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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: /* Preexisting gender determination issues */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;In case anyone's wondering, the images are called &amp;quot;TG#&amp;quot; because TomGirl. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* '''MY EYES!''' CAN NOT UNSEE! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there ANY backstory to this?!? What I don't understand is that he 1) went into PUBLIC wearing this stuff (there's a picture of him at his mall) and 2) It looks like he shaved his underarms in one or two pictures...WHY?! Dear God why?! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 19:26, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Pretty sure he always shaved his underarms. I don't know why I know that. --[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 19:38, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I guess you don't understand hygiene, 4Macie. That's besides esthetics. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 06:02, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Yes but A. This is Chris, hygiene is a foreign word to him and B. Its aesthetics. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:35, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA &lt;br /&gt;
:The article could use some clarification as to what the hell is going on here. There's gotta be some sort of story behind this. What's the deal? This is some of Chris's weirdest antics yet. Just when you think the lulcow ran dry... [[User:Abyssal|Abyssal]] 19:42, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Note that both ears are pierced, not just the gay ear (see: cucumbers on eyes pic). Also, that's his real hair and the images aren't censored; he's  wearing a g-string. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Are they really pierced or are they those clip on/magnet ones?? Is there anyway we can tell?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:04, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: They're real. Trust me. If they were clip ons, there would be more of an indent. I'm also pretty sure that clip ons are bigger. The ones I had as a kid certainly were, and I was pretty into those things. [[User:PedoforkBait|PedoforkBait]] 20:08, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::: That would make sense...I bet the ring/hoop ones are fake though, there's no hole for them in other pictures (unless he got them later). And why are they so oddly placed?? They aren't on the lobe like they should be...unless they've changed where they put them now (I got mine when I was 7). Or...could he have done them himself??? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: They are real. Also, I'm not aware of any way to have a stud clip-on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 20:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*At this point, he's gotta be fucking with us. He wants to gross us out, so we don't bother him. --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 20:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: You think he pierced his ears to get us to leave him alone? [[User:PeachyKeen|PeachyKeen]] 20:20, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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He's using a real camara to take his picture in some of these, that's unusual. I wonder what the poor guy who had to develop them was thinking. O_o [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 20:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is probably a long shot, however I really think he did this for a girl. Most likely a girl who liked to dress up as a guy and wanted Chris to do the same. Or it's a really, really good troll. Either way, whoever made him do this is really good at what they do, because these pictures are FUCKING DISGUSTING. [[User:Mikau|Mikau]] 20:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: [[:File:TG3.jpg|&amp;quot;...when the government fears the people, there is liberty&amp;quot;]]. I'm sure this new heartsweet has her Guy Fawkes mask ready. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-size:smaller;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 02:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Let me tell you something, and like I said, this really isn't really the place to say it. But nonetheless, whenever I try to rationalize what Chris does, I usually get disappointed because the simple fact of the matter is - Chris is just fucked up.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The saddest thing about all this is that this didn't even suprise me in the slightest, I wasn't even mildly shocked to see Chris in drag, or even with a sock on his flacid manhood. --[[User:Gustofwind|Gustofwind]] 21:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: many are saying it isn't a sock...it's a g-string. You can't see the strings holding it up because of his gut roll over but when he does the picture of his butt, you can see the black thong part in the crack.....if you REALLY want to look that is. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Goddaemnd monkey-assed hell. Well, what do we do with this page? Start describing shit? In fuckin' ''detail''?! It could stand as is, like the CWCki's own personal 'shock page'...--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:00, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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INFO, somebody has it. Where are the pictures from? Did he upload them somewhere? Or is it old stuff made public by trolls? --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's all recent and Clyde got it by hacking Chris' PSN. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 22:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Excellent, this, coupled with the PSN being down, is probably the best chance we'll get at him returning. --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::PSN has been offline for a week all because of these photos, spread the word [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 22:15, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::In the meantime, someone try to find an appropreate picture of King Hippo from the Captain N cartoon; he also crossdresses, and he's also a fat, useless, discolored retard.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:17, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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In some of these, he looks uncannily like a fat version of Buffalo Bill. [[User:Vulture-chan|Vulture-chan]] 22:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I was about to ask if the PSN take down made him go further down the crazy hole o_o [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Chris has been at this a while, and you can tell because growing out hair takes a while. The PSN going down was coincidence. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 00:49, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I also love the claims that he is &amp;quot;straight&amp;quot;. Yeah, Chris is as &amp;quot;straight&amp;quot; as a circle &amp;gt;_&amp;gt; [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:34, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Circle? Try &amp;quot;ampersand.&amp;quot; --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:25, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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here's something everybody should think about: chris is wearing his mom's clothes. i mean surely he didn't pay for any of this shit when there are MOUNTAINS of free clothes blocking up whole rooms of his house. [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 00:36, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Already wore his mum's underwear that one time. Wouldn't be a new thing for him. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 01:19, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I wonder if Bob has caught this yet. [[User:Westbound|Westbound]] 05:08, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Guys, please, remember - this page is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. Srsly, I told you fuckers that that ModNation Racer character wasn't Crystal.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:22, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone with some solid info about this? Do this is a new saga? Who asked him to dress that way? Do we got any metadata linked to the picture so we can have time/date info? This is the best update for months and we got so little info on it. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 06:00, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I can talk to Tito about getting the raw images so we can get some metadata  behind these.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Could he be trying to be Crystal the Imaginary Twin sister? He tends to stick to the stripey clothing and jeans, which is pretty much what she wore [[User:PoppyPink|PoppyPink]] 00:24, 30 April 2011 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*This is pure speculation, but do you think it's Mic, the one girl he talked about in the Autism Tutorial?--[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 07:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The updates are few an far between, but when they come, they are fascinating. I especially like how the Sailor Moon poster is in some of the the pics. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 17:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is going to kill Bob. Chris has evolved into a Snorlax. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 04:01, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, there goes the theory of &amp;quot;Chris actually got his shit together and has begun leading a semi-normal life&amp;quot;. [[User: GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:02, 1 May 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Disturbing revelation ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg This pic] raises several disturbing things. First off, If you look in the background, you see the journey's sign. Why does this matter you ask?&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.simon.com/mall/MallDirectoryPrint.aspx?id=117 Fashion Square Mall Directory]&lt;br /&gt;
Journey's in the section labeled G on the map. Right near exact center of the mall, meaning he walked around like that near small children. It also explains where he might have picked up everything, for the women's Belk is right around the corner. The disturbing part is he walked around the mall a hop skip and a jump from where I work! And before you ask, no I didn't see him drag. Side note, he is wearing his ring again, see [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg this pic]. Also, there is a piercing pagoda in the mall. In summation, he got pierced, did up and bought his tranny clothes all in the mall most likely. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
: Is [http://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg this sign] somewhere in the mall? Is this part of some sort of cross-dressing awareness event, and is Chris just taking part? [[User:Turnabout|Turnabout]] 22:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
**It looks like the chalkboard Chris drew on in [[Chris's Big Night Out II]], which is in Charlottesville. That doesn't look like Chris's handwriting, so I think it's safe to assume he has a new, masculine gal-pal. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 10:25, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*That chalkboard is the free speech wall on the downtown mall. You know where he did the sonichu dash vid? Same location. It's at the end down near the post office and right near a merry go round. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:20, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
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== Info? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there ANY background to this? Like: where did he get the term &amp;quot;TomGirl&amp;quot; and why does he think it means to dress up like a girl? (aka: this is cross-dressing...not being a &amp;quot;TomGirl&amp;quot;) I guess it was said that this was hacked off his PS3 (PSN)..but WHY was it there in the first place?? He obviously took them for someone...he wouldn't have taken pictures of himself in drag if it was solely for his own viewing...would he??? I guess..&lt;br /&gt;
TL;DR:  Is there any information about this??? Someone has to know something! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Well [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomgirl Wikipedia] Explains a tomgirl is a reverse tomboy, a guy who acts girly, a femboi in essence is a tomgirl. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 21:06, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
::Hmmm...well that's a start. Though I think Chris took this one a little too far for it to still be &amp;quot;TomGirl&amp;quot;ish... Now we just need the WHY I guess. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:11, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::For the love of fuck just shut up and wait for the inevitable infodump that will explain everything.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:28, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::*True, though pretty much what's going on has already been explained by [[Tito]] [http://789chan.org/cwc/res/53442.html here]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:19, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Sweet merciful Jesus, he..he finally snapped, or he finally accepted it, just...wow. [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 21:32, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Preexisting gender determination issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There is so fucking much up with this guy I don't even know where to start, but cross-dressing is the tip of the fucking iceberg here. CWC genuinely has no masculine features except his receding hairline, and his fat distribution and build are very effeminate. (Not feminine - he looks androgynous leaning away from male.) The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.&lt;br /&gt;
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The thing here is to compare Chris to relatively masculine fatasses. Moobs that size on masculine men are usually accompanied by a pretty big stomach, and while CWC's breasts are obviously almost 100% the result of fat distribution, a massive amount of his excess fat is in typically female areas, i.e. hips, thighs, ass, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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The other side of the coin is that CWC has a lot of the features of abandoned or half-hearted male feminization - box tits with flat, weird nipples; an extremely protruberant but generally formless ass; the general fat and body pattern of a long post-menopause woman. In short, these people look like the Snorlax (as CWC has begun to) because, like her, the last major influence on their secondary sexual features is still high estrogen levels that are no longer significant enough to have a major effect.&lt;br /&gt;
Other relevant features of male-to-female transition, either medically or anecdotally ubiquitous, are the softening of body hair, the mild regrowth of scalp hair, emotional upheaval, sexual dysfunction, and massive mood swings. The last three of those are also attributable to testosterone therapy in patients with previously low testosterone levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not saying I'm sure there's some kind of congenital or external source of hormone problems for sure, but it seems pretty likely to me that either he was on testosterone for a brief period in response to an indifferent puberty from some sexual condition (possibly explaining his sudden and totally incomplete sexual awakening at 16) or he was, at some point between then and now, medicated with anti-androgens or even some kind of low-level female hormone regimen, either clinically or domestically. (There are reasons that were then and are partially now considered medically reasonable for doing that - chemical castration, for one, for instance when a poorly-managed autistic teenager develops a raging and violently-ideated libido - but God only knows why things happen under that fucking roof.)&lt;br /&gt;
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TL,DR: Chris might have girl parts and either his parents fucked with his endocrine system at a young age or things with his new boyfriend-free heartsweet are going to get weirder before they make perfect sense.&lt;br /&gt;
I've been suspicious of this since his first nudes went up, and this is just icing on the cake. And if you guys think he's a lulcow while he's trying to be a man...&lt;br /&gt;
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:nah he's just a dumb fatty -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 02:41, 1 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I have to agree with Acousticvirgin on this. While your theory is quite interesting...most of this can be explain just by looking at Chris and his family. Chris's family had him at a really old age. His mom was almost in menopause and his father was already a senior citizen. The father at such an old age could be a factor in Autism (it's a scientific theory) and his mother having him so close to menopause could be the reason for any hormonal imbalance (it's a scientific fact that when women are older when a child is born that hormonal imbalances can occur, ESPECIALLY if that older woman doesn't take the prenatal vitamins...). The fat distribution of Chris can be explain by either the hormonal imbalance or by the fact that he doesn't really move all the much, much less work out (or both combined). If you look at pictures of him in his HighSchool years he's a LOT thinner...most likely due to a high metabolism since he didn't work out and wasn't in sports. With his age he's either lost that metabolism or he's out-eating it, either is a possibility. The fact that he doesn't work out at all and doesn't really move around all that much means that there's going to be limited muscles there and much more fat. His arms are skinny because men usually don't get a whole bunch of fat there; his legs are kinda chunky, but men get that too. His butt, gut, and thighs are fat simply because that's where the fat goes. Now, the manboobs. Some men get moobs whether or not they have some gender issue...Chris on the other hand has a set that is way too big to be normal. This could be because of the hormonal imbalance from birth, OR because he doesn't work that muscle out at all. Most men do some form of exercise for that muscle whether or not they go to the gym. They lift things, they carry things, or just daily movement will work out the pectorals for men. The fact that this particular muscle gets NO exercise or movement from Chris could mean that the pectorals are much more fat than muscle. His sexual inexperience until 16 can be explained by parenting and by his autism. His parents never had any reason to discuss his puberty with him so he never really understood sex or masturbation until he saw it in a movie, and now that he does, he still only does it 1 or 2 times a week...quite abnormal for a boy/man from puberty to about 40 years old (age after puberty varies of course). Some autistics are asexual and never have sex throughout their lives because they don't understand sex nor do they really understand/want any kind of romantic relationship. The fact that Chris wants one so badly means nothing; he's shown that he doesn't really understand relationships and treats them like a 8 year old would. ===&amp;gt; TL,DR: Chris's parents had him at too old an age, that along with the fact that he's overweight and doesn't work out at all has made him who he is today... and more likely than not...it'll only get worse. (These pictures show an increased weight since the last time we've seen him; especially in the face and chest.) And Chris wants sex just because he doesn't want the title VIRGIN, he really has no sex drive.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:17, 1 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Now, we have to remember that Chris is very simple. When he had to choose between his console and his galpal, and he chose the galpal, he demanded to have the consol as well, because he did the right thing. Just like in the movies. Chris doesn't necessarily understand love or attraction, he merely knows that relationship is a good thing, and it should be desired. In his simple mind, a relationship with a woman means perfect, neverending happiness that will fix all his problems. [[User:Vergilius|Vergilius]] 13:08, 1 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*I'm inclined to agree with Acousticvirgin here as well. I think a more plausible explanation though, is that due to DA [[autism|AUTISM]], Chris doesn't understand gender as a construct very well and so goes crazy with it. Or Chris could just be stupid. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:55, 2 May 2011 (PDT) &lt;br /&gt;
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:Interesting theory, but I disagree with it. Klinefelter's patients tend to have unnatural looking body proportions (extremely long limbs, wide hips, short torsos), and have normal levels of intelligence (remember, Chris was on the Honor Roll). I don't think his bizarre fat deposits are caused by any meiotic disorder like Klinefelter's, but rather terrible diet fucking with his body, raising his estrogen levels, and causing him to develop gynecomastia. Once that happens, it causes him to have female-like fat deposits. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:01, 1 May 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*My two cents, for what it's worth. The moobs appear to be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynecomastia Gynecomastia] In short, estrogen made him grow boobs. Estrogen would also explain why his voice is in the annoyingly high pitched range. As for [http://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Klinefelter's_syndrome Klienfelter's Syndrome], the man child does in fact track rather well. Compare to this [http://www.andrologyjournal.org/content/vol29/issue6/images/large/andr-29-6-605-f01.jpeg Pic of man with Klienfilter's syndrome]. Thing is,[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditions_comorbid_to_autism_spectrum_disorders Autism is comorbid], so odds are it isn't just autism. In summation, odds are Chris has da autism and some kind of glandular disorder. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:43, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
----Oh, and here I thought that point had already been shot down half a dozen other times and people’d actually read other bad theories before posting theirs.  There's absolutely no sense to this theory, or for that matter anything remotely empiric behind it, but plenty plain to sight that shows it's impossible: Only people who don’t understand how gene expression and hormones work could think it makes sense. I don’t know where to start, there’s so much nonsence in that theory I might as well start picking it out.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; ''fat distribution and build are very effeminate...''&lt;br /&gt;
:What? Really, and here I thought comparing photos with a baseline would be easy, even for e-doctors. There’s hardly anything about that fat distribution that’s female. The fat went almost exclusively to his abdomen when he was just [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Cwcbraorig.JPG overweight], that’s the type of adipose distribution you get with testosterone. What’s more, the manboobs are dead common in obese men, you’re not just going to get the visceral [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:WantWoman.jpg FA5] type gut fat, but also tit fat, so by your standards [http://img.wikinut.com/img/4-hz_myuqu_9-u51/jpeg/0/Serious-obesity.jpeg fatguy here’s a dickgirl]. The fact that excess estrogens and mostly androgens(which worsen that acne) wind up being made by all that extra fat isn’t intersex.  &lt;br /&gt;
''&amp;gt;he looks androgynous leaning away from male.''&lt;br /&gt;
:And just how? A prominent [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:100_2296.JPG gablela/brow]  isn’t gender neutral, neither is his [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG21.jpg square morphing into a pear face shape], he certainly has no problem in growing facial hair as these last photos show, his jawline isn’t slender even if the fat makes it hard to make out, that nose is kind of big &amp;amp; like the other features testosterone promotes their growth. Oh and his hairline is quite [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg high] around the temples and frontal, another manly trait. His face isn’t androgynous or gender neutral at all.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;''The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.'' &lt;br /&gt;
:It’s all wrong. If it actually were a urogenital intersex condition it’d have almost certainly been handled in a hospital by specialists, given how surgery is screened to more qualified MD, the chance of a inept hick doctor is nil. Never mind the fact that his dick doesn’t look like what you normally get from the infant sex assignment, and that his body certainly doesn’t match the phenotype you’d get with 5ARD Kleifeters or PAIS. The whole bit about his hairline ,[http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/a/ad/Personalprofile.jpg acne] and facial structure being too [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/6/67/0793-CWCIs24-2.jpg androgenized] and all.&lt;br /&gt;
Probably the most important thing about it all is that '''Autism is not something that correlates with estrogen'''. [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3040206/  Testosterone has a demonstrated casual role] in altering the expressions of genes to induce it, where as estrogen prevents it. Also Cohen’s research indicates that there is a very strong correlation for biomarkers indicating increased testosterone exposure/sensitivity and autism. So no, the idea of Chris being Estrogen dominant and ASD is nonsence. I could keep going on point by point on everything that’s wrong with this theory, but I think the point’s certainly been made. This theory keeps coming from people who just don't get how it works, so an overkill was in need.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:14, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*The prominent nipples are a dead giveaway to gyncomastia. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:21, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
:Have you ever looked at a fat man? Their nipples are enlarged, it's something that's induced by the adipose building up there, that's pseudogyncomastia. Unless if he's been sneaking his mother's premarin there isn't going to be much in the way of nodules there. It's possible that the adipose leads to more hormones and aromatase makes some of them into estrogen, but that's a common enough thing in the obese. It's an analogue to that why they also have higher DHT levels.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:25, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*cool theory doc but have you considered that he is a fat dummy who is fat and dumb and smells like dumb fat -Dr.[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 20:56, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Congratulations ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Congratulations Chris (Or should I say Christina) You have finally come to terms with your sexuality and gender issues. The road ahead may still be windy but at least now you can be happy its the right track. I've never seen you so happy and content and this all of your doing. no manipulation here. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Seriously guys ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Next person who posts something not related to improving this page gets (temporarily) banned. This is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:53, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Well, don't know if it should be added to the picture captions but on the pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg A] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG4.jpg B] They are taken on the downtown mall. Pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg C] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg D] were taken in the Fashion Square mall, where the piercing pagoda is. And Finally, [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg Picture C] he is wearing his high school ring it but can't really tell. Unsure if linking to the downtown mall and the fashion square mall would be uneeded piping. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:50, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
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Mmkay, well, do we still have Chris's email address? Can we still reach him on online chats or whatever? Is there no way someone can get hold of him and gently interrogate him about HOLY CRAP CHRIS WHAT THE FUCK and add some substance and reasoning to the insanity displayed on this page? I'm sure he won't mind the attention. I'd volunteer, but, uh, Chris fucking scares me. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 12:22, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;If only we'd thought of that sooner. I'll contact all the trolls and let them know.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Chris doesn't answer emails or phonecalls. He's virtually impossible to contact unless you already have a foot in the door. If you did contact Chris, he would be largely unresponsive and then ignore you. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:27, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;In case anyone's wondering, the images are called &amp;quot;TG#&amp;quot; because TomGirl. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* '''MY EYES!''' CAN NOT UNSEE! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there ANY backstory to this?!? What I don't understand is that he 1) went into PUBLIC wearing this stuff (there's a picture of him at his mall) and 2) It looks like he shaved his underarms in one or two pictures...WHY?! Dear God why?! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 19:26, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Pretty sure he always shaved his underarms. I don't know why I know that. --[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 19:38, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I guess you don't understand hygiene, 4Macie. That's besides esthetics. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 06:02, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Yes but A. This is Chris, hygiene is a foreign word to him and B. Its aesthetics. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:35, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA &lt;br /&gt;
:The article could use some clarification as to what the hell is going on here. There's gotta be some sort of story behind this. What's the deal? This is some of Chris's weirdest antics yet. Just when you think the lulcow ran dry... [[User:Abyssal|Abyssal]] 19:42, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Note that both ears are pierced, not just the gay ear (see: cucumbers on eyes pic). Also, that's his real hair and the images aren't censored; he's  wearing a g-string. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Are they really pierced or are they those clip on/magnet ones?? Is there anyway we can tell?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:04, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: They're real. Trust me. If they were clip ons, there would be more of an indent. I'm also pretty sure that clip ons are bigger. The ones I had as a kid certainly were, and I was pretty into those things. [[User:PedoforkBait|PedoforkBait]] 20:08, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::: That would make sense...I bet the ring/hoop ones are fake though, there's no hole for them in other pictures (unless he got them later). And why are they so oddly placed?? They aren't on the lobe like they should be...unless they've changed where they put them now (I got mine when I was 7). Or...could he have done them himself??? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: They are real. Also, I'm not aware of any way to have a stud clip-on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 20:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*At this point, he's gotta be fucking with us. He wants to gross us out, so we don't bother him. --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 20:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: You think he pierced his ears to get us to leave him alone? [[User:PeachyKeen|PeachyKeen]] 20:20, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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He's using a real camara to take his picture in some of these, that's unusual. I wonder what the poor guy who had to develop them was thinking. O_o [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 20:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is probably a long shot, however I really think he did this for a girl. Most likely a girl who liked to dress up as a guy and wanted Chris to do the same. Or it's a really, really good troll. Either way, whoever made him do this is really good at what they do, because these pictures are FUCKING DISGUSTING. [[User:Mikau|Mikau]] 20:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: [[:File:TG3.jpg|&amp;quot;...when the government fears the people, there is liberty&amp;quot;]]. I'm sure this new heartsweet has her Guy Fawkes mask ready. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-size:smaller;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 02:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Let me tell you something, and like I said, this really isn't really the place to say it. But nonetheless, whenever I try to rationalize what Chris does, I usually get disappointed because the simple fact of the matter is - Chris is just fucked up.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The saddest thing about all this is that this didn't even suprise me in the slightest, I wasn't even mildly shocked to see Chris in drag, or even with a sock on his flacid manhood. --[[User:Gustofwind|Gustofwind]] 21:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: many are saying it isn't a sock...it's a g-string. You can't see the strings holding it up because of his gut roll over but when he does the picture of his butt, you can see the black thong part in the crack.....if you REALLY want to look that is. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Goddaemnd monkey-assed hell. Well, what do we do with this page? Start describing shit? In fuckin' ''detail''?! It could stand as is, like the CWCki's own personal 'shock page'...--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:00, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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INFO, somebody has it. Where are the pictures from? Did he upload them somewhere? Or is it old stuff made public by trolls? --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's all recent and Clyde got it by hacking Chris' PSN. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 22:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Excellent, this, coupled with the PSN being down, is probably the best chance we'll get at him returning. --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::PSN has been offline for a week all because of these photos, spread the word [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 22:15, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::In the meantime, someone try to find an appropreate picture of King Hippo from the Captain N cartoon; he also crossdresses, and he's also a fat, useless, discolored retard.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:17, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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In some of these, he looks uncannily like a fat version of Buffalo Bill. [[User:Vulture-chan|Vulture-chan]] 22:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I was about to ask if the PSN take down made him go further down the crazy hole o_o [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Chris has been at this a while, and you can tell because growing out hair takes a while. The PSN going down was coincidence. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 00:49, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I also love the claims that he is &amp;quot;straight&amp;quot;. Yeah, Chris is as &amp;quot;straight&amp;quot; as a circle &amp;gt;_&amp;gt; [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:34, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Circle? Try &amp;quot;ampersand.&amp;quot; --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:25, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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here's something everybody should think about: chris is wearing his mom's clothes. i mean surely he didn't pay for any of this shit when there are MOUNTAINS of free clothes blocking up whole rooms of his house. [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 00:36, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Already wore his mum's underwear that one time. Wouldn't be a new thing for him. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 01:19, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I wonder if Bob has caught this yet. [[User:Westbound|Westbound]] 05:08, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Guys, please, remember - this page is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. Srsly, I told you fuckers that that ModNation Racer character wasn't Crystal.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:22, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone with some solid info about this? Do this is a new saga? Who asked him to dress that way? Do we got any metadata linked to the picture so we can have time/date info? This is the best update for months and we got so little info on it. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 06:00, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I can talk to Tito about getting the raw images so we can get some metadata  behind these.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Could he be trying to be Crystal the Imaginary Twin sister? He tends to stick to the stripey clothing and jeans, which is pretty much what she wore [[User:PoppyPink|PoppyPink]] 00:24, 30 April 2011 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*This is pure speculation, but do you think it's Mic, the one girl he talked about in the Autism Tutorial?--[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 07:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The updates are few an far between, but when they come, they are fascinating. I especially like how the Sailor Moon poster is in some of the the pics. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 17:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is going to kill Bob. Chris has evolved into a Snorlax. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 04:01, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, there goes the theory of &amp;quot;Chris actually got his shit together and has begun leading a semi-normal life&amp;quot;. [[User: GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:02, 1 May 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Disturbing revelation ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg This pic] raises several disturbing things. First off, If you look in the background, you see the journey's sign. Why does this matter you ask?&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.simon.com/mall/MallDirectoryPrint.aspx?id=117 Fashion Square Mall Directory]&lt;br /&gt;
Journey's in the section labeled G on the map. Right near exact center of the mall, meaning he walked around like that near small children. It also explains where he might have picked up everything, for the women's Belk is right around the corner. The disturbing part is he walked around the mall a hop skip and a jump from where I work! And before you ask, no I didn't see him drag. Side note, he is wearing his ring again, see [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg this pic]. Also, there is a piercing pagoda in the mall. In summation, he got pierced, did up and bought his tranny clothes all in the mall most likely. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
: Is [http://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg this sign] somewhere in the mall? Is this part of some sort of cross-dressing awareness event, and is Chris just taking part? [[User:Turnabout|Turnabout]] 22:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
**It looks like the chalkboard Chris drew on in [[Chris's Big Night Out II]], which is in Charlottesville. That doesn't look like Chris's handwriting, so I think it's safe to assume he has a new, masculine gal-pal. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 10:25, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*That chalkboard is the free speech wall on the downtown mall. You know where he did the sonichu dash vid? Same location. It's at the end down near the post office and right near a merry go round. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:20, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
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== Info? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there ANY background to this? Like: where did he get the term &amp;quot;TomGirl&amp;quot; and why does he think it means to dress up like a girl? (aka: this is cross-dressing...not being a &amp;quot;TomGirl&amp;quot;) I guess it was said that this was hacked off his PS3 (PSN)..but WHY was it there in the first place?? He obviously took them for someone...he wouldn't have taken pictures of himself in drag if it was solely for his own viewing...would he??? I guess..&lt;br /&gt;
TL;DR:  Is there any information about this??? Someone has to know something! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Well [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomgirl Wikipedia] Explains a tomgirl is a reverse tomboy, a guy who acts girly, a femboi in essence is a tomgirl. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 21:06, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
::Hmmm...well that's a start. Though I think Chris took this one a little too far for it to still be &amp;quot;TomGirl&amp;quot;ish... Now we just need the WHY I guess. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:11, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::For the love of fuck just shut up and wait for the inevitable infodump that will explain everything.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:28, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::*True, though pretty much what's going on has already been explained by [[Tito]] [http://789chan.org/cwc/res/53442.html here]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:19, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Sweet merciful Jesus, he..he finally snapped, or he finally accepted it, just...wow. [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 21:32, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Preexisting gender determination issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There is so fucking much up with this guy I don't even know where to start, but cross-dressing is the tip of the fucking iceberg here. CWC genuinely has no masculine features except his receding hairline, and his fat distribution and build are very effeminate. (Not feminine - he looks androgynous leaning away from male.) The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.&lt;br /&gt;
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The thing here is to compare Chris to relatively masculine fatasses. Moobs that size on masculine men are usually accompanied by a pretty big stomach, and while CWC's breasts are obviously almost 100% the result of fat distribution, a massive amount of his excess fat is in typically female areas, i.e. hips, thighs, ass, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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The other side of the coin is that CWC has a lot of the features of abandoned or half-hearted male feminization - box tits with flat, weird nipples; an extremely protruberant but generally formless ass; the general fat and body pattern of a long post-menopause woman. In short, these people look like the Snorlax (as CWC has begun to) because, like her, the last major influence on their secondary sexual features is still high estrogen levels that are no longer significant enough to have a major effect.&lt;br /&gt;
Other relevant features of male-to-female transition, either medically or anecdotally ubiquitous, are the softening of body hair, the mild regrowth of scalp hair, emotional upheaval, sexual dysfunction, and massive mood swings. The last three of those are also attributable to testosterone therapy in patients with previously low testosterone levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not saying I'm sure there's some kind of congenital or external source of hormone problems for sure, but it seems pretty likely to me that either he was on testosterone for a brief period in response to an indifferent puberty from some sexual condition (possibly explaining his sudden and totally incomplete sexual awakening at 16) or he was, at some point between then and now, medicated with anti-androgens or even some kind of low-level female hormone regimen, either clinically or domestically. (There are reasons that were then and are partially now considered medically reasonable for doing that - chemical castration, for one, for instance when a poorly-managed autistic teenager develops a raging and violently-ideated libido - but God only knows why things happen under that fucking roof.)&lt;br /&gt;
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TL,DR: Chris might have girl parts and either his parents fucked with his endocrine system at a young age or things with his new boyfriend-free heartsweet are going to get weirder before they make perfect sense.&lt;br /&gt;
I've been suspicious of this since his first nudes went up, and this is just icing on the cake. And if you guys think he's a lulcow while he's trying to be a man...&lt;br /&gt;
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:nah he's just a dumb fatty -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 02:41, 1 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I have to agree with Acousticvirgin on this. While your theory is quite interesting...most of this can be explain just by looking at Chris and his family. Chris's family had him at a really old age. His mom was almost in menopause and his father was already a senior citizen. The father at such an old age could be a factor in Autism (it's a scientific theory) and his mother having him so close to menopause could be the reason for any hormonal imbalance (it's a scientific fact that when women are older when a child is born that hormonal imbalances can occur, ESPECIALLY if that older woman doesn't take the prenatal vitamins...). The fat distribution of Chris can be explain by either the hormonal imbalance or by the fact that he doesn't really move all the much, much less work out (or both combined). If you look at pictures of him in his HighSchool years he's a LOT thinner...most likely due to a high metabolism since he didn't work out and wasn't in sports. With his age he's either lost that metabolism or he's out-eating it, either is a possibility. The fact that he doesn't work out at all and doesn't really move around all that much means that there's going to be limited muscles there and much more fat. His arms are skinny because men usually don't get a whole bunch of fat there; his legs are kinda chunky, but men get that too. His butt, gut, and thighs are fat simply because that's where the fat goes. Now, the manboobs. Some men get moobs whether or not they have some gender issue...Chris on the other hand has a set that is way too big to be normal. This could be because of the hormonal imbalance from birth, OR because he doesn't work that muscle out at all. Most men do some form of exercise for that muscle whether or not they go to the gym. They lift things, they carry things, or just daily movement will work out the pectorals for men. The fact that this particular muscle gets NO exercise or movement from Chris could mean that the pectorals are much more fat than muscle. His sexual inexperience until 16 can be explained by parenting and by his autism. His parents never had any reason to discuss his puberty with him so he never really understood sex or masturbation until he saw it in a movie, and now that he does, he still only does it 1 or 2 times a week...quite abnormal for a boy/man from puberty to about 40 years old (age after puberty varies of course). Some autistics are asexual and never have sex throughout their lives because they don't understand sex nor do they really understand/want any kind of romantic relationship. The fact that Chris wants one so badly means nothing; he's shown that he doesn't really understand relationships and treats them like a 8 year old would. ===&amp;gt; TL,DR: Chris's parents had him at too old an age, that along with the fact that he's overweight and doesn't work out at all has made him who he is today... and more likely than not...it'll only get worse. (These pictures show an increased weight since the last time we've seen him; especially in the face and chest.) And Chris wants sex just because he doesn't want the title VIRGIN, he really has no sex drive.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:17, 1 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Now, we have to remember that Chris is very simple. When he had to choose between his console and his galpal, and he chose the galpal, he demanded to have the consol as well, because he did the right thing. Just like in the movies. Chris doesn't necessarily understand love or attraction, he merely knows that relationship is a good thing, and it should be desired. In his simple mind, a relationship with a woman means perfect, neverending happiness that will fix all his problems. [[User:Vergilius|Vergilius]] 13:08, 1 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*I'm inclined to agree with Acousticvirgin here as well. I think a more plausible explanation though, is that due to DA [[autism|AUTISM]], Chris doesn't understand gender as a construct very well and so goes crazy with it. Or Chris could just be stupid. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:55, 2 May 2011 (PDT) &lt;br /&gt;
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:Interesting theory, but I disagree with it. Klinefelter's patients tend to have unnatural looking body proportions (extremely long limbs, wide hips, short torsos), and have normal levels of intelligence (remember, Chris was on the Honor Roll). I don't think his bizarre fat deposits are caused by any meiotic disorder like Klinefelter's, but rather terrible diet fucking with his body, raising his estrogen levels, and causing him to develop gynecomastia. Once that happens, it causes him to have female-like fat deposits. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:01, 1 May 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*My two cents, for what it's worth. The moobs appear to be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynecomastia Gynecomastia] In short, estrogen made him grow boobs. Estrogen would also explain why his voice is in the annoyingly high pitched range. As for [http://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Klinefelter's_syndrome Klienfelter's Syndrome], the man child does in fact track rather well. Compare to this [http://www.andrologyjournal.org/content/vol29/issue6/images/large/andr-29-6-605-f01.jpeg Pic of man with Klienfilter's syndrome]. Thing is,[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditions_comorbid_to_autism_spectrum_disorders Autism is comorbid], so odds are it isn't just autism. In summation, odds are Chris has da autism and some kind of glandular disorder. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:43, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
----Oh, and here I thought that point had already been shot down half a dozen other times and people’d actually read other bad theories before posting theirs.  There's absolutely no sense to this theory, or for that matter anything remotely empiric behind it, but plenty plain to sight that shows it's impossible: Only people who don’t understand how gene expression and hormones work could think it makes sense. I don’t know where to start, there’s so much nonsence in that theory I might as well start picking it out.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; ''fat distribution and build are very effeminate...''&lt;br /&gt;
:What? Really, and here I thought comparing photos with a baseline would be easy, even for e-doctors. There’s hardly anything about that fat distribution that’s female. The fat went almost exclusively to his abdomen when he was just [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Cwcbraorig.JPG overweight], that’s the type of adipose distribution you get with testosterone. What’s more, the manboobs are dead common in obese men, you’re not just going to get the visceral [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:WantWoman.jpg FA5] type gut fat, but also tit fat, so by your standards [http://img.wikinut.com/img/4-hz_myuqu_9-u51/jpeg/0/Serious-obesity.jpeg fatguy here’s a dickgirl]. The fact that excess estrogens and mostly androgens(which worsen that acne) wind up being made by all that extra fat isn’t intersex.  &lt;br /&gt;
''&amp;gt;he looks androgynous leaning away from male.''&lt;br /&gt;
:And just how? A prominent [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:100_2296.JPG gablela/brow]  isn’t gender neutral, neither is his [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG21.jpg|square morphing into a pear face shape], he certainly has no problem in growing facial hair as these last photos show, his jawline isn’t slender even if the fat makes it hard to make out, that nose is kind of big &amp;amp; like the other features testosterone promotes their growth. Oh and his hairline is quite [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg high] around the temples and frontal, another manly trait. His face isn’t androgynous or gender neutral at all.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;''The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.'' &lt;br /&gt;
:It’s all wrong. If it actually were a urogenital intersex condition it’d have almost certainly been handled in a hospital by specialists, given how surgery is screened to more qualified MD, the chance of a inept hick doctor is nil. Never mind the fact that his dick doesn’t look like what you normally get from the infant sex assignment, and that his body certainly doesn’t match the phenotype you’d get with 5ARD Kleifeters or PAIS. The whole bit about his hairline ,[http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/a/ad/Personalprofile.jpg acne] and facial structure being too [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/6/67/0793-CWCIs24-2.jpg androgenized] and all.&lt;br /&gt;
Probably the most important thing about it all is that '''Autism is not something that correlates with estrogen'''. [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3040206/  Testosterone has a demonstrated casual role] in altering the expressions of genes to induce it, where as estrogen prevents it. Also Cohen’s research indicates that there is a very strong correlation for biomarkers indicating increased testosterone exposure/sensitivity and autism. So no, the idea of Chris being Estrogen dominant and ASD is nonsence. I could keep going on point by point on everything that’s wrong with this theory, but I think the point’s certainly been made. This theory keeps coming from people who just don't get how it works, so an overkill was in need.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:14, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*The prominent nipples are a dead giveaway to gyncomastia. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:21, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
:Have you ever looked at a fat man? Their nipples are enlarged, it's something that's induced by the adipose building up there, that's pseudogyncomastia. Unless if he's been sneaking his mother's premarin there isn't going to be much in the way of nodules there. It's possible that the adipose leads to more hormones and aromatase makes some of them into estrogen, but that's a common enough thing in the obese. It's an analogue to that why they also have higher DHT levels.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:25, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Congratulations ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Congratulations Chris (Or should I say Christina) You have finally come to terms with your sexuality and gender issues. The road ahead may still be windy but at least now you can be happy its the right track. I've never seen you so happy and content and this all of your doing. no manipulation here. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Seriously guys ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Next person who posts something not related to improving this page gets (temporarily) banned. This is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:53, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Well, don't know if it should be added to the picture captions but on the pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg A] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG4.jpg B] They are taken on the downtown mall. Pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg C] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg D] were taken in the Fashion Square mall, where the piercing pagoda is. And Finally, [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg Picture C] he is wearing his high school ring it but can't really tell. Unsure if linking to the downtown mall and the fashion square mall would be uneeded piping. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:50, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
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Mmkay, well, do we still have Chris's email address? Can we still reach him on online chats or whatever? Is there no way someone can get hold of him and gently interrogate him about HOLY CRAP CHRIS WHAT THE FUCK and add some substance and reasoning to the insanity displayed on this page? I'm sure he won't mind the attention. I'd volunteer, but, uh, Chris fucking scares me. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 12:22, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;If only we'd thought of that sooner. I'll contact all the trolls and let them know.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Chris doesn't answer emails or phonecalls. He's virtually impossible to contact unless you already have a foot in the door. If you did contact Chris, he would be largely unresponsive and then ignore you. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:27, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: /* Preexisting gender determination issues */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;In case anyone's wondering, the images are called &amp;quot;TG#&amp;quot; because TomGirl. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* '''MY EYES!''' CAN NOT UNSEE! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there ANY backstory to this?!? What I don't understand is that he 1) went into PUBLIC wearing this stuff (there's a picture of him at his mall) and 2) It looks like he shaved his underarms in one or two pictures...WHY?! Dear God why?! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 19:26, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Pretty sure he always shaved his underarms. I don't know why I know that. --[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 19:38, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I guess you don't understand hygiene, 4Macie. That's besides esthetics. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 06:02, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Yes but A. This is Chris, hygiene is a foreign word to him and B. Its aesthetics. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:35, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA &lt;br /&gt;
:The article could use some clarification as to what the hell is going on here. There's gotta be some sort of story behind this. What's the deal? This is some of Chris's weirdest antics yet. Just when you think the lulcow ran dry... [[User:Abyssal|Abyssal]] 19:42, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Note that both ears are pierced, not just the gay ear (see: cucumbers on eyes pic). Also, that's his real hair and the images aren't censored; he's  wearing a g-string. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Are they really pierced or are they those clip on/magnet ones?? Is there anyway we can tell?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:04, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: They're real. Trust me. If they were clip ons, there would be more of an indent. I'm also pretty sure that clip ons are bigger. The ones I had as a kid certainly were, and I was pretty into those things. [[User:PedoforkBait|PedoforkBait]] 20:08, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::: That would make sense...I bet the ring/hoop ones are fake though, there's no hole for them in other pictures (unless he got them later). And why are they so oddly placed?? They aren't on the lobe like they should be...unless they've changed where they put them now (I got mine when I was 7). Or...could he have done them himself??? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: They are real. Also, I'm not aware of any way to have a stud clip-on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 20:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*At this point, he's gotta be fucking with us. He wants to gross us out, so we don't bother him. --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 20:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: You think he pierced his ears to get us to leave him alone? [[User:PeachyKeen|PeachyKeen]] 20:20, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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He's using a real camara to take his picture in some of these, that's unusual. I wonder what the poor guy who had to develop them was thinking. O_o [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 20:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is probably a long shot, however I really think he did this for a girl. Most likely a girl who liked to dress up as a guy and wanted Chris to do the same. Or it's a really, really good troll. Either way, whoever made him do this is really good at what they do, because these pictures are FUCKING DISGUSTING. [[User:Mikau|Mikau]] 20:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: [[:File:TG3.jpg|&amp;quot;...when the government fears the people, there is liberty&amp;quot;]]. I'm sure this new heartsweet has her Guy Fawkes mask ready. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-size:smaller;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 02:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Let me tell you something, and like I said, this really isn't really the place to say it. But nonetheless, whenever I try to rationalize what Chris does, I usually get disappointed because the simple fact of the matter is - Chris is just fucked up.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The saddest thing about all this is that this didn't even suprise me in the slightest, I wasn't even mildly shocked to see Chris in drag, or even with a sock on his flacid manhood. --[[User:Gustofwind|Gustofwind]] 21:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: many are saying it isn't a sock...it's a g-string. You can't see the strings holding it up because of his gut roll over but when he does the picture of his butt, you can see the black thong part in the crack.....if you REALLY want to look that is. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Goddaemnd monkey-assed hell. Well, what do we do with this page? Start describing shit? In fuckin' ''detail''?! It could stand as is, like the CWCki's own personal 'shock page'...--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:00, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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INFO, somebody has it. Where are the pictures from? Did he upload them somewhere? Or is it old stuff made public by trolls? --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's all recent and Clyde got it by hacking Chris' PSN. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 22:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Excellent, this, coupled with the PSN being down, is probably the best chance we'll get at him returning. --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::PSN has been offline for a week all because of these photos, spread the word [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 22:15, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::In the meantime, someone try to find an appropreate picture of King Hippo from the Captain N cartoon; he also crossdresses, and he's also a fat, useless, discolored retard.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:17, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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In some of these, he looks uncannily like a fat version of Buffalo Bill. [[User:Vulture-chan|Vulture-chan]] 22:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I was about to ask if the PSN take down made him go further down the crazy hole o_o [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Chris has been at this a while, and you can tell because growing out hair takes a while. The PSN going down was coincidence. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 00:49, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I also love the claims that he is &amp;quot;straight&amp;quot;. Yeah, Chris is as &amp;quot;straight&amp;quot; as a circle &amp;gt;_&amp;gt; [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:34, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Circle? Try &amp;quot;ampersand.&amp;quot; --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:25, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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here's something everybody should think about: chris is wearing his mom's clothes. i mean surely he didn't pay for any of this shit when there are MOUNTAINS of free clothes blocking up whole rooms of his house. [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 00:36, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Already wore his mum's underwear that one time. Wouldn't be a new thing for him. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 01:19, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I wonder if Bob has caught this yet. [[User:Westbound|Westbound]] 05:08, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Guys, please, remember - this page is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. Srsly, I told you fuckers that that ModNation Racer character wasn't Crystal.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:22, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone with some solid info about this? Do this is a new saga? Who asked him to dress that way? Do we got any metadata linked to the picture so we can have time/date info? This is the best update for months and we got so little info on it. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 06:00, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I can talk to Tito about getting the raw images so we can get some metadata  behind these.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Could he be trying to be Crystal the Imaginary Twin sister? He tends to stick to the stripey clothing and jeans, which is pretty much what she wore [[User:PoppyPink|PoppyPink]] 00:24, 30 April 2011 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*This is pure speculation, but do you think it's Mic, the one girl he talked about in the Autism Tutorial?--[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 07:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The updates are few an far between, but when they come, they are fascinating. I especially like how the Sailor Moon poster is in some of the the pics. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 17:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is going to kill Bob. Chris has evolved into a Snorlax. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 04:01, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, there goes the theory of &amp;quot;Chris actually got his shit together and has begun leading a semi-normal life&amp;quot;. [[User: GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:02, 1 May 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Disturbing revelation ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg This pic] raises several disturbing things. First off, If you look in the background, you see the journey's sign. Why does this matter you ask?&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.simon.com/mall/MallDirectoryPrint.aspx?id=117 Fashion Square Mall Directory]&lt;br /&gt;
Journey's in the section labeled G on the map. Right near exact center of the mall, meaning he walked around like that near small children. It also explains where he might have picked up everything, for the women's Belk is right around the corner. The disturbing part is he walked around the mall a hop skip and a jump from where I work! And before you ask, no I didn't see him drag. Side note, he is wearing his ring again, see [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg this pic]. Also, there is a piercing pagoda in the mall. In summation, he got pierced, did up and bought his tranny clothes all in the mall most likely. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
: Is [http://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg this sign] somewhere in the mall? Is this part of some sort of cross-dressing awareness event, and is Chris just taking part? [[User:Turnabout|Turnabout]] 22:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
**It looks like the chalkboard Chris drew on in [[Chris's Big Night Out II]], which is in Charlottesville. That doesn't look like Chris's handwriting, so I think it's safe to assume he has a new, masculine gal-pal. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 10:25, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*That chalkboard is the free speech wall on the downtown mall. You know where he did the sonichu dash vid? Same location. It's at the end down near the post office and right near a merry go round. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:20, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
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== Info? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there ANY background to this? Like: where did he get the term &amp;quot;TomGirl&amp;quot; and why does he think it means to dress up like a girl? (aka: this is cross-dressing...not being a &amp;quot;TomGirl&amp;quot;) I guess it was said that this was hacked off his PS3 (PSN)..but WHY was it there in the first place?? He obviously took them for someone...he wouldn't have taken pictures of himself in drag if it was solely for his own viewing...would he??? I guess..&lt;br /&gt;
TL;DR:  Is there any information about this??? Someone has to know something! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Well [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomgirl Wikipedia] Explains a tomgirl is a reverse tomboy, a guy who acts girly, a femboi in essence is a tomgirl. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 21:06, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
::Hmmm...well that's a start. Though I think Chris took this one a little too far for it to still be &amp;quot;TomGirl&amp;quot;ish... Now we just need the WHY I guess. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:11, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::For the love of fuck just shut up and wait for the inevitable infodump that will explain everything.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:28, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::*True, though pretty much what's going on has already been explained by [[Tito]] [http://789chan.org/cwc/res/53442.html here]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:19, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Sweet merciful Jesus, he..he finally snapped, or he finally accepted it, just...wow. [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 21:32, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Preexisting gender determination issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There is so fucking much up with this guy I don't even know where to start, but cross-dressing is the tip of the fucking iceberg here. CWC genuinely has no masculine features except his receding hairline, and his fat distribution and build are very effeminate. (Not feminine - he looks androgynous leaning away from male.) The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.&lt;br /&gt;
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The thing here is to compare Chris to relatively masculine fatasses. Moobs that size on masculine men are usually accompanied by a pretty big stomach, and while CWC's breasts are obviously almost 100% the result of fat distribution, a massive amount of his excess fat is in typically female areas, i.e. hips, thighs, ass, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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The other side of the coin is that CWC has a lot of the features of abandoned or half-hearted male feminization - box tits with flat, weird nipples; an extremely protruberant but generally formless ass; the general fat and body pattern of a long post-menopause woman. In short, these people look like the Snorlax (as CWC has begun to) because, like her, the last major influence on their secondary sexual features is still high estrogen levels that are no longer significant enough to have a major effect.&lt;br /&gt;
Other relevant features of male-to-female transition, either medically or anecdotally ubiquitous, are the softening of body hair, the mild regrowth of scalp hair, emotional upheaval, sexual dysfunction, and massive mood swings. The last three of those are also attributable to testosterone therapy in patients with previously low testosterone levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not saying I'm sure there's some kind of congenital or external source of hormone problems for sure, but it seems pretty likely to me that either he was on testosterone for a brief period in response to an indifferent puberty from some sexual condition (possibly explaining his sudden and totally incomplete sexual awakening at 16) or he was, at some point between then and now, medicated with anti-androgens or even some kind of low-level female hormone regimen, either clinically or domestically. (There are reasons that were then and are partially now considered medically reasonable for doing that - chemical castration, for one, for instance when a poorly-managed autistic teenager develops a raging and violently-ideated libido - but God only knows why things happen under that fucking roof.)&lt;br /&gt;
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TL,DR: Chris might have girl parts and either his parents fucked with his endocrine system at a young age or things with his new boyfriend-free heartsweet are going to get weirder before they make perfect sense.&lt;br /&gt;
I've been suspicious of this since his first nudes went up, and this is just icing on the cake. And if you guys think he's a lulcow while he's trying to be a man...&lt;br /&gt;
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:nah he's just a dumb fatty -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 02:41, 1 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I have to agree with Acousticvirgin on this. While your theory is quite interesting...most of this can be explain just by looking at Chris and his family. Chris's family had him at a really old age. His mom was almost in menopause and his father was already a senior citizen. The father at such an old age could be a factor in Autism (it's a scientific theory) and his mother having him so close to menopause could be the reason for any hormonal imbalance (it's a scientific fact that when women are older when a child is born that hormonal imbalances can occur, ESPECIALLY if that older woman doesn't take the prenatal vitamins...). The fat distribution of Chris can be explain by either the hormonal imbalance or by the fact that he doesn't really move all the much, much less work out (or both combined). If you look at pictures of him in his HighSchool years he's a LOT thinner...most likely due to a high metabolism since he didn't work out and wasn't in sports. With his age he's either lost that metabolism or he's out-eating it, either is a possibility. The fact that he doesn't work out at all and doesn't really move around all that much means that there's going to be limited muscles there and much more fat. His arms are skinny because men usually don't get a whole bunch of fat there; his legs are kinda chunky, but men get that too. His butt, gut, and thighs are fat simply because that's where the fat goes. Now, the manboobs. Some men get moobs whether or not they have some gender issue...Chris on the other hand has a set that is way too big to be normal. This could be because of the hormonal imbalance from birth, OR because he doesn't work that muscle out at all. Most men do some form of exercise for that muscle whether or not they go to the gym. They lift things, they carry things, or just daily movement will work out the pectorals for men. The fact that this particular muscle gets NO exercise or movement from Chris could mean that the pectorals are much more fat than muscle. His sexual inexperience until 16 can be explained by parenting and by his autism. His parents never had any reason to discuss his puberty with him so he never really understood sex or masturbation until he saw it in a movie, and now that he does, he still only does it 1 or 2 times a week...quite abnormal for a boy/man from puberty to about 40 years old (age after puberty varies of course). Some autistics are asexual and never have sex throughout their lives because they don't understand sex nor do they really understand/want any kind of romantic relationship. The fact that Chris wants one so badly means nothing; he's shown that he doesn't really understand relationships and treats them like a 8 year old would. ===&amp;gt; TL,DR: Chris's parents had him at too old an age, that along with the fact that he's overweight and doesn't work out at all has made him who he is today... and more likely than not...it'll only get worse. (These pictures show an increased weight since the last time we've seen him; especially in the face and chest.) And Chris wants sex just because he doesn't want the title VIRGIN, he really has no sex drive.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:17, 1 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Now, we have to remember that Chris is very simple. When he had to choose between his console and his galpal, and he chose the galpal, he demanded to have the consol as well, because he did the right thing. Just like in the movies. Chris doesn't necessarily understand love or attraction, he merely knows that relationship is a good thing, and it should be desired. In his simple mind, a relationship with a woman means perfect, neverending happiness that will fix all his problems. [[User:Vergilius|Vergilius]] 13:08, 1 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*I'm inclined to agree with Acousticvirgin here as well. I think a more plausible explanation though, is that due to DA [[autism|AUTISM]], Chris doesn't understand gender as a construct very well and so goes crazy with it. Or Chris could just be stupid. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:55, 2 May 2011 (PDT) &lt;br /&gt;
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:Interesting theory, but I disagree with it. Klinefelter's patients tend to have unnatural looking body proportions (extremely long limbs, wide hips, short torsos), and have normal levels of intelligence (remember, Chris was on the Honor Roll). I don't think his bizarre fat deposits are caused by any meiotic disorder like Klinefelter's, but rather terrible diet fucking with his body, raising his estrogen levels, and causing him to develop gynecomastia. Once that happens, it causes him to have female-like fat deposits. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:01, 1 May 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*My two cents, for what it's worth. The moobs appear to be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynecomastia Gynecomastia] In short, estrogen made him grow boobs. Estrogen would also explain why his voice is in the annoyingly high pitched range. As for [http://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Klinefelter's_syndrome Klienfelter's Syndrome], the man child does in fact track rather well. Compare to this [http://www.andrologyjournal.org/content/vol29/issue6/images/large/andr-29-6-605-f01.jpeg Pic of man with Klienfilter's syndrome]. Thing is,[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditions_comorbid_to_autism_spectrum_disorders Autism is comorbid], so odds are it isn't just autism. In summation, odds are Chris has da autism and some kind of glandular disorder. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:43, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
----Oh, and here I thought that point had already been shot down half a dozen other times and people’d actually read other bad theories before posting theirs.  There's absolutely no sense to this theory, or for that matter anything remotely empiric behind it, but plenty plain to sight that shows it's impossible: Only people who don’t understand how gene expression and hormones work could think it makes sense. I don’t know where to start, there’s so much nonsence in that theory I might as well start picking it out.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; ''fat distribution and build are very effeminate...''&lt;br /&gt;
:What? Really, and here I thought comparing photos with a baseline would be easy, even for e-doctors. There’s hardly anything about that fat distribution that’s female. The fat went almost exclusively to his abdomen when he was just [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Cwcbraorig.JPG| overweight], that’s the type of adipose distribution you get with testosterone. What’s more, the manboobs are dead common in obese men, you’re not just going to get the visceral [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:WantWoman.jpg| FA5] type gut fat, but also tit fat, so by your standards [http://img.wikinut.com/img/4-hz_myuqu_9-u51/jpeg/0/Serious-obesity.jpeg| fatguy here’s a dickgirl]. The fact that excess estrogens and mostly androgens(which worsen that acne) wind up being made by all that extra fat isn’t intersex.  &lt;br /&gt;
''&amp;gt;he looks androgynous leaning away from male.''&lt;br /&gt;
:And just how? A prominent [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:100_2296.JPG| gablela/brow]  isn’t gender neutral, neither is his [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG21.jpg|square morphing into a pear face shape], he certainly has no problem in growing facial hair as these last photos show, his jawline isn’t slender even if the fat makes it hard to make out, that nose is kind of big &amp;amp; like the other features testosterone promotes their growth. Oh and his hairline is quite [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg| high] around the temples and frontal, another manly trait. His face isn’t androgynous or gender neutral at all.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;''The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.'' &lt;br /&gt;
:It’s all wrong. If it actually were a urogenital intersex condition it’d have almost certainly been handled in a hospital by specialists, given how surgery is screened to more qualified MD, the chance of a inept hick doctor is nil. Never mind the fact that his dick doesn’t look like what you normally get from the infant sex assignment, and that his body certainly doesn’t match the phenotype you’d get with 5ARD Kleifeters or PAIS. The whole bit about his hairline ,[http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/a/ad/Personalprofile.jpg| acne] and facial structure being too [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/6/67/0793-CWCIs24-2.jpg| androgenized] and all.&lt;br /&gt;
Probably the most important thing about it all is that '''Autism is not something that correlates with estrogen'''. [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3040206/| Testosterone has a demonstrated casual role] in altering the expressions of genes to induce it, where as estrogen prevents it. Also Cohen’s research indicates that there is a very strong correlation for biomarkers indicating increased testosterone exposure/sensitivity and autism. So no, the idea of Chris being Estrogen dominant and ASD is nonsence. I could keep going on point by point on everything that’s wrong with this theory, but I think the point’s certainly been made. This theory keeps coming from people who just don't get how it works, so an overkill was in need.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:14, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*The prominent nipples are a dead giveaway to gyncomastia. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:21, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
:Have you ever looked at a fat man? Their nipples are enlarged, it's something that's induced by the adipose building up there, that's pseudogyncomastia. Unless if he's been sneaking his mother's premarin there isn't going to be much in the way of nodules there. It's possible that the adipose leads to more hormones and aromatase makes some of them into estrogen, but that's a common enough thing in the obese. It's an analogue to that why they also have higher DHT levels.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:25, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Congratulations ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Congratulations Chris (Or should I say Christina) You have finally come to terms with your sexuality and gender issues. The road ahead may still be windy but at least now you can be happy its the right track. I've never seen you so happy and content and this all of your doing. no manipulation here. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Seriously guys ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Next person who posts something not related to improving this page gets (temporarily) banned. This is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:53, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Well, don't know if it should be added to the picture captions but on the pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg A] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG4.jpg B] They are taken on the downtown mall. Pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg C] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg D] were taken in the Fashion Square mall, where the piercing pagoda is. And Finally, [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg Picture C] he is wearing his high school ring it but can't really tell. Unsure if linking to the downtown mall and the fashion square mall would be uneeded piping. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:50, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
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== Contactin' C for article material ==&lt;br /&gt;
Mmkay, well, do we still have Chris's email address? Can we still reach him on online chats or whatever? Is there no way someone can get hold of him and gently interrogate him about HOLY CRAP CHRIS WHAT THE FUCK and add some substance and reasoning to the insanity displayed on this page? I'm sure he won't mind the attention. I'd volunteer, but, uh, Chris fucking scares me. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 12:22, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;If only we'd thought of that sooner. I'll contact all the trolls and let them know.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Chris doesn't answer emails or phonecalls. He's virtually impossible to contact unless you already have a foot in the door. If you did contact Chris, he would be largely unresponsive and then ignore you. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:27, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: /* Preexisting gender determination issues */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;In case anyone's wondering, the images are called &amp;quot;TG#&amp;quot; because TomGirl. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* '''MY EYES!''' CAN NOT UNSEE! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there ANY backstory to this?!? What I don't understand is that he 1) went into PUBLIC wearing this stuff (there's a picture of him at his mall) and 2) It looks like he shaved his underarms in one or two pictures...WHY?! Dear God why?! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 19:26, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Pretty sure he always shaved his underarms. I don't know why I know that. --[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 19:38, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I guess you don't understand hygiene, 4Macie. That's besides esthetics. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 06:02, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Yes but A. This is Chris, hygiene is a foreign word to him and B. Its aesthetics. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:35, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA &lt;br /&gt;
:The article could use some clarification as to what the hell is going on here. There's gotta be some sort of story behind this. What's the deal? This is some of Chris's weirdest antics yet. Just when you think the lulcow ran dry... [[User:Abyssal|Abyssal]] 19:42, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Note that both ears are pierced, not just the gay ear (see: cucumbers on eyes pic). Also, that's his real hair and the images aren't censored; he's  wearing a g-string. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Are they really pierced or are they those clip on/magnet ones?? Is there anyway we can tell?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:04, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: They're real. Trust me. If they were clip ons, there would be more of an indent. I'm also pretty sure that clip ons are bigger. The ones I had as a kid certainly were, and I was pretty into those things. [[User:PedoforkBait|PedoforkBait]] 20:08, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::: That would make sense...I bet the ring/hoop ones are fake though, there's no hole for them in other pictures (unless he got them later). And why are they so oddly placed?? They aren't on the lobe like they should be...unless they've changed where they put them now (I got mine when I was 7). Or...could he have done them himself??? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: They are real. Also, I'm not aware of any way to have a stud clip-on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 20:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*At this point, he's gotta be fucking with us. He wants to gross us out, so we don't bother him. --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 20:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: You think he pierced his ears to get us to leave him alone? [[User:PeachyKeen|PeachyKeen]] 20:20, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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He's using a real camara to take his picture in some of these, that's unusual. I wonder what the poor guy who had to develop them was thinking. O_o [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 20:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is probably a long shot, however I really think he did this for a girl. Most likely a girl who liked to dress up as a guy and wanted Chris to do the same. Or it's a really, really good troll. Either way, whoever made him do this is really good at what they do, because these pictures are FUCKING DISGUSTING. [[User:Mikau|Mikau]] 20:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: [[:File:TG3.jpg|&amp;quot;...when the government fears the people, there is liberty&amp;quot;]]. I'm sure this new heartsweet has her Guy Fawkes mask ready. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-size:smaller;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 02:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Let me tell you something, and like I said, this really isn't really the place to say it. But nonetheless, whenever I try to rationalize what Chris does, I usually get disappointed because the simple fact of the matter is - Chris is just fucked up.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The saddest thing about all this is that this didn't even suprise me in the slightest, I wasn't even mildly shocked to see Chris in drag, or even with a sock on his flacid manhood. --[[User:Gustofwind|Gustofwind]] 21:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: many are saying it isn't a sock...it's a g-string. You can't see the strings holding it up because of his gut roll over but when he does the picture of his butt, you can see the black thong part in the crack.....if you REALLY want to look that is. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Goddaemnd monkey-assed hell. Well, what do we do with this page? Start describing shit? In fuckin' ''detail''?! It could stand as is, like the CWCki's own personal 'shock page'...--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:00, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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INFO, somebody has it. Where are the pictures from? Did he upload them somewhere? Or is it old stuff made public by trolls? --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's all recent and Clyde got it by hacking Chris' PSN. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 22:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Excellent, this, coupled with the PSN being down, is probably the best chance we'll get at him returning. --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::PSN has been offline for a week all because of these photos, spread the word [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 22:15, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::In the meantime, someone try to find an appropreate picture of King Hippo from the Captain N cartoon; he also crossdresses, and he's also a fat, useless, discolored retard.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:17, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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In some of these, he looks uncannily like a fat version of Buffalo Bill. [[User:Vulture-chan|Vulture-chan]] 22:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I was about to ask if the PSN take down made him go further down the crazy hole o_o [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Chris has been at this a while, and you can tell because growing out hair takes a while. The PSN going down was coincidence. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 00:49, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I also love the claims that he is &amp;quot;straight&amp;quot;. Yeah, Chris is as &amp;quot;straight&amp;quot; as a circle &amp;gt;_&amp;gt; [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:34, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Circle? Try &amp;quot;ampersand.&amp;quot; --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:25, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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here's something everybody should think about: chris is wearing his mom's clothes. i mean surely he didn't pay for any of this shit when there are MOUNTAINS of free clothes blocking up whole rooms of his house. [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 00:36, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Already wore his mum's underwear that one time. Wouldn't be a new thing for him. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 01:19, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I wonder if Bob has caught this yet. [[User:Westbound|Westbound]] 05:08, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Guys, please, remember - this page is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. Srsly, I told you fuckers that that ModNation Racer character wasn't Crystal.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:22, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone with some solid info about this? Do this is a new saga? Who asked him to dress that way? Do we got any metadata linked to the picture so we can have time/date info? This is the best update for months and we got so little info on it. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 06:00, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I can talk to Tito about getting the raw images so we can get some metadata  behind these.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Could he be trying to be Crystal the Imaginary Twin sister? He tends to stick to the stripey clothing and jeans, which is pretty much what she wore [[User:PoppyPink|PoppyPink]] 00:24, 30 April 2011 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*This is pure speculation, but do you think it's Mic, the one girl he talked about in the Autism Tutorial?--[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 07:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The updates are few an far between, but when they come, they are fascinating. I especially like how the Sailor Moon poster is in some of the the pics. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 17:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is going to kill Bob. Chris has evolved into a Snorlax. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 04:01, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, there goes the theory of &amp;quot;Chris actually got his shit together and has begun leading a semi-normal life&amp;quot;. [[User: GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:02, 1 May 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Disturbing revelation ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg This pic] raises several disturbing things. First off, If you look in the background, you see the journey's sign. Why does this matter you ask?&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.simon.com/mall/MallDirectoryPrint.aspx?id=117 Fashion Square Mall Directory]&lt;br /&gt;
Journey's in the section labeled G on the map. Right near exact center of the mall, meaning he walked around like that near small children. It also explains where he might have picked up everything, for the women's Belk is right around the corner. The disturbing part is he walked around the mall a hop skip and a jump from where I work! And before you ask, no I didn't see him drag. Side note, he is wearing his ring again, see [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg this pic]. Also, there is a piercing pagoda in the mall. In summation, he got pierced, did up and bought his tranny clothes all in the mall most likely. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
: Is [http://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg this sign] somewhere in the mall? Is this part of some sort of cross-dressing awareness event, and is Chris just taking part? [[User:Turnabout|Turnabout]] 22:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
**It looks like the chalkboard Chris drew on in [[Chris's Big Night Out II]], which is in Charlottesville. That doesn't look like Chris's handwriting, so I think it's safe to assume he has a new, masculine gal-pal. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 10:25, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*That chalkboard is the free speech wall on the downtown mall. You know where he did the sonichu dash vid? Same location. It's at the end down near the post office and right near a merry go round. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:20, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
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== Info? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there ANY background to this? Like: where did he get the term &amp;quot;TomGirl&amp;quot; and why does he think it means to dress up like a girl? (aka: this is cross-dressing...not being a &amp;quot;TomGirl&amp;quot;) I guess it was said that this was hacked off his PS3 (PSN)..but WHY was it there in the first place?? He obviously took them for someone...he wouldn't have taken pictures of himself in drag if it was solely for his own viewing...would he??? I guess..&lt;br /&gt;
TL;DR:  Is there any information about this??? Someone has to know something! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Well [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomgirl Wikipedia] Explains a tomgirl is a reverse tomboy, a guy who acts girly, a femboi in essence is a tomgirl. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 21:06, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
::Hmmm...well that's a start. Though I think Chris took this one a little too far for it to still be &amp;quot;TomGirl&amp;quot;ish... Now we just need the WHY I guess. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:11, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::For the love of fuck just shut up and wait for the inevitable infodump that will explain everything.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:28, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::*True, though pretty much what's going on has already been explained by [[Tito]] [http://789chan.org/cwc/res/53442.html here]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:19, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Sweet merciful Jesus, he..he finally snapped, or he finally accepted it, just...wow. [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 21:32, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Preexisting gender determination issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There is so fucking much up with this guy I don't even know where to start, but cross-dressing is the tip of the fucking iceberg here. CWC genuinely has no masculine features except his receding hairline, and his fat distribution and build are very effeminate. (Not feminine - he looks androgynous leaning away from male.) The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.&lt;br /&gt;
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The thing here is to compare Chris to relatively masculine fatasses. Moobs that size on masculine men are usually accompanied by a pretty big stomach, and while CWC's breasts are obviously almost 100% the result of fat distribution, a massive amount of his excess fat is in typically female areas, i.e. hips, thighs, ass, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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The other side of the coin is that CWC has a lot of the features of abandoned or half-hearted male feminization - box tits with flat, weird nipples; an extremely protruberant but generally formless ass; the general fat and body pattern of a long post-menopause woman. In short, these people look like the Snorlax (as CWC has begun to) because, like her, the last major influence on their secondary sexual features is still high estrogen levels that are no longer significant enough to have a major effect.&lt;br /&gt;
Other relevant features of male-to-female transition, either medically or anecdotally ubiquitous, are the softening of body hair, the mild regrowth of scalp hair, emotional upheaval, sexual dysfunction, and massive mood swings. The last three of those are also attributable to testosterone therapy in patients with previously low testosterone levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not saying I'm sure there's some kind of congenital or external source of hormone problems for sure, but it seems pretty likely to me that either he was on testosterone for a brief period in response to an indifferent puberty from some sexual condition (possibly explaining his sudden and totally incomplete sexual awakening at 16) or he was, at some point between then and now, medicated with anti-androgens or even some kind of low-level female hormone regimen, either clinically or domestically. (There are reasons that were then and are partially now considered medically reasonable for doing that - chemical castration, for one, for instance when a poorly-managed autistic teenager develops a raging and violently-ideated libido - but God only knows why things happen under that fucking roof.)&lt;br /&gt;
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TL,DR: Chris might have girl parts and either his parents fucked with his endocrine system at a young age or things with his new boyfriend-free heartsweet are going to get weirder before they make perfect sense.&lt;br /&gt;
I've been suspicious of this since his first nudes went up, and this is just icing on the cake. And if you guys think he's a lulcow while he's trying to be a man...&lt;br /&gt;
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:nah he's just a dumb fatty -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 02:41, 1 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I have to agree with Acousticvirgin on this. While your theory is quite interesting...most of this can be explain just by looking at Chris and his family. Chris's family had him at a really old age. His mom was almost in menopause and his father was already a senior citizen. The father at such an old age could be a factor in Autism (it's a scientific theory) and his mother having him so close to menopause could be the reason for any hormonal imbalance (it's a scientific fact that when women are older when a child is born that hormonal imbalances can occur, ESPECIALLY if that older woman doesn't take the prenatal vitamins...). The fat distribution of Chris can be explain by either the hormonal imbalance or by the fact that he doesn't really move all the much, much less work out (or both combined). If you look at pictures of him in his HighSchool years he's a LOT thinner...most likely due to a high metabolism since he didn't work out and wasn't in sports. With his age he's either lost that metabolism or he's out-eating it, either is a possibility. The fact that he doesn't work out at all and doesn't really move around all that much means that there's going to be limited muscles there and much more fat. His arms are skinny because men usually don't get a whole bunch of fat there; his legs are kinda chunky, but men get that too. His butt, gut, and thighs are fat simply because that's where the fat goes. Now, the manboobs. Some men get moobs whether or not they have some gender issue...Chris on the other hand has a set that is way too big to be normal. This could be because of the hormonal imbalance from birth, OR because he doesn't work that muscle out at all. Most men do some form of exercise for that muscle whether or not they go to the gym. They lift things, they carry things, or just daily movement will work out the pectorals for men. The fact that this particular muscle gets NO exercise or movement from Chris could mean that the pectorals are much more fat than muscle. His sexual inexperience until 16 can be explained by parenting and by his autism. His parents never had any reason to discuss his puberty with him so he never really understood sex or masturbation until he saw it in a movie, and now that he does, he still only does it 1 or 2 times a week...quite abnormal for a boy/man from puberty to about 40 years old (age after puberty varies of course). Some autistics are asexual and never have sex throughout their lives because they don't understand sex nor do they really understand/want any kind of romantic relationship. The fact that Chris wants one so badly means nothing; he's shown that he doesn't really understand relationships and treats them like a 8 year old would. ===&amp;gt; TL,DR: Chris's parents had him at too old an age, that along with the fact that he's overweight and doesn't work out at all has made him who he is today... and more likely than not...it'll only get worse. (These pictures show an increased weight since the last time we've seen him; especially in the face and chest.) And Chris wants sex just because he doesn't want the title VIRGIN, he really has no sex drive.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:17, 1 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Now, we have to remember that Chris is very simple. When he had to choose between his console and his galpal, and he chose the galpal, he demanded to have the consol as well, because he did the right thing. Just like in the movies. Chris doesn't necessarily understand love or attraction, he merely knows that relationship is a good thing, and it should be desired. In his simple mind, a relationship with a woman means perfect, neverending happiness that will fix all his problems. [[User:Vergilius|Vergilius]] 13:08, 1 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*I'm inclined to agree with Acousticvirgin here as well. I think a more plausible explanation though, is that due to DA [[autism|AUTISM]], Chris doesn't understand gender as a construct very well and so goes crazy with it. Or Chris could just be stupid. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:55, 2 May 2011 (PDT) &lt;br /&gt;
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:Interesting theory, but I disagree with it. Klinefelter's patients tend to have unnatural looking body proportions (extremely long limbs, wide hips, short torsos), and have normal levels of intelligence (remember, Chris was on the Honor Roll). I don't think his bizarre fat deposits are caused by any meiotic disorder like Klinefelter's, but rather terrible diet fucking with his body, raising his estrogen levels, and causing him to develop gynecomastia. Once that happens, it causes him to have female-like fat deposits. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:01, 1 May 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*My two cents, for what it's worth. The moobs appear to be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynecomastia Gynecomastia] In short, estrogen made him grow boobs. Estrogen would also explain why his voice is in the annoyingly high pitched range. As for [http://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Klinefelter's_syndrome Klienfelter's Syndrome], the man child does in fact track rather well. Compare to this [http://www.andrologyjournal.org/content/vol29/issue6/images/large/andr-29-6-605-f01.jpeg Pic of man with Klienfilter's syndrome]. Thing is,[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditions_comorbid_to_autism_spectrum_disorders Autism is comorbid], so odds are it isn't just autism. In summation, odds are Chris has da autism and some kind of glandular disorder. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:43, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
----Oh, and here I thought that point had already been shot down half a dozen other times and people’d actually read other bad theories before posting theirs.  There's absolutely no sense to this theory, or for that matter anything remotely empiric behind it, but plenty plain to sight that shows it's impossible: Only people who don’t understand how gene expression and hormones work could think it makes sense. I don’t know where to start, there’s so much nonsence in that theory I might as well start picking it out.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; ''fat distribution and build are very effeminate...''&lt;br /&gt;
:What? Really, and here I thought comparing photos with a baseline would be easy, even for e-doctors. There’s hardly anything about that fat distribution that’s female. The fat went almost exclusively to his abdomen when he was just [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Cwcbraorig.JPG| overweight], that’s the type of adipose distribution you get with testosterone. What’s more, the manboobs are dead common in obese men, you’re not just going to get the visceral [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:WantWoman.jpg| FA5] type gut fat, but also tit fat, so by your standards [http://img.wikinut.com/img/4-hz_myuqu_9-u51/jpeg/0/Serious-obesity.jpeg| fatguy here’s a dickgirl]. The fact that excess estrogens and mostly androgens(which worsen that acne) wind up being made by all that extra fat isn’t intersex.  &lt;br /&gt;
''&amp;gt;he looks androgynous leaning away from male.''&lt;br /&gt;
:And just how? A prominent [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:100_2296.JPG| gablela/brow]  isn’t gender neutral, neither is his [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG21.jpg|square morphing into a pear face shape], he certainly has no problem in growing facial hair as these last photos show, his jawline isn’t slender even if the fat makes it hard to make out, that nose is kind of big &amp;amp; like the other features testosterone promotes their growth. Oh and his hairline is quite [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg| high] around the temples and frontal, another manly trait. His face isn’t androgynous or gender neutral at all.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;''The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.'' &lt;br /&gt;
:It’s all wrong. If it actually were a urogenital intersex condition it’d have almost certainly been handled in a hospital by specialists, given how surgery is screened to more qualified MD, the chance of a inept hick doctor is nil. Never mind the fact that his dick doesn’t look like what you normally get from the infant sex assignment, and that his body certainly doesn’t match the phenotype you’d get with 5ARD Kleifeters or PAIS. The whole bit about his hairline ,[http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/a/ad/Personalprofile.jpg| acne] and facial structure being too [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/6/67/0793-CWCIs24-2.jpg| androgenized] and all.&lt;br /&gt;
Probably the most important thing about it all is that '''Autism is not something that correlates with estrogen'''. [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3040206/| Testosterone has a demonstrated casual role] in altering the expressions of genes to induce it, where as estrogen prevents it. Also Cohen’s research indicates that there is a very strong correlation for biomarkers indicating increased testosterone exposure/sensitivity and autism. So no, the idea of Chris being Estrogen dominant and ASD is nonsence. I could keep going on point by point on everything that’s wrong with this theory, but I think the point’s certainly been made. This theory keeps coming from people who just don't get how it works, so an overkill was in need.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:14, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*The prominent nipples are a dead giveaway to gyncomastia. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:21, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
:Have you ever looked at a fat man? Their nipples are enlarged, it's something that's induced by the addipose building up there, that's pseudogyncomastia. It's possible that the adipose leads to more hormones and aromatase makes some of them into estrogen, but that's a common enough thing in the obeese. It's an analogue to that why they also have higher DHT levels.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:25, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Congratulations ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Congratulations Chris (Or should I say Christina) You have finally come to terms with your sexuality and gender issues. The road ahead may still be windy but at least now you can be happy its the right track. I've never seen you so happy and content and this all of your doing. no manipulation here. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Seriously guys ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Next person who posts something not related to improving this page gets (temporarily) banned. This is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:53, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Well, don't know if it should be added to the picture captions but on the pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg A] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG4.jpg B] They are taken on the downtown mall. Pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg C] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg D] were taken in the Fashion Square mall, where the piercing pagoda is. And Finally, [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg Picture C] he is wearing his high school ring it but can't really tell. Unsure if linking to the downtown mall and the fashion square mall would be uneeded piping. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:50, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
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Mmkay, well, do we still have Chris's email address? Can we still reach him on online chats or whatever? Is there no way someone can get hold of him and gently interrogate him about HOLY CRAP CHRIS WHAT THE FUCK and add some substance and reasoning to the insanity displayed on this page? I'm sure he won't mind the attention. I'd volunteer, but, uh, Chris fucking scares me. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 12:22, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;If only we'd thought of that sooner. I'll contact all the trolls and let them know.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Chris doesn't answer emails or phonecalls. He's virtually impossible to contact unless you already have a foot in the door. If you did contact Chris, he would be largely unresponsive and then ignore you. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:27, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;In case anyone's wondering, the images are called &amp;quot;TG#&amp;quot; because TomGirl. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* '''MY EYES!''' CAN NOT UNSEE! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there ANY backstory to this?!? What I don't understand is that he 1) went into PUBLIC wearing this stuff (there's a picture of him at his mall) and 2) It looks like he shaved his underarms in one or two pictures...WHY?! Dear God why?! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 19:26, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Pretty sure he always shaved his underarms. I don't know why I know that. --[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 19:38, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I guess you don't understand hygiene, 4Macie. That's besides esthetics. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 06:02, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Yes but A. This is Chris, hygiene is a foreign word to him and B. Its aesthetics. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:35, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA &lt;br /&gt;
:The article could use some clarification as to what the hell is going on here. There's gotta be some sort of story behind this. What's the deal? This is some of Chris's weirdest antics yet. Just when you think the lulcow ran dry... [[User:Abyssal|Abyssal]] 19:42, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Note that both ears are pierced, not just the gay ear (see: cucumbers on eyes pic). Also, that's his real hair and the images aren't censored; he's  wearing a g-string. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Are they really pierced or are they those clip on/magnet ones?? Is there anyway we can tell?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:04, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: They're real. Trust me. If they were clip ons, there would be more of an indent. I'm also pretty sure that clip ons are bigger. The ones I had as a kid certainly were, and I was pretty into those things. [[User:PedoforkBait|PedoforkBait]] 20:08, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::: That would make sense...I bet the ring/hoop ones are fake though, there's no hole for them in other pictures (unless he got them later). And why are they so oddly placed?? They aren't on the lobe like they should be...unless they've changed where they put them now (I got mine when I was 7). Or...could he have done them himself??? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: They are real. Also, I'm not aware of any way to have a stud clip-on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 20:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*At this point, he's gotta be fucking with us. He wants to gross us out, so we don't bother him. --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 20:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: You think he pierced his ears to get us to leave him alone? [[User:PeachyKeen|PeachyKeen]] 20:20, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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He's using a real camara to take his picture in some of these, that's unusual. I wonder what the poor guy who had to develop them was thinking. O_o [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 20:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is probably a long shot, however I really think he did this for a girl. Most likely a girl who liked to dress up as a guy and wanted Chris to do the same. Or it's a really, really good troll. Either way, whoever made him do this is really good at what they do, because these pictures are FUCKING DISGUSTING. [[User:Mikau|Mikau]] 20:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: [[:File:TG3.jpg|&amp;quot;...when the government fears the people, there is liberty&amp;quot;]]. I'm sure this new heartsweet has her Guy Fawkes mask ready. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-size:smaller;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 02:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Let me tell you something, and like I said, this really isn't really the place to say it. But nonetheless, whenever I try to rationalize what Chris does, I usually get disappointed because the simple fact of the matter is - Chris is just fucked up.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The saddest thing about all this is that this didn't even suprise me in the slightest, I wasn't even mildly shocked to see Chris in drag, or even with a sock on his flacid manhood. --[[User:Gustofwind|Gustofwind]] 21:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: many are saying it isn't a sock...it's a g-string. You can't see the strings holding it up because of his gut roll over but when he does the picture of his butt, you can see the black thong part in the crack.....if you REALLY want to look that is. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Goddaemnd monkey-assed hell. Well, what do we do with this page? Start describing shit? In fuckin' ''detail''?! It could stand as is, like the CWCki's own personal 'shock page'...--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:00, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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INFO, somebody has it. Where are the pictures from? Did he upload them somewhere? Or is it old stuff made public by trolls? --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's all recent and Clyde got it by hacking Chris' PSN. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 22:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Excellent, this, coupled with the PSN being down, is probably the best chance we'll get at him returning. --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::PSN has been offline for a week all because of these photos, spread the word [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 22:15, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::In the meantime, someone try to find an appropreate picture of King Hippo from the Captain N cartoon; he also crossdresses, and he's also a fat, useless, discolored retard.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:17, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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In some of these, he looks uncannily like a fat version of Buffalo Bill. [[User:Vulture-chan|Vulture-chan]] 22:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I was about to ask if the PSN take down made him go further down the crazy hole o_o [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Chris has been at this a while, and you can tell because growing out hair takes a while. The PSN going down was coincidence. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 00:49, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I also love the claims that he is &amp;quot;straight&amp;quot;. Yeah, Chris is as &amp;quot;straight&amp;quot; as a circle &amp;gt;_&amp;gt; [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:34, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Circle? Try &amp;quot;ampersand.&amp;quot; --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:25, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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here's something everybody should think about: chris is wearing his mom's clothes. i mean surely he didn't pay for any of this shit when there are MOUNTAINS of free clothes blocking up whole rooms of his house. [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 00:36, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Already wore his mum's underwear that one time. Wouldn't be a new thing for him. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 01:19, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I wonder if Bob has caught this yet. [[User:Westbound|Westbound]] 05:08, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Guys, please, remember - this page is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. Srsly, I told you fuckers that that ModNation Racer character wasn't Crystal.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:22, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone with some solid info about this? Do this is a new saga? Who asked him to dress that way? Do we got any metadata linked to the picture so we can have time/date info? This is the best update for months and we got so little info on it. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 06:00, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I can talk to Tito about getting the raw images so we can get some metadata  behind these.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Could he be trying to be Crystal the Imaginary Twin sister? He tends to stick to the stripey clothing and jeans, which is pretty much what she wore [[User:PoppyPink|PoppyPink]] 00:24, 30 April 2011 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*This is pure speculation, but do you think it's Mic, the one girl he talked about in the Autism Tutorial?--[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 07:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The updates are few an far between, but when they come, they are fascinating. I especially like how the Sailor Moon poster is in some of the the pics. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 17:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is going to kill Bob. Chris has evolved into a Snorlax. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 04:01, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, there goes the theory of &amp;quot;Chris actually got his shit together and has begun leading a semi-normal life&amp;quot;. [[User: GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:02, 1 May 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Disturbing revelation ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg This pic] raises several disturbing things. First off, If you look in the background, you see the journey's sign. Why does this matter you ask?&lt;br /&gt;
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Journey's in the section labeled G on the map. Right near exact center of the mall, meaning he walked around like that near small children. It also explains where he might have picked up everything, for the women's Belk is right around the corner. The disturbing part is he walked around the mall a hop skip and a jump from where I work! And before you ask, no I didn't see him drag. Side note, he is wearing his ring again, see [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg this pic]. Also, there is a piercing pagoda in the mall. In summation, he got pierced, did up and bought his tranny clothes all in the mall most likely. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
: Is [http://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg this sign] somewhere in the mall? Is this part of some sort of cross-dressing awareness event, and is Chris just taking part? [[User:Turnabout|Turnabout]] 22:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
**It looks like the chalkboard Chris drew on in [[Chris's Big Night Out II]], which is in Charlottesville. That doesn't look like Chris's handwriting, so I think it's safe to assume he has a new, masculine gal-pal. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 10:25, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*That chalkboard is the free speech wall on the downtown mall. You know where he did the sonichu dash vid? Same location. It's at the end down near the post office and right near a merry go round. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:20, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there ANY background to this? Like: where did he get the term &amp;quot;TomGirl&amp;quot; and why does he think it means to dress up like a girl? (aka: this is cross-dressing...not being a &amp;quot;TomGirl&amp;quot;) I guess it was said that this was hacked off his PS3 (PSN)..but WHY was it there in the first place?? He obviously took them for someone...he wouldn't have taken pictures of himself in drag if it was solely for his own viewing...would he??? I guess..&lt;br /&gt;
TL;DR:  Is there any information about this??? Someone has to know something! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Well [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomgirl Wikipedia] Explains a tomgirl is a reverse tomboy, a guy who acts girly, a femboi in essence is a tomgirl. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 21:06, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
::Hmmm...well that's a start. Though I think Chris took this one a little too far for it to still be &amp;quot;TomGirl&amp;quot;ish... Now we just need the WHY I guess. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:11, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::For the love of fuck just shut up and wait for the inevitable infodump that will explain everything.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:28, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::*True, though pretty much what's going on has already been explained by [[Tito]] [http://789chan.org/cwc/res/53442.html here]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:19, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Sweet merciful Jesus, he..he finally snapped, or he finally accepted it, just...wow. [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 21:32, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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There is so fucking much up with this guy I don't even know where to start, but cross-dressing is the tip of the fucking iceberg here. CWC genuinely has no masculine features except his receding hairline, and his fat distribution and build are very effeminate. (Not feminine - he looks androgynous leaning away from male.) The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.&lt;br /&gt;
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The thing here is to compare Chris to relatively masculine fatasses. Moobs that size on masculine men are usually accompanied by a pretty big stomach, and while CWC's breasts are obviously almost 100% the result of fat distribution, a massive amount of his excess fat is in typically female areas, i.e. hips, thighs, ass, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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The other side of the coin is that CWC has a lot of the features of abandoned or half-hearted male feminization - box tits with flat, weird nipples; an extremely protruberant but generally formless ass; the general fat and body pattern of a long post-menopause woman. In short, these people look like the Snorlax (as CWC has begun to) because, like her, the last major influence on their secondary sexual features is still high estrogen levels that are no longer significant enough to have a major effect.&lt;br /&gt;
Other relevant features of male-to-female transition, either medically or anecdotally ubiquitous, are the softening of body hair, the mild regrowth of scalp hair, emotional upheaval, sexual dysfunction, and massive mood swings. The last three of those are also attributable to testosterone therapy in patients with previously low testosterone levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not saying I'm sure there's some kind of congenital or external source of hormone problems for sure, but it seems pretty likely to me that either he was on testosterone for a brief period in response to an indifferent puberty from some sexual condition (possibly explaining his sudden and totally incomplete sexual awakening at 16) or he was, at some point between then and now, medicated with anti-androgens or even some kind of low-level female hormone regimen, either clinically or domestically. (There are reasons that were then and are partially now considered medically reasonable for doing that - chemical castration, for one, for instance when a poorly-managed autistic teenager develops a raging and violently-ideated libido - but God only knows why things happen under that fucking roof.)&lt;br /&gt;
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TL,DR: Chris might have girl parts and either his parents fucked with his endocrine system at a young age or things with his new boyfriend-free heartsweet are going to get weirder before they make perfect sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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:nah he's just a dumb fatty -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 02:41, 1 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I have to agree with Acousticvirgin on this. While your theory is quite interesting...most of this can be explain just by looking at Chris and his family. Chris's family had him at a really old age. His mom was almost in menopause and his father was already a senior citizen. The father at such an old age could be a factor in Autism (it's a scientific theory) and his mother having him so close to menopause could be the reason for any hormonal imbalance (it's a scientific fact that when women are older when a child is born that hormonal imbalances can occur, ESPECIALLY if that older woman doesn't take the prenatal vitamins...). The fat distribution of Chris can be explain by either the hormonal imbalance or by the fact that he doesn't really move all the much, much less work out (or both combined). If you look at pictures of him in his HighSchool years he's a LOT thinner...most likely due to a high metabolism since he didn't work out and wasn't in sports. With his age he's either lost that metabolism or he's out-eating it, either is a possibility. The fact that he doesn't work out at all and doesn't really move around all that much means that there's going to be limited muscles there and much more fat. His arms are skinny because men usually don't get a whole bunch of fat there; his legs are kinda chunky, but men get that too. His butt, gut, and thighs are fat simply because that's where the fat goes. Now, the manboobs. Some men get moobs whether or not they have some gender issue...Chris on the other hand has a set that is way too big to be normal. This could be because of the hormonal imbalance from birth, OR because he doesn't work that muscle out at all. Most men do some form of exercise for that muscle whether or not they go to the gym. They lift things, they carry things, or just daily movement will work out the pectorals for men. The fact that this particular muscle gets NO exercise or movement from Chris could mean that the pectorals are much more fat than muscle. His sexual inexperience until 16 can be explained by parenting and by his autism. His parents never had any reason to discuss his puberty with him so he never really understood sex or masturbation until he saw it in a movie, and now that he does, he still only does it 1 or 2 times a week...quite abnormal for a boy/man from puberty to about 40 years old (age after puberty varies of course). Some autistics are asexual and never have sex throughout their lives because they don't understand sex nor do they really understand/want any kind of romantic relationship. The fact that Chris wants one so badly means nothing; he's shown that he doesn't really understand relationships and treats them like a 8 year old would. ===&amp;gt; TL,DR: Chris's parents had him at too old an age, that along with the fact that he's overweight and doesn't work out at all has made him who he is today... and more likely than not...it'll only get worse. (These pictures show an increased weight since the last time we've seen him; especially in the face and chest.) And Chris wants sex just because he doesn't want the title VIRGIN, he really has no sex drive.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:17, 1 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Now, we have to remember that Chris is very simple. When he had to choose between his console and his galpal, and he chose the galpal, he demanded to have the consol as well, because he did the right thing. Just like in the movies. Chris doesn't necessarily understand love or attraction, he merely knows that relationship is a good thing, and it should be desired. In his simple mind, a relationship with a woman means perfect, neverending happiness that will fix all his problems. [[User:Vergilius|Vergilius]] 13:08, 1 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*I'm inclined to agree with Acousticvirgin here as well. I think a more plausible explanation though, is that due to DA [[autism|AUTISM]], Chris doesn't understand gender as a construct very well and so goes crazy with it. Or Chris could just be stupid. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:55, 2 May 2011 (PDT) &lt;br /&gt;
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:Interesting theory, but I disagree with it. Klinefelter's patients tend to have unnatural looking body proportions (extremely long limbs, wide hips, short torsos), and have normal levels of intelligence (remember, Chris was on the Honor Roll). I don't think his bizarre fat deposits are caused by any meiotic disorder like Klinefelter's, but rather terrible diet fucking with his body, raising his estrogen levels, and causing him to develop gynecomastia. Once that happens, it causes him to have female-like fat deposits. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:01, 1 May 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*My two cents, for what it's worth. The moobs appear to be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynecomastia Gynecomastia] In short, estrogen made him grow boobs. Estrogen would also explain why his voice is in the annoyingly high pitched range. As for [http://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Klinefelter's_syndrome Klienfelter's Syndrome], the man child does in fact track rather well. Compare to this [http://www.andrologyjournal.org/content/vol29/issue6/images/large/andr-29-6-605-f01.jpeg Pic of man with Klienfilter's syndrome]. Thing is,[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditions_comorbid_to_autism_spectrum_disorders Autism is comorbid], so odds are it isn't just autism. In summation, odds are Chris has da autism and some kind of glandular disorder. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:43, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
----Oh, and here I thought that point had already been shot down half a dozen other times and people’d actually read other bad theories before posting theirs.  There's absolutely no sense to this theory, or for that matter anything remotely empiric behind it, but plenty plain to sight that shows it's impossible: Only people who don’t understand how gene expression and hormones work could think it makes sense. I don’t know where to start, there’s so much nonsence in that theory I might as well start picking it out.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; ''fat distribution and build are very effeminate...''&lt;br /&gt;
:What? Really, and here I thought comparing photos with a baseline would be easy, even for e-doctors. There’s hardly anything about that fat distribution that’s female. The fat went almost exclusively to his abdomen when he was just [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Cwcbraorig.JPG| overweight], that’s the type of adipose distribution you get with testosterone. What’s more, the manboobs are dead common in obese men, you’re not just going to get the visceral [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:WantWoman.jpg| FA5] type gut fat, but also tit fat, so by your standards [http://img.wikinut.com/img/4-hz_myuqu_9-u51/jpeg/0/Serious-obesity.jpeg| fatguy here’s a dickgirl]. The fact that excess estrogens and mostly androgens(which worsen that acne) wind up being made by all that extra fat isn’t intersex.  &lt;br /&gt;
''&amp;gt;he looks androgynous leaning away from male.''&lt;br /&gt;
:And just how? A prominent [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:100_2296.JPG| gablela/brow]  isn’t gender neutral, neither is his [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG21.jpg|square morphing into a pear face shape], he certainly has no problem in growing facial hair as these last photos show, his jawline isn’t slender even if the fat makes it hard to make out, that nose is kind of big &amp;amp; like the other features testosterone promotes their growth. Oh and his hairline is quite [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg| high] around the temples and frontal, another manly trait. His face isn’t androgynous or gender neutral at all.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;''The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.'' &lt;br /&gt;
:It’s all wrong. If it actually were a urogenital intersex condition it’d have almost certainly been handled in a hospital by specialists, given how surgery is screened to more qualified MD, the chance of a inept hick doctor is nil. Never mind the fact that his dick doesn’t look like what you normally get from the infant sex assignment, and that his body certainly doesn’t match the phenotype you’d get with 5ARD Kleifeters or PAIS. The whole bit about his hairline ,[http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/a/ad/Personalprofile.jpg| acne] and facial structure being too [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/6/67/0793-CWCIs24-2.jpg| androgenized] and all.&lt;br /&gt;
Probably the most important thing about it all is that '''Autism is not something that correlates with estrogen'''. [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3040206/| Testosterone has a demonstrated casual role] in altering the expressions of genes to induce it, where as estrogen prevents it. Also Cohen’s research indicates that there is a very strong correlation for biomarkers indicating increased testosterone exposure/sensitivity and autism. So no, the idea of Chris being Estrogen dominant and ASD is nonsence. I could keep going on point by point on everything that’s wrong with this theory, but I think the point’s certainly been made. This theory keeps coming from people who just don't get how it works, so an overkill was in need.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:14, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Congratulations Chris (Or should I say Christina) You have finally come to terms with your sexuality and gender issues. The road ahead may still be windy but at least now you can be happy its the right track. I've never seen you so happy and content and this all of your doing. no manipulation here. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Seriously guys ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Next person who posts something not related to improving this page gets (temporarily) banned. This is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:53, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Well, don't know if it should be added to the picture captions but on the pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg A] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG4.jpg B] They are taken on the downtown mall. Pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg C] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg D] were taken in the Fashion Square mall, where the piercing pagoda is. And Finally, [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg Picture C] he is wearing his high school ring it but can't really tell. Unsure if linking to the downtown mall and the fashion square mall would be uneeded piping. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:50, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
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Mmkay, well, do we still have Chris's email address? Can we still reach him on online chats or whatever? Is there no way someone can get hold of him and gently interrogate him about HOLY CRAP CHRIS WHAT THE FUCK and add some substance and reasoning to the insanity displayed on this page? I'm sure he won't mind the attention. I'd volunteer, but, uh, Chris fucking scares me. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 12:22, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;If only we'd thought of that sooner. I'll contact all the trolls and let them know.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Chris doesn't answer emails or phonecalls. He's virtually impossible to contact unless you already have a foot in the door. If you did contact Chris, he would be largely unresponsive and then ignore you. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:27, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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* '''MY EYES!''' CAN NOT UNSEE! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there ANY backstory to this?!? What I don't understand is that he 1) went into PUBLIC wearing this stuff (there's a picture of him at his mall) and 2) It looks like he shaved his underarms in one or two pictures...WHY?! Dear God why?! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 19:26, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Pretty sure he always shaved his underarms. I don't know why I know that. --[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 19:38, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I guess you don't understand hygiene, 4Macie. That's besides esthetics. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 06:02, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Yes but A. This is Chris, hygiene is a foreign word to him and B. Its aesthetics. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:35, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA &lt;br /&gt;
:The article could use some clarification as to what the hell is going on here. There's gotta be some sort of story behind this. What's the deal? This is some of Chris's weirdest antics yet. Just when you think the lulcow ran dry... [[User:Abyssal|Abyssal]] 19:42, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Note that both ears are pierced, not just the gay ear (see: cucumbers on eyes pic). Also, that's his real hair and the images aren't censored; he's  wearing a g-string. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Are they really pierced or are they those clip on/magnet ones?? Is there anyway we can tell?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:04, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: They're real. Trust me. If they were clip ons, there would be more of an indent. I'm also pretty sure that clip ons are bigger. The ones I had as a kid certainly were, and I was pretty into those things. [[User:PedoforkBait|PedoforkBait]] 20:08, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::: That would make sense...I bet the ring/hoop ones are fake though, there's no hole for them in other pictures (unless he got them later). And why are they so oddly placed?? They aren't on the lobe like they should be...unless they've changed where they put them now (I got mine when I was 7). Or...could he have done them himself??? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: They are real. Also, I'm not aware of any way to have a stud clip-on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 20:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*At this point, he's gotta be fucking with us. He wants to gross us out, so we don't bother him. --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 20:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: You think he pierced his ears to get us to leave him alone? [[User:PeachyKeen|PeachyKeen]] 20:20, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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He's using a real camara to take his picture in some of these, that's unusual. I wonder what the poor guy who had to develop them was thinking. O_o [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 20:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is probably a long shot, however I really think he did this for a girl. Most likely a girl who liked to dress up as a guy and wanted Chris to do the same. Or it's a really, really good troll. Either way, whoever made him do this is really good at what they do, because these pictures are FUCKING DISGUSTING. [[User:Mikau|Mikau]] 20:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: [[:File:TG3.jpg|&amp;quot;...when the government fears the people, there is liberty&amp;quot;]]. I'm sure this new heartsweet has her Guy Fawkes mask ready. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-size:smaller;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 02:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Let me tell you something, and like I said, this really isn't really the place to say it. But nonetheless, whenever I try to rationalize what Chris does, I usually get disappointed because the simple fact of the matter is - Chris is just fucked up.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The saddest thing about all this is that this didn't even suprise me in the slightest, I wasn't even mildly shocked to see Chris in drag, or even with a sock on his flacid manhood. --[[User:Gustofwind|Gustofwind]] 21:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: many are saying it isn't a sock...it's a g-string. You can't see the strings holding it up because of his gut roll over but when he does the picture of his butt, you can see the black thong part in the crack.....if you REALLY want to look that is. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Goddaemnd monkey-assed hell. Well, what do we do with this page? Start describing shit? In fuckin' ''detail''?! It could stand as is, like the CWCki's own personal 'shock page'...--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:00, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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INFO, somebody has it. Where are the pictures from? Did he upload them somewhere? Or is it old stuff made public by trolls? --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's all recent and Clyde got it by hacking Chris' PSN. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 22:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Excellent, this, coupled with the PSN being down, is probably the best chance we'll get at him returning. --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::PSN has been offline for a week all because of these photos, spread the word [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 22:15, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::In the meantime, someone try to find an appropreate picture of King Hippo from the Captain N cartoon; he also crossdresses, and he's also a fat, useless, discolored retard.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:17, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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In some of these, he looks uncannily like a fat version of Buffalo Bill. [[User:Vulture-chan|Vulture-chan]] 22:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I was about to ask if the PSN take down made him go further down the crazy hole o_o [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Chris has been at this a while, and you can tell because growing out hair takes a while. The PSN going down was coincidence. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 00:49, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I also love the claims that he is &amp;quot;straight&amp;quot;. Yeah, Chris is as &amp;quot;straight&amp;quot; as a circle &amp;gt;_&amp;gt; [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:34, 28 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Circle? Try &amp;quot;ampersand.&amp;quot; --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:25, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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here's something everybody should think about: chris is wearing his mom's clothes. i mean surely he didn't pay for any of this shit when there are MOUNTAINS of free clothes blocking up whole rooms of his house. [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 00:36, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Already wore his mum's underwear that one time. Wouldn't be a new thing for him. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 01:19, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I wonder if Bob has caught this yet. [[User:Westbound|Westbound]] 05:08, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Guys, please, remember - this page is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. Srsly, I told you fuckers that that ModNation Racer character wasn't Crystal.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:22, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone with some solid info about this? Do this is a new saga? Who asked him to dress that way? Do we got any metadata linked to the picture so we can have time/date info? This is the best update for months and we got so little info on it. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 06:00, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I can talk to Tito about getting the raw images so we can get some metadata  behind these.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Could he be trying to be Crystal the Imaginary Twin sister? He tends to stick to the stripey clothing and jeans, which is pretty much what she wore [[User:PoppyPink|PoppyPink]] 00:24, 30 April 2011 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*This is pure speculation, but do you think it's Mic, the one girl he talked about in the Autism Tutorial?--[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 07:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The updates are few an far between, but when they come, they are fascinating. I especially like how the Sailor Moon poster is in some of the the pics. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 17:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is going to kill Bob. Chris has evolved into a Snorlax. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 04:01, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, there goes the theory of &amp;quot;Chris actually got his shit together and has begun leading a semi-normal life&amp;quot;. [[User: GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:02, 1 May 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Disturbing revelation ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg This pic] raises several disturbing things. First off, If you look in the background, you see the journey's sign. Why does this matter you ask?&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.simon.com/mall/MallDirectoryPrint.aspx?id=117 Fashion Square Mall Directory]&lt;br /&gt;
Journey's in the section labeled G on the map. Right near exact center of the mall, meaning he walked around like that near small children. It also explains where he might have picked up everything, for the women's Belk is right around the corner. The disturbing part is he walked around the mall a hop skip and a jump from where I work! And before you ask, no I didn't see him drag. Side note, he is wearing his ring again, see [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg this pic]. Also, there is a piercing pagoda in the mall. In summation, he got pierced, did up and bought his tranny clothes all in the mall most likely. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
: Is [http://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg this sign] somewhere in the mall? Is this part of some sort of cross-dressing awareness event, and is Chris just taking part? [[User:Turnabout|Turnabout]] 22:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
**It looks like the chalkboard Chris drew on in [[Chris's Big Night Out II]], which is in Charlottesville. That doesn't look like Chris's handwriting, so I think it's safe to assume he has a new, masculine gal-pal. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 10:25, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*That chalkboard is the free speech wall on the downtown mall. You know where he did the sonichu dash vid? Same location. It's at the end down near the post office and right near a merry go round. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:20, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there ANY background to this? Like: where did he get the term &amp;quot;TomGirl&amp;quot; and why does he think it means to dress up like a girl? (aka: this is cross-dressing...not being a &amp;quot;TomGirl&amp;quot;) I guess it was said that this was hacked off his PS3 (PSN)..but WHY was it there in the first place?? He obviously took them for someone...he wouldn't have taken pictures of himself in drag if it was solely for his own viewing...would he??? I guess..&lt;br /&gt;
TL;DR:  Is there any information about this??? Someone has to know something! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Well [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomgirl Wikipedia] Explains a tomgirl is a reverse tomboy, a guy who acts girly, a femboi in essence is a tomgirl. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 21:06, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
::Hmmm...well that's a start. Though I think Chris took this one a little too far for it to still be &amp;quot;TomGirl&amp;quot;ish... Now we just need the WHY I guess. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:11, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::For the love of fuck just shut up and wait for the inevitable infodump that will explain everything.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:28, 29 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::*True, though pretty much what's going on has already been explained by [[Tito]] [http://789chan.org/cwc/res/53442.html here]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:19, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Sweet merciful Jesus, he..he finally snapped, or he finally accepted it, just...wow. [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 21:32, 30 April 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Preexisting gender determination issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There is so fucking much up with this guy I don't even know where to start, but cross-dressing is the tip of the fucking iceberg here. CWC genuinely has no masculine features except his receding hairline, and his fat distribution and build are very effeminate. (Not feminine - he looks androgynous leaning away from male.) The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.&lt;br /&gt;
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The thing here is to compare Chris to relatively masculine fatasses. Moobs that size on masculine men are usually accompanied by a pretty big stomach, and while CWC's breasts are obviously almost 100% the result of fat distribution, a massive amount of his excess fat is in typically female areas, i.e. hips, thighs, ass, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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The other side of the coin is that CWC has a lot of the features of abandoned or half-hearted male feminization - box tits with flat, weird nipples; an extremely protruberant but generally formless ass; the general fat and body pattern of a long post-menopause woman. In short, these people look like the Snorlax (as CWC has begun to) because, like her, the last major influence on their secondary sexual features is still high estrogen levels that are no longer significant enough to have a major effect.&lt;br /&gt;
Other relevant features of male-to-female transition, either medically or anecdotally ubiquitous, are the softening of body hair, the mild regrowth of scalp hair, emotional upheaval, sexual dysfunction, and massive mood swings. The last three of those are also attributable to testosterone therapy in patients with previously low testosterone levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not saying I'm sure there's some kind of congenital or external source of hormone problems for sure, but it seems pretty likely to me that either he was on testosterone for a brief period in response to an indifferent puberty from some sexual condition (possibly explaining his sudden and totally incomplete sexual awakening at 16) or he was, at some point between then and now, medicated with anti-androgens or even some kind of low-level female hormone regimen, either clinically or domestically. (There are reasons that were then and are partially now considered medically reasonable for doing that - chemical castration, for one, for instance when a poorly-managed autistic teenager develops a raging and violently-ideated libido - but God only knows why things happen under that fucking roof.)&lt;br /&gt;
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TL,DR: Chris might have girl parts and either his parents fucked with his endocrine system at a young age or things with his new boyfriend-free heartsweet are going to get weirder before they make perfect sense.&lt;br /&gt;
I've been suspicious of this since his first nudes went up, and this is just icing on the cake. And if you guys think he's a lulcow while he's trying to be a man...&lt;br /&gt;
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:nah he's just a dumb fatty -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 02:41, 1 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I have to agree with Acousticvirgin on this. While your theory is quite interesting...most of this can be explain just by looking at Chris and his family. Chris's family had him at a really old age. His mom was almost in menopause and his father was already a senior citizen. The father at such an old age could be a factor in Autism (it's a scientific theory) and his mother having him so close to menopause could be the reason for any hormonal imbalance (it's a scientific fact that when women are older when a child is born that hormonal imbalances can occur, ESPECIALLY if that older woman doesn't take the prenatal vitamins...). The fat distribution of Chris can be explain by either the hormonal imbalance or by the fact that he doesn't really move all the much, much less work out (or both combined). If you look at pictures of him in his HighSchool years he's a LOT thinner...most likely due to a high metabolism since he didn't work out and wasn't in sports. With his age he's either lost that metabolism or he's out-eating it, either is a possibility. The fact that he doesn't work out at all and doesn't really move around all that much means that there's going to be limited muscles there and much more fat. His arms are skinny because men usually don't get a whole bunch of fat there; his legs are kinda chunky, but men get that too. His butt, gut, and thighs are fat simply because that's where the fat goes. Now, the manboobs. Some men get moobs whether or not they have some gender issue...Chris on the other hand has a set that is way too big to be normal. This could be because of the hormonal imbalance from birth, OR because he doesn't work that muscle out at all. Most men do some form of exercise for that muscle whether or not they go to the gym. They lift things, they carry things, or just daily movement will work out the pectorals for men. The fact that this particular muscle gets NO exercise or movement from Chris could mean that the pectorals are much more fat than muscle. His sexual inexperience until 16 can be explained by parenting and by his autism. His parents never had any reason to discuss his puberty with him so he never really understood sex or masturbation until he saw it in a movie, and now that he does, he still only does it 1 or 2 times a week...quite abnormal for a boy/man from puberty to about 40 years old (age after puberty varies of course). Some autistics are asexual and never have sex throughout their lives because they don't understand sex nor do they really understand/want any kind of romantic relationship. The fact that Chris wants one so badly means nothing; he's shown that he doesn't really understand relationships and treats them like a 8 year old would. ===&amp;gt; TL,DR: Chris's parents had him at too old an age, that along with the fact that he's overweight and doesn't work out at all has made him who he is today... and more likely than not...it'll only get worse. (These pictures show an increased weight since the last time we've seen him; especially in the face and chest.) And Chris wants sex just because he doesn't want the title VIRGIN, he really has no sex drive.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:17, 1 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Now, we have to remember that Chris is very simple. When he had to choose between his console and his galpal, and he chose the galpal, he demanded to have the consol as well, because he did the right thing. Just like in the movies. Chris doesn't necessarily understand love or attraction, he merely knows that relationship is a good thing, and it should be desired. In his simple mind, a relationship with a woman means perfect, neverending happiness that will fix all his problems. [[User:Vergilius|Vergilius]] 13:08, 1 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*I'm inclined to agree with Acousticvirgin here as well. I think a more plausible explanation though, is that due to DA [[autism|AUTISM]], Chris doesn't understand gender as a construct very well and so goes crazy with it. Or Chris could just be stupid. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:55, 2 May 2011 (PDT) &lt;br /&gt;
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:Interesting theory, but I disagree with it. Klinefelter's patients tend to have unnatural looking body proportions (extremely long limbs, wide hips, short torsos), and have normal levels of intelligence (remember, Chris was on the Honor Roll). I don't think his bizarre fat deposits are caused by any meiotic disorder like Klinefelter's, but rather terrible diet fucking with his body, raising his estrogen levels, and causing him to develop gynecomastia. Once that happens, it causes him to have female-like fat deposits. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:01, 1 May 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*My two cents, for what it's worth. The moobs appear to be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynecomastia Gynecomastia] In short, estrogen made him grow boobs. Estrogen would also explain why his voice is in the annoyingly high pitched range. As for [http://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Klinefelter's_syndrome Klienfelter's Syndrome], the man child does in fact track rather well. Compare to this [http://www.andrologyjournal.org/content/vol29/issue6/images/large/andr-29-6-605-f01.jpeg Pic of man with Klienfilter's syndrome]. Thing is,[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditions_comorbid_to_autism_spectrum_disorders Autism is comorbid], so odds are it isn't just autism. In summation, odds are Chris has da autism and some kind of glandular disorder. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:43, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
----Oh, and here I thought that point had already been shot down half a dozen other times and people’d actually read other bad theories before posting theirs.  There's absolutely no sense to this theory, or for that matter anything remotely empiric behind it, but plenty plain to sight that shows it's impossible: Only people who don’t understand how gene expression and hormones work could think it makes sense. I don’t know where to start, there’s so much nonsence in that theory I might as well start picking it out.&lt;br /&gt;
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:What? Really, and here I thought comparing photos with a baseline would be easy, even for e-doctors. There’s hardly anything about that fat distribution that’s female. The fat went almost exclusively to his abdomen when he was just [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Cwcbraorig.JPG| overweight], that’s the type of adipose distribution you get with testosterone. What’s more, the manboobs are dead common in obese men, you’re not just going to get the visceral [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:WantWoman.jpg| FA5] type gut fat, but also tit fat, so by your standards [http://img.wikinut.com/img/4-hz_myuqu_9-u51/jpeg/0/Serious-obesity.jpeg| fatguy here’s a dickgirl]. The fact that excess estrogens and mostly androgens(which worsen that acne) wind up being made by all that extra fat isn’t intersex.  &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;he looks androgynous leaning away from male.&lt;br /&gt;
:And just how? A prominent [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:100_2296.JPG| gablela/brow]  isn’t gender neutral, neither is his [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG21.jpg|square morphing into a pear face shape], he certainly has no problem in growing facial hair as these last photos show, his jawline isn’t slender even if the fat makes it hard to make out, that nose is kind of big &amp;amp; like the other features testosterone promotes their growth. Oh and his hairline is quite [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg| high] around the temples and frontal, another manly trait. His face isn’t androgynous or gender neutral at all.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome. &lt;br /&gt;
:It’s all wrong. If it actually were a urogenital intersex condition it’d have almost certainly been handled in a hospital by specialists, given how surgery is screened to more qualified MD, the chance of a inept hick doctor is nil. Never mind the fact that his dick doesn’t look like what you normally get from the infant sex assignment, and that his body certainly doesn’t match the phenotype you’d get with 5ARD Kleifeters or PAIS. The whole bit about his hairline , acne http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/a/ad/Personalprofile.jpg &lt;br /&gt;
and facial structure being too [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/6/67/0793-CWCIs24-2.jpg| androgenized] and all.&lt;br /&gt;
Probably the most important thing about it all is that '''Autism is not something that correlates with estrogen'''. [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3040206/| Testosterone has a demonstrated casual role] in altering the expressions of genes to induce it, where as estrogen prevents it. Also Cohen’s research indicates that there is a very strong correlation for biomarkers indicating increased testosterone exposure/sensitivity and autism. So no, the idea of Chris being Estrogen dominant and ASD is nonsence. I could keep going on point by point on everything that’s wrong with this theory, but I think the point’s certainly been made. This theory keeps coming from people who just don't get how it works, so an overkill was in need.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:14, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Congratulations ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Congratulations Chris (Or should I say Christina) You have finally come to terms with your sexuality and gender issues. The road ahead may still be windy but at least now you can be happy its the right track. I've never seen you so happy and content and this all of your doing. no manipulation here. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Seriously guys ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Next person who posts something not related to improving this page gets (temporarily) banned. This is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:53, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Well, don't know if it should be added to the picture captions but on the pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg A] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG4.jpg B] They are taken on the downtown mall. Pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg C] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg D] were taken in the Fashion Square mall, where the piercing pagoda is. And Finally, [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg Picture C] he is wearing his high school ring it but can't really tell. Unsure if linking to the downtown mall and the fashion square mall would be uneeded piping. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:50, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA&lt;br /&gt;
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== Contactin' C for article material ==&lt;br /&gt;
Mmkay, well, do we still have Chris's email address? Can we still reach him on online chats or whatever? Is there no way someone can get hold of him and gently interrogate him about HOLY CRAP CHRIS WHAT THE FUCK and add some substance and reasoning to the insanity displayed on this page? I'm sure he won't mind the attention. I'd volunteer, but, uh, Chris fucking scares me. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 12:22, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;If only we'd thought of that sooner. I'll contact all the trolls and let them know.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Chris doesn't answer emails or phonecalls. He's virtually impossible to contact unless you already have a foot in the door. If you did contact Chris, he would be largely unresponsive and then ignore you. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:27, 2 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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Messages should go on the talk page, bro. I've already moved your post over there. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 23:14, 6 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==We're a lot alike, you and me... ==&lt;br /&gt;
In what way are you not like Chris? Because you seem at least as pathetic as him. I guess plagiarists need to stick together, eh? [[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]]&lt;br /&gt;
::Lets see: Widespread &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;plagiarism&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; artistic borrowing, a lack of artistic unity, a lack of professional quality in works that are presented as such &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(hello vanity publishing/sonichu copyright)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;, self promotion in unrelated places, and a superpowered SI surrounded by &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;boyfriend free girls&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; women to make up for an underwhelming real life... Yeah, it's like I'm reading Sonichu&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;©&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; light. We've even got the same regurgitation of tv lines. - [[User:Kei|Kei]] 12:14, 8 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You're just another faggot who says &amp;quot;I'm better than Chris&amp;quot; to justify their existence while at the same time doing the same stupid bullshit (making comics NO ONE READS) at the same time. Go away. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 11:56, 15 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==i don't like you==&lt;br /&gt;
You're just another faggot who says &amp;quot;I'm better than the people who troll Chris who ARE EVIL PEOPLE so therefore I'm fucking awesome&amp;quot; to justify their existence while at the same time doing stupid bullshit (making comics almost 5 people read) at the same time. Go away. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 01:50, 16 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==sup son==&lt;br /&gt;
Your one of my least favourite members on this board. Your litteraly homosexual, your a furry, your a juggalo, you like fat women, you wanted to fuck your mother, you mother fucker, you like to take it up the ass and suck dick and u brag about it, and u think you are way funnier than you really are. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 11:03, 16 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Why do you hate America's children?==&lt;br /&gt;
Do you ''not'' want kids to eat food that actually has some sort of nutritional value? Are you '''IN FAVOR OF CHILDHOOD OBESITY'''? [[User:Massive Dynamic|Massive Dynamic]] 14:38, 16 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''I don't want Michelle Obama telling me what snacks I may consume'''&lt;br /&gt;
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The bill only applies to public schools, which are federally funded. It's the federal government passing a law that affects a federal institution. Should they not be able to control something in their own organization? It won't affect what snacks get stuck in the beard you meticulously crafted using the Spray tool in MSPaint. &lt;br /&gt;
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And children's programming was always stupid and full of fluff. Why are you watching kiddie shows at your age, anyway? [[User:Massive Dynamic|Massive Dynamic]] 11:24, 17 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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You still didn't answer my question about why you watch so many kids shows in the first place. The 80s stuff, I guess I can understand. It makes you nostalgic for the time when we didn't have ratings and when Z. Cavariccis were popular or whatever. But why, in your late 20s did you just suddenly get into Pokemon and Histeria? Or Kim Possible for that matter. &lt;br /&gt;
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If you had to take care of your kids or nephew or younger siblings and that's what they watched, I could see you getting a little kick out of it. Or if you were a pothead, that's a valid excuse. Potheads eat and watch all kinds of things when they're bored and high. But you're a straitlaced arch-conservative mystery &amp;quot;writer&amp;quot; who doesn't have any kids and judging by your general demeanor and your Chris-Chanian dream of returning to college solely for the cable and the coochie, you won't have any. [[User:Massive Dynamic|Massive Dynamic]] 10:23, 18 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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P.S. Your shitty comic's self-insert protagonist looks like Arthur. Stop watching PBS, son.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Get out of bed!==&lt;br /&gt;
''[walks into Icon's bedroom, making furnace noises through snuffle]'' f-f-f-f-f ''[in a normal voice]'' Get out of bed! Snuffle-uffle-snuffle-uffle-snuffle-uffle-snuffle-uffle... --[[User:Snuffleupagus|Snuffleupagus]] 06:41, 17 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Virginal Plagiarist==&lt;br /&gt;
He also steals ideas, and ain't never got no sex. He did meet a girl once, and she was creeped out by him. He's still stalking her.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]] 10:05, 17 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nice Site-- NOT ==&lt;br /&gt;
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McAfee found a virus the moment I opened your site in a new tab. Now I'm never reading your shit.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 16:20, 17 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==College Relationships==&lt;br /&gt;
What's wrong with sluts? Just because you couldn't fuck a slut? What's you plan? &amp;quot;Hey guys! There's this slut running around, and she totally wants dick, and she's rela easy as long as you aren't a total creep! She'll fuck you and suck the male essence from your cock! WATCH OUT FOR THAT ONE&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd be keeping an eye out for her too. &lt;br /&gt;
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Because I like easy sex. Why do you hate fun? [[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]] 10:36, 18 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
==Re: &amp;quot;Fuzzy Door empire&amp;quot;, Books for college, the “ObamaCable Box”&amp;amp; dorm-brothels==&lt;br /&gt;
There’s a huge difference: they get their work published and they get paid for it. Getting money for writing and vanity publishing with the hope that it will net you money isn't the same thing and I don’t think I’ve ever heard of someone making a consequential amount through the second way. Seriously, you’d be better off if you just took a govt grant and loans&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(I know they happen to be your own [[Greene County Conspiracy| Green County]] and all but...)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; for the sake of finishing school: the networking you’d get from dealing with the staff would in itself help you at publishing more than anything you’re currently doing.  &lt;br /&gt;
And what, I really hope you don’t think college is supposed to be like that.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:32, 18 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hey ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey you, you know, I've been keeping an eye on you. You and me should be friends, you know? We could go places you see. I'm at this forum, PVCC, we need moderators. I say it might be something for you, no? Contact me, or we could maybe talk on Skype. Delicioso, comprendre? [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 16:07, 18 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Yeah, something like that, I also like how you're standing up against FreeCell's bullshit. We need some freedom in here. Hasta la victoria siempre, mi compadre. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 05:36, 19 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ok let me explain this to you==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm literally inches away from banning you. Removing talk page messages is vandalism, even if it's on your own page, unless you have permission from the author. For 3 days I've reverted this same edit. Do it again and you're gone. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 00:10, 19 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Here's the Deal==&lt;br /&gt;
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People are telling me that I'm correct in thinking that removing messages from your own talk page counts as something I can ban. I'm going to wait until Champthom is online so I can get his opinion, because he knows the rules better than probably anyone else. You might be unbanned or you might be permabanned, depending on what I hear from Champ. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 01:17, 19 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hey hey hey   ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Just thought you might want to know you're getting [http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Iconoclast#Iconoclast_the_Liberal pretty famous] out there. Looks like you're one step closer to geting the exposure you wanted.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 18:08, 23 February 2011 (PST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: /* Hormonal imbalance */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Hey we should add a &amp;quot;gallery of fatness&amp;quot; to the bottom of the page with pictures of his horrible fatness.--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 19:01, 23 July 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
*That's not such a bad idea, I suppose. What would be best is if you could make them show how much he has ballooned over the years. [[User:Dormiebasne|Dormiebasne]] 21:20, 23 July 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
**That is an even better idea--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 23:09, 23 July 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Damn, I wish he was one of those people who took a photo of himself once a day. Then we could make an animation. [[User:Dann Woolf|Dann Woolf]] 15:33, 16 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Moved the gallery of hair. --[[User:Garfield|Garfield]] 03:14, 25 July 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Cool!--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 16:50, 29 July 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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In Kacey's recollection of her date with Chris, she mentioned how he would sweat profusely just by walking. Where in the article should I add that? --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 21:17, 14 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Need to do ==&lt;br /&gt;
*Probably move the hair to Sonichu Girls or just make a new page for it, I think it warrants its own page because it also demonstrates MEXICAN SONICHU and poor Spanish&lt;br /&gt;
*Also, incorporate chris's coke habits (the drink) http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?n2bjtmemyyj [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 19:33, 29 September 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Chris and Strength? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris seems to suffer form delusions that he's really strong and a good fighter. I'd go into more depth except that I'm not really strong nor a good fighter. All I know is that he's worse at both than me. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 06:26, 13 October 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weird section ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The article currently says: &amp;quot;''Chris has probably never had any regular exercise since leaving high school, and the lack of physical activity has contributed to his already ballooning shape. It has also left his skin a frightening white that starkly contrasts to the dark background of his room while making videos.''&amp;quot; Now, I'm not a medical professional or anything, but I'm pretty sure exercise level doesn't have much to do with skin color.  The second sentence should probably be moved or at least clarified.&lt;br /&gt;
*No, I think that's more or less sun. Trust me, if you can get him to push carts during the summer at some Wal-Mart or whatever, his skin'll look a million times better. Of course, we're talking about Chris, who thinks item stockers in retail are &amp;quot;heavyweights&amp;quot;.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 20:24, 7 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*I have edited it as such:''&amp;quot;Since he barely leave his house and focus his time on playing videogames, his lack of exposure to the sunlight left his skin a frightening white that starkly contrasts to the dark background of his room while making videos.&amp;quot;'' I hope it will please Mr. Anonymous... [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 20:35, 7 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==So when WAS the last time Chris took a shower?==&lt;br /&gt;
Seriously. What was the exact date of Chris's last shower? Considering how much he's divulged about his life it shouldn't be hard to aquire this information. [[User:Dann Woolf|Dann Woolf]] 13:30, 14 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*It's not as simple as you think. First, Chris is not the type of camera-whore who would record this. Then, He's in [[Homos|straight]] denial about this as you can read it in the article. Personally, my out-of-nowhere guess would be once a week or when the itching would became impossible to endure. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 15:47, 14 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:** If a guy is said to be smelling like rotten watermelon or rotting fish in the sun, he's probably not even showering once a MONTH. Has anybody actually ASKED him? [[User:Dann Woolf|Dann Woolf]] 15:31, 16 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:***Do you think he would listen? Chris had learned over the years that making over-the-top claims and giving assurances of all sorts would allow him to avoid doing any action. So, if we ask him, be sure that he will repeat that he showers daily even if flies drop dead around him due to the stench. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:32, 16 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:****I've been brushing up on my psychology and according to Professor Jean M. Twenge of San Diego University in her book &amp;quot;The Narcissism Epidemic&amp;quot; It illustrates that Narcissists are extremely fragile to criticism and with his autism and child like personality it would be no surprise if chris chan has spent several months/days without showering (just look at that brownish crust on his neck) And I imagine that even if he does he probably doesn't shower thoroughly enough to get rid of his...err aroma.--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 18:01, 16 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Is he in danger of developing diabetes?==&lt;br /&gt;
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Its just speculation on my part but with a 60 ounces of coke a day habit and whatever other high sugar foods he is eating combined with his obesity as well as the possible hypertension make me wonder if he is at risk. [[User:Shawths|Shawths]]&lt;br /&gt;
* It's probably very possible. I mean, the sugar content in McDonald's is high, and in even a 330ml can of Coke (11fl oz. approx.) there is about 60% of an adult's daily sugar allowance.. Maybe if we try and get information from him that we can cross-reference to a list of diabetes symptoms, such as exceptional thirst, dry mouth and frequent urination. [[User_talk:Rubidium|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font size=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;37&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rubidium|&amp;lt;font size=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''Rb'''&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[Special:Contributions/Rubidium|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font size=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;85.468&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 17:21, 21 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
** Could I maybe send him a letter leading him on to list any of these symptoms in operation Mailbag?[[User:Shawths|Shawths]]&lt;br /&gt;
*** Chris is at high risk for pretty much everything that obesity can cause.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:46, 26 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**** Chris is at a higher risk for everything he ignores. Right now, I still think he's on a higher risk of suffering a bad case of staph infection than anything else. He got no notion of hygiene, his immune system is crushed by his lifestyle and he's living in a dump. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 07:31, 26 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*****Forget staph; he's at risk for freaking leprosy.  [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 08:37, 26 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*It wouldn't be surprising if he had diabetes already. Have you seen his complexion? Early age spots are a possible sign of diabetes and that combined with the fact that he gets tired easily makes me believe that he might already have diabetes. PS I'm a newfag with wikis so I hope this works.&lt;br /&gt;
** Protip. Sign your comments by putting &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; at the end of your comment, so we all know you are AFK4Life. [[User_talk:Rubidium|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font size=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;37&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rubidium|&amp;lt;font size=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''Rb'''&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[Special:Contributions/Rubidium|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font size=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;85.468&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 09:34, 26 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*** The reason I suggested a letter was so that we could get a confirmation about the liklyhood of him having diabetes. Although it is probably true.  [[User:Shawths|Shawths]] 10:25, 26 Febuary 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
****This will fail in two distinctive ways; not only he barely take notice of the unpleasant letters in the mailbags but he's also certain that he's the living example of what a healthy man looks like. This being said, I will take great pleasure in knowing he would have to stab himself with a syringe again and again due to a disease caused by his fat ass. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:10, 26 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
***** However, considering that Chris is more interested in spending his tugboat money on video games and sex toys, it's more likely that he will fall into a diabetic coma because he didn't want to spend the money on urgent medical supplies. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 17:19, 26 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
****** I will have to disagree with you on this. I am ready to bet that the moment Chris will need insulin or any other medication, not only the said medication will be brought to him freely by the glorious state of Virginia but he will also be followed by a social worker. We have to include the fact that Chris took medication before. In the [[Autism papers]], it is mentioned that he took paxil for four years. So, yes, he can follow a regiment of drugs. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 21:26, 14 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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That's another thing that bothers me--why was he on Paxil?  I hear that it treats two things--depression and excessive urination.  Either way I want to know what prompted it.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:34, 14 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Interestingly enough, paxil has been known in some paitents to cause outbursts of anger: http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=19&amp;amp;m=203440&lt;br /&gt;
:It is mainly prescribed to treat depression, but is also occasionally prescribed to individuals who complain of extreme stress. It is possible that the lumberjack and snorlax got Chris a prescription thinking it would mellow him out, or it may be that Chris has been very depressed and the paxil was specifically prescribed to him for his depression. Considering his goals in life, and his chances of achieving them, it is quite likely (even with Chris's limited mental foresight) that he has realized that his goals are almost certainly unachievable, and thus he is depressed. [[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 18:25, 14 June 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::It is interesting to see when Chris started taking paxil. If we refer ourselves to the Autism paper (Circa 2004), it tells us that the ManChild was on that medication for the last 4 years. This bring us to the end of his High-School years and his enrolment at the PVCC. There's a possibility that it was suggested to Chris's parents to put him on meds to help him with the transition from one setting to another. After all, autistics love patterns and the loss of those patterns can cause stress and bouts of 'Tard-Rage. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 02:21, 15 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Inability to Recognize Faces ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it should be mentioned that the inability to recognize faces is a very common trait of Autism. The fact that Chris cannot recognize faces confirmed (to me) that he definitely has a form of autism before those psychiatric evaluations were released. &lt;br /&gt;
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Also, a lack of smell-sensory is another symptom of autism. This is definitely far from the only reason that Chris never showers, and not all Autistic people lack a sense of smell, but still I thought I should mention it.(Wiki newfag here; I hope this works.) --[[User:Windyshoot|Windyshoot]] 09:02, 17 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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At first,I read inability to recognize feces. LOL! --[[User:Kawaiidesubakachan|Kawaiidesubakachan]] 02:14, 27 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Im autistic and i remember faces more than names.[[user:MrMaXimo|MrMaXimo]] 12:45, 28 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Chris's obesity ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In response to to how much weight chris gained during his apearence in the pimp my ride video, someone in the talk section asked for a comparison between chris's breast and those of a big chested woman. after combining the image below i noticed that chris has gained so much weight that his man-boobs have become massive. what i'm trying to ask is if the image could be included in the chris and obesity section. [[User:MoarLurk]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I made that image with pretty much that purpose. Also if you notice, chris's boobs are bigger.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 22:05, 14 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I suspect that Chris has a hormonal imbalance. Even with his corpulent physique, his breasts are disproportionately large, and his nipples look like pepperonis. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 22:07, 14 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That's exactly what he has. This is typical of gynecomastia. [[User:Hamsterjelly|Hamsterjelly]] 06:24, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The though of Chris's nipples...cannot unsee.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 22:14, 14 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::We have pictures of them, remember? We've seen the man screwing a blow-up doll. How can his nipples be close to that disturbance? --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 16:51, 15 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Anything involving the naked body of that man is of the deepest bowels of hell or Rhyel.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 17:08, 15 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hormonal imbalance ==&lt;br /&gt;
i've beggining to suspect that chris suffers from hormonal imbalance,  it would explain his  high pitched voice and the overgrown mantits and acne at that age. Poor hygiene can explian the acne a bit. Obesity can explain the mantits,  but to Chris's level,  it has to be the hormones, I think he  has an exess of strogen in his system.--[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 04:46, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*Disclaimer: I am not a doctor. ... but it could be testosterone. My understanding is that the human body can only tolerate so much testosterone; any excess is converted into estrogen (or oestrogen). Given that in addition to his [[Collosal|Collosal Chris Chan]] manboobs Chris appears to display uncontrollable bouts of anger (&amp;quot;Shouting loud enough to wake the dead&amp;quot; over a slightly overpriced cup of coffee), has great difficulty keeping his hands [[Kacey|off]] [[Megan|women]], constantly obsesses about sex and generally acts like a horny 16 year old when he's 28 seems to suggest that, perhaps, he has a large amount of testosterone in his system and the excess is being turned into estrogen. An outside observer with absolutely no idea who Chris is might even suggest steroid abuse (before anyone jumps in with 'but Chris is weak!', steroids don't make you STRONG, they're just basically horse urine which is huge amounts of testosterone. It bulks you up a great deal, but if you take steroids and don't work out, you get really fat and get huge mantits). It's times like these I wish the mailbags were still going, so we could ask Chris directly if he was taking steroids. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 05:01, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::*I'm sure there may be a hormonal imbalance, but I think the cause may well be Klinefelter's. Chris-Chan fits a fair amount of the general symptoms, and I'm surprised it hasn't been further investigated. Small/malformed penis and testicles, slowly developing and altogether missing male secondary sex characteristics, the extremely high voice, the suggestions of gender confusion and sexual orientation difficulties, not to mention the prominent breasts. Those are developed much more than one would expect for someone at his fitness level, despite how low it is. Of course, since nobody's bothering to run fertility tests on him, confirmation on such a thing would be VERY difficult. But at this point, XXY makes more sense to me than anything.[[User:Zekedms|Zekedms]] 03:56, 20 February 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::No. He grows facial hair easily, and the associated hypogonadism means lower decreased testicular hormone/endocrine function, not smaller genitals. His obesity and autism explain pretty much all of his symptoms. Chris's voice isn't especially high, except when he freaks out. [[User:Eamoo|Eamoo]] 12:44, 20 February 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::No, it isn’t Klinefelter's. It’s already been addressed in detail in one of the speculation topics, so to spare a TLDR I’ll be brief. Not only is there no evidence pointing to it, but his phenotype is incompatible with the condition. His integumentary problems: his acne &amp;amp; bad complexion, androgenic baldness, fat distribution pattern(fat in the gut first is a testosterone induced thing), shows that his body has no shortage of testosterone. Since he has that much fat, some of it is bound to go and cause manboobs, that’s pretty much like any guy will get when they cross over to obesity.&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(The fat means more horomones &amp;amp; some of the exess T will be converted to estrogen, but obviously not enough to overpower the testosterone turned DHT's effect on his skin&amp;amp; hair&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;)  Also since the latest molecular research into autism shows that estrogen acts as a promoter for several genes that are linked to protecting against autism while testosterone methilates them, it’s unlikely Chris has ever been estrogen dominant, and it’s likely he was exposed to too much testosterone in utero. It’s not &amp;lt;del&amp;gt;Lupus&amp;lt;/del&amp;gt; Klinefelter's.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 21:25, 21 February 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Wes Iseli==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article mentioned an non-sourced comment from Wes Iseli about Chris's funk during his PVCC days. I know it's not an official statement, but does any one know where or who that came from? ---[[User:ConCat|ConCat]] 17:17, 28 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== WeighIn ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Should we add the new information about his weight we learned from this new video? We should also probably add something about why he must weigh 216 despite having the body we all see. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 16:31, 26 October 2010 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Hey we should add a &amp;quot;gallery of fatness&amp;quot; to the bottom of the page with pictures of his horrible fatness.--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 19:01, 23 July 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
*That's not such a bad idea, I suppose. What would be best is if you could make them show how much he has ballooned over the years. [[User:Dormiebasne|Dormiebasne]] 21:20, 23 July 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
**That is an even better idea--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 23:09, 23 July 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Damn, I wish he was one of those people who took a photo of himself once a day. Then we could make an animation. [[User:Dann Woolf|Dann Woolf]] 15:33, 16 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Moved the gallery of hair. --[[User:Garfield|Garfield]] 03:14, 25 July 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Cool!--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 16:50, 29 July 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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In Kacey's recollection of her date with Chris, she mentioned how he would sweat profusely just by walking. Where in the article should I add that? --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 21:17, 14 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Need to do ==&lt;br /&gt;
*Probably move the hair to Sonichu Girls or just make a new page for it, I think it warrants its own page because it also demonstrates MEXICAN SONICHU and poor Spanish&lt;br /&gt;
*Also, incorporate chris's coke habits (the drink) http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?n2bjtmemyyj [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 19:33, 29 September 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Chris and Strength? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris seems to suffer form delusions that he's really strong and a good fighter. I'd go into more depth except that I'm not really strong nor a good fighter. All I know is that he's worse at both than me. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 06:26, 13 October 2009 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weird section ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The article currently says: &amp;quot;''Chris has probably never had any regular exercise since leaving high school, and the lack of physical activity has contributed to his already ballooning shape. It has also left his skin a frightening white that starkly contrasts to the dark background of his room while making videos.''&amp;quot; Now, I'm not a medical professional or anything, but I'm pretty sure exercise level doesn't have much to do with skin color.  The second sentence should probably be moved or at least clarified.&lt;br /&gt;
*No, I think that's more or less sun. Trust me, if you can get him to push carts during the summer at some Wal-Mart or whatever, his skin'll look a million times better. Of course, we're talking about Chris, who thinks item stockers in retail are &amp;quot;heavyweights&amp;quot;.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 20:24, 7 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*I have edited it as such:''&amp;quot;Since he barely leave his house and focus his time on playing videogames, his lack of exposure to the sunlight left his skin a frightening white that starkly contrasts to the dark background of his room while making videos.&amp;quot;'' I hope it will please Mr. Anonymous... [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 20:35, 7 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==So when WAS the last time Chris took a shower?==&lt;br /&gt;
Seriously. What was the exact date of Chris's last shower? Considering how much he's divulged about his life it shouldn't be hard to aquire this information. [[User:Dann Woolf|Dann Woolf]] 13:30, 14 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*It's not as simple as you think. First, Chris is not the type of camera-whore who would record this. Then, He's in [[Homos|straight]] denial about this as you can read it in the article. Personally, my out-of-nowhere guess would be once a week or when the itching would became impossible to endure. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 15:47, 14 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:** If a guy is said to be smelling like rotten watermelon or rotting fish in the sun, he's probably not even showering once a MONTH. Has anybody actually ASKED him? [[User:Dann Woolf|Dann Woolf]] 15:31, 16 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:***Do you think he would listen? Chris had learned over the years that making over-the-top claims and giving assurances of all sorts would allow him to avoid doing any action. So, if we ask him, be sure that he will repeat that he showers daily even if flies drop dead around him due to the stench. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:32, 16 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:****I've been brushing up on my psychology and according to Professor Jean M. Twenge of San Diego University in her book &amp;quot;The Narcissism Epidemic&amp;quot; It illustrates that Narcissists are extremely fragile to criticism and with his autism and child like personality it would be no surprise if chris chan has spent several months/days without showering (just look at that brownish crust on his neck) And I imagine that even if he does he probably doesn't shower thoroughly enough to get rid of his...err aroma.--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 18:01, 16 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Is he in danger of developing diabetes?==&lt;br /&gt;
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Its just speculation on my part but with a 60 ounces of coke a day habit and whatever other high sugar foods he is eating combined with his obesity as well as the possible hypertension make me wonder if he is at risk. [[User:Shawths|Shawths]]&lt;br /&gt;
* It's probably very possible. I mean, the sugar content in McDonald's is high, and in even a 330ml can of Coke (11fl oz. approx.) there is about 60% of an adult's daily sugar allowance.. Maybe if we try and get information from him that we can cross-reference to a list of diabetes symptoms, such as exceptional thirst, dry mouth and frequent urination. [[User_talk:Rubidium|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font size=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;37&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rubidium|&amp;lt;font size=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''Rb'''&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[Special:Contributions/Rubidium|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font size=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;85.468&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 17:21, 21 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
** Could I maybe send him a letter leading him on to list any of these symptoms in operation Mailbag?[[User:Shawths|Shawths]]&lt;br /&gt;
*** Chris is at high risk for pretty much everything that obesity can cause.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:46, 26 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**** Chris is at a higher risk for everything he ignores. Right now, I still think he's on a higher risk of suffering a bad case of staph infection than anything else. He got no notion of hygiene, his immune system is crushed by his lifestyle and he's living in a dump. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 07:31, 26 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*****Forget staph; he's at risk for freaking leprosy.  [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 08:37, 26 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*It wouldn't be surprising if he had diabetes already. Have you seen his complexion? Early age spots are a possible sign of diabetes and that combined with the fact that he gets tired easily makes me believe that he might already have diabetes. PS I'm a newfag with wikis so I hope this works.&lt;br /&gt;
** Protip. Sign your comments by putting &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; at the end of your comment, so we all know you are AFK4Life. [[User_talk:Rubidium|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font size=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;37&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rubidium|&amp;lt;font size=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''Rb'''&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[Special:Contributions/Rubidium|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font size=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;85.468&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 09:34, 26 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*** The reason I suggested a letter was so that we could get a confirmation about the liklyhood of him having diabetes. Although it is probably true.  [[User:Shawths|Shawths]] 10:25, 26 Febuary 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
****This will fail in two distinctive ways; not only he barely take notice of the unpleasant letters in the mailbags but he's also certain that he's the living example of what a healthy man looks like. This being said, I will take great pleasure in knowing he would have to stab himself with a syringe again and again due to a disease caused by his fat ass. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:10, 26 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
***** However, considering that Chris is more interested in spending his tugboat money on video games and sex toys, it's more likely that he will fall into a diabetic coma because he didn't want to spend the money on urgent medical supplies. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 17:19, 26 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
****** I will have to disagree with you on this. I am ready to bet that the moment Chris will need insulin or any other medication, not only the said medication will be brought to him freely by the glorious state of Virginia but he will also be followed by a social worker. We have to include the fact that Chris took medication before. In the [[Autism papers]], it is mentioned that he took paxil for four years. So, yes, he can follow a regiment of drugs. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 21:26, 14 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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That's another thing that bothers me--why was he on Paxil?  I hear that it treats two things--depression and excessive urination.  Either way I want to know what prompted it.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:34, 14 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Interestingly enough, paxil has been known in some paitents to cause outbursts of anger: http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=19&amp;amp;m=203440&lt;br /&gt;
:It is mainly prescribed to treat depression, but is also occasionally prescribed to individuals who complain of extreme stress. It is possible that the lumberjack and snorlax got Chris a prescription thinking it would mellow him out, or it may be that Chris has been very depressed and the paxil was specifically prescribed to him for his depression. Considering his goals in life, and his chances of achieving them, it is quite likely (even with Chris's limited mental foresight) that he has realized that his goals are almost certainly unachievable, and thus he is depressed. [[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 18:25, 14 June 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::It is interesting to see when Chris started taking paxil. If we refer ourselves to the Autism paper (Circa 2004), it tells us that the ManChild was on that medication for the last 4 years. This bring us to the end of his High-School years and his enrolment at the PVCC. There's a possibility that it was suggested to Chris's parents to put him on meds to help him with the transition from one setting to another. After all, autistics love patterns and the loss of those patterns can cause stress and bouts of 'Tard-Rage. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 02:21, 15 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Inability to Recognize Faces ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it should be mentioned that the inability to recognize faces is a very common trait of Autism. The fact that Chris cannot recognize faces confirmed (to me) that he definitely has a form of autism before those psychiatric evaluations were released. &lt;br /&gt;
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Also, a lack of smell-sensory is another symptom of autism. This is definitely far from the only reason that Chris never showers, and not all Autistic people lack a sense of smell, but still I thought I should mention it.(Wiki newfag here; I hope this works.) --[[User:Windyshoot|Windyshoot]] 09:02, 17 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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At first,I read inability to recognize feces. LOL! --[[User:Kawaiidesubakachan|Kawaiidesubakachan]] 02:14, 27 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Im autistic and i remember faces more than names.[[user:MrMaXimo|MrMaXimo]] 12:45, 28 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Chris's obesity ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In response to to how much weight chris gained during his apearence in the pimp my ride video, someone in the talk section asked for a comparison between chris's breast and those of a big chested woman. after combining the image below i noticed that chris has gained so much weight that his man-boobs have become massive. what i'm trying to ask is if the image could be included in the chris and obesity section. [[User:MoarLurk]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I made that image with pretty much that purpose. Also if you notice, chris's boobs are bigger.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 22:05, 14 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I suspect that Chris has a hormonal imbalance. Even with his corpulent physique, his breasts are disproportionately large, and his nipples look like pepperonis. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 22:07, 14 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That's exactly what he has. This is typical of gynecomastia. [[User:Hamsterjelly|Hamsterjelly]] 06:24, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The though of Chris's nipples...cannot unsee.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 22:14, 14 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::We have pictures of them, remember? We've seen the man screwing a blow-up doll. How can his nipples be close to that disturbance? --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 16:51, 15 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Anything involving the naked body of that man is of the deepest bowels of hell or Rhyel.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 17:08, 15 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hormonal imbalance ==&lt;br /&gt;
i've beggining to suspect that chris suffers from hormonal imbalance,  it would explain his  high pitched voice and the overgrown mantits and acne at that age. Poor hygiene can explian the acne a bit. Obesity can explain the mantits,  but to Chris's level,  it has to be the hormones, I think he  has an exess of strogen in his system.--[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 04:46, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*Disclaimer: I am not a doctor. ... but it could be testosterone. My understanding is that the human body can only tolerate so much testosterone; any excess is converted into estrogen (or oestrogen). Given that in addition to his [[Collosal|Collosal Chris Chan]] manboobs Chris appears to display uncontrollable bouts of anger (&amp;quot;Shouting loud enough to wake the dead&amp;quot; over a slightly overpriced cup of coffee), has great difficulty keeping his hands [[Kacey|off]] [[Megan|women]], constantly obsesses about sex and generally acts like a horny 16 year old when he's 28 seems to suggest that, perhaps, he has a large amount of testosterone in his system and the excess is being turned into estrogen. An outside observer with absolutely no idea who Chris is might even suggest steroid abuse (before anyone jumps in with 'but Chris is weak!', steroids don't make you STRONG, they're just basically horse urine which is huge amounts of testosterone. It bulks you up a great deal, but if you take steroids and don't work out, you get really fat and get huge mantits). It's times like these I wish the mailbags were still going, so we could ask Chris directly if he was taking steroids. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 05:01, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::*I'm sure there may be a hormonal imbalance, but I think the cause may well be Klinefelter's. Chris-Chan fits a fair amount of the general symptoms, and I'm surprised it hasn't been further investigated. Small/malformed penis and testicles, slowly developing and altogether missing male secondary sex characteristics, the extremely high voice, the suggestions of gender confusion and sexual orientation difficulties, not to mention the prominent breasts. Those are developed much more than one would expect for someone at his fitness level, despite how low it is. Of course, since nobody's bothering to run fertility tests on him, confirmation on such a thing would be VERY difficult. But at this point, XXY makes more sense to me than anything.[[User:Zekedms|Zekedms]] 03:56, 20 February 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::No. He grows facial hair easily, and the associated hypogonadism means lower decreased testicular hormone/endocrine function, not smaller genitals. His obesity and autism explain pretty much all of his symptoms. Chris's voice isn't especially high, except when he freaks out. [[User:Eamoo|Eamoo]] 12:44, 20 February 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::No, it isn’t Klinefelter's. It’s already been addressed in detail in one of the speculation topics, so to spare a TLDR I’ll be brief. Not only is there no evidence pointing to it, but his phenotype is incompatible with the condition. His integumentary problems: his acne &amp;amp; bad complexion, androgenic baldness, fat distribution pattern(fat in the gut first is a testosterone induced thing), shows that his body has no shortage of testosterone. Since he has that much fat, some of it is bound to go and cause manboobs, that’s pretty much like any guy will get when they cross over to obesity.&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(The fat means more horomones &amp;amp; some of the exess T will be converted to estrogen, but obviously not enough to overpower the androgen's effect on his skin&amp;amp; hair&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;)  Also since the latest molecular research into autism shows that estrogen acts as a promoter for several genes that are linked to protecting against autism while testosterone methilates them, it’s unlikely Chris has ever been estrogen dominant, and it’s likely he was exposed to too much testosterone in utero. It’s not &amp;lt;del&amp;gt;Lupus&amp;lt;/del&amp;gt; Klinefelter's.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 21:25, 21 February 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Wes Iseli==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article mentioned an non-sourced comment from Wes Iseli about Chris's funk during his PVCC days. I know it's not an official statement, but does any one know where or who that came from? ---[[User:ConCat|ConCat]] 17:17, 28 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== WeighIn ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Should we add the new information about his weight we learned from this new video? We should also probably add something about why he must weigh 216 despite having the body we all see. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 16:31, 26 October 2010 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;== Tips ==&lt;br /&gt;
Messages should go on the talk page, bro. I've already moved your post over there. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 23:14, 6 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==We're a lot alike, you and me... ==&lt;br /&gt;
In what way are you not like Chris? Because you seem at least as pathetic as him. I guess plagiarists need to stick together, eh? [[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]]&lt;br /&gt;
::Lets see: Widespread &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;plagiarism&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; artistic borrowing, a lack of artistic unity, a lack of professional quality in works that are presented as such &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(hello vanity publishing/sonichu copyright)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;, self promotion in unrelated places, and a superpowered SI surrounded by &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;boyfriend free girls&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; women to make up for an underwhelming real life... Yeah, it's like I'm reading Sonichu&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;©&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; light. We've even got the same regurgitation of tv lines. - [[User:Kei|Kei]] 12:14, 8 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You're just another faggot who says &amp;quot;I'm better than Chris&amp;quot; to justify their existence while at the same time doing the same stupid bullshit (making comics NO ONE READS) at the same time. Go away. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 11:56, 15 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==i don't like you==&lt;br /&gt;
You're just another faggot who says &amp;quot;I'm better than the people who troll Chris who ARE EVIL PEOPLE so therefore I'm fucking awesome&amp;quot; to justify their existence while at the same time doing stupid bullshit (making comics almost 5 people read) at the same time. Go away. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 01:50, 16 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==sup son==&lt;br /&gt;
Your one of my least favourite members on this board. Your litteraly homosexual, your a furry, your a juggalo, you like fat women, you wanted to fuck your mother, you mother fucker, you like to take it up the ass and suck dick and u brag about it, and u think you are way funnier than you really are. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 11:03, 16 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Why do you hate America's children?==&lt;br /&gt;
Do you ''not'' want kids to eat food that actually has some sort of nutritional value? Are you '''IN FAVOR OF CHILDHOOD OBESITY'''? [[User:Massive Dynamic|Massive Dynamic]] 14:38, 16 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''I don't want Michelle Obama telling me what snacks I may consume'''&lt;br /&gt;
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The bill only applies to public schools, which are federally funded. It's the federal government passing a law that affects a federal institution. Should they not be able to control something in their own organization? It won't affect what snacks get stuck in the beard you meticulously crafted using the Spray tool in MSPaint. &lt;br /&gt;
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And children's programming was always stupid and full of fluff. Why are you watching kiddie shows at your age, anyway? [[User:Massive Dynamic|Massive Dynamic]] 11:24, 17 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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You still didn't answer my question about why you watch so many kids shows in the first place. The 80s stuff, I guess I can understand. It makes you nostalgic for the time when we didn't have ratings and when Z. Cavariccis were popular or whatever. But why, in your late 20s did you just suddenly get into Pokemon and Histeria? Or Kim Possible for that matter. &lt;br /&gt;
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If you had to take care of your kids or nephew or younger siblings and that's what they watched, I could see you getting a little kick out of it. Or if you were a pothead, that's a valid excuse. Potheads eat and watch all kinds of things when they're bored and high. But you're a straitlaced arch-conservative mystery &amp;quot;writer&amp;quot; who doesn't have any kids and judging by your general demeanor and your Chris-Chanian dream of returning to college solely for the cable and the coochie, you won't have any. [[User:Massive Dynamic|Massive Dynamic]] 10:23, 18 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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P.S. Your shitty comic's self-insert protagonist looks like Arthur. Stop watching PBS, son.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Get out of bed!==&lt;br /&gt;
''[walks into Icon's bedroom, making furnace noises through snuffle]'' f-f-f-f-f ''[in a normal voice]'' Get out of bed! Snuffle-uffle-snuffle-uffle-snuffle-uffle-snuffle-uffle... --[[User:Snuffleupagus|Snuffleupagus]] 06:41, 17 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Virginal Plagiarist==&lt;br /&gt;
He also steals ideas, and ain't never got no sex. He did meet a girl once, and she was creeped out by him. He's still stalking her.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]] 10:05, 17 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nice Site-- NOT ==&lt;br /&gt;
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McAfee found a virus the moment I opened your site in a new tab. Now I'm never reading your shit.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 16:20, 17 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==College Relationships==&lt;br /&gt;
What's wrong with sluts? Just because you couldn't fuck a slut? What's you plan? &amp;quot;Hey guys! There's this slut running around, and she totally wants dick, and she's rela easy as long as you aren't a total creep! She'll fuck you and suck the male essence from your cock! WATCH OUT FOR THAT ONE&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd be keeping an eye out for her too. &lt;br /&gt;
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Because I like easy sex. Why do you hate fun? [[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]] 10:36, 18 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
==Re: &amp;quot;Fuzzy Door empire&amp;quot;, Books for college, the “ObamaCable Box”&amp;amp; dorm-brothels==&lt;br /&gt;
There’s a huge difference: they get their work published and they get paid for it. Getting money for writing and vanity publishing with the hope that it will net you money isn't the same thing and I don’t think I’ve ever heard of someone making a consequential amount through the second way. Seriously, you’d be better off if you just took a govt grant and loans&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(I know they happen to be your own [[Greene County Conspiracy| Green County]] and all but...)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; for the sake of finishing school: the networking you’d get from dealing with the staff would in itself help you at publishing more than anything you’re currently doing.  &lt;br /&gt;
And what, I really hope you don’t think college is supposed to be like that.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:32, 18 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hey ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey you, you know, I've been keeping an eye on you. You and me should be friends, you know? We could go places you see. I'm at this forum, PVCC, we need moderators. I say it might be something for you, no? Contact me, or we could maybe talk on Skype. Delicioso, comprendre? [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 16:07, 18 January 2011 (PST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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Messages should go on the talk page, bro. I've already moved your post over there. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 23:14, 6 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==We're a lot alike, you and me... ==&lt;br /&gt;
In what way are you not like Chris? Because you seem at least as pathetic as him. I guess plagiarists need to stick together, eh? [[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]]&lt;br /&gt;
::Lets see: Widespread &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;plagiarism&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; artistic borrowing, a lack of artistic unity, a lack of professional quality in works that are presented as such &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(hello vanity publishing/sonichu copyright)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;, self promotion in unrelated places, and a superpowered SI surrounded by &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;boyfriend free girls&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; women to make up for an underwhelming real life... Yeah, it's like I'm reading Sonichu&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;©&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; light. We've even got the same regurgitation of tv lines. - [[User:Kei|Kei]] 12:14, 8 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You're just another faggot who says &amp;quot;I'm better than Chris&amp;quot; to justify their existence while at the same time doing the same stupid bullshit (making comics NO ONE READS) at the same time. Go away. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 11:56, 15 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==i don't like you==&lt;br /&gt;
You're just another faggot who says &amp;quot;I'm better than the people who troll Chris who ARE EVIL PEOPLE so therefore I'm fucking awesome&amp;quot; to justify their existence while at the same time doing stupid bullshit (making comics almost 5 people read) at the same time. Go away. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 01:50, 16 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==sup son==&lt;br /&gt;
Your one of my least favourite members on this board. Your litteraly homosexual, your a furry, your a juggalo, you like fat women, you wanted to fuck your mother, you mother fucker, you like to take it up the ass and suck dick and u brag about it, and u think you are way funnier than you really are. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 11:03, 16 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Why do you hate America's children?==&lt;br /&gt;
Do you ''not'' want kids to eat food that actually has some sort of nutritional value? Are you '''IN FAVOR OF CHILDHOOD OBESITY'''? [[User:Massive Dynamic|Massive Dynamic]] 14:38, 16 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''I don't want Michelle Obama telling me what snacks I may consume'''&lt;br /&gt;
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The bill only applies to public schools, which are federally funded. It's the federal government passing a law that affects a federal institution. Should they not be able to control something in their own organization? It won't affect what snacks get stuck in the beard you meticulously crafted using the Spray tool in MSPaint. &lt;br /&gt;
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And children's programming was always stupid and full of fluff. Why are you watching kiddie shows at your age, anyway? [[User:Massive Dynamic|Massive Dynamic]] 11:24, 17 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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You still didn't answer my question about why you watch so many kids shows in the first place. The 80s stuff, I guess I can understand. It makes you nostalgic for the time when we didn't have ratings and when Z. Cavariccis were popular or whatever. But why, in your late 20s did you just suddenly get into Pokemon and Histeria? Or Kim Possible for that matter. &lt;br /&gt;
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If you had to take care of your kids or nephew or younger siblings and that's what they watched, I could see you getting a little kick out of it. Or if you were a pothead, that's a valid excuse. Potheads eat and watch all kinds of things when they're bored and high. But you're a straitlaced arch-conservative mystery &amp;quot;writer&amp;quot; who doesn't have any kids and judging by your general demeanor and your Chris-Chanian dream of returning to college solely for the cable and the coochie, you won't have any. [[User:Massive Dynamic|Massive Dynamic]] 10:23, 18 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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P.S. Your shitty comic's self-insert protagonist looks like Arthur. Stop watching PBS, son.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Get out of bed!==&lt;br /&gt;
''[walks into Icon's bedroom, making furnace noises through snuffle]'' f-f-f-f-f ''[in a normal voice]'' Get out of bed! Snuffle-uffle-snuffle-uffle-snuffle-uffle-snuffle-uffle... --[[User:Snuffleupagus|Snuffleupagus]] 06:41, 17 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Virginal Plagiarist==&lt;br /&gt;
He also steals ideas, and ain't never got no sex. He did meet a girl once, and she was creeped out by him. He's still stalking her.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]] 10:05, 17 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nice Site-- NOT ==&lt;br /&gt;
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McAfee found a virus the moment I opened your site in a new tab. Now I'm never reading your shit.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 16:20, 17 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
==College Relationships==&lt;br /&gt;
What's wrong with sluts? Just because you couldn't fuck a slut? What's you plan? &amp;quot;Hey guys! There's this slut running around, and she totally wants dick, and she's rela easy as long as you aren't a total creep! She'll fuck you and suck the male essence from your cock! WATCH OUT FOR THAT ONE&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd be keeping an eye out for her too. &lt;br /&gt;
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Because I like easy sex. Why do you hate fun? [[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]] 10:36, 18 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
==Re: &amp;quot; Fuzzy Door empire&amp;quot; Books for college, the “ObamaCable Box”&amp;amp;  dorm-brothels==&lt;br /&gt;
There’s a huge difference: they get their work published and they get paid for it. Getting money for writing and vanity publishing with the hope that it will net you money aren’t the same thing and I don’t think I’ve ever heard of someone making a consequential amount through the second way. Seriously, you’d be better off if you just took a govt grant and loans for the sake of finishing school; the networking you’d get from dealing with the staff would in itself help you at publishing more than anything you’re currently doing.  &lt;br /&gt;
And what, I really hope you don’t think college is supposed to be like that.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:32, 18 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hey ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey you, you know, I've been keeping an eye on you. You and me should be friends, you know? We could go places you see. I'm at this forum, PVCC, we need moderators. I say it might be something for you, no? Contact me, or we could maybe talk on Skype. Delicioso, comprendre? [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 16:07, 18 January 2011 (PST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Iconoclast&amp;diff=131425</id>
		<title>User talk:The Iconoclast</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Iconoclast&amp;diff=131425"/>
		<updated>2011-01-08T20:14:42Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;In what way are you not like Chris? Because you seem at least as pathetic as him. I guess plagiarists need to stick together, eh? [[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Lets see: Widespread &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;plagiarism&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; artistic borrowing, a lack of artistic unity, a lack of professional quality in works that are presented as such &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(hello vanity publishing/sonichu copyright)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;, self promotion in unrelated places, and a superpowered SI surrounded by &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;boyfriend free girls&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; women to make up for an underwhelming real life... Yeah, it's like I'm reading Sonichu&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;©&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; light. We've even got the same regurgitation of tv lines. - [[User:Kei|Kei]] 12:14, 8 January 2011 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Messages should go on the talk page, bro. I've already moved your post over there. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 23:14, 6 January 2011 (PST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SherwinKing&amp;diff=125413</id>
		<title>User talk:SherwinKing</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SherwinKing&amp;diff=125413"/>
		<updated>2010-11-18T01:01:47Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: /* E-mail */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I sense a troll or a white knight. But... why do I get the hunch this might be Chris himself? --[[User:Miss Noel|Noel Ari Paige]] 06:40, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
*It's got the tardcaps, but I dunno. I doubt Chris would, even in alias, approve of a third-party fan work. My money goes for ShamanKing thinking he's the next Alec.[[User:Torchwood|Torchwood]] 06:43, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Albert Einstein said insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So it could be Chris. I'm sure it's just a would be troll though. -- [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 06:42, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*This guy just recently edited the [[Chris]] page to make it less offensive about Chris, just like when he was GodofthunderGodofwar or whatever he was when he was here. But it wasn't as self-serving; it was changed to say things such as &amp;quot;unfortunately, his childish artwork&amp;quot;, as if the author's intent was to bring pity. I highly doubt Chris could be this clever, but then again, we may not know.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Miss Noel|Noel Ari Paige]] 06:46, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lets just see where this progresses, as long as we get an entertaining saga out of it I am happy. [[User:Sinisterminister|Sinisterminister]] 07:37, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Oh, for fuck's sake, he copied the page and put it on his user page. --[[User:Miss Noel|Noel Ari Paige]] 07:49, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Let me Clear this up for you guys==&lt;br /&gt;
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This guy is not Chris. Chris acts differently. This guy wants us to think he's Chris. He's an attention whore. Wait for him to get banned or something and move on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 08:39, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I AM NOT CHRIS OR A TROLL ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I am not Chris-chan or a troll or trying to be the next Alec. I am just a fan of Sonichu that wants to get his fan website known about.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If this is really a Wiki documenting all about Chris-chan then it should not just relate to things that trolls do to him, but things that fans of his comic have done too.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I do not have a lot of content on my site right now, but when I start uploading my art, as well as my very own comic, I believe that my website will be a very worthy candidate for something to be documented on this Wiki.&lt;br /&gt;
*Sonichu fans don't exist. Obvious newfag is obvious. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 09:55, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Hmm... tard-caps, unwarranted self importance, being a fan of something that has no fanbase... Sounds like a fake account of Chris's to me! Seriously, Sonichu was complete and utter shit, the comic is over, and anybody that claims to like it is completely retarded. --[[User:Miss Noel|Noel Ari Paige]] 10:14, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Yep, none of those traits are obvious or easily emulated at all! This guy isn't acting like Chris, he's acting like what a newfag would think Chris is. This isn't the first time someone has done this, and every fucking time, someone wants to jump on the boat of retardation by claiming it's Chris when it isn't. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 10:17, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
***We can still agree it's all utterly retarded. --[[User:Miss Noel|Noel Ari Paige]] 10:22, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The original article has been deleted. CWCki is not a place to advertise your website. If it gains notoriety, I'm sure we'll hear about it. As creator of the website, there's a [[Wikipedia:WP:COI|Conflict of Interest]] with you writing an article about your own website. Seems like you also put the article's content on your userpage, which is fine as you can basically put whatever you like there. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:10, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I am an honest Sonichu fan ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I will make this clear: I am not a troll, Chris-chan, a &amp;quot;newfag&amp;quot;, or retarded.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Saying that something has no fanbase is always conjecture at most, as there is always a chance of somebody liking it. Also, there are various franchises that no longer run that have fanbases. Personally, I don't like Sonichu for its art or plot or anything, I simply like it because it is a glimpse into someone's mind, and the way they deal with what happens in their life. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For people saying that I am acting like Chris in some way, I am not doing it on purpose. I am also autistic, which may cause similarities in our behaviour or mannerisms.&lt;br /&gt;
*To quote the &amp;quot;[[True and Loyal Fanbase]]&amp;quot; article, &amp;quot;There are no actual Sonichu fans. Literally none... Consider this: If there actually was one, wouldn't we have found out about them by now?&amp;quot; Over the years Sonichu has been known, every &amp;quot;fan&amp;quot; has been a bullshit attention whore. Empiricism prevails here. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 13:21, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Considering how you treat people who admit it, I wouldn't be surprised if every other real Sonichu fan is forced to hide it. I am just trying to be brave and speak my mind and tell people about my site. Chris' work on his Sonichu comics inspired me to do something in my spare time, and I just want to share that something with people on the internet.&lt;br /&gt;
***A) Chris is not mainstream. There's no way he'd be your first exposure to an &amp;quot;inspirational&amp;quot; autistic guy and his work is horribly sub-par. B) Chris is the least inspirational person ever. Stop faking a disability. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 14:13, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
****I am NOT faking a disability. I am aware that Chris is not mainstream, but I have not spent a lot of time on the internet. I was introduced to Sonichu via my older brother, who told me about the comics and thought I'd be interested because I like Sonic and Pokémon. I am aware that Chris' work is sub-par, but the fact that they are sub-par and that he persevered in uploading them up to a certain point is part of what I like about them. [[User:SherwinKing|SherwinKing]] 14:37, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Um, about that&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(if this isn't metatroling and you really are learning disabled)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;... You do know the people here are trolls, so branding yourself a fan and spamming your email and websites is basically daring them to come after you. I'm not saying I'll do anything it doesn't matter to me, but don't be surprised if bored regulars from /cwc/ decide to bandwidth rape your site or flood your email with Trojans; if that isn't what you're trying to provoke you might want to tone back on your trail a bit.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 16:45, 17 November 2010 (PST) &lt;br /&gt;
Please sign your messages using four tildes &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;   --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 14:06, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== E-mail ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You should probably remove the link to your e-mail. With the other information you've revealed, you're just asking to be trolled.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 16:28, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You might not need to warn him, after looking at King's site and posting style it does seem like he's a likely troll: the site has stuff that seems to be there just to provoke cwc anons (&amp;quot;there's nothing you can do about it&amp;quot;), it's likely just attention whoring. His writing fits this as well, it looks like a forced attempt to emulate Chris' weird syntax-grammar combination; autistic or not people don't normally write like that.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 17:00, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SherwinKing&amp;diff=125412</id>
		<title>User talk:SherwinKing</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SherwinKing&amp;diff=125412"/>
		<updated>2010-11-18T01:00:57Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: Fake&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I sense a troll or a white knight. But... why do I get the hunch this might be Chris himself? --[[User:Miss Noel|Noel Ari Paige]] 06:40, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
*It's got the tardcaps, but I dunno. I doubt Chris would, even in alias, approve of a third-party fan work. My money goes for ShamanKing thinking he's the next Alec.[[User:Torchwood|Torchwood]] 06:43, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Albert Einstein said insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So it could be Chris. I'm sure it's just a would be troll though. -- [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 06:42, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*This guy just recently edited the [[Chris]] page to make it less offensive about Chris, just like when he was GodofthunderGodofwar or whatever he was when he was here. But it wasn't as self-serving; it was changed to say things such as &amp;quot;unfortunately, his childish artwork&amp;quot;, as if the author's intent was to bring pity. I highly doubt Chris could be this clever, but then again, we may not know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Miss Noel|Noel Ari Paige]] 06:46, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lets just see where this progresses, as long as we get an entertaining saga out of it I am happy. [[User:Sinisterminister|Sinisterminister]] 07:37, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Oh, for fuck's sake, he copied the page and put it on his user page. --[[User:Miss Noel|Noel Ari Paige]] 07:49, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Let me Clear this up for you guys==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This guy is not Chris. Chris acts differently. This guy wants us to think he's Chris. He's an attention whore. Wait for him to get banned or something and move on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 08:39, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== I AM NOT CHRIS OR A TROLL ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am not Chris-chan or a troll or trying to be the next Alec. I am just a fan of Sonichu that wants to get his fan website known about.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If this is really a Wiki documenting all about Chris-chan then it should not just relate to things that trolls do to him, but things that fans of his comic have done too.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I do not have a lot of content on my site right now, but when I start uploading my art, as well as my very own comic, I believe that my website will be a very worthy candidate for something to be documented on this Wiki.&lt;br /&gt;
*Sonichu fans don't exist. Obvious newfag is obvious. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 09:55, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Hmm... tard-caps, unwarranted self importance, being a fan of something that has no fanbase... Sounds like a fake account of Chris's to me! Seriously, Sonichu was complete and utter shit, the comic is over, and anybody that claims to like it is completely retarded. --[[User:Miss Noel|Noel Ari Paige]] 10:14, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Yep, none of those traits are obvious or easily emulated at all! This guy isn't acting like Chris, he's acting like what a newfag would think Chris is. This isn't the first time someone has done this, and every fucking time, someone wants to jump on the boat of retardation by claiming it's Chris when it isn't. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 10:17, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
***We can still agree it's all utterly retarded. --[[User:Miss Noel|Noel Ari Paige]] 10:22, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The original article has been deleted. CWCki is not a place to advertise your website. If it gains notoriety, I'm sure we'll hear about it. As creator of the website, there's a [[Wikipedia:WP:COI|Conflict of Interest]] with you writing an article about your own website. Seems like you also put the article's content on your userpage, which is fine as you can basically put whatever you like there. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:10, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== I am an honest Sonichu fan ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I will make this clear: I am not a troll, Chris-chan, a &amp;quot;newfag&amp;quot;, or retarded.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Saying that something has no fanbase is always conjecture at most, as there is always a chance of somebody liking it. Also, there are various franchises that no longer run that have fanbases. Personally, I don't like Sonichu for its art or plot or anything, I simply like it because it is a glimpse into someone's mind, and the way they deal with what happens in their life. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For people saying that I am acting like Chris in some way, I am not doing it on purpose. I am also autistic, which may cause similarities in our behaviour or mannerisms.&lt;br /&gt;
*To quote the &amp;quot;[[True and Loyal Fanbase]]&amp;quot; article, &amp;quot;There are no actual Sonichu fans. Literally none... Consider this: If there actually was one, wouldn't we have found out about them by now?&amp;quot; Over the years Sonichu has been known, every &amp;quot;fan&amp;quot; has been a bullshit attention whore. Empiricism prevails here. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 13:21, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Considering how you treat people who admit it, I wouldn't be surprised if every other real Sonichu fan is forced to hide it. I am just trying to be brave and speak my mind and tell people about my site. Chris' work on his Sonichu comics inspired me to do something in my spare time, and I just want to share that something with people on the internet.&lt;br /&gt;
***A) Chris is not mainstream. There's no way he'd be your first exposure to an &amp;quot;inspirational&amp;quot; autistic guy and his work is horribly sub-par. B) Chris is the least inspirational person ever. Stop faking a disability. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 14:13, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
****I am NOT faking a disability. I am aware that Chris is not mainstream, but I have not spent a lot of time on the internet. I was introduced to Sonichu via my older brother, who told me about the comics and thought I'd be interested because I like Sonic and Pokémon. I am aware that Chris' work is sub-par, but the fact that they are sub-par and that he persevered in uploading them up to a certain point is part of what I like about them. [[User:SherwinKing|SherwinKing]] 14:37, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Um, about that&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(if this isn't metatroling and you really are learning disabled)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;... You do know the people here are trolls, so branding yourself a fan and spamming your email and websites is basically daring them to come after you. I'm not saying I'll do anything it doesn't matter to me, but don't be surprised if bored regulars from /cwc/ decide to bandwidth rape your site or flood your email with Trojans; if that isn't what you're trying to provoke you might want to tone back on your trail a bit.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 16:45, 17 November 2010 (PST) &lt;br /&gt;
Please sign your messages using four tildes &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;   --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 14:06, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== E-mail ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You should probably remove the link to your e-mail. With the other information you've revealed, you're just asking to be trolled.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 16:28, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You might not need to warn him, after looking at King's site and posting style it does seem like he's a likely troll: the site has stuff that seems to be there just to provoke cwc anons (&amp;quot;there's nothing you can do about it&amp;quot;), it's likely just attention whoring. His writing fits this as well, it looks like a forced attempt to emulate Chris' weird syntax-grammar combination, autistic or not people don't normally write like that.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 17:00, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SherwinKing&amp;diff=125410</id>
		<title>User talk:SherwinKing</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SherwinKing&amp;diff=125410"/>
		<updated>2010-11-18T00:45:45Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: /* I am an honest Sonichu fan */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I sense a troll or a white knight. But... why do I get the hunch this might be Chris himself? --[[User:Miss Noel|Noel Ari Paige]] 06:40, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
*It's got the tardcaps, but I dunno. I doubt Chris would, even in alias, approve of a third-party fan work. My money goes for ShamanKing thinking he's the next Alec.[[User:Torchwood|Torchwood]] 06:43, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Albert Einstein said insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So it could be Chris. I'm sure it's just a would be troll though. -- [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 06:42, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*This guy just recently edited the [[Chris]] page to make it less offensive about Chris, just like when he was GodofthunderGodofwar or whatever he was when he was here. But it wasn't as self-serving; it was changed to say things such as &amp;quot;unfortunately, his childish artwork&amp;quot;, as if the author's intent was to bring pity. I highly doubt Chris could be this clever, but then again, we may not know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Miss Noel|Noel Ari Paige]] 06:46, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Lets just see where this progresses, as long as we get an entertaining saga out of it I am happy. [[User:Sinisterminister|Sinisterminister]] 07:37, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Oh, for fuck's sake, he copied the page and put it on his user page. --[[User:Miss Noel|Noel Ari Paige]] 07:49, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Let me Clear this up for you guys==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This guy is not Chris. Chris acts differently. This guy wants us to think he's Chris. He's an attention whore. Wait for him to get banned or something and move on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 08:39, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== I AM NOT CHRIS OR A TROLL ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am not Chris-chan or a troll or trying to be the next Alec. I am just a fan of Sonichu that wants to get his fan website known about.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If this is really a Wiki documenting all about Chris-chan then it should not just relate to things that trolls do to him, but things that fans of his comic have done too.&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not have a lot of content on my site right now, but when I start uploading my art, as well as my very own comic, I believe that my website will be a very worthy candidate for something to be documented on this Wiki.&lt;br /&gt;
*Sonichu fans don't exist. Obvious newfag is obvious. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 09:55, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Hmm... tard-caps, unwarranted self importance, being a fan of something that has no fanbase... Sounds like a fake account of Chris's to me! Seriously, Sonichu was complete and utter shit, the comic is over, and anybody that claims to like it is completely retarded. --[[User:Miss Noel|Noel Ari Paige]] 10:14, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Yep, none of those traits are obvious or easily emulated at all! This guy isn't acting like Chris, he's acting like what a newfag would think Chris is. This isn't the first time someone has done this, and every fucking time, someone wants to jump on the boat of retardation by claiming it's Chris when it isn't. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 10:17, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
***We can still agree it's all utterly retarded. --[[User:Miss Noel|Noel Ari Paige]] 10:22, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The original article has been deleted. CWCki is not a place to advertise your website. If it gains notoriety, I'm sure we'll hear about it. As creator of the website, there's a [[Wikipedia:WP:COI|Conflict of Interest]] with you writing an article about your own website. Seems like you also put the article's content on your userpage, which is fine as you can basically put whatever you like there. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:10, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I am an honest Sonichu fan ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I will make this clear: I am not a troll, Chris-chan, a &amp;quot;newfag&amp;quot;, or retarded.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Saying that something has no fanbase is always conjecture at most, as there is always a chance of somebody liking it. Also, there are various franchises that no longer run that have fanbases. Personally, I don't like Sonichu for its art or plot or anything, I simply like it because it is a glimpse into someone's mind, and the way they deal with what happens in their life. &lt;br /&gt;
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For people saying that I am acting like Chris in some way, I am not doing it on purpose. I am also autistic, which may cause similarities in our behaviour or mannerisms.&lt;br /&gt;
*To quote the &amp;quot;[[True and Loyal Fanbase]]&amp;quot; article, &amp;quot;There are no actual Sonichu fans. Literally none... Consider this: If there actually was one, wouldn't we have found out about them by now?&amp;quot; Over the years Sonichu has been known, every &amp;quot;fan&amp;quot; has been a bullshit attention whore. Empiricism prevails here. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 13:21, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Considering how you treat people who admit it, I wouldn't be surprised if every other real Sonichu fan is forced to hide it. I am just trying to be brave and speak my mind and tell people about my site. Chris' work on his Sonichu comics inspired me to do something in my spare time, and I just want to share that something with people on the internet.&lt;br /&gt;
***A) Chris is not mainstream. There's no way he'd be your first exposure to an &amp;quot;inspirational&amp;quot; autistic guy and his work is horribly sub-par. B) Chris is the least inspirational person ever. Stop faking a disability. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 14:13, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
****I am NOT faking a disability. I am aware that Chris is not mainstream, but I have not spent a lot of time on the internet. I was introduced to Sonichu via my older brother, who told me about the comics and thought I'd be interested because I like Sonic and Pokémon. I am aware that Chris' work is sub-par, but the fact that they are sub-par and that he persevered in uploading them up to a certain point is part of what I like about them. [[User:SherwinKing|SherwinKing]] 14:37, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Um, about that&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(if this isn't metatroling and you really are learning disabled)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;... You do know the people here are trolls, so branding yourself a fan and spamming your email and websites is basically daring them to come after you. I'm not saying I'll do anything it doesn't matter to me, but don't be surprised if bored regulars from /cwc/ decide to bandwidth rape your site or flood your email with Trojans; if that isn't what you're trying to provoke you might want to tone back on your trail a bit.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 16:45, 17 November 2010 (PST) &lt;br /&gt;
Please sign your messages using four tildes &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;   --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 14:06, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== E-mail ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You should probably remove the link to your e-mail. With the other information you've revealed, you're just asking to be trolled.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 16:28, 17 November 2010 (PST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=CWC_Address_to_Unilever_About_AXE&amp;diff=124590</id>
		<title>CWC Address to Unilever About AXE</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=CWC_Address_to_Unilever_About_AXE&amp;diff=124590"/>
		<updated>2010-11-12T02:27:39Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: Youtube having taken down one of his videos bc bigotry, and having counted as one of the strikes that led to that particular account's suspension is probably relevant.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''CWC Address to Unilever About AXE''' is a video made when [[Chris]] learned that [[Axe|AXE]], the line of men's hygiene products (also known as LYNX by Eurofags and Britfags alike), is popular among [[homos|gay men]]. This threatened to shatter his entire worldview, since the marketing campaign for AXE revolves around a crude promise that hot women will be all over anyone slathered in the stuff, and he takes this completely at face value. Apparently, he didn't even realize how sexist AXE's ads were until Wikipedia told him.&lt;br /&gt;
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Outraged, Chris posted no fewer than two videos reasserting that he is completely straight and that AXE says right on the label that it is chemically formulated to attract women and only women, although he himself gets confused on this point several times. By now, Chris seems to actually realize that it is wrong to simply demand that AXE's parent company, Unilever, ban sale of their products to homosexuals, but he has no problem angrily telling all gay people everywhere &amp;quot;Stay Off Our AXE, you Homos!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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In Part II of the video, Chris reads a letter he had hand-written to Unilever demanding a clearer instructions on the label about the intended medical use of AXE products. The second half was originally removed by YouTube (when it was a separate video) due to a violation, probably because someone complained about its encouragement of homophobic action.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Video==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Tardrage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Infobox/video&lt;br /&gt;
| name           = CWC Address to Unilever About AXE&lt;br /&gt;
| image          = {{#ev:youtube|uKQctHJ71hA}}&lt;br /&gt;
| stardate       = 2 May 2009&lt;br /&gt;
| style          = {{Reason|text}}&lt;br /&gt;
| subject        = {{Homos|text}}&lt;br /&gt;
| shirt          = {{CreepyRobe|text}}&lt;br /&gt;
| previous       = [[For My Sweetest Ivy]]&lt;br /&gt;
| next           = [[MEOW]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transcript of Part 1===&lt;br /&gt;
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Good day, I wish to, uh, make an announcement, uh, upon the side note, uh, aside from my usual work blagh would like to, uh, blagh make a claim, uh, make it obvious of to the creators of, uh, my favorite br- one of my favorite brand of, uh, body spray: AXE. [Presents AXE spray] Apparently it ha- it has come to my attention that, uh, bunch of, uh, people of the, uh, wrong orientation are, uh, using the, uh, AXE brand, ah, by which I mean particularly the, uh, homosexuals. &lt;br /&gt;
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Eh eweh thusly a stereotype has been, uh, m- has been made if you, uh, if, has been made apparently, uh, has been made apparently '''‘you be gay if you wore AXE.’''' That’s so stupid it’s not I mean it’s not true I mean I’m straight and I have been using AXE for years. [Presents AXE again] I’m a proud sub- I’m a proud user of AXE ‘cos originally as it was originally intended for and I quote: [Reading label] “Effective deodorant protection designed to seduce the ladies” and then later, uh, when they expanded to, uh, the, uh, shower gel they continued with that in saying, uh, “ah kee—dr—kee—nahh let’s see. Hydrates your skin leavin’ it so pure that she’ll th—that ''she-ll'' think ''she’s'' the first one to touch it,” and then later again in, uh, shampoo it says here [Reading label] “Get girl approved hair. Wash, attract, repeat.”&lt;br /&gt;
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Even though, uh, the comments, the, uh, comments, uh, sound, uh, sexist, uh, as I have learned, uh, on, uh, on their page on Wikipedia [gasp] I still feel that, uh, I have been at, uh, I still feel that, uh, is, uh, a big, uh, a big misuse and complete immoral act that the homosexuals take use of our of the AXE brand which is prefer- which is dimensionally and originally oriented towards the straight people. I mean men attract ladies. It means they’re straight. They want to attract the ladies they’re straight. Please, okay, that didn’t come out right but my point is anyway, uh, AXE is more straight is more meant for straight people: straight men who wish to attract the straight, nyell, the ladies. &lt;br /&gt;
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The straight men who wish to attract the ladies and I have been the proud us—prow user of AXE throughout the many bre—throughout the many, uh, variations, ehmore to come and more out there to [stuttering] out there to market and I’m sure, other than the body spray, the ehshower gel and the shampoo. In any case, AXE was adridgionally meant for, and should remain, only for the straight men who wish to attract the women. It is not meant for a homosexual dude to attract another homosexual dude. Ahem. Ticks me off. It really does. &lt;br /&gt;
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So I hope that, uh, the aff—that the, uh, Unilever the company that creates the AXE products, uh, sees this, uh, video on the YouTube and also, uh, would like also, uh, I would like t- to, uh, well I’d be say— I'd be, uh, I would be sound like, uh, some kind of bad person if I tell 'em to not sell to the homosexuals but I wa—but it should be more obvious from the package that it is meant for straight people. Y'know and also I would like to make the following statement to all homosexuals who dare use it. '''You homosexuals, stay off of our AXE!''' &lt;br /&gt;
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Peace out.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transcript of Part 2===&lt;br /&gt;
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I wish to, uh, take a moment right now to, uh, read a letter I have just hand-written for the, uh, Unilever company about the, uh, issue at hand with AXE. I read this out loud because I currently cannot find the snail mail address, but when I do I will mail it off directly. But I re—but I read it now for hope that they will at least be able to get the—get the understanding and the gist of my, uh, of my proposition and hopefully do something about it and will not blow me off because of an opinion.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hmmm. Anyway, to the Unilever company who creates, uh, AXE body spray, shower gel, shampoo, and all of that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Dear Sir or Madam,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I, Christian Weston Chandler, have been a loyal user of AXE body spray for years now, and I have been enjoying the scent as I look forward to it making me smell better to attract (and keep one of) women to be my sweetheart. I have been sussessful with being enjoyed by my sweetheart—[''looks up to camera''] my sweetest [[Ivy]]. [''continues'']—who enjoys my pleasant presence and company with her.  &lt;br /&gt;
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I write the letter today, with concern of hearing that the '''ho-mo-sess-u-al pop-u-la-tion''' wear the AXE body spray as often as or greater than the straight people. Like myself. For the longest time, AXE has been advertised and meant for STRAIGHT men to attract WOMEN. It was certainly NOT meant to attract... '''other dudes'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like—I would ask to ban sale of—and use of the product from the homos, ''but that would be [[Chris|retarded]]''. Instead I respectfully and humbly request that on the package a statement li—such as  &amp;quot;DESIGNED ONLY FOR STRAIGHT ORIENTED MEN&amp;quot; or something strongly similar. Please make this so, and please do not try to blow me off for having an opinion about the product. Or having an opinion about the homosexuals. Because I do not care much about them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sincerely,&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Christian Weston Chandler&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Proud Straight Male AXE User&lt;br /&gt;
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Peace.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fan videos==&lt;br /&gt;
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| name           = CWC the Volcano Does Not Approve of Homosexuals Using AXE&lt;br /&gt;
| video          = {{#ev:youtube|3RxTycDxwqY}}&lt;br /&gt;
| Stardate       = 09 September 2009&lt;br /&gt;
| Maker          = [http://www.youtube.com/user/manwithoutabody manwithoutabody]&lt;br /&gt;
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| Video Type     = YouTube Poop&lt;br /&gt;
| Other Info     =    &lt;br /&gt;
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{{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[For My Sweetest Ivy]]|nextlink=[[MEOW]]|}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Homos]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=CWC_with_Bible_-_Leviticus&amp;diff=124589</id>
		<title>CWC with Bible - Leviticus</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=CWC_with_Bible_-_Leviticus&amp;diff=124589"/>
		<updated>2010-11-12T02:22:24Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: RV, Probably relevant, he did cite Family Guy as the sauce in the mailbag.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{quote|So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone....| John 8:7, a Bible verse Chris seemed to miss}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Judge not, that ye be not judged.| Matthew 7:1, another verse Chris seemed to miss}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;'''CWC with Bible - Leviticus'''&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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On March 8, [[Chris]] watched an episode of ''[[Family Guy]]'' (&amp;quot;Family Gay&amp;quot;), in which Peter Griffin becomes [[homos]]exual, and Stewie cites the Bible verse Leviticus 18:22 in opposition of this development. The joke, of course (aside from this coming from a closet case like Stewie) is that this scripture is frequently cited by opponents of homosexuality, even by people who don't exactly sit around reading the Bible, let alone Leviticus.&lt;br /&gt;
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Leviticus 18 concerns God speaking to Moses, relaying a message to the Israelites forbidding various things, including [[Crystal|incest]], [[That Goatee WILL Grow Back|shaving]], [[Fanta|unclean]] [[McDonald's|foods]], [[Chris and sex#Bestiality|bestiality]], [[Sonichu|animal hybrids]], [[Chris and fashion|blended clothing]], and male homosexuality. The single verse concerning homosexuality has been [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviticus_18 thoroughly debated], and it appears Chris has doomed his fan base to engage in another round of the same tired arguments. Although Chris feels this verse is EXTREMELY important, he feels no need to [[Chris and religion|apply the rest of the bible to himself]].&lt;br /&gt;
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In other developments, Chris is hard at work on a new [[Sonichu medallion]], and he publicly announces that he is no longer focusing the Internet as a front in his [[Love Quest]]. Instead, he has begun using a novelty book written by a nine-year-old to help him talk to girls in person.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Video==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Infobox/video&lt;br /&gt;
| name           = CWC with Bible - Leviticus&lt;br /&gt;
| image          = {{#ev:youtube|Fc2nDqoH-Zk}}&lt;br /&gt;
| Stardate       = 10 [[March 2009]]&lt;br /&gt;
| Maker          = [[Chris|Christian Weston Chandler]]&lt;br /&gt;
| Subject Matter = [[Image:homosn.png]] Homos&lt;br /&gt;
| Shirt          = [[Image:Redyellowstripeshirt.png]] Red/yellow striped shirt&lt;br /&gt;
| previous       = [[Captain's_Log,_Stardate_March_4th,_2009#Epilogue|CWC Calls Out Max]]&lt;br /&gt;
| next           = [[CWC Callout for Miss Emily and Stephanie#Watch|CWC Callout for Miss Emily and Stephanie]]&lt;br /&gt;
}} &lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|…I ''stand'' behind the truths of the Holy God and Lord.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transcript===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Captain's Log]], Stardate: March… 9th, 2009.&lt;br /&gt;
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I am here just to, uh, remind everybody I am wearing my ring. And I want everybody to know that when I am wearing my ring, I am being most honest and upfront, just like I did when I wore my medallion. And incidentally, I'm working on another one. Hopefully, I'll have it coated in metal.&lt;br /&gt;
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But also, on another note, I would like to, uh, state an obvious fact that has been revealed in the latest episode of ''[[Family Guy]]'', and backs me up on the f—on the fact that… [[homos|ho-mo-sex-u-al-i-ty-and-gay-ness]] is just plain wrong. And Stewie has quoted that—the Bible verse that has just—that basically says it in a nutshell. Leviticus: chapter 18, verse 22:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;“Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Leviticus 18:22 (New International Version)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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And to go on further, among the first number of verses: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;“The Lord said to Boses, ‘Speak to the Israelites and say to them: “I am the Lord your God. You must ''not'' do as they do in Egypt, where you used to live, and you must… not do as they do in the land of Canaan, where I am bringing you. Do not follow their practices. You must obey my laws and be careful to follow my decrees. I am the Lord your God. Keep my decrees and laws, for the man who obeys them and will live by them. I am the Lord.”’”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Leviticus 18:1-5 (New International Version)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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And majority of the laws is basically do not sleep with, uh, your relati—with your ''close'' relatives or the, uh, relation of those relatives. And, uh, because in the end, it just described here, uh... from, uh, 25, and so on.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;“Even the land was defiled…”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Leviticus 18:25 (New International Version)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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…among such things…&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;“…so, I punished it for its sin, and the land vomited out its inhabitants. But you must keep my decrees and my laws. The native-born and the aliens living among you must not do any of these detestable things…”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Leviticus 18:25-27 (New International Version)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Especially sleeping with a man as you would a woman... you homos.&lt;br /&gt;
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Now, where was I? Oh, yeah...&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;“…for all these things were done by the people who lived in the land before you, and the land became defiled. And if you defile the land, it will vomit you out as it vomited out the nations that were before you. Everyone who does any of these detestable things… such persons must be cut off from their people. Keep my requirements, and do not follow any of the detestable customs that were practiced before you… came and- before you came, and do not defile yourselves with them. I am the Lord your God.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Leviticus 18:27-30 (New International Version)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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This was chapter 18 of Leviticus, in the Holy Bible. And verse 22.&lt;br /&gt;
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[''shakes head and shrugs''] Sorry, homos… but I ''stand'' behind the truths of the Holy God and Lord. Thank you, and have a pleasant day.&lt;br /&gt;
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[''jump cut'']&lt;br /&gt;
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And, uh, also, just to add another note: I am also—uh, I have also stopped in trying to find true love and romance over the Internet, and have currently—I have currently at lea—or—and possibly temporarily ceased to—ceased talking from instant messages and the Mumble on the Internet. I've taken the first step into encouraging myself to actually talking to the women around here. And I quote the book that I have learned about from the John Tesh radio show, as well as my, uh, pastoral counselor: ''[[How to Talk to Girls]]'' by Alec Greven... a 9-year-old. You can find a video where he talks about his book on [http://www.amazon.com/How-Talk-Girls-Alec-Greven/dp/0061709999/ Amazon.com]. ''Great book''!&lt;br /&gt;
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The only thing that I disagree about is the—is the fact that, uh... men are the magnets and the women, they are the metal. Because it can go either way. He just basically backs up to the fact that—ab—of us guys being the magnets—''only on their brains!'' Only on the brains. Only if they're smart enough. I mean, not every man is smart! [[lie|I'm not saying I'm dumb, or naïve]]. But not every man is smart. So... that's a false statement, Alec. But I commend you on the rest of your words, if you're listening to this, Alec.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you. Have a pleasant day.&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[CWC Update 4 March 2009]]|nextlink=[[CWC Callout for Miss Emily and Stephanie]]|}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Captain's Log}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Captain's log entries| 2009-03-10]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Homos| 2009-03-10]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=CWC_Major_Update_26_March_2009&amp;diff=124205</id>
		<title>CWC Major Update 26 March 2009</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=CWC_Major_Update_26_March_2009&amp;diff=124205"/>
		<updated>2010-11-09T17:59:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: It's the actual video description Chris used with his video. This page and wiki exist to record his actions, so what he wrote on his video has a legitimate part in an article written about it.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;In &amp;quot;'''CWC Major Update 26 March 2009'''&amp;quot; (officially &amp;quot;'''CWC Major Update 03262009'''&amp;quot;), [[Chris]] threatens to withhold comics from his [[fans]] if [[trolls]] refuse to leave [[Megan]] alone.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Official description:''' Leave Megan and her Family Alone. You will want to stay on my good side if you want to read more comic pages.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Video==&lt;br /&gt;
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| name           = CWC Major Update 26 March 2009&lt;br /&gt;
| image          = {{#ev:youtube|hBg-bn75Y1M}}&lt;br /&gt;
| imagewidth     = 250&lt;br /&gt;
| Stardate       = 26 March 2009&lt;br /&gt;
| Maker          = [[Christian Weston Chandler]]&lt;br /&gt;
| Subject Matter = [[Image:comics.png]] [[Comic|Comics]]&lt;br /&gt;
| Shirt          = [[Image:Horizontalbluegrayshirt.png]] Horizontal blue/gray shirt&lt;br /&gt;
| previous       = [[CWC_Music_Video_Holding_Out_For_a_Hero#Video|CWC Music Video&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; Holding Out For a Hero]]&lt;br /&gt;
| next           = [[Tour_of_Chris's_House#Inside|Tour of Chris's House - Inside]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transcript===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Captain's Log]], Stardate: March 26th, 2009.&lt;br /&gt;
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I wish to, uh, start this, uh, major update with a important note.&lt;br /&gt;
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I have, uh, recently received a request from my old [[gal-pal]] [[Megan]]. Uh, some of you probably know her from the [[ED]] page. So many [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|mistakes]] were made in the past. [''[[sigh]]''] She wants to personally [''unintelligible''] haunt me every day. But... [''cough'']&lt;br /&gt;
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I ask now that, uh, everybody who, uh, everybody who, uh, sees her in person and recognize her, please just leave her alone. Leave her alone.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sh—she has been under so much [[stress]] from the n—not only the [[trolls]], but also from everybody who recognizes her and just bunch of damn.... So just simply put, please leave her alone and keep your opinions to yourselves. If you can't say something nice, say ''nothing''. [''cough'']&lt;br /&gt;
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Plus, also, think about this: you guys stay on my good side if you want me to continue making the comic pages and getting the [[Sonichu]] site back up. Which is why I made it a major priority in my two previous videos I uploaded onto [[YouTube]], leave me and I—my new girlfriend [[Ivy]]—leave us alone. [[Captain's Log, Stardate March 27th, 2009|Back off]].&lt;br /&gt;
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So, amongst the with that between her—uh, between just like, uh... just like you would not interfere with me and Ivy, back off from Megan. If you want to stay on my good side, if you want me to keep drawing the [[Sonichu (comic)|comics]].&lt;br /&gt;
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I swear, or I swear to [[God]], if you get me on my [[CWCFlyingElephants|worst side]], my worst possible offense, I will cease. Swear to God. So just back off.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Back off.''&lt;br /&gt;
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Peace.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[CWC Music Video Holding Out For a Hero]]|nextlink=[[Tour of Chris's House]]|}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Captain's log entries| 2009-03-26]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=CWC_with_Bible_-_Leviticus&amp;diff=122943</id>
		<title>CWC with Bible - Leviticus</title>
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		<updated>2010-11-01T16:42:36Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: Chris breaks most of the leviticus rules&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{quote|So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone....| John 8:7, a Bible verse Chris seemed to miss}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Judge not, that ye be not judged.| Matthew 7:1, another verse Chris seemed to miss}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;'''CWC with Bible - Leviticus'''&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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On March 8, [[Chris]] watched an episode of ''[[Family Guy]]'' (&amp;quot;Family Gay&amp;quot;), in which Peter Griffin becomes [[homos]]exual, and Stewie cites the Bible verse Leviticus 18:22 in opposition of this development. The joke, of course (aside from this coming from a closet case like Stewie) is that this scripture is frequently cited by opponents of homosexuality, even by people who don't exactly sit around reading the Bible, let alone Leviticus.&lt;br /&gt;
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Leviticus 18 concerns God speaking to Moses, relaying a message to the Israelites forbidding various things, including [[Crystal|incest]], [[That Goatee WILL Grow Back|shaving]], [[Fanta|unclean]] [[McDonald's|foods]], [[Chris and sex#Bestiality|bestiality]], [[Sonichu|animal hybrids]], [[Chris and fashion|blended clothing]], and male homosexuality. The single verse concerning homosexuality has been [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviticus_18 thoroughly debated], and it appears Chris has doomed his fan base to engage in another round of the same tired arguments. Although Chris feels this verse is EXTREMELY important, he feels no need to [[Chris and religion|apply the rest of the bible to himself]].&lt;br /&gt;
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In other developments, Chris is hard at work on a new [[Sonichu medallion]], and he publicly announces that he is no longer focusing the Internet as a front in his [[Love Quest]]. Instead, he has begun using a novelty book written by a nine-year-old to help him talk to girls in person.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Video==&lt;br /&gt;
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| Stardate       = 10 [[March 2009]]&lt;br /&gt;
| Maker          = [[Chris|Christian Weston Chandler]]&lt;br /&gt;
| Subject Matter = [[Image:homosn.png]] Homos&lt;br /&gt;
| Shirt          = [[Image:Redyellowstripeshirt.png]] Red/yellow striped shirt&lt;br /&gt;
| previous       = [[Captain's_Log,_Stardate_March_4th,_2009#Epilogue|CWC Calls Out Max]]&lt;br /&gt;
| next           = [[CWC Callout for Miss Emily and Stephanie#Watch|CWC Callout for Miss Emily and Stephanie]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|…I ''stand'' behind the truths of the Holy God and Lord.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transcript===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Captain's Log]], Stardate: March… 9th, 2009.&lt;br /&gt;
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I am here just to, uh, remind everybody I am wearing my ring. And I want everybody to know that when I am wearing my ring, I am being most honest and upfront, just like I did when I wore my medallion. And incidentally, I'm working on another one. Hopefully, I'll have it coated in metal.&lt;br /&gt;
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But also, on another note, I would like to, uh, state an obvious fact that has been revealed in the latest episode of ''[[Family Guy]]'', and backs me up on the f—on the fact that… [[homos|ho-mo-sex-u-al-i-ty-and-gay-ness]] is just plain wrong. And Stewie has quoted that—the Bible verse that has just—that basically says it in a nutshell. Leviticus: chapter 18, verse 22:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;“Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Leviticus 18:22 (New International Version)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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And to go on further, among the first number of verses: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;“The Lord said to Boses, ‘Speak to the Israelites and say to them: “I am the Lord your God. You must ''not'' do as they do in Egypt, where you used to live, and you must… not do as they do in the land of Canaan, where I am bringing you. Do not follow their practices. You must obey my laws and be careful to follow my decrees. I am the Lord your God. Keep my decrees and laws, for the man who obeys them and will live by them. I am the Lord.”’”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Leviticus 18:1-5 (New International Version)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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And majority of the laws is basically do not sleep with, uh, your relati—with your ''close'' relatives or the, uh, relation of those relatives. And, uh, because in the end, it just described here, uh... from, uh, 25, and so on.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;“Even the land was defiled…”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Leviticus 18:25 (New International Version)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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…among such things…&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;“…so, I punished it for its sin, and the land vomited out its inhabitants. But you must keep my decrees and my laws. The native-born and the aliens living among you must not do any of these detestable things…”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Leviticus 18:25-27 (New International Version)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Especially sleeping with a man as you would a woman... you homos.&lt;br /&gt;
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Now, where was I? Oh, yeah...&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;“…for all these things were done by the people who lived in the land before you, and the land became defiled. And if you defile the land, it will vomit you out as it vomited out the nations that were before you. Everyone who does any of these detestable things… such persons must be cut off from their people. Keep my requirements, and do not follow any of the detestable customs that were practiced before you… came and- before you came, and do not defile yourselves with them. I am the Lord your God.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Leviticus 18:27-30 (New International Version)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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This was chapter 18 of Leviticus, in the Holy Bible. And verse 22.&lt;br /&gt;
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[''shakes head and shrugs''] Sorry, homos… but I ''stand'' behind the truths of the Holy God and Lord. Thank you, and have a pleasant day.&lt;br /&gt;
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[''jump cut'']&lt;br /&gt;
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And, uh, also, just to add another note: I am also—uh, I have also stopped in trying to find true love and romance over the Internet, and have currently—I have currently at lea—or—and possibly temporarily ceased to—ceased talking from instant messages and the Mumble on the Internet. I've taken the first step into encouraging myself to actually talking to the women around here. And I quote the book that I have learned about from the John Tesh radio show, as well as my, uh, pastoral counselor: ''[[How to Talk to Girls]]'' by Alec Greven... a 9-year-old. You can find a video where he talks about his book on [http://www.amazon.com/How-Talk-Girls-Alec-Greven/dp/0061709999/ Amazon.com]. ''Great book''!&lt;br /&gt;
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The only thing that I disagree about is the—is the fact that, uh... men are the magnets and the women, they are the metal. Because it can go either way. He just basically backs up to the fact that—ab—of us guys being the magnets—''only on their brains!'' Only on the brains. Only if they're smart enough. I mean, not every man is smart! [[lie|I'm not saying I'm dumb, or naïve]]. But not every man is smart. So... that's a false statement, Alec. But I commend you on the rest of your words, if you're listening to this, Alec.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you. Have a pleasant day.&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[CWC Update 4 March 2009]]|nextlink=[[CWC Callout for Miss Emily and Stephanie]]|}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Captain's Log}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Captain's log entries| 2009-03-10]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Homos| 2009-03-10]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Coffee_Place&amp;diff=122497</id>
		<title>Talk:Coffee Place</title>
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		<updated>2010-10-29T23:47:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: /* Delete already */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Do Not Delete; Pursue for the Drama. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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My family and I were there one morning a couple of weeks ago; my camera was screwing up with me, so I ended up with the photo of the front counter.  I haven't been back for a while (Damn parents won't drive me back there), and I'm only 14.&lt;br /&gt;
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Robert was shouting at Amanda, and eventually Chrissy joined in with an uproar so loud, it would have awaken the dead.  It was in response to Amanda harassing them that day.  I asked around after Robert and Chris left, without my family taking notice of me.&lt;br /&gt;
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I can get away with anything within my reach; I'm the middle child of a set of three in my family.  Sadly, we were only passing through that week on our way back from a visit with my Grandma and Grandpa in South VA; we live up in Boston.&lt;br /&gt;
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Being bullied as a Freshman last year in my High School was no fucking picnic either.  And I really loath ANYONE who is even considered &amp;quot;Special&amp;quot;.  I'm Special enough on my own for being invisible yet able to attract attention remotely with a mere thought or do-nothing and having to put up with the aggresiveness in my fucking family; I am very much the Master Mind in the family.  My father is damned retarded.&lt;br /&gt;
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But enough about me, I hate Chris as much as the rest of you.  Stopping the presses on his books and giving up his website; it still pisses me off.  If I recall correctly, it was about 10:30 when the Father and Son Duo left, so best bet is about 10:00 AM to try and intercept.  I want to see Chris, if not both of them, squirm in torture from our Trolling of him.  I really want to see him blow his top off again.  LULZ.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and the Windows at that place were Tinted, so the photography would be best from inside the place.&lt;br /&gt;
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For the LULZ!!!!&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:JenkinsJinkies|JenkinsJinkies]] 22:16, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*personally, i'd reward you shittons of stuff if you got a video of chris/bob arguing. i don't care who wins, amanda or chris, because again it's all for the LULZ. if amanda loses, i'll send in my troops. because amanda has potential...yes...indeed. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 11:09, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Yes, my boy, you have done a great service for the CWCki. I salute you, good sir. [[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 13:15, 6 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== This is a confirmed CWCSighting ==&lt;br /&gt;
The first one. Now stop harassing this user Christ almighty. god damn you people overanalyzing shit. now if anyone touches this user I will BAN them. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 00:15, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Thanks Clyde. I'm not the most active member on here, but goddamn some people get way too SERIOUS BUSINESS over some shit. This, even if it does have some non-CWC info in it, and even if it was a small sighting, is still useful, and furthermore interesting. [[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 05:58, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I think some people are just jumpy since Chris found another way to lock himself out of the internet. We must also accept and protect the brave volunteers who brought us sightings of the manchild. I think a banner confirming this sighting as valid might do good into dampening some &amp;quot;enthusiastic&amp;quot; reactions. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:10, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== This Amanda person seems interesting enough. ==&lt;br /&gt;
Chris should probably do something against her. Perhaps the LULZ that come out of both. Chris has nothing to lose because he has no job because he's a lazy piece of shit, but Amanda has her job. I wonder if Chris could get her fired lololol. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 03:43, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Haha yeah, that would be lulzworthy. I hope he does. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 05:54, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Wait wouldn't there be implications if it this site was linked to influencing Chris to get Amanda fired? This site may get shut down if Chris goes and does something like this. I'd say lets just hope Chris leaves this Amanda be.([[User:Drlugae|Drlugae]] 13:18, 4 July 2010 (UTC))&lt;br /&gt;
:::Good point.  I guess we don't want Chris doing it.  Thank god he doesn't read these because something like that would be the death of this website. -- [[User:Mexican|Mexican]] 16:43, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That could be a total disaster for us and the CWCiki itself. Though we probably don't need to worry about that too much: Chris is way too much of a coward to ever try messing with her Amanda, so we should be safe-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 17:01, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It would be even worse if he recorded it so he had evidence that he was there.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 19:41, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I am worried that Chris will go back to this place and yell at that Amanda and tell her that she's a Pickle Agent.  It could be a total disaster for all the trolls out there just like Kei said.  If Chris tells her she's a Pickle Agent and causes a ruckus, then the government will have another piece of evidence to shut down all of the trolls. But I wonder if Chris will have the balls and manliness to go confront her and get her fired, hahahahahahahahaha. [[User:Elephant|Elephant]] 03:50, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Honestly, I don't think he has the guts to go through with his little plan. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 05:01, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, Chris is all hot air.  He's too weak and cowardly to put up any sort of fight, be it mental or physical.  I bet his parents must be so ashamed of him for not fighting his own battles and hiding behind them all the time.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 05:33, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::It's kinda ironic, isn't it? Chris always bags trolls for not having the guts to meet him face to face, and then he goes and shows how gutless he is by not facing this obviously evil bitch. He's no better than us. [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 10:36, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::What has Amanda done that COULD get her fired, exactly? [[User:Sarge|Sarge]] 9:58, 6 July 2010(EST)&lt;br /&gt;
As ballsalicious it would be for Chris to confront her, the CWCki is at stake. I'd rather just have nothing happen. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 11:05, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think we're safe though Mr.Cash, we all know what type of character Chris has: he's too much of a coward to ever do anything, the naive retard runs away from anyone or anything that makes him uncomfortable, that's why he always looses. I wouldn't be surprised if that balding fuck is hiding from Amanda as we speak; as a customer he could start a screaming match with her and get her fired, and possibly start an investigation that could get us shut down, he's too much a coward to ever reach out and take any opportunity he has though! -[[User:Kei|Kei]] 16:37, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::If Chris confronts her, it'll all end: us, the ED page, hell, even the Greene County Conspiracy might go down. We can't let this happen, guys.[[User:Hiiro|Hiiro]] 17:02, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::If it does, start backing up the site. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 17:04, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Chris is so naive, though - he's always talking about how much he wants to lose his virginity, but he doesn't even realise that girls will only fuck guys who stand up for themselves and are assertive. If he did stand up to manajerks like Amanda, he might even have a chance at some china. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 20:58, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Chicks dig it when guys stand up to them and put them in their place.  Hell, the Amanda chick herself might even dig him if he showed her what a man she is.  It's what women do, they say no, they deny, they tease: It's all a test.  Those brave enough to not take no for an answer and get what they want end up getting the girl.  If Chris stands up to her, it make him more of a man than even *I* am. [[User:Frontspac|Frontspac]] 09:50, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Have we heard anything new from this lately?--[[User:MEANWHILE|MEANWHILE]] 07:14, 26 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Do not edit==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey guys, we want to give this information time to get digested by the head trolls so don't edit it at all unless you're an admin please. If you're an admin you can do what you want. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 09:48, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I've already added the significant information to [[List of places that have banned Chris]].--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 01:21, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think anything is going to happen with this Ron.  Look at the Fridays After Five article; spotted once and then nothing.  This is probably just a random CWCsighting, like someone seeing Bigfoot while on a hike.  --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 23:31, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Jenkins hasn't been on since 13 July and this article needs a serious rewrite. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 09:07, 12 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Indeed.  I'm not arguing about the article's importance or anything, just the execution.   It is almost certainly the worst-written page on this wiki. A few tweaks could preserve and enhance everything it brings to the table, while losing the flavor of a 13-year-old on a 3-day crack and Ritalin binge. I don't see what makes the spastic gibbering such a vitally important part of the message.  Incoherence is not a virtue, but whatever. [[User:Smokedaddy|Smokedaddy]] 18:57, 28 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;I agree, maybe I'm just retarded and can't see why this guy is jesus or whateer, but this article is a poorly written mess about a low quality picture, and the Amanda article is one sentence. People keep saying that if we just looked hard enough we would know why he's so amazing, could you be any less vauge. I think that this and amanda should be deleted, if we had an article for every place chris eats at or every person who is mean to chris, then we would have way to many articles. --[[User:Dalkalopagus|Dalkalopagus]] 16:19, 5 September 2010 (PDT)&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Wow, I'm really dumb. Disregard this.--[[User:Dalkalopagus|Dalkalopagus]] 16:52, 5 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Delete already ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This page is a piece of shit, terribly written, and ain't nothing happened to it except certain editors bitching about it. Clearly it needs to go. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 10:27, 27 October 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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shut it. this article is one of the best on the cwcki and if you can't see that, then you're blind. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 10:42, 27 October 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Also, I agree with Apostrophe.''' And I did make a ''significantly'' better written article on [[Burger King]]. Also, I can see that this article is shit. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam &amp;amp;amp; Eggs]] 16:14, 29 October 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Try and think before you type, no one cares about your article revision and how much &amp;quot;better&amp;quot; it is than it's current form, that's not what's significant here. If something is this way can't you please have the sence to figure out that there may be a good reason?-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 16:46, 29 October 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This article is still important.  Do you not grasp how important having it here is?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 16:37, 29 October 2010 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Coffee_Place&amp;diff=122496</id>
		<title>Talk:Coffee Place</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Coffee_Place&amp;diff=122496"/>
		<updated>2010-10-29T23:46:08Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: /* Delete already */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Do Not Delete; Pursue for the Drama. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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My family and I were there one morning a couple of weeks ago; my camera was screwing up with me, so I ended up with the photo of the front counter.  I haven't been back for a while (Damn parents won't drive me back there), and I'm only 14.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Robert was shouting at Amanda, and eventually Chrissy joined in with an uproar so loud, it would have awaken the dead.  It was in response to Amanda harassing them that day.  I asked around after Robert and Chris left, without my family taking notice of me.&lt;br /&gt;
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I can get away with anything within my reach; I'm the middle child of a set of three in my family.  Sadly, we were only passing through that week on our way back from a visit with my Grandma and Grandpa in South VA; we live up in Boston.&lt;br /&gt;
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Being bullied as a Freshman last year in my High School was no fucking picnic either.  And I really loath ANYONE who is even considered &amp;quot;Special&amp;quot;.  I'm Special enough on my own for being invisible yet able to attract attention remotely with a mere thought or do-nothing and having to put up with the aggresiveness in my fucking family; I am very much the Master Mind in the family.  My father is damned retarded.&lt;br /&gt;
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But enough about me, I hate Chris as much as the rest of you.  Stopping the presses on his books and giving up his website; it still pisses me off.  If I recall correctly, it was about 10:30 when the Father and Son Duo left, so best bet is about 10:00 AM to try and intercept.  I want to see Chris, if not both of them, squirm in torture from our Trolling of him.  I really want to see him blow his top off again.  LULZ.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and the Windows at that place were Tinted, so the photography would be best from inside the place.&lt;br /&gt;
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For the LULZ!!!!&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:JenkinsJinkies|JenkinsJinkies]] 22:16, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*personally, i'd reward you shittons of stuff if you got a video of chris/bob arguing. i don't care who wins, amanda or chris, because again it's all for the LULZ. if amanda loses, i'll send in my troops. because amanda has potential...yes...indeed. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 11:09, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Yes, my boy, you have done a great service for the CWCki. I salute you, good sir. [[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 13:15, 6 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== This is a confirmed CWCSighting ==&lt;br /&gt;
The first one. Now stop harassing this user Christ almighty. god damn you people overanalyzing shit. now if anyone touches this user I will BAN them. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 00:15, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Thanks Clyde. I'm not the most active member on here, but goddamn some people get way too SERIOUS BUSINESS over some shit. This, even if it does have some non-CWC info in it, and even if it was a small sighting, is still useful, and furthermore interesting. [[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 05:58, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I think some people are just jumpy since Chris found another way to lock himself out of the internet. We must also accept and protect the brave volunteers who brought us sightings of the manchild. I think a banner confirming this sighting as valid might do good into dampening some &amp;quot;enthusiastic&amp;quot; reactions. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:10, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== This Amanda person seems interesting enough. ==&lt;br /&gt;
Chris should probably do something against her. Perhaps the LULZ that come out of both. Chris has nothing to lose because he has no job because he's a lazy piece of shit, but Amanda has her job. I wonder if Chris could get her fired lololol. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 03:43, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Haha yeah, that would be lulzworthy. I hope he does. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 05:54, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Wait wouldn't there be implications if it this site was linked to influencing Chris to get Amanda fired? This site may get shut down if Chris goes and does something like this. I'd say lets just hope Chris leaves this Amanda be.([[User:Drlugae|Drlugae]] 13:18, 4 July 2010 (UTC))&lt;br /&gt;
:::Good point.  I guess we don't want Chris doing it.  Thank god he doesn't read these because something like that would be the death of this website. -- [[User:Mexican|Mexican]] 16:43, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That could be a total disaster for us and the CWCiki itself. Though we probably don't need to worry about that too much: Chris is way too much of a coward to ever try messing with her Amanda, so we should be safe-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 17:01, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It would be even worse if he recorded it so he had evidence that he was there.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 19:41, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I am worried that Chris will go back to this place and yell at that Amanda and tell her that she's a Pickle Agent.  It could be a total disaster for all the trolls out there just like Kei said.  If Chris tells her she's a Pickle Agent and causes a ruckus, then the government will have another piece of evidence to shut down all of the trolls. But I wonder if Chris will have the balls and manliness to go confront her and get her fired, hahahahahahahahaha. [[User:Elephant|Elephant]] 03:50, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Honestly, I don't think he has the guts to go through with his little plan. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 05:01, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, Chris is all hot air.  He's too weak and cowardly to put up any sort of fight, be it mental or physical.  I bet his parents must be so ashamed of him for not fighting his own battles and hiding behind them all the time.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 05:33, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::It's kinda ironic, isn't it? Chris always bags trolls for not having the guts to meet him face to face, and then he goes and shows how gutless he is by not facing this obviously evil bitch. He's no better than us. [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 10:36, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::What has Amanda done that COULD get her fired, exactly? [[User:Sarge|Sarge]] 9:58, 6 July 2010(EST)&lt;br /&gt;
As ballsalicious it would be for Chris to confront her, the CWCki is at stake. I'd rather just have nothing happen. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 11:05, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think we're safe though Mr.Cash, we all know what type of character Chris has: he's too much of a coward to ever do anything, the naive retard runs away from anyone or anything that makes him uncomfortable, that's why he always looses. I wouldn't be surprised if that balding fuck is hiding from Amanda as we speak; as a customer he could start a screaming match with her and get her fired, and possibly start an investigation that could get us shut down, he's too much a coward to ever reach out and take any opportunity he has though! -[[User:Kei|Kei]] 16:37, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::If Chris confronts her, it'll all end: us, the ED page, hell, even the Greene County Conspiracy might go down. We can't let this happen, guys.[[User:Hiiro|Hiiro]] 17:02, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::If it does, start backing up the site. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 17:04, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Chris is so naive, though - he's always talking about how much he wants to lose his virginity, but he doesn't even realise that girls will only fuck guys who stand up for themselves and are assertive. If he did stand up to manajerks like Amanda, he might even have a chance at some china. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 20:58, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Chicks dig it when guys stand up to them and put them in their place.  Hell, the Amanda chick herself might even dig him if he showed her what a man she is.  It's what women do, they say no, they deny, they tease: It's all a test.  Those brave enough to not take no for an answer and get what they want end up getting the girl.  If Chris stands up to her, it make him more of a man than even *I* am. [[User:Frontspac|Frontspac]] 09:50, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Have we heard anything new from this lately?--[[User:MEANWHILE|MEANWHILE]] 07:14, 26 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Do not edit==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey guys, we want to give this information time to get digested by the head trolls so don't edit it at all unless you're an admin please. If you're an admin you can do what you want. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 09:48, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I've already added the significant information to [[List of places that have banned Chris]].--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 01:21, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think anything is going to happen with this Ron.  Look at the Fridays After Five article; spotted once and then nothing.  This is probably just a random CWCsighting, like someone seeing Bigfoot while on a hike.  --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 23:31, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Jenkins hasn't been on since 13 July and this article needs a serious rewrite. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 09:07, 12 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Indeed.  I'm not arguing about the article's importance or anything, just the execution.   It is almost certainly the worst-written page on this wiki. A few tweaks could preserve and enhance everything it brings to the table, while losing the flavor of a 13-year-old on a 3-day crack and Ritalin binge. I don't see what makes the spastic gibbering such a vitally important part of the message.  Incoherence is not a virtue, but whatever. [[User:Smokedaddy|Smokedaddy]] 18:57, 28 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;I agree, maybe I'm just retarded and can't see why this guy is jesus or whateer, but this article is a poorly written mess about a low quality picture, and the Amanda article is one sentence. People keep saying that if we just looked hard enough we would know why he's so amazing, could you be any less vauge. I think that this and amanda should be deleted, if we had an article for every place chris eats at or every person who is mean to chris, then we would have way to many articles. --[[User:Dalkalopagus|Dalkalopagus]] 16:19, 5 September 2010 (PDT)&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Wow, I'm really dumb. Disregard this.--[[User:Dalkalopagus|Dalkalopagus]] 16:52, 5 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Delete already ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This page is a piece of shit, terribly written, and ain't nothing happened to it except certain editors bitching about it. Clearly it needs to go. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 10:27, 27 October 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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shut it. this article is one of the best on the cwcki and if you can't see that, then you're blind. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 10:42, 27 October 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Also, I agree with Apostrophe.''' And I did make a ''significantly'' better written article on [[Burger King]]. Also, I can see that this article is shit. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam &amp;amp;amp; Eggs]] 16:14, 29 October 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Try and think before you type, no one cares about your article revision or how much better it is than it's current form, that's not what's significant about it. If something is this way can't you please have the sence to figure out that there may be a good reason?-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 16:46, 29 October 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This article is still important.  Do you not grasp how important having it here is?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 16:37, 29 October 2010 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:WeighIn&amp;diff=122211</id>
		<title>Talk:WeighIn</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:WeighIn&amp;diff=122211"/>
		<updated>2010-10-28T01:04:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: Moar TLDR pseudomedicine&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Chris weighing himself???&lt;br /&gt;
Is he gonna start a weight loss plan for Jackie? --[[CaseHa]] 25 October 2010&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sign your posts and take the topic to Speculation for a discussion (admins are cracking down on forum-like posts).  --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 16:18, 25 October 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Not enough data to work with unfortunately. We have no idea how accurate that scale is. The second he steps off of it, it could read -40 pounds. Secondly a person could put all their weight on the balls of their feet with that type of scale and screw with the measurement (you should have your weight on your heels). Sucks. This could have been good material to work with. [[User:Mupkids|Mupkids]] 19:08, 25 October 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Not A Forum}}&lt;br /&gt;
* I've speculated on the Chris and Health talk page that its because his muscles have nearly completely atrophied. Therefore, he wouldn't weight so much. --[[User:IconOfEvi|IconOfEvi]] 20:39, 25 October 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* I'd argue for one of these explanations as well. I'll be the first to admit that I am a dumpy guy who isn't in very good shape, but there's no way in hell I weigh 12-15 lbs. more than CWC by legitimate means. Granted I am about 3/4 of an inch shorter than him by most estimates, but still. So either I am heavier by virtue of actually still having muscle mass left in my body, or I basically need to go jump off a cliff now because that's just embarrassing :( --[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 20:48, 25 October 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I'm nearly 300, but I have muscle too. Still, it could be less. I blame school and not being able to goto Tae. Point being though that muscle accounts for a lot of weight. The fact that Chris weighs 220 or whatever is more indicative to me that he has nearly zero muscle mass/power. --[[User:IconOfEvi|IconOfEvi]] 21:11, 25 October 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Do this is just me or the scale's number goes up before he steps down? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 08:07, 26 October 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* God damn, this scared me for a minute. I way nearly twenty stone and yet I don't even look as fat as Chris does. :| --[[User:Black Pickle|Black Pickle]] 15:49, 26 October 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* See, this is why I can't watch programs like 'the biggest loser' without rolling my eyes and switching channels while muttering 'oh for crying out loud'. Since I started to work out a pair of months ago, I ''gained'' nearly 4 kg AND went down a size, and I'm a girl. If I can put on muscle like this, much more can a guy with half the effort. Chris has his muscles so atrophied that it is no wonder the scale shows so little. TLDR he's not faking it, but has a low weight for all the wrong reasons. - [[User:LNHill|LNHill]] 18:27, 26 October 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* For the record, these kinds of bathroom scales are horribly inaccurate, and given the looks of it it's a very old model. I have a pretty old scale like that at home, and it's often off by 10-20 pounds. [[User:KingoftheJuice|KingoftheJuice]] 22:12, 26 October 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:More importantly BMI and weight are near worthless from a medical standpoint: they don't tell anything about what the weight is made of or if the fat is visceral or not.&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(Obviously a 125w27/h36 is totally different from a 125w36/h27)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;... If we had his waist and hip size we could actually figure out something. Lacking that, going by his given torso size, appearance, and comparable people, something around 37% fat is a reasonable guess. This means even though his body weight doesn’t sound terible, his organs are being strangled by visceral fat, a likely reason as to why a GP would put a 20-something on Lipitor&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(he went off it bc the fat aggravated liver trouble it causes)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 18:04, 27 October 2010 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Template:Christory/October_04&amp;diff=117509</id>
		<title>Template:Christory/October 04</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Template:Christory/October_04&amp;diff=117509"/>
		<updated>2010-10-04T04:04:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: syntax lol&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Christory Entry&lt;br /&gt;
|imagename = Aeon claw.PNG&lt;br /&gt;
|imagecaption = Is anybody listening? Do you belieeeve me? &lt;br /&gt;
|text = Today in Christory, in '''[[2008]]''', Chris released a bizarre ''Æon Flux'' [[parody]] video.&lt;br /&gt;
|link = We're Being Watched}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Christory Entry Addition&lt;br /&gt;
|text = Today was also the day, '''[[2005]]''', that Prosecutors decided not to pursue charges against Chris of the crimes of disorderly conduct and trespassing. Take that, [[jerkops]]!&lt;br /&gt;
|link = Sonichu 0#Sub-Episode_1:_Christian_Chandler_in_.22Jerkop-tastropie.22 }}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Template:Christory/October_04&amp;diff=117508</id>
		<title>Template:Christory/October 04</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Template:Christory/October_04&amp;diff=117508"/>
		<updated>2010-10-04T04:02:57Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: &amp;quot;Nolo Prosequi&amp;quot; is not the same as a court deciding to acquit him, prosecutors just decided they didn't want to spend their time prosecuting a mentally disabled man.&lt;/p&gt;
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|imagename = Aeon claw.PNG&lt;br /&gt;
|imagecaption = Is anybody listening? Do you belieeeve me? &lt;br /&gt;
|text = Today in Christory, in '''[[2008]]''', Chris released a bizarre ''Æon Flux'' [[parody]] video.&lt;br /&gt;
|link = We're Being Watched}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Christory Entry Addition&lt;br /&gt;
|text = Today was also the day, '''[[2005]]''', that Prosecutors decided against pursuing charges against Chris of the crimes of disorderly conduct and trespassing. Take that, [[jerkops]]!&lt;br /&gt;
|link = Sonichu 0#Sub-Episode_1:_Christian_Chandler_in_.22Jerkop-tastropie.22 }}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Superwoman&amp;diff=114718</id>
		<title>User talk:Superwoman</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Superwoman&amp;diff=114718"/>
		<updated>2010-09-20T03:57:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Jawusum, man ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nice to see you back here again. How's life been at home? Anything interesting happen lately that's jawusum? --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 15:42, 19 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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many awesome things![[User:Superwoman|Superwoman]] 19:49, 19 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
==So==&lt;br /&gt;
I was wondering, if Chris were your patient what regimen would you put him on?- [[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:57, 19 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kei&amp;diff=114515</id>
		<title>User talk:Kei</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kei&amp;diff=114515"/>
		<updated>2010-09-18T23:23:25Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: Blanked the page&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Champthom&amp;diff=113369</id>
		<title>User talk:Champthom</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Champthom&amp;diff=113369"/>
		<updated>2010-09-13T20:08:06Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: Disregard that I suck cocks&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Talk to me.&lt;br /&gt;
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Be sure to check out the archives as well:&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Archive:''' [[User:Champthom/Archive 1|1]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 2|2]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 3|3]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 4|4]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Upload page==&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you sir, your change is much appreciated. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 12:43, 20 December 2009 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sonichu Franchise Games==&lt;br /&gt;
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How about this:  [[User:Dude/Sonichu_Franchise_Games]]&lt;br /&gt;
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...replace these:&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sonichu (game)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John's Custom Gundam: Sisterly Rescue]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Pokémon:_Lightning_Version]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sonichu_Adventure]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sonichu_Advance]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[EX-CWC]]&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Dude|Dude]] 05:47, 22 December 2009 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Chris's First Interview==&lt;br /&gt;
I noticed on [[Talk:Chris-chan_Discusses...]] you asked for someone to mirror Chris's first interview on Youtube. I know that was a while back, &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;but as far as I can tell no one has actually done it yet&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;, so I went ahead and did it for you [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U-4Mvc5LbM]. I hope you're pleased. --[[User:That Man|That Man]] 23:10, 27 December 2009 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
*just noticed a while ago that it's aleardy been uploaded by The CWCville Library. I have no clue how I was so oblivious to that. --[[User:That Man|That Man]] 03:26, 28 December 2009 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
:*I didn't notice this either, thank you for telling me about this though and I appreciate your effort anyways.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Also can't seem to find it on the CWCvilleLibrary...could you possibly post a link?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:49, 28 December 2009 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Thanks, Champthom==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;:)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; --[[User:GokuGetEm|GokuGetEm]] 09:53, 31 December 2009 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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==New Hotness for Videos==&lt;br /&gt;
Take a look at this template for videos that [[User:NeoShadow]] made; it's really sweet.  It can wrap around videos (in the middle of the page, where they are now) or it can be used as a sidebar.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Template:  [[Template:Infobox/video]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*Centered example:  [[User:Neoshadow/sandbox/Sonic_Sweepstakes]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*Sidebar example:  [[User:Neoshadow/sandbox/Sonic_Sweepstakes2]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thoughts?  It's been on the [[CWCki:Priority_Listing|to do list]] for a while now, and we could get one or the other in place pretty quickly.  The big question is which placement to use, and general style questions vis-a-vis the way it looks.  Let us know!  --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 09:43, 3 January 2010 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
*I really like it, but there was some debate (I need to see where) over the usage of video infoboxes, as some people argued it's unnecessarily replicates information one can gleam from the article. However, I think your centered example might solve that as this is ultimately what we can use to replace just pasting the video in Video sections of articles. I think the &amp;quot;Made by&amp;quot; would be useless in 99% of situations (with the very few videos made by other people, such as the Watch and Win one, or the videos by Scarlet). Personally I like your infoboxes, but I'm not sure if everyone else likes it elsewhere.&lt;br /&gt;
:Best I'd do is mention this in the [[CWCki:Community_Portal|community portal]]. As I said, I think your centered example might be very useful and a nicer display than just a YouTube video in the video section. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:11, 3 January 2010 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
*This add-on is useless and redundant if you ask me. There's nothing new here you can't read in the introduction of the video, in the video navigation bar and I don't see the need for the &amp;quot;Festive&amp;quot; icons. I respect the efforts but I am a K.I.S.S.-Type of guy. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 15:02, 3 January 2010 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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==IMPOSTORS==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Champ, this is the &amp;quot;dude&amp;quot; from the old CWCki... somebody claimed my nick in the three hours between Cogs fixing the captcha and me checking back in =(  Is there anything we can do about this?  I can still log into the old CWCki to prove my TRUTH and HONESTY, and I used the same email signing up here (this account) and there (the old &amp;quot;dude&amp;quot;).  --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 05:12, 4 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I'll consult with Cogs later tonight, as I'm not sure if we can kick this other &amp;quot;Dude&amp;quot; off and have you have his nickname, especially given that it's an extremely generic name someone could have chosen (like Anonymous or Nobody or some name like that) or if we can do this, if it is right in doing so. Now I am concerned that people might try to leech off the fame of others by signing up for accounts of previous CWCki users, either to jump start their e-fame or as a way of trolling, so I'll need a second opinion. If anyone wants to weigh in on the matter, by all means do so. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 10:57, 4 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**Yeah, it's pretty generic, but at the same time, I only signed up around October, so it wasn't generic enough to be taken by then.  I am kind of surprised that somebody snapped it up so quickly, since I was pretty actively trying to get it back myself.  I suppose it could be innocent, but it's still kind of frustrating.  Thanks for looking into it.  --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 14:52, 4 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
can you give him the account back. i didn't know. i didnt think dude was gona be available, i though i got lucky. didnt mean to steal it, ill make another one [[User:Dude|Dude]] 00:26, 5 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*No problem Dude (see what I did there?). Okay, here's how this will go down - new Dude, when you get a new account, AIM or message me in IRC when you do. I will merge your current account into your new one. That will free up the username &amp;quot;Dude&amp;quot; and old Dude can register that way. rpoblem oslved. If there's any problems, you guys let me know because then I have to resort to Plan B. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:36, 5 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*New [[User:Dude|Dude]] has been [[Special:Contributions/Dude|inactive]] for about a week now... can I get my account back? --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 17:49, 9 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*The new Dude needs to contact me so I can merge his old account into the new one, thus freeing up &amp;quot;Dude.&amp;quot; If he doesn't respond in 24 hours or so, then contact me and I'll reset the password and give it over to you. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:57, 10 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I'll not take this treachery sitting down! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You dare claim superiority over my powers as a great and terrifying wizard!?  You shall soon see the error of your ways, good sir Champthom.  I am a vengeful spellcaster, and I will rape you furiously in your sleep. [[User:Artiph|Artiph the Destroyer, Omniscient Archmage, bearer of the Grimoire of Destruction,  whose powers by and large surpass that of the Great Wizard CrassCrab, Lord of the Seven Realm and Master of the Archane Black Arts of the Eleventh Trans-Dimensional Vortex]] 11:03, 4 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sup==&lt;br /&gt;
Have a job for me?  You told me to get in touch... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 19:38, 7 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Well I was going to ask you to help upload images but people got onto that which is good.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:57, 7 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Coolio.  On Another note, don't bother restoring my Jerkop status.  I don't need it now seeing as how images have a MUCH higher ceiling.  I'll stick around to improve articles and help people with images if they need it.  --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 10:02, 8 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==SPECIAL MISSION==&lt;br /&gt;
I accept.  Should I simply sign up for an account on Asperpedia and get started or what? --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 09:19, 12 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Yeah, do that - sign up for an Asperpedia account and go zap to the extreme. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:17, 12 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Just to let you know==&lt;br /&gt;
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There's a new user who registered under the name ChristianWestonChandler. I am watching this account since it came online. I just don't get a good feeling about this. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 07:00, 18 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Apologies==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you for fixing that mistake, that was the first time I added a template so I really am horrible at it. --[[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 5:05 20 January 2010 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Chris's resume ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Would you please be so kind as to move this to [[Chris's résumé]] for the sake of more accurate spelling, and to satisfy the grammar nazi in me? If you don't know how to make the fancy és, just copy and paste mine. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 04:22, 31 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Also, please to be deleting [[Chris and fame]]. Broken redirect. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 20:15, 31 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A new Mailbag bombing==&lt;br /&gt;
Well, our dear Christian has now started giving a copy paste reply as his new method of rejection. And hes done it to Mike Jackson's widow. We had a quick discussion about that in the talk page, and we thought it'd be an idea for another mailbag thats just filled entirely with letters about this one subject. Like how we had a whole mailbag asking about Asperchu and stuff like that? I thought we could have another of those; Only this time have an entire mailbag of people calling him out for being such a prick and for still not properly ansewing letters. What do you think Champ? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 18:59, 15 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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* To amend that idea, I suggest having Sysop inform him of another pending legal issue that can only be averted if he gives full replies to each email--he can't use the &amp;quot;Inputed&amp;quot; response or delete the whole thing and replace it with a general response or else the site goes down again or something.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 19:32, 15 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Agreed. We need some sort of cover from him rejecting it in any way. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:56, 15 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Politics]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please to be deleting. Broken redirect. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 01:11, 24 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sandy Rosechu ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Any idea why [[Sandy Rosechu]] is showing up in [[:Category:Templates]]? [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 22:17, 25 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Fixed it.  The Squote template didn't have noinclude wrapped around its category. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:21, 25 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**That was my fault. --[[User:Mikhail Faulken|Mikhail Faulken]] 22:24, 25 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== halp ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yo [[Scampers|Champers]], could you derete this page here: http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/Template:Christory/March_07 ? It will be confus if it doesn't turn up as a red link. Sorry for mistake. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 15:00, 27 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== YO! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Champ old boy, do you have sauce on [[:File:CWCinDailyProgressJuly142007.jpg|this]] here sniplet? It must have slipped right past me, and now I want to know what it is! [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 02:09, 28 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Jerkops Anonymous==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, Champthom. I've been in the mood to move a page or two recently, but my jerkop privileges were abolished with the move to CWCki 2.0. Would you mind reinstating them? [[User:Llort|Llort]] 03:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cole Smithey ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Don't you think an edit like [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Z_%28film%29&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=344566166 this] seems too intentional to be an impostor? Never mind 30+ edits to the Cole Smithey article? [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 18:13, 7 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==Re: Pic of Wallflower==&lt;br /&gt;
Is this ok? It was shopped and It looks less like a man &lt;br /&gt;
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== Posse == &lt;br /&gt;
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Champ, I don't know if you still need monitors, but I have no life and lurk on the CWCki pretty much all day. Hit me up if you need me. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 04:06, 16 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*NO U. Srsly, contact me on AIM or IRC tonight. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:07, 16 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Summaries==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, so I will check. I've started trying to sort and format the summaries for each of the Mumbles, and it's March Mumble Madness, but I seem to have contradicted instructions (as I discovered having worked on ALL of them), by listing rather than writing a narrative. What is it you want exactly, so I can get on it ASAP. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 04:11, 18 March 2010 (UTC)22:40, 17 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Article of the Now==&lt;br /&gt;
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You wanted some sort of template to denote former articles of the now? [[Template:Articleofthenow|How's this?]] --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 19:58, 20 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Clyde already made something, just need to incorporate it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:06, 20 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Late to the party again. Never mind --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 20:23, 20 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== List of Chris' lies ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, I trust your judgment on this. Wasn't sure if cleanup or deletion was the better solution and it looks like I chose wrong. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 20:36, 21 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Quality Control jerkops ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, I saw your comment re &amp;quot;Quality Control&amp;quot; jerkops, of which none seem to be active at this point. I think I could handle that. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 21:12, 21 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Champ old boy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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People want to update [[Fan:Sonichu: The Animated Series]], could you unlock it for a while? [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 09:12, 23 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Userboxes ==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it cool for users to make new rewards\userboxes, like the Grammar Nazi and Assburgers ones, for instance? Some wikis I've edited on don't like for you to make new ones due to space or whatnot, and others let you go crazy with it. Just want to check beforehand. [[User:BubblegumPinkButler|BubblegumPinkButler]] 03:22, 29 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Yeah, it's alright, just don't go too crazy by making a kajillion of them. Some of the useboxes, like the Jerkop, Admin, etc. are obviously protected and it's poor taste to award yourself awards like the Order of the Pickle, etc. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:44, 29 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==April Fool's Day==&lt;br /&gt;
Since its going to be april fools day when the ultimatum expires why dont we just shut down for 1 day and let chris think he's won.&lt;br /&gt;
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and then bring it back on the 2nd with a big fuck you chris&lt;br /&gt;
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user: DKD 15.13 GMT 31.3.10&lt;br /&gt;
* No.  That's stupid.  Chris will make a &amp;quot;HA HA I GOT U TROLLS&amp;quot; video and quit paying attention to us because he thinks we are gone.  If we stay up, we will have our own FUCK YOU CHRIS simply because we're not down.  This will make Chris angry, and angry Chris is funny.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 14:18, 31 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Never compromise, even in the face of &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;Armageddon&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; April Fool's Day. Also, in the future, make a sub heading (it's two equal signs, then your text, followed by two equal signs). --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:32, 31 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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This makes me worry now. What if Chris is pulling a long, convoluted April Fools prank, possibly the idea of a white knight? --[[User:Zehnfragezeichen|Zehnfragezeichen]] 16:18, 31 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Don't be silly. The only White Knight who he listens to is Rocky, and even then, only just barely. And whats the chances that a church counsellor is going to come troll us? I think we're safe. Its almost certain that his plan consists of 'blank pages' and 'try to find and stab the webmaster' --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:32, 31 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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How bout we say that both bob and snorlax are dead, and put 14 Branchland Court up for sale? {{unsigned|Dan Dash}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Please, for the love of God, sign your comments. It's four tildas (~) in a row. I'm tempted to start banning people (albeit temporarily) for those who can't learn how to sign their fucking posts. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:28, 31 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*Champ's got the rage. Dan, would that actually get to Chris? Seems to me it wouldn't bother him that much. Also seems he's making himself trollproof by becoming detached from us. Thoughts? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 23:04, 31 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:**He's not trollproofing himself at all, he's just fighting the urge to go online and complain about things.  This is exactly like when we got him to make the comic--he was really diligent about it and when he missed a day he usually made up by posting two comics on the next.  Flash forward two months and he's only releasing it in short bursts.  He'll be back on his own in that time--less if he thinks Sonichu is being threatened.  I suggest that someone put up an ad on CWCipedia that states that Chris has declared all Asperpedia comics cannon within the Sonichuverse.  Or something about how Chris risks losing the &amp;quot;copyright&amp;quot; if he doesn't make visible use of it for more than two months.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 23:14, 31 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::*I'm not sure, he didn't even seem too angry when he discovered the Cwcipedia was devastated (now THAT would've been an April Fool's Day joke).  Could it be that he's becoming numb to it?  We've done almost everything we can to slander him, his family, and Sonichu.  We've set up &amp;quot;sweethearts&amp;quot; toyed with him and, albeit inadvertently, brought about the end of his last IRL gal-pal.  We sent the health department to his house, without effect, and have parodied Sonichu and Chris himself.  What else CAN we do to this guy? --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 23:17, 31 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::**We didn't call the health department on him and he never learns from his mistakes.  We do it again and again.  He's not getting desensitized at all, actually.  We know most of his buttons now, we've just got to know when to push them.  Oh, and every now and then Chris will do something to troll himself, and that's always worth a laugh.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 23:27, 31 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*** But it's getting kind of cyclical, Chris gets a new sweetheart, he get's in love mood, phone calls are leaked, get lulzy videos and then, someone manages to anger him, he spews some death threats, then the sweetheart leaves/reveals as troll/dies and then we have sulk Chris, then he completely forgets about it and we have the smug Chris, and in between all that  he makes a rant video once in a while. Pretty much we have seen everything chris has to offer for trolling.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 04:26, 1 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==General question==&lt;br /&gt;
Alright so Im a massive newfag here, and I'm wondering how do I create those tags on your pages? For example the eurofag and amerifag stuff. Can I create my own and upload them onto my user page?&lt;br /&gt;
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Templates.--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 03:20, 1 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Contact me ASAP&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What's going on? --[[User:Jerkop|Jerkop]] 03:59, 1 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Contact me privately. My info is on my use page, we can't discuss this openly. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:25, 1 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I've tried to contact you through AIM before, but because I'm a cheapskate who can't use Windows software, I suspect AIM didn't work too well on my end. I'm now in IRC too. I hope this works better. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-size:smaller;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 10:36, 1 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==CWC superstar==&lt;br /&gt;
Which Chris video did you get mentioned in?&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Bunny Hop|PYONG PYONG PYONG! HOPPY EASTER FOR]] [[Crass and Champ|CRASS AND '''CHAMP''']]. Technically he's referring to the crab named after me, so there should be an asterisk. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:24, 6 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Artist for hire==&lt;br /&gt;
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I would be pleased to help by uploading pictures on the CWCki. The problem is that I don't know where to start. There was a page with the needing drawings but it wasn't updated in quite a while. &lt;br /&gt;
I talked to Cogsdev on the irc #sonichu and was referred to you. I'm not new to the Cwcki, but I only registered only today. &lt;br /&gt;
Here's an example of what I can do, if it's good enough:&lt;br /&gt;
http://cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:Sonee_2.jpg --[[User:Blacksky01|Blacksky01]] 23:10, 13 april 2010&lt;br /&gt;
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*I'd say that the [[Artist Commune]] for requested images is still current, so you can still try there. I'd say that the [[Mumble]] chats could use illustrations, mostly of illustrations to go with notable quotes from the chat.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:29, 14 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Here's a pic for the IRC(16 october 2008) with 2 notable quotes from it. Since I'm not sure how to add it in a good way, I'll leave it to you.&lt;br /&gt;
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I hope it's good enough, I kinda messed up the pedo-glasse since it was done from memory.&lt;br /&gt;
Also, how can I link my signature to my userpage?--[[User:Blacksky01|Blacksky01]] 13:44, 19 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Here's another one, this time for the IRC (20 January 2009).&lt;br /&gt;
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I tried doing the pedo glasses right this time. I'll leave this to you. Also, thanks for the edit Beat.--[[User:Blacksky01|Blacksky01]] 22:58, 19 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Transcription Category ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What are your views on a category for all articles containing transcriptions? It would make them easier to locate for maintenance or general interest IMO. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 22:42, 17 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question About Templates ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, I recently uploaded the 4 templates [[Template:Observer|Observer]], [[Template:Warrior|Warrior]], [[Template:Hero|Hero]], and [[Template:Legend|Legend]]. I was wondering what I should do with them( I'm not the best at using Wikis). Should I move them somewhere, edit them, etc.? Also, since you deleted two of the category pages, I was wondering if I should restore those or delete the other two. Sorry if there are any problems. --[[User:Alcoholic Legend|Alcoholic Legend]] 03:10, 18 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Oh, also, just wanted to tell ya that I restored the two category pages for now (now all 4 are up instead of just 2/4). If you want me to change/move anything, I'll gladly do it. Just tell me what to do and I'll get it done. : ) --[[User:Alcoholic Legend|Alcoholic Legend]] 06:14, 18 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Old Cats ==&lt;br /&gt;
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As part of a revamp of userboxes and their categories, there's a lot of now [[Special:UnusedCategories|unused categories prefixed with &amp;quot;List of&amp;quot;]] that need to be deleted forever. Can you fix? --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 05:16, 26 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:There's a few more List of... categories that need nuking. You might have just got hand cramp or something :) --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:21, 26 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*[[THAT IS MY HOUSE|I'M WORKIN ON IT!]].--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:10, 26 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deletion, moving and er, shit ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To do with the Twitter stuff. I remember you saying something about Jerkop powers not extending to moving/deletion. Can I? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 10:55, 28 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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On a related note, I made a mistake on an [[Bill Lumburg/Fan:Sonichu 11|article]] I created and I'm trying to move it to my Userspace. Can you help me with this? I don't see a move option anywhere so I'm assuming only admins can do it.  [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 03:58, 2 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Thanks for taking care of that. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 04:54, 2 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New Performance Style ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Made this and applied it to a few pages after discussion that in the latest video none of the templates reflected the performance style (unadulterated smugness). Probably should have run it by you before I added it to a load of videos, sorry about that. :(&lt;br /&gt;
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:The template has been named incorrectly (Should not have the .png). The icon doesn't seem to match the style of the others - most notably the eyes. And I personally still don't think comeuppance is the right name we should give the template, but that's just me. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 13:02, 8 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Video Template ==&lt;br /&gt;
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So I made a change to the video template last night which inserts a linked version of Chris's name on video templates when someone puts '''|maker= Chris'''. Do you think that since the template is intended for Chris videos, we can just make the maker default to displaying Chris's name and drop the |maker= line for most uses of the template - retaining the option to include it if we need to override it? I need to run this past someone before I start rolling it out.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh and I'm considering making the template parameters lowercase, as is common with templates. I could implement a way for the template to accept both while I transition each use of the template to use lowercase. Worth doing? (Some of the parameters are already lowercase - messy!) --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 21:31, 10 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==#sonichu ban/the stuff I was going to post==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Champ, any word on the issues we discussed? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:16, 12 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Thanks for reminding me, I asked canine and he was going to talk to cogs but never heard back. I'll check with her though, though tonight isn't the best night to do it (long story). --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:31, 12 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Not a problem mate, there's no rush. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 03:31, 12 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*Contact me ASAP, just need to clarify something. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:43, 12 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quick Question==&lt;br /&gt;
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Got something to ask you real quick. Will you be on AIM/IRC tomorrow? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:57, 15 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Actually I'm gonna be out of town, but I'll be back Monday night.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:48, 15 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Glass vs Glasses ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Wait what? Pretty sure glasses is what the majority of English speakers use when referring to a single pair of spectacles. It just looks stupid using &amp;quot;glass&amp;quot;. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:31, 17 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Uhh...Champ? ==&lt;br /&gt;
You deleted the Facial Recognition talk page but not the page itself. Just saying. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:35, 23 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A jerkop resignation letter ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It appears that my furry background is raising a stir in /cwc/, and some people don't want me to post there. It does, however, bring another thing in my mind. I'd ask you to remove my jerkop bit. There's two reasons for this: First, if ''not'' having furries in positions of power helps some of the trolls to sleep better in the night, this course of action would help them. Secondly - and this is a far, far bigger reason - I'm not actually ''using'' the block/delete powers much, and having an account that needlessly has such powers is obviously a computer security risk. I don't think losing those rights would affect me that much as CWCki editor; I'm more concerned about site security and user happiness. Respectfully, --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-size:smaller;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 16:32, 29 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I need to discuss this with Cogs first. I appreciate your selfless concern for the site but I'll be damned if /cwc/ tells me or Cogs how to run this site. What you do outside the CWCki is nobody's damn busy, to be honest. You are one of the finest CWCki editors we have, particularly because you have experience editing Wikipedia and I will not let you be intimidated by Internet fucktards at least on the CWCki. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:40, 29 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
** Understood. I just have to add that this is one of those &amp;quot;last nail in the coffin&amp;quot; type things; like I said, the security issue is, in my opinion, ''far'' more important than the troll reaction. I'm thinking of all that ruckus that was caused by the hacked sysop accounts in Wikipedia a year or two ago. So please, if a policy needs to be made, it should be made on the security grounds, not trolling grounds. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-size:smaller;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 17:47, 29 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*** I saw the thread on the /cwc/ you are referring to. In my humble opinion, you shouldn't give them any power over what you do. If you identify with a paticular group on the internet, it's not important. You seem to be an important editor to this fine Wiki, so having a bit of power can't be wrong in your case. The opinions expressed by the &amp;quot;members&amp;quot; of the /cwc&amp;quot; imageboard aren't worth anything on the CWCkie. Also, an hacking attemp on your account seems highly unlikely if you don't let any clues on your password. But it's only my opinion on the matter, it ain't worth all that much.--[[User:Blacksky01|Blacksky01]]&lt;br /&gt;
**** I know. The whole situation in the thread was ridiculous. Me making the teensy bit of a mistake of being a namefag (I knew the pain threshold was low, but ''sheesh''), people spamming the thread with the (admittedly awful) drawings I drew years ago. (Careful readers might know that I ''specifically'' made a promise not to &amp;quot;spread the cancer&amp;quot; here. It applies to /cwc/ as well. But if the /cwc/ people wish to repost the godawful drawings, that's ''their'' headache.) The only real effect the thread has had on me, personally, is that I've tried to objectively evaluate some of the things that actually ''do'' suck: I mopped my user page of the rambling and put it in subpages, replaced some of the drawings on my home page (damn, those were old and awful) and I have to rethink the promotion strategies for my webcomic, since that is obviously not working. I still stand by the security concerns, but if Champ and Cogs don't think it's an issue, then I promise to not use the block/delete tools for anything heinous, as was the case before. =) --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-size:smaller;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 14:02, 30 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Trouble in Asperpedia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've just gotten confirmation that the recent confusion in Asperpedia is being caused by vandals [http://hsienko.com/asperchu/index.php?title=User_talk:IsabelMonday#HI_GOD_MORNING]. Now I know you've got no power over at Asperpedia, but if they've taken the admin accounts there's nothing they can really do, and I was hoping you might have connections with someone who could help take the site back. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:02, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Mao is a [[Wikipedia:trickster|trickster]], beware of his cunning. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:03, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**Well if it's a trick, its still pissing me off. I just made a project proposal to him and he answers by deleting all the fan content. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:05, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*Have you considered the possibility he is TROLLING YOU BACK? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:07, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::*Not if he was destroying everyone else's fan content. That's just too extreme for trolling one person. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:09, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::* Admins can undelete deleted content so it could be an elaborate troll. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 18:35, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::* I'm aware of that, in fact my first thought was that Mao was taking a piss all over me, until I saw he was deleting the entire fan portal and not just my content. I'll just have to wait and see what happens. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:36, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::*Wait, your telling me that this is the actual Mao doing this? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:01, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
As Champ said, you cannot rule that possibility out knowing Mao's traits. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 19:04, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, but I never thought Mao would do something like this. This is extreme even for him. And he's deleting Asperchu too. And he's talking about /b/ and people's passwords. And the toher admins are acting like that too. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:06, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::* He set his password to '''password''' (no, seriously) and some asshat got in his account. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 19:47, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::** *Facepalm* --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:57, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think we should start looking at temporary bans for user who continue to use article talk pages for personal discussion. It's out of control. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 03:19, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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* He edited his page to change someone's comment to something compromising. When I called him out on it, he did that to me too, and then faked my signature on another compromising comment. Then again, I &amp;quot;had it coming&amp;quot; as you said. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 03:24, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I don't like being involved in others peoples' problems but Delabonte is abusing his power while being hypocritical. look at the history in his talk page.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 03:50, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Delabonte is neither a jerkop or admin, he has no real powers aside from being here for a while. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:54, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*I don't like it either.  Not that I disapprove of the Not a Forum template--those are prefectly justified on any non-user talk page.  There's usually a thread over on the appropriate channels anyway, so it's not like it's a big deal.  I just don't understand why it should apply to user talk pages.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:04, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I was talking about '''article''' talk pages, not '''user''' talk pages, but out of respect for 16BitAlex I have removed the offending article from the talk page and put it on my userpage. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 04:05, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Partly my fault for not reading fully. But, if it was truly out of respect you would have removed the &amp;quot;offending article&amp;quot;. You are right on Not A Forum for ''article'' talk pages. If only there was a forum that CWCki users could use. In fact, there ''was'', until the powers that be at a certain private forum thought that a public forum was a bad idea. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 04:22, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::when i said abusing your power i didn't mean the &amp;quot;NOT a forum thing&amp;quot;. i understand my mistake regarding that. what i meant was the editing anonymax's and 16alex's comments on your usertalk after you told alex he could not delete the vandalism from his userpage.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 04:40, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*Dudes, there's still [[Krapple|/cwc/]] and [[EDF]] (if you're totally desperate). Fuck, you can make your own forum, just don't go about declaring how you're gonna rip stuff off from PVCC or try to overtake PVCC. Fuck, hang out in [[Sonichu (IRC)|#sonichu]] and they'll let you in PVCC if you're not a faggot. Point is, CWCki isn't the place for this sort of talk - it's distracting and there's better places to do this. &lt;br /&gt;
::I mildly tolerate it since once people get warned, they (usually) tend to start and it's hard to keep track of repeat offenders. I think I've temporarily banned someone who was a repeat offender once but as I said, it's hard to keep track of people who do that sort of shit over again. &lt;br /&gt;
::I really haven't seen this as a huge problem on article talk pages, and in the past I have threatened bans for trivial discussing that was getting out of control but for one or two people commenting I can sorta deal with. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:54, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Champ, I think you should look into Delabonte again. I tried warning him about not starting a flame war, but he just started vandalizing other people's comments on his talk page. This kind of behavior isn't tolerated here. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 13:08, 25 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Cogs has spoken to me, the issue has been resolved. As usual, in her favour. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 14:47, 25 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==I just counted==&lt;br /&gt;
For some reason, I'm doing this lately. You have, as of this writing, made 8925 edits to the CWCki, based on your contributions page. No joke. Thought you ought to know. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 00:29, 29 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*1) that's because I'm an admin, 2) most of my admins are me failing to preview and tiny shit 3) mostly talk page edits. Fun fact - my user page is the most linked page on CWCki because I comment on like every talk page. But yeah, I spend way too much time here. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:32, 29 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Yo ==&lt;br /&gt;
Champ! Do us all a favour and ban JESUS would you? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:57, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== You said to direct questions to you. So... ==&lt;br /&gt;
How in the fuck is that Coffee Place article a confirmed CWC sighting? Where in that photo is Chris or Bob, because I can't see shit? What does any of the text have to do with Chris or any sighting of any kind for that matter? Why does Clyde believe it's a confirmed CWC sighting? What evidence have we got? And why are you and Clyde so certain that this user's word alone can be trusted to the point of threatening bans for questioning them, when they haven't really given us any real proof of anything? &lt;br /&gt;
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I really, really, REALLY hope that i'm just retarded and missing something obvious, because this makes NO sense to me whatsoever. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 02:03, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:shut the fuck up edward [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 02:06, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*To clarify, I'll be glad to address any questions on a one-on-one basis in IRC or via AIM.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:07, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**I've also got a question I need to ask you in IRC.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 02:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I can't use IRC. My computer fucks up whenever I try, and believe me I have tried. Why am I never allowed an actual answer when I ask a question? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 12:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*You are thicker than liquid cement, Edward. Email me at origins.intervention@null.net so I can enlighten you.  --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 16:11, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*It's not sending. I keep trying to send a message and I keep getting a notification email telling me that they couldn't send it for some reason. Are you sure that's the right email address? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:30, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**Can I cover this, Champ?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 17:52, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*Go ahead, or Jump is sure to enlighten you as well, Edward.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:58, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
***Try my alterate, the.new.chemical@gmail.com --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 18:32, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I did actually maange to get a message through to Jump's alternate account. I'm waiting for his response right now. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:00, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Everything's sorted now. Thanks again Jump. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:54, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== irc ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Yo, Champ, I'm trying to join #sonichu but I get a message that says the hostname could not be resolved, and when I do get in, it says I have to identify a registered name. I'm using Mibbit and I already have an account there, and whenever I use the link at our Mibbit article, there's no one on. What am I doing wrong? Sorry for being a total newfag.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; nevermind, sorry for annoying you-[[User:Hiiro|Hiiro]] 17:08, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ban me==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm evading a permaban. Jesus Christ. Do your fucking job, sandnigger.--[[User:JerryMathers|JerryMathers]] 00:03, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== We need some clarification ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On the community portal you said &amp;quot;do not interfere with Jenkins&amp;quot; which I simply took to mean &amp;quot;do not fuck with him&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;let him work on his report unimpeded.&amp;quot; Delabonte, on the other hand, claims you meant zero communication and is putting up some userbox on everyone's page who posted on his talk page. All I did was point him to he userbox list after someone suggested it to him. Could you please clarify for everyone's sake what you specifically meant?&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, I think the 'fuckwit alert' box is unwarranted; seriously, why would the PVCC care about a harmless mistake, let alone monitor such 'criminals'? And if I really had broken your rule, me and the other users would have been banned by now, wouldn't we? Some of those comments had already been put up for days without incident. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 04:49, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I took it to mean &amp;quot;Don't do anything that doesn't appear to be approved&amp;quot;.  I followed that to the letter and I intend to follow the proper instructions now that I've been notified.  However, I think the userbox was an overreaction.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 05:16, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think your userboxes are very fitting and you wear them well. [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 05:55, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*As we want Jenkins to keep up the good work, the idea is more of the former - to not hinder his work, i.e. not to post too many praises on his talk page. I'm not sure what's been going on as I've been out the past two days or so, but I'm guessing people may have lost control and completely praised Jenkins, especially for getting a seinor cheerleader. I can understand where Delabonte is coming from but srsly, don't be a dumbass when it comes to this sort of thing.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Regarding the 'Relics of fail' items.==&lt;br /&gt;
Right now, out of 26 different relics, a total of 10 of them have the suffix &amp;quot;of fail&amp;quot;. I think that the 'of fail' tag on the end of many of the items is a bit stale. Not only does it make them all seem generic and without personality, but 'of fail' just seems kind of juvenile. I'd like to start a vote to change the majority of the names to give them more flair, so they stand out more. Talked about it in IRC a few nights ago, and the consensus seemed to agree. One of the names thrown around was to change &amp;quot;Plush Boobs of Fail&amp;quot; into something along the lines of &amp;quot;Plush Boobs of Repressed Sexuality.&amp;quot; Give them names that indicate their use, descriptors that tell you about the item before you even read about it. &amp;quot;Pokewalker of Sloth&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Pokewalker of Inactivity&amp;quot;. Even if the 'of fail' tag is supposed to indicate that Chris created it himself, there's no reason for the Plush Boobs and Sailor Moon Poster to have it included. Let me know what you think. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 06:55, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I concur with Brofose. Fail has become a bit of a lame old meme, and while it is one of the most apt words to describe anything about CWC, I believe the Relics would do well to be assigned new titles. [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 07:08, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don't really mind the &amp;quot;of fail&amp;quot; but I wouldn't miss it either.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 12:30, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think this sounds like a pretty good idea. Perhaps we should consider some kind of formal way to do this. Like, we could have something in the community portal for users to suggest new suffixes, then from those like 5 favorites are picked out and a poll is taken for the new suffix. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 22:00, 14 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for pointing that out. Also, I'd like to talk to you about something regarding some recent edits. [[User:CrassCrab|CrassCrab]] 19:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Welcome Template ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The welcome template no longer requires any parameters - but it works better if substituted. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 02:05, 15 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== My jerkop status ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A week ago, Cogs temporarily removed my jerkop status (for deleting [[Template:UnderWatch|this]] template), but said I could ask you to give it back to me after a week or so [[User_talk:Cogsdev#About_deleting_that_template|here]]. So now I'm just asking you if I can have it back, please.--[[User:Jerkop|Jerkop]] 17:55, 19 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIR==&lt;br /&gt;
I have been away for a while.  I have come back to be a serious editor again.  I was looking through the to-do list with every intent of starting to crack down on transcribing Mumbles... then I saw an interesting tidbit.  It still says that images should be limited to 150kb.  Is this truly the case?  Because the upload screen says keep it to 7mb.  If 150kb is really the case, then perhaps I should go on another resize campaign.  I am up for it, I have time.  I am asking you sir, if this is where I should focus my efforts.  Tell me and I will get started right away. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 14:05, 20 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*The 150 kb thing isn't so much important nowadays since we have the new space and space isn't quite as limited, not to mention people are doing a good job at not uploading huge ass images. Transcribing Mumble chats would probably be a more worthwhile and rewarding en devour though, IMHO. Godspeed to you.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:56, 20 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Roger that, I'm on it... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 18:16, 20 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sonichu TAS transcripts ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it be alright to upload transcripts from the animated Sonichu series? [[User:CosmicFeeling|CosmicFeeling]] 19:29, 3 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Oedipus confirmation?==&lt;br /&gt;
:Yo Champ, could you pop over to Snorlax's talk page?  I sourced a quote about one of Chris's more disturbing habits-- sleeping in his mother's arms-- which apparently came from you.  I don't want to put it on Snorlax's page until we get a confirmation that it's accurate, so if you could verify that before it goes out there, I would be in your debt.  Thanks, man. [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 20:52, 26 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for protecting my user and talk pages. It helps me a lot because I'm trying to get a fresh start here after the fiasco that happened nearly 2 weeks ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Warning: This page is 37 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections. —''automated warning on editing the Autism page''&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm willing and would actually kind of like to rewrite the whole &amp;quot;Chris's symptoms&amp;quot; section into its own page with or without a list format. The bulk of what interests me as an autistic about Chris is his symptoms, his utter lack of insight into them, how they affect his life, what others can learn from that, and so on. Frankly, I know dick about Wiki writing and the culture that surrounds it, but I realize that I'm kind of a peon around here, that not everyone agrees with me on certain things, and that what I wrote would be subject to editing like anything else. It would shorten this article if nothing else. #sonichu suggested just paring down the section, which is actually kind of against what I personally feel is all of what can be taken away from this whole endeavor other than &amp;quot;lol wut a fag,&amp;quot; so just as a heads-up, basically I'm just going to start blanking random articles until I get permabanned if that happens.&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyway, let me know! —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 14:12, 3 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Counting the Sighs ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I noticed you suggested counting every one of Chris' sighs in the discussion page for [[Stress sigh]]. I was contemplating that myself; would you still be up for it? It would be a relatively large-scale undertaking but if we split the videos into chunks and had everyone pitch in to count five or ten videos it'd be done in no time. Afterwards a counter could be added to the front page, and we'd only need to update it whenever Chris released a new video. Plus we could throw a sigh count into all the video pages. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 21:10, 5 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Jerkop==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Champ, I's humbly  submit myself for the jerkop position. I'll understand if the answer is no, I'll just keep doing my thing. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 22:10, 8 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Grats Crass. Keeping on doing my thing... --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 18:13, 9 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I wish to be a jerkop ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I humbly submit my request to be a jerkop. However, I dunno if I can be one with all my previous faggotry between us (CWCki) and /cwc/.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you need further contact, email me. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 16:53, 11 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*yeah, you can't --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 17:41, 11 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:* k, gotcha [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 18:02, 11 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Talk to me.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Archive:''' [[User:Champthom/Archive 1|1]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 2|2]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 3|3]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 4|4]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Upload page==&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you sir, your change is much appreciated. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 12:43, 20 December 2009 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sonichu Franchise Games==&lt;br /&gt;
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How about this:  [[User:Dude/Sonichu_Franchise_Games]]&lt;br /&gt;
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...replace these:&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sonichu (game)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John's Custom Gundam: Sisterly Rescue]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Pokémon:_Lightning_Version]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sonichu_Adventure]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sonichu_Advance]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[EX-CWC]]&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Dude|Dude]] 05:47, 22 December 2009 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Chris's First Interview==&lt;br /&gt;
I noticed on [[Talk:Chris-chan_Discusses...]] you asked for someone to mirror Chris's first interview on Youtube. I know that was a while back, &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;but as far as I can tell no one has actually done it yet&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;, so I went ahead and did it for you [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U-4Mvc5LbM]. I hope you're pleased. --[[User:That Man|That Man]] 23:10, 27 December 2009 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
*just noticed a while ago that it's aleardy been uploaded by The CWCville Library. I have no clue how I was so oblivious to that. --[[User:That Man|That Man]] 03:26, 28 December 2009 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
:*I didn't notice this either, thank you for telling me about this though and I appreciate your effort anyways.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Also can't seem to find it on the CWCvilleLibrary...could you possibly post a link?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:49, 28 December 2009 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Thanks, Champthom==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;:)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; --[[User:GokuGetEm|GokuGetEm]] 09:53, 31 December 2009 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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==New Hotness for Videos==&lt;br /&gt;
Take a look at this template for videos that [[User:NeoShadow]] made; it's really sweet.  It can wrap around videos (in the middle of the page, where they are now) or it can be used as a sidebar.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Template:  [[Template:Infobox/video]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*Centered example:  [[User:Neoshadow/sandbox/Sonic_Sweepstakes]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*Sidebar example:  [[User:Neoshadow/sandbox/Sonic_Sweepstakes2]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thoughts?  It's been on the [[CWCki:Priority_Listing|to do list]] for a while now, and we could get one or the other in place pretty quickly.  The big question is which placement to use, and general style questions vis-a-vis the way it looks.  Let us know!  --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 09:43, 3 January 2010 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
*I really like it, but there was some debate (I need to see where) over the usage of video infoboxes, as some people argued it's unnecessarily replicates information one can gleam from the article. However, I think your centered example might solve that as this is ultimately what we can use to replace just pasting the video in Video sections of articles. I think the &amp;quot;Made by&amp;quot; would be useless in 99% of situations (with the very few videos made by other people, such as the Watch and Win one, or the videos by Scarlet). Personally I like your infoboxes, but I'm not sure if everyone else likes it elsewhere.&lt;br /&gt;
:Best I'd do is mention this in the [[CWCki:Community_Portal|community portal]]. As I said, I think your centered example might be very useful and a nicer display than just a YouTube video in the video section. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:11, 3 January 2010 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
*This add-on is useless and redundant if you ask me. There's nothing new here you can't read in the introduction of the video, in the video navigation bar and I don't see the need for the &amp;quot;Festive&amp;quot; icons. I respect the efforts but I am a K.I.S.S.-Type of guy. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 15:02, 3 January 2010 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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==IMPOSTORS==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Champ, this is the &amp;quot;dude&amp;quot; from the old CWCki... somebody claimed my nick in the three hours between Cogs fixing the captcha and me checking back in =(  Is there anything we can do about this?  I can still log into the old CWCki to prove my TRUTH and HONESTY, and I used the same email signing up here (this account) and there (the old &amp;quot;dude&amp;quot;).  --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 05:12, 4 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I'll consult with Cogs later tonight, as I'm not sure if we can kick this other &amp;quot;Dude&amp;quot; off and have you have his nickname, especially given that it's an extremely generic name someone could have chosen (like Anonymous or Nobody or some name like that) or if we can do this, if it is right in doing so. Now I am concerned that people might try to leech off the fame of others by signing up for accounts of previous CWCki users, either to jump start their e-fame or as a way of trolling, so I'll need a second opinion. If anyone wants to weigh in on the matter, by all means do so. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 10:57, 4 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**Yeah, it's pretty generic, but at the same time, I only signed up around October, so it wasn't generic enough to be taken by then.  I am kind of surprised that somebody snapped it up so quickly, since I was pretty actively trying to get it back myself.  I suppose it could be innocent, but it's still kind of frustrating.  Thanks for looking into it.  --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 14:52, 4 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
can you give him the account back. i didn't know. i didnt think dude was gona be available, i though i got lucky. didnt mean to steal it, ill make another one [[User:Dude|Dude]] 00:26, 5 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*No problem Dude (see what I did there?). Okay, here's how this will go down - new Dude, when you get a new account, AIM or message me in IRC when you do. I will merge your current account into your new one. That will free up the username &amp;quot;Dude&amp;quot; and old Dude can register that way. rpoblem oslved. If there's any problems, you guys let me know because then I have to resort to Plan B. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:36, 5 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*New [[User:Dude|Dude]] has been [[Special:Contributions/Dude|inactive]] for about a week now... can I get my account back? --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 17:49, 9 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*The new Dude needs to contact me so I can merge his old account into the new one, thus freeing up &amp;quot;Dude.&amp;quot; If he doesn't respond in 24 hours or so, then contact me and I'll reset the password and give it over to you. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:57, 10 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I'll not take this treachery sitting down! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You dare claim superiority over my powers as a great and terrifying wizard!?  You shall soon see the error of your ways, good sir Champthom.  I am a vengeful spellcaster, and I will rape you furiously in your sleep. [[User:Artiph|Artiph the Destroyer, Omniscient Archmage, bearer of the Grimoire of Destruction,  whose powers by and large surpass that of the Great Wizard CrassCrab, Lord of the Seven Realm and Master of the Archane Black Arts of the Eleventh Trans-Dimensional Vortex]] 11:03, 4 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sup==&lt;br /&gt;
Have a job for me?  You told me to get in touch... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 19:38, 7 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Well I was going to ask you to help upload images but people got onto that which is good.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:57, 7 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Coolio.  On Another note, don't bother restoring my Jerkop status.  I don't need it now seeing as how images have a MUCH higher ceiling.  I'll stick around to improve articles and help people with images if they need it.  --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 10:02, 8 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==SPECIAL MISSION==&lt;br /&gt;
I accept.  Should I simply sign up for an account on Asperpedia and get started or what? --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 09:19, 12 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Yeah, do that - sign up for an Asperpedia account and go zap to the extreme. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:17, 12 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Just to let you know==&lt;br /&gt;
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There's a new user who registered under the name ChristianWestonChandler. I am watching this account since it came online. I just don't get a good feeling about this. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 07:00, 18 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Apologies==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you for fixing that mistake, that was the first time I added a template so I really am horrible at it. --[[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 5:05 20 January 2010 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Chris's resume ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Would you please be so kind as to move this to [[Chris's résumé]] for the sake of more accurate spelling, and to satisfy the grammar nazi in me? If you don't know how to make the fancy és, just copy and paste mine. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 04:22, 31 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Also, please to be deleting [[Chris and fame]]. Broken redirect. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 20:15, 31 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A new Mailbag bombing==&lt;br /&gt;
Well, our dear Christian has now started giving a copy paste reply as his new method of rejection. And hes done it to Mike Jackson's widow. We had a quick discussion about that in the talk page, and we thought it'd be an idea for another mailbag thats just filled entirely with letters about this one subject. Like how we had a whole mailbag asking about Asperchu and stuff like that? I thought we could have another of those; Only this time have an entire mailbag of people calling him out for being such a prick and for still not properly ansewing letters. What do you think Champ? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 18:59, 15 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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* To amend that idea, I suggest having Sysop inform him of another pending legal issue that can only be averted if he gives full replies to each email--he can't use the &amp;quot;Inputed&amp;quot; response or delete the whole thing and replace it with a general response or else the site goes down again or something.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 19:32, 15 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Agreed. We need some sort of cover from him rejecting it in any way. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:56, 15 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Politics]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please to be deleting. Broken redirect. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 01:11, 24 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sandy Rosechu ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Any idea why [[Sandy Rosechu]] is showing up in [[:Category:Templates]]? [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 22:17, 25 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Fixed it.  The Squote template didn't have noinclude wrapped around its category. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:21, 25 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**That was my fault. --[[User:Mikhail Faulken|Mikhail Faulken]] 22:24, 25 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== halp ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yo [[Scampers|Champers]], could you derete this page here: http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/Template:Christory/March_07 ? It will be confus if it doesn't turn up as a red link. Sorry for mistake. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 15:00, 27 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== YO! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Champ old boy, do you have sauce on [[:File:CWCinDailyProgressJuly142007.jpg|this]] here sniplet? It must have slipped right past me, and now I want to know what it is! [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 02:09, 28 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Jerkops Anonymous==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, Champthom. I've been in the mood to move a page or two recently, but my jerkop privileges were abolished with the move to CWCki 2.0. Would you mind reinstating them? [[User:Llort|Llort]] 03:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cole Smithey ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Don't you think an edit like [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Z_%28film%29&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=344566166 this] seems too intentional to be an impostor? Never mind 30+ edits to the Cole Smithey article? [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 18:13, 7 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==Re: Pic of Wallflower==&lt;br /&gt;
Is this ok? It was shopped and It looks less like a man &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ClydeandLovelyweather.jpg|thumb|right]]&lt;br /&gt;
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-[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 04:02, 15 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Posse == &lt;br /&gt;
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Champ, I don't know if you still need monitors, but I have no life and lurk on the CWCki pretty much all day. Hit me up if you need me. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 04:06, 16 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*NO U. Srsly, contact me on AIM or IRC tonight. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:07, 16 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Summaries==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, so I will check. I've started trying to sort and format the summaries for each of the Mumbles, and it's March Mumble Madness, but I seem to have contradicted instructions (as I discovered having worked on ALL of them), by listing rather than writing a narrative. What is it you want exactly, so I can get on it ASAP. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 04:11, 18 March 2010 (UTC)22:40, 17 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Article of the Now==&lt;br /&gt;
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You wanted some sort of template to denote former articles of the now? [[Template:Articleofthenow|How's this?]] --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 19:58, 20 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Clyde already made something, just need to incorporate it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:06, 20 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Late to the party again. Never mind --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 20:23, 20 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== List of Chris' lies ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, I trust your judgment on this. Wasn't sure if cleanup or deletion was the better solution and it looks like I chose wrong. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 20:36, 21 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Quality Control jerkops ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, I saw your comment re &amp;quot;Quality Control&amp;quot; jerkops, of which none seem to be active at this point. I think I could handle that. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 21:12, 21 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Champ old boy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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People want to update [[Fan:Sonichu: The Animated Series]], could you unlock it for a while? [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 09:12, 23 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Userboxes ==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it cool for users to make new rewards\userboxes, like the Grammar Nazi and Assburgers ones, for instance? Some wikis I've edited on don't like for you to make new ones due to space or whatnot, and others let you go crazy with it. Just want to check beforehand. [[User:BubblegumPinkButler|BubblegumPinkButler]] 03:22, 29 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Yeah, it's alright, just don't go too crazy by making a kajillion of them. Some of the useboxes, like the Jerkop, Admin, etc. are obviously protected and it's poor taste to award yourself awards like the Order of the Pickle, etc. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:44, 29 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==April Fool's Day==&lt;br /&gt;
Since its going to be april fools day when the ultimatum expires why dont we just shut down for 1 day and let chris think he's won.&lt;br /&gt;
I mean worst that can happpen is he forgets about us, or the best is that he actually makes a &amp;quot;victory over cwcki&amp;quot; vid.&lt;br /&gt;
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and then bring it back on the 2nd with a big fuck you chris&lt;br /&gt;
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user: DKD 15.13 GMT 31.3.10&lt;br /&gt;
* No.  That's stupid.  Chris will make a &amp;quot;HA HA I GOT U TROLLS&amp;quot; video and quit paying attention to us because he thinks we are gone.  If we stay up, we will have our own FUCK YOU CHRIS simply because we're not down.  This will make Chris angry, and angry Chris is funny.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 14:18, 31 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Never compromise, even in the face of &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;Armageddon&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; April Fool's Day. Also, in the future, make a sub heading (it's two equal signs, then your text, followed by two equal signs). --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:32, 31 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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This makes me worry now. What if Chris is pulling a long, convoluted April Fools prank, possibly the idea of a white knight? --[[User:Zehnfragezeichen|Zehnfragezeichen]] 16:18, 31 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Don't be silly. The only White Knight who he listens to is Rocky, and even then, only just barely. And whats the chances that a church counsellor is going to come troll us? I think we're safe. Its almost certain that his plan consists of 'blank pages' and 'try to find and stab the webmaster' --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:32, 31 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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How bout we say that both bob and snorlax are dead, and put 14 Branchland Court up for sale? {{unsigned|Dan Dash}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Please, for the love of God, sign your comments. It's four tildas (~) in a row. I'm tempted to start banning people (albeit temporarily) for those who can't learn how to sign their fucking posts. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:28, 31 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*Champ's got the rage. Dan, would that actually get to Chris? Seems to me it wouldn't bother him that much. Also seems he's making himself trollproof by becoming detached from us. Thoughts? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 23:04, 31 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:**He's not trollproofing himself at all, he's just fighting the urge to go online and complain about things.  This is exactly like when we got him to make the comic--he was really diligent about it and when he missed a day he usually made up by posting two comics on the next.  Flash forward two months and he's only releasing it in short bursts.  He'll be back on his own in that time--less if he thinks Sonichu is being threatened.  I suggest that someone put up an ad on CWCipedia that states that Chris has declared all Asperpedia comics cannon within the Sonichuverse.  Or something about how Chris risks losing the &amp;quot;copyright&amp;quot; if he doesn't make visible use of it for more than two months.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 23:14, 31 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::*I'm not sure, he didn't even seem too angry when he discovered the Cwcipedia was devastated (now THAT would've been an April Fool's Day joke).  Could it be that he's becoming numb to it?  We've done almost everything we can to slander him, his family, and Sonichu.  We've set up &amp;quot;sweethearts&amp;quot; toyed with him and, albeit inadvertently, brought about the end of his last IRL gal-pal.  We sent the health department to his house, without effect, and have parodied Sonichu and Chris himself.  What else CAN we do to this guy? --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 23:17, 31 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::**We didn't call the health department on him and he never learns from his mistakes.  We do it again and again.  He's not getting desensitized at all, actually.  We know most of his buttons now, we've just got to know when to push them.  Oh, and every now and then Chris will do something to troll himself, and that's always worth a laugh.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 23:27, 31 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*** But it's getting kind of cyclical, Chris gets a new sweetheart, he get's in love mood, phone calls are leaked, get lulzy videos and then, someone manages to anger him, he spews some death threats, then the sweetheart leaves/reveals as troll/dies and then we have sulk Chris, then he completely forgets about it and we have the smug Chris, and in between all that  he makes a rant video once in a while. Pretty much we have seen everything chris has to offer for trolling.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 04:26, 1 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==General question==&lt;br /&gt;
Alright so Im a massive newfag here, and I'm wondering how do I create those tags on your pages? For example the eurofag and amerifag stuff. Can I create my own and upload them onto my user page?&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Dkd|Dkd]] 23:55, 31 March 2010 (UTC)DKD 00:54 GMT 01.04.10&lt;br /&gt;
Templates.--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 03:20, 1 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Contact me ASAP&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What's going on? --[[User:Jerkop|Jerkop]] 03:59, 1 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Contact me privately. My info is on my use page, we can't discuss this openly. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:25, 1 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I've tried to contact you through AIM before, but because I'm a cheapskate who can't use Windows software, I suspect AIM didn't work too well on my end. I'm now in IRC too. I hope this works better. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-size:smaller;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 10:36, 1 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==CWC superstar==&lt;br /&gt;
Which Chris video did you get mentioned in?&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Dkd|Dkd]] 12:55, 3 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bunny Hop|PYONG PYONG PYONG! HOPPY EASTER FOR]] [[Crass and Champ|CRASS AND '''CHAMP''']]. Technically he's referring to the crab named after me, so there should be an asterisk. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:24, 6 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Artist for hire==&lt;br /&gt;
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I would be pleased to help by uploading pictures on the CWCki. The problem is that I don't know where to start. There was a page with the needing drawings but it wasn't updated in quite a while. &lt;br /&gt;
I talked to Cogsdev on the irc #sonichu and was referred to you. I'm not new to the Cwcki, but I only registered only today. &lt;br /&gt;
Here's an example of what I can do, if it's good enough:&lt;br /&gt;
http://cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:Sonee_2.jpg --[[User:Blacksky01|Blacksky01]] 23:10, 13 april 2010&lt;br /&gt;
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*I'd say that the [[Artist Commune]] for requested images is still current, so you can still try there. I'd say that the [[Mumble]] chats could use illustrations, mostly of illustrations to go with notable quotes from the chat.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:29, 14 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Here's a pic for the IRC(16 october 2008) with 2 notable quotes from it. Since I'm not sure how to add it in a good way, I'll leave it to you.&lt;br /&gt;
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I hope it's good enough, I kinda messed up the pedo-glasse since it was done from memory.&lt;br /&gt;
Also, how can I link my signature to my userpage?--[[User:Blacksky01|Blacksky01]] 13:44, 19 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Here's another one, this time for the IRC (20 January 2009).&lt;br /&gt;
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I tried doing the pedo glasses right this time. I'll leave this to you. Also, thanks for the edit Beat.--[[User:Blacksky01|Blacksky01]] 22:58, 19 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Transcription Category ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What are your views on a category for all articles containing transcriptions? It would make them easier to locate for maintenance or general interest IMO. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 22:42, 17 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question About Templates ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, I recently uploaded the 4 templates [[Template:Observer|Observer]], [[Template:Warrior|Warrior]], [[Template:Hero|Hero]], and [[Template:Legend|Legend]]. I was wondering what I should do with them( I'm not the best at using Wikis). Should I move them somewhere, edit them, etc.? Also, since you deleted two of the category pages, I was wondering if I should restore those or delete the other two. Sorry if there are any problems. --[[User:Alcoholic Legend|Alcoholic Legend]] 03:10, 18 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Oh, also, just wanted to tell ya that I restored the two category pages for now (now all 4 are up instead of just 2/4). If you want me to change/move anything, I'll gladly do it. Just tell me what to do and I'll get it done. : ) --[[User:Alcoholic Legend|Alcoholic Legend]] 06:14, 18 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Old Cats ==&lt;br /&gt;
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As part of a revamp of userboxes and their categories, there's a lot of now [[Special:UnusedCategories|unused categories prefixed with &amp;quot;List of&amp;quot;]] that need to be deleted forever. Can you fix? --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 05:16, 26 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:There's a few more List of... categories that need nuking. You might have just got hand cramp or something :) --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:21, 26 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*[[THAT IS MY HOUSE|I'M WORKIN ON IT!]].--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:10, 26 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deletion, moving and er, shit ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To do with the Twitter stuff. I remember you saying something about Jerkop powers not extending to moving/deletion. Can I? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 10:55, 28 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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On a related note, I made a mistake on an [[Bill Lumburg/Fan:Sonichu 11|article]] I created and I'm trying to move it to my Userspace. Can you help me with this? I don't see a move option anywhere so I'm assuming only admins can do it.  [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 03:58, 2 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Thanks for taking care of that. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 04:54, 2 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New Performance Style ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Made this and applied it to a few pages after discussion that in the latest video none of the templates reflected the performance style (unadulterated smugness). Probably should have run it by you before I added it to a load of videos, sorry about that. :(&lt;br /&gt;
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:The template has been named incorrectly (Should not have the .png). The icon doesn't seem to match the style of the others - most notably the eyes. And I personally still don't think comeuppance is the right name we should give the template, but that's just me. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 13:02, 8 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Video Template ==&lt;br /&gt;
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So I made a change to the video template last night which inserts a linked version of Chris's name on video templates when someone puts '''|maker= Chris'''. Do you think that since the template is intended for Chris videos, we can just make the maker default to displaying Chris's name and drop the |maker= line for most uses of the template - retaining the option to include it if we need to override it? I need to run this past someone before I start rolling it out.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh and I'm considering making the template parameters lowercase, as is common with templates. I could implement a way for the template to accept both while I transition each use of the template to use lowercase. Worth doing? (Some of the parameters are already lowercase - messy!) --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 21:31, 10 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==#sonichu ban/the stuff I was going to post==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Champ, any word on the issues we discussed? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:16, 12 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Thanks for reminding me, I asked canine and he was going to talk to cogs but never heard back. I'll check with her though, though tonight isn't the best night to do it (long story). --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:31, 12 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Not a problem mate, there's no rush. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 03:31, 12 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*Contact me ASAP, just need to clarify something. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:43, 12 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quick Question==&lt;br /&gt;
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Got something to ask you real quick. Will you be on AIM/IRC tomorrow? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:57, 15 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Actually I'm gonna be out of town, but I'll be back Monday night.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:48, 15 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Glass vs Glasses ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Wait what? Pretty sure glasses is what the majority of English speakers use when referring to a single pair of spectacles. It just looks stupid using &amp;quot;glass&amp;quot;. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:31, 17 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Uhh...Champ? ==&lt;br /&gt;
You deleted the Facial Recognition talk page but not the page itself. Just saying. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:35, 23 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A jerkop resignation letter ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It appears that my furry background is raising a stir in /cwc/, and some people don't want me to post there. It does, however, bring another thing in my mind. I'd ask you to remove my jerkop bit. There's two reasons for this: First, if ''not'' having furries in positions of power helps some of the trolls to sleep better in the night, this course of action would help them. Secondly - and this is a far, far bigger reason - I'm not actually ''using'' the block/delete powers much, and having an account that needlessly has such powers is obviously a computer security risk. I don't think losing those rights would affect me that much as CWCki editor; I'm more concerned about site security and user happiness. Respectfully, --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-size:smaller;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 16:32, 29 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I need to discuss this with Cogs first. I appreciate your selfless concern for the site but I'll be damned if /cwc/ tells me or Cogs how to run this site. What you do outside the CWCki is nobody's damn busy, to be honest. You are one of the finest CWCki editors we have, particularly because you have experience editing Wikipedia and I will not let you be intimidated by Internet fucktards at least on the CWCki. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:40, 29 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
** Understood. I just have to add that this is one of those &amp;quot;last nail in the coffin&amp;quot; type things; like I said, the security issue is, in my opinion, ''far'' more important than the troll reaction. I'm thinking of all that ruckus that was caused by the hacked sysop accounts in Wikipedia a year or two ago. So please, if a policy needs to be made, it should be made on the security grounds, not trolling grounds. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-size:smaller;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 17:47, 29 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*** I saw the thread on the /cwc/ you are referring to. In my humble opinion, you shouldn't give them any power over what you do. If you identify with a paticular group on the internet, it's not important. You seem to be an important editor to this fine Wiki, so having a bit of power can't be wrong in your case. The opinions expressed by the &amp;quot;members&amp;quot; of the /cwc&amp;quot; imageboard aren't worth anything on the CWCkie. Also, an hacking attemp on your account seems highly unlikely if you don't let any clues on your password. But it's only my opinion on the matter, it ain't worth all that much.--[[User:Blacksky01|Blacksky01]]&lt;br /&gt;
**** I know. The whole situation in the thread was ridiculous. Me making the teensy bit of a mistake of being a namefag (I knew the pain threshold was low, but ''sheesh''), people spamming the thread with the (admittedly awful) drawings I drew years ago. (Careful readers might know that I ''specifically'' made a promise not to &amp;quot;spread the cancer&amp;quot; here. It applies to /cwc/ as well. But if the /cwc/ people wish to repost the godawful drawings, that's ''their'' headache.) The only real effect the thread has had on me, personally, is that I've tried to objectively evaluate some of the things that actually ''do'' suck: I mopped my user page of the rambling and put it in subpages, replaced some of the drawings on my home page (damn, those were old and awful) and I have to rethink the promotion strategies for my webcomic, since that is obviously not working. I still stand by the security concerns, but if Champ and Cogs don't think it's an issue, then I promise to not use the block/delete tools for anything heinous, as was the case before. =) --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-size:smaller;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 14:02, 30 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Trouble in Asperpedia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've just gotten confirmation that the recent confusion in Asperpedia is being caused by vandals [http://hsienko.com/asperchu/index.php?title=User_talk:IsabelMonday#HI_GOD_MORNING]. Now I know you've got no power over at Asperpedia, but if they've taken the admin accounts there's nothing they can really do, and I was hoping you might have connections with someone who could help take the site back. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:02, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Mao is a [[Wikipedia:trickster|trickster]], beware of his cunning. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:03, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**Well if it's a trick, its still pissing me off. I just made a project proposal to him and he answers by deleting all the fan content. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:05, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*Have you considered the possibility he is TROLLING YOU BACK? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:07, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::*Not if he was destroying everyone else's fan content. That's just too extreme for trolling one person. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:09, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::* Admins can undelete deleted content so it could be an elaborate troll. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 18:35, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::* I'm aware of that, in fact my first thought was that Mao was taking a piss all over me, until I saw he was deleting the entire fan portal and not just my content. I'll just have to wait and see what happens. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:36, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::*Wait, your telling me that this is the actual Mao doing this? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:01, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
As Champ said, you cannot rule that possibility out knowing Mao's traits. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 19:04, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, but I never thought Mao would do something like this. This is extreme even for him. And he's deleting Asperchu too. And he's talking about /b/ and people's passwords. And the toher admins are acting like that too. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:06, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::* He set his password to '''password''' (no, seriously) and some asshat got in his account. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 19:47, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::** *Facepalm* --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:57, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Talk pages==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think we should start looking at temporary bans for user who continue to use article talk pages for personal discussion. It's out of control. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 03:19, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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* He edited his page to change someone's comment to something compromising. When I called him out on it, he did that to me too, and then faked my signature on another compromising comment. Then again, I &amp;quot;had it coming&amp;quot; as you said. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 03:24, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I don't like being involved in others peoples' problems but Delabonte is abusing his power while being hypocritical. look at the history in his talk page.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 03:50, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Delabonte is neither a jerkop or admin, he has no real powers aside from being here for a while. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:54, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*I don't like it either.  Not that I disapprove of the Not a Forum template--those are prefectly justified on any non-user talk page.  There's usually a thread over on the appropriate channels anyway, so it's not like it's a big deal.  I just don't understand why it should apply to user talk pages.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:04, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I was talking about '''article''' talk pages, not '''user''' talk pages, but out of respect for 16BitAlex I have removed the offending article from the talk page and put it on my userpage. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 04:05, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Partly my fault for not reading fully. But, if it was truly out of respect you would have removed the &amp;quot;offending article&amp;quot;. You are right on Not A Forum for ''article'' talk pages. If only there was a forum that CWCki users could use. In fact, there ''was'', until the powers that be at a certain private forum thought that a public forum was a bad idea. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 04:22, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::when i said abusing your power i didn't mean the &amp;quot;NOT a forum thing&amp;quot;. i understand my mistake regarding that. what i meant was the editing anonymax's and 16alex's comments on your usertalk after you told alex he could not delete the vandalism from his userpage.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 04:40, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*Dudes, there's still [[Krapple|/cwc/]] and [[EDF]] (if you're totally desperate). Fuck, you can make your own forum, just don't go about declaring how you're gonna rip stuff off from PVCC or try to overtake PVCC. Fuck, hang out in [[Sonichu (IRC)|#sonichu]] and they'll let you in PVCC if you're not a faggot. Point is, CWCki isn't the place for this sort of talk - it's distracting and there's better places to do this. &lt;br /&gt;
::I mildly tolerate it since once people get warned, they (usually) tend to start and it's hard to keep track of repeat offenders. I think I've temporarily banned someone who was a repeat offender once but as I said, it's hard to keep track of people who do that sort of shit over again. &lt;br /&gt;
::I really haven't seen this as a huge problem on article talk pages, and in the past I have threatened bans for trivial discussing that was getting out of control but for one or two people commenting I can sorta deal with. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:54, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Champ, I think you should look into Delabonte again. I tried warning him about not starting a flame war, but he just started vandalizing other people's comments on his talk page. This kind of behavior isn't tolerated here. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 13:08, 25 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Cogs has spoken to me, the issue has been resolved. As usual, in her favour. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 14:47, 25 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==I just counted==&lt;br /&gt;
For some reason, I'm doing this lately. You have, as of this writing, made 8925 edits to the CWCki, based on your contributions page. No joke. Thought you ought to know. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 00:29, 29 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*1) that's because I'm an admin, 2) most of my admins are me failing to preview and tiny shit 3) mostly talk page edits. Fun fact - my user page is the most linked page on CWCki because I comment on like every talk page. But yeah, I spend way too much time here. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:32, 29 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Yo ==&lt;br /&gt;
Champ! Do us all a favour and ban JESUS would you? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:57, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== You said to direct questions to you. So... ==&lt;br /&gt;
How in the fuck is that Coffee Place article a confirmed CWC sighting? Where in that photo is Chris or Bob, because I can't see shit? What does any of the text have to do with Chris or any sighting of any kind for that matter? Why does Clyde believe it's a confirmed CWC sighting? What evidence have we got? And why are you and Clyde so certain that this user's word alone can be trusted to the point of threatening bans for questioning them, when they haven't really given us any real proof of anything? &lt;br /&gt;
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I really, really, REALLY hope that i'm just retarded and missing something obvious, because this makes NO sense to me whatsoever. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 02:03, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:shut the fuck up edward [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 02:06, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*To clarify, I'll be glad to address any questions on a one-on-one basis in IRC or via AIM.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:07, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**I've also got a question I need to ask you in IRC.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 02:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I can't use IRC. My computer fucks up whenever I try, and believe me I have tried. Why am I never allowed an actual answer when I ask a question? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 12:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*You are thicker than liquid cement, Edward. Email me at origins.intervention@null.net so I can enlighten you.  --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 16:11, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*It's not sending. I keep trying to send a message and I keep getting a notification email telling me that they couldn't send it for some reason. Are you sure that's the right email address? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:30, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**Can I cover this, Champ?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 17:52, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*Go ahead, or Jump is sure to enlighten you as well, Edward.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:58, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
***Try my alterate, the.new.chemical@gmail.com --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 18:32, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I did actually maange to get a message through to Jump's alternate account. I'm waiting for his response right now. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:00, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Everything's sorted now. Thanks again Jump. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:54, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== irc ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Yo, Champ, I'm trying to join #sonichu but I get a message that says the hostname could not be resolved, and when I do get in, it says I have to identify a registered name. I'm using Mibbit and I already have an account there, and whenever I use the link at our Mibbit article, there's no one on. What am I doing wrong? Sorry for being a total newfag.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; nevermind, sorry for annoying you-[[User:Hiiro|Hiiro]] 17:08, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ban me==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm evading a permaban. Jesus Christ. Do your fucking job, sandnigger.--[[User:JerryMathers|JerryMathers]] 00:03, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== We need some clarification ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On the community portal you said &amp;quot;do not interfere with Jenkins&amp;quot; which I simply took to mean &amp;quot;do not fuck with him&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;let him work on his report unimpeded.&amp;quot; Delabonte, on the other hand, claims you meant zero communication and is putting up some userbox on everyone's page who posted on his talk page. All I did was point him to he userbox list after someone suggested it to him. Could you please clarify for everyone's sake what you specifically meant?&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, I think the 'fuckwit alert' box is unwarranted; seriously, why would the PVCC care about a harmless mistake, let alone monitor such 'criminals'? And if I really had broken your rule, me and the other users would have been banned by now, wouldn't we? Some of those comments had already been put up for days without incident. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 04:49, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I took it to mean &amp;quot;Don't do anything that doesn't appear to be approved&amp;quot;.  I followed that to the letter and I intend to follow the proper instructions now that I've been notified.  However, I think the userbox was an overreaction.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 05:16, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think your userboxes are very fitting and you wear them well. [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 05:55, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*As we want Jenkins to keep up the good work, the idea is more of the former - to not hinder his work, i.e. not to post too many praises on his talk page. I'm not sure what's been going on as I've been out the past two days or so, but I'm guessing people may have lost control and completely praised Jenkins, especially for getting a seinor cheerleader. I can understand where Delabonte is coming from but srsly, don't be a dumbass when it comes to this sort of thing.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Regarding the 'Relics of fail' items.==&lt;br /&gt;
Right now, out of 26 different relics, a total of 10 of them have the suffix &amp;quot;of fail&amp;quot;. I think that the 'of fail' tag on the end of many of the items is a bit stale. Not only does it make them all seem generic and without personality, but 'of fail' just seems kind of juvenile. I'd like to start a vote to change the majority of the names to give them more flair, so they stand out more. Talked about it in IRC a few nights ago, and the consensus seemed to agree. One of the names thrown around was to change &amp;quot;Plush Boobs of Fail&amp;quot; into something along the lines of &amp;quot;Plush Boobs of Repressed Sexuality.&amp;quot; Give them names that indicate their use, descriptors that tell you about the item before you even read about it. &amp;quot;Pokewalker of Sloth&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Pokewalker of Inactivity&amp;quot;. Even if the 'of fail' tag is supposed to indicate that Chris created it himself, there's no reason for the Plush Boobs and Sailor Moon Poster to have it included. Let me know what you think. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 06:55, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I concur with Brofose. Fail has become a bit of a lame old meme, and while it is one of the most apt words to describe anything about CWC, I believe the Relics would do well to be assigned new titles. [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 07:08, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don't really mind the &amp;quot;of fail&amp;quot; but I wouldn't miss it either.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 12:30, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think this sounds like a pretty good idea. Perhaps we should consider some kind of formal way to do this. Like, we could have something in the community portal for users to suggest new suffixes, then from those like 5 favorites are picked out and a poll is taken for the new suffix. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 22:00, 14 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for pointing that out. Also, I'd like to talk to you about something regarding some recent edits. [[User:CrassCrab|CrassCrab]] 19:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Welcome Template ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The welcome template no longer requires any parameters - but it works better if substituted. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 02:05, 15 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== My jerkop status ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A week ago, Cogs temporarily removed my jerkop status (for deleting [[Template:UnderWatch|this]] template), but said I could ask you to give it back to me after a week or so [[User_talk:Cogsdev#About_deleting_that_template|here]]. So now I'm just asking you if I can have it back, please.--[[User:Jerkop|Jerkop]] 17:55, 19 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIR==&lt;br /&gt;
I have been away for a while.  I have come back to be a serious editor again.  I was looking through the to-do list with every intent of starting to crack down on transcribing Mumbles... then I saw an interesting tidbit.  It still says that images should be limited to 150kb.  Is this truly the case?  Because the upload screen says keep it to 7mb.  If 150kb is really the case, then perhaps I should go on another resize campaign.  I am up for it, I have time.  I am asking you sir, if this is where I should focus my efforts.  Tell me and I will get started right away. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 14:05, 20 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*The 150 kb thing isn't so much important nowadays since we have the new space and space isn't quite as limited, not to mention people are doing a good job at not uploading huge ass images. Transcribing Mumble chats would probably be a more worthwhile and rewarding en devour though, IMHO. Godspeed to you.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:56, 20 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Roger that, I'm on it... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 18:16, 20 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sonichu TAS transcripts ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it be alright to upload transcripts from the animated Sonichu series? [[User:CosmicFeeling|CosmicFeeling]] 19:29, 3 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Oedipus confirmation?==&lt;br /&gt;
:Yo Champ, could you pop over to Snorlax's talk page?  I sourced a quote about one of Chris's more disturbing habits-- sleeping in his mother's arms-- which apparently came from you.  I don't want to put it on Snorlax's page until we get a confirmation that it's accurate, so if you could verify that before it goes out there, I would be in your debt.  Thanks, man. [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 20:52, 26 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hey ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for protecting my user and talk pages. It helps me a lot because I'm trying to get a fresh start here after the fiasco that happened nearly 2 weeks ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Autism]] page length, symptoms page?==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Warning: This page is 37 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections. —''automated warning on editing the Autism page''&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm willing and would actually kind of like to rewrite the whole &amp;quot;Chris's symptoms&amp;quot; section into its own page with or without a list format. The bulk of what interests me as an autistic about Chris is his symptoms, his utter lack of insight into them, how they affect his life, what others can learn from that, and so on. Frankly, I know dick about Wiki writing and the culture that surrounds it, but I realize that I'm kind of a peon around here, that not everyone agrees with me on certain things, and that what I wrote would be subject to editing like anything else. It would shorten this article if nothing else. #sonichu suggested just paring down the section, which is actually kind of against what I personally feel is all of what can be taken away from this whole endeavor other than &amp;quot;lol wut a fag,&amp;quot; so just as a heads-up, basically I'm just going to start blanking random articles until I get permabanned if that happens.&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyway, let me know! —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 14:12, 3 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Counting the Sighs ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I noticed you suggested counting every one of Chris' sighs in the discussion page for [[Stress sigh]]. I was contemplating that myself; would you still be up for it? It would be a relatively large-scale undertaking but if we split the videos into chunks and had everyone pitch in to count five or ten videos it'd be done in no time. Afterwards a counter could be added to the front page, and we'd only need to update it whenever Chris released a new video. Plus we could throw a sigh count into all the video pages. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 21:10, 5 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Jerkop==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Champ, I's humbly  submit myself for the jerkop position. I'll understand if the answer is no, I'll just keep doing my thing. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 22:10, 8 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Grats Crass. Keeping on doing my thing... --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 18:13, 9 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I wish to be a jerkop ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I humbly submit my request to be a jerkop. However, I dunno if I can be one with all my previous faggotry between us (CWCki) and /cwc/.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you need further contact, email me. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 16:53, 11 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*yeah, you can't --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 17:41, 11 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:* k, gotcha [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 18:02, 11 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
==Policy==&lt;br /&gt;
Talking isn’t always a bad thing though, I spoke to the management of the OOP forum PB kept branding as his personal army. It turns out that they really don’t want him involving the site and banned him after it was pointed out that he was claiming to act with the support of the forum(they aren’t a troll forum and don’t want to be framed as one). If that doesn’t outright stop him it should help in that he was using it to coordinate his raids with a handful of other users, who he can’t contact now, and won’t help him if it means getting banned. It should also make it evident to him that others don’t want his drama. So being proactive in contacting others can help sometimes.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 13:03, 13 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kei&amp;diff=113328</id>
		<title>User talk:Kei</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kei&amp;diff=113328"/>
		<updated>2010-09-12T23:43:32Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;i don't think his name is Andrew... i think it's some kid who pissed him off because of pokemanz or whatever and wants us to go after. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 16:23, 12 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'll leave it for the management to find that out. His forum posts do indicate that it's likely Andy(who says he's an asspie and feels some sort of kinship with Chris) and some other attention whore, just saying.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 16:28, 12 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kei&amp;diff=113327</id>
		<title>User talk:Kei</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kei&amp;diff=113327"/>
		<updated>2010-09-12T23:32:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;i don't think his name is Andrew... i think it's some kid who pissed him off because of pokemanz or whatever and wants us to go after. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 16:23, 12 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'll leave it for the management to find that out. His forum posts do indicate that it's likely Andy and some other attention whore, just saying.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 16:28, 12 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kei&amp;diff=113322</id>
		<title>User talk:Kei</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kei&amp;diff=113322"/>
		<updated>2010-09-12T23:28:23Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;i don't think his name is Andrew... i think it's some kid who pissed him off because of pokemanz or whatever and wants us to go after. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 16:23, 12 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'll leave it for the management to find that out.[[User:Kei|Kei]] 16:28, 12 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kei&amp;diff=113321</id>
		<title>User talk:Kei</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kei&amp;diff=113321"/>
		<updated>2010-09-12T23:28:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;i don't think his name is Andrew... i think it's some kid who pissed him off because of pokemanz or whatever and wants us to go after. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 16:23, 12 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I'll leave it for the management to find that out.[[User:Kei|Kei]] 16:28, 12 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=CWCki:General&amp;diff=113315</id>
		<title>CWCki:General</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=CWCki:General&amp;diff=113315"/>
		<updated>2010-09-12T23:23:25Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: Undo revision 113312 by Small African Child (talk)&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;__NEWSECTIONLINK__&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Community Portal}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[CWCki:General/Archive 1|Archive 1]]&lt;br /&gt;
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For discussion that doesn't fit into the other community pages - though do keep it related to the CWCki.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Da update is used for Chris updates...but what about other updates? ==&lt;br /&gt;
For example, I don't think the Lucas video game pictures should be on the update, but it should be noteworthy. Should it placed in da update or no? Also if you're wondering what pictures, I'M WORKING ON IT. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 21:33, 9 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Where should I stick the pictures? I uploaded them with Lucas commentary on them. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 12:42, 10 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think either the list of Chris's games article or the video games article.  Leaning towards the video games article, if only because the list article is already pretty damned huge. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 14:07, 10 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Image purge project ==&lt;br /&gt;
According to the Spongepedia (also hosted by dreamhost), 500 internal server error may be caused by TOO MANY IMAGES. In any case, I'm sick of seeing shitty images that do nothing to enhance articles as well. please tag images that are useless on their talk pages for deletion. kthx [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 20:45, 10 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Based on what you told me about the Spongebob wiki, their problem was also due to image size. Perhaps if we work on resizing images down to less than 30kb?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 13:34, 11 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Eh, the 500 errors are a configuration/setup issue. I highly doubt images are the root cause. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 13:44, 11 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, it's a general agreed consensus that the 500 internal server error is occurring more often nowadays. It has to do with an increasing amount of SOMETHING. I'm going by this only lead right now. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 19:09, 11 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I mostly get 500 errors on pages that are large - that is - the body of text is large. Images really seem to have a negligible effect on whether a page 500's for me or not. We should think carefully about whether going about an image purge will largely be a wasted effort and/or do more harm than good towards error fixing (generating more edits - which may also form part of the problem). --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 20:06, 11 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Overlooked interview? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A couple of weeks ago, I noticed on the talk page for [[Chris-chan_Discusses...]], the subject of a previous interview was brought up, and Champ said he didn't want to put it on until they had a youtube version for it. A year later, someone did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR_PrPHC2l0 The video doesn't have many views, and I don't believe it has an article for it. I'm not sure if any of this is relevant, but I wanted to draw attention to it in case it needs an article or some other mention.--[[User:Austin|Austin]] 06:03, 11 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Espanolic&amp;diff=113313</id>
		<title>User talk:Espanolic</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Espanolic&amp;diff=113313"/>
		<updated>2010-09-12T23:19:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Welcome to CWCki!-[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 04:59, 6 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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What I've done is very iwegal you know. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 08:25, 7 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=CWCki:General&amp;diff=113311</id>
		<title>CWCki:General</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=CWCki:General&amp;diff=113311"/>
		<updated>2010-09-12T23:16:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: Rv Andrew's cry for atention&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;__NEWSECTIONLINK__&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Community Portal}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[CWCki:General/Archive 1|Archive 1]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For discussion that doesn't fit into the other community pages - though do keep it related to the CWCki.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Da update is used for Chris updates...but what about other updates? ==&lt;br /&gt;
For example, I don't think the Lucas video game pictures should be on the update, but it should be noteworthy. Should it placed in da update or no? Also if you're wondering what pictures, I'M WORKING ON IT. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 21:33, 9 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Where should I stick the pictures? I uploaded them with Lucas commentary on them. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 12:42, 10 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think either the list of Chris's games article or the video games article.  Leaning towards the video games article, if only because the list article is already pretty damned huge. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 14:07, 10 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Image purge project ==&lt;br /&gt;
According to the Spongepedia (also hosted by dreamhost), 500 internal server error may be caused by TOO MANY IMAGES. In any case, I'm sick of seeing shitty images that do nothing to enhance articles as well. please tag images that are useless on their talk pages for deletion. kthx [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 20:45, 10 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Based on what you told me about the Spongebob wiki, their problem was also due to image size. Perhaps if we work on resizing images down to less than 30kb?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 13:34, 11 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Eh, the 500 errors are a configuration/setup issue. I highly doubt images are the root cause. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 13:44, 11 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, it's a general agreed consensus that the 500 internal server error is occurring more often nowadays. It has to do with an increasing amount of SOMETHING. I'm going by this only lead right now. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 19:09, 11 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I mostly get 500 errors on pages that are large - that is - the body of text is large. Images really seem to have a negligible effect on whether a page 500's for me or not. We should think carefully about whether going about an image purge will largely be a wasted effort and/or do more harm than good towards error fixing (generating more edits - which may also form part of the problem). --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 20:06, 11 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Overlooked interview? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A couple of weeks ago, I noticed on the talk page for [[Chris-chan_Discusses...]], the subject of a previous interview was brought up, and Champ said he didn't want to put it on until they had a youtube version for it. A year later, someone did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR_PrPHC2l0 The video doesn't have many views, and I don't believe it has an article for it. I'm not sure if any of this is relevant, but I wanted to draw attention to it in case it needs an article or some other mention.--[[User:Austin|Austin]] 06:03, 11 September 2010 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:EXCLUSIVE_Manchester_High_School_2000_Reunion_Required_NOW&amp;diff=110737</id>
		<title>Talk:EXCLUSIVE Manchester High School 2000 Reunion Required NOW</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:EXCLUSIVE_Manchester_High_School_2000_Reunion_Required_NOW&amp;diff=110737"/>
		<updated>2010-08-27T19:05:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: /* Hair */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I am transcribing this BITCH. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 01:14, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Fucking done. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:21, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ahahahaha, Chris is going to organize the high school reunion by himself. This is awesome as it is, but we can't let this opportunity to troll him go by. [[User:EtonpilfAnetah|EtonpilfAnetah]] 01:18, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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How do we know that a reunion has already been organised, and that Chris was not invited? [[User:Sorrid Snake|Sorrid Snake]] 01:29, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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oh, i did some digging around. i don't have it on me, but i'm 95% sure there was one planned. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:30, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think the single funniest thing in this video is that Chris implies he thinks the reason he cant break into the video game industry is because of trolls working for Nintendo. Also, i'm pretty sure he wants a reunion so he can hook up, I'd imagine the last women willing to associated with him were in highschool. Also, I dunno what to do with this, do whatever if you want, just doodling.[[File:Names.PNG|thumb|center]] [[User:Pinefresh|Pinefresh]] 02:40, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Need any on scene reporters for this shit.  I don't live that far away from Manchester High.[[User:ShinGokuIAM|ShinGokuIAM]] 05:23, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sure. I'd post it here, but you Google it yourself....(chris if you're reading this you're a lazy shit). If the date is november then you got it. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 07:01, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I checked it out a couple months ago, and I didn't see anything that would indicate that they had planned a reunion. Besides, if I remember correctly, Chris was on one of the mailing lists to be informed if something did happen. Given that few, if any, of his former classmates are aware of his internet notoriety, I doubt that he would've been left out of the loop.--[[User:Racer X|Racer X]] 06:56, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Well, I have an address and date and time and everything. I'm sure that was probably a fake Chris... [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 07:01, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Oh, I see. You were posting your answer as I was posting my hypothesis. Leave it to the great Clyde Cash to be one step ahead of Inspector Detector and I. --[[User:Racer X|Racer X]] 07:05, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Side note. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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One interesting thing I noticed while transcribing this BITCH. Chris repeats his number for emphasis- does he think YouTube is live? Like live TV? He seems to do almost all of his videos 'on the first take', mistakes included, so this would seem plausible. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:20, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:*It's because doing multiple takes and editing is SO HARD and WAY TOO MUCH WORK. Also one take is much more TRUE and HONEST. Someone gets into it somewhere on the CWCki, but I forget where.--[[User:RTBHBX|RTBHBX]] 06:01, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Transcribing his shit english? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We all know Chris can't present himself verbally, but it's getting to the point where it can be difficult to follow the transcription for his videos since they seem to be written out fairly close to verbatim to his actual speech. Since the transcribing seems to be done by a small group of people (thanks for that, by the way) it's fairly consistent, but even so, should there be some kind of guideline written up for it? Such as what mispronounciations should be included, what stuttering to include, that sort of thing?&lt;br /&gt;
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:*First of all, sign your posts (it's just &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;--~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; at the end of your post). Secondly, some videos are transcribed like that- I transcribed part of Mumble 6 that way, mainly because it was Chris and Julie cybering and I really didn't need to go over and over that just to make sure I got every bit of his spastic stuttering correct. Speaking personally, I prefer to make the transcription as faithful as possible- including stuttering and mistakes. I believe that's the most 'faithful' way to render articles where Chris speaks, including this one. That's one of the perks about being a transcriber- you get to pick your style. If the inclusion of the stuttering (etc) really annoys you, the only thing I can suggest is to take a stab at the vast library of untranscribed audio we have available and transcribe it to your liking. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:24, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hair==&lt;br /&gt;
So far, I've only looked at the thumb but from the image it really seems like his MPB is proceeding just as planned.&lt;br /&gt;
EDIT: Looked at the first few seconds. It's clear as day now. Chris is going bald really quickly. Anyone care to estimate how long he's got/ I would, but I don't know how to. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 08:04, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Think that as his MPB progresses we can chronicle his receding hairline?  I'd be interested to see how quickly it is falling out now compared to the last few years.  --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 10:18, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I don't know how long he has but it really doesn't look healthy. It looks greasy and stringy and I honestly wonder how long it's been since he's bathed or washed his hair.&lt;br /&gt;
Either way, I'd say that he'll be completely bald by November. Just looking at it now compared to pictures from FAF, there's a very noticeable difference. - [[User:Captainhowdy|Captainhowdy]] 10:24, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Oh, this ties rather nicely into what I said about his [[CWCki:Speculation/What health problems will Chris develop first|endocrine/integumentary troubles]]. He definitely has androgenic alopecia, and the last three years have been something of a turning point for him; if you've noticed he's lost nearly all of his hair in the temples&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(which is where it's first lost)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;, and about half the area in the frontal, it's at about a Norwood3 now. As to when he’ll lose the rest, well, It's hard to give a set schedule on hair loss as it's so dependent on specifics, with some individuals it retreats to a certain extent and then stabilizes&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(bob for instance)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;, or it might just progress at an increasing rate. Chris definitely seems to be the later: his life style is going to have a greater impact as he ages, and his increasing body fat means that his body puts together more hormones ,DHT&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(hair loss skin problems)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; included, this has a disproportional effect because Chris seems to be sensitive to DHT&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(which is hereditary)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; and other hormones can convert to DHT but DHT can’t convert to anything else. You can see how this has worked by looking at a this from a case study standpoint:  most of the loss he had from 18-26 was at the ends temples which is in line with the adult hair line men develop; past 08 though he’s lost all his hair from the temples, and afterwards started losing it in the frontal&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(middle forehead)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; at a accelerating pace, essentially we can consider that to be the full onset. If I had to give an estimate on how it’s going to progress it’d be that his hair in the temples area will have gone to his vertex in about six months, and he’ll lose the frontal in that time to a year &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(If you look you can see that it’s patchy in the front, which means it’s micronzing and a becomes progressively thinner every hair cycle, that's why you see it get worse every few months)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;, the next likely point of thing is going to be at the vertex which depending on factors might take as much as a couple of years to clear out. I think you could say with confidence that he’ll have advanced alopecia by the time he’s 30, namely that the clearings in his temples frontal and vertex will have linked into one larger sea of bald.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 11:39, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Cool story, bro. Actually, i was looking for someone to say pretty much this. That seems to fit with my prediction range nicely, so that's pretty cool. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 11:45, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Lolk, sorry about the TLDR, a simple answer just seemed misleading. I think it's pretty interesting that Chris seems to be trying his hand at a combover, so he's probably noticed. I wonder if he's going to try meds... given how extensive his hair loss is now&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(temple hair has been gone too long)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;, he'd need a transplant to reverse it.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 12:05, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trollbusters==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hmm, I wonder where Chris is getting his Trollbuster idea from? I've poked Google and beyond a website that shuts down patents, most of the Trollbuster gatherings were failures. Which isn't totally surprising considering who we're dealing with here, but still. My guess, though, is that he's probably either a) met a group on PSN or b) decided to come up with it himself.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 08:36, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*The answer is B.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 08:41, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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** Ironically enough, the real troll busters are a group of lawyers that specialize in patent law: &amp;quot;[http://www.troll-busters.com/ Troll-Busters]&amp;quot; --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 09:52, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*** That website is as terrible as their services invaluable.  ...  Anyhow: given there's a Trollbusters truck with a no-trolls logo, we can assume he's riffing on the more-popular Ghostbusters for once. You'd think he'd put the no-troll logo on the t-shirt instead of a block of text, but then Chris is a lazy idiot, so! [[User:EnsignDisposable|EnsignDisposable]] 10:00, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Next thing you know he's going to be talking about the cyberpolice and how consequences will never be the same...--[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 10:20, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Alumni Class==&lt;br /&gt;
So I checked online and found that Chris actually has 8 accounts with the alumniclass.com website.  While you don't HAVE to pay for membership ($20) they give you a limited profile where you can't really do anything if you don't pay.  Chris may have paid for a number of the memberships.  This is really sad for Chris because, using a limited profile, I was able to find the reunion date and place in a few seconds.  --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 10:27, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* So, was Chris deliberately not invited to the reunion, or is it just that he hasn't found out about the reunion because he's a retard? [[User:EtonpilfAnetah|EtonpilfAnetah]] 10:40, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:99% chance that those accounts are trolls. Learn to spot 'em... Besides, despite just about everyone saying they know the date/location, NO ONE has offered those bits of info. Instead of so [[ego|self-assuredly]] saying that Chris missed out and was uninvited, why don't we offer proof of this claim? --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 11:00, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Fine:  504 Old Lynchburg Rd  Charlottesville, VA 22903, November 08, 2010, Noon, I can even put in the contact info.  I withheld it because I thought Chris might be watching this.  --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 11:28, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well... I stand corrected, then. I'm fairly sure Chris is already well-aware of this in any case. &amp;lt;!-- That's... a mental institution. Posted in a public website. Either that's some high-class trolling (potentially deceiving an entire class in addition to Chris), or they REALLY ARE holding the reunion in a nuthouse. In any case, super fucked up. --&amp;gt;--[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 11:39, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Deliberately not invited?==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wasn't &amp;quot;invited&amp;quot; to my five-year reunion because I'd moved a mile away from where I lived in high-school in the interim and I wasn't very connected socially with anyone from my class before or after. I found out about it, I showed up, I paid the $20, and that was that. I'm not sure anyone is really invited to their high-school reunion—it's put on and they're just informed of its existence. The invitation is implicit.&lt;br /&gt;
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A more likely scenario is that no one was wont to research the current whereabouts of like 300 other people so they just organized the damned thing and didn't make it a secret. Chris might even have seen the information about it on the Internet not been able to wrap his retarded, autism-riddled brain around the idea that just because it's on the Internet doesn't make it the work of trolls just because he has a unique history of being trolled.&lt;br /&gt;
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He might just think what many of you seem to think—that if it were a real reunion, someone would've contacted him if they wanted him to come. —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 11:17, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:EXCLUSIVE_Manchester_High_School_2000_Reunion_Required_NOW&amp;diff=110728</id>
		<title>Talk:EXCLUSIVE Manchester High School 2000 Reunion Required NOW</title>
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		<updated>2010-08-27T18:39:56Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: /* Hair */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I am transcribing this BITCH. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 01:14, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Fucking done. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:21, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ahahahaha, Chris is going to organize the high school reunion by himself. This is awesome as it is, but we can't let this opportunity to troll him go by. [[User:EtonpilfAnetah|EtonpilfAnetah]] 01:18, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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How do we know that a reunion has already been organised, and that Chris was not invited? [[User:Sorrid Snake|Sorrid Snake]] 01:29, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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oh, i did some digging around. i don't have it on me, but i'm 95% sure there was one planned. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:30, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think the single funniest thing in this video is that Chris implies he thinks the reason he cant break into the video game industry is because of trolls working for Nintendo. Also, i'm pretty sure he wants a reunion so he can hook up, I'd imagine the last women willing to associated with him were in highschool. Also, I dunno what to do with this, do whatever if you want, just doodling.[[File:Names.PNG|thumb|center]] [[User:Pinefresh|Pinefresh]] 02:40, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Need any on scene reporters for this shit.  I don't live that far away from Manchester High.[[User:ShinGokuIAM|ShinGokuIAM]] 05:23, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sure. I'd post it here, but you Google it yourself....(chris if you're reading this you're a lazy shit). If the date is november then you got it. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 07:01, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I checked it out a couple months ago, and I didn't see anything that would indicate that they had planned a reunion. Besides, if I remember correctly, Chris was on one of the mailing lists to be informed if something did happen. Given that few, if any, of his former classmates are aware of his internet notoriety, I doubt that he would've been left out of the loop.--[[User:Racer X|Racer X]] 06:56, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Well, I have an address and date and time and everything. I'm sure that was probably a fake Chris... [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 07:01, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Oh, I see. You were posting your answer as I was posting my hypothesis. Leave it to the great Clyde Cash to be one step ahead of Inspector Detector and I. --[[User:Racer X|Racer X]] 07:05, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Side note. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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One interesting thing I noticed while transcribing this BITCH. Chris repeats his number for emphasis- does he think YouTube is live? Like live TV? He seems to do almost all of his videos 'on the first take', mistakes included, so this would seem plausible. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:20, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:*It's because doing multiple takes and editing is SO HARD and WAY TOO MUCH WORK. Also one take is much more TRUE and HONEST. Someone gets into it somewhere on the CWCki, but I forget where.--[[User:RTBHBX|RTBHBX]] 06:01, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Transcribing his shit english? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We all know Chris can't present himself verbally, but it's getting to the point where it can be difficult to follow the transcription for his videos since they seem to be written out fairly close to verbatim to his actual speech. Since the transcribing seems to be done by a small group of people (thanks for that, by the way) it's fairly consistent, but even so, should there be some kind of guideline written up for it? Such as what mispronounciations should be included, what stuttering to include, that sort of thing?&lt;br /&gt;
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:*First of all, sign your posts (it's just &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;--~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; at the end of your post). Secondly, some videos are transcribed like that- I transcribed part of Mumble 6 that way, mainly because it was Chris and Julie cybering and I really didn't need to go over and over that just to make sure I got every bit of his spastic stuttering correct. Speaking personally, I prefer to make the transcription as faithful as possible- including stuttering and mistakes. I believe that's the most 'faithful' way to render articles where Chris speaks, including this one. That's one of the perks about being a transcriber- you get to pick your style. If the inclusion of the stuttering (etc) really annoys you, the only thing I can suggest is to take a stab at the vast library of untranscribed audio we have available and transcribe it to your liking. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:24, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hair==&lt;br /&gt;
So far, I've only looked at the thumb but from the image it really seems like his MPB is proceeding just as planned.&lt;br /&gt;
EDIT: Looked at the first few seconds. It's clear as day now. Chris is going bald really quickly. Anyone care to estimate how long he's got/ I would, but I don't know how to. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 08:04, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Think that as his MPB progresses we can chronicle his receding hairline?  I'd be interested to see how quickly it is falling out now compared to the last few years.  --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 10:18, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I don't know how long he has but it really doesn't look healthy. It looks greasy and stringy and I honestly wonder how long it's been since he's bathed or washed his hair.&lt;br /&gt;
Either way, I'd say that he'll be completely bald by November. Just looking at it now compared to pictures from FAF, there's a very noticeable difference. - [[User:Captainhowdy|Captainhowdy]] 10:24, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Oh, this ties rather nicely into what I said about his [[CWCki:Speculation/What health problems will Chris develop first|endocrine/integumentary troubles]]. He definitely has androgenic alopecia, and the last three years have been something of a turning point for him; if you've noticed he's lost nearly all of his hair in the temples&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(which is where it's first lost)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;, and about half the area in the frontal, it's at about a Norwood3 now. As to when he’ll lose the rest, well, It's hard to give a set schedule on hair loss as it's so dependent on specifics, with some individuals it retreats to a certain extent and then stabilizes&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(bob for instance)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;, or it might just progress at an increasing rate. Chris definitely seems to be the later: his life style is going to have a greater impact as he ages, and his increasing body fat means that his body puts together more hormones ,DHT&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(hair loss skin problems)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; included, this has a disproportional effect because Chris seems to be sensitive to DHT&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(which is hereditary)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; and other hormones can convert to DHT but DHT can’t convert to anything else. You can see how this has worked by looking at a this from a case study standpoint:  most of the loss he had from 18-26 was at the ends temples which is in line with the adult hair line men develop; past 08 though he’s lost all his hair from the temples, and afterwards started losing it in the frontal&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(middle forehead)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; at a accelerating pace, essentially we can consider that to be the full onset. If I had to give an estimate on how it’s going to progress it’d be that his hair in the temples area will have gone to his vertex in about six months, and he’ll lose the frontal in that time to a year &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(If you look you can see that it’s patchy in the front, which means it’s micronzing and a becomes progressively thinner every hair cycle, that's why you see it get worse every few months)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;, the next likely point of thing is going to be at the vertex which depending on factors might take as much as a couple of years to clear out. I think you could say with confidence that he’ll have advanced alopecia by the time he’s 30, namely that the clearings in his temples frontal and vertex will have linked into one larger sea of bald.[[User:Kei|Kei]] 11:39, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trollbusters==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hmm, I wonder where Chris is getting his Trollbuster idea from? I've poked Google and beyond a website that shuts down patents, most of the Trollbuster gatherings were failures. Which isn't totally surprising considering who we're dealing with here, but still. My guess, though, is that he's probably either a) met a group on PSN or b) decided to come up with it himself.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 08:36, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*The answer is B.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 08:41, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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** Ironically enough, the real troll busters are a group of lawyers that specialize in patent law: &amp;quot;[http://www.troll-busters.com/ Troll-Busters]&amp;quot; --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 09:52, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*** That website is as terrible as their services invaluable.  ...  Anyhow: given there's a Trollbusters truck with a no-trolls logo, we can assume he's riffing on the more-popular Ghostbusters for once. You'd think he'd put the no-troll logo on the t-shirt instead of a block of text, but then Chris is a lazy idiot, so! [[User:EnsignDisposable|EnsignDisposable]] 10:00, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Next thing you know he's going to be talking about the cyberpolice and how consequences will never be the same...--[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 10:20, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Alumni Class==&lt;br /&gt;
So I checked online and found that Chris actually has 8 accounts with the alumniclass.com website.  While you don't HAVE to pay for membership ($20) they give you a limited profile where you can't really do anything if you don't pay.  Chris may have paid for a number of the memberships.  This is really sad for Chris because, using a limited profile, I was able to find the reunion date and place in a few seconds.  --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 10:27, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* So, was Chris deliberately not invited to the reunion, or is it just that he hasn't found out about the reunion because he's a retard? [[User:EtonpilfAnetah|EtonpilfAnetah]] 10:40, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:99% chance that those accounts are trolls. Learn to spot 'em... Besides, despite just about everyone saying they know the date/location, NO ONE has offered those bits of info. Instead of so [[ego|self-assuredly]] saying that Chris missed out and was uninvited, why don't we offer proof of this claim? --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 11:00, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Fine:  504 Old Lynchburg Rd  Charlottesville, VA 22903, November 08, 2010, Noon, I can even put in the contact info.  I withheld it because I thought Chris might be watching this.  --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 11:28, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well... I stand corrected, then. I'm fairly sure Chris is already well-aware of this in any case. &amp;lt;!-- Caboose, you ass, we already know that's a mental institution. Yeah, we know Chris reads this, but it's not like you should play the deception game with ALL of us. --&amp;gt;--[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 11:39, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Deliberately not invited?==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wasn't &amp;quot;invited&amp;quot; to my five-year reunion because I'd moved a mile away from where I lived in high-school in the interim and I wasn't very connected socially with anyone from my class before or after. I found out about it, I showed up, I paid the $20, and that was that. I'm not sure anyone is really invited to their high-school reunion—it's put on and they're just informed of its existence. The invitation is implicit.&lt;br /&gt;
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A more likely scenario is that no one was wont to research the current whereabouts of like 300 other people so they just organized the damned thing and didn't make it a secret. Chris might even have seen the information about it on the Internet not been able to wrap his retarded, autism-riddled brain around the idea that just because it's on the Internet doesn't make it the work of trolls just because he has a unique history of being trolled.&lt;br /&gt;
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He might just think what many of you seem to think—that if it were a real reunion, someone would've contacted him if they wanted him to come. —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 11:17, 27 August 2010 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Chris_and_money&amp;diff=109656</id>
		<title>Chris and money</title>
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		<updated>2010-08-18T02:44:42Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: /* In the comic */ Pruned down ideological commentary, sentence has nothing objectively to do with Chris. Also the social system where public resources are used for special interests is corporatism.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{quote|He's not good at math when it comes to managing money.|[[Bob Chandler]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}} &lt;br /&gt;
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It's obvious that [[Chris]] himself has no grasp on the real value of '''money''', since he actively wastes as much of his [[monthly tugboat]] as possible on luxuries like [[Eye of Judgement|trading cards]], [[Officer Nasty|sex toys]], [[Duck|porn]], [[PS3|video games]], and, more recently, [[alcohol]]. He also once, when giving out the laws of [[CWCville]], equated 10 years in prison to a $1,500 fine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Chris Chan Q&amp;amp;A 27 October 2008]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He also equated 50 hours of community service to $500 (for any sexual violations).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mailbag_31#Magi-Chan_knows_when_you_fuck]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris is a self-admitted impulse buyer. His [[PSN]] account shows that he's never played more than half of the games he's bought. And yet, astoundingly, he's still gone out of his way to buy ''all'' available downloadable content for ''every'' PS3 game that he's ever purchased, and he also further promoted his Sony fanboyism by later buying a Sony LCD HDTV for his bedroom which likely cost at least about $1,000-$1,500. All the while, Chris buys his [[Chris and fashion|clothes]] at second-hand discount thrift stores.&lt;br /&gt;
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==But wait, Chris isn't employed! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris is what most would call a welfare leech. Chris's only source of income is the $800 [[monthly tugboat|&amp;quot;tugboat&amp;quot;]] that he receives from the federal government every month, placing his annual income at $9,600 a year. Chris's parents take $450 to pay for room and board.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Miyamoto Saga&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In addition, Chris and his family get [[Wikipedia:Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program|SNAP]] money every month- more commonly known as food stamps.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|My father helped me get my Social Security set up; I get more a month than I could at a job. |Chris, completely deluded.}} &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Bob Chandler|Chris's father]] has been encouraging his son to remain unemployed, since he believes that Chris will earn more money from his monthly tugboat than from getting a job. However, this assumption is inaccurate. To put this in perspective, at the time of writing, minimum wage in the state of [[Virginia]] is $7.25, pursuant to federal minimum wage. If Chris were to somehow do a complete 180 on his life and begin working a full 40-hour week, his monthly payment before taxes and payment for room and board would be approximately $1,260 USD. This would put Chris's annual income range, before tax, at roughly $15,100. Subtracting what he pays his parents to live in filth monthly, as well as the 5% tax his income range mandates in the state of Virginia, Chris could very likely be left with a ridiculous $9,000 in ''spending'' money, as in, for more sex toys and video games. Contrast this with the $4,200 Chris pulls annually from the government after paying off his parents (roughly equal to what he's spent in total so far on his PS3); it becomes clear that Bob's encouragement comes from either delusion or knowing that his son is a [[fail]]ure.&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris strongly believes that by receiving and spending his tugboat on useless shit he is aiding the economy and paying for the tugboat of others.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mailbag 34]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Again, this demonstrates his idiocy since sales tax goes to the state government and these &amp;quot;tugboats&amp;quot; are paid with federal payroll tax. Apparently, this is too complex for Chris's autistic mind. Where Chris is hiding the printing press to afford this discretionary spending is unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
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Interestingly enough, while he has no clue how to handle money, Chris has an unhealthy [[Ego|fixation]] on his material possessions. In [[Vivitheg's AIM chat]], he stated that he did not want to sell any of his stuff, and in the [[Miyamoto Saga]], he refused to sell anything to help raise money for the trip to Redmond.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Credit cards==&lt;br /&gt;
As surprising as it is that Chris has his own credit cards, it is equally unsurprising how unwisely he uses them. Chris has managed to rack up $2,000 worth of debt (at the time of [[Mumble 4]], $1,000 of that sum came from the PSN store, but his bill for PSN downloads increases by the day) and has even stolen his parents' credit cards to use when his were maxed out. Being the greedy twat that he is, when Chris finally does make payments towards his debts, he always does so in the smallest installments possible, freeing himself to spend as much as he has (or more) on worthless shit, entirely oblivious to the fact that he's only increasing his debt by letting interest charges rack up. Economists are currently working on the theory that it is Chris's debts, not the collapse of financial institutions, which have caused the current global financial crisis.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In the comic==&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Sonichu (comic)|the comic]] it is clear Chris has no idea how money works. [[Sonichu]], [[Rosechu]], [[Patti-Chan]], and most likely, all of the other characters live off welfare, just like Chris IRL. He seems to have no concept of tax, or that it's the American populace who pay for his [[Kimmi|bullshit]]. Sonichu and Rosechu are living in a two story house with an attic offered by the city and they are [[Mailbag 21#Home economics|&amp;quot;paid&amp;quot; in average]] of $3,500 a month just to hang around. And maybe for the occasional [[Sonichu 9|city defense]] or [[A Sonichu Day|errand]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Sonichu 9|Episode 19]], it's shown that CWCVille actually uses its own currency, in the form of C Quarters and W Quarters. 10 C Quarters make up a W Quarter - don't bother asking how that makes sense in any way, considering [[honor roll|what the word &amp;quot;quarter&amp;quot; means]]. (Our best guess: C Quarters = US$0.25, W Quarters = US$2.50) Nor does it explain why fines are levied in US dollars.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In other works==&lt;br /&gt;
Chris shows us his complete misunderstanding of the stress his ideas would put on the American Social Security system if he was left in charge of it in a text called &amp;quot;[[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas Story]].&amp;quot; This is where the idea of &amp;quot;Soup Hotels&amp;quot; came from.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|Even the homeless have a place to stay in the ten Soup Kitchens/Hotels. |Chris with a very bad idea [http://leoweekly.com/news/left-wayside that has come to frution in one American city...]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris depicts &amp;quot;Soup Hotels&amp;quot; in [[Mailbag 20]] as a building ten stories tall with 10 to 20 rooms per floor, equipped with single bathrooms, bed, lighting and Cable TV. Of course, the homeless will stay there for free. So, instead of building homeless shelters with dormitories, common rooms, and shared TV sets, Chris thinks the homeless should be treated to all the comforts of a ''bona fide'' hotel. This means that, in CWCville, there are around 1,000-2,000 homeless people left outside. This might be the result of the local industry, choked by heavy taxes needed to pay those social expenses, being unable to make a profit there and thus moving away.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Sonichu 10]], [[Ultra Sonichu]] and bevy of Rosechus stop at a soup hotel. The building is labeled Soup Hotel 17, implying that CWCville has had to open 7 new homeless shelters in the span of a month, or they're just bad at numbering the things.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Mailbag 29]] he states that $10 an hour is a reasonable price to pay for sex with a prostitute. To show his further ignorance of simple economics, Chris proposed a chain of state-run brothels where this shockingly inexpensive fee would not only pay women for sex, pay the salary of a pimp (which would be a redundant middleman in a state-approved brothel), pay for STD testing for the prostitutes, but would also pay for free Sex Ed classes for virgins. In real life, Chris tried to scam his way out of paying for sex with a Craigslist [[Chris and sex#Prostitution|prostitute]] who was charging $100 per hour by telling her about the trolls, his life story, and his many personal problems. The prostitute hung up on him.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== On TV ==&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Mumble 6]], Chris discussed making a TV show called ''The Chandler Show''. One of his demands was the show should not have any commercial breaks, either showing a distinct lack of understanding as to how a TV station makes money, or perhaps he plans to sell the advertising fees to a single company so that they can play a long ad in the beginning of the air time and leave the rest of the show uninterrupted, à-la the season premieres of [[wikipedia:24 (TV Series)|24]]. We cannot know for sure, but he has probably seen at least one show that has done this, and gathered the idea from there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chris also seems to not understand that [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|if the health department, of Greene County, sees that TV show, that he put on the damn TV, they could be evicted, and he would have to move out]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Best Buy Mastercard ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the [[Matthew Noble call]], it was revealed by Bob himself that Chris not only has a Mastercard charge account acquired through Best Buy, but as of the second week of August 2010, Chris had somehow used it to land himself in yet more debt and had been laden with fees for bouncing a card payment. Bob, in the throes of some sort of conspiracy paranoia involving the staff and patrons of [[the GAMe PLACe]], claims that it was most likely [[Michael Snyder]] who had hacked Chris's credit card and checking accounts, though why someone who's been on a manager's salary for several years would bother stealing from Chris is unknown. Also unknown is why ''any'' financial institution would give Chris a line of credit at this point.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Bob continues that the resulting transactions may have ruined Chris' credit rating (though that ship has ''long'' since fucking sailed), and, in a disturbingly Chris-like fashion, seems to use this damning information to try to make Chris' latest brush with the [[Law]] seem &amp;quot;petty&amp;quot; in comparison.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are three possibilities as to what has actually occurred (from least to most likely):&lt;br /&gt;
* Trolls have achieved this new pinnacle of fucking with Chris and didn't bother bragging about it on some forum or another.&lt;br /&gt;
* Some regular criminal's credit card fraud scheme has, just by chance, hit Chris.&lt;br /&gt;
* Chris blew whatever little credit that Best Buy had foolishly given him, mistakenly attempted to pay off the card with funds from his checking account that weren't there, and is now blaming his crippling debt on [[Trolls]], in another transparent attempt to not have to take responsibility.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Monthly tugboat]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sauce==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Chris and}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category: Chris-chan]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Kellie_Andes&amp;diff=107992</id>
		<title>Kellie Andes</title>
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		<updated>2010-08-06T15:53:59Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: If you really were family and wanted this out you'd have contacted the admins, nice try at trolling.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:0315-KellieAndesY2K.jpg|thumb|right|Kellie Andes (Circa 2000).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Kellie Andes 2010.jpg|thumb|right|Kellie Andes Today.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|I REALLY missed out on that when I could have had the chance to take it.|Chris, totally deluded&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[User:ChrisChanSonichu profile#The Teenage Years]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Kellie Lyn Andes''' (married name:  Kellie Lyn Andes Stowel) was [[Chris]]'s crush in [[Manchester High School|high school]] that he met in sophomore year. They lost contact in mid-[[2001]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[:Image:0309-CWCNote5.jpg|DVD, note 5]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Today, Chris thinks he had a chance with her but blew it due to [[naïve|naïveté]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[User:ChrisChanSonichu profile#The Teenage Years]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For whatever reason, Chris now considers her to be his [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|High School Sweetheart]], despite the fact that the term is usually reserved for people that are dating, and not for retarded man-children and the patient women that tolerate them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Kellie is living proof of how sad Chris's life really is. In a sad, vain attempt to remind himself of how his life used to be, Chris has remained largely unchanged since high school (when he had the most female friends he'll ever have), while Kellie has actually moved on and gotten herself a job, husband and two children. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In the comic==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Kellie Andes.jpg|thumb|right|150px|Kellie, upon discovering Chris's [[nudes]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Kellie appears in the last page of [[Episode 15]] of the [[comic]] as someone who discovers Chris's [[nudes]]. In [[Episode 17]], [[Rosechu]] mentions Kellie as the one who informed her about [[4-cent_garbage]]. In reality, Chris admits that he only gave Kellie the honor of discovering the ED page in the comic.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/sonichu/SchuComic9P4.htm Sonichu 8, page 4.] Chris in an [[Blanca E-mails#Chris describes Episode 17: &amp;quot;Rage Against the Garbage&amp;quot;|email to Blanca]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It's highly unlikely she did in real life.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some argue that she is also the inspiration for [[Kel|Kel's]] name. In [[Sonichu 10]] Kel is actually referred to as &amp;quot;Kellie&amp;quot;; while it's still possible they're not meant to be the same person (especially considering the appearance of &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; Kellie in episode 15), the spelling at least reinforces the idea that Kel is meant to be some version of Kellie. The fact that Kel is in love with [[Reldnahc]] (who is essentially a Freudian version of Chris) shows some more of his inability to get over women.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Kellie on Chris==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In [[User:Delabonte/Kellie|recent correspondence]] Kellie confirmed that Chris is definitely not her type. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|I never liked Christian in that way. Christian is def. not my type nor has he ever been.|Kellie, laying it down}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Considering she married a handsome straight guy who has good social skills, a deep voice, a muscular physique, and a job where he saves lives instead of mooching off welfare... then she isn't kidding. He also happens to be a [[niggo]], but that has nothing to do with it.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Currently==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Kellie is currently living as '''Kellie Andes Stowell''' in Richmond, [[Virginia]], where she works as a firefighter alongside her husband. She is also the mother of a two-year-old boy and a newborn girl.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.myspace.com/57109479&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; One can hope that she is able to sleep easy without Chris's figure haunting her dreams. As if to prove a point to Chris, she got married to a [[Liquid|tall, handsome]] [[Man in the Pickle Suit|black man]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Image:0312-KellieAndes97.jpg|Kellie, 1997.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:0313-KellieAndes98.jpg|Kellie, 1998.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:0314-KellieAndes99.jpg|Kellie, 1999&lt;br /&gt;
Image:0315-KellieAndesY2K.jpg|Kellie, 2000.&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sauces==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;{{People}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Sweethearts}}&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Gal pals]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Real people who have appeared in Sonichu comics]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=107985</id>
		<title>Main Page</title>
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		<updated>2010-08-06T15:47:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: Undo revision 107980 by ChrisIsGay (talk)nice try at trolling&lt;/p&gt;
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	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JenkinsJinkies&amp;diff=103975</id>
		<title>User talk:JenkinsJinkies</title>
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		<updated>2010-07-12T08:26:15Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Hey dude. What part of Boston do you live in? [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 23:03, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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أهلا صديقي --[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 07:19, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I can tell, you're going to fit in great here. Welcome! --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 18:35, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wow, dude, you are a gangsta for keeping an eye on Chrissy.  You are an awesome dude, keep on contributing! [[User:Elephant|Elephant]] 03:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== reward ==&lt;br /&gt;
hey man, I'd like your name and address so I can send you a reward. china or pickles? [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 00:23, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also, could you help us with the new [[Amanda]] article? [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 06:27, 4 July 2010 &lt;br /&gt;
(UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks, man, but I'm good; I lost my young virginity with a Seinor Cheerleader; her china was sweeeeettt!  Plus, as an Anon, I prefer to keep my add off of the web.  I would not want Chris coming after my ass.  The mindfuck that he is, I would not want to fall victim of one of his impulsive manchild rampages.  I just enjoy getting the LULZ off of him.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That's all the info I got of [[Amanda]]; my family and I don't travel to South VA that often, but I'll see if I can hitch another trip and find a place to crash in VA.  I wouldn't be missed; I am soo overlooked in my family.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Something else that has piqued my curiousity, from the [[Hooker incident]], I'm wondering from which luscious company or group [[Bryan Bash]] the ladies came from, specifically the company name, their website, and from within Chris's crappy (434) A.C.  Because if they were out-of-his-state, I may give them a call myself.  &amp;gt;:D&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you for your support, [[User:Clydec|Clydec]]; you're awesome.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:JenkinsJinkies|JenkinsJinkies]] 18:43, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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implying chris would actually travel somewhere. if you think chris is a threat, well, you're a pussy lol. haven't you seen his push ups or his running video or his cwcfighting thing? jesus christ he's as weak as paper. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 00:35, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Firstly, I am not a pussy; I am as wild as a serial raper.  Second, I saw those videos; he is still a curiously impulsive individual.  It is people like him that tend to explode in a hidden-potential fury that could be very dangerous.  While you may see him as a weak fuck, I see a crazy man who will likely strike at any given moment.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
During the time now, I enjoy laughing during his weaker moments, yet I still am concerned in what intelligence and fury lie within him waiting to strike.  He may be only waiting and plotting for the day when he may hunt us down, one by one.  We can only hope that day will never come.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:JenkinsJinkies|JenkinsJinkies]] 07:05, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You're safe, spud. I've worried about that in the past, but he's too much of a coward. He won't even show his face on the internet anymore, so i don't think you need to worry about him finding and beating you or anyone else. He'd run and hide just like he did from the internet! lulz!!! With 2 new Sonic games coming out this year he'll be too lazy to move his fat butt out of the house anyways. That Sonic 4 looks pretty sweet actually, wouldn't mind playing it myself.   [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 07:31, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Don't worry, man, even his rage moments, the retard is weak and naive. He can't even break a thing piece of wood; all he did to it was bend it like his ugly, one inch dick. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 08:21, 12 July 2010 (UTC) &lt;br /&gt;
::That's right, he never moves to do anything so you're quite safe. He could have caused us all major trouble by picking a fight with Snyder or Amanda, but rather than grab his opportunity he just ran. Whatever potential threat he might have will never come: he's hiding in terror from us all right now, CWC in the end of things is nothing more than a naive, retarded, closeted-gay and grotesquely obese manchild who runs away the moment he gets hurt. It's easy to see that at this rate he's always going to stay a virgin, with him in hiding we've basicaly won!-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 08:24, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
{{welcome|Champthom}}--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:12, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JenkinsJinkies&amp;diff=103974</id>
		<title>User talk:JenkinsJinkies</title>
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		<updated>2010-07-12T08:24:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: /* reward */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Hey dude. What part of Boston do you live in? [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 23:03, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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أهلا صديقي --[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 07:19, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I can tell, you're going to fit in great here. Welcome! --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 18:35, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wow, dude, you are a gangsta for keeping an eye on Chrissy.  You are an awesome dude, keep on contributing! [[User:Elephant|Elephant]] 03:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== reward ==&lt;br /&gt;
hey man, I'd like your name and address so I can send you a reward. china or pickles? [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 00:23, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also, could you help us with the new [[Amanda]] article? [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 06:27, 4 July 2010 &lt;br /&gt;
(UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks, man, but I'm good; I lost my young virginity with a Seinor Cheerleader; her china was sweeeeettt!  Plus, as an Anon, I prefer to keep my add off of the web.  I would not want Chris coming after my ass.  The mindfuck that he is, I would not want to fall victim of one of his impulsive manchild rampages.  I just enjoy getting the LULZ off of him.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That's all the info I got of [[Amanda]]; my family and I don't travel to South VA that often, but I'll see if I can hitch another trip and find a place to crash in VA.  I wouldn't be missed; I am soo overlooked in my family.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Something else that has piqued my curiousity, from the [[Hooker incident]], I'm wondering from which luscious company or group [[Bryan Bash]] the ladies came from, specifically the company name, their website, and from within Chris's crappy (434) A.C.  Because if they were out-of-his-state, I may give them a call myself.  &amp;gt;:D&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you for your support, [[User:Clydec|Clydec]]; you're awesome.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:JenkinsJinkies|JenkinsJinkies]] 18:43, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
implying chris would actually travel somewhere. if you think chris is a threat, well, you're a pussy lol. haven't you seen his push ups or his running video or his cwcfighting thing? jesus christ he's as weak as paper. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 00:35, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Firstly, I am not a pussy; I am as wild as a serial raper.  Second, I saw those videos; he is still a curiously impulsive individual.  It is people like him that tend to explode in a hidden-potential fury that could be very dangerous.  While you may see him as a weak fuck, I see a crazy man who will likely strike at any given moment.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
During the time now, I enjoy laughing during his weaker moments, yet I still am concerned in what intelligence and fury lie within him waiting to strike.  He may be only waiting and plotting for the day when he may hunt us down, one by one.  We can only hope that day will never come.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:JenkinsJinkies|JenkinsJinkies]] 07:05, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You're safe, spud. I've worried about that in the past, but he's too much of a coward. He won't even show his face on the internet anymore, so i don't think you need to worry about him finding and beating you or anyone else. He'd run and hide just like he did from the internet! lulz!!! With 2 new Sonic games coming out this year he'll be too lazy to move his fat butt out of the house anyways. That Sonic 4 looks pretty sweet actually, wouldn't mind playing it myself.   [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 07:31, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Don't worry, man, even his rage moments, the retard is weak and naive. He can't even break a thing piece of wood; all he did to it was bend it like his ugly, one inch dick. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 08:21, 12 July 2010 (UTC) &lt;br /&gt;
::That's right, he never moves to do anything so you're quite safe. He could have caused us all major trouble by picking a fight with Snyder or Amanda, but rather than grab his opportunity he just ran. Whatever potential threat he might have will never come: he's hiding in terror from us all right now, CWC in the end of things is nothing more than a naive, retarded, closeted and grotesquely obese manchild who runs away the moment he gets hurt. It's easy to see that at this rate he's always going to stay a virgin, with him in hiding we've basicaly won!-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 08:24, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
{{welcome|Champthom}}--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:12, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JenkinsJinkies&amp;diff=103973</id>
		<title>User talk:JenkinsJinkies</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: /* reward */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Hey dude. What part of Boston do you live in? [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 23:03, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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أهلا صديقي --[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 07:19, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I can tell, you're going to fit in great here. Welcome! --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 18:35, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wow, dude, you are a gangsta for keeping an eye on Chrissy.  You are an awesome dude, keep on contributing! [[User:Elephant|Elephant]] 03:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== reward ==&lt;br /&gt;
hey man, I'd like your name and address so I can send you a reward. china or pickles? [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 00:23, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also, could you help us with the new [[Amanda]] article? [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 06:27, 4 July 2010 &lt;br /&gt;
(UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks, man, but I'm good; I lost my young virginity with a Seinor Cheerleader; her china was sweeeeettt!  Plus, as an Anon, I prefer to keep my add off of the web.  I would not want Chris coming after my ass.  The mindfuck that he is, I would not want to fall victim of one of his impulsive manchild rampages.  I just enjoy getting the LULZ off of him.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That's all the info I got of [[Amanda]]; my family and I don't travel to South VA that often, but I'll see if I can hitch another trip and find a place to crash in VA.  I wouldn't be missed; I am soo overlooked in my family.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Something else that has piqued my curiousity, from the [[Hooker incident]], I'm wondering from which luscious company or group [[Bryan Bash]] the ladies came from, specifically the company name, their website, and from within Chris's crappy (434) A.C.  Because if they were out-of-his-state, I may give them a call myself.  &amp;gt;:D&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you for your support, [[User:Clydec|Clydec]]; you're awesome.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:JenkinsJinkies|JenkinsJinkies]] 18:43, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
implying chris would actually travel somewhere. if you think chris is a threat, well, you're a pussy lol. haven't you seen his push ups or his running video or his cwcfighting thing? jesus christ he's as weak as paper. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 00:35, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Firstly, I am not a pussy; I am as wild as a serial raper.  Second, I saw those videos; he is still a curiously impulsive individual.  It is people like him that tend to explode in a hidden-potential fury that could be very dangerous.  While you may see him as a weak fuck, I see a crazy man who will likely strike at any given moment.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
During the time now, I enjoy laughing during his weaker moments, yet I still am concerned in what intelligence and fury lie within him waiting to strike.  He may be only waiting and plotting for the day when he may hunt us down, one by one.  We can only hope that day will never come.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:JenkinsJinkies|JenkinsJinkies]] 07:05, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You're safe, spud. I've worried about that in the past, but he's too much of a coward. He won't even show his face on the internet anymore, so i don't think you need to worry about him finding and beating you or anyone else. He'd run and hide just like he did from the internet! lulz!!! With 2 new Sonic games coming out this year he'll be too lazy to move his fat butt out of the house anyways. That Sonic 4 looks pretty sweet actually, wouldn't mind playing it myself.   [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 07:31, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Don't worry, man, even his rage moments, the retard is weak and naive. He can't even break a thing piece of wood; all he did to it was bend it like his ugly, one inch dick. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 08:21, 12 July 2010 (UTC) &lt;br /&gt;
::That's right, he never moves to do anything so you're quite safe. He could have caused us all major trouble by picking a fight with Snyder or Amanda, but rather than grab his opportunity he just ran. Whatever potential threat he might have will never come: he's hiding in terror from us all right now, CWC in the end of things is nothing more than a naive, retarded, closeted and grotesquely obese manchild who runs away the moment he gets hurt. It's easy to see that at this rate he's always going to stay a virgin, with him in hiding we've basicaly won!-&lt;br /&gt;
{{welcome|Champthom}}--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:12, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=The_GAMe_PLACe&amp;diff=103146</id>
		<title>The GAMe PLACe</title>
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:The-Game-Place.jpg|thumb|The GAMe PLACe]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GamePlace2.jpg|thumb|Another angle, revealing The GAMe PLACe to be adjacent to a Staples store]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Chris would rarely ever shake anyones hand after a game, and when he did, he quickly followed up with hand sanitizer.|[[Mimms]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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'''The GAMe PLACe''' is a comic-book, game, card, toy, and hobby shop in [[Charlottesville]]. For several years, up until the summer of [[2008]], Chris hung out there on a regular basis, going there every Friday without fail to play the ''[[Pokémon]]'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' [[card games]]. The shop hosted the [[Wikipedia:Pokémon_Organized_Play#Pok.C3.A9mon_TCG_Leagues|Pokémon TCG League]] where Chris served as a self-proclaimed volunteer gym leader (though he was not endorsed in any way, and was largely simply tolerated by the store).&lt;br /&gt;
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After a long period of scaring off customers and being a confrontational douche, Chris was permanently kicked out of the store by one of the managers, [[Michael Snyder]], on 28 [[August 2008]]. Since then, Chris has attempted several times to regain access to the store, to no avail thanks to Michael's insistence.&lt;br /&gt;
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==People of note==&lt;br /&gt;
Chris originally met [[Megan Schroeder]] at The GAMe PLACe in [[2005]], where they bonded over their shared interest in Yu-Gi-Oh! Megan continued to hang out at the shop even after her friendship with Chris [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|collapsed]] in the spring of [[2008]], although their relationship by that point was strained to say the least. Once she broke off all contact with Chris, she did her best to ignore him entirely when they were at the store at the same time.&lt;br /&gt;
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The other two best-known patrons of the shop, aside from Chris himself, are [[Daniel Mimms]] and [[Lucas]]. The two friends are the primary source of most of what is known about Chris's behavior at The GAMe PLACe (and most of the information in this article), which they revealed during a detailed [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A|Q&amp;amp;A session]] on the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC forums]]. They're also famous for having taken and uploaded the first photograph of Chris to reach the internet, which Mimms snapped and Lucas uploaded to [[4-cent_garbage.com|4chan]] in the fall of [[2007]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Michael Snyder]], one of the store's managers (he isn't the owner, though he's sometimes mistakenly described as such) would eventually become one of Chris's real-life nemeses when he kicked Chris out of the store in the summer of 2008.&amp;lt;ref name=ban&amp;gt;[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris.27s_ban_from_the_store|Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A: Chris's ban from the store]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Chris's attitude at The GAMe PLACe==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sonichupunch.jpg|thumb|left|Chris acting his age.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TonyTyAndBriana.jpg|thumb|Some regulars.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In his early days at The GAMe PLACe, Chris's behavior seems to have been more &amp;quot;childlike,&amp;quot; for lack of a better word. According to Mimms, who was a regular at the store for the entire time Chris hung out there, Chris avoided using foul language when he first started gaming at the store.&amp;lt;ref name=homo&amp;gt;[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Racism_and_homophobia|Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A: Racism and homophobia]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He also never failed to show up for Pokémon games in his old [[Chris_and_fashion#Cosplaying_Chris|Ash Ketchum costume]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The costume was eventually retired, however (by the time of the 2007 photo, Chris was showing up in his usual colorful clown shirts and sporting the [[Sonichu medallion]]), and Chris's behavior grew more aggressive and vulgar over the years. According to Mimms and Lucas, Chris often became angry at his card-game opponents, even small children. An [[Megan_Emails,_Aug-Dec_2007#Megan_is_pissed_that_Chris_is_nosing_in_her_business|October 2007 e-mail]] from Megan mentions an incident where Chris was extremely threatening and insulting to a guy whom he thought was putting the moves on his gal-pal.&lt;br /&gt;
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Mimms recounted a few instances of Chris displaying his dislike and distrust of black people. He was openly suspicious of the young black kids he played Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh with, apparently because he thought they were going to make off with his cards.&amp;lt;ref name=mimms1&amp;gt;[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Initial_post|Mimms &amp;amp; Lucas Q&amp;amp;A: Initial post]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Chris also nearly managed to earn himself a beating from an older black gamer by the name of TJ:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Chris yells at him, &amp;quot;I'm going to smack your effing face down!&amp;quot; and TJ stands up like hes going to beat his ass. Chris shrinks back and and says &amp;quot;I mean your face down monster...&amp;quot;|Mimms, [[Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Likewise, Chris's homophobia occasionally surfaced while he was hanging out at the shop. A gay regular at the shop by the name of Eric was the target of mockery and threats from Chris (although Mimms noted that, for obvious reasons, Chris wasn't likely to ever do him any great physical harm).&amp;lt;ref name=homo/&amp;gt; Chris also assumed that two of the shop's regulars were gay because they happened to exchange a few jokingly romantic remarks — his literal mind took that as proof that they were a couple.&amp;lt;ref name=homo/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Chris the [[card games|TCG]] gamer==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:409-CWCWeekP3.jpg|thumb|Chris stares down his youthful opponent.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Chris was pretty awful at all the games he played.|Mimms, summing up Chris&amp;lt;ref name=mimms2&amp;gt;[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow_up|Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}} Though he apparently spent plenty of money buying new cards at the store,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris_as_a_customer|Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A: Chris as a customer]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and built them into a sizable collection of themed decks, Chris didn't have any aptitude for deck-building or strategy in the Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh trading-card games. Even when playing against small children, he rarely won games or advanced in tournaments, although Mimms recounts one occasion where Chris managed to win a match on a day when most of the regular players were absent, and proudly hollered &amp;quot;I'M THE LEVEL-UP KING!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=mimms2/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris often declares that he was a gym leader in the store's Pokémon league (an older player who manages tournaments, keeps track of wins and losses, and so forth). It's mentioned on his [[Chris's resume|resume]], for instance, and he talks about it in the [[Father Call]]. However, his memory has apparently inflated his role considerably. &amp;quot;He wasn't actually a gym leader,&amp;quot; says Mimms, but rather a substitute who took the place of the regular gym leader on a few occasions. He also wasn't very good at the job, reportedly becoming angry and snapping at the players he was supposed to be taking care of.&amp;lt;ref name=mimms2/&amp;gt; This earned him his first ban from the store, lasting a month, which according to Lucas began on 4 April 2008.&amp;lt;ref name=ban/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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To Chris's very slight credit, Mimms says he did resist using his custom Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh cards in actual games.&amp;lt;ref name=mimms1/&amp;gt; Mimms and Lucas also noted that he played the [[Card games#UFS_(Ultimate_Fighting_System)_TCG|Universal Fighting System card game]], often playing &amp;quot;bimbo&amp;quot; characters such as Cassandra from the ''[[Soul Calibur]]'' series and [[CWC Fighter|Chun-li]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==The GAMe PLACe photograph==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Chrischannov2007.jpg|thumb|right|Blurry because [[Mimms]] was trying to be covert]]&lt;br /&gt;
In the fall of 2007, Chris discovered the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page devoted to him. There, he also discovered a blurry photograph of himself, which had been taken and posted to 4chan by Mimms and Lucas respectively.&lt;br /&gt;
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Though he'd already pretty thoroughly blown a gasket over the ED page, Chris went even crazier trying to discover the identity of the photographer. In an e-mail to [[Anna McLerran]] from [[November 2007]], he mentions pestering the staff of The GAMe PLACe to go through their anti-theft camera footage to find out who had taken the photo.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Chris_E-mails_2007#November|Chris e-mails: November 2007]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (Unsurprisingly, they weren't very cooperative.) According to Mimms, Chris complained about the photo and the ED page so loudly and frequently at the store that the management eventually threatened to kick him out if he didn't stop.&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris also complained to his mother, who apparently became as angry or more so. At one point, early in November, Chris's parents visited the store and interrogated Mimms as to the origin of the photo. After Mimms admitted that he had snapped the picture (but feigned ignorance as to how it found its way onto the internet), they threatened to take legal action, but never actually did so.&amp;lt;ref name=mimms2/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris's &amp;quot;investigations&amp;quot; continued off and on for months after he originally found the picture. In an e-mail to Megan (sent in [[March 2008]] and oddly situated in between desperate apologies for the porn he drew of her), he recounts an indirect confrontation with Lucas at The GAMe PLACe on 8 March.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|So it brought up to mind my first word being &amp;quot;Monkey&amp;quot;, so I told Mimms that. And with a turn around towards the accompanying Lucas, I said in his direction, &amp;quot;Well, that's something new you didn't know about &amp;quot;be-4&amp;quot; about this &amp;quot;Chan&amp;quot;. I noticed a look on his face like, &amp;quot;Wow, I can totally wail on that tidbit of information.&amp;quot; He said nothing.|Chris's idea of subtlety, from the [[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris_emails_her_some_detective_work.2C_Megan_likely_doesn.27t_give_a_shit|Megan e-mails]].}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, Lucas gave his own interesting take on the story.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|The funniest part about that is that I have no recollection of him saying that to me whatsoever. I had no idea I was even a suspect until I saw that email.|Lucas, [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Trolling_Chris_at_the_Game_Place|Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Chris gets the boot==&lt;br /&gt;
Chris's behavior offended the store's management in a number of ways. Aside from punting his gym-leader duties, scaring the small children he played card games with, picking fights with other players, and generally being a racist and homophobic creep, he would truck his video game consoles into The GAMe PLACe and take over the shop's flat-screen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sang along to [[Britney Spears]] during games, pitched fits inspired by his hatred of the [[Hex Bawx]] in public, and so on.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The trigger for his permanent ban in [[August 2008]] was a shouting match with a young black kid. That particular incident was merely the straw that broke the camel's back, though — &amp;quot;Mike was looking for any reason to ban him at this point,&amp;quot; says Mimms.&amp;lt;ref name=mimms1/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Predictably, Chris did his best to resist getting kicked out of the store. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[police]]. Despite a fierce response from [[Barbara Chandler]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and every indication is that Chris will never be allowed back into the store.&amp;lt;ref name=mimms1/&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris offers his own chronology and version of events. There, he claims that he was thrown out of the store much earlier than Mimms indicates, in June 2008. The so-called &amp;quot;Wii Incident&amp;quot;, according to Chris, was when Michael Snyder forced Chris to stop bogarting the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of children to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokemon. Chris got angry and wrote a letter, sign, or simply scrawled a note on the side of a card box stating &amp;quot;Michael Snyder Loves the &amp;quot;Fiddlesticks&amp;quot; out of Mary Lee Walsh&amp;quot;. This, Chris claimed, was Michael's last straw and he booted him then. &lt;br /&gt;
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According to the CWCipedia article for Megan Schroeder, Chris claims that Megan was there the day he was banned and claimed that she just stood there in shock, refusing to speak up for him. In reality, of course, she was simply disgusted by his behavior like any rational person would have been and relieved that his being kicked out of the store would be the last time Chris would ever be in her sight&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Megan_Schroeder&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Also, she refused to defend Chris not because of shock, but because of his sexual harassment, [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|destruction of her dignity]], anger issues and &lt;br /&gt;
overall immaturity, ultimately cementing the fact that nobody wants Chris to ever return to the store.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unbanning attempts==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode200Comment.PNG|thumb|Chris recounts flipping Michael Snyder the bird.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris has repeatedly attempted to overcome his ban and gain readmission to the store. As mentioned in [[Chris_E-mails_2008#July|a July 2008 e-mail]], Chris sent a letter to Michael Snyder shortly after his initial one-month ban. In [[March 2009]] he attempted to apologize in the best way he knew how: [[Apology to Game &amp;amp; Hobby Place|posting a video to YouTube on the off-chance the individual addressed would see it]]. This was [[Chris and remorse|not the most sincere apology in the world]], since Chris made it clear in a [[I_Am_The_TRUE,_Original_CCWC|later video]] that he doesn't really understand why he was thrown out in the first place. A month later, in [[April 2009]], Chris attempted to sneak into the store, but when a cashier recognized him and caught him, Chris ran.&lt;br /&gt;
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Almost two years after his initial ban from The GAMe PLACe Chris would try again to get the ban lifted. In the Jackie emails Chris reveals that he attempted to go to The GAMe PLACe after church on 11 [[April 2010]]. When one of the cashiers saw Chris and recognized him, he threatened to call the cops. Chris got angry and bolted. The next day Chris visited the store again to talk to Michael Snyder in an attempt to have the ban removed. However, the visit did not turn out in Chris's favor, as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|the audio from the incident]] shows. Michael refused to revoke the ban (later noting on YouTube, that Chris was actually reading the apology from a pre-written script&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&amp;amp;v=u_p6bShW97Y YouTube comment by Mike]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) and Chris took this about as well as could be expected; he flipped Michael off,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWq4pB_Vikw YouTube comment by Chris]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; yelled &amp;quot;JEW!&amp;quot; at him, and left the store in a huff. [[Chris and the law|The police were called]] about the incident, according to Mimms, but Chris was already long gone by the time they arrived; whether the police's involvement will continue remains to be seen.&lt;br /&gt;
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Later that day, Chris uploaded the audio of the incident to [[YouTube]], accompanied by a description soliciting harassment and &amp;quot;trolling&amp;quot; of Michael and his fellow employees. However, it was removed from the site in a matter of hours due to a &amp;quot;Terms of Use Violation&amp;quot;. Considering [[Chris and race|Chris's anti-Semitic remark]] directed at Michael, his invitation for others to harass him, and the possibly illegal nature of the recording, it's easy to see why it was pulled.&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris has never fully understood why he was kicked out of the store. According to Mimms, Chris didn't see what was wrong with his behavior at the time,&amp;lt;ref name=ban/&amp;gt; and he evidently hasn't reflected on the subject much in the intervening years. During the April 2010 visit to the store, the only possible grounds for his ban he could remember was the aforementioned &amp;quot;Wii incident.&amp;quot; Later, when he posted an ad on CWCipedia complaining about Snyder's refusal to lift the ban, Chris appeared to believe that the store manager refused to let him in because he hated him personally and [[Kick the Autistic|people with autism in general]].&lt;br /&gt;
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With Chris's continued failure to overturn the ban, it is clear that his chances of winning entry to The GAMe PLACe are almost as remote as the chances of his [[duck]] entering [[China]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Charlottesville Incident==&lt;br /&gt;
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On 4 [[June 2010]], Chris visited The GAMe PLACe. [[6 June 2010|He claimed]] that he wanted to take a photograph of Snyder to use as a dartboard, but when Snyder saw him with his camera outside, he chased Chris. Chris claimed that he tried to drive away but was accosted by Snyder, his daughter and the police. Snyder's version was more succinct:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by [[jerkop|the police]]. He took pictures of my daughter and tried to run me over with his [[car]]. they witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The police listened to Chris rant about the trolls for a while and eventually sent him home with a warning.&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.thegameplace.com/ Official website]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:The-Game-Place.jpg|thumb|The GAMe PLACe]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GamePlace2.jpg|thumb|Another angle, revealing The GAMe PLACe to be adjacent to a Staples store]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Chris would rarely ever shake anyones hand after a game, and when he did, he quickly followed up with hand sanitizer.|[[Mimms]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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'''The GAMe PLACe''' is a comic-book, game, card, toy, and hobby shop in [[Charlottesville]]. For several years, up until the summer of [[2008]], Chris hung out there on a regular basis, going there every Friday without fail to play the ''[[Pokémon]]'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' [[card games]]. The shop hosted the [[Wikipedia:Pokémon_Organized_Play#Pok.C3.A9mon_TCG_Leagues|Pokémon TCG League]] where Chris served as a self-proclaimed volunteer gym leader (though he was not endorsed in any way, and was largely simply tolerated by the store).&lt;br /&gt;
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After a long period of scaring off customers and being a confrontational douche, Chris was permanently kicked out of the store by one of the managers, [[Michael Snyder]], on 28 [[August 2008]]. Since then, Chris has attempted several times to regain access to the store, to no avail thanks to Michael's insistence.&lt;br /&gt;
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==People of note==&lt;br /&gt;
Chris originally met [[Megan Schroeder]] at The GAMe PLACe in [[2005]], where they bonded over their shared interest in Yu-Gi-Oh! Megan continued to hang out at the shop even after her friendship with Chris [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|collapsed]] in the spring of [[2008]], although their relationship by that point was strained to say the least. Once she broke off all contact with Chris, she did her best to ignore him entirely when they were at the store at the same time.&lt;br /&gt;
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The other two best-known patrons of the shop, aside from Chris himself, are [[Daniel Mimms]] and [[Lucas]]. The two friends are the primary source of most of what is known about Chris's behavior at The GAMe PLACe (and most of the information in this article), which they revealed during a detailed [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A|Q&amp;amp;A session]] on the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC forums]]. They're also famous for having taken and uploaded the first photograph of Chris to reach the internet, which Mimms snapped and Lucas uploaded to [[4-cent_garbage.com|4chan]] in the fall of [[2007]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Michael Snyder]], one of the store's managers (he isn't the owner, though he's sometimes mistakenly described as such) would eventually become one of Chris's real-life nemeses when he kicked Chris out of the store in the summer of 2008.&amp;lt;ref name=ban&amp;gt;[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris.27s_ban_from_the_store|Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A: Chris's ban from the store]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Chris's attitude at The GAMe PLACe==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sonichupunch.jpg|thumb|left|Chris acting his age.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TonyTyAndBriana.jpg|thumb|Some regulars.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In his early days at The GAMe PLACe, Chris's behavior seems to have been more &amp;quot;childlike,&amp;quot; for lack of a better word. According to Mimms, who was a regular at the store for the entire time Chris hung out there, Chris avoided using foul language when he first started gaming at the store.&amp;lt;ref name=homo&amp;gt;[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Racism_and_homophobia|Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A: Racism and homophobia]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He also never failed to show up for Pokémon games in his old [[Chris_and_fashion#Cosplaying_Chris|Ash Ketchum costume]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The costume was eventually retired, however (by the time of the 2007 photo, Chris was showing up in his usual colorful clown shirts and sporting the [[Sonichu medallion]]), and Chris's behavior grew more aggressive and vulgar over the years. According to Mimms and Lucas, Chris often became angry at his card-game opponents, even small children. An [[Megan_Emails,_Aug-Dec_2007#Megan_is_pissed_that_Chris_is_nosing_in_her_business|October 2007 e-mail]] from Megan mentions an incident where Chris was extremely threatening and insulting to a guy whom he thought was putting the moves on his gal-pal.&lt;br /&gt;
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Mimms recounted a few instances of Chris displaying his dislike and distrust of black people. He was openly suspicious of the young black kids he played Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh with, apparently because he thought they were going to make off with his cards.&amp;lt;ref name=mimms1&amp;gt;[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Initial_post|Mimms &amp;amp; Lucas Q&amp;amp;A: Initial post]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Chris also nearly managed to earn himself a beating from an older black gamer by the name of TJ:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Chris yells at him, &amp;quot;I'm going to smack your effing face down!&amp;quot; and TJ stands up like hes going to beat his ass. Chris shrinks back and and says &amp;quot;I mean your face down monster...&amp;quot;|Mimms, [[Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Likewise, Chris's homophobia occasionally surfaced while he was hanging out at the shop. A gay regular at the shop by the name of Eric was the target of mockery and threats from Chris (although Mimms noted that, for obvious reasons, Chris wasn't likely to ever do him any great physical harm).&amp;lt;ref name=homo/&amp;gt; Chris also assumed that two of the shop's regulars were gay because they happened to exchange a few jokingly romantic remarks — his literal mind took that as proof that they were a couple.&amp;lt;ref name=homo/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Chris the [[card games|TCG]] gamer==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:409-CWCWeekP3.jpg|thumb|Chris stares down his youthful opponent.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Chris was pretty awful at all the games he played.|Mimms, summing up Chris&amp;lt;ref name=mimms2&amp;gt;[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow_up|Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}} Though he apparently spent plenty of money buying new cards at the store,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris_as_a_customer|Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A: Chris as a customer]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and built them into a sizable collection of themed decks, Chris didn't have any aptitude for deck-building or strategy in the Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh trading-card games. Even when playing against small children, he rarely won games or advanced in tournaments, although Mimms recounts one occasion where Chris managed to win a match on a day when most of the regular players were absent, and proudly hollered &amp;quot;I'M THE LEVEL-UP KING!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=mimms2/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris often declares that he was a gym leader in the store's Pokémon league (an older player who manages tournaments, keeps track of wins and losses, and so forth). It's mentioned on his [[Chris's resume|resume]], for instance, and he talks about it in the [[Father Call]]. However, his memory has apparently inflated his role considerably. &amp;quot;He wasn't actually a gym leader,&amp;quot; says Mimms, but rather a substitute who took the place of the regular gym leader on a few occasions. He also wasn't very good at the job, reportedly becoming angry and snapping at the players he was supposed to be taking care of.&amp;lt;ref name=mimms2/&amp;gt; This earned him his first ban from the store, lasting a month, which according to Lucas began on 4 April 2008.&amp;lt;ref name=ban/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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To Chris's very slight credit, Mimms says he did resist using his custom Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh cards in actual games.&amp;lt;ref name=mimms1/&amp;gt; Mimms and Lucas also noted that he played the [[Card games#UFS_(Ultimate_Fighting_System)_TCG|Universal Fighting System card game]], often playing &amp;quot;bimbo&amp;quot; characters such as Cassandra from the ''[[Soul Calibur]]'' series and [[CWC Fighter|Chun-li]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==The GAMe PLACe photograph==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Chrischannov2007.jpg|thumb|right|Blurry because [[Mimms]] was trying to be covert]]&lt;br /&gt;
In the fall of 2007, Chris discovered the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page devoted to him. There, he also discovered a blurry photograph of himself, which had been taken and posted to 4chan by Mimms and Lucas respectively.&lt;br /&gt;
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Though he'd already pretty thoroughly blown a gasket over the ED page, Chris went even crazier trying to discover the identity of the photographer. In an e-mail to [[Anna McLerran]] from [[November 2007]], he mentions pestering the staff of The GAMe PLACe to go through their anti-theft camera footage to find out who had taken the photo.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Chris_E-mails_2007#November|Chris e-mails: November 2007]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (Unsurprisingly, they weren't very cooperative.) According to Mimms, Chris complained about the photo and the ED page so loudly and frequently at the store that the management eventually threatened to kick him out if he didn't stop.&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris also complained to his mother, who apparently became as angry or more so. At one point, early in November, Chris's parents visited the store and interrogated Mimms as to the origin of the photo. After Mimms admitted that he had snapped the picture (but feigned ignorance as to how it found its way onto the internet), they threatened to take legal action, but never actually did so.&amp;lt;ref name=mimms2/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris's &amp;quot;investigations&amp;quot; continued off and on for months after he originally found the picture. In an e-mail to Megan (sent in [[March 2008]] and oddly situated in between desperate apologies for the porn he drew of her), he recounts an indirect confrontation with Lucas at The GAMe PLACe on 8 March.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|So it brought up to mind my first word being &amp;quot;Monkey&amp;quot;, so I told Mimms that. And with a turn around towards the accompanying Lucas, I said in his direction, &amp;quot;Well, that's something new you didn't know about &amp;quot;be-4&amp;quot; about this &amp;quot;Chan&amp;quot;. I noticed a look on his face like, &amp;quot;Wow, I can totally wail on that tidbit of information.&amp;quot; He said nothing.|Chris's idea of subtlety, from the [[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris_emails_her_some_detective_work.2C_Megan_likely_doesn.27t_give_a_shit|Megan e-mails]].}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, Lucas gave his own interesting take on the story.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|The funniest part about that is that I have no recollection of him saying that to me whatsoever. I had no idea I was even a suspect until I saw that email.|Lucas, [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Trolling_Chris_at_the_Game_Place|Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Chris gets the boot==&lt;br /&gt;
Chris's behavior offended the store's management in a number of ways. Aside from punting his gym-leader duties, scaring the small children he played card games with, picking fights with other players, and generally being a racist and homophobic creep, he would truck his video game consoles into The GAMe PLACe and take over the shop's flat-screen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sang along to [[Britney Spears]] during games, pitched fits inspired by his hatred of the [[Hex Bawx]] in public, and so on.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The trigger for his permanent ban in [[August 2008]] was a shouting match with a young black kid. That particular incident was merely the straw that broke the camel's back, though — &amp;quot;Mike was looking for any reason to ban him at this point,&amp;quot; says Mimms.&amp;lt;ref name=mimms1/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Predictably, Chris did his best to resist getting kicked out of the store. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[police]]. Despite a fierce response from [[Barbara Chandler]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and every indication is that Chris will never be allowed back into the store.&amp;lt;ref name=mimms1/&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris offers his own chronology and version of events. There, he claims that he was thrown out of the store much earlier than Mimms indicates, in June 2008. The so-called &amp;quot;Wii Incident&amp;quot;, according to Chris, was when Michael Snyder forced Chris to stop bogarting the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of children to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokemon. Chris got angry and wrote a letter, sign, or simply scrawled a note on the side of a card box stating &amp;quot;Michael Snyder Loves the &amp;quot;Fiddlesticks&amp;quot; out of Mary Lee Walsh&amp;quot;. This, Chris claimed, was Michael's last straw and he booted him then. &lt;br /&gt;
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According to the CWCipedia article for Megan Schroeder, Chris claims that Megan was there the day he was banned and claimed that she just stood there in shock, refusing to speak up for him. In reality, of course, she was simply disgusted by his behavior like any rational person would have been and relieved that his being kicked out of the store would be the last time Chris would ever be in her sight&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Megan_Schroeder&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Also, she refused to defend Chris not because of shock, but because of his sexual harassment, [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|destruction of her dignity]], anger issues and &lt;br /&gt;
overall immaturity, ultimately cementing the fact that nobody wants Chris to ever return to the store.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unbanning attempts==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode200Comment.PNG|thumb|Chris recounts flipping Michael Snyder the bird.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris has repeatedly attempted to overcome his ban and gain readmission to the store. As mentioned in [[Chris_E-mails_2008#July|a July 2008 e-mail]], Chris sent a letter to Michael Snyder shortly after his initial one-month ban. In [[March 2009]] he attempted to apologize in the best way he knew how: [[Apology to Game &amp;amp; Hobby Place|posting a video to YouTube on the off-chance the individual addressed would see it]]. This was [[Chris and remorse|not the most sincere apology in the world]], since Chris made it clear in a [[I_Am_The_TRUE,_Original_CCWC|later video]] that he doesn't really understand why he was thrown out in the first place. A month later, in [[April 2009]], Chris attempted to sneak into the store, but when a cashier recognized him and caught him, Chris ran.&lt;br /&gt;
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Almost two years after his initial ban from The GAMe PLACe Chris would try again to get the ban lifted. In the Jackie emails Chris reveals that he attempted to go to The GAMe PLACe after church on 11 [[April 2010]]. When one of the cashiers saw Chris and recognized him, he threatened to call the cops. Chris got angry and bolted. The next day Chris visited the store again to talk to Michael Snyder in an attempt to have the ban removed. However, the visit did not turn out in Chris's favor, as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|the audio from the incident]] shows. Michael refused to revoke the ban (later noting on YouTube, that Chris was actually reading the apology from a pre-written script&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&amp;amp;v=u_p6bShW97Y YouTube comment by Mike]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) and Chris took this about as well as could be expected; he flipped Michael off,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWq4pB_Vikw YouTube comment by Chris]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; yelled &amp;quot;JEW!&amp;quot; at him, and left the store in a huff. [[Chris and the law|The police were called]] about the incident, according to Mimms, but Chris was already long gone by the time they arrived; whether the police's involvement will continue remains to be seen.&lt;br /&gt;
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Later that day, Chris uploaded the audio of the incident to [[YouTube]], accompanied by a description soliciting harassment and &amp;quot;trolling&amp;quot; of Michael and his fellow employees. However, it was removed from the site in a matter of hours due to a &amp;quot;Terms of Use Violation&amp;quot;. Considering [[Chris and race|Chris's anti-Semitic remark]] directed at Michael, his invitation for others to harass him, and the possibly illegal nature of the recording, it's easy to see why it was pulled.&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris has never fully understood why he was kicked out of the store. According to Mimms, Chris didn't see what was wrong with his behavior at the time,&amp;lt;ref name=ban/&amp;gt; and he evidently hasn't reflected on the subject much in the intervening years. During the April 2010 visit to the store, the only possible grounds for his ban he could remember was the aforementioned &amp;quot;Wii incident.&amp;quot; Later, when he posted an ad on CWCipedia complaining about Snyder's refusal to lift the ban, Chris appeared to believe that the store manager refused to let him in because he hated him personally and [[Kick the Autistic|people with autism in general]].&lt;br /&gt;
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With Chris's continued failure to overturn the ban, it is clear that his chances of winning entry to The GAMe PLACe are almost as remote as the chances of his [[duck]] entering [[China]].&lt;br /&gt;
{{clear}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Charlottesville Incident==&lt;br /&gt;
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On 4 [[June 2010]], Chris visited The GAMe PLACe. [[6 June 2010|He claimed]] that he wanted to take a photograph of Snyder to use as a dartboard, but when Snyder saw him with his camera outside, he chased Chris. Chris claimed that he tried to drive away but was accosted by Snyder, his daughter and the police. Snyder's version was more succinct:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by [[jerkop|the police]]. He took pictures of my daughter and tried to run me over with his [[car]]. they witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The police listened to Chris rant about the trolls for a while and eventually sent him home with a warning.&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.thegameplace.com/ Official website]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Places}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Attraction Locations]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=The_GAMe_PLACe&amp;diff=103139</id>
		<title>The GAMe PLACe</title>
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		<updated>2010-07-08T23:16:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: Undo revision 103138 by Travislikesbeer (Talk)&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:The-Game-Place.jpg|thumb|The GAMe PLACe]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GamePlace2.jpg|thumb|Another angle, revealing The GAMe PLACe to be adjacent to a Staples store]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Chris would rarely ever shake anyones hand after a game, and when he did, he quickly followed up with hand sanitizer.|[[Mimms]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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'''The GAMe PLACe''' is a comic-book, game, card, toy, and hobby shop in [[Charlottesville]]. For several years, up until the summer of [[2008]], Chris hung out there on a regular basis, going there every Friday without fail to play the ''[[Pokémon]]'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' [[card games]]. The shop hosted the [[Wikipedia:Pokémon_Organized_Play#Pok.C3.A9mon_TCG_Leagues|Pokémon TCG League]] where Chris served as a self-proclaimed volunteer gym leader (though he was not endorsed in any way, and was largely simply tolerated by the store).&lt;br /&gt;
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After a long period of scaring off customers and being a confrontational douche, Chris was permanently kicked out of the store by one of the managers, [[Michael Snyder]], on 28 [[August 2008]]. Since then, Chris has attempted several times to regain access to the store, to no avail thanks to Michael's insistence.&lt;br /&gt;
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==People of note==&lt;br /&gt;
Chris originally met [[Megan Schroeder]] at The GAMe PLACe in [[2005]], where they bonded over their shared interest in Yu-Gi-Oh! Megan continued to hang out at the shop even after her friendship with Chris [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|collapsed]] in the spring of [[2008]], although their relationship by that point was strained to say the least. Once she broke off all contact with Chris, she did her best to ignore him entirely when they were at the store at the same time.&lt;br /&gt;
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The other two best-known patrons of the shop, aside from Chris himself, are [[Daniel Mimms]] and [[Lucas]]. The two friends are the primary source of most of what is known about Chris's behavior at The GAMe PLACe (and most of the information in this article), which they revealed during a detailed [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A|Q&amp;amp;A session]] on the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC forums]]. They're also famous for having taken and uploaded the first photograph of Chris to reach the internet, which Mimms snapped and Lucas uploaded to [[4-cent_garbage.com|4chan]] in the fall of [[2007]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Michael Snyder]], one of the store's managers (he isn't the owner, though he's sometimes mistakenly described as such) would eventually become one of Chris's real-life nemeses when he kicked Chris out of the store in the summer of 2008.&amp;lt;ref name=ban&amp;gt;[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris.27s_ban_from_the_store|Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A: Chris's ban from the store]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Chris's attitude at The GAMe PLACe==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sonichupunch.jpg|thumb|left|Chris acting his age.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TonyTyAndBriana.jpg|thumb|Some regulars.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In his early days at The GAMe PLACe, Chris's behavior seems to have been more &amp;quot;childlike,&amp;quot; for lack of a better word. According to Mimms, who was a regular at the store for the entire time Chris hung out there, Chris avoided using foul language when he first started gaming at the store.&amp;lt;ref name=homo&amp;gt;[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Racism_and_homophobia|Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A: Racism and homophobia]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He also never failed to show up for Pokémon games in his old [[Chris_and_fashion#Cosplaying_Chris|Ash Ketchum costume]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The costume was eventually retired, however (by the time of the 2007 photo, Chris was showing up in his usual colorful clown shirts and sporting the [[Sonichu medallion]]), and Chris's behavior grew more aggressive and vulgar over the years. According to Mimms and Lucas, Chris often became angry at his card-game opponents, even small children. An [[Megan_Emails,_Aug-Dec_2007#Megan_is_pissed_that_Chris_is_nosing_in_her_business|October 2007 e-mail]] from Megan mentions an incident where Chris was extremely threatening and insulting to a guy whom he thought was putting the moves on his gal-pal.&lt;br /&gt;
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Mimms recounted a few instances of Chris displaying his dislike and distrust of black people. He was openly suspicious of the young black kids he played Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh with, apparently because he thought they were going to make off with his cards.&amp;lt;ref name=mimms1&amp;gt;[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Initial_post|Mimms &amp;amp; Lucas Q&amp;amp;A: Initial post]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Chris also nearly managed to earn himself a beating from an older black gamer by the name of TJ:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Chris yells at him, &amp;quot;I'm going to smack your effing face down!&amp;quot; and TJ stands up like hes going to beat his ass. Chris shrinks back and and says &amp;quot;I mean your face down monster...&amp;quot;|Mimms, [[Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Likewise, Chris's homophobia occasionally surfaced while he was hanging out at the shop. A gay regular at the shop by the name of Eric was the target of mockery and threats from Chris (although Mimms noted that, for obvious reasons, Chris wasn't likely to ever do him any great physical harm).&amp;lt;ref name=homo/&amp;gt; Chris also assumed that two of the shop's regulars were gay because they happened to exchange a few jokingly romantic remarks — his literal mind took that as proof that they were a couple.&amp;lt;ref name=homo/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Chris the [[card games|TCG]] gamer==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:409-CWCWeekP3.jpg|thumb|Chris stares down his youthful opponent.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Chris was pretty awful at all the games he played.|Mimms, summing up Chris&amp;lt;ref name=mimms2&amp;gt;[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow_up|Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}} Though he apparently spent plenty of money buying new cards at the store,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris_as_a_customer|Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A: Chris as a customer]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and built them into a sizable collection of themed decks, Chris didn't have any aptitude for deck-building or strategy in the Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh trading-card games. Even when playing against small children, he rarely won games or advanced in tournaments, although Mimms recounts one occasion where Chris managed to win a match on a day when most of the regular players were absent, and proudly hollered &amp;quot;I'M THE LEVEL-UP KING!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=mimms2/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris often declares that he was a gym leader in the store's Pokémon league (an older player who manages tournaments, keeps track of wins and losses, and so forth). It's mentioned on his [[Chris's resume|resume]], for instance, and he talks about it in the [[Father Call]]. However, his memory has apparently inflated his role considerably. &amp;quot;He wasn't actually a gym leader,&amp;quot; says Mimms, but rather a substitute who took the place of the regular gym leader on a few occasions. He also wasn't very good at the job, reportedly becoming angry and snapping at the players he was supposed to be taking care of.&amp;lt;ref name=mimms2/&amp;gt; This earned him his first ban from the store, lasting a month, which according to Lucas began on 4 April 2008.&amp;lt;ref name=ban/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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To Chris's very slight credit, Mimms says he did resist using his custom Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh cards in actual games.&amp;lt;ref name=mimms1/&amp;gt; Mimms and Lucas also noted that he played the [[Card games#UFS_(Ultimate_Fighting_System)_TCG|Universal Fighting System card game]], often playing &amp;quot;bimbo&amp;quot; characters such as Cassandra from the ''[[Soul Calibur]]'' series and [[CWC Fighter|Chun-li]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==The GAMe PLACe photograph==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Chrischannov2007.jpg|thumb|right|Blurry because [[Mimms]] was trying to be covert]]&lt;br /&gt;
In the fall of 2007, Chris discovered the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page devoted to him. There, he also discovered a blurry photograph of himself, which had been taken and posted to 4chan by Mimms and Lucas respectively.&lt;br /&gt;
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Though he'd already pretty thoroughly blown a gasket over the ED page, Chris went even crazier trying to discover the identity of the photographer. In an e-mail to [[Anna McLerran]] from [[November 2007]], he mentions pestering the staff of The GAMe PLACe to go through their anti-theft camera footage to find out who had taken the photo.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Chris_E-mails_2007#November|Chris e-mails: November 2007]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (Unsurprisingly, they weren't very cooperative.) According to Mimms, Chris complained about the photo and the ED page so loudly and frequently at the store that the management eventually threatened to kick him out if he didn't stop.&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris also complained to his mother, who apparently became as angry or more so. At one point, early in November, Chris's parents visited the store and interrogated Mimms as to the origin of the photo. After Mimms admitted that he had snapped the picture (but feigned ignorance as to how it found its way onto the internet), they threatened to take legal action, but never actually did so.&amp;lt;ref name=mimms2/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris's &amp;quot;investigations&amp;quot; continued off and on for months after he originally found the picture. In an e-mail to Megan (sent in [[March 2008]] and oddly situated in between desperate apologies for the porn he drew of her), he recounts an indirect confrontation with Lucas at The GAMe PLACe on 8 March.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|So it brought up to mind my first word being &amp;quot;Monkey&amp;quot;, so I told Mimms that. And with a turn around towards the accompanying Lucas, I said in his direction, &amp;quot;Well, that's something new you didn't know about &amp;quot;be-4&amp;quot; about this &amp;quot;Chan&amp;quot;. I noticed a look on his face like, &amp;quot;Wow, I can totally wail on that tidbit of information.&amp;quot; He said nothing.|Chris's idea of subtlety, from the [[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris_emails_her_some_detective_work.2C_Megan_likely_doesn.27t_give_a_shit|Megan e-mails]].}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, Lucas gave his own interesting take on the story.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|The funniest part about that is that I have no recollection of him saying that to me whatsoever. I had no idea I was even a suspect until I saw that email.|Lucas, [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Trolling_Chris_at_the_Game_Place|Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Chris gets the boot==&lt;br /&gt;
Chris's behavior offended the store's management in a number of ways. Aside from punting his gym-leader duties, scaring the small children he played card games with, picking fights with other players, and generally being a racist and homophobic creep, he would truck his video game consoles into The GAMe PLACe and take over the shop's flat-screen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sang along to [[Britney Spears]] during games, pitched fits inspired by his hatred of the [[Hex Bawx]] in public, and so on.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The trigger for his permanent ban in [[August 2008]] was a shouting match with a young black kid. That particular incident was merely the straw that broke the camel's back, though — &amp;quot;Mike was looking for any reason to ban him at this point,&amp;quot; says Mimms.&amp;lt;ref name=mimms1/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Predictably, Chris did his best to resist getting kicked out of the store. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[police]]. Despite a fierce response from [[Barbara Chandler]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and every indication is that Chris will never be allowed back into the store.&amp;lt;ref name=mimms1/&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris offers his own chronology and version of events. There, he claims that he was thrown out of the store much earlier than Mimms indicates, in June 2008. The so-called &amp;quot;Wii Incident&amp;quot;, according to Chris, was when Michael Snyder forced Chris to stop bogarting the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of children to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokemon. Chris got angry and wrote a letter, sign, or simply scrawled a note on the side of a card box stating &amp;quot;Michael Snyder Loves the &amp;quot;Fiddlesticks&amp;quot; out of Mary Lee Walsh&amp;quot;. This, Chris claimed, was Michael's last straw and he booted him then. &lt;br /&gt;
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According to the CWCipedia article for Megan Schroeder, Chris claims that Megan was there the day he was banned and claimed that she just stood there in shock, refusing to speak up for him. In reality, of course, she was simply disgusted by his behavior like any rational person would have been and relieved that his being kicked out of the store would be the last time Chris would ever be in her sight&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Megan_Schroeder&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Also, she refused to defend Chris not because of shock, but because of his sexual harassment, [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|destruction of her dignity]], anger issues and &lt;br /&gt;
overall immaturity, ultimately cementing the fact that nobody wants Chris to ever return to the store.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unbanning attempts==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode200Comment.PNG|thumb|Chris recounts flipping Michael Snyder the bird.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris has repeatedly attempted to overcome his ban and gain readmission to the store. As mentioned in [[Chris_E-mails_2008#July|a July 2008 e-mail]], Chris sent a letter to Michael Snyder shortly after his initial one-month ban. In [[March 2009]] he attempted to apologize in the best way he knew how: [[Apology to Game &amp;amp; Hobby Place|posting a video to YouTube on the off-chance the individual addressed would see it]]. This was [[Chris and remorse|not the most sincere apology in the world]], since Chris made it clear in a [[I_Am_The_TRUE,_Original_CCWC|later video]] that he doesn't really understand why he was thrown out in the first place. A month later, in [[April 2009]], Chris attempted to sneak into the store, but when a cashier recognized him and caught him, Chris ran.&lt;br /&gt;
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Almost two years after his initial ban from The GAMe PLACe Chris would try again to get the ban lifted. In the Jackie emails Chris reveals that he attempted to go to The GAMe PLACe after church on 11 [[April 2010]]. When one of the cashiers saw Chris and recognized him, he threatened to call the cops. Chris got angry and bolted. The next day Chris visited the store again to talk to Michael Snyder in an attempt to have the ban removed. However, the visit did not turn out in Chris's favor, as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|the audio from the incident]] shows. Michael refused to revoke the ban (later noting on YouTube, that Chris was actually reading the apology from a pre-written script&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&amp;amp;v=u_p6bShW97Y YouTube comment by Mike]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) and Chris took this about as well as could be expected; he flipped Michael off,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWq4pB_Vikw YouTube comment by Chris]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; yelled &amp;quot;JEW!&amp;quot; at him, and left the store in a huff. [[Chris and the law|The police were called]] about the incident, according to Mimms, but Chris was already long gone by the time they arrived; whether the police's involvement will continue remains to be seen.&lt;br /&gt;
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Later that day, Chris uploaded the audio of the incident to [[YouTube]], accompanied by a description soliciting harassment and &amp;quot;trolling&amp;quot; of Michael and his fellow employees. However, it was removed from the site in a matter of hours due to a &amp;quot;Terms of Use Violation&amp;quot;. Considering [[Chris and race|Chris's anti-Semitic remark]] directed at Michael, his invitation for others to harass him, and the possibly illegal nature of the recording, it's easy to see why it was pulled.&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris has never fully understood why he was kicked out of the store. According to Mimms, Chris didn't see what was wrong with his behavior at the time,&amp;lt;ref name=ban/&amp;gt; and he evidently hasn't reflected on the subject much in the intervening years. During the April 2010 visit to the store, the only possible grounds for his ban he could remember was the aforementioned &amp;quot;Wii incident.&amp;quot; Later, when he posted an ad on CWCipedia complaining about Snyder's refusal to lift the ban, Chris appeared to believe that the store manager refused to let him in because he hated him personally and [[Kick the Autistic|people with autism in general]].&lt;br /&gt;
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With Chris's continued failure to overturn the ban, it is clear that his chances of winning entry to The GAMe PLACe are almost as remote as the chances of his [[duck]] entering [[China]].&lt;br /&gt;
{{clear}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Charlottesville Incident==&lt;br /&gt;
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On 4 [[June 2010]], Chris visited The GAMe PLACe. [[6 June 2010|He claimed]] that he wanted to take a photograph of Snyder to use as a dartboard, but when Snyder saw him with his camera outside, he chased Chris. Chris claimed that he tried to drive away but was accosted by Snyder, his daughter and the police. Snyder's version was more succinct:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by [[jerkop|the police]]. He took pictures of my daughter and tried to run me over with his [[car]]. they witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The police listened to Chris rant about the trolls for a while and eventually sent him home with a warning.&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.thegameplace.com/ Official website]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Places}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Attraction Locations]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kei</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Clydec&amp;diff=103137</id>
		<title>User talk:Clydec</title>
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		<updated>2010-07-08T23:15:32Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kei: /* The GAMe PLACe */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Previously on User Talk:&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[User: Clydec/Archive 1]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Do you own a Hex-Box or life upgrade? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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If so, see also: {{tl|Hex-Box}} and/or {{tl|PS3}} --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 16:47, 19 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*no [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 16:48, 19 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Just Curious about art==&lt;br /&gt;
Do you know how to draw or do anything artistic? (not AUTSITIC, Artistic) [[User:BabyNeko|BabyNeko]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Yo ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey Clyde? Can you ban 16BitAlex? He's being a whiney bitch and an attention whore now and he's just stirring up trouble. I present my evidence against him; [[User:16BitAlex|His user page]], and [[User talk:Delabonte#Messages to Alex|Delabonte's talk page,]]. I know you probably won't, but it's worth a shot. Can you get rid of him? Please? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:44, 26 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Hold on. Fucker's blanked the page. Go [http://www.cogsdev.org/w/index.php?title=User:16BitAlex&amp;amp;oldid=99367 here]. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:47, 26 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ban me ==&lt;br /&gt;
Someone keeps getting into my account...by that someone I mean my siblings....please just ban me.. [[User:BabyNeko|BabyNeko]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*Are you not able to change a password? --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 11:56, 27 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well...The thing is..IDK who really is getting into it...I think it might be my siblings...or it might be my parents monitoring shit. But still...just ban me...I dont care... [[User:BabyNeko|BabyNeko]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*You, sir, are an idiot. A rolled gold [[User:16BitAlex]] sized idiot. What is it with you Asperpedia morons? --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 12:16, 27 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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......Thats it.....thats fucking it......Just ban me...[[User:BabyNeko|BabyNeko]]&lt;br /&gt;
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no [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 18:34, 27 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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If you want a suggestion: type out some random giberish and change your password to that. Then when you next log out you can't ever get back in because you don't know the password anymore. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 18:55, 27 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Fucking passwords! How do they work!?!?! [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 19:42, 27 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Fucking memes, how do they work? [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 20:26, 27 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:59, 27 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Goodbye.&lt;br /&gt;
:Fucking finally, you've dragged this on for half a day now. Fucking attention whore trying to whore attention. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 21:25, 27 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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you know, it really takes one to know one.&lt;br /&gt;
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The lucky ones are gonna be the first to go! [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 21:45, 27 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Lieisacake? Never EVER, make me look up a meme again. I just wasted so much of my time just browsing Encyclopedia Daramatica it's unreal. That said, I feel I am wiser for it. ICP is retarded. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 22:05, 27 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Thanks==&lt;br /&gt;
I'd like to thank you for fixing my fuck up.--[[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 01:59, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*It's not your fault, a lot of people think every single &amp;quot;sweetheart&amp;quot; was in fact a blowup doll and that they &amp;quot;broke up&amp;quot; with Chris when he popped them by taking the wrong position.  This was the mistake you made.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 02:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**jesus christ it's like you never learn [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 03:11, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Thanks again, and apologies for not shutting up, I hope for forgivness.--[[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 17:19, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The GAMe PLACe ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd hate to keep being a fag about the vandalism, but since it seems to be directed against the game place and there hasn't been any new news from that front, it might be less trouble if it were protected for a while. -[[User:Kei|Kei]] 23:15, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>The GAMe PLACe</title>
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:The-Game-Place.jpg|thumb|The GAMe PLACe]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GamePlace2.jpg|thumb|Another angle, revealing The GAMe PLACe to be adjacent to a Staples store]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Chris would rarely ever shake anyones hand after a game, and when he did, he quickly followed up with hand sanitizer.|[[Mimms]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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'''The GAMe PLACe''' is a comic-book, game, card, toy, and hobby shop in [[Charlottesville]]. For several years, up until the summer of [[2008]], Chris hung out there on a regular basis, going there every Friday without fail to play the ''[[Pokémon]]'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' [[card games]]. The shop hosted the [[Wikipedia:Pokémon_Organized_Play#Pok.C3.A9mon_TCG_Leagues|Pokémon TCG League]] where Chris served as a self-proclaimed volunteer gym leader (though he was not endorsed in any way, and was largely simply tolerated by the store).&lt;br /&gt;
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After a long period of scaring off customers and being a confrontational douche, Chris was permanently kicked out of the store by one of the managers, [[Michael Snyder]], on 28 [[August 2008]]. Since then, Chris has attempted several times to regain access to the store, to no avail thanks to Michael's insistence.&lt;br /&gt;
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==People of note==&lt;br /&gt;
Chris originally met [[Megan Schroeder]] at The GAMe PLACe in [[2005]], where they bonded over their shared interest in Yu-Gi-Oh! Megan continued to hang out at the shop even after her friendship with Chris [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|collapsed]] in the spring of [[2008]], although their relationship by that point was strained to say the least. Once she broke off all contact with Chris, she did her best to ignore him entirely when they were at the store at the same time.&lt;br /&gt;
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The other two best-known patrons of the shop, aside from Chris himself, are [[Daniel Mimms]] and [[Lucas]]. The two friends are the primary source of most of what is known about Chris's behavior at The GAMe PLACe (and most of the information in this article), which they revealed during a detailed [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A|Q&amp;amp;A session]] on the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC forums]]. They're also famous for having taken and uploaded the first photograph of Chris to reach the internet, which Mimms snapped and Lucas uploaded to [[4-cent_garbage.com|4chan]] in the fall of [[2007]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Michael Snyder]], one of the store's managers (he isn't the owner, though he's sometimes mistakenly described as such) would eventually become one of Chris's real-life nemeses when he kicked Chris out of the store in the summer of 2008.&amp;lt;ref name=ban&amp;gt;[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris.27s_ban_from_the_store|Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A: Chris's ban from the store]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Chris's attitude at The GAMe PLACe==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sonichupunch.jpg|thumb|left|Chris acting his age.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TonyTyAndBriana.jpg|thumb|Some regulars.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In his early days at The GAMe PLACe, Chris's behavior seems to have been more &amp;quot;childlike,&amp;quot; for lack of a better word. According to Mimms, who was a regular at the store for the entire time Chris hung out there, Chris avoided using foul language when he first started gaming at the store.&amp;lt;ref name=homo&amp;gt;[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Racism_and_homophobia|Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A: Racism and homophobia]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He also never failed to show up for Pokémon games in his old [[Chris_and_fashion#Cosplaying_Chris|Ash Ketchum costume]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The costume was eventually retired, however (by the time of the 2007 photo, Chris was showing up in his usual colorful clown shirts and sporting the [[Sonichu medallion]]), and Chris's behavior grew more aggressive and vulgar over the years. According to Mimms and Lucas, Chris often became angry at his card-game opponents, even small children. An [[Megan_Emails,_Aug-Dec_2007#Megan_is_pissed_that_Chris_is_nosing_in_her_business|October 2007 e-mail]] from Megan mentions an incident where Chris was extremely threatening and insulting to a guy whom he thought was putting the moves on his gal-pal.&lt;br /&gt;
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Mimms recounted a few instances of Chris displaying his dislike and distrust of black people. He was openly suspicious of the young black kids he played Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh with, apparently because he thought they were going to make off with his cards.&amp;lt;ref name=mimms1&amp;gt;[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Initial_post|Mimms &amp;amp; Lucas Q&amp;amp;A: Initial post]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Chris also nearly managed to earn himself a beating from an older black gamer by the name of TJ:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Chris yells at him, &amp;quot;I'm going to smack your effing face down!&amp;quot; and TJ stands up like hes going to beat his ass. Chris shrinks back and and says &amp;quot;I mean your face down monster...&amp;quot;|Mimms, [[Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Likewise, Chris's homophobia occasionally surfaced while he was hanging out at the shop. A gay regular at the shop by the name of Eric was the target of mockery and threats from Chris (although Mimms noted that, for obvious reasons, Chris wasn't likely to ever do him any great physical harm).&amp;lt;ref name=homo/&amp;gt; Chris also assumed that two of the shop's regulars were gay because they happened to exchange a few jokingly romantic remarks — his literal mind took that as proof that they were a couple.&amp;lt;ref name=homo/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Chris the [[card games|TCG]] gamer==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:409-CWCWeekP3.jpg|thumb|Chris stares down his youthful opponent.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Chris was pretty awful at all the games he played.|Mimms, summing up Chris&amp;lt;ref name=mimms2&amp;gt;[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Follow_up|Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}} Though he apparently spent plenty of money buying new cards at the store,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris_as_a_customer|Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A: Chris as a customer]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and built them into a sizable collection of themed decks, Chris didn't have any aptitude for deck-building or strategy in the Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh trading-card games. Even when playing against small children, he rarely won games or advanced in tournaments, although Mimms recounts one occasion where Chris managed to win a match on a day when most of the regular players were absent, and proudly hollered &amp;quot;I'M THE LEVEL-UP KING!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=mimms2/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris often declares that he was a gym leader in the store's Pokémon league (an older player who manages tournaments, keeps track of wins and losses, and so forth). It's mentioned on his [[Chris's resume|resume]], for instance, and he talks about it in the [[Father Call]]. However, his memory has apparently inflated his role considerably. &amp;quot;He wasn't actually a gym leader,&amp;quot; says Mimms, but rather a substitute who took the place of the regular gym leader on a few occasions. He also wasn't very good at the job, reportedly becoming angry and snapping at the players he was supposed to be taking care of.&amp;lt;ref name=mimms2/&amp;gt; This earned him his first ban from the store, lasting a month, which according to Lucas began on 4 April 2008.&amp;lt;ref name=ban/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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To Chris's very slight credit, Mimms says he did resist using his custom Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh cards in actual games.&amp;lt;ref name=mimms1/&amp;gt; Mimms and Lucas also noted that he played the [[Card games#UFS_(Ultimate_Fighting_System)_TCG|Universal Fighting System card game]], often playing &amp;quot;bimbo&amp;quot; characters such as Cassandra from the ''[[Soul Calibur]]'' series and [[CWC Fighter|Chun-li]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==The GAMe PLACe photograph==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Chrischannov2007.jpg|thumb|right|Blurry because [[Mimms]] was trying to be covert]]&lt;br /&gt;
In the fall of 2007, Chris discovered the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page devoted to him. There, he also discovered a blurry photograph of himself, which had been taken and posted to 4chan by Mimms and Lucas respectively.&lt;br /&gt;
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Though he'd already pretty thoroughly blown a gasket over the ED page, Chris went even crazier trying to discover the identity of the photographer. In an e-mail to [[Anna McLerran]] from [[November 2007]], he mentions pestering the staff of The GAMe PLACe to go through their anti-theft camera footage to find out who had taken the photo.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Chris_E-mails_2007#November|Chris e-mails: November 2007]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (Unsurprisingly, they weren't very cooperative.) According to Mimms, Chris complained about the photo and the ED page so loudly and frequently at the store that the management eventually threatened to kick him out if he didn't stop.&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris also complained to his mother, who apparently became as angry or more so. At one point, early in November, Chris's parents visited the store and interrogated Mimms as to the origin of the photo. After Mimms admitted that he had snapped the picture (but feigned ignorance as to how it found its way onto the internet), they threatened to take legal action, but never actually did so.&amp;lt;ref name=mimms2/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris's &amp;quot;investigations&amp;quot; continued off and on for months after he originally found the picture. In an e-mail to Megan (sent in [[March 2008]] and oddly situated in between desperate apologies for the porn he drew of her), he recounts an indirect confrontation with Lucas at The GAMe PLACe on 8 March.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|So it brought up to mind my first word being &amp;quot;Monkey&amp;quot;, so I told Mimms that. And with a turn around towards the accompanying Lucas, I said in his direction, &amp;quot;Well, that's something new you didn't know about &amp;quot;be-4&amp;quot; about this &amp;quot;Chan&amp;quot;. I noticed a look on his face like, &amp;quot;Wow, I can totally wail on that tidbit of information.&amp;quot; He said nothing.|Chris's idea of subtlety, from the [[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris_emails_her_some_detective_work.2C_Megan_likely_doesn.27t_give_a_shit|Megan e-mails]].}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, Lucas gave his own interesting take on the story.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|The funniest part about that is that I have no recollection of him saying that to me whatsoever. I had no idea I was even a suspect until I saw that email.|Lucas, [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Trolling_Chris_at_the_Game_Place|Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Chris gets the boot==&lt;br /&gt;
Chris's behavior offended the store's management in a number of ways. Aside from punting his gym-leader duties, scaring the small children he played card games with, picking fights with other players, and generally being a racist and homophobic creep, he would truck his video game consoles into The GAMe PLACe and take over the shop's flat-screen TV for considerable amounts of time, loudly sang along to [[Britney Spears]] during games, pitched fits inspired by his hatred of the [[Hex Bawx]] in public, and so on.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mimms and Lucas Q&amp;amp;A]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The trigger for his permanent ban in [[August 2008]] was a shouting match with a young black kid. That particular incident was merely the straw that broke the camel's back, though — &amp;quot;Mike was looking for any reason to ban him at this point,&amp;quot; says Mimms.&amp;lt;ref name=mimms1/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Predictably, Chris did his best to resist getting kicked out of the store. He brought his parents in to argue his case with Michael Snyder, to which Michael responded by calling the [[police]]. Despite a fierce response from [[Barbara Chandler]], Chris and his family failed to move either Michael or the cops, and every indication is that Chris will never be allowed back into the store.&amp;lt;ref name=mimms1/&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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In the [[Jackie e-mails]], Chris offers his own chronology and version of events. There, he claims that he was thrown out of the store much earlier than Mimms indicates, in June 2008. The so-called &amp;quot;Wii Incident&amp;quot;, according to Chris, was when Michael Snyder forced Chris to stop bogarting the TV for his Wii. Doing this apparently caused a number of children to miss out on obtaining a few trade-only evolution Pokemon. Chris got angry and wrote a letter, sign, or simply scrawled a note on the side of a card box stating &amp;quot;Michael Snyder Loves the &amp;quot;Fiddlesticks&amp;quot; out of Mary Lee Walsh&amp;quot;. This, Chris claimed, was Michael's last straw and he booted him then. &lt;br /&gt;
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According to the CWCipedia article for Megan Schroeder, Chris claims that Megan was there the day he was banned and claimed that she just stood there in shock, refusing to speak up for him. In reality, of course, she was simply disgusted by his behavior like any rational person would have been and relieved that his being kicked out of the store would be the last time Chris would ever be in her sight&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Megan_Schroeder&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Also, she refused to defend Chris not because of shock, but because of his sexual harassment, [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|destruction of her dignity]], anger issues and &lt;br /&gt;
overall immaturity, ultimately cementing the fact that nobody wants Chris to ever return to the store.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unbanning attempts==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode200Comment.PNG|thumb|Chris recounts flipping Michael Snyder the bird.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris has repeatedly attempted to overcome his ban and gain readmission to the store. As mentioned in [[Chris_E-mails_2008#July|a July 2008 e-mail]], Chris sent a letter to Michael Snyder shortly after his initial one-month ban. In [[March 2009]] he attempted to apologize in the best way he knew how: [[Apology to Game &amp;amp; Hobby Place|posting a video to YouTube on the off-chance the individual addressed would see it]]. This was [[Chris and remorse|not the most sincere apology in the world]], since Chris made it clear in a [[I_Am_The_TRUE,_Original_CCWC|later video]] that he doesn't really understand why he was thrown out in the first place. A month later, in [[April 2009]], Chris attempted to sneak into the store, but when a cashier recognized him and caught him, Chris ran.&lt;br /&gt;
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Almost two years after his initial ban from The GAMe PLACe Chris would try again to get the ban lifted. In the Jackie emails Chris reveals that he attempted to go to The GAMe PLACe after church on 11 [[April 2010]]. When one of the cashiers saw Chris and recognized him, he threatened to call the cops. Chris got angry and bolted. The next day Chris visited the store again to talk to Michael Snyder in an attempt to have the ban removed. However, the visit did not turn out in Chris's favor, as [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|the audio from the incident]] shows. Michael refused to revoke the ban (later noting on YouTube, that Chris was actually reading the apology from a pre-written script&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&amp;amp;v=u_p6bShW97Y YouTube comment by Mike]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) and Chris took this about as well as could be expected; he flipped Michael off,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWq4pB_Vikw YouTube comment by Chris]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; yelled &amp;quot;JEW!&amp;quot; at him, and left the store in a huff. [[Chris and the law|The police were called]] about the incident, according to Mimms, but Chris was already long gone by the time they arrived; whether the police's involvement will continue remains to be seen.&lt;br /&gt;
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Later that day, Chris uploaded the audio of the incident to [[YouTube]], accompanied by a description soliciting harassment and &amp;quot;trolling&amp;quot; of Michael and his fellow employees. However, it was removed from the site in a matter of hours due to a &amp;quot;Terms of Use Violation&amp;quot;. Considering [[Chris and race|Chris's anti-Semitic remark]] directed at Michael, his invitation for others to harass him, and the possibly illegal nature of the recording, it's easy to see why it was pulled.&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris has never fully understood why he was kicked out of the store. According to Mimms, Chris didn't see what was wrong with his behavior at the time,&amp;lt;ref name=ban/&amp;gt; and he evidently hasn't reflected on the subject much in the intervening years. During the April 2010 visit to the store, the only possible grounds for his ban he could remember was the aforementioned &amp;quot;Wii incident.&amp;quot; Later, when he posted an ad on CWCipedia complaining about Snyder's refusal to lift the ban, Chris appeared to believe that the store manager refused to let him in because he hated him personally and [[Kick the Autistic|people with autism in general]].&lt;br /&gt;
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With Chris's continued failure to overturn the ban, it is clear that his chances of winning entry to The GAMe PLACe are almost as remote as the chances of his [[duck]] entering [[China]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Charlottesville Incident==&lt;br /&gt;
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On 4 [[June 2010]], Chris visited The GAMe PLACe. [[6 June 2010|He claimed]] that he wanted to take a photograph of Snyder to use as a dartboard, but when Snyder saw him with his camera outside, he chased Chris. Chris claimed that he tried to drive away but was accosted by Snyder, his daughter and the police. Snyder's version was more succinct:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Christian is in my parking lot right now being grilled by [[jerkop|the police]]. He took pictures of my daughter and tried to run me over with his [[car]]. they witness this, and I bet they still do nothing about it.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The police listened to Chris rant about the trolls for a while and eventually sent him home with a warning.&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.thegameplace.com/ Official website]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Since I've been gone ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I was in the hospital for a few days and apparently, shit came up. Looks like shit was settled though...or was it? Your thoughts, people. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:20, 28 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Define &amp;quot;shit&amp;quot; Champ. Shit as in Chris's madness on flipnote, shit as in the Asperpedia hack, or shit as in Alex being a retard? In any case, nothing was settled. At all. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:50, 28 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Mostly agree; Chris has been typical Chris on Flipnote and Asperpedia is still being fucking weird, but 16BitAlex is gone, and BabyNeko left as well in a flurry of drama, so that specific shit has settled for the moment. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 21:59, 28 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Well, BabyNeko is gone. But Alex certainly is not. He said he was going, but like certain other manchildren before him, he is continueing to frequent that which he said he would leave forever, posting more bullshit about apples and his racist views on asian women or some shit like that. I have no clue what he's really saying. He used to make sense, and then his language just devolved into retarded babbling. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 22:31, 28 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**I removed my &amp;quot;retarded babbling&amp;quot;. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 00:07, 29 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
***Your &amp;quot;DELETE FUCKING EVERYTHING&amp;quot; tactic just makes you look worse, you know.--[[User:Star Platinum|Star Platinum]] 01:59, 30 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Typical garden-variety madness, nothing serious. I wish you a speedy recovery. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:53, 29 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Faggots did drama, Chris kept on being Chris.  Hope whatever hospitalized you wasn't too serious and that you get well soon.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 18:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
beat said it best. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 02:04, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Long time, no see==&lt;br /&gt;
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I was reading an issue of Rolling Stone yesterday, and I found out that California rejected funding for an IRL homosexuality &amp;quot;cure&amp;quot;. Wouldn't it be fun if we told Chris about this, just for his reaction? Guys? --[[User:SniperFire16|SniperFire16]] 15:42, 29 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Possibly. Actually, the way things are going now, he could start building an actual political platform that would include anti-badmouthing, homo vaccines, and dating education. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:37, 29 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== 16bitfaggot B&amp;amp; BryanBash ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I am a humble user, barely making edits and staying out of this petty drama. But this is far, far more of a crime than I can let go by unpunished. Ban this faggot.--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 02:04, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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What the fuck happened? I'm a bit out of the loop. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:23, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*16bitAlex is being lame.  Unfortunately, it's the poisonous kind of lame that compels others to act lame in a display of how much they hate him.  At least I think that's what's going on.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:27, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**That's about right. I forget where it started, but you can see a lot of it on Delabonte's page. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 02:28, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
***My personal justification is that I needed a reason to act like a fag to somebody, and to put it bluntly, he's the perfect excuse. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 02:31, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
****What did your girlfriend break up with you, and now you're hiding your secret pain by lashing out on the internet?  I realize he's being a moron and I'm honestly shocked he hasn't been banned yet, but you guys have managed to fill the entire recent changes page with your little bitch fight against him on multiple occasions.  That shit is just sad.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:51, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*****Haven't had a girlfriend in months. Sorry about the recent changes thing, I guess it didn't occur to me that that was the case. I came here back in January primarily as a troll, and I hadn't done any trolling here yet. Call me immature, but it was doing what I came here to do, and it was satisfying. Seems like it's just about blown over now though, so I'll resume normal editing duties shortly. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 02:57, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
******Sorry about clogging the first page of recent changes on your website dedicated to documenting everything a 28 year old manbaby has ever done. Seriously, fucking relax. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 03:09, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*******I actually did want to stay out of the drama. I just posted a single comment on Delabonte's page telling Alex to abandon his account and just set up a new online identity. I just wanted to end this shit. Unfortunatly, he instead went on to cause more drama, and it pissed me off to the point I became an active participant. Well, i've learned my lesson now; Never try to white knight for anybody. If they are being trolled then they probably deserve it. I'm sorry for being a faggot everyone. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 10:36, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Times Square Billboard Images ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Where on the cwcki can I view them?&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:BigDipper|BigDipper]] 19:20 30 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*They're here - http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/20_December_2009 [[User:Irenicus|Irenicus]] 11:13, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ok... ==&lt;br /&gt;
You know what I hate more than anything else in the world? Gary Oak. Gary motherfucking Oak and the 500 motherfucking server error. Now, I know that the people in charge probably won't listen to this suggestion. I know it'd cause a lot of trouble to actually do it. I know that there is most likely some reason why we haven't already done it. But i'm not 100% certain, so i'm gonna throw this suggestion out there in the vain hope that someone sees it and either does it or at least explains why we can't;&lt;br /&gt;
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Why don't we move CWCki to the Hsienko servers that Asperpedia is hosted on?&lt;br /&gt;
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Because I NEVER have any of this shit when doing stuff there. Not once. Ever. At all.&lt;br /&gt;
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Over there, internal server errors do not exist.&lt;br /&gt;
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Just throwing it out there. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 22:40, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Having just received the 500 error (while logging in, no less), I like this idea.-[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 23:20, 1 July 2010 (UTC)==&lt;br /&gt;
*And now the errors are getting worse. Are they trying to tell us something?-[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 00:46, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**I think today the website is just more stressed than usual. It's what motivated me to post. I was getting so fucking many on recent changes all the time. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:51, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*The 500 errors are becoming infuriatingly common, but I'm thinking there has to be a fix that doesn't involve moving the whole site.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 01:59, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Contact Info ==&lt;br /&gt;
I've got an idea that will probably elicit no reaction whatever from Chris but has to be worth a try.  But he's always abandoning accounts and changing his email.  Does anyone have his most up-to-date email address?  Does anyone know if he still even checks it anymore?  I know he said he was giving up internet, but he's still on Flipnote, so you never know.  Thanks a million and Happy Canada Day! --[[User:Manwithoutabody|manwithoutabody]] 19:34 1 July 2010 CEST&lt;br /&gt;
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: chrischansonichu@aol.com is and always has been his email account. These days he barely checks it and doesn't reply to anything, so best of luck; I've been bombarding it on and off from various email accounts ever since Sydney got through, but not even a single bite. Emailing Chris at this point is like pissing into an ocean of piss. p.s if your idea is 'pretend to be Megan, pretend to be a girl interested in him, say you dug up patti,pretend you are someone impossible (such as Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)), then I can safely say it won't work. Good luck though. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 01:03, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==I MAD==&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, so the 'fan videos' is a cool and entertaining feature that can spice up a boring video page. Like all good ideas, however, something fucktarded has to come along. In this case, I'm talking about the utterly moronic practice of inserting videos that are either unrelated to the topic at hand, not actual Chris videos, or both. I'm not going to point any fingers namely because I've been gone forever and I'm not going to search through histories. Does a video with 'hurr durr i edited clips to make chris say he's gay' belong in the middle of the [[homos]] article? Does [[Sweetheart]] need some totally fucking irrelevant mashup at the top of the page? &lt;br /&gt;
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At best, this is a misguided attempt at transplanting in humor. At worst, it's namefaggotry. I'm going to be weeding out this crap but it would be nice if certain people actively avoided this level of dumbfuckery. Put fan videos in a segment labeled fan videos, and maybe explain how the fuck it's relevant to the article.&lt;br /&gt;
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/rage rage rage rage --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 02:04, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Aren't we a little overzealous? Granted, some videos are useless, but '''we have a fan video template.''' Just get rid of the useless ones and fix the ones that stay. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 02:27, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*Essentially, that's what I want, for people to use the template and make sure the video is appropriate. You just said it without all my impotent NERD RAAAAAAAGE. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 02:31, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*I've seen this shit around too, didn't know it was an issue. I'll keep an eye out in case someone adds that sort of thing in from now on. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 04:40, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I see what you're getting at. I think there are quite a few pages where there's far too many fan videos. A secondary goal of the CWCki which hasn't been quite elaborated on formally is that it should serve to preserve trolling culture and our collective trolling heritage that surrounds Chris. Personally, I think a fan video should only be included in an article if 1) it is notable in itself (see Vivian G's &amp;quot;DYKES DYKES CHINA,&amp;quot; for instance) or 2) it illustrates a point clearly (can't think of a good example at the moment). In any case, it should be done sparingly. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:20, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Why I've banned 16BitAlex ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When I was 4 or so, I had an NES when it was still pretty new and my babysitter loved playing it. One time, my mom took away the NES from me because my babysitter was so enamored with the NES, she would forget to, you know, watch me. It's something like that.&lt;br /&gt;
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I really didn't follow shit he did closely because Chris is enough drama to follow. 16BitAlex seemed to be causing drama that was counter productive to the CWCki's goal of documenting the life and times of Christian Weston Chandler. &lt;br /&gt;
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It looks like he himself tried to ban himself and so I took it upon myself to do the job right for him. Alex, if you're reading this, you are free to appeal this ban. Likewise, he is free to create a new account and start life anew on the CWCki, provided he will not delve too much into his personal life and stay focused on just editing the CWCki. &lt;br /&gt;
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I am really sick of this drama, not so much from CWCki editors but people like Clyde, and I'm afraid the only feasible solution I have was to remove Alex and in a way that was also to protect him because God damn, he is such a damn ass pie. &lt;br /&gt;
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Now let's get back to work, people. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:06, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I officially declare the first Church of Champthom open. Praise the Lord, for we have been saved! --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:12, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I'm glad you took care of this. Really, I'm surprised why none of the other admins stepped in. I guess they just wanted to see the drama unfold. Hopefully this will ''finally'' die down. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 15:18, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Champ, you are hot. I want you. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:33, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Me too! --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:42, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*This is a good thing.  The best thing, even.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 15:48, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I want to suck your big dick Champthom and have you come all over my face. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 05:13, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Perhaps it's that I haven't slept since Thursday afternoon, but the NES analogy is going way over my head. Still, I'm glad to see it over, even if I was a contributor. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 05:38, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The babysitter (CWCki editors) was playing the NES (messing with Alex) instead of doing her job and watching baby Champ. (obsessively chronicling the day to day life of an autistic manchild)--[[User:Star Platinum|Star Platinum]] 16:37, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Thank GodBearJesus that crap is over.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 06:09, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*To be honest I do think this 16BitAlex drama was creating confusion and chaos in the wiki. As much as I'd like to have trolled him, we do have to find a better place to do it. It was starting to get like an angry shouting match in broad daylight in the middle of a mall D: -- [[User:Da Nuke|Da_Nuke the Nucular Raeg Bomb]] 04:32, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Very apt. In any case, the point is that Alex himself didn't do anything wrong, per say, only that he was acting in a way that was disruptive as feeding trolls (which, as this wiki serves as a beautiful illustration, is something you just don't do) and I felt it was best for him and this wiki for him to be banned. Anyways, just wanted to clarify that it has nothing to do with me hating Alex or siding with people trolling him, just wanted to get this shit taken care of.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:44, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*Whatever your motives, we still love you just as much for actually doing it. The dude really needed to go. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Chris may be eligible for fraud charges ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Greetings all. A friend of mine who used to work as paralegal in social security pointed out that Chris may be eligible for fraud charges. I don't know the exact rules myself, but it seems if you're taking the social security fund and, you are not supposed to have 'substantial assets' (that is, in excess of $2000, sans car and house). Seeing Chris' PS3 and list of purchases, he is very likely to have gone through that limit. Unless he could provide evidence that he is disabled for work, he may face up to 10 years in jail for the fraud charge. &lt;br /&gt;
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The SSA office in charge of Virginia should be 1470 Pantops Mountain Place, Charlottesville - (434) 295-1144 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              (434) 295-1144      end_of_the_skype_highlighting (reopens on 6th of July I heard). I can't report this issue due to me not being a US citizen, so I'm just pointing a possibility here.&lt;br /&gt;
*For the love of GodJesus, how hard is it to sign your posts?--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 04:23, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*We've been over this.  He has autism, and apparently that's good enough for the state of Virginia.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:28, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*Also, he really is too stupid to work--he couldn't even take out the garbage at Wendy's without fucking it up.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:46, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Ah, I'm sorry about that, this is my first time using this function of a wiki page--[[User:Xanandar|Xanandar]] 04:53, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Short answer:''' either you didn't hear your friend correctly, or he's a moron. Chris will never be pulled in on fraud charges.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Long answer:''' Assets that would be countable include excess real property, the fair market value of vehicles other than your primary vehicle, balances in savings accounts, excess burial plots, and revocable trusts. Legally, Chris owns very little, his parents owning all the real property (the house and land) and the accounts. Generally, items like TVs and PS3s aren't counted in the count of substantial assets, and oh god the legal shitstorm from revoking SSDI benefits because of DLC would be terrifying. Finally, the defense would have a field day with excuses on why he couldn't have understood the restriction. You might be thinking of &amp;quot;substantial gainful activity&amp;quot; (&amp;quot;SGA&amp;quot;), but that would be work which Chris.....doesn't.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and '''Supplemental Security Income =/= Social Security Disability Insurance'''. I'm fairly certain Chris receives a check from the latter, so it's more application based than needs based.&lt;br /&gt;
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-[[User:Jump|attorney at lol]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Sadly, I think the only thing Chris risks is a weekly follow-up with a social worker. I don't think I will see a judge punishing an autistic manchild on his first fraud offence. I am ready to bet an old 5$ that he will receive no punitive damages at all. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 06:15, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Attention all jerkops ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Any user who interferes with [[User:JenkinsJinkies|JenkinsJinkies]] is to be banned from the CWCki. This user has provided original information about Chris and Clyde has confirmed this to be a confirmed CWCSighting.&lt;br /&gt;
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That young, 14 year old boy and his valorous usage of his Nintendo DS to attempt to capture Chris warrants special attention and no one is to interfere with him.&lt;br /&gt;
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Questions may be directed to me on a one-on-one basis (contact info available on my user page).--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:26, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== changes i'd like to see ==&lt;br /&gt;
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so, i'm thinking about remaking the community portal as an actual portal. that is, a place with links to discussion areas for different topics. one of these would be about speculation, which leads me onto my next change: no more speculation in articles, unless it is ''extremely'' related. some articles have way too fucking much armchair psychology, which really has no place in the main namespace. this is an encyclopaedia of facts, not a gigantic talk page, so please confine your guesswork to either article discussion pages(if it is important to improving the article, i.e. decoding/translating chris's bullshit) or the speculation place(once it's made). please discuss how the community portal should be revamped, such as what discussion pages to create. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 09:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== MIA Asperpedian ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wasn't sure where else to put this, but does anyone know where I can find whoever went by the name &amp;quot;Sans&amp;quot; on Asperpedia? I need to discuss something with him. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 04:34, 6 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Is it possible to have this screen name deleted? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but I'd like my screen name deleted if that is possible. [[User:JamieTyler|JamieTyler]] 23:37, 6 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Favorite Troll Userboxes? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Just a suggestion, we have Userboxes for the favorite Chandler cats, but none for one's favorite troll? I just thought it would be a good idea to put out like five for the biggest-names in CWC Trolling (Like Clyde, Jack Thaddeus, Vivitheg, Bluespike...Jimmy Hill?) [[User:Woohah Master|Woohah Master]] 20:57, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I support this. I yearn for some way to show my infinite love of Liquid Chris. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 23:15, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Ah, forgot about Liquid, but yeah, him too [[User:Woohah Master|Woohah Master]] 23:32, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I feel Liquid would reign supreme. Still, it seems like we're missing a few; does Alec count? [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 03:47, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think Alec would count. How about Robert Simmons V or The Man in the Pickle Suit? --[[User:Paperback|Paperback]] 10:00, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Robert I don't think really warrants his own box. He didn't do a whole lot. I'd like to get a box for Evan if we're doing one for Alec. So, the list so far is Clyde, Jack Thaddeus, Vivitheg, Bluespike, Liquid Chris, Alec, Man In The Pickle Suit, and Evan. Who would be up for making them? [[User:Woohah Master|Woohah Master]] 14:47, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== IBA fucking geneva ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is evading every five seconds and needs to be dealt with. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 03:36, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I have perma-banned the creep twice. Fells like a game of &amp;quot;Whack-A-Mole&amp;quot;. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:40, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Mighty fine work there, Griffintown.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:43, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*I am glad to be helpful. Besides, what is the fun in a Wiki without the odd griefer to whack around? :) [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:27, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'd hate to be a fag and walk into this, but I was under the impression that we had his dox, so couldn't we just toss them out? If not there's software that lets us track IP and software even when the user is hiding behind Tor so we could just get his dox if we don't have it that way.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 04:03, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Oh god damn. The [[User:Pfaggot|name]] of his new account is harassment itself. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 06:28, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*BTW his Juanbrujo account isn't banned yet. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 06:33, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah. Someone needs to deal with this guy. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 14:54, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*IBAgeneva (banned)&lt;br /&gt;
*JerryMathers (banned)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Herpdederp (banned)&lt;br /&gt;
*Derpaherp (banned)&lt;br /&gt;
*Greatjollynegro (banned)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Pewbmonster&lt;br /&gt;
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Whoever this guy is, it sounds like he's either butthurt or a newfag since he only makes the same edits over and over. He fails as a vandal. Seriously. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 17:04, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You just don't know how fun this is, buddy. Also, Office Space was ok. Wasn't that great of a movie. :/  --[[User:Uhuru|Uhuru]] 17:15, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::It's fine we can just drop your dox and we'll see if you still think it's fun then. You know Tor doesn't hide your actual IP when you use these sites, at least not when the right software's around.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 17:22, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That smacks of some sort of desperation. First of all, I get the hint you are talking out your ass. Second, u mad? --[[User:Mrjoo|Mrjoo]] 19:04, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Actually no, whenever you use Scripts/Flash Tor won't hide your IP, and there are several commercial programs that can track based on that. Try to figure out how your parachute works before you use it &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;Here's a hint: the boxes that enable flash and Java, leave them off. Of course you can't edit if they are off...&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; -[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:48, 8 July 2010 (UTC) &lt;br /&gt;
:You threaten me with dox and you only follow up with an explanation of how you could possibly find my IP address. You kind of fail at being an internet tough guy.--[[User:Pewbmonster|Pewbmonster]] 20:53, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::people are not acting like an inetrnet though guy, because your retarded fagottry is just annoying instead of infuriating. and dammit choose less retarded sockpuppets, because seriously &amp;quot;pewbmonster&amp;quot;? what are you? 13?[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 20:57, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Cool story bro. I can't account for how old I am but I know [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LU0Q6ONMQY Pfargtl9000] is a little kid. --[[User:Niggomalema|Niggomalema]] 21:17, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I never threatened, I just said that it's going to happen: it's not just &amp;quot;possibly&amp;quot; find, you've left a big gap and anyone reaasonably skilled and with the software can exploit that. You aren't invisible and there's no reason to why the management wouldn't crank up the rapemachine if you keep trying to act like a big bad troll. You obviously don't know how to vandalize a site, try to know what you're doing before getting smug.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 21:22, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.cogsdev.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pfargtl9000&amp;amp;oldid=103044 Will there ever be an end to this?] [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 20:41, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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The Community Portal is designed to be a public forum to discuss CWCki related affairs for site wide concerns, policy, that sort of thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Since I've been gone ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I was in the hospital for a few days and apparently, shit came up. Looks like shit was settled though...or was it? Your thoughts, people. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:20, 28 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Define &amp;quot;shit&amp;quot; Champ. Shit as in Chris's madness on flipnote, shit as in the Asperpedia hack, or shit as in Alex being a retard? In any case, nothing was settled. At all. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:50, 28 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Mostly agree; Chris has been typical Chris on Flipnote and Asperpedia is still being fucking weird, but 16BitAlex is gone, and BabyNeko left as well in a flurry of drama, so that specific shit has settled for the moment. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 21:59, 28 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Well, BabyNeko is gone. But Alex certainly is not. He said he was going, but like certain other manchildren before him, he is continueing to frequent that which he said he would leave forever, posting more bullshit about apples and his racist views on asian women or some shit like that. I have no clue what he's really saying. He used to make sense, and then his language just devolved into retarded babbling. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 22:31, 28 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**I removed my &amp;quot;retarded babbling&amp;quot;. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 00:07, 29 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
***Your &amp;quot;DELETE FUCKING EVERYTHING&amp;quot; tactic just makes you look worse, you know.--[[User:Star Platinum|Star Platinum]] 01:59, 30 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Typical garden-variety madness, nothing serious. I wish you a speedy recovery. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:53, 29 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Faggots did drama, Chris kept on being Chris.  Hope whatever hospitalized you wasn't too serious and that you get well soon.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 18:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
beat said it best. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 02:04, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Long time, no see==&lt;br /&gt;
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I was reading an issue of Rolling Stone yesterday, and I found out that California rejected funding for an IRL homosexuality &amp;quot;cure&amp;quot;. Wouldn't it be fun if we told Chris about this, just for his reaction? Guys? --[[User:SniperFire16|SniperFire16]] 15:42, 29 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Possibly. Actually, the way things are going now, he could start building an actual political platform that would include anti-badmouthing, homo vaccines, and dating education. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:37, 29 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== 16bitfaggot B&amp;amp; BryanBash ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I am a humble user, barely making edits and staying out of this petty drama. But this is far, far more of a crime than I can let go by unpunished. Ban this faggot.--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 02:04, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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What the fuck happened? I'm a bit out of the loop. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:23, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*16bitAlex is being lame.  Unfortunately, it's the poisonous kind of lame that compels others to act lame in a display of how much they hate him.  At least I think that's what's going on.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:27, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**That's about right. I forget where it started, but you can see a lot of it on Delabonte's page. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 02:28, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
***My personal justification is that I needed a reason to act like a fag to somebody, and to put it bluntly, he's the perfect excuse. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 02:31, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
****What did your girlfriend break up with you, and now you're hiding your secret pain by lashing out on the internet?  I realize he's being a moron and I'm honestly shocked he hasn't been banned yet, but you guys have managed to fill the entire recent changes page with your little bitch fight against him on multiple occasions.  That shit is just sad.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:51, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*****Haven't had a girlfriend in months. Sorry about the recent changes thing, I guess it didn't occur to me that that was the case. I came here back in January primarily as a troll, and I hadn't done any trolling here yet. Call me immature, but it was doing what I came here to do, and it was satisfying. Seems like it's just about blown over now though, so I'll resume normal editing duties shortly. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 02:57, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
******Sorry about clogging the first page of recent changes on your website dedicated to documenting everything a 28 year old manbaby has ever done. Seriously, fucking relax. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 03:09, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*******I actually did want to stay out of the drama. I just posted a single comment on Delabonte's page telling Alex to abandon his account and just set up a new online identity. I just wanted to end this shit. Unfortunatly, he instead went on to cause more drama, and it pissed me off to the point I became an active participant. Well, i've learned my lesson now; Never try to white knight for anybody. If they are being trolled then they probably deserve it. I'm sorry for being a faggot everyone. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 10:36, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Times Square Billboard Images ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Where on the cwcki can I view them?&lt;br /&gt;
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*They're here - http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/20_December_2009 [[User:Irenicus|Irenicus]] 11:13, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ok... ==&lt;br /&gt;
You know what I hate more than anything else in the world? Gary Oak. Gary motherfucking Oak and the 500 motherfucking server error. Now, I know that the people in charge probably won't listen to this suggestion. I know it'd cause a lot of trouble to actually do it. I know that there is most likely some reason why we haven't already done it. But i'm not 100% certain, so i'm gonna throw this suggestion out there in the vain hope that someone sees it and either does it or at least explains why we can't;&lt;br /&gt;
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Why don't we move CWCki to the Hsienko servers that Asperpedia is hosted on?&lt;br /&gt;
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Because I NEVER have any of this shit when doing stuff there. Not once. Ever. At all.&lt;br /&gt;
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Over there, internal server errors do not exist.&lt;br /&gt;
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Just throwing it out there. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 22:40, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Having just received the 500 error (while logging in, no less), I like this idea.-[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 23:20, 1 July 2010 (UTC)==&lt;br /&gt;
*And now the errors are getting worse. Are they trying to tell us something?-[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 00:46, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**I think today the website is just more stressed than usual. It's what motivated me to post. I was getting so fucking many on recent changes all the time. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:51, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*The 500 errors are becoming infuriatingly common, but I'm thinking there has to be a fix that doesn't involve moving the whole site.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 01:59, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Contact Info ==&lt;br /&gt;
I've got an idea that will probably elicit no reaction whatever from Chris but has to be worth a try.  But he's always abandoning accounts and changing his email.  Does anyone have his most up-to-date email address?  Does anyone know if he still even checks it anymore?  I know he said he was giving up internet, but he's still on Flipnote, so you never know.  Thanks a million and Happy Canada Day! --[[User:Manwithoutabody|manwithoutabody]] 19:34 1 July 2010 CEST&lt;br /&gt;
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: chrischansonichu@aol.com is and always has been his email account. These days he barely checks it and doesn't reply to anything, so best of luck; I've been bombarding it on and off from various email accounts ever since Sydney got through, but not even a single bite. Emailing Chris at this point is like pissing into an ocean of piss. p.s if your idea is 'pretend to be Megan, pretend to be a girl interested in him, say you dug up patti,pretend you are someone impossible (such as Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)), then I can safely say it won't work. Good luck though. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 01:03, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==I MAD==&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, so the 'fan videos' is a cool and entertaining feature that can spice up a boring video page. Like all good ideas, however, something fucktarded has to come along. In this case, I'm talking about the utterly moronic practice of inserting videos that are either unrelated to the topic at hand, not actual Chris videos, or both. I'm not going to point any fingers namely because I've been gone forever and I'm not going to search through histories. Does a video with 'hurr durr i edited clips to make chris say he's gay' belong in the middle of the [[homos]] article? Does [[Sweetheart]] need some totally fucking irrelevant mashup at the top of the page? &lt;br /&gt;
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At best, this is a misguided attempt at transplanting in humor. At worst, it's namefaggotry. I'm going to be weeding out this crap but it would be nice if certain people actively avoided this level of dumbfuckery. Put fan videos in a segment labeled fan videos, and maybe explain how the fuck it's relevant to the article.&lt;br /&gt;
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/rage rage rage rage --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 02:04, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Aren't we a little overzealous? Granted, some videos are useless, but '''we have a fan video template.''' Just get rid of the useless ones and fix the ones that stay. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 02:27, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*Essentially, that's what I want, for people to use the template and make sure the video is appropriate. You just said it without all my impotent NERD RAAAAAAAGE. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 02:31, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*I've seen this shit around too, didn't know it was an issue. I'll keep an eye out in case someone adds that sort of thing in from now on. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 04:40, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I see what you're getting at. I think there are quite a few pages where there's far too many fan videos. A secondary goal of the CWCki which hasn't been quite elaborated on formally is that it should serve to preserve trolling culture and our collective trolling heritage that surrounds Chris. Personally, I think a fan video should only be included in an article if 1) it is notable in itself (see Vivian G's &amp;quot;DYKES DYKES CHINA,&amp;quot; for instance) or 2) it illustrates a point clearly (can't think of a good example at the moment). In any case, it should be done sparingly. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:20, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Why I've banned 16BitAlex ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When I was 4 or so, I had an NES when it was still pretty new and my babysitter loved playing it. One time, my mom took away the NES from me because my babysitter was so enamored with the NES, she would forget to, you know, watch me. It's something like that.&lt;br /&gt;
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I really didn't follow shit he did closely because Chris is enough drama to follow. 16BitAlex seemed to be causing drama that was counter productive to the CWCki's goal of documenting the life and times of Christian Weston Chandler. &lt;br /&gt;
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It looks like he himself tried to ban himself and so I took it upon myself to do the job right for him. Alex, if you're reading this, you are free to appeal this ban. Likewise, he is free to create a new account and start life anew on the CWCki, provided he will not delve too much into his personal life and stay focused on just editing the CWCki. &lt;br /&gt;
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I am really sick of this drama, not so much from CWCki editors but people like Clyde, and I'm afraid the only feasible solution I have was to remove Alex and in a way that was also to protect him because God damn, he is such a damn ass pie. &lt;br /&gt;
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Now let's get back to work, people. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:06, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I officially declare the first Church of Champthom open. Praise the Lord, for we have been saved! --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:12, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I'm glad you took care of this. Really, I'm surprised why none of the other admins stepped in. I guess they just wanted to see the drama unfold. Hopefully this will ''finally'' die down. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 15:18, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Champ, you are hot. I want you. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:33, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Me too! --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:42, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*This is a good thing.  The best thing, even.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 15:48, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I want to suck your big dick Champthom and have you come all over my face. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 05:13, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Perhaps it's that I haven't slept since Thursday afternoon, but the NES analogy is going way over my head. Still, I'm glad to see it over, even if I was a contributor. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 05:38, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The babysitter (CWCki editors) was playing the NES (messing with Alex) instead of doing her job and watching baby Champ. (obsessively chronicling the day to day life of an autistic manchild)--[[User:Star Platinum|Star Platinum]] 16:37, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Thank GodBearJesus that crap is over.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 06:09, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*To be honest I do think this 16BitAlex drama was creating confusion and chaos in the wiki. As much as I'd like to have trolled him, we do have to find a better place to do it. It was starting to get like an angry shouting match in broad daylight in the middle of a mall D: -- [[User:Da Nuke|Da_Nuke the Nucular Raeg Bomb]] 04:32, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Very apt. In any case, the point is that Alex himself didn't do anything wrong, per say, only that he was acting in a way that was disruptive as feeding trolls (which, as this wiki serves as a beautiful illustration, is something you just don't do) and I felt it was best for him and this wiki for him to be banned. Anyways, just wanted to clarify that it has nothing to do with me hating Alex or siding with people trolling him, just wanted to get this shit taken care of.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:44, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*Whatever your motives, we still love you just as much for actually doing it. The dude really needed to go. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Chris may be eligible for fraud charges ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Greetings all. A friend of mine who used to work as paralegal in social security pointed out that Chris may be eligible for fraud charges. I don't know the exact rules myself, but it seems if you're taking the social security fund and, you are not supposed to have 'substantial assets' (that is, in excess of $2000, sans car and house). Seeing Chris' PS3 and list of purchases, he is very likely to have gone through that limit. Unless he could provide evidence that he is disabled for work, he may face up to 10 years in jail for the fraud charge. &lt;br /&gt;
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The SSA office in charge of Virginia should be 1470 Pantops Mountain Place, Charlottesville - (434) 295-1144 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              (434) 295-1144      end_of_the_skype_highlighting (reopens on 6th of July I heard). I can't report this issue due to me not being a US citizen, so I'm just pointing a possibility here.&lt;br /&gt;
*For the love of GodJesus, how hard is it to sign your posts?--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 04:23, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*We've been over this.  He has autism, and apparently that's good enough for the state of Virginia.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:28, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*Also, he really is too stupid to work--he couldn't even take out the garbage at Wendy's without fucking it up.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:46, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Ah, I'm sorry about that, this is my first time using this function of a wiki page--[[User:Xanandar|Xanandar]] 04:53, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Short answer:''' either you didn't hear your friend correctly, or he's a moron. Chris will never be pulled in on fraud charges.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Long answer:''' Assets that would be countable include excess real property, the fair market value of vehicles other than your primary vehicle, balances in savings accounts, excess burial plots, and revocable trusts. Legally, Chris owns very little, his parents owning all the real property (the house and land) and the accounts. Generally, items like TVs and PS3s aren't counted in the count of substantial assets, and oh god the legal shitstorm from revoking SSDI benefits because of DLC would be terrifying. Finally, the defense would have a field day with excuses on why he couldn't have understood the restriction. You might be thinking of &amp;quot;substantial gainful activity&amp;quot; (&amp;quot;SGA&amp;quot;), but that would be work which Chris.....doesn't.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sadly, I think the only thing Chris risks is a weekly follow-up with a social worker. I don't think I will see a judge punishing an autistic manchild on his first fraud offence. I am ready to bet an old 5$ that he will receive no punitive damages at all. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 06:15, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Attention all jerkops ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Any user who interferes with [[User:JenkinsJinkies|JenkinsJinkies]] is to be banned from the CWCki. This user has provided original information about Chris and Clyde has confirmed this to be a confirmed CWCSighting.&lt;br /&gt;
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That young, 14 year old boy and his valorous usage of his Nintendo DS to attempt to capture Chris warrants special attention and no one is to interfere with him.&lt;br /&gt;
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Questions may be directed to me on a one-on-one basis (contact info available on my user page).--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:26, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== changes i'd like to see ==&lt;br /&gt;
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so, i'm thinking about remaking the community portal as an actual portal. that is, a place with links to discussion areas for different topics. one of these would be about speculation, which leads me onto my next change: no more speculation in articles, unless it is ''extremely'' related. some articles have way too fucking much armchair psychology, which really has no place in the main namespace. this is an encyclopaedia of facts, not a gigantic talk page, so please confine your guesswork to either article discussion pages(if it is important to improving the article, i.e. decoding/translating chris's bullshit) or the speculation place(once it's made). please discuss how the community portal should be revamped, such as what discussion pages to create. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 09:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== MIA Asperpedian ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wasn't sure where else to put this, but does anyone know where I can find whoever went by the name &amp;quot;Sans&amp;quot; on Asperpedia? I need to discuss something with him. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 04:34, 6 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Is it possible to have this screen name deleted? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but I'd like my screen name deleted if that is possible. [[User:JamieTyler|JamieTyler]] 23:37, 6 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Favorite Troll Userboxes? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Just a suggestion, we have Userboxes for the favorite Chandler cats, but none for one's favorite troll? I just thought it would be a good idea to put out like five for the biggest-names in CWC Trolling (Like Clyde, Jack Thaddeus, Vivitheg, Bluespike...Jimmy Hill?) [[User:Woohah Master|Woohah Master]] 20:57, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I support this. I yearn for some way to show my infinite love of Liquid Chris. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 23:15, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Ah, forgot about Liquid, but yeah, him too [[User:Woohah Master|Woohah Master]] 23:32, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I feel Liquid would reign supreme. Still, it seems like we're missing a few; does Alec count? [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 03:47, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think Alec would count. How about Robert Simmons V or The Man in the Pickle Suit? --[[User:Paperback|Paperback]] 10:00, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Robert I don't think really warrants his own box. He didn't do a whole lot. I'd like to get a box for Evan if we're doing one for Alec. So, the list so far is Clyde, Jack Thaddeus, Vivitheg, Bluespike, Liquid Chris, Alec, Man In The Pickle Suit, and Evan. Who would be up for making them? [[User:Woohah Master|Woohah Master]] 14:47, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== IBA fucking geneva ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is evading every five seconds and needs to be dealt with. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 03:36, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I have perma-banned the creep twice. Fells like a game of &amp;quot;Whack-A-Mole&amp;quot;. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:40, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Mighty fine work there, Griffintown.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:43, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*I am glad to be helpful. Besides, what is the fun in a Wiki without the odd griefer to whack around? :) [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:27, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'd hate to be a fag and walk into this, but I was under the impression that we had his dox, so couldn't we just toss them out? If not there's software that lets us track IP and software even when the user is hiding behind Tor so we could just get his dox if we don't have it that way.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 04:03, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Oh god damn. The [[User:Pfaggot|name]] of his new account is harassment itself. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 06:28, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*BTW his Juanbrujo account isn't banned yet. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 06:33, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah. Someone needs to deal with this guy. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 14:54, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Greatjollynegro (banned)&lt;br /&gt;
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Whoever this guy is, it sounds like he's either butthurt or a newfag since he only makes the same edits over and over. He fails as a vandal. Seriously. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 17:04, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You just don't know how fun this is, buddy. Also, Office Space was ok. Wasn't that great of a movie. :/  --[[User:Uhuru|Uhuru]] 17:15, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::It's fine we can just drop your dox and we'll see if you still think it's fun then. You know Tor doesn't hide your actual IP when you use these sites, at least not when the right software's around.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 17:22, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That smacks of some sort of desperation. First of all, I get the hint you are talking out your ass. Second, u mad? --[[User:Mrjoo|Mrjoo]] 19:04, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Actually no, whenever you use Scripts/Flash Tor won't hide your IP, and there are several commercial programs that can track based on that. Try to figure out how your parachute works before you use it &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;Here's a hint: the boxes that enable flash and Java, leave them off. Of course you can't edit if they are off...&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; -[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:48, 8 July 2010 (UTC) &lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.cogsdev.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pfargtl9000&amp;amp;oldid=103044 Will there ever be an end to this?] [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 20:41, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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