship between Chris and Sarah.<ref name="LifeShares" />
* 24 February - Christopher's 3rd birthday.
* April - Chris has his picture taken holding a [[4-cent garbage|leaf]].
* ''12 August - birth of [[Jack Thaddeus]]''.
* December - Chris and Barbara have their picture taken with Santa Claus.

==1986==
In '''1986''', Chris is still a mute, screeching toddler.

===Events of 1986===
* 17 January - ''[[The Adventures of the American Rabbit]]'' is released.
* 24 February - Christopher's 4th birthday.
* June - Chris has his picture taken at what seems to be a zoo.
* 23 July - Birth of [[Megan Schroeder]].
* December - Chris has his picture taken in front of a bathroom, and at a shopping mall.

==1987==
In '''1987''', Chris starts attending [[Greene County Primary School]]. It isn't known for sure if he attended pre-kindergarten before then.

===Events of 1987===
* 24 February - Christopher's 5th birthday. A paper hat is made in his honor.
* August/September - Chris begins kindergarten at [[Greene County Primary School]].

==1988==
In '''1988''', Chris starts first grade at Greene County Primary School, but he is still mute. Late [[1980s]], Chris joins the [[Chris and religion|Cub Scouts]].
===Events of 1988===
* Date unknown - [[Minor_Family_Members#Carol_Suzanne_Chandler|Carol Chandler]] wins the McShane Prize.
* 24 February - Christopher's 6th birthday.
* 17 March - [[Patti]] is born.<ref>As can be read on the doghouse in Sonichu #6: [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/sonichu/SchuComic7.htm]</ref>
* August/September - Chris begins first grade at Greene County Primary School.

==1989==
In '''1989''', helped by the language training at [[James Madison University]], Christopher starts talking again whilst reading a Gobot package.<ref>According to Christian in the Song of Christian video.</ref>

===Events of 1989===
* 1989 - Chris claims that he had a dream that in which he saw himself with a daughter named [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]], and working in an office.
* 24 February - Christopher's 7th birthday.
* August/September - Chris enters second grade at Greene County Primary School.
* December - The English conductor of the Regency Square Bear Band, Leonard Bearstein, mistakes Christopher's name for "Christian". According to Chris, this stuck, and would inspire his [[Christopher's name change|name-change]] in [[1994]],<ref name="dvd1">[[:Image:0060-CWCNote1.jpg|DVD, note 1]]</ref> though other sources state that this happened in [[1992]].
* 25 December - Chris gets his second gaming system, a [[Nintendo]] Game Boy, for Christmas.

==References==
<references />

{{Timeline}}

[[Category:Chronology]]

Pre-1980

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{{DeadLinks}}
This page covers events in [[CWCki:CWChronology|CWChronology]] occurring '''before 1980'''.

==Timeline==
===Pre-1900===
*'''c. 1499/1500 – 19 July 1543''' - The life of [[Wikipedia:Mary Boleyn|Mary Boleyn]], Chris's alleged ancestor.<ref>[[Keep CWC's Wikipedia Up]]</ref>
*'''c. 1501/07 – 19 May 1536''' - The life of [[Anne Boleyn]], Chris's alleged ancestor.
*'''1 March 1577 – 13 March 1634/35''' - life of [[Wikipedia:Richard Weston, 1st Earl of Portland|Richard Weston, 1st Earl of Portland]], Chris's alleged ancestor.<ref>[[Keep CWC's Wikipedia Up]]</ref>
*'''1620''' - The ''Mayflower'' sails, allegedly with [[Daniel Weston]] aboard.
*'''1723''' - Foundation of [[Ruckersville]].
*'''1762''' - Foundation of [[Charlottesville]].
*'''1776''' - [[United States of America|Independence]].
*'''3 October 1896''' - Joseph Otto Weston, Barbara's father, is born.

===1900s===
*'''1906''' - Birth of Robert Franklin Chandler Sr., Bob's father.
*'''1906''' - Birth of Jean Holloman, Bob's mother.

===1910s===
*'''15 December 1911''' - Barbara's mother, Carrie Edna Wynn, is born.
*'''18 July 1913''' - Birth of [[Red Skelton]].

===1920s===
*'''1926''' - Barbara's parents, Joseph Otto Weston and Carrie Edna Wynn, marry.
*'''4 September 1927''' - Birth of [[Bob Chandler]].

===1930s===
*'''1935''' - Bob begins collecting stamps.
*'''26 January 1936''' - Birth of [[Aunt Corrina]].

===1940s===
*'''1 October 1941''' - Birth of [[Barbara Chandler]].
*'''10 May 1945''' - Death of Jean Holloman, Bob's mother.
*'''Fall 1945 - Spring 1946''' - Bob attends his freshman year at Auburn University according to the Auburn University 1946 yearbook.
*'''6 July 1946''' - Birth of [[George W. Bush]].
*'''c.1945/6-1947''' - Bob is drafted into the U.S. Army and is stationed in Korea with the [[Wikipedia:Signal Corps (United States Army)|Signal Corps]].<ref><s>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeWYHFIKXJY</s> (Dead link)</ref><ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript]]</ref>
*'''1947''' - Bob is discharged from the Army, according to his word.

===1950s===
*'''Around this time''' - Barbara loses her [[Virgin with Rage|virginity]].<ref name="FacebookVirginity">According to a [[Facebook statuses|Facebook status]] from 30 [[January 2012]], in which Chris says that Barbara lost her virginity in high school while Bob lost his virginity at age 27.</ref>
*c. '''1949-54''' - Bob comes home after a 21-month tour of duty,<ref>[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Training_and_Service_Act_of_1940#After_WWII]</ref> and goes to college (two years of pre-engineering in a small school and an engineering degree in [[Wikipedia:Auburn University|Auburn]]) under [[Wikipedia:G.I. Bill|the G.I. Bill]] and later starts his engineering career.<ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript]]</ref>
*'''1954'''/'''1955''' - Bob loses his virginity.<ref name="FacebookVirginity" />
*'''1954''' - Barb's father, Joseph Otto Weston, dies.
*'''1956''' - Birth of [[Michael Snyder]].<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic]</ref>
*'''1957''' - Birth of [[Matthew Devoria]], father of [[Kacey]].<ref>[[Father Call]]</ref>
*'''20 July 1958''' - Birth of [[BILLY MAYS]].

===1960s===
*'''1961''' - Ran Coleman Yeatts, Cole's biological father, graduates from Wake Forest University.
*'''16 June 1961''' - Barbara marries Ran Coleman Yeatts.
*'''4 August 1961''' - Birth of [[Barack Obama]].
*'''28 November 1962''' - Birth of [[David Chandler]].<ref>[[:File:457-FamilyTreeTitle.JPG]]</ref>
*'''24 July 1963''' - Birth of [[Cole Smithey]].
*'''27 August 1964''' - Walt Disney Pictures releases ''[[Mary Poppins]]''.
*'''1 December 1966''' - Bob files a patent for a vehicle logging system.
*'''23 August 1967''' - Carrie Edna Wynn, Barbara's mother, dies.
*'''7 July 1969''' - Birth of [[Carol Chandler]].
*'''23 December 1969''' - Bob's patent for a vehicle logging system is published.

===1970s===
*'''26 December 1973''' - Bob files a patent for a "Shot volume and cushion point control for injection molding apparatus".
*'''17 June 1975''' - Bob's patent for a "Shot volume and cushion point control for injection molding apparatus" is published.
*'''4 July 1976''' - Birth of [[Clyde Cash]].
*'''1977''' - [[14 Branchland Court]] is built.
*'''27 December 1977''' - Death of Robert Franklin Chandler Sr., Bob's father.
*'''1979''' - Bob and Barbara meet.<ref>[[Mumble 5]]</ref>
*'''14 December 1979''' - Birth of [[Joseph Herring]].

==References==
<references />

{{Timeline}}

[[Category:Chronology]]

Pre-1980

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{{DeadLinks}}
This page covers events in [[CWCki:CWChronology|CWChronology]] occurring '''before 1980'''.

==Timeline==
===Pre-1900===
*'''c. 1499/1500 – 19 July 1543''' - The life of [[Wikipedia:Mary Boleyn|Mary Boleyn]], Chris's alleged ancestor.<ref>[[Keep CWC's Wikipedia Up]]</ref>
*'''c. 1501/07 – 19 May 1536''' - The life of [[Anne Boleyn]], Chris's alleged ancestor.
*'''1 March 1577 – 13 March 1634/35''' - life of [[Wikipedia:Richard Weston, 1st Earl of Portland|Richard Weston, 1st Earl of Portland]], Chris's alleged ancestor.<ref>[[Keep CWC's Wikipedia Up]]</ref>
*'''1620''' - The ''Mayflower'' sails, allegedly with [[Daniel Weston]] aboard.
*'''1723''' - Foundation of [[Ruckersville]].
*'''1762''' - Foundation of [[Charlottesville]].
*'''1776''' - [[United States of America|Independence]].
*'''3 October 1896''' - Joseph Otto Weston, Barbara's father, is born.

===1900s===
*'''1906''' - Birth of Robert Franklin Chandler Sr., Bob's father.
*'''1906''' - Birth of Jean Holloman, Bob's mother.

===1910s===
*'''15 December 1911''' - Barbara's mother, Carrie Edna Wynn, is born.
*'''18 July 1913''' - Birth of [[Red Skelton]].

===1920s===
*'''1926''' - Barbara's parents, Joseph Otto Weston and Carrie Edna Wynn, marry.
*'''4 September 1927''' - Birth of [[Bob Chandler]].

===1930s===
*'''1935''' - Bob begins collecting stamps.
*'''26 January 1936''' - Birth of [[Aunt Corrina]].

===1940s===
*'''1 October 1941''' - Birth of [[Barbara Chandler]].
*'''10 May 1945''' - Death of Jean Holloman, Bob's mother.
*'''Fall 1945 - Spring 1946''' - Bob attends his freshman year at Auburn University according to the Auburn University 1946 yearbook.
*'''6 July 1946''' - Birth of [[George W. Bush]].
*'''c.1945/6-1947''' - Bob is drafted into the U.S. Army and is stationed in Korea with the [[Wikipedia:Signal Corps (United States Army)|Signal Corps]].<ref><s>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeWYHFIKXJY</s> (Dead link)</ref><ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript]]</ref>
*'''1947''' - Bob is discharged from the Army, according to his word.

===1950s===
*'''Around this time''' - Barbara loses her [[Virgin with Rage|virginity]].<ref name="FacebookVirginity">According to a [[Facebook statuses|Facebook status]] from 30 [[January 2012]], in which Chris says that Barbara lost her virginity in high school while Bob lost his virginity at age 27.</ref>
*c. '''1949-54''' - Bob comes home after a 21-month tour of duty,<ref>[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Training_and_Service_Act_of_1940#After_WWII]</ref> and goes to college (two years of pre-engineering in a small school and an engineering degree in [[Wikipedia:Auburn University|Auburn]]) under [[Wikipedia:G.I. Bill|the G.I. Bill]] and later starts his engineering career.<ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript]]</ref>
*'''1954'''/'''1955''' - Bob loses his virginity.<ref name="FacebookVirginity" />
*'''1954''' - Barb's father, Joseph Otto Weston, dies.
*'''1956''' - Birth of [[Michael Snyder]].<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic]</ref>
*'''1957''' - Birth of [[Matthew Devoria]], father of [[Kacey]].<ref>[[Father Call]]</ref>
*'''20 July 1958''' - Birth of [[BILLY MAYS]].

===1960s===
*'''1961''' - Ran Coleman Yeatts, Cole's biological father, graduates from Wake Forest University.
*'''16 June 1961''' - Barbara marries Ran Coleman Yeatts.
*'''4 August 1961''' - Birth of [[Barack Obama]].
*'''28 November 1962''' - Birth of [[David Chandler]]<ref>[[:File:457-FamilyTreeTitle.JPG]]</ref>
*'''24 July 1963''' - Birth of [[Cole Smithey]].
*'''27 August 1964''' - Walt Disney Pictures releases ''[[Mary Poppins]]''.
*'''1 December 1966''' - Bob files a patent for a vehicle logging system.
*'''23 August 1967''' - Carrie Edna Wynn, Barbara's mother, dies.
*'''7 July 1969''' - Birth of [[Carol Chandler]].
*'''23 December 1969''' - Bob's patent for a vehicle logging system is published.

===1970s===
*'''26 December 1973''' - Bob files a patent for a "Shot volume and cushion point control for injection molding apparatus".
*'''17 June 1975''' - Bob's patent for a "Shot volume and cushion point control for injection molding apparatus" is published.
*'''4 July 1976''' - Birth of [[Clyde Cash]].
*'''1977''' - [[14 Branchland Court]] is built.
*'''27 December 1977''' - Death of Robert Franklin Chandler Sr., Bob's father.
*'''1979''' - Bob and Barbara meet.<ref>[[Mumble 5]]</ref>
*'''14 December 1979''' - Birth of [[Joseph Herring]].

==References==
<references />

{{Timeline}}

[[Category:Chronology]]

Pre-1980

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{{DeadLinks}}
This page covers events in [[CWCki:CWChronology|CWChronology]] occurring '''before 1980'''.

==Timeline==
===Pre-1900===
*'''c. 1499/1500 – 19 July 1543''' - The life of [[Wikipedia:Mary Boleyn|Mary Boleyn]], Chris's alleged ancestor.<ref>[[Keep CWC's Wikipedia Up]]</ref>
*'''c. 1501/07 – 19 May 1536''' - The life of [[Anne Boleyn]], Chris's alleged ancestor.
*'''1 March 1577 – 13 March 1634/35''' - life of [[Wikipedia:Richard Weston, 1st Earl of Portland|Richard Weston, 1st Earl of Portland]], Chris's alleged ancestor.<ref>[[Keep CWC's Wikipedia Up]]</ref>
*'''1620''' - The ''Mayflower'' sails, allegedly with [[Daniel Weston]] aboard.
*'''1723''' - Foundation of [[Ruckersville]].
*'''1762''' - Foundation of [[Charlottesville]].
*'''1776''' - [[United States of America|Independence]].
*'''3 October 1896''' - Joseph Otto Weston, Barbara's father, is born.

===1900s===
*'''1906''' - Birth of Robert Franklin Chandler Sr., Bob's father.
*'''1906''' - Birth of Jean Holloman, Bob's mother.

===1910s===
*'''15 December 1911''' - Barbara's mother, Carrie Edna Wynn, is born.
*'''18 July 1913''' - Birth of [[Red Skelton]].

===1920s===
*'''1926''' - Barbara's parents, Joseph Otto Weston and Carrie Edna Wynn, marry.
*'''4 September 1927''' - Birth of [[Bob Chandler]].

===1930s===
*'''1935''' - Bob begins collecting stamps.
*'''26 January 1936''' - Birth of [[Aunt Corrina]].

===1940s===
*'''1 October 1941''' - Birth of [[Barbara Chandler]].
*'''10 May 1945''' - Death of Jean Holloman, Bob's mother.
*'''Fall 1945 - Spring 1946''' - Bob attends his freshman year at Auburn University according to the Auburn University 1946 yearbook.
*'''6 July 1946''' - Birth of [[George W. Bush]].
*'''c.1945/6-1947''' - Bob is drafted into the U.S. Army and is stationed in Korea with the [[Wikipedia:Signal Corps (United States Army)|Signal Corps]].<ref><s>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeWYHFIKXJY</s> (Dead link)</ref><ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript]]</ref>
*'''1947''' - Bob is discharged from the Army, according to his word.

===1950s===
*'''Around this time''' - Barbara loses her [[Virgin with Rage|virginity]].<ref name="FacebookVirginity">According to a [[Facebook statuses|Facebook status]] from 30 [[January 2012]], in which Chris says that Barbara lost her virginity in high school while Bob lost his virginity at age 27.</ref>
*c. '''1949-54''' - Bob comes home after a 21-month tour of duty<ref>[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Training_and_Service_Act_of_1940#After_WWII]</ref> and goes to college (two years of pre-engineering in a small school and an engineering degree in [[Wikipedia:Auburn University|Auburn]]) under [[Wikipedia:G.I. Bill|the G.I. Bill]] and later starts his engineering career.<ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript]]</ref>
*'''1954'''/'''1955''' - Bob loses his virginity.<ref name="FacebookVirginity" />.
*'''1954''' - Barb's father, Joseph Otto Weston, dies.
*'''1956''' - Birth of [[Michael Snyder]].<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRcholic]</ref>
*'''1957''' - Birth of [[Matthew Devoria]], father of [[Kacey]].<ref>[[Father Call]]</ref>
*'''20 July 1958''' - Birth of [[BILLY MAYS]].

===1960s===
*'''1961''' - Ran Coleman Yeatts, Cole's biological father, graduates from Wake Forest University.
*'''16 June 1961''' - Barbara marries Ran Coleman Yeatts.
*'''4 August 1961''' - Birth of [[Barack Obama]].
*'''28 November 1962''' - Birth of [[David Chandler]]<ref>[[:File:457-FamilyTreeTitle.JPG]]</ref>
*'''24 July 1963''' - Birth of [[Cole Smithey]].
*'''27 August 1964''' - Walt Disney Pictures releases ''[[Mary Poppins]]''.
*'''1 December 1966''' - Bob files a patent for a vehicle logging system.
*'''23 August 1967''' - Carrie Edna Wynn, Barbara's mother, dies.
*'''7 July 1969''' - Birth of [[Carol Chandler]].
*'''23 December 1969''' - Bob's patent for a vehicle logging system is published.

===1970s===
*'''26 December 1973''' - Bob files a patent for a "Shot volume and cushion point control for injection molding apparatus".
*'''17 June 1975''' - Bob's patent for a "Shot volume and cushion point control for injection molding apparatus" is published.
*'''4 July 1976''' - Birth of [[Clyde Cash]].
*'''1977''' - [[14 Branchland Court]] is built.
*'''27 December 1977''' - Death of Robert Franklin Chandler Sr., Bob's father.
*'''1979''' - Bob and Barbara meet.<ref>[[Mumble 5]]</ref>
*'''14 December 1979''' - Birth of [[Joseph Herring]].

==References==
<references />

{{Timeline}}

[[Category:Chronology]]

User:Kaltenbrunner

2015-01-25T19:32:28Z

Kaltenbrunner: Created page with "Just here to correct spelling, grammar or structural issues, mainly."

Just here to correct spelling, grammar or structural issues, mainly.

JenkinsJinkies

2015-01-25T14:42:59Z

Kaltenbrunner: /* CWCki */

{{Articleofthenow}}

'''Junior Jenkins''', alias '''JenkinsJinkies''' (born 16 July [[1995]]), was Chris's [[Disguises|trollsona]] from [[May 2010|May]] to [[August 2010]].

==CWCki==
[[image:Fatjenkins.jpg|thumb|The great JenkinsJinkies.]]
JenkinsJinkies began as another [[CWCki]] account, made by Chris to confirm that the antenna he had removed from his [[PS3]] wasn't a bug on [[PS3/How the PS3 is Hacked|"PS3/How the PS3 is Hacked"]], a bait-page made by [[Clyde]]. It was quickly discovered that JenkinsJinkies was Chris and the [[Trollin Train|appropriate action]] was taken soon afterwards. Clyde contacted Chris through JenkinsJinkies' [[User talk:JenkinsJinkies|talk page]] and it resulted in a short correspondence between the two.

{{quote|I lost my young virginity with a [[Merried Seinor Comic|Seinor]] [[Kellie Andes|Cheerleader]]; her [[china]] was sweeeeettt! Plus, as an [[ED|Anon]], I prefer to keep my add off of the web. I would not want Chris coming after my ass. The mindfuck that he is, I would not want to fall victim of one of his impulsive manchild rampages. I just enjoy getting the [[Laughs Under Lucricities|LULZ]] off of him.|JenkinsJinkies, the fourteen-year-old [[homos|sodomite]] who had gay sex at the age of seven and lost his [[virgin]]ity to a high school student beforehand; who also lives directly [[14 Branchland Ct.|across the street]] from Chris.}}

As JenkinsJinkies, Chris created the bizarre [[Coffee Place]] page, an article which originally started off as a reported sighting of Chris in [[Burger King]] but quickly devolved into a rant against [[Amanda]], a part-time [[Manajerk|manager]] who seemingly irked Chris by not treating himself, [[Bob]], and other [[Merried Seinor Comic|"seinors"]] with the adequate respect Chris thought she should. How JenkinsJinkies was able to know all this information about Amanda after one visit and why he would care if she mistreated Bob or not was never to be explained by Chris.

Chris believed playing a troll who was [[Chris and reality|legitimately]] afraid of Chris's wrath would totally convince [[Clyde Cash]] himself that he was legit. He also unsuccessfully tried to scare the trolls into thinking he was plotting to hunt them down, one by one. Several [[/cwc/|lesser]] trolls believed they were the first ones to realize that JenkinsJinkies was Chris and blew the whistle every now and again, but such leaks were uncommon and generally most trolls played along.

==Trollin Train==
As the trolls began to tug on JenkinsJinkies' marionette strings, a [[Trollin Train|trolling forum]] entirely dedicated to making Chris paranoid was established. Despite all posts, members and threads being only a few days old, Chris was [[Naive|completely convinced]] that it was the official trolling hub, where all the nefarious plots made against him were conceived.

As if it weren't obvious enough that Junior Jenkins was Chris, he also went out of his way to praise Chris for his ingenious schemes for halting the trolls' wicked plans and/or dissuade the trolls from even trying - often combining the two themes into the same post.

{{quote|I have to hand it to him, he makes it Frustrating to Troll Him. It's like we have to PAY AirFare or HitchHike Dangerously and do it Old-Fashioned with Accordian Cameras and shit like that.|JuniorJenkins, [[Trollin Train#Damn! (Wed 25 Aug 2010 5:42 am)|Trollin Train]]}}

Junior Jenkins also had run-ins with the ghosts of [[Patti Chandler]] and seven-year-old Christopher Chandler, as Chris inexplicably believed that trolls would be frightened by these events. They were not and Jenkins was roundly mocked.

In another memorable event, Jenkins unsubtly asked for the numbers of the hookers [[Bryan Bash]] sent to Chris's house because Chris wanted sexy time.

==PS3 Destruction==
Trollin Train's most significant achievement came about when [[Surfshack Tito]] offered a number of "bounties" for achievements in trolling Chris, including a US$9,001 reward for anyone who could smash Chris's [[PS3]]. Due to a misinterpretation of Tito's criteria, Chris thought he could get the reward if ''he'' did the smashing and simply had Junior claim to witness it. The rest [[PS3#Destruction|is history]].

Though Chris [[Clyde and Tito PS3 E-mails|did not]] receive the $9,001, he managed to raise the money to buy a new PS3 over the course of a few days.

==The End==
Chris decided to drop the JenkinsJinkies persona after his last post on TrollinTrain about witnessing Chris destroying his PS3. It was later revealed after the leaking of the [[Jackie Emails]] that Chris dropped the act in fear that when the police raided the Trollin Train forums they would mistake him for a troll and subsequently [[Chris and the Law|arrest him]]. Since it's now likely that Chris has completely forgotten about his time as JJ, the Trollin Train forum has became inactive and all information has been freely published to the [[CWCki]].

==See also==
*[[Trollin Train]]
*[[JenkinsJinkiesCwckiApplication.MOV]]
*[[Disguises]]

[[Category:Chris's alter egos]]

Chris and sex

2015-01-25T14:39:31Z

Kaltenbrunner: /* Is Chris asexual? */

{{Honest}}
[[File:ShecameforCWC (200803).JPG|thumbnail|Pictures tell a million words, and in this case, a bit too many.]]
[[Chris]] has a warped view of '''sexual intercourse''' (a.k.a. '''hanky-panky''') as well as '''gender''', mostly stemming from stunted sexual development, a sheltered upbringing, and the warped worldview he acquired as a result. He first developed an understanding of sex from watching softcore porn on the HBO network around age 16. He describes pornographic films as "educational".<ref>[[Miyamoto Saga#Chris Sets the Record STRAIGHT]]</ref>

== Knowledge of sex and gender ==
In his mind, Chris has mastered all there is to know about sex, and now regards himself as a bit of a guru. He has said that kissing a woman is "magical and delightful... sweet and melting like ice cream or chocolate", a description he stole from ''[[Sailor Moon]]''.<ref>[[Mailbag 18#He might as well be talking about how to pilot the space shuttle|Mailbag 18]]</ref> In truth, for much of the time he was presenting this advice Chris had yet to even kiss a girl.<ref name="Jackie E-mails 2">[[Jackie E-mails 2]]</ref>

What he knows about sex he's picked up from rudimentary [[Manchester High School|high-school]] [[Dating education|sex education]] or [[List of Chris's Adam & Eve purchases|pornography]]. This has engendered many false beliefs in Chris which he sticks to religiously. Readers who brave his [[Chris Sex Logs|sex chat logs]] should immediately notice what's going wrong — Chris's fantasies are merely recreations of what he's seen in porno movies, rather than plausible sexual experiences. For example, he believed that [[Kacey]] would welcome a brutal tit-fucking followed by load after load of semen to the face.<ref>[[Kacey Phone Call]]</ref>

Other examples of Chris's crude misconceptions about sex abound. He mimics female porn stars' sex positions, spreads an imaginary vagina a yard across,<ref name="JR Eyes">[[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV]]</ref> thinks that the clitoris is located on the female body where the [[:wikipedia:Perineum|perineum]] is located on the male one<ref>[[September 2014 Facebook Posts#Introducing the Un-clit]]</ref> and believes that electric shocks to the vagina are pleasurable.<ref name="Cums cat">[[CWC Cums for a Cat]]</ref> He also seems to believe that a woman's vagina is higher up on the woman's body that it actually is;<ref>[[:File:SchuComicSP3P7.jpg]]</ref> this is undoubtedly due to his experience with his sex dolls [[Kimmi]] and [[Officer Nasty]]. The "missionary cowgirl" position mentioned in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]] is a contradiction in terms. He can't even get the most basic double entendres correct, wearing a "receiver's" terrible Mountain Dew parody shirt thinking it's an invitation for women to try and ride his [[Duck|broken penis]].<ref name="JR Eyes" /> He thinks that his [[Virgin with rage|virginity]] is a precious and sought-after treasure which women will come in droves to take (he even went so far as to use it as a bargaining chip to haggle with a prostitute), and believes that [[mass debating|masturbating]] ultimately makes him better at sex.

With Chris's [[Chris and English|slippery grip on language]], he is also noticeably confused about basic sexual terminology. For example, Chris told Ivy he had a "sticky dream" about her. When Ivy asked if he meant a wet dream, he replied, "No, that's when you pee yourself, silly!"<ref>[[Ivy Q&A#Threats]]</ref> While he may have the best of intentions, his word choices unwittingly present him in a very bad light. He refuses to use common terms — either medical or slang — for sex organs, instead calling penises "[[duck]]s" and "[[pickle]]s", and vaginas and vulvae "[[china]]" or "Tom-Tom" out of a childish aversion borne of disgust.

In [[August 2011]], Chris said he is into female domination<ref>[[Calling Out Jack Thaddius - Ahuviya]]</ref> (going as far as to draw Sonichu and Rosechu performing the act in [[Sonichu 10]]).

===Chris and gender===
Similar to [[Chris and religion|the topic of faith]], Chris's actual beliefs on gender are more complex than his stated beliefs. Over his life, he has developed a burning hatred of males [[JERKS#The_list_of_males_Chris_doesn.27t_hate|in general]], not unlike [https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Aeverine_Nieves another autist on ED] noted for his/her similarities to Chris. This likely spirals back to his bullying by other boys at school, not to mention the fact that Chris is known to fly into fits of [[Chris and his ego|jealous]] [[Chris and anger|rage]] whenever he sees [[Liquid Chris|a man more successful than him]], especially if [[Clyde Cash|that]] [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend Factor|man]] [[Wes Iseli|is]] [[China|getting some]] and [[Virgin with rage|he isn't]]. Inversely, whenever trolls invented a [[Sweetheart|girlfriend]] for him, Chris would make [[Lars' Ship has Sunk.MOV|childish Youtube videos]] [[SHE IS MINE NOW|wherein he would gloat]] to their supposed exes. Chris's infantile, jealousy-driven hatred of his own gender has even led him to label [[JERKS|all men]] [[Chris and hypocrisy|"barbarian[s]"]]. This bizarre view may also have contributed to his [[Tomgirl|decision to cross-dress]].

Inversely, Chris repeatedly asserts his reverence of women, and seems to have a comparatively glowing opinion of them, stating that he finds women "empathetic". But, as stated at the beginning of the section, the truth is more complicated. While Chris has always preferred female friends, and is known to be far more accommodating of lesbians than gay men, even going so far as to [[Chris and reality|identify as one himself]], in truth, Chris has a distinctly sexist view of [[Women's rights|women]]. Based on his failed attempts at getting girls at the mall, he has concluded that all girls are [[Boyfriend-free girl|already paired up]], [[Homos|lesbians]], or distracted with shopping. The notion that they might have good reasons for spurning his advances does not occur to him. By all accounts, Chris seems to place all women into one of two categories - organic [[Officer Nasty|sex]] [[Kimmi|toys]] who exist to submit to his every desire, or [[Barb|mother]] [[Gal-pals|figures]] who exist to dote on him, keep his child-like, responsibility-free lifestyle sustainable, and nurse his wounded [[ego]] whenever the need arises.

In [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]], he referred to women as another species. This seems to be hyperbole, but considering Chris' abysmal knowledge of the sciences, it is difficult to be sure.

Chris has an interesting grasp of stereotypical straight and non-straight behavior, too, insisting he's straight even as he acts like a stereotypical mincing, [[Tomgirl|crossdressing]] transsexual. This can be explained by his [[autism|lack of empathy or ability to pick up on social cues]], but given his reaction to being told he looks "gay" is to scream "NO I'M NOT!" and ignore anything else, it's unlikely he'll ever learn.

== Moral basis on sex and double standards ==
[[Image:DatingEducation.jpg|thumb|250px|69ing? Intercourse? ''Really''? In a ''children's'' comic? Because they should know all about this stuff.]]
{{quote|You have heard that it was said by them of old time, You shall not commit adultery: but I say to you, that whosoever looks on a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart.|Matthew 5:27-28}}

Sex as viewed through Chris's eyes is (partially) dictated by the Bible - or rather, by his religion, as Chris's Biblical knowledge is extremely poor. Chris is very strict on keeping to the word of God when male homosexuality is the topic, vehemently stating that he ''hates'' [[homos]], but with no hesitation views lesbian porn and approve of it [[Mass debating|masturbatorily]]<ref>[[CWC's Second Message]]</ref>, and as of 2014, seems to be adopting a more progressive view of even gay men and their rights (albeit begrudgingly). Another violation of his Christian morals is the fact that he planned on losing his virginity on the [[Third date|third or fourth date]] with his true [[sweetheart]] (read: first girl who will last three dates with Chris). This is, of course, blatant violation of the Christian value of marriage before sex.

The Bible also frowns upon [[Nudes|pornographers]], of which he is very guilty and holds no apparent [[Chris and remorse|remorse]]. These double standards cause many trolls to despise him, seeing as he selectively chooses what to denigrate and what is OK in his own personal dogma, although to be fair, the same is true of many Christians anyway.

Despite people pointing out these contradictions, even quoting passages of the Bible, he will deny it. This is most likely because he goes to [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|a very liberal church]], so any question about premarital sex is probably interpreted quite liberally, and Chris believes that his church and ''only'' his church defines the entirety of religious morality - as it applies to him, anyway. When Chris asks Rocky about passages quoted to him by [[trolls]], she only fuels his à la carte Christianity by saying things like sex before marriage is okay as long as the couple is in love, which contradicts Christian doctrine.<ref>[[Mumble 8]]</ref> In summary, Chris picks and chooses what parts of Christian doctrine suit his own prejudices, and disregards the ones that would interfere with his [[Love Quest]].

[[File:Female anatomy according to chris.png|thumb|A moderately detailed portrait of what Chris probably thought females looked like before his alleged 'losing of virginity' incident.]]

Chris seems to consider a female sexual partner as a rubber stamp over his (alleged) sexual orientation. Flying in the face of any moral system he's ever held, he announced his desire to upload on the Internet a video of his first full sexual intercourse, even if his hypothetical partner refused to consent to it.<ref>[[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence#The Introduction Image Space is NOT Ad Space (CCS)]]</ref> After further prodding, he added that he would simply hide the camera, record the event without her consent and blur her face before making the video public.<ref>[[Mailbag 31#In which Chris crosses yet another line]]</ref> In [[CCWC's Final Warning to the Second CWC]], Chris indicated that if a woman accused him of being gay in person, he would sexually assault them by demanding they submit to a kiss and allow him to videotape the act, possibly as a way of proving his straightness.

For Chris, as stated above, [[Women's rights|a woman is just a living, sentient sex-toy]], existing only to validate him as a heterosexual. As long as they're straight and younger than him, of course.

==Chris in the act==
[[Image:JULAY-small.gif|frame|right|Christian professing his love for "[[Julie]]".]]
Leaked tapes of Chris's audio sex with [[Julie]], and the infamous [[sex tape]] with [[Kimmi]] shed light on Chris as he acts out on his fantasies. In particular, the sex tape shows how Chris assumes ''female'' positions, notably riding on top of Kimmi in a scene straight out of a porno. It seems that Chris's entirety of knowledge about sexual relationships stems from ignoring the men in pornography (due to fear of becoming a [[homo]]).

However, it should be noted that in most of Chris's Rule 34 drawings the characters do tend to assume positions which are fitting for their gender, including Chris.<ref>For examples, see the [[Sonichu 8#The uncensored scenes|uncensored panels]] from Sonichu 8, [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack]], [[CWCRockin4Way.jpg]], the [[Giant Penis Comic]] and [[Jackie E-mails 14]].</ref> It might be that Chris adopts female positions not so much due to ignorance regarding sex, but more because of [[Tomgirl pictures|his identification with the opposite gender]].

Chris's view of cunnilingus, put on display in [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV]], involves slobbering all over a woman's vagina. Despite all his knowledge of porn, he fails to see how cunnilingus is more than just slobbering, but proper tongue action to stimulate the clitoris.

In the leaked media, Chris displays that he may have some issues with delayed orgasm. This can either be physiological (bent [[duck]], [[Obesity|being overweight]], lack of endurance) or psychological (performance anxiety, high expectations, intrusive [[homos|homoerotic]] thoughts, subconscious guilt about sex) in nature, or a combination thereof.

==Staying straight==
{{see also|Homos#Fear of being a homo|l1=Fear of being a homo}}

==Is Chris asexual?==
Some autistics simply do not understand sexual attraction (for example, high-functioning autistic and [[Wikipedia:Hugbox|hugbox]] inventor Temple Grandin chooses to be celibate because she admits that she really does not understand sexual attraction and that she lacks the ability, as a consequence of her autism, to engage in a sexual relationship). This could explain some of Chris's views regarding sex and romance; he genuinely cannot understand the appeal of most sexual activity, aside from the fact he's seen people in the media do it and that he thinks that sex is something all men need to experience in order to become complete adults.

As the act of sexual intercourse and relationships in general are fairly social activities, it's quite possible that Chris views the act of losing his virginity as something of a rite of passage - something he needs to do in order to validate his own sexuality and prove to the world that he's a capable "adult". Chris also fails to realize that relationships are give and take. Every sweetheart that Chris has had, which eventually turned out to be a troll involved long, received relentless emails and calls in which Chris prattled on and on about how much he "loved" them and how he was looking forward to finally having sex. After supposedly losing his virginity, it's unknown if he still craves sexual intercourse as much as he did before. One thing is still certain, however, is that he still fervently desires the attention of a sweetheart.

After he was introduced to the term by his Mailbag correspondents, Chris took to interpreting and using "asexual" as an insult. In his [[CWCipedia]] page on [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia Page)|The Wallflower]], he referred to her as a "Got-Dang Asexual Woman!". He also became very offended when [[Jackie]] implied that he liked [[video games]] more than women, ranting that she should not label him as asexual (and misses her point completely).<ref name="Jackie E-mails 2" />

However, considering Chris's incessant shoehorning of entirely unnecessary sex into the comics, and the ludicrous efforts he goes to to get some [[China]], he does seem to possess sexual desire - though not necessarily for women, as these things could simply be part of his efforts to disprove his much-feared [[homosexuality]].

==Pedophilia==
{{main|Pedofork}}

==Bestiality==
{{quote|I can imagine myself doing it with a [[Patti-chan|collie]] at least. you know, like Lassie.|Chris to [[PandaHalo]]<ref name="collie">[[IRC (27 December 2008)]]</ref>}}
[[File:PattiLuv.jpg|thumb|Run, [[Patti-chan|Patti]]!]]
[[File:Super-mode.jpg|thumb|left|90px|Chris, sporting a [[ECV 00002‎|homemade fursuit]].]]

In [[December 2008]], Chris told [[PandaHalo]] he would be willing to have sex with a female (because he's not a homo) dog for her.<ref name="collie" /> However, in his [[Chris-chan Discusses...‎|interview with ScrewAttackEurope]], Chris says he's against bestiality, then hoists himself by his own petard by claiming that Sonichu & co. are not "half-humans" but "all-animals" with human form, so technically, this isn't bestiality, as they're animals having sex with each other, not vice versa.

Chris suggested that Brian from ''[[Family Guy]]'' be paired up with "any sexy breed" of dog.<ref>[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Family_Guy#Story_of_the_CWC_Episode_for_.22Family_Guy.22 Family Guy Article on the CWCipedia]</ref>

In [[The Red-Maned Deer]], Chris recites a poem he wrote about having sex with a deer, but at the end of it states, "This was, in fact, NOT an act of bestiality. For you see, the Red-Maned Deer I have been communicating with and tracking, is really...my lo-my womanly sweetheart, named [[Jacklyn Romy]]."<ref>[[The Red-Maned Deer]]</ref> The fact that the deer is Jackie is obvious, but in spite of this he explicitly stated that it was her at the end.

In a photo of the [[Rental House]] from June 2014, the Chandler minivan bears a bumper sticker reading "I Sleep with Dogs".<ref>[[:File:Chandler Cars 1600w.jpg]]</ref> What exactly this means is yet to be determined.

===Is Chris a furry?===
Whether or not Chris can actually be considered a furry is still [[Mass debate|debated]].<ref>From [[Sarah May Skype Logs#Chris tries to leave|the Sarah May Skype Logs]]: [7:17:25] '''Sarah May''': Did you feel sexually aroused when you drew them? [7:17:34] '''Christopher C.W.C.''': a bit.</ref> There are some things that point in that direction. [[Chris-chan Sonichu]] is in many ways similar to a fursona. Chris has also used the character while cybering with [[Julie]].<ref name="Cums cat" /> Finally, in the [[Giant Penis Comic]], Chris and [[Ivy]] both morph into fursonas during the act of sex. However, it has been confirmed by [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] that Chris has prejudice against furries, not because of who they are, but because many furries tend to be [[homos]].<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Racism and homophobia]]</ref>
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==Prostitution==
Given how badly Chris wanted to lose his [[Virgin with rage|virginity]], many observers have wondered why he didn't immediately spent some of his [[monthly tugboat]] on a prostitute. [[Mumble 4]], from [[February 2009]], answered that question for a while. There, Chris explained that paying for sex would render the act "meaningless," and he was - in a rare display of common sense - afraid of contracting a sexually transmitted disease.

[[Image:Virginbreaker.png|thumb|Chris' leaked [[Facebook]] announcement that he had lost his virginity. Initially igniting a firestorm of controversy, Chris himself let it slip that she was found "somewhere on the backpage" soon after.]]

Needs must as the devil drives, though. While being blackmailed by [[Jack Thaddeus]] in the summer of [[2009]], Chris attempted to solicit the services of a Craigslist prostitute to fuck on camera so he could recover his hacked [[PlayStation Network]] accounts. After describing his personal problems to the prostitute, she hung up on him. Chris was apparently trying to get free sex from the hooker with long, rambling stories about his horrible life to try and gain sympathy. He was genuinely shocked when she didn't offer to fuck him out of pity, unaware that prostitutes, by definition, only have sex with men for money.

Previously, in [[March 2009]], [[Brian Bash]] had sent a trio of prostitutes to [[14 Branchland Court|Chris's house]] so he would no longer be a virgin with rage. [[Hooker incident|Hilarity ensued]].

By the beginning of [[2010]], Chris's views on prostitution had further softened. According to his [[Vivian Gee E-mails 2|conversations with Vivian Gee]], around the turn of the year he was attempting to save $100 out of his monthly budget to buy himself a whore for his 28th [[birthday]]. This, presumably, was the "hundred dollars for a damn hooker" he referred to when [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|begging the Wallflower for sex]] on YouTube in [[March 2010]].

Between [[April 2010|April]] and [[July 2010]], under the name of [[Carlos Chantor]], Chris tried to offer himself up as a male escort. He described himself as "[[Chris and reality|Experienced for Her Pleasure]]", with an [[obesity|average]] body type.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 6]]</ref>

Later, under the guise of his troll persona [[JenkinsJinkies]], Chris attempted to acquire the contact details of the hookers Brian Bash had previously hired. While it is possible that Chris merely wished to make his disguise more convincing by implying that 14 year old Jenkins wished to hire prostitutes, it seems far more likely that Chris actually was considering hiring Brian's girls.

In [[April 2012]] a [[Facebook]] status leaked in which Chris announced that he was no longer a virgin. Suspicion arose that this was due to the help of a hooker. Chris provided further evidence suggesting that the girl was a prostitute on 1 [[May 2012|May]] when he wrote in a [[Facebook#Hey, Trollies|Facebook note]] that his virgin breaker can be found "somewhere on the [[Wikipedia:Backpage|backpage]]", a website known for featuring sex service ads.<ref>[http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/19/opinion/kristof-not-quite-a-teen-yet-sold-for-sex.html?_r=1]</ref> On 28/29 June 2014 Chris openly admitted that his first time was with a prostitute, and that he had sex with her twice.<ref>[[Other documents#Chris's wingman]]</ref>

==Incest==
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[[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|Crystal]], Chris's imaginary twin sister, appeared as a [[:image:153-GirlfriendsGift.jpg|"girlfriend" card]] he made for ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh]]'', and her attractiveness and desirability are brought up several times in the [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'']] comics well after being established as Chris's twin. Chris has shown complete ignorance in matters incestuous before; his [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] are all related, but many of them are paired off with one-another, banging and some even [[Sonichu and Rosechu's children|having]] [[Sandy Rosechu|kids]].

Chris first expounded his views on incest to the internet on 31 [[January 2009]] during the [[Mumble 1|first Mumble chat]], when it was revealed that he did not fully understood the meaning of the word "incest". While he showed aversion toward incest in the chat, his condemnation of it was lukewarm, saying that he would only "definitely discourage that" and that lesbian incest is "possibly OK" due to no reproduction being involved. Compare this to his statements about male homosexuality from the same chat ("I hate homo males [...] I'd sooner have a [[Tomgirl Saga|sex change]] before I would ever turn into a homo") or to his statements about male homosexuality from earlier that month, saying that he would make it a crime and force its practitioners into having sex with members of the opposite gender.<ref>[[IRC (02 January 2009)]]</ref>

A year later, Chris's views became staunch. When a correspondent in the [[Mailbag]] pointed out that Chris's state allows cousin marriage but not same-sex marriage, Chris furiously denied it and wrote, "Cousin-Marriage is just as Terrible and Unholy as MARRYING YOUR OWN MOTHER OR FATHER!"<ref>[[Common Questions#5 January 2010]]</ref> When another correspondent responded to Chris by saying that he is happily married to his cousin and that their marriage is indeed legal in Virginia, Chris answered him by saying he was destined to hell for his relationship.<ref>[[Mailbag 34#Good luck in hell]]</ref> When the subject came up again in the next mailbag, Chris said that sexual relations between cousins are just as wrong as incest between parents and their children or between siblings, and that all those relationship were condemned in the "same part" of the Bible, <ref>[[Mailbag 35#I think he wanted a specific verse]]</ref> which is not actually true. <ref> [[http://www.cousincouples.com/?page=religion]]</ref>

==Rape==

{{Protip|Despite your worst fears, Chris won't rape anybody, so stop saying and [[A-Logging]] that.}}

Chris is very apathetic about the idea of rape. When [[PandaHalo]] told him she was raped by [[Clyde]], he reacted nonchalantly. He even thought it would be appropriate for Panda to move in with her rapist, whom he called a "good man" for regretting the rape and for being willing to take care of the ensuing child.<ref>[[IRC (21 January 2009)]]</ref> Later on, long after the PandaHalo saga was over, he would wish her and her rapist a happy marriage.<ref>[[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)#Sarah Cassandra McKenzie, A.K.A. PandaHalo]]</ref> In [[iPods Down and Listen Up]], he doesn't seem to realize that his improvised lyrics detail a sexual act that would almost certainly be construed by others as rape. More recently, he has taken to comparing his ordeals with the trolls to rape in his Facebook posts.

As far as ''Chris'' being a potential rapist is concerned, during a particularly [[IRC_(23_July_2009)|disturbing chat]], he ([[:File:BillRiley.jpg|incognito]]) suggested that the trolls make him rape [[Rocky Shoemaker]].

In all likelihood, though, these parts of his behavior are most likely explained by the keys to understanding his behavior overall: his ignorance about the world and his persecution complex causes him to be quite [[naive]] about how bad rape actually is. With the Rocky situation above, he likely said that as part of an odd, roundabout scheme to get the trolls arrested, but it's still pretty ''fucked up'' that he'd even suggest something like this, let alone tell her about it after.

One might assume that he will one day try to rape someone due to this mindset and stalker tendencies, but this scenario is highly unlikely. For instance, he tried to kiss [[Emily]] and gave up when she said no,<ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#A precious farewell (1:29:35–1:31:10)]]</ref> showing that he does understand the importance of consent....or at least, he ''used'' to. Unfortunately, it seems that as of 2014, he has decided that he won't take "no" for an answer, and basically ''molested'' [[Catherine#The_Date|Catherine during their second outing]] by hugging her and burying his head in her breasts even after she flatly told him not to. This gets even more disturbing when you consider [[Catherine_E-mails#It_IS_Your_Fault.21|this e-mail]], where Chris outright says that he's [[Chris and his Ego|"entitled to a relationship"]].

He also does not have a history of violence (indeed, quite, quite the opposite), and anyway, aside from his [[Death_threats#Likelihood_of_Acting_Out_on_Death_Threats|habit of dishing out threats he can't possibly carry out]], Chris is physically [[Chris and Health|very weak and unfit]], and simply could not overpower an able-bodied person - the only outcome of him attempting it would be a swift knee to the [[duck]] followed by a rousing round of [[Kick the Autistic|America's favourite game]]. However, given Catherine's experience with Chris during their outing ''(in her words, she was taken by surprise and couldn't react to it)'', potential sweethearts should still exercise some caution around him.

==See also==
*[[ShecameforCWC]]
*[[Homos]]
*[[Naive]]
*[[Women's rights]]
*[[Semen]]
*[[Mass debating]]
*[[Duck]]
*[[Pickle]]
*[[Chris and his Ego]]
*[[Chris Sex Logs]]

== Sources ==
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White knight

2015-01-24T21:23:21Z

Kaltenbrunner:

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[[Image:Jack's Knight as William Spicer.jpg|thumb|right|180px|Artist's conception.]]

{{quote|Isn't there a white knight upon a fiery steed?|Chris, [[CWC Music Video Holding Out For a Hero|CWC Music Video ~ "Holding Out For a Hero"]]}}

'''White knight''' is a term used to describe someone who goes on the Internet to help or defend someone else on the Internet against other people on the Internet out of pity or compassion. White knighting of Chris is especially prevalent because of the unprecedented amount of abuse he has taken, which in turn is caused by Chris's total inability to heed the white knights in his life.

'''Counter-trolls''' are those who take Chris's side to spite his legion of [[trolls]]. Some do this because trolling one gullible idiot is less satisfying than trolling trolls, who actually have the ability to understand what is going on. Others have decided that Chris has jumped the shark and are trying to make everyone else leave him alone to put a stop to an old meme. Counter-trolls are not to be confused with [[anti-troll]]s, who fight trolls in order to get closer to Chris and troll him themselves.

A meta-topic within the broader Chris saga has been the merits of attempting to help Chris stop being such an epic lulzcow, and whether he is deserving of such assistance or even beyond help. The consensus on forums such as the talk page for Chris's [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] article, /cwc/, [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC]], and [[Sonichu (IRC chat)|#sonichu]] is that Chris's [[racism]], [[Chris and Sex|homophobia]], and [[Chris and his Ego|narcissism]] make him beneath contempt; and that he has consistently refused to take advice given to him in good faith. White knights and counter-trolls are considered to be wasting everyone's time and trolls have little patience for them.

==Motives==

===Pity===
Following the release of Chris's first [[nudes|nude photos]] and the [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 21st, 2008|21 October 2008 video]] in which he reacted to the loss of his [[medallion]]s and [[Blanca]], many people, including trolls, felt sorry for him. They had not expected it to be possible for him to be trolled so hard or for him to appear so shattered.

===Empathy===
The Internet is full of autistic people, man-children, and self-absorbed morons. Many of them are right here, fascinated with Chris-chan. All of them see something of themselves in him, whether it's his all-consuming need for female companionship or his fervent belief that his homemade comics matter. A lot of white knights have made at least some of the mistakes Chris has made and have since wised up. They think they can help improve Chris by offering the benefit of their experience.

BAAAAAAAW! ''[[Kick the Autistic]]'' is a cruel game. Quit it!

===Circumstances beyond Chris's control===
Chris fails to identify people, a possible sign of [[Wikipedia:Prosopagnosia|Prosopagnosia]]. [[BlueSpike|Julie and her brother Max]] used the same voice, and yet Chris couldn't recognize that they were the same person. Pictures of different women were used to depict [[Blanca]], and yet Chris thought they were the same person. Chris believed that pictures of [[Wikipedia:Megan Fox|Megan Fox]] were of [[Wikipedia:Vanessa Hudgens|Vanessa Hudgens]].<ref>[[Vanessa AIM Chat 9|Vanessa AIM Chat IX]]</ref> In high school, Chris memorized his appearance in the mirror because he had trouble recognizing himself.<ref>[[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]] - [http://thedailypos.org/misc/sonichu/Issue%207/SchuComic8Page24.jpg "...I had to train my brain to visually remember what I looked like..."]</ref> Since he probably hasn't "updated" his self-image, this is a possible explanation regarding why he denies being fat.

Chris cannot "read between the lines" or otherwise interpret subtlety. He interprets ''[[Family Guy]]'' as being against homosexuality.<ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate March 10th, 2009]]</ref> When two male acquaintances exchanged sarcastic homosexual remarks, Chris concluded that they were gay.<ref>Anecdote by [[Mimms]].</ref>

===The trolls are even worse people than Chris===
Another frequently heard line of reasoning is that the trolls have gone way too far, and have demonstrated that they're even worse than Chris, or at least equally pathetic. For example, [[BlueSpike]]'s sadistic abuse of his control over Chris [[BLUESPIKE#Encyclopedia_Dramatica_Troll_War|outraged even trolls]]. And, of course, who really has no life here: Chris, or the people who [[CWCki|obsessively document and debate everything he does]]?

===For the sake of Barbara's sanity===
At this point in time it is safe to say that Chris's remaining parent has been just as fatigued as Chris by the actions of trolls. Some argue that [[Snorlax]] should not have to suffer for his wrongdoings, and therefore think that Chris should be left alone just so she can enjoy the last few years of her life in peace.

==Reasons against white knighting==
===Chris could have ended the trolling whenever he wanted to, but didn't===
All Chris had to do to end the trolling was to stop responding to it. If he would have done this small step, this whole debacle would have never happened. The trolls had nothing personal against Chris; They just decided he was a worthy target after reading Sonichu and seeing how he spazzed out at his page on Encyclopedia Dramatica. As soon as he would have quit responding to their provocations and quit posting videos of himself tard raging on YouTube, the trolls would have just moved on to someone else. Instead, Chris tried to "fight back" against them, in turn revealing more and more information about himself until the trolls knew all of his contact info and all the details of his life. That was when the trolling went past a point of no return, spilling into Chris' personal life so much that there would be absolutely no way for him to ever disassociate himself from it. Even when he was away from the computer, he found himself subjected to trolls calling his cell phone, sending him mail, and following him around in public. While the obsessive trolling was nothing less than shitty, the fact still remains that Chris was the one who allowed them to have such control over his life thanks to him always overreacting to every little provocation and him handing over all his personal information to them.

There is also the theory that Chris does things for trolls to mock him merely for the attention.

===Chris lacks empathy himself===
:''See also: [[Chris and death]] and [[Chris and his Ego]].''
Chris cannot put himself in your shoes or accept that you have been where he is. He has no "theory of mind": if you used to be as shy around women as he is today, in his mind the fact that you aren't shy anymore makes your experience inapplicable to his situation. To Chris, the fact you got over it and he hasn't yet makes the two cases entirely different. He doesn't want to solve his problems by trying what worked for you, he only wants you to pity him for having problems, until he magically dreams up [[Dating education|his own solution]].

:'''RocketFox:''' My father died of liver cancer and cirrohosis a day ago ;~; he drank a ton and it hurt him - I'm only 11 and I dunno what to do ;~;
:'''Chris:''' RocketFox, you will soon recover from your father's accident, I guess it is; DO NOT DRINK Alcohol yourself; STAY OFF THAT JUNK.<ref>[[IRC (16 October 2008)]]</ref>

Chris's interpretation of the death of RocketFox's dad as an accident shows that he didn't even bother to look up what cirrhosis is. Immediately after this, he started talking about a sexy dance.

Chris's reactions to suicide are very telling. After [[Ryan Cash]] died because of Chris, Chris marvelled at the fact that he had incited suicide, right after he tried to publicly console [[Clyde Cash]].<ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate December 28th, 2008]]</ref> When [[Sarah May]] attempted suicide because of Chris, his reasons for her to stay alive were "I'd feel terrible" and "I'd just cry."<ref>[[Mumble 8|Mumble #8]]</ref><ref>[[CWC Shout Out to Sarah May]]</ref> When Chris broke up with [[Ivy]], he somehow concocted, in his head, an assumption that she had committed suicide. Even after having lost so many dear friends to suicide, he still had no problems telling Clyde and [[Jack Thaddeus]] to [[death threats|kill themselves]]. Many people who have had to deal with suicidal people or have lost relatives and friends due to suicides themselves might not exactly find this amusing.

In the [[Common_Questions#22_February_2010|22 February 2010]] edition of the [[CWCipedia]]'s "Common Questions", Chris listed the top ten worst things to have ever happened to him. The deaths of "two True and Good Women who [he] had friendships with," [[PandaHalo]] and [[Sarah Jackson]], ranked seventh. Those tragic events ranked below getting banned from a game store, finding out two people from said store were posting info about him on ED, and having his personal websites hacked.

On [[Twin Falling Towers|1 November 2009]], Chris made a video involving Clyde being as "weak as the Twin Towers" and used his mouse cursor as a plane flying into them.<ref>[[Twin Falling Towers]]</ref>

When Rashid Ali Abdul, an Iranian [[fan]], told him that her country's religious authorities sentenced her to death by beheading for reading ''Sonichu'', Chris only said that he was sorry and that the situation was "pitiful".<ref>[[Mailbag 8|Mailbag #8]]</ref>

While some of this can be attributed to Chris's [[autism]], a condition that often results in a lack of empathy, most autistics can at least learn how to express empathy through a combination of carefully reading the emotions of others and thinking about how a situation affects other people. Chris refuses to seek serious counselling or psychiatric help for this sort of thing. However, due to [[28 October 2011|his run-in with the law in 2011]], he was forced to seek professional help or face jail time.

===Autism does not excuse a terrible person===
Chris knows he has trouble understanding non-verbal social cues due to his autism,<ref>[[Quizzes#Autism Quiz]]</ref> and yet he still jumps the gun on interpreting other people's intentions all the time.

Autism, in and of itself, does not create a failure as massive as Chris-Chan. A majority of autistics manage to get psychiatric help for their problem and/or are able to develop social and emotional skills so they can cope with their disability and lead rewarding and rich lives. Yet while Chris acknowledges he has a problem, he refuses to do anything more than see the [[Rocky Shoemaker|pastoral counselor]] at his church, who is not a professional trained in the treatment of autism spectrum disorders.<ref>[[Vivian's AIM chat]]</ref> However, after the events of [[28 October 2011]], Chris was forced to seek psychiatric help or face jail time. While this may have helped him become more humane, [[Chris and his Ego|experience]] suggests that any impact will be minimal at best unless Chris cooperates.

Chris is fully capable of understanding the consequences of his actions. He has a sense of morality (even if he often ignores it in favor of his own selfish interests). He would be (and has been) held accountable for his own actions in a court of law (and rightfully so). His racism, homophobia, and chauvinism have nothing to do with his autism.

===Chris is beyond pity===

[[Image:Chrischantwoface.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's mood is all over the place, even between videos posted shortly after each other. "[[Happy Sonichu Day|Thank you for your support]]"... "[[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|Goddamn womanizing raping trollin' stupid pickle-suited '''nigger'''!]]"]]

Chris often reacts to provocation aggressively, which is quite an understandable (if not acceptable) response to trolling. However, "provocation" in this case doesn't necessarily mean harassment or trolling. Merely disagreeing with Chris or asking him why he does what he does can provoke an attack, up to and including threats of violence and death. When Chris is annoyed, frustrated, or overcome by desire or lust, he's capable of doing [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|''nasty'']] [[Death threats|things]]. Moreover, when Chris loses it, he doesn't think of the consequences of his actions at all, and his expressions of outrage are completely out of proportion to the provocation — often more outrageous in themselves than whatever the trolls did.

Chris [[Yu-Gi-Oh!|insulted little kids]] during card games and scared some of them away from [[The GAMe PLACe]]. [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]], who frequented The GAMe PLACe and knew Chris in real life years before he was discovered by the Internet, couldn't list any redeeming qualities he possessed.

Chris sexually harassed a [[Megan|woman]] in real life. Megan made it explicitly clear to him that his physical contact and comments to her were unacceptable, but he continued anyway, convinced that eventually she would learn to love being molested by a mentally ill man-child and become his [[Sweethearts|Sweetheart From The Ground-Up]].

After Megan yelled at Chris for uploading [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|a picture of him fingerbanging her]] to [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]], he did not apologize,<ref name="Megan Saga">[http://encyclopediadramatica.es/Chris-chan/Megan_Saga Megan Saga]</ref> but rather explained to her (in a terribly [[naïve]] way) how a handjob works, under the misguided assumption that she merely was upset because she didn't recognize the sex act being performed, or in the hope that she would rationalize what he did on this basis. He then had the nerve to say to her, "I am hurting SOOOOO MUCH MORE than you can be."<ref name="Megan Saga"/> Why? Not because of the picture, but because the trolls were being mean to him. Yes, [[Chris and his ego|''him'']]. Based on [[List of Chris's ED edits|his ED edits]], he was more concerned with people thinking he was fingering his [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|imaginary twin sister]] than he was with defending Megan's honor.

Years later, Chris would even go so far as to totally demonize Megan for rejecting his 'good intentions', posting her address up on his [[Facebook]] profile in the hopes that trolls would find it and punish her for him. On October 3rd and 4th 2013, he took this even further, posting [[October_2013_Facebook_Posts#Megagi_La_Skunk_agrees_that_you_should_have_never_been_born|an unbelievable multi-part tirade]] about Megan on Facebook, wherein he accused her of being the leader of a vast troll conspiracy against him and claimed to have consorted with a [[Chris and reality|fictional]] [[Megagi La Skunk|character]] Megan once made for him, who supposedly told Chris that Megan should never have been born. As if this wasn't enough insanity on it's own, Chris proceeded to demand that Megan fix his entire life, and he, in return, would give back her confiscated superpowers. You just can't make this up.

After each of his online relationships ends, Chris starts looking for a new [[sweetheart]] right away, ''even if she died''. No matter the setback, his ego just keeps getting bigger.

In mid-July 2009, he addressed a person named [[The July 10th Messages|"SonichuIzCool"]] on YouTube. SonichuIzCool was (''is'') probably the only genuine fan of ''Sonichu'' discovered to date, someone who tried to defend Chris and his comic. She was also genuinely mentally retarded. In his YouTube message, Chris called her "naïve and [[slow in the mind]]." He told her she had to "come out where [he] can meet [her]." Another side of this incident is that his YouTube account had been recently hacked, and he had managed to recover it this time, thus avoiding all of the nasty evil damage the trolls ''might'' have caused. After he posted this video, though, he got his account suspended due to ''his own actions''.

In early November 2009, in his attempt to blackmail Clyde Cash, Chris went so far as to mock the terrorist attacks of the [[Twin Falling Towers|World Trade Center]] on 9/11. When feeling angry at Clyde Cash, he not only thought it would be a good idea to blackmail him, but used the ''destruction of two skyscrapers full of people after being hit by airliners full of jet fuel and human beings'' as a metaphor for how weak he thought Clyde was. When people got angry, he tried to fix things by turning the WTC towers into cake candles. To the best of anyone's knowledge, Chris was never coaxed or encouraged by an outside source to use the WTC images. He came up with this reprehensible idea all on his own.

[[Image:MikesWedding.jpg|thumb|right|Happily forever after.]]

In January 2010, a fan named Mike Jackson asked Chris for advice, whether he should [[Mailbag 31#If your kids are 16 or 17, you should watch porn with them|watch porn with his family]] and [[Mailbag 35#In which Chris advises a father to buy his son whores|buy a prostitute for his son]], Mike Junior, or not. Chris, being such an [[Dating Education|expert]], encouraged him to do so. In the end Mike Jr. ran away with the prostitute, and Mike asked Chris to make a [[YouTube]] video asking his son to come back home. Unfortunately, Chris was under a lot of [[stress]], and could not make the video. Mike Jr. is now married to the prostitute in Las Vegas, and his father died from a sleeping pill overdose. Chris didn't even give a damn about the obituary linked by Mike's wife, offering her his infamous canned response in lieu of even pretending to give a fuck, and responded to his son's grief and anger with three words: [[Chris and remorse|"I am sorry."]]

===Chris cares only for himself===
Chris spends [[monthly tugboat|your tax money]] on luxuries and steals from his parents to buy [[PSN|video games]] he'll never play. He has the basic skills necessary to hold down a job, so long as it didn't require him to do much interacting with other people, and programs exist specifically to find appropriate jobs for the mentally challenged, but Chris hasn't even tried since being fired from [[Wendy's]].

Further reinforcing his selfishness and laziness, Chris and his family strongly agree it's better for him to hole up in his room and get paid for doing absolutely nothing than to seek out the challenge of finding gainful employment in the real world. This is based on the (untrue) assertion that Chris can earn more on disability than from a job. By taking advantage of the government through vastly exaggerated claims of an easily manageable illness which they refuse to help Chris treat, Chris's parents are assured a steady income in the form of his room-and-board payments, and don't have to worry about Chris getting in trouble with the law [[Chris and the Law|again]] when he has another breakdown in public.

But just in case you needed any solid proof of Chris' outright selfishness, it basically came straight from the horse's mouth during his trial. When asked if he understood that he'll be paying his court fees:

{{quote| "Yes. My mother will be taking care of that." |[[Christian Weston Chandler]]<ref>[[This_is_how_the_Trial_went]]</ref>}}

Keep in mind that the money being used to bail him out of [[28 October 2011|a mess that he caused]] is coming out of an ailing old widow's purse while Chris [[Chris and Money|nonchalantly throws his own money away]], as evidenced by his PSN activity mere months later. Also, in 2013, [[Facebook#I_have_had_more_freedom_when_my_father_was_alive|he further hammers this point home]] by complaining about having to take care of Barb with Bob's passing, concerned more about his free time and Michael Snyder taking his money away.

===Chris is not a good net citizen===
{{quote|I will have NO DISCUSSIONS GOING ON BEHIND MY BACK ON MY OWN WEBSITE WHATSOEVER!|Chris, on reader participation via [[Twitter]].}}
Chris is more concerned with spreading his own version of [[Honest Content|honest truth]] than being a good net citizen. He has adopted the mentality that most spammers have adopted: who cares about things like terms of service and account suspensions and masses of pissed-off people as long as his message gets through? He won't participate in the communities of the sites he posts on. This is not mere ''passivity'' in those communities, which is generally tolerable; he ''deliberately opposes'' such participation. Most people, while not bothering to contribute to communities, would at least not make deliberate efforts to hinder the community. On [[deviantART]], [[YouTube]] and [[Flipnote Hatena]], he disables all comments, probably because he knew he'd not get any praise anyway — yet this ignores the fact that open commenting is part of the nature of these sites and disabling comments should be done only if it's being clearly used for flagrant abuses of the system, like spam and votebotting. He regards YouTube purely as a video publishing venue and not as a tool for engaging in discussion with his "fans". He created his [[Wikipedia]] user page purely to spread his own message, and did not come to Wikipedia to participate in building an encyclopedia. If the site owners block him, he just comes up with another account or a sockpuppet. The thoughts of apologizing, getting old accounts reinstated, or the possibility that people who block him might be trying to send him a message never cross his mind.

Chris's behavior on [[CWCipedia]] provides many more examples of his selfish attitude, such as the banner ad crisis in late 2009. He doesn't understand what it ''really'' means that the website is neither hosted nor paid for by him personally, and what sort of things the administration typically does on a website like his. He can't or won't understand simple principles like "webhost's house, webhost's rules," or "beggars can't be choosers," but instead believes that since the site has his name on it, it should be run according to his every demand.

===Chris will reject your advice===
[[Image:0231-MrsSanfordsWiseWords.jpg|thumb|right|What are you going to tell Chris that his [[Virginia Jeanine Sanford|favorite teacher]] didn't tell him 15 years ago?]]
Someone [[White knight E-mails|carefully explained to Chris why he is a sexist]]. In response, Chris got angry. He is only interested in a guide on how to attract women without first making any changes to himself. Most ridiculously: he denies being [[Obesity|overweight]].

Read [[Vivitheg's AIM chat|Vivian's AIM chat]]. Vivian actually used to be a counter-troll, and warned Chris several times that [[PandaHalo]] was a troll. Chris fell for PandaHalo anyway. She then tried to talk some damn sense into him over AIM. But Chris proved to be so goddamn stubborn, she actually tossed the towel and became a troll out of spite. In Vivitheg's words: "i've tried for 3 hours now; it's like fighting a wall, i can't beat the wall no matter how hard i try." Not only has she long since joined the troll ranks, but Chris even began [[Sign Destruction Video|berating and sending threats]] to the woman who was once his biggest white knight ever.

===Chris will reject your disclosure of the truth===
* [[Hanna]] was a real life troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Lori Lopez]] was a real life troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Blanca]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[PandaHalo]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it, despite [[Vivitheg]]'s warnings.<ref>[[Vivian Gee E-mails]]</ref>
* [[Robert Simmons V]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[JK Productions]] was a troll pretending to be an entire videogame development company, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Sarah May]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Sarah Jackson]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Julie]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Ivy]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it, despite warnings from the counter-troll that must not be named.
* [[Vanessa Hudgens]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Emily]] was a real life troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Kacey]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it. She also married [[CChanSonichuCWC|the TRUE and HONEST Christian Weston Chandler]].
* [[Father Call|Matthew, Kacey's father]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Jackie]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it. [[February_2012|Twice.]]
* [[Catherine]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.

See a pattern here? Back in the day, Chris would've simply dismissed any attempt to open his eyes to the obvious as an attempt to "ruin his relationship/business partnership for the lulz".

As of 2012, however, it seems that Chris has done a 180 on this, where, out of [[Autism|sheer paranoia]], he believes that [[Megan Schroeder|anybody]]<ref>[[:File:Fbp10.png]]</ref> and everybody<ref>[[:File:Fbp6.png]]</ref> is a troll, even when he has no sane reason to reach that conclusion<ref>[[:File:Koreans.PNG]]</ref>.

Surprisingly, even in [[2014]], it was revealed that his latest girlfriend, [[Catherine]], was a troll construct. While [[CWCki Forums|the community observing Chris]] are [[Trolls#Today|no longer impressed]] by such [[weening]], it still shows that even after more than 6 years of trolls leading him around by his [[duck]], Chris has learned absolutely nothing.

===Chris's normal life is often weirder than the trolling===
Chris won't take your advice, so he will fall for trolling. Trolls do weird things and Chris believes almost everything. But even if Chris had no white knights or trolls, his life would still be weird.

Chris's own accomplishments, without any external suggestion or assistance, are sometimes even more jaw-dropping than what the trolls think up. His [[Chris and the Law#Law troubles|previous brushes]] with [[Jerkops|authority figures]] and his [[Attraction Sign|bizarre]] [[Fridays After Five|behavior]] during his outside leisure time are good examples.

===Chris asks for it, and always recovers===
Hellbent on spreading his version of the truth because he's TRUE and HONEST, Chris cannot realize that his edit warring on Encyclopedia Dramatica was practically a squeal begging for more trolling.

[[wiktionary:TMI|TMI]] is a tactic Chris uses that usually leads to him abusing himself. Since Chris insists on revealing the most minute details of his life to everyone he meets, the trolls always get more information to fuel further acts of trolling. White knights cannot stop our hero from being Honest.

Chris doesn't get embarrassed either. Oh, his nudes and lewd acts are all over the internet? No big deal! [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009|All adults do that kind of thing]], so what's the problem?

Chris managed to fully recover from the depressing [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 21st, 2008|21 October 2008 video]] mentioned above (and quite quickly, too) and proceeded to fail even harder for months. Likewise, despite professing great emotional distress, he bounced back from [[CWC is Sad|the loss of Kacey]] in [[Red Letter CWC Certified Day|a matter of hours]]. He even bounced back after being [[Mumble 9|verbally abused by a room of trolls]], one of whom told him to go kill himself. So what's the problem?

[[Image:Chriscash.jpg|thumb|right|180px|True, true.]]

===Chris made himself an outcast===
High school and college are the places and moments where people are given their first and often only chance to become a functioning part of society. They gave Chris an even greater chance because he's [[autistic]]. They lent him a friendly, caring hand and opened themselves to his friendship, males and females alike. And what did Chris do? He ''refused, by choice,'' to associate with anyone who wasn't female, young, rich, white, and within the Charlottesville area.

When [[Mary Lee Walsh|the dean]] gave him a chance to reform his behavior, he kept going with his bullshit, and was rightly kicked out of [[Piedmont Virginia Community College]] for a full year. What did he learn from that? He learned that Mary Lee Walsh was an evil hag with a personal vendetta against him. He was given ''several'' chances to learn that his [[Attraction sign|loitering and soliciting]] were not appropriate behavior in a public place, and what did he learn? He learned that mall cops are [[Jerkops]], that [[Virginia is for Virgins]], and that his [[Love Quest]] was a matter of him against the world, with the world in the role of the villain. After he was kicked out of The GAMe PLACe (where he was again given more leeway than most people ever would have gotten, out of a sense of misguided pity), he was barred from the last place in Ruckersville that was still open to him, and left with only one place: his home.

Now, it's too late for Chris. He was given a friendly hand, but he angrily bit it, and that hand will never reach out to him again. He doesn't even belong in his own home anymore. He spends most of his time in exile in his fantasy land of [[CWCville]], the one and only place still open to him, and that place ''doesn't even exist''.

===[[Stress]]===
In order to get close to Chris, white knights have to spend at least as much time and effort as trolls to get up-to-date and to thwart the troll output. They'd probably have to lie and pretend to be a girl or video game designer to even capture his attention. This combined with Chris's usual responses is enough to make any sane non-professional psychologist [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 21st, 2008|crash into slumber]].

===Chris will not even read your message===
The spam filter is a powerful innovation of good ol' America Online. Any e-mails sent to his private address will be deleted, probably unread, and any e-mails sent to the [[Mailbag]], if they even get published, will be [[Mailbag 29|given one-word replies and ignored]].

===The trolling will not cease===
Even if white knights get to Chris somehow, there is no endgame in which Chris will be free from trolls before his death.

In school, Chris was trolled by his classmates. He was even trolled by one of his [[Joshua Martinez|real life friends]]. In college, he was trolled by friends who grew sick of his bullshit (e.g. [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]]), and by [[Anna McLerran|girls]] [[Hannah|annoyed]] by his "attraction methods" and rampant, unabashed sexism. If Chris quit the Internet tomorrow, he would still be trolled by a society that refuses to tolerate ignorant man-children flouting its rules.

If everyone trying to create his next fake sweetheart suddenly got bored and quit, Chris would unwittingly attract new trolls to take their place, and we know newfags are more than willing.

If Chris isn't assigned a custodian after Barbara dies, his story will probably end when he falls victim to some con artist who swindles him out of his [[monthly tugboat]] and perhaps his home. If Chris does get assigned a custodian, he will continue his antics until the custodian kicks him out or bans him from the Internet. If the custodian bans Chris from the Internet, that's Chris trolling himself.

If Chris gets institutionalized, he will attract real life trolls at the mental hospital. If Chris does not go into an institution and instead ends up in prison due to [[28 October 2011|circumstances that cannot be foreseen]], he will be trolled there as well.

If the entire world reforms and decides to leave Chris alone, his own sense of victimization will override any benefit. Consider that Chris felt persecuted simply by observing [[Jerks|males who had more success than himself]]. He regards legitimate assertions of authority as rank brutality. [[Adam Stackhouse]] managed to upset Chris to a degree that CWC observers rate among the most impressive to date, and he did it without even knowing that Chris existed at the time. Bleak as it is, unless Chris embarks on a program of radical self-improvement and/or learns some humility, and manages against the odds to shake off both his legions of abusers and seamy reputation, he will forever feel like a [[Kick the Autistic|thoroughly-kicked autistic]].

===The trolling helps Chris and, indeed, others===
If Chris were just some random nobody on the Internet, he'd be doing nothing but playing video games and occasionally drawing unsellable comics until his parents died. Then he'd be institutionalized. He'd remain without social skills, a job, success or future.

Instead, Chris's antics have become a cultural phenomenon that — without exaggeration — is something extraordinary, unique, and which likely won't be replicated in any shape or form for years to come. Chris has secured his place among such luminaries as the Time Cube Guy and John Titor, and unlike the Time Cube Guy, you can actually comprehend what Chris is saying most of the time. Chris's interactions with the world through his websites and YouTube has drawn in a crowd of people who are participating in an unprecedented, continual piece of performance art of a kind that would have been unheard of only a few years ago. He brings entertainment to thousands of people all over the world, an accomplishment that most could never dream of achieving — the kind of thing that would give Dane Cook a stiffy just to consider. His Internet fame is actually a sort of success in its own right, and ''may'' bring him further success. There are thousands of people out there that are so fascinated by him that they study his life on a daily basis.

One could argue that if Chris eventually "retired" from this comedy act by actually coming to terms with his problems, seeking professional help, and completely reforming (and selling media rights to his life's story to the highest bidder, like all sensible people would do), he could live the rest of his life secure and probably moderately wealthy. The troll audience would give him a standing ovation for entertaining them for as long as he did, and move on to the next piece of tragicomedy brought to us by the emerging Web technologies. We have seen far more messed-up celebrity stories already; Chris's tale is at least quite different from the norm and engaging.

What's more, the trolls provide him with an actual social outlet to learn and grow in life. Instead of being an unemployable, fat, virgin bedroom-dweller that nobody has ever heard of, he's an Internet-famous unemployable, fat, virgin bedroom dweller and this by itself increases his chances of getting friends and a girl. He may even end up employed, too, probably appearing in an advertisement or sponging off royalties from any biographical medium, whether it be a book, movie, or TV series. He could become the next William Hung if he put half an ounce of effort into it.

Also, Chris's constant failure at life has inspired [[Autism#Chris and other autistics|hundreds]] to self-improvement. Really, he's accomplishing a pretty good thing here.

===Chris treats "fans" and white knights like crap===
If you try to white knight him, his response is merely to block you on YouTube, AIM or any other messenger service and never respond. He accuses practically all white knights of being trolls. Quite ironic, isn't it? He screams "I'M STRAIGHT!" when you tell him up front that you're a guy. When you tell him his current "girlfriend" is actually a troll, he'll accuse you of wanting to "break up the relationship for the lulz." He'll be rude, won't listen and won't read between the lines. He will always bite the hand that feeds him, so you should just let him wallow in his own self loathing.

{{quote|Whatever.|Send Chris a 400-word, well-reasoned email — get a [[Mailbag 29#Whatever|1-word reply]] back.}}
{{quote|You can go f*** yourself.|[[Mailbag 43#Go Fuck Yourself, too!|A not-so reasonable reply]] to reasonable criticism.}}

Chris doesn't treat his (perceived) fans much better. Even aside from the SonichuIzCool incident mentioned above, Chris has severe problems answering questions from his fans (or trolls who pretend to be positive fans), and will often react in a hostile manner to everything he sees as negative or offensive. His [[Mailbag]] is the most obvious example. He hates being corrected, and tenaciously clings to his misinformed beliefs; his insistence that Asperger's Syndrome and autism are unrelated is a good example of this. When, or if, he's having a good day and manages to answer questions from fans at all, he often gives them very brief, one or two word answers that do not elaborate on anything, or outright ignore parts of the question. Not only is he terse, he's also slow to act; for example, it [[Brutal Legend Plus|took him three days to realize]] that a [[Brutal Legend|video he uploaded]] was seriously broken. He also promised that [[Sonichu Fan Promo|a spectacular fan creation]] would be officially featured in the ''Sonichu'' comic — and it ultimately was, ''over a year later''.

Most webcomics have a specific schedule that they have decided to follow. Many webcomics fail to live up to them – some less, some more; some for good reasons, some have no excuse whatsoever. Chris didn't have a set schedule for the comic for the longest time, but then agreed to update the comic on a daily basis, a schedule which even the most well-funded webcomic artists would consider particularly demanding. In February and March 2010, there have been few updates to the comic. When the inevitable complaints about schedule slip started to come, Chris snapped at his fans by saying that inspiration takes its time, forgetting that it was ''he'' who decided daily updates were the way to go. As the "Great Director Chandler", he could have the power to decide what schedule to follow, but instead, he chose to attack his fans.

===Chris' upbringing doesn't justify his actions===
The shitty way [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] and [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] raised him may be an ''explanation'' for why Chris is so fucked up, but it's not an ''excuse''. Plenty of people have bad childhoods. Plenty of people have had abusive and/or incompetent parents. However, these people don't use that as an excuse for bad things they do. They get therapy and move on. Chris, on the other hand, remains dependent on the same people who screwed him up, and doesn't even try to move past his childhood. Instead, he escapes into a world of fantasy and pornography, while rationalizing his actions as being justified. There's also the fact that [[Cole Smithey]] grew up in the same household with the same parents, and yet he lives a normal, successful life. Meanwhile, Chris behaves like an overgrown child, draws unpublishable comics, stuffs his face with garbage, gets in trouble for the most trivial reasons, and generally is extremely antisocial.

===Chris' life would still be a disaster even if the trolls never bothered him===
Today, Chris is a total human trainwreck, slowly losing the last of his sanity as each day goes by. While the systematic trolling of him throughout the last few years had doubtless contributed to his degrading mental state (especially his extreme paranoia and distrust for everyone except his mom and pastor), the fact still remains that his life's horrible state is mainly caused by factors outside of the internet. He would still be a lonely outcast, as his poor upbringing gave him such warped views of the world and led him to engage in such bizarre behavior that he drove away every person he tried to connect with. He would still be living in unsanitary living conditions due to Barb's hoarding and the fact that his house has not been cleaned in the better part of a decade. He would still be banned from all of his favorite hangouts due to his loitering and hostile behavior to other patrons. Also, at the core of it all is how Chris decided that he would be better off living off government handouts while drawing unpublishable comic books in his room instead of getting a job and heading down a career path, which would have been his one-way ticket to escaping the cesspool that is [[14 Branchland Court]] and living a fulfilling life, not unlike that of [[Cole Smithey|his half brother]]. Instead, he decided to remain dependent on his elderly, emotionally disturbed parents; look at how well that worked out for him.

True to this statement, Chris all but abandoned the Internet between [[July 2012]] and [[2013]], save for sporadic [[Facebook]] posts. Despite this, quite a bit was still revealed about how well he is doing independent of the trolls' influence. He [[Other_documents#Epistle_to_the_Wesley_Memorial_United_Methodist_Church|recently alienated himself from his church]], earning a ban from the new pastor (undoubtedly because Chris wouldn't shut the hell up about the trolls). In that same letter, he even dismisses [[Rocky Shoemaker]] as an effective counselor (keep in mind that Rocky once bailed him out of jail, which is quite an extraordinary act of kindness, counsellor or not), and went so far as to accuse [[Chris and religion|God]] of being a troll. He even describes his life as isolated and lonely, with nobody willing to talk to him, a scenario many people have tried and failed to warn him about. He even earned some ire from Anna, his biggest white knight for [[Facebook#Gay_Marriage|making anti-homo statements]] on his Facebook page, even choosing to argue with her instead of trying to piece together why a lesbian friend of his would find such statements offensive. As a coup de grace on all of this, Chris ended up trolling himself in the grandest fashion by revealing an [[Facebook#Imgur|Imgur account]] made of all of his previously hidden Facebook posts, despite trolls (save for the one who started it) being completely in the dark about it.

Even if all of that doesn't convince you for some reason, consider this: Chris came this close to being thrown in jail, not [[28 October 2011|once]], but [[26 December 2014|twice]], both incidents involving assault on innocent people trying to protect their customers from him. He did this all on his own with no prodding from the trolls. And make no mistake, '''all''' of his defenders were thoroughly disgusted by Chris's actions, none of which were eager to defend his macing assault on an innocent employee--even those who helped support his [[Sonic Boom Protests]] before.

If we were to be extraordinarily generous and assume that none of the disasters which have befallen Chris since the trolling efforts began in earnest would otherwise have happened, the facts ''still'' indicate that Chris's life would have been a complete mess. Chris was discovered by the internet at large in late 2007, by which point he had already been suspended from college, and banned from the [[Charlottesville Fashion Square|Fashion Square]] (twice), along with his local branches of [[Mal-Wart|Wal-Mart]] and [[Get-Tar Region|Target]], only avoiding criminal charges for the ruckus he caused at the latter because the state didn't feel it was worth the effort to pursue the case. As recently as two months before the "official" start of the trolling of Chris, he was making death threats against Adam Stackhouse and his pre-teen sister, for the former's unwitting disruption of Chris's plan to lose his virginity with Megan, something that she had made clear she had no interest in doing. It may be a depressing conclusion to arrive at, but there's nothing that anyone outside of the confines of 14 Branchland Court could have reasonably done to prevent Chris's life from being a trainwreck.

===Chris's white knights are making him worse===
A quick glance at the comments on his Facebook statuses should confirm this. Even after he ''committed a felony'' by assaulting a GameStop employee with pepper spray on Boxing Day 2014, and then posted a long-winded, obviously dishonest tirade painting himself as an innocent victim on Facebook, none of his white knights offered anything more than a softly-worded, mild condemnation of his behavior. Some avoided a direct response altogether, and made some barely relevant comment that conspicuously avoided the main point of Chris's self-serving drivel, probably a feeble and misguided attempt to defuse his [[Chris and anger|rage]].

And this is how his white knights react whenever he gets angry about having to face the consequences of his own behavior. It's painfully clear to Chris's trolls and other observers that his white knights are woefully ill-equipped to deal with Chris. The reactions his tantrums garner from them clearly indicate that they remain ignorant (passively or otherwise) to facts that most learned long ago; namely, that the "soft touch" has never worked with Chris, and only serves to reinforce his belief that he should be given whatever he desires (its even getting to the point that he is openly stating that he is ''entitled'' to a girlfriend), and be allowed to do as he pleases, while [[Barb|others]] shield him from the [[Chris and the law|negative repercussions]].

Chris's white knights also habitually feed Chris's belief that his trolls are subhuman bullies who want to see him destroyed in every conceivable way. While this is [[A-Logging|true]] of [[Weening|some]], for the most part, Chris's trolls are just as interested in seeing Chris improve himself as white knights are, if not moreso, even if many are beginning to doubt such a thing is possible. Indeed, many of the [[Sweethearts|female troll personas who "date" or "befriend"]] Chris have tried to help him see the error of his ways and reform, and continue to do so. It is partially due to the influence of Chris's white knights, who foolishly (and often futilely) try to root out these trolls, that these attempts to help Chris never result in lasting, positive change on his part.

TL;DR, most of Chris's white knights are [[Anna McLerran|attention whores]], [[William Elliott Waterman|sycophants]] or both. To these people, [[Rocky Shoemaker|going on a witch-hunt for trolls]] is preferable to actually trying to help Chris, something which, ironically, even Chris's trolls continue to try to do.

==Examples==
:''Read: [[White knight emails]]''

===White Knights on YouTube===

Among the most notable of Chris's white knights was a [[YouTube]] counter-troll who claimed to be a 21 year-old Russian model named Svenka. Via her YouTube account, [http://www.youtube.com/user/hottiee96 hottiee96], she released an inordinate number of screencaps from troll conversations on [[Sonichu IRC]], including private conversations between Chris and [[PandaHalo]]. She also released an image of the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] who would later steal Chris's first date, [[Emily]]. Were Chris less thick-skulled and even slightly willing to accept irrefutable evidence, Svenka may have made somewhat of a negative impact on the organized trolling effort against Chris, but ultimately she was ineffectual. Svenka also had a unhealthy obsession with the [[CWCville Library]]'s original curator, Arjen Van Dierten.
On 6 [[May 2009]], YouTube user xThexPinchx/NorthxStar7/[http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePinchisDaBomb ThePinchisDaBomb] tried to blackmail major trolls, claiming to have information on them. He was easily called on his bluff by someone who had not trolled Chris at all.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/user/softerthanhardware YouTube]</ref> The Pinch has also threatened [[BlueSpike]] saying he has information from his friends but the thing is '''BLUESPIKE HAS NO FRIENDS'''.

===White Knights on Facebook===

In recent times (since 2012), Chris has taken to using [[Facebook]] as his main means of expressing himself. Inevitably, this has not only attracted the attention of trolls, but, in 2013, a slew of White Knights as well, in particular, a [[William Elliott Waterman]], who taunted the trolls to come after him instead of Chris ''('''Spoiler:''' Nobody did, because nobody actually cared what he had to say.)'' [[Anna]] and [[Kim]] are two of the most notable ones on his friends list, both of whom try to offer constructive advice whenever Chris nosedives into a rant ''(when they're not busy kissing his ass, especially in the case of Anna.)''

However, as we've come to expect of Chris, anybody who tells him something he doesn't want to hear are people that needed to be brushed off until they stop saying those mean, awful things to him. A good case in point is his [[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Chris_Expresses_His_Outrage_for_Walmart|anger-laced tirade in September 2013, when he got thrown out of Wal-Mart and started calling names]]. The white knights typically chimed in with their support...''until'' he revealed that he [[Chris and the law|vandalized]] an X-Box ONE display in the store. Several of them then told Chris that this was not right of him to do, and that the manager had every right to throw him out. His response to that?

{{quote|They do not.
And if they do, they are most in the wrong, [[Chris and reality|because they are most abusive and overzealous of their "authoritative power" that never has existed ever]].|- Chris's response to Chris Rhodes}}

===White Knights in Real Life===

Aside from the most [[Anna McLerran|obvious example]], an old classmate of Chris from [[Manchester High School]] came online and attempted to defend Chris. Once [[SheCameForCWC.jpg|certain]] [[Death Threats|details]] became known, however, said classmate quickly backpedalled on this once he realised that the majority of [[CWCki|what happened]] was Chris' own fault.

===TV Tropes===
The [[TV Tropes]] [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/Sonichu article on ''Sonichu''] used to have a white knight message as the first text of the article, with a link back to this very page. The message is reproduced below:

{{quote|Hey Chris! If you're reading this: you seriously need to get help from licensed professionals, before the stuff you do [[28 October 2011|gets you thrown in prison]] or forcibly committed. And we're sorry, but you have no real fans - the people you think are your fans are really either trolls or laughing at you behind your back. Every. Last. One. Please listen to us - for once.|- Concerned tropers}}

Unfortunately, the editor in question and fails to realize that [[Chris and his Ego|their message, while well intentioned, will do absolutely nothing]] and Chris will simply ignore it even if he does [[Mailbag 52|fully read and input it for better development. Thank you for your time.]] The message was later removed due to a shift in policy regarding the article.

==Conclusion==
As good as your intentions may be, there is no conceivable way any old e-friend can reach Chris at this point and change him for the better, certainly not by continuing to ass-pat and pamper him, which is precisely what fucked him up so badly in the first place (as this wiki evidences copiously). Your efforts will unfortunately fail, and he will just brush you aside, seeing no difference between you and the trolls, for daring to tell him anything he does not want to hear. With each new incident he causes, it is increasingly obvious that little short of [[Chris and psychology|professional intervention]], the [[Chris and religion|intercession of]] [[GodJesus]], or a [[Destruction Of Chris's House|horrifyingly close brush with death]] will change him. Though the trolls have certainly tried to be a positive influence on Chris, even they are now largely admitting that Chris is well beyond our aid. Bearing in mind, the trolls have spent nearly a decade trying to pierce Chris's many insulating layers of self-deceit and sheer stubbornness. With Chris's paranoia, detachment from reality, outlandish behavior and bellicosity all becoming steadily more severe, the best we can hope for is that Chris causes some sort of trouble that leads to him receiving the help he needs.

==See also==
*[[A-Logging|Alogging]]
*[[Weening]]
*[[White knight E-mails]]

==References==
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==External links==
* [http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/White_knight White Knighting] article at [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]].

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[[Category:Trolling]]

2014

2015-01-22T19:13:54Z

Kaltenbrunner:

{{Articleofthenow}}
{{quote|It's been a fair year. Thanks for being a part of it.|Chris, only 4 days before [[26 December 2014|it]] happens.}}
{{quote|Starts the year by burning his own house down, ends the year by going to jail for assault. Bravo, Chris.|A forum poster summing up this year.}}
[[File:Chris-chan 010714.JPG|thumb|Chris in [[July 2014]].]]

'''2014''' was the sixth year of organized trolling since [[Chris]]'s discovery. Like [[2011|the]] [[2012|three]] [[2013|years]] before it, it appeared as if it would have started off with nothing of note, save for the occasional rambling on his [[Facebook]] account...until it was revealed on 11 January that the Chandler household caught fire. Similar to incidents involving his [[28 October 2011|past arrest]] and the passing of [[Bob Chandler]], this was a major dilemma facing his family, and some speculated that these big changes in his life would bring about big changes in Chris himself. Chris did undergo some changes, but they were mostly either irrelevant or just further steps towards complete insanity, culminating in his arrest for assault a mere five days before the end of the year.

Following the fire, Chris began to sell some of his stuff for money, such as his [[Original Sonichu and Rosechu Drawing‎]]. This is notable as, for a change, Chris is actually earning some of his money instead of purely relying on his [[monthly tugboat]], something which was not seen since his days at [[Wendy's]].
Though many problems have more or less sorted themselves out in the past year, this year did continue the fallout from 2013. In August, Chris augmented his tomgirlish ways and came out as a "Lesbian-Identified Male", and began attending LGBT events around Charlottesville (likely against the wishes of other attendees). He also revealed he found himself [[2014 Anonymous Sweetheart|a new]] [[Catherine|girlfriend]], which after a series of obstacles was later confirmed to be a troll.

Around the release of the new [[Sonic]] game, ''Sonic Boom'', Chris became consumed by a vehement desire to denounce the game, encouraging others to boycott it and even defacing in-store copies of the game. Chris's cited reason for this behavior is, in true CWC fashion, because of an extremely minor design element present only on this non-canon part of the franchise: Sonic's arms are blue, instead of tan.

On the bright side, however, at the end of the year, Chris announced that 14 Branchland Court was finally repaired, and would be moving back in [[2015]]. Unfortunately, Chris saw fit to fuck that up (as well as any sympathy the trolls were starting to have for him) - he was recorded assaulting an innocent GameStop employee with pepper spray, an action that landed him in jail, awaiting trial on the 29th, literally 2 days before the end of the year. Though he did manage to post bail and at least enjoy some degree of freedom for the new year, the damage was already done, and he will be feeling the consequences when he goes to answer for his crimes in [[February 2015]].

==January==
[[File:IMG 0532 zps78876bfb.jpg|thumb|240px|[[14 Branchland Court]], 1-2 days after its [[Destruction Of Chris's House|destruction]].]]
{{main|January 2014}}
This month began with little note, until [[Destruction Of Chris's House‎|Chris's house caught fire]]. The rest of the month was mostly spent on recovering.

==February==
{{main|February 2014}}
Chris turns 32. Two videos are leaked: [[Hello, my sweety baby]] and [[Message for John Kyle]].

==March==
{{main|March 2014}}
Some [[Misc E-mails|e-mails]] were leaked on the [[CWCki Forums]], one of them provides interesting info about Chris's days at [[Manchester High School]], involving him getting bullied on a daily basis, although Chris didn't seem to qualify most of it as bullying. Chris was also rumored to be shoplifting at Best Buy, which Chris fervently denied on Facebook.

==April==
{{main|April 2014}}
[[File:April 2014 Target sighting.jpg|thumb|April sighting in Target.]]
Pictures of Chris's house and info about the [[Rental House]] are leaked. Chris is spotted at a local [[Target]] by a Reddit user.

==May==
{{main|May 2014}}
Chris lists some old airplane models and a violin on [[eBay]] (at vastly overestimated prices). He begs for [[Lego]] on Facebook, and confirms that [[Simonla_Rosechu#Resurrection|Simonla has been resurrected]].

==June==
[[File:OriginalSonichuAndRosechuDrawingChris1.JPG|left|thumb|Chris in June 2014.]]
{{main|June 2014}}
Chris tried to sell a painting on [[eBay]], but was suspended. He then tried again, and was suspended again. Meanwhile, a troll snuck into [[14 Branchland Court]] and recovered [[Manchester High Leaks|some documents]] which feature samples of his academic work, and show that he received [[Honor roll|very poor marks]] in many areas.

==July==
[[File:Okcupid 8 jul 2014 6.jpg|thumb|180px|Chris in July.]]
{{main|July 2014}}
Chris sold [[autographed photos]] of himself on eBay. Also, his latest [[OkCupid]] profile was found by a [[CWCki Forums|forum]] user.

11 July was last day of [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]]'s two-year-long probation, her sentence from the trial for the events of [[28 October 2011]].

==August==
[[File:Chris 15 Aug 2014 changed profile pic.jpg|thumb|left|180px|"Lesbian Identified Man and a Cross-Dressing Tranny" in August.]]
{{main|August 2014}}
Chris came out on Facebook as a "Lesbian Identified Male" and self-described "Intersex" "Cross-Dressing Tranny". He also expressed solidarity with the movement for LGBT equality, although he was very unhappy about having to include [[Homos|gay males]]. He also revealed he had a new girlfriend.

==September==
[[File:Chris chan sep14.jpg|thumb|180px|Chris in September.]]
{{main|September 2014}}

Chris sold tons of stuff on eBay, and obtained materials to make more [[medallion]]s and mass-produces them.

==October==
{{main|October 2014}}
[[File:Chrischan_oct14.jpg|thumb|left|Chris in October.]]
This month is notable in that it marked a significant resurgence in video-making, as well as more possibilities about his [[2014 Anonymous Sweetheart|anonymous galpal]], his growing (professed) support for LGBT activism, and his ongoing hatred for eBay (especially after the [[To Mr. Smith|Mr. Smith fiasco]]) and ''Sonic Boom''.

==November==
{{main|November 2014}}
Chris spent this month mostly raging over the ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog|Sonic]] Boom'' game, before he embarrassed himself silly while [[Brushfire Video|raging over a small brushfire]] occurring near his house, and accidentally doxxed himself yet again. This time, however, the trolls did not take advantage of this doxxing. His Facebook friends then helped him make a new version of [[CWC's Sonichu Site!]], which lasts for just 10 days prior to being shut down due to 404 errors, DDoS attacks from [[ween]]s, and complaints over its name--"[[Aspergers|Sperg]]web". Then, it ended on a particularly depressing note for him, as he was quickly booted off his [[Keep Sonic Original]] group for making graphic [[death threats]] to Sega, and it was revealed that his [[Catherine|new girlfriend]] was in fact a troll.

==December==
{{main|December 2014}}
[[File:ChrisMugshot.jpg|thumb|right|Chris in December.]]
Chris started the month off on a low note--primarily consisting of his irrational [[Sonic Boom Protests|protesting]] on [[Facebook]]--until on [[26 December 2014|26 December]], when Chris was arrested for [[List of places that have banned Chris|trespassing]] and [[Chris and the law|assaulting an employee]] at a local [[GameStop]]. After being held in [[Jerkops|Albemarle Regional Jail]] for three days, Chris was released on bail to await his trial on 5 February 2015.

== Sources ==
<references/>

{{Timeline}}
[[Category:Chronology]]

Talk:Rental House

2015-01-22T11:53:23Z

Kaltenbrunner:

==Things To Do==
* Info about the house - it's on the forums
* Probably a redirect to [[Destruction Of Chris's House]] and add a section of the rental house there?

[[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 10:18, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Just added a little more info. I don't think we'll ever get enough info for it to warrant it's on page, so I think we should merge with [[Destruction Of Chris's House|this]] like Alan said. We should keep in mind that this may be a temporary home, so perhaps it will have only a minor role in Chris's life. --[[User:SonofStarman|SonofStarman]] ([[User talk:SonofStarman|talk]]) 03:51, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

There is a lot more available information about the Rental House. The way it was discovered was interesting. http://www.cwckiforums.com/threads/28-3-2014-manchester-high-lego-competition-submission.3356/page-9#post-198196

Due to a flaw on Lego's website the original exif data form the lego pictures contained GPS information.—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Lolsy|Lolsy]] ([[User talk:Lolsy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lolsy|contribs]]) 17:03, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Nice find! I'm on it. Thanks, [[User:Lolsy|Lolsy]]! By the way, could you sign your posts next time? The talk page gets somewhat confusing if we don't. --[[User:SonofStarman|SonofStarman]] ([[User talk:SonofStarman|talk]]) 02:28, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Someone said this house is just a few minutes away from 14 Branchland Court by car. Can anyone confirm that? --[[User:SonofStarman|SonofStarman]] ([[User talk:SonofStarman|talk]]) 03:57, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

picture looks like a murderer took it, y'all are fuckin creeps—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Kind|Kind]] ([[User talk:Kind|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kind|contribs]]) 05:28, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

--It's now June and there's a slow trickle of new information about this house. There are now interior photos. I predict that future events will warrant keeping this as a separate page. --asperhes, 6/24/14

I agree with [[User:Asperhes|Asperhes]]. We now have a couple good photos of the exterior, thanks to [[User:skyraider91]], and Chris is bound to continue posting interior photos as well. The way things seem currently (almost 6 months and no restoration activity at 14BLC) makes me think they're planning to be at the rental for a bit longer than we initially expected. Worst case scenario, they move out tomorrow and we merge it into the fire page, but for now I'd leave it as is. --[[User:CWCTime|CWCTime]] ([[User talk:CWCTime|talk]]) 01:29, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

: Removed the merge template as I found the article quite informative. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 14:58, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

==ADDRESS==
Yesterday, Chris made a video about a brushfire occurring next to his house, and accidentally doxxed himself and revealed his new address. --[[User:FromtheWordsofBR|FromtheWordsofBR]] ([[User talk:FromtheWordsofBR|talk]]) 19:10, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

==New page==
I can't seem to get the [[Male Idiot tries to put out fire, and Sits There. Someone, please call 911 for Flintstone Drive!]] page to create. Feel free to put in this[http://pastebin.com/MJdRZuUB] template if you can get it to create. --[[User:FromtheWordsofBR|FromtheWordsofBR]] ([[User talk:FromtheWordsofBR|talk]]) 14:22, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

==Internet==
It says that Chris has access to a computer and the internet, but, from what I've seen from his fb posts, he seems to only post from his iPhone - and there has been discussion that he can only get WiFi at certain locations. This would suggest, unless I've missed something, that he doesn't have a computer, or internet access at this house, likely meaning that he lost his computer during the fire. I'm going to go through the fb posts again to check if I've missed something, but I just wondered if anyone knew for definite that he has a computer and/or internet access at his new place. [[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 11:53, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Nintendo

2015-01-22T10:25:47Z

Kaltenbrunner:

[[File:ChrisGameShop.jpg|thumb|Chris at the ''Nintendo'' shop.]]

'''''Nintendo Co., Ltd.''''' (Japanese: 任天堂株式会社 ''Nintendō Kabushiki gaisha'') is a multinational company from [[Wikipedia:Kyoto|Kyoto]], Japan, which was founded in 1889 and started off with producing [[Card games|playing cards]]. During the latter half of the 20th century it started getting more and more involved in the [[video games|video game]] industry. In [[Pre-1980#1970s|1977]], five years before the birth of [[Christian Weston Chandler]], Nintendo brought out its first gaming console.<ref>[http://www.nindb.net/system/color-tv-game.html Color TV Game | NinDB]</ref> It is now one of three chief competitors on this market, along with [[HEXBox|Microsoft]] and [[Sony]].

==Nintendo and Chris==
[[File:Customwiimote.jpg|thumb|left|Chris, with his Wii.]]

Chris currently owns several Nintendo consoles, as well as [[List of Chris's games|a shitload of games for them]]. For a long time (before the [[PS3]] came along), ''[[Animal Crossing]]'' was the biggest game in his life and he made the hour-long [[Animal Crossing Documentary|''Animal Crossing'' Documentary]] in which he would tell Nintendo about his many personal problems and how much he hated the [[Sony]] [[PlayStation]]; it still remains his longest video to date.

Along with [[Sonic the Hedgehog]], ''[[Pokémon]]'' was his "[[plagiarism|inspiration]]" for creating [[Sonichu]] and the other [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]]; this was actually positively covered by ''[[Nintendo Power Magazine]]''.

During the early epic [[Miyamoto Saga]] in [[2008]]-[[2009]], Chris was [[troll]]ed by [[Clyde Cash]] impersonating various Nintendo officials, including [[Shigeru Miyamoto]], [[Takashi Tezuka]], [[Reggie Fils-Aimé]] and the Nintendo lawyer [[Jay Z]].

In [[2010]], Nintendo's [[Flipnote Hatena]] service became a major part in Chris's ongoing [[Love Quest]]. In 2011, Chris felt betrayed by his favorite company for [[3DS Flipnote| not porting the Flipnote software quick enough]].

[[File:MiiversePost2.png|thumb|A post from Chris's Miiverse account]]

In [[Exposed - Jeremy Slonwhite of Vancouver, BC Canada|several]] [[Calling Out "Julaaaay" - David|videos]] released in 2011, a Giant Mii AR Card [http://club.nintendo.com/rewards-details/a/21002.do] is visible on Chris's wall. This particular item is only available to Club Nintendo members, for the price of 300 coins.

On [[December 2013]], a user on [[4chan|/v/]] (a video game image board on 4chan) discovered Chris's Miiverse account and posted pictures of some of his posts. This means Chris has spent [[taxpayer money]] on a Wii U.

On 10 [[January 2015]], Chris posted on his [[FIX SONIC'S ARMS IMMEDIATELY, SEGA!!!]] group that he will [[List of places that have banned Chris|permaban]] anybody who talks about Mario on the group, especially after the [[weening]] that occurred on the page, because "The Sonic Team definitely kicks the Plumbers' butts."

==In the comic==
[[File:NDS.PNG|thumb|left|300px|Seems an awfully convenient plot device - it's almost as if [[Chris and writing|Chris isn't a very talented writer]].]]
In [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu'' #5]], Chris uses a DS to connect to Wi-Fi, to search [[CWCville]] for villains.

==Wiimote of fail==
The Wii Remote of Fail is the result of [[Chris]] taking it upon himself to paint custom [[Sonichu]] colors on his Wii Remote and Nunchuk during an [[autism|autistic]] epiphany. He thought that [[Shigeru Miyamoto|"Mr. Mayamoto-san"]] of Nintendo would like to see these, so he then showed them off to the world in his [[YouTube]] video [[CWC to Mr. Miyamoto]].

It made a cameo appearance as a go-kart in [[ModNation Racers]]. First as a pre-made [[Chris and death|casket]] car that Chris simply called a Wiimote, he would then recolor it with his own personal touch just [[Pokéwalker of Fail|like]] [[Gitar of Fail|so]] [[PSP of Fail|many]] [[Media:CWCGameCube1.jpg|other]] [[Media:205-SonichuGBASP2.jpg|things]].

{{collapsible
|Gallery of Chris's own ''Nintendo'' merchandise
|<center><gallery>
File:customwiimote.jpg|True talent.
File:Modnation Wiimote.jpg|Because painting things [[Chris-chan Sonichu|blue]] and [[Sonichu (character)|yellow]] makes everything TRUE and ORIGINAL.
File:003-NPSon.jpg|[[SEGA]] Nintendo!
</gallery></center>}}

==See also==
*[[NO D*** WAY, IMPOSTOR!!!|Appeal to Nintendo in Redmond]]
*[[Club Nintendo]]
*[[Gregg Mays E-mails|Gregg Mays e-mails]]
*[[Homemade Nintendo Power magazine|Homemade ''Nintendo Power'' magazine]]
*[[Chris E-mails 2004-2006|Nintendo e-mails]]
*[[An Official Sonichu Update|Nintendo of America]]
*[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|Wii Incident]]
*[[Wii Remote of Fail]]

==Sources==
<references/>

==External links==
*[[wikipedia:Nintendo|Nintendo]] at [[Wikipedia]]

[[Category:Video Games]]

Nintendo

2015-01-22T10:25:26Z

Kaltenbrunner: /* Nintendo and Chris */

[[File:ChrisGameShop.jpg|thumb|Chris at the ''Nintendo'' shop.]]

'''''Nintendo Co., Ltd.''''' (Japanese: 任天堂株式会社 ''Nintendō Kabushiki gaisha'') is a multinational company from [[Wikipedia:Kyoto|Kyoto]], Japan, which was founded in 1889 and started off with producing [[Card games|playing cards]]. During the latter half of the 20th century it started getting more and more involved in the [[video games|video game]] industry. In [[Pre-1980#1970s|1977]], five years before the birth of [[Christian Weston Chandler]], Nintendo brought out its first gaming console.<ref>[http://www.nindb.net/system/color-tv-game.html Color TV Game | NinDB]</ref> It is now one of three chief competitors on this market, along with [[HEXBox|Microsoft]] and [[Sony]].

==Nintendo and Chris==
[[File:Customwiimote.jpg|thumb|left|Chris, with his Wii.]]

Chris currently owns several Nintendo consoles, as well as [[List of Chris's games|a shitload of games for them]]. For a long time(before the [[PS3]] came along), ''[[Animal Crossing]]'' was the biggest game in his life and he made the hour-long [[Animal Crossing Documentary|''Animal Crossing'' Documentary]] in which he would tell Nintendo about his many personal problems and how much he hated the [[Sony]] [[PlayStation]]; it still remains his longest video to date.

Along with [[Sonic the Hedgehog]], ''[[Pokémon]]'' was his "[[plagiarism|inspiration]]" for creating [[Sonichu]] and the other [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]]; this was actually positively covered by ''[[Nintendo Power Magazine]]''.

During the early epic [[Miyamoto Saga]] in [[2008]]-[[2009]], Chris was [[troll]]ed by [[Clyde Cash]] impersonating various Nintendo officials, including [[Shigeru Miyamoto]], [[Takashi Tezuka]], [[Reggie Fils-Aimé]] and the Nintendo lawyer [[Jay Z]].

In [[2010]], Nintendo's [[Flipnote Hatena]] service became a major part in Chris's ongoing [[Love Quest]]. In 2011, Chris felt betrayed by his favorite company for [[3DS Flipnote| not porting the Flipnote software quick enough]].

[[File:MiiversePost2.png|thumb|A post from Chris's Miiverse account]]

In [[Exposed - Jeremy Slonwhite of Vancouver, BC Canada|several]] [[Calling Out "Julaaaay" - David|videos]] released in 2011, a Giant Mii AR Card [http://club.nintendo.com/rewards-details/a/21002.do] is visible on Chris's wall. This particular item is only available to Club Nintendo members, for the price of 300 coins.

On [[December 2013]], a user on [[4chan|/v/]] (a video game image board on 4chan) discovered Chris's Miiverse account and posted pictures of some of his posts. This means Chris has spent [[taxpayer money]] on a Wii U.

On 10 [[January 2015]], Chris posted on his [[FIX SONIC'S ARMS IMMEDIATELY, SEGA!!!]] group that he will [[List of places that have banned Chris|permaban]] anybody who talks about Mario on the group, especially after the [[weening]] that occurred on the page, because "The Sonic Team definitely kicks the Plumbers' butts."

==In the comic==
[[File:NDS.PNG|thumb|left|300px|Seems an awfully convenient plot device - it's almost as if [[Chris and writing|Chris isn't a very talented writer]].]]
In [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu'' #5]], Chris uses a DS to connect to Wi-Fi, to search [[CWCville]] for villains.

==Wiimote of fail==
The Wii Remote of Fail is the result of [[Chris]] taking it upon himself to paint custom [[Sonichu]] colors on his Wii Remote and Nunchuk during an [[autism|autistic]] epiphany. He thought that [[Shigeru Miyamoto|"Mr. Mayamoto-san"]] of Nintendo would like to see these, so he then showed them off to the world in his [[YouTube]] video [[CWC to Mr. Miyamoto]].

It made a cameo appearance as a go-kart in [[ModNation Racers]]. First as a pre-made [[Chris and death|casket]] car that Chris simply called a Wiimote, he would then recolor it with his own personal touch just [[Pokéwalker of Fail|like]] [[Gitar of Fail|so]] [[PSP of Fail|many]] [[Media:CWCGameCube1.jpg|other]] [[Media:205-SonichuGBASP2.jpg|things]].

{{collapsible
|Gallery of Chris's own ''Nintendo'' merchandise
|<center><gallery>
File:customwiimote.jpg|True talent.
File:Modnation Wiimote.jpg|Because painting things [[Chris-chan Sonichu|blue]] and [[Sonichu (character)|yellow]] makes everything TRUE and ORIGINAL.
File:003-NPSon.jpg|[[SEGA]] Nintendo!
</gallery></center>}}

==See also==
*[[NO D*** WAY, IMPOSTOR!!!|Appeal to Nintendo in Redmond]]
*[[Club Nintendo]]
*[[Gregg Mays E-mails|Gregg Mays e-mails]]
*[[Homemade Nintendo Power magazine|Homemade ''Nintendo Power'' magazine]]
*[[Chris E-mails 2004-2006|Nintendo e-mails]]
*[[An Official Sonichu Update|Nintendo of America]]
*[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|Wii Incident]]
*[[Wii Remote of Fail]]

==Sources==
<references/>

==External links==
*[[wikipedia:Nintendo|Nintendo]] at [[Wikipedia]]

[[Category:Video Games]]

User talk:Thiaminz

2015-01-21T19:57:00Z

Kaltenbrunner: /* Speak, mortals! */

== Speak, mortals! ==

Nice Zombie Patti. Also, hi. [[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 19:57, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

User talk:Thiaminz

2015-01-21T19:56:46Z

Kaltenbrunner: /* Speak, mortals! */

== Speak, mortals! ==

Nice Zombie Patti. Also, hi.

Chris and video games

2015-01-21T19:24:26Z

Kaltenbrunner: Link on Barbara fixed.

{{taxpayermoney}}

{{quote|And [[Bob Chandler|Christian's father]] says it only takes a few hours for him to master an electronic game, and then...move onto another! I can't master any of them.|A TV anchorwoman on a younger Chris winning the [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes]].}}

[[Image:LoveThatLifeUpgrade.jpg|thumb|Chris tried having sex with a video game console once, but it [[Chris humps his PS3|didn't work out all that well]].]]

In case you didn't know, [[Chris]] likes '''video games'''. A lot. In fact, Chris almost definitely centers his life around and spends more time on video games than any other activity or pursuit, including his ongoing [[Love Quest|quest]] for [[sweetheart|a woman]] who will emerge from the [[Chris and the Internet|Internet]] and [[Chris and sex|give him her]] [[china]]. He [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 7|says]] he spends between two and four hours a day playing games, and that's just what he'll admit to.

Without diving too deep into the amateur psychiatry pool, it's not hard to see why video games hold so much appeal for Chris. His brain is wired to operate according to [[Autism|absolute values and rigidly-defined processes]]. That's one reason why he has so much trouble dealing with real life — the rules keep changing on him, when he can figure the rules out at all. In the artificial worlds of Chris's favorite games, the challenges he faces are the kind that his inflexible mind is able to conquer. There, the rules never change, and all he has to do is follow them. [[Chris and reality|Reality isn't quite as simple]], which is why he spends [[Chris's room|as little time out there]] as possible.

==The early years==
Chris has been an avid gamer since a very young age. He first played video games on a Commodore 64 home computer. Before he was eight years old, he had a Game Boy and a [[Nintendo]] Entertainment System, and he acquired more consoles and games throughout the 1990s. According to the [[Sonichu Chronicles]], he's been a fan of [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] since the character's [[1991]] debut for the Sega Genesis. His game collection really took off in [[1993]], when he won his famous shopping spree in the Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes and added $1,000 (even though the total spent was $980.82) worth of Sega games and hardware to his hoard.

==Chris's game collection==
[[Image:404-SpiderManSignedGame.jpg|thumb|Well, if ''[[No More Jokes|Spider-Man]]'' says it...]]

{{main|List of Chris's games}}

Although the last completely reliable account of his collection dates back to [[January 2009]], Chris owns, as a conservative estimate, nearly [[Virgin|700 different game titles across 19 different platforms.]] (He sold off roughly 100 games in various trips to GameStop and local pawn shops during the late summer and early fall of 2010, but that still leaves a hell of a lot to go.) He also maintained an account with the mail-order rental service Gamefly until [[August 2010]].

[[Sony]] consoles dominate Chris's collection. Counting the games he's downloaded by way of the [[PlayStation Network]], nearly half of his games belong to the PlayStation family. Nintendo comes next, including more than 100 games for Nintendo's different portable platforms, and Sega brings [[Homos|up the rear]]. While he owns every Sega console short of an 8-bit Master System and Sonic the Hedgehog is one of his favorite individual franchises, games for Sega consoles don't make up more than 10-15% of Chris's collection.

Chris's violent hatred of the [[Xbox]] is well-known, but he likely also owns or at one point owned an original Xbox console; however, it is not known how much he has actually played Xbox games. His [[List of Chris's eBay sales|eBay account]] shows that he tried to sell off a handful of Xbox games in the summer of [[2008]]. The record of his eBay sales also indicates that, in addition to owning at least one of every machine he owns games for, he's gone through at least three or four of Sony's original PlayStation consoles over the years. It's possible that he's had to replace a few of the infamously fragile machines, but this could also be an indication that he has bought the systems and games in bundles.

It's impossible to gauge exactly how much money has been shoveled into the furnace of Chris's game collection. Knowledgeable [[trolls]], however, reckon that his physical collection of games and hardware represents around $20,000. His PSN downloads, meanwhile, can be accurately accounted for--there, the bill is close to $3,500 and surely climbing all the while. One of the more grievous examples of Chris's video-game-related overspending is his apparent ownership of at least two copies of the eighty-dollar ''[[Street Fighter]] IV Collector's Edition'', as evidenced by the two identical exclusive Ryu figurines he later sold on eBay. While it's possible that Chris received the second figure from an outside source or packaging error, his attempt to bribe [[BlueSpike]] [[Julie Reveals Herself: The Prequel|with a copy of the game]] and his habit of wasting money for no particular reason lend credence to the theory.

In January 2015, it was [[CWCki Forums|leaked]] that Chris had spent an absurd amount of money on Nintendo consoles and games ''(racking up '''585''' transactions'' in the last 4.5 years[[http://cwckiforums.com/threads/2015-jan-12-nintendo-employee-details-chriss-recent-video-game-purchases.7050/]](or 150 payments a year. This list includes useless shovelware, virtual console games, and [[Sonic Boom Protests|both versions of a game he doesn't even like.]] Of these, 276 purchases are known to be handheld games, 8 are known to be video game consoles(''buying '''4''' DSs and DSi consoles''), and 75 which are known to be console games. The grand total cost of all Chris's '''listed''' purchases is '''$7460.43''' or '''$1657.87/year'''. Keep in mind 39% of purchases Chris has on his account (such as Skylanders figures, ammibos, and his Wii U Virtual Console purchases) are not yet specified, meaning that their cost is not included in this already insanely high number. Apparently, his main attention and [[Nintendo Power Magazine|fanboyism]] has shifted from PlayStation back to Nintendo, for unknown reasons.

This leak also revealed that Chris plays almost every game demo available on the eShop, Nintendo's online downloadable video game store, even if he has no interest in said game. This leak also confirmed he had bought every single [[Sonic the Hedgehog|Sonic]] game and primary [[Pokémon|Pokémon]] RPG, proving that he is still a major fanboy [[Sonichu (comic)|both franchises]], and also confirmed that he still makes many purchases multiple times over for no apparent reason, such as of Wario's Woods.

==What Chris plays==
Going on what evidence is available--what he talks about on his websites and [[YouTube]], what his PSN profile shows the most effort put into, what he decides to construct elaborate fan-works around--Chris has fairly childish, "casual" tastes in video games. He puts an enthusiast gamer's level of effort and time into gaming, but he does it playing stuff like Sonic, ''[[Pokémon]]'', ''[[Animal Crossing]]'', ''[[Guitar Hero]]'', and other games geared toward a less "hardcore" audience. His favorite racing game, ''Burnout Paradise'', is a straightforward action/arcade-style game. ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]'' earned a hardcore following with its level editor, but otherwise it's just another side-scrolling platform game (and Chris hardly strains the level editor to the limits of its potential). Much of his PSN trophy case is filled out with achievements racked up playing simple downloadable demoscene and indie productions. Even his beloved ''[[Brutal Legend Plus|Brütal Legend]]'' isn't remarkably deep as far as gameplay is concerned; while the game is an M-rated title with swearing, decapitations, heavy metal music and tricky real-time strategy elements, for most part the atmosphere is still jolly and humorous enough, and majority of gameplay consists of exploring the world and having straightforward beat-em up fights. Some have questioned whether or not Chris's interest in ''Brütal Legend'' was because of an affinity for director [[Wikipedia:Tim Schafer|Tim Schafer's]] other quirky, offbeat games such as ''[[Wikipedia:Psychonauts|Psychonauts]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:Grim Fandango|Grim Fandango]]''. While Chris might be drawn to the perceived [[random-access humor]] of such games, more likely, they were too intelligent for him, and not mainstream enough. More likely, his interest in ''Brütal Legend'' was due to Jack Black providing the main character's voice, and possibly [[Chris and music|Chris's failed attempts to appear to be a connoisseur of music]].

The games that Chris owns are not necessarily the games that Chris plays. His PSN downloads strongly suggest that he spends money on his gaming hobby more or less for the sake of spending it. Witness the $65 he spent on downloadable content for ''Disgaea 3'', a game he had only played to 7% completion several months after originally buying all those downloads. It's reasonable to assume that Chris has similar spending habits in real life, a theory bolstered somewhat by his retro game collections. Chris's collections of games for the Sega CD, Sega Saturn, and a couple of other now-dead consoles are dominated by bargain-bin trash, extremely-common or extremely-shitty games that are easily picked up for very low remaindered prices. No knowledgeable gamer would ever pay money for ''Power Factory Featuring C+C Music Factory'', except maybe as a gag gift, but Chris apparently thought it was worth owning. This habit seems to be picked up from [[Barbara]], and continues to this day in the form of eShop shovelware and virtual console downloads.

His collection does a good job of telling us what sort of games Chris doesn't play, though. Outside of the ''Pokémon'' series, for instance, he has almost no evident interest in role-playing games. Most of the non-Pokémon RPGs in his collection, like ''Suikoden'' and ''Final Fantasy VII'', are PlayStation retro releases he impulse-bought through the PSN. Chris buys those up like penny candy — he's even downloaded several digital duplicates of PlayStation games that he already owns physical copies of.

Despite being obsessed with Pokemon, he's not a hardcore Nintendo fan as some might suspect. He never seems to show interest in the latest content from Nintendo, and the hardcore Nintendo games he does own (such as games from the ''Metroid'', ''The Legend of Zelda'' and ''Mario'' franchises) are most likely just collecting dust on his game collection racks.

However, a January 2014 leak by a Nintendo Employee revealed that Chris had, in fact, returned to his [[Nintendo|Nintendo]] roots, buying nearly every single game on the eShop.

He owns almost no sports games. In the Mailbag, he once noted that "Sports titles do not really thrill me," although he didn't explain exactly why.

With a few exceptions, Chris has no apparent interest in video games aimed at his own age group, which is unsurprising. "Hardcore" games aimed at "adults" are games that simply would not interest Chris because of his juvenile mindset. Video games (and anything else, for that matter) with mature themes that aren't two-dimensionally crass and full of [[random-access humor]] would probably confuse and bore Chris and make him feel awkward and uncomfortable, adding to the fact he probably wouldn't be able to get very far in the game. This is supported by the fact that he did try out ''Bioshock'', a first-person shooter with RPG elements, but only for a short time and never touched it again. Most likely the whole game itself flew right over Chris's head and he decided to play some ''Wheel of Fortune'' instead. However, ever since his [[100 2357.MOV|sixth declaration that he has left the internet]] in late [[2010]], some more high-profile games aimed at adults have appeared on his PSN Trophy list (Such as ''Grand Theft Auto IV'' and ''Fallout: New Vegas''). Apparently the Hannah Montana PS3 game is no longer enough to fill his abundance of free time, and he's taken to playing games he wouldn't normally were he doing anything else with his life.

While he sometimes gets tagged with the "[[anime|weeaboo]]" label, Chris doesn't appear to prefer games made in Japan over any other part of the world. In fact, his favorite games of 2008-2009, the period where he's told us the most about what he plays, are pretty evenly divided between Japan (''Sonic'', ''Pokémon''), the United States (''Guitar Hero'', ''Brutal Legend'') and Europe (''Burnout'', ''LittleBigPlanet''). He counts a few Japanese Game Boy and Nintendo DS imports in his larger collection, but they're obviously titles he picked up to try and impress/bribe [[Megan Schroeder]] — almost all of them are spinoffs from popular anime, especially magical-girl series like ''Sailor Moon'' and ''Pretty Cure''.

When Chris and Megan still got along well together, they were serious players of the arcade version of ''[[Soul Calibur]] III''. There's also an arcade in Chris's plans for the [[CWCville Shopping Center]]. However, given Chris's more recent inclination to retreat into the comfortable confines of his bedroom, chances are he's not much of an arcade-goer anymore.

==Chris the console warrior==
Chris thinks the perennial "Console Wars" between rival manufacturers of game machines are extremely serious business, and engages them in all of the bile and fervor of a 10-year-old child soldier in the PlayStation Army. On rare occasions he has almost seemed rational in this respect, saying he "just doesn't like" or "doesn't care much for" the Xbox, but most of the time he doesn't spare strong words when describing the vile and loathsome [[HEXBox]]. By comparison, he has waxed poetic when describing the awesomeness of the [[PS3]], most prominently in his [[PS3 History Level]] for ''LittleBigPlanet''. According to [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Video_games|Lucas]], Chris would even express his fury over the Xbox in public while hanging out at [[The GAMe PLACe]].

It's hard to tell where Chris's religious devotion to the PlayStation comes from, but a religion is what it is. Like his faith in [[Chris and religion|GodJesus]], his support for Sony is blind and unthinking. Though he can come up with a simple justification for his opinions in a pinch — typically he brings up the annual fee for online gaming on Xbox Live — Chris shows no sign of having put any serious thought or study into his choice of consoles. His descriptions of the PS3's advantages in places like his [[Chris Chan Update 13 October 2008|Columbus Day 2008 video]] tend to sound like boilerplate marketing copy (as filtered through the mind of a [[Chris's room|cave-dwelling]] autistic, anyway).

Interestingly, Chris was not always a blindly devoted fan of Sony. In the [[Animal Crossing Documentary]], we see that back in [[2003]], Chris pledged his allegiance to Nintendo and the GameCube, stating that both forerunners to the PS3 stank as much as the original [[Hex Bawx|Xbox]]. His feelings changed when he bought a PS1 at a "rummage sale" for cheap, intending to resell it elsewhere for profit, but instead played it and found it wasn't bad.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 14]]</ref> One would expect this to be a lesson against nonsensical [[Chris and brand loyalty|brand loyalty]], but instead Chris just focused his hatred on Microsoft instead. Likely, prior to this Chris was a Sega fanatic at Nintendo's expense; if true, then it demonstrates how [[List of Chris's sweethearts|fickle]] Chris is regarding devotion.

Today, as of [[January 2015|January 2015]], he is now a hardcore [[Nintendo|Nintendo]] fan at Sony's expense, as revealed by a recent leak by a TRUE AND HONEST [[Nintendo|Nintendo]] employee [http://cwckiforums.com/threads/2015-jan-12-nintendo-employee-details-chriss-recent-video-game-purchases.7050/].

In typical fashion, Chris is ignorant of things he has chosen not to like. The only 360 game he seems to shown interest in, [http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=6182 "Don't Be Nervous Talking to Girls"], seen in [[Sonichu 10]] being modified for the PS3, was suggested to him by the fans. Though the game is just a crappy dating sim, and though there are other 360-exclusive games which would appeal to him, Chris claims that it's the only game worth playing on the 360.

Even slinging mud at the names of the consoles is very serious business to Chris. In [[Lars Call]], Chris says he doesn't like it when people call PS3 the "PS Triple", because that's what [[trolls]] call it. Of course, this comes from a man who [[Chris and hypocrisy|kept ranting about the "Hex Box"]].

==Chris and online gaming==
Perhaps unsurprisingly, given his antisocial nature, Chris isn't much for online multiplayer games in any genre, be they sports sims, shooters, racing games, or whatever else. Though he owns several games for the PS3 and other consoles that would allow him to play online and interact with other people, his PSN profile shows that he's put hardly any time into multiplayer games.

In 2010 and afterward, two exceptions to this rule emerged. He did a good deal of online racing in ''ModNation Racers'' during the summer of 2010, while early in 2011, Chris began to show an interest in an online role-playing game for the first time, ''DC Universe Online''. His fondness for ModNation competition eventually passed, but it remains to be seen whether or not he'll develop a lasting interest in MMO gaming.

Dedicated observers of Chris's gaming habits may notice a bit of a paradox developing here. Chris claims to hate the Xbox 360 because Microsoft requires a $50 annual subscription fee for online multiplayer gaming. Why should this wind him up so badly, when he hardly plays any multiplayer games anyhow? Well... that's Chris for you. [[Mailbag]] correspondents have tried to point out the seeming contradiction here, not to mention the weird contrast between Chris's thriftiness as far as Xbox Live is concerned and the massive amounts of money he's wasted on worthless digital trinkets through the PSN. For all the good it's done, though, they may as well have tried to change his opinion of [[Asperger syndrome]].

===Chris the trophy whore===
While Chris has little evident interest in directly interacting with other humans in online games, he does seem to enjoy building up a massive trophy case to passively show off in his PlayStation Network profile. He's doggedly played through a number of games in order to earn every available achievement, and on occasion he appeals to his [[fanbase]] for help in earning trophies. For instance, he begged readers of his [[Twitter]] feed to download his ''ModNation Racers'' levels so he could pick up one more trophy.

Slacker that he is, Chris prefers to put forth as little effort as possible to earn his trophies. Presented with a trophy in ''LittleBigPlanet 2'' that asked him to contribute a custom level to the game's online community, he fulfilled the requirement by uploading an empty level with no work put into it. (When this level was deleted by the community's administrators, he took the next-easiest route and uploaded his old levels made with the first ''LittleBigPlanet''.) In an [[Jackie E-mails 6|e-mail to Jackie]], he expressed great pleasure when the ''ModNation'' experience system was patched to make certain trophies easier to acquire.

==Chris and PC games==
Games for personal [[computers]] are conspicuously absent from Chris's collection and his evident game-playing habits. The only sign that he's ever even owned any PC games comes from his eBay account, which shows that he tried to auction off a collection of vintage ''Dungeons & Dragons'' role-playing games for the PC in the summer of 2008. He might also own a copy of the first Lego Island game for PC (as seen by his possession of the Infomaniac minifigure - which was only obtainable from early copies of the said game). In the [[Fanmail Reading]] video, after a [[troll|fan]] sent him a copy of ''[[wikipedia:Half-Life 2|Half-Life 2]]'', Chris explained, "I don't play PC games. I used to, but I don't anymore." He didn't say why he gave them up, though. In [[Mumble 1|his first Mumble chat]], he claimed to "remember ''[[wikipedia:Touhou|Touhou]]''", but later backpedaled and said "I never really heard of that."

==Chris the industry insider==
Chris gets most of his information about the gaming industry from comparatively mainstream sources. He's an avowed reader of ''Game Informer'' magazine, as well as Sony's online magazine ''Qore'', and regularly follows the G4 cable network. He apparently still takes the [[Congrats, Jack Black|Spike TV Video Game Awards]] seriously, which puts him about five years behind anybody with even a cursory interest in the games business.

==Chris the game designer==
{{main|Sonichu (game)|Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles}}
At various times, especially during the [[Miyamoto saga]], but going as far back as the late 1990s (when he had a prophetic dream of a Sonic game for the Game Boy), Chris has imagined that he could launch himself into a career as a game designer. It's telling, however, that nearly all of his "ideas" for potential video game projects simply involve swapping Sonichu or other Chris-spawned characters into an existing game concept. ''[[Pokémon: Lightning Version]]'' is a Pokémon RPG with Sonichu in it. ''[[Sonichu Adventure]]'' is ''Sonic Adventure'' with Sonichu in it. ''[[John's Custom Gundam: Sisterly Rescue]]'' is ''Gundam: Journey to Jaburo'' with Megan's quasi-retarded brother in it, and so on.

The closest he's gotten to coming up with something like an original idea is ''[[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles]]'', and we don't actually know what that game is supposed to amount to beyond what Chris drew on the cover, and occasional haphazard mentions. It's entirely possible that Chris doesn't know the answer to that one either.

Chris nevertheless sincerely believes that his characters and game ideas are ready for commercial prime time. He once rejected an e-mail from the Mailbag that brought up the notion of a not-for-profit fan-made Sonichu game, and brushed off similar suggestions in his first [[IRC (16 October 2008)|IRC fan chat]]. In [[Chris dispels videogame rumors|the video about dispelling rumors of an official Sonichu game]], he scoffed at the idea of his game ideas being made with 2D graphics.

===Modding and customization===
One of the great ironies of Chris's existence is that he loves to create and share his creations, even though he possesses almost no genuine innate creativity. He tends to gravitate strongly towards video games that allow him to create his own content and share it online.

Since console games are often not modifiable, while PC game modding tends to demand more technical skill than he possesses, Chris has only been able to show off his creativity in this field so much. That said, the PS3 games ''LittleBigPlanet'' and ''[[ModNation Racers]]'' exerted a powerful grip on him with their customization capabilities. Chris made a ton of levels in ''LittleBigPlanet,'' dropping out of sight for the better part of a month when he first acquired the retail version of the game. Likewise, he has made levels, characters and custom cars for ''ModNation Racers'', and it resulted in a similar disappearance during the summer of 2010. His output hasn't shown too much actual competence, but it's not for lack of time and effort spent.

Even in games that offer only light customization features, Chris makes a point of personalizing his experience as much as possible. He spent considerable time on a ''Guitar Hero'' band, up to drawing [[CWCRockin4Way.jpg|disturbing pictures]] of his virtual bandmates. The amount of time he spent on tweaking his ''Animal Crossing'' villages is simply colossal. According to the [[Regina e-mails]], Chris made a similarly big deal about ''Jet Grind Radio'' and ''F-Zero GX'', even though both games limit their customization options to things like swapping around car parts or personalizing small decals.

Likewise, as the gallery below displays, Chris enjoys customizing his game hardware. He's splattered Sonichu artwork all over his Gamecube, a Nintendo DS, a couple of Game Boy Advances, a PSP, his now-deceased original PS3, and possibly other consoles or handhelds. One of his [[Pokéwalker of Fail|Pokéwalkers]] also appears to have received the Sonichu treatment, being repainted in blue and yellow.

==Chris's perception on video game technology==
Chris obviously has no idea about how video games or video game consoles work. For example, as seen in a panel of Sonichu 10, he seems to think that games are interchangeable and can work on any console ("DO NOT BUY OR DOWNLOAD ILLEGAL COPIES OF L.B.P. ON Wii OR XBox360; IT IS PUNISHABLE BY LAW!"), even though he could easily check and see that he can't play his copy of Little Big Planet in his Wii, although he is either too lazy, or is afraid of having [[14 Branchland Court|his house]] raided by [[jerkop|jerkops]].

Neither is he aware of what the technology is currently capable of. As stated in the survey of [[Chris and reality]], he once suggested that Nintendo should create a Poké Ball peripheral which could display holographs, of which we can only see in science fiction currently.

==Gallery==
<gallery>
Image:121-CWCsGamecube.jpg|GameCube skin
Image:122-CWCsGamecubeP2.jpg
Image:204-SonichuGBA2.jpg|GBA skin
Image:205-SonichuGBASP2.jpg
Image:CWCGameCube1.jpg
Image:CWCGameCube2.jpg
Image:CWCGameCube3.jpg
Image:CWCGameCube4.jpg
Image:CWCGameCube5.jpg
Image:CWCGameCube6.jpg
Image:092-PSPSonichu.jpg|[[PSP]] skins
Image:SonichuPSPCover.jpg
Image:282-ChaoticComboPSPWall.jpg
Image:518-PaRappa-the-Rapper-Um-Jammer-Lammy-PSP-Wallpaper.jpg
Image:Sonichugame.png
</gallery>

==See also==
* [[List of Chris's games]]
* [[List of Chris's PSN game downloads]]
* [[Club Nintendo]]
* [[PS3]]
* [[Fandoms]]

==References==
<references/>

==External links==
* [http://profiles.us.playstation.com/playstation/psn/profiles/Sonichu Chris's PlayStation Network profile]

[[Category:Pages with fan videos]]
[[Category:Video Games]]

Grace Baptist Church

2015-01-21T18:22:14Z

Kaltenbrunner:

{{DeadLinks}}
[[Image:Grace Baptist Church.jpg|thumb|Grace Baptist Church, [[Charlottesville, VA|Charlottesville]]]]

'''Grace Baptist Church''', located in 3764 Pritchett Lanem [[Charlottesville, VA]],<ref>[http://www.cvillegbc.com/]</ref> is a [[wikipedia:Southern Baptist Convention|Southern Baptist]]<ref>[http://www.cvillegbc.com/Who_We_Are/]</ref> Church in which [[Chris]] was a member until being kicked from it.<ref name="Expelled">[[Megan emails, 2008#Chris talks about his feelings, then some shit no one cares about]]</ref> When Chris started to attend Grace Baptist Church is not known to us. The church was founded in July 2000,<ref>[http://cvilletomorrow.typepad.com/charlottesville_tomorrow_/2007/12/grace_baptist.html]</ref> shortly after the Chandler family returned to Ruckersville.<ref>According to [[Chris's resume#Professional Education|Chris's resume]], he graduated from [[Manchester High School]] on 15 June 2000. In his wikipedia profile he mentioned that his family returned to Ruckersville [[Chris's Wikipedia profile#Graduation|days after his graduation]], meaning sometime in June.</ref> It can therefore be said for certain that Chris joined the church no earlier than July 2000, but it is also possible that he joined the church at a later date.

The approximate date of Chris's expulsion from the Church can be determined with a bit more certainty. In an email Chris sent to [[Megan]] on 18 [[April 2008]], he mentions that, due to his expulsion from Grace Baptist Church, he has been attending [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church]] for more than a month.<ref name="Expelled" /> If we take his words to mean at least a month and a couple of days, we can determine that Chris was expelled from Grace Baptist Church no later than the middle of [[March 2008]]. It is possible, though, that Chris was expelled even earlier; in an email from 4 March 2008, Megan wrote to Chris that she is "sorry to hear about the Church thing" and that "Some people just aren't meant to work under His name".<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Megan doesn't want to be on Chris's websites]]</ref> This is probably a reference to Chris's expulsion from the church, suggesting it occurred during the beginning of March or earlier.

In September [[2008]], Chris claimed that "Pastor John Hartless did not like my views I've expressed in [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|my video I did on my 25th Birthday]], and he found the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|ED]] page."<ref name="ED Talk page"><s>[http://encyclopediadramatica.es/Talk:Chris-chan/Archive4#Church_Search The ED Chris-Chan article talk page, Archive 4]</s> (dead link as of Jun 2014)</ref> When publicly asked about his old church a little more than a year later, Chris claimed that the pastor "did a background check" and merely found a few images of girls in bikinis on Chris's [[Facebook]] page.<ref name="CWCiki, Mailbag 14">[[Mailbag 14#Pictures of women in bikinis... right...|Mailbag 14]]</ref>

After his expulsion from Grace Baptist Church, Chris moved to [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church]]. It seems that they were more willing to [[White knight|tolerate Chris's bullshit]], but eventually [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church#Incidents|they reached their breaking point]] as well.

The church in which Chris's imaginary wedding to [[Ivy]] takes place, CWCville Baptist Church,<ref>[[Wedding Comic]], [[:Image:SchuComicSP2P1.jpg|p. 2]]</ref> is most likely named after Grace Baptist Church. This is peculiar, considering that the Wedding Comic was drawn on 2009, after Chris's expulsion from his old church.

== Sources ==
<references />

==See also==
*[[Chris and religion]]

{{Places}}
[[Category:Places]]

Hotel Ricky Ricardo

2015-01-21T18:06:40Z

Kaltenbrunner: Link to wrong Bob on father changed.

[[Image:HotelRickyRicardo.jpg|thumb|right|Artist's impression. ''You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave...'']]
'''Hotel Ricky Ricardo''' (also translated as '''Hotel Richy Ricardo''') is a [[Spanish]] class assignment in which [[Chris]] describes a hotel as he would run it. It was discovered in the site archives released by [[Clyde Cash]] in [[October 2009]]. The whole thing is a bizarre combination of Chris's horrible version of Spanish (requiring liberal insertions of [sic]), combined with the relatively innocent [[Naïve|naïveté]] of a seemingly normal childhood, as demonstrated by choosing to inhabit his fictional hotel with children's video game characters. This sort of thing is common amongst children as old as eight, which should really tell you something about Chris's mental maturity, as he wrote this when he was "barely" eighteen years old.

Chris also includes himself when listing activities for employees and clients (although he doesn't always clarify which is which) as well as some other people he knows. Amongst the other, mundane activities such as Chris playing videogames with [[Sonic the Hedgehog]], or [[Rosechu|Amy Rose]] going shopping is one strangely poignant mention of Chris's [[Barbara|mother]] getting angry and yelling at his [[Bob Chandler|father]].

Of note, Chris places himself in the category of "great artists", alongside Michelangelo and DaVinci. [[Chris and art|You keep telling yourself that, Chris]].

[[Image:Torgo.jpg|thumb|right|"The Manchild would not approve."]]
==Original text==

:[[Ricardo]] W. Chandler.
:12/3/Y2K Español II, 7.
:Hotel Richy Ricardo Rough Draft:

===I. La Guia Michelin:===

:Richy Ricardo, pl Estación, 4692, 634 92 10,
:Telex 83392-

Com 2100, 200 hab, 15.500/21.000 pesetas ($1,550/$2,100).

===II Descripción del Hotel:===

El hotel, Richy Ricardo, es un hotel de gran confort. Tiene un restaurante y está en la Plaza Estación. El número de teléfono es 634 92 10. Tiene un ascensor, una piscina y un garaje. En las habitaciones, hay un televisor, aire acondicionado, y un sistema de los juegos de videos, Sega Dreamcast. Y con el Dreamcast hay muchos juegos de videos y acceso al internet. Puede comprar o alquilar un Jump Pack o un VMU para el Dreamcast en el recepción. Hay un teléfono a las habitaciones. En este hotel hay 200 habitaciones. Una habitación cuesta entre 15.500 y 21.000 pesetas ($1,550 y 2,100 dolares americanos). El desayuno está incluido en el precio de la habitación. Aceptan tres tarjetas de crédito: American Express, Visa y Discovery. También aceptan unos cheques de viajero.

===III En Nuestras Habitaciones Hay...:===

# En las habitaciones hay una cama matrimonial y dos camas sencillas.
# En las habitaciones hay un [[Homos|clóset grande]] y un escritorio.
# En las habitaciones hay una mesita de noche pequeña.
# En las habitaciones hay una cómoda grande y cuatro cajones.
# En las habitaciones hay dos sillas, una mesita de café, un sillón comodo y un sofá.
# En las habitaciones hay unos cuadros do los artistas buenos: DeVinci, Michalanglo y C.W. Chandler.
# En las habitaciones hay una ducha, un W.C., un lavabo y un espejo largo.
# En las habitaciones hay un televisor pesado.
# En las habitaciones hay una sistema de los juegos do videos: Sega Dreamcast con unos juegos de videos; muy moderno.
# En las habitaciones hay un estante formal.

===IV Las Actividades de nuestros Empleados y nuestros Clientes del Hotel:===

# Nuestro cliente, Sonic el Puerco Espino juege a la guitarra para las chicas bonitas cerca de la piscina.
# Nuestro cliente, Amy Rose va de compras en las tiendas de departamento cerca del hotel.
# Nuestro emplejado, Jose hace las comidas en la cocina.
# La Sra. Cox juege al juego de video, Hydro Thunder con su hijo pequeño, Christian Cox.
# El Sr. Cox juege al tenis en el parque que está lejos del hotel.
# Cada noche, Sr. [[Red Skelton]] dice muchos chistes comicos en nuestro restraunte.
# Yo hago mi website de Pokémon, El PokéSite de RWC 2!
# Knuckles sube el muro del hotel.
# Tails cria los chaoes en el jardín del Chao.
# La empleada, Tiffany lava las toallas, las ropas y las cortinas del hotel.
# La empleada, Kellie arregla los muebles en las habitaciones.
# Mi madre discute con mi padre cuándo están enojados.
# Los chaoes nadan en el lago del jardín.
# Christian Cox está enojado si no durmió bien.
# Sonic y yo jugamos al juego de video, Sonic Adventure; Sonic tiene mas puntos que mi.

===V El Presidente del Hotel: Ricardo W. Chandler.===

¡Hola! Me llamo Ricardo. Yo tengo 18 años. Soy alto y delgado. Tengo el pelo pardo, un ojo azul y un ojo verde. Soy honesto; a mi, me gusta decir la verdad. Soy inteligente; yo sé las matemáticas, Español, fotografía y la computadora. Soy divertido; yo juego unos juegos de videos y el juego de las tarjetas de Pokémon. Soy un artista; me gusta hacer mucho arte. Tenga un buen día.

==Translation==

===I. The Michelin Guide:===

Richy Ricardo, Station pl, 4692, 634 92 10,
Telex 83392-

Com 2100 200 rooms, 15.500/21.000 pesetas ($1,550/$2,100).

===II Hotel Description:===

This hotel, [[I Love Lucy|Richy Ricardo]], is a hotel of great comfort. It has a restaurant which is in the [[Station Square|Station Plaza]]. The telephone number is 634 92 10. It has an elevator, a pool and a [[Son-chu|garage]]. In the rooms, there is a television set, air conditioning, and a video game system, Sega Dreamcast. And for the Dreamcast there are many games and Internet access. You can buy or rent a Jump Pack or a VMU for the dreamcast at the lobby. There is a telephone in each room. In this hotel there are 200 rooms. A room costs between [[Chris and money|15.500 and 21.000 pesetas ($1,550 and 2,100 american dollars)]]. Breakfast is included with the room price. They accept three credit cards: American Express, Visa and Discovery. They also accept some traveler checks.

===III In our rooms there are...:===

# In the rooms there is a [[Fuck Quest|double sized bed]] and two single beds.
# In the rooms there is a [[Chris's Room|big closet]] and a desk.
# In the rooms there is a small nightstand.
# In the rooms there is a [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|big commode]] and [it should say "with"] four drawers.
# In the rooms there are two chairs, a coffee table, a comfy loveseat and a couch.
# In the rooms there are paintings made by the best artists: DeVinci [sic], Michalanglo [sic] and [[Chris and his ego|C.W. Chandler.]]
# In the rooms there is a [[Axe|shower]], a toilet, a sink and a long [probably meant to say "large"] mirror.
# In the rooms there is a heavy[?] television set.
# In the rooms there is a video game system: Sega Dreamcast with some video games; very modern.
# In the rooms there is a formal shelf.

===IV Our employees and client's activities:===

# Our client, [[Sonic the Hedgehog|Sonic the Hedge Hog]] [sic] plays [misspelled; should've used "toca" instead] the [[Gitar of Fail|guitar]] for the pretty girls near the pool.
# Our client, [[women's rights|Amy goes shopping]] in the department stores near the hotel.
# Our employee, Jose makes the foods in the kitchen.
# Mrs. [[Duck|Cox]] plays the video game, Hydro Thunder with his small son, Christian Cox.
# Mr. Cox plays [misspelled here as "juegue"] tennis in the park which is far from away from the hotel.
# Each night, Mr. [[Red Skelton]] says lots of funny jokes in our restaurant.
# I make my Pokémon website, RWC's Pokésite 2!
# Knuckles climbs the hotel's wall.
# Tails raises the Chaoes in the Chao garden [translated as Chao's garden by Chris, as if Chao was an actual person].
# The employee, [[Tiffany Gowen|Tiffany]] washes the towels, clothes and the hotel's curtains.
# The employee, [[Kellie Andes|Kellie]] fixes the rooms' furniture.
# My [[Barbara Chandler|mother]] argues with my [[Bob Chandler|father]] when they are [[Chris and Anger|angry]].
# The Chaoes swim in the garden's lake.
# Christian Cox is mad if he didn't sleep well.
# Sonic and I play the video game, Sonic Adventure; Sonic has more points than me.

===V The President of the Hotel: Ricardo W. Chandler.===

Hello! My name is Ricardo. I am 18 years old. I am tall and [[obesity|slim]]. I have brown hair, [[heterochromia|one blue eye and one green eye]]. I am [[honest content|honest]]; I, [[Lie|like to tell the truth]]. I am [[Honor roll|smart]]; I know maths, [[Spanish]], [[camerawork|photography]] and the [[CADD|computer]]. I am fun; I play some video games and the Pokémon card game. [[Chris and art|I am an artist;]] I like to make a lot of [[art]]. Have[misspelled as "tenga", where it should be "ten"] a nice day.

==See also==
*[[Spanish]]
[[Category:Prose]]

Sweetheart

2015-01-20T23:15:11Z

Kaltenbrunner:

[[Image:Boyfriend-free girls.jpg|thumb|A flock of potential sweethearts.]]
{{quote|'''[[Kacey]]:''' Chris, how many times have you been in quote-unquote "love"? '''Chris:''' I do not know, I do not- I have not kept count.|from [[Kacey Call 9]]}}

A '''Sweetheart''' (sometimes '''heartsweet''') is [[Christian]]'s flavor-of-the-month.

==Definition==
Chris's goal is to build a [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up]], lose his dreaded [[Virgin with Rage|virginity]] (side-quest complete), and spawn his God-chosen daughter, [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal Weston Chandler]] (named after "[[Honor roll|the illustrious metal]]" and [[Chris and his Ego|a name similar to his own]]). Unfortunately for him, the plan hasn't progressed beyond a handful of troll-engineered dates, and a trip to a hooker (two in fact). Thus the ''sweetheart'' label finds itself applied generously, indicating a status that lies somewhere between "e-girlfriend" and "stalking victim." Contrast this with Christian's [[Gal Pals]]; that is, all of those girls who are still potential sweethearts by virtue of the fact that they are known to Christian and don't appear to hate him.

==Qualifications==
:''See Also: [[Sonichu's News Dash]] and [[Attraction Sign]]''[[Image:Chris chan is a hoers.jpg|thumb|It's the one on the left.]]

In the early years of his [[Love Quest]], Christian spelled out his qualifications on his Attraction Sign, in a personal ad that ran for several issues in the ''[[News Dash]]'', and on various other items including a cover for his Nintendo DS. Subsequent experiences would show that many of these TRUE and HONEST criteria could be [[Hambeast|bent a little]], as expedient.

*18 - [insert current age] Years Old
*Boyfriend-Free
*Blonde or Brunette
*White
*Pretty
*Average or Slender Body Type
*5' or Taller
*No Smoking or Drinking
*Lives in Charlottesville or Ruckersville Area
*Has Own Car
*Average to High Income
*Happy, Positive, Caring

In other exchanges, Christian established a few more rules:

*No Children from Previous Relationships<ref>[[Facebook messages]]</ref>
*No Autism (High-Functioning or Otherwise)<ref>[[Chris chan (CWCipedia)]]</ref>

==Will Chris ever have a Sweetheart?==

[[File:Chris-chan_010714.JPG|thumb|Helloooooo, ladies.]]

Despite an old Trinidadian saying that goes, "Every bread has its cheese" ''(meaning that there's a special someone waiting for everybody, no matter how badly off they are)'', [[Clyde Cash|many]] [[Matthew Devoria|who]] [[Jackie|have]] [[White Knights|dealt]] with Chris would be quick to rebut the idea.

However, in case anybody reading this article is curious as to why not, there are quite a few reasons:

'''1) Chris refuses to grow up.''' He is a man in his thirties who plays with children's toys and video games, and still lives with his [[Barbara Chandler|mother]]. Adult responsibilities such as gainful employment are almost completely alien concepts to Chris, and any [[Monthly tugboat|money he does receive]] is promptly [[Chris and money|wasted on stupid crap he doesn't need.]] On top of that, he implies a lot that if he does get married, [[PlayingHouse|all he'll do is stay home while his wife goes to work]]. He doesn't even plan on looking after the kids for her, he'd dump this responsibility on his highly disturbed mother. This lack of maturity and inability to stand on his own two feet would be an instant turn-off to any woman.

'''2) Chris has issues that would damage a relationship.''' Autistic antics aside, Chris does a lot of things that upset women. For starters, he seems to have no sense of personal space, and [[Megan Schroeder|several]] [[Emily|women]] [[Kacey|have]] [[Catherine|found]] themselves creeped out by his habit of inappropriately touching them. On his date with Catherine, he made a point of bragging about learning from his mistakes with Megan ... then ''molested'' Catherine by hugging her and burying his face in her breasts, despite being told not to. Needless to say, had this been a real date, Catherine and "cousin Al" would've [[Kick the Autistic|beaten him up]] or [[Michael Snyder|called the]] [[Jerkops|cops]] at this point. He also [[List of Chris's lies|lies a lot]], and when he doesn't lie, he makes poor excuses for his shortcomings, both of which can damage a girl's trust in him. [[Chris and remorse|His lack of genuine sympathy towards people]] has led to a lot of complaints about him apologizing without meaning it. On top of that, he seems to be of the idea that women in a relationship with him [[Women's_rights#In_real_life|will tolerate waiting on him hand and foot while he plays video games all day, and bear his children.]] No self-respecting woman will ever put up with that nonsense.

'''3) Chris is not self-sufficient.''' As mentioned before, Chris doesn't have a job and currently has no plans to strike it out on his own, opting instead to live with his mother. His welfare after room and board deductions is barely over the $200 mark, which he wastes on toys and video games instead of saving for something really important. He also has a habit of landing himself into [[Chris_and_money#Credit_cards|debt]] with his purchases, and isn't even aware of [[Mumble 4|all of the necessary bills one needs to pay to keep a house running.]] He has also [[PlayingHouse|indicated]] that if he becomes a family man, he will be leeching off his wife instead of looking for work on his own. It'll become crystal clear to any woman who learns this about Chris that he is definitely not marriage material, as he has at no point in his life been able to support himself, much less a family.

'''4) [[Chris_and_health#Hygiene|Chris's Hygiene]].''' Chris does not shower regularly, believing that all you need to be hygienic are a few sprays of [[Axe]]. He also lives in a [[14 Branchland Court|filthy house with garbage everywhere]], and routinely [[DIRTY,_CRAPPED_BRIEFS|shits himself]]. [[Emily|One woman]] has described him as smelling like 'rotten watermelons'.

''' 5) Chris is physically unattractive.''' Chris is not inherently ugly, but his lifestyle and fashion choices have rendered his appearance deeply repulsive. Even before he started dressing like a [[Tomgirl]] (already a deterrent in itself for a [[Homos|certain reason]]), Chris always [[Chris and fashion|had very questionable tastes in fashion]], and would often have an unkempt appearance, as shown in the picture above. In fact, when first spotted from a distance by Catherine, she believed she was looking at an ugly old woman. The fact that he [[Chris and health|doesn't take good care of himself]] also hurts his chances of attracting the opposite sex, and has resulted in him becoming [[Obesity|clinically obese]]. And let's not get started on a certain medallion he always wore back in the day, which only made him look laughably worse. Long story short, if Chris dressed somewhat fashionably, bothered grooming himself properly and worked out, his chances with the ladies would improve a bit. In fact, during Chris's stint as a [[Carlos Chantor|male escort]], his appearance was, ignoring his obesity for a moment, rather presentable and he appeared well-groomed.

'''6) Chris acts like a dork.''' Again, although it sounds shallow, the fact remains that Chris' childish mannerisms can repel women. Take a look at [[For My Sweetest_Ivy|this video where he attempts to woo Ivy,]] for example. Chris thinks that when you talk to a woman you like, you babble and coo like you're addressing a toddler. Also, he thinks that women in this day and age would like watching ''[[Gilligan's Island]]'', an ancient show from his elderly parents' days. One of the first things new people also notice about Chris' room is that he's surrounded by toys and video games, which pretty much scream 'manchild', and Chris has been known to post pictures and videos addressed to potential dates in this room.<ref>[[:File:0782-CWCSpread.JPG]]</ref> His recent [[Tomgirl]] antics haven't helped either- he's now a manchild that dresses like a woman, which can cement in potential sweethearts' minds that he's possibly ''gay.'' (Sure enough, this happened when one of his Tomgirl pictures was [[Chris in the media#Failosophy|featured on MTV's Failosophy]], where the ''only'' person who would date him was the gay guy.)

'''7) Chris is ignorant and averse to change.''' A feature of autism is hostility to and even fear of change, and Chris is no exception. Chris often believes that, above all else, his way is right, and [[Clyde Cash|anybody who tries to tell him otherwise is a dirty troll]], especially if it interferes with his immediate [[China|interests]]. This kind of thinking can severely damage a relationship where a well-meaning girl is trying to steer him in the right direction, as many trolls posing as women have tried to do.

'''8) Chris is an intolerant bigot.''' [[Homos|He still hates gay men.]] He has shown insensitivity (if not outright [[Niggos|enmity]]) towards people of different races. Woe be onto you if [[Noviophobia|you're ''male'']], too. Needless to say, the only women who'd approve of this stance would have to be outright racists who don't have any male friends themselves, and then you'd have to consider the fact that they must also put up with financially supporting a couch potato who plans to let her do everything for him and shits himself, which would put the grand total of women who'd be interested in Chris to a big, fat '''ZERO.''' For an example of this and how women would not tolerate such an attitude, consider [[March_2013_Facebook_posts#Gay_Marriage|this homophobic post he made]] (and the replies he got as a result) on Facebook (to truly hammer the point home, Kim, a long-time ''friend'' of Chris's, chastised him for his bigotry.)

'''9) Chris doesn't try.''' Throughout his whole life, Chris has not had even one [[TRUE and HONEST|real]] girlfriend. The reason for this is simple: he won't initiate. Chris is well known to have a fear of talking to women, even [[How to Talk to Girls|resorting to a book to try and get over his anxiety]]. While not as true today, men are supposed to play the role as the "go-getter", and try to woo over "the fair lady". How does the scenario play out in this autistic's mind? Stand around with an [[attraction sign]] with [[Chris and his Ego|ridiculous requirements]]. Back in the day, even if a girl did express interest, Chris would've been too shy to even talk back to her. He's a little more confident today, but it's hardly done wonders for his chances of scoring - instead he'll turn her off with a cheesy, ham-fisted attempt at a pickup line that just makes him look incredibly creepy and out-of-touch. If there was such a girl who could and would overcome these barriers, the odds that she would meet his standards (just in appearance) are about 1 in 100. And if that ''still'' isn't enough, Chris would never stick to his sweetheart. In his entire life, he has barely had any friends, so what makes anyone in the whole world think he is capable of having a girlfriend? If he is, then his habit of holding back on anything that requires effort and no immediate reward (like moving out, getting a job, maintaining a social life, etc.) will inevitably keep Chris from ever catching that one [[I Got A Fish|fish]] out there.

'''10) Chris is incompetent.''' Chris has claimed, numerous times, to be proficient [[CADD|in]] [[Chris and Art|several]] [[Chris and Music|skills]], but in reality is incompetent in pretty much every sphere imaginable. He compares [[Father Call|cleaning his house to fighting in a war]], and even then, [[Tour_of_Chris%27s_House|his idea of "cleaning the house" leaves a lot to be desired]]. One could even argue that it's because of this and his lack of common sense that the afforementioned [[14 Branchland Court|house]] eventually [[Destruction Of Chris's House|burned to the ground]] when he thought it would be a good idea to brew coffee with an extension lead in his bathroom. He has been employed for maybe a few months in his whole life, then was fired, as he proved too egotistical and stubborn [[Wendy's|to keep even a minimum wage job at a fast food place]], and he simply hasn't bothered since. He gets himself [[Banned|into]] [[28_October_2011|trouble]] way more times than he should, such as his attempts to return to [[The GAMe PLACe]], where basic common sense should have told him to stay away like he'd been told. So, long story short, ladies, If you were looking for somebody to be the "man of the house", would Chris even remotely fit the bill?

'''11) Chris's past will always return to haunt him.''' Thanks to the combined forces of the internet, [[weens]], and even Chris ''himself'', there are literally volumes [[Death Threats|of]] [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|unsavory]] [[DIRTY,_CRAPPED_BRIEFS|information]] about Chris out in the open for all to see, almost all of which is documented right here. Chris knows this all too well, which is why he strongly discourages anybody from doing even a simple Google Search about him. This was, in fact, one of the key reasons why he didn't even make it to first base with [[The Wallflower]] - a ween mailed her a link to the [[CWCki]]. But even if we were to put aside anything to do with the internet, there are still many, ''many'' embarassing and undesirable things about Chris that will, in one way or the other, surface that would damage, if not outright destroy a budding relationship - to which this very list can attest.

==Conclusion==
Despite [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|having said that]] girls should go after poorer, less attractive guys because "they will likely have a better personality", Chris doesn't seem to think that the same applies for the opposite gender. He still insists his sweetheart must be physically attractive and well-off enough to financially support him, not realizing that he himself leaves a lot to be desired in terms of being boyfriend material.

==References==
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==See also==
*[[Love Quest]]
*[[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up]]
*[[Noviophobia]]
*[[Infinitely-High Boyfriend Factor]]
*[[Boyfriend-Free Girl]]
*[[Gal Pal]]

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