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Null

2025-04-21T00:01:05Z

Necromaster: grammar correction

{{Honest}}

{{quote|I personally contacted Greene County Sheriff Steven S. Smith who refused to do anything, saying that it's Chris's choice to shit on the floor. I contacted the FBI, first through the IC3.gov contact form, then I took the report and put it in the hands of an FBI agent who met me in person [REDACTED], just to try and shake that tree further.|Null, showing the lengths he went to help Chris <ref>[[The Chris-Chan Extortionists]]</ref>}}

{{quote|Chris just sent me some shit out of the blue and he immediately got upset and shut up after I addressed him as "Chris" instead of Magichan. Every single time I see this ludicrous faggot shit he's doing it's like losing Terry [A. Davis] again. It makes me so fucking sad.|Null, shortly before cutting contact with Chris for almost a year <ref>[[Kiwi_Farms_posts_(Null)#Sad_About_Chris's_Roleplaying]]</ref>}}

{{quote|I have to come to terms with the fact that Chris was fucking retarded, he's always been fucking retarded, and now on top of everything - on top of learning that he can't learn, I have to realize that he's malicious! He knows that doing these things are wrong and he doesn't care! Because if he gets away with it, that's all that matters.|Null, finally realizing the truth.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPjmy3K7uT8 Null's Last Interaction With Chris-Chan]</ref>}}
{{Infobox Person
| title = Null
| name = Joshua Conner Moon
| image = Null2021.png
| aliases = Null Jersh Jewsh KiwiMac<ref>[[:File:Kiwimac.jpg]]</ref>
|day = 9
|month = 12
|year = 1992
| gender = [[MALE]]
| race = White
| nationality = [[United States|American]], currently living in [[Remove Kebab|Serbia]]
| occupation = ''[[Guard Dog]] (former)'' Owner of [[Kiwi Farms]]
| saga = {{saga|secondexile|cn}}, {{saga|ideaguy|cn}}, {{saga|guarddog|cn}}, {{saga|everfree|cn}}, {{saga|incest|cn}}
}}

'''Joshua Conner Moon''', better known by his online alias '''"Null"''', is the current owner of [[Kiwi Farms]] (formerly the [[CWCki Forums]]). Though he took over ownership of the CWCki Forums, which monitored and documented Chris's shenanigans, over time he shifted focus away from Chris and rebranded the site to "lolcows" in general. From there, he occasionally contacted Chris when it was determined that Chris needed help, like after the [[2014 house fire]] or in the aftermath of the [[Idea Guys]] saga.

During the spring of 2018, Null began acting as one of Chris's volunteer advisors, alongside fellow [[Guard Dogs]] The Captain and Marvin, helping him by filtering his email messages to weed out [[ween]] messages from legitimate [[business]] dealings,<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Legit Emails]]</ref> as well as offering advice, such as warning Chris not to invade people's personal space at other conventions after Chris's behavior had gotten him [[banned|kicked out]] of [[TooManyGames]]. He felt motivated to assist Chris after learning that the [[Idea Guys]] had scammed Chris out of enough money to put him at risk of losing his home.<ref name="currenttrolls">[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Decline of Trolling]]</ref> Null's participation dwindled for a while, but Chris reconciled with him in [[2020]].

Null's activities with Chris sometimes had a conflict of interest with his own role as owner of the Kiwi Farms gossip forum. In one example, Null advised Chris to be interviewed by ''[[The Create Unknown]]'',<ref>[[The Place chats (October 2020)#Interview Prep, Mad Over Wikipedia]]</ref> then created a forum thread on it.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Create Unknown Interview]]</ref> In another, Null used his contact with Chris to engage in [[carpetbagging]] by asking to use his likeness in the [[Kiwi Farms silver coin]]s.

Null positioned himself to be something of a caretaker for Chris. He helped manage Chris to fundraise a trip to [[Everfree Northwest]] and stated that when [[Barbara]] dies, he had plans to try to get Chris into independant living with Null managing Chris's finances.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Vision with Trying to Help Chris]]</ref>

Of course, things did not work out that way. In the wake of the [[July 2021]] [[Affair with Mother|incest]] allegations against Chris, Null had a conversation with Chris in which he found that Chris lied about his financial situation and that Chris had [[Chris and money#Theft|taken money]] from Barbara's bank account in a potential violation of his EPO. Following the conversation and realizing the futility of his efforts, Null cut ties with Chris, while Chris felt betrayed that Null had leaked their conversation. Chris now sees Null as a Judas Iscariot-like figure once his [[Messiah complex]] reached new heights, since he now believes himself to be Jesus reincarnated.

==Ownership of Kiwi Farms==
{{main|Kiwi Farms}}
{{quote|I started hosting the CWCki Forums in [[2013]]. Before [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] died, [[trolling]] Chris was particularly funny, but after Bob has died, it has become less funny and more miserable every goddamn year.|Null, on Chris's [[weens|current-day trolls]].<ref name="currenttrolls" />}}
Previously existing as a Chris-focused message board in various iterations, in February 2015 the CWCki Forums was consolidated into the Kiwi Farms, shifting focus away from just Chris as the board expanded its horizons to other potential lolcows. Though he wasn't its founder, Null is the current owner of the site, though has often referred to Chris as a "dead cow" and largely shifts his focus to moderating the other boards.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Dead Cow]]</ref> As of 2022, his ill-advised antagonism of certain cows (such as non-binary video game developer Near/Byuu and transgender Twitch streamer [[Keffals]]) and mismanagement of the site has lead to frequent downtime and deplatforming; this has left Kiwi Farms as a less reliable resource for Chris information and discussion.

===1776 Hosting===
In 2018, Null launched a hosting service that hosted his Kiwi Farms forum. From 2018-2022, [[Marvin]], the [[CWCki]]'s owner, had the CWCki on 1776's service. As the result of a wave of DDoS attacks against Kiwi Farms in late summer 2022 which rendered 1776 Hosting unresponsive, Marvin opted to migrate the CWCki to another host in October 2022.

==Early Involvement==
[[File:BBOSBox.jpg|thumb|200px|The Kiwi Farms care package.]]
[[File:BBOSLetter.jpg|thumb|200px|The smaller items included, including a letter.]]
===Fundraiser===
{{main|2014 house fire}}
In [[2014]], after Chris [[14_Branchland_Court#Destruction_of_the_Chandler_Household|accidentally burned down his house]], Null sympathized, as he himself had suffered a house fire in his youth. He organized [[Chris_and_money#After_the_house_fire|a fundraiser]] on the forum that resulted in several hundred dollars worth of supplies being sent as a care package for Chris to get on his feet again, with the remainder of the amount sent as a money order. Mistakenly thinking that the money order was signed incorrectly (and thus rendered useless), Chris insulted Null by calling him a "{{w|Dodo}} brain" on Facebook.<ref>[[January 2014 Facebook Posts#Hey, Dodo Brain!]]</ref> In [[2017]], Chris piled on by tweeting "Null is a dull lull; [[random-access humor|LOL]].<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts]]</ref>"

===CWCki Forums Private Board===
{{main|CWCki Forums posts (Null)#Closure of CWCki Forums Private Board}}
In November 2014, Null wrote a post on how he had closed down a private discussion subforum used by trolls. He did so in an attempt to discourage trolls after [[Thetan]] and [[Cousin Al]]'s antics (respectively, impersonating multiple people in Chris's life, and rooting through Chris's garbage), saying that the trolling disturbed him and he didn't think there was any more comedy to get from Chris<ref>[[CWCki Forums posts (Null)#Closure of CWCki Forums Private Board]]</ref>

===Cville Pride Ween===
{{main|Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Countering Cville Ween}}

On 19 [[September 2015]], Chris attended [[Cville Pride]], a pride event in Charlottesville. A [[ween]] used Null's e-mail to send a message to the convention staff, where they pretended to be a concerned parent of a girl who went to the pride parade, only to be touched inappropriately by Chris. Null, upon finding a worried response from Cville Pride, posted the e-mail on [[Kiwi Farms]] and messaged the staff to clarify that this was a fabricated story.

==The Guard Dogs==
{{main|Guard Dogs}}

Null pushed to have the [[Idea Guys]] investigated for their alleged extortion and blackmailing of Chris. For a time, Null assisted Chris by screening his messages to separate [[ween]] and [[troll]] e-mails from legitimate [[business]] dealings, by setting up a custom e-mail address - christine@cwcville.us - for Chris to use.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Email and Blog Plans]]</ref> The other Guard Dogs had vouched for Null to Chris, who rationalized the inclusion of Null – whom he would have considered a troll at any other point in time due to his ownership of [[Kiwi Farms]] – by playing make-believe that Stan Smith, a character from ''[[Family_Guy#American_Dad.21|American Dad!]]'', had vouched for Null as well:

{{quote|when Chris first started messaging me he said that Stan Smith from ''American Dad'' said I was somehow affiliated with the FBI/CIA, which I think is entirely his head canon. If you wonder why I'm a big softy with Chris, there's a good example.|Null<ref name=stan>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Stan Smith]]</ref>}}

[[File:CWC drawing for Joshua Moon.jpg|thumb|250px|Drawing Chris sent to Null. Note how uncomfortable Null's Ponysona looks after Chris hits on him.]]

Chris's communication with Null got off to a rocky start. Null tried to avoid the subject of [[Chris_and_reality|Chris's delusions]] as he did not want to further damage Chris's mental state, but Chris insisted on bringing up the matter. Null was subsequently horrified by what he had learned about Chris's deteriorating psyche:

{{quote|He is utterly convinced [fictional characters are real]. I can't approach the topic with him at all. The first thing he asked me when we started talking was if I believed in the [[dimensions|alternate dimensions]] and I said no. He got very mad, started describing his adventures, and I had to walk it back by saying "I can only speak on experience".|Null<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Chris's Beliefs]]</ref>}}

Shortly after beginning talks with Null, Chris drew an art piece of him as a ''[[My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic]]'' character to show appreciation for his Guard Dog-related efforts in May 2018, and followed Kiwi Farms's [[Twitter]] account a few days later. The drawing features Chris calling Null "handsome and cute". In spite of the best efforts of the Guard Dogs, however, Chris continued to hold many of the Idea Guy-based delusions to his heart as he eagerly anticipated the [[Dimensional Merge]] and his role in it.

After the Idea Guys, Null continued to protect Chris from [[weens]], shown in his thread [[OPERATION: Kingsnake]], where he monitored an email account he'd created for Chris and publicly doxed anyone who tried to troll him. His protection of Chris is best shown in a message sent to [[Jack Z]]:
{{quote|if you fuck with my tard, there are no rules. i have no idea what you're doing but if you're going to a con there will be pictures of you and they will be on [[Kiwi Farms|this site]]. i will make sure your grandchildren, god forbid you have them, know you as 'that fucking faggot loser grandpa who fucked with a mentally ill tranny for fun at a male pony convention'. your feats will be etched into a particularly well illuminated corner of this website until the day i fucking die|Null<ref>[[:File:NullsThreatToJackZ.png]]</ref>:}}

==Disillusionment with Chris==

Despite efforts from Null and the other Guard Dogs, Chris still managed to bumble his way into the embrace of trolls such as the [[Teen Troon Squad]]. In addition, Chris constantly tried to steer conversations towards his fantasies as a distraction from the unpleasant reality that the Guard Dogs brought up, as seen in [[Guard Dog chats]]. Null was eventually alienated by this behavior and walked away from Chris.

On 25 [[August 2019]], Chris, during his phase of [[Spirit_possession#Magi-Chan_.2814_August_2019_-_14_September_2019.29|role-playing as Magi-Chan]], attempted to get back in contact with Null, though Chris got upset and ragequit when Null refused to entertain his delusions.

{{quote|Chris just sent me some shit out of the blue and he immediately got upset and shut up after I addressed him as "Chris" instead of Magichan. Every single time I see this ludicrous faggot shit he's doing it's like losing {{w|Terry A. Davis|Terry [Davis]}} again. It makes me so fucking sad.|Null<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Sad About Chris's Roleplaying]]</ref>}}

Months later, when a Kiwi Farms user wondered if Null would be intervening with [[Jacob Sockness]] during that saga, Null reiterated his stance that he had washed his hands of Chris:

{{quote|I'm not doing shit. Stop tagging me into the Chris board. I don't care.|Null<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Not Dealing with Sockness]]</ref>}}

===Chris turns against Null===
{{quote|Even Null will be cowering before the judgment of the good deities, including Christine Weston Chandler Sonichu, herself.|Chris, [[June 2020]], during his phase of [[Spirit_possession#Sonichu_.2815_April_2020_-_25_February_2021.29|role-playing as Sonichu]].<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1267923788412452866?s=19</ref>}}

In [[November 2019]], Sockness, intent on [[Chris and manipulation|manipulating]] Chris to trust only him, maligned Null to Chris, telling Chris that Null was a murderer and accused him of being "the devil in human flesh".<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20191103065043if_/https://twitter.com/wkbh1983/status/1190880485716582400 2 Nov 2019 tweet (archive)]</ref>

Since Sockness had been giving validation for Chris's Dimensional Merge beliefs, Chris easily took his word on Null, who had only given help based in reality and refused to entertain Chris's fantasies during his time as a Guard Dog. Chris then took to Twitter to denigrate Null and the Kiwi Farms. Among his quotes:

{{quotebox|I personally attest and confirm to these things against the Farms and Null. I am well-aware that not Everyone on the Farms is evil, but I still see genuine good amongst the remainder. Even a look into Null’s eyes reveals his demonic influence, even photographed. But, at this point and juncture, I feel it is time that I step up and finally begin the process of taking down the KiwiFarms for good. Everyone with genuine good in your hearts, I implore you all to leave the web forum for good. The time of its downfall in these set of events is upon us. I stand with the Good People in deity-level Light Power to take down the evils Null has been trying to influence upon everyone. The lives of those taken by his influence shall not have been lost in vain. Null, Troll Us No More! ⚡️💙⚡️<ref name=demonic>[[November 2019 social media posts#Bashing Null]]</ref>}}

{{quotebox|Look, I Understand how this affects y’all, the good peoples; I am not blind to that. Which is Why I am encouraging all of you to ditch the KiwiFarms and escape Null’s deceptive grasp. Don’t let yourselves continue to be linked to this slew of murderous links and malintentions.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1191058119901749249</ref>}}

{{quotebox|[...] defending the Earths from the likes of Null and [[Jakoba]]. ⚡️💙⚡️<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1191800205626298369</ref>}}

Chris further stated that pony Null would die in the Dimensional Merge while noting that the Idea Guys would live:

{{quotebox|I have read, re-read and meditated on this event: I confirm that [Sockness's assertion that trolls will not survive the Merge as their OCs will be wiped out] happens to the self-counterparts of all Haters and really bad people of [[1218]], as they were isolated in this one distant “Troll City”; All neutral and Good Trolls remain unaffected, as well as the few select bad people and haters, as they are fated to continue for a future judgment and retribution, such as [[Idea Guys|IdeaGuy and Boyd]] paying back what they extorted. I do confirm, that not of a disease, but a fated event literally took out Null’s Equestria (Pony) OC axnd self-counterpart, even though drawn by my hand some time ago. This had happened beyond my own control. So, among the bulk of Haters, Null will not survive.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1193056298750955525</ref>}}

==Reconnected==
{{quote|Moon is an ally; we are of neutral feeling about him, and we are most grateful for his help and abilities throughout all of these times, despite his consciously spoken “disbelief” in things “fictional”, regardless of them all being literal fact and happening as we speak.|Chris in [[Discord Q&A 2]], August 2020.}}
After [[Sockness]]'s influence over Chris ended, Chris viewed Null as an ally once again.

During his phase of being [[Spirit possession|possessed by Sonichu]], Chris would [[Null DMs#Chris wants to role-play|send a series of messages]] to Null, spouting bizarre lore about [[Jacob Sockness]]. Null responded by first complimenting Chris on the joy he's brought to many people and said that he was open to help him if he needed something. But continued on to say that he refused to role-play or talk with him about things that aren't real. Chris responded somewhat angrily, saying that he really was possessed by [[Sonichu]] and continued rambling about more lore until Null finally told him he wasn't interested on giving more attention to [[Jacob Sockness]].

Null joined [[The Place]] Discord server where he sometimes chatted with Chris or spoke with server members about him.

In [[September 2020]], Null tried to assist Chris with catching up on unfulfilled customer orders (which Chris took advantage of in a talk with a customer, telling the customer to talk to Null about a delay in shipping instead).<ref>[[Justin DMs]]</ref> In [[November 2020]], Null assisted Chris with arranging potential interviews.<ref>[[November 2020 social media posts#Dimensional merge stuff]]</ref> In [[February 2021]], Null asked Chris for permission to use his image in the creation and sale of coins for a Kiwi Farms merch run, also offering compensation for using his likeness.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Coin Run Compensation]]</ref> Chris agreed to this.<ref>https://twitter.com/Job4_2/status/1381713091092738052 (Archive https://archive.fo/9FDsh)</ref>

Null has stated that he has a plan for assisting Chris with [[Chris%27s_homes|housing]] after his mother passes away.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Housing Plan]]</ref>

Chris was apparently under the impression Null had ties to organized crime. According to Null, at some point, Chris tried asking him to kill someone.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Wanting Null to Kill Someone]]</ref> According to [[Kyle]], in [[February 2021]], Chris wanted a hooker and asked Kyle to ask Null to get him one.<ref>[[The Place chats (March 2021)#Chris wanted a hooker]]</ref>

Beginning in February 2021, Null began making plans to sell [[Kiwi Farms silver coin|silver coins]] featuring both Chris's and the Kiwi Farms's imagery, as a merch run to support the Kiwi Farms forum. Null communicated with Chris his idea, and received his permission to sell the coins. Null also claimed he would compensate Chris for using his imagery.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms silver coin]]</ref>

In [[June 2021]], Null announced that Chris would attend [[Everfree Northwest]], a ''[[My Little Pony]]'' convention to be held on 13 [[August 2021]]. He mentioned vetoing Chris's plan to drive there and recommended taking a flight, saying he would help Chris with financial arrangements.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Everfree Northwest Announcement]]</ref> On 9 July 2021, Null created [[Help send Chris-Chan to Everfree NW|a GoFundMe campaign to raise money for the trip]]. The GoFundMe met its $1000 goal 6 hours after going live. Throughout the majority of [[July 2021]], Null helped Chris by continuing to organize and update the GoFundMe campaign.

==Null cuts ties==
{{See also|Affair with Mother}}

{{quote|I really don't think you will ever get it. It's probably too late now anyways.|Null, after finding out Chris had [[Affair with Mother|sex with his own mother]], and a day before blocking him}}

The following day on 31 July 2021, during the fallout from the aforementioned incest allegations against Chris, who was now legally barred from [[14 Branchland Court]] and from contacting his mother for a week by [[Emergency Protective Order]], a conversation was held between Null and Chris. Null, who was allowed by Chris to help manage his email account, noticed an email notification from a bank showing a transfer of $750 from Barbara's bank account to Chris. When asked, Chris initially denied transferring any money, but later admitted to lying to Null about the funds after being confronted with proof.

Null then notified the [[jerkop|police]] that Chris had taken money from Barbara in a potential violation of the EPO and then cut all ties with Chris, blocking him on Telegram.<ref>[[Null DMs#Chris takes money from Barb]]</ref>

===Aftermath===
{{Quote|Fate and Karma are hitting Josh Moon Hard for his past sins and demonics. And yet, I still find curious if either he or [[Bella]] would have been better kissers than Judas Isacariot.|Chris, in a [[Jail Letter - 4 July 2022|July 2022 letter]]}}
In [[September 2021|September]], Chris, from jail, directed [[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021|a letter to Null]] in which he expressed upset at Null for "betraying" him over revealing the theft and mentioned that he had taken the money because he had felt uncomfortable sleeping in his car in a parking lot. He compared Null's behavior to Judas's betrayal of Jesus in the [[Chris and religion|Bible]]. The money which Chris had stolen had gone towards a room at the [[Regency Inn Richmond]].

==Gallery==
<center><gallery>
File:CWC follows Kiwi Farms.png|Chris follows [[Kiwi Farms]].
File:Sonichu 12-9 Bonus Pull-Out Poster.jpg|Pony Null appears in a bonus page for [[Sonichu 12-9|''Sonichu'' #12-9]].
File:July9Artwork.jpg|Artwork Chris made for Null in order to promote the July 2021 GoFundMe campaign.
File:Kiwimac.jpg|Null's ponysona defending [[Nightstar]] on a [[TSSSF]] card.
File:Teammates2021.jpg|Another TSSSF card.
</gallery></center>

==See also==
*[[Guard Dogs]]
*[[Idea Guys]]
*[[Kenneth Erwin Engelhardt]], referred to by some as OnionNull.
*[[Kiwi Farms]]
*[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)]]
*[[Kiwi Farms silver coin]]
*[[Null DMs]]
*[[OPERATION: Kingsnake]]

{{References}}

{{Articleofthenow}}
{{SecondExile}}
{{IdeaGuySaga}}
{{GuardDogSaga}}
{{EverfreeSaga}}
{{IncestSaga}}
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Chris and sex

2024-09-14T00:07:46Z

Necromaster: grammar correction

{{Honest}}
{{HealthDisclosure}}
{{Incomplete|Information regaring Chris' sexual frustration, and how he copes with it}}
[[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] has a warped view of '''sexual intercourse''' (a.k.a. '''hanky-panky''' and '''romps in the hay'''<ref>Chris has used this phrase since approximately [[2018]], including in [[:File:SchuComic12-9Page29.JPG|Sonichu #12-9]], on his [[July 2018 social media posts#BronyCon thoughts|polyamorous marriage]] and on his [[Incest fallout chat leaks#Chris texts about incest with his mother|incest with his mother]].</ref>), mostly stemming from stunted sexual development, [[Borb|a sheltered upbringing]], and the [[Autism|twisted, disjointed]] [[Chris and reality|worldview]] he acquired as a result. He first developed an understanding of sex from watching softcore porn on HBO at around age 16. He describes pornographic films as "educational".<ref>[[Miyamoto Saga#Chris Sets the Record STRAIGHT]]</ref>

==Knowledge of sex==
In his mind, Chris has mastered all there is to know about sex, and now regards himself as a bit of a guru. He has said that kissing a woman is "magical and delightful... sweet and melting like ice cream or chocolate", a description he [[Things Chris has ripped off|stole]] from ''[[Sailor Moon]]''.<ref>[[Mailbag 18#He might as well be talking about how to pilot the space shuttle|Mailbag 18]]</ref> In truth, for much of the time he was presenting this advice Chris had yet to even kiss a girl.<ref name="Jackie E-mails 2">[[Jackie E-mails 2]]</ref>

What he knows about sex he's picked up from rudimentary [[high school]] [[Dating education|sex education]] or [[List of Chris's Adam & Eve purchases|pornography]]. This has engendered many false beliefs in Chris, which he sticks to religiously. Readers who brave his [[Chris Sex Logs|sex chat logs]] should immediately notice what's going wrong – Chris's fantasies are merely recreations of what he's seen in pornos, rather than plausible sexual experiences. For example, he believed that [[Kacey]] would welcome a brutal tit-fucking followed by load after load of [[navy]] to the face.<ref>[[Kacey Phone Call]]</ref>

Other examples of Chris's crude misconceptions about sex abound. He mimics female porn stars' sex positions, spreads an imaginary vagina a yard across,<ref name="JR Eyes">[[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV]]</ref> thinks that the clitoris is located on the female body where the [[wikipedia:Perineum|perineum]] is located on the male one<ref>[[September 2014 Facebook Posts#Introducing the Un-clit]]</ref> and believes that electric shocks to the vagina are pleasurable.<ref name="Cums cat">[[CWC Cums for a Cat]]</ref> He also seems to believe that a woman's vagina is higher up on the woman's body that it actually is;<ref>[[:File:SchuComicSP3P7.jpg]]</ref> this is undoubtedly due to his experience with his [[Kimmi|sex]] [[Officer Nasty|dolls]]. The "missionary cowgirl" position mentioned in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]] is a contradiction in terms. He can't even get the most basic double entendres correct, wearing a terrible [[CWC Cola|Mountain Dew]] parody shirt thinking it's an invitation for women to try and ride his broken [[penis]].<ref name="JR Eyes" /> He thinks that his [[Virgin with rage|virginity]] is a precious and sought-after treasure which women will come in droves to take (he even went so far as to use it as a bargaining chip to haggle with a prostitute), and believes that [[mass debating]] ultimately makes him better at sex.

With Chris's [[Chris and English|slippery grip on language]], he is also noticeably confused about basic sexual terminology. For example, Chris told Ivy he had a "sticky dream" about her. When Ivy asked if he meant a wet dream, he replied, "No, that's when you pee yourself, silly!"<ref>[[Ivy Q&A#Threats]]</ref> While he may have the best of intentions, his word choices unwittingly present him in a very bad light. He refuses to use common terms – either medical or slang – for sex organs, instead calling penises "[[duck]]s" and "[[pickle]]s", and vaginas and vulvae "[[china]]" or "tom-tom" out of a childish aversion borne of disgust.

In [[August 2011]], Chris said he is into female domination.<ref>[[Calling Out Jack Thaddius - Ahuviya]]</ref> (going as far as to draw Sonichu and Rosechu performing the act in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]]).

===Reproductive Biology===
{{Main|Biology#Reproductive biology}}
[[File:Female anatomy according to chris.png|thumb|A moderately detailed portrait of what Chris probably thought females looked like before meeting [[Mia Hamm]].]]

Chris's understanding on reproductive biology had primarily come from what he had seen in porn.

===Books on the Subject===

Chris had obtained a copy of the book [[Ultimate Guide to Sex and Disability]], which he had told [[Null]] about on 5 July 2021. As a result of reading this book, Chris came to believe that he could mentor people about dating and sex. Chris had especially shown this in conversations he had with [[Fiona]], where he attempts to advise her on how to approach a potential lover when she goes off to college.<ref>[[Fiona DMs#Dating Advice]]</ref> Chris had seemed to twist or misunderstand many of the passages found in this book, taking it to be a book on how to perform sex on disabled people, rather than one ''for'' disabled people.

==Moral Basis==

{{Dated}}

===Straightness===

{{main|Chris and sexuality}}

Chris's stance on sexual orientations have always been iffy at best. Prior to his transition to a Tomgirl, he has shown a fear of losing his straightness. This obsessive demand for people to "STAY STRAIGHT" has been one of the first noted and exploited aspects of Chris since his discovery. Many trolls had jokingly declared this as an indicator of him repressing his sexuality in some fashion, only for it to end up being the case in the long run.

===Religion===
[[Image:DatingEducation.jpg|thumb|250px|69ing? Intercourse? ''Really''? In a ''children's'' comic? Because they should know all about this stuff.]]
{{quote|You have heard that it was said by them of old time, You shall not commit adultery: but I say to you, that whosoever looks on a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart.|Matthew 5:27-28}}

Sex was at one point viewed, through Chris's eyes, by the Bible – or rather, by his religion, as Chris's Biblical knowledge is extremely poor. Chris was very strict on keeping to the word of God when male homosexuality is the topic, vehemently stating that he ''hates'' homos, but with no hesitation views lesbian porn and approves of it [[Mass debating|masturbatorily]]<ref>[[CWC's Second Message]]</ref>, and as of 2014, seemed to be adopting a more progressive view of even gay men and their rights (albeit begrudgingly). In 2015 Chris made a video lamenting his "past" homophobia and clarifying that he apparently now has great liking and admiration for male homosexuality, [[Retroactive continuity|retconning]] the viscous homophobic tirade of [[Sonichu 10]] into a bizarre zombie apocalypse, implying that he realizes religion is not an excuse for discrimination. Another violation of his Christian morals is the fact that he planned on losing his virginity on the [[Third date|third or fourth date]] with his true sweetheart (read: first girl who will last three dates with Chris). This is, of course, blatant violation of the Christian value of marriage before sex.

The Bible also frowns upon [[Nudes|pornographers]], of which he is very guilty and holds no apparent [[Chris and remorse|remorse]]. These double standards cause many trolls to despise him, seeing as he selectively chooses what to denigrate and what is OK in his own personal dogma, although to be somewhat fair, he's far from the only follower of the Christian faith to do so.

Despite people pointing out these contradictions, even quoting passages of the Bible, he will deny it. This is most likely because he goes to [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|a very liberal church]], so any question about premarital sex is probably interpreted quite liberally, and Chris believes that his church and ''only'' his church defines the entirety of religious morality - as it applies to him, anyway. When Chris asks Rocky about passages quoted to him by [[trolls]], she only fuels his à la carte Christianity by saying things like sex before marriage is okay as long as the couple is in love, which contradicts Christian doctrine.<ref>[[Mumble 8]]</ref> In summary, Chris picked and chose what parts of Christian doctrine suit his own prejudices, and disregards the ones that would interfere with his [[Love Quest]].

===Sexism===

Chris seems to consider a female sexual partner as a rubber stamp over his (alleged) sexual orientation. Flying in the face of any moral system he's ever held, he announced his desire to upload on the Internet a video of his first full sexual intercourse, even if his hypothetical partner refused to consent to it.<ref>[[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence#The Introduction Image Space is NOT Ad Space (CCS)]]</ref> After further prodding, he added that he would simply hide the camera, record the event without her consent and blur her face before making the video public.<ref>[[Mailbag 31#In which Chris crosses yet another line]]</ref> In [[CCWC's Final Warning to the Second CWC]], Chris indicated that if a woman accused him of being gay in person, he would sexually assault them by demanding they submit to a kiss and allow him to videotape the act, possibly as a way of proving his straightness.

For Chris, as stated above, [[Women's rights|a woman is just a living, sentient sex-toy]], existing only to validate him as a heterosexual. As long as they're straight and younger than him, of course.

==Chris in the act==
[[Image:JULAY-small.gif|frame|right|Christian [[For Julie's Eyes Only|professing his love]] for "[[BlueSpike|Julie]]".]]
Leaked tapes of Chris's audio sex with [[Julie]], and the infamous sex tape with Kimmi shed light on Chris as he acts out on his fantasies. In particular, the sex tape shows how Chris assumes ''female'' positions, notably riding on top of Kimmi in a scene straight out of a porno. It seems that Chris's entirety of knowledge about sexual relationships stems from ignoring the [[JERKS|men]] in pornography (due to fear of becoming a [[homo]]).

However, it should be noted that in most of Chris's Rule 34 drawings the characters do tend to assume positions which are fitting for their gender, including Chris.<ref>For examples, see the [[Sonichu 8#The uncensored scenes|uncensored panels]] from Sonichu 8, [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack]], [[CWCRockin4Way.jpg]], the [[Giant Penis Comic]] and [[Jackie E-mails 14]].</ref> It might be that Chris adopts female positions not so much due to ignorance regarding sex, but more because of [[Tomgirl pictures|his identification with the opposite gender]].

Chris's view of cunnilingus, put on display in [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV]], involves slobbering all over a woman's vagina. Despite all his knowledge of porn, he fails to see how cunnilingus is more than just slobbering, but proper tongue action to stimulate the clitoris.

In the leaked media, Chris displays that he may have some issues with delayed orgasm. This can either be physiological (bent duck, [[Obesity|being overweight]], lack of endurance) or psychological in nature (performance anxiety, high expectations, intrusive homoerotic thoughts, subconscious guilt about sex), or a combination thereof.

In the 2018 [[All Star]] video, Chris is seen tugging his [[duck]] along to the song. He remains flaccid the entire time; his inability to get an erection is possibly a side effect of [[Transgender|HRT]]. If this is true, Chris will certainly not be getting any hanky-panky in the future.

During his time losing his virginity to a [[Mia Hamm| prostitute]] its worth noting that he first received a blowjob, then demanded cowgirl before possible missionary later; [[Obesity| but luckily for her]] he couldn't last very long and finished just after she rid him for a bit; this is important as it points to 2 big problems with Chris; first his lack of self control due to him [[Navy| finishing]] so quickly, second is that he ordered possibly the laziest sex position in the book, with Mia doing pretty much all of the physical exercise with Chris being a lazy fuck.

Chris's second sexual partner in his life was none other than his own [[Barb|mom]], the exact details of the [[Affair with Mother|incestuous affair]] is a bit vague but needless to say every act described by Chris is extremely disturbing and not for the faint of heart.

===Contraceptives===

{{quote|Confidentially, I wear a condom during the second half when I masturbate; I use Trojan or LIfestyles brand (Trojan mostly)

And I used condoms when I fooled with the [[Officer Nasty|L.D.s]] as well.|Chris, [[Jackie E-mails 1]]}}

Condoms, or as Chris has called them "'''raincoats'''", are thin latex coverings worn over a man's penis for the purpose of birth control. However, Chris seemed to understand the condom as more of a symbol for promoting safe premarital sex rather than as a contraceptive. Aside from promoting safe sex and justifying premarital sex, Chris has also drawn his male Sonichu characters with condoms in order to censor their penises. Chris has stated that before his third date with [[Blanca]], he'd wear a condom for the first two times they've had sex, only to have non-protected sex by the third date, showing that he also believed that condoms serve more as some kind of gateway to pregnancy. Chris had a box of chocolate-flavored condoms that he purchased to be prepared for his first time. Chris had given a few different dates for when they expired; some time in 2010 <ref>[[Chris Sex Logs#Condoms]]</ref> and January 2013.<ref>[[IRC (27 December 2008)]]</ref>

Chris reportedly also wore a condom that was flavored like green apple while engaging in sex with Mia Hamm.<ref>[[July 2020 social media posts]]</ref>. Its not entirely clear whether the condom was entirely successful or not due to him mentioning that a "Smidge" of Navy had leaked out after their first round together, meaning he either kept them in his pocket far too long, the condom didn't fit entirely properly around his [[Duck]], he became flaccid way faster than he should have, or he's an idiot who mistook a smear of lube or vaginal discharge for semen; knowing Chris any of these [[Chris and negligence| explanations]] [[Duck| are]] [[Health| equally]] [[Slow in the minds| possible]]. For those wondering however, it's probably safe to assume [[Mia Hamm]] won't be harboring [[Crystal]] any time soon; even by some non-existent chance he managed to get her pregnant, she would have likely been on the pill anyway.

Chris would later reveal to [[Null]] that he was using a condom while having sex with his "over 50 girlfriend", who was later discovered to be [[Barb]]. While ploughing a woman like Barb would cause anyone to instinctively wear the thickest condom available, then get themselves tested a few times over just in case (all of which Chris did); realistically there wasn't much reason to do so since the risk of STD and pregnancy was non-existent since both were [[Health|(at least where STIs were concerned)]] clean and both were completely infertile.

== Sexual Frustration ==

Chris has had a yearning to have a girl to have sex with since the start of his [[Love Quest]] in 2003. The first manifestation of this was when he was clawing at [[Megan]] where his pining for her went ignored or denied as any sane person would.

Throughout the first half of [[2021]], Chris' search for a sweetheart had resumed. Chris has expressed great sexual frustration, yearning for a physical girl to have sex with over his [[polyamorous marriage|ficticious sweethearts]]. According to [[Kyle]], at some point in [[February 2021]] Chris expressed interest in wanting to get a hooker,<ref name=feb21hooker>[[The Place chats (March 2021)#Chris wanted a hooker]]</ref> something which Chris was once not in favor of.

In [[March 2021]], following a masturbation session, Chris had a conversation with the [[Watchmen]], in which he discussed how, despite not disliking or disapproving of the act of masturbation, he felt that he was [[Gender dysphoria|born the wrong gender]].<ref>[[Masturbation discussions#16 March 2021]]</ref> In a [[May 2021]] conversation, he claimed that over the years, he would continually consume pornography and masturbate to get "the hard-on". He expressed how until recently, he felt that he had not fully explored his sexuality, nor any other means to stimulate himself, and even then claims to still overthink the process of [[List of things Chris has shoved up his ass|inserting a dildo or vibrator up his ass]]. <ref>[[Masturbation discussions#18 May 2021]]</ref>

==Means of Coping with Sexual Frustration==

=== Masturbation and Porn Consumption ===

{{Main|Mass debating}}

Chris has had a history of masturbating, starting when he discovered he could stimulate his penis by rubbing it against a washcloth when he was 15. In 2009, he made use of a washbasin in the kitchen of his house while performing the act, and had claimed in the [[Ivy Q&A]] that he made use of a pillow that he'd fold in half, treating it as a mastrubation tool. Since then, masturbation has been an outlet for Chris's sexual frustration.

In a [[February 2021]] conversion with [[The Watchmen]], Chris said "Masturbation takes Fifteen LONG, Tiring and Annoying Minutes, with my body, regardless of whatever method or tool utilized. And it has literally been that long in unenjoyable time since I first rubbed one out while my body was 15. And that was Looooong before I ever started on HRT in 2016. So, not only is masturbation out of the question, it's more misery-inducing."<ref>[[Masturbation discussions#27 February 2021]]</ref>

=== Drawing Porn ===

{{quote|As for the drawing itself, I've realized that it was done not only out of inspired fantasy, angst against E.D., and love for you, but also a major release for my crazy, mixed-up hormones. If I didn't have the foresight to put my pent-up frustrations and feelings in the form of something, I might have become an abusive maniac, so thank god for allowing me to release my bottled up frustrations in a more positive, yet not so "Politically Correct", and not physically hurting others, method.|Chris on how he might have approached Megan had he not drawn [[SheCameForCWC.jpg]]<ref>[[Megan Emails, 2008#Chris continues bothering her about ED]]</ref>}}

Chris has on more than one ocassion drawn pornography of his own in order to release sexual tension. Chris claimed to [[Megan Schroeder]] that he had in part created the controversial drawing [[SheCameForCWC.jpg]] because he felt that doing so would inhibit him from sexually advancing on Megan, as he had feelings for her, and would have become an "abusive maniac" had he not created the drawing. The fact that Chris had decided to use what was essentially a product of his own pent-up sexual frustration as a means of attempting to get his Encyclopedia Dramatica page down only seemed to leave a much more bitter taste in Megan's mouth after announcing this.

During the period when Chris became much more sexually frustrated in 2021, he displayed this more openly towards friends, and even on his social media. He sent a picture of his Chris Chan Sonichu persona wearing a [[negligee]] while giving a seductive look to [[The WCT]], and talked to him about how arousing it is to wear one.

=== Sex Toys ===

Chris has made [[List of Chris's Adam & Eve purchases|numberable purchases]] for sex toys, porn DVDs and inflatable sex dolls.

=== Relationships with OCs ===

For a time, partly due to influence from the [[Idea Guys]], Chris has temporarily given up on his search for a sweetheart in pursuit for being in relationships with fictional characters instead.

=== Wet Dreams ===

Chris has also had his share of wet [[dreams]], particularly whenever he had held strong feelings for his flavor of the week. The first of these wet dreams was of [[PandaHalo]], where he dreamed about the both of them getting naked, having sex, and then Chris finally climaxing. Chris also had a dream where he was in a labyrinth filled with water, where he met a woman and had sex with her, Chris recreated the dream in a Flipnote animation. The strangest of these was of one where Chris claims that he "almost had sex" with the Sonic character Sally Acorn, which had left him sexually frustrated afterwards. Chris talks about another wet dream he had two months later, this time of the ''Sonic X'' character Chris Thorndyke aged-up and "handsome". Chris also expresses the sexual frustration he felt after waking up from this dream too.<ref>[[MKR DMs]]</ref>

=== Sex with Mother ===

It had long been joked and speculated by trolls, christorians, and observers alike that Chris has much more intimate feelings with [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] than he let on. These speculations were confirmed in July of 2021 when screenshots were leaked of Chris detailing to Isabella Loretta Janke his incestuous exploits. Null later revealed worrying conversations he had previously with Chris about a new "over 50's" girlfriend he had been using condoms with. We will leave it to you to put 2 and 2 together.

==Sexual Deviance==

Chris's skewed basis of his understanding of sex leads him to exhibiting several instances of sexual deviance.

===Innappropriate Interactions with Women===

To say the least, Chris's social interactions hinder his ability to understand sex etiquette.

===Pedophilia and Age Disparity===
{{main|Pedofork}}
{{Wise|he is a pedophile.}}

Pedophilia has always been a touchy subject in regards to Chris. Chris had at first attempted to deny all claims that he was a pedophile, even creating a new word, "pedofork", as a sort of comeback to those who referred to him as such, apparently being created solely to make the word rhyme in "I'm not a pedofork, you dorks". Chris has tried to retain this image by removing any references that may be interpreted as him being a pedophile in his Sonichu comics. Most infamously, Chris had characters in [[Sonichu 8]] make comments about "dumb laws" when [[Zapina Rosechu]], who is 14 years old, asks to participate in stripping for Women's Rights.

At a glance, Chris seems to adhere to the age of consent, once advertising on his [[Attraction Sign|Attraction Signs]] that he would only date someone of legal age. Chris however does not seem to understand or care about how creepy it is for him to be attracted to women that are half his age, and seems to see it as yet another barrier for his Love Quest. Chris has cat-called an artist whom he believed to be "entering young adulthood", has made sexual remarks towards [[Bella]]; despite her having no interest in Chris, and has shown arousal when [[Fiona]] exposed herself to him.

===Necrophillia===

While Chris himself has never engaged in sex with a dead body to the best of anyone's knowledge, Chris has [[Jail Letter - 29 July 2022|recently]] been referring to barb as a zombie like husk since even before they began engaging in [[Affair with Mother|their affair]] and that her soul has already moved on to her rosechu form in C-197; complaining that her lifeless body was still clinging to life and preventing him from going back home. Meaning that Chris is at least partially comfortable with the idea of having sex with his dead mother.

In another disturbing incident, Chris recorded [[It's not that cold]], where he proceeds to imitate {{w|Buffalo Bill (character)|Buffalo Bill}} and pretends to get inside his dead dog [[Patti Chandler|Patti]]. While not engaging in sex with her, he does take a bizarre sexual pleasure in wearing her corpse (or at least pretending to do so, since he was too lazy to actually dig her up).

===Bestiality===
{{quote|I can imagine myself doing it with a [[Patti-chan|collie]] at least. you know, like Lassie.|Chris to [[PandaHalo]]<ref name="collie">[[IRC (27 December 2008)]]</ref>}}
[[File:PattiLuv.jpg|thumb|Run, Patti, run!]]
[[File:Super-mode.jpg|thumb|left|90px|Chris, sporting a [[ECV 00002‎|homemade fursuit]].]]

In [[December 2008]], Chris told [[PandaHalo]] he would be willing to have sex with a female dog for her.<ref name="collie" /> However, in his [[Chris-chan Discusses...‎|interview with ScrewAttackEurope]], Chris says he's against bestiality, then hoists himself by his own petard by claiming that Sonichu & co. are not "half-humans" but "all-animals" with human form; so technically this isn't bestiality, as they're animals having sex with each other.

Chris suggested that Brian from ''[[Family Guy]]'' be paired up with "any sexy breed" of dog.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20161007175309/http://archive.sonichu.com:80/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Family_Guy The Family Guy article on CWCipedia]</ref>

In [[The Red-Maned Deer]], Chris recites a poem he wrote about having sex with a deer, but at the end of it states, "This was, in fact, NOT an act of bestiality. For you see, the Red-Maned Deer I have been communicating with and tracking, is really...my lo-my womanly sweetheart, named [[Jacklyn Romy]]."<ref>[[The Red-Maned Deer]]</ref> The fact that the deer is Jackie is obvious, but in spite of this he explicitly stated that it was her at the end.

In a photo of the [[Rental House]] from June 2014, the Chandler minivan bears a bumper sticker reading "I Sleep with Dogs".<ref>[[:File:Chandler Cars 1600w.jpg]]</ref> What exactly this means is yet to be determined.

====Is Chris a furry?====
{{Wise|he is a furry.}}

{{quote|I am half-Sonichu and half-Pokemon, thus making me a "furry".|Chris, May 2018, during the aftermath of the [[Idea Guys]] saga.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20220209025754/https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/997320832040005634</ref>}}

Whether Chris could actually be considered a furry was debated for a long time.<ref>From [[Sarah May Skype Logs#Chris tries to leave|the Sarah May Skype Logs]]: [7:17:25] '''Sarah May''': Did you feel sexually aroused when you drew them? [7:17:34] '''Christopher C.W.C.''': a bit.</ref> There are some things that point in that direction. Chris certainly gets aroused by provocative drawings of anthropomorphic animals (at least when they are [[Sonic]] characters), and he has drawn unsolicited porn of his own Sonic recolors. [[Chris-Chan Sonichu]] is in many ways similar to a fursona, and Chris even role-played the character while cybering with [[Julie]].<ref name="Cums cat" /> Finally, in the [[Giant Penis Comic]], Chris and [[Ivy]] both transform into anthropomorphic animals during the act of sex. On the other hand, [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] noted that Chris was prejudiced against a male furry who patronized [[The GAMe PLACe]] because he happened to be [[gay]].<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Racism and homophobia]]</ref> Given the high proportion of gay and bisexual men in the furry fandom, Classic Chris would almost certainly have been uncomfortable at any kind of furry gathering.

In [[May 2018]], under the influence of the [[Idea Guys]], Chris declared himself a furry.<ref>[[May_2018_social_media_posts#Michael_Hirtes_BTFO]]</ref> The Idea Guys also [[brainwashed]] him into believing he is in a [[polyamorous marriage]] with his anthropomorphic [[imaginary friends]] [[Magi-Chan]] and [[Cryzel]], and Chris believes he has had sexual relations with these imaginary friends.<ref>[[July 2018 social media posts#BronyCon thoughts]]</ref>

Also of note is that in [[July 2020|mid-2020]], he binge-watched the [[Netflix]] anime ''BNA: Brand New Animal'', commenting it was "very good" but said nothing further than that.<ref>[[July_2020_social_media_posts#Animu]]</ref>

While Chris may loosely qualify as a furry due to his obsession with anthropomorphic [[Electric Hedgehog Pokemon]] and [[My Little Pony|ponies]], he has never shown an interest in the broader furry community.

===Oedipus Complex===
In simple terms, it is the attachment of the child to the parent of the opposite sex, accompanied by envious and aggressive feelings toward the parent of the same sex.<ref> https://www.uvm.edu/~jbailly/courses/tragedy/student%20second%20documents/Oedipus%20Complex.html#:~:text=Definition,parent%20of%20the%20same%20sex.</ref> Chris has exuded such an Oedipus Complex for years given his feelings for his mother coddling him while also showing resentment for Bob now and then, especially whenever he’d scold Chris for his antics.
See below for more details:
* [[Affair with Mother]]
* [[Chris_and_sex#Sex_with_Mother|Sex with Mother]]
* [[Chris_and_sex#Dreams_of_sex_with_Barb|Dreams of sex with Barb]]
* [[Chris_and_sex#Actual_sex_with_Barb|Actual sex with Barb]]

{{-}}

==Prostitution==
[[Image:Virginbreaker.png|thumb|Chris's leaked [[Facebook]] announcement that he had lost his virginity. Initially igniting a firestorm of controversy, Chris himself let it slip that she was found "somewhere on the backpage" soon after.]]

Given how badly Chris wanted to lose his virginity, many observers have wondered why he didn't immediately spend some of his [[tugboat]] on a prostitute. [[Mumble 4]], from [[February 2009]], answered that question for a while. There, Chris explained that paying for sex would render the act "meaningless," and he was – in a rare display of common sense – afraid of contracting a sexually transmitted disease.

Needs must as the devil drives, though. While being blackmailed by [[Jack Thaddeus]] in the summer of [[2009]], Chris attempted to solicit the services of a [[Craigslist]] prostitute to fuck on camera so he could recover his hacked [[PlayStation Network]] accounts. After describing his personal problems to the prostitute, she hung up on him. Chris was apparently trying to get free sex from the hooker with long, rambling stories about his horrible life to try and gain sympathy. He was genuinely shocked when she didn't offer to fuck him out of pity, unaware that prostitutes, by definition, only have sex with men for money.

Previously, in [[March 2009]], [[Bryan Bash]] had sent a trio of prostitutes to [[14 Branchland Court|Chris's house]] so he would no longer be a virgin with rage. [[Hooker incident|Hilarity ensued]].

By the beginning of [[2010]], Chris's views on prostitution had further softened. According to his [[Vivian Gee E-mails 2|conversations with Vivian Gee]], around the turn of the year he was attempting to save $100 out of his monthly budget to buy himself a whore for his 28th [[birthday]]. This, presumably, was the "hundred dollars for a damn hooker" he referred to when [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|begging the Wallflower for sex]] on YouTube in [[March 2010]].

Between [[April 2010|April]] and [[July 2010]], under the name of [[Carlos Chantor]], Chris tried to offer himself up as a male escort. He described himself as "[[Chris and reality|Experienced for Her Pleasure]]", with an [[obesity|average]] body type.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 6]]</ref>

Later, under the guise of his troll persona [[JenkinsJinkies]], Chris attempted to acquire the contact details of the hookers Brian Bash had previously hired. While it is possible that Chris merely wished to make his disguise more convincing by implying that 14 year old Jenkins wished to hire prostitutes, it seems far more likely that Chris actually was considering hiring Brian's girls.

In [[April 2012]] a [[Facebook]] status leaked in which Chris announced that he was no longer a virgin. Suspicion arose that this was due to the help of a hooker. Chris provided further evidence suggesting that [[Mia Hamm|the girl]] was a prostitute on 1 [[May 2012|May]] when he wrote in a [[Facebook#Hey, Trollies|Facebook note]] that his virgin breaker can be found "somewhere on the [[Wikipedia:Backpage|backpage]]", a website known for featuring sex service ads.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20210206132219/https://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/19/opinion/kristof-not-quite-a-teen-yet-sold-for-sex.html?_r=1]</ref> On 28/29 June 2014 Chris openly admitted that his first time was with a prostitute, and that he had sex with her twice.<ref>[[Other documents#Chris's wingman]]</ref>

In [[June 2016]], Chris himself made [[Women Only Need Apply - No STD's|another attempt]] to enter the prostitution business, now as a [[Tomgirl|trans woman]], going by the name "Stephanie Bustcakes". Predictably, Chris was unable to find any "women of any orientation" who were interested in paying him $100 to have sex either "one way or the lesbian way", and the Stephanie Bustcakes persona has not yet reappeared.

[[File:ChrisChanSexForMoney.png|thumb|200px]]
On 24 April 2018, while under the influence of the [[Idea Guys]], who had allegedly been extorting him out of thousands of dollars, Chris announced:<ref>[[April 2018 social media posts#Will provide house tour and suck dicks for money]]</ref>

{{quotebox|Anyone living locally to me in Virginia, or visiting in Charlottesville, I’ll give y’all BJs for money too. Serious.}}

A fan on Twitter messaged him about it. In their conversation, Chris said:<ref name=price>[[:File:NAME YOUR PRICE!!.jpeg]]</ref>

{{quotebox|Consider me a beginner with experience blowing [[Cryzel and Magi-Chan|my loving boyfriend]], willing to learn and adapt further. $50 for that BJ from this celeb; if he wants butt sex, that will be $100. Cash only.}}

Chris told [[CWCProtectSquad]] member Tings Tingz that he was indeed serious about prostituting himself, had several offers, but had not taken on any customers. When asked if he would consider, Chris responded, "a little from Column 'A' and the latter from Column 'B'".<ref>[[Tings Tingz DMs#Prostitution post]]</ref>

After the [[Guard Dogs]] rescued Chris from the Idea Guys' influence, he reversed course and disavowed the prostitution messages on 7 May 2018, saying he had been coerced.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20191107173201/https://twitter.com/cwcsonichu/status/993693423084318720</ref> He went further on 25 May, saying he had been forced to write such things, and implied the Idea Guys had been behind it.<ref>[[May 2018 social media posts#Calling out the Idea Guys]]</ref>

According to [[Kyle]], in [[February 2021]], Chris wanted a hooker and asked Kyle to ask [[Null]] to get him one.<ref name=feb21hooker></ref>

==Incest==
{{See also|Affair with Mother}}
{{Split Off}}
{{Quote|I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with [[Barbara Chandler|my mother]].|Chris, 2016}}

[[File:CWCSonichu Rule34.jpeg|thumb|Chris having sex with his "son," Sonichu, in order to fulfill a prophecy to bring Crystal into the world.]]

Chris has long been suspected of having unnatural feelings about [[sex]] and family.

In [[2007]], Chris attempted to shock [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] into submission by posting his own [[Rule 34]] drawings, including one of himself [[Shecameforcwc.jpg|fingerbanging a nude brunette woman]]. ED users immediately concluded this was Crystal, Chris's imaginary twin sister in the comics. This charge infuriated Chris and therefore became the conventional wisdom. By the time Chris successfully convinced anyone that it was really [[Megan Schroeder]] in the drawing, the notion that Chris wants to bang his imaginary twin sister had already stuck.

[[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|Crystal]], Chris's imaginary twin sister, appeared as a [[:image:153-GirlfriendsGift.jpg|"girlfriend" card]] he made for ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'', and her attractiveness and desirability are brought up several times in the [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'']] comics well after being established as Chris's twin. Chris has shown complete ignorance in matters incestuous before; his [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] are all related (despite their type and appearance differences, they all come from [[homos|Sonic and the same male Pikachu]] – apart from that fact, they were all created by Chris and acknowledge him as such – Sonichu and Rosechu calling him father), but many of them are paired off with one another (notably Sonichu/Rosechu, Bubbles/Blake, and Magi/Silvana – Simonla was technically made by someone else), banging and some even [[Sonichu and Rosechu's children|having]] [[Sandy Rosechu|kids]]. Chris's own comic children are a form of incest – as Chris impregnated himself with his navy. Chris shrugs off [[Autism|all medical/science facts]] and lists the two as perfectly healthy and Autism Free.

Chris first expounded his views on incest to the internet on 31 [[January 2009]] during the [[Mumble 1|first Mumble chat]], when it was revealed that he did not fully understood the meaning of the word "incest". While he showed aversion toward incest in the chat, his condemnation of it was lukewarm, saying that he would only "definitely discourage that" and that lesbian incest is "possibly OK" due to no reproduction being involved. Compare this to his statements about male homosexuality from the same chat ("I hate homo males [...] I'd sooner have a [[Tomgirl Saga|sex change]] before I would ever turn into a homo") or to his statements about male homosexuality from earlier that month, saying that he would make it a crime and force its practitioners into having sex with members of the opposite gender.<ref>[[IRC (02 January 2009)]]</ref>

A year later, Chris's views became staunch. When a correspondent in the [[Mailbag]] pointed out that Chris's state allows cousin marriage but not same-sex marriage, Chris furiously denied it and wrote, "Cousin-Marriage is just as Terrible and Unholy as MARRYING YOUR OWN MOTHER OR FATHER!"<ref>[[Common Questions#5 January 2010]]</ref> When another correspondent responded to Chris by saying that he is happily married to his cousin and that their marriage is indeed legal in Virginia, Chris answered him by saying he was destined to hell for his relationship,<ref>[[Mailbag 34#Good luck in hell]]</ref> not realizing that incest is shown in a positive light in [[Chris and religion|the Bible]]. When the subject came up again in the next mailbag, Chris said that sexual relations between cousins are just as wrong as incest between parents and their children or between siblings, and that all those relationships were condemned in the "same part" of the Bible,<ref>[[Mailbag 35#I think he wanted a specific verse]]</ref> which is not actually true.<ref> [https://web.archive.org/web/20051223102404/http://www.cousincouples.com/?page=religion]</ref>

===Incest fics===
{{Needs Updating|[[November 2023 social media posts#Rant against incest fics]]}}
In [[February 2010]], Chris notably did not react to [[:File:Fkinglie.png|an extremely NSFW ad of himself]] on the [[CWCipedia]] depicting himself fingering Barb [[SheCameForCWC.jpg|like he did with a former friend in a certain illustration]], despite reacting to [[I am Alive|an ad claiming that he was dead]].

During the [[Idea Guy]] saga, the troll convinced Chris that [[Magi-Chan]] foretold of a prophecy in which [[Crystal]] would be born by Chris mating with Sonichu. He also informed Chris that if this was drawn, he wouldn't have to do it in real life. Chris complied<ref>https://archive.md/AL1PT</ref>. During the nonsensical [[Sonichu 13| issue 13]] of Sonichu incest is unsurprisingly everywhere, from [[Chris Chan Sonichu]] getting married to [[Magichan]] to Chris and Sonichu raping each other.

To the [[Watchmen]], Chris chatted about how he was upset over implications of incest in the ''Sonichu'' family, stating that he had written a piece to dispute the "ugh, Incest bullshit."<ref>[[Chats leaked by MKRs Bloody Chunks#Ugh, Incest]]</ref>

In a Facebook post from [[January 2020]], Chris reiterated his opposition to incest, writing "I, personally, seriously disapprove of incest and would never practice it at all" and "The Bottom Line is: Incest is Never 'Wincest' (Epic UGH!)".<ref>[[January 2020 social media posts#Incest is not wincest]]</ref>

===Dreams of sex with Barb===
On 10 August 2016, Chris posted a [[Facebook statuses|response]] to a mother-son couple who were arrested for incest. He admitted to "[having] dreams of having sex with my mother" but "Never acting on them ever." Among other things, he also implied that incest "offers a chance for better teaching the child how to better satisfy their eventual partner(s)." All this is in stark contrast to his earlier condemnation of incest, which raises the question of whether Chris was being TRUE and HONEST but changed his opinion later thanks to his growing degeneracy, or the likelier possibility it was [[Chris and hypocrisy|all for show]].

{{quotebox|I have a few things to say in response to this article. Firstly, the child was over 18, and surely the mother has talked it out with him beforehand. The child might have had social problems, or a situation where socializing or going out to socialize with other people, was a Greater Difficulty. Financial situation to prevent paying someone else to come over and help out in the situation. Moreover, it was the lifelong affections between parent and child. Also, the mother probably could not bear any ovum for children anymore.
Anyhow, who among Everyone in this world has not had a dream of having sex with one of their parents? Never acting on them ever, I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother.
Although incest is quite controversial topic, but there are circumstances where there would be not so much harm as one may think, feel or believe. The child is over 18; the mother is unable to have any more children at the time; birth control and protection is available and can be used (in a case of father/daughter, birth control Definitely should be used anyhow). Also, consider if the child is adopted; not as much biological.
Plus, this offers a chance for better teaching the child how to better satisfy their eventual partner(s). The schools can only teach from books; not so much practice. And Nobody wants to end up being a 20 or 30-plus year old Virgin. I know; That is a Huge, Enduring Pain.
Unless the sex act was abusive, hurtful, or Would result in an unwanted birth of a physical or mental challenged child, I would not judge or persecute the parent and child. I would encourage the child to socialize more; maybe make it easier for the child to meet more people his/her age.
Do Not send the mother and son to jail!}}

On 13 September 2019, while [[Spirit possession|role-playing]] as Magi-Chan, Chris would describe Barb as a "guilty pleasure waifu."<ref>[[September 2019 social media posts#Barbara was more of a "guilty pleasure" waifu]]</ref>

===Actual sex with Barb===

While the prospect of Chris having sex with Barb was joked about for many years, most people did not believe Chris would actually go through with it. Before the [[Incest call]] was leaked, there were numerous warning signs of what was to come, mainly being the fact Barb would force Chris to spoon her in bed for many years, and telling Mia Hamm that the sexual massage he gave her was the same that he gave his mother. Their actions around each other have indicated a history of incestuous interest, however many just assumed that this was a combination of Chris's [[autism]] making him act inappropriately and Barb's infamously controlling behaviour.

After the incest calls were leaked it was revealed that Chris had been engaging in regular sex with Barb every 3 nights or so since 27 June 2021. His "seduction" methods included giving her full body massages while making attempts to finger her, kissing her on the lips with Barb refusing to open her mouth and Chris making "Psychic connections" with her before, during and after their romps in the hay.

It's also noteworthy that Chris refers to Barb as "Barbie Chan" almost exclusively now; whether this has something to do with her supposed anime fanfiction characteristics, a bizarre pet name or Chris trying to subconsciously distance himself from their familial bonds is unknown.

==Rape==
Chris was very apathetic about the idea of consent, and to a larger extent, the act of rape. When [[PandaHalo]] told him she was raped by [[Clyde Cash]], he reacted nonchalantly. He even thought it would be appropriate for Panda to ''move in'' with her rapist ([[Chris and religion|which is technically in-line with certain archaic Christian principles]]), whom he called a "good man" for regretting the rape and for being willing to take care of the ensuing child.<ref>[[IRC (21 January 2009)]]</ref> Later on, long after the PandaHalo saga was over, he would wish her and her rapist a happy marriage.<ref>[[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)#Sarah Cassandra McKenzie, A.K.A. PandaHalo]]</ref> In [[iPods Down and Listen Up]], he didn't seem to realize that his improvised lyrics detailed a sexual act that would almost certainly be construed by others as rape. Chris eventually compared his ordeals with the trolls, particularly during the Classic Era to rape in his Facebook posts. (Since [[BlueSpike]]'s [[Julie Reveals Herself|most infamous incident]] involved an act that could be described as sexual abuse in front of several people, this is admittedly a fitting description.)

As far as ''Chris'' being a potential rapist is concerned, the situation was more complicated. For starters, as explained earlier, he admitted that he drew [[ShecameforCWC.JPG]] to prevent himself from acting on his sexual impulses against [[Megan Schroeder]], who had previously scolded him for inappropriately touching her. During a particularly [[IRC (23 July 2009)|disturbing chat]], he ([[:File:BillRiley.jpg|incognito]]) suggested that the trolls try to convince him to rape [[Rocky Shoemaker]]. He also evidently saw no issue with rape by fraud (essentially having sex with someone while tricking them into believing you're somebody else, meaning they didn't consent with you) as seen with his comic book counterpart when he travels forwards in time to have sex with his future wife [[Lovely Weather]] in the guise of being his future self [[Transgender|(whom is definitely a different person in the future)]]. During the [[Kacey Calls]], he attempted unsuccessfully to lure her to his place in the guise of being [[Liquid Chris]], again seeing absolutely nothing wrong with that.

In all likelihood, though, these parts of his behavior are most likely explained by the keys to understanding his behavior overall: his ignorance about the world and his persecution complex causes him to be quite [[naïve]] about how bad rape actually is. With the Rocky situation above, he likely said that as part of an odd, roundabout scheme to get the trolls arrested, but it's still pretty fucked up that he'd even suggest something like this, let alone tell her about it after.

In one of the [[Kacey Calls]], Chris states he believes that abortion in cases of rape should be the choice of the victim, and that they should not be pressured by others in their decision.

Despite joking about how uncomfortably close he was to his own mother, few actually believed that Chris had it in him to commit an act of rape. For instance, he tried to kiss [[Emily]] and gave up when she said no,<ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#A precious farewell (1:29:35–1:31:10)]]</ref> showing that he does understand the importance of consent... Or at least, he ''used'' to. Unfortunately, it seems that as of 2014, he has decided that he won't take "no" for an answer, and basically ''molested'' [[Catherine#The Date|Catherine during their second outing]] by hugging her and burying his head in her breasts even after she flatly told him not to. This gets even more disturbing when you consider [[Catherine E-mails#It IS Your Fault!|this e-mail]], where Chris outright says that he's [[Chris and his Ego|"entitled to a relationship"]]. Also not helping matters was Chris kissing multiple guests who posed with him at the [[TooManyGames]] convention regardless of consent, which ultimately got him kicked out.

Furthermore, it was argued that Chris didn't have a history of violence conducive to attempting sexual assault. Aside from his [[Death threats#Likelihood of Acting Out on Death Threats|habit of dishing out threats he can't possibly carry out]], [[28 October 2011|hitting Michael Snyder with a car]], and [[26 December 2014|macing a manager in the chest]], Chris is physically [[Chris and health|very weak and unfit]], and simply could not overpower an able-bodied person – the only outcome of him attempting it would be a swift knee to the [[duck]] followed by a rousing round of [[Kick the Autistic|America's favorite game]]. However, given Catherine's experience with Chris during their outing (in her words, she was taken by surprise and couldn't react to it), it was encouraged that women should exercise caution around him.

Interestingly, Chris details in [[Announcement 06292016]] that he wants all men to stay an arm's length distance away from him. Along with showing the insecurities he possesses concerning men, Chris seems to think that he is [[Chris and his ego|an attractive enough]] [[Transgender|transwoman]] for [[Jacob Sockness|a man]] to consider raping him.

==See also==
* [[Affair with Mother]]
* [[China]]
* [[Chris and his ego]]
* [[Chris and sexuality]]
* [[Chris Sex Logs]]
* [[Duck]]
* [[Homos]]
* [[List of Chris's Adam & Eve purchases]]
* [[Mass debating]]
* [[Naive]]
* [[Pickle]]
* [[Biology#Reproductive biology|Reproductive Biology]]
* [[Semen]]
* [[ShecameforCWC.JPG]]
* [[Women's rights]]

== References ==
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Chris and the law

2024-01-06T22:07:17Z

Necromaster: Past tense correction

:''This article is about Chris's criminal offenses. For the Warrant in Debt civil offenses, see [[Debt]]. For Chris's personal views on legislation, see [[Chris and politics]].''

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{{quote|...I was about to be handcuffed, but I would not have another handcuffing, so I fought, I was pinned, and I was handcuffed.|Chris describing a typical skirmish with authorities.<ref name=kick>[[28 October 2011#Email?]].</ref>}}

{{quote|I foreknew and foresaw that I was gonna end up in jail anyway. It was just popular in most of the other timelines.|Chris while awaiting legal proceedings on his [[incest]] charge.<ref>[[Jail Call - 1 November 2021]]</ref>}}

[[Image:116-CWCCop.jpg|thumb|Chris always keeps a watchful eye out for criminal scum who would dare [[Chris and hypocrisy|steal his already-stolen characters]].]]

'''Laws''' are a set of formal rules established by a society, generally to protect its members and ensure the orderly function of society. Their observance is usually maintained by [[Jerkop|law enforcement]], and penalties are placed on those who disobey the laws.

For [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]], however, these just serve as another deterrent in his endless [[Love Quest|quest]] for [[china]] and a weapon with which to threaten his real and supposed [[trolls|enemies]].

As of 2018, Chris has seven misdemeanors – three from [[28 October 2011|hitting Michael Snyder with his car]], one from [[26 December 2014|macing the Yellow-Shirted Foe]], two from failing to acquire proper tags for [[Snoopy and Clover]] and one for trespassing after being banned from [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]] – which resulted in him being placed on the [[Therapeutic Docket]].

Virginia has a {{w|three-strikes law}} – which usually means that if someone is brought in a third time for a felony or misdemeanor, the sentence if found guilty is more severe than usual (in some states, the sentence is life in prison). The specifics of a three-strikes law vary by state, with some states having several such laws. Seeing as how Chris has never been sentenced to jail time despite several misdemeanors, he may not fall under the scope of the Virginia law. However, since the state law seems to say that third-time ''violent'' offenders will receive harsher sentencing (and Chris appears to have two – hitting Snyder and pepper-spraying a manager), this could come into play if Chris ever finds himself facing charges for a third violent offense (which, it should be noted, he is currently not as of 2022 – he has been charged with [[Affair with Mother|incest]], not rape).

Ironically, in Chris's birth year of 1982, Virginia passed a law that would protect citizens from dangerous repeat offenders. Unfortunately, they could not protect [[Michael Snyder]] from being hit by a car, the [[Yellow-Shirted Foe]] from being pepper-sprayed, countless innocent women from being stalked and harassed, and [[Barbara Chandler]] from being fucked by her own son.

Ironically enough, Chris's grandfather's occupation is given as a security guard according to his death certificate <ref name=RobertSr>https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9P2-BH61-Q?cc=1584959</ref>

==Understanding==
{{quote|I have been giving him reasons since the [[Jerkop|police]] came in June of [[2008]], and nothing has sunken into that [[Hello, Juffalo|clown head]] of his.|[[Michael Snyder]]<ref><s>[http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=6odVsyr3I40]</s> (the video is fine, but that comment is no longer present as of Jun 2014)</ref>}}

[[Image:Impliedshooting.jpg|thumb|left|Violence is [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Comic Chris]]'s usual solution to law enforcement.]]

As his grip on [[Chris and reality|reality]], Chris's understanding of the law is tenuous at best, and dangerously [[naïve]] at worst. Chris legitimately believes trolling is illegal. He regularly threatens internet [[trolls]] with legal action and makes no distinction in severity between a troll [[Ivy Q&A|threatening violence]] against Chris and a troll uploading a harmless picture of [[Rosechu]] with a [[pickle]] to the Internet. Chris himself is prone to making [[I'LL BREAK YOU DEAD|extremely violent threats]], such as [[Sign Destruction Video|threatening to murder]] [[Vivian Gee]] and her entire family because of her creating the [[audiobooks]]. He's done everything from calling the police to convincing his father to write to then-President [[George W. Bush]] in an attempt to get rid of his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page. He has even poorly attempted to impersonate the President in a hilarious attempt to convince the trolls at ED to take down his page,<ref><s>http://encyclopediadramatica.rs/index.php?title=Chris-chan&diff=prev&oldid=1997405266</s> (dead link as of Jun. 2014)</ref> and has attempted to contact the former President, [[Barack Obama]], to stop people from posting gay ads on the CWCipedia. Chris also believes that the laws in [[CWCville]] and the laws stated in ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' should be enforced ''in real life''.<ref>[[Mailbag 55#Draconian fun!]]</ref>

Chris himself doesn't have much respect for laws and rules, particularly when [[Chris and hypocrisy|their enforcement inconveniences him]]. During his time at [[Target]], he saw nothing wrong with exploiting the free refill policy and loitering for hours at a time in a privately-owned establishment while harassing female customers and apparently [[Attraction Sign|soliciting hanky-panky]]. Chris often remarks that his [[Virgin with rage|emotional state]] entirely justifies his actions, stating in [[Vivitheg's AIM chat]] that he should be excused for disturbing the peace by literally screaming "NOOOOOOO!" loudly in the middle of a crowded mall.<ref>[[Sonichu 1#Sub-Episode 2: Christian Chandler in "The Rise & Fall of My Heart"]]</ref>

Self-contradictory as ever, though, Chris's disregard of many laws does not stop him from rigidly observing others, often with completely skewed priority: In [[Sonichu Special 4]], his cartoon avatar makes a point of obeying the speed limit – while on his way to confront [[Liquid Chris]] and assault him with a [[Megatron pistol|deadly weapon]]. In a [[May 2010]] video, Chris states that he believes a man who brutally beat his girlfriend to death with his bare hands deserved twenty years in prison for his crimes, which is just twice the penalty he wants for [[Tobacky|smoking one cigarette]].<ref>[[05142010]]</ref>

Also, Chris has very little respect for those who enforce the law:

{{quote|Verbal Combat had started, and during the fight, I ran off, still giving verbal punishment, as well as da finger, and many “[[Curse-Ye-Ha-Me-Ha]]s.” I nearly backed up onto him with my car, and I gave him another finger. Then I dashed off.|Excerpt from Chris's [[CWC's Diary|diary]]}}

The above quote pretty much defines Chris's attitude towards law enforcement officials. He feels that it is completely appropriate to flip off, insult, and [[List of Chris's lies|lie]] to people who are simply doing their jobs. And, of course, as any rational person would understand, running away from law enforcement officials is a seriously bad idea. Chris is truly a rebel without a cause (or effect).

The correspondence with Jackie revealed that in the hearings on the Target incident, Chris thought that his work with the [[The GAMe PLACe#Chris the TCG gamer|Pokémon TCG League]] let him off the hook.<ref>[[Jackie e-mails Part 2#Chris lies about The Game Place]]</ref> In reality, the court probably acquitted him either on a technicality or insufficient evidence. Chris probably mentioned the volunteer work because he believed a person's merits, no matter how unrelated, would automatically make one innocent of all charges. It is also telling that he recounted the charge as "Soliciting", whereas the actual charge was "Disorderly Conduct"; he feels that he was only persecuted because of his [[Love Quest]] efforts, and not because he was tard raging.

Of interesting note, is that contrary to Chris's [[Women's rights|general]] [[Homos|political]] [[Niggos|views]], he seems to be in favor – or at least accepting – of gun control legislation.<ref>[[A Public Announcement for Congress]]</ref> Whether or not he has a firm understanding of what he's saying, we'll likely never know.

Interestingly, Chris seems to have a ''very'' skewed view of the idea of "self-defense", which is exemplified with the acquisition of pepper spray. Pepper spray, like most defensive weapons, should be used as a last resort, to keep people from attacking you. As seen with the [[26 December 2014|GameStop attacks]], Chris uses it as a means to keep anyone he doesn't like away. Using that event as an example, the man he sprayed wasn't even near him and Chris decided to spray a quick spritz on his chest without any provocation. It got worse when, days later, he began a commotion in a [[Walmart]] using the device. To Chris, it's the ultimate troll and [[jerkop]] deterrent, when in actuality, he's waving around assault charges on a stick.

==Timeline==
The following is a list of incidents Chris has had with the law. This list may not be complete; in a telephone conversation with [[Ivy]] in 2009, [[Bob]] told her that Chris had in the past six or seven incidents with the law,<ref>[[Ivy Q&A#The end]]</ref> and yet this article lists only three incidents that precede 2010.

===2004===
On 11 September [[2004]], Chris was detained at [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]] for loitering, and continually arguing with the staff over several months. The incident is depicted in [[Sub-Episode 1]]. Chris was banned from returning to the mall on his own and without his parents' company. However, it appears that this ban was lifted or ignored soon afterward.

===2005===
On 20 July [[2005]], Chris was charged with disorderly conduct<ref name="2005 Disorderly Conduct">[[:File:20050720-GC05009339-00.png|Disorderly conduct charge, 20 July 2005]]</ref> and trespassing<ref name="2005 Trespassing">[[:File:20050720-GC05009340-00.png|Trespassing charge, 20 July 2005]]</ref> at Target, as depicted in [[Sub-Episode 7]] and [[Sub-Episode 8]]. After 2 hearings,<ref name="2005 Disorderly Conduct" /><ref name="2005 Trespassing" /> prosecutors chose to drop the case and Chris was not punished.

5 days later, Chris caused an auto accident when he followed another car too closely and rear-ended it. This went to court on 12 September 2005.<ref name="2005 Following Too Close">[[:File:20050728-GT05011195-00.png|Following too close, 28 July 2005]]</ref> He was fined $30 and had to pay $56 in court costs.

===2010===
Chris's various run-ins at [[The GAMe PLACe]] have resulted in the cops being called on him a couple of times. At least once after Chris called in his parents after he was initially banned from the location and tried to weasel his way back in, and again when he trespassed on the property, though he wasn't charged with anything on either occasion.<ref>[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]</ref>

On 4 [[June 2010]], Chris made yet another pilgrimage to The GAMe PLACe. Chris was armed with his camera, and while Mike was concerned that Chris wanted pictures of his daughter for [[Mass debating|disturbing reasons]], Chris maintains that he merely wanted a picture of Mike [[Death threats|for use as]] [[CWC is Angry|a dartboard]] – still disturbing, but in entirely different ways. Chris was caught in the parking lot despite trying to run away and was questioned by the police, who made him delete the pictures he had taken and told him to quit his shit. Chris made his [[6 June 2010]] video in response to these events.

===2011===
In a [[May 2011]] [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]] post, Chris said that he has begun to use the ladies' restroom at his local mall while dressed in drag; he recounts an incident in which ''"a woman complains and tattles on me, and a [[JERK|stereotypical Brute male]] shouts me out. I felt embarassed. [sic] When in skirt, I am still gonna go to the Ladies, because there is no goin' back for me."'' This supposed brute male may or may not have been with mall security.

In his [[Calling Out|3 new videos]] posted after an 8-month-long hiatus from YouTube he tries to do something which some viewers of ''The Chandler Show'' believe to be blackmail. Chris admitted it by typing word ''blackmail'' in tags for last of them; however, trolls hoping for a lawsuit [[saga]] shouldn't get their hopes up, because it's unlikely any of the trolls threatened by it would want to report him, given that they've all been trying to get him back onto the internet for months and wouldn't want to drive him off again. Not to mention Chris probably doesn't have anything on them at all. Note that under Virginia law, his demands are more likely to be considered extortion (still a class five felony) rather than blackmail.

In the same video, Chris also point-blank accused Mike of molesting his daughter, all while admitting that he doesn't have any concrete proof of his allegation. Given how prone he is to accuse others of slandering him (like pointing out his bad qualities that are extremely evident to everyone but Chris), Chris's accusations are very hypocritical. If Mike did want to sue Chris in civil court, he would indeed have a case against him as Chris's allegations are textbook defamation. However, it's questionable what Snyder would win in litigation, aside from a [[PlayStation 3]] and numerous children's [[toys]].

On [[28 October 2011]], Chris ended up in the worst possible scenario, netting a felony charge and 2 misdemeanors in what appears to be a ''3rd'' attempt to enter the GAMe PLACe, although all charges were reduced to misdemeanors upon sentencing.

As a direct result of his 28 October 2011 run-in with Michael Snyder, Chris had found both himself and [[Barb|his mother]] on the receiving end of a civil suit. Having been sentenced to community service and put under probation, and being charged with paying Snyder's medical bills, this may very well have been the first time that he has felt ramifications for his accusations and threats. However, it is much more likely that he simply [[Chris and his Ego|doesn't care]] or still feels as if he were the [[Kick the Autistic|real victim]] in all of this.

===2012===
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On 4 [[February 2012]], it was revealed on his [[Facebook]] that Chris no longer has respect for ''any'' sort of law enforcement after the events of 28 October 2011, officially deeming everyone who upholds the law a Jerkop. At the same time, he revealed another encounter with the boys in blue that day. As he attempted to pass out fliers while at the mall, encouraging others to stay away from the GAMe PLACe, two Jerkops (or as Chris puts it, "a Jerkop and an accomplice") approached him. Despite the officers simply wanting to talk to him and letting him know he wasn't in any trouble, Chris's paranoia kicked in and he ran. While the story Chris gives seems to hint that the officers just wanted to tell him to knock off the distribution of fliers, Chris believed otherwise, citing that one of them called out his name and making him think they wanted to post another encounter with him on the Internet. He escaped by diving into a Mitsubishi, most likely replacing the dying piece of scrap that is [[Son-Chu]], and driving off.

On 12 [[April 2012]], Chris [[Virgin with rage#No longer a virgin (No word on the rage)|announced the loss of his virginity]], giving off strong hints that he had slept with a hired prostitute. He all but [[Facebook#Hey.2C_Trollies|confirmed this]] on 1 May, when he said that he "found her on the backpage", most likely meaning that he found it on the website Backpage.com, a Craiglist clone shut down by the FBI that also solicited prostitutes – Chris's prostitute was codenamed [[Mia Hamm]], as seen on the website. In the state of Virginia, this constitutes a Class 1 Misdemeanor and is therefore illegal. It is unknown whether or not Chris is aware of this, but it's very likely that if he is, he simply doesn't care.

On 28 April 2012, Chris revealed another incident in the mall. Before his Facebook note on 30 [[March 2012]], Chris got into a shouting match with a troll on his cell phone at the mall. The shouting did not go unnoticed, and Chris bolted once security was called in. On 25 April, Chris received a ban from the mall,<ref>[[Facebook#Maniacal Laughter from Who now? Oh, wait, It Is ME! >8D]]</ref> though it is unknown if it was for that incident or an incident that happened between those two dates.

On 10 [[July 2012]], Chris was arraigned in court for the 28 October 2011 incident. After calling Snyder a "thieving liar" in the courtroom, Chris was sentenced to community service and put under one-year probation. He was also ordered to pay Snyder's medical bills.

===2013===
In September 2013, Chris committed an act of vandalism (an arrestable offense) by defacing a [[HEXbox]] One display at a Walmart but got off easy by merely just being banned from the store. Given his furious reaction to this and his track record with a certain store owner who also did the same, it remains to be seen if Chris would follow up on his threat to have his revenge. Also, much like his tantrum at the [[Fashion Square Mall]] in 2005, Chris was confronted by a jerkop at a local restaurant after scratching a woman's car with his, and screaming out loud in public. Chris claimed he was [[Chris and religion|cursing God for all his misfortune recently]].

===2014===
On 29 [[March 2014]], a report surfaced on the [[CWCki Forums]] saying that earlier that month Chris has been spotted trying to steal merchandise from [[Best Buy]]. The next day Chris denied the truthfulness of the report, but [[Kim]] confirmed that the attempted shoplifting had indeed occurred.<ref>[[March 2014 Facebook Posts#Rumour]]</ref>

On Friday, [[26 December 2014]], Chris vandalized a Sonic Boom display in GameStop in the [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]] and was forced out due to a previous ban, but not before he attacked a staff member with pepper spray who was calling security. By the 28th, he was confirmed to be in jail. He was released on bail on Monday, 29 December.

===2015===
Throughout most of 2015, Chris behaved himself, presumably because his sojourn to the jailhouse was fresh in his memory. His punishment for the pepper spray incident was eventually decided (after '''seven''' hearings) in October – a very light sentence of a three-figure fine and a six-month prison sentence that he won't have to serve unless he breaks the law again during probation.

===2016===
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File:Dogcourtcase2.png|Chris fined – No county dog tag 2
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On July 1 of this year, Chris finally paid his $541.00 fine from his 2014/2015 court hearing. His probation also appears to have ended earlier in the year in April.

In August, Chris was fined $121 by Greene County for two charges, each misdemeanors, of failing to acquire dog tag and rabies licenses for his and [[Barbara]]'s dogs, [[Clover and Snoopy]].

In November, Chris made several death threats against President [[Pmurt|Trump]]. He is blissfully unaware that threatening the President or President-elect is one of the few restrictions on freedom of speech in America, and could land Chris with a fine and/or up to five years in prison.

===2018===
{{see also|March 2018 trespass charge}}
{{quote|The manager of [[Charlottesville Fashion Square|the mall]] threw a damned, Late Trespassing notice against me while I was there a few weeks ago. That is all; caught me in a trap like at the [[The GAMe PLACe|PLace]], except I didn't go to freaking jail, okay?|Chris<ref>https://archive.md/recKB</ref>}}

[[File:DocketComplete.png|thumb|Charlottesville takes over the case for the Therapeutic Docket.]]

In March, Chris was charged with Trespass after Forbidden,<ref>[[:File:Christine Chandler Trespass After Forbidden charge, 23 March 2018.png]]</ref> a misdemeanor count. The offense occurred on 23 March and was filed under the Albemarle Traffic/Criminal Court.

Chris repeatedly signed his name as "[[Chris Chan Sonichu]]" on court documents, despite it not being his legal name, though no action was taken by court staff on the matter.<ref>https://archive.md/aZ2DC</ref>

Chris was represented by a public defender. After several continuances, the court decided to direct Chris to a court-diversion program, the [[Therapeutic Docket]], for nine months as an alternative to a jail sentence. The trespass case was transferred to Charlottesville's jurisdiction on 10 July to supervise the Docket check-ins, until Chris graduated from the Docket on 23 April 2019, resulting in the court dismissing his trespass charge.

===2019===
23 April saw the early end of Chris's [[Therapeutic Docket]] and the dismissal of his Trespassing after Forbidden charge.

Chris [[Trolls#Chris the troll|trolled himself]] again on 5 August, when he absent-mindedly hit someone else's vehicle with [[Son-Chu]]. [[Jerkops|Police]] soon came to him and his mother about it; [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] was more involved with the situation at hand, while Chris soothed himself by kicking the police car several times before the police left. Fortunately for Chris, he was not penalized.<ref name=kick></ref>

===2021===
{{Needs Updating|Needs citations}}
{{main|Affair with Mother|Jail Saga}}

{{quote|he said he was dating this girl for months,m this 72 year old lady [...] he said he wanted to confess something to me and i suspected it bc he said it was illegal|[[Bella]] on Chris telling her about [[Affair with Mother|his incestuous relationship with his mother]].<ref>[[Chess Club Chats#Bella Reacts to Incest Call]]</ref>}}

[[File:2021 Chris Chan mugshot.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris's mugshot for his incest charge, Henrico County Sheriff's Office.]]

[[File:2021 Chris Chan mugshot 2.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris's second mugshot on 2 August when transferred to Central Virginia Regional Jail.]]

One of the darkest events in Christory happened in 2021, which came close to spelling the end of the tale of Chris-Chan as we knew it.
A series of events so controversial and massive, that they caused this very wiki to crash due to the event persistently trending on [[Twitter]] (amusingly even overtaking the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Summer_Olympics Olympic Games] for a time).

On 29 [[July 2021]], the [[Incest Call]], where he had casually admitted to repeatedly having sex with [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] since late June, was leaked. Chris also indicated that Barb was confused, telling him to stop at times, raising the possibility of it being [[Chris and sex#Rape|non-consensual]], especially since some have speculated that Barb may be suffering from dementia. Bella played along for several minutes, pretending to approve of Chris's new habit so she could record more information.

After hundreds of people contacted the police as a result of the leaks, authorities conducted a [[welfare check]] on Barb and issued an Emergency Protective Order on Chris on the following day, essentially a temporary restraining order that would last around a week, prohibiting access to Barbara and [[14 Branchland Court|his home]] until 5 August 2021. (Chris's neighbors took care of their pets after both Chandlers were taken from their home.){{cite}}

Made temporarily homeless by this turn of events, Chris decided to make matters even worse for himself by committing yet another crime; he stole $750 from Barbara's bank account to pay for hotel accommodations (and alleviate ''his negative bank balance'' at the time),{{cite}} which left him about $550 after the latter fact, before shelling out $384 for the hotel and wasting most of the remaining money on toys ([[Chris and Money|because ''of course'' he fucking did]]),{{cite}} leaving him with next to nothing yet again ($1.03 according to a Bank of America alert).<ref>[[:File:BoA alert 1 Aug 2021.png]]</ref> This crime, however, would land Chris in much hotter water than the many other times he stole from his parents: after discovering what Chris had done and being lied to about it during the confrontation, Null immediately cut ties and washed his hands of Chris,{{cite}} and proceeded to shut down the GoFundMe page intended to aid him on his planned trip to [[Everfree Northwest]] ([[List of places that have banned Chris|who banned him from entry after learning about the news]]), and refunding everyone involved.{{cite}} It should be noted that Chris had intended to use some of the funds to pay back his mother once they cleared,{{cite}} but, as stated before, he took the funds without permission and in violation of the Protective Order, which is, at the very least, a strong case for a theft charge to be laid on him later.

Chris's [[Patreon]], due to the scandal, also came under review,{{cite}} leaving many to speculate that it would most likely see deletion on top of his long-term [[Chris and negligence|neglect]] of the page and his subscribers. Sure enough, on 2 August 2021, his account was suspended, pending review - which remains until the creator logs back in.{{cite}} However, considering Chris' incarceration, it is unlikely he will be able to do so, ensuring that his account will permanently remain "under review".

Oddly enough ([[Chris and reality|or perhaps due to his enhanced delusions]]), Chris remained in seemingly good spirits during his arrest.
Despite this arrest being far more major than anything else he has previously been charged for and potentially ruining his life, Chris did not resist arrest and even disturbingly stated that being frisked by one of the [[Jerkops|officers]] [[Homos|felt good]] before being taken away.{{cite}} He also noted that the [[Dimensional Merge]] was in the process of happening, which is likely why he believed that he could weasel his way out of this somehow.{{cite}}

Chris's case was initially up for review on 8 [[August 2023]].<ref>[[:File:Court Record - Greene Circuit Court - Incest - (Chris, CR22000141-00) - 7 March 2023.png]]</ref> He was [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arraignment arraigned] on 5 August 2021 and held without bond pending a mental health evaluation until 16 September, likely making matters worse by interrupting the court proceedings to beg for his toys.{{cite}} The hearing for 16 September was continued to 18 November, apparently for more time to evaluate Chris.{{cite}} During this time, he was held at the Central Virginia Regional Jail. Another continuance was then granted, with the next hearing taking place on 3 [[February 2022]].<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (other users)#Incest Case November '21 Continuance]]</ref> Another continuance was granted to 28 [[July 2022]],{{cite}} however, Chris was [[Jail Saga#transfer|transferred]] to [[Western State Hospital]] on 28 [[February 2022]],{{cite}} for treatment of incompetency, then was returned to the jail.

===2023===
On 27 [[March 2023]], Chris was released from jail.<ref>[[:File:VineLink Out of Custody 27 March 2023 - 1 49 pm update.png]]</ref> For several months, his whereabouts were unknown.

On 25 [[August 2023]], Chris's case was dismissed by the court.<ref>[[:File:Court Record - Greene Circuit Court - Incest - (Chris, CR22000141-00) - 25 August 2023.png]]</ref>

During Chris's livestream on [[The Return of Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu Prime|26 October 2023]], he became visibly nervous when sirens unexpectedly sounded in the background, indicating that he harbors a lingering fear of being arrested again.

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==Chris's parents and the law==
It's not hard to figure out why Chris thinks the law should serve him and him alone. His parents, too, have the same problem:

* When Chris was thrown out of the [[Wikipedia:Cub Scouting (Boy Scouts of America)|Cub Scouts]] after an [[autism|unknown incident]], his parents attempted to sue the [[Wikipedia:Boy Scouts of America|Boy Scouts of America]] for [[Kick the Autistic|discrimination]].<ref>[[Mailbag 18]]</ref>
* When Chris threw a tantrum that required him to be restrained, Bob attempted to ''sue the school for restraining him''.<ref>[[Nathanael Greene Elementary School#The_aftermath]]</ref>
* When Barb and Bob had their absurd case against Greene County used against them, their first reaction was to run to another county.<ref>[[Greene County Conspiracy]]</ref>
* [[Bob]] claims that a man in [[Richmond]] by the name of Jamie Dunn tried to get him thrown in jail circa [[1999]] for unknown reasons.<ref>[[Ivy Q&A#The End]]</ref> This may be part of the reason the Chandlers decided to move back to [[Ruckersville]] in [[2000]].
* When [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] took a picture of Chris and uploaded it to the Internet, Chris's parents threatened them with legal action (but as usual never followed through).
* When [[Snorlax]] thought she had indigestion, she acted like she was going to sue the Chinese establishment the food came from. When it turned out to be [[Wikipedia:colitis|colitis]], she dropped the subject.
* When [[Asperchu|Alec]] called the Chandler household posing as [[The GAMe PLACe]] employee Matthew Noble, Bob and Barb claimed that taking pictures of somebody without their knowledge or consent was "not illegal". This came after threatening to sue Mimms and Lucas for doing exactly that.<ref name="Matthew Noble call">[[Matthew Noble call]]</ref>
* During that same call, Bob will not countenance the idea that an individual can be prohibited from private property, saying, "it's a business place," which has no bearing on private property laws.<ref name="Matthew Noble call"/>
* On 28 October 2011, Barb was arrested for not only fleeing the scene of an accident but also felony assault on a police officer, an extremely foolish crime that a remotely sensible person would never commit due to the serious consequences attached to it (mandatory minimum of six months' imprisonment on conviction); however, the recent death of her husband, her age, her bad health and her hopeless, dependent clod of a son seem to have helped elicit her some clemency.
*On 10 [[July 2012]], Barb was arraigned in court for her participation in the 28 October 2011 incident. She was sentenced to community service and served two-year probation.
*On 2 [[August 2021]], Chris was charged with incest with Barb. He was not charged with rape, meaning that Barb may have consented to the acts or simply did not want to pursue rape charges against her own son.
*On 23 [[November 2021]], Barb totaled her [[Son-Chu#Barb's Dodge Caravan|van]] when she failed to yield right-of way and got in a accident with a tractor trailer. Barb paid a $30 fine and $76 in court costs the following month.<ref>[[:File:Barbara Chandler Fail to Yield Right-of-Way charge.png]]</ref>
*According to [[Jail Letter - 4 July 2022]], Chris has been attempting to blackmail Barb into moving out of [[14 Branchland Court]] with various crimes he claims she is guilty of. These include negligence towards her pets, abusive behavior towards Chris and her use of Chris's [[monthly tugboat]] for herself. Obviously, it is unknown if Barb is really guilty of any of these things.

==Chris's ORIGINAL and OFFICIAL laws==
[[Image:AL cover.gif|thumb|Where Chris's ORIGINAL and OFFICIAL laws come from.]]
Chris believes the police in real life are corrupt, and sees them in the same light as he sees the Jerkops in his comic – the Jerkops act as a stand-in for police who wronged him, and are portrayed as being impostors with no legal authority (probably indicating that Chris does not recognize real policemen as legitimate authority). In light of these things, Chris has his spin on the law. The penalties for [[Alcohol|drinking]], smoking and internet harassment involve physical violence, including a "Kick in the Teeth", which Chris inexplicably portrays as a punch in the first and only of his supposed series of Q&A videos.<ref>[[Chris Chan Q&A 27 October 2008]]</ref>

On 31 [[December 2009]], Chris orated about a law he wanted to be made to prevent [[Jack Thaddeus]] from using the ad space he paid for:

{{quote|I Have The Instinct, and I Have Already [[CWC-ism|Snail-Mailed]] President Barack Obama on how this sort of bad advertisement is going on and how it is Wrong and should be made Illegal. On HOW if the Main Captain does not WANT or IS OFFENDED with the listed Ads within his own Website or Works, REGARDLESS of who controls the AdSpace, WOULD REMOVE THOSE ADS or face JAILTIME. And the F.B.I. would be FULLY INVOLVED in all this, and THEY have the Power, Tools and Balls to seek, hunt down and bring in the Individual Internet Trolls and Ad-Spammers.|Chris<ref>[[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence#THAT DOES NOT MATTER (CCS)]]</ref>}}

As one can see, Chris is seeking the direct intervention of the president of his country and beseeching him to [[Chris and reality|outlaw advertisements he doesn't like.]] Aside from the fact that Obama himself couldn't have done anything about this, the fact is that Chris was mandated by law to display the ads Jack paid to display. Chris should have written to his congressman about this rather than the president, but either way, he would have received no response.

This attitude is also reflected in his relationship with [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. [[2003|More than a decade ago]], she put a stop to Chris [[Love Quest#Conflicts with Mary Lee Walsh|soliciting sex]] on her campus. [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|War ensued]] and Chris received a well-deserved [[Autism papers|time-out]] for [[Chris and anger|his behaviour]]. Six years later, in [[2009]], Chris decided it was time to make peace. He went to her office and left her a [[:File:Apology to Mary Lee.jpg|"Framed Hand-Drawn Apology"]] on her doorstep out of the blue.<ref>[[One Blessing, and One Curse]]</ref> Her reaction was to file a trespassing notice. Chris disastrously believed that since he didn't read the letter and returned it to the sender, he wasn't liable for it.<ref>[[Mailbag 26]]</ref> Thankfully, Chris didn't trespass again.

[[Mailbag 55]] posits a few more original laws: one, that it should be illegal for [[JERKS|men]] to ever show their [[Reldnahc|bare chest]] (because, according to Chris, no one in the entire world ever wants to see a man's bare chest, presumably disregarding [[women]], [[Homos|gay men]] and boxing enthusiasts), and two, he wants to [[Women's rights|force all women]] in any kind of relationship to wear rings (purely for his benefit of course), thus defeating all symbolism and significance of them.

In the aftermath of distancing himself from the Internet, Chris began to formulate a new law, the "Bill for Anti Online Bad-Mouthing," starting with his second [[Flipnote Hatena|Flipnote]], [[Don'tGetTrolled!]]. The details are unknown, but Chris essentially wants to make so that online, nobody can ever speak negatively of anybody else under threat of prosecution. There do exist laws against cyber-crime and online harassment but these laws vary by country (and concern rather more serious deeds than drawing [[Rosechu]] with a dick), and so even if Chris's law were somehow implemented federally, only his fellow USA residents would be held accountable. Chris is failing to comprehend that people besides Americans use the internet, or worse, assuming the entire world can be held to the USA's laws.

==In CWCville==
During the [[Idea Guys]] saga, Chris was told that [[Jamsta]] Sonichu had been put on trial for molesting [[Punchy]]. Chris didn't want Jamsta to suffer in jail as he had, so he tried using his psychic powers to talk to the [[CWCville]] judge to convince him to release Jamsta, regardless of the crime he had committed. The Idea Guys informed him that the judge was unconvinced since Chris was no longer mayor, so Chris then turned his attention to the jurors. This worked but sparked a city-wide riot.<ref>[[Idea Guy Q&A]]</ref>

==In the comic==
[[File:0862-Cwcville11.JPG|right|thumb|[[CWCville]] used to have a police station, but no more.]]
The law, such as it is, in the comics is a horrifying totalitarianism where anybody anywhere is subject to the whims of a dictator. In CWCville, Chris is "mayor" (read: god-king) and has banned many things in his city. Smoking or drinking alcohol would lead one to be either sentenced to ten years in prison or a US$1,500 fine (which Chris [[Chris and money|considers an equally bad punishment]]). CWCville has its own currency (despite being nothing more than a small city) and why fines are levied in USD is unknown.<ref name="Chris Chan Q&A 27 October 2008">[[Chris Chan Q&A 27 October 2008]]</ref> Importing tobacco or alcohol incurs a greater punishment than murder or rape.<ref name="Chris Chan Q&A 27 October 2008"/> However, it should be noted that Chris [[Rollin' and Trollin'|repealed the law against alcohol]] in [[June 2009]].

The Rosechus often congregate to "protest" for [[women's rights]]. These protests usually involve nudity and/or pornography. They campaign for basic, archaic things like eligibility to vote, suggesting Chris (or one of his predecessors) has imposed discriminating laws against women in CWCville.

It is never clear whether or not CWCville is legally a part of the United States (and thus subject to its federal laws), as Chris characteristically sends mixed messages a lot – some things are distinctly American (the aforementioned USD fines, for instance. However there are {{w|Ecuador|foreign}} {{w|Zimbabwe|countries}} in the real world that use USD.), but CWCville has its currency and its own set of "laws", the likes of which would never be permitted in a developed or even undeveloped country, even if CWCville were some sort of Vatican-like sovereign state. The only arrangement that makes even the slightest amount of sense is that CWCville is just that – a sovereign state on US soil. Chris doesn't seem to have thought this out though and believes the mayor of a town is legally entitled to act as an authoritarian dictator.

As a mayor, Chris does nothing bureaucratic, ever, and makes [[Allison Amber|his secretary]] do all the paperwork (as per his thoughts on women) while he goes off on another one of his sweetheart searches. He has mandated "[[dating education|Dating Education]]" classes for students so that they can learn to go on dates, as well as how to "stay straight".

[[List of Sonichu characters#Constables Gerald Grant and Louis Perez|Actual police officers]] did not appear until [[Sonichu 10|quite late]] in the series and even then, they did nothing whatsoever, giving the impression that Chris and his [[Pokémon]] abominations are the only thing standing between peace and violent anarchy. However, [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]] seems to reveal that there are three sets of "other" protectors: a (possibly) nondescript police force (distinct from [[Mary Lee Walsh]]'s [[jerkops]]), as well as his team of [[Power Rangers]] and a team of [[Transformers]].

{{quote|Is CWCville under Martial Law?|[[Jack Thaddeus]] citing the truth as he sees it}}

In conversation with [[Jack Thaddeus]], Chris revealed that CWCville is the home of a paramilitary force equipped with tanks which he uses as a "Police Force", and all his [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] enjoy immunity from prosecution and are above the law.<ref>[[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 3]]</ref> Add this to the fact that Chris cannot be deposed as mayor ("there [[Chris and English|is]] no elections") and the fact that the police and a fleet of superpowered goons obey anything Chris demands of them, and it paints a very frightening picture. According to Chris, [[Magi-Chan]] mentally scans the city perimeters for any sexual acts, and reports any [[homos|homosexual]] activity to the authorities. The participants are then "tried and fined HEAVILY; $500 or 50 Hours of Community Service".<ref>[[Mailbag 31#Magi-Chan knows when you fuck]]</ref> Apparently in CWCville, the [[Wikipedia:Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution|Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution]] does not apply in matters of personal sexual choice, and neither does the [[wikipedia:Lawrence v. Texas|U.S. Supreme Court ruling]] finding sodomy laws to be unconstitutional.

Even though Chris's deranged laws exist only within his city-state-country-whatever of CWCville, he exacts his deranged fury unto people whether they're actually in his jurisdiction or not. [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu #10'']] shows four distinct crimes committed outside of CWCville: the destruction of the [[4-cent garbage]] building, the murder of over one hundred alleged "trolls" in said destruction, breaking and entering, and destroying Internet files and property. There was no evidence to suggest that this act of mass murder was even investigated by the authorities, and the comic portrays this act of [[Twin Falling Towers|terrorism]] as Chris and his goons heroically defeating a gang of criminals.

Chris may be able to murder without being reprimanded, but of course, this doesn't apply to everyone. Following the death of [[Simonla]], the culprits ([[Alec]], [[Mao]], [[Sean]] and [[Evan]]) are subjected to a show trial, and given no defense attorney by the state (violating the [[Wikipedia:Sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution|Sixth Amendment]]) forcing Sean to act as their lawyer despite being [[Tobacky|high as a kite]]. There is no solid evidence presented for the murder charge, aside from the Voltorb remote (which the prosecutor never tried to prove belonged to them) and wholly unreliable "psychic evidence" extracted by Magi-Chan. When they're railroaded and found guilty, they're ''killed by the people they've wronged'' (read: murdered brutally by cartoon characters), in a gross violation of the [[Wikipedia:Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution|Eighth Amendment]] forbidding cruel and unusual punishment.

Demonstrating Chris's limited understanding of trials (as his knowledge of trials stems purely from television), the kangaroo court integrates both elements of civil and criminal trials. The Asperpedia Four are not only prosecuted for murder by a [[Marvey Blaziken|state attorney]], as per a criminal trial, but also charged with defamation of character, libel, and copyright infringement (as well as several charges such as "profanity to the max" that would hold no water in an actual court) by Chris and his cohorts, as per a civil trial. Surely enough, Chris, Sonichu, and Rosechu are sitting in a benchmarked "PLAINTIF" [sic]. That both civil and criminal charges are included in one trial not only demonstrates a poor understanding of the courtroom process but is further proof that Chris considers "slanderous mockeries" and other torts on par with major crimes such as murder and assault. To add to the equation, one cannot be given a death sentence (or any sentence, for that matter) for being guilty in a civil trial, but in the Asperpedia Four trial, civil charges are the primary reason for the death sentence. In summary, the CWCville court system is a constitutional nightmare that violates multiple articles and amendments and has no concept of due process. One must wonder why it is allowed to exist within the borders of the U.S.

Were it not obvious by now, any semblance of law in CWCville exists solely to further the wishes of its tyrannical (and murderous) creator god.

==Fan video==
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==See also==
*[[Chris and copyright]]
*[[Debt]]
*[[Jerkop]]
*[[Manajerks]]
*[[Parody]]
*[[Therapeutic Docket]]

== References ==
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Praetor

2024-01-06T21:58:07Z

Necromaster:

{{Unreliable|type=cred|The members are all infamous attention seekers, and merely got in touch with Chris with the sole intent of piggybacking off his notoriety on the internet.|The members will occasionally say edgy and disgusting things purely for shock value.<ref>[[:File:PraetorTaserBox.jpg]]</ref>}}
{{quote|Our goal is not just to be screwing with Christine. Our goal here is just to make cash with her, as a partnership - right?|Caden Peck<ref>[[Taser Discussion]]</ref>}}
{{quote| And don't you judge Caden in that vain. He's not flawless, but he is more Perfect of himself and at what and how he does as a legit Friend and in working on my behalf; He actually works well with his flaws and limits, and he's made breakthrough with Barb, and he is not intimidating.|Chris<ref>[[Jail Letter - 29 July 2022]]</ref>}}
[[File:PraetorLogo.jpg|400px|thumb|Praetor's logo]]
{{Infobox Person
|image = Cadenimagehighquality.png
|title = Caden Peck
|name = Caden Michael Peck
|gender = Male
|day = 17
|month = 9
|year = 2002
|aliases = Praetor tinyhorse01
|race = White
|nationality = [[American]]
|occupation = Owner of Praetor LLC Owner of [[OfficialCWCmart]] Illegal Drug Manufacturer Student at Northwest Missouri State University<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-17231390</ref>
|saga = {{saga|watchmen|cn}}, {{saga|praetor|cn}}, {{saga|jail|cn}}, '''[[Template:RevelationsSaga|Revelations]]'''
}}

'''Praetor LLC''' (sometimes referred to as "'''The Praetors'''") is a group of edgy Gen-Z businesspeople led by '''Caden Michael Peck''' (born 27 September [[2002]]), also known as '''tinyhorse01''', a 21-year old man who owns multiple LLCs and was recently charged with three felonies for illegally producing psilocybin mushrooms.

They first came into contact with Chris to produce and sell ''Sonichu'' and CWC themed products on their [[Etsy]] store [[OfficialCWCmart]], with Chris's permission, giving him a cut of the profits in exchange. In mid-December 2020, Praetor began offering Sonichu medallions for sale, which were produced by the group and approved of by Chris. Praetor has since expanded to other, more bizarre, products, some produced by the group, and others by Chris. Chris's income split for products made by him is unknown. As of [[2023]], OfficialCWCmart has generated more than 3000 sales, giving them a minimum of between $49,905 and $116,000 in revenue, although their actual revenue is unknown but potentially higher.<ref>Of 3327 sales. Their lowest-priced item is $15, and a popular medallion item is $35. Several items such as art generally sold for $200 each</ref>

During the [[Jail Saga]], Chris continued communicating with them, mailing them art from jail, which they added to [[OfficialCWCmart]].

Upon Chris's being released from jail, they have become even more involved, as seen in the highly edited new videos which all promote [[OfficialCWCmart]]. In [[November 2023]], evidence hinting at Chris living at a house which Caden bought - or at the very least using that house as a studio - emerged on [[Kiwi Farms]].

==Minor Members==
[[File:Praetor_Instagram_tags_copy-min.png|350px|thumb|From left to right, Annie Ikenberry, most likely Cabell, Caden Peck, and Chris. Not pictured is Owen Sundstrom, the only other known member of Praetor at the time.]]
{{Quote|In the group, Annie is very much psychically able. Owen is like the magician of the group; among his skill set, he can also make a variety of special teas and such that can be like potions and elixirs. Cabell is also psychically inclined, but she's the artist. Caden is very open-minded, and the brains and business.|Chris<ref name=naughtdms>[[Naught DMs#Praetor]]</ref>}}

While Caden is the leader of Praetor and presumably does most of the heavy lifting, there have been numerous other people involved in the group, possibly more. Since Chris's arrest in 2021, it is unknown if any of the members besides Caden are still involved with the Praetor brand, though the only one confirmed to not be a part of the brand is Owen Sundstrom, who claimed he was kicked out after trying to stop Chris from being exploited.

Recently, there has been theorization that [[Flutter]] is a member of Praetor, however this has not been confirmed.

===Annibelle Ikenberry===
'''Annibelle "Annie" Ikenberry''' ('''annirenee''') is an erocosplayer and OnlyFans camgirl. In [[Taser Discussion]], Caden implies that her OnlyFans was one of Praetor's business ventures, and that she had created it to make money for Praetor. According to Chris, she is "psychically able." In a 17 [[February 2021]] discussion with the [[Watchmen]], Chris confessed that he had considered her for a possible relationship.<ref>[[Lonely feelings]]</ref>

===Owen Sundstrom===
'''Owen Scott Sundstrom''' ('''owen_sundstrom''') is a co-founder of Praetor. He was present at the [[Goochland Library Sermon]], where he was photographed posing with Chris. He also appears to be the photographer who took the picture of Chris and Praetor at the Chinese restaurant. According to Chris, Owen is "like the magician of the group; among his skill set, he can also make a variety of special teas and such that can be like potions and elixirs." Owen, along with Caden, suggested a link between the Mayan calendar and Chris's [[The Place chats - Lore Mashup|dream about a golden disc]].<ref name=naughtdms></ref>

In [[June 2021]], a Christorian left a comment on Owen's [[Instagram]], writing<ref name=oweninsta>[[:File:OwenInsta.png]]</ref>:

{{quotebox|Can’t believe such a pretty face could be such a scummy person. Trying to convince an autistic man to tease himself while simultaneously making thousands of dollars by using said autistic man’s internet notoriety}}

Owen responded to this:

{{quoteboxred|🤣 awe u think I’m pretty? Also that wasn’t me,, I tried to give Chris as much money as I could,, but I was cut outta preator,, I only got 10% even tho is was a partnership, and I was in Chris’s corner tryna make sure he wasn’t taken advantage of,, however I do regret starting preator,, I was the wizard, not the business man}}

===Cabell O'Malley===
'''Cabell Fitzpatrick O'Malley''' is described by Chris in the [[Naught DMs]] as "psychically inclined, but she's the artist." When the [[Incest Call]] leaked, there was speculation that Cabell was a nickname for [[Bella]]; however, Chris's mention of Cabell in the DMs predates his earliest interaction with Bella. Cabell is most likely the blonde woman featured in the [[Instagram]] photo of Praetor and Chris at a Chinese restaurant. Initially, Praetor mistagged the blonde woman, linking an unrelated account to her.

Given that Chris has referred to Cabell as the artist, it can be assumed that she creates the medallions, as Chris has mentioned that the artist of the group was the one who created them.

===Isabella Loretta Janke===
{{main|Isabella Loretta Janke}}

'''Isabella "Bella" Loretta Janke''', a troll most infamous for her horrid actions and [[Incest Call|revealing Chris's incestuous affair with his mother]], had relations with Praetor. They commissioned her to animate [[Chris Chan Sonichu Intro animation]], an animation of Chris and the Sonichu characters, which Chris uploaded to his YouTube channel. Despite her minimal role in the group, Chris has repeatedly referred to her as a member of Praetor, possibly alluding to more interactions between Bella and Praetor that have not been leaked.

===Golden Church of Sonichu members===
{{main|Golden Church of Sonichu}}

Messages from the [[Discord]] server [[Golden Church of Sonichu]] show that the members were working with Praetor. One member was supposedly making a video game, another was working on CGI for Praetor's [[Chris Kisses Rosechu|Chris Chan movie]], and another was making Chris Chan themed clothes. These members presumably stopped their interactions with Chris once he got arrested.

==Before Chris==
Caden, Annie, Cabell, and Owen all went to the same school, {{w|Goochland High School}}. [[Larry Vaughn]] claims that Praetor was "the brainchild of Caden, and was initially just like the [[Teen Troon Squad]] before they had the idea to make a cult around Christine"<ref name=larryvaughn>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Larry Vaughn)#Info Dump]]</ref><ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-17363984</ref>. [[Larry Vaughn]] referred to Owen Sundstrom as a "co-founder" of Praetor<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/feb-5-2021-chris-wants-to-play-with-taser-to-activate-the-merge.84502/page-15#post-8333293</ref>, which was confirmed in an Instagram messages by Owen, where he states that he regrets "starting preator"<ref name=oweninsta></ref>.

Caden claims that Praetor has been around since [[2017]], working with "creative types."<ref name =q&a>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Praetor_Arrives,_Chris_Writes_his_Sermon,_More_Bible Discussion|Praetor Arrives, Chris Writes his Sermon, More Bible Discussion]]</ref>. If this is true, Caden would have been 14 or 15 years old at the time of Praetor's creation. Caden also claims that they worked with Kevin Baugh, founder of the {{w|Republic of Molossia}} ([[Molvanîa|no relation]]), and wrote a dissertation for him in order to officiate Molossia as a sovereign nation.<ref name=q&a></ref>

Praetor used to have a dedicated website, but was taken down by Caden due to the domain costs. He decided that instead of waiting to have "eccentric people" find him, he would personally reach out to them himself.<ref name=q&a></ref> [[Naught]] once claimed that Praetor went after other lolcows before Chris, including Tommy Tooter, whom they tried to make products for.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/feb-5-2021-chris-wants-to-play-with-taser-to-activate-the-merge.84502/</ref>

==The Beginning==
===Meeting Chris===
[[File:OGGoldenMedallion.jpg|200px|thumb|The golden medallion Praetor gave to Chris]]
[[File:Praetor3.jpg|250px|thumb|Chris in a meeting with Caden]]
{{quote|I've always known about Christine. She always struck me as unique in the sense that she is probably one of the most famous people ever who has profited the least from her fame.
When I heard that she had tried to launch a store before, but been overwhelmed, I knew that there was a chance at profit. I run almost everything I do privately, so I reached out to Christine myself.|Caden<ref name=q&a></ref>}}

On 21 [[September 2020]], a "trio of fans" came to Chris's door with a golden [[Medallion|Sonichu medallion,]] crafted by "the young lady of the group, with paint that had a mixture of 24K gold in it." The "tall boys" had a business proposition for Chris, that with their mold press, they could mass produce and sell Sonichu medallions.<ref name=placeassociates>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#The "New Associates" (and Helena Hate)|The "New Associates" (and Helena Hate)]]</ref> Chris accepted, deeming them as trustworthy, and noted that he had a vision earlier where an artist crafted medallions for him.

{{quote|They have their business based in Goochland.

And I could tell by soul-reading them that their intentions were legit, honest and true.|Chris<ref name=placeassociates></ref>}}

===Introduced to the Watchmen===

On 22 [[September 2020]], Chris made a post on [[The Place]] [[Discord]] server, where he mentioned that he was meeting with some "new associates."<ref name=placeassociates></ref> He mentions that they were going to talk about "the molding to mass produce the medallions, and possibly the figures, with optional Amiibo functions, in a little while." After being asked who these associates were, Chris refused to give their identities but gave details about their first interaction.

On the 25th, Chris mentioned them to the [[Watchmen]] again, revealing their name as Praetor LLC<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Patreon_Troubles,_Chris's_Online_Social_Life,_%22The_Boys,%22_Praetor_LLC_Revealed|Patreon Troubles, Chris's Online Social Life, The Boys, Praetor LLC Revealed]]</ref>. On 3 October, Chris mentioned to them that Praetor was helping him create a "lore bible."<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Lore_Bible_Discussion|Lore Bible Discussion]]</ref>. On the 15th, Praetor's [[Discord]] account, run by Caden Peck, joined the [[The Place]] Discord server, and answered the Watchmen's questions.<ref name =q&a></ref>

{{collapsible|Chat Excerpts|{{quoteboxnavy|We'll initially be only selling Medallions. These act as a trial run, testing market interest. Along the way, we will add more products. These will include but not be limited to comics, cards, and possibly amino figurines.}}
{{quoteboxnavy|It costs about 3 dollars per medallion. We sell them for 25 apiece, as to match our competitors. Etsy brand imposters are selling Medallions for 25-30. To uproot them, we must match or go below their prices.

If business is good, we'll increase sales by discounting them, selling them for 15-20}}
{{quoteboxnavy|In order to emulate Sonichu's original medallion, they are stamped in a mold we made and baked. Then, painted. We mail them from our own company pocket for a while, as it is cheaper then registration with a mailing company. When we get big enough, we can afford to register and get discounted shipping services}}
{{quoteboxnavy|We've not shipped any yet, so we only have estimates. It won't be more then a few dollars.
The medallions are not large not heavy.}}
{{quoteboxnavy|We signed a confidentiality agreement with Sonichu, as we are a company. If Sonichu gives her consent, I can disclose profit splits and profit estimates.}}
{{quoteboxnavy| We've worked with creative types for about 3 years now. You may recognize a few of my more eccentric clients!
Have any of you ever heard of Molossia?}}

After being asked if they sold merch for Molossia:

{{quoteboxnavy|We don't only do merch. We helped him find someone to write a dissertation on the micronation's sovereignty.

He's using that to try and officiate his territory as a nation.

More power to him, I suppose.

What do y'all do? I'm excited to be working with this team.}}
{{quoteboxnavy|I used to have a website, but due to domain costs I took it down. When it comes to clients, I find that it's easier to find eccentric people then to have them find you. If you're interested in partnership or a meeting, I've been transitioning us to social media. We have a new twitter and an Instagram.
Our email is llcpraetor@gmail.com.}}
{{quoteboxnavy|@praetor_llc and the Twitter is @praetor
With social media, I can find my own clientele. Considering that I'm here, seems like things are working out!}}

On another brand named 'Praetor LLC':

{{quoteboxnavy|Oh no, we know about Praetor LLC. They're actually not trademarked, we've talked to them. Their site is a homedone project. The only internationally trademarked Praetor brand is Praetor Technologies.}}
}}

===Introduced to the Public===

On 16 October, they arranged for Chris to give [[Goochland Library Sermon|a sermon at Goochland library]], where he spewed his [[Dimensional Merge]] delusions. This spiel was done in front of a large screen displaying the Praetor logo. When it was eventually released on YouTube, it started with a loud dramatic opening, commissioned from an unknown source. They also added sarcastic captions, mocking Chris. The Praetor members took photos with Chris after the sermon.

<center><gallery>
File:Tinyhorse02.png|With Caden.
File:Praetor4.jpg|With Owen.
File:Praetor5.jpg|Arguably one of the most iconic images of Chris out there, appearing on news articles and on his Wikitubia page</gallery></center>

On 19 October, Praetor's presence was made known to the public, when they released multiple photos of Chris and the members of Praetor at a Chinese restaurant. One of these images included the members' Instagram handles, making it very easy for them to get doxxed.

<center><gallery>
File:PraetorLLC.jpg|
File:Praetor Instagram tags copy-min.png|With [[Instagram]] handles
</gallery></center>

On 13 [[November 2020]], Chris uploaded [[Chris Chan Sonichu Intro animation]], an animation that Praetor had commissioned from [[Isabella Loretta Janke]]. After this, Bella began regularly chatting with Chris, [[Incest Call|eventually becoming rather infamous for unrelated reasons]].

===Starting the Etsy shop===

[[File:Sonichu medallion etsy dec 2020.jpg|250px|thumb|Praetor somehow manages to make the medallion look ''worse'']]
[[File:RedRobe.jpg|300px|thumb|Golden Church of Sonichu Cult Robe, sold a year after the server died out]]

In December, Praetor created an Etsy shop, [[OfficialCWCmart]], where they sell Sonichu medallions and other merchandise. The medallions sold by them manage to look much worse than any medallions made by Chris, and are completely inconsistent in how they look.

{{quote|(Editor's Note: All descriptions, titles, and product designs come directly from Chris Chan. These are hand done, and will therefore reflect the "Chris Chan Style." Expect defects, burns, and a general lapse in quality.)|Praetor's Etsy account, confirming that the products being shipped will be dogshit, even by Chris's standards}}

On 7 [[December 2020]], Praetor began offering Sonichu medallions for sale, which were produced by the group and approved of by Chris. A month later, they had made $5,900 worth of sales on their medallion product,<ref>[[The Place chats (January 2021)#The Watchmen Think Chris Should Get All of Praetor's Sales Money]]</ref> though information such as their operating costs is unknown, as is how much profit the group members had after expenses. In mid-January 2021, Chris confirmed having received nearly $400 in small cash amounts for his share.<ref>[[The Place chats (January 2021)#Cash from Praetor]]</ref>.

Many people have criticized Praetor for this income split, most notably the [[Watchmen]], however there is incomplete data on the split, and it is only a split for one of their products, one not made by Chris, and it is unknown what the split is for products Chris makes. However, when an [[Instagram]] user accused Owen Sundstrom of exploiting Chris for money, he responded, seemingly implying that Praetor was indeed exploiting Chris.

{{quote|That wasn’t me,, I tried to give Chris as much money as I could,, but I was cut outta preator,, I only got 10% even tho is was a partnership, and I was in Chris’s corner tryna make sure he wasn’t taken advantage of,,|Owen<ref name=oweninsta></ref>}}

====Golden Church of Sonichu====
{{main|Golden Church of Sonichu}}
Praetor also created a [[Discord]] server, [[Golden Church of Sonichu]], which was created for anyone who bought their Golden Medallions on their Etsy shop. The server served as another outlet for Chris to rant about his delusions. Caden often posted in there too, giving insight into Praetor's bizarre plans.

{{quote|-Christine has fully greenlit [REDACTED]'s video game. Please message Chris directly as soon as possible, as Christine would like to provide some direction with the game's storyline.

-The Praetor Flamethrower will be stress-tested this upcoming week at a local firing range sponsoring us. Please standby for future details.

-Christine has approved the future sale of Potions blessed by her. These are to be sold for less than $17 apiece, but a fixed price has not yet been decided. We need help finding cheaply shipped glassware in bulk. As cheap as possible is best, as we are going to be selling 3-4 kinds of potions stocked at at least 12 each. Bottles must be at very least 4oz, at most 16oz.

-Christine's Golden Medallions have already sold out. Expect more members soon.

-Test footage for [REDACTED] has been filmed in order to see if she can cgi a Sonichu next to Chris, allowing us to feature a Sonichu in the upcoming Chris Chan Movie. Please complete this as soon as possible, and we will kiss you on the mouth.|Caden<ref>[[Golden Church of Sonichu]]</ref>}}

Upon hacking into [[Isabella Loretta Janke]]'s account, [[Chris Kisses Rosechu|a short clip]] showing the behind-the-scenes process of the Chris Chan Movie was leaked. It shows Chris posing as a Praetor member commentates, telling him specific poses to do, while he's supposedly standing next to [[Rosechu]], who would be added in post as a CGI character.

==Taser Controversy==
{{see also|Taser}}
[[File:PraetorSignedTaser.png|300px|thumb|The Taser]]
[[File:praetor cart.jpg|thumb|250px|The image featured in the instagram post]]
[[File:PraetorTaserBox.jpg|thumb|250px|A message left for a customer who bought a taser]]

On 15 [[November 2020]], Praetor posted a screenshot of an online shopping service's shopping cart - in the cart was a Pikachu mask and a VIPERTEK VTS-989 560 BV stun gun. Praetor stated:

{{quote|As Praetor, we always work hard to produce the best videos we can. Good works are in progress!|Praetor on an Instagram post featuring a Pikachu mask and stun gun.<ref>https://www.instagram.com/p/CHms9kGlhc3/ (archive: https://archive.ph/K6ojQ)</ref>}}

Praetor later claimed this was for promotion of sales of autographed tasers.

===Conflict with the Watchmen===
{{see also|Taser Discussion}}
{{quote|we had a whole discussion about why it's a bad idea.|Caden, trying to talk Chris out of tazing himself.<ref name=tasercall>[[Taser Discussion]]</ref>}}
In [[February 2021]], Chris stated that he wanted to borrow one of Praetor's tasers to stun his [[Gate Crystal]] and [[Celestial Key]] [[quartz crystals]] in an attempt to activate the [[Dimensional Merge]].<ref name=thinking>[[Thinking with Portals#Praetor and the Taser‎]]</ref>

The Watchmen confronted Caden about this, saying that it was dangerous for Praetor to be allowing Chris to use it and that Chris could hurt himself. In response, Caden insisted that Chris would be safe and that the group would act with safety in mind, that he would not permanently possess one of their tasers, and that the version Chris would use is a lower-powered one than the items Praetor would be selling.<ref name=thinking></ref> Eventually, both parties began insulting each other on Discord. They eventually agreed to have [[Taser Discussion|a call]] about the issue, in which the Watchmen berate Caden about the issue.

Near the end of the call, [[Watchmen]] member [[Val]] jokingly asked if Praetor could get Chris to tase himself on video, to which Chris responded saying that he'd be willing too. Everyone is shocked by this, and Caden attempts to dissuade Chris from tazing himself.

After this call, the [[Watchmen]] gained an intense hatred and rivarly for Praetor and especially Caden, seeing him as on the same level as [[Joshua Wise]] or [[Jacob Sockness]]. [[Watchmen]] member [[Naught]] then released that portion of the audio clip, but twisted the context to make it seem like Praetor wanted Chris to tase himself. This rumor was perpetuated by other Watchmen members, and eventually reached [[GiBi]], who made a video claiming it was fact.

===Larry Vaughn===
{{see also|Larry Vaughn}}

Naught then doxxed Caden on the forum, which led to [[Larry Vaughn]] making multiple posts sharing his experiences with Praetor. While many were skeptical of Vaughn's claims, due to him arguably being an unreliable narrator, his [[Larry Vaughn DMs|DMs with Chris]] reveal that he did in fact have a phone call with Caden, meaning his post is most likely true<ref>[[Larry Vaughn DMs#Coded Message for Twitter Users]]</ref>.

{{collapsible|Larry Vaughn's Posts|
{{quote|Still hard to believe that [Caden Peck] legit thought that I was the representative of a group of rich folks that would buy shitty medallions so we could roleplay with Chris in a private Discord server.|Larry Vaughn<ref name=larryvaughn></ref>}}

{{quote|So my initial contact with them was when Christine sent me Caden's phone number and asked me to call him. I initially thought that he was going to tell me to fuck off, but he at the time at least entertained the idea of bringing 'us' (LAnon) on board. He pitched the idea of 'golden sonichu medallions' to me, which were basically regular Sonichu medallions with a code or something on them that would grant people access to a discord group to talk with Chris directly. He said that Christine "was a very busy woman with everything going on, and that Praetor basically served to screen out trolls from legitimate business dealings so she could have time to focus on her tasks." I said that I would entertain their offer, and I would just need to take a headcount of who would be interested in one.

[...]

-Praetor was the brainchild of Caden, and was initially just like the Teen Troon Squad before they had the idea to make a cult around Christine, and eventually even this devolved into them basically becoming a slightly less shitty version of the idea guys 2.0

-They work in a nasty basement painting Sonichu medallions to sell. Now people seem to think that they just give Chris the money. They don't, they basically hold it from him unless he does what they want

-The amount of money they make is apparently enough that Christine could have hired a private investigator to come after me, and this person contacted me after Chris threatened to call the cops on me

-My 'big plan' (Sending Chris to Florida) was apparently liked by Caden, to the point that he would pay for a ticket for Chris

-Chris claimed that Null was on Praetor's side, and was working with them to hunt me down (whether this is real or a delusion of Chris' is yet to be determined)|Larry Vaughn<ref name=larryvaughn></ref>}}

{{quote|To be honest Praetor just wants to further enable Chris at this point because doing so makes them money. Like they thought that I put mushrooms in the wine to poison Chris, they thought that they could get money from me, and they also thought that I was like 30 people.|Larry Vaughn<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Larry Vaughn)#Praetor]]</ref>}}
}}

===Resold===

In [[2022]], Praetor began selling tasers previously autographed by Chris on their Etsy shop, supposedly for the purpose of simulating "zapping to the extreme" for buyers. Etsy quickly removed this listing. Eventually, Praetor created a listing titled 'The Secret Listing', a listing that had no information on what it was. It was later revealed through [[March 2023 Praetor Interview|emails]] that The Secret Listing was a taser, with the fact hidden in order to bypass Etsy guidelines.

One of the people who bought the taser would mail it to the channel SuperMega, where they would unbox it on video<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW5OaHIfMdY&ab_channel=SuperMega</ref>.

==Jail Saga==
{{see also|Praetor Jail Art|OfficialCWCmart#Jail Saga Items}}
[[File:PraetorLetter.jpg|250px|thumb|Praetor's message to a customer who bought a piece of jail art]]

In [[July 2021]], Caden had plans to buy Chris a PC so he could do more streams,<ref>[[The_Knights_of_CWC_chats_(July_2021)#The_"Older_Lady_Friend"_Call_(Second_Layer_commentary)|Older Lady Friend Call]]</ref> however this plan was cut short by Chris's [[Incest Arrest|arrest]] after he [[Affair With Mother|fucked his mother]]. After Chris got kicked out of his house for this, he contacted Caden to try and get his assistance in finding a hotel, though it is unknown how Caden responded to this.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Asking about Incest Call leak]]</ref>

===Continued Business===
{{quote|Caden (Praetor) is genuinely one who is able to speak on my behalf when appropriate, and is in friendship and business association with I in mutual agreements|Chris<ref>[[Jail Letter - 14 July 2022]]</ref>}}
Praetor continued to talk to Chris. At one point, Chris mentioned that Caden was working on publishing the "Goddess Log", his jail diary<ref>[[Jail Call - 1 November 2021]]</ref>.

In [[May 2022]], Praetor began selling [[Praetor Jail Art|art that Chris made in jail]], making their contact with Chris much more obvious. They also added [[Jail Medallion Promotions|audio clips]] of Chris promoting their medallions from jail to their Etsy. Aside from these, the products sold on [[OfficialCWCmart]] became increasingly strange, including arrowheads, cult robes, and signed g-fuel.

In [[June 2022]], Chris started mentioning Caden in his letters, expressing his desire to have [[Helena Fiorenza]] collaborate with him<ref>[[Jail Letter - 25 June 2022]]</ref>, though Caden did not respond when Helena attempted to do so<ref name=july21>[[Jail Letter - 21 July 2022]]</ref>.

===Chris's Fundraiser Plan===
In [[July 2022]], Chris began writing in letters about his newfound hatred of [[Barb]]. He told Caden to check if Barb was still at [[14 Branchland Court]], which he apparently did. Chris then pulled several theoretical crimes out of his ass and instructed Caden to call the police on Barb, though there is no evidence Caden agreed to his request.

{{quote|By Caden’s confirmation, Barbara was still at the Sonichu Temple; Redneck and Stubborn. So, giving him the list of her charable crimes, including pet negigance/mistreatment, suicide threats, emotional manipulation and abuse upon I, and ADA’s law of using someone else’s SSI, I have instructed Caden alone, to call the police on her.|Chris<ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 July 2022]]</ref>}}

In another spate of selfishness, Chris, still desiring to live at 14 Branchland Court (but was allegedly legally forbidden from living with Barb, the owner of the house) decided on starting a $150,000 fundraiser to pay off [[14 Branchland Court]]'s mortgages and debts, and to put Barb in an Elderly Care Home. Chris hoped Caden, [[Kenneth Engelhardt]] and [[Helena]] would assist with his scheme.<ref name=july21></ref> Chris claimed to Helena that Caden was attempting to persuade Barb to move:<ref name=july21></ref>

{{quote|But Barb is being a Majorly Stubborn Individual in relocating her self. Caden is working on persuading her and presenting her with the Truths of the Legality.|Chris<ref name=july21></ref>}}

Chris also claimed he sent a letter to Caden directing him to organize the fundraiser. No such fundraiser has been announced.

{{quote|I have just sent a letter to Caden with all the specifics, and the one public letter and drawing on the matter, in organizing an online fundraiser to raise $150,000 to pay off the mortgage and debts, and some left to pay for her to start off in an Elderly Care Home|Chris<ref name=july21></ref>}}

Kenneth attempted to suggest Chris speak through a lawyer instead of Caden.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 22 July 2022 (1)]]</ref> Chris fired back angrily.

{{quote|And don't you judge Caden in that vain. He's not flawless, but he is more Perfect of himself and at what and how he does as a legit Friend and in working on my behalf; He actually works well with his flaws and limits, and he's made breakthrough with Barb, and he is not intimidating.|Chris<ref>[[Jail Letter - 29 July 2022]]</ref>}}

Chris's fundraiser scheme predictably failed, and contributed to Kenneth, Helena and [[Eels]] cutting ties with him.<ref>[[Excommunication letter]]</ref>

===Interview===
{{main|March 2023 Praetor Interview}}
In [[March 2023]], Praetor had [[March 2023 Praetor Interview|an interview]] with a [[Kiwi Farms]] user. In this interview, they claim that Chris calls them twice about the Etsy store. They also claim that the store has earned Chris a lot of money, despite him still being in jail.

{{quote|Chris calls twice a week to deal with the store, as no listings are made with out his express oversight. As for the cease and desists, we'd just advise that folk stay out of any trouble. Chris's cash has been accumulating, as the money he gets from both the store and monthly disability hasn't been touched while incarcerated.|Praetor}}

They claim that the reason Chris hasn't sent any letters or had any visitors is because [[David Heilberg]], Chris's lawyer, advised them to not let any "ill-meaning folk" near Chris.

{{quote|Both the lack of recent letters and having no visitors is intentional, as Heilberg advised us to close any way for ill-meaning folk to get close.|Praetor}}

They offer more insider knowledge on Chris, such as the fact that he has grown a beard in prison, and that he has plans to return, with strange aspirations as well. None of these claims have been confirmed true, so it's ideal to take them with a grain of salt, however, Chris did [[Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu Prime Resurrected and Returned|in fact return]], as foretold by Praetor.

==Post-jail involvement==
{{see also|OfficialCWCmart#Post-Jail Saga Items}}
[[File:Coveredsonchu.png|250px|thumb|What appears to be [[Son-Chu]], covered up so trolls wouldn't spot it, spotted on a Google Maps view of Caden's house]]
After plenty of sightings online and [[Post-jail sightings|offline]], Chris finally made his grand return in [[October 2023]]. Along with Chris's return, [[OfficialCWCmart]] returned as well, stocked with a plethora of new items. This included new [[Medallions|Sonichu medallions]], with brand new pictures of Chris in front of a green screen, new promotions of [[Neo Spiritual Christianity]], and [[2021 Lost Commissions|dozens upon dozens of lost commissions]] that Chris drew for the [[Everfree Northwest]] fundraiser in [[2021]]

Chris's new videos from this point forward were incredibly high quality (for Chris's standards), making it very likely that Praetor is behind these videos, as they have previous experience with high-quality editing and Chris uses the same green screen which is used in the Etsy store. Chris also consistently promotes [[OfficialCWCmart]] in the description of these videos.

===Big Island House===

In [[June 2023]], a property in [[Big Island]] was transferred to Caden Peck, along with an LLC called "Essential Estate LLC", for $235,000. In [[November 2023]], [[Kiwi Farms]] users managed to find evidence hinting at Chris living at the property, or at the very least using it as a studio. Firstly, Chris's [[November 2023 social media posts|P.O Box]] is only 22 minutes from the house, and Chris has been [[Post-jail sightings (2023)|previously sighted in Big Island]]. In an October 2023 Google Streetview, a car covered by a sheet can be seen outside the house, with a tire suspiciously similar to Chris's car. Lastly, in Chris's recent streams, we have occasionally gotten glimpses of his house, with one of the doors appearing in the streams perfectly matching up with a listing for the property.

Caden does not actually live with Chris, as he has another residence in Maryville, Missouri. This is shown when, a month after buying the Big Island house, four felonies were filed against Caden by Maryville authorities for allegedly illegally manufacturing and delivering psilocybin mushrooms, for which he received 5 years probation and 19 days in jail.<ref>https://www.courts.mo.gov/cnet/cases/newHeader.do?inputVO.caseNumber=23ND-CR00268&inputVO.courtId=SMPDB0001_CT04#docket</ref><ref>https://www.courts.mo.gov/cnet/cases/newHeader.do?inputVO.caseNumber=23ND-CR00268-01&inputVO.courtId=SMPDB0001_CT04#docket</ref><ref>https://www.courts.mo.gov/fv/c/REDACTED%20PC%20STATEMENT%20PECK.PDF?courtCode=04&di=921031</ref> Further indication that Caden does not live in Big Island is in the [[October 2023]] livestream [[The Return of Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu Prime]], in which Chris turns off the stream in order to respond to a phone call from Caden.

==See also==
*[[OfficialCWCmart]]
*[[Praetor Jail Art]]
*[[Goochland Library Sermon]]
*[[Taser]]
*[[Taser Discussion]]
*[[2021 Lost Commissions]]
*[[Chris Kisses Rosechu]]
*[[Isabella Loretta Janke]]
*[[Lynchburg and Big Island, VA]]
*[[Golden Church of Sonichu]]
*[[March 2023 Praetor Interview]]

==External links==
*[https://www.instagram.com/praetor_llc Praetor's Instagram (deleted)]
*[https://twitter.com/_Praetor_ Praetor's Twitter]
*[https://www.etsy.com/shop/OfficialCWCmart Praetor's Etsy]

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{{PraetorSaga}}
{{PrisonSaga}}
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{{RevelationsSaga}}
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Sandy Rosechu

2023-10-21T20:56:26Z

Necromaster:

{| class="infobox" style="width: 21em; font-size: 90%;"
|-
! colspan="2" | ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' character
|-
| colspan="2" | [[Image:SandyRosechu.jpg|200px]]
|-
! colspan="2" |Sandy Samantha Rosechu
|-
| '''Date of birth'''
| 9 August 2008 (in universe)
|-
| '''Gender'''
| Female
|-
| '''Height'''
| Unknown
|-
| '''Weight'''
| Unknown
|-
| '''Species'''
| [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechu]] ([[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]])
|-
| '''Type'''
| Ground/Electric
|-
| '''Parents'''
| [[Wild Sonichu]] and [[Simonla Rosechu]]
|-
| '''Evolves from'''
| [[Rosey]] (Soft Sand)
|}
{{quote|Yay! This soft sand is fun! [[Pedofork|Thank you, daddy!]]|Sandy, ''[[Sonichu 10]]''}}

'''Sandy Samantha "[[Sammy]]" Rosechu''' is the bastard daughter of [[Simonla Rosechu]] and [[Wild Sonichu]], with many of the same design elements as the former and none of the latter, making her [[Simonla Rosechu#Development|yet another kludge of a certain Chu]]. Thanks to her father's lust for vengeance overpowering any sort of paternal instincts, she is able to harbor a desire for revenge and ninja-skills at a very young age thanks to her training, and is later shown to not only be ludicrously hostile towards [[JERKS|males]] for seemingly no reason, but also eager to murder anybody that calls her by any form of her middle name. Despite being robbed of her childhood and trained in the art of killing, nobody in [[CWCville]] seems to object to her upbringing, and so the child soldier walks unattended, searching for her next target.

==Sonichu 10==
[[File:SandyKiller.JPG|thumb|Artist's depiction.]]

{{quote|"At least I will not have this issue to deal with in my teen years..."|Sandy, sadly mistaken for the years of therapy she'll need}}

In [[February 2010]] Chris finally caved to [[Evan#Effort_to_remove_Simonla_from_Sonichu|pressure from Evan]], and agreed to kill off Simonla. He fleshed out the original [[:File:SchuComic11P81.jpg|death page]] to reveal that Wild and Simonla had managed to shit out an egg together. It should be noted that Wild and Simonla were, as far as we know, never married, so Sandy is a bastard child. Moments later, Simonla is fatally wounded in a toilet explosion, and Wild sits on the egg ruminating about how much he and Simonla were looking forward to being parents, in an attempt to make readers caring about [[Sonee & Rosey|the little blessing]]. Shortly after Simonla dies, the abomination hatches and asks where Mommy is. Being sensitive and tactful, [[Magi-Chan]] promptly tells her that "Evan killed Mommy" (it was actually [[Alec]])<ref>''[[Sonichu 10]]'', pp. [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_10/Page_79 79]-[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_10/Page_84 84]</ref>

Less than a week after her hatching, Wild tricks Sandy into playing with Soft Sand. According to Chris's [[CWCipedia]] ramblings on [[Rosechu (species)#Rosechus and evolution|Rosechu evolution]], a Sandy Rosechu will evolve when it has high happiness and soft sand. This provides a possible explanation for how she was fully grown within one week.<ref>[[CWCipedia]] on [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Rosechu#Rosechu.27s_Evolution Rosechu's Evolution]; ''[[Sonichu 10]]'', [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_10/Page_85 p. 85].</ref> It is not unlikely that her very name is related to the role of sand in her evolution. The fact that this means Wild essentially stole his daughter's childhood and ''forced'' her to grow up in order to fulfill a revenge fantasy is both incredibly disturbing and completely in-line with the rest of the horrifying content present in [[Sonichu 10]].

By the time Evan, Alec, Mao and Sean go to trial for killing Simonla, she has the intelligence of a fourth-grader. [[Chris and the Law|Naturally]], all four are found guilty and are sentenced to be murdered in the most violent and bloody ways imaginable. Wild, responsible father that he is, encourages Sandy to brutally eviscerate Evan. Sandy does so, going as far as to mutilate Evan's genitals, right after displaying psychopathic tendencies by taking Evan's glasses as a trophy (a trait shared by [[Bundychu| Ted Bundy]], [[Homos| Jeffrey Damher]] and [[Affair with Mother| Ed Gein]], by the way). The duo round off this wholesome daddy/daughter bonding activity by delivering the killer blow together.<ref>''[[Sonichu 10]]'', pp. [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_10/Page_86 86]-[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_10/Page_92 92].</ref> If this wasn't fucked up enough, consider that Evan is technically, by the standards of the [[Chris and reality|CWCiverse]], Sandy's grandfather.

==During Hiatus==
{{quote|She kind of looks exactly like Simonla, but with like Lisa Simpson hair.| Alec's response to Sandy, [[Alec_Benson_Leary_Phone_Call_9|9th Phonecall with Chris]]}}

Sandy was basically a giant "Fuck you" to Evan, since she was little more than a smaller version of Simonla with a few cosmetic changes and an epic ''THIRST! FOR! BLOOD!'' Chris even goes into detail that Sandy is basically filling every single role Simonla did, becoming a construction worker, hanging out with [[Zapina]] and basically every single thing Simonla has ever been seen doing<ref>''[[Sonichu 10]]'', [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_10/Page_86 page 86]</ref> (which, fortunately, was very little/completely offscreen, and hopefully not also [[Chris and sex#Incest|everything she did for Wild]]).

According to the [[CWCipedia]], she is a good friend of [[Sonichu and Rosechu's children]] and in the years prior, attended [[Barbara Chandler|Anneweston Elementary School]] with them.<ref>[[CWCipedia]] on [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Wild_Sonichu Wild Sonichu]</ref>

[[File:Lego Sandy.jpg|thumb|right|[[LEGO]] Sandy.]]
In the years the comic lied dormant after the conclusion of Sonichu 10, it was a mystery if Sandy would be a recurring or regular character, or if she'd get sent to [[the Moon]]. Readers speculated that if she became a recurrent character, she'd probably follow in her mother's footsteps and devolve into [[Women's rights|yet another soulless husk]] who lived only to validate the heterosexuality of some random Sonichu.

On 24 [[May 2014]], Chris revealed on Facebook that Sandy's mother [[Simonla Rosechu#Resurrection|had come back from the dead]] to rather negative, and later indifferent reception. Readers pondered if this was good news for Sandy as her mother was now alive, or bad news because it meant she was completely pointless now and would be religated to obscurity. However, readers seemed to underestimate Chris' emotional attachment to his hedgehog "family" and didn't realize that now that Sandy was a part of his insane coping mechanism, Chris would never let her disappear as long as he lived.

==Sonichu 11==
After years of inactivity, the Sonichu Christmas Special came back from hiatus. It was revealed that Simonla had a powerful healing factor and her bones were made from a powerful metal named "Simatanium" in her honor. Between February and December of that year, Simonla was in and out of the hospital recovering, confined to a wheelchair for most of the later months. Sandy had limited interaction with her mother during the time due to her hospitalization, but after her mother fully recovered on Christmas Day, Simonla finally returned home, and Sandy was able to bond the mother that was almost taken from her.

The grisly, gruesome murder Sandy was forced to commit by her father had now been erased from history, and instead her mother's attackers were sent to live in Amish Country. This is mostly because trolls convinced Chris to backtrack on the gorey ending of Sonichu 10, but also partly because he probably realized it was extremely fucked up to have an adult instruct a child to drill a man's cock off.

Later, Sandy was the first to see her uncle, Simonchu, when he visited their home. Despite Simonchu having very little to do with Simonla's assault, Sandy still went into a psychotic rage and threatened to murder Simonchu. While in light of the recent retcons this may seem like an overreaction, later issues seem to imply Chris' OCs retain memories of previous timelines, which might explain why she's still so fucking psycho.

Simonla manages to calm her crazy ass daughter down, and after Simonchu explains the situation and how he had basically nothing to do with the attack on his sister, Sandy began to warm up to Simonchu. The two later bonded while exploring fossils.

==Later Issues==
Afterwards, Sandy had very little to do in the comics. Chris would occasionally mention her in passing or have her in a crowd shot. Just like he said on the Cwcipedia, Sandy was revealed to go to school with Sonichu's kids and be friends with them, even attending the SLGBT Pride festival together. While initially readers speculated that Simonla's return would reduce Sandy to an extremely minor role in the comic, Simonla was also relegated to the same level of obscurity, making them both equally pointless.

In [[Sonichu 13]], Simonla's family home is destroyed when the tunnels she dug under CWCville collapse. Sandy, her mother and all her female friends were kidnapped by [[Nazis]], and they were then all gang-raped by Nazi prison guards and forcibly impregnated by Nazi Sonichus to breed new soldiers for their dwindling army. They were all rescued when Chris and an ally brutally slaughtered all the Nazi guards. This horrific event undoubtedly further traumatized her already horribly scarred psyche.

==References==
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Affair with Mother

2023-09-09T10:26:42Z

Necromaster: Is the affair still ongoing? (needs expansion)

:''This page is about the affair itself. For the leaks in which Chris describes incestuous acts, see [[Incest Call]] and [[Incest Texts]]. For the subsequent legal consequences, see [[Jail Saga]]. For Chris's general stance on incest, see [[Chris and sex#Incest|here]].''

{{Honest}}
{{Misinfo|Chris had a felony charge of incest, not rape. This page discusses whether the affair was consensual or not, but ultimately can not confirm or deny it. No matter what you believe, please ''avoid calling Chris a rapist on this wiki'' unless he is officially charged or confirmed to have raped Barb.}}

{{quote|Anyhow, who among Everyone in this world has not had a dream of having sex with one of their parents? Never acting on them ever, [[Honest Content|I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother]].|Chris on [[Facebook]] in [[2016]]. Chris would act on his instincts five years later.<ref name=dream>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>}}
{{quote|You're supposed to say: "Turn me loose, you silly goose!" '''...You used to do that more flirtingly.'''|Chris while forcefully embracing [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}
[[File:SoulBonding.jpg|thumb|An artist's interpretation of the act. ([[For Julie's Eyes Only|We can only imagine that Chris shouted "BARBAAAY!" at least once when this happened.]])]]
For years, trolls joked that [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]], in his desperation to find a [[boyfriend-free girl]], would eventually turn to [[Barbara|his mom]] based on his occasional off‐putting comments about her and their constant proximity to one another. Few thought he would ever go through with the act, though — but Chris found a way to surprise and horrify everybody.

Chris and Barb's '''incestuous affair''' most likely began on 27 [[June 2021]],<ref name=call>[[Incest call#Transcript]]</ref><ref name=wct/> but [[June 2021 social media posts|his social media presence in]] earlier in the month, may hint at an earlier start to the affair. As early as 22 June, he began addressing Barbara by the unsettling pet name of "Barbie Chan", which may have indicated when he began to get intimate with her. After this date Chris claimed that he had sex with her once every three nights until being forcibly stopped by being removed from the house.

On 27 July 2021, during a call with [[Isabella Loretta Janke|Isabella "Bella" Loretta Janke]], [[Honest Content|Chris revealed the details of his sexual activities with his mother of his own volition]],<ref>[[WCT DMs#Asking about Incest Call leak]]</ref> also discussing it in text messages later that day. In those, Chris discussed stimulating his elderly mother with his hands, performing cunnilingus on her, and having penetrative sex with her.<ref name=deviant>[[Incest Texts]]</ref> He claimed that Barbara compared him favorably to her previous sexual partners, including Chris's father [[Bob]], who had been unable to provide her with an orgasm or stimulate her {{w|G-spot}}.

Files were leaked to the public the following night,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/oudn5m/chris_chan_admits_to_having_sex_with_his_mother/</ref> and social workers removed Chris from Barbara on the morning of 30 July. In early August 2021, Chris was [[Jail Saga|arrested, officially charged with one count of incest, and was held without bail]].

Chris was kept in jail or in a mental hospital until [[April 2023]], at which point he was released. His incest charge was outright dropped in [[August 2023]], and he did not have to register as a sex offender. He has [[Affair with Mother#Chris's Comments on the Affair post-incarceration|commented on the charge against him]] numerous times since his arrest.

==Background and foreshadowing==
{{Needs Updating|[[Lonely feelings]], [[Teen Troon Squad chats]]}}

[[File:July28BeautyArtwork.jpg|thumb|left|400px|Note the talk of "soul bonding" in the right-hand corner.]]

In general, the relationship between Chris and his mother has always been seen as a "little too close", likely due to his mother's overly coddling nature towards him in his early life all through to his adulthood mixed with the emotionally abusive control tactics she implemented against both him and Bob. It was keenly noted during the [[DoopieDoOver|Doopie Saga]] that Chris had used the words "[[darling]]" and "dear", commonly reserved for romantic relationships, to refer to his mother.

Many Christorians have noted that potential hints or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris and his mother have been made previously. In a [[PVCC NEW info: on Chris and Barbara spoon eachother!|2010 voice chat]] between various [[PVCC]] forum members, [[Kim Wilson]] talked about a discussion where Chris revealed he was spooning his mother on a regular basis. She also revealed that Chris told her that he'd once had a [[Dreams|wet dream]] about Barb as an Egyptian belly dancer. When asked by Emily if he'd repopulate the planet if he and his mother were the only two people left in existence, Chris went silent and then denied any desire to have sex with his mother.

[[File:CWCTablet25Jul2021.jpg|thumb|"Top 10 Hottest Anime Moms Ever", a video Chris watched on 25 July 2021, days before he bragged about incestuous acts on his mother.<ref>Date can be seen in [[:File:SuitressTablet.jpg]]</ref>]]

As early as October 2015, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement for the [[pepper spray]] incident, Chris and his mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion.<ref>[[26 December 2014#15 October Hearing]]</ref> As recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as [[Magi-Chan]], referred to his mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Furthermore, in August 2016, Chris admitted to having [[Dreams#Mother_dreams|dreams of having sex with his mother]] in a Facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother".<ref name=dream></ref> Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwi Farms that following the [[2014 house fire]], Chris and his mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating "I am not a '[[wikipedia:Norman Bates|Bates]]'. OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>

According to both [[Bella]] and [[MKRNightVee]], Chris brought up the dreams of sex with his mother again to them in private conversations. In a 19 [[July 2021]] conversation with the [[Chess Club]] Discord server, Bella mentioned that Chris, during his phase of [[role-play]]ing as Sonichu, brought up that he had a dream of having sex with his mother, to which Bella replied that it was weird and questioned what it meant, to which an offended Chris asked if she was calling Chris weird.<ref>[[Chess Club Chats#Suicide Plan Claims]]</ref> On 30 [[July 2021]], MKR commented about the leak of the incest news, and mentioned that Chris had told her about sexual dreams with his mother, and that MKR dismissed it as one of Chris's many crazy dreams.<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1421182090586988549 (archive: https://archive.ph/Scjbk)</ref>

On 5 [[July 2021]], [[Kiwi_Farms_posts_(Null)#Chris's_"girlfriend"|Chris revealed that he was having sex with]] [[Barbara_Chandler#Early_life|an older woman with a background in accounting, and whom he had known for a long time]] to [[Null]] in confidence. Null, having no idea [[Barbara_Chandler|who Chris was talking about]], praised Chris for [[Honest_Content|managing to keep something secret for once,]] and encouraged Chris to keep their relationship secret to protect her identity.

[[July 2021 social media posts#Beauty artwork|Chris released a piece of artwork on his Twitter feed]] on 28 [[July 2021]], showing "soul-bonding" between an elderly Libra woman (which Barb is) and a younger woman that suspiciously looks like [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Chris's fictionalized counterpart]], clandestinely hinting at the horrifying affair that was just days from being revealed (the only major inconsistency is that Chris is a Pisces and appears elsewhere in the picture with the correct sign). [[The Suitress]] had also posted a screen cap of a video on Reddit, which Chris claimed that he had watched days prior to his affair being revealed.

Chris had stated [[Lonely feelings|in a conversation]] he had with [[Watchmen]] members that he had feelings of loneliness, and had wanted to get action on with a real, physical woman. Unfortunately for everyone, Chris's desires would lead him to a very dark place.

== The affair ==

On 27 June 2021, Chris began to engage in incest with his mother.<ref name=call/><ref name=wct>[[WCT DMs#New sweetheart]]</ref> Chris claimed he "approached her with care and caution," and that Barb even made the "first move."<ref name=call/>

When pressed for details on the dirty deed, Chris has shown an unsurprising lack of [[Chris and remorse|remorse]] for his actions, stating that his actions were ordained by [[Chris and religion|GodJesus Himself]]. If anything, he was more upset that [[Bella]], [[Null]], [[Dillin]], and other people ratted him out [[Honest Content|after he provided a confession to a felony]].<ref>[[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021]]</ref><ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 October 2021]]</ref>

=== The gory details ===

{{Protip|[[Fabricated BDSM texts|Texts purporting BDSM roleplay]] are fakes doctored by Bella. With that said, this list is still not entirely reliable, as details may vary and because Chris is [[List of Chris's lies|typically not interested in honesty in these scenarios]].}}
[[File:SurrealIncest.png|thumb|A surreal depiction of the events]]
In case you have some kind of morbid curiosity of how the affair could have went down, here is a list of "activities" that Chris had allegedly done to/with his mother:

#'''Massages'''<ref>[[July 2021 social media posts#Signature sex move]]</ref> - Presumably full body ones since it included her thighs (and her face for some reason); this is probably the same type of massage he gave to [[Mia Hamm]]. Chris also claimed in a chat with [[The WCT]] that he had bought massaging oil, and made the claim that it is perfect to use on one's lover. <ref>[[WCT DMs#Massage oil and dream]]</ref>
#'''Kissing''' - Apparently did not involve tongues.
#'''Outer Course''' - Rubbing her pussy with his fingers and hands, this happened at least twice before the next step, probably more.
#'''Intercourse''' - By this, he means fingering her, it apparently hurt her when he did so.
#'''Cunnilingus''' - Eating her out, [[Chris and his ego|claims he's good at it]]. No information about if she returned the favor. <ref name=deviant/>
#'''Penetration''' - Vaginal, apparently with the use of a condom, he proceeded to get himself tested for STI's afterwards anyway.
#'''Cuddling''' - According to a letter from jail, Chris supposedly "cuddled" with Barb in the times of incest.<ref name=letter>[[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021]]</ref>

According to [[Null]], Chris had been buying large amounts of sex toys and lingerie from [[Adam & Eve]] for several months prior to committing his acts. What sex toys Chris potentially used, if any, is uncertain.

===Negligee===
{{Main|Negligee}}
[[File:CWCWithFanJun27.png|thumb|100px|left|A photo of Chris wearing the negligee in front of a fan.]]
Chris stated that he purchased a negligee and claimed that Barb approved of the idea.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Sexy negligee]]</ref> This was eventually confirmed on 3 March 2022, when a Reddit fan posted photos of themselves with Chris in the negligee.

{{clear}}

==Rationalizations==
Chris has rationalized the affair in multiple ways.

*'''Divine approval''' - Chris claimed in the [[Incest Call]] that God told him the incest was okay.

*'''Soul-Bonding and Healing''' - In a jail letter that [[Emanuel]] told him to have sex with Barb in order to "heal" her and "cleanse her of her sins".<ref name=letter/> In a later letter, Chris mentions that "Soul Bonding does not necessarily constitute sex" which implies that it ''can'' be.<ref>[[Jail_Letter - 16_November_2021]]</ref> He described soul-bonding as "the Bonding and Union of Auras (Energy Fields) between at least two individuals."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 June 2022]]</ref> Chris seems to be under the impression that if he didn't engage in this "healing" then Barbara would have died or being more heavily injured by her [[November 2021]] car accident, completely ignoring the fact that if Chris had not engaged in it, chances are Barb wouldn't have been in a car accident at all, since she wouldn't have been forced to drive on her own due to her son's absence.<ref>[[Jail_Letter - 11 January 2022]]</ref>

*'''Defense measure against Sockness''' - Chris claimed that "my having had sex is also a defense mechanism in regards to [[Sockness]] and what he had/may have in mind with me and being near me," referring to Sockness's history of scheming to have sex with Chris, and that Chris planned to use the fact of his affair as a "truth bomb" to deter Sockness.<ref name=soulbonding>[[Bella chats#Soul Bonding]]</ref>

==Awareness of wrongdoing==
Chris was aware of the illegal nature of incest. In August 2016, he read a news article on the topic of a mother and son charged with incest and commented over Facebook on it, defending the two and saying they should not be sent to jail.<ref name=dream></ref>

Five years later, in the midst of his own affair with his mother, Chris still demonstrated awareness that the action was illegal. While he desired to discuss the affair with people, he first concocted a cover story in which he used misleading euphemisms such as "lady friend" to describe his sexual partner and claimed that the supposed lady friend and Barb had met each other<ref name=spill>[[Bella chats#Chris Wants to Spill the Beans]]</ref><ref>[[WCT DMs#Chris describes his lady friend]]</ref> and he insisted on keeping the identity of the lady friend secret,<ref name=soulbonding></ref><ref name=null>[[Null DMs#Chris vaguely describes his relationship]]</ref><ref name=wct></ref> though he dropped hints such as age<ref name=soulbonding></ref> and employment history.<ref name=null></ref>

After a month of using his cover story, Chris decided to push further and tell someone that his mother was the sexual partner. He selected [[Bella]]. Before telling her, Chris first spent time trying to manipulate her into keeping silent on what he would say by use of a guilt trip.

{{quote|And I ask you Not to Overthink or ask for further details in pressing on. That is not a good thing to do.|Chris to Bella, 17 July 2021<ref name=soulbonding></ref>}}

Over a week later, Chris, ready to divulge his secret, first claimed to Bella that he was uncertain of telling her as he was concerned about the government hacking into the conversation, which backfired on Chris as this tipped off Bella into suspecting that he was about to discuss an illegal act.<ref>[[Bella and Suitress chats#Bella suspects incest]]</ref>

{{quote|I realize I am remaining and sounding distant on the questioning, and it will become more clear and obvious when I tell you, in-person, who she is.

I actually wish I could tell you over text or voice call, but the government and anyone with the tech can easily hack into those methods|Chris, prior to the [[Incest Call]].<ref name=spill></ref>}}

Within the same conversation, Chris recommended using the encrypted text/video call app Signal (having used it to communicate with [[Null]]), which Bella agreed to download.<ref name=spill></ref>

After Chris's conversations about committing incest were publicly leaked, [[The WCT]] sent Chris messages over [[Discord]] asking him what had happened. Chris gave an explanation, then began deleting his messages. Chris requested that The WCT delete his side of the conversation as well, which WCT obliged (though had taken screenshots in real time to discuss with [[The Knights of CWC]]).<ref>[[WCT DMs#Asking about Incest Call leak]]</ref>

==Leaks==
{{main|Incest Call|Incest Texts}}
In the leaks, Chris admits that he and his mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris masturbating his mother, and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. It is further alleged that his mother compared him to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father.

{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. Then she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played with down there by hand.|Text message from Chris.<ref name=deviant></ref>}}
{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing his sexual activities with his father's sexual activities.<ref name=deviant></ref>}}
[[File:Arrestchu.jpeg|thumb|"Ladies and gentlemen, we got him."]]

The leaked audio likewise contained graphic descriptions of sexual activity, which Chris alludes to as the veracity of "incest fanfics". The authenticity of the recording was confirmed by Chris to [[Dillin Thomas]].<ref name="admission">[[Incest fallout chat leaks#Chris confesses to Dillin Thomas]]</ref>

Prior to the allegations being revealed to the public, Chris informed [[Bella]], [[Null]], and [[The WCT]] about the fact that he found a [[boyfriend-free girl]], although he wanted her identity to remain secret. He offered multiple hints about the identity of his new [[sweetheart]], but told Null that he wanted him to figure out who it was. Null was initially skeptical of the incest claims, since the [[Idea Guys]] previously coerced him into recording a (then untrue) statement that he had raped Barb, and believed that this could be another instance of similar manipulation. Null hypothesized that Chris was attempting to protect the identity of his new girlfriend by making up an elaborate lie, but eventually came to realize that Chris had been having frequent sex with Barb upon reviewing Chris's hints.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Chris's "girlfriend"]]</ref>

After this information eventually came to light, Chris indicated that it was "drama" and that he only intended to share the information to [[Messiah complex|test his followers]], who he trusted not to share the information with the public at large despite incest being illegal. Chris later compared Null to {{w|Judas Iscariot}} for "betraying" him by trusting him with such [[Honest Content]]. [[Chris and remorse|Chris being Chris]], he seems to be more upset over the fact that [[Honest Content|trusting people not to leak evidence of a criminal act]] led to [[Jail Saga|serious, life-changing consequences for him]] than the idea that he may have caused harm to Barb, and as multiple [[jail letters]] show, he does not have guilt over the fact that he did something illegal (not to mention he clearly hasn't learned from ''years'' of experience that [[Honest Content|constantly sharing personal information at the drop of a hat]], be it embarrassing or '''incriminating''' in this case, invariably comes back to bite him in the rear later on).

== Was it consensual? ==

{{Protip| The following information should not be taken as definite proof that Chris raped Barb or not; this is simply a list of evidence that Chris has provided himself, which due to Chris's habit of lying for the pettiest of reasons, can be seen as unreliable by some. Due to the sensitive nature of this topic, please avoid saying for sure if Chris did or did not rape Barb.}}

On the CWCki, there are two main camps that people fall into when discussing this topic:
There are people who believe the affair to be abusive or even flat-out rape, while there are other people who believe the affair was consensual between the two.

The following list contains many common points of argument for both sides but also a counterargument for each and every one.

The evidence for the affair being nonconsensual are as follows:

* Barb has been speculated to be suffering from dementia or some other form of mental decline; there are too many videos of her displaying symptoms to list, but this could be her intentionally faking it for sympathy donations. Also, some have pointed out that Barb was quite cognizant in other recent videos, adding weight to the theory that her behavior in the begging videos could have been exaggerated.
* Chris mentioned during [[Incest Texts]] that Barb told him to stop during his attempts to finger her; however, this would have been Chris's first time fingering a woman ([[Mia Hamm]] didn't allow him to do so during their times together) and Chris mentioned this act hurt Barb at first; meaning Barb could have been stopping him from his attempts due to the pain but otherwise consented to be fingered.
* Chris, during the [[Incest Call]], mentions that Barb seemed partially confused at first; However, Chris did say she "came around," so it's possible he was referring to his advances towards her, and she didn't initially understand/ believe what Chris was asking for.
* Chris mentioned in [[Jail Letter - 22 July 2022 (2)]] that Barb was "Zombie-like" and not even aware of her surroundings even before the affair began; while damning (if true), it's worth mentioning that Chris during the letter is begging Kenneth for assistance in moving Barb out of the house, arguing that Barb simply cannot take care of herself. Chris, being Chris, could simply not know the implications of what he's actually saying, and it's quite possible that Chris is desperately lying since Kenneth disapproved of the idea unless there was no other option for Barb.

The evidence for the affair being consensual are as follows:

* Chris and Barbara's relationship is infamously creepy and way too close for comfort; this is the main source of people believing the affair was consensual and for good reason. Barb would often yell at Chris if he didn't share a bed with her, and Chris has admitted numerous times that he spoons with her (after Bob's death). They were also often seen talking to each other and even holding each other as if they were husband and wife for a long time before the affair began. Barb is infamous for being horribly [[Chris and manipulation|manipulative]] for her own personal gain, and she does not see any problem with coddling and emotionally blackmailing Chris in order to go along with what she wants to do (usually money or food-related stuff); with this in mind, while their relationship is definitely unhealthy for a mother and son to have, it does not prove that Barb was interested in an incestuous affair with Chris.
* Chris claimed to Null during his temporary homelessness in [[Null DMs|a direct message]] that the affair was definitely consensual; however, [[Honest Content|even somebody like Chris]] would probably hesitate to admit raping their own mother, especially to their main benefactor at the time.
* Chris boasted during the [[Incest Call]] that Barb was "having a good time" and even claimed that he let her make the first move; even if this is true, it does not rule out that Chris hadn't coerced or otherwise manipulated her into having sex with him since he did mention in the same call that she was "partially confused at first." Chris's idea of approaching a love interest with "care and caution" '''does not''' translate to consent or even consideration for somebody else's feelings; his idea of nervous behavior around [[Kacey]], for example, included touching her multiple times without her consent and his interactions with [[Megan]] which he describes as "friendly" also included a lot of unwanted attempts to hug and kiss her.
* In [[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022]], Chris claimed that after he lost his virginity to Mia Hamm and told his mom about it, Barb stated that she would have had sex with him herself; while this does sound like Barb offering herself to Chris, there is a massive possibility that Barb was simply saying he could [[Attraction Sign|pull women without paying them]]. Though definitely creepy, it does not mean she actually wanted sex with him and even if she did, the quote came from a decade beforehand so this would not count as consent.

In the end, we will perhaps never honestly know; Barb is apparently not willing to comment or give any further details (and thankfully, nobody has pressed her on such), and Chris is currently in denial that the affair ever took place. If Chris was formally charged and sentenced with felony incest (or perhaps rape), it could've be a case of Chris simply piling on tons of poorly worded evidence against himself [[Honest Content|(as he's done throughout most of his life)]]; but even since Chris's charge was dismissed, it could be seen as yet another example of the criminal justice system [[Honor roll|going easy]] on [[Autism|somebody with special needs]], and Chris got away with yet another crime [[Chris and the law|(something that he has also done throughout most of his life)]].

Ironically, despite this being one of the most critical moments in Chris's life, [[Geno Samuel|a life that has been documented extensively down to the finest detail]], we continue to and will likely never know the essential details of it.

==Chris's Comments on the Affair post-incarceration==
During the incarceration that followed Chris's incest with his mother, he had communicated numerous times with members of the public via letters and telephone calls. Some of those letters (and one recorded phone call which has been publicly shared) contain commentary by Chris regarding the charges for which he was in jail. The first publicly available letter in which Chris touches on the subject of the alleged incest was written on [[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021|19 September 2021]]. In it, Chris appears to strongly imply that he indeed had sex with Barbara. Chris's comments on the affair are tied with his elaboration of his previously expressed delusions of Godhood. He reveals to have realized himself to be the present day reincarnation of Jesus Christ. The supreme Goddess Emanuelle had ordered him to to purify Barbara of her sins and improve her abilities. In his description of how this was done, Chris writes that he and his mother "mainly Cuddled, Soul-Bonded, and Talked." No explicit details are provided, but the rest of the letter strongly implies that sexual acts were included in Chris's "healing" of Barbara. Chris goes on to write that the healing he performed on his mother was similarly done by him on other individuals during his previous life as Jesus Christ, though the details of said healings were omitted from the the Bible. Chris then goes on to inform the letter's recipient that "We Gods had eased up on the views of "Adultry" [sic]; WHY Else do you all have Pro-Gay, and Pro-Lesbian, Pro-Trans, and all Today and the past Decades?" While the word "adultery" is typically used to refer to marital infidelity, it appears that in this letter it is intended to mean all acts that go against traditional sexual morality (i.e., what Christians have usually called "fornication"). By grouping the "healing" of Barbara in the same category as intimate relations between members of the same sex, Chris strongly implies that the "healing" of Barbara likewise included romantic and sexual acts. Chris's defense of the "healing" on the counts that all those who were involved in it were both willing and above the legal age of consent further enhances the impression that it was at least partially sexual in nature.

While the 19 September letter was just a few baby steps away from being an explicit admission of incest, it did not take long for Chris to become more coy as to whether or not incest between himself and Barb had occurred. In a [[Jail Call - 1 November 2021|1 November 2021 telephone call]], Chris fails to either explicitly deny or acknowledge that he and Barb had sex. The same ambiguousness regarding the truthfulness of the charges against him can be seen in a letter written on [[Jail Letter - 16 November 2021|16 November 2021]].

At some point Chris changed his tune and began to outright deny that there was ever any sexual intimacy between him and his mother. As far as public evidence goes, Chris first explicitly denied the charges against him in the [[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022|11 May 2022 jail letter]]. In the same letter, Chris alleges that in [[May 2012]] Barbara made sexual advances towards him after he revealed to her that he had paid a prostitute a month beforehand. He goes on to write that after the death of Bob Barb came to see Chris as a husband-like figure. Further denials that Chris ever had sexual relations with Barb appear in jail letters written on [[Jail Letter - 1 June 2022|1 June]] and [[Jail Letter - 4 June 2022|4 June 2022]]. Chris does acknowledge that prior to his arrest he told others that he had sex with Barb, but by now he claims that those admissions were false. As he wrote in the 4 June 2022 letter: "I have never had sex with Barbara; that was purely Big Talk to Divinely Test everyone." Already in the letters from 19 September 2021 and 16 November 2021 Chris claimed that his pre-arrest admissions were made in order to test certain individuals, but (at least far public evidence goes) only from May 2022 Chris began to claim that these admissions were false.

==Consequences==
{{Main|Jail Saga}}
It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest – sexual activities between a parent and a child are a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. Chris was swiftly removed from his home by an Emergency Protective Order, then arrested the next day. In the wake of his charges, Chris was [[ban]]ned from [[Patreon]] and [[Tapas]]. Collaborators who had once worked with him withdrew, such as the band who released [[Love is Love (song)|Love is Love]] pulling it from sale.

Since then, he was held without bail in Central Virginia Regional Jail before getting transferred to [[Western State Hospital]], awaiting trial.<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/269663503100241/photos/a.398555170211073/4389133984486485/?type=3 Press release]</ref> On 3 [[May 2022]], Chris was transferred back to CVRJ. In [[March 2023]], Chris was released from jail.

===Chris and Barbara's relationship===
{{Needs Updating|Citations}}
Chris and Barbara's relationship deteriorated during Chris's stay in jail. In a jail letter, Chris mentioned that Barb had ceased communicating with him.{{cite}}. During summer 2022, Chris began to speak ill of Barb in his letters, insulting and making spurious claims about her.{{cite}} While still in jail, Chris began planning for his housing post-release. In light of a restraining order being placed on Chris preventing him from contact with Barb{{cite}}, Chris believed he deserved to live in [[14 Branchland Court]] over Barb, and requested his [[enablers]] assist him with a [[Kickstarter]] fundraiser to bribe Barb into moving into senior housing, claiming that [[Caden]] was helping with this scheme, and that it was his initial idea.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 29 July 2022]]</ref>

=== Is the Affair still going now? ===

{{Protip| As horrifying as the implications are of Chris's actions and what he could potentially be doing, there is no definitive proof that Chris is continuing his incestous relationship with his mother. Even if he is and even if you believe he is abusing her please refrain from calling [[A-logging|for vigilante justice]]. If evidence ever comes out about Chris abusing Barb the thing to do if you're concerned is to contact the local authorities, they will handle the situation in a lawful manner.}}

With Chris's release from jail and his subsequent dismissal of the case, Chris has recently moved back in with his mother at the Sonichu temple but what exactly this means for Barb is rather unclear.

On one hand many could argue that Chris has learnt his lesson and is scared enough about going jail that he would refrain from continuing their affair, as stubborn as he can be about changing his attitude it should be noted that incarceration is one of the few things that can get Chris to behave himself afterwards, 2015 was notable for Chris [[Law|mostly behaving himself]] for the entire year due to a measly single day in jail. So logically one could argue that a whole 2 years would shake Chris up enough to not touch Barb again.

However, [[Remorse|Chris doesn't think he did anything wrong]] in fact he has outright stated in his many [[jail communications]] that he believed he was actually doing a good thing for Barb by "spiritually healing her" with his actions. Chris is aware that his actions are illegal, even years prior he knew [[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts| that incest was illegal]] but infamously still encouraged it at the time and would go onto commit the acts himself many years later. Chris has also been deliberately keeping a low profile for once in his life and has [[Helena Fiorenza|only one known communication with the outside world]]. It is entirely possible that Chris has not learnt his actions were wrong and shouldn't be repeated, but instead that he should keep his mouth shut about it.

==Fan videos==

{{Infobox/Fanvideo
|name = Sonichu Says NO to Barbussy Mitai [emptyhero]
|ytid = tsYBphxweBY
|stardate = 22 Nov 2022
|maker = emptyhero
|info = BLAST ALL YOUR BEANS IN MY BARBUSSY PLEASE
}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
|name = Poor Sonichu...
|ytid = WIZfv3scrx4
|stardate = 13 Feb 2022
|maker = Emperor Techno
|info = Warning: kinda spooky
}}

{{Infobox/Fanvideo
|name = Chris-Chan and his mom every 3rd night since June 27
|ytid = mjARTrVL_0w
|stardate = 10 Aug 2021
|maker = American Goblin
}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
|name = Chris Chan be like..
|ytid = Srz73CkOgwQ
|stardate = 2 Aug 2021
|maker = Through Time and Space
}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
|name = Chris Chan sings P. Y. T . (Pretty Young Thing) by Michael Jackson
|ytid = a-g_MbWn5-0
|stardate = 23 Aug 2023
|maker = AI Christian & The Hedgehog Boys
}}

==See also==
{{FanArt}}
*[[Chris and sex]]
*[[Chris and the law]]
*[[Jail Saga]]
*[[Soul Bonding]]
*[[The Binding of Isaac‎]]
*[[Ultimate Guide to Sex and Disability]]

{{Notes}}
{{References}}
{{Articleofthenow}}
{{IncestSaga}}
{{Love Quest}}

[[Category:Articles with Jail Saga speculation]]

Sonichu 82

2023-08-26T08:51:13Z

Necromaster: comic number 82 note

{{Draft}}
{{quote|Time to restore order from this chaos|Quote from the comic cover}}
{{Infobox/Comic
| titleandissue = Sonichu #82
| cover = Sonichu Book 82 cover by nightstarrosechu2891.jpeg
| coverdate = 22 [[April 2023]]
| finishedcomic =
| pagecount = ?
| episodes =
| previous = [[Sonichu 17|''Sonichu'' #17]]
| next =
}}
'''''Sonichu'' #82''' is an unreleased issue of the [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'' comic series]]. To date, only the cover has been released. The cover was released within a batch of artwork Chris posted to his [[NightStarRosechu2891]] DeviantART account. Notably, the cover date of [[April 2023]] takes place after Chris's release from [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]] on his [[incest]] charge. The cover's signature reads "Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu Prime", and the corner box contains the initials JCWCSP - presumably short for Jesus Christine Weston Chandler Sonichu Prime - proving that Chris's [[messiah complex]] which ramped up during his stay in jail has continued unabated.

Chris has decided to number the issue "82"; with the last issue being [[Sonichu 17]] this suggests that Chris has a whopping 65 unknown comics planned.

{{Sonichu}}
[[Category:Sonichu comic book issues]]

Post-jail sightings (2023)

2023-05-08T21:41:11Z

Necromaster:

{{Ongoing}}
{{protip|We once again advise you to never directly engage with Chris. On the off-chance that you cross paths with Chris, the absolute ''most'' that you should do is [[Passive observers|get some kind of documentation of Chris, but never to directly engage with him]], but otherwise, leave Chris alone. To put it more bluntly: ''DO NOT'' attempt to stalk Chris upon seeing him, and ''NEVER'' speak to Chris in ''ANY'' way shape or form, or to anyone at his group home. [[Megan Schroeder|You]] [[BlueSpike|do]] ''[[A-Logging|NOT]]'' [[Idea_Guys#Removal_from_power|want]] [[Michael Hirtes|to]] [[Isabella Loretta Janke|be]] [[Jacob Sockness|a part]] [[Affair with Mother|of Christory]].}}

[[File:PeenWeen.png|thumb|As foreseen, a mean keen [[Weening|ween]] by the name of [[Pickle|Peen]] seen looking for [[Transgender|Christine]].]]

On 27 [[March 2023]], [[Chris]] was [[Jail Saga#Bonded out or Released by court order|released from jail]], with the only explanation being ''"released by court order"''. Beginning that [[May 2023|May]], '''sightings of Chris''' were reported in the Midlothian region of Virginia, with some [[Weening|weens]] referring to this period as "the chase" as they attempt to gangstalk Chris.

==Spotted at Walmart==
[[Image:MidlothianWalmart.jpg|thumb|Midlothian Walmart branch]]

On 1 [[May 2023]], Chris was spotted shopping at a [[Walmart]] in {{w|Midlothian, VA|Midlothian}}, Virginia, a western suburb of Richmond in Chesterfield County.

On the same day, a [[Reddit]] user called DarylMcGoofyGuy posted a thread with a photo of Chris, claiming that a friend had sent the picture.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/1350b35/chris_sighting_at_a_walmart_a_friend_sent_me_this/</ref> On Twitter, more photos were posted by an account named Speedymctweet, again claiming a friend had sent them.<ref>https://twitter.com/Speedymctweet/status/1653131783897063425</ref> In the photos, Chris's [[hair]] has returned to its natural brown color, and he also appears thinner, congruent with his last mugshot. He also has a [[medallion|Sonichu medallion]], most likely a [[Medallions#Mark V|Mark V]] version.

<center><gallery>
File:CWC-Walmart-20230501 - 1.png|Photo uploaded by both DarylMcGoofyGuy and Speedymctweet, of Chris putting something in or taking something out of his cart.
File:CWC-Walmart-20230501 - 2.png|2nd photo uploaded by Speedymctweet, of Chris shopping.
File:CWC-Walmart-20230501 - 3.jpg|3rd photo uploaded by Speedymctweet, of Chris looking at what could be a shopping list.
File:CWC-Walmart-20230501 - 4.jpg|4th photo uploaded by Speedymctweet, of Chris in the Entertainment section.
</gallery></center>

Another Reddit user, Alternative_Roof1940, subsequently posted photos of Chris from the security cameras at the Walmart.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/1350yv5/chris_chan_at_my_local_walmart_not_a_drill/</ref>

<center><gallery>
Image:Midlothian_CCTV.png|Chris on CCTV
Image:Chris_Near_Checkout.jpg|Shot of Chris near the checkout
</gallery></center>

Alternative_Roof1940 also uploaded a brief video clip of Chris walking away outside of the store.

{{Infobox/video
| name = May 1, 2023
| video = {{#ev:youtube|tvvdJrpYbu8|800}}
| stardate = 1 [[May 2023]]
| subject =
}}

He also claimed:<ref>https://www.reddit.com/user/Alternative_Roof1940/comments/ ([https://archive.fo/oVp8W archive])</ref>

{{quoteboxgreen|Chris approached the electronic department asking for a flash drive and also ended up buying a [[Nintendo Switch|switch]] (yes......again). The second photo is from the electronics when he was asking}}

{{quoteboxgreen|There was a large black van chris got into about 8 stores down driven by a large black woman. I didn't take any photos of the vehicle for the sake of the woman driving}}

{{quoteboxgreen|No, there was no group. Chris was alone the entire time up until chris got into the car with 1 single person parked 8 stores away}}

The address of the Walmart was not revealed by any of the observers, but the exterior view shown in Alternative_Roof1940's video indicates that it is the location at 14501 Hancock Village St. This location happens to be 10 miles (16 km) by road from the main campus of [[Gateway Homes]], lending support to the hypothesis that Chris is residing there. Coincidentally, the Walmart is only 4 miles (6 km) from [[Manchester High School]], which Chris attended from 1996 to 2000.

==Spotted at Battlegrounds==
[[File:Gamestore2023.jpg|thumb|200px|[[:File:Chrischannov2007.jpg|Nothing has changed]].]]

On 2 May 2023, Chris was spotted playing cards at the game store Battlegrounds, also in Midlothian, around 11 miles north of Walmart he was shopping on May 1st and a half hour drive from his speculated Gateway Homes. The photo was posted by Euclid_Class_Object to Reddit on the same day presumably. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/1366xdf/chris_spotted_in_a_local_game_shop/#</ref>

Euclid Class Object sourced the photo from a member of the "Zodiac Duelist" Yu-Gi-Oh Facebook group.


On the 5th, Battlegrounds set their Facebook store page to private, most likely due to the [[Weening|weens]].

Chris was wearing the same [[Medallions#Mark V|Mark V medallion]] he was wearing in the Walmart photos.

==Spotted at Chesterfield Towne Center==
[[File:Chrischan-seen-in-public-v0-f7l8pasp6qxa1.png|thumb|left|200px|CWCfoot]]

On 3 May 2023, for the third time in a row, Chris was spotted outside a [[wikipedia:Donatos Pizza|Donatos Pizza]] at [[wikipedia:Chesterfield Towne Center|Chesterfield Towne Center]] in Chesterfield County. The photo was posted to Reddit by Pure_Lingonberry_677, who also claims his friend took the photo.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/13703h9/chrischan_seen_in_public/</ref>

This is the first sighting where Chris is aware that he is being photographed. Notably, Chris appears to be put off and even nervous, something uncharacteristic of him before the Jail Saga, though Chris could just be caught off-guard.

Also, the Sonichu medallion itself has also somehow turned its face towards the camera; whether this is due to Chris [[Sonichu's Edge|moving fast enough for the medallion]] [[Obesity|to bounce naturally off of Chris]], or that [[Magical thinking|the medallion itself is possessed by the same forces]] set to bring about the [[Dimensional Merge]] is uncertain.

{{clear}}

==Fan art==
<center><gallery>
Image:CWC 2023.jpeg|Artist's depiction of Chris on the run
Image:Return of CWC.jpeg|''Look who's back...''
Image:82ic0u6ubrxa1.png|Caught!
Image:TxyeB1ql.png|The rise of Ween-Mart
Image:Ydow809ej5ya1.png|Artist's depiction of the CWCfoot sighting
Image:CWC-EdBoySenpai (photoshopped).png|😱
Image:R2srik08dcya1.jpg|CWCptid hunting
Image:84n46ojaqlya1.png|What some expect to happen upon getting a photo of Chris.
</gallery></center>

==See also==
*[[Fan visits#DATSJUSTWATINEED2BUS]]

{{References}}
{{TheChaseSaga}}

Post-jail sightings (2023)

2023-05-07T22:01:03Z

Necromaster:

{{Ongoing}}
{{protip|We once again advise you to never directly engage with Chris. On the off-chance that you cross paths with Chris, the absolute ''most'' that you should do is [[Passive observers|get some kind of documentation of Chris, but never to directly engage with him]], but otherwise, leave Chris alone. To put it more bluntly: ''DO NOT'' attempt to stalk Chris upon seeing him, and ''NEVER'' speak to Chris in ''ANY'' way shape or form, or to anyone at his group home. [[Megan Schroeder|You]] [[BlueSpike|do]] ''[[A-Logging|NOT]]'' [[Idea_Guys#Removal_from_power|want]] [[Michael Hirtes|to]] [[Isabella Loretta Janke|be]] [[Jacob Sockness|a part]] [[Affair with Mother|of Christory]].}}

[[File:PeenWeen.png|thumb|As foreseen, a mean keen [[Weening|ween]] by the name of [[Pickle|Peen]] seen looking for Christine. Protip: '''Never fucking do this.''']]

On 27 [[March 2023]], [[Chris]] was [[Jail Saga#Bonded out or Released by court order|released from jail]], with the only explanation being ''"released by court order"''. Beginning that [[May 2023|May]], '''sightings of Chris''' were reported in the Midlothian region of Virginia, with some [[Weening|weens]] referring to this period as '''"the chase"''' as they attempt to gangstalk Chris.

==Spotted at Walmart==
[[Image:MidlothianWalmart.jpg|thumb|Midlothian Walmart branch]]

On 1 [[May 2023]], Chris was spotted shopping at a [[Walmart]] in {{w|Midlothian, VA|Midlothian}}, Virginia, a western suburb of Richmond in Chesterfield County.

On the same day, a [[Reddit]] user called DarylMcGoofyGuy posted a thread with a photo of Chris, claiming that a friend had sent the picture.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/1350b35/chris_sighting_at_a_walmart_a_friend_sent_me_this/</ref> On Twitter, more photos were posted by an account named Speedymctweet, again claiming a friend had sent them.<ref>https://twitter.com/Speedymctweet/status/1653131783897063425</ref> In the photos, Chris's [[hair]] has returned to its natural brown color, and he also appears thinner, congruent with his last mugshot. He also has a [[medallion|Sonichu medallion]], most likely a [[Medallions#Mark V|Mark V]] version.

<center><gallery>
File:CWC-Walmart-20230501 - 1.png|Photo uploaded by both DarylMcGoofyGuy and Speedymctweet, of Chris putting something in or taking something out of his cart.
File:CWC-Walmart-20230501 - 2.png|2nd photo uploaded by Speedymctweet, of Chris shopping.
File:CWC-Walmart-20230501 - 3.jpg|3rd photo uploaded by Speedymctweet, of Chris looking at what could be a shopping list.
File:CWC-Walmart-20230501 - 4.jpg|4th photo uploaded by Speedymctweet, of Chris in the Entertainment section.
</gallery></center>

Another Reddit user, Alternative_Roof1940, subsequently posted photos of Chris from the security cameras at the Walmart.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/1350yv5/chris_chan_at_my_local_walmart_not_a_drill/</ref>

<center><gallery>
Image:Midlothian_CCTV.png|Chris on CCTV
Image:Chris_Near_Checkout.jpg|Shot of Chris near the checkout
</gallery></center>

Alternative_Roof1940 also uploaded a brief video clip of Chris walking away outside of the store.

{{Infobox/video
| name = May 1, 2023
| video = {{#ev:youtube|tvvdJrpYbu8|800}}
| stardate = 1 [[May 2023]]
| subject =
}}

He also claimed:<ref>https://www.reddit.com/user/Alternative_Roof1940/comments/ ([https://archive.fo/oVp8W archive])</ref>

{{quoteboxgreen|Chris approached the electronic department asking for a flash drive and also ended up buying a [[Nintendo Switch|switch]] (yes......again). The second photo is from the electronics when he was asking}}

{{quoteboxgreen|There was a large black van chris got into about 8 stores down driven by a large black woman. I didn't take any photos of the vehicle for the sake of the woman driving}}

{{quoteboxgreen|No, there was no group. Chris was alone the entire time up until chris got into the car with 1 single person parked 8 stores away}}

The address of the Walmart was not revealed by any of the observers, but the exterior view shown in Alternative_Roof1940's video indicates that it is the location at 14501 Hancock Village St. This location happens to be 10 miles (16 km) by road from the main campus of [[Gateway Homes]], lending support to the hypothesis that Chris is residing there. Coincidentally, the Walmart is only 4 miles (6 km) from [[Manchester High School]], which Chris attended from 1996 to 2000.

==Spotted at Battlegrounds==
[[File:Gamestore2023.jpg|thumb|200px|[[:File:Chrischannov2007.jpg|Nothing has changed]].]]

On 2 May 2023, Chris was spotted playing cards at the game store Battlegrounds, also in Midlothian, around 11 miles north of Walmart he was shopping on May 1st and a half hour drive from his speculated Gateway Homes. The photo was posted by Euclid_Class_Object to Reddit on the same day presumably. <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/1366xdf/chris_spotted_in_a_local_game_shop/#</ref>

Euclid Class Object sourced the photo from a member of the "Zodiac Duelist" Yu-Gi-Oh Facebook group. The OP was seemingly unaware of Chris-Chan's status as a lolcow. Administrators of the Facebook group notified OP of Chris-Chan's situation and advised him to tell the Battlegrounds [[Manajerks|management]] so he can be [[List_of_places_that_have_banned_Chris|banned]]. <ref>[[:File:Chris_potentially_banned_from_Battlegrounds.png]]</ref>

{{quoteboxgreen|Forgot to say. An admin from the FB group suggested that OP should tell the store owners about Chris-Chan's situation so they might get banned from the store lol}}

On the 5th, Battlegrounds set their Facebook store page to private, most likely due to the [[Weening|weens]].

Chris was wearing the same [[Medallions#Mark V|Mark V medallion]] he was wearing in the Walmart photos.

==Spotted at Chesterfield Towne Center==
[[File:Chrischan-seen-in-public-v0-f7l8pasp6qxa1.png|thumb|left|200px|CWCfoot]]

On 3 May 2023, for the third time in a row, Chris was spotted outside a [[wikipedia:Donatos Pizza|Donatos Pizza]] at [[wikipedia:Chesterfield Towne Center|Chesterfield Towne Center]] in Chesterfield County. The photo was posted to Reddit by Pure_Lingonberry_677, who also claims his friend took the photo.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/13703h9/chrischan_seen_in_public/</ref>

This is the first sighting where Chris is aware that he is being photographed. Notably, Chris appears to be put off and even nervous, something uncharacteristic of him before the Jail Saga, though Chris could just be caught off-guard.

Also the Sonichu medallion itself has also somehow turned its face towards the camera; whether this is due to Chris [[Sonichu's Edge| moving fast enough for the it to bounce naturally]] or [[Health| (more likely)]] that [[Magical thinking| the medallion itself is possessed]] is uncertain.

{{clear}}

==Fan art==
<center><gallery>
Image:CWC 2023.jpeg|Artist's depiction of Chris on the run
Image:Return of CWC.jpeg|''Look who's back...''
Image:82ic0u6ubrxa1.png|Caught!
Image:TxyeB1ql.png|The rise of Ween-Mart
Image:Ydow809ej5ya1.png|Artist's depiction of the CWCfoot sighting
Image:CWC-EdBoySenpai (photoshopped).png|😱
Image:R2srik08dcya1.jpg|CWCptid hunting
</gallery></center>

{{References}}
{{TheChaseSaga}}

Talk:Chris and health

2023-04-13T19:37:37Z

Necromaster:

Hey we should add a "gallery of fatness" to the bottom of the page with pictures of his horrible fatness.--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 19:01, 23 July 2009 (CEST)
*That's not such a bad idea, I suppose. What would be best is if you could make them show how much he has ballooned over the years. [[User:Dormiebasne|Dormiebasne]] 21:20, 23 July 2009 (CEST)
**That is an even better idea--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 23:09, 23 July 2009 (CEST)
*** Damn, I wish he was one of those people who took a photo of himself once a day. Then we could make an animation. [[User:Dann Woolf|Dann Woolf]] 15:33, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Moved the gallery of hair. --[[User:Garfield|Garfield]] 03:14, 25 July 2009 (CEST)
*Cool!--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 16:50, 29 July 2009 (CEST)

In Kacey's recollection of her date with Chris, she mentioned how he would sweat profusely just by walking. Where in the article should I add that? --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 21:17, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

== Need to do ==
*Probably move the hair to Sonichu Girls or just make a new page for it, I think it warrants its own page because it also demonstrates MEXICAN SONICHU and poor Spanish
*Also, incorporate chris's coke habits (the drink) http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?n2bjtmemyyj [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 19:33, 29 September 2009 (CEST)

== Chris and Strength? ==

Chris seems to suffer form delusions that he's really strong and a good fighter. I'd go into more depth except that I'm not really strong nor a good fighter. All I know is that he's worse at both than me. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 06:26, 13 October 2009 (CEST)

== Weird section ==

The article currently says: "''Chris has probably never had any regular exercise since leaving high school, and the lack of physical activity has contributed to his already ballooning shape. It has also left his skin a frightening white that starkly contrasts to the dark background of his room while making videos.''" Now, I'm not a medical professional or anything, but I'm pretty sure exercise level doesn't have much to do with skin color. The second sentence should probably be moved or at least clarified.
*No, I think that's more or less sun. Trust me, if you can get him to push carts during the summer at some Wal-Mart or whatever, his skin'll look a million times better. Of course, we're talking about Chris, who thinks item stockers in retail are "heavyweights".--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 20:24, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
:*I have edited it as such:''"Since he barely leave his house and focus his time on playing videogames, his lack of exposure to the sunlight left his skin a frightening white that starkly contrasts to the dark background of his room while making videos."'' I hope it will please Mr. Anonymous... [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 20:35, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

==So when WAS the last time Chris took a shower?==
Seriously. What was the exact date of Chris's last shower? Considering how much he's divulged about his life it shouldn't be hard to aquire this information. [[User:Dann Woolf|Dann Woolf]] 13:30, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
:*It's not as simple as you think. First, Chris is not the type of camera-whore who would record this. Then, He's in [[Homos|straight]] denial about this as you can read it in the article. Personally, my out-of-nowhere guess would be once a week or when the itching would became impossible to endure. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 15:47, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
:** If a guy is said to be smelling like rotten watermelon or rotting fish in the sun, he's probably not even showering once a MONTH. Has anybody actually ASKED him? [[User:Dann Woolf|Dann Woolf]] 15:31, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
:***Do you think he would listen? Chris had learned over the years that making over-the-top claims and giving assurances of all sorts would allow him to avoid doing any action. So, if we ask him, be sure that he will repeat that he showers daily even if flies drop dead around him due to the stench. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:32, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
:****I've been brushing up on my psychology and according to Professor Jean M. Twenge of San Diego University in her book "The Narcissism Epidemic" It illustrates that Narcissists are extremely fragile to criticism and with his autism and child like personality it would be no surprise if chris chan has spent several months/days without showering (just look at that brownish crust on his neck) And I imagine that even if he does he probably doesn't shower thoroughly enough to get rid of his...err aroma.--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 18:01, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

==Is he in danger of developing diabetes?==

Its just speculation on my part but with a 60 ounces of coke a day habit and whatever other high sugar foods he is eating combined with his obesity as well as the possible hypertension make me wonder if he is at risk. [[User:Shawths|Shawths]]
* It's probably very possible. I mean, the sugar content in McDonald's is high, and in even a 330ml can of Coke (11fl oz. approx.) there is about 60% of an adult's daily sugar allowance.. Maybe if we try and get information from him that we can cross-reference to a list of diabetes symptoms, such as exceptional thirst, dry mouth and frequent urination. [[User_talk:Rubidium|37]] [[User:Rubidium|'''Rb''']] [[Special:Contributions/Rubidium|85.468]] 17:21, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
** Could I maybe send him a letter leading him on to list any of these symptoms in operation Mailbag?[[User:Shawths|Shawths]]
*** Chris is at high risk for pretty much everything that obesity can cause.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:46, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
**** Chris is at a higher risk for everything he ignores. Right now, I still think he's on a higher risk of suffering a bad case of staph infection than anything else. He got no notion of hygiene, his immune system is crushed by his lifestyle and he's living in a dump. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 07:31, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
*****Forget staph; he's at risk for freaking leprosy. [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 08:37, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
*It wouldn't be surprising if he had diabetes already. Have you seen his complexion? Early age spots are a possible sign of diabetes and that combined with the fact that he gets tired easily makes me believe that he might already have diabetes. PS I'm a newfag with wikis so I hope this works.
** Protip. Sign your comments by putting <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your comment, so we all know you are AFK4Life. [[User_talk:Rubidium|37]] [[User:Rubidium|'''Rb''']] [[Special:Contributions/Rubidium|85.468]] 09:34, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
*** The reason I suggested a letter was so that we could get a confirmation about the liklyhood of him having diabetes. Although it is probably true. [[User:Shawths|Shawths]] 10:25, 26 Febuary 2010 (UTC)
****This will fail in two distinctive ways; not only he barely take notice of the unpleasant letters in the mailbags but he's also certain that he's the living example of what a healthy man looks like. This being said, I will take great pleasure in knowing he would have to stab himself with a syringe again and again due to a disease caused by his fat ass. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:10, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
***** However, considering that Chris is more interested in spending his tugboat money on video games and sex toys, it's more likely that he will fall into a diabetic coma because he didn't want to spend the money on urgent medical supplies. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 17:19, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
****** I will have to disagree with you on this. I am ready to bet that the moment Chris will need insulin or any other medication, not only the said medication will be brought to him freely by the glorious state of Virginia but he will also be followed by a social worker. We have to include the fact that Chris took medication before. In the [[Autism papers]], it is mentioned that he took paxil for four years. So, yes, he can follow a regiment of drugs. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 21:26, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

That's another thing that bothers me--why was he on Paxil? I hear that it treats two things--depression and excessive urination. Either way I want to know what prompted it.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:34, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
* Interestingly enough, paxil has been known in some paitents to cause outbursts of anger: http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=19&m=203440
:It is mainly prescribed to treat depression, but is also occasionally prescribed to individuals who complain of extreme stress. It is possible that the lumberjack and snorlax got Chris a prescription thinking it would mellow him out, or it may be that Chris has been very depressed and the paxil was specifically prescribed to him for his depression. Considering his goals in life, and his chances of achieving them, it is quite likely (even with Chris's limited mental foresight) that he has realized that his goals are almost certainly unachievable, and thus he is depressed. [[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 18:25, 14 June 2010 (EST)
::It is interesting to see when Chris started taking paxil. If we refer ourselves to the Autism paper (Circa 2004), it tells us that the ManChild was on that medication for the last 4 years. This bring us to the end of his High-School years and his enrolment at the PVCC. There's a possibility that it was suggested to Chris's parents to put him on meds to help him with the transition from one setting to another. After all, autistics love patterns and the loss of those patterns can cause stress and bouts of 'Tard-Rage. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 02:21, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

== Inability to Recognize Faces ==

I think it should be mentioned that the inability to recognize faces is a very common trait of Autism. The fact that Chris cannot recognize faces confirmed (to me) that he definitely has a form of autism before those psychiatric evaluations were released.

Also, a lack of smell-sensory is another symptom of autism. This is definitely far from the only reason that Chris never showers, and not all Autistic people lack a sense of smell, but still I thought I should mention it.(Wiki newfag here; I hope this works.) --[[User:Windyshoot|Windyshoot]] 09:02, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

At first,I read inability to recognize feces. LOL! --[[User:Kawaiidesubakachan|Kawaiidesubakachan]] 02:14, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Im autistic and i remember faces more than names.[[user:MrMaXimo|MrMaXimo]] 12:45, 28 2010 (PST)

A lack of facial recognition is fairly common, or facial confusion. I believe it tends to be more of an issue for quick introductions, though, not anyone who there's been an extended interaction with. The second part is, however, just my own experience with the 'sperg and should NOT be taken as a universal.[[User:Zekedms|Zekedms]] 19:42, 23 February 2011 (PST)

== Chris's obesity ==

In response to to how much weight chris gained during his apearence in the pimp my ride video, someone in the talk section asked for a comparison between chris's breast and those of a big chested woman. after combining the image below i noticed that chris has gained so much weight that his man-boobs have become massive. what i'm trying to ask is if the image could be included in the chris and obesity section. [[User:MoarLurk]]
[[file:Compare.jpg|300px|right]]

:I made that image with pretty much that purpose. Also if you notice, chris's boobs are bigger.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 22:05, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
::I suspect that Chris has a hormonal imbalance. Even with his corpulent physique, his breasts are disproportionately large, and his nipples look like pepperonis. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 22:07, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
:::That's exactly what he has. This is typical of gynecomastia. [[User:Hamsterjelly|Hamsterjelly]] 06:24, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
:::The though of Chris's nipples...cannot unsee.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 22:14, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
::::We have pictures of them, remember? We've seen the man screwing a blow-up doll. How can his nipples be close to that disturbance? --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 16:51, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Anything involving the naked body of that man is of the deepest bowels of hell or Rhyel.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 17:08, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

== Hormonal imbalance ==
i've beggining to suspect that chris suffers from hormonal imbalance, it would explain his high pitched voice and the overgrown mantits and acne at that age. Poor hygiene can explian the acne a bit. Obesity can explain the mantits, but to Chris's level, it has to be the hormones, I think he has an exess of strogen in his system.--[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 04:46, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

:*Disclaimer: I am not a doctor. ... but it could be testosterone. My understanding is that the human body can only tolerate so much testosterone; any excess is converted into estrogen (or oestrogen). Given that in addition to his [[Collosal|Collosal Chris Chan]] manboobs Chris appears to display uncontrollable bouts of anger ("Shouting loud enough to wake the dead" over a slightly overpriced cup of coffee), has great difficulty keeping his hands [[Kacey|off]] [[Megan|women]], constantly obsesses about sex and generally acts like a horny 16 year old when he's 28 seems to suggest that, perhaps, he has a large amount of testosterone in his system and the excess is being turned into estrogen. An outside observer with absolutely no idea who Chris is might even suggest steroid abuse (before anyone jumps in with 'but Chris is weak!', steroids don't make you STRONG, they're just basically horse urine which is huge amounts of testosterone. It bulks you up a great deal, but if you take steroids and don't work out, you get really fat and get huge mantits). It's times like these I wish the mailbags were still going, so we could ask Chris directly if he was taking steroids. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 05:01, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

::*I'm sure there may be a hormonal imbalance, but I think the cause may well be Klinefelter's. Chris-Chan fits a fair amount of the general symptoms, and I'm surprised it hasn't been further investigated. Small/malformed penis and testicles, slowly developing and altogether missing male secondary sex characteristics, the extremely high voice, the suggestions of gender confusion and sexual orientation difficulties, not to mention the prominent breasts. Those are developed much more than one would expect for someone at his fitness level, despite how low it is. Of course, since nobody's bothering to run fertility tests on him, confirmation on such a thing would be VERY difficult. But at this point, XXY makes more sense to me than anything.[[User:Zekedms|Zekedms]] 03:56, 20 February 2011 (PST)

:::No. He grows facial hair easily, and the associated hypogonadism means lower decreased testicular hormone/endocrine function, not smaller genitals. His obesity and autism explain pretty much all of his symptoms. Chris's voice isn't especially high, except when he freaks out. [[User:Eamoo|Eamoo]] 12:44, 20 February 2011 (PST)

::::No, it isn’t Klinefelter's. It’s already been addressed in detail in one of the speculation topics, so to spare a TLDR I’ll be brief. Not only is there no evidence pointing to it, but his phenotype is incompatible with the condition. His integumentary problems: his acne & bad complexion, androgenic baldness, fat distribution pattern(fat in the gut first is a testosterone induced thing), shows that his body has no shortage of testosterone. Since he has that much fat, some of it is bound to go and cause manboobs, that’s pretty much like any guy will get when they cross over to obesity.(The fat means more horomones & some of the exess T will be converted to estrogen, but obviously not enough to overpower the testosterone turned DHT's effect on his skin& hair) Also since the latest molecular research into autism shows that estrogen acts as a promoter for several genes that are linked to protecting against autism while testosterone methilates them, it’s unlikely Chris has ever been estrogen dominant, and it’s likely he was exposed to too much testosterone in utero. It’s not <del>Lupus</del> Klinefelter's.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 21:25, 21 February 2011 (PST)

==Wes Iseli==

This article mentioned an non-sourced comment from Wes Iseli about Chris's funk during his PVCC days. I know it's not an official statement, but does any one know where or who that came from? ---[[User:ConCat|ConCat]] 17:17, 28 August 2010 (PDT)

== WeighIn ==

Should we add the new information about his weight we learned from this new video? We should also probably add something about why he must weigh 216 despite having the body we all see. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 16:31, 26 October 2010 (PDT)

== Page Blanked? ==

Why did youdonttellmewhattodo blank the page? Is he trying to troll us, or is there an actual reason for this?--[[User:Rena-kun|others > ;0; ;0; ;0; ^-^ < Rena-kun (me)]] 20:05, 17 July 2011 (PDT)

== Klinefelter ==

Could it be that Chris also suffers from the conditition known as Klinefelter Syndrome?
He has many of the symptoms:
*Unnatural large breasts
*Narrow bones
*Weak muscles
*Small genitalia
*High-pitched voice
*Little body and facial hair
*(Mild?) mental retardation (or, at the very least, below-average intelligence)
*Small hands and feet
*Obesity
I think it's pretty likely Chris has this discease. Maybe on top of other things, but it would explain a lot of his physical characteristiscs and behaviour I'd say. [[User:Charles|Charles]] 02:39, 29 November 2011 (PST)

== Broken source ==
The link to the first source seems to be broken, Chris' email responses in the linked "mailbag" are definitely not from Chris.--[[User:Lylelash|Lylelash]] 18:41, 23 April 2012 (PDT)

== When was the last time Chris went to a doctor? ==

Seriously. He's obese,rarely showers, most likely doesn't brush his teeth, and lives in a house infested with bugs that left Bob covered in so many bites he had to be hospitalized. The aforementioned might happen to live off blood, and could pass on diseases to hosts. It's highly unlikely that he has been vaccinated recently as he would rather stay home and play video games (considering Chris rarely leaves his house, however, this might not be too big of a problem), possible vitamin D deficiency from going outside, and unless Chris used protection, he may have an STD. How can any doctor allow this?--[[User:Germanicus|Germanicus]] 19:22, 11 May 2012 (PDT)
:While 1) this isn't a forum... 2) Chris has not been giving out information about his life like he used to (or that we know of)... so as far as we KNOW, it was when he was "with" Kacey. He talked about going to the doctor quite a bit while emailing/phoning Kasey. The first time when he had to take some stress meds and his doctor took him off, and then he found out he was 206lbs, the other when he talked about his penis size and how to enhance it.... and another time when he said he had an appointment. I think he probably does get check-ups once in a while..but all he'd have to do is brush his teeth and shower before going and that'd be good enough to disguise a lot of what's going on. He's the only one that lives on his floor, and he rarely leaves his room, any bugs that may have lived with Bob or Barb probably don't hitch a ride with him to produce the number bites Bob had.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 19:36, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

== Shower ==

Should it be noted of the poor condition his shower is in? Even in the tiny glance of the reference picture? I wouldn't want to shower in a place that likely had mold, though if it were me, I wouldn't have let it get to that point in the first place! --[[User:SerenityMoonstone|SerenityMoonstone]] 23:25, 15 May 2012 (EDT)

== Chris's hatred toward psychotherapy ==

I've been wondering why Chris acts so damn hostile towards therapists. Is it due to his ego, or maybe something else? [[User:Steampunk Mage|Steampunk Mage]] ([[User talk:Steampunk Mage|talk]]) 20:14, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

*Probably a mix between ego, lack of theory of mind and his victim complex. He blames everyone except himself for his problems, so he has no desire to want to fix his issues. Also, he might have a slightly better outlook on therapy now, since he's seen shrinks over the past few years - he had to go to a therapy group after he maced someone, and he saw a shrink specializing in LGBT issues in order to get the gender marker on his driver's license altered. A lot of the stuff he's been saying lately sounds like it was copied from a therapy session. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 00:23, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

== Schizophrenia ==

I have a feeling that Chris might be suffering from Schizophrenia, a chronic and severe mental disorder that affects how a person thinks, feels, and behaves, and Chris has been exhibiting telltale signs of it long before, such as his [[Chris and health#Hygiene|declining hygiene]], [[Mary Lee Walsh|visual hallucinations]], [[Chris's room|withdrawal from friends, family and society]], [[Chris and reality|loss of contact with reality]], [[Stress|lack of focus and motivation]], and [[Biological clock|disorganized sleep schedule]]. Some particular risk factors include being born to older parents (and an [[Bob Chandler|older father]] in particular); as well as having a family history of similar mental illnesses.

{{quotebox|According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition, (DSM-5), to meet the criteria for diagnosis of schizophrenia, the patient must have experienced at least 2 of the following symptoms:

A. Two (or more) of the following, each present for a significant portion of time during a 1-month period (or less if successfully treated):

(1) [[Greene County Conspiracy|delusions]]

(2) [[Sonichu (character)|hallucinations]]

(3) [[Chris and English|disorganized speech]] (e.g., frequent derailment or [[Random-Access Humor|incoherence]])

(4) [[Fridays After Five|grossly disorganized]] or catatonic behavior

(5) negative symptoms, i.e., affective flattening, [[Speech impediment|alogia]], or [[Stress|avolition]]

'''Note''': At least two of the five symptoms must be present for at least one month. One of the two symptoms must be '''delusions''', '''hallucinations''', or '''disorganized speech'''.

B. Social/occupational dysfunction: For a significant portion of the time since the onset of the disturbance, one or more major areas of functioning such as [[Wendy's|work]], [[Borb|interpersonal relations]], or [[Chris and health|self-care]] are markedly below the level achieved prior to the onset (or when the onset is in childhood or adolescence, failure to achieve expected level of interpersonal, academic, or occupational achievement).

C. Duration: Continuous signs of the disturbance persist for at least 6 months. This 6-month period must include at least 1 month of symptoms (or less if successfully treated) that meet Criterion A (i.e., active-phase symptoms) and may include periods of prodromal or residual symptoms. During these prodromal or residual periods, the signs of the disturbance may be manifested by only negative symptoms or two or more symptoms listed in Criterion A present in an attenuated form (e.g., odd beliefs, unusual perceptual experiences).

D. Schizoaffective and mood disorder exclusion: Schizoaffective disorder and mood disorder with psychotic features have been ruled out because either (1) no major depressive, manic, or mixed episodes have occurred concurrently with the active-phase symptoms; or (2) if mood episodes have occurred during active-phase symptoms, their total duration has been brief relative to the duration of the active and residual periods.

E. Substance/general medical condition exclusion: The disturbance is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse, a medication) or a general medical condition.

F. Relationship to a [[Autism|pervasive developmental disorder]]: If there is a history of autistic disorder or another pervasive developmental disorder, the additional diagnosis of schizophrenia is made only if prominent delusions or hallucinations are also present for at least a month (or less if successfully treated).}}
[[User:Makuchi|Makuchi]] ([[User talk:Makuchi|talk]]) 20:57, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

== The "heart attack" and making new section on Chris exaggerating health problems ==

Chris's description of the "heart attack" and page 11 from [[Sonichu 14]] shows that he had really just had heartburn or something. This isn't the first time Chris has exaggerated his health problems - he also claimed to have torn ligaments in his knee once but was walking around fine. So I think we should remove the heart attack statement from Cardio Health and make a new section on Exaggerated health problems. Are there any other examples of him doing this? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 23:28, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
:I remember reading somebody on the Farms mention a time that Chris claimed to have torn a ligament, yet posted a video of himself walking down the street a few days later. This would have been about August 2017, if memory serves. I have no primary source, however, and searching ''ligament'' here for a video or social media transcript gives nothing. A section about Chris' general knowledge of health, which could include exaggerated claims of illness as well as self-medicating (e.g. the belly fat videos, smearing his mum's oestrogen cream over himself), his [[Recycling|beliefs about the human body]] and even his obliviousness about his parents' conditions over the years, might be a better idea. [[User:ChanOfTartary|ChanOfTartary]] ([[User talk:ChanOfTartary|talk]]) 00:38, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

:Added the source for the ligament info to the [[Misc texts]] page. What were the belly fat videos? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 01:04, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

== Effects of Jail Saga on Chris's health? (as well as cleaning up this discussion section) ==

Ok so the Jail Saga has obviously effected Chris's physical and mental well being (with the final mugshot looking especially grim) should there be a section on the topic? Also this discussion section is full of stuff that's allready been put in or seriously out of date should I clean it up? [[User:Necromaster| Necromaster]] ([[User talk:Necromaster|talk]]) 16:53 11 April 2023 (EDT)

:Is there much we could say about how it affected him? The mugshot clearly shows he lost some weight, and he does look out of it. What else do you have in mind to add? Also about the talk page, might as well just leave it as is. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 23:11, 11 April 2023 (EDT)

:Well apart from his complete loss of sanity as demonstrated with his seudo-schizophrenic messiah complex there are a couple more things that are quite noteworthy. First is that his inner shirt looks noticeably yellowish suggesting that he's not been nearly as clean as he's been claiming (white cotton shirts like that turn yellowish due to the user wearing it constantly since sweat and dead skin cells begin to soak in), second is his horrifically atrophied right arm suggesting he has been doing litterally nothing with it for months on end. [[User:Necromaster| Necromaster]] ([[User talk:Necromaster|talk]]) 15:56 13 April 2023 (EDT)

Talk:Chris and health

2023-04-11T20:53:05Z

Necromaster:

Chris and race

2023-02-20T00:07:17Z

Necromaster:

{{Honest}}

{{quote|I never really had anything against, uh, race or people, I never really did... I have nothing against black people or anyone else of other countries.|[[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] while talking to [[BraveryJerk Interviews|BraveryJerk]] in [[2016]], in spite of previous questionable depictions of race in his comics and videos.}}

[[Image: Niggocwc.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris in [[Song_for_Jackie.MOV]], [[manipulated]] into putting on blackface.]]

The '''race''' of people is often considered a sensitive topic, a poor match for [[Chris]], with his [[Autism|lack of social tact and tendency to take pop culture stereotypes literally]]. While Chris doesn't seem to hold deeply bigoted views or have irrational hatred toward people that aren't white (or at least not on the same level as his views on [[homos|homosexuals]], [[Asperger's|people with Asperger's Syndrome]], and [[JERKS]]) he has been remarkably tone-deaf when talking about, or portraying, minorities in his comics and videos. The [[Miscreants]] group of trolls used race as ammo to mock and [[manipulate]] Chris.

==Chris and stereotypes==
Chris's views of other cultures can also be traced to the television he watches, such as the typical [[Adult Swim]] cartoon which includes gratuitous use of stereotype-based humor.

===Blacks===
[[File:Nodarkies.JPG|thumb|Chris approved of this pic, and said he liked it.<ref>[[:File:Chrisreply1evan.png]]</ref>]]

Chris has been widely considered to be racist against black people since it was learned that his highly specific criteria for a [[sweetheart]] include whiteness and specifically excludes blackness.<ref>[[Attraction Sign]]</ref><ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate May 22nd, 2009|"Captain's Log, Stardate May 22nd, 2009"]]</ref><ref>In [[IRC (17 December 2008)]], he was asked to describe all the races he would date and he answered, "all but black."</ref> Chris tells this not only to trolls, but to black [[boyfriend-free girls]] in real life, that they do not "meet his standard criteria for a female companion" to their faces.<ref>[[Autism papers|Chris's Psychiatric Examination]]</ref>

His stated reason for not being interested in black women is that his dream-prophecy of [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]] shows her to be white, which means her mother must be white as well.

Trolls quickly coined the phrase "No darkies" as a quick summary of Chris's criteria for a Boyfriend free girl, much to his chagrin<ref>[[Sonichu Fan Promo]]</ref> – even though he previously approved of a notable piece of fan art with the phrase included prominently. This is essentially accurate; for example, on Chris's profile at [[The Hook Cafe|''The HooK'' Café]] he says that "[[Tobacky|smokers]], [[obesity|overweights]], blacks, and [[Chris and hypocrisy|liars]] need not apply."

On the less-discriminatory side, Chris also has stated that he doesn't hate men who have black girlfriends, and doesn't consider them [[JERKS]], so Chris may think it'll increase his chances of finding a white boyfriend-free girl.

Some teenaged black kids frequented [[The GAMe PLACe]]. Chris picked on them and acted like they wanted to steal from him, hiding his stuff when they were nearby.<ref>[[Mimms]]' [https://web.archive.org/web/20090620070812/http://cogsdev.110mb.com/pvcc/viewtopic.php?p=16855 archived post] on [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC]]</ref> The official reason Chris got banned permanently from The GAMe PLACe was getting into a shouting match with one of these children.

Chris also once argued with a huge black guy named TJ while playing [[Yu-Gi-Oh]]. When they started talking about how Chris would never get laid, Chris yelled, "I'm going to smack your effing face down!" As TJ stood up like he was going to beat Chris's ass, Chris shrunk and whimpered "I mean your face down monster...."<ref>[[Mimms]]' [https://web.archive.org/web/20090621132756/http://cogsdev.110mb.com/pvcc/viewtopic.php?p=17281 archived post] on [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC]]</ref>

He does an impression of the stereotypical black accent, which he apparently confuses with the Jamaican accent, in [[Mumble 4]].

When Chris talked on the phone to [[Jackie]]'s boyfriend [[Lars]], he tried to bridge the gap between their different races by speaking in Ebonics, including referring to himself as a "nigga" (although ''not'' as a "[[niggo]]") and making statements like, "I enjoy the TV shows I get from the, from the black man, including [[Wikipedia:The Jeffersons|''The Jeffersons'']], and [[Wikipedia:Bill Cosby|Bill Cosby]], and [[Wikipedia:Sanford and Son|''Sanford and Son'']], all a' them."<ref>[[Lars Call]]</ref>

On 27 [[June 2012]], Chris posted in [[Facebook]] a photo of a black woman at McDonald's who he said discriminated against him, and demanded people not go there, and if they do to "throw newspaper in the damn old bitchy, black woman's face!!!"<ref>[[June 2012 Facebook posts]]</ref>

In 2014, when Chris was infatuated with [[Catherine]], he had a romantic rival by the name of [[Colin]]; he sent a message describing the light shining off of Colin's head in a photo as "poo light."<ref>[[Colin Chat 1]]</ref>

In 2016, Chris was asked by [[BraveryJerk]] what his opinion on the Black Lives Matter movement was. Chris seemingly had never heard of the movement, saying "Uhhh, Black Li – I have not heard of that. Well…Black Lives Matter. It sounds like it’s…uh…maybe people, black people are, sounds like they’re having trouble? But I feel…that, you know, to help any person in general, regardless of race or whatever. I mean, I’m for…the,uh…Black Lives forever."<ref>https://youtu.be/LTtBLPH350w?t=547</ref>

===Asians===
{{Main|Japanophilia}}

In the [[Sonichu (comic)|comics]], Chris portrays [[Punchy Sonichu]] as a [[CWC Fighter|kung fu]] master with [[Wikipedia:Epicanthic fold|slanty eyes]], raised in a dojo. When a fan criticized this stereotyping, Chris claimed that Punchy was "NOT of Asian origin".<ref>[[Mailbag 6]]</ref> Outside of the comic, Chris also misattributes the origin of kung fu to Japan, when in actuality it comes from [[China]]. He does a racist impression of a Chinese person, and claims Japanese and Chinese people sound the same.<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3.5]]</ref> In a [[Katie Bay E-mails|leaked series of e-mails]], it is shown that Chris simply does not seem to know that China and Japan are not the same, as he calls the Japanese account Chinese, failing to realize that they are separate countries with different governments, languages, writing systems and currencies.

In [[Chris Calls Clyde Out]], Chris pretends to be [[Clyde Cash]] while doing an imitation of an Asian accent. This is presumably a reference to Clyde's Asian ancestry.<ref>[[Mumble 2]]</ref>

In his real-life dealings, Chris seems to have a positive or at least a neutral view toward Asians. He has stated that he would not exclude Asian women from his [[Love Quest]], and at one point [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#Eating Spaghetti (36:49 - 38:54)|believed Emily to be part-Asian]].

[[Manajerks|"Turdijerk"]] from "Off-Target" has a vaguely South Asian appearance and the name may also be based on a stereotype of an Indian accent.

===Native Americans===
{{main|Cherokian Clan}}
[[Image:02-Cheroki-Chan Card2.jpg|thumb|left| This has something to do with Native Americans. No, really. (Note [[Semen|the typo]].)]]
As stated in the main article, despite claiming to have at least one [[Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan|Cherokee ancestor]], Chris is completely ignorant of Native American culture. However, unlike other minorities, Chris's opinions and representation of Native Americans are a misguided expression of "pride" for his "heritage".

In [[Sonichu 2|''Sonichu'' #2]]: [[Sonichu 2#Episode 7: Sonichu in "Anchuent Prophecy"|Episode 7]], Chris tries to tie in his "[[Cherokian]]" heritage with ''Sonichu'' lore. He depicts [[Wikipedia:Cherokee|Cherokee]] characters in his work as white-skinned and blue-eyed, and wearing Ancient Roman-style armor ([[Wikipedia:Joseph Smith|Joseph Smith]] would be proud). The [[Wasabi Clan]] unsurprisingly also bear no resemblance to Native Americans.

Chris has also embodied his ignorance of Native American culture in a physical form. For a brief time, Chris blurred his gender roles and began to collect and customize ''[[My Little Pony]]'' dolls. One of the dolls he crafted was the infamous "Cheroki-Chan", a Native American pony clearly based upon himself. While there is nothing overtly racist about this abomination, it is probably not how Native Americans want to be represented. In the end Cheroki-Chan is just another Mary Sue for Chris, and pales in comparison to Chris's most infamous portrayal of Native Americans.

Chris attempted to emulate what he perceives as "Native American culture" in a [[War Paint Video]]. In this video Chris wears water-washable paint (and a "[[muscle bra]]") and wields a plastic gun in an attempt to frighten trolls into submission. True Cherokee historically wore breechcloths and leggings most of the time prior to adopting modern styles, and there is little evidence to suggest they owned muscle bras. They also notably did not go to war with toy guns, but instead with bows and arrows, which Chris [[I AM STRONG|lacks the strength]] to use.

===Jews===
{{quote|I hope that God will forgive you for being so heartless and cruel Michael Snyder!... JEW!|Chris, [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|demonstrating his boundless empathy for religious minorities]]}}

Near the beginning of Chris's [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|unsuccessful attempt]] in April 2010 to be unbanned from the [[The GAMe PLACe]], he casually pointed out that Michael Snyder was probably Jewish, using his last name as a point of reference ("Snyder" is a common Dutch surname meaning "tailor". It happens to be similar to the German surname "Schneider", which is sometimes used by Jews). After failing to convince Snyder to lift the ban, Chris angrily called him a Jew and bolted out of the store. In a later video ([[Greene County Conspiracy|100 2178]]), Chris appears to restrain himself from calling Snyder a "greedy Jew". In an email to Katie Bay, he refers to Snyder as a "son of a bitch Jew" and a "pigheaded, stubborn Jew".<ref>[[Katie Bay E-mails 2]]</ref> This probably is moreso a misguided attempt to mimic [[South Park#Chris fails to grasp South Park|Eric Cartman]] than the result of any deep-seated anti-Semitism.

Chris finally apologized for insulting Michael on 31 [[March 2018]], after a [[CWC Ancestry|23andme test]] showed that he himself had 0.1% Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry. He characterized this as a "surprise."<ref>[https://archive.md/NR1Vv]</ref> As of 2020 his 23andme results no longer include Jewish ancestry.<ref>[[:File:DNA test.JPG]]</ref>

Funnily enough according to Chris's [[List of Chris's Adam & Eve purchases]] he had purchased "Nina Hartley's guide to sex toys", a pornographic video staring the titular porn star who just so happened to be a Jewish Atheist. Whether Chris knew or cared about the fact he was [[Mass Debating]] to a woman who's race/ beliefs he showed such a prejudice to remains unknown.

===Hispanics===
[[File:455-EspanolicAndVegaton.JPG|thumb|left|Espanolic and Vegaton, the only [[Pokémon]] lazier than [[Snorlax]].]]

Aside from his rather tenuous grasp on the [[Spanish]] language, Chris has created a somewhat racist caricature in the form of [[List of cards from The Wall of Originals|Espanolic]]. It's a Grass-type [[Pokémon]] that resembles an anthropomorphized [[Wikipedia:Sombrero|sombrero]] in front of what appears to be the flag of [[Wikipedia:Flag of Bolivia|Bolivia]] or [[Wikipedia:Flag of Ghana|Ghana]], and its main attack is confusing its enemies with its "strange language". Its evolved form, Vegaton, has an attack called "[[Wikipedia:Spanish fly|Spanish Fly]]", that puts its enemies to sleep.

Hilariously enough, [[Nintendo]] would later create similar Pokémon named Lombre and Ludicolo, which, despite being obvious stereotypes, were handled far more tactfully than Chris could hope to do.

So far, the only Hispanic character in the comics is [[Heather Iglesias]], the [[Homos|lesbian]] nanny of [[Sonichu and Rosechu's children]], and then Chris's <s>self-cest</s> children. Chris is probably trying to be inclusive here, but he isn't creative or intelligent enough to think of anything besides a stereotypical occupation for Hispanic women. It also does not help her sentences are random mixes of Spanish and English – and no, not by throwing in a random word or two of Spanish into her sentences, but switching from English phrases to Spanish midway in her sentences (which appear to be Google-Translated).

It is worth noting that Chris sometimes refers to people of Latin American descent as "Spanish". This is not unheard of, especially among [[Bob|older generations]], but it is much less common that the terms "Hispanic" or "Latino".

Chris has shown in the past a willingness to [[Joshua Martinez|befriend]] and [[Lori Lopez|date]] Hispanics.

===Indians===

When TheGamerFromMars took Chris out to eat at an Indian restaurant during the filming of [[The Chris Chan Conspiracy]], Chris [[Random Access Humor|blurted out one-liners]] from [[The Simpsons]] character Apu (''complete with the stereotypical Indian accent''), much to the embarrassment and disapproval of his hosts. Despite that, Chris insisted on belting out another "Welcome to Kwik-E-Mart!" line before they sat down to eat, [[Autism|oblivious to the fact that he could have offended somebody.]]

===Other white ethnicities/cultures===
Chris has not shown outright malevolence towards other white cultures, but is often ignorant of their customs and nations. In [[Tito Got No Luck Against We Brits, Irish and Scots!]], Chris plays an Irish song while wearing a kilt and pretending to be Scottish, then mentions a [[Wikipedia:Shillelagh_(club)|shillelagh]].

Chris has an extremely basic idea on eastern Europe and Russia; [[Sylvana]] was given a supposedly Russian accent midway through the comic for no discernable reason (although the way it was written made it look like a German accent instead).

==Troll manipulation==
{{quote|[giggling] No, say "niggers", you stupid twat.|[[BlueSpike]] to Chris.<ref>[[Julie Reveals Herself]]</ref>}}

In the [[Julie Reveals Herself]] call, [[BlueSpike]] coerced Chris into saying "niggers"; Chris attempted to substitute [[niggos]] instead, but BlueSpike insisted and Chris gave in. The term niggos became an infamous [[CWC-ism]].

Chris called [[Surfshack Tito]] a nigger on video<ref>[[Chris Drops the N-Bomb]]</ref> and in email.<ref>[[Surfshack Tito E-mails]]</ref> Notably, he never used the term in this context either before or after his interaction with Tito, who is not even depicted as being a black person, suggesting Chris was [[manipulated]] by trolls behind the scenes into using the word.

In [[Jackie E-mails 14]], sweetheart [[Jackie]] asked Chris [[Song for Jackie.MOV|to dress up as Mr. Popo]] on video - a character from [[Dragon Ball]] with black skin, red lips and a turban - while singing "You ain't seen no Saiyans on the fiddle, / No Saiyans on the fiddle like this." Chris complied, though he was aware the costume would appear like blackface and placed a disclaimer stating that "this video presentation is NOT meant to make fun of the Blacks or the Hindus."

During the [[Idea Guy]] saga Chris was manipulated into [[Chris and fashion| dressing up as a gopnik]] (bottle of vodka included) while spouting the phrase "A nu cheeki breeki" and "Davai" over and over again (in reference to the stalker games which Joshua was obsessed with), although like many things during that saga the whole meme probably flew completely over Chris's head and actually was led to believe that the chant was Cherokean instead.

==Not a racist?==
[[Image:ECP 00024.jpg|thumb|left|Chris being a [[niggo|wiggo]].]]
{{quote|And I am NOT racist, and I like Jews.|Chris, in response to a [[Mailbag_6#Rejected_Mailbag|rejected mailbag]] email}}

{{quote|Blacks [...] are good people too.|Chris, in the [[Song_for_Jackie.MOV|disclaimer for his Mr. Popo video]]}}

Chris does not want to be considered a racist. He claims to respect blacks as equals, saying that in CWCville "they can even vote". Or if they can [[Reggie Fils-Aimé|help him get his inane and idiotic video game made]]. He also genuinely likes two black actors: [[My big 18th party (story)|Kenan & Kel]].

He did mention more than once that the reason he doesn't want black girls (but any other race is okay) is because he thinks God told him that his future daughter Crystal must be white, too. In an [[IRC (17 December 2008)|IRC]], Chris said he has no problem with dating an Asian. Later, in [[Mailbag 35]], he wrote he would date "Asian, Native or Hispanic women, as well as women of all other countries" (except the ones being black).

==Chris's ethnic background==
{{Wise|he is part black and part Jewish.<ref>[[Discord Q&A 7]]</ref>}}

[[File:DNA test.JPG|thumb|500px|Chris's updated 23andMe results as of 11 October 2020.]]
[[File:Ancestry composition1.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris's original results which convinced him he was Jewish.]]
Influenced by his parents' claims, Chris has long asserted that he is of primarily [[Daniel Weston|English]] descent, with some [[Cherokian Clan|Cherokee]] heritage on Bob's side and some French heritage on Barb's. However, in March 2018, the [[Idea Guys]] had Chris apply for a DNA test from 23andMe to determine his ancestry,<ref>[[March 2018 social media posts#Apology to jewish people]]</ref> which showed that he was of 100% European genetic background, with slightly over half of this being British and most of the rest from across Northwestern Europe. The test also indicated that Chris had a trace amount (less than 0.1%) of Ashkenazi ("ash-KEN-azi") Jewish ancestry. Chris was also led to believe that he had black ancestry because his paternal haplogroup lineage, like all human lineages, began in Africa (as a matter of fact both his paternal and maternal haplogroups point to European origin). As a result, Chris declared that he was "Fully Observant of [his] Jewish ancestry" and that he was "black too." He apologized for his past offensiveness regarding Jews and black people.

Sometime between 2018 and 2020 Chris's 23andMe results were updated. They now show no Jewish ancestry whatsoever, showing a somewhat larger component of [[Mario|Italian]] ancestry instead. They also show that he is of 0.1% [[Cherokean Chant|Siberian]] ancestry, possibly the sign of a distant Native American ancestor as North Asian and Native American populations are closely related.<ref>[https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/202906870-Can-23andMe-identify-Native-American-ancestry-]</ref> Chris has yet to comment on these new results.

==Minority characters in ''Sonichu''==

Chris attempts to add in characters of various races and religions with decidedly mixed results. Many of his non-white characters are one-dimensional or barely relevant but then again so is every white one who isn't Chris in his world full of rainbow hedgehogs. Virtually all black characters are depicted as criminals, villains, or undesirables. The ones that aren't so lucky are treated like crap by the other characters or used in race-related jokes.

In the [[Mailbag]], when Chris is confronted about the lack of minorities in his comic he claims that all of his [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] are considered "minorities" in CWCville, implying that he completely missed the point of the question. Despite being minorities, the Electric Hedgehog Pokémon group never experiences discrimination nor prejudices in the comic; [[homos|that's saved for another minority in CWCville]]. Chris tolerated a [[Niggo]] [[Bubbles]] and Indian [[Magi-chan]] renditions in [[July 2020]].

*[[Kevin the Jew|Kevin]] (Jewish, good but immature)
*[[Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan]] (<s>Paleface</s> Native American, lawful good)
*[[Wes Iseli#Wasabi Rival|Wasabi Rival]] (<s>Caucasian</s> Native American, evil)
*[[Sarah Nicole Hammer#Queen of the Cherokian Clan|Queen of the Cherokian Clan]] - (<s>white-washed</s> Native American, good, probably the whitest of all Native American characters in the comics as she's not only blue-eyed but also blonde)
*[[Manajerks#B-Manajerk|B-Manajerk]] (black, evil). A '''villain''' based off a real-life encounter. The B most likely stands for Black; the name was coined so that Chris could distinguish him from other [[Manajerks]]. This is quite similar to the way American black superheroes were named in the 1950-60s.
*[[Barack Obama]] (half-black, half-arab). A cameo for the sake of a race-related joke. [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] told Chris a racist joke about then-senator Obama, which Chris illustrated within the pages of [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]]. Chris removed the joke after Obama won the election, but he probably only did that because he respects Obama now.
* Blake (black, evil turned good). A '''villain''' turned positive-aligned "bad boy". Black Sonichu/Blachu (whose name was later [[retconned|changed]] to Blake) was originally a villain, but switched sides because he's a recolor of [[Shadow the Hedgehog]]. In [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]] which were uploaded in 2015 [[Blake]] is mistaken as black, being wished a "happy Kwanza, brother" from an African American, and goes on an angry rant about how his skin in not "sunburn color", he is black because of a mutation.
*[[CADD Chef]] (black, evil)
*[[Florance Fisher]] (black, good). A girl whose sole purpose in the comic is to be rejected by Reginald.
*[[Jerkhief]] (black, lawful evil). The Big Cheese of the Jerkops.
** Occasionally other [[Jerkop]]s are shown to be black as well. No other minorities are apparent aside from possibly Turdijerk (see below).
*[[Punchy]] (East Asian, good)
*[[Silvana]] (black, evil [said to turn good])
*[[Manajerks#Turdijerk and Trebor Capman (Accomplice)|Turdijerk]] (drawn with brownish skin and brown hair, possibly Indian(?), evil)
*[[Constables Gerald Grant and Louis Perez|Constable Louis Perez]] (black police officers who talk entirely in stereotypical black slang.
*[[Inos]] (black, [[tobacky]] smoker). A homeless, intoxicated, diseased, drug-pushing, expectorating Jamaican with filthy dreadlocks.
*[[Heather Iglesias]] (Hispanic, lesbian, good, <s>never seen</s> debuts in ''Sonichu'' #12)
*[[List of Sonichu characters#Dr. Bill Schwartz (Bill the Scientist)|Bill Schwartz]] (possibly Jewish, worked for [[Giovanni]] but later on changed sides)
*[[List of Sonichu characters#Ching Chong|Ching Chong]] (Asian, appeared in the [[Wedding Comic]] as a flower girl)
*PHI Spring Break reporter (Black, appears in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]]) - despite only appearing in one panel, Chris manages to make her into a stereotype, addressing the audience as "sistas and brothas".

==Sources==
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CWCville

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Necromaster: gramm

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{{quote|I'm still the mayor of CWCville. There [[Chris and English|is]] no elections.|[[Chris-chan Discusses...]], 2009}}

{{Quote|[Christine] has had emotions and more stress after being back in office, so she retired from being mayor, and gave the job back to Allison|Chris "retired" from being mayor of CWCville, 2017<ref>[[Sonichu 11]], pg. 46</ref>}}

'''CWCville''' (pronounced: [kwɪkvɪɫ], "quick-ville"), also stylized as '''Cwcville''', is an independent and self-governing city-state in northern [[Virginia]], [[United States]]. Despite its leader's claims to the contrary, the country is a totalitarian dictatorship - sporting a pervasive [[Chris and religion#Delusions of godhood|personality cult]] around the leader, [[Sonichu 10#Trial of the Asperpedia Four|no independent judiciary]] nor any [[CWCville Mayoral Office|separation of powers]], [[Mailbag 31|mass surveillance]] of the populace as well as largely autonomous [[chaotic combo|paramilitary organizations]]. The [[CWCville#Economy|economy]] is almost exclusively geared towards serving the whims of the ruling elite, with many of the country's citizens living in homeless shelters. Due to widespread discontent, elements of a façade democracy have been at times [[CWCville#Elections|introduced and retracted again]]. The country has engaged in [[4-cent_garbage.com|state terrorism]] against neighboring countries in the past.

As the name suggests, CWCville is derived from Chris's own initials, and serves as much of an exercise in [[Chris and his ego|boosting his ego]] as you'd expect. While the setting was initially believed exist to justify [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|his self-insert's presence]] in ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'', it was later learned that Chris's concept of a utopia had origins with a [[Lego]] city created in [[Chris's room|his own bedroom]], predating the webcomic. Additional lore provided over the years also indicated that Chris himself is not the founder of this city, but his father was, and he named it after his newborn son.

Chris believes that CWCville [[Chris and reality|actually exists]], and for many years used the city as a way to “[[Chris and coping|escape]]” from anything he [[Kick the Autistic|does not like]].<ref name="cwcville-reality">[[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence#THAT DOES NOT MATTER (CCS)]]</ref> Recently, Chris has used [[Dimensional Merge|other]] [[Messiah complex|means]] [[Spirit possession|of]] coping, and CWCville became part of the parallel dimension of [[C-197]], which he also believes to actually exist. Curiously, Chris has occasionally referred to [[Charlottesville, VA|Charlottesville]] as CWCville.

==Overview==
{{Quote|The city of CWCville, a vibrant community with happy people, [[boyfriend-free girl|cool chicks]] and a [[virgin with rage|frustrated male]]...|Narrator, [[Sonichu 2|''Sonichu'' #2]]<ref>[[:File:Sonichu - Episode 9, Page 6.jpg]]</ref>}}

[[Image:0823-EP12-5P6-3.jpg|thumb|left|The toys that started it all.]]
[[Image:CWCvilleMapProper.jpg|thumb|200px|Sonichu and Rosechu's welfare housing in relation to the rest of CWCville (note their postal code is the same as Chris's birthday and its address is nearly identical to his real address).]]
[[File:cwcville1.jpg|thumb|200px|A slightly more detailed (but no less disproportionate) drawing of CWCville.]]

CWCville is the setting of ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'', a city in Northern [[Virginia]] of which [[Chris]] was Mayor-for-Life. CWCville is where Chris portrays friends and enemies from his real life in scenarios altered to reflect [[Chris and his Ego|his bias toward himself]]. As his ideal metropolitan community, CWCville illustrates Chris's poor understanding of how a city actually functions. Like everything else that appears in [[Sonichu (comic)|his comic]], Chris believed for many years that CWCville actually exists, claiming at one point to be Mayor of CWCville “IN REAL LIFE”.<ref>[[Chris and reality#Fantasy and fiction]]</ref><ref name="cwcville-reality"/> As an entity Chris believes to be real, CWCville is a coping mechanism used to compensate for his unsatisfying actual life.

It has been argued that the unconquerable quality of Chris's [[Chris and his Ego|ego]] is bolstered by his ability to retreat to CWCville, where he can right all wrongs done to him. In his comics, we see him defeating [[Mary Lee Walsh]], with whom he holds an IRL grudge, beating the [[Jerkops]], and bringing his dead dog [[Patti Chandler]] back to life in the form of the anthropomorphic [[Patti-Chan]]. The main reason Chris can do such superhuman acts is due to the fact that in CWCville his will is supreme. This serves as a safety blanket that protects his physically and mentally feeble self from the outside world, where he holds no such power.

Chris is greatly concerned with people who are misinformed about any detail of CWCville, or conclude that it is anything but "a clean, secure, orderly and safe city."<ref>[[Mailbag 35#Except when half of it gets destroyed by giant robots]]</ref> After being coerced into declaring [[BILLY MAYS]] the new Mayor of CWCville,<ref>[[March 2009]]</ref> Chris repeatedly attempted to redact the statement claiming "I am still the mayor of CWCville, there is [sic] no elections."<ref> Chris-chan discusses </ref> <ref>[[Mumble 11|Mumble #11]]</ref><ref>[[CWC Update 1 July 2009]]</ref><ref name=p32>[https://web.archive.org/web/20160329034421/http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/Issue_9/Page_32 Issue 9/Page 32(Archive)]</ref> Chris seems to think that anyone who understands what CWCville is like will love it.

The seed of CWCville was planted early in Chris's life. An avid [[LEGO]] enthusiast, Chris eventually put all of his completed LEGO kits, original LEGO creations, and various handmade ''Sonichu'' items together on one table in his room. In [[February 2011]], Chris claimed to have finally disassembled the LEGO model, but he insisted that the city "still stands strong today within my own mind and hands."<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 2]]</ref>

The first official CWCville media was made in [[2001]].<ref>[[The City of Cwicville Tour!]]</ref> After toying with more phonetic spellings, Chris settled on "CWCville"<ref>[[Animal Crossing Documentary|''Animal Crossing'' Documentary]]</ref> in [[2003]]. This spelling features the initials of his full name and its pronunciation must be explained to others, indicative of CWCville's nature as a self-serving and insular fantasy.

Even in his ultimate self-serving fantasy in which he's given himself unchecked power for life, Chris's stunted imagination granted him only the title of mayor. Based on his maps, CWCkville consists of so few buildings that it would more accurately qualify as a village or hamlet, although this could be a consequence of his physical and mental limitations. He later created the land of [[RuleCWC]], a Sonichu [[Things Chris has ripped off|ripoff]] of Hyrule; a different character rules it instead of Chris's self-insert. All this suggests that at least in terms of his understanding of the world, Chris lags behind even an early [[Nathanael_Greene_Elementary_School|grade school]] age child.

In late-[[2017]] Chris ceased being merely the mayor of a town and instead became goddess of an [[C-197|entire dimension]]. Chris's earlier restraint may be due to his extremely limited worldview in which his entire world centers around his immediate surroundings, namely his hometown of [[Ruckersville]] and nearby [[Charlottesville]]. This weak sense of one's surroundings is a trait that is typically seen only in young children who lack basic life experience. One might hope that Chris's ability to understand scope and relevance had improved, but he has instead become only more delusional.

==Etymology==
One of Chris's [[The Wall of Originals|homemade ''Pokémon'' cards]] from [[2000]] featured a "'''Cwick City''' Gym", while [[City of Cwicville Tour!|an unfinished Game Boy Camera project]] dating from [[2001]] used the spellings "'''Cwicville'''" and "'''Cwickville'''". A sign on the door to his room used to read "Christian W. Chandler's Cwickville City Gym". It is unknown why he changed the spelling. Likely the alternate spelling just didn't stimulate [[Chris and his ego|his massive ego]] as much as his unaltered initials, even if it makes a lot less sense. (Although Christown, Chandlerville, etc. would have been just as good and made a lot more sense.)

== In-universe history ==

According to [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' 8]], Chris’s father, [[Bob Chandler]], founded CWCville in [[1982]].<ref>[[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu #8'']], [[Episode 18]], [[:File:Sonichu - Episode 18, Page 8.jpg|page 8]].</ref> It is unclear why it was not called Robertville: in fact, there are barely any records and symbols of the old regime – similar to the Roman practice of ''{{w|damnatio memoriae}}'', where all records of a traitor (statues, inscriptions, etc.) are erased after his death.

One fan theory is that Bob served as a regent while Chris was growing up, since there are {{w|Zaifeng, Prince Chun|real life}} {{w|Mswati III|examples}}: since Chris believes that CWCville is real, and that nearly all of the events in the comic mirror real life (albeit with a [[Chris and his ego|pro-Chris spin]]), it is safe to assume that Bob was alive when passing CWCville over to Chris. Another fan theory for Bob’s absence from the comics is that Chris overthrew Bob and secretly imprisoned him in an unknown location, but Chris’s stunted writing ability, laziness and ad-hoc manner of storytelling, indicates that Chris simply left Bob out of the comics.

== Geography and location ==

[[File:CWCville's zip code.png |thumb|CWCville's zip code, prior to the [[Idea Guy]] Saga.]]

CWCville began life as an infill city somewhere within the state of [[Virginia]],<ref>''[[Sonichu #3]]'', [[Sub-Episode 4]], page 4.</ref> but it became part of the larger [[C-197|C-197 dimension]] when Chris started promoting the [[Dimensional Merge]]. According to [[Sonichu 6|Sonichu #6]], one of the shortcut portals to CWCville was a dance mat behind the door to Chris's room.<ref>''[[Sonichu 6|Sonichu #6]]'', [[Episode 12.5]], page 8.</ref> Today, Chris uses so-called “[[Meditation#Third_eye|meditation]] sessions” to get there.

In [[2020]], Chris narrowed the “location” of the CWCville to somewhere “north to north-east” of {{w|Fredericksburg, Virginia}}:<ref>[[Discord Q&A 10#CWCville's Sister City (and Sports Teams)|Discord Q&A 10, “CWCville's Sister City (and Sports Teams)” section]]</ref> he later placed CWCville Beach by the shore of the Potomac River, east of Fredericksburg,<ref>[https://osm.org/go/ZZYfsOAc?m= OpenStreetMap location]</ref> claiming that the city is as large as Baltimore or New York City.<ref>[[The Journey to the Merge#Pebble Beach|The Journey to the Merge, “Pebble Beach” section]]</ref> The exact locations of key CWCville places as they relate to the [[Dimension 1218|real world]], such as the [[CWCville Mall]], remain unclear.

CWCville's {{w|ZIP Code}} was originally [[Chris's birthday|02024-1982]], an unused code {{w|List of ZIP Code prefixes#Starts with 0|available}} for Brockton, Massachusetts:<ref>''[[Sonichu #8]]'', [[Episode 17]], page 1.</ref> the correct ZIP code (at least during the infill era) would have started with 22, like [[Ruckersville]] (22968). Chris has changed the ZIP Code twice in [[2017]], as if it was possible through <s>dictatorial</s> mayoral decree:<ref>In reality, US law has several conditions for a town to change its ZIP Code.</ref> On 7 October the ZIP code was 16429, an unused code available for the vicinity of Erie, Pennsylvania, but a real ''[[Spanish|Mexican]]'' postal code for Tejomulco, a neighborhood in Mexico City.<ref>[[October 2017 Facebook posts#CWCville's zip code|October 2017 Facebook posts § CWCville's zip code]]</ref> On 19 November the ZIP Code changed to 69488, raising suspicions that the [[Idea Guys]] (who were active around the time) may be responsible: 69488 is the postal code for {{w|Birkenau (Odenwald)|Birkenau}} in Germany, which shares its name with the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration camp.

; Variations from the canon

There was an exception in [[Sonichu 1|''Sonichu'' #1]], which had a map that placed CWCville near Pallet Town and Giovanni's Gym in Viridian City, featured in the ''[[Pokémon]]'' series and located in Kanto, an area based on the {{w|Kantō region}} in Japan. The map also placed CWCville near {{w|Sonic Adventure#Gameplay|Station Square}}, from Sonic the Hedgehog's world.<ref>''[[Sonichu 1|''Sonichu'' #1]]'', [[Episode 5]], page 12.</ref>

===Architecture and City Structure===

[[Sonichu 1| In the earliest renditions of Sonichu]] the city of CWCville looked to have far more in common with a small village rather than something that would resemble a city; the "city" at this point in time appears to consist of little more than 8 locations (3 to 4 of which are residential, 3 private businesses, station square and the [[Zapbud]] field which may count as public property) poorly connected to each over via the use of dirt roads that don't seem to quite fit together properly.

Evidentially after this issue, the city saw some major construction projects drastically expanding the city into a {{w|Brutalist_architecture|brutalist's}} [[Cwcisms| sticky dream]].

The City appears to be [[Autism| strictly segmented]] into numerous districts, starting from the left the CWCville mall/mayors office stands alone surrounded only by (presumably) it's own car park taking up a total 0.25 square miles or 0.402336² km, across the street there is the CWCville park which takes up the exact same amount of space.

Next door to the mall is the "Subdivision" areas which act as residential buildings for some of the cities residents including [[Sonichu]] himself and his family.

Further right we find 2 more commercial buildings, on the northern side is the target mini-mart and the southern side is the Wal-Mart mini mart; despite each being 1/4 the size of the CWCville mall they both seemingly lack parking areas.

Even further to the right there appears to be the main city; the city itself apparently stretches an exact 10 square miles on both sides of the street and consists almost entirely of skyscraper buildings and brutalist block style residential areas which presumably the lower classes of CWCvillies society call home.

And finally the furthest area apears to be mountain range, also a quarter mile in size.

Despite the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germania_(city)| Germania] style of restructuring; the roads remain badly thought out and barely usable. Although the roads now actually utilized tarmac instead of simple dirt there appears to be only one major road leading through the entire city from beginning to end, with no consideration for pedestrians or even how cars meant to turn around since the city ends abruptly against a mountain. With the city cut directly in half the only plausible way anyone from the northern half could reach the southern half would be on foot since any attempt whatsoever to cross in a car would best case scenario bring the entire cities traffic to a halt.

==Government and politics==
[[Image:CWCvilleArea.jpg|thumb|Map of CWCville area. Note how [[Sonic]]'s house is bigger than the entirety of Pallet Town. Also, if you look at Station Square, you'll notice Chris's obsession with the [[Twin Falling Towers|World Trade Center]]. Also observe that Chris [[Obesity|needs an arrow]] [[Chris and his Ego|pointing to himself]]]]

CWCville is in theory part of the [[United States of America]], but in practice it seems to be a quasi-independent city-state, similar to [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piEayQ0T-qA Hong Kong or Macau] in [[China]]. The city does not follow American electoral law, uses its own currency, and has several characteristics anathema to [[United States of America|U.S. ideals]]. The city seems more like the private domain of the Mayor than part of a larger federation.

[[Image:CWCville.jpg|thumb|This is what a typical city looks like after being nuked.]]
[[File:Riots_in_cwcville_SB.jpg|thumb|An artist's representation of a riot in CWCville. [[August 2020 social media posts#Very Distant alt-timeline|Chris did not approve.]]]]

The Mayor attempts to refute accusations of dictatorship, (incorrectly<ref>*The {{w|Assad family|Assad dynasty}} in Syria *The {{w|Jean-Claude Duvalier|Duvalier}} {{w|François Duvalier|dynasty}} in Haiti *The {{w|Laurent-Désiré Kabila|Kabila}} {{w|Joseph Kabila|dynasty}} in the Democratic Republic of Congo *The {{w|Kim dynasty (North Korea)|Kim dynasty}} in North Korea The {{w|Pahlavi dynasty}} in Iran </ref>) claiming that dictatorships are never hereditary, while he [[Mailbag 34#Apparently North Korea's not a dictatorship|inherited the town from his father]].

[[File:SchuComic10P78.jpg|thumb|left|The Mayor addresses his people (DP [[Nazis|Leni Riefenstahl]], 1935, colorized).]]

Contrary to what Chris may believe, a self-proclaimed police force doesn't take orders from the civil authorities and lock people up at random. [[Mary Lee Walsh|The dean]] of [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|the only college]] is leading a hopeless resistance and is vilified in the [[Sonichu (comic)|mayoral-controlled press]]. [[Attraction Sign|Soliciting sex]] is legal in CWCville, while possession of [[tobacky|tobacco]] is a very serious offense. [[Alcohol]] was illegal until 2009, when the ban was [[Chris's Big Night Out|rescinded]]. Laws have been enacted to persecute [[homosexuals]], and [[Mailbag 31|psychic surveillance is used to monitor sexual purity]]. This constant Orwellian surveillance, which is obviously done under the guise of "protecting" the citizens, flies in the face of the basic human right to privacy. Since there is no plausible way to oversee or contest an official with the capability of ultra-human powers, it also effectively elevates the official above law. The Mayor has also hinted that the Electric Hedgehog Pokémon, a group of civilian defense contractors, have [[Chris and the Law#In the comic|immunity from prosecution]].<ref>[[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 3]]</ref> This goes against the concept of supremacy of law that is the very foundation of modern societies; some sociologists have pointed out that this quality of CWCville is in fact the hallmark of all police states. It must be reiterated that Chris genuinely believes that CWCville is a good place to live.

Despite all this perceived military and law enforcement might, the police and mercenaries demonstrably offer little real protection or competence: troublemakers like [[Wes Iseli]] ruin weddings with near impunity, and the [[Mary Lee Walsh|dissident leaders]] remained at large [[Sonichu 10|until recently]].

CWCville's court system is a joke. Walsh was captured, deposed, and sent to a maximum security prison without a trial. The [[Jerkop|Jerkops]] and [[Manajerks]] are deposed, yet were supposedly allowed to go scot-free. However, when [[Simonla Rosechu]] was murdered by a Voltorb, four people — [[Evan]], [[Alec Benson Leary]], Sean, and [[Mao]] — are arrested and subjected to a show trial less than a week later, despite earlier receiving a public pardon from the Mayor. The judge is biased in Chris's favor, when all judges should be impartial. Sean is permitted to defend himself and his fellow co-defendants, despite being clearly under the influence of drugs. Nobody suggests appointing a public defender for the four. The prosecutor adds to the charges, considering slander via the [[Asperpedia]] (which was destroyed by Chris) punishable by death, when it is in actuality a mild offense in most jurisdictions. Evidence gathered using [[Magi-Chan|Magi-Chan's]] psychic powers is considered admissible in court. When the four are found guilty by a clearly biased jury, they are immediately executed in cruel and inhumane ways.

CWCville also pays for the [[TrollBusters]]' private jet,<ref name="Jackie Chat #3">[[Jackie Chat 3|Jackie Chat #3]]</ref> and the Mayor's hedgehog friends receive free housing, credit cards and other gifts from his office, not unlike Soviet nomenklatura.

[[File:Mayor signer.png|thumb|200px|Charlottesville's Mayor Signer, also opposed to Pmurt.]]

In [[February 2017]], prompted by President [[Pmurt]], Chris declared CWCville to be a sanctuary city,<ref>[[February 2017 Facebook Posts#CWCville is a sanctuary city]]</ref> [[Things Chris has ripped off|mirroring a proposal by Charlottesville's real-life mayor]]. He also suggested that CWCville does not recognize Trump as president at all, lending further credence to the theory that CWCville is not actually part of the United States. Strangely, he claims that Vladimir Putin, the real-life president of Russia, is the president of the United states.

Between his Facebook posts and new issues of ''Sonichu'', Chris has revealed significant changes to CWCville since [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], showing that during the hiatus of [[Sonichu 11]], he had simply continued his fantasy/coping mechanism in his [[autism|mind]].

*Chris is no longer the mayor. [[Allison Amber]], formerly the mayor's secretary, took up the role. The circumstances of Chris's resignation are unclear, and it is unknown whether Amber was elected or if CWCville remains a dictatorship.

*Chris gave himself the position of the city's [[Ego|creator]] instead, since holding the imaginary responsibilities of a small-town mayor is [[stress|too much]] for him. Of course, his new position still earns Chris VIP treatment from the townspeople.

*The city has become ''even more'' of a police-state, with [[Magi-Chan]] reading the minds of the populace to determine if anybody poses a threat. Ironically, this solution is far more extreme than anything President Trump has done, including his executive order to shut down entry from select countries, which Chris has criticized.

*On the other hand, [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]] shows CWCville celebrating its [[SLGBTQ]] pride festival, indicating a reversal of Chris's long-standing homophobia and possibly a continuation of Chris's repeal-by-fiat in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]] of the city's anti-gay legislation.

===Elections===
According to the [[Samantha Thaddeus]] e-mails, the government was a "King/Queen thing" for which there is no voting.<ref>[[Samantha Thaddeus E-mails]]</ref> The non-elected leader does what he pleases as Mayor-for-Life with supreme power, "advised" by an elected House of Representatives which sits at the CWCville Trade Center Building.<ref>[[Mailbag 5|Mailbag #5]]</ref> The right to vote has "even" been extended to [[Niggos|those of African descent]] (though [[Women's rights|apparently not to women]], as some women are seen [[Sonichu 8#Episode_17:_Epilogue|protesting]] in order to gain suffrage in CWCville). Despite allowing elections for Board of Director Members,<ref>[[Mailbag 37|Mailbag #37]]</ref> Chris shows that they still hold no authority, existing as a purely advisory committee which the Mayor is not obligated to listen to. For example, he does not discuss attacking the [[4-cent garbage.com]] building with them, he just tells them the "game plan" as a ''fait accompli''. In all, CWCVille's government more resembles an absolute monarchy or the Roman Republic under Caesar than any American polity.

Chris originally planned to hand over the role of Mayor to [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|his sister Crystal]] in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]],<ref>[[Miyamoto_Saga#From_Chris_to_Miyamoto]]</ref> but later decided not to. On 3 [[March 2009]], Chris announced that BILLY MAYS was the new Mayor of CWCville. The next day, Chris revoked his edict that made MAYS the new Mayor, establishing a government-in-exile in [[Chris's room|his bedroom]]. Most legal scholars, however, argue that since Chris was not wearing the [[Medallion]], which Chris has indicated is necessary for a video to be TRUE and HONEST, his statements to the contrary are false and therefore not legally binding, meaning BILLY MAYS was still the Mayor of CWCville. On 28 [[June 2009]], BILLY MAYS died in his mayoral mansion, allegedly due to a cocaine overdose, but the hand of Chandler was suspected. The city was plunged into mourning. Chris wasted no time in seizing control of CWCville, announcing during a [[Chris chan Discusses|post-coup interview]] that {{w|Doublethink|he was always the ruler}} and that there would be no further elections.

However, Chris eventually lost interest in being the mayor. By some point prior to 2017, he handed over the role to [[Allison Amber]].

[[File:CWCville mayor Brendan Frasier.png|thumb|200px|CWCville's mayor, 2017 - 2021.]]

In November 2017, an [[Idea Guy]] tricked Chris into believing that an election was to take place, with several candidates running.<ref>[[November 2017 tweets#CWCville_mayoral_election]]</ref> He created a poll on Twitter for people to vote for the new mayor. The candidates were:

*[[Brendan Fraser]] - An American actor known for his role in the ''Mummy'' movies, who became a meme due to his career decline and heavy alimony payments ([https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/brendan-frasers-alimony-just-fuck-my-shit-up link])
*[[Mao|Mao Zedong]] - communist leader of [[China]] between 1949 and 1976
*[[Allison Amber]] - then mayor of CWCville, formerly Chris's secretary
*{{w|Augusto Pinochet}} - Chilean dictator from 1973 to 1990
*{{w|Vladimir Putin}} - Current President of Russia

A few hours later, he deleted his poll and created a new one, claiming some of the candidates had dropped out. His new candidates were:

*Bob McKendrick - A character from the video game ''PAYDAY 2'', who tried running for mayor of the DC Metro area
*Vladimir Putin
*Brendan Fraser

He later deleted this poll as well. Brendan Fraser won the election and took office as mayor.<ref>[[December 2017 Facebook posts#Jamsta molested Punchy]]</ref>

Two days later he posted on Twitter that an election for new Chief of CWCville Police Department would take place. His candidates were<ref>[[November 2017 tweets#CWCville_Chief_of_Police_election]]</ref>:

*[[Wikipedia:Manuel Pardo (serial killer)|Manuel Pardo Jr]] - a [[jerkop]] and serial killer executed in 2012
*[[Ian Brandon Anderson]]
*{{w|Manuel Noreiga|Man-Ewell Noriega}} [''sic''] - Dictator of Panama from 1983 to 1989
*{{w|Ed Gein|Edward Geen}} [''sic''] - A notorious murderer and body snatcher who was known as the real American Psycho.

Ian Brandon Anderson ended up winning with 65% of the votes.

In April 2021, Chris stated the current mayor to be [[Mary Lee Walsh]].<ref>[[April 2021 social media posts#Twilight Sparkle and CWCVille]]</ref> While in jail, Chris said that Walsh remained mayor: ''"Who has Time for Elections when us Goddesses Defend Cwcville (The City Of) from Rei freaking Ryghts, Eggman, Bowser, Giovanni, and so-on on occassion, and we have the Dimension Merge Completed and the Collective Shift in Progress, then we have my Second Coming on 1218 Earth. Not to Mention the Damage Control and Prevention that are beyond Non(Super)-Powerful Individuals' Control, anyway."''<ref>[[Jail Letter - 8 November 2021 (RadioRabbit0)]]</ref>

===Prison Camps===
{{Main|Operation BARBarossa}}

As of November 2017, CWCville also houses multiple prison camps on the outskirts, where enemies from the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|Gamindustri]] war are sent to be reformed.

==Economy==

CWCville runs under a command economy which Chris has near-total control over: the [[KCWC|radio station]] and [[CWC Cola|soft drink company]] are named after the Mayor, which indicates either nationalization of normally private businesses or rampant cronyism. The banning of goods that the Mayor disapproves of has also contributed to the city's financial troubles. [[Tobacky|Tobacco]], unhealthy as it may be, is illegal to sell, possess or consume, despite the multibillion dollar value of the industry, which by all reasonable analysis, means it is very likely one of the single most-smuggled contraband items into CWCville writ large, fetching black marketeers windfall profits.

As of [[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas|Christmas 2009]], ten homeless shelters have been set up: Chris himself claims that these ten-story "soup hotels" house a population of 900-1,800 indigents, and come equipped with free cable TV.<ref>[[Mailbag 20|Mailbag #20]]</ref> This means that the small city of CWCville has a homeless population of at least 10,000 (in comparison, the entire nation of Japan has just over 6,000<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_homeless_population</ref>). The Mayor's personal friends, such as [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]], live in state-sponsored, suburban housing. He also supplied furniture for [[Wild Sonichu]].<ref>[[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]], [[Episode 19]], Page 21</ref>

Strangely enough, Sonichu and Rosechu, both being too lazy to work, get $3,500 per month, (as shown in [[Mailbag 21]]), which is unusually a large sum of [[Chris and money|money]] for a [[monthly tugboat]]. This, also coupled with the unusually high homelessness rate, could tell us that CWCville possibly severely overtaxes its citizens to feed its [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|delusional, power-hungry dictator's]] multiple [[Dating Education|vanity]] [[TrollBusters|projects]].

Chris claims that the city has "a lot of [[Kevin the Jew|jews]] and [[Inos|immigrants]], like new york," and is on the stock exchange.<ref name="Jackie Chat #3"/>

=== Currency ===

[[File:Cwccash.jpg|thumb|CWCville currency]]

CWCville also mints its own currency, the '''CWCville quarter'''. It first came to prominence in ''[[Sonichu 9|Sonichu #9]]'', and comes in only two coins: the C-Quarter and the W-Quarter. Ten C-Quarters make one W-Quarter, indicating that Chris has [[Honor roll|no idea what "quarter" means]]. The W-Quarter is round and golden in color, with a silver edge and a red "W", while the C-Quarter is C-shaped and sky blue with a silver edge. Both appear to reference Chris's publishing house logo at the time, which notably appeared on the [[CWCipedia]]. CWCville still issue fines in US dollars for unknown reasons: most likely, to shore up foreign <s>currency reserves</s> spending money for a tottering dictatorship.

According to Chris on 19 November 2019,<ref>[https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1196903997300498434 Tweet] by @CPU_CWCSonichu, on 19 November 2019.</ref> and assuming that {{w|SIX Interbank Clearing}} chooses the W-Quarter as the main currency unit, the official exchange rate is {{abbr|CWQ|CWCville quarter}} 1 = {{w|US Dollar|{{abbr|USD|US Dollar}}}} 2.50,<ref>CW is actually the country code for Curaçao, and the currency code is merely for demonstration purposes.</ref> which puts the CWCville quarter only behind {{w|Kuwaiti dinar|Kuwait}}, {{w|Bahraini dinar|Bahrain}} and {{w|Omani rial|Oman}} in terms of purchasing power.<ref>[https://www.xe.com/currencytables/?from=USD&date=2020-01-01 XE.com exchange rates] for 1 January 2020 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20200410043434/https://www.xe.com/currencytables/?from=USD&date=2020-01-01 archived] on 10 April 2020).</ref> In reality, the irrational command economy and the ongoing [[Financhu Crisis|debt crisis]] in real-life means that the parallel (black market) rates may command a huge discount… {{w|Hungarian pengő#End of the pengő|something like}} {{abbr|USD|US Dollar}} 1 = {{abbr|CWQ|CWCville quarter}} 4×1029.

== The Invasion of CWCville ==
{{main|Sonichu 13}}
[[File:IdeaGuyMap.jpeg|thumb|A map created by [[Idea Guy]] Joshua Wise]].
After years of insanity and borderline totalitarianism, things finally seemed to be improving for the citizens of CWCville. Chris had stepped down as mayor, Magi-Chan was no longer spying on the populace due to his duties as Chris' husband, and beloved American film actor [[Brendan Fraser]] was elected as Chris' successor, ensuring CWvCille would no longer be an ego-driven police state and would also be protected from evil mummies. Under Fraser's benevolent rule, it seemed like CWCville would finally be a free and happy place. Unfortunately, this newfound peace and prosperity would not last long, due to the corruptions of the Idea Guys and their ween ideas. The Idea Guys convinced Chris that CWCville was under attack by various different villains and factions, placing it in a frenzied state of war. First invaded by villains from Hyperdimension Neptunia, the invaders were quickly beaten back and put into CWCville's newly established prison camps.

Later, the city was invaded by the neighboring nation of Australatina. The Australatinas managed to wipe out most of CWCville's military, who were forced to fight a war on two fronts when the city erupted into mass riots. The Underground tunnels beneath CWCville (presumably created by Simonla who didn't want to ride the fucking bus like a normal person) collapsed, causing mass devastation and splitting the city into two sides: East and West. The Australatinas then pledged their loyalty to invading Nazis, who began ethically cleansing CWCville. They successfully captured most of Chris' hedgehog Pokemon and wiped out most of the wild Pokemon around CWCville. Chris' characters were brutally executed but quickly respawned. The female Sonichus were all raped and impregnated until they were freed by Chris. The Nazis were finally beaten back and the city was rebuilt.

Despite all of their reckless bumbling, the Idea Guys managed to do something no one could ever imagine was possible: make CWCville an even worse shithole. Sure, under Chris' reign the city was a manchild's playground escape fantasy with Orwellian undertones, but at least you could get a job at Taco Bell and live a reasonably peaceful life if you didn't smoke or call the mayor a tard. Once the Idea Guys took over, the city became a living hell filled with constant death and destruction with forced labor, rape, and death camps. The lesson is simple: being ruled by a bumbling and incompetent but well-meaning manchild might be bad, but being ruled by murderous nazis is at least moderately worse.

== CWCville's Restoration ==
Chris has been rather inconsistent with what parts of Sonichu 13 were actually canon and which parts he discarded. Regardless, the city was restored to its Pre-War state and all the nightmarish changes were reversed. Presumably, the timeline was fixed and all the characters returned to their normal lives, and [[Brendan Fraser]] was still the mayor, with Ian Brandon Anderson serving as his Chief of Police.

With the Nazis, evil CPUs and reality-warping demons all defeated and a fantastic actor once again leading the city, CWCville has presumably finally become a somewhat decent place, even if everything there is ass-backwards and totally absurd. Chris has written very little about CWCville following the events of Issue 13. However, Chris claimed that he attended Babscon there in 2020. CWCville, and presumably all of Dimension C-197 was totally unaffected by the COVID-19 pandemic.

== Twin towns ==

[[File:1920px-2008-0830-Charlottesville-DowntownMall.jpg|thumb|left|CWCville, as portrayed by Chris in his videos.]]

CWCville appears to be twinned with [[Charlottesville, Virginia]], the largest and most familiar urban environment in Chris's life.

Chris has made many connections between the two cities, mainly as a result of his narrow perception of the outside world: for example, Chris presented footage of Charlottesville as that of CWCville,<ref>[[Rollin' and Trollin']]</ref> while CWCville hosts the Dogwood Festival, which is an Charlottesville tradition.<ref name=p32/> Chris also stated that CWCville is as important and worthy of respect as every American city that begins with "C", but mentioned only Charlottesville by name, calling it "the most important one" of these "C-Villes"; as if Chicago, Cincinnati, Colorado Springs, Corpus Christi, [[Ohio trip|Columbus or Cleveland]], for example, were so much less important than it.<ref>[[Do Not Dis C Ville]]</ref>

==Gallery==
<center><gallery>
Image:EmperorChris.png|How Chris sees himself as CWCville's ruler.
Image:Chris Jong-Il.jpg|Artist's depiction of CWCville's beloved Mayor.
Image:Big-brother-is-watching-you-94815124855.png|The future of CWCville.
Image:0858-Cwcville7.JPG|The great <strike>dictator</strike> director on his throne.
Image:CWCville Degeneration.jpg|An artist's depiction of CWCville after Chris passes away and it is forgotten.
Image:3adc9ab34027a8ea714b6570897088e8-png.jpg|City map, with aerial photo recreation below.
Image:Cwcville_Map_Version_3.png|Alternate city map, showing the rural areas around the city and how it connects to other areas.
File:Chris_ruling_cwcville_SB.jpg|Chris ruling as mayor of CWCville.
</gallery></center>

==Fan videos==
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = CWCville Tour Video
| ytid = bbHypp3ziBQ
| maker = MycalFelps
| stardate = 11 [[May 2010]]
}}

==See also==
* [[CWCville Shopping Center]]
* [[CWCville Mayoral Office]]

== Sources ==
<references/>

==External links==
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20130210092136/http://www.freewebs.com/cwcvillechronicles/ CWCville Chronicles] (archive from 10 Feb 2013)

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{{Mayors of CWCville}}
{{Fantasies}}
{{Sonichu}}

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Affair with Mother

2023-02-10T14:52:52Z

Necromaster:

:''This page is about the affair itself. For the leaks in which Chris describes incestuous acts, see [[Incest Call]] and [[Incest Texts]]. For the subsequent legal consequences, see [[Jail Saga]]. For Chris's general stance on incest, see [[Chris and sex#Incest|here]].''

{{Honest}}
{{Misinfo|Chris has a felony charge of incest, not rape. Whether the affair was consensual or not is discussed below but ultimately does not confirm nor deny whether it was consensual, however no matter whether you believe Chris raped Barb or not please ''avoid calling Chris a rapist on this wiki unless he is officially charged, or has been fully confirmed to have raped Barb.}}

{{quote|Anyhow, who among Everyone in this world has not had a dream of having sex with one of their parents? Never acting on them ever, [[Honest Content|I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother]].|Chris on [[Facebook]] in [[2016]]. Chris would act on his instincts five years later.<ref name=dream>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>}}
{{quote|You're supposed to say: "Turn me loose, you silly goose!" '''...You used to do that more flirtingly.'''|Chris while forcefully embracing [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}
[[File:SoulBonding.jpg|thumb|An artist's interpretation of the act. ([[For Julie's Eyes Only|We can only imagine that Chris shouted "BARBAAAY!" at least once when this happened.]])]]
For years, trolls joked that [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]], in his desperation to find a [[boyfriend-free girl]], would eventually turn to [[Barbara|his mom]] based on his occasional off‐putting comments about her and their constant proximity to one another. Few thought he would ever go through with the act, though — but Chris found a way to surprise and horrify everybody.

Chris and Barb's '''incestuous affair''' most likely began on 27 [[June 2021]],<ref name=call>[[Incest call#Transcript]]</ref><ref name=wct/> but [[June 2021 social media posts|his social media presence in]] earlier in the month, may hint at an earlier start to the affair. As early as 22 June, he began addressing Barbara by the unsettling pet name of "Barbie Chan", which may have indicated when he began to get intimate with her. After this date Chris claimed that he had sex with her once every three nights until being forcibly stopped by being removed from the house.

On 28 July 2021, during a call with [[Isabella Loretta Janke|Isabella "Bella" Loretta Janke]], [[Honest Content|Chris revealed the details of his sexual activities with his mother of his own volition]], also discussing it in text messages later that day. In those, Chris discussed stimulating his elderly mother with his hands, performing cunnilingus on her, and having penetrative sex with her.<ref name=deviant>[[Incest Texts]]</ref> He claimed that Barbara compared him favorably to her previous sexual partners, including Chris's father [[Bob]], who had been unable to provide her with an orgasm or stimulate her {{w|G-spot}}.

Files were leaked to the public the following night,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/oudn5m/chris_chan_admits_to_having_sex_with_his_mother/</ref> and social workers removed Chris from Barbara on the morning of 30 July.

In early August 2021, Chris was [[Jail Saga|arrested, officially charged with one count of incest, and is currently being held without bail – pending trial]].

Chris has [[Affair with Mother#Chris's Comments on the Affair post-incarceration|commented on the charges against him]] numerous times since his arrest.

==Background and foreshadowing==
{{Needs Updating|[[Lonely feelings]], [[Teen Troon Squad chats]]}}

[[File:July28BeautyArtwork.jpg|thumb|left|400px|Note the talk of "soul bonding" in the right-hand corner.]]

In general, the relationship between Chris and his mother has always been seen as a "little too close", likely due to his mother's overly coddling nature towards him in his early life all through to his adulthood mixed with the emotionally abusive control tactics she implemented against both him and Bob. It was keenly noted during the [[DoopieDoOver|Doopie Saga]] that Chris had used the words "[[darling]]" and "dear", commonly reserved for romantic relationships, to refer to his mother.

Many Christorians have noted that potential hints or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris and his mother have been made previously. In a [[PVCC NEW info: on Chris and Barbara spoon eachother!|2010 voice chat]] between various [[PVCC]] forum members, [[Kim Wilson]] talked about a discussion where Chris revealed he was spooning his mother on a regular basis. She also revealed that Chris told her that he'd once had a [[Dreams|wet dream]] about Barb as an Egyptian belly dancer. When asked by Emily if he'd repopulate the planet if he and his mother were the only two people left in existence, Chris went silent and then denied any desire to have sex with his mother.

[[File:SuitressRedditPost.jpg|thumb|"Top 10 Hottest Anime Moms Ever", a video Chris watched on 25 July 2021, days before he confessed to incestuous acts on his mother.<ref>Date can be seen in [[:File:SuitressTablet.jpg]]</ref>]]

As early as October 2015, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement for the [[pepper spray]] incident, Chris and his mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion.<ref>[[26 December 2014#15 October Hearing]]</ref> As recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as [[Magi-Chan]], referred to his mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Furthermore, in August 2016, Chris admitted to having [[Dreams#Mother_dreams|dreams of having sex with his mother]] in a Facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother".<ref name=dream></ref> Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwi Farms that following the [[2014 house fire]], Chris and his mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating "I am not a '[[wikipedia:Norman Bates|Bates]]'. OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>

According to both [[Bella]] and [[MKRNightVee]], Chris brought up the dreams of sex with his mother again to them in private conversations. In a 19 [[July 2021]] conversation with the [[Chess Club]] Discord server, Bella mentioned that Chris, during his phase of [[role-play]]ing as Sonichu, brought up that he had a dream of having sex with his mother, to which Bella replied that it was weird and questioned what it meant, to which an offended Chris asked if she was calling Chris weird.<ref>[[Chess Club Chats#Suicide Plan Claims]]</ref> On 30 [[July 2021]], MKR commented about the leak of the incest news, and mentioned that Chris had told her about sexual dreams with his mother, and that MKR dismissed it as one of Chris's many crazy dreams.<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1421182090586988549 (archive: https://archive.ph/Scjbk)</ref>

[[July 2021 social media posts#Beauty artwork|Chris released a piece of artwork on his Twitter feed]] on 28 [[July 2021]], showing "soul-bonding" between an elderly Libra woman (which Barb is) and a younger woman that suspiciously looks like [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Chris's fictionalized counterpart]], clandestinely hinting at the horrifying affair that was just days from being revealed (the only major inconsistency is that Chris is a Pisces and appears elsewhere in the picture with the correct sign). [[The Suitress]] had also posted a screen cap of a video on Reddit, which Chris claimed that he had watched days prior to his affair being revealed.

Chris had stated [[Lonely feelings|in a conversation]] he had with [[Watchmen]] members that he had feelings of loneliness, and had wanted to get action on with a real, physical woman. Unfortunately for everyone, Chris's desires would lead him to a very dark place.

== The affair ==

On 27 June 2021, Chris began to engage in incest with his mother.<ref name=call/><ref name=wct>[[WCT DMs#New sweetheart]]</ref> Chris claimed he "approached her with care and caution," and that Barb even made the "first move."<ref name=call/>

When pressed for details on the dirty deed, Chris has shown an unsurprising lack of [[Chris and remorse|remorse]] for his actions, stating that his actions were ordained by [[Chris and religion|GodJesus Himself]]. If anything, he was more upset that [[Bella]], [[Null]], [[Dillin]], and other people ratted him out [[Honest Content|after he provided a confession to a felony]].<ref>[[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021]]</ref><ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 October 2021]]</ref>

=== The gory details ===

{{Protip|[[Fabricated BDSM texts|Texts purporting BDSM roleplay]] are fakes doctored by Bella. With that said, this list is still not entirely reliable, as details may vary and because Chris is [[List of Chris's lies|typically not interested in honesty in these scenarios]].}}
[[File:SurrealIncest.png|thumb|A surreal depiction of the events]]
In case you have some kind of morbid curiosity of how the affair could have went down, here is a list of "activities" that Chris had allegedly done to/with his mother:

#'''Massages'''<ref>[[July 2021 social media posts#Signature sex move]]</ref> - Presumably full body ones since it included her thighs (and her face for some reason); this is probably the same type of massage he gave to [[Mia Hamm]]. Chris also claimed in a chat with [[The WCT]] that he had bought massaging oil, and made the claim that it is perfect to use on one's lover. <ref>[[WCT DMs#Massage oil and dream]]</ref>
#'''Kissing''' - Apparently did not involve tongues.
#'''Outer Course''' - Rubbing her pussy with his fingers and hands, this happened at least twice before the next step, probably more.
#'''Intercourse''' - By this, he means fingering her, it apparently hurt her when he did so.
#'''Cunnilingus''' - Eating her out, [[Chris and his ego|claims he's good at it]]. No information about if she returned the favor. <ref name=deviant/>
#'''Penetration''' - Vaginal, apparently with the use of a condom, he proceeded to get himself tested for STI's afterwards anyway.
#'''Cuddling''' - According to a letter from jail, Chris supposedly "cuddled" with Barb in the times of incest.<ref name=letter>[[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021]]</ref>

According to [[Null]], Chris had been buying large amounts of sex toys and lingerie from [[Adam & Eve]] for several months prior to committing his acts. What sex toys Chris potentially used, if any, is uncertain.

===Negligee===
{{Main|Negligee}}
[[File:CWCWithFanJun27.png|thumb|100px|left|A photo of Chris wearing the negligee in front of a fan.]]
Chris stated that he purchased a negligee and claimed that Barb approved of the idea.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Sexy negligee]]</ref> This was eventually confirmed on 3 March 2022, when a Reddit fan posted photos of themselves with Chris in the negligee.

{{clear}}

==Rationalizations==
Chris has rationalized the affair in multiple ways.

*'''Divine approval''' - Chris claimed in the [[Incest Call]] that God told him the incest was okay.

*'''Soul-Bonding and Healing''' - In a jail letter that [[Emanuel]] told him to have sex with Barb in order to "heal" her and "cleanse her of her sins".<ref name=letter/> In a later letter, Chris mentions that "Soul Bonding does not necessarily constitute sex" which implies that it ''can'' be.<ref>[[Jail_Letter - 16_November_2021]]</ref> He described soul-bonding as "the Bonding and Union of Auras (Energy Fields) between at least two individuals."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 June 2022]]</ref> Chris seems to be under the impression that if he didn't engage in this "healing" then Barbara would have died or being more heavily injured by her recent car accident, completely ignoring the fact that if Chris had not engaged in it, chances are Barb wouldn't have been in a car accident at all, since she wouldn't have been forced to drive on her own due to her son's absence.<ref>[[Jail_Letter - 11 January 2022]]</ref>

*'''Defense measure against Sockness''' - Chris claimed that "my having had sex is also a defense mechanism in regards to [[Sockness]] and what he had/may have in mind with me and being near me," referring to Sockness's history of scheming to have sex with Chris, and that Chris planned to use the fact of his affair as a "truth bomb" to deter Sockness.<ref name=soulbonding>[[Bella chats#Soul Bonding]]</ref>

==Awareness of wrongdoing==
Chris was aware of the illegal nature of incest. In August 2016, he read a news article on the topic of a mother and son charged with incest and commented over Facebook on it, defending the two and saying they should not be sent to jail.<ref name=dream></ref>

Five years later, in the midst of his own affair with his mother, Chris still demonstrated awareness that the action was illegal. While he desired to discuss the affair with people, he first concocted a cover story in which he used misleading euphemisms such as "lady friend" to describe his sexual partner and claimed that the supposed lady friend and Barb had met each other<ref name=spill>[[Bella chats#Chris Wants to Spill the Beans]]</ref><ref>[[WCT DMs#Chris describes his lady friend]]</ref> and he insisted on keeping the identity of the lady friend secret,<ref name=soulbonding></ref><ref name=null>[[Null DMs#Chris vaguely describes his relationship]]</ref><ref name=wct></ref> though he dropped hints such as age<ref name=soulbonding></ref> and employment history.<ref name=null></ref>

After a month of using his cover story, Chris decided to push further and tell someone that his mother was the sexual partner. He selected [[Bella]]. Before telling her, Chris first spent time trying to manipulate her into keeping silent on what he would say by use of a guilt trip.

{{quote|And I ask you Not to Overthink or ask for further details in pressing on. That is not a good thing to do.|Chris to Bella, 17 July 2021<ref name=soulbonding></ref>}}

Over a week later, Chris, ready to divulge his secret, first claimed to Bella that he was uncertain of telling her as he was concerned about the government hacking into the conversation, which backfired on Chris as this tipped off Bella into suspecting that he was about to discuss an illegal act.<ref>[[Bella and Suitress chats#Bella suspects incest]]</ref>

{{quote|I realize I am remaining and sounding distant on the questioning, and it will become more clear and obvious when I tell you, in-person, who she is.

I actually wish I could tell you over text or voice call, but the government and anyone with the tech can easily hack into those methods|Chris, prior to the [[Incest Call]].<ref name=spill></ref>}}

Within the same conversation, Chris recommended using the encrypted text/video call app Signal (having used it to communicate with [[Null]]), which Bella agreed to download.<ref name=spill></ref>

==Leaks==
{{main|Incest Call|Incest Texts}}
In the leaks, Chris admits that he and his mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris masturbating his mother, and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. It is further alleged that his mother compared him to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father.

{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. Then she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played with down there by hand.|Text message from Chris.<ref name=deviant></ref>}}
{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing his sexual activities with his father's sexual activities.<ref name=deviant></ref>}}
[[File:Arrestchu.jpeg|thumb|"Ladies and gentlemen, we got him."]]

The leaked audio likewise contained graphic descriptions of sexual activity, which Chris alludes to as the veracity of "incest fanfics". The authenticity of the recording was confirmed by Chris to [[Dillin Thomas]].<ref name="admission">[[Incest fallout chat leaks#Chris confesses to Dillin Thomas]]</ref>

Prior to the allegations being revealed to the public, Chris informed [[Bella]], [[Null]], and [[The WCT]] about the fact that he found a [[boyfriend-free girl]], although he wanted her identity to remain secret. He offered multiple hints about the identity of his new [[sweetheart]], but told Null that he wanted him to figure out who it was. Null was initially skeptical of the incest claims, since the [[Idea Guys]] previously coerced him into recording a (then untrue) statement that he had raped Barb, and believed that this could be another instance of similar manipulation. Null hypothesized that Chris was attempting to protect the identity of his new girlfriend by making up an elaborate lie, but eventually came to realize that Chris had been having frequent sex with Barb upon reviewing Chris's hints.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Chris's "girlfriend"]]</ref>

After this information eventually came to light, Chris indicated that it was "drama" and that he only intended to share the information to [[Messiah complex|test his followers]], who he trusted not to share the information with the public at large despite incest being illegal. Chris later compared Null to {{w|Judas Iscariot}} for "betraying" him by trusting him with such [[Honest Content]]. [[Chris and remorse|Chris being Chris]], he seems to be more upset over the fact that [[Honest Content|trusting people not to leak evidence of a criminal act]] led to [[Jail Saga|serious, life-changing consequences for him]] than the idea that he may have caused harm to Barb, and as multiple [[jail letters]] show, he does not have guilt over the fact that he did something illegal (not to mention he clearly hasn't learned from ''years'' of experience that [[Honest Content|constantly sharing personal information at the drop of a hat]], be it embarrassing or '''incriminating''' in this case, invariably comes back to bite him in the rear later on).

== Was it consensual? ==

{{Protip| The following information should not be taken as definite proof that Chris raped Barb or not; this is simply a list of evidence that Chris has provided himself, which due to Chris's habit of lying for the pettiest of reasons, can be seen as unreliable by some. Due to the sensitive nature of this topic, please avoid saying for sure if Chris did or did not rape Barb.}}

On the CWCki, there are two main camps that people fall into when discussing this topic:
There are people who believe the affair to be abusive or even flat-out rape, while there are other people who believe the affair was consensual between the two.

The following list contains many common points of argument for both sides but also a counterargument for each and every one.

The evidence for the affair being nonconsensual are as follows:

* Barb has been speculated to be suffering from dementia or some other form of mental decline; there are too many videos of her displaying symptoms to list, but this could be her intentionally faking it for sympathy donations.
* Chris mentioned during [[Incest Texts]] that Barb told him to stop during his attempts to finger her; however, this would have been Chris's first time fingering a woman ([[Mia Hamm]] didn't allow him to do so during their times together) and Chris mentioned this act hurt Barb at first; meaning Barb could have been stopping him from his attempts due to the pain but otherwise consented to be fingered.
* Chris, during the [[Incest Call]], mentions that Barb seemed partially confused at first; However, Chris did say she "came around," so it's possible he was referring to his advances towards her, and she didn't initially understand/ believe what Chris was asking for.
* Chris mentioned in [[Jail Letter - 22 July 2022 (2)]] that Barb was "Zombie-like" and not even aware of her surroundings even before the affair began; while damning (if true), it's worth mentioning that Chris during the letter is begging Kenneth for assistance in moving Barb out of the house, arguing that Barb simply cannot take care of herself. Chris, being Chris, could simply not know the implications of what he's actually saying, and it's quite possible that Chris is desperately lying since Kenneth disapproved of the idea unless there was no other option for Barb.

The evidence for the affair being consensual are as follows:

* Chris and Barbara's relationship is infamously creepy and way too close for comfort; this is the main source of people believing the affair was consensual and for good reason. Barb would often yell at Chris if he didn't share a bed with her, and Chris has admitted numerous times that he spoons with her (after Bob's death). They were also often seen talking to each other and even holding each other as if they were husband and wife for a long time before the affair began. Barb is infamous for being horribly manipulative for her own personal gain, and she does not see any problem with coddling and emotionally blackmailing Chris in order to go along with what she wants to do (usually money or food-related stuff); with this in mind, while their relationship is definitely unhealthy for a mother and son to have, it does not prove that Barb was interested in an incestuous affair with Chris.
* Chris claimed to Null during his temporary homelessness in [[Null DMs| a direct message]] that the affair was definitely consensual; [[Honest Content|however even somebody like Chris]] would probably hesitate to admit raping their own mother, especially to his main benefactor at the time.
* Chris boasted during the [[Incest Call]] that Barb was "having a good time" and even claimed that he let her make the first move; even if this is true, it does not rule out that Chris hadn't coerced or otherwise manipulated her into having sex with him since he did mention in the same call that she was "partially confused at first." Chris's idea of approaching a love interest with "care and caution" '''does not''' translate to consent or even consideration for somebody else's feelings; his idea of nervous behavior around [[Kacey]], for example, included touching her multiple times without her consent and his interactions with [[Megan]] which he describes as "friendly" also included a lot of unwanted attempts to hug and kiss her.
* In [[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022]], Chris claimed that after he lost his virginity to Mia Hamm and told his mom about it, Barb stated that she would have had sex with him herself; while this does sound like Barb offering herself to Chris there is a massive possibility that Barb was simply saying he could [[Attraction Sign|pull women without paying them]] (for example when [[Pmurt]] stated that he would date his daughter if he was somebody else not related to her), while definitely creepy it does not mean she actually wanted sex with him and even if she did, the quote came from a decade beforehand so this would not count as consent.

In the end, we will perhaps never honestly know; Barb is not willing to comment or give any further details (and thankfully, nobody has pressed her on such), and Chris is currently in denial that the affair ever took place. If Chris is formally charged and sentenced with felony incest (or perhaps rape), it could be a case of Chris simply piling on tons of poorly worded evidence against himself [[Honest Content|(as he's done throughout most of his life)]]; if Chris is found innocent or just given the sentence for misdemeanor incest, it could be seen as yet another example of the criminal justice system [[Honor Roll|going easy]] on [[Autism|somebody with special needs]], and Chris gets away with yet another crime [[Law |(something that he has also done throughout most of his life)]] as a result.

Ironically, despite this being one of the most critical moments in Chris's life, [[Geno Samuel|a life that has been documented extensively down to the finest detail]], we continue to and will likely never know the essential details of it.

==Chris's Comments on the Affair post-incarceration==

During his recent incarceration Chris has communicated numerous times with members of the public via letters and telephone calls. Some of those letters (and one recorded phone call which has been publicly shared by an anonymous caller) contain commentary by Chris regarding the charges for which he is currently in jail. The first publicly available letter in which Chris touches on the subject of the alleged incest was written on [[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021|19 September 2021]]. In it, he appears to strongly imply that he indeed had sex with Barbara. Chris's comments on the affair are tied with his elaboration of his previously expressed delusions of Godhood. He reveals to have realized himself to be the present day reincarnation of Jesus Christ. The supreme Goddess Emanuelle had ordered him to to purify Barbara of her sins and improve her abilities as well. In his description of how this was done, Chris writes that he and his mother "mainly Cuddled, Soul-Bonded, and Talked." No sexual acts are explicitly mentioned, but the rest of the letter strongly implies that they were included in Chris's "healing" of Barbara. Chris goes on to write that the healing he performed on his mother was similarly done by him on other individuals during his previous life as Jesus Christ, though the details of said healings were omitted from the the Bible. Chris then goes on to inform the letter's recipient that "We Gods had eased up on the views of "Adultry [sic]"; WHY Else do you all have Pro-Gay, and Pro-Lesbian, Pro-Trans, and all Today and the past Decades?" While the word "adultery" is typically used to refer to marital infidelity, it appears that in this letter it should be read as "acts that go against traditional sexual morality". By grouping the "healing" of Barbara in the same category as intimate relations between members of the same sex, Chris strongly implies that the "healing" of Barbara likewise included romantic and sexual acts. Chris's defense of the "healing" on the counts that all those who were involved in it were both willing and above the legal age of consent further enhances the impression that it was at least partially sexual in nature.

While he 19 September letter was just a few baby steps away from being an explicit admission of incest, it did not take long for Chris to become more coy as to whether or not incest between him and Barb had occurred. In a [[Jail Call - 1 November 2021|1 November 2021 telephone call]] Chris failed to either explicitly deny or acknowledge that he and Barb had sex. The same ambiguousness regarding the truthfulness of the charges against him can be seen in a letter written on [[Jail Letter - 16 November 2021|16 November 2021]].

At some point Chris changed his tune and began to outright deny that there was any sexual intimacy between him and his mother. As far as public evidence goes, Chris first explicitly denied the charges against him in the [[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022|11 May 2022 jail letter]]. In the same letter Chris alleges that in [[May 2012]] Barbara made sexual advances towards him after he revealed to her that he had paid a prostitute a month beforehand. He goes on to write that after the death of Bob Barb came to see Chris as a husband-like figure. Further denials that Chris ever had sexual relations with Barb appear in jail letters written on [[Jail Letter - 1 June 2022|1 June]] and [[Jail Letter - 4 June 2022|4 June 2022]]. Chris does acknowledge that prior to his arrest he told others that he had sex with Barb, but by now he claims that those admissions were false. As he wrote in the 4 June 2022 letter: "I have never had sex with Barbara; that was purely Big Talk to Divinely Test everyone." Already in the letters from 19 September 2021 and 16 November 2021 Chris claimed that his pre-arrest admissions were made in order to test certain individuals, but only recently Chris began to claim that these admissions were false.

==Consequences==
{{Main|Jail Saga}}
It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest – sexual activities between a parent and a child are a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. Chris was swiftly removed from his home by an Emergency Protective Order, then arrested the next day. In the wake of his charges, Chris was [[ban]]ned from [[Patreon]] and [[Tapas]]. Collaborators who had once worked with him withdrew, such as the band who released [[Love is Love (song)|Love is Love]] pulling it from sale.

Since then, he was held without bail in Central Virginia Regional Jail before getting transferred to [[Western State Hospital]], awaiting trial.<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/269663503100241/photos/a.398555170211073/4389133984486485/?type=3 Press release]</ref> On 3 [[May 2022]], Chris was transferred back to CVRJ.

If Barb consented, she could be charged as a willing participant. If Barb did ''not'' consent, as some have speculated that she may be incapable of that, Chris's potential sentence could be significantly longer given the severity of a rape charge.

===Chris and Barbara's relationship===
{{Needs Updating|Citations}}
Chris and Barbara's relationship deteriorated during Chris's stay in jail. In a jail letter, Chris mentioned that Barb had ceased communicating with him.{{cite}}. During summer 2022, Chris began to speak ill of Barb in his letters, insulting and making spurious claims about her.{{cite}} While still in jail, Chris began planning for his housing post-release. In light of a restraining order being placed on Chris preventing him from contact with Barb{{cite}}, Chris believed he deserved to live in [[14 Branchland Court]] over Barb, and requested his [[enablers]] assist him with a [[Kickstarter]] fundraiser to bribe Barb into moving into senior housing, claiming that [[Caden]] was helping with this scheme, and that it was his initial idea.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 29 July 2022]]</ref>

==Fan videos==

{{Infobox/Fanvideo
|name = Sonichu Says NO to Barbussy Mitai [emptyhero]
|ytid = tsYBphxweBY
|stardate = 22 Nov 2022
|maker = emptyhero
|info = BLAST ALL YOUR BEANS IN MY BARBUSSY PLEASE
}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
|name = Poor Sonichu...
|ytid = WIZfv3scrx4
|stardate = 13 Feb 2022
|maker = Emperor Techno
|info = Warning: kinda spooky
}}

{{Infobox/Fanvideo
|name = Chris-Chan and his mom every 3rd night since June 27
|ytid = mjARTrVL_0w
|stardate = 10 Aug 2021
|maker = American Goblin
}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
|name = Chris Chan be like..
|ytid = Srz73CkOgwQ
|stardate = 2 Aug 2021
|maker = Through Time and Space
}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
|name = Chris-Chan and Barb sing “Promiscuous”
|ytid = L7tTC6_Z5HE
|stardate = 2 Aug 2021
|maker = ZeldaFanMan
}}

==See also==
{{FanArt}}
*[[Chris and sex]]
*[[Chris and the law]]
*[[Jail Saga]]
*[[Soul Bonding]]
*[[The Binding of Isaac‎]]
*[[Ultimate Guide to Sex and Disability]]

{{Notes}}
{{References}}
{{Articleofthenow}}
{{IncestSaga}}
{{Love Quest}}

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Talk:Jail Saga

2023-02-01T23:29:37Z

Necromaster:

==Splitting up article?==

Chris's court case has only just begun, and the info about it is going to keep increasing as time goes on. For clarity and size reasons, I think we should separate his arrest and his court case into separate pages - something like 'Incest arrest' and 'Chris's incest trial.' As is, the current article reads very awkwardly.
--[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 19:09, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

*What about one called 1 August 2021, which chronicles the arrest, then a separate page about the court dates all together (unless they end up being a lot meatier, then we split them into individual pages)? --[[User:VoDKa|VoDKa]] ([[User talk:VoDKa|talk]]) 15:40, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

*The page is quite small at the moment and splitting the topic up right now will only cause confusion; the topic of incest was originally just on the sex page, it became its own page only for the consequences of it to become yet another page; we really don't need 4 pages talking about the exact same thing, 3 seems a bit redundant frankly. --[[User:Necromaster|Necromaster]] ([[User talk:Necromaster|talk]]) 21:58, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

:*Fair enough. --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 20:44, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

==Merging this article with the main Incest article==

I know I was proposing a split just a month ago, but I'm actually thinking now we should merge this with the main [[Affair with Mother|Incest]] article, possibly renaming it to 'Incest Saga' to cover the whole situation better. By the nature of the subjects of the articles, they have to discuss one another at length, making lots of redundant sections - but still, each page provides an incomplete picture of the timeline. I propose merging these articles, with separate sections for each stage of the timeline. Here's my basic idea for the structure:

1. Introduction (mostly copied from the Incest article)
2. Prior events (basically copied from the section of the same name on the [[Affair with Mother|Incest]] article)
3. A section covering the actual incest itself (from the incest article)
4. The leaked call and initial fallout (from the incest article)
5. Chris's time at the Inn and his arrest (cobbled together from parts of both articles)
6. Legal timeline (literally just the section from the Arrest & Court Case page)

Getting all the information in one place would help a lot with clarity imo. Thoughts? --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 22:44, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

: I agree with this, having two articles that seem to be covering the same info yet are separate is quite confusing. I don't have much to add to the formatting discussion but I think that merging the two articles and changing the name of the old one would be the smart thing to do. [[User:Good username|Good username]] ([[User talk:Good username|talk]]) 23:17, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
: I think that it may just be a better idea to rework the Incest page to be about Chris's fascination with the act (basically lifting most of the content from the [[Chris and sex]] page) and the communications revealing what he'd done, followed by a separate page covering the arrest. Otherwise, we're going to be dealing with a gigantic article with how long the legal coverage is going to end up being. [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] ([[User talk:KingClark|talk]]) 08:10, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
:: I'll echo the sentiment of KingClark. This page will most likely expand with a new section or two with the coming court case, I think that this page should be its own thing. The incest page should focus on Chris's past views of incest, his relationship with Barbra, and how Bella factored into all of that. [[User:Abaddon|Abaddon]] ([[User talk:Abaddon|talk]]) 08:18, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
::: I also like KingClark's suggestion. The only other thing I'd suggest in addition to that would be to move the section about the emergency protective order to this page, since it's more connected to the legal consequences than the act itself. The page could be renamed something like 'Incest legal consequences.' --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 13:49, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

== Rename ==

The fact that the title contains 'August 2021' is a little bit misleading, since it's way past August by now, and doesn't really describe the article well. I propose we rename the article to something a bit more accurate or concise. --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 21:04, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
* A creative name has to be made for it though: the Jail of Fail saga? The Prison-chu saga? The Passion of the Chris?—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Necromaster|Necromaster]] ([[User talk:Necromaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Necromaster|contribs]]) 22:00, 27 October 2021

== "Second and third letters from jail" section ==

I don't think they deserve their own section. It could easily be condensed to a few sentences in the previous section. The first letter deserves one because Chris incriminated himself so deeply, and thus is relevant to the court case. But these don't really hold much relevance to the actual topic. --[[User:4CentUser|4CentUser]] ([[User talk:4CentUser|talk]]) 16:26, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

:Sounds good. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 19:53, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

== Jail vs Prison ==

Someone pointed out that that there's inconsistent usage of jail/prison and suggested that "prison" be renamed to "jail" for now since Chris has not yet been sent to prison. Thoughts? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 19:01, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

:I already changed the article name. I also feel that we should change all instances of "prison" to "jail" for consistency's sake. [[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 19:06, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

== Deferral ==

Do we have any real proof Chris's case got deferred? According to Vinelink he's still in custody though that might not be accurate given the case being sealed. There's a lot of reasons we haven't heard from Chris since the grand jury and we really need to avoid accepting speculation as fact. The looking forward section might also need a rewrite. --[[User:Finnegan|Finnegan]] ([[User talk:Finnegan|talk]]) 00:38, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

:Heilberg had offered a motion for an autism disorder deferral, which is how we know that his case got deferred.[[User:PsychoNerd054|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 00:56, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

:Deleted some paragraphs from Looking Forward that are outdated at this point. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 03:22, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

== FAQ ==

Should the Kiwi Farms FAQ thread link stay or be removed? The author of the thread has noted that it is outdated now and has no plan to continue updating it. Alternatively, we could move the FAQ thread to an External Links section instead. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 19:39, 9 November 2022 (EST)

==Deletion of Looking Forward section==
Any objections to deleting that section? It is rather speculative and the assumptions are out-of-date. The case is also complicated with too many unknown factors. I think it would be best to continue noting down proceedings as they occur instead of trying to speculate. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 14:35, 17 January 2023 (EST)

==Timeline of in-jail events?==

I noticed this article focuses a lot more on the trial than Chris's actual life in jail; should we make a timeline for things that Chris has (even allegedly) gone through in jail? --[[User:Necromaster|Necromaster]] ([[User talk:Necromaster|talk]]) 11:49, 27th January 2023 (UTC)

:What kind of things? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 06:53, 27 January 2023 (EST)

:Things he himself has confessed to and suggested he did within jail itself, such as his in jail purchase history (or at least the ones we know about like the prayer rugs), the time he apparently drew a portal onto his cell wall, his banning from the basketball court (and alleged un-banning), the dates of his jail drawings ect. The more I think about it, the more difficult this idea would be to implement. [[User:Necromaster|Necromaster]] ([[User talk:Necromaster|talk]]) 23:37, 01st Febuary 2023 (UTC)

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Necromaster: I am not an architect and this section needs work :P

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{{quote|I'm still the mayor of CWCville. There [[Chris and English|is]] no elections.|[[Chris-chan Discusses...]], 2009}}

{{Quote|[Christine] has had emotions and more stress after being back in office, so she retired from being mayor, and gave the job back to Allison|Chris "retired" from being mayor of CWCville, 2017<ref>[[Sonichu 11]], pg. 46</ref>}}

'''CWCville''' (pronounced: [kwɪkvɪɫ], "quick-ville"), also stylized as '''Cwcville''', is an independent and self-governing city-state in northern [[Virginia]], [[United States]]. Despite its leader's claims to the contrary, the country is a totalitarian dictatorship - sporting a pervasive [[Chris and religion#Delusions of godhood|personality cult]] around the leader, [[Sonichu 10#Trial of the Asperpedia Four|no independent judiciary]] nor any [[CWCville Mayoral Office|separation of powers]], [[Mailbag 31|mass surveillance]] of the populace as well as largely autonomous [[chaotic combo|paramilitary organizations]]. The [[CWCville#Economy|economy]] is almost exclusively geared towards serving the whims of the ruling elite, with many of the country's citizens living in homeless shelters. Due to widespread discontent, elements of a façade democracy have been at times [[CWCville#Elections|introduced and retracted again]]. The country has engaged in [[4-cent_garbage.com|state terrorism]] against neighboring countries in the past.

As the name suggests, CWCville is derived from Chris's own initials, and serves as much of an exercise in [[Chris and his ego|boosting his ego]] as you'd expect. While the setting was initially believed exist to justify [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|his self-insert's presence]] in ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'', it was later learned that Chris's concept of a utopia had origins with a [[Lego]] city created in [[Chris's room|his own bedroom]], predating the webcomic. Additional lore provided over the years also indicated that Chris himself is not the founder of this city, but his father was, and he named it after his newborn son.

Chris believes that CWCville [[Chris and reality|actually exists]], and for many years used the city as a way to “[[Chris and coping|escape]]” from anything he [[Kick the Autistic|does not like]].<ref name="cwcville-reality">[[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence#THAT DOES NOT MATTER (CCS)]]</ref> Recently, Chris has used [[Dimensional Merge|other]] [[Messiah complex|means]] [[Spirit possession|of]] coping, and CWCville became part of the parallel dimension of [[C-197]], which he also believes to actually exist. Curiously, Chris has occasionally referred to [[Charlottesville, VA|Charlottesville]] as CWCville.

==Overview==
{{Quote|The city of CWCville, a vibrant community with happy people, [[boyfriend-free girl|cool chicks]] and a [[virgin with rage|frustrated male]]...|Narrator, [[Sonichu 2|''Sonichu'' #2]]<ref>[[:File:Sonichu - Episode 9, Page 6.jpg]]</ref>}}

[[Image:0823-EP12-5P6-3.jpg|thumb|left|The toys that started it all.]]
[[Image:CWCvilleMapProper.jpg|thumb|200px|Sonichu and Rosechu's welfare housing in relation to the rest of CWCville (note their postal code is the same as Chris's birthday and its address is nearly identical to his real address).]]
[[File:cwcville1.jpg|thumb|200px|A slightly more detailed (but no less disproportionate) drawing of CWCville.]]

CWCville is the setting of ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'', a city in Northern [[Virginia]] of which [[Chris]] was Mayor-for-Life. CWCville is where Chris portrays friends and enemies from his real life in scenarios altered to reflect [[Chris and his Ego|his bias toward himself]]. As his ideal metropolitan community, CWCville illustrates Chris's poor understanding of how a city actually functions. Like everything else that appears in [[Sonichu (comic)|his comic]], Chris believed for many years that CWCville actually exists, claiming at one point to be Mayor of CWCville “IN REAL LIFE”.<ref>[[Chris and reality#Fantasy and fiction]]</ref><ref name="cwcville-reality"/> As an entity Chris believes to be real, CWCville is a coping mechanism used to compensate for his unsatisfying actual life.

It has been argued that the unconquerable quality of Chris's [[Chris and his Ego|ego]] is bolstered by his ability to retreat to CWCville, where he can right all wrongs done to him. In his comics, we see him defeating [[Mary Lee Walsh]], with whom he holds an IRL grudge, beating the [[Jerkops]], and bringing his dead dog [[Patti Chandler]] back to life in the form of the anthropomorphic [[Patti-Chan]]. The main reason Chris can do such superhuman acts is due to the fact that in CWCville his will is supreme. This serves as a safety blanket that protects his physically and mentally feeble self from the outside world, where he holds no such power.

Chris is greatly concerned with people who are misinformed about any detail of CWCville, or conclude that it is anything but "a clean, secure, orderly and safe city."<ref>[[Mailbag 35#Except when half of it gets destroyed by giant robots]]</ref> After being coerced into declaring [[BILLY MAYS]] the new Mayor of CWCville,<ref>[[March 2009]]</ref> Chris repeatedly attempted to redact the statement claiming "I am still the mayor of CWCville, there is [sic] no elections."<ref> Chris-chan discusses </ref> <ref>[[Mumble 11|Mumble #11]]</ref><ref>[[CWC Update 1 July 2009]]</ref><ref name=p32>[https://web.archive.org/web/20160329034421/http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/Issue_9/Page_32 Issue 9/Page 32(Archive)]</ref> Chris seems to think that anyone who understands what CWCville is like will love it.

The seed of CWCville was planted early in Chris's life. An avid [[LEGO]] enthusiast, Chris eventually put all of his completed LEGO kits, original LEGO creations, and various handmade ''Sonichu'' items together on one table in his room. In [[February 2011]], Chris claimed to have finally disassembled the LEGO model, but he insisted that the city "still stands strong today within my own mind and hands."<ref>[[Autism Tutorial Part 2]]</ref>

The first official CWCville media was made in [[2001]].<ref>[[The City of Cwicville Tour!]]</ref> After toying with more phonetic spellings, Chris settled on "CWCville"<ref>[[Animal Crossing Documentary|''Animal Crossing'' Documentary]]</ref> in [[2003]]. This spelling features the initials of his full name and its pronunciation must be explained to others, indicative of CWCville's nature as a self-serving and insular fantasy.

Even in his ultimate self-serving fantasy in which he's given himself unchecked power for life, Chris's stunted imagination granted him only the title of mayor. Based on his maps, CWCkville consists of so few buildings that it would more accurately qualify as a village or hamlet, although this could be a consequence of his physical and mental limitations. He later created the land of [[RuleCWC]], a Sonichu [[Things Chris has ripped off|ripoff]] of Hyrule; a different character rules it instead of Chris's self-insert. All this suggests that at least in terms of his understanding of the world, Chris lags behind even an early [[Nathanael_Greene_Elementary_School|grade school]] age child.

In late-[[2017]] Chris ceased being merely the mayor of a town and instead became goddess of an [[C-197|entire dimension]]. Chris's earlier restraint may be due to his extremely limited worldview in which his entire world centers around his immediate surroundings, namely his hometown of [[Ruckersville]] and nearby [[Charlottesville]]. This weak sense of one's surroundings is a trait that is typically seen only in young children who lack basic life experience. One might hope that Chris's ability to understand scope and relevance had improved, but he has instead become only more delusional.

==Etymology==
One of Chris's [[The Wall of Originals|homemade ''Pokémon'' cards]] from [[2000]] featured a "'''Cwick City''' Gym", while [[City of Cwicville Tour!|an unfinished Game Boy Camera project]] dating from [[2001]] used the spellings "'''Cwicville'''" and "'''Cwickville'''". A sign on the door to his room used to read "Christian W. Chandler's Cwickville City Gym". It is unknown why he changed the spelling. Likely the alternate spelling just didn't stimulate [[Chris and his ego|his massive ego]] as much as his unaltered initials, even if it makes a lot less sense. (Although Christown, Chandlerville, etc. would have been just as good and made a lot more sense.)

== In-universe history ==

According to [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' 8]], Chris’s father, [[Bob Chandler]], founded CWCville in [[1982]].<ref>[[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu #8'']], [[Episode 18]], [[:File:Sonichu - Episode 18, Page 8.jpg|page 8]].</ref> It is unclear why it was not called Robertville: in fact, there are barely any records and symbols of the old regime – similar to the Roman practice of ''{{w|damnatio memoriae}}'', where all records of a traitor (statues, inscriptions, etc.) are erased after his death.

One fan theory is that Bob served as a regent while Chris was growing up, since there are {{w|Zaifeng, Prince Chun|real life}} {{w|Mswati III|examples}}: since Chris believes that CWCville is real, and that nearly all of the events in the comic mirror real life (albeit with a [[Chris and his ego|pro-Chris spin]]), it is safe to assume that Bob was alive when passing CWCville over to Chris. Another fan theory for Bob’s absence from the comics is that Chris overthrew Bob and secretly imprisoned him in an unknown location, but Chris’s stunted writing ability, laziness and ad-hoc manner of storytelling, indicates that Chris simply left Bob out of the comics.

== Geography and location ==

[[File:CWCville's zip code.png |thumb|CWCville's zip code, prior to the [[Idea Guy]] Saga.]]

CWCville began life as an infill city somewhere within the state of [[Virginia]],<ref>''[[Sonichu #3]]'', [[Sub-Episode 4]], page 4.</ref> but it became part of the larger [[C-197|C-197 dimension]] when Chris started promoting the [[Dimensional Merge]]. According to [[Sonichu 6|Sonichu #6]], one of the shortcut portals to CWCville was a dance mat behind the door to Chris's room.<ref>''[[Sonichu 6|Sonichu #6]]'', [[Episode 12.5]], page 8.</ref> Today, Chris uses so-called “[[Meditation#Third_eye|meditation]] sessions” to get there.

In [[2020]], Chris narrowed the “location” of the CWCville to somewhere “north to north-east” of {{w|Fredericksburg, Virginia}}:<ref>[[Discord Q&A 10#CWCville's Sister City (and Sports Teams)|Discord Q&A 10, “CWCville's Sister City (and Sports Teams)” section]]</ref> he later placed CWCville Beach by the shore of the Potomac River, east of Fredericksburg,<ref>[https://osm.org/go/ZZYfsOAc?m= OpenStreetMap location]</ref> claiming that the city is as large as Baltimore or New York City.<ref>[[The Journey to the Merge#Pebble Beach|The Journey to the Merge, “Pebble Beach” section]]</ref> The exact locations of key CWCville places as they relate to the [[Dimension 1218|real world]], such as the [[CWCville Mall]], remain unclear.

CWCville's {{w|ZIP Code}} was originally [[Chris's birthday|02024-1982]], an unused code {{w|List of ZIP Code prefixes#Starts with 0|available}} for Brockton, Massachusetts:<ref>''[[Sonichu #8]]'', [[Episode 17]], page 1.</ref> the correct ZIP code (at least during the infill era) would have started with 22, like [[Ruckersville]] (22968). Chris has changed the ZIP Code twice in [[2017]], as if it was possible through <s>dictatorial</s> mayoral decree:<ref>In reality, US law has several conditions for a town to change its ZIP Code.</ref> On 7 October the ZIP code was 16429, an unused code available for the vicinity of Erie, Pennsylvania, but a real ''[[Spanish|Mexican]]'' postal code for Tejomulco, a neighborhood in Mexico City.<ref>[[October 2017 Facebook posts#CWCville's zip code|October 2017 Facebook posts § CWCville's zip code]]</ref> On 19 November the ZIP Code changed to 69488, raising suspicions that the [[Idea Guys]] (who were active around the time) may be responsible: 69488 is the postal code for {{w|Birkenau (Odenwald)|Birkenau}} in Germany, which shares its name with the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration camp.

; Variations from the canon

There was an exception in [[Sonichu 1|''Sonichu'' #1]], which had a map that placed CWCville near Pallet Town and Giovanni's Gym in Viridian City, featured in the ''[[Pokémon]]'' series and located in Kanto, an area based on the {{w|Kantō region}} in Japan. The map also placed CWCville near {{w|Sonic Adventure#Gameplay|Station Square}}, from Sonic the Hedgehog's world.<ref>''[[Sonichu 1|''Sonichu'' #1]]'', [[Episode 5]], page 12.</ref>

===Architecture and City Structure===

[[Sonichu 1| In the earliest renditions of Sonichu]] the city of CWCville looked to have far more in common with a small village rather than something that would resemble a city; the "city" at this point in time appears to consist of little more than 8 locations (3 to 4 of which are residential, 3 private businesses, station square and the [[Zapbud]] field which may count as public property) poorly connected to each over via the use of dirt roads that don't seem to quite fit together properly.

Evidentially after this issue, the city saw some major construction projects drastically expanding the city into a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brutalist_architecture| brutalist's] [[Cwcisms| sticky dream]].

The City appears to be [[Autism| strictly segmented]] into numerous districts, starting from the left the CWCville mall/mayors office stands alone surrounded only by (presumably) it's own car park taking up a total 0.25 square miles or 0.402336² km, across the street there is the CWCville park which takes up the exact same amount of space.

Next door to the mall is the "Subdivision" areas which act as residential buildings for some of the cities residents including [[Sonichu]] himself and his family.

Further right we find 2 more commercial buildings, on the northern side is the target mini-mart and the southern side is the Wal-Mart mini mart; despite each being 1/4 the size of the CWCville mall they both seemingly lack parking areas.

Even further to the right there appears to be the main city; the city itself apparently stretches an exact 10 square miles on both sides of the street and consists almost entirely of skyscraper buildings and brutalist block style residential areas which presumably the lower classes of CWCvillies society call home.

And finally the furthest area apears to be mountain range, also a quarter mile in size.

Despite the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germania_(city)| Germania] style of restructuring; the roads remain badly thought out and barely usable. Although the roads now actually utilized tarmac instead of simple dirt there appears to be only one major road leading through the entire city from beginning to end, with no consideration for pedestrians or even how cars meant to turn around since the city ends abruptly against a mountain. With the city cut directly in half the only plausible way anyone from the northern half would be on foot since any attempt whatsoever to cross in a car would best case scenario bring the entire cities traffic to a halt.

==Government and politics==
[[Image:CWCvilleArea.jpg|thumb|Map of CWCville area. Note how [[Sonic]]'s house is bigger than the entirety of Pallet Town. Also, if you look at Station Square, you'll notice Chris's obsession with the [[Twin Falling Towers|World Trade Center]]. Also observe that Chris [[Obesity|needs an arrow]] [[Chris and his Ego|pointing to himself]]]]

CWCville is in theory part of the [[United States of America]], but in practice it seems to be a quasi-independent city-state, similar to [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piEayQ0T-qA Hong Kong or Macau] in [[China]]. The city does not follow American electoral law, uses its own currency, and has several characteristics anathema to [[United States of America|U.S. ideals]]. The city seems more like the private domain of the Mayor than part of a larger federation.

[[Image:CWCville.jpg|thumb|This is what a typical city looks like after being nuked.]]
[[File:Riots_in_cwcville_SB.jpg|thumb|An artist's representation of a riot in CWCville. [[August 2020 social media posts#Very Distant alt-timeline|Chris did not approve.]]]]

The Mayor attempts to refute accusations of dictatorship, (incorrectly<ref>*The {{w|Assad family|Assad dynasty}} in Syria *The {{w|Jean-Claude Duvalier|Duvalier}} {{w|François Duvalier|dynasty}} in Haiti *The {{w|Laurent-Désiré Kabila|Kabila}} {{w|Joseph Kabila|dynasty}} in the Democratic Republic of Congo *The {{w|Kim dynasty (North Korea)|Kim dynasty}} in North Korea The {{w|Pahlavi dynasty}} in Iran </ref>) claiming that dictatorships are never hereditary, while he [[Mailbag 34#Apparently North Korea's not a dictatorship|inherited the town from his father]].

[[File:SchuComic10P78.jpg|thumb|left|The Mayor addresses his people (DP [[Nazis|Leni Riefenstahl]], 1935, colorized).]]

Contrary to what Chris may believe, a self-proclaimed police force doesn't take orders from the civil authorities and lock people up at random. [[Mary Lee Walsh|The dean]] of [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|the only college]] is leading a hopeless resistance and is vilified in the [[Sonichu (comic)|mayoral-controlled press]]. [[Attraction Sign|Soliciting sex]] is legal in CWCville, while possession of [[tobacky|tobacco]] is a very serious offense. [[Alcohol]] was illegal until 2009, when the ban was [[Chris's Big Night Out|rescinded]]. Laws have been enacted to persecute [[homosexuals]], and [[Mailbag 31|psychic surveillance is used to monitor sexual purity]]. This constant Orwellian surveillance, which is obviously done under the guise of "protecting" the citizens, flies in the face of the basic human right to privacy. Since there is no plausible way to oversee or contest an official with the capability of ultra-human powers, it also effectively elevates the official above law. The Mayor has also hinted that the Electric Hedgehog Pokémon, a group of civilian defense contractors, have [[Chris and the Law#In the comic|immunity from prosecution]].<ref>[[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 3]]</ref> This goes against the concept of supremacy of law that is the very foundation of modern societies; some sociologists have pointed out that this quality of CWCville is in fact the hallmark of all police states. It must be reiterated that Chris genuinely believes that CWCville is a good place to live.

Despite all this perceived military and law enforcement might, the police and mercenaries demonstrably offer little real protection or competence: troublemakers like [[Wes Iseli]] ruin weddings with near impunity, and the [[Mary Lee Walsh|dissident leaders]] remained at large [[Sonichu 10|until recently]].

CWCville's court system is a joke. Walsh was captured, deposed, and sent to a maximum security prison without a trial. The [[Jerkop|Jerkops]] and [[Manajerks]] are deposed, yet were supposedly allowed to go scot-free. However, when [[Simonla Rosechu]] was murdered by a Voltorb, four people — [[Evan]], [[Alec Benson Leary]], Sean, and [[Mao]] — are arrested and subjected to a show trial less than a week later, despite earlier receiving a public pardon from the Mayor. The judge is biased in Chris's favor, when all judges should be impartial. Sean is permitted to defend himself and his fellow co-defendants, despite being clearly under the influence of drugs. Nobody suggests appointing a public defender for the four. The prosecutor adds to the charges, considering slander via the [[Asperpedia]] (which was destroyed by Chris) punishable by death, when it is in actuality a mild offense in most jurisdictions. Evidence gathered using [[Magi-Chan|Magi-Chan's]] psychic powers is considered admissible in court. When the four are found guilty by a clearly biased jury, they are immediately executed in cruel and inhumane ways.

CWCville also pays for the [[TrollBusters]]' private jet,<ref name="Jackie Chat #3">[[Jackie Chat 3|Jackie Chat #3]]</ref> and the Mayor's hedgehog friends receive free housing, credit cards and other gifts from his office, not unlike Soviet nomenklatura.

[[File:Mayor signer.png|thumb|200px|Charlottesville's Mayor Signer, also opposed to Pmurt.]]

In [[February 2017]], prompted by President [[Pmurt]], Chris declared CWCville to be a sanctuary city,<ref>[[February 2017 Facebook Posts#CWCville is a sanctuary city]]</ref> [[Things Chris has ripped off|mirroring a proposal by Charlottesville's real-life mayor]]. He also suggested that CWCville does not recognize Trump as president at all, lending further credence to the theory that CWCville is not actually part of the United States. Strangely, he claims that Vladimir Putin, the real-life president of Russia, is the president of the United states.

Between his Facebook posts and new issues of ''Sonichu'', Chris has revealed significant changes to CWCville since [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], showing that during the hiatus of [[Sonichu 11]], he had simply continued his fantasy/coping mechanism in his [[autism|mind]].

*Chris is no longer the mayor. [[Allison Amber]], formerly the mayor's secretary, took up the role. The circumstances of Chris's resignation are unclear, and it is unknown whether Amber was elected or if CWCville remains a dictatorship.

*Chris gave himself the position of the city's [[Ego|creator]] instead, since holding the imaginary responsibilities of a small-town mayor is [[stress|too much]] for him. Of course, his new position still earns Chris VIP treatment from the townspeople.

*The city has become ''even more'' of a police-state, with [[Magi-Chan]] reading the minds of the populace to determine if anybody poses a threat. Ironically, this solution is far more extreme than anything President Trump has done, including his executive order to shut down entry from select countries, which Chris has criticized.

*On the other hand, [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]] shows CWCville celebrating its [[SLGBTQ]] pride festival, indicating a reversal of Chris's long-standing homophobia and possibly a continuation of Chris's repeal-by-fiat in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]] of the city's anti-gay legislation.

===Elections===
According to the [[Samantha Thaddeus]] e-mails, the government was a "King/Queen thing" for which there is no voting.<ref>[[Samantha Thaddeus E-mails]]</ref> The non-elected leader does what he pleases as Mayor-for-Life with supreme power, "advised" by an elected House of Representatives which sits at the CWCville Trade Center Building.<ref>[[Mailbag 5|Mailbag #5]]</ref> The right to vote has "even" been extended to [[Niggos|those of African descent]] (though [[Women's rights|apparently not to women]], as some women are seen [[Sonichu 8#Episode_17:_Epilogue|protesting]] in order to gain suffrage in CWCville). Despite allowing elections for Board of Director Members,<ref>[[Mailbag 37|Mailbag #37]]</ref> Chris shows that they still hold no authority, existing as a purely advisory committee which the Mayor is not obligated to listen to. For example, he does not discuss attacking the [[4-cent garbage.com]] building with them, he just tells them the "game plan" as a ''fait accompli''. In all, CWCVille's government more resembles an absolute monarchy or the Roman Republic under Caesar than any American polity.

Chris originally planned to hand over the role of Mayor to [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|his sister Crystal]] in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]],<ref>[[Miyamoto_Saga#From_Chris_to_Miyamoto]]</ref> but later decided not to. On 3 [[March 2009]], Chris announced that BILLY MAYS was the new Mayor of CWCville. The next day, Chris revoked his edict that made MAYS the new Mayor, establishing a government-in-exile in [[Chris's room|his bedroom]]. Most legal scholars, however, argue that since Chris was not wearing the [[Medallion]], which Chris has indicated is necessary for a video to be TRUE and HONEST, his statements to the contrary are false and therefore not legally binding, meaning BILLY MAYS was still the Mayor of CWCville. On 28 [[June 2009]], BILLY MAYS died in his mayoral mansion, allegedly due to a cocaine overdose, but the hand of Chandler was suspected. The city was plunged into mourning. Chris wasted no time in seizing control of CWCville, announcing during a [[Chris chan Discusses|post-coup interview]] that {{w|Doublethink|he was always the ruler}} and that there would be no further elections.

However, Chris eventually lost interest in being the mayor. By some point prior to 2017, he handed over the role to [[Allison Amber]].

[[File:CWCville mayor Brendan Frasier.png|thumb|200px|CWCville's mayor, 2017 - 2021.]]

In November 2017, an [[Idea Guy]] tricked Chris into believing that an election was to take place, with several candidates running.<ref>[[November 2017 tweets#CWCville_mayoral_election]]</ref> He created a poll on Twitter for people to vote for the new mayor. The candidates were:

*[[Brendan Fraser]] - An American actor known for his role in the ''Mummy'' movies, who became a meme due to his career decline and heavy alimony payments ([https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/brendan-frasers-alimony-just-fuck-my-shit-up link])
*[[Mao|Mao Zedong]] - communist leader of [[China]] between 1949 and 1976
*[[Allison Amber]] - then mayor of CWCville, formerly Chris's secretary
*{{w|Augusto Pinochet}} - Chilean dictator from 1973 to 1990
*{{w|Vladimir Putin}} - Current President of Russia

A few hours later, he deleted his poll and created a new one, claiming some of the candidates had dropped out. His new candidates were:

*Bob McKendrick - A character from the video game ''PAYDAY 2'', who tried running for mayor of the DC Metro area
*Vladimir Putin
*Brendan Fraser

He later deleted this poll as well. Brendan Fraser won the election and took office as mayor.<ref>[[December 2017 Facebook posts#Jamsta molested Punchy]]</ref>

Two days later he posted on Twitter that an election for new Chief of CWCville Police Department would take place. His candidates were<ref>[[November 2017 tweets#CWCville_Chief_of_Police_election]]</ref>:

*[[Wikipedia:Manuel Pardo (serial killer)|Manuel Pardo Jr]] - a [[jerkop]] and serial killer executed in 2012
*[[Ian Brandon Anderson]]
*{{w|Manuel Noreiga|Man-Ewell Noriega}} [''sic''] - Dictator of Panama from 1983 to 1989
*{{w|Ed Gein|Edward Geen}} [''sic''] - A notorious murderer and body snatcher who was known as the real American Psycho.

Ian Brandon Anderson ended up winning with 65% of the votes.

In April 2021, Chris stated the current mayor to be [[Mary Lee Walsh]].<ref>[[April 2021 social media posts#Twilight Sparkle and CWCVille]]</ref> While in jail, Chris said that Walsh remained mayor: ''"Who has Time for Elections when us Goddesses Defend Cwcville (The City Of) from Rei freaking Ryghts, Eggman, Bowser, Giovanni, and so-on on occassion, and we have the Dimension Merge Completed and the Collective Shift in Progress, then we have my Second Coming on 1218 Earth. Not to Mention the Damage Control and Prevention that are beyond Non(Super)-Powerful Individuals' Control, anyway."''<ref>[[Jail Letter - 8 November 2021 (RadioRabbit0)]]</ref>

===Prison Camps===
{{Main|Operation BARBarossa}}

As of November 2017, CWCville also houses multiple prison camps on the outskirts, where enemies from the [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|Gamindustri]] war are sent to be reformed.

==Economy==

CWCville runs under a command economy which Chris has near-total control over: the [[KCWC|radio station]] and [[CWC Cola|soft drink company]] are named after the Mayor, which indicates either nationalization of normally private businesses or rampant cronyism. The banning of goods that the Mayor disapproves of has also contributed to the city's financial troubles. [[Tobacky|Tobacco]], unhealthy as it may be, is illegal to sell, possess or consume, despite the multibillion dollar value of the industry, which by all reasonable analysis, means it is very likely one of the single most-smuggled contraband items into CWCville writ large, fetching black marketeers windfall profits.

As of [[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas|Christmas 2009]], ten homeless shelters have been set up: Chris himself claims that these ten-story "soup hotels" house a population of 900-1,800 indigents, and come equipped with free cable TV.<ref>[[Mailbag 20|Mailbag #20]]</ref> This means that the small city of CWCville has a homeless population of at least 10,000 (in comparison, the entire nation of Japan has just over 6,000<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_homeless_population</ref>). The Mayor's personal friends, such as [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]], live in state-sponsored, suburban housing. He also supplied furniture for [[Wild Sonichu]].<ref>[[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]], [[Episode 19]], Page 21</ref>

Strangely enough, Sonichu and Rosechu, both being too lazy to work, get $3,500 per month, (as shown in [[Mailbag 21]]), which is unusually a large sum of [[Chris and money|money]] for a [[monthly tugboat]]. This, also coupled with the unusually high homelessness rate, could tell us that CWCville possibly severely overtaxes its citizens to feed its [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|delusional, power-hungry dictator's]] multiple [[Dating Education|vanity]] [[TrollBusters|projects]].

Chris claims that the city has "a lot of [[Kevin the Jew|jews]] and [[Inos|immigrants]], like new york," and is on the stock exchange.<ref name="Jackie Chat #3"/>

=== Currency ===

[[File:Cwccash.jpg|thumb|CWCville currency]]

CWCville also mints its own currency, the '''CWCville quarter'''. It first came to prominence in ''[[Sonichu 9|Sonichu #9]]'', and comes in only two coins: the C-Quarter and the W-Quarter. Ten C-Quarters make one W-Quarter, indicating that Chris has [[Honor roll|no idea what "quarter" means]]. The W-Quarter is round and golden in color, with a silver edge and a red "W", while the C-Quarter is C-shaped and sky blue with a silver edge. Both appear to reference Chris's publishing house logo at the time, which notably appeared on the [[CWCipedia]]. CWCville still issue fines in US dollars for unknown reasons: most likely, to shore up foreign <s>currency reserves</s> spending money for a tottering dictatorship.

According to Chris on 19 November 2019,<ref>[https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1196903997300498434 Tweet] by @CPU_CWCSonichu, on 19 November 2019.</ref> and assuming that {{w|SIX Interbank Clearing}} chooses the W-Quarter as the main currency unit, the official exchange rate is {{abbr|CWQ|CWCville quarter}} 1 = {{w|US Dollar|{{abbr|USD|US Dollar}}}} 2.50,<ref>CW is actually the country code for Curaçao, and the currency code is merely for demonstration purposes.</ref> which puts the CWCville quarter only behind {{w|Kuwaiti dinar|Kuwait}}, {{w|Bahraini dinar|Bahrain}} and {{w|Omani rial|Oman}} in terms of purchasing power.<ref>[https://www.xe.com/currencytables/?from=USD&date=2020-01-01 XE.com exchange rates] for 1 January 2020 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20200410043434/https://www.xe.com/currencytables/?from=USD&date=2020-01-01 archived] on 10 April 2020).</ref> In reality, the irrational command economy and the ongoing [[Financhu Crisis|debt crisis]] in real-life means that the parallel (black market) rates may command a huge discount… {{w|Hungarian pengő#End of the pengő|something like}} {{abbr|USD|US Dollar}} 1 = {{abbr|CWQ|CWCville quarter}} 4×1029.

== The Invasion of CWCville ==
{{main|Sonichu 13}}
[[File:IdeaGuyMap.jpeg|thumb|A map created by [[Idea Guy]] Joshua Wise]].
After years of insanity and borderline totalitarianism, things finally seemed to be improving for the citizens of CWCville. Chris had stepped down as mayor, Magi-Chan was no longer spying on the populace due to his duties as Chris' husband, and beloved American film actor [[Brendan Fraser]] was elected as Chris' successor, ensuring CWvCille would no longer be an ego-driven police state and would also be protected from evil mummies. Under Fraser's benevolent rule, it seemed like CWCville would finally be a free and happy place. Unfortunately, this newfound peace and prosperity would not last long, due to the corruptions of the Idea Guys and their ween ideas. The Idea Guys convinced Chris that CWCville was under attack by various different villains and factions, placing it in a frenzied state of war. First invaded by villains from Hyperdimension Neptunia, the invaders were quickly beaten back and put into CWCville's newly established prison camps.

Later, the city was invaded by the neighboring nation of Australatina. The Australatinas managed to wipe out most of CWCville's military, who were forced to fight a war on two fronts when the city erupted into mass riots. The Underground tunnels beneath CWCville (presumably created by Simonla who didn't want to ride the fucking bus like a normal person) collapsed, causing mass devastation and splitting the city into two sides: East and West. The Australatinas then pledged their loyalty to invading Nazis, who began ethically cleansing CWCville. They successfully captured most of Chris' hedgehog Pokemon and wiped out most of the wild Pokemon around CWCville. Chris' characters were brutally executed but quickly respawned. The female Sonichus were all raped and impregnated until they were freed by Chris. The Nazis were finally beaten back and the city was rebuilt.

Despite all of their reckless bumbling, the Idea Guys managed to do something no one could ever imagine was possible: make CWCville an even worse shithole. Sure, under Chris' reign the city was a manchild's playground escape fantasy with Orwellian undertones, but at least you could get a job at Taco Bell and live a reasonably peaceful life if you didn't smoke or call the mayor a tard. Once the Idea Guys took over, the city became a living hell filled with constant death and destruction with forced labor, rape, and death camps. The lesson is simple: being ruled by a bumbling and incompetent but well-meaning manchild might be bad, but being ruled by murderous nazis is at least moderately worse.

== CWCville's Restoration ==
Chris has been rather inconsistent with what parts of Sonichu 13 were actually canon and which parts he discarded. Regardless, the city was restored to its Pre-War state and all the nightmarish changes were reversed. Presumably, the timeline was fixed and all the characters returned to their normal lives, and [[Brendan Fraser]] was still the mayor, with Ian Brandon Anderson serving as his Chief of Police.

With the Nazis, evil CPUs and reality-warping demons all defeated and a fantastic actor once again leading the city, CWCville has presumably finally become a somewhat decent place, even if everything there is ass-backwards and totally absurd. Chris has written very little about CWCville following the events of Issue 13. However, Chris claimed that he attended Babscon there in 2020. CWCville, and presumably all of Dimension C-197 was totally unaffected by the COVID-19 pandemic.

== Twin towns ==

[[File:1920px-2008-0830-Charlottesville-DowntownMall.jpg|thumb|left|CWCville, as portrayed by Chris in his videos.]]

CWCville appears to be twinned with [[Charlottesville, Virginia]], the largest and most familiar urban environment in Chris's life.

Chris has made many connections between the two cities, mainly as a result of his narrow perception of the outside world: for example, Chris presented footage of Charlottesville as that of CWCville,<ref>[[Rollin' and Trollin']]</ref> while CWCville hosts the Dogwood Festival, which is an Charlottesville tradition.<ref name=p32/> Chris also stated that CWCville is as important and worthy of respect as every American city that begins with "C", but mentioned only Charlottesville by name, calling it "the most important one" of these "C-Villes"; as if Chicago, Cincinnati, Colorado Springs, Corpus Christi, [[Ohio trip|Columbus or Cleveland]], for example, were so much less important than it.<ref>[[Do Not Dis C Ville]]</ref>

==Gallery==
<center><gallery>
Image:EmperorChris.png|How Chris sees himself as CWCville's ruler.
Image:Chris Jong-Il.jpg|Artist's depiction of CWCville's beloved Mayor.
Image:Big-brother-is-watching-you-94815124855.png|The future of CWCville.
Image:0858-Cwcville7.JPG|The great <strike>dictator</strike> director on his throne.
Image:CWCville Degeneration.jpg|An artist's depiction of CWCville after Chris passes away and it is forgotten.
Image:3adc9ab34027a8ea714b6570897088e8-png.jpg|City map, with aerial photo recreation below.
Image:Cwcville_Map_Version_3.png|Alternate city map, showing the rural areas around the city and how it connects to other areas.
File:Chris_ruling_cwcville_SB.jpg|Chris ruling as mayor of CWCville.
</gallery></center>

==Fan videos==
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = CWCville Tour Video
| ytid = bbHypp3ziBQ
| maker = MycalFelps
| stardate = 11 [[May 2010]]
}}

==See also==
* [[CWCville Shopping Center]]
* [[CWCville Mayoral Office]]

== Sources ==
<references/>

==External links==
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20130210092136/http://www.freewebs.com/cwcvillechronicles/ CWCville Chronicles] (archive from 10 Feb 2013)

{{CWCverse}}
{{Mayors of CWCville}}
{{Fantasies}}
{{Sonichu}}

[[Category:Pages with fan videos]]
[[Category:Fictional places]]
[[Category:Concepts influenced by Idea Guy]]

Praetor

2023-01-18T10:38:11Z

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{{Incomplete|Pictures of Jail Saga merchandise}}
{{Unreliable|type=cred|The members are all infamous attention seekers, and merely got in touch with Chris with the sole intent of piggybacking off his notoriety on the internet.|The members will occasionally say edgy and disgusting things purely for shock value.}}
{{quote|(Editor's Note: All descriptions, titles, and product designs come directly from Chris Chan. These are hand done, and will therefore reflect the "Chris Chan Style." Expect defects, burns, and a general lapse in quality.)|Praetor's Etsy account, confirming that the products being shipped will be dogshit, even by Chris's standards}}

{{Infobox Organization
|name = Praetor
|image = PraetorLogo.jpg
|saga = {{saga|praetor|cn}}
}}
[[File:Praetor Instagram tags copy-min.png|250px|thumb|Three of the Praetor members, pictured with Chris. Not pictured is member owen_sundstrom.]]

'''Praetor''' (sometimes referred to as "'''The Praetors'''") is a group of edgy [[enablers]] who came in contact with Chris in order to degrade and make money from him [[Idea Guys |(wait a second this sounds familiar)]], some of whom live around [[wikipedia:Goochland, Virginia|Goochland, Virginia]], who produce and sell ''Sonichu''-themed products with Chris's permission, giving him a cut of the profits in exchange. In [[October 2020]], photos were discovered of the group posing with Chris on [[Instagram]]. Although Praetor was "officially partnered" with Chris, things like how they began contact with Chris, or their true relation to him are unknown.

On 19 [[October 2020]], the Praetor group posted their announcement of a collaboration with Chris onto [[Instagram]] and [[Twitter]], showing Chris along with two girls and a guy, who are tagged on the account on Instagram. Chris also held a [[Sonichu's Update on the Dimension Merge and Sermon - October, 2020|sermon]] with the audience being the Praetors at the Goochland public library, which Chris uploaded on 8 [[November 2020]]. A picture of a member of Praetor purchasing a stun gun and a [[Pikachu]] mask was posted on 15 November 2020, which Praetor later claimed to be promotion for sales of autographed tasers. In February 2021, Chris wished to borrow a [[taser]] from Praetor to tase his [[Magic stones|collection of quartz crystals]] to activate the [[Dimensional Merge]] (with Chris also considering using the taser on himself, an idea Praetor objected to out of concern for Chris's safety),<ref name=tasercall>[[Taser Discussion]]</ref> though Chris's taser plans seemingly fell through.

Praetor was a target of harassment by the [[Watchmen]] group, believed by them to be a group of [[Idea Guy]]-Esque trolls. Many rumors about the group were subsequently spread around by Watchmen leader [[Naught]], Watchmen member [[MKRNightVee]], [[Larry Vaughn]], and [[Bella]] following the release of a clip of a call between Chris, Praetor leader Caden Peck, and many Watchmen members.

On 29 July 2021, a [[Incest_Call#Original_leak|four-minute call]], where Chris admitted to having [[Affair with Mother|sexual intercourse with his mother]], was leaked. It was soon revealed that the caller was Praetor member [[Isabella Loretta Janke]].

In [[Jail Letter - 18 January 2022]], Chris mentioned that he wished to get back in contact with Praetor. Later that year, Praetor restocked their [[Etsy]] shop with new items, including art pieces Chris mailed to them from [[jail]].



==Known members==
{{Quote|In the group, [[Praetor#Annie_Ikenberry|Annie]] is very much psychically able. [[Praetor#Owen_Sundstrom|Owen]] is like the magician of the group; among his skill set, he can also make a variety of special teas and such that can be like potions and elixirs. Cabell is also psychically inclined, but she's the artist.<ref group = note>"Cabell" is speculated to be a nickname for [[Bella]].</ref> [[Caden]] is very open-minded, and the brains and business.|Chris<ref>[[Naught DMs]]</ref>}}
===Caden Peck===
{{Infobox Person
|image = CadenPeck.png|100px
|name = Caden Peck
|gender = Male
|aliases = Praetor tinyhorse01
|saga = {{saga|praetor|cn}}, {{saga|jail|cn}}
}}


'''Caden Peck''' ('''tinyhorse01''') is a co-founder and the leader of Praetor, as well as one of Chris's "business associates". According to Chris in the [[2021 Jail Call]], Caden is responsible for scanning his work to later publish. A few [[Larry Vaughn DMs#Contact Info - Discord|leaked DMs]] between Chris and [[Larry Vaughn]] also revealed plans to create a [[Discord]] server. Caden was also in charge of the Praetor accounts which had directly interacted with Chris.

He was also the sole Praetor member involved in the [[Taser Call]], being accompanied by several Watchmen members like The WCT and MKR.

Chris stated in a 12 July 2021 chat that Caden was one of the people he had asked for help with getting together a posse for "sharing and protection" at [[Everfree Northwest]], as [[Jacob Sockness]] had previously declared that he'd also attend the event.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Sockness alert]]</ref>

In a jail letter from [[July 2022]], Chris claimed that Caden was helping him raise a $150,000 fundraiser so that he can go back home after he has been released from jail.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 29 July 2022]]</ref> After [[Kenneth Engelhardt]] had criticized Caden's actions, Chris berated Kenneth, telling him that he shouldn't be "judging Caden in that vain[sic]".

===Annie Ikenberry===
[[File:AnnieIkenberry.jpg|thumb|left|100px]]

'''Annie Ikenberry''' ('''annirenee''') is an OnlyFans camgirl who was recruited by Praetor in order to "lure in" Chris. In a 17 [[February 2021]] discussion with the [[Watchmen]], Chris confessed that he had feelings for her, because of course he did.<ref>[[Lonely feelings]]</ref>

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===Owen Sundstrom===
[[File:OwenSundstrom.png|thumb|left|100px]]
'''Owen Sundstrom''' ('''owen_sundstrom''') is a co-founder of Praetor, according to Larry Vaughn. Not much else is known about him other than him posing with Chris during a sermon about the Merge.

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===Unnamed Member===
A blond woman pictured in the group photo posing with Chris. An Instagram tag was associated with the photo but was censored by the CWCki due to Praetor having mistagged the photo with an unrelated account. Watchmen members have also misidentified the woman as being Bella when Chris told Kyle about the animated intro she made for him.{{Cite}}

===Isabella Loretta Janke===
[[File:Bella.png|thumb|100px]]
{{Main|Isabella Loretta Janke}}
'''Isabella Loretta Janke''' collaborated with Praetor to make the [[Chris Chan Sonichu Intro animation|animated Chris-Chan Sonichu Introduction video]], and had an unclear relationship with them going forward. Bella claims that she cut ties with them early in 2021.<ref name=animation>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Bella)#Chris Chan Animation]]</ref> Chris claimed in [[Jail Letter - 13 June 2022|a jail letter]] that Bella was not an active participant in Praetor's sales, and that her primary contribution was her work on the animated intro.

==Etsy shop==

On 11 December 2020, Chris advertised for their Etsy shop, linking to [[medallion|medallions]] produced by the group, explaining that he was currently unable to produce the medallions himself and so outsourced the production to Praetor, mentioning he would get a cut of the profits in exchange.<ref>[[December 2020 social media posts#Praetor sells medallions]]</ref> In February 2021, Chris mentioned he had been paid $400 out of $6,000 Praetor had made.<ref name=tasercall></ref>

The account on Etsy is also named Praetor, and they are the owner of OfficialCWCmart. As of 15 December, they have sold 151 medallions, and are considered a bestseller.<ref>https://www.etsy.com/listing/904683630/official-chris-chan-sonichu-medallion</ref>

==The Golden Church of Sonichu==
{{Main|Golden Church of Sonichu messages}}

'''The Golden Church of Sonichu''' was a Discord server created by Praetor. Customers gained access to it after purchasing a Golden Sonichu medallion from their Etsy page.

{{quote|NOTE: When the Golden Medallions were first introduced, they functioned as a ticket into Christine's Golden Sonichu Discord, the beginnings of her attempt at crowdfunding an actual church. This is no longer the case.}}

The server sat in limbo following Chris's [[Jail_Saga#Arrest|arrest]], with users primarily posting about Chris's antics in jail.

==Praetor and Tasers==

{{Main|Taser}}

[[File:praetor cart.jpg|thumb|What do they plan to do with [[Captain's Log|that taser]]?]]

{{quote|we had a whole discussion about why it's a bad idea.|Caden, one of Praetor's members, trying to talk Chris out of tazing himself.<ref name=tasercall>[[Taser Discussion]]</ref>}}

On 15 [[November 2020]], Praetor posted a screenshot of an online shopping service's shopping cart - in the cart was a Pikachu mask and a VIPERTEK VTS-989 560 BV stun gun. Praetor stated:

{{quote|As Praetor, we always work hard to produce the best videos we can. Good works are in progress!|Praetor on an Instagram post featuring a Pikachu mask and stun gun.<ref>https://www.instagram.com/p/CHms9kGlhc3/ (archive: https://archive.ph/K6ojQ)</ref>}}

Praetor later claimed this was for promotion of sales of autographed tasers.

In [[February 2021]], Chris stated that he wanted to borrow one of Praetor's tasers to stun his [[Gate Crystal]] and [[Celestial Key]] [[quartz crystals]] in an attempt to activate the [[Dimensional Merge]].<ref>[[Thinking with Portals#Praetor and the Taser‎]]</ref>

Watchmen leader [[Naught]] then created a vicious rumor, stating that [[Larry Vaughn]] was in on a plot with Praetor when he shared bits of a conversation that he had with Chris regarding his intention to shock his crystals.

In [[2022]], Praetor began selling tasers previously autographed by Chris on their Etsy shop, supposedly for the purpose of simulating "zapping to the extreme" for buyers. Those were posted with the following description:<ref>https://www.etsy.com/listing/1224899249/chris-chan-taser ([https://archive.ph/kHdM1 archive])</ref>

{{quote|Recent Christorians may recall the Taser Incident, where the Praetor group while working with Christine posted images of tasers onto their respective Instagrams and Twitters. Through leaked chats and discussion, it was hypothesized that the Praetor group was planning to tase Chris on video. This lead to a flurry of drama and doxing, and the tasers were forgotten.

The tasers had originally been intended for sale, as signed ones would be put out for purchase. To avoid negative attention, they were boxed and stored away to wait until the smoke cleared. Now, these zappy little buggers are available for sale once again!

Each Taser is hand signed by Christine herself, emblazoned with her autograph and the iconic phrase "Zappin' it Up!" Per Christine's suggestion.

Now you too can zap it to the extreme. Handle with care, while these are collectables they can be recharged and may have residual charge left over.

Package comes with:
-Autographed Taser
-Charging cable}}

A post from their Golden Church of Sonichu server has them also promoting flamethrowers.

==Jail Saga==

Despite being in Jail, Chris was still able to get in contact with Praetor members, allowing them to promote art and artifacts that he left for them.

===Medallions===
{{See also|Jail Medallion Promotions}}

In early May 2022, three different versions of Sonichu medallions were listed for sale on Praetor's Etsy shop. The medallions were apparently made prior to Chris's arrest and had been stored in an unknown rented location and at the Chandler residence until their listings.

====Regular Medallion====
[[File:Sonichu medallion etsy dec 2020.jpg|thumb|200px|The Etsy [[medallion]] in question]]
Seemingly identical to the medallions sold during the first run of sales, these were not crafted by Chris. The price reflects this, as these were the cheapest of the group of medallions. Nevertheless, in [[Jail_Medallion_Promotions#Regular_Medallion|an undated audio recording released alongside them]], Chris referred to these medallions as [[True and Honest|legit and authentic]].
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====Handcrafted Medallion====

In contrast to the regular medallions, these medallions were apparently made by Chris. The medallions are of a [[art|noticeably different style]] compared to their cheaper counterparts and are adorned with Chris's signature on the back, so their description may very well be truthful.

A handcrafted medallion was included with each purchase of "Golden Church of Sonichu Cult Robes." The robes came in two sizes. Red robes were large, while blue robes were extra large. No smaller sizes were offered, as "Golden Church members were assumed to be naturally, uh, [[obesity|large people]]."<ref>https://www.etsy.com/listing/1210942858/golden-church-of-sonichu-cult-robes</ref> A yellow mask with red Sonichu-style cheeks was also bundled with each robe.

==== Megastone Medallion====

The most expensive of the medallions, the megastone medallions were a variant of the handcrafted medallions. In addition to being signed by Chris, the back of the medallions contained a "megastone" which [[Jail_Medallion_Promotions#Megastone_Medallion|Chris verbally claimed to]] "have personally blessed and programmed each and every one of." As such, wearers could [[Magical thinking|"really […] feel the spiritual aura and charge and vibrations within]]."

===Jail Art===
{{Main|Praetor Jail Art}}

Chris created artwork during [[Jail Saga|his stay in jail for incest]]. He sent the art to Praetor for them to sell on their Etsy page.

==Gallery==
<center><gallery>
File:Tinyhorse02.png|Look at that shit-eating grin.
File:Praetor3.jpg|Note the graying and bald spot in his [[hair]].
File:Praetor4.jpg|Chris with Owen.
File:Praetor5.jpg|Wearing a filthy shirt, [[medallion]], and [[magic stones]]. ‎ A cropped version of this image was distributed with the Greene County Sheriff's press release [[Jail Saga|about Chris' arrest for incest]].
File:BribeLetterSummary.jpg|Chris wanted to try to set up a fundraiser for his benefit<ref group = note>Chris wrote in [[Jail Letter - 29 July 2022]] that he wanted to live at [[14 Branchland Court]] instead of Barb, who wished to remain at the house, and wanted to raise money to attempt to buy her out.</ref> during the [[Jail Saga]]. [[Kenneth]] and [[Helena]] refused to assist and Kenneth suggested to Chris that Caden not be involved either.
</gallery></center>

==External links==
*[https://www.instagram.com/praetor_llc Praetor's Instagram]
*[https://twitter.com/_Praetor_ Praetor's Twitter]

{{Notes}}
{{References}}
{{PraetorSaga}}
{{People}}
{{Fantasies}}
{{BusinessList}}

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2023-01-18T10:25:38Z

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Affair with Mother

2023-01-18T10:05:10Z

Necromaster: The misinformation warning was a wall of text that has otherwise been discussed lower on the page, so I gave it a trim to avoid redundancy.

:''This page is about the affair itself. For the leaks in which Chris describes incestuous acts, see [[Incest Call]] and [[Incest Texts]]. For the subsequent legal consequences, see [[Jail Saga]]. For Chris's general stance on incest, see [[Chris and sex#Incest|here]].''

{{Honest}}
{{Misinfo|Chris has a felony charge of incest, not rape. Whether the affair was consensual or not is discussed below but ultimately does not confirm nor deny whether it was consensual, however no matter whether you believe Chris raped Barb or not please ''avoid calling Chris a rapist on this wiki unless he is officially charged, or has been fully confirmed to have raped Barb.}}

{{quote|Anyhow, who among Everyone in this world has not had a dream of having sex with one of their parents? Never acting on them ever, [[Honest Content|I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother]].|Chris on [[Facebook]] in [[2016]]. Chris would act on his instincts five years later.<ref name=dream>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>}}
{{quote|You're supposed to say: "Turn me loose, you silly goose!" '''...You used to do that more flirtingly.'''|Chris while forcefully embracing [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}
[[File:SoulBonding.jpg|thumb|An artist's interpretation of the act. ([[For Julie's Eyes Only|We can only imagine that Chris shouted "BARBAAAY!" at least once when this happened.]])]]
For years, trolls joked that [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]], in his desperation to find a [[boyfriend-free girl]], would eventually turn to [[Barbara|his mom]] based on his occasional off‐putting comments about her and their constant proximity to one another. Few thought he would ever go through with the act, though — but Chris found a way to surprise and horrify everybody.

Chris and Barb's '''incestuous affair''' most likely began on 27 [[June 2021]],<ref name=call>[[Incest call#Transcript]]</ref><ref name=wct/> but [[June 2021 social media posts|his social media presence in]] earlier in the month, may hint at an earlier start to the affair. As early as 22 June, he began addressing Barbara by the unsettling pet name of "Barbie Chan", which may have indicated when he began to get intimate with her. After this date Chris claimed that he had sex with her once every three nights until being forcibly stopped by being removed from the house.

On 28 July 2021, during a call with [[Isabella Loretta Janke|Isabella "Bella" Loretta Janke]], [[Honest Content|Chris revealed the details of his sexual activities with his mother of his own volition]], also discussing it in text messages later that day. In those, Chris discussed stimulating his elderly mother with his hands, performing cunnilingus on her, and having penetrative sex with her.<ref name=deviant>[[Incest Texts]]</ref> He claimed that Barbara compared him favorably to her previous sexual partners, including Chris's father [[Bob]], who had been unable to provide her with an orgasm or stimulate her {{w|G-spot}}.

Files were leaked to the public the following night,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/oudn5m/chris_chan_admits_to_having_sex_with_his_mother/</ref> and social workers removed Chris from Barbara on the morning of 30 July.

In early August 2021, Chris was [[Jail Saga|arrested, officially charged with one count of incest, and is currently being held without bail – pending trial]].

Chris has [[Affair with Mother#Chris's Comments on the Affair post-incarceration|commented on the charges against him]] numerous times since his arrest. As can be seen below, he initially appeared to acknowledge that incest occurred between him and his mother but later denied it.

==Background and foreshadowing==
{{Needs Updating|[[Lonely feelings]], [[Teen Troon Squad chats]]}}

[[File:July28BeautyArtwork.jpg|thumb|left|400px|Note the talk of "soul bonding" in the right-hand corner.]]

In general, the relationship between Chris and his mother has always been seen as a "little too close", likely due to his mother's overly coddling nature towards him in his early life all through to his adulthood mixed with the emotionally abusive control tactics she implemented against both him and Bob. It was keenly noted during the [[DoopieDoOver|Doopie Saga]] that Chris had used the words "[[darling]]" and "dear", commonly reserved for romantic relationships, to refer to his mother.

Many Christorians have noted that potential hints or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris and his mother have been made previously. In a [[PVCC NEW info: on Chris and Barbara spoon eachother!|2010 voice chat]] between various [[PVCC]] forum members, [[Kim Wilson]] talked about a discussion where Chris revealed he was spooning his mother on a regular basis. She also revealed that Chris told her that he'd once had a [[Dreams|wet dream]] about Barb as an Egyptian belly dancer. When asked by Emily if he'd repopulate the planet if he and his mother were the only two people left in existence, Chris went silent and then denied any desire to have sex with his mother.

[[File:SuitressRedditPost.jpg|thumb|"Top 10 Hottest Anime Moms Ever", a video Chris watched on 25 July 2021, days before he confessed to incestuous acts on his mother.<ref>Date can be seen in [[:File:SuitressTablet.jpg]]</ref>]]

As early as October 2015, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement for the [[pepper spray]] incident, Chris and his mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion.<ref>[[26 December 2014#15 October Hearing]]</ref> As recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as [[Magi-Chan]], referred to his mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Furthermore, in August 2016, Chris admitted to having [[Dreams#Mother_dreams|dreams of having sex with his mother]] in a Facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother".<ref name=dream></ref> Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwi Farms that following the [[2014 house fire]], Chris and his mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating "I am not a '[[wikipedia:Norman Bates|Bates]]'. OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>

According to both [[Bella]] and [[MKRNightVee]], Chris brought up the dreams of sex with his mother again to them in private conversations. In a 19 [[July 2021]] conversation with the [[Chess Club]] Discord server, Bella mentioned that Chris, during his phase of [[role-play]]ing as Sonichu, brought up that he had a dream of having sex with his mother, to which Bella replied that it was weird and questioned what it meant, to which an offended Chris asked if she was calling Chris weird.<ref>[[Chess Club Chats#Suicide Plan Claims]]</ref> On 30 [[July 2021]], MKR commented about the leak of the incest news, and mentioned that Chris had told her about sexual dreams with his mother, and that MKR dismissed it as one of Chris's many crazy dreams.<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1421182090586988549 (archive: https://archive.ph/Scjbk)</ref>

[[July 2021 social media posts#Beauty artwork|Chris released a piece of artwork on his Twitter feed]] on 28 [[July 2021]], showing "soul-bonding" between an elderly Libra woman (which Barb is) and a younger woman that suspiciously looks like [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Chris's fictionalized counterpart]], clandestinely hinting at the horrifying affair that was just days from being revealed (the only major inconsistency is that Chris is a Pisces and appears elsewhere in the picture with the correct sign). [[The Suitress]] had also posted a screen cap of a video on Reddit, which Chris claimed that he had watched days prior to his affair being revealed.

Chris had stated [[Lonely feelings|in a conversation]] he had with [[Watchmen]] members that he had feelings of loneliness, and had wanted to get action on with a real, physical woman. Unfortunately for everyone, Chris's desires would lead him to a very dark place.

== The affair ==

On 27 June 2021, Chris began to engage in incest with his mother.<ref name=call/><ref name=wct>[[WCT DMs#New sweetheart]]</ref> Chris claimed he "approached her with care and caution," and that Barb even made the "first move."<ref name=call/>

When pressed for details on the dirty deed, Chris has shown an unsurprising lack of [[Chris and remorse|remorse]] for his actions, stating that his actions were ordained by [[Chris and religion|GodJesus Himself]]. If anything, he was more upset that [[Bella]], [[Null]], [[Dillin]], and other people ratted him out [[Honest Content|after he provided a confession to a felony]].<ref>[[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021]]</ref><ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 October 2021]]</ref>

=== The gory details ===

{{Protip|[[Fabricated BDSM texts|Texts purporting BDSM roleplay]] are fakes doctored by Bella. With that said, this list is still not entirely reliable, as details may vary and because Chris is [[List of Chris's lies|typically not interested in honesty in these scenarios]].}}
[[File:SurrealIncest.png|thumb|A surreal depiction of the events]]
In case you have some kind of morbid curiosity of how the affair could have went down, here is a list of "activities" that Chris had allegedly done to/with his mother:

#'''Massages'''<ref>[[July 2021 social media posts#Signature sex move]]</ref> - Presumably full body ones since it included her thighs (and her face for some reason); this is probably the same type of massage he gave to [[Mia Hamm]]. Chris also claimed in a chat with [[The WCT]] that he had bought massaging oil, and made the claim that it is perfect to use on one's lover. <ref>[[WCT DMs#Massage oil and dream]]</ref>
#'''Kissing''' - Apparently did not involve tongues.
#'''Outer Course''' - Rubbing her pussy with his fingers and hands, this happened at least twice before the next step, probably more.
#'''Intercourse''' - By this, he means fingering her, it apparently hurt her when he did so.
#'''Cunnilingus''' - Eating her out, [[Chris and his ego|claims he's good at it]]. No information about if she returned the favor. <ref name=deviant/>
#'''Penetration''' - Vaginal, apparently with the use of a condom, he proceeded to get himself tested for STI's afterwards anyway.
#'''Cuddling''' - According to a letter from jail, Chris supposedly "cuddled" with Barb in the times of incest.<ref name=letter>[[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021]]</ref>

According to [[Null]], Chris had been buying large amounts of sex toys and lingerie from [[Adam & Eve]] for several months prior to committing his acts. What sex toys Chris potentially used, if any, is uncertain.

===Negligee===
{{Main|Negligee}}
[[File:CWCWithFanJun27.png|thumb|100px|left|A photo of Chris wearing the negligee in front of a fan.]]
Chris stated that he purchased a negligee and claimed that Barb approved of the idea.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Sexy negligee]]</ref> This was eventually confirmed on 3 March 2022, when a Reddit fan posted photos of themselves with Chris in the negligee.

{{clear}}

==Rationalizations==
Chris has rationalized the affair in multiple ways.

*'''Divine approval''' - Chris claimed in the [[Incest Call]] that God told him the incest was okay.

*'''Soul-Bonding and Healing''' - In a jail letter that [[Emanuel]] told him to have sex with Barb in order to "heal" her and "cleanse her of her sins".<ref name=letter/> In a later letter, Chris mentions that "Soul Bonding does not necessarily constitute sex" which implies that it ''can'' be.<ref>[[Jail_Letter - 16_November_2021]]</ref> He described soul-bonding as "the Bonding and Union of Auras (Energy Fields) between at least two individuals."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 June 2022]]</ref> Chris seems to be under the impression that if he didn't engage in this "healing" then Barbara would have died or being more heavily injured by her recent car accident, completely ignoring the fact that if Chris had not engaged in it, chances are Barb wouldn't have been in a car accident at all, since she wouldn't have been forced to drive on her own due to her son's absence.<ref>[[Jail_Letter - 11 January 2022]]</ref>

*'''Defense measure against Sockness''' - Chris claimed that "my having had sex is also a defense mechanism in regards to [[Sockness]] and what he had/may have in mind with me and being near me," referring to Sockness's history of scheming to have sex with Chris, and that Chris planned to use the fact of his affair as a "truth bomb" to deter Sockness.<ref name=soulbonding>[[Bella chats#Soul Bonding]]</ref>

==Awareness of wrongdoing==
Chris was aware of the illegal nature of incest. In August 2016, he read a news article on the topic of a mother and son charged with incest and commented over Facebook on it, defending the two and saying they should not be sent to jail.<ref name=dream></ref>

Five years later, in the midst of his own affair with his mother, Chris still demonstrated awareness that the action was illegal. While he desired to discuss the affair with people, he first concocted a cover story in which he used misleading euphemisms such as "lady friend" to describe his sexual partner and claimed that the supposed lady friend and Barb had met each other<ref name=spill>[[Bella chats#Chris Wants to Spill the Beans]]</ref><ref>[[WCT DMs#Chris describes his lady friend]]</ref> and he insisted on keeping the identity of the lady friend secret,<ref name=soulbonding></ref><ref name=null>[[Null DMs#Chris vaguely describes his relationship]]</ref><ref name=wct></ref> though he dropped hints such as age<ref name=soulbonding></ref> and employment history.<ref name=null></ref>

After a month of using his cover story, Chris decided to push further and tell someone that his mother was the sexual partner. He selected [[Bella]]. Before telling her, Chris first spent time trying to manipulate her into keeping silent on what he would say by use of a guilt trip.

{{quote|And I ask you Not to Overthink or ask for further details in pressing on. That is not a good thing to do.|Chris to Bella, 17 July 2021<ref name=soulbonding></ref>}}

Over a week later, Chris, ready to divulge his secret, first claimed to Bella that he was uncertain of telling her as he was concerned about the government hacking into the conversation, which backfired on Chris as this tipped off Bella into suspecting that he was about to discuss an illegal act.<ref>[[Bella and Suitress chats#Bella suspects incest]]</ref>

{{quote|I realize I am remaining and sounding distant on the questioning, and it will become more clear and obvious when I tell you, in-person, who she is.

I actually wish I could tell you over text or voice call, but the government and anyone with the tech can easily hack into those methods|Chris, prior to the [[Incest Call]].<ref name=spill></ref>}}

Within the same conversation, Chris recommended using the encrypted text/video call app Signal (having used it to communicate with [[Null]]), which Bella agreed to download.<ref name=spill></ref>

==Leaks==
{{main|Incest Call|Incest Texts}}
In the leaks, Chris admits that he and his mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris masturbating his mother, and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. It is further alleged that his mother compared him to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father.

{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. Then she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played with down there by hand.|Text message from Chris.<ref name=deviant></ref>}}
{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing his sexual activities with his father's sexual activities.<ref name=deviant></ref>}}
[[File:Arrestchu.jpeg|thumb|"Ladies and gentlemen, we got him."]]

The leaked audio likewise contained graphic descriptions of sexual activity, which Chris alludes to as the veracity of "incest fanfics". The authenticity of the recording was confirmed by Chris to [[Dillin Thomas]].<ref name="admission">[[Incest fallout chat leaks#Chris confesses to Dillin Thomas]]</ref>

Prior to the allegations being revealed to the public, Chris informed [[Bella]], [[Null]], and [[The WCT]] about the fact that he found a [[boyfriend-free girl]], although he wanted her identity to remain secret. He offered multiple hints about the identity of his new [[sweetheart]], but told Null that he wanted him to figure out who it was. Null was initially skeptical of the incest claims, since the [[Idea Guys]] previously coerced him into recording a (then untrue) statement that he had raped Barb, and believed that this could be another instance of similar manipulation. Null hypothesized that Chris was attempting to protect the identity of his new girlfriend by making up an elaborate lie, but eventually came to realize that Chris had been having frequent sex with Barb upon reviewing Chris's hints.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Null)#Chris's "girlfriend"]]</ref>

After this information eventually came to light, Chris indicated that it was "drama" and that he only intended to share the information to [[Messiah complex|test his followers]], who he trusted not to share the information with the public at large despite incest being illegal. Chris later compared Null to {{w|Judas Iscariot}} for "betraying" him by trusting him with such [[Honest Content]]. [[Chris and remorse|Chris being Chris]], he seems to be more upset over the fact that [[Honest Content|trusting people not to leak evidence of a criminal act]] led to [[Jail Saga|serious, life-changing consequences for him]] than the idea that he may have caused harm to Barb, and as multiple [[jail letters]] show, he does not have guilt over the fact that he did something illegal (not to mention he clearly hasn't learned from ''years'' of experience that [[Honest Content|constantly sharing personal information at the drop of a hat]], be it embarrassing or '''incriminating''' in this case, invariably comes back to bite him in the rear later on).

== Was it consensual? ==

{{Protip| The following information should not be taken as definite proof that Chris raped Barb or not; this is simply a list of evidence that Chris has provided himself, which due to Chris's habit of lying for the pettiest of reasons, can be seen as unreliable by some. Due to the sensitive nature of this topic, please avoid saying for sure if Chris did or did not rape Barb.}}

On the CWCki, there are two main camps that people fall into when discussing this topic:
There are people who believe the affair to be abusive or even flat-out nonconsensual, while there are other people who believe the affair was consensual between the two.

The following list contains many common points of argument for both sides but also a counterargument for each and every one.

The evidence for the affair being nonconsensual are as follows:

* Barb has been speculated to be suffering from dementia or some other form of mental decline; there are too many videos of her displaying symptoms to list, but this could be her intentionally faking it for sympathy donations.
* Chris mentioned during [[Incest Texts]] that Barb told him to stop during his attempts to finger her; however, this would have been Chris's first time fingering a woman ([[Mia Hamm]] didn't allow him to do so during their times together) and Chris mentioned this act hurt Barb at first; meaning Barb could have been stopping him from his attempts due to the pain but otherwise consented to be fingered.
* Chris, during the [[Incest Call]], mentions that Barb seemed partially confused at first; However, Chris did say she "came around," so it's possible he was referring to his advances towards her, and she didn't initially understand/ believe what Chris was asking for.
* Chris mentioned in [[Jail Letter - 22 July 2022 (2)]] that Barb was "Zombie-like" and not even aware of her surroundings even before the affair began; while damning (if true), it's worth mentioning that Chris during the letter is begging Kenneth for assistance in moving Barb out of the house, arguing that Barb simply cannot take care of herself. Chris, being Chris, could simply not know the implications of what he's actually saying, and it's quite possible that Chris is desperately lying since Kenneth disapproved of the idea unless there was no other option for Barb.

The evidence for the affair being consensual are as follows:

* Chris and Barbara's relationship is infamously creepy and way too close for comfort; this is the main source of people believing the affair was consensual and for good reason. Barb would often yell at Chris if he didn't share a bed with her, and Chris has admitted numerous times that he spoons with her (after Bob's death). They were also often seen talking to each other and even holding each other as if they were husband and wife for a long time before the affair began. Barb is infamous for being horribly manipulative for her own personal gain, and she does not see any problem with coddling and emotionally blackmailing Chris in order to go along with what she wants to do (usually money or food-related stuff); with this in mind, while their relationship is definitely unhealthy for a mother and son to have, it does not prove that Barb was interested in an incestuous affair with Chris.
* Chris claimed to Null during his temporary homelessness in [[Null DMs| a direct message]] that the affair was definitely consensual; [[Honest Content|however even somebody like Chris]] would probably hesitate to admit raping their own mother, especially to his main benefactor at the time.
* Chris boasted during the [[Incest Call]] that Barb was "having a good time" and even claimed that he let her make the first move; even if this is true, it does not rule out that Chris hadn't coerced or otherwise manipulated her into having sex with him since he did mention in the same call that she was "partially confused at first." Chris's idea of approaching a love interest with "care and caution" '''does not''' translate to consent or even consideration for somebody else's feelings; his idea of nervous behavior around [[Kacey]], for example, included touching her multiple times without her consent and his interactions with [[Megan]] which he describes as "friendly" also included a lot of unwanted attempts to hug and kiss her.
* In [[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022]], Chris claimed that after he lost his virginity to Mia Hamm and told his mom about it, Barb stated that she would have had sex with him herself; while this does sound like Barb offering herself to Chris there is a massive possibility that Barb was simply saying he could [[Attraction Sign|pull women without paying them]] (for example when [[Pmurt]] stated that he would date his daughter if he was somebody else not related to her), while definitely creepy it does not mean she actually wanted sex with him and even if she did, the quote came from a decade beforehand so this would not count as consent.

In the end, we will perhaps never honestly know; Barb is not willing to comment or give any further details (and thankfully, nobody has pressed her on such), and Chris is currently in denial that the affair ever took place. If Chris is formally charged and sentenced with felony incest (or perhaps rape), it could be a case of Chris simply piling on tons of poorly worded evidence against himself [[Honest Content|(as he's done throughout most of his life)]]; if Chris is found innocent or just given the sentence for misdemeanor incest, it could be seen as yet another example of the criminal justice system [[Honor Roll|going easy]] on [[Autism|somebody with special needs]], and Chris gets away with yet another crime [[Law |(something that he has also done throughout most of his life)]] as a result.

Ironically, despite this being one of the most critical moments in Chris's life, [[Geno Samuel|a life that has been documented extensively down to the finest detail]], we continue to and will likely never know the essential details of it.

==Chris's Comments on the Affair post-incarceration==

During his recent incarceration Chris has communicated numerous times with members of the public via letters and telephone calls. Some of those letters (and one recorded phone call which has been publicly shared by an anonymous caller) contain commentary by Chris regarding the charges for which he is currently in jail. The first publicly available letter in which Chris touches on the subject of the alleged incest was written on [[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021|19 September 2021]]. In it, he appears to strongly imply that he indeed had sex with Barbara. Chris's comments on the affair are tied with his elaboration of his previously expressed delusions of Godhood. He reveals to have realized himself to be the present day reincarnation of Jesus Christ. The supreme Goddess Emanuelle had ordered him to to purify Barbara of her sins and improve her abilities as well. In his description of how this was done, Chris writes that he and his mother "mainly Cuddled, Soul-Bonded, and Talked." No sexual acts are explicitly mentioned, but the rest of the letter strongly implies that they were included in Chris's "healing" of Barbara. Chris goes on to write that the healing he performed on his mother was similarly done by him on other individuals during his previous life as Jesus Christ, though the details of said healings were omitted from the the Bible. Chris then goes on to inform the letter's recipient that "We Gods had eased up on the views of "Adultry [sic]"; WHY Else do you all have Pro-Gay, and Pro-Lesbian, Pro-Trans, and all Today and the past Decades?" While the word "adultery" is typically used to refer to marital infidelity, it appears that in this letter it should be read as "acts that go against traditional sexual morality". By grouping the "healing" of Barbara in the same category as intimate relations between members of the same sex, Chris strongly implies that the "healing" of Barbara likewise included romantic and sexual acts. Chris's defense of the "healing" on the counts that all those who were involved in it were both willing and above the legal age of consent further enhances the impression that it was at least partially sexual in nature.

While he 19 September letter was just a few baby steps away from being an explicit admission of incest, it did not take long for Chris to become more coy as to whether or not incest between him and Barb had occurred. In a [[Jail Call - 1 November 2021|1 November 2021 telephone call]] Chris failed to either explicitly deny or acknowledge that he and Barb had sex. The same ambiguousness regarding the truthfulness of the charges against him can be seen in a letter written on [[Jail Letter - 16 November 2021|16 November 2021]].

At some point Chris changed his tune and began to outright deny that there was any sexual intimacy between him and his mother. As far as public evidence goes, Chris first explicitly denied the charges against him in the [[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022|11 May 2022 jail letter]]. In the same letter Chris alleges that in [[May 2012]] Barbara made sexual advances towards him after he revealed to her that he had paid a prostitute a month beforehand. He goes on to write that after the death of Bob Barb came to see Chris as a husband-like figure. Further denials that Chris ever had sexual relations with Barb appear in jail letters written on [[Jail Letter - 1 June 2022|1 June]] and [[Jail Letter - 4 June 2022|4 June 2022]]. Chris does acknowledge that prior to his arrest he told others that he had sex with Barb, but by now he claims that those admissions were false. As he wrote in the 4 June 2022 letter: "I have never had sex with Barbara; that was purely Big Talk to Divinely Test everyone." Already in the letters from 19 September 2021 and 16 November 2021 Chris claimed that his pre-arrest admissions were made in order to test certain individuals, but only recently Chris began to claim that these admissions were false.

==Consequences==
{{Main|Jail Saga}}
It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest – sexual activities between a parent and a child are a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. Chris was swiftly removed from his home by an Emergency Protective Order, then arrested the next day. In the wake of his charges, Chris was [[ban]]ned from [[Patreon]] and [[Tapas]]. Collaborators who had once worked with him withdrew, such as the band who released [[Love is Love (song)|Love is Love]] pulling it from sale.

Since then, he was held without bail in Central Virginia Regional Jail before getting transferred to [[Western State Hospital]], awaiting trial.<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/269663503100241/photos/a.398555170211073/4389133984486485/?type=3 Press release]</ref> On 3 [[May 2022]], Chris was transferred back to CVRJ.

If Barb consented, she could be charged as a willing participant. If Barb did ''not'' consent, as some have speculated that she may be incapable of that, Chris's potential sentence could be significantly longer given the severity of a rape charge.

===Chris and Barbara's relationship===
{{Needs Updating|Citations}}
Chris and Barbara's relationship deteriorated during Chris's stay in jail. In a jail letter, Chris mentioned that Barb had ceased communicating with him.{{cite}}. During summer 2022, Chris began to speak ill of Barb in his letters, insulting and making spurious claims about her.{{cite}} While still in jail, Chris began planning for his housing post-release. In light of a restraining order being placed on Chris preventing him from contact with Barb{{cite}}, Chris believed he deserved to live in [[14 Branchland Court]] over Barb, and requested his [[enablers]] assist him with a [[Kickstarter]] fundraiser to bribe Barb into moving into senior housing, claiming that [[Caden]] was helping with this scheme, and that it was his initial idea.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 29 July 2022]]</ref>

==Fan videos==

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==See also==
{{FanArt}}
*[[Chris and sex]]
*[[Chris and the law]]
*[[Jail Saga]]
*[[Soul Bonding]]
*[[The Binding of Isaac‎]]
*[[Ultimate Guide to Sex and Disability]]

{{Notes}}
{{References}}
{{Articleofthenow}}
{{IncestSaga}}
{{Love Quest}}

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Chris and nutrition

2023-01-16T19:41:36Z

Necromaster: jail visit

{{HealthDisclosure}}
{{Honest}}

[[File:ChrisMadeANaco.jpg|thumb|A soft shell taco topped with tortilla chips. Straight out of ''Kim Possible''.]]
Food is both a [[sex|biological imperative]] and a [[art|cultural medium]] for humans. The human body is meant to run on a wide variety of foodstuffs for a balanced diet, and cultures around the world have created a multitude of dishes using available ingredients, mostly from animal and plant sources. But more recently, food has become industrialized, and this industrial process makes food cheaper and tastier, to the love of our hero [[Chris]]. Unfortunately, this industrial Western diet doesn't always carry the best '''nutrition'''.

==Cooking abilities==

Chris claims that he cooks for himself 4 or 5 days a week,<ref>[[Mumble 6|Mumble #6]]</ref> making his cooking a major source of his nutrition. He has said that he took Home Ec. classes in school and that he owns cookbooks.<ref>[[IRC (18 December 2008)]]</ref> However, when Jackie asked him to cook spaghetti (an incredibly basic dish, mind you) in a YouTube video, he dodged responsibility by claiming that [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] had blocked the kitchen up with junk, so he instead mimed the act and microwaved some canned spaghetti and meatballs.<ref>[[SpaghettiRoutine]]</ref> It can be deduced from this that Chris can't or doesn't cook, and simply buys microwaveable meals every time he claims to be eating at home.

In a letter written to Kelly Sheridan that was posted to Twitter, Chris claimed to have taken up basic cooking skills as a way to keep his mind more active.

In addition, [[Barb]] no longer cooks for Chris after he and [[Bob]] had turned down a spaghetti meal she had offered them<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 24]]</ref>, a turn-down he claimed to have "deeply apologized" for, making it even less likely that Chris eats anything that requires to be cooked, let alone anything that requires time and preparation to be made.

==Fast Food==

{{Main|List of restaurants}}

As a result of his minimal cooking skills, and due to how even the simplest of tasks [[Chris and work|tire him out]], Chris often prefers to eat out over making food by himself. He is an infamous fast food lover, eating at either [[McDonald's]], [[Burger King]] or some other fast food restaurant at least once a day. He has been known to dine out up to 4 times a day. The fact that he's merely fat and not morbidly obese with such an awe-inspiring calorific intake and inactive lifestyle suggests a fairly high metabolism, one which will almost certainly not last indefinitely. The frequency of his fast food trips was confirmed in 2015 when a [[Kiwi Farms]] user sent him $500 to see what he would do with it.

===Some places where Chris likes to eat===
* [[McDonald's]]
* [[Burger King]]
* [[List of restaurants|Restaurants]]
* [[:File:Kroger sighting.jpg|Grocery stores]]
* [[Kitchen]]
* [[Bedroom]]

==Consumption of food==

[[File:Sonic rainboom $500 1.png|thumb|left|200px|Chris visited McDonald's 10 times in 13 days. It's not even the only fast-food place on the list.]]
[[File:Hypnosis for fatter ass.png|thumb|200px|Chris wants to use subliminal hypnosis to make his belly slimmer but his ass fatter.]]

Many, many times, Chris has been shown to be a glutton for all kinds of food, eating excessively in public places and during parties. His complexion also gives insight into his daily nutrition, often showing various signs of acne and acne scarring. His most probable nutritional intake is as follows:

* '''Breakfast:''' Often nothing because he usually [[Biological clock|sleeps from 6 a.m. to noon]], but when he doesn't do that, he travels to McDonald's or another fast food restaurant with a breakfast menu.
* '''Lunch:''' Something quick at home or fast food.
* '''Dinner:''' Dine out at a fast food place with family, or have a poorly-cooked microwave meal.

According to Chris, he eats more vegetables than any other food group.<ref>[[Kacey Call 7]]</ref> The veracity of this statement is dubious, given what is known about Chris's medical history and health in general (as well as his tendency to lie).

During the [[Father Call]], Chris told [[Kacey]]'s father that he was prescribed [[Wikipedia:Atorvastatin|Lipitor]] for his high cholesterol. He claimed he stopped taking the drug in fall 2009, but whether he was being honest (especially given the number of obvious [[List of Chris's lies|lies]] he told about his health in the course of the rest of the call) is uncertain.

When Chris admits to going to McDonald's regularly for his meals (including the time in the father call) he will often fall back on another lie that he only eats the salads provided and drink the lemonade. Which is ironic since when Macdonald's salads were still around they were actually proven to contain ''more'' calories than an average Big mac meal (due to the sauce that came with them); Chris also seems to be under the impression that lemonade is healthy because it has (or at least tastes vaguely like) lemons despite them being just as unhealthy as any other type of soda.

In 2016, he began listening to [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]] videos under the false believe that they would improve his health. He liked videos such as "Lose Weight Super Fast!", "Eliminate Armpit Odor Permanently Fast!", "Lower Your Blood Pressure Fast! Hypertension Treatment", and "[[Fart Song|Produce Odorless Farts Fast!]]". There is no sort of scientific and medical evidence that proves listening to binaural beats can do these things – the only real health effect is hearing loss if listened to at a high volume, and maybe a headache.

In 2017, Chris had a brief online relationship with [[Jessica Quinn]], who has a fat fetish and influenced Chris with it. The Sonichu comic features an obese Rosechu in [[Sonichu 12|issue 12]]. After their breakup, Chris consumed a large bowl of ice cream, then took a side photo of his gut, saying, "THIS!!! Right Here was ALLLLL HERS!!!!!!"<ref>[[October 2017 Facebook posts#Quinn.27s missing out|Quinn's missing out!]]</ref> This marks one of the only times that Chris has admitted that he has [[Obesity]] issues.

In 2019, Chris showed us his idea of a "salad", mostly made with unhealthy ingredients like bacon bits and croutons.<ref>[[August 2019 social media posts#Magi-Chan eats a .22salad.22]]</ref>

In 2020, Chris claimed to make breakfast omelettes/scrambled eggs with ghost pepper sauce or spinach.<ref>[[December 2020 social media posts]]</ref>

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==Jail food==
Now that [[Jail Saga|Chris has been in jail for quite a while]], it's safe to assume he has broken his long standing policy of [[28 October 2011|not eating prison food]] and has entered the regular diet alongside all other inmates. Ironically, this is quite the improvement to his regular dietary habits, as prison meals are provided in equal quantities per inmate and no amount of entitlement will help you get a second serving. Pretty much the only way Chris can overeat is either by buying the food separately via commissary money or donations. Chris has stated that he likes the selection of food items the jail has for sale, meaning that most of the commissary money that he does get will most likely be spent on junk food.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 25 October 2021 (Virginia fan)]]</ref>

The quality of said prison meals, on the other hand, is debatable; prisons in America can have anything from barely edible slop crawling with parasites, to extremely nutritious meals that come in great variety and flavors. In any case, it's probably safe to say that even if Central Virginia Regional Jail is sitting in the latter category, the meals provided will be far healthier than [[McDonald's|what Chris is used to eating]]. In an [[October 2021]] letter, Chris discussed the quality of the meals by writing that the "Food's mostly good and well; not perfect meatballs (Banquet Dinners have better meatballs), and chicken is often dry."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 October 2021]]</ref>

As of 3 [[May 2022]] following his three month stay at [[Western State Hospital]] his weight has noticeably fallen significantly since he was unable to exploit the "begging for junk food money" loophole he once had access to; time will tell if he manages to earn enough donations to regain the weight.

During a [[January 2023 jail visit| jail visit]] the answer (if the visit actually happened) is a no. Since Chris at this point in time has alienated pretty much anyone who actually send him money, the only apparent donor still left is apparently [[Praetor]], who have been allegedly massively undercutting Chris's side of the [[Jail Art]] bargain by only donating about $25 in the last few months. The result of this is that Chris has lost even more weight since his visit to [[Western State Hospital]].

==Hydration and water consumption==
[[File:Recycle.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Chris tends to drink large amounts of soft drinks daily. Occasionally, he mixes them with [[Navy|a special ingredient]].]]
[[File:Water and Dasani.jpeg|150px|thumb|Chris's water bottle with a Dasani bottle]]
[[File:Anti corona device.jpg|200px|thumb|What Chris actually believes manifests his "powers" in our world.]]

Before 2020, Chris rarely drank water and focused a lot more on [[CWC Cola|carbonated]] [[My Coke Rewards|drinks]] and energy drinks (which have been proven to [[Chris and anger|increase erratic behavior]]).<ref>[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4772143]</ref> This was such that an entire page of the CWCki was [[My Coke Rewards|partly dedicated to just how much Coca-Cola he drank over the span of two years]].

Said article revealed that on many of the days between 6 March 2007 and 4 September 2009, Chris drank about 1.8 liters (over 3 pints) of Coke ''every day'' (assuming that none of it was drunk by his equally [[obese]] [[Borb|parents]]), so he could gain points on My Coke Rewards. This represents a grotesque 195 grams (nearly 7 ounces) of sugar per day from Coke alone, representing almost ''800'' calories (1/3 of his daily calorie intake). To put that in perspective, Chris drank enough Coke to fill ''10 oil barrels'' in order to get the amount of points he got. [[30 Push-Ups|Needless to say]], the effects are staggering. On record, he apparently consumed a whopping 120 cans of cola on 9 April 2008, 24 March 2009, and 15 August 2009; how this didn't send him into immediate diabetic shock is anybody's guess.

Now, Chris drinks tons of water from a Glacee water bottle with [[Magic Stones|amethyst crystal]] on the bottom. He believes that there are many health problems that drinking water in this fashion alone can cure. He believes that doing so cures conditions such as food poisoning. While this is not actually true, it's at least far healthier than drinking tons of soft drinks. Ever since the discovery of himself being Goddess CPU Blue Heart, he has used this bottle constantly as a way to charge up his "powers", in order to help further the merge into its future stages. The reason he went with the amethyst crystal is most likely the same reason that he uses his [[Amnyfest Ring]] in the comics as his main source of power. So, therefore, Chris now uses this bottle as a way to inadvertently makes his powers stronger.

==Results of Chris's Diet==
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===Obesity===
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[[File:Fat chris.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Chris showing off his gut in [[October 2017]], as an attempt to make [[Jessica Quinn]] regret breaking up with him.]]

Chris has been overweight for all or nearly all of his adult life, and obese for a large portion of it.

===Dental Hygiene===

Chris's [[Fangs| teeth]] have obviously suffered greatly during the decades of constant sugary abuse. Several videos which he exposes his teeth have revealed that his molars are extremely rotten and full of cavities while his frontal teeth are yellowish at best and an olive colour at worst. This combined with his infamous lack of hygienic prowess means that it's flat out a miracle that all his teeth haven't fallen out at this point.

===Behavioral Issues===

Caffeine is a well known [[Anger|stimulant]] and can impair ones ability to [[Biological Clock|sleep]]. Chris's drinks all have an amount of caffeine in them, from coffee to [[Coca-Cola]]. Chris is undoubtedly addicted to both, and cups of coffee were spotted throughout the hallway in [[14 Branchland Court]] just before the coffee ''maker'' [[2014 house fire|burned the entire house down]].

===Fecal Incontinence===
{{Main|DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS}}

It is believed that Chris's diet is one of the causes for his fecal incontinence (the other one being [[List of things Chris has shoved up his ass|ramming stuff in his rectum]]), as chronic constipation can be one cause of fecal incontinence.<ref>{{w|Fecal incontinence#Constipation|Fecal incontinence on Wikipedia.}}</ref> Chris's diet of McDonald's, microwaveable food, and little or no fruit or vegetables is very likely ridiculously low on fiber and thus a sure-fire way of causing constipation, and Chris has been going on with this diet for who knows how long. Irritable bowel syndrome may be another reason for Chris's problems with controlling his bowels. The cause of IBS is not known, but two major triggers are [[stress]] and poor diets, with wheat, dairy, and carbonated drinks being known IBS triggers.<ref>Mayo Clinic: [https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/irritable-bowel-syndrome/symptoms-causes/syc-20360016 Irritable bowel syndrome]</ref> Chris has given testament to fast-food not agreeing with him,<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Whopperrito]]</ref> However, being raised on a poor diet, it's unlikely he'll stop eating junk anytime soon.

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==Denial of poor diet==

Chris often denies his diet is doing more harm to him than good. In the [[Father Call]], Chris constantly lies about his poor eating habits to an unimpressed Matthew Devoria. At one point, he went off on a tangent about how he stuffed vegetables and fruits down his throat; this was after Matt metaphorically compared [[Kacey|his daughter]]'s book reading to how much candy Chris probably consumes.

==References==
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Obesity

2023-01-16T19:28:33Z

Necromaster:

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{{quote|One more thing, [[Chris and reality|I AM NOT OVERWEIGHT!!!!!!!!!]]|Chris, lying to a [[white knight]]<ref>[[White knight emails]]</ref>}}
{{Quote|I do not feel good hearing remarks or comments that have relation to my gut.|Chris to [[Jackie]]<ref>[[Jackie Chat 6]]</ref>}}

[[File:Ecp00066.jpg|thumb|[[List of Chris's edits to the CWCki#Christianchandler|Look at his "slender" figure.]]]]
[[Image:0839-MomDesi.JPG|thumb|The Atkins Diet apparently didn't work on [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]].]]
'''Obesity''' is perceived to be a worldwide epidemic, especially in the [[United States of America]], with about 73.6% of adults overweight and 42.5% obese.<ref>https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm ''CDC FastStats - Overweight Prevalence, 2017-2018''</ref> While [[Chris]] is no longer technically in the latter category, he spent a good chunk of his adult life in it, and he remains overweight to this day.

Chris seems to be in denial about his own obesity. His denial is evidenced by the fact that he portrays himself as [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|a slim, barrel-chested hero]] in his [[Sonichu (comic)|comics]] and in [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE]], when he describes himself as "fit as a fiddle". Furthermore, in his numerous dating profiles discovered by the trolls, he often lists himself as having an "athletic build" or at the very least having weight that is proportionate to his height.

Another example of this was when he created a character for his comics named [[Sammy]], whom Chris stated is based off him when he "temporary [sic] gained weight, became stupid, and went to watch television at ghost command", even though he has always been this way. Except, y'know, for the Ghost Command part. But [[Chris and reality|that's]] a whole other problem.

Further cementing his obesity, on 2 [[October 2011]], Chris's voluptuous manboobs won an award on [http://web.archive.org/web/20111003142847/http://www.manboobs.co.uk/submissions/manboob_of_the_month manboobs.co.uk].

==Exercise==
[[Image:Cwcspin.gif|thumb|Chris exercising.]]

Chris believes that ''standing up without moving'' is a legitimate form of exercise, and as such considers playing ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' a workout. During one of his [[PSN]] chats with Julie, when asked to exercise more, he replied, "I'll stand up more". It is not known how Chris came to believe that standing up is exercise, but it is most likely that Chris is simply extremely lazy and will lie to say that he works out every day, even though he just plays [[video games]]. It's possible he's picked it up from health tips that say standing burns more calories than sitting down,<ref>http://www.rd.com/living-healthy/8-ways-to-burn-calories-without-noticing/article16261.html ''Reader's Digest.'' See tip #3</ref><ref>http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/office-exercise/SM00115 ''Mayo Clinic.'' See tip #2</ref> but rather than use such tips to get the most out of an already busy lifestyle, he substitutes it for actual exercise altogether. It's also entirely possible he's in such terrible shape that the simple act of standing tires him as much as an actual workout would tire a normal human being.

[[Emily]] has said Chris power-walks around his neighborhood for thirty minutes and claims it's two miles (3 km), then claims to jog for two or three minutes every walk. She then went on to say Chris doesn't know how to jog — his idea of jogging is actually sprinting. It's safe to say he tries to run at "[[Sonic]] speed" for ten seconds, then resumes his leisurely waddle. This theory is confirmed in [[Sonichu's Edge]].

In [[Mailbag 21]], Chris claimed that he planned on investing in a gym membership. Judging by photographs and videos featuring his midsection from subsequent months, he either lied or wasted his money.

In his [[Jail Letter - 8 November 2021 (RadioRabbit0)|letter to radiorabbit0]], he mentioned playing basketball to pass the time while awaiting court hearings.

==Diet==
[[File:Hypnosis for fatter ass.png|thumb|200px|Chris actually believes [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis|binaural beats]] will [[Chris and reality|magically transform]] his fat gut and ass into an hourglass figure.]]

Another contribution to Chris' obesity is the food he eats. Chris' [[Chris and nutrition|diet]] is appalling, consisting mainly of fast food and other unhealthy foodstuffs. While it would be acceptable if he treated himself to that stuff occasionally (like most people do), there's no question that it's a staple of his diet. The sheer amount of calories he consumes, coupled with his laziness, means that he's carrying around enough extra mass to make another person. His diet will most likely also cause problems other than obesity, and may be the cause of his [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|fecal leakage]].

[[File:Coke, Unicorn cosplay.jpg|thumb|left|150px|You know Chris didn't share that bottle with anyone.]]
In 2017, Chris decided that his ass wasn't fat enough, and began listening to a subliminal hypnosis track in the hopes of transferring his belly fat to his ass, as an attempt to obtain an hourglass figure.

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==Actual weight claims==

{{quote|Seriously, though, the last few times I looked on my smart scale of how much I weighed, without clothes, at above 210, I hopped off immediately without letting it sync with my Fitbit app. ALOL|Chris, January 2019<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1082811421363261441</ref>}}

[[File:weightovertimev2.png|thumb|500px|A graph of Chris's (reported) weight over the years.]]

[[File:Burlesque1.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris's weight in [[June 2015]].]]

Modern measurement of whether someone is overweight or obese generally employs the [[Wikipedia:Body mass index|BMI]] system, which creates an index based on the height and weight of an individual. This system is by no means perfect; the readings tend to be inaccurately high for people who are exceptionally tall, have heavily set bodies or are very muscular, because these people have more bone or muscle weight than others. However, it is a very accurate system when applied to people of average height, bone structure and muscle build – which Chris is. Additionally, the distinction between overweightness and obesity is arbitrary, with different countries using different standards. For our purposes, a BMI of 25 and above is overweight, and a BMI of 30 and above is obese, which is the standard most widely used in the United States. If Chris were a Japanese citizen, he'd be obese with even a BMI of 25.

===Chris's height===
One of the two factors required to calculate BMI is height. For most of his adult life, Chris has claimed to be 5′ 10″ (178 cm),<ref>[[The Hook Cafe#Characteristics]]</ref> which is possible, but even at this height, his BMI would have almost never been under the "overweight" bracket since he began to record it in 2000. Given how readily [[List of Chris's Lies|Chris lies to serve himself]], he may be shorter, which would render his BMI in the "obese" range. In a [[26_December_2014#Police_Scanner_Video|police scanner report]] from 2014, he was described as being 5′ 9″ (1.75 m), and his [[List of cards from The Wall of Originals|custom ''Pokémon'' cards]] from 2000, 2002 and 2004 all give his "length" as 5′ 9″. As of 2021, Chris has taken to describing himself as 5′ 11″ (1.80 m),<ref>[[Jail Letter - 16 November 2021]]</ref> which is almost certainly a lie.

For the sake of simplicity, the BMI data listed below is based on a height of 5′ 10″.

===Weight claims===
* 9 May 2000 - Chris's "Christian's Christian" [[List of cards from The Wall of Originals|custom Pokémon card]] gives his weight as '''185 pounds''' (80 kg).<ref>[[:File:099-CWCsCWC.jpg]]</ref> This would give him a BMI of 26.5, which is only slightly overweight.

* 25 March 2002 - Chris's "Dark Christian" [[List of cards from The Wall of Originals|custom Pokémon card]] gives his weight as '''185 pounds''' (80 kg).<ref>[[:File:100-DarkCWC.jpg]]</ref>

* 2 February 2004 - Chris's "Christian Chandler" [[List of cards from The Wall of Originals|custom Pokémon card]] gives his weight as '''165 pounds''' (75 kg),<ref>[[:File:098-CWCCard1.jpg]]</ref> the least he has claimed to weigh in his adult life. If this number is accurate, his BMI at the time would have been 23.7, putting him within the heavier end of the normal range and not overweight. However, since this is the first time Chris has reported his weight since the beginning of his [[Love Quest]], it is possible that he still weighed closer to 185 pounds and simply began lying about his weight to appear more attractive to the opposite sex.

* 20 July 2005 - In a [[Diary]] entry, Chris reported that his weight was '''180 pounds''' (about 80 kg),<ref>[[CWC's Diary#2005]]</ref> meaning that during that time his BMI was 25.8, which is slightly overweight.

* Fall 2009 - Chris told Kacey that his weight was somewhere between '''215 and 220 pounds''' (98–100 kg),<ref>[[Kacey Call 12]]</ref> meaning his BMI was between 30.8 and 31.6, nudging him into the obese range.

* Fall 2009 - In a later conversation with Kacey, Chris said that at a recent doctor's visit he had weighed in at '''205 pounds''' (93 kg), down from 216 the last time he had been there.<ref>[[Kacey Call 19]]</ref>

* February 2010 - Chris claimed to weigh "'''about 200 [pounds]'''" (91 kg), and also admitted to having once weighed more than 220 pounds (100 kg). Even if we interpret the words "about 200" to mean 190, his BMI at the time would still be 27.3, i.e. overweight, nearing obesity. He also claimed at this time that his goal was to get down to 180 pounds (82 kg).<ref>[[Mailbag 54#Fatty]]</ref>

* October 2010 - In the [[WeighIn|WeighIn video]], Chris claimed to weigh '''216 pounds''' (97 kg). This seems very unrealistic, given his apparent girth and food consumption. Most [[trolls|experts]] believe that Chris either offset his scale by 40 or 50 pounds, or that he did not fully stand on the scale in order to fool people into believing he's not extremely fat. It is also possible that Chris's years of inactivity had caused his muscles to deteriorate to the point that he looked like he weighed more than 250 pounds, when actually he was just 216 pounds of pure fat. Even if we assume that he indeed weighed only 216 lbs at the time, this would still put his BMI at 31, making him '''obese'''.

* April 2012 - Chris announced on Facebook that he was "going down to '''223''' <nowiki>[101 kg]</nowiki> and falling."<ref>[[April 2012 Facebook posts]]</ref>

* July 2013 - Chris again posted to Facebook that he was "down to '''220'''" (~100 kg).<ref>[[July 2013 Facebook Posts]]</ref>

* October 2013 - Just three months later, Chris told Facebook that according to his doctor's visit he weighed '''211 pounds''' (96 kg), and had lost seven pounds since last he checked.<ref>[[October 2013 Facebook Posts]]</ref>

* January 2014 - Chris asserted on Facebook that he weighed "'''about 202 pounds'''" (91 kg). While many would be quick to dismiss this solely on the basis that he eats at McDonald's regularly, at least one report shows that it can't be the sole factor, due to [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2533353/Forget-Super-Size-Me-Man-loses-37lbs-lowers-cholesterol-eating-McDonalds-three-months.html one individual actually ''losing weight'' on a pure McDonald's diet]. However, given the sheer deluge of fast/processed food Chris eats from other places, the non-existence of an exercise regimen, and the simple fact that his face is a lot fatter compared to previous photographs of him, this claim that he weighs 202 pounds is ''very'' dubious.<ref>[[January 2014 Facebook Posts]]</ref>

* October 2014 - Chris defensively told his friend Shaina that he weighed "'''around 200''' <nowiki>[91 kg]</nowiki>, give or take two or three."<ref>[[Open Relationship E-mails]]</ref>

* January 2018 - At [[MAGfest]], Chris said that he was '''"212 pounds of awesome"''' at the ''Christory of Sonichu'' panel.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/1-6-chris-at-magfest.38143/page-16#post-2931683</ref> Later, when he praised a fan who lifted him with a bear hug, Chris stated that his weight was more than 212 pounds, congratulating the fan on his strength.<ref>[[January 2018 tweets#Much love for MAGfest fans]]</ref>

* January 2019 - Chris self-consciously reported his weight at '''213 pounds''' (96 kg).<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1082809505367367680</ref> Three days later, Chris posted on Twitter data from his Aria 2 Smart Scale and Fitbit app that displayed his weight as '''209.7 pounds''' (95.1 kg) with his BMI listed as 29.4, nearly inside of the obese range.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1083935703698935808</ref> The readout from the smart scale also displayed Chris' Percent Body Fat as 45.3%, for comparison, PBF greater than 25% is considered obese for men while greater than 32% is obese for women. Chris stated that he wants to use his [[treadmill]] to slim down to 200 and eventually 179 pounds.

* November 2021 - Chris, after three months in jail, gave his weight as '''203 pounds''' (92 kg). Presumably this is due to the relatively low quality and low amount of food available to inmates. Chris described this weight as "appropriate to my Human Form's Five Foot, Eleven Inch Height", although with a BMI of 28.3 he is still very much overweight.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 16 November 2021]]</ref>

* May 2022 - Chris's' mugshot taken after returning to jail from [[Western State Hospital]] shows that has lost a lot of weight since his arrest in [[August 2021]] and has even lost his double chin. This may be in part because Western State Hospital, unlike Central Virginia Regional Jail, does not have a commissary shop where he can supplement his jail diet with junk food and soft drinks. Chris has yet to comment on his latest weight loss.

* During the alleged [[January 2023 jail visit]] Chris had apparently lost even more weight while in jail.

==Health==
''Main article: [[Chris and health]]''

Obviously, all this has an adverse effect on Chris' health. Morbidly obese people are far more likely to develop diabetes, heart disease, and a number of other ailments. While it is admittedly possible to be fat '''and''' fit, and an obese person can be very healthy in other regards (even living a long life), Chris' lifestyle, combined with ample evidence of his lack of physical prowess, means that this does not apply to him.

==Denial==
{{Quote|He's fat! Iiiiii'm thin!|Chris breaking out into chorus on [[Alec Benson Leary]]<ref>[[Christopher Paul Whitney reveal]]</ref>}}
[[Image:FattyLOL.jpg|thumb|180px|Horizontal stripes are very slimming!]]

Chris has generally been in denial about his weight. When a white knight once told him that he needed to lose some weight if he ever wanted to get a girlfriend, Chris responded by freaking out and exclaiming that he wasn't overweight.<ref>[[White knight E-mails#September 2008 .E2.80.94 Chris denies being fat and sexist]]</ref> In [[IRC]], Chris has been known to become very defensive about his weight, always making claims that he works out, when in fact he just stands up while playing ''Guitar Hero''. Chris's reaction to being called fat is precisely the same as his reaction to being called [[homos|gay]]. Unfortunately for Chris, there isn't a [[Homo#Defenses_against_becoming_homo|poster that will help him lose weight]]. He simply screams that he isn't fat, then oftentimes lies, and calls the person accusing him fat. He exhibited this behavior during an email with [[Evan]],<ref>[[Masturbating_and_squirtin%27#Transcript of Chrisreply1evan.jpg|1st email to Evan]]</ref> during his phone call with [[Father Call|Kacey's father]], and especially in his conversation with [[Kacey and Liquid Call|Kacey and Liquid Chris]], where insults about his weight triggered a screaming rage.

However, during his original rivalry with [[Liquid Chris]], Chris once finally admitted he was perhaps maybe just a little bit fat, but only because he could use this as proof that he was the ''real'' Christian Weston Chandler. A similar problem arose during the [[Asperchu]] saga, where Chris, in an attempt to prove that Asperchu was a parody of himself, was forced to admit that Asperchu's "Buddha belly" and "man boobs" are similar to his own. More specifically, he acts as though he ''used'' to have a sagging gut, even though he has, in fact, significantly gained weight since [[high school]]. He chose to focus on this aspect of Asperchu rather than admit his more embarrassing failures the series parodies. He did once admit in a [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call|phone call]] with [[Jack Thaddeus]] that he was not fit.

There is also convincing evidence that [[autism|Chris has difficulty recognizing]] the human figure — faces in particular. His consistent representation of himself as slender and athletic may be attributable to his having formed his self-image during high school, when he would spend hours studying his then-scrawnier self in the mirror, memorizing his looks. However, this is unlikely as Chris has never "spent hours studying" anything.<ref> [[Sonichu_7#Episode_16:_.22Time_Hogs.22|''Sonichu'' #7]] - "…I had to train my brain to visually remember what I looked like…"</ref>

Chris passed a kidney stone on July 9, 2017. According to the Mayo Clinic,<ref>http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/kidney-stones/symptoms-causes/dxc-20319562</ref> some causes of kidney stones include dehydration, certain diets that are rich in protein, sodium, and sugar, and being obese, which makes sense, seeing as Chris is fat, eats a lot of fast food, which is rich in sodium and sugar, and he commonly drinks soda over water, which unlike water, doesn't do well for hydration.

==In the comic==
[[File:SchuComic12-1P96.jpg|thumb|Fat Rosechu]]
Obesity in the ''Sonichu'' comic is largely limited to villains like [[Robotnik]] or the [[Jerkhief]] and comic relief like [[Sammy]], but [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]] contains a bizarre sequence in which [[Rosechu]] and [[Cera]] balloon up before later losing 200 pounds in two weeks. This was done to appeal to [[Jessica Quinn]], who had a fat fetish.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/CLog_10042017_-_Q%26A_1#Question_12:_About_the_Rosechu_weight_gain</ref><ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_Facebook_posts#Quinn.27s_missing_out</ref>

==See also==
* [[Chris and health]]
* [[Muscle bra|Manboobs]]
* [[McDonald's]]
* [[Burger King]]
* [[List of restaurants]]

==References==
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[[Category:Physical characteristics]]

Sonichu 0

2022-11-28T23:01:38Z

Necromaster: Seriously how come nobody has ever noticed that Sonic goes up Perfect Chaos's anus and flies out of his mouth? You can literally see sonic in Perfect Chaos's throat before Sonic hits Pikachu

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{{Infobox/Comic
| titleandissue = Sonichu #0
| cover = Sonichu - Issue 0, Cover.jpg
| coverdate = 24 November 2004
| began = 3 January 2004
| finishedcomic = 24 March 2005
| pagecount = 45
| episodes = 1-3
| sub-episodes = 1
| previous = n/a
| next = [[Sonichu 1|''Sonichu'' #1]]
}}
'''''Sonichu #0''''' is the first issue of [[Christian Weston Chandler]]'s ''[[Sonichu (comic)|magnum opus]]''. At this initial stage, the comic was ''almost'' entirely about [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]], although bits of Chris's life still managed to find their way in.

The "hand-drawn premiere issue" is a special zeroth issue. In the comics industry, zeroth issues are used as either a sales-enhancing gimmick (Image Comics is a notable user of this) or a special preview of work that will not truly begin until issue #1. Given that it previews nothing, which one Chris was going for is probably the former, though given that it's not legally able to be sold, it fails even that.

The comic consists of Sonichu's first three adventures. In "Sonichu's Origin", the core cast of the series is introduced as Sonichu and Rosechu are created. Then, in "Genesis of the Lovehogs", the two protagonists meet and immediately fall in love. Finally, in "Sonichu vs. Naitsirhc", our yellow hero does battle with his first real villain, who but foreshadows the challenges awaiting the hedgehogs in the following issue. Bonus material in ''Sonichu'' #0 includes various advertisements for imaginary Sonichu products, "classic" Sonichu comic strips drawn outside of the narrative of the main comic book, and the first "Sub-Episode".

Chris began working on ''Sonichu'' #0 by creating the cover on 24 November [[2004]] (although many of the classic strips predate this). He completed the primary story on 15 March [[2005]], although he was inspired by real-life events to return to this work and add the first-ever sub-episode featuring himself. In August 2017, Chris posted images showing a revised cover, in which his [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|self-insert]] was replaced by his [[Night Star|ponysona]].

==Episode 1: "Sonichu's Origin"==
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===Disclaimer Page===
{{quote|<nowiki>*Any names</nowiki>, or persons, illustrated in any of the [[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu Comics]], except that of [[Christian Weston Chandler]], that may seem similar to anyone in real life, are purely coincidental, or otherwise [[parody|parodic]].<nowiki>*</nowiki>|The Disclaimer}}
''Sonichu'' #0 features the first instance of the Disclaimer Page, in which Chris draws a squiggly line of insanity around the definitions of [[copyright]] and [[parody]]. This page will bear repeating in every subsequent episode and is read before every [[Videobook]].
[[File:Sonichu fanart.png|thumb|right|Unfortunately, this is [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2|tablet-drawn, so it's terrible]].]]

===Synopsis===
A wild male [[Pikachu]] wanders through a field until he notices catastrophic destruction five "[[Chris and English|mies]]" away in [[Station Square]], where the [[Perfect Chaos Monster]] is running rampant. He runs to the city, where he finds [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] battling the monster, using the [[Chaos Emeralds]] to transform into Super Sonic. Super Sonic then proceeds to fly up Perfect Chaos's anus and snake his way all the way though the monsters digestive system before shooting out of Perfect Chaos's mouth, hurling Sonic directly into the Pikachu, with the resulting collision causing the Chaos Emeralds' energy to mingle with that of Pikachu's, releasing a powerful [[rainbow]] (with the wrong order of colors) into the sky.

Fifteen miles away, the rainbow touches down in front of the house of (female) Pokémon trainer [[Kel]], whose female [[Raichu]] is caught in the blast. At both endpoints of the rainbow, the Pokémon affected are transformed into hedgehog-like creatures. Kel discovers that her Raichu is now pink, standing upright, wearing a red dress (somehow; as a Raichu she wore nothing), and capable of human speech. She remarks dubiously that this new species of Pokémon is "as pretty as a rose", and thus coins the name [[Rosechu]].

The former Pikachu awakens from the collision with Sonic and, failing to notice his transformation, joins Sonic in the battle against Perfect Chaos. His thunder attack defeats the monster, and the apparently blind gathering crowd mistakes him for Sonic (who has now departed until [[Sonichu 1]]) as they cheer him on. Later, after considering his new role in the universe, he names the species he has evolved into "Sonichu", in honor of his brief ally (rather than the fact that the design is obvious plagiarism from Sonic and Pikachu, as many assume).

{{quote|I am no longer a Pikachu, so with inspiration, I am now... SONICHU!}}

Episode 1 will later on be remade as a [[LittleBigPlanet]] [[LittleBigPlanet videos#Sonichu Episode 1 LittleBIGPlanet Level|level]].

===Analysis===
It's about as bad as you'd expect. Not only is the plot bland, it makes no sense; a Pikachu coming into contact with Super Sonic not only manages to turn that Pikachu into Sonichu, but also creates a rainbow that turns a Raichu into Rosechu? Super Sonic exists pretty much just to create the Sonichus, none of the other player characters from Sonic Adventure show up (not even Amy, which raises even further questions about how Rosechu even ''exists''), and there's a typo on the first page.

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==Introductions==
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Cartoon CWC takes some time out of the thrilling saga of Sonichu to provide exposition about key elements of the upcoming stories, with profiles on [[CWCville]] (as Chris puts it, the "cartoon world"), Sonichu, Rosechu, Kel, [[Naitsirhc]], [[Black Sonichu]], the [[Chaotic Combo]] and [[Flame the Sunbird]]. Chris hints at the significance of [[Chris-chan Sonichu]], [[Sarah Nicole Hammer#Saramah Rosechu|Saramah Rosechu]] and [[Wes-Li Sonichu]], and briefly mentions the villains of the series: [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and the [[Jerkop]]s. The greatest attention is given to [[Chris and his Ego|Christian himself]] and the fact that [[Love Quest|he needs a girlfriend]].

==Episode 2: "Genesis of the Lovehogs"==
[[Image:202-SchuRchuKissPSPWall.jpg|thumb|"Mine, and '''THE FIRST''' romantic attempt, and I did an ''AWESOME FUCKIN' JOB''"....]]
The bewildering title suggests that this is about the literal CREATION of the "Lovehogs", but it is, in fact, the beginning of their utterly rushed romance. [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] is wandering through the forest for no given reason. A week has passed since he was forcefully evolved by the power of the Chaos Emeralds, and he has found that in his larger form he cannot receive adequate sustenance from the diet of a [[Pikachu]] (which is nuts and apples). He is also overcome with a newly found sense of loneliness, being the only [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] in existence – at least, insofar as he is aware.

Just then, Sonichu notices [[Rosechu]] standing by a stream. He is [[Love Quest|instantly attracted]] to this similar species of hedgehog, and quietly '''stalks her''' as she returns to her home. Lurking in the bushes, Sonichu sees that Rosechu lives with her trainer, [[Kel]], and decides that he can [[May 2014 Facebook Posts|beg this person for food]].

Inside, Rosechu [[Stress sigh|complains]] of her loneliness. Kel generously offers her [[Pokémon#David the Dragonite/Daisy the Dragonite|Dragonite named David]] for [[Hanky-panky|companionship]], but Rosey dismisses the offer, claiming the Dragonite is "too big" (infer what you will) and that Kel can have him (again, infer what you will). Just then Rosechu answers a knock at the door to find Sonichu [[June_2014_Facebook_Posts#Wow|panhandling for change]]. Immediately smitten, she aggressively pulls him into the cabin and has Kel cook them dinner, a lovely {{w|Brunswick stew|Brunswick stew}} cooked in the microwave – Chris did not think to call it Bruns-CWC-stew.

{{quote|As long as birds tweet, you are my lovely heartsweet|Sonichu, attempting to be romantic to a girl he met 5 days ago.}}

Within a few days, Sonichu and Rosechu are inseparable. One night, while staring at [[the Moon]] out by the lake, they interlock tails and share their first kiss, in the first of far too many sappy and clichéd love scenes. Some readers have pointed out that, based on how Chris draws this scene, the two appear to be French Kissing.

===Analysis===
Given Christian's own [[Love Quest|inability to get laid]], "Genesis of the Lovehogs" provides fascinating insight into how he believes romance is supposed to work: boy sees girl, [[Megan Schroeder|boy stalks girl for five minutes]], girl wants to have sex with boy the second she lays eyes on him, happiness ensues.

===Advertisement 1===
The first of many [[parody]] ads appears between Episodes 2 and 3; this particular ad is for two ill-fated ''Sonichu'' games for Game Boy Advance: ''[[Sonichu Advance]]'' and ''[[Pokémon: Lightning Version]]''.
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==Episode 3: "Sonichu vs. Naitsirhc"==
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[[Image:201-SchuAqua.jpg|thumb|THE BUN IS IN YOUR MIND]]

===Synopsis===
We find Sonichu in [[CWCville Mall]], confronting [[Naitsirhc Giovanni]] riding a [[Zapdos]] that is clutching [[Rosechu]] in its talons. When hostage negotiations fail, the battle is on, and Sonichu briefly recalls how the situation arose.

Earlier in the day, [[Kel]] took her Pokémon into town to run errands, and allowed Rosechu to go shopping with Kel's credit card. Sonichu was entrusted to restrain Rosey's [[Women's rights|uncontrollably lavish spending]] – she is not to exceed $100. But, he quickly abandoned this duty to please his lover. Later in the food court, the couple visited a fast-food restaurant; being female, the feeble Rosechu could only eat a salad, while Sonichu attempted to eat a [[Aqua Teen Hunger Force|Baffler Meal]] and became sick from eating [[pickle]]s, claiming he did not know the burger came with pickles, even though (unless specified) pickles are one of the main garnishings on burgers. It was at this point that Zapdos ambushed the hedgehogs, capturing Rosey.

Using standard Pokémon fighting techniques (of which Pikachu is incapable), Sonichu shows up Zapdos with his Sky Uppercut and Mega Kick. For the ''coup de grâce'', Sonichu uses Double Team to confuse Zapdos with mirages of himself; he then uses this diversion to rescue Rosey before his duplicates zap the Zapdos, defeating it. Naitsirhc recalls the Zapdos to its Pokéball and swears he will challenge Sonichu again before riding off on a [[Raikou]]. Chris evidently believed that a shopping mall is a perfectly natural setting for this kind of thing to occur in.

Not once is it brought up that Rosechu could have easily electrocuted the Zapdos herself. A smart idea was she would find some tool on her person to use on the Zapdos to free herself.

Since this is Sonichu's first public outing in which he is not mistaken for [[Sonic]], he is heralded as a hero by the people of CWCville. [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Chris]] makes his debut as a full-fledged character, and, in his capacity as the city's mayor, congratulates the yellow hedgehog. Rosechu thanks her man for saving her, and Kel makes her final appearance until ''Sonichu'' #10.

{{quote|There he goes... with a grin on his face. In the end, he'll say "One girlfriend please|Sonichu on Chris's Love Quest}}

{{quote|Because he'll probably fail again...|Sonichu speaking the truth}}

Later, in the first of many segments that break the fourth wall, Christian and Sonichu leave the mall talking about the high quality of this issue of Sonichu, and Sonichu expresses amazement and incredulity when he learns that Christian's obvious talent has not earned him a [[boyfriend-free girl]]. Christian drives off to the [[Fashion Square Mall]] to continue his [[Love Quest]], while Sonichu morbidly admires his father's persistence in the face of certain failure. Why Sonichu refers to him as "father" when Chris was uninvolved in his in-universe creation, but Chris's laissez-faire relationship with the fourth wall means that Sonichu (and many ensuing characters) have an inherent knowledge of their real-life genitor.

===Analysis===
[[Image:SchuComicPage25_detail.jpg|thumb|Gotta Catch 'Em All!]]
Episode 3 is a good example of early [[CWCville]]. Sonichu is just a Mary Sue for Christian to play in a Sonic-inclusive-Pokéworld. Naitsirhc's motivation is that he's ''GOTTA CATCH 'EM ALL'' for his gangster father, Giovanni. Contrast this with his later incarnation, [[Reldnahc]], or Chris's enemies in the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens]].
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==Classic Sonichu Strips==
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Pages 28–34 of this issue feature comic strips drawn throughout [[2004]].

# 25 years into the future, [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] (now evolved into [[Metonic]]) recycles a joke from ''[[Excel Saga]]'' while chopping logs, while [[Rosechu]] (now evolved into [[Vamprosa]]) compliments his hard work. The title of the strip is by itself a recycling of "Mobius 25 Years Later", an arc from the [[Sonic the Hedgehog#Comics|''Sonic'' comics]].
# Sonichu asks Rosechu how things are going, and she explains she's been busy "being beautiful" but confesses that she hates working so hard at it (Chris evidently believes [[Women's rights|this is all women do and think about]]). Sonichu demonstrates his amazing ability to listen to women and respect their feelings (hint, hint, YOUNG LADIES) until Rosey calls out [[Black Sonichu]] for stalking them – she was happy enough when Sonichu was doing it, though. This is also the first mention of Black Sonichu – who would not be created until Episode 4.
# "Christian & Sonichu vs. the Mastermind": [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Christian]] and Sonichu defeat [[Mary Lee Walsh]] with the combined power of Chris's [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] and Sonichu's thunder attack. This would later be revised and turned into the conclusion of [[Sonichu_2#Sub-Episode_3:_Christian_Chandler_.26_Sonichu_in_.22Witch_Confront.22|Sub-Episode 3]].
# Sonichu and [[Chris-chan Sonichu]] rescue [[Barbara Chandler]] from [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc|Naitsirhc]]. Barbara is depicted characterizing Sonichu as Christian's son, which would make her the grandmother to and Electric Hedgehog – and making Sonichu and Rosechu guilty of incest.
# [[Chris-chan Sonichu]] is beaten up by [[Jerkop]]s, under orders from Mary Lee Walsh, whom the reader knows nothing about and whose motives will never be made clear. Rosechu, being female, stands around without intervening, for no clear reason. Her only role is to be exiting a store and yell "Oh no, Chris!". Eventually, [[Sarah Nicole Hammer#Saramah Rosechu|Saramah Rosechu]], who we have never met, arrives to save Chris so that he can reassure himself that he is still important in the life of a woman he cannot have sex with, with Sarah/Nicole saying she will assist him in his Love Quest, friend zoning him in the end. This Sub-[[Sub-Episode]] is later reincorporated into [[Sub-Episode 7]] in [[Sonichu 4|''Sonichu'' #4]], being the opening to the sub-episode, leaving Mary Lee Walsh/Slaweel to get revenge on Chris (not Saramah, the one responsible for her defeat). Saramah would not be officially in the comic until Issue 2.
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==Sub-Episode 1: Christian Chandler in "Jerkop-tastropie"==
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[[Image:Jerkhief_my_soul_hurts.jpg|thumb|MY SOUL HURTS!]]
One year and seven months into [[Christian]]'s [[Love Quest]], he ponders his lack of progress while listening to music on his Nintendo DS. Just then, the enormously fat [[niggos|black]] [[Jerkhief]] towers over Chris, rightfully calling him out and accusing Chris of soliciting sex. Chris is outraged by this correct assessment of his actions and valiantly defends his honor. The Jerkhief summons his [[Jerkops]] to handcuff Chris, but his keen tactical mind allows him to spot his assailant and dodge them, somehow causing a Jerkop to handcuff himself. Chris kicks a Jerkop in his [[duck]] and backhands another Jerkop square in the face, giving him enough breathing room to transform into [[Chris-Chan Sonichu]].

The Jerkhief responds by summoning his Metal Armor (which only gets a "tick-tock clock" panel rather than a full transformation scene, and a pitched battle begins. Chris-Chan uses Mega Kick, Double Team, Mirror Coat, and Thunderbolt to disarm the Jerkhief, and honorably offers mercy to his defeated foe. But the Jerkhief is without honor; defiant to the end, he fires a handgun at Chris-Chan, who uses Barrier to deflect the pitiful attack.

His enemy beaten, Chris decides to unleash his Special Ultimate Attack, the dreaded [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] (known as Shin-Ye-ha-me-ha in edited comics). The Jerkhief initially feels no adverse effect and rises to fight back, but the curse soon sets in; he slips on a banana peel that appeared out of nowhere, knowing Chris [[Obesity|couldn't have eaten it]], breaks his glasses and learns that his wife has just divorced him over his smoking habit, taking the custody to his kids, house, and everything he owns with her (all of this somehow takes place within the brief skirmish at the mall). The Jerkhief's life is shattered, and Chris makes sure he knows that he deserved all of it. The Jerkhief cries that his soul hurts; Chris [[Chris and his Ego|responds that he's suffered worse,]] presumably referring to the soul-rending agony of being forced to stop soliciting sex on private property, ending the comic with "My heart was previously shattered".

===Analysis===
This is the first, though [[Sonichu 4|ce]][[Sonichu 8|rta]][[Sonichu 10|inly]] not the last, time Chris would use his comic to create bizarre power fantasies in which he was [[Chris and reality|victorious in events he was not in real life]]. Sub-Episode 1, along with the other Sub-Episodes, is reprinted in [[Sonichu 4|''Sonichu'' #4]].

[[Niggos|Note that the Jerkhief is black]]. [[Chris and English|Also note that Chris misspelled the title, spelling "-tastrophe" as "-tastropie"]].

===Advertisement 2===
''[[Sonichu Adventure]]'', coming <s>soon</s> never exclusively for the Nintendo GameCube! (Note that Chris drew most of the GameCube dress by hand, but likely forgot the "Only for" label and thus had to photoshop it in.)

This ad appeared between the Classic Sonichu Strips and Sub-Episode 1 in the initial release of ''Sonichu'' #0 but moved to the back cover on the more recent [[CWCipedia]] version. Ads for ''Sonichu Adventure'' would continue to run in future issues, all the way through to [[Sonichu 6|''Sonichu'' #6]].
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==Comic pages==
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File:Sonichu - Issue 0, Cover.jpg|Cover
File:Sonichu - Jargon Page.jpg|Disclaimer<ref>The disclaimer originally appeared only as text under the cover image.</ref>
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<gallery caption="Episode 1: Sonichu's Origin" mode="nolines" perrow="10">
File:Sonichu - Episode 1, Page 1.jpg | Page 1
File:Sonichu - Episode 1, Page 2.jpg | Page 2
File:Sonichu - Episode 1, Page 3.jpg | Page 3
File:Sonichu - Episode 1, Page 4.jpg | Page 4
File:Sonichu - Episode 1, Page 5.jpg | Page 5
File:Sonichu - Episode 1, Page 6.jpg | Page 6
File:Sonichu - Episode 1, Page 7.jpg | Page 7
File:Sonichu - Episode 1, Page 8.jpg | Page 8
File:Sonichu - Episode 1, Page 9.jpg | Page 9
File:Sonichu - Episode 1, Page 10.jpg | Page 10
File:Sonichu - Episode 1, Page 11.jpg | Page 11
File:Sonichu - Episode 1, Page 12.jpg | Page 12 (original)
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<gallery caption="Episode 2: Genesis of the Lovehogs" mode="nolines" perrow="10">
File:Sonichu - Episode 2, Page 1.jpg | Page 13
File:Sonichu - Episode 2, Page 2.jpg | Page 14
File:Sonichu - Episode 2, Page 3.jpg | Page 15
File:Sonichu - Episode 2, Page 4.jpg | Page 16
File:Sonichu - Episode 2, Page 5.jpg | Page 17
File:Sonichu - Advertisement, Sonichu on Game Boy Advance.jpg | Page 18 ([[Game Boy]] advert)
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<gallery caption="Episode 3: Sonichu vs. Naitsirhc" mode="nolines" perrow="10">
File:Sonichu - Episode 3, Page 1.jpg|Page 19
File:Sonichu - Episode 3, Page 2.jpg|Page 20
File:Sonichu - Episode 3, Page 3.jpg|Page 21 (original)
File:Sonichu - Episode 3, Page 4.jpg|Page 22
File:Sonichu - Episode 3, Page 5.jpg|Page 23
File:Sonichu - Episode 3, Page 6.jpg|Page 24
File:Sonichu - Episode 3, Page 7.jpg|Page 25 (original)
File:Sonichu - Episode 3, Page 8.jpg|Page 26 (original)
File:Sonichu - Episode 3, Page 9.jpg|Page 27
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File:Sonichu - Classic Strips, Page 1.jpg|Page 28 (original)
File:Sonichu - Classic Strips, Page 2.jpg|Page 29
File:Sonichu - Classic Strips, Page 3.jpg|Page 30 (original)
File:Sonichu - Classic Strips, Page 4.jpg|Page 31
File:Sonichu - Classic Strips, Page 5.jpg|Page 32
File:Sonichu - Classic Strips, Page 6.jpg|Page 33 (original)
File:Sonichu - Classic Strips, Page 7.jpg|Page 34 (original)
File:Sonichu - Advertisement, Sonichu Adventure for Gamecube.jpg|Page 35 ([[Sonichu (game)#Sonichu Adventure|Sonichu Adventure]] advert)
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File:Sonichu - Sub-Episode 1, Page 1.jpg |Page 36<ref>Page 36 was repeated on the [[CWC's Sonichu Site!|Sonichu]] website: compare [https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcville/SchuComicP18.htm this page] with [https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcville/SchuSubE1P1.htm this page].</ref>
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File:Sonichu - Sub-Episode 1, Page 3.jpg |Page 38 (original)
File:Sonichu - Sub-Episode 1, Page 4.jpg |Page 39 (original)
File:Sonichu - Sub-Episode 1, Page 5.jpg |Page 40 (original)
File:Sonichu - Sub-Episode 1, Page 6.jpg |Page 41 (original)
File:Sonichu - Sub-Episode 1, Page 7.jpg |Page 42 (original)
File:Sonichu - Sub-Episode 1, Page 8.jpg |Page 43 (original)
File:Sonichu - Sub-Episode 1, Page 9.jpg |Page 44 (original)
File:Sonichu - Sub-Episode 1, Page 10.jpg|Page 45 (original)
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File:Sonichu - Sub-Episode 1, Page 2, Revision 1.jpg |Page 37 (numbered)
File:Sonichu - Sub-Episode 1, Page 3, Revision 1.jpg |Page 38 (numbered)
File:Sonichu - Sub-Episode 1, Page 4, Revision 1.jpg |Page 39 (numbered)
File:Sonichu - Sub-Episode 1, Page 5, Revision 1.jpg |Page 40 (numbered)
File:Sonichu - Sub-Episode 1, Page 6, Revision 1.jpg |Page 41 (numbered)
File:Sonichu - Sub-Episode 1, Page 7, Revision 1.jpg |Page 42 (numbered)
File:Sonichu - Sub-Episode 1, Page 8, Revision 1.jpg |Page 43 (numbered)
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File:Sonichu - Sub-Episode 1, Page 10, Revision 1.jpg|Page 45 (numbered)
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File:Sonichu - Episode 1, Page 12, Revision 1.jpg|Page 12
File:Sonichu - Episode 3, Page 3, Revision 1.jpg|Page 21
File:Sonichu - Episode 3, Page 7, Revision 1.jpg|Page 25
File:Sonichu - Episode 3, Page 8, Revision 1.jpg|Page 26
File:Sonichu - Classic Strips, Page 1, Revision 1.jpg|Page 28
File:Sonichu - Classic Strips, Page 3, Revision 1.jpg|Page 30
File:Sonichu - Classic Strips, Page 6, Revision 1.jpg|Page 33
File:Sonichu - Classic Strips, Page 7, Revision 1.jpg|Page 34
File:Sonichu - Sub-Episode 1, Page 5, Revision 2.jpg |Page 40
File:Sonichu - Sub-Episode 1, Page 6, Revision 2.jpg |Page 41
File:Sonichu - Sub-Episode 1, Page 7, Revision 2.jpg |Page 42
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==See also==
{{CWCipedia|chris=Sonichu Comic Collection|linkname=the Sonichu Comic Collection}}
*[[Sonichu (comic)]]
*[[Sonichu (character)]]
*{{c|Sonichu 0 Cover Parodies}}

==Fan videos==

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| stardate = 7 [[January 2019]]
| maker = Otis Le PoOtis
| subject - ''Sonichu'' #0
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== References ==

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==External links==

[https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B6mRSOBYFcaBYThURjdTbjFEMWs Download this episode as a .zip file]

[https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0YAeeOBqtP3OXJuMG5idVBWVXc/view?usp=drivesdk Download Sonichu 0 as a .cbz file, so you can read it the way GodBear and Jesus intended.]

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Affair with Mother

2022-10-26T21:01:11Z

Necromaster: A summary of the nature of the affair; there may be flaws with it but I tried my best to be as neutral as possible in the debate on consent. Please don't just delete it I spent two hours on this stupid part.

:''This page is about the affair itself. For the leaks in which Chris describes incestuous acts, see [[Incest Call]] and [[Incest Texts]]. For the subsequent legal consequences, see [[Jail Saga]]. For Chris's general stance on incest, see [[Chris and sex#Incest|here]].''

{{Honest}}
{{Misinfo|Chris is awaiting his trial on the felony charge of incest, not rape. Whether or not Chris's incestuous affair with Barb was entirely consensual is not known for sure. Along with that, the root cause of it currently cannot be verified, and Barb's mental state at the time can merely be guessed at. While reports often claim that Barb has dementia, these claims are entirely unproven and are based on circumstantial evidence in begging videos, where she may be playing up her frailty to elicit pity for more money. Letters where Chris describes Barb as being "zombie-like" and "sickly" also cannot be used against him in court unless he is first charged with rape, as they are purely his word.<ref group=note>Chris has currently only been formally acussed of incest, though this indictment may be subject to change when new evidence comes to light.</ref> In light of all of that, ''avoid calling Chris a rapist on this wiki unless he is officially charged, or has been fully confirmed to have raped Barb.}}

{{quote|Anyhow, who among Everyone in this world has not had a dream of having sex with one of their parents? Never acting on them ever, [[Honest Content|I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother]].|Chris on [[Facebook]] in [[2016]]. Chris would act on his instincts five years later.<ref name=dream>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>}}
{{quote|You're supposed to say: "Turn me loose, you silly goose!" '''...You used to do that more flirtingly.'''|Chris while forcefully embracing [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}
[[File:SoulBonding.jpg|thumb|An artist's interpretation of the act. ([[For Julie's Eyes Only|We can only imagine that Chris shouted "BARBAAAY!" at least once when this happened.]])]]
For years, trolls joked that [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]], in his desperation to find a [[boyfriend-free girl]], would eventually turn to [[Barbara|his mom]] based on his occasional off‐putting comments about her and their constant proximity to one another. Few thought he would ever go through with the act, though — but Chris found a way to surprise and horrify everybody.

Chris and Barb's '''incestuous affair''' most likely began on 27 June,<ref name=call>[[Incest call#Transcript]]</ref><ref name=wct/> but [[June 2021 social media posts|his social media presence in]] earlier in the month, may hint at an earlier start to the affair. As early as 22 June, he began addressing Barbara by the unsettling pet name of "Barbie Chan", which may have indicated when he began to get intimate with her. After this date Chris claimed that he had sex with her once every three nights until being forcibly stopped by being removed from the house.

On 28 July 2021, during a call with [[Isabella Loretta Janke|Isabella "Bella" Loretta Janke]], [[Honest Content|Chris revealed the details of his sexual activities with his mother of his own volition]], also discussing it in text messages later that day. In those, Chris discussed stimulating his elderly mother with his hands, performing cunnilingus on her, and having penetrative sex with her.<ref name=deviant>[[Incest Texts]]</ref> He claimed that Barbara compared him favorably to her previous sexual partners, including Chris's father [[Bob]], who had been unable to provide her with an orgasm or stimulate her {{w|G-spot}}.

Files were leaked to the public the following night,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/oudn5m/chris_chan_admits_to_having_sex_with_his_mother/</ref> and social workers removed Chris from Barbara on the morning of 30 July.

In early August 2021, Chris was [[Jail Saga|arrested, officially charged with one count of incest, and is currently being held without bail – pending trial]].

Chris has [[Affair with Mother#Chris's Comments on the Affair post-incarceration|commented on the charges against him]] numerous times since his arrest. As can be seen below, he initially appeared to acknowledge that incest occured between him and his mother but later denied it.

==Background and foreshadowing==
{{Needs Updating|[[Lonely feelings]], [[Teen Troon Squad chats]]}}

[[File:July28BeautyArtwork.jpg|thumb|left|400px|Note the talk of "soul bonding" in the right-hand corner.]]

In general, the relationship between Chris and his mother has always been seen as a "little too close", likely due to his mother's overly coddling nature towards him in his early life all through to his adulthood mixed with the emotionally abusive control tactics she implemented against both him and Bob. It was keenly noted during the [[DoopieDoOver|Doopie Saga]] that Chris had used the words "[[darling]]" and "dear", commonly reserved for romantic relationships, to refer to his mother.

Many Christorians have noted that potential hints or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris and his mother have been made previously. In a [[PVCC NEW info: on Chris and Barbara spoon eachother!|2010 voice chat]] between various [[PVCC]] forum members, [[Kim Wilson]] talked about a discussion where Chris revealed he was spooning his mother on a regular basis. She also revealed that Chris told her that he'd once had a [[Dreams|wet dream]] about Barb as an Egyptian belly dancer. When asked by Emily if he'd repopulate the planet if he and his mother were the only two people left in existence, Chris went silent and then denied any desire to have sex with his mother.

[[File:SuitressRedditPost.jpg|thumb|"Top 10 Hottest Anime Moms Ever", a video Chris watched on 25 July 2021, days before he confessed to incestuous acts on his mother.<ref>Date can be seen in [[:File:SuitressTablet.jpg]]</ref>]]

As early as October 2015, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement for the [[pepper spray]] incident, Chris and his mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion.<ref>[[26 December 2014#15 October Hearing]]</ref> As recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as [[Magi-Chan]], referred to his mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Furthermore, in August 2016, Chris admitted to having [[Dreams#Mother_dreams|dreams of having sex with his mother]] in a Facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother".<ref name=dream></ref> Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwi Farms that following the [[2014 house fire]], Chris and his mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating "I am not a '[[wikipedia:Norman Bates|Bates]]'. OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>

According to both [[Bella]] and [[MKRNightVee]], Chris brought up the dreams of sex with his mother again to them in private conversations. In a 19 [[July 2021]] conversation with the [[Chess Club]] Discord server, Bella mentioned that Chris, during his phase of [[role-play]]ing as Sonichu, brought up that he had a dream of having sex with his mother, to which Bella replied that it was weird and questioned what it meant, to which an offended Chris asked if she was calling Chris weird.<ref>[[Chess Club Chats#Suicide Plan Claims]]</ref> On 30 [[July 2021]], MKR commented about the leak of the incest news, and mentioned that Chris had told her about sexual dreams with his mother, and that MKR dismissed it as one of Chris's many crazy dreams.<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1421182090586988549 (archive: https://archive.ph/Scjbk)</ref>

[[July 2021 social media posts#Beauty artwork|Chris released a piece of artwork on his Twitter feed]] on 28 [[July 2021]], showing "soul-bonding" between an elderly Libra woman (which Barb is) and a younger woman that suspiciously looks like [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Chris's fictionalized counterpart]], clandestinely hinting at the horrifying affair that was just days from being revealed. (This only major inconsistency is that Chris is a Pisces, not a Gemini; he most likely mixed up his Astrology signs when drawing this.) [[The Suitress]] had also posted a screen cap of a video on Reddit, which Chris claimed that he had watched days prior to his affair being revealed.

Chris had stated [[Lonely feelings|in a conversation]] he had with [[Watchmen]] members that he had feelings of loneliness, and had wanted to get action on with a real, physical woman. Unfortunately for everyone, Chris's desires would lead him to a very dark place.

== The affair ==

On 27 June 2021, Chris began to engage in incest with his mother.<ref name=call/><ref name=wct>[[WCT DMs#New sweetheart]]</ref> Chris claimed he "approached her with care and caution," and that Barb even made the "first move."<ref name=call/>

When pressed for details on the dirty deed, Chris has shown an unsurprising lack of [[Chris and remorse|remorse]] for his actions, stating that his actions were ordained by [[Chris and religion|GodJesus Himself]]. If anything, he was more upset that [[Bella]], [[Null]], [[Dillin]], and other people ratted him out [[Honest Content|after he provided a confession to a felony]].<ref>[[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021]]</ref><ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 October 2021]]</ref>

=== The gory details ===

{{Protip|[[Fabricated BDSM texts|Texts purporting BDSM roleplay]] are fakes doctored by Bella. With that said, this list is still not entirely reliable, as details may vary and because Chris is [[List of Chris's lies|typically not interested in honesty in these scenarios]].}}
[[File:SurrealIncest.png|thumb|A surreal depiction of the events]]
In case you have some kind of morbid curiosity of how the affair could have went down, here is a list of "activities" that Chris had allegedly done to/with his mother:

#'''Massages'''<ref>[[July 2021 social media posts#Signature sex move]]</ref> - Presumably full body ones since it included her thighs (and her face for some reason); this is probably the same type of massage he gave to [[Mia Hamm]]. Chris also claimed in a chat with [[The WCT]] that he had bought massaging oil, and made the claim that it is perfect to use on one's lover. <ref>[[WCT DMs#Massage oil and dream]]</ref>
#'''Kissing''' - Apparently did not involve tongues.
#'''Outer Course''' - Rubbing her pussy with his fingers and hands, this happened at least twice before the next step, probably more.
#'''Intercourse''' - By this, he means fingering her, it apparently hurt her when he did so.
#'''Cunnilingus''' - Eating her out, [[Chris and his ego|claims he's good at it]]. No information about if she returned the favour. <ref name=deviant/>
#'''Penetration''' - Vaginal, apparently with the use of a condom, he proceeded to get himself tested for STI's afterwards anyway.
#'''Cuddling''' - According to a letter from jail, Chris supposedly "cuddled" with Barb in the times of incest.<ref name=letter>[[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021]]</ref>

According to [[Null]], Chris had been buying large amounts of sex toys and lingerie from [[Adam & Eve]] for several months prior to committing his acts.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPjmy3K7uT8</ref> What sex toys Chris potentially used, if any, is uncertain.

===Negligee===
{{Main|Negligee}}
[[File:CWCWithFanJun27.png|thumb|100px|left|A photo of Chris wearing the negligee in front of a fan.]]
Chris stated that he purchased a negligee and claimed that Barb approved of the idea.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Sexy negligee]]</ref> This was eventually confirmed on 3 March 2022, when a Reddit fan posted photos of themselves with Chris in the negligee.

{{clear}}

==Rationalizations==
Chris has rationalized the affair in multiple ways.

*'''Divine approval''' - Chris claimed in the [[Incest Call]] that God told him the incest was okay.

*'''Soul-Bonding and Healing''' - In a jail letter that [[Emanuel]] told him to have sex with Barb in order to "heal" her and "cleanse her of her sins".<ref name=letter/> In a later letter, Chris mentions that "Soul Bonding does not necessarily constitute sex" which implies that it ''can'' be.<ref>[[Jail_Letter - 16_November_2021]]</ref> He described soul-bonding as "the Bonding and Union of Auras (Energy Fields) between at least two individuals."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 June 2022]]</ref> Chris seems to be under the impression that if he didn't engage in this "healing" then Barbara would have died or being more heavily injured by her recent car accident, completely ignoring the fact that if Chris had not engaged in it, chances are Barb wouldn't have been in a car accident at all, since she wouldn't have been forced to drive on her own due to her son's absence.<ref>[[Jail_Letter - 11 January 2022]]</ref>

*'''Defense measure against Sockness''' - Chris claimed that "my having had sex is also a defense mechanism in regards to [[Sockness]] and what he had/may have in mind with me and being near me," referring to Sockness's history of scheming to have sex with Chris, and that Chris planned to use the fact of his affair as a "truth bomb" to deter Sockness.<ref name=soulbonding>[[Bella chats#Soul Bonding]]</ref>

==Awareness of wrongdoing==
Chris was aware of the illegal nature of incest. In August 2016, he read a news article on the topic of a mother and son charged with incest and commented over Facebook on it, defending the two and saying they should not be sent to jail.<ref name=dream></ref>

Five years later, in the midst of his own affair with his mother, Chris still demonstrated awareness that the action was illegal. While he desired to discuss the affair with people, he first concocted a cover story in which he used misleading euphemisms such as "lady friend" to describe his sexual partner and claimed that the supposed lady friend and Barb had met each other<ref name=spill>[[Bella chats#Chris Wants to Spill the Beans]]</ref><ref>[[WCT DMs#Chris describes his lady friend]]</ref> and he insisted on keeping the identity of the lady friend secret,<ref name=soulbonding></ref><ref name=null>[[Null DMs#Chris vaguely describes his relationship]]</ref><ref name=wct></ref> though he dropped hints such as age<ref name=soulbonding></ref> and employment history.<ref name=null></ref>

After a month of using his cover story, Chris decided to push further and tell someone that his mother was the sexual partner. He selected [[Bella]]. Before telling her, Chris first spent time trying to manipulate her into keeping silent on what he would say by use of a guilt trip.

{{quote|And I ask you Not to Overthink or ask for further details in pressing on. That is not a good thing to do.|Chris to Bella, 17 July 2021<ref name=soulbonding></ref>}}

Over a week later, Chris, ready to divulge his secret, first claimed to Bella that he was uncertain of telling her as he was concerned about the government hacking into the conversation, which backfired on Chris as this tipped off Bella into suspecting that he was about to discuss an illegal act.<ref>[[Bella and Suitress chats#Bella suspects incest]]</ref>

{{quote|I realize I am remaining and sounding distant on the questioning, and it will become more clear and obvious when I tell you, in-person, who she is.

I actually wish I could tell you over text or voice call, but the government and anyone with the tech can easily hack into those methods|Chris, prior to the [[Incest Call]].<ref name=spill></ref>}}

Within the same conversation, Chris recommended using the encrypted text/video call app Signal (having used it to communicate with [[Null]]), which Bella agreed to download.<ref name=spill></ref>

==Leaks==
{{main|Incest call|Incest texts}}
In the leaks, Chris admits that he and his mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris masturbating his mother, and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. It is further alleged that his mother compared him to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father.

{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. Then she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played with down there by hand.|Text message from Chris.<ref name=deviant></ref>}}
{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing his sexual activities with his father's sexual activities.<ref name=deviant></ref>}}
[[File:Arrestchu.jpeg|thumb|"Ladies and gentlemen, we got him."]]

The leaked audio likewise contained graphic descriptions of sexual activity, which Chris alludes to as the veracity of "incest fanfics". The authenticity of the recording was confirmed by Chris to [[Dillin Thomas]].<ref name="admission">[[Incest fallout chat leaks#Chris confesses to Dillin Thomas]]</ref>

Prior to the allegations being revealed to the public, Chris informed [[Bella]], [[Null]], and [[The WCT]] about the fact that he found a [[boyfriend-free girl]], although he wanted her identity to remain secret. He offered multiple hints about the identity of his new [[sweetheart]], but told Null that he wanted him to figure out who it was. Null was initially skeptical of the incest claims, since the [[Idea Guys]] previously coerced him into recording a (then untrue) statement that he had raped Barb, and believed that this could be another instance of similar manipulation. Null hypothesized that Chris was attempting to protect the identity of his new girlfriend by making up an elaborate lie, but eventually came to realize that Chris had been having frequent sex with Barb upon reviewing Chris's hints.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20220722125709/https://kiwifarms.net/threads/everything-chris-told-me-about-his-girlfriend.96659/</ref>

After this information eventually came to light, Chris indicated that it was "drama" and that he only intended to share the information to [[Messiah complex|test his followers]], who he trusted not to share the information with the public at large despite incest being illegal. Chris later compared Null to {{w|Judas Iscariot}} for "betraying" him by trusting him with such [[Honest Content]]. [[Chris and remorse|Chris being Chris]], he seems to be more upset over the fact that [[Honest Content|trusting people not to leak evidence of a criminal act]] led to [[Jail Saga|serious, life-changing consequences for him]] than the idea that he may have caused harm to Barb, and as multiple [[jail letters]] show, he does not have guilt over the fact that he did something illegal (not to mention he clearly hasn't learned from ''years'' of experience that [[Honest Content|constantly sharing personal information at the drop of a hat]], be it embarrassing or '''incriminating''' in this case, invariably comes back to bite him in the rear later on).

== Was it consensual? ==

{{Protip| The following information should not be taken as definite proof that Chris raped Barbra or not; this is simply a list of evidence that Chris has provided himself which due to Chris's habit of lying for the pettiest of reasons can be seen as unreliable by some. Due to the sensitive nature of this topic please avoid saying for certain if Chris did or did not rape Barb.}}

On the cwcki there are two main camps that people fall into when discussing this topic:
There are the people whom believe the affair to be abusive or even flat out non-consensual while there are other people who believe the affair was consensual between the two.

The following list contains many common points of argument for both sides but also a counter argument for each and every one.

The evidence for the affair being non consensual are as follows:

* Barbra has been speculated to be suffering from dementia or some other form of mental decline; there are too many videos of her displaying symptoms to list but this could be her intentionally faking it for sympathy donations.
* Chris mentioned during [[Incest Texts]] that Barb told him to stop during his attempts to finger her; however this would have been Chris's first time fingering a woman ([[Mia Hamm]] didn't allow him to do so during their times together) and Chris mentioned this act hurt Barb at first; meaning Barb could have been stopping him from his attempts due to the pain but otherwise consented to be fingered.
* Chris during the [[Incest Call]] mentions that Barb seemed partially confused at first; although Chris did say she "came around" so it's possible he was referring to his advances towards her and she didn't initially understand/ believe what Chris was asking for.
* Chris mentioned in [[Jail Letter - 22 July 2022 (2)]] that Barbra was "Zombie like" and not even aware of her surroundings since even before the affair began; while damning (if true) its worth mentioning that Chris during the letter is begging Kenneth for assistance in moving Barbra out of the house, arguing that Barb simply cannot take care of herself. Chris being Chris could simply not know the implications of what he's actually saying and its quite possible that Chris is desperately lying since Kenneth disapproved of the idea unless there was no other option for Barb.

The evidence for the affair being consensual are as follows:

* Chris and Barbra's relationship is infamously creepy and way too close for comfort; this is the main source of people believing the affair was consensual and for good reason. Barb would often yell at Chris if he didn't share a bed with her and Chris has admitted numerous times that he spoons with her (after Bob's death), they were also often seen talking to each over and even holding each over as if they were husband and wife for a long time before the affair began. Barbra is infamous for being horribly manipulative for her own personal gain and she does not see any problem with codling and emotionally blackmailing Chris in order to go along with what she wants to do (usually money or food related stuff); with this in mind while their relationship is definitely unhealthy for a mother and son to have, it does not prove that Barbra was interested in an incestuous affair with Chris
* Chris claimed to Null during his temporary homelessness in [[Null DMs| a direct message]] that the affair was definitely consensual; [[Honest Content|however even somebody like Chris]] would probably hesitate to admit raping their own mother, especially to his main benefactor at the time.
* Chris boasted during the [[Incest Call]] that Barbra was "having a good time" and even claimed that he let her make the first move; even if this is true it does not rule out that Chris hadn't coerced or otherwise manipulated her into having sex with him since he did mention in the same call that she was "partially confused at first". Chris's idea of approaching a love interest with "care and caution" '''does not''' translate to consent or even consideration for somebody else's feelings; his idea of nervous behaviour around [[Kacey]] for example included touching her multiple times without her consent and his interactions with [[Megan]] which he describes as "friendly" also included a lot of unwanted attempts to hug and kiss her.
* In [[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022]] Chris claimed that after he lost his virginity with Mia Hamm and told his mom about it, Barbra stated that she would have had sex with him herself; while this does sound like Barbra offering herself to Chris there is a massive possibility that Barb was simply saying he could pull women without paying them (for example when [[Pmurt]] stated that he would date his daughter if he was somebody else not related to her), while definitely creepy it does not mean she actually wanted sex with him and even if she did, the quote came from decade beforehand so would not count as consenting to the affair.

In the end we will perhaps never truly know; Barbra is not willing to comment or give any further details (and thankfully nobody has pressed her on such) and Chris is currently in denial that the affair ever took place. If Chris is formally charged and sentenced with felony incest (or perhaps rape) it could be a case of Chris simply piling on tons of badly worded evidence against himself [[Honest Content|(as he's done throughout most of his life)]]; if Chris is found innocent or just given the sentence for misdemeanour incest it could be seen as yet another miscarriage of justice which Chris gets away with a crime he actually committed, [[Law |(something that he has also done throughout most of his life)]].

Ironically despite this being one of the most important moments in Chris's life,[[Geno Samuel| a life that has been documented extensively down the the finest detail]], we continue to and will likely never know the important details of it.

==Chris's Comments on the Affair post-incarceration==

During his recent incarceration Chris has communicated numerous times with members of the public via letters and telephone calls. Some of those letters and recordings which have been publicly shared contain commentary by Chris regarding the charges for which he is currently in jail. The first publicly available letter in which Chris touches on the subject of the alleged incest was written on [[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021|19 September 2021]]. In it, he appears to strongly imply that he indeed had sex with Barbara. Chris's comments on the affair are tied with his elaboration of his previously expressed delusions of Godhood. He reveals to have realized himself to be the present day reincarnation of Jesus Christ. The supreme Goddess Emanuelle had ordered him to to purify Barbara of her sins and improve her abilities as well. In his description of how this was done, Chris writes that he and his mother "mainly Cuddled, Soul-Bonded, and Talked." No sexual acts are explicitly mentioned, but the rest of the letter strongly implies that they were included in Chris's "healing" of Barbara. Chris goes on to write that the healing he performed on his mother was similarly done by him on other individuals during his previous life as Jesus Christ, though the details of said healings were omitted from the the Bible. Chris then goes on to inform the letter's recipient that "We Gods had eased up on the views of "Adultry [sic]"; WHY Else do you all have Pro-Gay, and Pro-Lesbian, Pro-Trans, and all Today and the past Decades?" While the word "adultery" is typically used to refer to marital infidelity, it appears that in this letter it should be read as "acts that go against traditional sexual morality". By grouping the "healing" of Barbara in the same category as intimate relations between members of the same sex, Chris strongly implies that the "healing" of Barbara likewise included romantic and sexual acts. Chris's defense of the "healing" on the counts that all those who were involved in it were both willing and above the legal age of consent further enhances the impression that it was at least partially sexual in nature.

While he 19 September letter was just a few baby steps away from being an explicit admission of incest, it did not take long for Chris to become more coy as to whether or not incest between him and Barb had occurred. In a [[Jail Call - 1 November 2021|1 November 2021 telephone call]] Chris failed to either explicitly deny or acknowledge that he and Barb had sex. The same ambiguousness regarding the truthfulness of the charges against him can be seen in a letter written on [[Jail Letter - 16 November 2021|16 November 2021]].

At some point Chris changed his tune and began to outright deny that there was any sexual intimacy between him and his mother. As far as public evidence goes, Chris first explicitly denied the charges against him in the [[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022|11 May 2022 jail letter]]. In the same letter Chris alleges that in [[May 2012]] Barbara made sexual advances towards him after he revealed to her that he had paid a prostitute a month beforehand. He goes on to write that after the death of Bob Barb came to see Chris as a husband-like figure. Further denials that Chris ever had sexual relations with Barb appear in jail letters written on [[Jail Letter - 1 June 2022|1 June]] and [[Jail Letter - 4 June 2022|4 June 2022]]. Chris does acknowledge that prior to his arrest he told others that he had sex with Barb, but by now he claims that those admissions were false. As he wrote in the 4 June 2022 letter: "I have never had sex with Barbara; that was purely Big Talk to Divinely Test everyone." Already in the letters from 19 September 2021 and 16 November 2021 Chris claimed that his pre-arrest admissions were made in order to test certain individuals, but only recently Chris began to claim that these admissions were false.

==Consequences==
{{Main|Jail Saga}}
It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest – sexual activities between a parent and a child are a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. Chris was swiftly removed from his home by an Emergency Protective Order, then arrested the next day. In the wake of his charges, Chris was [[ban]]ned from [[Patreon]] and [[Tapas]]. Collaborators who had once worked with him withdrew, such as the band who released [[Love is Love (song)|Love is Love]] pulling it from sale.

Since then, he was held without bail in Central Virginia Regional Jail before getting transferred to [[Western State Hospital]], awaiting trial.<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/269663503100241/photos/a.398555170211073/4389133984486485/?type=3 Press release]</ref> On 3 [[May 2022]], Chris was transferred back to CVRJ.

If Barb consented, she could be charged as a willing participant. If Barb did ''not'' consent, as some have speculated that she may be incapable of that, Chris's potential sentence could be significantly longer given the severity of a rape charge.

===Chris and Barbara's relationship===
{{Needs Updating|Citations}}
Chris and Barbara's relationship deteriorated during Chris's stay in jail. In a jail letter, Chris mentioned that Barb had ceased communicating with him.{{cite}}. During summer 2022, Chris began to speak ill of Barb in his letters, insulting and making spurious claims about her.{{cite}} While still in jail, Chris began planning for his housing post-release. In light of a restraining order being placed on Chris preventing him from contact with Barb{{cite}}, Chris believed he deserved to live in [[14 Branchland Court]] over Barb, and requested his [[enablers]] assist him with a [[Kickstarter]] fundraiser to bribe Barb into moving into senior housing, claiming that [[Caden]] was helping with this scheme, and that it was his initial idea.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 29 July 2022]]</ref>

==Fan videos==

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==See also==
{{FanArt}}
*[[Chris and sex]]
*[[Chris and the law]]
*[[Jail Saga]]
*[[Soul Bonding]]
*[[The Binding of Isaac‎]]
*[[Ultimate Guide to Sex and Disability]]

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{{IncestSaga}}
{{Love Quest}}

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Chris and sex

2022-08-14T20:43:35Z

Necromaster: Necrophillia

{{Honest}}
{{HealthDisclosure}}
{{Incomplete|Information regaring Chris' sexual frustration, and how he copes with it}}
[[Chris]] has a warped view of '''sexual intercourse''' (a.k.a. '''hanky-panky''' and '''romps in the hay'''<ref>Chris has used this phrase since approximately [[2018]], including in [[:File:SchuComic12-9Page29.JPG|Sonichu #12-9]], on his [[July 2018 social media posts#BronyCon thoughts|polyamorous marriage]] and on his [[Incest fallout chat leaks#Chris texts about incest with his mother|incest with his mother]].</ref>), mostly stemming from stunted sexual development, [[Borb|a sheltered upbringing]], and the [[Autism|twisted, disjointed]] [[Chris and reality|worldview]] he acquired as a result. He first developed an understanding of sex from watching softcore porn on HBO at around age 16. He describes pornographic films as "educational".<ref>[[Miyamoto Saga#Chris Sets the Record STRAIGHT]]</ref>

==Knowledge of sex==
In his mind, Chris has mastered all there is to know about sex, and now regards himself as a bit of a guru. He has said that kissing a woman is "magical and delightful... sweet and melting like ice cream or chocolate", a description he [[Things Chris has ripped off|stole]] from ''[[Sailor Moon]]''.<ref>[[Mailbag 18#He might as well be talking about how to pilot the space shuttle|Mailbag 18]]</ref> In truth, for much of the time he was presenting this advice Chris had yet to even kiss a girl.<ref name="Jackie E-mails 2">[[Jackie E-mails 2]]</ref>

What he knows about sex he's picked up from rudimentary [[high school]] [[Dating education|sex education]] or [[List of Chris's Adam & Eve purchases|pornography]]. This has engendered many false beliefs in Chris, which he sticks to religiously. Readers who brave his [[Chris Sex Logs|sex chat logs]] should immediately notice what's going wrong – Chris's fantasies are merely recreations of what he's seen in pornos, rather than plausible sexual experiences. For example, he believed that [[Kacey]] would welcome a brutal tit-fucking followed by load after load of [[navy]] to the face.<ref>[[Kacey Phone Call]]</ref>

Other examples of Chris's crude misconceptions about sex abound. He mimics female porn stars' sex positions, spreads an imaginary vagina a yard across,<ref name="JR Eyes">[[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV]]</ref> thinks that the clitoris is located on the female body where the [[wikipedia:Perineum|perineum]] is located on the male one<ref>[[September 2014 Facebook Posts#Introducing the Un-clit]]</ref> and believes that electric shocks to the vagina are pleasurable.<ref name="Cums cat">[[CWC Cums for a Cat]]</ref> He also seems to believe that a woman's vagina is higher up on the woman's body that it actually is;<ref>[[:File:SchuComicSP3P7.jpg]]</ref> this is undoubtedly due to his experience with his [[Kimmi|sex]] [[Officer Nasty|dolls]]. The "missionary cowgirl" position mentioned in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]] is a contradiction in terms. He can't even get the most basic double entendres correct, wearing a terrible [[CWC Cola|Mountain Dew]] parody shirt thinking it's an invitation for women to try and ride his broken [[penis]].<ref name="JR Eyes" /> He thinks that his [[Virgin with rage|virginity]] is a precious and sought-after treasure which women will come in droves to take (he even went so far as to use it as a bargaining chip to haggle with a prostitute), and believes that [[mass debating]] ultimately makes him better at sex.

With Chris's [[Chris and English|slippery grip on language]], he is also noticeably confused about basic sexual terminology. For example, Chris told Ivy he had a "sticky dream" about her. When Ivy asked if he meant a wet dream, he replied, "No, that's when you pee yourself, silly!"<ref>[[Ivy Q&A#Threats]]</ref> While he may have the best of intentions, his word choices unwittingly present him in a very bad light. He refuses to use common terms – either medical or slang – for sex organs, instead calling penises "[[duck]]s" and "[[pickle]]s", and vaginas and vulvae "[[china]]" or "tom-tom" out of a childish aversion borne of disgust.

In [[August 2011]], Chris said he is into female domination.<ref>[[Calling Out Jack Thaddius - Ahuviya]]</ref> (going as far as to draw Sonichu and Rosechu performing the act in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]]).

===Reproductive Biology===
{{Main|Biology#Reproductive biology}}
[[File:Female anatomy according to chris.png|thumb|A moderately detailed portrait of what Chris probably thought females looked like before meeting [[Mia Hamm]].]]

Chris's understanding on reproductive biology had primarily come from what he had seen in porn.

===Books on the Subject===

Chris had obtained a copy of the book [[Ultimate Guide to Sex and Disability]], which he had told [[Null]] about on 5 July 2021. As a result of reading this book, Chris came to believe that he could mentor people about dating and sex. Chris had especially shown this in conversations he had with [[the Suitress]], where he attempts to advise her on how to approach a potential lover when she goes off to college.<ref>[[Suitress chats#Dating Advice]]</ref> Chris had seemed to twist or misunderstand many of the passages found in this book, taking it to be a book on how to perform sex on disabled people, rather than one ''for'' disabled people.

==Moral Basis==

{{Dated}}

===Straightness===

{{main|Chris and sexuality}}

Chris's stance on sexual orientations have always been iffy at best. Prior to his transition to a Tomgirl, he has shown a fear of losing his straightness. This obsessive demand for people to "STAY STRAIGHT" has been one of the first noted and exploited aspects of Chris since his discovery. Many trolls had jokingly declared this as an indicator of him repressing his sexuality in some fashion, only for it to end up being the case in the long run.

===Religion===
[[Image:DatingEducation.jpg|thumb|250px|69ing? Intercourse? ''Really''? In a ''children's'' comic? Because they should know all about this stuff.]]
{{quote|You have heard that it was said by them of old time, You shall not commit adultery: but I say to you, that whosoever looks on a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart.|Matthew 5:27-28}}

Sex was at one point viewed, through Chris's eyes, by the Bible – or rather, by his religion, as Chris's Biblical knowledge is extremely poor. Chris was very strict on keeping to the word of God when male homosexuality is the topic, vehemently stating that he ''hates'' homos, but with no hesitation views lesbian porn and approves of it [[Mass debating|masturbatorily]]<ref>[[CWC's Second Message]]</ref>, and as of 2014, seemed to be adopting a more progressive view of even gay men and their rights (albeit begrudgingly). In 2015 Chris made a video lamenting his "past" homophobia and clarifying that he apparently now has great liking and admiration for male homosexuality, [[Retroactive continuity|retconning]] the viscous homophobic tirade of [[Sonichu 10]] into a bizarre zombie apocalypse, implying that he realizes religion is not an excuse for discrimination. Another violation of his Christian morals is the fact that he planned on losing his virginity on the [[Third date|third or fourth date]] with his true sweetheart (read: first girl who will last three dates with Chris). This is, of course, blatant violation of the Christian value of marriage before sex.

The Bible also frowns upon [[Nudes|pornographers]], of which he is very guilty and holds no apparent [[Chris and remorse|remorse]]. These double standards cause many trolls to despise him, seeing as he selectively chooses what to denigrate and what is OK in his own personal dogma, although to be fair, the same is true of many Christians anyway.

Despite people pointing out these contradictions, even quoting passages of the Bible, he will deny it. This is most likely because he goes to [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|a very liberal church]], so any question about premarital sex is probably interpreted quite liberally, and Chris believes that his church and ''only'' his church defines the entirety of religious morality - as it applies to him, anyway. When Chris asks Rocky about passages quoted to him by [[trolls]], she only fuels his à la carte Christianity by saying things like sex before marriage is okay as long as the couple is in love, which contradicts Christian doctrine.<ref>[[Mumble 8]]</ref> In summary, Chris picked and chose what parts of Christian doctrine suit his own prejudices, and disregards the ones that would interfere with his [[Love Quest]].

===Sexism===

Chris seems to consider a female sexual partner as a rubber stamp over his (alleged) sexual orientation. Flying in the face of any moral system he's ever held, he announced his desire to upload on the Internet a video of his first full sexual intercourse, even if his hypothetical partner refused to consent to it.<ref>[[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence#The Introduction Image Space is NOT Ad Space (CCS)]]</ref> After further prodding, he added that he would simply hide the camera, record the event without her consent and blur her face before making the video public.<ref>[[Mailbag 31#In which Chris crosses yet another line]]</ref> In [[CCWC's Final Warning to the Second CWC]], Chris indicated that if a woman accused him of being gay in person, he would sexually assault them by demanding they submit to a kiss and allow him to videotape the act, possibly as a way of proving his straightness.

For Chris, as stated above, [[Women's rights|a woman is just a living, sentient sex-toy]], existing only to validate him as a heterosexual. As long as they're straight and younger than him, of course.

==Chris in the act==
[[Image:JULAY-small.gif|frame|right|Christian [[For Julie's Eyes Only|professing his love]] for "[[BlueSpike|Julie]]".]]
Leaked tapes of Chris's audio sex with [[Julie]], and the infamous sex tape with Kimmi shed light on Chris as he acts out on his fantasies. In particular, the sex tape shows how Chris assumes ''female'' positions, notably riding on top of Kimmi in a scene straight out of a porno. It seems that Chris's entirety of knowledge about sexual relationships stems from ignoring the [[JERKS|men]] in pornography (due to fear of becoming a [[homo]]).

However, it should be noted that in most of Chris's Rule 34 drawings the characters do tend to assume positions which are fitting for their gender, including Chris.<ref>For examples, see the [[Sonichu 8#The uncensored scenes|uncensored panels]] from Sonichu 8, [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack]], [[CWCRockin4Way.jpg]], the [[Giant Penis Comic]] and [[Jackie E-mails 14]].</ref> It might be that Chris adopts female positions not so much due to ignorance regarding sex, but more because of [[Tomgirl pictures|his identification with the opposite gender]].

Chris's view of cunnilingus, put on display in [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV]], involves slobbering all over a woman's vagina. Despite all his knowledge of porn, he fails to see how cunnilingus is more than just slobbering, but proper tongue action to stimulate the clitoris.

In the leaked media, Chris displays that he may have some issues with delayed orgasm. This can either be physiological (bent duck, [[Obesity|being overweight]], lack of endurance) or psychological in nature (performance anxiety, high expectations, intrusive homoerotic thoughts, subconscious guilt about sex), or a combination thereof.

In the 2018 [[All Star]] video, Chris is seen tugging his [[duck]] along to the song. He remains flaccid the entire time; his inability to get an erection is possibly a side effect of [[Transgender|HRT]]. If this is true, Chris will certainly not be getting any hanky-panky in the future.

During his time losing his virginity to a [[Mia Hamm| prostitute]] its worth noting that he first received a blowjob, than demanded cowgirl before possible missionary later; [[Obesity| but luckily for her]] he couldn't last very long and finished just after she rid him for a bit; this is important as it points to 2 big problems with Chris; first his lack of self control due to him [[Navy| finishing]] so quickly, second is that he ordered possibly the laziest sex position in the book, with Mia doing pretty much all of the physical exercise with Chris being a lazy fuck.

Chris's second sexual partner in his life was none other than his own [[Barb|mom]], the exact details of the [[Affair with Mother|incestuous affair]] is a bit vague but needless to say every act described by Chris is extremely disturbing and not for the faint of heart.

===Contraceptives===

{{quote|Confidentially, I wear a condom during the second half when I masturbate; I use Trojan or LIfestyles brand (Trojan mostly)

And I used condoms when I fooled with the [[Officer Nasty|L.D.s]] as well.|Chris, [[Jackie E-mails 1]]}}

Condoms, or as Chris has called them "'''raincoats'''", are thin latex coverings worn over a man's penis for the purpose of birth control. However, Chris seemed to understand the condom as more of a symbol for promoting safe premarital sex rather than as a contraceptive. Aside from promoting safe sex and justifying premarital sex, Chris has also drawn his male Sonichu characters with condoms in order to censor their penises. Chris has stated that before his third date with [[Blanca]], he'd wear a condom for the first two times they've had sex, only to have non-protected sex by the third date, showing that he also believed that condoms serve more as some kind of gateway to pregnancy. Chris had a box of chocolate-flavored condoms that he purchased to be prepared for his first time. Chris had given a few different dates for when they expired; some time in 2010 <ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Chris_Sex_Logs#Condoms</ref> and January 2013.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/IRC_(27_December_2008)</ref>

Chris reportedly also wore a condom that was flavored like green apple while engaging in sex with Mia Hamm.<ref>[[July 2020 social media posts]]</ref>. Its not entirely clear whether the condom was entirely successful or not due to him mentioning that a "Smidge" of Navy had leaked out after their first round together, meaning he either kept them in his pocket far too long, the condom didn't fit entirely properly around his [[Duck]], he became flaccid way faster than he should have, or he's an idiot who mistook a smear of lube or vaginal discharge for semen; knowing Chris any of these [[Chris and negligence| explanations]] [[Duck| are]] [[Health| equally]] [[Slow in the minds| possible]]. For those wondering however, it's probably safe to assume [[Mia Hamm]] won't be harboring [[Crystal]] any time soon; even by some non-existent chance he managed to get her pregnant, she would have likely been on the pill anyway.

Chris would later reveal to [[Null]] that he was using a condom while having sex with his "over 50 girlfriend", who was later discovered to be [[Barb]]. While ploughing a woman like Barb would cause anyone to instinctively wear the thickest condom available, then get themselves tested a few times over just in case (all of which Chris did); realistically there wasn't much reason to do so since the risk of STD and pregnancy was non-existent since both were [[Health|(at least where STIs were concerned)]] clean and both were completely infertile.

== Sexual Frustration ==

Chris has had a yearning to have a girl to have sex with since the start of his [[Love Quest]] in 2003.

Throughout the first half of [[2021]], Chris' search for a sweetheart had resumed. Chris has expressed great sexual frustration, yearning for a physical girl to have sex with over his [[polyamorous marriage|ficticious sweethearts]]. According to [[Kyle]], at some point in [[February 2021]] Chris expressed interest in wanting to get a hooker,<ref name=feb21hooker>[[The Place chats (March 2021)#Chris wanted a hooker]]</ref> something which Chris was once not in favor of.

In [[March 2021]], following a masturbation session, Chris had a conversation with the [[Watchmen]], in which he discussed how, despite not disliking or disapproving of the act of masturbation, he felt that he was [[Gender dysphoria|born the wrong gender]].<ref>[[Masturbation discussions#16 March 2021]]</ref> In a [[May 2021]] conversation, he claimed that over the years, he would continually consume pornography and masturbate to get "the hard-on". He expressed how until recently, he felt that he had not fully explored his sexuality, nor any other means to stimulate himself, and even then claims to still overthink the process of [[List of things Chris has shoved up his ass|inserting a dildo or vibrator up his ass]]. <ref>[[Masturbation discussions#18 May 2021]]</ref>

==Means of Coping with Sexual Frustration==

=== Masturbation and Porn Consumption ===

{{Main|Mass Debating}}

Chris has had a history of masturbating, starting when he discovered he could stimulate his penis by rubbing it against a washcloth when he was 15. In 2009, he made use of a washbasin in the kitchen of his house while performing the act, and had claimed in the [[Ivy Q&A]] that he made use of a pillow that he'd fold in half, treating it as a mastrubation tool. Since then, masturbation has been an outlet for Chris's sexual frustration.

In a [[February 2021]] conversion with [[The Watchmen]], Chris said "Masturbation takes Fifteen LONG, Tiring and Annoying Minutes, with my body, regardless of whatever method or tool utilized. And it has literally been that long in unenjoyable time since I first rubbed one out while my body was 15. And that was Looooong before I ever started on HRT in 2016. So, not only is masturbation out of the question, it's more misery-inducing."<ref>[[Masturbation discussions#27 February 2021]]</ref>

=== Drawing Porn ===

{{quote|As for the drawing itself, I've realized that it was done not only out of inspired fantasy, angst against E.D., and love for you, but also a major release for my crazy, mixed-up hormones. If I didn't have the foresight to put my pent-up frustrations and feelings in the form of something, I might have become an abusive maniac, so thank god for allowing me to release my bottled up frustrations in a more positive, yet not so "Politically Correct", and not physically hurting others, method.|Chris on how he might have approached Megan had he not drawn [[SheCameForCWC.jpg]]<ref>[[Megan Emails, 2008#Chris continues bothering her about ED]]</ref>}}

Chris has on more than one ocassion drawn pornography of his own in order to release sexual tension. Chris claimed to [[Megan Schroeder]] that he had in part created the controversial drawing [[SheCameForCWC.jpg]] because he felt that doing so would inhibit him from sexually advancing on Megan, as he had feelings for her, and would have become an "abusive maniac" had he not created the drawing. The fact that Chris had decided to use what was essentially a product of his own pent-up sexual frustration as a means of attempting to get his Encyclopedia Dramatica page down only seemed to leave a much more bitter taste in Megan's mouth after announcing this.

During the period when Chris became much more sexually frustrated in 2021, he displayed this more openly towards friends, and even on his social media. He sent a picture of his Chris Chan Sonichu persona wearing a [[negligee]] while giving a seductive look to [[The WCT]], and talked to him about how arousing it is to wear one.

=== Sex Toys ===

Chris has made numberable purchases for sex toys.

Chris has owned a number of sex dolls.

=== Relationships with OCs ===

For a time, partly due to influence from the [[Idea Guys]], Chris has temporarily given up on his search for a sweetheart in pursuit for being in relationships with fictional characters instead.

=== Wet Dreams ===

Chris has also had his share of wet [[dreams]], particularly whenever he had held strong feelings for his flavor of the week. The first of these wet dreams was of [[PandaHalo]], where he dreamed about the both of them getting naked, having sex, and then Chris finally climaxing. Chris also had a dream where he was in a labyrinth filled with water, where he met a woman and had sex with her, Chris recreated the dream in a Flipnote animation. The strangest of these was of one where Chris claims that he "almost had sex" with the Sonic character Sally Acorn, which had left him sexually frustrated afterwards. Chris talks about another wet dream he had two months later, this time of the ''Sonic X'' character Chris Thorndyke aged-up and "handsome". Chris also expresses the sexual frustration he felt after waking up from this dream too.<ref>[[MKR DMs]]</ref>

=== Sex with Mother ===

It has been joked and speculated by trolls, christorians, and observers alike that Chris has much more iminent feelings with [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] than he let on.

==Sexual Deviance==

Chris's skewed basis of his understanding of sex leads him to exhibiting several instances of sexual deviance.

===Innappropriate Interactions with Women===

To say the least, Chris's social interactions hinder his ability to understand sex etiquette.

===Pedophilia and Age Disparity===
{{main|Pedofork}}
{{Wise|he is a pedophile.}}

Pedophilia has always been a touchy subject in regards to Chris. Chris had at first attempted to deny all claims that he was a pedophile, even creating a new word "pedofork", as a sort of comeback to those who refered to him as such, being created solely to make the word rhyme in "I'm not a pedofork, you dorks". Chris has tried to retain this image by removing any references that may be interpreted as him being a pedophile in his Sonichu comics. Most infamously, Chris had characters in [[Sonichu 8]] make comments about "dumb laws" when [[Zapina Rosechu]], who is 14 years old, asks to participate in stripping for Women's Rights.

At a glance, Chris seems to adhere to the age of consent, once advertising on his [[Attraction Sign|Attraction Signs]] that he would only date someone of legal age. Chris however does not seem to understand or care about how creepy it is for him to be attracted to women that are half his age, and seems to see it as yet another barrier for his Love Quest. Chris has cat-called an artist whom he believed to be "entering young adulthood", has made sexual remarks towards [[Bella]]; despite her having no interest in Chris, and has shown arousal when [[the Suitress]] exposed herself to him.

===Necrophillia===

While Chris himself has never engaged in sex with a dead body, Chris has [[Jail Letter - 29 July 2022|recently]] been referring to barb as a zombie like husk since even before they began engaging in [[Affair with Mother| their affair]] and that her soul has already moved on to her rosechu form in C-197; complaining that her lifeless body was still clinging to life and preventing him from going back home. Meaning that Chris is at least partially comfortable with the idea of having sex with his dead mother.

In another disturbing instant, Chris recorded [[It's not that cold]] where he proceeds to imitate buffalo bill and pretends to get inside his dead dog [[Patti]], while not engaging in sex with her he does take a bizarre sexual pleasure in wearing her corpse (or at least pretending to since he was too lazy to actually dig her up).

===Bestiality===
{{quote|I can imagine myself doing it with a [[Patti-chan|collie]] at least. you know, like Lassie.|Chris to [[PandaHalo]]<ref name="collie">[[IRC (27 December 2008)]]</ref>}}
[[File:PattiLuv.jpg|thumb|Run, Patti, run!]]
[[File:Super-mode.jpg|thumb|left|90px|Chris, sporting a [[ECV 00002‎|homemade fursuit]].]]

In [[December 2008]], Chris told [[PandaHalo]] he would be willing to have sex with a female dog for her.<ref name="collie" /> However, in his [[Chris-chan Discusses...‎|interview with ScrewAttackEurope]], Chris says he's against bestiality, then hoists himself by his own petard by claiming that Sonichu & co. are not "half-humans" but "all-animals" with human form; so technically this isn't bestiality, as they're animals having sex with each other.

Chris suggested that Brian from ''[[Family Guy]]'' be paired up with "any sexy breed" of dog.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20161007175309/http://archive.sonichu.com:80/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Family_Guy The Family Guy article on CWCipedia]</ref>

In [[The Red-Maned Deer]], Chris recites a poem he wrote about having sex with a deer, but at the end of it states, "This was, in fact, NOT an act of bestiality. For you see, the Red-Maned Deer I have been communicating with and tracking, is really...my lo-my womanly sweetheart, named [[Jacklyn Romy]]."<ref>[[The Red-Maned Deer]]</ref> The fact that the deer is Jackie is obvious, but in spite of this he explicitly stated that it was her at the end.

In a photo of the [[Rental House]] from June 2014, the Chandler minivan bears a bumper sticker reading "I Sleep with Dogs".<ref>[[:File:Chandler Cars 1600w.jpg]]</ref> What exactly this means is yet to be determined.

====Is Chris a furry?====
{{Wise|he is a furry.}}

{{quote|I am half-Sonichu and half-Pokemon, thus making me a "furry".|Chris, May 2018, during the aftermath of the [[Idea Guys]] saga.<ref>https://tweetsave.com/cwcsonichu/status/997320832040005634</ref>}}

Whether Chris could actually be considered a furry was debated for a long time.<ref>From [[Sarah May Skype Logs#Chris tries to leave|the Sarah May Skype Logs]]: [7:17:25] '''Sarah May''': Did you feel sexually aroused when you drew them? [7:17:34] '''Christopher C.W.C.''': a bit.</ref> There are some things that point in that direction. Chris certainly gets aroused by provocative drawings of anthropomorphic animals (at least when they are [[Sonic]] characters), and he has drawn unsolicited porn of his own Sonic recolors. [[Chris-chan Sonichu]] is in many ways similar to a fursona, and Chris even role-played the character while cybering with [[Julie]].<ref name="Cums cat" /> Finally, in the [[Giant Penis Comic]], Chris and [[Ivy]] both transform into anthropomorphic animals during the act of sex. On the other hand, [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] noted that Chris was prejudiced against a male furry who patronized [[The GAMe PLACe]] because he happened to be [[gay]].<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Racism and homophobia]]</ref> Given the high proportion of gay and bisexual men in the furry fandom, Classic Chris would almost certainly have been uncomfortable at any kind of furry gathering.

In [[May 2018]], under the influence of the [[Idea Guys]], Chris declared himself a furry.<ref>[[May_2018_social_media_posts#Michael_Hirtes_BTFO]]</ref> The Idea Guys also [[brainwashed]] him into believing he is in a [[polyamorous marriage]] with his anthropomorphic [[imaginary friends]] [[Magi-Chan]] and [[Cryzel]], and Chris believes he has had sexual relations with these imaginary friends.<ref>[[July 2018 social media posts#BronyCon thoughts]]</ref>

Also of note is that in [[July 2020|mid-2020]], he binge-watched the [[Netflix]] anime ''BNA: Brand New Animal'', commenting it was "very good" but said nothing further than that.<ref>[[July_2020_social_media_posts#Animu]]</ref>

While Chris may loosely qualify as a furry due to his obsession with anthropomorphic [[Electric Hedgehog Pokemon]] and [[My Little Pony|ponies]], he has never shown an interest in the broader furry community.

===Oedipus Complex===
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==Prostitution==
[[Image:Virginbreaker.png|thumb|Chris's leaked [[Facebook]] announcement that he had lost his virginity. Initially igniting a firestorm of controversy, Chris himself let it slip that she was found "somewhere on the backpage" soon after.]]

Given how badly Chris wanted to lose his virginity, many observers have wondered why he didn't immediately spend some of his [[tugboat]] on a prostitute. [[Mumble 4]], from [[February 2009]], answered that question for a while. There, Chris explained that paying for sex would render the act "meaningless," and he was – in a rare display of common sense – afraid of contracting a sexually transmitted disease.

Needs must as the devil drives, though. While being blackmailed by [[Jack Thaddeus]] in the summer of [[2009]], Chris attempted to solicit the services of a Craigslist prostitute to fuck on camera so he could recover his hacked [[PlayStation Network]] accounts. After describing his personal problems to the prostitute, she hung up on him. Chris was apparently trying to get free sex from the hooker with long, rambling stories about his horrible life to try and gain sympathy. He was genuinely shocked when she didn't offer to fuck him out of pity, unaware that prostitutes, by definition, only have sex with men for money.

Previously, in [[March 2009]], [[Bryan Bash]] had sent a trio of prostitutes to [[14 Branchland Court|Chris's house]] so he would no longer be a virgin with rage. [[Hooker incident|Hilarity ensued]].

By the beginning of [[2010]], Chris's views on prostitution had further softened. According to his [[Vivian Gee E-mails 2|conversations with Vivian Gee]], around the turn of the year he was attempting to save $100 out of his monthly budget to buy himself a whore for his 28th [[birthday]]. This, presumably, was the "hundred dollars for a damn hooker" he referred to when [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|begging the Wallflower for sex]] on YouTube in [[March 2010]].

Between [[April 2010|April]] and [[July 2010]], under the name of [[Carlos Chantor]], Chris tried to offer himself up as a male escort. He described himself as "[[Chris and reality|Experienced for Her Pleasure]]", with an [[obesity|average]] body type.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 6]]</ref>

Later, under the guise of his troll persona [[JenkinsJinkies]], Chris attempted to acquire the contact details of the hookers Brian Bash had previously hired. While it is possible that Chris merely wished to make his disguise more convincing by implying that 14 year old Jenkins wished to hire prostitutes, it seems far more likely that Chris actually was considering hiring Brian's girls.

In [[April 2012]] a [[Facebook]] status leaked in which Chris announced that he was no longer a virgin. Suspicion arose that this was due to the help of a hooker. Chris provided further evidence suggesting that [[Mia Hamm|the girl]] was a prostitute on 1 [[May 2012|May]] when he wrote in a [[Facebook#Hey, Trollies|Facebook note]] that his virgin breaker can be found "somewhere on the [[Wikipedia:Backpage|backpage]]", a website known for featuring sex service ads.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20210206132219/https://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/19/opinion/kristof-not-quite-a-teen-yet-sold-for-sex.html?_r=1]</ref> On 28/29 June 2014 Chris openly admitted that his first time was with a prostitute, and that he had sex with her twice.<ref>[[Other documents#Chris's wingman]]</ref>

In [[June 2016]], Chris himself made [[Women Only Need Apply - No STD's|another attempt]] to enter the prostitution business, now as a [[Tomgirl|trans woman]], going by the name "Stephanie Bustcakes". Predictably, Chris was unable to find any "women of any orientation" who were interested in paying him $100 to have sex either "one way or the lesbian way", and the Stephanie Bustcakes persona has not yet reappeared.

[[File:ChrisChanSexForMoney.png|thumb|200px]]
On 24 April 2018, while under the influence of the [[Idea Guys]], who had allegedly been extorting him out of thousands of dollars, Chris announced:<ref>[[April 2018 social media posts#Will provide house tour and suck dicks for money]]</ref>

{{quotebox|Anyone living locally to me in Virginia, or visiting in Charlottesville, I’ll give y’all BJs for money too. Serious.}}

A fan on Twitter messaged him about it. In their conversation, Chris said:<ref name=price>[[:File:NAME YOUR PRICE!!.jpeg]]</ref>

{{quotebox|Consider me a beginner with experience blowing [[Cryzel and Magi-Chan|my loving boyfriend]], willing to learn and adapt further. $50 for that BJ from this celeb; if he wants butt sex, that will be $100. Cash only.}}

Chris told [[CWCProtectSquad]] member Tings Tingz that he was indeed serious about prostituting himself, had several offers, but had not taken on any customers. When asked if he would consider, Chris responded, "a little from Column 'A' and the latter from Column 'B'".<ref>[[Tings Tingz DMs#Prostitution post]]</ref>

After the [[Guard Dogs]] rescued Chris from the Idea Guys' influence, he reversed course and disavowed the prostitution messages on 7 May 2018, saying he had been coerced.<ref>https://tweetsave.com/cwcsonichu/status/993693423084318720</ref> He went further on 25 May, saying he had been forced to write such things, and implied the Idea Guys had been behind it.<ref>[[May 2018 social media posts#Calling out the Idea Guys]]</ref>

According to [[Kyle]], in [[February 2021]], Chris wanted a hooker and asked Kyle to ask [[Null]] to get him one.<ref name=feb21hooker></ref>

==Incest==
{{See also|Affair with Mother}}
{{Split Off}}
{{Quote|I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with [[Barbara Chandler|my mother]].|Chris, 2016}}

[[File:CWCSonichu Rule34.jpeg|thumb|Chris having sex with his "son," Sonichu, in order to fulfill a prophecy to bring Crystal into the world.]]

Chris has long been suspected of having unnatural feelings about [[sex]] and family.

In [[2007]], Chris attempted to shock [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] into submission by posting his own [[Rule 34]] drawings, including one of himself [[Shecameforcwc.jpg|fingerbanging a nude brunette woman]]. ED users immediately concluded this was Crystal, Chris's imaginary twin sister in the comics. This charge infuriated Chris and therefore became the conventional wisdom. By the time Chris successfully convinced anyone that it was really [[Megan Schroeder]] in the drawing, the notion that Chris wants to bang his imaginary twin sister had already stuck.

[[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|Crystal]], Chris's imaginary twin sister, appeared as a [[:image:153-GirlfriendsGift.jpg|"girlfriend" card]] he made for ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'', and her attractiveness and desirability are brought up several times in the [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'']] comics well after being established as Chris's twin. Chris has shown complete ignorance in matters incestuous before; his [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] are all related (despite their type and appearance differences, they all come from [[homos|Sonic and the same male Pikachu]] – apart from that fact, they were all created by Chris and acknowledge him as such – Sonichu and Rosechu calling him father), but many of them are paired off with one another (notably Sonichu/Rosechu, Bubbles/Blake, and Magi/Silvana – Simonla was technically made by someone else), banging and some even [[Sonichu and Rosechu's children|having]] [[Sandy Rosechu|kids]]. Chris's own comic children are a form of incest – as Chris impregnated himself with his navy. Chris shrugs off [[Autism|all medical/science facts]] and lists the two as perfectly healthy and Autism Free.

Chris first expounded his views on incest to the internet on 31 [[January 2009]] during the [[Mumble 1|first Mumble chat]], when it was revealed that he did not fully understood the meaning of the word "incest". While he showed aversion toward incest in the chat, his condemnation of it was lukewarm, saying that he would only "definitely discourage that" and that lesbian incest is "possibly OK" due to no reproduction being involved. Compare this to his statements about male homosexuality from the same chat ("I hate homo males [...] I'd sooner have a [[Tomgirl Saga|sex change]] before I would ever turn into a homo") or to his statements about male homosexuality from earlier that month, saying that he would make it a crime and force its practitioners into having sex with members of the opposite gender.<ref>[[IRC (02 January 2009)]]</ref>

A year later, Chris's views became staunch. When a correspondent in the [[Mailbag]] pointed out that Chris's state allows cousin marriage but not same-sex marriage, Chris furiously denied it and wrote, "Cousin-Marriage is just as Terrible and Unholy as MARRYING YOUR OWN MOTHER OR FATHER!"<ref>[[Common Questions#5 January 2010]]</ref> When another correspondent responded to Chris by saying that he is happily married to his cousin and that their marriage is indeed legal in Virginia, Chris answered him by saying he was destined to hell for his relationship,<ref>[[Mailbag 34#Good luck in hell]]</ref> not realizing that incest is shown in a positive light in [[Chris and religion|the Bible]]. When the subject came up again in the next mailbag, Chris said that sexual relations between cousins are just as wrong as incest between parents and their children or between siblings, and that all those relationships were condemned in the "same part" of the Bible,<ref>[[Mailbag 35#I think he wanted a specific verse]]</ref> which is not actually true.<ref> [https://web.archive.org/web/20051223102404/http://www.cousincouples.com/?page=religion]</ref> In [[February 2010]], Chris notably did not react to [[:File:Fkinglie.png|an extremely NSFW ad of himself]] on the [[CWCipedia]] depicting himself fingering Barb [[SheCameForCWC.jpg|like he did with a former friend in a certain illustration]], despite reacting to [[I am Alive|an ad claiming that he was dead]].

During the [[Idea Guy]] saga, the troll convinced Chris that [[Magi-Chan]] foretold of a prophecy in which [[Crystal]] would be born by Chris mating with Sonichu. He also informed Chris that if this was drawn, he wouldn't have to do it in real life. Chris complied<ref>https://archive.md/AL1PT</ref>. During the nonsensical [[Sonichu 13| issue 13]] of Sonichu incest is unsurprisingly everywhere, from [[Chris Chan Sonichu]] getting married to [[Magichan]] to Chris and Sonichu raping each other.

To the [[Watchmen]], Chris chatted about how he was upset over implications of incest in the ''Sonichu'' family, stating that he had written a piece to dispute the "ugh, Incest bullshit."<ref>[[Undated Watchmen leaks#Ugh, Incest]]</ref>

In a Facebook post from [[January 2020]], Chris reiterated his opposition to incest, writing "I, personally, seriously disapprove of incest and would never practice it at all" and "The Bottom Line is: Incest is Never 'Wincest' (Epic UGH!)".<ref>[[January 2020 social media posts#Incest is not wincest]]</ref>

===Dreams of sex with Barb===
On 10 August 2016, Chris posted a [[Facebook statuses|response]] to a mother-son couple who were arrested for incest. He admitted to "[having] dreams of having sex with my mother" but "Never acting on them ever." Among other things, he also implied that incest "offers a chance for better teaching the child how to better satisfy their eventual partner(s)." All this is in stark contrast to his earlier condemnation of incest, which raises the question of whether Chris was being TRUE and HONEST but changed his opinion later thanks to his growing degeneracy, or the likelier possibility it was [[Hypocrisy|all for show]].

{{quotebox|I have a few things to say in response to this article. Firstly, the child was over 18, and surely the mother has talked it out with him beforehand. The child might have had social problems, or a situation where socializing or going out to socialize with other people, was a Greater Difficulty. Financial situation to prevent paying someone else to come over and help out in the situation. Moreover, it was the lifelong affections between parent and child. Also, the mother probably could not bear any ovum for children anymore.
Anyhow, who among Everyone in this world has not had a dream of having sex with one of their parents? Never acting on them ever, I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother.
Although incest is quite controversial topic, but there are circumstances where there would be not so much harm as one may think, feel or believe. The child is over 18; the mother is unable to have any more children at the time; birth control and protection is available and can be used (in a case of father/daughter, birth control Definitely should be used anyhow). Also, consider if the child is adopted; not as much biological.
Plus, this offers a chance for better teaching the child how to better satisfy their eventual partner(s). The schools can only teach from books; not so much practice. And Nobody wants to end up being a 20 or 30-plus year old Virgin. I know; That is a Huge, Enduring Pain.
Unless the sex act was abusive, hurtful, or Would result in an unwanted birth of a physical or mental challenged child, I would not judge or persecute the parent and child. I would encourage the child to socialize more; maybe make it easier for the child to meet more people his/her age.
Do Not send the mother and son to jail!}}

On 13 September 2019, while [[Spirit possession|role-playing]] as Magi-Chan, Chris would describe Barb as a "guilty pleasure waifu."<ref>[[September 2019 social media posts#Barbara was more of a "guilty pleasure" waifu]]</ref>

===Actual sex with Barb===

While the prospect of Chris having sex with Barb was joked about for many years, most people did not believe Chris would actually go through with it. Before the [[Incest call]] was leaked, there were numerous warning signs of what was to come, mainly being the fact Barb would force Chris to spoon her in bed for many years, and telling Mia Hamm that the sexual massage he gave her was the same that he gave his mother. Their actions around each other have indicated a history of incestuous interest, however many just assumed that this was a combination of Chris's [[autism]] making him act inappropriately and Barb's infamously controlling behaviour.

After the incest calls were leaked it was revealed that Chris had been engaging in regular sex with Barb every 3 nights or so for ''months''. His "seduction" methods included giving her full body massages while making attempts to finger her, kissing her on the lips with Barb refusing to open her mouth and Chris making "Psychic connections" with her before, during and after their romps in the hay.

It's also noteworthy that Chris refers to Barb as "Barbie Chan" almost exclusively now; whether this has something to do with her supposed anime fanfiction characteristics, a bizarre pet name or Chris trying to subconsciously distance himself from their familial bonds is unknown.

==Rape==
{{Protip|It has not been officially proven that Chris has raped his mother, though he also alludes to Barb being "zombie-like" months before he started his affair with her in jail letters.}}

Chris was very apathetic about the idea of consent, and to a larger extent, the act of rape. When [[PandaHalo]] told him she was raped by [[Clyde Cash]], he reacted nonchalantly. He even thought it would be appropriate for Panda to ''move in'' with her rapist ([[Chris and religion|which is technically in-line with certain archaic Christian principles]]), whom he called a "good man" for regretting the rape and for being willing to take care of the ensuing child.<ref>[[IRC (21 January 2009)]]</ref> Later on, long after the PandaHalo saga was over, he would wish her and her rapist a happy marriage.<ref>[[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)#Sarah Cassandra McKenzie, A.K.A. PandaHalo]]</ref> In [[iPods Down and Listen Up]], he didn't seem to realize that his improvised lyrics detailed a sexual act that would almost certainly be construed by others as rape. Chris eventually compared his ordeals with the trolls, particularly during the [[Christorical eras|Classic Era]] to rape in his Facebook posts. (Since [[BlueSpike]]'s [[Julie Reveals Herself|most infamous incident]] involved an act that could be described as sexual abuse in front of several people, this is admittedly a fitting description.)

As far as ''Chris'' being a potential rapist is concerned, the situation was more complicated. For starters, as explained earlier, he admitted that he drew [[ShecameforCWC.JPG]] to prevent himself from acting on his sexual impulses against [[Megan Schroeder]], who had previously scolded him for inappropriately touching her. During a particularly [[IRC (23 July 2009)|disturbing chat]], he ([[:File:BillRiley.jpg|incognito]]) suggested that the trolls try to convince him to rape [[Rocky Shoemaker]]. He also evidently saw no issue with rape by fraud (essentially having sex with someone while tricking them into believing you're somebody else, meaning they didn't consent with you) as seen with his comic book counterpart when he travels forwards in time to have sex with his future wife [[Lovely Weather]] in the guise of being his future self [[Transgender|(whom is definitely a different person in the future)]]. During the [[Kacey Calls]], he attempted unsuccessfully to lure her to his place in the guise of being [[Liquid Chris]], again seeing absolutely nothing wrong with that.

In all likelihood, though, these parts of his behavior are most likely explained by the keys to understanding his behavior overall: his ignorance about the world and his persecution complex causes him to be quite [[naïve]] about how bad rape actually is. With the Rocky situation above, he likely said that as part of an odd, roundabout scheme to get the trolls arrested, but it's still pretty fucked up that he'd even suggest something like this, let alone tell her about it after.

Chris has a surprisingly mature moral opinion on the subject of abortion in cases of rape; in one of the [[Kacey Calls]], he states he believes that abortion in these cases should be the choice of the victim only and that they should not be pressured by others in their decision.

Despite joking about how uncomfortably close he was to his own mother, few actually believed that Chris had it in him to commit an act of rape. For instance, he tried to kiss [[Emily]] and gave up when she said no,<ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#A precious farewell (1:29:35–1:31:10)]]</ref> showing that he does understand the importance of consent... Or at least, he ''used'' to. Unfortunately, it seems that as of 2014, he has decided that he won't take "no" for an answer, and basically ''molested'' [[Catherine#The Date|Catherine during their second outing]] by hugging her and burying his head in her breasts even after she flatly told him not to. This gets even more disturbing when you consider [[Catherine E-mails#It IS Your Fault!|this e-mail]], where Chris outright says that he's [[Chris and his Ego|"entitled to a relationship"]]. Also not helping matters was Chris kissing multiple guests who posed with him at the [[TooManyGames]] convention regardless of consent, which ultimately got him kicked out.

Furthermore, it was argued that Chris didn't have a history of violence conducive to attempting sexual assault. Aside from his [[Death threats#Likelihood of Acting Out on Death Threats|habit of dishing out threats he can't possibly carry out]], [[28 October 2011|hitting Michael Snyder with a car]], and [[26 December 2014|macing a manager in the chest]], Chris is physically [[Chris and health|very weak and unfit]], and simply could not overpower an able-bodied person – the only outcome of him attempting it would be a swift knee to the [[duck]] followed by a rousing round of [[Kick the Autistic|America's favorite game]]. However, given Catherine's experience with Chris during their outing (in her words, she was taken by surprise and couldn't react to it), it was encouraged that women should exercise caution around him.

Interestingly, Chris details in [[Announcement 06292016]] that he wants all men to stay an arm's length distance away from him. Along with showing the insecurities he possesses concerning men, Chris seems to think that he is [[Chris and his ego|an attractive enough]] [[Transgender|transwoman]] for [[Jacob Sockness|a man]] to consider raping him.

Questions of whether or not Chris was capable of rape have been discussed previously among observers, but the situation became much more complicated in [[2021]] following Chris's [[Affair with Mother|incest]] with [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]], which has not been proven to be consensual or non-consensual despite circumstantial evidence pointing toward the latter. In light of the information revealed through the [[Incest call]] and other outlets from around the same time, it's unclear whether or not Barb agreed to have sex with her son or if he forced himself onto her, and as such, it is not clear if Chris is actually a rapist. Chris noted that Barb appeared to be "partially confused" during certain sexual encounters, which fueled longtime speculation she could have a degenerative mental disease, which would thus make her unable to consent.

For what it's worth, Chris mentioned that Barb made the first move, which would be consistent with certain inappropriate behavior that she got Chris to do earlier in life (such as asking him to spoon with her). As there is little context as to what happened during the incestuous affair, [[List of Chris's lies|as Chris is known for being an unreliable source of information]], and as Barb has not spoken about the subject, it cannot clearly be confirmed to be rape without a proper criminal investigation. Chris has also not been charged with rape despite spending months in jail, awaiting his trial for the incest charge. With Barb being declared mentally competent enough to live on her own in 14 Branchland Court, it is unlikely that rape charges will be pursued without her testimony, and even then, that would only happen if she decides to throw Chris under the bus. In the event that the affair was consensual, Barb would also most likely want to avoid incriminating herself, as she herself could face a charges if she was a willing participant.

==See also==
* [[Affair with Mother]]
* [[China]]
* [[Chris and his Ego]]
* [[Chris and sexuality]]
* [[Chris Sex Logs]]
* [[Duck]]
* [[Homos]]
* [[List of Chris's Adam & Eve purchases]]
* [[Mass debating]]
* [[Naive]]
* [[Pickle]]
* [[Biology#Reproductive biology|Reproductive Biology]]
* [[Semen]]
* [[ShecameforCWC.JPG]]
* [[Women's rights]]

== References ==
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Jail Saga

2022-08-07T00:06:12Z

Necromaster: why chris is completely fucked

:''This article primarily covers what is known regarding the Jail Saga stemming from Chris's [[Affair with Mother|affair with his mother]]. For answers to frequently asked questions regarding Chris's sentence in jail, see [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/jail-state-hospital-court-faq.113466/ a Kiwi Farms thread here].''
{{Ongoing}}

[[File:2021 Chris Chan mugshot.jpg|thumb|300px|Chris's mugshot for his [[Affair with Mother|incest]] charge, Henrico County Sheriff's Office.<ref name=sun/> Note how Chris almost looks ''content'' after being arrested for incest, compared to [[:File:ChrisMugshot.jpg|his despondent mugshot]] [[26 December 2014|taken the same day that he maced a dude]].]]

Following allegations in late [[July 2021|July]] and the eventual confirmation that [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] had committed [[Affair with Mother|incest with]] [[Barb]], hundreds of people contacted the Greene County police, and authorities conducted a welfare check on the Chandler home, issuing an Emergency Protective Order on [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] the following day (essentially a temporary week-long restraining order). Chris was made temporarily homeless and stayed at the Richmond Regency Inn in the meantime. Chris was '''arrested on 1 [[August 2021]]''', outside of the Inn. The arrest was captured live on stream by [[Orbiter Wave#Ethan Ralph|several onlookers]]. Surprisingly, despite Chris's past history with [[Chris and the law|the law]], he made no attempt to resist arrest and was cooperative with the police.

Chris is in jail, not prison. Chris will only go to prison if he is convicted of a felony, which is on the table since his case is being presented to a {{w|Grand juries in the United States#Virginia|grand jury}}. Since 2 August 2021, Chris has been an inmate at Central Virginia Regional Jail and is awaiting trial for the charge of incest as well as pending charges yet to be identified.<ref name="press release"/> He was arraigned on 5 August 2021 and is being held without bond. Hearings in [[November 2021]] and [[February 2022]] resulted in continuances; his next court date was 28 [[July 2022]].<ref name=ContinuanceDate2>{{Cite farms|thread=112013|title=2/3/22 - Hearing speculation thread}}</ref>

Since his arrest, Chris's only contact with the outside world has been through [[Jail Communications|written correspondence and phone calls]], which began in August 2021 and continued through February 2022. On 28 February 2022, Chris was transferred from the Central Virginia Regional Jail<ref>[[:File:Transfer.jpg]]</ref> to [[Western State Hospital]], a mental institution, as he was deemed incompetent to stand trial. On 3 [[May 2022]], Chris was transferred back to Central Virginia Regional Jail,<ref>[[:File:May3jailconfirmed.PNG]]</ref> having been restored as competent to stand trial.

In July 2022, the last hearing within the J&DR court's jurisdiction occurred, and the case was sent to a Grand Jury.

==Background==
{{See also|Affair with Mother}}

[[File:EscapeIntoMadness.jpg|thumb|left|300px|''Stone walls do not a prison make, Nor iron bars a cage: Minds innocent and quiet take That for an hermitage. If I have freedom in my love, And in my soul am free, Angels alone, that soar above, Enjoy such liberty.'']]
[[File:JailArt7.jpg|300px|thumb|right|''"Happiness can still be a Hug away; even if you're hugging your self."'' A poignant piece of [[jail art]] drawn by Chris in [[May 2022]].]]

It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest - sexual activities between a parent and a child are a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration.<ref name=kvia>[https://kvia.com/news/us-world/2021/08/10/transgender-autistic-internet-personality-chris-chan-held-without-bond-in-mens-jail-on-incest-charge-involving-senile-mom/ Transgender, autistic internet personality Chris Chan held without bond in men's jail on incest charge involving senile mom]</ref> Despite rumors, Chris hasn't been charged for rape, and whether or not Chris's affairs were entirely consensual remains unknown.

In the early morning of 28 July 2021, Chris discussed having sex with his mother in a call and text messages with [[Isabella Loretta Janke]]. On the night of 29 July, the [[Suitress]] leaked the files. The next morning, as reports poured in, Greene County Police visited [[14 Branchland Court]] for a [[Welfare check|wellness check]].<ref name=sun/> They issued Chris an Emergency Protective Order, forbidding contact between him and Barbara, and by extension, preventing him from remaining at her residence until 5 August. Meanwhile, Barbara was relocated to a hospital for a senior care inspection.<ref name=removed>{{Cite farms
| thread = 96559
| title = Chris-Chan incest leak / Chris has been removed from 14 Branchland Court
| wayback = 20211006023749
}}</ref>

As a result of the protection order levied against Chris, he was without a home for the time being. Due to [[Financhu Crisis|ongoing financial problems]], Chris could not afford a hotel. [[Null]] advised him to sleep in [[Son-Chu#Barb's Dodge Caravan|his van]] for one night, noting that Chris would have have the proceeds of Chris's GoFundMe (originally intended for Chris's trip to [[Everfree Northwest]]) transferred to his bank account the following day. Initial plans to stay with [[Aunt Harriet and Uncle Tom]] were disrupted after their invitation was rescinded - likely while he was already on the way to their home.<ref name=letter>[[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021]]</ref>{{refn|
Chris told Null that after spending the night in his car, he would go to a mall as soon as it opened in the morning and loiter there.<ref name=NullTexts/> The two malls he mentioned, [[Leonard Bearstein|Regency Mall]] and Chesterfield Towne Center, are in [[Richmond]].<ref>{{w|Regency Mall (Richmond, Virginia)}} and {{w|Chesterfield Towne Center}} on Wikipedia</ref> This suggests that [[Aunt Harriet and Uncle Tom]], who live in Richmond's southwest suburbs,<ref>[[Miyamoto emails#Please Give Me $800|Chris leaks the Ashbys' address to Miyamoto-san]]</ref> did not rescind their invitation until he had actually gotten near their home.}}

On 30th of July, Everfree Northwest posted that "appropriate action to protect the vulnerable" will be taken; while not naming Chris, it is suspected that that this tweet refers to the revocation of Chris's invitation to the convention,<ref>[[:File:EverfreeNorthwestBansChris.jpg|Everfree Northwest tweet]]</ref> which Null subsequently confirmed. Due to the disturbing and lurid nature of the allegations, hashtags and topics such as #ChrisChan and #CHRISCHANDIDWHAT trended on Twitter, reaching 4th overall trend on July 30th,<ref>[https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/who-chris-chan-sonichu-comic-creator-leaves-twitter-scandalized-latest-trend Who is Chris Chan? Sonichu comic creator leaves Twitter scandalized with latest trend]</ref> exposing a large number of otherwise uninvolved individuals to the story of Chris-Chan causing the [[Orbiter Wave]].

On 31 July, Null, who had access to Chris's email (with Chris's permission) since the [[Guard Dogs]] Saga,<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref><ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/ OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref> found that Chris had received $750.00 from Barb's bank account, meaning he had either contacted Barb or gained access to Barb's bank account himself, either of which would violate the emergency protection order. When confronted, Chris initially denied the accusation, claiming he had "managed to find blessings in the minimum abundance needed." However, upon further questioning Chris about the money, he confirmed that he had had access to Barb's account for some time, contrary to Null's previous assumption that Barb had been in control of Chris's finances and not vice versa. Being upset by Chris embezzling from his mother and feeling betrayed that Chris lied to him to try to cover it up, Null finally cut all contact with him, reported the theft to authorities, and canceled the transfer of the GoFundMe money, arranging for it to be refunded to the donors.<ref name=NullTexts>[[Incest fallout chat leaks#Chris takes money from Barb]]</ref>

==Arrest==
{{quote|I am [[Chris-Chan Sonichu]], your [[Messiah complex|Goddess]] [[CPU Blue Heart|Blue Heart]], and I continue to stand strong, and I maintain everything with [[CWCVille]] and my [[Sonichu (species)|Sonichus]] and [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechus]] and everybody. I keep in good faith that everything is going to work out.|Chris, while being arrested.<ref name=video>[[#Video|Video of Chris's arrest filmed by Killstream crew]]</ref>}}
[[File:Arrestchu.jpeg|thumb|left|400px|"Ladies and gentlemen, we got him."]]
On the evening of 31 July, Reddit user ''[[Chrisisaman]]'' located [[Son-chu]] at the Regency Inn in [[Richmond]], confirming that Chris was in the city and that he would be spending time in a motel.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20210801045236/https://old.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/ovlys1/location_confirmed_10_minutes_ago/ Archived Reddit post confirming Chris's location]</ref> The next day, [[Post-Merge Era|a number of people]] attempted to observe or contact Chris there. Observers noticed police cars stationed at the motel, but because the place was known to have a seedy reputation, it was not obvious if they were there for Chris or for some other reason. These cop cars eventually left without arresting Chris.

The most significant of the observers was YouTuber [[Ethan Ralph]] who livestreamed himself and his friends [[Ween|driving to the motel to meet Chris]]. The group [[Live Reading of SNT Vs Sonichu, Part 2|ordered a pizza]] in the hopes of luring him out, but this was unsuccessful - Chris was apparently too busy messaging [[The WCT]].{{refn|The time Ralph was knocking on Chris's door - about 3:01 PM<ref name=snippet/> - is almost exactly the same as the timestamps on Chris's final messages to The WCT - 3:10 PM.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Chris's final messages]]</ref>}} They then went about knocking on every door on the second floor (Chris had previously been filmed walking along the second floor balcony, suggesting that was where he was staying), but this was fruitless as well, and only led to the menagerie being ordered to leave by a [[Jerkop|motel employee]].<ref name=snippet>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/8-1-21-ethan-ralph-tries-to-drag-chris-chan-to-his-house.96772/post-9596798 Archived stream snippet]</ref>

Not giving up, the group went to the {{w|Regency Mall (Richmond, Virginia)|Regency Mall}} (of [[Christopher's name change#Leonard Bearstein|'the bear']] fame) across the street, following (incorrect) speculation that Chris might be there since he was not in his room. While livestreaming at the mall they had an encounter with a police officer, who would happen to be one of the officers who arrested Chris a few hours later (as Ethan acknowledges during the arrest).

Later that afternoon, Ralph was tipped off that four Henrico County police cars had shown up at the motel. At around 6:00 PM, he got back just in time to film two officers perp-walking Chris down from his room, streaming the whole debacle for a live audience of over 3,000 viewers. While the police talked to Chris, Ralph sporadically yelled questions and comments, to which Chris occasionally responded.

Unlike Chris's previous run-ins with the law, he remained mostly calm and compliant during the arrest (possibly due to [[The WCT]] having [[WCT DMs#Discussing the incest fallout|advised him the previous day]] to cooperate with the police during his arrest), though he rambled about the [[Dimensional Merge]] to both the police and Ralph's crew, promising that the Merge was in fact happening right at that moment. The police then loaded Chris into a squad car and left without answering Ralph's questions.<ref name=video/> An additional POV shot filmed by an anonymous onlooker showed Chris climbing directly into the cop car – the last footage of Chris to date.

===Video===

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===Transcript===
'''NOTE''': This transcript begins around 2:24:54, shortly after Ralph changes the perspective on his phone camera.

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''[The song "Save Your Tears" by the Weeknd plays in the background, while we see the inside of Ethan Ralph's car.]''

'''Ralph''': You guys can't see this, but...

'''Girl''': They're bringing her out! They're bringing her out.

'''Ralph''': Oh, shit! Oh ''shit''--

''[The camera pans to a neighboring car, and a girl coming out with her phone to also film the events'']

'''Girl''': Oh my god!

'''Ralph''': They're arresting her!

''[Ralph gets out of the car and walks toward the fence. The woman from earlier is now kneeling with her phone pointing at the motel. Ralph walks past her.]''

'''Ralph''': Sorry.

''[Camera zooms in on the motel, focusing on the second floor, where the police officers are walking Chris]''

'''Girl in background''': Oh my god!

'''Ralph''': Yeah, they're arresting Chris-Chan here at the hotel.

'''Chris''': ''(yelling) To the trolls and anybody else on the internet, do not record this!''

'''Ralph''': ''(yelling)'' CHRIS-CHAN, ''WHAT'S UP?!'' Killstream, baby! When you get out, let's do the Killstream! Look me up!

'''Guy in background''': Let the charges drop! It's all about [[Null|Joshua Conner Moon]]!

'''Ralph''': Tell 'em all about Josh Moon, that's who they want!

''[Bystanders start yelling]''

'''Girl in background''': Give it up, Chris-Chan!

'''Guy in background''': Give him up... save yourself, girl!

'''Another guy in background''': Magi-Chan will help you!

'''Guy in background''': You're beautiful!

'''Ralph''': Look up Ethan Ralph, Killstream! I live here in Richmond, buddy!

'''Girl in background''': Go to church!

'''Ralph''': No, come to... come to the Killstream first!

''[As the cops walk Chris down the stairs, there is more yelling]''

'''Person below''': ETHAN I BOUGHT YOUR STICKER!

'''Ralph''': YEEEAH! What kind of shit is this? Holy shit! Oh my god, thank you!

''[The cops are now walking Chris past the motel entrance]''

'''Guy in background''': Got a (indistinct) here!

'''Girl in background''': Christian Weston Chandler, right here being...

''[Camera turns past a nearby building as Ralph runs toward the motel parking lot]''

'''Ralph''': Oh, shit, oh! You better hurry Jesse, you're missing out! Hehe.

''[The camera now zooms in on Chris and three police officers, now standing outside a police car]''

'''Police officer''':...oh no, (indistinct) transport in the front...

''[One of the officers says something to Chris that cannot be heard, presumably asking for his name]''

'''Chris''': ...Chris-Chan, or Sonichu, as they know...

''[Stream freezes for a couple seconds]''

'''Girl in background''':...Chris. (indistinct) Bring 'em...

''[A fourth officer gets out of one of the police cars]''

'''Ralph''': Hey, officers, how's it going?

'''Police officer''': How you doing? I just saw you.

'''Ralph''': Yeah, that's right! That's you, oh my god!

'''Person in background''': Sorry about that, guys.

'''Ralph''': I told you!

'''Chris''': I'm going, I'm complying...

'''Girl in background''': (To Ralph) Is the car unlocked?

'''Chris''': I'm complying, I am good like this!

'''Guy in background''': (To Chris) You are, you absolutely are!

'''Girl in background''': (To Ralph) Is the car unlocked?

'''Ralph''': (To Girl) Yeah, I think so.

'''Ralph''': (To Chris) Yeah, you appear to be complying.

'''Chris''': I am Chris-Chan Sonichu, your [[CPU Blue Heart|Goddess Blue Heart]], and I continue to stand strong, and I maintain everything with [[CWCVille]] and my [[Sonichu (species)|Sonichus and Rosechus]] and everybody.

'''Ralph''': Yeah, you're live to about 3,000 people right now, Christian!

'''Guy in background''': How do you plead?

'''Ralph''': Well don't...you're taking everything in stride, you said you're doing good?

'''Chris''' : Yeah. I keep a good faith everything is going to work out.

'''Ralph''': Doing good, feeling good?

'''Chris''' : Yep.

'''Ralph''': How's the last few days been? I know it's been pretty [[Stress|stressful]].

'''Chris''' : Bit stressful, but... I've taken it one moment at a time and...I've got my...I've got my loves.

'''Ralph''': Well that's good.

'''Guy in background''': Do you, like, Josh Moon, like, did you dirty?

''[An officer begins frisking Chris, and apparently finds something on his waistband]''

'''Chris''': (To officer) Oh, well, that's just the one thing, that's a pin. Feel free, just go ahead and take it out, it's a picture of Muffins from ''[[My Little Pony]]''.

'''Guy in background''': Your [[Love Quest]] is over, Chris!

'''Chris''': (To officer) I promise like...I was not (indistinct) to fall... it fell off my bag, I did not want to lose it. And please, I would like that in my collection. (indistinct)

'''Jesse''': Hey, Ethan!

'''Ralph''': What's up, Jesse?

'''Jesse''': How you doing?

'''Ralph''': Boy we almost missed it, huh?

''[Ralph and Jesse laugh]''

'''Jesse''': I was wandering around the mall.

''[The officer starts searching Chris's left side]''

'''Chris''': Well, heh. He's not offering me any options there...

'''Officer''': I'm just letting you know I'm... (indistinct)

'''Girl in background''': I literally ran out to get that (chuckles). This is nuts.

''[Someone makes a noise in the background]''

'''Jesse''': Christine, this man does want to help you.

'''Ralph''': Yeah, we were trying to get you on the show, but...look, when you get out, look me up, Killstream. I don't know if you know who I am or not.

'''Girl in background''': We're here to help you!

''[Indistinct yelling in background]''

'''Ralph''': We saw what Josh was doing to you, so we wanted to come try to talk to you.

''[The cop finishes his search]''

'''Police officer''': (To Chris) Do you have anything else on you?

'''Chris''': I have nothing else on me.

''[The police officer says something to Chris]''

'''Chris''': I understand. I have no weed, I have no drugs on (indistinct)... like I said, frisk me, there you go! (chuckles)

'''Ralph''': (Chuckles)

'''Chris''': [[Homos|That felt good]]!

'''Ralph''': (Laughs loudly)

'''Chris''': Thank you.

'''Police officer''': Alright, let's have a seat.

'''Jesse''': Christine, is the merge coming?

'''Ralph''': Aight...

'''Chris''': It's happening now, we're on the very last thread!

'''Ralph''': (talking over Chris) The Merge, it's happening right now, isn't it?

'''Girl in background''': It's happening right now, it is.

'''Chris''': We're living it!

''[Chris turns to the officers.]''

'''Chris''': (indistinct) ...Batman into a hero.

''[Chris sits down as one of the officers points into the back of the police car]''

'''Girl in background''': It's happening right now.

'''Guy in background''': Merge the dimensions, Chris!

'''Ralph''': Farewell, Chris Chan!

'''Girl in background''': (indistinct) The Dimensional Merge is happening right now, August 1, 2021.

''[Chris disappears into the back of the police car]''

'''Ralph''': Well there goes Chris Chan into the Henrico County... deputy's car here.

'''Guy in background''': Don't let the boulder(?) hit you!

'''Ralph''': I don't think they've had an... arrest like this.

'''Girl in background''': No, don't think so.

'''Ralph''': We just got here, too.

'''Guy in background''': This is like the first time nobody's filming the police.

'''Girl in background''': I know.

''[Everyone laughs]''

'''Someone else in background''': ...beginning of an era.

'''Another person in background''': ...did you bring the wallet?

'''Guy in background''': Which one of you wanted to ask questions?

'''Jesse''': Oh I had a chance, but...

'''Ralph''': Okay...

'''Guy in background''': (To officers) Yeah, please do take like good care of her, she is like a good person.

'''Police officer''': I will. I treat everybody the same, man. Alright, y'all have a good day.

'''Ralph''': Thank you, officers.

'''Guy in background''': Thank you.

'''Ralph''': I appreciate y'all taking enough time for me to get here, too.

''[Camera turns away from the police cars]''

'''Ralph''': Woww! (breathing heavily) Was that... (camera turns to show Ralph's face) ...was that a scoop or what, ladies and gentlemen? What the, what in the world? Oh as always, falling into my lap here!

'''Guy in background''': (indistinct) ...tell me I didn't make it happen, I told you it was gonna happen.

'''Girl in background''': Dude... (indistinct)

'''Ralph''': He did, he told me. I wasn't going to come out to all this, but...

'''Girl in background''': I can't believe he stayed over here!

'''Ralph''': ...we just got the footage, Jesse PS was riding up over here!

''[End of relevant footage.]''
}}

==Initial jail stay==
[[File:Chris Chan Calls Sonichu In Jail.jpg|thumb|left|250px|{{w|Spec Ops: The Line|"None of this would've happened if you just ''stopped''."}}]]
[[File:Henrico County Jail West.JPG|thumb|300px|Aerial view of Henrico County Jail West]]
[[File:Central Virginia Regional Jail.JPG|thumb|300px|Aerial view of Central Virginia Regional Jail]]
At 8:23 PM later that day, Chris was booked into Henrico County Jail West and held without bail.<ref name=charged/><ref name=sun>{{Cite web
| url = https://www.the-sun.com/news/3394847/chris-chan-sonichu-arrested-incest/
| autoarchive = 20210804202308
| title = Chris Chan arrested for ‘incest’ after claims Sonichu comic book creator sexually assaulted family member
| website = The Sun
}}</ref> On 2 August 2021, the Charlottesville CBS affiliate, CBS 19, reported on the case, following the release of a press release from the Greene County Sheriff's Department indicating that Chris had been moved to [[Chris's homes#Central Virginia Regional Jail|Central Virginia Regional Jail]], which serves several rural counties including Greene County.<ref name="press release">Press release on [https://www.cbs19news.com/story/44432363/suspect-arrested-in-sex-crimes-against-family-member-case CBS], [https://www.facebook.com/269663503100241/photos/a.398555170211073/4389133984486485/?type=3 Facebook]</ref>

Calls to the Sheriff's Office confirmed that Chris was being held on a charge of incest. Notably, the charge against Chris is listed on the Henrico Sheriff's Office website as "incest with own child or grandchild",<ref name=charged>[[:File:Charged.png]]</ref> presumably because "incest with own parent" charges are too uncommon to warrant an option for them in the software.<ref>{{Cite farms
|thread = 96776
|post = 9613612
|title = Chris - The Legal Issues - A Prosecutor's Perspective
|user = TherapyMan
|wayback = 20210804182815
}}</ref>

The record for Chris's custody status initially labelled him as female<ref>[[:File:Chris custody status female gender.png]]</ref> due to him having legally changed the gender marker on his driver's license in 2016.<ref>[[:File:Christine license.jpg]]</ref> It was claimed by sensationalist media that Chris would be housed in a female jail,<ref>https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9859653/Trans-YouTuber-Chris-Chan-39-filed-female-police-housed-women-inmates.html</ref><ref name=tucker>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9PW_XVGWHw Tucker Carlson discusses Chris-Chan]</ref> though this was not confirmed by official sources. The custody status record was updated to list Chris as male without explanation and he was placed in a corresponding facility.<ref name=InsiderGender>[https://www.insider.com/chris-chan-arrest-jail-transgender-trans-woman-men-male-incest-2021-8 After her arrest on an incest charge, Chris Chan is being categorized as male in jail despite being a trans woman]</ref> It is noted that transgender inmates in Virginia are usually only placed in the prison of their identified gender if they have received sex-change surgery,<ref>[https://richmond.com/news/virginia/transgender-prison-inmates-5-to-6-times-more-likely-to-be-victims-of-sexual-assault/article_79c231fd-4d27-5a38-bc48-500301794348.html Transgender prison inmates 5 to 6 times more likely to be victims of sexual assault in U.S., study says]</ref> which Chris has not. On 7 August 2021, conservative media host {{w|Tucker Carlson}} briefly talked about the discourse in a {{w|Fox News}} segment, exposing millions of retired, right-wing boomers to Chris for the first time.<ref name=tucker></ref>

Many observers predicted Chris would not take to an extended jail stay well. However, on August 5, the jail's Captain Hoffman told news, "I've had an interaction with inmate Chandler and it's been fine. Everything is okay."<ref name=InsiderGender/> This surprising revelation could be explained by a [[Jail Letter - 8 November 2021 (Stories from the Penitentiary)|letter]] Chris sent from jail in early November, which strongly implies that he has been placed in some form of protective custody to ensure his safety. A [[Jail Letter - 4 October 2021|previous letter]] he sent in early October confirms that he is being fed well and that he has been able to purchase minor luxuries from the jail's commissary including playing cards, earplugs and a [[Muscle bra|sports bra]].

==Legal proceedings and communications==
The case is being handled by the Greene County Juvenile and Domestic Relations court.<ref name=ContinuanceDate>{{Cite farms|thread=105669|title=11/18/2021 - Court case continued into the new year}}</ref> Due to the sensitive nature of the court's cases, it is unknown what details will be publicly available.

=== First court appearance ===
[[File:HeilbergPortraitNew.jpg|200px|thumb|left|Chris's lawyer, David Heilberg.]]
On 4 August 2021, Kenneth Sneathern, a judge from Greene County's General District Court, assigned David Heilberg to represent Chris, and also transferred the case to Greene's J&DR (Juvenile and Domestic Relations) court for bond.

During the hearing, Chris requested feminine pronouns be used for himself due to being [[transgender]].<ref name=initial_trial/>

=== Second court appearance ===
On 5 August 2021, Chris appeared before Greene County's J&DR court for the beginning of his arraignment, represented by Charlottesville public defender David Heilberg.<ref name=initial_trial/>

Edwin Consolvo, the attorney representing [[Greene County]], asked presiding judge David M. Barredo to deny Chris bond out of concern for "the community's safety and Ms. Chandler's safety," pointing out that "it’s clear that people sought out where Chandler was staying at a hotel in Henrico and videotaped her arrest." Chris interrupted by loudly saying, "[[Chris and his ego|I'm famous on the internet]]," to which Heilberg advised him not to speak unless spoken to by the court.

Chris was sworn in to state his case for bond, but instead demanded to be allowed to pick up personal possessions first, saying he would be "willing to proceed with everything if I can get that done."

Judge Barredo pointed out that bond considerations involve whether a defendant is a flight risk and whether the defendant is a danger to himself, his family, or community. Chris interrupted to say, "she", in reference to his [[transgender]] identity; Barredo responded he was reciting from the state statute.

Barredo ordered Chris to be held without bond until the preliminary trial on 16 September, listing as reasons the nature of the allegations against Chris and that there appears to be a personal danger to Chris and the public at large. While Heilberg was informing the judge that he sought "[[Autism papers|evaluations]]" of Chris, Chris ''interrupted his own attorney'' by loudly stomping on the floor and demanding "to get everything back home,” claiming "I won’t feel safe proceeding" until he could get the items back.<ref name=initial_trial>[https://dailyprogress.com/community/greenenews/news/internet-personality-chris-chan-in-court-on-incest-charge/article_eaa0710c-f492-11eb-bba8-7f35686d288a.html Internet personality "Chris-Chan" in court on incest charge] [https://web.archive.org/web/20210805180746/https://dailyprogress.com/community/greenenews/news/internet-personality-chris-chan-in-court-on-incest-charge/article_eaa0710c-f492-11eb-bba8-7f35686d288a.html (archive)]</ref>

Judging by Chris's behavior, it can be inferred that Chris either did not fully understand or [[Chris and remorse|care about]] the seriousness of his charges and the possible [[Chris and negotiation|consequences]], or that he still expected to be saved by the [[Dimensional Merge]].

On 9 August 2021, Newsweek posted an article on the case, quoting Heilberg, who said that his client was "legally disabled with mental health issues," and called Chris's online antics "a product of mental health issues causing misguided attention seeking and often provocative engagement with others."<ref name=MentalHealth>{{Cite web
| url = https://www.newsweek.com/chris-chans-lawyer-says-mental-health-issues-contributed-incest-charge-1617388
| title = Chris Chan's Lawyer Says 'Mental Health Issues' Contributed to Incest Charge
| last = Beresford
| first = Jack
| website = Newsweek
}}</ref>

=== Continuance and first letter from jail ===
{{Main|Jail Letter - 19 September 2021}}
[[File:Nullletter1.jpg|thumb|200px|The first page of Chris's letter.]]
Chris's next court appearance was to begin 16 [[September 2021]],<ref name=initial_trial/> but got a continuance before the hearing was even set to commence{{refn|The hearing was scheduled for 10:00 AM;<ref name=initial_trial/> news of the continuance broke at 8:31 AM.<ref name=time>{{Cite farms
| thread = 9-16-2021-court-case-gets-a-continuance.100315
| post = 9988888
| title = 9-16-21: Court Case Gets a Continuance
| autoarchive = 20211022184458
}}</ref>}} due to the defense requesting more time to evaluate Chris's [[Chris and mental healthcare|mental health]], giving him a brief respite.<ref name=ContinuanceReason>{{Cite farms
| thread = 9-16-2021-court-case-gets-a-continuance.100315
| post = 9990379
| title = 9-16-21: Court Case Gets a Continuance
| autoarchive = 20211022184106
}}</ref>

Three days later, Chris penned a bizarre letter directed to [[Null]] and defense lawyer David Heilberg, in which he ranted at [[Null]] for turning his back on Chris, and claimed to be [[Jesus Christ]] reincarnated, among other equally batshit statements.<ref name=letter/>

=== More communications from jail ===
{{See also|Jail Communications}}
In [[:Category:Jail Letters|additional correspondences from jail]], Chris provides brief updates on his current experiences and conditions in jail. He would also continue to double down on [[Chris and reality|his delusions]], threaten any weens to not steal things from his house, beg for money for both himself and Barbara, and demand his release from jail. In [[Jail Letter - 3 October 2021|one of these letters]] Chris rejects a fan's attempt to convert him to Islam. As with his previous replies, he draws offensive comparisons between himself and Allah, and rants more about the [[Dimensional Merge]].

Chris has also called several people while in jail using the inmate telephone service, although, what Chris says in these calls is not much different from what can be found inside the letters. However, [[Jail Call - 11 January 2022|in one of the calls]], Chris states that he has attempted to call Barbara multiple times, only to receive no answer from her.

=== Third court appearance ===

Chris's second court appearance was scheduled for the 18 [[November 2021|November]].<ref name=ContinuanceDate></ref> Several fans attempted to attend this hearing, but were turned away by courthouse staff,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/qwr53j/tried_going_to_the_hearing_but_was_turned_away_by/</ref> as the hearing was closed at the request of Chris's lawyer.<ref name=ContinuanceDate></ref>

Another continuance was granted, with the next hearing taking place after the new year, on 3 [[February 2022]].<ref name=ContinuanceDate></ref> Chris spent the Thanksgiving, [[Christmas]], and New Years holidays behind bars.

The 3 February hearing was also closed to the public and resulted in another continuance. As a result, Chris spent his 40th [[Christian Love Day|birthday]] incarcerated and missed out on [[BABSCon]] in April. The 28 [[July 2022]] court hearing took place without a continuance, four days short of the one-year anniversary of his arrest,<ref>{{cite farms|thread=112013|post=11138163}}</ref> which resulted in the case being presented to a Grand Jury.

=== Transfer ===
[[File:Transfer.jpg|thumb|200px|Email from VINE confirming the transfer.]]

On 28 February 2022, the Virginia VINE Service confirmed that Chris had been transferred to another location from Central Virginia Regional Jail.<ref>[https://vinelink.vineapps.com/person-detail/offender/17312020;tabIndexToSelect=0 VINELink page]</ref><ref>{{Cite farms
|thread = 113715
|post = 11292959
|title = Chris transferred to another facility
|user = Turbocuck
|wayback = 20220302065944
}}</ref> Details regarding the circumstances that led to this are not known, but Chris eventually confirmed he had been sent to [[Western State Hospital]].<ref name=1jun>[[Jail Letter - 1 June 2022]]</ref><ref group = "note">VINELink could not track Chris in the period of his transfer, so wherever he was placed is not a jail. The courts are required by law to say if Chris was transferred to a prison. The transfer status would be "Released" if Chris was sent back to his house. When called, CVRJ says the information is "Privileged" which usually means medical.</ref> This was due to a competency evaluation following his third hearing, so he could be "educated" on court proceedings for his July hearing.
[[File:Inmate No Longer Here.jpg|thumb|left|A letter to Chris's jail being rejected due to him being transferred.]]
Someone claiming to work for an EMS later private messaged the CWCki Jerkop [[User:Larry the Larryhog|Larry the Larryhog]] about Chris's record.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/feb-28-2022-chris-transferred-to-another-facility.113715/page-31#post-11335917 Kiwi Farms post regarding Chris's record]</ref> They claimed that Chris was transferred via ambulance with a law enforcement escort and that Chris was able to receive narcotic sedative when needed (though the claims are yet to be verified). A Kiwi Farms member claimed that Chris may have been brought to Western State Hospital,<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/feb-28-2022-chris-transferred-to-another-facility.113715/page-15#post-11307353 Kiwi Farms post claiming that Chris was transferred to the Western State Hospital]</ref> which specializes in mental disorders, and this was eventually confirmed by [[Jail Letter - 1 June 2022]], in which Chris revealed details indicating Western State Hospital.

=== Second Transfer ===
[[File:May3jailconfirmed.PNG|thumb|200px]]
[[File:Cwcjailphotomay3.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris's third mugshot. The shit eating grin on his face has faded away, and all it took was a simple game of [[Jail Letter - 1 June 2022|Pin The Autistic a day before his return]].]]
Chris was transferred back to the Central Virginia Regional Jail on 3 [[May 2022]]. A mugshot that was taken after the transfer, the first photo of him since [[August 2021]], shows Chris noticeably thinner, with longer hair, more sunken-in eyes, and looking much more gaunt and less enthusiastic than he did previously. This was apparently due to a second [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School|pin-me-down]] event occurring shortly before, likely from [[Chris and anger|a violent outburst or other such altercation]] with the orderlies.<ref name=1jun></ref>

=== Fourth court appearance and Grand Jury ===

{{Misinfo|Chris was sent to a {{w|Grand juries in the United States#Virginia|grand jury}}, not a trial. At this point his sentence has not been determined.}}

Chris's fourth court appearance was scheduled for 10:00AM EDT on 28 [[July 2022]]<ref>https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1002207497098105012/1002207619286577203/2022-07-28_06-31-26.mov</ref> as revealed by a call from an anonymous Discord user to the Greene County Juvenile and Domestic Relations court. It has to be noted that the courthouse gave this information freely and without asking any further questions about the inquiry.

[[Kenneth Engelhardt]] had confirmed that Chris has been sent to a <abbr title="A jury of peers, larger than a regular jury, who determine if someone is competent to stand trial, or if the state currently has enough evidence to charge them with a felony. The grand jury does not determine someone's innocence or guilt.">grand jury</abbr> for potential felony charges.

{{quoteboxonion|I just called the Clerk of Court for Greene County regarding CWC. Yes it is verified this is going before a grand jury on felony charges.}}

Chris's grand jury hearing is expected to occur on 8 August 2022.

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=== Looking forward ===
Exactly what is next for Chris will be heavily influenced by the outcome of the legal processes involved. Son-mother incest is a Class 5 felony in Virginia.<ref>https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter8/section18.2-366/</ref> Class 5 is a wobbler felony which can either remain as a felony or be downgraded to a misdemeanor.<ref>https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter1/section18.2-10/</ref><ref>https://www.silislaw.com/blog/2014/april/virginia-criminal-law-basics-felonies/</ref> With his charge imminent to be upgraded to a felony, he could be facing a [[Kick the autistic|much longer sentence]]; the maximum sentence for felony incest is 10 years, and the maximum sentence for rape is life, with the possibility of [[28 October 2011|other]] [[26 December 2014|charges]] stacking on top of it, adding additional years to his sentencing. If Barb is found to have been physically incapacitated, Chris will be placed on the [[List of places that have banned Chris#Looking ahead|sex offender registry]] for a minimum of fifteen years when (or if) he gets out.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20210318155920/http://sex-offender.vsp.virginia.gov/sor/statutes.html</ref> In addition, if Chris is charged with a felony, his subsequent legal proceedings must be open to the public.

To make matters even worse for Chris however, is that due to Virginia's three strikes law (Virginia Code Section 19.2-297.1) Chris if found guilty on a single violent felony charge, will be getting a mandatory life sentence since Chris has committed two previous violent felonies and this would be the third.

Many observers have suspected that Chris' lawyer attempted to get him to take up a plea deal with a year of time served, but that Chris rejected such a deal, possibly out of the belief that he would still be saved by the Dimensional Merge, or at the very least think he'll be found not guilty [[Honor Roll|despite effectively confessing to the act of incest multiple times]] in both the [[Incest Call]] and [[Incest Texts]].

Another possibility is that Chris has taken a plea deal and that the terms of the deal include a felony conviction. This would allow Chris to be released on a suspended sentence plus time served, with the threat of prison time should he violate the conditions of his release. If Chris were released with a misdemeanor conviction, the prosecution would not be able to attach any conditions to his release because he has already served the full time for his offense.

Further complicating matters is that as early as [[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022|11 May 2022]], Chris began denying he had ever engaged in any sexual affairs with Barb (despite previously stating he had in the [[Incest Call]] and [[Incest Texts]]), even claiming that Bella confessed to fabricating information during the call without any clarification whatsoever.<ref name=1jun></ref> Needless to say, if Chris were to intentionally give false statements in a court of law, it would be digging a deeper hole for him, given existing evidence.

If Barb consented to sex or even made the first move (which would be consistent with [[Barbara Chandler#Intimate behavior|Barb's long-known uncomfortably touchy-feely behavior around Chris]]), she could be charged as a willing accomplice, and will most certainly need to [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|vacate]] her home in the event of a conviction. However, if she did not or could not consent, Chris could be facing a potential rape charge which, in the worst case, could net him a life sentence. Whether or not he will be allowed to take up parole will be up to the State of Virginia to decide, given the severity of such charges. However, Chris alleges that Heilberg told him that Barbara was never questioned about her involvement in the incest on account of her old age and "falling mentality".<ref>[[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022]]</ref>

==Charge==
On 29 [[July 2022]], Greene County Circuit Court posted information relating to Chris's case. Chris's case number is CR22000141-00 and the offense is 18.2-366 (written in the software as "Incest w/own child"), a Class 5 felony. The information also provides official confirmation that Chris had been sent to [[Western State Hospital]] earlier in the year. It also notes that David Heilberg had sent a letter to Chris before the last hearing. Note that the dates aren't accurately reflected, as the records weren't public until July 29. Future pleadings and orders regarding Chris will presumably be dated accurately and have all boxes filled in.

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==Fan videos==
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = Sonichu Saves Chris Chan from Prison to Fight Clyde Cash & Liquid Chris!
| video = {{#ev:youtube|-BCDY1xWcUM}}
| stardate = 11 [[September 2021]]
| maker = sheWIND
| subject = Chris in jail
| type = Animation
| info = "Christine Weston Chandler, aka Chris Chan, mayor of Cwcville, is rescued by the demential merge after going to jail for hurting Barb by Sonichu to have a final battle against some of his strongest trolls, Clyde Cash and Liquid Chris!!"
}}

{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = chris chan in prison
| video = {{#ev:youtube|9Yq3D_ohKXw}}
| stardate = 3 [[January 2022]]
| maker = Antonio Prola
| subject = Chris in jail
| info = "......you know the how expression too many cooks spoil the broth? Well t- this was too many crooks! Too many CROOKS! TOO many CROOKS! And that ED page is one of those crooks. Every page. Every word. On the discussion page. Is a crook."

}}

{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = Congratulations Chris Chan, Animatic with Voices
| video = {{#ev:youtube|FZlxWjymXso}}
| stardate = 5 [[May 2022]]
| maker = nathanwagnervo
| subject = Animatic
| info = Sonichu musically telling off Chris for ruining his own life.

}}

==See also==
*[[28 October 2011]]
*[[26 December 2014]]
*[[Post-Merge Era]]

{{Notes}}

==References==
<references/>
{{Articleofthenow}}
{{IncestSaga}}
{{PrisonSaga}}
{{Law}}
[[Category:Articles with Jail Saga speculation]]

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[[Image:SonichuLogo.png|center|Man's ultimate Rorschach test.]]
[[File:Sonichu Graphic Novel Set From Zero To Awakening1.jpg|thumb|''Sonichu'', issues 0 to 7]]
{{quote|[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fanfic/MyImmortal My Immortal] has a sort of grandeur to it, since it has been ([http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StealthParody possibly]) carefully constructed to be as terrible as possible. '''This''' is no parody. This is a man's life – [[Relics of Fail|his failures]], [[Chris and mental healthcare|his neuroses]], [[Chris and coping|his fantasies]], [[Chris and reality|his warped worldview]], proudly displayed for the world on paper and pixels. Reading Sonichu and learning about its author is nothing less than a descent into someone's personal hell, made all the more terrible for the fact that the author intends for the experience to '''entertain''' people. That they would '''purchase''' it. There is no joy, no fun in CWCville – there is only layer upon layer of '''horror'''.|A now-deleted "So Bad, It's Horrible" entry from the [[User:Canine/TV Tropes| TV Tropes]] article, aptly describing the experience of reading ''Sonichu''.}}

'''''Sonichu''''' is [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s official life work, magnum opus, and largest contribution to society and culture. To most, however, it is a poorly-[[Chris and art|drawn]] and [[Chris and writing|written]] comic book series about the adventures and travels that befall [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|a fictionalized version of himself]] and his [[imaginary friends]]. Despite starting out as a comic about the titular character, it quickly turned into a wish-fulfillment outlet for Chris and his depraved fantasies, with [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] being a main character in name only, playing second fiddle to Chris's primary {{w|Mary Sue}} self-insert. Other characters include [[Rosechu]] and Chris's many other self-inserts.

The comic began on 24 November 2004 and updated intermittently throughout the next fifteen years, with its last significant update published on 27 June 2019. Chris wanted the series to last anywhere between 75 and 100 issues, although he was in no hurry to accomplish such a feat due to multiple extended hiatuses. Following Chris's [[Affair with Mother|incest]] charges, it seems unlikely that Chris will ever finish the series even if he completes his sentence.

==Introduction==
[[Image:SonicVsSonichu.jpg|thumb|180px|{{w|Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie Comics)|THE WORLD'S MOST WAY PAST COOL COMIC!}}]]

Chris first drew [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] in March 2000 after being told that he could not use [[Chris and copyright|a copyrighted character]] on a class project, so he instead came up with a [[Things Chris has ripped off|TRUE]] and [[OC|ORIGINAL]] character plagiarizing from two of his favorite video games: ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' and ''[[Pokémon]]''. Later, Chris would put his web programming skills to task and come up with [[CWC's Sonichu Site!]], which showcased his various illustrations of his pride and joy. Over time, Chris would draw new characters in his own little universe that were more blatant rip-offs of the source material that he was inspired by, such as [[Rosechu]] and [[Blake]], and so Chris began to put together a couple of simple, single-page or two-page narratives for his growing cast of characters.

For a while, many of these comics were actually focused on the adventures of these characters, with no real references to the outside world, but over time, he would start to put himself into these comic strips. Dissatisfaction with his own life led Chris to use the comic as a [[Chris and coping|coping mechanism]] to achieve a sense of [[Chris and his ego|wish fulfillment]]. Since he was coming up with his story (and nothing less), he could team up with his "original" creations and make things right in [[CWCville|his idealized fantasy world]].

The inadvertent shattering of his heart from [[Sarah Hammer]], along with the expulsion from English class and the confrontation with [[Mary Lee Walsh]], provided the impetus for Christian to kick-start the comic series in full force, turning real-life figures that he encountered into citizens and villains for him and his OCs to interact with. The series initially served as a complement to his [[Love Quest]] as a feeble attempt to link an accomplishment, or boost his own self-worth to unsuspecting prey; after all, Sonichu ''is'' "Zappin' to the Extreme!" He is Christian Weston Chandler's ''only'' son, and the first ''way past cooler'' [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]]!

The comics series was originally hosted on the various incarnations of Christian's [[Sonichu site|homepage]] (as seen in the [[CWCipedia]] archive). In 2013 he began to upload the comics as albums on his [[Facebook]] page, and he affirmed in 2015, when he picked up the comic again, that this would be the place to find new pages. In [[September 2015]] he finally began to sell printed and autographed issues on [[Etsy]] and Lulu.com. The comic was originally promoted from now-defunct ''Sonichu'' business cards, and he has since graduated to flyers. Each new addition to the series proudly sports a "To be continued..." disclaimer page. In fact, the comics are not updated with any regular frequency: in the twenty years since the character's creation, Chris has only completed fifteen issues, even though he has zero responsibilities and unlimited free time. Chris has claimed that in total, he plans to complete 50 to 100 issues in his lifetime,<ref>[[CWC Personal Sonichu Presentation]]</ref> meaning that he's 15 to 30% of the way there.

==Reader's Guide to ''Sonichu''==
{{quote|[[Chris and art|My art]] [[Chris and his ego|speaks for me.]]|Chris<ref>[[I Am The TRUE, Original Christopher Christian Weston Chandler; No Ifs, Ands or Buts]]</ref>}}

===How-to and Overview===
[[Image:Sonichu - Jargon Page.jpg|thumb|180px|The ever infamous JARGON page.]]

To start off, the comics don't appear to have a consistent numbering system in place, this can make it tricky to organize them. For example, the ''Sonichu'' series began with issue #0 instead of #1. Chris also decided to assign one of the books as "Issue #12-9" to avoid associating his Pony OC [[Nightstar]] with the number 13. The book itself was originally going to be "Issue #13", with [[Planet Dolan]] as the subject matter instead. Despite that, there was an actual "Issue #13", but only for a bunch of vaguely connected ideas brainwashed into Chris by the [[Idea Guys]] with no actual narrative in sight. The numbering of every subsequent comic book continues from there. Adding to the confusion are the "Specials", which were numbered separately from the main comics.

Adding to the confusing numbering system, Chris uses a bunch of television lingo when referring to his stories. Each issue up to Issue #12-9 contained multiple separately-numbered "episodes" and "sub-episodes". Due to the incoherent narrative structure of the stories along with their inconsistent numbering system, readers often lost track of which story happened in which issue. For example, [[Black Sonichu]] (now known as Blake) was introduced in Episode #4, which was the fifth story in the overall series and the first story in [[Sonichu 1|''Sonichu'' #1]], which was in turn the second comic. Further confounding matters were the [[Sub-Episodes]] about Chris's [[Love Quest]], which appeared in issues #0-4, and again were numbered separately from the main stories.

Issues #0 and #1 featured [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] as the unchallenged star of the series, with [[Christian Weston Chandler (character)|Chris]] as a supporting character also appearing in the backup strips. By issue #2, the comic had abruptly transitioned to Chris encountering people from his real life in shitty [[anime]] battles. Token attempts to tell Sonichu stories and introduce Sonichu spin-off characters were made in #3, but all pretense was dropped in #4-#7 as the series becomes a vehicle for Chris, as the leader of a heroic [[Chaotic Combo|band of recolors]], to battle against [[Mary Lee Walsh|a college dean]], a group of ineffectual [[Jerkop|security guards]], [[manajerks|store managers]], and later on, [[trolls|Internet trolls]] and [[Alec Benson Leary|other people who made fun of the comic]]. Originally it was mostly innocent and harmless, being the by-product of a simple man with a childish imagination, until it became an outlet to call out trolls, explore his depraved [[Sonichu 8|sexual desires]] and live out his [[Sonichu 10|violent revenge fantasies]].

[[Image:ComicTBCont.jpg|thumb|left|180px|TO BE CONTINUED (c.) 2001-????]]
The comic series was presented as if it were a cartoon or [[anime]] (which might explain why the comics mimic visual effects that work in an audiovisual context but fail on paper), and was encapsulated into ''seasons'' with various episodes (or "series", for our European friends). [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]] was intended to wrap up the "first season" of ''Sonichu''. This opened a can of worms as to the current vision of the comics: was ''Sonichu'' intended to be the hit action/adventure soap-opera TV show that is broadcast in [[CWCville]], or was it the historical documentation of Chris's and Sonichu's life and times? Perhaps it was destined to be the Gospel from the Stay-at-Home Autistic Virgin Male, [[Chris and religion#Delusions of Godhood.3F|''hallowed be His name'']]. Either way, it remained unanswered whether Chris continues on with the series because he has a vain, misguided belief that some TRUE and HONEST soul would consider these as "storyboards" for proper licensing and production.

===Art imitating life===
Sensing some criticism for the self-centeredness of his work, Chris wrote himself out of the series toward the end of [[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]], trapping the Chris character in the [[Time Void]] so that the storyline could focus on other characters. Despite this, Sonichu still served as a strong Mary Sue character, as seen in Sonichu fighting [[4-cent garbage.com]] in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]], as well as the clear Sue tendencies of [[Reginald Sneasel]].

He returned from the Time Void at the end of [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]], giving all non-Chris characters approximately one issue to have the spotlight to themselves, during which they mostly talked about how much they loved Chris and hoped he would return safely. On the final page of the issue, Chris claimed that he would write himself out of the series permanently, giving his characters the opportunity to shine on their own. He went back on this promise almost the moment he made it — issue #10 is one of the most Chris-centric of the entire series.

Following the theft of his [[Medallions of Fail]] by [[Blanca]], Chris immediately released a new comic adapting the theft into his canon and explaining that the TRUE source of his power lay in his [[Amnyfest Ring]]. Since this story was necessarily set after Chris escapes the Time Void, it was deemed a special preview of ''Sonichu'' #10, despite the fact that Chris had at that point not finished ''Sonichu'' #8 nor begun ''Sonichu'' #9.

Chris started ''Sonichu'' #11 in [[December 2009]] and completed ''Sonichu'' #10 in [[February 2010]]. He produced a revised ending to issue #10 in [[October 2010]].<ref>[[Book10Replacement]]</ref> After a long inspirationless lull, he began churning out new pages of Sonichu #11 in [[September 2015]].

==Hiatuses==
Chris has regularly lost motivation to draw comics throughout the run of the series. Without a single job held for the past 18 years, he has all the time in the world and only lacks a drive to create.

Along with the abandonment of the [[CWCipedia]] in 2010, [[Sonichu 11]] was put on hiatus later that year. Chris claimed that the trolls drained his creativity and scared him away from drawing any more ''Sonichu''.<ref>[[DrainedCreativity]]</ref>

{{Quote|I have not ended Sonichu; I only lost inspiration to draw, thanks to [[Trolls|the people online]].|Chris in 2010, on the hiatus of ''[[Sonichu 11]]''<ref>[[Jackie Chat 3]]</ref>.}}

After five years of Chris sporadically mentioning the possibility of continuing the comic, on 4 [[September 2015]], he finally added new content to ''Sonichu''. 11 new pages were added to [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]] that day. He said that new pages would be added "maybe every other week". 27 pages were uploaded in 2015, but these updates were not to last; no pages were uploaded in 2016. Chris claimed that ADD<ref>[[February 2016 Facebook Posts#Bleeding Autism]]</ref> and dementia<ref>[[2017 tweets#Doopie defends Chris]]</ref> were responsible for his inactivity.

In [[June 2017]], Chris began making regular updates to the comic again, completing ''Sonichu'' #11 that month and ''Sonichu'' #12 in October. Chris announced that ''Sonichu'' #13 would be an [[Chris and copyright|unofficial]] crossover with [[Planet Dolan]] but was scrapped after he had a falling out with [[DoopieDoOver]]. In its place, Chris announced [[Sonichu 12-9|''Sonichu'' #12-9]]. 12-9 would be based around [[My Little Pony]] and feature a [[Night Star|new self-insert of his]], revolving almost entirely around ponies.

Partway through the development of #12-9, Chris's work on the comic broke down. Before #12-9 had been complete, Chris began working on ''Sonichu'' #14, which was to return to the normal ''Sonichu'' setting. He soon spilled paint on the first few unfinished pages and [[Financhu Crisis|sold them]] on [[eBay]] for a quick buck, presumably scrapping his work once again. Chris apparently still intended to complete #14, as he announced [[Sonichu 15|''Sonichu'' #15]]. The comic was intended as a remake/[[Retroactive continuity in Sonichu|reboot]] of the early issues. This was derailed after Chris found the fancomic "[[Things Chris has ripped off|Rosechu's Story]]", which he began to plagiarize instead of making an original story for #15.

Sonichu 15 was put on hold when communication with the [[Idea Guys]] began. These trolls made Chris illustrate [[Idea Guys#Ideas|their own narrative]], which heavily focused on the [[Nazis#Idea Guys|politically incorrect]], retcons, and generally horrible, unfunny things. Several pages were leaked in January 2018 by [[Kiwi Farms]] users in contact with the Idea Guys. After months without updates, Chris revealed in May 2018 that he had continued to work on #16, but was hesitant to release the nearly-finished comic now that he realized the Idea Guys had such an influence on it. Sonichu 16 was sent to Patreon supporters in fall of that year.

On 26 June 2019, Chris uploaded eight new pages for a new issue of ''Sonichu'' designed to be a sequel to ''Sonichu'' #16. Two days later, in a Patreon post, he would renumber issues #14, #15, and #16. ''Sonichu'' #14 would be moved to [[Sonichu 16|#16]], ''Sonichu'' #16 would be renamed ''[[Sonichu 13|The Awakening of a CPU aka The Idea Guy Corruptions]],'' (later renamed to issue #13<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2019_social_media_posts#The_Idea_Guys.27_nonsense_was_meant_to_be</ref>) and the new issue would be numbered issue [[Sonichu 14|14]].

[[Sonichu 17|''Sonichu'' #17]] was later revealed to exist, but only its cover has been seen. It appears to be influenced by the Idea Guys.

Issues [[Sonichu 14|14]], [[Sonichu 15|15]], [[Sonichu 16|16]] and [[Sonichu 17|17]] are incomplete, and Chris has not updated any of them for around two years as of 2021.

On 11 September 2020, when [[Discord Q&A 6#Best episode of Sonichu?|asked]] what he felt were the best ''Sonichu'' issues, he would reply with (in no particular order) ''Sonichu'' #0, ''Sonichu'' #12-9, and ''Sonichu'' #15 [[Ego| (all of which are origin stories for a self insert character)]].

==Currently==

Like all people, Chris was at his most productive when he is motivated. The unfortunate truth is that much of Chris's motivation in earlier years came from trolls and ''being'' trolled. He has created [[List of videos|hundreds of videos]] under the influence of trolls; the same could be said for the ''Sonichu'' comics. While Chris claims that the stress from trolls prevented him from writing comics, the opposite is likely true. ''Sonichu'' issues 8 through 10 were all created during the [[Christorical eras#Classic Trolling: 2007 to 2011|classic trolling era]], and they happen to be some of the longest comics Chris has ever made (each one around 100 pages long, compared to the usual 50-or-so page length for ''Sonichu'' comics). After those, ''Sonichu'' 11 was finished eight years after it was started, with no content in it relating to trolls. Much of the content in issue 12-9 is inspired by [[Jessica Quinn]] and the Idea Guys (who ostensibly began their mind games with Chris in order to get him to work on his comic more frequently), all of whom are trolls. The Idea Guys were even able to force an entire issue out of Chris on their own, due in no small part to their emotional manipulation and extortion of him. The only outlier of a comic post-classic-trolling-era is ''Sonichu'' 12, which was finished in half a year and had nothing to do with trolls; Chris's motivation to create #12 stemmed from his burgeoning relationship with the LGBT community.

Simply put, Chris had no real reason to be writing and illustrating new ''Sonichu'' comics, which quite bluntly have always been an exercise in boosting his self-esteem rather than an exercise in creating a coherent narrative for his own characters. The relative [[Naïve|innocence]] of the original ''Sonichu'' comics (before trolling) has long since been lost, and Chris's has generally been less productive on a creative level than since the ousting of the Idea Guys. A lack of long-term relationships has left Chris's motivation for art stagnant, while his [[Chris and reality#Fantasy and fiction|delusions]] festered. While it was not impossible for Chris to complete any of his unfinished ''Sonichu'' comics, it was unlikely he would do so without making a change in his life. And anyone that though that ''they'' should be that "change" in his life would quickly learn that [[Weening#Arguments against weening|trolling Chris is a bad idea]].

Following Chris's arrest and pending trial for his incest charges, it seems highly unlikely that the comic will continue under Chris. Even presuming that he gets out of jail, the fact that he's virtually unemployable and can no longer make money off of platforms like [[Patreon]], which would be the only way he could ensure a stream of income for himself. The number of people willing to financially support Chris has also decreased considerably in light of what he's done, even if he could find a platform that could financially support him. It seems that the days of zapping to the extreme have come to a close for good, although with that in mind, there's nothing to stop the [[True and Loyal Fanbase]] from creating fan continuations or other fan works of their own.

==The ''Sonichu'' canon==

===Official releases===

{|class="wikitable"
! style="background:silver;" | Issue
! style="background:silver;" colspan="2" | Episode
! style="background:silver;" width=20% | Title
! style="background:silver;" | Plot Summary
|-
| rowspan="5"|[[File:Sonichu - Issue 0, Cover.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 0|'''''Sonichu'' #0''']] ''Begun'' 3 Jan [[2004]] ''Complete'' 24 Mar [[2005]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #1
| "Sonichu's Orgin"
| Sonichu and Rosechu are created by the Chaotic Rainbow. Kel adopts Rosechu. ''First appearance of [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Christian Weston Chandler]], [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]], [[Sonic the Hedgehog]], [[Kel]], and [[Rosechu]]. Only appearance of [[Perfect Chaos]].''
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #2
| Sonichu in "Genesis of the Lovehogs"
| Sonichu, [[obesity|hungry]] and lonesome, follows Rosechu home to Kel. They fall in love.
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #3
| "Sonichu vs. Naitcirhc" [''sic'']
| Sonichu and Rosechu go shopping; Naitsirhc tries to kidnap Rosechu but Sonichu fights off his Zapdos and rescues Rosechu. Mayor Chris congratulates him. ''First appearance of [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc]].''
|-
|bgcolor="white" height="10px"|
| colspan="2"|"Classic Sonichu Strips"
| Random stupid stories with Sonichu. ''First appearance of [[Black Sonichu]] (Blake), [[Jerkops]], and [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. Only appearances of [[Metonic]], [[Vamprosa]], and [[Barbara Chandler]].''
|-
|bgcolor="blue" height="10px"|
| Sub-Episode #1
| "Christian Chandler in ''Jerkop-tastropie''"
| Chris is [[Calling Out|called out]] by a manajerk and transforms into Chris-Chan Sonichu to fight him and the jerkops off.
|-
| rowspan="4"|[[File:issueone.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 1|'''''Sonichu'' #1''']] ''Begun'' 31 Mar 2005 ''Complete'' 18 Apr 2005
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #4
| "Black Sonichu in ''Darkness, Speed, & Lightning!''"
| The origin of Blake! ''First appearance of [[Doctor Robotnik]], [[Giovanni]], and [[Bill the Scientist]].''
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #5
| "Sonichu in ''Informal Meeting''"
| Blake kidnaps Rosechu. Sonic and Sonichu run into each other and then team up.
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #6
| "Sonic & Sonichu ''Black Metal Combat''"
| Sonic and Sonichu fight Robotnik's latest creation. ''Only appearance of [[Metal Sonichu]].''
|-
|bgcolor="blue" height="10px"|
| Sub-Episode #2
| "Christian Chandler in ''The Rise & Fall of My Heart''"
| The comic version of Chris's encounter with Hanna. ''Only appearance of [[Hanna]].''
|-
| rowspan="4"|[[File:Sonichu - Issue 2, Cover.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 2|'''''Sonichu'' #2''']] ''Begun'' 24 Apr 2005 ''Complete'' 3 May 2005
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #7
| "Sonichu in ''Anchuent Prophecy''"
| Chris takes over the story as his Sonichu medallion unleashes the power of the [[Anchuent Prophecy]]. ''First appearance of [[Sarah Hammer]], [[Wes Iseli]], and the [[Ancient Leader of the Cherokee Clan]].'' ''Only appearance of the Keeper of the Destiny Cave.''
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #8
| "Christian Chandler in ''Chaos & Serenity''"
| The three empowered hedgehogs meet and fight. ''First appearance of [[Wes-Li Sonichu]] and [[Saramah Rosechu]].''
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #9
| "Chris-Chan, Saramah, & Wes-Li in ''The Evil that Stomped CWCville''"
| Saramah breaks up with Wes-Li as Slaweel the Witch makes her first big attack on CWCville! ''First appearance of [[Count Graduon]].''
|-
|bgcolor="blue" height="10px"|
| Sub-Episode #3
| "Christian Chandler & Sonichu in ''Witch Confront''"
| Chris and Sonichu confront Slaweel!
|-
| rowspan="3"|[[File:Sonichu - Issue 3, Cover.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 3|'''''Sonichu'' #3''']] ''Begun'' 20 Jun 2005 ''Complete'' 21 Feb [[2006]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #10
| "Sonichu Babies"
| The origins of the Chaotic Combo! ''First appearances of [[Wild Sonichu]], [[Bubbles Rosechu]], [[Magi-Chan]], [[Angelica Rosechu]], [[Punchy Sonichu]], [[Sonee and Rosey]], [[Shinabe]]. Only appearance of [[Mypoe]], and the [[Boulder-Dropping Whale]].''
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #11
| "The Chaotic Combo in ''When Hedgehogs Meet''"
| Blake steals the Master Sunstone and the Chaotic Combo unite! ''First appearance of [[Flame the Sunbird]].''
|-
|bgcolor="blue" height="10px"|
| Sub-Episode #4
| "Christian Chandler in ''McAttack''"
| Chris is attacked in the M-C-D-ville by two Manajerks! ''First appearance of [[B-Manajerk]], [[Merried Seinor Comic]], [[W-M Manajerk]], and [[Darkbind Sonichu]].'' ''Only appearance of Super Chris-chan Sonichu.''
|-
| rowspan="8"|[[File:Issue4.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 4|'''''Sonichu'' #4''']] ''Begun'' 24 Mar 2005 ''Complete'' <abbr title="Precise date unknown: sometime before 2 Nov 2005.">2 Sep 2005?<abbr>
|bgcolor="blue" height="10px"|
| Sub-Episode #1
| "Christian Chandler in ''Jerkop-tastropie''"
| Reprinted from ''Sonichu'' #0.
|-
|bgcolor="blue" height="10px"|
| Sub-Episode #2
| "Christian Chandler in ''The Rise & Fall of My Heart''"
| Reprinted from ''Sonichu'' #1.
|-
|bgcolor="blue" height="10px"|
| Sub-Episode #3
| "Christian Chandler & Sonichu in ''Witch Confront''"
| Reprinted from ''Sonichu'' #2.
|-
|bgcolor="blue" height="10px"|
| Sub-Episode #4
| "Christian Chandler in ''McAttack''"
| Reprinted from ''Sonichu'' #3.
|-
|bgcolor="blue" height="10px"|
| Sub-Episode #5
| "Christian Chandler in ''McAttack Part 2''"
| Crystal appears to save the day as the W-M Manajerk attacks! ''First appearance of [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)]] and [[W-M Manajerk]]. Last appearance of the [[Ancient Leader of the Cherokee Clan]].''
|-
|bgcolor="blue" height="10px"|
| Sub-Episode #6
| "Christian Chandler's Backyard Safari"
| Chris gives us an inside look at the Jerkops. ''First appearance of [[ScotPalazzo]].''
|-
|bgcolor="blue" height="10px"|
| Sub-Episode #7
| "Christian Chandler in ''Off-Target''"
| Bagget arrives to attack Chris! ''First appearance of [[Bagget]] and [[Crackder]].''
|-
|bgcolor="blue" height="10px"|
| Sub-Episode #8
| "Christian Chandler in ''Off-Target Part 2''"
| Chris is taken captive, but is rescued by Crystal!
|-
| rowspan="2"|[[File:Sonichu - Issue 5, Cover.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 5|'''''Sonichu'' #5''']] ''Begun'' 29 Apr 2006 ''Complete'' 20 Jun 2006
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #12
| "Christian Chandler in ''My Best Friend's Cherokian Wedding''"
| Chris attends Sarah Hammer's wedding, which is spoiled by Wes-Li Sonichu. Chris, with the aid of [[Megan Schroeder]], saves the day. ''First appearance of [[Megagi La Skunk]].'' ''Only appearances of [[William Spicer]] and [[Sailor Megtune]].''
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #13
| "Shattered Hearts & Entrapment"
| Slaweel initiates an attack on CWCville, leading to Crystal getting trapped in the mirror! ''First appearance of [[DJ Jamsta]].''
|-
| rowspan="2"|[[File:Sonichu - Issue 6, Cover.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 6|'''''Sonichu'' #6''']] ''Begun'' 4 Jul 2006 ''Complete'' 21 Feb [[2007]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #12.5
| "One Lucky Dog"
| Chris's dog, Patti, is transported to CWCville and becomes an anthropomorphic dog with magic powers. ''First appearances of [[Patti-Chan]] and [[Allison Amber]].''
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #14
| "Evil is Afoot!"
| Chris and the Chaotic Combo begin their quest for the Sonichu Balls as Reldnahc makes his appearance. ''First appearance of [[Bionic the Hedgehog]].''
|-
| rowspan="3"|[[File:Sonichu Issue 7.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 7|'''''Sonichu'' #7''']] ''Begun'' 5 Mar 2007 ''Complete'' 20 Aug [[2008]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #15
| "Sonichu, Magi-Chan, and Christian in ''Time for a Ball''"
| Chris learns the location of one of the [[Sonichu Balls]] and goes to get it. ''Only appearance of [[Sammy]].''
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #16
| "C.W.C. and Sonichu in ''Time Hogs''"
| Chris and Sonichu retrieve a Sonichu Ball, only for Chris to be lost in the [[Time Void]].
|-
|bgcolor="white" height="10px"|
| colspan="2"|"Tune in Everyday to Station KCWC for Everything!"
| DJ Jamsta interviews Blanca and Jiggliami. ''First appearance of [[Jiggliami]] and [[Blanca]].'' ''Only appearance of [[Robert Simmons V]].''
|-
|rowspan="2"|[[File:Sonichu8.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 8|'''''Sonichu'' #8''']] ''Begun'' 20 Aug 2008 ''Complete'' 1 [[January 2009|Jan 2009]] ''Revised'' 10 [[July 2019|Jul 2019]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #17
| "Rage Against the Garbage"
| After sex, Sonichu and Rosechu learn about [[4-cent garbage.com]] and go to confront Jason Kendrick Howell over his work. They get a Sonichu Ball for their trouble. ''First appearance of [[Jason Kendrick Howell]] and [[The Incredible Lioness]].''
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #18
| "Spring Break, 2008"
| Silvana makes her move as Jiggliami warns the others of her plans and they get another Sonichu Ball. ''First appearance of [[Zapina]], [[Simonla Rosechu]], and [[Silvana]].'' ''Last appearance of [[Jiggliami]] and Blanca.'' ''Only appearance of [[Yawning Squirtle]].''
|-
|rowspan="2"| [[File:SchuComic9.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 9|'''''Sonichu'' #9''']] ''Begun'' 1 Dec 2008 ''Complete'' 7 [[December 2009|Dec 2009]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #19
| "Date Ed (Even Though the Idea Sounds Dated)"
| THRILL to the wonder that is Chris's Dating Education classes! ''First appearances of [[Reginald Sneasel]], [[Layla]], and Rita Jackaras.'' ''Only appearance of Ms. Jackaras.''
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #20
| "CWC-Defense"
| The PVCC mounts a massive attack on CWCVille! Chris is later pulled out of the Time Void. ''First appearance of the [[Samurai Pizza Bots]] and the [[Power Rangers]].'' ''Only appearance of [[BILLY MAYS]].''
|-
| [[File:Issue 10 Cover.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 10|'''''Sonichu'' #10''']] ''Begun'' 15 Sep 2008 ''Complete'' 25 [[February 2010|Feb 2010]] ''Revised [[2010]] and [[2015]].
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #21
| "Christian Chandler in ''Director Amenities''"
| [[Ego|Chris rains holy hell on all his enemies!]] ''First appearance of [[Clyde Cash]], [[Jack Thaddeus]], [[Lovely Weather]], [[Asperchu]], [[Chaotic Combo (Asperchu)]], Metal Asperchu, the [[Asperpedia Four]], and [[Sandy Rosechu]].'' ''Deaths of Reldnahc, Jason Kendrick Howell, Asperchu, Clyde Cash, Jack Thaddeus, Chaotic Combo (Asperchu), Metal Asperchu, the Asperpedia Four, Slaweel the Witch, homosexuality, asexuality, and Simonla.''
|-
| rowspan="3"|[[File:Issue 11 Cover.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 11|'''''Sonichu'' #11''']] ''Begun'' 13 [[August 2009|Aug 2009]] ''Complete'' 30 [[June 2017|Jun 2017]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| colspan="2"|"A Sonichu Christmas"
| [[Christmas]] is coming, and Sonichu, Rosechu, and their children faff about the place doing nothing of importance. Cera befriends [[Kevin the Jew|Kevin]], a ''[[Peanuts]]''-type character. Robbie and Sonichu help a homeless woman. [[Simonla Rosechu]] miraculously recovers from her execution. ''This is apparently Episode 22, but it is not numbered as such.''
''First appearance of [[Kevin the Jew|Kevin]], [[Stephanie]].'' ''Resurrection of [[Simonla Rosechu]].''
|-
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| Episode #23
| "Simonchu & Bananafunkle"
| Simonchu finds a new Pokémon and Punchy adopts it, causing Layla to leave him.
''First appearance of [[Bananasauros]].''
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #24, Part 1
| "The Clip Show: Catching Up"
| Sonic and Sonichu catch up at the mall. ''Return of [[Sonic]]. First appearance of [[Ferrah]] and [[Dogson]]''
|-
| rowspan="3"|[[File:Sonichu - Issue 12, Cover.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 12|'''''Sonichu'' #12''']] ''Begun'' 21 [[May 2017]] ''Complete'' 16 [[October 2017|Oct 2017]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #25
| "To Be or Naught a Tomgirl…"
| [[Robbie Sonee]] comes to terms with xir gender identity.
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #26
| "Prideful"
| The first CWCville pride festival
|-
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Episode #24, Part 2
| Clip Show continued
| Sonic and Sonichu catch up at the mall.
|-
| [[File:Sonichu 12-9 Cover.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 12-9|'''''Sonichu'' #12-9''']] ''Begun'' 25 [[August 2017|Aug 2017]] ''Complete'' 20 [[July 2018|Jul 2018]]
|bgcolor="white" height="10px"|
| colspan="2"|(''NB – Chris abandons his traditional habit of dividing his comics into episodes in this and all future issues.'')
| The origin story of [[Night Star]] and how she learned to traverse [[Hyperdimension Neptunia|dimensions]], visiting [[CWCville]] and getting to know Christine.
|-
| [[File:Sonichu - Issue 13, Cover.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 13|'''''Sonichu'' #13''']] ''Begun'' 1 [[November 2017|Nov 2017]] ''Complete'' 3 [[August 2018|Aug 2018]]
|bgcolor="white" height="10px"|
| colspan="2"| "The Awakening of a CPU, Also Known As The Idea Guy Corruptions"
| How [[John Yamada]] came to influence Chris. Really an incoherent series of plot threads involving material from existing fictional universes and real-world politics of interest to the [[Idea Guys]].
|-
| [[File:Sonichu - Issue 14, Cover (draft).jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 14|'''''Sonichu'' #14''']] ''Begun'' 26 [[June 2019|Jun 2019]] ''Not yet complete.''
|bgcolor="white" height="10px"|
| colspan="2"| "The Awakening of a CPU: Book Two"
| Events leading up to the [[Dimensional Merge]].
|-
| [[File:Sonichu - Issue 15, Cover.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 15|'''''Sonichu'' #15''']] ''Begun'' 16 [[October 2017|Oct 2017]] ''Not yet complete.''
|bgcolor="white" height="10px"|
| colspan="2"|
| The retelling of [[Sonichu 0|''Sonichu'' #0]]; most of the content was [[Things Chris has ripped off|plagiarised]] from ''Rosechu's Story'', a fan comic.
|-
| [[File:Sonichu - Issue 16, Cover (restored).jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 16|'''''Sonichu'' #16''']] ''Begun'' 30 [[May 2017]] ''Seemingly abandoned.''
|bgcolor="white" height="10px"|
| colspan="2"| "Count Graduon, The Mighty Warrior!"
|Count Graduon's origin story. Chris sold the master copy to an [[enabler]] on [[eBay]] after spilling paint on it.
|-
|[[File:Sonichu - Issue 17, Cover.jpg|150px]] [[Sonichu 17|'''''Sonichu'' #17''']] ''Begun'' 1 [[April 2018]] ''Not yet complete.''
|bgcolor="white" height="10px"|
| colspan="2"|
|
|}

===Special editions===
These special issues were one-offs intended for [[gal pal|specific audiences]], but subsequently obtained by trolls and publicly released.

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! style="background:silver; | Image
! style="background:silver; width=20% | Issue
! style="background:silver; width=20% | Informal Title
! style="background:silver;" | Plot Summary
|-
| [[File:CWCVictoryForIvy.jpg|150px]]
| [[Sonichu Special 1|''Sonichu Special #1'']]
| CWC Holding Out For a Hero
| style = "text-align:left;"| Chris rescues Ivy from the clutches of "Cly". ''First appearances of [[Ivy]] and [[Clyde Cash]].''
|-
| [[File:IvyWedding.jpg|150px]]
| [[Sonichu Special 2|''Sonichu Special #2'']]
| Wedding Comic
| style = "text-align:left;"| The fail-tastic union of Chris and Ivy. ''Only appearances of Spas the Cat, Canino Houndhowl, Lilith, Rachel, [[Ching Chong]], and the unnamed priest.''
|-
| [[File:SchuComicSP3P3.jpg|150px]]
| [[Sonichu Special 3|''Sonichu Special #3'']]
| Giant Penis Comic
| style = "text-align:left;"| The even more fail-tastic honeymoon of Chris and Ivy. ''Last appearances of [[Ivy]] and [[Officer Keino]].''
|-
| [[File:SchuComicSP4P3.jpg|150px]]
| [[Sonichu Special 4|''Sonichu Special #4'']]
| Gun Comic
| style = "text-align:left;"| [[Ian Brandon Anderson]] "rescues" [[Kacey]] from [[CChanSonichuCWC]] (though it's unclear why Kacey needs to be rescued if she's in a consensual relationship with Liquid), shoots Liquid in the shins, and then makes out with Kacey. ''Only appearances of [[Kacey]], Kacey's mom, [[Matthew Devoria]], and [[Liquid Chris]].''
|-
|[[File:Ring Comic for The Captain (compressed from original).png|150px]]
|[[Sonichu Special 5|''Sonichu Special #5'']]
| [[Guard Dogs]] Comic
| style = "text-align:left;"| Chris sends the [[Amnyfest Ring]] to [[The Captain]]. ''Only appearance of The Captain''
|-
|[[File:SchuBlockedbyBroniesdraftP3.jpeg|150px]]
|[[Sonichu Special 6|''Sonichu Special #6'']]
| [[Soft Exile]] Comic
| style = "text-align:left;"| Magi-Chan talks to Dr. Wolf, a creator of the TF2 Analysis show, about Chris being blocked on Twitter by several high-profile creators from the MLP brony fandom, in particular members of [[TF2 Analysis]]. ''First appearance of [[Dr.Wolf]]''
|-
|[[File:ChrisSlimeComicP2.jpg|150px]]
|[[Sonichu Special 7|''Sonichu Special #7'']]
| Slime Comic
| style = "text-align:left;"| Chris's TRUE and HONEST rendition of [[Ben Saint|Ben Saint's]] promotional comic. ''Only appearance of Phantom Horn and Strawberry Milk''
|}

===Approved fanfictions===
{{Incomplete}}
{{Protip|We advise that you don't make [[Ben Saint|any more comics of your own]] to implement in Chris's canon. It makes you look just as stupid as Chris when he did it alone.}}

On 17 [[December 2019]], Chris uploaded a complete set of the ''Sonichu'' series, including comics 0 through 13 of the main series, but also two fan comics that he has officially endorsed, to [[Chris and business#Storefronts|CWCville Shopping]]. Not being derived from his own [[CWCisms#G|geinus]], they are a step below [[TRUE and HONEST]] ''Sonichu'' canon. Nevertheless he has sanctioned them as mostly true to his vision, and is exploiting these fruits of others' labors [[Chris and money|financially]].

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! style="background:silver; | Image
! style="background:silver; width=20% | Issue
! style="background:silver;" | Plot Summary
|-
| [[File:Rosechu's_Story_comic_book_cover.jpeg|150px]]
| Rosechu's Story
| style = "text-align:left;"| Designed by Tricklechu. Originally a [[Kiwi Farms]] project to redeem as much as possible from Chris's [[Chris and writing|lackluster writing]] by focusing on the side character [[Rosechu (character)|Rosechu]].
|-
| [[File:PrequelCover.jpeg|150px]]
| Chris Chan: A Prequel Comic
| style = "text-align:left;"| Created by [[Bryanfrogboy]]. Written as a deconstruction of Chris's life, told from Chris's point of view.
|}

==Marketing==
In his [[August 2009]] [[resume|résumé]], Chris stated that his dream was to "get me paper-published with a comic book company like Archie, Marvel, DC or Dark Horse comics". He finally made this happen – sort of – in [[September 2015]], when he discovered {{w|Lulu (company)|Lulu.com}} and put a bound copy of ''Sonichu'' #0 for sale for ten bucks. A print version of Book #1 appeared the following month. Although his Lulu account disappeared from public view after about a week, he continued to offer the books (autographed upon request) on [[Etsy]]. He made routine updates on [[Facebook]].

A recipient of the first issue provided a review:<ref>https://kiwifar.ms/threads/9-23-15-printed-number-zero-book-now-available-through-lulu.12833/page-5#post-1014307</ref>

{{quoteboxgreen|The cover is pixelated and shitty, Chris really obviously just stretched out whatever resized image he happened to have on his PC at the time, rather than rescan the original or do anything that required any effort.

The spine is completely fucked up, and spills over onto the back of the book, making it totally useless – the bottom half of text can't be viewed from the side. If by some shitty reason you ever wanted to buy multiple future issues to put on your shelf, you'd never be able to tell which one is which. I don't know if this is because he just copied/pasted a book spine he ''assumed'' would work, or if he really underestimated how big the book would be. Probably both. The result is that the cover is one of the worst things in comic history. It honestly is so poorly done and so low quality that if Chris wasn't ''saying'' it was his I would assume this was a troll attempt to make him look bad.

The back cover is significantly less pixelated, but still looks like garbage because it is, of course, drawn all in markers and pen by Chris.

The paper used is matte and looks like the lowest quality/cheapest option he could get it printed on. Someone else mentioned it looks like "draft" quality and that pictures make it better – it seriously is so ugly and the resolution so low, it looks like a test page, and I can't even capture how shitty it is on camera. I've purchased comics from Lulu before, and they weren't nearly this bad, so there must be varying levels of publishing quality (or Lulu themselves has dropped in quality significantly – it's been years) and Chris picked the worst.

So, it's exactly what you expect. Low quality and no effort by Chris other than uploading it. He didn't even check to see if things fit on the ''cover''.}}

As advertised on Etsy:

===Printed and Autographed Sonichu #0 Comic Book===
{{Main|Sonichu 0}}
{{quotebox|
$10.00

'''Overview'''

* Handmade item
* Materials: paper, ink
* Made to order
* Ships worldwide from Ruckersville, Virginia

'''Item Details'''

This is a Preorder of a Printed version of my first Sonichu Comic Book, #0. It will be in Comic Book size and paper format. The reserve price is an estimate, and it allows room for the print set of Book #1, which follows Book #0.

See the hand drawn beginnings of Sonichu and Rosechu, as well as their classic and romantic coming together and meet, the meeting and battle against [[Naitsirhc]], a few past drawn classic comic strips, and the first of a few [[sub-episodes]] featuring the artist/author, years before finding herself, feeling lost and searching for true love from friendship, intended, but finds constant troubles from the past goons of her arch nemesis, [[Count Graduon]] (with holstered help from the witch, [[Mary Lee Walsh|Slaweel Ryam]]).

(Of which SEGA is still quoted for their Sonic characters, but I have my own personal copyright on Sonichu, Rosechu, and everything else therein. Also, any names, or persons, illustrated in any of the Sonichu Comics, except that of my own, that may seem similar to anyone in real life or wherever else, are purely coincidental or otherwise parodic, and not cannon to their source stories and/or formats). Also, the legal page, and the corner author note on the front will be updated to respectively match my current name and other related items. The contents of this and the other completed and future books have been edited to allow the age range to be for the TV-Y7 and above.

It will take me a week or two to put together the pages into the publishing site's template size, uploading them there, and then it will take up to another four weeks for them to print and ship the books to me, so I can autograph them and send them each off to each person who will have reserved a copy. Therefore, the estimated wait time for the books' full completion will be as late as the end of October of this year.

Also, please do continue to show me your support by buying a medal, an amiibo figure, or donate towards my creation and peace of mind cause. Thank You, and have a Great and Safe Day.

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File:Sonichu - Issue 0, Cover.jpg
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}}

On 23 September, Chris edited the first paragraph of this description to read:

{{quotebox|
<nowiki>**</nowiki>Please note: This book is now available from its matching listing on lulu.com. ONLY by ordering it through me, will I have the chance to personally autograph your copy of the book for you. Otherwise, you may go to the listing on lulu.com and order a physical copy for yourself there as well. My price here covers shipping from there to me, and then to you. Thank you.}}

In the second week of October, however, his Lulu account went down, and he had to change this again:

{{quotebox|
<nowiki>**</nowiki>Please note: This is the ONLY way to order the book; I have it printed through Lulu.com (the listing there is only viewable to me); anyhow, I stil have the liberty to personally autograph your copy of the book for you. If you do not wish it autographed, please select the Variation Option of "Not Autographed Book". The advantage of having it not autographed, being I can order it from the printer and have it shipped to your address, but it won't be in a comic book sleeve. And each copy sent from me will be shipped in a plastic Comic Book Sleeve with cardboard lining, inside a large envelope. My price here covers shipping from there to me, and then to you. Thank you.}}

===Printed and Autographed Sonichu #1 Comic Book===
{{Main|Sonichu 1}}

The description text was more or less identical to that for Sonichu #0.

{{quotebox|
$10.00

'''Item Details'''

In this book, see the genetic cloning of Sonichu, with an accidental dose of cherry cola, resulting in Blake Sonichu. Teaming up in the conclusion to the accident in Book 0, Sonichu and Sonic work together to rescue Rosechu from a Team Rocket, USA Division, crew and robotics scientists, Dr. Ren Skysoar, and his robotic creation.

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File:Issueone.jpg
Sonichu - Episode 4, Page 1, Revision 1.jpg
Sonichu - Episode 4, Page 4, Revision 1.jpg
Sonichu - Episode 4, Page 10.jpg
File:Son1p27.jpg
</gallery></center>
}}

===Printed and Autographed Sonichu #2 Comic Book===
{{Main|Sonichu 2}}

===Printed and Autographed Sonichu #3 Comic Book===
{{Main|Sonichu 3}}

===Printed and Autographed Sonichu #4 Comic Book, plus rant against online dating===
{{Main|Sonichu 4}}

Chris veered into an off-topic rant on online dating in the description.

{{quotebox|
$15.00

'''Item Details'''

Contains 96 Pages; Recommended for people Ages Seven and Up.

In this SPECIAL Book, archived and retold are the past short adventures of the past Christian Weston Chandler, LONG Before coming out as a Lesbian TransWoman, during the days of his Sweetheart Search, of which were constantly thwarted by the Jerkops and Janekops, sent by the evil Count Graduon and Slaweel Ryam, in Their actions towards making True Love and Being Sweethearts ILLEGAL and LOST in the City of Cwcville, followed by the State of Virginia, Then the United States, and the world! But the Artist and Creator, and Mayor of Cwcville, refuses to stand down and give up in finding the One Woman WHO will be his One True Sweetheart, seeded from the Ground-Up with Good and Honest Face-To-Face Friendship!, along with new short chapter segments to conclude this set of sub-episodes.

Seriously, though: MEETING PEOPLE ONLINE, Communicating for WEEKS to MONTHS, even YEARS(?), Before EVER Meeting Face-to-Face IN PERSON, which is VITAL and REQUIRED for ANY True and Real Friendship AND Relationship... That is Plain NO GOOD! What happened to the days of EVERYONE Actually being Friendly towards one another in the towns and cities; even In This WORLD? WHY do we have to Fear Each Other for the FEAR and Unknown that has stemmed from Wars, Attacks, and Bad People? OMFG!!! Are we ALL so Bleeding Paranoid that we are forced into a Sense of Psuedo-Autism by remaining CONSTANTLY with our faces looking at Screens and Monitors, with LACK of REAL Eye Contact from Initial In Person, Face-to-Face MEETINGS at a Bar, Shopping Mall, College Library, or Coffee Shop?! Not Only do I, PERSONALLY, Suck at Meeting and Communicating with People ONLINE, ESPECIALLY to Establish Honest and Real and True Relationships in the Trials and Errors that are Not Only More Efficient and Better WITHOUT Hiding Behind Screens and Monitors,... *sigh* BUT I remain Constantly LONELY and Freaking SHY from Lack of Women ACTUALLY offering me their Time of Day Or Interest, Face-To-Face. But I digress.

(Of which SEGA is still quoted for their Sonic characters, and Nintendo for Pikachu). But I have my own personal copyright on Sonichu, Rosechu, and everything else therein. Also, any names, or persons, illustrated in any of the Sonichu Comics, except that of my own, that may seem similar to anyone in real life or wherever else, are purely coincidental or otherwise parodic, and not cannon to their source stories and/or formats). Also, the legal page, and the corner author note on the front will be updated to respectively match my current name and other related items. The contents of this and the other completed and future books have been edited to allow the age range to be for the TV-Y7 and above.

Also, please do continue to show me your support by buying a medal, a custom figure, or donate towards my creation and peace of mind cause. Thank You, and have a Great and Safe Day.

**Please note: This is the ONLY way to order the book. }}

==Future plotlines==
Over the years Chris has dropped a few hints about specific plotlines. At one point he stated, ''"[[Metal Sonichu|METAL SONICHU]] is NOT a secondary character; HE will be making his return as a MAJOR VILLIAN after Book 11 Possessed by the soul of Count Graduon."''<ref>[[CWC Blog#12 January 2010]]</ref> He later elaborated, ''"Count Graduon will be the Major Villain beyond ''[''Sonichu'' #10]'', possessing the [[Metal Sonichu]] that crashed on [[the moon]] back in [[Sonichu 1|Book 1]].''<ref>[[Wallflower E-mails]]</ref> The issue may also move to [[RuleCWC]]: Chris has said that ''"[[Darkbind]] and [[Zelina]] will be fighting [[Clawdorf]] with great sword and bow/arrow battles."''<ref>[[Mailbag 52]]</ref>

There may also be a lack of [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Great Director intrusion]]: ''"After [[Sonichu 10|Book 10]], I will be making LESS personal appearances in the pages, as having done so was a big mistake, because I had got carried away with the [[Love quest|trials and tribulations]] in my life, [[Man in the Pickle Suit|real]] and [[BlueSpike|online]], that it completely messed me up."''<ref>[[Mailbag 53]]</ref>

Since then, Count Graduon and Metal Sonichu have only reappeared once in [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]], RuleCWC has not been seen since [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], and Chris broke his promise to cut down on his appearances in the comic with [[Sonichu 13|''Sonichu'' #13]].

==References==
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==External links==
{{CWCipedia|chris=Sonichu Comic Collection|linkname=the Sonichu Comic Collection}}
* [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu_Comic_Collection CWCipedia comic archive (Episode #20 updates included)]
* [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/Sonichu TV Tropes: ''Sonichu'']
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wrPws-jw9Y Video stating that ''Sonichu'' is too bad to be featured on Atop the Fourth Wall, which reviews bad comics.]
* [https://archive.sonichu.com/cwcville/ Archive of the Sonichu comics via Chris's old website. Comics are near the bottom of the page.]

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[[Category:Comic]]

Kenneth Erwin Engelhardt

2022-08-03T23:14:51Z

Necromaster: Just an observation i thought was kinda funny

{{Ongoing}}
{{Unreliable|type=cred|Kenneth will often claim that he's finished with a given project, but will return to it at a later period.}}
{{Protip|Kenneth habitually deletes his projects, posts, accounts, and websites, and starts over from scratch. Be sure any links directed towards such projects are archived when posting them on the CWCki.}}

{{quote|Is [Chris] genuinely delusional? The only one who could answer that for sure is CWC herself.|Kenneth being delusional, February 2022<ref>https://www.onionfarms.com/threads/just-a-simple-question.2158/</ref>}}

{{quote|What I am doing is pure business.|Kenneth on his plans for his expansion of the Sonichu canon.<ref name = expansionplans></ref>}}

{{infobox Person
| name = Kenneth Erwin Engelhardt
| image = KengleStream.JPG
| size = 220px
|Name = Kenneth Erwin Engelhardt
|aliases = Sailfish Kengle Ken OnionNull OnionfarmsMedia Saturnella Thundersteam<ref group = note>The name of Kenneth's Kiwi Farms account before being changed to his full name</ref> LostMutantClone
|day = 2
|month = 3
|year = 1960
|gender = Male
|nationality = [[United States|American]]
|race = White
|religion = [[Wikipedia:Ahmadi|Ahmadi]]
|education = DeKalb Technical College ([[Wikipedia:Associate_degree#United_States|AAS]], accounting) Kennesaw State University ([[Wikipedia:Bachelor of Business Administration|BBA]], accounting)
|knownfor = {{•}}Being a long-time follower of Chris since the Second Exile {{•}}Hosting the Kiwi Farms splinter site Onion Farms {{•}}Being the primary recipient of Chris's letters from jail {{•}}Making propositions to expand upon the canon of the [[Sonichu comics]], and attempting to make a business out of it.
|occupation = Owner of Onion Farms Bookkeeper Amateur artist
|saga = {{saga|secondexile|cn}}, {{saga|sonicboom|cn}}, {{saga|jail|cn}}
}}

'''Kenneth Erwin Engelhardt''' (born 2 March 1960) also known by his online alias as "'''Sailfish'''", and affectionately nicknamed '''Kengle''' or '''OnionNull''', <ref group = note>Named in reference to [[Null|Joshua "Null" Moon]], the proprietor of the Kiwi Farms</ref> is the current owner of the Onion Farms; a splinter forum based on the [[Kiwi Farms]], and the Onionpedia; a Wordpress based splinter wiki based on this one. Despite the onion naming themes of Kenneth's websites they do not actually require Tor browser to access.

As an autistic,<ref>http://www.planetautism.com/AuSpin/kenneth1.htm</ref> overweight, inept, and elderly part-time bookkeeper and accountant with a penchant for creating bizarre artwork, Kenneth naturally felt as though he shares a lot in common with Chris. While he was initially rejected as a troll by Chris, they have become friends for quite some time. Chris, however, was peeved by Kenneth's consistent replies.

Kenneth is sometimes noted for the dubious honor of being the second person in Chris's life to encapsulate all five groups in the [[Unholy Quintet]], the first of whom being [[Jacob Sockness]]. Kenneth was once one of [[Chris]]'s [[Facebook]] [[white knights]] during the [[Template:SecondExile|Second Exile]] and the [[Sonic Boom]] saga. He then acted as a financial enabler of Chris, and then an A-log, ween, and [[carpetbagger]] during Chris's stay in [[jail]].

Kenneth is also notable for being a genuine fan of [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'']] during the comic's run. Kenneth created a bizarre series of artwork that is based off of the series called ''Sonichen and Rosechen'', which he created a website for. Kenneth also discussed plans to expand upon the Sonichu canon, turning it into a legitimate franchise with short stories and novels, and creating a fan website for them.

Unlike most other white knights at the time, Kenneth actually called Chris out when he was in the wrong, suggesting him to release his anger towards Sonic Boom on something less destructive than vandalizing merchandise, though Kenneth hosted a number of Facebook groups that allowed Chris to release his anger towards the game. He has been an occasional source of financial support for Chris. He bought several of Chris' [[eBay]] items, and sent him some sardines after Chris's [[Destruction Of Chris's House|house burned down]].

Kenneth has later gained notoriety for posting many of Chris's letters from jail on his own Onion Farms website, often without Chris's permission, seemingly as a means to promote the website and other related projects.

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== Early Interactions with Chris ==
Prior to the creation of the Onion Farms, Kenneth was a frequent, though minor, orbiter of Chris's. Kenneth's intentions towards Chris seemed entirely [[True and Honest]]. Kenneth frequently praised Chris when he felt there was justification in doing so. A notable example of this was praising on Christian on some of his artwork of a [[medallion]], having an opinion on a [[video game]], and breathing in and out. That being said, he'll occasionally make what appears to be a subtle jab at Chris, and even outright call him out when he's clearly in the wrong, in particular over the events of [[26 December 2014]]. Despite this, Kenneth was rarely acknowledged by Chris.

Occasionally, he has posted on Chris's Facebook statuses. There was some debate on whether Kenneth could be considered a member of Chris's inner circle on Facebook (as they do have a number of mutual friends, the most notable being [[William Elliott Waterman]]), but Kenneth was often flatly ignored and sometimes treated contemptuously by Chris. Despite being known as a lolcow amongst lolcow enthusiasts, by and large he was actually quite well-liked on Facebook.

Kenneth hosted or moderated two Facebook groups dedicated to Chris's hatred towards Sonic Boom, [[Keep Sonic Original]] and [[FIX SONIC'S ARMS IMMEDIATELY, SEGA!!!]]. Ken once bought a ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' comic book. The problem was that it contained a preview for ''[[Sonic Boom]]'' at the start, which predictably got Chris hotheaded.{{cite}}

Kenneth has hosted anti-bullying forums in the past, on Sonichu.org and Spergweb.com. Technical issues (caused by his unfamiliarity with forum design) and trolling forced these off the Internet. While Chris did express interest in his idea of making a fan-site, this did not materialize due to Kenneth's unfamiliarity with Dreamweaver.

[[File:ChrisTest.png|thumb|Chris questioning Kenneth's loyalty]]

Kenneth was responding to Chris so frequently that Chris decided to create a test on Twitter on 25 May 2018, seeing if he would reply to his message. Predictably, Kenneth did reply to the message, to which Chris showed annoyance.<ref>{{Cite farms|thread=43497}}</ref>


==Financial Support Towards Chris==

Kenneth bought several of Chris' [[eBay]] items, and sent him some sardines after Chris's [[Destruction Of Chris's House|house burned down]]. Kenneth also sent a message to [[Jessica Quinn]] on February 2016 to suggest to Chris to mutally exchange $10 giftcards.<ref>{{cite farms|thread=1869|post=1287650}}</ref>

On [[May 2018|May 2, 2018]], Chris listed a spare [[Son-Chu|Sonichu]] [[2018_Sales_Listings#Extra_Sonichu_license_plate|license plate]] on eBay. Since license plates may be considered DMV property, [[May_2018_social_media_posts#Kenneth_Englehardt_BTFO|Kenneth asked Chris if he got permission to sell it from the DMV]], which prompted Chris to ask him to stop, to which Kenneth agreed. Two days later, on May 4, 2018, somebody suggested to Chris that his donations dropping could be Patreon taking a 50% cut, which Kenneth said was outrageous. This prompted Chris to call Kenneth outrageous and tell him not to comment on his posts anymore or Chris would unfriend him, but he told Kenneth that he is still allowed to [[Financhu Crisis|donate]] [[Chris and reality|to]] [[Chris and his Ego|Chri]][[Chris and negotiation|s's]] [[Chris and money|Patreon]] if he chooses. Kenneth, having finally had enough, told Chris that friendships don't work like that and said goodbye, suggesting that he was done with Chris.

Not too long after, Kenneth replied to Chris's tweet begging for money:

{{quoteboxonion|Have you considered a project manager? They can help with work layout, publicity, the bottom line and so forth.}}

Chris replied with:

{{quotebox|If I had even remotely Knew of such a Manager YEARS ago, I seriously would have done that sooner. Eeyup.}}

==Sonichen and Rosechen==
{{quote|On a misfit planet, it takes a square peg in a round hole to fit in|The slogan of the Sonichen art}}

[[File:KennethAutograph.jpg|thumb|An autograph Kenneth received from Chris for his Sonichen art]]

Kenneth is well-known for his artwork, '''Sonichen and Rosechen'''. Kenneth remains the only person on record to have made a Sonichu-derivative website, though the website has been dead since 2018.

It is not known what Chris thought of this parody, but according to Kenneth himself, Chris initially viewed the series hostilly, but now takes a more neutral stance. Kenneth attempted to suggest to Chris of him taking over the canon of Sonichu while he was incarcerated. Kenneth had the idea to expand upon the canon of the series, which would have included novels and short stories, as well as implementing some of his own Sonichen characters into the lore. However, Chris disagreed with doing such a crossover.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 19 January 2022]]</ref><ref>[https://www.onionfarms.com/threads/chris-chan-letter-january-21-2022-to-kengle-rejects-merger-of-sonichu-rosechu-with-sonichen-rosechen-has-an-intense-meltdown.2136/ Chris Chan Letter January 21, 2022 to Kengle - Rejects Merger of Sonichu & Rosechu With Sonichen & Rosechen: Has an Intense Meltdown] ([https://archive.ph/3o779 archive])</ref>

Kenneth has written the following post on his Sonichen website on an unspecified date, but presumed to be no later than 2014.<ref>{{Cite farms|thread=1869|post=378631}}</ref>

{{quoteboxonion|'''What inspired Sonichen and Rosechen?''' Like many people I came across the well known Sonichu comic series by Christian Weston Chandler. The idea of drawing a webcomic inspired me on developing my art skills.

'''Did Christian Weston Chandler collaborate with you in developing Sonichen and Rosechen?''' No. I have always been the sole creator of Sonichen and Rosechen.

'''Is there any official connection between Sonichu and Rosechu & Sonichen and Rosechen?''' No. Sonichen and Rosechen is completely independent.

'''Is Christian Weston Chandler aware of Sonichen and Rosechen?''' Yes, he has been aware of it for a long time. However, exactly how long is not known.

'''What was the historical relationship between Christian Weston Chandler (Sonchu and Rosechu's Creator) and Kenneth Engelhardt (Sonichen and Rosechen's Creator) in a brief paragraph?''' Shortly after Christian placed a follow button on his Facebook page, Kenneth along with many other people began following Christian's public posts. There was a period of initial hostility during late 2013 when a Facebook block was in place from September till the end of the year. However, connections were not entirely cut, there were a couple of scattered communications during this time. At the beginning of 2014, there was a reconciliation via a third party with the block coming to an end. After the tragic fire at Christian's house in 2014, there was a care package consisting of several board games, sardines, trail mix, and white tube socks that was mailed out with Christian publicly thanking Kenneth on his timeline. Relations between the two parties improved significantly after a series of private communications between Christian and Kenneth during the summer of 2014. After a very brief Facebook connection in July, the two parties reconnected officially on Facebook on October 14, 2014.

'''How does Christian feel about Sonichen and Rosechen?''' Initially hostile to Sonichen and Rosechen, this perception has eased up. While there has never been an official statement by Christian concerning Sonichen and Rosechen, the best guess is that his position is sort of a guarded neutral stance.

'''Is Sonichen and Rosechen connected with Sonichu.com or kiwifarms.net?''' No. It is not affiliated in any capacity with the cwckipedia and never has been.

'''What position is taken by the Cwckiforum in regards to Sonichen and Rosechen?''' Based on various threads posted in the forums by the administrators/moderators, the present official stance is hostility and there is a ban on both the author as well as the web-comic.
What is your position on the Cwckiforums/Sonichu.com? Their mission statement is as follows: "CWCki is a wiki dedicated to Christian Weston Chandler. Its mission is to serve as the ultimate repository of information about Chris, both to aid trolls in trolling him and to inform the Internet at large of Chris's singular grotesqueness" I don't agree with their purpose. The philosophy behind this website is just plain wrong.
Are Cwcki-forumers/chaners allowed to follow or friend you? Yes. An official stance by the forums doesn't necessarily reflect the opinions of individual forumers, Membership on the forums is not necessarily a bar to following or friending me. For the most part, I don't see significant differences on my friends list between forumers and non-forumers.}}

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==Relationships with the CWCsphere==

===Feud with the Kiwi Farms===

Kenneth created an account on the Kiwi Farms on 16 May 2015 under the name '''Thundersteam'''.

Kenneth was temporarily banned from the Kiwi Farms because he seemed not to comprehend that there are mean people on the Internet, and instead believed that everyone is genuinely interested in Chris as a cool famous Internet dude who everyone wants to befriend. Eventually, accepting the fact that such people existed, Kenneth has decided to go on an online crusade against them. In 2017, he started '''kiwifarms.xyz''', a blog in which he wrote angry posts about [[Pmurt|Donald Trump]] and other topics in an attempt to divert attention from the real Kiwi Farms to himself. This attempt evidently failed.

Kenneth habitually emailed Null under 10 different addresses and buying merchandise from Kiwi Farms just so that he can contact Null.<ref>{{Cite farms|writer=Null|thread=1869|post=10403519}}</ref> Null was annoyed by this, and threatened to call authorities on him if he didn't stop. This progressed to the point where he was get banned from the website a second time.<ref>{{Cite farms|thread=1869|post=10455751}}</ref>

==Ownership of Onion Farms==

Kenneth created the website '''Onion Farms''' in its current incarnation in 2019 as a splinter site of the lolcow forum [[Kiwi Farms]], claiming it to be an alternative. The website's namesake comes from how the site was intended for covering "layers of drama and gossip". The website was also created as a gossip site for lolcows, though Kenneth planned for the site to focus on international lolcows. Additionally, Kenneth had the idea of providing more attention on people he deemed as "celebrities" to be potential subjects, with celebrities having less than 200,000 followers being deemed "lesser lolcows". <ref>[https://www.lolcow.org/threads/kenneth-erwin-engelhardt-kengle-sailfish-onionnull-godzilla-the-big-onion.5/ lolcow.org thread on Kenneth]</ref>

On the forum, Chris has a discussion board of his own, much like on the Kiwi Farms. Most of the threads found on this board were created for the letters that Kenneth received from Chris. The rest of the board primarily consists of threads centered around orbiters of Chris and updates regarding Kenneth's interactions with Chris. Kenneth created a thread about Chris on 4 September 2020.<ref>{{Cite onion|thread=1239}}</ref>

===Controversies surrounding the Onion Farms===

[[Naught]], previously a frequent poster on the Onion Farms, was promoted as an administrator on the website. Naught had claimed that this was due to the creation of the [[Watchmen]] article. Kenneth received complaints by orbiters for this decision due to Naught's controversial online activities.

[[File:OnionLoliconBoard.png|thumb|200px|left|A screencap of the lolicon board before getting deleted]]
A discussion board dedicated to lolicon and shotacon was created on the website.<ref>{{Cite farms|thread=1869|post=10450419}}</ref> Kenneth posted several times on this board, even creating four threads regarding the legality of lolicon, which led to allegations being made that Kenneth is a pedophile. Kenneth then deleted the subforum and created a thread apologizing for its creation.<ref>[https://www.onionfarms.com/threads/ive-deleted-the-lolicon-forum-and-public-apology.1930/ I've deleted the lolicon forum and Public Apology] ([https://archive.ph/wip/0EuiA archive])</ref>

==Jail Saga==

===Jail Letters===

Kenneth claims that he became aware of Chris's arrest after watching [[Ethan Ralph]]'s livestream of the arrest.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdx6IRgBxyM Skip to the 11:06 timestamp]</ref> He used his Onion Farms website as a host for posting a good number of the known letters that Chris sent from Jail. Kenneth initiated communication with Chris via a letter sometime before [[October 2021]], as he was curious as to how Chris was doing in jail.<ref>[https://www.onionfarms.com/threads/christine-weston-chandler-has-mailed-me-surprise-package.1795/ Christine Weston Chandler Has Mailed Me - Surprise Package] ([https://archive.ph/wip/OdDIO archive])</ref> Chris first contacted Kenneth via letter on [[Jail Letter - 4 October 2021|4 October 2021]], in which he declared that he is Jesus of Nazareth, like he has with [[Null]]. Since then, Kenneth has been communicating with Chris via letter. However, Kenneth also confirmed in a livestream that he had never given Chris his phone number.

Chris appeared to see Kenneth as trustworthy to host letters and calls involving him while he is in Jail. He directed the financial enabler Zombo to Kenneth's website in order to provide [[Chris_and_money#Begging|monetary donations]] to him.

Chris told Kenneth not to share letters on many occasions that he gave to him online, or to only share portions of letters he's received. Kenneth has obliged these requests; For a letter detailing [[Barb|Barb's]] car accident, Kenneth only posted the envelope and a portion of the letter on the Onion Farms. However, several people were able to decipher chunks of the letter through image manipulation, as much of the writing on the back of the page that Kenneth shared had bled through. Noticing this, Kenneth went through several measures to hide portions of the letters he was forbidden to share, including whiting out the blank spaces of the scans he took of the pages. After this failed, Kenneth then shared in full the last of the letters that he previously concealed, including a letter that contained the names of Chris's relatives. He did, however, censor their names.

After Chris was transferred from Central Virginia Regional Jail to an undisclosed location, Kenneth claimed he would cut all ties with Chris.

===Kenneth Strikes Back===

{{quote|Please post this on kiwifarms. I am not holding back or being unfair. We've have gotten some pretty amazing content from what CWC chooses to share. But she calls the shots and there are people who write her telling what has been posted on Onionfarms.|Kenneth prompting people lurking on his site to tell people on Kiwi Farms about content from Chris he farmed.<ref>[https://www.onionfarms.com/threads/message-to-kiwifarms.2369/#post-34673 Message to Kiwifarms] ([https://archive.ph/wip/uN5Pb archive])</ref>}}

After Chris was transferred back to [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]] Kenneth decided to initiate letters back to Chris,<ref>[https://www.onionfarms.com/threads/may-11-2022-cwc-jail-letter-envelope.2347/#post-34422 An Onion Farms post where Kenneth admits to initiating the 11 May 2022 Letter] ([https://archive.ph/wip/ddVDh archive])</ref> despite saying that he'd cut ties with Chris and not heed his words. He once again agreed to censor certain letters. Kenneth held to this promise by not leaking one of the letters in full, but instead summarizing the major points of one of the letters he was told not to share.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 25 May 2022]]</ref> Kenneth believes that he was advised against this due to people reading portions of letters through image manipulation.

On 30 May 2022, Kenneth made a thread on Onion Farms in which he told people to post on the Kiwi Farms. In the post, he talks about people that have been telling Chris via letter about the letters he has been posting on Onion Farms, and how people were able to read them despite his efforts to redact information. [[Null]] responded to this with "It took 9 years, but Kengle finally has a way to use Chris to get attention that nobody can interfere with. Congrats, big boy."<ref>{{Cite farms|thread=102598|post=12032938}}</ref>

Kenneth had stated in a 26 July 2022 Onion Farms post that he, along with several other people, have been trying to help Chris through with his current legal matters.<ref>{{Cite onion|writer=Sailfish|thread=2621}}</ref>

===Livestreams===
{{Main|Onion Farms Livestreams}}

Kenneth proposed the idea of making livestreams on the Onion Farms in lieu of [[Null|Null's]] ''Mad at the Internet'' livestreams.

Kenneth then three interviews with a YouTuber who read several of the letters that Chris sent Kenneth, where they discussed how communications between him and Chris typically went.

=== Sonichu "Base" ===
In [[Jail Letter - 14 July 2022]], Kenneth mentioned plans to collaborate with [[Helena Fiorenza]] to help Chris build a ''Sonichu'' base, claiming that he planned to treat this as a business.<ref name = expansionplans>{{Cite onion|writer=Sailfish|thread=2591|post=36556}}</ref> Kenneth later elaborated that this Sonichu base was meant to be an endevor to expand upon the Sonichu universe, though he also mentions potential public image issues that he would face.<ref>{{cite onion|writer=Sailfish|thread=2591|post=36580}}</ref>

Chris stated in another letter that he wanted to start a $150,000 fundraiser with Kenneth and Helena to move Barb out of 14BLC, to which neither Kenneth or Helena had agreed in providing Chris for. Kenneth had announced in a tweet later on that Chris had been sent to a grand jury to be charged with potential felonies for incest. Following [[Jail Letter - 22 July 2022 (2)|another letter]] where Chris states that he believes Barb should be dead by now, Kenneth states that he, Helena and Eels and the Egg-man have all agreed to continue on with the planned "Sonichu Base", but without Chris's involvement. Kenneth had written the following in an Onion Farms post, where he explains further plans to develop onto the base, clarifying that he intends to develop a fanbase for the comics:

{{quoteboxonion|The Sonichu rebirth (makeover project) will go ahead. Eels and Helena are on board with this as well as another individual. We are all in agreement about Chris Chan. He is gone, out the door.}}

To which [[Naught]] follows this with:

{{quoteboxnavy|Lol, but cwcs involvement was the only thing that distinguished your remake of sonichu from every other failfags attempt at the very same thing.}}

Kenneth then replies with:

{{quoteboxonion|We are in the process of building a community.}}

==Gallery==

===Art made by Kenneth===
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==External Links==
* [https://www.onionfarms.com/ Kenneth's ''Onion Farms'' website.] ([https://archive.ph/wip/CwWB6 archive])
* [https://twitter.com/kengel_online Kenneth's Twitter]
* [https://kiwifarms.net/members/kenneth-erwin-engelhardt.6454/ Kenneth's Kiwi Farms account] (banned)
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20170722002953/https://www.kennethengelhardt.com/ An archived version of Ken's official website] (Died in mid 2018)

==See Also==
*[[Kiwi Farms]] - The basis of Kenneth's Onion Farms forum
*[[Null]]
*[[Onion Farms Livestreams]]

{{Notes}}
{{References}}

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{{SecondExile}}
{{SonicBoomSaga}}
{{PrisonSaga}}
{{Fantasies}}
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Jail Letter - 22 July 2022 (2)

2022-08-03T12:10:07Z

Necromaster: Made a more reasonable edit rather than "DONT SAY THAT THING WE DONT LIKE!"

{{Protip| While the letter does strongly imply that Chris prioritizes getting home over his mothers survival, there is no actual evidence that he wishes to do any sort of physical harm to her.}}

On 22 July 2022, Chris had sent a '''seventeenth letter''' to [[Kenneth Engelhardt]] in jail.

It takes the form of an [[wikipedia:open letter|open letter]] to the fans. Notable points include:
*Chris promises not to leak the addresses of anyone who wrote to him in jail
*Chris again claims that the purpose of his "[[soul bonding]]" with Barb was to guide her to her [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechu]] form
*Barbara, like a "stubborn redneck", refuses to leave [[14 Branchland Court]].
*Chris seems resigned to never meeting his mother again, having cried about it in jail quite a lot. Chris also describes Barb as being "sickly" and "zombie-like", alluding to Barb's age and imminent death.
*Extreme weather events and the Russia/Ukraine war are all signs of the [[Dimensional Merge]]

==Chris's Letter==
{{quotebox|
072ς20ς2

Hey, Kenneth.
I am enclosing an open letter to the online public and my followers and allies. Please, upload it at your earliest leisure.

Thank you. Be Safe and Well.

''Mrs. Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu''}}

{{quotebox|
072520ς2

Greetings and Many Blessings and Enlightenments to You All. I take pen in hand today, firstly, to personally express my humble appreciations and gratitude unto all of ye for all of thy genuine concerns and open-hearted kindness over the past year during this time and over the years. During the time, I have received Positive and Good Vibe letters from over a Hundred of ye all. I also put in writing that I shall never ever reveal or share Anyone's names and/or addresses from all of that; never online anywhere, never in the publishing of my in-jail [[Goddess Log]] pages (which is absolutely separate from my little address booklet), and never to the general public, period. I also have heard and received the Billions to Infinite Prayers all of ye have prayed expressing thy wishes for my personal safety, health, well-being, return home to the [[Sonichu Temple]], for [[Barbara]]'s health and being, and even to and for a reunion between her and I, and so on.

That last one, second, is also a concern that I write to all of ye about today. As I have stated within the early pages of my Goddess Log, and unto all of ye before: I have long foreknown and foreseen of our separation on [[July 2021|July 30, 2021]], as well as her eventual accident losing the van, and, yes, regardless of I saving her soul in guiding her to her Rosechu form/body, even the passing on of her (human) body, of which still most stubbornly continues to live and linger in the Sonichu Temple with (Redneck) refusal to leave. It... ->}}

{{quotebox|
... is indeed clear and obvious, especially to all with spiritual and psychic ability, that she is sickly, and her passing on is to be from emotions. Yet, again, she still Lives, and zombie-like as well. And this was and is Fact through-out the majority of branching alternate Timelines since [[August 2021|August, 2021]], wherein she Had died in most of themby now.

That being stated, it has been clear and obvious due to that Barbara (her human body, pre-death) and I absolutely cannot be together again due to the Paradoxes, regar-dless of the "Legal" Restraining Order imposed in this Timeline. My Body and I have wept time after time and again in processing and accepting ALL of that over these months, over Barbara. And, yes, deeply, despite that, my Body knows these Facts, yet wishes for the impossible one last in-person moment with her and triggers the tear-inducing emotions/feelings. Pile THAT on top of ALL of your Prayers wishing for the same thing in which it is about impossible (like same-timeline past and future individual being together in the same time frame without a travesty befalling the Past-Tense version in Paradox ruling), with and alongside the Facts of this Timeine; it's belaboring the eventual need-to-happens, thus manifesting your WWIII between Russia & Ukraine, the Cold [[March 2022|March]] - [[May 2022|May of 2022]] (With SNOW IN APRIL in Virginia), and the Sun of Righteousness alongside the original Sun, itself, bringing on record-breaking Heat Temperatures and such; HOW ARE YE NOT WOKE BY NOW?!! -> (2)}}

{{quotebox|
(2) Anyway, while the months, up til after [[June 2022|June 11, 2022]], have been a Lot easier on Body and I (as you'll read later in the published Goddess Log pages), in recent weeks, Body has become feeling frustrated, while also remaining Faithful and vigilant (how could she not, for we have all the Godly and metaphysical experiences from our workings). The frustration is not great, to say the least. We shall feel better upon returning Home to the Sonichu Temple and getting things in better order, with help from our friends and allies, local and in person by our personal request and prayer, then and onward doing everything and more for (and with) ye all as better individual and Goddess.

Please, Keep prayer and faith in our return Home, without or with Barbara there.

Thank ye all, and Be Safe and Well with my Blessings and the healing from the wings of the Sun of Righteousness

Lots of Love and Gratefulness,

Mrs. Jesus Christine Weston Chandler Sonichu, the Goddess Blue Heart, the one Avatar, thy Lord, Messiah, Savior, and God of all.}}

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Chris and death

2022-07-31T07:54:32Z

Necromaster:

{{Quote|And dying is not happening with me; I'm set to stay alive for thousands of years.|Chris being absolutely delusional on [[Discord]].<ref name=deathcope>[[November 2019 Arbitarch CWC Alliance chats#Chris thinks he'll live for thousands of years]]</ref>}}

[[Image:PattiLuv.jpg|thumb|Rest in peace...?]]

'''Death''' is a concept that Chris has a notably hard time understanding and/or [[coping]] with, be it the death of a [[Bob Chandler|human]] or an [[Patti Chandler|animal]], or even an [[imaginary friend]]. While Chris certainly has the capacity to grieve, and has undergone several periods of grieving in his life in response to deaths in his family, his other reactions towards deaths are considerably more perplexing.

His poor reactions to death most likely come from Chris's near-inability to empathize (a common symptom of [[autism]]), and childish thought patterns. Children often don't understand death, usually just thinking it's "like sleeping forever", "just leaving", or in Chris's mind, "merged with their counterpart from [[C-197]]." Chris, being a child inside, can only resort to these clumsy analogies to understand death.

==Family==

===Various ancestors===
Chris claimed that, at Aunt Corrina's funeral, his ancestors wished him a safe [[Ohio trip|trip to Ohio]] to meet Julie.<ref>[[Jackie Chat 7]]</ref>

===Aunt Corrina (1934–2009)===
When Chris informed [[Julie]] that his [[Aunt Corrina]] was dying, Julie insisted that Chris visit her in the hospital, which Chris had not considered doing. He asked Barb about visiting her and she dissuaded him. He did get the chance to tell Corrina that he loved her over the phone before she died.<ref>[[BlueSpike PSN Chat 2#A wild Snorlax appears!]]</ref>

Corrina's funeral happened to fall on Chris's birthday, which also happened to be [[wikipedia:Shrove Tuesday|Shrove Tuesday]] (also known as Fat Tuesday or Mardi Gras), a Christian holiday that in some churches involves pancake dinners. Naturally, Chris was more concerned about missing out on the pancakes at [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|his church at home]] than he was about the funeral of his own aunt.

When the "I know how to be sad because my dog died" excuse fails, Chris usually follows up with an offhand mention of his Aunt Corrina. If that fails, the deaths of his many sweethearts tends to follow.

===Bob Chandler (1927–2011)===
[[File:Chandler_Niche.jpg|thumb|The crypt in which Bob lies and Barb will also one day lie.]]

[[File:RobertchuBackHome.jpg|thumb|One of the ways Chris coped with the death, believing his father occasionally comes back as an [[imaginary friend]].]]

After a long battle with heart failure, [[Bob]]'s life came to an end while he was being hospitalized in the [[wikipedia:Martha Jefferson Hospital|Martha Jefferson Hospital]]'s ICU.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20130211071324/http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dailyprogress/obituary.aspx?n=robert-franklin-chandler&pid=153539600 Bob's Obituary] (archive from 11 Feb 2013)</ref>

In an unreleased call with [[Jackie]], Chris broke down sobbing over his father's death.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/black-tape-chris-call-where-he-mourns-bob.1201/</ref> The call, referred to by fans as the "Black Tape", was sealed out of empathy for Chris.

In an email, Chris told Jackie that ''"my heavier cries from my father's passing is really hitting me bad"'', and lamented that in a previous [[dream]] the Grim Reaper had promised that he would not claim Bob until 2015.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 31]]</ref>

In a 31 March 2012 Facebook message, Chris expressed a desire for Bob's ghost to haunt the dreams of anyone who doesn't like him, putting him on the exact same level as his dead dog. While this was an understandable reaction to discovering "plans" that trolls were going to dig her up, or discovering a webcomic that contained what he considered a mockery of her memory, his threat to send Bob's ghost after people is equal parts disrespectful and unreasonable.

In a [[Facebook]] post from [[June 2013|June]] of [[2013]], Chris laments that he had more freedom when his father was still alive, and goes onto complain about how he has to take time out of his day to "[[Affair with Mother|serve and protect]]" [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]]. Knowing Chris, this presumably means that he sat around in [[Chris's room|his room]] playing [[vidya]] while his elderly father did most of the [[Chores|work around the house]].

In [[CLog 09042017 - Mister C]], Chris, while reading letters from his late father, displays emotion over him, tearing up at times.

During the [[Idea Guy]] saga and the rather disturbing events that took place within it; Joshua convinced Chris that Bob had reincarnated as a Sonichu with plaid colored fur in reference to his nickname "the internet lumberjack" (Chris later retconned his design to a much simpler plain red design because plaid fur was too much effort) and turned up in Cwcville alongside [[Ted Bundy]] to defend the city. Using an autistic man-child's dead father to troll them is disgusting enough as it is, convincing them that said father is still alive in another dimension to help with their extortion efforts is on another level of fucked.

Chris to this day still believes their bullshit and will probably never accept that his father is gone forever; while in many cases believing a loved one is in a [[Chris and religion| better place after death]] is actually a very common and usually quite healthy way of coping with their passing, literally believing they are alive in your own fantasy dimension is actually extremely uncommon and [[Chris and health| extremely unhealthy]].

===Barbara Chandler (1941–202?)===
{{quote|I really have none.|Chris on whether he has plans in place for after Barbara passes away.<ref>[[Internet Dream Lounge]]</ref>}}

[[Barbara]] is Chris's surviving parent. When she inevitably passes on, Chris will ultimately be left with no coddling matriarch to provide support for or keep him company, and in the grander scheme of things, without parents. Where everyone's favorite manchild will go from there remains a mystery, especially since it was revealed in an [[October 2013 Facebook Posts#Reality Comes Knocking|October 2013 Facebook post]] that Chris considers Barbara to be one of the few people who gives meaning and purpose to his life.

Alongside Bob, who Chris entered a protracted period of grieving for after his passing, Barbara is one of the few people in Chris's life that he cares about enough to genuinely fear her passing, and Barbara has used this to [[manipulate]] Chris into following orders on multiple occasions; one such instance of this was in 2011 (prior to Bob's death), in which she threatened to commit suicide as a last resort to stop Chris from his poorly-thought-out plan to attend [[MAGfest]] in Maryland that year by sleeping in his car as he did not have the money to afford a hotel room - a distraught Chris backpedaled, receiving only more guilt-tripping and payment on some [[vidya]] as a consolation prize.<ref>[[Gal Pal E-mails 3#Borb vs MAGfest]]</ref> Barbara used her health as a scare tactic for so long that it instilled paranoia into Chris - on one occasion when Barbara failed to answer the phone when Chris called her while out, Chris panicked and called 911 for a [[welfare check]].<ref>https://archive.md/ADVjW</ref>

These fears however have recently turned into a twisted hope for Chris, complaining in Jail Letter 22nd July 2022 that despite guiding her soul into her Rosechu form/body, Barb's soulless husk still clings onto life inside the Sonichu temple; his sudden wishes for his mother to die could be either due to blaming her for his imprisonment (completely forgetting that it was Chris himself that gave out the information leading to his arrest) or that Chris prioritizes going back home before the life of his own mother.

In [[November 2015]], Chris released [[Family Needs to appreciate Family]], where he addressed [[Cole Smithey]], [[David Alan Chandler]] and [[Carol Suzanne Chandler]] to visit Barb before "her time runs out".

In [[November 2019]], Chris posted a tweet where he copes on the mortality of his mother, imaging her becoming a part-human/part-Rosechu hybrid after death, in the same vein he believed that Bob reincarnated into Robertchu after death.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1190686432047837184</ref>

Barbara was involved in a traffic collision on 24 [[November 2021]].<ref>[[:File:Barbara Chandler Fail to Yield Right-of-Way charge.png]]</ref> She suffered two broken ribs and a concussion,<ref>[[Jail Letter - 27 November 2021]]</ref> worsening her already declining health. A subsequent letter to [[User:PsychoNerd054/Kenneth_Englehardt|Kenneth Engelhardt]] on 11 [[January 2022]] claims that Barb "fell lethargic",<ref>[[Jail Letter - 11 January 2022]]</ref> implying (but not confirmed) that she might be bed-ridden as of the crash.

===Chris himself (1982–)===
Given Chris's notoriously [[Christopher Paul Whitney reveal|bad diet]], lack of [[Chris and health|activity]], [[14 Branchland Court|hygiene]] or [[Chris and the Internet|social interaction]], on top of a complete lack of [[Love Quest|motivation]] or [[Chris and remorse|concern]] for anything other than himself, it is generally considered unlikely that Chris will live very far into his forties should he persist in his current lifestyle.

However, there is a likelihood that like Bob, who lived into his mid-eighties despite suffering from (and eventually passing away as a result of) [[Heart level|heart failure]] and alcoholism, he may be genetically disposed to lead a long, albeit miserable life.

{{quote|And Believe Me, IN DREAMS, and even IN MOMENTS within my mind while AWAKE, I HAVE SEEN AND FELT That Death Light. Not only is it the Most Horrifying Thing Ever, but I am [[Chris and English|LOOOONG NOT READY FOR IT YET]].|Chris, on his visions of death.<ref>[[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence#Size does not matter. (CCS)|ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence]]</ref>}}

In a conversation with the CWCipedia Sysop, Chris once mentioned that he had been receiving recurring visions of himself walking into a bright light, which he one day hoped would be prevented from appearing by getting a sweetheart. After the surreal conclusion of the love quest in 2018, it is unknown if he still gets these visions.

In a Facebook post on 30 [[October 2013]], Chris stated that he had become so [[stress|stressed]] out (specifically, over [[October_2013_Facebook_Posts#Reality_Comes_Knocking|the revelation]] that his [[Manchester High School|high school]] [[gal pal|gal-pals]] did not actually like him much at all), that he had contemplated killing himself multiple times. According to Chris, the only reasons he did not go through with it are [[Barbara Chandler|painfully]] [[Clover and Snoopy|obvious]]. This shows just how much Chris's [[Chris and mental healthcare|mentality]] has drained, and how badly he needs the professional help he so stubbornly refuses to get. Of course, this could well be Chris exaggerating and trying to gain pity as he has done in the past, and as his mother allegedly also has (or at least, used to have) a habit of doing. In all seriousness, however, suicide is no laughing matter, and this should be looked at with caution.

In a 2019 Discord chat between his fantasy enablers, Chris had claimed that he is set to live for thousands of years.<ref name=deathcope></ref>

In [[August 2020]], Chris (pretending that his body was being possessed by [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]]) uploaded a [[Chris's Last Will and Testament|video will]], apparently in case his body vanished from this dimension ([[1218]]).

==Pets==

===Patti (1988–2006)===
[[Patti]] was the Chandler family's pet dog, who died in [[June 2006]]. Chris apparently drew a picture of a crying [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] face on the signature confirming the euthanasia process.<ref>[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Eulogy_for_Patti&diff=4455&oldid=4454 Eulogy for Patti] on the [[CWCipedia]]</ref> As seen in the image used in this article, Patti also appeared in the [[Sonichu (comic)|comic]], immortalized as a furry character named [[Patti-Chan]]. This is particularly disturbing in that Chris has apparently decided to deny his dog the afterlife that he presumably believes in favor of locking her in his own [[CWCville|personal hell]].

To Chris, her death is the greatest tragedy of his life, which he often compares to the deaths of other people's family members and loved ones. Unsurprisingly, every single person he has said this to has become horribly offended. In [[Chris's Plea to Clyde Cash]], he equates [[Ryan Cash]]'s death with Patti's, and in the [[Father Call]], he equates the death of [[Matthew Devoria]]'s mother in the 9/11 attacks.

On the 1-year anniversary of her death, Chris even broke down in tears and had to be consoled by his mother.<ref>[[Megan emails, Jan-July 2007#Chris is sad about Patti|Megan emails, Jan-July 2007]]</ref> By comparison, the "death" of any sweetheart will result in a few days of mourning at best.

It should be noted though that despite all of Chris's fondness for Patti, her memory was still not safe from being [[It's not that cold|defiled by trolls manipulating him]].

===Pollo (2003-2018)===
Pollo was a cat that was born sometime in [[2003]] that was adopted by Chris in [[2015]], who had passed away in [[May 2018]]. On 20 May 2018, Chris posted an urgent tweet to [[Twitter]] stating Pollo was having difficulty breathing, and that he needed money from [[Ebay]] in order to take Pollo to the vet.<ref>[[May 2018 social media posts#Pollo is dying]]</ref>

Following a wave of backlash due to how Chris was seemingly using Pollo's sickly condition as a way to get sympathy donations, Chris would delete the tweet. Despite his plea for donations, Chris announced on Twitter that Pollo had passed away in the early hours of 20 May 2018, presumably due to the aforementioned breathing difficulties, and or other natural causes.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20201210123247/https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/998271176710406144</ref>

According to Chris, Pollo was buried next to Patti's resting place.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/998271909816033280</ref>

===Sorbet (2016-2018)===

Sorbet was a cat Chris had adopted in [[2016]], who passed away in [[May 2018]]. In [[May 2017]], Sorbet wandered out of the house and was hit by a car.<ref>[[May_2017_Facebook_posts#Sorbet badly injured, staying at vet]]</ref> Fortunately, Sorbet would survive the incident after Chris took him to the vet,<ref>[[May_2017_Facebook_posts#Sorbet back from the vet, recovering]]</ref> however in [[Solar Eclipse Vlogs#Crescent Eclipse|a video about the solar eclipse]] from [[August 2017]], Sorbet was shown to seemingly have difficulties breathing.

On 17 [[May 2018]], Chris posted to [[Facebook]] in order to announce that Sorbet had gone missing after he was let outside. Chris would put posters with information relating to Sorbet on several telephone poles near the area in hopes of finding him.<ref>[[May 2018 social media posts#Sorbet is Missing]]</ref>

However, Sorbet would not return, as in [[Misc texts#Sorbet deceased|a text message]] from [[October 2018]], Chris confirmed to a [[fan]] that Sorbet never came back and pronounced him dead. In order to cope with the loss of Sorbet, Chris claimed that Sorbet's soul had supposedly been reincarnated into dimension [[C-197]] as an anthropomorphic cat, and that he had since then been able to meet with him.<ref>[[Misc texts#Sorbet deceased]]</ref>

===Other Cats===

{{main|Chandler Cats#Deceased cats}}

Multiple other now deceased cats once resided within [[14 Branchland Court]], the most notable of which being Scamper ''(2006-2014)'', a cat that unfortunately passed away as a result of the [[2014 house fire]],<ref>[[CatKnight Interview 3]]</ref> and [[Liza, Patches and Sylvia|Patches]] ''(October 2018-November 2018)'', a kitten that sadly passed away due to complications relating to pneumonia only one week after Chris had adopted him.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20190501001400/https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-11-2-kitties-are-sick-chris-lies-about-needing-funds.49578/page-37#post-3948697</ref>

===Snoopy (2012-2021)===

[[Snoopy]] was a dog who was adopted by Chris and Barbara alongside Clover in [[May 2012]], who passed away in [[July 2021]].<ref name=snoopydeath>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/snoopy-has-died.95170/ Archive (https://archive.is/mAbEl)</ref><ref name=eulogy>[[July 2021 social media posts#Eulogy for Snoopy]]</ref> Snoopy had apparently suffered a leg injury before he was adopted,<ref name=snoopydeath></ref> causing him to have trouble walking for the remainder of his life. Following a long period of seemingly improper feeding habits,<ref>[[:File:Snoopy, 7 December 2018.jpg]]</ref> Snoopy died in his sleep during the early hours of 14 July 2021.

After Snoopy's passing, Chris posted a eulogy dedicated to him on Twitter. In it, he explained that his neighbor and their daughter helped him bury Snoopy by a tree, making a stone mound around the burial to indicate where the body was. Chris was understandably distraught and saddened over the death of Snoopy, however, he still remained confident in his coping mechanism, the [[Dimensional Merge]]. On Twitter, Chris said that Snoopy was aware of the merge, which meant that him and Snoopy would reunite after the merge was complete. Chris would also bizarrely claim that he had seen an anthropomorphic version of Snoopy from another Dimension during his burial, stating that he looked like "a tall dog guy."<ref name=eulogy></ref>

==Imaginary friends==
Chris is also concerned over the deaths of his [[imaginary friends]] such as [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] and his pals. Since Chris believes all cartoon characters exist in some universe, and he had created Sonichu's, he feels that if he were to reboot the comics, that would mean that Sonichu and his friends would all die, and that they would all reincarnate into their newer rebooted versions.<ref>[[July 2017 Patreon posts#Delay on pages, no plans to reboot Sonichu|July 2017 Patreon posts]]</ref> Being his love and joy, the last thing on Chris' mind would be to kill his creations, but yet is perfectly fine with freezing them in time with his hiatus on the series.

The [[Idea Guys]] allegedly extorted Chris out of thousands of dollars by telling him they would destroy [[CWCville]], which would lead to the deaths of Chris's imaginary friends. Chris paid up, even putting his own [[house]] at risk of foreclosure by skipping a mortgage payment to do so.

Ironically, even when Chris inevitably does pass on and go forth to meet [[Christopher's name change#Leonard Bearstein|GodBear]], he will still be remembered; not only for his life and the many [[Sagas|humorous misadventures]] in it, but for his comics. Thus, it can be said that Sonichu will never truly die.

===Simonla Rosechu===
[[Image:SandyRosechu.jpg|80px|right|thumb|The bastard child in question.]]
During the [[Asperchu]] saga, a recurring theme was [[Evan]]'s legal claims in regard to [[Simonla Rosechu]] as a derivative of his character, [[Simonchu]]. While early demands were for Chris to edit his old strips to remove Simonla entirely from continuity, later Evan consented to letting Chris keep Simonla's early appearances, on the grounds that he kill her at a later date. Chris, not surprisingly, totally lost his shit, showing a much stronger emotional attachment to an empty, one-dimensional fictional character than he has managed for any living creature other than his dog. Finally, after being faced with the threat of legal action, Chris finally killed Simonla in issue #10, though not before she laid an egg out of wedlock with her baby-daddy [[Wild Sonichu|Wild]] (though, of course, the act of laying the egg was never shown, or even mentioned), which hatched into [[Sandy Rosechu]].

Simonla's death apparently continued to haunt Chris long afterwards. This led to him [[Simonla Rosechu#Resurrection|reviving Simonla]] around [[May 2014]], more than four years after her demise. It should be noted that, as revealed in the [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Calls]], Chris considers cartoon characters to be real, living creatures that exist in some other world reminiscent of Toon Town from ''[[Wikipedia:Who Framed Roger Rabbit|Who Framed Roger Rabbit]]''. Simonla's death was as [[Chris and reality|real]] to him as that of any of his family members or sweethearts... perhaps even more so.

==Troll manipulation==
A favorite tactic of [[trolls]] is to [[manipulate]] Chris into reacting to scenarios involving death, a concept in contrast to Chris's childish mentality and thus guaranteeing he would either react in odd ways or in ways that could be used as ammo against him for future trolling. The scenarios, though fictional, were presented to Chris under the pretense they were true. While Chris generally went along with the claims under pressure from troll manipulation, he did maintain some skepticism, such as when he expressed disbelief to [[Kacey]] months later on the [[Ryan Cash]] suicide scenario.<ref name=skeptical>[[Kacey Call 18]]</ref>

The first death scenario trolls experimented with, in October 2008, was that of a fan whose father had passed away from [[Alcohol|alcoholism]]. When asking Chris for advice on [[coping]], Chris briefly replied that the fan will recover from the father's "accident" and then advised the fan not to become an alcoholic.<ref>[[IRC (16 October 2008)]]</ref>

[[File:Ryan memorial.PNG|thumb|Chris's memorial to Ryan in ''[[Sonichu 8]]''.]]

A few months later, another death scenario was invented by trolls, involving the [[Ryan Cash]] character, designed to provoke Chris over his lack of work ethic on the ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' comic; the fabrication was that Ryan had been a ''Sonichu'' fan and committed suicide when Chris stopped updating it. Trolls badgered Chris over multiple chats to keep acknowledging the death, not satisfied with his brief replies on the death being sad. Trolls then elevated matters by having the [[Clyde Cash]] character threaten Chris with revenge over the death of his brother. A frustrated Chris recorded a video in which he tried to reason with Clyde, and put his foot in his mouth by suggesting that if Clyde got a girlfriend it would help him get over the death.<ref>[[Chris's Plea to Clyde Cash]]</ref>

===Sweethearts===
{{Quote|Sometimes I remember her, but I have moved on.|[[Chris]] on the late [[PandaHalo]].<ref>[[Regina e-mails]]</ref>}}

Trolls also carried out the death scenario fabrications using a few of their [[sweetheart]] characters. Chris had blunt responses to the supposed deaths and seemingly adjusted quickly when another sweetheart character professed to be in love with him.
[[File:SchuComic9P75.jpg|thumb|The fiery death of PandaHalo.]]
When [[PandaHalo]]'s character arc ended, Chris believed that her silence meant she might have been a victim of the [[Wikipedia:Black Saturday bushfires|Australian Black Saturday bushfires]] (despite her location being hundreds of kilometers away). Shortly after her apparent death, the [[Julie]] sweetheart character was introduced to Chris. In a Mumble chat where trolls directed the conversation to PandaHalo's fate, Chris said, "It's OK though, at least I have a good woman who's willing to be by my side at this point."<ref>[[Mumble 7]]</ref> Nine months later, [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]] featured a special "memorial" to PandaHalo and a sequence in which she dies (off-screen) in a building fire after saving her "Pokemon", [[Chloe Rosechu]] and [[BlazeBob Sonichu]], so they wouldn't "burn with" her. Chris also "dedicated" all of [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]] to PandaHalo's memory. This would be almost touching, if the alleged dedication didn't wholly consist of how awesome Chris was for using Panda's cover artwork.

The [[Sarah May]] character claimed to attempt suicide after Chris accidentally called her "[[Julie]]" multiple times in a call.<ref>[[Mumble 8]]</ref> After Chris attempted to talk her down, Sarah May went offline still claiming she would kill herself. Julie, also in the chat, was playing along, and did not react to Sarah's suicide attempt in any human-like fashion; yet, it did not occur to Chris that Julie's behavior was unnatural. Chris told Julie, "Well at least I still have you." Chris then made recorded [[CWC Shout Out to Sarah May]], in which the only reason he offered as to why she shouldn't commit suicide was that he would be sad without her.

When the [[Ivy]] character arc was forced to end due to [[Rocky Shoemaker]]'s intervention, trolls came up with the scenario that she committed suicide by hanging after being upset she couldn't be in contact with Chris. Chris uploaded [[CWC "Boyfriend"]] as a memorial, a poorly-sung remake of Avril Lavigne's happy, bouncy pop-punk song, with lyrics changed to be about how much Chris would like women to date him. Chris included pictures of several past sweethearts in the video, making it less of a tribute to Ivy and more of a monument to Chris's failures. Ivy's demise was incorporated into [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]], in the form of a gruesome accidental death, which involved having gotten her neck broken with elevator wires after falling through the elevator floor.

{{quote|Mary Jo is gone (I feel for you), but you should move on and try to find another woman who will treat you about as good, or possibly better than, her. Suck it up, and move on like a Man would. I tell you as a Man who had to do the same thing a few times in the past too.|Chris's advice to a fan.<ref>[[Mailbag 27#Love and loss]]</ref>}}

In a Mailbag answer to the troll scenario of a fan grieving over the loss of his girlfriend, Chris clearly states how he believes a death should be approached by a man (which includes finding another woman right away and a specific lack of grieving), and tells the traumatized fan that he should simply move onto a better woman since his girlfriend's death, not only being completely asinine, but also outlining that he believes women to be [[women's rights|replaceable and possibly interchangeable]].

==Terrorism and assassination==
[[File:Memory-card-15-2.jpg|200px|thumb|A Memory Card noting the 9/11 tragedy, next to the Dark Arbok Pokémon card Chris had purchased on that day.]]

Chris has a very juvenile understanding of terrorism and its effect on the world.

On the 9/11 terrorist attack, Chris wrote that it was the worst day in 2001, summarizing it as "an airplane was stolen and crashed in New York." Eight years later, trolls exploited Chris's childish mentality in order to [[manipulate]] him into making the [[Twin Falling Towers]] video, suggesting that he should mock [[Clyde Cash]] by saying he's as weak as the Twin Towers. Chris failed to discern that he was being set up, producing a video in which he used his mouse cursor to "crash" into a picture of the buildings, while making explosion sound effects, and taunting Clyde. After it backfired on him, Chris recorded [[Apology for 9/11 Joke]].

On the November 2015 Paris terrorist attack, Chris expressed a modicum of grief in his own simple way, but equated the real-life atrocity which killed over 120 people with the actions of a "cartoon villain", suggesting he still has a poor grasp of the difference between reality and fantasy.<ref>[[Chris's Response to the Terrorism Attacks in Paris]]</ref>

At some point in fall 2020, Chris tried asking [[Null]] to kill someone.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-thoughts-questions.49854/post-9662488</ref><ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/reverse-mortgage.76008/page-5#post-7315829</ref>

==Suicide==
{{quote|[Suicide]'s taboo in Sonichu culture. The moment you threaten it, you're not considered a Sonichu.|An [[Idea Guy]] posing as [[Cryzel Rosechu]] talking Chris out of contemplating suicide.<ref name=bad>[[The Bad Beginning]]</ref>}}

The Chandlers face many issues, both short-term and long-term, which has caused some [[Trolls|followers]] to worry that Chris will eventually kill himself in order to escape the realities of life and go to [[CWCville]] forever:

*Chris is nearing his forties, with only lots of [[debt]] to his name, no savings, and no worthwhile qualifications, Chris may wind up in financial ruin.
*Chris gets bullied and manipulated by [[weens]] on a regular basis, and his only friends exist in his imaginary world: Chris’s grasp on [[reality]] is now so tenuous, that he rejects offers of friendship from genuine people in favor of [[enablers]], who play along with his beliefs before bailing out at the first sign of trouble (e.g. the [[Teen Troon Squad]]).
*Chris’s only real relative is his mother [[Barbara]], who is in her eighties and also deep in debt; with no confirmed plans by other family members to take Chris in, there are growing concerns that the mounting debt (worth over $155,000) could lead to the so-called "Homeless Saga" when Barb dies.
*Chris has little to no chance of getting a [[job]] or a [[sweetheart]]; with over a decade of unsavory information about him on the internet, and weens who [[The End Games|regularly]] [[Anytime Fitness|try]] [[List of places that have banned Chris#Papa John's (delivery only)|to get him banned]] from any place that he visits.
*Chris was often blissfully ignorant that his sweethearts and online friends tended to have ulterior motives (such as [[Kim Wilson]]); Chris actually considered suicide in [[October 2013]], after discovering that past events and friends were nothing more than trolls or arranged acquaintances.

However, there are a number of reasons why [[Chris]] still has a general interest in life, despite all the trouble that he's been through:

*Chris still gets positive publicity, such as Sonichu’s appearance in [[Sonic Rebuilt]] in March 2020, and him receiving a standing ovation at his surprise appearance at a ''Sonichu'' panel at [[MAGfest#The_Christory_of_Sonichu_panel|MAGfest]]. There are also several "mainstream" observers who have taken an interest in Chris, like Dodie and Harry Partridge, as well as those who just want to know how Chris crowbars CWCville and his characters into reality.
*The [[Dimensional Merge]], while semi-apocalyptic, is not a death cult like Jonestown: Chris believes that he can travel between dimensions without having to die. Furthermore, he believes that his imaginary world will teleport into the real world, and not the other way.
*Although enablers have not been helpful to Chris’s already tenuous grasp on reality, many of them act as they care about him, to such an extent that they may have unwittingly discouraged Chris from kicking the bucket.
*In October 2013, Chris ruled out suicide, not only because of Barb and his pets but also because of his belief (at the time) that suicide would leave him in Limbo.
*In [[April 2018]], during a chat with the [[Idea Guys]] in which they psychologically abused Chris, he commented that he would commit suicide. The Idea Guys then talked him out of considering it by drilling into his mind that suicide is taboo in Sonichu culture and that Chris could not be a Sonichu if he committed suicide.<ref name=bad></ref>
*In [[June 2018]], when talking about the infamous line "Zap to the extreme", Chris said he literally feels electricity in his body, then states that he isn't killing himself.<Ref>[[June 2018 social media posts#Zap to the Extreme]]</ref>
*The troll [[Isabella Loretta Janke]] claimed to her friends to have a plan to get Chris to kill himself. On 19 July 2021, one of Bella's friends asked her, "I thought the plan was to get him to kill himself" to which Bella responded, "yeah but by getting others to tell him theyre jesus and they hate them and then saying "oh no those ppl are os mean :(" and then he pays me".<ref>[[Chess Club Chats#Suicide Plan Claims]]</ref> Chris claimed in a jail letter in response to a fan's questions that he "foreknew" that Bella had such a plot.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 8 November 2021 (RadioRabbit0)]]</ref> As Chris had likely gained several letters mentioning Bella and this alleged plot before this one, while also claiming to have "foreseen" several other happenings, and Bella is a considerably unreliable narrator, whether Bella actually had this plot in mind or was simply claiming this for shock value is unclear as formal proof of this is yet to be found.

==Dimension C-197 as Chris's version of Heaven==
Following the [[Idea Guys]] saga, which affirmed to Chris his [[dimension]] beliefs, Chris began to think of alternate dimension [[C-197]] as Heaven. He stated that he believes his deceased pets have reincarnated as characters<ref>[[Twitter Q&A]], the Cats or Dogs question</ref> and that his father is "alive again".<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1008449921387778048</ref> He also stated that Marvel writer Stan Lee's soul had merged with his C-197 counterpart.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1062065071654928385</ref>

So sure was Chris in this that he even tried to console a woman whose father passed away by telling her that her father's soul had likely gone to C-197.<ref>[[May 2019 social media posts#Chris Reacts to Death]]</ref>

==See also==
*[[Autism]]
*[[White_knight#Chris_lacks_empathy_himself|Lack of empathy]]
*[[Death threats]]

==References==
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{{quote|Life is a cartoon; we are all the characters of the larger; the cartoons we make are part of our own universe; we're all a reality cartoon.|Chris setting the record straight<ref name=lifeiscartoon>[[August 2017 tweets#"Life is a cartoon"]]</ref>}}

Accepting the film ''[[Wikipedia:Who Framed Roger Rabbit|Who Framed Roger Rabbit]]'' as an [[honor roll|accurate depiction of reality]], Chris believes that established media franchises and fictional characters, including [[List of Sonichu characters|his own]], exist in parallel universes that he calls '''dimensions''' (labelled alphanumerically), '''reality cartoons''' or '''toon worlds''' that are inhabited by [[OCs]] and separated by the ''iron curtains'' that make up the [[Fourth Wall]]. Such an [[autism|unusual]] metaphysical system has been with Chris since at least [[2010]],<ref>[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2]]</ref> and was roughly in its modern form even some months before the [[Idea Guys]] publicly exploded onto the scene in [[November 2017]],<ref name=lifeiscartoon></ref> but has become the agglomerate it is today largely with their and other [[enablers]]' leaven since. This article seeks to catalogue the various unusual, often [[Chris and his ego|self-aggrandizing]], alternate worlds that Chris believes to exist.

==Background==
Chris’s belief in multiple cartoon dimensions existing may have stemmed from the ''[[South Park]]'' episode "Imaginationland", which involved a realm where fictional characters and imaginary creations could mingle with one another. It may also be noted that Toon World is the name of a ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' card, providing yet further evidence that Chris has no originality whatsoever.

Chris accepts multiverse cosmology as objective fact and uses it as a vehicle to justify his belief that cartoons are real. He was likely exposed to it for the first time in the Family Guy episode "Road to the Multiverse".<ref>[[Kacey Call 22]]</ref> It's important to point out that the infamous [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2|second call between Chris and Alec]], which took place on 28 January 2010, occurred only four months after the original air date of this episode,<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_to_the_Multiverse</ref> meaning the idea was still fresh in Chris's mind.

In recent years, Chris has become much more vocal about his belief in multiple universes. He invoked the existence of an alternative reality when expressing his disapproval of [[Pmurt|President Pmurt]], in emails with [[DoopieDoOver]],<ref>[[Doopie E-mails#Hey, Danielle — 30 July 2017]]</ref> and in an interview with [[Count Dankula]].

Much of Chris's modern lexicon of the names of dimensions come from the Marvel Comics multiverse. This possibly comes from a discussion with a Marvel Comics writer in July of 2018, even though the writer stated that the Marvel Multiverse is a fictional construct. It's also notable to mention that Chris was so easily manipulated by the Idea Guy in part because he had invoked the multiverse theory;<ref>[[Idea Guy Q&A#Gullibility]]</ref> which immediately garnered Chris's attention.

In reality, dimensions are not parallel universes, but rather directions you can move in within a universe. Our current reality contains three dimensions of space (length, width, height/depth) and one dimension of time. Dimensions are also relative to the observer, and speaking of the "third dimension" is like looking at a water bottle and asking "which ounce is the 3rd ounce." Comic book physics ≠ real life physics.

==Main dimensions==
===C-197===

{{quote|C-197 houses not only [[Cwcville]], but also the ton of our other “fictional” individuals of the Simpsons, Captain America, Batman, Eric Cartman, Kim Possible, [[Meg Griffin]], [[Transformers|Optimus Prime]], Papa Smurf, Inuyasha, Ash Ketchum, all of the [[Pokémon]], Digimon, and so forth; [[Equestria Girls|Sunset Shimmer and the Canterlot High group]], with the Portal to [[MLP|Equestria]] there too, the [[CPU]]s, and all the many others as well. You imagine it; (unless it exists in an alternate setting, like where World War 2 never happened), It Will Be There!|Chris<ref>[[September 2018 social media posts#Chris explains the Dimensions]]</ref>}}

'''C-197''' is the primary dimension of Chris' fantasy. The name is based off the fictional dimension of C-137 from ''Rick and Morty''.<ref>[[September_2018_social_media_posts#Chris_explains_the_Dimensions]]</ref> It includes [[CWCVille]] and all other creations Chris has produced over the years, as well as various creations by other companies and people, such as [[Transformers]], [[My Little Pony]] and all manner of Sonichu [[OCs|OC]], as well as non-Sonichu examples as well, though only conditionally. The geography of this dimension is dubious, with CWCVille itself behaving much like Springfield from The Simpsons, expanding and contracting as need arises.

====As Heaven====
Chris considers C-197 to be his version of Heaven, an afterlife populated by characters from his favorite media franchises as well as the spirits of his deceased pets and father, and possibly those of others as well.

In a [[May 2019]] tweet replying to someone whose father had passed away, Chris attempted to comfort the woman by telling her that her father's spirit was likely in C-197.

{{quotebox|I am really sorry to hear that about your father. It really is a shocker when someone passes on on-the-spot like that. Apparently, in cases like that, destiny and fate needed him and had plans that are out of reach or negotiation at the moment. But, rest assured, your father’s soul is serving a good and greater purpose where he is right now (likely in C-197 helping out there through his self-counterpart’s body).<ref>[[May 2019 social media posts#Chris Reacts to Death]]</ref>}}

Fortunately for the bereaved, Chris's account was private at the time.

====C-139====
[[File:ACCityFolkSonichuRosechu.jpg|thumb|150px|right|''Animal Crossing'' representations of Chris and his creations.]]
According to Chris's "Animal Crossing Antics" [[TSSSF]] card, any and all realms featured in the video game ''[[Animal Crossing]]'' exist in a sub-dimension of C-197, designated "C-139".<ref>[[:File:AnimalCrossingAntics.jpg]]</ref> Taking this into account, this would therefore include the villages of his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|pre-infamy]] [[Animal Crossing Documentary|Animal Crossing]] [[The 24th Wedding Anniversary Special|videos of yore]].

====Gallery====
<center><gallery>
File:ChrisNewArt4.jpg|[[Commodore]] phone, only released in C-197.
File:ChrisNewArt5.jpg|[[TSSSF]] card.
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===1218===

1218 is the dimension we reside in, consisting of [[reality]].

Chris asked Marvel comics writer Seanan McGuire which dimension number represents the Earth that we are currently occupying. Seanan responded with the Marvel Universe canonical answer "Earth-1218",<ref>[[July 2018 social media posts#Earth_1218]]</ref> while Chris interpreted the answer to mean she was speaking about the literal Earth. Chris then began using 1218 to refer to reality's dimension.

According to Chris, 1218 was inhabited by fantastical denizens alongside humans and animals but was divided into other universes by the wizard [[wikipedia:Merlin|Merlin]] during the reign of [[wikipedia:King Arthur|King Arthur]] [[Honor roll|in the 14th century]].<ref>[[June 2021 social media posts#Money stuff]]</ref> This is Chris's way of explaining why mythical creatures do not coexist with us today.

Chris believes that 1218 and its Earth is temporary and slated to end soon, presumably within his [[Chris and health|lifetime]]. With the Merge allegedly currently in progress, Chris believes that, though he is only a normal human with no supernatural powers or abilities, some powers from his C-197 counterpart have seeped into his 1218 body.

===1C-211987===
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A mash-up of the other two dimension names, this would be the combined dimension of the "fictional world" C-197 and our reality, which Chris believes will occur with the dimension merge.

==Miscellaneous dimensions==
Chris believes in several alternate dimensions, flimsy stand-ins to cope with inconsistencies or to dismiss any conflicts with his safe space fantasy dimension of C-197.

[[File:C-169_SB.jpg|thumb|An artist's portrayal of dimension C-169.]]

===R-687===
'''R-687''' represents the universe based on the fanfiction ''Sonichu Vs SNT'', written by opuscon987(known in Kiwi Farms as somethingrandom987). This is brought up on 9 October 2019 after Chris declares his disapproval of the series and his attempts to distance anything SNT related from his universe.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/twitter-10-9-chris-bitches-about-snt-vs-sonichu-fanfic.62113/</ref> It's described as a home for a "[[Wikipedia:The Batman Who Laughs|Batman who laughs]] at everything from the Joker" and a "one, great massive Mess."

===S-642===
'''S-642''' is the universe where the fighting game ''Skullgirls'' takes place. It was first mentioned in the TSSSF card "Plotted Device", where a robot of the same name was created to house the soul of Magi-Chan of the dimension.<ref>[[:File:MoreOCs6.jpg]]</ref>

===X686===
'''X686''' is the home dimension of [[Kiwi Farms]] user Cedric_Eff's OCs. Known residents are Daedalus the Degu, Derek, the dimension's counterpart of Magi-Chan, and Kepler, a shape-shifting counterpart of [[Blake]].<ref>[[:File:DaedalusCard.jpeg]]</ref>

===C-911===
'''C-911''' is a dimension with another doppelganger of [[Magi-Chan]]<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1192854458365075458</ref>.

===Lego Dimension===
As the name suggests, the '''Lego Dimension''' is the home of the [[Lego]] versions of Chris and other OCs. [[PlayStation 4#PS4 games Chris owns|Having played]] the [[Sonichu Amiibo|toys-to-life]] video game ''Lego Dimensions'', which sees a plethora of licensed franchises interacting, Chris' reason for declaring the existence of this universe is clear.

In [[June 2018]], during the [[Count Dankula|Count Dankula interview]], Chris expressed his desire to visit the "Lego Dimensions". In the midst of his TSSSF card-producing spree, Chris produced two cards for the Lego Dimension [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]].

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File:LegoSonichuCard.jpg|Lego Sonichu
File:LegoRosechuCard.jpg|Lego Rosechu
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===ZX-49===
'''ZX-49''', also known as "The Macbook Pro Dimension" is the home-dimension of all of the OC's created by [[AquaDiamond8]]. [[Kyle|Kylechu]] is from this dimension.<ref name=kyletsssf>[[:File:Kylechu sonichu.jpg]]</ref>

Chris also noted that the dimension has "fallen" and that Kylechu is one of its survivors.<ref name=kyletsssf></ref>

===CS-89===
Home dimensions of ''[[Dungeons and Dragons]]''. Used by Chris as part of his rationalization on his tantrum over [[ProjectSNT]]'s redesigns of his OCs.

===CZ-69===
The home dimension of cartoons such as Teen Titans Go, Pony Life, and other similarly-styled cartoons<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1215832720108064770</ref>.

===H-684===
The home dimension of Isty and Topher, a counterpart of [[Cera Rosechu]] and [[Robbie Sonichu]] respectively.

===1214===
The only major difference between this dimension (1218) and 1214 is that Michael Jackson lived a few more years and put out two more albums, talking about old age and the feeling of veering on death and not wanting to be old while feeling young. He still OD’d at his time of death. "[[Ride or Die]]" is one of the 1214 Jackson's songs. The Chris from dimension 1214 has, for a time in mid 2020, [[Spirit_possession|possessed]] 1218 Chris's body, so that Chris wouldn't have to pretend to be [[Spirit_possession#Sonichu|Sonichu]].<ref>[[August_2020_Watchmen_leaks#Dimension_1214_vs_1218|Place where Chris mentions 1214]]</ref>

===C-194===
'''C-194''' is the sister dimension to 1214. The Chris who was travelling between these two dimensions <s>was slain during</s> escaped from the war between Neo Milwaukee and Cwcville, after C-194's Chris conducted the Soda Rain Holocaust. This all happened in the alpha timeline, though, not our one, which is the omega timeline.<ref>[[August_2020_social_media_posts#Chris_says_Ben_is_wrong_and_reprimands_Sockness|Twitter thread mentioning C-194 and its events]]</ref>

===N-641===
'''N-641''' is a "nightmare" counterpart of C-197 where Chris (as Sonichu) claimed opuscon987 sent him along with [[ProjectSNT]] by force. The dimension is also notable for airing ''[[The Chris-Chan Show]]''.

===Sonic.exe Dimension===
'''Sonic.exe''' was a popular creepypasta which featured a hellish pocket dimension inhabited by a eldritch/demonic version of Sonic. Although logically it would have made ideal trolling fuel since 2011 (the year Sonic.exe was written), Chris has only very recently revealed that he has even heard of the story over 11 years later and has made no mention of it beforehand; unsurprisingly however the idea of such a dimension terrifies Chris and he apparently spent some time using his goddess powers stopping entities from invading the multiverse as stated in [[Jail Letter - 9 May 2022]].

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Chris and nutrition

2022-05-05T12:26:39Z

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[[File:ChrisMadeANaco.jpg|thumb|A soft shell taco topped with tortilla chips. Straight out of ''Kim Possible''.]]
Food is both a [[sex|biological imperative]] and a [[art|cultural medium]] for humans. The human body is meant to run on a wide variety of foodstuffs for a balanced diet, and cultures around the world have created a multitude of dishes using available ingredients, mostly from animal and plant sources. But more recently, food has become industrialized, and this industrial process makes food cheaper and tastier, to the love of our hero [[Chris]]. Unfortunately, this industrial Western diet doesn't always carry the best '''nutrition'''.

==Cooking abilities==

Chris claims that he cooks for himself 4 or 5 days a week,<ref>[[Mumble 6|Mumble #6]]</ref> making his cooking a major source of his nutrition. He has said that he took Home Ec. classes in school and that he owns cookbooks.<ref>[[IRC (18 December 2008)]]</ref> However, when Jackie asked him to cook spaghetti (an incredibly basic dish, mind you) in a YouTube video, he dodged responsibility by claiming that [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] had blocked the kitchen up with junk, so he instead mimed the act and microwaved some canned spaghetti and meatballs.<ref>[[SpaghettiRoutine]]</ref> It can be deduced from this that Chris can't or doesn't cook, and simply buys microwaveable meals every time he claims to be eating at home.

In a letter written to Kelly Sheridan that was posted to Twitter, Chris claimed to have taken up basic cooking skills as a way to keep his mind more active.

In addition, [[Barb]] no longer cooks for Chris after he and [[Bob]] had turned down a spaghetti meal she had offered them<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 24]]</ref>, a turn-down he claimed to have "deeply apologized" for, making it even less likely that Chris eats anything that requires to be cooked, let alone anything that requires time and preparation to be made.

==Fast Food==

{{Main|List of restaurants}}

As a result of his minimal cooking skills, and due to how even the simplest of tasks [[Chris and work|tire him out]], Chris often prefers to eat out over making food by himself. He is an infamous fast food lover, eating at either [[McDonald's]], [[Burger King]] or some other fast food restaurant at least once a day. He has been known to dine out up to 4 times a day. The fact that he's merely fat and not morbidly obese with such an awe-inspiring calorific intake and inactive lifestyle suggests a fairly high metabolism, one which will almost certainly not last indefinitely. The frequency of his fast food trips was confirmed in 2015 when a [[Kiwi Farms]] user sent him $500 to see what he would do with it.

===Some places where Chris likes to eat===
* [[McDonald's]]
* [[Burger King]]
* [[List of restaurants|Restaurants]]
* [[:File:Kroger sighting.jpg|Grocery stores]]
* [[Kitchen]]
* [[Bedroom]]

==Consumption of food==

[[File:Sonic rainboom $500 1.png|thumb|left|200px|Chris visited McDonald's 10 times in 13 days. It's not even the only fast-food place on the list.]]
[[File:Hypnosis for fatter ass.png|thumb|200px|Chris wants to use subliminal hypnosis to make his belly slimmer but his ass fatter.]]

Many, many times, Chris has been shown to be a glutton for all kinds of food, eating excessively in public places and during parties. His complexion also gives insight into his daily nutrition, often showing various signs of acne and acne scarring. His most probable nutritional intake is as follows:

* '''Breakfast:''' Often nothing because he usually [[Biological clock|sleeps from 6 a.m. to noon]], but when he doesn't do that, he travels to McDonald's or another fast food restaurant with a breakfast menu.
* '''Lunch:''' Something quick at home or fast food.
* '''Dinner:''' Dine out at a fast food place with family, or have a poorly-cooked microwave meal.

According to Chris, he eats more vegetables than any other food group.<ref>[[Kacey Call 7]]</ref> The veracity of this statement is dubious, given what is known about Chris's medical history and health in general (as well as his tendency to lie).

During the [[Father Call]], Chris told [[Kacey]]'s father that he was prescribed [[Wikipedia:Atorvastatin|Lipitor]] for his high cholesterol. He claimed he stopped taking the drug in fall 2009, but whether he was being honest (especially given the number of obvious [[List of Chris's lies|lies]] he told about his health in the course of the rest of the call) is uncertain.

When Chris admits to going to McDonald's regularly for his meals (including the time in the father call) he will often fall back on another lie that he only eats the salads provided and drink the lemonade. Which is ironic since when Macdonald's salads were still around they were actually proven to contain ''more'' calories than an average Big mac meal (due to the sauce that came with them); Chris also seems to be under the impression that lemonade is healthy because it has (or at least tastes vaguely like) lemons despite them being just as unhealthy as any other type of soda.

In 2016, he began listening to [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]] videos under the false believe that they would improve his health. He liked videos such as "Lose Weight Super Fast!", "Eliminate Armpit Odor Permanently Fast!", "Lower Your Blood Pressure Fast! Hypertension Treatment", and "[[Fart Song|Produce Odorless Farts Fast!]]". There is no sort of scientific and medical evidence that proves listening to binaural beats can do these things.

In 2017, Chris had a brief online relationship with [[Jessica Quinn]], who has a fat fetish and influenced Chris with it. The Sonichu comic features an obese Rosechu in [[Sonichu 12|issue 12]]. After their breakup, Chris consumed a large bowl of ice cream, then took a side photo of his gut, saying, "THIS!!! Right Here was ALLLLL HERS!!!!!!"<ref>[[October 2017 Facebook posts#Quinn.27s missing out|Quinn's missing out!]]</ref> This marks one of the only times that Chris has admitted that he has [[Obesity]] issues.

In 2019, Chris showed us his idea of a "salad", mostly made with unhealthy ingredients like bacon bits and croutons.<ref>[[August 2019 social media posts#Magi-Chan eats a .22salad.22]]</ref>

In 2020, Chris claimed to make breakfast omelettes/scrambled eggs with ghost pepper sauce or spinach.<ref>[[December 2020 social media posts]]</ref>

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==Jail food==
Now that [[Jail Saga|Chris has been in jail for quite a while]], it's safe to assume he has broken his long standing policy of [[28 October 2011|not eating prison food]] and has entered the regular diet alongside all other inmates. Ironically, this is quite the improvement to his regular dietary habits, as prison meals are provided in equal quantities per inmate and no amount of entitlement will help you get a second serving. Pretty much the only way Chris can overeat is either by buying the food separately via commissary money or donations. Chris has stated that he likes the selection of food items the jail has for sale, meaning that most of the commissary money that he does get will most likely be spent on junk food.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 25 October 2021 (Virginia fan)]]</ref>

The quality of said prison meals, on the other hand, is debatable; prisons in America can have anything from barely edible slop crawling with parasites, to extremely nutritious meals that come in great variety and flavors. In any case, it's probably safe to say that even if Central Virginia Regional Jail is sitting in the latter category, the meals provided will be far healthier than [[McDonald's|what Chris is used to eating]]. In an [[October 2021]] letter, Chris discussed the quality of the meals by writing that the "Food's mostly good and well; not perfect meatballs (Banquet Dinners have better meatballs), and chicken is often dry."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 October 2021]]</ref>

As of May 3rd following his three month stay at an unknown facility his weight has noticeably fallen significantly since he was unable to exploit the "begging for junk food money" loophole he once had access to; time will tell if he manages to earn enough donations to regain the weight.

==Hydration and water consumption==
[[File:Recycle.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Chris tends to drink large amounts of soft drinks daily. Occasionally, he mixes them with [[Navy|a special ingredient]].]]
[[File:Water and Dasani.jpeg|150px|thumb|Chris's water bottle with a Dasani bottle]]
[[File:Anti corona device.jpg|200px|thumb|What Chris actually believes manifests his "powers" in our world.]]

Before 2020, Chris rarely drank water and focused a lot more on [[CWC Cola|carbonated]] [[My Coke Rewards|drinks]] and energy drinks (which have been proven to [[Chris and anger|increase erratic behavior]]).<ref>[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4772143/|Energy Drinks and Youth Self-Reported Hyperactivity/Inattention Symptoms]</ref> This was such that an entire page of the CWCki was [[My Coke Rewards|partly dedicated to just how much Coca-Cola he drank over the span of two years]].

Said article revealed that on many of the days between 6 March 2007 and 4 September 2009, Chris drank about 1.8 liters (over 3 pints) of Coke ''every day'' (assuming that none of it was drank by his equally [[obese]] [[Borb|parents]]), so he could gain points on My Coke Rewards. This represents a grotesque 195 grams (nearly 7 ounces) of sugar per day from Coke alone, representing almost ''800'' calories (1/3 of his daily calorie intake). To put that in perspective, Chris drank enough Coke to fill ''10 oil barrels'' in order to get the amount of points he got. [[30 Push-Ups|Needless to say]], the effects are staggering. On record, he apparently consumed a whopping 120 cans of cola on 9 April 2008, 24 March 2009, and 15 August 2009; how this didn't send him into immediate diabetic shock is anybody's guess.

Now, Chris drinks tons of water from a Glacee water bottle with [[Magic Stones|amethyst crystal]] on the bottom. He believes that there are many health problems that drinking water in this fashion alone can cure. He believes that doing so cures conditions such as food poisoning. While this is not actually true, it's at least far healthier than drinking tons of soft drinks. Ever since the discovery of himself being Goddess CPU Blue Heart, he has used this bottle constantly as a way to charge up his "powers", in order to help further the merge into its future stages. The reason he went with the amethyst crystal is most likely the same reason that he uses his [[Amnyfest Ring]] in the comics as his main source of power. So, therefore, Chris now uses this bottle as a way to inadvertently makes his powers stronger.

==Results of Chris's Diet==

===Obesity===
{{Main|Obesity}}
[[File:Fat chris.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Chris showing off his gut in [[October 2017]], as an attempt to make [[Jessica Quinn]] regret breaking up with him.]]

===Dental Hygiene===

Chris's [[Fangs| teeth]] have obviously suffered greatly during the decades of constant sugary abuse. Several videos which he exposes his teeth have revealed that his molars are extremely rotten and full of cavities while his frontal teeth are yellowish at best and an olive colour at worst. This combined with his infamous lack of hygienic prowess means that it's flat out a miracle that all his teeth haven't fallen out at this point.

===Behavioral Issues===

Caffeine is a well known [[Anger|stimulant]] and can impair ones ability to [[Biological Clock|sleep]]. Chris's drinks all have an amount of caffeine in them, from coffee to [[Coca-Cola]]. Chris is undoubtedly addicted to both, and cups of coffee were spotted throughout the hallway in [[14 Branchland Court]] just before the coffee ''maker'' [[2014 house fire|burned the entire house down]].

===Fecal Incontinence===
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It is believed that Chris's diet is one of the causes for his fecal incontinence (the other one being [[List of things Chris has shoved up his ass|ramming stuff in his rectum]]), as chronic constipation can be one cause of fecal incontinence.<ref>{{w|Fecal incontinence#Constipation|Fecal incontinence on Wikipedia.}}</ref> Chris's diet of McDonald's, microwaveable food, and little or no fruit or vegetables is very likely ridiculously low on fiber and thus a sure-fire way of causing constipation, and Chris has been going on with this diet for who knows how long. Irritable bowel syndrome may be another reason for Chris's problems with controlling his bowels. The cause of IBS is not known, but two major triggers are [[stress]] and poor diets, with wheat, dairy, and carbonated drinks being known IBS triggers.<ref>Mayo Clinic: [https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/irritable-bowel-syndrome/symptoms-causes/syc-20360016 Irritable bowel syndrome]</ref> Chris has given testament to fast-food not agreeing with him,<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Whopperrito]]</ref> However, being raised on a poor diet, it's unlikely he'll stop eating junk anytime soon.

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==Denial of poor diet==

Chris often denies his diet is doing more harm to him than good. In the [[Father Call]], Chris constantly lies about his poor eating habits to an unimpressed Matthew Devoria. At one point, he went off on a tangent about how he stuffed vegetables and fruits down his throat; this was after Matt metaphorically compared [[Kacey|his daughter]]'s book reading to how much candy Chris probably consumes.

==References==
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Chris and health

2022-05-05T12:22:52Z

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{{quote|Eat less [[/cow/|cow]] meat; Grilled Chicken is healthier. [[Pickle|Vegetables]] and [[Fanta|Fruit]] are a must; [[A Hike|Walking]] or [[Father Call|Jogging]] is great exercise daily. Standing helps too; play some ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' on [[Gitar of Fail|Guitar]], you have to stand while playing, and move a bit for fun and movement.|[[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s [[Chris and hypocrisy|ironic]] advice for [[Wikipedia:Ivan Drago|Ivan Drago]]<ref>[[Mailbag 2#The Guitar Hero workout|Mailbag 2]]</ref>}}

[[Image:DecayOfManChild.jpg|thumb|A rather optimistic depiction of Chris in later life, illustrated prior to his [[Transgender|Tomgirl makeover]].]]

Chris, as even those with a cursory knowledge of medicine can plainly see, is not in good '''health''' – physically or mentally. Considering his [[obesity]], [[Power|lack of exercise]], [[Christopher Paul Whitney reveal|poor nutrition]], [[ShowerClean|refusal to bathe]], and [[Tour of Chris's House|the grave uncleanliness]] of [[Rental House|his]] [[14 Branchland Court|surroundings]], he has an extremely high chance of developing potentially life-threatening medical problems such as cancer, type 2 diabetes, heart failure, [[Wikipedia:Atherosclerosis|atherosclerosis]], and possibly a premature [[Chris and death|death]].

==Diet and nutrition==
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Put simply, Chris is a fatty. Unfortunately, he continues to deny this fact, and often lies that he cooks for himself often. Chris's diet actually consists largely of fast food from McDonalds, which is admittedly not unlike the diet of many Americans. He claims to usually only eat fast food salads, but the caloric content of the salads often exceeds fast food burgers after adding the sauce that comes with them. His diet contributes in large part to many of his health issues, as well as his [[Financhu_Crisis|financial problems]].

His mugshot upon return to jail on 3 May 2021, after spending three months in an unknown location, revealed him to have lost a significant amount of weight. This is likely due to Chris being completely unable to beg for money to spend on junk food.

==Exercise==

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{{quote|[…] while my body is Strong and [[Power]]ful, I am unable to Run Fast without losing breath 10-Seconds in [[Sonic]]-Running Speed.|[[CWCipedia]]<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20111128031730/http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Private_villa_of_corrupted_citizens#I_DO.21</ref>}}

[[File:Cwcstrongman.JPG|thumb|[[I AM STRONG]]!]]

Chris has not had any regular exercise since leaving [[Manchester High School|high school]], and the lack of physical activity has contributed to his already ballooning shape. Since he barely leaves his house and focuses his time on playing [[vidya]], his lack of exposure to the sunlight has left his skin a frightening pallor that starkly contrasts to the dark background of his room, while making videos. Also, most fat people have strong, stocky legs, due to carrying around all that weight, but since Chris very rarely performs any task more physically demanding than [[Guitar Hero|standing up]], his muscles have withered away, leaving a body made almost entirely out of fat, as evidenced by his incredibly thin and weak arms [[Sign Destruction Video|that are incapable of breaking wooden sticks]] and [[Chris Loses It|barely capable of tearing cardboard]].

When questioned about exercise, he regarded standing up and playing ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' as exercise.<ref>[[IRC (03 January 2009)]]</ref> Needless to say, Chris is clearly delusional. In Chris's [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|''PaRappa the Rapper'' contest entry]], where he foolishly chose to dance, he seemed to get tired very easily from dancing for a mere 30 seconds and even stopped recording to take a break (evidenced by the abrupt change of position). While attending [[Fridays After Five]] for a while, he danced in public like a stroke victim, then sat down to rest and play some vidya outdoors. Despite this, in [[WelcometoBollywood]] he is capable of dancing in place for over 7 minutes. Whether or not he did this with the magic of jump cuts remains to be seen.

During the later stages of his infatuation with [[Kacey]], many of Chris's videos showed a growing obsession with his own physical power. Chris apparently believes himself to be a nigh-unstoppable testament to human might, and has made several videos dedicated to flexing and [[30 Push-Ups|feats]] of [[11042009 51 50|strength]], performing Herculean tasks such as lifting boxes of Minute Maid lemonade and almost doing fake push-ups. He appears to believe that he could've defeated both his rivals [[Gregg Mays]] and [[Liquid Chris]] should've it to came to blows, and as such had challenged them to fisticuffs multiple times.

Of course, Chris is once again completely delusional about his own abilities. The push-ups and curls he has struggled to do on camera only serve to demonstrate exactly how hopelessly out of shape he really is. He's so fat and his muscles are so small that it's never clear whether he's actually flexing, and the [[CWC Fighter|fighting]] [[Challenge for Clyde|moves]] he's shown us are laughably incompetent. Were Chris to [[I Got A Fish|get his wish]] and physically confront Gregg or Liquid, he would definitely have his ass handed to him.

In the [[Father Call]] and the subsequent [[Kacey and Liquid Call]], Chris made various claims about having taken up jogging. At one point he claimed to jog 5 miles (8 kilometers) a day, but it didn't take long for Kacey and her father to call him out on this obvious lie. The truth is clearly shown in [[Sonichu's Edge]], where Chris runs only a fraction of a mile and had to take 6 breaks to catch his breath, whereas a person in decent health would take a few seconds to jog the same distance without having to stop as often as Chris did.

Chris's lack of muscle tone may stem from hypotonia (lack of muscle tone), which can occur in people on the [[autism]] spectrum,<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypotonia</ref> although it is clear that his poor lifestyle has only exacerbated this.

===Bicycling===
Chris has owned several bicycles over the course of his life, but it is unknown if he ever rode any of them regularly. The most recent one was lost in the hoard sometime before [[2010]]. Chris has made occasional reference to biking over the years:

* In [[Kacey Call 18]], he claims to have a scar above his left breast from a bicycle accident he had when he was about five to seven years old.
* Chris received a bike as a [[Christmas]] present in [[1990s|1995]].
* In his [[List of OkCupid Answers|OkCupid answers]], Chris claims that he always wears a helmet when he rides a bike.
* In [[Jackie Chat 6]], [[Jackie]] asks Chris to make a video of himself riding his bike. Chris claims that his bike is buried among junk and that he can no longer access it.

{{Wise|he would need to begin exercising regularly in spring [[2018]] for him to be in shape while in [[CWCville]].<ref>https://archive.md/1D1ZL</ref>}}

===Anytime Fitness===
[[File:Chris at Anytime Fitness.jpg|thumb|left|200px|A fan spotted him at the gym and snapped his photo.]]

The Idea Guys coerced Chris into getting a membership at an Anytime Fitness gym. In April 2018, Chris uploaded [[One-Hundred!]], a video of him working out in his bedroom with actual dumbbells of 20 pounds each, instead of [[11042009 51 50|lemonade boxes]]. He followed up by taking a selfie at an Anytime gym of him on a treadmill "speed walking 4 mph for two hours".<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/April_2018_social_media_posts#Exercising_on_a_treadmill</ref>

A couple of weeks after the treadmill update, Chris was cocky enough about his new lifestyle change to use a put-down of telling other people they could stand to go to the gym to lose weight.<ref>[[May 2018 social media posts#Mad at Facebook friends]]</ref>

{{quotebox|You are now Blocked. Before continuing to insult me whenever possible you should consider Going to the Gym Yourself, as I feel YOU could stand to Lose Some Weight!}}

On 7 May, Chris lamented the fact that [[weens]] had been calling up the gym to harass management about him:

{{quotebox|You Jerks and Trolls ruin EVERYTHING! I CAN'T EVEN GO TO THE GYM WITHOUT YOU HARASSING THE GYM THAT I GO TO!<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/993696407369408513</ref>}}

Later, [[Emily]] shared information that Chris had been banned:

{{quoteboxyellow|Chris was legitimately getting complaints from fellow gym goers regarding being [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|gassy]] and [[Fangs|burping]] a whole lot. So he already had a strike against him for that, then couple that with [[Weens|people]] calling them inevitably got him banned.<ref>https://archive.md/CKDwK</ref>}}

In the [[Copitz]] interview, Chris claimed that he had only been banned from the [[Ruckersville]] location, and was still regularly going to another undisclosed location in the [[Charlottesville]] area. Knowing Chris however its likely that this is a [[Lies|lie]] and he has most likely stopped going altogether since the Idea guys were removed from power, if he did actually continue to go to the gym its unlikely he could[[Honest Content| keep it a secret for very long]].

===Walking for exercise===
{{quote|Yes, the nature today is beautiful, and it was great temperature for a four-plus mile walk up the Monticello Trail. 😊 ⚡️💙⚡️|Chris<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1052243316274802691</ref>}}
[[File:Dead fitbit.jpeg|thumb|Chris's FitBit]]

The exercise habit from the Idea Guys stuck with Chris temporarily, as he continued to go on walks, as seen in [[Walking to the post office]] and him mentioning that he goes on nature walks with his support group.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1043912418198532096</ref> In December 2018, he purchased a [[treadmill]], and filmed himself using it. For the first time in a long time, it would've seemed that Chris had started to pay at least some attention to one facet of his health. However, only a few months later, it appears that he has left his treadmill to rust.

In 2018, Chris tried to sell a [[Wikipedia:Fitbit|Fitbit]] activity tracker. However, no-one bought it, and he kept using it.<ref>[[April 2018 social media posts]]</ref> He did 23,000 steps on a [[Walking to the post office|walk to the post office and back]]. In January 2019 he released Fitbit info to the [[Brony Babes]] group. Eventually, though, Chris gave up on walking, mostly using the Fitbit to [[biological clock|monitor his sleep]].<ref>[[May 2019 social media posts]], [[June 2019 social media posts]]</ref>

===#BronyBabes===
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Chris began [[2019]] by participating in the #BronyBabes challenge on Twitter with the goal of losing weight. He quickly abandoned it, though, after a barrage of blocks from fellow participants and voice actors for [[My Little Pony]].

===Exercise in Jail===

According to [[Jail Letter - 8 November 2021|a few]] [[Jail Letter - 30 November 2021 (Eels and the Egg-man)|jail letters]], Chris's primary means of exercise in jail is playing basketball in the recreation room. However, a letter from a Twitter fan known as "Eels and the Egg-man" also shows that he was restricted from the recreation room, though Chris has not disclosed the reason for this. Any other means of exercise for Chris in the prison are yet to be revealed.

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==Hygiene==
{{quote|I shower Daily.|Chris<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20140823175516/http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#C.W.C._Gets_A_Big_Power.21]</ref>}}

[[Image:Didyoubathe.JPG|thumb|right|180px|"Did you bathe?" "No"]][[Image:Plusoneshoweroffilth.jpg‎|thumb|left|Where Chris [[Mass debating|marinates in his own filth]]. Note the pale orange-red staining on the [[ShowerClean|improperly cleaned]] tiles, suggesting a case of a ''[[wikipedia:Serratia marcescens|Serratia marcescens]]'' bacterial colony, a type of bacteria capable of causing everything from urinary tract infections to meningitis.]]

As quoted above, Chris claims to bathe on a daily basis. However, his propensity to lie and reports from people who have interacted with him suggest otherwise. According to [[Emily]], he reeked of "rotten watermelons"; [[Robert Simmons V]] said that he had a variant of the homeless person stank, and field agents have said "body odor masked with gallons of Axe". In fact, it might be that Chris regards [[Axe]] as a substitute for a shower.<ref>In an [https://web.archive.org/web/20140702004100/http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_2/Page_10 ad] Chris made for ''[[Sonichu 2|Sonichu #2]]'' [[Rosechu]] tells [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] that he smells good, and asks him if he bathed, like it's some kind of event. Sonichu replies that he used Axe instead, suggesting that Chris believes that using aerosol body spray is an acceptable substitute for a shower or bath.</ref> Rosechu seems to confirm this belief, as upon being told of the Axe usage she makes an awful attempt at suggestive wordplay, suggesting both that using Axe makes Sonichu clean enough for sex and that cheap deodorant has an aphrodisiac effect on Rosechu.

It would appear that Chris compounds this hygiene problem by frequently going for days without changing his clothes; perusal of his videos has shown him wearing the same shirt for several days in a row.<ref>A particularly good example is the series of videos starting with [[12 January 2010]] and ending with [[U8C43P2A37A8 y U8C1N023V0L]]. The videos in question were shot between 12-15 [[January 2010]], and in all of them Chris wears the same shirt.</ref> It may be that Chris just gets into "nice" clothing to make his videos and as such doesn't get them dirty, allowing for him to use the same ones repeatedly, although this hygienic habit would be at odds with everything else he does.

The condition of his epidermal system is so poor that it's visibly noticeable, even in his [[Chris and cinematography|low quality videos]]. The texture of grease that is probably permanently adhered to his skin creates a disgusting sheen that reflects a significant amount of light. The same goes for his [[hair]], which is in such poor condition that when he allowed it to grow for the [[Tomgirl Pictures]], many strands were clumped together in greasy, sticky locks, looking akin to the long beard of a homeless man. And even when washed, it looks exactly as greasy and unkempt as it did before, as seen in the [[HairDifference]] videos. This neglect will only make his hair fall out even faster than it already is.

This lack of cleanliness, combined with the state of his [[Chris's Room|room]] where he spends almost all his time, means that Chris and his surroundings must smell absolutely ''disgusting''. Chris evidently simply tolerates the horrible odors, perhaps not noticing them anymore. It may be that he has an abnormally weak or insensitive sense of smell or has gone nose-blind; few other things would allow for such living conditions.

Despite his irregular (at best) use of the shower, Chris is reportedly an enthusiastic consumer of hand sanitizer. [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] recalled that he would scrub his hands with germ-killing jellied alcohol after every post-card-game handshake at [[The GAMe PLACe]] (doubtlessly offending his victorious opponents) and photographs of Chris at [[Fridays After Five]] suggest that he kept a bottle on hand at all times. Additionally, Mimms and Lucas said in their [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A|Q&A session]] that Chris didn't have any noticeable BO during his time at the GAMe PLACe, suggesting that his odor problems would only worsen from that time onward. [[BlueSpike]] also mentions Chris's usage of hand sanitizer throughout [[Julie Reveals Herself]].

A 2020 tweet suggested that Chris wears the [[Sonichu medallion]] in the shower.<ref>[[June_2020_social_media_posts#medallions]]</ref> [[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!|Crayola fuckin' Model Magic and acrylic paint]] are both porous when hardened, and as such, the medallion will absorb grime such as soap scum and skin cells when Chris showers with it. The medallion has also grown more and more filthy and discolored due to contact with hot water.

A [[Jail Letter - 16 November 2021|November 2021 jail letter]] has Chris stating that he is highly encouraged to shower daily with Bob Barker or Irish Spring soap, a towel, and shampoo, while in prison, indicating that Chris's hygiene may have improved drastically in recent times. Chris claims that he is "VERY clean". Whether or not this pattern will continue after he is released, with no strict regime or [[Jerkop|guards]] to encourage him to shower, remains to be seen.

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==Living conditions==

''Main article: [[14 Branchland Court]], [[Rental House]]''

[[File:Ebay violin photo - 22 Jun 2014 - 1.jpg|thumb|Only half a year in and already an inhuman cesspool; quite the accomplishment.]]

Simply put, Chris has spent many years growing acclimated to living in conditions of abject filth and untidiness. The photographs and videos of 14 Branchland Court that he has so unwisely shared with the world showcased to us his filthy bathtub, as well as what appeared to be overflowing bins that looked more like mounds of trash, a kitchen sink overflowing with unwashed plates and cutlery, and even an instance of Chris [[Vivitheg's AIM chat|slipping on cat shit]]. Trolls also managed to [[Rocky Shoemaker call|extract]] from [[Rocky Shoemaker]] that the house was suffering some sort of infestation, which led to [[Bob]] being quarantined after being brought to hospital, and Chris being confined to his room to avoid being bitten. When Chris's last video of the house emerged in the months before the [[2014 house fire|fire]], it was revealed that the problem had only gotten worse since Bob's passing, with whole rooms literally rendered inaccessible, and some filled almost to the ceiling with items [[Barb]] had hoarded, and with various other rooms reduced to crevices carved into Barb's mountains of junk.

Even after the fire, Chris and Barb have seemingly not amended their habits, as far as housekeeping goes. Photographs of the rental house revealed a steadily growing number of [[Lego]] boxes strewn around, as well as something much more alarming; when Chris was taking photographs of his merchandise for [[eBay]], he inadvertently photographed rat feces on the carpet as well. When [[Trolls|concerned customers]] pointed this out Chris [[Chris and reality|flatly denied it]], even though [[Honor roll|he had given them photographic proof to the contrary]]. Moreover, after [[Catherine]] visited in [[August 2014]], she recalled seeing junk "piled up to the ceiling" and the dogs not being housebroken and allowed to urinate and defecate in piles of newspaper on the floor. While Chris and Barb returned to the renovated 14 Branchland Court in [[January 2015]], one can only imagine the reaction of the landlord to the state in which they left the house, which, as of [[April 2015]], was still vacant, probably due to the mess they made.

==Vision==
As evidenced by his oversized, [[Pedo-Glasses|aviator-like glasses]], Chris has a vision problem. Judging by pictures of Chris in his youth, it appears that he began wearing glasses around the time he entered high school. The extent of his eyesight problems is anybody's guess. His glasses are often fogged and [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|dirty]], thus simultaneously improving and worsening his sight along different feature dimensions. Chris often takes them off when things are [[Stress|"getting serious"]], but keeps them on to [[Chris and English|read]]. This is evident in the video in which he [[Captain's_Log,_Stardate_February_10th,_2009|reads a letter from Nintendo]], and in the [[Christian_Weston_Chandler's_FUTURE_MESSAGE|"FUTURE MESSAGE"]] video. Chris may also suffer from [[facial blindness]].

One of Chris' half-brothers, Dr. David Alan Chandler, happens to be an eye doctor whom Chris has seen in the past. The last time Chris was known to have seen him for an appointment was 6 January 2004.

Chris's driver's license has a restrictive condition checked, which commonly means that the driver must wear glasses in order to legally drive. Whether his vision contributed to the [[Son-Chu#Car_trouble|numerous vehicular incidents]] he has been involved in has yet to be seen. However, it is a good bet that Chris should be wearing glasses while driving, for the sake of those sharing the road with him.

In his [[CLog 10042017 - Q&A NO MORE]] video, Chris's left eye is drooping noticeably, which may imply either an early sign of a stroke or substance abuse. Both of these are plausible due to his [[obesity]] and poor nutrition for the former, and his abuse of [[Oestrogel application and Vibrating Bra, How To.|a black-market drug for the latter]].

==Hearing and speech==
''Main article: [[Speech impediment]]''

Little is known about the current state of Chris's hearing, but the [[Autism papers]] said he suffered from high-frequency hearing loss in early childhood. Chris has also exhibited signs of tone-deafness; his [[music]]al performances show little semblance of melody at all.

Chris is known for his [[Speech impediment|unusual way of talking]], which goes beyond just having a Southern accent. He mixes up, clutters, and substitutes sounds regularly. He also often talks quickly and slurs his words, and when he doesn't, his voice takes on a staccato rhythm. His voice itself is a very severe deformity, ranging in pitch from normal to the sound of a three-year old girl on helium all the way to [[Wikipedia:Gilbert Gottfried|Gilbert Gottfried]]. It has been medically proven that one of the effects of [[autism]] is a lack of variation in speech such as tone, pitch and accent. It can also work backwards, which could explain Chris's far from normal voice: autistics often have difficulty distinguishing voice tone.

In his [[Song of Christian]] video, his voice sounds almost entirely normal and even deeper than later years, except for the occasional times where he recalls [[Wikipedia:List_of_Conker_characters#Conker_the_Squirrel|Conker]] of ''[[Wikipedia:Conker's Bad Fur Day|Conker's Bad Fur Day]]''. However, this voice deformity most likely comes from the fact he has little to no human interaction; such isolation has been proven to change a person's perception of pitch, especially if they're autistic. Chances are likely this has become permanent for Chris, given his decades of isolation.

==Dental health==
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[[Image:ChrisCavities.JPG‎|thumb|250px|He's not even afraid to show the gaping cavities at the back of his mouth. Talk about [[honest content]]!]]

Chris's fondness for bearing his [[fangs]] in moments of [[Chris and anger|tard rage]] has revealed substantial dental work, particularly on his back molars, which look to have had most of their surface drilled and filled to deal with cavities. It seems likely that Chris takes about as much care of his teeth as he does any other part of his body, and that he'll be needing crowns and other painful, [[Chris and money|expensive]] dental surgery some time later in his life, assuming he lives that long.

Although it is difficult to tell (partly due to Chris's [[Chris and cinematography|awful camerawork]]), in the few instances we get to see his teeth, they seem to be a strange yellow-brown color, which is likely the result of large consumption of [[Fanta|carbonated drinks]], poor dental hygiene, and his refusal to visit a professional under the influence of his massive [[Chris and his Ego|narcissism]]. He seems to be unwilling to brush his teeth, or even at least chew some [[Brand loyalty|Orbit gum]].
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==Cardiovascular health==
[[File:Soysauce on fries.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris thinks this will help him grow his [[muscle bra|breasts]]. To be fair, [[obesity|he's not wrong]].]]

It is known that Chris's father Bob Chandler had a long history of heart problems. Knowing this, Chris should have realized he was at a far higher chance of inheriting cardiac disorders and related risk factors. Thanks to his poor decisions regarding his own health, he has made an already bad situation worse.

In August 2013, Chris indicated that the [[Chris and stress|stress]] he's endured has begun to affect his health, citing a symptom of high blood pressure. In 2016, he implied that he has hypertension;<ref>[[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis#Likes]]</ref> this was later confirmed in August 2017, when he stated that he takes prescription medicine for it.<ref>[[August 2017 tweets#Chris' prescribed medication]]</ref>

In September 2017, Chris discussed his new method for growing larger breasts, which involves flavoring his food with soy sauce. As an example, he posted a picture of [[McDonald's]] fries doused in soy sauce.<ref>[[September 2017 tweets#Chris is fat and stupid]]</ref> It is evident that he has conflated soy-based foods with soy sauce, thinking the latter would be a good way to boost estrogen levels. In reality, the phytoestrogens found in soy products do not bind to the body's estradiol receptors, and thus will have no effect on his manboobs. Conversely, soy sauce is loaded with sodium, and said sodium is actually making him fatter due to weight gain and fluid retention, as well as inflicting further damage to his heart, which is already straining under the effects of hypertension. Although drinking water does help offset the effects of sodium-laden foods, Chris is too busy slurping on Coca-Cola to ever consider adding that to his daily food regime, although he has been drinking more water recently, due to his belief that putting a crystal in his water bottle will give him magical powers.

In [[January 2019]], Chris uploaded the results of a blood sugar and blood pressure screening. Chris' blood pressure is shown to be 121 over 84, classified as ''pre-high blood pressure''.<ref>http://www.bloodpressureuk.org/BloodPressureandyou/Thebasics/Bloodpressurechart</ref> His blood glucose is 63 mg/dL and his total cholesterol is 140, both of which are surprisingly healthy levels considering his lifestyle.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1084128581360513025</ref>

In [[June 2019]], Chris, via [[MagiChan111448|his sockpuppet account]], claimed to have suffered a heart attack, and that he went to the emergency room.<ref>[[June 2019 social media posts#Heart attack claim]]</ref>. However, it turned out to have been a case of heartburn - his doctor referred to it as a gastro issue and advised taking Tums.<ref>[[:File:MergeComic11.jpg]]</ref>

==Excretory health==
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Chris has had a long history of fecal incontinence. One factor likely contributing to this is his diet. His continued [[List of things Chris has shoved up his ass|abuse]] of his anus and rectum has not helped.

Chris also has a history of urinary tract infections, despite the condition being uncommon with men.

As mentioned in the previous section, Chris has revealed that he is now putting soy sauce on everything that is not sweet. In addition to worsening his renal health, when combined with the laxative effects of his intake of twelve prunes a day (part of the same breast growth formula), this is only likely to result in a higher frequency of [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS]].

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==Mental health==
[[Image:Ecp00065.jpg|thumb|Christian Weston Chandler is not a very healthy individual in any sense of the word.]]

[[Chris and mental healthcare|As noted]], Chris has a hostile relationship with psychotherapy, so there is little that can be said about what mental illnesses he has. Because autism isn't nearly enough to explain the full spectrum of his abject psyche, many observers have tried to pin down Chris for a variety of mental illnesses ranging from sociopathy (minus the increase in charisma) to narcissism (ditto), to schizophrenia (signs include his disorganized speech and writing, loss of contact with [[Chris and reality|reality]], and paranoid ideas about being the victim of persecution or "conspiracies" – such as his delusional belief that [[Megan Schroeder]] and [[Michael Snyder]] were somehow responsible for him getting banned from [[Walmart]]).

The one mental failing that debilitates Chris most is his rigid refusal to adapt to his environment. This stubbornness, more than anything else, is what makes him so frustrating to watch – he is incapable of advancing mentally beyond the mind of a ten-year-old with some ''[[Wikipedia:Playboy|Playboy]]'' magazines stuffed under his mattress. Whatever mental problems he may have are only exacerbated by this stubborn inability to mature or even alter his tactics. For well over a decade, he has been led on by various trolls pretending to be [[Sweetheart|young white women]] [[Chris and reality|who are interested in a relationship with him]], and yet he continually falls for it. It is Chris's refusal to listen or learn that ensures that he will continue to live in [[Naive|ignorance]], isolation and misery, and until he decides to change, it always will, irrespective of whether his trolls stay interested in him.

It was once thought possible that Chris didn't feel like his life had truly begun, that he was still in the "pre-adult" years – because he remained a [[Virgin with rage|virgin]] into his early 30s, and judging by his [[Autism|oversimplified, black-and-white view of the world]] [[The Adventures of The American Rabbit|tainted]] [[Video games|by]] [[Chris and reality|fiction]] [[Chris and television|and]] [[Chris and brand loyalty|media messages]], [[women's rights|treatment of women]] and [[Chris and sex|stunted understanding of sexual relationships]], because he saw sex not as a biological or recreational function, or an expression of love, but rather as a rite of passage, of sorts, and he therefore believed that he wasn't able to truly be an adult until he had sex. Chris later would [[Mia Hamm|lose his virginity for real]], albeit to a hooker; as of yet, he has made few to no changes that will tangibly improve his life. In fact, he has been plunging himself and his mother even further into debt to buy toys, of all things, as well as a new car. Needless to say, no one expects Chris and Barb to be able to afford to keep the car for long.

Since Chris has been pampered and sheltered from basically all forms of outside influence, he lacks experience with the real world. His reaction to the real world can best be seen in his reactions to trolls; instead of dealing with them in a constructive way (taking their advice) or even a neutral way (either ignoring them or getting off the internet), he will freak out, yell at things, blame his autism or the trolls themselves for his shortcomings, and maybe crush a [[sex toys|dildo]] or his [[PSEye|camera]].

He also has a peculiar notion that he is slim, broad-shouldered and tan, and that he has a full head of [[hair]] and is generally not creepy. This image comes from two things:

* His mother would always [[Barbara Chandler#Pampering of Chris|tell him how "handsome" he was]]. This might simply be [[Barbara]] telling her son what all mothers tell their kids.
* He has an [[Wikipedia:Prosopagnosia|inability to recognize people's faces]]. For example, during the [[Blanca Weiss|Blanca]] incidents, trolls used pictures of two different girls to represent Blanca and he never suspected a thing; he thinks that he and [[BILLY MAYS]] would have looked the same if BILLY shaved off his beard. In [[Manchester High School|high school]], he had to remember his own appearance by staring in the mirror, leaving his more youthful image of himself branded in his mind.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20140825091156/http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_7/Page_24 ''Sonichu'' #7, page 24]</ref> The fact that the only distinguishing features of his cartoon characters are hair and eye color also point to this, although this may just be Chris being a [[Chris and art|shitty artist]].

Some people think that, far from being mentally ill, Chris is just misguided and simply needs to be steered in the right direction. [[White knight|However...]]

In the July 2012 [[This is how the Trial went|arraignment]] for his and Barbara's actions at the GAMe PLACe [[28_October_2011|the previous fall]], Chris agreed to a plea bargain, avoiding felony charges and jail time in exchange for, among other things, "mandatory psychological treatment and evaluation," which meant that Chris was forced to undergo legitimate psychiatric treatment (as opposed to simply seeing [[Rocky_Shoemaker|an un-certified pastoral "counselor"]]), or risk being imprisoned. Given that most, if not all of the problems described above persist in some form or another to this day, it seems that Chris reacted to psychiatric treatment in much the same way he reacted to the education system, as it seems that, whatever his psychiatrist said, he took none of it in, probably taking out his [[Ego|anger at being forced to obey the law]] on the psychiatrist by simply refusing to co-operate.

Chris began listening to [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]] videos on YouTube in 2016. On 29 June, he uploaded [[Announcement 06292016|Announcement 06292016-2]], in which he claimed that the music cured his autism:

{{quotebox|Hey [[fans]], I forgot one thing to mention. I have- I've actually been on a- subliminal project, as a lot of you- or some of you- might have been... aware of, through my history or whatever... That I try to keep private amongst my YouTube settings.

But I have been enjoying for the past 3 months the "Get Rid of Autism" subliminal. [[Naive|The one that actually works]] in three months so less than [''stutters''] three times per day. 36 times.

I have been doin' that I've actually found myself more mentally capable. I don't- I do not blank out as much, I feel a little bit [[Slow-in-the-minds|faster]] in mental processing... Aaand I feel a whole lot better so with that [''puts out hands''] I'm essentially [[Autism#Autism cured?|cured of autism]]. Oh and also I actually have been able to socialize better out in public, so that's another good deal right there.

I'm gonna put the link underneath this video... And those of y'all with autism... Try for yourself. Three- play it three times, per day... for three months. [''Points to head''] It worked for me. [''Thumbs up'']}}

However, in a November Facebook post, he was back to referring to himself as a "high-functioning autistic person."<ref>[[November 2016 Facebook posts#Hate and fear of Trump and Pence]]</ref>

Chris mentioned in August 2017 that he takes Valium, a drug used to treat [[stress|anxiety and nervousness]].<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2017_tweets#On_wearing_the_unicorn_cosplay_to_church</ref>

{{quote|I took a rest and some valium after I got back home. I feel some recovered, but feel some mild headache now.|Chris, on taking the drug after feeling stress from being told not to wear his [[unicorn cosplay]] at church.}}

==Sexual health==
Bent at a horrifying 45° angle, Chris's [[duck]] is a thing of almost unholy terror. While there has been much speculation as to the cause of this (possibly [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyronie%27s_disease Peyronie's disease] or the result of engaging in dangerous prone masturbation), it is ultimately a mystery that will probably never be solved. While correctable, the process is expensive, and Chris has other, [[Video games|more]] [[Toys|important]] [[Sex toys|things]] on which to spend his (or rather, [[Monthly tugboat|taxpayers']]) money.

In correspondence with [[Jackie]], Chris revealed he was checked for STDs in early [[2010]].<ref>[[Jackie e-mails]]</ref> He didn't have any; [[Virgin with rage|you can probably guess why]].

==Gender transitioning==
{{see also|Transgender}}
===Hormone treatment===
[[File:Like budderin bread - credit to Buck Mullet.gif|thumb|Chris believes this is an appropriate form of hormone therapy.]]
Normally, transgender people plan out their gender transitions with doctors to ensure safety throughout the process, especially if they are taking hormones (which can cause health issues unless strictly monitored according to the patient's health profile).

Unfortunately, Chris has done the opposite. In 2015, he acquired '''Oestrogel''', a hormone replacement therapy cream meant for [[Barbara Chandler|post-menopausal women]]. It is meant to be prescription-only, but Chris got around the requirement to see a doctor by ordering it through Offshore Pharmacy.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2016_Facebook_posts#House_Cleaning</ref> Oestrogel has health risks, such as fluid retention, weight changes, rise in blood pressure (disastrous for an [[Obesity|obese]] person like Chris) and blood clots,<ref name=healthrisks>[http://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-89430/estrogel-transdermal/details/list-sideeffects Common and Rare Side Effects for Estrogel transdermal]. WebMD</ref> and that is when it is applied properly via a small dosage on the arm once per day. He even managed to fail at following the directions on the package, as shown in [[Oestrogel application and Vibrating Bra, How To.]], in which he slathers the cream onto his stomach "like buttering bread".

[[Kim Wilson]] revealed that he was taking the hormones in May 2015,<ref>[[May 2015 Facebook posts]]</ref> and Chris mentioned the drug again as late as August 2016.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2016_Facebook_posts#House_Cleaning</ref> Throughout 2015-2016, he repeatedly complained, via Facebook posts, of feeling dizzy and ill, but has failed to connect the dots and see that taking over-dosages of a black-market drug without a physician's approval could be a reason for it.

In addition to Oestrogel, Chris has been taking supplements such as vitamins. He purchased a jar of Solaray Female Hormone Blend Vitamins in August 2016,<ref>https://archive.md/nY76j/</ref> which is meant to ease menopausal symptoms. [[Arthur Spatchcock]] also learned that, around [[May 2016]], Chris was fond of eating Fenugreek seeds because he believed it would increase his estrogen levels (being unaware that it would have no effect on him, since he is not on estrogen).<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20170811082043/https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-thoughts-questions.661/page-562#post-1475700</ref>

At some point in fall 2016, he finally went to a medical professional and was prescribed proper HRT.<ref>[[September 2017 tweets#Chris insists he's on HRT]]</ref>

===Un-clit===
One day in September 2014, Chris decided to get [[Un-clit|a piercing on his perineum]]. Piercings require constant disinfection while they heal, anywhere on the body, even for very clean people, and so many trolls were concerned that considering Chris's general filthiness and the fact that the location of the piercing would receive very little air, there was a serious risk of infection. In December, he shared another picture of this piercing which showed that, while it wasn't infected, the piercing had begun to reject (''tearing the skin'' in the process). Making lemonade out of lemons, Chris (now in the throes of his transwoman fantasy) noted with pride the tear's semblance to a [[China|vagina]] and actually got it re-pierced, without giving the original wound any longer than about a week to heal. Fortunately, Chris gave up on it after it became clear that the piercing was going to be more hassle than it was worth, and removed it for good before any serious harm was done.

===Self-inflicted taint wound===
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In [[July 2016]], Chris posted about a wound on his taint, announcing that he had gotten it as a result of [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]] and would be growing new labia as a result. However, as the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] later discovered, Chris actually went ahead and '''sliced himself open with a knife in order to free the vagina he thought was growing within him'''.

{{quoteboxgreen|So, Chris was feeling up his junk, and he felt something "growing in". He believed his labia were growing in. He knew, logically, that he probably should let it... ahem... "erupt" on its own, because cutting himself open is crazy and he would probably get in trouble. But one night he was drunk and was sad that someone pointed out he didn't have an actual vagina, so he thought he'd help it along.

In the morning he was very embarrassed and sheepish about it. Chris is fucking lucky he posted about it online, and got pestered into getting help by weens, because if he hadn't, he'd probably end up in the hospital, fighting off a potentially lethal infection.

So technically speaking, in Chris logic, it was indeed a wound, but his vagina was going to come out and the wound would heal and everything would be alright.

It's kind of like he was Brundlewoman and he was pulling off his old ear and face and shit, and the beautiful Pam Anderson Christine would be underneath.<ref>https://archive.md/KbKpe</ref>}}

===Rejected by a blood bank===
In January 2017, Chris complained on Facebook that he had been turned away from a blood drive for being transgender.<ref>[[January 2017 Facebook Posts]]</ref> He stated that the given reason was "the FDA saw to not accept blood from Transgender people, due to the varying levels of testosterone/estrogen balances in our blood." Chris does not realize how medically sensitive patients will be when receiving blood transfusions, and that it would not be in their interests to be taking blood with hormonal imbalances, especially from Chris, whose blood has been affected by both his unhealthy lifestyle and the dangerous intake of the unsupervised Oestrogel drug.

==Other deformities==
[[Image:Eye.jpg|thumb|"My left eye is blue, and my right eye is brown-my right is green."<ref>[[CWC Update 13 August 2009]]</ref>]]
Chris also has mild [[heterochromia]], which he claims is the result of pinkeye medicine that he took in high school. However, in a photo of a young Chris, his right eye is green.<ref>[[:Image:0043-YoungChristopher2.jpg]]</ref> He probably tells this story so people think he's [[Autism|special]].

[[/cwc/|Some]] have pointed out that Chris has an unusually wide [[wikipedia:Nasal septum|septum]], as seen in his [[MySpace]] picture.<ref>[[:File:Myspace.jpg]]</ref> Others go as far as to say he lacks one altogether. The cause of this, like his bent [[duck]], is as yet unknown.

==See also==
*[[Autism]]
*[[COVID-19]]
*[[Hair]]
*[[Obesity]]
*[[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]]

== Sources ==
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Chris and health

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{{quote|Eat less [[/cow/|cow]] meat; Grilled Chicken is healthier. [[Pickle|Vegetables]] and [[Fanta|Fruit]] are a must; [[A Hike|Walking]] or [[Father Call|Jogging]] is great exercise daily. Standing helps too; play some ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' on [[Gitar of Fail|Guitar]], you have to stand while playing, and move a bit for fun and movement.|[[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s [[Chris and hypocrisy|ironic]] advice for [[Wikipedia:Ivan Drago|Ivan Drago]]<ref>[[Mailbag 2#The Guitar Hero workout|Mailbag 2]]</ref>}}

[[Image:DecayOfManChild.jpg|thumb|A rather optimistic depiction of Chris in later life, illustrated prior to his [[Transgender|Tomgirl makeover]].]]

Chris, as even those with a cursory knowledge of medicine can plainly see, is not in good '''health''' – physically or mentally. Considering his [[obesity]], [[Power|lack of exercise]], [[Christopher Paul Whitney reveal|poor nutrition]], [[ShowerClean|refusal to bathe]], and [[Tour of Chris's House|the grave uncleanliness]] of [[Rental House|his]] [[14 Branchland Court|surroundings]], he has an extremely high chance of developing potentially life-threatening medical problems such as cancer, type 2 diabetes, heart failure, [[Wikipedia:Atherosclerosis|atherosclerosis]], and possibly a premature [[Chris and death|death]].

==Diet and nutrition==
{{main|Chris and nutrition}}

Put simply, Chris is a fatty. Unfortunately, he continues to deny this fact, and often lies that he cooks for himself often. Chris's diet actually consists largely of fast food from McDonalds, which is admittedly not unlike the diet of many Americans. He claims to usually only eat fast food salads, but the caloric content of the salads often exceeds fast food burgers after adding the sauce that comes with them. His diet contributes in large part to many of his health issues, as well as his [[Financhu_Crisis|financial problems]].

==Exercise==

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{{quote|[…] while my body is Strong and [[Power]]ful, I am unable to Run Fast without losing breath 10-Seconds in [[Sonic]]-Running Speed.|[[CWCipedia]]<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20111128031730/http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Private_villa_of_corrupted_citizens#I_DO.21</ref>}}

[[File:Cwcstrongman.JPG|thumb|[[I AM STRONG]]!]]

Chris has not had any regular exercise since leaving [[Manchester High School|high school]], and the lack of physical activity has contributed to his already ballooning shape. Since he barely leaves his house and focuses his time on playing [[vidya]], his lack of exposure to the sunlight has left his skin a frightening pallor that starkly contrasts to the dark background of his room, while making videos. Also, most fat people have strong, stocky legs, due to carrying around all that weight, but since Chris very rarely performs any task more physically demanding than [[Guitar Hero|standing up]], his muscles have withered away, leaving a body made almost entirely out of fat, as evidenced by his incredibly thin and weak arms [[Sign Destruction Video|that are incapable of breaking wooden sticks]] and [[Chris Loses It|barely capable of tearing cardboard]].

When questioned about exercise, he regarded standing up and playing ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' as exercise.<ref>[[IRC (03 January 2009)]]</ref> Needless to say, Chris is clearly delusional. In Chris's [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|''PaRappa the Rapper'' contest entry]], where he foolishly chose to dance, he seemed to get tired very easily from dancing for a mere 30 seconds and even stopped recording to take a break (evidenced by the abrupt change of position). While attending [[Fridays After Five]] for a while, he danced in public like a stroke victim, then sat down to rest and play some vidya outdoors. Despite this, in [[WelcometoBollywood]] he is capable of dancing in place for over 7 minutes. Whether or not he did this with the magic of jump cuts remains to be seen.

During the later stages of his infatuation with [[Kacey]], many of Chris's videos showed a growing obsession with his own physical power. Chris apparently believes himself to be a nigh-unstoppable testament to human might, and has made several videos dedicated to flexing and [[30 Push-Ups|feats]] of [[11042009 51 50|strength]], performing Herculean tasks such as lifting boxes of Minute Maid lemonade and almost doing fake push-ups. He appears to believe that he could've defeated both his rivals [[Gregg Mays]] and [[Liquid Chris]] should've it to came to blows, and as such had challenged them to fisticuffs multiple times.

Of course, Chris is once again completely delusional about his own abilities. The push-ups and curls he has struggled to do on camera only serve to demonstrate exactly how hopelessly out of shape he really is. He's so fat and his muscles are so small that it's never clear whether he's actually flexing, and the [[CWC Fighter|fighting]] [[Challenge for Clyde|moves]] he's shown us are laughably incompetent. Were Chris to [[I Got A Fish|get his wish]] and physically confront Gregg or Liquid, he would definitely have his ass handed to him.

In the [[Father Call]] and the subsequent [[Kacey and Liquid Call]], Chris made various claims about having taken up jogging. At one point he claimed to jog 5 miles (8 kilometers) a day, but it didn't take long for Kacey and her father to call him out on this obvious lie. The truth is clearly shown in [[Sonichu's Edge]], where Chris runs only a fraction of a mile and had to take 6 breaks to catch his breath, whereas a person in decent health would take a few seconds to jog the same distance without having to stop as often as Chris did.

Chris's lack of muscle tone may stem from hypotonia (lack of muscle tone), which can occur in people on the [[autism]] spectrum,<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypotonia</ref> although it is clear that his poor lifestyle has only exacerbated this.

===Bicycling===
Chris has owned several bicycles over the course of his life, but it is unknown if he ever rode any of them regularly. The most recent one was lost in the hoard sometime before [[2010]]. Chris has made occasional reference to biking over the years:

* In [[Kacey Call 18]], he claims to have a scar above his left breast from a bicycle accident he had when he was about five to seven years old.
* Chris received a bike as a [[Christmas]] present in [[1990s|1995]].
* In his [[List of OkCupid Answers|OkCupid answers]], Chris claims that he always wears a helmet when he rides a bike.
* In [[Jackie Chat 6]], [[Jackie]] asks Chris to make a video of himself riding his bike. Chris claims that his bike is buried among junk and that he can no longer access it.

{{Wise|he would need to begin exercising regularly in spring [[2018]] for him to be in shape while in [[CWCville]].<ref>https://archive.md/1D1ZL</ref>}}

===Anytime Fitness===
[[File:Chris at Anytime Fitness.jpg|thumb|left|200px|A fan spotted him at the gym and snapped his photo.]]

The Idea Guys coerced Chris into getting a membership at an Anytime Fitness gym. In April 2018, Chris uploaded [[One-Hundred!]], a video of him working out in his bedroom with actual dumbbells of 20 pounds each, instead of [[11042009 51 50|lemonade boxes]]. He followed up by taking a selfie at an Anytime gym of him on a treadmill "speed walking 4 mph for two hours".<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/April_2018_social_media_posts#Exercising_on_a_treadmill</ref>

A couple of weeks after the treadmill update, Chris was cocky enough about his new lifestyle change to use a put-down of telling other people they could stand to go to the gym to lose weight.<ref>[[May 2018 social media posts#Mad at Facebook friends]]</ref>

{{quotebox|You are now Blocked. Before continuing to insult me whenever possible you should consider Going to the Gym Yourself, as I feel YOU could stand to Lose Some Weight!}}

On 7 May, Chris lamented the fact that [[weens]] had been calling up the gym to harass management about him:

{{quotebox|You Jerks and Trolls ruin EVERYTHING! I CAN'T EVEN GO TO THE GYM WITHOUT YOU HARASSING THE GYM THAT I GO TO!<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/993696407369408513</ref>}}

Later, [[Emily]] shared information that Chris had been banned:

{{quoteboxyellow|Chris was legitimately getting complaints from fellow gym goers regarding being [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|gassy]] and [[Fangs|burping]] a whole lot. So he already had a strike against him for that, then couple that with [[Weens|people]] calling them inevitably got him banned.<ref>https://archive.md/CKDwK</ref>}}

In the [[Copitz]] interview, Chris claimed that he had only been banned from the [[Ruckersville]] location, and was still regularly going to another undisclosed location in the [[Charlottesville]] area. Knowing Chris however its likely that this is a [[Lies|lie]] and he has most likely stopped going altogether since the Idea guys were removed from power, if he did actually continue to go to the gym its unlikely he could[[Honest Content| keep it a secret for very long]].

===Walking for exercise===
{{quote|Yes, the nature today is beautiful, and it was great temperature for a four-plus mile walk up the Monticello Trail. 😊 ⚡️💙⚡️|Chris<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1052243316274802691</ref>}}
[[File:Dead fitbit.jpeg|thumb|Chris's FitBit]]

The exercise habit from the Idea Guys stuck with Chris temporarily, as he continued to go on walks, as seen in [[Walking to the post office]] and him mentioning that he goes on nature walks with his support group.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1043912418198532096</ref> In December 2018, he purchased a [[treadmill]], and filmed himself using it. For the first time in a long time, it would've seemed that Chris had started to pay at least some attention to one facet of his health. However, only a few months later, it appears that he has left his treadmill to rust.

In 2018, Chris tried to sell a [[Wikipedia:Fitbit|Fitbit]] activity tracker. However, no-one bought it, and he kept using it.<ref>[[April 2018 social media posts]]</ref> He did 23,000 steps on a [[Walking to the post office|walk to the post office and back]]. In January 2019 he released Fitbit info to the [[Brony Babes]] group. Eventually, though, Chris gave up on walking, mostly using the Fitbit to [[biological clock|monitor his sleep]].<ref>[[May 2019 social media posts]], [[June 2019 social media posts]]</ref>

===#BronyBabes===
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Chris began [[2019]] by participating in the #BronyBabes challenge on Twitter with the goal of losing weight. He quickly abandoned it, though, after a barrage of blocks from fellow participants and voice actors for [[My Little Pony]].

===Exercise in Jail===

According to [[Jail Letter - 8 November 2021|a few]] [[Jail Letter - 30 November 2021 (Eels and the Egg-man)|jail letters]], Chris's primary means of exercise in jail is playing basketball in the recreation room. However, a letter from a Twitter fan known as "Eels and the Egg-man" also shows that he was restricted from the recreation room, though Chris has not disclosed the reason for this. Any other means of exercise for Chris in the prison are yet to be revealed.

His mugshot upon return to jail on 3 May 2021, after spending three months in an unknown location, revealed him to have lost a significant amount of weight.

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==Hygiene==
{{quote|I shower Daily.|Chris<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20140823175516/http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#C.W.C._Gets_A_Big_Power.21]</ref>}}

[[Image:Didyoubathe.JPG|thumb|right|180px|"Did you bathe?" "No"]][[Image:Plusoneshoweroffilth.jpg‎|thumb|left|Where Chris [[Mass debating|marinates in his own filth]]. Note the pale orange-red staining on the [[ShowerClean|improperly cleaned]] tiles, suggesting a case of a ''[[wikipedia:Serratia marcescens|Serratia marcescens]]'' bacterial colony, a type of bacteria capable of causing everything from urinary tract infections to meningitis.]]

As quoted above, Chris claims to bathe on a daily basis. However, his propensity to lie and reports from people who have interacted with him suggest otherwise. According to [[Emily]], he reeked of "rotten watermelons"; [[Robert Simmons V]] said that he had a variant of the homeless person stank, and field agents have said "body odor masked with gallons of Axe". In fact, it might be that Chris regards [[Axe]] as a substitute for a shower.<ref>In an [https://web.archive.org/web/20140702004100/http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_2/Page_10 ad] Chris made for ''[[Sonichu 2|Sonichu #2]]'' [[Rosechu]] tells [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] that he smells good, and asks him if he bathed, like it's some kind of event. Sonichu replies that he used Axe instead, suggesting that Chris believes that using aerosol body spray is an acceptable substitute for a shower or bath.</ref> Rosechu seems to confirm this belief, as upon being told of the Axe usage she makes an awful attempt at suggestive wordplay, suggesting both that using Axe makes Sonichu clean enough for sex and that cheap deodorant has an aphrodisiac effect on Rosechu.

It would appear that Chris compounds this hygiene problem by frequently going for days without changing his clothes; perusal of his videos has shown him wearing the same shirt for several days in a row.<ref>A particularly good example is the series of videos starting with [[12 January 2010]] and ending with [[U8C43P2A37A8 y U8C1N023V0L]]. The videos in question were shot between 12-15 [[January 2010]], and in all of them Chris wears the same shirt.</ref> It may be that Chris just gets into "nice" clothing to make his videos and as such doesn't get them dirty, allowing for him to use the same ones repeatedly, although this hygienic habit would be at odds with everything else he does.

The condition of his epidermal system is so poor that it's visibly noticeable, even in his [[Chris and cinematography|low quality videos]]. The texture of grease that is probably permanently adhered to his skin creates a disgusting sheen that reflects a significant amount of light. The same goes for his [[hair]], which is in such poor condition that when he allowed it to grow for the [[Tomgirl Pictures]], many strands were clumped together in greasy, sticky locks, looking akin to the long beard of a homeless man. And even when washed, it looks exactly as greasy and unkempt as it did before, as seen in the [[HairDifference]] videos. This neglect will only make his hair fall out even faster than it already is.

This lack of cleanliness, combined with the state of his [[Chris's Room|room]] where he spends almost all his time, means that Chris and his surroundings must smell absolutely ''disgusting''. Chris evidently simply tolerates the horrible odors, perhaps not noticing them anymore. It may be that he has an abnormally weak or insensitive sense of smell or has gone nose-blind; few other things would allow for such living conditions.

Despite his irregular (at best) use of the shower, Chris is reportedly an enthusiastic consumer of hand sanitizer. [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] recalled that he would scrub his hands with germ-killing jellied alcohol after every post-card-game handshake at [[The GAMe PLACe]] (doubtlessly offending his victorious opponents) and photographs of Chris at [[Fridays After Five]] suggest that he kept a bottle on hand at all times. Additionally, Mimms and Lucas said in their [[Mimms and Lucas Q&A|Q&A session]] that Chris didn't have any noticeable BO during his time at the GAMe PLACe, suggesting that his odor problems would only worsen from that time onward. [[BlueSpike]] also mentions Chris's usage of hand sanitizer throughout [[Julie Reveals Herself]].

A 2020 tweet suggested that Chris wears the [[Sonichu medallion]] in the shower.<ref>[[June_2020_social_media_posts#medallions]]</ref> [[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!|Crayola fuckin' Model Magic and acrylic paint]] are both porous when hardened, and as such, the medallion will absorb grime such as soap scum and skin cells when Chris showers with it. The medallion has also grown more and more filthy and discolored due to contact with hot water.

A [[Jail Letter - 16 November 2021|November 2021 jail letter]] has Chris stating that he is highly encouraged to shower daily with Bob Barker or Irish Spring soap, a towel, and shampoo, while in prison, indicating that Chris's hygiene may have improved drastically in recent times. Chris claims that he is "VERY clean". Whether or not this pattern will continue after he is released, with no strict regime or [[Jerkop|guards]] to encourage him to shower, remains to be seen.

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==Living conditions==

''Main article: [[14 Branchland Court]], [[Rental House]]''

[[File:Ebay violin photo - 22 Jun 2014 - 1.jpg|thumb|Only half a year in and already an inhuman cesspool; quite the accomplishment.]]

Simply put, Chris has spent many years growing acclimated to living in conditions of abject filth and untidiness. The photographs and videos of 14 Branchland Court that he has so unwisely shared with the world showcased to us his filthy bathtub, as well as what appeared to be overflowing bins that looked more like mounds of trash, a kitchen sink overflowing with unwashed plates and cutlery, and even an instance of Chris [[Vivitheg's AIM chat|slipping on cat shit]]. Trolls also managed to [[Rocky Shoemaker call|extract]] from [[Rocky Shoemaker]] that the house was suffering some sort of infestation, which led to [[Bob]] being quarantined after being brought to hospital, and Chris being confined to his room to avoid being bitten. When Chris's last video of the house emerged in the months before the [[2014 house fire|fire]], it was revealed that the problem had only gotten worse since Bob's passing, with whole rooms literally rendered inaccessible, and some filled almost to the ceiling with items [[Barb]] had hoarded, and with various other rooms reduced to crevices carved into Barb's mountains of junk.

Even after the fire, Chris and Barb have seemingly not amended their habits, as far as housekeeping goes. Photographs of the rental house revealed a steadily growing number of [[Lego]] boxes strewn around, as well as something much more alarming; when Chris was taking photographs of his merchandise for [[eBay]], he inadvertently photographed rat feces on the carpet as well. When [[Trolls|concerned customers]] pointed this out Chris [[Chris and reality|flatly denied it]], even though [[Honor roll|he had given them photographic proof to the contrary]]. Moreover, after [[Catherine]] visited in [[August 2014]], she recalled seeing junk "piled up to the ceiling" and the dogs not being housebroken and allowed to urinate and defecate in piles of newspaper on the floor. While Chris and Barb returned to the renovated 14 Branchland Court in [[January 2015]], one can only imagine the reaction of the landlord to the state in which they left the house, which, as of [[April 2015]], was still vacant, probably due to the mess they made.

==Vision==
As evidenced by his oversized, [[Pedo-Glasses|aviator-like glasses]], Chris has a vision problem. Judging by pictures of Chris in his youth, it appears that he began wearing glasses around the time he entered high school. The extent of his eyesight problems is anybody's guess. His glasses are often fogged and [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|dirty]], thus simultaneously improving and worsening his sight along different feature dimensions. Chris often takes them off when things are [[Stress|"getting serious"]], but keeps them on to [[Chris and English|read]]. This is evident in the video in which he [[Captain's_Log,_Stardate_February_10th,_2009|reads a letter from Nintendo]], and in the [[Christian_Weston_Chandler's_FUTURE_MESSAGE|"FUTURE MESSAGE"]] video. Chris may also suffer from [[facial blindness]].

One of Chris' half-brothers, Dr. David Alan Chandler, happens to be an eye doctor whom Chris has seen in the past. The last time Chris was known to have seen him for an appointment was 6 January 2004.

Chris's driver's license has a restrictive condition checked, which commonly means that the driver must wear glasses in order to legally drive. Whether his vision contributed to the [[Son-Chu#Car_trouble|numerous vehicular incidents]] he has been involved in has yet to be seen. However, it is a good bet that Chris should be wearing glasses while driving, for the sake of those sharing the road with him.

In his [[CLog 10042017 - Q&A NO MORE]] video, Chris's left eye is drooping noticeably, which may imply either an early sign of a stroke or substance abuse. Both of these are plausible due to his [[obesity]] and poor nutrition for the former, and his abuse of [[Oestrogel application and Vibrating Bra, How To.|a black-market drug for the latter]].

==Hearing and speech==
''Main article: [[Speech impediment]]''

Little is known about the current state of Chris's hearing, but the [[Autism papers]] said he suffered from high-frequency hearing loss in early childhood. Chris has also exhibited signs of tone-deafness; his [[music]]al performances show little semblance of melody at all.

Chris is known for his [[Speech impediment|unusual way of talking]], which goes beyond just having a Southern accent. He mixes up, clutters, and substitutes sounds regularly. He also often talks quickly and slurs his words, and when he doesn't, his voice takes on a staccato rhythm. His voice itself is a very severe deformity, ranging in pitch from normal to the sound of a three-year old girl on helium all the way to [[Wikipedia:Gilbert Gottfried|Gilbert Gottfried]]. It has been medically proven that one of the effects of [[autism]] is a lack of variation in speech such as tone, pitch and accent. It can also work backwards, which could explain Chris's far from normal voice: autistics often have difficulty distinguishing voice tone.

In his [[Song of Christian]] video, his voice sounds almost entirely normal and even deeper than later years, except for the occasional times where he recalls [[Wikipedia:List_of_Conker_characters#Conker_the_Squirrel|Conker]] of ''[[Wikipedia:Conker's Bad Fur Day|Conker's Bad Fur Day]]''. However, this voice deformity most likely comes from the fact he has little to no human interaction; such isolation has been proven to change a person's perception of pitch, especially if they're autistic. Chances are likely this has become permanent for Chris, given his decades of isolation.

==Dental health==
{{Main|Fangs}}
[[Image:ChrisCavities.JPG‎|thumb|250px|He's not even afraid to show the gaping cavities at the back of his mouth. Talk about [[honest content]]!]]

Chris's fondness for bearing his [[fangs]] in moments of [[Chris and anger|tard rage]] has revealed substantial dental work, particularly on his back molars, which look to have had most of their surface drilled and filled to deal with cavities. It seems likely that Chris takes about as much care of his teeth as he does any other part of his body, and that he'll be needing crowns and other painful, [[Chris and money|expensive]] dental surgery some time later in his life, assuming he lives that long.

Although it is difficult to tell (partly due to Chris's [[Chris and cinematography|awful camerawork]]), in the few instances we get to see his teeth, they seem to be a strange yellow-brown color, which is likely the result of large consumption of [[Fanta|carbonated drinks]], poor dental hygiene, and his refusal to visit a professional under the influence of his massive [[Chris and his Ego|narcissism]]. He seems to be unwilling to brush his teeth, or even at least chew some [[Brand loyalty|Orbit gum]].
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==Cardiovascular health==
[[File:Soysauce on fries.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris thinks this will help him grow his [[muscle bra|breasts]]. To be fair, [[obesity|he's not wrong]].]]

It is known that Chris's father Bob Chandler had a long history of heart problems. Knowing this, Chris should have realized he was at a far higher chance of inheriting cardiac disorders and related risk factors. Thanks to his poor decisions regarding his own health, he has made an already bad situation worse.

In August 2013, Chris indicated that the [[Chris and stress|stress]] he's endured has begun to affect his health, citing a symptom of high blood pressure. In 2016, he implied that he has hypertension;<ref>[[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis#Likes]]</ref> this was later confirmed in August 2017, when he stated that he takes prescription medicine for it.<ref>[[August 2017 tweets#Chris' prescribed medication]]</ref>

In September 2017, Chris discussed his new method for growing larger breasts, which involves flavoring his food with soy sauce. As an example, he posted a picture of [[McDonald's]] fries doused in soy sauce.<ref>[[September 2017 tweets#Chris is fat and stupid]]</ref> It is evident that he has conflated soy-based foods with soy sauce, thinking the latter would be a good way to boost estrogen levels. In reality, the phytoestrogens found in soy products do not bind to the body's estradiol receptors, and thus will have no effect on his manboobs. Conversely, soy sauce is loaded with sodium, and said sodium is actually making him fatter due to weight gain and fluid retention, as well as inflicting further damage to his heart, which is already straining under the effects of hypertension. Although drinking water does help offset the effects of sodium-laden foods, Chris is too busy slurping on Coca-Cola to ever consider adding that to his daily food regime, although he has been drinking more water recently, due to his belief that putting a crystal in his water bottle will give him magical powers.

In [[January 2019]], Chris uploaded the results of a blood sugar and blood pressure screening. Chris' blood pressure is shown to be 121 over 84, classified as ''pre-high blood pressure''.<ref>http://www.bloodpressureuk.org/BloodPressureandyou/Thebasics/Bloodpressurechart</ref> His blood glucose is 63 mg/dL and his total cholesterol is 140, both of which are surprisingly healthy levels considering his lifestyle.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1084128581360513025</ref>

In [[June 2019]], Chris, via [[MagiChan111448|his sockpuppet account]], claimed to have suffered a heart attack, and that he went to the emergency room.<ref>[[June 2019 social media posts#Heart attack claim]]</ref>. However, it turned out to have been a case of heartburn - his doctor referred to it as a gastro issue and advised taking Tums.<ref>[[:File:MergeComic11.jpg]]</ref>

==Excretory health==
{{main|DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|Piss}}

Chris has had a long history of fecal incontinence. One factor likely contributing to this is his diet. His continued [[List of things Chris has shoved up his ass|abuse]] of his anus and rectum has not helped.

Chris also has a history of urinary tract infections, despite the condition being uncommon with men.

As mentioned in the previous section, Chris has revealed that he is now putting soy sauce on everything that is not sweet. In addition to worsening his renal health, when combined with the laxative effects of his intake of twelve prunes a day (part of the same breast growth formula), this is only likely to result in a higher frequency of [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS]].

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==Mental health==
[[Image:Ecp00065.jpg|thumb|Christian Weston Chandler is not a very healthy individual in any sense of the word.]]

[[Chris and mental healthcare|As noted]], Chris has a hostile relationship with psychotherapy, so there is little that can be said about what mental illnesses he has. Because autism isn't nearly enough to explain the full spectrum of his abject psyche, many observers have tried to pin down Chris for a variety of mental illnesses ranging from sociopathy (minus the increase in charisma) to narcissism (ditto), to schizophrenia (signs include his disorganized speech and writing, loss of contact with [[Chris and reality|reality]], and paranoid ideas about being the victim of persecution or "conspiracies" – such as his delusional belief that [[Megan Schroeder]] and [[Michael Snyder]] were somehow responsible for him getting banned from [[Walmart]]).

The one mental failing that debilitates Chris most is his rigid refusal to adapt to his environment. This stubbornness, more than anything else, is what makes him so frustrating to watch – he is incapable of advancing mentally beyond the mind of a ten-year-old with some ''[[Wikipedia:Playboy|Playboy]]'' magazines stuffed under his mattress. Whatever mental problems he may have are only exacerbated by this stubborn inability to mature or even alter his tactics. For well over a decade, he has been led on by various trolls pretending to be [[Sweetheart|young white women]] [[Chris and reality|who are interested in a relationship with him]], and yet he continually falls for it. It is Chris's refusal to listen or learn that ensures that he will continue to live in [[Naive|ignorance]], isolation and misery, and until he decides to change, it always will, irrespective of whether his trolls stay interested in him.

It was once thought possible that Chris didn't feel like his life had truly begun, that he was still in the "pre-adult" years – because he remained a [[Virgin with rage|virgin]] into his early 30s, and judging by his [[Autism|oversimplified, black-and-white view of the world]] [[The Adventures of The American Rabbit|tainted]] [[Video games|by]] [[Chris and reality|fiction]] [[Chris and television|and]] [[Chris and brand loyalty|media messages]], [[women's rights|treatment of women]] and [[Chris and sex|stunted understanding of sexual relationships]], because he saw sex not as a biological or recreational function, or an expression of love, but rather as a rite of passage, of sorts, and he therefore believed that he wasn't able to truly be an adult until he had sex. Chris later would [[Mia Hamm|lose his virginity for real]], albeit to a hooker; as of yet, he has made few to no changes that will tangibly improve his life. In fact, he has been plunging himself and his mother even further into debt to buy toys, of all things, as well as a new car. Needless to say, no one expects Chris and Barb to be able to afford to keep the car for long.

Since Chris has been pampered and sheltered from basically all forms of outside influence, he lacks experience with the real world. His reaction to the real world can best be seen in his reactions to trolls; instead of dealing with them in a constructive way (taking their advice) or even a neutral way (either ignoring them or getting off the internet), he will freak out, yell at things, blame his autism or the trolls themselves for his shortcomings, and maybe crush a [[sex toys|dildo]] or his [[PSEye|camera]].

He also has a peculiar notion that he is slim, broad-shouldered and tan, and that he has a full head of [[hair]] and is generally not creepy. This image comes from two things:

* His mother would always [[Barbara Chandler#Pampering of Chris|tell him how "handsome" he was]]. This might simply be [[Barbara]] telling her son what all mothers tell their kids.
* He has an [[Wikipedia:Prosopagnosia|inability to recognize people's faces]]. For example, during the [[Blanca Weiss|Blanca]] incidents, trolls used pictures of two different girls to represent Blanca and he never suspected a thing; he thinks that he and [[BILLY MAYS]] would have looked the same if BILLY shaved off his beard. In [[Manchester High School|high school]], he had to remember his own appearance by staring in the mirror, leaving his more youthful image of himself branded in his mind.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20140825091156/http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_7/Page_24 ''Sonichu'' #7, page 24]</ref> The fact that the only distinguishing features of his cartoon characters are hair and eye color also point to this, although this may just be Chris being a [[Chris and art|shitty artist]].

Some people think that, far from being mentally ill, Chris is just misguided and simply needs to be steered in the right direction. [[White knight|However...]]

In the July 2012 [[This is how the Trial went|arraignment]] for his and Barbara's actions at the GAMe PLACe [[28_October_2011|the previous fall]], Chris agreed to a plea bargain, avoiding felony charges and jail time in exchange for, among other things, "mandatory psychological treatment and evaluation," which meant that Chris was forced to undergo legitimate psychiatric treatment (as opposed to simply seeing [[Rocky_Shoemaker|an un-certified pastoral "counselor"]]), or risk being imprisoned. Given that most, if not all of the problems described above persist in some form or another to this day, it seems that Chris reacted to psychiatric treatment in much the same way he reacted to the education system, as it seems that, whatever his psychiatrist said, he took none of it in, probably taking out his [[Ego|anger at being forced to obey the law]] on the psychiatrist by simply refusing to co-operate.

Chris began listening to [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]] videos on YouTube in 2016. On 29 June, he uploaded [[Announcement 06292016|Announcement 06292016-2]], in which he claimed that the music cured his autism:

{{quotebox|Hey [[fans]], I forgot one thing to mention. I have- I've actually been on a- subliminal project, as a lot of you- or some of you- might have been... aware of, through my history or whatever... That I try to keep private amongst my YouTube settings.

But I have been enjoying for the past 3 months the "Get Rid of Autism" subliminal. [[Naive|The one that actually works]] in three months so less than [''stutters''] three times per day. 36 times.

I have been doin' that I've actually found myself more mentally capable. I don't- I do not blank out as much, I feel a little bit [[Slow-in-the-minds|faster]] in mental processing... Aaand I feel a whole lot better so with that [''puts out hands''] I'm essentially [[Autism#Autism cured?|cured of autism]]. Oh and also I actually have been able to socialize better out in public, so that's another good deal right there.

I'm gonna put the link underneath this video... And those of y'all with autism... Try for yourself. Three- play it three times, per day... for three months. [''Points to head''] It worked for me. [''Thumbs up'']}}

However, in a November Facebook post, he was back to referring to himself as a "high-functioning autistic person."<ref>[[November 2016 Facebook posts#Hate and fear of Trump and Pence]]</ref>

Chris mentioned in August 2017 that he takes Valium, a drug used to treat [[stress|anxiety and nervousness]].<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2017_tweets#On_wearing_the_unicorn_cosplay_to_church</ref>

{{quote|I took a rest and some valium after I got back home. I feel some recovered, but feel some mild headache now.|Chris, on taking the drug after feeling stress from being told not to wear his [[unicorn cosplay]] at church.}}

==Sexual health==
Bent at a horrifying 45° angle, Chris's [[duck]] is a thing of almost unholy terror. While there has been much speculation as to the cause of this (possibly [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyronie%27s_disease Peyronie's disease] or the result of engaging in dangerous prone masturbation), it is ultimately a mystery that will probably never be solved. While correctable, the process is expensive, and Chris has other, [[Video games|more]] [[Toys|important]] [[Sex toys|things]] on which to spend his (or rather, [[Monthly tugboat|taxpayers']]) money.

In correspondence with [[Jackie]], Chris revealed he was checked for STDs in early [[2010]].<ref>[[Jackie e-mails]]</ref> He didn't have any; [[Virgin with rage|you can probably guess why]].

==Gender transitioning==
{{see also|Transgender}}
===Hormone treatment===
[[File:Like budderin bread - credit to Buck Mullet.gif|thumb|Chris believes this is an appropriate form of hormone therapy.]]
Normally, transgender people plan out their gender transitions with doctors to ensure safety throughout the process, especially if they are taking hormones (which can cause health issues unless strictly monitored according to the patient's health profile).

Unfortunately, Chris has done the opposite. In 2015, he acquired '''Oestrogel''', a hormone replacement therapy cream meant for [[Barbara Chandler|post-menopausal women]]. It is meant to be prescription-only, but Chris got around the requirement to see a doctor by ordering it through Offshore Pharmacy.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2016_Facebook_posts#House_Cleaning</ref> Oestrogel has health risks, such as fluid retention, weight changes, rise in blood pressure (disastrous for an [[Obesity|obese]] person like Chris) and blood clots,<ref name=healthrisks>[http://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-89430/estrogel-transdermal/details/list-sideeffects Common and Rare Side Effects for Estrogel transdermal]. WebMD</ref> and that is when it is applied properly via a small dosage on the arm once per day. He even managed to fail at following the directions on the package, as shown in [[Oestrogel application and Vibrating Bra, How To.]], in which he slathers the cream onto his stomach "like buttering bread".

[[Kim Wilson]] revealed that he was taking the hormones in May 2015,<ref>[[May 2015 Facebook posts]]</ref> and Chris mentioned the drug again as late as August 2016.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/August_2016_Facebook_posts#House_Cleaning</ref> Throughout 2015-2016, he repeatedly complained, via Facebook posts, of feeling dizzy and ill, but has failed to connect the dots and see that taking over-dosages of a black-market drug without a physician's approval could be a reason for it.

In addition to Oestrogel, Chris has been taking supplements such as vitamins. He purchased a jar of Solaray Female Hormone Blend Vitamins in August 2016,<ref>https://archive.md/nY76j/</ref> which is meant to ease menopausal symptoms. [[Arthur Spatchcock]] also learned that, around [[May 2016]], Chris was fond of eating Fenugreek seeds because he believed it would increase his estrogen levels (being unaware that it would have no effect on him, since he is not on estrogen).<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20170811082043/https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-thoughts-questions.661/page-562#post-1475700</ref>

At some point in fall 2016, he finally went to a medical professional and was prescribed proper HRT.<ref>[[September 2017 tweets#Chris insists he's on HRT]]</ref>

===Un-clit===
One day in September 2014, Chris decided to get [[Un-clit|a piercing on his perineum]]. Piercings require constant disinfection while they heal, anywhere on the body, even for very clean people, and so many trolls were concerned that considering Chris's general filthiness and the fact that the location of the piercing would receive very little air, there was a serious risk of infection. In December, he shared another picture of this piercing which showed that, while it wasn't infected, the piercing had begun to reject (''tearing the skin'' in the process). Making lemonade out of lemons, Chris (now in the throes of his transwoman fantasy) noted with pride the tear's semblance to a [[China|vagina]] and actually got it re-pierced, without giving the original wound any longer than about a week to heal. Fortunately, Chris gave up on it after it became clear that the piercing was going to be more hassle than it was worth, and removed it for good before any serious harm was done.

===Self-inflicted taint wound===
{{main|Self-inflicted taint wound}}

In [[July 2016]], Chris posted about a wound on his taint, announcing that he had gotten it as a result of [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]] and would be growing new labia as a result. However, as the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] later discovered, Chris actually went ahead and '''sliced himself open with a knife in order to free the vagina he thought was growing within him'''.

{{quoteboxgreen|So, Chris was feeling up his junk, and he felt something "growing in". He believed his labia were growing in. He knew, logically, that he probably should let it... ahem... "erupt" on its own, because cutting himself open is crazy and he would probably get in trouble. But one night he was drunk and was sad that someone pointed out he didn't have an actual vagina, so he thought he'd help it along.

In the morning he was very embarrassed and sheepish about it. Chris is fucking lucky he posted about it online, and got pestered into getting help by weens, because if he hadn't, he'd probably end up in the hospital, fighting off a potentially lethal infection.

So technically speaking, in Chris logic, it was indeed a wound, but his vagina was going to come out and the wound would heal and everything would be alright.

It's kind of like he was Brundlewoman and he was pulling off his old ear and face and shit, and the beautiful Pam Anderson Christine would be underneath.<ref>https://archive.md/KbKpe</ref>}}

===Rejected by a blood bank===
In January 2017, Chris complained on Facebook that he had been turned away from a blood drive for being transgender.<ref>[[January 2017 Facebook Posts]]</ref> He stated that the given reason was "the FDA saw to not accept blood from Transgender people, due to the varying levels of testosterone/estrogen balances in our blood." Chris does not realize how medically sensitive patients will be when receiving blood transfusions, and that it would not be in their interests to be taking blood with hormonal imbalances, especially from Chris, whose blood has been affected by both his unhealthy lifestyle and the dangerous intake of the unsupervised Oestrogel drug.

==Other deformities==
[[Image:Eye.jpg|thumb|"My left eye is blue, and my right eye is brown-my right is green."<ref>[[CWC Update 13 August 2009]]</ref>]]
Chris also has mild [[heterochromia]], which he claims is the result of pinkeye medicine that he took in high school. However, in a photo of a young Chris, his right eye is green.<ref>[[:Image:0043-YoungChristopher2.jpg]]</ref> He probably tells this story so people think he's [[Autism|special]].

[[/cwc/|Some]] have pointed out that Chris has an unusually wide [[wikipedia:Nasal septum|septum]], as seen in his [[MySpace]] picture.<ref>[[:File:Myspace.jpg]]</ref> Others go as far as to say he lacks one altogether. The cause of this, like his bent [[duck]], is as yet unknown.

==See also==
*[[Autism]]
*[[COVID-19]]
*[[Hair]]
*[[Obesity]]
*[[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]]

== Sources ==
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{{Health}}
{{Chris and}}
[[Category:Concepts influenced by Idea Guy]]

Obesity

2022-05-04T18:29:01Z

Necromaster:

{{Honest}}
{{HealthDisclosure}}
{{quote|One more thing, [[Chris and reality|I AM NOT OVERWEIGHT!!!!!!!!!]]|Chris, lying to a [[white knight]]<ref>[[White knight emails]]</ref>}}
{{Quote|I do not feel good hearing remarks or comments that have relation to my gut.|Chris to [[Jackie]]<ref>[[Jackie Chat 6]]</ref>}}

[[File:Ecp00066.jpg|thumb|[[List of Chris's edits to the CWCki#Christianchandler|Look at his "slender" figure.]]]]
[[Image:0839-MomDesi.JPG|thumb|The Atkins Diet apparently didn't work on [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]].]]
'''Obesity''' is perceived to be a worldwide epidemic, especially in the [[United States of America]], with about 73.6% of adults overweight and 42.5% obese, including [[Chris]].<ref>https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm ''CDC FastStats - Overweight Prevalence, 2017-2018''</ref>

Chris seems to be in denial about his own obesity. His denial is evidenced by the fact that he portrays himself as [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|a slim, barrel-chested hero]] in his [[Sonichu (comic)|comics]] and in [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE]], when he describes himself as "fit as a fiddle". Furthermore, in his numerous dating profiles discovered by the trolls, he often lists himself as having an "athletic build" or at the very least having weight that is proportionate to his height.

Another example of this was when he created a character for his comics named [[Sammy]], whom Chris stated is based off him when he "temporary [sic] gained weight, became stupid, and went to watch television at ghost command", even though he has always been this way. Except, y'know, for the Ghost Command part. But [[Chris and reality|that's]] a whole other problem.

Further cementing his obesity, on 2 [[October 2011]], Chris's voluptuous manboobs won an award on [http://web.archive.org/web/20111003142847/http://www.manboobs.co.uk/submissions/manboob_of_the_month manboobs.co.uk].

==Exercise==
[[Image:Cwcspin.gif|thumb|Chris exercising.]]

Chris believes that ''standing up without moving'' is a legitimate form of exercise, and as such considers playing ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' a workout. During one of his [[PSN]] chats with Julie, when asked to exercise more, he replied, "I'll stand up more". It is not known how Chris came to believe that standing up is exercise, but it is most likely that Chris is simply extremely lazy and will lie to say that he works out every day, even though he just plays [[video games]]. It's possible he's picked it up from health tips that say standing burns more calories than sitting down,<ref>http://www.rd.com/living-healthy/8-ways-to-burn-calories-without-noticing/article16261.html ''Reader's Digest.'' See tip #3</ref><ref>http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/office-exercise/SM00115 ''Mayo Clinic.'' See tip #2</ref> but rather than use such tips to get the most out of an already busy lifestyle, he substitutes it for actual exercise altogether. It's also entirely possible he's in such terrible shape that the simple act of standing tires him as much as an actual workout would tire a normal human being.

[[Emily]] has said Chris power-walks around his neighborhood for thirty minutes and claims it's two miles (3 km), then claims to jog for two or three minutes every walk. She then went on to say Chris doesn't know how to jog — his idea of jogging is actually sprinting. It's safe to say he tries to run at "[[Sonic]] speed" for ten seconds, then resumes his leisurely waddle. This theory is confirmed in [[Sonichu's Edge]].

In [[Mailbag 21]], Chris claimed that he planned on investing in a gym membership. Judging by photographs and videos featuring his midsection from subsequent months, he either lied or wasted his money.

In his [[Jail Letter - 8 November 2021 (RadioRabbit0)|letter to radiorabbit0]], he mentioned playing basketball to pass the time while awaiting trial.

==Diet==
[[File:Hypnosis for fatter ass.png|thumb|200px|Chris actually believes [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis|binaural beats]] will [[Chris and reality|magically transform]] his fat gut and ass into an hourglass figure.]]

Another contribution to Chris' obesity is the food he eats. Chris' [[Chris and nutrition|diet]] is appalling, consisting mainly of fast food and other unhealthy foodstuffs. While it would be acceptable if he treated himself to that stuff occasionally (like most people do), there's no question that it's a staple of his diet. The sheer amount of calories he consumes, coupled with his laziness, means that he's carrying around enough extra mass to make another person. His diet will most likely also cause problems other than obesity, and may be the cause of his [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|fecal leakage]].

[[File:Coke, Unicorn cosplay.jpg|thumb|left|150px|You know Chris didn't share that bottle with anyone.]]
In 2017, Chris decided that his ass wasn't fat enough, and began listening to a subliminal hypnosis track in the hopes of transferring his belly fat to his ass, as an attempt to obtain an hourglass figure.

{{clear}}

==Actual weight claims==

{{quote|Seriously, though, the last few times I looked on my smart scale of how much I weighed, without clothes, at above 210, I hopped off immediately without letting it sync with my Fitbit app. ALOL|Chris, January 2019<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1082811421363261441</ref>}}

[[File:weightovertimev2.png|thumb|500px|A graph of Chris's (reported) weight over the years.]]

[[File:Burlesque1.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris's weight in [[June 2015]].]]

Modern measurement of whether someone is overweight or obese generally employs the [[Wikipedia:Body mass index|BMI]] system, which creates an index based on the height and weight of an individual. This system is by no means perfect; the readings tend to be inaccurately high for people who are exceptionally tall, have heavily set bodies or are very muscular, because these people have more bone or muscle weight than others. However, it is a very accurate system when applied to people of average height, bone structure and muscle build – which Chris is.

One of the two factors required to calculate BMI is height. Chris currently claims to be 5′ 10″ (178 cm),<ref>[[The Hook Cafe#Characteristics]]</ref> which is possible, but even at this height, his BMI would never have been under the "overweight" bracket since he began to record it in 2000. Given how readily [[List of Chris's Lies|Chris lies to serve himself]], he may be shorter, which would render his BMI in the "obese" range. In a [[26_December_2014#Police_Scanner_Video|police scanner report]] from 2014, he was described as being 5′ 9″ (1.75 m), and his [[List of cards from The Wall of Originals|custom ''Pokémon'' cards]] from 2000, 2002 and 2004 all give his "length" as 5′ 9″. For the sake of simplicity, the BMI data listed below is based on his current self-reported height of 5′ 10″.

* 9 May 2000 - Chris's "Christian's Christian" [[List of cards from The Wall of Originals|custom Pokémon card]] gives his weight as 185 lbs. (80 kg).<ref>[[:File:099-CWCsCWC.jpg]]</ref>

* 25 March 2002 - Chris's "Dark Christian" [[List of cards from The Wall of Originals|custom Pokémon card]] gives his weight as 185 lbs. (80 kg).<ref>[[:File:100-DarkCWC.jpg]]</ref>

* 2 February 2004 - Chris's "Christian Chandler" [[List of cards from The Wall of Originals|custom Pokémon card]] gives his weight as 165 lbs. (75 kg).<ref>[[:File:098-CWCCard1.jpg]]</ref>

* 20 July 2005 - In a [[Diary]] entry, Chris reported that his weight was '''180 pounds''' (about 80 kg),<ref>[[CWC's Diary#2005]]</ref> meaning that during that time his BMI was 25.8, which is only slightly overweight.

* Fall 2009 - Chris told Kacey that his weight was somewhere between '''215 and 220 pounds''' (98–100 kg),<ref>[[Kacey Call 12]]</ref> meaning his BMI was between 30.8 and 31.6, nudging him into the obese range.

* Fall 2009 - In a later conversation with Kacey, Chris said that at a recent doctor's visit he had weighed in at '''205 pounds''' (93 kg), down from 216 the last time he had been there.<ref>[[Kacey Call 19]]</ref>

* February 2010 - Chris claimed to weigh "'''about 200 [pounds]'''" (91 kg), and also admitted to having once weighed more than 220 pounds (100 kg). Even if we interpret the words "about 200" to mean 190, his BMI at the time would still be 27.3, i.e. overweight, nearing obesity. He also claimed at this time that his goal was to get down to 180 pounds (82 kg).<ref>[[Mailbag 54#Fatty]]</ref>

* October 2010 - In the [[WeighIn|WeighIn video]], Chris claimed to weigh '''216 pounds''' (97 kg). This seems very unrealistic, given his apparent girth and food consumption. Most [[trolls|experts]] believe that Chris either offset his scale by 40 or 50 pounds, or that he did not fully stand on the scale in order to fool people into believing he's not extremely fat. It is also possible that Chris's years of inactivity had caused his muscles to deteriorate to the point that he looked like he weighed more than 250 pounds, when actually he was just 216 pounds of pure fat. Even if we assume that he indeed weighed only 216 lbs at the time, this would still put his BMI at 31, making him '''obese'''.

* April 2012 - Chris announced on Facebook that he was "going down to '''223''' <nowiki>[101 kg]</nowiki> and falling."<ref>[[April 2012 Facebook posts]]</ref>

* July 2013 - Chris again posted to Facebook that he was "down to '''220'''" (~100 kg).<ref>[[July 2013 Facebook Posts]]</ref>

* October 2013 - Just three months later, Chris told Facebook that according to his doctor's visit he weighed '''211 pounds''' (96 kg), and had lost seven pounds since last he checked.<ref>[[October 2013 Facebook Posts]]</ref>

* January 2014 - Chris asserted on Facebook that he weighed "'''about 202 pounds'''" (91 kg). While many would be quick to dismiss this solely on the basis that he eats at McDonald's regularly, at least one report shows that it can't be the sole factor, due to [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2533353/Forget-Super-Size-Me-Man-loses-37lbs-lowers-cholesterol-eating-McDonalds-three-months.html one individual actually ''losing weight'' on a pure McDonald's diet]. However, given the sheer deluge of fast/processed food Chris eats from other places, the non-existence of an exercise regimen, and the simple fact that his face is a lot fatter compared to previous photographs of him, this claim that he weighs 202 pounds is ''very'' dubious.<ref>[[January 2014 Facebook Posts]]</ref>

* October 2014 - Chris defensively told his friend Shaina that he weighed "'''around 200''' <nowiki>[91 kg]</nowiki>, give or take two or three."<ref>[[Open Relationship E-mails]]</ref>

* January 2018 - At [[MAGfest]], Chris said that he was '''"212 pounds of awesome"''' at the ''Christory of Sonichu'' panel.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/1-6-chris-at-magfest.38143/page-16#post-2931683</ref> Later, when he praised a fan who lifted him with a bear hug, Chris stated that his weight was more than 212 pounds, congratulating the fan on his strength.<ref>[[January 2018 tweets#Much love for MAGfest fans]]</ref>

* January 2019 - Chris self-consciously reported his weight at '''213 pounds''' (96 kg).<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1082809505367367680</ref> Three days later, Chris posted on Twitter data from his Aria 2 Smart Scale and Fitbit app that displayed his weight as '''209.7 pounds''' (95.1 kg) with his BMI listed as 29.4, nearly inside of the obese range.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1083935703698935808</ref> The readout from the smart scale also displayed Chris' Percent Body Fat as 45.3%, for comparison, PBF greater than 25% is considered obese for men while greater than 32% is obese for women. Chris stated that he wants to use his [[treadmill]] to slim down to 200 and eventually 179 pounds.

* November 2021 - Chris, after three months imprisoned, gave his weight as '''203 pounds''' (92 kg). Presumably this is due to the low quality and amount of food available to prisoners. Chris described this weight as "appropriate to my Human Form's Five Foot, Eleven Inch Height", although with a BMI of 28.3 he is still very much overweight.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 16 November 2021]]</ref>

* May 2022 - Chris, after returning from his temporary transfer from jail has lost quite a lot of weight in his latest mugshot, noticeably even losing his double chin. His actual weight has not been discovered yet however due to his lack of contact with the outside world.

==Health==
''Main article: [[Chris and health]]''

Obviously, all this has an adverse effect on Chris' health. Morbidly obese people are far more likely to develop diabetes, heart disease, and a number of other ailments. While it is admittedly possible to be fat '''and''' fit, Chris' lifestyle, combined with ample evidence of his lack of physical prowess, means that this does not apply to him.

==Denial==
{{Quote|He's fat! Iiiiii'm thin!|Chris breaking out into chorus on [[Alec Benson Leary]]<ref>[[Christopher Paul Whitney reveal]]</ref>}}
[[Image:FattyLOL.jpg|thumb|180px|Horizontal stripes are very slimming!]]

Chris has generally been in denial about his weight. When a white knight once told him that he needed to lose some weight if he ever wanted to get a girlfriend, Chris responded by freaking out and exclaiming that he wasn't overweight.<ref>[[White knight E-mails#September 2008 .E2.80.94 Chris denies being fat and sexist]]</ref> In [[IRC]], Chris has been known to become very defensive about his weight, always making claims that he works out, when in fact he just stands up while playing ''Guitar Hero''. Chris's reaction to being called fat is precisely the same as his reaction to being called [[homos|gay]]. Unfortunately for Chris, there isn't a [[Homo#Defenses_against_becoming_homo|poster that will help him lose weight]]. He simply screams that he isn't fat, then oftentimes lies, and calls the person accusing him fat. He exhibited this behavior during an email with [[Evan]],<ref>[[Masturbating_and_squirtin%27#Transcript of Chrisreply1evan.jpg|1st email to Evan]]</ref> during his phone call with [[Father Call|Kacey's father]], and especially in his conversation with [[Kacey and Liquid Call|Kacey and Liquid Chris]], where insults about his weight triggered a screaming rage.

However, during his original rivalry with [[Liquid Chris]], Chris once finally admitted he was perhaps maybe just a little bit fat, but only because he could use this as proof that he was the ''real'' Christian Weston Chandler. A similar problem arose during the [[Asperchu]] saga, where Chris, in an attempt to prove that Asperchu was a parody of himself, was forced to admit that Asperchu's "Buddha belly" and "man boobs" are similar to his own. More specifically, he acts as though he ''used'' to have a sagging gut, even though he has, in fact, significantly gained weight since [[high school]]. He chose to focus on this aspect of Asperchu rather than admit his more embarrassing failures the series parodies. He did once admit in a [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call|phone call]] with [[Jack Thaddeus]] that he was not fit.

There is also convincing evidence that [[autism|Chris has difficulty recognizing]] the human figure — faces in particular. His consistent representation of himself as slender and athletic may be attributable to his having formed his self-image during high school, when he would spend hours studying his then-scrawnier self in the mirror, memorizing his looks. However, this is unlikely as Chris has never "spent hours studying" anything.<ref> [[Sonichu_7#Episode_16:_.22Time_Hogs.22|''Sonichu'' #7]] - "…I had to train my brain to visually remember what I looked like…"</ref>

Chris passed a kidney stone on July 9, 2017. According to the Mayo Clinic,<ref>http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/kidney-stones/symptoms-causes/dxc-20319562</ref> some causes of kidney stones include dehydration, certain diets that are rich in protein, sodium, and sugar, and being obese, which makes sense, seeing as Chris is fat, eats a lot of fast food, which is rich in sodium and sugar, and he commonly drinks soda over water, which unlike water, doesn't do well for hydration.

==In the comic==
[[File:SchuComic12-1P96.jpg|thumb|Fat Rosechu]]
Obesity in the ''Sonichu'' comic is largely limited to villains like [[Robotnik]] or the [[Jerkhief]] and comic relief like [[Sammy]], but [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]] contains a bizarre sequence in which [[Rosechu]] and [[Cera]] balloon up before later losing 200 pounds in two weeks. This was done to appeal to [[Jessica Quinn]], who had a fat fetish.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/CLog_10042017_-_Q%26A_1#Question_12:_About_the_Rosechu_weight_gain</ref><ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_Facebook_posts#Quinn.27s_missing_out</ref>

==See also==
* [[Chris and health]]
* [[Muscle bra|Manboobs]]
* [[McDonald's]]
* [[Burger King]]
* [[List of restaurants]]

==References==
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{{Health}}
[[Category:Physical characteristics]]

Chris and money

2022-04-30T11:15:50Z

Necromaster: added a quote for the c and w quarters

{{Articleofthenow}}
{{Dated|information regarding the incest arrest}}
[[File:Cwcshutup.png|thumb|Chris's response to literally any commercial.]]

{{quote|I'd call a tow truck, but now I have less than $20 between the bank accounts and PayPal.|Chris, after his car broke down on the way home from BronyCon.<ref>[[Waiting for the tow truck]]</ref>}}

{{quote|He's [[Mathematics|not good at math]] when it comes to managing money.|[[Bob Chandler]], understating it.<ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript]]</ref>}}

Chris has repeatedly shown though his actions and words that he has no idea how to handle '''money''' or manage his own finances. Between his impulse spending, [[Chris and his Ego|his greed and selfishness]], his unwillingness to save even the smallest amount of money, and his massive sense of entitlement, Chris manages to demonstrate complete incompetence and ineptitude in managing financial affairs. Chris has repeatedly amassed debt on credit cards, only to have his enabling parents bail him out multiple times. [[Monthly tugboat|Too lazy to work]], he refuses to make or follow any type of budget or financial plan, instead spending far beyond his means, and expecting others<ref>:File:Piss_and_burn_fb.PNG</ref> to pay off his accumulated debt for him. It is clear that [[Autism|Chris has no idea what financial responsibility is]] and that his enabling, delusional parents taught him nothing about how to handle finances while he was growing up. Irresponsible, careless, and thoughtless, Chris fails at just about every aspect of financial management that can be thought of.

==But wait, Chris isn't employed!==
:''Further reading: [[Chris and work]]''
For the vast majority of Chris's "adult" life, his only source of income has been the "[[tugboat]]" that he receives from the U.S. federal government every month. In 2009, the payout was $809 a month, placing his annual income at $9,708. After Bob's death, Chris was given a survivor's benefit – increasing the amount to $1,300 per month and making his annual income $15,600. Barb's income, from Social Security and a pension, is around $1,200 per month or $14,400 per year.<ref>https://archive.md/DLyOa</ref>

Chris's parents originally took $450 to pay for room and board;<ref name="Miyamoto" /> this payment was later increased to $565, and then to $580, after Bob paid off Chris's enormous credit card debt.<ref>[[Vivian Gee E-mails, 2009#8 December]]</ref><ref>[[Jackie Chat 8]]</ref> The rest of the tugboat generally goes towards [[List of Chris's games|video games]], [[McDonald's|junk food]], or [[sex toys|other frivolous purchases]]. However, $229 per month (about $7.50 per day) was (and is) nowhere near enough to satisfy Chris's need for electronic entertainment, pornography, [[PlayStation Network]] downloads, a constant supply of [[McDonald's|Chicken McNuggets]], gallons of [[Coke]], and, since the summer of [[2009]], [[alcohol]]. As of [[January 2010]], he owed roughly $3,500 in credit card debt, some on cards of his own and some on cards he stole from his parents. Indeed, according to one of his bank statements,<ref>[[:File:StatementforViv01,2010.jpg]]</ref><ref>[[:File:StatementforViv01,2010-2.jpg]]</ref> at the end of one month he had fewer than $3 left in his account. Even more, just by straight spending and no other extra income, he put himself $452.57 in the red. How much he gets to keep these days isn't known.

{{quote|My father helped me get my Social Security set up; I get more a month than I could at a job. Yet with my impuslive [sic] shoppiness [sic] (mostly controable [sic]), I end up spending my side-money after I get it.|Chris, [[Chris and His Ego|completely deluded and taking pride in being a lazy bastard]].<ref name="Miyamoto">[[Miyamoto Saga]]</ref>}}

===Chris and impulse spending===
It's obvious that Chris has no grasp on the real value of money, since he actively wastes as much of his monthly tugboat as possible on things like [[The Eye of Judgement|trading cards]], [[Officer Nasty|sex toys]], [[Duck|porn]], [[List of Chris's video games|video games]], [[alcohol]], [[Kaka Makeup Basics|make-up]], [[Lego|toys]], [[Mia Hamm|prostitutes]] and weekly lottery tickets.<ref name=J12>[[Jackie E-mails 12]]</ref>

Chris is a self-admitted impulse buyer.<ref name="Miyamoto" /> His [[PlayStation Network]] account shows that he's never played more than half of the games he's bought. And yet, astoundingly, he's still gone out of his way to buy ''all'' available downloadable content for ''every'' single [[PlayStation 3]] game that he's ever purchased, and even for ''games he doesn't own'', and he also further promoted his [[Chris and brand loyalty|Sony fanboyism]] by later buying a Sony LCD HDTV for his bedroom which likely cost about $1,000-$1,500. All the while, Chris bought his [[Chris and fashion|clothes]] at second-hand discount thrift stores. Usually, children are taught the value of money at a very young age – not in Chris's case, apparently.

In September [[2013]], Chris complained about he and his mom going through "emotionally depressing, and Financial Downfall to the depths of Greatly Poor and Just Getting By", making it clear that the family income had dipped since Bob's passing. However, these supposedly lean times were apparently not enough to motivate Chris to get a job, or even to stop buying games, as evidenced by him racking up over $1,000 in game purchases on ''The Simpsons: Tapped Out''.<ref>https://archive.md/TIc2V</ref>

Throughout the summer of 2014, Chris continued to spend thousands of dollars on [[Lego]] and other frivolities, all while whining and complaining on Facebook about his and his mother's poor finances. Chris financed this spending primarily with money from selling custom arts and crafts on his eBay account. Offering free shipping to customers, Chris would receive money from customers, and then pay for shipping out of his own pocket. However, Chris would immediately spend money as soon as it was deposited into his account, often leaving him unable to ship products to customers who had already paid him because of his own financial irresponsibility and negligence.

When several of Chris's eBay customers filed complaints against him because Chris failed to ship a order as promised and obligated, Chris responded by harassing and trolling the customers, posting their personal information in a public post on his Facebook account. In light of this, Chris's future money making prospects from eBay are dim, as most prospective future customers probably wouldn't want to risk being harassed or scammed by Chris.

All the while, even as Chris's credit card debt continued to spiral out of control, Chris continued to buy thousands of dollars of video games, Lego, and other frivolities. As if this were not bad enough, just days after putting his and Barb's cars up for sale (at exorbitant prices), Chris went out and bought a 2010 Ford Focus, stating on Facebook that he had been approved for a loan, probably at a high interest rate. He also stated that paying for insurance on his new car was "killing" him, implying that either the insurance payment was costly, that he was having trouble paying it, or both.

In January 2015, it was [[CWCki Forums|leaked]] that Chris had spent an absurd amount of money on Nintendo consoles and games, racking up '''585''' transactions in the last 4.5 years,<ref>https://archive.md/zibG2</ref> a list which includes useless shovelware, hoards of 1st-party Nintendo software, Virtual Console games and [[Sonic Boom Protests|both versions of a game he doesn't even like]]. 276 of these purchases are known to be handheld games, 8 are known to be video game consoles (buying '''4''' DSs and DSis), and 75 which are known to be console games. The grand total cost of all Chris's '''listed''' purchases is '''$7460.43''' or '''$1657.87/year'''. Keep in mind 39% of purchases Chris has on his account are not yet specified, meaning that their cost is not included in this already insanely high number. This information comes on the heels of Chris begging people for money to fix his mother's cavities, as well as the financial worries that his trials will undoubtedly cause.

In [[July 2016]], a field agent provided the following account of Chris, in a painfully awkward situation where he did not have enough cash to pay for his junk food at a gas station:<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-thoughts-questions.661/page-601#post-1615438 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20180721232218/https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-thoughts-questions.661/page-601#post-1615438 archive])</ref>

{{quotebox|My friend walks into a gas station/convenience store on the northern edge of Charlottesville.
Chris is trying to buy $7 or so of junk food type stuff, but he only has $5 in cash.
The cashier tries to make understand he owes $2 more. Chris seems to understand, but is slow to process what to do about it.
My friend who is second in line, picks out two ones, says "here you go" and puts them on the counter.
Chris, it seems more out of stupidity and confusion than malice, picks up the $2 and his purchases and makes to leave.
My friend and the cashier, both object and yell that he has to leave the $2 with the cashier.
Chris doesn't seem to react.
A dude who was behind both of them in line is between Chris and the door. As Chris passes him, he taps him to get his attention, and says something like "Hey buddy ..."
Chris makes a get-away-from-me hand wavy gesture without looking at any of the three of them, and fairly loudly says "It's Miss!" and hurries out the door.
Chris continues to his car in a half run, half walk, as all three of the people in the store watch confused and amused.
Chris pulls out of the parking spot, but for some reason heads towards the back of the lot, where there is no exit.
As Chris gets to the back of the lot, he stops, backs up a few feet, tries to turn the car around, doesn't make it, backs up again, and finally gets around. Essentially making a 5 point turn in a fairly large empty parking lot.
Chris drives past the store again not looking inside, and finally drives off.}}

One dreads to imagine how his financial incompetence will affect him once Barb is dead - knowing Chris, and while it is quite tragic, he'll probably continue in his destructive spending patterns until he loses everything he has, and even then, he'll [[Ego|learn nothing]].

===Chris's parental enabling===
Bob encouraged his son to remain unemployed, since he believed that Chris would earn more money from his monthly tugboat than he would have from getting a job. However, this assumption was and is inaccurate. Minimum wage in the state of [[Virginia]] is $7.25 an hour. If Chris were to somehow do a complete 180° on his life and begin working a full 40-hour week, his monthly payment before taxes and payment for room and board would be about $1,260: that's $15,100 annually. Subtracting the money he pays his mom every month to live, as well as the 5% tax his income range mandates in the state of Virginia, Chris could very likely be left with a ridiculous $8,000, which knowing Chris, would be spent on yet more frivolities. Contrast this with the $2,748 Chris pulled in annually from the government after paying off his parents, and it becomes clear that Bob's encouragement came from either thinking Chris would lose his social security if employed (which he wouldn't) or the more accurate notion that his son is a useless failure.

A very likely explanation for Chris's reckless spending is that his parents are at fault (to a degree at least). In addition to coddling him throughout his entire life, they managed to make sure that [[Chris and remorse|Chris has never felt the repercussions for his exorbitant spending (or for anything else)]] by taking over paying Chris's credit card debt, regularly giving him about "$6 a day for small things", buying him [[List of restaurants|fast food]] on a daily basis, and continuing to let himself blow all his money on frivolities and useless stuff, as opposed to essentials like [[Chris and health#Chris and hygiene|hygiene products]], [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|courses that could eventually help him onto the employment ladder]] or [[Clown shirt|clothing that isn't unbelievably tacky]]. Whenever Chris manages to [[The GAMe PLACe|get himself into trouble]], he knows that [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] will come [[Matthew Noble call|running to his aid and defend him]] and dig him out of whatever mess he's managed to get himself into, even if it is clear that he [[Get-Tar Region|is in the wrong]]. This enabling is the most likely explanation (in addition to his [[Autism|poor impulse control]]) for why Chris spends himself into debt as much as he does.

===Fan funding===
{{main|List of Chris's financial enablers}}

===Chris's beliefs===
[[File:Chris's economic theories.jpeg|thumb|right]]
Chris believes that by receiving and spending his tugboat on useless junk, he is aiding the economy and paying for other people's tugboats.<ref>[[Mailbag 34#In which Chris fails economics forever]]</ref> This is a [[Honor roll|damningly moronic conviction]], since sales tax goes to the state government and these "tugboats" are paid with ''federal'' payroll tax. Where Chris is hiding the printing press to afford this discretionary spending is unknown.

Interestingly enough, while he has no clue how to handle money, Chris has an unhealthy [[Chris and his Ego|fixation]] on his material possessions. In [[Vivitheg's AIM chat]], he stated that he did not want to sell any of his stuff, and in the [[Miyamoto Saga]], he refused to sell anything to help raise money for the trip to Redmond. While Chris mocked [[Lars]]’s habit of buying and collecting [[Lars' Ship has Sunk.MOV|model boats and addons for them]] after learning about it from [[Jackie]], he failed to realise that Lars’s supposed habit was directly parodying his obsessive purchasing and hoarding of video games and DLC, even for games that he didn’t own. His mother has served as a bad influence regarding Chris’s beliefs in material goods, as she would frequently shop at Goodwill and compulsively hoard the purchases, which both wasted money and helped turn their house into a [[Destruction Of Chris's House|fire hazard]].

On 16 [[May 2019]], Chris tweeted a screenshot of an NBC story about how "Ex-EPA chief Scott Pruitt spent nearly $124,000 on 'excessive airfare'." Chris then showed off his complex views on the U.S. economy by saying... {{quotebox|Hey, Everyone. Here’s a Think Piece: firstly, if people didn’t overspend so much, then there would be more money to give to charities around the world. And then that brought to mind that if things had not gone up in price (I Know About Inflation and that More Money has been officially printed and distributed over the decades), there would be more to freely give to those unfortunate. “Why, Back in the day, we used to pay a Nickel for a Hershey Bar. A Nickle! Now, it’s a dollar, dollar-fiddy; we could be using that $1.45 to feed the hungry everywhere. But, Everyone got greedy for the green and don’t appreciate it as much. A Nickel.” Yep, Grandpa, people have done goofed with inflation and crap. 😔}}<ref>[[May 2019 social media posts#Chris has complex economic views]]</ref>

===After the house fire===
On [[10 January 2014]], 14 Branchland Court caught fire. This would undoubtedly place the Chandlers in grim circumstances, due to the costs of rebuilding the home and replacing what was lost. Some of his fans pooled their funds to send him a care package, with a money order for $500.<ref>[[Destruction Of Chris's House#Aftermath and reaction]]</ref>

Many, concerned about Chris due to his wasteful spending habits, hoped that this would be the moment in Chris's life where he finally woke up and realized the importance of saving when things like this happen. Unfortunately, not even ''that'' has broken Chris's thick skull – throughout 2014, he wasted '''$5,000''' on ''Lego sets''.<ref>[[Lego#Addiction and Financial Ruin]]</ref><ref>[[May 2014 Facebook Posts]]</ref>

==Barb's toxic influence==
According to a troll with insider info, Chris was able to manage his own finances to a rudimentary degree, even after Bob passed away,<ref>https://archive.md/jt1fU</ref> although he still has an issue with not saving money for [[Destruction Of Chris's House|potential emergencies]].

The troll also asserted that Chris's financial hardships are caused, in most part, by [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] helping herself to Chris's monetary accounts in order to attempt paying her out-of-control debts.<ref>https://archive.md/jt1fU</ref>

{{quotebox|Barb is the one who has serious debt. She fucks up Chris' budgeting by erratically taking money from Chris' account when she needs it, generally without warning.

There are two types of Chris begging videos. One is when Chris wants a bit extra for some legos. You can identify those videos by how vague Chris' requests are, and how relaxed Chris is in the video. Chris isn't in meltdown mode in those videos.

Now, the other type of video is when Barb tried to snatch some money from Chris and Chris doesn't have anything for her. You can identify those videos by how freaked out Chris looks. He's visibly distressed and he's citing specific bills he's got to pay, usually things that seem un-Chris-like. That's when Barb is freaking out at him for not having enough money to pay her debts.

The thing is, the perception is that Chris is bad with money. He's not bad with money (as far as monthly budgeting goes). Despite how foggy Chris' head is, he's got enough memory to recognize patterns in bills over the course of a few months. He knows he's gotta pay electricity bills and rent and things like that. And he does do the math each month about what bills he's got to pay, and how much that leaves him for legos and food. You can't trust his begging. He begs because he wants more money, not because he's in any financial straits (that is, not including Barb).

He lives cheaply as shit. He saves money by buying dollar store shit. He's the type of person to buy single ply toilet paper at the dollar store. But sometimes he'll splurge and treat himself to things, like alcohol. He does this all while meeting his obligations, like his minimum payments and his bills.}}

Information from Cousin Al<ref>[[Catherine#The bowling outing]]</ref> revealed that Chris and Barb '''had''' an inheritance from Bob worth "tens of thousands of dollars". However, Barb spent all of it on hiring Rob Bell to defend herself (...and Chris) from legal charges incurred after [[28 October 2011|the two of them hit Michael Snyder with a car]]. It should be noted that a state-provided attorney would have been free and yielded the same result (pleading guilty), for the case was so cut-and-dry that even a lawyer of Bell's caliber had no chance of winning it.

In November 2014, Chris revealed to Renee that Barb was borrowing money from his life insurance.<ref>[[Open Relationship E-mails#Barb is borrowing from Chris's life insurance]]</ref>

===Bank lawsuits against Barb===
In 2016, two banks, Discovery and Capital One, sued Barb for not paying '''over $20,000 total''' in debts, leaving the Chandlers ''even further'' in financial turmoil.

Barb herself appeared in multiple videos in 2016-17, trying to scam people into donating to her.

*[[Donations Required, Serious. Please help]]
*[[Donations Requested, Please]]
*[[Donations Further Requested, Please]]
*[[EMERGENCY HOME UPDATE]]

In the first two videos, Barb claimed not to have enough money for asthma medication, and in the third, she claimed to need money for dental work.

If Barb actually needed money for an emergency, she could simply have instructed Chris to sell some of their possessions. In the videos, Chris's toys and Barb's hoard are clearly visible behind them.

==Debt==
{{main|Debt}}

==Money-Making Schemes==
===Wheeling and Dealing===
Also known as {{w|return fraud}}. Chris has a habit of buying a product from one store for a lower cost, then exchanging it for a higher amount of store credit at another store.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 15]]</ref>

===Lottery===
Chris considers the lottery to be ''an investment'', and not a form of gambling in reality. In September 2010, he told Jackie the following:<ref name=J12/>

{{quotebox|I invest $4 weekly between Win For Life and Mega Millions; two plays each.}}

Cash4Life and Mega Millions currently costs $2 per play (as of 29 March 2021),<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20210329061252/https://www.valottery.com/data/draw-games/megamillions Mega Millions] and [https://web.archive.org/web/20210329061444/https://www.valottery.com/data/draw-games/cash4life Win For Life] descriptions on the official site of Virginia Lottery, accessed 29 March 2021.</ref> meaning that if Chris stopped playing the lottery, he would save around $416 per year.

===Craigslist===
[[File:Chris chan bmw.jpg|thumb|right|The Craigslist ad.]]
{{main|Craigslist}}
In late [[October 2011]], Chris posted a Craigslist ad for a 12-year-old 32" CRT television and expected a non-negotiable $250 for it;<ref>[[Craigslist#Television]]</ref> in reality, this is about the price of a new flatscreen HDTV of that size, and he would be lucky to get a tenth of his asking price.

Chris placed two cars for sale on Craigslist in September 2014. One was a dilapidated, rusty 1997 Cadillac with a cracked engine block that hadn't run in over a year. Despite having a market value (as scrap) of approximately $150, Chris demanded $5,000 for the automobile, insisting that the cracked engine block made the car a great [[Chris and reality|"fixer upper."]] Chris also placed his mother's BMW z3 for sale. The 1999 BMW z3 is currently listed on the Roanoke Craigslist for $10,000 OBO. Kelley Blue Book estimates the car with 70,000 miles and in a fair condition is worth $4,318. Chris describes the car as "Mint condition Z3 model. Like a go-cart with rocket power. Seriously fun to drive 5 speed and pure joy with the top down. Color is jet black."

===Pawn shops===
{{main|List of Chris's video games#Chris (barely) lets go}}

Chris occasionally visits pawn shops or similar businesses, among them Snooky's Pawn Shop, GameStop and Plan 9 Music, to sell his old toys so that he can afford new ones.

===eBay===
{{main|eBay}}
Chris has long used eBay to sell bits of his toy hoard. He doesn’t put much effort into researching prices, and often lists items at vastly inflated prices. In August 2016, he listed a used VHS of ''Aladdin'' with a 'Buy it Now' price of ''$3,000''. There were no (legitimate) takers, probably because one can buy the same edition on Amazon for ''one penny'' (plus shipping, but still).

In June 2019, Chris’s account [[EBay#Suspension_of_Chris's_eBay|was restricted]], and all of the active listings were removed. Two reasons for the restriction against Chris are possible: either his seller approval rating was abysmal (84.7% on 21 June 2019),<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20190621113537/https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=pristinechristine1982&ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true&rt=nc Wayback Machine’s snapshot] of pristinechristine1982’s eBay feedback, archived and accessed 21 June 2019.</ref> or that his PayPal account was in the red.

===Cwcville Shopping===
{{main|Chris and business}}
From 2014-2016, Chris sold custom arts and crafts, finally monetizing Sonichu, through [[eBay]], [[Etsy]] and [[Lulu]], before losing his business due to [[PS4|stress]].

===Kickstarter===
{{main|Kickstarter}}
On 23 September 2014, Chris opened a Kickstarter project, asking for $5,000 to build the CWCville shopping mall out of LEGO. At the end of the campaign, Chris raised $150 from 27 backers, causing the campaign to fail and Chris never seeing the money.

===YouTube monetization===
Chris has monetized most of the videos which appear on his YouTube channel, as another way of [[Etsy|profiting]] from his internet infamy. As further proof of Chris's entitlement issues, [[CatKnight Interview|Arthur Spatchcock]] discovered that at one point around [[March 2016]], Chris received $80 and was "pissed" that he hadn't gotten more.<ref>https://archive.md/pJZj4</ref>

{{quotebox|This is going to become a pattern. Chris is going to do one of his 'Let's Plays' followed by an e-begging video and then polish it off by purchasing some dumb thing he doesn't need in excess of fifty bucks. He knows how this system works and it's the greatest amount of payoff with the least amount of work; the first time when Chris played Destiny he made 80$ from Youtube(And was surprisingly pissed it was that small, fuck that, I want eighty bucks from Youtube). Then he makes a video whining about how he needs more money and lo and behold, he gets even more~! If anything people are contributing to his float and that convinces him he can get away with being frivolous that much more. }}

Social Blade estimates that as of 12 December 2019, Chris could earn between $245 and $3,900 per year,<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20191212192942/https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/cwcvilleguardian Social Blade]</ref> but there are many factors, such as Content ID claims, that make it very difficult to estimate the true value of any YouTube channel.

===Let’s Plays===
In [[March 2016]], [[CatKnight Interview|Arthur Spatchcock]] introduced Chris to the idea of doing Let's Plays to boost his online activity and help him gain some money through YouTube's monetization program<ref>https://archive.md/e0D8M</ref><ref>https://archive.md/pJZj4</ref>. The plan fell apart after Let's Plays of ''[[CWC's Destiny start|Destiny]]'' and ''[[Live Game Stream - Uncharted|Uncharted]]'', since by that point, Chris was [[Chris and Health|too lazy]] to play video games for money, and he simply wanted to [[Financhu Crisis|beg from his audience]] instead.

===YouTube Support button===
On 23 May 2016, Chris [[Live Game Stream - Uncharted|announced]] the debut of a Support button on his YouTube channel to replace the Etsy donation listing (which was forcibly removed due to it violating Etsy's TOS). He apparently got this idea from [[William Elliott Waterman]].<ref>[[https://archive.md/2ksJJ]]</ref>

===Paypal.me===
Announced on 11 [[May 2017]].

{{quotebox|Cwcville Shopping I am the original creator of Sonichu and Rosechu, with more than eleven comic books worth of content under my helm. Please donate to help me quell my financial problems that quell my creativity. Ruckersville, VA}}

===Prostitution===
On 19 June 2016, aka Father’s Day, Chris decided to become [[Women Only Need Apply - No STD's|a prostitute]].

He has yet to receive any takers.

===Begging===
{{main|Financhu Crisis}}
[[File:Please, Donate (720p).mp400001.png|thumb|Chris, proving he has zero self-awareness]]
One of the earliest instances of Chris e-begging for money was in [[9 December 2009|December of 2009]]. Chris exhorted his alleged European [[Trolls|fanbase]] to donate €1,000 in order to remove troll ads from the CWCipedia.

In 2014, after his house [[Destruction Of Chris's House|caught fire]], Chris again resorted to e-begging for money, placing extra emphasis on ''"My mother and I really need the money,"'' despite dropping more than '''$5,000''' on expensive [[Lego]] sets to feed his worsening addiction. One would think that Chris would have wised up to the fact that his wanton spending and lack of gainful employment are contributing to his woes, but one glance at his [[May 2014 Facebook Posts]] could easily tell you that he's seeing his situation as an avenue to get stuff from people, the most ridiculous of which being a "$300 Sea Cow" on his wish list, which would not benefit anybody but himself in the slightest.

In 2016, Chris's e-begging drastically increased, as a result of the Chandlers' stubborn refusal to live within their means. That year saw Chris spend over $1,000 on toys, while both Chris and Barb had court cases resolved which penalized them with steep costs. In addition, Barb joined in to the begging, appearing in three videos so far.<ref>[[Donations Required, Serious. Please help]]</ref><ref>[[Donations Requested, Please]]</ref><ref>[[Donations Further Requested, Please]]</ref>

He asked for donations, or at least mentioned them, in many of the posts and videos he made in 2015 through 2016. At first, this was supposedly to fund his production of Sonichu merchandise, but he later shifted to saying that he and Barb needed help with paying the bills and buying groceries. While it's entirely possible that Chris was simply lying to get more money for [[Lego|useless]] [[Video games|crap]], this indicates that the financial hardships, which [[White knights|many]] [[Trolls|people]] have warned him about, have finally arrived. Only time will tell how his financial situation ultimately plays out, but given his attitude and inaction, the future definitely doesn't seem bright.

=== Theft ===
On 30 [[July 2021]], after Chris was served an Emergency Protective Order temporarily forbidding him from his home, he stole $750 from Barb's bank account. Some of this money was spent immediately - Chris' bank account was 200 dollars in debt. Much of what remained was spent on lodging in a Regency Inn in Richmond, and the leftover money was swiftly spent on what can be assumed to be assorted frivolities and food. ''Two days'' after this money was withdrawn, Null - who at that point could still view the emails from Chris' bank - posted an image of a low balance notice on the Kiwi Farms, [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/july-31st-2021-post-epo-motel-chris-spotting-thread.96711/page-19#post-9595585| confirming] that Chris had $1.03 remaining in his account.

In a letter he relayed to [[Null]] a couple of months later, he claims to have sent his $150 Patreon payout back to Barb, as compensation for stealing the money.<ref>[[Chris's Letter to Null]]</ref>

This is predictably a [[Lie]] since not only did Chris's Patreon get shut down very quickly after the leaks were made but even if it wasn't Chris would be forced to wait until the next Monday due to their pay-out waiting period of 1-3 business days (something that Chris himself acknowledges in the same letter)

==In the comic==

[[File:Cwccash.jpg|thumb|250px|[[CWCville]] currency.]]

{{quote| What the? What the fuck is a C quarter? What the fuck is a W quarter?[[Writing| Nobody explained any of this to me!]]|Brendaniel upon discovering Cwcvilles' weird currency <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECqdrsvDobY&list=PLpNAl5zLZSMUI3klvTpy2Xdqa7B9bim3h&index=36</ref>}}

In [[Sonichu (comic)|the comic]] it is clear Chris has no idea how money works. [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]], [[Rosechu]], [[Patti-Chan]], and most likely all of the other characters live off welfare, just like Chris in real life. He seems to have no concept of tax, or that it's the [[United States of America|American]] populace who pay for his [[Kimmi|bullshit]]. Sonichu and Rosechu are living in a two-story house with an attic offered by the city and they are [[Mailbag 21#Home economics|"paid" in average]] of US$3,500 a month just to hang around. And maybe for the occasional [[Sonichu 9|city defense]] or [[A Sonichu Day|errand]].<ref>[[Mailbag 21#Home economics]]</ref>

While legislating as mayor of [[CWCville]], he equated 10 years in prison to a US$1,500 fine.<ref>[[Chris Chan Q&A 27 October 2008]]</ref> He also equated fifty hours of {{w|community service}} to $500 (for any [[sex]]ual violations).<ref>[[Mailbag_31#Magi-Chan_knows_when_you_fuck]]</ref>

In [[Sonichu_9#Episode_19:_Date_Ed_.28Even_Though_the_Idea_Sounds_Dated.29|Episode 19]], it's shown that CWCVille actually issues its own currency, in the form of C-Quarters and W-Quarters. Ten C-Quarters make up a W-Quarter - don't bother asking how that makes sense in any way, considering [[honor roll|what the word "quarter" means]]. (Our best guess: C-Quarters = US$0.25, W-Quarters = US$2.50) Nor does it explain why fines are levied in U.S. dollars: perhaps to bolster the dictatorship's foreign currency reserves, ''à la'' {{w|North Korea}}.

This makes even less sense considering [[CWCVille]] is part of the [[United States]]. States, let alone cities, cannot print their own money, despite holding considerable power over their own affairs. The Constitution expressly forbids anyone else other than the federal government from issuing currency. However, it has been somewhat common for companies, communities and local governments to issue localized currency known as 'scrip', a depression era practice still seen from time to time. [[Chris]] being Chris, and likely reading [[Goosebumps]] instead of paying attention in class likely is wholly unaware of this information.

On the [[CWCipedia]] article on Sonichu, Chris wrote that [[Rosechu]] is usually the one who cooks for her family, but when Sonichu cooks for his wife and [[Sonichu and Rosechu's children|kids]] he "will go as HIGH in portions as a Banquet", even though he only cooks for five individuals.<ref name=>[[CWCipedia]] on [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#Married Life and Children Sonichu]</ref> This suggest that Sonichu is just as frivolous with money as his father.

===Soup hotels===

Chris shows us his complete misunderstanding of the stress his ideas would put on the American {{w|Social Security (United States)|Social Security}} system if he was left in charge of it in a text called "[[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas Story]]." This is where the idea of "Soup Hotels" came from.

{{quote|Even the homeless have a place to stay in the ten Soup Kitchens/Hotels.|Chris with a very bad idea.}}

Chris depicts "Soup Hotels" as buildings ten stories tall with between ten and twenty rooms per floor, equipped with single bathrooms, beds, lighting and cable television.<ref>[[Mailbag 20#This still implies that CWCville has a massive homeless problem]]</ref> Of course, the homeless stay there for free. So, instead of building homeless shelters with dormitories, common rooms, and shared TV sets, Chris thinks the homeless should be treated to all the comforts of a ''bona fide'' hotel. This means that, in [[CWCville]], there are around 1,500 homeless people left outside. This might be the result of the local industry, choked by heavy taxes needed to pay those social expenses, being unable to make a profit there and thus moving away.

In [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], [[Ultra Sonichu]] and a bevy of [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechus]] stop at a soup hotel. The building is labeled Soup Hotel 17, implying that [[CWCville]] has had to open at least seven new homeless shelters in the span of a month, or they're just bad at numbering the things. Or more tellingly, that the economy of CWCville is crashing to the ground, fast.

==In other works==
In [[Mumble 6]], Chris discussed making a TV show called ''The Chris Chandler Show''. One of his demands was the show should not have any commercial breaks, either showing a distinct lack of understanding as to how a TV station makes money, or perhaps he plans to sell the advertising fees to a single company so that they can play a long ad in the beginning of the air time and leave the rest of the show uninterrupted, ''à-la'' the season premieres of {{w|24 (TV Series)|''24''}}. We cannot know for sure, but he has probably seen at least one show that has done this, and gathered the idea from there.

In [[Mailbag 29#In which Chris loses his mind|Mailbag 29]] he stated that $10 an hour is a reasonable price to pay for sex with a prostitute. To show his further ignorance of simple economics, Chris proposed a chain of state-run brothels where this shockingly inexpensive fee would not only pay women for sex, pay the salary of a pimp, pay for STD testing for the prostitutes, but would also pay for free [[Dating education|Sex Ed classes]] for [[virgin]]s.

In real life, according to Chris, he tried to scam his way out of paying for sex with a Craigslist [[Chris and sex#Prostitution|prostitute]] who was charging $100 per hour by telling her about the trolls, his life story, and his many personal problems. He said the prostitute then hung up on him.

Chris also proves us that, in the possibility of being part of a family, he wouldn't be the main purveyor. In the [[PlayingHouse]] video, his [[sweetheart]] of [[Jackie|the moment]] is portrayed as a successful journalist with high ambitions while he's a [[14 Branchland Court|stay at home]] Dad. Even then, he portrays himself doing "hard work" like [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|changing diapers]] and watching over the kids. In this last role, he's so incompetent that he needs to recruit his [[Crystal|preschool daughter]] to watch over [[Reginald Chandler|his son]] while he's shopping. This is paralleled by his real life situation - with [[Bob]] gone, one would assume that he'd be the "man of the house" and assume some responsibility for once. Unfortunately, as evidenced by his [[This is how the Trial went|admission in court,]] Barb is still pulling his ass out of any such concept by paying his court fees. Keep in mind that, by extension, Chris is being minded by an ailing woman's retirement money which was used to bail him out of a mess that ''he'' started, while he wastes his own money on meaningless frivolities.

== Conclusion ==

Given Chris's carefree abandon when it comes to his spending habits, many are actually concerned as to what will happen to Chris when Barb passes on and he has to fend for himself. If past (and present) experiences are any indication, it's that if Chris continues on his path of not saving his money and spending it on frivolous crap that he doesn't need, he'll wind up broke and in severe debt. A [[Mumble_4|past conversation]] with [[Clyde Cash]] revealed that he doesn't even know the basic expenses that go into running a household, and we all know how Chris's plan of [[PlayingHouse|marrying a sweetheart to dump all of the financial responsibilities on her]] will [[Sweetheart#Will Chris ever have a Sweetheart?|turn out.]]

Long story short, if Chris doesn't start saving for his future now, then when Barb finally passes on, he won't have one to look forward to. And he'll have nobody to blame but himself. ''(Not that he won't try, of course.)''

==See also==
*[[Chris and business]]
*[[Chris and work]]
*[[COVID-19]]
*[[Financhu Crisis]]
*[[Lego]]
*[[Monthly tugboat]]

== References ==
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{{Chris and}}
{{Money}}

Affair with Mother

2022-04-28T14:16:06Z

Necromaster:

Iron Curtain

2022-04-15T23:08:20Z

Necromaster: I think I pissed off a lot of R+M fans with that edit. Also its just occurred to me that Chris began watching R+M a while before the concept of an artificial barrier between dimensions was even thought of by adult swim. Did Adult swim copy chris chan?

[[File:BreakingTheFourthWall.jpg|thumb|300px|Pinkie Pie jumping out of a broken TV screen. Among the many things on the wall, there is an empty clipboard, and a sticker of Red from ''Angry Birds''.]]

The Iron Curtain was a political boundary dividing the western and eastern countries of Europe during the cold war; to Chris however an '''Iron curtain''' is apparently the proper name for the barriers that separate [[dimensions]] from one another (including our own) sort of like the central finite curve in Rick and Morty (only slightly more retarded) due to the [[Idea Guys]] strange fixation the Soviet Union the naming of this delusional phenomenon is almost certainly their doing. Chris has also referred to such barriers as '''the fourth wall'''.

==Breaking the Fourth Wall==

According to Chris, cartoons can actually interact with people from other dimensions. This is what he refers to as "breaking the fourth wall". This is based on a trope of the same name, where characters of a media get to "interact" with the audience, sometimes commenting on their current scenarios or stating what the audience might be thinking during said scenario.

==Explanation==

According to Chris, only beings that are just as powerful as him are able to interact with the residents of dimensions outside our own (which he refers to as [[OC|OCs]]). He has determined that the primary cause of this is from a mysterious force he refers to as the fourth wall. He describes it as being an impenetrable barrier that only OCs are able to pass through for a short period of time and directly communicate with the viewer. He believes that a few of these OCs are also watching everything that the people on the Earth dimension are doing, chronicling it, and even channeling them. In Chris' case, he believes that the OC CWC [[Psychlight]], whom was meant to be a CPU Goddess representation of the [[CWCki]] (or the [[CWCipedia]]), is his meta-physical chronicler. Chris has also stated that ever since the [[Dimensional Merge]], the people that have survived are returning the favor of being stalked by cartoon characters by becoming one with the cartoons themselves.

==Practicing to Break the Wall==
[[File:DiscordWallMessage.png|thumb|500px|Chris explaining why he damaged the wall.<ref name=punch>[[WCT DMs#Upset at MLP G5]]</ref>]]
[[File:Direct Message to Hasbro - MLPG5 Is Cancelled.-ay-NMiYIdGI.mp400002-min.png|thumb|400px|The punched-in wall seen in [[Direct Message to Hasbro: MLPG5 Is Cancelled.]]]]
On 27 [[July 2021]], Chris posted [[Direct Message to Hasbro: MLPG5 Is Cancelled.|a video]], where he once again [[My Little Pony Protests|protested against Generation 5 of ''My Little Pony'']]. The same video showed what appeared to be a wall with multiple dents and holes behind him.

At first, it was assumed that Chris had punched into the wall out of anger prior to recording the video, however, when [[The WCT]] asked him what happened, Chris claimed that the wall was damaged because he was supposedly preparing for the day he would finally break the iron curtain between [[Dimension 1218]], and another unspecified cartoon dimension.<ref name=punch></ref> The dents and holes have apparently been there for some amount of time prior to the video, and he has seemingly been occasionally punching the wall in order to practice for such an event.

==See Also==
*[[Chris and reality]]
*[[OC]]

{{References}}
{{CWC-isms}}
{{Fantasies}}

Dimensional Merge

2022-04-15T22:47:17Z

Necromaster: Added some sockness (ew)

:''For the video where Chris talks about the merge, see [[Dimensional Merge Announcements]].''
{{quote|Damn Dimension [[1218]]’s “Reality” Limits and Shit!!!|Chris, after New Year's 2019, disappointed when our reality did not merge with Sonichu's<ref>[[January 2019 social media posts]]</ref>.}}

{{quote|[The] Dimension Merge [...] is completed; All that remains of Universe 1218 is the failing Earth, Period.|Chris, coping with being sent to [[Jail Saga|jail]] for an extended period of time.<ref>[[Jail Letter 3]]</ref>}}

[[File:Dimensional Merge on freespeechwall-min.jpg|thumb|500px|right|Chris warns downtown [[Charlottesville]] of the impending merge on its Free Speech Wall, 2018.]]

The '''Dimensional Merge''' (or the[[Sockness impersonates Magi-Chan| Dimensional merger]] if you're an [[Jacob Sockness| even bigger idiot]]) is an escapist fantasy and [[coping]] mechanism for [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]. Originally part of the lore the [[Idea Guys]] had [[brainwashed]] into Chris, the Dimensional Merge is Chris’s latest attempt at avoiding [[reality]], believing that it will rescue him from his self-inflicted life problems and enable him to continue [[Chris and reality#Psychological_problems|living like a child]].

The Merge is an event in which Chris believes that "[[Dimensions#1218|Dimension 1218]]" and "[[Dimensions#C-197|Dimension C-197]]" (respectively, the universe of real life, and the [[Dimensions|parallel universe]] where [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] and other fictional characters live) will combine, [[Chris and reality|bringing fictional characters into reality]]. Chris is convinced that he is the designated liaison of the event and will become a [[Chris and religion|deity]] as a result, giving the appearance of a doomsday cult leader. First announced in [[October 2018]], the Dimensional Merge's beginning on 18 November 2018,<ref name=mergebegins>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1064201575994982400</ref> aligning with the 40th anniversary of the {{w|Jonestown|Jonestown mass suicide}}, revealed it to be a [[troll]] fabrication.
The Merge was expected to take place by the end of [[December 2018]]. Naturally, when New Year's came and went, Chris began backpedaling but remained insistent that the Merge would occur. On 29 December 2020, Chris tried again at claiming that the merge was happening<ref>[[December 2020 social media posts#The Merge is apparently on]]</ref> as a coping mechanism for the cancellation of the 2021 [[BABSCon]].

Trolls had put the idea of the Dimensional Merge into Chris's head, and have encouraged it ever since. A [[Teen Troon Squad]] member claimed the idea to have originated with the [[Idea Guys]], but added, "we discouraged the idea at first",<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/posts/4149788/</ref> implying that they later began encouraging Chris to believe. In the months since then, several [[weens]] and [[enablers]] have also pretended to believe in the Merge, enabling Chris and trying to win him over. As the default latching-on point for trolls and the dominant meta-[[saga]] in Chris's life at present, the Dimensional Merge has replaced the classic [[Love Quest]] after its [[polyamorous marriage|surreal conclusion]] in early [[2018]].

Chris proclaimed that the Merge was on when as the police [[Jail Saga|arrested him]] in August 2021 – the ensuing time period was dubbed the [[Post-Merge Era]].

== Background ==

[[File:Filthy carpet in Work Room - July 2019.jpg|thumb|x250px|right|Reality, according to Chris.]]

Chris has, for a long time, believed in the existence of one or more alternative universes, where every fictional character lives. He first alluded to this belief during a January 2010 [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2|phone call]] with [[Asperchu|Alec Benson Leary]] in which he told Leary that [[Asperchu/Background|Asperchu]] would surely have negative feelings about his [[Asperger syndrome|own name]] and repeatedly called Leary “[[naïve]]” for explaining that Asperchu is ''not'' a living, sentient creature who lives in another universe and can independently generate his own thoughts. This is most likely one of the things Chris has [[Things Chris has ripped off|learned]] from [[Chris and television|television]]. More specifically, he offered the 1988 animated comedy film ''{{w|Who Framed Roger Rabbit}}'' to Leary as evidence for a “toon world” inhabited by every “published or unpublished” cartoon character.

From then up to the Dimensional Merge saga, Chris has increasingly believed that the fictitious city of [[CWCville]] and [[List of Sonichu characters|his characters]] were real, embracing their alleged existence as a way to “escape” from anything he [[Kick the Autistic|does not like]]. Chris has been spotted conversing, interacting and even [[BronyCon#Dancing with Magi-Chan|dancing]] with his imaginary friends on many occasions.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/6-19-eyewitness-account-of-the-debt-hearing.57555/#post-4870932 Re: Eyewitness account of the debt hearing], 19 June 2019 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20190622230219/https://kiwifarms.net/threads/6-19-eyewitness-account-of-the-debt-hearing.57555/#post-4870932 Archived version]).</ref><ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/aug-2017-video-of-chris-dancing-with-magi-chan-at-bronycon-gala.57840/ Aug 2017 - Video of Chris dancing with "Magi-Chan" at BronyCon gala], 27 June 2019 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20190715211102/https://kiwifarms.net/threads/aug-2017-video-of-chris-dancing-with-magi-chan-at-bronycon-gala.57840/ Archived version]).</ref>

Throughout [[2017]], Chris appeared convinced by the [[Idea Guys]] that the Sonichu and [[Hyperdimension Neptunia]] universes actually existed, but in a separate dimension. In [[July 2018]], Chris [[July 2018 social media posts#Earth 1218|tweeted]] at Marvel writer Seanan McGuire, asking him to confirm the "dimension number" of "this Earth". McGuire responded with "Earth 1218", and later clarified that this was the Marvel universe's designation for the real universe. Chris took it as gospel, and subsequently uses "1218" to refer to the actual, existing universe. Weeks later, McGuire reiterated [[August 2018 social media posts#Redesign|once again]] that everything was imaginary, but Chris' response to McGuire and various trolls indicates that he still believes that people such as McGuire can communicate with other dimensions.

Over the summer and fall of 2018, Chris met with the [[Teen Troon Squad]], people who gave him [[Chris and drugs#Cannabis|weed]], pretended to be possessed by Sonichu characters and that the universes would merge.

===Relation to [[Financhu Crisis]]===
Chris believes that he is wealthy in [[CWCville]], and that when the dimensions merge, he will have access to his [[money]] there and he will be able to pay off his current, real-world debts. He has asked to borrow money from people, claiming he will pay back ten times the amount once the merge concludes, not realizing he sounds like a more autistic version of the {{w|Advance-fee scam|Nigerian Prince Scam}}.

On 8 October, Chris tweeted:

{{quotebox|Sometimes I just want to Give Up - but my Loves won't Let Me. If people could help us here, in This World, Monetarily, we would be Okay. I promise all of you, that when That Day Comes, I will reimburse you, Personally, in the Nation of Cwcville.}}

He followed up on 23 October with:

{{quotebox|When the worlds merge I will have access to TONS of savings in Cwcville. It is a lot of money; indeed. 10:1 is my repayment rate!}}

On 24 [[September 2018]], Chris was [[Chris and the law|sued]] by Second Round Sub for unpaid debt, and on 23 [[October 2018]], Midland Funding followed suit. The case for the former was postponed to January, but the verdict on the Midland case was read on 19 [[December 2018]], requiring Chris to pay $2,777.90 at 6% interest and $55 in court costs.

Remarkably, he has done little begging in the wake of the lawsuits. This has surprised many, considering the immense amount of times he has groveled online for money in the years 2016-2018. He has instead chosen to stick his head in the sand and pretend that the Merge will solve all his problems for him.

==Beliefs on the Merge==
{{quote|When I had to go to hospital and stay in hospital with heart complications, Chris sent me a message from his [[MagiChan111448|Magi-Chan Sonichu account]] claiming that my symptoms were associated with affects from the dimensional merge.|[[Aly Hirschberg]].<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/goto/post?id=7227880</ref>}}

[[File:Dimensional Merge math on McDonalds napkin.jpg|thumb|While eating at [[McDonald's]], Chris scribbled down the math for how many people will be killed in the Merge on a napkin.]]

Chris [https://kiwifarms.net/posts/3862765/ announced] the event on 14 [[October 2018]]. On 26 [[October 2018]], Chris posted a video entitled "[[Dimensional Merge Announcements]]" where he outlined the process of 1218 merging with its "sister dimension" C-197, where [[Things Chris has ripped off|every fictional character known to exist]] resides. He believes that once the merge occurs, Earth will be shared by humans and various characters.

On 14 [[November 2018]], Chris made a tweet explaining the survival rates for the inhabitants of the sister dimensions during the merge. Chris explains the population math as follows; 61.25% of the population of dimension C-197 is identical to that of Earth in dimension 1218, the remaining 38.75% of the population of C-197 are OCs which are unique to C-197, all of the OCs of C-197 are guaranteed to survive the merge, at least 51% of the human population of the Earths in both sister dimensions will survive the merge and at least 41% will not with an uncertainty of 8%, the best outcome of the merge would leave 59% of the population of 1218 alive and all of the 38.75% of the OCs of C-197 plus 11.25% of the human population of C-197 in the dimension 1218C197, the dimension 1C-211987 would be left with 109% of 1218's current population leaving approximately 8.365 billion humans and OCs in the new universe.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1062688325130219521</ref>

[[File:DimensionalMergeThanos.jpg|thumb|500px|right|Chris Thanos-ing the two dimensions with the Infinity Gauntlet.]]
Naturally, he [[Chris and his ego|believes that he will be guaranteed survival]] because he "absorbed the spiral seal" from his Sega Dreamcast and is therefore the middleman between the two dimensions. He believes that himself and [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] are basically deities, and that he will gain superpowers following the merge because of his belief that he is half-Sonichu.

He sent [https://archive.fo/AEDdd dozens of follow-up tweets] further detailing the process, explaining that [[Cwcville]] would replace northern [[Virginia]], Gotham City will replace a portion of New Jersey, and Equestria will take over the entirety of [[BronyCon|Maryland]]. He explained that this will resemble a natural disaster scenario and that mass evacuations may occur during the merge.

On 18 November 2018, Chris announced that the Merge had begun<ref name=mergebegins></ref>. This date coincides with the anniversary of the Jonestown mass suicide, implying that the Idea Guys had originated the Merge concept, as their calling card was inserting infamous historical dates into CWCville lore.

In early [[December 2018]], Chris reported feeling [https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/upload_2018-12-10_8-12-50-png.611515/ "psychic headaches"] and associated the merge with the [https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/cwc-png.611544/ California wildfires and the romaine lettuce recall.] As the merge drew closer, he claimed to have [https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/2-png.619236/ "lightning powers"] and that the "millions of volts" of electricity in his head is evidence that he is half-Sonichu. Without giving a time estimate for the merge, he tried to dispel doubts by [https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/upload_2018-12-22_11-41-7-png.620632/ claiming that he can "touch and feel"] [[Polyamorous marriage|Magi-Chan and Cryzel Rosechu]]. He estimated that the merge would conclude by the year's end.<ref>https://archive.fo/QKq44</ref>

===Magi-Chan doxxing incident===
{{main|Teen Troon Squad#Magi-Chan doxxing incident}}
On Christmas 2018, someone claiming to be Magi-Chan logged into Chris's Twitter, posting a Pastebin dump containing the dox of one of the Teen Troon Squad's members. They also stated that the Merge would actually take place in 20 years due to time dilation, and that Sonichu residents of C-197 would need to hibernate until then. Chris ultimately disregarded the news.

== The Merge in 2019 and Beyond ==
[[File:MergeProofArt.jpg|thumb|Chris proving the merge once and for all.]]
[[File:CWCville_Degeneration.jpg|thumb|An artist's depiction of CWCville after the merge.]]
Naturally, New Year's Eve of 2019 was an eagerly awaited moment as the final chance for the cataclysm to occur. In the early morning hours of 1 January 2019, Chris spoke out on Twitter in a New Year's address, explaining that the Merge had not happened on time due to "red tape", betraying some internal bureaucracy in the process of becoming the goddess of 80s computers.

He remained insistent that the event would still occur, adding in reassurances that the Sonichu-verse was still "Awake" to remind everyone of the Magi-chan doxxing's non-canon status.

{{quotebox|Good New Year, Everyone. I shall make my statement for now, and I Want No Backtalk Or Hateful Commentary.

The Dimension Merge of C-197 and our 1218 is still in progress. There is more damn red tape to work through, but our goal is still set; it is only delayed.

Everyone of C-197 is still very much Awake; we have secured [[Arfoire]] in a magic-proof cell a few days ago. Not even that Witch’s Courier on Facebook can say otherwise, because [[Honor Roll|I Know Better]], and her words shall never get to or sway me any other way.

I still remain the [[CPU]] Blue Heart of the Commodore Consoles, Cwcville and Comma, and Everyone is safe and well. But for now, I shall delay online talk of the Dimension Merge through my Social Media Accounts until further notice.

And I still remain very much married to Magi-Chan Sonichu, Cryzel Rosechu, Sylvana Rosechu, and Mewtwo; there is room for at least one from this Dimension, but there is no rush.

For now, Happy New Year, Everyone.

Dismiss. ⚡️💙⚡️}}

The context behind Chris's aside about [[Jessica Quinn#Versus Idea Guy|Arfoire]] was revealed in screencaps [[Lukas]] leaked on [[/cow/]]. In them, a person purporting to be the Arfoire-possessed Jessica Quinn PMs Chris over Facebook, saying she had tricked Chris into believing in the Merge:

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However, the attached post from Lukas<ref>https://8ch.net/cow/res/687691.html#q690962</ref> suggests that Lukas had been posing as Quinn in an attempt to pass the blame onto her:

{{quoteboxyellow|I’m not even the one who started the merge thing I just tricked my moms sugar daddy into buying Chris’s porn shit here’s screenshots Chris sent to me of texts from Jessica Quinn pretty sure she’s the one}}

Despite Chris stating that he would abstain from talking about the Merge online until further notice, he went on to mention it ''the following day'' while writing about the <s>[[Chris and health|health problems]]</s> "superpowers" that he got from it.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1080537645162422272</ref>

On 4 January 2019, Chris said that he was awaiting further information on the merge, more indication that the entire merge event had been scripted and fed to him by trolls who were no longer in the picture.

{{quote|Because of some deity-level red tape, it's delayed but it will happen soon enough. But don't make a big deal about it until I have more further information about it.|Chris, [[Jackson Dalton]] interview}}

Particularly troubling about Chris's comment is that he wants more information in order to verify that his delusional thoughts are real. By admitting this, he highlighted a path for new trolls to get into his head, showing he failed to learn from the [[Idea Guys]] saga. Several eager weens rushed in to fill the gaps in Chris's ''knowledge'', though by mid-[[June 2019]], Chris had apparently become overwhelmed with these, and has since turned to other, [[Chris and his ego|more credible]] sources.

===Continued hope in the merge===
[[File:LoadInstall.png|thumb|500px|A chant declaring that the merge will happen.]]
After the first deadline for the merge had passed, Chris remained optimistic that the merge would still happen at some point. While he was initially quiet about it, he began ramping up the rants about the merge again around spring. On 31 March, he tweeted:<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1112426978458718208</ref>

{{quotebox|The <nowiki>#DimensionMerge</nowiki> is still happening and going on. C-197 plus 1218 <nowiki>=</nowiki> 1C-211987. OCs are really becoming more obvious here; there are even sightings of a [[April_2018_Paid_Video_Requests#Message_to_Dio_Brando.2C_Plus_I_Need_a_New_Phone.21|Dio blonde vampire in Egypt]]. Descendants, Beware! Dio is coming after you all.}}

Several merge-related tweets followed in April, in which he claimed that people in Japan were seeing OCs<ref>[[:File:Mergeprogress.png]]</ref> and blaming the Notre Dame church fire on a Pokémon.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/4-15-chris-spotted-at-target-he-tweets-that-a-pokemon-caused-notre-dame-fire.55479/</ref> The events around this time give context for Chris's renewed interest in the merge:

*Earlier in March 2019, after Chris was gifted a [[Nintendo Switch]], he developed an obsession with playing the augmented reality game ''[[Pokémon GO|Pokémon Go]]''. The game's premise revolves around using smartphones to see Pokémon characters in real-world settings, which coincides with Chris's beliefs about the merge.

*On 2 April, Chris was sued for debt for the fourth time, further confirming the link between the merge and his financial problems.

*On 3 April, a new troll entered the stage with [[Future message from Crystal W Chandler]], who presented himself to Chris as a messenger of the merge.

Beginning in summer 2019, Chris would emphasize more often that the Merge is already nearly done and would soon be completely finished, like an obscure sect leader struggling to explain to his followers after the fact why the Second Coming had not come when he calculated it should. On 13 [[June 2019]], Chris claimed that he had been consulting with Jesus Christ, and that Jesus has been helping with the dimensional merge, which would be finished in the "near-coming days" – but without giving an actual set date. Chris also mentioned that Jesus has been preaching this at churches and in Pokémon gyms and yet needed Chris to help get the word out by posting to his [[Soft Exile|protected]] Twitter account.<ref>[[June 2019 social media posts#Chris says, according to Jesus, dimensional merge will be finished soon]]</ref> Naturally, after indulging his fantasies on the matter, Chris begged for money.<ref>[[2019 Sales Listings#June]]</ref>

As [[July 2019]] began, Chris tried to demonstrate his divine abilities through #[[PsychicPowers]], a pair of videos in which Chris drops items from his hand by the {{w|Ideomotor effect|ideomotor effect}}. On 8 July, he tried to assure his TRUE and HONEST believers on Twitter that the Merge's effects would be 'MILD and TEMPORARY', and continued his long trend of attributing random events in the news as harbingers of the Merge. On 10 July, Chris, via his [[Magi-chan]] sockpuppet on Twitter, complained about the many uninspired [[troll]]s who have tried to take advantage of the Merge to exploit Chris.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/7-10-magi-chan-telling-everybody-that-all-the-stuff-christine-said-and-did-is-true.58275/]</ref> This has not prevented others, such as the [[Multidimensional White Knights]] or [[Jacob Sockness]], from attempting to weasel their way into Chris's inner circle.

To advance his belief in the Merge, Chris has resorted to using sockpuppet accounts on Twitter, most prominently [[MagiChan111448]], to broadcast events. Whether he is using this as a transparent [[disguises|disguise]] to convince others, or he genuinely thinks that he is channeling his cartoon character's thoughts and statements into a microblogging platform, is unclear. On 14 [[August 2019]], '[[Magi-Chan]]' would announce that he has allegedly arrived into the real world, and would presently describe in a video the Merge's status.<ref>[[August 2019 social media posts#Magi-chan says he has entered our world|Magi-chan says he has entered our world]]</ref>

In a [[Discord]] message on November 2019, Chris was still pining for the Merge, stating, "As for getting me into C-197, that Has to happen ASAP." In March 2020, during the COVID-19 pandemic, Chris believed it to be a sign of the impending Merge.<ref>[[March 2020 social media posts#COVID-19 a sign of Dimensional Merge]]</ref>

On 29 [[December 2020]], Chris announced that the Merge "is on".<ref>https://twitter.com/cpu_cwcsonichu/status/1344006709606555648?s=21</ref> Later in the day, Chris stated that his “Merge is on” post was in reference to an “apex event” most likely referring to him attempting to break the Iron Curtain.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1344103627657523200</ref> The next day, Chris went into further detail alluding to the Merge happening on New Years day 2021.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1344445974689755136</ref> When New Years day came Chris clarified he meant the Merge would happen “any moment at the present time” meaning very soon after the New Year. <ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1345224423704555520</ref> On January 22, Chris announced that the merge would be completed, making it the 3rd time he had claimed the Merge would happen at a specific time.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1352706314699493383</ref>

Back in 30 [[October 2020]], Chris (pretending to be Sonichu), stated if he could not get Chris' body back to C-197 and Chris and Sonichu's souls swapped, Chris could not return to 1218. <ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1322323442255974400</ref> When Chris and Sonichu “swapped” on 25 [[February 2021]], Chris was expecting the Merge to happen on that day because of the swap which is why he said, “The dimension merge is happening; know which universe you are in when are suddenly transported peoples.” <ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1365027058355752962</ref> This would be the 4th time Chris had claimed the Merge would happen at a specific time. Due to the Merge not happening on February 25th and MLP G5 movie screenshots being leaked, Chris decided to leave Twitter to remain in his cognitive dissonance.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1365352632454414337</ref> Predictably, this commitment to leave the website lasted only a single day.<ref>https://twitter.com/GFuelEnergy/status/1365801650816958467</ref>

On 9 [[March 2021]], Chris claimed that 1218 and C-197 were one combined dimension in the past, but King Arthur and other kings used magic to separate the combined dimensions and send all known magic to C-197. <ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1369417934104391689</ref>

==Post-Merge Era==
{{Dated|[[Talk:Dimensional Merge#Over?|Chris's thoughts on the Merge in jail]]}}
During his arrest on 1 [[August 2021]], Chris declared that "the merge is on" once again, possibly believing that it will get him out jail.

In a series of letters addressed to a number of individuals penned during his incarceration, Chris has continued to maintain his belief in the Merge, even as he incorporated several aspects of Christianity and Biblical references into his ever-shifting mythos. Despite his apparent newfound faith in God and his self-identification as a living reincarnation of Jesus himself, he has consistently kept his title of CPU Blue Heart, making numerous allusions to his belief in the Merge across all of his letters. In his first widely-publicized message from jail, he claimed the Merge was 'completed and concluding'<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Jail_Letter_-_19_September_2021</ref>, echoing similar beliefs in his second missive. Most noticeably, in the third letter from jail addressed to a ween attempting to convert him to Islam, he states that the Merge is 'completed', with only the 'failing Earth' of his home dimension awaiting eventual incorporation into Chris' OC-infested utopia. While some expected his time behind bars to humble or educate him, Chris has evidently chosen to further ensconce himself within his imaginary world, likely doubling down on the Merge's use as a coping mechanism in the belief that it will rescue him from his imprisonment and probable conviction.

The Merge's future course is subject only to Chris's whims, and is not dependent upon Chris's [[Financhu Crisis|deteriorating finances]], his [[Barbara Chandler|aged mother's]] declining health, or [[Chris and reality|any other events in 1218]]. Originally supposed to be complete within a few months of its announcement, it is now ''nearly complete'' and yet continues to be pushed further into the future, as nothing in Chris's world objectively changes except the identities of his enabling rivals for incompetence. Whether Chris will abandon his belief in the Merge in the event of some external shock like Barb's [[Chris and death|death]] and its fallout, or retreat even further into it, is something only time can tell.

===Judgement Day, the Second Coming, and the Collective Shift===
As he was being arrested, Chris noted that, in his mind, the Merge was almost complete as he denied the reality setting in that he'd be thrown into the brig for a very long time. Some anticipated that with enough time away from the internet, and left purely to his own devices, Chris might come to realize the truth. However, instead of being a wake-up call, Chris's reignited interest in the Bible instead caused him to retreat even further into his fantasies, believing himself to be Jesus Christ reincarnated.

Over many correspondences from jail, Chris outlines a Judgement Day, where the following three events are supposed to occur:

* Continuation of the Dimensional Merge.
* The Collective Shift, where all of the "good and neutrals" in the world will be sent to C-197, and the haters (referred to in ramblings as the Toxic Minority) will be left behind on a doomed world as the rapture occurs.
* The Second Coming, where Chris will descend from the Temple of Sonichu and personally carry out the collective shift, as well as rescue buildings and artifacts he happens to like. <ref>[[Jail_Letter_-_25_October_2021_(Virginia_fan)#Chris's_Response]|Jail Letter - 25 October 2021 (Virginia fan)]</ref>

==See Also==
*[[Chris and reality]]
*[[Dimensions]]
*[[The Journey to the Merge]]
*[[Taser]]

==References==
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Imaginary family

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Necromaster: Similar appearance, Megan and Crystal

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Chris Chan has numerous family members that exist only in C-197, while Chris has put some real-life counterparts into his imaginary world, this article covers those who have been made up entirely by Chris. This page will not cover Sonichu or the Chaotic combo since they already have their own pages and while Sonichu does refer to Chris as "father" or "mama", this is more along the lines of Chris being his [[Messiah complex| benevolent creator]] rather than an actual family.

Like most, if not all of Chris's original characters; pretty much all of them exist purely to worship him or to give him extra powers in the comic.

==Cherokee Clan leader==
{{Main|Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan}}

==Crystal Weston Chandler (twin)==

{| class="infobox" style="width: 21em; font-size: 90%;"
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! colspan="2" | ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' character
|-
| colspan="2" | [[File:Crystal.jpg|200px]]
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! colspan="2" |Crystal Weston Chandler
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| '''Date of creation'''
| 22 June [[Sonichu chronology#2005|2005]]
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| '''Gender'''
| Female
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| '''Species'''
| Human
|-
| '''Transforms into'''
| Crystalina Rosechu
|-
|}

[[Image:153-GirlfriendsGift.jpg|thumb|left|Notice how the "girlfriend" in this pic looks like a crude version of Crystal, even down to the shirt. Freud would have a fucking field day with Chris.]]

'''Crystal Weston Chandler''' is the fictional twin sister of [[Christian Weston Chandler]]. Her role in his fantasy world stems from his long-held desire to have a sibling to play with<ref>Mentioned in his [[Song of Christian]] video: "hoping" for a "lil brother."</ref> along with some narcissistic pleasure and [[Tomgirl Pictures|gender identity issues]] with seeing himself as an [[Homos#Chris and transsexuality|attractive female]]. Crystal represents one of the more embarrassing facets of Chris's mind. Since his notions of the perfect girlfriend, the perfect sister, the perfect daughter, and the perfect female self so easily intersect, it is hard ''not'' to arrive at a conclusion involving [[Chris and sex#Incest|incest]].

He appears to have first created the character in 2004 as "Crystal the Female Twin" for his set of custom ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' cards, although another of those cards depicts Crystal as "Girlfriend's Gift". In fiction, Crystal wears a [[Rosechu]] [[medallion]] correlating to Chris's [[Sonichu]] medallion and [[Reldnahc]]'s [[Black Sonichu]] medallion; this is inconsistent (or is it?) with Chris's usual theme of Sonichu, Rosechu, and Blake representing the hero, lover, and villain. In real life, Chris created the Rosechu medallion for his future girlfriend, which raises the question of how he expected to adapt this into the comics when his sister was running around wearing the same bauble as his fiancée.

Crystal's origin is depicted in [[Sub-Episode 5]], where she is made manifest by Chris employing his [[anchuent powers]] and [[Heart Torch of Fail]] to split into two ([[pickle|nearly]]) identical beings. Chris and Crystal wear the same [[Chris and fashion|outfits]] and even have the same superpowers, although she lacks her brother's [[heterochromia]]. Throughout her appearances in the comics, characters are constantly noting how attractive she (and, by extension, Chris) is.

In [[2007]], Chris attempted to shock [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] into submission by posting his own [[Rule 34]] drawings, including one of himself [[Shecameforcwc.jpg|fingerbanging a nude brunette woman]]. ED users immediately concluded this was Crystal (due to the two characters extremely similar appearance), a charge which infuriated Chris and therefore became the conventional wisdom. By the time Chris successfully convinced anyone that it was really [[Megan Schroeder]] in the drawing, the notion that Chris wants to bang his imaginary twin sister had already stuck--and, as this article demonstrates, would've arisen anyway. Nonetheless, Megan stopped being friends with him because of the whole business, so Chris lost on both counts.

The theme of incestuous narcissism is also prevalent in literature of the Romantic period, particularly that of Lord Byron, who apparently acted on Chris's fantasy. The theory is that the man in question is so much [[Chris and his ego|in love with himself]] that the only other person he could ever truly love is his double. Furthermore, with the Romantic emphasis on sympathy through [[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares|shared experience]], great nostalgia for [[Chris's room|childhood]], and desire to be "[[Love Quest|understood]]" (though complete disinterest in [[Vivian_Gee_E-mails|understanding]]) make a sibling an ideal sexual partner for the narcissist. Most of the Romantics saw the problem with this, and contented themselves with [[Sarah Hammer|childhood friends]], but then, Chris was never as smart as Wordsworth.

A possible early appearance is in the [[Mario Kart 64 Lego Raceway|''Mario Kart 64'' Lego Raceway]] ([[1998]]) where Christian's kart passes something labelled "'''CRYSTLE'''" (the video quality is too low to see anything) and Chris shouts "Hi!" at it/her.
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===In the comic===
[[File:Crys.PNG|thumb|left|Note the careful attention he paid to drawing his sister's boobs.]]
[[Image:Crystalina_Rosechu.jpg|thumb|Crystal's anthropomorphic form, Crystalina Rosechu. Also the only Sailor Soldier to wear sneakers.]]

Crystal was first introduced in [[Sonichu 3|''Sonichu'' #3]], [[Sub-Episode 4]], where she appeared to aid Chris during a battle with the [[W-M-Manajerk]] in the [[Mal-Wart]] Region. Beaten and nearly subdued, Chris had a vision of his Cherokian ancestor. He revealed to Chris that his [[Heart Torch of Fail|Heart Torch]] is able to summon his "dream sibling". Crystal has also helped Chris battle [[Bagget]] and the [[Transformers|Change-Bot]] Crackder in the [[Get-Tar Region]], as well as [[Mary Lee Walsh]] at the [[PVCC]].

Crystal was trapped in the [[Dark Mirror Hole]] by Mary Lee Walsh and [[Count Graduon]] in [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu'' #5]]. In an attempt to save Chris and [[Sailor Megtune]] from falling victim to the Mirror, she pushed them both out of the way, becoming captive in the Mirror herself. After her capture, a few token mentions have been made of her plight - at one point, it was said that gathering the seven [[Sonichu Balls]] would allow Crystal to escape the mirror - but for the most part she was largely forgotten, especially while Christian himself was stuck in the practically identical [[Time Void]].

Since Chris had been keen on ejecting everyone he created from his [[sweetheart search]] misadventures, the final fate of Crystal Weston Chandler seemed quite grim. Then, partway through [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], Chris suddenly turned into [[Collosal Chan]] and rescued her by simply [[Sonichu Special 4|walking in]], [[I AM STRONG|scooping her up]] in his arms and walking out of the mirror in the most [[Chris and writing|anti-climactic way]]. Chris originally planned that he would hand over mayoral power to his sister at the end of this issue, but for [[Chris and his Ego|some reason]] decided not to.<ref>[[Miyamoto Saga#From Chris to Miyamoto]]</ref>

Being Chris's twin, Crystal's powers are very similar to his. She can transform into a Rosechu called Crystalina Rosechu. When she and [[Chris-chan Sonichu]] join together, they are able to form Chris-Chan Pure and execute a powerful ultimate attack known as [[Chrs-Chan Pure Pulse-Jolt Lance]].

Her "personality" is identical to every single non-evil female character in the franchise: she does nothing except stereotypically girly activities (shopping,<s>getting high from </s> sampling perfumes, chatting about boys, etc) and [[Women's Rights|she defers to men in all things]]. Her fashion sense is similar to her twin brother; she wears the same clown shirts and has a Rosechu medallion. Crystal has an odd quirk where she constantly refers to Chris by his original name, "Christopher," instead of "Christian", the reasoning for which probably exists in Chris' head but has never been elucidated.

In a Twitter post, Chris, while [[Spirit possession|LARPing]] as Sonichu, presented Crystal's origin story. According to Chris, Crystal originated from another dimension where she took over [[CWCville|the helm]] after her dimension's Chris presumably dies. During a battle with her dimension's [[Mary Lee Walsh]], Crystal was sent through a portal into [[Dimensions#C-197|C-197]] after Chris used the [[Heart Torch of Fail]] to summon her. Chris stated that Crystal decided to remain in C-197 after realizing that Chris was the TRUE and HONEST Chris.<ref>[[October 2020 social media posts#What happened to Crystal and more Helena]]</ref>

As another display of Chris's failures in his Love Quest, she also appears to be one of the very few female characters in ''Sonichu'' who was never paired off with anyone.
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===Gallery===
<center><gallery>
Image:152-YuCrystal.jpg
Image:CrystalSquirtle.png|Crystal joins the [[Moon-Pals]].
File:Collosalcrystalina.png|Crystal+Sonichu balls or something.
File:Crystal 001.jpg|Chris's most prominent thoughts on this matter.
Image:CrystalHawt.jpg|Artist's depiction.
</gallery></center>

==Sonichus and Rosechus==
{{see also|Robee Sonichu|Cera Rosechu}}

===Sonichu===

{{see also|Sonichu (character)}}

{{Quote|I will! Thank you, Father!| [[Sonichu 0]] cover art}}

[[File:Sonichu - Issue 0, Cover.jpg |thumb]]

Being Sonichu’s creator, Chris is established as a fatherly figure towards Sonichu and even has his creation call him “father” in the comics, despite there being no relation between the two nor an origin story for how they met.
In real life, whenever Chris is “possessed” by Sonichu, he refers to himself as “mama” and when redrawing his cover art for sonichu #0, he has sonichu call him mother to match with his current female pronouns.

Unfortunately this relationship would become much more disturbing later down the line.

===Russel and Cynthia===

{{quote|Back in human form, she extracted some of her essence. Then in (female) Sonichu form, she shot her essence up herself ... After that, when she tried to transform back to human, she could not. She was stuck in her Chris Chan Sonichu form. Then between Magi-Chan and the examinations at the hospital, she was knocked up for sure.|Chris, on the [[May_2015_Facebook_posts#Meet_Russel_and_Cynthia|beautiful act of conception.]]}} [[Image:Cynthia_and_Russel.jpg|thumb|The twins, ravenous for affection.]]

'''Russel Sonee''' and '''Cynthia Rosey''' are Chris's fictional Sonee and Rosey children. After Chris's [[Chris-chan Sonichu|Sonichu form]] became female to correspond with his [[Tomgirl Saga|newfound female identity]], he got the notion to use his own semen to impregnate himself, thus conceiving Russel and Cynthia. Miraculously, neither of the twins emerged as hideous mutants, and Chris proudly insists that they're completely [[autism]]-free.

This little experiment behind him, Chris shoved them off on [[Heather Iglesias]], claiming to visit them every now and again. They are first seen in [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]], attending the [[CWCville]] pride festival with their lesbian nanny. On catching sight of Chris, they immediately run up and cling to him, telling him they miss him. Chris gives them a dismissive "awww!" before coldly allowing Heather to take them away.

Chris described the conception again in 2020: ''"She did the thing from between her ol’ [[Duck|cock]] and moving the spunk into her [[Un-clit|vag]], and had to stay stuck in Sonichu form until Russel and Cynthia were born for a few weeks. After that, she went back to her human form, and she had to go through the similar quick process that Roberta went through, but the Estrogen was coming in quicker with C-Chan, since her alt-form was now female."''<ref>[[April 2020 social media posts]]</ref>

==Reginald Chandler==
{{Quote|Alternatively, if I have a boy as well, I would name him Reginald; that was not a [[dream]]-thing though. I've had a [[PandaHalo|past internet gal-pal]], who would have likely become my girlfriend after she got here from her native land of Australia after finishing College there with a Teacher Degree. We role-played a family day with the children, and she chose the name of Reginald for the boy-child.|Chris<ref>[[Regina e-mails]]</ref>}}
[[File:FatherandSon.png|thumb|right|Chris and Baby Reginald Chandler (Reginald is the stupid little blue stud) from [[PlayingHouse]]]]

'''Reginald Chandler''' is [[Chris]]'s imaginary son and brother to his fictitious daughter [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]]. He pees on the ceiling.<ref>[[IRC (21 January 2009)]]</ref> He is briefly mentioned in chats with [[PandaHalo|Panda]].

His origins seemingly begin with [[PandaHalo]] and her discussions with Chris about the married life they will have in the future (as for Chris, [[Chris and reality|a single date will inevitably lead to a long and happy marriage]]).

Although Reginald has been mentioned several times in conversation, he is nothing in comparison to his younger sister in Chris's eyes. Reginald has no persona in the comics (except possibly as [[Reginald Sneasel]]) and has never appeared to Chris in a dream. Since the untimely death of PandaHalo, Reginald has not been mentioned outside of direct questioning and a recent video, although it is likely that Chris would still name his hypothetical first-born son Reginald all the same.

Reginald was featured in the [[PlayingHouse]] video, where Chris pretends [[Jackie]] is the mother of his children. This time he was depicted as the younger brother to Crystal. While Crystal can write in a diary despite being in preschool, Reginald was mitigated to speaking only in baby babble. The only interaction Chris has with him is complaining about cleaning up the mess he made in the bathroom, [[Butt garments|changing his diaper]], mentioning that he threw up several times during dinner (never stopping to wipe him off), and demanding he stay quiet for the night so he can [[Hanky panky|fuck]] his wife in peace. It's interesting to note that Chris mentions that Reginald sits in a booster seat, not a high chair. While it's likely Chris doesn't know the difference, it also implies Reginald is big enough to be a toddler. Being a toddler who can only speak in gibberish suggests he inherited [[Autism|a]] [[Speech impediment|lot]] from his father.

In [[April 2019]], [[Future message from Crystal W Chandler]] was uploaded to [[YouTube]], purporting to depict a visit from a time-traveling Reginald.

==Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)==

{{Wise|by drawing himself buttfucking [[Sonichu]], then Sonichu will become pregnant with Crystal at some point.}}

{{quote|As for where I see myself, I am uncertain career-wise, but [[Dreams|I HAVE A DREAM]]! And that dream is to find the woman to make my Sweetheart from honest, true friendship, make her my wife, and from us, have a daughter named Crystal Weston Chandler. I've had a number of dreams where I take care of and tend to the needs of my baby, Crystal. And from all those dreams, I knew they were God's wishes for my future.|Chris, presuming to know the wishes of GodBear<ref>[[Regina e-mails]]</ref>}}

[[Image:09-Crystal_Card.jpg|thumb|Crystal as a [[My Little Pony]] character]]

Around the age of [[2003|21]], [[Chris]] had multiple [[dreams]] in which [[GodJesus|God and Jesus]] told him to find a [[sweetheart]] to build [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up|from the ground-up]] to have his '''daughter Crystal''', named "after the [[Honor roll|illustrious metal]]",<ref>[[Chris Chan's Public Announcement]]</ref> according to him. In a custom ''[[My Little Pony]]'' trading card, Chris depicts Crystal as a pony who traveled back in time to help her father – Chris – find a [[boyfriend-free girl]]. This is [[Things Chris has ripped off|completely ripped off]] from Chibiusa's entire premise in ''[[Sailor Moon]]''.

===Crystal and the Love Quest===
[[Image:CrystalWestonChandler.jpg|thumb|left|Artist's impression. This is probably also Chris's impression. It is also the impression that no one ever wants to see become a reality.]]

Finding a woman who would birth Crystal has been a fairly consistent justification for Chris's [[Love Quest]]. At times he has seemed to be more [[Honest Content|honest]] in wanting a girlfriend so he can [[Chris and sex|get laid]] or prove he's straight. For example, when Julie expressed a desire to have a child, possibly with Chris, he was ambivalent, and seemed more interested in a threesome between Panda, Julie and himself.<ref>[[BlueSpike Skype Logs 3#2009-02-04]]</ref> Yet with new heartthrob Ivy, his fantasy of making a family was strong, and Chris was upset when Ivy said she didn't like the name Crystal, and demanded a say in their daughter's name.<ref>[[Ivy Q&A]]</ref>

Likewise, in a dialogue with potential sweetheart [[Father Call|Kacey's dad]], Chris revealed that he had a "[[Chris and religion|prophetic]]" dream about Crystal when he was between the ages of seven and nine. He reiterated this later in the conversation, saying he was "definitely in elementary school", when he dreamed about giving birth to a daughter (in the dream he had [[Chris and work|an office job]], which also [[Chris's resume|won't happen]]). "Give birth" slipped out, as in Chris would like to [[Pregnant Act|gestate a human female infant within his body]] (or perhaps [[Monty Python|in a box]]) and somehow deliver her into the world. While it's most likely that Chris just fucked up while talking due to [[stress]] and [[autism]], this could also be a Freudian slip suggesting that Chris has some [[Homos|gender]] [[Pregnant Act|identity]] [[tomgirl|issues]], which typically begin in childhood. It's also somewhat possible that he doesn't know that the mother is the only one who gives birth, seeing how he [[Chris and English|uses it in other contexts]].

After Kacey, [[Jackie]] was next in line as the vessel for which Chris' gift from God was to be bestowed. Crystal was featured in Lego form in the [[PlayingHouse]] video. Despite only being in preschool, she's advanced enough to keep a diary and look after her baby brother [[Reginald Chandler|Reginald]].

=== The influence of the Idea Guys ===
[[File:CWCSonichu Rule34.jpeg|thumb|300px|Chris draws himself buttfucking his "son", [[Sonichu]], to guarantee Crystal's birth... [[Biology|Somehow.]]]]

In [[December 2017]], Chris was [[brainwashed]] by the [[Idea Guys]] over how Crystal would be born. Role-playing as [[Magi-Chan]] to Chris, an Idea Guy explained that the male [[Sonichu]] would become pregnant with Crystal after being impregnated by Chris through buttsex, and that by drawing it happening, Chris wouldn't have to do nasty anal himself.<ref>[[Idea Guy Q&A#Trolling Jessica Quinn, drawing of Chris fucking Sonichu]]</ref> Chris actually believed this, and produced the drawing to appease them, even though [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|his comic book counterpart]] allegedly does not have a [[Duck|penis]] [[Transgender|post-transition]]. Suffice it to say, nothing ever came of this.

[[Chris lost Crystal]], an undated, leaked video from the Idea Guys saga (although it's mostly due to the influence of the [[Teen Troon Squad]]), shows Chris yelling at a toilet, demanding to know what happened to his "baby". No context has been provided for the video, aside from some associated text provided by the Squad confirming that Crystal was the baby that Chris was screaming about, and not Reginald. However, it's possible that the drawn incident with Chris rawdogging Sonichu may have resulted in Crystal existing ([[Chris and reality|at least in his mind]]) before [[Dark Mirror Hole|disappearing from this world]].

Crystal apparently wrote a [[Future message from Crystal W Chandler|future message]] delivered by her brother Reginald ([[Enablers|actually a troll playing along with Chris's delusions]]). The message itself describes Chris's goals of becoming a parent and warns people to make adjustments to their lives ahead of the coming [[Dimensional Merge]].

Like with much of the Idea Guys' lore, Chris maintained belief in the Crystal birth prophecy long after their ousting. In November 2019, he mentioned it on Twitter:

{{quotebox|It has been written that the father to me becoming the mother of the future Crystal Weston Chandler Sonichu, is none other than Sonichu (Prime), Himself; my Son. I am not dumb, stupid or blind to what is false from others; my abilities and mentality have improved greatly over the past months and years.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1194506176505012225</ref>}}

===Name===
Her name is identical to that of [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|Chris's sister]] from the comics, leading to some confusion.

It is unclear which spelling he was projecting for his future daughter (although he used "Crystal" in a [[Facebook]] message<ref>[[Facebook messages#Christy Backe]]</ref> and the infamous "Story of My Current Days"<ref>[[Story of My Current Days]]</ref>). In the comics he spells his [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|stupid fake sister]]'s name "Crystal" consistently, although somebody called "Crystle" appears in the [[Mario Kart 64 Lego Raceway|''Mario Kart 64'' Lego Raceway]].

In a [[February 2019 social media posts|2019 survey]] he referred to Crystal as '''Crystal Weston Chandler Rosechu'''.

== Could Chris actually have a child? ==

'''<big>Nope!</big>''' Not anymore.

Prior to becoming [[transgender]], Chris's chances of conceiving his God-given daughter were extremely slim, but not impossible – it was at least possible for him to impregnate a woman, however unlikely that would have been owing to obesity's effect on fertility and rather more pressingly actually finding a willing female. However, [[May 2015 Facebook posts|with HRT in session]] Chris is destroying what fertility he once possessed, rendering the odds of actually conceiving a child at 0%.

In November 2014, after being rejected by a sperm bank, he even went as far as asking a friend to be the vessel which will allow Crystal to enter our world<ref>[[Open_Relationship_E-mails#Need_my_daughter]]</ref>, but as addressed, he is no longer producing potent sperm. [[All Star|A later video]] showcased that he has difficulty getting an erection in spite of [[mass debating]] for three straight minutes, which just adds to his list of problems. In Chris's defense, however, he had just [[piss]]ed all over the floor, and such an event usually makes it a bit harder to get it up.

In September 2020, Chris explained that he still has interest in getting a sexual reassignment operation in the hopes of being able to give birth.<ref>[[Discord Q&A 7]]</ref> Unfortunately for Chris, those who undergo a Male-To-Female sexual reassignment surgery are incapable of carrying children. Although some scientists are looking into the possibility of transplanting uteruses into transgender women, Chris would likely be too old or too unhealthy to bear children in the event of such a breakthrough – and that's all presuming that he could save up enough to pay for that in the first place, which seems like wishful thinking, [[Chris and money|considering that money seems to be the only thing that Chris can't hoard]].

In short, Chris will die childless: as long as he avoids [[Financhu Crisis#Future|sinking his finances]] to the point of foreclosure, the [[toys]] that Chris claimed to hoard for his future children will go to the State of Virginia if there is [[Chris's Last Will and Testament|no will]], and none of his [[Minor Family Members|other family members]] step in.<ref>[https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title64.2/chapter2/section64.2-200/ Code of Virginia § 64.2-200]</ref>

== Should Chris actually have a child? ==

If you are genuinely asking this question then you really don't know anything about Chris.

Parenting is an enormous task that takes huge amounts of effort and competence to pull off correctly; as with Chris himself even if you have two of the most loving parents imaginable an unhealthy mix of stupidity, coddling and manipulation can easily turn any child into a monster.

First and foremost Chris is extremely [[Chris and negligence|negligent]]; which is a trait picked up from his [[Borb|own parents]]. Name a thing in his life that he was tasked with taking care of and you will quickly find that he has left them to rot and rust away; even with things that he cares about he doesn't take particularly good care of and regularly leaves to break because he can't be bothered to actually take care of anything. Children need attention and care, especially during their younger years when they simply cannot take care of themselves; for example, can Chris successfully potty train a child when he cannot do the same with his dogs or even himself? Obviously not.

This is exacerbated by the fact that paradoxically, despite Chris's obsessive desire to be a parent, he has no actual interest in parenting. In the comics where he is both mother and father to Russel and Cynthia; he has [[Heather Iglesias]] take care of them in lieu of showing them any attention himself (with the two children showing obvious signs of parental abandonment), in [[PlayingHouse]] Chris also makes it rather obvious that he actually '''intends''' to neglect his children with Reginald being allowed to wallow in his own filth and vomit (while having not being taught to speak) while Crystal is expected to take care of herself despite being 4 years old.

Children also cost money and lots of it. Unfortunately for Chris, Virginia is among the top ten most expensive states to raise a child in (around 8th place at an annual $23,029) <ref>https://www.washingtonian.com/2021/09/16/maryland-and-virginia-are-among-the-top-10-most-expensive-states-to-raise-kids/#:~:text=Maryland%20and%20Virginia%20are%20among%20the%20top%20ten%20most%20expensive,%2423%2C029%20annual%20cost%20per%20child.</ref> which means that even if Chris was responsible with his money, didn't have an ungodly amount of debt to pay off and didn't have a mother taking a giant chunk out of his monthly payment; his begging videos and his [[monthly tugboat]] simply wouldn't be able to cover it (and that's assuming he has no other expenses).

And finally while in the past it would be considered speculation or something an [[A-log]] would say [[August 2016 Facebook posts|(even regarding some worrying comments on Facebook)]], nowadays it's obvious that Chris is okay with questionably consensual [[incest]], especially parental incest between a [[Affair with Mother|mother and her child]]. Regarding his previous comments on Facebook regarding incest with one's own child, he was not only accepting over the act but actually encouraged it claiming said act was good experience for the child only adding the condition that the sexual relationship should not be "abusive or hurtful" completely disregarding that not only is sex with a child by definition abusive (and by extension hurtful) [[Pedofork|because children are]] [[Chris_and_sex#Rape|not able to consent to sex]].

In short, if by some miracle Chris was actually capable of conceiving children and somehow being allowed to keep them, they would grow up sick, hungry, penniless, neglected, abused, and/or [[Chris_and_death#Imaginary_friends|dead]].

==External links==
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu76_wphCp8 CWC Sketch- Crystal]

==References==
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==See also==
*[[Chandler Family Tree]]
*[[Chris lost Crystal]]
*[[Sonichu]], Christian's other imaginary son.
*[[Simonla Rosechu]], who hoped to someday have a son she would name "Reginald".
*[[Reggie Fils-Aimé|Reginald Fils-Aimé]]
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[[Category:Imaginary Family Members]]
[[Category:Concepts influenced by Idea Guy]]

Imaginary family

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Necromaster: The last time I attempted to make this section of the page it was extremely unprofessional and mainly speculative; this version is heavily cut down, objective and far more factual

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Chris Chan has numerous family members that exist only in C-197, while Chris has put some real-life counterparts into his imaginary world, this article covers those who have been made up entirely by Chris. This page will not cover Sonichu or the Chaotic combo since they already have their own pages and while Sonichu does refer to Chris as "father" or "mama", this is more along the lines of Chris being his [[Messiah complex| benevolent creator]] rather than an actual family.

Like most, if not all of Chris's original characters; pretty much all of them exist purely to worship him or to give him extra powers in the comic.

==Cherokee Clan leader==
{{Main|Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan}}

==Crystal Weston Chandler (twin)==

{| class="infobox" style="width: 21em; font-size: 90%;"
|-
! colspan="2" | ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' character
|-
| colspan="2" | [[File:Crystal.jpg|200px]]
|-
! colspan="2" |Crystal Weston Chandler
|-
| '''Date of creation'''
| 22 June [[Sonichu chronology#2005|2005]]
|-
| '''Gender'''
| Female
|-
| '''Species'''
| Human
|-
| '''Transforms into'''
| Crystalina Rosechu
|-
|}

[[Image:153-GirlfriendsGift.jpg|thumb|left|Notice how the "girlfriend" in this pic looks like a crude version of Crystal, even down to the shirt. Freud would have a fucking field day with Chris.]]

'''Crystal Weston Chandler''' is the fictional twin sister of [[Christian Weston Chandler]]. Her role in his fantasy world stems from his long-held desire to have a sibling to play with<ref>Mentioned in his [[Song of Christian]] video: "hoping" for a "lil brother."</ref> along with some narcissistic pleasure and [[Tomgirl Pictures|gender identity issues]] with seeing himself as an [[Homos#Chris and transsexuality|attractive female]]. Crystal represents one of the more embarrassing facets of Chris's mind. Since his notions of the perfect girlfriend, the perfect sister, the perfect daughter, and the perfect female self so easily intersect, it is hard ''not'' to arrive at a conclusion involving [[Chris and sex#Incest|incest]].

He appears to have first created the character in 2004 as "Crystal the Female Twin" for his set of custom ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' cards, although another of those cards depicts Crystal as "Girlfriend's Gift". In fiction, Crystal wears a [[Rosechu]] [[medallion]] correlating to Chris's [[Sonichu]] medallion and [[Reldnahc]]'s [[Black Sonichu]] medallion; this is inconsistent (or is it?) with Chris's usual theme of Sonichu, Rosechu, and Blake representing the hero, lover, and villain. In real life, Chris created the Rosechu medallion for his future girlfriend, which raises the question of how he expected to adapt this into the comics when his sister was running around wearing the same bauble as his fiancée.

Crystal's origin is depicted in [[Sub-Episode 5]], where she is made manifest by Chris employing his [[anchuent powers]] and [[Heart Torch of Fail]] to split into two ([[pickle|nearly]]) identical beings. Chris and Crystal wear the same [[Chris and fashion|outfits]] and even have the same superpowers, although she lacks her brother's [[heterochromia]]. Throughout her appearances in the comics, characters are constantly noting how attractive she (and, by extension, Chris) is.

In [[2007]], Chris attempted to shock [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] into submission by posting his own [[Rule 34]] drawings, including one of himself [[Shecameforcwc.jpg|fingerbanging a nude brunette woman]]. ED users immediately concluded this was Crystal, a charge which infuriated Chris and therefore became the conventional wisdom. By the time Chris successfully convinced anyone that it was really [[Megan Schroeder]] in the drawing, the notion that Chris wants to bang his imaginary twin sister had already stuck--and, as this article demonstrates, would've arisen anyway. Nonetheless, Megan stopped being friends with him because of the whole business, so Chris lost on both counts.

The theme of incestuous narcissism is also prevalent in literature of the Romantic period, particularly that of Lord Byron, who apparently acted on Chris's fantasy. The theory is that the man in question is so much [[Chris and his ego|in love with himself]] that the only other person he could ever truly love is his double. Furthermore, with the Romantic emphasis on sympathy through [[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares|shared experience]], great nostalgia for [[Chris's room|childhood]], and desire to be "[[Love Quest|understood]]" (though complete disinterest in [[Vivian_Gee_E-mails|understanding]]) make a sibling an ideal sexual partner for the narcissist. Most of the Romantics saw the problem with this, and contented themselves with [[Sarah Hammer|childhood friends]], but then, Chris was never as smart as Wordsworth.

A possible early appearance is in the [[Mario Kart 64 Lego Raceway|''Mario Kart 64'' Lego Raceway]] ([[1998]]) where Christian's kart passes something labelled "'''CRYSTLE'''" (the video quality is too low to see anything) and Chris shouts "Hi!" at it/her.
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===In the comic===
[[File:Crys.PNG|thumb|left|Note the careful attention he paid to drawing his sister's boobs.]]
[[Image:Crystalina_Rosechu.jpg|thumb|Crystal's anthropomorphic form, Crystalina Rosechu. Also the only Sailor Soldier to wear sneakers.]]

Crystal was first introduced in [[Sonichu 3|''Sonichu'' #3]], [[Sub-Episode 4]], where she appeared to aid Chris during a battle with the [[W-M-Manajerk]] in the [[Mal-Wart]] Region. Beaten and nearly subdued, Chris had a vision of his Cherokian ancestor. He revealed to Chris that his [[Heart Torch of Fail|Heart Torch]] is able to summon his "dream sibling". Crystal has also helped Chris battle [[Bagget]] and the [[Transformers|Change-Bot]] Crackder in the [[Get-Tar Region]], as well as [[Mary Lee Walsh]] at the [[PVCC]].

Crystal was trapped in the [[Dark Mirror Hole]] by Mary Lee Walsh and [[Count Graduon]] in [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu'' #5]]. In an attempt to save Chris and [[Sailor Megtune]] from falling victim to the Mirror, she pushed them both out of the way, becoming captive in the Mirror herself. After her capture, a few token mentions have been made of her plight - at one point, it was said that gathering the seven [[Sonichu Balls]] would allow Crystal to escape the mirror - but for the most part she was largely forgotten, especially while Christian himself was stuck in the practically identical [[Time Void]].

Since Chris had been keen on ejecting everyone he created from his [[sweetheart search]] misadventures, the final fate of Crystal Weston Chandler seemed quite grim. Then, partway through [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], Chris suddenly turned into [[Collosal Chan]] and rescued her by simply [[Sonichu Special 4|walking in]], [[I AM STRONG|scooping her up]] in his arms and walking out of the mirror in the most [[Chris and writing|anti-climactic way]]. Chris originally planned that he would hand over mayoral power to his sister at the end of this issue, but for [[Chris and his Ego|some reason]] decided not to.<ref>[[Miyamoto Saga#From Chris to Miyamoto]]</ref>

Being Chris's twin, Crystal's powers are very similar to his. She can transform into a Rosechu called Crystalina Rosechu. When she and [[Chris-chan Sonichu]] join together, they are able to form Chris-Chan Pure and execute a powerful ultimate attack known as [[Chrs-Chan Pure Pulse-Jolt Lance]].

Her "personality" is identical to every single non-evil female character in the franchise: she does nothing except stereotypically girly activities (shopping,<s>getting high from </s> sampling perfumes, chatting about boys, etc) and [[Women's Rights|she defers to men in all things]]. Her fashion sense is similar to her twin brother; she wears the same clown shirts and has a Rosechu medallion. Crystal has an odd quirk where she constantly refers to Chris by his original name, "Christopher," instead of "Christian", the reasoning for which probably exists in Chris' head but has never been elucidated.

In a Twitter post, Chris, while [[Spirit possession|LARPing]] as Sonichu, presented Crystal's origin story. According to Chris, Crystal originated from another dimension where she took over [[CWCville|the helm]] after her dimension's Chris presumably dies. During a battle with her dimension's [[Mary Lee Walsh]], Crystal was sent through a portal into [[Dimensions#C-197|C-197]] after Chris used the [[Heart Torch of Fail]] to summon her. Chris stated that Crystal decided to remain in C-197 after realizing that Chris was the TRUE and HONEST Chris.<ref>[[October 2020 social media posts#What happened to Crystal and more Helena]]</ref>

As another display of Chris's failures in his Love Quest, she also appears to be one of the very few female characters in ''Sonichu'' who was never paired off with anyone.
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===Gallery===
<center><gallery>
Image:152-YuCrystal.jpg
Image:CrystalSquirtle.png|Crystal joins the [[Moon-Pals]].
File:Collosalcrystalina.png|Crystal+Sonichu balls or something.
File:Crystal 001.jpg|Chris's most prominent thoughts on this matter.
Image:CrystalHawt.jpg|Artist's depiction.
</gallery></center>

==Sonichus and Rosechus==
{{see also|Robee Sonichu|Cera Rosechu}}

===Sonichu===

{{see also|Sonichu (character)}}

{{Quote|I will! Thank you, Father!| [[Sonichu 0]] cover art}}

[[File:Sonichu - Issue 0, Cover.jpg |thumb]]

Being Sonichu’s creator, Chris is established as a fatherly figure towards Sonichu and even has his creation call him “father” in the comics, despite there being no relation between the two nor an origin story for how they met.
In real life, whenever Chris is “possessed” by Sonichu, he refers to himself as “mama” and when redrawing his cover art for sonichu #0, he has sonichu call him mother to match with his current female pronouns.

Unfortunately this relationship would become much more disturbing later down the line.

===Russel and Cynthia===

{{quote|Back in human form, she extracted some of her essence. Then in (female) Sonichu form, she shot her essence up herself ... After that, when she tried to transform back to human, she could not. She was stuck in her Chris Chan Sonichu form. Then between Magi-Chan and the examinations at the hospital, she was knocked up for sure.|Chris, on the [[May_2015_Facebook_posts#Meet_Russel_and_Cynthia|beautiful act of conception.]]}} [[Image:Cynthia_and_Russel.jpg|thumb|The twins, ravenous for affection.]]

'''Russel Sonee''' and '''Cynthia Rosey''' are Chris's fictional Sonee and Rosey children. After Chris's [[Chris-chan Sonichu|Sonichu form]] became female to correspond with his [[Tomgirl Saga|newfound female identity]], he got the notion to use his own semen to impregnate himself, thus conceiving Russel and Cynthia. Miraculously, neither of the twins emerged as hideous mutants, and Chris proudly insists that they're completely [[autism]]-free.

This little experiment behind him, Chris shoved them off on [[Heather Iglesias]], claiming to visit them every now and again. They are first seen in [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]], attending the [[CWCville]] pride festival with their lesbian nanny. On catching sight of Chris, they immediately run up and cling to him, telling him they miss him. Chris gives them a dismissive "awww!" before coldly allowing Heather to take them away.

Chris described the conception again in 2020: ''"She did the thing from between her ol’ [[Duck|cock]] and moving the spunk into her [[Un-clit|vag]], and had to stay stuck in Sonichu form until Russel and Cynthia were born for a few weeks. After that, she went back to her human form, and she had to go through the similar quick process that Roberta went through, but the Estrogen was coming in quicker with C-Chan, since her alt-form was now female."''<ref>[[April 2020 social media posts]]</ref>

==Reginald Chandler==
{{Quote|Alternatively, if I have a boy as well, I would name him Reginald; that was not a [[dream]]-thing though. I've had a [[PandaHalo|past internet gal-pal]], who would have likely become my girlfriend after she got here from her native land of Australia after finishing College there with a Teacher Degree. We role-played a family day with the children, and she chose the name of Reginald for the boy-child.|Chris<ref>[[Regina e-mails]]</ref>}}
[[File:FatherandSon.png|thumb|right|Chris and Baby Reginald Chandler (Reginald is the stupid little blue stud) from [[PlayingHouse]]]]

'''Reginald Chandler''' is [[Chris]]'s imaginary son and brother to his fictitious daughter [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]]. He pees on the ceiling.<ref>[[IRC (21 January 2009)]]</ref> He is briefly mentioned in chats with [[PandaHalo|Panda]].

His origins seemingly begin with [[PandaHalo]] and her discussions with Chris about the married life they will have in the future (as for Chris, [[Chris and reality|a single date will inevitably lead to a long and happy marriage]]).

Although Reginald has been mentioned several times in conversation, he is nothing in comparison to his younger sister in Chris's eyes. Reginald has no persona in the comics (except possibly as [[Reginald Sneasel]]) and has never appeared to Chris in a dream. Since the untimely death of PandaHalo, Reginald has not been mentioned outside of direct questioning and a recent video, although it is likely that Chris would still name his hypothetical first-born son Reginald all the same.

Reginald was featured in the [[PlayingHouse]] video, where Chris pretends [[Jackie]] is the mother of his children. This time he was depicted as the younger brother to Crystal. While Crystal can write in a diary despite being in preschool, Reginald was mitigated to speaking only in baby babble. The only interaction Chris has with him is complaining about cleaning up the mess he made in the bathroom, [[Butt garments|changing his diaper]], mentioning that he threw up several times during dinner (never stopping to wipe him off), and demanding he stay quiet for the night so he can [[Hanky panky|fuck]] his wife in peace. It's interesting to note that Chris mentions that Reginald sits in a booster seat, not a high chair. While it's likely Chris doesn't know the difference, it also implies Reginald is big enough to be a toddler. Being a toddler who can only speak in gibberish suggests he inherited [[Autism|a]] [[Speech impediment|lot]] from his father.

In [[April 2019]], [[Future message from Crystal W Chandler]] was uploaded to [[YouTube]], purporting to depict a visit from a time-traveling Reginald.

==Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)==

{{Wise|by drawing himself buttfucking [[Sonichu]], then Sonichu will become pregnant with Crystal at some point.}}

{{quote|As for where I see myself, I am uncertain career-wise, but [[Dreams|I HAVE A DREAM]]! And that dream is to find the woman to make my Sweetheart from honest, true friendship, make her my wife, and from us, have a daughter named Crystal Weston Chandler. I've had a number of dreams where I take care of and tend to the needs of my baby, Crystal. And from all those dreams, I knew they were God's wishes for my future.|Chris, presuming to know the wishes of GodBear<ref>[[Regina e-mails]]</ref>}}

[[Image:09-Crystal_Card.jpg|thumb|Crystal as a [[My Little Pony]] character]]

Around the age of [[2003|21]], [[Chris]] had multiple [[dreams]] in which [[GodJesus|God and Jesus]] told him to find a [[sweetheart]] to build [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up|from the ground-up]] to have his '''daughter Crystal''', named "after the [[Honor roll|illustrious metal]]",<ref>[[Chris Chan's Public Announcement]]</ref> according to him. In a custom ''[[My Little Pony]]'' trading card, Chris depicts Crystal as a pony who traveled back in time to help her father – Chris – find a [[boyfriend-free girl]]. This is [[Things Chris has ripped off|completely ripped off]] from Chibiusa's entire premise in ''[[Sailor Moon]]''.

===Crystal and the Love Quest===
[[Image:CrystalWestonChandler.jpg|thumb|left|Artist's impression. This is probably also Chris's impression. It is also the impression that no one ever wants to see become a reality.]]

Finding a woman who would birth Crystal has been a fairly consistent justification for Chris's [[Love Quest]]. At times he has seemed to be more [[Honest Content|honest]] in wanting a girlfriend so he can [[Chris and sex|get laid]] or prove he's straight. For example, when Julie expressed a desire to have a child, possibly with Chris, he was ambivalent, and seemed more interested in a threesome between Panda, Julie and himself.<ref>[[BlueSpike Skype Logs 3#2009-02-04]]</ref> Yet with new heartthrob Ivy, his fantasy of making a family was strong, and Chris was upset when Ivy said she didn't like the name Crystal, and demanded a say in their daughter's name.<ref>[[Ivy Q&A]]</ref>

Likewise, in a dialogue with potential sweetheart [[Father Call|Kacey's dad]], Chris revealed that he had a "[[Chris and religion|prophetic]]" dream about Crystal when he was between the ages of seven and nine. He reiterated this later in the conversation, saying he was "definitely in elementary school", when he dreamed about giving birth to a daughter (in the dream he had [[Chris and work|an office job]], which also [[Chris's resume|won't happen]]). "Give birth" slipped out, as in Chris would like to [[Pregnant Act|gestate a human female infant within his body]] (or perhaps [[Monty Python|in a box]]) and somehow deliver her into the world. While it's most likely that Chris just fucked up while talking due to [[stress]] and [[autism]], this could also be a Freudian slip suggesting that Chris has some [[Homos|gender]] [[Pregnant Act|identity]] [[tomgirl|issues]], which typically begin in childhood. It's also somewhat possible that he doesn't know that the mother is the only one who gives birth, seeing how he [[Chris and English|uses it in other contexts]].

After Kacey, [[Jackie]] was next in line as the vessel for which Chris' gift from God was to be bestowed. Crystal was featured in Lego form in the [[PlayingHouse]] video. Despite only being in preschool, she's advanced enough to keep a diary and look after her baby brother [[Reginald Chandler|Reginald]].

=== The influence of the Idea Guys ===
[[File:CWCSonichu Rule34.jpeg|thumb|300px|Chris draws himself buttfucking his "son", [[Sonichu]], to guarantee Crystal's birth... [[Biology|Somehow.]]]]

In [[December 2017]], Chris was [[brainwashed]] by the [[Idea Guys]] over how Crystal would be born. Role-playing as [[Magi-Chan]] to Chris, an Idea Guy explained that the male [[Sonichu]] would become pregnant with Crystal after being impregnated by Chris through buttsex, and that by drawing it happening, Chris wouldn't have to do nasty anal himself.<ref>[[Idea Guy Q&A#Trolling Jessica Quinn, drawing of Chris fucking Sonichu]]</ref> Chris actually believed this, and produced the drawing to appease them, even though [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|his comic book counterpart]] allegedly does not have a [[Duck|penis]] [[Transgender|post-transition]]. Suffice it to say, nothing ever came of this.

[[Chris lost Crystal]], an undated, leaked video from the Idea Guys saga (although it's mostly due to the influence of the [[Teen Troon Squad]]), shows Chris yelling at a toilet, demanding to know what happened to his "baby". No context has been provided for the video, aside from some associated text provided by the Squad confirming that Crystal was the baby that Chris was screaming about, and not Reginald. However, it's possible that the drawn incident with Chris rawdogging Sonichu may have resulted in Crystal existing ([[Chris and reality|at least in his mind]]) before [[Dark Mirror Hole|disappearing from this world]].

Crystal apparently wrote a [[Future message from Crystal W Chandler|future message]] delivered by her brother Reginald ([[Enablers|actually a troll playing along with Chris's delusions]]). The message itself describes Chris's goals of becoming a parent and warns people to make adjustments to their lives ahead of the coming [[Dimensional Merge]].

Like with much of the Idea Guys' lore, Chris maintained belief in the Crystal birth prophecy long after their ousting. In November 2019, he mentioned it on Twitter:

{{quotebox|It has been written that the father to me becoming the mother of the future Crystal Weston Chandler Sonichu, is none other than Sonichu (Prime), Himself; my Son. I am not dumb, stupid or blind to what is false from others; my abilities and mentality have improved greatly over the past months and years.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1194506176505012225</ref>}}

===Name===
Her name is identical to that of [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|Chris's sister]] from the comics, leading to some confusion.

It is unclear which spelling he was projecting for his future daughter (although he used "Crystal" in a [[Facebook]] message<ref>[[Facebook messages#Christy Backe]]</ref> and the infamous "Story of My Current Days"<ref>[[Story of My Current Days]]</ref>). In the comics he spells his [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|stupid fake sister]]'s name "Crystal" consistently, although somebody called "Crystle" appears in the [[Mario Kart 64 Lego Raceway|''Mario Kart 64'' Lego Raceway]].

In a [[February 2019 social media posts|2019 survey]] he referred to Crystal as '''Crystal Weston Chandler Rosechu'''.

== Could Chris actually have a child? ==

'''<big>Nope!</big>''' Not anymore.

Prior to becoming [[transgender]], Chris's chances of conceiving his God-given daughter were extremely slim, but not impossible – it was at least possible for him to impregnate a woman, however unlikely that would have been owing to obesity's effect on fertility and rather more pressingly actually finding a willing female. However, [[May 2015 Facebook posts|with HRT in session]] Chris is destroying what fertility he once possessed, rendering the odds of actually conceiving a child at 0%.

In November 2014, after being rejected by a sperm bank, he even went as far as asking a friend to be the vessel which will allow Crystal to enter our world<ref>[[Open_Relationship_E-mails#Need_my_daughter]]</ref>, but as addressed, he is no longer producing potent sperm. [[All Star|A later video]] showcased that he has difficulty getting an erection in spite of [[mass debating]] for three straight minutes, which just adds to his list of problems. In Chris's defense, however, he had just [[piss]]ed all over the floor, and such an event usually makes it a bit harder to get it up.

In September 2020, Chris explained that he still has interest in getting a sexual reassignment operation in the hopes of being able to give birth.<ref>[[Discord Q&A 7]]</ref> Unfortunately for Chris, those who undergo a Male-To-Female sexual reassignment surgery are incapable of carrying children. Although some scientists are looking into the possibility of transplanting uteruses into transgender women, Chris would likely be too old or too unhealthy to bear children in the event of such a breakthrough – and that's all presuming that he could save up enough to pay for that in the first place, which seems like wishful thinking, [[Chris and money|considering that money seems to be the only thing that Chris can't hoard]].

In short, Chris will die childless: as long as he avoids [[Financhu Crisis#Future|sinking his finances]] to the point of foreclosure, the [[toys]] that Chris claimed to hoard for his future children will go to the State of Virginia if there is [[Chris's Last Will and Testament|no will]], and none of his [[Minor Family Members|other family members]] step in.<ref>[https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title64.2/chapter2/section64.2-200/ Code of Virginia § 64.2-200]</ref>

== Should Chris actually have a child? ==

If you are genuinely asking this question then you really don't know anything about Chris.

Parenting is an enormous task which takes huge amounts of effort and competence to pull off correctly; as with Chris himself even if you have two of the most loving parents imaginable an unhealthy mix of stupidity, coddling and manipulation can easily turn any child into a monster.

First and foremost Chris is extremely [[Chris and negligence|negligent]]; which is a trait picked up from his own parents. Name a thing in his life that he was tasked with taking care of and you will quickly find that he has left them to rot and rust away; even with things that he cares about he doesn't take particularly good care of and regularly leaves to break because he cant be bothered to actually take care of anything. Children need attention and care, especially during their younger years where they simply cannot take care of themselves; for example can Chris successfully potty train a child when he cannot do the same with his dogs or even himself? Obviously not.

This is exacerbated by the fact that paradoxically, despite Chris's obsessive desire to be a parent, he has no actual interest in parenting. In the comics where he is both mother and father to Russel and Cynthia; he has [[Heather Iglesias]] take care of them in leu of showing them any attention himself (with the two children showing obvious signs of parental abandonment), in [[PlayingHouse]] Chris also makes it rather obvious that he actually '''intends''' to neglect his children with Reginald being allowed to wallow in his own filth and vomit (while having not being taught to speak) while Crystal being expected to take care of herself despite being 4 years old.

Children also cost money and lots of it. Unfortunately for Chris Virginia is among the top ten most expensive states to raise a child in (around 8th place at an annual $23,029) <ref>https://www.washingtonian.com/2021/09/16/maryland-and-virginia-are-among-the-top-10-most-expensive-states-to-raise-kids/#:~:text=Maryland%20and%20Virginia%20are%20among%20the%20top%20ten%20most%20expensive,%2423%2C029%20annual%20cost%20per%20child.</ref> which means that even if Chris was responsible with his money, didn't have an ungodly amount of debt to pay off and didn't have a mother taking a giant chunk out of his monthly payment; his begging videos and his [[monthly tugboat]] simply wouldn't be able to cover it (and that's assuming he has no other expenses).

And finally while in the past it would be considered speculation or something an [[A-log]] would say [[August 2016 Facebook posts|(even regarding some worrying comments on Facebook)]], nowadays it's obvious that Chris is okay with questionably consensual [[incest]], especially parental incest between a [[Affair with Mother| mother and daughter]]. Regarding his previous comments on Facebook regarding incest with ones own child, he was not only accepting over the act but actually encouraged it claiming said act was good experience for the child only adding the condition that the sexual relationship should not be "abusive or hurtful" completely disregarding that not only is sex with a child by definition abusive (and by extension hurtful)[[Pedofork| because children are not able to consent to sex]].

In short if by some miracle Chris was actually capable of conceiving children and somehow being allowed to keep them, they would grow up sick, hungry, penniless, neglected and abused.

==External links==
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu76_wphCp8 CWC Sketch- Crystal]

==References==
<references/>

==See also==
*[[Chandler Family Tree]]
*[[Chris lost Crystal]]
*[[Sonichu]], Christian's other imaginary son.
*[[Simonla Rosechu]], who hoped to someday have a son she would name "Reginald".
*[[Reggie Fils-Aimé|Reginald Fils-Aimé]]
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Necromaster:

{{Incomplete|Information on Watchemn interaction|Information on shirt|Merlotchu}}

'''Dillin Thomas''' is a Youtuber who creates videos centered around the [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] series, sometimes making videos on particularly off-beat members of its fandom. His videos on Chris often involved him reading this very wiki and commenting on it. '''Taylor''' is a commissions artist.<ref name=taylor>https://twitter.com/MerlotArt/status/1459985392300527620 https://archive.ph/b4hTQ</ref><ref name=compliment>https://twitter.com/MerlotArt/status/1411396583501942785 https://archive.ph/GeaOF</ref> The two are a couple.<ref name=compliment></ref> Chris has had some interactions with both of them.

==Watchmen interaction==
Dillin has interacted with the [[Watchmen]] and assisted in the shutting down of the "Arbitarch CWC Alliance" discord server but was never an actual member. He would later make a video on the watchmen condemning their actions due to their enabling tactics <ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeK3EIJuTeg]</ref>

==Shirt==
Dillin once gifted Chris a shirt.{{cite}} During the [[Jail Saga]], Chris had on the shirt as he was being arrested for [[incest]].

==Merlotchu commission==
At some point prior to the [[Jail Saga]], Chris and Taylor were to collaborate on designing an [[OC]] named Merlotchu, a job Taylor had been commissioned to do. With Chris jailed and unable to contribute, Taylor designed the character herself.<ref>https://twitter.com/MerlotArt/status/1426394909859205125 https://archive.ph/o9UHM</ref>

==Incest Call confirmation==
On 30 July 2021, in the wake of the [[Incest Call]] being leaked, Dillin direct messaged Chris to ask of its legitimacy; while Chris at first attempted to drown him out in a paragraph of pseudo-religious nonsense, Chris being Chris [[Honest Content|eventually confessed to everything despite having no real reason to do so]].<ref name="admission">https://twitter.com/DHTDillinThomas/status/1421244971894534147 [https://web.archive.org/web/20210730230533/https://twitter.com/DHTDillinThomas/status/1421244971894534147 (Archive)]</ref> Afterwards Dillin leaked the conversation and earned the title of "minor traitor" by Chris.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 30 November 2021 (Eels and the Egg-man)]]</ref>

===Transcript===
Dillin linked to a YouTube upload of the [[Incest Call]].

{{quoteboxred|Chris you know I hardly ever hit you up, but I feel that this needs explaining.

Can you tell me what this is?}}

{{quotebox|Keep faith, and distance yourself from the drama and chaos going on today. Know that remaining bad vibrations of the world are being sorted and weeded out today. A detail that fell into wrongest of hands can light the paths for the good intentioned and light powered individuals.}}
{{quoteboxred|Chris did you do it?

Yes or No?

I have been cool with you and have tried treat you like a normal person, I think that you can at least return the favor with an actual response.

I'm gonna have to talk about this and it would help if you could explain what this is to me.}}

{{quotebox|I am not at liberty to discuss about this. And I ask you, please, Dillin, to not drag, yourselves into this drama as well.

This is a test of the remaining weeded out toxic individuals who would take advantage of such details.

You and Taylor are stronger and better than this.}}

{{quoteboxred|It bothers me that you can't say yes or no Chris.

I know the audio was messed with.

I just wanna know if it's true.}}

{{quotebox|I will trust you with the simple answer, then. [[Naïve|I ask you both to please not screen cap or share even this simple answer.]]

Yes

This is my test for you both as well.

Please, prove me right}}

{{quoteboxred|I won't screen cap it.}}

{{References}}
{{People}}

Affair with Mother

2022-03-23T15:01:00Z

Necromaster:

:''This page is about the affair itself. For the leaks in which Chris describes incestuous acts, see [[Incest call]] and [[Incest texts]]. For the subsequent legal consequences, see [[Jail Saga]]. For Chris's general stance on incest, see [[Chris and sex#Incest|here]].''

{{Honest}}
{{Protip|Chris is in jail on the charge of incest, not rape. Whether or not Chris's incestuous affair with Barb was entirely consensual is not known for sure. Along with that, the root cause of it currently cannot be verified, and Barb's mental state at the time can merely be guessed at. While reports often claim that Barb has dementia, these claims are entirely unproven and are based on circumstantial evidence in begging videos, where she may be playing up her frailty to elicit pity for more money. In light of all of that, ''avoid calling Chris a rapist on this wiki unless this is proven''. Popular Christory is already muddled enough.}}

{{quote|[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts|Anyhow, who among Everyone in this world has not had a dream of having sex with one of their parents?]] Never acting on them ever, [[Honest Content|I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother]].|Chris on [[Facebook]] in [[2016]]. Chris would act on his instincts five years later.}}
{{quote|You're supposed to say: "Turn me loose, you silly goose!" '''...You used to do that more flirtingly.'''|Chris while forcefully embracing [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}
[[File:SoulBonding.jpg|thumb|An artist's interpretation of the act. ([[For Julie's Eyes Only|We can only imagine that Chris shouted "BARBAAAY!" at least once when this happened.]])]]
For years, trolls had joked that [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]], in his desperation to find a [[boyfriend-free girl]], would eventually turn to [[Barbara|his mom]] based on the fact that the two were constantly in close proximity to one another and Chris made a few off-putting comments about fetishizing her. Few thought he would ever go through with the act, though – but Chris found a way to surprise and horrify everybody.

Chris and Barb's '''incestuous affair''' most likely began on 27 June,<ref name=call>[[Incest call#Transcript]]</ref><ref name=walker/> but [[June 2021 social media posts|his social media presence in]] earlier in the month, may hint at an earlier start to the affair. As early as 22 June, he began addressing Barbara by the unsettling pet name of "Barbie Chan", which may have indicated when he began to get intimate with her. After this date Chris claimed that he had sex with her once every three nights until being forcibly stopped by being removed from the house.

On 28 July 2021, during a call with [[Isabella Loretta Janke|Isabella "Bella" Loretta Janke]], [[Honest Content|Chris revealed the details of his sexual activities with his mother of his own volition]], also discussing it in text messages later that day. In those, Chris had discussed stimulating his elderly mother with his hands, performing cunnilingus on her, and having penetrative sex with her.<ref name=deviant>[[Incest fallout chat leaks#Chris texts about incest with his mother]]</ref> He claimed that Barbara compared him favorably to her previous sexual partners, including Chris's father [[Bob]], who had been unable to provide her with an orgasm or stimulate her {{w|G-spot}}.

Files were leaked to the public the following night,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/oudn5m/chris_chan_admits_to_having_sex_with_his_mother/</ref>, and social workers removed Chris from Barbara on the morning of 30 July.

In early August, Chris was [[Jail Saga|arrested, officially charged with one count of incest, and is currently being held without bail – pending trial]].

==Background and foreshadowing==
{{Needs Updating|[[Lonely feelings]], [[Teen Troon Squad chats]]}}

[[File:SuitressRedditPost.jpg|thumb|"Top 10 Hottest Anime Moms Ever", a video Chris watched on 25 July 2021, days before he would confess to incestuous acts on his mother.<ref>Date can be seen in [[:File:SuitressTablet.jpg]]</ref>]]

In general, the relationship between Chris and his mother has always been seen as a "little too close", likely due to his mother's overly coddling nature towards him in his early life all through to his adulthood. It was keenly noted during the [[DoopieDoOver|Doopie Saga]] that Chris had used the words "[[darling]]" and "dear", commonly reserved for romantic relationships, to refer to his mother.

[[File:July28BeautyArtwork.jpg|thumb|left|400px]]

Many Christorians have noted that potential hints or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris and his mother have been made previously. As early as October 2015, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement for the [[pepper spray]] incident, Chris and his mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion.<ref>[[26 December 2014#15 October Hearing]]</ref> As recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as [[Magi-Chan]], referred to his mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Furthermore, in August 2016, Chris admitted to having dreams of having sex with his mother in a Facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother".<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref> Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwi Farms that following the [[2014 house fire]], Chris and his mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating "I am not a '[[wikipedia:Norman Bates|Bates]]'. OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>

== The affair ==

On June 27, 2021, Chris began to engage in incest with his mother.<ref name=call/><ref name=walker>[[WCT DMs#New sweetheart]]</ref> Chris claimed he "approached her with care and caution," and that Barb even made the "first move."<ref name=call/>

When pressed for details on the dirty deed, Chris has shown an unsurprising lack of [[Chris and remorse|remorse]] for his actions, stating that his actions were ordained by [[Chris and religion|GodJesus Himself]]. If anything, he was more upset that [[Null]] and other people ratted him out [[Honest Content|after he provided a recorded confession to a felony to complete strangers on the internet]].<ref>[[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021]]</ref><ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 October 2021]]</ref>

=== The gory details ===

{{Protip|[[Fabricated BDSM texts|Texts purporting BDSM roleplay]] are fakes doctored by Bella. With that said, this list is still not entirely reliable, as details may vary and because Chris is [[List of Chris's lies|typically not interested in honesty in these scenarios]].}}
[[File:SurrealIncest.png|thumb|A surreal depiction of the events]]
In case you have some kind of morbid curiosity of how the affair could have went down, here is a list of "activities" that Chris had allegedly done to/with his mother:

#'''Massages'''<ref>[[July 2021 social media posts#Signature sex move]]</ref> - Presumably full body ones since it included her thighs (and her face for some reason); this is probably the same type of massage he gave to [[Mia Hamm]]. Chris would also claim in a chat with [[The WCT]] that he had bought massaging oil, and made the claim that it is perfect to use on one's lover. <ref>[[WCT DMs#Massage oil and dream]]</ref>
#'''Kissing''' - Apparently did not involve tongues.
#'''Outer Course''' - Rubbing her pussy with his fingers and hands, this happened at least twice before the next step, probably more.
#'''Intercourse''' - By this, he means fingering her, it apparently hurt her when he did so.
#'''Cunnilingus''' - Eating her out, [[Chris and his ego|claims he's good at it]]. No information about if she returned the favour. <ref name=deviant/>
#'''Penetration''' - Vaginal, apparently with the use of a condom, he proceeded to get himself tested for STI's afterwards anyway.
#'''Cuddling''' - According to a letter from jail, Chris had supposedly "cuddled" with Barb in the times of incest.<ref name=letter>[[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021]]</ref>

According to [[Null]], Chris had been buying large amounts of sex toys and lingerie from [[Adam & Eve]] for several months prior to committing his acts.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPjmy3K7uT8</ref> What sex toys Chris potentially used, if any, is uncertain.

===Negligee===
{{Main|Negligee}}
[[File:CWCWithFanJun27.png|thumb|100px|left|A photo of Chris wearing the negligee in front of a fan.]]
Chris also stated that he had purchased a negligee and claimed that Barb approved of the idea.<ref>[[WCT DMs#Sexy negligee]]</ref> This would eventually be confirmed on 3 March 2022, when a Reddit fan posted photos of themselves with Chris in the negligee.

{{clear}}

==Rationalizations==
Chris has rationalized the affair in multiple ways.

*'''Soul-Bonding and Healing''' - Chris claimed in a jail letter that [[Emanuel]] told him to have sex with Barb in order to "heal" her and "cleanse her of her sins".<ref name=letter/> [[Bella]] would use this as a means of encouraging Chris to continue his activities in the leaked incest calls. In a later letter, Chris mentions that "Soul Bonding does not necessarily constitute sex" which implies that it ''can'' be.<ref>[[Jail_Letter_-_16_November_2021]]</ref>. Chris also seems to be under the impression that if he didn't engage in this "healing" then Barbra would have died or being more heavily injured by her recent car accident, completely ignoring the fact that if Chris had not engaged in it, chances are Barb wouldn't have been in a car accident at all since she wouldn't be forced to drive on her own due to her sons absence. <ref>[[Jail_Letter_-_11_January_2022]]</ref>

*'''Defense measure against Sockness''' - Chris claimed that "my having had sex is also a defense mechanism in regards to [[Sockness]] and what he had/may have in mind with me and being near me," referring to Sockness's history of scheming to have sex with Chris, and that Chris planned to use the fact of his affair as a "truth bomb" to deter Sockness.<ref>Bella chats#Soul Bonding]]</ref>

==Leaks==
{{main|Incest call|Incest texts}}
In the leaks, Chris admits that he and his mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris masturbating his mother, and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. It is further alleged that his mother compared him to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father.

{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. Then she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played with down there by hand.|Text message from Chris to an unknown troll.<ref name=deviant></ref>}}
{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing his sexual activities with his father's sexual activities.<ref name=deviant></ref>}}
[[File:Arrestchu.jpeg|thumb|"Ladies and gentlemen, we got him."]]

The leaked audio likewise contained graphic descriptions of sexual activity, which Chris alludes to as the veracity of "incest fanfics". The authenticity of the recording was confirmed by Chris to Dillon Thomas.<ref name="admission">[[Incest fallout chat leaks#Chris confesses to Dillin Thomas]]</ref>

Prior to the allegations being revealed to the public, Chris informed [[Null]] about the fact that he found a [[boyfriend-free girl]], although he wanted her identity to remain secret. He offered multiple hints about the identity of his new [[sweetheart]], but told Null that he wanted him to figure out who it was. Null was initially skeptical of the incest claims, since the [[Idea Guys]] previously coerced him into recording a (then untrue) statement that he had raped Barb, and believed that this could be another instance of similar manipulation. Null hypothesized that Chris was attempting to protect the identity of his new girlfriend by making up an elaborate lie, but eventually came to realize that Chris had been having frequent sex with Barb upon reviewing Chris's hints.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/everything-chris-told-me-about-his-girlfriend.96659/</ref>

After this information eventually came to light, Chris indicated that it was "drama" and that he only intended to share the information to [[Messiah complex|test his followers]], who he trusted would not share the information to the public at large despite incest being illegal. Chris would later compare Null to {{w|Judas Iscariot}} for "betraying" him by trusting him with such [[Honest Content]]. [[Chris and remorse|Chris being Chris]], he seems to be more upset over the fact that [[Honest Content|trusting strangers with private information]] led to [[Jail Saga|serious, life-changing consequences for him]] than the idea that he may have caused harm to Barb, and as multiple [[jail letters]] show, he does not have guilt over the fact that he did something illegal.


==Consequences==
{{Main|Jail Saga}}
It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest – sexual activities between a parent and a child are a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. Chris was swiftly removed from his home by an Emergency Protective Order, then arrested the next day. In the wake of his charges, Chris was [[ban]]ned from [[Patreon]] and [[Tapas]]. Collaborators who had once worked with him withdrew, such as the band who released [[Love is Love (song)|Love is Love]] pulling it from sale.

Since then, he has been held without bail in Central Virginia Regional Jail, awaiting trial.<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/269663503100241/photos/a.398555170211073/4389133984486485/?type=3 Press release]</ref> If Barb consented, she could be charged as a willing participant. If Barb did ''not'' consent, as some have speculated that she may be incapable of that, Chris's potential sentence could be significantly longer given the severity of a rape charge.

==Fan videos==

{{Infobox/Fanvideo
|name = Poor Sonichu...
|ytid = WIZfv3scrx4
|stardate = 13 Feb 2022
|maker = Emperor Techno
}}

==See also==
*[[Chris and sex]]
*[[Chris and the law]]
*[[Incest fallout chat leaks]]
*[[Isabella Loretta Janke]]
*[[Ultimate Guide to Sex and Disability]]

==References==

<references/>

{{Articleofthenow}}
{{IncestSaga}}
{{Love Quest}}

Chris and sex

2022-03-21T12:22:29Z

Necromaster:

{{Honest}}
{{HealthDisclosure}}
[[Chris]] has a warped view of '''sexual intercourse''' (a.k.a. '''hanky-panky''' and '''romps in the hay'''<ref>Chris has used this phrase since approximately [[2018]], including in [[:File:SchuComic12-9Page29.JPG|Sonichu #12-9]], on his [[July 2018 social media posts#BronyCon thoughts|polyamorous marriage]] and on his [[Incest fallout chat leaks#Chris texts about incest with his mother|incest with his mother]].</ref>), mostly stemming from stunted sexual development, [[Borb|a sheltered upbringing]], and the [[Autism|twisted, disjointed]] [[Chris and reality|worldview]] he acquired as a result. He first developed an understanding of sex from watching softcore porn on HBO at around age 16. He describes pornographic films as "educational".<ref>[[Miyamoto Saga#Chris Sets the Record STRAIGHT]]</ref>

==Knowledge of sex==
In his mind, Chris has mastered all there is to know about sex, and now regards himself as a bit of a guru. He has said that kissing a woman is "magical and delightful... sweet and melting like ice cream or chocolate", a description he [[Things Chris has ripped off|stole]] from ''[[Sailor Moon]]''.<ref>[[Mailbag 18#He might as well be talking about how to pilot the space shuttle|Mailbag 18]]</ref> In truth, for much of the time he was presenting this advice Chris had yet to even kiss a girl.<ref name="Jackie E-mails 2">[[Jackie E-mails 2]]</ref>

What he knows about sex he's picked up from rudimentary [[high school]] [[Dating education|sex education]] or [[List of Chris's Adam & Eve purchases|pornography]]. This has engendered many false beliefs in Chris, which he sticks to religiously. Readers who brave his [[Chris Sex Logs|sex chat logs]] should immediately notice what's going wrong – Chris's fantasies are merely recreations of what he's seen in pornos, rather than plausible sexual experiences. For example, he believed that [[Kacey]] would welcome a brutal tit-fucking followed by load after load of [[navy]] to the face.<ref>[[Kacey Phone Call]]</ref>

Other examples of Chris's crude misconceptions about sex abound. He mimics female porn stars' sex positions, spreads an imaginary vagina a yard across,<ref name="JR Eyes">[[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV]]</ref> thinks that the clitoris is located on the female body where the [[wikipedia:Perineum|perineum]] is located on the male one<ref>[[September 2014 Facebook Posts#Introducing the Un-clit]]</ref> and believes that electric shocks to the vagina are pleasurable.<ref name="Cums cat">[[CWC Cums for a Cat]]</ref> He also seems to believe that a woman's vagina is higher up on the woman's body that it actually is;<ref>[[:File:SchuComicSP3P7.jpg]]</ref> this is undoubtedly due to his experience with his [[Kimmi|sex]] [[Officer Nasty|dolls]]. The "missionary cowgirl" position mentioned in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]] is a contradiction in terms. He can't even get the most basic double entendres correct, wearing a terrible [[CWC Cola|Mountain Dew]] parody shirt thinking it's an invitation for women to try and ride his broken [[penis]].<ref name="JR Eyes" /> He thinks that his [[Virgin with rage|virginity]] is a precious and sought-after treasure which women will come in droves to take (he even went so far as to use it as a bargaining chip to haggle with a prostitute), and believes that [[mass debating]] ultimately makes him better at sex.

With Chris's [[Chris and English|slippery grip on language]], he is also noticeably confused about basic sexual terminology. For example, Chris told Ivy he had a "sticky dream" about her. When Ivy asked if he meant a wet dream, he replied, "No, that's when you pee yourself, silly!"<ref>[[Ivy Q&A#Threats]]</ref> While he may have the best of intentions, his word choices unwittingly present him in a very bad light. He refuses to use common terms – either medical or slang – for sex organs, instead calling penises "[[duck]]s" and "[[pickle]]s", and vaginas and vulvae "[[china]]" or "tom-tom" out of a childish aversion borne of disgust.

In [[August 2011]], Chris said he is into female domination.<ref>[[Calling Out Jack Thaddius - Ahuviya]]</ref> (going as far as to draw Sonichu and Rosechu performing the act in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]]).

==Moral basis on sex and double standards==
===The Bible===
[[Image:DatingEducation.jpg|thumb|250px|69ing? Intercourse? ''Really''? In a ''children's'' comic? Because they should know all about this stuff.]]
{{quote|You have heard that it was said by them of old time, You shall not commit adultery: but I say to you, that whosoever looks on a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart.|Matthew 5:27-28}}

Sex as viewed through Chris's eyes is (partially) dictated by the Bible – or rather, by his religion, as Chris's Biblical knowledge is extremely poor. Chris is very strict on keeping to the word of God when male homosexuality is the topic, vehemently stating that he ''hates'' homos, but with no hesitation views lesbian porn and approves of it [[Mass debating|masturbatorily]]<ref>[[CWC's Second Message]]</ref>, and as of 2014, seemed to be adopting a more progressive view of even gay men and their rights (albeit begrudgingly). In 2015 Chris made a video lamenting his "past" homophobia and clarifying that he apparently now has great liking and admiration for male homosexuality, [[Retroactive continuity|retconning]] the viscous homophobic tirade of [[Sonichu 10]] into a bizarre zombie apocalypse, implying that he realizes religion is not an excuse for discrimination. Another violation of his Christian morals is the fact that he planned on losing his virginity on the [[Third date|third or fourth date]] with his true sweetheart (read: first girl who will last three dates with Chris). This is, of course, blatant violation of the Christian value of marriage before sex.

The Bible also frowns upon [[Nudes|pornographers]], of which he is very guilty and holds no apparent [[Chris and remorse|remorse]]. These double standards cause many trolls to despise him, seeing as he selectively chooses what to denigrate and what is OK in his own personal dogma, although to be fair, the same is true of many Christians anyway.

Despite people pointing out these contradictions, even quoting passages of the Bible, he will deny it. This is most likely because he goes to [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|a very liberal church]], so any question about premarital sex is probably interpreted quite liberally, and Chris believes that his church and ''only'' his church defines the entirety of religious morality - as it applies to him, anyway. When Chris asks Rocky about passages quoted to him by [[trolls]], she only fuels his à la carte Christianity by saying things like sex before marriage is okay as long as the couple is in love, which contradicts Christian doctrine.<ref>[[Mumble 8]]</ref> In summary, Chris picks and chooses what parts of Christian doctrine suit his own prejudices, and disregards the ones that would interfere with his [[Love Quest]].

===Sexism===
[[File:Female anatomy according to chris.png|thumb|A moderately detailed portrait of what Chris probably thought females looked like before meeting [[Mia Hamm]].]]

Chris seems to consider a female sexual partner as a rubber stamp over his (alleged) sexual orientation. Flying in the face of any moral system he's ever held, he announced his desire to upload on the Internet a video of his first full sexual intercourse, even if his hypothetical partner refused to consent to it.<ref>[[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence#The Introduction Image Space is NOT Ad Space (CCS)]]</ref> After further prodding, he added that he would simply hide the camera, record the event without her consent and blur her face before making the video public.<ref>[[Mailbag 31#In which Chris crosses yet another line]]</ref> In [[CCWC's Final Warning to the Second CWC]], Chris indicated that if a woman accused him of being gay in person, he would sexually assault them by demanding they submit to a kiss and allow him to videotape the act, possibly as a way of proving his straightness.

For Chris, as stated above, [[Women's rights|a woman is just a living, sentient sex-toy]], existing only to validate him as a heterosexual. As long as they're straight and younger than him, of course.

==Chris in the act==
[[Image:JULAY-small.gif|frame|right|Christian [[For Julie's Eyes Only|professing his love]] for "[[BlueSpike|Julie]]".]]
Leaked tapes of Chris's audio sex with [[Julie]], and the infamous sex tape with Kimmi shed light on Chris as he acts out on his fantasies. In particular, the sex tape shows how Chris assumes ''female'' positions, notably riding on top of Kimmi in a scene straight out of a porno. It seems that Chris's entirety of knowledge about sexual relationships stems from ignoring the [[JERKS|men]] in pornography (due to fear of becoming a [[homo]]).

However, it should be noted that in most of Chris's Rule 34 drawings the characters do tend to assume positions which are fitting for their gender, including Chris.<ref>For examples, see the [[Sonichu 8#The uncensored scenes|uncensored panels]] from Sonichu 8, [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack]], [[CWCRockin4Way.jpg]], the [[Giant Penis Comic]] and [[Jackie E-mails 14]].</ref> It might be that Chris adopts female positions not so much due to ignorance regarding sex, but more because of [[Tomgirl pictures|his identification with the opposite gender]].

Chris's view of cunnilingus, put on display in [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV]], involves slobbering all over a woman's vagina. Despite all his knowledge of porn, he fails to see how cunnilingus is more than just slobbering, but proper tongue action to stimulate the clitoris.

In the leaked media, Chris displays that he may have some issues with delayed orgasm. This can either be physiological (bent duck, [[Obesity|being overweight]], lack of endurance) or psychological in nature (performance anxiety, high expectations, intrusive homoerotic thoughts, subconscious guilt about sex), or a combination thereof.

In the 2018 [[All Star]] video, Chris is seen tugging his [[duck]] along to the song. He remains flaccid the entire time; his inability to get an erection is possibly a side effect of [[Transgender|HRT]]. If this is true, Chris will certainly not be getting any hanky-panky in the future.

During his time losing his virginity to a [[Mia Hamm| prostitute]] its worth noting that he first received a blowjob, than demanded cowgirl before possible missionary later; [[Obesity| but luckily for her]] he couldn't last very long and finished just after she rid him for a bit; this is important as it points to 2 big problems with Chris; first his lack of self control due to him [[Navy| finishing]] so quickly, second is that he ordered possibly the laziest sex position in the book, with Mia doing pretty much all of the physical exercise with Chris being a lazy fuck.

Chris's second sexual partner in his life was none other than his own [[Barb|mom]], the exact details of the [[Affair with Mother|incestuous affair]] is a bit vague but needless to say every act described by Chris is extremely disturbing and not for the faint of heart.

==Masturbation==
{{Main|Mass Debating}}

==Homosexuality==
{{main|Chris and sexuality}}

==Pedophilia==
{{main|Pedofork}}

==Bestiality==
{{quote|I can imagine myself doing it with a [[Patti-chan|collie]] at least. you know, like Lassie.|Chris to [[PandaHalo]]<ref name="collie">[[IRC (27 December 2008)]]</ref>}}
[[File:PattiLuv.jpg|thumb|Run, Patti, run!]]
[[File:Super-mode.jpg|thumb|left|90px|Chris, sporting a [[ECV 00002‎|homemade fursuit]].]]

In [[December 2008]], Chris told [[PandaHalo]] he would be willing to have sex with a female dog for her.<ref name="collie" /> However, in his [[Chris-chan Discusses...‎|interview with ScrewAttackEurope]], Chris says he's against bestiality, then hoists himself by his own petard by claiming that Sonichu & co. are not "half-humans" but "all-animals" with human form; so technically this isn't bestiality, as they're animals having sex with each other.

Chris suggested that Brian from ''[[Family Guy]]'' be paired up with "any sexy breed" of dog.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20161007175309/http://archive.sonichu.com:80/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Family_Guy The Family Guy article on CWCipedia]</ref>

In [[The Red-Maned Deer]], Chris recites a poem he wrote about having sex with a deer, but at the end of it states, "This was, in fact, NOT an act of bestiality. For you see, the Red-Maned Deer I have been communicating with and tracking, is really...my lo-my womanly sweetheart, named [[Jacklyn Romy]]."<ref>[[The Red-Maned Deer]]</ref> The fact that the deer is Jackie is obvious, but in spite of this he explicitly stated that it was her at the end.

In a photo of the [[Rental House]] from June 2014, the Chandler minivan bears a bumper sticker reading "I Sleep with Dogs".<ref>[[:File:Chandler Cars 1600w.jpg]]</ref> What exactly this means is yet to be determined.

===Is Chris a furry?===
{{Wise|he is a furry.}}

{{quote|I am half-Sonichu and half-Pokemon, thus making me a "furry".|Chris, May 2018, during the aftermath of the [[Idea Guys]] saga.<ref>https://tweetsave.com/cwcsonichu/status/997320832040005634</ref>}}

Whether Chris could actually be considered a furry was debated for a long time.<ref>From [[Sarah May Skype Logs#Chris tries to leave|the Sarah May Skype Logs]]: [7:17:25] '''Sarah May''': Did you feel sexually aroused when you drew them? [7:17:34] '''Christopher C.W.C.''': a bit.</ref> There are some things that point in that direction. Chris certainly gets aroused by provocative drawings of anthropomorphic animals (at least when they are [[Sonic]] characters), and he has drawn unsolicited porn of his own Sonic recolors. [[Chris-chan Sonichu]] is in many ways similar to a fursona, and Chris even role-played the character while cybering with [[Julie]].<ref name="Cums cat" /> Finally, in the [[Giant Penis Comic]], Chris and [[Ivy]] both transform into anthropomorphic animals during the act of sex. On the other hand, [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] noted that Chris was prejudiced against a male furry who patronized [[The GAMe PLACe]] because he happened to be [[gay]].<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Racism and homophobia]]</ref> Given the high proportion of gay and bisexual men in the furry fandom, Classic Chris would almost certainly have been uncomfortable at any kind of furry gathering.

In [[May 2018]], under the influence of the [[Idea Guys]], Chris declared himself a furry.<ref>[[May_2018_social_media_posts#Michael_Hirtes_BTFO]]</ref> The Idea Guys also [[brainwashed]] him into believing he is in a [[polyamorous marriage]] with his anthropomorphic [[imaginary friends]] [[Magi-Chan]] and [[Cryzel]], and Chris believes he has had sexual relations with these imaginary friends.<ref>[[July 2018 social media posts#BronyCon thoughts]]</ref>

While Chris may loosely qualify as a furry due to his obsession with anthropomorphic [[Electric Hedgehog Pokemon]] and [[My Little Pony|ponies]], he has never shown an interest in the broader furry community.

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==Prostitution==
[[Image:Virginbreaker.png|thumb|Chris's leaked [[Facebook]] announcement that he had lost his virginity. Initially igniting a firestorm of controversy, Chris himself let it slip that she was found "somewhere on the backpage" soon after.]]

Given how badly Chris wanted to lose his virginity, many observers have wondered why he didn't immediately spend some of his [[tugboat]] on a prostitute. [[Mumble 4]], from [[February 2009]], answered that question for a while. There, Chris explained that paying for sex would render the act "meaningless," and he was – in a rare display of common sense – afraid of contracting a sexually transmitted disease.

Needs must as the devil drives, though. While being blackmailed by [[Jack Thaddeus]] in the summer of [[2009]], Chris attempted to solicit the services of a Craigslist prostitute to fuck on camera so he could recover his hacked [[PlayStation Network]] accounts. After describing his personal problems to the prostitute, she hung up on him. Chris was apparently trying to get free sex from the hooker with long, rambling stories about his horrible life to try and gain sympathy. He was genuinely shocked when she didn't offer to fuck him out of pity, unaware that prostitutes, by definition, only have sex with men for money.

Previously, in [[March 2009]], [[Bryan Bash]] had sent a trio of prostitutes to [[14 Branchland Court|Chris's house]] so he would no longer be a virgin with rage. [[Hooker incident|Hilarity ensued]].

By the beginning of [[2010]], Chris's views on prostitution had further softened. According to his [[Vivian Gee E-mails 2|conversations with Vivian Gee]], around the turn of the year he was attempting to save $100 out of his monthly budget to buy himself a whore for his 28th [[birthday]]. This, presumably, was the "hundred dollars for a damn hooker" he referred to when [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|begging the Wallflower for sex]] on YouTube in [[March 2010]].

Between [[April 2010|April]] and [[July 2010]], under the name of [[Carlos Chantor]], Chris tried to offer himself up as a male escort. He described himself as "[[Chris and reality|Experienced for Her Pleasure]]", with an [[obesity|average]] body type.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 6]]</ref>

Later, under the guise of his troll persona [[JenkinsJinkies]], Chris attempted to acquire the contact details of the hookers Brian Bash had previously hired. While it is possible that Chris merely wished to make his disguise more convincing by implying that 14 year old Jenkins wished to hire prostitutes, it seems far more likely that Chris actually was considering hiring Brian's girls.

In [[April 2012]] a [[Facebook]] status leaked in which Chris announced that he was no longer a virgin. Suspicion arose that this was due to the help of a hooker. Chris provided further evidence suggesting that [[Mia Hamm|the girl]] was a prostitute on 1 [[May 2012|May]] when he wrote in a [[Facebook#Hey, Trollies|Facebook note]] that his virgin breaker can be found "somewhere on the [[Wikipedia:Backpage|backpage]]", a website known for featuring sex service ads.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20210206132219/https://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/19/opinion/kristof-not-quite-a-teen-yet-sold-for-sex.html?_r=1]</ref> On 28/29 June 2014 Chris openly admitted that his first time was with a prostitute, and that he had sex with her twice.<ref>[[Other documents#Chris's wingman]]</ref>

In [[June 2016]], Chris himself made [[Women Only Need Apply - No STD's|another attempt]] to enter the prostitution business, now as a [[Tomgirl|trans woman]], going by the name "Stephanie Bustcakes". Predictably, Chris was unable to find any "women of any orientation" who were interested in paying him $100 to have sex either "one way or the lesbian way", and the Stephanie Bustcakes persona has not yet reappeared.

[[File:ChrisChanSexForMoney.png|thumb|200px]]
On 24 April 2018, while under the influence of the [[Idea Guys]], who had allegedly been extorting him out of thousands of dollars, Chris announced:<ref>[[April 2018 social media posts#Will provide house tour and suck dicks for money]]</ref>

{{quotebox|Anyone living locally to me in Virginia, or visiting in Charlottesville, I’ll give y’all BJs for money too. Serious.}}

A fan on Twitter messaged him about it. In their conversation, Chris said:<ref name=price>[[:File:NAME YOUR PRICE!!.jpeg]]</ref>

{{quotebox|Consider me a beginner with experience blowing [[Cryzel and Magi-Chan|my loving boyfriend]], willing to learn and adapt further. $50 for that BJ from this celeb; if he wants butt sex, that will be $100. Cash only.}}

Chris told [[CWCProtectSquad]] member Tings Tingz that he was indeed serious about prostituting himself, had several offers, but had not taken on any customers. When asked if he would consider, Chris responded, "a little from Column 'A' and the latter from Column 'B'".<ref>[[Tings Tingz DMs#Prostitution post]]</ref>

After the [[Guard Dogs]] rescued Chris from the Idea Guys' influence, he reversed course and disavowed the prostitution messages on 7 May 2018, saying he had been coerced.<ref>https://tweetsave.com/cwcsonichu/status/993693423084318720</ref> He went further on 25 May, saying he had been forced to write such things, and implied the Idea Guys had been behind it.<ref>[[May 2018 social media posts#Calling out the Idea Guys]]</ref>

==Incest==
{{See also|Affair with Mother}}
{{Quote|I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with [[Barbara Chandler|my mother]].|Chris, 2016}}

[[File:CWCSonichu Rule34.jpeg|thumb|Chris having sex with his "son," Sonichu, in order to fulfill a prophecy to bring Crystal into the world.]]

Chris has long been suspected of having unnatural feelings about [[sex]] and family.

In [[2007]], Chris attempted to shock [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] into submission by posting his own [[Rule 34]] drawings, including one of himself [[Shecameforcwc.jpg|fingerbanging a nude brunette woman]]. ED users immediately concluded this was Crystal, Chris's imaginary twin sister in the comics. This charge infuriated Chris and therefore became the conventional wisdom. By the time Chris successfully convinced anyone that it was really [[Megan Schroeder]] in the drawing, the notion that Chris wants to bang his imaginary twin sister had already stuck.

[[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|Crystal]], Chris's imaginary twin sister, appeared as a [[:image:153-GirlfriendsGift.jpg|"girlfriend" card]] he made for ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'', and her attractiveness and desirability are brought up several times in the [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'']] comics well after being established as Chris's twin. Chris has shown complete ignorance in matters incestuous before; his [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] are all related (despite their type and appearance differences, they all come from [[homos|Sonic and the same male Pikachu]] – apart from that fact, they were all created by Chris and acknowledge him as such – Sonichu and Rosechu calling him father), but many of them are paired off with one another (notably Sonichu/Rosechu, Bubbles/Blake, and Magi/Silvana – Simonla was technically made by someone else), banging and some even [[Sonichu and Rosechu's children|having]] [[Sandy Rosechu|kids]]. Chris's own comic children are a form of incest – as Chris impregnated himself with his navy. Chris shrugs off [[Autism|all medical/science facts]] and lists the two as perfectly healthy and Autism Free.

Chris first expounded his views on incest to the internet on 31 [[January 2009]] during the [[Mumble 1|first Mumble chat]], when it was revealed that he did not fully understood the meaning of the word "incest". While he showed aversion toward incest in the chat, his condemnation of it was lukewarm, saying that he would only "definitely discourage that" and that lesbian incest is "possibly OK" due to no reproduction being involved. Compare this to his statements about male homosexuality from the same chat ("I hate homo males [...] I'd sooner have a [[Tomgirl Saga|sex change]] before I would ever turn into a homo") or to his statements about male homosexuality from earlier that month, saying that he would make it a crime and force its practitioners into having sex with members of the opposite gender.<ref>[[IRC (02 January 2009)]]</ref>

A year later, Chris's views became staunch. When a correspondent in the [[Mailbag]] pointed out that Chris's state allows cousin marriage but not same-sex marriage, Chris furiously denied it and wrote, "Cousin-Marriage is just as Terrible and Unholy as MARRYING YOUR OWN MOTHER OR FATHER!"<ref>[[Common Questions#5 January 2010]]</ref> When another correspondent responded to Chris by saying that he is happily married to his cousin and that their marriage is indeed legal in Virginia, Chris answered him by saying he was destined to hell for his relationship,<ref>[[Mailbag 34#Good luck in hell]]</ref> not realizing that incest is shown in a positive light in [[Chris and religion|the Bible]]. When the subject came up again in the next mailbag, Chris said that sexual relations between cousins are just as wrong as incest between parents and their children or between siblings, and that all those relationships were condemned in the "same part" of the Bible,<ref>[[Mailbag 35#I think he wanted a specific verse]]</ref> which is not actually true.<ref> [https://web.archive.org/web/20051223102404/http://www.cousincouples.com/?page=religion]</ref> In [[February 2010]], Chris notably did not react to [[:File:Fkinglie.png|an extremely NSFW ad of himself]] on the [[CWCipedia]] depicting himself fingering Barb [[SheCameForCWC.jpg|like he did with a former friend in a certain illustration]], despite reacting to [[I am Alive|an ad claiming that he was dead]].

During the [[Idea Guy]] saga, the troll convinced Chris that [[Magi-Chan]] foretold of a prophecy in which [[Crystal]] would be born by Chris mating with Sonichu. He also informed Chris that if this was drawn, he wouldn't have to do it in real life. Chris complied<ref>https://archive.md/AL1PT</ref>. During the nonsensical [[Sonichu 13| issue 13]] of Sonichu incest is unsurprisingly everywhere, from [[Chris Chan Sonichu]] getting married to [[Magichan]] to Chris and Sonichu raping each other.

To the [[Watchmen]], Chris chatted about how he was upset over implications of incest in the ''Sonichu'' family, stating that he had written a piece to dispute the "ugh, Incest bullshit."<ref>[[Undated Watchmen leaks#Ugh, Incest]]</ref>

In a Facebook post from [[January 2020]], Chris reiterated his opposition to incest, writing "I, personally, seriously disapprove of incest and would never practice it at all" and "The Bottom Line is: Incest is Never 'Wincest' (Epic UGH!)".<ref>[[January 2020 social media posts#Incest is not wincest]]</ref>

===Dreams of sex with Barb===
On 10 August 2016, Chris posted a [[Facebook statuses|response]] to a mother-son couple who were arrested for incest. He admitted to "[having] dreams of having sex with my mother" but "Never acting on them ever." Among other things, he also implied that incest "offers a chance for better teaching the child how to better satisfy their eventual partner(s)." All this is in stark contrast to his earlier condemnation of incest, which raises the question of whether Chris was being TRUE and HONEST but changed his opinion later thanks to his growing degeneracy, or the likelier possibility it was [[Hypocrisy|all for show]].

{{quotebox|I have a few things to say in response to this article. Firstly, the child was over 18, and surely the mother has talked it out with him beforehand. The child might have had social problems, or a situation where socializing or going out to socialize with other people, was a Greater Difficulty. Financial situation to prevent paying someone else to come over and help out in the situation. Moreover, it was the lifelong affections between parent and child. Also, the mother probably could not bear any ovum for children anymore.
Anyhow, who among Everyone in this world has not had a dream of having sex with one of their parents? Never acting on them ever, I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother.
Although incest is quite controversial topic, but there are circumstances where there would be not so much harm as one may think, feel or believe. The child is over 18; the mother is unable to have any more children at the time; birth control and protection is available and can be used (in a case of father/daughter, birth control Definitely should be used anyhow). Also, consider if the child is adopted; not as much biological.
Plus, this offers a chance for better teaching the child how to better satisfy their eventual partner(s). The schools can only teach from books; not so much practice. And Nobody wants to end up being a 20 or 30-plus year old Virgin. I know; That is a Huge, Enduring Pain.
Unless the sex act was abusive, hurtful, or Would result in an unwanted birth of a physical or mental challenged child, I would not judge or persecute the parent and child. I would encourage the child to socialize more; maybe make it easier for the child to meet more people his/her age.
Do Not send the mother and son to jail!}}

On 13 September 2019, while [[Spirit possession|role-playing]] as Magi-Chan, Chris would describe Barb as a "guilty pleasure waifu."<ref>[[September 2019 social media posts#Barbara was more of a "guilty pleasure" waifu]]</ref>

===Actual sex with Barb===

While it was joked about for many years, most people did not believe Chris would actually go through with it. Before the [[Incest call]] was leaked, there were numerous warning signs of what was to come, the main one being the fact Barb would force Chris to spoon her in bed for many years and telling to Mia Hamm that the sexual massage he gave her was the same that he gave his mother. Their actions around eachother have indicated incestuous interest in each over for a while, however many just assumed that this was a combination of Chris's [[Autism]] making him act inappropriately and Barb's infamously controlling behaviour.

After the incest calls were leaked it was revealed that Chris had been engaging in regular sex with Barb every 3 nights or so for ''months'', his "seduction" methods included giving her full body massages while making attempts to finger her, kissing her on the lips with Barb refusing to open her mouth and Chris making "Psychic connections" with her before, during and after their romps in the hay.

It's also noteworthy that Chris refers to Barb as "Barbie Chan" almost exclusively now; whether this has something to do with her supposed anime fanfiction characteristics, a bizarre pet name or Chris trying to subconsciously distance himself from their familial bonds is unknown.

==Rape==
Chris was very apathetic about the idea of consent, and to a larger extent, the act of rape. When [[PandaHalo]] told him she was raped by [[Clyde Cash]], he reacted nonchalantly. He even thought it would be appropriate for Panda to ''move in'' with her rapist ([[Chris and religion|which is technically in-line with certain archaic Christian principles]]), whom he called a "good man" for regretting the rape and for being willing to take care of the ensuing child.<ref>[[IRC (21 January 2009)]]</ref> Later on, long after the PandaHalo saga was over, he would wish her and her rapist a happy marriage.<ref>[[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)#Sarah Cassandra McKenzie, A.K.A. PandaHalo]]</ref> In [[iPods Down and Listen Up]], he didn't seem to realize that his improvised lyrics detailed a sexual act that would almost certainly be construed by others as rape. Chris eventually compared his ordeals with the trolls, particularly during the [[Christorical eras|Classic Era]] to rape in his Facebook posts. (Since [[BlueSpike]]'s [[Julie Reveals Herself|most infamous incident]] involved an act that could be described as sexual abuse in front of several people, this is admittedly a fitting description.)

As far as ''Chris'' being a potential rapist is concerned, the situation was more complicated. For starters, he admitted that he drew [[ShecameforCWC.JPG]] to prevent himself from acting on his sexual impulses against [[Megan Schroeder]], who had previously scolded him for inappropriately touching her. During a particularly [[IRC (23 July 2009)|disturbing chat]], he ([[:File:BillRiley.jpg|incognito]]) suggested that the trolls try to convince him to rape [[Rocky Shoemaker]]. He also evidently saw no issue with rape by fraud (essentially having sex with someone while tricking them into believing you're somebody else, meaning they didn't consent with you) as seen with his comic book counterpart when he travels forwards in time to have sex with his future wife [[Lovely Weather]] in the guise of being his future self [[Transgender|(whom is definitely a different person in the future)]]. During the [[Kacey Calls]], he attempted unsuccessfully to lure her to his place in the guise of being [[Liquid Chris]], again seeing absolutely nothing wrong with that.

In all likelihood, though, these parts of his behavior are most likely explained by the keys to understanding his behavior overall: his ignorance about the world and his persecution complex causes him to be quite [[naïve]] about how bad rape actually is. With the Rocky situation above, he likely said that as part of an odd, roundabout scheme to get the trolls arrested, but it's still pretty fucked up that he'd even suggest something like this, let alone tell her about it after.

Chris has a surprisingly mature moral opinion on the subject of abortion in cases of rape; in one of the [[Kacey Calls]], he states he believes that abortion in these cases should be the choice of the victim only and that they should not be pressured by others in their decision.

Despite joking about how uncomfortably close he was to his own mother, few actually believed that Chris had it in him to commit an act of rape. For instance, he tried to kiss [[Emily]] and gave up when she said no,<ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#A precious farewell (1:29:35–1:31:10)]]</ref> showing that he does understand the importance of consent... Or at least, he ''used'' to. Unfortunately, it seems that as of 2014, he has decided that he won't take "no" for an answer, and basically ''molested'' [[Catherine#The Date|Catherine during their second outing]] by hugging her and burying his head in her breasts even after she flatly told him not to. This gets even more disturbing when you consider [[Catherine E-mails#It IS Your Fault!|this e-mail]], where Chris outright says that he's [[Chris and his Ego|"entitled to a relationship"]]. Also not helping matters was Chris kissing multiple guests who posed with him at the [[TooManyGames]] convention regardless of consent, which ultimately got him kicked out.

Furthermore, it was argued that Chris didn't have a history of violence conducive to attempting sexual assault. Aside from his [[Death threats#Likelihood of Acting Out on Death Threats|habit of dishing out threats he can't possibly carry out]], [[28 October 2011|hitting Michael Snyder with a car]], and [[26 December 2014|macing a manager in the chest]], Chris is physically [[Chris and health|very weak and unfit]], and simply could not overpower an able-bodied person – the only outcome of him attempting it would be a swift knee to the [[duck]] followed by a rousing round of [[Kick the Autistic|America's favorite game]]. However, given Catherine's experience with Chris during their outing (in her words, she was taken by surprise and couldn't react to it), it was encouraged that women should exercise caution around him.

Interestingly, Chris details in [[Announcement 06292016]] that he wants all men to stay an arm's length distance away from him. Along with showing the insecurities he possesses concerning men, Chris seems to think that he is [[Chris and his ego|an attractive enough]] [[Transgender|transwoman]] for [[Jacob Sockness|a man]] to consider raping him.

Questions of whether or not Chris was capable of rape have been discussed previously among observers, but the situation became much more complicated in [[2021]] following Chris's [[Affair with Mother|incest]] with [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]], which has not been proven to be consensual or non-consensual despite circumstantial evidence pointing toward the latter. In light of the information revealed through the [[Incest call]] and other outlets from around the same time, it's unclear whether or not Barb agreed to have sex with her son or if he forced himself onto her, and as such, it is not clear if Chris is actually a rapist. Chris noted that Barb appeared to be "partially confused" during certain sexual encounters, which fueled longtime speculation she could have a degenerative mental disease, which would thus make her unable to consent.

For what it's worth, Chris mentioned that Barb made the first move, which would be consistent with certain inappropriate behavior that she got Chris to do earlier in life (such as asking him to spoon with her). As there is little context as to what happened during the incestuous affair, [[List of Chris's lies|as Chris is known for being an unreliable source of information]], and as Barb has not spoken about the subject, it cannot clearly be confirmed to be rape without a proper criminal investigation. Chris has also not been charged with rape despite spending months in jail, awaiting his trial for the incest charge. With Barb being declared mentally competent enough to live on her own in 14 Branchland Court, it is unlikely that rape charges will be pursued without her testimony, and even then, that would only happen if she decides to throw Chris under the bus. In the event that the affair was consensual, Barb would also most likely want to avoid incriminating herself, as she herself could face a charges if she was a willing participant.

==Contraceptives==

{{quote|Confidentially, I wear a condom during the second half when I masturbate; I use Trojan or LIfestyles brand (Trojan mostly)

And I used condoms when I fooled with the [[Officer Nasty|L.D.s]] as well.|Chris, [[Jackie E-mails 1]]}}

Condoms, or as Chris has called them "'''raincoats'''", are thin latex coverings worn over a man's penis for the purpose of birth control. However, Chris seemed to understand the condom as more of a symbol for promoting safe premarital sex rather than as a contraceptive. Aside from promoting safe sex and justifying premarital sex, Chris has also drawn his male Sonichu characters with condoms in order to censor their penises. Chris has stated that before his third date with [[Blanca]], he'd wear a condom for the first two times they've had sex, only to have non-protected sex by the third date, showing that he also believed that condoms serve more as some kind of gateway to pregnancy. Chris had a box of chocolate-flavored condoms that he purchased to be prepared for his first time. Chris had given a few different dates for when they expired; some time in 2010 <ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Chris_Sex_Logs#Condoms</ref> and January 2013.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/IRC_(27_December_2008)</ref>

Chris reportedly also wore a condom that was flavored like green apple while engaging in sex with Mia Hamm.<ref>[[July 2020 social media posts]]</ref>. Its not entirely clear whether the condom was entirely successful or not due to him mentioning that a "Smidge" of Navy had leaked out after their first round together, meaning he either kept them in his pocket far too long, the condom didn't fit entirely properly around his [[Duck]], he became flaccid way faster than he should have, or he's an idiot who mistook a smear of lube or vaginal discharge for semen; knowing Chris any of these [[Chris and negligence| explanations]] [[Duck| are]] [[Health| equally]] [[Slow in the minds| possible]]. For those wondering however, it's probably safe to assume [[Mia Hamm]] won't be harboring [[Crystal]] any time soon; even by some non-existent chance he managed to get her pregnant, she would have likely been on the pill anyway.

Chris would later reveal to [[Null]] that he was using a condom while having sex with his "over 50 girlfriend", who was later discovered to be [[Barb]]. While ploughing a woman like Barb would cause anyone to instinctively wear the thickest condom available, then get themselves tested a few times over just in case (all of which Chris did); realistically there wasn't much reason to do so since the risk of STD and pregnancy was non-existent since both were [[Health|(at least where STIs were concerned)]] clean and both were completely infertile.

==See also==
* [[China]]
* [[Chris and his Ego]]
* [[Chris and gender]]
* [[Chris and sexuality]]
* [[Chris Sex Logs]]
* [[Duck]]
* [[Homos]]
* [[Mass debating]]
* [[Naive]]
* [[Pickle]]
* [[Semen]]
* [[ShecameforCWC.JPG]]
* [[Women's rights]]
* [[Affair with Mother]]

== References ==
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{{Love quest}}
{{Chris and}}
[[Category:Concepts influenced by Idea Guy]]

Null

2022-03-21T12:21:21Z

Necromaster: If you set the standard that you must prevent "misinformation" against Isabella at all costs then this standard has to be set all over the platform. What I added is undeniably true from your perspective

{{Honest}}

{{Unreliable|type=cred| Despite the numerous attempts to convince him of the truth about Isabella; Null continues to push misinformation about [[Isabella Janke]] (such as the false rumour that she tortures animals, abuses transgender people or has anything to do with the completely unrelated DDOS attacks against the Kiwi Farms).}}

{{quote|I systematically dismantled all these people taking advantage of him.|Null, summarizing "Operation: Kingsnake".<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJXVdmPN9jM YouTube - "Null (Owner of Kiwi Farms) talks dismantling Idea Guys"]</ref>}}

{{quote|Oh! My goodness!!! [[Bisexual|You are sooo handsome and cute]]!!!|Chris, [[May 2018]], while receiving help from Null.<ref>[[:File:CWC drawing for Joshua Moon.jpg]]</ref>}}

{{quote|Even a look into Null’s eyes reveals his demonic influence, even photographed.|Chris, [[November 2019]], after having been [[brainwashed]] by [[Jacob Sockness]] into believing Null is evil.<ref name=demonic>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1190919083606335488</ref>}}

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'''Joshua Conner Moon''', better known by his online alias '''"Null"''', is the current owner of [[Kiwi Farms]] (formerly the [[CWCki Forums]]). He was a former advisor for [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]. Though he initially led the forum as a way of monitoring and documenting Chris's shenanigans, over time he shifted focus away from Chris after his father died. From there, he would occasionally contact Chris when it was determined that Chris needed help, like after the [[2014 house fire]] or during the saga of the [[self-inflicted taint wound]].

During the spring of 2018, Null began acting as one of Chris's volunteer advisors, alongside fellow [[Guard Dogs]] The Captain and Marvin, helping him by filtering his email messages to weed out [[ween]] messages from legitimate [[business]] dealings,<ref>[https://archive.md/M8n3n Null discussing Chris' legitimate business offers]</ref> as well as offering advice, such as warning Chris not to invade people's personal space at other conventions after Chris' behavior had gotten him [[banned|kicked out]] of [[TooManyGames]]. He had felt motivated to assist Chris after learning that the [[Idea Guys]] had scammed Chris out of enough money to put him at risk of losing his home.<ref name="currenttrolls">[https://archive.md/dWRg3 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>

Null's participation dwindled for a while, but Chris reconciled with him for a while early in [[2021]]. Null positioned himself to be something of a caretaker for Chris, being one of the few people that he would listen to, organizing travel plans for him to safely get to conventions while also getting him in the habit of completing commission work to fund those travel plans. He stated that when [[Barbara]] dies, he had plans to try to get Chris into assisted living.

Of course, things did not work out that way. In the wake of the July 2021 [[Affair with Mother|incest]] allegations against Chris, Null had a conversation with Chris in which he found that Chris lied about his financial situation and that Chris had taken money from Barbara's bank account in a potential violation of his EPO. Following the conversation, Null cut ties with Chris, while Chris felt betrayed that the information about his incestuous acts came to light. Chris now sees Null as a Judas Iscariot-like figure once his [[Messiah complex]] reached new heights, since he now believes himself to be Jesus reincarnated.

==Ownership of Kiwi Farms==
{{main|Kiwi Farms}}
{{quote|I started hosting the CWCki Forums in [[2013]]. Before [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] died, trolling Chris was particularly funny, but after Bob has died, it has become less funny and more miserable every goddamn year.|Null, on Chris' [[weens|current-day trolls]].<ref name="currenttrolls" />}}
Previously existing as a Chris-focused message board in various iterations, in February 2015 the CWCki Forums was consolidated into the Kiwi Farms, shifting focus away from just Chris as the board expanded its horizons to other potential lolcows. Though he wasn't its founder, Null is the current owner of the site, though has often referred to Chris as a "dead cow" and largely shifts his focus to moderating the other boards.<ref>[https://archive.md/LXgYS Null deems Chris a "dead cow"]</ref>

In November 2014, Null wrote a post on how he had closed down a private discussion subforum used by trolls. He did so in an attempt to discourage trolls after [[Thetan]] and [[Catherine|Cousin Al]]'s antics (respectively, impersonating multiple people in Chris's life, and rooting through Chris's garbage), saying that the impact on Chris's personal life was too great to permit the private subforum to remain.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/x-post-closure-of-the-cwcki-forums-private-discussion-board.5783/</ref>

==On-again, off-again advisor==
[[File:BBOSBox.jpg|thumb|200px|The Kiwi Farms care package.]]
[[File:BBOSLetter.jpg|thumb|200px|The smaller items included, including a letter.]]
===Fundraiser===

In 2014, after Chris [[14_Branchland_Court#Destruction_of_the_Chandler_Household|accidentally burned down his house]], Null sympathized, as he himself had suffered a house fire in his youth. He organized a fundraiser on the forum that resulted in several hundred dollars worth of supplies being sent as a care package for Chris to get on his feet again, with the remainder of the amount sent as a money order. Mistakenly thinking that the money order was signed incorrectly (and thus rendered useless), Chris insulted Null by calling him a "{{w|Dodo}} brain" on Facebook.<ref>[[January 2014 Facebook Posts#Hey, Dodo Brain!]]</ref> In 2017, Chris piled on by tweeting "Null is a dull lull; [[random-access humor|LOL]].<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts]]</ref>"

===Involvement with Guard Dogs===
{{main|Guard Dogs}}

Null pushed to have the [[Idea Guys]] investigated for their alleged extortion and blackmailing of Chris. For a time, Null assisted Chris by screening his messages to separate [[ween]] and [[troll]] e-mails from legitimate [[business]] dealings. The other Guard Dogs had vouched for Null to Chris, who rationalized the inclusion of Null – whom he would have considered a troll at any other point in time due to his ownership of [[Kiwi Farms]] – by playing make-believe that Stan Smith, a character from ''American Dad!'', had vouched for Null as well:

{{quote|when Chris first started messaging me he said that Stan Smith from ''American Dad'' said I was somehow affiliated with the FBI/CIA, which I think is entirely his head canon. If you wonder why I'm a big softy with Chris, there's a good example.|Null<ref name=stan>https://archive.md/rh1K0</ref>}}

[[File:CWC drawing for Joshua Moon.jpg|thumb|250px|Drawing Chris sent to Null. Note how uncomfortable Null's Ponysona looks after Chris hits on him.]]

Chris's communication with Null got off to a rocky start. Null tried to avoid the subject of Chris's delusions as he did not want to further damage Chris's mental state, but Chris insisted on bringing up the matter. Null was subsequently horrified by what he had learned about Chris's deteriorating psyche:

{{quote|He is utterly convinced [fictional characters are real]. I can't approach the topic with him at all. The first thing he asked me when we started talking was if I believed in the alternate dimensions and I said no. He got very mad, started describing his adventures, and I had to walk it back by saying "I can only speak on experience".|Null<ref>https://archive.md/kMRyG</ref>}}

Shortly after beginning talks with Null, Chris drew an art piece of him as a ''[[My Little Pony]]'' character to show appreciation for his Guard Dog-related efforts in May 2018, and followed Kiwi Farms's Twitter account a few days later. The drawing features Chris calling Null "handsome and cute". In spite of the best efforts of the Guard Dogs, however, Chris continued to hold many of the Idea Guy-based delusions to his heart as he eagerly anticipated the [[Dimensional Merge]] and his role in it.

===Disillusionment with Chris===

However, despite efforts from Null and the other Guard Dogs, Chris still managed to bumble his way into the embrace of trolls such as the [[Teen Troon Squad]]. In addition, Chris constantly tried to steer conversations towards his fantasies as a distraction from reality that the Guard Dogs would bring up, as seen in [[Guard Dog chats]]. Null was eventually alienated by this behavior and walked away from Chris.

On 25 [[August 2019]], Chris, during his phase of role-playing as [[Magi-Chan]], attempted to get back in contact with Null, though Chris got upset and ragequit when Null refused to entertain his delusions.

{{quote|Chris just sent me some shit out of the blue and he immediately got upset and shut up after I addressed him as "Chris" instead of Magichan. Every single time I see this ludicrous faggot shit he's doing it's like losing {{w|Terry A. Davis|Terry [Davis]}} again. It makes me so fucking sad.|Null<ref>https://archive.md/k62h6</ref>}}

Months later, when a Kiwi Farms user wondered if Null would be intervening with [[Jacob Sockness]] during that saga, Null reiterated his stance that he had washed his hands of Chris:

{{quote|I'm not doing shit. Stop tagging me into the Chris board. I don't care.|Null<ref>https://archive.md/R2ZMj</ref>}}

===Chris turns against Null===
{{quote|Even Null will be cowering before the judgment of the good deities, including Christine Weston Chandler Sonichu, herself.|Chris, June 2020, during his phase of [[role-play]]ing as [[Sonichu]].<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1267923788412452866?s=19</ref>}}

In [[November 2019]], Sockness, intent on [[Chris and manipulation|manipulating]] Chris to trust only him, maligned Null to Chris, telling Chris that Null was a murderer and accused him of being "the devil in human flesh".<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20191103065043if_/https://twitter.com/wkbh1983/status/1190880485716582400 2 Nov 2019 tweet (archive)]</ref>

Since Sockness had been giving validation for Chris's Dimensional Merge beliefs, Chris easily took his word on Null, who had only given help based in reality and refused to entertain Chris's fantasies during his time as a Guard Dog. Chris then took to Twitter to denigrate Null and the Kiwi Farms. Among his quotes:

{{quotebox|I personally attest and confirm to these things against the Farms and Null. I am well-aware that not Everyone on the Farms is evil, but I still see genuine good amongst the remainder. Even a look into Null’s eyes reveals his demonic influence, even photographed. But, at this point and juncture, I feel it is time that I step up and finally begin the process of taking down the KiwiFarms for good. Everyone with genuine good in your hearts, I implore you all to leave the web forum for good. The time of its downfall in these set of events is upon us. I stand with the Good People in deity-level Light Power to take down the evils Null has been trying to influence upon everyone. The lives of those taken by his influence shall not have been lost in vain. Null, Troll Us No More! ⚡️💙⚡️<ref name=demonic></ref>}}

{{quotebox|Look, I Understand how this affects y’all, the good peoples; I am not blind to that. Which is Why I am encouraging all of you to ditch the KiwiFarms and escape Null’s deceptive grasp. Don’t let yourselves continue to be linked to this slew of murderous links and malintentions.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1191058119901749249</ref>}}

{{quotebox|[...] defending the Earths from the likes of Null and Jakoba. ⚡️💙⚡️<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1191800205626298369</ref>}}

Chris further stated that pony Null would die in the Dimensional Merge, while noting that the Idea Guys would live:

{{quotebox|I have read, re-read and meditated on this event: I confirm that [Sockness's assertion that trolls will not survive the Merge as their OCs will be wiped out] happens to the self-counterparts of all Haters and really bad people of 1218, as they were isolated in this one distant “Troll City”; All neutral and Good Trolls remain unaffected, as well as the few select bad people and haters, as they are fated to continue for a future judgment and retribution, such as [[Idea Guys|IdeaGuy and Boyd]] paying back what they extorted. I do confirm, that not of a disease, but a fated event literally took out Null’s Equestria (Pony) OC and self-counterpart, even though drawn by my hand some time ago. This had happened beyond my own control. So, among the bulk of Haters, Null will not survive.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1193056298750955525</ref>}}

===Allies again===
[[File:CWCCoinPose.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris attempts to photograph a profile shot of himself for Null's coin run.]]
{{quote|Moon is an ally; we are of neutral feeling about him, and we are most grateful for his help and abilities throughout all of these times, despite his consciously spoken “disbelief” in things “fictional”, regardless of them all being literal fact and happening as we speak.|Chris in [[Discord Q&A 2]], August 2020.}}
[[File:Nullcwccoin.jpg|thumb|100px|Final design of the coin.]]

After [[Sockness]]'s influence over Chris ended, Chris viewed Null as an ally once again. Null assisted Chris with arranging potential interviews.<ref>[[November 2020 social media posts#Dimensional merge stuff]]</ref> In February 2021, Null asked Chris for permission to use his image in selling of coins for a Kiwi Farms merch run, also offering compensation for using his likeness,<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/post-8761272 (https://archive.fo/9C4Z1)</ref> which Chris agreed to and promoted the coins on his Twitter.<ref>https://twitter.com/Job4_2/status/1381713091092738052 (Archive https://archive.fo/9FDsh)</ref>

Null has stated that he has a plan for assisting Chris with housing for after his mother passes away.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-thoughts-questions.49854/post-9187706</ref>

At some point, Chris tried asking Null to kill someone.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-thoughts-questions.49854/post-9662488</ref>

In June 2021, Null announced that Chris will attend [[Everfree Northwest]], a ''[[My Little Pony]]'' convention to be held on 13 August 2021. He mentioned vetoing Chris's plan to drive there and recommended taking a flight, and said he will help Chris with financial arrangements.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-is-going-everfree-northwest.93521/ (https://archive.fo/iHdQU)</ref> On 9 July, Null created [[Help send Chris-Chan to Everfree NW|a GoFundMe campaign to raise money for the trip]]. The GoFundMe met its $1000 goal 6 hours after going live. Throughout the majority of [[July 2021]], Null would help Chris by continuing to organize and update the GoFundMe campaign.

===Null cuts ties===
{{See also|Affair with Mother}}
{{quote|I have to come to terms with the fact that Chris was fucking retarded, he's always been fucking retarded, and now on top of everything - on top of learning that he can't learn, I have to realize that he's malicious! He knows that doing these things are wrong and he doesn't care! Because if he gets away with it, that's all that matters.|Null, finally realizing the truth.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPjmy3K7uT8 Null's Last Interaction With Chris-Chan]</ref>}}
On 30 July 2021, after evidence surfaced of Chris committing [[Chris and sex#Incest|incest]] with Barb, Everfree Northwest banned Chris from their convention. Null then decided to refund the GoFundMe donors their money as the GoFundMe no longer served a legitimate purpose.<ref>[[Help send Chris-Chan to Everfree NW#Update 4]]</ref>

The following day on 31 July 2021, during the fallout from the aforementioned incest allegations against Chris, who was now legally barred from [[14 Branchland Court]] and from contacting his mother for a week by Emergency Protective Order, a conversation was held between Null and Chris. Null, who was allowed by Chris to help manage his email account, noticed an email notification from a bank showing a transfer of $750 from Barbara's bank account to Chris. When asked, Chris initially denied transferring any money, but later admitted to lying to Null about the funds after being confronted with proof.

Null then notified the police that Chris had taken money from Barbara in a potential violation of the EPO and then cut all ties with Chris, blocking him on [[Twitter]] and telegram.<ref>[[Incest fallout chat leaks#Chris takes money from Barb]]</ref>

==Post-breakup==

In [[September 2021|September]], Chris, from jail, directed [[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021|a letter to Null]] in which he expressed upset at Null for "betraying" him over revealing the theft and mentioned that he had taken the money because he had felt uncomfortable sleeping in his car in a parking lot. He compared Null's behavior to Judas's betrayal of Jesus in the [[Chris and religion|Bible]]. The money which Chris had stolen had gone to a motel room for himself.<ref>[[Jail Saga#Arrest]]</ref>

==Gallery==
<center><gallery>
File:CWC follows Kiwi Farms.png|Chris follows [[Kiwi Farms]].
File:Sonichu 12-9 Bonus Pull-Out Poster.jpg|Pony Null appears in a bonus page for [[Sonichu 12-9|''Sonichu'' #12-9]].
File:July9Artwork.jpg|Artwork Chris made for Null in order to promote the July 2021 GoFundMe campaign.
File:KiwiMacCard.png|Null's ponysona defending [[Nightstar]] on a [[TSSSF]] card.
File:Teammates2021Card.png|Another TSSSF card.
</gallery></center>

==See also==
*[[Kiwi Farms]]
*[[Guard Dogs]]
*[[Guard Dog chats]]
*[[Idea Guys]]

== Sources ==
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{{Articleofthenow}}
{{IdeaGuySaga}}
{{GuardDogSaga}}
{{IncestSaga}}
{{Trolls}}
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[[Category:Real people who have appeared in Sonichu comics]]

Love Quest

2022-03-20T21:33:57Z

Necromaster:

{{quote|I DO NOT KNOW WHY I would expect ANY woman to be Attracted to me, IN PUBLIC...|Chris, in a [[White knight e-mails#September 2008 — Chris denies being fat and sexist|sudden moment of clarity]].<ref>[[White_knight_E-mails#September 2008 — Chris denies being fat and sexist]]</ref>}}
{{quote|... except for the fact that I am Handsome|Well, so much for that.}}
[[Image:Chris-Chan Warrior of Love.jpg|thumb|How Chris views himself.]]
[[File:461-AutismFight.jpg|thumb|Chris must fight [[autism]] in order to enter the Valley of [[China]].]]
[[File:Tumblr lg8dq2DmiR1qbc13do1 500.jpg|thumb|Artist's impression of Chris on his Love Quest. [https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=144895676 Yes, the skin is downloadable.]]]
The '''Love Quest''' or '''Sweetheart Search'''<ref>[[Common Questions]]</ref><ref>[[Lori Lopez]]</ref><ref>[[Miyamoto emails]]</ref> was the longest real-life [[saga]] of [[Christian Weston Chandler]]. His goal was to obtain a [[sweetheart|girlfriend]]. The stated purpose of the Love Quest was to meet the woman who would be his true love, solve all his problems and bear his daughter, [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]]. The Love Quest represented a focused effort to do everything in his power to achieve romantic fulfilment, except of course improving himself.

While Chris maintained a belief in waiting for marriage to have sex due to [[Chris and religion|his religious principles]] (or at least waiting until fully committing to a romantic relationship [[Third date|after at least three dates]]), Chris started moving away from the idea of being faithful as he interacted with a number of fake sweethearts, down to wanting sex from [[Jackie]] first and foremost when he first starting communicating with her, and later being open to being in an open relationship where he could sleep with other people rather than a monogamous one. Because of this, Chris's antics are derisively referred to as the '''Fuck Quest'''.

For over a decade from [[2003]] to 2018, the Love Quest was ongoing, with Chris (unsurprisingly) not having made any progress whatsoever in finding a romantic partner. The nearest he had come to finding a happy ending on this front was through losing his virginity to [[Mia Hamm|a prostitute]], which happened out of Chris's fear that he could go to jail thanks to [[28 October 2011|the Michael Snyder incident]], which he ultimately got a slap on the wrist for instead of having to serve hard time. During early [[2018]], Chris was [[brainwashed]] by [[Idea Guys|devious trolls]] into ending his Love Quest – he was told that he was [[Polyamorous_marriage|happily married]] to several of his fictional OCs. Unfortunately, that was not the end of this story, as Chris went from [[Chris and reality|believing in this marriage]] to [[Affair with Mother|eventually having sex of very questionable consent with his own mom]]... Which ''will'' result in Chris serving hard time.

==Origins==
===Background===
[[Image:104-GirlfriendAttract.jpg|thumb|right|Spell cards don't work IRL, Chris.]]
The catalyst for the Love Quest was Christian's encounter with [[Sarah Nicole Hammer|Sarah Hammer]] (on whom he had a crush) during his move back to [[Ruckersville]], and his enrollment at the [[Piedmont Virginia Community College]]. This occurred somewhere between [[2000#June|June 2000]] and [[2003#October|October 2003]].

Sarah is presumably the first woman of any significance to tell the ever-[[naïve]] Christian "[[So Need a Cute Girl|I have a boyfriend]]"; Chris was surprised to learn that his childhood [[gal-pal]] was romantically involved with [[Wes Iseli]].<ref>[[Story of My Current Days]]</ref> Upon making this discovery, he quickly developed an intense jealousy of Iseli (who he didn't even know) and resentment towards him that would set his state of mind for the impending Quest.

Throughout [[2003]], Chris passively expressed his longing and envy by way of "[[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares]]" and "[[BFF's (Best Friends Forever)]]". It is clear that Chris had at some point decided Sarah was supposed to be his soulmate (although perhaps not until he learned she was unavailable) and had difficulty accepting that this would not be a possibility. In [[2005]], following Sarah's breakup with Iseli and hookup with [[William Spicer]], he dealt with the situation more openly and publicly in [[Sonichu 2|''Sonichu'' #2]] – this acceptance perhaps stemmed from his turn to a new object of infatuation (see the [[Love Quest#Megan Schroeder|"Megan" section below]]).

===Epiphany===
According to Chris, the genesis of the Love Quest proper was his twenty-first birthday, 24 February [[2003]].<ref>Chris misspoke the year as [[2002]] in [[Captain's Log, Stardate November 7th, 2007|this video]], but he has elsewhere consistently referenced his 21st birthday, which was in 2003.</ref> On this date, he was kicked out of his [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|college]] English class after a dispute with his teacher. (In his [[User:ChrisChanSonichu_profile#Start_of_my_Sweetheart_Search|Wikipedia biography]], Chris claimed the teacher ejected him simply on account of his [[autism]], which of course bears no resemblance to reality: when asked about it again later by a "girlfriend", he deigns to mention that it may have had something to do with belligerently slandering classmates and making racist remarks<ref>[[Jackie Chat 5]], starting at 7:45 PM</ref>). At any rate, while waiting for his next class, Chris sat and cried his eyes out, resenting that there was nobody to comfort him like there was at his [[Manchester High School#Graduation|graduation]]. Shortly thereafter, he resolved that he needed a girlfriend.<ref>[[User:ChrisChanSonichu profile#Start of my Sweetheart Search]]</ref>

Presumably the connection between these events is that Chris felt hurt and ostracized by his punishment, leading him to recognize his need for someone who would appreciate him unconditionally. However, Chris further states that the Love Quest ''officially'' began in [[2003#August|August 2003]],<ref>[[User:ChrisChanSonichu profile#Enter the Wicked Witch of the Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens]]</ref> suggesting that he waited six months to actually execute his plans.

===Salad days===
At some point early on in the Quest, Chris developed an intense, socially crippling [[Noviophobia|fear]] that all women (at least, all the women he likes) have boyfriends. Since his [[autism]] causes him to approach social tasks in the bluntest manner possible, it can be inferred that his initial approach was to walk up to women out of nowhere, and frankly ask if they would go out with him. It may be further inferred that Chris's unrelenting persistence made it extremely difficult for a woman he liked to get rid of him, short of claiming to have a boyfriend. In any case, Chris quickly lost nearly all of his confidence in talking to women and developed an irrational hatred of boyfriends, or "[[JERKS]]" (i.e., all men everywhere except himself and his [[Bob Chandler|father]]). Since this time, he has always specified that his potential girlfriend must be a [[boyfriend-free girl]], which is unnecessary outside of some kind of [[Polyamorous marriage|polygamous arrangement]].

==Conflict with Mary Lee Walsh==
[[Image:136-LoveSearchItems.jpg|thumb|Miscellaneous items used during the Love Quest, or as the Commonwealth of Virginia will eventually call it, Exhibit A.]]
[[Image:134-cwcsonstecrdgirlbck.jpg|thumb|Back of a ''Sonichu'' [[business card]].]]
{{main|Mary Lee Walsh}}

By [[October 2003]], Chris had put into practice what was "the only sensible idea [he] could come up with that was inexpensive": sitting on the [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]] campus holding a sign that read "I am a 21-Year Old Male, seeking an 18-21-Year Old Single Female Companion." This would be the first of many versions of the [[Attraction Sign]], a vital tool in the Love Quest for several years to come.

Sometime during October, the school's Dean of Student Services, [[Mary Lee Walsh]], confronted Chris and confiscated his sign. According to Chris's recollection of the event:

{{quote|Then in Mid-October, the Quote/Unquote "Dean of Student Services", Mary Lee Walsh, approached me and pulled my sign away from me and told me, "You're NOT ALLOWED TO FIND TRUE LOVE HERE." [[Heart level|MY HEART WAS SHATTERED]] that very moment.|CWC's [[User:ChrisChanSonichu profile#Enter the Wicked Witch of the Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|Wikipedia biography]], 3 May 2009}}

What is far more likely to have occurred is this: Walsh probably decided Chris was making a nuisance of himself and asked him what he thought he was doing; Chris probably delivered a big confusing monologue about seeking true love, and Walsh then likely dismissed the substance of Chris's response with "You can't do that here." Walsh's point of contention was undoubtedly just the sign, whatever Chris may have to say about it.

Undaunted by Walsh, Chris simply made a new sign, but a few weeks later Walsh confronted him again. In late [[January 2004]], Chris revised his strategy; leaving copies of the ''[[Sonichu's News Dash!]]'' newsletter strewn about campus, each one containing a single "personals ad" about himself. By [[February 2004|February]], Walsh had cracked down on Chris again, banning the distribution of the ''News Dash!''.<ref>[[CWC's Diary]], [[February 2004|February 9, 2004]]</ref> Owing to repeated violation of campus policy, Walsh took Chris to her office to discuss the problem with him. In Chris's own words:

{{quote|Then that B-Dog ripped up my notes and all, dragged me to her quarters and talked down to me very RUDELY AND HOARSELY. I reacted with my own attack that she had been asking for the whole time. I was kicked out of PVCC for a year, and I had to take an [[anger]] management course and see a [[Chris and psychology|psychiatrist]] for a while.|CWC's [[User:ChrisChanSonichu profile#Enter the Wicked Witch of the Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|Wikipedia biography]], 3 [[May 2009]]}}

The extent of the "attack" Chris made against Walsh, whether it was physical or just a [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]], is unknown, although it would have had to have been something pretty serious to get him suspended from PVCC ''and'' forced to undergo counseling. The timing of the incident is also unclear, but Chris has cited 16 [[September 2004]] as the date of his suspension.<ref>[[CWC's Diary]], September 16, 2004</ref>

==Conflicts with Jerkops==
By [[August 2004]], Chris had expanded his quest to other [[Attraction Location]]s besides PVCC, such as [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]]. It was here that he attempted a new tactic, inspired by ''[[Excel Saga]]'': laying a [[Red String of Fate]] across the mall floor. This inevitably led to a confrontation with mall security, making this Chris's first recorded encounter with the [[Jerkops]].<ref>[[CWC's Diary]], August 2004</ref>

By [[September 2004|September]], Chris had somehow learned that loitering in public places with a sign advertising his services as a boyfriend made it look like he was "trying to sell [him]self like a new car," but he still managed to miss the point and believe this was something he could work to his advantage. He continued to have confrontations with mall security until 11 September 2004, when he was arrested, handcuffed, and forbidden from entering the mall without one of his parents. With both of his Attraction Locations denied to him, Chris became more lonely and depressed than usual. In his diary he expressed an interest in asking "Santa Clause" for a girlfriend (according to e-mails leaked by [[Jackie]], Chris was completely serious and believed in Santa until he was ''24''<ref>[[CWC's Diary]], September 2004</ref>).

==Anna McLerran==
[[Image:0694-AnnaBD8.JPG|thumb|''Too bad she's a lesbian (note the demon behind Chris).'']]
{{main|The Tale Of The Crazy Pacer}}
At some point in 2004 Chris had expanded his activities in the mall, including:

* Pacing around a lot, playing videos on his Game Boy Advance SP.
* Shouting at walls, or "singing random songs from memory now and then".

He was apparently infamous to [[Anna McLerran]] and her friends by the time he finally worked up the nerve to enter the store where Anna worked to strike up a conversation with her. Anna handled herself as politely as she could while having zero interest in his pathetic romantic overtures, and apparently convinced him that she was off the market.

Despite becoming one of Chris's closest friends, Anna would later document the 2004 incident in a [[2006]] blog post, confirming that, despite whatever good qualities she sees in Chris, deep down she knows he's a few electric hedgehog Pokémon short of a [[Chaotic Combo]].

==Hanna==
On 29 [[March 2005]] Chris (who had somehow regained full access to the mall) momentarily believed his prayers had been answered when he was approached by [[Hanna]], a girl who worked at the local [[Wikipedia:Starbucks|Starbucks]]. She invited Chris to have coffee with her. Chris quickly overreacted to this sudden reversal of fortune, calling his mother and showing Hanna his entire [[Sonichu Scrapbook|''Sonichu'' scrapbook]].

[[Anna McLerran]] later informed Chris that Hanna was simply trolling him for the lulz. In shock, Chris confronted Hanna and, when she admitted the truth, he ran away screaming "NOOOOOOOOOO!". He apparently made enough of a scene to get himself [[banned]] from the mall (again). Subsequently, Chris dramatized the whole story in [[Sub-Episode 2|the comic]], where he was able to get the last word in exactly the way he could not in real life.

==Conflicts with [[Manajerks]]==
Around [[June 2005]], with the mall becoming a more difficult place to pick up chicks, Chris turned to his local [[Mal-Wart|Wal-Mart]], where he would go to the in-store [[McDonald's]], set up his sign and various nerd amusements, and wait around for hours. On 20 June 2005 Chris was confronted by the men he identified as [[B-Manajerk]] and [[Merried Seinor Comic]], who took issue with his sign and (probably in reaction to belligerent behavior) called the police on him. Chris hid the sign, effectively avoiding criminal charges for sexual solicitation, but he was banned from the McDonald's. He did not interpret this to mean he was banned from the Wal-Mart, however.

On 22 June, after the first incident, Chris again came into conflict with the B-Manajerk over his [[Pixelblock]] sculptures, and the conflict drew the attention of the [[W-M-Manajerk]]. The Manajerk apparently attempted to discuss the situation with Chris:

{{quote|But I sat silent for a minute, then I said to him, “I do not speek [''sic''] to [[JERKS|any Man other than myself]], because they all have [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend-Factor|taken all the pretty girls leaving me with none]].” Verbal Combat had started, and during the fight, I ran off, still giving verbal punishment, as well as da finger, and many “[[Curse-Ye-Ha-Me-Ha]]s.” I nearly backed up onto him with [[Son-Chu|my car]], and I gave him another finger. Then I dashed off.|[[CWC's Diary#June 2005|CWC's Diary]], 22 [[June 2005]]}}

In [[July 2005|July]], unsurprisingly having been banned from Wal-Mart, Chris relocated to the newly-opened [[Charlottesville]] [[Get-Tar Region|Target]], where he quickly found himself in trouble for loitering. Chris refused to leave at first, but when store employees returned with [[Jerkops|police officers]] (including [[Bagget]]), Chris offered to leave if they would listen to a prepared speech. According to Chris's account of the incident, five officers then jumped on him and [[Wikipedia:hogtie|hogtied]] him without provocation. His account is so blatantly fantastic and biased that it's difficult to draw any conclusions about what actually happened; for five police officers to have subdued him he must presumably have been egregiously stubborn in dealing with them.

Indeed, in the dramatization of these events in [[Sonichu 4|''Sonichu'' #4]], the jerkops need nothing short of a giant robot to capture Chris, and this time [[Sister|his twin sister]] rescues him so that they can destroy the jerkops' entire operation, which of course is commanded remotely by Mary Lee Walsh from [[PVCC]].

Chris has said that he was eventually cleared of all criminal charges related to the dispute at Target. It was apparently at this point that [[Barb|his mother]], in a dazzling display of parental guidance, informed him about two years too late that the Attraction Sign made him look [[Slow-in-the-minds|retarded]].

==Megan Schroeder==
[[Image:ChrisAndMeganUnpixelated.jpg|thumb|left|''Boyfriend-free no more!'']]
[[File:Rap.PNG|thumb|You gonna get raped.]]
Chris met [[Megan Schroeder]] in the summer of [[2005]] and was immediately attracted by such qualities as [[China|her gender]], [[Boyfriend-free girl|her lack of a boyfriend]] and her willingness to talk to him. In Chris's mind these key factors meant that Megan was already destined to be his [[sweetheart]], and the only thing left to do was convince Megan to accept this truth. The Love Quest was effectively on hold from this time until [[March 2008]]; all of Chris's writings during this time demonstrate that he believed he was already in a monogamous relationship with Megan and further Sweetheart Searching was unnecessary.

Aside from Megan's complete disinterest in romance with Chris, the relationship suffered other stumbling blocks, such as Megan's discomfort at Chris showering her with gifts; Megan's outrage over Chris's sexual harassment, hatred of men, and rampant homophobia; Megan's unwillingness to share a [[Megan_Emails,_Aug-Dec_2007#Megan_is_annoyed_and_creeped_out|hypothetical hotel room]] with Chris; and most damagingly Megan's discovery that Chris had to [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|draw himself fingerbanging her]] to suppress his fantasies of assaulting and raping her.<ref>[[Megan Emails, 2008#Chris does not regret the Meganporn and claims drawing it helped prevent him from doing "something really dumb and stupid"]]</ref> Even though she reacted as any normal human being would in the same situation, he was still shocked that she "broke up" with him and thought that all he had to do was say "I'm sorry" as much as possible.

Chris' obsession with [[Encyclopaedia Dramatica]] was what led to the end of the friendship, since his attempt to blow ED's mind by posting his [[Rule 34]] drawings caused her to discover what a deranged individual he truly was and break off all contact with him. Chris totally missed the point about the fingerbanging picture, believing that its continued presence on ED was the issue, and ludicrously that Megan didn't understand what was going on in it. This contributed to his drive to shut the site down for much of 2008 until people on the [[Internet]] figured out the simplest way to troll him...
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==Internet Love Quest==
[[File:Personalprofile.jpg|thumb|Chris's image from [[The Hook Cafe|''The HooK'' Café]] profile.]]

After becoming an infamous lolcow thanks to his edit war with ED, Chris began to receive unexpected attention from attractive single women who loved his comics and totally weren't just looking to troll him. Since then, Chris has taken his Love Quest onto the Internet, proclaiming that his TRUE and HONEST sweetheart is whichever girl he's managed to pin down. Chris, or someone impersonating Chris, has at one point attempted appealing to [http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080804202349AA80xDL Yahoo! Answers] on how a "lonesome fella" can attract a boyfriend-free girl, going as far as mentioning his previous tactics and even asking his answerer to be his sweetheart.

With each sweetheart he meets online Chris follows a predictable pattern, demonstrating what he had always intended to do with any woman he met in real life. He begins with a series of proclamations of his TRUE and HONEST love, and then begins planning out how the woman will travel to his home. Chris professes to believe in the rule that sex is out of the question until the [[third date]], but since he expects every romantic encounter to end in total success he makes it clear — in as gentlemanly a fashion as he can manage — that he expects sex at the woman's earliest convenience. Amazingly, as each successive Internet gal pal proves to be a [[troll]], Chris becomes more devoted to the next one, to the point that within a month of meeting Ivy online he began planning his marriage to a woman he had never even seen face-to-face.

When addressing the question of why Chris readily takes each new troll at face value, his own mindset must be taken into consideration. Chris's prospects of finding a girl locally are virtually zero, and he knows this (although he thinks it's because they all already have boyfriends). At the same time, the Internet seems (from his point of view) to be an endless cavalcade of single, attractive women who are fascinated with him, making it an irresistible resource in his Love Quest. By now Chris is fully aware that each woman he meets online ''could'' be a troll, but each time he readily accepts evidence that she is not and dismisses out of hand any suggestion that she is. He does this because he ''wants'' to believe she's real; the alternative is to surrender to despair.

==Returning to real life==
[[Image:WantWoman.jpg|thumb|''The [[Internet]] is so yesterday, Love Quest is always in.'']]
In Chris's final chat with [[Sarah May]] from early March 2009, he claimed that he planned to give up looking for a [[sweetheart]] online, and return to searching for a girl in local [[Charlottesville]]. [[Trolls]] everywhere rejoiced, for this could only mean one thing – a return to the fabled [[Attraction Sign]] and the days of his exploits against the [[Jerkops]] and his other IRL misadventures.

This effort only lasted so long, however. Chris's first attempt at a real-life date, with [[Emily]], ended in tragedy (for him) after the intervention of the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]]. During the brief [[Rollin' and Trollin']] era in the early summer of 2009, Chris was allegedly spotted prowling Charlottesville Fashion Square in his ''[[Guitar Hero]]: Metallica'' tattoo sleeves, but it wasn't long before he gave up (or was simply banned from the CFS) and retreated back to the Internet.

In late [[October 2009]], after a long hiatus, the [[sweetheart]] cycle began again, with the advent of the incredibly disturbing [[I Love You Kacey]]. Chris initially found success in his campaign to pry Kacey away from her current boyfriend, [[Liquid Chris]], even managing to meet her in person on multiple occasions. Later, though, the relationship collapsed under the weight of Chris's bizarre and disturbing behavior.

The opening months of [[2010]] saw Chris land himself in romantic misadventures both in reality and online. He managed to pry himself out of his room for a while and in the process meet a real person, [[The Wallflower]]. Like Megan, however, she rebuffed all his attempts at a more-than-friendly relationship, and eventually cut off all contact with him. Meanwhile, one of his [[The Hook Cafe|online personal ads]] led to an [[Jackie e-mails|extended conversation]] with another potential sweetheart, but Chris tripped over his duck long before he ever got a chance to meet "Jackie" in real life.

Despite this, Chris believed he had found another way to attract females, this time via the [[Flipnote Hatena]], which is (despite being accessed on a DSi) still on the internet. Between 17 June and 2 July 2010, Chris ignored Flipnote Hatena's "family friendly" policies and attempted to use it like a dating site. A lot of Chris's tags towards the female members were flirtatious to a point, and he even [[For Women ONLY|made a Flipnote]] calling out to every woman he had tagged or tagged him. However, despite the trolls swarming in to attack, non-troll responses were made by girls he tagged, [[pedofork|most of whom were in their tweens to early teens]].

==2014–2017==
Chris made numerous [[OKCupid]] profiles, and has successfully attracted a sweetheart though it – [[Catherine]]. Once her gig was up, Chris began to plumb the depths of derangement with [[Women Only Need Apply - No STD's|videos]] advertising himself to women of "any orientation", since as a [[Transgender|transwoman]], [[Chris and reality|Chris believes he now physically appeals to straight, bisexual, and lesbian women all at once]].

In [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], Chris revealed images of his imaginary future wife, [[Lovely Weather]]. In September 2017, he [[September 2017 Facebook posts#Jessica Quinn = Lovely Weather|remarked]] that he had fulfilled his comic's prediction, following his entering into a relationship with his newest sweetheart, [[Jessica Quinn]]. However, this was not meant to be, as she broke up with him early in October 2017. He posted on Facebook a few weeks later saying that he did not need a significant other to define himself, hinting that he may have given up on his Love Quest, but only time will tell.

In January 2018, prompted by the ''CWCSonichu Prequel'' fancomic, Chris gave his thoughts on the Love Quest:<ref>[[January 2018 tweets#Thoughts on the CWC Prequel comic]]</ref>

{{quote|I really worked too hard on something I should not have pushed too much on, the “Love Quest”... I Really should have focused more on Sonichu, his life and all of that. Instead, I did too much with myself.

I was more selfish back then. I really regret that I was. It has done a lot of damage to everyone around me.}}

==The Idea Guys and the end of Chris's Love Quest==
{{main|Idea Guys}}

During the Idea Guys saga, Chris's belief in multiple dimensions was exploited and his sense of reality hijacked to make changes to many of Chris's characters, concepts and perspectives of the real world, with him considering them to be valid. Ideas involving the Love Quest include:

*Chris being brainwashed into thinking of himself as bisexual.
*Chris believing he's in a [[polyamorous marriage]] with his imaginary friends.

Beginning in [[March 2018]], Chris's already weak grasp on [[Chris and reality|reality]] having been eroded further under the [[Idea Guys]]'s influence, he believed himself to be in a polyamorous marriage with [[Mewtwo]] and three of his own fictional characters.

By [[April 2018]], the Idea Guys had manipulated Chris into believing that he was bisexual. In April, Chris recorded [[Dick Licker; that is I]], a video of him giving his imaginary husband Magi-Chan a blowjob. Two weeks later, Chris flirted with [[Bryanfrogboy]] over the internet. He also began to kiss men on the cheek in public – fan [[Copitz]] in May and several attendees at the [[TooManyGames]] convention in June (leading him to be kicked out).

[[File:Wizkerzz.png|thumb|150px|Wizkerzz describes how Chris immediately declared he wasn't interested in dating her.]]

Chris belief in the polyamorous marriage was so strong that he told Wizkerzz – a female fan cosplaying as him – that he wasn't interested in dating her, and in [[July 2018]], he also rebuffed a [[ween|professed]] potential sweetheart: [[Miss Cherry]]. Showing no further interest in finding real-world [[china]] for himself, the Love Quest has come, if not to an underwhelming yet bizarre conclusion, at least to a long interlude not quite like anything before it in Christory. It seems that, in a sense, the real Love Quest was the friends that Chris made along the way – [[Imaginary friends|quite literally]].

That being said, even in this state, Chris occasionally indicated his disappointment in not finding a romantic partner that actually exists. [[February 2021 social media posts#Message to the faker and hater trolls|In one such post]], he once again blames the trolls for his inability to find a woman instead of making an effort to reach out to someone offline that doesn't involve waving a sign around or loitering on private property. With that post, Chris projected that he had a good Valentine's Day and that all the trolls were miserable when in actuality he spent it holed up in his house with his mother and pets, probably still depressed about his lot in life.

Additionally, while speaking with [[KwaiiSandbag calls|KwaiiSandbag]], Chris indicated that he was still lonely, and had considered one of the members of [[Praetor]] for a potential relationship, but put it off under the belief that Magi-chan would soon cross into [[Dimensions#1218|1218]]. It remains to be seen whether Chris will consider revamping his Love Quest again, or if he will continue to hold out for Magi-chan.

==The Final End of the Love Quest==
The true end of this saga was made clear near the end of June, the boyfriend-free girl he had searched for all these years [[Barb|had been hiding under his nose, and a pile of garbage this whole time]]. Unfortunately, this end is not what we all pictured, and the falling actions of this story likely involve him reliving the hour of [[Julie Reveals Herself]] day after day in prison, because we, the people of [[1218]], would never let them [[Chris and sex#Incest|be together]].

==Promotional images==
Throughout the Love Quest, Chris produced some "sexy" pictures to attract the ladies. Any success they may have had is not evident.

<center>
<gallery>
Image:0773-CWC23.JPG|You'll never guess what I just swallowed.
Image:0775-CWCCDPose.JPG|[[Sonic the Hedgehog|Way past cool!]]
Image:0776-CWCGuitar.JPG|Shredding some hot licks on my [[Gitar of Fail|gitar]]!!
Image:0777-CWConbed.JPG|10/10 Would bang.
Image:0778-CWCPin.JPG|Staring at the [[Sailor Moon Poster of Fail|Sailor Moon poster]] while tanning.
Image:0779-CWCREAR.JPG|Baby got back!
Image:0780-CWCrelax.JPG|Are you craving my delicious inner thighs?
Image:0781-CWCspdbed.JPG|I've been waiting for you...
</gallery>
</center>

==Fan videos==
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = LOVEQUEST
| ytid = MC-4GDBDa8A
| stardate = 20 [[May 2012]]
| maker = Spelling Bee
| type = }}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = LOVEQUEST 2
| video = {{#ev:youtube|NWA8iH_emEk}}
| stardate = 18 [[August 2015]]
| maker = Spelling Bee
| type = }}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = Santa's Love Quest: A Chris Chan Musical Adventure !
| ytid = 3uTYy9iLoaw
| stardate = 23 [[December 2021]]
| maker = SheWIND
| subject = [[Christmas]], Love Quest
| type =
| info =
}}

==See also==
*[[Attraction images]]
*[[Chris and sex]]
*[[Hard Love Quest]]
*[[Sweetheart]]
*[[Story of My Current Days]]

== Sources ==
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Wes Iseli

2022-02-24T18:15:28Z

Necromaster: I just switched a couple words around

{{quote|Wes is a magician and regretfully, [[Sarah Nicole Hammer|Sarah's]] boyfriend. Because of this, Christian is very jealous and dislikes him much.|[[:Image:291-ACWesBck.jpg|Wes Iseli ''Animal Crossing'' card]]}}

[[Image:WesIseli2.jpg|thumb|Wes Iseli: party magician, charity worker, married man, and evil hedgehog.]]

'''Wes Iseli''' (pronounced [wɛs ˈaɪzli], "wess EYES-lee;"<ref>[[Mumble 4]], around 22 minutes in</ref> born 10 November 1977) [[Emily|briefly dated]] [[Sarah Nicole Hammer|Sarah Hammer]], Chris's long-time [[gal pal|gal-pal]]. Wes is a magician in real life (available for birthdays, weddings, bar mitzvahs and funerals) and is currently married to another woman. He is also a [[Thinking with Portals#Merlin's Deal with Chris|descendent of the dark wizard.]]

Although [[trolls]] have been trying to contact Wes ever since they found his various online accounts, he hasn't offered any official statements on [[Chris]] or his involvement in [[Sonichu (comic)|the Sonichu comics]]. Apparently, he doesn't feel the need to talk shit about some guy he barely knew just because he was jealous of Wes's relationship with an ex-girlfriend of his.

== In real life ==
Wes Iseli was known to have dated Sarah Hammer at some point during Chris's [[Manchester High School|High School]] years. Chris claims to have originally been provoked into his [[Love Quest]] after becoming [[Chris and anger|enraged]] at seeing Sarah sitting on Wes's lap. Much like with [[Mary Lee Walsh]], this lead to a one sided blood feud with him, and he began to see Wes as a romantic rival and an enemy, even though Sarah saw Chris as nothing more than a friend and Wes himself probably barely even knew Chris as anything other than "that autistic kid Sarah hangs out with".

The trio of [[Sonichu]], [[Rosechu]] and [[Black Sonichu]] in Chris's early ideas before the comic started, existed to represent the "hero, lover and rival" triangle that Chris believed himself, Sarah and Wes to fulfill as well, with Chris [[Ego|obviously]] cast as the hero, and Wes as the villain. This is evident in the [[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares]] story, in which he represented himself and Sarah as Sonichu and Rosechu, and when Wes was brought up in passing, Chris included a drawing of Blake holding a magic wand and magician's hat, complete with helpful annotation pointing out that he was evil. Chris would later come up with unique Sonichu forms for himself, Wes and Sarah instead of using Sonichu, Rosechu and Blake as stand-ins, and these new Sonichu forms would go on to be featured in the [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'' comics]].

Chris also included avatars of Wes in his homemade ''[[Animal Crossing]]'' and ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' cards, for both his human form and his Sonichu form in each, (though in the ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' cards the human Wes Iseli was just named as "A [[Jerk]]").

Wes (under comic alias Walter Grisby) was mentioned in the infamous [[Chris Loses It]] video. In that video, Chris, after performing a spectacular act of [[tard rage]], pretends to call Walter Grisby, asking him "Who threw the frisbee?", before yelling at the telephone and [[:Category:Videos with Camera Abuse|throwing it]] at the [[PSEye]].

Wes made an appearance on the TV series ''[[wikipedia:Penn & Teller: Fool Us|Penn & Teller: Fool Us]]'' and successfully fooled them, on a season 7 episode aired on 6 [[July 2020]].

== In the comic ==
[[File:Wls.PNG|thumb|Wes-Li is pissed.]]

As the author of the comic, when Chris first made [[Sonichu 2|Sonichu #2]] he was given the unique opportunity to [[Chris and reality|revise his personal history with Wes]] at his leisure. Comic Wes differs from his real life counterpart in that whilst the real Wes Iseli broke up with Sarah, moved on, married another woman, probably forgot Chris ever existed and is now [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcybvGOvmrY running a charity which helps fight Parkinson's Disease], Comic Wes appears to have [[Chris and his Ego|held a grudge against Chris]] ever since he first met him while he was dating Sarah, in spite of Chris having nothing he wanted and Wes having no reason to care about Chris. Dialogue also indicates that he was still dating Sarah by the time the trio first gained their powers, as Sarah "breaks up" with him halfway through Episode 8.

=== Wesley Iseli/Walter Grisby ===
Wes Iseli (later [[Retroactive continuity in Sonichu|retconned]] as "'''Walter Grisby'''") was one of the chosen three of the [[Anchuent Prophecy]], alongside [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Christian Weston Chandler]] and [[Sarah Nicole Hammer]]. Wes learned that he was the descendant of the [[Wasabi Clan]], and upon gaining his powers his own ancestor implored him to take vengeance upon the [[Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan]], who was now Chris. Wes, knowing of Chris's jealousy towards him, accepts.

He later finds both Chris and [[Sonichu]] out on the "rough terrain" just outside [[CWCville]], and the two fight, not only over their current feud, but also over the Cherokee/Wasabi war in the ancient past, over the [[Cherokian Crown]]. Wes grabs the crown out of thin air during the fight (implying he stole it from Chris, which was [[Chris and Writing|never depicted]]) and eventually the fight ends when Sarah appears and pins Wes against a tree with a lightning arrow, just as he was about to defeat Chris. Sarah breaks up with him, he whines a bit, [[Chris and hypocrisy|Chris tells him to suck it up and move on]], and he then unites with Chris and Sarah to defeat the [[Wikipedia:Golem|golem]] summoned by [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and [[Count Graduon]].

[[Image:Sonichu05-P12.jpg|thumb|Wes-Li Sonichu apparently [[Chris and art|grows to about 20 feet tall]], does an [[Wikipedia:Edward G. Robinson|Edward G. Robinson]] impression, and kidnaps [[Sarah Hammer]] in [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu'' #5]]]]

In [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu #5'']] he appeared again to use his magical powers to kidnap Sarah at her wedding to [[William Spicer]]. Despite ostensibly not wanting to be kidnapped, Sarah neglects to employ any of her Anchuent powers, and thus Chris must take him down. This being the early days of the [[Megan]] Saga, Chris drew heavily from anime themes in this issue, so Chris and Wes did battle via [[Yu-Gi-Oh!|children's card games]] rather than an actual fight. Chris loses (again), proving for a second time that Wes was a superior fighter to him, but he and Sarah are saved by [[Sailor Megtune]] and [[Megagi La Skunk]], and the wedding continues without issue.

Iseli was briefly seen in [[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu #7'']], attending the conference of villains following Christian's disappearance into the [[Time Void]]. Given that the conference was run by Mary and Count Graduon, the evil that Wes was destined to defeat alongside Chris and Sarah, the prophecy seems to have gone horribly wrong. Chris, naturally, does not address this.

Wes was last seen in the comic in [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu #9'']], appearing on a grand total of two pages. First early in the issue, where he was seen scouting around the city in preparation for the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|PVCC]] attack, assisted by [[Reldnahc Ha-Taque]] and [[Silvana]], and later on again, when he calls Mary and tells her that a magic dome was protecting the [[CWCville Shopping Center]] from attack, and that they needed Mary to come down there personally to get through. He is never seen fighting in this issue, and it is to date his final appearance.

Still to this day, Wes's final fate remains unknown. Whether he was counted among the brainwashing victims freed by Chris or not has never been stated, and depending on whether or not Wes was acting of his own free will in helping Mary and the PVCC, he may or may not be the last surviving villain other than [[Clawdorf]] and [[Metal Sonichu]] after the [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu #10'']] purge.

===Wes-Li Sonichu===
[[Image:FlameSnipers.jpg|thumb|Wes-li's Flame Sniper (left) compared to Sailor Mars' Flame Sniper (right).]]

Wes-Li Sonichu (pronounced [wɛzlaɪ], "Wez-lie", according to Chris's [[videobooks]], and as "Wesley" according to the [[Audiobooks]]) is the [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] form of Wes Iseli when he is transformed by the Fireshock Pendant empowered by the [[Anchuent Prophecy]]. Although the prophecy foretold that Wes-Li, [[Chris-Chan Sonichu|Chris-Chan]], and [[Saramah Rosechu|Saramah]] would work together to defeat [[Count Graduon]], Wes's spitefulness toward Chris and his bitterness at having been rejected by [[Sarah Hammer]] would lead him to use his powers for evil.

Prior to the retcon, Wes-Li was a passable pun. With the name change, it makes absolutely no sense that a person named "Walter Grisby" would have an alter ego that does not resemble his name in any way - unless one knows the background of this character. Renaming him something like "Wal-By Sonichu" was something Chris did not bother with.

Curiously, Wes-Li is one of the more detailed Sonichus that Chris has made, which is saying something given the [[Chris and art#Tracing|cookie-cutter]] nature of most of the other characters Chris has designed.

As he is not featured much, Wes-Li Sonichu is not seen to possess anything like the absurdly vast array of powers that Chris-Chan Sonichu does. He is however, seen using the Pokémon moves Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Mega Kick and Sky Uppercut, as well as a move known as the Flame Sniper, in which he uses a bow and arrow made of fire to shoot at a target. The name and attack itself are another rip-off from [[Sailor Moon]]. With help from Chris-Chan and Saramah, Wes-Li can also use the "Team Blast: Blue Fireball Attack", but being the stupid Deus Ex Machina finishing move it is, the attack is used only once to destroy Graduon's golem and is never used again. It is also ripped off from ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog|Sonic Heroes]]''.

=== Wasabi Rival ===
[[File:Wasabi rival.jpg|100px|thumb|left|The Wasabi Rival or the Pope? YOU DECIDE!]]

The Wasabi Rival was the ancient alter ego of Wes Iseli in the ''Sonichu'' comics. According to ''[[Sonichu 2]]'', the [[Wasabi Clan]] were contemporaries of the Ancient Cherokee. One of the Wasabi, presumably a leader figure of some sort, somehow determined that stealing the [[Cherokian Crown]] from his [[Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan|rival]] would allow him and his tribe to rule the world. This led to a bitter rivalry between the ambitious Wasabi man and the Cherokian Leader. Despite their differences, the Cherokian Leader and his Wasabi Rival were eventually able to forge a temporary alliance against the greater menace of [[Count Graduon]]. Together, the Wasabi and Cherokee defeated Graduon, imprisoning him within a magic scepter for centuries.

Years later, when the [[Anchuent Prophecy]] was at last fulfilled, the Wasabi Rival appeared in a vision to his reincarnation, Wes Iseli, in order to instruct him in use of the Fireshock Pendant. Exactly how and why the Wasabi Rival is able to communicate with Wes like this is not explained. He teaches Wes how to use all his powers and sends him off to his first battle.

Notably, even though the entire reason Wes had the powers at all was because Count Graduon had come back and needed to be stopped again, something the Wasabi Rival should have known was the priority at that moment, he still told Wes to go after Chris and steal the [[Cherokian Crown]] anyway. Either that crown is ''really, really important'', or the Wasabi Rival just enjoys being a douche from beyond the grave.
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==Gallery==
<center><gallery>
Image:290-ACWes.jpg|Human Wes. Note that everything is on fire behind him.
Image:291-ACWesBck.jpg|Page quote is from this card.
File:Wes.PNG|Another drawing of Wes that, of course, [[Chris and art|doesn't look anything like the first one]]. Note the Fireshock Pendant and rabbit in a hat.
Image:295-WesLi.jpg|Flame on, bitch!
Image:140-AJerk.jpg|Chris, ripping himself off.
Image:296-FireshockPendant.jpg|Fireshock Pendant
Image:294-YuWesLi.jpg|It's just not as impressive without the flame background.
Image:292-ACWesLi.jpg|And even less so with the ''Animal Crossing'' logo.
File:127-LevelBattle.jpg|[[Chris-Chan Sonichu]] takes on a villain.
Image:293-ACWesLiBck.jpg|Notice how the human Wes has no star sign, but Wes-Li does.
File:Wes_li_xbox.jpg|Wes Li plays [[HEXbox]], further cementing his villainous status.
</gallery></center>

== Sources ==
<references/>

==External links==
* [http://partymagic.50megs.com/ Old magic site]
* [http://wesiseli.com/ New magic site]
* [http://www.youtube.com/wesleyiseli YouTube account]
* [http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1205570207 Facebook]

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Imaginary family

2022-01-22T12:44:20Z

Necromaster: Added a section on Chris's parenting abilities, I'll add some more links in a bit.

{{Incomplete}}

Chris Chan has numerous family members that exist only in C-197, while Chris has put some real life counterparts into his imaginary world, this article covers those who have been made up entirely by Chris. This page will not cover Sonichu or the Chaotic combo since they already have their own pages and while Sonichu does refer to Chris as "father", this is more along the lines of Chris being his [[Messiah complex| benevolent creator]] rather than an actual family.

Like most if not all of Chris's original characters; pretty much all of them exist purely to worship him or to give him extra powers in the comic.

==Cherokee Clan leader==
{{Main|Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan}}

==Crystal Weston Chandler (twin)==

{| class="infobox" style="width: 21em; font-size: 90%;"
|-
! colspan="2" | ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' character
|-
| colspan="2" | [[File:Crystal.jpg|200px]]
|-
! colspan="2" |Crystal Weston Chandler
|-
| '''Date of creation'''
| 22 June [[Sonichu chronology#2005|2005]]
|-
| '''Gender'''
| Female
|-
| '''Species'''
| Human
|-
| '''Transforms into'''
| Crystalina Rosechu
|-
|}

[[Image:153-GirlfriendsGift.jpg|thumb|left|Notice how the "girlfriend" in this pic looks like a crude version of Crystal, even down to the shirt. Freud would have a fucking field day with Chris.]]

'''Crystal Weston Chandler''' is the fictional twin sister of [[Christian Weston Chandler]]. Her role in his fantasy world stems from his long-held desire to have a sibling to play with<ref>Mentioned in his [[Song of Christian]] video: "hoping" for a "lil brother."</ref> along with some narcissistic pleasure and [[Tomgirl Pictures|gender identity issues]] with seeing himself as an [[Homos#Chris and transsexuality|attractive female]]. Crystal represents one of the more embarrassing facets of Chris's mind. Since his notions of the perfect girlfriend, the perfect sister, the perfect daughter, and the perfect female self so easily intersect, it is hard ''not'' to arrive at a conclusion involving [[Chris and sex#Incest|incest]].

He appears to have first created the character in 2004 as "Crystal the Female Twin" for his set of custom ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' cards, although another of those cards depicts Crystal as "Girlfriend's Gift". In fiction, Crystal wears a [[Rosechu]] [[medallion]] correlating to Chris's [[Sonichu]] medallion and [[Reldnahc]]'s [[Black Sonichu]] medallion; this is inconsistent (or is it?) with Chris's usual theme of Sonichu, Rosechu, and Blake representing the hero, lover, and villain. In real life, Chris created the Rosechu medallion for his future girlfriend, which raises the question of how he expected to adapt this into the comics when his sister was running around wearing the same bauble as his fiancée.

Crystal's origin is depicted in [[Sub-Episode 5]], where she is made manifest by Chris employing his [[anchuent powers]] and [[Heart Torch of Fail]] to split into two ([[pickle|nearly]]) identical beings. Chris and Crystal wear the same [[Chris and fashion|outfits]] and even have the same super powers, although she lacks her brother's [[heterochromia]]. Throughout her appearances in the comics, characters are constantly noting how attractive she (and, by extension, Chris) is.

In [[2007]], Chris attempted to shock [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] into submission by posting his own [[Rule 34]] drawings, including one of himself [[Shecameforcwc.jpg|fingerbanging a nude brunette woman]]. ED users immediately concluded this was Crystal, a charge which infuriated Chris and therefore became the conventional wisdom. By the time Chris successfully convinced anyone that it was really [[Megan Schroeder]] in the drawing, the notion that Chris wants to bang his imaginary twin sister had already stuck--and, as this article demonstrates, would've arisen anyway. Nonetheless, Megan stopped being friends with him because of the whole business, so Chris lost on both counts.

The theme of incestuous narcissism is also prevalent in literature of the Romantic period, particularly that of Lord Byron, who apparently acted on Chris's fantasy. The theory is that the man in question is so much [[Chris and his ego|in love with himself]] that the only other person he could ever truly love is his double. Furthermore, with the Romantic emphasis on sympathy through [[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares|shared experience]], great nostalgia for [[Chris's room|childhood]], and desire to be "[[Love Quest|understood]]" (though complete disinterest in [[Vivian_Gee_E-mails|understanding]]) make a sibling an ideal sexual partner for the narcissist. Most of the Romantics saw the problem with this, and contented themselves with [[Sarah Hammer|childhood friends]], but then, Chris was never as smart as Wordsworth.

A possible early appearance is in the [[Mario Kart 64 Lego Raceway|''Mario Kart 64'' Lego Raceway]] ([[1998]]) where Christian's kart passes something labelled "'''CRYSTLE'''" (the video quality is too low to see anything) and Chris shouts "Hi!" at it/her.
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===In the comic===
[[File:Crys.PNG|thumb|left|Note the careful attention he paid to drawing his sister's boobs.]]
[[Image:Crystalina_Rosechu.jpg|thumb|Crystal's anthropomorphic form, Crystalina Rosechu. Also the only Sailor Soldier to wear sneakers.]]

Crystal was first introduced in [[Sonichu 3|''Sonichu'' #3]], [[Sub-Episode 4]], where she appeared to aid Chris during a battle with the [[W-M-Manajerk]] in the [[Mal-Wart]] Region. Beaten and nearly subdued, Chris had a vision of his Cherokian ancestor. He revealed to Chris that his [[Heart Torch of Fail|Heart Torch]] is able to summon his "dream sibling". Crystal has also helped Chris battle [[Bagget]] and the [[Transformers|Change-Bot]] Crackder in the [[Get-Tar Region]], as well as [[Mary Lee Walsh]] at the [[PVCC]].

Crystal was trapped in the [[Dark Mirror Hole]] by Mary Lee Walsh and [[Count Graduon]] in [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu'' #5]]. In an attempt to save Chris and [[Sailor Megtune]] from falling victim to the Mirror, she pushed them both out of the way, becoming captive in the Mirror herself. After her capture, a few token mentions have been made of her plight - at one point, it was said that gathering the seven [[Sonichu Balls]] would allow Crystal to escape the mirror - but for the most part she was largely forgotten, especially while Christian himself was stuck in the practically identical [[Time Void]].

Since Chris had been keen on ejecting everyone he created from his [[sweetheart search]] misadventures, the final fate of Crystal Weston Chandler seemed quite grim. Then, partway through [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], Chris suddenly turned into [[Collosal Chan]] and rescued her by simply [[Sonichu Special 4|walking in]], [[I AM STRONG|scooping her up]] in his arms and walking out of the mirror in the most [[Chris and writing|anti-climactic way]]. Chris originally planned that he would hand over mayoral power to his sister at the end of this issue, but for [[Chris and his Ego|some reason]] decided not to.<ref>[[Miyamoto Saga#From Chris to Miyamoto]]</ref>

Being Chris's twin, Crystal's powers are very similar to his. She can transform into a Rosechu called Crystalina Rosechu. When she and [[Chris-chan Sonichu]] join together, they are able to form Chris-Chan Pure and execute a powerful ultimate attack known as [[Chrs-Chan Pure Pulse-Jolt Lance]].

Her "personality" is identical to every single non-evil female character in the franchise: she does nothing except stereotypically girly activities (shopping,<s>getting high from </s> sampling perfumes, chatting about boys, etc) and [[Women's Rights|she defers to men in all things]]. Her fashion sense is similar to her twin brother; she wears the same clown shirts and has a Rosechu medallion. Crystal has an odd quirk where she constantly refers to Chris by his original name, "Christopher," instead of "Christian", the reasoning for which probably exists in Chris' head but has never been elucidated.

In a Twitter post, Chris, while [[Spirit possession|LARPing]] as Sonichu, presented Crystal's origin story. According to Chris, Crystal originated from another dimension where she took over [[CWCville|the helm]] after her dimension's Chris presumably dies. During a battle with her dimension's [[Mary Lee Walsh]], Crystal was sent through a portal into [[Dimensions#C-197|C-197]] after Chris used the [[Heart Torch of Fail]] to summon her. Chris stated that Crystal decided to remain in C-197 after realizing that Chris was the TRUE and HONEST Chris.<ref>[[October 2020 social media posts#What happened to Crystal and more Helena]]</ref>

As another display of Chris's failures in his Love Quest, she also appears to be one of the very few female characters in ''Sonichu'' who was never paired off with anyone.
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===Gallery===
<center><gallery>
Image:152-YuCrystal.jpg
Image:CrystalSquirtle.png|Crystal joins the [[Moon-Pals]].
File:Collosalcrystalina.png|Crystal+Sonichu balls or something.
File:Crystal 001.jpg|Chris's most prominent thoughts on this matter.
Image:CrystalHawt.jpg|Artist's depiction.
</gallery></center>

==Sonichus and Rosechus==
{{see also|Robee Sonichu|Cera Rosechu}}

===Sonichu===

===Russel and Cynthia===

{{quote|Back in human form, she extracted some of her essence. Then in (female) Sonichu form, she shot her essence up herself ... After that, when she tried to transform back to human, she could not. She was stuck in her Chris Chan Sonichu form. Then between Magi-Chan and the examinations at the hospital, she was knocked up for sure.|Chris, on the [[May_2015_Facebook_posts#Meet_Russel_and_Cynthia|beautiful act of conception.]]}} [[Image:Cynthia_and_Russel.jpg|thumb|The twins, ravenous for affection.]]

'''Russel Sonee''' and '''Cynthia Rosey''' are Chris's fictional Sonee and Rosey children. After Chris's [[Chris-chan Sonichu|Sonichu form]] became female to correspond with his [[Tomgirl Saga|newfound female identity]], he got the notion to use his own semen to impregnate himself, thus conceiving Russel and Cynthia. Miraculously, neither of the twins emerged as hideous mutants, and Chris proudly insists that they're completely [[autism]]-free.

This little experiment behind him, Chris shoved them off on [[Heather Iglesias]], claiming to visit them every now and again. They are first seen in [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]], attending the [[CWCville]] pride festival with their lesbian nanny. On catching sight of Chris, they immediately run up and cling to him, telling him they miss him. Chris gives them a dismissive "awww!" before coldly allowing Heather to take them away.

Chris described the conception again in 2020: ''"She did the thing from between her ol’ [[Duck|cock]] and moving the spunk into her [[Un-clit|vag]], and had to stay stuck in Sonichu form until Russel and Cynthia were born for a few weeks. After that, she went back to her human form, and she had to go through the similar quick process that Roberta went through, but the Estrogen was coming in quicker with C-Chan, since her alt-form was now female."''<ref>[[April 2020 social media posts]]</ref>

==Reginald Chandler==
{{Quote|Alternatively, if I have a boy as well, I would name him Reginald; that was not a [[dream]]-thing though. I've had a [[PandaHalo|past internet gal-pal]], who would have likely become my girlfriend after she got here from her native land of Australia after finishing College there with a Teacher Degree. We role-played a family day with the children, and she chose the name of Reginald for the boy-child.|Chris<ref>[[Regina e-mails]]</ref>}}
[[File:FatherandSon.png|thumb|right|Chris and Baby Reginald Chandler (Reginald is the stupid little blue stud) from [[PlayingHouse]]]]

'''Reginald Chandler''' is [[Chris]]'s imaginary son and brother to his fictitious daughter [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]]. He pees on the ceiling.<ref>[[IRC (21 January 2009)]]</ref> He is briefly mentioned in chats with [[PandaHalo|Panda]].

His origins seemingly begin with [[PandaHalo]] and her discussions with Chris about the married life they will have in the future (as for Chris, [[Chris and reality|a single date will inevitably lead to a long and happy marriage]]).

Although Reginald has been mentioned several times in conversation, he is nothing in comparison to his younger sister in Chris's eyes. Reginald has no persona in the comics (except possibly as [[Reginald Sneasel]]) and has never appeared to Chris in a dream. Since the untimely death of PandaHalo, Reginald has not been mentioned outside of direct questioning and a recent video, although it is likely that Chris would still name his hypothetical first-born son Reginald all the same.

Reginald was featured in the [[PlayingHouse]] video, where Chris pretends [[Jackie]] is the mother of his children. This time he was depicted as the younger brother to Crystal. While Crystal can write in a diary despite being in preschool, Reginald was mitigated to speaking only in baby babble. The only interaction Chris has with him is complaining about cleaning up the mess he made in the bathroom, [[Butt garments|changing his diaper]], mentioning that he threw up several times during dinner (never stopping to wipe him off), and demanding he stay quiet for the night so he can [[Hanky panky|fuck]] his wife in peace. It's interesting to note that Chris mentions that Reginald sits in a booster seat, not a high chair. While it's likely Chris doesn't know the difference, it also implies Reginald is big enough to be a toddler. Being a toddler who can only speak in gibberish suggests he inherited [[Autism|a]] [[Speech impediment|lot]] from his father.

In [[April 2019]], [[Future message from Crystal W Chandler]] was uploaded to [[YouTube]], purporting to depict a visit from a time-traveling Reginald.

==Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)==

{{Wise|by drawing himself buttfucking [[Sonichu]], then Sonichu will become pregnant with Crystal at some point.}}

{{quote|As for where I see myself, I am uncertain career-wise, but [[Dreams|I HAVE A DREAM]]! And that dream is to find the woman to make my Sweetheart from honest, true friendship, make her my wife, and from us, have a daughter named Crystal Weston Chandler. I've had a number of dreams where I take care of and tend to the needs of my baby, Crystal. And from all those dreams, I knew they were God's wishes for my future.|Chris, presuming to know the wishes of GodBear<ref>[[Regina e-mails]]</ref>}}

[[Image:09-Crystal_Card.jpg|thumb|Crystal as a [[My Little Pony]] character]]

Around the age of [[2003|21]], [[Chris]] had multiple [[dreams]] in which [[GodJesus|God and Jesus]] told him to find a [[sweetheart]] to build [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up|from the ground-up]] to have his '''daughter Crystal''', named "after the [[Honor roll|illustrious metal]]",<ref>[[Chris Chan's Public Announcement]]</ref> according to him. In a custom ''[[My Little Pony]]'' trading card, Chris depicts Crystal as a pony who traveled back in time to help her father – Chris – find a [[boyfriend-free girl]]. This is [[Things Chris has ripped off|completely ripped off]] from Chibiusa's entire premise in ''[[Sailor Moon]]''.

===Crystal and the Love Quest===
[[Image:CrystalWestonChandler.jpg|thumb|left|Artist's impression. This is probably also Chris's impression. It is also the impression that no one ever wants to see become a reality.]]

Finding a woman who would birth Crystal has been a fairly consistent justification for Chris's [[Love Quest]]. At times he has seemed to be more [[Honest Content|honest]] in wanting a girlfriend so he can [[Chris and sex|get laid]] or prove he's straight. For example, when Julie expressed a desire to have a child, possibly with Chris, he was ambivalent, and seemed more interested in a threesome between Panda, Julie and himself.<ref>[[BlueSpike Skype Logs 3#2009-02-04]]</ref> Yet with new heartthrob Ivy, his fantasy of making a family was strong, and Chris was upset when Ivy said she didn't like the name Crystal, and demanded a say in their daughter's name.<ref>[[Ivy Q&A]]</ref>

Likewise, in a dialogue with potential sweetheart [[Father Call|Kacey's dad]], Chris revealed that he had a "[[Chris and religion|prophetic]]" dream about Crystal when he was between the ages of seven and nine. He reiterated this later in the conversation, saying he was "definitely in elementary school", when he dreamed about giving birth to a daughter (in the dream he had [[Chris and work|an office job]], which also [[Chris's resume|won't happen]]). "Give birth" slipped out, as in Chris would like to [[Pregnant Act|gestate a human female infant within his body]] (or perhaps [[Monty Python|in a box]]) and somehow deliver her into the world. While it's most likely that Chris just fucked up while talking due to [[stress]] and [[autism]], this could also be a Freudian slip suggesting that Chris has some [[Homos|gender]] [[Pregnant Act|identity]] [[tomgirl|issues]], which typically begin in childhood. It's also somewhat possible that he doesn't know that the mother is the only one who gives birth, seeing how he [[Chris and English|uses it in other contexts]].

After Kacey, [[Jackie]] was next in line as the vessel for which Chris' gift from God was to be bestowed. Crystal was featured in Lego form in the [[PlayingHouse]] video. Despite only being in preschool, she's advanced enough to keep a diary and look after her baby brother [[Reginald Chandler|Reginald]].

=== The influence of the Idea Guys ===
[[File:CWCSonichu Rule34.jpeg|thumb|300px|Chris draws himself buttfucking his "son", [[Sonichu]], to guarantee Crystal's birth... [[Biology|Somehow.]]]]

In [[December 2017]], Chris was [[brainwashed]] by the [[Idea Guys]] over how Crystal would be born. Role-playing as [[Magi-Chan]] to Chris, an Idea Guy explained that the male [[Sonichu]] would become pregnant with Crystal after being impregnated by Chris through buttsex, and that by drawing it happening, Chris wouldn't have to do nasty anal himself.<ref>[[Idea Guy Q&A#Trolling Jessica Quinn, drawing of Chris fucking Sonichu]]</ref> Chris actually believed this, and produced the drawing to appease them, even though [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|his comic book counterpart]] allegedly does not have a [[Duck|penis]] [[Transgender|post-transition]]. Suffice it to say, nothing ever came of this.

[[Chris lost Crystal]], an undated, leaked video from the Idea Guys saga (although it's mostly due to the influence of the [[Teen Troon Squad]]), shows Chris yelling at a toilet, demanding to know what happened to his "baby". No context has been provided for the video, aside from some associated text provided by the Squad confirming that Crystal was the baby that Chris was screaming about, and not Reginald. However, it's possible that the drawn incident with Chris rawdogging Sonichu may have resulted in Crystal existing ([[Chris and reality|at least in his mind]]) before [[Dark Mirror Hole|disappearing from this world]].

Crystal apparently wrote a [[Future message from Crystal W Chandler|future message]] delivered by her brother Reginald ([[Enablers|actually a troll playing along with Chris's delusions]]). The message itself describes Chris's goals of becoming a parent and warns people to make adjustments to their lives ahead of the coming [[Dimensional Merge]].

Like with much of the Idea Guys' lore, Chris maintained belief in the Crystal birth prophecy long after their ousting. In November 2019, he mentioned it on Twitter:

{{quotebox|It has been written that the father to me becoming the mother of the future Crystal Weston Chandler Sonichu, is none other than Sonichu (Prime), Himself; my Son. I am not dumb, stupid or blind to what is false from others; my abilities and mentality have improved greatly over the past months and years.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1194506176505012225</ref>}}

===Name===
Her name is identical to that of [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|Chris's sister]] from the comics, leading to some confusion.

It is unclear which spelling he was projecting for his future daughter (although he used "Crystal" in a [[Facebook]] message<ref>[[Facebook messages#Christy Backe]]</ref> and the infamous "Story of My Current Days"<ref>[[Story of My Current Days]]</ref>). In the comics he spells his [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|stupid fake sister]]'s name "Crystal" consistently, although somebody called "Crystle" appears in the [[Mario Kart 64 Lego Raceway|''Mario Kart 64'' Lego Raceway]].

In a [[February 2019 social media posts|2019 survey]] he referred to Crystal as '''Crystal Weston Chandler Rosechu'''.

== Could Chris actually have a child? ==

'''<big>Nope!</big>''' Not anymore.

Prior to becoming [[transgender]], Chris's chances of conceiving his God-given daughter were extremely slim, but not impossible – it was at least possible for him to impregnate a woman, however unlikely that would have been owing to obesity's effect on fertility and rather more pressingly actually finding a willing female. However, [[May 2015 Facebook posts|with HRT in session]] Chris is destroying what fertility he once possessed, rendering the odds of actually conceiving a child at 0%.

In November 2014, after being rejected by a sperm bank, he even went as far as asking a friend to be the vessel which will allow Crystal to enter our world<ref>[[Open_Relationship_E-mails#Need_my_daughter]]</ref>, but as addressed, he is no longer producing potent sperm. [[All Star|A later video]] showcased that he has difficulty getting an erection in spite of [[mass debating]] for three straight minutes, which just adds to his list of problems. In Chris's defense, however, he had just [[piss]]ed all over the floor, and such an event usually makes it a bit harder to get it up.

In September 2020, Chris explained that he still has interest in getting a sexual reassignment operation in the hopes of being able to give birth.<ref>[[Discord Q&A 7]]</ref> Unfortunately for Chris, those who undergo a Male-To-Female sexual reassignment surgery are incapable of carrying children. Although some scientists are looking into the possibility of transplanting uteruses into transgender women, Chris would likely be too old or too unhealthy to bear children in the event of such a breakthrough – and that's all presuming that he could save up enough to pay for that in the first place, which seems like wishful thinking, [[Chris and money|considering that money seems to be the only thing that Chris can't hoard]].

In short, Chris will die childless: as long as he avoids [[Financhu Crisis#Future|sinking his finances]] to the point of foreclosure, the [[toys]] that Chris claimed to hoard for his future children will go to the State of Virginia if there is [[Chris's Last Will and Testament|no will]], and none of his [[Minor Family Members|other family members]] step in.<ref>[https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title64.2/chapter2/section64.2-200/ Code of Virginia § 64.2-200]</ref>

===Should Chris ever have a child?===

{{Protip| This entire section is pure speculation since Chris doesn't and fortunately will never have real children}}

'''<big>Double nope!</big> definitely not.

While this might sound something that an A-logger would say, Chris would genuinely be giving Josef Fritzl a run for his money in the worlds worst parent awards; because despite him effectively making it his life's goal to create a child, he has zero knowledge, ability or even interest in actually raising one.

Chris over the years has made it clear that his abilities to take care of anything that [[Chris and negligence| requires any effort whatsoever is extremely lacking]]; while the Sonichu temple itself is not Chris's fault due to his parents hoarding habits, he has free reign over his own room which over the years has become completely uninhabitable (eventually retreating into Bob's old room and cluttering that up as well), his numerous cars over the years have all broken down mainly due to Chris allowing them to go for sometimes over a year without servicing or an oil change. Chris Chan would likely attempt to push the responsibilities of caring for the child onto either his partner or his mother [[Incest| or both]]

Chris is an extremely angry individual when not on his hormonal treatment (which he would need to not take if he wanted to actually have a child), having a parent who is likely to fly off the handle as easily as Chris would definitely emotionally damage any child, especially if he attempts to cheer the kid up with his horrifying [[Donald Duck impersonation]]. Chris's anger issues would likely be exacerbated if the children are mentally challenged which they would likely be.

If the children were born the wrong gender (as in not being a girl and a boy respectively, not meaning gender dysphoria) then Chris would likely attempt to groom them into gender dysphoria till they matched his desired gender, which unfortunately autistic children are especially vulnerable to, Crystal and Reginald's connection with reality as a whole will likewise also be warped beyond repair.

And lastly we have to discuss the subject of [[Incest]]; like it or not Chris is okay with incest and his stance on [[Pedofork| age of consent]] is shaky at best; even before the [[Idea Guys]] tricked him into marrying the 15 year old [[Cryzel]] Chris seems to only somewhat follow the laws against child exploitation due to it being the law and not because he finds them immoral. When it comes to parental incest even before the affair with Barb began, Chris had made it clear that as long as conception was not possible (through either lesbianism, post-menopause mother son incest, or simply the use of contraceptives) the act is not necessarily immoral; if Chris is okay with having sex
with his mother, then what is to stop him from engaging in sex as the mother.

In short any child under Chris Chan's care would be emotionally, mentally, physically and sexually unwell at best. For those thinking we are living in the worst timeline, just remember it could have been so much worse.

==External links==
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu76_wphCp8 CWC Sketch- Crystal]

==References==
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==See also==
*[[Chandler Family Tree]]
*[[Chris lost Crystal]]
*[[Sonichu]], Christian's other imaginary son.
*[[Simonla Rosechu]], who hoped to someday have a son she would name "Reginald".
*[[Reggie Fils-Aimé|Reginald Fils-Aimé]]
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Necromaster: re arranged the article to make it look a bit neater

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Ever since his creation, Sonichu and his friends were always '''literal children''' of Chris. He'd go under all kinds of aliases such as "Father", "Papa", and more recently "Mama".

==Cherokee Clan leader==
{{Main|Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan}}

==Crystal Weston Chandler (twin)==

{| class="infobox" style="width: 21em; font-size: 90%;"
|-
! colspan="2" | ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' character
|-
| colspan="2" | [[File:Crystal.jpg|200px]]
|-
! colspan="2" |Crystal Weston Chandler
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| '''Date of creation'''
| 22 June [[Sonichu chronology#2005|2005]]
|-
| '''Gender'''
| Female
|-
| '''Species'''
| Human
|-
| '''Transforms into'''
| Crystalina Rosechu
|-
|}

[[Image:153-GirlfriendsGift.jpg|thumb|left|Notice how the "girlfriend" in this pic looks like a crude version of Crystal, even down to the shirt. Freud would have a fucking field day with Chris.]]

'''Crystal Weston Chandler''' is the fictional twin sister of [[Christian Weston Chandler]]. Her role in his fantasy world stems from his long-held desire to have a sibling to play with<ref>Mentioned in his [[Song of Christian]] video: "hoping" for a "lil brother."</ref> along with some narcissistic pleasure and [[Tomgirl Pictures|gender identity issues]] with seeing himself as an [[Homos#Chris and transsexuality|attractive female]]. Crystal represents one of the more embarrassing facets of Chris's mind. Since his notions of the perfect girlfriend, the perfect sister, the perfect daughter, and the perfect female self so easily intersect, it is hard ''not'' to arrive at a conclusion involving [[Chris and sex#Incest|incest]].

He appears to have first created the character in 2004 as "Crystal the Female Twin" for his set of custom ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' cards, although another of those cards depicts Crystal as "Girlfriend's Gift". In fiction, Crystal wears a [[Rosechu]] [[medallion]] correlating to Chris's [[Sonichu]] medallion and [[Reldnahc]]'s [[Black Sonichu]] medallion; this is inconsistent (or is it?) with Chris's usual theme of Sonichu, Rosechu, and Blake representing the hero, lover, and villain. In real life, Chris created the Rosechu medallion for his future girlfriend, which raises the question of how he expected to adapt this into the comics when his sister was running around wearing the same bauble as his fiancée.

Crystal's origin is depicted in [[Sub-Episode 5]], where she is made manifest by Chris employing his [[anchuent powers]] and [[Heart Torch of Fail]] to split into two ([[pickle|nearly]]) identical beings. Chris and Crystal wear the same [[Chris and fashion|outfits]] and even have the same super powers, although she lacks her brother's [[heterochromia]]. Throughout her appearances in the comics, characters are constantly noting how attractive she (and, by extension, Chris) is.

In [[2007]], Chris attempted to shock [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] into submission by posting his own [[Rule 34]] drawings, including one of himself [[Shecameforcwc.jpg|fingerbanging a nude brunette woman]]. ED users immediately concluded this was Crystal, a charge which infuriated Chris and therefore became the conventional wisdom. By the time Chris successfully convinced anyone that it was really [[Megan Schroeder]] in the drawing, the notion that Chris wants to bang his imaginary twin sister had already stuck--and, as this article demonstrates, would've arisen anyway. Nonetheless, Megan stopped being friends with him because of the whole business, so Chris lost on both counts.

The theme of incestuous narcissism is also prevalent in literature of the Romantic period, particularly that of Lord Byron, who apparently acted on Chris's fantasy. The theory is that the man in question is so much [[Chris and his ego|in love with himself]] that the only other person he could ever truly love is his double. Furthermore, with the Romantic emphasis on sympathy through [[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares|shared experience]], great nostalgia for [[Chris's room|childhood]], and desire to be "[[Love Quest|understood]]" (though complete disinterest in [[Vivian_Gee_E-mails|understanding]]) make a sibling an ideal sexual partner for the narcissist. Most of the Romantics saw the problem with this, and contented themselves with [[Sarah Hammer|childhood friends]], but then, Chris was never as smart as Wordsworth.

A possible early appearance is in the [[Mario Kart 64 Lego Raceway|''Mario Kart 64'' Lego Raceway]] ([[1998]]) where Christian's kart passes something labelled "'''CRYSTLE'''" (the video quality is too low to see anything) and Chris shouts "Hi!" at it/her.
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===In the comic===
[[File:Crys.PNG|thumb|left|Note the careful attention he paid to drawing his sister's boobs.]]
[[Image:Crystalina_Rosechu.jpg|thumb|Crystal's anthropomorphic form, Crystalina Rosechu. Also the only Sailor Soldier to wear sneakers.]]

Crystal was first introduced in [[Sonichu 3|''Sonichu'' #3]], [[Sub-Episode 4]], where she appeared to aid Chris during a battle with the [[W-M-Manajerk]] in the [[Mal-Wart]] Region. Beaten and nearly subdued, Chris had a vision of his Cherokian ancestor. He revealed to Chris that his [[Heart Torch of Fail|Heart Torch]] is able to summon his "dream sibling". Crystal has also helped Chris battle [[Bagget]] and the [[Transformers|Change-Bot]] Crackder in the [[Get-Tar Region]], as well as [[Mary Lee Walsh]] at the [[PVCC]].

Crystal was trapped in the [[Dark Mirror Hole]] by Mary Lee Walsh and [[Count Graduon]] in [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu'' #5]]. In an attempt to save Chris and [[Sailor Megtune]] from falling victim to the Mirror, she pushed them both out of the way, becoming captive in the Mirror herself. After her capture, a few token mentions have been made of her plight - at one point, it was said that gathering the seven [[Sonichu Balls]] would allow Crystal to escape the mirror - but for the most part she was largely forgotten, especially while Christian himself was stuck in the practically identical [[Time Void]].

Since Chris had been keen on ejecting everyone he created from his [[sweetheart search]] misadventures, the final fate of Crystal Weston Chandler seemed quite grim. Then, partway through [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], Chris suddenly turned into [[Collosal Chan]] and rescued her by simply [[Sonichu Special 4|walking in]], [[I AM STRONG|scooping her up]] in his arms and walking out of the mirror in the most [[Chris and writing|anti-climactic way]]. Chris originally planned that he would hand over mayoral power to his sister at the end of this issue, but for [[Chris and his Ego|some reason]] decided not to.<ref>[[Miyamoto Saga#From Chris to Miyamoto]]</ref>

Being Chris's twin, Crystal's powers are very similar to his. She can transform into a Rosechu called Crystalina Rosechu. When she and [[Chris-chan Sonichu]] join together, they are able to form Chris-Chan Pure and execute a powerful ultimate attack known as [[Chrs-Chan Pure Pulse-Jolt Lance]].

Her "personality" is identical to every single non-evil female character in the franchise: she does nothing except stereotypically girly activities (shopping,<s>getting high from </s> sampling perfumes, chatting about boys, etc) and [[Women's Rights|she defers to men in all things]]. Her fashion sense is similar to her twin brother; she wears the same clown shirts and has a Rosechu medallion. Crystal has an odd quirk where she constantly refers to Chris by his original name, "Christopher," instead of "Christian", the reasoning for which probably exists in Chris' head but has never been elucidated.

In a Twitter post, Chris, while [[Spirit possession|LARPing]] as Sonichu, presented Crystal's origin story. According to Chris, Crystal originated from another dimension where she took over [[CWCville|the helm]] after her dimension's Chris presumably dies. During a battle with her dimension's [[Mary Lee Walsh]], Crystal was sent through a portal into [[Dimensions#C-197|C-197]] after Chris used the [[Heart Torch of Fail]] to summon her. Chris stated that Crystal decided to remain in C-197 after realizing that Chris was the TRUE and HONEST Chris.<ref>[[October 2020 social media posts#What happened to Crystal and more Helena]]</ref>

As another display of Chris's failures in his Love Quest, she also appears to be one of the very few female characters in ''Sonichu'' who was never paired off with anyone.
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===Gallery===
<center><gallery>
Image:152-YuCrystal.jpg
Image:CrystalSquirtle.png|Crystal joins the [[Moon-Pals]].
File:Collosalcrystalina.png|Crystal+Sonichu balls or something.
File:Crystal 001.jpg|Chris's most prominent thoughts on this matter.
Image:CrystalHawt.jpg|Artist's depiction.
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==Sonichus and Rosechus==
{{see also|Robee Sonichu|Cera Rosechu}}

===Sonichu===

===Russel and Cynthia===

{{quote|Back in human form, she extracted some of her essence. Then in (female) Sonichu form, she shot her essence up herself ... After that, when she tried to transform back to human, she could not. She was stuck in her Chris Chan Sonichu form. Then between Magi-Chan and the examinations at the hospital, she was knocked up for sure.|Chris, on the [[May_2015_Facebook_posts#Meet_Russel_and_Cynthia|beautiful act of conception.]]}} [[Image:Cynthia_and_Russel.jpg|thumb|The twins, ravenous for affection.]]

'''Russel Sonee''' and '''Cynthia Rosey''' are Chris's fictional Sonee and Rosey children. After Chris's [[Chris-chan Sonichu|Sonichu form]] became female to correspond with his [[Tomgirl Saga|newfound female identity]], he got the notion to use his own semen to impregnate himself, thus conceiving Russel and Cynthia. Miraculously, neither of the twins emerged as hideous mutants, and Chris proudly insists that they're completely [[autism]]-free.

This little experiment behind him, Chris shoved them off on [[Heather Iglesias]], claiming to visit them every now and again. They are first seen in [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]], attending the [[CWCville]] pride festival with their lesbian nanny. On catching sight of Chris, they immediately run up and cling to him, telling him they miss him. Chris gives them a dismissive "awww!" before coldly allowing Heather to take them away.

Chris described the conception again in 2020: ''"She did the thing from between her ol’ [[Duck|cock]] and moving the spunk into her [[Un-clit|vag]], and had to stay stuck in Sonichu form until Russel and Cynthia were born for a few weeks. After that, she went back to her human form, and she had to go through the similar quick process that Roberta went through, but the Estrogen was coming in quicker with C-Chan, since her alt-form was now female."''<ref>[[April 2020 social media posts]]</ref>

==Reginald Chandler==
{{Quote|Alternatively, if I have a boy as well, I would name him Reginald; that was not a [[dream]]-thing though. I've had a [[PandaHalo|past internet gal-pal]], who would have likely become my girlfriend after she got here from her native land of Australia after finishing College there with a Teacher Degree. We role-played a family day with the children, and she chose the name of Reginald for the boy-child.|Chris<ref>[[Regina e-mails]]</ref>}}
[[File:FatherandSon.png|thumb|right|Chris and Baby Reginald Chandler (Reginald is the stupid little blue stud) from [[PlayingHouse]]]]

'''Reginald Chandler''' is [[Chris]]'s imaginary son and brother to his fictitious daughter [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]]. He pees on the ceiling.<ref>[[IRC (21 January 2009)]]</ref> He is briefly mentioned in chats with [[PandaHalo|Panda]].

His origins seemingly begin with [[PandaHalo]] and her discussions with Chris about the married life they will have in the future (as for Chris, [[Chris and reality|a single date will inevitably lead to a long and happy marriage]]).

Although Reginald has been mentioned several times in conversation, he is nothing in comparison to his younger sister in Chris's eyes. Reginald has no persona in the comics (except possibly as [[Reginald Sneasel]]) and has never appeared to Chris in a dream. Since the untimely death of PandaHalo, Reginald has not been mentioned outside of direct questioning and a recent video, although it is likely that Chris would still name his hypothetical first-born son Reginald all the same.

Reginald was featured in the [[PlayingHouse]] video, where Chris pretends [[Jackie]] is the mother of his children. This time he was depicted as the younger brother to Crystal. While Crystal can write in a diary despite being in preschool, Reginald was mitigated to speaking only in baby babble. The only interaction Chris has with him is complaining about cleaning up the mess he made in the bathroom, [[Butt garments|changing his diaper]], mentioning that he threw up several times during dinner (never stopping to wipe him off), and demanding he stay quiet for the night so he can [[Hanky panky|fuck]] his wife in peace. It's interesting to note that Chris mentions that Reginald sits in a booster seat, not a high chair. While it's likely Chris doesn't know the difference, it also implies Reginald is big enough to be a toddler. Being a toddler who can only speak in gibberish suggests he inherited [[Autism|a]] [[Speech impediment|lot]] from his father.

In [[April 2019]], [[Future message from Crystal W Chandler]] was uploaded to [[YouTube]], purporting to depict a visit from a time-traveling Reginald.

==Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)==

{{Wise|by drawing himself buttfucking [[Sonichu]], then Sonichu will become pregnant with Crystal at some point.}}

{{quote|As for where I see myself, I am uncertain career-wise, but [[Dreams|I HAVE A DREAM]]! And that dream is to find the woman to make my Sweetheart from honest, true friendship, make her my wife, and from us, have a daughter named Crystal Weston Chandler. I've had a number of dreams where I take care of and tend to the needs of my baby, Crystal. And from all those dreams, I knew they were God's wishes for my future.|Chris, presuming to know the wishes of GodBear<ref>[[Regina e-mails]]</ref>}}

[[Image:09-Crystal_Card.jpg|thumb|Crystal as a [[My Little Pony]] character]]

Around the age of [[2003|21]], [[Chris]] had multiple [[dreams]] in which [[GodJesus|God and Jesus]] told him to find a [[sweetheart]] to build [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up|from the ground-up]] to have his '''daughter Crystal''', named "after the [[Honor roll|illustrious metal]]",<ref>[[Chris Chan's Public Announcement]]</ref> according to him. In a custom ''[[My Little Pony]]'' trading card, Chris depicts Crystal as a pony who traveled back in time to help her father – Chris – find a [[boyfriend-free girl]]. This is [[Things Chris has ripped off|completely ripped off]] from Chibiusa's entire premise in ''[[Sailor Moon]]''.

===Crystal and the Love Quest===
[[Image:CrystalWestonChandler.jpg|thumb|left|Artist's impression. This is probably also Chris's impression. It is also the impression that no one ever wants to see become a reality.]]

Finding a woman who would birth Crystal has been a fairly consistent justification for Chris's [[Love Quest]]. At times he has seemed to be more [[Honest Content|honest]] in wanting a girlfriend so he can [[Chris and sex|get laid]] or prove he's straight. For example, when Julie expressed a desire to have a child, possibly with Chris, he was ambivalent, and seemed more interested in a threesome between Panda, Julie and himself.<ref>[[BlueSpike Skype Logs 3#2009-02-04]]</ref> Yet with new heartthrob Ivy, his fantasy of making a family was strong, and Chris was upset when Ivy said she didn't like the name Crystal, and demanded a say in their daughter's name.<ref>[[Ivy Q&A]]</ref>

Likewise, in a dialogue with potential sweetheart [[Father Call|Kacey's dad]], Chris revealed that he had a "[[Chris and religion|prophetic]]" dream about Crystal when he was between the ages of seven and nine. He reiterated this later in the conversation, saying he was "definitely in elementary school", when he dreamed about giving birth to a daughter (in the dream he had [[Chris and work|an office job]], which also [[Chris's resume|won't happen]]). "Give birth" slipped out, as in Chris would like to [[Pregnant Act|gestate a human female infant within his body]] (or perhaps [[Monty Python|in a box]]) and somehow deliver her into the world. While it's most likely that Chris just fucked up while talking due to [[stress]] and [[autism]], this could also be a Freudian slip suggesting that Chris has some [[Homos|gender]] [[Pregnant Act|identity]] [[tomgirl|issues]], which typically begin in childhood. It's also somewhat possible that he doesn't know that the mother is the only one who gives birth, seeing how he [[Chris and English|uses it in other contexts]].

After Kacey, [[Jackie]] was next in line as the vessel for which Chris' gift from God was to be bestowed. Crystal was featured in Lego form in the [[PlayingHouse]] video. Despite only being in preschool, she's advanced enough to keep a diary and look after her baby brother [[Reginald Chandler|Reginald]].

=== The influence of the Idea Guys ===
[[File:CWCSonichu Rule34.jpeg|thumb|300px|Chris draws himself buttfucking his "son", [[Sonichu]], to guarantee Crystal's birth... [[Biology|Somehow.]]]]

In [[December 2017]], Chris was [[brainwashed]] by the [[Idea Guys]] over how Crystal would be born. Role-playing as [[Magi-Chan]] to Chris, an Idea Guy explained that the male [[Sonichu]] would become pregnant with Crystal after being impregnated by Chris through buttsex, and that by drawing it happening, Chris wouldn't have to do nasty anal himself.<ref>[[Idea Guy Q&A#Trolling Jessica Quinn, drawing of Chris fucking Sonichu]]</ref> Chris actually believed this, and produced the drawing to appease them, even though [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|his comic book counterpart]] allegedly does not have a [[Duck|penis]] [[Transgender|post-transition]]. Suffice it to say, nothing ever came of this.

[[Chris lost Crystal]], an undated, leaked video from the Idea Guys saga (although it's mostly due to the influence of the [[Teen Troon Squad]]), shows Chris yelling at a toilet, demanding to know what happened to his "baby". No context has been provided for the video, aside from some associated text provided by the Squad confirming that Crystal was the baby that Chris was screaming about, and not Reginald. However, it's possible that the drawn incident with Chris rawdogging Sonichu may have resulted in Crystal existing ([[Chris and reality|at least in his mind]]) before [[Dark Mirror Hole|disappearing from this world]].

Crystal apparently wrote a [[Future message from Crystal W Chandler|future message]] delivered by her brother Reginald ([[Enablers|actually a troll playing along with Chris's delusions]]). The message itself describes Chris's goals of becoming a parent and warns people to make adjustments to their lives ahead of the coming [[Dimensional Merge]].

Like with much of the Idea Guys' lore, Chris maintained belief in the Crystal birth prophecy long after their ousting. In November 2019, he mentioned it on Twitter:

{{quotebox|It has been written that the father to me becoming the mother of the future Crystal Weston Chandler Sonichu, is none other than Sonichu (Prime), Himself; my Son. I am not dumb, stupid or blind to what is false from others; my abilities and mentality have improved greatly over the past months and years.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1194506176505012225</ref>}}

===Name===
Her name is identical to that of [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|Chris's sister]] from the comics, leading to some confusion.

It is unclear which spelling he was projecting for his future daughter (although he used "Crystal" in a [[Facebook]] message<ref>[[Facebook messages#Christy Backe]]</ref> and the infamous "Story of My Current Days"<ref>[[Story of My Current Days]]</ref>). In the comics he spells his [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|stupid fake sister]]'s name "Crystal" consistently, although somebody called "Crystle" appears in the [[Mario Kart 64 Lego Raceway|''Mario Kart 64'' Lego Raceway]].

In a [[February 2019 social media posts|2019 survey]] he referred to Crystal as '''Crystal Weston Chandler Rosechu'''.

== Could Chris actually have a child? ==

'''<big>Nope!</big>''' Not anymore.

Prior to becoming [[transgender]], Chris's chances of conceiving his God-given daughter were extremely slim, but not impossible – it was at least possible for him to impregnate a woman, however unlikely that would have been owing to obesity's effect on fertility and rather more pressingly actually finding a willing female. However, [[May 2015 Facebook posts|with HRT in session]] Chris is destroying what fertility he once possessed, rendering the odds of actually conceiving a child at 0%.

In November 2014, after being rejected by a sperm bank, he even went as far as asking a friend to be the vessel which will allow Crystal to enter our world<ref>[[Open_Relationship_E-mails#Need_my_daughter]]</ref>, but as addressed, he is no longer producing potent sperm. [[All Star|A later video]] showcased that he has difficulty getting an erection in spite of [[mass debating]] for three straight minutes, which just adds to his list of problems. In Chris's defense, however, he had just [[piss]]ed all over the floor, and such an event usually makes it a bit harder to get it up.

In September 2020, Chris explained that he still has interest in getting a sexual reassignment operation in the hopes of being able to give birth.<ref>[[Discord Q&A 7]]</ref> Unfortunately for Chris, those who undergo a Male-To-Female sexual reassignment surgery are incapable of carrying children. Although some scientists are looking into the possibility of transplanting uteruses into transgender women, Chris would likely be too old or too unhealthy to bear children in the event of such a breakthrough – and that's all presuming that he could save up enough to pay for that in the first place, which seems like wishful thinking, [[Chris and money|considering that money seems to be the only thing that Chris can't hoard]].

In short, Chris will die childless: as long as he avoids [[Financhu Crisis#Future|sinking his finances]] to the point of foreclosure, the [[toys]] that Chris claimed to hoard for his future children will go to the State of Virginia if there is [[Chris's Last Will and Testament|no will]], and none of his [[Minor Family Members|other family members]] step in.<ref>[https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title64.2/chapter2/section64.2-200/ Code of Virginia § 64.2-200]</ref> Regardless of any of this, Chris's unique combination of [[Chris and work|his laziness]], [[Debt|poor financial skills]], [[Chris and negligence|neglect for]] [[Chandler cats|his]] [[Clover and Snoopy|pets]], and [[Chris and mental healthcare|poor grasp]] [[Chris and reality|on reality]] all generally indicate that he'd be a pretty shitty parent even if he could have kids, so in a way it's probably for the better that no child is going to be raised in the cesspit that is [[14 Branchland Court]].

==External links==
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu76_wphCp8 CWC Sketch- Crystal]

==References==
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==See also==
*[[Chandler Family Tree]]
*[[Chris lost Crystal]]
*[[Sonichu]], Christian's other imaginary son.
*[[Simonla Rosechu]], who hoped to someday have a son she would name "Reginald".
*[[Reggie Fils-Aimé|Reginald Fils-Aimé]]
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