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Friend zone

2010-09-29T03:56:06Z

Kishona: /* Megan Schroeder */

[[Chris]] has rarely been able to even form a casual friendship with a woman, and generally just harasses the ones who will approach him. Nevertheless, his single-minded focus on going all the way and getting laid has led him to view the concept of the '''friend zone''' with disgust. Friendship, in Chris's mind, is merely a tactic women use to avoid giving guys like him the [[china]] they deserve.

==The friend zone defined==
[[File:Into the friend zone.jpg|thumb|Even with this illustration, Chris will probably never understand this concept.]]

Nowadays the "friend zone" is a common topic in discussions of romantic relationships. From one perspective, the friend zone is where guys wind up when they spend too much time getting to know a woman without trying to make a move towards a more serious relationship. Eventually, the woman views them as "just friends" (or "[[Cole Smithey|like a brother]]," to use one variation on the theme) rather than a potential lover.

From another perspective, a woman might value her friendship with a man too much to take the risk of advancing to a more serious commitment, which could lead to an ugly breakup and the end of any sort of relationship with him.

It's possible for a woman to enjoy a man's company without wanting to go to bed with him (and for a man to likewise feel the same way about a woman). Most people are capable of accepting this fact, even if it's a bit difficult to deal with when one has been "friended" by the object of one's affection. Chris, of course, has other ideas.
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==Chris on the friend zone==
[[Image:cwcfz.png|thumb|right|Chris and where is he in the Friend Zone.]]
Like many other supposed "rules" related to sex and dating, the friend zone is in fact a pretty nebulous concept. Chris, unable to think about relationships except in the most [[Autism|rigid, inflexible terms]], characterizes the friend zone as a law, a hard and fast rule that he apparently believes has been forced upon him by some unspecified authority. (This is similar to his interpretation of the [[Third date|three-date rule]].)

In [[Mumble 4]], [[Clyde Cash]] had a brief discussion on the friend zone with Chris, brought on by Chris's assumption that [[Sarah Hammer]] was interested in him romantically simply because they were neighbors. Chris responded to Clyde's assessment of his friendzone status by talking about the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Just Friends|Just Friends]]'', which he also cited in a Mailbag question several months later.

In [[Mailbag 4]], a correspondent asked him what law he would change if he could change a single one. (His intention was probably to bait Chris into discussing the "dumb laws" preventing [[Zapina|teenage girls]] from taking off their clothes in public.) Chris responded with a tirade against the friend zone.

{{quote|I would remove the "Law" of the "Friend Zone", because I feel that it is just wrong to not even attempt to have anything beyond friendship, especially if the man and the woman are both comfortable with each other and are close.|Chris, failing to understand women as usual.}}

Later, he expanded his opinion somewhat in the [[Common_Questions#Answered_15_January_2010|Common Questions]] section of the Mailbag. In this case, a correspondent quite reasonably asked, "What happened to a woman's right to choose who she wants to be with?"

{{quote|Nothing has happened in Women's Rights; the "Friend Zone" is only the LOUSIEST EXCUSE EVER to give to someone the woman deeply cares about and trusts so she could get out of sex or a relationship. I do not take kindly to that Excuse at this time.|Chris, cursing any woman who tries to "get out of [the] sex" she clearly owes him.}}

Chris's characterization of "we're just friends" as an "excuse" is revealing, both in regards to his ideas about women and his view of himself. He cannot imagine a rational explanation for why a female friend would not want to have sex with him (except in the case of [[Anna]] - he's willing to accept that there's no point in hitting on a lesbian). Instead, he believes that women have invented excuses like this one because for some reason they fear a sexual relationship. If he is attracted to her and wants to sleep with her, he feels that she is obligated to return his interest and help bring his degenerate fantasies to life. In the worst case scenario, Chris would refuse to listen to a woman's "excuses" and [[Chris_and_sex#Chris_and_rape| rape]] her.

==[[Gal pal]]s and the friend zone==

===[[Megan Schroeder]]===

Chris's comments about the friend zone shed a bit more light on his relationship with Megan Schroeder (and its spectacular collapse). While Megan was happy to enjoy an ordinary, platonic friendship with Chris — which, most observers would agree, is far more than he could ever have reasonably hoped for — he clearly couldn't get his mind around the notion of a woman who didn't mind his company, but didn't want to have sex with him. From his perspective, she was "making excuses," since there's no way she could have been sincerely interested in nothing more than a good friendship. Hence his refusal to quit subjecting her to physical pressure, his assumption that only sexual inexperience prevented her from wanting to fuck him, and so on. Chris's frustration with being in the "friend zone" reached the point where - according to him - he had to draw [[ShecameforCWC.JPG]] in order to prevent himself doing something infinitely [[Rape|worse]].

===[[The Wallflower]]===

Even after the Megan debacle, Chris was still oblivious to the concept of friend zone when dealing with the Wallflower. Chris revealed in his video [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!]] that she had been consistently telling Chris that she "isn't ready for a boyfriend". He is not aware that this is a commonly used technique for rejecting people, and that he had been seen as nothing more than a friend - even before the Wallflower became aware of the CWCki. Since he had to be told multiple times that she wasn't ready for a boyfriend, this implies he went past the boundaries of good taste multiple times despite being told it was unappreciated. This surprised no one.

Oddly, on 31 [[January 2010]], long before the wallflower fiasco occurred, Chris [[Sonichu Forum#News Flash: Chris is still single IRL|posted in the Sonichu Forum]] that he had been friend zoned, and felt crestfallen about it. The most likely explanation for Chris's actions towards The Wallflower, was that he was trying to follow his own [[Mailbag 16#In which Chris reveals exactly how little he's learned|amazingly bad advice]], and treat the friend zone as though it were an obstacle to overcome. We all know how that [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|turned out]].

==See also==
* [[Chris and sex]]
* [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up]]

[[Category:Chris-chan]]

User talk:LucidFox

2010-09-26T06:14:20Z

Kishona:

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*Transgender, eh? MTF or FTM? [[User:Kishona|Kishona]] 23:10, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
**This is true. :] Awesome. I haven't met very to many lesbian MTFs but it's always nice to. :3 [[User:Kishona|Kishona]] 23:14, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

User talk:LucidFox

2010-09-26T06:10:42Z

Kishona:

User talk:LucidFox

2010-09-26T05:49:07Z

Kishona: Created page with "You don't have any *gasp* userboxes!! Lol, and I didn't know that. TV Tropes<3 ~~~~"

You don't have any *gasp* userboxes!! Lol, and I didn't know that. TV Tropes<3 [[User:Kishona|Kishona]] 22:49, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

User talk:Kishona

2010-09-26T05:16:37Z

Kishona:

Dooo the Hurp-a-Durp!! 8D

User:Kishona

2010-09-26T05:14:38Z

Kishona:

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User:Kishona

2010-09-26T05:10:14Z

Kishona:

User:Kishona

2010-09-26T05:09:36Z

Kishona:

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User talk:Kishona

2010-09-26T04:49:11Z

Kishona: HAY GUIZE!!

== HAY GUIZE!! ==

Do more things!

User:Kishona

2010-09-26T04:48:48Z

Kishona: Created page with "Dooo the Hurp-a-Durp!!"

Dooo the Hurp-a-Durp!!

File talk:JackSweetheart.jpg

2010-09-26T04:48:17Z

Kishona: /* Reverse Image Search */

Anyone else here looking at her and thinking "jailbait"? --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 18:40, 13 September 2010 (PDT)
*Yes,yes I do.[[User:Bealtespip122|Bealtespip122]] 18:47, 13 September 2010 (PDT)
* I was thinking "so far out Chris' league it's hilarious," but, now that you mention it... - [[User:Schismtracer|Schismtracer]] 22:06, 14 September 2010 (PDT)
* THIS IS JACKIE!? I know she said she had low standards, but come on! She could do SO MUCH better. - [[User:ninjaclown|ninjaclown]] 05:45, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
**...You really don't get how this works, do you? [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 13:21, 15 September 2010 (PDT)

== Reverse Image Search ==

Did a reverse image search on this pic, led to an amateur pornsite. A bunch of pics of this girl, some half dressed, some nude, nothing hardcore, along with this pic. Loool. [[User:Kishona|Kishona]] 21:47, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

File talk:JackSweetheart.jpg

2010-09-26T04:48:03Z

Kishona: /* Reverse Image Search */ new section

File talk:JackSweetheart.jpg

2010-09-26T04:47:49Z

Kishona: /* Reverse Image Search */ new section