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User:Lilacraven

2025-06-25T02:20:40Z

Lilacraven:

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February 2021

2023-08-04T18:40:05Z

Lilacraven: /* Highlights */

{{SonichuPossession}}

[[File:CWCCoinPose.jpg|thumb|Chris posing for [[Null]] in February 2021.]]

'''February''' was the second month of [[2021]]. Chris [[Spirit possession|stopped roleplaying as Sonichu]] after nearly an entire year.

Chris's sex drive ramped up. He had a sexual dream, chatted about being lonely and wanting a relationship, allegedly desired a hooker, and discussed masturbation.

Chris wanted to use a [[taser]] on his [[Gate Crystal]] and [[Celestial Key]] [[quartz crystals]] in an attempt to open an inter-dimensional portal and bring about the [[Merge]]; this resulted in fighting between the [[Watchmen]] white knight group and [[Praetor]] (who was to enable Chris by meeting up and letting him use one of their tasers). The Watchmen crafted and spread rumors on the taser matter, to which Chris claimed the taser was his own idea, leading to tensions between the Watchmen and Chris.

[[KwaiiSandbag]], an enabler pretending to be a psychic, contacted Chris and the two chatted in several calls.

==Highlights==
* '''2 February''' - Chris dreams of almost having sex with ''Sonic'' character Sally Acorn.<ref>[[The Place chats (February 2021)#Sally Acorn Dream]]</ref>
* '''2 February''' - Chris describes wanting to use piezoelectric crystals to open a portal and activate the [[Dimensional Merge]].<ref>[[The Place chats - Piezoelectric Crystals]]</ref>
* '''3 February''' - The initial run of [[Praetor]] Sonichu [[medallions]] are released on Praetor's [[Etsy#Medallions (1st run)|Etsy shop]].
* '''4 February''' - At [[Null]]'s request, Chris poses for a photo<ref>[[:File:CWCCoinPose.jpg]]</ref> to be used in a silver coin design for the [[Kiwi Farms]]'s merch run.
* '''4 February''' - [[The Vaughn Interlude]], a set of messages between the [[Watchmen]] and Chris, is released, giving context to [[Larry Vaughn]]'s manipulation of Chris.
* '''5 February''' - Chris plans to use a taser to stun his [[quartz crystals]] as an attempt to activate the [[Dimensional Merge]].<ref>[[Naught DMs#Chris wants to activate the Merge by playing with taser]]</ref>
* '''8 February''' - Several times throughout the day, multiple [[Watchmen]], a member of [[Praetor]], and Chris confront each other regarding the possibility of Chris experimenting with a taser to activate the Dimensional Merge.<ref>[[Thinking with Portals#Praetor and the Taser]]</ref><ref>[[The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations#8February 2021]]</ref><ref>[[Taser Discussion]]</ref>
* '''8 February''' - [[Watchmen]] member [[Naught]] posts an out-of-context clip from the [[Taser Discussion]] call to [[Kiwi Farms]];<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/feb-5-2021-chris-wants-to-play-with-taser-to-activate-the-merge.84502/post-8301396</ref> Watchman [[MKR]] tweets an out-of-context screenshot from the [[The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations#8 February 2021, part 2|Watchmen's discussion with Praetor]] in order to spread disinformation on Praetor's motives.<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1358939937463169024 (archive: https://archive.ph/PYMQh)</ref>
* '''9 February''' - Chris responds to [[KwaiiSandbag]], an enabler pretending to be a psychic.
* '''10 February''' - Chris talks with KwaiiSandbag on Discord in Psychic Chat #1.<ref>[[KwaiiSandbag calls#Call 1]]</ref>
* '''11 February''' - [[GiBi]] uploads a video which spreads the [[Watchmen]]'s spin on the [[taser]] situation. Chris comments on the video, claiming the taser was his idea and defending [[Praetor]].<ref>[[List of Chris's comments on YouTube#Chris Chan is Convinced to Taser Himself]]</ref>
* '''11 February''' - The [[Larry Vaughn DMs]] are leaked.
* '''13 February''' - Chris criticizes aggressive behavior in [[Watchmen]] Discord server [[The Place]].<ref>[[The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations#13 February 2021]]</ref>
* '''13 February''' - [[Thinking with Portals]], a set of messages between the [[Watchmen]], Chris, and [[Praetor]], is released. In it, the parties argued over the taser situation, and Chris described more of his delusional [[Meditation|daydreams]] on his magical "origin story" and [[Dimensional Merge]] lore.
* '''14 February''' - Chris talks with KwaiiSandbag on Discord in Psychic Chat #2.<ref>[[KwaiiSandbag calls#Call 2]]</ref>
* '''17 February''' - Chris discusses with the [[Watchmen]] his feelings of loneliness and desire for a relationship.<ref>[[The Place chats - Lonely Feelings]]</ref>
* '''20 February''' - Aggravating_Art_2982, his older brother, and his older brother's [[sweetheart]] visit Chris. They take a few photos and record a short video.<ref>[[Fan visits#Aggravating Art]]</ref>
* '''20 February''' - Chris talks with KwaiiSandbag on Discord in Psychic Chat #3.<ref>[[KwaiiSandbag calls#Call 3]]</ref>
* '''23 February''' - [[Etsy#Praetor's shop|Golden Sonichu medallions]] are released on [[Praetor]]'s Etsy shop. Praetor announces the purpose of the [[Golden Church of Sonichu]]. The same day, [[Chris Kisses Rosechu]] is recorded, in which "Sonichu" pretends to kiss an imaginary Rosechu.
* '''23 February''' In an attempt to get Chris's attention and inspire him to make some lore, [[MKRNightVee]] texts Chris describing a new [[OC]] named Angefly.<ref>[[MKR DMs#Communication]]</ref><ref>[[The Place chats - Angefly]]</ref>
* '''23 February''' - According to [[Kyle]], around this date, Chris wants to get a hooker and asks him to ask [[Null]] to arrange it.<ref>[[The Place chats (March 2021)#Chris wanted a hooker]]</ref>
* '''24 February''' - Chris [[Chris's birthday|turns 39]].
* '''25 February''' - A teaser and other information about [[MLP]] G5 is released. Chris briefly continues his Sonichu role-play in response,<ref>[[February 2021 social media posts#MLP G5 Leaks]]</ref> opposing the news, then stops the role-play and resumes identifying as Chris again to warn that the [[Dimensional Merge]] is ongoing and doubles down on opposing the new My Little Pony iteration.<ref>[[February 2021 social media posts#Chris comes back from being possessed by Sonichu]]</ref>
*'''27 February''' - Chris is despondent over his lack of a relationship and talks about it with the Watchmen; the conversation also shifts to a discussion of masturbation.<ref>[[The Place chats - Masturbation discussions]]</ref>

==Activity==
===Audio===
*[[KwaiiSandbag calls]]
*[[Taser Discussion]]

===Chats===
*[[Anaxis DMs]]
*[[Golden Church of Sonichu]]
*[[MKR DMs]]
*[[Naught DMs]]
*[[The Place chats (February 2021)]]

===Posts===
*[[February 2021 social media posts]]

===Video===
*[[Chris Kisses Rosechu]]

{{References}}

{{timeline}}

Etsy

2023-08-04T18:37:37Z

Lilacraven: /* Praetor's shop */

[[File:Etsy 3 years complaint.png|thumb|right|An Etsy customer gambled that Chris would deliver and lost, still bitter over it three years later.]]

'''Etsy''' is an online marketplace for handmade, vintage, and craft items and supplies. On 29 [[August 2015]], Chris created an account to sell his wares, ending a long and turbulent tenure as an [[eBay]] seller. Chris spent about one year selling his arts and crafts on eBay, but was never satisfied with the arrangement. eBay frequently took items down, sometimes due to trolls, but more often due to Chris violating the site policy (over and over, in the same way every time). His habits likely caught up with him, because on 8 June 2016, Chris's Etsy seller account was closed.

In 2021, the group [[Praetor]] partnered with Chris, opening a shop owned by Praetor, with products created by the group with Chris's approval.

==Announcement==
[[File:Flyer.jpg|thumb|right|200px|He's probably passing these out at [[Impulse Gay Social Club|Impulse]] too.]]
On 2 September 2015, Chris announced that he was winding down his business on eBay and relocating to Etsy:

{{quotebox|I am Moving Shop to etsy.com; it is Definitely an Improvement from eBay. So, come on down and request a Medallion, a Commission, a Photo, or simply Donate towards Book #11 and Beyond!

Listings for Sonichu and Rosechu, and CWC, Amiibo Figures are Coming Soon.

Have a Great Day!}}

He added:

{{Quote|It is definitely Easier and Better than eBay.}}

The following day he made a Facebook note announcing the switch, and a week later he revealed a flyer for the shop. True and Honest Fans have since found the flyer taped to a bathroom wall in Charlottesville, and had it mailed to a business in Richmond.<ref>https://archive.ph/WSxOY</ref><ref>[[:File:CWCville SC Ad.jpeg]]</ref>

Chris's Etsy shop, which opened for business on 2 September, was named "'''Cwcville Shopping'''," subheaded "Cwcville Shopping Center." The tagline was, "Christine Weston Chandler's Shop for Items and Creations Straight from the Creator of Sonichu, Rosechu, and the City of Cwcville, Va."

An archive of the page as it appeared on 10 Sep 2015 can be seen [https://archive.is/isB96 here].

==Christine Chandler's Profile==
[[File:Etsy profile.png|right|thumb|250px|Chris's Etsy profile.]]
'''About'''

I am an all-around, good natured, high-functioning autistic, Female Lesbian Soul, and Transwoman, artist, gamer and creative type.

I am the Original Creator of Sonichu, Rosechu, and the city of Cwcville, VA.

I like making those close to me emotionally happy. :) And I feel happy about myself.

Lesbian TransWoman

Born on February 24

Joined August 29, 2015

'''Favorite Materials
'''

Crayola Model Magic Clay, Crayola Markers, Paper, Pen, Krazy Glue, Acrylic Paints, and other things

==Items==
By the time Chris left eBay, he was being allowed to sell only one item at a time per his two accounts, due to him constantly breaking site rules. Etsy provided a fresh start, and allowed him to sell as much as he wanted. The [[medallions]], [[autographed photos]], and [[commissions]] appeared immediately, and the [[Sonichu Amiibo]] soon followed. For some reason he chose not to offer any more [[Original Sonichu and Rosechu Drawing|original drawings]] for sale, probably because commission work was more reliable. The product descriptions were largely copied from those on eBay, including instructions regarding "bidding," even though Etsy is a strictly a buy-it-now market. He got the sample photos for his commissions straight from this very wiki.

Autographed paperback copies of ''[[Sonichu 0]]'' through ''4'' were also for sale, made by [[Lulu]]. Sonichu 1 became available only after the [[Sonichu 1#2015 revisions|most recent revisions]] introducing [[Ren Skysoar]] were made, suggesting that someone persuaded him he'd need to make less use of Sega's [[copyright]]ed characters.

Eager fans quickly shelled out money for all these items.

===Donate towards New Comic Book Pages===
{{Main|Sonichu 11}}
{{see also|Donation listing drawings|DStecks}}

An archive of the Donate page can be seen [http://archive.is/hxMPv here].
{{quotebox|
$10.00

'''Overview'''

* Handmade item
* Materials: paper, pen, marker
* Ships worldwide from Ruckersville, Virginia

'''Item Details'''

As a devoted fan to the Sonichu and Rosechu Comic Book Series, I am certain you do want to see More Pages since I ended up with Creator's Block and forced into Hiatus in 2011. Well, I, Christian, now Christine, Weston Chandler, am getting back into the drawing, writing and coloring recently, and working on a schedule that works around my projects as well. And then, I have my own typical stresses in Life and all.

And if you don't feel like buying a medallion, commission, or figure from me, I offer you a chance to donate towards my own peace of mind to further and better draw and create. $10 for One Full Written, Drawn and Colored Page in my current Book, makes a great difference and everyone wins.

And for each person who donates through here, I will draw and send a single Character Drawing as a sign of gratitude. Requests for drawing content are welcomed, but if no request is made, I shall draw a fresh drawing of Sonichu. **Limit One Drawing Per Person, Per Day.

Thank You for your help.

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Not long after listing this, something rather unprecedented happened. A YouTube reviewer named [[DStecks]] gave Chris $1,000 towards the continued production of Sonichu.

Subsequently, Chris edited the price to "$10.00+" and the description to include more options:

{{quotebox|
All completed Past and NEW Pages will be uploaded and Publicly viewable on my Facebook Page, https://www.facebook.com/CwcvilleGuardian, in their respective photo albums. After getting enough funds, I will look further into Paper Self-Publishing and Printing of the books, and shortly after sell them on my shop here.

And for each person who donates through here, I will draw and send a single Character Drawing as a sign of gratitude. Requests for drawing content are welcomed, but if no request is made, I shall draw a fresh drawing of Sonichu. **Limit One Drawing Per Person, Per Day.

And, in the back of the book, I'll put your name there in a dedicated page. You reserve the right to request your name not be listed and remain anonymous.

EVERYONE who Donates gets a Character Drawing and a name in the book's back, each and respectively. But you get more if you Donate More. **ALL Character Drawings will be shipped within two days of Donation.

At the $50.00 Level, you'll get your choice of either a Sonichu Medallion (Or other optional variant or Custom; see Medallion Listing) Or an Autographed Photo of me. Allow up to two weeks for medallion creation.

$100.00 gets you your choice of one of the Sonichu or Rosechu Amiibo Figures, or one of the CWC Amiibo Figures (see their individual listings). Allow up to four weeks for Figure parts being acquired and assembly/creation.

$500.00 gets you a Sonichu Medallion (Or other optional variant or Custom; see Medallion Listing), one Sonichu or Rosechu Amiibo Figure of your choice, AND the three piece set of CWC Amiibo Figures (Pre-2011 Christian Weston Chandler, Chris Chan Sonichu, and Post-2011 Christine Weston Chandler). Allow a Month for Figure parts being acquired and assembly/creation, and you may request an Autographed Photo as well. Depending on the timing of Donation and Page Creation, your name may end up being written into the back(s) of the current book, as well as the following book.

$1,000 gets you the Complete Main Sonichu and Rosechu Amiibo Figure Wave 1 Set (Sonichu, Rosechu, Blake, Wild, Bubbles, Angelica, Punchy and Magi-Chan), the three-piece CWC Amiibo Figure Set (Pre-2011 Christian Weston Chandler, Chris Chan Sonichu, and Post-2011 Christine Weston Chandler), a Sonichu Medallion (Or other optional variant or Custom; see Medallion Listing), and you may request an Autographed Photo as well. Depending on the timing of Donation and Page Creation, your name may end up being written into the back(s) of the current book, as well as the following book, and maybe the one book after that. So, up to three books.

Thank You soo much for your help. Even the little donations help and go a very long way.

<nowiki>**</nowiki>Coupon Codes should NOT be applied to Donations.}}

However, the donation eventually ended up for naught, as Chris soon abandoned Sonichu 11 late next month, making only 16 out of the promised 100 pages.

===Custom, Birthday, Holiday, or General, Greeting Video featuring Christine Weston Chandler===
1 January 2016

Price: $50

This listing is a continuation of an offer from 22 December 2015, when he made [[$50 for a video holiday greeting!]] to announce that anyone paying $50 through the ''Donate'' listing would receive a video.

{{Paid Videos}}

{{quotebox|What you see is what you read in the title of this listing: A personal Greeting or Shout Out video from me, Christine Weston Chandler, the creator and author of Sonichu, Rosechu and the city of Cwcville. See details below, as well as public sample videos on my channel.

**The contents of the video(s) have to be clean and pleasant. Each video will end up resulting up to and around a minute in length, on average, but can be longer in time length. After recording, the video will be uploaded onto my YouTube channel, CwcvilleGuardian, as unlisted.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiYERZuoAiu9ltkMcXZPYRQ
If you wish your video to be Public, instead, please specify with the Variation Option. Time of my being able to record the video and uploading it will vary depending on my state of physical and mental well-being, as well as energy level, and life events and so forth, but more likely, I'll have the video recorded and uploaded within a day or two. After uploading, and confirmation of being able to view it, I will send you the link to your video on the receipt of Sending the item out. All Rights Reserved and everything; safety of my person and being must be maintained. Your requests will be taken under great consideration prior to recording. Thank you for your continuing support and patronage.

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===Christian Weston Chandler... Yep, I'm on T.V. Two DVD Set===
{{main|Christian Weston Chandler...Yep, I'm on TV :)}}
1 February 2016

Price: $30

{{quotebox|This is the DVD I've personally compiled before and completed on February 24, 2007; my 25th Birthday. On Disc One, see just about everything in my life up to my 25th Birthday, including the inspirational message I recorded on the exact day for future generations as well. See past recorded videos, unedited, as well as slideshows of over a thousand photographs of me, my family and (past) friends, with audio featuring myself playing a radio show host with selections of good songs from my music collection.

On Disc Two, there are a few videos recorded After 2/24/2007, including the animations and level videos I have personally created on Sony PlayStation 3's LittleBiGPlanet and LittleBiGPlanet 2, of which are still uploaded and playable from LBP 1, 2 and 3 respectively (I have not uploaded anything from LBP 3, Karting, PSP, or Vita yet). Although, I have uploaded Race Tracks AND Characters on PlayStation 3's ModNation Racers (which are also downloadable and playable on ModNation Racers Road Trip on Vita).

Enjoy an extensive trip through time with all these numerous content pieces from Christine (Christian) Weston Chandler, myself. Total Content Running Time: More than Six Hours. (Get your Binge Watching/Listening On)

**DISCRETION: In the Future Message, since that date, my views on homosexual people was misguided; I have changed my feelings and emotions on the topic, as I, myself, am a Lesbian Transwoman. Everyone, just be yourselves, as you are, and be as happy as possible about yourself.

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==Updates==

On 19 October, Chris began to make updates to his shop, consisting of captioned photos tagged to particular items.

<center><gallery>
File:Ren metal.jpg|Here's the Doctor of Robotics official to the world of Sonichu, Rosechu and Cwcville, Doctor Ren Skysoar. The official maker of Metal Sonichu.

File:AutismamiiboC.jpg|Support Recovery and Research of Autism by purchasing the Autism Mii Character Figure. Ten Dollars from each Autism Mii Figure sale will be donated to the VA Institute of Autism. The Autism character is still difficult to give eye contact.

File:NewAngelicaA.jpg|Angelica looks divine with her Halo, transcending wings, and on a Palutena Base.

File:NewAngelicaB.jpg|Regular Or Black/Dark Pit, her wings are white, and the Pit in the base is still good.

File:SonichuRosechuAmiibo.jpg|<nowiki>**</nowiki>A Golden Opportunity** The Sonichu Amiibo Figures I have been making are closing in on the 50th Sonichu Figure made. The 50th Sonichu Figure will have its base and shoes Totally Painted Gold, and the buyer will get a Bonus Rosechu Figure with it.

File:AmiiboSet.jpg|In Limited Package Quantity available, you can have the complete CWC three piece set, With respective Miis saved onto the human bases' chips. And for a small discount compared to buying them individually.

File:Etsy Update Magi-Chan.jpg|The Meeting of the Minds between Mentor and Padawan as Mewtwo has finally made the scene to battle with Magi-Chan Sonichu! The Mewtwo Base is Now Available as an Option for Magi-Chan Sonichu.

File:7 Nov. 2015 G.jpg|Black Friday Bonuses on Cwcville Shopping! Bonus Free Book 0, 1 or 2 with minimum $50 Purchase (not valid on Donations) Free Bonus Figures with minimum $100 Donations! Don't Delay; Order Today! To get your figures before Christmas.

File:BlakeAmiiboA.jpg|"Blake Sonichu" Friday Deals are in Now until Sunday, November 29, 2015. $5-$10 Off individual Figures (regularly priced $30-$70), $20 Off Figure Bundles, and Free Book deal extended to Sunday (Minimum $50 purchase required).
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==Decline==
In March 2016, Chris bought a PS4. The new life upgrade proved too distracting, as he ignored Etsy orders, often for months.

People who paid him $50 for a video greeting would be told by Chris mid-video that he hoped the video wouldn't be late.<ref>[[Happy Birthday Tom]]</ref><ref>[[Happy Birthday, Jonathan]]</ref>

Despite that, many people were willing to give Chris slack, and often waited months for him to deliver, before giving up and seeking refunds through Paypal.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chriss-etsy-shop-is-possibly-closed-updated-6-8.20473/page-7#post-1452928 (archive: https://archive.ph/YlJVe)</ref><ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/2016-05-24-paypal-dings-cwc-48usd.20998/ (archive: https://archive.ph/qOkij)</ref><ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/yt-6-19-chapter-2-the-autism-strikes-back.21715/page-9#post-1541284 (archive: https://archive.ph/eJA1Y)</ref>

==Shop Closure==
On 8 June 2016, a Kiwi Farms user noticed that Chris's Etsy shop had been replaced with an error message<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chriss-etsy-shop-is-possibly-closed-updated-6-8.20473/page-9#post-1510942 (archive: https://archive.ph/VDch2)</ref>. Days later, on 11 June 2016, Chris announced in a [[Cwcville Shopping is on Vacation|video]] that the shop was "on vacation."

Chris claimed that he needed to catch up on orders. Given Chris's track record with personal responsibility, it's also likely that Etsy shut down the shop after numerous failures by Chris to deliver orders due to [[Chris and work#Chores|his]] [[PlayStation 4|stressful]] [[Chris and health|lifestyle]].

==Praetor's shop==
{{Main|OfficialCWCmart}}
{{quote|Sonicu's Only Offical Page|Etsy profile description}}

In [[December 2020]], Chris announced that he was partnering with [[Praetor]] to sell [[medallions]] on Etsy, and with that he was back in business. This time around, the account (named [[OfficialCWCmart]]) was not under Chris's administration. Instead, it is owned by Praetor, a group of [[enablers]] who were closely affiliated with Chris, and have an agreement to split profits with him.

Praetor handled production and shipment of the medallions and management of the Etsy shop, while Chris gave approved of the medallions, allowed usage of his [[OC]]s and occasionally advertised for the Etsy shop on Twitter. As such, the bulk of the profits went to Praetor - figures cited in February 2021 were $400 for Chris and $6,000 for Praetor (though it is unclear if the $6,000 refers to revenue or profit).<ref>[[Taser Discussion]]</ref>

Customers who bought the illustrious Golden medallions were invited to join the [[Golden Church of Sonichu]], a Discord server run by Praetor, which Chris was also in.

The shop is still active today, selling handmade medallions made by both Chris himself, as well as Praetor, jail art, sonichu sacred rocks, and more. <ref>https://www.etsy.com/ca/shop/OfficialCWCmart</ref>

==Chris's Purchases==
From 22 September 2015 through 1 December, Chris bought at least 51 Amiibricks from seller [https://www.etsy.com/shop/WeekNightStudios/reviews?ref=shop_info WeekNightStudios], spending $209. Chris left several reviews.

22 September
*Bought: 1 brick (25 times, according to [[September 2015 Facebook Posts#AmiiBricks|photos he posted to Facebook]])
*Price: $125
*Rated: 4/5

{{quotebox|The AmiiBrick is good; it functions as stated; my Amiibo figures fit snugly into the bricks, and the bricks attach well onto my Lego plate and bricks. All in all, for a good method of storing/displaying your original and/custom Amiibo figure(s), I would personally recommend one or more AmiiBricks, so they would be less likely to fall off or out upon impact. There is room for slight improvement to make them more flat on the sides. And the top portion can be better flattened and the pegs aligned to better make that sandwich between a 2X2 or a 2X4 on top, the brick(s) or plate on the bottom, and any bricks around the putter sides of the AmiiBrick.}}

25 October

*Bought: 5
*Price: $16
*Rated: 5/5
{{quotebox|New technic rod slots makes for great side to side support with less required base plates.

[[File:Autism on lego.jpg|250px]]}}

25 October

*Bought: 1
*Price: $4
*Rated: 5/5

4 November

*Bought: 5
*Price: $16
*Rated: 5/5

10 November

*Bought: 5
*Price: $16
*Rated: 5/5

10 November

*Bought: 5
*Cost: $16
*Rated: 5/5

1 December

*Bought: 5
*Price: $16
*Rated: 5/5

==See Also==
*[[eBay]]
*[[Lulu]]

==References==
<references/>

==External Links==
*[https://www.etsy.com/shop/CwcvilleShopping Chris's Etsy account] (archive: https://archive.ph/isB96)

{{BusinessList}}

[[Category:Websites]]
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Etsy

2023-08-04T18:37:14Z

Lilacraven: /* Praetor's shop */

[[File:Etsy 3 years complaint.png|thumb|right|An Etsy customer gambled that Chris would deliver and lost, still bitter over it three years later.]]

'''Etsy''' is an online marketplace for handmade, vintage, and craft items and supplies. On 29 [[August 2015]], Chris created an account to sell his wares, ending a long and turbulent tenure as an [[eBay]] seller. Chris spent about one year selling his arts and crafts on eBay, but was never satisfied with the arrangement. eBay frequently took items down, sometimes due to trolls, but more often due to Chris violating the site policy (over and over, in the same way every time). His habits likely caught up with him, because on 8 June 2016, Chris's Etsy seller account was closed.

In 2021, the group [[Praetor]] partnered with Chris, opening a shop owned by Praetor, with products created by the group with Chris's approval.

==Announcement==
[[File:Flyer.jpg|thumb|right|200px|He's probably passing these out at [[Impulse Gay Social Club|Impulse]] too.]]
On 2 September 2015, Chris announced that he was winding down his business on eBay and relocating to Etsy:

{{quotebox|I am Moving Shop to etsy.com; it is Definitely an Improvement from eBay. So, come on down and request a Medallion, a Commission, a Photo, or simply Donate towards Book #11 and Beyond!

Listings for Sonichu and Rosechu, and CWC, Amiibo Figures are Coming Soon.

Have a Great Day!}}

He added:

{{Quote|It is definitely Easier and Better than eBay.}}

The following day he made a Facebook note announcing the switch, and a week later he revealed a flyer for the shop. True and Honest Fans have since found the flyer taped to a bathroom wall in Charlottesville, and had it mailed to a business in Richmond.<ref>https://archive.ph/WSxOY</ref><ref>[[:File:CWCville SC Ad.jpeg]]</ref>

Chris's Etsy shop, which opened for business on 2 September, was named "'''Cwcville Shopping'''," subheaded "Cwcville Shopping Center." The tagline was, "Christine Weston Chandler's Shop for Items and Creations Straight from the Creator of Sonichu, Rosechu, and the City of Cwcville, Va."

An archive of the page as it appeared on 10 Sep 2015 can be seen [https://archive.is/isB96 here].

==Christine Chandler's Profile==
[[File:Etsy profile.png|right|thumb|250px|Chris's Etsy profile.]]
'''About'''

I am an all-around, good natured, high-functioning autistic, Female Lesbian Soul, and Transwoman, artist, gamer and creative type.

I am the Original Creator of Sonichu, Rosechu, and the city of Cwcville, VA.

I like making those close to me emotionally happy. :) And I feel happy about myself.

Lesbian TransWoman

Born on February 24

Joined August 29, 2015

'''Favorite Materials
'''

Crayola Model Magic Clay, Crayola Markers, Paper, Pen, Krazy Glue, Acrylic Paints, and other things

==Items==
By the time Chris left eBay, he was being allowed to sell only one item at a time per his two accounts, due to him constantly breaking site rules. Etsy provided a fresh start, and allowed him to sell as much as he wanted. The [[medallions]], [[autographed photos]], and [[commissions]] appeared immediately, and the [[Sonichu Amiibo]] soon followed. For some reason he chose not to offer any more [[Original Sonichu and Rosechu Drawing|original drawings]] for sale, probably because commission work was more reliable. The product descriptions were largely copied from those on eBay, including instructions regarding "bidding," even though Etsy is a strictly a buy-it-now market. He got the sample photos for his commissions straight from this very wiki.

Autographed paperback copies of ''[[Sonichu 0]]'' through ''4'' were also for sale, made by [[Lulu]]. Sonichu 1 became available only after the [[Sonichu 1#2015 revisions|most recent revisions]] introducing [[Ren Skysoar]] were made, suggesting that someone persuaded him he'd need to make less use of Sega's [[copyright]]ed characters.

Eager fans quickly shelled out money for all these items.

===Donate towards New Comic Book Pages===
{{Main|Sonichu 11}}
{{see also|Donation listing drawings|DStecks}}

An archive of the Donate page can be seen [http://archive.is/hxMPv here].
{{quotebox|
$10.00

'''Overview'''

* Handmade item
* Materials: paper, pen, marker
* Ships worldwide from Ruckersville, Virginia

'''Item Details'''

As a devoted fan to the Sonichu and Rosechu Comic Book Series, I am certain you do want to see More Pages since I ended up with Creator's Block and forced into Hiatus in 2011. Well, I, Christian, now Christine, Weston Chandler, am getting back into the drawing, writing and coloring recently, and working on a schedule that works around my projects as well. And then, I have my own typical stresses in Life and all.

And if you don't feel like buying a medallion, commission, or figure from me, I offer you a chance to donate towards my own peace of mind to further and better draw and create. $10 for One Full Written, Drawn and Colored Page in my current Book, makes a great difference and everyone wins.

And for each person who donates through here, I will draw and send a single Character Drawing as a sign of gratitude. Requests for drawing content are welcomed, but if no request is made, I shall draw a fresh drawing of Sonichu. **Limit One Drawing Per Person, Per Day.

Thank You for your help.

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File:SchuComic11P1.jpg
File:Issue 11 Cover.jpg
File:SchuComic11P9.jpg
File:SchuComic11P12.jpg
File:Copyrightnotice.jpg
</gallery></center>}}

Not long after listing this, something rather unprecedented happened. A YouTube reviewer named [[DStecks]] gave Chris $1,000 towards the continued production of Sonichu.

Subsequently, Chris edited the price to "$10.00+" and the description to include more options:

{{quotebox|
All completed Past and NEW Pages will be uploaded and Publicly viewable on my Facebook Page, https://www.facebook.com/CwcvilleGuardian, in their respective photo albums. After getting enough funds, I will look further into Paper Self-Publishing and Printing of the books, and shortly after sell them on my shop here.

And for each person who donates through here, I will draw and send a single Character Drawing as a sign of gratitude. Requests for drawing content are welcomed, but if no request is made, I shall draw a fresh drawing of Sonichu. **Limit One Drawing Per Person, Per Day.

And, in the back of the book, I'll put your name there in a dedicated page. You reserve the right to request your name not be listed and remain anonymous.

EVERYONE who Donates gets a Character Drawing and a name in the book's back, each and respectively. But you get more if you Donate More. **ALL Character Drawings will be shipped within two days of Donation.

At the $50.00 Level, you'll get your choice of either a Sonichu Medallion (Or other optional variant or Custom; see Medallion Listing) Or an Autographed Photo of me. Allow up to two weeks for medallion creation.

$100.00 gets you your choice of one of the Sonichu or Rosechu Amiibo Figures, or one of the CWC Amiibo Figures (see their individual listings). Allow up to four weeks for Figure parts being acquired and assembly/creation.

$500.00 gets you a Sonichu Medallion (Or other optional variant or Custom; see Medallion Listing), one Sonichu or Rosechu Amiibo Figure of your choice, AND the three piece set of CWC Amiibo Figures (Pre-2011 Christian Weston Chandler, Chris Chan Sonichu, and Post-2011 Christine Weston Chandler). Allow a Month for Figure parts being acquired and assembly/creation, and you may request an Autographed Photo as well. Depending on the timing of Donation and Page Creation, your name may end up being written into the back(s) of the current book, as well as the following book.

$1,000 gets you the Complete Main Sonichu and Rosechu Amiibo Figure Wave 1 Set (Sonichu, Rosechu, Blake, Wild, Bubbles, Angelica, Punchy and Magi-Chan), the three-piece CWC Amiibo Figure Set (Pre-2011 Christian Weston Chandler, Chris Chan Sonichu, and Post-2011 Christine Weston Chandler), a Sonichu Medallion (Or other optional variant or Custom; see Medallion Listing), and you may request an Autographed Photo as well. Depending on the timing of Donation and Page Creation, your name may end up being written into the back(s) of the current book, as well as the following book, and maybe the one book after that. So, up to three books.

Thank You soo much for your help. Even the little donations help and go a very long way.

<nowiki>**</nowiki>Coupon Codes should NOT be applied to Donations.}}

However, the donation eventually ended up for naught, as Chris soon abandoned Sonichu 11 late next month, making only 16 out of the promised 100 pages.

===Custom, Birthday, Holiday, or General, Greeting Video featuring Christine Weston Chandler===
1 January 2016

Price: $50

This listing is a continuation of an offer from 22 December 2015, when he made [[$50 for a video holiday greeting!]] to announce that anyone paying $50 through the ''Donate'' listing would receive a video.

{{Paid Videos}}

{{quotebox|What you see is what you read in the title of this listing: A personal Greeting or Shout Out video from me, Christine Weston Chandler, the creator and author of Sonichu, Rosechu and the city of Cwcville. See details below, as well as public sample videos on my channel.

**The contents of the video(s) have to be clean and pleasant. Each video will end up resulting up to and around a minute in length, on average, but can be longer in time length. After recording, the video will be uploaded onto my YouTube channel, CwcvilleGuardian, as unlisted.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiYERZuoAiu9ltkMcXZPYRQ
If you wish your video to be Public, instead, please specify with the Variation Option. Time of my being able to record the video and uploading it will vary depending on my state of physical and mental well-being, as well as energy level, and life events and so forth, but more likely, I'll have the video recorded and uploaded within a day or two. After uploading, and confirmation of being able to view it, I will send you the link to your video on the receipt of Sending the item out. All Rights Reserved and everything; safety of my person and being must be maintained. Your requests will be taken under great consideration prior to recording. Thank you for your continuing support and patronage.

<center><gallery>
File:Etsyvids.jpeg
File:Etsy unlisted videos.jpg
File:Etsyvids2.jpeg
</gallery></center>}}

===Christian Weston Chandler... Yep, I'm on T.V. Two DVD Set===
{{main|Christian Weston Chandler...Yep, I'm on TV :)}}
1 February 2016

Price: $30

{{quotebox|This is the DVD I've personally compiled before and completed on February 24, 2007; my 25th Birthday. On Disc One, see just about everything in my life up to my 25th Birthday, including the inspirational message I recorded on the exact day for future generations as well. See past recorded videos, unedited, as well as slideshows of over a thousand photographs of me, my family and (past) friends, with audio featuring myself playing a radio show host with selections of good songs from my music collection.

On Disc Two, there are a few videos recorded After 2/24/2007, including the animations and level videos I have personally created on Sony PlayStation 3's LittleBiGPlanet and LittleBiGPlanet 2, of which are still uploaded and playable from LBP 1, 2 and 3 respectively (I have not uploaded anything from LBP 3, Karting, PSP, or Vita yet). Although, I have uploaded Race Tracks AND Characters on PlayStation 3's ModNation Racers (which are also downloadable and playable on ModNation Racers Road Trip on Vita).

Enjoy an extensive trip through time with all these numerous content pieces from Christine (Christian) Weston Chandler, myself. Total Content Running Time: More than Six Hours. (Get your Binge Watching/Listening On)

**DISCRETION: In the Future Message, since that date, my views on homosexual people was misguided; I have changed my feelings and emotions on the topic, as I, myself, am a Lesbian Transwoman. Everyone, just be yourselves, as you are, and be as happy as possible about yourself.

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File:Yepdvd1.jpeg
File:Yepdvd2.jpeg
</gallery></center>
}}

==Updates==

On 19 October, Chris began to make updates to his shop, consisting of captioned photos tagged to particular items.

<center><gallery>
File:Ren metal.jpg|Here's the Doctor of Robotics official to the world of Sonichu, Rosechu and Cwcville, Doctor Ren Skysoar. The official maker of Metal Sonichu.

File:AutismamiiboC.jpg|Support Recovery and Research of Autism by purchasing the Autism Mii Character Figure. Ten Dollars from each Autism Mii Figure sale will be donated to the VA Institute of Autism. The Autism character is still difficult to give eye contact.

File:NewAngelicaA.jpg|Angelica looks divine with her Halo, transcending wings, and on a Palutena Base.

File:NewAngelicaB.jpg|Regular Or Black/Dark Pit, her wings are white, and the Pit in the base is still good.

File:SonichuRosechuAmiibo.jpg|<nowiki>**</nowiki>A Golden Opportunity** The Sonichu Amiibo Figures I have been making are closing in on the 50th Sonichu Figure made. The 50th Sonichu Figure will have its base and shoes Totally Painted Gold, and the buyer will get a Bonus Rosechu Figure with it.

File:AmiiboSet.jpg|In Limited Package Quantity available, you can have the complete CWC three piece set, With respective Miis saved onto the human bases' chips. And for a small discount compared to buying them individually.

File:Etsy Update Magi-Chan.jpg|The Meeting of the Minds between Mentor and Padawan as Mewtwo has finally made the scene to battle with Magi-Chan Sonichu! The Mewtwo Base is Now Available as an Option for Magi-Chan Sonichu.

File:7 Nov. 2015 G.jpg|Black Friday Bonuses on Cwcville Shopping! Bonus Free Book 0, 1 or 2 with minimum $50 Purchase (not valid on Donations) Free Bonus Figures with minimum $100 Donations! Don't Delay; Order Today! To get your figures before Christmas.

File:BlakeAmiiboA.jpg|"Blake Sonichu" Friday Deals are in Now until Sunday, November 29, 2015. $5-$10 Off individual Figures (regularly priced $30-$70), $20 Off Figure Bundles, and Free Book deal extended to Sunday (Minimum $50 purchase required).
</gallery></center>

==Decline==
In March 2016, Chris bought a PS4. The new life upgrade proved too distracting, as he ignored Etsy orders, often for months.

People who paid him $50 for a video greeting would be told by Chris mid-video that he hoped the video wouldn't be late.<ref>[[Happy Birthday Tom]]</ref><ref>[[Happy Birthday, Jonathan]]</ref>

Despite that, many people were willing to give Chris slack, and often waited months for him to deliver, before giving up and seeking refunds through Paypal.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chriss-etsy-shop-is-possibly-closed-updated-6-8.20473/page-7#post-1452928 (archive: https://archive.ph/YlJVe)</ref><ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/2016-05-24-paypal-dings-cwc-48usd.20998/ (archive: https://archive.ph/qOkij)</ref><ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/yt-6-19-chapter-2-the-autism-strikes-back.21715/page-9#post-1541284 (archive: https://archive.ph/eJA1Y)</ref>

==Shop Closure==
On 8 June 2016, a Kiwi Farms user noticed that Chris's Etsy shop had been replaced with an error message<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chriss-etsy-shop-is-possibly-closed-updated-6-8.20473/page-9#post-1510942 (archive: https://archive.ph/VDch2)</ref>. Days later, on 11 June 2016, Chris announced in a [[Cwcville Shopping is on Vacation|video]] that the shop was "on vacation."

Chris claimed that he needed to catch up on orders. Given Chris's track record with personal responsibility, it's also likely that Etsy shut down the shop after numerous failures by Chris to deliver orders due to [[Chris and work#Chores|his]] [[PlayStation 4|stressful]] [[Chris and health|lifestyle]].

==Praetor's shop==
{{Main|OfficialCWCmart}}
{{quote|Sonicu's Only Offical Page|Etsy profile description}}

In [[December 2020]], Chris announced that he was partnering with [[Praetor]] to sell [[medallions]] on Etsy, and with that he was back in business. This time around, the account (named [[OfficialCWCmart]]) was not under Chris's administration. Instead, it is owned by Praetor, a group of [[enablers]] who were closely affiliated with Chris, and have an agreement to split profits with him.

Praetor handled production and shipment of the medallions and management of the Etsy shop, while Chris gave approved of the medallions, allowed usage of his [[OC]]s and occasionally advertised for the Etsy shop on Twitter. As such, the bulk of the profits went to Praetor - figures cited in February 2021 were $400 for Chris and $6,000 for Praetor (though it is unclear if the $6,000 refers to revenue or profit).<ref>[[Taser Discussion]]</ref>

Customers who bought the illustrious Golden medallions were invited to join the [[Golden Church of Sonichu]], a Discord server run by Praetor, which Chris was also in.

The shop is still active today, selling handmade medallions made by both Chris himself, as well as Praetor, jail art, sonichu sacret rocks, and more. <ref>https://www.etsy.com/ca/shop/OfficialCWCmart</ref>

==Chris's Purchases==
From 22 September 2015 through 1 December, Chris bought at least 51 Amiibricks from seller [https://www.etsy.com/shop/WeekNightStudios/reviews?ref=shop_info WeekNightStudios], spending $209. Chris left several reviews.

22 September
*Bought: 1 brick (25 times, according to [[September 2015 Facebook Posts#AmiiBricks|photos he posted to Facebook]])
*Price: $125
*Rated: 4/5

{{quotebox|The AmiiBrick is good; it functions as stated; my Amiibo figures fit snugly into the bricks, and the bricks attach well onto my Lego plate and bricks. All in all, for a good method of storing/displaying your original and/custom Amiibo figure(s), I would personally recommend one or more AmiiBricks, so they would be less likely to fall off or out upon impact. There is room for slight improvement to make them more flat on the sides. And the top portion can be better flattened and the pegs aligned to better make that sandwich between a 2X2 or a 2X4 on top, the brick(s) or plate on the bottom, and any bricks around the putter sides of the AmiiBrick.}}

25 October

*Bought: 5
*Price: $16
*Rated: 5/5
{{quotebox|New technic rod slots makes for great side to side support with less required base plates.

[[File:Autism on lego.jpg|250px]]}}

25 October

*Bought: 1
*Price: $4
*Rated: 5/5

4 November

*Bought: 5
*Price: $16
*Rated: 5/5

10 November

*Bought: 5
*Price: $16
*Rated: 5/5

10 November

*Bought: 5
*Cost: $16
*Rated: 5/5

1 December

*Bought: 5
*Price: $16
*Rated: 5/5

==See Also==
*[[eBay]]
*[[Lulu]]

==References==
<references/>

==External Links==
*[https://www.etsy.com/shop/CwcvilleShopping Chris's Etsy account] (archive: https://archive.ph/isB96)

{{BusinessList}}

[[Category:Websites]]
[[Category:Business]]

Etsy

2023-08-04T18:37:00Z

Lilacraven: /* Praetor's shop */

[[File:Etsy 3 years complaint.png|thumb|right|An Etsy customer gambled that Chris would deliver and lost, still bitter over it three years later.]]

'''Etsy''' is an online marketplace for handmade, vintage, and craft items and supplies. On 29 [[August 2015]], Chris created an account to sell his wares, ending a long and turbulent tenure as an [[eBay]] seller. Chris spent about one year selling his arts and crafts on eBay, but was never satisfied with the arrangement. eBay frequently took items down, sometimes due to trolls, but more often due to Chris violating the site policy (over and over, in the same way every time). His habits likely caught up with him, because on 8 June 2016, Chris's Etsy seller account was closed.

In 2021, the group [[Praetor]] partnered with Chris, opening a shop owned by Praetor, with products created by the group with Chris's approval.

==Announcement==
[[File:Flyer.jpg|thumb|right|200px|He's probably passing these out at [[Impulse Gay Social Club|Impulse]] too.]]
On 2 September 2015, Chris announced that he was winding down his business on eBay and relocating to Etsy:

{{quotebox|I am Moving Shop to etsy.com; it is Definitely an Improvement from eBay. So, come on down and request a Medallion, a Commission, a Photo, or simply Donate towards Book #11 and Beyond!

Listings for Sonichu and Rosechu, and CWC, Amiibo Figures are Coming Soon.

Have a Great Day!}}

He added:

{{Quote|It is definitely Easier and Better than eBay.}}

The following day he made a Facebook note announcing the switch, and a week later he revealed a flyer for the shop. True and Honest Fans have since found the flyer taped to a bathroom wall in Charlottesville, and had it mailed to a business in Richmond.<ref>https://archive.ph/WSxOY</ref><ref>[[:File:CWCville SC Ad.jpeg]]</ref>

Chris's Etsy shop, which opened for business on 2 September, was named "'''Cwcville Shopping'''," subheaded "Cwcville Shopping Center." The tagline was, "Christine Weston Chandler's Shop for Items and Creations Straight from the Creator of Sonichu, Rosechu, and the City of Cwcville, Va."

An archive of the page as it appeared on 10 Sep 2015 can be seen [https://archive.is/isB96 here].

==Christine Chandler's Profile==
[[File:Etsy profile.png|right|thumb|250px|Chris's Etsy profile.]]
'''About'''

I am an all-around, good natured, high-functioning autistic, Female Lesbian Soul, and Transwoman, artist, gamer and creative type.

I am the Original Creator of Sonichu, Rosechu, and the city of Cwcville, VA.

I like making those close to me emotionally happy. :) And I feel happy about myself.

Lesbian TransWoman

Born on February 24

Joined August 29, 2015

'''Favorite Materials
'''

Crayola Model Magic Clay, Crayola Markers, Paper, Pen, Krazy Glue, Acrylic Paints, and other things

==Items==
By the time Chris left eBay, he was being allowed to sell only one item at a time per his two accounts, due to him constantly breaking site rules. Etsy provided a fresh start, and allowed him to sell as much as he wanted. The [[medallions]], [[autographed photos]], and [[commissions]] appeared immediately, and the [[Sonichu Amiibo]] soon followed. For some reason he chose not to offer any more [[Original Sonichu and Rosechu Drawing|original drawings]] for sale, probably because commission work was more reliable. The product descriptions were largely copied from those on eBay, including instructions regarding "bidding," even though Etsy is a strictly a buy-it-now market. He got the sample photos for his commissions straight from this very wiki.

Autographed paperback copies of ''[[Sonichu 0]]'' through ''4'' were also for sale, made by [[Lulu]]. Sonichu 1 became available only after the [[Sonichu 1#2015 revisions|most recent revisions]] introducing [[Ren Skysoar]] were made, suggesting that someone persuaded him he'd need to make less use of Sega's [[copyright]]ed characters.

Eager fans quickly shelled out money for all these items.

===Donate towards New Comic Book Pages===
{{Main|Sonichu 11}}
{{see also|Donation listing drawings|DStecks}}

An archive of the Donate page can be seen [http://archive.is/hxMPv here].
{{quotebox|
$10.00

'''Overview'''

* Handmade item
* Materials: paper, pen, marker
* Ships worldwide from Ruckersville, Virginia

'''Item Details'''

As a devoted fan to the Sonichu and Rosechu Comic Book Series, I am certain you do want to see More Pages since I ended up with Creator's Block and forced into Hiatus in 2011. Well, I, Christian, now Christine, Weston Chandler, am getting back into the drawing, writing and coloring recently, and working on a schedule that works around my projects as well. And then, I have my own typical stresses in Life and all.

And if you don't feel like buying a medallion, commission, or figure from me, I offer you a chance to donate towards my own peace of mind to further and better draw and create. $10 for One Full Written, Drawn and Colored Page in my current Book, makes a great difference and everyone wins.

And for each person who donates through here, I will draw and send a single Character Drawing as a sign of gratitude. Requests for drawing content are welcomed, but if no request is made, I shall draw a fresh drawing of Sonichu. **Limit One Drawing Per Person, Per Day.

Thank You for your help.

<center><gallery>
File:SchuComic11P1.jpg
File:Issue 11 Cover.jpg
File:SchuComic11P9.jpg
File:SchuComic11P12.jpg
File:Copyrightnotice.jpg
</gallery></center>}}

Not long after listing this, something rather unprecedented happened. A YouTube reviewer named [[DStecks]] gave Chris $1,000 towards the continued production of Sonichu.

Subsequently, Chris edited the price to "$10.00+" and the description to include more options:

{{quotebox|
All completed Past and NEW Pages will be uploaded and Publicly viewable on my Facebook Page, https://www.facebook.com/CwcvilleGuardian, in their respective photo albums. After getting enough funds, I will look further into Paper Self-Publishing and Printing of the books, and shortly after sell them on my shop here.

And for each person who donates through here, I will draw and send a single Character Drawing as a sign of gratitude. Requests for drawing content are welcomed, but if no request is made, I shall draw a fresh drawing of Sonichu. **Limit One Drawing Per Person, Per Day.

And, in the back of the book, I'll put your name there in a dedicated page. You reserve the right to request your name not be listed and remain anonymous.

EVERYONE who Donates gets a Character Drawing and a name in the book's back, each and respectively. But you get more if you Donate More. **ALL Character Drawings will be shipped within two days of Donation.

At the $50.00 Level, you'll get your choice of either a Sonichu Medallion (Or other optional variant or Custom; see Medallion Listing) Or an Autographed Photo of me. Allow up to two weeks for medallion creation.

$100.00 gets you your choice of one of the Sonichu or Rosechu Amiibo Figures, or one of the CWC Amiibo Figures (see their individual listings). Allow up to four weeks for Figure parts being acquired and assembly/creation.

$500.00 gets you a Sonichu Medallion (Or other optional variant or Custom; see Medallion Listing), one Sonichu or Rosechu Amiibo Figure of your choice, AND the three piece set of CWC Amiibo Figures (Pre-2011 Christian Weston Chandler, Chris Chan Sonichu, and Post-2011 Christine Weston Chandler). Allow a Month for Figure parts being acquired and assembly/creation, and you may request an Autographed Photo as well. Depending on the timing of Donation and Page Creation, your name may end up being written into the back(s) of the current book, as well as the following book.

$1,000 gets you the Complete Main Sonichu and Rosechu Amiibo Figure Wave 1 Set (Sonichu, Rosechu, Blake, Wild, Bubbles, Angelica, Punchy and Magi-Chan), the three-piece CWC Amiibo Figure Set (Pre-2011 Christian Weston Chandler, Chris Chan Sonichu, and Post-2011 Christine Weston Chandler), a Sonichu Medallion (Or other optional variant or Custom; see Medallion Listing), and you may request an Autographed Photo as well. Depending on the timing of Donation and Page Creation, your name may end up being written into the back(s) of the current book, as well as the following book, and maybe the one book after that. So, up to three books.

Thank You soo much for your help. Even the little donations help and go a very long way.

<nowiki>**</nowiki>Coupon Codes should NOT be applied to Donations.}}

However, the donation eventually ended up for naught, as Chris soon abandoned Sonichu 11 late next month, making only 16 out of the promised 100 pages.

===Custom, Birthday, Holiday, or General, Greeting Video featuring Christine Weston Chandler===
1 January 2016

Price: $50

This listing is a continuation of an offer from 22 December 2015, when he made [[$50 for a video holiday greeting!]] to announce that anyone paying $50 through the ''Donate'' listing would receive a video.

{{Paid Videos}}

{{quotebox|What you see is what you read in the title of this listing: A personal Greeting or Shout Out video from me, Christine Weston Chandler, the creator and author of Sonichu, Rosechu and the city of Cwcville. See details below, as well as public sample videos on my channel.

**The contents of the video(s) have to be clean and pleasant. Each video will end up resulting up to and around a minute in length, on average, but can be longer in time length. After recording, the video will be uploaded onto my YouTube channel, CwcvilleGuardian, as unlisted.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiYERZuoAiu9ltkMcXZPYRQ
If you wish your video to be Public, instead, please specify with the Variation Option. Time of my being able to record the video and uploading it will vary depending on my state of physical and mental well-being, as well as energy level, and life events and so forth, but more likely, I'll have the video recorded and uploaded within a day or two. After uploading, and confirmation of being able to view it, I will send you the link to your video on the receipt of Sending the item out. All Rights Reserved and everything; safety of my person and being must be maintained. Your requests will be taken under great consideration prior to recording. Thank you for your continuing support and patronage.

<center><gallery>
File:Etsyvids.jpeg
File:Etsy unlisted videos.jpg
File:Etsyvids2.jpeg
</gallery></center>}}

===Christian Weston Chandler... Yep, I'm on T.V. Two DVD Set===
{{main|Christian Weston Chandler...Yep, I'm on TV :)}}
1 February 2016

Price: $30

{{quotebox|This is the DVD I've personally compiled before and completed on February 24, 2007; my 25th Birthday. On Disc One, see just about everything in my life up to my 25th Birthday, including the inspirational message I recorded on the exact day for future generations as well. See past recorded videos, unedited, as well as slideshows of over a thousand photographs of me, my family and (past) friends, with audio featuring myself playing a radio show host with selections of good songs from my music collection.

On Disc Two, there are a few videos recorded After 2/24/2007, including the animations and level videos I have personally created on Sony PlayStation 3's LittleBiGPlanet and LittleBiGPlanet 2, of which are still uploaded and playable from LBP 1, 2 and 3 respectively (I have not uploaded anything from LBP 3, Karting, PSP, or Vita yet). Although, I have uploaded Race Tracks AND Characters on PlayStation 3's ModNation Racers (which are also downloadable and playable on ModNation Racers Road Trip on Vita).

Enjoy an extensive trip through time with all these numerous content pieces from Christine (Christian) Weston Chandler, myself. Total Content Running Time: More than Six Hours. (Get your Binge Watching/Listening On)

**DISCRETION: In the Future Message, since that date, my views on homosexual people was misguided; I have changed my feelings and emotions on the topic, as I, myself, am a Lesbian Transwoman. Everyone, just be yourselves, as you are, and be as happy as possible about yourself.

<center><gallery>
File:Yepdvd1.jpeg
File:Yepdvd2.jpeg
</gallery></center>
}}

==Updates==

On 19 October, Chris began to make updates to his shop, consisting of captioned photos tagged to particular items.

<center><gallery>
File:Ren metal.jpg|Here's the Doctor of Robotics official to the world of Sonichu, Rosechu and Cwcville, Doctor Ren Skysoar. The official maker of Metal Sonichu.

File:AutismamiiboC.jpg|Support Recovery and Research of Autism by purchasing the Autism Mii Character Figure. Ten Dollars from each Autism Mii Figure sale will be donated to the VA Institute of Autism. The Autism character is still difficult to give eye contact.

File:NewAngelicaA.jpg|Angelica looks divine with her Halo, transcending wings, and on a Palutena Base.

File:NewAngelicaB.jpg|Regular Or Black/Dark Pit, her wings are white, and the Pit in the base is still good.

File:SonichuRosechuAmiibo.jpg|<nowiki>**</nowiki>A Golden Opportunity** The Sonichu Amiibo Figures I have been making are closing in on the 50th Sonichu Figure made. The 50th Sonichu Figure will have its base and shoes Totally Painted Gold, and the buyer will get a Bonus Rosechu Figure with it.

File:AmiiboSet.jpg|In Limited Package Quantity available, you can have the complete CWC three piece set, With respective Miis saved onto the human bases' chips. And for a small discount compared to buying them individually.

File:Etsy Update Magi-Chan.jpg|The Meeting of the Minds between Mentor and Padawan as Mewtwo has finally made the scene to battle with Magi-Chan Sonichu! The Mewtwo Base is Now Available as an Option for Magi-Chan Sonichu.

File:7 Nov. 2015 G.jpg|Black Friday Bonuses on Cwcville Shopping! Bonus Free Book 0, 1 or 2 with minimum $50 Purchase (not valid on Donations) Free Bonus Figures with minimum $100 Donations! Don't Delay; Order Today! To get your figures before Christmas.

File:BlakeAmiiboA.jpg|"Blake Sonichu" Friday Deals are in Now until Sunday, November 29, 2015. $5-$10 Off individual Figures (regularly priced $30-$70), $20 Off Figure Bundles, and Free Book deal extended to Sunday (Minimum $50 purchase required).
</gallery></center>

==Decline==
In March 2016, Chris bought a PS4. The new life upgrade proved too distracting, as he ignored Etsy orders, often for months.

People who paid him $50 for a video greeting would be told by Chris mid-video that he hoped the video wouldn't be late.<ref>[[Happy Birthday Tom]]</ref><ref>[[Happy Birthday, Jonathan]]</ref>

Despite that, many people were willing to give Chris slack, and often waited months for him to deliver, before giving up and seeking refunds through Paypal.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chriss-etsy-shop-is-possibly-closed-updated-6-8.20473/page-7#post-1452928 (archive: https://archive.ph/YlJVe)</ref><ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/2016-05-24-paypal-dings-cwc-48usd.20998/ (archive: https://archive.ph/qOkij)</ref><ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/yt-6-19-chapter-2-the-autism-strikes-back.21715/page-9#post-1541284 (archive: https://archive.ph/eJA1Y)</ref>

==Shop Closure==
On 8 June 2016, a Kiwi Farms user noticed that Chris's Etsy shop had been replaced with an error message<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chriss-etsy-shop-is-possibly-closed-updated-6-8.20473/page-9#post-1510942 (archive: https://archive.ph/VDch2)</ref>. Days later, on 11 June 2016, Chris announced in a [[Cwcville Shopping is on Vacation|video]] that the shop was "on vacation."

Chris claimed that he needed to catch up on orders. Given Chris's track record with personal responsibility, it's also likely that Etsy shut down the shop after numerous failures by Chris to deliver orders due to [[Chris and work#Chores|his]] [[PlayStation 4|stressful]] [[Chris and health|lifestyle]].

==Praetor's shop==
{{Main|OfficialCWCmart}}
{{quote|Sonicu's Only Offical Page|Etsy profile description}}

In [[December 2020]], Chris announced that he was partnering with [[Praetor]] to sell [[medallions]] on Etsy, and with that he was back in business. This time around, the account (named [[OfficialCWCmart]]) was not under Chris's administration. Instead, it is owned by Praetor, a group of [[enablers]] who were closely affiliated with Chris, and have an agreement to split profits with him.

Praetor handled production and shipment of the medallions and management of the Etsy shop, while Chris gave approved of the medallions, allowed usage of his [[OC]]s and occasionally advertised for the Etsy shop on Twitter. As such, the bulk of the profits went to Praetor - figures cited in February 2021 were $400 for Chris and $6,000 for Praetor (though it is unclear if the $6,000 refers to revenue or profit).<ref>[[Taser Discussion]]</ref>

Customers who bought the illustrious Golden medallions were invited to join the [[Golden Church of Sonichu]], a Discord server run by Praetor, which Chris was also in.

The shop is still active today, selling handmade medallions made by both Chris himself, as well as Praetor, jail art, sonichu sacret rocks, and more. <ref>https://www.etsy.com/ca/shop/OfficialCWCmart</ref.

==Chris's Purchases==
From 22 September 2015 through 1 December, Chris bought at least 51 Amiibricks from seller [https://www.etsy.com/shop/WeekNightStudios/reviews?ref=shop_info WeekNightStudios], spending $209. Chris left several reviews.

22 September
*Bought: 1 brick (25 times, according to [[September 2015 Facebook Posts#AmiiBricks|photos he posted to Facebook]])
*Price: $125
*Rated: 4/5

{{quotebox|The AmiiBrick is good; it functions as stated; my Amiibo figures fit snugly into the bricks, and the bricks attach well onto my Lego plate and bricks. All in all, for a good method of storing/displaying your original and/custom Amiibo figure(s), I would personally recommend one or more AmiiBricks, so they would be less likely to fall off or out upon impact. There is room for slight improvement to make them more flat on the sides. And the top portion can be better flattened and the pegs aligned to better make that sandwich between a 2X2 or a 2X4 on top, the brick(s) or plate on the bottom, and any bricks around the putter sides of the AmiiBrick.}}

25 October

*Bought: 5
*Price: $16
*Rated: 5/5
{{quotebox|New technic rod slots makes for great side to side support with less required base plates.

[[File:Autism on lego.jpg|250px]]}}

25 October

*Bought: 1
*Price: $4
*Rated: 5/5

4 November

*Bought: 5
*Price: $16
*Rated: 5/5

10 November

*Bought: 5
*Price: $16
*Rated: 5/5

10 November

*Bought: 5
*Cost: $16
*Rated: 5/5

1 December

*Bought: 5
*Price: $16
*Rated: 5/5

==See Also==
*[[eBay]]
*[[Lulu]]

==References==
<references/>

==External Links==
*[https://www.etsy.com/shop/CwcvilleShopping Chris's Etsy account] (archive: https://archive.ph/isB96)

{{BusinessList}}

[[Category:Websites]]
[[Category:Business]]

February 2021

2023-08-04T18:33:30Z

Lilacraven: /* Highlights */

{{SonichuPossession}}

[[File:CWCCoinPose.jpg|thumb|Chris posing for [[Null]] in February 2021.]]

'''February''' was the second month of [[2021]]. Chris [[Spirit possession|stopped roleplaying as Sonichu]] after nearly an entire year.

Chris's sex drive ramped up. He had a sexual dream, chatted about being lonely and wanting a relationship, allegedly desired a hooker, and discussed masturbation.

Chris wanted to use a [[taser]] on his [[Gate Crystal]] and [[Celestial Key]] [[quartz crystals]] in an attempt to open an inter-dimensional portal and bring about the [[Merge]]; this resulted in fighting between the [[Watchmen]] white knight group and [[Praetor]] (who was to enable Chris by meeting up and letting him use one of their tasers). The Watchmen crafted and spread rumors on the taser matter, to which Chris claimed the taser was his own idea, leading to tensions between the Watchmen and Chris.

[[KwaiiSandbag]], an enabler pretending to be a psychic, contacted Chris and the two chatted in several calls.

==Highlights==
* '''2 February''' - Chris dreams of almost having sex with ''Sonic'' character Sally Acorn.<ref>[[The Place chats (February 2021)#Sally Acorn Dream]]</ref>
* '''2 February''' - Chris describes wanting to use piezoelectric crystals to open a portal and activate the [[Dimensional Merge]].<ref>[[The Place chats - Piezoelectric Crystals]]</ref>
* '''3 February''' - The initial run of [[Praetor]] Sonichu [[medallions]] are released on Praetor's [[Etsy#Medallions (1st run)|Etsy shop]].
* '''4 February''' - At [[Null]]'s request, Chris poses for a photo<ref>[[:File:CWCCoinPose.jpg]]</ref> to be used in a silver coin design for the [[Kiwi Farms]]'s merch run.
* '''4 February''' - [[The Vaughn Interlude]], a set of messages between the [[Watchmen]] and Chris, is released, giving context to [[Larry Vaughn]]'s manipulation of Chris.
* '''5 February''' - Chris plans to use a taser to stun his [[quartz crystals]] as an attempt to activate the [[Dimensional Merge]].<ref>[[Naught DMs#Chris wants to activate the Merge by playing with taser]]</ref>
* '''8 February''' - Several times throughout the day, multiple [[Watchmen]], a member of [[Praetor]], and Chris confront each other regarding the possibility of Chris experimenting with a taser to activate the Dimensional Merge.<ref>[[Thinking with Portals#Praetor and the Taser]]</ref><ref>[[The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations#8February 2021]]</ref><ref>[[Taser Discussion]]</ref>
* '''8 February''' - [[Watchmen]] member [[Naught]] posts an out-of-context clip from the [[Taser Discussion]] call to [[Kiwi Farms]];<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/feb-5-2021-chris-wants-to-play-with-taser-to-activate-the-merge.84502/post-8301396</ref> Watchman [[MKR]] tweets an out-of-context screenshot from the [[The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations#8 February 2021, part 2|Watchmen's discussion with Praetor]] in order to spread disinformation on Praetor's motives.<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1358939937463169024 (archive: https://archive.ph/PYMQh)</ref>
* '''9 February''' - Chris responds to [[KwaiiSandbag]], an enabler pretending to be a psychic.
* '''10 February''' - Chris talks with KwaiiSandbag on Discord in Psychic Chat #1.<ref>[[KwaiiSandbag calls#Call 1]]</ref>
* '''11 February''' - [[GiBi]] uploads a video which spreads the [[Watchmen]]'s spin on the [[taser]] situation. Chris comments on the video, claiming the taser was his idea and defending [[Praetor]].<ref>[[List of Chris's comments on YouTube#Chris Chan is Convinced to Taser Himself]]</ref>
* '''11 February''' - The [[Larry Vaughn DMs]] are leaked.
* '''13 February''' - Chris criticizes aggressive behavior in [[Watchmen]] Discord server [[The Place]].<ref>[[The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations#13 February 2021]]</ref>
* '''13 February''' - [[Thinking with Portals]], a set of messages between the [[Watchmen]], Chris, and [[Praetor]], is released. In it, the parties argued over the taser situation, and Chris described more of his delusional [[Meditation|daydreams]] on his magical "origin story" and [[Dimensional Merge]] lore.
* '''14 February''' - Chris talks with KwaiiSandbag on Discord in Psychic Chat #2.<ref>[[KwaiiSandbag calls#Call 2]]</ref>
* '''17 February''' - Chris discusses with the [[Watchmen]] his feelings of loneliness and desire for a relationship.<ref>[[The Place chats - Lonely Feelings]]</ref>
* '''20 February''' - Aggravating_Art_2982, his older brother, and his older brother's [[sweetheart]] visit Chris. They take a few photos and record a short video.<ref>[[Fan visits#Aggravating Art]]</ref>
* '''20 February''' - Chris talks with KwaiiSandbag on Discord in Psychic Chat #3.<ref>[[KwaiiSandbag calls#Call 3]]</ref>
* '''23 February''' - [[Etsy#Praetor's shop|Golden Sonichu medallions]] are released on [[Praetor]]'s Etsy shop. The same day, [[Chris Kisses Rosechu]] is recorded, in which "Sonichu" pretends to kiss an imaginary Rosechu.
* '''23 February''' In an attempt to get Chris's attention and inspire him to make some lore, [[MKRNightVee]] texts Chris describing a new [[OC]] named Angefly.<ref>[[MKR DMs#Communication]]</ref><ref>[[The Place chats - Angefly]]</ref>
* '''23 February''' - According to [[Kyle]], around this date, Chris wants to get a hooker and asks him to ask [[Null]] to arrange it.<ref>[[The Place chats (March 2021)#Chris wanted a hooker]]</ref>
* '''24 February''' - Chris [[Chris's birthday|turns 39]].
* '''25 February''' - A teaser and other information about [[MLP]] G5 is released. Chris briefly continues his Sonichu role-play in response,<ref>[[February 2021 social media posts#MLP G5 Leaks]]</ref> opposing the news, then stops the role-play and resumes identifying as Chris again to warn that the [[Dimensional Merge]] is ongoing and doubles down on opposing the new My Little Pony iteration.<ref>[[February 2021 social media posts#Chris comes back from being possessed by Sonichu]]</ref>
*'''27 February''' - Chris is despondent over his lack of a relationship and talks about it with the Watchmen; the conversation also shifts to a discussion of masturbation.<ref>[[The Place chats - Masturbation discussions]]</ref>

==Activity==
===Audio===
*[[KwaiiSandbag calls]]
*[[Taser Discussion]]

===Chats===
*[[Anaxis DMs]]
*[[Golden Church of Sonichu]]
*[[MKR DMs]]
*[[Naught DMs]]
*[[The Place chats (February 2021)]]

===Posts===
*[[February 2021 social media posts]]

===Video===
*[[Chris Kisses Rosechu]]

{{References}}

{{timeline}}

Golden Church of Sonichu

2023-08-04T18:29:48Z

Lilacraven:

{{Incomplete|Transcripts of messages.}}
{{SonichuPossession}}

'''Golden Church of Sonichu''' is a [[Discord]] server set up by [[Praetor]], exclusive to customers who bought a golden medallion off of Praetor's [[OfficialCWCmart]] page.

==Transfer to CWCville==
17 [[February 2021]]

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|Hey, I am feeling uncertain, disgruntled, and mildy confused. All I consciously know at the moment is that everything of the dimension merge is continuing on better now, and shortly enough I will be in Cwcville with this body, and during the present time I am to chill and give this body a bunch of self-love. Yet, as I've mensioned to y'all earlier on Instagram, this body and brain are still harping on its failure of a mutual respected/love cuddle or lay in this universe.}}
{{quotebox|My bad for not starting this thread with more positive news.}}
{{quotebox|Thanks for listening.}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=censored user|So, is Christine's spirit in her body in this world?}}

21 February 2021

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris(as Sonichu)|No, Chris is still in my body in universe C-197.}}

==Project List==
23 February 2021

{{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Praetor|@everyone

Hey ya'll!

The purpose of this discord, this Church, is to bring about collaboration in order to further the omnipotent grasp of Chris Chan Sonichu and our allies.

That being said, these are the current projects being worked on:

-Christine has fully greenlit [red censored user]'s video game. Please message Chris directly as soon as possible, as Christine would like to provide some direction with the game's storyline.

-The Praetor Flamethrower will be stress-tested this upcoming week at a local firing range sponsoring us. Please standby for future details.

-Christine has approved the future sale of Potions blessed by her. These are to be sold for less than $17 apiece, but a fixed price has not yet been decided. We need help finding cheaply shipped glassware in bulk. As cheap as possible is best, as we are going to be selling 3-4 kinds of potions stocked at at least 12 each. Bottles must be at very least 4oz, at most 16oz.

-Christine's Golden Medallions have already sold out. Expect more members soon.

-Test footage for @Deleted User has been filmed in order to see if she can cgi a Sonichu next to Chris, allowing us to feature a Sonichu in the upcoming Chris Chan Movie. Please complete this as soon as possible, and we will kiss you on the mouth.

-If any ideas, products, or other marketable content comes to mind, please drop it in the main Discord Chat. Thanks again.}}
{{quoteboxgray|speaker=Deleted User|Me and my friend can work on cgi, but frame by frame may look more similar and be easier to fix and shape to Sonichus preference}}
{{quoteboxred|speaker=red censored user|Rad. Just messaged her}}

==Not Yet in CWCville==

24 February 2021

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|Hey, y'all.}}
{{quotebox|Just kinda emoting out some; did today's meditate in the gazebo with the gate crystal and all.}}
{{quotebox|It's Christine Weston Chandler Sonichu's birthday; she's still in my body in Cwcville, and I, Sonichu Prime, am still in her body in this universe. I am feeling like, "Why the hell am I not in Cwcville with this body today of all days!?"}}
{{quotebox|Hey, @Praetor, it looks like all of the golden medallions have been sold; awesome job, dude.}}
{{quotebox|Such a premature return body swap would not only be very bad to this timeline, but it is not in either our control to make the return swap.}}

==Return Body Swap==
25 February 2021

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Christine: And yet, the fated return swap happened last night}}
{{quotebox|Too much going on right now.}}
{{quotebox|I return from C-197 after ten months and 24 days, and My Little Pony G5 is still not cancelled?!}}
{{quotebox|As having to resync with my own brain and body was not bad enough; this apocalyptic thing is still going on. It's a major pain in the Cosmos as well.}}

==Meditation==
5 [[March 2021]]
{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Hello, peoples.}}
{{quotebox|A Christian and a Silver walk into a bar, and they have this very conversation right now.}}
{{quotebox|And then the Goddess behind the counter says, "Tea and biscuits on me."}}
{{quotebox|''3 tumbler glass emoji, 1 teapot emoji, and 3 dumpling emoji''}}
{{quotebox|I'm feeling well and good right now, about to go into another meditate hour.}}

==DM Ideas==
6 March 2021

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Hey, [redacted], DM me what ideas you have so far, and I'll put in my thoughts from there, please.}}

==Further Meditation==
10 March 2021

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Greetings, @everyone.}}
{{quotebox|I have been meditating further into myself lately; it was very long overdue on my part.}}
{{quotebox|I am getting my body more back into movements and reconnecting with nature was well.}}
{{quotebox|I also am going to be making my own long-overdue lists of my own faults, as well as counter-affirmations, and then burning the fault list to release that known and self-judgements and self-criticisms of the past into the void of nothingness.}}
{{quotebox|I am also pleased to announce that I have personally found confirmation in other psychic, magic, and creative/artist types, and those the higher level of sensitive feeling and sensing the Dimension Merge, in its apex processes at the present. One such high-level psychic refers to it as a "Collective Shift", and and they have confirmed from consulting with their spirits and other-dimensional individuals of my many, many years of personally participating and working hard interdimensionally and intergalactically.}}
{{quotebox|I feel most humbled and pleased with my work being most recognized and fully appreciated.}}
{{quotebox|The events are continuing on as foreseen and considerably scheduled for this timeline.}}
{{quotebox|For the present parts, on my end, I am focusing more on myself, my loves, and going with the flow.}}
{{quotebox|Tis a very positive and good development indeed. ''(edited)''}}
{{quotebox|@everyone, please feel free to spread this good news as you will with your friends. Also, offer kindest respects to all psychic and magic types; feel encouraged to consult with a psychic to have your remaining questions answered in regards to the Dimension Merge/Collective Shift.}}
{{quotebox|And, of course, support all creative and artist types, even though not all of them are presently linked with universe C-197 in their works.}}
{{quotebox|For now, I bless everyone in this Discord server now and incoming. Be safe and well; have a great day.}}
{{quotebox|''lightning, blue heart, lightning emoji''}}

==Petition to Cancel [[MLP]] G5==
12 March 2021

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|@everyone, you can all help in securing a bit of safety in one aspect of our merging universes today. ''(links to a change.org petition to "Cancel/Postpone G5 My Little Pony")''}}

==Affirmations List==
12 March 2021

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Hey, @everyone, I've just finished my affirmations list, after going through the self-criticisms list; I will likely add more to the affirmations list. As I have foreseen, the positives outweight the blockages. The blockages took up two pages; affirmations Three.}}
{{quotebox|''3 attached images containing 3 handwritten pages of Chris's self-affirmations''}}

13 March 2021
{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|No, it's still in progress.}}

==Deep Body Soul Searching==
22 March 2021
{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Good morning, @everyone.}}
{{quotebox|I have had a revelation of a find after further deep body-soul searching.}}
{{quotebox|I post these pre-types screen caps that lay it out:}}
{{quotebox|''5 attached screenshots of another Discord conversation in a different server, revealing that Chris uses Discord on light mode.''}}
{{quotebox|Obviously, I'd like to prevent a very crucial murder from happening.}}
{{quotebox|So, outsource, and check everyone online and offline for those amongst the possible young(ish)-adult type feeling lost, maybe partially Woke, on the verge of greater Enlightenment.}}
{{quotebox|Please, and Thank You.}}

==[[Sockness]]==
28 March 2021
{{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Praetor|Sockness. The address said San Fran, that's where he is right?}}
{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Unfortunately, that IS Jacob's address.}}
{{quotebox|I should know; he bought the oldest pair of painted Adidas shoes I've about worn out from eBay; logged his address into the contacts for reference.}}

==Slim Activity==
30 March 2021
{{quoteboxred|speaker=Sloth|Hey! Nice to meet everybody. I'm sloth but my real name is Micah!}}
{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Matt|Hi all and Christine, robes sound cool, I've been playing around with just a general rugby top look plus the medallion also you can call me [redacted] or Matt (my actual name) either works for me ''(edited)''}}
{{quoteboxred|speaker=Sloth|Hi Matt! I'd definitely be into robes too. I like the idea of robes with stripes, and maybe the colors of the stripes signify your importance in the church.}}
{{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Praetor|@everyone As of now activity on this discord may be a bit slim. However, we aim to get ourselves and Christine far more active here! Please toss any ideas you got in the chat, as we're looking to do anything to further the power of the Golden Church.}}
{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Matt|I managed to get a similar rl rugby top so I've been rocking it for a bit now I have some sneakers (with multiple colors so blue and yellow are there) so it's a pretty rad look with the medallion.}}
{{quoteboxyellow|But yeah I agree with the rugby top colours but I think that incorporating the blue and yellow would be a nice touch}}
{{quotebox|speaker=Marie|welcome micah !}}

==Chris's Corporeal Form==
31 March 2021

{{quoteboxgray|speaker=unknown redacted user #1|As a trans humanist I'm am keenly interested in your opinion @CWCSonichu1982 on the effects of a dimensional merge and the releasing of a physical form, as a goddess would you say you would retain a corporeal form? Or would you be a higher being with need for such things? }}

6 [[April 2021]]

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|My body is light, able to adapt to any other universes' situations on any planet or within outer space. I also have the power and energy of the Chaos Emeralds within me; for that same reason whithin Sonic, Sonichu, and the rest, this is also why they and I can breathe in space.}}
{{quotebox|Anyway}}
{{quotebox|Hey, @everyone. I am pleased to announce to all of you that for each of you,
your respective divine enlightenments and manifested paths to your greater purposes in the Dimension Merge/Collective Shift are at hand. Be greater aware of your local surroundings, as well as an increase in your respective body's abilities and powers. Go forth and do your best as you each will.}}

{{quoteboxgray|speaker=unknown redacted user #1| Thanks for the insight, personally I like the idea of light being pure data, basically have an effect on the physical and the digital. I really want to ask more but I dont want to flood chat xD, thanks for your encouraging words Christine!}}

11 April 2021

{{quoteboxred|speaker=unknown redacted user #2|Hell yeah}}
{{quoteboxred|Been looking forward to some enlightenment}}

==Gallery==
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==External links==
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBR8fWlfTOo A YouTube video of screenshots from the server]
{{FanChats}}
{{PraetorSaga}}
[[Category:Discord servers]]

Golden Church of Sonichu

2023-08-04T18:24:55Z

Lilacraven: More transcripts

{{Incomplete|Transcripts of messages.}}
{{SonichuPossession}}

'''Golden Church of Sonichu''' is a [[Discord]] server set up by [[Praetor]], exclusive to customers who bought a golden medallion off of Praetor's [[OfficialCWCmart]] page.

==Transfer to CWCville==
17 February 2021

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|Hey, I am feeling uncertain, disgruntled, and mildy confused. All I consciously know at the moment is that everything of the dimension merge is continuing on better now, and shortly enough I will be in Cwcville with this body, and during the present time I am to chill and give this body a bunch of self-love. Yet, as I've mensioned to y'all earlier on Instagram, this body and brain are still harping on its failure of a mutual respected/love cuddle or lay in this universe.}}
{{quotebox|My bad for not starting this thread with more positive news.}}
{{quotebox|Thanks for listening.}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=censored user|So, is Christine's spirit in her body in this world?}}

21 February 2021

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris(as Sonichu)|No, Chris is still in my body in universe C-197.}}

==Project List==
23 February 2021

{{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Praetor|@everyone

Hey ya'll!

The purpose of this discord, this Church, is to bring about collaboration in order to further the omnipotent grasp of Chris Chan Sonichu and our allies.

That being said, these are the current projects being worked on:

-Christine has fully greenlit [red censored user]'s video game. Please message Chris directly as soon as possible, as Christine would like to provide some direction with the game's storyline.

-The Praetor Flamethrower will be stress-tested this upcoming week at a local firing range sponsoring us. Please standby for future details.

-Christine has approved the future sale of Potions blessed by her. These are to be sold for less than $17 apiece, but a fixed price has not yet been decided. We need help finding cheaply shipped glassware in bulk. As cheap as possible is best, as we are going to be selling 3-4 kinds of potions stocked at at least 12 each. Bottles must be at very least 4oz, at most 16oz.

-Christine's Golden Medallions have already sold out. Expect more members soon.

-Test footage for @Deleted User has been filmed in order to see if she can cgi a Sonichu next to Chris, allowing us to feature a Sonichu in the upcoming Chris Chan Movie. Please complete this as soon as possible, and we will kiss you on the mouth.

-If any ideas, products, or other marketable content comes to mind, please drop it in the main Discord Chat. Thanks again.}}
{{quoteboxgray|speaker=Deleted User|Me and my friend can work on cgi, but frame by frame may look more similar and be easier to fix and shape to Sonichus preference}}
{{quoteboxred|speaker=red censored user|Rad. Just messaged her}}

==Not Yet in CWCville==

24 February 2021

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|Hey, y'all.}}
{{quotebox|Just kinda emoting out some; did today's meditate in the gazebo with the gate crystal and all.}}
{{quotebox|It's Christine Weston Chandler Sonichu's birthday; she's still in my body in Cwcville, and I, Sonichu Prime, am still in her body in this universe. I am feeling like, "Why the hell am I not in Cwcville with this body today of all days!?"}}
{{quotebox|Hey, @Praetor, it looks like all of the golden medallions have been sold; awesome job, dude.}}
{{quotebox|Such a premature return body swap would not only be very bad to this timeline, but it is not in either our control to make the return swap.}}

==Return Body Swap==
25 February 2021

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Christine: And yet, the fated return swap happened last night}}
{{quotebox|Too much going on right now.}}
{{quotebox|I return from C-197 after ten months and 24 days, and My Little Pony G5 is still not cancelled?!}}
{{quotebox|As having to resync with my own brain and body was not bad enough; this apocalyptic thing is still going on. It's a major pain in the Cosmos as well.}}

==Meditation==
5 March 2021
{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Hello, peoples.}}
{{quotebox|A Christian and a Silver walk into a bar, and they have this very conversation right now.}}
{{quotebox|And then the Goddess behind the counter says, "Tea and biscuits on me."}}
{{quotebox|''3 tumbler glass emoji, 1 teapot emoji, and 3 dumpling emoji''}}
{{quotebox|I'm feeling well and good right now, about to go into another meditate hour.}}

==DM Ideas==
6 March 2021

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Hey, [redacted], DM me what ideas you have so far, and I'll put in my thoughts from there, please.}}

==Further Meditation==
10 March 2021

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Greetings, @everyone.}}
{{quotebox|I have been meditating further into myself lately; it was very long overdue on my part.}}
{{quotebox|I am getting my body more back into movements and reconnecting with nature was well.}}
{{quotebox|I also am going to be making my own long-overdue lists of my own faults, as well as counter-affirmations, and then burning the fault list to release that known and self-judgements and self-criticisms of the past into the void of nothingness.}}
{{quotebox|I am also pleased to announce that I have personally found confirmation in other psychic, magic, and creative/artist types, and those the higher level of sensitive feeling and sensing the Dimension Merge, in its apex processes at the present. One such high-level psychic refers to it as a "Collective Shift", and and they have confirmed from consulting with their spirits and other-dimensional individuals of my many, many years of personally participating and working hard interdimensionally and intergalactically.}}
{{quotebox|I feel most humbled and pleased with my work being most recognized and fully appreciated.}}
{{quotebox|The events are continuing on as foreseen and considerably scheduled for this timeline.}}
{{quotebox|For the present parts, on my end, I am focusing more on myself, my loves, and going with the flow.}}
{{quotebox|Tis a very positive and good development indeed. ''(edited)''}}
{{quotebox|@everyone, please feel free to spread this good news as you will with your friends. Also, offer kindest respects to all psychic and magic types; feel encouraged to consult with a psychic to have your remaining questions answered in regards to the Dimension Merge/Collective Shift.}}
{{quotebox|And, of course, support all creative and artist types, even though not all of them are presently linked with universe C-197 in their works.}}
{{quotebox|For now, I bless everyone in this Discord server now and incoming. Be safe and well; have a great day.}}
{{quotebox|''lightning, blue heart, lightning emoji''}}

==Petition to Cancel [[MLP]] G5==
12 March 2021

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|@everyone, you can all help in securing a bit of safety in one aspect of our merging universes today. ''(links to a change.org petition to "Cancel/Postpone G5 My Little Pony")''}}

==Affirmations List==
12 March 2021

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Hey, @everyone, I've just finished my affirmations list, after going through the self-criticisms list; I will likely add more to the affirmations list. As I have foreseen, the positives outweight the blockages. The blockages took up two pages; affirmations Three.}}
{{quotebox|''3 attached images containing 3 handwritten pages of Chris's self-affirmations''}}

13 March 2021
{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|No, it's still in progress.}}

==Deep Body Soul Searching==
22 March 2021
{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Good morning, @everyone.}}
{{quotebox|I have had a revelation of a find after further deep body-soul searching.}}
{{quotebox|I post these pre-types screen caps that lay it out:}}
{{quotebox|''5 attached screenshots of another Discord conversation in a different server, revealing that Chris uses Discord on light mode.''}}
{{quotebox|Obviously, I'd like to prevent a very crucial murder from happening.}}
{{quotebox|So, outsource, and check everyone online and offline for those amongst the possible young(ish)-adult type feeling lost, maybe partially Woke, on the verge of greater Enlightenment.}}
{{quotebox|Please, and Thank You.}}

==[[Sockness]]==
28 March 2021
{{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Praetor|Sockness. The address said San Fran, that's where he is right?}}
{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Unfortunately, that IS Jacob's address.}}
{{quotebox|I should know; he bought the oldest pair of painted Adidas shoes I've about worn out from eBay; logged his address into the contacts for reference.}}

==Slim Activity==
30 March 2021
{{quoteboxred|speaker=Sloth|Hey! Nice to meet everybody. I'm sloth but my real name is Micah!}}
{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Matt|Hi all and Christine, robes sound cool, I've been playing around with just a general rugby top look plus the medallion also you can call me [redacted] or Matt (my actual name) either works for me ''(edited)''}}
{{quoteboxred|speaker=Sloth|Hi Matt! I'd definitely be into robes too. I like the idea of robes with stripes, and maybe the colors of the stripes signify your importance in the church.}}
{{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Praetor|@everyone As of now activity on this discord may be a bit slim. However, we aim to get ourselves and Christine far more active here! Please toss any ideas you got in the chat, as we're looking to do anything to further the power of the Golden Church.}}
{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Matt|I managed to get a similar rl rugby top so I've been rocking it for a bit now I have some sneakers (with multiple colors so blue and yellow are there) so it's a pretty rad look with the medallion.}}
{{quoteboxyellow|But yeah I agree with the rugby top colours but I think that incorporating the blue and yellow would be a nice touch}}
{{quotebox|speaker=Marie|welcome micah !}}

==Chris's Corporeal Form==
31 March 2021

{{quoteboxgray|speaker=unknown redacted user #1|As a trans humanist I'm am keenly interested in your opinion @CWCSonichu1982 on the effects of a dimensional merge and the releasing of a physical form, as a goddess would you say you would retain a corporeal form? Or would you be a higher being with need for such things? }}

6 April 2021

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|My body is light, able to adapt to any other universes' situations on any planet or within outer space. I also have the power and energy of the Chaos Emeralds within me; for that same reason whithin Sonic, Sonichu, and the rest, this is also why they and I can breathe in space.}}
{{quotebox|Anyway}}
{{quotebox|Hey, @everyone. I am pleased to announce to all of you that for each of you,
your respective divine enlightenments and manifested paths to your greater purposes in the Dimension Merge/Collective Shift are at hand. Be greater aware of your local surroundings, as well as an increase in your respective body's abilities and powers. Go forth and do your best as you each will.}}

{{quoteboxgray|speaker=unknown redacted user #1| Thanks for the insight, personally I like the idea of light being pure data, basically have an effect on the physical and the digital. I really want to ask more but I dont want to flood chat xD, thanks for your encouraging words Christine!}}

11 April 2021

{{quoteboxred|speaker=unknown redacted user #2|Hell yeah}}
{{quoteboxred|Been looking forward to some enlightenment}}

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==External links==
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBR8fWlfTOo A YouTube video of screenshots from the server]
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{{PraetorSaga}}
[[Category:Discord servers]]

Golden Church of Sonichu

2023-08-04T17:51:29Z

Lilacraven: /* Petition to Cancel MLP G5 */

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Lilacraven:

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Lilacraven: /* Further Meditation */

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2023-08-04T17:47:00Z

Lilacraven: /* Further Meditation */

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2023-08-04T17:36:06Z

Lilacraven: /* DM Ideas */

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2023-08-04T17:35:46Z

Lilacraven: /* DM Ideas */

Golden Church of Sonichu

2023-08-04T17:34:36Z

Lilacraven: /* Meditation */

Golden Church of Sonichu

2023-08-04T13:51:41Z

Lilacraven: /* Transfer to CWCville */ completed messages for February 2021

{{Incomplete|Transcripts of messages.}}
{{SonichuPossession}}

'''Golden Church of Sonichu''' is a [[Discord]] server set up by [[Praetor]], exclusive to customers who bought a golden medallion off of Praetor's [[OfficialCWCmart]] page.

==Chris's chats==
Below is a set of messages that Chris sent in the server.

===Transfer to CWCville===
17 February 2021

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|Hey, I am feeling uncertain, disgruntled, and mildy confused. All I consciously know at the moment is that everything of the dimension merge is continuing on better now, and shortly enough I will be in Cwcville with this body, and during the present time I am to chill and give this body a bunch of self-love. Yet, as I've mensioned to y'all earlier on Instagram, this body and brain are still harping on its failure of a mutual respected/love cuddle or lay in this universe.}}
{{quotebox|My bad for not starting this thread with more positive news.}}
{{quotebox|Thanks for listening.}}

21 February 2021

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris(as Sonichu)|No, Chris is still in my body in universe C-197.}}

24 February 2021

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|Hey, y'all.}}
{{quotebox|Just kinda emoting out some; did today's meditate in the gazebo with the gate crystal and all.}}
{{quotebox|It's Christine Weston Chandler Sonichu's bitchday; she's still in my body in Cwcville, and I, Sonichu Prime, am still in her body in this universe. I am feeling like, "Why the hell am I not in Cwcville with this body today of all days!?"}}
{{quotebox|Hey, @Praetor, it looks like all of the golden medallions have been sold; awesome job, dude.}}
{{quotebox|Such a premature return body swap would not only be very bad to this timeline, but it is not in either our control to make the return swap.}}

25 February 2021

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Christine: And yet, the fated return swap happened last night}}
{{quotebox|Too much going on right now.}}
{{quotebox|I return from C-197 after tem months and 24 days, and My Little Pony G5 is still not cancelled?!}}
{{quotebox|As having to resync with my own brain and body was not bad enough; this apocalyptic thing is still going on. It's a major pain in the Cosmos as well.}}

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==External links==
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBR8fWlfTOo A YouTube video of screenshots from the server]
{{FanChats}}
{{PraetorSaga}}
[[Category:Discord servers]]

Golden Church of Sonichu

2023-08-04T13:45:01Z

Lilacraven: /* Transfer to CWCville */ Added some chats, adding more soon

{{Incomplete|Transcripts of messages.}}
{{SonichuPossession}}

'''Golden Church of Sonichu''' is a [[Discord]] server set up by [[Praetor]], exclusive to customers who bought a golden medallion off of Praetor's [[OfficialCWCmart]] page.

==Chris's chats==
Below is a set of messages that Chris sent in the server.

===Transfer to CWCville===
17 February 2021

{{quotebox|Hey, I am feeling uncertain, disgruntled, and mildy confused. All I consciously know at the moment is that everything of the dimension merge is continuing on better now, and shortly enough I will be in Cwcville with this body, and during the present time I am to chill and give this body a bunch of self-love. Yet, as I've mensioned to y'all earlier on Instagram, this body and brain are still harping on its failure of a mutual respected/love cuddle or lay in this universe.}}
{{quotebox|My bad for not starting this thread with more positive news.}}
{{quotebox|Thanks for listening.}}

21 February 2021

{{quotebox|No, Chris is still in my body in universe C-197.}}

24 February 2021

{{quotebox|Hey, y'all.}}
{{quotebox|Just kinda emoting out some; did today's meditate in the gazebo with the gate crystal and all.}}
{{quotebox|It's Christine Weston Chandler Sonichu's bitchday; she's still in my body in Cwcville, and I, Sonichu Prime, am still in her body in this universe. I am feeling like, "Why the hell am I not in Cwcville with this body today of all days!?"}}

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==External links==
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBR8fWlfTOo A YouTube video of screenshots from the server]
{{FanChats}}
{{PraetorSaga}}
[[Category:Discord servers]]

Pokémon

2023-08-03T21:34:37Z

Lilacraven: Corrected inaccuracies

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[[Image:0647-CWCAshAnime.jpg|thumb|right|OH, BOY! SLAM ATTACK, Y'ALL!]]

[[File:486-CWCcatchesaPikachu.JPG|thumb|Chris [[Attraction Sign|seeks out]] a Pikachu.]]

'''''Pokémon''''' (occasionally spelled "'''Pok'emon'''" by [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]) is a Japanese cultural phenomenon that is beloved by children around the world, and a multimedia franchise encompassing [[video games]], [[card games]], [[toys]], various [[anime]] series, and much, much more. It is the world's largest media franchise, and the second-biggest video game franchise, only beaten by [[Nintendo]]'s own ''Mario'' franchise.

Some fans of the series actually became invested at an older age than most, and a certain [[Autism|autistic]] person named Christian Weston Chandler happens to be one of them, in part due to his arrested development, and due to his love of video games, anime, and television in general. It is highly integral to his life, as without ''Pokémon'', the world of ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' wouldn't exist.

==Chris-chan in the ''Pokémon'' World==
Chris, according to the "Sonichu" article on the [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu CWCipedia], sees himself as an official Pokémon gym leader. He claims to have over 387 Pokémon leveled-up to level 100 on his ''Pokémon Diamond'' game, all of them being trained without any kind of cheating or Rare Candies. It's not certain whether this is true, but given the fact he owns [[List of Chris's games|every ''Pokémon'' game]] and game system, has no life at all, and has paid off several mortgages in ''[[Animal Crossing]]'' (a feat requiring hundreds of hours of gameplay), it may very well be.

As the leader of the [[CWCville]] Pokémon Gym, Chris has a fairly unimaginative team:
:* [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] - A [[Parody|recolor]] (and not even a real Pokémon)
:* [[Anime|Inuyasha]] - A [[Wikipedia:Blaziken|Blaziken]]
:* [[Gregg Mays|Greg]] - A [[Wikipedia:Swampert|Swampert]]
:* [[Chris and his Ego|Christina]] - A [[Wikipedia:Sceptile|Sceptile]]
:* [[Vanessa Hudgens|Vanessa]] - A [[Wikipedia:Gardevoir|Gardevoir]] (note that Gardevoir is seen as a [[women's rights|sex symbol]] in Pokémon fan rings)
:* [[Random-access humor|Bagoner]] - A [[Wikipedia:Salamence|Salamence]]

Chris has repeatedly listed his work as a Pokémon gym leader at [[Books-A-Million]] and [[The GAMe PLACe]] as an actual volunteer job in his [[resume]] and elsewhere, ignoring that he was never paid,<ref>[[Father Call#The Pokémon Volunteer Who Lives with His Parents (4:28-11:01)|Father Call]]</ref> had no authority,<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Follow-up]]</ref> and was actually closely monitored by the actual employees (at least for the latter store). Furthermore, he wasn't actually a real gym leader; he only acted as a substitute for when the regular gym leader wasn't at the GAMe PLACe, and even then was rarely left in charge due to his short temper and not liking handling all the losses and wins, among other things. He would wind up being banned from the store for two weeks for an incident where he took out a box meant only for employees and actual gym leaders without permission.

For years, his [[Chris and cosplaying#Ash Ketchum cosplay|main cosplay]]/[[Chris and fashion|outfit of choice]] was a Pokémon trainer outfit styled after Ash Ketchum, the lead character of the ''Pokémon'' anime. He wore this cosplay to the [[2004]] [[Anime Mid-Atlantic]] convention, and donned it every week at the GAMe PLACe<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Chris's behavior]]</ref> until around 2004.

Chris has expressed the desire to make his house address, [[14 Branchland Court]], a Pokéstop in the mobile game ''Pokémon Go''.

==Pokémon characters in the ''Sonichu'' universe==
===Pokémon appearing within the comics===
====[[Wikipedia:Pikachu|Pikachu]]====
[[File:Pika.PNG|thumb|Poor Pikachu - he did not know the horrors fate had in store for him.]]
Transformed into [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] in [[Sonichu 0|''Sonichu'' #0]]. Despite the importance of ''Sonichu'' "lore", this is basically the only time a Pikachu appears or is mentioned in the comic. From this point on, it's all just shitty recolors of Chris's first shitty recolor.

====[[Wikipedia:Raichu|Raichu]]====
Transformed into [[Rosechu]] by the [[Rainbow]] in [[Sonichu 0|''Sonichu'' #0]], otherwise the same deal as Pikachu.

====[[Wikipedia:Dragonite|David the Dragonite/Daisy the Dragonite]]====
[[File:DD.PNG|thumb|Kel with her Dragonite.]]
A Dragonite [[Kel]] also owned. The considerate Pokémon trainer offered his [[Duck|sexual services]] to [[Rosechu]] when the latter was [[Masturbating and squirtin'|in heat]], noting that he's "[[Honest|loyal]]". Rosechu sensibly declined, stating that David is "[[Obesity|just too big]]".

Strangely enough, David may have been [[retcon]]ned into "Daisy the Dragonite", as indicated by a listing of Kel's Pokémon on [[CWCipedia]]. David, who appeared in [[Issue 0|issue #0]] (Episodes #2 and #3), is not mentioned on the list, though Daisy is and is the only Dragonite on the list. It would not be out of the question to think that Chris simply forgot about David's importance to the canon and retconned him into a girl, especially probable due to the fact that both names begin with the same letter.

====[[Wikipedia:Zapdos|Zapdos]]====
[[Image:Zapdos.jpg|thumb|Zapdos remains unamused by Chris's shenanigans.]]
An Electric-type [[Pokémon]] and one of the three legendary birds. Zapdos was used by [[Naitsirhc]] to capture [[Rosechu]] and battle [[Sonichu]] in CWCville Mall. Although Sonichu was victorious, Naitsirhc obtained a sample of Sonichu's [[Semen|DNA]], which he would later use in the creation of [[Black Sonichu]].

====[[Wikipedia:Raikou|Raikou]]====
[[Image:CWCSTRIPES.jpg|thumb|right|Oh the narcissism.]]
Used by [[Naitsirhc]] as a getaway ride in the same episode. Has stripes that spell out "[[CWC]]". Why Naitsirhc never used this powerful legendary Pokémon in a fight is anyone's guess.

====[[Wikipedia:Venusaur|Venusaur]]====
[[File:Venusaur.jpg|thumb|200px|left|She has to put up with his retardation.]]
A female Venusaur in the jungle discovered [[Wild Sonichu]]'s egg and adopted him. As Wild inexplicably has retractable tentacles in his arms, the Venusaur trained him in using them to grasp objects. On the other hand, she may have rightly tried to drop a coconut on his head.

====[[Wikipedia:Scyther|Scyther]]====
[[File:Scyther.jpg|thumb|200px|left|The Scyther who fathered Wild Sonichu...[[Chris and art|we think.]]]]
For no obvious reason, a male Scyther assumed the role of [[Wild Sonichu]]'s father. Whether this is because it was screwing his Venusaur mother (a pairing that couldn't have produced offspring) or felt some obligation to help her raise Wild is unclear. The Scyther trained Wild in using his "Razor Leaf" attacks to cut down trees and such. Scyther cannot actually learn the move Razor Leaf in the video games.

In [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]], Wild would tell Sonichu and Rosechu of the last time he saw his adoptive father. According to Wild, his father was the leader of the "Cut-Sharp" Clan of "Scyther and Scizor". At some point, the "Charmeleon Cult" burned down the dojo in the jungle that served as their headquarters. Wild joined his father on a mission to take [[I'LL BREAK YOU DEAD|revenge]], but the Scyther was intercepted and captured by poachers instead. Wild cried like a bitch while the poachers loaded his dad in their van, then finally attempted to use his super powers to free him. The Scyther told him to stop, however, since he knew Wild was too much of a failure to cut through the steel frame of the van. Wild's last memory of his father was of "the passing-of-the-torch look in his eyes."<ref name="Sonichu8Page9">[[Sonichu 8]], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/a/a1/SchuComic8P14.jpg page 9]</ref>

The [[CWCipedia]] [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Wild+Sonichu#The_Father_is_Captured article on Wild] gives a slightly different version of the Scyther's capture. In this telling, Wild and his father were scanning the forest for predators rather than trying to seek revenge on the Charmeleons. When Wild detected poachers, the Scyther went on to attack them but was captured in the process, leading to the same ending in which the other version of the story concluded.

====[[Wikipedia:Swampert|Swampert]]====
A female Swampert adopted [[Bubbles Rosechu]] upon discovering her egg on the beach.<ref name="Sonichu3Page4">[[Sonichu 3]], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/e/e9/SchuComic3P4.jpg page 4]</ref> Unlike Wild's parents, the Swampert doesn't seem to have taught Bubbles much of anything, and the pair spent her childhood splashing in the water like idiots. This idyllic existence was brought to an end when a Wailord dropped a giant boulder on the Swampert for no apparent reason.<ref name="Sonichu3Page4" /> Unable to rescue her mother in her immature Rosey body, Bubbles evolved into her Rosechu form, and somehow used an ice beam to save the Swampert from drowning.<ref name="Sonichu3Page5">[[Sonichu 3]], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/6/62/SchuComic3P5.jpg page 5]</ref>

While Bubbles continues to live on the beach, the Swampert has not been seen since her first appearance. This would suggest that at some point, the Wailord returned to finish the job.

According to the [[CWCipedia]], the [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Comic Chris]] has a Swampert in his possession called Greg which he used in his battles against [[Naitsirch]] and [[Kel]].<ref name="Son cpedia" /><ref name="Ros cpedia" /> Its male name suggests it is not the same Swampert who raised Bubbles, as the latter is explicitly referred to as a female both in the comic<ref name="Sonichu3Page5" /> and in Bubbles own CWCipedia article.<ref name="Bub cpedia">[[CWCipedia]] on [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Bubbles_Rosechu Bubbles]</ref>

====[[Wikipedia:Wailord|Boulder-Dropping Whale]]====
[[Image:Boulder_Whale.jpg|160px|thumb|left|The Boulder-Dropping Whale's lone appearance in the comic.]]
As the name suggests, Boulder-Dropping Whale is a creature resembling a whale, who summoned a boulder out of the sky. This signature attack was used against the Swampert who raised Bubbles Rosechu,<ref name="Sonichu3Page4" /> and would have drowned the Swampert if not for Bubbles's timely intervention.<ref name="Sonichu3Page5" /> Although never named in the comic, the whale's anonymity and murderous hatred for ''Sonichu'' characters has earned him a cult following among [[trolls|fans]], who have dubbed him "Boulder-Dropping Whale", or "BDW" for short.

Chris stated several times <ref name="Bub cpedia" /><ref name="CWCblog">[[CWC Blog#12 January 2010]]</ref><ref>[[Sonichu 3 Official Videobook]]</ref> that it is a Wailord, a Pokémon that closely resembles a whale. This makes sense, as Chris always uses Pokémon when drawing background fauna in his comics, such as the underwater scene in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]], which featured only Pokémon sea creatures and no naturally occurring wildlife. Further, BDW's trademark attack appears to resemble "[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Rock_Tomb_%28move%29 Rock Tomb]", an attack available to many Pokémon in the video games, including Wailord. However, Chris has claimed that the boulder was in fact "attached to the Wailord's underbelly, like barnicles ''[sic]''", and fell off not due to murderous intent, but simply gravity.<ref>[[Common_Questions#22_February_2010|Common Questions]]</ref>

Nevertheless, the name "Boulder-Dropping Whale" has stuck, and no matter what his species, he remains a fan favorite, and was prominent in the [[parody]] series ''[[Moon-Pals]]''.

Chris also stated that Boulder-Dropping Whale had been captured, and was currently being forced to fight in the senseless battles of some random Pokémon trainer.<ref name="CWCblog" />

====[[Wikipedia:Mewtwo|Mewtwo]]====
[[Image:Mewtwo.PNG|thumb|right|Mewtwo is not pleased with Chris.]]
[[File:Mewtwo magichan married.jpg|thumb|Fun fact: that's not what triage means.]]
A powerful, reclusive Pokémon genetically engineered from the DNA of the rare Mew, Mewtwo escaped from his creators and briefly plotted to conquer the world in the first ''Pokémon'' feature film. Mewtwo's dark, brooding nature and vast psychic abilities would serve as Chris's "inspiration" for [[Magi-Chan|Magi-Chan Sonichu]], whose egg hatched in the same cave Mewtwo lived in during the movie. As if the connection weren't blatant enough, Chris established that Mewtwo served as Magi-Chan's mentor, contacting him at birth via telepathy and teaching him to use his mental powers. Aside from his mental rapport with Mewtwo, Magi-Chan grew up completely isolated from the rest of the world. In a half-assed attempt to introduce him to civilization, Mewtwo projected memories of Jackie Chan films, other people's birthday parties, and various tourist attractions. Two weeks after Magi-Chan evolved into his Sonichu form, Mewtwo sent him out into the world, promising that they would one day meet face-to-face. As Chris has probably forgotten all about this, though, it'll probably never happen.

Christian has also notably claimed on the [[CWCipedia]] once that [[Reldnahc]] had a Mewtwo on his Pokémon team.<ref name="Son cpedia">[[CWCipedia]] on [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu Sonichu]</ref> It can be assumed that this is the same one, although how this came to pass has never been explained.

In [[January 2018]], Chris, under the influence of the [[Idea Guy]], revealed that Mewtwo and [[Magi-Chan]] had got married.<ref>[[January_2018_Facebook_posts#Mewtwo_and_Magi-Chan_married]]</ref> They later joined with Chris, [[Cryzel]] and [[Magi-Chan]] in a [[polyamorous marriage]].

====[[Wikipedia:Snorlax|Snorlax]]====
[[File:0839-MomDesi.JPG|thumb|right|A wild [[Barb|Snorlax]] in repose.]]
A Snorlax briefly appeared in Christian's "Backyard Safari" [[Sub-Episode]], a documentary about [[Jerkops]] designed specifically to insult them. He comments at one point that a [[Jerkhief]] weighs [[Obesity|over 1,500 pounds]] (681 kg) and can be identified by its [[Creepy stare|glassy eyes]] and wooden badge. [[Obesity|How ironic]] for Chris to be saying such things about Jerkops.

The Snorlax appears at the bottom of the page as an illustration, since Christian had commented in a paragraph that the Jerkhief was heavier than a Snorlax.

Snorlax is also infamously an affectionate name coined by trolls towards [[Barb]].

====[[Wikipedia:Jigglypuff|Jigglypuff]]====
Served as inspiration for [[Jiggliami]], an "original" character created by [[Blanca]]. Appeared in [[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]] and [[Sonichu 8|#8]]. A Jigglypuff also apparently made out with the Pikachu who would later evolve into Sonichu, and it's implied that this Jigglypuff and Jiggliami are one and the same.<ref name="Son cpedia" />

====Miscellaneous water Pokémon====

The Pokémon [[Yawning Squirtle|Squirtle]], [[Wikipedia:Mudkip|Mudkip]], [[Wikipedia:Seadra|Seadra]], [[Wikipedia:Goldeen|Goldeen]], [[Wikipedia:Staryu|Staryu]], [[Wikipedia:Corsola|Corsola]], [[Wikipedia:Octillery|Octillery]], [[Wikipedia:Mantine|Mantine]], and [[Wikipedia:Corphish|Corphish]] all appeared in the underwater scene on page 59 of [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]].

====[[Wikipedia:Flaaffy|Flaaffy]]====
Appears as [[Layla Flaaffy]] in [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]].<ref name="Sonichu9Page7">[[Sonichu 9]], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/8/87/SchuComic9P7.jpg page 7]</ref> It should be noted that Layla was not intended at all to be a Pokémon by her [[Ivy|creator]]; Chris merely decided her to be one after she was brought by him into the comics.<ref>[[Ivy Q&A#Layla and Punchy]]</ref> This explains why she looks nothing like a Flaaffy.

====[[Wikipedia:Sneasel|Sneasel]]====
Appears as [[Reginald Sneasel]] in [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]].<ref name="Sonichu9Page7" />

====[[Wikipedia:Tauros|Tauros]]====

During the Dating Ed Episode Reginald tries to drive a wedge between Punchy and Layla by claiming that Layla is a lesbian, averse to the color red and that her father is a Tauros.<ref name="Sonichu9Page15">[[Sonichu 9]], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/d/de/SchuComic9P15.jpg Page 15]</ref> In the next page we are told that Punchy had checked those rumors, most of which "were verified false."<ref name="Sonichu9Page16">[[Sonichu 9]], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/7/77/SchuComic9P16.jpg Page 16]</ref> This indicates that, since she neither hates red nor is a lesbian, her father must have been a Tauros.

====[[Wikipedia:Nidoking|Nidoking]]====
Used by Naitsirhc to battle [[Bionic]] in [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]].<ref name="Sonichu9Page85">[[Sonichu 9]], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/0/07/SchuComic9P85.jpg page 85]</ref>

====[[Wikipedia:Ditto (Pokémon)|Ditto]]====
After entering the [[Asperchu]] universe in [[Sonichu 10]], [[Ultra Sonichu]] learns from its inhabitants that all the [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] in the Asperchu comics are descended from [[Alec Benson Leary]]'s Ditto and a single Sonichu.<ref name="Sonichu10Page57">[[Sonichu 10]], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/2/2d/SchuComic10P57.jpg page 57]</ref>

====[[Wikipedia:Voltorb|Voltorb]]====
Used by Alec Benson Leary to murder [[Simonla Rosechu]] via Explosion in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]].

====[[Wikipedia:Sandslash|Sandslash]]====
[[Simonla]] was raised by two Sandslashes after the egg from which she hatched landed in their cave.<ref name="Simon cpedia">[[CWCipedia]] on [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Simonla_Rosechu Simonla]</ref><ref name="Sonichu10Page67">[[Sonichu 10]], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/c/c0/SchuComic10P67.jpg page 67]</ref> After Simonla's death, the two Sandslashes are said by [[Magi-Chan]] to have become involved in their granddaughter [[Sandy]]'s training; the Sandslash seen with Sandy in Sonichu 10 is probably one of them.<ref name="Sonichu10Page86">[[Sonichu 10]], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/c/cd/SchuComic10P86.jpg page 86]</ref>

====[[Wikipedia:Blaziken|Blaziken]]====

A Blaziken called Inuyasha is mentioned on the CWCipedia as one of the Pokémon in Chris's possession. It was used by Chris in his battles as a Gym Leader against [[Naitsirch]] and [[Kel]].<ref name="Son cpedia" /><ref name="Ros cpedia">[[CWCipedia]] on [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Rosechu Rosechu]</ref> It might also be the same Blaziken seen training with [[Sandy]] in [[Sonichu 10]].<ref name="Sonichu10Page86">[[Sonichu 10]], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/c/cd/SchuComic10P86.jpg page 86]</ref>

[[Marvey Blaziken]] is apparently also a Blaziken, despite looking nothing like one and having the ability to talk.

====[[Wikipedia:Meowth|Meowth]]====

A female Meowth called Lilith acts as [[Ivy]]'s bridesmaid in the [[Wedding Comic]].<ref>[[Wedding Comic|Sonichu Special 2]], [[:File:SchuComicSP2P3.jpg|Page 3]]</ref> Her creator is listed by Chris as "Sen-Chan", who would, later on, be revealed as a friend of Ivy in [[KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special#Part 6: #3|KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special]] when Chris dedicated to her a video featuring a drawing of Lilith (which was probably made by Sen-Chan herself). This drawing would be featured once more in the [[Good Fan Art]] gallery Chris uploaded to the CWCipedia.

===Pokémon not appearing within the comics===

Being an avant-garde writer with little regard to outdated conventions, Chris ignores the idea of "show don't tell" and often introduces entire plots and characters in his writings rather than in his drawings. Some of the Pokémon who have been revealed in this manner to have participated in the plot of Sonichu include:

*[[Wikipedia:Arceus|Arceus]] - in the Pokémon series, Arceus is believed to have possibly created the entire Pokémon universe. In [[Sonichu 15|''Sonichu'' #15]], a character says "For the love of Arceus!" In a 2018 tweet, Chris said "I met Arceus; he prefers the pronunciation Ar-see-us, and he is a good Pokémon, and deity, to work and be friends with too." Chris claimed in 2022 that "Arceus, the First, Main one, was manifested from a piece of" [[Emanuel]], Chris' bizarre conception of God(dess).<ref>[[Jail Letter - 11 January 2022]]</ref>
*[[Wikipedia:Chansey|Chansey]]/[[Wikipedia:Blissey|Blissey]] - [[Kel]] is mentioned on the CWCipedia as having caught a Chansey during the beginning of her career as a Pokémon trainer.<ref name="Ros cpedia" /> It most likely evolved into Kel's Pokémon Stephanie the Blissey.<ref name="Son cpedia" /><ref name="Ros cpedia" />
*[[Wikipedia:Charmander|Charmander]] - Sonichu's CWCipedia biography implies that after he transformed, Pokémon trainers caught his Pikachu parents by using a Sandshrew and a Charmander against them.<ref name="Son cpedia" />
*[[Wikipedia:Dratini|Dratini]] - [[Kel]] is mentioned on the CWCipedia as having caught a Dratini during the beginning of her career as a Pokémon trainer.<ref name="Ros cpedia" /> It most likely evolved into [[Pokémon#David the Dragonite/Daisy the Dragonite|David the Dragonite/Daisy the Dragonite]].
*[[Wikipedia:Gardevoir|Gardevoir]] - A Gardevoir called Vanessa is mentioned on the CWCipedia as one of the Pokémon in Chris's possession. It was used by Chris in his battles as a Gym Leader against [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc|Naitsirhc]] and [[Kel]].<ref name="Son cpedia" /><ref name="Ros cpedia">[[CWCipedia]] on [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Rosechu Rosechu]</ref>
*[[Wikipedia:Geodude, Graveler, and Golem|Geodude/Golem]] - [[Kel]] is mentioned on the CWCipedia as having caught a Geodude during the beginning of her career as a Pokémon trainer.<ref name="Ros cpedia" /> It most likely evolved into Kel's Pokémon Lauren the Golem.<ref name="Son cpedia" /><ref name="Ros cpedia" />
*[[Wikipedia:Gyarados|Gyarados]] - A species whose members are mentioned as having threatened the Pichu who would become Rosechu from time to time.<ref name="Ros cpedia" /> According to the CWCipedia a [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Red_Gyarados Red Gyarados] called Shred is one of the Pokémon in [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc|Naitsirhc]]'s possession.<ref name="Son cpedia" />
*[[Wikipedia:Ho-Oh|Ho-Oh]] - Mentioned on the CWCipedia as one of the Pokémon in [[Naitsirhc]]'s possession.<ref name="Son cpedia" />
*[[Wikipedia:Jolteon|Jolteon]] - According to the Rosechu's CWCipedia article, a Jolteon named Sparks was a part of Chris's Pokémon team during his battle with Kel.<ref name="Ros cpedia" /> On Sonichu's CWCipedia article, on the other hand, Sonichu is the sixth member of Chris's team during said battle while Sparks is nowhere mentioned.<ref name="Son cpedia" /> It should be noted that the first [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu&diff=4242&oldid=4241 revision of the article on Sonichu mentioning the battle] was written on [[August 2009]], while the article on Rosechu was written on [[February 2010]]; the inconsistency between the two versions of the story is probably due to one of them being written long after the other.
*[[Wikipedia:Lapras|Lapras]] - [[Kel]] is mentioned on the CWCipedia as having caught a Lapras during the beginning of her career as a Pokémon trainer, which she named Tiffany.<ref name="Ros cpedia" /><ref name="Son cpedia" />
*[[Wikipedia:Lopunny|Lopunny]] - father of Sarahchu, an OC created by [[Sarah and Steve]] and added to [[Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder]].
*[[Wikipedia:Luxray|Luxray]] - While he made no appearances in the comics, the CWCipedia states that Rosechu was fathered by a male Luxray and a female Raichu.<ref name="Ros cpedia" /> The Luxray's main role in young Rosechu's life appears to have been defending her from enemy Pokémon and teaching her how to do so. In 1996 the Luxray became sick and his Raichu wife decided to stay by his bedside rather than look out for their daughter, giving Pokémon trainers the perfect opportunity to capture her. The Luxray quickly gave up on finding his daughter, who doesn't seem to have given much of a fuck about this whole thing either.
*[[Wikipedia:Pichu|Pichu]] - Does not appear in the comics but was obviously Sonichu's and Roeschu's first form. According to the [[CWCipedia]], the Pokémon who would become Sonichu was a Pichu from 1988 until 1994.<ref name="Son cpedia">[[CWCipedia]] on [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu Sonichu]</ref> Rosechu CWCipedia article states that she was still a Pichu when captured in 1996 and already a Raichu in 1998, the year in which she became Rosechu;<ref name="Ros cpedia">[[CWCipedia]] on [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Rosechu Rosechu]</ref> it can, therefore, be inferred that she evolved into a Pikachu somewhere in between those times.
*[[Wikipedia:Porygon|Porygon]]/[[Wikipedia:Porygon2|Porygon2]]/[[Wikipedia:Porygon-Z|Porygon-Z]] - Chris, as part of his role as the CWCville gym leader, owns several of these Pokémon.<ref name="Son cpedia" /> In [[Sonichu 8]], Wild mentions in a thought bubble that he learned Conversion from a passing Porygon, allowing him to turn invisible.
*[[Wikipedia:Ponyta and Rapidash|Ponyta/Rapidash]] - [[Kel]] is mentioned on the CWCipedia as having caught a Ponyta during the beginning of her career as a Pokémon trainer.<ref name="Ros cpedia" /> It most likely evolved into Kel's Pokémon Ashley the Rapidash.<ref name="Son cpedia" /><ref name="Ros cpedia" />
*[[Wikipedia:Salamence|Salamence]] - A Salamence called Bagoner is mentioned on the CWCipedia as one of the Pokémon in Chris's possession. It was used by Chris in his battles as a Gym Leader against [[Naitsirch]] and [[Kel]].<ref name="Son cpedia" /><ref name="Ros cpedia">[[CWCipedia]] on [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Rosechu Rosechu]</ref>
*[[Wikipedia:Sandshrew|Sandshrew]] - Sonichu's CWCipedia biography implies that after he transformed Pokémon trainers caught his Pikachu parents by using a Charmander and a Sandshrew against them.<ref name="Son cpedia" />
*[[Wikipedia:Sceptile|Sceptile]] - A Sceptile called Christina is mentioned on the CWCipedia as one of the Pokémon in Chris's possession. It was used by Chris in his battles as a Gym Leader against [[Naitsirch]] and [[Kel]].<ref name="Son cpedia" /><ref name="Ros cpedia">[[CWCipedia]] on [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Rosechu Rosechu]</ref>
*[[Wikipedia:Tyranitar|Tyranitar]] - A Tyranitar named Dark Bite is mentioned on the CWCipedia as one of the Pokémon in [[Naitsirhc]]'s possession.<ref name="Son cpedia" />
*[[Wikipedia:List of Pokémon (252–319)#Vigoroth|Vigoroth]] - A species whose members are mentioned as having threatened the Pichu who would become Rosechu from time to time.<ref name="Ros cpedia" />
*[[Wikipedia:List of Pokémon (320–386)#Zangoose|Zangoose]] - A Pokémon trainer working for Professor Oak utilized a Zangoose to capture the Pichu who would become Rosechu.<ref name="Ros cpedia" />

==Plagiarism in ''Sonichu''==
Despite the fact that Chris primarily uses Pokémon in his series, not only is he not above using the characters, he's also not above using various ''ideas'' from the series. Amongst those include:

*In [[Sonichu 3|''Sonichu'' #3]], [[Flame the Sunbird]] says that he "[could] use pants."<ref name="Sonichu3Page14">[[Sonichu 3]], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/3/37/SchuComic3P14.jpg page 14]</ref> This is ripped off from [[Wikipedia:Pokémon: The Movie 2000|''Pokémon: The Movie 2000'']] when the Pokémon [[wikipedia:Slowking|Slowking]], freezing due to the weather changes, wishes for a pair to keep himself warm.
* Despite "not being a Pokémon,"<ref name="Sonichu3Page13">[[Sonichu 3]], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/2/2a/SchuComic3P13.jpg page 13]</ref> Flame uses Pokémon attack [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Drill_Peck_%28move%29 Drill Peck] in his one notable appearance.<ref name="Sonichu3Page16">[[Sonichu 3]], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/d/de/SchuComic3P16.jpg page 16]</ref> Speculation abounds, but it could be that Chris assumes that "Pokémon rules" apply to all intelligent mystical animals the way anyone with a guitar can pull off solo specials from ''[[Brutal Legend]]''.
* In [[Sonichu Special 4|''Sonichu Special'' #4]], [[Kacey]]'s sister wears similar clothes to those of [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Candice Candice], one of the 4th Generation gym leaders.
* In the biography for [[Rosechu]], it is mentioned that [[Kel]] ended up getting the Pichu who'd become Rosechu because she missed out on getting Bulbasaur, Charmander, and Squirtle.<ref name="Ros cpedia">[[CWCipedia]] on [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Rosechu Rosechu]</ref> This is a ripoff of how Ash Ketchum got Pikachu, except for the fact that Ash and Pikachu didn't hit it off until Pikachu saw how far Ash would go to protect it.
* In [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]], Sonichu inexplicably knows [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Iron_Tail_%28move%29 Iron Tail], a Steel-type attack, for use on the Rock/Ground-type Liquid (Steel is super effective against Rock).<ref name="Sonichu9Page80">[[Sonichu 9]], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/6/67/SchuComic9P80.jpg page 80]</ref> This is stolen, again, from Pikachu, who learned the same move so the writers could let Ash battle Roxanne (and other Rock-types) without breaking the rules of the game. The difference is that leading up to the battle, an episode was spent to show Pikachu learning the move. It is to be noted that in the video games, Pikachu is able to learn this move through the use of an item.
* Human characters from the Pokémon franchise have also been plagiarized into Sonichu. The most prominent example is [[Giovanni]], the leader of Team Rocket who serves as the main villain in ''[[Sonichu 1|Sonichu #1]]'' and also makes brief appearances in ''[[Sonichu 3|Sonichu #3]]'' and ''[[Sonichu 9|Sonichu #9]]''. [[Wikipedia:Professor Oak|Professor Oak]] is also mentioned both within the comic<ref name="Sonichu1Page7">[[Sonichu 1]], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/b/b1/SchuComic1P7.jpg page 7]</ref> and on the CWCipedia<ref name="Ros cpedia" /><ref name="Son cpedia" /> though he is never actually seen.

==Memory Cards==
Chris meticulously saved and cataloged at least 15 Pokemon cards he dubbed "Memory Cards". They are scattered throughout his collection. They can be identified by a crudely drawn star taped to the upper right corner of the outside of a card sleeve. Behind the card is the same card stock with the custom [[CWC]] back that he used to print his card from the [[Wall of Originals]]. On which he titled the card, gave a brief reason why the card means so much to him, and numbered the card for the set. The spelling, grammar and handwriting would suggest these are very early editions to his collection. The oldest memory card is dated to [[Twin Falling Towers|September 11, 2001]]. It to fair to assume these cards are older than that if numbered by date of acquisition.

<gallery><center>
File:Wiki Memory Card 2.jpg|Memory card 2 in sleeve
File:Memory-card-2.jpg|Memory card 2 out of sleeve
File:Wiki Memory Card 2 back.jpg|Memory card 2 back
File:Wiki Memory Card -15 - 1.jpg|Memory card 15 in sleeve
File:Memory-card-15-2.jpg ‎|Memory card 15 out of sleeve
File:Memory-card-15-3.jpg ‎|Memory card 15 back
</center></gallery>

==See also==
* [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]]
* [[Card_games#Pok.C3.A9mon_TCG|''Pokémon TCG'']]
* [[CWC's Pokésite 1]]
* [[CWC's Pokésite 2]]
* [[Pokéwalker of Fail]]
* [[Pokémon GO]]

== Sources ==
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Naught

2023-08-03T15:48:23Z

Lilacraven: spelling issue

{{incomplete|[[The Lainchu Manifesto]]}}
{{Unreliable|type=cred|Naught is a habitual liar and gives contradictory statements.{{refn|group="note"|Falsely claimed [[Watchmen]] members were appointed by the [[Guard Dogs]] group, a claim that Marvin, a former Guard Dog, disagreed with. Initially denied, then admitted to, doxing [[The WCT]]. Naught had also claimed to promise to Null to stop making sockpuppets to like his own posts, which he did anyway, leading to his main account getting banned.}}|Naught is noted for having delusions of grandeur.<ref group=note>On one ocassion, Naught threatened a member of [[Midnight Moonflower]]'s Discord Server that she'd be doxed, proclaiming that he "curbs weens and alogs".</ref>|Naught will often put his own spin on events that happened, embellish them, or try to demonize people he's interacted with, sometimes leaving out important context.{{refn|group="note"|Omitted key context from his leak of [[Taser Discussion]]. He also used a [[:File:PraetorSample.jpg|cropped out]] "you may also like" portion of an Etsy sale for a Sonichu medallion, claiming it to be on the Praetor etsy page.}}|Naught appears to take advantage of his presumed allies, encourages infighting between them, and throws them under the bus when it is most convenient for him.<ref group = note>Has attempted to use at least two of his associate's Kiwi Farms accounts, and doxed the WCT after they declined him using it. The dox would lead to significant infighting between him and Naught.</ref>}}
{{Unreliable|type=sock}}

{{quote|I'm up to 22 ,|Naught recounting how many sockpuppets he used on Kiwi Farms<ref name=twentytwo>[[:File:TwentyTwoSocks.JPG]]</ref>}}

{{quote|You brought so much fucking joy to this world and you continue to do so. That's why [...] you need to remain safe.|Naught on why he 'protects' Chris.<ref>[[CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)]]</ref>}}

{{quote|Naught is the same name as a mega asshole on the kiwi farms. I don't know if he's the same person. Does he use an anime avatar?

Mentally ill anime people.

Don't give them access to anything private|[[Null]] on Naught<ref>[[Null DMs#Watchmen drama]]</ref>}}

{{Infobox Person
|name = Naught
|aliases = Bismuth Bis CPU Bismuth Heart nitto nanashi . ❤️ heart<ref group=note>A nickname given to Naught, alluding to him using a heart emoticon as his username in the CWCki Discord Server</ref> tabula rasa<ref>[[:File:Naught-CWC-7Sept20 - Handle shipments6.jpg]]</ref> anameisaname death of chans Nightmare .moe Toad WCT Hate<ref name = "naughtthread"></ref> [[User:Ihasnoname|Ihasnoname]] noot snafu zilch atomized -<ref>In [[The Place chats - Psychic Detective]], Chris chats with - and calls him by his Bismuth alias.</ref> ภคยﻮђՇ<ref>[[Naught DMs#Fulfill the orders]]</ref> W.T.snacks<ref name=wt>[https://www.onionfarms.com/attachments/halal-server-zip.10884/ Zip file of Halal Server leaks hosted at Onion Farms] See "Halal - Watchmen - silvia-spunk-emily-spruill-silverangel [873480191501017089" channel at 07-Aug-21 07:43 AM timestamp</ref> Archivist NEET Samurai ladmin
|image = Naught.jpg
|size = 250
|gender = Male
|nationality = American
|race = Mixed (White/Asian)
|organization = [[Watchmen]]
|knownfor = • Being the self-proclaimed leader of the Watchmen • Being the original [[Lainchu]] • Inviting Chris into the Discord Server for the CWCki • Providing numerous Chris related leaks on the CWCki server • Spreading rumors about various Chris orbiters, including members in his own group
|saga = {{saga|shipfic|cn}}, {{saga|watchmen|cn}}, {{saga|praetor|cn}}
|occupation = Self-proclaimed Leader of the Watchmen (former) Owner of the The Place server Administrator of the Onion Farms
|}}

'''Naught''', also known as '''Bismuth''', and plenty of other pseudonyms, was one of the most prominent members of the Watchmen, its self-proclaimed leader, as well as one of the owners of The Place server. Naught monitored and doxed and/or threatened to dox potential weens or outside enablers, and has kept records on Chris's [[TSSSF]] cards and his comics.

Naught went by many usernames - he used "Bismuth" and '''CPU Bismuth Heart''' to Chris and used multiple aliases in public postings. While he was in the CWCki Discord server, he often used an emoticon of a heart. For the [[Kiwi Farms]], he went by names/accounts including "'''anameisaname'''", "'''death of chans'''", "'''Nightmare'''".<ref name=naughtthread>[https://www.lolcow.org/threads/naught-bismuth-anameisaname-anon-llc-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-tardwarsllc-cpu-bismuth-heart-ctrl-moe.724/ OP of Naught's lolcow.org thread] ([https://archive.fo/G30td archive])</ref>, and "'''.moe'''".<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/halal-private-channels-halal-general-873250859369250879-html.2444981/ A Kiwi Farms link to a private channel in the Halal Server, See 06-Aug-21 2:10 PM timestamp]</ref> Naught claims to have used at least 22 sockpuppet accounts on Kiwi Farms alone.<ref name=twentytwo></ref>

When Chris had discussed with Naught and other members of [[The Place]] about planning to use one of [[Praetor]]'s [[taser]]s to tase his quartz crystals, Naught, along with MKRNightVee, The WCT, and Kyle, confronted [[Caden Peck]]. Naught and MKRNightVee created and pushed rumors that Praetor members wanted to get Chris to tase himself, leaked bits of chats out-of-context regarding the issue to frame Praetor, and even doxed Caden. All of this upset Chris and resulted in him calling The Place members out for it.

Chris had finallly cut contact with Naught in June 2021 citing Naught's toxic behavior in doxing fellow Watchman The WCT, and the WCT had convinced him to cut ties with Naught, along with MKR and Kyle.<ref>[[June 2021 Watchmen calls]]</ref><ref>[[MKR DMs#On Chris leaving The Place]]</ref> Naught would eventually publicly admit he had done because WCT had declined to share his [[Kiwi Farms]] account with him after being banned on Kiwi Farms.<ref name=doxadmit>[[:File:Naught on WCT dox.png]]</ref><ref name=naughtedit>[https://archive.ph/wip/9215A Archive of the edit]</ref>

Naught was previously banned from the forum for use of multiple sockpuppet accounts, advertising, and liking his own posts with sock accounts, and giving negative ratings to accounts that disagreed with them. According to [[Null]], he had told Naught to stop these practices. He would still continue to do them after claiming to agree to Null's request, which had led to his main account being banned as well.<ref>[[:File:NaughtSocks.JPG]]</ref> Naught continues to create socks on the website, despite the socks getting banned.

Naught, having been a frequent user of the website, is also an admin of [[Kenneth Engelhardt]]'s lolcow forum Onion Farms. There, Naught has gone under several different names, including (but not limited to) '''nitto''', '''zilch''', '''atomized''', '''Archivist''', and '''NEET samurai'''.

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==Trolling Years==

According to a thread on Naught co-created by [[The WCT]] and another member on the Kiwi Farms splinter site lolcow.org, before becoming an ardent white knight of Chris's, Naught was initially one of Chris's lesser trolls. Naught was allegedly a lesser member of [[the Miscreants]], and it is believed that his voice could be faintly heard in the second half of [[Mumble 9]].<ref name=naughtthread></ref> The thread had also claimed that Naught had stated regret for trolling Chris in private, though the circumstances at which this happened and/or the private messages themselves are undisclosed, and had been a white knight of Chris's since the mid 2010s.

==Interactions with Chris==
[[File:CPUBismuthHeart.jpg|150px|thumb|left|Avatar of CPU Bismuth Heart.]]
Chris stated that Naught began interacting with him in late 2019 after approaching him when Chris was creating an expansion pack for lore provided to him by MKRNightVee and Jacob.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Nauht and Geno]]</ref> Naught would roleplay with Chris as the CPU Goddess, '''Vee''', '''CPU Bismuth Heart''', the CPU goddess of the children's educational game console, the V-Smile.

In most [[Naught DMs|conversations]] between Chris and Naught, Chris had spoken to him about his dreams and delusions. Chris has talked to Naught about all of the surreal dreams that he had all throughout the summer of 2020.<ref>[[Dreams#Summer 2020 dreams]]</ref> Naught had also shown Chris various anime and manga, much of which Chris had implemented in his fantasies.<ref>[[The Place chats - Infighting, Anime, and the Merge]]</ref> At one point, Naught had recommended the anime series ''Higurashi'' to Chris, believing that it would be of interest of him due to the show's use of time travel.

When Chris created a video where he [[Chris's Last Will and Testament|discusses plans to create a will]], Chris had shared the video with Naught in a Google Drive on 6 August 2020, and told him not to leak the video. After this, Naught was concerned about the morose implications of the video, and created a CWCki account, '''Ihasnoname''', where he created a page to leak the video on. Naught had also provided commentary and context on a number of transcribed DMs between him and Chris.

[[File:SonichuOrder.png|thumb|170px|An order from a customer, which Naught had posted on the Second Layer of The Place.]]

Chris, not wanting to deal with customers, had demanded Naught to keep track of orders made for his [[TSSSF]] cards and Sonichu comics.<ref name=TSSSF>[[Kiwi Farms posts (other users)#Orders From 2020]]</ref> In September 2020, Chris had sent the information of 23 of his paying customers when they bought merchandise from him after sending payment information to Naught, which contained the customer's name, address, phone number, and email. Naught then posted the orders including the doxes on the second layer of [[The Place]] server, where he had posted pdfs of the Sonichu comics up to [[Sonichu #13]] and a Google Drive of all of Chris's [[TSSSF]] cards.<ref name=TSSSF></ref>

[[File:NaughtGetsModded.jpg|thumb|left|A post reacting to Naught, along with Anaxis and Skunt_TV, becoming moderators on the CWCki server]]
Naught encouraged Chris to go onto the [[Official CWCki Server]] in [[August 2020]],<ref>[[Official CWCki Server chats (Naught)#Inviting Chris to Official CWCki Server]]</ref> roughly a month after the server's creation. On the server, Naught had also leaked a number of posts and photos he found onto the server, and had doxed several of its members,<ref>[[Official CWCki Server chats (Naught)]]</ref> including one of the server's mods.<ref>{{Cite farms|writer=naught|thread=75256|post=7186963}}</ref> Naught, who was nicknamed as "heart", was also promoted as a moderator on the server, along with the server members [[Anaxis]] and Skunt_TV.<ref>[[:File:NaughtGetsModded.jpg]]</ref>

Late in February 2021, Naught had discussed plans with [[MKRNightVee]] to get Chris to interact with the lolcow Alexander Gordon Jahans, whom both Naught and MKR had interest in, though no signs of them interacting ever came.<ref>[[The Place chats - Jahans discussion]]</ref>

Naught claimed to having been the original player of the [[Lainchu]] character,<ref name=NaughtLainchu></ref> and has hinted at getting Chris interested in the anime the character was based on, Serial Experiments Lain, in a private chat.<ref>[[The Place chats - Jahans discussion#18 March 2021, part 1]]</ref> However, Naught also claims that he passed off the role for "reasons he can't recall".<ref name=NaughtLainchu>[[The Place chats (March 2021)#Rejection of the Fourth Lainchu]]</ref>

Chris used [[Tarot]] readings to divine Naught's future in April 2021. Naught posted these tarot readings on Onion Farms.<ref>{{Cite onion|thread=2150}}</ref> In the divine readings, Chris declares that as leader Naught will likely speak up against others on certain topics. The end of the divine readings has Chris telling Naught to "embrace his weirdness".

==As a Watchman==

{{quote|i curb weens and alogs|Naught on his duties as a Watchman|<ref>[[Midnight Moonflower Discord chats#Watchmen Raid]]</ref>}}

[[File:Naught'sPowerFantasy.jpg|thumb|Naught threatening to "curb" a Discord user.]]

After [[Owls]] left the Chris scene, Naught would then become an admin of the Watchmen server The Place. Following from this, Naught would make use of a sockpuppet account on the Kiwi Farms, "anameisaname". Naught would also make use of [[Spunky]]'s Kiwi Farms account, "Thetarotreader96", repurposing it as "death of chans".<ref>https://www.lolcow.org/threads/naught-bismuth-anameisaname-anon-llc-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-tardwarsllc-cpu-bismuth-heart-ctrl-moe.724/post-16378 (archive: https://archive.ph/sHJsm)</ref>

Naught had created a Kiwi Farms thread for doxing Chris oribters, many of which were members of the CWCki's Discord Server, on 15 August 2020, which had led to him being banned from the server.<ref>{{Cite farms|thread=75256}}</ref>

===Midnight Moonflower===

When they have heard that Chris was a member of her server, Naught, along with several other Watchmen members had raided [[Midnight Moonflower]]'s Discord server to cut contacts between her and Chris, under the belief that she was a ween, and warning them that they may get doxed due to their association with Chris, while also telling them about his duty to "curb weens and alogs", and that they could potentially get a CWCki page or Kiwi Farms thread.<ref>[[Midnight Moonflower Discord chats#Watchmen Raids]]</ref>

===Conflicts with Praetor===

The earliest Chris has been known to discuss [[Praetor]] with Naught was on 14 October 2020, where he discusses their interpretation of his [[Disc Dream]], and mentions their plans of him doing a [[Goochland Library Sermon|sermon at the Goochland Public Library]]. Naught replied to the video plans with "Are you sure you're comfortable with doing a video? And was this cadens idea?". When Chris replies to being comfortable with doing the video, Naught had told Chris to be sure that doing so would be "mutually beneficial and reciprocal".<ref>[[Naught DMs#Praetor]]</ref>

On [[February 2021]], Chris had stated to [[Kyle]] that he wished to open an inter-dimensional portal by shocking his [[Gate Crystal]] and [[Celestial Key]]. Chris had decided that he could do this by asking Praetor for one of their tasers, and state the news to Naught.<ref>[[Naught DMs#Chris wants to activate the Merge by playing with taser]]</ref> Naught had then notified members of The Place about these plans, and gathered them up to confront the Praetors themselves.<ref>[[The Place chats - Watchmen-Praetor confrontations#5 February 2021]]</ref>

Afterwards, Naught posted Chris announcing this to him onto Kiwi Farms, while claiming that he was concerned that they were in on a "plot" involving [[Larry Vaughn]] which involves getting Chris to tase himself. In Naught's Kiwi Farms post, he alleged that "Caden and cwc as Sonichu prime discuss the tazer and who will be tazed",<ref>{{Cite farms|writer=naught|thread=84502|post=8301396}}</ref> omitting that Watchmen member Val had brought up the subject and that Caden had objected. The post had also included a [[Taser Discussion|voice chat]] which has been heavily edited to only include specific clips to frame Praetor members for this alleged plan.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Naught)#Taser Discusion clip]]</ref> In the clip, [[Val]] states, "Can you put, 'Can CWC- uh, like, tase himself on video for lulz'." Chris then responds, "I'll do it," to which Val bursts out laughing. [[Praetor]] member Caden then objects, saying, "Look, are you sure- There- they- like, we had a whole discussion about ''why'' it's a bad idea."

The Watchmen had then confronted Caden 3 days later, acussing him of wanting to get Chris to tase himself. Despite these allegations, Chris had tried to claim that obtaining a taser was his idea, and that he had requested people at Praetor to send one of their tasers to him. After this, Chris had chastised Naught and other Watchmen members for the way that they had treated Praetor.


===Doxing of The WCT===

{{quote|I doxed Sean since he asked me to use his Logan account on kiwi farms, and I said no.
Yet, when I was banned from kiwi farms he said no, so i doxed him it didn't help he kept blaming me for striking his video's as he worked with lolcow.org to make a thread on me.|An actual edit from Naught, admitting to have doxed The WCT.<ref name=naughtedit></ref>}}

After being banned from the Kiwi Farms for socking, Naught had asked The WCT to make use of his Logan account, which The WCT had declined in doing. Before this, The WCT had asked Naught to use his account, which he declined. Both of these followed in Naught obtaining WCT's dox from both lolcow.org and /cow/.<ref name=naughtedit></ref> In [[June 2021]], The WCT was doxed on Kiwi Farms by a Kiwi Farms account named Nightmare. An account on the Kiwi Farms splinter site lolcow.org had also joined under a VPN under the screen name '''"WCT Hate"''', whose sole purpose was to dox The WCT. Signs pointed to fellow Watchman and group leader Naught as the person behind both of the accounts.<ref name = naughtthread></ref> Though Naught initially denied being behind Nightmare, he later admitted to it.<ref name=naughtedit></ref>

When The WCT confronted Naught in a voice chat during the group’s movie night on 21 June, Naught denied the allegation, then threatened to further dox The WCT in an attempt to silence him. Kyle and MKRNightVee took Naught's side in the dispute.<ref>[[June 2021 Watchmen calls#Movie Night Confrontation]]</ref> From there, a conflict arose between Naught and The WCT.

Following a Lolcow.org thread on the ex-member of the group, an audio voice clip of Chris saying “Fuck Bismuth!”<ref>[[June 2021 Watchmen calls#Pre-Jail Interview]] ([https://www.lolcow.org/data/audio/7/7468-370ce5544aee794a8de75b3181dd6c0f.mp3 Clip form, hosted at lolcow.org])</ref> suggested that Chris sided against Naught in the dispute. The WCT had also encouraged Chris to cut ties with Naught, Kyle and MKR.

On 6 July 2021, The WCT's eponymous YouTube channel received a strike. He accused Naught of being behind the strike, both to Naught<ref name=naughtedit></ref> and to Chris.<ref name=cwcdmstrike>[[WCT DMs#Video Strikes]]</ref> WCT provided an image to Chris saying that Naught "basically admitted" to being behind the strike, although the image has been lost.<ref name=cwcdmstrike></ref> Naught has claimed that he believes WCT's accusations provide him justification for doxing him (even though the dox took place weeks prior).

On 20 July 2021, The WCT collaborated with [[Bella]] in an attempt to dox Naught back.<ref>[[Chess Group 15 Chats#Watchmen Treason]]</ref> The WCT was able to successfully dox Naught's mother with Bella's assitence. Naught had admitted to doxing The WCT on the [[Onion Farms]] on 30 August 2021,<ref>[[:File:Naught on WCT dox.png]]</ref> and again on 29 November 2021 via an edit on his page, providing details about the dox.

Following from the incest call being leaked, Naught had posted under the Kiwi Farms account '''.moe''', where he posted primarily in threads on Bella and her associates, as well as WCT's thread, where he doxed him further.<ref>{{Cite farms|writer=.moe|thread=97689|post=9716227}}</ref> Naught had also framed WCT as being a "simp" of Bella, on one ocassion comparing him to the active Chess Club member, Louis Herz.<ref>{{Cite farms|writer=.moe|thread=97621|post=9736618}}</ref>

==Involvement with Halal Server==
{{quote|Yeah, we dont want people to know we have Naught and MKR here|Halal Server member Sakura Blossom on concealing Naught's involvement in the server.<ref>[https://www.onionfarms.com/attachments/halal-server-zip.10884/ Zip file of Halal Server leaks hosted at Onion Farms]. See Halal - General - halal-general [873250859369250879].html at 10-Aug-21 04:46 PM timestamp</ref>}}

Naught was invited to the Halal Server, a Discord group for speculating about [[Bella]] and others who orbited Chris following the leak of the [[Incest Call]]. He used the pseudonym '''W.T.snacks''' while in the server.<ref name=wt></ref> One channel, called "naught-funposting", served as a spot for Naught to posts shitposts. Another channel, much like the one created for MKR, was also created so that Naught could provide notable screenshots and information.

MKR and Naught had primarly provided information on the channel "donotuse-old-landing-pad".

==Involvement with Onion Farms==

Naught and The WCT had frequented [[Kenneth Engelhardt]]'s website, Onion Farms, and Naught eventually became an admin of the website, which, according to Naught, was a result of the creation of the [[Watchmen]] article.<ref name=naughtthread></ref> Naught and WCT had livestreams with Kenneth and interview him about the ongoings with the website.

Naught had responded to some of Kenneth's posts regarding letters he received from Chris while he was in jail and posted on threads about Chris's orbiters. On 29 January 2022, Naught indicated some degree of willingness to regain contact with Chris, asking Kenneth to "Tell CWC I said hi" and adding that "CWC knows me as bismuth," to which Kengle gave an okay.<ref>https://www.onionfarms.com/threads/cwc-letter-january-29-2022-pissed-off-over-some-of-the-fan-art-she-has-two-mothers-buckle-up-its-a-wild-ride.2147/post-33036 / https://archive.ph/4uyxz</ref> Whether Naught or Kenneth moved ahead with the contact is unknown as Kenneth and Chris temporarily cut ties shortly afterwards.

On the Onion Farms, Naught had also created a number of threads on people associated with Chris, such as [[The WCT]] and [[Geno Samuel]].

==Interviews==
===Origins===
[[File:Marvin on conventions claim.png|thumb|200px|Guard Dog [[Marvin]] disagrees with a claim made by Naught.]]
The following is a conversation between a Christorian and Naught via Discord; the users are color-coded red and navy blue, respectively. The interview was originally placed on the Watchmen CWCki page but was later removed due to uncorroborated statements made by Naught<ref>https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Watchmen&type=revision&diff=252258&oldid=252227</ref> and is now archived on this page.

Naught claimed that some members of the Watchmen had been operating since [[2018]], as the spiritual successor to the [[Guard Dogs]] – the latter having disbanded around the same time frame. However, Naught's account was disputed by a member of the Guard Dogs.

Naught also claimed that Watchmen members [[MKRNightVee]] and [[AquaDiamond8]] were picked by [[Null]]. However, MKRNightVee got into contact with Chris through a friend looking up his phone number for her<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/discordgirl2-png.644832/</ref> and Aqua joined during the [[Sockness]] saga by which time Null had been distant from Chris.

{{quoteboxred|I had a question in my head, if its fine for me to ask, could you tell me how exactly you guys met CWC and when you formed the group}}

Naught quoted a now-deleted section from the [[Guard Dogs]] CWCki article:
{{quoteboxwhite|Following the incidents at TooManyGames, in which Chris was thrown out of the con for being too handsy with other attendees, Null and several other members of the Guard Dogs began investigating Justin Silverman's account of the situation, intending to find out if Justin had overreacted towards Chris's behaviour. Ultimately, this investigation petered out with no real progress having been made, save for the fact that the Guard Dogs elected people to supervise Chris at any conventions he visited from then on.}}

{{quoteboxred|Oh, so you guys were picked by Null}}

{{quoteboxnavy|Yeah that's why Marvin is there since the captain couldn't stick around but the plan is still the same}}

{{quoteboxred|Ah, so the captain was in there too but left after a while}}

{{quoteboxnavy|Yeah mkr helped get the cwc protect squad out of the way with the fan art for cwc}}

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===History===
On 4 [[September 2020]], a Christorian interviewed Naught through Discord, asking questions about the Watchmen. The interviewer's questions are color-coded red, with Naught's responses color-coded green.

The first four questions appear to be referring to the [[Arbitarch CWC Alliance]] server.

{{quoteboxred|Who started it and why?}}

{{quoteboxnavy|Owls the guy who set-up mkr and [[Joseph Draft]] got aqua and mkr to draw some art to lure cwc in.}}

{{quoteboxred|How did Chris join there?}}

{{quoteboxnavy|I was told it was going to be for Chris's patrons.}}

{{quoteboxred|Why was it killed?}}

{{quoteboxnavy|It was killed because owls and Joseph didn't know how to wrangle tards. Mkr aqua were being blamed for making it so I asked for a mod role kept asking for more perms and deleted all the channel's. I posted the rolling and trolling vid.}}

{{quoteboxred|Who killed it?}}

{{quoteboxnavy|I killed it, Joseph and Smokey Chris TheSperge were using the server to gather content, they convinced Joseph I was Johan.

After a 4 hour conversation I got Joseph draft to face dox himself once he destroyed his drive with chris vs the internet.}}

The last two appear to refer to the Watchmen as a group.

{{quoteboxred|Why did Aqua leave?}}

{{quoteboxnavy|Stress and people @ her on Twitter

Her and mkr are still frens}}

{{quoteboxred|Will this group be around forever?}}

{{quoteboxnavy|As long as Chris is in need or willing yes}}

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===Follow-up on Origins===
Afterwards, the CWCki Editor [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] asked Naught to clarify the Watchmen's origins. In a prior interview, Naught had claimed the Watchmen to have been working with the Guard Dogs to supervise Chris at conventions, however a Guard Dog disagreed with the claim. Naught blamed Watchmen founder [[Owls]], claiming the story was what he had been told by Owls.

{{quoteboxred|Are you the one the CWCki calls Naught?

Wanted to ask something clarifying the Watchmen origins if so. There's conflicting statements.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|Yes}}

{{quoteboxred|So you quoted the Guard Dogs article to explain the group origins - a section that said the Dogs elected people to supervise Chris at cons after the TMG disaster. But the editor who put that in since retracted it for lack of source and Marvin said there were no babysitters and that Chris was on his own.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|Yeah that's what owls/Ryan told me

He's no longer around he's ghostbird on the farm's}}

{{quoteboxred|Hmm. Interesting.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|That's why I'm around he wasn't reporting back to Marvin

There was something about the footage smokey chris and theSperge}}

{{quoteboxred|Owl's was the original person behind the group?}}

{{quoteboxnavy|He started [[The Place|the place]] server and was telling mkr and Marvin he was doing x y and z but wasn't}}

{{quoteboxred|Alright if I quote you on on the CWCki? Gonna try to fix up the Origins section.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|Ok

There was even a panel where he insisted his owl avatar in the comic}}

{{quoteboxred|MKR's?}}

{{quoteboxnavy|Yeah owls was the one making it canon mkr draws}}

{{quoteboxred|Alright, thanks for the info.}}

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==See also==
*[[Kiwi Farms posts (Naught)]]
*[[MKRNightVee]]
*[[Naught DMs]]
*[[Official CWCki Server chats (Naught)]]
*[[The Place chats - Jahans discussion]]

==External links==
*[https://kiwifarms.net/members/naught.30731/ Naught's Kiwi Farms profile]

==Notes==
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The WCT

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{{incomplete|[[The Lainchu Manifesto]]}}
{{Unreliable|type=misinfo|is being}}
{{Unreliable|type=cred|WCT is noted for being egotistical and having many delusions of grandeur.<ref group=note>WCT had often made comments about being "one of the final protagonists" of Christory, and has on some ocassions [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/sean-walker-psychic-espeon-wct.97689/page-21#post-9752790 compared himself to the Kiwi Farms owner, Null] or made comments about his influence and "power" on the CWCSphere.</ref>|WCT will often say edgy things for shock value.|WCT has made bold, accusatory claims without verifying them first.{{refn|group="note"|Attempted to throw [[Null]] under the bus by claiming that Null had been aware of Chris's [[Affair with Mother]] and did nothing to stop it.<ref>[[June 2021 Watchmen calls#Pre-Jail Interview]] at the 1:25:37 mark</ref> However, Null's DMs with Chris indicate Null was not aware.<ref>[[Null DMs]]</ref> When [[Bella]] gave WCT her [[fabricated BDSM texts]], he believed Bella when she claimed that [[the Suitress]] also had those; subsequently attempted to throw the Suitress under the bus by claiming her as the sole source for the text instead of naming Bella}}}}
{{Unreliable|type=sock}}

{{Infobox Person
|title = The WCT
|name = Sean Walker
|image = SeanWalker.png|imagesize= 200
|birthsrc =
|aliases = The Wildcat (WCT) Yosemite Cat Logan<ref>[https://archive.fo/1MuIB Archive of Logan Kiwi Farms profile]</ref> Neko / Neko Onyx<ref name=RSD>See Gallery section in [[Randy Stair discussion]]</ref> CPU Onyx Heart<ref>[[:File:Cpu onyx heart-min.jpg]]</ref> Mage Leo Azul<ref name=EverfreeSecurity/> Psychic Espeon<ref name=WCTEspeon>{{cite farms|thread=31437|title=Randy Stair / Andrew Blaze / PioneersProductions & Ember's Ghost Squad (EGS)|post=7364906}} Psychic Espeon's former Kiwi Farms username was The WCT.</ref> Kat<ref name=RSD></ref> BrownHairedDragon<ref name="BrownHairedDragon"/> Conner<ref name=conner>[[The Knights of CWC chats (July 2021)#Bella enters Knights of CWC server]]</ref> currentlyinexile Chairmen Miaozer TheGhost
|gender = Male<ref name="WCTWiki"/>
|race = White
|knownfor =• Helping Chris record an audio clip telling Sockness to stay away • Convincing Chris to cut ties with [[The Place]] Discord server and three of its members, and having private conversations with him. • Enabling delusions of Chris's regarding [[Randy Stair]] • Creating the Knights of CWC server • Being the tentative fourth [[Lainchu]], only to then be rejected by Chris • Hosting the [[Regarding Chris]] group chat to question [[Bella]].
|nationality = American
|occupation = Founder and leader of Knights of CWC Amatuer Documentarian
|saga = {{saga|jacob|cn}}, {{saga|watchmen|cn}}, {{saga|praetor|cn}}, {{saga|incest|cn}}
}}

{{quote|As powerful as I’ve recently became lately, it’s also best to keep myself in check.

Or else, I’ll end up using said powers for evil like [[Naught|Bismuth]].|WCT, talking about his 'power' in the 'CWCsphere'}}

{{quote|With Andrew and Ember's help, I will defeat Bismuth for good. And to ensure that he doesnt hurt another innocent again|WCT relaying [[Randy Stair]] lore to Chris, saying that him and a [[Wikipedia:Danny Phantom|Danny Phanthom]] character will help defeat [[Naught]]<ref>[[:File:Wctroleplaysstair.jpg]]</ref>}}

{{quote|You're lower than scum, you know that?

[[MKR]] was fucking right about you. You are just a clout chasing YouTuber.

You can go to hell.|[[Anaxis]], one of WCT's best friends after the [[Incest Call|incest leaks]]<ref>[[:File:Anaxiswctdms.png]]</ref>}}

'''Sean Walker''', more commonly known as '''The Wildcat (WCT)''' and '''CPU Onyx Heart''', also known as '''Psychic Espeon''', '''Neko Onyx''', and plenty of other pseudonyms, is a former [[Watchmen]] member and amateur documentarian who made documentaries on dark or edgy topics.<ref>{{Cite farms|writer=Caeser|thread=97689|post=9725741}}</ref> He is self-described as "one of the most powerful people in the CWC sphere."<ref name='finalprotagonist'>{{Cite farms|thread=97689|post=9742266|title=Discord screenshots of WCT declaring himself as "one of the final protagonists"}}</ref> He boasted that he was proud about his eventual feature in [[Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History|Geno Samuel's documentary series]], claiming himself as "one of the final protagonists."<ref name='finalprotagonist'/> He has also made a few comments where he had compared himself to [[Null]],<ref>{{Cite farms|thread=97689|post=9752790}}</ref> or brought up his supposed influence on the CWCSphere. The WCT even had one of his pseudonyms being "'''Conner'''",<ref name=conner></ref> Josh's middle name.

WCT had a conflict with [[Naught]], [[Kyle]] and [[MKR]] - in which Naught had doxed WCT on Kiwi Farms for declining to share his Kiwi Farms account<ref name=naughtedit>[https://archive.ph/wip/9215A Archive of Naught's CWCki edit]</ref> and Kyle and MKR had refused to believe Naught had done so.<ref name=watchmencall></ref> WCT created another Discord group, [[The Knights of CWC]], modelling it after the previous Watchmen group run by Naught and Kyle, [[The Place]].

As a Watchman, WCT was concerned with protecting Chris from malicious individuals. In 2019, he was involved with [[Chris Releases A Statement Regarding Jacob Sockness]], an audio recording Chris released to Twitter in order to discourage [[Jacob Sockness]] from coming to his house. Two years later, WCT would again try to intervene against Sockness's plan to meet Chris at [[Everfree Northwest]],<ref name=EverfreeSecurity>[[WCT DMs#Everfree security]]</ref> though Chris's arrest for [[Affair with Mother|incest]] would cause him to miss the convention.

Some of WCT's actions garnered controversy. He, like several other Watchmen, were enablers to Chris's delusions as they would play along with his fantasies. In WCT's case, he played along with Chris's fantasies over the shooter [[Randy Stair]], who was a subject of a documentary series of WCT's own, being a guardian figure.

After being doxed by Naught, The WCT had collaborated with [[Isabella Janke]] to dox Naught back. During the wake of the [[Affair with Mother|incest]] scandal, WCT questioned Bella about her involvement in the [[Incest call]]; he was then tricked by her into believing her [[fabricated BDSM texts]] were real and that [[the Suitress]] also had them in her possession, and he then spread the texts onto the [[Kiwi Farms]] while claiming the Suitress as his sole source and partially revealing her identity as well. In addition, WCT's former associate, [[MKRNightVee]], spread a rumor about him that he "probably wants Chris to kill himself"<ref name=mkrrumor>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410103600932548609 (archive: https://archive.md/UKGom)</ref> in retaliation for WCT convincing Chris to leave [[The Place|her group's Discord server]]. These actions and circumstances would result in him receiving considerable flak, ultimately causing him to retreat from the internet and go in hiding.

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==As a Watchman==
[[File:WCTYoutubeIcon.png|thumb|WCT's icon used for his YouTube channel. This was the icon most associated with him.]]
===Becoming a Watchman===

WCT, an amatuer documentarian, was fascinated by GenoSamuel's ''[[Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History]]'' series in early to mid-2018, and archived the series on his YouTube channel The WCT when the original ''History'' was terminated by YouTube.<ref name="WCTWiki"/>

According to Naught, WCT joined the [[Discord#CWC Rebellion|CWC Rebellion server]], where he made friends with a user named "Smoky Chris" and that the aspiring documentarians met in GenoSamuel's Discord server some time in 2019.<ref name=naughtclaimbg>[https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Sean_Walker&type=revision&diff=273050&oldid=273047 CWCki edit by Naught] (archive: https://archive.ph/fVnw7)</ref> Naught also claimed to have met WCT in the GenoSamuel server when Naught also hung out with Joseph Draft, director of [[Chris Chan VS. The Internet|CWC vs the world]] and that the two were both early Watchmen.<ref name=naughtclaimbg></ref>

[[File:The WCT avatar.png|thumb|left|150px|The avatar MKRNightVee drew for The WCT]]
He later joined the Watchmen, where he mainly archived calls involving Chris while maintaining a YouTube channel that posted Chris-centric content which has since been privated. In February 2021, he attempted to become the fourth person behind the role of '[[Lainchu]],' an OC created by the Watchmen, but was rejected by Chris, who still preferred his predecessor.<ref name=lainchu>[[The Place chats (March 2021)#Rejection of the Fourth Lainchu]]</ref>

===Internal conflicts===
On Christmas Eve of 2020, Chris had mentioned concerns about The WCT being banned from [[The Place]], alledging that it was due to political jokes he made.<ref>[[The Place chats - Infighting, Anime, and the Merge]]</ref> Kyle replies that he is unsure about unbanning him, and complains about The WCT "leaking" information. When Chris responds that WCT hadn't been leaking anything, Naught and Kyle respond that he doesn't leak on purpose, with Naught claiming that WCT had hinted at the existence of The Place server.

WCT was doxed on /cow/ in 2019, and on lolcow farm. Early in [[June 2021]], The WCT dox was reposted on Kiwi Farms by fellow Watchman and group leader Naught (also known as Bismuth).<ref name=naughtthread>[https://www.lolcow.org/threads/anameisaname-bismuth-anon-llc-naught-nitto-nanashi-death-of-chans-doppelganger-nightmare-tardwarsllc-heart-cpu-bismuth-heart.724/ Bismuth thread on lolcow.org] [https://archive.fo/G30td (archive)]</ref> When WCT confronted Naught in a voice chat, Naught denied the allegation, then threatened to further dox WCT in an attempt to silence him.<ref name=watchmencall>[[June 2021 Watchmen calls]]</ref> WCT explained the events to Chris himself, who believed The WCT's evidence and cut ties with Naught over it.<ref name=watchmencall></ref><ref name=wctinterview>[[The WCT#Interview|July 2021 interview]]</ref> Naught had eventually confirmed his doxing of WCT on 30 August 2021 in an Onion Farms message<ref name=doxadmit>[[:File:Naught on WCT dox.png]]</ref> and again on 29 November 2021 while editing his CWCki page.<ref>[https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Sean_Walker&diff=next&oldid=273048 Naught's edit]</ref> Naught had also stated in the edit that The WCT acussing him of sending strikes on his videos would futher justify decision to dox him. After receiving strikes for his videos, WCT would then create a new channel to host his content, "Yosemite Cat".<ref>[[WCT DMs#Video Strikes]]</ref>

Shortly after, WCT was banned from [[The Place]], the Watchmen's [[Discord]] server. In response, Chris left the server himself. In WCT's own words, "[Chris] saw my banning as a signal to him that my suspicions about Bismuth and the others were correct." The [[Praetor]] group, who had also been in the server, left it as well following Chris's departure.<ref name=watchmencall></ref><ref name=wctinterview></ref> WCT had claimed in a later post to an interviewee that he had decided to "take down the group" as a result of Naught doxing him, taking Chris with him in order to "punish" other members in the group.<ref>{{Cite farms|writer=TV's Adam West|thread=97689|post=9742586}}</ref>

[[MKR]] later jumped to several baseless conclusions over the matter and circulated several rumors. In late June she tagged Chris’s Twitter and posted, “Have fun getting fucked over by WCT and [[Praetor]].”<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1410076709148266498 (archive: https://archive.fo/zb0wM)</ref> accusing WCT of having sinister motives, including "probably [wanting] Chris to kill himself in a similar manner [to Randy Stair].<ref name=mkrrumor></ref>

WCT created a successor group and invited in Chris and several of the Watchmen who had been in The Place, titling his group [[Knights of CWC|The Knights of CWC]]. There, he served as the Watchmen's third leader, though he was also unsure of putting the group under the Watchmen moniker. As leader, WCT sought to take a less aggressive approach to other Chris orbiters than Naught had, stating to [[Helena]] that he would "[[Isabella Loretta Janke|give anybody who befriends Chris a chance]] until it becomes clear to me they have awful intentions."<ref>[[Helena-WCT DMs]]</ref>

WCT gave [[The WCT#Interview|an interview to the CWCki]] explaining his side of the story.

==Interactions with Chris==
{{Needs Updating|[[WCT DMs#Sockness alert]]}}
{{Main|WCT DMs}}

Following his break-up with other Watchmen members, WCT had a series of private conversations with Chris.

WCT was one of the people trying to discourage Chris from his plan to [[Taser Discussion|tase his magic stones to start the Dimensional Merge]]. He also expressed concern over Chris's mental health when Chris uploaded [[Direct Message to Hasbro: MLPG5 Is Cancelled.]], a video in which an upset Chris ranted about ''My Little Pony'', the background revealing several punched holes in the wall; WCT reached out to Chris to calm him down and asked Chris to talk things out instead of hurting himself. When asked by WCT what had happened to the wall, Chris claimed the damage had occurred in the past over trying to physically break the [[iron curtain]] between dimensions.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Upset at MLP G5]]</ref>

[[File:TarotDivinationWCT.jpg|thumb]]

Chris had provided a Tarot reading toward WCT.
===Randy Stair Delusions===
{{main|Randy Stair}}
WCT was a regular contributor to a wiki dedicated to the documentation of [[Randy Stair]], who infamously killed three people and then himself after losing his mind, having held his own obsession with Stair since at least [[July 2018]],<ref name="WCTWiki">[https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT?oldid=564 "The WCT" - EGS Reupload Wiki] [https://web.archive.org/web/20210811043202/https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT (archive)]</ref> according to a wiki page [[Ego|he made about himself]].<ref name=BrownHairedDragon>[https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT?action=history History of an EGS Wiki page about The WCT shows only one contributor, 'BrownHairedDragon'] [https://web.archive.org/web/20210913153431/https://the-egs-reupload.fandom.com/wiki/The_WCT?action=history (archive)]</ref>

WCT produced a YouTube documentary on Stair. In [[November 2020]], Chris found the documentary after looking through a playlist on The WCT's channel and took an interest in Stair's story, particularly the aspects involving Stair's belief in [[Chris and reality|fictional characters existing in an alternate dimension]].<ref name=discussion>[[Randy Stair discussion]]</ref>

Chris recorded an audio file to "help [Stair] get a post-death message out," giving the file to WCT.<ref name=discussion></ref>

In conversations with WCT, Chris occasionally role-played that Randy Stair was a guardian figure and WCT briefly played along.

On 13 July 2021, WCT tried to help Chris avoid [[Jacob Sockness]] at the upcoming [[Everfree Northwest]] convention by asking him to record another version of [[Chris Releases A Statement Regarding Jacob Sockness]]. During their discussion, Chris [[Coping|coped]] with the issue of Sockness by role-playing that Randy Stair would be defeating Sockness with WCT's help:<ref name=EverfreeSecurity></ref>

{{quotebox|speaker=Chris|Ember just came to me with a message in regard to Sockness.

Randy and the Ghost Squad are working to break through the horde of demons around his apartment building.

In the present energy shift, there is a potential boost going to Sockness. But there is a counter, and it involves you, Sean.}}

To which WCT, seemingly confusing Sockness for [[Naught]], replied:

{{quoteboxgreen|speaker=The WCT|With Andrew and Ember's help, I will defeat Bismuth for good. And to ensure that he doesn't hurt another innocent again.}}

===Everfree Northwest===

In [[July 2021]], [[Jacob Sockness]] declared that he had plans to attend [[Everfree Northwest]] in disguise to meet with Chris.<ref>{{Cite Reddit|subreddit=Kidasuna
|title= Going to Ever Free
|username=[[Jacob Sockness|luvshak214]]
|post=ocsgyf/going_to_ever_free
|archive=https://archive.fo/dcP2u}}</ref> WCT alerted Chris to Sockness's statements.

On 13 July 2021, Chris brought up [[Bella]] to WCT, telling WCT she would be accompanying him to Everfree Northwest.<ref name=EverfreeSecurity></ref>

On 19 July 2021, Chris invited Bella, as well as the [[Suitress]]; who was also set to meet Chris at the convention; into the [[Knights of CWC]],<ref>[[WCT DMs#Invitation]]</ref> a [[Watchmen]] splinter group headed by WCT and the group discussed plans to protect Chris from Sockness. Bella would claim that she would be a bodyguard for Chris.<ref>[[The Knights of CWC chats (July 2021)#Everfree Northwest]]</ref>

On the night of 19 July 2021, Bella invited WCT, the Suitress, and Chris into her [[Chess Group 15|chess group #15]] Discord server. WCT discussed his conflict with Naught, Kyle and MKR, and told Bella he had been "working with Former Kiwi Farmers to bring down the Watchmen" and asked Bella to assist him in doxing Naught, calling him an "evil man."<ref name=chess>[[Chess Group 15 Chats#Watchmen Treason]]</ref> Through Bella's help, WCT was able to dox [[Naught]]'s mother.<ref>{{Cite farms|thread=97689|post=10303881}}</ref>

==The Incest Scandal==
On 2 July 2021, Chris had confessed with the WCT about having an affair with a woman "older than him", but did not reveal to him that his affair had occurred with his mother. On 28 July, Chris would admit to Bella that he was in the middle of an [[Affair with Mother|incestuous relationship with his mother]].

WCT had created the group chat, [[Regarding Chris]], where he and selected other Chris orbiters would question Bella on what was happening. Bella gave the files to the Suitress and both would leak Chris's statements in the following days. Even after the leak, Chris was still willing to talk to Bella; it took both [[Null]] and WCT telling him he shouldn't to make Chris reconsider and cut ties with Bella.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Discussing the incest fallout]]</ref>

===Targeted by the Halal Server===
In August 2021, [[MKRNightVee]] and [[Naught]] joined the Halal Server. There, MKRNightVee in particular spread vicious rumors about The WCT, such as accusing him of plotting to have Chris killed.<ref name=halalserver>[https://www.onionfarms.com/attachments/halal-server-zip.10884/ Zip file of Halal Server leaks hosted at Onion Farms]</ref>

==Interview==

The WCT was interviewed over Discord about the Watchmen breakup on 11 July 2021. The WCT's messages are in blue and the interviewer's in green.

{{quoteboxgreen|Hi. Someone told me you’re The WCT. If it’s okay with you, I’d like to ask you some questions about the Watchmen breakup for the Cwcki.}}

{{quotebox|hi there.

and yes, by all means ask said questions.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|The initial conflict seems to be between you and Bismuth, that Bismuth doxed you. How did it grow to break up the Watchmen group?}}

{{quotebox|After I concluded that it was Bismuth that was responsible for the doxing, I made the choice to contact MKRNightVee (or Meghan some of you know her as) and I showed her a lot of screenshots in DMs that compared the typing style of his old Kiwi Farms accounts to one that he used to dox me. (which was Nightmare)

I recall telling her that I was 90 percent sure that it was him.

But in spite of the evidence that I had presented to her at the time, she didn't believe me. And during our VC on June 21st, She and Kyle were still not convinced.

They originally thought it was somebody who I angered in the past, but knowing what the Nightmare account was up to at the time, I knew that it was him.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|How did Chris learn of the dispute?}}

{{quotebox|Not long after the VC, I decided that I would contact him myself.

So with the help of a Former Watchmen who had his phone number, I was able to get in contact with him on June 25th.

And there, I had an hour and 40 minute talk with him that first started off as any conversation I'd usually have with him until I was comfortable enough to tell him the details.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Did you show Chris the same evidence that you did to MKRNightVee?}}

{{quotebox|When I was talking with MKR, I didn't show her as much evidence at the time since the Investigation was still ongoing. And compared to what I shared with Chris, I shared less with MKR.

Not because I didn't trust her, but it was because there was not enough information available at the time. And what I ended up showing Chris was a combination of the Kiwi Farms posts and the VC that I had with the rest of the group.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|How did Chris react to it?}}

{{quotebox|It took Chris a while to process it.

With each screenshot, he began to believe that my claims were true. And when we were both going over the VC, he noticed how Bismuth was getting really defensive and thought that he was clearly lying to me.

Especially when I told Bismuth that Josh (Null) claimed to me that him and Nightmare were the same person.
And that 3-4 seconds of silence on his part was something that helped convince Chris that I was in the right.

He also noticed how hostile Bismuth was getting towards me as well, especially when I kept on asking him if he doxed me or not. Chris saw that as a red flag.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Did Chris cut ties with Bismuth?}}

{{quotebox|From what I know, yes he did.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|What happened between Chris and MKRNightVee? MKR’s recent tweets indicate they’ve had a falling out. Is it related to the Watchmen breakup?}}

{{quotebox|yes it is.

Meghan was upset that Chris had sided with me in regards to what had happened.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|How does Praetor fit in to this? MKRNightVee has said in a tweet that you’ve teamed up with them.}}

{{quotebox|Praetor had nothing to do with what happened.

Its just that when they got word from Chris that he had left the server, they followed. So it makes sense on MKR's part to accuse me of working with them because we all either got banned or left the place at the same time.

It was a strange coincidence yes, but there is zero contact between me and Caden.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|What server did Chris leave?}}

{{quotebox|The Watchmen's Place.

as some of you might've heard of on the CWCki. - https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Discord#The_Watchmen.27s_Place}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Why did he leave it?}}

{{quotebox|when he got word that I got banned from the server (by Kyle that is), he saw it as a green light to leave it himself.

So essentially he saw my banning as a signal to him that my suspicions about Bismuth and the others were correct.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Are you still in contact with Chris?}}

{{quotebox|at this moment in time, I'm not.

We went our separate ways not long after the Watchmen had broken up and I believe that its for the best for both me and him.

And rather or not if he wants to be in touch with me still is completely up to him, but I won't be too surprised if he had already moved on at this point, and I respect whatever path he goes on moving forward.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Forgot to ask earlier, but what was your motivation for informing Chris of the conflict between you and Bismuth/MKR/Kyle?}}

{{quotebox|I was running out of options on what to do. When MKR and Kyle didn't believe my claims, I felt that I had no choice but to inform Chris on what had happened.

It was a very risky move on my part to do that, but I don't regret telling him.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|That’s all the questions I have. Thank you for answering. Is there anything else you would like to add?}}

{{quotebox|I just want to let people know that Chris is now a free man with nobody to dictate his actions. And for his sake, it needs to remain that way.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|Thanks again. I'll look to getting this conversation to the CWCki. Do you want your username/avatar censored?}}

{{quotebox|yes}}

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==Conclusion==

With his last remaining hours of freedom, Chris chose to send his final known online message to WCT, informing him that the pets were being taken care of.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Chris's final messages]]</ref> Within a few hours, Chris was [[Jail Saga#Arrest|taken into custody]], which WCT claimed to have "felt a sense of pain" watching.<ref name=wctmkrdms>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/sean-walker-discord-leaks-merged-feat-mkrnightvee-ex-kiwis-the-fool-and-o-p-ii.100542/ Sean Walker Discord Leaks feat. MKRNightVee, ex-Kiwis @The Fool and @{o}P II. ''Kiwi Farms'']</ref>

On 13 [[September 2021]], The WCT was contacted by [[MKR]] on Discord for the first time since the fall of the Watchmen.<ref name=wctmkrdms></ref> Throughout the conversation, WCT lamented his situation, calling himself a failure for not recognizing [[WCT_DMs#Chris_describes_his_lady_friend|the signs of Chris and Barb's incestuous relationship]] as well as [[Fabricated BDSM texts|Bella's manipulation]], thoughts he admitted caused him to contemplate suicide. Nevertheless, he insisted that he had no regrets and claimed that everything was meant to be. He theorized and repeated multiple times throughout the conversation that the [[Kiwi Farms]] would be defunct within the next couple of years, no doubt wishful thinking on his part. WCT's hatred of [[Bismuth]] showed no signs of having subsided. At one point, he takes a page out of Chris's book and threatens to both [[Chris and the law|sue and call the police on]] the fellow former Watchman. Other proposed victims of his legal wrath included [[Null]] and a prominent [[CWCki]] admin, though The WCT recognized that these actions would likely be all for naught.

In [[Jail Letter - 18 January 2022]], Chris mentioned that he wished to get back in contact with Wildcat, presumably referring to one of The WCT's pseudonyms. It remains to be seen if WCT has plans for when - if ever - Chris gets out of jail, but it's likely his involvement in Chris's life is over.

==See also==
*[[Helena-WCT DMs]]
*[[Kiwi Farms posts (The WCT)]]
*[[The Place chats - Randy Stair discussion]]
*[[WCT DMs]]

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[[Category:Christubers]]
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Talk:Stress sigh

2023-08-01T03:49:41Z

Lilacraven:

==Stress sign counter==
This is a very big project but we should try and compile the number of times Chris has sighed in all publicly available media related to him and then try and calculate the average sigh per video. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:47, 7 December 2009 (CET)

== "filler" words ==

I've noticed that when people tell him things that are "inconvenient" to him, he tends to stop making actual replies and starts saying things like "mmm", "alright", "yeah", etc. Am I wrong in believing that something like this should go into this article? [[User:Fat Nigger|Fat Nigger]] 23:07, 7 December 2009 (CET)
:Shit, the average amount of sighs per video would skyrocket if I counted the mms and yeahs and alrights...I'll add a note about them and do a recount soonish. --[[User:James Lamp-Eye|James Lamp-Eye]] 09:49, 13 December 2009 (CET)

== Rewrite ==

I removed the "Sightings" section. It only glossed over Chris's use of the stress sigh, and I think that a comprehensive list of Chris's sighs would be unnecessary, at least as part of this article. I support the "stress sigh counter," but the statistic is in significant need of an update. Anyone who wants to put the 12 December 2009 figure back in as a placeholder is welcome to. The "anti-sigh" or "hmph" is growing in prominence, and might be better served with a small article of its own, but it might be a bit soon for that. [[User:CWCspatcher|CWCspatcher]] 20:00, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Video Evidence ==

I'm not entirely sure if it requires such, but perhaps the addition of a compilation video of some or all of chris' different sighs would be in order. (not nessescarily each and every one, but he appears to have a few different inflections on the sigh he uses) I'll have a look at doing so personally, but i think others may have better experience with editing videos with more skill than I. --[[User:Jakkarra|Jakkarra]] 16:17, 21 October 2010 (PDT)

==Notable instances==

Perhaps we could include a list of important occurrences of his sighs, like when people have brought them up to him and when sighing has gotten him in trouble. There obviously is not enough room for all of them.--[[User:Blue Bully|Blue Bully]] ([[User talk:Blue Bully|talk]]) 22:43, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

==Merge with Speech Impediment==

I think we should merge this article with the [[Speech Impediment]] article, as there's not that much on this one. Any disagreements? [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 23:12, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

==I agree, but...==
We have two main options: merging it with "[[Stress]]" or "[[Speech Impediment]]". I think the first one sounds better but I'll wait for everyone's approval before I do anything big. - [[User:Anemichu|Anemichu]] ([[User talk:Anemichu|talk]]) 20:09, 2 December 2022 (EST)

==Stress sounds better==
I think merging with the [[Stress]] article would be more appropriate, I don't think sighing counts as a speech impediment. -[[User:Lilacraven|Lilacraven]] ([[User talk:Lilacraven|talk]]) 00:23, 1 August 2023 (EST)

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2023-07-31T05:57:00Z

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Beneath the Bridge

2023-07-31T05:47:49Z

Lilacraven:

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{{quote|another trip down memory lane, with dives into hell and back|Chris<ref name=placebridge>[[The Place chats - Beneath the Bridge]]</ref>}}

'''Beneath the Bridge''' is a YouTube series featuring coverage of Chris co-created by Twitter users cw_true/smokelydokely (Smoky Chris) and NoChanceHigh1 (KevinT/ThatSperg)<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b2jQR-3LxY</ref>. It is posted on the YouTube channel @SomeChannellllllll <ref>https://www.youtube.com/@SomeChannellllllll</ref>. The series had a stated goal of "examining a crucial element behind Chris Chan: the trolls. Entitled "Beneath the Bridge," this series will examine the trolls who have interacted with Chris prior to his introduction to the Internet up to the present day. It will not focus solely on Chris Chan's life." It ran from February 2019 until being abandoned in December of the same year, around the same time the creators' Twitter accounts were banned.<ref>https://twitter.com/smokelydokely</ref> It is unknown why the series was abandoned.

The videos are a in-depth look at some of the trolls that have influenced Chris's life, starting with [[Sarah Hammer]] and ending with [[Jimmy Hill]]. Some more prevalent trolls such as [[Megan Schroeder]] have multiple parts devoted to them.

On 5 [[November 2020]], Chris chatted in [[The Place]] about his experience watching the series, noting in particular that he had been cringing and crying during its coverage of [[Megan Schroeder]].<ref name=placebridge></ref>

==Creators & Background==
On 30 [[November 2019]], YouTube user Some Channel (Originally SmokyChris or SmokyChrisAndTheSperg) posted ''Chris Chan: Beneath the Bridge: Introduction Trailer''.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuIgTT5IooM</ref> It was said to be written and edited by Twitter users cw_true and i_lasag, with cw_true narrating the video. Beginning with the second official episode, cw_true, known to go by "SmokyCheeseChuck"<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20190404084443/https://twitter.com/cw_true</ref> and "Smoky Chris", had started linking the Twitter account smokelydokely as the main Twitter account in the description of ''Beneath the Bridge'' episodes.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b2jQR-3LxY</ref> Additionally, he was now credited as the co-creator, along with Twitter user NoChanceHigh1, who himself was initially credited as as KevinT<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20200924002647/twitter.com/NoChanceHigh1</ref>, later going by "ThatSperg" or "TheSperg".<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpGP-ylqtHE</ref> The creators also had a Discord server, which is now deleted.<ref>https://discord.com/invite/9KfYR9v</ref>

The art for the show was created by Twitter user IiiNoodleman. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXDnI4pZDXM</ref>

The series was abandoned for unknown reasons on the 12th episode, after covering Jimmy Hill. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXDnI4pZDXM</ref>
It is suspected that the [[Watchmen]] were involved in the abandonment of the series, as Smoky Chris and ThatSperg were confirmed to have ties and contact with [[Naught]].<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Naught#History</ref>
{{References}}
{{Documentaries}}
[[Category:Documentaries]]

Beneath the Bridge

2023-07-31T05:47:38Z

Lilacraven:

{{stub}}

{{quote|another trip down memory lane, with dives into hell and back|Chris<ref name=placebridge>[[The Place chats - Beneath the Bridge]]</ref>}}

'''Beneath the Bridge''' is a YouTube series featuring coverage of Chris co-created by Twitter users cw_true/smokelydokely (Smoky Chris) and NoChanceHigh1 (KevinT/ThatSperg)<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b2jQR-3LxY</ref>. It is posted on the YouTube channel @SomeChannellllllll <ref>https://www.youtube.com/@SomeChannellllllll</ref>. The series had a stated goal of "examining a crucial element behind Chris Chan: the trolls. Entitled "Beneath the Bridge," this series will examine the trolls who have interacted with Chris prior to his introduction to the Internet up to the present day. It will not focus solely on Chris Chan's life." It ran from February 2019 until being abandoned in December of the same year, around the same time the creators' Twitter accounts were banned.<ref>https://twitter.com/smokelydokely</ref> It is unknown why the series was abandoned.

The videos are a in-depth look at some of the trolls that have influenced Chris's life, starting with [[Sarah Hammer]] and ending with [[Jimmy Hill]]. Some more prevalent trolls such as [[Megan Schroeder]] have multiple parts devoted to them.

On 5 [[November 2020]], Chris chatted in [[The Place]] about his experience watching the series, noting in particular that he had been cringing and crying during its coverage of [[Megan Schroeder]].<ref name=placebridge></ref>

==Creators & Background==
On 30 [[November 2019]], YouTube user Some Channel (Originally SmokyChris or SmokyChrisAndTheSperg posted ''Chris Chan: Beneath the Bridge: Introduction Trailer''.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuIgTT5IooM</ref> It was said to be written and edited by Twitter users cw_true and i_lasag, with cw_true narrating the video. Beginning with the second official episode, cw_true, known to go by "SmokyCheeseChuck"<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20190404084443/https://twitter.com/cw_true</ref> and "Smoky Chris", had started linking the Twitter account smokelydokely as the main Twitter account in the description of ''Beneath the Bridge'' episodes.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b2jQR-3LxY</ref> Additionally, he was now credited as the co-creator, along with Twitter user NoChanceHigh1, who himself was initially credited as as KevinT<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20200924002647/twitter.com/NoChanceHigh1</ref>, later going by "ThatSperg" or "TheSperg".<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpGP-ylqtHE</ref> The creators also had a Discord server, which is now deleted.<ref>https://discord.com/invite/9KfYR9v</ref>

The art for the show was created by Twitter user IiiNoodleman. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXDnI4pZDXM</ref>

The series was abandoned for unknown reasons on the 12th episode, after covering Jimmy Hill. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXDnI4pZDXM</ref>
It is suspected that the [[Watchmen]] were involved in the abandonment of the series, as Smoky Chris and ThatSperg were confirmed to have ties and contact with [[Naught]].<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Naught#History</ref>
{{References}}
{{Documentaries}}
[[Category:Documentaries]]

Beneath the Bridge

2023-07-31T05:37:54Z

Lilacraven:

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{{quote|another trip down memory lane, with dives into hell and back|Chris<ref name=placebridge>[[The Place chats - Beneath the Bridge]]</ref>}}

'''Beneath the Bridge''' is a YouTube series featuring coverage of Chris co-created by Twitter users cw_true/smokelydokely (Smoky Chris) and NoChanceHigh1 (KevinT/ThatSperg)<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b2jQR-3LxY</ref>. It is posted on the YouTube channel @SomeChannellllllll <ref>https://www.youtube.com/@SomeChannellllllll</ref>. The series had a stated goal of "examining a crucial element behind Chris Chan: the trolls. Entitled "Beneath the Bridge," this series will examine the trolls who have interacted with Chris prior to his introduction to the Internet up to the present day. It will not focus solely on Chris Chan's life." It ran from February 2019 until being abandoned in December of the same year, around the same time the creators' Twitter accounts were banned.<ref>https://twitter.com/smokelydokely</ref> It is unknown why the series was abandoned.

The videos are a in-depth look at some of the trolls that have influenced Chris's life, starting with [[Sarah Hammer]] and ending with [[Jimmy Hill]]. Some more prevalent trolls such as [[Megan Schroeder]] have multiple parts devoted to them.

On 5 [[November 2020]], Chris chatted in [[The Place]] about his experience watching the series, noting in particular that he had been cringing and crying during its coverage of [[Megan Schroeder]].<ref name=placebridge></ref>

==Creators & Background==
On 30 [[November 2019]], YouTube user Some Channel posted ''Chris Chan: Beneath the Bridge: Introduction Trailer''.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuIgTT5IooM</ref> It was said to be written and edited by Twitter users cw_true and i_lasag, with cw_true narrating the video. Beginning with the second official episode, cw_true, known to go by "SmokyCheeseChuck"<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20190404084443/https://twitter.com/cw_true</ref> and "Smoky Chris", had started linking the Twitter account smokelydokely as the main Twitter account in the description of ''Beneath the Bridge'' episodes.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b2jQR-3LxY</ref> Additionally, he was now credited as the co-creator, along with Twitter user NoChanceHigh1, who himself was initially credited as as KevinT<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20200924002647/twitter.com/NoChanceHigh1</ref>, later going by "ThatSperg".<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpGP-ylqtHE</ref> The creators also had a Discord server, which is now deleted.<ref>https://discord.com/invite/9KfYR9v</ref>

The art for the show was created by Twitter user IiiNoodleman. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXDnI4pZDXM</ref>

The series was abandoned for unknown reasons on the 12th episode, after covering Jimmy Hill. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXDnI4pZDXM</ref>
It is suspected that the [[Watchmen]] were involved in the abandonment of the series, as Smoky Chris and ThatSperg were confirmed to have ties and contact with [[Naught]].<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Naught#History</ref>
{{References}}
{{Documentaries}}
[[Category:Documentaries]]

Beneath the Bridge

2023-07-31T05:37:08Z

Lilacraven:

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{{quote|another trip down memory lane, with dives into hell and back|Chris<ref name=placebridge>[[The Place chats - Beneath the Bridge]]</ref>}}

'''Beneath the Bridge''' is a YouTube series featuring coverage of Chris co-created by Twitter users cw_true/smokelydokely (Smoky Chris) and NoChanceHigh1 (KevinT/ThatSperg)<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b2jQR-3LxY</ref>. It is posted on the YouTube channel @SomeChannellllllll <ref>https://www.youtube.com/@SomeChannellllllll</ref>. The series had a stated goal of "examining a crucial element behind Chris Chan: the trolls. Entitled "Beneath the Bridge," this series will examine the trolls who have interacted with Chris prior to his introduction to the Internet up to the present day. It will not focus solely on Chris Chan's life." It ran from February 2019 until being abandoned in December of the same year, around the same time the creators' Twitter accounts were banned.<ref>https://twitter.com/smokelydokely</ref> It is unknown why the series was abandoned.

The videos are a in-depth look at some of the trolls that have influenced Chris's life, starting with [[Sarah Hammer]] and ending with [[Jimmy Hill]]. Some more prevalent trolls such as [[Megan Schroeder]] have multiple parts devoted to them.

On 5 [[November 2020]], Chris chatted in [[The Place]] about his experience watching the series, noting in particular that he had been cringing and crying during its coverage of [[Megan Schroeder]].<ref name=placebridge></ref>

==Creators & Background==
On 30 [[November 2019]], YouTube user Some Channel posted ''Chris Chan: Beneath the Bridge: Introduction Trailer''.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuIgTT5IooM</ref> It was said to be written and edited by Twitter users cw_true and i_lasag, with cw_true narrating the video. Beginning with the second official episode, cw_true, known to go by "SmokyCheeseChuck"<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20190404084443/https://twitter.com/cw_true</ref> and "Smoky Chris", had started linking the Twitter account smokelydokely as the main Twitter account in the description of ''Beneath the Bridge'' episodes.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b2jQR-3LxY</ref> Additionally, he was now credited as the co-creator, along with Twitter user NoChanceHigh1, who himself was initially credited as as KevinT<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20200924002647/twitter.com/NoChanceHigh1</ref>, later going by "ThatSperg".<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpGP-ylqtHE</ref> The creators also had a Discord server, which is now deleted.<ref>https://discord.com/invite/9KfYR9v</ref>

The art for the show was created by Twitter user IiiNoodleman.

The series was abandoned for unknown reasons on the 12th episode, after covering Jimmy Hill. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXDnI4pZDXM</ref>
It is suspected that the [[Watchmen]] were involved in the abandonment of the series, as Smoky Chris and ThatSperg were confirmed to have ties and contact with [[Naught]].<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Naught#History</ref>
{{References}}
{{Documentaries}}
[[Category:Documentaries]]

Beneath the Bridge

2023-07-31T05:36:06Z

Lilacraven:

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{{quote|another trip down memory lane, with dives into hell and back|Chris<ref name=placebridge>[[The Place chats - Beneath the Bridge]]</ref>}}

'''Beneath the Bridge''' is a YouTube series featuring coverage of Chris co-created by Twitter users cw_true/smokelydokely (Smoky Chris) and NoChanceHigh1 (KevinT/ThatSperg)<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b2jQR-3LxY</ref>. It is posted on the YouTube channel @SomeChannellllllll <ref>https://www.youtube.com/@SomeChannellllllll</ref>. The series had a stated goal of "examining a crucial element behind Chris Chan: the trolls. Entitled "Beneath the Bridge," this series will examine the trolls who have interacted with Chris prior to his introduction to the Internet up to the present day. It will not focus solely on Chris Chan's life." It ran from February 2019 until being abandoned in December of the same year, around the same time the creators' Twitter accounts were banned.<ref>https://twitter.com/smokelydokely</ref> It is unknown why the series was abandoned.

The videos are a in-depth look at some of the trolls that have influenced Chris's life, starting with [[Sarah Hammer]] and ending with [[Jimmy Hill]]. Some more prevalent trolls such as [[Megan Schroeder]] have multiple parts devoted to them.

On 5 [[November 2020]], Chris chatted in [[The Place]] about his experience watching the series, noting in particular that he had been cringing and crying during its coverage of [[Megan Schroeder]].<ref name=placebridge></ref>

==Creators & Background==
On 30 [[November 2019]], YouTube user Some Channel posted ''Chris Chan: Beneath the Bridge: Introduction Trailer''.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuIgTT5IooM</ref> It was said to be written and edited by Twitter users cw_true and i_lasag, with cw_true narrating the video. Beginning with the second official episode, cw_true, known to go by "SmokyCheeseChuck"<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20190404084443/https://twitter.com/cw_true</ref> and "Smoky Chris", had started linking the Twitter account smokelydokely as the main Twitter account in the description of ''Beneath the Bridge'' episodes.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b2jQR-3LxY</ref> Additionally, he was now credited as the co-creator, along with Twitter user NoChanceHigh1, who himself was initially credited as as KevinT, later going by "ThatSperg".<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpGP-ylqtHE</ref> The creators also had a Discord server, which is now deleted.<ref>https://discord.com/invite/9KfYR9v</ref>

The art for the show was created by Twitter user IiiNoodleman.

The series was abandoned for unknown reasons on the 12th episode, after covering Jimmy Hill. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXDnI4pZDXM</ref>
It is suspected that the [[Watchmen]] were involved in the abandonment of the series, as Smoky Chris and ThatSperg were confirmed to have ties and contact with [[Naught]].<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Naught#History</ref>
{{References}}
{{Documentaries}}
[[Category:Documentaries]]

Beneath the Bridge

2023-07-31T05:34:03Z

Lilacraven: Added a lot more information and background on the series and the creators.

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{{quote|another trip down memory lane, with dives into hell and back|Chris<ref name=placebridge>[[The Place chats - Beneath the Bridge]]</ref>}}

'''Beneath the Bridge''' is a YouTube series featuring coverage of Chris co-created by Twitter users cw_true/smokelydokely (Smoky Chris) and NoChanceHigh1 (KevinT/ThatSperg)<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b2jQR-3LxY</ref>. It is posted on the YouTube channel @SomeChannellllllll <ref>https://www.youtube.com/@SomeChannellllllll</ref>. The series had a stated goal of "examining a crucial element behind Chris Chan: the trolls. Entitled "Beneath the Bridge," this series will examine the trolls who have interacted with Chris prior to his introduction to the Internet up to the present day. It will not focus solely on Chris Chan's life." It ran from February 2019 until being abandoned in December of the same year, around the same time the creators' Twitter accounts were banned.<ref>https://twitter.com/smokelydokely</ref> It is unknown why the series was abandoned.

The videos are a in-depth look at some of the trolls that have influenced Chris's life, starting with [[Sarah Hammer]] and ending with [[Jimmy Hill]]. Some more prevalent trolls such as [[Megan Schroeder]] have multiple parts devoted to them.

On 5 [[November 2020]], Chris chatted in [[The Place]] about his experience watching the series, noting in particular that he had been cringing and crying during its coverage of [[Megan Schroeder]].<ref name=placebridge></ref>

==Creators & Background==
On 30 [[November 2019]], YouTube user Some Channel posted ''Chris Chan: Beneath the Bridge: Introduction Trailer''.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuIgTT5IooM</ref> It was said to be written and edited by Twitter users cw_true and i_lasag, with cw_true narrating the video. Beginning with the second official episode, cw_true, known to go by "SmokyCheeseChuck"<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20190404084443/https://twitter.com/cw_true</ref> and "Smoky Chris" had started linking the Twitter account smokelydokely as the main Twitter account in the description of ''Beneath the Bridge'' episodes.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b2jQR-3LxY</ref> Additionally, he was now credited as the co-creator, along with Twitter user NoChanceHigh1, who himself was initially credited as as KevinT, later going by "ThatSperg".<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpGP-ylqtHE</ref> The creators also had a Discord server, which is now deleted.<ref>https://discord.com/invite/9KfYR9v</ref>

The art for the show was created by Twitter user IiiNoodleman.

The series was abandoned for unknown reasons on the 12th episode, after covering Jimmy Hill. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXDnI4pZDXM</ref>
It is suspected that the [[Watchmen]] were involved in the abandonment of the series, as Smoky Chris and ThatSperg were confirmed to have ties and contact with [[Naught]].<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Naught#History</ref>
{{References}}
{{Documentaries}}
[[Category:Documentaries]]

Megan Schroeder

2023-07-31T04:15:20Z

Lilacraven: /* Years later */ Changed the wording of the info on The Place chat of March 25 2021

{{Needs Updating|[[The Place chats - Megan Obsession]]|[[The Place chats - Beneath the Bridge‎]]|[[The Place chats - Psychic Detective]]}}
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{{Protip|Do NOT attempt to contact Megan.

She's moved on with her life and has already published a statement about Chris, making it clear she wants nothing to do with him. Don't drag her back into this.}}
{{Honest}}


{{quote|Ah, For Her I Would travel even A Thousand Miles, just to be with her. Fortunately, she lives only about one hour from my house, and I meet her once a week at a closer-to-home social. This feeling, It was, and still is, so pure and true, it was like as if I was Born to Love Her. When She Smiles, I feel like I'm Walking on Sunshine as I give my replying smile and gaze into her eyes. And her hair is the softest and most warm-tingling. Cloud Nine? I feel like I'm on Ten.|Christian, ''[[Story of My Current Days]]''}}
{{Quote|ED didn't drag my name through the mud but you did.
I don't know, I can't keep disgracing myself and forgiving and forgiving. I have some pride you know. I've forgiven you so many times before it's just getting irritating now. Even I have my limits.|Megan gives her own view<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008]]</ref>}}

{{Infobox Person
| name = Megan Schroeder
| aliases = pearl3 CPU Red Heart
| image = meganwithcwc.png
| title = Megan Schroder
| nationality = [[United States|American]]
| day = 23
| month = 7
| year = 1986
| race = White
| gender = Female
| knownfor = *Being one of Chris's few friends outside of High School. *Being an unwilling candidate in Chris's Love Quest, despite telling Chris numerous times that she was not interested *Being the subject of [[SheCameForCWC.jpg|a horrid drawing]] of Chris fingering her. *Being a scapegoat by Chris and his family for why he's being trolled.
| saga = {{saga|megan|cn}}, {{saga|stackhouse|cn}}, {{saga|ed|cn}}, {{saga|gameplace|cn}}
}}

'''Megan Schroeder''' (born 23 July [[1986]]) is a former [[gal pal]] of [[Christian Weston Chandler]]'s, with whom he had perhaps the closest [[Chris_and_socialization|relationship]] with anybody he's ever had in his life, and previously one [[The Wallflower|of]] [[DoopieDoOver|four]] [[The Suitress|potential]] [[sweetheart|sweethearts]] that Chris met that wasn't a [[Troll]], [[Polyamorous marriage|a fictional character]], or [[Barbara Chandler|his own mother]].

Chris first met Megan in the summer of [[2004]] at [[The GAMe PLACe]], where she and her brother [[John]] were regulars. Megan and Chris became good friends, but Chris, being Chris, completely misread their bond as one that could blossom into a true and honest romance. Megan repeatedly tried to set boundaries that Chris either misunderstood or ignored, which led to increasing tensions between the two. This reached a boiling point during the early days of Chris's feud with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]], in which [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|Chris drew a pornographic image of himself and Megan]].

Following Chris's progressively creepier unwanted advances, and realizing that he drew porn of her, Megan cut off contact with him in early [[2008]]. Since then, Chris has developed an intense and unwarranted [[Chris and anger|grudge]] against her, thanks to misconceptions fed to him by [[Borb|his parents]], and his [[autism|autistic delusions]] about her scheming with [[Michael Snyder]] to have him banned from The GAMe PLACe. Chris's attempted contacts with Megan have dragged on as late as [[2018]]. Thanks to the [[Idea Guys]], he later came to believe that she was a [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Goddess]], much like [[CPU Blue Heart|himself]], but Chris never got to speak with her again.

==Prologue==
{{main|Megan emails, 2005-2006}}
{{See also|Megan emails, Jan-July 2007}}
[[Image:156-CWCMegan1.jpg|thumb|Look at the fear in her eyes...]]

{{quote|During the late summer months, I picked up and started the [[Yu-Gi-Oh]] [[Trading Card Game]] (it was around the time the movie came into theaters). One Saturday at the Game Place (Where I was also going for Pokemon TCG on Fridays), I met Megan and [[John's Custom Gundam|John Schroeder]]. At first I thought they were a couple but then they were just Sister and Brother. Over the months of getting to know Megan, I grew fond of her. Although at that time, and up to now, she wasn't interested in a lovely relationship. I've bided to her wishes and requests. I am truly fond of her, and I hope she will have a change of heart soon. She'll be turning 21 on July 23, 2007.|Christian<ref>[[Yep, I'm on TV :)]]</ref>}}

Megan is a typical ''truly'' [[boyfriend-free girl]], even claiming to be [[Chris_and_sexuality#Asexuality|asexual]]. She had a few eccentricities, which Chris was more than happy to copy and oblige, namely her fondness for ''[[My Little Pony]]'', ''[[Sailor Moon]]'', and using Chris like a debit card because she was too lazy to go on [[eBay]] herself.

Megan and Chris first met at The GAMe PLACe in summer 2004, over a game of ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''. The two apparently struck up a friendship of sorts. They had an obvious connection from the start, since they were both idling their twenties away playing [[card games]] marketed to preteens. It only took [[Third date|a few games]] and a handful of e-mails before Chris saw Megan as his [[sweetheart]]. Megan, however, did not reciprocate this sentiment. It probably didn't help that Megan was getting Chris to buy things for her like a stereotypical wife nagging her husband:

{{quote|Please can you get this video for me? please hurry! thanks!|Megan, [[Megan_Emails,_2005-2006#Megan_wants_a_Tin_Tin_episode|Megan E-mails]]}}
Through the end of 2005 and into [[2006]], Chris obsessed over Megan, writing her [[Sonichu 5|into his comic]], trying to drag her into dates, trying to snuggle, hold her hand, kiss her, and other attempted romantic gestures. This didn't accomplish anything but rousing the ire of Megan, who was uncomfortable with these advances and only saw him as a friend, nothing more. She repeatedly tried to assert her asexuality to Chris, in an effort to prevent his advances. Sadly, this fell on deaf ears, and Chris continued to hound her. Even when Megan eventually resorted to claiming she had a boyfriend, Chris was not deterred.

Unfortunately for her, this was only the beginning...

==Megan Saga==

===Sailor Megtune===
{{Main|Sailor Megtune}}

Megan, like Chris, enjoyed drawing cartoons, and this seems to have caught Chris's eye early in the game:

{{quote|Everytime I see your drawings, I get inspired to want to work more on [[Sonichu (comic)|my comics]].|Christian, [[Megan_Emails,_2005-2006#Chris_wants_to_date_Megan_at_McDonald.27s|Megan E-mails]]}}

In what was a fortunate alignment of his ass-kissing campaign with the series of diary entries that ''Sonichu'' had become, Megan (later [[retconned]] as '''Meg-chan''') soon made her first appearance as [[Sailor Megtune]] in [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu'' #5]] along with [[Megagi La Skunk]], her own furry sidekick. The two are purportedly "[[Sailor Moon|Sailor Soldiers]]" and reveal on the spot that Chris is an old friend of theirs (including Megagi) and thwart the evil [[Jerkop]]s trying to ruin Chris' [[Love Quest]] with Rockin' Hurricane, causing Magic Rocket to [[Team Rocket|blast off again]]. Her influence on the "art" of ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' is apparent in Chris's sudden transition to a more [[anime]] style with ''Sonichu'' #5, most notably in his character's eyes, which became large and shiny.

[[File:Sonichu - Episode 13, Page 27.jpg|thumb|Getting dangerously close to crossing the line...]]

Megan and Chris appeared to chat about comics in their e-mail conversations; Chris [[Ego|critiqued]] some of her story ideas, and ran the plotline for [[Sonichu 6|''Sonichu'' #6]] by her, including a bizarre offer to write in Megan's own imaginary daughter. While Megan probably found the whole thing harmlessly eccentric at first, ''Sonichu'' #5 managed to create some drama pretty quickly upon its release. Megan undoubtedly flipped when she saw her character getting romantic with Chris, as well as being portrayed in a sexualized manner. Chris completely failed to comprehend why she was angry, but did [[retcon]] a couple of pages to tone them down. This did not placate Megan, however.

===Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown===
{{main|Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown}}
{{See also|Megan Emails, Aug-Dec 2007}}

{{quote|In any case, I LOATHE [[Adam Stackhouse|Adam]] and his Sister for STEALING my one chance at taking my Sweet [[Gal pal|Gal-Friend]] to [[Wikipedia:Seattle|Seattle]]; [[Chris and rape|it would have been terriffic]]. I might have even been able to change her outlook on not planning on having children (she and I are both virgins; although I am a [[stress|FRUSTRATED]], High-Functionally [[autism|AUTISTIC]], 25-YEAR OLD [[Virgin with rage|VIRGIN]].|[[PSN Blogs]]}}

Megan spent the summer of [[2007]] in [[Wikipedia:Kentucky|Kentucky]], where her brother was taking a summer course in Mechanics. Undeterred, Chris continued e-mailing her, refusing to back away even for a moment as he ''still'' believed that, deep down inside, Megan truly did love him. Discovering Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown and the prizes for victory, Chris eagerly entered the contest, hoping to win a [[PSP]] and use the trip offered in the contest to win her [[china|heart]]. In the end, as expected, Chris lost (even after extensive cheating), [[Adam Stackhouse]] won, and Megan didn't care. Even when Chris began whining to her and others about how Adam and everyone else except Chris had somehow cheated, Megan didn't care either way. This childish behavior eventually resulted in Megan losing her temper with Chris, reprimanding him for his selfishness and inappropriate behavior. Despite being hurt by her outburst, Chris continued to harass Megan in much the same way as before.

===Sexual Tensions and The End of Megan===
{{Main|ShecameforCWC.JPG}}
{{See also|Megan emails, 2008}}

{{quote|And, by the way, that is not ''Crystal'' whose eyes are censored; that is ''Megan''!|Chris, stating [[Chris and art|the not-so-obvious]] and burning bridges with Megan for good<ref name="secondmessage">[[CWC's Second Message]]</ref>}}

[[File:ShecameforCWC (200803).JPG|thumb|...And the line has officially been crossed.]]

In November 2007, Chris discovered his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page and begin his one-man crusade [[Sonichu 8|against the garbage]]. In the process, he uploaded a number of [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack|pornographic and lewd]] artworks, one of which was [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|a picture of him fingering Megan]] with her eyes obscured. Trolls originally believed that she was [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|his imaginary sister Crystal]], which prompted an outraged Chris to try to deny accusations of [[Chris and sex#Incest|incestuous desires]] by revealing that the image was actually meant to represent Megan.<ref>[[List of Chris's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica#March 2008|Chris confirms Megan's identity on 18 March 2008.]]</ref><ref name="secondmessage"/>

By 12 [[March 2008]], Megan discovered the picture depicting her and demanded that it be removed immediately. Chris attempted to do so, but found himself blocked at every turn. His edits were quickly reverted, or even worse, compounded, as he tried to upload other versions of the picture with the face cropped out or obscured. On 21 [[April 2008]] Megan wrote an email to Chris saying she was not comfortable being around him anymore,<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Megan can't trust Chris anymore]]</ref> thus putting an end to their friendship.

Throughout the fiasco, Chris brashly attempted to paint himself as a greater victim than Megan, initially even assuming that she didn't understand what was going on in the picture. He later admitted that he created the image in part to suppress the occasional impulse to '''[[rape]] her''', and that trying to assert that what she was going through just ''being'' in the picture and learning what he could have done was ''nothing'' compared to the misery of the [[troll]]ing he was enduring.<ref>[[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris_continues_bothering_her_about_ED]]</ref>

Evidence suggests that Megan was distancing herself from Chris even before she discovered the awful drawing. Comments by former GAMe PLACe patrons [[Daniel Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] indicate that Megan was already avoiding Chris before she found out ShecameforCWC.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Initial post|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]: "Megan would usually stand/hide behind me and Lucas to avoid [Chris], '''especially after''' the drawings of her got leaked [emphasis added]." This comment suggests that Megan was avoiding Chris before ShecameforCWC came to her attention. In their [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Chris and Megan|discussion of Megan]], Mimms and Lucas seem to attribute Chris's groping as the main factor behind the deterioration of his relationship with her, while giving little weight to ShecameforCWC.</ref> Chris himself has partially confirmed this account on the [[CWCipedia]].<ref>[[CWCipedia]] on [https://archive.vn/rB99e Megan]: "When I started getting too close, [Megan] started to feel uncomfortable, My Bad. Then she distanced herself from me, saw other dudes, including a possible homosexual."</ref> It might very well be that ShecameforCWC was the last step in euthanizing a dying relationship, rather than killing a vibrant and living one.

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==Aftermath==
{{quote|Too bad I was never just that too all into him.|Cartoon Megan, "I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC"}}

{{quote|Megan... WHY?!|Christian,
"I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC"}}

Despite Megan telling him she was no longer comfortable being in his presence, Chris was not willing to give up on her. On 11 [[2008#June|June 2008]], Chris sent an email to a person named Tyler Wane, asking Tyler to deliver Megan the birthday gift Chris bought for her (a German-English dictionary). Chris said he could not deliver her the gift himself due to being "forced into hiatus from the Pokemon League by that S.O.B. [[Michael Snyder|Mike]]". Tyler in response suggested to Chris to arrange meeting with Megan outside [[The GAMe PLACe]].<ref><[[Chris emails 2008#June]]</ref>

Megan surfaced again in Chris's thoughts in [[July 2009]], first in the [[CWC "Boyfriend"]] video, and then in the subsequent update, [[I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC]]. Chris also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCo72hJ-SAg reposted] the Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown entry, though this version is slightly different from the ones frequently seen in latter days: After "...my friend Megan!", Chris inserted a short break with a photo of him and Megan, with a lovely heart frame. Either this is the original version before Chris tried to clean up his image, or a brand new version with new improved references to the long-lost love.

On 26 [[March 2009]], he released a [[CWC Major Update 26 March 2009 |Captain's Log]] where he told everyone to [[Chris and Hypocrisy|"leave her alone"]] because she was going through [[stress]] from the [[trolls]], and threatened to stop drawing the comic if they didn't. At the beginning of the video Chris claims that he was recently contacted by Megan, though it was most likely a troll posing as her seeing as she had cut off all ties with him.

On 12 [[August 2009]], he dedicated a song to Megan in one of his [[KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special]] videos, where the first sign that he'd convinced himself that she'd told him "I Love You" comes up (and he remains relatively consistent when speaking of her in acting as though this actually happened).

{{quote|Coming up next at #7, we got another long-distance dedication, to the old [[gal-pal]] of mine that I almost had a ra- I had meant to be- I had her "I love you" before I got kicked out, Megan Schroeder, her, from her favorite, this is from her favorite h-artist, Yngwie Malmsteen.|Christian, "[[KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special]]"}}

In 2010, he created a [[:File:ModNation GalPal.jpg|model of Megan]] for ''[[ModNation Racers]]'' (named "Gal Pal"), showing that he still couldn't let go.

=== Chris's version of events ===
On 16 [[May 2010]], the [[CWCipedia]]'s new fan manager Daria Camacho created a page for Megan, using the link on Chris's page of [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|gal-pals and sweethearts]]. When Chris discovered it, he erased all of Daria's text and wrote his own version. The abridged version of events he presents is much shorter than his gigantic [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|rant on The Wallflower]], probably because the events of the Megan Saga are beginning to fade from his memory.

{{quotebox|If you REALLY MUST KNOW...

Megan and I first met at a Yu-Gi-Oh Tournament at The G&H Place, back when it was still in the Downtown Mall. It was around the time the Y.G.O. Movie debuted in theaters. She and I, we talked, hung out and became really good friends.

"I DID have lovey-dovey feelings for her, and I still care about her as a friend. I did her a number of favors by getting her this and that off of eBay, then she would reimburse me the cost of each item.

When I started getting too close, she started to feel uncomfortable, My Bad. Then she distanced herself from me, saw other dudes, including a possible [[homos]]exual.

I drew that drawing of her and me that is unfortunately popular among everyone who tends to haze me for TWO REASONS. Firstly, because of My Own Wishful Thinking. And second a tool in a lame attempt to overcrowd the E.D. page against me with Bu**C*** with my own "information" to shut it down.

Ever since, she totally spaced herself from me, like as if she had put a restraining order against, which she did not. And as I was being forced off the Place premesis the last day I was there, she stood by and watched in shock. She could have spoken up for me, but she did not.

I have lost communication with Megan since then.}}

In the months and years after his "breakup" with Megan, Chris came to try and act as if he'd gotten over her. His [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|CWCipedia page]] on [[The Wallflower]], for instance, claimed "I had LOOOOOONG moved on from Megan."

However, a lingering attachment betrayed itself on occasion. The archive of his [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|female acquaintances]] on the CWCipedia noted, "I still miss her sometimes." In an [[Jackie_e-mails_Part_2#Chris_lies_about_The_Game_Place|e-mail to Jackie]] from April 2010, when he recounted having his picture taken at The GAMe PLACe, Chris said, "I was in a state of shock from seeing Megan and (her short-lived romance) Christopher MAKING OUT. '''That Should Have Been Me.'''"

==The Blame Game==

=== Origins ===
[[File:Megan Schroeder - 2013 September.jpeg|thumb|Megan, years later, still recovering from her ordeal. Out of frame: [[JERKS|JERK]].]]
The [[Matthew Noble call]] of August 2010 revealed that [[Bob]] and [[Barbara]] disliked and distrusted Megan, believing that she conspired with Michael Snyder and "some [[homos]]exual[s]" to get Chris banned from The GAMe PLACe. Barbara also mentions how Megan "lied" about something, suggesting that she believes Megan to be a troll.

It is possible that this belief originated with Chris, as in his correspondence with [[Katie Bay]], he lists Megan as a "possible troll".<ref>[[Katie_Bay_E-mails_2#26 July]]</ref> His reasoning was typical Chris - she had a vagina and didn't want to give him access to it. He also appears to have [[Autism|confused her with another white female brunette]] that placed a sign on his lawn on [[Halloween]] [[2008]].

=== Chris Doxes Megan ===

A series of leaked Facebook postings beginning in [[February 2012]] revealed Chris' ever-growing, pathological, and extreme hatred for Megan. His animosity for Megan supposedly grew much more vitriolic after buying into his parents' [[Chris and reality|completely baseless]] belief that Megan was responsible for the "Hate and Smear Campaign" against Chris:

{{quote|EVERYONE, I have most urgent news. It is Final in My Mind, and from my mother as an eye and ear witness of her consorting with [[Michael Snyder]] LONG Before Novembef, [[2007]]; Megan Schroeder IS the SEED of the Whole Hate and Smear Campaign Against Me on the [[Internet]]. If any of you all Know where she is, or have clues of her, or her brother...current wherabouts, Please Inform Me on THIS WALL, Posthaste. She is Needed Brought to me, my mother and [[Rob Bell|our attorney]], for Great Questioning, and a Huge Piece of my mind. Thank You, Christian W. Chandler|Chris, Facebook, [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Urgent news|February 18, 2012]]}}

In the following days, Chris posted her contact information in hopes that his friends would troll her. Thankfully, this effort was not successful.

[[File:Fbp10.png|thumb|Chris's moronic attempt at trolling back Megan. He exhibits a belief that if you simply dox people online, they get trolled back, not realizing the large number of reasons why this only happened to him.]]

On 4 April [[2013]], Chris denounced The GAMe PLACe and called for Megan to be "jailed and beaten up", describing her as a "vile, wicked, traitorous bitch"<ref>[[April 2013 Facebook posts#Leaving the Game Place behind]]</ref>—a rare display of hatred upon a woman not seen from Chris since [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. Judging by a 20 July 2013 Facebook post, Chris seems to be holding Schroeder, along with [[Michael Snyder|Snyder]], to be the main culprit behind the various misfortunes he had over the years.<ref>[[July 2013 Facebook Posts#Spring Breakers]]</ref>

=== Megagi La Scapegoat ===

Chris's vitriol for Megan continues almost six years after his ban from [[The GAMe PLACe]], and he has even resorted to using Megan as a scapegoat for everything bad that happens to him even if he is blatantly responsible. In the aftermath of a permaban from [[Wal-Mart]] on the weekend of 7 September 2013 for having vandalized an [[Xbox]] One display, Chris flew into an incoherent rage and began blaming Megan for both his Wal-mart and GAMe PLACe bans:

{{quote|If it had not been for Mr. "[[Manajerk]]", Megan Schroeder, and their Internet Troll/Cyber-Bully Breeding and Meeting Ground, Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys, My Family and I would not have had go through all of the emotionally depressing, and Financial Downfall to [[Financhu Crisis|the depths of Greatly Poor and Just Getting By!]] The Manajerk has drained us financially, thinking we are freaking rich. And Megan has robbed me emotionally, started all of the Hate Against Me on the freaking Internet, Never financially paid me back for ALL of the material favors I bought for her off of eBay, and I WANT MY UNCUT "SAILOR MOON' DVDS FROM SEASONS "R" TO "SAILOR STAR" THAT GERMAN WARFARE BITCH CONNED FROM ME RETURNED TO ME!!!|Chris, Facebook, September 7, 2013}}

[[File:Sept13 Imgur 28.jpg|thumb|left|Megan's fate as a Lego voodoo doll. Notice her goth style clothing.]]
On 24 September 2013, Chris claimed in a Facebook post to have received an email from Daniel Mimms about Megan's current whereabouts. He now classes her with the Witch ([[Mary Lee Walsh]]) and the Bastard ([[Michael Snyder]]), and makes three [[Lego]] minifigs of them and shakes them together as a sort of punishment.<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Voodoo-Wise]]</ref><ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Yep, the Bitch has not changed a thing...]]</ref> Of course, the notion that Chris can perform [[Wikipedia:Sympathetic magic|sympathetic magic]] to harm his enemies is [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|befitting]] with his [[Chris and reality|other delusions]]. Chris continued to use this Lego minifigure of Megan as a totem to relieve his anger for her, and it appeared a month later "in detention" at [[CWC Lego Manchester High School Oct 18 2013|Lego Manchester High]].

On 3 October 2013, Chris posted another [[October 2013 Facebook Posts#Megagi La Skunk agrees that you should have never been born|rambling tirade directed at Megan]] to Facebook. This time, Chris claimed that [[Megagi La Skunk]], Megan's cartoon character that she probably doesn't even remember making, told him that she is "deeply distrustful" and agrees with Chris that Megan should have never been born. Additionally, as if she would even care, Megan's [[Sailor Megtune]] "powers" were "revoked" by Chris. On top of reiterating the previous "wrongdoings" by Megan, Chris has proven nothing at all, except perhaps that he suffers from [[Chris and reality|some form of]] [[Chris and anger|mental illness.]]

{{quote|
You ungrateful bitch. Quit hiding behind the Anons, Trolls, PLace People and every Damned Person who you have deceived into siding with you.

By the way, I have checked with Megagi La Skunk; she feels deep distrust in you. We mutually agree that you should have never been born, even if it meant she would never exist. Also, your Sailor Megtune powers; I created them for you; I have taken them away from you! Usagi and the Sailor Scouts would have been most ashamed of you.

...And by the way, I pray you have been having Really Bad Luck, Feeling Paranoid of EVERYONE, and Shakingly Stressed, because I continue to leave your minifigure upside-down and shaken with the Witch and the Bastard! And I have been feeling the very same grave emotions myself for the Six Long Years, you damn, dirty bitch!|Chris, Facebook, October 3, 2013}}

Chris ended his first rant with a comment reading "NOBODY ELSE COMMENT THIS POST!!!", possibly because he's tired of having his atrocious behavior called out by even the most ass-patting of his friends. The following day, Chris focused all his blame like a laser beam on Megan, insisting that she is responsible for the [[CWCki]], virtually all of his [[List of places that have banned Chris|bans]], the "theft" of his [[Sailor Moon]] DVDs ''yet again'', and astonishingly, even the fact that he lacks a sweetheart. That's right: not only is Megan the one who's responsible for everything Chris inflicted on himself, but also Chris will ''only'' forgive Megan after he gets [[Chris and sex#Prostitution|unpaid]] [[china]] he feels entitled to.

{{quote|I will only forgive Megan, and remove all curses upon her, when she apologizes to me In Person and Face To Face, when the Cwcki, its forum, and Everything Else Against me on the Freaking Internet is GONE, GONE, GONE, when I am NOT BANNED FROM ANYWHERE, when I get my original Uncut Sailor Moon DVDs returned to me, when my Good Name is Cleared of all of the bad, AND when I have my female Sweetheart for Forever. And I am Not Stepping Down beforehand.|Chris, Facebook, October 4, 2013, 10:09am}}

=== Megan, Queen of the Trolls ===

Roughly two hours later, Chris posted another Facebook message. While seemingly intending to explain the methodology of Megan's master [[troll]] scheme, to everyone else it actually reads more like valid condemnations of Chris' obnoxious behavior by his peers and authority figures. Finally, Chris re-iterated his desire not to hear any criticism from his friends, instructing others not to comment on his post and challenging Megan to a face-to-face meeting. Whether Megan cares enough to challenge, in-person, a delusional 31-year old who lives with his [[Barb|mother]] remains yet to be seen.

{{quote|Megan, I KNOW you and the PLace employee continuously conversed and conspired against me. "Christian is so weird. " "Tell me about it." "He hangs onto me, touching me, clinging onto my every word. Ugh." "I can not stand his shouting outbursts that echos in my head after both of those times he stressed out." "I want to just kill him; destroy his goody-two-shoes nature, soul, heart and all that shit my mashed potato grenade could shatter, but leave his body in tact, so I'm not committed for murder." "I just want to ban him from "MY" store forever." "I got it! Let's get an embarrassing photo of him, post it online, and put him to shame forever!" "Mimms and Lucas are tech freaks! Let's enlist them." "Yeah! Chris will be banned from "YOUR" store based on the hyped up mal online reputation; he will be out of my life forever. Pending possible nightmares and night terrors to come, but who the fuck cares; his Autistic, Fragile mind will shatter along with his heart after I kiss my homosexual fake boyfriend in front of him!" ""HA HA HA HA HA AHA HA HA!!!!!""

I am onto your game that took away six years of my life and destroyed me; you either pay me what you owe, or I continue to curse and haunt you with my father at my side.|Chris, Facebook, October 4, 2013, 12:44pm}}

Chris later deleted the two posts prior to this one; a few hours later, he deleted this one as well.

In late 2020, Chris [[Spirit possession|(while "possessed" by Sonichu)]] revealed that he no longer believed Megan to be a troll, but that "[Chris] was to blame for all of the very stupid impulses and mistakes that ended that friendship."<ref>[[Discord Q&A 11#Chris's Closest Friend]]</ref> This seeming forgiveness may have been spurred on by his belief that Megan is a CPU goddess. It also shows [[Chris and his ego#Persecution complex|Chris's self-serving memory]] in action, considering that she was justified to feel uncomfortable at his unwanted advances on her and understandably creeped out by ShecameforCWC.JPG.

==Years later==
{{quote|I just say let her, wherever she is, live her life, and I'll just stay here, liv- living mine. It's all done and over with.|Chris}}

On 26 January 2016, in the [[CatKnight Interview 2|second CatKnight interview]], Sir Arthur Spatchcock brought up the topic of Megan and the [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Urgent news|grudge]] [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Pissed off|Chris]] [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Damn You|had]] [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Address|against]] [[October 2013 Facebook Posts#GAMe PLACe revelations|her]]. Chris claims that he has finally gotten over that grudge, wishing for her to be left alone to live her own life.

In February 2017, Chris looked up and browsed through Megan's Facebook account,<ref>[[February 2017 Facebook Posts#Found Megan's Facebook]]</ref> sharing one of her drawings to his own account. When asked by [[Kim Wilson]] if they were friends again, Chris responded:

{{quotebox|Not quite; I just gone through my past and recent sent friend requests, found Megan Schroeder, and I liked her cover photo; it's cute. She has a few cute dogs too. At least, she's doing okay; as far as I can tell.}}

The act of searching for his ex-[[gal pal]] came just four days after Chris posted about his feelings of nostalgia for his "friends" from [[Manchester High]].

Megan was asked about Chris on her Etsy page on July 1 2017. This was her response: <ref>https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aj5gd-lUeHJyhUknNI2IkmGQC1eq</ref>

{{quotebox|'''Hi'''

Thank you very much! Unfortunately with Chris he never learns from his mistakes, he refuses to accept any accountability. When I heard about the house fire, I thought maybe it was a blessing in disguise and he would start a new better life with a clean slate. But from whatI hear, no, he still begs for money and spends it all on legos...

Well thanks for the good wishes, I really appreciate that!}}

On 9 [[October 2017]], Chris once again looked up Megan's Facebook for her online store and left a comment on it:<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_Facebook_posts#Complimenting_Megan_Schroeder</ref>

{{quotebox|I just wanted to tell you I like your craft and are. You have become a lot more talented over the years. Many blessing to you and your family. 🌸}}

The post was later removed.

During the [[Idea Guys]] saga, Chris's belief in multiple dimensions was exploited and his sense of reality hijacked to make changes to many of Chris's characters, concepts and perspective of the real world, with him considering them to be valid. Ideas involving Megan include:

*Megan having the memories of [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Red Heart]], which she earned while in politics.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20190528042422/https://twitter.com/cwcsonichu/status/1015420612494397441</ref>

On 19 [[May 2018]], a full decade after Megan cut off all communications with him, Chris issued a public apology to Megan and her brother and expressed his desire to reopen old wounds by speaking with them:<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/997900592084238336</ref>

{{quotebox|I want to once again humbly apologize to Megan and John Schroeder. I know I did y'all wrong back in the day but time heals all wounds. It would be nice to hear from you with just a simple "hi" or "best of luck". After all of These Years I still need closure.}}

When asked why he would issue this apology publicly when she clearly does not want to be associated with him, Chris responded that he had no choice because she blocked him on Facebook.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/997901813868257281</ref>

On 17 [[October 2018]], Chris declared on [[Twitter]] that if he and Barb received [[Financhu Crisis|enough donations]], he would drive over to Megan's house and take Barb and his "[[Polyamorous marriage|poly-loves]]" with him.<ref>[[October 2018 social media posts#Donation drive to see Megan]]</ref> About nineteen minutes later, he backtracked on his claim after learning from [[The Captain]]<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (The Captain)#Megan's Guns]]</ref> that Megan possesses guns.<ref>[[October 2018 social media posts#Megan's got dat stick]] / https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1052621336751702019</ref>

In [[the Sons of the Miscreants chats]], [[MKRNightVee]] claimed that Chris wanted her to befriend Megan in order to help him resume communication with Megan. MKR declined to get involved out of concern for Megan.

On 4 [[April 2019]], a trailer for the documentary ''[[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]'' was released, which featured brief footage of and narration by a brunette woman, shot from behind, speculated and later confirmed to be Megan herself. [[Geno Samuel]] claimed that Megan actually wanted to physically reunite with Chris, thinking it would be fun; the film's director, Joseph Draft, vetoed this, feeling it would be "too corny and forced".<ref>[[:File:Geno on Draft docu.png]]</ref> [[Naught]] claimed both that Megan later requested that her footage be cut entirely from the film, and that Draft destroyed the hard drive containing the film's only known completed copy.<ref>[[Official CWCki Server chats (Naught)#Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]</ref>

On 20 [[September 2020]], in the [[Watchmen]] discord server, [[The Place]], Chris, while [[Spirit possession|role-playing]] as [[Sonichu]], [[The Place chats - Megan Obsession|described having an emotional breakdown]] over his perceived issues with Megan.
{{quotebox|Mama off and on would also see Megan in her dreams; simply being there. An awkward moment, and Mama’s impulse was to back away and leave her be.

Now, I can move back to last night.

While trying to fall asleep after hitting the hay at about 1:30 am, for Hours, Chris-Core kept on thinking about it and searching further into these emotions and all. This body cried a LOT, and yes, I’ve had to blow its nose.}}
Additionally, Chris further describes his past with Megan, reiterating his desire for a face to face, "heart to heart" chat with her. Near the end of the chat, Chris once again claims that Megan is the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Goddess Red Heart]] of a rare Nintendo console only released in Germany.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/The_Place_chats_-_Megan_Obsession</ref>

On 5 [[November 2020]], in another [[The Place chats - Beneath the Bridge|chat]] in The Place, Chris described the coverage of Megan in the Chris Chan Youtube series ''[[Beneath the Bridge]]'' as a "real mixed bag", admitting that he had been cringing and crying throughout most of it.
{{quotebox|The multi-part vids about Megan were a real mixed bag; more than half of the time, it hit the nerves in the core of this body, some cringe, a bunch of crying, and so on.}}

On 7 [[January 2021]], Megan was asked if her association with Chris and the ensuing status of minor internet celebrity that came with it was ever thought about. She gave a [[Honest Content|True and Honest]] response, saying that she doesn't even think of it.<ref>[[:File:Megan question January 2021.png]]</ref>

On 25 [[March 2021]], in a yet another [[The Place chats - Psychic Detective|chat]] in The Place, Chris, whilst role-playing as a '''psychic detective''' brings up Megan. Having narrowed down the supposed victims to one of two, Chris claims that Megan will need extra defense. [[Kyle]] and [[MKR]] quickly discourage Chris from considering this further, saying that Megan has a gun, and knows how to defend herself.
{{quotebox|I’m not finalized which of the two, but the victim is either in California or Virginia.
And, Megan Schroeder, in Virginia, here, is one who will (also) need some extra defense on her part during this present time as well.}}

==Interviews==
During January 2019, a YouTuber by the moniker BazzBe interviewed Megan over Facebook. BazzBe then put together a video narrating the chat.

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===Transcript===
{{quoteboxyellow|[''autistic sigh''] Oh man. Alright, so, like I said earlier in the video [this is part five of a series, he is apparently referring to an earlier part], I did get the chance to speak to Megan today. Um, hold on [fiddles with screen, which due to being 480px is almost completely unreadable on YouTube] ... uh huh, I was [hiding?] the messages.

So basically, I messaged her, uh, it was accidentally, but I messaged her on her business page because apparently she's in business now and, like, cool. So she asked me to talk to her on her normal page, so I did, I found her, and I asked her: so, I'm sure that you know what I want to talk about, things from past events.

She said: '''Oh yeah, you know, Chris.'''

And I told her, like, I'm very drawn to the story, I've been covering it on YouTube, and I figured it would be cool if I could contact to you so I could see how things, like, how you feel about it nowadays.

She goes: '''Well honestly, I don't follow his antics at all, I've seen a few recent things from someone that alerts me that he's doing things regarding me or whatever.'''

And I asked her, well, were you ever really friends, or did you just feel pity for him?

She said, '''No, I'd say despite his advances, it was a good friendship. He was a lot of fun to converse with. People think that I was using him for things.''' (Which I've heard a lot of people say she was just using him to buy things, but it's been like fifteen years, what would she gain from lying to us?) '''People think that I've been using him for things, but I'd always presented him gifts for his birthday or Christmas. Things from eBay I would either give cash or trade for mangas or DVDs or whatever.'''

I said, did you ever think you would reunite, how do you feel about ... sorry I'm tired ... how do you feel about being a part of all this and having a fanbase?

And she said, '''I didn't know I had fans too.'''

[''Vaguely thirsty grin''] You do! '''Personally I think it's best to stay away and not be involved with him again.''' I said, yeah, you do have a fanbase, and you're definitely the saddest part of the story in my opinion. I do generally believe that, now I know a lot about some of the upcoming stuff that's coming to the fore but I will say Megan was the part where it started going downhill. She was the beginning of the snowball effect, and I think that's when the rock bottom starts to come if you know what I mean, 'cause that was like, the last real friend he had before he fucked it all up.

Ah, ok, where was I at?

'''Comparing him now, I'd say he was definitely more normal during my time with him. That's saying something.'''

How many others have contacted you over this?

'''Oh, I couldn't keep count. It's always been through facebook and as well as Etsy, it's always been half and half condolences and trolls, weens trying to get a reaction or a reply out of me.'''

I told her I was just fascinated by the whole thing and I'm happy to have contacted you and have you take the time to take part in this. And she didn't mind, I was very awesome, I mean, damn that's cool. I was always, oh, I'm sorry, I was wanting to interview her on Discord so I could record our voices talking about it, but honestly I didn't think she would know how to use Discord, [''strange noise''], I'm not saying anything bad, she's a little bit older than me, also, it was like 9:30 in the morning so ... I told her I was sorry to bother her and I understand this might be effecting your life in a negative way because I understand about the artwork and stuff. And she said well, not necessarily, I made a couple of really close friends because of it, I think there's a misconception out there that the whole thing traumatized me which isn't the case at all.

That's good. That's actually something I was curious about. And I asked her [''laughs''], does she still enjoy Sailor Moon and My Little Pony?

She said, '''I have a Sailor Moon collection but I don't actively collect it anymore. It's been both a hobby and an investment. A few dolls sell now on eBay for $500 each. That's for Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokemon, and MLP''' -- My Little Pony [''autistic smirk''] -- '''I sold those off a few years ago. I still play 3DS games and have a few Pikachu plush but I'm not into the whole anime fandom thing.'''

OK, fair enough. I asked her do you still remain in Virginia or did you escape?

She said she's still in Virginia and she's done some traveling around and overseas. So, then she told me that she was going to take her dogs or go feed her animals, and I said that was fine, but then I just went ahead and said hey, let's just postpone the rest of this and we'll just finish up tomorrow or, like, another day. Um ... yeah [''smirks again''] There's so much more I want to find out and I want to see, like, what all she's willing to discuss, but if you're interested in, like, I wouldn't say contacting, because I don't want anyone to really harass this woman, let her live her life.

If you are interested in buying one of her, uh, forest things ... I didn't actually really take the time to look at these, they're kind of cool ... [''weird smile, long pause''] ... but yeah, if you're interested in like, buying one of these, um, I'd say contact her, they look pretty interesting and you know some people have, like, a thing for cute animals, and I think I might just buy one, just to promote, so, thank you Megan, I really appreciate you taking the time to talk to me about this stuff today. Hopefully we can continue this and go a little bit deeper into it, but, alright. Thank you guys for washing, I really appreciate it, drop me a like, subscribe, help me out, and I will see you guys for part six. I can't wait. Goodnight.}}

A lost interview was also conducted at some point during 2019, for the cancelled ''[[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]'' documentary, however, the director got cold feet and refused to release any of the documentary footage. A single line of Megan's from the interview is preserved from the documentary's trailer: "Now, he... he seems like a totally different person to me."

==Gallery==

===Art by Megan===
<center><gallery>
Image:061-MegansSailorMoonCD.jpg|[[Sailor Moon]]
Image:313-MegansSMoon.jpg|Sailor Moon
Image:316-MegagiOriginal.jpg|[[Megagi La Skunk]] ~ The pose in this and the following few drawings are traced from [http://info.sonicretro.org/File:Advance2_sonic.png this artwork] of [[Sonic the Hedgehog]].
Image:318-HoundHowl.jpg|Hound Howl, which Chris reused as "Canino the Houndhowl" in the [[Wedding Comic]].
Image:319-PendingDoom.jpg|An OC based on the [[Pokémon]] Houndoom.
Image:320-Apocolypse.jpg|An OC based on Absol.
Image:321-IceCune.jpg|An OC based on Suicune.
Image:322-houdourstuff.jpg
Image:Megan ace of clubs.JPG|"Ace of Clubs" ~ Megan's original design for [[Patti-chan]], until Chris stole the design.
Image:Megyoshimitsu1.jpg|[[wikipedia:Yoshimitsu|Yoshimitsu]] drawing, made in [[1990s|1996]].<ref name="tekken forces">[https://web.archive.org/web/20091012030656/http://www.tekkenforces.com/fanart/fanartgmegimitsu.php Tekken Forces Fanart Gallery]</ref>
Image:Megyoshimitsu2.jpg|''[[Wikipedia:The Powerpuff Girls|Powerpuff Girls]]''-style Yoshimitsu<ref name="tekken forces"/>
</gallery></center>

===Art of Megan===
<center><gallery>
Image:Sonichu07-P03.jpg
Image:Sonichu07-P04.jpg
Image:Sonichu07-P05.jpg|KINDA OF A [[Dragon Ball|GOKU-GET-EM]] ATTITUDE. :)
Image:129-ChrisChanMegtune.jpg
Image:305-ACMegan.jpg
Image:306-ACMeganBck.jpg
Image:307-MegSch.jpg
Image:311-RedDarkMeggician.jpg
Image:312-PeanutsMegan.jpg|Another [[wikipedia:Schroeder (Peanuts)|Schroeder]].
File:ModNation GalPal.jpg|He just can't let go...
File:Sept13 Imgur 28.jpg|[[LEGO]] voodoo doll of Megan.
File:Lego2 - 24 September 2013.jpeg|He keeps it upside down to torture her.
File:Lego3 - 24 September 2013.jpeg|When he feels REALLY angry, he shakes it.
File:Meganfight 26.jpg|Chris victorious over the evil bitch.

</gallery></center>

===Miscellaneous===
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Image:323-MegansDarkChao.JPG
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2023-07-31T04:11:24Z

Lilacraven: /* Years later */ Added information from The Place chat of 25 March 2021

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{{Protip|Do NOT attempt to contact Megan.

She's moved on with her life and has already published a statement about Chris, making it clear she wants nothing to do with him. Don't drag her back into this.}}
{{Honest}}


{{quote|Ah, For Her I Would travel even A Thousand Miles, just to be with her. Fortunately, she lives only about one hour from my house, and I meet her once a week at a closer-to-home social. This feeling, It was, and still is, so pure and true, it was like as if I was Born to Love Her. When She Smiles, I feel like I'm Walking on Sunshine as I give my replying smile and gaze into her eyes. And her hair is the softest and most warm-tingling. Cloud Nine? I feel like I'm on Ten.|Christian, ''[[Story of My Current Days]]''}}
{{Quote|ED didn't drag my name through the mud but you did.
I don't know, I can't keep disgracing myself and forgiving and forgiving. I have some pride you know. I've forgiven you so many times before it's just getting irritating now. Even I have my limits.|Megan gives her own view<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008]]</ref>}}

{{Infobox Person
| name = Megan Schroeder
| aliases = pearl3 CPU Red Heart
| image = meganwithcwc.png
| title = Megan Schroder
| nationality = [[United States|American]]
| day = 23
| month = 7
| year = 1986
| race = White
| gender = Female
| knownfor = *Being one of Chris's few friends outside of High School. *Being an unwilling candidate in Chris's Love Quest, despite telling Chris numerous times that she was not interested *Being the subject of [[SheCameForCWC.jpg|a horrid drawing]] of Chris fingering her. *Being a scapegoat by Chris and his family for why he's being trolled.
| saga = {{saga|megan|cn}}, {{saga|stackhouse|cn}}, {{saga|ed|cn}}, {{saga|gameplace|cn}}
}}

'''Megan Schroeder''' (born 23 July [[1986]]) is a former [[gal pal]] of [[Christian Weston Chandler]]'s, with whom he had perhaps the closest [[Chris_and_socialization|relationship]] with anybody he's ever had in his life, and previously one [[The Wallflower|of]] [[DoopieDoOver|four]] [[The Suitress|potential]] [[sweetheart|sweethearts]] that Chris met that wasn't a [[Troll]], [[Polyamorous marriage|a fictional character]], or [[Barbara Chandler|his own mother]].

Chris first met Megan in the summer of [[2004]] at [[The GAMe PLACe]], where she and her brother [[John]] were regulars. Megan and Chris became good friends, but Chris, being Chris, completely misread their bond as one that could blossom into a true and honest romance. Megan repeatedly tried to set boundaries that Chris either misunderstood or ignored, which led to increasing tensions between the two. This reached a boiling point during the early days of Chris's feud with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]], in which [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|Chris drew a pornographic image of himself and Megan]].

Following Chris's progressively creepier unwanted advances, and realizing that he drew porn of her, Megan cut off contact with him in early [[2008]]. Since then, Chris has developed an intense and unwarranted [[Chris and anger|grudge]] against her, thanks to misconceptions fed to him by [[Borb|his parents]], and his [[autism|autistic delusions]] about her scheming with [[Michael Snyder]] to have him banned from The GAMe PLACe. Chris's attempted contacts with Megan have dragged on as late as [[2018]]. Thanks to the [[Idea Guys]], he later came to believe that she was a [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Goddess]], much like [[CPU Blue Heart|himself]], but Chris never got to speak with her again.

==Prologue==
{{main|Megan emails, 2005-2006}}
{{See also|Megan emails, Jan-July 2007}}
[[Image:156-CWCMegan1.jpg|thumb|Look at the fear in her eyes...]]

{{quote|During the late summer months, I picked up and started the [[Yu-Gi-Oh]] [[Trading Card Game]] (it was around the time the movie came into theaters). One Saturday at the Game Place (Where I was also going for Pokemon TCG on Fridays), I met Megan and [[John's Custom Gundam|John Schroeder]]. At first I thought they were a couple but then they were just Sister and Brother. Over the months of getting to know Megan, I grew fond of her. Although at that time, and up to now, she wasn't interested in a lovely relationship. I've bided to her wishes and requests. I am truly fond of her, and I hope she will have a change of heart soon. She'll be turning 21 on July 23, 2007.|Christian<ref>[[Yep, I'm on TV :)]]</ref>}}

Megan is a typical ''truly'' [[boyfriend-free girl]], even claiming to be [[Chris_and_sexuality#Asexuality|asexual]]. She had a few eccentricities, which Chris was more than happy to copy and oblige, namely her fondness for ''[[My Little Pony]]'', ''[[Sailor Moon]]'', and using Chris like a debit card because she was too lazy to go on [[eBay]] herself.

Megan and Chris first met at The GAMe PLACe in summer 2004, over a game of ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''. The two apparently struck up a friendship of sorts. They had an obvious connection from the start, since they were both idling their twenties away playing [[card games]] marketed to preteens. It only took [[Third date|a few games]] and a handful of e-mails before Chris saw Megan as his [[sweetheart]]. Megan, however, did not reciprocate this sentiment. It probably didn't help that Megan was getting Chris to buy things for her like a stereotypical wife nagging her husband:

{{quote|Please can you get this video for me? please hurry! thanks!|Megan, [[Megan_Emails,_2005-2006#Megan_wants_a_Tin_Tin_episode|Megan E-mails]]}}
Through the end of 2005 and into [[2006]], Chris obsessed over Megan, writing her [[Sonichu 5|into his comic]], trying to drag her into dates, trying to snuggle, hold her hand, kiss her, and other attempted romantic gestures. This didn't accomplish anything but rousing the ire of Megan, who was uncomfortable with these advances and only saw him as a friend, nothing more. She repeatedly tried to assert her asexuality to Chris, in an effort to prevent his advances. Sadly, this fell on deaf ears, and Chris continued to hound her. Even when Megan eventually resorted to claiming she had a boyfriend, Chris was not deterred.

Unfortunately for her, this was only the beginning...

==Megan Saga==

===Sailor Megtune===
{{Main|Sailor Megtune}}

Megan, like Chris, enjoyed drawing cartoons, and this seems to have caught Chris's eye early in the game:

{{quote|Everytime I see your drawings, I get inspired to want to work more on [[Sonichu (comic)|my comics]].|Christian, [[Megan_Emails,_2005-2006#Chris_wants_to_date_Megan_at_McDonald.27s|Megan E-mails]]}}

In what was a fortunate alignment of his ass-kissing campaign with the series of diary entries that ''Sonichu'' had become, Megan (later [[retconned]] as '''Meg-chan''') soon made her first appearance as [[Sailor Megtune]] in [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu'' #5]] along with [[Megagi La Skunk]], her own furry sidekick. The two are purportedly "[[Sailor Moon|Sailor Soldiers]]" and reveal on the spot that Chris is an old friend of theirs (including Megagi) and thwart the evil [[Jerkop]]s trying to ruin Chris' [[Love Quest]] with Rockin' Hurricane, causing Magic Rocket to [[Team Rocket|blast off again]]. Her influence on the "art" of ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' is apparent in Chris's sudden transition to a more [[anime]] style with ''Sonichu'' #5, most notably in his character's eyes, which became large and shiny.

[[File:Sonichu - Episode 13, Page 27.jpg|thumb|Getting dangerously close to crossing the line...]]

Megan and Chris appeared to chat about comics in their e-mail conversations; Chris [[Ego|critiqued]] some of her story ideas, and ran the plotline for [[Sonichu 6|''Sonichu'' #6]] by her, including a bizarre offer to write in Megan's own imaginary daughter. While Megan probably found the whole thing harmlessly eccentric at first, ''Sonichu'' #5 managed to create some drama pretty quickly upon its release. Megan undoubtedly flipped when she saw her character getting romantic with Chris, as well as being portrayed in a sexualized manner. Chris completely failed to comprehend why she was angry, but did [[retcon]] a couple of pages to tone them down. This did not placate Megan, however.

===Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown===
{{main|Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown}}
{{See also|Megan Emails, Aug-Dec 2007}}

{{quote|In any case, I LOATHE [[Adam Stackhouse|Adam]] and his Sister for STEALING my one chance at taking my Sweet [[Gal pal|Gal-Friend]] to [[Wikipedia:Seattle|Seattle]]; [[Chris and rape|it would have been terriffic]]. I might have even been able to change her outlook on not planning on having children (she and I are both virgins; although I am a [[stress|FRUSTRATED]], High-Functionally [[autism|AUTISTIC]], 25-YEAR OLD [[Virgin with rage|VIRGIN]].|[[PSN Blogs]]}}

Megan spent the summer of [[2007]] in [[Wikipedia:Kentucky|Kentucky]], where her brother was taking a summer course in Mechanics. Undeterred, Chris continued e-mailing her, refusing to back away even for a moment as he ''still'' believed that, deep down inside, Megan truly did love him. Discovering Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown and the prizes for victory, Chris eagerly entered the contest, hoping to win a [[PSP]] and use the trip offered in the contest to win her [[china|heart]]. In the end, as expected, Chris lost (even after extensive cheating), [[Adam Stackhouse]] won, and Megan didn't care. Even when Chris began whining to her and others about how Adam and everyone else except Chris had somehow cheated, Megan didn't care either way. This childish behavior eventually resulted in Megan losing her temper with Chris, reprimanding him for his selfishness and inappropriate behavior. Despite being hurt by her outburst, Chris continued to harass Megan in much the same way as before.

===Sexual Tensions and The End of Megan===
{{Main|ShecameforCWC.JPG}}
{{See also|Megan emails, 2008}}

{{quote|And, by the way, that is not ''Crystal'' whose eyes are censored; that is ''Megan''!|Chris, stating [[Chris and art|the not-so-obvious]] and burning bridges with Megan for good<ref name="secondmessage">[[CWC's Second Message]]</ref>}}

[[File:ShecameforCWC (200803).JPG|thumb|...And the line has officially been crossed.]]

In November 2007, Chris discovered his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page and begin his one-man crusade [[Sonichu 8|against the garbage]]. In the process, he uploaded a number of [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack|pornographic and lewd]] artworks, one of which was [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|a picture of him fingering Megan]] with her eyes obscured. Trolls originally believed that she was [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|his imaginary sister Crystal]], which prompted an outraged Chris to try to deny accusations of [[Chris and sex#Incest|incestuous desires]] by revealing that the image was actually meant to represent Megan.<ref>[[List of Chris's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica#March 2008|Chris confirms Megan's identity on 18 March 2008.]]</ref><ref name="secondmessage"/>

By 12 [[March 2008]], Megan discovered the picture depicting her and demanded that it be removed immediately. Chris attempted to do so, but found himself blocked at every turn. His edits were quickly reverted, or even worse, compounded, as he tried to upload other versions of the picture with the face cropped out or obscured. On 21 [[April 2008]] Megan wrote an email to Chris saying she was not comfortable being around him anymore,<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Megan can't trust Chris anymore]]</ref> thus putting an end to their friendship.

Throughout the fiasco, Chris brashly attempted to paint himself as a greater victim than Megan, initially even assuming that she didn't understand what was going on in the picture. He later admitted that he created the image in part to suppress the occasional impulse to '''[[rape]] her''', and that trying to assert that what she was going through just ''being'' in the picture and learning what he could have done was ''nothing'' compared to the misery of the [[troll]]ing he was enduring.<ref>[[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris_continues_bothering_her_about_ED]]</ref>

Evidence suggests that Megan was distancing herself from Chris even before she discovered the awful drawing. Comments by former GAMe PLACe patrons [[Daniel Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] indicate that Megan was already avoiding Chris before she found out ShecameforCWC.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Initial post|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]: "Megan would usually stand/hide behind me and Lucas to avoid [Chris], '''especially after''' the drawings of her got leaked [emphasis added]." This comment suggests that Megan was avoiding Chris before ShecameforCWC came to her attention. In their [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Chris and Megan|discussion of Megan]], Mimms and Lucas seem to attribute Chris's groping as the main factor behind the deterioration of his relationship with her, while giving little weight to ShecameforCWC.</ref> Chris himself has partially confirmed this account on the [[CWCipedia]].<ref>[[CWCipedia]] on [https://archive.vn/rB99e Megan]: "When I started getting too close, [Megan] started to feel uncomfortable, My Bad. Then she distanced herself from me, saw other dudes, including a possible homosexual."</ref> It might very well be that ShecameforCWC was the last step in euthanizing a dying relationship, rather than killing a vibrant and living one.

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==Aftermath==
{{quote|Too bad I was never just that too all into him.|Cartoon Megan, "I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC"}}

{{quote|Megan... WHY?!|Christian,
"I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC"}}

Despite Megan telling him she was no longer comfortable being in his presence, Chris was not willing to give up on her. On 11 [[2008#June|June 2008]], Chris sent an email to a person named Tyler Wane, asking Tyler to deliver Megan the birthday gift Chris bought for her (a German-English dictionary). Chris said he could not deliver her the gift himself due to being "forced into hiatus from the Pokemon League by that S.O.B. [[Michael Snyder|Mike]]". Tyler in response suggested to Chris to arrange meeting with Megan outside [[The GAMe PLACe]].<ref><[[Chris emails 2008#June]]</ref>

Megan surfaced again in Chris's thoughts in [[July 2009]], first in the [[CWC "Boyfriend"]] video, and then in the subsequent update, [[I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC]]. Chris also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCo72hJ-SAg reposted] the Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown entry, though this version is slightly different from the ones frequently seen in latter days: After "...my friend Megan!", Chris inserted a short break with a photo of him and Megan, with a lovely heart frame. Either this is the original version before Chris tried to clean up his image, or a brand new version with new improved references to the long-lost love.

On 26 [[March 2009]], he released a [[CWC Major Update 26 March 2009 |Captain's Log]] where he told everyone to [[Chris and Hypocrisy|"leave her alone"]] because she was going through [[stress]] from the [[trolls]], and threatened to stop drawing the comic if they didn't. At the beginning of the video Chris claims that he was recently contacted by Megan, though it was most likely a troll posing as her seeing as she had cut off all ties with him.

On 12 [[August 2009]], he dedicated a song to Megan in one of his [[KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special]] videos, where the first sign that he'd convinced himself that she'd told him "I Love You" comes up (and he remains relatively consistent when speaking of her in acting as though this actually happened).

{{quote|Coming up next at #7, we got another long-distance dedication, to the old [[gal-pal]] of mine that I almost had a ra- I had meant to be- I had her "I love you" before I got kicked out, Megan Schroeder, her, from her favorite, this is from her favorite h-artist, Yngwie Malmsteen.|Christian, "[[KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special]]"}}

In 2010, he created a [[:File:ModNation GalPal.jpg|model of Megan]] for ''[[ModNation Racers]]'' (named "Gal Pal"), showing that he still couldn't let go.

=== Chris's version of events ===
On 16 [[May 2010]], the [[CWCipedia]]'s new fan manager Daria Camacho created a page for Megan, using the link on Chris's page of [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|gal-pals and sweethearts]]. When Chris discovered it, he erased all of Daria's text and wrote his own version. The abridged version of events he presents is much shorter than his gigantic [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|rant on The Wallflower]], probably because the events of the Megan Saga are beginning to fade from his memory.

{{quotebox|If you REALLY MUST KNOW...

Megan and I first met at a Yu-Gi-Oh Tournament at The G&H Place, back when it was still in the Downtown Mall. It was around the time the Y.G.O. Movie debuted in theaters. She and I, we talked, hung out and became really good friends.

"I DID have lovey-dovey feelings for her, and I still care about her as a friend. I did her a number of favors by getting her this and that off of eBay, then she would reimburse me the cost of each item.

When I started getting too close, she started to feel uncomfortable, My Bad. Then she distanced herself from me, saw other dudes, including a possible [[homos]]exual.

I drew that drawing of her and me that is unfortunately popular among everyone who tends to haze me for TWO REASONS. Firstly, because of My Own Wishful Thinking. And second a tool in a lame attempt to overcrowd the E.D. page against me with Bu**C*** with my own "information" to shut it down.

Ever since, she totally spaced herself from me, like as if she had put a restraining order against, which she did not. And as I was being forced off the Place premesis the last day I was there, she stood by and watched in shock. She could have spoken up for me, but she did not.

I have lost communication with Megan since then.}}

In the months and years after his "breakup" with Megan, Chris came to try and act as if he'd gotten over her. His [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|CWCipedia page]] on [[The Wallflower]], for instance, claimed "I had LOOOOOONG moved on from Megan."

However, a lingering attachment betrayed itself on occasion. The archive of his [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|female acquaintances]] on the CWCipedia noted, "I still miss her sometimes." In an [[Jackie_e-mails_Part_2#Chris_lies_about_The_Game_Place|e-mail to Jackie]] from April 2010, when he recounted having his picture taken at The GAMe PLACe, Chris said, "I was in a state of shock from seeing Megan and (her short-lived romance) Christopher MAKING OUT. '''That Should Have Been Me.'''"

==The Blame Game==

=== Origins ===
[[File:Megan Schroeder - 2013 September.jpeg|thumb|Megan, years later, still recovering from her ordeal. Out of frame: [[JERKS|JERK]].]]
The [[Matthew Noble call]] of August 2010 revealed that [[Bob]] and [[Barbara]] disliked and distrusted Megan, believing that she conspired with Michael Snyder and "some [[homos]]exual[s]" to get Chris banned from The GAMe PLACe. Barbara also mentions how Megan "lied" about something, suggesting that she believes Megan to be a troll.

It is possible that this belief originated with Chris, as in his correspondence with [[Katie Bay]], he lists Megan as a "possible troll".<ref>[[Katie_Bay_E-mails_2#26 July]]</ref> His reasoning was typical Chris - she had a vagina and didn't want to give him access to it. He also appears to have [[Autism|confused her with another white female brunette]] that placed a sign on his lawn on [[Halloween]] [[2008]].

=== Chris Doxes Megan ===

A series of leaked Facebook postings beginning in [[February 2012]] revealed Chris' ever-growing, pathological, and extreme hatred for Megan. His animosity for Megan supposedly grew much more vitriolic after buying into his parents' [[Chris and reality|completely baseless]] belief that Megan was responsible for the "Hate and Smear Campaign" against Chris:

{{quote|EVERYONE, I have most urgent news. It is Final in My Mind, and from my mother as an eye and ear witness of her consorting with [[Michael Snyder]] LONG Before Novembef, [[2007]]; Megan Schroeder IS the SEED of the Whole Hate and Smear Campaign Against Me on the [[Internet]]. If any of you all Know where she is, or have clues of her, or her brother...current wherabouts, Please Inform Me on THIS WALL, Posthaste. She is Needed Brought to me, my mother and [[Rob Bell|our attorney]], for Great Questioning, and a Huge Piece of my mind. Thank You, Christian W. Chandler|Chris, Facebook, [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Urgent news|February 18, 2012]]}}

In the following days, Chris posted her contact information in hopes that his friends would troll her. Thankfully, this effort was not successful.

[[File:Fbp10.png|thumb|Chris's moronic attempt at trolling back Megan. He exhibits a belief that if you simply dox people online, they get trolled back, not realizing the large number of reasons why this only happened to him.]]

On 4 April [[2013]], Chris denounced The GAMe PLACe and called for Megan to be "jailed and beaten up", describing her as a "vile, wicked, traitorous bitch"<ref>[[April 2013 Facebook posts#Leaving the Game Place behind]]</ref>—a rare display of hatred upon a woman not seen from Chris since [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. Judging by a 20 July 2013 Facebook post, Chris seems to be holding Schroeder, along with [[Michael Snyder|Snyder]], to be the main culprit behind the various misfortunes he had over the years.<ref>[[July 2013 Facebook Posts#Spring Breakers]]</ref>

=== Megagi La Scapegoat ===

Chris's vitriol for Megan continues almost six years after his ban from [[The GAMe PLACe]], and he has even resorted to using Megan as a scapegoat for everything bad that happens to him even if he is blatantly responsible. In the aftermath of a permaban from [[Wal-Mart]] on the weekend of 7 September 2013 for having vandalized an [[Xbox]] One display, Chris flew into an incoherent rage and began blaming Megan for both his Wal-mart and GAMe PLACe bans:

{{quote|If it had not been for Mr. "[[Manajerk]]", Megan Schroeder, and their Internet Troll/Cyber-Bully Breeding and Meeting Ground, Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys, My Family and I would not have had go through all of the emotionally depressing, and Financial Downfall to [[Financhu Crisis|the depths of Greatly Poor and Just Getting By!]] The Manajerk has drained us financially, thinking we are freaking rich. And Megan has robbed me emotionally, started all of the Hate Against Me on the freaking Internet, Never financially paid me back for ALL of the material favors I bought for her off of eBay, and I WANT MY UNCUT "SAILOR MOON' DVDS FROM SEASONS "R" TO "SAILOR STAR" THAT GERMAN WARFARE BITCH CONNED FROM ME RETURNED TO ME!!!|Chris, Facebook, September 7, 2013}}

[[File:Sept13 Imgur 28.jpg|thumb|left|Megan's fate as a Lego voodoo doll. Notice her goth style clothing.]]
On 24 September 2013, Chris claimed in a Facebook post to have received an email from Daniel Mimms about Megan's current whereabouts. He now classes her with the Witch ([[Mary Lee Walsh]]) and the Bastard ([[Michael Snyder]]), and makes three [[Lego]] minifigs of them and shakes them together as a sort of punishment.<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Voodoo-Wise]]</ref><ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Yep, the Bitch has not changed a thing...]]</ref> Of course, the notion that Chris can perform [[Wikipedia:Sympathetic magic|sympathetic magic]] to harm his enemies is [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|befitting]] with his [[Chris and reality|other delusions]]. Chris continued to use this Lego minifigure of Megan as a totem to relieve his anger for her, and it appeared a month later "in detention" at [[CWC Lego Manchester High School Oct 18 2013|Lego Manchester High]].

On 3 October 2013, Chris posted another [[October 2013 Facebook Posts#Megagi La Skunk agrees that you should have never been born|rambling tirade directed at Megan]] to Facebook. This time, Chris claimed that [[Megagi La Skunk]], Megan's cartoon character that she probably doesn't even remember making, told him that she is "deeply distrustful" and agrees with Chris that Megan should have never been born. Additionally, as if she would even care, Megan's [[Sailor Megtune]] "powers" were "revoked" by Chris. On top of reiterating the previous "wrongdoings" by Megan, Chris has proven nothing at all, except perhaps that he suffers from [[Chris and reality|some form of]] [[Chris and anger|mental illness.]]

{{quote|
You ungrateful bitch. Quit hiding behind the Anons, Trolls, PLace People and every Damned Person who you have deceived into siding with you.

By the way, I have checked with Megagi La Skunk; she feels deep distrust in you. We mutually agree that you should have never been born, even if it meant she would never exist. Also, your Sailor Megtune powers; I created them for you; I have taken them away from you! Usagi and the Sailor Scouts would have been most ashamed of you.

...And by the way, I pray you have been having Really Bad Luck, Feeling Paranoid of EVERYONE, and Shakingly Stressed, because I continue to leave your minifigure upside-down and shaken with the Witch and the Bastard! And I have been feeling the very same grave emotions myself for the Six Long Years, you damn, dirty bitch!|Chris, Facebook, October 3, 2013}}

Chris ended his first rant with a comment reading "NOBODY ELSE COMMENT THIS POST!!!", possibly because he's tired of having his atrocious behavior called out by even the most ass-patting of his friends. The following day, Chris focused all his blame like a laser beam on Megan, insisting that she is responsible for the [[CWCki]], virtually all of his [[List of places that have banned Chris|bans]], the "theft" of his [[Sailor Moon]] DVDs ''yet again'', and astonishingly, even the fact that he lacks a sweetheart. That's right: not only is Megan the one who's responsible for everything Chris inflicted on himself, but also Chris will ''only'' forgive Megan after he gets [[Chris and sex#Prostitution|unpaid]] [[china]] he feels entitled to.

{{quote|I will only forgive Megan, and remove all curses upon her, when she apologizes to me In Person and Face To Face, when the Cwcki, its forum, and Everything Else Against me on the Freaking Internet is GONE, GONE, GONE, when I am NOT BANNED FROM ANYWHERE, when I get my original Uncut Sailor Moon DVDs returned to me, when my Good Name is Cleared of all of the bad, AND when I have my female Sweetheart for Forever. And I am Not Stepping Down beforehand.|Chris, Facebook, October 4, 2013, 10:09am}}

=== Megan, Queen of the Trolls ===

Roughly two hours later, Chris posted another Facebook message. While seemingly intending to explain the methodology of Megan's master [[troll]] scheme, to everyone else it actually reads more like valid condemnations of Chris' obnoxious behavior by his peers and authority figures. Finally, Chris re-iterated his desire not to hear any criticism from his friends, instructing others not to comment on his post and challenging Megan to a face-to-face meeting. Whether Megan cares enough to challenge, in-person, a delusional 31-year old who lives with his [[Barb|mother]] remains yet to be seen.

{{quote|Megan, I KNOW you and the PLace employee continuously conversed and conspired against me. "Christian is so weird. " "Tell me about it." "He hangs onto me, touching me, clinging onto my every word. Ugh." "I can not stand his shouting outbursts that echos in my head after both of those times he stressed out." "I want to just kill him; destroy his goody-two-shoes nature, soul, heart and all that shit my mashed potato grenade could shatter, but leave his body in tact, so I'm not committed for murder." "I just want to ban him from "MY" store forever." "I got it! Let's get an embarrassing photo of him, post it online, and put him to shame forever!" "Mimms and Lucas are tech freaks! Let's enlist them." "Yeah! Chris will be banned from "YOUR" store based on the hyped up mal online reputation; he will be out of my life forever. Pending possible nightmares and night terrors to come, but who the fuck cares; his Autistic, Fragile mind will shatter along with his heart after I kiss my homosexual fake boyfriend in front of him!" ""HA HA HA HA HA AHA HA HA!!!!!""

I am onto your game that took away six years of my life and destroyed me; you either pay me what you owe, or I continue to curse and haunt you with my father at my side.|Chris, Facebook, October 4, 2013, 12:44pm}}

Chris later deleted the two posts prior to this one; a few hours later, he deleted this one as well.

In late 2020, Chris [[Spirit possession|(while "possessed" by Sonichu)]] revealed that he no longer believed Megan to be a troll, but that "[Chris] was to blame for all of the very stupid impulses and mistakes that ended that friendship."<ref>[[Discord Q&A 11#Chris's Closest Friend]]</ref> This seeming forgiveness may have been spurred on by his belief that Megan is a CPU goddess. It also shows [[Chris and his ego#Persecution complex|Chris's self-serving memory]] in action, considering that she was justified to feel uncomfortable at his unwanted advances on her and understandably creeped out by ShecameforCWC.JPG.

==Years later==
{{quote|I just say let her, wherever she is, live her life, and I'll just stay here, liv- living mine. It's all done and over with.|Chris}}

On 26 January 2016, in the [[CatKnight Interview 2|second CatKnight interview]], Sir Arthur Spatchcock brought up the topic of Megan and the [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Urgent news|grudge]] [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Pissed off|Chris]] [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Damn You|had]] [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Address|against]] [[October 2013 Facebook Posts#GAMe PLACe revelations|her]]. Chris claims that he has finally gotten over that grudge, wishing for her to be left alone to live her own life.

In February 2017, Chris looked up and browsed through Megan's Facebook account,<ref>[[February 2017 Facebook Posts#Found Megan's Facebook]]</ref> sharing one of her drawings to his own account. When asked by [[Kim Wilson]] if they were friends again, Chris responded:

{{quotebox|Not quite; I just gone through my past and recent sent friend requests, found Megan Schroeder, and I liked her cover photo; it's cute. She has a few cute dogs too. At least, she's doing okay; as far as I can tell.}}

The act of searching for his ex-[[gal pal]] came just four days after Chris posted about his feelings of nostalgia for his "friends" from [[Manchester High]].

Megan was asked about Chris on her Etsy page on July 1 2017. This was her response: <ref>https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aj5gd-lUeHJyhUknNI2IkmGQC1eq</ref>

{{quotebox|'''Hi'''

Thank you very much! Unfortunately with Chris he never learns from his mistakes, he refuses to accept any accountability. When I heard about the house fire, I thought maybe it was a blessing in disguise and he would start a new better life with a clean slate. But from whatI hear, no, he still begs for money and spends it all on legos...

Well thanks for the good wishes, I really appreciate that!}}

On 9 [[October 2017]], Chris once again looked up Megan's Facebook for her online store and left a comment on it:<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_Facebook_posts#Complimenting_Megan_Schroeder</ref>

{{quotebox|I just wanted to tell you I like your craft and are. You have become a lot more talented over the years. Many blessing to you and your family. 🌸}}

The post was later removed.

During the [[Idea Guys]] saga, Chris's belief in multiple dimensions was exploited and his sense of reality hijacked to make changes to many of Chris's characters, concepts and perspective of the real world, with him considering them to be valid. Ideas involving Megan include:

*Megan having the memories of [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Red Heart]], which she earned while in politics.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20190528042422/https://twitter.com/cwcsonichu/status/1015420612494397441</ref>

On 19 [[May 2018]], a full decade after Megan cut off all communications with him, Chris issued a public apology to Megan and her brother and expressed his desire to reopen old wounds by speaking with them:<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/997900592084238336</ref>

{{quotebox|I want to once again humbly apologize to Megan and John Schroeder. I know I did y'all wrong back in the day but time heals all wounds. It would be nice to hear from you with just a simple "hi" or "best of luck". After all of These Years I still need closure.}}

When asked why he would issue this apology publicly when she clearly does not want to be associated with him, Chris responded that he had no choice because she blocked him on Facebook.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/997901813868257281</ref>

On 17 [[October 2018]], Chris declared on [[Twitter]] that if he and Barb received [[Financhu Crisis|enough donations]], he would drive over to Megan's house and take Barb and his "[[Polyamorous marriage|poly-loves]]" with him.<ref>[[October 2018 social media posts#Donation drive to see Megan]]</ref> About nineteen minutes later, he backtracked on his claim after learning from [[The Captain]]<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (The Captain)#Megan's Guns]]</ref> that Megan possesses guns.<ref>[[October 2018 social media posts#Megan's got dat stick]] / https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1052621336751702019</ref>

In [[the Sons of the Miscreants chats]], [[MKRNightVee]] claimed that Chris wanted her to befriend Megan in order to help him resume communication with Megan. MKR declined to get involved out of concern for Megan.

On 4 [[April 2019]], a trailer for the documentary ''[[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]'' was released, which featured brief footage of and narration by a brunette woman, shot from behind, speculated and later confirmed to be Megan herself. [[Geno Samuel]] claimed that Megan actually wanted to physically reunite with Chris, thinking it would be fun; the film's director, Joseph Draft, vetoed this, feeling it would be "too corny and forced".<ref>[[:File:Geno on Draft docu.png]]</ref> [[Naught]] claimed both that Megan later requested that her footage be cut entirely from the film, and that Draft destroyed the hard drive containing the film's only known completed copy.<ref>[[Official CWCki Server chats (Naught)#Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]</ref>

On 20 [[September 2020]], in the [[Watchmen]] discord server, [[The Place]], Chris, while [[Spirit possession|role-playing]] as [[Sonichu]], [[The Place chats - Megan Obsession|described having an emotional breakdown]] over his perceived issues with Megan.
{{quotebox|Mama off and on would also see Megan in her dreams; simply being there. An awkward moment, and Mama’s impulse was to back away and leave her be.

Now, I can move back to last night.

While trying to fall asleep after hitting the hay at about 1:30 am, for Hours, Chris-Core kept on thinking about it and searching further into these emotions and all. This body cried a LOT, and yes, I’ve had to blow its nose.}}
Additionally, Chris further describes his past with Megan, reiterating his desire for a face to face, "heart to heart" chat with her. Near the end of the chat, Chris once again claims that Megan is the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Goddess Red Heart]] of a rare Nintendo console only released in Germany.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/The_Place_chats_-_Megan_Obsession</ref>

On 5 [[November 2020]], in another [[The Place chats - Beneath the Bridge|chat]] in The Place, Chris described the coverage of Megan in the Chris Chan Youtube series ''[[Beneath the Bridge]]'' as a "real mixed bag", admitting that he had been cringing and crying throughout most of it.
{{quotebox|The multi-part vids about Megan were a real mixed bag; more than half of the time, it hit the nerves in the core of this body, some cringe, a bunch of crying, and so on.}}

On 7 [[January 2021]], Megan was asked if her association with Chris and the ensuing status of minor internet celebrity that came with it was ever thought about. She gave a [[Honest Content|True and Honest]] response, saying that she doesn't even think of it.<ref>[[:File:Megan question January 2021.png]]</ref>

In a series of [[The Place chats - Psychic Detective|chats]] between 22-25 [[March 2021]] Chris, whilst role-playing as a '''psychic detective''' brings up Megan. In the chat that takes place on the 25th of March, Chris, having narrowed down the supposed victims to one of two, claims that Megan will need extra defense. [[Kyle]] and [[MKR]] quickly discourage Chris from considering this further, saying that Megan has a gun, and knows how to defend herself.
{{quotebox|I’m not finalized which of the two, but the victim is either in California or Virginia.
And, Megan Schroeder, in Virginia, here, is one who will (also) need some extra defense on her part during this present time as well.}}

==Interviews==
During January 2019, a YouTuber by the moniker BazzBe interviewed Megan over Facebook. BazzBe then put together a video narrating the chat.

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===Transcript===
{{quoteboxyellow|[''autistic sigh''] Oh man. Alright, so, like I said earlier in the video [this is part five of a series, he is apparently referring to an earlier part], I did get the chance to speak to Megan today. Um, hold on [fiddles with screen, which due to being 480px is almost completely unreadable on YouTube] ... uh huh, I was [hiding?] the messages.

So basically, I messaged her, uh, it was accidentally, but I messaged her on her business page because apparently she's in business now and, like, cool. So she asked me to talk to her on her normal page, so I did, I found her, and I asked her: so, I'm sure that you know what I want to talk about, things from past events.

She said: '''Oh yeah, you know, Chris.'''

And I told her, like, I'm very drawn to the story, I've been covering it on YouTube, and I figured it would be cool if I could contact to you so I could see how things, like, how you feel about it nowadays.

She goes: '''Well honestly, I don't follow his antics at all, I've seen a few recent things from someone that alerts me that he's doing things regarding me or whatever.'''

And I asked her, well, were you ever really friends, or did you just feel pity for him?

She said, '''No, I'd say despite his advances, it was a good friendship. He was a lot of fun to converse with. People think that I was using him for things.''' (Which I've heard a lot of people say she was just using him to buy things, but it's been like fifteen years, what would she gain from lying to us?) '''People think that I've been using him for things, but I'd always presented him gifts for his birthday or Christmas. Things from eBay I would either give cash or trade for mangas or DVDs or whatever.'''

I said, did you ever think you would reunite, how do you feel about ... sorry I'm tired ... how do you feel about being a part of all this and having a fanbase?

And she said, '''I didn't know I had fans too.'''

[''Vaguely thirsty grin''] You do! '''Personally I think it's best to stay away and not be involved with him again.''' I said, yeah, you do have a fanbase, and you're definitely the saddest part of the story in my opinion. I do generally believe that, now I know a lot about some of the upcoming stuff that's coming to the fore but I will say Megan was the part where it started going downhill. She was the beginning of the snowball effect, and I think that's when the rock bottom starts to come if you know what I mean, 'cause that was like, the last real friend he had before he fucked it all up.

Ah, ok, where was I at?

'''Comparing him now, I'd say he was definitely more normal during my time with him. That's saying something.'''

How many others have contacted you over this?

'''Oh, I couldn't keep count. It's always been through facebook and as well as Etsy, it's always been half and half condolences and trolls, weens trying to get a reaction or a reply out of me.'''

I told her I was just fascinated by the whole thing and I'm happy to have contacted you and have you take the time to take part in this. And she didn't mind, I was very awesome, I mean, damn that's cool. I was always, oh, I'm sorry, I was wanting to interview her on Discord so I could record our voices talking about it, but honestly I didn't think she would know how to use Discord, [''strange noise''], I'm not saying anything bad, she's a little bit older than me, also, it was like 9:30 in the morning so ... I told her I was sorry to bother her and I understand this might be effecting your life in a negative way because I understand about the artwork and stuff. And she said well, not necessarily, I made a couple of really close friends because of it, I think there's a misconception out there that the whole thing traumatized me which isn't the case at all.

That's good. That's actually something I was curious about. And I asked her [''laughs''], does she still enjoy Sailor Moon and My Little Pony?

She said, '''I have a Sailor Moon collection but I don't actively collect it anymore. It's been both a hobby and an investment. A few dolls sell now on eBay for $500 each. That's for Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokemon, and MLP''' -- My Little Pony [''autistic smirk''] -- '''I sold those off a few years ago. I still play 3DS games and have a few Pikachu plush but I'm not into the whole anime fandom thing.'''

OK, fair enough. I asked her do you still remain in Virginia or did you escape?

She said she's still in Virginia and she's done some traveling around and overseas. So, then she told me that she was going to take her dogs or go feed her animals, and I said that was fine, but then I just went ahead and said hey, let's just postpone the rest of this and we'll just finish up tomorrow or, like, another day. Um ... yeah [''smirks again''] There's so much more I want to find out and I want to see, like, what all she's willing to discuss, but if you're interested in, like, I wouldn't say contacting, because I don't want anyone to really harass this woman, let her live her life.

If you are interested in buying one of her, uh, forest things ... I didn't actually really take the time to look at these, they're kind of cool ... [''weird smile, long pause''] ... but yeah, if you're interested in like, buying one of these, um, I'd say contact her, they look pretty interesting and you know some people have, like, a thing for cute animals, and I think I might just buy one, just to promote, so, thank you Megan, I really appreciate you taking the time to talk to me about this stuff today. Hopefully we can continue this and go a little bit deeper into it, but, alright. Thank you guys for washing, I really appreciate it, drop me a like, subscribe, help me out, and I will see you guys for part six. I can't wait. Goodnight.}}

A lost interview was also conducted at some point during 2019, for the cancelled ''[[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]'' documentary, however, the director got cold feet and refused to release any of the documentary footage. A single line of Megan's from the interview is preserved from the documentary's trailer: "Now, he... he seems like a totally different person to me."

==Gallery==

===Art by Megan===
<center><gallery>
Image:061-MegansSailorMoonCD.jpg|[[Sailor Moon]]
Image:313-MegansSMoon.jpg|Sailor Moon
Image:316-MegagiOriginal.jpg|[[Megagi La Skunk]] ~ The pose in this and the following few drawings are traced from [http://info.sonicretro.org/File:Advance2_sonic.png this artwork] of [[Sonic the Hedgehog]].
Image:318-HoundHowl.jpg|Hound Howl, which Chris reused as "Canino the Houndhowl" in the [[Wedding Comic]].
Image:319-PendingDoom.jpg|An OC based on the [[Pokémon]] Houndoom.
Image:320-Apocolypse.jpg|An OC based on Absol.
Image:321-IceCune.jpg|An OC based on Suicune.
Image:322-houdourstuff.jpg
Image:Megan ace of clubs.JPG|"Ace of Clubs" ~ Megan's original design for [[Patti-chan]], until Chris stole the design.
Image:Megyoshimitsu1.jpg|[[wikipedia:Yoshimitsu|Yoshimitsu]] drawing, made in [[1990s|1996]].<ref name="tekken forces">[https://web.archive.org/web/20091012030656/http://www.tekkenforces.com/fanart/fanartgmegimitsu.php Tekken Forces Fanart Gallery]</ref>
Image:Megyoshimitsu2.jpg|''[[Wikipedia:The Powerpuff Girls|Powerpuff Girls]]''-style Yoshimitsu<ref name="tekken forces"/>
</gallery></center>

===Art of Megan===
<center><gallery>
Image:Sonichu07-P03.jpg
Image:Sonichu07-P04.jpg
Image:Sonichu07-P05.jpg|KINDA OF A [[Dragon Ball|GOKU-GET-EM]] ATTITUDE. :)
Image:129-ChrisChanMegtune.jpg
Image:305-ACMegan.jpg
Image:306-ACMeganBck.jpg
Image:307-MegSch.jpg
Image:311-RedDarkMeggician.jpg
Image:312-PeanutsMegan.jpg|Another [[wikipedia:Schroeder (Peanuts)|Schroeder]].
File:ModNation GalPal.jpg|He just can't let go...
File:Sept13 Imgur 28.jpg|[[LEGO]] voodoo doll of Megan.
File:Lego2 - 24 September 2013.jpeg|He keeps it upside down to torture her.
File:Lego3 - 24 September 2013.jpeg|When he feels REALLY angry, he shakes it.
File:Meganfight 26.jpg|Chris victorious over the evil bitch.

</gallery></center>

===Miscellaneous===
<center><gallery>
Image:323-MegansDarkChao.JPG
</gallery></center>

==References==
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{{MeganSaga}}
{{StackhouseSaga}}
{{EDSaga}}
{{GamePlaceSaga}}
{{People}}
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Megan Schroeder

2023-07-31T03:59:49Z

Lilacraven: /* Years later */ Added information from The Place chat of 5 November 2020

{{Needs Updating|[[The Place chats - Megan Obsession]]|[[The Place chats - Beneath the Bridge‎]]|[[The Place chats - Psychic Detective]]}}
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{{Protip|Do NOT attempt to contact Megan.

She's moved on with her life and has already published a statement about Chris, making it clear she wants nothing to do with him. Don't drag her back into this.}}
{{Honest}}


{{quote|Ah, For Her I Would travel even A Thousand Miles, just to be with her. Fortunately, she lives only about one hour from my house, and I meet her once a week at a closer-to-home social. This feeling, It was, and still is, so pure and true, it was like as if I was Born to Love Her. When She Smiles, I feel like I'm Walking on Sunshine as I give my replying smile and gaze into her eyes. And her hair is the softest and most warm-tingling. Cloud Nine? I feel like I'm on Ten.|Christian, ''[[Story of My Current Days]]''}}
{{Quote|ED didn't drag my name through the mud but you did.
I don't know, I can't keep disgracing myself and forgiving and forgiving. I have some pride you know. I've forgiven you so many times before it's just getting irritating now. Even I have my limits.|Megan gives her own view<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008]]</ref>}}

{{Infobox Person
| name = Megan Schroeder
| aliases = pearl3 CPU Red Heart
| image = meganwithcwc.png
| title = Megan Schroder
| nationality = [[United States|American]]
| day = 23
| month = 7
| year = 1986
| race = White
| gender = Female
| knownfor = *Being one of Chris's few friends outside of High School. *Being an unwilling candidate in Chris's Love Quest, despite telling Chris numerous times that she was not interested *Being the subject of [[SheCameForCWC.jpg|a horrid drawing]] of Chris fingering her. *Being a scapegoat by Chris and his family for why he's being trolled.
| saga = {{saga|megan|cn}}, {{saga|stackhouse|cn}}, {{saga|ed|cn}}, {{saga|gameplace|cn}}
}}

'''Megan Schroeder''' (born 23 July [[1986]]) is a former [[gal pal]] of [[Christian Weston Chandler]]'s, with whom he had perhaps the closest [[Chris_and_socialization|relationship]] with anybody he's ever had in his life, and previously one [[The Wallflower|of]] [[DoopieDoOver|four]] [[The Suitress|potential]] [[sweetheart|sweethearts]] that Chris met that wasn't a [[Troll]], [[Polyamorous marriage|a fictional character]], or [[Barbara Chandler|his own mother]].

Chris first met Megan in the summer of [[2004]] at [[The GAMe PLACe]], where she and her brother [[John]] were regulars. Megan and Chris became good friends, but Chris, being Chris, completely misread their bond as one that could blossom into a true and honest romance. Megan repeatedly tried to set boundaries that Chris either misunderstood or ignored, which led to increasing tensions between the two. This reached a boiling point during the early days of Chris's feud with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]], in which [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|Chris drew a pornographic image of himself and Megan]].

Following Chris's progressively creepier unwanted advances, and realizing that he drew porn of her, Megan cut off contact with him in early [[2008]]. Since then, Chris has developed an intense and unwarranted [[Chris and anger|grudge]] against her, thanks to misconceptions fed to him by [[Borb|his parents]], and his [[autism|autistic delusions]] about her scheming with [[Michael Snyder]] to have him banned from The GAMe PLACe. Chris's attempted contacts with Megan have dragged on as late as [[2018]]. Thanks to the [[Idea Guys]], he later came to believe that she was a [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Goddess]], much like [[CPU Blue Heart|himself]], but Chris never got to speak with her again.

==Prologue==
{{main|Megan emails, 2005-2006}}
{{See also|Megan emails, Jan-July 2007}}
[[Image:156-CWCMegan1.jpg|thumb|Look at the fear in her eyes...]]

{{quote|During the late summer months, I picked up and started the [[Yu-Gi-Oh]] [[Trading Card Game]] (it was around the time the movie came into theaters). One Saturday at the Game Place (Where I was also going for Pokemon TCG on Fridays), I met Megan and [[John's Custom Gundam|John Schroeder]]. At first I thought they were a couple but then they were just Sister and Brother. Over the months of getting to know Megan, I grew fond of her. Although at that time, and up to now, she wasn't interested in a lovely relationship. I've bided to her wishes and requests. I am truly fond of her, and I hope she will have a change of heart soon. She'll be turning 21 on July 23, 2007.|Christian<ref>[[Yep, I'm on TV :)]]</ref>}}

Megan is a typical ''truly'' [[boyfriend-free girl]], even claiming to be [[Chris_and_sexuality#Asexuality|asexual]]. She had a few eccentricities, which Chris was more than happy to copy and oblige, namely her fondness for ''[[My Little Pony]]'', ''[[Sailor Moon]]'', and using Chris like a debit card because she was too lazy to go on [[eBay]] herself.

Megan and Chris first met at The GAMe PLACe in summer 2004, over a game of ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''. The two apparently struck up a friendship of sorts. They had an obvious connection from the start, since they were both idling their twenties away playing [[card games]] marketed to preteens. It only took [[Third date|a few games]] and a handful of e-mails before Chris saw Megan as his [[sweetheart]]. Megan, however, did not reciprocate this sentiment. It probably didn't help that Megan was getting Chris to buy things for her like a stereotypical wife nagging her husband:

{{quote|Please can you get this video for me? please hurry! thanks!|Megan, [[Megan_Emails,_2005-2006#Megan_wants_a_Tin_Tin_episode|Megan E-mails]]}}
Through the end of 2005 and into [[2006]], Chris obsessed over Megan, writing her [[Sonichu 5|into his comic]], trying to drag her into dates, trying to snuggle, hold her hand, kiss her, and other attempted romantic gestures. This didn't accomplish anything but rousing the ire of Megan, who was uncomfortable with these advances and only saw him as a friend, nothing more. She repeatedly tried to assert her asexuality to Chris, in an effort to prevent his advances. Sadly, this fell on deaf ears, and Chris continued to hound her. Even when Megan eventually resorted to claiming she had a boyfriend, Chris was not deterred.

Unfortunately for her, this was only the beginning...

==Megan Saga==

===Sailor Megtune===
{{Main|Sailor Megtune}}

Megan, like Chris, enjoyed drawing cartoons, and this seems to have caught Chris's eye early in the game:

{{quote|Everytime I see your drawings, I get inspired to want to work more on [[Sonichu (comic)|my comics]].|Christian, [[Megan_Emails,_2005-2006#Chris_wants_to_date_Megan_at_McDonald.27s|Megan E-mails]]}}

In what was a fortunate alignment of his ass-kissing campaign with the series of diary entries that ''Sonichu'' had become, Megan (later [[retconned]] as '''Meg-chan''') soon made her first appearance as [[Sailor Megtune]] in [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu'' #5]] along with [[Megagi La Skunk]], her own furry sidekick. The two are purportedly "[[Sailor Moon|Sailor Soldiers]]" and reveal on the spot that Chris is an old friend of theirs (including Megagi) and thwart the evil [[Jerkop]]s trying to ruin Chris' [[Love Quest]] with Rockin' Hurricane, causing Magic Rocket to [[Team Rocket|blast off again]]. Her influence on the "art" of ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' is apparent in Chris's sudden transition to a more [[anime]] style with ''Sonichu'' #5, most notably in his character's eyes, which became large and shiny.

[[File:Sonichu - Episode 13, Page 27.jpg|thumb|Getting dangerously close to crossing the line...]]

Megan and Chris appeared to chat about comics in their e-mail conversations; Chris [[Ego|critiqued]] some of her story ideas, and ran the plotline for [[Sonichu 6|''Sonichu'' #6]] by her, including a bizarre offer to write in Megan's own imaginary daughter. While Megan probably found the whole thing harmlessly eccentric at first, ''Sonichu'' #5 managed to create some drama pretty quickly upon its release. Megan undoubtedly flipped when she saw her character getting romantic with Chris, as well as being portrayed in a sexualized manner. Chris completely failed to comprehend why she was angry, but did [[retcon]] a couple of pages to tone them down. This did not placate Megan, however.

===Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown===
{{main|Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown}}
{{See also|Megan Emails, Aug-Dec 2007}}

{{quote|In any case, I LOATHE [[Adam Stackhouse|Adam]] and his Sister for STEALING my one chance at taking my Sweet [[Gal pal|Gal-Friend]] to [[Wikipedia:Seattle|Seattle]]; [[Chris and rape|it would have been terriffic]]. I might have even been able to change her outlook on not planning on having children (she and I are both virgins; although I am a [[stress|FRUSTRATED]], High-Functionally [[autism|AUTISTIC]], 25-YEAR OLD [[Virgin with rage|VIRGIN]].|[[PSN Blogs]]}}

Megan spent the summer of [[2007]] in [[Wikipedia:Kentucky|Kentucky]], where her brother was taking a summer course in Mechanics. Undeterred, Chris continued e-mailing her, refusing to back away even for a moment as he ''still'' believed that, deep down inside, Megan truly did love him. Discovering Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown and the prizes for victory, Chris eagerly entered the contest, hoping to win a [[PSP]] and use the trip offered in the contest to win her [[china|heart]]. In the end, as expected, Chris lost (even after extensive cheating), [[Adam Stackhouse]] won, and Megan didn't care. Even when Chris began whining to her and others about how Adam and everyone else except Chris had somehow cheated, Megan didn't care either way. This childish behavior eventually resulted in Megan losing her temper with Chris, reprimanding him for his selfishness and inappropriate behavior. Despite being hurt by her outburst, Chris continued to harass Megan in much the same way as before.

===Sexual Tensions and The End of Megan===
{{Main|ShecameforCWC.JPG}}
{{See also|Megan emails, 2008}}

{{quote|And, by the way, that is not ''Crystal'' whose eyes are censored; that is ''Megan''!|Chris, stating [[Chris and art|the not-so-obvious]] and burning bridges with Megan for good<ref name="secondmessage">[[CWC's Second Message]]</ref>}}

[[File:ShecameforCWC (200803).JPG|thumb|...And the line has officially been crossed.]]

In November 2007, Chris discovered his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page and begin his one-man crusade [[Sonichu 8|against the garbage]]. In the process, he uploaded a number of [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack|pornographic and lewd]] artworks, one of which was [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|a picture of him fingering Megan]] with her eyes obscured. Trolls originally believed that she was [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|his imaginary sister Crystal]], which prompted an outraged Chris to try to deny accusations of [[Chris and sex#Incest|incestuous desires]] by revealing that the image was actually meant to represent Megan.<ref>[[List of Chris's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica#March 2008|Chris confirms Megan's identity on 18 March 2008.]]</ref><ref name="secondmessage"/>

By 12 [[March 2008]], Megan discovered the picture depicting her and demanded that it be removed immediately. Chris attempted to do so, but found himself blocked at every turn. His edits were quickly reverted, or even worse, compounded, as he tried to upload other versions of the picture with the face cropped out or obscured. On 21 [[April 2008]] Megan wrote an email to Chris saying she was not comfortable being around him anymore,<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Megan can't trust Chris anymore]]</ref> thus putting an end to their friendship.

Throughout the fiasco, Chris brashly attempted to paint himself as a greater victim than Megan, initially even assuming that she didn't understand what was going on in the picture. He later admitted that he created the image in part to suppress the occasional impulse to '''[[rape]] her''', and that trying to assert that what she was going through just ''being'' in the picture and learning what he could have done was ''nothing'' compared to the misery of the [[troll]]ing he was enduring.<ref>[[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris_continues_bothering_her_about_ED]]</ref>

Evidence suggests that Megan was distancing herself from Chris even before she discovered the awful drawing. Comments by former GAMe PLACe patrons [[Daniel Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] indicate that Megan was already avoiding Chris before she found out ShecameforCWC.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Initial post|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]: "Megan would usually stand/hide behind me and Lucas to avoid [Chris], '''especially after''' the drawings of her got leaked [emphasis added]." This comment suggests that Megan was avoiding Chris before ShecameforCWC came to her attention. In their [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Chris and Megan|discussion of Megan]], Mimms and Lucas seem to attribute Chris's groping as the main factor behind the deterioration of his relationship with her, while giving little weight to ShecameforCWC.</ref> Chris himself has partially confirmed this account on the [[CWCipedia]].<ref>[[CWCipedia]] on [https://archive.vn/rB99e Megan]: "When I started getting too close, [Megan] started to feel uncomfortable, My Bad. Then she distanced herself from me, saw other dudes, including a possible homosexual."</ref> It might very well be that ShecameforCWC was the last step in euthanizing a dying relationship, rather than killing a vibrant and living one.

{{clear}}

==Aftermath==
{{quote|Too bad I was never just that too all into him.|Cartoon Megan, "I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC"}}

{{quote|Megan... WHY?!|Christian,
"I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC"}}

Despite Megan telling him she was no longer comfortable being in his presence, Chris was not willing to give up on her. On 11 [[2008#June|June 2008]], Chris sent an email to a person named Tyler Wane, asking Tyler to deliver Megan the birthday gift Chris bought for her (a German-English dictionary). Chris said he could not deliver her the gift himself due to being "forced into hiatus from the Pokemon League by that S.O.B. [[Michael Snyder|Mike]]". Tyler in response suggested to Chris to arrange meeting with Megan outside [[The GAMe PLACe]].<ref><[[Chris emails 2008#June]]</ref>

Megan surfaced again in Chris's thoughts in [[July 2009]], first in the [[CWC "Boyfriend"]] video, and then in the subsequent update, [[I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC]]. Chris also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCo72hJ-SAg reposted] the Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown entry, though this version is slightly different from the ones frequently seen in latter days: After "...my friend Megan!", Chris inserted a short break with a photo of him and Megan, with a lovely heart frame. Either this is the original version before Chris tried to clean up his image, or a brand new version with new improved references to the long-lost love.

On 26 [[March 2009]], he released a [[CWC Major Update 26 March 2009 |Captain's Log]] where he told everyone to [[Chris and Hypocrisy|"leave her alone"]] because she was going through [[stress]] from the [[trolls]], and threatened to stop drawing the comic if they didn't. At the beginning of the video Chris claims that he was recently contacted by Megan, though it was most likely a troll posing as her seeing as she had cut off all ties with him.

On 12 [[August 2009]], he dedicated a song to Megan in one of his [[KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special]] videos, where the first sign that he'd convinced himself that she'd told him "I Love You" comes up (and he remains relatively consistent when speaking of her in acting as though this actually happened).

{{quote|Coming up next at #7, we got another long-distance dedication, to the old [[gal-pal]] of mine that I almost had a ra- I had meant to be- I had her "I love you" before I got kicked out, Megan Schroeder, her, from her favorite, this is from her favorite h-artist, Yngwie Malmsteen.|Christian, "[[KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special]]"}}

In 2010, he created a [[:File:ModNation GalPal.jpg|model of Megan]] for ''[[ModNation Racers]]'' (named "Gal Pal"), showing that he still couldn't let go.

=== Chris's version of events ===
On 16 [[May 2010]], the [[CWCipedia]]'s new fan manager Daria Camacho created a page for Megan, using the link on Chris's page of [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|gal-pals and sweethearts]]. When Chris discovered it, he erased all of Daria's text and wrote his own version. The abridged version of events he presents is much shorter than his gigantic [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|rant on The Wallflower]], probably because the events of the Megan Saga are beginning to fade from his memory.

{{quotebox|If you REALLY MUST KNOW...

Megan and I first met at a Yu-Gi-Oh Tournament at The G&H Place, back when it was still in the Downtown Mall. It was around the time the Y.G.O. Movie debuted in theaters. She and I, we talked, hung out and became really good friends.

"I DID have lovey-dovey feelings for her, and I still care about her as a friend. I did her a number of favors by getting her this and that off of eBay, then she would reimburse me the cost of each item.

When I started getting too close, she started to feel uncomfortable, My Bad. Then she distanced herself from me, saw other dudes, including a possible [[homos]]exual.

I drew that drawing of her and me that is unfortunately popular among everyone who tends to haze me for TWO REASONS. Firstly, because of My Own Wishful Thinking. And second a tool in a lame attempt to overcrowd the E.D. page against me with Bu**C*** with my own "information" to shut it down.

Ever since, she totally spaced herself from me, like as if she had put a restraining order against, which she did not. And as I was being forced off the Place premesis the last day I was there, she stood by and watched in shock. She could have spoken up for me, but she did not.

I have lost communication with Megan since then.}}

In the months and years after his "breakup" with Megan, Chris came to try and act as if he'd gotten over her. His [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|CWCipedia page]] on [[The Wallflower]], for instance, claimed "I had LOOOOOONG moved on from Megan."

However, a lingering attachment betrayed itself on occasion. The archive of his [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|female acquaintances]] on the CWCipedia noted, "I still miss her sometimes." In an [[Jackie_e-mails_Part_2#Chris_lies_about_The_Game_Place|e-mail to Jackie]] from April 2010, when he recounted having his picture taken at The GAMe PLACe, Chris said, "I was in a state of shock from seeing Megan and (her short-lived romance) Christopher MAKING OUT. '''That Should Have Been Me.'''"

==The Blame Game==

=== Origins ===
[[File:Megan Schroeder - 2013 September.jpeg|thumb|Megan, years later, still recovering from her ordeal. Out of frame: [[JERKS|JERK]].]]
The [[Matthew Noble call]] of August 2010 revealed that [[Bob]] and [[Barbara]] disliked and distrusted Megan, believing that she conspired with Michael Snyder and "some [[homos]]exual[s]" to get Chris banned from The GAMe PLACe. Barbara also mentions how Megan "lied" about something, suggesting that she believes Megan to be a troll.

It is possible that this belief originated with Chris, as in his correspondence with [[Katie Bay]], he lists Megan as a "possible troll".<ref>[[Katie_Bay_E-mails_2#26 July]]</ref> His reasoning was typical Chris - she had a vagina and didn't want to give him access to it. He also appears to have [[Autism|confused her with another white female brunette]] that placed a sign on his lawn on [[Halloween]] [[2008]].

=== Chris Doxes Megan ===

A series of leaked Facebook postings beginning in [[February 2012]] revealed Chris' ever-growing, pathological, and extreme hatred for Megan. His animosity for Megan supposedly grew much more vitriolic after buying into his parents' [[Chris and reality|completely baseless]] belief that Megan was responsible for the "Hate and Smear Campaign" against Chris:

{{quote|EVERYONE, I have most urgent news. It is Final in My Mind, and from my mother as an eye and ear witness of her consorting with [[Michael Snyder]] LONG Before Novembef, [[2007]]; Megan Schroeder IS the SEED of the Whole Hate and Smear Campaign Against Me on the [[Internet]]. If any of you all Know where she is, or have clues of her, or her brother...current wherabouts, Please Inform Me on THIS WALL, Posthaste. She is Needed Brought to me, my mother and [[Rob Bell|our attorney]], for Great Questioning, and a Huge Piece of my mind. Thank You, Christian W. Chandler|Chris, Facebook, [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Urgent news|February 18, 2012]]}}

In the following days, Chris posted her contact information in hopes that his friends would troll her. Thankfully, this effort was not successful.

[[File:Fbp10.png|thumb|Chris's moronic attempt at trolling back Megan. He exhibits a belief that if you simply dox people online, they get trolled back, not realizing the large number of reasons why this only happened to him.]]

On 4 April [[2013]], Chris denounced The GAMe PLACe and called for Megan to be "jailed and beaten up", describing her as a "vile, wicked, traitorous bitch"<ref>[[April 2013 Facebook posts#Leaving the Game Place behind]]</ref>—a rare display of hatred upon a woman not seen from Chris since [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. Judging by a 20 July 2013 Facebook post, Chris seems to be holding Schroeder, along with [[Michael Snyder|Snyder]], to be the main culprit behind the various misfortunes he had over the years.<ref>[[July 2013 Facebook Posts#Spring Breakers]]</ref>

=== Megagi La Scapegoat ===

Chris's vitriol for Megan continues almost six years after his ban from [[The GAMe PLACe]], and he has even resorted to using Megan as a scapegoat for everything bad that happens to him even if he is blatantly responsible. In the aftermath of a permaban from [[Wal-Mart]] on the weekend of 7 September 2013 for having vandalized an [[Xbox]] One display, Chris flew into an incoherent rage and began blaming Megan for both his Wal-mart and GAMe PLACe bans:

{{quote|If it had not been for Mr. "[[Manajerk]]", Megan Schroeder, and their Internet Troll/Cyber-Bully Breeding and Meeting Ground, Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys, My Family and I would not have had go through all of the emotionally depressing, and Financial Downfall to [[Financhu Crisis|the depths of Greatly Poor and Just Getting By!]] The Manajerk has drained us financially, thinking we are freaking rich. And Megan has robbed me emotionally, started all of the Hate Against Me on the freaking Internet, Never financially paid me back for ALL of the material favors I bought for her off of eBay, and I WANT MY UNCUT "SAILOR MOON' DVDS FROM SEASONS "R" TO "SAILOR STAR" THAT GERMAN WARFARE BITCH CONNED FROM ME RETURNED TO ME!!!|Chris, Facebook, September 7, 2013}}

[[File:Sept13 Imgur 28.jpg|thumb|left|Megan's fate as a Lego voodoo doll. Notice her goth style clothing.]]
On 24 September 2013, Chris claimed in a Facebook post to have received an email from Daniel Mimms about Megan's current whereabouts. He now classes her with the Witch ([[Mary Lee Walsh]]) and the Bastard ([[Michael Snyder]]), and makes three [[Lego]] minifigs of them and shakes them together as a sort of punishment.<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Voodoo-Wise]]</ref><ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Yep, the Bitch has not changed a thing...]]</ref> Of course, the notion that Chris can perform [[Wikipedia:Sympathetic magic|sympathetic magic]] to harm his enemies is [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|befitting]] with his [[Chris and reality|other delusions]]. Chris continued to use this Lego minifigure of Megan as a totem to relieve his anger for her, and it appeared a month later "in detention" at [[CWC Lego Manchester High School Oct 18 2013|Lego Manchester High]].

On 3 October 2013, Chris posted another [[October 2013 Facebook Posts#Megagi La Skunk agrees that you should have never been born|rambling tirade directed at Megan]] to Facebook. This time, Chris claimed that [[Megagi La Skunk]], Megan's cartoon character that she probably doesn't even remember making, told him that she is "deeply distrustful" and agrees with Chris that Megan should have never been born. Additionally, as if she would even care, Megan's [[Sailor Megtune]] "powers" were "revoked" by Chris. On top of reiterating the previous "wrongdoings" by Megan, Chris has proven nothing at all, except perhaps that he suffers from [[Chris and reality|some form of]] [[Chris and anger|mental illness.]]

{{quote|
You ungrateful bitch. Quit hiding behind the Anons, Trolls, PLace People and every Damned Person who you have deceived into siding with you.

By the way, I have checked with Megagi La Skunk; she feels deep distrust in you. We mutually agree that you should have never been born, even if it meant she would never exist. Also, your Sailor Megtune powers; I created them for you; I have taken them away from you! Usagi and the Sailor Scouts would have been most ashamed of you.

...And by the way, I pray you have been having Really Bad Luck, Feeling Paranoid of EVERYONE, and Shakingly Stressed, because I continue to leave your minifigure upside-down and shaken with the Witch and the Bastard! And I have been feeling the very same grave emotions myself for the Six Long Years, you damn, dirty bitch!|Chris, Facebook, October 3, 2013}}

Chris ended his first rant with a comment reading "NOBODY ELSE COMMENT THIS POST!!!", possibly because he's tired of having his atrocious behavior called out by even the most ass-patting of his friends. The following day, Chris focused all his blame like a laser beam on Megan, insisting that she is responsible for the [[CWCki]], virtually all of his [[List of places that have banned Chris|bans]], the "theft" of his [[Sailor Moon]] DVDs ''yet again'', and astonishingly, even the fact that he lacks a sweetheart. That's right: not only is Megan the one who's responsible for everything Chris inflicted on himself, but also Chris will ''only'' forgive Megan after he gets [[Chris and sex#Prostitution|unpaid]] [[china]] he feels entitled to.

{{quote|I will only forgive Megan, and remove all curses upon her, when she apologizes to me In Person and Face To Face, when the Cwcki, its forum, and Everything Else Against me on the Freaking Internet is GONE, GONE, GONE, when I am NOT BANNED FROM ANYWHERE, when I get my original Uncut Sailor Moon DVDs returned to me, when my Good Name is Cleared of all of the bad, AND when I have my female Sweetheart for Forever. And I am Not Stepping Down beforehand.|Chris, Facebook, October 4, 2013, 10:09am}}

=== Megan, Queen of the Trolls ===

Roughly two hours later, Chris posted another Facebook message. While seemingly intending to explain the methodology of Megan's master [[troll]] scheme, to everyone else it actually reads more like valid condemnations of Chris' obnoxious behavior by his peers and authority figures. Finally, Chris re-iterated his desire not to hear any criticism from his friends, instructing others not to comment on his post and challenging Megan to a face-to-face meeting. Whether Megan cares enough to challenge, in-person, a delusional 31-year old who lives with his [[Barb|mother]] remains yet to be seen.

{{quote|Megan, I KNOW you and the PLace employee continuously conversed and conspired against me. "Christian is so weird. " "Tell me about it." "He hangs onto me, touching me, clinging onto my every word. Ugh." "I can not stand his shouting outbursts that echos in my head after both of those times he stressed out." "I want to just kill him; destroy his goody-two-shoes nature, soul, heart and all that shit my mashed potato grenade could shatter, but leave his body in tact, so I'm not committed for murder." "I just want to ban him from "MY" store forever." "I got it! Let's get an embarrassing photo of him, post it online, and put him to shame forever!" "Mimms and Lucas are tech freaks! Let's enlist them." "Yeah! Chris will be banned from "YOUR" store based on the hyped up mal online reputation; he will be out of my life forever. Pending possible nightmares and night terrors to come, but who the fuck cares; his Autistic, Fragile mind will shatter along with his heart after I kiss my homosexual fake boyfriend in front of him!" ""HA HA HA HA HA AHA HA HA!!!!!""

I am onto your game that took away six years of my life and destroyed me; you either pay me what you owe, or I continue to curse and haunt you with my father at my side.|Chris, Facebook, October 4, 2013, 12:44pm}}

Chris later deleted the two posts prior to this one; a few hours later, he deleted this one as well.

In late 2020, Chris [[Spirit possession|(while "possessed" by Sonichu)]] revealed that he no longer believed Megan to be a troll, but that "[Chris] was to blame for all of the very stupid impulses and mistakes that ended that friendship."<ref>[[Discord Q&A 11#Chris's Closest Friend]]</ref> This seeming forgiveness may have been spurred on by his belief that Megan is a CPU goddess. It also shows [[Chris and his ego#Persecution complex|Chris's self-serving memory]] in action, considering that she was justified to feel uncomfortable at his unwanted advances on her and understandably creeped out by ShecameforCWC.JPG.

==Years later==
{{quote|I just say let her, wherever she is, live her life, and I'll just stay here, liv- living mine. It's all done and over with.|Chris}}

On 26 January 2016, in the [[CatKnight Interview 2|second CatKnight interview]], Sir Arthur Spatchcock brought up the topic of Megan and the [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Urgent news|grudge]] [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Pissed off|Chris]] [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Damn You|had]] [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Address|against]] [[October 2013 Facebook Posts#GAMe PLACe revelations|her]]. Chris claims that he has finally gotten over that grudge, wishing for her to be left alone to live her own life.

In February 2017, Chris looked up and browsed through Megan's Facebook account,<ref>[[February 2017 Facebook Posts#Found Megan's Facebook]]</ref> sharing one of her drawings to his own account. When asked by [[Kim Wilson]] if they were friends again, Chris responded:

{{quotebox|Not quite; I just gone through my past and recent sent friend requests, found Megan Schroeder, and I liked her cover photo; it's cute. She has a few cute dogs too. At least, she's doing okay; as far as I can tell.}}

The act of searching for his ex-[[gal pal]] came just four days after Chris posted about his feelings of nostalgia for his "friends" from [[Manchester High]].

Megan was asked about Chris on her Etsy page on July 1 2017. This was her response: <ref>https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aj5gd-lUeHJyhUknNI2IkmGQC1eq</ref>

{{quotebox|'''Hi'''

Thank you very much! Unfortunately with Chris he never learns from his mistakes, he refuses to accept any accountability. When I heard about the house fire, I thought maybe it was a blessing in disguise and he would start a new better life with a clean slate. But from whatI hear, no, he still begs for money and spends it all on legos...

Well thanks for the good wishes, I really appreciate that!}}

On 9 [[October 2017]], Chris once again looked up Megan's Facebook for her online store and left a comment on it:<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_Facebook_posts#Complimenting_Megan_Schroeder</ref>

{{quotebox|I just wanted to tell you I like your craft and are. You have become a lot more talented over the years. Many blessing to you and your family. 🌸}}

The post was later removed.

During the [[Idea Guys]] saga, Chris's belief in multiple dimensions was exploited and his sense of reality hijacked to make changes to many of Chris's characters, concepts and perspective of the real world, with him considering them to be valid. Ideas involving Megan include:

*Megan having the memories of [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Red Heart]], which she earned while in politics.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20190528042422/https://twitter.com/cwcsonichu/status/1015420612494397441</ref>

On 19 [[May 2018]], a full decade after Megan cut off all communications with him, Chris issued a public apology to Megan and her brother and expressed his desire to reopen old wounds by speaking with them:<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/997900592084238336</ref>

{{quotebox|I want to once again humbly apologize to Megan and John Schroeder. I know I did y'all wrong back in the day but time heals all wounds. It would be nice to hear from you with just a simple "hi" or "best of luck". After all of These Years I still need closure.}}

When asked why he would issue this apology publicly when she clearly does not want to be associated with him, Chris responded that he had no choice because she blocked him on Facebook.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/997901813868257281</ref>

On 17 [[October 2018]], Chris declared on [[Twitter]] that if he and Barb received [[Financhu Crisis|enough donations]], he would drive over to Megan's house and take Barb and his "[[Polyamorous marriage|poly-loves]]" with him.<ref>[[October 2018 social media posts#Donation drive to see Megan]]</ref> About nineteen minutes later, he backtracked on his claim after learning from [[The Captain]]<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (The Captain)#Megan's Guns]]</ref> that Megan possesses guns.<ref>[[October 2018 social media posts#Megan's got dat stick]] / https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1052621336751702019</ref>

In [[the Sons of the Miscreants chats]], [[MKRNightVee]] claimed that Chris wanted her to befriend Megan in order to help him resume communication with Megan. MKR declined to get involved out of concern for Megan.

On 4 [[April 2019]], a trailer for the documentary ''[[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]'' was released, which featured brief footage of and narration by a brunette woman, shot from behind, speculated and later confirmed to be Megan herself. [[Geno Samuel]] claimed that Megan actually wanted to physically reunite with Chris, thinking it would be fun; the film's director, Joseph Draft, vetoed this, feeling it would be "too corny and forced".<ref>[[:File:Geno on Draft docu.png]]</ref> [[Naught]] claimed both that Megan later requested that her footage be cut entirely from the film, and that Draft destroyed the hard drive containing the film's only known completed copy.<ref>[[Official CWCki Server chats (Naught)#Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]</ref>

On 20 [[September 2020]], in the [[Watchmen]] discord server, [[The Place]], Chris, while [[Spirit possession|role-playing]] as [[Sonichu]], [[The Place chats - Megan Obsession|described having an emotional breakdown]] over his perceived issues with Megan.
{{quotebox|Mama off and on would also see Megan in her dreams; simply being there. An awkward moment, and Mama’s impulse was to back away and leave her be.

Now, I can move back to last night.

While trying to fall asleep after hitting the hay at about 1:30 am, for Hours, Chris-Core kept on thinking about it and searching further into these emotions and all. This body cried a LOT, and yes, I’ve had to blow its nose.}}
Additionally, Chris further describes his past with Megan, reiterating his desire for a face to face, "heart to heart" chat with her. Near the end of the chat, Chris once again claims that Megan is the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Goddess Red Heart]] of a rare Nintendo console only released in Germany.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/The_Place_chats_-_Megan_Obsession</ref>

On 5 [[November 2020]], in another [[The Place chats - Beneath the Bridge|chat]] in The Place, Chris described the coverage of Megan in the Chris Chan Youtube series ''[[Beneath the Bridge]]'' as a "real mixed bag", admitting that he had been cringing and crying throughout most of it.
{{quotebox|The multi-part vids about Megan were a real mixed bag; more than half of the time, it hit the nerves in the core of this body, some cringe, a bunch of crying, and so on.}}

On 7 [[January 2021]], Megan was asked if her association with Chris and the ensuing status of minor internet celebrity that came with it was ever thought about. She gave a [[Honest Content|True and Honest]] response, saying that she doesn't even think of it.<ref>[[:File:Megan question January 2021.png]]</ref>

==Interviews==
During January 2019, a YouTuber by the moniker BazzBe interviewed Megan over Facebook. BazzBe then put together a video narrating the chat.

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===Transcript===
{{quoteboxyellow|[''autistic sigh''] Oh man. Alright, so, like I said earlier in the video [this is part five of a series, he is apparently referring to an earlier part], I did get the chance to speak to Megan today. Um, hold on [fiddles with screen, which due to being 480px is almost completely unreadable on YouTube] ... uh huh, I was [hiding?] the messages.

So basically, I messaged her, uh, it was accidentally, but I messaged her on her business page because apparently she's in business now and, like, cool. So she asked me to talk to her on her normal page, so I did, I found her, and I asked her: so, I'm sure that you know what I want to talk about, things from past events.

She said: '''Oh yeah, you know, Chris.'''

And I told her, like, I'm very drawn to the story, I've been covering it on YouTube, and I figured it would be cool if I could contact to you so I could see how things, like, how you feel about it nowadays.

She goes: '''Well honestly, I don't follow his antics at all, I've seen a few recent things from someone that alerts me that he's doing things regarding me or whatever.'''

And I asked her, well, were you ever really friends, or did you just feel pity for him?

She said, '''No, I'd say despite his advances, it was a good friendship. He was a lot of fun to converse with. People think that I was using him for things.''' (Which I've heard a lot of people say she was just using him to buy things, but it's been like fifteen years, what would she gain from lying to us?) '''People think that I've been using him for things, but I'd always presented him gifts for his birthday or Christmas. Things from eBay I would either give cash or trade for mangas or DVDs or whatever.'''

I said, did you ever think you would reunite, how do you feel about ... sorry I'm tired ... how do you feel about being a part of all this and having a fanbase?

And she said, '''I didn't know I had fans too.'''

[''Vaguely thirsty grin''] You do! '''Personally I think it's best to stay away and not be involved with him again.''' I said, yeah, you do have a fanbase, and you're definitely the saddest part of the story in my opinion. I do generally believe that, now I know a lot about some of the upcoming stuff that's coming to the fore but I will say Megan was the part where it started going downhill. She was the beginning of the snowball effect, and I think that's when the rock bottom starts to come if you know what I mean, 'cause that was like, the last real friend he had before he fucked it all up.

Ah, ok, where was I at?

'''Comparing him now, I'd say he was definitely more normal during my time with him. That's saying something.'''

How many others have contacted you over this?

'''Oh, I couldn't keep count. It's always been through facebook and as well as Etsy, it's always been half and half condolences and trolls, weens trying to get a reaction or a reply out of me.'''

I told her I was just fascinated by the whole thing and I'm happy to have contacted you and have you take the time to take part in this. And she didn't mind, I was very awesome, I mean, damn that's cool. I was always, oh, I'm sorry, I was wanting to interview her on Discord so I could record our voices talking about it, but honestly I didn't think she would know how to use Discord, [''strange noise''], I'm not saying anything bad, she's a little bit older than me, also, it was like 9:30 in the morning so ... I told her I was sorry to bother her and I understand this might be effecting your life in a negative way because I understand about the artwork and stuff. And she said well, not necessarily, I made a couple of really close friends because of it, I think there's a misconception out there that the whole thing traumatized me which isn't the case at all.

That's good. That's actually something I was curious about. And I asked her [''laughs''], does she still enjoy Sailor Moon and My Little Pony?

She said, '''I have a Sailor Moon collection but I don't actively collect it anymore. It's been both a hobby and an investment. A few dolls sell now on eBay for $500 each. That's for Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokemon, and MLP''' -- My Little Pony [''autistic smirk''] -- '''I sold those off a few years ago. I still play 3DS games and have a few Pikachu plush but I'm not into the whole anime fandom thing.'''

OK, fair enough. I asked her do you still remain in Virginia or did you escape?

She said she's still in Virginia and she's done some traveling around and overseas. So, then she told me that she was going to take her dogs or go feed her animals, and I said that was fine, but then I just went ahead and said hey, let's just postpone the rest of this and we'll just finish up tomorrow or, like, another day. Um ... yeah [''smirks again''] There's so much more I want to find out and I want to see, like, what all she's willing to discuss, but if you're interested in, like, I wouldn't say contacting, because I don't want anyone to really harass this woman, let her live her life.

If you are interested in buying one of her, uh, forest things ... I didn't actually really take the time to look at these, they're kind of cool ... [''weird smile, long pause''] ... but yeah, if you're interested in like, buying one of these, um, I'd say contact her, they look pretty interesting and you know some people have, like, a thing for cute animals, and I think I might just buy one, just to promote, so, thank you Megan, I really appreciate you taking the time to talk to me about this stuff today. Hopefully we can continue this and go a little bit deeper into it, but, alright. Thank you guys for washing, I really appreciate it, drop me a like, subscribe, help me out, and I will see you guys for part six. I can't wait. Goodnight.}}

A lost interview was also conducted at some point during 2019, for the cancelled ''[[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]'' documentary, however, the director got cold feet and refused to release any of the documentary footage. A single line of Megan's from the interview is preserved from the documentary's trailer: "Now, he... he seems like a totally different person to me."

==Gallery==

===Art by Megan===
<center><gallery>
Image:061-MegansSailorMoonCD.jpg|[[Sailor Moon]]
Image:313-MegansSMoon.jpg|Sailor Moon
Image:316-MegagiOriginal.jpg|[[Megagi La Skunk]] ~ The pose in this and the following few drawings are traced from [http://info.sonicretro.org/File:Advance2_sonic.png this artwork] of [[Sonic the Hedgehog]].
Image:318-HoundHowl.jpg|Hound Howl, which Chris reused as "Canino the Houndhowl" in the [[Wedding Comic]].
Image:319-PendingDoom.jpg|An OC based on the [[Pokémon]] Houndoom.
Image:320-Apocolypse.jpg|An OC based on Absol.
Image:321-IceCune.jpg|An OC based on Suicune.
Image:322-houdourstuff.jpg
Image:Megan ace of clubs.JPG|"Ace of Clubs" ~ Megan's original design for [[Patti-chan]], until Chris stole the design.
Image:Megyoshimitsu1.jpg|[[wikipedia:Yoshimitsu|Yoshimitsu]] drawing, made in [[1990s|1996]].<ref name="tekken forces">[https://web.archive.org/web/20091012030656/http://www.tekkenforces.com/fanart/fanartgmegimitsu.php Tekken Forces Fanart Gallery]</ref>
Image:Megyoshimitsu2.jpg|''[[Wikipedia:The Powerpuff Girls|Powerpuff Girls]]''-style Yoshimitsu<ref name="tekken forces"/>
</gallery></center>

===Art of Megan===
<center><gallery>
Image:Sonichu07-P03.jpg
Image:Sonichu07-P04.jpg
Image:Sonichu07-P05.jpg|KINDA OF A [[Dragon Ball|GOKU-GET-EM]] ATTITUDE. :)
Image:129-ChrisChanMegtune.jpg
Image:305-ACMegan.jpg
Image:306-ACMeganBck.jpg
Image:307-MegSch.jpg
Image:311-RedDarkMeggician.jpg
Image:312-PeanutsMegan.jpg|Another [[wikipedia:Schroeder (Peanuts)|Schroeder]].
File:ModNation GalPal.jpg|He just can't let go...
File:Sept13 Imgur 28.jpg|[[LEGO]] voodoo doll of Megan.
File:Lego2 - 24 September 2013.jpeg|He keeps it upside down to torture her.
File:Lego3 - 24 September 2013.jpeg|When he feels REALLY angry, he shakes it.
File:Meganfight 26.jpg|Chris victorious over the evil bitch.

</gallery></center>

===Miscellaneous===
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Image:323-MegansDarkChao.JPG
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2023-07-31T03:52:59Z

Lilacraven: /* Years later */ Added information from The Place chat of 20 September 2020.

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She's moved on with her life and has already published a statement about Chris, making it clear she wants nothing to do with him. Don't drag her back into this.}}
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{{quote|Ah, For Her I Would travel even A Thousand Miles, just to be with her. Fortunately, she lives only about one hour from my house, and I meet her once a week at a closer-to-home social. This feeling, It was, and still is, so pure and true, it was like as if I was Born to Love Her. When She Smiles, I feel like I'm Walking on Sunshine as I give my replying smile and gaze into her eyes. And her hair is the softest and most warm-tingling. Cloud Nine? I feel like I'm on Ten.|Christian, ''[[Story of My Current Days]]''}}
{{Quote|ED didn't drag my name through the mud but you did.
I don't know, I can't keep disgracing myself and forgiving and forgiving. I have some pride you know. I've forgiven you so many times before it's just getting irritating now. Even I have my limits.|Megan gives her own view<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008]]</ref>}}

{{Infobox Person
| name = Megan Schroeder
| aliases = pearl3 CPU Red Heart
| image = meganwithcwc.png
| title = Megan Schroder
| nationality = [[United States|American]]
| day = 23
| month = 7
| year = 1986
| race = White
| gender = Female
| knownfor = *Being one of Chris's few friends outside of High School. *Being an unwilling candidate in Chris's Love Quest, despite telling Chris numerous times that she was not interested *Being the subject of [[SheCameForCWC.jpg|a horrid drawing]] of Chris fingering her. *Being a scapegoat by Chris and his family for why he's being trolled.
| saga = {{saga|megan|cn}}, {{saga|stackhouse|cn}}, {{saga|ed|cn}}, {{saga|gameplace|cn}}
}}

'''Megan Schroeder''' (born 23 July [[1986]]) is a former [[gal pal]] of [[Christian Weston Chandler]]'s, with whom he had perhaps the closest [[Chris_and_socialization|relationship]] with anybody he's ever had in his life, and previously one [[The Wallflower|of]] [[DoopieDoOver|four]] [[The Suitress|potential]] [[sweetheart|sweethearts]] that Chris met that wasn't a [[Troll]], [[Polyamorous marriage|a fictional character]], or [[Barbara Chandler|his own mother]].

Chris first met Megan in the summer of [[2004]] at [[The GAMe PLACe]], where she and her brother [[John]] were regulars. Megan and Chris became good friends, but Chris, being Chris, completely misread their bond as one that could blossom into a true and honest romance. Megan repeatedly tried to set boundaries that Chris either misunderstood or ignored, which led to increasing tensions between the two. This reached a boiling point during the early days of Chris's feud with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]], in which [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|Chris drew a pornographic image of himself and Megan]].

Following Chris's progressively creepier unwanted advances, and realizing that he drew porn of her, Megan cut off contact with him in early [[2008]]. Since then, Chris has developed an intense and unwarranted [[Chris and anger|grudge]] against her, thanks to misconceptions fed to him by [[Borb|his parents]], and his [[autism|autistic delusions]] about her scheming with [[Michael Snyder]] to have him banned from The GAMe PLACe. Chris's attempted contacts with Megan have dragged on as late as [[2018]]. Thanks to the [[Idea Guys]], he later came to believe that she was a [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Goddess]], much like [[CPU Blue Heart|himself]], but Chris never got to speak with her again.

==Prologue==
{{main|Megan emails, 2005-2006}}
{{See also|Megan emails, Jan-July 2007}}
[[Image:156-CWCMegan1.jpg|thumb|Look at the fear in her eyes...]]

{{quote|During the late summer months, I picked up and started the [[Yu-Gi-Oh]] [[Trading Card Game]] (it was around the time the movie came into theaters). One Saturday at the Game Place (Where I was also going for Pokemon TCG on Fridays), I met Megan and [[John's Custom Gundam|John Schroeder]]. At first I thought they were a couple but then they were just Sister and Brother. Over the months of getting to know Megan, I grew fond of her. Although at that time, and up to now, she wasn't interested in a lovely relationship. I've bided to her wishes and requests. I am truly fond of her, and I hope she will have a change of heart soon. She'll be turning 21 on July 23, 2007.|Christian<ref>[[Yep, I'm on TV :)]]</ref>}}

Megan is a typical ''truly'' [[boyfriend-free girl]], even claiming to be [[Chris_and_sexuality#Asexuality|asexual]]. She had a few eccentricities, which Chris was more than happy to copy and oblige, namely her fondness for ''[[My Little Pony]]'', ''[[Sailor Moon]]'', and using Chris like a debit card because she was too lazy to go on [[eBay]] herself.

Megan and Chris first met at The GAMe PLACe in summer 2004, over a game of ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''. The two apparently struck up a friendship of sorts. They had an obvious connection from the start, since they were both idling their twenties away playing [[card games]] marketed to preteens. It only took [[Third date|a few games]] and a handful of e-mails before Chris saw Megan as his [[sweetheart]]. Megan, however, did not reciprocate this sentiment. It probably didn't help that Megan was getting Chris to buy things for her like a stereotypical wife nagging her husband:

{{quote|Please can you get this video for me? please hurry! thanks!|Megan, [[Megan_Emails,_2005-2006#Megan_wants_a_Tin_Tin_episode|Megan E-mails]]}}
Through the end of 2005 and into [[2006]], Chris obsessed over Megan, writing her [[Sonichu 5|into his comic]], trying to drag her into dates, trying to snuggle, hold her hand, kiss her, and other attempted romantic gestures. This didn't accomplish anything but rousing the ire of Megan, who was uncomfortable with these advances and only saw him as a friend, nothing more. She repeatedly tried to assert her asexuality to Chris, in an effort to prevent his advances. Sadly, this fell on deaf ears, and Chris continued to hound her. Even when Megan eventually resorted to claiming she had a boyfriend, Chris was not deterred.

Unfortunately for her, this was only the beginning...

==Megan Saga==

===Sailor Megtune===
{{Main|Sailor Megtune}}

Megan, like Chris, enjoyed drawing cartoons, and this seems to have caught Chris's eye early in the game:

{{quote|Everytime I see your drawings, I get inspired to want to work more on [[Sonichu (comic)|my comics]].|Christian, [[Megan_Emails,_2005-2006#Chris_wants_to_date_Megan_at_McDonald.27s|Megan E-mails]]}}

In what was a fortunate alignment of his ass-kissing campaign with the series of diary entries that ''Sonichu'' had become, Megan (later [[retconned]] as '''Meg-chan''') soon made her first appearance as [[Sailor Megtune]] in [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu'' #5]] along with [[Megagi La Skunk]], her own furry sidekick. The two are purportedly "[[Sailor Moon|Sailor Soldiers]]" and reveal on the spot that Chris is an old friend of theirs (including Megagi) and thwart the evil [[Jerkop]]s trying to ruin Chris' [[Love Quest]] with Rockin' Hurricane, causing Magic Rocket to [[Team Rocket|blast off again]]. Her influence on the "art" of ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' is apparent in Chris's sudden transition to a more [[anime]] style with ''Sonichu'' #5, most notably in his character's eyes, which became large and shiny.

[[File:Sonichu - Episode 13, Page 27.jpg|thumb|Getting dangerously close to crossing the line...]]

Megan and Chris appeared to chat about comics in their e-mail conversations; Chris [[Ego|critiqued]] some of her story ideas, and ran the plotline for [[Sonichu 6|''Sonichu'' #6]] by her, including a bizarre offer to write in Megan's own imaginary daughter. While Megan probably found the whole thing harmlessly eccentric at first, ''Sonichu'' #5 managed to create some drama pretty quickly upon its release. Megan undoubtedly flipped when she saw her character getting romantic with Chris, as well as being portrayed in a sexualized manner. Chris completely failed to comprehend why she was angry, but did [[retcon]] a couple of pages to tone them down. This did not placate Megan, however.

===Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown===
{{main|Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown}}
{{See also|Megan Emails, Aug-Dec 2007}}

{{quote|In any case, I LOATHE [[Adam Stackhouse|Adam]] and his Sister for STEALING my one chance at taking my Sweet [[Gal pal|Gal-Friend]] to [[Wikipedia:Seattle|Seattle]]; [[Chris and rape|it would have been terriffic]]. I might have even been able to change her outlook on not planning on having children (she and I are both virgins; although I am a [[stress|FRUSTRATED]], High-Functionally [[autism|AUTISTIC]], 25-YEAR OLD [[Virgin with rage|VIRGIN]].|[[PSN Blogs]]}}

Megan spent the summer of [[2007]] in [[Wikipedia:Kentucky|Kentucky]], where her brother was taking a summer course in Mechanics. Undeterred, Chris continued e-mailing her, refusing to back away even for a moment as he ''still'' believed that, deep down inside, Megan truly did love him. Discovering Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown and the prizes for victory, Chris eagerly entered the contest, hoping to win a [[PSP]] and use the trip offered in the contest to win her [[china|heart]]. In the end, as expected, Chris lost (even after extensive cheating), [[Adam Stackhouse]] won, and Megan didn't care. Even when Chris began whining to her and others about how Adam and everyone else except Chris had somehow cheated, Megan didn't care either way. This childish behavior eventually resulted in Megan losing her temper with Chris, reprimanding him for his selfishness and inappropriate behavior. Despite being hurt by her outburst, Chris continued to harass Megan in much the same way as before.

===Sexual Tensions and The End of Megan===
{{Main|ShecameforCWC.JPG}}
{{See also|Megan emails, 2008}}

{{quote|And, by the way, that is not ''Crystal'' whose eyes are censored; that is ''Megan''!|Chris, stating [[Chris and art|the not-so-obvious]] and burning bridges with Megan for good<ref name="secondmessage">[[CWC's Second Message]]</ref>}}

[[File:ShecameforCWC (200803).JPG|thumb|...And the line has officially been crossed.]]

In November 2007, Chris discovered his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page and begin his one-man crusade [[Sonichu 8|against the garbage]]. In the process, he uploaded a number of [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack|pornographic and lewd]] artworks, one of which was [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|a picture of him fingering Megan]] with her eyes obscured. Trolls originally believed that she was [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|his imaginary sister Crystal]], which prompted an outraged Chris to try to deny accusations of [[Chris and sex#Incest|incestuous desires]] by revealing that the image was actually meant to represent Megan.<ref>[[List of Chris's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica#March 2008|Chris confirms Megan's identity on 18 March 2008.]]</ref><ref name="secondmessage"/>

By 12 [[March 2008]], Megan discovered the picture depicting her and demanded that it be removed immediately. Chris attempted to do so, but found himself blocked at every turn. His edits were quickly reverted, or even worse, compounded, as he tried to upload other versions of the picture with the face cropped out or obscured. On 21 [[April 2008]] Megan wrote an email to Chris saying she was not comfortable being around him anymore,<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Megan can't trust Chris anymore]]</ref> thus putting an end to their friendship.

Throughout the fiasco, Chris brashly attempted to paint himself as a greater victim than Megan, initially even assuming that she didn't understand what was going on in the picture. He later admitted that he created the image in part to suppress the occasional impulse to '''[[rape]] her''', and that trying to assert that what she was going through just ''being'' in the picture and learning what he could have done was ''nothing'' compared to the misery of the [[troll]]ing he was enduring.<ref>[[Megan_Emails,_2008#Chris_continues_bothering_her_about_ED]]</ref>

Evidence suggests that Megan was distancing herself from Chris even before she discovered the awful drawing. Comments by former GAMe PLACe patrons [[Daniel Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] indicate that Megan was already avoiding Chris before she found out ShecameforCWC.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Initial post|Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]: "Megan would usually stand/hide behind me and Lucas to avoid [Chris], '''especially after''' the drawings of her got leaked [emphasis added]." This comment suggests that Megan was avoiding Chris before ShecameforCWC came to her attention. In their [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Chris and Megan|discussion of Megan]], Mimms and Lucas seem to attribute Chris's groping as the main factor behind the deterioration of his relationship with her, while giving little weight to ShecameforCWC.</ref> Chris himself has partially confirmed this account on the [[CWCipedia]].<ref>[[CWCipedia]] on [https://archive.vn/rB99e Megan]: "When I started getting too close, [Megan] started to feel uncomfortable, My Bad. Then she distanced herself from me, saw other dudes, including a possible homosexual."</ref> It might very well be that ShecameforCWC was the last step in euthanizing a dying relationship, rather than killing a vibrant and living one.

{{clear}}

==Aftermath==
{{quote|Too bad I was never just that too all into him.|Cartoon Megan, "I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC"}}

{{quote|Megan... WHY?!|Christian,
"I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC"}}

Despite Megan telling him she was no longer comfortable being in his presence, Chris was not willing to give up on her. On 11 [[2008#June|June 2008]], Chris sent an email to a person named Tyler Wane, asking Tyler to deliver Megan the birthday gift Chris bought for her (a German-English dictionary). Chris said he could not deliver her the gift himself due to being "forced into hiatus from the Pokemon League by that S.O.B. [[Michael Snyder|Mike]]". Tyler in response suggested to Chris to arrange meeting with Megan outside [[The GAMe PLACe]].<ref><[[Chris emails 2008#June]]</ref>

Megan surfaced again in Chris's thoughts in [[July 2009]], first in the [[CWC "Boyfriend"]] video, and then in the subsequent update, [[I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC]]. Chris also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCo72hJ-SAg reposted] the Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown entry, though this version is slightly different from the ones frequently seen in latter days: After "...my friend Megan!", Chris inserted a short break with a photo of him and Megan, with a lovely heart frame. Either this is the original version before Chris tried to clean up his image, or a brand new version with new improved references to the long-lost love.

On 26 [[March 2009]], he released a [[CWC Major Update 26 March 2009 |Captain's Log]] where he told everyone to [[Chris and Hypocrisy|"leave her alone"]] because she was going through [[stress]] from the [[trolls]], and threatened to stop drawing the comic if they didn't. At the beginning of the video Chris claims that he was recently contacted by Megan, though it was most likely a troll posing as her seeing as she had cut off all ties with him.

On 12 [[August 2009]], he dedicated a song to Megan in one of his [[KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special]] videos, where the first sign that he'd convinced himself that she'd told him "I Love You" comes up (and he remains relatively consistent when speaking of her in acting as though this actually happened).

{{quote|Coming up next at #7, we got another long-distance dedication, to the old [[gal-pal]] of mine that I almost had a ra- I had meant to be- I had her "I love you" before I got kicked out, Megan Schroeder, her, from her favorite, this is from her favorite h-artist, Yngwie Malmsteen.|Christian, "[[KCWC Top 10 Dedication Special]]"}}

In 2010, he created a [[:File:ModNation GalPal.jpg|model of Megan]] for ''[[ModNation Racers]]'' (named "Gal Pal"), showing that he still couldn't let go.

=== Chris's version of events ===
On 16 [[May 2010]], the [[CWCipedia]]'s new fan manager Daria Camacho created a page for Megan, using the link on Chris's page of [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|gal-pals and sweethearts]]. When Chris discovered it, he erased all of Daria's text and wrote his own version. The abridged version of events he presents is much shorter than his gigantic [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|rant on The Wallflower]], probably because the events of the Megan Saga are beginning to fade from his memory.

{{quotebox|If you REALLY MUST KNOW...

Megan and I first met at a Yu-Gi-Oh Tournament at The G&H Place, back when it was still in the Downtown Mall. It was around the time the Y.G.O. Movie debuted in theaters. She and I, we talked, hung out and became really good friends.

"I DID have lovey-dovey feelings for her, and I still care about her as a friend. I did her a number of favors by getting her this and that off of eBay, then she would reimburse me the cost of each item.

When I started getting too close, she started to feel uncomfortable, My Bad. Then she distanced herself from me, saw other dudes, including a possible [[homos]]exual.

I drew that drawing of her and me that is unfortunately popular among everyone who tends to haze me for TWO REASONS. Firstly, because of My Own Wishful Thinking. And second a tool in a lame attempt to overcrowd the E.D. page against me with Bu**C*** with my own "information" to shut it down.

Ever since, she totally spaced herself from me, like as if she had put a restraining order against, which she did not. And as I was being forced off the Place premesis the last day I was there, she stood by and watched in shock. She could have spoken up for me, but she did not.

I have lost communication with Megan since then.}}

In the months and years after his "breakup" with Megan, Chris came to try and act as if he'd gotten over her. His [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|CWCipedia page]] on [[The Wallflower]], for instance, claimed "I had LOOOOOONG moved on from Megan."

However, a lingering attachment betrayed itself on occasion. The archive of his [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|female acquaintances]] on the CWCipedia noted, "I still miss her sometimes." In an [[Jackie_e-mails_Part_2#Chris_lies_about_The_Game_Place|e-mail to Jackie]] from April 2010, when he recounted having his picture taken at The GAMe PLACe, Chris said, "I was in a state of shock from seeing Megan and (her short-lived romance) Christopher MAKING OUT. '''That Should Have Been Me.'''"

==The Blame Game==

=== Origins ===
[[File:Megan Schroeder - 2013 September.jpeg|thumb|Megan, years later, still recovering from her ordeal. Out of frame: [[JERKS|JERK]].]]
The [[Matthew Noble call]] of August 2010 revealed that [[Bob]] and [[Barbara]] disliked and distrusted Megan, believing that she conspired with Michael Snyder and "some [[homos]]exual[s]" to get Chris banned from The GAMe PLACe. Barbara also mentions how Megan "lied" about something, suggesting that she believes Megan to be a troll.

It is possible that this belief originated with Chris, as in his correspondence with [[Katie Bay]], he lists Megan as a "possible troll".<ref>[[Katie_Bay_E-mails_2#26 July]]</ref> His reasoning was typical Chris - she had a vagina and didn't want to give him access to it. He also appears to have [[Autism|confused her with another white female brunette]] that placed a sign on his lawn on [[Halloween]] [[2008]].

=== Chris Doxes Megan ===

A series of leaked Facebook postings beginning in [[February 2012]] revealed Chris' ever-growing, pathological, and extreme hatred for Megan. His animosity for Megan supposedly grew much more vitriolic after buying into his parents' [[Chris and reality|completely baseless]] belief that Megan was responsible for the "Hate and Smear Campaign" against Chris:

{{quote|EVERYONE, I have most urgent news. It is Final in My Mind, and from my mother as an eye and ear witness of her consorting with [[Michael Snyder]] LONG Before Novembef, [[2007]]; Megan Schroeder IS the SEED of the Whole Hate and Smear Campaign Against Me on the [[Internet]]. If any of you all Know where she is, or have clues of her, or her brother...current wherabouts, Please Inform Me on THIS WALL, Posthaste. She is Needed Brought to me, my mother and [[Rob Bell|our attorney]], for Great Questioning, and a Huge Piece of my mind. Thank You, Christian W. Chandler|Chris, Facebook, [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Urgent news|February 18, 2012]]}}

In the following days, Chris posted her contact information in hopes that his friends would troll her. Thankfully, this effort was not successful.

[[File:Fbp10.png|thumb|Chris's moronic attempt at trolling back Megan. He exhibits a belief that if you simply dox people online, they get trolled back, not realizing the large number of reasons why this only happened to him.]]

On 4 April [[2013]], Chris denounced The GAMe PLACe and called for Megan to be "jailed and beaten up", describing her as a "vile, wicked, traitorous bitch"<ref>[[April 2013 Facebook posts#Leaving the Game Place behind]]</ref>—a rare display of hatred upon a woman not seen from Chris since [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. Judging by a 20 July 2013 Facebook post, Chris seems to be holding Schroeder, along with [[Michael Snyder|Snyder]], to be the main culprit behind the various misfortunes he had over the years.<ref>[[July 2013 Facebook Posts#Spring Breakers]]</ref>

=== Megagi La Scapegoat ===

Chris's vitriol for Megan continues almost six years after his ban from [[The GAMe PLACe]], and he has even resorted to using Megan as a scapegoat for everything bad that happens to him even if he is blatantly responsible. In the aftermath of a permaban from [[Wal-Mart]] on the weekend of 7 September 2013 for having vandalized an [[Xbox]] One display, Chris flew into an incoherent rage and began blaming Megan for both his Wal-mart and GAMe PLACe bans:

{{quote|If it had not been for Mr. "[[Manajerk]]", Megan Schroeder, and their Internet Troll/Cyber-Bully Breeding and Meeting Ground, Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys, My Family and I would not have had go through all of the emotionally depressing, and Financial Downfall to [[Financhu Crisis|the depths of Greatly Poor and Just Getting By!]] The Manajerk has drained us financially, thinking we are freaking rich. And Megan has robbed me emotionally, started all of the Hate Against Me on the freaking Internet, Never financially paid me back for ALL of the material favors I bought for her off of eBay, and I WANT MY UNCUT "SAILOR MOON' DVDS FROM SEASONS "R" TO "SAILOR STAR" THAT GERMAN WARFARE BITCH CONNED FROM ME RETURNED TO ME!!!|Chris, Facebook, September 7, 2013}}

[[File:Sept13 Imgur 28.jpg|thumb|left|Megan's fate as a Lego voodoo doll. Notice her goth style clothing.]]
On 24 September 2013, Chris claimed in a Facebook post to have received an email from Daniel Mimms about Megan's current whereabouts. He now classes her with the Witch ([[Mary Lee Walsh]]) and the Bastard ([[Michael Snyder]]), and makes three [[Lego]] minifigs of them and shakes them together as a sort of punishment.<ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Voodoo-Wise]]</ref><ref>[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Yep, the Bitch has not changed a thing...]]</ref> Of course, the notion that Chris can perform [[Wikipedia:Sympathetic magic|sympathetic magic]] to harm his enemies is [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|befitting]] with his [[Chris and reality|other delusions]]. Chris continued to use this Lego minifigure of Megan as a totem to relieve his anger for her, and it appeared a month later "in detention" at [[CWC Lego Manchester High School Oct 18 2013|Lego Manchester High]].

On 3 October 2013, Chris posted another [[October 2013 Facebook Posts#Megagi La Skunk agrees that you should have never been born|rambling tirade directed at Megan]] to Facebook. This time, Chris claimed that [[Megagi La Skunk]], Megan's cartoon character that she probably doesn't even remember making, told him that she is "deeply distrustful" and agrees with Chris that Megan should have never been born. Additionally, as if she would even care, Megan's [[Sailor Megtune]] "powers" were "revoked" by Chris. On top of reiterating the previous "wrongdoings" by Megan, Chris has proven nothing at all, except perhaps that he suffers from [[Chris and reality|some form of]] [[Chris and anger|mental illness.]]

{{quote|
You ungrateful bitch. Quit hiding behind the Anons, Trolls, PLace People and every Damned Person who you have deceived into siding with you.

By the way, I have checked with Megagi La Skunk; she feels deep distrust in you. We mutually agree that you should have never been born, even if it meant she would never exist. Also, your Sailor Megtune powers; I created them for you; I have taken them away from you! Usagi and the Sailor Scouts would have been most ashamed of you.

...And by the way, I pray you have been having Really Bad Luck, Feeling Paranoid of EVERYONE, and Shakingly Stressed, because I continue to leave your minifigure upside-down and shaken with the Witch and the Bastard! And I have been feeling the very same grave emotions myself for the Six Long Years, you damn, dirty bitch!|Chris, Facebook, October 3, 2013}}

Chris ended his first rant with a comment reading "NOBODY ELSE COMMENT THIS POST!!!", possibly because he's tired of having his atrocious behavior called out by even the most ass-patting of his friends. The following day, Chris focused all his blame like a laser beam on Megan, insisting that she is responsible for the [[CWCki]], virtually all of his [[List of places that have banned Chris|bans]], the "theft" of his [[Sailor Moon]] DVDs ''yet again'', and astonishingly, even the fact that he lacks a sweetheart. That's right: not only is Megan the one who's responsible for everything Chris inflicted on himself, but also Chris will ''only'' forgive Megan after he gets [[Chris and sex#Prostitution|unpaid]] [[china]] he feels entitled to.

{{quote|I will only forgive Megan, and remove all curses upon her, when she apologizes to me In Person and Face To Face, when the Cwcki, its forum, and Everything Else Against me on the Freaking Internet is GONE, GONE, GONE, when I am NOT BANNED FROM ANYWHERE, when I get my original Uncut Sailor Moon DVDs returned to me, when my Good Name is Cleared of all of the bad, AND when I have my female Sweetheart for Forever. And I am Not Stepping Down beforehand.|Chris, Facebook, October 4, 2013, 10:09am}}

=== Megan, Queen of the Trolls ===

Roughly two hours later, Chris posted another Facebook message. While seemingly intending to explain the methodology of Megan's master [[troll]] scheme, to everyone else it actually reads more like valid condemnations of Chris' obnoxious behavior by his peers and authority figures. Finally, Chris re-iterated his desire not to hear any criticism from his friends, instructing others not to comment on his post and challenging Megan to a face-to-face meeting. Whether Megan cares enough to challenge, in-person, a delusional 31-year old who lives with his [[Barb|mother]] remains yet to be seen.

{{quote|Megan, I KNOW you and the PLace employee continuously conversed and conspired against me. "Christian is so weird. " "Tell me about it." "He hangs onto me, touching me, clinging onto my every word. Ugh." "I can not stand his shouting outbursts that echos in my head after both of those times he stressed out." "I want to just kill him; destroy his goody-two-shoes nature, soul, heart and all that shit my mashed potato grenade could shatter, but leave his body in tact, so I'm not committed for murder." "I just want to ban him from "MY" store forever." "I got it! Let's get an embarrassing photo of him, post it online, and put him to shame forever!" "Mimms and Lucas are tech freaks! Let's enlist them." "Yeah! Chris will be banned from "YOUR" store based on the hyped up mal online reputation; he will be out of my life forever. Pending possible nightmares and night terrors to come, but who the fuck cares; his Autistic, Fragile mind will shatter along with his heart after I kiss my homosexual fake boyfriend in front of him!" ""HA HA HA HA HA AHA HA HA!!!!!""

I am onto your game that took away six years of my life and destroyed me; you either pay me what you owe, or I continue to curse and haunt you with my father at my side.|Chris, Facebook, October 4, 2013, 12:44pm}}

Chris later deleted the two posts prior to this one; a few hours later, he deleted this one as well.

In late 2020, Chris [[Spirit possession|(while "possessed" by Sonichu)]] revealed that he no longer believed Megan to be a troll, but that "[Chris] was to blame for all of the very stupid impulses and mistakes that ended that friendship."<ref>[[Discord Q&A 11#Chris's Closest Friend]]</ref> This seeming forgiveness may have been spurred on by his belief that Megan is a CPU goddess. It also shows [[Chris and his ego#Persecution complex|Chris's self-serving memory]] in action, considering that she was justified to feel uncomfortable at his unwanted advances on her and understandably creeped out by ShecameforCWC.JPG.

==Years later==
{{quote|I just say let her, wherever she is, live her life, and I'll just stay here, liv- living mine. It's all done and over with.|Chris}}

On 26 January 2016, in the [[CatKnight Interview 2|second CatKnight interview]], Sir Arthur Spatchcock brought up the topic of Megan and the [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Urgent news|grudge]] [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Pissed off|Chris]] [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Damn You|had]] [[February 2012 Facebook Posts#Address|against]] [[October 2013 Facebook Posts#GAMe PLACe revelations|her]]. Chris claims that he has finally gotten over that grudge, wishing for her to be left alone to live her own life.

In February 2017, Chris looked up and browsed through Megan's Facebook account,<ref>[[February 2017 Facebook Posts#Found Megan's Facebook]]</ref> sharing one of her drawings to his own account. When asked by [[Kim Wilson]] if they were friends again, Chris responded:

{{quotebox|Not quite; I just gone through my past and recent sent friend requests, found Megan Schroeder, and I liked her cover photo; it's cute. She has a few cute dogs too. At least, she's doing okay; as far as I can tell.}}

The act of searching for his ex-[[gal pal]] came just four days after Chris posted about his feelings of nostalgia for his "friends" from [[Manchester High]].

Megan was asked about Chris on her Etsy page on July 1 2017. This was her response: <ref>https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aj5gd-lUeHJyhUknNI2IkmGQC1eq</ref>

{{quotebox|'''Hi'''

Thank you very much! Unfortunately with Chris he never learns from his mistakes, he refuses to accept any accountability. When I heard about the house fire, I thought maybe it was a blessing in disguise and he would start a new better life with a clean slate. But from whatI hear, no, he still begs for money and spends it all on legos...

Well thanks for the good wishes, I really appreciate that!}}

On 9 [[October 2017]], Chris once again looked up Megan's Facebook for her online store and left a comment on it:<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_Facebook_posts#Complimenting_Megan_Schroeder</ref>

{{quotebox|I just wanted to tell you I like your craft and are. You have become a lot more talented over the years. Many blessing to you and your family. 🌸}}

The post was later removed.

During the [[Idea Guys]] saga, Chris's belief in multiple dimensions was exploited and his sense of reality hijacked to make changes to many of Chris's characters, concepts and perspective of the real world, with him considering them to be valid. Ideas involving Megan include:

*Megan having the memories of [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Red Heart]], which she earned while in politics.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20190528042422/https://twitter.com/cwcsonichu/status/1015420612494397441</ref>

On 19 [[May 2018]], a full decade after Megan cut off all communications with him, Chris issued a public apology to Megan and her brother and expressed his desire to reopen old wounds by speaking with them:<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/997900592084238336</ref>

{{quotebox|I want to once again humbly apologize to Megan and John Schroeder. I know I did y'all wrong back in the day but time heals all wounds. It would be nice to hear from you with just a simple "hi" or "best of luck". After all of These Years I still need closure.}}

When asked why he would issue this apology publicly when she clearly does not want to be associated with him, Chris responded that he had no choice because she blocked him on Facebook.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/997901813868257281</ref>

On 17 [[October 2018]], Chris declared on [[Twitter]] that if he and Barb received [[Financhu Crisis|enough donations]], he would drive over to Megan's house and take Barb and his "[[Polyamorous marriage|poly-loves]]" with him.<ref>[[October 2018 social media posts#Donation drive to see Megan]]</ref> About nineteen minutes later, he backtracked on his claim after learning from [[The Captain]]<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (The Captain)#Megan's Guns]]</ref> that Megan possesses guns.<ref>[[October 2018 social media posts#Megan's got dat stick]] / https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1052621336751702019</ref>

In [[the Sons of the Miscreants chats]], [[MKRNightVee]] claimed that Chris wanted her to befriend Megan in order to help him resume communication with Megan. MKR declined to get involved out of concern for Megan.

On 4 [[April 2019]], a trailer for the documentary ''[[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]'' was released, which featured brief footage of and narration by a brunette woman, shot from behind, speculated and later confirmed to be Megan herself. [[Geno Samuel]] claimed that Megan actually wanted to physically reunite with Chris, thinking it would be fun; the film's director, Joseph Draft, vetoed this, feeling it would be "too corny and forced".<ref>[[:File:Geno on Draft docu.png]]</ref> [[Naught]] claimed both that Megan later requested that her footage be cut entirely from the film, and that Draft destroyed the hard drive containing the film's only known completed copy.<ref>[[Official CWCki Server chats (Naught)#Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]</ref>

On 20 [[September 2020]], in the [[Watchmen]] discord server, [[The Place]], Chris, while [[Spirit possession|role-playing]] as [[Sonichu]], [[The Place chats - Megan Obsession|described having an emotional breakdown]] over his perceived issues with Megan.
{{quotebox|Mama off and on would also see Megan in her dreams; simply being there. An awkward moment, and Mama’s impulse was to back away and leave her be.

Now, I can move back to last night.

While trying to fall asleep after hitting the hay at about 1:30 am, for Hours, Chris-Core kept on thinking about it and searching further into these emotions and all. This body cried a LOT, and yes, I’ve had to blow its nose.}}
Additionally, Chris further describes his past with Megan, reiterating his desire for a face to face, "heart to heart" chat with her. Near the end of the chat, Chris once again claims that Megan is the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU Goddess Red Heart]] of a rare Nintendo console only released in Germany.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/The_Place_chats_-_Megan_Obsession</ref>

On 7 [[January 2021]], Megan was asked if her association with Chris and the ensuing status of minor internet celebrity that came with it was ever thought about. She gave a [[Honest Content|True and Honest]] response, saying that she doesn't even think of it.<ref>[[:File:Megan question January 2021.png]]</ref>

==Interviews==
During January 2019, a YouTuber by the moniker BazzBe interviewed Megan over Facebook. BazzBe then put together a video narrating the chat.

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===Transcript===
{{quoteboxyellow|[''autistic sigh''] Oh man. Alright, so, like I said earlier in the video [this is part five of a series, he is apparently referring to an earlier part], I did get the chance to speak to Megan today. Um, hold on [fiddles with screen, which due to being 480px is almost completely unreadable on YouTube] ... uh huh, I was [hiding?] the messages.

So basically, I messaged her, uh, it was accidentally, but I messaged her on her business page because apparently she's in business now and, like, cool. So she asked me to talk to her on her normal page, so I did, I found her, and I asked her: so, I'm sure that you know what I want to talk about, things from past events.

She said: '''Oh yeah, you know, Chris.'''

And I told her, like, I'm very drawn to the story, I've been covering it on YouTube, and I figured it would be cool if I could contact to you so I could see how things, like, how you feel about it nowadays.

She goes: '''Well honestly, I don't follow his antics at all, I've seen a few recent things from someone that alerts me that he's doing things regarding me or whatever.'''

And I asked her, well, were you ever really friends, or did you just feel pity for him?

She said, '''No, I'd say despite his advances, it was a good friendship. He was a lot of fun to converse with. People think that I was using him for things.''' (Which I've heard a lot of people say she was just using him to buy things, but it's been like fifteen years, what would she gain from lying to us?) '''People think that I've been using him for things, but I'd always presented him gifts for his birthday or Christmas. Things from eBay I would either give cash or trade for mangas or DVDs or whatever.'''

I said, did you ever think you would reunite, how do you feel about ... sorry I'm tired ... how do you feel about being a part of all this and having a fanbase?

And she said, '''I didn't know I had fans too.'''

[''Vaguely thirsty grin''] You do! '''Personally I think it's best to stay away and not be involved with him again.''' I said, yeah, you do have a fanbase, and you're definitely the saddest part of the story in my opinion. I do generally believe that, now I know a lot about some of the upcoming stuff that's coming to the fore but I will say Megan was the part where it started going downhill. She was the beginning of the snowball effect, and I think that's when the rock bottom starts to come if you know what I mean, 'cause that was like, the last real friend he had before he fucked it all up.

Ah, ok, where was I at?

'''Comparing him now, I'd say he was definitely more normal during my time with him. That's saying something.'''

How many others have contacted you over this?

'''Oh, I couldn't keep count. It's always been through facebook and as well as Etsy, it's always been half and half condolences and trolls, weens trying to get a reaction or a reply out of me.'''

I told her I was just fascinated by the whole thing and I'm happy to have contacted you and have you take the time to take part in this. And she didn't mind, I was very awesome, I mean, damn that's cool. I was always, oh, I'm sorry, I was wanting to interview her on Discord so I could record our voices talking about it, but honestly I didn't think she would know how to use Discord, [''strange noise''], I'm not saying anything bad, she's a little bit older than me, also, it was like 9:30 in the morning so ... I told her I was sorry to bother her and I understand this might be effecting your life in a negative way because I understand about the artwork and stuff. And she said well, not necessarily, I made a couple of really close friends because of it, I think there's a misconception out there that the whole thing traumatized me which isn't the case at all.

That's good. That's actually something I was curious about. And I asked her [''laughs''], does she still enjoy Sailor Moon and My Little Pony?

She said, '''I have a Sailor Moon collection but I don't actively collect it anymore. It's been both a hobby and an investment. A few dolls sell now on eBay for $500 each. That's for Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokemon, and MLP''' -- My Little Pony [''autistic smirk''] -- '''I sold those off a few years ago. I still play 3DS games and have a few Pikachu plush but I'm not into the whole anime fandom thing.'''

OK, fair enough. I asked her do you still remain in Virginia or did you escape?

She said she's still in Virginia and she's done some traveling around and overseas. So, then she told me that she was going to take her dogs or go feed her animals, and I said that was fine, but then I just went ahead and said hey, let's just postpone the rest of this and we'll just finish up tomorrow or, like, another day. Um ... yeah [''smirks again''] There's so much more I want to find out and I want to see, like, what all she's willing to discuss, but if you're interested in, like, I wouldn't say contacting, because I don't want anyone to really harass this woman, let her live her life.

If you are interested in buying one of her, uh, forest things ... I didn't actually really take the time to look at these, they're kind of cool ... [''weird smile, long pause''] ... but yeah, if you're interested in like, buying one of these, um, I'd say contact her, they look pretty interesting and you know some people have, like, a thing for cute animals, and I think I might just buy one, just to promote, so, thank you Megan, I really appreciate you taking the time to talk to me about this stuff today. Hopefully we can continue this and go a little bit deeper into it, but, alright. Thank you guys for washing, I really appreciate it, drop me a like, subscribe, help me out, and I will see you guys for part six. I can't wait. Goodnight.}}

A lost interview was also conducted at some point during 2019, for the cancelled ''[[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]'' documentary, however, the director got cold feet and refused to release any of the documentary footage. A single line of Megan's from the interview is preserved from the documentary's trailer: "Now, he... he seems like a totally different person to me."

==Gallery==

===Art by Megan===
<center><gallery>
Image:061-MegansSailorMoonCD.jpg|[[Sailor Moon]]
Image:313-MegansSMoon.jpg|Sailor Moon
Image:316-MegagiOriginal.jpg|[[Megagi La Skunk]] ~ The pose in this and the following few drawings are traced from [http://info.sonicretro.org/File:Advance2_sonic.png this artwork] of [[Sonic the Hedgehog]].
Image:318-HoundHowl.jpg|Hound Howl, which Chris reused as "Canino the Houndhowl" in the [[Wedding Comic]].
Image:319-PendingDoom.jpg|An OC based on the [[Pokémon]] Houndoom.
Image:320-Apocolypse.jpg|An OC based on Absol.
Image:321-IceCune.jpg|An OC based on Suicune.
Image:322-houdourstuff.jpg
Image:Megan ace of clubs.JPG|"Ace of Clubs" ~ Megan's original design for [[Patti-chan]], until Chris stole the design.
Image:Megyoshimitsu1.jpg|[[wikipedia:Yoshimitsu|Yoshimitsu]] drawing, made in [[1990s|1996]].<ref name="tekken forces">[https://web.archive.org/web/20091012030656/http://www.tekkenforces.com/fanart/fanartgmegimitsu.php Tekken Forces Fanart Gallery]</ref>
Image:Megyoshimitsu2.jpg|''[[Wikipedia:The Powerpuff Girls|Powerpuff Girls]]''-style Yoshimitsu<ref name="tekken forces"/>
</gallery></center>

===Art of Megan===
<center><gallery>
Image:Sonichu07-P03.jpg
Image:Sonichu07-P04.jpg
Image:Sonichu07-P05.jpg|KINDA OF A [[Dragon Ball|GOKU-GET-EM]] ATTITUDE. :)
Image:129-ChrisChanMegtune.jpg
Image:305-ACMegan.jpg
Image:306-ACMeganBck.jpg
Image:307-MegSch.jpg
Image:311-RedDarkMeggician.jpg
Image:312-PeanutsMegan.jpg|Another [[wikipedia:Schroeder (Peanuts)|Schroeder]].
File:ModNation GalPal.jpg|He just can't let go...
File:Sept13 Imgur 28.jpg|[[LEGO]] voodoo doll of Megan.
File:Lego2 - 24 September 2013.jpeg|He keeps it upside down to torture her.
File:Lego3 - 24 September 2013.jpeg|When he feels REALLY angry, he shakes it.
File:Meganfight 26.jpg|Chris victorious over the evil bitch.

</gallery></center>

===Miscellaneous===
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Image:323-MegansDarkChao.JPG
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==References==
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The Place chats - Megan Obsession

2023-07-31T03:37:02Z

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{{SonichuPossession}}

On 20 [[September 2020]], Chris posted in the [[Watchmen]] Discord server [[The Place]] about his obsessive thoughts on [[Megan Schroeder]]. Chris described having had an emotional breakdown, sobbing over her, and vented about his perceived issues with Megan.

==Chat==
{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|I’m back. I will give the app a download and a go to check it out in a little while.

Anyway

The “[[Chris Chan VS. The Internet]]” trailer

I loved it; still love it; can’t say that enough about it, genuinely.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=Naught|I hate to be the bearer of bad news but once the footage was recorded Megan and others involved started to get harassed by randoms on the internet so Joe destroyed it}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|It's a neat idea, I ain't got much experience with movies, but independent stuff is a hard sell, easier than games, but anything is.}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|There were two parts that really move me, one of which further moved the core of this body (Chris-Core):}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=Naught|[[File:Draft Interview hard drive.jpg|200px]]}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|I was in awe seeing Mama as she was drawing me yet again. It is always so fascinating to me, no matter how many times I see it; it just gives me an inspired rush to continue on being myself.

I believe a lot of the [[OCs]] feel that way of their respective chroniclers who draw them.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=Naught|Yes the cinematography was good}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|And the bonus at the end; personally confirming that is indeed [[Megan Schroeder]], herself, and her voice as she spoke.}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|Simpler is generally happier.}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|It felt like closure that generally made Chris-Core, and in that matter would do the same with Mama, herself, awe in surprise. Like seeing someone who died suddenly come back to life after years of being gone.}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|Things happen, people move away, it's generally not productive to focus on that.}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|And, also, this brain could hear and sense her emotions in her voice, even though we all know in her gang-ho type, she would hardly admit it initally.
There were genuine feelings of remorse and regret in her voice. (edited)}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=Naught|Did you experience a sense of closure?}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|And the empathy kicked in as well; putting us in her point of view and perspective for a moment.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=Naught|Or finality? At least in regards to that portion of mama's life?}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|Closure is distance, letting go isn't weakness it's a strength.}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|It is obvious. She was caught up on just about the basics of everything that happened with Mama from after [[April 2008|April, 2008]], when [[Megan]] last saw Mama.

And, Chris-Core ended up thinking further and further, and there’s still the emotional baggage that feels need to be sorted out, and can only be done so between Mama, herself, and Megan, in a heart-to-heart talk.}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|What is there honestly left to say?}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|Yes, Mama feels guilt for being touch-feel with Megan on her shoulders and hair (she didn’t touch anything else on her body, and only one time, the two of them did hold hands for a moment). (edited)}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=Naught|When the trailer for that documentary was released whole bunch of people flooded her Facebook and vandalized her website where she's trying to sell her goods (edited)}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|Let sleeping dogs lie, just think that thing fits best.}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|Mama realized that she had tried too hard to be close to Megan, and Megan was right in closing herself emotionally off from Mama.}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|It's about respect, fuck, I've burned bridges, let things lie.}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|She realized she could have done better in keeping personal space and doing better in respect and being a friend.

I will also point out, clear and true:

Although Mama did have a very small hormonal feeling around Megan, as she was attracted to women, obviously, but for the majority of their time together, sex was literally the farthest thing in her mind.}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|I'd leave it up to her own discretion.}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|And then Mama found [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]], and started going NSFW in her drawing.}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|It's awkward and, strange circumstances considering.}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|And then, out of frustration, the “[[ShecameforCWC.JPG|She Came for CWC]]” drawing.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=Naught|I understand that aspect especially in regards to Mama's Gal Pals Megan was one of Mama's first true friends}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|Mama said she had drawn that out of wishful thinking; only partly true.}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|Some of these things, won't come off as well as others.}}

{{quoteboxmagenta|speaker=MKRNightVee|It's sad how things happened. But we learn and do better in the future. Its how we grow}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|Megan was also using Mama, as well as trolling her; taking advantage of her kindness and loyalty.}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|Things like that, would come off wrong...}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|The merchandise Mama had bought for Megan and getting compensated in trade with “merchandise from Megan’s collection of things”.

Mama never ever read any of the manga she received from Megan.
And all of those things she bought for Megan, I tell you all in strict confidence, just kept piling onto her credit card debt at the time.

Mama really should have been paid cash, but she was used.}}

{{quoteboxmagenta|speaker=MKRNightVee|That's no good...}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|So planning out, how would you plan about ordering these topics, it's not coming off in a good light verbatim.}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|And there was also that time Mama witnessed Megan making out with her beard of a fake boyfriend (the dude was obviously a [[gay]] boy) that literally shocked Mama to the core.}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|Least waiting for her to reach out would at least get rid of a lot of awkwardness.}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|And shortly after, while speaking in a monotone robot voice out of the shock and stress while playing a game of Pokemon TCG with one of the other players, [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] took that infamous photo of her that ended up on Encyclopedia Dramatica.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=Naught|Well sometimes people want to explore and oddly enough someone who is gay would be the optimal choice since in theory they don't want anything further}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|Mama’s real reason for drawing that Came piece was out of frustration she was subconsciously feeling from Megan continually playing her on and on and making her spend money for Megan.

A freaking ZUNE.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Lainchu|True, it can remain an experiment without risk of either of them catching feelings}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|Megan wanted a freaking ZUNE, and she bought it for her for some of her “merchandise”.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=Naught|Hahaha I remember zunes}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|Well, odds are that won't go down well mentioning.

I just remember the leap year bug.}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|Another one for one of Mama’s credit card accounts.

And when Mama and [[Barb]] were being “Escorted” out of [[The GAMe PLACe|the PLace]] by [[Snyder]], Megan was there, watching, as Mama was being forced out.}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|It was a poor decision at the time, I can't say as this is a very well considered plan... Just saying.}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|Megan could have spoken in Mama’s defense, but she did not.

Mama had said in an uploaded video that she had forgiven Megan, but there’s still the emotional baggage.

There are certain aspects that would have been really different with Mama had Megan not push Mama away like that.

Coming out as a Transwoman would still be a highly likely eventual, regardless.}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|Well realistically how does something like this come off? From her perspective?}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|But the damage was massive.

Mama off and on would also see Megan in her [[dreams]]; simply being there. An awkward moment, and Mama’s impulse was to back away and leave her be.

Now, I can move back to last night.

While trying to fall asleep after hitting the hay at about 1:30 am, for Hours, Chris-Core kept on thinking about it and searching further into these emotions and all. This body cried a LOT, and yes, I’ve had to blow its nose.

I, [[Rosechu|Rosey]] and [[Cryzel]], even [[Val]], tried to calm it down, but it could not be helped.

And the Fitbit didn’t register body rest until about 2:30, and there were awake gaps until finally falling asleep and having a dream at what felt like about 5:30 am.

Yet I still managed to get five and a half hours of rest, despite all of that.

But there was a lot of No Sleep.

Chris-Core got all of its emotions out.

I encouraged and supported that the emotions needed to be felt and addressed.}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|Just saying be measured about some of these things, odds aren't fantastic all things considered.}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|Copy that, Kyle.}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|Realistically would she want to make contact again, if so, why?}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|Anyway, I felt like a half-awake mess getting up, it’s after midnight now, yesterday morning at about 10:00 am, and I had the Porygon Day and all that fated and foreseen bunch of things to do.

Realistically, the way this noggin interprets it and recalls her personality, Megan does have her remorse and regret, and certainly remaining issues that have to be dealt with directly with Mama. But would she do it? She’d likely want to tough it out and keep it to herself, but there is the possibility she would realize she would have to face Mama again and want to get it over with.}}

{{quoteboxpurple|speaker=Val|This game can serve as a love letter to those who have helped mama Chris Chan.

Even a bit of a fuck you to the haters.}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|These eyes are still feeling nearly dry after all of that crying last night.}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|That's well, tough to do right...}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|Yep. The Sonichu/Rosechu Dating Sim.}}

{{quoteboxpurple|speaker=Val|Hidden details, I mean.}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=The WCT|[''quotes Chris's "Realistically, the way this noggin interprets it and recalls her personality, Megan does have her remorse and regret, and certainly remaining issues that have to be dealt with directly with Mama. But would she do it? She’d likely want to tough it out and keep it to herself, but there is the possibility she would realize she would have to face Mama again and want to get it over with." line'']

We all want closure.}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|Yes.}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|Part of closure is, well closure...}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|Thanks, Neko.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=Naught|The issue isn't so much with Mama but the issue lies with the fact that so much of this is in the public domain and that would further complicate even ruin her business (edited)}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|It's a big split, things might have sucked, but things are, apart from now, closed off fairly well.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=Naught|You know trouble some fans and fake fans}}

{{quoteboxmagenta|speaker=MKRNightVee|I never knew that megan was such a jerk to your mama, I'm sorry she had to go through that.}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|Only sense of closure now is letting go.}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|By the way, Megan is still a CPU, herself, and her self-counterpart in [[C-197]]; CPU Red Heart of the obscure German Nintendo Console that is hardly able to be found most anywhere; online information is scarce about it.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=Naught|.img German Nintendo console}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|Nope

Not an NES}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|The market for that, unless, famiclone?
Makes no sense, more familiar with Brazilian fakes.

How close to Nintendo?

I think I might know something with maybe similar hardware?}}

{{quoteboxmagenta|speaker=MKRNightVee|I think I might know this console

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interton_Video_Computer_4000 }}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=Naught|Inherton}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|According to Mama’s memory when she tried to find it online, it was an officially licensed product by Nintendo, exclusive to Germany, and released around the time of the Virtual Boy console, but it’s not the VB.}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|So prior to 95'}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=Naught|1978?}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|Handheld?}}

{{quoteboxmagenta|speaker=MKRNightVee|It's my best guess?}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|I might know one or two regional things.

A German exclusive would be poor marketing considering associated manufacturing costs.

Several early microcomputers that are similar enough in design.}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|It was as rare as a SEGA Neptune.

But not as rare, I’m certain.}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|So how would it have a region, prototypes aren't that specific.

If microcomputers work, I can find a few systems.}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|All I can do is consult with the Cosmos further about this console, and even then I’d end up with vague details about it.}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|Like there's the Supervision, uses a 6502 variant.}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|Part of its backstory was that it ended up being not a very good console, and Germany wanted all records of it be stripped from historic databases and catalogs, and so forth.

Either that, or Germany had some sort of thing against video games at the time.

[[Messiah complex|Oh, my Chris Chan.]]

Anyway}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|First one, not really feasible, Berlin wall already came down.

East Germany might have more specifics, but that would be a minimum 5 year gap.}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=The WCT|[''quotes Chris's "Either that, or Germany had some sort of thing against video games at the time." line'']

East Germany or West Germany?}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|I’m feeling like I want to hit the hay very soon. But I wanted to share all of that with y’all.

Mostly in confidence, of course.

But also to sort out details between Mama and Megan.}}

{{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Lainchu|Any part of this you want made public, or are we keeping it all here?}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|Anyway, thank you all for listening.}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=The WCT|We're glad you've came to chat with us as always.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=Naught|Ok let's make it a regular occurrence so we can hammer out these issues}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|There's Robotron?}}

{{quoteboxred|speaker=The WCT|We're always around. @Sonichu982}}

{{quoteboxmagenta|speaker=MKRNightVee|Rest well sonichu}}

{{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Lainchu|Goodnight}}

{{quoteboxpurple|speaker=Val|Sleep well.}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|Used a Z80 knockoff, those are very common.}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|Let me get back to you on that, Lainchu.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=Naught|Nite nite}}

{{quoteboxgreen|speaker=Lainchu|Sure thing

I only ask because of the "mostly in confidence" mention}}

{{quoteboxorange|speaker=Kyle|25k tops, discontinued mid 90's.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=Naught|I'm pretty sure Megan wants to be left out of this [[MKRNightVee|Meghan]] knows about it}}

{{quoteboxyellow|speaker=Chris (as Sonichu)|Thanks. I’ll see you later, Val. Hop back into this body if you need to once again to make further adjustments.}}

{{quoteboxnavy|speaker=Naught|Nobody else needs to know in my opinion}}

{{quoteboxpurple|speaker=Val|I'm here to help.}}

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{{WatchmenLeaks}}

Help:A CWC Guide to Wiki Editing

2023-07-30T18:12:26Z

Lilacraven: /* Tables */

Editing the [[CWCki]] does not and should not depend on knowledge about Chris. One can have no idea who Chris is and still be a valued CWCki editor. The following is a "cwc" (pronounced "quick") guide to the basics of wiki editing.

==Editing==
Editing most CWCki pages is simple. Simply click on the "'''edit'''" tab at the top of a CWCki page. This will bring you to a new page with a text box containing the editable text of the current page.

===Minor edits===

A check to the "minor edit" box signifies that only superficial differences exist between the version with your edit and the previous version: typo corrections, formatting and presentational changes, rearranging of text without modifying content, etc.

===Talk (discussion) pages===

Talk pages are similar to articles in that they also have a "new section" tab to start a new section or edit the whole page. One thing to remember is that that are exclusively for discussing improvements made to the article, they are
[[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not to discuss the article's subject itself.]]

==Formatting==
===Sections===
====Section headings====
Use headings to split articles into sections. Put a heading on a separate line. A level-two heading is the highest level editors use in an article.

{| class="wikitable"
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<div style="font-size:150%;border-bottom:1px solid rgb(170,170,170);">Section headings</div>

''Headings'' organize your writing into sections.
The Wiki software can automatically generate
a table of contents from them.
Start with 2 'equals' characters.

<div style="font-size:132%;font-weight:bold;">Subsection</div>
Using more 'equals' characters creates a subsection.

<div style="font-size:116%;font-weight:bold;">A smaller subsection</div>

Don't skip levels, like from two to four 'equals' characters.

;A non-TOC subsection
A semicolon at the start of a line is a way of making headings
that don't appear in the Table of Contents. It actually bolds the
entire line (see [[#Text formatting|below]]).
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==Section headings==

''Headings'' organize your writing into sections.
The Wiki software can automatically generate
a table of contents from them.
Start with 2 'equals' characters.

===Subsection===

Using more 'equals' characters creates a subsection.

====A smaller subsection====

Don't skip levels, like from two to four 'equals' characters.

;A non-TOC subsection
A semicolon at the start of a line is a way of making headings
that don't appear in the [[WP:TOC|TOC]]. It actually bolds the
entire line (see [[#Text formatting|below]]).
</pre>
|-
|'''Horizontal line'''
Separating with a horizontal dividing line: 
:this is above it...
----
:...and this is below it.

If you don't use a section header, you don't get a TOC entry.
|<pre><nowiki>'''Horizontal line'''
Separating with a horizontal dividing line:
:this is above it...
----
:...and this is below it.
If you don't use a section header, you don't get a TOC entry.

</nowiki></pre>
|}

====Table of contents====
When a page has at least four headings, a table of contents (TOC) will appear in front of the first header (after the lead). Putting <nowiki>__TOC__</nowiki> anywhere forces the TOC to appear at that point (instead of just before the first heading). Putting <nowiki>__NOTOC__</nowiki> anywhere forces the TOC to disappear. Putting <nowiki>__FORCETOC__</nowiki> anywhere will force the TOC to appear at that point, but also create the TOC, regardless of how many sections the article has.

===Line breaks===
* You can make the wikitext more readable by putting in newlines.
* To break lines use the <code><nowiki> </nowiki></code> element. The HTML tag <code><nowiki> </nowiki></code> will be converted to the XHTML <code><nowiki> </nowiki></code> tag by HTML Tidy in most instances.
* Please use these sparingly.
* Close markup between lines; do not start a link or ''italics'' or '''bold''' on one line and close it on the next.
* When used in a list, a newline ''does'' affect the layout.
{| class="wikitable"
! style="width: 50%" | What it looks like
! style="width: 50%" | What you type
|-
|
A single newline has no
effect on the layout.

But an empty line starts a new paragraph, or ends a list or indented part.
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<pre><nowiki>
A single newline has no
effect on the layout.

But an empty line starts a new paragraph, or ends a list or indented part.
</nowiki></pre>
|-
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without starting a new paragraph.
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<pre><nowiki>You can break lines 
without starting a new paragraph.</nowiki></pre>
|}

===Indent text===

{| class="wikitable"
! What it looks like
! What you type
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'''Left indent'''
|-
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:A colon at the start of a line
::causes the line to be indented,
:::most commonly used on Talk pages.
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<pre><nowiki>
:A colon at the start of a line
::causes the line to be indented,
:::most commonly used on Talk pages.
</nowiki></pre>
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'''Blockquote''' 
When there is a need for separating a block of text. This is useful for (as the name says) inserting blocks of quoted (and cited) text.
|-
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<blockquote>
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</blockquote>
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<code><nowiki>
<blockquote>
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</blockquote>
</nowiki></code>
|}

===Center text===
{| class="wikitable"
! style="width: 50%" | What it looks like
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|-
|<div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;">Centered text</div>
|<code><nowiki><div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;">Centered text</div> </nowiki></code>
|}

===Lists===
{| class="wikitable"
! style="width: 50%" | What it looks like
! style="width: 50%" | What you type
|- id="lists"
|
* ''Unordered lists'' are easy to do:
** Start every line with a star.
*** More stars indicate a deeper level.
**: Previous item continues.
** A new line
* in a list
marks the end of the list.
*Of course you can start again.
|<pre>
* ''Unordered lists'' are easy to do:
** Start every line with a star.
*** More stars indicate a deeper level.
**: Previous item continues.
** A new line
* in a list
marks the end of the list.
* Of course you can start again.
</pre>
|-
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# ''Numbered lists'' are:
## Very organized
## Easy to follow
#: Previous item continues
A new line marks the end of the list.
# New numbering starts with 1.

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# ''Numbered lists'' are:
## Very organized
## Easy to follow
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A new line marks the end of the list.
# New numbering starts with 1.
</pre>
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===Tables===

{| class="wikitable"
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! scope="col" | Required
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| Optional
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! scope="row" | Table header cell
| {{kbd|<nowiki>!</nowiki>}}
| Optional
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| {{nowrap|{{kbd|<nowiki>|</nowiki>}} or {{kbd|<nowiki>||</nowiki>}}}}
| Optional
| Consecutive table data cells may be added on same line separated by double marks (<code><nowiki>||</nowiki></code>) or start on new lines, each with its own single mark (<code><nowiki>|</nowiki></code>). This mark is also used to separate [[wikipedia:HTML attribute|HTML attributes]] from cell and caption contents.
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==See also==
[[Help:A_Quick_Guide_to_CWCki|A Quick Guide to CWCki]]

{{stub}}

Bob Chandler

2023-07-30T18:06:39Z

Lilacraven: /* Biography */

{{Needs Updating|[[The Place chats - ProjectSNT#Browsing Kiwi Farms]]}}
{{quote|It was an interesting life I had.|Bob, at peace.}}

{{quote|I had more freedom when he was alive.|Chris, reflecting on his life prior to his father's death.<ref name=LoudNoise>[[February 2017 Facebook Posts#Claiming hospital staff killed Bob]]</ref>}}

{{quote|I don't believe he ever, Mr. C, any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks.|Chris, honoring Bob's memory by claiming that [[Affair with Mother|he was better at fucking]] [[Barbara Chandler|the man's wife]] [[Chris and his ego|than he ever was]].<ref>[[Incest Call]]</ref>}}

{{Infobox Person
| name = Robert Franklin Chandler Jr.
| image = Chrischansdad.jpg
|imagesize = 250
|name = Robert Franklin Chandler Jr.
|aliases = Bob Bobby Mr. C [[Bob Walks In|Internet Lumberjack]] [[:File:Chandler family as ponies.png|Gallop Crush]] Robertchu<ref>[[List of beliefs brainwashed into Chris#Sonichu genealogy for Chris, Bob and Ted Bundy]]</ref>
|label3 = Date of Birth
|day = 4
|month = 9
|year = 1927
|deathday = 6
|deathmonth = 9
|deathyear = 2011
|gender = Male
|nationality = [[United States|American]]
|race = White [[Count Dankula|Half-Sonichu]]<ref>Planted by [[Idea Guys#Lingering influence|Idea Guy]], mentioned in [[Count Dankula]] interview</ref>
|religion = Protestant (Methodist)
|spouse = Patricia Faye Harley (1956–1980) [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara Ann Weston]] (1980–2011)
|children = Dr. David Alan Chandler Carol Suzanne Chandler [[Christian Weston Chandler]] [[Cole Smithey]] (stepson)
|grandchildren = [[Savannah Chandler]]
|father = Robert Franklin Chandler Sr. (1906–1977)
|mother = Jean Holloman (1906–1945)
|education = [[wikipedia:Auburn_University|Auburn University]] ([[wikipedia:Bachelor of Electrical Engineering|BEE]]) [[wikipedia:Jacksonville_State_University|Jacksonville State University]] (did not graduate)
|occupation = Military communications Engineer Inventor
|saga = {{saga|childhood|cn}}, {{saga|greene|cn}}, {{saga|bearstein|cn}}, {{saga|gameplace|cn}}, {{saga|julie|cn}}, {{saga|emily|cn}}, {{saga|ivy|cn}}, {{saga|liquid|cn}}, {{saga|asperchu|cn}}, {{saga|secondexile|cn}}
}}

'''Robert "Bob" Franklin Chandler Jr.'''<ref>[[Blanca E-mails#Chris likes Blanca|Email to Blanca]]</ref> (4 September [[Pre-1980#1920s|1927]] – 6 September [[2011]]<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20180110224343/http://www.harveypowers.com/wynn/wynn/d155.html</ref>) was the father of [[Christian Weston Chandler]], [[Carol Chandler]] and [[David Alan Chandler]], the stepfather of [[Cole Smithey]], and husband of [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara Weston Chandler]]. Bob became a firm favorite with [[trolls]] due to Chris's antipathy towards him and for his infamous cameo when he [[Bob Walks In|walked in]] on Chris [[mass debating]].<ref>[[Bob Walks In]]</ref> His nickname, "The [[Chris and the Internet|Internet]] Lumberjack", came from this incident, wherein he promised to cut the internet down.

Despite being estranged from his other children and despised by his stepson for abusive behavior, Bob was widely viewed as a better parent than his wife [[Barbara]] by Christorians, and – as far as Chris's own testimony can be trusted – he treated Chris better than any of his previous children. Bob had serious difficulties working with Chris's [[autism]], a disorder that he and his wife did not fully understand, but nonetheless, he had high hopes for his child in spite of the difficulties that he faced. Bob hoped to instill Chris with a variety of interests that reflected his own varied tastes, and he created The Dreaming Studio in their backyard in the hopes that they'd create things there (though, sadly, nothing of note was created there).

Because of this, Bob's popularity stems from being somewhat concerned with Chris's foolish behavior, and the fact that he occasionally tried to encourage a modicum of responsibility in Chris's sorry life, bringing up the fact that he devoted 29 years to raising his son. Of course, Chris was almost entirely unaffected by Bob's efforts to better him, but unlike Barb he at least made the effort. That being said, he also encouraged Chris to ''not'' seek employment in favor of getting [[Monthly Tugboat|welfare]], even though Chris could still hold a part-time job and receive those benefits, so he's not entirely blameless for the sorry state that his son is in today, either. Not to mention that many of [[Homos|Chris's more backward]] [[Chris and race|social perspectives]] that he had in the "Classic Era" stem from his influence.

Bob was always eager to chat, and indeed much of the known information about Bob's life comes from conversations he had with trolls. (It seems that Chris's passion for [[Honest Content]] did not fall too far from that tree, although Bob at least had a filter that his son lacks.) Whether in person or over the phone Bob appeared to relish the opportunity to speak with just about anyone.

On 6 September 2011, Bob died of complications from heart failure at Martha Jefferson Hospital ICU, surrounded by his family, his pastor and hospital staff.<ref name="BobObitarchive">http://web.archive.org/web/20130211071324/http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dailyprogress/obituary.aspx?n=robert-franklin-chandler&pid=153539600 (archive from 11 Feb 2013)</ref> He was survived by his wife and son, who now had to become the man of the house occasionally raked in some income through commission work, though he has never looked for a serious career. Chris initially came to terms with his father's death in a conventional, healthy way, but eventually turned to a [[Chris and coping|coping]] mechanism where he genuinely believed that his father was alive in [[Dimensions|another dimension]] as a [[Sonichu (species)|Sonichu]] named Robertchu.

Years later in 2021, Chris repeatedly cuckolded his own father by having dubiously-consensual sex with his wife in an [[Affair with Mother|incest]]-based affair, with Chris bragging that he could get Barb off better than "Mr. C" ever could. Following this incident, both were separated from the house that he maintained, with Chris jailed, Barb temporarily hospitalized, and the Dreaming Studio left abandoned.

According to Chris, he was also a strong negotiator.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/The_Place_chats_-_ProjectSNT_and_Opuscon789#Browsing_Kiwi_Farms</ref>

==Biography==
Bob was born in {{w|Fort Worth, Texas}} at 4:15 PM,<ref name="Prank calls">[[Prank calls]]</ref> and raised in {{w|Sylacauga, Alabama}}.<ref name="About">[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#About Bob (7:18 - 16:45)]]</ref> He was the only child of Robert Franklin Chandler Sr. (8 February 1906<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/103153414/robert-franklin-chandler ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328063730/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/H5S7-BZM archive])</ref> – 27 December 1977<ref>https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG5R-6M6 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328072547/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG5R-6M6 archive])</ref>), an Alabamian insurance agent, and Jean Holloman (28 March 1906<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/5947049/jean-chandler ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328094240/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/H5S7-12M archive])</ref> – 10 May 1945<ref>https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JK33-QW8 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328092829/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JK33-QW8 archive])</ref>), a Texan housewife.<ref>[[:File:Bob Chandler's birth certificate.jpg]]</ref> Bob has eight younger half-siblings on his father's side.<ref>https://www.hufffuneralhome.com/obituary/Dorothy-Chandler</ref> He also mentioned having a cousin and several [[Cherokee]] relatives in Oklahoma.<ref>[[Prank calls#Bob Calls Himself]]</ref><ref>[[Prank calls#A Redneck calls Bob Chandler]]</ref> However, a distant relative disputed his Cherokee heritage,<ref>[[Chandler Family Tree#Ancestry.com content]]</ref> and his son's [[Cherokian Clan#Reality|DNA test results]] in 2018 belied any American Indian descent. It is common for white Southerners to make dubious claims to Cherokee ancestry, for a variety of historical reasons.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201210120042/https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2015/10/cherokee-blood-why-do-so-many-americans-believe-they-have-cherokee-ancestry.html Slate article]</ref>

Bob has said that he was "interested in the world" around him since he was ten, and began collecting foreign [[stamps]] as a child in the [[1930s]]; his first stamp was of {{w|Michael I of Romania}}. He also developed an interest in foreign music, eventually collecting some 15,000–20,000 LPs from various genres and cultures.<ref name="PSN 37"/> About 100 or so survived the 2014 [[house fire]].<ref>[[Discord Q&A 4#Bob's record collection]]</ref>

Bob joined the [[wikipedia:Boy Scouts of America|Boy Scouts]], becoming an Eagle Scout and a Scoutmaster for over 20 years.<ref>[[Bob's Letters to Chris]]</ref>

According to Chris, Bob lost his [[virgin with rage|virginity]] at the age of 27, which would have been in 1954 or 1955.<ref>[[January 2012 Facebook Posts#February is coming up]]</ref>

===Service and education===

A 1942 yearbook from Sylacauga High School lists a "Bobby Chandler" in the freshman class and glee club, suggesting that he graduated from this school in spring 1945 before matriculating at {{w|Auburn University}} as an aeronautical engineering major that autumn.

[[File:Chris Korean War Graphic.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Bob served in Korea, and, thankfully for Chris, who believes that he was a sperm carried in one of his father's testicles during that time, he left before the Korean War broke out.]]

Bob apparently had knowledge that the Army desired,<ref>(Majoring in Aeronautical Engineering, Auburn University, Freshman p. 95 of the 1946 yearbook [https://web.archive.org/web/20170725175556/http://content.lib.auburn.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/gloms/id/4124/rec/14])</ref> was conscripted as a special draftee in 1946 and placed in the {{w|Signal Corps (United States Army)|Signal Corps}}. There, he learned how to install valve systems, switchboards, and telephones. After basic training and Signal School, Bob was sent to Korea for a year to install infrastructure with the American occupation force. Serving until 1948, he was entitled to the WWII Victory Medal: his service number was 44107856.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201210120633/https://aad.archives.gov/aad/record-detail.jsp?dt=893&mtch=11&tf=F&q=Chandler&bc=&sort=24996%2520desc&rpp=10&pg=4&rid=8565331&rlst=5136538%2C4652469%2C8564216%2C1000879%2C987835%2C4549799%2C991002%2C8565331%2C5188385%2C8565346]</ref> Figuring he'd get "swallowed up" at a big college, Bob picked a small college, {{w|Jacksonville State Teachers College}} (now Jacksonville State University), after leaving the military. He studied pre-engineering and joined the band there for two years before returning to Auburn University, where he studied electrical engineering and graduated in 1952 with a {{w|Bachelor of Electrical Engineering}} degree.<ref>(page 269 of the 1952 yearbook)[https://web.archive.org/web/20170725175342/http://content.lib.auburn.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/gloms/id/16173/rec/20] {{w|G.I. Bill}}.</ref><ref name="About" /> As an engineer, he never learned to spell properly.<ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#The Date Begins (4:47 - 7:17)]]</ref> While he was at Auburn, he was part of the band once again, the {{w|Wesley Foundation}}, a [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|United Methodist]] religious group,; and Phi Mu Alpha, a social frat dedicated to men who are interested in music.

===Career===
[[File:Bob 25th Anniversary at General Electric.jpg|thumb|200px|Article on Bob's 25th anniversary at General Electric.]]

Bob worked for {{w|Western Electric}} as an engineer for 40 years. There he designed a variety of electrical subsystems. During the 1950s, he lived in [[wikipedia:Winston-Salem, North Carolina|Winston-Salem, North Carolina]], where his father and half of his half-siblings were also living at for the rest of their life. He was then offered a job by [[wikipedia:General Electric|General Electric]] in [[wikipedia:Utica, New York|Utica, New York]]. Since New York is too cold (and Yankee) for Bob, he left after three years, returning back to Winston-Salem for a few years before transferring to [[wikipedia:Roanoke, Virginia|Roanoke]] in Southwest Virginia, where he discovered his love for the mountains. In 1975, he moved to [[Richmond]], where he worked until 1980, when he was transferred to [[Charlottesville]].<ref name="About" /> He worked with both Goodrich and Goodyear.<ref name="PSN 37" />

With General Electric, Bob was responsible for at least seven patents. [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] claimed, in an e-mail to [[Shigeru Miyamoto|Miyamoto]], that without Bob's influence in the computer world, the {{w|Nintendo Entertainment System|NES}} "might not have arrived so soon",<ref name="Barbara" /> ignoring the fact that the NES was designed and released in Japan in 1983, without influence from American electronics.

{{quote|Bob Chandler is one of the most creative engineers in the organization.|The General Manager at G.E.<ref>[[:File:Bob 25th Anniversary at General Electric.jpg]]</ref>}}

Examples of Bob's accomplishments include an automated steel mill for rolling steel for cars, a paper mill for the production of Kleenex, warehousing, railroads and tanker ships. He designed scooters, die casting machines, machines for producing plastic products<ref name="About" /> and a vehicle logging system.<ref>https://patents.google.com/patent/US3486009</ref> Both Chris and Barbara have bragged that Bob designed controls<ref>https://patents.google.com/patent/US3889849</ref> that were used in plastic water container molding machines.<ref name="About" /><ref name="Barbara">[[Miyamoto Saga#Barbara]]</ref>

Bob retired in 1987 at the age of 59 or 60.<ref>[[Bob's Letters to Chris#Open Letter - December 26th, 1987]]</ref> His relatively early retirement may have been provoked by health problems, as he writes in his December 1987 [[Bob's Letters to Chris|letter to Chris]] that "I know now that I, at best, haven't much time left to share myself with you".

Bob himself was proud of his "natural inclination for logic", although he was "inundated" by all his designs and whether he did well for the world. Would plastic water bottles lead to mankind's salvation or utter destruction? Only time would tell.<ref name="About" />

===World consciousness===
[[Image:0012-BobbyReading.jpg|thumb|Bob Chandler learning how to cut that Internet down.]]

{{quote|I have been very interested in the world since I was 10 years old, and that was 70 years ago and, the, uh, I'm very fond of and I really truly believe in the United Nations, but you won't find anybody else in my countryside or around here, I think, that does. (laughing) But anyway, I'm very world conscious.|[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7|Bob]]}}

Bob referred to himself as a {{w|Republican Party (United States)|Republican}}, and he did not vote for [[Barack Obama]] in {{w|United States presidential election, 2008|the 2008 presidential election}}.<ref name="Prank calls"/> That said, he had misgivings about {{w|Bob McDonnell}}, the Republican candidate in the {{w|Virginia gubernatorial election, 2009|2009 Virginia gubernatorial election}} and the ultimate winner of the election, possibly because of McDonnell's support for very strict anti-abortion laws, which made no exceptions for cases of rape or [[Chris and sex#incest|incest]]. Bob and Chris considered writing in Snoopy from ''[[Peanuts]]'' as a protest vote.<ref>[[Regina e-mails#Wikipedia: The answer to everything]]</ref>

In a potentially damaging moment on 18 [[February 2009]], Bob doubted the existence of [[Molvanîa]], [[Julie]]'s country of origin.<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.5]]</ref> However, he continued talking on the grounds that his grasp of post-Soviet geography was shaky, and he apparently convinced himself that Molvanîa was the same place as the real country of Moldova, a former Soviet republic located near the Black Sea.<ref name="PSN 37">[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7]]</ref> However, he rather damningly failed to question why Julie spoke perfect English with an American accent.

Besides Korea, Bob also visited Australia and England at some point in his life.<ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#Retired life (0:16:59–0:24:22)]]</ref>

==Relationships==

===Previous family===

Bob was previously married to a woman named Patricia Harley on 25 September 1956 at a United Methodist church in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. They had two children, [[David Alan Chandler]] (b. 1962) and [[Carol Suzanne Chandler]] (b. 1969).

Bob and Patricia separated on 28 June 1976 before divorcing on 28 January 1980.<ref name="BobObit">https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/dailyprogress/name/robert-franklin-chandler-obituary?n=robert-franklin-chandler&pid=153539600</ref><ref>[[:File:1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.png]]</ref> Bob's relationships with David and Carol were strained in his later years.<ref name="Cole2">[[:Image:Cole 07-03-06-2.PNG|6 March 2007 email, page 2]]</ref> Chris did not know he had a niece, via David, named [[Savannah Chandler|Savannah]] until she was 8 years old<ref>[[CWC's Diary#January 2004]]</ref>, and Bob's relationship with Carol was even more strained. According to Chris, Bob was always concerned about Carol. None of the Chandlers knew what was going on with her, and last they heard she was working for the federal government, implying that she did not show up to her father's funeral.<ref>[[:File:Savannah_chandler3.png]]</ref> David, on the other hand, did attend his father's funeral.<ref>[[:File:Savannah_chandler.png]]</ref>

===Barbara===

[[Image:0063-BobAndBarbaraNewLife.jpg|thumb|With [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]]]]

Bob and [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] met in 1979 at "Maddy's Pub" in Richmond<ref>[[April 2012 Facebook posts#Fear of the future]]</ref> (probably Matt's British Pub in Shockoe Slip, where Bob was a sing-along leader in the late 1970s).<ref name=godbear>[[IT TOOK A TALKING BEAR TO GIVE THE NAME A YOUNG BOY LOVES]]</ref> Barbara was there with a friend and Bob was singing.<ref name="Mumble 3.5">[[Mumble 3.5]]</ref> According to Chris, Bob claims that Barbara did the [[How to Talk to Girls|pursuing]]: "She chased him down the hallway." Barb, however, disputes this.<ref>[[The 24th Wedding Anniversary Special#Part 2]]</ref> This is probably why Chris figured that he could get away with being passive in terms of courtship. In contrast, [[Cole Smithey|Cole]]'s friend Chuck McGuigan, who worked at the pub as a bartender, has a vivid memory of them "acting out as a couple of drunken losers".<ref name="Cole2" />

They got married in 1980,<ref name="Mumble 3.5" /> only months after Bob and Patricia had divorced.<ref>[[:File:1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.jpeg]]</ref> Barb later told Chris that she only married Bob because "he owned [[14 Branchland Court|a house]]."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022]]</ref>

According to Chris, Barbara did not have sex with Bob for at least two decades before his passing. They had been sleeping in separate rooms in the years leading up to his death.<ref>[[IRC (27 December 2008)]]</ref>

===Cole===
Bob married Barbara when her son [[Cole Smithey|Cole]] was nearly 17, around the time Cole left to lead his own life.

Cole feels that Bob's bitterness worked to separate his relationship with his mother. Cole said he would celebrate<ref name="Cole2"/> "when that fuck Bob finally drops",<ref>[[:Image:Cole 07-07-24-3.PNG|Email from Cole to Chris]]</ref> but it is unknown if he did so. Cole said that he and Bob shared a mutual hatred,<ref name="Cole2" /> though there isn't any proof that Bob hated Cole. In the least, it is certain that Bob knew Cole didn't like him.<ref name="Raising"/>

===Chris===

{{see also|Bob's Letters to Chris}}

{{quote|Get away from the Internet! I'm cutting it down, right now.|Bob Chandler, Internet lumberjack.}}

[[File:Dreaming studio.png|thumb|Dreaming studio of Mr. C and Little C. Where dreams do come true - 1989.]]

When Chris was a boy, Bob encouraged him to learn more about the world and tried sharing his interests and hobbies, including engineering, geography and [[Stamps|stamp collecting]].

When Chris was seven, Bob converted a shed in the backyard of [[14 Branchland Court]] to a workshop where he and Chris could build things together, dubbing it the "dreaming studio". Chris could not recall what they had built together when asked about it in the years following Bob's death;<ref>[[IRL Tour of 14 Branchland Court]]</ref> he and Barb had been using the space for hoard storage.

Bob wished that Chris was more interested in the world. He tried to teach Chris about foreign geography such as [[Julie|Europe]] and [[PandaHalo|Australia]], but he thought (correctly) that Chris doesn't understand countries and continents beyond what he's seen on [[television]], and only can associate with the places he's physically been to in Virginia.<ref name="PSN 37" />

Bob enjoyed collecting stamps as a boy growing up in the 1930s, and he continued to do so for several decades, with a focus on the United Nations and foreign countries,<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7]]</ref> building a collection of stamp albums which filled six boxes.<ref>[[I'm selling my father's stamp collection; come on down and buy some of it]]</ref> He taught Chris about his hobby, buying him a beginner's stamp album in 1992.<ref>[[eBay#Chris's stamp album]]</ref> Chris seemed to enjoy the hobby as well, since he had many pages of stamps filled in. In [[Bob's Letters to Chris|written letters]] to Chris (written when Chris was a few years old), Bob gave Chris permission to pass along his various collections onto others after inheriting them. In 2017, Chris began selling pieces of the inherited stamp collection. He priced Bob's pieces at decent prices, generally for $5 per set, though tried to sell his own personal stamp album for $1,000.<ref>[[eBay]] - see listings for their stamp collections.</ref>

Bob's racist joke that [[Barack Obama]] would paint the White House black as soon as he became president influenced Chris to draw it in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]].

Chris's phobia of [[Pickle|penises]] was apparently sparked from barging into his parents' room, where Bob had a habit of sleeping nude from the waist down.<ref>[[February 2020 social media posts#On seeing his father's penis]]</ref>

Chris has often complained about stressful confrontations with his father:

{{quote|well, my father is a major stressor against me; starts arguements, annoys me, [[Chris and health#hygiene|rarely washes his hands after restroom breaks]] (lord knows I've tried to encourage him to wash numerous time, and rarely succeeded).|Chris, [[IRC (31 December 2008)]]}}

However, the many instances of Bob communicating with trolls show that he was generally pleasant and amicable, not at all inclined to start arguments, as Chris asserts. As seen during the lead up to the fateful encounter between [[Emily]], Chris and the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]], Bob seemed to be more than happy to discuss stories with people, even those he hadn't seen or heard that much of - [[Robert Simmons V]], who met Bob during his [[Church audio|visit to Chris's church]] conversed with him extensively, later saying that he was a 'really pleasant guy'. The antagonism to which Chris refers is likelier to be Bob attempting to constructively criticize Chris in order to better him, as Chris deeply resents being told what he does not want to hear.
[[File:Bob drawing Nov. '15.jpg|thumb|200px|left|A drawing of Bob by Chris, released in [[November 2015]].]]

An example of this criticism was Bob telling Chris that, since Bob had looked after Chris for 29 years despite his childish and outrageous behavior, Chris should show more gratitude towards him. Chris was completely dismissive, figuring that his father was ''obligated'' to take care of him, and seeing no reason he should demonstrate any foreign concepts like "love", "support", "gratitude", and "willingness to help". Reinforcing Bob's point, Chris still ran for his father's aid when he felt threatened, as in the later parts of the [[Kacey and Liquid Call]].

Despite Bob's occasional frustration over Chris's actions, he seemed to have bought into the theory that Chris is tormented by a [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|complex network of enemies spanning the entire world]], due to the success that he has earned from his own Sonichu franchise.<ref name="Church">[[Church audio]]</ref><ref name="Noble">[[Matthew Noble call]]</ref> In the [[Matthew Noble call]], it appears that Bob seemed to be the origin of Chris's tendency to bring up unrelated mishaps and debacles to make current incidents and sources of [[stress]] seem "petty" in comparison.

[[Image:0106-ChristianWDad.jpg|thumb|Bob and a younger Christian. Note Chris's "Family Bonding" shirt.]]
Once during a phone call with a troll, Bob stated that Chris was [[Chris and anger|"a hell of a lot nicer"]] and "has done a lot better than" the troll calling him.<ref name="Prank">[[Prank_calls#Snake_Productions_Calls_Bob_Chandler]]</ref>

He seemed never to get past the notion that Chris could and had achieved things, given that he continued to have to nursemaid Chris well into his son's late 20s. In the later parts of 2009 and throughout 2010, as chronicled in Chris's e-mails with [[Vivian Gee E-mails, 2009|Vivian Gee]] and [[Jackie E-mails 7|Jackie]], Bob had been forced to take an increasingly active role in controlling Chris's spending and debt, paying off Chris's credit cards with his own money in an attempt to prevent interest charges from spiraling even further out of control. By the fall of 2010, he was monitoring Chris's bank accounts on a daily basis and keeping him on a strict allowance. Upon finding out about Chris's [[Tomgirl Pictures|escapades]] in early 2011, Bob's reaction was to question Chris's sexuality, at one point even calling him a fag.

Chris has said specifically that he doesn't have to love his father, but has to respect him.<ref>[[Mumble 1#Transcript|Mumble Chat 1]]</ref> Confidential details collected after Bob's death, however, suggests Chris was more emotionally attached than he let on, providing rare and precious evidence that Chris doesn't take the presence of others for granted. He also got genuinely emotional while reading a letter that his father had left for him on-camera, again indicating how much he misses his father.<ref>[[CLog 09042017 - Mister C]]</ref>

In [[December 2012]], Chris uploaded the soundtrack from the [[WTJU Marathon|1990 WTJU Jazz Marathon]], in which Bob was a performer and a host. It was notable as one of the few moments where Chris publicly honored his father's memory since the latter's passing in [[September 2011]].

Bob lives on his son's memory. Chris noted the occasion of his father's passing by attaching angel wings to the [[Lego]] minifigure representing him,<ref>Seen at 4:24 in [[CWC Lego Manchester High School Oct 18 2013]]</ref> and displaying two photos of him in front of his TV.<ref>[[:File:Totem2ebay.jpeg]]</ref> He often visits Bob in his [[dreams]].<ref>[[March 2012 Facebook Posts#Still Feeling Lonely II|March 2012 Facebook Posts]]</ref><ref>[[List of OkCupid Answers#2014 Answers--LevelUpKing|OkCupid Answers]]</ref>

Due to the influence of the [[Idea Guys]], Chris expressed beliefs that Bob is half-Sonichu and is apparently still alive in the [[CWCville]] dimension. These beliefs began around December 2017 and continued even after the Idea Guys had been removed from power, as shown by the below quote from 2018's Father's Day.

{{quotebox|[[File:Father's Day 2018.jpg|200px|thumb]]

<nowiki>#HappyFathersDay</nowiki> to each and every Father in This World and in Every Single Other Dimension Too! My father is alive again! I still love him, even in his checker-patterned glory! ⚡️💙❤️⚡️<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20191211070743/https://twitter.com/cwcsonichu/status/1008449921387778048</ref>}}

===Other relationships===
In spite of his redneck background, Bob seems to have gotten along better with foreigners than with his own countrymen. His closest friend in Richmond was Reverend Chen of Korean Canaan Presbyterian Church,<ref>Emily Date Conversation Transcript</ref> and he had English friends through his involvement with Matt's British Pub.<ref name=godbear></ref> He also had friends in Australia.<ref>BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7</ref>

From his father's second marriage, Bob had "a large number of half-brothers and sisters in... [[wikipedia:Winston-Salem, North Carolina|Salem, North Carolina]]",<ref>[[Bob's Letters to Chris]]</ref> but he does not seem to have been very close with them. Bob's stepmother's obituary confirms that eight of these half-siblings were alive as of 2015.<ref>https://www.hufffuneralhome.com/obituary/Dorothy-Chandler</ref>

[[Prank calls#Call Bobby Chandler|Contrary to popular beliefs]], he did not have friends in the Ku Klux Klan.

==Later life, poor health and death==
[[File:Bob playbill for musical push cart.jpg|thumb|200px|Playbill for Mr. C. and his musical pushcart.]]

Bob lived on social security and his General Electric pension.<ref name="Raising">[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#Raising Chris-Chan (16:46 - 00:00)]]</ref> He never really had people to chat with at home (he would ramble to [[Trolls|total strangers]] on the phone if he could), so he sat around, listened to music, and took care of the garden inside the greenhouse.<ref name="PSN 37" /> With a 1970s stereo system set up in the greenhouse, he went to "swing with the music" on his swing there.<ref name="Raising" />

Bob had two triple bypasses and four heart attacks. The two triple-bypass operations took place first in August 1980 and at last in 1992. He had {{w|Coronary artery disease}} and wore an {{w|Artificial cardiac pacemaker|artificial pacemaker}}.<ref>[[Autism papers#FAMILY_HISTORY:]]</ref><ref>[[Mumble 3]]</ref> He apparently had several vivid near-death experiences: during [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#Bob's health problems (0:24:23–0:25:29)|Chris's date with]] [[Emily]], Bob tells her that he has "died" several times, and Chris says that Bob "has seen the light, but did not actually go to it." In one prank call, Bob revealed that after surgery for cancer it was discovered that he had a fluid build-up in his legs, which is symptomatic of CHF. This rapid decline in health worried him.<ref name="Prank calls"/> He attributed his long life to the [[Cherokee]] in him. His uncles and grandfather all lived past 90.<ref name="PSN 37" /> Despite his heart troubles he continued to eat at [[Burger King]] daily.<ref>[[Prank calls#Calls to Bob and Chris]]</ref><ref>[[Trollin Train#Hey, guys (Sun 22 Aug 2010)]]</ref>

On 1 [[March 2010]], Chris [[Twitter|tweeted]] that Bob had been taken to the hospital in the early morning for "congested [''sic''] {{w|heart failure}}". Chris seemed confident that his father was not in for a long stay. Considering Bob's age, lifestyle, and long history of heart disease, [[Chris and death|Chris did not seem to grasp the seriousness of his heart failure]]. Bob had been the only thing keeping [[14 Branchland Court|the Chandler household]] from imploding, and as such, trolls and white knights alike wished him the very best.

[[Image:Bobbed.jpg|thumb|Apart from the dying heart]]

In the month following Bob's hospitalization, Chris was remarkably quiet on the subject of his father. News about his condition was hard to come by, as information only arose [[Chris and his Ego|when Chris was inclined to complain about it online]]. Statistically, congestive heart failure is not as immediately fatal as its name implies,<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201210121845/https://www.healthline.com/health/chf-life-expectancy]</ref> but Bob's age, prior heart attacks and [[Tour of Chris's House|lifestyle]] made this a very serious situation.

Chris's videos over the month of March made no mention of Bob at all. Staying true to his painfully predictable nature, Chris instead lost a [[The Wallflower|girlfriend he never had]], [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|made racial slurs and death threats towards a cartoon character]], and [[F Abstinance|raged against abstinence]]. His silence on the subject of his father was probably because of [[Naïve|genuine ignorance]] of the seriousness of his father's condition.

A poster on [[/cwc/]] contacted Chris via PSN regarding Bob. He posted a screen capture of Chris's response, saying, "He is doing much better, thank you."<ref>[[:File:Bobbetter.jpg]]</ref> Another contacted Chris via email and got a response saying, "Yes, my father is healthy and safe." Clearly he was neither, but this was at least proof that Bob hadn't joined the Whites-Only section of Heaven just yet. In late May, Chris finally made [[Some Favored Comedians|a brief mention]] in a public video that his father was "alive and well". Chris was, at least, half right.

A breakdown of Bob's final months reads as follows.

On 24 March 2011, Bob claimed in a phone call to have cancer of some description.<ref>http://youtu.be/y-GGSOyCm2k</ref>

On 23 April 2011, in an e-mail to Jackie, Chris revealed that Bob had received surgery for colon cancer.<ref>[[Jackie_E-mails_24]]</ref>

On 20 July 2011, it was revealed that [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia#Re: Coming out to my parents|Bob knew about Chris's cross-dressing tendencies]] and, like Barb, vehemently disapproved of them.

On 29 August 2011, Chris, now deeply entrenched in his [[Tomgirl Saga|tomgirlish ways]], [[Response to ADF|mentioned that Bob was an ill and sickly shut-in]], and was suffering from [[Chris and English|"feet-bloatings"]].

In early September 2011, Bob was rushed by ambulance to Martha Jefferson hospital with heart failure. [[Rocky Shoemaker call|It was discovered later]] that Bob had been put into quarantine when he arrived because his body was [[14 Branchland Court|covered in bug bites]] and he posed a contamination risk. On the sixth of that month, he died at age 84.<ref name="BobObit"></ref> Out of respect for him and his family, the CWCki was closed for a week, 12–19 September, with the start date coinciding with the day Bob's funeral service was held. Site visitors were directed to a page which simply read "Robert Franklin Chandler Jr. 1927–2011".<ref name="BobObit" />

It is said that [[Man in the Pickle Suit|Marvin]] and other trolls, using the [[Jackie]] identity as a catfish, attempted to contact Chris over the phone shortly after Bob's death for unclear reasons; Chris was noted to be audibly upset as he cried throughout the conversation. While the audio was recorded and archived on what is referred to as the "Black Tape" by some Christorians, the contents of the call were never released publicly due to Chris's miserable emotional state. The trolls who participated in the call realized after the fact that it was simply too soon to try to reach out to Chris in this fashion and, for a change, opted to respect his privacy for once. The Black Tape either still exists in the hands of the trolls who participated in its creation, or it has been lost to time.<ref>[[CWCki Forums posts (Marvin)#The Black Tape]]</ref>

Bob's death also marked another significant change in Chris's life, as the vast majority of the trolls associated with the [[Christorical eras|"Classic Era"]] voluntarily retired from trolling Chris, knowing that he was deeply depressed by his father's demise. Only a few of these trolls still remain active as observers on [[Kiwi Farms]], and a trolling renaissance did not begin until much later in the decade with the advent of the [[Idea Guys]].

==Cause of death==
Despite the fairly clear-cut nature of the lumberjack's passing, Chris has since declared that the [[trolls]] were responsible for Bob's death. In an [[Misc_E-mails|email]] leaked on 22 [[March 2014]], Chris claims that the stress of his trolling led to Bob's heart attack. This keeps in the trend Chris has developed of blaming any and all misfortunes (even those faced by everyone, like burying a family member) on trolls.

{{quote|AND the total [[stress]] KILLED my Father Prematurely; if not for those Trolls, he would still be alive, and would have likely lived beyond 2015.|Chris.}}

Even for Chris this is appalling behavior; using the '''death of his own father''' as a vehicle to play the victim and attempt to stave off trolls. While it's not uncommon for those who have lost loved ones to blame their deaths on external causes (however impossible or insane, as in this case) Chris's actions are motivated purely out of selfishness and egotism – business as usual.

Years later, in 2017, Chris revised his claim and said that Bob was killed after hospital staff surprised him with a "Loud Noise". He went on to say that he had more freedom when Bob was alive.

{{quote|I wish I could go back to September 5, 2011 and stop the staff from making the Loud Noise that killed my father with stressful surprise. I had more freedom when he was alive.|Chris<ref name=LoudNoise></ref>}}

==Obituary==
Both [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] and Chris collaborated in writing Bob's obituary, which was published in two local papers. Main points of the obituary, apart from the standard birth date, date of death, and next of kin, include:

* Text going into [[autism|unusual detail]] about what Bob did at General Electric.
* The location of the memorial service, "to follow on a later date", at [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church]], the church that Barb, Bob and Chris used to frequent together. This is the same church that [[Rocky Shoemaker]] counseled Chris from.
* A footnote asking readers to not donate flowers, but to [[Chris and money|donate money to Barbara and Chris]].

With Chris taking part in writing the obituary, it's amazing that the writing stayed focus on Bob and did not once mention Sonichu or become about Chris (except for the request for money at the end).

===Original text===
[[Image:Rip internet lumberack by vekke.png|thumb|May you always watch over our sweet autist.]]
:''Robert Franklin Chandler Jr., 84, of Ruckersville, passed away the morning of Tuesday, September 6, 2011, at Martha Jefferson Hospital ICU surrounded by family, pastor and hospital staff.''

:''He was born on September 4, 1927, in Texas, the son of the late Robert Franklin Chandler Sr. and Jean Holloman Chandler. On June 7, 1980, he married Barbara Anne Weston, who survives. And the couple gave birth to a son, Christian Weston Chandler, who survives. Also surviving is ex-wife, Patricia, and their shared children, son, Dr. David Alan Chandler, survives, and daughter, Carol Suzanne Chandler, survives.''

:''He graduated from Auburn University with a degree in Engineering.''

:''He served in the United States Army Seoul Korea in the Signal Corp during the Korean War. He worked for General Electric as an Engineer with Steels, Plastics, etc. He also had patents for the controls for Plastic Molding Machines; without him, we would not have even a simple plastic funnel.''

:''Also surviving are granddaughter, Savannah Chandler, the daughter of David Alan Chandler and his wife, Kimberly.''

:''A funeral service will be held at Monticello Memory Gardens in Charlottesville, Virginia, 10 a.m. Monday, September 12, 2011. A memorial service to follow on a later date at Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church.''

:''Instead of flowers, you may make monetary donations to his widow, Barbara Chandler and son, Christian Chandler.<ref name="BobObit" />

==In memoriam==
[[File:Chandler_Niche.jpg|thumb|left|Bob's final resting place.]]

Bob is often seen as a gregarious, hard-working man ([[Ruckersville, VA|all things considered]]) who tried ([[Destruction Of Chris's House|albeit without]] [[26 December 2014|success]]) his best to refine Chris into someone that could at least pass for a responsible adult, giving him mock job interviews and [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript|chaperoning him on dates]], where he proved (unsurprisingly) more adept at charming the date than Chris.

On the other hand, we have him to thank for some of his son's more [[Homos|backward]] [[Niggos|worldviews]]. He managed to alienate his other children enough that [[Carol Chandler|his daughter]] didn't attend his funeral or keep in touch while he was alive. He helped Chris to construct [[Matthew Noble call|bizarre]] [[Greene County Conspiracy|conspiracy theories]] to justify [[Chris and the law|trespassing and the like]], among [[Chris and his ego|other things]]. He, like Barbara, enabled Chris's crippling dependence on them, general immaturity and irresponsibility, and his myriad of other flaws. He bailed out his son repeatedly and never really let Chris experience the [[Financhu Crisis|consequences]] of his misinformed [[Chris and money|life decisions]]. He never made any serious effort to correct his son's glaring character flaws and shortcomings, even when he caught him [[Bob Walks In|masturbating]] in the kitchen. He also did not make any real attempt to provide for Chris' future, beyond ensuring the tugboat. He left all his money to Barbara, who promptly wasted it all on [[Rob Bell|lawyer's fees]] – a conscientious parent would have anticipated this and put some of the money in a trust for Chris.

Ultimately, Bob's legacy is a complicated one. While some like to remember Bob as a kind-hearted man who tried his best to be a good father, others see him as an old backward-thinking coot who is partially responsible for the person Chris is today.

{{clear}}

==Chris's beliefs on Bob's afterlife==
===Idea Guy influences===
{{quote|Robert Franklin Chandler Jr's and Ted Bundy's souls never went to Heaven or Hell; They both became reborn ''[...]'' as their respective Sonichu forms. ''[...]'' Mister C. and Ted also serve to help the nation of CWCville in defense, and in intellect.|[[Sonichu 16|''Sonichu'' #16]], page 49}}

[[File:Bobchu.jpeg|thumb|150px|Bob's Sonichu form.]]
[[File:Bob meets Ted Bundy, Sonichu 16.JPG|Bob meets Ted Bundy in the hereafter.|thumb|150px]]

During the [[Idea Guys]] saga, Chris's belief in multiple dimensions was exploited and his sense of reality hijacked to make changes to many of Chris's characters, concepts and perspectives of the real world, with him considering them to be valid. Perhaps one of the more heinous examples of this was the Idea Guys' manipulation of Chris's views on his own father; views which Chris has yet to abandon, despite the Idea Guys being removed from power by the [[Guard Dogs]] in mid-2018. Ideas involving Bob include:

*Bob's spirit resides in CWCville, dimension [[C-197]], as a half-Sonichu named Robertchu, styled in his Sonichu form as a beaver with checkerboard fur<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20201210122024/https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1008449921387778048</ref><ref>The drawing of Robertchu was among those drawn for Idea Guy, and no references to it exist beforehand.</ref> (a reference to his troll-given Internet Lumberjack nickname).

*Bob met serial killer Ted Bundy while in CWCville and helps defend it alongside Ted.<ref>[[Sonichu 13|''Sonichu'' #13]]</ref>

[[File:RobertchuBackHome.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Robertchu as a [[Shipfic]] card.]]

Post-Idea Guys, Chris decided that Robertchu's fur color was really red with black ears because he found it too time-consuming to draw the checkerboard pattern.<ref>[[June 2019 social media posts#Father's Day memorial]]</ref>

Robertchu was featured as cards in Chris's homemade [[Shipfic]] expansion. In one, Chris photoshopped a photo of [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] so that she is standing beside a drawing of Robertchu in his Sonichu form. The card text reads, "Honey, I'm Home" and states:

{{quotebox|Every once in a while, Mister C runs back home to offer comfort to Barbara. Before the Dimension Merge's completion, she has missed him everyday, and found the solace and comfort when he comes by. He continues to carry a torch for her in his heart and soul while he helps to protect everyone in Cwcville and at this old temple of a house.}}

{{clear}}

==Appearances==

===In ''Sonichu''===
{{quote|Christian, you are not a girl! Go put your pants back on.|Bob, ''Sonichu'' #12}}

[[File:Chandlers & Sonichus.jpg|200px|thumb]]

In [[Sonichu 8#Spring Break, 2008!|"Spring Break, 2008"]], a radio announcement from [[Jamsta Sonichu]] mentions that Bob founded [[CWCville]] in 1982, presumably after Chris's birth on [[Chris's birthday|24 February]] given that Bob named the city after his newborn son. Comic Bob presumably served as mayor before Chris took the office at an unknown date. At other points, Bob was mentioned in Chris's tangents about hating men other than himself and his father.

{{Mayors of CWCville}}

In [[Sonichu_9#Episode_19|"Date Ed"]], there are two dolls for the class to practice talking to, girls received "Robert" dolls, while boys received "Barbara" dolls, an obvious reference/homage to Bob and Barb.

Bob made his first official appearance in [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]], photoshopped into a "family photo" alongside Chris, Barb and various [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]].

[[File:Borb, Sonichu12.jpg|200px|thumb|left]]

[[File:Bob,Sonichu12.jpg|200px|thumb|right]]

In [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]], Bob appears in a set of pages that combine an autobiographical account of Chris coming out as a [[tomgirl]] to his parents, and a tribute to his late father. He is depicted as an elderly man, as the page took place in 2010 (due to Chris's Oedipal complex, Barb is depicted as much more youthful). He attempts to dissuade Chris from continuing his tomgirl lifestyle, although Chris states that Bob later "told me he accepts and love [sic] me for who I am" shortly before his passing in 2011.

Chris concludes Bob's appearance in the book with a photo in memoriam of his life, saying that he and Barb continue to miss him every day.

[[File:Chandler family as ponies.png|200px|thumb|left|Bob, pictured at right, as ''Gallop Crush'', in a [[MLP]]-inspired drawing from [[August 2017]].]]

In August 2017, Chris unveiled a drawing of the Chandler family depicted as [[My Little Pony]] characters, saying that they will make further appearances in [[Sonichu 12-9|''Sonichu'' #12-9]]. The ponified Bob, known as "Gallop Crush", appears as [[Night Star]]'s father, reaffirming the self-insert nature of Chris's ponysona.

In the [[Idea Guys]]-written [[Sonichu 16|''Sonichu'' #16]], Bob's spirit crosses over into CWCville where he meets and strikes up a conversation with serial killer Ted Bundy.

===As a toy===

<center><gallery>
File:BobAmiibo.jpg|[[Amiibo]] Bob, which Chris offered for sale on [[Etsy]] in [[November 2015]]. Oh yes.
File:ChrisFamilyEtsyC.jpg|Promo drawing
</gallery></center>

===Audio and video===

In every appearance, Bob has proven himself to be better at charming Chris's [[sweetheart]]s than Chris himself (not a difficult feat, to be fair).

* [[1990]]: Bob appeared as the DJ to the [[WTJU Marathon]].
* 26 February [[1994]]: Bob appears briefly behind Chris from 0:26-0:36 in the news report of the [[Chris in the media|Sonic Watch & Win Sweepstakes]].
* 14 [[February 2009]]: [[Bob Walks In]] to Chris [[mass debating]].
* 18 [[February 2009]]: In [[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.5]] and [[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7|3.7]], Bob rambles to [[Julie]].
* 15 [[March 2009]]: Bob [[Church audio|talked]] to [[Robert Simmons V]] at [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|church]] while [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|Chris went to shit himself]].
* [[March 2009]]: Bob chaperoned Chris on his date with [[Emily]].
* 27 [[March 2009]]: Bob gets intruded by Chris in the [[Tour of Christian's House]], but is not visible.
* 27 [[August 2009]]: [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|Bob enters Chris's room]] and scolds him for making the house tour, (correctly) fearing that if someone saw the house as it was, they would be evicted (Uncut version only). This is a momentous occasion, showing some awareness on the part of the Chandlers that the filth and squalor they live in is a health hazard. This video subsequently off a wave of emails and calls to the Greene County Health Department, masterminded by trolls who hoped to realize Bob's fear of eviction, but the campaign was seemingly unsuccessful.
* [[November 2009]]: Bob and [[Barb|Snorlax]] make a brief appearance at the end of the [[Kacey and Liquid Call]].
* 15 [[August 2010]]: In his final outing on the damn Internet, Bob gets a [[Matthew Noble call|call from the GAMe PLACe]] and is informed of Chris's actions earlier in the year. He then goes on a tangent about how Chris has been tormented by everyone ever since he was banned, and then demands Michael Snyder's information. Barbara also is audible at the end of the call.
* [[Prank calls]]: Bob answered several of these. He was usually sincere when talking with prank callers, providing them with true and honest information about himself and Chris, but was occasionally pushed to trolling them back, on one occasion telling a particularly obnoxious pair of trolls that he had ties to the Ku Klux Klan.

==Gallery==
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File:Bob1946Auburn.jpg|Bob's Auburn freshman yearbook photo, taken for the 1946 yearbook.
File:BobJax1950.PNG|Bob's 1950 Jacksonville State Teachers College sophomore yearbook photo.
File:Bobauburn1951.PNG|Bob's 1951 Auburn junior yearbook photo.
File:Bobauburn1952.PNG|Bob's Auburn senior yearbook photo.
File:WW2BobChandler(badquality).jpg|Bob's 1946 U.S. Army draftee.
File:BobPatMarriage.png|Bob and Patricia's newspaper engagement.
File:1956 9 25 - Bob, Patricia marriage license.png|1956 9 25 - Bob, Patricia marriage license.
File:1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.png|1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.
File:1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.jpeg|1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.
File:Bob and his parents - 1930s census.png|Bob and his parents - 1930s census.
File:Bob and his parents - 1940s census.png|Bob and his parents - 1940s census.
File:Bob1950Census.jpg|Bob in the Jacksonville State Teachers University's dormitory room - 1950s census.
File:Bob's birth certificate.png|Bob's birth certificate.
File:Chris's family tree up to his great great grandparents.png|Chris's family tree up to his great-great-grandparents.
Image:Thehell.jpg|
Image:0009-ChristopherChristmas2.jpg|Christmas at the Chandlers, taken sometime during the 1980s.
Image:0011-ChristopherBobXmas.jpg|That isn't Chris's half-senile old grandfather at [[Christmas]] time. It's Bob. He was that age when Chris was about one.
Image:0014-YoungerFather.jpg
Image:0032-BobAtRestraunt.jpg|
File:1993family.png|Barb, Chris and Bob in [[1993]]
Image:0038-AuntCorinaAndDad.jpg|Bob with [[Aunt Corrina]].
Image:0062-NewChristian&Dad.jpg|
Image:0120-BobbyBehindBars.jpg|
Image:0230-ChristianAndDadInClass.jpg|
File:Bob1997article1.png|Bob's short brief article from Richmond Times-Dispatch in July 1997.
File:Bob1997article2.png|Bob's short brief article from Richmond Times-Dispatch in August 1997.
Image:0626-BobbyInGarden.jpg|Bob used to enjoy gardening back in the day.
Image:CreepyBobAndChris.JPG|
Image:Bob_80th.jpg
File:Robert Chandler, 19 June 2016 Facebook post photo.jpg|Last known photo.
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==Fan tributes==
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| video = {{#ev:youtube|tyoboaDCJ0s}}
| Stardate = 29 September 2011
| Maker = furnacewoodsband
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==References==
{{Fan Art|chris=Bob Chandler}}
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==External links==
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20201210122203/https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/141038783/robert-franklin-chandler Bob Chandler at Find a Grave]

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Bob Walks In

2023-07-30T18:03:17Z

Lilacraven: /* Background */

{{Honest}}
{{quote|<poem>The [[Sweetheart|couples of the world]] kiss,
But unfortunately for [[Chris|few]],
They are interrupted by [[Borb|their parents]].</poem>|Chris, in a love poem he wrote in High School exactly nine years before. GodBear could not have planned it better.<ref>[[Valentines Day Hymn]]</ref>}}

'''Bob Walks In''' is the most famous of the [[Julie]] cybersex chats, in which Chris is caught [[mass debating]] by his late father, [[Bob]].

==Background==
[[Image:Aiko-Chris's New Bird.jpg|thumb|right|140px|What Chris imagines Julie looks like...]]
At the time of this particular chat, the Chandler family [[14 Branchland Court|home]] only had one [[computers|computer]], and it was in the [[Chris's kitchen|kitchen]]. This means that every time Chris wanted to engage in cybersex, he would be doing it in the middle of a place where people prepare food, and probably wouldn't want [[navy]] dripping all over it.

On [[February 2009|Valentine's Night, 2009]], Chris was on an e-date with his then-sweetheart Julie, and once again engaged in some hot furry sex, similar to the [[CWC Cums for a Cat|night before]]. Chris was moaning sexy, sweaty nothings into the microphone as he furiously pounded his [[Chris and health|bent]] [[duck]]. Unbeknownst to Chris, trolls were tipped off that he was mass debating and were dedicated to having Chris experience an awkward moment that would require Bob to see his son stroking his pickle, yelling like a horny [[Slow-in-the-minds|slow-in-the-mind]]. Four calls were made, the first three failing as Bob told them that Chris was "sleeping" (even though Chris was screaming "JULAAAAY" at the time). [[Miscreants]] agent [[Trolls#Bryan_Bash|Bryan Bash]] provided the final call, stating "OH MY GOD, CHRIS MADE A VIDEO ON YOUTUBE AND SAID HE'S GOING TO KILL HIMSELF! YOU GOTTA STOP HIM!".

Within seconds, Bob dropped the phone, ran up the stairs, and walked into his son's most intimate moment, being justifiably horrified. In a rare moment of parental authority, he threatened to punish Chris by "cuttin' [[Chris and the Internet|the Internet]] down right now." Chris, used to having things his way throughout his whole life, was appalled, confused, and no longer aroused. The recording ends after Bob's many futile attempts to shut down the computer finally succeed.

This can be considered the pinnacle of the ongoing CWC saga, as it represents a moment where Chris actually feels negative repercussions for his Internet behavior. It contains many memorable lines and is the height of emotional drama.

Julie's side of this erotic scene can be read [[BlueSpike Skype Logs 8|here]].

== Prelude ==
The following is Chris's phone sex session with Julie prior to Bob walking in. Throughout this whole audio, Chris bangs into stuff and whacks his keyboard while mass debating and making slurping sounds, suggesting Chris fails at performing even imaginary cunnilingus. If you value your sanity, it is advised that you do not read this transcript because Chris's session is supposedly sexy, but in all fairness, just isn't.

=== Chris Gets Started ===
Hey, Julie! [[Molvanîa|Zlkavszka]]. Ah yeah, good, you're on me. Alright, alright... you do that, mmmm. [''Two Windows beeps and several licking sounds''] Oh... [''rustling, possibly taking off clothes; five rapid Windows beeps''] Ooooh...! Oh-ho-ho! Alright, yeah, I'm [''indistinct''] clothes.

Ok. Yep, I'm lying on the bed... do what you will...mmkay. Ahhhhh...I could take a good guess... very horny. Believe me, I've been very horny... before. Ohhh! Hhhh...oh my...oh my...mmmm...actually, I'm breathing okay...mmm...oh yeah. Cause is--cause it got stiff...for you. Mmmmm...ahhh, ahhh yeah. Mmm...''(spits on his hands)''...mmm.

Okay, I'm licking your pussy while you're sitting on my face. Oh boy...hhhh...mmmmm...mmmm...oh...okay, but you know, just so you know, I learned that farts- farts on one's face causes [[heterochromia|pink-eye]]. Ali- alri- alright, I'll let it go this time. I don't touch my eyes all that much anyway, but this time yeah....

''(Begins fapping)'' Oh yeah. ''(slurp slurp slurp smack smack slurp slurp)'' Oh yeah... mmmm.... Oh yeah. ''(smack smack smack)'' mmmm... mmm... ''(slurp slurp slurp)'' Oh... mmm... You're facing mine as well. Oh boy, yeahhhh... that's good. Mmm. Mmmm... ''(smack smack smack smack slurp slurp)'' Oh... ''(fapping gets louder)'' Mmm!

=== Adventures in China ===
''(Sporadic Windows beeping throughout)'' Mmm... Oh yeah... Mmm... ''(smack smack smack)'' Mmm... mmmmmmmm... Meeee-yeowww. mmm... ahhh, that's fine. ''(smack smack smack)'' Mmmm... ''(faps even harder, colliding into objects) Mmm...'' I was kind of expecting this myself. ''(faps even harder'') Yeah... So do I... mmmm... ''(fapping is quite loud at this point)'' Ahhhh! MMm... ''(phone rings)'' Mmm... Mmmm... I love you too, Julie... you are, you are...

It's very good. Mmm... Ohhhh yeah, it's awesome... Awesome. Ah... ah yeah... ''(fapping speeds up)'' Mmm... Go ahead, be rougher, rougher... Mmmm... Ahhh... MMm... Oh yeah... mmm... Oh yeah, yeah... Oh YEAH, Julie, Julieeeeeeee, Julie!!! mmmh... ahhh... JULAYYYYYYYY! JULayyyyyyyy, JULAaaaay... JULAY!!!! Julay... JULaaAaaAaaaAaaaAaAAAAAYY!!! ''(phone rings)'' Jullayyyy... ''(phone rings again)'' Mmm... ah, don't worry about that, my father will get it... he got it.... Continue. Mm... Julie... JULAAAAAY... Julaaaaaaaaah.

Oh yeah... oh yeah... oh yeah... mmm... oh... mmm?? ''(phone rings)'' mmm... get on me... I want... to be INSIDE YOU!... Oh yeah... not yet... mmm. ''(smack smack smack slurp slurp)'' Pump it in? mmmf... ah... oh yeah... no problem... ahhhh... mmmm YEAH!! mmmf... ''(faps very hard)'' ahh... mmmm... oh yeah... oooooh yeah... ah! yeah... yeaahhh!!! mmmf... (breathing heavily, bangs into something while fapping) mmm... ''(phone rings)'' mmm... no it's okay, my father will get it, don't worry about it... keep going... it's already been got... please, I'm getting close myself... C'mon Julie... mmf... ahhh... mmm... mmm... oh yeah...

''(Bob walks in at this point, about 17 minutes and 56 seconds in. Chris stops masturbating.)''

==The Climax==
{{quote|Get away from the Internet, I'm cuttin' it down right now!|Bob "The Internet Lumberjack" Chandler}}
{{quote|NO DAD, NO!|Chris, during [[Hanky-panky|Goofy Time]].}}

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[[Image:BobWalksInComic.png|thumb|right|140px|Artists depiction of the event.]]

=== Transcript ===
'''Bob''': Christian, what are you doing?
 '''Chris''': [''immediately stops fapping, but knocks several things over''] Nothing.
 '''Bob''': I’m getting all these crazy damn calls. What're you doing?
 '''Chris''': Nothing.
 '''Bob''': Don't give me that crap. Now, what’s going on?
 '''Chris''': Dad, will you get out of here!?
 '''Bob''': No. [''string of Windows beeps''] I will not. [[Bryan Bash|People]] tell me that you’re about to kill yourself on [[YouTube]].
 '''Chris''': What?!
 '''Bob''': What are you doing?
 '''Chris''': I'm not doin' anything.
 '''Bob''': Want me to wake your mother up and find out?
 '''Chris''': No...
 '''Bob''': Then, get out of here, and off that Internet.
 '''Chris''': Fine.
 '''Bob''': What is your trouble?
 '''Chris''': I am NOT going to kill myself!
 '''Bob''': Get away from that TV.
 '''Chris''': Fine.
 '''Bob''': Get away from the Internet, I'm cuttin' it down, right now!
 '''Chris''': NO! DAD, NO!
 '''Bob''': Yes.
 '''Chris''': No!
 '''Bob''': What are you doin'?
 
 [''long pause, what sounds like the kitchen sink running, keys clicking on the keyboard, then a single Windows beep'']
 
 '''Chris''': Don't do it, Dad.
 '''Bob''': I’m gonna shut this thing right down.
 '''Chris''': No.
 '''Bob''': Yes.
 '''Chris''': No! [''pause''] Dad, no. Stop!
 '''Bob''': Go wake your mother up, don’t bother me. Okay? [''pause''] Go and wake your mother up! Don’t bother me!
 '''Chris''': Ugh.
 '''Bob''': Go and wake your mother up!
 '''Chris''': [''[[stress sigh]]'']
 '''Bob''': You tell mm--her what’s going on. This thing is gonna go down.
 '''Chris''': No!
 '''Bob''': Yes!

==External links==
*[https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B6mRSOBYFcaBcjVEeWlabjZnX00 Download (audio only)] [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xs1UTcjO88dsq5TPIhcG4l0NGSOjnvot/view?usp=sharing Archive]

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Bob Chandler

2023-07-30T03:54:10Z

Lilacraven:

{{Needs Updating|[[The Place chats - ProjectSNT#Browsing Kiwi Farms]]}}
{{quote|It was an interesting life I had.|Bob, at peace.}}

{{quote|I had more freedom when he was alive.|Chris, reflecting on his life prior to his father's death.<ref name=LoudNoise>[[February 2017 Facebook Posts#Claiming hospital staff killed Bob]]</ref>}}

{{quote|I don't believe he ever, Mr. C, any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks.|Chris, honoring Bob's memory by claiming that [[Affair with Mother|he was better at fucking]] [[Barbara Chandler|the man's wife]] [[Chris and his ego|than he ever was]].<ref>[[Incest Call]]</ref>}}

{{Infobox Person
| name = Robert Franklin Chandler Jr.
| image = Chrischansdad.jpg
|imagesize = 250
|name = Robert Franklin Chandler Jr.
|aliases = Bob Bobby Mr. C [[Bob Walks In|Internet Lumberjack]] [[:File:Chandler family as ponies.png|Gallop Crush]] Robertchu<ref>[[List of beliefs brainwashed into Chris#Sonichu genealogy for Chris, Bob and Ted Bundy]]</ref>
|label3 = Date of Birth
|day = 4
|month = 9
|year = 1927
|deathday = 6
|deathmonth = 9
|deathyear = 2011
|gender = Male
|nationality = [[United States|American]]
|race = White [[Count Dankula|Half-Sonichu]]<ref>Planted by [[Idea Guys#Lingering influence|Idea Guy]], mentioned in [[Count Dankula]] interview</ref>
|religion = Protestant (Methodist)
|spouse = Patricia Faye Harley (1956–1980) [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara Ann Weston]] (1980–2011)
|children = Dr. David Alan Chandler Carol Suzanne Chandler [[Christian Weston Chandler]] [[Cole Smithey]] (stepson)
|grandchildren = [[Savannah Chandler]]
|father = Robert Franklin Chandler Sr. (1906–1977)
|mother = Jean Holloman (1906–1945)
|education = [[wikipedia:Auburn_University|Auburn University]] ([[wikipedia:Bachelor of Electrical Engineering|BEE]]) [[wikipedia:Jacksonville_State_University|Jacksonville State University]] (did not graduate)
|occupation = Military communications Engineer Inventor
|saga = {{saga|childhood|cn}}, {{saga|greene|cn}}, {{saga|bearstein|cn}}, {{saga|gameplace|cn}}, {{saga|julie|cn}}, {{saga|emily|cn}}, {{saga|ivy|cn}}, {{saga|liquid|cn}}, {{saga|asperchu|cn}}, {{saga|secondexile|cn}}
}}

'''Robert "Bob" Franklin Chandler Jr.'''<ref>[[Blanca E-mails#Chris likes Blanca|Email to Blanca]]</ref> (4 September [[Pre-1980#1920s|1927]] – 6 September [[2011]]<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20180110224343/http://www.harveypowers.com/wynn/wynn/d155.html</ref>) was the father of [[Christian Weston Chandler]], [[Carol Chandler]] and [[David Alan Chandler]], the stepfather of [[Cole Smithey]], and husband of [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara Weston Chandler]]. Bob became a firm favorite with [[trolls]] due to Chris's antipathy towards him and for his infamous cameo when he [[Bob Walks In|walked in]] on Chris [[mass debating]].<ref>[[Bob Walks In]]</ref> His nickname, "The [[Chris and the Internet|Internet]] Lumberjack", came from this incident, wherein he promised to cut the internet down.

Despite being estranged from his other children and despised by his stepson for abusive behavior, Bob was widely viewed as a better parent than his wife [[Barbara]] by Christorians, and – as far as Chris's own testimony can be trusted – he treated Chris better than any of his previous children. Bob had serious difficulties working with Chris's [[autism]], a disorder that he and his wife did not fully understand, but nonetheless, he had high hopes for his child in spite of the difficulties that he faced. Bob hoped to instill Chris with a variety of interests that reflected his own varied tastes, and he created The Dreaming Studio in their backyard in the hopes that they'd create things there (though, sadly, nothing of note was created there).

Because of this, Bob's popularity stems from being somewhat concerned with Chris's foolish behavior, and the fact that he occasionally tried to encourage a modicum of responsibility in Chris's sorry life, bringing up the fact that he devoted 29 years to raising his son. Of course, Chris was almost entirely unaffected by Bob's efforts to better him, but unlike Barb he at least made the effort. That being said, he also encouraged Chris to ''not'' seek employment in favor of getting [[Monthly Tugboat|welfare]], even though Chris could still hold a part-time job and receive those benefits, so he's not entirely blameless for the sorry state that his son is in today, either. Not to mention that many of [[Homos|Chris's more backward]] [[Chris and race|social perspectives]] that he had in the "Classic Era" stem from his influence.

Bob was always eager to chat, and indeed much of the known information about Bob's life comes from conversations he had with trolls. (It seems that Chris's passion for [[Honest Content]] did not fall too far from that tree, although Bob at least had a filter that his son lacks.) Whether in person or over the phone Bob appeared to relish the opportunity to speak with just about anyone.

On 6 September 2011, Bob died of complications from heart failure at Martha Jefferson Hospital ICU, surrounded by his family, his pastor and hospital staff.<ref name="BobObitarchive">http://web.archive.org/web/20130211071324/http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dailyprogress/obituary.aspx?n=robert-franklin-chandler&pid=153539600 (archive from 11 Feb 2013)</ref> He was survived by his wife and son, who now had to become the man of the house occasionally raked in some income through commission work, though he has never looked for a serious career. Chris initially came to terms with his father's death in a conventional, healthy way, but eventually turned to a [[Chris and coping|coping]] mechanism where he genuinely believed that his father was alive in [[Dimensions|another dimension]] as a [[Sonichu (species)|Sonichu]] named Robertchu.

Years later in 2021, Chris repeatedly cuckolded his own father by having dubiously-consensual sex with his wife in an [[Affair with Mother|incest]]-based affair, with Chris bragging that he could get Barb off better than "Mr. C" ever could. Following this incident, both were separated from the house that he maintained, with Chris jailed, Barb temporarily hospitalized, and the Dreaming Studio left abandoned.

According to Chris, he was also a strong negotiator.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/The_Place_chats_-_ProjectSNT_and_Opuscon789#Browsing_Kiwi_Farms</ref>

==Biography==
Bob was born in {{w|Fort Worth, Texas}} at 4:15 PM,<ref name="Prank calls">[[Prank calls]]</ref> and raised in {{w|Sylacauga, Alabama}}.<ref name="About">[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#About Bob (7:18 - 16:45)]]</ref> He was the only child of Robert Franklin Chandler Sr. (8 February 1906<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/103153414/robert-franklin-chandler ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328063730/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/H5S7-BZM archive])</ref> – 27 December 1977<ref>https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG5R-6M6 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328072547/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG5R-6M6 archive])</ref>), an Alabamian insurance agent, and Jean Holloman (28 March 1906<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/5947049/jean-chandler ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328094240/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/H5S7-12M archive])</ref> – 10 May 1945<ref>https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JK33-QW8 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328092829/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JK33-QW8 archive])</ref>), a Texan housewife.<ref>[[:File:Bob Chandler's birth certificate.jpg]]</ref> Bob has eight younger half-siblings on his father's side.<ref>https://www.hufffuneralhome.com/obituary/Dorothy-Chandler</ref> He also mentioned having a cousin and several [[Cherokee]] relatives in Oklahoma.<ref>[[Prank calls#Bob Calls Himself]]</ref><ref>[[Prank calls#A Redneck calls Bob Chandler]]</ref> However, a distant relative disputed his Cherokee heritage,<ref>[[Chandler Family Tree#Ancestry.com content]]</ref> and his son's [[Cherokian Clan#Reality|DNA test results]] in 2018 belied any American Indian descent. It is common for white Southerners to make dubious claims to Cherokee ancestry, for a variety of historical reasons.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201210120042/https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2015/10/cherokee-blood-why-do-so-many-americans-believe-they-have-cherokee-ancestry.html Slate article]</ref>

Bob has said that he was "interested in the world" around him since he was ten, and began collecting foreign [[stamps]] as a child in the [[1930s]]: his first stamp was of {{w|Michael I of Romania}}. He also developed an interest in foreign music, eventually collecting some 15,000–20,000 LPs from various genres and cultures.<ref name="PSN 37"/> About 100 or so survived the 2014 [[house fire]].<ref>[[Discord Q&A 4#Bob's record collection]]</ref>

Bob joined the [[wikipedia:Boy Scouts of America|Boy Scouts]], becoming an Eagle Scout and a Scoutmaster for over 20 years.<ref>[[Bob's Letters to Chris]]</ref>

According to Chris, Bob lost his [[virgin with rage|virginity]] at the age of 27, which would have been in 1954 or 1955.<ref>[[January 2012 Facebook Posts#February is coming up]]</ref>

===Service and education===

A 1942 yearbook from Sylacauga High School lists a "Bobby Chandler" in the freshman class and glee club, suggesting that he graduated from this school in spring 1945 before matriculating at {{w|Auburn University}} as an aeronautical engineering major that autumn.

[[File:Chris Korean War Graphic.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Bob served in Korea, and, thankfully for Chris, who believes that he was a sperm carried in one of his father's testicles during that time, he left before the Korean War broke out.]]

Bob apparently had knowledge that the Army desired,<ref>(Majoring in Aeronautical Engineering, Auburn University, Freshman p. 95 of the 1946 yearbook [https://web.archive.org/web/20170725175556/http://content.lib.auburn.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/gloms/id/4124/rec/14])</ref> was conscripted as a special draftee in 1946 and placed in the {{w|Signal Corps (United States Army)|Signal Corps}}. There, he learned how to install valve systems, switchboards, and telephones. After basic training and Signal School, Bob was sent to Korea for a year to install infrastructure with the American occupation force. Serving until 1948, he was entitled to the WWII Victory Medal: his service number was 44107856.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201210120633/https://aad.archives.gov/aad/record-detail.jsp?dt=893&mtch=11&tf=F&q=Chandler&bc=&sort=24996%2520desc&rpp=10&pg=4&rid=8565331&rlst=5136538%2C4652469%2C8564216%2C1000879%2C987835%2C4549799%2C991002%2C8565331%2C5188385%2C8565346]</ref> Figuring he'd get "swallowed up" at a big college, Bob picked a small college, {{w|Jacksonville State Teachers College}} (now Jacksonville State University), after leaving the military. He studied pre-engineering and joined the band there for two years before returning to Auburn University, where he studied electrical engineering and graduated in 1952 with a {{w|Bachelor of Electrical Engineering}} degree.<ref>(page 269 of the 1952 yearbook)[https://web.archive.org/web/20170725175342/http://content.lib.auburn.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/gloms/id/16173/rec/20] {{w|G.I. Bill}}.</ref><ref name="About" /> As an engineer, he never learned to spell properly.<ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#The Date Begins (4:47 - 7:17)]]</ref> While he was at Auburn, he was part of the band once again, the {{w|Wesley Foundation}}, a [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|United Methodist]] religious group,; and Phi Mu Alpha, a social frat dedicated to men who are interested in music.

===Career===
[[File:Bob 25th Anniversary at General Electric.jpg|thumb|200px|Article on Bob's 25th anniversary at General Electric.]]

Bob worked for {{w|Western Electric}} as an engineer for 40 years. There he designed a variety of electrical subsystems. During the 1950s, he lived in [[wikipedia:Winston-Salem, North Carolina|Winston-Salem, North Carolina]], where his father and half of his half-siblings were also living at for the rest of their life. He was then offered a job by [[wikipedia:General Electric|General Electric]] in [[wikipedia:Utica, New York|Utica, New York]]. Since New York is too cold (and Yankee) for Bob, he left after three years, returning back to Winston-Salem for a few years before transferring to [[wikipedia:Roanoke, Virginia|Roanoke]] in Southwest Virginia, where he discovered his love for the mountains. In 1975, he moved to [[Richmond]], where he worked until 1980, when he was transferred to [[Charlottesville]].<ref name="About" /> He worked with both Goodrich and Goodyear.<ref name="PSN 37" />

With General Electric, Bob was responsible for at least seven patents. [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] claimed, in an e-mail to [[Shigeru Miyamoto|Miyamoto]], that without Bob's influence in the computer world, the {{w|Nintendo Entertainment System|NES}} "might not have arrived so soon",<ref name="Barbara" /> ignoring the fact that the NES was designed and released in Japan in 1983, without influence from American electronics.

{{quote|Bob Chandler is one of the most creative engineers in the organization.|The General Manager at G.E.<ref>[[:File:Bob 25th Anniversary at General Electric.jpg]]</ref>}}

Examples of Bob's accomplishments include an automated steel mill for rolling steel for cars, a paper mill for the production of Kleenex, warehousing, railroads and tanker ships. He designed scooters, die casting machines, machines for producing plastic products<ref name="About" /> and a vehicle logging system.<ref>https://patents.google.com/patent/US3486009</ref> Both Chris and Barbara have bragged that Bob designed controls<ref>https://patents.google.com/patent/US3889849</ref> that were used in plastic water container molding machines.<ref name="About" /><ref name="Barbara">[[Miyamoto Saga#Barbara]]</ref>

Bob retired in 1987 at the age of 59 or 60.<ref>[[Bob's Letters to Chris#Open Letter - December 26th, 1987]]</ref> His relatively early retirement may have been provoked by health problems, as he writes in his December 1987 [[Bob's Letters to Chris|letter to Chris]] that "I know now that I, at best, haven't much time left to share myself with you".

Bob himself was proud of his "natural inclination for logic", although he was "inundated" by all his designs and whether he did well for the world. Would plastic water bottles lead to mankind's salvation or utter destruction? Only time would tell.<ref name="About" />

===World consciousness===
[[Image:0012-BobbyReading.jpg|thumb|Bob Chandler learning how to cut that Internet down.]]

{{quote|I have been very interested in the world since I was 10 years old, and that was 70 years ago and, the, uh, I'm very fond of and I really truly believe in the United Nations, but you won't find anybody else in my countryside or around here, I think, that does. (laughing) But anyway, I'm very world conscious.|[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7|Bob]]}}

Bob referred to himself as a {{w|Republican Party (United States)|Republican}}, and he did not vote for [[Barack Obama]] in {{w|United States presidential election, 2008|the 2008 presidential election}}.<ref name="Prank calls"/> That said, he had misgivings about {{w|Bob McDonnell}}, the Republican candidate in the {{w|Virginia gubernatorial election, 2009|2009 Virginia gubernatorial election}} and the ultimate winner of the election, possibly because of McDonnell's support for very strict anti-abortion laws, which made no exceptions for cases of rape or [[Chris and sex#incest|incest]]. Bob and Chris considered writing in Snoopy from ''[[Peanuts]]'' as a protest vote.<ref>[[Regina e-mails#Wikipedia: The answer to everything]]</ref>

In a potentially damaging moment on 18 [[February 2009]], Bob doubted the existence of [[Molvanîa]], [[Julie]]'s country of origin.<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.5]]</ref> However, he continued talking on the grounds that his grasp of post-Soviet geography was shaky, and he apparently convinced himself that Molvanîa was the same place as the real country of Moldova, a former Soviet republic located near the Black Sea.<ref name="PSN 37">[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7]]</ref> However, he rather damningly failed to question why Julie spoke perfect English with an American accent.

Besides Korea, Bob also visited Australia and England at some point in his life.<ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#Retired life (0:16:59–0:24:22)]]</ref>

==Relationships==

===Previous family===

Bob was previously married to a woman named Patricia Harley on 25 September 1956 at a United Methodist church in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. They had two children, [[David Alan Chandler]] (b. 1962) and [[Carol Suzanne Chandler]] (b. 1969).

Bob and Patricia separated on 28 June 1976 before divorcing on 28 January 1980.<ref name="BobObit">https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/dailyprogress/name/robert-franklin-chandler-obituary?n=robert-franklin-chandler&pid=153539600</ref><ref>[[:File:1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.png]]</ref> Bob's relationships with David and Carol were strained in his later years.<ref name="Cole2">[[:Image:Cole 07-03-06-2.PNG|6 March 2007 email, page 2]]</ref> Chris did not know he had a niece, via David, named [[Savannah Chandler|Savannah]] until she was 8 years old<ref>[[CWC's Diary#January 2004]]</ref>, and Bob's relationship with Carol was even more strained. According to Chris, Bob was always concerned about Carol. None of the Chandlers knew what was going on with her, and last they heard she was working for the federal government, implying that she did not show up to her father's funeral.<ref>[[:File:Savannah_chandler3.png]]</ref> David, on the other hand, did attend his father's funeral.<ref>[[:File:Savannah_chandler.png]]</ref>

===Barbara===

[[Image:0063-BobAndBarbaraNewLife.jpg|thumb|With [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]]]]

Bob and [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] met in 1979 at "Maddy's Pub" in Richmond<ref>[[April 2012 Facebook posts#Fear of the future]]</ref> (probably Matt's British Pub in Shockoe Slip, where Bob was a sing-along leader in the late 1970s).<ref name=godbear>[[IT TOOK A TALKING BEAR TO GIVE THE NAME A YOUNG BOY LOVES]]</ref> Barbara was there with a friend and Bob was singing.<ref name="Mumble 3.5">[[Mumble 3.5]]</ref> According to Chris, Bob claims that Barbara did the [[How to Talk to Girls|pursuing]]: "She chased him down the hallway." Barb, however, disputes this.<ref>[[The 24th Wedding Anniversary Special#Part 2]]</ref> This is probably why Chris figured that he could get away with being passive in terms of courtship. In contrast, [[Cole Smithey|Cole]]'s friend Chuck McGuigan, who worked at the pub as a bartender, has a vivid memory of them "acting out as a couple of drunken losers".<ref name="Cole2" />

They got married in 1980,<ref name="Mumble 3.5" /> only months after Bob and Patricia had divorced.<ref>[[:File:1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.jpeg]]</ref> Barb later told Chris that she only married Bob because "he owned [[14 Branchland Court|a house]]."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022]]</ref>

According to Chris, Barbara did not have sex with Bob for at least two decades before his passing. They had been sleeping in separate rooms in the years leading up to his death.<ref>[[IRC (27 December 2008)]]</ref>

===Cole===
Bob married Barbara when her son [[Cole Smithey|Cole]] was nearly 17, around the time Cole left to lead his own life.

Cole feels that Bob's bitterness worked to separate his relationship with his mother. Cole said he would celebrate<ref name="Cole2"/> "when that fuck Bob finally drops",<ref>[[:Image:Cole 07-07-24-3.PNG|Email from Cole to Chris]]</ref> but it is unknown if he did so. Cole said that he and Bob shared a mutual hatred,<ref name="Cole2" /> though there isn't any proof that Bob hated Cole. In the least, it is certain that Bob knew Cole didn't like him.<ref name="Raising"/>

===Chris===

{{see also|Bob's Letters to Chris}}

{{quote|Get away from the Internet! I'm cutting it down, right now.|Bob Chandler, Internet lumberjack.}}

[[File:Dreaming studio.png|thumb|Dreaming studio of Mr. C and Little C. Where dreams do come true - 1989.]]

When Chris was a boy, Bob encouraged him to learn more about the world and tried sharing his interests and hobbies, including engineering, geography and [[Stamps|stamp collecting]].

When Chris was seven, Bob converted a shed in the backyard of [[14 Branchland Court]] to a workshop where he and Chris could build things together, dubbing it the "dreaming studio". Chris could not recall what they had built together when asked about it in the years following Bob's death;<ref>[[IRL Tour of 14 Branchland Court]]</ref> he and Barb had been using the space for hoard storage.

Bob wished that Chris was more interested in the world. He tried to teach Chris about foreign geography such as [[Julie|Europe]] and [[PandaHalo|Australia]], but he thought (correctly) that Chris doesn't understand countries and continents beyond what he's seen on [[television]], and only can associate with the places he's physically been to in Virginia.<ref name="PSN 37" />

Bob enjoyed collecting stamps as a boy growing up in the 1930s, and he continued to do so for several decades, with a focus on the United Nations and foreign countries,<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7]]</ref> building a collection of stamp albums which filled six boxes.<ref>[[I'm selling my father's stamp collection; come on down and buy some of it]]</ref> He taught Chris about his hobby, buying him a beginner's stamp album in 1992.<ref>[[eBay#Chris's stamp album]]</ref> Chris seemed to enjoy the hobby as well, since he had many pages of stamps filled in. In [[Bob's Letters to Chris|written letters]] to Chris (written when Chris was a few years old), Bob gave Chris permission to pass along his various collections onto others after inheriting them. In 2017, Chris began selling pieces of the inherited stamp collection. He priced Bob's pieces at decent prices, generally for $5 per set, though tried to sell his own personal stamp album for $1,000.<ref>[[eBay]] - see listings for their stamp collections.</ref>

Bob's racist joke that [[Barack Obama]] would paint the White House black as soon as he became president influenced Chris to draw it in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]].

Chris's phobia of [[Pickle|penises]] was apparently sparked from barging into his parents' room, where Bob had a habit of sleeping nude from the waist down.<ref>[[February 2020 social media posts#On seeing his father's penis]]</ref>

Chris has often complained about stressful confrontations with his father:

{{quote|well, my father is a major stressor against me; starts arguements, annoys me, [[Chris and health#hygiene|rarely washes his hands after restroom breaks]] (lord knows I've tried to encourage him to wash numerous time, and rarely succeeded).|Chris, [[IRC (31 December 2008)]]}}

However, the many instances of Bob communicating with trolls show that he was generally pleasant and amicable, not at all inclined to start arguments, as Chris asserts. As seen during the lead up to the fateful encounter between [[Emily]], Chris and the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]], Bob seemed to be more than happy to discuss stories with people, even those he hadn't seen or heard that much of - [[Robert Simmons V]], who met Bob during his [[Church audio|visit to Chris's church]] conversed with him extensively, later saying that he was a 'really pleasant guy'. The antagonism to which Chris refers is likelier to be Bob attempting to constructively criticize Chris in order to better him, as Chris deeply resents being told what he does not want to hear.
[[File:Bob drawing Nov. '15.jpg|thumb|200px|left|A drawing of Bob by Chris, released in [[November 2015]].]]

An example of this criticism was Bob telling Chris that, since Bob had looked after Chris for 29 years despite his childish and outrageous behavior, Chris should show more gratitude towards him. Chris was completely dismissive, figuring that his father was ''obligated'' to take care of him, and seeing no reason he should demonstrate any foreign concepts like "love", "support", "gratitude", and "willingness to help". Reinforcing Bob's point, Chris still ran for his father's aid when he felt threatened, as in the later parts of the [[Kacey and Liquid Call]].

Despite Bob's occasional frustration over Chris's actions, he seemed to have bought into the theory that Chris is tormented by a [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|complex network of enemies spanning the entire world]], due to the success that he has earned from his own Sonichu franchise.<ref name="Church">[[Church audio]]</ref><ref name="Noble">[[Matthew Noble call]]</ref> In the [[Matthew Noble call]], it appears that Bob seemed to be the origin of Chris's tendency to bring up unrelated mishaps and debacles to make current incidents and sources of [[stress]] seem "petty" in comparison.

[[Image:0106-ChristianWDad.jpg|thumb|Bob and a younger Christian. Note Chris's "Family Bonding" shirt.]]
Once during a phone call with a troll, Bob stated that Chris was [[Chris and anger|"a hell of a lot nicer"]] and "has done a lot better than" the troll calling him.<ref name="Prank">[[Prank_calls#Snake_Productions_Calls_Bob_Chandler]]</ref>

He seemed never to get past the notion that Chris could and had achieved things, given that he continued to have to nursemaid Chris well into his son's late 20s. In the later parts of 2009 and throughout 2010, as chronicled in Chris's e-mails with [[Vivian Gee E-mails, 2009|Vivian Gee]] and [[Jackie E-mails 7|Jackie]], Bob had been forced to take an increasingly active role in controlling Chris's spending and debt, paying off Chris's credit cards with his own money in an attempt to prevent interest charges from spiraling even further out of control. By the fall of 2010, he was monitoring Chris's bank accounts on a daily basis and keeping him on a strict allowance. Upon finding out about Chris's [[Tomgirl Pictures|escapades]] in early 2011, Bob's reaction was to question Chris's sexuality, at one point even calling him a fag.

Chris has said specifically that he doesn't have to love his father, but has to respect him.<ref>[[Mumble 1#Transcript|Mumble Chat 1]]</ref> Confidential details collected after Bob's death, however, suggests Chris was more emotionally attached than he let on, providing rare and precious evidence that Chris doesn't take the presence of others for granted. He also got genuinely emotional while reading a letter that his father had left for him on-camera, again indicating how much he misses his father.<ref>[[CLog 09042017 - Mister C]]</ref>

In [[December 2012]], Chris uploaded the soundtrack from the [[WTJU Marathon|1990 WTJU Jazz Marathon]], in which Bob was a performer and a host. It was notable as one of the few moments where Chris publicly honored his father's memory since the latter's passing in [[September 2011]].

Bob lives on his son's memory. Chris noted the occasion of his father's passing by attaching angel wings to the [[Lego]] minifigure representing him,<ref>Seen at 4:24 in [[CWC Lego Manchester High School Oct 18 2013]]</ref> and displaying two photos of him in front of his TV.<ref>[[:File:Totem2ebay.jpeg]]</ref> He often visits Bob in his [[dreams]].<ref>[[March 2012 Facebook Posts#Still Feeling Lonely II|March 2012 Facebook Posts]]</ref><ref>[[List of OkCupid Answers#2014 Answers--LevelUpKing|OkCupid Answers]]</ref>

Due to the influence of the [[Idea Guys]], Chris expressed beliefs that Bob is half-Sonichu and is apparently still alive in the [[CWCville]] dimension. These beliefs began around December 2017 and continued even after the Idea Guys had been removed from power, as shown by the below quote from 2018's Father's Day.

{{quotebox|[[File:Father's Day 2018.jpg|200px|thumb]]

<nowiki>#HappyFathersDay</nowiki> to each and every Father in This World and in Every Single Other Dimension Too! My father is alive again! I still love him, even in his checker-patterned glory! ⚡️💙❤️⚡️<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20191211070743/https://twitter.com/cwcsonichu/status/1008449921387778048</ref>}}

===Other relationships===
In spite of his redneck background, Bob seems to have gotten along better with foreigners than with his own countrymen. His closest friend in Richmond was Reverend Chen of Korean Canaan Presbyterian Church,<ref>Emily Date Conversation Transcript</ref> and he had English friends through his involvement with Matt's British Pub.<ref name=godbear></ref> He also had friends in Australia.<ref>BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7</ref>

From his father's second marriage, Bob had "a large number of half-brothers and sisters in... [[wikipedia:Winston-Salem, North Carolina|Salem, North Carolina]]",<ref>[[Bob's Letters to Chris]]</ref> but he does not seem to have been very close with them. Bob's stepmother's obituary confirms that eight of these half-siblings were alive as of 2015.<ref>https://www.hufffuneralhome.com/obituary/Dorothy-Chandler</ref>

[[Prank calls#Call Bobby Chandler|Contrary to popular beliefs]], he did not have friends in the Ku Klux Klan.

==Later life, poor health and death==
[[File:Bob playbill for musical push cart.jpg|thumb|200px|Playbill for Mr. C. and his musical pushcart.]]

Bob lived on social security and his General Electric pension.<ref name="Raising">[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#Raising Chris-Chan (16:46 - 00:00)]]</ref> He never really had people to chat with at home (he would ramble to [[Trolls|total strangers]] on the phone if he could), so he sat around, listened to music, and took care of the garden inside the greenhouse.<ref name="PSN 37" /> With a 1970s stereo system set up in the greenhouse, he went to "swing with the music" on his swing there.<ref name="Raising" />

Bob had two triple bypasses and four heart attacks. The two triple-bypass operations took place first in August 1980 and at last in 1992. He had {{w|Coronary artery disease}} and wore an {{w|Artificial cardiac pacemaker|artificial pacemaker}}.<ref>[[Autism papers#FAMILY_HISTORY:]]</ref><ref>[[Mumble 3]]</ref> He apparently had several vivid near-death experiences: during [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#Bob's health problems (0:24:23–0:25:29)|Chris's date with]] [[Emily]], Bob tells her that he has "died" several times, and Chris says that Bob "has seen the light, but did not actually go to it." In one prank call, Bob revealed that after surgery for cancer it was discovered that he had a fluid build-up in his legs, which is symptomatic of CHF. This rapid decline in health worried him.<ref name="Prank calls"/> He attributed his long life to the [[Cherokee]] in him. His uncles and grandfather all lived past 90.<ref name="PSN 37" /> Despite his heart troubles he continued to eat at [[Burger King]] daily.<ref>[[Prank calls#Calls to Bob and Chris]]</ref><ref>[[Trollin Train#Hey, guys (Sun 22 Aug 2010)]]</ref>

On 1 [[March 2010]], Chris [[Twitter|tweeted]] that Bob had been taken to the hospital in the early morning for "congested [''sic''] {{w|heart failure}}". Chris seemed confident that his father was not in for a long stay. Considering Bob's age, lifestyle, and long history of heart disease, [[Chris and death|Chris did not seem to grasp the seriousness of his heart failure]]. Bob had been the only thing keeping [[14 Branchland Court|the Chandler household]] from imploding, and as such, trolls and white knights alike wished him the very best.

[[Image:Bobbed.jpg|thumb|Apart from the dying heart]]

In the month following Bob's hospitalization, Chris was remarkably quiet on the subject of his father. News about his condition was hard to come by, as information only arose [[Chris and his Ego|when Chris was inclined to complain about it online]]. Statistically, congestive heart failure is not as immediately fatal as its name implies,<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201210121845/https://www.healthline.com/health/chf-life-expectancy]</ref> but Bob's age, prior heart attacks and [[Tour of Chris's House|lifestyle]] made this a very serious situation.

Chris's videos over the month of March made no mention of Bob at all. Staying true to his painfully predictable nature, Chris instead lost a [[The Wallflower|girlfriend he never had]], [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|made racial slurs and death threats towards a cartoon character]], and [[F Abstinance|raged against abstinence]]. His silence on the subject of his father was probably because of [[Naïve|genuine ignorance]] of the seriousness of his father's condition.

A poster on [[/cwc/]] contacted Chris via PSN regarding Bob. He posted a screen capture of Chris's response, saying, "He is doing much better, thank you."<ref>[[:File:Bobbetter.jpg]]</ref> Another contacted Chris via email and got a response saying, "Yes, my father is healthy and safe." Clearly he was neither, but this was at least proof that Bob hadn't joined the Whites-Only section of Heaven just yet. In late May, Chris finally made [[Some Favored Comedians|a brief mention]] in a public video that his father was "alive and well". Chris was, at least, half right.

A breakdown of Bob's final months reads as follows.

On 24 March 2011, Bob claimed in a phone call to have cancer of some description.<ref>http://youtu.be/y-GGSOyCm2k</ref>

On 23 April 2011, in an e-mail to Jackie, Chris revealed that Bob had received surgery for colon cancer.<ref>[[Jackie_E-mails_24]]</ref>

On 20 July 2011, it was revealed that [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia#Re: Coming out to my parents|Bob knew about Chris's cross-dressing tendencies]] and, like Barb, vehemently disapproved of them.

On 29 August 2011, Chris, now deeply entrenched in his [[Tomgirl Saga|tomgirlish ways]], [[Response to ADF|mentioned that Bob was an ill and sickly shut-in]], and was suffering from [[Chris and English|"feet-bloatings"]].

In early September 2011, Bob was rushed by ambulance to Martha Jefferson hospital with heart failure. [[Rocky Shoemaker call|It was discovered later]] that Bob had been put into quarantine when he arrived because his body was [[14 Branchland Court|covered in bug bites]] and he posed a contamination risk. On the sixth of that month, he died at age 84.<ref name="BobObit"></ref> Out of respect for him and his family, the CWCki was closed for a week, 12–19 September, with the start date coinciding with the day Bob's funeral service was held. Site visitors were directed to a page which simply read "Robert Franklin Chandler Jr. 1927–2011".<ref name="BobObit" />

It is said that [[Man in the Pickle Suit|Marvin]] and other trolls, using the [[Jackie]] identity as a catfish, attempted to contact Chris over the phone shortly after Bob's death for unclear reasons; Chris was noted to be audibly upset as he cried throughout the conversation. While the audio was recorded and archived on what is referred to as the "Black Tape" by some Christorians, the contents of the call were never released publicly due to Chris's miserable emotional state. The trolls who participated in the call realized after the fact that it was simply too soon to try to reach out to Chris in this fashion and, for a change, opted to respect his privacy for once. The Black Tape either still exists in the hands of the trolls who participated in its creation, or it has been lost to time.<ref>[[CWCki Forums posts (Marvin)#The Black Tape]]</ref>

Bob's death also marked another significant change in Chris's life, as the vast majority of the trolls associated with the [[Christorical eras|"Classic Era"]] voluntarily retired from trolling Chris, knowing that he was deeply depressed by his father's demise. Only a few of these trolls still remain active as observers on [[Kiwi Farms]], and a trolling renaissance did not begin until much later in the decade with the advent of the [[Idea Guys]].

==Cause of death==
Despite the fairly clear-cut nature of the lumberjack's passing, Chris has since declared that the [[trolls]] were responsible for Bob's death. In an [[Misc_E-mails|email]] leaked on 22 [[March 2014]], Chris claims that the stress of his trolling led to Bob's heart attack. This keeps in the trend Chris has developed of blaming any and all misfortunes (even those faced by everyone, like burying a family member) on trolls.

{{quote|AND the total [[stress]] KILLED my Father Prematurely; if not for those Trolls, he would still be alive, and would have likely lived beyond 2015.|Chris.}}

Even for Chris this is appalling behavior; using the '''death of his own father''' as a vehicle to play the victim and attempt to stave off trolls. While it's not uncommon for those who have lost loved ones to blame their deaths on external causes (however impossible or insane, as in this case) Chris's actions are motivated purely out of selfishness and egotism – business as usual.

Years later, in 2017, Chris revised his claim and said that Bob was killed after hospital staff surprised him with a "Loud Noise". He went on to say that he had more freedom when Bob was alive.

{{quote|I wish I could go back to September 5, 2011 and stop the staff from making the Loud Noise that killed my father with stressful surprise. I had more freedom when he was alive.|Chris<ref name=LoudNoise></ref>}}

==Obituary==
Both [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] and Chris collaborated in writing Bob's obituary, which was published in two local papers. Main points of the obituary, apart from the standard birth date, date of death, and next of kin, include:

* Text going into [[autism|unusual detail]] about what Bob did at General Electric.
* The location of the memorial service, "to follow on a later date", at [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church]], the church that Barb, Bob and Chris used to frequent together. This is the same church that [[Rocky Shoemaker]] counseled Chris from.
* A footnote asking readers to not donate flowers, but to [[Chris and money|donate money to Barbara and Chris]].

With Chris taking part in writing the obituary, it's amazing that the writing stayed focus on Bob and did not once mention Sonichu or become about Chris (except for the request for money at the end).

===Original text===
[[Image:Rip internet lumberack by vekke.png|thumb|May you always watch over our sweet autist.]]
:''Robert Franklin Chandler Jr., 84, of Ruckersville, passed away the morning of Tuesday, September 6, 2011, at Martha Jefferson Hospital ICU surrounded by family, pastor and hospital staff.''

:''He was born on September 4, 1927, in Texas, the son of the late Robert Franklin Chandler Sr. and Jean Holloman Chandler. On June 7, 1980, he married Barbara Anne Weston, who survives. And the couple gave birth to a son, Christian Weston Chandler, who survives. Also surviving is ex-wife, Patricia, and their shared children, son, Dr. David Alan Chandler, survives, and daughter, Carol Suzanne Chandler, survives.''

:''He graduated from Auburn University with a degree in Engineering.''

:''He served in the United States Army Seoul Korea in the Signal Corp during the Korean War. He worked for General Electric as an Engineer with Steels, Plastics, etc. He also had patents for the controls for Plastic Molding Machines; without him, we would not have even a simple plastic funnel.''

:''Also surviving are granddaughter, Savannah Chandler, the daughter of David Alan Chandler and his wife, Kimberly.''

:''A funeral service will be held at Monticello Memory Gardens in Charlottesville, Virginia, 10 a.m. Monday, September 12, 2011. A memorial service to follow on a later date at Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church.''

:''Instead of flowers, you may make monetary donations to his widow, Barbara Chandler and son, Christian Chandler.<ref name="BobObit" />

==In memoriam==
[[File:Chandler_Niche.jpg|thumb|left|Bob's final resting place.]]

Bob is often seen as a gregarious, hard-working man ([[Ruckersville, VA|all things considered]]) who tried ([[Destruction Of Chris's House|albeit without]] [[26 December 2014|success]]) his best to refine Chris into someone that could at least pass for a responsible adult, giving him mock job interviews and [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript|chaperoning him on dates]], where he proved (unsurprisingly) more adept at charming the date than Chris.

On the other hand, we have him to thank for some of his son's more [[Homos|backward]] [[Niggos|worldviews]]. He managed to alienate his other children enough that [[Carol Chandler|his daughter]] didn't attend his funeral or keep in touch while he was alive. He helped Chris to construct [[Matthew Noble call|bizarre]] [[Greene County Conspiracy|conspiracy theories]] to justify [[Chris and the law|trespassing and the like]], among [[Chris and his ego|other things]]. He, like Barbara, enabled Chris's crippling dependence on them, general immaturity and irresponsibility, and his myriad of other flaws. He bailed out his son repeatedly and never really let Chris experience the [[Financhu Crisis|consequences]] of his misinformed [[Chris and money|life decisions]]. He never made any serious effort to correct his son's glaring character flaws and shortcomings, even when he caught him [[Bob Walks In|masturbating]] in the kitchen. He also did not make any real attempt to provide for Chris' future, beyond ensuring the tugboat. He left all his money to Barbara, who promptly wasted it all on [[Rob Bell|lawyer's fees]] – a conscientious parent would have anticipated this and put some of the money in a trust for Chris.

Ultimately, Bob's legacy is a complicated one. While some like to remember Bob as a kind-hearted man who tried his best to be a good father, others see him as an old backward-thinking coot who is partially responsible for the person Chris is today.

{{clear}}

==Chris's beliefs on Bob's afterlife==
===Idea Guy influences===
{{quote|Robert Franklin Chandler Jr's and Ted Bundy's souls never went to Heaven or Hell; They both became reborn ''[...]'' as their respective Sonichu forms. ''[...]'' Mister C. and Ted also serve to help the nation of CWCville in defense, and in intellect.|[[Sonichu 16|''Sonichu'' #16]], page 49}}

[[File:Bobchu.jpeg|thumb|150px|Bob's Sonichu form.]]
[[File:Bob meets Ted Bundy, Sonichu 16.JPG|Bob meets Ted Bundy in the hereafter.|thumb|150px]]

During the [[Idea Guys]] saga, Chris's belief in multiple dimensions was exploited and his sense of reality hijacked to make changes to many of Chris's characters, concepts and perspectives of the real world, with him considering them to be valid. Perhaps one of the more heinous examples of this was the Idea Guys' manipulation of Chris's views on his own father; views which Chris has yet to abandon, despite the Idea Guys being removed from power by the [[Guard Dogs]] in mid-2018. Ideas involving Bob include:

*Bob's spirit resides in CWCville, dimension [[C-197]], as a half-Sonichu named Robertchu, styled in his Sonichu form as a beaver with checkerboard fur<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20201210122024/https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1008449921387778048</ref><ref>The drawing of Robertchu was among those drawn for Idea Guy, and no references to it exist beforehand.</ref> (a reference to his troll-given Internet Lumberjack nickname).

*Bob met serial killer Ted Bundy while in CWCville and helps defend it alongside Ted.<ref>[[Sonichu 13|''Sonichu'' #13]]</ref>

[[File:RobertchuBackHome.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Robertchu as a [[Shipfic]] card.]]

Post-Idea Guys, Chris decided that Robertchu's fur color was really red with black ears because he found it too time-consuming to draw the checkerboard pattern.<ref>[[June 2019 social media posts#Father's Day memorial]]</ref>

Robertchu was featured as cards in Chris's homemade [[Shipfic]] expansion. In one, Chris photoshopped a photo of [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] so that she is standing beside a drawing of Robertchu in his Sonichu form. The card text reads, "Honey, I'm Home" and states:

{{quotebox|Every once in a while, Mister C runs back home to offer comfort to Barbara. Before the Dimension Merge's completion, she has missed him everyday, and found the solace and comfort when he comes by. He continues to carry a torch for her in his heart and soul while he helps to protect everyone in Cwcville and at this old temple of a house.}}

{{clear}}

==Appearances==

===In ''Sonichu''===
{{quote|Christian, you are not a girl! Go put your pants back on.|Bob, ''Sonichu'' #12}}

[[File:Chandlers & Sonichus.jpg|200px|thumb]]

In [[Sonichu 8#Spring Break, 2008!|"Spring Break, 2008"]], a radio announcement from [[Jamsta Sonichu]] mentions that Bob founded [[CWCville]] in 1982, presumably after Chris's birth on [[Chris's birthday|24 February]] given that Bob named the city after his newborn son. Comic Bob presumably served as mayor before Chris took the office at an unknown date. At other points, Bob was mentioned in Chris's tangents about hating men other than himself and his father.

{{Mayors of CWCville}}

In [[Sonichu_9#Episode_19|"Date Ed"]], there are two dolls for the class to practice talking to, girls received "Robert" dolls, while boys received "Barbara" dolls, an obvious reference/homage to Bob and Barb.

Bob made his first official appearance in [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]], photoshopped into a "family photo" alongside Chris, Barb and various [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]].

[[File:Borb, Sonichu12.jpg|200px|thumb|left]]

[[File:Bob,Sonichu12.jpg|200px|thumb|right]]

In [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]], Bob appears in a set of pages that combine an autobiographical account of Chris coming out as a [[tomgirl]] to his parents, and a tribute to his late father. He is depicted as an elderly man, as the page took place in 2010 (due to Chris's Oedipal complex, Barb is depicted as much more youthful). He attempts to dissuade Chris from continuing his tomgirl lifestyle, although Chris states that Bob later "told me he accepts and love [sic] me for who I am" shortly before his passing in 2011.

Chris concludes Bob's appearance in the book with a photo in memoriam of his life, saying that he and Barb continue to miss him every day.

[[File:Chandler family as ponies.png|200px|thumb|left|Bob, pictured at right, as ''Gallop Crush'', in a [[MLP]]-inspired drawing from [[August 2017]].]]

In August 2017, Chris unveiled a drawing of the Chandler family depicted as [[My Little Pony]] characters, saying that they will make further appearances in [[Sonichu 12-9|''Sonichu'' #12-9]]. The ponified Bob, known as "Gallop Crush", appears as [[Night Star]]'s father, reaffirming the self-insert nature of Chris's ponysona.

In the [[Idea Guys]]-written [[Sonichu 16|''Sonichu'' #16]], Bob's spirit crosses over into CWCville where he meets and strikes up a conversation with serial killer Ted Bundy.

===As a toy===

<center><gallery>
File:BobAmiibo.jpg|[[Amiibo]] Bob, which Chris offered for sale on [[Etsy]] in [[November 2015]]. Oh yes.
File:ChrisFamilyEtsyC.jpg|Promo drawing
</gallery></center>

===Audio and video===

In every appearance, Bob has proven himself to be better at charming Chris's [[sweetheart]]s than Chris himself (not a difficult feat, to be fair).

* [[1990]]: Bob appeared as the DJ to the [[WTJU Marathon]].
* 26 February [[1994]]: Bob appears briefly behind Chris from 0:26-0:36 in the news report of the [[Chris in the media|Sonic Watch & Win Sweepstakes]].
* 14 [[February 2009]]: [[Bob Walks In]] to Chris [[mass debating]].
* 18 [[February 2009]]: In [[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.5]] and [[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7|3.7]], Bob rambles to [[Julie]].
* 15 [[March 2009]]: Bob [[Church audio|talked]] to [[Robert Simmons V]] at [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|church]] while [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|Chris went to shit himself]].
* [[March 2009]]: Bob chaperoned Chris on his date with [[Emily]].
* 27 [[March 2009]]: Bob gets intruded by Chris in the [[Tour of Christian's House]], but is not visible.
* 27 [[August 2009]]: [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|Bob enters Chris's room]] and scolds him for making the house tour, (correctly) fearing that if someone saw the house as it was, they would be evicted (Uncut version only). This is a momentous occasion, showing some awareness on the part of the Chandlers that the filth and squalor they live in is a health hazard. This video subsequently off a wave of emails and calls to the Greene County Health Department, masterminded by trolls who hoped to realize Bob's fear of eviction, but the campaign was seemingly unsuccessful.
* [[November 2009]]: Bob and [[Barb|Snorlax]] make a brief appearance at the end of the [[Kacey and Liquid Call]].
* 15 [[August 2010]]: In his final outing on the damn Internet, Bob gets a [[Matthew Noble call|call from the GAMe PLACe]] and is informed of Chris's actions earlier in the year. He then goes on a tangent about how Chris has been tormented by everyone ever since he was banned, and then demands Michael Snyder's information. Barbara also is audible at the end of the call.
* [[Prank calls]]: Bob answered several of these. He was usually sincere when talking with prank callers, providing them with true and honest information about himself and Chris, but was occasionally pushed to trolling them back, on one occasion telling a particularly obnoxious pair of trolls that he had ties to the Ku Klux Klan.

==Gallery==
<center>
<gallery>
File:Bob1946Auburn.jpg|Bob's Auburn freshman yearbook photo, taken for the 1946 yearbook.
File:BobJax1950.PNG|Bob's 1950 Jacksonville State Teachers College sophomore yearbook photo.
File:Bobauburn1951.PNG|Bob's 1951 Auburn junior yearbook photo.
File:Bobauburn1952.PNG|Bob's Auburn senior yearbook photo.
File:WW2BobChandler(badquality).jpg|Bob's 1946 U.S. Army draftee.
File:BobPatMarriage.png|Bob and Patricia's newspaper engagement.
File:1956 9 25 - Bob, Patricia marriage license.png|1956 9 25 - Bob, Patricia marriage license.
File:1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.png|1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.
File:1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.jpeg|1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.
File:Bob and his parents - 1930s census.png|Bob and his parents - 1930s census.
File:Bob and his parents - 1940s census.png|Bob and his parents - 1940s census.
File:Bob1950Census.jpg|Bob in the Jacksonville State Teachers University's dormitory room - 1950s census.
File:Bob's birth certificate.png|Bob's birth certificate.
File:Chris's family tree up to his great great grandparents.png|Chris's family tree up to his great-great-grandparents.
Image:Thehell.jpg|
Image:0009-ChristopherChristmas2.jpg|Christmas at the Chandlers, taken sometime during the 1980s.
Image:0011-ChristopherBobXmas.jpg|That isn't Chris's half-senile old grandfather at [[Christmas]] time. It's Bob. He was that age when Chris was about one.
Image:0014-YoungerFather.jpg
Image:0032-BobAtRestraunt.jpg|
File:1993family.png|Barb, Chris and Bob in [[1993]]
Image:0038-AuntCorinaAndDad.jpg|Bob with [[Aunt Corrina]].
Image:0062-NewChristian&Dad.jpg|
Image:0120-BobbyBehindBars.jpg|
Image:0230-ChristianAndDadInClass.jpg|
File:Bob1997article1.png|Bob's short brief article from Richmond Times-Dispatch in July 1997.
File:Bob1997article2.png|Bob's short brief article from Richmond Times-Dispatch in August 1997.
Image:0626-BobbyInGarden.jpg|Bob used to enjoy gardening back in the day.
Image:CreepyBobAndChris.JPG|
Image:Bob_80th.jpg
File:Robert Chandler, 19 June 2016 Facebook post photo.jpg|Last known photo.
</gallery>
</center>

==Fan tributes==
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==References==
{{Fan Art|chris=Bob Chandler}}
<references />

==External links==
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20201210122203/https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/141038783/robert-franklin-chandler Bob Chandler at Find a Grave]

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{{quote|It was an interesting life I had.|Bob, at peace.}}

{{quote|I had more freedom when he was alive.|Chris, reflecting on his life prior to his father's death.<ref name=LoudNoise>[[February 2017 Facebook Posts#Claiming hospital staff killed Bob]]</ref>}}

{{quote|I don't believe he ever, Mr. C, any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks.|Chris, honoring Bob's memory by claiming that [[Affair with Mother|he was better at fucking]] [[Barbara Chandler|the man's wife]] [[Chris and his ego|than he ever was]].<ref>[[Incest Call]]</ref>}}

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| name = Robert Franklin Chandler Jr.
| image = Chrischansdad.jpg
|imagesize = 250
|name = Robert Franklin Chandler Jr.
|aliases = Bob Bobby Mr. C [[Bob Walks In|Internet Lumberjack]] [[:File:Chandler family as ponies.png|Gallop Crush]] Robertchu<ref>[[List of beliefs brainwashed into Chris#Sonichu genealogy for Chris, Bob and Ted Bundy]]</ref>
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|month = 9
|year = 1927
|deathday = 6
|deathmonth = 9
|deathyear = 2011
|gender = Male
|nationality = [[United States|American]]
|race = White [[Count Dankula|Half-Sonichu]]<ref>Planted by [[Idea Guys#Lingering influence|Idea Guy]], mentioned in [[Count Dankula]] interview</ref>
|religion = Protestant (Methodist)
|spouse = Patricia Faye Harley (1956–1980) [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara Ann Weston]] (1980–2011)
|children = Dr. David Alan Chandler Carol Suzanne Chandler [[Christian Weston Chandler]] [[Cole Smithey]] (stepson)
|grandchildren = [[Savannah Chandler]]
|father = Robert Franklin Chandler Sr. (1906–1977)
|mother = Jean Holloman (1906–1945)
|education = [[wikipedia:Auburn_University|Auburn University]] ([[wikipedia:Bachelor of Electrical Engineering|BEE]]) [[wikipedia:Jacksonville_State_University|Jacksonville State University]] (did not graduate)
|occupation = Military communications Engineer Inventor
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'''Robert "Bob" Franklin Chandler Jr.'''<ref>[[Blanca E-mails#Chris likes Blanca|Email to Blanca]]</ref> (4 September [[Pre-1980#1920s|1927]] – 6 September [[2011]]<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20180110224343/http://www.harveypowers.com/wynn/wynn/d155.html</ref>) was the father of [[Christian Weston Chandler]], [[Carol Chandler]] and [[David Alan Chandler]], the stepfather of [[Cole Smithey]], and husband of [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara Weston Chandler]]. Bob became a firm favorite with [[trolls]] due to Chris's antipathy towards him and for his infamous cameo when he [[Bob Walks In|walked in]] on Chris [[mass debating]].<ref>[[Bob Walks In]]</ref> His nickname, "The [[Chris and the Internet|Internet]] Lumberjack", came from this incident, wherein he promised to cut the internet down.

Despite being estranged from his other children and despised by his stepson for abusive behavior, Bob was widely viewed as a better parent than his wife [[Barbara]] by Christorians, and – as far as Chris's own testimony can be trusted – he treated Chris better than any of his previous children. Bob had serious difficulties working with Chris's [[autism]], a disorder that he and his wife did not fully understand, but nonetheless, he had high hopes for his child in spite of the difficulties that he faced. Bob hoped to instill Chris with a variety of interests that reflected his own varied tastes, and he created The Dreaming Studio in their backyard in the hopes that they'd create things there (though, sadly, nothing of note was created there).

Because of this, Bob's popularity stems from being somewhat concerned with Chris's foolish behavior, and the fact that he occasionally tried to encourage a modicum of responsibility in Chris's sorry life, bringing up the fact that he devoted 29 years to raising his son. Of course, Chris was almost entirely unaffected by Bob's efforts to better him, but unlike Barb he at least made the effort. That being said, he also encouraged Chris to ''not'' seek employment in favor of getting [[Monthly Tugboat|welfare]], even though Chris could still hold a part-time job and receive those benefits, so he's not entirely blameless for the sorry state that his son is in today, either. Not to mention that many of [[Homos|Chris's more backward]] [[Chris and race|social perspectives]] that he had in the "Classic Era" stem from his influence.

Bob was always eager to chat, and indeed much of the known information about Bob's life comes from conversations he had with trolls. (It seems that Chris's passion for [[Honest Content]] did not fall too far from that tree, although Bob at least had a filter that his son lacks.) Whether in person or over the phone Bob appeared to relish the opportunity to speak with just about anyone.

On 6 September 2011, Bob died of complications from heart failure at Martha Jefferson Hospital ICU, surrounded by his family, his pastor and hospital staff.<ref name="BobObitarchive">http://web.archive.org/web/20130211071324/http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dailyprogress/obituary.aspx?n=robert-franklin-chandler&pid=153539600 (archive from 11 Feb 2013)</ref> He was survived by his wife and son, who now had to become the man of the house occasionally raked in some income through commission work, though he has never looked for a serious career. Chris initially came to terms with his father's death in a conventional, healthy way, but eventually turned to a [[Chris and coping|coping]] mechanism where he genuinely believed that his father was alive in [[Dimensions|another dimension]] as a [[Sonichu (species)|Sonichu]] named Robertchu.

Years later in 2021, Chris repeatedly cuckolded his own father by having dubiously-consensual sex with his wife in an [[Affair with Mother|incest]]-based affair, with Chris bragging that he could get Barb off better than "Mr. C" ever could. Following this incident, both were separated from the house that he maintained, with Chris jailed, Barb temporarily hospitalized, and the Dreaming Studio left abandoned.

==Biography==
Bob was born in {{w|Fort Worth, Texas}} at 4:15 PM,<ref name="Prank calls">[[Prank calls]]</ref> and raised in {{w|Sylacauga, Alabama}}.<ref name="About">[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#About Bob (7:18 - 16:45)]]</ref> He was the only child of Robert Franklin Chandler Sr. (8 February 1906<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/103153414/robert-franklin-chandler ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328063730/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/H5S7-BZM archive])</ref> – 27 December 1977<ref>https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG5R-6M6 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328072547/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG5R-6M6 archive])</ref>), an Alabamian insurance agent, and Jean Holloman (28 March 1906<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/5947049/jean-chandler ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328094240/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/H5S7-12M archive])</ref> – 10 May 1945<ref>https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JK33-QW8 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328092829/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JK33-QW8 archive])</ref>), a Texan housewife.<ref>[[:File:Bob Chandler's birth certificate.jpg]]</ref> Bob has eight younger half-siblings on his father's side.<ref>https://www.hufffuneralhome.com/obituary/Dorothy-Chandler</ref> He also mentioned having a cousin and several [[Cherokee]] relatives in Oklahoma.<ref>[[Prank calls#Bob Calls Himself]]</ref><ref>[[Prank calls#A Redneck calls Bob Chandler]]</ref> However, a distant relative disputed his Cherokee heritage,<ref>[[Chandler Family Tree#Ancestry.com content]]</ref> and his son's [[Cherokian Clan#Reality|DNA test results]] in 2018 belied any American Indian descent. It is common for white Southerners to make dubious claims to Cherokee ancestry, for a variety of historical reasons.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201210120042/https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2015/10/cherokee-blood-why-do-so-many-americans-believe-they-have-cherokee-ancestry.html Slate article]</ref>

Bob has said that he was "interested in the world" around him since he was ten, and began collecting foreign [[stamps]] as a child in the [[1930s]]: his first stamp was of {{w|Michael I of Romania}}. He also developed an interest in foreign music, eventually collecting some 15,000–20,000 LPs from various genres and cultures.<ref name="PSN 37"/> About 100 or so survived the 2014 [[house fire]].<ref>[[Discord Q&A 4#Bob's record collection]]</ref>

Bob joined the [[wikipedia:Boy Scouts of America|Boy Scouts]], becoming an Eagle Scout and a Scoutmaster for over 20 years.<ref>[[Bob's Letters to Chris]]</ref>

According to Chris, Bob lost his [[virgin with rage|virginity]] at the age of 27, which would have been in 1954 or 1955.<ref>[[January 2012 Facebook Posts#February is coming up]]</ref>

===Service and education===

A 1942 yearbook from Sylacauga High School lists a "Bobby Chandler" in the freshman class and glee club, suggesting that he graduated from this school in spring 1945 before matriculating at {{w|Auburn University}} as an aeronautical engineering major that autumn.

[[File:Chris Korean War Graphic.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Bob served in Korea, and, thankfully for Chris, who believes that he was a sperm carried in one of his father's testicles during that time, he left before the Korean War broke out.]]

Bob apparently had knowledge that the Army desired,<ref>(Majoring in Aeronautical Engineering, Auburn University, Freshman p. 95 of the 1946 yearbook [https://web.archive.org/web/20170725175556/http://content.lib.auburn.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/gloms/id/4124/rec/14])</ref> was conscripted as a special draftee in 1946 and placed in the {{w|Signal Corps (United States Army)|Signal Corps}}. There, he learned how to install valve systems, switchboards, and telephones. After basic training and Signal School, Bob was sent to Korea for a year to install infrastructure with the American occupation force. Serving until 1948, he was entitled to the WWII Victory Medal: his service number was 44107856.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201210120633/https://aad.archives.gov/aad/record-detail.jsp?dt=893&mtch=11&tf=F&q=Chandler&bc=&sort=24996%2520desc&rpp=10&pg=4&rid=8565331&rlst=5136538%2C4652469%2C8564216%2C1000879%2C987835%2C4549799%2C991002%2C8565331%2C5188385%2C8565346]</ref> Figuring he'd get "swallowed up" at a big college, Bob picked a small college, {{w|Jacksonville State Teachers College}} (now Jacksonville State University), after leaving the military. He studied pre-engineering and joined the band there for two years before returning to Auburn University, where he studied electrical engineering and graduated in 1952 with a {{w|Bachelor of Electrical Engineering}} degree.<ref>(page 269 of the 1952 yearbook)[https://web.archive.org/web/20170725175342/http://content.lib.auburn.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/gloms/id/16173/rec/20] {{w|G.I. Bill}}.</ref><ref name="About" /> As an engineer, he never learned to spell properly.<ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#The Date Begins (4:47 - 7:17)]]</ref> While he was at Auburn, he was part of the band once again, the {{w|Wesley Foundation}}, a [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|United Methodist]] religious group,; and Phi Mu Alpha, a social frat dedicated to men who are interested in music.

===Career===
[[File:Bob 25th Anniversary at General Electric.jpg|thumb|200px|Article on Bob's 25th anniversary at General Electric.]]

Bob worked for {{w|Western Electric}} as an engineer for 40 years. There he designed a variety of electrical subsystems. During the 1950s, he lived in [[wikipedia:Winston-Salem, North Carolina|Winston-Salem, North Carolina]], where his father and half of his half-siblings were also living at for the rest of their life. He was then offered a job by [[wikipedia:General Electric|General Electric]] in [[wikipedia:Utica, New York|Utica, New York]]. Since New York is too cold (and Yankee) for Bob, he left after three years, returning back to Winston-Salem for a few years before transferring to [[wikipedia:Roanoke, Virginia|Roanoke]] in Southwest Virginia, where he discovered his love for the mountains. In 1975, he moved to [[Richmond]], where he worked until 1980, when he was transferred to [[Charlottesville]].<ref name="About" /> He worked with both Goodrich and Goodyear.<ref name="PSN 37" />

With General Electric, Bob was responsible for at least seven patents. [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] claimed, in an e-mail to [[Shigeru Miyamoto|Miyamoto]], that without Bob's influence in the computer world, the {{w|Nintendo Entertainment System|NES}} "might not have arrived so soon",<ref name="Barbara" /> ignoring the fact that the NES was designed and released in Japan in 1983, without influence from American electronics.

{{quote|Bob Chandler is one of the most creative engineers in the organization.|The General Manager at G.E.<ref>[[:File:Bob 25th Anniversary at General Electric.jpg]]</ref>}}

Examples of Bob's accomplishments include an automated steel mill for rolling steel for cars, a paper mill for the production of Kleenex, warehousing, railroads and tanker ships. He designed scooters, die casting machines, machines for producing plastic products<ref name="About" /> and a vehicle logging system.<ref>https://patents.google.com/patent/US3486009</ref> Both Chris and Barbara have bragged that Bob designed controls<ref>https://patents.google.com/patent/US3889849</ref> that were used in plastic water container molding machines.<ref name="About" /><ref name="Barbara">[[Miyamoto Saga#Barbara]]</ref>

Bob retired in 1987 at the age of 59 or 60.<ref>[[Bob's Letters to Chris#Open Letter - December 26th, 1987]]</ref> His relatively early retirement may have been provoked by health problems, as he writes in his December 1987 [[Bob's Letters to Chris|letter to Chris]] that "I know now that I, at best, haven't much time left to share myself with you".

Bob himself was proud of his "natural inclination for logic", although he was "inundated" by all his designs and whether he did well for the world. Would plastic water bottles lead to mankind's salvation or utter destruction? Only time would tell.<ref name="About" />

===World consciousness===
[[Image:0012-BobbyReading.jpg|thumb|Bob Chandler learning how to cut that Internet down.]]

{{quote|I have been very interested in the world since I was 10 years old, and that was 70 years ago and, the, uh, I'm very fond of and I really truly believe in the United Nations, but you won't find anybody else in my countryside or around here, I think, that does. (laughing) But anyway, I'm very world conscious.|[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7|Bob]]}}

Bob referred to himself as a {{w|Republican Party (United States)|Republican}}, and he did not vote for [[Barack Obama]] in {{w|United States presidential election, 2008|the 2008 presidential election}}.<ref name="Prank calls"/> That said, he had misgivings about {{w|Bob McDonnell}}, the Republican candidate in the {{w|Virginia gubernatorial election, 2009|2009 Virginia gubernatorial election}} and the ultimate winner of the election, possibly because of McDonnell's support for very strict anti-abortion laws, which made no exceptions for cases of rape or [[Chris and sex#incest|incest]]. Bob and Chris considered writing in Snoopy from ''[[Peanuts]]'' as a protest vote.<ref>[[Regina e-mails#Wikipedia: The answer to everything]]</ref>

In a potentially damaging moment on 18 [[February 2009]], Bob doubted the existence of [[Molvanîa]], [[Julie]]'s country of origin.<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.5]]</ref> However, he continued talking on the grounds that his grasp of post-Soviet geography was shaky, and he apparently convinced himself that Molvanîa was the same place as the real country of Moldova, a former Soviet republic located near the Black Sea.<ref name="PSN 37">[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7]]</ref> However, he rather damningly failed to question why Julie spoke perfect English with an American accent.

Besides Korea, Bob also visited Australia and England at some point in his life.<ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#Retired life (0:16:59–0:24:22)]]</ref>

==Relationships==

===Previous family===

Bob was previously married to a woman named Patricia Harley on 25 September 1956 at a United Methodist church in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. They had two children, [[David Alan Chandler]] (b. 1962) and [[Carol Suzanne Chandler]] (b. 1969).

Bob and Patricia separated on 28 June 1976 before divorcing on 28 January 1980.<ref name="BobObit">https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/dailyprogress/name/robert-franklin-chandler-obituary?n=robert-franklin-chandler&pid=153539600</ref><ref>[[:File:1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.png]]</ref> Bob's relationships with David and Carol were strained in his later years.<ref name="Cole2">[[:Image:Cole 07-03-06-2.PNG|6 March 2007 email, page 2]]</ref> Chris did not know he had a niece, via David, named [[Savannah Chandler|Savannah]] until she was 8 years old<ref>[[CWC's Diary#January 2004]]</ref>, and Bob's relationship with Carol was even more strained. According to Chris, Bob was always concerned about Carol. None of the Chandlers knew what was going on with her, and last they heard she was working for the federal government, implying that she did not show up to her father's funeral.<ref>[[:File:Savannah_chandler3.png]]</ref> David, on the other hand, did attend his father's funeral.<ref>[[:File:Savannah_chandler.png]]</ref>

===Barbara===

[[Image:0063-BobAndBarbaraNewLife.jpg|thumb|With [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]]]]

Bob and [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] met in 1979 at "Maddy's Pub" in Richmond<ref>[[April 2012 Facebook posts#Fear of the future]]</ref> (probably Matt's British Pub in Shockoe Slip, where Bob was a sing-along leader in the late 1970s).<ref name=godbear>[[IT TOOK A TALKING BEAR TO GIVE THE NAME A YOUNG BOY LOVES]]</ref> Barbara was there with a friend and Bob was singing.<ref name="Mumble 3.5">[[Mumble 3.5]]</ref> According to Chris, Bob claims that Barbara did the [[How to Talk to Girls|pursuing]]: "She chased him down the hallway." Barb, however, disputes this.<ref>[[The 24th Wedding Anniversary Special#Part 2]]</ref> This is probably why Chris figured that he could get away with being passive in terms of courtship. In contrast, [[Cole Smithey|Cole]]'s friend Chuck McGuigan, who worked at the pub as a bartender, has a vivid memory of them "acting out as a couple of drunken losers".<ref name="Cole2" />

They got married in 1980,<ref name="Mumble 3.5" /> only months after Bob and Patricia had divorced.<ref>[[:File:1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.jpeg]]</ref> Barb later told Chris that she only married Bob because "he owned [[14 Branchland Court|a house]]."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022]]</ref>

According to Chris, Barbara did not have sex with Bob for at least two decades before his passing. They had been sleeping in separate rooms in the years leading up to his death.<ref>[[IRC (27 December 2008)]]</ref>

===Cole===
Bob married Barbara when her son [[Cole Smithey|Cole]] was nearly 17, around the time Cole left to lead his own life.

Cole feels that Bob's bitterness worked to separate his relationship with his mother. Cole said he would celebrate<ref name="Cole2"/> "when that fuck Bob finally drops",<ref>[[:Image:Cole 07-07-24-3.PNG|Email from Cole to Chris]]</ref> but it is unknown if he did so. Cole said that he and Bob shared a mutual hatred,<ref name="Cole2" /> though there isn't any proof that Bob hated Cole. In the least, it is certain that Bob knew Cole didn't like him.<ref name="Raising"/>

===Chris===

{{see also|Bob's Letters to Chris}}

{{quote|Get away from the Internet! I'm cutting it down, right now.|Bob Chandler, Internet lumberjack.}}

[[File:Dreaming studio.png|thumb|Dreaming studio of Mr. C and Little C. Where dreams do come true - 1989.]]

When Chris was a boy, Bob encouraged him to learn more about the world and tried sharing his interests and hobbies, including engineering, geography and [[Stamps|stamp collecting]].

When Chris was seven, Bob converted a shed in the backyard of [[14 Branchland Court]] to a workshop where he and Chris could build things together, dubbing it the "dreaming studio". Chris could not recall what they had built together when asked about it in the years following Bob's death;<ref>[[IRL Tour of 14 Branchland Court]]</ref> he and Barb had been using the space for hoard storage.

Bob wished that Chris was more interested in the world. He tried to teach Chris about foreign geography such as [[Julie|Europe]] and [[PandaHalo|Australia]], but he thought (correctly) that Chris doesn't understand countries and continents beyond what he's seen on [[television]], and only can associate with the places he's physically been to in Virginia.<ref name="PSN 37" />

Bob enjoyed collecting stamps as a boy growing up in the 1930s, and he continued to do so for several decades, with a focus on the United Nations and foreign countries,<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7]]</ref> building a collection of stamp albums which filled six boxes.<ref>[[I'm selling my father's stamp collection; come on down and buy some of it]]</ref> He taught Chris about his hobby, buying him a beginner's stamp album in 1992.<ref>[[eBay#Chris's stamp album]]</ref> Chris seemed to enjoy the hobby as well, since he had many pages of stamps filled in. In [[Bob's Letters to Chris|written letters]] to Chris (written when Chris was a few years old), Bob gave Chris permission to pass along his various collections onto others after inheriting them. In 2017, Chris began selling pieces of the inherited stamp collection. He priced Bob's pieces at decent prices, generally for $5 per set, though tried to sell his own personal stamp album for $1,000.<ref>[[eBay]] - see listings for their stamp collections.</ref>

Bob's racist joke that [[Barack Obama]] would paint the White House black as soon as he became president influenced Chris to draw it in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]].

Chris's phobia of [[Pickle|penises]] was apparently sparked from barging into his parents' room, where Bob had a habit of sleeping nude from the waist down.<ref>[[February 2020 social media posts#On seeing his father's penis]]</ref>

Chris has often complained about stressful confrontations with his father:

{{quote|well, my father is a major stressor against me; starts arguements, annoys me, [[Chris and health#hygiene|rarely washes his hands after restroom breaks]] (lord knows I've tried to encourage him to wash numerous time, and rarely succeeded).|Chris, [[IRC (31 December 2008)]]}}

However, the many instances of Bob communicating with trolls show that he was generally pleasant and amicable, not at all inclined to start arguments, as Chris asserts. As seen during the lead up to the fateful encounter between [[Emily]], Chris and the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]], Bob seemed to be more than happy to discuss stories with people, even those he hadn't seen or heard that much of - [[Robert Simmons V]], who met Bob during his [[Church audio|visit to Chris's church]] conversed with him extensively, later saying that he was a 'really pleasant guy'. The antagonism to which Chris refers is likelier to be Bob attempting to constructively criticize Chris in order to better him, as Chris deeply resents being told what he does not want to hear.
[[File:Bob drawing Nov. '15.jpg|thumb|200px|left|A drawing of Bob by Chris, released in [[November 2015]].]]

An example of this criticism was Bob telling Chris that, since Bob had looked after Chris for 29 years despite his childish and outrageous behavior, Chris should show more gratitude towards him. Chris was completely dismissive, figuring that his father was ''obligated'' to take care of him, and seeing no reason he should demonstrate any foreign concepts like "love", "support", "gratitude", and "willingness to help". Reinforcing Bob's point, Chris still ran for his father's aid when he felt threatened, as in the later parts of the [[Kacey and Liquid Call]].

Despite Bob's occasional frustration over Chris's actions, he seemed to have bought into the theory that Chris is tormented by a [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|complex network of enemies spanning the entire world]], due to the success that he has earned from his own Sonichu franchise.<ref name="Church">[[Church audio]]</ref><ref name="Noble">[[Matthew Noble call]]</ref> In the [[Matthew Noble call]], it appears that Bob seemed to be the origin of Chris's tendency to bring up unrelated mishaps and debacles to make current incidents and sources of [[stress]] seem "petty" in comparison.

[[Image:0106-ChristianWDad.jpg|thumb|Bob and a younger Christian. Note Chris's "Family Bonding" shirt.]]
Once during a phone call with a troll, Bob stated that Chris was [[Chris and anger|"a hell of a lot nicer"]] and "has done a lot better than" the troll calling him.<ref name="Prank">[[Prank_calls#Snake_Productions_Calls_Bob_Chandler]]</ref>

He seemed never to get past the notion that Chris could and had achieved things, given that he continued to have to nursemaid Chris well into his son's late 20s. In the later parts of 2009 and throughout 2010, as chronicled in Chris's e-mails with [[Vivian Gee E-mails, 2009|Vivian Gee]] and [[Jackie E-mails 7|Jackie]], Bob had been forced to take an increasingly active role in controlling Chris's spending and debt, paying off Chris's credit cards with his own money in an attempt to prevent interest charges from spiraling even further out of control. By the fall of 2010, he was monitoring Chris's bank accounts on a daily basis and keeping him on a strict allowance. Upon finding out about Chris's [[Tomgirl Pictures|escapades]] in early 2011, Bob's reaction was to question Chris's sexuality, at one point even calling him a fag.

Chris has said specifically that he doesn't have to love his father, but has to respect him.<ref>[[Mumble 1#Transcript|Mumble Chat 1]]</ref> Confidential details collected after Bob's death, however, suggests Chris was more emotionally attached than he let on, providing rare and precious evidence that Chris doesn't take the presence of others for granted. He also got genuinely emotional while reading a letter that his father had left for him on-camera, again indicating how much he misses his father.<ref>[[CLog 09042017 - Mister C]]</ref>

In [[December 2012]], Chris uploaded the soundtrack from the [[WTJU Marathon|1990 WTJU Jazz Marathon]], in which Bob was a performer and a host. It was notable as one of the few moments where Chris publicly honored his father's memory since the latter's passing in [[September 2011]].

Bob lives on his son's memory. Chris noted the occasion of his father's passing by attaching angel wings to the [[Lego]] minifigure representing him,<ref>Seen at 4:24 in [[CWC Lego Manchester High School Oct 18 2013]]</ref> and displaying two photos of him in front of his TV.<ref>[[:File:Totem2ebay.jpeg]]</ref> He often visits Bob in his [[dreams]].<ref>[[March 2012 Facebook Posts#Still Feeling Lonely II|March 2012 Facebook Posts]]</ref><ref>[[List of OkCupid Answers#2014 Answers--LevelUpKing|OkCupid Answers]]</ref>

Due to the influence of the [[Idea Guys]], Chris expressed beliefs that Bob is half-Sonichu and is apparently still alive in the [[CWCville]] dimension. These beliefs began around December 2017 and continued even after the Idea Guys had been removed from power, as shown by the below quote from 2018's Father's Day.

{{quotebox|[[File:Father's Day 2018.jpg|200px|thumb]]

<nowiki>#HappyFathersDay</nowiki> to each and every Father in This World and in Every Single Other Dimension Too! My father is alive again! I still love him, even in his checker-patterned glory! ⚡️💙❤️⚡️<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20191211070743/https://twitter.com/cwcsonichu/status/1008449921387778048</ref>}}

===Other relationships===
In spite of his redneck background, Bob seems to have gotten along better with foreigners than with his own countrymen. His closest friend in Richmond was Reverend Chen of Korean Canaan Presbyterian Church,<ref>Emily Date Conversation Transcript</ref> and he had English friends through his involvement with Matt's British Pub.<ref name=godbear></ref> He also had friends in Australia.<ref>BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7</ref>

From his father's second marriage, Bob had "a large number of half-brothers and sisters in... [[wikipedia:Winston-Salem, North Carolina|Salem, North Carolina]]",<ref>[[Bob's Letters to Chris]]</ref> but he does not seem to have been very close with them. Bob's stepmother's obituary confirms that eight of these half-siblings were alive as of 2015.<ref>https://www.hufffuneralhome.com/obituary/Dorothy-Chandler</ref>

[[Prank calls#Call Bobby Chandler|Contrary to popular beliefs]], he did not have friends in the Ku Klux Klan.

==Later life, poor health and death==
[[File:Bob playbill for musical push cart.jpg|thumb|200px|Playbill for Mr. C. and his musical pushcart.]]

Bob lived on social security and his General Electric pension.<ref name="Raising">[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#Raising Chris-Chan (16:46 - 00:00)]]</ref> He never really had people to chat with at home (he would ramble to [[Trolls|total strangers]] on the phone if he could), so he sat around, listened to music, and took care of the garden inside the greenhouse.<ref name="PSN 37" /> With a 1970s stereo system set up in the greenhouse, he went to "swing with the music" on his swing there.<ref name="Raising" />

Bob had two triple bypasses and four heart attacks. The two triple-bypass operations took place first in August 1980 and at last in 1992. He had {{w|Coronary artery disease}} and wore an {{w|Artificial cardiac pacemaker|artificial pacemaker}}.<ref>[[Autism papers#FAMILY_HISTORY:]]</ref><ref>[[Mumble 3]]</ref> He apparently had several vivid near-death experiences: during [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#Bob's health problems (0:24:23–0:25:29)|Chris's date with]] [[Emily]], Bob tells her that he has "died" several times, and Chris says that Bob "has seen the light, but did not actually go to it." In one prank call, Bob revealed that after surgery for cancer it was discovered that he had a fluid build-up in his legs, which is symptomatic of CHF. This rapid decline in health worried him.<ref name="Prank calls"/> He attributed his long life to the [[Cherokee]] in him. His uncles and grandfather all lived past 90.<ref name="PSN 37" /> Despite his heart troubles he continued to eat at [[Burger King]] daily.<ref>[[Prank calls#Calls to Bob and Chris]]</ref><ref>[[Trollin Train#Hey, guys (Sun 22 Aug 2010)]]</ref>

On 1 [[March 2010]], Chris [[Twitter|tweeted]] that Bob had been taken to the hospital in the early morning for "congested [''sic''] {{w|heart failure}}". Chris seemed confident that his father was not in for a long stay. Considering Bob's age, lifestyle, and long history of heart disease, [[Chris and death|Chris did not seem to grasp the seriousness of his heart failure]]. Bob had been the only thing keeping [[14 Branchland Court|the Chandler household]] from imploding, and as such, trolls and white knights alike wished him the very best.

[[Image:Bobbed.jpg|thumb|Apart from the dying heart]]

In the month following Bob's hospitalization, Chris was remarkably quiet on the subject of his father. News about his condition was hard to come by, as information only arose [[Chris and his Ego|when Chris was inclined to complain about it online]]. Statistically, congestive heart failure is not as immediately fatal as its name implies,<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201210121845/https://www.healthline.com/health/chf-life-expectancy]</ref> but Bob's age, prior heart attacks and [[Tour of Chris's House|lifestyle]] made this a very serious situation.

Chris's videos over the month of March made no mention of Bob at all. Staying true to his painfully predictable nature, Chris instead lost a [[The Wallflower|girlfriend he never had]], [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|made racial slurs and death threats towards a cartoon character]], and [[F Abstinance|raged against abstinence]]. His silence on the subject of his father was probably because of [[Naïve|genuine ignorance]] of the seriousness of his father's condition.

A poster on [[/cwc/]] contacted Chris via PSN regarding Bob. He posted a screen capture of Chris's response, saying, "He is doing much better, thank you."<ref>[[:File:Bobbetter.jpg]]</ref> Another contacted Chris via email and got a response saying, "Yes, my father is healthy and safe." Clearly he was neither, but this was at least proof that Bob hadn't joined the Whites-Only section of Heaven just yet. In late May, Chris finally made [[Some Favored Comedians|a brief mention]] in a public video that his father was "alive and well". Chris was, at least, half right.

A breakdown of Bob's final months reads as follows.

On 24 March 2011, Bob claimed in a phone call to have cancer of some description.<ref>http://youtu.be/y-GGSOyCm2k</ref>

On 23 April 2011, in an e-mail to Jackie, Chris revealed that Bob had received surgery for colon cancer.<ref>[[Jackie_E-mails_24]]</ref>

On 20 July 2011, it was revealed that [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia#Re: Coming out to my parents|Bob knew about Chris's cross-dressing tendencies]] and, like Barb, vehemently disapproved of them.

On 29 August 2011, Chris, now deeply entrenched in his [[Tomgirl Saga|tomgirlish ways]], [[Response to ADF|mentioned that Bob was an ill and sickly shut-in]], and was suffering from [[Chris and English|"feet-bloatings"]].

In early September 2011, Bob was rushed by ambulance to Martha Jefferson hospital with heart failure. [[Rocky Shoemaker call|It was discovered later]] that Bob had been put into quarantine when he arrived because his body was [[14 Branchland Court|covered in bug bites]] and he posed a contamination risk. On the sixth of that month, he died at age 84.<ref name="BobObit"></ref> Out of respect for him and his family, the CWCki was closed for a week, 12–19 September, with the start date coinciding with the day Bob's funeral service was held. Site visitors were directed to a page which simply read "Robert Franklin Chandler Jr. 1927–2011".<ref name="BobObit" />

It is said that [[Man in the Pickle Suit|Marvin]] and other trolls, using the [[Jackie]] identity as a catfish, attempted to contact Chris over the phone shortly after Bob's death for unclear reasons; Chris was noted to be audibly upset as he cried throughout the conversation. While the audio was recorded and archived on what is referred to as the "Black Tape" by some Christorians, the contents of the call were never released publicly due to Chris's miserable emotional state. The trolls who participated in the call realized after the fact that it was simply too soon to try to reach out to Chris in this fashion and, for a change, opted to respect his privacy for once. The Black Tape either still exists in the hands of the trolls who participated in its creation, or it has been lost to time.<ref>[[CWCki Forums posts (Marvin)#The Black Tape]]</ref>

Bob's death also marked another significant change in Chris's life, as the vast majority of the trolls associated with the [[Christorical eras|"Classic Era"]] voluntarily retired from trolling Chris, knowing that he was deeply depressed by his father's demise. Only a few of these trolls still remain active as observers on [[Kiwi Farms]], and a trolling renaissance did not begin until much later in the decade with the advent of the [[Idea Guys]].

==Cause of death==
Despite the fairly clear-cut nature of the lumberjack's passing, Chris has since declared that the [[trolls]] were responsible for Bob's death. In an [[Misc_E-mails|email]] leaked on 22 [[March 2014]], Chris claims that the stress of his trolling led to Bob's heart attack. This keeps in the trend Chris has developed of blaming any and all misfortunes (even those faced by everyone, like burying a family member) on trolls.

{{quote|AND the total [[stress]] KILLED my Father Prematurely; if not for those Trolls, he would still be alive, and would have likely lived beyond 2015.|Chris.}}

Even for Chris this is appalling behavior; using the '''death of his own father''' as a vehicle to play the victim and attempt to stave off trolls. While it's not uncommon for those who have lost loved ones to blame their deaths on external causes (however impossible or insane, as in this case) Chris's actions are motivated purely out of selfishness and egotism – business as usual.

Years later, in 2017, Chris revised his claim and said that Bob was killed after hospital staff surprised him with a "Loud Noise". He went on to say that he had more freedom when Bob was alive.

{{quote|I wish I could go back to September 5, 2011 and stop the staff from making the Loud Noise that killed my father with stressful surprise. I had more freedom when he was alive.|Chris<ref name=LoudNoise></ref>}}

==Obituary==
Both [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] and Chris collaborated in writing Bob's obituary, which was published in two local papers. Main points of the obituary, apart from the standard birth date, date of death, and next of kin, include:

* Text going into [[autism|unusual detail]] about what Bob did at General Electric.
* The location of the memorial service, "to follow on a later date", at [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church]], the church that Barb, Bob and Chris used to frequent together. This is the same church that [[Rocky Shoemaker]] counseled Chris from.
* A footnote asking readers to not donate flowers, but to [[Chris and money|donate money to Barbara and Chris]].

With Chris taking part in writing the obituary, it's amazing that the writing stayed focus on Bob and did not once mention Sonichu or become about Chris (except for the request for money at the end).

===Original text===
[[Image:Rip internet lumberack by vekke.png|thumb|May you always watch over our sweet autist.]]
:''Robert Franklin Chandler Jr., 84, of Ruckersville, passed away the morning of Tuesday, September 6, 2011, at Martha Jefferson Hospital ICU surrounded by family, pastor and hospital staff.''

:''He was born on September 4, 1927, in Texas, the son of the late Robert Franklin Chandler Sr. and Jean Holloman Chandler. On June 7, 1980, he married Barbara Anne Weston, who survives. And the couple gave birth to a son, Christian Weston Chandler, who survives. Also surviving is ex-wife, Patricia, and their shared children, son, Dr. David Alan Chandler, survives, and daughter, Carol Suzanne Chandler, survives.''

:''He graduated from Auburn University with a degree in Engineering.''

:''He served in the United States Army Seoul Korea in the Signal Corp during the Korean War. He worked for General Electric as an Engineer with Steels, Plastics, etc. He also had patents for the controls for Plastic Molding Machines; without him, we would not have even a simple plastic funnel.''

:''Also surviving are granddaughter, Savannah Chandler, the daughter of David Alan Chandler and his wife, Kimberly.''

:''A funeral service will be held at Monticello Memory Gardens in Charlottesville, Virginia, 10 a.m. Monday, September 12, 2011. A memorial service to follow on a later date at Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church.''

:''Instead of flowers, you may make monetary donations to his widow, Barbara Chandler and son, Christian Chandler.<ref name="BobObit" />

==In memoriam==
[[File:Chandler_Niche.jpg|thumb|left|Bob's final resting place.]]

Bob is often seen as a gregarious, hard-working man ([[Ruckersville, VA|all things considered]]) who tried ([[Destruction Of Chris's House|albeit without]] [[26 December 2014|success]]) his best to refine Chris into someone that could at least pass for a responsible adult, giving him mock job interviews and [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript|chaperoning him on dates]], where he proved (unsurprisingly) more adept at charming the date than Chris.

On the other hand, we have him to thank for some of his son's more [[Homos|backward]] [[Niggos|worldviews]]. He managed to alienate his other children enough that [[Carol Chandler|his daughter]] didn't attend his funeral or keep in touch while he was alive. He helped Chris to construct [[Matthew Noble call|bizarre]] [[Greene County Conspiracy|conspiracy theories]] to justify [[Chris and the law|trespassing and the like]], among [[Chris and his ego|other things]]. He, like Barbara, enabled Chris's crippling dependence on them, general immaturity and irresponsibility, and his myriad of other flaws. He bailed out his son repeatedly and never really let Chris experience the [[Financhu Crisis|consequences]] of his misinformed [[Chris and money|life decisions]]. He never made any serious effort to correct his son's glaring character flaws and shortcomings, even when he caught him [[Bob Walks In|masturbating]] in the kitchen. He also did not make any real attempt to provide for Chris' future, beyond ensuring the tugboat. He left all his money to Barbara, who promptly wasted it all on [[Rob Bell|lawyer's fees]] – a conscientious parent would have anticipated this and put some of the money in a trust for Chris.

Ultimately, Bob's legacy is a complicated one. While some like to remember Bob as a kind-hearted man who tried his best to be a good father, others see him as an old backward-thinking coot who is partially responsible for the person Chris is today.

{{clear}}

==Chris's beliefs on Bob's afterlife==
===Idea Guy influences===
{{quote|Robert Franklin Chandler Jr's and Ted Bundy's souls never went to Heaven or Hell; They both became reborn ''[...]'' as their respective Sonichu forms. ''[...]'' Mister C. and Ted also serve to help the nation of CWCville in defense, and in intellect.|[[Sonichu 16|''Sonichu'' #16]], page 49}}

[[File:Bobchu.jpeg|thumb|150px|Bob's Sonichu form.]]
[[File:Bob meets Ted Bundy, Sonichu 16.JPG|Bob meets Ted Bundy in the hereafter.|thumb|150px]]

During the [[Idea Guys]] saga, Chris's belief in multiple dimensions was exploited and his sense of reality hijacked to make changes to many of Chris's characters, concepts and perspectives of the real world, with him considering them to be valid. Perhaps one of the more heinous examples of this was the Idea Guys' manipulation of Chris's views on his own father; views which Chris has yet to abandon, despite the Idea Guys being removed from power by the [[Guard Dogs]] in mid-2018. Ideas involving Bob include:

*Bob's spirit resides in CWCville, dimension [[C-197]], as a half-Sonichu named Robertchu, styled in his Sonichu form as a beaver with checkerboard fur<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20201210122024/https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1008449921387778048</ref><ref>The drawing of Robertchu was among those drawn for Idea Guy, and no references to it exist beforehand.</ref> (a reference to his troll-given Internet Lumberjack nickname).

*Bob met serial killer Ted Bundy while in CWCville and helps defend it alongside Ted.<ref>[[Sonichu 13|''Sonichu'' #13]]</ref>

[[File:RobertchuBackHome.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Robertchu as a [[Shipfic]] card.]]

Post-Idea Guys, Chris decided that Robertchu's fur color was really red with black ears because he found it too time-consuming to draw the checkerboard pattern.<ref>[[June 2019 social media posts#Father's Day memorial]]</ref>

Robertchu was featured as cards in Chris's homemade [[Shipfic]] expansion. In one, Chris photoshopped a photo of [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] so that she is standing beside a drawing of Robertchu in his Sonichu form. The card text reads, "Honey, I'm Home" and states:

{{quotebox|Every once in a while, Mister C runs back home to offer comfort to Barbara. Before the Dimension Merge's completion, she has missed him everyday, and found the solace and comfort when he comes by. He continues to carry a torch for her in his heart and soul while he helps to protect everyone in Cwcville and at this old temple of a house.}}

{{clear}}

==Appearances==

===In ''Sonichu''===
{{quote|Christian, you are not a girl! Go put your pants back on.|Bob, ''Sonichu'' #12}}

[[File:Chandlers & Sonichus.jpg|200px|thumb]]

In [[Sonichu 8#Spring Break, 2008!|"Spring Break, 2008"]], a radio announcement from [[Jamsta Sonichu]] mentions that Bob founded [[CWCville]] in 1982, presumably after Chris's birth on [[Chris's birthday|24 February]] given that Bob named the city after his newborn son. Comic Bob presumably served as mayor before Chris took the office at an unknown date. At other points, Bob was mentioned in Chris's tangents about hating men other than himself and his father.

{{Mayors of CWCville}}

In [[Sonichu_9#Episode_19|"Date Ed"]], there are two dolls for the class to practice talking to, girls received "Robert" dolls, while boys received "Barbara" dolls, an obvious reference/homage to Bob and Barb.

Bob made his first official appearance in [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]], photoshopped into a "family photo" alongside Chris, Barb and various [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]].

[[File:Borb, Sonichu12.jpg|200px|thumb|left]]

[[File:Bob,Sonichu12.jpg|200px|thumb|right]]

In [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]], Bob appears in a set of pages that combine an autobiographical account of Chris coming out as a [[tomgirl]] to his parents, and a tribute to his late father. He is depicted as an elderly man, as the page took place in 2010 (due to Chris's Oedipal complex, Barb is depicted as much more youthful). He attempts to dissuade Chris from continuing his tomgirl lifestyle, although Chris states that Bob later "told me he accepts and love [sic] me for who I am" shortly before his passing in 2011.

Chris concludes Bob's appearance in the book with a photo in memoriam of his life, saying that he and Barb continue to miss him every day.

[[File:Chandler family as ponies.png|200px|thumb|left|Bob, pictured at right, as ''Gallop Crush'', in a [[MLP]]-inspired drawing from [[August 2017]].]]

In August 2017, Chris unveiled a drawing of the Chandler family depicted as [[My Little Pony]] characters, saying that they will make further appearances in [[Sonichu 12-9|''Sonichu'' #12-9]]. The ponified Bob, known as "Gallop Crush", appears as [[Night Star]]'s father, reaffirming the self-insert nature of Chris's ponysona.

In the [[Idea Guys]]-written [[Sonichu 16|''Sonichu'' #16]], Bob's spirit crosses over into CWCville where he meets and strikes up a conversation with serial killer Ted Bundy.

===As a toy===

<center><gallery>
File:BobAmiibo.jpg|[[Amiibo]] Bob, which Chris offered for sale on [[Etsy]] in [[November 2015]]. Oh yes.
File:ChrisFamilyEtsyC.jpg|Promo drawing
</gallery></center>

===Audio and video===

In every appearance, Bob has proven himself to be better at charming Chris's [[sweetheart]]s than Chris himself (not a difficult feat, to be fair).

* [[1990]]: Bob appeared as the DJ to the [[WTJU Marathon]].
* 26 February [[1994]]: Bob appears briefly behind Chris from 0:26-0:36 in the news report of the [[Chris in the media|Sonic Watch & Win Sweepstakes]].
* 14 [[February 2009]]: [[Bob Walks In]] to Chris [[mass debating]].
* 18 [[February 2009]]: In [[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.5]] and [[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7|3.7]], Bob rambles to [[Julie]].
* 15 [[March 2009]]: Bob [[Church audio|talked]] to [[Robert Simmons V]] at [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|church]] while [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|Chris went to shit himself]].
* [[March 2009]]: Bob chaperoned Chris on his date with [[Emily]].
* 27 [[March 2009]]: Bob gets intruded by Chris in the [[Tour of Christian's House]], but is not visible.
* 27 [[August 2009]]: [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|Bob enters Chris's room]] and scolds him for making the house tour, (correctly) fearing that if someone saw the house as it was, they would be evicted (Uncut version only). This is a momentous occasion, showing some awareness on the part of the Chandlers that the filth and squalor they live in is a health hazard. This video subsequently off a wave of emails and calls to the Greene County Health Department, masterminded by trolls who hoped to realize Bob's fear of eviction, but the campaign was seemingly unsuccessful.
* [[November 2009]]: Bob and [[Barb|Snorlax]] make a brief appearance at the end of the [[Kacey and Liquid Call]].
* 15 [[August 2010]]: In his final outing on the damn Internet, Bob gets a [[Matthew Noble call|call from the GAMe PLACe]] and is informed of Chris's actions earlier in the year. He then goes on a tangent about how Chris has been tormented by everyone ever since he was banned, and then demands Michael Snyder's information. Barbara also is audible at the end of the call.
* [[Prank calls]]: Bob answered several of these. He was usually sincere when talking with prank callers, providing them with true and honest information about himself and Chris, but was occasionally pushed to trolling them back, on one occasion telling a particularly obnoxious pair of trolls that he had ties to the Ku Klux Klan.

==Gallery==
<center>
<gallery>
File:Bob1946Auburn.jpg|Bob's Auburn freshman yearbook photo, taken for the 1946 yearbook.
File:BobJax1950.PNG|Bob's 1950 Jacksonville State Teachers College sophomore yearbook photo.
File:Bobauburn1951.PNG|Bob's 1951 Auburn junior yearbook photo.
File:Bobauburn1952.PNG|Bob's Auburn senior yearbook photo.
File:WW2BobChandler(badquality).jpg|Bob's 1946 U.S. Army draftee.
File:BobPatMarriage.png|Bob and Patricia's newspaper engagement.
File:1956 9 25 - Bob, Patricia marriage license.png|1956 9 25 - Bob, Patricia marriage license.
File:1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.png|1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.
File:1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.jpeg|1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.
File:Bob and his parents - 1930s census.png|Bob and his parents - 1930s census.
File:Bob and his parents - 1940s census.png|Bob and his parents - 1940s census.
File:Bob1950Census.jpg|Bob in the Jacksonville State Teachers University's dormitory room - 1950s census.
File:Bob's birth certificate.png|Bob's birth certificate.
File:Chris's family tree up to his great great grandparents.png|Chris's family tree up to his great-great-grandparents.
Image:Thehell.jpg|
Image:0009-ChristopherChristmas2.jpg|Christmas at the Chandlers, taken sometime during the 1980s.
Image:0011-ChristopherBobXmas.jpg|That isn't Chris's half-senile old grandfather at [[Christmas]] time. It's Bob. He was that age when Chris was about one.
Image:0014-YoungerFather.jpg
Image:0032-BobAtRestraunt.jpg|
File:1993family.png|Barb, Chris and Bob in [[1993]]
Image:0038-AuntCorinaAndDad.jpg|Bob with [[Aunt Corrina]].
Image:0062-NewChristian&Dad.jpg|
Image:0120-BobbyBehindBars.jpg|
Image:0230-ChristianAndDadInClass.jpg|
File:Bob1997article1.png|Bob's short brief article from Richmond Times-Dispatch in July 1997.
File:Bob1997article2.png|Bob's short brief article from Richmond Times-Dispatch in August 1997.
Image:0626-BobbyInGarden.jpg|Bob used to enjoy gardening back in the day.
Image:CreepyBobAndChris.JPG|
Image:Bob_80th.jpg
File:Robert Chandler, 19 June 2016 Facebook post photo.jpg|Last known photo.
</gallery>
</center>

==Fan tributes==
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* [https://web.archive.org/web/20201210122203/https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/141038783/robert-franklin-chandler Bob Chandler at Find a Grave]

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{{quote|It was an interesting life I had.|Bob, at peace.}}

{{quote|I had more freedom when he was alive.|Chris, reflecting on his life prior to his father's death.<ref name=LoudNoise>[[February 2017 Facebook Posts#Claiming hospital staff killed Bob]]</ref>}}

{{quote|I don't believe he ever, Mr. C, any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks.|Chris, honoring Bob's memory by claiming that [[Affair with Mother|he was better at fucking]] [[Barbara Chandler|the man's wife]] [[Chris and his ego|than he ever was]].<ref>[[Incest Call]]</ref>}}

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| name = Robert Franklin Chandler Jr.
| image = Chrischansdad.jpg
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|name = Robert Franklin Chandler Jr.
|aliases = Bob Bobby Mr. C [[Bob Walks In|Internet Lumberjack]] [[:File:Chandler family as ponies.png|Gallop Crush]] Robertchu<ref>[[List of beliefs brainwashed into Chris#Sonichu genealogy for Chris, Bob and Ted Bundy]]</ref>
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|month = 9
|year = 1927
|deathday = 6
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|deathyear = 2011
|gender = Male
|nationality = [[United States|American]]
|race = White [[Count Dankula|Half-Sonichu]]<ref>Planted by [[Idea Guys#Lingering influence|Idea Guy]], mentioned in [[Count Dankula]] interview</ref>
|religion = Protestant (Methodist)
|spouse = Patricia Faye Harley (1956–1980) [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara Ann Weston]] (1980–2011)
|children = Dr. David Alan Chandler Carol Suzanne Chandler [[Christian Weston Chandler]] [[Cole Smithey]] (stepson)
|grandchildren = [[Savannah Chandler]]
|father = Robert Franklin Chandler Sr. (1906–1977)
|mother = Jean Holloman (1906–1945)
|education = [[wikipedia:Auburn_University|Auburn University]] ([[wikipedia:Bachelor of Electrical Engineering|BEE]]) [[wikipedia:Jacksonville_State_University|Jacksonville State University]] (did not graduate)
|occupation = Military communications Engineer Inventor
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'''Robert "Bob" Franklin Chandler Jr.'''<ref>[[Blanca E-mails#Chris likes Blanca|Email to Blanca]]</ref> (4 September [[Pre-1980#1920s|1927]] – 6 September [[2011]]<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20180110224343/http://www.harveypowers.com/wynn/wynn/d155.html</ref>) was the father of [[Christian Weston Chandler]], [[Carol Chandler]] and [[David Alan Chandler]], the stepfather of [[Cole Smithey]], and husband of [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara Weston Chandler]]. Bob became a firm favorite with [[trolls]] due to Chris's antipathy towards him and for his infamous cameo when he [[Bob Walks In|walked in]] on Chris [[mass debating]].<ref>[[Bob Walks In]]</ref> His nickname, "The [[Chris and the Internet|Internet]] Lumberjack", came from this incident, when he promised to cut the internet down.

Despite being estranged from his other children and despised by his stepson for abusive behavior, Bob was widely viewed as a better parent than his wife [[Barbara]] by Christorians, and – as far as Chris's own testimony can be trusted – he treated Chris better than any of his previous children. Bob had serious difficulties working with Chris's [[autism]], a disorder that he and his wife did not fully understand, but nonetheless, he had high hopes for his child in spite of the difficulties that he faced. Bob hoped to instill Chris with a variety of interests that reflected his own varied tastes, and he created The Dreaming Studio in their backyard in the hopes that they'd create things there (though, sadly, nothing of note was created there).

Because of this, Bob's popularity stems from being somewhat concerned with Chris's foolish behavior, and the fact that he occasionally tried to encourage a modicum of responsibility in Chris's sorry life, bringing up the fact that he devoted 29 years to raising his son. Of course, Chris was almost entirely unaffected by Bob's efforts to better him, but unlike Barb he at least made the effort. That being said, he also encouraged Chris to ''not'' seek employment in favor of getting [[Monthly Tugboat|welfare]], even though Chris could still hold a part-time job and receive those benefits, so he's not entirely blameless for the sorry state that his son is in today, either. Not to mention that many of [[Homos|Chris's more backward]] [[Chris and race|social perspectives]] that he had in the "Classic Era" stem from his influence.

Bob was always eager to chat, and indeed much of the known information about Bob's life comes from conversations he had with trolls. (It seems that Chris's passion for [[Honest Content]] did not fall too far from that tree, although Bob at least had a filter that his son lacks.) Whether in person or over the phone Bob appeared to relish the opportunity to speak with just about anyone.

On 6 September 2011, Bob died of complications from heart failure at Martha Jefferson Hospital ICU, surrounded by his family, his pastor and hospital staff.<ref name="BobObitarchive">http://web.archive.org/web/20130211071324/http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dailyprogress/obituary.aspx?n=robert-franklin-chandler&pid=153539600 (archive from 11 Feb 2013)</ref> He was survived by his wife and son, who now had to become the man of the house occasionally raked in some income through commission work, though he has never looked for a serious career. Chris initially came to terms with his father's death in a conventional, healthy way, but eventually turned to a [[Chris and coping|coping]] mechanism where he genuinely believed that his father was alive in [[Dimensions|another dimension]] as a [[Sonichu (species)|Sonichu]] named Robertchu.

Years later in 2021, Chris repeatedly cuckolded his own father by having dubiously-consensual sex with his wife in an [[Affair with Mother|incest]]-based affair, with Chris bragging that he could get Barb off better than "Mr. C" ever could. Following this incident, both were separated from the house that he maintained, with Chris jailed, Barb temporarily hospitalized, and the Dreaming Studio left abandoned.

==Biography==
Bob was born in {{w|Fort Worth, Texas}} at 4:15 PM,<ref name="Prank calls">[[Prank calls]]</ref> and raised in {{w|Sylacauga, Alabama}}.<ref name="About">[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#About Bob (7:18 - 16:45)]]</ref> He was the only child of Robert Franklin Chandler Sr. (8 February 1906<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/103153414/robert-franklin-chandler ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328063730/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/H5S7-BZM archive])</ref> – 27 December 1977<ref>https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG5R-6M6 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328072547/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG5R-6M6 archive])</ref>), an Alabamian insurance agent, and Jean Holloman (28 March 1906<ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/5947049/jean-chandler ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328094240/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/H5S7-12M archive])</ref> – 10 May 1945<ref>https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JK33-QW8 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20160328092829/https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JK33-QW8 archive])</ref>), a Texan housewife.<ref>[[:File:Bob Chandler's birth certificate.jpg]]</ref> Bob has eight younger half-siblings on his father's side.<ref>https://www.hufffuneralhome.com/obituary/Dorothy-Chandler</ref> He also mentioned having a cousin and several [[Cherokee]] relatives in Oklahoma.<ref>[[Prank calls#Bob Calls Himself]]</ref><ref>[[Prank calls#A Redneck calls Bob Chandler]]</ref> However, a distant relative disputed his Cherokee heritage,<ref>[[Chandler Family Tree#Ancestry.com content]]</ref> and his son's [[Cherokian Clan#Reality|DNA test results]] in 2018 belied any American Indian descent. It is common for white Southerners to make dubious claims to Cherokee ancestry, for a variety of historical reasons.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201210120042/https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2015/10/cherokee-blood-why-do-so-many-americans-believe-they-have-cherokee-ancestry.html Slate article]</ref>

Bob has said that he was "interested in the world" around him since he was ten, and began collecting foreign [[stamps]] as a child in the [[1930s]]: his first stamp was of {{w|Michael I of Romania}}. He also developed an interest in foreign music, eventually collecting some 15,000–20,000 LPs from various genres and cultures.<ref name="PSN 37"/> About 100 or so survived the 2014 [[house fire]].<ref>[[Discord Q&A 4#Bob's record collection]]</ref>

Bob joined the [[wikipedia:Boy Scouts of America|Boy Scouts]], becoming an Eagle Scout and a Scoutmaster for over 20 years.<ref>[[Bob's Letters to Chris]]</ref>

According to Chris, Bob lost his [[virgin with rage|virginity]] at the age of 27, which would have been in 1954 or 1955.<ref>[[January 2012 Facebook Posts#February is coming up]]</ref>

===Service and education===

A 1942 yearbook from Sylacauga High School lists a "Bobby Chandler" in the freshman class and glee club, suggesting that he graduated from this school in spring 1945 before matriculating at {{w|Auburn University}} as an aeronautical engineering major that autumn.

[[File:Chris Korean War Graphic.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Bob served in Korea, and, thankfully for Chris, who believes that he was a sperm carried in one of his father's testicles during that time, he left before the Korean War broke out.]]

Bob apparently had knowledge that the Army desired,<ref>(Majoring in Aeronautical Engineering, Auburn University, Freshman p. 95 of the 1946 yearbook [https://web.archive.org/web/20170725175556/http://content.lib.auburn.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/gloms/id/4124/rec/14])</ref> was conscripted as a special draftee in 1946 and placed in the {{w|Signal Corps (United States Army)|Signal Corps}}. There, he learned how to install valve systems, switchboards, and telephones. After basic training and Signal School, Bob was sent to Korea for a year to install infrastructure with the American occupation force. Serving until 1948, he was entitled to the WWII Victory Medal: his service number was 44107856.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201210120633/https://aad.archives.gov/aad/record-detail.jsp?dt=893&mtch=11&tf=F&q=Chandler&bc=&sort=24996%2520desc&rpp=10&pg=4&rid=8565331&rlst=5136538%2C4652469%2C8564216%2C1000879%2C987835%2C4549799%2C991002%2C8565331%2C5188385%2C8565346]</ref> Figuring he'd get "swallowed up" at a big college, Bob picked a small college, {{w|Jacksonville State Teachers College}} (now Jacksonville State University), after leaving the military. He studied pre-engineering and joined the band there for two years before returning to Auburn University, where he studied electrical engineering and graduated in 1952 with a {{w|Bachelor of Electrical Engineering}} degree.<ref>(page 269 of the 1952 yearbook)[https://web.archive.org/web/20170725175342/http://content.lib.auburn.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/gloms/id/16173/rec/20] {{w|G.I. Bill}}.</ref><ref name="About" /> As an engineer, he never learned to spell properly.<ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#The Date Begins (4:47 - 7:17)]]</ref> While he was at Auburn, he was part of the band once again, the {{w|Wesley Foundation}}, a [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|United Methodist]] religious group,; and Phi Mu Alpha, a social frat dedicated to men who are interested in music.

===Career===
[[File:Bob 25th Anniversary at General Electric.jpg|thumb|200px|Article on Bob's 25th anniversary at General Electric.]]

Bob worked for {{w|Western Electric}} as an engineer for 40 years. There he designed a variety of electrical subsystems. During the 1950s, he lived in [[wikipedia:Winston-Salem, North Carolina|Winston-Salem, North Carolina]], where his father and half of his half-siblings were also living at for the rest of their life. He was then offered a job by [[wikipedia:General Electric|General Electric]] in [[wikipedia:Utica, New York|Utica, New York]]. Since New York is too cold (and Yankee) for Bob, he left after three years, returning back to Winston-Salem for a few years before transferring to [[wikipedia:Roanoke, Virginia|Roanoke]] in Southwest Virginia, where he discovered his love for the mountains. In 1975, he moved to [[Richmond]], where he worked until 1980, when he was transferred to [[Charlottesville]].<ref name="About" /> He worked with both Goodrich and Goodyear.<ref name="PSN 37" />

With General Electric, Bob was responsible for at least seven patents. [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] claimed, in an e-mail to [[Shigeru Miyamoto|Miyamoto]], that without Bob's influence in the computer world, the {{w|Nintendo Entertainment System|NES}} "might not have arrived so soon",<ref name="Barbara" /> ignoring the fact that the NES was designed and released in Japan in 1983, without influence from American electronics.

{{quote|Bob Chandler is one of the most creative engineers in the organization.|The General Manager at G.E.<ref>[[:File:Bob 25th Anniversary at General Electric.jpg]]</ref>}}

Examples of Bob's accomplishments include an automated steel mill for rolling steel for cars, a paper mill for the production of Kleenex, warehousing, railroads and tanker ships. He designed scooters, die casting machines, machines for producing plastic products<ref name="About" /> and a vehicle logging system.<ref>https://patents.google.com/patent/US3486009</ref> Both Chris and Barbara have bragged that Bob designed controls<ref>https://patents.google.com/patent/US3889849</ref> that were used in plastic water container molding machines.<ref name="About" /><ref name="Barbara">[[Miyamoto Saga#Barbara]]</ref>

Bob retired in 1987 at the age of 59 or 60.<ref>[[Bob's Letters to Chris#Open Letter - December 26th, 1987]]</ref> His relatively early retirement may have been provoked by health problems, as he writes in his December 1987 [[Bob's Letters to Chris|letter to Chris]] that "I know now that I, at best, haven't much time left to share myself with you".

Bob himself was proud of his "natural inclination for logic", although he was "inundated" by all his designs and whether he did well for the world. Would plastic water bottles lead to mankind's salvation or utter destruction? Only time would tell.<ref name="About" />

===World consciousness===
[[Image:0012-BobbyReading.jpg|thumb|Bob Chandler learning how to cut that Internet down.]]

{{quote|I have been very interested in the world since I was 10 years old, and that was 70 years ago and, the, uh, I'm very fond of and I really truly believe in the United Nations, but you won't find anybody else in my countryside or around here, I think, that does. (laughing) But anyway, I'm very world conscious.|[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7|Bob]]}}

Bob referred to himself as a {{w|Republican Party (United States)|Republican}}, and he did not vote for [[Barack Obama]] in {{w|United States presidential election, 2008|the 2008 presidential election}}.<ref name="Prank calls"/> That said, he had misgivings about {{w|Bob McDonnell}}, the Republican candidate in the {{w|Virginia gubernatorial election, 2009|2009 Virginia gubernatorial election}} and the ultimate winner of the election, possibly because of McDonnell's support for very strict anti-abortion laws, which made no exceptions for cases of rape or [[Chris and sex#incest|incest]]. Bob and Chris considered writing in Snoopy from ''[[Peanuts]]'' as a protest vote.<ref>[[Regina e-mails#Wikipedia: The answer to everything]]</ref>

In a potentially damaging moment on 18 [[February 2009]], Bob doubted the existence of [[Molvanîa]], [[Julie]]'s country of origin.<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.5]]</ref> However, he continued talking on the grounds that his grasp of post-Soviet geography was shaky, and he apparently convinced himself that Molvanîa was the same place as the real country of Moldova, a former Soviet republic located near the Black Sea.<ref name="PSN 37">[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7]]</ref> However, he rather damningly failed to question why Julie spoke perfect English with an American accent.

Besides Korea, Bob also visited Australia and England at some point in his life.<ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#Retired life (0:16:59–0:24:22)]]</ref>

==Relationships==

===Previous family===

Bob was previously married to a woman named Patricia Harley on 25 September 1956 at a United Methodist church in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. They had two children, [[David Alan Chandler]] (b. 1962) and [[Carol Suzanne Chandler]] (b. 1969).

Bob and Patricia separated on 28 June 1976 before divorcing on 28 January 1980.<ref name="BobObit">https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/dailyprogress/name/robert-franklin-chandler-obituary?n=robert-franklin-chandler&pid=153539600</ref><ref>[[:File:1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.png]]</ref> Bob's relationships with David and Carol were strained in his later years.<ref name="Cole2">[[:Image:Cole 07-03-06-2.PNG|6 March 2007 email, page 2]]</ref> Chris did not know he had a niece, via David, named [[Savannah Chandler|Savannah]] until she was 8 years old<ref>[[CWC's Diary#January 2004]]</ref>, and Bob's relationship with Carol was even more strained. According to Chris, Bob was always concerned about Carol. None of the Chandlers knew what was going on with her, and last they heard she was working for the federal government, implying that she did not show up to her father's funeral.<ref>[[:File:Savannah_chandler3.png]]</ref> David, on the other hand, did attend his father's funeral.<ref>[[:File:Savannah_chandler.png]]</ref>

===Barbara===

[[Image:0063-BobAndBarbaraNewLife.jpg|thumb|With [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]]]]

Bob and [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] met in 1979 at "Maddy's Pub" in Richmond<ref>[[April 2012 Facebook posts#Fear of the future]]</ref> (probably Matt's British Pub in Shockoe Slip, where Bob was a sing-along leader in the late 1970s).<ref name=godbear>[[IT TOOK A TALKING BEAR TO GIVE THE NAME A YOUNG BOY LOVES]]</ref> Barbara was there with a friend and Bob was singing.<ref name="Mumble 3.5">[[Mumble 3.5]]</ref> According to Chris, Bob claims that Barbara did the [[How to Talk to Girls|pursuing]]: "She chased him down the hallway." Barb, however, disputes this.<ref>[[The 24th Wedding Anniversary Special#Part 2]]</ref> This is probably why Chris figured that he could get away with being passive in terms of courtship. In contrast, [[Cole Smithey|Cole]]'s friend Chuck McGuigan, who worked at the pub as a bartender, has a vivid memory of them "acting out as a couple of drunken losers".<ref name="Cole2" />

They got married in 1980,<ref name="Mumble 3.5" /> only months after Bob and Patricia had divorced.<ref>[[:File:1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.jpeg]]</ref> Barb later told Chris that she only married Bob because "he owned [[14 Branchland Court|a house]]."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022]]</ref>

According to Chris, Barbara did not have sex with Bob for at least two decades before his passing. They had been sleeping in separate rooms in the years leading up to his death.<ref>[[IRC (27 December 2008)]]</ref>

===Cole===
Bob married Barbara when her son [[Cole Smithey|Cole]] was nearly 17, around the time Cole left to lead his own life.

Cole feels that Bob's bitterness worked to separate his relationship with his mother. Cole said he would celebrate<ref name="Cole2"/> "when that fuck Bob finally drops",<ref>[[:Image:Cole 07-07-24-3.PNG|Email from Cole to Chris]]</ref> but it is unknown if he did so. Cole said that he and Bob shared a mutual hatred,<ref name="Cole2" /> though there isn't any proof that Bob hated Cole. In the least, it is certain that Bob knew Cole didn't like him.<ref name="Raising"/>

===Chris===

{{see also|Bob's Letters to Chris}}

{{quote|Get away from the Internet! I'm cutting it down, right now.|Bob Chandler, Internet lumberjack.}}

[[File:Dreaming studio.png|thumb|Dreaming studio of Mr. C and Little C. Where dreams do come true - 1989.]]

When Chris was a boy, Bob encouraged him to learn more about the world and tried sharing his interests and hobbies, including engineering, geography and [[Stamps|stamp collecting]].

When Chris was seven, Bob converted a shed in the backyard of [[14 Branchland Court]] to a workshop where he and Chris could build things together, dubbing it the "dreaming studio". Chris could not recall what they had built together when asked about it in the years following Bob's death;<ref>[[IRL Tour of 14 Branchland Court]]</ref> he and Barb had been using the space for hoard storage.

Bob wished that Chris was more interested in the world. He tried to teach Chris about foreign geography such as [[Julie|Europe]] and [[PandaHalo|Australia]], but he thought (correctly) that Chris doesn't understand countries and continents beyond what he's seen on [[television]], and only can associate with the places he's physically been to in Virginia.<ref name="PSN 37" />

Bob enjoyed collecting stamps as a boy growing up in the 1930s, and he continued to do so for several decades, with a focus on the United Nations and foreign countries,<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7]]</ref> building a collection of stamp albums which filled six boxes.<ref>[[I'm selling my father's stamp collection; come on down and buy some of it]]</ref> He taught Chris about his hobby, buying him a beginner's stamp album in 1992.<ref>[[eBay#Chris's stamp album]]</ref> Chris seemed to enjoy the hobby as well, since he had many pages of stamps filled in. In [[Bob's Letters to Chris|written letters]] to Chris (written when Chris was a few years old), Bob gave Chris permission to pass along his various collections onto others after inheriting them. In 2017, Chris began selling pieces of the inherited stamp collection. He priced Bob's pieces at decent prices, generally for $5 per set, though tried to sell his own personal stamp album for $1,000.<ref>[[eBay]] - see listings for their stamp collections.</ref>

Bob's racist joke that [[Barack Obama]] would paint the White House black as soon as he became president influenced Chris to draw it in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]].

Chris's phobia of [[Pickle|penises]] was apparently sparked from barging into his parents' room, where Bob had a habit of sleeping nude from the waist down.<ref>[[February 2020 social media posts#On seeing his father's penis]]</ref>

Chris has often complained about stressful confrontations with his father:

{{quote|well, my father is a major stressor against me; starts arguements, annoys me, [[Chris and health#hygiene|rarely washes his hands after restroom breaks]] (lord knows I've tried to encourage him to wash numerous time, and rarely succeeded).|Chris, [[IRC (31 December 2008)]]}}

However, the many instances of Bob communicating with trolls show that he was generally pleasant and amicable, not at all inclined to start arguments, as Chris asserts. As seen during the lead up to the fateful encounter between [[Emily]], Chris and the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]], Bob seemed to be more than happy to discuss stories with people, even those he hadn't seen or heard that much of - [[Robert Simmons V]], who met Bob during his [[Church audio|visit to Chris's church]] conversed with him extensively, later saying that he was a 'really pleasant guy'. The antagonism to which Chris refers is likelier to be Bob attempting to constructively criticize Chris in order to better him, as Chris deeply resents being told what he does not want to hear.
[[File:Bob drawing Nov. '15.jpg|thumb|200px|left|A drawing of Bob by Chris, released in [[November 2015]].]]

An example of this criticism was Bob telling Chris that, since Bob had looked after Chris for 29 years despite his childish and outrageous behavior, Chris should show more gratitude towards him. Chris was completely dismissive, figuring that his father was ''obligated'' to take care of him, and seeing no reason he should demonstrate any foreign concepts like "love", "support", "gratitude", and "willingness to help". Reinforcing Bob's point, Chris still ran for his father's aid when he felt threatened, as in the later parts of the [[Kacey and Liquid Call]].

Despite Bob's occasional frustration over Chris's actions, he seemed to have bought into the theory that Chris is tormented by a [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|complex network of enemies spanning the entire world]], due to the success that he has earned from his own Sonichu franchise.<ref name="Church">[[Church audio]]</ref><ref name="Noble">[[Matthew Noble call]]</ref> In the [[Matthew Noble call]], it appears that Bob seemed to be the origin of Chris's tendency to bring up unrelated mishaps and debacles to make current incidents and sources of [[stress]] seem "petty" in comparison.

[[Image:0106-ChristianWDad.jpg|thumb|Bob and a younger Christian. Note Chris's "Family Bonding" shirt.]]
Once during a phone call with a troll, Bob stated that Chris was [[Chris and anger|"a hell of a lot nicer"]] and "has done a lot better than" the troll calling him.<ref name="Prank">[[Prank_calls#Snake_Productions_Calls_Bob_Chandler]]</ref>

He seemed never to get past the notion that Chris could and had achieved things, given that he continued to have to nursemaid Chris well into his son's late 20s. In the later parts of 2009 and throughout 2010, as chronicled in Chris's e-mails with [[Vivian Gee E-mails, 2009|Vivian Gee]] and [[Jackie E-mails 7|Jackie]], Bob had been forced to take an increasingly active role in controlling Chris's spending and debt, paying off Chris's credit cards with his own money in an attempt to prevent interest charges from spiraling even further out of control. By the fall of 2010, he was monitoring Chris's bank accounts on a daily basis and keeping him on a strict allowance. Upon finding out about Chris's [[Tomgirl Pictures|escapades]] in early 2011, Bob's reaction was to question Chris's sexuality, at one point even calling him a fag.

Chris has said specifically that he doesn't have to love his father, but has to respect him.<ref>[[Mumble 1#Transcript|Mumble Chat 1]]</ref> Confidential details collected after Bob's death, however, suggests Chris was more emotionally attached than he let on, providing rare and precious evidence that Chris doesn't take the presence of others for granted. He also got genuinely emotional while reading a letter that his father had left for him on-camera, again indicating how much he misses his father.<ref>[[CLog 09042017 - Mister C]]</ref>

In [[December 2012]], Chris uploaded the soundtrack from the [[WTJU Marathon|1990 WTJU Jazz Marathon]], in which Bob was a performer and a host. It was notable as one of the few moments where Chris publicly honored his father's memory since the latter's passing in [[September 2011]].

Bob lives on his son's memory. Chris noted the occasion of his father's passing by attaching angel wings to the [[Lego]] minifigure representing him,<ref>Seen at 4:24 in [[CWC Lego Manchester High School Oct 18 2013]]</ref> and displaying two photos of him in front of his TV.<ref>[[:File:Totem2ebay.jpeg]]</ref> He often visits Bob in his [[dreams]].<ref>[[March 2012 Facebook Posts#Still Feeling Lonely II|March 2012 Facebook Posts]]</ref><ref>[[List of OkCupid Answers#2014 Answers--LevelUpKing|OkCupid Answers]]</ref>

Due to the influence of the [[Idea Guys]], Chris expressed beliefs that Bob is half-Sonichu and is apparently still alive in the [[CWCville]] dimension. These beliefs began around December 2017 and continued even after the Idea Guys had been removed from power, as shown by the below quote from 2018's Father's Day.

{{quotebox|[[File:Father's Day 2018.jpg|200px|thumb]]

<nowiki>#HappyFathersDay</nowiki> to each and every Father in This World and in Every Single Other Dimension Too! My father is alive again! I still love him, even in his checker-patterned glory! ⚡️💙❤️⚡️<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20191211070743/https://twitter.com/cwcsonichu/status/1008449921387778048</ref>}}

===Other relationships===
In spite of his redneck background, Bob seems to have gotten along better with foreigners than with his own countrymen. His closest friend in Richmond was Reverend Chen of Korean Canaan Presbyterian Church,<ref>Emily Date Conversation Transcript</ref> and he had English friends through his involvement with Matt's British Pub.<ref name=godbear></ref> He also had friends in Australia.<ref>BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7</ref>

From his father's second marriage, Bob had "a large number of half-brothers and sisters in... [[wikipedia:Winston-Salem, North Carolina|Salem, North Carolina]]",<ref>[[Bob's Letters to Chris]]</ref> but he does not seem to have been very close with them. Bob's stepmother's obituary confirms that eight of these half-siblings were alive as of 2015.<ref>https://www.hufffuneralhome.com/obituary/Dorothy-Chandler</ref>

[[Prank calls#Call Bobby Chandler|Contrary to popular beliefs]], he did not have friends in the Ku Klux Klan.

==Later life, poor health and death==
[[File:Bob playbill for musical push cart.jpg|thumb|200px|Playbill for Mr. C. and his musical pushcart.]]

Bob lived on social security and his General Electric pension.<ref name="Raising">[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#Raising Chris-Chan (16:46 - 00:00)]]</ref> He never really had people to chat with at home (he would ramble to [[Trolls|total strangers]] on the phone if he could), so he sat around, listened to music, and took care of the garden inside the greenhouse.<ref name="PSN 37" /> With a 1970s stereo system set up in the greenhouse, he went to "swing with the music" on his swing there.<ref name="Raising" />

Bob had two triple bypasses and four heart attacks. The two triple-bypass operations took place first in August 1980 and at last in 1992. He had {{w|Coronary artery disease}} and wore an {{w|Artificial cardiac pacemaker|artificial pacemaker}}.<ref>[[Autism papers#FAMILY_HISTORY:]]</ref><ref>[[Mumble 3]]</ref> He apparently had several vivid near-death experiences: during [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#Bob's health problems (0:24:23–0:25:29)|Chris's date with]] [[Emily]], Bob tells her that he has "died" several times, and Chris says that Bob "has seen the light, but did not actually go to it." In one prank call, Bob revealed that after surgery for cancer it was discovered that he had a fluid build-up in his legs, which is symptomatic of CHF. This rapid decline in health worried him.<ref name="Prank calls"/> He attributed his long life to the [[Cherokee]] in him. His uncles and grandfather all lived past 90.<ref name="PSN 37" /> Despite his heart troubles he continued to eat at [[Burger King]] daily.<ref>[[Prank calls#Calls to Bob and Chris]]</ref><ref>[[Trollin Train#Hey, guys (Sun 22 Aug 2010)]]</ref>

On 1 [[March 2010]], Chris [[Twitter|tweeted]] that Bob had been taken to the hospital in the early morning for "congested [''sic''] {{w|heart failure}}". Chris seemed confident that his father was not in for a long stay. Considering Bob's age, lifestyle, and long history of heart disease, [[Chris and death|Chris did not seem to grasp the seriousness of his heart failure]]. Bob had been the only thing keeping [[14 Branchland Court|the Chandler household]] from imploding, and as such, trolls and white knights alike wished him the very best.

[[Image:Bobbed.jpg|thumb|Apart from the dying heart]]

In the month following Bob's hospitalization, Chris was remarkably quiet on the subject of his father. News about his condition was hard to come by, as information only arose [[Chris and his Ego|when Chris was inclined to complain about it online]]. Statistically, congestive heart failure is not as immediately fatal as its name implies,<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201210121845/https://www.healthline.com/health/chf-life-expectancy]</ref> but Bob's age, prior heart attacks and [[Tour of Chris's House|lifestyle]] made this a very serious situation.

Chris's videos over the month of March made no mention of Bob at all. Staying true to his painfully predictable nature, Chris instead lost a [[The Wallflower|girlfriend he never had]], [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|made racial slurs and death threats towards a cartoon character]], and [[F Abstinance|raged against abstinence]]. His silence on the subject of his father was probably because of [[Naïve|genuine ignorance]] of the seriousness of his father's condition.

A poster on [[/cwc/]] contacted Chris via PSN regarding Bob. He posted a screen capture of Chris's response, saying, "He is doing much better, thank you."<ref>[[:File:Bobbetter.jpg]]</ref> Another contacted Chris via email and got a response saying, "Yes, my father is healthy and safe." Clearly he was neither, but this was at least proof that Bob hadn't joined the Whites-Only section of Heaven just yet. In late May, Chris finally made [[Some Favored Comedians|a brief mention]] in a public video that his father was "alive and well". Chris was, at least, half right.

A breakdown of Bob's final months reads as follows.

On 24 March 2011, Bob claimed in a phone call to have cancer of some description.<ref>http://youtu.be/y-GGSOyCm2k</ref>

On 23 April 2011, in an e-mail to Jackie, Chris revealed that Bob had received surgery for colon cancer.<ref>[[Jackie_E-mails_24]]</ref>

On 20 July 2011, it was revealed that [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia#Re: Coming out to my parents|Bob knew about Chris's cross-dressing tendencies]] and, like Barb, vehemently disapproved of them.

On 29 August 2011, Chris, now deeply entrenched in his [[Tomgirl Saga|tomgirlish ways]], [[Response to ADF|mentioned that Bob was an ill and sickly shut-in]], and was suffering from [[Chris and English|"feet-bloatings"]].

In early September 2011, Bob was rushed by ambulance to Martha Jefferson hospital with heart failure. [[Rocky Shoemaker call|It was discovered later]] that Bob had been put into quarantine when he arrived because his body was [[14 Branchland Court|covered in bug bites]] and he posed a contamination risk. On the sixth of that month, he died at age 84.<ref name="BobObit"></ref> Out of respect for him and his family, the CWCki was closed for a week, 12–19 September, with the start date coinciding with the day Bob's funeral service was held. Site visitors were directed to a page which simply read "Robert Franklin Chandler Jr. 1927–2011".<ref name="BobObit" />

It is said that [[Man in the Pickle Suit|Marvin]] and other trolls, using the [[Jackie]] identity as a catfish, attempted to contact Chris over the phone shortly after Bob's death for unclear reasons; Chris was noted to be audibly upset as he cried throughout the conversation. While the audio was recorded and archived on what is referred to as the "Black Tape" by some Christorians, the contents of the call were never released publicly due to Chris's miserable emotional state. The trolls who participated in the call realized after the fact that it was simply too soon to try to reach out to Chris in this fashion and, for a change, opted to respect his privacy for once. The Black Tape either still exists in the hands of the trolls who participated in its creation, or it has been lost to time.<ref>[[CWCki Forums posts (Marvin)#The Black Tape]]</ref>

Bob's death also marked another significant change in Chris's life, as the vast majority of the trolls associated with the [[Christorical eras|"Classic Era"]] voluntarily retired from trolling Chris, knowing that he was deeply depressed by his father's demise. Only a few of these trolls still remain active as observers on [[Kiwi Farms]], and a trolling renaissance did not begin until much later in the decade with the advent of the [[Idea Guys]].

==Cause of death==
Despite the fairly clear-cut nature of the lumberjack's passing, Chris has since declared that the [[trolls]] were responsible for Bob's death. In an [[Misc_E-mails|email]] leaked on 22 [[March 2014]], Chris claims that the stress of his trolling led to Bob's heart attack. This keeps in the trend Chris has developed of blaming any and all misfortunes (even those faced by everyone, like burying a family member) on trolls.

{{quote|AND the total [[stress]] KILLED my Father Prematurely; if not for those Trolls, he would still be alive, and would have likely lived beyond 2015.|Chris.}}

Even for Chris this is appalling behavior; using the '''death of his own father''' as a vehicle to play the victim and attempt to stave off trolls. While it's not uncommon for those who have lost loved ones to blame their deaths on external causes (however impossible or insane, as in this case) Chris's actions are motivated purely out of selfishness and egotism – business as usual.

Years later, in 2017, Chris revised his claim and said that Bob was killed after hospital staff surprised him with a "Loud Noise". He went on to say that he had more freedom when Bob was alive.

{{quote|I wish I could go back to September 5, 2011 and stop the staff from making the Loud Noise that killed my father with stressful surprise. I had more freedom when he was alive.|Chris<ref name=LoudNoise></ref>}}

==Obituary==
Both [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] and Chris collaborated in writing Bob's obituary, which was published in two local papers. Main points of the obituary, apart from the standard birth date, date of death, and next of kin, include:

* Text going into [[autism|unusual detail]] about what Bob did at General Electric.
* The location of the memorial service, "to follow on a later date", at [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church]], the church that Barb, Bob and Chris used to frequent together. This is the same church that [[Rocky Shoemaker]] counseled Chris from.
* A footnote asking readers to not donate flowers, but to [[Chris and money|donate money to Barbara and Chris]].

With Chris taking part in writing the obituary, it's amazing that the writing stayed focus on Bob and did not once mention Sonichu or become about Chris (except for the request for money at the end).

===Original text===
[[Image:Rip internet lumberack by vekke.png|thumb|May you always watch over our sweet autist.]]
:''Robert Franklin Chandler Jr., 84, of Ruckersville, passed away the morning of Tuesday, September 6, 2011, at Martha Jefferson Hospital ICU surrounded by family, pastor and hospital staff.''

:''He was born on September 4, 1927, in Texas, the son of the late Robert Franklin Chandler Sr. and Jean Holloman Chandler. On June 7, 1980, he married Barbara Anne Weston, who survives. And the couple gave birth to a son, Christian Weston Chandler, who survives. Also surviving is ex-wife, Patricia, and their shared children, son, Dr. David Alan Chandler, survives, and daughter, Carol Suzanne Chandler, survives.''

:''He graduated from Auburn University with a degree in Engineering.''

:''He served in the United States Army Seoul Korea in the Signal Corp during the Korean War. He worked for General Electric as an Engineer with Steels, Plastics, etc. He also had patents for the controls for Plastic Molding Machines; without him, we would not have even a simple plastic funnel.''

:''Also surviving are granddaughter, Savannah Chandler, the daughter of David Alan Chandler and his wife, Kimberly.''

:''A funeral service will be held at Monticello Memory Gardens in Charlottesville, Virginia, 10 a.m. Monday, September 12, 2011. A memorial service to follow on a later date at Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church.''

:''Instead of flowers, you may make monetary donations to his widow, Barbara Chandler and son, Christian Chandler.<ref name="BobObit" />

==In memoriam==
[[File:Chandler_Niche.jpg|thumb|left|Bob's final resting place.]]

Bob is often seen as a gregarious, hard-working man ([[Ruckersville, VA|all things considered]]) who tried ([[Destruction Of Chris's House|albeit without]] [[26 December 2014|success]]) his best to refine Chris into someone that could at least pass for a responsible adult, giving him mock job interviews and [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript|chaperoning him on dates]], where he proved (unsurprisingly) more adept at charming the date than Chris.

On the other hand, we have him to thank for some of his son's more [[Homos|backward]] [[Niggos|worldviews]]. He managed to alienate his other children enough that [[Carol Chandler|his daughter]] didn't attend his funeral or keep in touch while he was alive. He helped Chris to construct [[Matthew Noble call|bizarre]] [[Greene County Conspiracy|conspiracy theories]] to justify [[Chris and the law|trespassing and the like]], among [[Chris and his ego|other things]]. He, like Barbara, enabled Chris's crippling dependence on them, general immaturity and irresponsibility, and his myriad of other flaws. He bailed out his son repeatedly and never really let Chris experience the [[Financhu Crisis|consequences]] of his misinformed [[Chris and money|life decisions]]. He never made any serious effort to correct his son's glaring character flaws and shortcomings, even when he caught him [[Bob Walks In|masturbating]] in the kitchen. He also did not make any real attempt to provide for Chris' future, beyond ensuring the tugboat. He left all his money to Barbara, who promptly wasted it all on [[Rob Bell|lawyer's fees]] – a conscientious parent would have anticipated this and put some of the money in a trust for Chris.

Ultimately, Bob's legacy is a complicated one. While some like to remember Bob as a kind-hearted man who tried his best to be a good father, others see him as an old backward-thinking coot who is partially responsible for the person Chris is today.

{{clear}}

==Chris's beliefs on Bob's afterlife==
===Idea Guy influences===
{{quote|Robert Franklin Chandler Jr's and Ted Bundy's souls never went to Heaven or Hell; They both became reborn ''[...]'' as their respective Sonichu forms. ''[...]'' Mister C. and Ted also serve to help the nation of CWCville in defense, and in intellect.|[[Sonichu 16|''Sonichu'' #16]], page 49}}

[[File:Bobchu.jpeg|thumb|150px|Bob's Sonichu form.]]
[[File:Bob meets Ted Bundy, Sonichu 16.JPG|Bob meets Ted Bundy in the hereafter.|thumb|150px]]

During the [[Idea Guys]] saga, Chris's belief in multiple dimensions was exploited and his sense of reality hijacked to make changes to many of Chris's characters, concepts and perspectives of the real world, with him considering them to be valid. Perhaps one of the more heinous examples of this was the Idea Guys' manipulation of Chris's views on his own father; views which Chris has yet to abandon, despite the Idea Guys being removed from power by the [[Guard Dogs]] in mid-2018. Ideas involving Bob include:

*Bob's spirit resides in CWCville, dimension [[C-197]], as a half-Sonichu named Robertchu, styled in his Sonichu form as a beaver with checkerboard fur<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20201210122024/https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1008449921387778048</ref><ref>The drawing of Robertchu was among those drawn for Idea Guy, and no references to it exist beforehand.</ref> (a reference to his troll-given Internet Lumberjack nickname).

*Bob met serial killer Ted Bundy while in CWCville and helps defend it alongside Ted.<ref>[[Sonichu 13|''Sonichu'' #13]]</ref>

[[File:RobertchuBackHome.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Robertchu as a [[Shipfic]] card.]]

Post-Idea Guys, Chris decided that Robertchu's fur color was really red with black ears because he found it too time-consuming to draw the checkerboard pattern.<ref>[[June 2019 social media posts#Father's Day memorial]]</ref>

Robertchu was featured as cards in Chris's homemade [[Shipfic]] expansion. In one, Chris photoshopped a photo of [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] so that she is standing beside a drawing of Robertchu in his Sonichu form. The card text reads, "Honey, I'm Home" and states:

{{quotebox|Every once in a while, Mister C runs back home to offer comfort to Barbara. Before the Dimension Merge's completion, she has missed him everyday, and found the solace and comfort when he comes by. He continues to carry a torch for her in his heart and soul while he helps to protect everyone in Cwcville and at this old temple of a house.}}

{{clear}}

==Appearances==

===In ''Sonichu''===
{{quote|Christian, you are not a girl! Go put your pants back on.|Bob, ''Sonichu'' #12}}

[[File:Chandlers & Sonichus.jpg|200px|thumb]]

In [[Sonichu 8#Spring Break, 2008!|"Spring Break, 2008"]], a radio announcement from [[Jamsta Sonichu]] mentions that Bob founded [[CWCville]] in 1982, presumably after Chris's birth on [[Chris's birthday|24 February]] given that Bob named the city after his newborn son. Comic Bob presumably served as mayor before Chris took the office at an unknown date. At other points, Bob was mentioned in Chris's tangents about hating men other than himself and his father.

{{Mayors of CWCville}}

In [[Sonichu_9#Episode_19|"Date Ed"]], there are two dolls for the class to practice talking to, girls received "Robert" dolls, while boys received "Barbara" dolls, an obvious reference/homage to Bob and Barb.

Bob made his first official appearance in [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]], photoshopped into a "family photo" alongside Chris, Barb and various [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]].

[[File:Borb, Sonichu12.jpg|200px|thumb|left]]

[[File:Bob,Sonichu12.jpg|200px|thumb|right]]

In [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]], Bob appears in a set of pages that combine an autobiographical account of Chris coming out as a [[tomgirl]] to his parents, and a tribute to his late father. He is depicted as an elderly man, as the page took place in 2010 (due to Chris's Oedipal complex, Barb is depicted as much more youthful). He attempts to dissuade Chris from continuing his tomgirl lifestyle, although Chris states that Bob later "told me he accepts and love [sic] me for who I am" shortly before his passing in 2011.

Chris concludes Bob's appearance in the book with a photo in memoriam of his life, saying that he and Barb continue to miss him every day.

[[File:Chandler family as ponies.png|200px|thumb|left|Bob, pictured at right, as ''Gallop Crush'', in a [[MLP]]-inspired drawing from [[August 2017]].]]

In August 2017, Chris unveiled a drawing of the Chandler family depicted as [[My Little Pony]] characters, saying that they will make further appearances in [[Sonichu 12-9|''Sonichu'' #12-9]]. The ponified Bob, known as "Gallop Crush", appears as [[Night Star]]'s father, reaffirming the self-insert nature of Chris's ponysona.

In the [[Idea Guys]]-written [[Sonichu 16|''Sonichu'' #16]], Bob's spirit crosses over into CWCville where he meets and strikes up a conversation with serial killer Ted Bundy.

===As a toy===

<center><gallery>
File:BobAmiibo.jpg|[[Amiibo]] Bob, which Chris offered for sale on [[Etsy]] in [[November 2015]]. Oh yes.
File:ChrisFamilyEtsyC.jpg|Promo drawing
</gallery></center>

===Audio and video===

In every appearance, Bob has proven himself to be better at charming Chris's [[sweetheart]]s than Chris himself (not a difficult feat, to be fair).

* [[1990]]: Bob appeared as the DJ to the [[WTJU Marathon]].
* 26 February [[1994]]: Bob appears briefly behind Chris from 0:26-0:36 in the news report of the [[Chris in the media|Sonic Watch & Win Sweepstakes]].
* 14 [[February 2009]]: [[Bob Walks In]] to Chris [[mass debating]].
* 18 [[February 2009]]: In [[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.5]] and [[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.7|3.7]], Bob rambles to [[Julie]].
* 15 [[March 2009]]: Bob [[Church audio|talked]] to [[Robert Simmons V]] at [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|church]] while [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|Chris went to shit himself]].
* [[March 2009]]: Bob chaperoned Chris on his date with [[Emily]].
* 27 [[March 2009]]: Bob gets intruded by Chris in the [[Tour of Christian's House]], but is not visible.
* 27 [[August 2009]]: [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|Bob enters Chris's room]] and scolds him for making the house tour, (correctly) fearing that if someone saw the house as it was, they would be evicted (Uncut version only). This is a momentous occasion, showing some awareness on the part of the Chandlers that the filth and squalor they live in is a health hazard. This video subsequently off a wave of emails and calls to the Greene County Health Department, masterminded by trolls who hoped to realize Bob's fear of eviction, but the campaign was seemingly unsuccessful.
* [[November 2009]]: Bob and [[Barb|Snorlax]] make a brief appearance at the end of the [[Kacey and Liquid Call]].
* 15 [[August 2010]]: In his final outing on the damn Internet, Bob gets a [[Matthew Noble call|call from the GAMe PLACe]] and is informed of Chris's actions earlier in the year. He then goes on a tangent about how Chris has been tormented by everyone ever since he was banned, and then demands Michael Snyder's information. Barbara also is audible at the end of the call.
* [[Prank calls]]: Bob answered several of these. He was usually sincere when talking with prank callers, providing them with true and honest information about himself and Chris, but was occasionally pushed to trolling them back, on one occasion telling a particularly obnoxious pair of trolls that he had ties to the Ku Klux Klan.

==Gallery==
<center>
<gallery>
File:Bob1946Auburn.jpg|Bob's Auburn freshman yearbook photo, taken for the 1946 yearbook.
File:BobJax1950.PNG|Bob's 1950 Jacksonville State Teachers College sophomore yearbook photo.
File:Bobauburn1951.PNG|Bob's 1951 Auburn junior yearbook photo.
File:Bobauburn1952.PNG|Bob's Auburn senior yearbook photo.
File:WW2BobChandler(badquality).jpg|Bob's 1946 U.S. Army draftee.
File:BobPatMarriage.png|Bob and Patricia's newspaper engagement.
File:1956 9 25 - Bob, Patricia marriage license.png|1956 9 25 - Bob, Patricia marriage license.
File:1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.png|1980 1 28 - Bob, Patricia divorce.
File:1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.jpeg|1980 6 7 - Borb marriage license.
File:Bob and his parents - 1930s census.png|Bob and his parents - 1930s census.
File:Bob and his parents - 1940s census.png|Bob and his parents - 1940s census.
File:Bob1950Census.jpg|Bob in the Jacksonville State Teachers University's dormitory room - 1950s census.
File:Bob's birth certificate.png|Bob's birth certificate.
File:Chris's family tree up to his great great grandparents.png|Chris's family tree up to his great-great-grandparents.
Image:Thehell.jpg|
Image:0009-ChristopherChristmas2.jpg|Christmas at the Chandlers, taken sometime during the 1980s.
Image:0011-ChristopherBobXmas.jpg|That isn't Chris's half-senile old grandfather at [[Christmas]] time. It's Bob. He was that age when Chris was about one.
Image:0014-YoungerFather.jpg
Image:0032-BobAtRestraunt.jpg|
File:1993family.png|Barb, Chris and Bob in [[1993]]
Image:0038-AuntCorinaAndDad.jpg|Bob with [[Aunt Corrina]].
Image:0062-NewChristian&Dad.jpg|
Image:0120-BobbyBehindBars.jpg|
Image:0230-ChristianAndDadInClass.jpg|
File:Bob1997article1.png|Bob's short brief article from Richmond Times-Dispatch in July 1997.
File:Bob1997article2.png|Bob's short brief article from Richmond Times-Dispatch in August 1997.
Image:0626-BobbyInGarden.jpg|Bob used to enjoy gardening back in the day.
Image:CreepyBobAndChris.JPG|
Image:Bob_80th.jpg
File:Robert Chandler, 19 June 2016 Facebook post photo.jpg|Last known photo.
</gallery>
</center>

==Fan tributes==
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| Maker = 8x13Wolf
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{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = RIP Bob Chandler
| video = {{#ev:youtube|tyoboaDCJ0s}}
| Stardate = 29 September 2011
| Maker = furnacewoodsband
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==References==
{{Fan Art|chris=Bob Chandler}}
<references />

==External links==
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20201210122203/https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/141038783/robert-franklin-chandler Bob Chandler at Find a Grave]

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Trolls

2023-07-30T03:29:07Z

Lilacraven: /* BlueSpike */

:''This article is about troll personas. For how trolls manipulated Chris, see [[Chris and manipulation]].''

{{Protip|If you're thinking about [[Weening|trying to troll Chris now as part of some zany scheme to get Chris to do something funny]], then don't. The golden age of trolling Chris was well over a decade ago and is never coming back, and [[Idea Guys|any attempt at]] [[Isabella Loretta Janke|reviving it]] has ended in disaster. Chris is a shell of the person he once was and is living in much more depressing circumstances than the ones that made him an infamous lolcow.}}

{{quote|That which can condemn the abnormally foolish is not the abnormally clever... That which can condemn the abnormally foolish is the normally foolish.|GK Chesterton}}
{{quote|...[T]hey are [[Chris and Anger|vicious]], [[Chris and reality|crazy]], [[Slow-in-the-minds|wickedly smart]] people.|[[Chris]] on trolls.<ref>[[Tomboys_And_Tomgirls_of_Virginia#Friendship_Issues|Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]]</ref>}}
{{quote|What a world we live in, with such trolls in it.|[[Bubbles]], [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]].}}

'''Trolls''' are various individuals of all races, colors, and creeds united under a common goal - to mess with the life of, and extract as many lulz from the [[Chris and the Internet|Internet]]'s most beloved and most hated [[autistic]] manchild, [[Chris Chan]], as possible. The organized effort to troll Chris began in earnest in 2007, and still has momentum going for it, even if it peaked after disbanding of the Classic-era trolls following the death of Chris's [[father]] in 2011.

Trolling schemes by these individuals have ranged from [[Manipulation|manipulating]] Chris into a ''Truman Show''-like existence, making him [[:Category:Videos with RAGE|rage on video]], making him take [[Nudes|pictures of himself unclothed]], accelerating the breaking of his sense of [[reality]], and more.

==Pre-ED==
It is notable that Chris was bullied in real life before his discovery by [[4-cent garbage.com|4chan]] and [[ED]]. It can be argued that the first known torment of Chris occurred when his lifelong-friend-who-no-longer-speaks-to-him, [[Sarah Nicole Hammer]], [[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares#Memories of childhood|locked him under the house]] when they were children. The next notable bullying occurred during the infamous mini-date with [[Hanna]] in [[2005]] which smashed his [[heart level]] to 15%. Around the same time, he was also trolled by a girl he contacted through [[MySpace]] named [[MySpace messages#Lindsay|Lindsay Kaye]]. There was also possible trolling of Chris through the guestbook on his website from as early as [[2003]], when "a hot redhead" said that she would meet him outside of [[PVCC]] (either this was epic trolling, or Chris put it on the guestbook himself). And let's not forget about [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and [[The GAMe PLACe]] hijinks.

But this was all child's play compared to what happened next....

==The Miscreants==
{{quote|Y'all are making me very nervous right now.|Chris on The Miscreants.<ref>[[Mumble 9]]</ref>}}

[[Image:REALChrisChanAndFriends.jpg|thumb|left|The Miscreants at their annual Ancient and Secret convention.]]
[[File:MiscreantsJury.png|thumb|left|The Miscreants on jury duty for Chris's [[Affair with Mother|misdeeds]].]]
[[Image:TapestryPickleMan.jpg|thumb|The Miscreants was an ancient order dating over a thousand years. In this lost scene from the Bayeux Tapestry, Christian's ancestor Geoffrey Weston the Feeble-Minded notes that he has been fooled by the "Man donning the Pickled Cucumber Suit."]]

'''The Miscreants''' were a group of people who trolled Chris from 2009 up until his father's death in 2011. [[Clyde Cash]] was the original leader of The Miscreants, which was styled after The Patriots, the shadowy cabal from the ''[[Metal Gear]]'' series who are revealed to be behind a conspiracy spanning decades, including all of the main incidents the protagonists go through. They claimed to be responsible for several unfortunate events in Chris's past, [[Chris and reality|which Chris seemingly believed]].

On 23 [[February 2009]], The Miscreants approached Chris in [[Mumble]] and informed him of their plan. Several [[Secret Weapon|"HA-HA, I got you!"]] videos were made, all with false information. To deal with these Internet bullies Chris resorted to [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 23rd, 2009|babbling incoherently]].

After the disappearance of Clyde Cash, the site was down for a few weeks, with the message that "Clyde's dead, baby." After that, the website returned, apparently re-uploaded by Vivian Gee. Part of the site description read "Name's Vivian. Guess I'm the new leader or some shit. Fuck y'all." On 28 [[June 2009]], the Miscreants set up shop at the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens]] message board.

While online wars have been waged, [[Man in the Pickle Suit|Men in Pickle Suits]] have also been deployed to ruin Chris in reality. These exploits have included stealing his [[Emily|date]], obtaining potentially life-ruining material, and generally being lulzy. They also seemed to treat [[Bob Chandler]] as one of their own.

While the group's explicit purpose, [[Mumble 9|according to Cash]], was to ensure that [[Chris and sex|Chris never got laid]] and forever remain a [[Virgin with rage]], that didn't stop them from [[Hooker incident|sending a bunch of prostitutes to]] [[14 Branchland Court|Chris's house]]. Nonetheless, Chris got the last laugh when [[Mia Hamm|he hired a prostitute]].

Since the death of Bob, the Miscreants have effectively disbanded, with pretty much everyone involved distancing themselves from Chris, and only a few (such as [[Surfshack Tito]]) continuing their efforts before eventually losing interest. Years after the fact, some have admitted that they took things too far when reflecting on this era of Christory, while others look back with a sense of smug satisfaction.

[[File:AdamStackhouse.jpg|left|80px|thumb|Adam Stackhouse]]

===[[Adam Stackhouse]]===

In [[2007]] Chris would enter the [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown]], in an attempt to win over [[Megan]]'s heart. [[Adam Stackhouse]] would win instead, due to his video being superior. This would prompt a [[Chris and anger|tard rage]], in which he created a fake webpage proclaiming himself the winner<ref>http://web.archive.org/web/20071108233910/http://members.aol.com/CWCSonichu/EPPromotions283.html</ref>, as well as [[CWC is Angry|a creepy video]] in which he shoots a photo of Adam and his sister with his [[Megatron Pistol]] in silence and exclaims his anger at the end.

[[File:ABL.png|left|80px|thumb|Alec Benson Leary]]

===[[Alec Benson Leary]]===
Creator of ''[[Asperchu]]'', a webcomic that was specifically designed to piss Chris off. This started a long war between ''[[Sonichu]]'' and the aforementioned Asperchu in which Alec and the [[Asperpedia Four]] caused the death of [[Simonla Rosechu]], placed ads for the [[Asperpedia]] on the [[CWCipedia]], and eventually took control of the CWCipedia and took it down. Alec and Chris exchanged a series of [[Alec Benson Leary calls|nine calls]] over the course of the war. Alec has also been responsible for other trollsome personas, including [[Lars]] and [[Jackie]].

[[Image:SirWilliamMaysOBE.jpg|left|80px|thumb|BILLY MAYS]]

===[[BILLY MAYS]]===
The infamous loud-mouthed salesman of the same name who types in ALL CAPS. He was declared the mayor of [[CWCville]] by Chris on 3 March 2009 while under pressure from [[BlueSpike#Max|Max]]. It is widely suspected that Chris himself had something to do with his untimely death.

===[[Blanca Weiss]]===
[[Image:Blanka.jpg|80px|thumb|Blanca's true identity.]]

"Blanca" was really a trio of trolls (RickyRicardo123, Ickeriss69, and Nurse Icky-chan) who tricked Chris into sending them nudes, and later his [[Medallions of Fail|Sonichu medallion]]. Ickeriss later uploaded a couple of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3Jr2ZktVfI videos] featuring the Sonichu medallion, including a video in which the medallion is destroyed.

Not to be confused with [[Trolls#Lordsillynipples|LordSillyNipples]], who used the Blanca identity to score the first nudes.

===[[BlueSpike]]===
[[Image:Bluespikeohexploitable.png|thumb|left|80px|Bluespike's identity is unknown.]]
BlueSpike (AKA "LeonSpike", aka "Julie", aka "Max") is a [[Pedofork|thirteen-year-old boy]] who pretended to be Chris's [[sweetheart]], "[[Julie]]". He later revealed himself as a troll in a now infamous [[Julie Reveals Herself|hour-long phone call]], in which he berates Chris, and forces him to cut up his [[Sonichu medallion]] and shove it up his ass.

[[Image:BryanBash.jpg|thumb|left|80px|Bryan Bash (right) with your sister (left).]]

===[[Bryan Bash]]===
Bryan Bash is a close friend of [[Clyde Cash]]. He is the one who [[Hooker incident|sent hookers over to Chris's house]], as well as the person who called during the infamous [[Bob Walks In|"Bob Walks In"]] audio file, and is responsible for leaking [[CWCRockin4Way.jpg]]. Additionally, he leaked the [[Father Call]] and the [[Kacey and Liquid Call]] to [[/cwc/]] on 11 November [[2009]], and he has also leaked conversations between [[Chris]] and [[Jack Thaddeus]].

===[[Clyde Cash]]===

[[image:TheRealClydeCash.jpg|thumb|80px|right|Clyde Cash. The man. The legend. The guido.]]

The nefarious [[Clyde Cash]] is the most infamous and legendary of trolls. A vile and reprehensible fellow whose very name strikes fear and revulsion into Chris's clogged heart and inspires admiration from the souls of the people. He posed as [[Shigeru Miyamoto]], raped Chris's beloved [[PandaHalo]], and performed many more amazing feats about which songs shall be written and the minstrels shall sing of in the ages immemorial. Unfortunately it will not come to pass since Clyde is serving a life sentence for stealing the identity of Lee Hotti.

===[[Emily]]===

A brave soul who went on a date with Chris. She was later saved by the [[Man in the Pickle Suit|Jew in the Pickle Suit]].

[[File:Ahuvia.png|thumb|left|80px|Jack Thaddeus]]

===[[Jack Thaddeus]]===
The possible successor (and gay lover) of Clyde Cash and is responsible for various [[PS3#PlayStation Network|PSN]]-related trollings and also for the [[CWCipedia]] ads.

[[File:Jimmuh hill.jpg|thumb|80px|Jimmy Hill]]

===[[Jimmy Hill]]===
A British sportscaster. He claimed to be the true original creator of Sonichu, the first openly gay cartoon character which briefly became very popular in Europe in 2009.

===[[Jason Kendrick Howell]]===
The original creator of the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|ED]] page.

===[[The Man in the Pickle Suit]] ===
A real-life pickleman who answers to Clyde Cash. He saved Emily from the clutches of Chris.

[[Image:CChanSonichuCWC.jpg|thumb|left|80px|The [[TRUE and HONEST]] Chris]]

===[[Liquid Chris]]===
A [[YouTube]] troll who is known for doing a spot-on impersonation of Chris-chan. Within his saga, Liquid Chris is referred to as the [[TRUE and HONEST]] Chris-chan and creator of the popular comic character Sonichu, and Solid is referred to as an angry troll named [[Ian Brandon Anderson]], who made outlandish claims that he was the real Chris.

===[[Lordsillynipples]]===
A troll from [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|ED]] who was responsible for impersonating [[Blanca Weiss|Blanca]] and being the first to obtain the now [[Nudes|infamous Chris-chan noodz]] on 11 September 2008, along with [[Christian Weston Chandler...Yep, I'm on TV :)|Chris's DVD]]. She is also responsible for giving birth to the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] and for feeding Chris the infamous guido picture of [[Clyde Cash|Clyde]].

===[[Robert Simmons V]]===
A YouTube troll who managed to gain Chris's trust by showing him support and mirroring his life. Along with [[Church audio|visiting Chris's church]] and meeting [[Bob Chandler|Bob]], he also had a hand in organizing the [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript|Emily date]].

[[image:Tito 300.gif|thumb|80px|Surfshack Tito]]

===[[Shigeru Miyamoto]]===
Shigeru Miyamoto (Japanese: 宮本茂) is the creator of some of Nintendo's most legendary video game franchises such as ''Super Mario'', ''The Legend of Zelda'', and ''Star Fox''. He pretended to be interested in his [[sonichu|yellow Sonic abortion]]. It would later come to light that Miyamoto was a sockpuppet of Clyde.

===[[Surfshack Tito (troll)|Surfshack Tito]]===

An enigmatic troll who managed to invoke Chris's wrath on [[Surfshack Tito|two]] [[Tito Got No Luck Against We Brits, Irish and Scots!|separate]] occasions by hacking his PSN and taking the blame for ruining Chris's slim chances with [[The Wallflower]]. He was also involved in [[The MovingForward videos|the destruction]] of Chris's beloved [[PS3]].

[[image:TH.PNG|thumb|80px|left|Thorg]]
[[image:Vivian.jpg|thumb|80px|Vivian]]

===[[Thorg]]===
A troll responsible for creating a [[20 December 2009|slanderous billboard]] in 2009 and exposing [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]] in 2011. A major part of Chris's 2011 [[Calling Out|blackmail campaign]].

===[[Vivian Gee]]===
The creator of the ''Sonichu'' [[audiobooks]] and various other Chris-related videos and cousin of Clyde Cash. A former white knight who turned troll after she realized Chris was a [[Vivian Gee E-mails|hopeless, thick-skulled moron]]. She and Clyde Cash were both personas created by the same troll.

==Post-Bob's death==
Following Bob's death in 2011, the then-current group of trolls disbanded to give Chris room to grieve. In the years that followed, new trolls would eventually crop up.

===[[Thetan]]===
Impersonated Chris's former high school classmates.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/6-22-chris-at-too-many-games-convention.44691/post-3494509</ref>

===[[Catherine]] and [[Cousin Al]]===
Catherine is a fake love interest who conspired with [[Marvin]] by manipulating [[OKCupid]] results to match with Chris's.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-2798964 (archive: https://archive.fo/0wRXL)</ref> She used this influence for another sweetheart saga which included meeting him in real life to surreptitiously record his conversations.

Cousin Al is another associate of Catherine's who joined her in the meetings and posted the recorded conversations to the [[CWCki Forums]]. He is also known for rummaging through Chris's trash to find and post the [[Manchester High Leaks]] to the forum<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/new-leak-s-15jun2014.3897/ (archive: https://archive.fo/AcM0p)</ref> (his username would later be changed by moderators to "garbageraider" to reflect this).

===[[Jeff/Francine]]===
The mysterious creator of [[CWC Adult Chronicles]]. Targeted by Chris for selling unofficial Sonichu merchandise and in a blatant act of [[hypocrisy]], was made fun of for her transition.

===[[Johan]]===
An ex-gay porn star who challenged Chris for the rights to impregnate [[Sam and Ellen|two lesbians]]. After a sex-off, Johan's superior body and non-bent duck won them over.

===[[Jessica Quinn]]===
A former white knight who played the long con by becoming his sweetheart. Known for her fat fetishism before ditching him and coming back and forth to toy with him.

==Fantasy Enablers==
Beginning in October 2017, the [[Idea Guys]] exploited Chris's fantasy [[coping]] mechanisms to gain power over him. Since then, numerous [[enablers]] have used similar methods.

===[[Idea Guys]]===
A group of trolls whose actions rivaled and arguably surpassed that of BlueSpike. They remain infamous for how they manipulated and brainwashed Chris over a period of several months, coercing him into performing degrading acts and extorting him out of thousands. The Idea Guys hastily vanished after the emergence of the [[Guard Dogs]], who set about attempting to reverse all the Idea Guys had wrought. Nonetheless, Chris maintains many of their influences in the current day, chief among them the beliefs that he's a [[CPU Blue Heart|CPU goddess]], the [[Dimensional Merge]], and his imaginary [[polyamorous marriage]].

===[[Teen Troon Squad]]===
A group of transgender teenagers who posed as his friends. They took advantage of Chris's faltering sense of reality by feeding him information on the [[Dimensional Merge]] and taking over his Twitter account. Rumored to have given Chris marijuana.

===[[Jacob Sockness]]===
A mysterious man from San Francisco, California, who aimed to manipulate Chris into a relationship. He had primarily served to only further enable the beliefs planted in Chris's head by the [[Idea Guys]], as well as bolster Chris's beliefs in the [[Dimensional Merge]]. After Sockness stated that he was taking a train across the country to meet with Chris in person, Chris insisted that Sockness stop after realizing Sockness was a legitimate danger. While Sockness relented and went back to California, he still ended up continuing to try and force his way back into Chris's life on repeated occasions, only to be aggressively rejected by Chris in late November 2019. Despite this, Sockness made several more attempts at returning. Eventually being repeatedly chastised by Chris on [[Twitter]] in [[July 2020]], and finally being permanently blocked by Chris by the end of [[August 2020]].

===[[Ben Saint]]===
A webcomic artist who expressed an interest in Chris two years prior. Ben entered into a squabble with Chris after getting him and [[Night Star]] involved in his latest comic series promoting his latest project, ''Endless War''. The interaction would then lead to a battle over the canonicity over the events of the comic, with the two sides providing [[Sonichu Special 7|contradictory narratives]].

===[[Larry Vaughn]]===
A troll who attempted to somewhat follow in the footsteps of the Idea Guys. His grandiose plans of using [[Magi-Chan]] as a hostage to make Chris drive to Disney World were stopped before they could begin, but Vaughn did manage to have Chris send bizarre Twitter DMs to various individuals.

==[[Sonichu_(character)|Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]]==
While there's no definitive proof of these two being trolls, they have been known to dispense advice for Chris from time to time, especially on the subject of relationships.<ref name="Jackie e 16">[[Jackie_E-mails_16]]</ref> Considering the [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|results derived from said advice]], one cannot help but wonder about their true motivations.

==Devil Trolls==
[[File:ModNation TrollFemale.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Featured in ''[[ModNation Racers]]''.]]

Aside from the several notable figures above, the '''Devil Trolls''' are mysterious, [[Image:DevilTroll.jpg|thumb|200px|Artist's depiction.]] evil creatures that appear in Chris's ''[[Sonichu]]'' comic series. These creatures are first mentioned in [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]] and make their first full appearance in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]].

[[File:Devil_troll_artistic_interpretation.png|thumb|right|150px|Artistic recreation.]]

Like many beings within Chris's comics, the Devil Trolls are inspired by his encounters in real life. Devil Trolls represent the various trolls that have given him such [[stress]] over his lifetime. This is shown when Chris encounters a set of them attacking a room containing his stuff from one of his earlier websites.

The Devil Trolls make their first mentioned appearance as some sort of grass protrusions taking away the fallen "[[IBAChandler]]" after Sonichu defeats him in ''Sonichu'' #9. They make their full appearance in ''Sonichu'' #10, as [[Chris-Chan Sonichu]] encounters them inside a room containing his pictures from his various websites. Seeing as Chris can't create anything without [[Things Chris has ripped off|ripping off original designs]], Devil Trolls resemble [[Wikipedia:Troll doll|those old Troll toys]], minus their gems, with long tails and demon-like wings. They also sport sharp teeth.

==Motivations==
===Chris's perspective===
Chris himself has a more simplistic view of what motivates his enemies. When a [[Mailbag]] correspondent asked him to explain why he's trolled, and why so many people seem to hate him, Chris had this ingenious response:

{{quote|"[[Chris and English|Tehy're]] just jealous that they did not think of [[Sonichu]] first, or that I am more [[Chris and art|Artistically Talented]] than they are."|[[Chris]], [[Mailbag 5|Mailbag #5]]}}

[[File:Trollll.PNG|thumb|Drawing of a troll appearing in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]].]]

This is consistent with the advice given many children who are harrassed in real life: that bullies are merely jealous of you, and want to see you react unfavorably, when in reality, bullies abuse others for many different motives, jealousy being only one of them - and, internet trolls typically do what they do for their own amusement, and not always out of some personal slight against their target. Since Chris [[Count Graduon|never moved past]] [[Manchester High School|high school]] mentally, he still believes he is hated because [[Ego|he is so much better than everyone else.]] [[File:Trollmiia.png|200px|thumb|artistic recreation @miiashapphire]]

From his own attempts to illustrate trolling, it's obvious that Chris has no concept of how it works. When he tried his hand at impersonation, he thought that we'd all be trolled if he pretended to be an epic troll, but then [[Jack|a troll]] saw through his lie and forced him to admit that he is, indeed, a fat idiot. Chris believes that trolling has two steps: pretend to be someone you're not and then "troll" someone by revealing who you really are. [[Silvana]], a character based on his perception of forum trolls who claim to be people they aren't, thinks it's hilarious to pretend to be [[Meg Griffin]], kiss Chris, and then transform once she's out of sight. As a result, Chris walks away happy, unaware that he just kissed a tranny, defeating the entire point of "trolling" him.

Recently, it seems that he's decided that the majority of his hated trolls are actually homosexuals, combining his two major hates into one massive force of nature. The earliest this is seen is [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Mailbag&oldid=3208|a message he wrote] in his Mailbag section, exploding in rage over an added [[Twitter]] and how they could talk about him behind his back. Even more, in his [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia Page)|CWCipedia article on The Wallflower]], Chris has also decided that the trolls are also [[niggos|black]].

Unsurprisingly, Chris also considers trolling a ''crime'', and has somehow dedicated himself to stop trolling. However, Chris's views on trolling are very very skewed, as he believes that ''all'' trolling is equal to what he had done to him. A [[EXCLUSIVE Manchester High School 2000 Reunion Required NOW|recent video]] actually has him tell people how to act on the Internet [[Chris and hypocrisy|mere moments after revealing his real name, address, and phone number]].

As the years passed, Chris's take on trolls has erupted into a massive flight of fancy. Because he has been refused admittance to [[The GAMe PLACe]], Chris has now proclaimed that the entire store is a massive front for Internet trolling, with [[Michael Snyder]] as the ringleader of it all. As well, he seems to have chosen the [[CWCki Forums]] as a major gathering place for trolls.

===His parents' perspective===
The [[Matthew Noble call]] in August 2010 revealed some interesting insights into Bob and Barbara Chandler's interpretation of what has happened to their son over the years. Chris's parents are apparently convinced that the entire Chris-chan Trolldom grew out of a conspiracy by Michael Snyder, two alleged homosexuals who frequented The GAMe PLACe (possibly [[Lucas]] and [[Mimms]]), and ''[[Megan Schroeder]]'', who worked to get Chris banned from the store and are involved with a general effort to harass and torment Chris. When speaking with Ivy, Bob described Megan with words like "cruel" and "German". Bob was convinced that it is all because they are persecuting Chris for being autistic, while in reality he was scaring away customers with his behavior and sexually harassing Megan.

It's useful to try to consider things from his parents' point of view. To begin with, there ''is'' a worldwide conspiracy, more or less, to pester the Chandlers, violate their privacy, drive their son to do ridiculous things, and otherwise fuck with them in a myriad of ways. Bob and Barbara are bombarded by prank phone calls all day, nude photos, God knows what else arrive in their mail, signs mysteriously appearing on their lawn, Chris having [[Kacey and Liquid Call|angry screaming matches]] with people they've never met on the telephone, Chris once drove off to Ohio to meet [[Julie|a woman who didn't exist]], and so on.

Being Chris's parents must be a fairly surreal experience at this point, and given that they belong to a much older generation, they can hardly be expected to develop the grasp of Internet social phenomena that they'd need to properly understand their situation. The GAMe PLACe, however small a piece of the bigger picture it may be, is the most significant real, physical element of Chris's adventures in trolldom that they've been exposed to. As ridiculous as their theory may seem, it's probably the best they can do as far as making sense of what has happened and continues to happen to them.

==Chris the troll==
While the idea of everyone's favorite manchild becoming the one thing he hates seems kind of farfetched, if not laughably ironic, it actually isn't too far off as one might think. Because of his horrendous misconceptions of what he thinks his trolls does, Chris believes that, if given a new target, Chris's trolls would gladly stop attacking him and go after that new target. In the past, Chris has tried to deflect his trolls towards people like [[Joshua Martinez]], [[Michael Snyder]] and even [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]]. However, Chris has been so entrenched with his trolls and viewers that the idea of going after someone else doesn't seem feasible anymore.

As well, Chris has even attempted to troll his own trolls. One of the first known attempts was the [[Rollin' and Trollin']] video, claiming that he had pulled the most epic prank on the Internet, only to turn around the very next day and reveal that it was a lie. [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], as mentioned above, had his comic book self thinking he had kissed [[Meg Griffin]], not knowing that it was actually [[Silvana]]. As well, on 28 [[April 2012]], he attempted to convince his trolls that he had decided to return to the mall and resume his [[Love Quest]], armed with his [[Attraction Sign]]. Again, he revealed the next day that it was a lie and that he had gotten [[ban]]ned from the mall just before he decided to pull it.

Interestingly, Chris's perception of being a troll is less about trolling to get a rise out of someone and more of attempting to pull a prank. His "return" to the Love Quest is probably the biggest indicator of that. Chris let his trolls know through his [[Facebook]], then waited a day before shouting "SURPRISE!". As well, he also believed that if someone reads his message, he's going to assume that everyone has and that they are going to descend on the mall like a bad flash mob just to find Chris. Too bad everyone, unlike Chris, has lives of their own.

However, if there is one person that Chris himself has successfully trolled, without a shadow of a doubt, it's ''himself''. Proof of this can be directly pointed to his [[Ego#Surrendering Information|bad habit of surrendering information]] about himself, no matter how [[Tomgirl|embarrassing]], [[Nudes|demeaning]], or [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|downright]] [[Dox|stupid]] giving out said tidbits of himself would be. Chris often screams at his trolls for not leaving him alone, but, aside from the fact that his antics only add more fuel to the fire, he always fails to realise that if he didn't give them ammo to begin with, he wouldn't have ended up in this predicament. A shining example of this would be the [[2013 Imgur Leak]]. Chris could have ranted about the trolls, and most would have shrugged and assumed that [[Chris and anger|he's just being angry in typical Chris-Chan fashion.]] That is, until Chris revealed the reason ''why'' he got upset, inadvertently revealing the Facebook posts he was keeping a secret, as well as some [[Death Threats|very unsavory information]] that could get him arrested if taken seriously.

It just goes to show you, nobody trolls Chris better than Chris. Chris is the type to not only shoot himself in the foot, but reload, fire again, and repeat the cycle while blaming the trolls. He just never learns.

==Chris's relationship with the trolls==
Although he would never admit it, Chris eventually developed something of a love-hate relationship with the trolls, which became clear during the Liquid Saga. When Clyde trolled Liquid Chris in a phone call, Chris attempted to redirect Clyde to himself, angered by Liquid's slanderous attempt at stealing his trolls. In an E-mail to Vivian, Chris also [[Vivian Gee E-mails, 2009#4 August|thanked the trolls]] for documenting [[Honest Content|the information he revealed to them]] and [[Lie|allowing him to mature emotionally]]. Although the trolls were a nuisance to Chris, their antics were far more thrilling than Chris's hopelessly shitty yet mundane lifestyle, which left him unfulfilled and [[Persecution complex|desperate for adversity]]. The trolls served as black-and-white antagonists for Chris, giving him a perceived purpose in life and allowing him to live out his [[Sonichu (comic)|fantasies]] as [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|a hero]] [[Jerkops|pitted]] [[Mary Lee Walsh|against]] [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc|one-dimensional]] [[Count Graduon|villains]]. This was likely a factor in Chris's susceptibility to trolling.

Eventually, Chris's desire for a more exciting life of heroes fighting against villains was fully exploited by the [[Idea Guys]] and [[other enablers]]. As a result, Chris now believes that he ''already'' leads the same life as his fantasy counterpart, and has lost interest in traditional trolls.

==Today==
:''Main article: [[Weening]]''
Since the death of [[Bob Chandler|Chris's father]], the [[Destruction Of Chris's House|loss of his home]] and [[Financhu Crisis|his plummet to the breadline]], Chris has changed profoundly. No longer is he the [[naïve]], [[Chris and fashion|clown-shirted]], [[Red Letter CWC Certified Day|indifferent]] [[Ego|egotist]] ED discovered in 2007; instead, he is a jaded, chronically depressed, [[Tomgirl|cross-dressing]] child trapped in an adult's body, who is not as susceptible to, capable of dealing with, and arguably, as deserving of trolling as he used to be.

Many of those who continue to follow his activities are beginning to opine that he has suffered enough, and that active trolling, even where it is successful, doesn't produce the results it used to, takes more effort due to his inflated paranoia, tends to lead to small groups monopolizing Chris and hoarding the information they gather (as happened with [[Blanca Weiss|Blanca]] and [[Catherine]]), and in some cases, causes needless emotional damage to Chris. For example, the revelation that Chris's latest girlfriend, Catherine, was yet another troll persona in early [[November 2014]] provoked disgust and disappointment, as many felt that not only was it [[Sonichu (character)|unoriginal]] and [[JULAAAY|no longer funny]], but the trolls had spent weeks, if not months stringing him along and toying with him, including tricking him into [[I Love You, Catherine|grovelling]] for "Catherine"'s continued affection. Many felt this amounted to emotional abuse of an already broken and miserable shell of a man, some were even disappointed as they felt that after all Chris had gone through, he deserved a lucky break, and a real relationship for a change.

Further, this was accompanied by the revelation that the same group of trolls had also fabricated Chris's denunciation by his [[Gal pal|high school friends]], leading to many questioning the morality of impersonating Chris's old friends just to get a reaction out of him, and of course, the terrifying [[CWCville|Orwellian nightmare]] that such trolling has left Chris in, as virtually every aspect of Chris's social life is [[Chris and manipulation|engineered by trolls]] and he has no way of knowing what or who is real – [[Savannah Chandler|even his own family]].

Chris's transformation has also coincided with, and perhaps influenced, a shift in trolling. Active, chronic trolling such as Chris has experienced is now generally looked down upon as [[weening]] and attention whoring, instead it has become more fashionable to leave a lolcow like Chris to their own devices for the most part, and observe, rather than continually provoke. Proponents note that many major events in Chris's life have happened independent of troll influence, such as [[2014 house fire|him burning down his own home]], his various outings to [[Charlottesville, VA|Charlottesville]] and beyond (and many subsequent IRL bans), his bizarre dealings with [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and of course, the infamous [[28 October 2011]] and [[26 December 2014]] incidents. It can also be argued that much (if not most) of the trolling that Chris experienced since his discovery in 2007 was weening as well.

==See also==
* [[2012 Poster campaign]]
* [[4-cent garbage.com]]
* [[A-Logging]]
* [[CWCki]]
* [[Enablers]]
* [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]
* [[Kick the Autistic]]
* [[PVCC (Message Board)|PVCC]]
* [[Rollin' and Trollin']]
* [[Watchmen]] - The inverse of the Miscreants
* [[Weening]]
* [[White knight]]

==References==
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:''This article is about troll personas. For how trolls manipulated Chris, see [[Chris and manipulation]].''

{{Protip|If you're thinking about [[Weening|trying to troll Chris now as part of some zany scheme to get Chris to do something funny]], then don't. The golden age of trolling Chris was well over a decade ago and is never coming back, and [[Idea Guys|any attempt at]] [[Isabella Loretta Janke|reviving it]] has ended in disaster. Chris is a shell of the person he once was and is living in much more depressing circumstances than the ones that made him an infamous lolcow.}}

{{quote|That which can condemn the abnormally foolish is not the abnormally clever... That which can condemn the abnormally foolish is the normally foolish.|GK Chesterton}}
{{quote|...[T]hey are [[Chris and Anger|vicious]], [[Chris and reality|crazy]], [[Slow-in-the-minds|wickedly smart]] people.|[[Chris]] on trolls.<ref>[[Tomboys_And_Tomgirls_of_Virginia#Friendship_Issues|Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]]</ref>}}
{{quote|What a world we live in, with such trolls in it.|[[Bubbles]], [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]].}}

'''Trolls''' are various individuals of all races, colors, and creeds united under a common goal - to mess with the life of, and extract as many lulz from the [[Chris and the Internet|Internet]]'s most beloved and most hated [[autistic]] manchild, [[Chris Chan]], as possible. The organized effort to troll Chris began in earnest in 2007, and still has momentum going for it, even if it peaked after disbanding of the Classic-era trolls following the death of Chris's [[father]] in 2011.

Trolling schemes by these individuals have ranged from [[Manipulation|manipulating]] Chris into a ''Truman Show''-like existence, making him [[:Category:Videos with RAGE|rage on video]], making him take [[Nudes|pictures of himself unclothed]], accelerating the breaking of his sense of [[reality]], and more.

==Pre-ED==
It is notable that Chris was bullied in real life before his discovery by [[4-cent garbage.com|4chan]] and [[ED]]. It can be argued that the first known torment of Chris occurred when his lifelong-friend-who-no-longer-speaks-to-him, [[Sarah Nicole Hammer]], [[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares#Memories of childhood|locked him under the house]] when they were children. The next notable bullying occurred during the infamous mini-date with [[Hanna]] in [[2005]] which smashed his [[heart level]] to 15%. Around the same time, he was also trolled by a girl he contacted through [[MySpace]] named [[MySpace messages#Lindsay|Lindsay Kaye]]. There was also possible trolling of Chris through the guestbook on his website from as early as [[2003]], when "a hot redhead" said that she would meet him outside of [[PVCC]] (either this was epic trolling, or Chris put it on the guestbook himself). And let's not forget about [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and [[The GAMe PLACe]] hijinks.

But this was all child's play compared to what happened next....

==The Miscreants==
{{quote|Y'all are making me very nervous right now.|Chris on The Miscreants.<ref>[[Mumble 9]]</ref>}}

[[Image:REALChrisChanAndFriends.jpg|thumb|left|The Miscreants at their annual Ancient and Secret convention.]]
[[File:MiscreantsJury.png|thumb|left|The Miscreants on jury duty for Chris's [[Affair with Mother|misdeeds]].]]
[[Image:TapestryPickleMan.jpg|thumb|The Miscreants was an ancient order dating over a thousand years. In this lost scene from the Bayeux Tapestry, Christian's ancestor Geoffrey Weston the Feeble-Minded notes that he has been fooled by the "Man donning the Pickled Cucumber Suit."]]

'''The Miscreants''' were a group of people who trolled Chris from 2009 up until his father's death in 2011. [[Clyde Cash]] was the original leader of The Miscreants, which was styled after The Patriots, the shadowy cabal from the ''[[Metal Gear]]'' series who are revealed to be behind a conspiracy spanning decades, including all of the main incidents the protagonists go through. They claimed to be responsible for several unfortunate events in Chris's past, [[Chris and reality|which Chris seemingly believed]].

On 23 [[February 2009]], The Miscreants approached Chris in [[Mumble]] and informed him of their plan. Several [[Secret Weapon|"HA-HA, I got you!"]] videos were made, all with false information. To deal with these Internet bullies Chris resorted to [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 23rd, 2009|babbling incoherently]].

After the disappearance of Clyde Cash, the site was down for a few weeks, with the message that "Clyde's dead, baby." After that, the website returned, apparently re-uploaded by Vivian Gee. Part of the site description read "Name's Vivian. Guess I'm the new leader or some shit. Fuck y'all." On 28 [[June 2009]], the Miscreants set up shop at the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens]] message board.

While online wars have been waged, [[Man in the Pickle Suit|Men in Pickle Suits]] have also been deployed to ruin Chris in reality. These exploits have included stealing his [[Emily|date]], obtaining potentially life-ruining material, and generally being lulzy. They also seemed to treat [[Bob Chandler]] as one of their own.

While the group's explicit purpose, [[Mumble 9|according to Cash]], was to ensure that [[Chris and sex|Chris never got laid]] and forever remain a [[Virgin with rage]], that didn't stop them from [[Hooker incident|sending a bunch of prostitutes to]] [[14 Branchland Court|Chris's house]]. Nonetheless, Chris got the last laugh when [[Mia Hamm|he hired a prostitute]].

Since the death of Bob, the Miscreants have effectively disbanded, with pretty much everyone involved distancing themselves from Chris, and only a few (such as [[Surfshack Tito]]) continuing their efforts before eventually losing interest. Years after the fact, some have admitted that they took things too far when reflecting on this era of Christory, while others look back with a sense of smug satisfaction.

[[File:AdamStackhouse.jpg|left|80px|thumb|Adam Stackhouse]]

===[[Adam Stackhouse]]===

In [[2007]] Chris would enter the [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown]], in an attempt to win over [[Megan]]'s heart. [[Adam Stackhouse]] would win instead, due to his video being superior. This would prompt a [[Chris and anger|tard rage]], in which he created a fake webpage proclaiming himself the winner<ref>http://web.archive.org/web/20071108233910/http://members.aol.com/CWCSonichu/EPPromotions283.html</ref>, as well as [[CWC is Angry|a creepy video]] in which he shoots a photo of Adam and his sister with his [[Megatron Pistol]] in silence and exclaims his anger at the end.

[[File:ABL.png|left|80px|thumb|Alec Benson Leary]]

===[[Alec Benson Leary]]===
Creator of ''[[Asperchu]]'', a webcomic that was specifically designed to piss Chris off. This started a long war between ''[[Sonichu]]'' and the aforementioned Asperchu in which Alec and the [[Asperpedia Four]] caused the death of [[Simonla Rosechu]], placed ads for the [[Asperpedia]] on the [[CWCipedia]], and eventually took control of the CWCipedia and took it down. Alec and Chris exchanged a series of [[Alec Benson Leary calls|nine calls]] over the course of the war. Alec has also been responsible for other trollsome personas, including [[Lars]] and [[Jackie]].

[[Image:SirWilliamMaysOBE.jpg|left|80px|thumb|BILLY MAYS]]

===[[BILLY MAYS]]===
The infamous loud-mouthed salesman of the same name who types in ALL CAPS. He was declared the mayor of [[CWCville]] by Chris on 3 March 2009 while under pressure from [[BlueSpike#Max|Max]]. It is widely suspected that Chris himself had something to do with his untimely death.

===[[Blanca Weiss]]===
[[Image:Blanka.jpg|80px|thumb|Blanca's true identity.]]

"Blanca" was really a trio of trolls (RickyRicardo123, Ickeriss69, and Nurse Icky-chan) who tricked Chris into sending them nudes, and later his [[Medallions of Fail|Sonichu medallion]]. Ickeriss later uploaded a couple of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3Jr2ZktVfI videos] featuring the Sonichu medallion, including a video in which the medallion is destroyed.

Not to be confused with [[Trolls#Lordsillynipples|LordSillyNipples]], who used the Blanca identity to score the first nudes.

===[[BlueSpike]]===
[[File:Bluespikeohexploitable.png|left|80px|Jack Thaddeus]]
BlueSpike (AKA "LeonSpike", aka "Julie", aka "Max") is a [[Pedofork|thirteen-year-old boy]] who pretended to be Chris's [[sweetheart]], "[[Julie]]". He later revealed himself as a troll in a now infamous [[Julie Reveals Herself|hour-long phone call]], in which he berates Chris, and forces him to cut up his [[Sonichu medallion]] and shove it up his ass.

[[Image:BryanBash.jpg|thumb|left|80px|Bryan Bash (right) with your sister (left).]]

===[[Bryan Bash]]===
Bryan Bash is a close friend of [[Clyde Cash]]. He is the one who [[Hooker incident|sent hookers over to Chris's house]], as well as the person who called during the infamous [[Bob Walks In|"Bob Walks In"]] audio file, and is responsible for leaking [[CWCRockin4Way.jpg]]. Additionally, he leaked the [[Father Call]] and the [[Kacey and Liquid Call]] to [[/cwc/]] on 11 November [[2009]], and he has also leaked conversations between [[Chris]] and [[Jack Thaddeus]].

===[[Clyde Cash]]===

[[image:TheRealClydeCash.jpg|thumb|80px|right|Clyde Cash. The man. The legend. The guido.]]

The nefarious [[Clyde Cash]] is the most infamous and legendary of trolls. A vile and reprehensible fellow whose very name strikes fear and revulsion into Chris's clogged heart and inspires admiration from the souls of the people. He posed as [[Shigeru Miyamoto]], raped Chris's beloved [[PandaHalo]], and performed many more amazing feats about which songs shall be written and the minstrels shall sing of in the ages immemorial. Unfortunately it will not come to pass since Clyde is serving a life sentence for stealing the identity of Lee Hotti.

===[[Emily]]===

A brave soul who went on a date with Chris. She was later saved by the [[Man in the Pickle Suit|Jew in the Pickle Suit]].

[[File:Ahuvia.png|thumb|left|80px|Jack Thaddeus]]

===[[Jack Thaddeus]]===
The possible successor (and gay lover) of Clyde Cash and is responsible for various [[PS3#PlayStation Network|PSN]]-related trollings and also for the [[CWCipedia]] ads.

[[File:Jimmuh hill.jpg|thumb|80px|Jimmy Hill]]

===[[Jimmy Hill]]===
A British sportscaster. He claimed to be the true original creator of Sonichu, the first openly gay cartoon character which briefly became very popular in Europe in 2009.

===[[Jason Kendrick Howell]]===
The original creator of the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|ED]] page.

===[[The Man in the Pickle Suit]] ===
A real-life pickleman who answers to Clyde Cash. He saved Emily from the clutches of Chris.

[[Image:CChanSonichuCWC.jpg|thumb|left|80px|The [[TRUE and HONEST]] Chris]]

===[[Liquid Chris]]===
A [[YouTube]] troll who is known for doing a spot-on impersonation of Chris-chan. Within his saga, Liquid Chris is referred to as the [[TRUE and HONEST]] Chris-chan and creator of the popular comic character Sonichu, and Solid is referred to as an angry troll named [[Ian Brandon Anderson]], who made outlandish claims that he was the real Chris.

===[[Lordsillynipples]]===
A troll from [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|ED]] who was responsible for impersonating [[Blanca Weiss|Blanca]] and being the first to obtain the now [[Nudes|infamous Chris-chan noodz]] on 11 September 2008, along with [[Christian Weston Chandler...Yep, I'm on TV :)|Chris's DVD]]. She is also responsible for giving birth to the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] and for feeding Chris the infamous guido picture of [[Clyde Cash|Clyde]].

===[[Robert Simmons V]]===
A YouTube troll who managed to gain Chris's trust by showing him support and mirroring his life. Along with [[Church audio|visiting Chris's church]] and meeting [[Bob Chandler|Bob]], he also had a hand in organizing the [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript|Emily date]].

[[image:Tito 300.gif|thumb|80px|Surfshack Tito]]

===[[Shigeru Miyamoto]]===
Shigeru Miyamoto (Japanese: 宮本茂) is the creator of some of Nintendo's most legendary video game franchises such as ''Super Mario'', ''The Legend of Zelda'', and ''Star Fox''. He pretended to be interested in his [[sonichu|yellow Sonic abortion]]. It would later come to light that Miyamoto was a sockpuppet of Clyde.

===[[Surfshack Tito (troll)|Surfshack Tito]]===

An enigmatic troll who managed to invoke Chris's wrath on [[Surfshack Tito|two]] [[Tito Got No Luck Against We Brits, Irish and Scots!|separate]] occasions by hacking his PSN and taking the blame for ruining Chris's slim chances with [[The Wallflower]]. He was also involved in [[The MovingForward videos|the destruction]] of Chris's beloved [[PS3]].

[[image:TH.PNG|thumb|80px|left|Thorg]]
[[image:Vivian.jpg|thumb|80px|Vivian]]

===[[Thorg]]===
A troll responsible for creating a [[20 December 2009|slanderous billboard]] in 2009 and exposing [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]] in 2011. A major part of Chris's 2011 [[Calling Out|blackmail campaign]].

===[[Vivian Gee]]===
The creator of the ''Sonichu'' [[audiobooks]] and various other Chris-related videos and cousin of Clyde Cash. A former white knight who turned troll after she realized Chris was a [[Vivian Gee E-mails|hopeless, thick-skulled moron]]. She and Clyde Cash were both personas created by the same troll.

==Post-Bob's death==
Following Bob's death in 2011, the then-current group of trolls disbanded to give Chris room to grieve. In the years that followed, new trolls would eventually crop up.

===[[Thetan]]===
Impersonated Chris's former high school classmates.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/6-22-chris-at-too-many-games-convention.44691/post-3494509</ref>

===[[Catherine]] and [[Cousin Al]]===
Catherine is a fake love interest who conspired with [[Marvin]] by manipulating [[OKCupid]] results to match with Chris's.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-2798964 (archive: https://archive.fo/0wRXL)</ref> She used this influence for another sweetheart saga which included meeting him in real life to surreptitiously record his conversations.

Cousin Al is another associate of Catherine's who joined her in the meetings and posted the recorded conversations to the [[CWCki Forums]]. He is also known for rummaging through Chris's trash to find and post the [[Manchester High Leaks]] to the forum<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/new-leak-s-15jun2014.3897/ (archive: https://archive.fo/AcM0p)</ref> (his username would later be changed by moderators to "garbageraider" to reflect this).

===[[Jeff/Francine]]===
The mysterious creator of [[CWC Adult Chronicles]]. Targeted by Chris for selling unofficial Sonichu merchandise and in a blatant act of [[hypocrisy]], was made fun of for her transition.

===[[Johan]]===
An ex-gay porn star who challenged Chris for the rights to impregnate [[Sam and Ellen|two lesbians]]. After a sex-off, Johan's superior body and non-bent duck won them over.

===[[Jessica Quinn]]===
A former white knight who played the long con by becoming his sweetheart. Known for her fat fetishism before ditching him and coming back and forth to toy with him.

==Fantasy Enablers==
Beginning in October 2017, the [[Idea Guys]] exploited Chris's fantasy [[coping]] mechanisms to gain power over him. Since then, numerous [[enablers]] have used similar methods.

===[[Idea Guys]]===
A group of trolls whose actions rivaled and arguably surpassed that of BlueSpike. They remain infamous for how they manipulated and brainwashed Chris over a period of several months, coercing him into performing degrading acts and extorting him out of thousands. The Idea Guys hastily vanished after the emergence of the [[Guard Dogs]], who set about attempting to reverse all the Idea Guys had wrought. Nonetheless, Chris maintains many of their influences in the current day, chief among them the beliefs that he's a [[CPU Blue Heart|CPU goddess]], the [[Dimensional Merge]], and his imaginary [[polyamorous marriage]].

===[[Teen Troon Squad]]===
A group of transgender teenagers who posed as his friends. They took advantage of Chris's faltering sense of reality by feeding him information on the [[Dimensional Merge]] and taking over his Twitter account. Rumored to have given Chris marijuana.

===[[Jacob Sockness]]===
A mysterious man from San Francisco, California, who aimed to manipulate Chris into a relationship. He had primarily served to only further enable the beliefs planted in Chris's head by the [[Idea Guys]], as well as bolster Chris's beliefs in the [[Dimensional Merge]]. After Sockness stated that he was taking a train across the country to meet with Chris in person, Chris insisted that Sockness stop after realizing Sockness was a legitimate danger. While Sockness relented and went back to California, he still ended up continuing to try and force his way back into Chris's life on repeated occasions, only to be aggressively rejected by Chris in late November 2019. Despite this, Sockness made several more attempts at returning. Eventually being repeatedly chastised by Chris on [[Twitter]] in [[July 2020]], and finally being permanently blocked by Chris by the end of [[August 2020]].

===[[Ben Saint]]===
A webcomic artist who expressed an interest in Chris two years prior. Ben entered into a squabble with Chris after getting him and [[Night Star]] involved in his latest comic series promoting his latest project, ''Endless War''. The interaction would then lead to a battle over the canonicity over the events of the comic, with the two sides providing [[Sonichu Special 7|contradictory narratives]].

===[[Larry Vaughn]]===
A troll who attempted to somewhat follow in the footsteps of the Idea Guys. His grandiose plans of using [[Magi-Chan]] as a hostage to make Chris drive to Disney World were stopped before they could begin, but Vaughn did manage to have Chris send bizarre Twitter DMs to various individuals.

==[[Sonichu_(character)|Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]]==
While there's no definitive proof of these two being trolls, they have been known to dispense advice for Chris from time to time, especially on the subject of relationships.<ref name="Jackie e 16">[[Jackie_E-mails_16]]</ref> Considering the [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|results derived from said advice]], one cannot help but wonder about their true motivations.

==Devil Trolls==
[[File:ModNation TrollFemale.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Featured in ''[[ModNation Racers]]''.]]

Aside from the several notable figures above, the '''Devil Trolls''' are mysterious, [[Image:DevilTroll.jpg|thumb|200px|Artist's depiction.]] evil creatures that appear in Chris's ''[[Sonichu]]'' comic series. These creatures are first mentioned in [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]] and make their first full appearance in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]].

[[File:Devil_troll_artistic_interpretation.png|thumb|right|150px|Artistic recreation.]]

Like many beings within Chris's comics, the Devil Trolls are inspired by his encounters in real life. Devil Trolls represent the various trolls that have given him such [[stress]] over his lifetime. This is shown when Chris encounters a set of them attacking a room containing his stuff from one of his earlier websites.

The Devil Trolls make their first mentioned appearance as some sort of grass protrusions taking away the fallen "[[IBAChandler]]" after Sonichu defeats him in ''Sonichu'' #9. They make their full appearance in ''Sonichu'' #10, as [[Chris-Chan Sonichu]] encounters them inside a room containing his pictures from his various websites. Seeing as Chris can't create anything without [[Things Chris has ripped off|ripping off original designs]], Devil Trolls resemble [[Wikipedia:Troll doll|those old Troll toys]], minus their gems, with long tails and demon-like wings. They also sport sharp teeth.

==Motivations==
===Chris's perspective===
Chris himself has a more simplistic view of what motivates his enemies. When a [[Mailbag]] correspondent asked him to explain why he's trolled, and why so many people seem to hate him, Chris had this ingenious response:

{{quote|"[[Chris and English|Tehy're]] just jealous that they did not think of [[Sonichu]] first, or that I am more [[Chris and art|Artistically Talented]] than they are."|[[Chris]], [[Mailbag 5|Mailbag #5]]}}

[[File:Trollll.PNG|thumb|Drawing of a troll appearing in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]].]]

This is consistent with the advice given many children who are harrassed in real life: that bullies are merely jealous of you, and want to see you react unfavorably, when in reality, bullies abuse others for many different motives, jealousy being only one of them - and, internet trolls typically do what they do for their own amusement, and not always out of some personal slight against their target. Since Chris [[Count Graduon|never moved past]] [[Manchester High School|high school]] mentally, he still believes he is hated because [[Ego|he is so much better than everyone else.]] [[File:Trollmiia.png|200px|thumb|artistic recreation @miiashapphire]]

From his own attempts to illustrate trolling, it's obvious that Chris has no concept of how it works. When he tried his hand at impersonation, he thought that we'd all be trolled if he pretended to be an epic troll, but then [[Jack|a troll]] saw through his lie and forced him to admit that he is, indeed, a fat idiot. Chris believes that trolling has two steps: pretend to be someone you're not and then "troll" someone by revealing who you really are. [[Silvana]], a character based on his perception of forum trolls who claim to be people they aren't, thinks it's hilarious to pretend to be [[Meg Griffin]], kiss Chris, and then transform once she's out of sight. As a result, Chris walks away happy, unaware that he just kissed a tranny, defeating the entire point of "trolling" him.

Recently, it seems that he's decided that the majority of his hated trolls are actually homosexuals, combining his two major hates into one massive force of nature. The earliest this is seen is [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Mailbag&oldid=3208|a message he wrote] in his Mailbag section, exploding in rage over an added [[Twitter]] and how they could talk about him behind his back. Even more, in his [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia Page)|CWCipedia article on The Wallflower]], Chris has also decided that the trolls are also [[niggos|black]].

Unsurprisingly, Chris also considers trolling a ''crime'', and has somehow dedicated himself to stop trolling. However, Chris's views on trolling are very very skewed, as he believes that ''all'' trolling is equal to what he had done to him. A [[EXCLUSIVE Manchester High School 2000 Reunion Required NOW|recent video]] actually has him tell people how to act on the Internet [[Chris and hypocrisy|mere moments after revealing his real name, address, and phone number]].

As the years passed, Chris's take on trolls has erupted into a massive flight of fancy. Because he has been refused admittance to [[The GAMe PLACe]], Chris has now proclaimed that the entire store is a massive front for Internet trolling, with [[Michael Snyder]] as the ringleader of it all. As well, he seems to have chosen the [[CWCki Forums]] as a major gathering place for trolls.

===His parents' perspective===
The [[Matthew Noble call]] in August 2010 revealed some interesting insights into Bob and Barbara Chandler's interpretation of what has happened to their son over the years. Chris's parents are apparently convinced that the entire Chris-chan Trolldom grew out of a conspiracy by Michael Snyder, two alleged homosexuals who frequented The GAMe PLACe (possibly [[Lucas]] and [[Mimms]]), and ''[[Megan Schroeder]]'', who worked to get Chris banned from the store and are involved with a general effort to harass and torment Chris. When speaking with Ivy, Bob described Megan with words like "cruel" and "German". Bob was convinced that it is all because they are persecuting Chris for being autistic, while in reality he was scaring away customers with his behavior and sexually harassing Megan.

It's useful to try to consider things from his parents' point of view. To begin with, there ''is'' a worldwide conspiracy, more or less, to pester the Chandlers, violate their privacy, drive their son to do ridiculous things, and otherwise fuck with them in a myriad of ways. Bob and Barbara are bombarded by prank phone calls all day, nude photos, God knows what else arrive in their mail, signs mysteriously appearing on their lawn, Chris having [[Kacey and Liquid Call|angry screaming matches]] with people they've never met on the telephone, Chris once drove off to Ohio to meet [[Julie|a woman who didn't exist]], and so on.

Being Chris's parents must be a fairly surreal experience at this point, and given that they belong to a much older generation, they can hardly be expected to develop the grasp of Internet social phenomena that they'd need to properly understand their situation. The GAMe PLACe, however small a piece of the bigger picture it may be, is the most significant real, physical element of Chris's adventures in trolldom that they've been exposed to. As ridiculous as their theory may seem, it's probably the best they can do as far as making sense of what has happened and continues to happen to them.

==Chris the troll==
While the idea of everyone's favorite manchild becoming the one thing he hates seems kind of farfetched, if not laughably ironic, it actually isn't too far off as one might think. Because of his horrendous misconceptions of what he thinks his trolls does, Chris believes that, if given a new target, Chris's trolls would gladly stop attacking him and go after that new target. In the past, Chris has tried to deflect his trolls towards people like [[Joshua Martinez]], [[Michael Snyder]] and even [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]]. However, Chris has been so entrenched with his trolls and viewers that the idea of going after someone else doesn't seem feasible anymore.

As well, Chris has even attempted to troll his own trolls. One of the first known attempts was the [[Rollin' and Trollin']] video, claiming that he had pulled the most epic prank on the Internet, only to turn around the very next day and reveal that it was a lie. [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], as mentioned above, had his comic book self thinking he had kissed [[Meg Griffin]], not knowing that it was actually [[Silvana]]. As well, on 28 [[April 2012]], he attempted to convince his trolls that he had decided to return to the mall and resume his [[Love Quest]], armed with his [[Attraction Sign]]. Again, he revealed the next day that it was a lie and that he had gotten [[ban]]ned from the mall just before he decided to pull it.

Interestingly, Chris's perception of being a troll is less about trolling to get a rise out of someone and more of attempting to pull a prank. His "return" to the Love Quest is probably the biggest indicator of that. Chris let his trolls know through his [[Facebook]], then waited a day before shouting "SURPRISE!". As well, he also believed that if someone reads his message, he's going to assume that everyone has and that they are going to descend on the mall like a bad flash mob just to find Chris. Too bad everyone, unlike Chris, has lives of their own.

However, if there is one person that Chris himself has successfully trolled, without a shadow of a doubt, it's ''himself''. Proof of this can be directly pointed to his [[Ego#Surrendering Information|bad habit of surrendering information]] about himself, no matter how [[Tomgirl|embarrassing]], [[Nudes|demeaning]], or [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|downright]] [[Dox|stupid]] giving out said tidbits of himself would be. Chris often screams at his trolls for not leaving him alone, but, aside from the fact that his antics only add more fuel to the fire, he always fails to realise that if he didn't give them ammo to begin with, he wouldn't have ended up in this predicament. A shining example of this would be the [[2013 Imgur Leak]]. Chris could have ranted about the trolls, and most would have shrugged and assumed that [[Chris and anger|he's just being angry in typical Chris-Chan fashion.]] That is, until Chris revealed the reason ''why'' he got upset, inadvertently revealing the Facebook posts he was keeping a secret, as well as some [[Death Threats|very unsavory information]] that could get him arrested if taken seriously.

It just goes to show you, nobody trolls Chris better than Chris. Chris is the type to not only shoot himself in the foot, but reload, fire again, and repeat the cycle while blaming the trolls. He just never learns.

==Chris's relationship with the trolls==
Although he would never admit it, Chris eventually developed something of a love-hate relationship with the trolls, which became clear during the Liquid Saga. When Clyde trolled Liquid Chris in a phone call, Chris attempted to redirect Clyde to himself, angered by Liquid's slanderous attempt at stealing his trolls. In an E-mail to Vivian, Chris also [[Vivian Gee E-mails, 2009#4 August|thanked the trolls]] for documenting [[Honest Content|the information he revealed to them]] and [[Lie|allowing him to mature emotionally]]. Although the trolls were a nuisance to Chris, their antics were far more thrilling than Chris's hopelessly shitty yet mundane lifestyle, which left him unfulfilled and [[Persecution complex|desperate for adversity]]. The trolls served as black-and-white antagonists for Chris, giving him a perceived purpose in life and allowing him to live out his [[Sonichu (comic)|fantasies]] as [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|a hero]] [[Jerkops|pitted]] [[Mary Lee Walsh|against]] [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc|one-dimensional]] [[Count Graduon|villains]]. This was likely a factor in Chris's susceptibility to trolling.

Eventually, Chris's desire for a more exciting life of heroes fighting against villains was fully exploited by the [[Idea Guys]] and [[other enablers]]. As a result, Chris now believes that he ''already'' leads the same life as his fantasy counterpart, and has lost interest in traditional trolls.

==Today==
:''Main article: [[Weening]]''
Since the death of [[Bob Chandler|Chris's father]], the [[Destruction Of Chris's House|loss of his home]] and [[Financhu Crisis|his plummet to the breadline]], Chris has changed profoundly. No longer is he the [[naïve]], [[Chris and fashion|clown-shirted]], [[Red Letter CWC Certified Day|indifferent]] [[Ego|egotist]] ED discovered in 2007; instead, he is a jaded, chronically depressed, [[Tomgirl|cross-dressing]] child trapped in an adult's body, who is not as susceptible to, capable of dealing with, and arguably, as deserving of trolling as he used to be.

Many of those who continue to follow his activities are beginning to opine that he has suffered enough, and that active trolling, even where it is successful, doesn't produce the results it used to, takes more effort due to his inflated paranoia, tends to lead to small groups monopolizing Chris and hoarding the information they gather (as happened with [[Blanca Weiss|Blanca]] and [[Catherine]]), and in some cases, causes needless emotional damage to Chris. For example, the revelation that Chris's latest girlfriend, Catherine, was yet another troll persona in early [[November 2014]] provoked disgust and disappointment, as many felt that not only was it [[Sonichu (character)|unoriginal]] and [[JULAAAY|no longer funny]], but the trolls had spent weeks, if not months stringing him along and toying with him, including tricking him into [[I Love You, Catherine|grovelling]] for "Catherine"'s continued affection. Many felt this amounted to emotional abuse of an already broken and miserable shell of a man, some were even disappointed as they felt that after all Chris had gone through, he deserved a lucky break, and a real relationship for a change.

Further, this was accompanied by the revelation that the same group of trolls had also fabricated Chris's denunciation by his [[Gal pal|high school friends]], leading to many questioning the morality of impersonating Chris's old friends just to get a reaction out of him, and of course, the terrifying [[CWCville|Orwellian nightmare]] that such trolling has left Chris in, as virtually every aspect of Chris's social life is [[Chris and manipulation|engineered by trolls]] and he has no way of knowing what or who is real – [[Savannah Chandler|even his own family]].

Chris's transformation has also coincided with, and perhaps influenced, a shift in trolling. Active, chronic trolling such as Chris has experienced is now generally looked down upon as [[weening]] and attention whoring, instead it has become more fashionable to leave a lolcow like Chris to their own devices for the most part, and observe, rather than continually provoke. Proponents note that many major events in Chris's life have happened independent of troll influence, such as [[2014 house fire|him burning down his own home]], his various outings to [[Charlottesville, VA|Charlottesville]] and beyond (and many subsequent IRL bans), his bizarre dealings with [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and of course, the infamous [[28 October 2011]] and [[26 December 2014]] incidents. It can also be argued that much (if not most) of the trolling that Chris experienced since his discovery in 2007 was weening as well.

==See also==
* [[2012 Poster campaign]]
* [[4-cent garbage.com]]
* [[A-Logging]]
* [[CWCki]]
* [[Enablers]]
* [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]
* [[Kick the Autistic]]
* [[PVCC (Message Board)|PVCC]]
* [[Rollin' and Trollin']]
* [[Watchmen]] - The inverse of the Miscreants
* [[Weening]]
* [[White knight]]

==References==
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:''This article is about troll personas. For how trolls manipulated Chris, see [[Chris and manipulation]].''

{{Protip|If you're thinking about [[Weening|trying to troll Chris now as part of some zany scheme to get Chris to do something funny]], then don't. The golden age of trolling Chris was well over a decade ago and is never coming back, and [[Idea Guys|any attempt at]] [[Isabella Loretta Janke|reviving it]] has ended in disaster. Chris is a shell of the person he once was and is living in much more depressing circumstances than the ones that made him an infamous lolcow.}}

{{quote|That which can condemn the abnormally foolish is not the abnormally clever... That which can condemn the abnormally foolish is the normally foolish.|GK Chesterton}}
{{quote|...[T]hey are [[Chris and Anger|vicious]], [[Chris and reality|crazy]], [[Slow-in-the-minds|wickedly smart]] people.|[[Chris]] on trolls.<ref>[[Tomboys_And_Tomgirls_of_Virginia#Friendship_Issues|Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]]</ref>}}
{{quote|What a world we live in, with such trolls in it.|[[Bubbles]], [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]].}}

'''Trolls''' are various individuals of all races, colors, and creeds united under a common goal - to mess with the life of, and extract as many lulz from the [[Chris and the Internet|Internet]]'s most beloved and most hated [[autistic]] manchild, [[Chris Chan]], as possible. The organized effort to troll Chris began in earnest in 2007, and still has momentum going for it, even if it peaked after disbanding of the Classic-era trolls following the death of Chris's [[father]] in 2011.

Trolling schemes by these individuals have ranged from [[Manipulation|manipulating]] Chris into a ''Truman Show''-like existence, making him [[:Category:Videos with RAGE|rage on video]], making him take [[Nudes|pictures of himself unclothed]], accelerating the breaking of his sense of [[reality]], and more.

==Pre-ED==
It is notable that Chris was bullied in real life before his discovery by [[4-cent garbage.com|4chan]] and [[ED]]. It can be argued that the first known torment of Chris occurred when his lifelong-friend-who-no-longer-speaks-to-him, [[Sarah Nicole Hammer]], [[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares#Memories of childhood|locked him under the house]] when they were children. The next notable bullying occurred during the infamous mini-date with [[Hanna]] in [[2005]] which smashed his [[heart level]] to 15%. Around the same time, he was also trolled by a girl he contacted through [[MySpace]] named [[MySpace messages#Lindsay|Lindsay Kaye]]. There was also possible trolling of Chris through the guestbook on his website from as early as [[2003]], when "a hot redhead" said that she would meet him outside of [[PVCC]] (either this was epic trolling, or Chris put it on the guestbook himself). And let's not forget about [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and [[The GAMe PLACe]] hijinks.

But this was all child's play compared to what happened next....

==The Miscreants==
{{quote|Y'all are making me very nervous right now.|Chris on The Miscreants.<ref>[[Mumble 9]]</ref>}}

[[Image:REALChrisChanAndFriends.jpg|thumb|left|The Miscreants at their annual Ancient and Secret convention.]]
[[File:MiscreantsJury.png|thumb|left|The Miscreants on jury duty for Chris's [[Affair with Mother|misdeeds]].]]
[[Image:TapestryPickleMan.jpg|thumb|The Miscreants was an ancient order dating over a thousand years. In this lost scene from the Bayeux Tapestry, Christian's ancestor Geoffrey Weston the Feeble-Minded notes that he has been fooled by the "Man donning the Pickled Cucumber Suit."]]

'''The Miscreants''' were a group of people who trolled Chris from 2009 up until his father's death in 2011. [[Clyde Cash]] was the original leader of The Miscreants, which was styled after The Patriots, the shadowy cabal from the ''[[Metal Gear]]'' series who are revealed to be behind a conspiracy spanning decades, including all of the main incidents the protagonists go through. They claimed to be responsible for several unfortunate events in Chris's past, [[Chris and reality|which Chris seemingly believed]].

On 23 [[February 2009]], The Miscreants approached Chris in [[Mumble]] and informed him of their plan. Several [[Secret Weapon|"HA-HA, I got you!"]] videos were made, all with false information. To deal with these Internet bullies Chris resorted to [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 23rd, 2009|babbling incoherently]].

After the disappearance of Clyde Cash, the site was down for a few weeks, with the message that "Clyde's dead, baby." After that, the website returned, apparently re-uploaded by Vivian Gee. Part of the site description read "Name's Vivian. Guess I'm the new leader or some shit. Fuck y'all." On 28 [[June 2009]], the Miscreants set up shop at the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens]] message board.

While online wars have been waged, [[Man in the Pickle Suit|Men in Pickle Suits]] have also been deployed to ruin Chris in reality. These exploits have included stealing his [[Emily|date]], obtaining potentially life-ruining material, and generally being lulzy. They also seemed to treat [[Bob Chandler]] as one of their own.

While the group's explicit purpose, [[Mumble 9|according to Cash]], was to ensure that [[Chris and sex|Chris never got laid]] and forever remain a [[Virgin with rage]], that didn't stop them from [[Hooker incident|sending a bunch of prostitutes to]] [[14 Branchland Court|Chris's house]]. Nonetheless, Chris got the last laugh when [[Mia Hamm|he hired a prostitute]].

Since the death of Bob, the Miscreants have effectively disbanded, with pretty much everyone involved distancing themselves from Chris, and only a few (such as [[Surfshack Tito]]) continuing their efforts before eventually losing interest. Years after the fact, some have admitted that they took things too far when reflecting on this era of Christory, while others look back with a sense of smug satisfaction.

[[File:AdamStackhouse.jpg|left|80px|thumb|Adam Stackhouse]]

===[[Adam Stackhouse]]===

In [[2007]] Chris would enter the [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown]], in an attempt to win over [[Megan]]'s heart. [[Adam Stackhouse]] would win instead, due to his video being superior. This would prompt a [[Chris and anger|tard rage]], in which he created a fake webpage proclaiming himself the winner<ref>http://web.archive.org/web/20071108233910/http://members.aol.com/CWCSonichu/EPPromotions283.html</ref>, as well as [[CWC is Angry|a creepy video]] in which he shoots a photo of Adam and his sister with his [[Megatron Pistol]] in silence and exclaims his anger at the end.

[[File:ABL.png|left|80px|thumb|Alec Benson Leary]]

===[[Alec Benson Leary]]===
Creator of ''[[Asperchu]]'', a webcomic that was specifically designed to piss Chris off. This started a long war between ''[[Sonichu]]'' and the aforementioned Asperchu in which Alec and the [[Asperpedia Four]] caused the death of [[Simonla Rosechu]], placed ads for the [[Asperpedia]] on the [[CWCipedia]], and eventually took control of the CWCipedia and took it down. Alec and Chris exchanged a series of [[Alec Benson Leary calls|nine calls]] over the course of the war. Alec has also been responsible for other trollsome personas, including [[Lars]] and [[Jackie]].

[[Image:SirWilliamMaysOBE.jpg|left|80px|thumb|BILLY MAYS]]

===[[BILLY MAYS]]===
The infamous loud-mouthed salesman of the same name who types in ALL CAPS. He was declared the mayor of [[CWCville]] by Chris on 3 March 2009 while under pressure from [[BlueSpike#Max|Max]]. It is widely suspected that Chris himself had something to do with his untimely death.

===[[Blanca Weiss]]===
[[Image:Blanka.jpg|80px|thumb|Blanca's true identity.]]

"Blanca" was really a trio of trolls (RickyRicardo123, Ickeriss69, and Nurse Icky-chan) who tricked Chris into sending them nudes, and later his [[Medallions of Fail|Sonichu medallion]]. Ickeriss later uploaded a couple of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3Jr2ZktVfI videos] featuring the Sonichu medallion, including a video in which the medallion is destroyed.

Not to be confused with [[Trolls#Lordsillynipples|LordSillyNipples]], who used the Blanca identity to score the first nudes.

===[[BlueSpike]]===
[[File:Bluespikeohexploitable.png|left|80px|Jack Thaddeus]]
BlueSpike (AKA "LeonSpike", aka "Julie", aka "Max") is a [[Pedofork|thirteen-year-old boy]] who pretended to be Chris's [[sweetheart]] "Julie". He later revealed himself as a troll in a now infamous [[Julie Reveals Herself|hour-long audio recording]] in which he berates Christian and makes him stick his Sonichu medallion up his ass.

[[Image:BryanBash.jpg|thumb|left|80px|Bryan Bash (right) with your sister (left).]]

===[[Bryan Bash]]===
Bryan Bash is a close friend of [[Clyde Cash]]. He is the one who [[Hooker incident|sent hookers over to Chris's house]], as well as the person who called during the infamous [[Bob Walks In|"Bob Walks In"]] audio file, and is responsible for leaking [[CWCRockin4Way.jpg]]. Additionally, he leaked the [[Father Call]] and the [[Kacey and Liquid Call]] to [[/cwc/]] on 11 November [[2009]], and he has also leaked conversations between [[Chris]] and [[Jack Thaddeus]].

===[[Clyde Cash]]===

[[image:TheRealClydeCash.jpg|thumb|80px|right|Clyde Cash. The man. The legend. The guido.]]

The nefarious [[Clyde Cash]] is the most infamous and legendary of trolls. A vile and reprehensible fellow whose very name strikes fear and revulsion into Chris's clogged heart and inspires admiration from the souls of the people. He posed as [[Shigeru Miyamoto]], raped Chris's beloved [[PandaHalo]], and performed many more amazing feats about which songs shall be written and the minstrels shall sing of in the ages immemorial. Unfortunately it will not come to pass since Clyde is serving a life sentence for stealing the identity of Lee Hotti.

===[[Emily]]===

A brave soul who went on a date with Chris. She was later saved by the [[Man in the Pickle Suit|Jew in the Pickle Suit]].

[[File:Ahuvia.png|thumb|left|80px|Jack Thaddeus]]

===[[Jack Thaddeus]]===
The possible successor (and gay lover) of Clyde Cash and is responsible for various [[PS3#PlayStation Network|PSN]]-related trollings and also for the [[CWCipedia]] ads.

[[File:Jimmuh hill.jpg|thumb|80px|Jimmy Hill]]

===[[Jimmy Hill]]===
A British sportscaster. He claimed to be the true original creator of Sonichu, the first openly gay cartoon character which briefly became very popular in Europe in 2009.

===[[Jason Kendrick Howell]]===
The original creator of the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|ED]] page.

===[[The Man in the Pickle Suit]] ===
A real-life pickleman who answers to Clyde Cash. He saved Emily from the clutches of Chris.

[[Image:CChanSonichuCWC.jpg|thumb|left|80px|The [[TRUE and HONEST]] Chris]]

===[[Liquid Chris]]===
A [[YouTube]] troll who is known for doing a spot-on impersonation of Chris-chan. Within his saga, Liquid Chris is referred to as the [[TRUE and HONEST]] Chris-chan and creator of the popular comic character Sonichu, and Solid is referred to as an angry troll named [[Ian Brandon Anderson]], who made outlandish claims that he was the real Chris.

===[[Lordsillynipples]]===
A troll from [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|ED]] who was responsible for impersonating [[Blanca Weiss|Blanca]] and being the first to obtain the now [[Nudes|infamous Chris-chan noodz]] on 11 September 2008, along with [[Christian Weston Chandler...Yep, I'm on TV :)|Chris's DVD]]. She is also responsible for giving birth to the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] and for feeding Chris the infamous guido picture of [[Clyde Cash|Clyde]].

===[[Robert Simmons V]]===
A YouTube troll who managed to gain Chris's trust by showing him support and mirroring his life. Along with [[Church audio|visiting Chris's church]] and meeting [[Bob Chandler|Bob]], he also had a hand in organizing the [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript|Emily date]].

[[image:Tito 300.gif|thumb|80px|Surfshack Tito]]

===[[Shigeru Miyamoto]]===
Shigeru Miyamoto (Japanese: 宮本茂) is the creator of some of Nintendo's most legendary video game franchises such as ''Super Mario'', ''The Legend of Zelda'', and ''Star Fox''. He pretended to be interested in his [[sonichu|yellow Sonic abortion]]. It would later come to light that Miyamoto was a sockpuppet of Clyde.

===[[Surfshack Tito (troll)|Surfshack Tito]]===

An enigmatic troll who managed to invoke Chris's wrath on [[Surfshack Tito|two]] [[Tito Got No Luck Against We Brits, Irish and Scots!|separate]] occasions by hacking his PSN and taking the blame for ruining Chris's slim chances with [[The Wallflower]]. He was also involved in [[The MovingForward videos|the destruction]] of Chris's beloved [[PS3]].

[[image:TH.PNG|thumb|80px|left|Thorg]]
[[image:Vivian.jpg|thumb|80px|Vivian]]

===[[Thorg]]===
A troll responsible for creating a [[20 December 2009|slanderous billboard]] in 2009 and exposing [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]] in 2011. A major part of Chris's 2011 [[Calling Out|blackmail campaign]].

===[[Vivian Gee]]===
The creator of the ''Sonichu'' [[audiobooks]] and various other Chris-related videos and cousin of Clyde Cash. A former white knight who turned troll after she realized Chris was a [[Vivian Gee E-mails|hopeless, thick-skulled moron]]. She and Clyde Cash were both personas created by the same troll.

==Post-Bob's death==
Following Bob's death in 2011, the then-current group of trolls disbanded to give Chris room to grieve. In the years that followed, new trolls would eventually crop up.

===[[Thetan]]===
Impersonated Chris's former high school classmates.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/6-22-chris-at-too-many-games-convention.44691/post-3494509</ref>

===[[Catherine]] and [[Cousin Al]]===
Catherine is a fake love interest who conspired with [[Marvin]] by manipulating [[OKCupid]] results to match with Chris's.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-2798964 (archive: https://archive.fo/0wRXL)</ref> She used this influence for another sweetheart saga which included meeting him in real life to surreptitiously record his conversations.

Cousin Al is another associate of Catherine's who joined her in the meetings and posted the recorded conversations to the [[CWCki Forums]]. He is also known for rummaging through Chris's trash to find and post the [[Manchester High Leaks]] to the forum<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/new-leak-s-15jun2014.3897/ (archive: https://archive.fo/AcM0p)</ref> (his username would later be changed by moderators to "garbageraider" to reflect this).

===[[Jeff/Francine]]===
The mysterious creator of [[CWC Adult Chronicles]]. Targeted by Chris for selling unofficial Sonichu merchandise and in a blatant act of [[hypocrisy]], was made fun of for her transition.

===[[Johan]]===
An ex-gay porn star who challenged Chris for the rights to impregnate [[Sam and Ellen|two lesbians]]. After a sex-off, Johan's superior body and non-bent duck won them over.

===[[Jessica Quinn]]===
A former white knight who played the long con by becoming his sweetheart. Known for her fat fetishism before ditching him and coming back and forth to toy with him.

==Fantasy Enablers==
Beginning in October 2017, the [[Idea Guys]] exploited Chris's fantasy [[coping]] mechanisms to gain power over him. Since then, numerous [[enablers]] have used similar methods.

===[[Idea Guys]]===
A group of trolls whose actions rivaled and arguably surpassed that of BlueSpike. They remain infamous for how they manipulated and brainwashed Chris over a period of several months, coercing him into performing degrading acts and extorting him out of thousands. The Idea Guys hastily vanished after the emergence of the [[Guard Dogs]], who set about attempting to reverse all the Idea Guys had wrought. Nonetheless, Chris maintains many of their influences in the current day, chief among them the beliefs that he's a [[CPU Blue Heart|CPU goddess]], the [[Dimensional Merge]], and his imaginary [[polyamorous marriage]].

===[[Teen Troon Squad]]===
A group of transgender teenagers who posed as his friends. They took advantage of Chris's faltering sense of reality by feeding him information on the [[Dimensional Merge]] and taking over his Twitter account. Rumored to have given Chris marijuana.

===[[Jacob Sockness]]===
A mysterious man from San Francisco, California, who aimed to manipulate Chris into a relationship. He had primarily served to only further enable the beliefs planted in Chris's head by the [[Idea Guys]], as well as bolster Chris's beliefs in the [[Dimensional Merge]]. After Sockness stated that he was taking a train across the country to meet with Chris in person, Chris insisted that Sockness stop after realizing Sockness was a legitimate danger. While Sockness relented and went back to California, he still ended up continuing to try and force his way back into Chris's life on repeated occasions, only to be aggressively rejected by Chris in late November 2019. Despite this, Sockness made several more attempts at returning. Eventually being repeatedly chastised by Chris on [[Twitter]] in [[July 2020]], and finally being permanently blocked by Chris by the end of [[August 2020]].

===[[Ben Saint]]===
A webcomic artist who expressed an interest in Chris two years prior. Ben entered into a squabble with Chris after getting him and [[Night Star]] involved in his latest comic series promoting his latest project, ''Endless War''. The interaction would then lead to a battle over the canonicity over the events of the comic, with the two sides providing [[Sonichu Special 7|contradictory narratives]].

===[[Larry Vaughn]]===
A troll who attempted to somewhat follow in the footsteps of the Idea Guys. His grandiose plans of using [[Magi-Chan]] as a hostage to make Chris drive to Disney World were stopped before they could begin, but Vaughn did manage to have Chris send bizarre Twitter DMs to various individuals.

==[[Sonichu_(character)|Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]]==
While there's no definitive proof of these two being trolls, they have been known to dispense advice for Chris from time to time, especially on the subject of relationships.<ref name="Jackie e 16">[[Jackie_E-mails_16]]</ref> Considering the [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|results derived from said advice]], one cannot help but wonder about their true motivations.

==Devil Trolls==
[[File:ModNation TrollFemale.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Featured in ''[[ModNation Racers]]''.]]

Aside from the several notable figures above, the '''Devil Trolls''' are mysterious, [[Image:DevilTroll.jpg|thumb|200px|Artist's depiction.]] evil creatures that appear in Chris's ''[[Sonichu]]'' comic series. These creatures are first mentioned in [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]] and make their first full appearance in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]].

[[File:Devil_troll_artistic_interpretation.png|thumb|right|150px|Artistic recreation.]]

Like many beings within Chris's comics, the Devil Trolls are inspired by his encounters in real life. Devil Trolls represent the various trolls that have given him such [[stress]] over his lifetime. This is shown when Chris encounters a set of them attacking a room containing his stuff from one of his earlier websites.

The Devil Trolls make their first mentioned appearance as some sort of grass protrusions taking away the fallen "[[IBAChandler]]" after Sonichu defeats him in ''Sonichu'' #9. They make their full appearance in ''Sonichu'' #10, as [[Chris-Chan Sonichu]] encounters them inside a room containing his pictures from his various websites. Seeing as Chris can't create anything without [[Things Chris has ripped off|ripping off original designs]], Devil Trolls resemble [[Wikipedia:Troll doll|those old Troll toys]], minus their gems, with long tails and demon-like wings. They also sport sharp teeth.

==Motivations==
===Chris's perspective===
Chris himself has a more simplistic view of what motivates his enemies. When a [[Mailbag]] correspondent asked him to explain why he's trolled, and why so many people seem to hate him, Chris had this ingenious response:

{{quote|"[[Chris and English|Tehy're]] just jealous that they did not think of [[Sonichu]] first, or that I am more [[Chris and art|Artistically Talented]] than they are."|[[Chris]], [[Mailbag 5|Mailbag #5]]}}

[[File:Trollll.PNG|thumb|Drawing of a troll appearing in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]].]]

This is consistent with the advice given many children who are harrassed in real life: that bullies are merely jealous of you, and want to see you react unfavorably, when in reality, bullies abuse others for many different motives, jealousy being only one of them - and, internet trolls typically do what they do for their own amusement, and not always out of some personal slight against their target. Since Chris [[Count Graduon|never moved past]] [[Manchester High School|high school]] mentally, he still believes he is hated because [[Ego|he is so much better than everyone else.]] [[File:Trollmiia.png|200px|thumb|artistic recreation @miiashapphire]]

From his own attempts to illustrate trolling, it's obvious that Chris has no concept of how it works. When he tried his hand at impersonation, he thought that we'd all be trolled if he pretended to be an epic troll, but then [[Jack|a troll]] saw through his lie and forced him to admit that he is, indeed, a fat idiot. Chris believes that trolling has two steps: pretend to be someone you're not and then "troll" someone by revealing who you really are. [[Silvana]], a character based on his perception of forum trolls who claim to be people they aren't, thinks it's hilarious to pretend to be [[Meg Griffin]], kiss Chris, and then transform once she's out of sight. As a result, Chris walks away happy, unaware that he just kissed a tranny, defeating the entire point of "trolling" him.

Recently, it seems that he's decided that the majority of his hated trolls are actually homosexuals, combining his two major hates into one massive force of nature. The earliest this is seen is [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Mailbag&oldid=3208|a message he wrote] in his Mailbag section, exploding in rage over an added [[Twitter]] and how they could talk about him behind his back. Even more, in his [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia Page)|CWCipedia article on The Wallflower]], Chris has also decided that the trolls are also [[niggos|black]].

Unsurprisingly, Chris also considers trolling a ''crime'', and has somehow dedicated himself to stop trolling. However, Chris's views on trolling are very very skewed, as he believes that ''all'' trolling is equal to what he had done to him. A [[EXCLUSIVE Manchester High School 2000 Reunion Required NOW|recent video]] actually has him tell people how to act on the Internet [[Chris and hypocrisy|mere moments after revealing his real name, address, and phone number]].

As the years passed, Chris's take on trolls has erupted into a massive flight of fancy. Because he has been refused admittance to [[The GAMe PLACe]], Chris has now proclaimed that the entire store is a massive front for Internet trolling, with [[Michael Snyder]] as the ringleader of it all. As well, he seems to have chosen the [[CWCki Forums]] as a major gathering place for trolls.

===His parents' perspective===
The [[Matthew Noble call]] in August 2010 revealed some interesting insights into Bob and Barbara Chandler's interpretation of what has happened to their son over the years. Chris's parents are apparently convinced that the entire Chris-chan Trolldom grew out of a conspiracy by Michael Snyder, two alleged homosexuals who frequented The GAMe PLACe (possibly [[Lucas]] and [[Mimms]]), and ''[[Megan Schroeder]]'', who worked to get Chris banned from the store and are involved with a general effort to harass and torment Chris. When speaking with Ivy, Bob described Megan with words like "cruel" and "German". Bob was convinced that it is all because they are persecuting Chris for being autistic, while in reality he was scaring away customers with his behavior and sexually harassing Megan.

It's useful to try to consider things from his parents' point of view. To begin with, there ''is'' a worldwide conspiracy, more or less, to pester the Chandlers, violate their privacy, drive their son to do ridiculous things, and otherwise fuck with them in a myriad of ways. Bob and Barbara are bombarded by prank phone calls all day, nude photos, God knows what else arrive in their mail, signs mysteriously appearing on their lawn, Chris having [[Kacey and Liquid Call|angry screaming matches]] with people they've never met on the telephone, Chris once drove off to Ohio to meet [[Julie|a woman who didn't exist]], and so on.

Being Chris's parents must be a fairly surreal experience at this point, and given that they belong to a much older generation, they can hardly be expected to develop the grasp of Internet social phenomena that they'd need to properly understand their situation. The GAMe PLACe, however small a piece of the bigger picture it may be, is the most significant real, physical element of Chris's adventures in trolldom that they've been exposed to. As ridiculous as their theory may seem, it's probably the best they can do as far as making sense of what has happened and continues to happen to them.

==Chris the troll==
While the idea of everyone's favorite manchild becoming the one thing he hates seems kind of farfetched, if not laughably ironic, it actually isn't too far off as one might think. Because of his horrendous misconceptions of what he thinks his trolls does, Chris believes that, if given a new target, Chris's trolls would gladly stop attacking him and go after that new target. In the past, Chris has tried to deflect his trolls towards people like [[Joshua Martinez]], [[Michael Snyder]] and even [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]]. However, Chris has been so entrenched with his trolls and viewers that the idea of going after someone else doesn't seem feasible anymore.

As well, Chris has even attempted to troll his own trolls. One of the first known attempts was the [[Rollin' and Trollin']] video, claiming that he had pulled the most epic prank on the Internet, only to turn around the very next day and reveal that it was a lie. [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], as mentioned above, had his comic book self thinking he had kissed [[Meg Griffin]], not knowing that it was actually [[Silvana]]. As well, on 28 [[April 2012]], he attempted to convince his trolls that he had decided to return to the mall and resume his [[Love Quest]], armed with his [[Attraction Sign]]. Again, he revealed the next day that it was a lie and that he had gotten [[ban]]ned from the mall just before he decided to pull it.

Interestingly, Chris's perception of being a troll is less about trolling to get a rise out of someone and more of attempting to pull a prank. His "return" to the Love Quest is probably the biggest indicator of that. Chris let his trolls know through his [[Facebook]], then waited a day before shouting "SURPRISE!". As well, he also believed that if someone reads his message, he's going to assume that everyone has and that they are going to descend on the mall like a bad flash mob just to find Chris. Too bad everyone, unlike Chris, has lives of their own.

However, if there is one person that Chris himself has successfully trolled, without a shadow of a doubt, it's ''himself''. Proof of this can be directly pointed to his [[Ego#Surrendering Information|bad habit of surrendering information]] about himself, no matter how [[Tomgirl|embarrassing]], [[Nudes|demeaning]], or [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|downright]] [[Dox|stupid]] giving out said tidbits of himself would be. Chris often screams at his trolls for not leaving him alone, but, aside from the fact that his antics only add more fuel to the fire, he always fails to realise that if he didn't give them ammo to begin with, he wouldn't have ended up in this predicament. A shining example of this would be the [[2013 Imgur Leak]]. Chris could have ranted about the trolls, and most would have shrugged and assumed that [[Chris and anger|he's just being angry in typical Chris-Chan fashion.]] That is, until Chris revealed the reason ''why'' he got upset, inadvertently revealing the Facebook posts he was keeping a secret, as well as some [[Death Threats|very unsavory information]] that could get him arrested if taken seriously.

It just goes to show you, nobody trolls Chris better than Chris. Chris is the type to not only shoot himself in the foot, but reload, fire again, and repeat the cycle while blaming the trolls. He just never learns.

==Chris's relationship with the trolls==
Although he would never admit it, Chris eventually developed something of a love-hate relationship with the trolls, which became clear during the Liquid Saga. When Clyde trolled Liquid Chris in a phone call, Chris attempted to redirect Clyde to himself, angered by Liquid's slanderous attempt at stealing his trolls. In an E-mail to Vivian, Chris also [[Vivian Gee E-mails, 2009#4 August|thanked the trolls]] for documenting [[Honest Content|the information he revealed to them]] and [[Lie|allowing him to mature emotionally]]. Although the trolls were a nuisance to Chris, their antics were far more thrilling than Chris's hopelessly shitty yet mundane lifestyle, which left him unfulfilled and [[Persecution complex|desperate for adversity]]. The trolls served as black-and-white antagonists for Chris, giving him a perceived purpose in life and allowing him to live out his [[Sonichu (comic)|fantasies]] as [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|a hero]] [[Jerkops|pitted]] [[Mary Lee Walsh|against]] [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc|one-dimensional]] [[Count Graduon|villains]]. This was likely a factor in Chris's susceptibility to trolling.

Eventually, Chris's desire for a more exciting life of heroes fighting against villains was fully exploited by the [[Idea Guys]] and [[other enablers]]. As a result, Chris now believes that he ''already'' leads the same life as his fantasy counterpart, and has lost interest in traditional trolls.

==Today==
:''Main article: [[Weening]]''
Since the death of [[Bob Chandler|Chris's father]], the [[Destruction Of Chris's House|loss of his home]] and [[Financhu Crisis|his plummet to the breadline]], Chris has changed profoundly. No longer is he the [[naïve]], [[Chris and fashion|clown-shirted]], [[Red Letter CWC Certified Day|indifferent]] [[Ego|egotist]] ED discovered in 2007; instead, he is a jaded, chronically depressed, [[Tomgirl|cross-dressing]] child trapped in an adult's body, who is not as susceptible to, capable of dealing with, and arguably, as deserving of trolling as he used to be.

Many of those who continue to follow his activities are beginning to opine that he has suffered enough, and that active trolling, even where it is successful, doesn't produce the results it used to, takes more effort due to his inflated paranoia, tends to lead to small groups monopolizing Chris and hoarding the information they gather (as happened with [[Blanca Weiss|Blanca]] and [[Catherine]]), and in some cases, causes needless emotional damage to Chris. For example, the revelation that Chris's latest girlfriend, Catherine, was yet another troll persona in early [[November 2014]] provoked disgust and disappointment, as many felt that not only was it [[Sonichu (character)|unoriginal]] and [[JULAAAY|no longer funny]], but the trolls had spent weeks, if not months stringing him along and toying with him, including tricking him into [[I Love You, Catherine|grovelling]] for "Catherine"'s continued affection. Many felt this amounted to emotional abuse of an already broken and miserable shell of a man, some were even disappointed as they felt that after all Chris had gone through, he deserved a lucky break, and a real relationship for a change.

Further, this was accompanied by the revelation that the same group of trolls had also fabricated Chris's denunciation by his [[Gal pal|high school friends]], leading to many questioning the morality of impersonating Chris's old friends just to get a reaction out of him, and of course, the terrifying [[CWCville|Orwellian nightmare]] that such trolling has left Chris in, as virtually every aspect of Chris's social life is [[Chris and manipulation|engineered by trolls]] and he has no way of knowing what or who is real – [[Savannah Chandler|even his own family]].

Chris's transformation has also coincided with, and perhaps influenced, a shift in trolling. Active, chronic trolling such as Chris has experienced is now generally looked down upon as [[weening]] and attention whoring, instead it has become more fashionable to leave a lolcow like Chris to their own devices for the most part, and observe, rather than continually provoke. Proponents note that many major events in Chris's life have happened independent of troll influence, such as [[2014 house fire|him burning down his own home]], his various outings to [[Charlottesville, VA|Charlottesville]] and beyond (and many subsequent IRL bans), his bizarre dealings with [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and of course, the infamous [[28 October 2011]] and [[26 December 2014]] incidents. It can also be argued that much (if not most) of the trolling that Chris experienced since his discovery in 2007 was weening as well.

==See also==
* [[2012 Poster campaign]]
* [[4-cent garbage.com]]
* [[A-Logging]]
* [[CWCki]]
* [[Enablers]]
* [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]
* [[Kick the Autistic]]
* [[PVCC (Message Board)|PVCC]]
* [[Rollin' and Trollin']]
* [[Watchmen]] - The inverse of the Miscreants
* [[Weening]]
* [[White knight]]

==References==
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Lilacraven: /* Adam Stackhouse */

:''This article is about troll personas. For how trolls manipulated Chris, see [[Chris and manipulation]].''

{{Protip|If you're thinking about [[Weening|trying to troll Chris now as part of some zany scheme to get Chris to do something funny]], then don't. The golden age of trolling Chris was well over a decade ago and is never coming back, and [[Idea Guys|any attempt at]] [[Isabella Loretta Janke|reviving it]] has ended in disaster. Chris is a shell of the person he once was and is living in much more depressing circumstances than the ones that made him an infamous lolcow.}}

{{quote|That which can condemn the abnormally foolish is not the abnormally clever... That which can condemn the abnormally foolish is the normally foolish.|GK Chesterton}}
{{quote|...[T]hey are [[Chris and Anger|vicious]], [[Chris and reality|crazy]], [[Slow-in-the-minds|wickedly smart]] people.|[[Chris]] on trolls.<ref>[[Tomboys_And_Tomgirls_of_Virginia#Friendship_Issues|Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]]</ref>}}
{{quote|What a world we live in, with such trolls in it.|[[Bubbles]], [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]].}}

'''Trolls''' are various individuals of all races, colors, and creeds united under a common goal - to mess with the life of, and extract as many lulz from the [[Chris and the Internet|Internet]]'s most beloved and most hated [[autistic]] manchild, [[Chris Chan]], as possible. The organized effort to troll Chris began in earnest in 2007, and still has momentum going for it, even if it peaked after disbanding of the Classic-era trolls following the death of Chris's [[father]] in 2011.

Trolling schemes by these individuals have ranged from [[Manipulation|manipulating]] Chris into a ''Truman Show''-like existence, making him [[:Category:Videos with RAGE|rage on video]], making him take [[Nudes|pictures of himself unclothed]], accelerating the breaking of his sense of [[reality]], and more.

==Pre-ED==
It is notable that Chris was bullied in real life before his discovery by [[4-cent garbage.com|4chan]] and [[ED]]. It can be argued that the first known torment of Chris occurred when his lifelong-friend-who-no-longer-speaks-to-him, [[Sarah Nicole Hammer]], [[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares#Memories of childhood|locked him under the house]] when they were children. The next notable bullying occurred during the infamous mini-date with [[Hanna]] in [[2005]] which smashed his [[heart level]] to 15%. Around the same time, he was also trolled by a girl he contacted through [[MySpace]] named [[MySpace messages#Lindsay|Lindsay Kaye]]. There was also possible trolling of Chris through the guestbook on his website from as early as [[2003]], when "a hot redhead" said that she would meet him outside of [[PVCC]] (either this was epic trolling, or Chris put it on the guestbook himself). And let's not forget about [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and [[The GAMe PLACe]] hijinks.

But this was all child's play compared to what happened next....

==The Miscreants==
{{quote|Y'all are making me very nervous right now.|Chris on The Miscreants.<ref>[[Mumble 9]]</ref>}}

[[Image:REALChrisChanAndFriends.jpg|thumb|left|The Miscreants at their annual Ancient and Secret convention.]]
[[File:MiscreantsJury.png|thumb|left|The Miscreants on jury duty for Chris's [[Affair with Mother|misdeeds]].]]
[[Image:TapestryPickleMan.jpg|thumb|The Miscreants was an ancient order dating over a thousand years. In this lost scene from the Bayeux Tapestry, Christian's ancestor Geoffrey Weston the Feeble-Minded notes that he has been fooled by the "Man donning the Pickled Cucumber Suit."]]

'''The Miscreants''' were a group of people who trolled Chris from 2009 up until his father's death in 2011. [[Clyde Cash]] was the original leader of The Miscreants, which was styled after The Patriots, the shadowy cabal from the ''[[Metal Gear]]'' series who are revealed to be behind a conspiracy spanning decades, including all of the main incidents the protagonists go through. They claimed to be responsible for several unfortunate events in Chris's past, [[Chris and reality|which Chris seemingly believed]].

On 23 [[February 2009]], The Miscreants approached Chris in [[Mumble]] and informed him of their plan. Several [[Secret Weapon|"HA-HA, I got you!"]] videos were made, all with false information. To deal with these Internet bullies Chris resorted to [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 23rd, 2009|babbling incoherently]].

After the disappearance of Clyde Cash, the site was down for a few weeks, with the message that "Clyde's dead, baby." After that, the website returned, apparently re-uploaded by Vivian Gee. Part of the site description read "Name's Vivian. Guess I'm the new leader or some shit. Fuck y'all." On 28 [[June 2009]], the Miscreants set up shop at the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens]] message board.

While online wars have been waged, [[Man in the Pickle Suit|Men in Pickle Suits]] have also been deployed to ruin Chris in reality. These exploits have included stealing his [[Emily|date]], obtaining potentially life-ruining material, and generally being lulzy. They also seemed to treat [[Bob Chandler]] as one of their own.

While the group's explicit purpose, [[Mumble 9|according to Cash]], was to ensure that [[Chris and sex|Chris never got laid]] and forever remain a [[Virgin with rage]], that didn't stop them from [[Hooker incident|sending a bunch of prostitutes to]] [[14 Branchland Court|Chris's house]]. Nonetheless, Chris got the last laugh when [[Mia Hamm|he hired a prostitute]].

Since the death of Bob, the Miscreants have effectively disbanded, with pretty much everyone involved distancing themselves from Chris, and only a few (such as [[Surfshack Tito]]) continuing their efforts before eventually losing interest. Years after the fact, some have admitted that they took things too far when reflecting on this era of Christory, while others look back with a sense of smug satisfaction.

[[File:AdamStackhouse.jpg|left|80px|thumb|Adam Stackhouse]]

===[[Adam Stackhouse]]===

In [[2007]] Chris would enter the [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown]], in an attempt to win over [[Megan]]'s heart. [[Adam Stackhouse]] would win instead, due to his video being superior. This would prompt a [[Chris and anger|tard rage]], in which he created a fake webpage proclaiming himself the winner<ref>http://web.archive.org/web/20071108233910/http://members.aol.com/CWCSonichu/EPPromotions283.html</ref>, as well as [[CWC is Angry|a creepy video]] in which he shoots a photo of Adam and his sister with his [[Megatron Pistol]] in silence and exclaims his anger at the end.

[[File:ABL.png|left|80px|thumb|Alec Benson Leary]]

===[[Alec Benson Leary]]===
Creator of ''[[Asperchu]]'', a webcomic that was specifically designed to piss Chris off. This started a long war between ''[[Sonichu]]'' and the aforementioned Asperchu. Exchanged a series of [[Alec Benson Leary calls|nine calls]] with Chris over this war.

[[Image:SirWilliamMaysOBE.jpg|left|80px|thumb|BILLY MAYS]]

===[[BILLY MAYS]]===
The infamous loud-mouthed salesman of the same name who types in ALL CAPS. He was declared the mayor of [[CWCville]] by Chris on 3 March 2009 while under pressure from [[BlueSpike#Max|Max]]. It is widely suspected that Chris himself had something to do with his untimely death.

===[[Blanca Weiss]]===
[[Image:Blanka.jpg|80px|thumb|Blanca's true identity.]]

"Blanca" was really a trio of trolls (RickyRicardo123, Ickeriss69, and Nurse Icky-chan) who tricked Chris into sending them nudes, and later his [[Medallions of Fail|Sonichu medallion]]. Ickeriss later uploaded a couple of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3Jr2ZktVfI videos] featuring the Sonichu medallion, including a video in which the medallion is destroyed.

Not to be confused with [[Trolls#Lordsillynipples|LordSillyNipples]], who used the Blanca identity to score the first nudes.

===[[BlueSpike]]===
[[File:Bluespikeohexploitable.png|left|80px|Jack Thaddeus]]
BlueSpike (AKA "LeonSpike", aka "Julie", aka "Max") is a [[Pedofork|thirteen-year-old boy]] who pretended to be Chris's [[sweetheart]] "Julie". He later revealed himself as a troll in a now infamous [[Julie Reveals Herself|hour-long audio recording]] in which he berates Christian and makes him stick his Sonichu medallion up his ass.

[[Image:BryanBash.jpg|thumb|left|80px|Bryan Bash (right) with your sister (left).]]

===[[Bryan Bash]]===
Bryan Bash is a close friend of [[Clyde Cash]]. He is the one who [[Hooker incident|sent hookers over to Chris's house]], as well as the person who called during the infamous [[Bob Walks In|"Bob Walks In"]] audio file, and is responsible for leaking [[CWCRockin4Way.jpg]]. Additionally, he leaked the [[Father Call]] and the [[Kacey and Liquid Call]] to [[/cwc/]] on 11 November [[2009]], and he has also leaked conversations between [[Chris]] and [[Jack Thaddeus]].

===[[Clyde Cash]]===

[[image:TheRealClydeCash.jpg|thumb|80px|right|Clyde Cash. The man. The legend. The guido.]]

The nefarious [[Clyde Cash]] is the most infamous and legendary of trolls. A vile and reprehensible fellow whose very name strikes fear and revulsion into Chris's clogged heart and inspires admiration from the souls of the people. He posed as [[Shigeru Miyamoto]], raped Chris's beloved [[PandaHalo]], and performed many more amazing feats about which songs shall be written and the minstrels shall sing of in the ages immemorial. Unfortunately it will not come to pass since Clyde is serving a life sentence for stealing the identity of Lee Hotti.

===[[Emily]]===

A brave soul who went on a date with Chris. She was later saved by the [[Man in the Pickle Suit|Jew in the Pickle Suit]].

[[File:Ahuvia.png|thumb|left|80px|Jack Thaddeus]]

===[[Jack Thaddeus]]===
The possible successor (and gay lover) of Clyde Cash and is responsible for various [[PS3#PlayStation Network|PSN]]-related trollings and also for the [[CWCipedia]] ads.

[[File:Jimmuh hill.jpg|thumb|80px|Jimmy Hill]]

===[[Jimmy Hill]]===
A British sportscaster. He claimed to be the true original creator of Sonichu, the first openly gay cartoon character which briefly became very popular in Europe in 2009.

===[[Jason Kendrick Howell]]===
The original creator of the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|ED]] page.

===[[The Man in the Pickle Suit]] ===
A real-life pickleman who answers to Clyde Cash. He saved Emily from the clutches of Chris.

[[Image:CChanSonichuCWC.jpg|thumb|left|80px|The [[TRUE and HONEST]] Chris]]

===[[Liquid Chris]]===
A [[YouTube]] troll who is known for doing a spot-on impersonation of Chris-chan. Within his saga, Liquid Chris is referred to as the [[TRUE and HONEST]] Chris-chan and creator of the popular comic character Sonichu, and Solid is referred to as an angry troll named [[Ian Brandon Anderson]], who made outlandish claims that he was the real Chris.

===[[Lordsillynipples]]===
A troll from [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|ED]] who was responsible for impersonating [[Blanca Weiss|Blanca]] and being the first to obtain the now [[Nudes|infamous Chris-chan noodz]] on 11 September 2008, along with [[Christian Weston Chandler...Yep, I'm on TV :)|Chris's DVD]]. She is also responsible for giving birth to the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] and for feeding Chris the infamous guido picture of [[Clyde Cash|Clyde]].

===[[Robert Simmons V]]===
A YouTube troll who managed to gain Chris's trust by showing him support and mirroring his life. Along with [[Church audio|visiting Chris's church]] and meeting [[Bob Chandler|Bob]], he also had a hand in organizing the [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript|Emily date]].

[[image:Tito 300.gif|thumb|80px|Surfshack Tito]]

===[[Shigeru Miyamoto]]===
Shigeru Miyamoto (Japanese: 宮本茂) is the creator of some of Nintendo's most legendary video game franchises such as ''Super Mario'', ''The Legend of Zelda'', and ''Star Fox''. He pretended to be interested in his [[sonichu|yellow Sonic abortion]]. It would later come to light that Miyamoto was a sockpuppet of Clyde.

===[[Surfshack Tito (troll)|Surfshack Tito]]===

An enigmatic troll who managed to invoke Chris's wrath on [[Surfshack Tito|two]] [[Tito Got No Luck Against We Brits, Irish and Scots!|separate]] occasions by hacking his PSN and taking the blame for ruining Chris's slim chances with [[The Wallflower]]. He was also involved in [[The MovingForward videos|the destruction]] of Chris's beloved [[PS3]].

[[image:TH.PNG|thumb|80px|left|Thorg]]
[[image:Vivian.jpg|thumb|80px|Vivian]]

===[[Thorg]]===
A troll responsible for creating a [[20 December 2009|slanderous billboard]] in 2009 and exposing [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]] in 2011. A major part of Chris's 2011 [[Calling Out|blackmail campaign]].

===[[Vivian Gee]]===
The creator of the ''Sonichu'' [[audiobooks]] and various other Chris-related videos and cousin of Clyde Cash. A former white knight who turned troll after she realized Chris was a [[Vivian Gee E-mails|hopeless, thick-skulled moron]]. She and Clyde Cash were both personas created by the same troll.

==Post-Bob's death==
Following Bob's death in 2011, the then-current group of trolls disbanded to give Chris room to grieve. In the years that followed, new trolls would eventually crop up.

===[[Thetan]]===
Impersonated Chris's former high school classmates.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/6-22-chris-at-too-many-games-convention.44691/post-3494509</ref>

===[[Catherine]] and [[Cousin Al]]===
Catherine is a fake love interest who conspired with [[Marvin]] by manipulating [[OKCupid]] results to match with Chris's.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-2798964 (archive: https://archive.fo/0wRXL)</ref> She used this influence for another sweetheart saga which included meeting him in real life to surreptitiously record his conversations.

Cousin Al is another associate of Catherine's who joined her in the meetings and posted the recorded conversations to the [[CWCki Forums]]. He is also known for rummaging through Chris's trash to find and post the [[Manchester High Leaks]] to the forum<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/new-leak-s-15jun2014.3897/ (archive: https://archive.fo/AcM0p)</ref> (his username would later be changed by moderators to "garbageraider" to reflect this).

===[[Jeff/Francine]]===
The mysterious creator of [[CWC Adult Chronicles]]. Targeted by Chris for selling unofficial Sonichu merchandise and in a blatant act of [[hypocrisy]], was made fun of for her transition.

===[[Johan]]===
An ex-gay porn star who challenged Chris for the rights to impregnate [[Sam and Ellen|two lesbians]]. After a sex-off, Johan's superior body and non-bent duck won them over.

===[[Jessica Quinn]]===
A former white knight who played the long con by becoming his sweetheart. Known for her fat fetishism before ditching him and coming back and forth to toy with him.

==Fantasy Enablers==
Beginning in October 2017, the [[Idea Guys]] exploited Chris's fantasy [[coping]] mechanisms to gain power over him. Since then, numerous [[enablers]] have used similar methods.

===[[Idea Guys]]===
A group of trolls whose actions rivaled and arguably surpassed that of BlueSpike. They remain infamous for how they manipulated and brainwashed Chris over a period of several months, coercing him into performing degrading acts and extorting him out of thousands. The Idea Guys hastily vanished after the emergence of the [[Guard Dogs]], who set about attempting to reverse all the Idea Guys had wrought. Nonetheless, Chris maintains many of their influences in the current day, chief among them the beliefs that he's a [[CPU Blue Heart|CPU goddess]], the [[Dimensional Merge]], and his imaginary [[polyamorous marriage]].

===[[Teen Troon Squad]]===
A group of transgender teenagers who posed as his friends. They took advantage of Chris's faltering sense of reality by feeding him information on the [[Dimensional Merge]] and taking over his Twitter account. Rumored to have given Chris marijuana.

===[[Jacob Sockness]]===
A mysterious man from San Francisco, California, who aimed to manipulate Chris into a relationship. He had primarily served to only further enable the beliefs planted in Chris's head by the [[Idea Guys]], as well as bolster Chris's beliefs in the [[Dimensional Merge]]. After Sockness stated that he was taking a train across the country to meet with Chris in person, Chris insisted that Sockness stop after realizing Sockness was a legitimate danger. While Sockness relented and went back to California, he still ended up continuing to try and force his way back into Chris's life on repeated occasions, only to be aggressively rejected by Chris in late November 2019. Despite this, Sockness made several more attempts at returning. Eventually being repeatedly chastised by Chris on [[Twitter]] in [[July 2020]], and finally being permanently blocked by Chris by the end of [[August 2020]].

===[[Ben Saint]]===
A webcomic artist who expressed an interest in Chris two years prior. Ben entered into a squabble with Chris after getting him and [[Night Star]] involved in his latest comic series promoting his latest project, ''Endless War''. The interaction would then lead to a battle over the canonicity over the events of the comic, with the two sides providing [[Sonichu Special 7|contradictory narratives]].

===[[Larry Vaughn]]===
A troll who attempted to somewhat follow in the footsteps of the Idea Guys. His grandiose plans of using [[Magi-Chan]] as a hostage to make Chris drive to Disney World were stopped before they could begin, but Vaughn did manage to have Chris send bizarre Twitter DMs to various individuals.

==[[Sonichu_(character)|Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]]==
While there's no definitive proof of these two being trolls, they have been known to dispense advice for Chris from time to time, especially on the subject of relationships.<ref name="Jackie e 16">[[Jackie_E-mails_16]]</ref> Considering the [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|results derived from said advice]], one cannot help but wonder about their true motivations.

==Devil Trolls==
[[File:ModNation TrollFemale.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Featured in ''[[ModNation Racers]]''.]]

Aside from the several notable figures above, the '''Devil Trolls''' are mysterious, [[Image:DevilTroll.jpg|thumb|200px|Artist's depiction.]] evil creatures that appear in Chris's ''[[Sonichu]]'' comic series. These creatures are first mentioned in [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]] and make their first full appearance in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]].

[[File:Devil_troll_artistic_interpretation.png|thumb|right|150px|Artistic recreation.]]

Like many beings within Chris's comics, the Devil Trolls are inspired by his encounters in real life. Devil Trolls represent the various trolls that have given him such [[stress]] over his lifetime. This is shown when Chris encounters a set of them attacking a room containing his stuff from one of his earlier websites.

The Devil Trolls make their first mentioned appearance as some sort of grass protrusions taking away the fallen "[[IBAChandler]]" after Sonichu defeats him in ''Sonichu'' #9. They make their full appearance in ''Sonichu'' #10, as [[Chris-Chan Sonichu]] encounters them inside a room containing his pictures from his various websites. Seeing as Chris can't create anything without [[Things Chris has ripped off|ripping off original designs]], Devil Trolls resemble [[Wikipedia:Troll doll|those old Troll toys]], minus their gems, with long tails and demon-like wings. They also sport sharp teeth.

==Motivations==
===Chris's perspective===
Chris himself has a more simplistic view of what motivates his enemies. When a [[Mailbag]] correspondent asked him to explain why he's trolled, and why so many people seem to hate him, Chris had this ingenious response:

{{quote|"[[Chris and English|Tehy're]] just jealous that they did not think of [[Sonichu]] first, or that I am more [[Chris and art|Artistically Talented]] than they are."|[[Chris]], [[Mailbag 5|Mailbag #5]]}}

[[File:Trollll.PNG|thumb|Drawing of a troll appearing in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]].]]

This is consistent with the advice given many children who are harrassed in real life: that bullies are merely jealous of you, and want to see you react unfavorably, when in reality, bullies abuse others for many different motives, jealousy being only one of them - and, internet trolls typically do what they do for their own amusement, and not always out of some personal slight against their target. Since Chris [[Count Graduon|never moved past]] [[Manchester High School|high school]] mentally, he still believes he is hated because [[Ego|he is so much better than everyone else.]] [[File:Trollmiia.png|200px|thumb|artistic recreation @miiashapphire]]

From his own attempts to illustrate trolling, it's obvious that Chris has no concept of how it works. When he tried his hand at impersonation, he thought that we'd all be trolled if he pretended to be an epic troll, but then [[Jack|a troll]] saw through his lie and forced him to admit that he is, indeed, a fat idiot. Chris believes that trolling has two steps: pretend to be someone you're not and then "troll" someone by revealing who you really are. [[Silvana]], a character based on his perception of forum trolls who claim to be people they aren't, thinks it's hilarious to pretend to be [[Meg Griffin]], kiss Chris, and then transform once she's out of sight. As a result, Chris walks away happy, unaware that he just kissed a tranny, defeating the entire point of "trolling" him.

Recently, it seems that he's decided that the majority of his hated trolls are actually homosexuals, combining his two major hates into one massive force of nature. The earliest this is seen is [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Mailbag&oldid=3208|a message he wrote] in his Mailbag section, exploding in rage over an added [[Twitter]] and how they could talk about him behind his back. Even more, in his [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia Page)|CWCipedia article on The Wallflower]], Chris has also decided that the trolls are also [[niggos|black]].

Unsurprisingly, Chris also considers trolling a ''crime'', and has somehow dedicated himself to stop trolling. However, Chris's views on trolling are very very skewed, as he believes that ''all'' trolling is equal to what he had done to him. A [[EXCLUSIVE Manchester High School 2000 Reunion Required NOW|recent video]] actually has him tell people how to act on the Internet [[Chris and hypocrisy|mere moments after revealing his real name, address, and phone number]].

As the years passed, Chris's take on trolls has erupted into a massive flight of fancy. Because he has been refused admittance to [[The GAMe PLACe]], Chris has now proclaimed that the entire store is a massive front for Internet trolling, with [[Michael Snyder]] as the ringleader of it all. As well, he seems to have chosen the [[CWCki Forums]] as a major gathering place for trolls.

===His parents' perspective===
The [[Matthew Noble call]] in August 2010 revealed some interesting insights into Bob and Barbara Chandler's interpretation of what has happened to their son over the years. Chris's parents are apparently convinced that the entire Chris-chan Trolldom grew out of a conspiracy by Michael Snyder, two alleged homosexuals who frequented The GAMe PLACe (possibly [[Lucas]] and [[Mimms]]), and ''[[Megan Schroeder]]'', who worked to get Chris banned from the store and are involved with a general effort to harass and torment Chris. When speaking with Ivy, Bob described Megan with words like "cruel" and "German". Bob was convinced that it is all because they are persecuting Chris for being autistic, while in reality he was scaring away customers with his behavior and sexually harassing Megan.

It's useful to try to consider things from his parents' point of view. To begin with, there ''is'' a worldwide conspiracy, more or less, to pester the Chandlers, violate their privacy, drive their son to do ridiculous things, and otherwise fuck with them in a myriad of ways. Bob and Barbara are bombarded by prank phone calls all day, nude photos, God knows what else arrive in their mail, signs mysteriously appearing on their lawn, Chris having [[Kacey and Liquid Call|angry screaming matches]] with people they've never met on the telephone, Chris once drove off to Ohio to meet [[Julie|a woman who didn't exist]], and so on.

Being Chris's parents must be a fairly surreal experience at this point, and given that they belong to a much older generation, they can hardly be expected to develop the grasp of Internet social phenomena that they'd need to properly understand their situation. The GAMe PLACe, however small a piece of the bigger picture it may be, is the most significant real, physical element of Chris's adventures in trolldom that they've been exposed to. As ridiculous as their theory may seem, it's probably the best they can do as far as making sense of what has happened and continues to happen to them.

==Chris the troll==
While the idea of everyone's favorite manchild becoming the one thing he hates seems kind of farfetched, if not laughably ironic, it actually isn't too far off as one might think. Because of his horrendous misconceptions of what he thinks his trolls does, Chris believes that, if given a new target, Chris's trolls would gladly stop attacking him and go after that new target. In the past, Chris has tried to deflect his trolls towards people like [[Joshua Martinez]], [[Michael Snyder]] and even [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]]. However, Chris has been so entrenched with his trolls and viewers that the idea of going after someone else doesn't seem feasible anymore.

As well, Chris has even attempted to troll his own trolls. One of the first known attempts was the [[Rollin' and Trollin']] video, claiming that he had pulled the most epic prank on the Internet, only to turn around the very next day and reveal that it was a lie. [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], as mentioned above, had his comic book self thinking he had kissed [[Meg Griffin]], not knowing that it was actually [[Silvana]]. As well, on 28 [[April 2012]], he attempted to convince his trolls that he had decided to return to the mall and resume his [[Love Quest]], armed with his [[Attraction Sign]]. Again, he revealed the next day that it was a lie and that he had gotten [[ban]]ned from the mall just before he decided to pull it.

Interestingly, Chris's perception of being a troll is less about trolling to get a rise out of someone and more of attempting to pull a prank. His "return" to the Love Quest is probably the biggest indicator of that. Chris let his trolls know through his [[Facebook]], then waited a day before shouting "SURPRISE!". As well, he also believed that if someone reads his message, he's going to assume that everyone has and that they are going to descend on the mall like a bad flash mob just to find Chris. Too bad everyone, unlike Chris, has lives of their own.

However, if there is one person that Chris himself has successfully trolled, without a shadow of a doubt, it's ''himself''. Proof of this can be directly pointed to his [[Ego#Surrendering Information|bad habit of surrendering information]] about himself, no matter how [[Tomgirl|embarrassing]], [[Nudes|demeaning]], or [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|downright]] [[Dox|stupid]] giving out said tidbits of himself would be. Chris often screams at his trolls for not leaving him alone, but, aside from the fact that his antics only add more fuel to the fire, he always fails to realise that if he didn't give them ammo to begin with, he wouldn't have ended up in this predicament. A shining example of this would be the [[2013 Imgur Leak]]. Chris could have ranted about the trolls, and most would have shrugged and assumed that [[Chris and anger|he's just being angry in typical Chris-Chan fashion.]] That is, until Chris revealed the reason ''why'' he got upset, inadvertently revealing the Facebook posts he was keeping a secret, as well as some [[Death Threats|very unsavory information]] that could get him arrested if taken seriously.

It just goes to show you, nobody trolls Chris better than Chris. Chris is the type to not only shoot himself in the foot, but reload, fire again, and repeat the cycle while blaming the trolls. He just never learns.

==Chris's relationship with the trolls==
Although he would never admit it, Chris eventually developed something of a love-hate relationship with the trolls, which became clear during the Liquid Saga. When Clyde trolled Liquid Chris in a phone call, Chris attempted to redirect Clyde to himself, angered by Liquid's slanderous attempt at stealing his trolls. In an E-mail to Vivian, Chris also [[Vivian Gee E-mails, 2009#4 August|thanked the trolls]] for documenting [[Honest Content|the information he revealed to them]] and [[Lie|allowing him to mature emotionally]]. Although the trolls were a nuisance to Chris, their antics were far more thrilling than Chris's hopelessly shitty yet mundane lifestyle, which left him unfulfilled and [[Persecution complex|desperate for adversity]]. The trolls served as black-and-white antagonists for Chris, giving him a perceived purpose in life and allowing him to live out his [[Sonichu (comic)|fantasies]] as [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|a hero]] [[Jerkops|pitted]] [[Mary Lee Walsh|against]] [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc|one-dimensional]] [[Count Graduon|villains]]. This was likely a factor in Chris's susceptibility to trolling.

Eventually, Chris's desire for a more exciting life of heroes fighting against villains was fully exploited by the [[Idea Guys]] and [[other enablers]]. As a result, Chris now believes that he ''already'' leads the same life as his fantasy counterpart, and has lost interest in traditional trolls.

==Today==
:''Main article: [[Weening]]''
Since the death of [[Bob Chandler|Chris's father]], the [[Destruction Of Chris's House|loss of his home]] and [[Financhu Crisis|his plummet to the breadline]], Chris has changed profoundly. No longer is he the [[naïve]], [[Chris and fashion|clown-shirted]], [[Red Letter CWC Certified Day|indifferent]] [[Ego|egotist]] ED discovered in 2007; instead, he is a jaded, chronically depressed, [[Tomgirl|cross-dressing]] child trapped in an adult's body, who is not as susceptible to, capable of dealing with, and arguably, as deserving of trolling as he used to be.

Many of those who continue to follow his activities are beginning to opine that he has suffered enough, and that active trolling, even where it is successful, doesn't produce the results it used to, takes more effort due to his inflated paranoia, tends to lead to small groups monopolizing Chris and hoarding the information they gather (as happened with [[Blanca Weiss|Blanca]] and [[Catherine]]), and in some cases, causes needless emotional damage to Chris. For example, the revelation that Chris's latest girlfriend, Catherine, was yet another troll persona in early [[November 2014]] provoked disgust and disappointment, as many felt that not only was it [[Sonichu (character)|unoriginal]] and [[JULAAAY|no longer funny]], but the trolls had spent weeks, if not months stringing him along and toying with him, including tricking him into [[I Love You, Catherine|grovelling]] for "Catherine"'s continued affection. Many felt this amounted to emotional abuse of an already broken and miserable shell of a man, some were even disappointed as they felt that after all Chris had gone through, he deserved a lucky break, and a real relationship for a change.

Further, this was accompanied by the revelation that the same group of trolls had also fabricated Chris's denunciation by his [[Gal pal|high school friends]], leading to many questioning the morality of impersonating Chris's old friends just to get a reaction out of him, and of course, the terrifying [[CWCville|Orwellian nightmare]] that such trolling has left Chris in, as virtually every aspect of Chris's social life is [[Chris and manipulation|engineered by trolls]] and he has no way of knowing what or who is real – [[Savannah Chandler|even his own family]].

Chris's transformation has also coincided with, and perhaps influenced, a shift in trolling. Active, chronic trolling such as Chris has experienced is now generally looked down upon as [[weening]] and attention whoring, instead it has become more fashionable to leave a lolcow like Chris to their own devices for the most part, and observe, rather than continually provoke. Proponents note that many major events in Chris's life have happened independent of troll influence, such as [[2014 house fire|him burning down his own home]], his various outings to [[Charlottesville, VA|Charlottesville]] and beyond (and many subsequent IRL bans), his bizarre dealings with [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and of course, the infamous [[28 October 2011]] and [[26 December 2014]] incidents. It can also be argued that much (if not most) of the trolling that Chris experienced since his discovery in 2007 was weening as well.

==See also==
* [[2012 Poster campaign]]
* [[4-cent garbage.com]]
* [[A-Logging]]
* [[CWCki]]
* [[Enablers]]
* [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]
* [[Kick the Autistic]]
* [[PVCC (Message Board)|PVCC]]
* [[Rollin' and Trollin']]
* [[Watchmen]] - The inverse of the Miscreants
* [[Weening]]
* [[White knight]]

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