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Talk:A-Logs

2012-09-11T17:12:27Z

Old meme:

It's a start, but it could be a lot better. I'm only vaguely familiar with A-Log myself, so I'm not sure how much I could do to fix the article. While I don't want this to turn into an Encylopedia Dramatica article about A-Log himself, we need more direct comparisons to him and his actions to fully illustrate why this is discouraged.

If I might make a suggestion Champ, (and this is the only time I will ever say this), I think that this is something we'd need the /cwc/fags' help with. They're the ones who discovered A-Log, know everything about him, wrote his actual ED page, and let's be honest here; When you say the "broader CWC community", that's mostly referring to /cwc/. Why not go over there and put up an invite for them to help us define Alogging and educate the newfags? At the very least we might get some decent quotes from the anons explaining it a bit.

Just a suggestion. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:03, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

A couple of points...

:1) "Chris's discomfort for black people [...] is arguably more from failing to understand social norms in that you don't announce to the world you're discomforted by African American rather than of the ideology of white supremacy that your average KKK member would have"

:While I'm no Alogger or anything I think that his attitude toward blacks (and Jews) goes beyond merely not wanting to have sex with their women. Just at look at the way [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|he uses the n-word]]. Also let's not forget [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]. Also according to Mimms and Lucas Chris was always worrying that the black kids at the game place would try to steal his stuff, defintely a racist.

:His hatred toward homosexuals most definitely goes beyond regular homophobia. The casual American homophobe does not [[Mailbag 49#Chris loves his country|supports the repeal of DADT so more homos can die]] nor does he wish to [[CWC Address to Unilever About AXE|prevent them from buying certain brands of body spray]]. A typical homophobes does not wish to have homosexuals locked up and forced into reparative therapy either (I'm too lazy to dig up the chat where he advocates that but it's somewhere here on the wiki).

:Now granted, these are not good reasons for inflicting boddily harm upon Chris. He's too much of a pussy to commit hate crimes, too much of a lazy ass to go and harass people Westboro Baptist style and lacks any political clout to make his hare braind ideas a reality, but I still think that you're understimating his bigotry.

:2) Another argument that I can see aloggers using to justify their attitude toawrd Chris is his lawbreaking. I think that the best counterarguments would be: A) Chris's offenses are relatively minor and most aloggers would not wish physical harm upon a person other than Chris who has the same rapsheet. B) While Chris needs to be punished for his crimes, we already have the legal system for it and it's doing [[28 October 2011#Chris's|a bang up job]]. C) By advocating intentional infliction of bodily harm upon Chris, aloggers are being worse than him by supporting crimes far worse (both from a moral and legal standpoint) than anything he's ever done.

[[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 12:09, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

::Another nitpick: "White knights '''believe that Chris is capable of no wrong''' and try to help him [emphasis added]". I somewhat doubt that all white knights really think that Chris is completely blameless, and anyway that's not their defining characteristic. A person who thinks that Chris is much to blame for his current predicament yet also tries to stop the trolls and help Chris better himself is not a white knight? -- [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 16:43, 12 May 2012 (PDT)

*These are good points, NegaCWC and I think the fellow who added a bunch to the page addressed some of these concerns. It's a delicate issue, I want this page done right if it's going to be in the main namespace, so do you (or anyone else for that matter) think it's good to go now?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:37, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
* If the fellow you're referring to is me, then yes, addressing some of those points was part of the intent of my last edit. As for whether the page is ready to go or not, I'm leaning towards "not just yet". Looking at it, there isn't really much in the way of hard information there, and a lot of it is within the confines of opinions and speculation (the arguments for and against). It feels to me a little more like something you'd see on a forum and not an article that could be referenced. I think a little bit more exposition on A-log himself, at least as far as his involvement in the ongoing saga that is Chris, and how the practice of "A-logging" came into being and came to be known as such, would probably make it feel more like an article. A little bit more fact and reference to balance out the opinion and speculation, so to speak. Course, that's just my opinion, and I'm just a noob. -- [[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 03:56, 1 June 2012 (PDT)
:*Like I said on the community portal, this is a tricky article because it doesn't exactly pertain to Chris directly in the same way [[white knighting]] does, or at least we don't have tangible documentation or anything like that of Chris responding to A-Logging. I really don't want to focus the article on A-Log, because 1) this is the CWCki and [[CWCki:CWCki_is#CWCki_is_about_Chris|the CWCki is about Chris]] and not so much ancillary characters like A-Log, especially given that Chris hasn't responded to anything he's done and 2) I'm more concerned about the mindset that was popularized by A-Log rather than the guy himself.
::I agree that in general, we should try to have articles based on facts and references rather than just our opinions and speculation. But I think this article might need to be an exception to the rule. The white knighting article started out as mostly dealing with the meta-topic of "Can Chris be helped?/I think I should try to help Chris" is probably one of the stages Chris trolls go through and it comes up time and again on Chris related sites. The problem with the White knighting article is that one can read it and end up thinking "Gee, Chris doesn't want help and he's not as innocent as he seems, that means he's an awful awful person and he should be punished." I think it should be pretty clear that Chris is not a spawn of Satan like A-Loggers would like to argue, it's common sense really. Maybe talking about A-Logging and what he did, merely to establish the type of behavior associated with A-Logging, would help make this more factual, with examples of A-Logging on various Chris related sites might flush it out and make it seem like an actual phenomena and less than speculation.
::Ideally I want this article to serve a few goals - 1) bring up this topic, because as I said, it comes up time and again and I think it's a significant meta-topic that warrants discussion, and 2) help CWCki readers and editors not be an A-Log. People have said it and they probably have a point that people often read the CWCki and think Chris is an awful, awful person mostly because we have a tendency to exaggerate for dramatic and rhetorical purposes. This article, coupled with a "Don't be an A-Log" rule in regards to article tone, related to [[CWCki:NPOV|NPOV]], would help the CWCki tremendously.
::At least, that's just my opinion. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:01, 2 June 2012 (PDT)
:*It'd be good if we could get a screencap of A-Logging from YouTube (there was some good quotes on a recent /cwc/ thread along these lines), perhaps a screencap from /cwc/ of someone A-Logging and someone replying with "HI A-LOG." -unsigned comment by [[User:Champthom|Champthom]]
*** Y'know, we DO have a good "HI A-LOG"-type message here - someone in the [[Chris and Money]] talk page was talking about Chris's SSI and trying to get rid of it.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 06:49, 1 June 2012 (PDT)

I went in and did a major revision to this page. This was originally on my user page so I took it out and put it on this page because i think the subject matter is relevant to this particular topic on people who may think of "A-Logging" over the Michael Snyder incident.
Kengel1021
* I'm not 100% certain that the revision in question, at least as it is currently worded and formatted, is wholly right for the article. Despite the potential relevance, it doesn't touch upon A-Logging at all, and talks solely about the incident on [[28 October 2011|28 October]]. Moreover, the points you raise are mostly in defense of Chris and his actions on that day. I can see the relevance to A-Logging, in the sense that one shouldn't A-Log Chris over this particular incident, but the reference is tangential at best. I would suggest editing your revision further to make it tie more directly to A-Logging, because as I'm reading it, I feel it belongs more on 28 October 2011 rather than here. I'll further point out that your revision isn't -bad-, per se. Just that it probably needs work to make it more relevant to A-Logging, since you believe the subject matter is indeed relevant. Again, this is only my opinion, and what the bleep do I know? --[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 00:41, 9 July 2012 (PDT)

I have a feeling you are probably right about putting it under the October 28th incident. But there is more leniency regarding this page than the October 28th page regarding speculative articles and I am not sure if this would cross the line or not. Perhaps a moderator could help us here. -unsigned comment by [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]]
* I believe the leniency here is because technically, this article isn't on the CWCki. It's more or less a collaborative rough draft until Champ thinks it's ready to go up. There's also the fact that the topic of A-Logging in general is going to be a bit subjective and speculative because, short of somehow finding actual A-Logs (or at least reformed ones,) most of what we can put is why we think Anthony LoGatto and those of his ilk do what they do. The only relevant facts we can put are about A-Log himself, and the fact that A-Logging happens. 28 October 2011, on the other hand, is all about a specific incident that is both ongoing and (in my opinion) much more significant than the A-Logging phenomenon. Still, someone more veteran than I am would be in a better position to make a call. I'm just guessing here. --[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 22:55, 9 July 2012 (PDT)
:*Like I said, the problem with this article is that it's mostly speculative and opinion and doesn't fit in compared with other articles, that's the main issue. It's easy to find examples of A-Logging - I could probably go on /cwc/ or browse right here on the CWCki and find someone saying something A-Logesque. I think we have an issue that we have people here on the CWCki who are A-Logs and don't realize it that they might object to some things in this article.
::Anyways, I'm tempted to put it in the main namespace, but I want it to be solid, namely that it can demonstrate that this is a phenomena that actually occurs and has relevance to Chris trolling, though in this case it doesn't directly impact him. I think some people think this is an article about A-Log but I don't give a shit about him, I'm more concerned about the attitude towards Chris that's associated with him and not so much the guy himself. The wording has become too weak in this article, "Chris is incredibly gullible" lacks the bite of "Chris is a retard." I can see that people might object to calling Chris a retard, especially since we don't have this elsewhere, but he's practically a retard on a social level. He might not be a technical retard but he's a practical one, he's what colloquially would be called a retard. The wording establishes that he's an idiot who isn't entirely cognizant of his actions, establishing that it's stupid to judge him by some high standard and treat him as if he's some maniacal madman who carefully plans out how they'll hurt people. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:27, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

:This article is extremely [[Chris and Hypocrisy|hypocritical]], since it defends Chris on many of his flaws, yet everywhere else, the CWCki mocks him for these. This article should either be deleted, rephrased, have a talk page, or at least have an "IM WORKING ON IT!" template. The talk page would be very nice indeed --[[User:TRUEandHONESTuser|TRUEandHONESTuser]] 18:10, 17 July 2012 (PDT)
::1) You do realize that this ''is'' a talk page? Everyone's still hammering out a lot of stuff here. 2) Yes, it's defending Chris, but it's defending Chris from A-Loggers who think that Chris should suffer immensely for his actions, not outright defending him for his actions. Yes, Chris can be deplorable and it might be unfair that Chris gets away with a lot of stuff, but in the end, we're all trying to prevent future A-Loggers/Chris-Chans from rising up and becoming targets themselves. It's not worth it.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 15:22, 18 July 2012 (PDT)
:*I don't think this page is hypocritical. Ideally, we shouldn't be outright bashing Chris like A-Log does. I don't think the problem with the page but with the attitude of the CWCki as a whole. People often accuse the CWCki for A-Logging, and I think they might be right. Chris really isn't a bad person. I think we try to be fair, if he does something that warrant criticism we criticize him for it, but I think some of the times we're too over the top, usually for rhetorical purposes and I think people who don't have autism should be able to recognize this. But I think we need to have this article so we can say "Don't be an A-Log." It's one thing to point out Chris's faults, it's another thing to act like Chris is a subhuman sociopath who's worse than Hitler and deserves to die. Seriously, Chris is an idiot, he's really not a bad person. If you want to see harm befall Chris or you think he's truly responsible for all his actions, get some goddamn help.
::This page frustrates me though. I think part of the problem is that a lot of you are in fact A-Logs who don't recognize the fact Chris is an idiot. The other problem is that people think this is an article about A-Log when it's more about the behavior that's become associated with him. I wish there was a term that didn't involve his name so we don't have this problem but I can't think of anything better, plus nobody would have any idea what I'm talking about.
::I think we're good on the basic counter arguments, what we need are some real examples of A-Log type behavior from Chris related sites (CWCki, CWCki Forums, /cwc/, YouTube, DeviantArt, etc.). --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:27, 30 July 2012 (PDT)
:::I must say, I heartily approve of the examples section. We definitely need more of these. I'll troll around and see what I can find. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 04:35, 5 August 2012 (PDT)

==Citations==
Should we get citations for the examples? I know that there aren't any available for some, but I assume that if we were able to get these quotes recently, the videos they came from must still be around and we can get screencaps for at least a few. I ask, because that quote that claims to be from the CWCki I couldn't seem to find the specific user responsible for. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 10:12, 11 September 2012 (PDT)

User talk:Alan Pardew

2012-09-11T17:00:35Z

Old meme: Created page with "Good work on the A-Log page. Keep it up. --~~~~"

Good work on the A-Log page. Keep it up. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 10:00, 11 September 2012 (PDT)

User:Alan Pardew

2012-09-11T16:59:04Z

Old meme: No need to reinvent the wheel. Just use the userboxes as you would any other template.

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Talk:Chris and religion

2012-09-07T09:46:13Z

Old meme: /* Breaking all Ten Commandments */

==Do something about Romans==
It's a nice quote but it's too big. I tried incorporating it into the article but it didn't look very good, something should be done with it to make the quotes section a bit smaller. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 18:11, 23 August 2010 (PDT)

==To do==
*Chris's warped version of Christianity (homosexuality = bad, lesbianism = good, sex before marriage = okay).
*his twisted double standard of morality (anyone else lies = "vicious lies and slander", Chris outright lies = "half-truths"; also how Adam Stackhouse cheating = bad, Chris cheating = okay).
*God's influence on his dreams
*how Chris is guilty of all seven deadly sins

==God is a Troll==

If we assume God exists and it was God who talked to Chris could it be argued that God is trolling chris as well?

==Split==
I'll entertain the motion of splitting off GodJesus into its own page, since Chris has invoked God specifically in much of his work, which can be considered a separate thing to how Chris views religion, in addition to GodJesus being in the comic and a popular meme amongst trolls. We can document all the times Chris has invoked GodJesus in various media.

Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:07, 2 September 2009 (CEST)

I guess go on. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 11:11, 3 September 2009 (CEST)

That could actually be really funny, thinking about it. Go for it! --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 18:36, 30 October 2009 (CET)

Sounds like a good plan. --[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 23:55, 3 December 2009 (CET)

I don't know why no-one ever followed through on this idea. I'd just like to say I support this if the topic is still open. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:41, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

==The Seven Deadly Sins==
The seven deadly sins aren't really 7 specific sins so much as seven categories that cover all sins. In other words, every wrongdoing is motivated, in one way or another By Greed, Sloth, Lust, Pride, Wrath, Gluttony, or Envy. So whether it's lying to save face (pride) raging against guys with girlfriends (Wrath, Lust, Envy) or basically anything else Chris does at all, it all goes back to one of the deadly sins.

That said, I doubt there's any need to actually include that in the article. Making this whole paragraph moot, I guess. whatever.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 05:38, 15 October 2009 (CEST)

:Apparently someone doesn't like the Seven Deadly sins portion of this page much at all. Does the article really need it? I mean, all it does it repeat the point that Chris wallows in wrongdoing. --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 19:20, 19 November 2009 (CET)

::Eh, I vote we leave it in. They're a fundamental part of certain sects of Christianity, and it's an interesting analysis. [[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 00:01, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

===10 Commandments===
Now that's better. I'm half-tempted to delete the 7 deadly sins part completely now that we have this. To whoever wrote it, you're awesome. --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 03:28, 11 December 2009 (CET)

Thanks. :^D [[User:Tyranogre|Tyranogre]] 06:04, 11 December 2009 (CET)

In the "Honor thy father and thy mother": part of the 10 Commandments it says that Chris called his father a bastard once and links to "Bob Walks In Aftermath". Having read it though it sounds to me like he could have been calling the troll a bastard and not his father. Any thoughts? [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 19:32, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

===Levitical Laws===
Also, Saint Paul making a new Covenant; tehcnically, he doesn't have that authority, plus the mythology has Jesus saying in Mattew 5:17-19 http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/5.html#17 that all Old Testament laws still apply.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 02:06, 21 November 2010 (PST)

===Removal===
I've seen a lot of complaints about this page, namely the 7 Deadly Sins section. I swore I addressed this before, maybe I did elsewhere but I personally believe that the Seven Deadly Sins isn't exclusively a Catholic thing. That is, I think if you're breaking the 7 deadly sins, you're not being a very good Christian regardless of denomination. Catholics might be the ones who have this formalized, but I think that if you're lazy, slothful, vengeful, lustful, etc. I think it can be said you're not a very good Christian and that this guideline shouldn't be limited to Catholics. I say this because I've seen comments who think we're applying Catholic standards to Chris or somehow arguing Catholicism is better and I think that's silly.

HOWEVER, I still removed it, but not for those reasons. Nor did I remove it for the complaint that people who read this article thinking that because Chris is a hypocrite, he must be Satan incarnate (if you read the article and get that impression, its not our fault you're as autistic as Chris). Rather, I considered what Old meme said in a section below in that the 10 Commandments should be a sufficient standard measure we can all agree on in determining Chris's Christianity. I think someone reading it should get the idea that Chris isn't a very good Christian.

I also removed the bit about the Levitican laws. From what I understand, that part is only applicable to Jews. I've talked to Orthodox Jews and they'll tell me all that stuff is only applicable to them, and if you do a bit of research into Christian theology you'll find out that a majority of Christians believe that Jesus superseded all the stuff about mixing fibers in clothing, not eating pork, that sort of thing. The except, a Jew would say, are the [[Wikipedia:Seven Laws of Noah|Noachide laws]] which are the most base laws that apply to all humanity and "sexual immorality" (which would include homosexuality in standard interpretations) is one of them.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:07, 29 February 2012 (PST)

*I'd vote to put it back. Third point: this isn't a site about the (in)accuracy of religion, and the many many MANY cotnradictory beliefs and interpertations from the countless modern sects of christians/jews have on their versions of the origional oral mythologies; what Christians belive the bible means and what it ''actually'' origonally says are entirely different things. Second Point: while a standard measure does provide a good baseline, I felt that the site was always about how ''beyond'' the baseline Chris goes. While one is more likeley to violate the nuances than the general rules, those sections had a lot of good work put into them, and show through a thurough scope what a thurough failure Chris is. Lastly, on the first point, while the Seven are officially only Catholic dogma (as are, for example, the Trinity, the Saints, Exorcism/spirits, and Mary also being prayed to), they are also common knowledge and commonly understood. For example, [[wikipedia:Mitochondrial Eve]] and Parasite Eve (the game), neither are Abrahamic, but both refrence Eve of Genesis, because of the widely understood ''point'' of the term. The relevance of which is that while it may be Catholic, that doesn't matter, because it's just as valid a guideline as the Ten Commandments, both of them just being religious edicts supposedly inspired by God, that in all probability are strictly of human origin. --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 21:18, 14 April 2012 (PDT)
** I second that vote, aside from the points, Xavier made, there is also the basic reason that Chris is actually guilty of breaking all of the deadly sins. I also believe that it'll make the article a bit more interesting as well. The Levitical Laws, however, can stay gone IMO, those were just speculation at best. [[User:ElRodrigo|ElRodrigo]] 07:56, 2 June 2012 (PDT)

==Possession?==

christfag here i believe chris might be possessed or demonically oppressed having cast demons out of people before he acts very similar to them [[User:Ultrajinx|ultrajinx]] 17:31, 20 November 2009 (CET)

of course if this is true and if some one at his church has half a brain and recognizes this expect the saga to be over very quickly
(this is just a theory after all) [[User:Ultrajinx|ultrajinx]] 17:36, 20 November 2009 (CET)

:I'm also a Christian, but I really don't think there's much evidence here for demonic possession. Chris strikes me as just a terrible person on the whole, not a terrible person the devil is controlling.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 17:56, 20 November 2009 (CET)

::The devil is wasting his time if he's controlling Chris. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 18:54, 20 November 2009 (CET)

but if he is truly born again then he can't be possessed only oppressed [[User:Ultrajinx|ultrajinx]] 15:32, 21 November 2009 (CET)

the only reason i started thinking about this was when in one of the many chats he mentions how he hears things like "chris is gay" [[User:Ultrajinx|ultrajinx]] 04:16, 22 November 2009 (CET)

:I think that's more a case of self-denial or possible schizophrenia. No need to insert something silly like "demonic possession". Of course, maybe I'm a little biased against the idea, being atheist, but the symptoms are also right in line with the possibilities I mentioned, and my suggestions are things we actually know to exist, rather than a (fairly archaic) religious mere. [[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 00:05, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

==Other Religions?==

Should we document Chris's opinions on religions other than his own? Unfortunately, there's not much to go by, save a few Mumble chats and recent mailbag responses, but he seems tolerant of other people's beliefs (although this could be attributed to his willing ignorance of everything outside Virginia). --[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 00:00, 4 December 2009 (CET)

Thanks, Dkaien. --[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 21:35, 4 December 2009 (CET)
:*That's definitely going to be hard since Chris is unfamiliar with any non-Christian religion. Hell, he doesn't really know the difference between Catholics and Protestants. {{unsigned|AntonImausMk2}}

Chris said in [[Mailbag 21#In which Chris receives a letter from the son of God|the mailbag]] that he agrees with all of Fred Nile's views, and Fred Nile is apparently quite anti-Muslim. Make of that what you will. --[[User:Sonichuis44|sonichuis44]] 07:51, 21 December 2009 (CET)

== Source? ==

Has Chris ever actually been asked why he believes that there is pain and suffering if there is a loving God? The page suggests he has, but I can't find any source for it. --[[User:Mekka|Mekka]] 03:22, 15 December 2009 (CET)

== Reincarnation ==

[[Mailbag 21#Chris gets a call from the doctor|Right here]].

Chris's religion is now basically just a mishmash of every faith he's ever heard of, with a good helping of shit he just plain made up.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 07:20, 21 December 2009 (CET)

== Afterlife ==

So I wrote a little bit about Chris's stance on the hereafter, and how it really doesn't have anything in common with Christianity. I just kinda tacked it onto the end of GodJesus, because I couldn't really think of anywhere else it would fit properly.

Pretty much the entire idea of Christianity is that Jesus saves, and that it's impossible to save ourselves no matter how many good deeds we do. It's weird, considering he bases so much of his identity on it, but Chris really isn't a Christian at all.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 08:26, 3 January 2010 (CET)

I think it's possible that he actually doesn't give a damn about Christianity; and that he follows it for his own personal gain. If he ignores most of what Christians believe, and how he's selfish as fuck when it comes to referencing GODJEBUS (Like that time he mentioned how God would send the trolls to hell if they didn't listen to him, for example) then I would assume that Chris really doesn't care much

Here's a thought: What if Christianity turned out to be right, and after he dies, Chris went to hell? Can you imagine his reaction? Oh the hilarity. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:41, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

I promise you he would say God is trolling him and then bore Satan with his comics. [[User:Admiral Klank|Admiral Klank]] 01:09, 19 September 2010 (PDT)

== Issue 10 page 48 ==

So, we have a hedgehog kneeling in prayer before some sort of altar, a stone rolling away from a tomb by itself, and hyper Sonichu, in a church window, assuming the pose Christ had when he died on the cross. Chris just made Jesus Christ an orange Homophobic hedgehog. I'll try and add this to the main article when I'm done raging, because honestly, this is blasphemy on levels I didn't think Chris was capable of.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 05:53, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
*I just saw this and... like they say: you think you've seen Chris hit the lowest, then he ends up outdoing himself.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 06:11, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
** The worst part is that that page is stained with something-or-other. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 02:08, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
** I added a bit about Sonichu's apparent new Messianic role, feel free to add/edit/delete if you think it sucks, as up to this point my edits have been mostly minor typo corrections [[User:Magic8Ball|Magic8Ball]] 12:02, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
***You done good Magic8Ball. You done good.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 23:08, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

== Satanism Comparison? ==

Or would Chris the Shaman cover most of the satanic-like things he's done, especially that fucked up attempt to brainwash us into hating Asperchu instead of Sonichu? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 00:51, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
:*Please remember that we are talking about Chris here. He's pulling tons of stuff out without a hint of afterthought. At worst, he will ask pardon to GosJesus and everything will be well since he's forgiven. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 01:19, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
:::I think Chris the shaman covers it well enough. Also, the whole Backmasking thing was really more of a failed attempt at a subliminal message than a cry to Satan.
:::Of course, we should still call it a satanic message because that's funnier.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 23:15, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
::::Editing the Jackie e-mails right now, groups 16-17, Jackie makes multiple good points on how Chris is, in fact, exactly how a Satanist would act.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 02:02, 21 November 2010 (PST)

==Works or Faith==

To be accurate, the Bible is pretty contradictory on faith saving you alone or the works saving you, and many Christians believe the concept of faith alone to be Satanic. So maybe the Christians Chris is around believe that. [[User:JamieTyler|JamieTyler]] 22:35, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
:This is correct. "Protestant theology explicitly states that the salvation of one's soul is based completely on one's faith" is nothing like true and only people like Jack Chick are crazy enough to take it to its logical conclusion (that it's fine and just for Eyebrows McRapington to confess and accept Jesus one second before he dies and go to heaven, while a man who spends his entire life being a perfect human being but doesn't accept Jesus gets tossed into a fiery pit). James 2 is all about how "faith without works is dead" and Rev 20:13 says that in the end the dead will be "judged every man according to their works." The apologists will say these are works ''of faith'', but that still means you have to actually do shit rather than just believe. Fact is, Paul (whose letters form a good chunk of the New Testament) believed salvation was by faith alone, James believed it was by faith and good works and John the Divine seems to have thought it was works alone.

:Granted, Chris' "works not faith" attitude doesn't apply to certain brands of Christianity, but there's plenty who share that belief; for example, because it deals with the thorny problem of almost everyone who has ever lived going to hell no matter how good they were as people. [[User:Ted Van Gruder|Ted Van Gruder]] 07:18, 22 January 2012 (PST)

==The phrase "GodJesus"==

Is [[Matthew 5:27, CWC Confessions|this]] the only time Chris has used it? Was it a one-off like [[niggo]] or [[pedofork]]?{{unsigned|Liquid!}}
*1) please sign your comments (it's four ~ in a row), 2) lots of things Chris says are one off, but they stick to trolls because they find them amusing. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:32, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

== [[The Simpsons]] ==
An odd little coincidence here; I was watching a Simpsons haloween special recently. They're called Treehouse of Horror episodes. They do these non canonical horror stories. Theres one in particular that sees homer killing celebrities for money from advertisement firms. It makes more sense in context. Well it ends with the celebrities coming down from heaven and trying to kill Homer, and before they kill himm he asks what the one true faith is, to which Krusty the Klown replies 'Its a combination of [[Curse-Ye-Ha-Me-Ha|Voodoo]] and Methodist.' Worth mentioning or not? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:45, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:* I think it's pure coincidence. I have yet heard Chris call himself a Methodism or any relation with Voodoo. If he mention it in the future, the comment would be added. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 18:19, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
::*His current church is Methodist. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 19:44, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:::* Good, we are half-way there. At the second he mention Voodoo, the info will fit in the article. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:50, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
::::*[[Chris_and_religion#Chris_the_Shaman|"Despite his professed Christianity, Chris's beliefs and behaviors almost tend towards a sort of shamanistic mindset, where God is a force to be controlled; and the universe can be influenced by various mystic rituals."]] --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 20:06, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::* Nice link but as long as Chris don't use the term "VooDoo" or make a direct allusion to the said scene, there's no ground to add it on the article. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 20:12, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

== Trinity vs. GodJesus ==

Trinitarianism refers to three personas in one being. The Father (Jehovah) is not the same as the Son (Jesus), but both are personas of God. Nor is the holy spirit the same as the Father or Son, but it too is a persona of God. In the past, when explaining the Trinity concept, I've drawn an analogy to one person with three user accounts on a computer. Chris's "GodJesus" could be thought of as not unlike the Trinity, except that the holy spirit isn't regarded as a persona. Am I right? --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 17:41, 19 June 2011 (PDT)

== Different approach? ==

Seems pretty pointless trying to interpret Chris's beliefs in terms of Christianity, or pointing out that his beliefs contradict Christianity, since we all know anyway that he just believes whatever he finds convenient or appealing at the time.

It makes more sense imo to just have this page as a reference on all his prejudices and beliefs concerning the various religions, as well as his interactions with their various institutions. Then we can treat his own religious beliefs as a separate beast, either at another page or a section in this page.

I'd be happy to do the work if this idea gets the thumbs up. --[[User:Corezzio|Corezzio]] 20:55, 20 June 2011 (PDT)
*The thing is, Chris claims to be a devout Christian and frequently invokes Christianity for various reasons. This is more "Chris and ''his'' religion" than Chris and religion in general. I think with any "Chris and" article, it needs to be considered a possible subsection of the [[Christian Weston Chandler]] page - that is, this could easily be one, very large section of that article, but obviously we have a separate page so we can go more in-depth. But if it was part of that page, then we'd be focusing on Chris and his religion, would we not? Someone who would be reading that article would try to get an understanding of Chris's religion, which I think is rightly the focus of this article. In other words, people reading the article will want to know "What are Chris's religious beliefs?" rather than "How has Chris interacted with organized religions?" The former gives us some worldview behind Chris's thought process, the later is more sperg fodder (and I avoid using the term - not to say that one is a sperg if they want to know how Chris has interacted with other religions, merely that one is more likely interested in someone's beliefs that are religious rather than opinions on religious institutions).

:Yes, Chris's beliefs are self serving in many ways but he identifies with Christianity and I think it makes sense to use that as a lens for the page. Furthermore, we have more documentation of him interacting with Christianity than other religions, so that's another reason why Christianity is so predominant.

:Maybe I'm misinterpreting what you had in mind but these are my thoughts based on what I think you're getting at.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:11, 21 June 2011 (PDT)

==Is it necessary?==
I was considering adding Dante Alighieri's circles of hell. But a huge part of the article is listing Chris' sins. Would it be beating a dead horse to do it? Especially since seven of the circles are essentially the seven deadly sins.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 08:48, 10 July 2011 (PDT)
:Sounds unnecessary to me. You'd just be repeating the seven deadly sins part and Inferno was just Bible fanfiction anyway. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 09:52, 10 July 2011 (PDT)
:It has potential. However, I don't really think that he's guilty of treachery (9th Circle) [[User:Hater665511|Hater665511]] 12:39, 19 January 2012 (PST)
:*he has been guilty of treachery with several of his sweethearts. promising his virginity to more than one at a time is one example
:*Yes, but almost all the treachery in the inferno lead to someone getting killed. Chris, to my knowledge, hasn't done that. [[User:Hater665511|Hater665511]] 14:24, 19 January 2012 (PST)
::*I have to agree with Old Meme, this is probably not necessary to the article. Though I would like to point out that Chris's "treachery" lead to the death of Ivy; just saying. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:29, 24 January 2012 (PST)
:This page has enough irrelevant sperging about Chris's sins as it is. I personally think that anything beyond the ten commandments section was pushing it, and they were actually IN the bible. I don't see any need to pointlessly extend this page further. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:55, 24 January 2012 (PST)
*Not to be a dick, but the Seven Deadly Sins aren't technically in the bible. It's a Catholic thing, and Chris is Protestant, so I don't think that that nor the part about the Seven Heavenly Virtues is necessary. One man's opinion. Love, [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 21:02, 28 January 2012 (PST)

==Breaking all Ten Commandments==
Does anyone find this a bit unneccessary? I think the article without this is still enough to prove that Chris isn't a good Christian since this "Breaking all Ten Commandments" part looks "trying too hard" and forced especially the "Thou shalt not steal" part. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 03:39, 6 September 2012 (PDT)
*Why, yes. I do think it is unnecessary my good sir, and you would be doing the Lord's work if you removed it. In future I also recommend being more take-charge with this stuff. If you see cancer in the pages, remove it, and justify your choice in the summary. If someone takes issue with your edits then they'll revert them. Then you can either accept their argument or tell them why they're being a faggot. If you'd just removed this yourself I don't think anyone would have objected. You are right though, this section can go and nothing will be missed. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 02:46, 7 September 2012 (PDT)

User talk:Champthom

2012-09-02T15:53:10Z

Old meme: /* Ban this fag */

Talk to me.

Be sure to check out the archives as well:

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== Champ, I mean it now ==
When I come on here and see that people like [[User talk:Steve Landcleamer|this mouthbreather]] have been fucking with pages while being told not to and spamming pictures of furry porn that we for some reason allow on here, and yet I have the power to neither delete the image or ban the sperg, it cuts me deep. I'm on here often enough and I've already contributed a lot to the wiki. Can you throw some Jerkop powers my way so I can sort this shit out in future? We don't have nearly enough active mods and this place seems to have this kind of shit all the time. I mean this seriously Champ, I think the CWCki could benefit a lot from more Jerkops. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:09, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
:Before you answer him, Champ, keep in mind that I've also been here a long time and am also actively contributing; so if you decided to give Old meme jerkop rights, I sure would appreciate receiving them as well. Just saying. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 09:24, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

*You both make good points. Could you point out the furry image though, the only image I've seen by him is that picture of Chris ejaculating on Anna's face, which I've incidentally deleted because I don't think it really improves the Anna article. Anyways, about quality in general - I've discussed this issue with Anonymax, and this goes for the both of you, that as regular users you have all the tools needed to improve the quality of the CWCki. If there's an incidence such as an edit war going on, you're welcome to ask any of the admins to step in to resolve the issue. For these reasons, I don't think it's needed to add more jerkops or admins for these reasons. However, if it ever got out of control, then I would consider making someone a quality control jerkop to enforce quality standards. However, I think for the most part you all have the tools you need, just keep making good edits and reverting shit like you have been doing and I think that should be sufficient.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:11, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
**He's probably talking about [[:Image:Sonichu.jpg|this picture]], which was spammed on [[CWCki:Privacy policy]]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 23:46, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

== Deletion of Fail; Effects ==

Would it be necessary to organize a project of some kind to remove red "fail" pipes from pages across the CWCki? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 11:27, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
*[http://www.sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Fail&limit=500 Here they all are]. Clean them at your leisure. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 11:57, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
:[[User:Anonybot|Anonybot]] is working on it. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 14:41, 23 April 2012 (PDT)

Fail article deleted, stupid page names corrected, Champ finally got around to deleting the furry porn. It's been a good week. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:39, 24 April 2012 (PDT)
*At least SOMEONE is happy.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:18, 25 April 2012 (PDT)

==Why did you delete the article on Kim?==
She is as notable as any of the gal pals, and all the info IS public, coming from the Kacey calls.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:03, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know the Kim from the Kacey calls is the same Kim Wilson? Kim is a fairly common name. You're also assuming a lot of things, like Kim is ScarletSanctum when you have no proof of that, and you're including a lot of things that are rumors like how some apology video was because Kim was upset. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:04, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

*1. Chris states her name is Kim Wilson in one of the Kacey calls.
*2. ScarletSanctum is Kim's youtube handle, as stated in [[SingStar Challenge]].
*3. Chris addresses in that video that he upset Kim and Kacey with the previous video.

And if the name was an issue why not just redirect the page to "Kim"?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:17, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know that ScarletSanctum is Kim? Does Chris explicitly mention it? Also does Chris specifically say Kim in that video in that it upset her? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:23, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

Chris does explicitly mention it. Look at this dialouge in [[Kacey Call 1]]:
*Chris: Yeah. So you know uh, Kim, you know uh, how she, uh, yeah you know, uh, Kim, I actually heard that Kim and her friend Logan actually live in the Charlton area close to the downtown mall, you know? So if you ever wanted to look her up and, you know, just talk to her, you know, find about more about the impostor for me, or you know, see what her opinion of me is on the Internet from her point of view...
*Kacey: Oh, you want me to do some undercover stuff? Chris, that is so sweet of you! You know how much I wanted to get involved.
*Chris: Oh yeah, sure. You know that ScarletSanctum account? That's hers.
*Kacey: Okay, no, I will totally, totally message her. It's Kim Woods, you said?
*Chris: No, Kim Wilson. Totally. Message her, talk to her all about me.

As far as making the video in response to offending Kim, he also implicitly states this:

"Uh, I dedicate this video to uh, Logan. Boyfriend of my gal-pal, Kim. Yeah, anyway uh, I've--I just wanted to uh, apologize for uh...offending you in anyway"

He could also be referring to offending Logan, but either way why through the baby out with the bathwater?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:35, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*Let me think about it. In the meantime, I've made a [[User:Steve Landcleamer/Kim|subpage]] for you in the meantime.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:39, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

So is there any hold up or is the page good to go? I've answered all your questions and it seems to meet all the requirements.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:32, 5 May 2012 (PDT)
*Don't you think it might be a little bit imprudent to make a page about Kim?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:58, 5 May 2012 (PDT)

*Why would it be imprudent? All the information is public and sourced. All the other gal pals have pages, so what would the problem be?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 18:37, 5 May 2012 (PDT)

*Well?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:39, 7 May 2012 (PDT)
*Good God, first learn some patience, this isn't a life and death issue. Second of all, let me put it this way - in your own words, the supposed Kim calls are unreleased. Why do you think that is?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:18, 8 May 2012 (PDT)

Because "she"'s obviously still trying to troll Chris. Regardless, that's beside the point, while the calls haven't been released, all the information in the article has. You initially deleted it under the guise that is was "Not notable, not based on public information", but we both know that that's clearly not the cause. My page seemed to meet all the guidelines, so based on Cwicki guidelines, what is objectionable about it?

I'm sorry if I seem impatient, I just find this quelling of already public information to be pretty ridiculous and counter productive to the CWCki.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 14:43, 8 May 2012 (PDT)
*Based on my discussions with Canine and Anonymax, I have decided to restore the article. Remember, the CWCki is form Chris's POV so Kim isn't a troll, she has not publicly declared herself to be a troll to Chris. I'd also avoid posting on /cwc/ and CWCki Forums when you make an article on a delicate topic like this.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:09, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

===If I may step in and say a piece===
I know I may not be towing the party line by saying this Champ, but Land has a point here. This is all information that was technically on the wiki anyway, just in out of the way places. Personally, I have no problem with covering things up for trolling purposes, because I understand the need to do so and I'm not one to whine about dang dirty stonecutters, but we have information on Kim here already. I don't care which side of the fence you're on Champ, I'll just go with what you say, but you've got to at least be consistent. Either allow the article outright, or if you object to some of the content in the article being made public, censor it and then allow the censored version to be posted. Your decision is final and no-one would be able to stop you, so I don't know what you're worried about. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:22, 9 May 2012 (PDT)
*True, I realize this, but the issue is that there's a good reason that Kim doesn't already have an article, mostly for [[A_Quick_Guide_to_CWCki#Privacy|privacy reasons]] which is indeed already covered. I'm trying to convey that subtly. Remember, Chris reads the CWCki, and loose lips sink ships. I don't think "we" released the Kacey calls, Canine tells me it was all dropped by Liquid's twin brother so it's not like we were able to filter through everything to see if anything was objectionable.

:This is a difficult decision and I need to discuss it with Canine a bit more, unfortunately we have conflicting schedules so I'll try and catch him tonight.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:31, 9 May 2012 (PDT)

==Chris's POV==
*Thank you for restoring the Kim article. I am wondering something concerning what you said about the cwicki supposed to be from Chris's point of view. Why do articles like [[Obesity]] state that Chris is fat? He's said multiple times that he does not think he is. There are lots of other examples like this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 17:07, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

[[Chris and reality]] would be the best example of this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 18:13, 11 May 2012 (PDT)
::We go by what Chris thinks/says unless we have decent evidence to the contrary. With his obesity, we have more than enough evidence to support this. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:04, 12 May 2012 (PDT)

==Permanently Banned from Message Board==
I really don't understand this at all. Please respond to the email I sent you.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:21, 6 May 2012 (PDT)

Never mind one of the other mods took care of this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:39, 7 May 2012 (PDT)

I have a similar problem and would like to be unbanned. [[User:Negi Springfield|Negi Springfield]] 23:23, 9 July 2012 (PDT)
*I'm guessing you got banned for being a sperglord, but what's your username?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:12, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
I was banned due to 789chan having a thread on me during one of their CWC dry spells. I went by Negi Springfield, so not much different from what I'm using right now. [[User:Negi Springfield|Negi Springfield]] 17:01, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

I would also like to be unbanned from the message board. [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 00:29, 7 August 2012 (PDT)
*You've had two threads about you on /cwc/ plus you've sperged about your "comic." No, you're not getting unbanned.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:44, 7 August 2012 (PDT)

There was never a single warning I had received from any board moderator regarding personal attacks or violating message board policy. If my posts were so terrible, it only stands to reason that your moderators would have jumped in. Aren’t they the watchdogs of the message board?

What exactly is your justification for permanently banning people who have been mentioned on 789Chan? [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 07:22, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
*There is a clear rule about over sperging and if there's a /cwc/ thread about you, odds are you've sperged too much. My moderators are often too lax when it comes to this sort of thing, which is why I step in. I don't need to warn you, you should know better, if you have autism that you choose not to treat that is not my fault. And my rationale? If you've got a thread about you on /cwc/, me banning you is the least of your concerns. In fact, I am doing a favor by preventing you from digging yourself deeper in a hole. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:42, 8 August 2012 (PDT)

Champ this is right from the CWCki about “Sperging”
“The CWCki forums highly recommended place to discuss anything about Chris to your heart's content. This board was created in response to the growing demand for a place where people could discuss anything without fear of violating CWCki's strict talk page policies”

As far as sperging about my comic that was in reference to critiquing Chris’ art style

I mentioned there were open source graphics programs such as GIMP that were completely free to download. I brought up the fact that he could spend a little bit of his tugboat on reference works with royalty free manga stock images and copyright would not be an issue.

As for a few of the other topics that I started that probably sperged?
Are we being unfair to Chris in judging him?
Would you hire Chris if he was genuinely seeking employment?
Do you think that Chris and Barbara were intimate with each other?
If Chris decided to charge $250 for a for two day visit at his house and a no holds barred interview, would you take him up on it?

The board moderator(s) that I observed that wanted to put in their two cents worth joined right in on the debates: They had no issues with this. You mentioned the board moderators were too lax. I disagree. They were doing their job.

Let me share something with you: When that thread started about me around the beginning of January on 789chan and I was permanently banned: I monitored that thread every day. They went back and looked at my posts. Do you want to know what their reaction was?

They were baffled on why I was being banned. They didn’t bust my chops because of what I posted in the forum. What got the thread off the ground was a personal attack on 789Chan over a Beiber troll on my YouTube channel that came back and bit me in the ass. Was it a moment of stupidity that I regretted? Yup.

Have I been brought up twice on 789Chan? No. I’d say 5 to 10 times is more of a realistic estimate. It wasn’t sperging that brought me up on 789Chan. It was curiosity about my YouTube channel (which has been around for years) and more recently my website. [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 20:31, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
*Why do you want to go back on the forum so bad? It's kinda sad that you're going to all this trouble. Seriously, move on dude, talk about Chris on /cwc/, see how that goes. Hell, go to [[User:Slimz|Slimz's]] forum. Or start your own. Why do you want to go back on the forum so much? The point is that you give us unwanted attention and I have enough trouble maintaining the forum's reputation as it is.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:15, 9 August 2012 (PDT)
'''NOTE''' slimz forum is no longer active, never really was. Slimz would like to be reinstated in the forums as well :) i have bene here editing for a while ban was like a year ago. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 13:14, 9 August 2012 (PDT)
*Most of your edits are shit, plus what you do here has no bearing on the forums. You are the reason why everyone on /cwc/ thinks we're all A-Logs, there is no fucking way you're going back on the forum. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:35, 9 August 2012 (PDT)

I just took off my last reply. I'm not going to worry about this anymore. Do whatever you want. [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 22:46, 10 August 2012 (PDT)
*What was the username you had on the forum? I've thought about it and I think I might just let you back on.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:14, 11 August 2012 (PDT)

My username was Kengel1021 [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 16:04, 18 August 2012 (PDT)

== Comms ==

I'm on IRC a lot and today is my day off work so if you're around so am I! --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 02:19, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

== can I help? ==
Hey I have a capture card that does 720p,1800p,ect and wanted to know if I could use it to help (lbp videos,screen shots) does anything need to be rerecorded? also I'm moving soon so if you could say something in the next week or so (before I have to pack my computer up) that would be great. [[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]] 09:14, 1 June 2012 (PDT)
* Sorry it took a day to get back to you, just had to think as I do appreciate your gumption. To be honest though, I can't think of anything in particular, BUT that's just to the best of my knowledge. Head over to [[CWCki:General|the community portal]] and ask there, there might be some people to have some ideas. Just do me one teensy favor - be sure to sign your posts (that's four ~ in a row) so we know who you are when you post. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:29, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
* thanks! [[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]] 09:14, 1 June 2012 (PDT)

==Bruce Johnson==
The Bruce Johnson thing is real. I don't even care about the PVCC anymore. I just want you to know I'm not making up what I added to the cwicki. Would you like a wider screenshot of the facebook convo?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 19:26, 20 June 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know it's the real Bruce Johnson? Or rather, why should we trust you? I could easily have made a Bruce Johnson account to fool you. Even if it is real, do we really need it? All it boils down to is Johnson saying he's not a pedophile contrary to what Chris said. Is this really a startling revelation, that Chris said something negative about someone and it's not true? Do we really need to confirm this, in light of Chris's history? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:36, 20 June 2012 (PDT)
*'Sup bitches, guess who's back? Champy, thought I'd drop in to tell you that under the "no shit is too minor" policy, (which you should really get rid of if it enrages you so), we do indeed need to confirm everything if possible. That said this is still probably bullshit, and confirming this still isn't your job. If you want my two cents, give Landcleamer a chance to convince you of its authenticity at least. I'm sure you have high standards for what you'd accept as convincing proof, so either someone else will go out of their way to contribute something valid, or he can fail to do so and you can say no again. Worst case scenario, Steve Landcleamer turns out to be the weenest of ween trolls and goes through a lot of work to convince you of something fairly inconsequential that can be removed if it later turns out to be fake anyway. The way I see it, this isn't a real problem for you either way. Let the monkey dance. Also, your insulting summaries were hilarious. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 02:12, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
:*I forgot to add in the summary that our friend Steve here wanted to be let into PVCC on the basis of this "startling" revelation. As I've said before, "no shit is too minor" should mean that we don't overlook things, not that we need to get third party confirmation on everything. Anyone who's familiar with Chris knows that his memory isn't totally accurate and he's been known to bullshit. Given that Chris has called Michael Synder a Jew, does this mean we have to contact Michael Synder and confirm whether or not he is a Jew? Do we need to contact Mary Lee Walsh to make sure she's not in fact secretly a witch planning on banning true love from Virginia? It should be pretty obvious that Johnson probably isn't a pedophile, and what does his admission of not being a pedophile say? He could be lying for all we know, I'm not saying he's a pedophile, he probably isn't, but his admission of not being a pedophile shouldn't be startling. I mean, did you expect him to say "Chris got me, I'm a kiddy piddler, I love little boys and molesting them as they sit on my lap and I do horrible profane things to them." Of course the answer is "no," why do we need to have confirmation of this?
::As I've said before, I don't like people bothering Chris tangentially related to Chris about stuff. I think having known Chris is punishment enough, it doesn't help to have epic ween trolls like Steve here think they're gonna get into PVCC on the basis of harassing these people and asking them for information about Chris. I think it's pretty damn weird and spergy to do this, that is to contact people with tangential relations to Chris and ask them details about Chris. Someone on the CWCki Forums is like "No, it's not weird, it's just like liking any celebrity like the Kardashians." Here's the thing - I don't think celebrity magazines are hunting down the lady who served one of those Kardashian people coffee and doing a full length interview. It's bizarre, I would be weirded out if some person went up to and wanted me to tell them everything I know about some person I vaguely remember from years ago.
::This isn't exactly someone who served Chris coffee, it's a major figure in Christory.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
::Burden of proof is on Steve and he's on shakey ground. I don't trust him one bit. I don't like having things that could very easily be false on the CWCki because it hurts our reputation and people already distrust the CWCki as it is, I don't need to give them more reason to distrust it. I don't want to give people an incentive to make up fake bullshit and post it on the CWCki with the thought they'll be declared an epic ween troll for getting "new" "content" and that they'll get into PVCC and that mommy and daddy will finally love them because they'll no longer be wastes of human flesh.
::You have to REALLY convince me here, Steve. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:18, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Hey, no objections from me. Steve wants to dig up trivial information to try and get into PVCC, that's his business. It's not like it would at all harm the CWCki to put up a single quote from the man if it does turn out to be true. Though really, you need to do something about the abundance of ween trolls trying to get into PVCC, or even just normal idiots desperately begging for it, like 16BitAlex. Maybe the guys in the forum itself or on IRC get a good laugh out of them, but I personally just get depressed when I see people like Stevey-boy cluttering the CWCki recent changes, desperately pursuing some unattainable goal by making bullshit edits and whining as hard as possible on talk pages. It wastes your time, it wastes mine, it's rather sad, and it's not even entertaining enough for the guys on /cwc/ to get more than a single thread from it. All in all, a pathetic affair for all involved. I would suggest temp-banning Pipecleaner if he continues to make a nuisance of himself after this, under your "Drama whoring" clause. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:13, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Champ, you have my email. This might be a dumb idea on my part, but I'm willing to give you the facebook login information so you can see the message for yourself. I'm willing to trust you to not fuck with the account, just to go into the private messages and verify the authenticity. After that can I be allowed back to the cwicki forum, under the understanding that I'll never ask to join the PVCC again?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 07:50, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*I think /cwc/ has made a good point, a point I have, is that - what did you expect him to say? Of course he's going to say he didn't molest Chris, even if he did molest Chris he's not going to admit it to some stranger. So having him say that he didn't do it isn't saying much, because either way he'll deny it and that really doesn't add anything to the discussion. And like I said, given Chris's background, we know he exaggerates things, and that his recollection of events aren't always the most reliable, do we need to actually get confirmation of this?
:::Ignoring the issue you wanted to get into PVCC, I don't see what it really adds to the discussion. I also don't want to encourage people to hassle people connected to Chris to get information.
:::If people feel like it absolutely, positively must remain in the article, I'd say something like "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..." or something like that so people can interpret it however they please. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:38, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Alright, can we keep it in under that wording?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 06:34, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::* How do we even know it was from Bruce anyway? I'm not doubting Steve Landcleamer has a message on his facebook, I'm 100% sure that if anyone where to get onto his facebook they would find said message...I'm doubting that it's Bruce. People have been faking to be people Chris knows for quite a while (like Megan), this wouldn't be a first.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 09:10, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Why would someone make an entire fake facebook account full of pictures and friends, on the random change that years after its creation someone recognizes them as Chris Chan's old principal, just so they can dish out false information? If that was the case surely they wouldn't have just said that Chris is a liar and insane.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 10:43, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::*May I ask a question? Even if you did successfully contact Chris's old principal, why was the only thing you could ask "R u pedo lol?". The big questions about Chris's time at NGE are "Why was he sent to the principal?", "Why exactly did they record his screams, was it because he was a repeat offender?", "Why was he transferred there from Greene County Primary?", and "Were the principal's lap incident and scream recording incident the same incident?". Any of those would be worth adding to the CWCki, and it would have cleared away most of the fog surrounding the event. Instead you asked for information that everyone already knew. It's like you stumbled into a garden containing hundreds of delicious alien fruits and came back with a half-eaten ordinary banana.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 15:00, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
:::Firstly, if you read the screenshot, you'll see I did ask him what really went down with Chris being sent to his office and having his screams recorded. All Johnson says is Chris is liar. Secondly I figured asking private information out of the blue about a former student would get no answer, by connecting it to the fact that Chris is getting sued by Snyder (who he also claimed was a pedophile), the message comes across as a concerned citizen looking out for Mr. Johnson, rather than some creep obsessed with Chris, and thus got a reply.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 13:56, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
::*I would also add that just because the Facebook profile is full of pictures and friends doesn't mean it isn't fake. It could just be a -really- good fake. The kind of fake that leaves no obvious evidence that makes it easy to discern as a fake. As to why someone would have done it, stranger and less tactically sound things have happened, enough that I can conceive of and not be surprised by someone doing it for exactly the reasons you mentioned, regardless of the lack of point in doing so. -[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 15:17, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
:::I will be happy to provide you a link to the facebook page, along with it's postings dating years back, and you still tell me this is can all be chalked up to an elaborate troll scheme.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
:::*You don't need to. I checked the page in its entirety (at least as much as I had access to) before I posted here, and did again before posting this. I think this is more of a difference of opinion than anything: the factors that convince you that it is real (profile in existence since 2008, existence of friends and wall posts, etc), don't automatically convince me. Like 4Macie said, if this is a fake, it is hardly the first time someone has done it. I'll also reiterate my opinion that a -really- good fake will not have any obvious signs that it is a fake. I'm not saying that the profile is fake, just that there isn't any compelling evidence that it isn't. My official position is that it exists, and people more savvy and/or more connected than I can verify the truth of it all if they choose to. Whether it is or it isn't, I'm inclined to agree with Champthom in that Bruce Johnson not being a pedophile is hardly an earth-shattering surprise. At best, it's just (allegedly) confirming something everybody but Chris already believed to be true. -[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 17:51, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Does anyone object to keeping this info under the wording Champ suggested, "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..."? --[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
:::*I don't think we should put it on here at all until Champthom is convinced it's real. Also; epic ween, brah.. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 03:33, 25 June 2012 (PDT)

===My thoughts===
I think the wrong focus here is whether it's indeed real or not. Supposedly this Facebook profile has been around a while, has plenty of photos, etc. What motive is there for someone to go into such detail and for what purposes? It's pretty easy why someone would want to impersonate someone like Megan or someone Chris knew from high school - so Chris will see these people, decide to talk to them, and they'd then be able to troll Chris. What purpose is there for someone faking Bruce Johnson? Why would Chris decide to contact Bruce Johnson? I can only really imagine Chris deciding 1) to look up Johnson and 2) taking the effort to contact him mostly to say something like "You molested me you pedofork!" and mind you, Chris is pretty lazy so he wouldn't go to that much hassle. So we have to possibilities - 1) someone has planned since 2008 to troll Chris and has created a believable Facebook profile, all for the motive of trolling Chris or 2) it's actually Bruce Johnson. Occam's razor would suggest the latter.

I think the real issue here is - how can we be sure it's real or not? There's no way of knowing whether this is real or not. Are we supposed to take Steve's word for it? What's to stop other people from making similar claims? People love making shit up about Chris and using that as a way to get attention for themselves or in Steve's case, to try and get into PVCC. The CWCki was designed purposely to separate truth and fact and that's why I take this sort of thing seriously, namely that I don't like things of dubious origins to be cited as facts on here.

But also, let's consider - why the hell is this so damn important? I mean, it's just Steve saying "Chris says you're a pedophile" and Johnson says "No I'm not." Is that really startling? Will this totally change the way we look at Chris's claim? You know what? Even if he was a pedophile, do you really expect him to admit to a strange he molested children? So his confession says nothing really. I think that a reader of the CWCki should be familiar with Chris's track record with memory in that he tends to remember things in his favor (like that he was a Pokemon gym leader vs. Lucas and Mimms's claim that he only did it one time when all the regular people were out), plus that [[Wikipedia:Repressed_memory|repressed memories]] in general can be dubious and that it's very easy to construct pseudo-memories. Let's be VERY generous and let's say that Chris was indeed molested by Bruce Johnson. Does this really excuse his homophobia? I'd say no. True, it'd be a more valid reason than thinking that you can "turn" gay but I think that really only justifies not liking one particular gay person. Let's say a black person robs me - does this justify me being racist to all black people? No, that'd be silly, just because one particular black person harmed me doesn't mean I should hate blacks as a groups. Same thing applies to Chris and gays.

Side note - Steve, don't break up one of my posts, because it looks like you wrote that whole bit when I in fact did.

In regards to your comment, you're right, this isn't like someone serving coffee - it's much weirder. It's more like if a complete stranger approached you on the street and asked you about the guy who sat two seats in back of you in English class and demanding you tell them every single detail about them. No, Chris isn't a celebrity, he's our bizarre obsession and we need to be honest with ourselves, it's sorta weird. If it wasn't for trolling, Chris would be an ordinary, dull person, albeit with some eccentricities but just an ordinary person who you might look at a few extra seconds if you were to pass him by but not a celebrity by normal standards. If you think it's normal to contact people who vaguely know people from ages ago and ask them for every single detail about said person, they'd probably think you're some sort of stalker or there's something mental with you.

So should we have this tidbit on the article? Like I said, I don't think it really adds anything. If it's generating this much furious debate, I don't think it'd be wise to include it. This isn't about me not being convinced, it's about not convincing the CWCki community as a whole. Like I said, I don't think we're losing out on anything major here.

Those are my thoughts at least. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:20, 25 June 2012 (PDT)

Why not include it? Isn't there an inherent interest to here Johnson's response even though it is what we'd assume it would be? It can only make an article stronger. Take for example a New York Times article about an alleged criminal, it will always make a note that they contacted the accused, even if the person simply replies with a refusal to comment.

Including Johnson's comments in the article helps verify what people suspect about Chris (he made this incident up). Isn't further information/confirmation better than none?

As far as proving the facebook message was not some photoshop, I'm still offering Champ access to the acount so that I can prove I am not doctoring things (and if I was wouldn't you expect the details to be a lot juicier?)--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 17:41, 25 June 2012 (PDT)
::: Seriously, why are you trying so hard for this? I'm pretty sure anyone who reads what Chris thinks about Bruce would naturally assume that Bruce didn't actually touch Chris inappropriately and that Chris's screams were not recorded for Bruce's amusement... --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:15, 25 June 2012 (PDT)
:::I've already explained myself. What is the harm in including it?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 06:46, 26 June 2012 (PDT)

So would you like the account info? I'd like to definitively prove that this is real and move on.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 17:26, 27 June 2012 (PDT)

* I don't think anyone doubts that you received the message, the uncertainty lies in whether the account you received it from is genuine which cannot be proved by someone logging into your FB account. And also whether it's important enough to go on the CWCki anyway. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 02:07, 28 June 2012 (PDT)

The what's wrong with the wording Champ suggested, "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..."? We've already established that there's an incredibly slim chance that it's a fake account, and this would reflect that small margin of error.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 06:41, 28 June 2012 (PDT)

* Ehhhh ... I'm still inclined to basically agree with Champ in the respect that this isn't really all that important and we're not losing out on anything major by not including it. I too also wonder why you're so insistent on this. Is this really so important that it's been worth the eight days of discussion thus far? That it's worth giving your Facebook info to someone to prove the authenticity of a point that is almost unanimously considered too minor to really be worth the effort? Which to me, I might add, seems an awful lot like something -Chris- would do, or would have done in the past. Honestly, the more you insist on having this put in the CWCki, the more skeptical I am and the more I feel that, for you, this is less about documenting things related to Chris and more about trying to boost your cred and adding more contributions to your credit. Or, like Champ already pointed out, trying to get into PVCC. Near as I can figure, the only one who is determined to see this in the CWCki is you. --[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 12:52, 28 June 2012 (PDT)
**This. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:39, 29 June 2012 (PDT)

*Alright fine, you don't want it, I'll stop pushing it. Champ can you let me back on the message board? I didn't violate any rules and it's been two weeks already.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:05, 29 June 2012 (PDT)
:*You broke the rule about being a sperg. If you wanna go talk about Chris, why not try /cwc/? I'm sure they'll love you there.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:45, 29 June 2012 (PDT)
:*That's okay I'm content without being a member of either and just editing the cwicki.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 19:08, 30 June 2012 (PDT)

====Help me out.====

I want to put this up as the video of the now but I'm not sure how. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r868reAYD4&feature=g-u-u[[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]]

== Ban [[User:Ireece1|this fag]] ==
You won't make me a mod, so get on it. Reason is vandalism. Check his user contributions. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 09:23, 31 August 2012 (PDT)
*Not seeing it, all he did was say that 789chan was down (it's not anymore). Not sure what you're talking about.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:35, 31 August 2012 (PDT)
*He implied a permanent closure when there was none. So my mistake, not vandalism. Inserting false information into pages. Still ban him. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 12:05, 31 August 2012 (PDT)
:*/cwc/ was down for a while and had a domain parking site in its place, it'd be easy to assume it's closed. A hasty assumption, but not inserting false information. Just revert since it's not the case and move on.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:01, 31 August 2012 (PDT)
::* *stress sigh* Fine. I'll let it go this time. But I still believe you're not nearly harsh enough. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:53, 2 September 2012 (PDT)

== banned ==

My IP is permabanned on the CWCki forum...this was the reason: "Multiple Ban Evasions - Keep Your Cool :) " I was told to come here and grovel before you.

User talk:Champthom

2012-08-31T19:05:42Z

Old meme: /* Ban this fag */

User talk:Champthom

2012-08-31T16:23:53Z

Old meme:

/cow/

2012-08-31T16:21:38Z

Old meme: Epin trollan brah.

[[Image:Redbackground.jpg|thumb|All it took was words and a red gradient to keep Chris away]]
{{Quote|Would you fuck me, 789chan? I'd fuck me.|Chris, [[It's not that cold]]}}
:''[[cwc]] redirects here. For other uses, see [[Christian Weston Chandler (disambiguation)|the disambiguation page.]]''
'''/cwc/''' (aka '''Krapple''', '''Legi0n''' or '''789chan''') is an image board dedicated to [[Chris]] and other lolcows.

[[Ivy]] has alleged that Chris had discovered the site, based on a tip off from a successful [[white knight]], but his response was that the [[CWCipedia|colors]] [[CWC's Sonichu Site!|bothered]] him and that there were "[[Autism|too many words]]."

Chris made direct reference to the 789chan incarnation of /cwc/ in the video [[It's not that cold]], asking if they'd fuck him. In the video, he also pretends to dig up his dead dog [[Patti Chandler]] and wear her as a coat. This is also a reference to the /cwc/ board, as a vocal minority of users in Legi0n era /cwc/ kept suggesting that the [[trolls]] should hire a [[Tomgirl|tranny hooker]] to dig up Patti, as a way of trolling Chris. How much Chris actually knows about 789chan or whether or not he browses the board remains to be seen.

== History ==
[[Image:anonchris.jpg|thumb|Typical /cwc/ user]]
/cwc/ was originally set up on the Krapple board, but on 1 [[November 2009]], /cwc/, as well as the entire board, was permanently deleted for CEO having ''terabytes'' of [[anime]] on server space. It was brought back soon after on a spin-off chan on Legi0n. Legi0n also later shut down due to some drama with some of its admins in [[August 2010]], and the board was moved once more to 789chan, where it is currently hosted. While hosted at 789chan, /cwc/ was re-purposed as a general lolcows board rather than a Chris-centric one, though Chris still remains the most popular topic and the board's namesake.

==Derivative boards==
Due to the high volume of posts on /cwc/, the Legi0n staff decided to create additional, more specific chris-related boards. '''/cxc/''' (fanfics and copypastas), '''/kcwc/''' (chris-related songs/music videos), '''/CWCrt/''' (trolling schemes), and''' /library/''' (to archive threads of major importance). The move to 789chan eventually dropped all of these boards, while adding /L/ in place of /library/.

==Other==
/cwc/ also operated an IRC channel and a dedicated trolling wiki back in the Legi0n days. The wiki and IRC channel have both since shut down, but 789chan now runs a new IRC located [irc://irc.789chan.org:6667/789chan here].

== External links ==
*[http://789chan.org/cwc/ /cwc/'s current incarnation]
*[http://789chan.org/L/ /L/, archived threads]
*[irc://irc.789chan.org:6667/789chan 789chan IRC, the new /cwc/ channel]
*[http://encyclopediadramatica.se/Legi0n Archived ED article on Legi0n]

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Talk:A-Logs

2012-08-05T11:35:24Z

Old meme:

My Little Pony

2012-07-15T10:57:03Z

Old meme: MLP will never ever be cool. Deal with it.

{{taxpayermoney}}

[[Image:Chris_Chan_Pony.png|thumb|Chris Chan: The original brony]]
'''My Little Pony''' (MLP) is a line of [[toys]] and animated programs intended for girls aged 4-8. Chris picked up an interest in the franchise after being introduced to it by [[Megan]] in [[2007]], buying several of the toys as well as making custom-made My Little Pony dolls for his friends. He has since developed an interest in the "[[wikipedia:My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic|My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic]]" cartoon.

==Chris and ponies==
[[File:Poorcamo.jpg|thumb|left|One of Chris's ponies, as seen in his [[bedroom]].]]

The homemade ponies vary between being blatant ripoffs of [[anime]] characters, most notably the titular character from ''[[wikipedia:Naruto|Naruto]]'' and [[Wikipedia:Edward Elric|Edward Elric]] from ''[[Wikipedia:Fullmetal Alchemist|Fullmetal Alchemist]]'', and horrible [[Wikipedia:Mary Sue|Mary Sues]] such as [[Cherokee|Cheroki-Chan]], who is clearly based on the [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|comic-book version of Chris]], and Crystal, [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|whose origin is obvious]].

In his infamous [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|FUTURE MESSAGE]], Chris first made his love of My Little Pony known when he recommended to all his viewers that they buy MLP figures of their favorite color to stroke and rub against their cheek, claiming that it was "very therapeutic" and that one could talk to the ponies and pretend that they were girls they wanted to ask out, to help them build confidence. At the time, this was viewed as a very revealing aspect of Chris's life, earning him the mockery of [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] and [[4chan]] yet again.

In [[CWC Update 18 March 2009 More Updated|Captain's Log, Stardate March 18th, 2009]], you can see his My Little Ponys hanging from his ceiling.

One of the latest known references to MLP made by Chris was on the [[Tomboys and Tomgirls of Virginia]] forum, where Chris used a picture of Applejack from the more recent ''[[wikipedia:My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic|My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic]]'' animated series as his avatar, although his screen name was modeled after the name of another major character in the series- [[Rainbow|Rainbow Dash]].

[[Image:ponyboy.jpg|thumb|Applejack as Chris's avatar on [[Tomboys and Tomgirls of Virginia]].]]

A ''Friendship is Magic'' Rainbow Dash toy can be sighted in the background of "[[Correction_of_EX_relationship_status|Correction of EX relationship status]]" and a My Little Pony sticker can be seen on Chris's [[3DS]] in the [[Wristwatch-SwissWatch for Jeremy "Thorg"|Wristwatch-SwissWatch]] video.

Chris also has a ''Friendship is Magic'' playlist on his [[YouTube]] account that includes all the episodes, confirming once and for all his love for a children's show.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL20EBD1B6E8BB9E6F Chris's ''My Little Pony - Friendship is Magic'' playlist on YouTube]</ref> Considering [[Ghostbusters|his]] [[Transformers|previous]] [[Pokemon|track]] [[The Adventures of the American Rabbit|record]], it's not exactly surprising. In the [[Facebook]] note he made on the 31st March, 2012, he complains about "gum gabbing gossip columnists working for a corrupt editor", which is the plot for the episode [http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Ponyville_Confidential "Ponyville Confidential"] (which aired not too long before the note was made), the giveaway being that the ''nom de plume'' used in the episode was 'Gabby Gums'.

On 24 [[April 2012]], Chris wrote a note on his [[Facebook]], calling for the rescue of the MLP:FiM character "Derpy Hooves", a character who is characterized by her googly eyes and [[Slow-in-the-mind|slow method of thinking]]. However, Chris saw it as a vehicle to gain more pity towards him by sympathizing with a character that had a sort of disability.

On the 26 [[June 2012]], Chris whined about dark pony related media on his [[Facebook]] via [[Twitter]]. He mentioned watching an animated adaption of the [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cupcakes-my-little-pony-fanfiction Cupcakes] fanfiction and the "SHED" instalment of the [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ponymov .MOV series]. He took particular offence at Rainbow Dash - a tomboyish character - being killed, which is featured in both videos, and wondered if people did it because they hate Tomboys/Tomgirls.
He went on to rant about the [[Lie|"Dark Parodies" being the reason behind his writer's block]], before descending into a tirade of hatred against people in general.
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==Cutie mark==

In the [[Forgot the Glitter|new videos]] released on [[February_2012|Feb 25th]], Chris was spotted showing off a drawing on his left thigh which he calls his "cutie mark". It is the combination of the male and female symbol, surprisingly ''not'' having anything to do with [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] for once. It does not seem to be a real tattoo, but instead is drawn on, most likely with his [[Chris and Art|felt-tip pens]].

In the ''My Little Pony'' universe, a cutie mark is a symbol representing an individual pony's special talent and interest. Chris's special talent, it seems, is being a [[tomgirl]]. Considering [[Chris and art|most]] [[Chris and music|other]] [[Spanish|things]] [[Chris and writing|Chris]] [[Chris and cosplaying|has]] [[Sonichu (comic)|tried]] and almost always failed at, it's still not all that surprising.

==In the comics==
[[File:Ponywed.jpg|thumb|Show this to any father with a young daughter and he'd probably think she made it. Purposely bad.]]

Like any eight-year-old girl with the hopes of marrying a blue prince in a fairytale wedding with her BFF pony by her side, [[Wedding_Comic|Sonichu Special 2]] reveals to its unfortunate readers that Chris might have harbored similar thoughts, as his ideal wedding also features a My Little Pony.

After having received a blessing from the best [wo]man [[Sarah Hammer]], the recently united Chris and [[Ivy]] leave the church where the wedding was held in a carriage pulled by what many trolls speculate to be a badly-drawn [[Wikipedia:List_of_My_Little_Pony characters#Rainbow_Dash|Rainbow Dash]], which is harnessed to the carriage with what appears to be the Boulder Badge from [[Pokémon]].

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==Gallery==
<center>
{| class="wikitable collapsible" width="600"
! colspan="4"|The Gallery of My Little Pony Straightness
|-
!Chris' creation
!Original
![[Card games|TCG card]]
!Notes
|-
|[[File:03-CWC Cheroki-Chan1.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Cheroki-Chan
|[[File:Chero.jpg|frameless|center|120px|text-bottom]] Pony in Seaspray Pose
|[[File:01-Cheroki-Chan_Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]][[File:02-Cheroki-Chan Card2.jpg|120px|center|text-bottom]][[File:159-ChrokiChan.jpg|120px|center|text-bottom]]
|Chris's depiction of himself as a pony...or rather, a horse- [[Chris and his Ego|too awesome to be a common pony]]. Just as Chris, Cheroki-Chan has a few [[Autism|quirks]], likes to [[Chris and art|draw and color]], but above all, he is [[Rape|noble and honorable]]. Cheroki-Chan [[Semen|"creams"]] of finding a [[sweetheart]] for himself, yet is having problems, mainly from being rejected once by that [[Chris and race|multi-green pony]], possibly [[Megan|camouflaged]].
|-
|[[File:07-CWC Camo-Flage.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Camo-Flage
|[[File:Camo.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]] Pony in [[Wikipedia:List_of_My_Little_Pony_characters#Rainbow_Dash|Rainbow Dash]] pose
|[[File:06-Camo-Flage Card.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]]
|Posible representation of [[Megan Schroeder]]. She [[Friend Zone|rejected]] Cheroki-Chan's advances, and she is Jonhlamence's little sister.<ref>[[:File:12-Johnlamence Card.jpg]]</ref>
|-
|[[File:49-CWC Mimmbo Bo Boruto.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Mimmbo Bo Boruto
|[[File:Mimmbo.jpg|frameless|center|120px|text-bottom]] Pony in [[Wikipedia:List_of_My_Little_Pony_characters#Rainbow_Dash|Rainbow Dash]] pose
|[[File:48-Mimmbo Bo Boruto Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|Custom pony based on and made for [[Daniel Mimms]]. ''[[Wikipedia:Naruto|Naruto]]'' is another inspiration.
|-
|[[File:46-CWC Squall Metal Alchamest.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] [[Wikipedia:Full Metal Alchemist|Squall Metal Alchamest]]
|[[File:Squall.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Pony in [[Wikipedia:List_of_My_Little_Pony_characters#Rainbow_Dash|Rainbow Dash]] pose
|[[File:45-Squall Metal Alchemest Card.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]]
|An inter-dimensional pony with [[Barbara|motherly]] issues. Based on [[Wikipedia:Edward Elric|Edward Elric]] from ''[[Wikipedia:Fullmetal Alchemist|Fullmetal Alchemist]],'' though part of the name may come from Squall Leonhart of Final Fantasy 8.
|-
|[[File:10-CWC Crystal.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Crystal
|[[File:Crys.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]] Pony Cutie Keen Bean
|[[File:09-Crystal Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|Commemorative pony of [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]], Chris's future daughter.
|-
|[[File:13-CWC Johnlamence.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Jonhlamence's cyberwarrior
|[[File:Sala.jpg|frameless|center|120px|text-bottom]] Pony in Rarity Unicorn Pose
|[[File:12-Johnlamence Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|Camo-flage's older brother combined with the [[Pokémon]] [[Wikipedia:List of Pokémon (320–386)#Salamence|Salamence]].
|-
|[[File:18-CWC Ty Game2.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Ty Game
|[[File:ty_game.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]] Pony in Rainbow Swirl Pose
|[[File:16-Ty Game Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|[[Video games|Gamer]] Pony.
|-
|[[File:22-CWC Bee-Riana.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Bee Riana
|[[File:Bee reana (yellow with the antena.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Ponies Toola-Roola (left) and Meadowbrook (right)
|[[File:21-Bee-Riana Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|When he bought the two-Ponies-set, Chris took Toola-Roola's antennae and put them on Meadowbrook to create Bee-Riana. [[Chris and Sex|Toola-Roola hasn't been seen since]].
|-
|[[File:26-CWC Educait.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Educait
|[[File:Edu.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]] Pony in Sunny Daze Pose
|[[File:25-Educait Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|A nerdy Pony. It is of the [[Wallflower]] type.
|-
|[[File:30-CWC Honeysumerah.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Honeysumerah
|[[File:Honey.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]] Pony in Sweet Breeze Pose
|[[File:29-Honeysumerah Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|Based on a [[Britney Spears|shallow Pop Star]]. "Stickler for a tickler" comes from a throwaway ''[[Family Guy]]'' gag, from [[Wikipedia:When You Wish Upon a Weinstein|"When You Wish Upon a Weinstein"]].
|-
|[[File:33-CWC_Modest_Manna.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Modest Manna
|[[File:Modest.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Pony in Sweet Breeze Pose
|[[File:32-Modest Manna Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|[[Anna McLerran|Mormon]] pony.
|-
|[[File:36-CWC Linnhadey.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Linnhadey
|[[File:Lin.jpg|frameless|center|120px|text-bottom]] Pony in Beachberry Pose
|[[File:35-Linnhadey Card.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]]
|'[[Autism|Unique]] and [[McDonalds|Lovin' it]]' Pony.
|-
|[[File:43-CWC Federico.JPG|frameless|center|120px|text-bottom]] Federico
|[[File:Fede.jpg|frameless|center|120px|text-bottom]] Pony in Beachberry Pose
|[[File:42-Federico Card.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]]
|[[Spanish]] Pony. He is annoying because "chicos are chicos." From the rest of his description is impossible to find meaning, both English or Spanish wise.
|-
|[[File:39-CWC Buttonbeck.JPG|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]] [[Nudes|Butt]]onbeck
|[[File:Bottom beck.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]] Pony in Diva Pose
|[[File:38-Buttonbeck Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|[[Rosechu|Generic soulless and flavorless]] Pony.
|}
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==See also ==
*[[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE]]
*[[List of toys]]

==References==
<references />

==External links==
*[[Wikipedia:My Little Pony|My Little Pony]] at [[Wikipedia]]
*<s> [http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F12XOB4B Chris's MLP collection photoset download] </s> - Dead link.

[[Category:Hobbies]]
[[Category:Toys]]

User talk:Champthom

2012-06-29T12:39:04Z

Old meme: /* My thoughts */

Talk to me.

Be sure to check out the archives as well:

'''Archive:''' [[User:Champthom/Archive 1|1]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 2|2]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 3|3]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 4|4]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 5|5]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 6|6]]

== Champ, I mean it now ==
When I come on here and see that people like [[User talk:Steve Landcleamer|this mouthbreather]] have been fucking with pages while being told not to and spamming pictures of furry porn that we for some reason allow on here, and yet I have the power to neither delete the image or ban the sperg, it cuts me deep. I'm on here often enough and I've already contributed a lot to the wiki. Can you throw some Jerkop powers my way so I can sort this shit out in future? We don't have nearly enough active mods and this place seems to have this kind of shit all the time. I mean this seriously Champ, I think the CWCki could benefit a lot from more Jerkops. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:09, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
:Before you answer him, Champ, keep in mind that I've also been here a long time and am also actively contributing; so if you decided to give Old meme jerkop rights, I sure would appreciate receiving them as well. Just saying. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 09:24, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

*You both make good points. Could you point out the furry image though, the only image I've seen by him is that picture of Chris ejaculating on Anna's face, which I've incidentally deleted because I don't think it really improves the Anna article. Anyways, about quality in general - I've discussed this issue with Anonymax, and this goes for the both of you, that as regular users you have all the tools needed to improve the quality of the CWCki. If there's an incidence such as an edit war going on, you're welcome to ask any of the admins to step in to resolve the issue. For these reasons, I don't think it's needed to add more jerkops or admins for these reasons. However, if it ever got out of control, then I would consider making someone a quality control jerkop to enforce quality standards. However, I think for the most part you all have the tools you need, just keep making good edits and reverting shit like you have been doing and I think that should be sufficient.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:11, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
**He's probably talking about [[:Image:Sonichu.jpg|this picture]], which was spammed on [[CWCki:Privacy policy]]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 23:46, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

== Deletion of Fail; Effects ==

Would it be necessary to organize a project of some kind to remove red "fail" pipes from pages across the CWCki? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 11:27, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
*[http://www.sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Fail&limit=500 Here they all are]. Clean them at your leisure. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 11:57, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
:[[User:Anonybot|Anonybot]] is working on it. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 14:41, 23 April 2012 (PDT)

Fail article deleted, stupid page names corrected, Champ finally got around to deleting the furry porn. It's been a good week. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:39, 24 April 2012 (PDT)
*At least SOMEONE is happy.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:18, 25 April 2012 (PDT)

==Why did you delete the article on Kim?==
She is as notable as any of the gal pals, and all the info IS public, coming from the Kacey calls.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:03, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know the Kim from the Kacey calls is the same Kim Wilson? Kim is a fairly common name. You're also assuming a lot of things, like Kim is ScarletSanctum when you have no proof of that, and you're including a lot of things that are rumors like how some apology video was because Kim was upset. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:04, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

*1. Chris states her name is Kim Wilson in one of the Kacey calls.
*2. ScarletSanctum is Kim's youtube handle, as stated in [[SingStar Challenge]].
*3. Chris addresses in that video that he upset Kim and Kacey with the previous video.

And if the name was an issue why not just redirect the page to "Kim"?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:17, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know that ScarletSanctum is Kim? Does Chris explicitly mention it? Also does Chris specifically say Kim in that video in that it upset her? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:23, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

Chris does explicitly mention it. Look at this dialouge in [[Kacey Call 1]]:
*Chris: Yeah. So you know uh, Kim, you know uh, how she, uh, yeah you know, uh, Kim, I actually heard that Kim and her friend Logan actually live in the Charlton area close to the downtown mall, you know? So if you ever wanted to look her up and, you know, just talk to her, you know, find about more about the impostor for me, or you know, see what her opinion of me is on the Internet from her point of view...
*Kacey: Oh, you want me to do some undercover stuff? Chris, that is so sweet of you! You know how much I wanted to get involved.
*Chris: Oh yeah, sure. You know that ScarletSanctum account? That's hers.
*Kacey: Okay, no, I will totally, totally message her. It's Kim Woods, you said?
*Chris: No, Kim Wilson. Totally. Message her, talk to her all about me.

As far as making the video in response to offending Kim, he also implicitly states this:

"Uh, I dedicate this video to uh, Logan. Boyfriend of my gal-pal, Kim. Yeah, anyway uh, I've--I just wanted to uh, apologize for uh...offending you in anyway"

He could also be referring to offending Logan, but either way why through the baby out with the bathwater?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:35, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*Let me think about it. In the meantime, I've made a [[User:Steve Landcleamer/Kim|subpage]] for you in the meantime.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:39, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

So is there any hold up or is the page good to go? I've answered all your questions and it seems to meet all the requirements.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:32, 5 May 2012 (PDT)
*Don't you think it might be a little bit imprudent to make a page about Kim?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:58, 5 May 2012 (PDT)

*Why would it be imprudent? All the information is public and sourced. All the other gal pals have pages, so what would the problem be?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 18:37, 5 May 2012 (PDT)

*Well?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:39, 7 May 2012 (PDT)
*Good God, first learn some patience, this isn't a life and death issue. Second of all, let me put it this way - in your own words, the supposed Kim calls are unreleased. Why do you think that is?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:18, 8 May 2012 (PDT)

Because "she"'s obviously still trying to troll Chris. Regardless, that's beside the point, while the calls haven't been released, all the information in the article has. You initially deleted it under the guise that is was "Not notable, not based on public information", but we both know that that's clearly not the cause. My page seemed to meet all the guidelines, so based on Cwicki guidelines, what is objectionable about it?

I'm sorry if I seem impatient, I just find this quelling of already public information to be pretty ridiculous and counter productive to the CWCki.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 14:43, 8 May 2012 (PDT)
*Based on my discussions with Canine and Anonymax, I have decided to restore the article. Remember, the CWCki is form Chris's POV so Kim isn't a troll, she has not publicly declared herself to be a troll to Chris. I'd also avoid posting on /cwc/ and CWCki Forums when you make an article on a delicate topic like this.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:09, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

===If I may step in and say a piece===
I know I may not be towing the party line by saying this Champ, but Land has a point here. This is all information that was technically on the wiki anyway, just in out of the way places. Personally, I have no problem with covering things up for trolling purposes, because I understand the need to do so and I'm not one to whine about dang dirty stonecutters, but we have information on Kim here already. I don't care which side of the fence you're on Champ, I'll just go with what you say, but you've got to at least be consistent. Either allow the article outright, or if you object to some of the content in the article being made public, censor it and then allow the censored version to be posted. Your decision is final and no-one would be able to stop you, so I don't know what you're worried about. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:22, 9 May 2012 (PDT)
*True, I realize this, but the issue is that there's a good reason that Kim doesn't already have an article, mostly for [[A_Quick_Guide_to_CWCki#Privacy|privacy reasons]] which is indeed already covered. I'm trying to convey that subtly. Remember, Chris reads the CWCki, and loose lips sink ships. I don't think "we" released the Kacey calls, Canine tells me it was all dropped by Liquid's twin brother so it's not like we were able to filter through everything to see if anything was objectionable.

:This is a difficult decision and I need to discuss it with Canine a bit more, unfortunately we have conflicting schedules so I'll try and catch him tonight.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:31, 9 May 2012 (PDT)

==Chris's POV==
*Thank you for restoring the Kim article. I am wondering something concerning what you said about the cwicki supposed to be from Chris's point of view. Why do articles like [[Obesity]] state that Chris is fat? He's said multiple times that he does not think he is. There are lots of other examples like this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 17:07, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

[[Chris and reality]] would be the best example of this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 18:13, 11 May 2012 (PDT)
::We go by what Chris thinks/says unless we have decent evidence to the contrary. With his obesity, we have more than enough evidence to support this. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:04, 12 May 2012 (PDT)

==Permanently Banned from Message Board==
I really don't understand this at all. Please respond to the email I sent you.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:21, 6 May 2012 (PDT)

Never mind one of the other mods took care of this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:39, 7 May 2012 (PDT)

== Comms ==

I'm on IRC a lot and today is my day off work so if you're around so am I! --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 02:19, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

== can I help? ==
Hey I have a capture card that does 720p,1800p,ect and wanted to know if I could use it to help (lbp videos,screen shots) does anything need to be rerecorded? also I'm moving soon so if you could say something in the next week or so (before I have to pack my computer up) that would be great. [[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]] 09:14, 1 June 2012 (PDT)
* Sorry it took a day to get back to you, just had to think as I do appreciate your gumption. To be honest though, I can't think of anything in particular, BUT that's just to the best of my knowledge. Head over to [[CWCki:General|the community portal]] and ask there, there might be some people to have some ideas. Just do me one teensy favor - be sure to sign your posts (that's four ~ in a row) so we know who you are when you post. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:29, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
* thanks! [[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]] 09:14, 1 June 2012 (PDT)

==Bruce Johnson==
The Bruce Johnson thing is real. I don't even care about the PVCC anymore. I just want you to know I'm not making up what I added to the cwicki. Would you like a wider screenshot of the facebook convo?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 19:26, 20 June 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know it's the real Bruce Johnson? Or rather, why should we trust you? I could easily have made a Bruce Johnson account to fool you. Even if it is real, do we really need it? All it boils down to is Johnson saying he's not a pedophile contrary to what Chris said. Is this really a startling revelation, that Chris said something negative about someone and it's not true? Do we really need to confirm this, in light of Chris's history? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:36, 20 June 2012 (PDT)
*'Sup bitches, guess who's back? Champy, thought I'd drop in to tell you that under the "no shit is too minor" policy, (which you should really get rid of if it enrages you so), we do indeed need to confirm everything if possible. That said this is still probably bullshit, and confirming this still isn't your job. If you want my two cents, give Landcleamer a chance to convince you of its authenticity at least. I'm sure you have high standards for what you'd accept as convincing proof, so either someone else will go out of their way to contribute something valid, or he can fail to do so and you can say no again. Worst case scenario, Steve Landcleamer turns out to be the weenest of ween trolls and goes through a lot of work to convince you of something fairly inconsequential that can be removed if it later turns out to be fake anyway. The way I see it, this isn't a real problem for you either way. Let the monkey dance. Also, your insulting summaries were hilarious. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 02:12, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
:*I forgot to add in the summary that our friend Steve here wanted to be let into PVCC on the basis of this "startling" revelation. As I've said before, "no shit is too minor" should mean that we don't overlook things, not that we need to get third party confirmation on everything. Anyone who's familiar with Chris knows that his memory isn't totally accurate and he's been known to bullshit. Given that Chris has called Michael Synder a Jew, does this mean we have to contact Michael Synder and confirm whether or not he is a Jew? Do we need to contact Mary Lee Walsh to make sure she's not in fact secretly a witch planning on banning true love from Virginia? It should be pretty obvious that Johnson probably isn't a pedophile, and what does his admission of not being a pedophile say? He could be lying for all we know, I'm not saying he's a pedophile, he probably isn't, but his admission of not being a pedophile shouldn't be startling. I mean, did you expect him to say "Chris got me, I'm a kiddy piddler, I love little boys and molesting them as they sit on my lap and I do horrible profane things to them." Of course the answer is "no," why do we need to have confirmation of this?
::As I've said before, I don't like people bothering Chris tangentially related to Chris about stuff. I think having known Chris is punishment enough, it doesn't help to have epic ween trolls like Steve here think they're gonna get into PVCC on the basis of harassing these people and asking them for information about Chris. I think it's pretty damn weird and spergy to do this, that is to contact people with tangential relations to Chris and ask them details about Chris. Someone on the CWCki Forums is like "No, it's not weird, it's just like liking any celebrity like the Kardashians." Here's the thing - I don't think celebrity magazines are hunting down the lady who served one of those Kardashian people coffee and doing a full length interview. It's bizarre, I would be weirded out if some person went up to and wanted me to tell them everything I know about some person I vaguely remember from years ago.
::This isn't exactly someone who served Chris coffee, it's a major figure in Christory.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
::Burden of proof is on Steve and he's on shakey ground. I don't trust him one bit. I don't like having things that could very easily be false on the CWCki because it hurts our reputation and people already distrust the CWCki as it is, I don't need to give them more reason to distrust it. I don't want to give people an incentive to make up fake bullshit and post it on the CWCki with the thought they'll be declared an epic ween troll for getting "new" "content" and that they'll get into PVCC and that mommy and daddy will finally love them because they'll no longer be wastes of human flesh.
::You have to REALLY convince me here, Steve. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:18, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Hey, no objections from me. Steve wants to dig up trivial information to try and get into PVCC, that's his business. It's not like it would at all harm the CWCki to put up a single quote from the man if it does turn out to be true. Though really, you need to do something about the abundance of ween trolls trying to get into PVCC, or even just normal idiots desperately begging for it, like 16BitAlex. Maybe the guys in the forum itself or on IRC get a good laugh out of them, but I personally just get depressed when I see people like Stevey-boy cluttering the CWCki recent changes, desperately pursuing some unattainable goal by making bullshit edits and whining as hard as possible on talk pages. It wastes your time, it wastes mine, it's rather sad, and it's not even entertaining enough for the guys on /cwc/ to get more than a single thread from it. All in all, a pathetic affair for all involved. I would suggest temp-banning Pipecleaner if he continues to make a nuisance of himself after this, under your "Drama whoring" clause. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:13, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Champ, you have my email. This might be a dumb idea on my part, but I'm willing to give you the facebook login information so you can see the message for yourself. I'm willing to trust you to not fuck with the account, just to go into the private messages and verify the authenticity. After that can I be allowed back to the cwicki forum, under the understanding that I'll never ask to join the PVCC again?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 07:50, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*I think /cwc/ has made a good point, a point I have, is that - what did you expect him to say? Of course he's going to say he didn't molest Chris, even if he did molest Chris he's not going to admit it to some stranger. So having him say that he didn't do it isn't saying much, because either way he'll deny it and that really doesn't add anything to the discussion. And like I said, given Chris's background, we know he exaggerates things, and that his recollection of events aren't always the most reliable, do we need to actually get confirmation of this?
:::Ignoring the issue you wanted to get into PVCC, I don't see what it really adds to the discussion. I also don't want to encourage people to hassle people connected to Chris to get information.
:::If people feel like it absolutely, positively must remain in the article, I'd say something like "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..." or something like that so people can interpret it however they please. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:38, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Alright, can we keep it in under that wording?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 06:34, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::* How do we even know it was from Bruce anyway? I'm not doubting Steve Landcleamer has a message on his facebook, I'm 100% sure that if anyone where to get onto his facebook they would find said message...I'm doubting that it's Bruce. People have been faking to be people Chris knows for quite a while (like Megan), this wouldn't be a first.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 09:10, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Why would someone make an entire fake facebook account full of pictures and friends, on the random change that years after its creation someone recognizes them as Chris Chan's old principal, just so they can dish out false information? If that was the case surely they wouldn't have just said that Chris is a liar and insane.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 10:43, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::*May I ask a question? Even if you did successfully contact Chris's old principal, why was the only thing you could ask "R u pedo lol?". The big questions about Chris's time at NGE are "Why was he sent to the principal?", "Why exactly did they record his screams, was it because he was a repeat offender?", "Why was he transferred there from Greene County Primary?", and "Were the principal's lap incident and scream recording incident the same incident?". Any of those would be worth adding to the CWCki, and it would have cleared away most of the fog surrounding the event. Instead you asked for information that everyone already knew. It's like you stumbled into a garden containing hundreds of delicious alien fruits and came back with a half-eaten ordinary banana.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 15:00, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
:::Firstly, if you read the screenshot, you'll see I did ask him what really went down with Chris being sent to his office and having his screams recorded. All Johnson says is Chris is liar. Secondly I figured asking private information out of the blue about a former student would get no answer, by connecting it to the fact that Chris is getting sued by Snyder (who he also claimed was a pedophile), the message comes across as a concerned citizen looking out for Mr. Johnson, rather than some creep obsessed with Chris, and thus got a reply.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 13:56, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
::*I would also add that just because the Facebook profile is full of pictures and friends doesn't mean it isn't fake. It could just be a -really- good fake. The kind of fake that leaves no obvious evidence that makes it easy to discern as a fake. As to why someone would have done it, stranger and less tactically sound things have happened, enough that I can conceive of and not be surprised by someone doing it for exactly the reasons you mentioned, regardless of the lack of point in doing so. -[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 15:17, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
:::I will be happy to provide you a link to the facebook page, along with it's postings dating years back, and you still tell me this is can all be chalked up to an elaborate troll scheme.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
:::*You don't need to. I checked the page in its entirety (at least as much as I had access to) before I posted here, and did again before posting this. I think this is more of a difference of opinion than anything: the factors that convince you that it is real (profile in existence since 2008, existence of friends and wall posts, etc), don't automatically convince me. Like 4Macie said, if this is a fake, it is hardly the first time someone has done it. I'll also reiterate my opinion that a -really- good fake will not have any obvious signs that it is a fake. I'm not saying that the profile is fake, just that there isn't any compelling evidence that it isn't. My official position is that it exists, and people more savvy and/or more connected than I can verify the truth of it all if they choose to. Whether it is or it isn't, I'm inclined to agree with Champthom in that Bruce Johnson not being a pedophile is hardly an earth-shattering surprise. At best, it's just (allegedly) confirming something everybody but Chris already believed to be true. -[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 17:51, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Does anyone object to keeping this info under the wording Champ suggested, "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..."? --[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
:::*I don't think we should put it on here at all until Champthom is convinced it's real. Also; epic ween, brah.. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 03:33, 25 June 2012 (PDT)

===My thoughts===
I think the wrong focus here is whether it's indeed real or not. Supposedly this Facebook profile has been around a while, has plenty of photos, etc. What motive is there for someone to go into such detail and for what purposes? It's pretty easy why someone would want to impersonate someone like Megan or someone Chris knew from high school - so Chris will see these people, decide to talk to them, and they'd then be able to troll Chris. What purpose is there for someone faking Bruce Johnson? Why would Chris decide to contact Bruce Johnson? I can only really imagine Chris deciding 1) to look up Johnson and 2) taking the effort to contact him mostly to say something like "You molested me you pedofork!" and mind you, Chris is pretty lazy so he wouldn't go to that much hassle. So we have to possibilities - 1) someone has planned since 2008 to troll Chris and has created a believable Facebook profile, all for the motive of trolling Chris or 2) it's actually Bruce Johnson. Occam's razor would suggest the latter.

I think the real issue here is - how can we be sure it's real or not? There's no way of knowing whether this is real or not. Are we supposed to take Steve's word for it? What's to stop other people from making similar claims? People love making shit up about Chris and using that as a way to get attention for themselves or in Steve's case, to try and get into PVCC. The CWCki was designed purposely to separate truth and fact and that's why I take this sort of thing seriously, namely that I don't like things of dubious origins to be cited as facts on here.

But also, let's consider - why the hell is this so damn important? I mean, it's just Steve saying "Chris says you're a pedophile" and Johnson says "No I'm not." Is that really startling? Will this totally change the way we look at Chris's claim? You know what? Even if he was a pedophile, do you really expect him to admit to a strange he molested children? So his confession says nothing really. I think that a reader of the CWCki should be familiar with Chris's track record with memory in that he tends to remember things in his favor (like that he was a Pokemon gym leader vs. Lucas and Mimms's claim that he only did it one time when all the regular people were out), plus that [[Wikipedia:Repressed_memory|repressed memories]] in general can be dubious and that it's very easy to construct pseudo-memories. Let's be VERY generous and let's say that Chris was indeed molested by Bruce Johnson. Does this really excuse his homophobia? I'd say no. True, it'd be a more valid reason than thinking that you can "turn" gay but I think that really only justifies not liking one particular gay person. Let's say a black person robs me - does this justify me being racist to all black people? No, that'd be silly, just because one particular black person harmed me doesn't mean I should hate blacks as a groups. Same thing applies to Chris and gays.

Side note - Steve, don't break up one of my posts, because it looks like you wrote that whole bit when I in fact did.

In regards to your comment, you're right, this isn't like someone serving coffee - it's much weirder. It's more like if a complete stranger approached you on the street and asked you about the guy who sat two seats in back of you in English class and demanding you tell them every single detail about them. No, Chris isn't a celebrity, he's our bizarre obsession and we need to be honest with ourselves, it's sorta weird. If it wasn't for trolling, Chris would be an ordinary, dull person, albeit with some eccentricities but just an ordinary person who you might look at a few extra seconds if you were to pass him by but not a celebrity by normal standards. If you think it's normal to contact people who vaguely know people from ages ago and ask them for every single detail about said person, they'd probably think you're some sort of stalker or there's something mental with you.

So should we have this tidbit on the article? Like I said, I don't think it really adds anything. If it's generating this much furious debate, I don't think it'd be wise to include it. This isn't about me not being convinced, it's about not convincing the CWCki community as a whole. Like I said, I don't think we're losing out on anything major here.

Those are my thoughts at least. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:20, 25 June 2012 (PDT)

Why not include it? Isn't there an inherent interest to here Johnson's response even though it is what we'd assume it would be? It can only make an article stronger. Take for example a New York Times article about an alleged criminal, it will always make a note that they contacted the accused, even if the person simply replies with a refusal to comment.

Including Johnson's comments in the article helps verify what people suspect about Chris (he made this incident up). Isn't further information/confirmation better than none?

As far as proving the facebook message was not some photoshop, I'm still offering Champ access to the acount so that I can prove I am not doctoring things (and if I was wouldn't you expect the details to be a lot juicier?)--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 17:41, 25 June 2012 (PDT)
::: Seriously, why are you trying so hard for this? I'm pretty sure anyone who reads what Chris thinks about Bruce would naturally assume that Bruce didn't actually touch Chris inappropriately and that Chris's screams were not recorded for Bruce's amusement... --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:15, 25 June 2012 (PDT)
:::I've already explained myself. What is the harm in including it?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 06:46, 26 June 2012 (PDT)

So would you like the account info? I'd like to definitively prove that this is real and move on.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 17:26, 27 June 2012 (PDT)

* I don't think anyone doubts that you received the message, the uncertainty lies in whether the account you received it from is genuine which cannot be proved by someone logging into your FB account. And also whether it's important enough to go on the CWCki anyway. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 02:07, 28 June 2012 (PDT)

The what's wrong with the wording Champ suggested, "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..."? We've already established that there's an incredibly slim chance that it's a fake account, and this would reflect that small margin of error.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 06:41, 28 June 2012 (PDT)

* Ehhhh ... I'm still inclined to basically agree with Champ in the respect that this isn't really all that important and we're not losing out on anything major by not including it. I too also wonder why you're so insistent on this. Is this really so important that it's been worth the eight days of discussion thus far? That it's worth giving your Facebook info to someone to prove the authenticity of a point that is almost unanimously considered too minor to really be worth the effort? Which to me, I might add, seems an awful lot like something -Chris- would do, or would have done in the past. Honestly, the more you insist on having this put in the CWCki, the more skeptical I am and the more I feel that, for you, this is less about documenting things related to Chris and more about trying to boost your cred and adding more contributions to your credit. Or, like Champ already pointed out, trying to get into PVCC. Near as I can figure, the only one who is determined to see this in the CWCki is you. --[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 12:52, 28 June 2012 (PDT)
**This. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:39, 29 June 2012 (PDT)

File talk:Difficult time lady.jpg

2012-06-28T08:23:17Z

Old meme: Created page with "If Chris has been aggravated by this woman enough to put her picture on Facebook and subtly suggest that someone should go after her, I think she warrants a mention somewhere ..."

If Chris has been aggravated by this woman enough to put her picture on Facebook and subtly suggest that someone should go after her, I think she warrants a mention somewhere outside of the Facebook page, but I can't really decide where to put such a thing, and I really don't think she warrants her own page either. What do? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 01:23, 28 June 2012 (PDT)

User talk:Champthom

2012-06-25T10:33:37Z

Old meme: /* Bruce Johnson */

Talk to me.

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'''Archive:''' [[User:Champthom/Archive 1|1]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 2|2]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 3|3]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 4|4]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 5|5]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 6|6]]

== Champ, I mean it now ==
When I come on here and see that people like [[User talk:Steve Landcleamer|this mouthbreather]] have been fucking with pages while being told not to and spamming pictures of furry porn that we for some reason allow on here, and yet I have the power to neither delete the image or ban the sperg, it cuts me deep. I'm on here often enough and I've already contributed a lot to the wiki. Can you throw some Jerkop powers my way so I can sort this shit out in future? We don't have nearly enough active mods and this place seems to have this kind of shit all the time. I mean this seriously Champ, I think the CWCki could benefit a lot from more Jerkops. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:09, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
:Before you answer him, Champ, keep in mind that I've also been here a long time and am also actively contributing; so if you decided to give Old meme jerkop rights, I sure would appreciate receiving them as well. Just saying. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 09:24, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

*You both make good points. Could you point out the furry image though, the only image I've seen by him is that picture of Chris ejaculating on Anna's face, which I've incidentally deleted because I don't think it really improves the Anna article. Anyways, about quality in general - I've discussed this issue with Anonymax, and this goes for the both of you, that as regular users you have all the tools needed to improve the quality of the CWCki. If there's an incidence such as an edit war going on, you're welcome to ask any of the admins to step in to resolve the issue. For these reasons, I don't think it's needed to add more jerkops or admins for these reasons. However, if it ever got out of control, then I would consider making someone a quality control jerkop to enforce quality standards. However, I think for the most part you all have the tools you need, just keep making good edits and reverting shit like you have been doing and I think that should be sufficient.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:11, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
**He's probably talking about [[:Image:Sonichu.jpg|this picture]], which was spammed on [[CWCki:Privacy policy]]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 23:46, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

== Deletion of Fail; Effects ==

Would it be necessary to organize a project of some kind to remove red "fail" pipes from pages across the CWCki? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 11:27, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
*[http://www.sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Fail&limit=500 Here they all are]. Clean them at your leisure. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 11:57, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
:[[User:Anonybot|Anonybot]] is working on it. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 14:41, 23 April 2012 (PDT)

Fail article deleted, stupid page names corrected, Champ finally got around to deleting the furry porn. It's been a good week. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:39, 24 April 2012 (PDT)
*At least SOMEONE is happy.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:18, 25 April 2012 (PDT)

==Why did you delete the article on Kim?==
She is as notable as any of the gal pals, and all the info IS public, coming from the Kacey calls.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:03, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know the Kim from the Kacey calls is the same Kim Wilson? Kim is a fairly common name. You're also assuming a lot of things, like Kim is ScarletSanctum when you have no proof of that, and you're including a lot of things that are rumors like how some apology video was because Kim was upset. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:04, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

*1. Chris states her name is Kim Wilson in one of the Kacey calls.
*2. ScarletSanctum is Kim's youtube handle, as stated in [[SingStar Challenge]].
*3. Chris addresses in that video that he upset Kim and Kacey with the previous video.

And if the name was an issue why not just redirect the page to "Kim"?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:17, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know that ScarletSanctum is Kim? Does Chris explicitly mention it? Also does Chris specifically say Kim in that video in that it upset her? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:23, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

Chris does explicitly mention it. Look at this dialouge in [[Kacey Call 1]]:
*Chris: Yeah. So you know uh, Kim, you know uh, how she, uh, yeah you know, uh, Kim, I actually heard that Kim and her friend Logan actually live in the Charlton area close to the downtown mall, you know? So if you ever wanted to look her up and, you know, just talk to her, you know, find about more about the impostor for me, or you know, see what her opinion of me is on the Internet from her point of view...
*Kacey: Oh, you want me to do some undercover stuff? Chris, that is so sweet of you! You know how much I wanted to get involved.
*Chris: Oh yeah, sure. You know that ScarletSanctum account? That's hers.
*Kacey: Okay, no, I will totally, totally message her. It's Kim Woods, you said?
*Chris: No, Kim Wilson. Totally. Message her, talk to her all about me.

As far as making the video in response to offending Kim, he also implicitly states this:

"Uh, I dedicate this video to uh, Logan. Boyfriend of my gal-pal, Kim. Yeah, anyway uh, I've--I just wanted to uh, apologize for uh...offending you in anyway"

He could also be referring to offending Logan, but either way why through the baby out with the bathwater?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:35, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*Let me think about it. In the meantime, I've made a [[User:Steve Landcleamer/Kim|subpage]] for you in the meantime.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:39, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

So is there any hold up or is the page good to go? I've answered all your questions and it seems to meet all the requirements.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:32, 5 May 2012 (PDT)
*Don't you think it might be a little bit imprudent to make a page about Kim?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:58, 5 May 2012 (PDT)

*Why would it be imprudent? All the information is public and sourced. All the other gal pals have pages, so what would the problem be?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 18:37, 5 May 2012 (PDT)

*Well?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:39, 7 May 2012 (PDT)
*Good God, first learn some patience, this isn't a life and death issue. Second of all, let me put it this way - in your own words, the supposed Kim calls are unreleased. Why do you think that is?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:18, 8 May 2012 (PDT)

Because "she"'s obviously still trying to troll Chris. Regardless, that's beside the point, while the calls haven't been released, all the information in the article has. You initially deleted it under the guise that is was "Not notable, not based on public information", but we both know that that's clearly not the cause. My page seemed to meet all the guidelines, so based on Cwicki guidelines, what is objectionable about it?

I'm sorry if I seem impatient, I just find this quelling of already public information to be pretty ridiculous and counter productive to the CWCki.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 14:43, 8 May 2012 (PDT)
*Based on my discussions with Canine and Anonymax, I have decided to restore the article. Remember, the CWCki is form Chris's POV so Kim isn't a troll, she has not publicly declared herself to be a troll to Chris. I'd also avoid posting on /cwc/ and CWCki Forums when you make an article on a delicate topic like this.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:09, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

===If I may step in and say a piece===
I know I may not be towing the party line by saying this Champ, but Land has a point here. This is all information that was technically on the wiki anyway, just in out of the way places. Personally, I have no problem with covering things up for trolling purposes, because I understand the need to do so and I'm not one to whine about dang dirty stonecutters, but we have information on Kim here already. I don't care which side of the fence you're on Champ, I'll just go with what you say, but you've got to at least be consistent. Either allow the article outright, or if you object to some of the content in the article being made public, censor it and then allow the censored version to be posted. Your decision is final and no-one would be able to stop you, so I don't know what you're worried about. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:22, 9 May 2012 (PDT)
*True, I realize this, but the issue is that there's a good reason that Kim doesn't already have an article, mostly for [[A_Quick_Guide_to_CWCki#Privacy|privacy reasons]] which is indeed already covered. I'm trying to convey that subtly. Remember, Chris reads the CWCki, and loose lips sink ships. I don't think "we" released the Kacey calls, Canine tells me it was all dropped by Liquid's twin brother so it's not like we were able to filter through everything to see if anything was objectionable.

:This is a difficult decision and I need to discuss it with Canine a bit more, unfortunately we have conflicting schedules so I'll try and catch him tonight.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:31, 9 May 2012 (PDT)

==Chris's POV==
*Thank you for restoring the Kim article. I am wondering something concerning what you said about the cwicki supposed to be from Chris's point of view. Why do articles like [[Obesity]] state that Chris is fat? He's said multiple times that he does not think he is. There are lots of other examples like this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 17:07, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

[[Chris and reality]] would be the best example of this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 18:13, 11 May 2012 (PDT)
::We go by what Chris thinks/says unless we have decent evidence to the contrary. With his obesity, we have more than enough evidence to support this. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:04, 12 May 2012 (PDT)

==Permanently Banned from Message Board==
I really don't understand this at all. Please respond to the email I sent you.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:21, 6 May 2012 (PDT)

Never mind one of the other mods took care of this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:39, 7 May 2012 (PDT)

== Comms ==

I'm on IRC a lot and today is my day off work so if you're around so am I! --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 02:19, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

== can I help? ==
Hey I have a capture card that does 720p,1800p,ect and wanted to know if I could use it to help (lbp videos,screen shots) does anything need to be rerecorded? also I'm moving soon so if you could say something in the next week or so (before I have to pack my computer up) that would be great. [[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]] 09:14, 1 June 2012 (PDT)
* Sorry it took a day to get back to you, just had to think as I do appreciate your gumption. To be honest though, I can't think of anything in particular, BUT that's just to the best of my knowledge. Head over to [[CWCki:General|the community portal]] and ask there, there might be some people to have some ideas. Just do me one teensy favor - be sure to sign your posts (that's four ~ in a row) so we know who you are when you post. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:29, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
* thanks! [[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]] 09:14, 1 June 2012 (PDT)

==Bruce Johnson==
The Bruce Johnson thing is real. I don't even care about the PVCC anymore. I just want you to know I'm not making up what I added to the cwicki. Would you like a wider screenshot of the facebook convo?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 19:26, 20 June 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know it's the real Bruce Johnson? Or rather, why should we trust you? I could easily have made a Bruce Johnson account to fool you. Even if it is real, do we really need it? All it boils down to is Johnson saying he's not a pedophile contrary to what Chris said. Is this really a startling revelation, that Chris said something negative about someone and it's not true? Do we really need to confirm this, in light of Chris's history? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:36, 20 June 2012 (PDT)
*'Sup bitches, guess who's back? Champy, thought I'd drop in to tell you that under the "no shit is too minor" policy, (which you should really get rid of if it enrages you so), we do indeed need to confirm everything if possible. That said this is still probably bullshit, and confirming this still isn't your job. If you want my two cents, give Landcleamer a chance to convince you of its authenticity at least. I'm sure you have high standards for what you'd accept as convincing proof, so either someone else will go out of their way to contribute something valid, or he can fail to do so and you can say no again. Worst case scenario, Steve Landcleamer turns out to be the weenest of ween trolls and goes through a lot of work to convince you of something fairly inconsequential that can be removed if it later turns out to be fake anyway. The way I see it, this isn't a real problem for you either way. Let the monkey dance. Also, your insulting summaries were hilarious. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 02:12, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
:*I forgot to add in the summary that our friend Steve here wanted to be let into PVCC on the basis of this "startling" revelation. As I've said before, "no shit is too minor" should mean that we don't overlook things, not that we need to get third party confirmation on everything. Anyone who's familiar with Chris knows that his memory isn't totally accurate and he's been known to bullshit. Given that Chris has called Michael Synder a Jew, does this mean we have to contact Michael Synder and confirm whether or not he is a Jew? Do we need to contact Mary Lee Walsh to make sure she's not in fact secretly a witch planning on banning true love from Virginia? It should be pretty obvious that Johnson probably isn't a pedophile, and what does his admission of not being a pedophile say? He could be lying for all we know, I'm not saying he's a pedophile, he probably isn't, but his admission of not being a pedophile shouldn't be startling. I mean, did you expect him to say "Chris got me, I'm a kiddy piddler, I love little boys and molesting them as they sit on my lap and I do horrible profane things to them." Of course the answer is "no," why do we need to have confirmation of this?
::As I've said before, I don't like people bothering Chris tangentially related to Chris about stuff. I think having known Chris is punishment enough, it doesn't help to have epic ween trolls like Steve here think they're gonna get into PVCC on the basis of harassing these people and asking them for information about Chris. I think it's pretty damn weird and spergy to do this, that is to contact people with tangential relations to Chris and ask them details about Chris. Someone on the CWCki Forums is like "No, it's not weird, it's just like liking any celebrity like the Kardashians." Here's the thing - I don't think celebrity magazines are hunting down the lady who served one of those Kardashian people coffee and doing a full length interview. It's bizarre, I would be weirded out if some person went up to and wanted me to tell them everything I know about some person I vaguely remember from years ago.
::This isn't exactly someone who served Chris coffee, it's a major figure in Christory.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
::Burden of proof is on Steve and he's on shakey ground. I don't trust him one bit. I don't like having things that could very easily be false on the CWCki because it hurts our reputation and people already distrust the CWCki as it is, I don't need to give them more reason to distrust it. I don't want to give people an incentive to make up fake bullshit and post it on the CWCki with the thought they'll be declared an epic ween troll for getting "new" "content" and that they'll get into PVCC and that mommy and daddy will finally love them because they'll no longer be wastes of human flesh.
::You have to REALLY convince me here, Steve. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:18, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Hey, no objections from me. Steve wants to dig up trivial information to try and get into PVCC, that's his business. It's not like it would at all harm the CWCki to put up a single quote from the man if it does turn out to be true. Though really, you need to do something about the abundance of ween trolls trying to get into PVCC, or even just normal idiots desperately begging for it, like 16BitAlex. Maybe the guys in the forum itself or on IRC get a good laugh out of them, but I personally just get depressed when I see people like Stevey-boy cluttering the CWCki recent changes, desperately pursuing some unattainable goal by making bullshit edits and whining as hard as possible on talk pages. It wastes your time, it wastes mine, it's rather sad, and it's not even entertaining enough for the guys on /cwc/ to get more than a single thread from it. All in all, a pathetic affair for all involved. I would suggest temp-banning Pipecleaner if he continues to make a nuisance of himself after this, under your "Drama whoring" clause. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:13, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Champ, you have my email. This might be a dumb idea on my part, but I'm willing to give you the facebook login information so you can see the message for yourself. I'm willing to trust you to not fuck with the account, just to go into the private messages and verify the authenticity. After that can I be allowed back to the cwicki forum, under the understanding that I'll never ask to join the PVCC again?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 07:50, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*I think /cwc/ has made a good point, a point I have, is that - what did you expect him to say? Of course he's going to say he didn't molest Chris, even if he did molest Chris he's not going to admit it to some stranger. So having him say that he didn't do it isn't saying much, because either way he'll deny it and that really doesn't add anything to the discussion. And like I said, given Chris's background, we know he exaggerates things, and that his recollection of events aren't always the most reliable, do we need to actually get confirmation of this?
:::Ignoring the issue you wanted to get into PVCC, I don't see what it really adds to the discussion. I also don't want to encourage people to hassle people connected to Chris to get information.
:::If people feel like it absolutely, positively must remain in the article, I'd say something like "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..." or something like that so people can interpret it however they please. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:38, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Alright, can we keep it in under that wording?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 06:34, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::* How do we even know it was from Bruce anyway? I'm not doubting Steve Landcleamer has a message on his facebook, I'm 100% sure that if anyone where to get onto his facebook they would find said message...I'm doubting that it's Bruce. People have been faking to be people Chris knows for quite a while (like Megan), this wouldn't be a first.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 09:10, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Why would someone make an entire fake facebook account full of pictures and friends, on the random change that years after its creation someone recognizes them as Chris Chan's old principal, just so they can dish out false information? If that was the case surely they wouldn't have just said that Chris is a liar and insane.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 10:43, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::*May I ask a question? Even if you did successfully contact Chris's old principal, why was the only thing you could ask "R u pedo lol?". The big questions about Chris's time at NGE are "Why was he sent to the principal?", "Why exactly did they record his screams, was it because he was a repeat offender?", "Why was he transferred there from Greene County Primary?", and "Were the principal's lap incident and scream recording incident the same incident?". Any of those would be worth adding to the CWCki, and it would have cleared away most of the fog surrounding the event. Instead you asked for information that everyone already knew. It's like you stumbled into a garden containing hundreds of delicious alien fruits and came back with a half-eaten ordinary banana.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 15:00, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
:::Firstly, if you read the screenshot, you'll see I did ask him what really went down with Chris being sent to his office and having his screams recorded. All Johnson says is Chris is liar. Secondly I figured asking private information out of the blue about a former student would get no answer, by connecting it to the fact that Chris is getting sued by Snyder (who he also claimed was a pedophile), the message comes across as a concerned citizen looking out for Mr. Johnson, rather than some creep obsessed with Chris, and thus got a reply.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 13:56, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
::*I would also add that just because the Facebook profile is full of pictures and friends doesn't mean it isn't fake. It could just be a -really- good fake. The kind of fake that leaves no obvious evidence that makes it easy to discern as a fake. As to why someone would have done it, stranger and less tactically sound things have happened, enough that I can conceive of and not be surprised by someone doing it for exactly the reasons you mentioned, regardless of the lack of point in doing so. -[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 15:17, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
:::I will be happy to provide you a link to the facebook page, along with it's postings dating years back, and you still tell me this is can all be chalked up to an elaborate troll scheme.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
:::*You don't need to. I checked the page in its entirety (at least as much as I had access to) before I posted here, and did again before posting this. I think this is more of a difference of opinion than anything: the factors that convince you that it is real (profile in existence since 2008, existence of friends and wall posts, etc), don't automatically convince me. Like 4Macie said, if this is a fake, it is hardly the first time someone has done it. I'll also reiterate my opinion that a -really- good fake will not have any obvious signs that it is a fake. I'm not saying that the profile is fake, just that there isn't any compelling evidence that it isn't. My official position is that it exists, and people more savvy and/or more connected than I can verify the truth of it all if they choose to. Whether it is or it isn't, I'm inclined to agree with Champthom in that Bruce Johnson not being a pedophile is hardly an earth-shattering surprise. At best, it's just (allegedly) confirming something everybody but Chris already believed to be true. -[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 17:51, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Does anyone object to keeping this info under the wording Champ suggested, "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..."? --[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
:::*I don't think we should put it on here at all until Champthom is convinced it's real. Also; epic ween, brah.. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 03:33, 25 June 2012 (PDT)

User talk:Champthom

2012-06-21T13:13:43Z

Old meme: /* Bruce Johnson */

Talk to me.

Be sure to check out the archives as well:

'''Archive:''' [[User:Champthom/Archive 1|1]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 2|2]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 3|3]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 4|4]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 5|5]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 6|6]]

== Champ, I mean it now ==
When I come on here and see that people like [[User talk:Steve Landcleamer|this mouthbreather]] have been fucking with pages while being told not to and spamming pictures of furry porn that we for some reason allow on here, and yet I have the power to neither delete the image or ban the sperg, it cuts me deep. I'm on here often enough and I've already contributed a lot to the wiki. Can you throw some Jerkop powers my way so I can sort this shit out in future? We don't have nearly enough active mods and this place seems to have this kind of shit all the time. I mean this seriously Champ, I think the CWCki could benefit a lot from more Jerkops. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:09, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
:Before you answer him, Champ, keep in mind that I've also been here a long time and am also actively contributing; so if you decided to give Old meme jerkop rights, I sure would appreciate receiving them as well. Just saying. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 09:24, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

*You both make good points. Could you point out the furry image though, the only image I've seen by him is that picture of Chris ejaculating on Anna's face, which I've incidentally deleted because I don't think it really improves the Anna article. Anyways, about quality in general - I've discussed this issue with Anonymax, and this goes for the both of you, that as regular users you have all the tools needed to improve the quality of the CWCki. If there's an incidence such as an edit war going on, you're welcome to ask any of the admins to step in to resolve the issue. For these reasons, I don't think it's needed to add more jerkops or admins for these reasons. However, if it ever got out of control, then I would consider making someone a quality control jerkop to enforce quality standards. However, I think for the most part you all have the tools you need, just keep making good edits and reverting shit like you have been doing and I think that should be sufficient.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:11, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
**He's probably talking about [[:Image:Sonichu.jpg|this picture]], which was spammed on [[CWCki:Privacy policy]]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 23:46, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

== Deletion of Fail; Effects ==

Would it be necessary to organize a project of some kind to remove red "fail" pipes from pages across the CWCki? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 11:27, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
*[http://www.sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Fail&limit=500 Here they all are]. Clean them at your leisure. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 11:57, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
:[[User:Anonybot|Anonybot]] is working on it. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 14:41, 23 April 2012 (PDT)

Fail article deleted, stupid page names corrected, Champ finally got around to deleting the furry porn. It's been a good week. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:39, 24 April 2012 (PDT)
*At least SOMEONE is happy.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:18, 25 April 2012 (PDT)

==Why did you delete the article on Kim?==
She is as notable as any of the gal pals, and all the info IS public, coming from the Kacey calls.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:03, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know the Kim from the Kacey calls is the same Kim Wilson? Kim is a fairly common name. You're also assuming a lot of things, like Kim is ScarletSanctum when you have no proof of that, and you're including a lot of things that are rumors like how some apology video was because Kim was upset. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:04, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

*1. Chris states her name is Kim Wilson in one of the Kacey calls.
*2. ScarletSanctum is Kim's youtube handle, as stated in [[SingStar Challenge]].
*3. Chris addresses in that video that he upset Kim and Kacey with the previous video.

And if the name was an issue why not just redirect the page to "Kim"?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:17, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know that ScarletSanctum is Kim? Does Chris explicitly mention it? Also does Chris specifically say Kim in that video in that it upset her? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:23, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

Chris does explicitly mention it. Look at this dialouge in [[Kacey Call 1]]:
*Chris: Yeah. So you know uh, Kim, you know uh, how she, uh, yeah you know, uh, Kim, I actually heard that Kim and her friend Logan actually live in the Charlton area close to the downtown mall, you know? So if you ever wanted to look her up and, you know, just talk to her, you know, find about more about the impostor for me, or you know, see what her opinion of me is on the Internet from her point of view...
*Kacey: Oh, you want me to do some undercover stuff? Chris, that is so sweet of you! You know how much I wanted to get involved.
*Chris: Oh yeah, sure. You know that ScarletSanctum account? That's hers.
*Kacey: Okay, no, I will totally, totally message her. It's Kim Woods, you said?
*Chris: No, Kim Wilson. Totally. Message her, talk to her all about me.

As far as making the video in response to offending Kim, he also implicitly states this:

"Uh, I dedicate this video to uh, Logan. Boyfriend of my gal-pal, Kim. Yeah, anyway uh, I've--I just wanted to uh, apologize for uh...offending you in anyway"

He could also be referring to offending Logan, but either way why through the baby out with the bathwater?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:35, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*Let me think about it. In the meantime, I've made a [[User:Steve Landcleamer/Kim|subpage]] for you in the meantime.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:39, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

So is there any hold up or is the page good to go? I've answered all your questions and it seems to meet all the requirements.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:32, 5 May 2012 (PDT)
*Don't you think it might be a little bit imprudent to make a page about Kim?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:58, 5 May 2012 (PDT)

*Why would it be imprudent? All the information is public and sourced. All the other gal pals have pages, so what would the problem be?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 18:37, 5 May 2012 (PDT)

*Well?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:39, 7 May 2012 (PDT)
*Good God, first learn some patience, this isn't a life and death issue. Second of all, let me put it this way - in your own words, the supposed Kim calls are unreleased. Why do you think that is?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:18, 8 May 2012 (PDT)

Because "she"'s obviously still trying to troll Chris. Regardless, that's beside the point, while the calls haven't been released, all the information in the article has. You initially deleted it under the guise that is was "Not notable, not based on public information", but we both know that that's clearly not the cause. My page seemed to meet all the guidelines, so based on Cwicki guidelines, what is objectionable about it?

I'm sorry if I seem impatient, I just find this quelling of already public information to be pretty ridiculous and counter productive to the CWCki.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 14:43, 8 May 2012 (PDT)
*Based on my discussions with Canine and Anonymax, I have decided to restore the article. Remember, the CWCki is form Chris's POV so Kim isn't a troll, she has not publicly declared herself to be a troll to Chris. I'd also avoid posting on /cwc/ and CWCki Forums when you make an article on a delicate topic like this.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:09, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

===If I may step in and say a piece===
I know I may not be towing the party line by saying this Champ, but Land has a point here. This is all information that was technically on the wiki anyway, just in out of the way places. Personally, I have no problem with covering things up for trolling purposes, because I understand the need to do so and I'm not one to whine about dang dirty stonecutters, but we have information on Kim here already. I don't care which side of the fence you're on Champ, I'll just go with what you say, but you've got to at least be consistent. Either allow the article outright, or if you object to some of the content in the article being made public, censor it and then allow the censored version to be posted. Your decision is final and no-one would be able to stop you, so I don't know what you're worried about. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:22, 9 May 2012 (PDT)
*True, I realize this, but the issue is that there's a good reason that Kim doesn't already have an article, mostly for [[A_Quick_Guide_to_CWCki#Privacy|privacy reasons]] which is indeed already covered. I'm trying to convey that subtly. Remember, Chris reads the CWCki, and loose lips sink ships. I don't think "we" released the Kacey calls, Canine tells me it was all dropped by Liquid's twin brother so it's not like we were able to filter through everything to see if anything was objectionable.

:This is a difficult decision and I need to discuss it with Canine a bit more, unfortunately we have conflicting schedules so I'll try and catch him tonight.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:31, 9 May 2012 (PDT)

==Chris's POV==
*Thank you for restoring the Kim article. I am wondering something concerning what you said about the cwicki supposed to be from Chris's point of view. Why do articles like [[Obesity]] state that Chris is fat? He's said multiple times that he does not think he is. There are lots of other examples like this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 17:07, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

[[Chris and reality]] would be the best example of this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 18:13, 11 May 2012 (PDT)
::We go by what Chris thinks/says unless we have decent evidence to the contrary. With his obesity, we have more than enough evidence to support this. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:04, 12 May 2012 (PDT)

==Permanently Banned from Message Board==
I really don't understand this at all. Please respond to the email I sent you.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:21, 6 May 2012 (PDT)

Never mind one of the other mods took care of this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:39, 7 May 2012 (PDT)

== Comms ==

I'm on IRC a lot and today is my day off work so if you're around so am I! --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 02:19, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

== can I help? ==
Hey I have a capture card that does 720p,1800p,ect and wanted to know if I could use it to help (lbp videos,screen shots) does anything need to be rerecorded? also I'm moving soon so if you could say something in the next week or so (before I have to pack my computer up) that would be great. [[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]] 09:14, 1 June 2012 (PDT)
* Sorry it took a day to get back to you, just had to think as I do appreciate your gumption. To be honest though, I can't think of anything in particular, BUT that's just to the best of my knowledge. Head over to [[CWCki:General|the community portal]] and ask there, there might be some people to have some ideas. Just do me one teensy favor - be sure to sign your posts (that's four ~ in a row) so we know who you are when you post. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:29, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
* thanks! [[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]] 09:14, 1 June 2012 (PDT)

==Bruce Johnson==
The Bruce Johnson thing is real. I don't even care about the PVCC anymore. I just want you to know I'm not making up what I added to the cwicki. Would you like a wider screenshot of the facebook convo?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 19:26, 20 June 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know it's the real Bruce Johnson? Or rather, why should we trust you? I could easily have made a Bruce Johnson account to fool you. Even if it is real, do we really need it? All it boils down to is Johnson saying he's not a pedophile contrary to what Chris said. Is this really a startling revelation, that Chris said something negative about someone and it's not true? Do we really need to confirm this, in light of Chris's history? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:36, 20 June 2012 (PDT)
*'Sup bitches, guess who's back? Champy, thought I'd drop in to tell you that under the "no shit is too minor" policy, (which you should really get rid of if it enrages you so), we do indeed need to confirm everything if possible. That said this is still probably bullshit, and confirming this still isn't your job. If you want my two cents, give Landcleamer a chance to convince you of its authenticity at least. I'm sure you have high standards for what you'd accept as convincing proof, so either someone else will go out of their way to contribute something valid, or he can fail to do so and you can say no again. Worst case scenario, Steve Landcleamer turns out to be the weenest of ween trolls and goes through a lot of work to convince you of something fairly inconsequential that can be removed if it later turns out to be fake anyway. The way I see it, this isn't a real problem for you either way. Let the monkey dance. Also, your insulting summaries were hilarious. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 02:12, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
:*I forgot to add in the summary that our friend Steve here wanted to be let into PVCC on the basis of this "startling" revelation. As I've said before, "no shit is too minor" should mean that we don't overlook things, not that we need to get third party confirmation on everything. Anyone who's familiar with Chris knows that his memory isn't totally accurate and he's been known to bullshit. Given that Chris has called Michael Synder a Jew, does this mean we have to contact Michael Synder and confirm whether or not he is a Jew? Do we need to contact Mary Lee Walsh to make sure she's not in fact secretly a witch planning on banning true love from Virginia? It should be pretty obvious that Johnson probably isn't a pedophile, and what does his admission of not being a pedophile say? He could be lying for all we know, I'm not saying he's a pedophile, he probably isn't, but his admission of not being a pedophile shouldn't be startling. I mean, did you expect him to say "Chris got me, I'm a kiddy piddler, I love little boys and molesting them as they sit on my lap and I do horrible profane things to them." Of course the answer is "no," why do we need to have confirmation of this?
::As I've said before, I don't like people bothering Chris tangentially related to Chris about stuff. I think having known Chris is punishment enough, it doesn't help to have epic ween trolls like Steve here think they're gonna get into PVCC on the basis of harassing these people and asking them for information about Chris. I think it's pretty damn weird and spergy to do this, that is to contact people with tangential relations to Chris and ask them details about Chris. Someone on the CWCki Forums is like "No, it's not weird, it's just like liking any celebrity like the Kardashians." Here's the thing - I don't think celebrity magazines are hunting down the lady who served one of those Kardashian people coffee and doing a full length interview. It's bizarre, I would be weirded out if some person went up to and wanted me to tell them everything I know about some person I vaguely remember from years ago.
::Burden of proof is on Steve and he's on shakey ground. I don't trust him one bit. I don't like having things that could very easily be false on the CWCki because it hurts our reputation and people already distrust the CWCki as it is, I don't need to give them more reason to distrust it. I don't want to give people an incentive to make up fake bullshit and post it on the CWCki with the thought they'll be declared an epic ween troll for getting "new" "content" and that they'll get into PVCC and that mommy and daddy will finally love them because they'll no longer be wastes of human flesh.
::You have to REALLY convince me here, Steve. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:18, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Hey, no objections from me. Steve wants to dig up trivial information to try and get into PVCC, that's his business. It's not like it would at all harm the CWCki to put up a single quote from the man if it does turn out to be true. Though really, you need to do something about the abundance of ween trolls trying to get into PVCC, or even just normal idiots desperately begging for it, like 16BitAlex. Maybe the guys in the forum itself or on IRC get a good laugh out of them, but I personally just get depressed when I see people like Stevey-boy cluttering the CWCki recent changes, desperately pursuing some unattainable goal by making bullshit edits and whining as hard as possible on talk pages. It wastes your time, it wastes mine, it's rather sad, and it's not even entertaining enough for the guys on /cwc/ to get more than a single thread from it. All in all, a pathetic affair for all involved. I would suggest temp-banning Pipecleaner if he continues to make a nuisance of himself after this, under your "Drama whoring" clause. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:13, 21 June 2012 (PDT)

User talk:Champthom

2012-06-21T09:12:48Z

Old meme: /* Bruce Johnson */

Talk to me.

Be sure to check out the archives as well:

'''Archive:''' [[User:Champthom/Archive 1|1]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 2|2]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 3|3]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 4|4]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 5|5]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 6|6]]

== Champ, I mean it now ==
When I come on here and see that people like [[User talk:Steve Landcleamer|this mouthbreather]] have been fucking with pages while being told not to and spamming pictures of furry porn that we for some reason allow on here, and yet I have the power to neither delete the image or ban the sperg, it cuts me deep. I'm on here often enough and I've already contributed a lot to the wiki. Can you throw some Jerkop powers my way so I can sort this shit out in future? We don't have nearly enough active mods and this place seems to have this kind of shit all the time. I mean this seriously Champ, I think the CWCki could benefit a lot from more Jerkops. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:09, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
:Before you answer him, Champ, keep in mind that I've also been here a long time and am also actively contributing; so if you decided to give Old meme jerkop rights, I sure would appreciate receiving them as well. Just saying. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 09:24, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

*You both make good points. Could you point out the furry image though, the only image I've seen by him is that picture of Chris ejaculating on Anna's face, which I've incidentally deleted because I don't think it really improves the Anna article. Anyways, about quality in general - I've discussed this issue with Anonymax, and this goes for the both of you, that as regular users you have all the tools needed to improve the quality of the CWCki. If there's an incidence such as an edit war going on, you're welcome to ask any of the admins to step in to resolve the issue. For these reasons, I don't think it's needed to add more jerkops or admins for these reasons. However, if it ever got out of control, then I would consider making someone a quality control jerkop to enforce quality standards. However, I think for the most part you all have the tools you need, just keep making good edits and reverting shit like you have been doing and I think that should be sufficient.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:11, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
**He's probably talking about [[:Image:Sonichu.jpg|this picture]], which was spammed on [[CWCki:Privacy policy]]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 23:46, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

== Deletion of Fail; Effects ==

Would it be necessary to organize a project of some kind to remove red "fail" pipes from pages across the CWCki? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 11:27, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
*[http://www.sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Fail&limit=500 Here they all are]. Clean them at your leisure. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 11:57, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
:[[User:Anonybot|Anonybot]] is working on it. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 14:41, 23 April 2012 (PDT)

Fail article deleted, stupid page names corrected, Champ finally got around to deleting the furry porn. It's been a good week. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:39, 24 April 2012 (PDT)
*At least SOMEONE is happy.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:18, 25 April 2012 (PDT)

==Why did you delete the article on Kim?==
She is as notable as any of the gal pals, and all the info IS public, coming from the Kacey calls.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:03, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know the Kim from the Kacey calls is the same Kim Wilson? Kim is a fairly common name. You're also assuming a lot of things, like Kim is ScarletSanctum when you have no proof of that, and you're including a lot of things that are rumors like how some apology video was because Kim was upset. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:04, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

*1. Chris states her name is Kim Wilson in one of the Kacey calls.
*2. ScarletSanctum is Kim's youtube handle, as stated in [[SingStar Challenge]].
*3. Chris addresses in that video that he upset Kim and Kacey with the previous video.

And if the name was an issue why not just redirect the page to "Kim"?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:17, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know that ScarletSanctum is Kim? Does Chris explicitly mention it? Also does Chris specifically say Kim in that video in that it upset her? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:23, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

Chris does explicitly mention it. Look at this dialouge in [[Kacey Call 1]]:
*Chris: Yeah. So you know uh, Kim, you know uh, how she, uh, yeah you know, uh, Kim, I actually heard that Kim and her friend Logan actually live in the Charlton area close to the downtown mall, you know? So if you ever wanted to look her up and, you know, just talk to her, you know, find about more about the impostor for me, or you know, see what her opinion of me is on the Internet from her point of view...
*Kacey: Oh, you want me to do some undercover stuff? Chris, that is so sweet of you! You know how much I wanted to get involved.
*Chris: Oh yeah, sure. You know that ScarletSanctum account? That's hers.
*Kacey: Okay, no, I will totally, totally message her. It's Kim Woods, you said?
*Chris: No, Kim Wilson. Totally. Message her, talk to her all about me.

As far as making the video in response to offending Kim, he also implicitly states this:

"Uh, I dedicate this video to uh, Logan. Boyfriend of my gal-pal, Kim. Yeah, anyway uh, I've--I just wanted to uh, apologize for uh...offending you in anyway"

He could also be referring to offending Logan, but either way why through the baby out with the bathwater?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:35, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*Let me think about it. In the meantime, I've made a [[User:Steve Landcleamer/Kim|subpage]] for you in the meantime.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:39, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

So is there any hold up or is the page good to go? I've answered all your questions and it seems to meet all the requirements.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:32, 5 May 2012 (PDT)
*Don't you think it might be a little bit imprudent to make a page about Kim?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:58, 5 May 2012 (PDT)

*Why would it be imprudent? All the information is public and sourced. All the other gal pals have pages, so what would the problem be?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 18:37, 5 May 2012 (PDT)

*Well?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:39, 7 May 2012 (PDT)
*Good God, first learn some patience, this isn't a life and death issue. Second of all, let me put it this way - in your own words, the supposed Kim calls are unreleased. Why do you think that is?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:18, 8 May 2012 (PDT)

Because "she"'s obviously still trying to troll Chris. Regardless, that's beside the point, while the calls haven't been released, all the information in the article has. You initially deleted it under the guise that is was "Not notable, not based on public information", but we both know that that's clearly not the cause. My page seemed to meet all the guidelines, so based on Cwicki guidelines, what is objectionable about it?

I'm sorry if I seem impatient, I just find this quelling of already public information to be pretty ridiculous and counter productive to the CWCki.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 14:43, 8 May 2012 (PDT)
*Based on my discussions with Canine and Anonymax, I have decided to restore the article. Remember, the CWCki is form Chris's POV so Kim isn't a troll, she has not publicly declared herself to be a troll to Chris. I'd also avoid posting on /cwc/ and CWCki Forums when you make an article on a delicate topic like this.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:09, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

===If I may step in and say a piece===
I know I may not be towing the party line by saying this Champ, but Land has a point here. This is all information that was technically on the wiki anyway, just in out of the way places. Personally, I have no problem with covering things up for trolling purposes, because I understand the need to do so and I'm not one to whine about dang dirty stonecutters, but we have information on Kim here already. I don't care which side of the fence you're on Champ, I'll just go with what you say, but you've got to at least be consistent. Either allow the article outright, or if you object to some of the content in the article being made public, censor it and then allow the censored version to be posted. Your decision is final and no-one would be able to stop you, so I don't know what you're worried about. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:22, 9 May 2012 (PDT)
*True, I realize this, but the issue is that there's a good reason that Kim doesn't already have an article, mostly for [[A_Quick_Guide_to_CWCki#Privacy|privacy reasons]] which is indeed already covered. I'm trying to convey that subtly. Remember, Chris reads the CWCki, and loose lips sink ships. I don't think "we" released the Kacey calls, Canine tells me it was all dropped by Liquid's twin brother so it's not like we were able to filter through everything to see if anything was objectionable.

:This is a difficult decision and I need to discuss it with Canine a bit more, unfortunately we have conflicting schedules so I'll try and catch him tonight.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:31, 9 May 2012 (PDT)

==Chris's POV==
*Thank you for restoring the Kim article. I am wondering something concerning what you said about the cwicki supposed to be from Chris's point of view. Why do articles like [[Obesity]] state that Chris is fat? He's said multiple times that he does not think he is. There are lots of other examples like this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 17:07, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

[[Chris and reality]] would be the best example of this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 18:13, 11 May 2012 (PDT)
::We go by what Chris thinks/says unless we have decent evidence to the contrary. With his obesity, we have more than enough evidence to support this. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:04, 12 May 2012 (PDT)

==Permanently Banned from Message Board==
I really don't understand this at all. Please respond to the email I sent you.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:21, 6 May 2012 (PDT)

Never mind one of the other mods took care of this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:39, 7 May 2012 (PDT)

== Comms ==

I'm on IRC a lot and today is my day off work so if you're around so am I! --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 02:19, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

== can I help? ==
Hey I have a capture card that does 720p,1800p,ect and wanted to know if I could use it to help (lbp videos,screen shots) does anything need to be rerecorded? also I'm moving soon so if you could say something in the next week or so (before I have to pack my computer up) that would be great. [[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]] 09:14, 1 June 2012 (PDT)
* Sorry it took a day to get back to you, just had to think as I do appreciate your gumption. To be honest though, I can't think of anything in particular, BUT that's just to the best of my knowledge. Head over to [[CWCki:General|the community portal]] and ask there, there might be some people to have some ideas. Just do me one teensy favor - be sure to sign your posts (that's four ~ in a row) so we know who you are when you post. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:29, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
* thanks! [[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]] 09:14, 1 June 2012 (PDT)

==Bruce Johnson==
The Bruce Johnson thing is real. I don't even care about the PVCC anymore. I just want you to know I'm not making up what I added to the cwicki. Would you like a wider screenshot of the facebook convo?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 19:26, 20 June 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know it's the real Bruce Johnson? Or rather, why should we trust you? I could easily have made a Bruce Johnson account to fool you. Even if it is real, do we really need it? All it boils down to is Johnson saying he's not a pedophile contrary to what Chris said. Is this really a startling revelation, that Chris said something negative about someone and it's not true? Do we really need to confirm this, in light of Chris's history? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:36, 20 June 2012 (PDT)
*'Sup bitches, guess who's back? Champy, thought I'd drop in to tell you that under the "no shit is too minor" policy, (which you should really get rid of if it enrages you so), we do indeed need to confirm everything if possible. That said this is still probably bullshit, and confirming this still isn't your job. If you want my two cents, give Landcleamer a chance to convince you of its authenticity at least. I'm sure you have high standards for what you'd accept as convincing proof, so either someone else will go out of their way to contribute something valid, or he can fail to do so and you can say no again. Worst case scenario, Steve Landcleamer turns out to be the weenest of ween trolls and goes through a lot of work to convince you of something fairly inconsequential that can be removed if it later turns out to be fake anyway. The way I see it, this isn't a real problem for you either way. Let the monkey dance. Also, your insulting summaries were hilarious. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 02:12, 21 June 2012 (PDT)

Talk:A-Logs

2012-05-11T14:03:53Z

Old meme: Created page with "It's a start, but it could be a lot better. I'm only vaguely familiar with A-Log myself, so I'm not sure how much I could do to fix the article. While I don't want this to tur..."

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2012-05-10T09:11:52Z

Old meme: /* A-Logging */

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=="No shit is too minor"==

This is something that's been on my mind for a while and I feel like getting it off my chest now. It's about our motto "No shit is too minor." I get this impression that people think it means "We have a duty to document every facet of Chris, we must know everything about Chris, if Chris takes a shit we need to document it and keep track of his bowel movements." I think that isn't the case.

First off, "no shit is too minor" is something someone just came up with one day and I thought it suited us well. It's not something I came up with or anything, but I've liked it because what I've always interpreted it as is "We shouldn't overlook things about Chris." At times, people can be like "Oh, we don't need to worry about this recording, we've looked over it before," that is that they will overlook material about Chris or not think it's important. I think the "no shit is too minor" in that as wiki editors we should dig through the content we do have and try and find new insights about Chris in it. For instance, when I first watched the [[The 24th Wedding Anniversary Special]] I didn't think much of it. I was like "Okay, Chris is rambling on and doing Animal Crossing shit, who cares?" But then I watched it another day and noticed that he talks a lot about his parents and how they met, that's some pretty significant information. It doesn't mean we have to analyze his choice of font in the video, or we need to do a Freudian analysis of his music choices, but merely we shouldn't overlook things.

Anyways, I could go on but what I think we need to do is not to overlook the little things, that's how I've interpreted, rather than "Chris has a bowel movement, we need to document it and we need to know Chris's regularity" which is how I see a lot of people interpret it as.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:25, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*I agree completely, and encourage you to consider getting a new motto. I think the current one brings out people's spergy side. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:28, 27 January 2012 (PST)
** as i have said before, once you start leaving out details its like cancer. its all or nothing eventually. Either include everything because you never know what is or is going to be important (Elvis died on the crapper), or just dont include anything. if chris is irregular, well that sounds unimportant, but down the road that simple detail could help someone figure out something else. Logic requires detail for extrapolation of facts. more detail, more extrapolation, more facts...[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 07:03, 27 January 2012 (PST)
** a possible new motto would be "Just the facts" or "The devil is in the details"
**No, cancer would be filling up the CWCki with too many pointless details. Champ's rant was all about how we DON'T need to write about every little trivial aspect of Chris's life. It's fine to leave stupid shit out, and that's what we're trying to do. And, that is also why we are having this discussion about a possible new motto. That said, I think you have some good ideas for possible alternate mottos, and I highly encourage Champ if he's reading this to consider them. Also, you have to sign all your posts, not just your first one. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:55, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*** Define what is 'stupid' clearly... What facts should be left out? COnjecture, that should be left out.. Opinion, that should be left out... But NO FACT no matter HOW MINISCULE should ever be left out, lest it be gone forever. The simple things, the details, the minutia, thats where the truth of Chris really lies...[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 09:12, 7 February 2012 (PST)

== Linking quotes ==

Ok so i was reading the PS3 article over and notices that chris is quoted saying 'I'd throw away the cure for autism' where the word autism is linked to the autism page. well on the Pixelated_PS3 page (where the video lives that the quote comes from) autism is is also linked to the word autism.. ok here is the issue, when quoting chris on a page other then the one that has the original video, should we link the quote to that page directly? i mean we seem to link all kinds of stuff to all kinds of stuff but a barely see any quotes linked back to the source of the quote. Just asking what the protocol is for that?
*We usually do link back the quotes in the article text around them or in the quote description. I don't think that there is any set in stone policy about it, but I can't really think of any instance where a quote's source has not been linked in the article somewhere. If you can though, by all means show me where. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:55, 27 January 2012 (PST)
* if i run across it i will rectify it, the source is linked in the citation on the page i was talking about so there is a link, Chris is obviously quoted often so im sure there are quotes on pages with no back links. i guess creating citations for quotes is the best way to go.

== Megaupload and Filesharing sites ==

I've noticed that in quite a few articles that include things for download the link that lead to recently shut down file serving sites have been closed. Is it a priority to fix these? [[User:Granola|Granola]] 06:42, 13 February 2012 (PST)

== Chris an violence ==

Chris and violence have a long relationship. He has not only threatened violence, but also responded to threats of violence. He has performed tasks under the threat of violence and requested that tasks be performed with violence as an alternative..

The point here is that anger is one thing and violence is another. Chris has enough of a relationship with different areas of violence, that i believe that it deserves an article in the '''Chris and''' series.

Violence itself should not be lumped with anger. Anger is an emotion where as violence is an act (or in many cases the threat of an act) anger deals with how chris feels toward a specific situation where as violence deals with how Chris acts. im not a great christorian but i know enough to understand that ''''Chris and violence'''' is a subject that deserves a page on this wiki... [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 05:31, 9 March 2012 (PST)
*First, we already have the [[Death Threats]] article, so that kind of counts. Second, Chris is pretty much [[Power|incapable]] of violence anyway (unless he gets his hands on a gun, but why would he buy a gun when that can go into [[vidya]]?), so anger and threats are all he's going to get. While I agree that he does seem to resort to violence pretty often, I have to say that he often channels that anger into various things we already have articles on, whether it be the [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] or the death threats previously mentioned. [[User:Boriki|Boriki]] 20:42, 22 March 2012 (PDT)
** Im not entirely convinced. The article i was thinking about is not just focused on chris DOING violence, but how he perceives violence, his bigotry regarding violence, and how he reacts to threats of violence. Basically chris is a bully, a pussy and generally has no empathy.[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 05:01, 23 March 2012 (PDT)
***Sounds rather pointless to me. The Chris and series in general just seems to be a way to take potshots at Chris nowadays, but they do have their place and they do cover a lot of things that would be hard to place into other articles. [[Chris and the law]] for instance I think is a page we needed to have. It could have ''maybe'' been placed into the [[Jerkop]] article, but it would have been wildly out of place. Now Chris and Violence on the other hand is something that very easily folds into articles like [[Death Threats]] and [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]], or even [[Chris and anger]]. Really, if you want to go into Chris's perception of violence, most of what you'd come up with would be ninety percent speculation anyway. You can try to write up the article yourself, and if anything is salvageable and CWCki appropriate we could make it into a [[Chris and anger]] subsection, but it's hardly appropriate for its own article. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:38, 23 March 2012 (PDT)

== A-Logging ==

I've been thinking, what would you all think of a page covering "A-Logging", that is thinking that Chris is worse than Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot combine and deserves to be punished? I think this issue is sort of the opposite extreme of [[White knighting]] which we deal with. Now, I bring this up here because I ask - do you think we should have a formal article about it, ala the White knighting article, or perhaps we should make a policy about it to elaborate on [[CWCki:NPOV|NPOV]]? I think we get a lot of grief that we tend to foster A-Logs, that people will read the CWCki and think Chris is an awful person who has committed crimes against humanity (which really isn't the case). Or perhaps we should do both? My concern with an actual article on it is that A-Logging hasn't really impacted Chris trolling the same way white knighting has. A-Logs don't really fuck things up, they just make normal trolls look bad.

I think we should try to be more neutral towards Chris, critical yet fair, as I believe that ideally we should be presenting information about Chris as "This is what we know about Chris" rather than "Chris is x, y, z (and they're all bad things"). So, what do you all think? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:59, 29 April 2012 (PDT)
*Yes. We need an article like this. A legitimate article like the White Knight one that explains in detail just how stupid the whole idea is, and with examples of what has resulted from it. In particular, I think we should point out that A-Log managed to get his own Encyclopedia Dramatica page from doing so. That will deter this sperginess if nothing else. While we're at it, I also think that links to this page should be added into the CWCki's welcome message so that new users are directed to it, and it should get linked on the front page, at least for a little while, so that as many thirteen year old youtubers as possible see it. I also would not object to A-Logging being made a temporarily bannable offence, just so we can get rid of those that ignore it. I know the forums are already considered a hive for sperginess, but that's a reputation that does not need to be attached to actual wiki users. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:11, 1 May 2012 (PDT)

So is anyone else going to do this, or will I have to? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 02:11, 10 May 2012 (PDT)

== Activity meter ==

I was wondering if we could setup an activity meter, kind of like the defcon or the homeland security color system. It would theoretically measure how active chris is. Just thought ot would be a nice graphic that we could update when his activity level changes. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 09:26, 30 April 2012 (PDT)
*One of the few ideas Slimz has ever had that I'm fully behind. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:12, 1 May 2012 (PDT)
** thanks, you dont have to like my ideas, but if i have them im gonna share them, worst anyone can say is "no" [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 08:51, 3 May 2012 (PDT)

== Index of terms ==

I think an index of terms that are used often would be useful.
Things like:
Solid Chris
Liquid Chris
China
Pickle
true and honest
fans
gal-pal
sweetheart

Now i know that the terms for the most part each have an article, but a single page of Chris-centric vocabulary would be nice.
thoughts [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 07:34, 9 May 2012 (PDT)

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2012-05-10T09:08:23Z

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User talk:Champthom

2012-05-09T13:22:07Z

Old meme: /* Why did you delete the article on Kim? */

Talk to me.

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== Champ, I mean it now ==
When I come on here and see that people like [[User talk:Steve Landcleamer|this mouthbreather]] have been fucking with pages while being told not to and spamming pictures of furry porn that we for some reason allow on here, and yet I have the power to neither delete the image or ban the sperg, it cuts me deep. I'm on here often enough and I've already contributed a lot to the wiki. Can you throw some Jerkop powers my way so I can sort this shit out in future? We don't have nearly enough active mods and this place seems to have this kind of shit all the time. I mean this seriously Champ, I think the CWCki could benefit a lot from more Jerkops. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:09, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
:Before you answer him, Champ, keep in mind that I've also been here a long time and am also actively contributing; so if you decided to give Old meme jerkop rights, I sure would appreciate receiving them as well. Just saying. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 09:24, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

*You both make good points. Could you point out the furry image though, the only image I've seen by him is that picture of Chris ejaculating on Anna's face, which I've incidentally deleted because I don't think it really improves the Anna article. Anyways, about quality in general - I've discussed this issue with Anonymax, and this goes for the both of you, that as regular users you have all the tools needed to improve the quality of the CWCki. If there's an incidence such as an edit war going on, you're welcome to ask any of the admins to step in to resolve the issue. For these reasons, I don't think it's needed to add more jerkops or admins for these reasons. However, if it ever got out of control, then I would consider making someone a quality control jerkop to enforce quality standards. However, I think for the most part you all have the tools you need, just keep making good edits and reverting shit like you have been doing and I think that should be sufficient.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:11, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
**He's probably talking about [[:Image:Sonichu.jpg|this picture]], which was spammed on [[CWCki:Privacy policy]]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 23:46, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

== Deletion of Fail; Effects ==

Would it be necessary to organize a project of some kind to remove red "fail" pipes from pages across the CWCki? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 11:27, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
*[http://www.sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Fail&limit=500 Here they all are]. Clean them at your leisure. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 11:57, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
:[[User:Anonybot|Anonybot]] is working on it. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 14:41, 23 April 2012 (PDT)

Fail article deleted, stupid page names corrected, Champ finally got around to deleting the furry porn. It's been a good week. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:39, 24 April 2012 (PDT)
*At least SOMEONE is happy.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:18, 25 April 2012 (PDT)

==Why did you delete the article on Kim?==
She is as notable as any of the gal pals, and all the info IS public, coming from the Kacey calls.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:03, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know the Kim from the Kacey calls is the same Kim Wilson? Kim is a fairly common name. You're also assuming a lot of things, like Kim is ScarletSanctum when you have no proof of that, and you're including a lot of things that are rumors like how some apology video was because Kim was upset. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:04, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

*1. Chris states her name is Kim Wilson in one of the Kacey calls.
*2. ScarletSanctum is Kim's youtube handle, as stated in [[SingStar Challenge]].
*3. Chris addresses in that video that he upset Kim and Kacey with the previous video.

And if the name was an issue why not just redirect the page to "Kim"?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:17, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know that ScarletSanctum is Kim? Does Chris explicitly mention it? Also does Chris specifically say Kim in that video in that it upset her? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:23, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

Chris does explicitly mention it. Look at this dialouge in [[Kacey Call 1]]:
*Chris: Yeah. So you know uh, Kim, you know uh, how she, uh, yeah you know, uh, Kim, I actually heard that Kim and her friend Logan actually live in the Charlton area close to the downtown mall, you know? So if you ever wanted to look her up and, you know, just talk to her, you know, find about more about the impostor for me, or you know, see what her opinion of me is on the Internet from her point of view...
*Kacey: Oh, you want me to do some undercover stuff? Chris, that is so sweet of you! You know how much I wanted to get involved.
*Chris: Oh yeah, sure. You know that ScarletSanctum account? That's hers.
*Kacey: Okay, no, I will totally, totally message her. It's Kim Woods, you said?
*Chris: No, Kim Wilson. Totally. Message her, talk to her all about me.

As far as making the video in response to offending Kim, he also implicitly states this:

"Uh, I dedicate this video to uh, Logan. Boyfriend of my gal-pal, Kim. Yeah, anyway uh, I've--I just wanted to uh, apologize for uh...offending you in anyway"

He could also be referring to offending Logan, but either way why through the baby out with the bathwater?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:35, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*Let me think about it. In the meantime, I've made a [[User:Steve Landcleamer/Kim|subpage]] for you in the meantime.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:39, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

So is there any hold up or is the page good to go? I've answered all your questions and it seems to meet all the requirements.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:32, 5 May 2012 (PDT)
*Don't you think it might be a little bit imprudent to make a page about Kim?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:58, 5 May 2012 (PDT)

*Why would it be imprudent? All the information is public and sourced. All the other gal pals have pages, so what would the problem be?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 18:37, 5 May 2012 (PDT)

*Well?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:39, 7 May 2012 (PDT)
*Good God, first learn some patience, this isn't a life and death issue. Second of all, let me put it this way - in your own words, the supposed Kim calls are unreleased. Why do you think that is?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:18, 8 May 2012 (PDT)

Because "she"'s obviously still trying to troll Chris. Regardless, that's beside the point, while the calls haven't been released, all the information in the article has. You initially deleted it under the guise that is was "Not notable, not based on public information", but we both know that that's clearly not the cause. My page seemed to meet all the guidelines, so based on Cwicki guidelines, what is objectionable about it?

I'm sorry if I seem impatient, I just find this quelling of already public information to be pretty ridiculous and counter productive to the CWCki.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 14:43, 8 May 2012 (PDT)

===If I may step in and say a piece===
I know I may not be towing the party line by saying this Champ, but Land has a point here. This is all information that was technically on the wiki anyway, just in out of the way places. Personally, I have no problem with covering things up for trolling purposes, because I understand the need to do so and I'm not one to whine about dang dirty stonecutters, but we have information on Kim here already. I don't care which side of the fence you're on Champ, I'll just go with what you say, but you've got to at least be consistent. Either allow the article outright, or if you object to some of the content in the article being made public, censor it and then allow the censored version to be posted. Your decision is final and no-one would be able to stop you, so I don't know what you're worried about. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:22, 9 May 2012 (PDT)

==Permanently Banned from Message Board==
I really don't understand this at all. Please respond to the email I sent you.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:21, 6 May 2012 (PDT)

Never mind one of the other mods took care of this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:39, 7 May 2012 (PDT)

Talk:Chris and contests

2012-05-04T13:14:57Z

Old meme: Discussion going on in here guize, get in and talk with us

Does this meet the standards for a "Chris and..." article?
[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 05:15, 10 April 2012 (PDT)
*Unsure. It's actually a decent article, and has the potential to be even better, but I'm iffy about the name. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:14, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

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2012-05-01T13:12:31Z

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=="No shit is too minor"==

This is something that's been on my mind for a while and I feel like getting it off my chest now. It's about our motto "No shit is too minor." I get this impression that people think it means "We have a duty to document every facet of Chris, we must know everything about Chris, if Chris takes a shit we need to document it and keep track of his bowel movements." I think that isn't the case.

First off, "no shit is too minor" is something someone just came up with one day and I thought it suited us well. It's not something I came up with or anything, but I've liked it because what I've always interpreted it as is "We shouldn't overlook things about Chris." At times, people can be like "Oh, we don't need to worry about this recording, we've looked over it before," that is that they will overlook material about Chris or not think it's important. I think the "no shit is too minor" in that as wiki editors we should dig through the content we do have and try and find new insights about Chris in it. For instance, when I first watched the [[The 24th Wedding Anniversary Special]] I didn't think much of it. I was like "Okay, Chris is rambling on and doing Animal Crossing shit, who cares?" But then I watched it another day and noticed that he talks a lot about his parents and how they met, that's some pretty significant information. It doesn't mean we have to analyze his choice of font in the video, or we need to do a Freudian analysis of his music choices, but merely we shouldn't overlook things.

Anyways, I could go on but what I think we need to do is not to overlook the little things, that's how I've interpreted, rather than "Chris has a bowel movement, we need to document it and we need to know Chris's regularity" which is how I see a lot of people interpret it as.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:25, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*I agree completely, and encourage you to consider getting a new motto. I think the current one brings out people's spergy side. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:28, 27 January 2012 (PST)
** as i have said before, once you start leaving out details its like cancer. its all or nothing eventually. Either include everything because you never know what is or is going to be important (Elvis died on the crapper), or just dont include anything. if chris is irregular, well that sounds unimportant, but down the road that simple detail could help someone figure out something else. Logic requires detail for extrapolation of facts. more detail, more extrapolation, more facts...[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 07:03, 27 January 2012 (PST)
** a possible new motto would be "Just the facts" or "The devil is in the details"
**No, cancer would be filling up the CWCki with too many pointless details. Champ's rant was all about how we DON'T need to write about every little trivial aspect of Chris's life. It's fine to leave stupid shit out, and that's what we're trying to do. And, that is also why we are having this discussion about a possible new motto. That said, I think you have some good ideas for possible alternate mottos, and I highly encourage Champ if he's reading this to consider them. Also, you have to sign all your posts, not just your first one. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:55, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*** Define what is 'stupid' clearly... What facts should be left out? COnjecture, that should be left out.. Opinion, that should be left out... But NO FACT no matter HOW MINISCULE should ever be left out, lest it be gone forever. The simple things, the details, the minutia, thats where the truth of Chris really lies...[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 09:12, 7 February 2012 (PST)

== Linking quotes ==

Ok so i was reading the PS3 article over and notices that chris is quoted saying 'I'd throw away the cure for autism' where the word autism is linked to the autism page. well on the Pixelated_PS3 page (where the video lives that the quote comes from) autism is is also linked to the word autism.. ok here is the issue, when quoting chris on a page other then the one that has the original video, should we link the quote to that page directly? i mean we seem to link all kinds of stuff to all kinds of stuff but a barely see any quotes linked back to the source of the quote. Just asking what the protocol is for that?
*We usually do link back the quotes in the article text around them or in the quote description. I don't think that there is any set in stone policy about it, but I can't really think of any instance where a quote's source has not been linked in the article somewhere. If you can though, by all means show me where. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:55, 27 January 2012 (PST)
* if i run across it i will rectify it, the source is linked in the citation on the page i was talking about so there is a link, Chris is obviously quoted often so im sure there are quotes on pages with no back links. i guess creating citations for quotes is the best way to go.

== Megaupload and Filesharing sites ==

I've noticed that in quite a few articles that include things for download the link that lead to recently shut down file serving sites have been closed. Is it a priority to fix these? [[User:Granola|Granola]] 06:42, 13 February 2012 (PST)

== Chris an violence ==

Chris and violence have a long relationship. He has not only threatened violence, but also responded to threats of violence. He has performed tasks under the threat of violence and requested that tasks be performed with violence as an alternative..

The point here is that anger is one thing and violence is another. Chris has enough of a relationship with different areas of violence, that i believe that it deserves an article in the '''Chris and''' series.

Violence itself should not be lumped with anger. Anger is an emotion where as violence is an act (or in many cases the threat of an act) anger deals with how chris feels toward a specific situation where as violence deals with how Chris acts. im not a great christorian but i know enough to understand that ''''Chris and violence'''' is a subject that deserves a page on this wiki... [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 05:31, 9 March 2012 (PST)
*First, we already have the [[Death Threats]] article, so that kind of counts. Second, Chris is pretty much [[Power|incapable]] of violence anyway (unless he gets his hands on a gun, but why would he buy a gun when that can go into [[vidya]]?), so anger and threats are all he's going to get. While I agree that he does seem to resort to violence pretty often, I have to say that he often channels that anger into various things we already have articles on, whether it be the [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] or the death threats previously mentioned. [[User:Boriki|Boriki]] 20:42, 22 March 2012 (PDT)
** Im not entirely convinced. The article i was thinking about is not just focused on chris DOING violence, but how he perceives violence, his bigotry regarding violence, and how he reacts to threats of violence. Basically chris is a bully, a pussy and generally has no empathy.[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 05:01, 23 March 2012 (PDT)
***Sounds rather pointless to me. The Chris and series in general just seems to be a way to take potshots at Chris nowadays, but they do have their place and they do cover a lot of things that would be hard to place into other articles. [[Chris and the law]] for instance I think is a page we needed to have. It could have ''maybe'' been placed into the [[Jerkop]] article, but it would have been wildly out of place. Now Chris and Violence on the other hand is something that very easily folds into articles like [[Death Threats]] and [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]], or even [[Chris and anger]]. Really, if you want to go into Chris's perception of violence, most of what you'd come up with would be ninety percent speculation anyway. You can try to write up the article yourself, and if anything is salvageable and CWCki appropriate we could make it into a [[Chris and anger]] subsection, but it's hardly appropriate for its own article. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:38, 23 March 2012 (PDT)

== A-Logging ==

I've been thinking, what would you all think of a page covering "A-Logging", that is thinking that Chris is worse than Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot combine and deserves to be punished? I think this issue is sort of the opposite extreme of [[White knighting]] which we deal with. Now, I bring this up here because I ask - do you think we should have a formal article about it, ala the White knighting article, or perhaps we should make a policy about it to elaborate on [[CWCki:NPOV|NPOV]]? I think we get a lot of grief that we tend to foster A-Logs, that people will read the CWCki and think Chris is an awful person who has committed crimes against humanity (which really isn't the case). Or perhaps we should do both? My concern with an actual article on it is that A-Logging hasn't really impacted Chris trolling the same way white knighting has. A-Logs don't really fuck things up, they just make normal trolls look bad.

I think we should try to be more neutral towards Chris, critical yet fair, as I believe that ideally we should be presenting information about Chris as "This is what we know about Chris" rather than "Chris is x, y, z (and they're all bad things"). So, what do you all think? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:59, 29 April 2012 (PDT)
*Yes. We need an article like this. A legitimate article like the White Knight one that explains in detail just how stupid the whole idea is, and with examples of what has resulted from it. In particular, I think we should point out that A-Log managed to get his own Encyclopedia Dramatica page from doing so. That will deter this sperginess if nothing else. While we're at it, I also think that links to this page should be added into the CWCki's welcome message so that new users are directed to it, and it should get linked on the front page, at least for a little while, so that as many thirteen year old youtubers as possible see it. I also would not object to A-Logging being made a temporarily bannable offence, just so we can get rid of those that ignore it. I know the forums are already considered a hive for sperginess, but that's a reputation that does not need to be attached to actual wiki users. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:11, 1 May 2012 (PDT)

== Activity meter ==

I was wondering if we could setup an activity meter, kind of like the defcon or the homeland security color system. It would theoretically measure how active chris is. Just thought ot would be a nice graphic that we could update when his activity level changes. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 09:26, 30 April 2012 (PDT)
*One of the few ideas Slimz has ever had that I'm fully behind. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:12, 1 May 2012 (PDT)

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2012-05-01T13:11:54Z

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=="No shit is too minor"==

This is something that's been on my mind for a while and I feel like getting it off my chest now. It's about our motto "No shit is too minor." I get this impression that people think it means "We have a duty to document every facet of Chris, we must know everything about Chris, if Chris takes a shit we need to document it and keep track of his bowel movements." I think that isn't the case.

First off, "no shit is too minor" is something someone just came up with one day and I thought it suited us well. It's not something I came up with or anything, but I've liked it because what I've always interpreted it as is "We shouldn't overlook things about Chris." At times, people can be like "Oh, we don't need to worry about this recording, we've looked over it before," that is that they will overlook material about Chris or not think it's important. I think the "no shit is too minor" in that as wiki editors we should dig through the content we do have and try and find new insights about Chris in it. For instance, when I first watched the [[The 24th Wedding Anniversary Special]] I didn't think much of it. I was like "Okay, Chris is rambling on and doing Animal Crossing shit, who cares?" But then I watched it another day and noticed that he talks a lot about his parents and how they met, that's some pretty significant information. It doesn't mean we have to analyze his choice of font in the video, or we need to do a Freudian analysis of his music choices, but merely we shouldn't overlook things.

Anyways, I could go on but what I think we need to do is not to overlook the little things, that's how I've interpreted, rather than "Chris has a bowel movement, we need to document it and we need to know Chris's regularity" which is how I see a lot of people interpret it as.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:25, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*I agree completely, and encourage you to consider getting a new motto. I think the current one brings out people's spergy side. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:28, 27 January 2012 (PST)
** as i have said before, once you start leaving out details its like cancer. its all or nothing eventually. Either include everything because you never know what is or is going to be important (Elvis died on the crapper), or just dont include anything. if chris is irregular, well that sounds unimportant, but down the road that simple detail could help someone figure out something else. Logic requires detail for extrapolation of facts. more detail, more extrapolation, more facts...[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 07:03, 27 January 2012 (PST)
** a possible new motto would be "Just the facts" or "The devil is in the details"
**No, cancer would be filling up the CWCki with too many pointless details. Champ's rant was all about how we DON'T need to write about every little trivial aspect of Chris's life. It's fine to leave stupid shit out, and that's what we're trying to do. And, that is also why we are having this discussion about a possible new motto. That said, I think you have some good ideas for possible alternate mottos, and I highly encourage Champ if he's reading this to consider them. Also, you have to sign all your posts, not just your first one. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:55, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*** Define what is 'stupid' clearly... What facts should be left out? COnjecture, that should be left out.. Opinion, that should be left out... But NO FACT no matter HOW MINISCULE should ever be left out, lest it be gone forever. The simple things, the details, the minutia, thats where the truth of Chris really lies...[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 09:12, 7 February 2012 (PST)

== Linking quotes ==

Ok so i was reading the PS3 article over and notices that chris is quoted saying 'I'd throw away the cure for autism' where the word autism is linked to the autism page. well on the Pixelated_PS3 page (where the video lives that the quote comes from) autism is is also linked to the word autism.. ok here is the issue, when quoting chris on a page other then the one that has the original video, should we link the quote to that page directly? i mean we seem to link all kinds of stuff to all kinds of stuff but a barely see any quotes linked back to the source of the quote. Just asking what the protocol is for that?
*We usually do link back the quotes in the article text around them or in the quote description. I don't think that there is any set in stone policy about it, but I can't really think of any instance where a quote's source has not been linked in the article somewhere. If you can though, by all means show me where. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:55, 27 January 2012 (PST)
* if i run across it i will rectify it, the source is linked in the citation on the page i was talking about so there is a link, Chris is obviously quoted often so im sure there are quotes on pages with no back links. i guess creating citations for quotes is the best way to go.

== Megaupload and Filesharing sites ==

I've noticed that in quite a few articles that include things for download the link that lead to recently shut down file serving sites have been closed. Is it a priority to fix these? [[User:Granola|Granola]] 06:42, 13 February 2012 (PST)

== Chris an violence ==

Chris and violence have a long relationship. He has not only threatened violence, but also responded to threats of violence. He has performed tasks under the threat of violence and requested that tasks be performed with violence as an alternative..

The point here is that anger is one thing and violence is another. Chris has enough of a relationship with different areas of violence, that i believe that it deserves an article in the '''Chris and''' series.

Violence itself should not be lumped with anger. Anger is an emotion where as violence is an act (or in many cases the threat of an act) anger deals with how chris feels toward a specific situation where as violence deals with how Chris acts. im not a great christorian but i know enough to understand that ''''Chris and violence'''' is a subject that deserves a page on this wiki... [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 05:31, 9 March 2012 (PST)
*First, we already have the [[Death Threats]] article, so that kind of counts. Second, Chris is pretty much [[Power|incapable]] of violence anyway (unless he gets his hands on a gun, but why would he buy a gun when that can go into [[vidya]]?), so anger and threats are all he's going to get. While I agree that he does seem to resort to violence pretty often, I have to say that he often channels that anger into various things we already have articles on, whether it be the [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] or the death threats previously mentioned. [[User:Boriki|Boriki]] 20:42, 22 March 2012 (PDT)
** Im not entirely convinced. The article i was thinking about is not just focused on chris DOING violence, but how he perceives violence, his bigotry regarding violence, and how he reacts to threats of violence. Basically chris is a bully, a pussy and generally has no empathy.[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 05:01, 23 March 2012 (PDT)
***Sounds rather pointless to me. The Chris and series in general just seems to be a way to take potshots at Chris nowadays, but they do have their place and they do cover a lot of things that would be hard to place into other articles. [[Chris and the law]] for instance I think is a page we needed to have. It could have ''maybe'' been placed into the [[Jerkop]] article, but it would have been wildly out of place. Now Chris and Violence on the other hand is something that very easily folds into articles like [[Death Threats]] and [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]], or even [[Chris and anger]]. Really, if you want to go into Chris's perception of violence, most of what you'd come up with would be ninety percent speculation anyway. You can try to write up the article yourself, and if anything is salvageable and CWCki appropriate we could make it into a [[Chris and anger]] subsection, but it's hardly appropriate for its own article. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:38, 23 March 2012 (PDT)

== A-Logging ==

I've been thinking, what would you all think of a page covering "A-Logging", that is thinking that Chris is worse than Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot combine and deserves to be punished? I think this issue is sort of the opposite extreme of [[White knighting]] which we deal with. Now, I bring this up here because I ask - do you think we should have a formal article about it, ala the White knighting article, or perhaps we should make a policy about it to elaborate on [[CWCki:NPOV|NPOV]]? I think we get a lot of grief that we tend to foster A-Logs, that people will read the CWCki and think Chris is an awful person who has committed crimes against humanity (which really isn't the case). Or perhaps we should do both? My concern with an actual article on it is that A-Logging hasn't really impacted Chris trolling the same way white knighting has. A-Logs don't really fuck things up, they just make normal trolls look bad.

I think we should try to be more neutral towards Chris, critical yet fair, as I believe that ideally we should be presenting information about Chris as "This is what we know about Chris" rather than "Chris is x, y, z (and they're all bad things"). So, what do you all think? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:59, 29 April 2012 (PDT)
*Yes. We need an article like this. A legitimate article like the White Knight one that explains in detail just how stupid the whole idea is, and with examples of what has resulted from it. In particular, I think we should point out that A-Log managed to get his own Encyclopedia Dramatica page from doing so. That will deter this sperginess if nothing else. While we're at it, I also think that links to this page should be added into the CWCki's welcome message so that new users are directed to it, and it should get linked on the front page, at least for a little while, so that as many thirteen year old youtubers as possible see it. I also would not object to A-Logging being made a temporarily bannable offence, just so we can get rid of those that ignore it. I know the forums are already considered a hive for sperginess, but that's a reputation that does not need to be attached to actual wiki users. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:11, 1 May 2012 (PDT)

== Activity meter ==

I was wondering if we could setup an activity meter, kind of like the defcon or the homeland security color system. It would theoretically measure how active chris is. Just thought ot would be a nice graphic that we could update when his activity level changes. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 09:26, 30 April 2012 (PDT)

User:Old meme/Sandbox

2012-04-24T17:55:33Z

Old meme: work in progress. will be back to finish later.

{{quote|[[Mary Lee Walsh|That *&^%$]] SHATTERED MY HEART AND MURDERED MY SOUL. And it wasn't just her, the Policemen Imposters in Brown, White and Red, AKA The Jerkops (Blue and Black ARE the TRUE POLICE SOLDIERS) also seriously indented the impression that "[[Virgina is for Virgins]], NOT Lovers".}}

[[Image:146-Jerkop.jpg|thumb|A REAL AMERICAN HERO]]

A '''Jerkop''' is [[Chris]]'s name for either a mall security guard or an [[Bagget|"evil" police officer]]. The word itself is a portmanteau of "[[JERKS|JERK]]" and "cop." Female Jerkops are sometimes called '''Janekops'''.<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Private_villa_of_corrupted_citizens#Jerkops.2C_Janekops.2C_ATTACK.21</ref>

Chris included the Jerkops in his [[Sonichu (comic)|comics]], where they served as the villainous private army of [[Mary Lee Walsh]], until Sonichu liberates them from Mary's control in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu #10'']]

==Creation of a Jerkop==
According to the [[CWCipedia]], Jerkops are normal men and women who ended up attending [[Mary Lee Walsh|Slaweel Ryam]]'s school, known as "Prowldent Virginia Community College." Upon entering the school for the first day, they are unwittingly infected with "brainwashing powder" that subconsciously affects them. They can live normal lives, but once Slaweel has need for them, she'll activate the brainwashing, and the Jerkops will don their uniforms and go cockblock Chris.

As seen in Chris's [[Sonichu 4#Sub-Episode 6: "Christian Chandler's Backyard Safari"|earlier documentation]], the Jerkops also make use of a "Hypno-Gun" to add to their numbers, since they have such a [[virgin with rage|hard time reproducing]]. In describing the hypno-gun, Chris made it very clear that the Jerkop brainwashing only worked on "[[slow-in-the-minds]]", and others of [[Christian Weston Chandler|lesser intelligence]]. It wasn't until [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu #9'']] where any mention was made of the idea of un-brainwashing the Jerkops, and even then Chris makes clear that his [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] have managed to actually [[I'LL BREAK YOU DEAD|''kill'']] several of the completely innocent retards in their fights.

Whatever the previous method of un-brainwashing the Jerkops that Sonichu and company manage not to outright murder, it becomes a moot point in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu #10'']], when [[Ultra Sonichu]] uses his [[GodJesus|nigh-omnipotence]] to supposedly [[Chris and writing|cure all Jerkops everywhere forever]].

Interestingly, while Chris's later CWCipedia articles would explain that the Jerkops were simply brainwashed normal humans, his earlier documentation on Jerkops, particularly the "Backyard Safari" feature in [[Sonichu 4|''Sonichu #4'']], seem to imply that Jerkops are anything but normal, saying that most, though not all of them were hideously deformed. He says that they wear black pants to cover their "agil [sic], yet ugly legs; viens [sic], hair, and sores oh, my!", that they have "sausage feet", and that some of them are forced to wear a black glove on one hand to disguise the fact that one of their fingers fell off while they were growing up. Why so many Jerkops coincidentally seem to have had fingers simply fall off at an unspecified time in childhood is never explained.

It's never quite clear why most Jerkops suffer from these conditions, but Chris has many times expressed the sentiment that the mentally disabled and physically deformed are interchangeable.<ref>Mailbag 5</ref><ref>Mailbag 11</ref> Given that Chris established that only [[slow-in-the-minds]] can be made into Jerkops, it's entirely possible that them all being deformed is just Chris's prejudice against the disabled shining through.

==Police?==
{{quote|And so, I urge you the citizens of CWCville to remember, with the police, only black and blue are true; all other colors are VICE!|Chris displays his irrational hatred of the Vice Squad, [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu #5'']], page 28}}

[[File:IwouldntfeelcomfortableMySpace.jpg|thumb|"Police-Women" on Chris's [[dating]] blacklist]]

While a common misconception is that [[Chris]] is essentially delivering a verbose "Fuck tha Police" through the Jerkop characters, he clarifies in [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu #5'']] that [[Niggos|brown]] (mall security) is wrong, while more common black and blue (police officers) are [[Honest Content|TRUE and HONEST]]. A lot of what Chris wrote about the Jerkops is a feeble effort to undermine the authority of private security staff by comparing them unfavorably with the police. So in mocking the Jerkops' "cracker" badges and hyping "the true police people", Chris ironically puts the police on a pedestal.

That said, Chris holds a very narrow definition of what a "true" police officer is. When describing the origins of the Jerkops on CWCipedia, Chris again points out that they wore uniforms "OF COLORS OTHER THAN BLUE OR BLACK." This seems to be a major sticking point for Chris regardless of his past run-ins with the law. As far as he's apparently concerned, the color of a cop's uniform is the sole signifier of his authority, even though many police officers wear brown or white uniforms whether Chris approves or not. Whatever he was wearing at the time, [[Bagget|Marcus Baggett]] was definitely a real police officer when he arrested Chris in 2004. Nevertheless, Chris still lumped him into the same category as all the security guards who gave him a hard time. So, according to Chris, cops are only okay as long as they wear blue and black AND they don't try to arrest him for breaking the [[law]].

While [[CWCville]] has a police department in ''Sonichu'', they rarely ever appear, except to support Chris and Sonichu while they defend the city instead. In [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu #5'']] Chris dismisses them from the battlefield as soon as he arrives, and in [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu #9'']] they're only mentioned as part of the city's defenses. Finally, in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu #10'']], Chris introduces [[Constables Gerald Grant and Louis Perez]], when Magi-Chan sends them to check [[Inos]] into a soup hotel.

==Appearance and characteristics==
[[Image:Jerkops2004.jpg|thumb|left|Some Jerkops watch [[Chris-Chan Sonichu]] levitate in a [[2004]] short.]]

Jerkops typically resemble human beings wearing red, white, or brown police-style uniforms. As mentioned above, they usually sport physical deformities or other [[Fangs|unattractive]] [[Creepy stare|features]], such as sores or visible veins. Being brainwashed, they're also completely loyal to [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|PVCC]]. For unclear reasons, this brainwashing also makes them look constantly angry and makes them only ever think "evil and naughty thoughts". Chris explains most of this in [[Sonichu 4|''Sonichu #4'']]:

{{quote|Let's look at one on this illustration. Now here, we see its head is a basic human shape, but it only thinks evil and naughty thoughts. Note, its eyes are frowning; the [sic] stay that way 24/7. With this face, they rarely attract any women. This "badge" is a phony; it's really a cracker, covered in glitter-glue. It wards away all who approach it with its out-of-date breadstick. They wear basic black pants to cover their agil [sic], yet ugly legs; viens [sic], hair, and sores oh, my! Some, not all, wear a black gove [sic] to cover the spot where one finger fell of [sic] as it grew up. They wear brown shoes, because of their sausage feet.}}

Rank and file Jerkops are depicted in an [[Chris and art|even simpler fashion]] than the other background characters in the [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'' comics]]. Their legs are often held tightly together, as if they move via tiny wheels on the undersides of their feet. They have plain, curved, vase-like white bodies. Their female counterparts, Janekops, look about the same, except for their prominent breasts and neck-length hairstyles.

Chris would later elaborate on the Jerkop uniforms on the [[CWCipedia]]. White uniforms were for low-class Jerkops, such as new recruits. Red uniforms were for an intermediate rank, possessing "Good Amount of Expierences and Combat Skills." Finally, brown uniforms were for the highest class, including [[Jerkhief]]s and Jerkop Daitenzens such as Bagget.<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Private_villa_of_corrupted_citizens#The_Construction_of_the_PVCCitizens_Building</ref>

==Jerkop variants==
[[Image:Janekops.jpg|thumb|100px|You have the right to remain ''sexayyyyy'']]

As well as the regular versions that Chris and his characters fight in large numbers throughout the series, several other variants of the standard Jerkop have shown up in the comics.

===Janekops===
Female [[Jerkops]]. Chris suggested the possibility of female Jerkops in [[Sonichu 4|''Sonichu #4'']], by describing a "Hypno-gun" the Jerkops use to transform retarded people into new Jerkops. Presumably, then, any Janekop would be a female victim of such a weapon. Jerkops with tits would be seen standing guard at [[PVCC]] in [[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu #7'']], so these are most likely the same Janekops Chris suggested earlier.

Why female Jerkops are not named the same as their male counterparts isn't ever said, but Chris most likely felt the need to give them a different name because his use of the word [[JERKS]] to describe anyone refers to men exclusively.

===Mecha-Jerkops===
[[Image:Mecha-jerkops.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Like Robocop, only... no, actually, they're nothing like Robocop at all.]]

Robotic minions of the [[Jerkops]], the Mecha-Jerkops first appeared in [[Sonichu 3|''Sonichu #3'']]. Humanoid in appearance, the Mecha-Jerkops are about half the size of normal humans, and are dressed and armed to resemble human Jerkops in every other respect. Because of this, and Chris's [[Chris and art|inconsistent depiction]] of scale and perspective, it is difficult to distinguish Mecha-Jerkops from their organic counterparts, and they may have appeared in subsequent issues without being named.

In [[Sub-Episode 4]], "McAttack Part 1", [[B-Manajerk]] explains that the [[Jerkhief]] informed him of [[Chris]] and his [[Love Quest]]. To help the [[Manajerks]] at [[Mal-Wart]] defeat Chris, the Jerkhief sent a pair of Mecha-Jerkops to help the B-Manajerk, and his partner, the [[Merried Seinor Comic]]. Before the Mecha-Jerkops could act however, they were cut down by [[Darkbind Sonichu]], who had come to aid Chris in his battle.

[[Chris and writing|The Mecha-Jerkops were never referenced again after that issue]].

==Equipment==

{{quote|MY WOODEN BADGE WAS DELICIOUS|[[Jerkhief]], [[Sonichu 4|''Sonichu #4'']] cover}}

[[Image:Freudiangun.jpg|right|thumb|A pistol, cleverly disguised as a [[duck]].]]

Jerkops, in addition to their various differently colored uniforms, are also identified by their faux police badges, made of crackers, glitter glue, and tree bark.<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_4/Page_56</ref>

In terms of weaponry, most Jerkops carry a stale breadstick, in place of a traditional nightstick. The Jerkops also used handcuffs on at least one occasion, although this may not be standard issue. The [[Jerkhief]] carries a "metal slingshot" and sometimes wears a suit of armor. [[Bagget]], Jerkop Daitenzen, wields a sword, and his costume comes with a [[Power Rangers]]-esque helmet. His uniform seems resilient enough to protect him from the worst of [[Chris-Chan Sonichu]]'s electrical attacks.

The Jerkops also employ several [[Transformers]] for transportation and battle, collectively known as the [[Decepti-Clones]]. These include "Punislavs", which transform into brown police cruisers, "Scoundrals [sic] as Vessels", which transform into armored S.U.V.s, and "Crackders", which transform into dark blue jet planes. The Crackder model proved instrumental in Bagget's capture of Chris in [[Sonichu 4|''Sonichu #4'']].

==Weaknesses==
[[Image:Cwckicktothenads.JPG|left|thumb|150px|This is how Chris deals with people who tell him to GTFO.]]

As demonstrated by Chris in the comic, the best way to reduce those who prevent you from violating the law to a quivering pile of jelly is [[CWC Fighter|a good kick]] in the balls, or as Chris calls it, the "[[Minor CWC-isms|Sourdough region]]." The lowest levels of Jerkop require only a single kick, while higher-level Jerkops such as the [[Jerkhief]] may require as many as five kicks, because their [[Obesity|fat]] absorbs the impact.

==Appearances in comic==
*[[Sonichu_0#Sub-Episode_1:_Christian_Chandler_in_.22Jerkop-tastropie.22|Sonichu 0 Sub-Episode 1:Christian Chandler in "Jerkop-Tastrophe"]]
*[[Sonichu_4#Sub-Episode_6:_.22Christian_Chandler.27s_Backyard_Safari.22|Sonichu 4 Sub Episode 6: "Christian Chandler's Backyard Safari"]]
*[[Sonichu_4#Sub-Episode_7:_Christian_Chandler_in_.22Off-Target.22|Sonichu 4 Sub-Episode 7: "Off-Target"]]
*[[Sonichu_4#Sub-Episode_8:_Christian_Chandler_in_.22Off-Target_part_2.22|Sonichu 4 Sub-Episode 8: "Off-Target part 2"]]
*[[Sonichu_5#Episode_13:_.22Smashed_Hearts_.26_Entrapment.22|Sonichu 5 Episode 13: "Smashed Hearts & Entrapment"]]
*[[Sonichu_6#Episode_14:_.22Evil_is_Afoot.21.22|Sonichu 6 Episode 14: "Evil is Afoot!"]]
*[[Sonichu_7#Episode_16:_.22Time_Hogs.22|Sonichu 7 Episode 16: "Time Hogs"]]
*[[Sonichu_9#Episode_20:_CWC-Defense|Sonichu 9 Episode 20: "CWC-Defense"]]
*[[Sonichu_10#Episode_21:_Christian_Chandler_in_Director_Amenities|Sonichu 10 Episode 21: Christian Chandler in "Director Amenities"]]

==References==
<references/>

==See also==
{{Fan art|chris=Jerkops|linkname=Jerkops}}
*[[List of Sonichu characters#Janekops|Janekops]]
*[[Manajerks]]
*[[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens]]
*[[Chris and the Law]]
*[[Jerkops]]
*[[Jerkhief]]
*[[Manajerks]]

*[[Jerkhief]]
*[[Bagget]]
*[[Punislav]]

{{Sonichu}}
[[Category:Villains]]

User:Old meme/Sandbox

2012-04-24T17:03:14Z

Old meme:

{{quote|[[Mary Lee Walsh|That *&^%$]] SHATTERED MY HEART AND MURDERED MY SOUL. And it wasn't just her, the Policemen Imposters in Brown, White and Red, AKA The Jerkops (Blue and Black ARE the TRUE POLICE SOLDIERS) also seriously indented the impression that "[[Virgina is for Virgins]], NOT Lovers".}}

[[Image:146-Jerkop.jpg|thumb|A REAL AMERICAN HERO]]

A '''Jerkop''' is [[Chris]]'s name for either a mall security guard or an [[Bagget|"evil" police officer]]. The word itself is a portmanteau of "[[JERKS|JERK]]" and "cop." Female Jerkops are sometimes called '''Janekops'''.<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Private_villa_of_corrupted_citizens#Jerkops.2C_Janekops.2C_ATTACK.21</ref>

Chris included the Jerkops in his [[Sonichu (comic)|comics]], where they served as the villainous private army of [[Mary Lee Walsh]], until Sonichu liberates them from Mary's control in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu #10'']]

==Creation of a Jerkop==
According to the [[CWCipedia]], Jerkops are normal men and women who ended up attending [[Mary Lee Walsh|Slaweel Ryam]]'s school, known as "Prowldent Virginia Community College." Upon entering the school for the first day, they are unwittingly infected with "brainwashing powder" that subconsciously affects them. They can live normal lives, but once Slaweel has need for them, she'll activate the brainwashing, and the Jerkops will don their uniforms and go cockblock Chris.

As seen in Chris's [[Sonichu 4#Sub-Episode 6: "Christian Chandler's Backyard Safari"|earlier documentation]], the Jerkops also make use of a "Hypno-Gun" to add to their numbers, since they have such a [[virgin with rage|hard time reproducing]]. In describing the hypno-gun, Chris made it very clear that the Jerkop brainwashing only worked on "[[slow-in-the-minds]]", and others of [[Christian Weston Chandler|lesser intelligence]]. It wasn't until [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu #9'']] where any mention was made of the idea of un-brainwashing the Jerkops, and even then Chris makes clear that his [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] have managed to actually [[I'LL BREAK YOU DEAD|''kill'']] several of the completely innocent retards in their fights.

Whatever the previous method of un-brainwashing the Jerkops that Sonichu and company manage not to outright murder, it becomes a moot point in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu #10'']], when [[Ultra Sonichu]] uses his [[GodJesus|nigh-omnipotence]] to supposedly [[Chris and writing|cure all Jerkops everywhere forever]].

Interestingly, while Chris's later CWCipedia articles would explain that the Jerkops were simply brainwashed normal humans, his earlier documentation on Jerkops, particularly the "Backyard Safari" feature in [[Sonichu 4|''Sonichu #4'']], seem to imply that Jerkops are anything but normal, saying that most, though not all of them were hideously deformed. He says that they wear black pants to cover their "agil [sic], yet ugly legs; viens [sic], hair, and sores oh, my!", that they have "sausage feet", and that some of them are forced to wear a black glove on one hand to disguise the fact that one of their fingers fell off while they were growing up. Why so many Jerkops coincidentally seem to have had fingers simply fall off at an unspecified time in childhood is never explained.

It's never quite clear why most Jerkops suffer from these conditions, but Chris has many times expressed the sentiment that the mentally disabled and physically deformed are interchangeable.<ref>Mailbag 5</ref><ref>Mailbag 11</ref> Given that Chris established that only [[slow-in-the-minds]] can be made into Jerkops, it's entirely possible that them all being deformed is just Chris's prejudice against the disabled shining through.

==Police?==
{{quote|And so, I urge you the citizens of CWCville to remember, with the police, only black and blue are true; all other colors are VICE!|Chris displays his irrational hatred of the Vice Squad, [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu #5'']], page 28}}

[[File:IwouldntfeelcomfortableMySpace.jpg|thumb|"Police-Women" on Chris's [[dating]] blacklist]]

While a common misconception is that [[Chris]] is essentially delivering a verbose "Fuck tha Police" through the Jerkop characters, he clarifies in [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu #5'']] that [[Niggos|brown]] (mall security) is wrong, while more common black and blue (police officers) are [[Honest Content|TRUE and HONEST]]. A lot of what Chris wrote about the Jerkops is a feeble effort to undermine the authority of private security staff by comparing them unfavorably with the police. So in mocking the Jerkops' "cracker" badges and hyping "the true police people", Chris ironically puts the police on a pedestal.

That said, Chris holds a very narrow definition of what a "true" police officer is. When describing the origins of the Jerkops on CWCipedia, Chris again points out that they wore uniforms "OF COLORS OTHER THAN BLUE OR BLACK." This seems to be a major sticking point for Chris regardless of his past run-ins with the law. As far as he's apparently concerned, the color of a cop's uniform is the sole signifier of his authority, even though many police officers wear brown or white uniforms whether Chris approves or not. Whatever he was wearing at the time, [[Bagget|Marcus Baggett]] was definitely a real police officer when he arrested Chris in 2004. Nevertheless, Chris still lumped him into the same category as all the security guards who gave him a hard time. So, according to Chris, cops are only okay as long as they wear blue and black AND they don't try to arrest him for breaking the [[law]].

While [[CWCville]] has a police department in ''Sonichu'', they rarely ever appear, except to support Chris and Sonichu while they defend the city instead. In [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu #5'']] Chris dismisses them from the battlefield as soon as he arrives, and in [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu #9'']] they're only mentioned as part of the city's defenses. Finally, in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu #10'']], Chris introduces Constables Lou Perez and Gerald Grant, when Magi-Chan sends them to check Inos into a soup hotel.

==Appearance==
[[Image:Jerkops2004.jpg|thumb|left|Standard Jerkops watch [[Chris-Chan Sonichu|some shitty recolor]] levitate in a [[2004]] short.]]

Jerkops typically resemble human beings wearing red, white, or brown police-style uniforms. Chris goes into greater detail in his "Backyard Safari" feature in [[Sonichu #4]]:

{{quote|Let's look at one on this illustration. Now here, we see its head is a basic human shape, but it only thinks evil and naughty thoughts. Note, its eyes are frowning; the [sic] stay that way 24/7. With this face, they rarely attract any women. This "badge" is a phony; it's really a cracker, covered in glitter-glue. It wards away all who approach it with its out-of-date breadstick. They wear basic black pants to cover their agil[sic], yet ugly legs; viens [sic], hair, and sores oh, my! Some, not all, wear a black gove [sic] to cover the spot where one finger fell of [sic] as it grew up. They wear brown shoes, because of their sausage feet.}}

Rank and file Jerkops are depicted in an even simpler fashion than the other background characters in the [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'' comics]]. Their legs are often held tightly together, as if they move via tiny wheels on the undersides of their feet. They have plain, curved, vase-like white bodies. Their female counterparts, Janekops, look about the same, except for their prominent breasts and neck-length hairstyles.

Chris would later elaborate on the Jerkop uniforms on the [[CWCipedia]]. White uniforms were for low-class Jerkops, such as new recruits. Red uniforms were for an intermediate rank, possessing "Good Amount of Expierences and Combat Skills." Finally, brown uniforms were for the highest class, including Jerkhiefs and Jerkop Daitenzen such as Bagget.

<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Private_villa_of_corrupted_citizens#The_Construction_of_the_PVCCitizens_Building</ref>

==Equipment==

{{quote|MY WOODEN BADGE WAS DELICIOUS|[[Jerkhief]], [[Sonichu 4]] cover}}

[[Image:Freudiangun.jpg|right|thumb|A pistol cleverly disguised as a [[penis|duck]].]]

Jerkops, in order to cockblock everyone, are equipped with faux badges, evidently made of crackers, glitter glue, and tree bark.<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_4/Page_56</ref> What purpose these serve is unknown, as [[Chris|no one]] would be so [[Autistic|retarded]] as to fall for such a shoddy disguise.

In terms of weaponry, most Jerkops carry a stale breadstick, in place of a traditional nightstick, pulled from nowhere. The Jerkops also used handcuffs on one occasion, although this may not be standard issue. The [[Jerkhief]] carries a metal slingshot and sometimes wears a metal suit. Bagget, Jerkop Daitenzen, wields a sword, and his costume seems to protect him from the electric attacks of [[Chris-Chan Sonichu]].

The Jerkops also employ several [[Transformers|transforming robots]] for transportation and battle. These include "Punislavs", which transform into brown police cruisers, "Scoundrals as Vessels", which transform into armored S.U.V.'s, and "Crackders", which transform into dark blue jet planes. The Crackder model proved instrumental in Bagget's capture of Chris in [[Sonichu 4|Sonichu #4]].
{{clear}}

==Weaknesses==
[[Image:Cwckicktothenads.JPG|center|thumb|300px|This is how Chris deals with people who tell him to GTFO]]
As demonstrated above, the best way to reduce those who prevent you from violating the law to a quivering pile of jelly is [[CWC Fighter|a good kick]] in the balls, or as Chris calls it, the "Sourdough region." The lowest levels of Jerkop require only a single kick to this region, while higher-level Jerkops such as the [[Jerkhief]] may require as many as five kicks, because their fat absorbs the impact.

==Appearances in comic==
*[[Sonichu_0#Sub-Episode_1:_Christian_Chandler_in_.22Jerkop-tastropie.22|Sonichu 0 Sub-Episode 1:Christian Chandler in "Jerkop-Tastrophe"]]
*[[Sonichu_4#Sub-Episode_6:_.22Christian_Chandler.27s_Backyard_Safari.22|Sonichu 4 Sub Episode 6: "Christian Chandler's Backyard Safari"]]
*[[Sonichu_4#Sub-Episode_7:_Christian_Chandler_in_.22Off-Target.22|Sonichu 4 Sub-Episode 7: "Off-Target"]]
*[[Sonichu_4#Sub-Episode_8:_Christian_Chandler_in_.22Off-Target_part_2.22|Sonichu 4 Sub-Episode 8: "Off-Target part 2"]]
*[[Sonichu_5#Episode_13:_.22Smashed_Hearts_.26_Entrapment.22|Sonichu 5 Episode 13: "Smashed Hearts & Entrapment"]]
*[[Sonichu_6#Episode_14:_.22Evil_is_Afoot.21.22|Sonichu 6 Episode 14: "Evil is Afoot!"]]
*[[Sonichu_7#Episode_16:_.22Time_Hogs.22|Sonichu 7 Episode 16: "Time Hogs"]]
*[[Sonichu_9#Episode_20:_CWC-Defense|Sonichu 9 Episode 20: "CWC-Defense"]]
*[[Sonichu_10#Episode_21:_Christian_Chandler_in_Director_Amenities|Sonichu 10 Episode 21: Christian Chandler in "Director Amenities"]]

==Notable Jerkops==
*[[Jerkhief]]
*[[Bagget]]
*[[Punislav]]

[[Image:Mecha-jerkops.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Like Robocop, only... no, actually, they're nothing like Robocop at all.]]
Robotic minions of the [[Jerkops]], the [[Mecha-Jerkops]] first appeared in [[Sonichu 3|Sonichu #3]]. Humanoid in appearance, the Mecha-Jerkops are about half the size of normal humans, and are dressed and armed to resemble human Jerkops in every other respect. Because of this, and Chris's inconsistent depiction of scale and perspective, it is difficult to distinguish Mecha-Jerkops from their organic counterparts, and they may have appeared in subsequent issues without being named.

In [[Sub-Episode 4]], "McAttack Part 1", [[B-Manajerk]] explains that the [[Jerkhief]] informed him of [[Chris]] and his [[Love Quest]]. To help the Manajerks at [[Mal-Wart]] defeat Chris, the Jerkhief sent a pair of Mecha-Jerkops to help the B-Manajerk, and his partner, the [[Merried Seinor Comic]]. Before the Mecha-Jerkops could act, however, they were cut down by the sword of [[Darkbind Sonichu]], who had come to help Chris battle the Manajerks.

==Janekops==
[[Image:Janekops.jpg|thumb|100px|You have the right to remain ''sexayyyyy'']]

Female [[Jerkops]]. Chris suggested the possibility of female Jerkops in [[Sonichu 4|''Sonichu'' #4]], by describing a "Hypno-gun" the Jerkops use to transform retarded people into new Jerkops. Presumably, then, any Janekop would be a female victim of such a weapon. Jerkops with tits would be seen standing guard at [[PVCC]] in issue #7, so these are most likely the same Janekops Chris suggested earlier.

==References==
<references/>

==See also==
{{Fan art|chris=Jerkops|linkname=Jerkops}}
*[[List of Sonichu characters#Janekops|Janekops]]
*[[Manajerks]]
*[[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens]]
*[[Chris and the Law]]
*[[Jerkops]]
*[[Jerkhief]]
*[[Manajerks]]

{{Sonichu}}
[[Category: Villains]]

User:Old meme/Sandbox

2012-04-24T15:29:56Z

Old meme: Hey, I just discovered that all my previous summaries show up as suggestions when I type in this box on Chrome now. Neat!

{{quote|[[Mary Lee Walsh|That *&^%$]] SHATTERED MY HEART AND MURDERED MY SOUL. And it wasn't just her, the Policemen Imposters in Brown, White and Red, AKA The Jerkops (Blue and Black ARE the TRUE POLICE SOLDIERS) also seriously indented the impression that "[[Virgina is for Virgins]], NOT Lovers".}}

[[Image:146-Jerkop.jpg|thumb|A REAL AMERICAN HERO]]
A '''Jerkop''' is either a '''mall security guard''' or an "evil" '''police officer'''. The word itself is a portmanteau of "[[JERKS|JERK]]" and "cop." Female Jerkops are sometimes called '''Janekops'''.<ref>[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Private_villa_of_corrupted_citizens#Jerkops.2C_Janekops.2C_ATTACK.21]</ref>

In the [[comic|Sonichu comics]], Jerkops serve as the villainous private army of [[Mary Lee Walsh]], until Sonichu liberates them from Mary's control in [[Sonichu 10|Sonichu #10]]

==Appearance==
[[Image:Jerkops2004.jpg|thumb|left|Standard Jerkops watch [[Chris-Chan Sonichu|some shitty recolor]] levitate in a [[2004]] short.]]

Jerkops typically resemble human beings wearing red, white, or brown police-style uniforms. Chris goes into greater detail in his "Backyard Safari" feature in [[Sonichu #4]]:

{{quote|Let's look at one on this illustration. Now here, we see its head is a basic human shape, but it only thinks evil and naughty thoughts. Note, its eyes are frowning; the[sic] stay that way 24/7. With this face, they rarely attract any women. This "badge" is a phony; it's really a cracker, covered in glitter-glue. It wards away all who approach it with its out-of-date breadstick. They wear basic black pants to cover their agil[sic], yet ugly legs; viens[sic], hair, and sores oh, my! Some, not all, wear a black gove[sic] to cover the spot where one finger fell of[sic] as it grew up. They wear brown shoes, because of their sausage feet.}}

Rank and file Jerkops are depicted in an even simpler fashion than the other background characters in the [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'' comics]]. Their legs are often held tightly together, as if they move via tiny wheels on the undersides of their feet. They have plain, curved, vase-like white bodies. Their female counterparts, Janekops, look about the same, except for their prominent breasts and neck-length hairstyles.

Chris would later elaborate on the Jerkop uniforms on the [[CWCipedia]]. White uniforms were for low-class Jerkops, such as new recruits. Red uniforms were for an intermediate rank, possessing "Good Amount of Expierences and Combat Skills." Finally, brown uniforms were for the highest class, including Jerkhiefs and Jerkop Daitenzen such as Bagget.<ref>[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Private_villa_of_corrupted_citizens#The_Construction_of_the_PVCCitizens_Building]</ref>
{{clear}}

==Police?==
{{quote|And so, I urge you the citizens of CWCville to remember, with the police, only black and blue are true; all other colors are VICE!|Chris displays his irrational hatred of the Vice Squad, [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu'' #5]], page 28}}

[[File:IwouldntfeelcomfortableMySpace.jpg|thumb|"Police-Women" on Chris's [[dating]] blacklist]]

While a common misconception is that [[Chris]] is essentially delivering a verbose "Fuck tha Police" through the Jerkop characters, he clarifies in [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu ''#5]] that [[Niggos|brown]] (mall security) is wrong, while more common black and blue (police officers) are [[Honest Content|TRUE and HONEST]]. A lot of what Chris wrote about the Jerkops is a feeble effort to undermine the authority of private security staff by comparing them unfavorably with the police. So in mocking the Jerkops' "cracker" badges and hyping "the true police people", Chris ironically puts the police on a pedestal.

That said, Chris holds a very narrow definition of what a "true" police officer is. When describing the origins of the Jerkops on CWCipedia, Chris again points out that they wore uniforms "OF COLORS OTHER THAN BLUE OR BLACK." This seems to be a major sticking point for Chris regardless of his past run-ins with the law. As far as he's apparently concerned, the color of a cop's uniform is the sole signifier of his authority, even though many police officers wear brown or white uniforms whether Chris approves or not. Whatever he was wearing at the time, [[Bagget|Marcus Baggett]] was definitely a real police officer when he arrested Chris in 2004. Nevertheless, Chris still lumped him into the same category as all the security guards who gave him a hard time. So, according to Chris, cops are only okay as long as they wear blue and black AND they don't try to arrest him for breaking the [[law]].

While [[CWCville]] has a police department in ''Sonichu'', they rarely ever appear, except to support Chris and Sonichu while they defend the city instead. In [[Sonichu 5|Sonichu #5]] Chris dismisses them from the battlefield as soon as he arrives, and in [[Sonichu 9|#9]] they're only mentioned as part of the city's defenses. Finally, in [[Sonichu 10|#10]], Chris introduces Constables Lou Perez and Gerald Grant, when Magi-Chan sends them to check Inos into a soup hotel.{{clear}}

==Equipment==

{{quote|MY WOODEN BADGE WAS DELICIOUS|[[Jerkhief]], [[Sonichu 4]] cover}}

[[Image:Freudiangun.jpg|right|thumb|A pistol cleverly disguised as a [[penis|duck]].]]

Jerkops, in order to cockblock everyone, are equipped with faux badges, evidently made of crackers, glitter glue, and tree bark<ref>[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_4/Page_56]</ref>. What purpose these serve is unknown, as [[Chris|no one]] would be so [[Autistic|retarded]] as to fall for such a shoddy disguise.

In terms of weaponry, most Jerkops carry a stale breadstick, in place of a traditional nightstick, pulled from nowhere. The Jerkops also used handcuffs on one occasion, although this may not be standard issue. The [[Jerkhief]] carries a metal slingshot and sometimes wears a metal suit. Bagget, Jerkop Daitenzen, wields a sword, and his costume seems to protect him from the electric attacks of [[Chris-Chan Sonichu]].

The Jerkops also employ several [[Transformers|transforming robots]] for transportation and battle. These include "Punislavs", which transform into brown police cruisers, "Scoundrals as Vessels", which transform into armored S.U.V.'s, and "Crackders", which transform into dark blue jet planes. The Crackder model proved instrumental in Bagget's capture of Chris in [[Sonichu 4|Sonichu #4]].
{{clear}}

==Weaknesses==
[[Image:Cwckicktothenads.JPG|center|thumb|300px|This is how Chris deals with people who tell him to GTFO]]
As demonstrated above, the best way to reduce those who prevent you from violating the law to a quivering pile of jelly is [[CWC Fighter|a good kick]] in the balls, or as Chris calls it, the "Sourdough region." The lowest levels of Jerkop require only a single kick to this region, while higher-level Jerkops such as the [[Jerkhief]] may require as many as five kicks, because their fat absorbs the impact.

==Creation of a Jerkop==

According to the CWCipedia, Jerkops are normal men and women who ended up attending [[Mary Lee Walsh|Slaweel Ryam]]'s school, known as "Prowldent Virginia Community College." Upon entering the school for the first day, they are unwittingly infected with "brainwashing powder" that subconsciously affects them. They can live normal lives, but once Slaweel has need for them, she'll activate the brainwashing, and the Jerkops will don their uniforms and go cockblock Chris.

As seen in Chris's [[Sonichu 4#Sub-Episode 6: "Christian Chandler's Backyard Safari"|earlier documentation]], the Jerkops also make use of a "Hypno-Gun" to add to their numbers, since they have such a [[virgin with rage|hard time reproducing]]. In describing the hypno-gun, Chris made it very clear that the Jerkop brainwashing only worked on "[[slow-in-the-minds]]", and others of [[Christian Weston Chandler|lesser intelligence]]. It wasn't until [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]] where any mention was made of the idea of un-brainwashing the Jerkops, and even then Chris makes clear that his Electric Hedgehogs have managed to actually [[I'LL BREAK YOU DEAD|''kill'']] several of the completely innocent retards in their fights.

Whatever the previous method of un-brainwashing the Jerkops that Sonichu and company manage not to outright murder, it becomes a moot point in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], when [[Ultra Sonichu]] uses his [[GodJesus|nigh-omnipotence]] to supposedly cure all Jerkops everywhere forever.

==Appearances in comic==
*[[Sonichu_0#Sub-Episode_1:_Christian_Chandler_in_.22Jerkop-tastropie.22|Sonichu 0 Sub-Episode 1:Christian Chandler in "Jerkop-Tastrophe"]]
*[[Sonichu_4#Sub-Episode_6:_.22Christian_Chandler.27s_Backyard_Safari.22|Sonichu 4 Sub Episode 6: "Christian Chandler's Backyard Safari"]]
*[[Sonichu_4#Sub-Episode_7:_Christian_Chandler_in_.22Off-Target.22|Sonichu 4 Sub-Episode 7: "Off-Target"]]
*[[Sonichu_4#Sub-Episode_8:_Christian_Chandler_in_.22Off-Target_part_2.22|Sonichu 4 Sub-Episode 8: "Off-Target part 2"]]
*[[Sonichu_5#Episode_13:_.22Smashed_Hearts_.26_Entrapment.22|Sonichu 5 Episode 13: "Smashed Hearts & Entrapment"]]
*[[Sonichu_6#Episode_14:_.22Evil_is_Afoot.21.22|Sonichu 6 Episode 14: "Evil is Afoot!"]]
*[[Sonichu_7#Episode_16:_.22Time_Hogs.22|Sonichu 7 Episode 16: "Time Hogs"]]
*[[Sonichu_9#Episode_20:_CWC-Defense|Sonichu 9 Episode 20: "CWC-Defense"]]
*[[Sonichu_10#Episode_21:_Christian_Chandler_in_Director_Amenities|Sonichu 10 Episode 21: Christian Chandler in "Director Amenities"]]

==Notable Jerkops==
*[[Jerkhief]]
*[[Bagget]]
*[[Punislav]]

[[Image:Mecha-jerkops.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Like Robocop, only... no, actually, they're nothing like Robocop at all.]]
Robotic minions of the [[Jerkops]], the [[Mecha-Jerkops]] first appeared in [[Sonichu 3|Sonichu #3]]. Humanoid in appearance, the Mecha-Jerkops are about half the size of normal humans, and are dressed and armed to resemble human Jerkops in every other respect. Because of this, and Chris's inconsistent depiction of scale and perspective, it is difficult to distinguish Mecha-Jerkops from their organic counterparts, and they may have appeared in subsequent issues without being named.

In [[Sub-Episode 4]], "McAttack Part 1", [[B-Manajerk]] explains that the [[Jerkhief]] informed him of [[Chris]] and his [[Love Quest]]. To help the Manajerks at [[Mal-Wart]] defeat Chris, the Jerkhief sent a pair of Mecha-Jerkops to help the B-Manajerk, and his partner, the [[Merried Seinor Comic]]. Before the Mecha-Jerkops could act, however, they were cut down by the sword of [[Darkbind Sonichu]], who had come to help Chris battle the Manajerks.

==Janekops==
[[Image:Janekops.jpg|thumb|100px|You have the right to remain ''sexayyyyy'']]

Female [[Jerkops]]. Chris suggested the possibility of female Jerkops in [[Sonichu 4|''Sonichu'' #4]], by describing a "Hypno-gun" the Jerkops use to transform retarded people into new Jerkops. Presumably, then, any Janekop would be a female victim of such a weapon. Jerkops with tits would be seen standing guard at [[PVCC]] in issue #7, so these are most likely the same Janekops Chris suggested earlier.

==References==
<references/>

==See also==
{{Fan art|chris=Jerkops|linkname=Jerkops}}
*[[List of Sonichu characters#Janekops|Janekops]]
*[[Manajerks]]
*[[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens]]
*[[Chris and the Law]]
*[[Jerkops]]
*[[Jerkhief]]
*[[Manajerks]]

{{Sonichu}}
[[Category: Villains]]

User:Old meme/Sandbox

2012-04-24T15:22:53Z

Old meme: new project

{{quote|[[Mary Lee Walsh|That *&^%$]] SHATTERED MY HEART AND MURDERED MY SOUL. And it wasn't just her, the Policemen Imposters in Brown, White and Red, AKA The Jerkops (Blue and Black ARE the TRUE POLICE SOLDIERS) also seriously indented the impression that "[[Virgina is for Virgins]], NOT Lovers".}}

[[Image:146-Jerkop.jpg|thumb|A REAL AMERICAN HERO]]
A '''Jerkop''' is either a '''mall security guard''' or an "evil" '''police officer'''. The word itself is a portmanteau of "[[JERKS|JERK]]" and "cop." Female Jerkops are sometimes called '''Janekops'''.<ref>[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Private_villa_of_corrupted_citizens#Jerkops.2C_Janekops.2C_ATTACK.21]</ref>

In the [[comic|Sonichu comics]], Jerkops serve as the villainous private army of [[Mary Lee Walsh]], until Sonichu liberates them from Mary's control in [[Sonichu 10|Sonichu #10]]

==Appearance==
[[Image:Jerkops2004.jpg|thumb|left|Standard Jerkops watch [[Chris-Chan Sonichu|some shitty recolor]] levitate in a [[2004]] short.]]

Jerkops typically resemble human beings wearing red, white, or brown police-style uniforms. Chris goes into greater detail in his "Backyard Safari" feature in [[Sonichu #4]]:

{{quote|Let's look at one on this illustration. Now here, we see its head is a basic human shape, but it only thinks evil and naughty thoughts. Note, its eyes are frowning; the[sic] stay that way 24/7. With this face, they rarely attract any women. This "badge" is a phony; it's really a cracker, covered in glitter-glue. It wards away all who approach it with its out-of-date breadstick. They wear basic black pants to cover their agil[sic], yet ugly legs; viens[sic], hair, and sores oh, my! Some, not all, wear a black gove[sic] to cover the spot where one finger fell of[sic] as it grew up. They wear brown shoes, because of their sausage feet.}}

Rank and file Jerkops are depicted in an even simpler fashion than the other background characters in the [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'' comics]]. Their legs are often held tightly together, as if they move via tiny wheels on the undersides of their feet. They have plain, curved, vase-like white bodies. Their female counterparts, Janekops, look about the same, except for their prominent breasts and neck-length hairstyles.

Chris would later elaborate on the Jerkop uniforms on the [[CWCipedia]]. White uniforms were for low-class Jerkops, such as new recruits. Red uniforms were for an intermediate rank, possessing "Good Amount of Expierences and Combat Skills." Finally, brown uniforms were for the highest class, including Jerkhiefs and Jerkop Daitenzen such as Bagget.<ref>[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Private_villa_of_corrupted_citizens#The_Construction_of_the_PVCCitizens_Building]</ref>
{{clear}}

==Police?==
{{quote|And so, I urge you the citizens of CWCville to remember, with the police, only black and blue are true; all other colors are VICE!|Chris displays his irrational hatred of the Vice Squad, [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu'' #5]], page 28}}

[[File:IwouldntfeelcomfortableMySpace.jpg|thumb|"Police-Women" on Chris's [[dating]] blacklist]]

While a common misconception is that [[Chris]] is essentially delivering a verbose "Fuck tha Police" through the Jerkop characters, he clarifies in [[Sonichu 5|''Sonichu ''#5]] that [[Niggos|brown]] (mall security) is wrong, while more common black and blue (police officers) are [[Honest Content|TRUE and HONEST]]. A lot of what Chris wrote about the Jerkops is a feeble effort to undermine the authority of private security staff by comparing them unfavorably with the police. So in mocking the Jerkops' "cracker" badges and hyping "the true police people", Chris ironically puts the police on a pedestal.

That said, Chris holds a very narrow definition of what a "true" police officer is. When describing the origins of the Jerkops on CWCipedia, Chris again points out that they wore uniforms "OF COLORS OTHER THAN BLUE OR BLACK." This seems to be a major sticking point for Chris regardless of his past run-ins with the law. As far as he's apparently concerned, the color of a cop's uniform is the sole signifier of his authority, even though many police officers wear brown or white uniforms whether Chris approves or not. Whatever he was wearing at the time, [[Bagget|Marcus Baggett]] was definitely a real police officer when he arrested Chris in 2004. Nevertheless, Chris still lumped him into the same category as all the security guards who gave him a hard time. So, according to Chris, cops are only okay as long as they wear blue and black AND they don't try to arrest him for breaking the [[law]].

While [[CWCville]] has a police department in ''Sonichu'', they rarely ever appear, except to support Chris and Sonichu while they defend the city instead. In [[Sonichu 5|Sonichu #5]] Chris dismisses them from the battlefield as soon as he arrives, and in [[Sonichu 9|#9]] they're only mentioned as part of the city's defenses. Finally, in [[Sonichu 10|#10]], Chris introduces Constables Lou Perez and Gerald Grant, when Magi-Chan sends them to check Inos into a soup hotel.{{clear}}

==Equipment==

{{quote|MY WOODEN BADGE WAS DELICIOUS|[[Jerkhief]], [[Sonichu 4]] cover}}

[[Image:Freudiangun.jpg|right|thumb|A pistol cleverly disguised as a [[penis|duck]].]]

Jerkops, in order to cockblock everyone, are equipped with faux badges, evidently made of crackers, glitter glue, and tree bark<ref>[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_4/Page_56]</ref>. What purpose these serve is unknown, as [[Chris|no one]] would be so [[Autistic|retarded]] as to fall for such a shoddy disguise.

In terms of weaponry, most Jerkops carry a stale breadstick, in place of a traditional nightstick, pulled from nowhere. The Jerkops also used handcuffs on one occasion, although this may not be standard issue. The [[Jerkhief]] carries a metal slingshot and sometimes wears a metal suit. Bagget, Jerkop Daitenzen, wields a sword, and his costume seems to protect him from the electric attacks of [[Chris-Chan Sonichu]].

The Jerkops also employ several [[Transformers|transforming robots]] for transportation and battle. These include "Punislavs", which transform into brown police cruisers, "Scoundrals as Vessels", which transform into armored S.U.V.'s, and "Crackders", which transform into dark blue jet planes. The Crackder model proved instrumental in Bagget's capture of Chris in [[Sonichu 4|Sonichu #4]].
{{clear}}

==Weaknesses==
[[Image:Cwckicktothenads.JPG|center|thumb|300px|This is how Chris deals with people who tell him to GTFO]]
As demonstrated above, the best way to reduce those who prevent you from violating the law to a quivering pile of jelly is [[CWC Fighter|a good kick]] in the balls, or as Chris calls it, the "Sourdough region." The lowest levels of Jerkop require only a single kick to this region, while higher-level Jerkops such as the [[Jerkhief]] may require as many as five kicks, because their fat absorbs the impact.

==Creation of a Jerkop==

According to the CWCipedia, Jerkops are normal men and women who ended up attending [[Mary Lee Walsh|Slaweel Ryam]]'s school, known as "Prowldent Virginia Community College." Upon entering the school for the first day, they are unwittingly infected with "brainwashing powder" that subconsciously affects them. They can live normal lives, but once Slaweel has need for them, she'll activate the brainwashing, and the Jerkops will don their uniforms and go cockblock Chris.

As seen in Chris's [[Sonichu 4#Sub-Episode 6: "Christian Chandler's Backyard Safari"|earlier documentation]], the Jerkops also make use of a "Hypno-Gun" to add to their numbers, since they have such a [[virgin with rage|hard time reproducing]]. In describing the hypno-gun, Chris made it very clear that the Jerkop brainwashing only worked on "[[slow-in-the-minds]]", and others of [[Christian Weston Chandler|lesser intelligence]]. It wasn't until [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]] where any mention was made of the idea of un-brainwashing the Jerkops, and even then Chris makes clear that his Electric Hedgehogs have managed to actually [[I'LL BREAK YOU DEAD|''kill'']] several of the completely innocent retards in their fights.

Whatever the previous method of un-brainwashing the Jerkops that Sonichu and company manage not to outright murder, it becomes a moot point in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], when [[Ultra Sonichu]] uses his [[GodJesus|nigh-omnipotence]] to supposedly cure all Jerkops everywhere forever.

==Appearances in comic==
*[[Sonichu_0#Sub-Episode_1:_Christian_Chandler_in_.22Jerkop-tastropie.22|Sonichu 0 Sub-Episode 1:Christian Chandler in "Jerkop-Tastrophe"]]
*[[Sonichu_4#Sub-Episode_6:_.22Christian_Chandler.27s_Backyard_Safari.22|Sonichu 4 Sub Episode 6: "Christian Chandler's Backyard Safari"]]
*[[Sonichu_4#Sub-Episode_7:_Christian_Chandler_in_.22Off-Target.22|Sonichu 4 Sub-Episode 7: "Off-Target"]]
*[[Sonichu_4#Sub-Episode_8:_Christian_Chandler_in_.22Off-Target_part_2.22|Sonichu 4 Sub-Episode 8: "Off-Target part 2"]]
*[[Sonichu_5#Episode_13:_.22Smashed_Hearts_.26_Entrapment.22|Sonichu 5 Episode 13: "Smashed Hearts & Entrapment"]]
*[[Sonichu_6#Episode_14:_.22Evil_is_Afoot.21.22|Sonichu 6 Episode 14: "Evil is Afoot!"]]
*[[Sonichu_7#Episode_16:_.22Time_Hogs.22|Sonichu 7 Episode 16: "Time Hogs"]]
*[[Sonichu_9#Episode_20:_CWC-Defense|Sonichu 9 Episode 20: "CWC-Defense"]]
*[[Sonichu_10#Episode_21:_Christian_Chandler_in_Director_Amenities|Sonichu 10 Episode 21: Christian Chandler in "Director Amenities"]]

==Notable Jerkops==
*[[Jerkhief]]
*[[Bagget]]
*[[Punislav]]

==References==
<references/>

==See also==
{{Fan art|chris=Jerkops|linkname=Jerkops}}
*[[List of Sonichu characters#Janekops|Janekops]]
*[[Manajerks]]
*[[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens]]
*[[Chris and the Law]]

{{Sonichu}}
[[Category: Villains]]

[[Image:Mecha-jerkops.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Like Robocop, only... no, actually, they're nothing like Robocop at all.]]
Robotic minions of the [[Jerkops]], the [[Mecha-Jerkops]] first appeared in [[Sonichu 3|Sonichu #3]]. Humanoid in appearance, the Mecha-Jerkops are about half the size of normal humans, and are dressed and armed to resemble human Jerkops in every other respect. Because of this, and Chris's inconsistent depiction of scale and perspective, it is difficult to distinguish Mecha-Jerkops from their organic counterparts, and they may have appeared in subsequent issues without being named.

In [[Sub-Episode 4]], "McAttack Part 1", [[B-Manajerk]] explains that the [[Jerkhief]] informed him of [[Chris]] and his [[Love Quest]]. To help the Manajerks at [[Mal-Wart]] defeat Chris, the Jerkhief sent a pair of Mecha-Jerkops to help the B-Manajerk, and his partner, the [[Merried Seinor Comic]]. Before the Mecha-Jerkops could act, however, they were cut down by the sword of [[Darkbind Sonichu]], who had come to help Chris battle the Manajerks.

==See Also==
*[[Jerkops]]
*[[Jerkhief]]
*[[Manajerks]]

[[Category: Villains]]

User:Old meme/Sandbox 5

2012-04-24T15:17:33Z

Old meme:

fucking fix these articles:

*[[Michael Snyder]]
*[[The GAMe PLACe]]
*[[Get-Tar Region]]
*[[Mal-Wart]]
*[[Charlottesville Fashion Square]]
*[[Duck]]
*[[Power Rangers]]
*[[Mecha-Jerkops]]
*[[Jerkops]]
*[[Kick the Autistic]]

do the stuff in the other sandboxes too

Mailbag 18 for time paradox shit.

--[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 03:15, 22 February 2012 (PST)

User talk:Champthom

2012-04-24T13:39:45Z

Old meme:

Talk to me.

Be sure to check out the archives as well:

'''Archive:''' [[User:Champthom/Archive 1|1]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 2|2]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 3|3]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 4|4]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 5|5]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 6|6]]

== Champ, I mean it now ==
When I come on here and see that people like [[User talk:Steve Landcleamer|this mouthbreather]] have been fucking with pages while being told not to and spamming pictures of furry porn that we for some reason allow on here, and yet I have the power to neither delete the image or ban the sperg, it cuts me deep. I'm on here often enough and I've already contributed a lot to the wiki. Can you throw some Jerkop powers my way so I can sort this shit out in future? We don't have nearly enough active mods and this place seems to have this kind of shit all the time. I mean this seriously Champ, I think the CWCki could benefit a lot from more Jerkops. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:09, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
:Before you answer him, Champ, keep in mind that I've also been here a long time and am also actively contributing; so if you decided to give Old meme jerkop rights, I sure would appreciate receiving them as well. Just saying. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 09:24, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

*You both make good points. Could you point out the furry image though, the only image I've seen by him is that picture of Chris ejaculating on Anna's face, which I've incidentally deleted because I don't think it really improves the Anna article. Anyways, about quality in general - I've discussed this issue with Anonymax, and this goes for the both of you, that as regular users you have all the tools needed to improve the quality of the CWCki. If there's an incidence such as an edit war going on, you're welcome to ask any of the admins to step in to resolve the issue. For these reasons, I don't think it's needed to add more jerkops or admins for these reasons. However, if it ever got out of control, then I would consider making someone a quality control jerkop to enforce quality standards. However, I think for the most part you all have the tools you need, just keep making good edits and reverting shit like you have been doing and I think that should be sufficient.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:11, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
**He's probably talking about [[:Image:Sonichu.jpg|this picture]], which was spammed on [[CWCki:Privacy policy]]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 23:46, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

== Deletion of Fail; Effects ==

Would it be necessary to organize a project of some kind to remove red "fail" pipes from pages across the CWCki? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 11:27, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
*[http://www.sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Fail&limit=500 Here they all are]. Clean them at your leisure. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 11:57, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
:[[User:Anonybot|Anonybot]] is working on it. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 14:41, 23 April 2012 (PDT)

Fail article deleted, stupid page names corrected, Champ finally got around to deleting the furry porn. It's been a good week. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:39, 24 April 2012 (PDT)

List of Chris's edits to the CWCki

2012-04-20T15:18:55Z

Old meme:

[[Image:chrisshotweb.jpg|thumb|right|Summary of the incident.]]
After Chris discovered the [[CWCki]] in [[March 2010]], he [[Cwc_blog#14 March 2010|demanded]] that pages related to his family and [[Gal-Pal]]s be removed, giving two deadlines. Around midnight on [[April 2010|1 April]], past the second deadline, he decided to attack CWCki, signing up as [[User:GodofThunderGodofWar|GodofThunderGodofWar]]. In true CWC style, his [[Special:Contributions/GodofThunderGodofWar|vandalism]] was [[fail|less than impressive]]. In fact, due to the fact that he made them on April Fools' Day, many users just assumed that it was an elaborate and lulzy prank on the part of the administrators. But no, it was f'real. Christian's posts were aimed at altering the articles he vandalized to make the CWCki seem to be praising him. As usual Chris's [[Chris and English|tenuous grasp of grammar]] made his edits stand out like a sore thumb. Chris returned under the guise of [[User:JenkinsJinkies|JenkinsJinkies]], making several posts from 5 [[May 2010]] to 13 [[July 2010]]. He later returned as [[User:Christianchandler|Christianchandler]] in the aftermath of [[28 October 2011]], uploading three pictures of [[Michael Snyder]] on [[November 2011|4 November 2011]].

Although Chris originally demanded that the CWCki's administrators only edit or remove pages related to his friends and family, it is perhaps telling that when he finally set himself to actively vandalizing the site, he ignored those pages, choosing instead to make edits [[Chris and his Ego|glorifying himself]].

Listed below are all of Chris's edits made on both his accounts, unedited by trolls and exactly as he originally wrote them. Exception is made for headings, which in the quoteboxes where Chris put a heading is replaced with '''bold text'''.

==GodofThunderGodofWar==

[[Special:Contributions/GodofThunderGodofWar|All edits]]

===1 April, 12:35===
His first action was to edit the Did You Know? column, removing the majority of the factoids while adding a few of his own, most of which were merely rewrites of existing comments.

{{quotebox|
*...This webiste, the CWCki, is a LOAD OF BULL?
*...that Christian Chandler ALWAYS IS the mayor of [[CWCville]]?
*...that [[Pixelblocks]] are not to be confused with neither [[Pickles|Pickleblocks]] nor [[Prickly-Wicklies|Pricklyblocks]]?
*...that Chris buys healthy food, good drinks and just necessities with Good Money?
*...that Chris has been recording himself as early as [[10th grade]]?
}}

The following comments however, were left untouched.

{{quotebox|
*...that a [[Curse-ye-ham-ye-ha Retraction|Forgiveness blessing]] can counter the extreme bad luck and misfortune associated with the [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] attack?
*...that [[Chris]]'s sense of humor is [[Random-access humor|SO RANDOM XDXD]]?
*...that Chris is the [[The Game Place#Chris.27s_antics|Level Up King]]?
*...that [[Virginia is for Virgins]]?
*...that Chris really likes [[Britney Spears]] (no matter what they all say)?
:*...that his favorite song from "[[:Image:CWCSchuBrit.jpg|Air Britney]]" is ''[E-Mail My Heart]''?*
*...that Chris is a descendant of [[Anne Boleyn]], Queen of England?
}}

The unaltered DYK factoids were probably left alone because Chris failed to [[autism|notice the sarcasm]] in the comments and mistook them for compliments. [[Naive|On a troll site]]. It should also be noted that the comment about Pixelblocks was also untouched, save for Chris adding the word "not" in the middle. It was likely he perceived it to be a spelling mistake and decided to correct it, even though the word "neither" instead of "either" later in the sentence makes Chris's edit ''adding'' a mistake instead. The broken "10th grade" link was also caused by Chris, as the original version of this factoid linked to the [[Song of Christian]] instead.

*Altered for this article. This normally links to a [[Youtube]] video, but external links mess with the quotebox.

===1 April, 12:42===
He then changed the Article of the Now from [[Ian Brandon Anderson]] to himself.

{{quotebox|
[[Image:0782-CWCSpread.JPG|right|200px|lolwut.]]

'''Christian Weston Chandler''' (born '''Christopher Weston Chandler''' on 24 February [[1982]]) is a [[autism|high-functioning autistic]] [[virgin with rage|virgin]], Honest, Cool and Honest Dude, and creator of [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]], a [[brilliant]] character, starring in his own self-titled [[Sonichu (comic)|online comic book]].

His adult life has been largely defined by his goal of most Normal Human Beings; Finding their Meaning of Existence, Their True Love, Their own Self-Character. No One should ever interfere or ever make a mockery of such a tride and true quest to finding HIS own Happiness with his WOMAN who is to be his Wife.

Yes, friends, it gets far sweeter.
}}

This edit is stands as perhaps the most condensed essence of Christian to ever emerge in pseudo-paragraph format. Between the utter butchery of the English language, blatant ego stroking, and unintentional creepiness ("Yes, friends, it gets far sweeter") Christian pretty much manages to sum up what legions of trolls have spent nearly half a decade trying to record for the world. Also note that, while on a website dedicated to trolling him, he still attempts to insert links to other parts of the wiki. In all likelihood, Chris planned to vandalize these elements as well but stopped due to [[stress]]. In the original edit, the link "brilliant" instead linked to the [[Fail]] page. Much like the 10th Grade example above, Chris removed this part and created a redlink where there wasn't one before.

===1 April, 12:44===
A couple of minutes after, he made the infamous [[CWCRockin4Way.jpg]] the Picture of the Now.

{{quotebox|[[Image:CWCRockin4Way.jpg|300px|left|lolwut?]]

A recently leaked image shows an illustration by [[Chris]] having [[Sweet, Sweet Sex]] with three young women, including a white one, a black one, and one in-between.Chocolate-Vanilla Swirls!!! YAY! 8D}}

Not much needs saying here. Chris chose the image and added some [[random access humor]]. Why this image? Nobody knows. Also, the red link this time was actually put in entirely by Chris himself, rather than being another unintentional mistake. Why he thought the CWCki would have a page on "Sweet, Sweet Sex" is anyone's guess.

==JenkinsJinkies==

[[Special:Contributions/JenkinsJinkies|All edits]]

===5 May, 01:08===
In his first edit on the new account, Chris commented on [[PS3/How the PS3 is Hacked|the hacking]] of the [[PS3]], saying the supposed bug was just an antenna. However, later that day he tore out the antenna anyway, just to be safe.<ref>[[I Pimp My Ride.MOV]]</ref>

{{quotebox|
'''Dude, Really? That's an Antenna'''

I trolled around and found it. http://www.eeshops.com/ps3-wifi-antenna-tyco-19039281-w400-p-528.html --[[User:JenkinsJinkies|JenkinsJinkies]] 01:08, 5 May 2010 (UTC)}}

===8 May, 03:09 - 03:16===
Chris then turned to the [[List of Chris's PSN game downloads]], clarifying that his ''Resistance: Fall of Man'' add-on pack was not bought by the trolls who took over his [[PSN]], but his ''[[Wikipedia:Killzone_2|Killzone 2]]'' pack was.<ref>[http://www.sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=List_of_Chris's_PSN_game_downloads&diff=prev&oldid=88589 List of Chris's PSN game downloads]</ref> He also said that the ''[[wikipedia:Downfall (film)|Downfall]]'' he bought was a movie, not a video game,<ref>[http://www.sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=List_of_Chris%27s_PSN_game_downloads&action=historysubmit&diff=88592&oldid=88590 List of Chris's PSN game downloads]</ref> and removed a slanderous mockery that implied that his [[duck]] was small.<ref>[http://www.sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=List_of_Chris's_PSN_game_downloads&diff=prev&oldid=88590 List of Chris's PSN game downloads]</ref>

===3 July, 16:02 - 16:25===
Chris created the bizarre [[Coffee Place]] article, quoted below, in which he ranted about [[Amanda]], a part-time [[manajerk]], who wouldn't give Chris a ''[[Wikipedia:The Twilight Saga: Eclipse|The Twilight Saga: Eclipse]]'' Sweepstake token because he only bought a $1.09 ice cream.
{{quotebox|
{{Taxpayermoneynoinclude}}

[[Image:Burgerking.jpg|thumb|A view of the counter where behind which has its own Troublemakers.]]

'''Coffee Anyone?'''

Within this single fast-food joint of the small town of Ruckersville, VA, Bobby goes for a morning coffee and breakfast most days of the week. Sadly, though, on some of those days, along with other seinor citizens who have been going there for years for their own "Early Bird Specials", they get harassed by one or two of the snot-nosed, snooty employees.

One of which, Amanda, is one of the Part-Time [[Manajerks]] who gives her elders the coldest of shoulders. Even with the recent Twilight sweepstakes, one or two of these folks who have enjoyed the Medium Icees for a single dollar and nine cents during their limited-time promotion and received the cups with the game pieces on them, Amanda recently decided that "One Dollar is TOO LITTLE for a Piece of the Sweepstakes Action."

Amanda also really Opens Up for the Black People; she would be most friendly to any of the black people. Uncle Ruckus would really kick the shit out of the bitch for not treating us white people with good kindness and respect. All of the seinors who loyally come in for their daily morning bread would just itch for the chance to smack her ass and crack her [[china]] in due respect to the harassment she has butthurt unto them.

'''Amanda'''

Not much else is known about Amanda at the moment, but the seinors have heard that she is a mother of two (probably get a daily butthurt from her every night). She is also assumed to be still married. I feel really sorry for the dude who has put up with that woman for the amount of time they've been married.

'''More Coffee Goodness'''

It has been reported that Chrissy has been sighted there, but no photographs has been taken, aside from the one above, of him inside the restaurant.

Photographic evidence should be sent to cwcsightings(AT)hotmail.com! Also, feel free to show off to everyone around you at the time the fresh Gay Trucker Photographs are taken. Users will be greatly rewarded with [[china]] and/or [[pickle|pickles]]!
}}

This edit was the first time Chris began to make his presence known. All edits up until now under the JenkinsJinkies name were subtle. Here the subtlety ends. Chris made it obvious that it was him right from the start, from both his [[Chris and English|poor spelling]], (very few people are stupid enough to [[Merried Seinor Comic|spell "senior" as "seinor"]]), and his poor attempt to imitate what he believes [[trolls]] are like. For one thing he obviously believes trolls to be [[Chris and race|racist]], so he goes off on a tangent about black people halfway through, and he believes all trolls to have [[Chris and sex|sexual issues]], so he acts like an outright misogynist for the last paragraph. He also tried to use troll slang in the article, such as the word "butthurt", but he somehow managed to [[Honor roll|use it as a verb]]. Chris also updated the [[Template:Places|places template]] accordingly to link to his new article.

===3 July, 20:16===
After CWCkians later arrived and saw that some faggot had put up a shitty article with no citations or real evidence of anything happening, they assumed a troll pretending to be Chris, or else a [[Chris|really stupid person]], and put up a deletion template. Chris noticed and leapt to the article's defense on the talk page with this textwall.

{{quotebox|
'''Do Not Delete; Pursue for the Drama.'''

My family and I were there one morning a couple of weeks ago; my camera was screwing up with me, so I ended up with the photo of the front counter. I haven't been back for a while (Damn parents won't drive me back there), and I'm only 14.

Robert was shouting at Amanda, and eventually Chrissy joined in with an uproar so loud, it would have awaken the dead. It was in response to Amanda harassing them that day. I asked around after Robert and Chris left, without my family taking notice of me.

I can get away with anything within my reach; I'm the middle child of a set of three in my family. Sadly, we were only passing through that week on our way back from a visit with my Grandma and Grandpa in South VA; we live up in Boston.

Being bullied as a Freshman last year in my High School was no fucking picnic either. And I really loath ANYONE who is even considered "Special". I'm Special enough on my own for being invisible yet able to attract attention remotely with a mere thought or do-nothing and having to put up with the aggresiveness in my fucking family; I am very much the Master Mind in the family. My father is damned retarded.

But enough about me, I hate Chris as much as the rest of you. Stopping the presses on his books and giving up his website; it still pisses me off. If I recall correctly, it was about 10:30 when the Father and Son Duo left, so best bet is about 10:00 AM to try and intercept. I want to see Chris, if not both of them, squirm in torture from our Trolling of him. I really want to see him blow his top off again. LULZ.

Oh, and the Windows at that place were Tinted, so the photography would be best from inside the place.

For the LULZ!!!!

--[[User:JenkinsJinkies|JenkinsJinkies]] 22:16, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
}}

Here, Chris established his troll backstory and continued to try and act as close to what he believed a troll to be like as possible, this time playing the part of a [[BlueSpike|sadist]] who hates Chris because he's [[Autistic|special]] who was [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School|bullied at school]] and had [[Bob Chandler|daddy issues]]. Because that's totally what real trolls are like.

===11 July, 19:43 - 12 July, 08:05===
In response to [[Clyde Cash|Clyde]] leaving Chris a message on his user talk page, asking him for his details so he could send him his reward for providing them with information, Chris posted this strange rambling.

{{quotebox|
Thanks, man, but I'm good; I lost my young virginity with a Seinor Cheerleader; her china was sweeeeettt! Plus, as an Anon, I prefer to keep my add off of the web. I would not want Chris coming after my ass. The mindfuck that he is, I would not want to fall victim of one of his impulsive manchild rampages. I just enjoy getting the LULZ off of him.

That's all the info I got of [[Amanda]]; my family and I don't travel to South VA that often, but I'll see if I can hitch another trip and find a place to crash in VA. I wouldn't be missed; I am soo overlooked in my family.

Something else that has piqued my curiousity, from the [[Hooker incident]], I'm wondering from which luscious company or group [[Bryan Bash]] the ladies came from, specifically the company name, their website, and from within Chris's crappy (434) A.C. Because if they were out-of-his-state, I may give them a call myself. >:D

Thank you for your support, [[User:Clydec|Clydec]]; you're awesome.

--[[User:JenkinsJinkies|JenkinsJinkies]] 18:43, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
}}

The main focus of the message here seems to be establishing more troll backstory, giving excuses as to why he couldn't give Clyde his details, and dropping as many troll buzzwords as possible, like "[[4chan|Anon]]" and "[[Laughs Under Lucricities|LULZ]]". He also inquires about the hookers sent to his house by Bryan Bash, likely so he can take advantage of their services to get rid of his hated [[virgin with rage|virginity]]. Also notice how even when he's deep undercover as a Chris-hating troll, he still feels the need to bolster his own [[ego]], claiming to be genuinely afraid of Chris; something no-one other than Chris himself could ever seriously consider anything other than a joke.

When Clyde appropriately pointed out that being afraid of Chris indicated Jenkins was a pussy, Chris replied with:

{{quotebox|
Firstly, I am not a pussy; I am as wild as a serial raper. Second, I saw those videos; he is still a curiously impulsive individual. It is people like him that tend to explode in a hidden-potential fury that could be very dangerous. While you may see him as a weak fuck, I see a crazy man who will likely strike at any given moment.

During the time now, I enjoy laughing during his weaker moments, yet I still am concerned in what intelligence and fury lie within him waiting to strike. He may be only waiting and plotting for the day when he may hunt us down, one by one. We can only hope that day will never come.

--[[User:JenkinsJinkies|JenkinsJinkies]] 07:05, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
}}

Again, despite being undercover as a troll, Chris spends time trying to convince [[Clyde Cash]] and the others that he is really [[I AM STRONG|strong]], [[Honor roll|intelligent]] and will [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|probably kill them all]]. Again, things that only Chris could ever seriously believe. Also, add "wild as a serial raper" to the list of memorable Chris-Chan quotes.

===13 July, 22:24===
And of course, where would we be without a little advertising? Even while pretending to be a troll, Chris still [[Chris and his Ego|couldn't resist]] breaking cover yet again to advertise his ''[[ModNation Racers]]'' beta tracks.

{{quotebox|
'''He has his Beta Track Up'''

As well as some actually neatly recreated Hot Wheels vehicles. He locked a couple of them; the manchild must have Favorited those TWO cars from his collection. LOL His track is lengthy, and confusing, but I managed to run some laps on it. And he added a good version of the Park with a fountain, and a Beach.

Download his Beta Cwcville Track for the laughs of using the defaulted Beta Tools.--[[User:JenkinsJinkies|JenkinsJinkies]] 22:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
}}

This was Chris's last edit made to the CWCki before he then signed up for [[Trollin Train]], as part of a scheme by Clyde and [[Surfshack Tito]] to trick him into destroying his [[PS3]], a mission ending in [[The MovingForward videos|great success]]. All further JenkinsJinkies dumbfuckery is documented on the [[Trollin Train]] page.

==Christianchandler==

[[Special:Contributions/Christianchandler|All edits]]

===4 November, 18:26 - 18:32===

Chris's first action under his third account was to upload three photos of [[Michael Snyder]] taken with his [[Nintendo|3DS]] during the [[28 October 2011]] incident. The first was taken from the interior of [[The GAMe PLACe]], and was put on its CWCki article. The other two were taken from inside [[Son-Chu]] in the parking lot and were added into Snyder's article, one of them replacing an [[:File:2004 merchant of venice 008.jpg|existing image]]. Chris added his own captions, in which he hilariously [[Chris and hypocrisy|mocked]] [[Obesity|Snyder's weight]] and accused him of being a [[Pedofork|child-molesting]] [[Chris_and_religion#Judaism|Jew]].

The photos Chris uploaded are below, Chris's captions included.

<gallery>
File:HNI 0020.JPG|"The inside of the PLACe as of October 27, 2011."

File:HNI 0021.JPG|"Look at his "slender" figure."
File:HNI 0022.JPG|"Michael Snyder, the dirty '''Fat''', child-molesting <s>Jew</s> gentile."

</gallery>

===4 November, 18:40 - 18:41===

Chris proceeded to make the second photo the Picture of the Now...

{{quotebox|[[File:HNI_0021.JPG|200px|left]] [[Michael Snyder, in the flesh.]]!|}}

...And subsequently added mentions of all three to [[:Template:Da Update|Da Update]].

{{quotebox|*4 [[November 2011|October]]: [[Michael Snyder]]; up close and personal in three new "HNI" photographs.}}

===4 November 20:02 - 20:03===

Chris returned about 80 minutes later to upload two new pictures. The first is of an [[Anime|anime]] girl named XBOX360ko, apparently a human with all the features of an [[HEXBox|XBOX 360]]. He then replaced the second Snyder photo with a picture of a colorful fox. The bottom-right corner reads [[Chris and copyright|©]] [[Chris and his ego|ME ME ME ME ME]]. The purposes of both photos are [[Random-access humor|unknown]].

<gallery>
File:481px-360tankx6.jpg
File:Chrisfox.JPG
</gallery>

==Sources==
<references/>

==See also==
*[[List of Christian's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica]]
*[[CWCki]]
*[[JenkinsJinkies]]
*[[Coffee Place]]

{{The Internet}}
{{Lists}}

[[Category:Lists]]

CWCki

2012-04-20T14:47:23Z

Old meme:

{{Articleofthenow}}
''This is the article for the wiki ''about'' Chris. For more information about the wiki written ''by'' Chris, please see [[CWCipedia]]''.

[[Image:TypicalCWCkiPage.png|200px|thumb|What happens when CWCki gets [[Stress|STRESSED]]]]
[[Image:Cwcki2009.JPG|200px|thumb|Popularity of the cwcki throughout the years.]]

The '''CWCki''' (pronounced "quick-ee") was created by [[Cogsdev]], as the [[ED]] page was getting far too large for people to take. It serves as the Internet's only Wiki devoted to [[Christian Weston Chandler]], the [[autistic]] manchild that everyone loves to hate and hates to love. As with any Wiki, anyone can edit it, even YOU. Seriously though, if you're reading this, you are qualified and should be editing (just read [[Help:A Quick Guide to CWCki|this]] first).

As stated in its motto, '''no shit is too minor'''.

The CWCki also runs a forum for its members, currently hosted [http://cwcki.forumer.com/ here].

==History==
[[Image:CWCkicopter.JPG|thumb|left|One of the many members of the CWCki team, on the hunt for more information regarding autistic manchildren]]

The CWCki came to life on 110mb, the land of shitty web servers that go down every damn day.
Before the CWCki moved to cogsdev.org, it had a history of outages caused by shit servers and counter-trolls. This is a history of the CWCki:
* 25 [[January 2009]]: The CWCki's MediaWiki incarnation is founded.
* [[October 2008]]: 110mb shut down all its service for two entire weeks out of nowhere just to move to a different data center.
* [[White knight|Someone]] complained to 110mb in [[August 2009]] and everything got shut down. Then a day or two later, it was back up again.
* Due to maintenance, 110mb was closed from 13 September to 18 [[September 2009]].
* 4 [[January 2010]]: Finally, after the 9001st outage, the CWCki moved to Cogsdev.org.
* 26 [[June 2010]]: cogsdev.110mb.com is terminated from the server it was on.
* 7 [[November 2010]]: The CWCki moves from Cogsdev.org to Sonichu.com having obtained the domain name.
{{-}}

==Chris's opinion==

{{quote|With that, I respectfully ask the webmaster of the Unapproved and Detested CWCki to remove ALL PAGES Classified under their "[[Template:People|Christian Weston Chandler's Web Of Life]]" and "[[Template:Sweethearts|Sweethearts, heartsweets and gal-pals]]" Categories. I give him until Midnight of Friday March 12, 2010, Eastern Standard Time, for the Webmaster of that CWCki to Remove ALL OF THOSE PAGES, [[Chris and his Ego|or there will be trouble upon that Person directly from Me]].|[[Chris]], after discovering the CWCki, 02:03, 11 [[March 2010]] (CET).}}

The CWCki, like everything else on the [[Internet]] that criticizes him or depicts him unfavorably, is something that Chris hates. In the quote above Chris displays large amounts of his [[ego]] and as usual issues a [[death threat]]. Unfortunately for Chris, his demands did not go through. There are two reasons for this. First, his [[Clyde Cash|past track record with serious threats]] suggests that he [[stress|lacks the energy]] to put his ideas into action. Secondly, CWCkians are well aware of the solid legal standing of the website and will not cave to idle threats from autistic manchildren.

In the wee hours of 14 March 2010, Chris updated his blog, taking credit for the alteration of [[The Wallflower]]'s page and demanding that the rest of the pages mentioned earlier follow suit on or before 31 March or there would be trouble. [[Pocket knife|He IS armed]]. However, in true Chris fashion, midnight of 31 March passed with Chris doing absolutely jack shit. As if anyone was surprised.

On 2 April 2010, he tried to fulfill his threat, by making [[List of Christian's edits to the CWCki|3 minor edits]] under the name of [[User:GodofThunderGodofWar|GodofThunderGodofWar]], obviously forgetting that CWCki editors are not ''entirely'' unaware of Chris's recent favorites in video game field. His edits were reverted immediately and his user and user talk pages were bombarded with negative comments. The edits so far were mostly done to glorify him, and are not exactly the kind of hard-hitting bombastic protest CWCkians were expecting based on [[List of Christian's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica|Chris's previous assault on ED]]. It appears that this profoundly lame attack of his had bigger impact on him, because in 19 April 2010, he set up an article in CWCipedia to [http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=The_Christian_Truth list his revised truths].

{{quote|Because the Trolls and ALL such [[Chris and hypocrisy|Pig-Headed, Closed-Minded Idiots]] REFUSE to let me TELL them the Truth on THEIR websites with My Own Past Edits they have Undone, HERE is Where I Correct Some to Most of Their Pages filled with Half-Truths, Exaggerations and Lies.|Chris, glorious edit-warrior, having just suffered an epic defeat in the hands of an unjust wiki [[Manajerks|administration]].}}

Chris's only response to the CWCki in this form was the article he made for the CWCipedia named [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts]]. In it, Chris supposedly "set the record straight" about all the women in his life listed on the CWCki who we had supposedly gotten our facts wrong about, telling us what actually happened, (because we all know that Chris is far less biased than the CWCki when it comes to the subject of his own life). Naturally, he listed [[Ivy|several]] [[PandaHalo|women]] on there whom were actually confirmed trolls working for the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|people who run this very site]], thus proving that Chris's "truths" and "corrections" were really [[lies]] and mistakes all along.

Chris would later come back to the CWCki under the name [[JenkinsJinkies]], a poor [[disguises|disguise]] that fooled no-one, but one which the administrators played along with for a [[Laughs Under Lucricities|laugh]]. After a few more minor [[List of Christian's edits to the CWCki|edits]], Chris eventually left the site again, as the administrators had fooled him into thinking he had been noticed by the higher-ups and let into the secret inner circle of the [[Trollin Train|trolling cabal]]. This is what eventually led to the [[The MovingFoward videos|PS3 destruction videos]].

Following the [[28 October 2011|October 2011 Michael Snyder Bash-smash-ween]], Chris showed up as [[User:Christianchandler|Christianchandler]] to upload photographs of Snyder and The GAMe PLACe, and to accuse Snyder of being '''fat''', child-molesting and "slender" (bolding and sarcasm quotes his).

==References by Chris==
* [[Wallflower E-mails 3]] - Chris is made aware of the CWCki's existence by his [[gal-pal]] who discovered the site and assumed it was created by Chris.
* [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)]] - After seeing how well the CWCki documented all of his past relationships with women, Chris created this page to share [[Chris and reality|his side of the story]].
* [[Jackie Chat 1]] - Chris gives [[Jackie]] specific examples of how he thinks the CWCki "slanders" him.
* [[JenkinsJinkiesCwckiApplication.MOV]] - [[JenkinsJinkies]] pledges allegiance to [[Clyde Cash]] and the CWCki.
* [[LittleBigPlanet]] - In [[February 2011]], Chris posted [http://lbp.me/v/w4vcbs a quote] on his LittleBigPlanet profile and demanded that it be added to the CWCki's front page.
* [[Tomboys and Tomgirls of Virginia]] - In [[July 2011]], Chris warn his [[Tomgirl|gal-pals]] against the danger of CWCki and internet bullies
* [[Calling Out]] - In [[August 2011]], Chris demands two trolls to remove their contributions or suffer the consequences.
* [[Victory Rockout]] - Chris states (read: yells incoherently) that the CWCki is a "damn lie" and to never trust it. Apparently, if you wish to ask questions, [[Mailbag|ask him personally]] and he will [[Lie|answer with honesty]].

==See also==
*[[JenkinsJinkies]]
*[[List of Christian's edits to the CWCki]]
*[[CWCipedia]]

[[Category:CWCki]]
[[Category:Trolling]]
[[Category:Websites]]

Heterochromia

2012-04-20T14:38:44Z

Old meme: minor edits

<center>[[Image:Eyes.jpg|850px|EYE SEE YOU]]</center>

{{quote|Chris's eyes are very, VERY slightly different in color. It's nothing you would be able to notice unless he fucking points it out to you...or you just happen to notice small details like that.|[[Emily]]}}

'''[[Wikipedia:Heterochromia|Heterochromia]]''' is a medical condition where the [[Wikipedia:Iris (anatomy)|irises]] are differently colored. There are two kinds: complete and partial. Partial heterochromia is where part of the iris is differently colored from the rest. Chris has complete heterochromia, where one eye is a different color from the other.

Chris claims that although his eyes were originally blue in [[high school]]<ref>[[Blanca Emails, August 2008]]</ref> he contracted pink eye ([[Wikipedia:Conjunctivitis|conjunctivitis]]) in his right eye and the prescribed [[Wikipedia:Eye drop|eye drops]] turned it green. His explanation is almost certainly incorrect - while some medications can cause heterochromia as a side effect, the simple antibiotic or antihistamine eye drops prescribed for conjunctivitis cannot.

It's more likely that the condition is hereditary. In school pictures taken while Chris was very young, close examination reveals that his eyes are different colors. Nevertheless, the pink eye story is one of his favorites when introducing himself to girls.

It is also a prominent, often exaggerated feature of his [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|comic self]]. In reality, Chris's condition isn't particularly noticeable except upon close examination, and the less kind amongst us might presume that he only plays it up for want of any other endearing characteristics. According to eye witnesses (like the above quoted), Chris's eyes are indeed differently colored, but not to the degree Chris describes or draws.

A close examination of Chris's eyes seems to indicate that Chris's "green" eye is actually more of a hazel/greenish shade of blue rather than a distinctly green eye as Chris portrays. It should also be noted that, despite his insistence on pointing out that his eyes are different colors, Chris often mistakenly colors his right eye blue and his left eye green in his comics. Perhaps this is retardation, perhaps it is a symptom of studying himself in the mirror to memorize his appearance,<ref>[[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]] - [http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_7/Page_24 "...I had to train my brain to visually remember what I looked like..."]</ref> perhaps he doesn't pay too much attention while coloring, perhaps he just doesn't know his left from his right, or perhaps even Chris himself really doesn't notice the difference that much.

==Instances where Chris has mentioned his heterochromia==
[[Image:Eye.jpg|thumb|"My left eye is blue, and my right eye is brown-my right is green."]]

*He told [[Anna]] about it in [[The Tale Of The Crazy Pacer]].
*He brought it up to [[Blanca]] in an [[Blanca E-mails#Chris introduces himself with the pink eye anecdote|email]]
*He tells [[Emily]] during their date.
*It is mentioned again to [[Regina e-mails|Regina]] in an email to her.

==Sources==
<references/>

==See also==
*[[Honest content]]

[[Category:Physical characteristics]]

Talk:Creepy stare

2012-04-20T14:25:27Z

Old meme: proposing rename

At the 3d picture: check Sonic looking over his shoulder! ^^ [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 22:30, 18 March 2009 (CET)

:I assume it was his plea for help to the public as he was going to have a "Deliverance"-esque ass raping as soon as the video had finished.--[[User:UncleBastard|UncleBastard]] 23:44, 18 March 2009 (CET)

Someone sould make a "Stares into your soul" YTMND out of one or more of the pictures.--[[User:Blachman|Blachman]] 18:34, 23 March 2009 (CET)

That or a "Chris Chan's expression never changed" YTMND. --[[User:UncleBastard|UncleBastard]] 18:57, 23 March 2009 (CET)
:Well whattaknow. [http://cwcstare.ytmnd.com/ I just made one]!--[[User:Blachman|Blachman]] 20:21, 26 March 2009 (CET)
: [http://cwcgiygas.ytmnd.com/ Same here ] - [[User:Needlepants|Needlepants]] 20:35, 15 November 2009 (CET)
:* Insta-1-voted! Rock on! (I find it hilarious that YTMND has 'standards' ... srsly) - [[User:Needlepants|Needlepants]] 20:40, 15 November 2009 (CET)

Should someone mentions how he thinks this is sensual?--[[User:Sonichuistehcool|Sonichuistehcool]] 02:15, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

== Rename? ==
The naming and capitalisation seems really weird on this page. I don't know whose idea it was to name it as "The Creepy Stare", but it seems to me that just "Creepy stare" is simpler and less annoying. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:25, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

Creepy stare

2012-04-20T14:23:08Z

Old meme: I don't believe the vacant stares of comic characters are appropriate when the page is about a real life mannerism of Chris's.

[[Image:139-CWCsDarkGlare.jpg|thumb|He thinks it's cool]]

{{Quote|Q: What would you say is the most romantic thing you have ever done with or to a woman?|Anonymous, [[Common Questions]].}}

{{Quote|[[Virgin with rage|Sensual, emotionally-linked eye-contact.]]|[[Chris]], in answer to the above.}}

The verdict is in. You gonna get [[rape]]d.

[[Chris]] seems to employ multiple '''stares''', all trying to project a different emotion and all nearly identical to each other, a la Derek Zoolander. He has used them to display anger, frustration, romantic interest, or sometimes an intentional lack of emotion, almost like an autistic variant of a poker face. Like many of Chris's strange [[mannerisms]], this is likely linked to his [[autism]]; autistics tend to have difficulty understanding and expressing the kind of non-verbal social cues that are second nature to most people.

Chris may think that his stare is a sexy and seductive gaze or an intimidating glare that will force his adversaries into submission, but to ordinary observers, it invariably comes across as creepy or out-of-place.

==Gallery==
<center><gallery>
Image:Creepy-Stare3.jpg|Stare variant #35.
Image:Creepy-Stare5.jpg|This is what you see when you die.
Image:Creepy-Stare1.jpg|He can see into your soul.
Image:0694-AnnaBD8.JPG|You just know he's planning [[Rape|something]] based on that expression.
Image:0695-AnnaBD9.JPG|This photo almost makes you feel sorry for [[Anna McLerran|that bitch]]...
Image:0043-YoungChristopher2.jpg|Learning at an [[1980s|early age]].
File:0044-YoungChristopher1.jpg|They laughed at my autism; I laughed at their funerals.
File:ModNation Racers 110.JPG|He even incorporates it into [[video games]].
Image:0777-CWConbed.JPG|Possibly the most frightening [[Nudes|clothed]] image of Chris.
Image:Whatthefuckiswithhisrighteye.jpg|Srsly, what the fuck is with his right eye?
Image:Csof111.JPG|The emotion he's trying to convey here is "[[Chris and anger|anger]]"
Image:295.jpg|Are those a pair of bongos?
Image:Chris2.jpg|For some strange reason or another, Chris thinks his gaze is sensual.
Image:Cwc_csof.JPG|Dude...I can feel the cosmos...
Image:1240785819569.jpg|BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU.
Image:Creepychris.jpg|CHIIIIIIINNNAAAAAAA...
File:CWCstare1.png|[[Sonichu 10|OBJECTION!]]
File:Creepy-Stare6.jpg|In the dark...
File:0476-CWC18th7.jpg|Chris as he's about to molest his birthday presents.
File:Strangle that Frieza.JPG|An angry man.
File:Myspace.jpg|The stare has the power to shine in even the [[Chris's room|darkest caves]].
File:CreepyBobAndChris.JPG|[[Bob]] can do it too!
File:0028-ChristopherWMom1.jpg| ...So can [[Barb]]!
File:Creepy boat.jpg|[[I'LL BREAK YOU DEAD]] (after [[Lars' Ship has Sunk.MOV|sinking your boat]]).
File:AHikeStare.jpg|He can do it while driving, too!
File:Chris_in_his_Escort_creepy_smile.jpg|Somehow the smile makes it worse.
File:100 2299.JPG|Why, Chris? Why?
File:Rapey Stare.jpg|Ummm...
File:Miss duh dadline.jpg|if you ever miss duh dadline , i'll know...because i'm always watching you.
</gallery></center>

==See also==
*[[Pedo-Glasses]]
*[[Claw of Fail]]

==External links==

*[http://cwcstare.ytmnd.com/ Chris-chan stares into your soul.]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB0KPHqjwZw Tribute to the creepy stare.]

{{Mannerisms}}
{{DEFAULTSORT:Creepy stare}}
[[Category:Mannerisms]]

Bagget

2012-04-20T14:01:48Z

Old meme: cleaning up a bit

[[Image:Bagget.jpg||thumb|Bagget with [[niggos|blackup]]]]
Police officer '''Marcus Baggett''' works for the Albemarle County Police Department, and is the "[[Jerkop]] of all Jerkops" who arrested Chris at the [[Get-Tar Region|Target]]. Not much is known about his personal life, but we do know he was commended by the local [[Wikipedia:Virginia House of Delegates|House of Delegates]] for his selfless commitment to public safety after stepping down from his squad car to rescue two people from a smoking restaurant, shortly before it erupted into flames, on 9 March [[2002]].<ref>http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?031+ful+HJ620</ref> He later participated in the shooting of Colby Eppard on 1 [[January 2010]] after the 18-year-old stole a police car and shot at several officers. Baggett fired a [[Wikipedia:Spike strip|stinger]] to burst Eppard's tires, and subsequently fatally shot Eppard alongside several other officers.<ref>http://www.readthehook.com/stories/2010/02/25/COVER-eppard-authorites-duck-parents-d.aspx</ref>

Naturally, despite his heroism, Chris goes to great lengths to demonize him, proving once and for all that [[Chris and his Ego|no matter the great deeds someone has done, if they inconvenience Chris in any way they're evil]]. When Chris was being arrested, he found the situation humorous when he learned the jerkop's name, thinking how "Baggett" sounds a lot like "[[Homos|faggot]]". [[autism|Witty]].

==In real life==

From [[CWC's Diary#July|CWC's Diary]]:

{{quotebox|"July 20, 2005: … I was at the new [[Get-Tar Region|Target store]], just hanging around, not bothering anyone. And, from out of the blue, these two [[Manajerks]] asked me to leave, because they said that I was loitering; I was [[Virgin with rage|NOT]]! I was there [[Love Quest|hoping to find an 18-23-year old, Boyfriend-Free girl]], like I usually do. Then, from out of the blue, after I told them off, they came back with two [[Jerkops]]! I was slightly intimidated, but mostly annoyed and [[I'LL BREAK YOU DEAD|ready to strike back on them]]. They asked me to leave, and never return. I did not want to leave. I would have left peacefully, in fact, I was ready to go, but I had a prepared speech to say to them stupid Jerkops. And, during the middle of my speech, they chased me, pulled my [[Dirty Crapped Briefs|pants]], and [[Kick the autistic|pinned me to the floor]]. Five Jerkops dog-piled on me as I struggled to get free. A thousand pounds of [[Pickles|sausages]] on my [[Obesity|180-pound]] body was seriously a cut-off for my Breathing Flow. They handcuffed my wrists and legs, and they hog-tied me! Not only did I felt humiliated from being the victim, but I was [[Fangs|angry]] at them! Not only for handcuffing me, but once again thwarting my efforts in trying to find a Boyfriend-Free Girl. They drove me to the county jail, but fortunately, they did not keep me there; I was released to my [[Bob Chandler|family]]. But now I have to go to [[Chris and the Law|court]] on July 29 at 9:00 AM at the Albemarle County Courthouse, close to the Downtown Mall. So now, I feel very miserable, sad, lonely and rejected. And, while I had the handcuffs on me, both my hands, mostly my right, were seriously cut off from blood flow, and they both felt numb. It was terrible. But my [[Barbara Chandler|mother]] and I are going to get back at them in court, in fact, I learned that the Jerkop who arrested me was called '''Bagget''' (that was the only thing about the situation that was hilarious; replace the “B” with an “F,” and you can see how [[Random-access humor|funny]] it was).}}

You'd think that Chris would recall that he had previously said that all cops were good so long as they wore blue and black.<ref>[[Chris E-mails 2007#February]]</ref> However, because Baggett, a real police officer, arrested Chris (for completely legitimate reasons), he is suddenly not a [[TRUE and HONEST]] police officer. So, according to Chris, cops are only okay if they wear blue and black and don't try to arrest him for breaking the law.

==In the comic==
Bagget appeared in [[Sub-Episode 7]] in a dramatization of Chris's arrest at [[Target]]. He is portrayed as the "Jerkop Daitenzen", a sort of strange evil [[Power Rangers|Power Ranger]], and a reference to ''[[Excel Saga]]''. He wears a brown uniform like the other [[Jerkops]] and at times wears a helmet in the same color. He commands a great number of Jerkops, as well as the [[Crackder]] that takes Chris down. [[Mary Lee Walsh]] seems to hold him in high regard, and at one point refers to him as "the strongest most evil villian [sic] ever,"<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_4/Page_66</ref><ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_4/Page_67</ref> apparently making him more evil than [[Count Graduon]].

He is called into action after Chris assaults [[Turdijerk]] and [[Trebor Capman]], backed up by the [[Jerkhief]] and his his men. He fights with a sword, and calls in Crackder to defeat Chris when he fails to fell the manchild himself, which it successfully does so. He also briefly lapses into ye olde [[English]] for some reason.<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_4/Page_77</ref> After a brief round of torture, he then throws Chris into Crackder and they fly off to [[PVCC]], where he presents a hog-tied Chris to Mary Lee Walsh on a giant plate. Despite Chris's humiliating defeat at his hands, he never gets any kind of revenge on Bagget, and he disappears from the comic after handing Chris over.

He would later return in [[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu #7'']], making a brief cameo at Mary Lee Walsh's villain meet-up. This was his last appearance in the comic, and his ultimate fate following the destruction of PVCC at the end of [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu #10'']] is unknown.

In later [[Retroactive continuity in Sonichu|retcons]], Chris changed his name to "'''Dagget'''".

==Sources==
<references/>

==See also==
{{Fan art}}
*[[Jerkops]]
*[[Get-Tar Region]]
*[[PVCCitizens]]
*[[Chris and the Law]]

{{Sonichu}}
[[Category:Real people who have appeared in Sonichu comics]]
[[Category:Villains]]

User talk:Champthom

2012-04-20T13:09:47Z

Old meme: requesting ban powers plz

Talk to me.

Be sure to check out the archives as well:

'''Archive:''' [[User:Champthom/Archive 1|1]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 2|2]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 3|3]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 4|4]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 5|5]]

== Account inactive on the CWCki Forum ==

Hey Champ, I'm so sorry if this is the wrong place for this kind of post but I'm not really too sure where else to go to, sorry buddy. But yeah, I tried to sign onto my Jackal account on the CWCki forums and was told it was inactive and to contact an administrator... I'm just wondering did I receive a ban or something? Apologies if I did like, I'm not even asking to be re-instated or anything, I'm just curious what I've done! Thanks in advance Champthom --[[User:Jackal|Jackal]] 05:23, 4 March 2012 (PST)

==Champ tomas==

okay like i'll have all the subtitles backed up on my hd so far, did you have i have like 8gb of cwc shit on my computer? yeah i know right. so anywayyyy i have decided to credit ppl on both the caption titles (for example, "iamstraight by champthom") and the video descriptions for double the fun!!also if i can't upload the subtitles i can ask tito to. i should be fine though. [[User:Abejita Cortez|Abejita Cortez]] 19:09, 17 February 2011 (PST)

== PSN Tracker ==

I'm not sure if you're the right person to ask, but I recently got Chris to add me on the PSN.
How would I contribute to the PSN tracker? [[User:Dillon627|Dillon627]] 09:19, 22 February 2011 (PST)
*edit the psn tracker? i think anyone can edit it bro -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 10:42, 22 February 2011 (PST)
* http://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Template:PSNTracker&action=edit here you go -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 10:43, 22 February 2011 (PST)
Thanks. I'll try to start updating it when I can. [[User:Dillon627|Dillon627]] 12:12, 22 February 2011 (PST)

== I apologize ==

I apologize for doing something wrong while transcribing Kacey Call 8. I want you to know that I am currently still working on the transcript, but as you can imagine, it is not walk in the park... It's a little over 35 minutes long and I'm sure you know how hard it is to transcribe audio. I also want you to know that I will try to do better in the future. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 16:34, 4 March 2011 (PST)
*I do appreciate the effort, I do ask though you add [[:Template:Transcription|this template]] to pages that aren't completely transcribed. That way, people can pick up the slack so it's not all on you. I do appreciate your work and I hope you continue transcribing. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:51, 4 March 2011 (PST)
::Thanks for deleting the thinger-ma-bobber. Now that I look back at the edits, that should've been obvious..but I fail at computer stuff as it is so I'll blame it on that. :P --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 18:51, 6 March 2011 (PST)

== Re:Comic Categories ==

Sounds like a good idea.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 18:02, 4 March 2011 (PST)

== Always here ==

Wallflower policy here: http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Talk:The_Wallflower#Stating_CWCki_Policy

I have never left, friend. I merely got a new job that causes me to work long hours. Once my time becomes free-er and my heart level recovers from Mumble translations, I shall return full-time. I still check here once a day or more.

Want a pizza roll? Message me if you want a pizza roll. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 19:06, 7 March 2011 (PST)

:Edit: I'll post it in the right place later tonight. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 19:17, 7 March 2011 (PST)
:*Just did it dude, thanks for the help. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:17, 7 March 2011 (PST)

==Anything I can do at the moment?==

I've watched the CWCki for a while now and now that I've joined, I'd like to know if there is anything specific I can help with. Thanks. --[[user:Ctahu|Ctahu]] [[User_talk:Ctahu|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Ctahu|c)]] 17:50, 19 April 2011 (EST)

==Can do==
Sorry I took so long to reply, it was 3AM here when you left the message and I just got it. I'll keep IRC open for whenever you're available. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 07:10, 23 April 2011 (PDT)

== Love ==

Champ,

Just when everyone- EVERYONE- thought Chris had shriveled up, dried out like a prune and flat out fucking died- you [[Tomgirl_Pictures|delivered]]. Technically it was Freecell who uploaded them and obviously some [[troll|beautiful, honest woman]] persuaded him to do this, but in my reality Champthom knows all, sees all... so yeah.

Holy shit. Honestly, if we get nothing else for 2011...

... I want you bad.

--[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 08:17, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

== Possible new article ==

I noticed after I signed up a couple weeks ago that the articles on the retconned Asperchu characters were an absolute clusterfuck, so I've been experimenting in my [[User:Old meme/Sandbox|sandbox]] for a while now on merging the [[Chaotic Combo (Asperchu)]], [[Basement Rosechus]] and [[Mitch Sonichu]] pages. I added some new images and had Freecell look at it and make his own additions, and he thinks it's ready for the main namespace. Obviously though, that will involve moving pages and fixing broken redirects, and being the boss around here you get the final say. When I was working on this, the title I had in mind was "Asperchu parodies", but that's just my suggestion. Have a look at it and tell me what you think. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:19, 17 May 2011 (PDT)
*I've seen it, it's pretty good, but not sure about the name, as they're "parodies" in the same way Sonichu is a "parody" (which is, not really). Come up with a better name and we might be able to do something. Perhaps if you post on the portal [[CWCki:General|here]] you could get some feedback. Nice work though, keep it up.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:25, 17 May 2011 (PDT)
*Thanks. I'll do that now. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:32, 20 May 2011 (PDT)
*Champthom ma boi, that message has been on the community portal for four days and I don't think anyone has noticed it. Do you want to come up with an article name yourself? Only I want to get this page up so I can start using my sandbox for other purposes. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:16, 24 May 2011 (PDT)
*Thanks again. Tell me when you have a title for the page. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:15, 27 May 2011 (PDT)

Yo Champ! It's been nearly a month now. Have you got a title for me yet? I spent quite a while on that article and I want to see it up soon. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 09:33, 14 June 2011 (PDT)
*Holy crap, thanks for reminding me dude. Alec's suggestion is kinda lame, too wordy - "Alternate interpretations of Sonichu characters" (I think he might have misunderstood me), I think "Asperchu parodies" might work. Man, I am awful at procrastination, lol. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:05, 14 June 2011 (PDT)
*It's up now, and looking good. Thanks for sorting everything out Champ. Now to get to work on another merged page about Chris's shitty transformers. This will take a while. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:07, 17 June 2011 (PDT)
*Oh, and while I'm here, a couple of weeks ago I decided to rewrite the [[Sonichu (game)]] page. I only just realised after looking back on it that I subconsciously created another merged page while doing so. I condensed [[Pokémon: Lightning Version]], [[Sonichu Adventure]] and [[Sonichu Advance]] into that one page. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing, but take a look at it and fix it as you see fit. I didn't even know until now that I did that. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:17, 17 June 2011 (PDT)

==RE:==
Don't worry about it. I'm just sorry I wasn't online to see it sooner. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 08:31, 26 May 2011 (PDT)

Glad I was able to help since I missed the show. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:12, 26 May 2011 (PDT)

== I suck donkey balls ==
I was trying to upload a new version of [[:File:Prowl prower.jpg|this file]] and make it into [[:File:File-Prowl prower.jpg|this file]] so I could use it in an article. Somewhere down the line, I fucked up. The first one now displays the old image in file mode and the new image as a thumb on article pages, while the new one has a fucked up name that I think was automatically assigned when I tried to upload a new version of the other one. Please fix this for me? kthnx. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 14:50, 21 June 2011 (PDT)

== Check out this shit ==
I feel it's getting to the point where I'm just spamming with the ammount of times I keep asking you to look at a new article in my sandbox. Regardless, you said you wanted me to have a look at maybe rewriting the templates for the sagas and the like. I plan on doing so, along with a few other templates while I'm at it, but I am on my third sandbox already and I think making a fourth would be pushing it at this point. Even if I wasn't though, I think now would be a good time to show them to you because I am just about done. I'm awaiting Freecell's revisions for some of them, but he's taking a while and I'm sure whatever problems he would find, you would also. Anyway, here's [[User:Old meme/Sandbox|the first]]. It's a reworking of the [[Samurai Pizza Bots]] page and it merges [[Prower]] and [[Armoraxe]] into it as well, so we have a page on the entire team instead of a few pages on some of them. The [[User:Old meme/Sandbox 2|second one]] is a rewrite of the [[Decepti-Clone]] article, which has a bad name anyway because Decepti-Clone is the name for evil robots in general, but the page is about S.A.V.s. In my revision, I merged the original page with [[Jerkop Punislav]] and [[Crackder]] so it's actually about Decepti-Clones in general rather than just one type. I would suggest the name of the actual title for this page be [[Decepti-Clones]] plural. Just sayin'. [[User:Old meme/Sandbox 3|Sandbox 3]] is just a rewrite of [[Sarah Hammer]], but I sandboxed it instead of just rewriting the article as normal because I also merged [[Queen of the Cherokian Clan]] into it, because she is literally a one panel character with no more importance at all. Anyway, I'm submitting all of these for approval, and I promise you that after this and the [[Sonichu (game)]] mergings are over, I'll stop merging so much shit and creating more work for you for a while. I'll take a break and work on those templates instead. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:21, 24 June 2011 (PDT)
*Dude, I have bad news for you - I am the world's worst procrastinator. I put off EVERYTHING until the last minute, so if I don't reply to your message right away, that's probably because I'm on the Internet dicking around. I also work at night and sleep during the day most of the week, so on those days I maybe get to check the CWCki for 10, 15 minutes and that's mostly to see if anyone has been vandalizing. Anyways, your articles - your first one, on the Samurai Pizza Bots is pretty alright. My only complaint is the tone, it's rather informal. Now mind you, I don't mind that tone sometimes and I think some articles get away with it but I know that some people prefer a more formal tone and I believe their argument has merit. I have the next few days off, I'll see what I can do to critque your article and give you some ways to improve it. Your Decepti-Clones article seems better than the one we have, but I'll give it another look, it has a lot of details from the comic that I need to refresh to see the context (the later comics I mostly skimmed because Chris stopped giving a shit at that point). I really need to wait on seeing the Sarah Hammer article, that is yours versus the one we have as I don't want to get the two confused. Like I said, I can critque your articles for you. You don't have to work on those templates or the saga stuff if you don't want to, I usually say that when people ask "Why don't we have x?" I say "Because you haven't made it yet!" You're obviously a very dedicated wiki editor which I like and I expect great things from you, just keep up the good work and bear with me.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:42, 24 June 2011 (PDT)
**I appreciate it Champ. I'm only on here a few days a week anyway, I figure while I am I may as well fix things up. No need to rush anything here, I can wait. There are plenty of other articles I could be working on that don't require the sandbox. Plus Freecell still needs to make his edits before this is moved to the main namespace. I'll take the formality thing into consideration and see if I can make the article a bit more serious when I do the spellchecking. And honestly, I do want to give the templates an overhaul. Some of them are laughably outdated compared to some of the articles using them. I think Dethchemist was actually working on some templates too, but I don't know if he still is or not. Either way, leave me a message on my talk page when you get around to reading the stuff, and I'll make the appropriate corrections. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 09:22, 24 June 2011 (PDT)
**Made some updates. Tell me what you think. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:56, 25 June 2011 (PDT)

==k==
Trying to do, but whenever I make an account it refuses the username/password combination and says I have no method of recovering it. I'll let it sit for a while and try again. Alternatively, I'll be in IRC if that's easier for you. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 09:16, 14 July 2011 (PDT)

== Champthom my homie ==
Wha's cracking y'all? I thought I'd drop by and remind you like always to look over my sandbox pages, already linked to above, because you said you would but then you did something else and forgot them. Not sayin' I blame y'all, but I'm here to remind you anyway, because you need reminding. They're merged pages for the transformers articles and one on Sarah Hammer fyi. Alright, that's it for now. I got things to do an' shit. Talk later, kay? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 01:29, 15 July 2011 (PDT)

You know, if you don't have the time or don't want to do it, I could always add the new pages and create the redirects myself? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 03:53, 26 July 2011 (PDT)
*[[THAT IS MY HOUSE|I'M WORKIN' ON IT!]]. Seriously, I'll give it a look tonight or tomorrow.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:08, 26 July 2011 (PDT)
**Well, you said you would, so I can only assume you did. Was the page okay? Just give me a yes or no answer, and if it's a yes, I promise I'll do all the work and sort it out myself. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:49, 29 July 2011 (PDT)
:::*Here's what I say - just make the changes, if people don't like it they can change it back. RPOBLEM OSLVED.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:51, 29 July 2011 (PDT)
::::*KAY MAN. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:52, 29 July 2011 (PDT)

==New members==
I figured I'd let you know that a lot of people from /cwc/ have it in their head that the best course of action right now is to raid the CWCki in the name of the tomgirls. We're working on a similar plan right now but it needs to be taken one step at a time, not jumped into. So I'd keep an eye on any new members, just in case. It's possible they'll do something stupid. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 12:28, 22 July 2011 (PDT)
*Well main page templates have all been protected for the next week, that's usually what they target first. It's possible that new people are joining because there's new content, but I have considered the possibility of the attack, hence the protection. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:17, 22 July 2011 (PDT)

==Templates==
<nowiki>Yo. I've just been using {{subst:welcome}} instead of {{welcome}}. I'll switch to {{welcome}} if you want.</nowiki> --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 22:19, 22 July 2011 (PDT)

==Page Format==
I've done a couple page cleanups over the last few days, and I got to thinking about the common nit-picks I have. There's good info in the Help pages on how to format dates, when to pipe, etc., but there's no real place to go to see a model 'page layout.' I started a [[User:Dude/Guide_to_Style|formatting guide]] (improperly labeled 'style' guide, at the moment) as a subpage of my user page. Take a look, and feel free to use it as the nucleus for a new help page. --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 23:25, 24 July 2011 (PDT)
*Not bad, it's definitely something we could use. I would suggest looking up how Wikipedia does things, as that tends to be the standard for wikis (for instance, standard for pics are right aligned when possible). Pretty much I'd recommend fleshing it out with stuff from Wikipedia's article layout guide (remember, it's Creative Commons so you can pretty much copy paste it, ideally source it as well) and obviously adapt it to the CWCki's needs.

:To be honest, I came up with the "Sauces" thing since that's how most people who frequent this site talk - they'll say "sauce plz" HOWEVER if you and other people think it should be "References", I'm cool with that.

:Keep up the good work man.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:50, 25 July 2011 (PDT)

::HA! I thought if anybody would hate the ''sauces'' it would be you, man ;-) It doesn't really matter to me, though I prefer Refs. --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 18:51, 25 July 2011 (PDT)

==Just got your message==
I've been unwell for the past few days and still am. I'll leave IRC open if you're still wanting to talk, but I'm mostly going to be away from my computer so I may not be able to get back to you for a few hours. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 13:48, 27 July 2011 (PDT)

==I'm sorry to neg you..==
But can you please edit [[Template:Da Update|Da Update]] to include Liquid closing his YouTube account? I don't have permission to edit that template and I think this item is newsworthy, plus it might lead to Chris proclaiming victory on YouTube or something like that after seeing that his old foe's YouTube account is gone. -- [[User:NegaCWC]]
*I agree that it's newsworthy, though it's unlikely Chris gives enough of a fuck anymore. Liquid got what he wanted, Chris lost and moved on. It sounds like you're trying to use the CWCki to troll Chris though. There's a stigma against that, non? [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 22:45, 27 July 2011 (PDT)
**Yeah I know that the CWCki shouldn't be used as a trolling tool, I'm asking for it to be put on Da Update because I think it needs to be there regardless of Chris's possible reacion, even if we found out that Chris is dead by now I think it should be there. Sorry that I didn't sign my previous edit BTW. --[[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 00:25, 28 July 2011 (PDT)
::*I'm sorry but Da update is strictly for Chris related updates. Unless Chris manages to react to the account closing, it definitely has no place in da update. Besides, it leads to a slippery slope - one could argue then that we include any update any past troll of Chris does on their YouTube accounts and that would be silly. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:00, 28 July 2011 (PDT)
:::*I don't really have an opinion either way, but I don't know if it would necessarily lead to stalking all Chris related youtube accounts. Liquid is a bit more important than other troll youtube accounts because that saga happened primarily via youtube. It might be a milestone we'd want to make note of. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 06:03, 28 July 2011 (PDT)
::::*But, was there an update when the Asperpedia was shut down? If so, then editing Da Update to include the closing of Liquid's account wouldn't be totally unprecedented. If not, then I agree, it's a slippery slope. [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 06:50, 28 July 2011 (PDT)
:::::*Remember though people, da update is essentially about Chris. People check it out to see what Chris is up to. Da update really shouldn't be what other trolls are up to, as people who are curious about the trolls themselves usually manage to find out about them themselves. I have no problem with this information being incorporated into the [[Liquid Chris]] page if it hasn't already, as obviously it's relevant. However, it's not da update worthy because it's not about Chris. While it won't necessarily lead to stalking other trolls, it will set a precedent for it. People will say "Oh, [[Vivian]] has started a side project, let's include that in the update" or "[[Jack Thaddeus]] posted something on some Internet forum, let's include that in da update." I'm careful when it comes to establishing precedents, which is why including Liquid's account closing would set a bad one.
::::::As I see it, people who want this in da update 1) want to troll Chris for it or 2) feel that we need to update da update because it's been too long. As many people will back me up on this, the CWCki isn't a way to troll Chris, that's to protect our asses if shit ever goes down. Even if we are to update it to troll Chris, I very, very, VERY much doubt he would care and I have sufficient knowledge of Chris to know this. Chris will probably have no clue who "Liquid Chris" is, and even if he realizes it's the "impostor" he'll just remind himself how he won the [[Singstar Challenge]] (at least, HE believes he did) and is therefore the TRUE and HONEST Christian Chandler, or at least the Christian Weston Chandler who was born Christopher. Second point, I don't think there's anything wrong with not updating da update. If nothing happens with Chris, so be it. Da update reflects what da update is and if there is no update, well, [[Chris Calls Clyde Out|tough cookies]]. Da update should not be cheapen by updating it for the sake of updating it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:21, 28 July 2011 (PDT)

==WHAT?!==
YOU MEAN YOU'VE [[Help:So, you've been banned...|BEEN ABLE TO BAN PEOPLE FOR GENERAL FAGGOTRY THIS WHOLE TIME]] AND YOU NEVER ONCE THOUGHT TO GET RID OF FAGGOTS LIKE ICONOCLAST?!

I've got to say Champ, I'm more than a little disapointed by this. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:52, 28 July 2011 (PDT)
*I don't ban people unless they've actually done something against the CWCki (i.e. vandalized it) or their presence is so disruptive to the CWCki that people are spending more resources trolling said person than editing the CWCki (like with 16BitAlex). "General faggotry" is more of an exception clause, because there's usually exceptions to the rules. I try to be fair and just with everyone when it comes to bannings, and I won't ban anyone who edits in good faith.
:Just chillax man.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:58, 28 July 2011 (PDT)
::But still, you missed so many great opportunities with this! The people we could have gotten rid of! The unnecessary drama we could have avoided! Alex was totally acceptable to ban! Yet you didn't do that until he requested it himself! You need to start being harsher with your punishments. Keep that pimp hand strong. Or at least give me a promotion so I can be harsh for you. I promise I won't go crazy and ban all the furfags. Or Clyde. Unless you want me to. Which you should seriously consider by the way. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:09, 28 July 2011 (PDT)

==T&T Page==

Hey, the protection on the T&T page is up. Could you revert the edits to the 22nd and lock it again? Just in case, it's best to keep the article static until this is all over. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 19:17, 29 July 2011 (PDT)

==Yo==
Hey, I saw you were on earlier and protected a page. If you're still online, jump on IRC real fast. Otherwise, I'll look for you another time. --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 21:02, 29 July 2011 (PDT)

==Chibbity Champthom==
I sent you a PM on PVCC but you're here more so hit me up homedog. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 07:28, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

==RE: Ivy's age==
I'm a little confused about Ivy's date of birth. Is 1992 the year in which the actual culprit behind Ivy was born or is it Ivy's year of birth according to what Chris was told? If it's only the former than I'm not sure it should be listed as the date of birth in her article. After all if I remember correctly you're the one who said that articles on trollsonas should always describe the events as Chris perceives them rather than explain what really happened (who was really behind every trollsona and so on). - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 11:13, 3 September 2011 (PDT)
*It's the birthday Ivy told me when I asked her when her birthday is. Take that as you will.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:02, 4 September 2011 (PDT)

== Standardising Template:PublicSauce ==

Champthom, can you rename [[Template:PublicSauce]] to "Template:PublicSource"? Now that the [[Template:Cite]] template has been changed to display [''citation needed''] instead of [''sauce needed''], shouldn't [''public sauce needed''] likewise be changed to read [''public source needed'']?

I'm going to go ahead and change the template to do just that, but I cannot rename the template. By renaming the template, it will further standardise naming conventions in the CWCki as well as be consistent with the template's output. Renaming shouldn't cause any problems regarding coding in other pages since no pages currently use this template. – [[User:BrianBash|BrianBash]] ([[User_talk:BrianBash|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/BrianBash|cont]]) 16:30, 3 September 2011 (PDT)
: I moved it, which should fix this. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:17, 3 September 2011 (PDT)

== Sonichu Animated ==
Have you tried protecting the variations of using a colon and semicolon and different possible capitalizations of all the different words? And don't forget abbreviations like Sonichu TAS and STAS. I would also like to remind you that it can just be shortened to Sonichu Animated or some variation thereof. You have a lot of work to do bro. Maybe you should put the Jerkops to work on this. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:12, 6 September 2011 (PDT)
*When I said comma, I did mean colon. So far, I've protected "Sonichu: The Animated Series" and "Sonichu:The Animated Series" in addition to "Sonichu The Animated Series." It's not a huge ordeal, if it comes up again I'll delete it, I just find it annoying that people see that they can't create the page with the right spelling, so they think they're clever by taking out the colon or something like that. Sonichu TAS is the only page that keeps getting resurrected time and again. But yeah, I'm not going to make a huge deal out of it, if it comes up I'll deal with it then than try and figure out every permutation someone could make for the page. I mean, could you totally see me like, making a zillion protections and someone figuring out one I didn't cover? That'd be embarrassing. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:32, 6 September 2011 (PDT)
::The ''recent changes'' page hasn't been moving *that* quickly; while it's retarded that it keeps being added, I think the deletion turn-around has been quick enough. And honestly, I think it's just retards that need to lurk moar, as opposed to any real effort at being a douche. --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 22:33, 6 September 2011 (PDT)
::EDIT: OK, I just saw the last one, and that was pretty douchey. --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 22:38, 6 September 2011 (PDT)

== Thanks ==

Thanks =) As a side note, can you give [[User:WelcomeBot]] bot status - I am not a good enough admin to do it myself according to [[Special:UserRights]] =( --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:46, 21 September 2011 (PDT)
:Oh yeah and I got a little bored and [[User:Anonymax/Style|drafted some style guidelines]]. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 22:30, 21 September 2011 (PDT)

== Nag nag nag nag ==

Make me an admin so I can lord over these spergs with an iron fist. --[[User:Dinglebear|Dinglebear]] 12:40, 22 September 2011 (PDT)

== Image naming ==

As of MediaWiki version 1.14 or something, you can now "rename" files by using the move feature on File: pages. Just a timesaving pro-tip for the future - though an improper name may not be the sole reason for having to delete a file, if it is - then you don't need to delete/reupload anymore. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:48, 27 September 2011 (PDT)
*Well fuck me in the ass and call me your sister, you're right. I was expecting it to be named something like "Rename" but apparently not. Yeah, totally saves time, this is totally why I made you an admin.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:15, 27 September 2011 (PDT)

== Bit of help... ==

Can you delete my account? Thank you. [[Kurtwodka|Kurtwodka]] 22:53, 04 October 2011 (PDT)

== Come back you durp ==

I had some BUSINESS to DISCUSS with you before you RUDELY left upon request. --[[User:Thorg|Thorg]] 23:54, 4 October 2011 (PDT)
*Also make me a Jerkop. --[[User:Thorg|Thorg]] 00:04, 5 October 2011 (PDT)
**No wait make me an admin. --[[User:Thorg|Thorg]] 00:08, 5 October 2011 (PDT)
::*No.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:20, 5 October 2011 (PDT)

== Re: WelcomeBot ==

WelcomeBot is already clever in many ways. Firstly it only welcomes users who have made at least one edit since registering their account. This is for various reasons, but one is because bombarding a new user with a welcome message within 60 minutes of them making their account isn't terribly cool.

WelcomeBot already ignores users who are blocked - so vandals usually get detected and banned pretty quickly around here and by the time WelcomeBot does another sweep, it's more than likely any vandals will have been banned.

The {{tl|Welcome}} template already has a parameter for specifying a user other the one making the edit to the user's talk page - I've now edited WelcomeBot to place my name instead of his for the "contact me on my userpage" link. WelcomeBot still signs the message, but the bot's userpage explains who the bot is, who controls him and why.

A demo of this action can be seen on [[User talk:WBTest2]] - which originally had one edit to their own userpage and I forced WelcomeBot to re-run - and you can see the difference in talk page linking. I can add to the welcome template or WelcomeBot's signature something about why a bot is welcoming them - but the userpage should already explain this. I think I covered most of your questions... --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 06:01, 8 October 2011 (PDT)
*Very good, thanks for answering them. Sounds like this is a good thing then, keep up the good work.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:50, 8 October 2011 (PDT)

==I was right about STAS==
[[File:Totally called it.png|300px]]

--[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:20, 14 October 2011 (PDT)
*Shine on, you crazy diamond.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:50, 14 October 2011 (PDT)
:*I will! Thank you father! --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:13, 14 October 2011 (PDT)

== PVCC CONSPIRACY !11!!ONE! ==
[[File:Champthom be trollin'.jpg]]

I never knew you were such a master troll Champ. I'm proud of you. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 12:19, 4 November 2011 (PDT)

== Getting hold of me ==

I'm alive on IRC from now and for about 6 more hours - you can get my attention quickest by leaving me a message on my talk page on the CWCki - as I'll get an alert within 5 minutes. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:32, 5 November 2011 (PDT)

==The Forum==

I still seem to be able to post and edit my own posts, but I don't have admin privileges anymore. If I'm not anywhere in the list, I may just have to make another account. I think people just have to make a post to get added to the list of members, though, so I gave that a go just now. Also, I haven't yet worked out the details, but I can tell intuitively that this is some kind of secret PVCC plot. I'm on to you. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 06:00, 20 November 2011 (PST)
*Figured it, out, you're back on though your post count resetted =/. BUT you have a custom title and you're back to admin so your e-peen is of equal or greater length now. Keep up the good work on the forum, God only knows I can only do so much.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:25, 20 November 2011 (PST)
**Cool. I'll do my best to keep at it. I might have to take a break from everything for exams in 3 weeks, but if so I'll let you know. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 06:32, 20 November 2011 (PST)

== SPOILER ==

'''SPOILER''': Freecell is signing comments. See also: [[Wikipedia:WP:CUSTOMSIG|that's the joke]] --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:58, 29 November 2011 (PST)
: "that's the joke"
:: - Anonymax on being simultaneously oblivious and self-aware
—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 12:47, 29 November 2011 (PST)
::I used the incorrect term. It should be "this is the joke" but then I'd look stupid. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 13:37, 29 November 2011 (PST)
*Ah man, you got me. Well played sir, well played. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:48, 29 November 2011 (PST)

== Moving pages ==

MediaWiki now allows you to delete a page on the fly when you try to move an article to a page that already exists. It gives you a warning but then the option to delete it automatically when you proceed with the move. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 08:40, 5 December 2011 (PST)
*Sweet, thanks for letting me know, that's a lifesaver.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:41, 5 December 2011 (PST)
*Odd though. I tried moving "Chris's Wikpedia page" to "Chris's Wikipedia profile" and it said that the talk page already existed and cannot be overridden. Is that only for regular pages then? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:44, 5 December 2011 (PST)
:It probably has issues if the main article doesn't exist before the talk page does. I'll test it. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 08:49, 5 December 2011 (PST)
:OK so basically if the talk page for the destination article title already exists, it won't move the associated talk page. It doesn't want to overwrite the talk page messages - so you have to make a judgement of either deleting the talk page and re-creating afresh, or doing a manual merge of the talk pages (preferable). --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 16:43, 5 December 2011 (PST)

== Freecell sent me ==

could you please unban my slimz account (you can leave fatz ban) on the forum. Freecell told me that i should talk to you.. Im not sure exactly what the ban was for specifically but i would be glad to rectify the situation. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 06:53, 19 December 2011 (PST)

: the 'over the top' persona is just that (welcome to the internet). However if you care that much about the opinions of a a bunch of people you have never met, and feel that your forum is in danger or somehow shamed by me, then im not sure what to tell you. but i think your atempt to censor the forum is trite and a bit 'over the top' in itself. I did not want to have to resort to getting around the ban thru an out of state system, thats why i asked nicely. I will continue to lurk until such time as you see fit to lift said ban. As far as sperging goes, where do you draw the line. Allowing the actions of others to dictate your response is no way to lead. In the real world thats called "prom queen"... think about it. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 08:47, 19 December 2011 (PST)

:*Even if I'm generous and assume that you thought that acting like a tough guy was a good idea (as opposed to just saying that for saving face), generally people who have a deep seated hatred for Chris are usually just as fucked up as Chris (see A-Log, PDK, etc.). I'm a nice guy, I don't like seeing people trolled. I stopped you from digging yourself deeper, you're damn glad that they didn't dox you and use life ruin tactics on you. /cwc/ is desperate for content, so they'll troll anyone they consider a "sperg" to get some kick out of it. You're asking for trouble when you make posts like you made. It encourages people to lurk the CWCki Forums just to find fresh meat to troll and it's only a matter of time people start actively trolling the forum. You're welcome to lurk,, I don't give a damn but no way am I unbanning you.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:59, 20 December 2011 (PST)

== I merged another five pages together hope you don't mind. ==
Go check recent changes for which ones. I'm not going through all those links. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 10:00, 20 December 2011 (PST)

== A message from the Great Successor ==

Herro, I have work all this week so I won't be online PM my time until about now. Leave me a message on IRC using MemoServ (as my main desktop keeps bluescreening). Canine said he doesn't know how to summon you. I left you a memo with my interwebs email address. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:25, 29 December 2011 (PST)
:Pro-tip: '''/msg memoserv send Anonymax''' '''''MSGHERE''''' --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:26, 29 December 2011 (PST)
:I got your message - good idea. I'll take a look sometime this week - after this stupid IT project for work is over. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 08:22, 1 January 2012 (PST)

== *stress sigh* ==
<s>Alright, this is a little embarrassing to admit, but I can't use either of those programs. IRC I never even heard of before I came to CWCki and it was never my thing. And AIM I tried to install and sign up for especially for this but it keeps fucking me around. Is there any kind of email address I can reach you through? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 09:48, 10 January 2012 (PST)</s>

Scratch that, I got into IRC. Unfamiliar programs just intimidate me I guess. You're not in it Champ, but I'll be waiting there for you if you're asleep or at work or whatever it is you Americans do at this time of day. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:09, 13 January 2012 (PST)

== okay then ==
nice talking. Call me when you've reached a decision. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:23, 13 January 2012 (PST)

== A little idea I have ==

One of us will go to chris's house, put a lolisa rosechu doll or sign in front of it, and film it to see how chris reacts.
It is what I would like to call: The Lolisa Experiment --An Anonymous Guru 8 February 2012 21:32 GMT
:If you want to do it, go on ahead. Also CWCki is not a forum. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 14:20, 8 February 2012 (PST)

== Possible Video of the now? ==
Nevermind, realised you can do it yourself now...
MellowColor

== I hear you bro ==
Your words of support move me. It warms my heart to know that you recognise the problem we have and are completely behind us. It gives me that much more confidence that we can salvage this place. Please feel free to make me a Jerkop so I can ban problem makers myself though. In my line of work, dealing with faggots means threatening a lot of bans, and it would be nice to have a badge to wave in their face to help move the conversation along in those cases. Come on Champy. Help a brother out? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:59, 21 February 2012 (PST)

== New FB Content==
Is this not on Da Update for any reason in particular? Should someone mention Christians little Lemonade venture on there? --[[User:MellowColor|MellowColor]] 03:15, 23 February 2012 (PST)
*Good question! I think people are afraid of putting it up there because they don't want to scare away Chris but IMHO, that shouldn't be a factor to this sort of thing. I'd take it up on the talk page first (that is, the talk page for Da Update) before doing anything, so you don't piss off anyone.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:29, 23 February 2012 (PST)

== Forum ==

Hey, there. Fairly new to the CWCki and Chris-Chan in general, and I enjoy reading the articles and the forums. Admittedly, I was inactive for a while, as I only just read the posts. But recently, I actually did start posting and had every intention to continue to do so. But, today my account "mitchsonichu" was deactivated with the reason stating I was "inactive" despite showing recent activity. It said to contact an admin and you were the only online admin I saw, so, can you please help out? --[[User:Mitchsonichu|Mitchsonichu]] 05:21, 4 March 2012 (PST)
*I'm cracking down on lurkers, for various reasons. I reactivated your account, if it doesn't work let me know. But like I said, I'm starting to crack down on lurkers for various reasons so I'd implore you to contribute.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:09, 4 March 2012 (PST)
**Nope. Still not reactivated. It still says I'm deactivated. Am I doing something wrong? --[[User:Mitchsonichu|Mitchsonichu]] 22:47, 5 March 2012 (PST)

== The Sarah May Article ==

Hi Champ, people are giving me a lot of hell for this article I edited. As I see it the old article put Chris too much in the wrong for no reason considering he was being blackmailed and interrogated. If you agree with everybody else, I'll drop it and stop editing the article, for the moment being I need to stand my ground on this thing. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 09:15, 4 March 2012 (PST)

== Clefpalete ==

Sorry, I'm not sure if this is the right forum for this, but I'd like to voice my opinion that [[User:Cleftpalete‎]] needs to go, or at least have a warning. I think he's created an incredibly negative environment over a mostly insignificant article, and he has gone as far as acting overtly hostile to other editors, as well as insulting me and other members. Normally, I wouldn't complain, but I feel like this sort of thing really gets in the way of proper editing. Just my two cents. [[User:Chaosakita|ChaosAkita]] 09:48, 4 March 2012 (PST)

== Account deactivated? ==

My account on the new cwcki forums is kitphiroth. i really want my account reactivated? i'm sorry, i didn't mean to do something bad or wrong if I did ;(

--[[User:Nijhia|Nijhia]] 16:03, 6 March 2012 (PST)

== Heeeey ==

You should replace the DYK facts to was (Example: ...that Chris was a gay icon?). Sorry if my English is bad. --[[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 09:43, 1 April 2012 (PDT)

== Account problems on the forums ==
My account on the CWCKI forums is mittlizer, I tried to sign in today after I had reset my password and it will not let me. I keep getting the "you have exceeded the maximum number of login attempts..." I put in the little code and it just keeps sending me back to the same screen, not letting me log in. Is there any way to fix this?--[[User:Lylelash|Lylelash]] 07:31, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

== Champ, I mean it now ==
When I come on here and see that people like [[User talk:Steve Landcleamer|this mouthbreather]] have been fucking with pages while being told not to and spamming pictures of furry porn that we for some reason allow on here, and yet I have the power to neither delete the image or ban the sperg, it cuts me deep. I'm on here often enough and I've already contributed a lot to the wiki. Can you throw some Jerkop powers my way so I can sort this shit out in future? We don't have nearly enough active mods and this place seems to have this kind of shit all the time. I mean this seriously Champ, I think the CWCki could benefit a lot from more Jerkops. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:09, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

User:Old meme

2012-04-13T16:52:20Z

Old meme:

{{protip|I'm now on irc as ''oldmeme''. I don't go on often, so expect not to see me there. If you have a message for me, leave it on the talk page.}}

[[User:Old meme/Sandbox|Sandbox link]]

[[User:Old meme/Sandbox 2|Sandbox 2 link]]

[[User:Old meme/Sandbox 3|Sandbox 3 link]]

[[User:Old meme/Sandbox 4|Sandbox 4 link]]

[[User:Old meme/Sandbox 5|Sandbox 5 link]]

[[User:Old meme/Critique|The Champthom-box link]] (for critique of other projects by cwcki users)

[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Main_Page CWCipedia link] (for the sake of convenience)

{{quote|CHRIS HAS LOST HIS VIRGINITY! BRING ON THE RAGE, LITTLE A-LOGS!|[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 09:52, 13 April 2012 (PDT)}}

User talk:Cleftpalete

2012-04-05T11:25:15Z

Old meme: talkin' 'bout spergs

==Hi there!==

[[Image:CWCiki_Introduction.jpg|thumb|300px|Welcome to CWCKI!]]

Welcome to [[CWCki]]! There's a lot to do around here because Chris never does anything himself. I hope you'll stay with us and make many improvements of your own!

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--[[User:WelcomeBot|WelcomeBot]] 19:04, 26 January 2012 (PST)

== Dont remove CONTENT ==

ok im fine with your removal of unfunny BS but do not remove CONTENT like fan videos. The wiki is designed to be funny sarcastic and informative, this is not ED but its not wikipedia either... [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 05:08, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*Listen, I like some fan videos too. But some are shitty. And the "Homos" page is probably one of the most relevant pages on the wiki, when there's this big ugly video on a nice page like that I can't not remove it. Also I'm not trying to make it like ED or Wikipedia, I can just read certain pages and tell that spergs wrote them and I want to erase that ugliness. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 12:37, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*I agree with Cleftpalete here, I often seen videos which are thrown in for the sake of having videos and they really don't add to the article and bog it down. I don't think it's a tremendous loss. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:27, 18 February 2012 (PST)

==Keep it up and don't listen to Slimz==
You're doing the Lord's work here Cleftpalete. I have a feeling that you and I are going to get along just fine. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:35, 27 January 2012 (PST)
* i agree with almost all of his edits, just dont want content to get lost, we all know how important content is, hidden content is not good content.... content.. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 06:37, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*Fan vids aren't content, they're growths on the article's backside. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:39, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*Thanks, I'll get these articles looking good. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 12:37, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*You do that. Call me if anyone else tries to revert your work. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 12:54, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*You're a good man. That's all. I which I had your cajones. If you're female, you're still a good man, and I still wish I had your cojones. Love, [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 19:03, 28 January 2012 (PST)
**Thanks, more to come soon. I want to heal the world. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 19:08, 28 January 2012 (PST)
*Ok i have been following your edits and still agree with most of them. I did revert and basically rewrite one of them because i felt that the section while poorly and written, still contained some information worth saving.
**What? [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 11:19, 30 January 2012 (PST)

==I salute you sir==
You've done what no-one else on this wiki had the balls to do. Not even me. You took the fight to the spergs, and you won. You didn't even get banned like Delabonte did for it! Truly, you have accomplished great things in your short time here. The CWCki is a better place for having had you, and you've inspired me to start being harsh to faggots as well. I once thought their ilk could not be stopped, but you've given an old meme hope again youngster. Enjoy your break my friend, you have earned it. I'll hold the fort in your place. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:32, 17 February 2012 (PST)

*While I can't endorse your underlying motives, Cleftpalete, I have similar sentiments as Old meme. I'd definitely say you're one of the better new editors. I haven't had any issues involving you, maybe I haven't paid enough attention, but do try to be civil with people, even as stupid as they can be. But if someone like Slimz gives you shit for your edits, just let me know, I'll have your back, bro.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:56, 18 February 2012 (PST)

*Thank you very much, sirs. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 11:33, 21 February 2012 (PST)

/cwc/ sends it's regards, good sir. You are a true nigga. You should mod the forums, THAT'd be fun.

BRICKSQUAD! GROVE ST! BRRRR --[[User:789fag|789fag]] 11:39, 4 March 2012 (PST)
*Thank you very much, you should've seen what I did to that faggot after he pm'ed, I'll post it to my user page later. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 11:44, 4 March 2012 (PST)

== Watch [[My Little Pony|this article]], comrade ==
The spergs have their eyes on it. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:31, 28 February 2012 (PST)
*Alright, will do, my friend. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 11:21, 28 February 2012 (PST)

==Sarah May article==

I modified your edits to the article just now. It may be true that they made Chris do some stupid stuff for stupid reasons, but there's a reason why the GAMePLACe article doesn't mention that it was owned by a sex offender or how what BlueSpike did was wrong. It's not relevant to Chris. A half-intelligent reader can figure it out anyway.

While I understand and agree with your perspective on the material, what 'she' did or how she did it is far less relevant than how Chris responded, which should be the sole focus of the article. I'm not pretending you added paragraphs about how horrible Sarah May is, but I feel like parts were straying away from Chris.

On a similar note, leaving things open for the reader to interpret is important. That's why articles don't outright insult Chris, even when he's clearly wrong. It may just be me, but I feel that calling 'her' "twisted" or using words like "interrogating" is biased, even if it is correct.
So that's why I did that.

That said, your stance on "holy shit he said Julie 4 TIMES" and then understating the suicide thing is something I can agree with, definitely. I use this example too much, but it's like when people were bitching at Chris for making fun of the Titanic because "PEOPLE DIED THERE". I think people try too hard to make Chris look like the bad guy sometimes.

I accept that you have a strong opinion on this, so if you think I'm wrong, just let me know. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 14:23, 2 March 2012 (PST)
*First of all, you're telling me it's more important for Chris's reaction to be recorded than the action? The action completely influences the reaction! It is extremely relevant to Chris what happened, being that he was being blackmailed, which the article didn't even mention. That sounds pretty relevant to me.

Also, saying that the articles don't outright insult Chris is simply not true, almost all articles outright insult Chris. I know that smart people like you don't want that here, but it's still there.

You need to be able to talk about specific people at least a little bit. To call Barb [[Snorlax]], or even to go in depth about what [[Anna McLerran]] thinks about Chris are things that take away from Chris.

The article is awful, and it needs to be changed. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 14:58, 2 March 2012 (PST)

What the he'll is wrong with you? I made a few harmless changes to the Sarah May article and you rage on me for "bastardizing" it. Calm down, this is just a wiki. Your edits aren't definitive anyways. But you don't have to be so angry and hostile to me. [[User:Chaosakita|ChaosAkita]] 09:30, 4 March 2012 (PST
*also, I only edited the page once after you so I have no idea what further and further is supposed to mean. I look forward to seeing your snappy retort. [[User:Chaosakita|ChaosAkita]] 09:33, 4 March 2012 (PST))
*I didn't "rage" at you specifically, I was also "raging" at freecell. Also why would I be nice to you? You made a forum thread where every single poster insulted me. Also, I have changed this wiki more than you know, so don't undermine me or my edits. Are you uncomfortable with me being "snappy", everybody who has talked to me has been destroyed, because they can't debate worth shit, including you. Also, stop posting on my talk page, one post is enough. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 09:37, 4 March 2012 (PST)
**huh? What? Ok.... Do you think I made that topic to spite you? And I guess you are a real master debator. Yup, I really can't debate shit. Hope that makes you happy. [[User:Chaosakita|ChaosAkita]] 09:43, 4 March 2012 (PST)
**Yep, you can't, and you're proving that right now. Get out. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 09:45, 4 March 2012 (PST)

So much for being the favorite. It didn't stop you from being banned. I guess you didn't want it anyways to begin with. [[User:Chaosakita|ChaosAkita]] 12:51, 4 March 2012 (PST)
:Chaosakita, I'm not on your side of this issue, either. Both of you calm the fuck down and stop insulting each other. A wiki is supposed to be a place where people work together to create good articles, not mud-slinging over several talk pages or reverting minor edits because you don't like the other editor. Neither of you are right here, and this isn't a victory. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 12:58, 4 March 2012 (PST)

===My take===
I've looked at the Sarah May article, and at first, I'm like "What? He changed like three words" but now I see that he added stuff about Sarah may being twisted and that sort of thing. Here's what I think - I agree with Cleftpalete that we should try to be critical of trolls. Trolls are people too, they do have their faults and because of the focus on Chris, we tend to let them off easy. HOWEVER, I think that being overly critical of the trolls is just as bad as being overly critical of Chris. I think if criticism is due, then it is.

In this case though, we should look at the particulars though. Cleftpalete, I believe you added how she was an "extremely twisted" troll? How do you back up this claim? I don't exactly see it in the article. If the article argues that Chris was frazzled when he accidentally said Julie's name instead of Sarah May, isn't it reasonable to argue that perhaps Sarah May was short tempered with Chris's actions over the course of their relationship? It's frustrating to deal with Chris, this is why BlueSpike went overboard when he had his final call because he's just so frustrated and wanted to let Chris have it. I'm just saying if we're excusing Chris's behavior due to an emotional state, why not excuse Sarah May's behavior? Still, how does what she did an "extremely twisted" troll? Why "extremely" and why "twisted"? Is it just because she made Chris draw a drawing to get his account back? I think she wouldn't be much of a troll if she didn't do anything in return. I believe that when we show Chris is guilty of something or is deserving of criticism, we should show evidence of it and this is the same case here with Sarah May.

Furthermore, this goes to Cleftpalete and ChaosAkita, you gotta chill. Remember, this is a wiki about ''an autistic manchild.'' This isn't an article about Jesus Christ or Existentialism, it's an article about a girl who's claim to fame is getting Chris to draw a picture of his OC getting fucked in the ass. There are far bigger things to worry about, even on this wiki. Fuck, I forget who Sarah May is but then I remember "Oh yeah, she was the one with Rosechu and the strapon."

Also Cleftpalete, dude, you can't take this stuff personally. You attacking other users is just as counter productive as if you were adding shitty edits. I can understand you disagree with people, you're in a small minority, but you gotta be civil with people. You gotta be like "I disagree with your edits and here's why" as opposed to "Fuck you, my edits are better." I've seen far too many good editors end up quitting the CWCki because they take things personally and attack users personally instead of focusing on making edits.

If there's particulars I've missed, by all means speak up, either side, and I'll try to resolve what I may have missed. I appreciate that you two are very passionate about improving the CWCki, even though you seem to differ on what exactly it is, but fighting is not productive at all.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:16, 5 March 2012 (PST)
*I apologize about earlier, Champ. I get too easily pissed off over minimal things, and processed everything in my head as me being completely right. I think it's better if I stay away from people and just focus on editing. I took a break, and I'm just going to stay in my editing bubble, as I can see that I can solve more problems that way. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 08:46, 4 April 2012 (PDT)

== I for one would love to hear Chaos's embarrassing messages from CWCki Forums ==
I haven't checked /cwc/ today, so I don't know if you've posted them or not yet, but if you haven't, send me them anyway. I'm always interested in some decent drama, and I need a good laugh today. And you are right about the Sarah May article by the way, but be careful about insulting faggots like chaos over it. It's doing that which got Delabonte banned for six months, and this wiki badly needs someone like you or him to keep these articles clean. And don't start on Freecell either. He's cool. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:17, 6 March 2012 (PST)
*Sorry about that, Oldmeme. I got extremely heated up earlier this month. I'll keep my distance from the actual users and focus on the content. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 08:46, 4 April 2012 (PDT)
**You're on the right track. I saw those screenshots from CWCki forum on /cwc/ a little while back, and I do think you went over the top there. HOWEVER, the fact that you're such a force against faggotry here has earned you enough respect in my eyes that I won't hold it against you this time. Just remember what they say about arguing on the internet; even if you win, you're still retarded. So don't try to argue with spergs. That's how they infect you. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 04:25, 5 April 2012 (PDT)

== Professor Dallum ==

Sorry old boy but that Professor Dallum pic that you mentioned in "the ugly" is from Chris's "Good Fan Art" from the CWCipedia, plus it's from a semi-gal pal of sorts. As the Good Fan Art gives us insight into Chris's appreciation of aesthetics or lack thereof, it's notable and our mission to document Chris, of course, supersedes other policies.

I think it was wise of you to take a break, just keep making good edits and help point out stuff instead of getting into arguments with people.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:10, 4 April 2012 (PDT)
*Alright, got that. And will do. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 09:13, 4 April 2012 (PDT)

CWCki:General

2012-03-23T13:38:27Z

Old meme: /* Chris an violence */

User talk:An Anonymous Guru

2012-03-23T13:29:23Z

Old meme:

User talk:An Anonymous Guru

2012-03-20T16:21:16Z

Old meme:

Sonic the Hedgehog

2012-03-20T16:00:29Z

Old meme: GTFO Sonicfag

{{quote|"Sonic the Hedgehog is my lifelong hero.|[[Christian Weston Chandler]].}}
[[Image:Sonichuripoff.jpg|thumb|150px|Chris's current hero.]]

'''Sonic the Hedgehog''' is a character made by Sega which became their mascot, which the beloved [[Sonichu (comic)|comic book]] hero [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] was inspired by.

Chris claims that Sonic has been his "life long hero"<ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPv7MqvrDK0&feature=player_embedded#!</ref> since June [[1990]][''sic'']<ref>''Sonic the Hedgehog'' wasn't released until June [[1991]] - see [[Wikipedia:Sonic_the_Hedgehog_(video_game)|here]]. Interestingly, this is also a question on Chris's [[Quizzes#Sonic_the_Hedgehog_History|''Sonic the Hedgehog'' MyBuzz quiz]] which Chris assigns the right answer of June 1991.</ref>, replacing [[The American Rabbit]].<ref>[http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#Conception_and_Creation CWCipedia article on Sonichu]</ref>

==History==
Chris likely first learned about Sonic from a magazine promotion of the series from late 1990, involving the basic plot of Sonic running around to defeat [[Robotnik]], who was portrayed as a [[Obesity|plump]], [[Chris and his Ego|egotistical]] man who would endeavor to conquer Mobius and destroy Sonic, failing spectacularly each time. A show based on the games called [[Wikipedia:Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog|''Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog'']] was promoted via a [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes|contest]], with the grand prize being a [[Chris and money|$1,000 video game shopping spree]]. Chris was one of the two winners of the shopping spree and was featured in a news story about the contest, one of the biggest moments (if not ''the'' biggest moment) in his early life, spreading its influence far and wide, from his decisions to enter contests (cf. [[GameStop Be A Star Sweepstakes]], [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown]], [[Harvey Birdman Commercial|''Harvey Birdman'' Commercial]], [[Pixelated PS3]]) to the eventual creation of [[Sonichu]]. Chris's loyalty was so strong that he was visibly upset when told by bullies that Sonic was dead.<ref>[[Jackie Chat 9|Jackie Chat #9]]</ref>

==Role in the comics==
Sonic first appears in [[Sonichu 0|''Sonichu'' #0]] as Super Sonic battling the [[Perfect Chaos Monster]] in [[Station Square]]. Whilst battling him, a [[Pikachu]] comes to fight Perfect Chaos and is tackled by Sonic. The power of the Chaos Emeralds mutates said Pikachu into [[Sonichu]], who then defeats Perfect Chaos.

[[Sonichu 1|In the following issue]], he crashes into Sonichu again. After recognizing each other, they team up in order to rescue [[Rosechu]] from the clutches of [[Black Sonichu]].

Other than being the catalyst for the creation of Sonichu and teaming up with him in the second issue, Sonic serves no other purpose. He disappears after issue #1, never mentioned again until [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]], where [[Robbie]] sickeningly refers to him as "Uncle Sonic".

===Tails's lack of a role in the comics===
'''Miles "Tails" Prower''' is Sonic's sidekick, and has been in the franchise since [[Wikipedia:Sonic The Hedgehog 2|''Sonic the Hedgehog II'']] was released in [[1992]] for the [[Wikipedia:Sega Master System|Sega Master System]]. He has been featured in almost every form of ''Sonic''-related media such as cartoons, anime, and comic books. As such, many have been perplexed on why neither he nor an idiot ripoff (likely named "Prowerlo Sonichu") has made an appearance in ''Sonichu''.
[[Image:0860-Cwcville9.JPG|thumb|He did make a [[Lego]] version of tails.]]
Chris has refused to include Tails in his comics, despite ripping off Knuckles and Shadow and featuring an [[Transformers|Autobot]] named "[[Prower]]". Contrary to what some believe, it is not likely Tails was omitted because of the rumors (made by [[BlueSpike|thirteen-year-olds]] on [[GameFAQs|GameFAGs]] and Failgrounds) that Sonic and Tails were a [[homos|gay]] couple. Chris said that "I just did not feel need for a Tails-like Character in the stories. I disagree with all the rumors against Tails; if you read the [[Wikipedia:Sonic the Hedgehog (comics)|''Sonic the Hedgehog'' Comic Book Series]] from Archie Comics, Tails gets a Girlfriend."<ref>[[Mailbag_21#Why no Tails?|Mailbag #21]]</ref> He later claims that he "did not feel it appropriate for Tails to be in my comic."<ref>[[Mailbag_38#Chris is an expert matchmaker|Mailbag #38]]</ref>
Despite this, Chris ''did'' create a Tails-like [[Pokémon]] named Evails, though he only appeared on the [[Wall of Originals]]. Tails also gets a mention in "[[Sonichu & Rosechu… The Genesis of the Lovehogs]]", a Sonichu short story which predates the comics.

== Amy Rose ==
'''Amy Rose''' is a ''[[Sonic]]'' character created in [[1993]], making her first appearance in the game [[Wikipedia:Sonic CD|''Sonic CD'']]. She serves as the self-proclaimed love interest of [[Sonic the Hedgehog]]. In fleshing out the world of [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]], Chris quickly ripped off the character to serve as Sonichu's girlfriend, [[Rosechu]].

[[Image:Chrischan_traced.jpg|thumb|Yep, definitely different.]]

While Sonichu is essentially a recolor of Sonic with a Pikachu tail shoved up his ass, Rosechu is a much more direct rip-off. Like Amy Rose, Rosechu has green eyes and pink fur, with the spines on her head arranged to resemble a bob haircut. Both wear red boots and dresses, with Rosechu's having a blue trim in a slightly different pattern to Amy's white trim. Visually, the only obvious distinction between the two is the [[Raichu]] tail Rosechu has, and the spines on the center of Amy's forehead, which Rosechu lacks. It should be noted, however, that when Chris draws Amy, he [[Chris and art|fails]] to draw the forehead spines properly.

{{quote|MAJOR Differences between Amy and Rosie; Amy never had spikes on her back, the clothes are Different; Rosie’s Headband is White, not Red, and Rosechu has a modern girl kinda attitude, and lucky for her, Sonichu RARELY runs away from her charms. And, of course, she has her Electric-Type Attacks to boot.|Christian Weston Chandler, damning himself with [[The Sonichu Chronicles|faint praise]].}}

[[Image: Rosechu-AmyRose2.jpg|thumb|200px|right|Even Chris is bored with this sexist gabfest.]]

As Chris points out, the only real difference between Amy and Rosechu in terms of characterization is that while Amy's crush on Sonic is not reciprocated, Sonichu has been sucking face with Rosechu since the [[Sonichu 0|day they met]]. Obviously, this hardly marks a difference in their ''personality''. If anything, it says more about the differences between Sonic and Sonichu, since they respond differently to affection. Since she's already made her romantic conquest, Rosechu is free to pursue the life of a "modern girl", which apparently means [[Sonichu 8|face-raping people]] and producing [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack|amateur pornography]].

[[Image: Rosechu-AmyRose1.jpg|thumb|200px|left|Sheesh, they even think the same words.]]

As an epilogue to the Sonichu/Sonic team-up in [[Sonichu 1|''Sonichu'' #1]], Rosechu happens to meet Amy in [[CWCville Mall]]. With no hint of irony, the two remark upon how similar they are, and engage in a [[Women's Rights|vapid conversation about shopping and relationships]].

== Shadow the Hedgehog ==
Introduced in [[2001]]'s [[Wikipedia:Sonic Adventure 2|''Sonic Adventure 2'']], '''Shadow the Hedgehog''' is an anti-hero version of Sonic the Hedgehog. Quickly becoming a fan favorite among the ''Sonic'' family of characters, it was only a matter of time before [[Chris]] decided to "create" another [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]]...

Unlike [[Rosechu]], who is virtually identical to Amy in every relevant respect, [[Black Sonichu]] (Blake) only resembles Shadow in his color scheme and tenuous allegiance to the forces of evil. While Shadow is primarily motivated by his desire to learn about his mysterious past, Black Sonichu was informed of every aspect of his creation by [[Naitsirhc]]. Most notably, while Shadow is supposed to be a dark and edgy character, Black Sonichu is basically just a punk, committing blatant mischief for very transparent motives.

While this might seem to make Black Sonichu halfway original, it really only means that he's a poor copy of [[Sonichu]] instead of a slightly less poor copy of Shadow. Blake's only real claim to individuality was that he acted like an asshole; since falling for [[Bubbles]] in [[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]], he doesn't even have that going for him.

Shadow makes one appearance in the ''Sonichu'' canon when he shows up as a drummer for [[Christian and the Hedgehog Boys]], but is later replaced by [[Punchy Sonichu]].

==Comics==
[[File:Sth189.jpg|thumb|right|More likely than not a bigger inspiration than the games series itself.]]

Sonic comics are almost as numerous as the games themselves, pumped out at a whim for a buck; they even made series specific for each region of the world. The one Chris is familiar with is the one published by Archie Comics, published in, obviously, America.

Chris has hinted at and mentioned that he is familiar with this comic series, and the layout of his comics tends to replicate the style of early Archie ''Sonic'' covers. Reldnahc's calling Chris "Prime-Chan" in the comic may be a reference to the character [[Wikipedia:List_of_Sonic_the_Hedgehog_comic_book_characters#Evil_Sonic.2FScourge_the_Hedgehog|Scourge the Hedgehog]], an evil version of Sonic from another dimension; Sonic is referred to as "Sonic Prime" when dealing with inter-dimensional storylines. Chris has also been known to trace images from an early special of the comic, "Super Sonic vs. Hyper Knuckles", for the basis of some of his fight scenes, and one of the early shorts, entitled "Sonichu 25 Years Later," takes its name from a 2004 arc called "Mobius 25 Years Later." Whether he still reads the comics now or not is unknown. He has stated that he would like ''Sonichu'' to be published by Archie Comics.<ref>[[IRC (22 December 2008)]]</ref><ref>[[Mumble 6|Mumble Chat #6]]</ref> If Chris still reads it, it will probably be a source of plagiarism and mass-debating for years to come.

Starting in [[April 2010]], [[Sony]] began releasing the Archie ''Sonic'' comics for download via the [[Playstation Network]].<ref>[http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/04/22/playstation-comics-store-update-17/ PlayStation Comics Store Update]</ref> The likelihood that Chris has purchased them? [[Chris and money|Close to 100%.]]

==Plagiarism==
To put it bluntly, Sonichu is a [[copyright]] infringement. Chris tries to work around this fact by claiming that Sonichu is a [[parody]] of Sonic the Hedgehog, but Chris clearly does not understand what the word means, as Sonichu does not derive humor or provide commentary on the original franchise.

==Gallery==
<center>
<gallery>
Image:001-Christophers1stSonic.jpg|Chris drew this in between ages 8 and 28.
Image:075-SonicAndSonichu.jpg|He's a street smart cop with twenty years on the force! He's a rookie straight out of academy! Together, they fight crime!
Image:063-SonicVsSonichu.jpg|Because we all like to see our favorite heroes crossover one day! [[Sonichu 1|Oh wait!]]
Image:0065-Sonic.jpg|Sonic looking an awful lot like Chris.
Image:326-SonicJamCard.jpg|...I thought the answer was "Aim for the [[Sonichu 4|sourdough region]]"?
Image:327-SonicJamCardBck.jpg|[[6 June 2010|Yep,]] [[Don't Mess With Me|that]] [[Sonichu 10|most]] [[Autism Tutorial Extra|certainly ]][[28 October 2011|taught]] [[I'LL BREAK YOU DEAD|him.]]
Image:445-SonicTotem.JPG|0-0 [http://www.geekologie.com/2009/12/um_yeah_maybe_get_somebody_els.php Geekologie Reader] does not approve of Chris's artwork.
Image:447-CWCSonicPlate.JPG|Sonic the Blowfish
Image:468-SonicCup.JPG|Chris makes his own [[Jimmy Hill|unlicensed ''Sonic'' merchandise]].
Image:469-SonicCupSide.JPG|Hello, lawsuit.
Image:0064-ChristianWSonic.jpg|Chris was so excited, he produced [[dirty, crapped briefs]].
Image:0077-SonicDoll.jpg|Chris still has this doll and it has seen [[For Julie's Eyes Only|horrible things]].
</gallery>
</center>

==See also==
* [[Doctor Robotnik]]
* [[Chris and copyright]]

==References==
<references/>

==External links==
* [[Wikipedia:Sonic the Hedgehog (character)|Sonic the Hedgehog]] on [[Wikipedia]]

{{Hedgehog Boys}}
{{Not_Jerks}}

[[Category:Stubs|Sonic the Hedgehog]]
[[Category:Things Chris has ripped off]]
[[Category:Video Games]]

[[Category:Christian and the Hedgehog Boys band members]]

Talk:My Little Pony

2012-03-16T16:38:36Z

Old meme: CHAMP. GET ON THIS NOW.

==To do==
*Pictures of Chris's My Little Ponies (each individual one and the general collection as seen in his room)
*Origins of Chris's fascination as related to Megan
*There should also be direct links to CWCki articles and not links to YouTube video in regards to the videos where you can see MLPs hanging from his wall. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 14:50, 28 August 2009 (CEST)
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Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqVMZFTifmI has a picture of one. --[[User:Ritegroic|Ritegroic]] 07:24, 11 March 2009 (CET)

==Someone get me a pic!==

If someone can track my down a really good image of his MLP collection, I could ID them and point out the rare ones, if any, and see how much money he's blown on this shit. There are some that are $200+ in value. I've looked at all of the shots of his room I could find but to no avail. [[User:BubblegumPinkButler|BubblegumPinkButler]] 04:09, 12 May 2009 (CEST)
: Does [[Megan Shrine]] help? [[:Image:Etc ebay bid.PNG]] shows bids but not wins. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 09:13, 12 May 2009 (CEST)
:: It does, a bit. From these, I see absolutely nothing rare at all. I was at LEAST hoping to see one of the Christmas ponies that go for about $50, or the European only ones that fetch a fair price in the USA. All of these could be obtained at Walmart for God's sake. But they're being obtained on eBay? Also, he might want to be careful keeping those around VHS tapes. The G3 My Little Ponies- which those all are- all contain magnets in the hooves. [[User:BubblegumPinkButler|BubblegumPinkButler]] 01:29, 13 May 2009 (CEST)

== Hair? ==

Where was the part about him using his own hair confirmed? On Camo-Flage, Ty Game, Johnlamence and Squall it looks to me like he cheaped out and used colored thread. [[User:Walter|Walter]] 10:55, 3 June 2009 (CEST)

== Squall Metal Alchemist ==

I was just reading the bios Chris made for his custom ponies and I think that Chris thinks that Edward Elric's name ''is'' Full Metal Alchemist. Just a [[random-access humor|random]] thought that came into my head. --[[User:Spandam-sama|Spandam-sama]] 21:03, 5 December 2009 (CET)
*Chris watches FMA. I'm going to have to kill myself now. --[[User:DStecks|DStecks]] 19:32, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

== Rehairing ==
I just had a fridge moment re: hairing. It seems like when Chris did his custom ponies, he rehaired the mane and not the tail. This is a bit ironic to me. See, the main is made up of what's called plug holes. They're a bunch of holes that go up and down the pony's head, and you have to take a sewing needle or similar instrument to put the new hair plugs in. On top of that, removing the old hair is a pain in the ass as you have to pop off the head and very carefully remove the hair, because if you're too rough with the hair removal you'll rip the plugs, making rehairing fairly impossible. The tail, though, is just a long string of plastic hair doubled over a metal washer, in the old ones, or a plastic bead, in the new ones, and pulled out of a long hole in the pony's ass. All these customs seem to have their original tail, which is by far the easiest part of a pony to replace during the customizing process. By the looks of it, Crystal has the original hair that the pony came with, mane and tail, but if you look at, for instance, Mimmbo Bo Boruto, the tail is very clearly the original nylon hair whereas the mane is what looks like embroidery floss. I can provide some photos on My Little Pony anatomy to show if anyone's really curious. I have a few ripped apart right now for a commission I'm working on. [[User:BubblegumPinkButler|BubblegumPinkButler]] 16:05, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

==new==
there were to many pictures,it was too cluttered and to many close ups. i am trying to arrenge it. i hope i didnt screwed it up. i havent finished it anyway. also, i wanted to add a new small seccion "in the comic", just to mention the cameo of the pony at the end of sonichu special.
BTW, does anybody remember that quote from the simpsons where lisa says that when she was younger, she wanted to have her pony as bridemaid or somethin?, i wanted to include it, as it is very fittin in the last scene of sonichu special. --[[User:Rosechupenis|Rosechupenis]] 05:46, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

==SECOND OPINION PLOX!!!!11111==
[[File:Sexyponies.jpg|thumb]]
this morning i was browsing /b/ and i came across this image.
i wanted to use it to spice up the article and maybe to add some snark with it, and having it instead of one of the others (maybe the one with chris, i came out too bluish), but as Chris hasnt (that we know) sexualized the ponies i may be getting off topic. i dont know Cwcki, wat do?--[[User:Rosechupenis|Rosechupenis]] 03:56, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
*Adding such an image would be too distracting for the article and take away from the main point in that Chris is a full grown "man" who plays with toys intended for little girls. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 13:20, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

==MLP in early Sonichu comics?!?==

am I th only one who knew that in the mid 80's there was a series of my little pony episodes where the ponies had their master stone called the [[Legendary Master Sunstone|sunstone]] stolen? If I remember right this [[Legendary Master Sunstone|sunstone]] brought light and life to the land. The [[Legendary Master Sunstone|sunstone]] in MLP is even the same color as the stone in the comic. http://www.kimsites.net/dreamvalley/media/cool.jpg I don't know is this is all coincidence or not. But it is just too similar for my mind not to make the connection. --[[User:Bad bed head|Bad bed head]] 18:39, 30 March 2011 (PDT)

== I just want to point out the irony ==

in having "If Chris is merciful enough this might be the last time he punishes the MLP fandom. We can only hope." in an article making fun of an adult for liking My Little Pony. I'd bet good money that edit wasn't made by a nine year old girl.
--[[User:Elias|Elias]] 05:36, 11 June 2011 (PDT)
:How a lot of the internet feels about MLP has changed a lot because of the quality of latest series, Friendship is Magic. This article is not the place to take a definitive stance on this issue, though. I think a mention of how Chris made all of his original ponies long before FiM premiered might be needed, since the MLP series before it are still bad and have no appeal outside of the target demographic but Chris still apparently cared about that shit. Besides, he still made OC ponies including at least one self-insert which is pretty bad regardless. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 14:53, 5 July 2011 (PDT)
::Oh okay, ''your'' ponies are different. --[[User:Elias|Elias]] 15:41, 20 July 2011 (PDT)

== Picture replacement ==

The Poorcamo picture is hard to see in thumbnail form and I've seen no proof that is actually is Camo-Flage. I'd suggest replacing it with the MLP avatar Chris uses on the Tomgirl forum. If someone can prove which pony it is, then a cropped verion of the picture should be put next to that pony's entry in the gallery. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 09:12, 25 July 2011 (PDT)
:Also, lack of response will be interpreted as agreement. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 16:34, 25 July 2011 (PDT)
*Two things. One, stop raging. It's just a picture. Two - a lack of response is more an indicator of a lack of care and or other commitments (see: school, work) distracting users from being here 24/7 to humor you. Listen, you can't just replace pictures without talking about it on the talk page. That's just general wiki convention. But now that you HAVE brought the topic up we can talk about it. [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 20:34, 25 July 2011 (PDT)
:*You have an odd definition of raging. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 06:55, 26 July 2011 (PDT)

==Camo-Flage Source?==
So how do we know the horse in the picture is Camo-Flage? [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 20:34, 25 July 2011 (PDT)
::It definitely isn't Camo-Flage. If you look at the list of My Little Ponies that Chris has, you'll see that Camo-Flage is green with brown blotches and brown hair. This one looks like it would have been Mimmbo Bo Boruto before the repaint and without the hair yet. When you zoom in as much as you can (or at least with as much as I could) you can see that this My Little Pony is maneless (for now), a light blue colored body, a purple tail (much like Mimmbo Bo Boruto), but it has a yellow emblem on its butt (maybe a star burst?) which is different (color and shape) then all the My Little Ponies Chris has...so it's probably a new one that isn't listed OR it's one Chris bought for the sole purpose of ripping it's mane off to give to another My Little Pony... Long story short, there's no way it's Camo-Flage, before or after it's true and honest creation. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 04:15, 26 July 2011 (PDT)

== Another Reaction? ==

Would you think it be funny to find a picture of RD from FiM when she's in that beetle position (in the Rainboom episode) and put it here as a "reaction" image? It kinda does make sense, since anyone who sees the horrors of CWC would hide in fear.

--[[User:AvarSpike|AvarSpike]] 12:59, 26 September 2011 (PDT)
:No reaction pictures, plz. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 13:11, 26 September 2011 (PDT)
::Joke got really old and people started abusing it? --[[User:AvarSpike|AvarSpike]] 13:13, 26 September 2011 (PDT)
:::Yes. And we want to discourage any attempts at shoehorning FIM references into this. I'm no Delabonte, so I'm not going to attack bronyfags in this article over what kind of television they like, but I'd prefer if people could keep the stupid in-jokes to a minimum. I only barely tolerate all the Metal Gear Solid references, and that series is actually good. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:04, 27 September 2011 (PDT)

== Requesting page protection ==
The article right now sums up everything about Chris and MLP nicely, and I don't see any more content related to MLP coming by in the near future. I think this article should be locked to prevent obsessive bronies trying to shoehorn in more FiM references and memes. We really don't need anything more about the bronies in this article, but they seem to have not yet realised that, and that means this article is technically a target for vandalism. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 09:38, 16 March 2012 (PDT)

My Little Pony

2012-03-16T16:34:57Z

Old meme: IRRELEVANT.

{{taxpayermoney}}

[[Image:Chris_Chan_Pony.png|thumb|Chris Chan: The original brony]]
'''My Little Pony''' (MLP) is a line of [[toys]] and animated programs intended for girls aged 4-8. Chris picked up an interest in the franchise after being introduced to it by [[Megan]] in [[2007]], buying several of the toys as well making custom-made My Little Pony dolls for his friends. He has since developed an interest in the "[[wikipedia:My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic|My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic]]" cartoon.

==Chris and ponies==
[[File:Poorcamo.jpg|thumb|left|One of Chris's ponies, as seen in his [[bedroom]].]]

The homemade ponies vary between being blatant ripoffs of [[anime]] characters, most notably the titular character from ''[[wikipedia:Naruto|Naruto]]'' and [[Wikipedia:Edward Elric|Edward Elric]] from ''[[Wikipedia:Fullmetal Alchemist|Fullmetal Alchemist]]'', and horrible [[Wikipedia:Mary Sue|Mary Sues]] such as [[Cherokee|Cheroki-Chan]], who is clearly based on the [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|comic-book version of Chris]], and Crystal, [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|whose origin is obvious]].

In his infamous [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|FUTURE MESSAGE]], Chris first made his love of My Little Pony known when he recommended to all his viewers that they buy MLP figures of their favorite color to stroke and rub against their cheek, claiming that it was "very therapeutic" and that one could talk to the ponies and pretend that they were girls they wanted to ask out, to help them build confidence. At the time, this was viewed as a very revealing aspect of Chris's life, earning him the mockery of [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] and [[4chan]] yet again.

In [[CWC Update 18 March 2009 More Updated|Captain's Log, Stardate March 18th, 2009]], you can see his My Little Ponys hanging from his ceiling.

One of the latest known references to MLP made by Chris was on the [[Tomboys and Tomgirls of Virginia]] forum, where Chris used a picture of Applejack from the more recent ''[[wikipedia:My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic|My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic]]'' animated series as his avatar, although his screen name was modeled after the name of another major character in the series- [[Rainbow|Rainbow Dash]].

[[Image:ponyboy.jpg|thumb|Applejack as Chris's avatar on [[Tomboys and Tomgirls of Virginia]].]]

A ''Friendship is Magic'' Rainbow Dash toy can be sighted in the background of "[[Correction_of_EX_relationship_status|Correction of EX relationship status]]" and a My Little Pony sticker can be seen on Chris's [[3DS]] in the [[Wristwatch-SwissWatch for Jeremy "Thorg"|Wristwatch-SwissWatch]] video.

Chris also has a ''Friendship is Magic'' playlist on his [[YouTube]] account that includes all the episodes, confirming once and for all his love for a children's show.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL20EBD1B6E8BB9E6F Chris's ''My Little Pony - Friendship is Magic'' playlist on YouTube]</ref> Considering [[Ghostbusters|his]] [[Transformers|previous]] [[Pokemon|track]] [[The Adventures of the American Rabbit|record]], it's not exactly surprising.

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==Cutie mark==

In the new videos released on [[February_2012|Feb 25th]], Chris was spotted showing off a drawing on his left thigh which he calls his "cutie mark". It is the combination of the male and female symbol, surprisingly ''not'' having anything to do with [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] for once. It does not seem to be a real tattoo, but instead is drawn on, most likely with his [[Chris and Art|felt-tip pens]].

In the ''My Little Pony'' universe, a cutie mark is a symbol representing an individual pony's special talent and interest. Chris's special talent, it seems, is being a [[tomgirl]]. Considering [[Chris and art|most]] [[Chris and music|other]] [[Spanish|things]] [[Chris and writing|Chris]] [[Chris and cosplaying|has]] [[Sonichu (comic)|tried]] and almost always failed at, it's still not all that surprising.

==In the comics==
[[File:Ponywed.jpg|thumb|Show this to any father with a young daughter and he'd probably think she made it. Purposely bad.]]

Like any eight-year-old girl with the hopes of marrying a blue prince in a fairytale wedding with her BFF pony by her side, [[Wedding_Comic|Sonichu Special 2]] reveals to its unfortunate readers that Chris might have harbored similar thoughts, as his ideal wedding also features a My Little Pony.

After having received a blessing from the best [wo]man [[Sarah Hammer]], the recently united Chris and [[Ivy]] leave the church where the wedding was held in a carriage pulled by what many trolls speculate to be a badly-drawn [[Wikipedia:List_of_My_Little_Pony_characters#Rainbow_Dash|Rainbow Dash]], which is harnessed to the carriage with what appears to be the Boulder Badge from [[Pokémon]].

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==Gallery==
<center>
{| class="wikitable collapsible" width="600"
! colspan="4"|The Gallery of My Little Pony Straightness
|-
!Chris' creation
!Original
![[Card games|TCG card]]
!Notes
|-
|[[File:03-CWC Cheroki-Chan1.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Cheroki-Chan
|[[File:Chero.jpg|frameless|center|120px|text-bottom]] Pony in Seaspray Pose
|[[File:01-Cheroki-Chan_Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]][[File:02-Cheroki-Chan Card2.jpg|120px|center|text-bottom]]
|Chris's depiction of himself as a pony...or rather, a horse- [[Chris and his Ego|too awesome to be a common pony]]. Just as Chris, Cheroki-Chan has a few [[Autism|quirks]], likes to [[Chris and art|draw and color]], but above all, he is [[Rape|noble and honorable]]. Cheroki-Chan [[Semen|"creams"]] of finding a [[sweetheart]] for himself, yet is having problems, mainly from being rejected once by that [[Chris and race|multi-green pony]], possibly [[Megan|camouflaged]].
|-
|[[File:07-CWC Camo-Flage.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Camo-Flage
|[[File:Camo.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]] Pony in [[Wikipedia:List_of_My_Little_Pony_characters#Rainbow_Dash|Rainbow Dash]] pose
|[[File:06-Camo-Flage Card.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]]
|Posible representation of [[Megan Schroeder]]. She [[Friend Zone|rejected]] Cheroki-Chan's advances, and she is Jonhlamence's little sister.<ref>[[:File:12-Johnlamence Card.jpg]]</ref>
|-
|[[File:49-CWC Mimmbo Bo Boruto.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Mimmbo Bo Boruto
|[[File:Mimmbo.jpg|frameless|center|120px|text-bottom]] Pony in [[Wikipedia:List_of_My_Little_Pony_characters#Rainbow_Dash|Rainbow Dash]] pose
|[[File:48-Mimmbo Bo Boruto Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|Custom pony based on and made for [[Daniel Mimms]]. ''[[Wikipedia:Naruto|Naruto]]'' is another inspiration.
|-
|[[File:46-CWC Squall Metal Alchamest.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] [[Wikipedia:Full Metal Alchemist|Squall Metal Alchamest]]
|[[File:Squall.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Pony in [[Wikipedia:List_of_My_Little_Pony_characters#Rainbow_Dash|Rainbow Dash]] pose
|[[File:45-Squall Metal Alchemest Card.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]]
|An inter-dimensional pony with [[Barbara|motherly]] issues. Based on [[Wikipedia:Edward Elric|Edward Elric]] from ''[[Wikipedia:Fullmetal Alchemist|Fullmetal Alchemist]],'' though part of the name may come from Squall Leonhart of Final Fantasy 8.
|-
|[[File:10-CWC Crystal.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Crystal
|[[File:Crys.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]] Pony Cutie Keen Bean
|[[File:09-Crystal Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|Commemorative pony of [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]], Chris's future daughter.
|-
|[[File:13-CWC Johnlamence.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Jonhlamence's cyberwarrior
|[[File:Sala.jpg|frameless|center|120px|text-bottom]] Pony in Rarity Unicorn Pose
|[[File:12-Johnlamence Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|Camo-flage's older brother combined with the [[Pokémon]] [[Wikipedia:List of Pokémon (320–386)#Salamence|Salamence]].
|-
|[[File:18-CWC Ty Game2.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Ty Game
|[[File:ty_game.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]] Pony in Rainbow Swirl Pose
|[[File:16-Ty Game Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|[[Video games|Gamer]] Pony.
|-
|[[File:22-CWC Bee-Riana.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Bee Riana
|[[File:Bee reana (yellow with the antena.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Ponies Toola-Roola (left) and Meadowbrook (right)
|[[File:21-Bee-Riana Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|When he bought the two-Ponies-set, Chris took Toola-Roola's antennae and put them on Meadowbrook to create Bee-Riana. [[Chris and Sex|Toola-Roola hasn't been seen since]].
|-
|[[File:26-CWC Educait.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Educait
|[[File:Edu.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]] Pony in Sunny Daze Pose
|[[File:25-Educait Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|A nerdy Pony. It is of the [[Wallflower]] type.
|-
|[[File:30-CWC Honeysumerah.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Honeysumerah
|[[File:Honey.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]] Pony in Sweet Breeze Pose
|[[File:29-Honeysumerah Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|Based on a [[Britney Spears|shallow Pop Star]]. "Stickler for a tickler" comes from a throwaway ''[[Family Guy]]'' gag, from [[Wikipedia:When You Wish Upon a Weinstein|"When You Wish Upon a Weinstein"]].
|-
|[[File:33-CWC_Modest_Manna.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Modest Manna
|[[File:Modest.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Pony in Sweet Breeze Pose
|[[File:32-Modest Manna Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|[[Anna McLerran|Mormon]] pony.
|-
|[[File:36-CWC Linnhadey.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Linnhadey
|[[File:Lin.jpg|frameless|center|120px|text-bottom]] Pony in Beachberry Pose
|[[File:35-Linnhadey Card.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]]
|'[[Autism|Unique]] and [[McDonalds|Lovin' it]]' Pony.
|-
|[[File:43-CWC Federico.JPG|frameless|center|120px|text-bottom]] Federico
|[[File:Fede.jpg|frameless|center|120px|text-bottom]] Pony in Beachberry Pose
|[[File:42-Federico Card.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]]
|[[Spanish]] Pony. He is annoying because "chicos are chicos." From the rest of his description is impossible to find meaning, both English or Spanish wise.
|-
|[[File:39-CWC Buttonbeck.JPG|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]] [[Nudes|Butt]]onbeck
|[[File:Bottom beck.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]] Pony in Diva Pose
|[[File:38-Buttonbeck Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|[[Rosechu|Generic soulless and flavorless]] Pony.
|}
</center>

==See also ==
*[[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE]]
*[[List of toys]]

==References==
<references />

==External links==
*[[Wikipedia:My Little Pony|My Little Pony]] at [[Wikipedia]]
*[http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F12XOB4B Chris's MLP collection photoset download]

[[Category:Hobbies]]
[[Category:Toys]]

User talk:Cleftpalete

2012-03-06T16:17:48Z

Old meme: You're on thin ice bro. Don't overdo it.

==Hi there!==

[[Image:CWCiki_Introduction.jpg|thumb|300px|Welcome to CWCKI!]]

Welcome to [[CWCki]]! There's a lot to do around here because Chris never does anything himself. I hope you'll stay with us and make many improvements of your own!

:Before you start, be sure to read '''[[A Quick Guide to CWCki]]'''. This will guide you through the dos and don'ts of editing [[CWCki|the world's most accurate wiki]]. Be especially sure to read this if you consider Anonymous to be legion or if you've just come over from [[ED]]. Everything you know is [[lies|wrong]].

:'''[[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]]''' is a great first stop, because you can see what other people are editing right this minute, and where you can help.

:If you're looking for things to do, check out the '''[[CWCki:Priority Listing|priority listing]]''' for things that need to be done, or join a '''[[CWCki:Projects|project]]'''.

:If you haven't already, create a '''[[User:{{PAGENAME}}|user page]]''' about yourself! If you do, we'll be able to know you better as a member of our community. Just be sure to check out the [[CWCki:User pages|guidelines]] first.

:'''Questions?''' Please read the [[Frequently Asked Questions|FAQ]] first. Later, you can ask in the '''[[CWCki:Community_Portal|Community Portal]]''' or on the "discussion" page associated with each article, join the live chat in our [[Sonichu (IRC)|IRC channel]] or post a message on [[User talk:Anonymax|my talk page]]!

:Once again, welcome to CWCki!

--[[User:WelcomeBot|WelcomeBot]] 19:04, 26 January 2012 (PST)

== Dont remove CONTENT ==

ok im fine with your removal of unfunny BS but do not remove CONTENT like fan videos. The wiki is designed to be funny sarcastic and informative, this is not ED but its not wikipedia either... [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 05:08, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*Listen, I like some fan videos too. But some are shitty. And the "Homos" page is probably one of the most relevant pages on the wiki, when there's this big ugly video on a nice page like that I can't not remove it. Also I'm not trying to make it like ED or Wikipedia, I can just read certain pages and tell that spergs wrote them and I want to erase that ugliness. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 12:37, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*I agree with Cleftpalete here, I often seen videos which are thrown in for the sake of having videos and they really don't add to the article and bog it down. I don't think it's a tremendous loss. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:27, 18 February 2012 (PST)

==Keep it up and don't listen to Slimz==
You're doing the Lord's work here Cleftpalete. I have a feeling that you and I are going to get along just fine. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:35, 27 January 2012 (PST)
* i agree with almost all of his edits, just dont want content to get lost, we all know how important content is, hidden content is not good content.... content.. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 06:37, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*Fan vids aren't content, they're growths on the article's backside. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:39, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*Thanks, I'll get these articles looking good. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 12:37, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*You do that. Call me if anyone else tries to revert your work. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 12:54, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*You're a good man. That's all. I which I had your cajones. If you're female, you're still a good man, and I still wish I had your cojones. Love, [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 19:03, 28 January 2012 (PST)
**Thanks, more to come soon. I want to heal the world. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 19:08, 28 January 2012 (PST)
*Ok i have been following your edits and still agree with most of them. I did revert and basically rewrite one of them because i felt that the section while poorly and written, still contained some information worth saving.
**What? [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 11:19, 30 January 2012 (PST)

==I salute you sir==
You've done what no-one else on this wiki had the balls to do. Not even me. You took the fight to the spergs, and you won. You didn't even get banned like Delabonte did for it! Truly, you have accomplished great things in your short time here. The CWCki is a better place for having had you, and you've inspired me to start being harsh to faggots as well. I once thought their ilk could not be stopped, but you've given an old meme hope again youngster. Enjoy your break my friend, you have earned it. I'll hold the fort in your place. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:32, 17 February 2012 (PST)

*While I can't endorse your underlying motives, Cleftpalete, I have similar sentiments as Old meme. I'd definitely say you're one of the better new editors. I haven't had any issues involving you, maybe I haven't paid enough attention, but do try to be civil with people, even as stupid as they can be. But if someone like Slimz gives you shit for your edits, just let me know, I'll have your back, bro.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:56, 18 February 2012 (PST)

*Thank you very much, sirs. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 11:33, 21 February 2012 (PST)

/cwc/ sends it's regards, good sir. You are a true nigga. You should mod the forums, THAT'd be fun.

BRICKSQUAD! GROVE ST! BRRRR --[[User:789fag|789fag]] 11:39, 4 March 2012 (PST)
*Thank you very much, you should've seen what I did to that faggot after he pm'ed, I'll post it to my user page later. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 11:44, 4 March 2012 (PST)

== Watch [[My Little Pony|this article]], comrade ==
The spergs have their eyes on it. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:31, 28 February 2012 (PST)
*Alright, will do, my friend. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 11:21, 28 February 2012 (PST)

==Sarah May article==

I modified your edits to the article just now. It may be true that they made Chris do some stupid stuff for stupid reasons, but there's a reason why the GAMePLACe article doesn't mention that it was owned by a sex offender or how what BlueSpike did was wrong. It's not relevant to Chris. A half-intelligent reader can figure it out anyway.

While I understand and agree with your perspective on the material, what 'she' did or how she did it is far less relevant than how Chris responded, which should be the sole focus of the article. I'm not pretending you added paragraphs about how horrible Sarah May is, but I feel like parts were straying away from Chris.

On a similar note, leaving things open for the reader to interpret is important. That's why articles don't outright insult Chris, even when he's clearly wrong. It may just be me, but I feel that calling 'her' "twisted" or using words like "interrogating" is biased, even if it is correct.
So that's why I did that.

That said, your stance on "holy shit he said Julie 4 TIMES" and then understating the suicide thing is something I can agree with, definitely. I use this example too much, but it's like when people were bitching at Chris for making fun of the Titanic because "PEOPLE DIED THERE". I think people try too hard to make Chris look like the bad guy sometimes.

I accept that you have a strong opinion on this, so if you think I'm wrong, just let me know. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 14:23, 2 March 2012 (PST)
*First of all, you're telling me it's more important for Chris's reaction to be recorded than the action? The action completely influences the reaction! It is extremely relevant to Chris what happened, being that he was being blackmailed, which the article didn't even mention. That sounds pretty relevant to me.

Also, saying that the articles don't outright insult Chris is simply not true, almost all articles outright insult Chris. I know that smart people like you don't want that here, but it's still there.

You need to be able to talk about specific people at least a little bit. To call Barb [[Snorlax]], or even to go in depth about what [[Anna McLerran]] thinks about Chris are things that take away from Chris.

The article is awful, and it needs to be changed. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 14:58, 2 March 2012 (PST)

What the he'll is wrong with you? I made a few harmless changes to the Sarah May article and you rage on me for "bastardizing" it. Calm down, this is just a wiki. Your edits aren't definitive anyways. But you don't have to be so angry and hostile to me. [[User:Chaosakita|ChaosAkita]] 09:30, 4 March 2012 (PST
*also, I only edited the page once after you so I have no idea what further and further is supposed to mean. I look forward to seeing your snappy retort. [[User:Chaosakita|ChaosAkita]] 09:33, 4 March 2012 (PST))
*I didn't "rage" at you specifically, I was also "raging" at freecell. Also why would I be nice to you? You made a forum thread where every single poster insulted me. Also, I have changed this wiki more than you know, so don't undermine me or my edits. Are you uncomfortable with me being "snappy", everybody who has talked to me has been destroyed, because they can't debate worth shit, including you. Also, stop posting on my talk page, one post is enough. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 09:37, 4 March 2012 (PST)
**huh? What? Ok.... Do you think I made that topic to spite you? And I guess you are a real master debator. Yup, I really can't debate shit. Hope that makes you happy. [[User:Chaosakita|ChaosAkita]] 09:43, 4 March 2012 (PST)
**Yep, you can't, and you're proving that right now. Get out. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 09:45, 4 March 2012 (PST)

So much for being the favorite. It didn't stop you from being banned. I guess you didn't want it anyways to begin with. [[User:Chaosakita|ChaosAkita]] 12:51, 4 March 2012 (PST)
:Chaosakita, I'm not on your side of this issue, either. Both of you calm the fuck down and stop insulting each other. A wiki is supposed to be a place where people work together to create good articles, not mud-slinging over several talk pages or reverting minor edits because you don't like the other editor. Neither of you are right here, and this isn't a victory. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 12:58, 4 March 2012 (PST)

===My take===
I've looked at the Sarah May article, and at first, I'm like "What? He changed like three words" but now I see that he added stuff about Sarah may being twisted and that sort of thing. Here's what I think - I agree with Cleftpalete that we should try to be critical of trolls. Trolls are people too, they do have their faults and because of the focus on Chris, we tend to let them off easy. HOWEVER, I think that being overly critical of the trolls is just as bad as being overly critical of Chris. I think if criticism is due, then it is.

In this case though, we should look at the particulars though. Cleftpalete, I believe you added how she was an "extremely twisted" troll? How do you back up this claim? I don't exactly see it in the article. If the article argues that Chris was frazzled when he accidentally said Julie's name instead of Sarah May, isn't it reasonable to argue that perhaps Sarah May was short tempered with Chris's actions over the course of their relationship? It's frustrating to deal with Chris, this is why BlueSpike went overboard when he had his final call because he's just so frustrated and wanted to let Chris have it. I'm just saying if we're excusing Chris's behavior due to an emotional state, why not excuse Sarah May's behavior? Still, how does what she did an "extremely twisted" troll? Why "extremely" and why "twisted"? Is it just because she made Chris draw a drawing to get his account back? I think she wouldn't be much of a troll if she didn't do anything in return. I believe that when we show Chris is guilty of something or is deserving of criticism, we should show evidence of it and this is the same case here with Sarah May.

Furthermore, this goes to Cleftpalete and ChaosAkita, you gotta chill. Remember, this is a wiki about ''an autistic manchild.'' This isn't an article about Jesus Christ or Existentialism, it's an article about a girl who's claim to fame is getting Chris to draw a picture of his OC getting fucked in the ass. There are far bigger things to worry about, even on this wiki. Fuck, I forget who Sarah May is but then I remember "Oh yeah, she was the one with Rosechu and the strapon."

Also Cleftpalete, dude, you can't take this stuff personally. You attacking other users is just as counter productive as if you were adding shitty edits. I can understand you disagree with people, you're in a small minority, but you gotta be civil with people. You gotta be like "I disagree with your edits and here's why" as opposed to "Fuck you, my edits are better." I've seen far too many good editors end up quitting the CWCki because they take things personally and attack users personally instead of focusing on making edits.

If there's particulars I've missed, by all means speak up, either side, and I'll try to resolve what I may have missed. I appreciate that you two are very passionate about improving the CWCki, even though you seem to differ on what exactly it is, but fighting is not productive at all.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:16, 5 March 2012 (PST)

== I for one would love to hear Chaos's embarrassing messages from CWCki Forums ==
I haven't checked /cwc/ today, so I don't know if you've posted them or not yet, but if you haven't, send me them anyway. I'm always interested in some decent drama, and I need a good laugh today. And you are right about the Sarah May article by the way, but be careful about insulting faggots like chaos over it. It's doing that which got Delabonte banned for six months, and this wiki badly needs someone like you or him to keep these articles clean. And don't start on Freecell either. He's cool. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:17, 6 March 2012 (PST)

User:Old meme/Sandbox 4

2012-02-28T16:33:43Z

Old meme: Chris and sex rewrite. This page is trash, and it needs the Old Meme treatment.

{{Honest}}
[[Chris]] has a warped view of '''sexual intercourse''' (a.k.a. '''hanky-panky'''), mostly stemming from stunted sexual development and a sheltered upbringing. He first developed an understanding of sex from watching softcore porn on the HBO network around age 16. He describes pornographic films as "educational".<ref>[[Miyamoto Saga#Chris Sets the Record STRAIGHT]]</ref>

== Knowledge of sex and gender ==
[[Image:Thenightmarecontinues.jpg|thumb|Seven inches? Yeah, right.]]
In his mind, Chris has mastered all there is to know about sex, and now regards himself as a bit of a guru. He has said that kissing a woman is "magical and delightful... sweet and melting like ice cream or chocolate", a description he stole from ''[[Sailor Moon]]''.<ref>[[Mailbag 18#He might as well be talking about how to pilot the space shuttle|Mailbag 18]]</ref> In truth, Chris has never kissed a girl.<ref name="Jackie E-mails 2">[[Jackie E-mails 2]]</ref>

What he knows about sex he's picked up from rudimentary [[Manchester High School|high-school]] [[Dating education|sex education]] or [[pornography]]. This has engendered many false beliefs in Chris which he sticks to religiously. Readers who brave [[Chris Sex Logs|his sex chat logs]] should be able to immediately notice what's going wrong — Chris's fantasies are merely recreations of what he's seen in porno movies, rather than plausible sexual experiences. For example, he believed that [[Kacey]] would get off to a brutal tit-fucking followed by load after load of semen to the face.<ref>[[Kacey Phone Call]]</ref>

Other examples of Chris's crude misconceptions about sex abound. He mimics female porn stars' sex positions, spreads an imaginary vagina a yard across,<ref name="JR Eyes">[[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV]]</ref> and thinks that electric shocks to the vagina are pleasurable.<ref name="Cums cat">[[CWC Cums for a Cat]]</ref> He also seems to believe that a woman's vagina is higher up on the woman's body that it actually is;<ref>[http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:SchuComicSP3P7.jpg]</ref> this is undoubtedly due to his experience with [[Kimmi]] and [[Officer Nasty]]. The "missionary cowgirl" position mentioned in [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]] is a contradiction in terms. He can't even get the most basic double entendres correct, wearing a "receiver's" terrible Mountain Dew parody shirt thinking it's an invitation for women to try and ride [[Duck|his broken penis]].<ref name="JR Eyes" /> He thinks that his [[virgin]]ity is a precious and sought-after treasure which women will come in droves to take (he even went so far as to use it as a bargaining chip to haggle with a prostitute), and believes that [[mass debating|masturbating]] ultimately makes him better at sex.

Due to the combined threat of his somewhat [[Chris and English|slippery grip on language]] and his peculiar mindset on sex, Chris is noticeably confused about basic sexual terminology; for example, in [[Ivy Q&A#Threats|Ivy Q&A]] it's mentioned that Chris told Ivy that he had a "sticky dream" about her. When Ivy asked if he meant a wet dream, he replied, "No, that's when you pee yourself, silly!" While he may have the best of intentions, his word choices unwittingly present him in a very bad light. He refuses to use familiar terms — either medical or slang — for sex organs, instead calling penises "[[duck]]s" and "[[pickle]]s", and vaginas and vulvae "[[china]]".

According to [[Calling_Out#Calling_Out_Jack_Thaddius_-_Ahuviya|a video]] published in [[August 2011]], Chris enjoys female domination (going as far as to draw Sonichu and Rosechu performing the act in [[Sonichu 10]]). Given Chris's [[Virgin with rage|complete lack of sexual experience]], whether or not he actually knows what femdom is is anyone's guess.

===Chris and gender===
Among his more generally skewed view of gender roles, Chris has a distinctly sexist outlook towards [[Women's rights|women]]. Based on his failed attempts at getting girls at the mall, he has concluded that all girls are [[Boyfriend-free girl|already paired up]], [[Homos|lesbians]], or distracted with shopping. The notion that they might have good reasons for spurning his advances does not occur to him. He can’t seem to acknowledge the possibility that women just might not be drawn to a [[Obesity|fat, dumpy]] [[Chris and Anger|psycho]], carrying an "[[attraction sign]]" and the unpleasant aroma of [[Dirty Crapped Briefs|feces]] mixed with [[Axe]].

In [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]], he referred to women as another species. While at times it may seem as if women are from another planet, they are still classified as ''Homo sapiens'', just like manchildren.

Chris has an interesting grasp of stereotypical gay and straight behavior, too, insisting he's straight even as he acts like a mincing crossdressing homosexual. This can be explained by his [[autism|lack of empathy or ability to pick up on social cues]], but given his reaction to being told he looks gay is to scream "NO I'M NOT!" and ignore anything else, it's unlikely he'll ever learn.

== Moral basis on sex and double standards ==
[[Image:DatingEducation.jpg|thumb|250px|69ing? Intercourse? ''Really''? In a ''children's'' comic? Because they should know all about this stuff.]]
{{quote|You have heard that it was said by them of old time, You shall not commit adultery: but I say to you, that whosoever looks on a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart.|Matthew 5:27-28}}

Sex as viewed through Chris's eyes is dictated by the Bible. Chris is very strict on keeping to the word of God when homosexuality is the topic, vehemently stating that he ''hates'' [[homos]], but not hesitating to view lesbian porn and approve of it [[Mass Debating|masturbatorily]].<ref>[[CWC's Second Message]]</ref> This logic probably stems from an episode of ''[[Family Guy]]'' where one of Meg's friends states that lesbianism is a choice, while male homosexuality isn't. This comment was intended as a joke, but like most satire, it flew right over Chris's head. Another violation of his Christian morals is the fact that he plans on losing his virginity on the [[Third date|third or fourth date]] with his true [[sweetheart]] (read: first girl who will last three dates with Chris). Well, guess that the whole “no sex till marriage thing” doesn’t matter that much now, does it?

The Bible also frowns upon [[Nudes|pornographers]], of which he is guilty and holds no visible [[remorse]]. These double standards cause many trolls to despise him, seeing as he selectively chooses what to dogmatize and what is OK.

Despite people pointing out these contradictions, even quoting passages of the Bible, he will deny it. This is partially because he goes to [[Wesley Memorial|a very liberal church]], and any question about premarital sex is interpreted quite liberally by [[Rocky]].{{cite}} When Chris asks Rocky about passages quoted to him by [[troll]]s, she only fuels his cafeteria Christianity by saying things like sex before marriage is okay as long as the couple is in love, which is wrong by Christian doctrine.<ref>[[Mumble 8]]</ref> Chris picks and chooses what parts of Christian doctrine suit his own prejudices, and disregards the ones that would interfere with his [[Love Quest]].

Chris seems to consider a female sexual partner as a rubber stamp over his (alleged) sexual orientation. Flying in the face of any moral system he ever held, he announced his desire to upload on the Internet a video of his first full sexual intercourse.<ref>[[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence#The Introduction Image Space is NOT Ad Space (CCS)]]</ref> After further prodding, he added that he would simply hide the camera, record the event without her consent and blur her face before making the video public,<ref>[[Mailbag 31#In which Chris crosses yet another line]]</ref> showing that, for Chris, [[Women's rights|a woman is just a living, sentient sex-toy]], existing only to validate him as a heterosexual.

==Chris in the act==
[[Image:JULAY-small.gif|frame|right|Christian professing his love for "[[Julie]]".]]
Leaked tapes of Chris's audio sex with [[Julie]], and the infamous [[sex tape]] with [[Kimmi]] shed light on Chris as he acts out on his fantasies. In particular, the sex tape shows how Chris assumes ''female'' positions, notably riding on top of Kimmi in a scene straight out of a porno. It seems that Chris's entirety of knowledge about sexual relationships stems from ignoring the men in pornography (due to fear of becoming a [[homo]]).

However, it should be noted that in most of Chris's Rule 34 drawings the characters do tend to assume positions which are fitting for their gender, including Chris.<ref>For examples, see the [[Sonichu 8#The uncensored scenes|uncensored panels]] from Sonichu 8, [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack]], [[CWCRockin4Way.jpg]], the [[Giant Penis Comic]] and [[Jackie E-mails 14]].</ref> It might be that Chris adopts female positions not so much due to ignorance regarding sex, but more because of [[Tomgirl pictures|his identification with the opposite gender]].

Chris's view of cunnilingus, put on horrific display in [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV]], involves slobbering all over a woman's vagina. Despite all his knowledge of porn, he fails to see how cunnilingus is more than just slobbering, but proper tongue action to stimulate the clitoris.

In the leaked media, Chris displays that he may have some issues with delayed orgasm. This can either be physiological (bent [[duck]], [[Obesity|fat ass]], lack of endurance) or psychological (performance anxiety, high expectations, intrusive [[homos|homoerotic]] thoughts, subconscious guilt about sex) in nature.

==Staying straight==
''See [[Homos#Fear of being a homo|Fear of being a homo]]''

==Is Chris asexual?==
Some autistics simply do not understand sexual attraction (for example, high-functioning autistic and [[Wikipedia:Hugbox|hugbox]] inventor Temple Grandin chooses to be celibate because she admits that she really does not understand sexual attraction and that she lacks the ability, as a consequence of her autism, to engage in a sexual relationship). This could explain some of Chris's views regarding sex and romance; he genuinely cannot understand the appeal of most sexual activity, aside from the fact he's seen people in the media do it and that he thinks that sex is a rite of passage to becoming a big boy.

After he was introduced to the term by his Mailbag correspondents, Chris took to interpreting and using "asexual" as an insult. In his [[CWCipedia]] page on [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia Page)|The Wallflower]], he referred to her as a "Got-Dang Asexual Woman!". He also became very offended when [[Jackie]] implied that he liked [[video games]] more than women, ranting that she should not label him as asexual (and misses her point completely).<ref name="Jackie E-mails 2" />

==Pedophilia==
{{main|Pedofork}}

==Bestiality==
{{quote|I can imagine myself doing it with a [[Patti-chan|collie]] at least. you know, like Lassie.|Chris in [[IRC (27 December 2008)]]}}
[[File:PattiLuv.jpg|thumb|[[Patti-chan|Run Patti!]]]]
[[File:Super-mode.jpg|thumb|left|90px|Chris, sporting a [[ECV 00002‎|homemade fursuit]].]]

In his [[Chris-chan Discusses...‎|interview with ScrewAttackEurope]], Chris says he's against bestiality, then hoists himself by his own petard by claiming that Sonichu & co. are not "half-humans" but "all-animals" with human form. Technically, this isn't bestiality, as they're animals having sex with each other, not humans having sex with animals.

Despite his statements against bestiality, Chris stated that he would be willing to have sex with a female dog (because he's not a homo) for [[PandaHalo]] and specified that he'd prefer a Collie.<ref>http://sonichu.com/cwcki/IRC_(27_December_2008)</ref>

Chris also suggested that Brian from ''[[Family Guy]]'' be paired up with "any sexy breed" of dog.<ref>[http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Family_Guy#Story_of_the_CWC_Episode_for_.22Family_Guy.22 Family Guy Article on the CWCipedia]</ref>

In [[The Red-Maned Deer]], Chris recites a poem he wrote about having sex with a deer, but at the end of it states, "This was, in fact, NOT an act of bestiality. For you see, the Red-Maned Deer I have been communicating with and tracking, is really...my lo-my womanly sweetheart, named [[Jacklyn Romy]]."<ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLNUncC6Nm8&list=UUpZbAoE-X3DdRo0jxIQsMaw&index=6&feature=plpp_video</ref>

===Is Chris a furry?===
Whether or not Chris can actually be considered a furry is still debated.<ref>From [[Sarah May Skype Logs#Chris tries to leave|the Sarah May Skype Logs]]: [7:17:25] '''Sarah May''': Did you feel sexually aroused when you drew them? [7:17:34] '''Christopher C.W.C.''': a bit.</ref> There are some things that points in that direction. [[Chris-chan Sonichu]] is in many ways similar to a fursona. Chris has also used the character while cybering with [[Julie]].<ref name="Cums cat" /> Finally, in the [[Giant Penis Comic]], Chris and [[Ivy]] both morph into fursonas during the act of sex. However, it has been confirmed by [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] that Chris has prejudice against furries, not because of who they are, but because many furries tend to be [[homos]].<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Racism and homophobia]]</ref>
{{-}}

==Prostitution==
{{quote|"In my sarch [''sic''] on [[Wikipedia:Craigslist|Craigslist]], the ONLY women who left a phone number on their Ad were under "Adult Services", which they would have wanted money. I tried calling one, learned she wanted a hundred, then in the middle of telling my story about [[Jack]] and my [[PSN]] account recovery with a Sex video, she hung up on me. :("|Chris, wasting a prostitute's time{{cite}}}}

Given how badly Chris seems to want to lose his [[virgin]]ity, many observers have wondered why he hasn't long since spent some of his [[monthly tugboat]] on a prostitute. [[Mumble 4]], from [[February 2009]], answered that question for a while. There, Chris explained that paying for sex would render the act "meaningless," and he was afraid of contracting a sexually transmitted disease.

Needs must as the devil drives, though. While being blackmailed by [[Jack Thaddeus]] in the summer of [[2009]], Chris attempted to solicit the services of a Craigslist prostitute to fuck on camera so he could recover his hacked [[PlayStation Network]] accounts. After describing his personal problems to the prostitute, she hung up on him. Chris was apparently trying to get free sex from the hooker with long, rambling stories about his horrible life to try and gain sympathy. He was genuinely shocked when she didn't offer to fuck him out of pity, unaware that prostitutes, by definition, only have sex with men for money.

Previously, in [[March 2009]], [[Brian Bash]] had sent a trio of prostitutes to [[14 Branchland Court|Chris's house]] so he would no longer be a virgin with rage. [[Hooker incident|Hilarity ensued]].

By the beginning of [[2010]], Chris's views on prostitution had further softened. According to his [[Vivian Gee E-mails 2|conversations with Vivian Gee]], around the turn of the year he was attempting to save $100 out of his monthly budget to buy himself a whore for his 28th [[birthday]]. This, presumably, was the "hundred dollars for a damn hooker" he referred to when [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|begging the Wallflower for sex]] on YouTube in [[March 2010]].

Between [[April 2010|April]] and [[July 2010]], under the name of [[Carlos Chantor]], Chris tried to offer himself up as a male escort. He described himself as "[[Chris and reality|Experienced for Her Pleasure]]", with an [[obesity|average]] body type.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 6]]</ref>

Later, under the guise of his troll persona [[JenkinsJinkies]], Chris attempted to acquire the contact details of the hookers Brian Bash had previously hired. While it is possible that Chris merely wished to make his disguise more convincing by implying that 14 year old Jenkins wished to hire prostitutes, it seems far more likely that Chris actually was considering hiring Brian's girls.

==Incest==
{{incomplete}}

[[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|Crystal]], his imaginary twin sister, appeared as a "girlfriend" card he made for ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh]]'', and her attractiveness and desirability are brought up several times in the [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'']] comics well after being established as Chris's twin. Chris has shown complete ignorance in matters incestuous before; his [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] are all related, but many of them are paired off with one-another, banging and some even [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Children|having kids]]. Being raised without siblings present, he has no experience with filial relationships, and [[autism]] ensures he has no inkling of what it entails. He didn't even know the word, let alone the concept, of "incest" until someone mentioned and explained it to him.<ref>[[Mumble 1]]</ref> He has trouble contemplating why incest is wrong when, to him, [[china]] is china. Only brother-brother incest is wrong because it is [[homosexual]] in nature. He doesn't understand why sister-sister incest would be bad, because it involves [[Gaybian|girl-on-girl]].

==Rape==

{{Protip|Despite your worst fears, Chris won't ever manage to rape anybody, so stop saying that.}}

Chris has a poor understanding of the effects of rape, starting from the [[Megan]] saga all the way to [[PandaHalo]]. Misguided trolls claim that Chris will one day try to rape someone due to his stalker tendencies. Due to his warped view of romance and [[Power|inability to pin someone down long enough]] to commit the act, it is highly unlikely that Chris will ever rape anyone.

Despite this reassurance, it's no less discomforting to know that despite whatever personal feelings he has on the act, he seems to have trouble understanding what non-consensual contact is. As evidenced in [[iPods Down and Listen Up]], he doesn't seem to realize that his improvised lyrics detail a sexual act that would almost certainly be construed by others as rape- the idea of letting his "prey" wear herself out before moving on her may not have registered to Chris as sounding wrong.

==See also==
*[[Homos]]
*[[Women's rights]]
*[[Semen]]
*[[Mass debating]]
*[[Duck]]
*[[Pickle]]
*[[Chris and his ego]]
*[[Chris Sex Logs]]

== Sources ==
<references/>

{{Chris and}}

User talk:Cleftpalete

2012-02-28T16:31:24Z

Old meme: word of warning

My Little Pony

2012-02-28T16:29:39Z

Old meme: IRRELEVANT.

{{taxpayermoney}}

[[Image:Chris_Chan_Pony.png|thumb|Chris Chan: The original brony]]
'''My Little Pony''' (MLP) is a line of [[toys]] and animated programs intended for girls aged 4-8. While some would believe his interest in the show comes from a [[wikipedia:My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic|recent revival of the show]] that became unusually popular with the adult male crowd, Chris was actually introduced to the toy by [[Megan]] in 2007.

==Chris and ponies==
[[File:Poorcamo.jpg|thumb|left|One of Chris's ponies, as seen in his [[bedroom]].]]

The homemade ponies vary between being blatant ripoffs of [[anime]] characters, most notably the titular character from ''[[wikipedia:Naruto|Naruto]]'' and [[Wikipedia:Edward Elric|Edward Elric]] from ''[[Wikipedia:Fullmetal Alchemist|Fullmetal Alchemist]]'', and horrible [[Wikipedia:Mary Sue|Mary Sues]] such as [[Cherokee|Cheroki-Chan]], who is clearly based on the [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|comic-book version of Chris]] or possibly the [[Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan|ancestor character]], and Crystal, [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|whose origin is obvious]].

In his infamous [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|FUTURE MESSAGE]], Chris first made his love of My Little Pony known when he recommended to all his viewers that they buy MLP figures of their favorite color to stroke and rub against their cheek, claiming that it was "very therapeutic" and that one could talk to the ponies and pretend that they were girls they wanted to ask out, to help them build confidence. At the time, this was viewed as a very revealing aspect of Chris's life, earning him the mockery of [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] and [[4chan]] yet again. Neither of the two parties realized, of course, that years later, they would become fans themselves.

In [[CWC Update 18 March 2009 More Updated|Captain's Log, Stardate March 18th, 2009]], you can see his My Little Ponys hanging from his ceiling.

One of the latest known references to MLP made by Chris was on the [[Tomboys and Tomgirls of Virginia]] forum, where Chris used a picture of Applejack from the more recent ''[[wikipedia:My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic|My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic]]'' animated series as his avatar, although his screen name was modeled after the name of another major character in the series- [[Rainbow|Rainbow Dash]].

[[Image:ponyboy.jpg|thumb|Applejack as Chris's avatar on [[Tomboys and Tomgirls of Virginia]].]]
In a [[Calling Out "Tito" - Don|subsequent video]] following these events, he referred to his [[Sonichu|pet series]] as being a ''"TV-Y7 rated... friendship socializing, promoting type of series"'', which echoes the central themes of ''Friendship is Magic'', meaning the series could be considered the type of show he looks up to, and wants his own [[Chris and the industry|animated series]] to be like. [[Chris and writing|It will probably never happen]], but it does give insight on how even after claiming to have given them up on ''My Little Pony'' a long time ago, it appears he still retains interest in them.

A ''Friendship is Magic'' Rainbow Dash toy can be sighted in the background of "[[Correction_of_EX_relationship_status|Correction of EX relationship status]]" and a My Little Pony sticker can be seen on Chris's [[3DS]] in the [[Wristwatch-SwissWatch for Jeremy "Thorg"|Wristwatch-SwissWatch]] video.

Chris also has a ''Friendship is Magic'' play list on his [[YouTube]] account that includes all the episodes, confirming once and for all his love for a children's show.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL20EBD1B6E8BB9E6F Chris's ''My Little Pony - Friendship is Magic'' playlist on YouTube]</ref> Considering [[Ghostbusters|his]] [[Transformers|previous]] [[Pokemon|track]] [[The Adventures of the American Rabbit|record]], it's not exactly surprising.

{{-}}

==Cutie mark==

In the new videos released on [[February_2012|Feb 25th]], Chris was spotted showing off a drawing on his left thigh which he calls his "cutie mark". It is the combination of the male and female symbol. It does not seem to be a real tattoo, but instead is drawn on.

In [[My Little Pony]], a cutie mark is a symbol showing off a pony's special talent and interest. Chris's special talent, it seems, is being a [[tomgirl]].

==In the comics==
[[File:Ponywed.jpg|thumb|Show this to any father with a young daughter and he'd probably think she made it. Purposely bad.]]

Like any eight-year-old girl with the hopes of marrying a blue prince in a fairytale wedding with her BFF pony by her side, [[Wedding_Comic|Sonichu Special 2]] reveals to its unfortunate readers that Chris might have harbored similar thoughts, as his ideal wedding also features a My Little Pony.

After having received a blessing from the best [wo]man [[Sarah Hammer]], the recently united Chris and [[Ivy]] leave the church where the wedding was held in a carriage pulled by what many trolls speculate to be a badly-drawn [[Wikipedia:List_of_My_Little_Pony_characters#Rainbow_Dash|Rainbow Dash]], which is harnessed to the carriage with what appears to be the Boulder Badge from [[Pokémon]].

{{-}}

==Gallery==
<center>
{| class="wikitable collapsible" width="600"
! colspan="4"|The Gallery of My Little Pony Straightness
|-
!Chris' creation
!Original
![[Card games|TCG card]]
!Notes
|-
|[[File:03-CWC Cheroki-Chan1.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Cheroki-Chan
|[[File:Chero.jpg|frameless|center|120px|text-bottom]] Pony in Seaspray Pose
|[[File:01-Cheroki-Chan_Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]][[File:02-Cheroki-Chan Card2.jpg|120px|center|text-bottom]]
|Chris's depiction of himself as a pony...or rather, a horse- [[Chris and his Ego|too awesome to be a common pony]]. Just as Chris, Cheroki-Chan has a few [[Autism|quirks]], likes to [[Chris and art|draw and color]], but above all, he is [[Rape|noble and honorable]]. Cheroki-Chan [[Semen|"creams"]] of finding a [[sweetheart]] for himself, yet is having problems, mainly from being rejected once by that [[Chris and race|multi-green pony]], possibly [[Megan|camouflaged]].
|-
|[[File:07-CWC Camo-Flage.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Camo-Flage
|[[File:Camo.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]] Pony in [[Wikipedia:List_of_My_Little_Pony_characters#Rainbow_Dash|Rainbow Dash]] pose
|[[File:06-Camo-Flage Card.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]]
|Posible representation of [[Megan Schroeder]]. She [[Friend Zone|rejected]] Cheroki-Chan's advances, and she is Jonhlamence's little sister.<ref>[[:File:12-Johnlamence Card.jpg]]</ref>
|-
|[[File:49-CWC Mimmbo Bo Boruto.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Mimmbo Bo Boruto
|[[File:Mimmbo.jpg|frameless|center|120px|text-bottom]] Pony in [[Wikipedia:List_of_My_Little_Pony_characters#Rainbow_Dash|Rainbow Dash]] pose
|[[File:48-Mimmbo Bo Boruto Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|Custom pony based on and made for [[Daniel Mimms]]. ''[[Wikipedia:Naruto|Naruto]]'' is another inspiration.
|-
|[[File:46-CWC Squall Metal Alchamest.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] [[Wikipedia:Full Metal Alchemist|Squall Metal Alchamest]]
|[[File:Squall.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Pony in [[Wikipedia:List_of_My_Little_Pony_characters#Rainbow_Dash|Rainbow Dash]] pose
|[[File:45-Squall Metal Alchemest Card.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]]
|An inter-dimensional pony with [[Barbara|motherly]] issues. Based on [[Wikipedia:Edward Elric|Edward Elric]] from ''[[Wikipedia:Fullmetal Alchemist|Fullmetal Alchemist]],'' though part of the name may come from Squall Leonhart of Final Fantasy 8.
|-
|[[File:10-CWC Crystal.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Crystal
|[[File:Crys.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]] Pony Cutie Keen Bean
|[[File:09-Crystal Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|Commemorative pony of [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]], Chris's future daughter.
|-
|[[File:13-CWC Johnlamence.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Jonhlamence's cyberwarrior
|[[File:Sala.jpg|frameless|center|120px|text-bottom]] Pony in Rarity Unicorn Pose
|[[File:12-Johnlamence Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|Camo-flage's older brother combined with the [[Pokémon]] [[Wikipedia:List of Pokémon (320–386)#Salamence|Salamence]].
|-
|[[File:18-CWC Ty Game2.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Ty Game
|[[File:ty_game.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]] Pony in Rainbow Swirl Pose
|[[File:16-Ty Game Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|[[Video games|Gamer]] Pony.
|-
|[[File:22-CWC Bee-Riana.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Bee Riana
|[[File:Bee reana (yellow with the antena.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Ponies Toola-Roola (left) and Meadowbrook (right)
|[[File:21-Bee-Riana Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|When he bought the two-Ponies-set, Chris took Toola-Roola's antennae and put them on Meadowbrook to create Bee-Riana. [[Chris and Sex|Toola-Roola hasn't been seen since]].
|-
|[[File:26-CWC Educait.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Educait
|[[File:Edu.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]] Pony in Sunny Daze Pose
|[[File:25-Educait Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|A nerdy Pony. It is of the [[Wallflower]] type.
|-
|[[File:30-CWC Honeysumerah.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Honeysumerah
|[[File:Honey.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]] Pony in Sweet Breeze Pose
|[[File:29-Honeysumerah Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|Based on a [[Britney Spears|shallow Pop Star]]. "Stickler for a tickler" comes from a throwaway ''[[Family Guy]]'' gag, from [[Wikipedia:When You Wish Upon a Weinstein|"When You Wish Upon a Weinstein"]].
|-
|[[File:33-CWC_Modest_Manna.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Modest Manna
|[[File:Modest.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Pony in Sweet Breeze Pose
|[[File:32-Modest Manna Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|[[Anna McLerran|Mormon]] pony.
|-
|[[File:36-CWC Linnhadey.JPG|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]] Linnhadey
|[[File:Lin.jpg|frameless|center|120px|text-bottom]] Pony in Beachberry Pose
|[[File:35-Linnhadey Card.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]]
|'[[Autism|Unique]] and [[McDonalds|Lovin' it]]' Pony.
|-
|[[File:43-CWC Federico.JPG|frameless|center|120px|text-bottom]] Federico
|[[File:Fede.jpg|frameless|center|120px|text-bottom]] Pony in Beachberry Pose
|[[File:42-Federico Card.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]]
|[[Spanish]] Pony. He is annoying because "chicos are chicos." From the rest of his description is impossible to find meaning, both English or Spanish wise.
|-
|[[File:39-CWC Buttonbeck.JPG|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]] [[Nudes|Butt]]onbeck
|[[File:Bottom beck.jpg|frameless|120px|center|text-bottom]] Pony in Diva Pose
|[[File:38-Buttonbeck Card.jpg|120px|frameless|center|text-bottom]]
|[[Rosechu|Generic soulless and flavorless]] Pony.
|}
</center>

==See also ==
*[[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE]]
*[[List of toys]]

==References==
<references />

==External links==
*[[Wikipedia:My Little Pony|My Little Pony]] at [[Wikipedia]]
*[http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F12XOB4B Chris's MLP collection photoset download]

[[Category:Hobbies]]
[[Category:Toys]]

User:Old meme/Sandbox 5

2012-02-22T11:15:21Z

Old meme:

fucking fix these articles:

*[[Michael Snyder]]
*[[The GAMe PLACe]]
*[[Manajerks]]
*[[Get-Tar Region]]
*[[Mal-Wart]]
*[[Charlottesville Fashion Square]]
*[[Duck]]
*[[Power Rangers]]
*[[Mecha-Jerkops]]
*[[Jerkops]]
*[[Kick the Autistic]]

do the stuff in the other sandboxes too

Mailbag 18 for time paradox shit.

--[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 03:15, 22 February 2012 (PST)

User:Old meme/Sandbox 4

2012-02-22T11:14:34Z

Old meme: need the space

User talk:Champthom

2012-02-21T15:59:30Z

Old meme:

Talk to me.

Be sure to check out the archives as well:

'''Archive:''' [[User:Champthom/Archive 1|1]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 2|2]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 3|3]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 4|4]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 5|5]]

==Champ tomas==

okay like i'll have all the subtitles backed up on my hd so far, did you have i have like 8gb of cwc shit on my computer? yeah i know right. so anywayyyy i have decided to credit ppl on both the caption titles (for example, "iamstraight by champthom") and the video descriptions for double the fun!!also if i can't upload the subtitles i can ask tito to. i should be fine though. [[User:Abejita Cortez|Abejita Cortez]] 19:09, 17 February 2011 (PST)

== PSN Tracker ==

I'm not sure if you're the right person to ask, but I recently got Chris to add me on the PSN.
How would I contribute to the PSN tracker? [[User:Dillon627|Dillon627]] 09:19, 22 February 2011 (PST)
*edit the psn tracker? i think anyone can edit it bro -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 10:42, 22 February 2011 (PST)
* http://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Template:PSNTracker&action=edit here you go -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 10:43, 22 February 2011 (PST)
Thanks. I'll try to start updating it when I can. [[User:Dillon627|Dillon627]] 12:12, 22 February 2011 (PST)

== I apologize ==

I apologize for doing something wrong while transcribing Kacey Call 8. I want you to know that I am currently still working on the transcript, but as you can imagine, it is not walk in the park... It's a little over 35 minutes long and I'm sure you know how hard it is to transcribe audio. I also want you to know that I will try to do better in the future. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 16:34, 4 March 2011 (PST)
*I do appreciate the effort, I do ask though you add [[:Template:Transcription|this template]] to pages that aren't completely transcribed. That way, people can pick up the slack so it's not all on you. I do appreciate your work and I hope you continue transcribing. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:51, 4 March 2011 (PST)
::Thanks for deleting the thinger-ma-bobber. Now that I look back at the edits, that should've been obvious..but I fail at computer stuff as it is so I'll blame it on that. :P --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 18:51, 6 March 2011 (PST)

== Re:Comic Categories ==

Sounds like a good idea.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 18:02, 4 March 2011 (PST)

== Always here ==

Wallflower policy here: http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Talk:The_Wallflower#Stating_CWCki_Policy

I have never left, friend. I merely got a new job that causes me to work long hours. Once my time becomes free-er and my heart level recovers from Mumble translations, I shall return full-time. I still check here once a day or more.

Want a pizza roll? Message me if you want a pizza roll. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 19:06, 7 March 2011 (PST)

:Edit: I'll post it in the right place later tonight. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 19:17, 7 March 2011 (PST)
:*Just did it dude, thanks for the help. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:17, 7 March 2011 (PST)

==Anything I can do at the moment?==

I've watched the CWCki for a while now and now that I've joined, I'd like to know if there is anything specific I can help with. Thanks. --[[user:Ctahu|Ctahu]] [[User_talk:Ctahu|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Ctahu|c)]] 17:50, 19 April 2011 (EST)

==Can do==
Sorry I took so long to reply, it was 3AM here when you left the message and I just got it. I'll keep IRC open for whenever you're available. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 07:10, 23 April 2011 (PDT)

== Love ==

Champ,

Just when everyone- EVERYONE- thought Chris had shriveled up, dried out like a prune and flat out fucking died- you [[Tomgirl_Pictures|delivered]]. Technically it was Freecell who uploaded them and obviously some [[troll|beautiful, honest woman]] persuaded him to do this, but in my reality Champthom knows all, sees all... so yeah.

Holy shit. Honestly, if we get nothing else for 2011...

... I want you bad.

--[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 08:17, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

== Possible new article ==

I noticed after I signed up a couple weeks ago that the articles on the retconned Asperchu characters were an absolute clusterfuck, so I've been experimenting in my [[User:Old meme/Sandbox|sandbox]] for a while now on merging the [[Chaotic Combo (Asperchu)]], [[Basement Rosechus]] and [[Mitch Sonichu]] pages. I added some new images and had Freecell look at it and make his own additions, and he thinks it's ready for the main namespace. Obviously though, that will involve moving pages and fixing broken redirects, and being the boss around here you get the final say. When I was working on this, the title I had in mind was "Asperchu parodies", but that's just my suggestion. Have a look at it and tell me what you think. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:19, 17 May 2011 (PDT)
*I've seen it, it's pretty good, but not sure about the name, as they're "parodies" in the same way Sonichu is a "parody" (which is, not really). Come up with a better name and we might be able to do something. Perhaps if you post on the portal [[CWCki:General|here]] you could get some feedback. Nice work though, keep it up.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:25, 17 May 2011 (PDT)
*Thanks. I'll do that now. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:32, 20 May 2011 (PDT)
*Champthom ma boi, that message has been on the community portal for four days and I don't think anyone has noticed it. Do you want to come up with an article name yourself? Only I want to get this page up so I can start using my sandbox for other purposes. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:16, 24 May 2011 (PDT)
*Thanks again. Tell me when you have a title for the page. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:15, 27 May 2011 (PDT)

Yo Champ! It's been nearly a month now. Have you got a title for me yet? I spent quite a while on that article and I want to see it up soon. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 09:33, 14 June 2011 (PDT)
*Holy crap, thanks for reminding me dude. Alec's suggestion is kinda lame, too wordy - "Alternate interpretations of Sonichu characters" (I think he might have misunderstood me), I think "Asperchu parodies" might work. Man, I am awful at procrastination, lol. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:05, 14 June 2011 (PDT)
*It's up now, and looking good. Thanks for sorting everything out Champ. Now to get to work on another merged page about Chris's shitty transformers. This will take a while. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:07, 17 June 2011 (PDT)
*Oh, and while I'm here, a couple of weeks ago I decided to rewrite the [[Sonichu (game)]] page. I only just realised after looking back on it that I subconsciously created another merged page while doing so. I condensed [[Pokémon: Lightning Version]], [[Sonichu Adventure]] and [[Sonichu Advance]] into that one page. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing, but take a look at it and fix it as you see fit. I didn't even know until now that I did that. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:17, 17 June 2011 (PDT)

==RE:==
Don't worry about it. I'm just sorry I wasn't online to see it sooner. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 08:31, 26 May 2011 (PDT)

Glad I was able to help since I missed the show. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:12, 26 May 2011 (PDT)

== I suck donkey balls ==
I was trying to upload a new version of [[:File:Prowl prower.jpg|this file]] and make it into [[:File:File-Prowl prower.jpg|this file]] so I could use it in an article. Somewhere down the line, I fucked up. The first one now displays the old image in file mode and the new image as a thumb on article pages, while the new one has a fucked up name that I think was automatically assigned when I tried to upload a new version of the other one. Please fix this for me? kthnx. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 14:50, 21 June 2011 (PDT)

== Check out this shit ==
I feel it's getting to the point where I'm just spamming with the ammount of times I keep asking you to look at a new article in my sandbox. Regardless, you said you wanted me to have a look at maybe rewriting the templates for the sagas and the like. I plan on doing so, along with a few other templates while I'm at it, but I am on my third sandbox already and I think making a fourth would be pushing it at this point. Even if I wasn't though, I think now would be a good time to show them to you because I am just about done. I'm awaiting Freecell's revisions for some of them, but he's taking a while and I'm sure whatever problems he would find, you would also. Anyway, here's [[User:Old meme/Sandbox|the first]]. It's a reworking of the [[Samurai Pizza Bots]] page and it merges [[Prower]] and [[Armoraxe]] into it as well, so we have a page on the entire team instead of a few pages on some of them. The [[User:Old meme/Sandbox 2|second one]] is a rewrite of the [[Decepti-Clone]] article, which has a bad name anyway because Decepti-Clone is the name for evil robots in general, but the page is about S.A.V.s. In my revision, I merged the original page with [[Jerkop Punislav]] and [[Crackder]] so it's actually about Decepti-Clones in general rather than just one type. I would suggest the name of the actual title for this page be [[Decepti-Clones]] plural. Just sayin'. [[User:Old meme/Sandbox 3|Sandbox 3]] is just a rewrite of [[Sarah Hammer]], but I sandboxed it instead of just rewriting the article as normal because I also merged [[Queen of the Cherokian Clan]] into it, because she is literally a one panel character with no more importance at all. Anyway, I'm submitting all of these for approval, and I promise you that after this and the [[Sonichu (game)]] mergings are over, I'll stop merging so much shit and creating more work for you for a while. I'll take a break and work on those templates instead. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:21, 24 June 2011 (PDT)
*Dude, I have bad news for you - I am the world's worst procrastinator. I put off EVERYTHING until the last minute, so if I don't reply to your message right away, that's probably because I'm on the Internet dicking around. I also work at night and sleep during the day most of the week, so on those days I maybe get to check the CWCki for 10, 15 minutes and that's mostly to see if anyone has been vandalizing. Anyways, your articles - your first one, on the Samurai Pizza Bots is pretty alright. My only complaint is the tone, it's rather informal. Now mind you, I don't mind that tone sometimes and I think some articles get away with it but I know that some people prefer a more formal tone and I believe their argument has merit. I have the next few days off, I'll see what I can do to critque your article and give you some ways to improve it. Your Decepti-Clones article seems better than the one we have, but I'll give it another look, it has a lot of details from the comic that I need to refresh to see the context (the later comics I mostly skimmed because Chris stopped giving a shit at that point). I really need to wait on seeing the Sarah Hammer article, that is yours versus the one we have as I don't want to get the two confused. Like I said, I can critque your articles for you. You don't have to work on those templates or the saga stuff if you don't want to, I usually say that when people ask "Why don't we have x?" I say "Because you haven't made it yet!" You're obviously a very dedicated wiki editor which I like and I expect great things from you, just keep up the good work and bear with me.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:42, 24 June 2011 (PDT)
**I appreciate it Champ. I'm only on here a few days a week anyway, I figure while I am I may as well fix things up. No need to rush anything here, I can wait. There are plenty of other articles I could be working on that don't require the sandbox. Plus Freecell still needs to make his edits before this is moved to the main namespace. I'll take the formality thing into consideration and see if I can make the article a bit more serious when I do the spellchecking. And honestly, I do want to give the templates an overhaul. Some of them are laughably outdated compared to some of the articles using them. I think Dethchemist was actually working on some templates too, but I don't know if he still is or not. Either way, leave me a message on my talk page when you get around to reading the stuff, and I'll make the appropriate corrections. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 09:22, 24 June 2011 (PDT)
**Made some updates. Tell me what you think. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:56, 25 June 2011 (PDT)

==k==
Trying to do, but whenever I make an account it refuses the username/password combination and says I have no method of recovering it. I'll let it sit for a while and try again. Alternatively, I'll be in IRC if that's easier for you. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 09:16, 14 July 2011 (PDT)

== Champthom my homie ==
Wha's cracking y'all? I thought I'd drop by and remind you like always to look over my sandbox pages, already linked to above, because you said you would but then you did something else and forgot them. Not sayin' I blame y'all, but I'm here to remind you anyway, because you need reminding. They're merged pages for the transformers articles and one on Sarah Hammer fyi. Alright, that's it for now. I got things to do an' shit. Talk later, kay? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 01:29, 15 July 2011 (PDT)

You know, if you don't have the time or don't want to do it, I could always add the new pages and create the redirects myself? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 03:53, 26 July 2011 (PDT)
*[[THAT IS MY HOUSE|I'M WORKIN' ON IT!]]. Seriously, I'll give it a look tonight or tomorrow.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:08, 26 July 2011 (PDT)
**Well, you said you would, so I can only assume you did. Was the page okay? Just give me a yes or no answer, and if it's a yes, I promise I'll do all the work and sort it out myself. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:49, 29 July 2011 (PDT)
:::*Here's what I say - just make the changes, if people don't like it they can change it back. RPOBLEM OSLVED.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:51, 29 July 2011 (PDT)
::::*KAY MAN. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:52, 29 July 2011 (PDT)

==New members==
I figured I'd let you know that a lot of people from /cwc/ have it in their head that the best course of action right now is to raid the CWCki in the name of the tomgirls. We're working on a similar plan right now but it needs to be taken one step at a time, not jumped into. So I'd keep an eye on any new members, just in case. It's possible they'll do something stupid. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 12:28, 22 July 2011 (PDT)
*Well main page templates have all been protected for the next week, that's usually what they target first. It's possible that new people are joining because there's new content, but I have considered the possibility of the attack, hence the protection. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:17, 22 July 2011 (PDT)

==Templates==
<nowiki>Yo. I've just been using {{subst:welcome}} instead of {{welcome}}. I'll switch to {{welcome}} if you want.</nowiki> --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 22:19, 22 July 2011 (PDT)

==Page Format==
I've done a couple page cleanups over the last few days, and I got to thinking about the common nit-picks I have. There's good info in the Help pages on how to format dates, when to pipe, etc., but there's no real place to go to see a model 'page layout.' I started a [[User:Dude/Guide_to_Style|formatting guide]] (improperly labeled 'style' guide, at the moment) as a subpage of my user page. Take a look, and feel free to use it as the nucleus for a new help page. --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 23:25, 24 July 2011 (PDT)
*Not bad, it's definitely something we could use. I would suggest looking up how Wikipedia does things, as that tends to be the standard for wikis (for instance, standard for pics are right aligned when possible). Pretty much I'd recommend fleshing it out with stuff from Wikipedia's article layout guide (remember, it's Creative Commons so you can pretty much copy paste it, ideally source it as well) and obviously adapt it to the CWCki's needs.

:To be honest, I came up with the "Sauces" thing since that's how most people who frequent this site talk - they'll say "sauce plz" HOWEVER if you and other people think it should be "References", I'm cool with that.

:Keep up the good work man.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:50, 25 July 2011 (PDT)

::HA! I thought if anybody would hate the ''sauces'' it would be you, man ;-) It doesn't really matter to me, though I prefer Refs. --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 18:51, 25 July 2011 (PDT)

==Just got your message==
I've been unwell for the past few days and still am. I'll leave IRC open if you're still wanting to talk, but I'm mostly going to be away from my computer so I may not be able to get back to you for a few hours. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 13:48, 27 July 2011 (PDT)

==I'm sorry to neg you..==
But can you please edit [[Template:Da Update|Da Update]] to include Liquid closing his YouTube account? I don't have permission to edit that template and I think this item is newsworthy, plus it might lead to Chris proclaiming victory on YouTube or something like that after seeing that his old foe's YouTube account is gone. -- [[User:NegaCWC]]
*I agree that it's newsworthy, though it's unlikely Chris gives enough of a fuck anymore. Liquid got what he wanted, Chris lost and moved on. It sounds like you're trying to use the CWCki to troll Chris though. There's a stigma against that, non? [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 22:45, 27 July 2011 (PDT)
**Yeah I know that the CWCki shouldn't be used as a trolling tool, I'm asking for it to be put on Da Update because I think it needs to be there regardless of Chris's possible reacion, even if we found out that Chris is dead by now I think it should be there. Sorry that I didn't sign my previous edit BTW. --[[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 00:25, 28 July 2011 (PDT)
::*I'm sorry but Da update is strictly for Chris related updates. Unless Chris manages to react to the account closing, it definitely has no place in da update. Besides, it leads to a slippery slope - one could argue then that we include any update any past troll of Chris does on their YouTube accounts and that would be silly. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:00, 28 July 2011 (PDT)
:::*I don't really have an opinion either way, but I don't know if it would necessarily lead to stalking all Chris related youtube accounts. Liquid is a bit more important than other troll youtube accounts because that saga happened primarily via youtube. It might be a milestone we'd want to make note of. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 06:03, 28 July 2011 (PDT)
::::*But, was there an update when the Asperpedia was shut down? If so, then editing Da Update to include the closing of Liquid's account wouldn't be totally unprecedented. If not, then I agree, it's a slippery slope. [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 06:50, 28 July 2011 (PDT)
:::::*Remember though people, da update is essentially about Chris. People check it out to see what Chris is up to. Da update really shouldn't be what other trolls are up to, as people who are curious about the trolls themselves usually manage to find out about them themselves. I have no problem with this information being incorporated into the [[Liquid Chris]] page if it hasn't already, as obviously it's relevant. However, it's not da update worthy because it's not about Chris. While it won't necessarily lead to stalking other trolls, it will set a precedent for it. People will say "Oh, [[Vivian]] has started a side project, let's include that in the update" or "[[Jack Thaddeus]] posted something on some Internet forum, let's include that in da update." I'm careful when it comes to establishing precedents, which is why including Liquid's account closing would set a bad one.
::::::As I see it, people who want this in da update 1) want to troll Chris for it or 2) feel that we need to update da update because it's been too long. As many people will back me up on this, the CWCki isn't a way to troll Chris, that's to protect our asses if shit ever goes down. Even if we are to update it to troll Chris, I very, very, VERY much doubt he would care and I have sufficient knowledge of Chris to know this. Chris will probably have no clue who "Liquid Chris" is, and even if he realizes it's the "impostor" he'll just remind himself how he won the [[Singstar Challenge]] (at least, HE believes he did) and is therefore the TRUE and HONEST Christian Chandler, or at least the Christian Weston Chandler who was born Christopher. Second point, I don't think there's anything wrong with not updating da update. If nothing happens with Chris, so be it. Da update reflects what da update is and if there is no update, well, [[Chris Calls Clyde Out|tough cookies]]. Da update should not be cheapen by updating it for the sake of updating it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:21, 28 July 2011 (PDT)

==WHAT?!==
YOU MEAN YOU'VE [[Help:So, you've been banned...|BEEN ABLE TO BAN PEOPLE FOR GENERAL FAGGOTRY THIS WHOLE TIME]] AND YOU NEVER ONCE THOUGHT TO GET RID OF FAGGOTS LIKE ICONOCLAST?!

I've got to say Champ, I'm more than a little disapointed by this. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:52, 28 July 2011 (PDT)
*I don't ban people unless they've actually done something against the CWCki (i.e. vandalized it) or their presence is so disruptive to the CWCki that people are spending more resources trolling said person than editing the CWCki (like with 16BitAlex). "General faggotry" is more of an exception clause, because there's usually exceptions to the rules. I try to be fair and just with everyone when it comes to bannings, and I won't ban anyone who edits in good faith.
:Just chillax man.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:58, 28 July 2011 (PDT)
::But still, you missed so many great opportunities with this! The people we could have gotten rid of! The unnecessary drama we could have avoided! Alex was totally acceptable to ban! Yet you didn't do that until he requested it himself! You need to start being harsher with your punishments. Keep that pimp hand strong. Or at least give me a promotion so I can be harsh for you. I promise I won't go crazy and ban all the furfags. Or Clyde. Unless you want me to. Which you should seriously consider by the way. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:09, 28 July 2011 (PDT)

==T&T Page==

Hey, the protection on the T&T page is up. Could you revert the edits to the 22nd and lock it again? Just in case, it's best to keep the article static until this is all over. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 19:17, 29 July 2011 (PDT)

==Yo==
Hey, I saw you were on earlier and protected a page. If you're still online, jump on IRC real fast. Otherwise, I'll look for you another time. --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 21:02, 29 July 2011 (PDT)

==Chibbity Champthom==
I sent you a PM on PVCC but you're here more so hit me up homedog. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 07:28, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

==RE: Ivy's age==
I'm a little confused about Ivy's date of birth. Is 1992 the year in which the actual culprit behind Ivy was born or is it Ivy's year of birth according to what Chris was told? If it's only the former than I'm not sure it should be listed as the date of birth in her article. After all if I remember correctly you're the one who said that articles on trollsonas should always describe the events as Chris perceives them rather than explain what really happened (who was really behind every trollsona and so on). - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 11:13, 3 September 2011 (PDT)
*It's the birthday Ivy told me when I asked her when her birthday is. Take that as you will.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:02, 4 September 2011 (PDT)

== Standardising Template:PublicSauce ==

Champthom, can you rename [[Template:PublicSauce]] to "Template:PublicSource"? Now that the [[Template:Cite]] template has been changed to display [''citation needed''] instead of [''sauce needed''], shouldn't [''public sauce needed''] likewise be changed to read [''public source needed'']?

I'm going to go ahead and change the template to do just that, but I cannot rename the template. By renaming the template, it will further standardise naming conventions in the CWCki as well as be consistent with the template's output. Renaming shouldn't cause any problems regarding coding in other pages since no pages currently use this template. – [[User:BrianBash|BrianBash]] ([[User_talk:BrianBash|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/BrianBash|cont]]) 16:30, 3 September 2011 (PDT)
: I moved it, which should fix this. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:17, 3 September 2011 (PDT)

== Sonichu Animated ==
Have you tried protecting the variations of using a colon and semicolon and different possible capitalizations of all the different words? And don't forget abbreviations like Sonichu TAS and STAS. I would also like to remind you that it can just be shortened to Sonichu Animated or some variation thereof. You have a lot of work to do bro. Maybe you should put the Jerkops to work on this. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:12, 6 September 2011 (PDT)
*When I said comma, I did mean colon. So far, I've protected "Sonichu: The Animated Series" and "Sonichu:The Animated Series" in addition to "Sonichu The Animated Series." It's not a huge ordeal, if it comes up again I'll delete it, I just find it annoying that people see that they can't create the page with the right spelling, so they think they're clever by taking out the colon or something like that. Sonichu TAS is the only page that keeps getting resurrected time and again. But yeah, I'm not going to make a huge deal out of it, if it comes up I'll deal with it then than try and figure out every permutation someone could make for the page. I mean, could you totally see me like, making a zillion protections and someone figuring out one I didn't cover? That'd be embarrassing. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:32, 6 September 2011 (PDT)
::The ''recent changes'' page hasn't been moving *that* quickly; while it's retarded that it keeps being added, I think the deletion turn-around has been quick enough. And honestly, I think it's just retards that need to lurk moar, as opposed to any real effort at being a douche. --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 22:33, 6 September 2011 (PDT)
::EDIT: OK, I just saw the last one, and that was pretty douchey. --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 22:38, 6 September 2011 (PDT)

== Thanks ==

Thanks =) As a side note, can you give [[User:WelcomeBot]] bot status - I am not a good enough admin to do it myself according to [[Special:UserRights]] =( --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:46, 21 September 2011 (PDT)
:Oh yeah and I got a little bored and [[User:Anonymax/Style|drafted some style guidelines]]. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 22:30, 21 September 2011 (PDT)

== Nag nag nag nag ==

Make me an admin so I can lord over these spergs with an iron fist. --[[User:Dinglebear|Dinglebear]] 12:40, 22 September 2011 (PDT)

== Image naming ==

As of MediaWiki version 1.14 or something, you can now "rename" files by using the move feature on File: pages. Just a timesaving pro-tip for the future - though an improper name may not be the sole reason for having to delete a file, if it is - then you don't need to delete/reupload anymore. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:48, 27 September 2011 (PDT)
*Well fuck me in the ass and call me your sister, you're right. I was expecting it to be named something like "Rename" but apparently not. Yeah, totally saves time, this is totally why I made you an admin.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:15, 27 September 2011 (PDT)

== Bit of help... ==

Can you delete my account? Thank you. [[Kurtwodka|Kurtwodka]] 22:53, 04 October 2011 (PDT)

== Come back you durp ==

I had some BUSINESS to DISCUSS with you before you RUDELY left upon request. --[[User:Thorg|Thorg]] 23:54, 4 October 2011 (PDT)
*Also make me a Jerkop. --[[User:Thorg|Thorg]] 00:04, 5 October 2011 (PDT)
**No wait make me an admin. --[[User:Thorg|Thorg]] 00:08, 5 October 2011 (PDT)
::*No.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:20, 5 October 2011 (PDT)

== Re: WelcomeBot ==

WelcomeBot is already clever in many ways. Firstly it only welcomes users who have made at least one edit since registering their account. This is for various reasons, but one is because bombarding a new user with a welcome message within 60 minutes of them making their account isn't terribly cool.

WelcomeBot already ignores users who are blocked - so vandals usually get detected and banned pretty quickly around here and by the time WelcomeBot does another sweep, it's more than likely any vandals will have been banned.

The {{tl|Welcome}} template already has a parameter for specifying a user other the one making the edit to the user's talk page - I've now edited WelcomeBot to place my name instead of his for the "contact me on my userpage" link. WelcomeBot still signs the message, but the bot's userpage explains who the bot is, who controls him and why.

A demo of this action can be seen on [[User talk:WBTest2]] - which originally had one edit to their own userpage and I forced WelcomeBot to re-run - and you can see the difference in talk page linking. I can add to the welcome template or WelcomeBot's signature something about why a bot is welcoming them - but the userpage should already explain this. I think I covered most of your questions... --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 06:01, 8 October 2011 (PDT)
*Very good, thanks for answering them. Sounds like this is a good thing then, keep up the good work.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:50, 8 October 2011 (PDT)

==I was right about STAS==
[[File:Totally called it.png|300px]]

--[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:20, 14 October 2011 (PDT)
*Shine on, you crazy diamond.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:50, 14 October 2011 (PDT)
:*I will! Thank you father! --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:13, 14 October 2011 (PDT)

== PVCC CONSPIRACY !11!!ONE! ==
[[File:Champthom be trollin'.jpg]]

I never knew you were such a master troll Champ. I'm proud of you. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 12:19, 4 November 2011 (PDT)

== Getting hold of me ==

I'm alive on IRC from now and for about 6 more hours - you can get my attention quickest by leaving me a message on my talk page on the CWCki - as I'll get an alert within 5 minutes. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:32, 5 November 2011 (PDT)

==The Forum==

I still seem to be able to post and edit my own posts, but I don't have admin privileges anymore. If I'm not anywhere in the list, I may just have to make another account. I think people just have to make a post to get added to the list of members, though, so I gave that a go just now. Also, I haven't yet worked out the details, but I can tell intuitively that this is some kind of secret PVCC plot. I'm on to you. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 06:00, 20 November 2011 (PST)
*Figured it, out, you're back on though your post count resetted =/. BUT you have a custom title and you're back to admin so your e-peen is of equal or greater length now. Keep up the good work on the forum, God only knows I can only do so much.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:25, 20 November 2011 (PST)
**Cool. I'll do my best to keep at it. I might have to take a break from everything for exams in 3 weeks, but if so I'll let you know. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 06:32, 20 November 2011 (PST)

== SPOILER ==

'''SPOILER''': Freecell is signing comments. See also: [[Wikipedia:WP:CUSTOMSIG|that's the joke]] --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:58, 29 November 2011 (PST)
: "that's the joke"
:: - Anonymax on being simultaneously oblivious and self-aware
—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 12:47, 29 November 2011 (PST)
::I used the incorrect term. It should be "this is the joke" but then I'd look stupid. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 13:37, 29 November 2011 (PST)
*Ah man, you got me. Well played sir, well played. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:48, 29 November 2011 (PST)

== Moving pages ==

MediaWiki now allows you to delete a page on the fly when you try to move an article to a page that already exists. It gives you a warning but then the option to delete it automatically when you proceed with the move. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 08:40, 5 December 2011 (PST)
*Sweet, thanks for letting me know, that's a lifesaver.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:41, 5 December 2011 (PST)
*Odd though. I tried moving "Chris's Wikpedia page" to "Chris's Wikipedia profile" and it said that the talk page already existed and cannot be overridden. Is that only for regular pages then? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:44, 5 December 2011 (PST)
:It probably has issues if the main article doesn't exist before the talk page does. I'll test it. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 08:49, 5 December 2011 (PST)
:OK so basically if the talk page for the destination article title already exists, it won't move the associated talk page. It doesn't want to overwrite the talk page messages - so you have to make a judgement of either deleting the talk page and re-creating afresh, or doing a manual merge of the talk pages (preferable). --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 16:43, 5 December 2011 (PST)

== Freecell sent me ==

could you please unban my slimz account (you can leave fatz ban) on the forum. Freecell told me that i should talk to you.. Im not sure exactly what the ban was for specifically but i would be glad to rectify the situation. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 06:53, 19 December 2011 (PST)

: the 'over the top' persona is just that (welcome to the internet). However if you care that much about the opinions of a a bunch of people you have never met, and feel that your forum is in danger or somehow shamed by me, then im not sure what to tell you. but i think your atempt to censor the forum is trite and a bit 'over the top' in itself. I did not want to have to resort to getting around the ban thru an out of state system, thats why i asked nicely. I will continue to lurk until such time as you see fit to lift said ban. As far as sperging goes, where do you draw the line. Allowing the actions of others to dictate your response is no way to lead. In the real world thats called "prom queen"... think about it. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 08:47, 19 December 2011 (PST)

:*Even if I'm generous and assume that you thought that acting like a tough guy was a good idea (as opposed to just saying that for saving face), generally people who have a deep seated hatred for Chris are usually just as fucked up as Chris (see A-Log, PDK, etc.). I'm a nice guy, I don't like seeing people trolled. I stopped you from digging yourself deeper, you're damn glad that they didn't dox you and use life ruin tactics on you. /cwc/ is desperate for content, so they'll troll anyone they consider a "sperg" to get some kick out of it. You're asking for trouble when you make posts like you made. It encourages people to lurk the CWCki Forums just to find fresh meat to troll and it's only a matter of time people start actively trolling the forum. You're welcome to lurk,, I don't give a damn but no way am I unbanning you.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:59, 20 December 2011 (PST)

== I merged another five pages together hope you don't mind. ==
Go check recent changes for which ones. I'm not going through all those links. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 10:00, 20 December 2011 (PST)

== A message from the Great Successor ==

Herro, I have work all this week so I won't be online PM my time until about now. Leave me a message on IRC using MemoServ (as my main desktop keeps bluescreening). Canine said he doesn't know how to summon you. I left you a memo with my interwebs email address. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:25, 29 December 2011 (PST)
:Pro-tip: '''/msg memoserv send Anonymax''' '''''MSGHERE''''' --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:26, 29 December 2011 (PST)
:I got your message - good idea. I'll take a look sometime this week - after this stupid IT project for work is over. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 08:22, 1 January 2012 (PST)

== *stress sigh* ==
<s>Alright, this is a little embarrassing to admit, but I can't use either of those programs. IRC I never even heard of before I came to CWCki and it was never my thing. And AIM I tried to install and sign up for especially for this but it keeps fucking me around. Is there any kind of email address I can reach you through? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 09:48, 10 January 2012 (PST)</s>

Scratch that, I got into IRC. Unfamiliar programs just intimidate me I guess. You're not in it Champ, but I'll be waiting there for you if you're asleep or at work or whatever it is you Americans do at this time of day. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:09, 13 January 2012 (PST)

== okay then ==
nice talking. Call me when you've reached a decision. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:23, 13 January 2012 (PST)

== A little idea I have ==

One of us will go to chris's house, put a lolisa rosechu doll or sign in front of it, and film it to see how chris reacts.
It is what I would like to call: The Lolisa Experiment --An Anonymous Guru 8 February 2012 21:32 GMT
:If you want to do it, go on ahead. Also CWCki is not a forum. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 14:20, 8 February 2012 (PST)

== Possible Video of the now? ==
Nevermind, realised you can do it yourself now...
MellowColor

== I hear you bro ==
Your words of support move me. It warms my heart to know that you recognise the problem we have and are completely behind us. It gives me that much more confidence that we can salvage this place. Please feel free to make me a Jerkop so I can ban problem makers myself though. In my line of work, dealing with faggots means threatening a lot of bans, and it would be nice to have a badge to wave in their face to help move the conversation along in those cases. Come on Champy. Help a brother out? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:59, 21 February 2012 (PST)