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CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)

2020-08-15T05:56:45Z

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The following is a conversation that several [[Watchmen]] had with Chris over Google Hangout on 20 July 2020.

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'''Heart:''' you uh was it wasn't that funny to see i remember uh you showed up in the mat at the internet uh discord server and there was a lot of uh exceptional behavior going on that day to the point where i i don't know if you know who Darkseid Phil is but Darkseid Phil is this individual who does let's plays and he was yeah and uh that on that day he he got kicked off of twitch so everybody in that server was freaking out over that and then half the internet went down because of cloud player so once so by the time you showed up in the in in the mat at the internet server people quite literally couldn't believe that that was that that was Sonichu because yeah and also in the past uh there's also a lot of people also a lot of people you know you obviously know this but there's people who've been pretended to be Sonichu on discord and and on other platforms so they p probably thought it was a fake and since they did and since they don't know you and how you know your your particular style of writing like any any true chritorian would have been able to look at that and tell like oh yeah that's that's

'''Chris:''' ...yeah especially with all the things that I've seen and experienced

'''Heart:''' yeah i i like the way i like the way you bantered back and forth uh forward because you were expecting or you know so uh you know i i don't i'm
not sure what you were expecting i don't want to assume anything but the way you said like go ahead and show me your pick you're the the troll
you know like you you took care of it like like a boss you were ready to take to take them on and i like it because but if you notice nobody nobody said anything because you know they know even though even though mine is not in there some of the the people who matter in that server know that i'm bismuth that's why that's why i said hi that's why i tagged you and tagged you and said hi i know you've been playing uh dnd recently because you used the term you know chaotic uh you know chaotic good and that confused that that confused some people and i and i was trying to tell them like it's a it's a you know it's a dungeon in the dragon's term you know come on

'''Chris:''' yeah

'''Heart:''' yeah like read a book you know (giggling)

'''Chris:''' but yeah i wanted to make sure i was i wanted to make sure they knew that it was me and that meant not mom and not mama Chris chan so yeah i just essentially put my foot
forward i'd be like hey i like my dick's mostly pink!

'''Heart:''' yeah that
was but yeah that was funny as fuck that that made me laugh so hard um and you you like just just just as like uh just as Josh you know said to you you brought so much you you bring and you brought so much fucking joy to this world and you continue to do so that's why one of the reasons why you know we you need to remain safe

'''Spade:''' yeah you're amazing Sonichu

'''Heart:''' yeah we want nothing but the best for you

'''Chris:''' (mumbling)

'''Chris:''' i must be in the same dimension as Rosie that's the most valuable thing i think she's right next to me so it's like we're literally so near yet so far

'''Spade:''' yeah

'''Heart:''' ...That's that's that's really sweet i wish i wish more wish more people didn't try to use didn't uh i wouldn't try to weaponize a Roseachu against you because they know you know that that i i love that little couplet that you wrote you know as long as the birds tweet you shall be my heart sweet

'''Chris:''' (laughing)

'''Spade:''' it was adorable yeah so corny but cute

'''Heart:''' no it's not even corny it's cute i like i like it fight me it looks cute still is

'''Chris:''' that's a big cuteness oh boy and i like and then i definitely like what the trick was this trick quite tricky at her book you know hey i can see i can hey are you a ship cause i can see us doing meows to me out

'''Heart:''' that is pretty funny

'''Chris:''' it's just you know the stupid cheesy corny flirt lines or something Rosie and i did have back in the day (mumbling)

'''Heart:''' oh so oh sorry it's just a uh it's an interview with this uh fella named uh Darkside Phil the person that i was mentioning they're doing a little interview with him he's trying to explain why he was kicked off of Twitch

Speaker 3: who's twitch who's interviewing him?

'''Heart:''' oh uh he's interviewing he's interviewing himself because he's too afraid to because Darkseid Phil is a genuinely like nasty person so he won't go on he won't speak to
anybody unless they pay him

'''Chris:''' so he's just like interviewing himself is he like playing two different characters himself and somebody entirely different

'''Heart:''' he's just uh he'll state he'll state uh one thing he'll say like so my detractor said this and then he'll respond to himself

'''Chris:''' okay

'''Heart:''' yeah it's called it's called it's called a hug box and that's one of the reasons that's one of the many reasons why you know you're awesome because you don't you know you're willing to go outside uh yeah you're willing to go outside that box

'''Chris:''' yep

'''Heart:''' not a lot of people are they just want to stay in places where oh you know their their narrow minded views are reinforced

'''Chris:''' yeah and then also some also

'''Heart:''' exploring!

'''Chris:''' yeah if they are talking to somebody else they want to make sure they are being clearly understood that they are understanding the other people that's uh that's kind of like the reasons why mama doesn't typically have her ears doesn't like you know phone conversation as much especially when you got the person in the other room that's (unintelligible)
conversation with kai and more than half the time uh look at this (unintelligible) all right so it's like he definitely confirms the magic (unintelligible)

'''Heart:''' yeah it's it's okay it's okay does he does he really speaks yeah does he does he speak that quick? or does he just simply bombard you with information

'''Chris:''' yeah he he literally kind of like did the combination of fast and low talking uh he took a baby test he had drank like a bunch like some energy drinks and some sodas before

'''Heart:''' so yeah soda's not nice soda's does not good for you you know you gotta you know you gotta mix things up

'''Chris:''' and he also definitely definitely drinks some water at times as well so there's that yeah

'''Spade:''' so it's kind of like a fast mumble?

'''Chris:''' yeah that's what it sounds like yes

'''Heart:''' hmm that's why i try to articulate my words

'''Chris:''' yeah you know i get the same level you know according to memory when mama tried talking with Jake over the phone the uh vocals the way that he speaks that's about the same amount that's about nearly this similar difficulty i get from high school it's not exact but similar

'''Heart:''' yeah that's well that's not a good sign you know you you're into it yeah yeah use your intuition you know it to be true you know

'''Chris:''' but of course uh yeah kai is definitely different from Jake he's like the total opposite

'''Heart:''' well yeah well what i mean by what i mean by that is can you know people who are confused sometimes tend to tend to be the same it's not that he's possibly even malicious but it's just that he could just be another confused person you know because we because we we still don't know uh like uh does did he know did he know about did he know about mama before all of this? did he know about mama from from the documentaries? or what

'''Chris:''' no he never knew yeah he never knew about mama Chris chan until the day she went to that first dungeons and dragons session and met him there

'''Heart:''' i i don't understand how that's possible i i don't understand how that's possible though your mom is so famous yeah my mama's infamous especially remember
uh mama left that sign uh out in front of that that how uh out in front of there and even the store owners knew it was news from mama yeah so it's so weird

'''Chris:''' and kai is not one of those it goes goes on often with the social medias

'''Heart:''' oh well he so he had no power so he so he and the rest of the group did not really have much prior knowledge about mama (unintelligible) and everything so it just decides they have they chaos the internet on that point so that was definitely a good thing that we said that channel the others sat down and foreseen in that particular dnd group

Speaker 4: um if i may ask Sonichu is this the person you drew a picture for for their Sonichu oc?

'''Chris:''' yeah darkri Sonichu

Speaker 4: yeah that's right because i remember i remember you telling me that that's very interesting i was just curious if that was
the same person

'''Chris:''' yeah that's yeah that's him

Speaker 4: okay

'''Heart:''' uh yeah no that was a good question to ask yeah that's actually something that you

'''Spade:''' try to talk to us and like hang out we're not

'''Heart:''' yeah exactly just come yeah yeah just come hang it just come hang out with us you know we all

'''Chris:''' difficulties as well

'''Heart:''' i mean we i mean every each of us each of us here do come on like let's we're we're all we're all we're all friends
here we we all do i don't know there's nothing yeah there's nothing for him you know there's nothing for him to be scared of
just

'''Spade:''' and It feels like he's avoiding us and that makes me feel suspicious and i feel like it would just make everything yeah...
it makes me nervous

'''Heart:''' yeah well uh that val really doesn't like it either because uh for obvious reasons

'''Chris:''' yeah well val's psychic and you know he can always ask for protection let literally go find kai and visit him personally

'''Heart:''' well kai won't speak to val no on on any on any level that's why that's what's worrying he keeps blocking himself off
yes yes on every on every level on every on every level in every place and multiple times ... i know i yeah i i understand it's
frustrating and it's not and it's partially not your problem but the thing is kai has inserted himself into your life
and into you know into mama's life and sonni and Sonichu's so just be careful

Speaker 4: it's something that you know that would pique interest you know it's a very specific interest

'''Heart:''' yeah yeah and and also the whole dungeons and dragons thing and not knowing it just you know doesn't something

'''Spade:''' how do you live in Ruckgersville and not know who Chris chan is that's just kind of

'''Heart:''' yeah

'''Chris:''' (unintelligible) Virginia

'''Spade:''' oh

Speaker 4: okay that makes a bit more sense

'''Spade:''' yeah okay

'''Chris:''' (unintelligible) 64 to take y'all to keep that strictly confidential

'''Everyone else responds:''' yeah

'''Heart:''' well you know you you know anything that you anything that you or mama tell us is confidential stays confidential

'''Chris:''' yes thanks

'''Heart:'''any time

Speaker 4: the other thing that um piqued my interest was the fact that kai you know i'm still new i'm i'm not i don't know too much
um ... huh?

Speaker 3: uh i'm not really too familiar but go on it's all right

Speaker 4: um oh shoot my train

'''Chris:''' (unintelligible)

All: (laughter)

'''Spade:''' sorry

Speaker 4: i was just like wait

Speaker 3: um by the way how you how's your night going Sonichu

'''Chris:''' well going fair going as well as it can be to just go to this dress up earlier today as was telling everybody else and uh
and very much taking a break by binging stuff bending cartoons on hbo max

'''Spade:''': i hope yeah i hope you're enjoying it because there's a lot of good cons on hbo max right now

'''Chris:''': they got hannah barbara classics on there

Speaker 5: do they have any 90s cartoons on there by any chance?

'''Chris:''': 90s cartoons?

Speaker 5: yeah

Speaker 4: like rocco's modern life cat dog

'''Chris:''': yeah they don't have nickelodeon on there

Speaker 5: no i'm talking no cartoon network i'm talking about old school cartoon network do they have it because hbo is owned by warner

'''Chris:''': yeah uh the only thing i found on there that's from past day cartoon network so far was og powerpuff girls

Speaker 5: oh awesome

Speaker 3: i don't like the new version of the powerpuff girls

Speaker 5: no that no that person sucks ass

'''Spade:''': like why did they take the boobies away like what's so offensive about boobs people have them they feed their children with them

Speaker 5: miss Bella

'''Chris:''': were children they weren't supposed to have

'''Spade:''': oh no not the powerpuff girls like all the other female characters in the show they like removed all well

Speaker 4: like like the mayor's assistants and all that and the teacher and stuff they just like it just seemed really unnecessary to
change their designs in that way

Speaker 4: um i haven't watched the reboot i just saw like the one episode where they were all twerking and i was like i i can't i'm sorry

Speaker 5: i don't blame you yeah that show is a piece of shit anyway it's like that new uh uh my little pony cartoon that just showed up

'''Chris:''': and even and i even yeah i mean i'm continuing to watch that you know at least once one time per episode
and just you know continue to monitor it they have pure new voice and discord now

Speaker 4: yes my favorite my favorite peter knew my my big mac sorry geeking out

'''Chris:''': and the premiere episode get this mount volcan nope oh yeah okay that came out yesterday

Speaker 4: i did i did i need to catch up on that

'''Chris:''': yes and uh also even dr wolf commented like you know you got these you got these short episodes are like about five minutes or so
i'm trying to fit a life lesson in in in them but it's like there's definitely not enough time to validate such such lesson as
as well as in the episode g and the episode g4 did

Speaker 4: here's like here's my like personal view on it i feel like it's pinkie pie's view of her friends that's what i feel like

'''Chris:''': yeah it's a quote dr wolf when i heard him it's all go go go go go

Speaker 4: yeah it's to me pony life seems like just the pinkie pie and

'''Chris:''': just not think about it to even get the most bit of enjoyment out of it and even even with this brain it just essentially stays
off and i was going and i went into the into the uh pilot of the series you know which is neutral expectations even though i
even know everybody have foreseen how bad it was going to be and then you saw the uh the tweet at post sales like just drowning
i just couldn't help but crowd the majority of this show

Speaker 4: oh yeah well for me it was like you know it's just like the only thing i could ever credit is they literally took the my
little pony and made them my little ponies that's pretty much all they did but

'''Chris:''': and by the way captain yeah we might heard it about this but kathy west sucks not watching spike in go pony but top of the sink

Speaker 4: yeah and i heard i was like hmm that's really interesting but you know i mean it would be nice to have the original spike

'''Chris:''': yeah basically i mean the main six are original voice actresses but yeah discord saying nope

Speaker 4: that discord meme where it's like he takes out his eyes and he he rolls them like dice and throws them away that's how i feel

'''Chris:''': that one yeah i mean our original discord in c197s equestria definitely is like rolling his eyes all over the place but having
just seen you know cz 69 discord video nope nope nope

Speaker 4: um but what my back to on my train i caught my train

'''Chris:''': yay!

Speaker 4: i meant to say that the thing that concerned me about kai or at least put a little made my hair stand up
was that they did on vice the channel vice released the documentary of you of your mama so and i know a lot of people watch
tv vice at least the channel so i was a bit surprised

'''Heart:''': wow i forgot i forgot about that spunk yeah that's a good yeah good on you i forgot about the vice piece because
so many people have done that

'''Chris:''': uh huh yeah are you talking about like cable television

'''Heart:''': yeah devices yeah vices everywhere uh vices made very very mainstream

'''Spade:''': yeah

'''Heart:''': so yeah there's no way that you could you know could not run across it

'''Spade:''': yeah i watched it i love their documentaries they're awesome

'''Chris:''':(unintelligible) where kai was living previously for like well over a year uh he has not he has not had too much access to cable
television so he has highly unlikely seen this vice channel at all

'''Heart:''': is that one of the reasons why he had to borrow money for groceries

'''Chris:''': no no no that's not the case it's not that he needs a no he did not it was not borrowing money at all it's just that he was
low on money for himself and he needed more food so i opted so i opted to help him out there

Speaker 4: that's very kind of you yeah you know

'''Heart:''': yeah you you or mama yeah

'''Chris:''': all right so now back to this

'''Heart:''': wait was it was it your your idea or was it mama's idea

'''Chris:''': uh part yeah partly my idea but yeah originated from mama she put into my put into my mind and then i ended up thinking of it
and yada yada it happened

Speaker 4:okay

'''Chris:''': okay that's this vice channel there's they've been airing the documentaries of chris chan over there on that cable shadow

Speaker 4: yes i saw it myself because um actually i was flipping through channels because you know um my brain is kind of a ... cloud i

'''Chris:''': don't know we all have cloudy brains

Speaker 4: yeah well you know how my brains work it's like an archive of libraries you pull a book and then sometimes you lose
the book and you misplace the book it's it's it's very different um but i was flipping through channels and i saw a commercial for vice um
and it caught my eye because i saw it said chris chan and i was like hold on that's very odd so that's why i tagged
you in that twitter tweet saying well your mom i tagged your mom in that twitter tweet saying would you would you watch
this because i was i didn't know if you were aware but yeah i i know a lot of people watch vice especially for documentaries or just you
know that's what they mainly do if i'm correct i don't watch too much of it but i know that mostly cops and reality shows are on there

'''Chris:''': hmm i'm trying i'm looking i'm just googling uh you know vice channel and chris chan and i'm not seeing much results for
cable channel although there is apparently there's a vice tv app

Speaker 4: yes they have an app too but it's a channel on dish network because my parents haven't but it's too expensive
for me i can't afford cable or the cable dish packs stuff of that nature

Speaker 5: who even watches cable tv anymore i just fucking pirate

'''Chris:''': um yeah we still have we still have cable we may and we definitely mainly end up using it for our wi-fi but we also have it on for
pretty much the music channels yeah pretty much been doing we've been pretty much doing the majority off television show watching via
the via the internet

Speaker 4: yeah that's fair i mean nowadays hulu netflix those kind of channels are taking over cable because it's more accessible and
cheaper you know but yeah i didn't know vice had an app i just saw it um on the television and then on the twitter
on twitter um it talked about airing on a sunday i remember ...

'''Chris:''': let's see

Speaker 4:i can send you that in the um discord server the quick quick court if you guys want that

'''Heart:''': yeah

Speaker 4: yeah i'll send that

'''Chris:''': oh i just did a google advice tv channel there's a wikipedia article on it apparently it says here that it's an american basic
cable channel based on digital the digital media company and print magazine same name owned by a joint venture majority owned by
a&e networks known as viceland until december 2nd you know learn something new every moment

Speaker 4: well i i i don't watch a lot of it i mainly say on cartoon network and stuff of that nature

'''Chris:''': yeah so so did mama yeah

'''Spade:''':cartoons are awesome cartoon cartoons

Speaker 5:oh yeah!

'''Spade:''': so Sonichu have you seen the new um teenage mutant ninja turtles series rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles

'''Chris:''': yeah

'''Spade:''': yeah i'm really into it

Speaker 4:it's it's actually pretty good i was i was i'm not a huge fan TMNT but i gave that a chance and i was like you know what
that's not bad yeah

'''Spade:''': it's pretty entertaining

Speaker 5: i grew up watching the 2003 uh show that was on that was a good one that was on for kids tv

'''Spade:''': brings me back to the old saturday mornings on the fox box watching kirby sonic and turtles

Speaker 4: orgetics yeah that too

'''Chris:''': yeah mama watched the classic ninja turtles back in the 90s and she also did and she also checked out the crossover movie and
she's also watched some of the cg on nickelodeon

'''Spade:''': oh yeah i love that one too i love them all i just like turtles

Speaker 4: i like turtles i love that yeah

'''Spade:''': ironically i like turtles i am that meme i suppose they're just such cute little critters!

Speaker 4: um my friend actually saved a huge soft shell turtle on the road the other day he sent me a picture of it and i was like whoa

'''Spade:''': poor baby i hope i'm really glad he saved it oh yeah he's doing the middle of the road though silly think i know it was
mind you it's a flat those flat soft shell turtles like they normally stay in the water i'm they anger pancakes yes they they zoom
they zoom but yeah like i think it was because it was raining that day and um i live in the south so a lot of creeks and stuff rise and
fall in this area because of the humidity so yeah it might have got out of the creek or something

'''Spade:''': yeah it's possible that it didn't have enough water or food to sustain it so he's looking for a new puddle to curl up in

Speaker 4: yeah but it's like it was huge it's like about it's like um it's a very thick turtle

'''Spade:''':i like soft shells they're funny looking

Speaker 4: my favorite ones are the little yellow belly sliders oh yes ... (unintelligible)

'''Spade:''': there's the ornate box turtle which has like a little yellow belly and yellow spots on it yeah that's probably not what you're
talking about though if it's slider anyways turtles

Speaker 4: it's the ones with the red on their side of their face

'''Spade:''': oh yeah yeah i know what you're talking about that's a red-eared slider yeah i thought they were yellow bellythat might have
been my mistake nah they have yellow bellies they just they're called the red eared slider common for pets because they're so cute

Speaker 4: but people just don't know how to take care of them and it makes me upset it's

Speaker 2:really sad

'''Chris:''': they really have red ears?

'''Spade:''': um yeah they have red markings that go across their ear sort of moon shaped ones it's

'''Chris:''': they're very very tiny and they're super super fast they are turtles are super super fast

Speaker 4: yeah well some of them some of them some of them watch out wisely rabbit

'''Spade:''': indeed

Speaker 4: definitely

'''Chris:''': let me see some maybe cecil tortoise was one of those red red moon turtles

Speaker 4:probably

'''Spade:''': it would make sense

'''Chris:''': yeah and that name is actually memory cause mama and murray and likes the looney tunes show

Speaker 4: oh

'''Chris:''': you know she remembers you know that that turtle is his name is cecil and yeah by a cecil turtle and he was working in an office out
of his chair he has his co-worker julie she'll help him take it off that back (unintelligible)

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[[Category:Phone calls]]

CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)

2020-08-15T05:52:58Z

Mansus:

{{Incomplete}}

The following is a conversation that several [[Watchmen]] had with Chris over Google Hangout on 20 July 2020.

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==Description==
{{quotebox|What'd you expect?

The identities of those who participated?}}

==Transcript==

'''Heart:''' you uh was it wasn't that funny to see i remember uh you showed up in the mat at the internet uh discord server and there was a lot of uh exceptional behavior going on that day to the point where i i don't know if you know who Darkseid Phil is but Darkseid Phil is this individual who does let's plays and he was yeah and uh that on that day he he got kicked off of twitch so everybody in that server was freaking out over that and then half the internet went down because of cloud player so once so by the time you showed up in the in in the mat at the internet server people quite literally couldn't believe that that was that that was Sonichu because yeah and also in the past uh there's also a lot of people also a lot of people you know you obviously know this but there's people who've been pretended to be Sonichu on discord and and on other platforms so they p probably thought it was a fake and since they did and since they don't know you and how you know your your particular style of writing like any any true chritorian would have been able to look at that and tell like oh yeah that's that's

'''Chris:''' ...yeah especially with all the things that I've seen and experienced

'''Heart:''' yeah i i like the way i like the way you bantered back and forth uh forward because you were expecting or you know so uh you know i i don't i'm
not sure what you were expecting i don't want to assume anything but the way you said like go ahead and show me your pick you're the the troll
you know like you you took care of it like like a boss you were ready to take to take them on and i like it because but if you notice nobody nobody said anything because you know they know even though even though mine is not in there some of the the people who matter in that server know that i'm bismuth that's why that's why i said hi that's why i tagged you and tagged you and said hi i know you've been playing uh dnd recently because you used the term you know chaotic uh you know chaotic good and that confused that that confused some people and i and i was trying to tell them like it's a it's a you know it's a dungeon in the dragon's term you know come on

'''Chris:''' yeah

'''Heart:''' yeah like read a book you know (giggling)

'''Chris:''' but yeah i wanted to make sure i was i wanted to make sure they knew that it was me and that meant not mom and not mama Chris chan so yeah i just essentially put my foot
forward i'd be like hey i like my dick's mostly pink!

'''Heart:''' yeah that
was but yeah that was funny as fuck that that made me laugh so hard um and you you like just just just as like uh just as Josh you know said to you you brought so much you you bring and you brought so much fucking joy to this world and you continue to do so that's why one of the reasons why you know we you need to remain safe

'''Spade:''' yeah you're amazing Sonichu

'''Heart:''' yeah we want nothing but the best for you

'''Chris:''' (mumbling)

'''Chris:''' i must be in the same dimension as Rosie that's the most valuable thing i think she's right next to me so it's like we're literally so near yet so far

'''Spade:''' yeah

'''Heart:''' ...That's that's that's really sweet i wish i wish more wish more people didn't try to use didn't uh i wouldn't try to weaponize a Roseachu against you because they know you know that that i i love that little couplet that you wrote you know as long as the birds tweet you shall be my heart sweet

'''Chris:''' (laughing)

'''Spade:''' it was adorable yeah so corny but cute

'''Heart:''' no it's not even corny it's cute i like i like it fight me it looks cute still is

'''Chris:''' that's a big cuteness oh boy and i like and then i definitely like what the trick was this trick quite tricky at her book you know hey i can see i can hey are you a ship cause i can see us doing meows to me out

'''Heart:''' that is pretty funny

'''Chris:''' it's just you know the stupid cheesy corny flirt lines or something Rosie and i did have back in the day (mumbling)

'''Heart:''' oh so oh sorry it's just a uh it's an interview with this uh fella named uh Darkside Phil the person that i was mentioning they're doing a little interview with him he's trying to explain why he was kicked off of Twitch

Speaker 3: who's twitch who's interviewing him?

'''Heart:''' oh uh he's interviewing he's interviewing himself because he's too afraid to because Darkseid Phil is a genuinely like nasty person so he won't go on he won't speak to
anybody unless they pay him

'''Chris:''' so he's just like interviewing himself is he like playing two different characters himself and somebody entirely different

'''Heart:''' he's just uh he'll state he'll state uh one thing he'll say like so my detractor said this and then he'll respond to himself

'''Chris:''' okay

'''Heart:''' yeah it's called it's called it's called a hug box and that's one of the reasons that's one of the many reasons why you know you're awesome because you don't you know you're willing to go outside uh yeah you're willing to go outside that box

'''Chris:''' yep

'''Heart:''' not a lot of people are they just want to stay in places where oh you know their their narrow minded views are reinforced

'''Chris:''' yeah and then also some also

'''Heart:''' exploring!

'''Chris:''' yeah if they are talking to somebody else they want to make sure they are being clearly understood that they are understanding the other people that's uh that's kind of like the reasons why mama doesn't typically have her ears doesn't like you know phone conversation as much especially when you got the person in the other room that's (unintelligible)
conversation with kai and more than half the time uh look at this (unintelligible) all right so it's like he definitely confirms the magic (unintelligible)

'''Heart:''' yeah it's it's okay it's okay does he does he really speaks yeah does he does he speak that quick? or does he just simply bombard you with information

'''Chris:''' yeah he he literally kind of like did the combination of fast and low talking uh he took a baby test he had drank like a bunch like some energy drinks and some sodas before

'''Heart:''' so yeah soda's not nice soda's does not good for you you know you gotta you know you gotta mix things up

'''Chris:''' and he also definitely definitely drinks some water at times as well so there's that yeah

'''Spade:''' so it's kind of like a fast mumble?

'''Chris:''' yeah that's what it sounds like yes

'''Heart:''' hmm that's why i try to articulate my words

'''Chris:''' yeah you know i get the same level you know according to memory when mama tried talking with Jake over the phone the uh vocals the way that he speaks that's about the same amount that's about nearly this similar difficulty i get from high school it's not exact but similar

'''Heart:''' yeah that's well that's not a good sign you know you you're into it yeah yeah use your intuition you know it to be true you know

'''Chris:''' but of course uh yeah kai is definitely different from Jake he's like the total opposite

'''Heart:''' well yeah well what i mean by what i mean by that is can you know people who are confused sometimes tend to tend to be the same it's not that he's possibly even malicious but it's just that he could just be another confused person you know because we because we we still don't know uh like uh does did he know did he know about did he know about mama before all of this? did he know about mama from from the documentaries? or what

'''Chris:''' no he never knew yeah he never knew about mama Chris chan until the day she went to that first dungeons and dragons session and met him there

'''Heart:''' i i don't understand how that's possible i i don't understand how that's possible though your mom is so famous yeah my mama's infamous especially remember
uh mama left that sign uh out in front of that that how uh out in front of there and even the store owners knew it was news from mama yeah so it's so weird

'''Chris:''' and kai is not one of those it goes goes on often with the social medias

'''Heart:''' oh well he so he had no power so he so he and the rest of the group did not really have much prior knowledge about mama (unintelligible) and everything so it just decides they have they chaos the internet on that point so that was definitely a good thing that we said that channel the others sat down and foreseen in that particular dnd group

Speaker 4: um if i may ask Sonichu is this the person you drew a picture for for their Sonichu oc?

'''Chris:''' yeah darkri Sonichu

Speaker 4: yeah that's right because i remember i remember you telling me that that's very interesting i was just curious if that was
the same person

'''Chris:''' yeah that's yeah that's him

Speaker 4: okay

'''Heart:''' uh yeah no that was a good question to ask yeah that's actually something that you

'''Spade:''' try to talk to us and like hang out we're not

'''Heart:''' yeah exactly just come yeah yeah just come hang it just come hang out with us you know we all

'''Chris:''' difficulties as well

'''Heart:''' i mean we i mean every each of us each of us here do come on like let's we're we're all we're all we're all friends
here we we all do i don't know there's nothing yeah there's nothing for him you know there's nothing for him to be scared of
just

'''Spade:''' and It feels like he's avoiding us and that makes me feel suspicious and i feel like it would just make everything yeah...
it makes me nervous

'''Heart:''' yeah well uh that val really doesn't like it either because uh for obvious reasons

'''Chris:''' yeah well val's psychic and you know he can always ask for protection let literally go find kai and visit him personally

'''Heart:''' well kai won't speak to val no on on any on any level that's why that's what's worrying he keeps blocking himself off
yes yes on every on every level on every on every level in every place and multiple times ... i know i yeah i i understand it's
frustrating and it's not and it's partially not your problem but the thing is kai has inserted himself into your life
and into you know into mama's life and sonni and Sonichu's so just be careful

Speaker 4: it's something that you know that would pique interest you know it's a very specific interest

'''Heart:''' yeah yeah and and also the whole dungeons and dragons thing and not knowing it just you know doesn't something

'''Spade:''' how do you live in Ruckgersville and not know who Chris chan is that's just kind of

'''Heart:''' yeah

'''Chris:''' (unintelligible) Virginia

'''Spade:''' oh

Speaker 4: okay that makes a bit more sense

'''Spade:''' yeah okay

'''Chris:''' (unintelligible) 64 to take y'all to keep that strictly confidential

'''Everyone else responds:''' yeah

'''Heart:''' well you know you you know anything that you anything that you or mama tell us is confidential stays confidential

'''Chris:''' yes thanks

'''Heart:'''any time

Speaker 4: the other thing that um piqued my interest was the fact that kai you know i'm still new i'm i'm not i don't know too much
um ... huh?

Speaker 3: uh i'm not really too familiar but go on it's all right

Speaker 4: um oh shoot my train

'''Chris:''' (unintelligible)

All: (laughter)

'''Spade:''' sorry

Speaker 4: i was just like wait

Speaker 3: um by the way how you how's your night going Sonichu

'''Chris:''' well going fair going as well as it can be to just go to this dress up earlier today as was telling everybody else and uh
and very much taking a break by binging stuff bending cartoons on hbo max

'''Spade:''': i hope yeah i hope you're enjoying it because there's a lot of good cons on hbo max right now

'''Chris:''': they got hannah barbara classics on there

Speaker 5: do they have any 90s cartoons on there by any chance?

'''Chris:''': 90s cartoons?

Speaker 5: yeah

Speaker 4: like rocco's modern life cat dog

'''Chris:''': yeah they don't have nickelodeon on there

Speaker 5: no i'm talking no cartoon network i'm talking about old school cartoon network do they have it because hbo is owned by warner

'''Chris:''': yeah uh the only thing i found on there that's from past day cartoon network so far was og powerpuff girls

Speaker 5: oh awesome

Speaker 3: i don't like the new version of the powerpuff girls

Speaker 5: no that no that person sucks ass

'''Spade:''': like why did they take the boobies away like what's so offensive about boobs people have them they feed their children with them

Speaker 5: miss Bella

'''Chris:''': were children they weren't supposed to have

'''Spade:''': oh no not the powerpuff girls like all the other female characters in the show they like removed all well

Speaker 4: like like the mayor's assistants and all that and the teacher and stuff they just like it just seemed really unnecessary to
change their designs in that way

Speaker 4: um i haven't watched the reboot i just saw like the one episode where they were all twerking and i was like i i can't i'm sorry

Speaker 5: i don't blame you yeah that show is a piece of shit anyway it's like that new uh uh my little pony cartoon that just showed up

'''Chris:''': and even and i even yeah i mean i'm continuing to watch that you know at least once one time per episode
and just you know continue to monitor it they have pure new voice and discord now

Speaker 4: yes my favorite my favorite peter knew my my big mac sorry geeking out

'''Chris:''': and the premiere episode get this mount volcan nope oh yeah okay that came out yesterday

Speaker 4: i did i did i need to catch up on that

'''Chris:''': yes and uh also even dr wolf commented like you know you got these you got these short episodes are like about five minutes or so
i'm trying to fit a life lesson in in in them but it's like there's definitely not enough time to validate such such lesson as
as well as in the episode g and the episode g4 did

Speaker 4: here's like here's my like personal view on it i feel like it's pinkie pie's view of her friends that's what i feel like

'''Chris:''': yeah it's a quote dr wolf when i heard him it's all go go go go go

Speaker 4: yeah it's to me pony life seems like just the pinkie pie and

'''Chris:''': just not think about it to even get the most bit of enjoyment out of it and even even with this brain it just essentially stays
off and i was going and i went into the into the uh pilot of the series you know which is neutral expectations even though i
even know everybody have foreseen how bad it was going to be and then you saw the uh the tweet at post sales like just drowning
i just couldn't help but crowd the majority of this show

Speaker 4: oh yeah well for me it was like you know it's just like the only thing i could ever credit is they literally took the my
little pony and made them my little ponies that's pretty much all they did but

'''Chris:''': and by the way captain yeah we might heard it about this but kathy west sucks not watching spike in go pony but top of the sink

Speaker 4: yeah and i heard i was like hmm that's really interesting but you know i mean it would be nice to have the original spike

'''Chris:''': yeah basically i mean the main six are original voice actresses but yeah discord saying nope

Speaker 4: that discord meme where it's like he takes out his eyes and he he rolls them like dice and throws them away that's how i feel

'''Chris:''': that one yeah i mean our original discord in c197s equestria definitely is like rolling his eyes all over the place but having
just seen you know cz 69 discord video nope nope nope

Speaker 4: um but what my back to on my train i caught my train

'''Chris:''': yay!

Speaker 4: i meant to say that the thing that concerned me about kai or at least put a little made my hair stand up
was that they did on vice the channel vice released the documentary of you of your mama so and i know a lot of people watch
tv vice at least the channel so i was a bit surprised

'''Heart:''': wow i forgot i forgot about that spunk yeah that's a good yeah good on you i forgot about the vice piece because
so many people have done that

'''Chris:''': uh huh yeah are you talking about like cable television

'''Heart:''': yeah devices yeah vices everywhere uh vices made very very mainstream

'''Spade:''': yeah

'''Heart:''': so yeah there's no way that you could you know could not run across it

'''Spade:''': yeah i watched it i love their documentaries they're awesome

'''Chris:''':(unintelligible) where kai was living previously for like well over a year uh he has not he has not had too much access to cable
television so he has highly unlikely seen this vice channel at all

'''Heart:''': is that one of the reasons why he had to borrow money for groceries

'''Chris:''': no no no that's not the case it's not that he needs a no he did not it was not borrowing money at all it's just that he was
low on money for himself and he needed more food so i opted so i opted to help him out there

Speaker 4: that's very kind of you yeah you know

'''Heart:''': yeah you you or mama yeah

'''Chris:''': all right so now back to this

'''Heart:''': wait was it was it your your idea or was it mama's idea

'''Chris:''': uh part yeah partly my idea but yeah originated from mama she put into my put into my mind and then i ended up thinking of it
and yada yada it happened

Speaker 4:okay

'''Chris:''': okay that's this vice channel there's they've been airing the documentaries of chris chan over there on that cable shadow

Speaker 4: yes i saw it myself because um actually i was flipping through channels because you know um my brain is kind of a ... cloud i

'''Chris:''': don't know we all have cloudy brains

Speaker 4: yeah well you know how my brains work it's like an archive of libraries you pull a book and then sometimes you lose
the book and you misplace the book it's it's it's very different um but i was flipping through channels and i saw a commercial for vice um
and it caught my eye because i saw it said chris chan and i was like hold on that's very odd so that's why i tagged
you in that twitter tweet saying well your mom i tagged your mom in that twitter tweet saying would you would you watch
this because i was i didn't know if you were aware but yeah i i know a lot of people watch vice especially for documentaries or just you
know that's what they mainly do if i'm correct i don't watch too much of it but i know that mostly cops and reality shows are on there

'''Chris:''': hmm i'm trying i'm looking i'm just googling uh you know vice channel and chris chan and i'm not seeing much results for
cable channel although there is apparently there's a vice tv app

Speaker 4: yes they have an app too but it's a channel on dish network because my parents haven't but it's too expensive
for me i can't afford cable or the cable dish packs stuff of that nature

Speaker 5: who even watches cable tv anymore i just fucking pirate

'''Chris:''': um yeah we still have we still have cable we may and we definitely mainly end up using it for our wi-fi but we also have it on for
pretty much the music channels yeah pretty much been doing we've been pretty much doing the majority off television show watching via
the via the internet

Speaker 4: yeah that's fair i mean nowadays hulu netflix those kind of channels are taking over cable because it's more accessible and
cheaper you know but yeah i didn't know vice had an app i just saw it um on the television and then on the twitter
on twitter um it talked about airing on a sunday i remember ...

'''Chris:''': let's see

Speaker 4:i can send you that in the um discord server the quick quick court if you guys want that

'''Heart:''': yeah

Speaker 4: yeah i'll send that

'''Chris:''': oh i just did a google advice tv channel there's a wikipedia article on it apparently it says here that it's an american basic
cable channel based on digital the digital media company and print magazine same name owned by a joint venture majority owned by
a&e networks known as viceland until december 2nd you know learn something new every moment

Speaker 4: well i i i don't watch a lot of it i mainly say on cartoon network and stuff of that nature

'''Chris:''': yeah so so did mama yeah

'''Spade:''':cartoons are awesome cartoon cartoons

Speaker 5:oh yeah!

'''Spade:''': so Sonichu have you seen the new um teenage mutant ninja turtles series rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles

'''Chris:''': yeah

'''Spade:''': yeah i'm really into it

Speaker 4:it's it's actually pretty good i was i was i'm not a huge fan TMNT but i gave that a chance and i was like you know what
that's not bad yeah

'''Spade:''': it's pretty entertaining

Speaker 5: i grew up watching the 2003 uh show that was on that was a good one that was on for kids tv

'''Spade:''': brings me back to the old saturday mornings on the fox box watching kirby sonic and turtles

Speaker 4: orgetics yeah that too

'''Chris:''': yeah mama watched the classic ninja turtles back in the 90s and she also did and she also checked out the crossover movie and
she's also watched some of the cg on nickelodeon

'''Spade:''': oh yeah i love that one too i love them all i just like turtles

Speaker 4: i like turtles i love that yeah

'''Spade:''': ironically i like turtles i am that meme i suppose they're just such cute little critters!

Speaker 4: um my friend actually saved a huge soft shell turtle on the road the other day he sent me a picture of it and i was like whoa

'''Spade:''': poor baby i hope i'm really glad he saved it oh yeah he's doing the middle of the road though silly think i know it was
mind you it's a flat those flat soft shell turtles like they normally stay in the water i'm they anger pancakes yes they they zoom
they zoom but yeah like i think it was because it was raining that day and um i live in the south so a lot of creeks and stuff rise and
fall in this area because of the humidity so yeah it might have got out of the creek or something

'''Spade:''': yeah it's possible that it didn't have enough water or food to sustain it so he's looking for a new puddle to curl up in

Speaker 4: yeah but it's like it was huge it's like about it's like um it's a very thick turtle

'''Spade:''':i like soft shells they're funny looking

Speaker 4: my favorite ones are the little yellow belly sliders oh yes ... (unintelligible)

'''Spade:''': there's the ornate box turtle which has like a little yellow belly and yellow spots on it yeah that's probably not what you're
talking about though if it's slider anyways turtles

Speaker 4: it's the ones with the red on their side of their face

'''Spade:''': oh yeah yeah i know what you're talking about that's a red-eared slider yeah i thought they were yellow bellythat might have
been my mistake nah they have yellow bellies they just they're called the red eared slider common for pets because they're so cute

Speaker 4: but people just don't know how to take care of them and it makes me upset it's

Speaker 2:really sad

'''Chris:''': they really have red ears?

'''Spade:''': um yeah they have red markings that go across their ear sort of moon shaped ones it's

'''Chris:''': they're very very tiny and they're super super fast they are turtles are super super fast

Speaker 4: yeah well some of them some of them some of them watch out wisely rabbit

'''Spade:''': indeed

Speaker 4: definitely

'''Chris:''': let me see some maybe cecil tortoise was one of those red red moon turtles

Speaker 4:probably

'''Spade:''': it would make sense

'''Chris:''': yeah and that name is actually memory cause mama and murray and likes the looney tunes show

Speaker 4: oh

'''Chris:''': you know she remembers you know that that turtle is his name is cecil and yeah by a cecil turtle and he was working in an office out
of his chair he has his co-worker julie she'll help him take it off that back (unintelligible)

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CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)

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The following is a conversation that several [[Watchmen]] had with Chris over Google Hangout on 20 July 2020.

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'''Heart:''' you uh was it wasn't that funny to see i remember uh you showed up in the mat at the internet uh discord server and there was a lot of uh exceptional behavior going on that day to the point where i i don't know if you know who Darkseid Phil is but Darkseid Phil is this individual who does let's plays and he was yeah and uh that on that day he he got kicked off of twitch so everybody in that server was freaking out over that and then half the internet went down because of cloud player so once so by the time you showed up in the in in the mat at the internet server people quite literally couldn't believe that that was that that was Sonichu because yeah and also in the past uh there's also a lot of people also a lot of people you know you obviously know this but there's people who've been pretended to be Sonichu on discord and and on other platforms so they p probably thought it was a fake and since they did and since they don't know you and how you know your your particular style of writing like any any true chritorian would have been able to look at that and tell like oh yeah that's that's

'''Chris:''' ...yeah especially with all the things that I've seen and experienced

'''Heart:''' yeah i i like the way i like the way you bantered back and forth uh forward because you were expecting or you know so uh you know i i don't i'm
not sure what you were expecting i don't want to assume anything but the way you said like go ahead and show me your pick you're the the troll
you know like you you took care of it like like a boss you were ready to take to take them on and i like it because but if you notice nobody nobody said anything because you know they know even though even though mine is not in there some of the the people who matter in that server know that i'm bismuth that's why that's why i said hi that's why i tagged you and tagged you and said hi i know you've been playing uh dnd recently because you used the term you know chaotic uh you know chaotic good and that confused that that confused some people and i and i was trying to tell them like it's a it's a you know it's a dungeon in the dragon's term you know come on

'''Chris:''' yeah

'''Heart:''' yeah like read a book you know (giggling)

'''Chris:''' but yeah i wanted to make sure i was i wanted to make sure they knew that it was me and that meant not mom and not mama Chris chan so yeah i just essentially put my foot
forward i'd be like hey i like my dick's mostly pink!

'''Heart:''' yeah that
was but yeah that was funny as fuck that that made me laugh so hard um and you you like just just just as like uh just as Josh you know said to you you brought so much you you bring and you brought so much fucking joy to this world and you continue to do so that's why one of the reasons why you know we you need to remain safe

'''Spade:''' yeah you're amazing Sonichu

'''Heart:''' yeah we want nothing but the best for you

'''Chris:''' (mumbling)

'''Chris:''' i must be in the same dimension as Rosie that's the most valuable thing i think she's right next to me so it's like we're literally so near yet so far

'''Spade:''' yeah

'''Heart:''' ...That's that's that's really sweet i wish i wish more wish more people didn't try to use didn't uh i wouldn't try to weaponize a Roseachu against you because they know you know that that i i love that little couplet that you wrote you know as long as the birds tweet you shall be my heart sweet

'''Chris:''' (laughing)

'''Spade:''' it was adorable yeah so corny but cute

'''Heart:''' no it's not even corny it's cute i like i like it fight me it looks cute still is

'''Chris:''' that's a big cuteness oh boy and i like and then i definitely like what the trick was this trick quite tricky at her book you know hey i can see i can hey are you a ship cause i can see us doing meows to me out

'''Heart:''' that is pretty funny

'''Chris:''' it's just you know the stupid cheesy corny flirt lines or something Rosie and i did have back in the day (mumbling)

'''Heart:''' oh so oh sorry it's just a uh it's an interview with this uh fella named uh Darkside Phil the person that i was mentioning they're doing a little interview with him he's trying to explain why he was kicked off of Twitch

Speaker 3: who's twitch who's interviewing him?

'''Heart:''' oh uh he's interviewing he's interviewing himself because he's too afraid to because Darkseid Phil is a genuinely like nasty person so he won't go on he won't speak to
anybody unless they pay him

'''Chris:''' so he's just like interviewing himself is he like playing two different characters himself and somebody entirely different

'''Heart:''' he's just uh he'll state he'll state uh one thing he'll say like so my detractor said this and then he'll respond to himself

'''Chris:''' okay

'''Heart:''' yeah it's called it's called it's called a hug box and that's one of the reasons that's one of the many reasons why you know you're awesome because you don't you know you're willing to go outside uh yeah you're willing to go outside that box

'''Chris:''' yep

'''Heart:''' not a lot of people are they just want to stay in places where oh you know their their narrow minded views are reinforced

'''Chris:''' yeah and then also some also

'''Heart:''' exploring!

'''Chris:''' yeah if they are talking to somebody else they want to make sure they are being clearly understood that they are understanding the other people that's uh that's kind of like the reasons why mama doesn't typically have her ears doesn't like you know phone conversation as much especially when you got the person in the other room that's (unintelligible)
conversation with kai and more than half the time uh look at this (unintelligible) all right so it's like he definitely confirms the magic (unintelligible)

'''Heart:''' yeah it's it's okay it's okay does he does he really speaks yeah does he does he speak that quick? or does he just simply bombard you with information

'''Chris:''' yeah he he literally kind of like did the combination of fast and low talking uh he took a baby test he had drank like a bunch like some energy drinks and some sodas before

'''Heart:''' so yeah soda's not nice soda's does not good for you you know you gotta you know you gotta mix things up

'''Chris:''' and he also definitely definitely drinks some water at times as well so there's that yeah

'''Spade:''' so it's kind of like a fast mumble?

'''Chris:''' yeah that's what it sounds like yes

'''Heart:''' hmm that's why i try to articulate my words

'''Chris:''' yeah you know i get the same level you know according to memory when mama tried talking with Jake over the phone the uh vocals the way that he speaks that's about the same amount that's about nearly this similar difficulty i get from high school it's not exact but similar

'''Heart:''' yeah that's well that's not a good sign you know you you're into it yeah yeah use your intuition you know it to be true you know

'''Chris:''' but of course uh yeah kai is definitely different from Jake he's like the total opposite

'''Heart:''' well yeah well what i mean by what i mean by that is can you know people who are confused sometimes tend to tend to be the same it's not that he's possibly even malicious but it's just that he could just be another confused person you know because we because we we still don't know uh like uh does did he know did he know about did he know about mama before all of this? did he know about mama from from the documentaries? or what

'''Chris:''' no he never knew yeah he never knew about mama Chris chan until the day she went to that first dungeons and dragons session and met him there

'''Heart:''' i i don't understand how that's possible i i don't understand how that's possible though your mom is so famous yeah my mama's infamous especially remember
uh mama left that sign uh out in front of that that how uh out in front of there and even the store owners knew it was news from mama yeah so it's so weird

'''Chris:''' and kai is not one of those it goes goes on often with the social medias

'''Heart:''' oh well he so he had no power so he so he and the rest of the group did not really have much prior knowledge about mama (unintelligible) and everything so it just decides they have they chaos the internet on that point so that was definitely a good thing that we said that channel the others sat down and foreseen in that particular dnd group

Speaker 4: um if i may ask Sonichu is this the person you drew a picture for for their Sonichu oc?

'''Chris:''' yeah darkri Sonichu

Speaker 4: yeah that's right because i remember i remember you telling me that that's very interesting i was just curious if that was
the same person

'''Chris:''' yeah that's yeah that's him

Speaker 4: okay

'''Heart:''' uh yeah no that was a good question to ask yeah that's actually something that you

'''Spade:''' try to talk to us and like hang out we're not

'''Heart:''' yeah exactly just come yeah yeah just come hang it just come hang out with us you know we all

'''Chris:''' difficulties as well

'''Heart:''' i mean we i mean every each of us each of us here do come on like let's we're we're all we're all we're all friends
here we we all do i don't know there's nothing yeah there's nothing for him you know there's nothing for him to be scared of
just

'''Spade:''' and It feels like he's avoiding us and that makes me feel suspicious and i feel like it would just make everything yeah...
it makes me nervous

'''Heart:''' yeah well uh that val really doesn't like it either because uh for obvious reasons

'''Chris:''' yeah well val's psychic and you know he can always ask for protection let literally go find kai and visit him personally

'''Heart:''' well kai won't speak to val no on on any on any level that's why that's what's worrying he keeps blocking himself off
yes yes on every on every level on every on every level in every place and multiple times ... i know i yeah i i understand it's
frustrating and it's not and it's partially not your problem but the thing is kai has inserted himself into your life
and into you know into mama's life and sonni and Sonichu's so just be careful

Speaker 4: it's something that you know that would pique interest you know it's a very specific interest

'''Heart:''' yeah yeah and and also the whole dungeons and dragons thing and not knowing it just you know doesn't something

'''Spade:''' how do you live in Ruckgersville and not know who Chris chan is that's just kind of

'''Heart:''' yeah

'''Chris:''' (unintelligible) Virginia

'''Spade:''' oh

Speaker 4: okay that makes a bit more sense

'''Spade:''' yeah okay

'''Chris:''' (unintelligible) 64 to take y'all to keep that strictly confidential

'''Everyone else responds:''' yeah

'''Heart:''' well you know you you know anything that you anything that you or mama tell us is confidential stays confidential

'''Chris:''' yes thanks

'''Heart:'''any time

Speaker 4: the other thing that um piqued my interest was the fact that kai you know i'm still new i'm i'm not i don't know too much
um ... huh?

Speaker 3: uh i'm not really too familiar but go on it's all right

Speaker 4: um oh shoot my train

'''Chris:''' (unintelligible)

All: (laughter)

'''Spade:''' sorry

Speaker 4: i was just like wait

Speaker 3: um by the way how you how's your night going Sonichu

'''Chris:''' well going fair going as well as it can be to just go to this dress up earlier today as was telling everybody else and uh
and very much taking a break by binging stuff bending cartoons on hbo max

'''Spade:''': i hope yeah i hope you're enjoying it because there's a lot of good cons on hbo max right now

'''Chris:''': they got hannah barbara classics on there

Speaker 5: do they have any 90s cartoons on there by any chance?

'''Chris:''': 90s cartoons?

Speaker 5: yeah

Speaker 4: like rocco's modern life cat dog

'''Chris:''': yeah they don't have nickelodeon on there

Speaker 5: no i'm talking no cartoon network i'm talking about old school cartoon network do they have it because hbo is owned by warner

'''Chris:''': yeah uh the only thing i found on there that's from past day cartoon network so far was og powerpuff girls

Speaker 5: oh awesome

Speaker 3: i don't like the new version of the powerpuff girls

Speaker 5: no that no that person sucks ass

'''Spade:''': like why did they take the boobies away like what's so offensive about boobs people have them they feed their children with them

Speaker 5: miss Bella

'''Chris:''': were children they weren't supposed to have

'''Spade:''': oh no not the powerpuff girls like all the other female characters in the show they like removed all well

Speaker 4: like like the mayor's assistants and all that and the teacher and stuff they just like it just seemed really unnecessary to
change their designs in that way

Speaker 4: um i haven't watched the reboot i just saw like the one episode where they were all twerking and i was like i i can't i'm sorry

Speaker 5: i don't blame you yeah that show is a piece of shit anyway it's like that new uh uh my little pony cartoon that just showed up

'''Chris:''': and even and i even yeah i mean i'm continuing to watch that you know at least once one time per episode
and just you know continue to monitor it they have pure new voice and discord now

Speaker 4: yes my favorite my favorite peter knew my my big mac sorry geeking out

'''Chris:''': and the premiere episode get this mount volcan nope oh yeah okay that came out yesterday

Speaker 4: i did i did i need to catch up on that

'''Chris:''': yes and uh also even dr wolf commented like you know you got these you got these short episodes are like about five minutes or so
i'm trying to fit a life lesson in in in them but it's like there's definitely not enough time to validate such such lesson as
as well as in the episode g and the episode g4 did

Speaker 4: here's like here's my like personal view on it i feel like it's pinkie pie's view of her friends that's what i feel like

'''Chris:''': yeah it's a quote dr wolf when i heard him it's all go go go go go

Speaker 4: yeah it's to me pony life seems like just the pinkie pie and

'''Chris:''': just not think about it to even get the most bit of enjoyment out of it and even even with this brain it just essentially stays
off and i was going and i went into the into the uh pilot of the series you know which is neutral expectations even though i
even know everybody have foreseen how bad it was going to be and then you saw the uh the tweet at post sales like just drowning
i just couldn't help but crowd the majority of this show

Speaker 4: oh yeah well for me it was like you know it's just like the only thing i could ever credit is they literally took the my
little pony and made them my little ponies that's pretty much all they did but

'''Chris:''': and by the way captain yeah we might heard it about this but kathy west sucks not watching spike in go pony but top of the sink

Speaker 4: yeah and i heard i was like hmm that's really interesting but you know i mean it would be nice to have the original spike

'''Chris:''': yeah basically i mean the main six are original voice actresses but yeah discord saying nope

Speaker 4: that discord meme where it's like he takes out his eyes and he he rolls them like dice and throws them away that's how i feel

'''Chris:''': that one yeah i mean our original discord in c197s equestria definitely is like rolling his eyes all over the place but having
just seen you know cz 69 discord video nope nope nope

Speaker 4: um but what my back to on my train i caught my train

'''Chris:''': yay!

Speaker 4: i meant to say that the thing that concerned me about kai or at least put a little made my hair stand up
was that they did on vice the channel vice released the documentary of you of your mama so and i know a lot of people watch
tv vice at least the channel so i was a bit surprised

'''Heart:''': wow i forgot i forgot about that spunk yeah that's a good yeah good on you i forgot about the vice piece because
so many people have done that

'''Chris:''': uh huh yeah are you talking about like cable television

'''Heart:''': yeah devices yeah vices everywhere uh vices made very very mainstream

'''Spade:''': yeah

'''Heart:''': so yeah there's no way that you could you know could not run across it

'''Spade:''': yeah i watched it i love their documentaries they're awesome

'''Chris:''':(unintelligible) where kai was living previously for like well over a year uh he has not he has not had too much access to cable
television so he has highly unlikely seen this vice channel at all

'''Heart:''': is that one of the reasons why he had to borrow money for groceries

'''Chris:''': no no no that's not the case it's not that he needs a no he did not it was not borrowing money at all it's just that he was
low on money for himself and he needed more food so i opted so i opted to help him out there

Speaker 4: that's very kind of you yeah you know

'''Heart:''': yeah you you or mama yeah

'''Chris:''': all right so now back to this

'''Heart:''': wait was it was it your your idea or was it mama's idea

'''Chris:''': uh part yeah partly my idea but yeah originated from mama she put into my put into my mind and then i ended up thinking of it
and yada yada it happened

Speaker 4:okay

'''Chris:''': okay that's this vice channel there's they've been airing the documentaries of chris chan over there on that cable shadow

Speaker 4: yes i saw it myself because um actually i was flipping through channels because you know um my brain is kind of a ... cloud i

'''Chris:''': don't know we all have cloudy brains

Speaker 4:yeah well you know how my brains work it's like an archive of libraries you pull a book and then sometimes you lose
the book and you misplace the book it's it's it's very different um but i was flipping through channels and i saw a commercial for vice um
and it caught my eye because i saw it said chris chan and i was like hold on that's very odd so that's why i tagged
you in that twitter tweet saying well your mom i tagged your mom in that twitter tweet saying would you would you watch
this because i was i didn't know if you were aware but yeah i i know a lot of people watch vice especially for documentaries or just you
know that's what they mainly do if i'm correct i don't watch too much of it but i know that mostly cops and reality shows are on there

'''Chris:''': hmm i'm trying i'm looking i'm just googling uh you know vice channel and chris chan and i'm not seeing much results for
cable channel although there is apparently there's a vice tv app

Speaker 4: yes they have an app too but it's a channel on dish network because my parents haven't but it's too expensive
for me i can't afford cable or the cable dish packs stuff of that nature

Speaker 5: who even watches cable tv anymore i just fucking pirate

'''Chris:''': um yeah we still have we still have cable we may and we definitely mainly end up using it for our wi-fi but we also have it on for
pretty much the music channels yeah pretty much been doing we've been pretty much doing the majority off television show watching via
the via the internet

Speaker 4: yeah that's fair i mean nowadays hulu netflix those kind of channels are taking over cable because it's more accessible and
cheaper you know but yeah i didn't know vice had an app i just saw it um on the television and then on the twitter
on twitter um it talked about airing on a sunday i remember ...

'''Chris:''': let's see

Speaker 4:i can send you that in the um discord server the quick quick court if you guys want that

'''Heart:''': yeah

Speaker 4: yeah i'll send that

'''Chris:''': oh i just did a google advice tv channel there's a wikipedia article on it apparently it says here that it's an american basic
cable channel based on digital the digital media company and print magazine same name owned by a joint venture majority owned by
a&e networks known as viceland until december 2nd you know learn something new every moment

Speaker 4: well i i i don't watch a lot of it i mainly say on cartoon network and stuff of that nature

'''Chris:''': yeah so so did mama yeah

'''Spade:''':cartoons are awesome cartoon cartoons

Speaker 5:oh yeah!

'''Spade:''': so Sonichu have you seen the new um teenage mutant ninja turtles series rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles

'''Chris:''': yeah

'''Spade:''': yeah i'm really into it

Speaker 4:it's it's actually pretty good i was i was i'm not a huge fan TMNT but i gave that a chance and i was like you know what
that's not bad yeah

'''Spade:''': it's pretty entertaining

Speaker 5: i grew up watching the 2003 uh show that was on that was a good one that was on for kids tv

'''Spade:''': brings me back to the old saturday mornings on the fox box watching kirby sonic and turtles

Speaker 4: orgetics yeah that too

'''Chris:''': yeah mama watched the classic ninja turtles back in the 90s and she also did and she also checked out the crossover movie and
she's also watched some of the cg on nickelodeon

'''Spade:''': oh yeah i love that one too i love them all i just like turtles

Speaker 4: i like turtles i love that yeah

'''Spade:''': ironically i like turtles i am that meme i suppose they're just such cute little critters!

Speaker 4: um my friend actually saved a huge soft shell turtle on the road the other day he sent me a picture of it and i was like whoa

'''Spade:''': poor baby i hope i'm really glad he saved it oh yeah he's doing the middle of the road though silly think i know it was
mind you it's a flat those flat soft shell turtles like they normally stay in the water i'm they anger pancakes yes they they zoom
they zoom but yeah like i think it was because it was raining that day and um i live in the south so a lot of creeks and stuff rise and
fall in this area because of the humidity so yeah it might have got out of the creek or something

'''Spade:''': yeah it's possible that it didn't have enough water or food to sustain it so he's looking for a new puddle to curl up in

Speaker 4: yeah but it's like it was huge it's like about it's like um it's a very thick turtle

'''Spade:''':i like soft shells they're funny looking

Speaker 4: my favorite ones are the little yellow belly sliders oh yes ... (unintelligible)

'''Spade:''': there's the ornate box turtle which has like a little yellow belly and yellow spots on it yeah that's probably not what you're
talking about though if it's slider anyways turtles

Speaker 4: it's the ones with the red on their side of their face

'''Spade:''': oh yeah yeah i know what you're talking about that's a red-eared slider yeah i thought they were yellow bellythat might have
been my mistake nah they have yellow bellies they just they're called the red eared slider common for pets because they're so cute

Speaker 4: but people just don't know how to take care of them and it makes me upset it's

Speaker 2:really sad

'''Chris:''': they really have red ears?

'''Spade:''': um yeah they have red markings that go across their ear sort of moon shaped ones it's

'''Chris:''': they're very very tiny and they're super super fast they are turtles are super super fast

Speaker 4: yeah well some of them some of them some of them watch out wisely rabbit

'''Spade:''': indeed

Speaker 4: definitely

'''Chris:''': let me see some maybe cecil tortoise was one of those red red moon turtles

Speaker 4:probably

'''Spade:''': it would make sense

'''Chris:''': yeah and that name is actually memory cause mama and murray and likes the looney tunes show

Speaker 4: oh

'''Chris:''': you know she remembers you know that that turtle is his name is cecil and yeah by a cecil turtle and he was working in an office out
of his chair he has his co-worker julie she'll help him take it off that back (unintelligible)

Transcribed up to 30:20

{{FanChats}}

[[Category:Phone calls]]

CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)

2020-08-14T06:47:58Z

Mansus:

{{Incomplete}}
The following is an audio transcript from a Google Hangout Meeting on July 20th 2020.

Speaker 1: you uh was it wasn't that funny to see i remember uh you showed up in the mat at the internet uh discord server and there was a lot of uh exceptional behavior going on that day to the point where i i don't know if you know who Darkseid Phil is but Darkseid Phil is this individual who does let's plays and he was yeah and uh that on that day he he got kicked off of twitch so everybody in that server was freaking out over that and then half the internet went down because of cloud player so once so by the time you showed up in the in in the mat at the internet server people quite literally couldn't believe that that was that that was Sonichu because yeah and also in the past uh there's also a lot of people also a lot of people you know you obviously know this but there's people who've been pretended to be Sonichu on discord and and on other platforms so they p probably thought it was a fake and since they did and since they don't know you and how you know your your particular style of writing like any any true chritorian would have been able to look at that and tell like oh yeah that's that's

CWC:... yeah especially with all the things that I've seen and experienced

Speaker 1: yeah i i like the way i like the way you bantered back and forth uh forward because you were expecting or you know so uh you know i i don't i'm
not sure what you were expecting i don't want to assume anything but the way you said like go ahead and show me your pick you're the the troll
you know like you you took care of it like like a boss you were ready to take to take them on and i like it because but if you notice nobody nobody said anything because you know they know even though even though mine is not in there some of the the people who matter in that server know that i'm bismuth that's why that's why i said hi that's why i tagged you and tagged you and said hi i know you've been playing uh dnd recently because you used the term you know chaotic uh you know chaotic good and that confused that that confused some people and i and i was trying to tell them like it's a it's a you know it's a dungeon in the dragon's term you know come on

CWC: yeah

Speaker 1: yeah like read a book you know (giggling)

CWC: but yeah i wanted to make sure i was i wanted to make sure they knew that it was me and that meant not mom and not mama Chris chan so yeah i just essentially put my foot
forward i'd be like hey i like my dick's mostly pink!

Speaker 1: yeah that
was but yeah that was funny as fuck that that made me laugh so hard um and you you like just just just as like uh just as Josh you know said to you you brought so much you you bring and you brought so much fucking joy to this world and you continue to do so that's why one of the reasons why you know we you need to remain safe

Speaker 2: yeah you're amazing Sonichu

Speaker 1: yeah we want nothing but the best for you

CWC: (mumbling)

CWC continued: i must be in the same dimension as Rosie that's the most valuable thing i think she's right next to me so it's like we're literally so near yet so far

Speaker 2: yeah

Speaker 1:... that's that's that's really sweet i wish i wish more wish more people didn't try to use didn't uh i wouldn't try to weaponize a Roseachu against you because they know you know that that i i love that little couplet that you wrote you know as long as the birds tweet you shall be my heart sweet

CWC: (laughing)

Speaker 2: it was adorable yeah so corny but cute

Speaker 1: no it's not even corny it's cute i like i like it fight me it looks cute still is

CWC: that's a big cuteness oh boy and i like and then i definitely like what the trick was this trick quite tricky at her book you know hey i can see i can hey are you a ship cause i can see us doing meows to me out

Speaker 1: that is pretty funny

CWC: it's just you know the stupid cheesy corny flirt lines or something Rosie and i did have back in the day (mumbling)

Speaker 1: oh so oh sorry it's just a uh it's an interview with this uh fella named uh Darkside Phil the person that i was mentioning they're doing a little interview with him he's trying to explain why he was kicked off of Twitch

Speaker 3: who's twitch who's interviewing him?

Speaker 1: oh uh he's interviewing he's interviewing himself because he's too afraid to because Darkseid Phil is a genuinely like nasty person so he won't go on he won't speak to
anybody unless they pay him

CWC: so he's just like interviewing himself is he like playing two different characters himself and somebody entirely different

Speaker 1: he's just uh he'll state he'll state uh one thing he'll say like so my detractor said this and then he'll respond to himself

CWC: okay

Speaker 1: yeah it's called it's called it's called a hug box and that's one of the reasons that's one of the many reasons why you know you're awesome because you don't you know you're willing to go outside uh yeah you're willing to go outside that box

CWC: yep

Speaker 1: not a lot of people are they just want to stay in places where oh you know their their narrow minded views are reinforced

CWC: yeah and then also some also

Speaker 1: exploring!

CWC: yeah if they are talking to somebody else they want to make sure they are being clearly understood that they are understanding the other people that's uh that's kind of like the reasons why mama doesn't typically have her ears doesn't like you know phone conversation as much especially when you got the person in the other room that's (unintelligible)
conversation with kai and more than half the time uh look at this (unintelligible) all right so it's like he definitely confirms the magic (unintelligible)

Speaker 1: yeah it's it's okay it's okay does he does he really speaks yeah does he does he speak that quick? or does he just simply bombard you with information

CWC: yeah he he literally kind of like did the combination of fast and low talking uh he took a baby test he had drank like a bunch like some energy drinks and some sodas before

Speaker 1: so yeah soda's not nice soda's does not good for you you know you gotta you know you gotta mix things up

CWC: and he also definitely definitely drinks some water at times as well so there's that yeah

Speaker 2: so it's kind of like a fast mumble?

CWC: yeah that's what it sounds like yes

Speaker 1: hmm that's why i try to articulate my words

CWC: yeah you know i get the same level you know according to memory when mama tried talking with Jake over the phone the uh vocals the way that he speaks that's about the same amount that's about nearly this similar difficulty i get from high school it's not exact but similar

Speaker 1: yeah that's well that's not a good sign you know you you're into it yeah yeah use your intuition you know it to be true you know

CWC: but of course uh yeah kai is definitely different from Jake he's like the total opposite

Speaker 1: well yeah well what i mean by what i mean by that is can you know people who are confused sometimes tend to tend to be the same it's not that he's possibly even malicious but it's just that he could just be another confused person you know because we because we we still don't know uh like uh does did he know did he know about did he know about mama before all of this? did he know about mama from from the documentaries? or what

CWC: no he never knew yeah he never knew about mama Chris chan until the day she went to that first dungeons and dragons session and met him there

Speaker 1: i i don't understand how that's possible i i don't understand how that's possible though your mom is so famous yeah my mama's infamous especially remember
uh mama left that sign uh out in front of that that how uh out in front of there and even the store owners knew it was news from mama yeah so it's so weird

CWC: and kai is not one of those it goes goes on often with the social medias

Speaker 1: oh well he so he had no power so he so he and the rest of the group did not really have much prior knowledge about mama (unintelligible) and everything so it just decides they have they chaos the internet on that point so that was definitely a good thing that we said that channel the others sat down and foreseen in that particular dnd group

Speaker 4: um if i may ask Sonichu is this the person you drew a picture for for their Sonichu oc?

CWC: yeah darkri Sonichu

Speaker 4: yeah that's right because i remember i remember you telling me that that's very interesting i was just curious if that was
the same person

CWC: yeah that's yeah that's him

Speaker 4: okay

Speaker 1: uh yeah no that was a good question to ask yeah that's actually something that you

Speaker 2: try to talk to us and like hang out we're not

Speaker 1: yeah exactly just come yeah yeah just come hang it just come hang out with us you know we all

CWC: difficulties as well

Speaker 1: i mean we i mean every each of us each of us here do come on like let's we're we're all we're all we're all friends
here we we all do i don't know there's nothing yeah there's nothing for him you know there's nothing for him to be scared of
just

Speaker 2: and It feels like he's avoiding us and that makes me feel suspicious and i feel like it would just make everything yeah...
it makes me nervous

Speaker 1: yeah well uh that val really doesn't like it either because uh for obvious reasons

CWC: yeah well val's psychic and you know he can always ask for protection let literally go find kai and visit him personally

Speaker 1: well kai won't speak to val no on on any on any level that's why that's what's worrying he keeps blocking himself off
yes yes on every on every level on every on every level in every place and multiple times ... i know i yeah i i understand it's
frustrating and it's not and it's partially not your problem but the thing is kai has inserted himself into your life
and into you know into mama's life and sonni and Sonichu's so just be careful

Speaker 4: it's something that you know that would pique interest you know it's a very specific interest

Speaker 1: yeah yeah and and also the whole dungeons and dragons thing and not knowing it just you know doesn't something

Speaker 2: how do you live in Ruckgersville and not know who Chris chan is that's just kind of

Speaker 1: yeah

CWV: (unintelligible) Virginia

Speaker 2: oh

Speaker 4: okay that makes a bit more sense

Speaker 2: yeah okay

CWC: (unintelligible) 64 to take y'all to keep that strictly confidential

Speakers 1,2,3,4: yeah

Speaker 1: well you know you you know anything that you anything that you or mama tell us is confidential stays confidential

CWC: yes thanks

Speaker 1:any time

Speaker 4: the other thing that um piqued my interest was the fact that kai you know i'm still new i'm i'm not i don't know too much
um ... huh?

Speaker 3: uh i'm not really too familiar but go on it's all right

Speaker 4: um oh shoot my train

CWC: (unintelligible)

All: (laughter)

Speaker 2: sorry

Speaker 4: i was just like wait

Speaker 3: um by the way how you how's your night going Sonichu

CWC: well going fair going as well as it can be to just go to this dress up earlier today as was telling everybody else and uh
and very much taking a break by binging stuff bending cartoons on hbo max

Transcribed up to 15:07

CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)

2020-08-13T23:35:55Z

Mansus:

{{Incomplete}}
The following is an audio transcript from a Google Hangout Meeting on July 20th 2020.

Speaker 1: you uh was it wasn't that funny to see i remember uh you showed up in the mat at the internet uh discord server and there was a lot of uh exceptional behavior going on that day to the point where i i don't know if you know who Darkseid Phil is but Darkseid Phil is this individual who does let's plays and he was yeah and uh that on that day he he got kicked off of twitch so everybody in that server was freaking out over that and then half the internet went down because of cloud player so once so by the time you showed up in the in in the mat at the internet server people quite literally couldn't believe that that was that that was Sonichu because yeah and also in the past uh there's also a lot of people also a lot of people you know you obviously know this but there's people who've been pretended to be Sonichu on discord and and on other platforms so they p probably thought it was a fake and since they did and since they don't know you and how you know your your particular style of writing like any any true chritorian would have been able to look at that and tell like oh yeah that's that's

CWC:... yeah especially with all the things that I've seen and experienced

Speaker 1: yeah i i like the way i like the way you bantered back and forth uh forward because you were expecting or you know so uh you know i i don't i'm
not sure what you were expecting i don't want to assume anything but the way you said like go ahead and show me your pick you're the the troll
you know like you you took care of it like like a boss you were ready to take to take them on and i like it because but if you notice nobody nobody said anything because you know they know even though even though mine is not in there some of the the people who matter in that server know that i'm bismuth that's why that's why i said hi that's why i tagged you and tagged you and said hi i know you've been playing uh dnd recently because you used the term you know chaotic uh you know chaotic good and that confused that that confused some people and i and i was trying to tell them like it's a it's a you know it's a dungeon in the dragon's term you know come on

CWC: yeah

Speaker 1: yeah like read a book you know (giggling)

CWC: but yeah i wanted to make sure i was i wanted to make sure they knew that it was me and that meant not mom and not mama Chris chan so yeah i just essentially put my foot
forward i'd be like hey i like my dick's mostly pink!

Speaker 1: yeah that
was but yeah that was funny as fuck that that made me laugh so hard um and you you like just just just as like uh just as Josh you know said to you you brought so much you you bring and you brought so much fucking joy to this world and you continue to do so that's why one of the reasons why you know we you need to remain safe

Speaker 2: yeah you're amazing Sonichu

Speaker 1: yeah we want nothing but the best for you

CWC: (mumbling)

CWC continued: i must be in the same dimension as Rosie that's the most valuable thing i think she's right next to me so it's like we're literally so near yet so far

Speaker 2: yeah

Speaker 1:... that's that's that's really sweet i wish i wish more wish more people didn't try to use didn't uh i wouldn't try to weaponize a Roseachu against you because they know you know that that i i love that little couplet that you wrote you know as long as the birds tweet you shall be my heart sweet

CWC: (laughing)

Speaker 2: it was adorable yeah so corny but cute

Speaker 1: no it's not even corny it's cute i like i like it fight me it looks cute still is

CWC: that's a big cuteness oh boy and i like and then i definitely like what the trick was this trick quite tricky at her book you know hey i can see i can hey are you a ship cause i can see us doing meows to me out

Speaker 1: that is pretty funny

CWC: it's just you know the stupid cheesy corny flirt lines or something Rosie and i did have back in the day (mumbling)

Speaker 1: oh so oh sorry it's just a uh it's an interview with this uh fella named uh Darkside Phil the person that i was mentioning they're doing a little interview with him he's trying to explain why he was kicked off of Twitch

Speaker 3: who's twitch who's interviewing him?

Speaker 1: oh uh he's interviewing he's interviewing himself because he's too afraid to because Darkseid Phil is a genuinely like nasty person so he won't go on he won't speak to
anybody unless they pay him

CWC: so he's just like interviewing himself is he like playing two different characters himself and somebody entirely different

Speaker 1: he's just uh he'll state he'll state uh one thing he'll say like so my detractor said this and then he'll respond to himself

CWC: okay

Speaker 1: yeah it's called it's called it's called a hug box and that's one of the reasons that's one of the many reasons why you know you're awesome because you don't you know you're willing to go outside uh yeah you're willing to go outside that box

CWC: yep

Speaker 1: not a lot of people are they just want to stay in places where oh you know their their narrow minded views are reinforced

CWC: yeah and then also some also

Speaker 1: exploring!

CWC: yeah if they are talking to somebody else they want to make sure they are being clearly understood that they are understanding the other people that's uh that's kind of like the reasons why mama doesn't typically have her ears doesn't like you know phone conversation as much especially when you got the person in the other room that's (unintelligible)
conversation with kai and more than half the time uh look at this (unintelligible) all right so it's like he definitely confirms the magic (unintelligible)

Speaker 1: yeah it's it's okay it's okay does he does he really speaks yeah does he does he speak that quick? or does he just simply bombard you with information

CWC: yeah he he literally kind of like did the combination of fast and low talking uh he took a baby test he had drank like a bunch like some energy drinks and some sodas before

Speaker 1: so yeah soda's not nice soda's does not good for you you know you gotta you know you gotta mix things up

CWC: and he also definitely definitely drinks some water at times as well so there's that yeah

Speaker 2: so it's kind of like a fast mumble?

CWC: yeah that's what it sounds like yes

Speaker 1: hmm that's why i try to articulate my words

CWC: yeah you know i get the same level you know according to memory when mama tried talking with Jake over the phone the uh vocals the way that he speaks that's about the same amount that's about nearly this similar difficulty i get from high school it's not exact but similar

Speaker 1: yeah that's well that's not a good sign you know you you're into it yeah yeah use your intuition you know it to be true you know

CWC: but of course uh yeah kai is definitely different from Jake he's like the total opposite

Speaker 1: well yeah well what i mean by what i mean by that is can you know people who are confused sometimes tend to tend to be the same it's not that he's possibly even malicious but it's just that he could just be another confused person you know because we because we we still don't know uh like uh does did he know did he know about did he know about mama before all of this? did he know about mama from from the documentaries? or what

CWC: no he never knew yeah he never knew about mama Chris chan until the day she went to that first dungeons and dragons session and met him there

Speaker 1: i i don't understand how that's possible i i don't understand how that's possible though your mom is so famous yeah my mama's infamous especially remember
uh mama left that sign uh out in front of that that how uh out in front of there and even the store owners knew it was news from mama yeah so it's so weird

CWC: and tai is not one of those it goes goes on often with the social medias

Speaker 1: oh well he so he had no power so he so he and the rest of the group did not really have much prior knowledge about mama (unintelligible) and everything so it just decides they have they chaos the internet on that point so that was definitely a good thing that we said that channel the others sat down and foreseen in that particular dnd group

Speaker 4: um if i may ask Sonichu is this the person you drew a picture for for their sonichu oc?

Transcribed up to 10:45

CWC and Friends on Google Hangout (July 20th, 2020)

2020-08-13T22:08:14Z

Mansus: page created

The following is an audio transcript from a Google Hangout Meeting on July 20th 2020.

Jacob Sockness

2020-08-13T03:42:40Z

Mansus: updating Current Machinations

{{Articleofthenow}}
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|data8 = Amateur Occultist Conspiracy Theorist Stalker Unemployed
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'''Jacob Sockness''' is a {{age|1983|4|1}}-year-old [[enabler]] turned [[ween]] from San Francisco, California, who emerged in mid-[[2018]] and was most active between [[July 2019|July]] and [[November 2019|November]] of [[2019]]. Jacob has similarities with Chris, such as being [[autism|autistic]],<ref>[https://old.reddit.com/r/TheChurchofCWC/comments/bl78bl/magichan_2_need_to_talk_now/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app Sockness admits he is autistic],</ref> [[tomgirl|non-gender-conforming]],<ref name=return /> receiving a [[monthly tugboat]], [[Chris and religion#Delusions of godhood|believing to be a god]],<ref>[http://archive.is/eg2Gq Sockness claimed to be the Hindu god Ganesh]</ref> thinks he has [[curse-ye-ha-me-ha|magic powers]] and has built an elaborate fantasy universe, into which he has appropriated ''Sonichu'' characters, with over a dozen installments that he believes [[Chris and reality|really exist]].<ref>[http://www.lulu.com/shop/search.ep?contributorId=1404026 Sockness's 19-volume series for sale on Lulu]</ref> While he was at first seemingly just another [[white knight]], notable for his [[Chris and sex|erotic]] disposition towards Chris, Sockness would become openly [[weening|malicious]] after establishing direct contact with Chris.

In mid-[[2019]], Sockness and Chris agreed to work together financially following Chris's [[June 2019]] ban from [[eBay]], he achieved considerable influence over Chris's [[CWCville|fantasy world]], as seen in [[Sonichu 14|''Sonichu'' #14]]. Most of his courting and [[enablers|enabling]] has been through Twitter, though he would also promote himself through [[Reddit]], [[YouTube]] and even [[Kiwi Farms]]. For months, the two would express interest in meeting in person, to onlookers' alarm, yet when Sockness would finally set out to travel cross-country to [[14 Branchland Court]] in late September 2019, Chris rebuffed these efforts. Rehabilitation attempts over the following two months, at one point going even so far as mutual [[sweetheart|flirting]], could not ultimately repair their [[Heart Level|broken relationship]] enough to return to their former intimacy, and by the end of [[November 2019]] they rejected each other again. He has been however no less persistent for all of his idle efforts, and by end-[[March 2020]] had again got a toe in Chris's door, though his current plans remain unclear.

==Discovery and motivations==
[[Image:Jacob Sockness CWC poster.jpg|200px|left|thumb|Sockness posing next to a Sonichu Through the Years poster sold by Chris.]]
Jacob was discovered by chance by [[Kiwi Farms]] user [https://kiwifarms.net/members/neural.18444/ neural] while observing the [[weens|many]] [[A-log|users]] surrounding Chris's Twitter posts. Upon further investigation, it was revealed that he also had a Kiwi Farms account under the name [https://kiwifarms.net/members/jacob-js.26961/ Jacob JS]. It was in his profile page where he accidentally doxxed himself by linking to his [https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Facebook Facebook] and Tumblr that revealed his personal information. As he exposed himself on the Farms, Sockness, like [[Michael Hirtes]], is considered to be a ''halal'' lolcow.

Like many of Chris's orbiters, Sockness is a furry and lives in [[wikipedia:Section_8_%28housing%29|subsidised housing]] with a [[tugboat]]. He has a very low view of [[niggos|blacks]], describing them as 'beastly' and 'hyper sexual', believing that 'their race can only rape, because that is [their] way of reproduction in a natural setting.'<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/jacob-sockness-michiro-hutaki-agian-siin-jacob-js-darkseed2012-ramleironheart.48287/ Sockness's lolcow thread on Kiwi Farms]</ref> Unlike the [[Idea Guys]], who would inject such themes into Chris's mind for their own amusement, Jacob seems to be genuine. Sockness also controls several sockpuppets to white-knight himself and converse with, while claiming them to be different people; like Chris's [[Disguises|similar past attempts]] to cover himself.

Christorians could not discern the true motivations behind Sockness's behaviour. For a while, Jacob appeared to be the first [[TRUE and HONEST]] believer in [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] and the [[Dimensional Merge]] after Chris, setting him apart from the [[Jessica Quinn|various]] [[CWCProtectSquad|trolls]] professing to protect Chris and the [[Sarah and Steve|many]] [[Future message from Crystal W Chandler|previous]] [[Multidimensional White Knights|imitators]] of the [[Idea Guys]] pretending to belong to Chris's abortive [[Chris and his Ego|cult]]. Over the months, evidence would gradually come to light that indicated that his feelings were not in earnest. In [[November 2018]], Sockness admitted that he did not seriously believe in the [[Dimensional Merge]].<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhV7At8N4x4&t=274s Interview with Sockness on YouTube, conducted 18 November 2018, released 29 October 2019]</ref> When Chris allowed Jacob access to his Twitter account on 11 July 2019, he boasted about it on [[Reddit]], even claiming that his sexual attraction to Chris was a façade.<ref>[[:File:KinkAct.png|Sockness states his erotic desires for Chris are not genuine, 11 July 2019]]</ref> On 21 September 2019, when a [[white knight|concerned onlooker]] tried to warn Chris that Sockness was tantamount to an autistic [[Idea Guy]], Sockness embraced the charges of manipulation, justifying his actions as protecting Chris from trolls.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/8-15-sockness-enabling-chriss-magi-chan-role-playing-luring-him-for-a-visit.59770/post-5361506 Dialogue between Sockness and onlooker]</ref>
[[Image:SocknessExplainsHimself.PNG|250px|right]]

== Early interactions with Chris==
{{quote|The Sacred Shoes have samples of cat & doggy DNA. Looking for the Treasures of Heaven, a single hair from Christine's head to put into an amulet of serious power to manifest one's dreams. This is a divine experience.|Sockness<ref><s>https://twitter.com/darkseed2012/status/1107477177149251585</s> Deleted</ref>}}

Sockness has spent hundreds buying items from Chris's [[eBay]], notably buying his old shoes for worshipping purposes. Chris blocked him on [https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Twitter Twitter] on 31 January 2019. By 22 [[May 2019]], Jacob's YouTube channel was terminated, and his Twitter account disappeared.

[[File:JacobBlockedLOL.png|thumb|left|200px|Jacob's reaction to Chris blocking his [[sockpuppet]].]]

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Still, this would not be the end of Sockness's involvement with Chris; he would create a new Twitter account named Chris Kink. On 11 July 2019, while Chris was trying to raise funds for a hotel room at the 2019 [[BronyCon]], a troll SonichuMerch told Chris that Sockness might be interested in buying his bath water. Chris saw dollar signs and followed Sockness.

{{quote|The Sonichu merch guy told Chris I was interested in the buying some bath water. The guy doesn't know I have no money to buy it due to issues with Social Security in May. Even if I had the money, Chris has to follow some exact rules to creating what I need from him. I need him to make and bless some holy water with his juices in it.|Sockness explains why Chris started following him.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/cbmq7m/chris_is_following_sockness_on_twitter/ethqxsd/</ref>}}

After establishing direct communication with Chris, Sockness tweeted that he would open a vendor account on [[eBay]] for Chris, acting as warehouse, clearing-house and middleman. Chris responded with gratitude.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-7-14-chris-will-circumvent-his-ebay-seller-ban-by-teaming-up-with-sockness.58419/ Twitter 7/14 - Chris will circumvent his Ebay seller ban by teaming up with Sockness]</ref> The next day, Chris re-tweeted a GoFundMe campaign by Sockness to raise $300, nominally as a ''shipping fund''.<ref>http://archive.fo/nkTcS</ref> As of [[September 2019]], Sockness has failed to restore Chris's access to eBay, which would be prohibited at any rate, though he has continued to set up GoFundMe pages for [[Chris and money|Chris's incidental expenses]], as when [[Son-chu|his car]] broke down and needed a thousand dollars worth of repairs.<ref>[[September 2019 social media posts#Car is repaired but Chris needs cash (again)]]</ref>

[[File:JacobWhiteKnight.jpg|thumb|200px|left|White Knight Blue Heart, Sockness's primary Twitter identity while planning to travel to Chris's home.]]
[[File:Sonichu14-2019draft-p15.jpg|thumb|200px|Jakoba in [[Sonichu 14|''Sonichu'' #14]].]]

Once Sockness had his foot in the door, he began talking about his alternate dimension fantasies, further enabling Chris.

{{quote|Firstly, and mainly, I am not under Anyone’s Control. And second, I still support the Rokat and all the good peoples in Andromeda. I need to meditate further for more sound responses and thoughts. For now I will simply state that your research is valuable, indeed. Going silent.|Chris, addressing Sockness. He believes he is not under anyone's control while parroting Sockness's lore.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1154376923520352256</ref>}}

Chris featured Jakoba, an OC created by Sockness, in [[Sonichu 14|''Sonichu'' #14]]. As Sockness put it: "She drew Jakoba, from one of mine when her CPU pals wanted to see the Rokat".<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/cgybzh/chris_drawing_with_his_awkward_pen_grip_while/euxv3zz/</ref> For most of summer 2019, the two would interact relatively little, though other [[weens]] would try to push them closer together.<ref>[[Sarah and Steve]]</ref> In [[August 2019]], Chris, through his [[Magi-Chan]] sockpuppet on Twitter, [[naïve]]ly dismissed Sockness's violent inclinations and approved the idea of him coming to visit.<ref>[[August 2019 social media posts#Magi-Chan responds to Sockness' violent tendencies]]</ref>

== Subsequent interactions and Virginia trip ==
On 7 [[September 2019]], Sockness released a [[Sockness impersonates Magi-Chan|fabricated conversation]] between himself and [[Magi-Chan]] from [[May 2019]], in which he declared that he and Chris would need meet in person and marry for the [[Dimensional Merge]] to proceed. Though Chris affirmed thereafter that the counterfeit dialogue was [[TRUE and HONEST|trustworthy]] and [[Financhu Crisis|begged]] for the funding to travel to California,<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/sockness-manipulated-chris-with-threat-to-stop-the-merge-rping-as-magi-chan.60642/post-5298762</ref> he changed tactics within a few days, stating on Twitter that Chris, [[Chris and reality|in Magi-Chan's body]], had arrived on the West Coast from "behind the [[dimension]]al curtain",<ref>[[September 2019 social media posts#Longing for the Teen Troon Saga]]</ref> while Chris's body was safely in [[Virginia]]. Nevertheless, Chris remained interested in Sockness coming to visit him at [[14 Branchland Court|home]].<ref>[[September 2019 social media posts#The fabled return of the real Chris]]</ref>

[[File:BarneySatanism.jpeg|thumb|left|200px|The rift between Jacob and Chris continued to widen on 28 September 2019, when Chris refused to join in Sockness's worship of [[Wikipedia:Barney & Friends|Barney]], whom Jacob believes to be Satan.]]
[[File:Socknesstraininfo.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Sockness's ominously one-way train ticket, with dates blacked out. Astute Kiwis have calculated that Sockness should have arrived on Saturday evening (28 September 2019) in [[Charlottesville]] had he continued.]]
As autumn 2019 began, months of casual on-line role-playing would come to a head: on 24 September, Sockness reported that he had bought train tickets to make the transcontinental trip to Chris.<ref>[https://archive.fo/vS8ac Sockness announces he has secured transport on Reddit]</ref> He made clear that his intent was both [[Chris and sex|sexual]] and [[Chris and violence|violent]] on Reddit, comparing his plans for Chris's rear to Germany's devastation by Allied bombings during [[Manchester High Leaks#Japan War Essay|the War]],<ref>[http://archive.is/kGTRi Sockness: 'I'll just destroy her ass like carpeting bombing Germany in WWII. It'll be in flaming ruin.']</ref> despite being physically incapable of such a feat.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5643632 Sockness reveals incapacity to rape Chris, 27 November 2019]</ref>

However, only a day later, Chris posted a statement on Twitter along with a short audio clip, [[ChrisReleasesAStatementRegardingJacobSockness]], indicating his desire for Sockness to return home after Sockness had left for Virginia, and saying that somebody in Chicago would provide him with a return ticket.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-9-26-chris-sees-red-flags-about-sockness-cancels-his-visit.61648/post-5384612 Chris declares Sockness's destiny is to go home, asks his followers to stop him in Chicago]</ref> It seemed that Chris had a moment of clarity long enough to realise the magnitude of what was going to happen. He elaborated on his decisions a day later, including a statement from one of Jacob's imaginary gods, Michiro. In his statement, Chris cited [[Chris and health|his health]] as unconducive to having guests, and that Jacob had gone down the path of evil. Chris also said that he foresaw that he and Jacob would end up in a similar situation to how Chris and [[Cole Smithey]] are. On 26 September, Sockness admitted defeat, tweeting that his "involvement with the Dimensional Merge has ended in failure" and that he would delete his Twitter account upon returning home.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-9-26-chris-sees-red-flags-about-sockness-cancels-his-visit.61648/page-6#post-5384295 Sockness quits, tweet screenshot mirrored on Kiwi Farms]</ref> Chris would confirm that Sockness had turned back the next day.<ref>[[September 2019 social media posts#Sockness is going home]]</ref> In a [[honor roll|poorly thought out]] attempt to save face, Sockness would later claim that the train ticket was his own forgery, and that the entire Virginia trip a sham.<ref name=hoax>[[:File:SockHoax.jpg|Tweet by Sockness, 16 October 2019]]</ref>

== Failed romance ==
[[File:Sockness managing Chris's Patreon.jpeg|thumb|200px|Sockness handling Chris's Patreon funding, as he did with eBay earlier in the year.]]
Despite spending over $1,500 through the course of his failed bid for Chris's attention, Sockness remained determined to win his prize in the end, and managed to slither back into Chris's inner circle of orbiters despite his dangerous behaviour. He apologised for his [[Chris and anger|emotional outbursts]] to reconcile with Chris, and had indicated that he wishes to try visiting Chris again at some indeterminate future time, making sure to bring a mutual friend along with him.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:SocknessPlans.png</ref> When Chris declared on 28 September his wish to attend BABSCon, a ''My Little Pony'' convention then scheduled for April 2020 just outside of San Francisco, Sockness consoled himself that he would see Chris in person after all.<ref>[http://archive.is/j8eth Sockness's Twitter, archived 30 September 2019]</ref> However, they would not converse again for over two weeks after this.
[[File:TruePals.png|thumb|200px|left|Sarah and Steve declare themselves outright to favour Sockness with this original artwork.]]
Halfway through October 2019, Sockness entered the picture again. On 12 October, Chris whined on Twitter about complaints from customers regarding the [[Patreon]] books they had not received.<ref>[[October 2019 social media posts#Chris orders the Shipfic cards, snaps at customers wanting books]]</ref> Sockness, sensing an opportunity to regain access to Chris, discussed the matter with him, and then announced with his approval<ref>[[October 2019 social media posts#Good News to Patient Patrons (Patreon post)]]</ref> that he would be taking over management of the Patreon's financing, ostensibly to help, in a similar move to his managing Chris's eBay several months earlier. Emboldened, Sockness proclaimed on 16 October that he would fly to Virginia sometime about [[Halloween]].<ref name=hoax /> He promptly resumed hitting on Chris over Twitter, with Chris playing into it: on 19 October, Sockness, commenting on a video clip of cosplayers kissing, said: "How about it Love @CPU_CWCSonichu?", to which Chris answered, "I’m not gonna cosplay as Deadpool or a Zombie, but we can kiss at the future time."<ref name=cankiss>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1185683452282261505</ref> Halloween 2019 came and went with no indication that Sockness had flown to Virginia as he said he would.

Shifting tactics, Sockness determined to cordon Chris off from other social interactions, establishing himself as the only one Chris could trust. On 3 [[November 2019]] he managed to sour Chris's opinion of [[Null]].<ref>[[Null#Chris turns against Null]]</ref> Later that week, Sockness allied with a newly returned [[Sarah and Steve]] in byzantine Twitter dialogues ''defending'' Chris against other enablers who sought to gain influence over him.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-11-3-sockness-manipulating-chris-to-trust-only-him-chris-turns-against-null.62825/post-5562273 Peak autism, 8 November 2019]</ref> Among his methods to suppress rivals, Sockness would harass MKRNightVee in direct messages.<ref name=screech>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5646079 Merge table talk, 27 November 2019]</ref> Further seeking to cut Chris off from other contacts, including those who [[Guard Dogs|genuinely mean him well]], Sockness created a list of various [[Kiwi Farms]] and [[Twitter]] users he deemed untrustworthy for criticising his bid for control.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-11-3-sockness-manipulating-chris-to-trust-only-him-chris-turns-against-null.62825/post-5576554 Sockness's Black Book, 11 November 2019]</ref>

== Jacob as a danger to Chris ==
Jacob is clearly unstable, with psychopathic tendencies. In his own mythos he is the prophet of the god of war and death, Jakoba, it is telling that Jacob named a death god after himself. His books contain many references to himself as an evil entity, most bluntly put in Celestial Studies where he says "Our job is to consume human flesh." In addition to this a lot of his books contain rituals, most have graphic descriptions, all of which are made to kill people in cruel and unusual ways. In a 2018 interview he says that he uses these rituals to kill homeless people when he's bored. Also in that interview he says in no uncertain terms that he would rape Chris if his advances are refused. It is unclear if what he says really happens, what matters is that Jacob thinks that he's killing the homeless and summoning daemons which is just as bad. Chris tries to hand wave these glaring faults in Jacob's online persona by saying that everything bad Jacob has done, he did because he was possessed by Jakoba. Despite Jacob saying that it is impossible for Jakoba to possess him. Jacob claims that Jakoba is responsible for the "red tape" preventing the [[Merge]], and tries to hold it hostage claiming it will only happen once he has had sex with Chris or they sacrifice a small child. Although it is not known for certain what would happen if Jacob and Chris met, it would certainly not be good.

===Friendzoning and second estrangement===
{{quote|I was following the request of Magi-Chan to keep on with Jacob, yet my feelings for him have developed, during the months. As for the present, I had to cool the romance, because even I Knew the whole time it was not meant to be, and Jacob's usefulness had become compromised.|Chris explaining his reasons for involving himself with Sockness to a random [[ween]]<ref name=aqua>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5653000 Chris blames Magi-Chan for Sockness, 30 November 2019]</ref>}}
Pressuring Chris to abandon his other contacts ultimately backfired. Chris received the list itself lukewarmly: while he affirmed that he was in [[Love Quest|love]] with Sockness, he still maintained some reservations.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-11-3-sockness-manipulating-chris-to-trust-only-him-chris-turns-against-null.62825/post-5574329 Chris endorses Sockness against MKR, 11 November 2019]</ref> He challenged Sockness, noting that the list consisted mostly of Sockness's own enemies and asking whether he would be blacklisted also were he to turn on him.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-11-3-sockness-manipulating-chris-to-trust-only-him-chris-turns-against-null.62825/post-5578153 Chris's challenge for Sockness, 11 November 2019]</ref> Sockness went on to defeat the various pretenders to his position without much fanfare, though in vain: Chris was repulsed by Sockness's professed associations with demons, and issued a statement on 28 November 2019 that he was not in a romantic relationship with him, and moreover that the Dimensional Merge would be endangered by such intimacy with him.<ref>[http://archive.is/FVISg Chris rejects Sockness's overtures, 28 November 2019]</ref> His decision was applauded by other enablers, some of whom had become Jacob's targets. Nonetheless, Chris still counted Sockness as a friend, and thought of himself as protecting him against demons.<ref name=screech />

As had come to pass two months earlier, when Chris disrupted his journey to Virginia, Sockness responded to the word that he had been rejected with [[tard rage]]. He delivered an [[Chris and negotiation|ultimatum]] to Chris, threatening to revoke his tacit permission to use his fictional setting in ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' and pursue him for [[Things Chris has ripped off|copyright infringement]] if he continued to use them, unless they got married.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/11-29-sockness-takes-his-ball-and-goes-home.63588/post-5650528 Sockness turns on Chris, 29 November 2019]</ref> While Chris agreed [[Stress|apathetically]] no longer to use Jacob's demonic characters in his own works, he displayed in an autistic Parthian shot his usual [[honor roll|comprehension level]] of how [[Chris and copyright|intellectual property]] works: Chris's own experiences and memories of Jacob's [[dimensions|fictional universe]] were inviolable. Sockness remained adamant, sternly reiterating the [[Chris and the law|legal limits]] on what Chris could do [[Chris and money|financially]] with his characters in an endeavour to bring him back into his flabby arms. Holding firm, Chris stolidly divested himself of him by writing off their past business together as being at [[Magi-Chan]]'s request and describing Sockness as having outlived his usefulness.<ref name=aqua /> Neither would speak to each other again for over three weeks, and their friendship was dealt a hard blow.

[[December 2019]] would see Chris's relations with Sockness continue to sour. Against Sockness's order not to use his fantasy world, Chris would release on 16 December 2019 a [[Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder|trading card]] declaring that his final triumph over Jacob and his infernal horde was assured.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5727293 Chris commemorates his victory, 16 December 2019]</ref> Later that month, Sockness sought to spark conflict between Chris and [[Other enablers#MKRNightVee|an enabler]], but Chris recognised and dismissed these as the fabrications they were.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5755364 Sockness denounced as forger, 22 December 2019]</ref> Even Jacob's plan to confront Chris again at BABScon was derailed: the convention was cancelled in [[March 2020]] due to the risk of [[COVID-19]].<ref>[https://www.babscon.com/2020/ BABScon 2020 is cancelled due to SARS 2 outbreak, 18 March 2020].</ref> Unlike the [[List of beliefs brainwashed into Chris|deep scars]] left to the ''Sonichu'' canon by the Idea Guys, Sockness's contributions, if not rejected outright, seemed to have been turned on their head and made impotent to warp Chris's thought any more than it [[Chris and reality|already is]]. For once, it appeared that Chris had actually managed to evade one of his malicious orbiters.

 
Any newfound optimism onlookers might have found in Chris's ability to discern his [[enablers]]' true intent turned out to be misguided. Through early [[2020]], Chris had fallen further into [[Mysticism|occult]] practises. On 31 [[March 2020]], Chris built a pagan altar in his bedroom according to instructions found in one of Sockness's books.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-6224799 Chris's altar, 31 March 2020]</ref><ref>[https://twitter.com/JSockess/status/1245166234393444352 Sockness affirms the altar is after his model]</ref> Soon thereafter, on 6 [[April 2020]], Chris followed Jacob again on [[Twitter]].<ref name=return>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-6251631 Sockness returns to Chris's interest, 6 April 2020]</ref> What precisely Sockness is doing is unknown: he restricted public access to his Twitter account on 19 April.<ref>[https://archive.li/V2QxB Sockness's restricted profile, 19 April 2020]</ref>

 


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==Reemergence==
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{{quote|No. At least, not yet.|Chris, 15 July 2020, to a fan asking whether he and Sockness are dating.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1282966598911815680</ref>}}
Though Sockness had managed to make a reappearance in early 2020 and had attempted to get his foot in the door, it wasn't until Summer 2020 when Chris finally started humouring him in public again. Even so, Chris became increasingly dissatisfied with some of Sockness's behaviour, openly rebuking him over [[Twitter]].

{{Quote|Therefore, all of your information is false, and, once again, you can shut the hell up about this bull shit. End of discussion. ⚡⚡⚡|<s>Chris</s> Sonichu, rebuking Sockness over Twitter over his creepy behaviour and attempts at manipulation.<ref>[[July 2020 social media posts#Jacob sex obsessions]]</ref>}}

As a result of Sockness's secretive behaviour, much of what he has done with regards to attempting to get his foot back in the door with Chris can only be ascertained from Chris's comments and retweets on Sockness's posts; in early July 2020, Chris rebuked Sockness while [[Spirit possession|playing as]] [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] for his creepy behaviour, and then told him in no uncertain terms to 'shut the hell up' when Sockness attempted to trick him into believing he had a 10 year old illegitimate son, born from his fling with prostitute [[Mia Hamm]]. Even though Chris remained under Sockness's thrall, still believing other enabler-forced events to be true in the same breath, it was clear that once again, he managed to discern reality from fiction for just long enough to shoot down Sockness's misbehaviour, if only for a few moments. With the cancellation of BABScon do to COVID-19, he claims to have caused storms over China for stopping his plan to "meet the goddess."

It remains to be seen what Sockness's next autistic machinations will be.

==See also==
*[[Kidasuna]]
*[[Sockness impersonates Magi-Chan]]
*[[Robert Simmons V]]

==References==
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Jacob Sockness

2020-08-13T00:45:17Z

Mansus: My first edit outlining Jacob's more dangerous side and what it could mean for CWC.

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{{quote|Stop with the sex obsessions already! Seriously, Please: chill out.|Chris, 1 July 2020, criticizing Sockness for his creepy behavior after over a year of it.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1278236917952327682</ref>}}
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|data2 = Michiro Hutaki Agian Siin Darkseed2012 RamleIronHeart Jacob JS drunkendragon415 luvshak214 Ashva Gohda Gakuto Numata White Knight Blue Heart Jake Hammer <abbr title="'Love Christine' in Hindi">क्रिस्टीन को प्यार करो</abbr> Centralized Imperial Government of Kidasuna [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|CPU God]] of the Super Nintendo
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|data8 = Amateur Occultist Conspiracy Theorist Stalker Unemployed
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'''Jacob Sockness''' is a {{age|1983|4|1}}-year-old [[enabler]] turned [[ween]] from San Francisco, California, who emerged in mid-[[2018]] and was most active between [[July 2019|July]] and [[November 2019|November]] of [[2019]]. Jacob has similarities with Chris, such as being [[autism|autistic]],<ref>[https://old.reddit.com/r/TheChurchofCWC/comments/bl78bl/magichan_2_need_to_talk_now/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app Sockness admits he is autistic],</ref> [[tomgirl|non-gender-conforming]],<ref name=return /> receiving a [[monthly tugboat]], [[Chris and religion#Delusions of godhood|believing to be a god]],<ref>[http://archive.is/eg2Gq Sockness claimed to be the Hindu god Ganesh]</ref> thinks he has [[curse-ye-ha-me-ha|magic powers]] and has built an elaborate fantasy universe, into which he has appropriated ''Sonichu'' characters, with over a dozen installments that he believes [[Chris and reality|really exist]].<ref>[http://www.lulu.com/shop/search.ep?contributorId=1404026 Sockness's 19-volume series for sale on Lulu]</ref> While he was at first seemingly just another [[white knight]], notable for his [[Chris and sex|erotic]] disposition towards Chris, Sockness would become openly [[weening|malicious]] after establishing direct contact with Chris.

In mid-[[2019]], Sockness and Chris agreed to work together financially following Chris's [[June 2019]] ban from [[eBay]], he achieved considerable influence over Chris's [[CWCville|fantasy world]], as seen in [[Sonichu 14|''Sonichu'' #14]]. Most of his courting and [[enablers|enabling]] has been through Twitter, though he would also promote himself through [[Reddit]], [[YouTube]] and even [[Kiwi Farms]]. For months, the two would express interest in meeting in person, to onlookers' alarm, yet when Sockness would finally set out to travel cross-country to [[14 Branchland Court]] in late September 2019, Chris rebuffed these efforts. Rehabilitation attempts over the following two months, at one point going even so far as mutual [[sweetheart|flirting]], could not ultimately repair their [[Heart Level|broken relationship]] enough to return to their former intimacy, and by the end of [[November 2019]] they rejected each other again. He has been however no less persistent for all of his idle efforts, and by end-[[March 2020]] had again got a toe in Chris's door, though his current plans remain unclear.

==Discovery and motivations==
[[Image:Jacob Sockness CWC poster.jpg|200px|left|thumb|Sockness posing next to a Sonichu Through the Years poster sold by Chris.]]
Jacob was discovered by chance by [[Kiwi Farms]] user [https://kiwifarms.net/members/neural.18444/ neural] while observing the [[weens|many]] [[A-log|users]] surrounding Chris's Twitter posts. Upon further investigation, it was revealed that he also had a Kiwi Farms account under the name [https://kiwifarms.net/members/jacob-js.26961/ Jacob JS]. It was in his profile page where he accidentally doxxed himself by linking to his [https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Facebook Facebook] and Tumblr that revealed his personal information. As he exposed himself on the Farms, Sockness, like [[Michael Hirtes]], is considered to be a ''halal'' lolcow.

Like many of Chris's orbiters, Sockness is a furry and lives in [[wikipedia:Section_8_%28housing%29|subsidised housing]] with a [[tugboat]]. He has a very low view of [[niggos|blacks]], describing them as 'beastly' and 'hyper sexual', believing that 'their race can only rape, because that is [their] way of reproduction in a natural setting.'<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/jacob-sockness-michiro-hutaki-agian-siin-jacob-js-darkseed2012-ramleironheart.48287/ Sockness's lolcow thread on Kiwi Farms]</ref> Unlike the [[Idea Guys]], who would inject such themes into Chris's mind for their own amusement, Jacob seems to be genuine. Sockness also controls several sockpuppets to white-knight himself and converse with, while claiming them to be different people; like Chris's [[Disguises|similar past attempts]] to cover himself.

Christorians could not discern the true motivations behind Sockness's behaviour. For a while, Jacob appeared to be the first [[TRUE and HONEST]] believer in [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] and the [[Dimensional Merge]] after Chris, setting him apart from the [[Jessica Quinn|various]] [[CWCProtectSquad|trolls]] professing to protect Chris and the [[Sarah and Steve|many]] [[Future message from Crystal W Chandler|previous]] [[Multidimensional White Knights|imitators]] of the [[Idea Guys]] pretending to belong to Chris's abortive [[Chris and his Ego|cult]]. Over the months, evidence would gradually come to light that indicated that his feelings were not in earnest. In [[November 2018]], Sockness admitted that he did not seriously believe in the [[Dimensional Merge]].<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhV7At8N4x4&t=274s Interview with Sockness on YouTube, conducted 18 November 2018, released 29 October 2019]</ref> When Chris allowed Jacob access to his Twitter account on 11 July 2019, he boasted about it on [[Reddit]], even claiming that his sexual attraction to Chris was a façade.<ref>[[:File:KinkAct.png|Sockness states his erotic desires for Chris are not genuine, 11 July 2019]]</ref> On 21 September 2019, when a [[white knight|concerned onlooker]] tried to warn Chris that Sockness was tantamount to an autistic [[Idea Guy]], Sockness embraced the charges of manipulation, justifying his actions as protecting Chris from trolls.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/8-15-sockness-enabling-chriss-magi-chan-role-playing-luring-him-for-a-visit.59770/post-5361506 Dialogue between Sockness and onlooker]</ref>
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== Early interactions with Chris==
{{quote|The Sacred Shoes have samples of cat & doggy DNA. Looking for the Treasures of Heaven, a single hair from Christine's head to put into an amulet of serious power to manifest one's dreams. This is a divine experience.|Sockness<ref><s>https://twitter.com/darkseed2012/status/1107477177149251585</s> Deleted</ref>}}

Sockness has spent hundreds buying items from Chris's [[eBay]], notably buying his old shoes for worshipping purposes. Chris blocked him on [https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Twitter Twitter] on 31 January 2019. By 22 [[May 2019]], Jacob's YouTube channel was terminated, and his Twitter account disappeared.

[[File:JacobBlockedLOL.png|thumb|left|200px|Jacob's reaction to Chris blocking his [[sockpuppet]].]]

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Still, this would not be the end of Sockness's involvement with Chris; he would create a new Twitter account named Chris Kink. On 11 July 2019, while Chris was trying to raise funds for a hotel room at the 2019 [[BronyCon]], a troll SonichuMerch told Chris that Sockness might be interested in buying his bath water. Chris saw dollar signs and followed Sockness.

{{quote|The Sonichu merch guy told Chris I was interested in the buying some bath water. The guy doesn't know I have no money to buy it due to issues with Social Security in May. Even if I had the money, Chris has to follow some exact rules to creating what I need from him. I need him to make and bless some holy water with his juices in it.|Sockness explains why Chris started following him.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/cbmq7m/chris_is_following_sockness_on_twitter/ethqxsd/</ref>}}

After establishing direct communication with Chris, Sockness tweeted that he would open a vendor account on [[eBay]] for Chris, acting as warehouse, clearing-house and middleman. Chris responded with gratitude.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-7-14-chris-will-circumvent-his-ebay-seller-ban-by-teaming-up-with-sockness.58419/ Twitter 7/14 - Chris will circumvent his Ebay seller ban by teaming up with Sockness]</ref> The next day, Chris re-tweeted a GoFundMe campaign by Sockness to raise $300, nominally as a ''shipping fund''.<ref>http://archive.fo/nkTcS</ref> As of [[September 2019]], Sockness has failed to restore Chris's access to eBay, which would be prohibited at any rate, though he has continued to set up GoFundMe pages for [[Chris and money|Chris's incidental expenses]], as when [[Son-chu|his car]] broke down and needed a thousand dollars worth of repairs.<ref>[[September 2019 social media posts#Car is repaired but Chris needs cash (again)]]</ref>

[[File:JacobWhiteKnight.jpg|thumb|200px|left|White Knight Blue Heart, Sockness's primary Twitter identity while planning to travel to Chris's home.]]
[[File:Sonichu14-2019draft-p15.jpg|thumb|200px|Jakoba in [[Sonichu 14|''Sonichu'' #14]].]]

Once Sockness had his foot in the door, he began talking about his alternate dimension fantasies, further enabling Chris.

{{quote|Firstly, and mainly, I am not under Anyone’s Control. And second, I still support the Rokat and all the good peoples in Andromeda. I need to meditate further for more sound responses and thoughts. For now I will simply state that your research is valuable, indeed. Going silent.|Chris, addressing Sockness. He believes he is not under anyone's control while parroting Sockness's lore.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1154376923520352256</ref>}}

Chris featured Jakoba, an OC created by Sockness, in [[Sonichu 14|''Sonichu'' #14]]. As Sockness put it: "She drew Jakoba, from one of mine when her CPU pals wanted to see the Rokat".<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/cgybzh/chris_drawing_with_his_awkward_pen_grip_while/euxv3zz/</ref> For most of summer 2019, the two would interact relatively little, though other [[weens]] would try to push them closer together.<ref>[[Sarah and Steve]]</ref> In [[August 2019]], Chris, through his [[Magi-Chan]] sockpuppet on Twitter, [[naïve]]ly dismissed Sockness's violent inclinations and approved the idea of him coming to visit.<ref>[[August 2019 social media posts#Magi-Chan responds to Sockness' violent tendencies]]</ref>

== Subsequent interactions and Virginia trip ==
On 7 [[September 2019]], Sockness released a [[Sockness impersonates Magi-Chan|fabricated conversation]] between himself and [[Magi-Chan]] from [[May 2019]], in which he declared that he and Chris would need meet in person and marry for the [[Dimensional Merge]] to proceed. Though Chris affirmed thereafter that the counterfeit dialogue was [[TRUE and HONEST|trustworthy]] and [[Financhu Crisis|begged]] for the funding to travel to California,<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/sockness-manipulated-chris-with-threat-to-stop-the-merge-rping-as-magi-chan.60642/post-5298762</ref> he changed tactics within a few days, stating on Twitter that Chris, [[Chris and reality|in Magi-Chan's body]], had arrived on the West Coast from "behind the [[dimension]]al curtain",<ref>[[September 2019 social media posts#Longing for the Teen Troon Saga]]</ref> while Chris's body was safely in [[Virginia]]. Nevertheless, Chris remained interested in Sockness coming to visit him at [[14 Branchland Court|home]].<ref>[[September 2019 social media posts#The fabled return of the real Chris]]</ref>

[[File:BarneySatanism.jpeg|thumb|left|200px|The rift between Jacob and Chris continued to widen on 28 September 2019, when Chris refused to join in Sockness's worship of [[Wikipedia:Barney & Friends|Barney]], whom Jacob believes to be Satan.]]
[[File:Socknesstraininfo.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Sockness's ominously one-way train ticket, with dates blacked out. Astute Kiwis have calculated that Sockness should have arrived on Saturday evening (28 September 2019) in [[Charlottesville]] had he continued.]]
As autumn 2019 began, months of casual on-line role-playing would come to a head: on 24 September, Sockness reported that he had bought train tickets to make the transcontinental trip to Chris.<ref>[https://archive.fo/vS8ac Sockness announces he has secured transport on Reddit]</ref> He made clear that his intent was both [[Chris and sex|sexual]] and [[Chris and violence|violent]] on Reddit, comparing his plans for Chris's rear to Germany's devastation by Allied bombings during [[Manchester High Leaks#Japan War Essay|the War]],<ref>[http://archive.is/kGTRi Sockness: 'I'll just destroy her ass like carpeting bombing Germany in WWII. It'll be in flaming ruin.']</ref> despite being physically incapable of such a feat.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5643632 Sockness reveals incapacity to rape Chris, 27 November 2019]</ref>

However, only a day later, Chris posted a statement on Twitter along with a short audio clip, [[ChrisReleasesAStatementRegardingJacobSockness]], indicating his desire for Sockness to return home after Sockness had left for Virginia, and saying that somebody in Chicago would provide him with a return ticket.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-9-26-chris-sees-red-flags-about-sockness-cancels-his-visit.61648/post-5384612 Chris declares Sockness's destiny is to go home, asks his followers to stop him in Chicago]</ref> It seemed that Chris had a moment of clarity long enough to realise the magnitude of what was going to happen. He elaborated on his decisions a day later, including a statement from one of Jacob's imaginary gods, Michiro. In his statement, Chris cited [[Chris and health|his health]] as unconducive to having guests, and that Jacob had gone down the path of evil. Chris also said that he foresaw that he and Jacob would end up in a similar situation to how Chris and [[Cole Smithey]] are. On 26 September, Sockness admitted defeat, tweeting that his "involvement with the Dimensional Merge has ended in failure" and that he would delete his Twitter account upon returning home.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-9-26-chris-sees-red-flags-about-sockness-cancels-his-visit.61648/page-6#post-5384295 Sockness quits, tweet screenshot mirrored on Kiwi Farms]</ref> Chris would confirm that Sockness had turned back the next day.<ref>[[September 2019 social media posts#Sockness is going home]]</ref> In a [[honor roll|poorly thought out]] attempt to save face, Sockness would later claim that the train ticket was his own forgery, and that the entire Virginia trip a sham.<ref name=hoax>[[:File:SockHoax.jpg|Tweet by Sockness, 16 October 2019]]</ref>

== Failed romance ==
[[File:Sockness managing Chris's Patreon.jpeg|thumb|200px|Sockness handling Chris's Patreon funding, as he did with eBay earlier in the year.]]
Despite spending over $1,500 through the course of his failed bid for Chris's attention, Sockness remained determined to win his prize in the end, and managed to slither back into Chris's inner circle of orbiters despite his dangerous behaviour. He apologised for his [[Chris and anger|emotional outbursts]] to reconcile with Chris, and had indicated that he wishes to try visiting Chris again at some indeterminate future time, making sure to bring a mutual friend along with him.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:SocknessPlans.png</ref> When Chris declared on 28 September his wish to attend BABSCon, a ''My Little Pony'' convention then scheduled for April 2020 just outside of San Francisco, Sockness consoled himself that he would see Chris in person after all.<ref>[http://archive.is/j8eth Sockness's Twitter, archived 30 September 2019]</ref> However, they would not converse again for over two weeks after this.
[[File:TruePals.png|thumb|200px|left|Sarah and Steve declare themselves outright to favour Sockness with this original artwork.]]
Halfway through October 2019, Sockness entered the picture again. On 12 October, Chris whined on Twitter about complaints from customers regarding the [[Patreon]] books they had not received.<ref>[[October 2019 social media posts#Chris orders the Shipfic cards, snaps at customers wanting books]]</ref> Sockness, sensing an opportunity to regain access to Chris, discussed the matter with him, and then announced with his approval<ref>[[October 2019 social media posts#Good News to Patient Patrons (Patreon post)]]</ref> that he would be taking over management of the Patreon's financing, ostensibly to help, in a similar move to his managing Chris's eBay several months earlier. Emboldened, Sockness proclaimed on 16 October that he would fly to Virginia sometime about [[Halloween]].<ref name=hoax /> He promptly resumed hitting on Chris over Twitter, with Chris playing into it: on 19 October, Sockness, commenting on a video clip of cosplayers kissing, said: "How about it Love @CPU_CWCSonichu?", to which Chris answered, "I’m not gonna cosplay as Deadpool or a Zombie, but we can kiss at the future time."<ref name=cankiss>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1185683452282261505</ref> Halloween 2019 came and went with no indication that Sockness had flown to Virginia as he said he would.

Shifting tactics, Sockness determined to cordon Chris off from other social interactions, establishing himself as the only one Chris could trust. On 3 [[November 2019]] he managed to sour Chris's opinion of [[Null]].<ref>[[Null#Chris turns against Null]]</ref> Later that week, Sockness allied with a newly returned [[Sarah and Steve]] in byzantine Twitter dialogues ''defending'' Chris against other enablers who sought to gain influence over him.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-11-3-sockness-manipulating-chris-to-trust-only-him-chris-turns-against-null.62825/post-5562273 Peak autism, 8 November 2019]</ref> Among his methods to suppress rivals, Sockness would harass MKRNightVee in direct messages.<ref name=screech>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5646079 Merge table talk, 27 November 2019]</ref> Further seeking to cut Chris off from other contacts, including those who [[Guard Dogs|genuinely mean him well]], Sockness created a list of various [[Kiwi Farms]] and [[Twitter]] users he deemed untrustworthy for criticising his bid for control.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-11-3-sockness-manipulating-chris-to-trust-only-him-chris-turns-against-null.62825/post-5576554 Sockness's Black Book, 11 November 2019]</ref>

== Jacob as a danger to Chris ==
Jacob is clearly unstable, with psychopathic tendencies. In his own mythos he is the profit of the god of war and death, Jakoba, it is telling that Jacob named a death god after himself. His books contain many references to himself as an evil entity, most bluntly put in Celestial Studies where he says "Our job is to consume human flesh." In addition to this a lot of his books contain rituals, most have graphic descriptions, all of which are made to kill people in cruel and unusual ways. In a 2018 interview he says that he uses these rituals to kill homeless people when he's bored. Also in that interview he says in no uncertain terms that he would rape Chris if his advances are refused. It is unclear if what he says really happens, what matters is that Jacob thinks that he's killing the homeless and summoning daemons which is just as bad. Chris tries to hand wave these glaring faults in Jacob's online persona by saying that everything bad Jacob has done, he did because he was possessed by Jakoba. Despite Jacob saying that it is impossible for Jakoba to possess him. Jacob claims that Jakoba is responsible for the "red tape" preventing the [[Merge]], and tries to hold it hostage claiming it will only happen once he has had sex with Chris or they sacrifice a small child. Although it is not known for certain what would happen if Jacob and Chris met, it would certainly not be good.

===Friendzoning and second estrangement===
{{quote|I was following the request of Magi-Chan to keep on with Jacob, yet my feelings for him have developed, during the months. As for the present, I had to cool the romance, because even I Knew the whole time it was not meant to be, and Jacob's usefulness had become compromised.|Chris explaining his reasons for involving himself with Sockness to a random [[ween]]<ref name=aqua>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5653000 Chris blames Magi-Chan for Sockness, 30 November 2019]</ref>}}
Pressuring Chris to abandon his other contacts ultimately backfired. Chris received the list itself lukewarmly: while he affirmed that he was in [[Love Quest|love]] with Sockness, he still maintained some reservations.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-11-3-sockness-manipulating-chris-to-trust-only-him-chris-turns-against-null.62825/post-5574329 Chris endorses Sockness against MKR, 11 November 2019]</ref> He challenged Sockness, noting that the list consisted mostly of Sockness's own enemies and asking whether he would be blacklisted also were he to turn on him.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-11-3-sockness-manipulating-chris-to-trust-only-him-chris-turns-against-null.62825/post-5578153 Chris's challenge for Sockness, 11 November 2019]</ref> Sockness went on to defeat the various pretenders to his position without much fanfare, though in vain: Chris was repulsed by Sockness's professed associations with demons, and issued a statement on 28 November 2019 that he was not in a romantic relationship with him, and moreover that the Dimensional Merge would be endangered by such intimacy with him.<ref>[http://archive.is/FVISg Chris rejects Sockness's overtures, 28 November 2019]</ref> His decision was applauded by other enablers, some of whom had become Jacob's targets. Nonetheless, Chris still counted Sockness as a friend, and thought of himself as protecting him against demons.<ref name=screech />

As had come to pass two months earlier, when Chris disrupted his journey to Virginia, Sockness responded to the word that he had been rejected with [[tard rage]]. He delivered an [[Chris and negotiation|ultimatum]] to Chris, threatening to revoke his tacit permission to use his fictional setting in ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' and pursue him for [[Things Chris has ripped off|copyright infringement]] if he continued to use them, unless they got married.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/11-29-sockness-takes-his-ball-and-goes-home.63588/post-5650528 Sockness turns on Chris, 29 November 2019]</ref> While Chris agreed [[Stress|apathetically]] no longer to use Jacob's demonic characters in his own works, he displayed in an autistic Parthian shot his usual [[honor roll|comprehension level]] of how [[Chris and copyright|intellectual property]] works: Chris's own experiences and memories of Jacob's [[dimensions|fictional universe]] were inviolable. Sockness remained adamant, sternly reiterating the [[Chris and the law|legal limits]] on what Chris could do [[Chris and money|financially]] with his characters in an endeavour to bring him back into his flabby arms. Holding firm, Chris stolidly divested himself of him by writing off their past business together as being at [[Magi-Chan]]'s request and describing Sockness as having outlived his usefulness.<ref name=aqua /> Neither would speak to each other again for over three weeks, and their friendship was dealt a hard blow.

[[December 2019]] would see Chris's relations with Sockness continue to sour. Against Sockness's order not to use his fantasy world, Chris would release on 16 December 2019 a [[Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder|trading card]] declaring that his final triumph over Jacob and his infernal horde was assured.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5727293 Chris commemorates his victory, 16 December 2019]</ref> Later that month, Sockness sought to spark conflict between Chris and [[Other enablers#MKRNightVee|an enabler]], but Chris recognised and dismissed these as the fabrications they were.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-5755364 Sockness denounced as forger, 22 December 2019]</ref> Even Jacob's plan to confront Chris again at BABScon was derailed: the convention was cancelled in [[March 2020]] due to the risk of [[COVID-19]].<ref>[https://www.babscon.com/2020/ BABScon 2020 is cancelled due to SARS 2 outbreak, 18 March 2020].</ref> Unlike the [[List of beliefs brainwashed into Chris|deep scars]] left to the ''Sonichu'' canon by the Idea Guys, Sockness's contributions, if not rejected outright, seemed to have been turned on their head and made impotent to warp Chris's thought any more than it [[Chris and reality|already is]]. For once, it appeared that Chris had actually managed to evade one of his malicious orbiters.

 
Any newfound optimism onlookers might have found in Chris's ability to discern his [[enablers]]' true intent turned out to be misguided. Through early [[2020]], Chris had fallen further into [[Mysticism|occult]] practises. On 31 [[March 2020]], Chris built a pagan altar in his bedroom according to instructions found in one of Sockness's books.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-6224799 Chris's altar, 31 March 2020]</ref><ref>[https://twitter.com/JSockess/status/1245166234393444352 Sockness affirms the altar is after his model]</ref> Soon thereafter, on 6 [[April 2020]], Chris followed Jacob again on [[Twitter]].<ref name=return>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-6251631 Sockness returns to Chris's interest, 6 April 2020]</ref> What precisely Sockness is doing is unknown: he restricted public access to his Twitter account on 19 April.<ref>[https://archive.li/V2QxB Sockness's restricted profile, 19 April 2020]</ref>

 


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==Reemergence==
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{{quote|No. At least, not yet.|Chris, 15 July 2020, to a fan asking whether he and Sockness are dating.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1282966598911815680</ref>}}
Though Sockness had managed to make a reappearance in early 2020 and had attempted to get his foot in the door, it wasn't until Summer 2020 when Chris finally started humouring him in public again. Even so, Chris became increasingly dissatisfied with some of Sockness's behaviour, openly rebuking him over [[Twitter]].

{{Quote|Therefore, all of your information is false, and, once again, you can shut the hell up about this bull shit. End of discussion. ⚡⚡⚡|<s>Chris</s> Sonichu, rebuking Sockness over Twitter over his creepy behaviour and attempts at manipulation.<ref>[[July 2020 social media posts#Jacob sex obsessions]]</ref>}}

As a result of Sockness's secretive behaviour, much of what he has done with regards to attempting to get his foot back in the door with Chris can only be ascertained from Chris's comments and retweets on Sockness's posts; in early July 2020, Chris rebuked Sockness while [[Spirit possession|playing as]] [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] for his creepy behaviour, and then told him in no uncertain terms to 'shut the hell up' when Sockness attempted to trick him into believing he had a 10 year old illegitimate son, born from his fling with prostitute [[Mia Hamm]]. Even though Chris remained under Sockness's thrall, still believing other enabler-forced events to be true in the same breath, it was clear that once again, he managed to discern reality from fiction for just long enough to shoot down Sockness's misbehaviour, if only for a few moments.

It remains to be seen what Sockness's next autistic machinations will be.

==See also==
*[[Kidasuna]]
*[[Sockness impersonates Magi-Chan]]
*[[Robert Simmons V]]

==References==
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