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Talk:Transgender

2017-01-29T00:40:49Z

Realts: /* Who comes up with these lies? */ new section

==Is the Tomgirl Saga really over?==
I don't know if this has been discussed already here. I didn't see it addressed specifically on [[Talk:Saga]], although [[Talk:Saga#On Sagas]] came close. There are some scattered posts on the forums about it, but I'm still confused.

Has the Tomgirl Saga really ended? I posit that it has not, ''if'' it is simply defined as '''the period of time during which Chris crossdresses,''' because he's clearly still crossdressing. In his most recent [[List of OkCupid Answers#2014 Answers|OkCupid answers]], he stated "I would cross dress more often if my mother was not against me doing it (panties and bra included, but wear them anyway)." His [[OkCupid#LevelUpKing Profile|latest profile]] no longer mentions his tomgirlism in the text, however he has [[:File:Okcupid_8_jul_2014_5.jpg|this]] as one of his profile photos.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what "Saga" means, but I think that declaring Bob's death the endpoint of the Saga may have been premature. I get that the discontinuation of the [[Calling Out]] videos was significant, but does that necessarily mean the Tomgirl Saga is over? Someone set me [[Homos#Fear of being a homo|STRAIGHT]] here. —[[User:CWCTime|CWCTime]] ([[User talk:CWCTime|talk]]) 01:55, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

:Don't think it ended. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 16:12, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

==Lesbian saga?==
I have to say, this'll be a really big deal if the 3-year saga comes to an end. Whether he honestly supports equal rights at this point or not, it seems we might be entering the post-home destruction phase of Chris's life. [[User:Boomhauer|Boomhauer]] ([[User talk: Boomhauer|talk]]) 21:08, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

:Chris is still referring to himself as a tomgirl in addition to the other stuff, possibly to hang on to some semblance of masculinity (although that's just speculative on my part.) Therefore, I'm thinking he's in a period of transition at this point. I guess it's just to be determined until further notice. I don't think the tomgirl saga ever really ended, but it could be winding down if Chris makes a more drastic and noticeable transition. [[User:LOLlolcow|LOLlolcow]] ([[User talk:LOLlolcow|talk]]) 21:43, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

:Fair enough; guess I might be grasping at straws, here. [[User:Boomhauer|Boomhauer]] ([[User talk: Boomhauer|talk]]) 21:50, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

:That's all anyone can do, really. We're not Chris (thankfully,) so everything we know comes from him. I guess we'll see, lol [[User:LOLlolcow|LOLlolcow]] ([[User talk:LOLlolcow|talk]]) 21:49, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

== Merge pages? ==

Should the [[Tomgirl Pictures]] page be merged with [[Tomgirl Saga]]?

Most of the info on the Pictures page is also on the Saga one. The Chris-tran gallery also exists on both pages.[[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 08:12, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

== Who comes up with these lies? ==

The article states

> In May 2015, Chris began a largely ineffectual form of hormone treatment

with a link to the Oestrogel page. Who comes up with these lies? Oestrogel is not "ineffectual" at all, it is a very common medication for hormone replacement therapy in transitioning and is quite effective if used in the correct dose and preferably combined with a anti-androgen. Regularly applied it can easily change hormone levels to normal female levels which will facilitate bodily transition, breast formation etc. There is quite a lot to ridicule CWC about but posting such lies is not warranted. -- [[User:Realts|Realts]] ([[User talk:Realts|talk]]) 00:40, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Oestrogel application and Vibrating Bra, How To.

2017-01-29T00:34:53Z

Realts: Untrue claim, removed - see discussion. Written by someone who has no knowledge at all apparently.

{{Honest}}
'''Oestrogel application and Vibrating Bra, How To.''' is a video Chris uploaded to his [[YouTube]] channel on 6 [[December 2015]]. It is full of [[honest content]].

Chris puts on his signature female voice to help convince us all he's truly a transsexual, and shows off his [[obesity]] by 'buttering' his stomach in Oestrogel, a prescription medication generally meant to treat menopausal symptoms. He talks of the significant increase in his breasts, ludicrously claiming that he's a D cup, despite his mantits being no larger than they already were. He then demonstrates how he puts vibrators in his bra cups to supposedly enlarge his breasts, [[Honor Roll|somehow]]. He refers readers to the YouTube channel "violet4151", a [[JERKS|male]]-to-[[Women's rights|female]] transgender woman who hopefully hasn't had the pleasure of knowing she's been endorsed by Chris-Chan, for more transitioning information. Because of course after seeing Chris rub menopause cream on his gut, Chris's hordes of transgender fans will be ravenous for more.

==Health Risks for Chris==

Oestrogel contains 0.06% 17β estradiol, a female sex hormone, and is used in hormone replacement therapy by menopausal and post-menopausal women, such as Barb, whom he may have simply stolen it from. It has side effects, some of which can pose [[Chris and health|serious health risks for Chris]]. Doctors do not recommend that women who are overweight or obese use Oestrogel and side effects include fluid retention, weight changes, rise in blood pressure (disastrous for an obese person like Chris) and blood clots<ref name=healthrisks>[http://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-89430/estrogel-transdermal/details/list-sideeffects Common and Rare Side Effects for Estrogel transdermal]. WebMD</ref>.

==Description==
{{quotebox|Go to Violet for Transgender transitioning tips and advice, better than I could ever provide.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8xaIcidBMZ2dKQSTpyrtAg}}

==Video==

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| name = Oestrogel application and Vibrating Bra, How To.
| video = {{#ev:youtube|dxpRkMxTMAE}}
| stardate = 6 [[December 2015]]
| subject = {{Homos|text}}
| style = {{Reason|text}}
| shirt = {{Cwcbra2|text}}
| saga = {{Tomgirl|text}}
| previous = [[Embargo Update 12/2/2015]]
| next = [[GameStop is UNFAIR to Everyone; Not Just Me!]]
}}

==Transcript==
[''Chris is seated and wearing a [[muscle bra|bra]].'']

[''high-pitched''] Hello everybody! It’s me once again, and we’re gonna do a [[fanbase|fan]] request tonight. [''normal voice resumed''] I’m gonna show off uh, among which among the trans, among the way I’m transitioning [''sexy hair flip''] and being a [[Homos#Chris and transsexuality|transgender person, transwoman]]. I’ll apply some Oestrogel. And uh, actually I would personally recommend for, you know, their transitioning tips and uh, experience from someone who’s more, who’s actually farther ahead than I am, I’m... yeah, and in my subscriptions, uh, it’s uh, her name is Violet. Her channel is violet4151, right here on [[YouTube]]. And she pretty much, just did it from start to finish, recorded everything, so I pretty much recommend going to her for other advice and input.

Well for now we’re gonna show you how to apply some Oestrogel. [''Holds up grooved plastic strip to camera.''] Uh, it goes, you rub it [''rubs stomach''] down here usually, all over, and it comes with tubes, it comes with a spatula, it’s got little grooves on, right dere. From one to the udder, that’s the amount of space you want to put, uh, for the...amount. [''Unscrews cap and begins squeezing the medication on the strip.''] So, yeah, I mark it with my, mark the inside end with my thumb and move from one end of the groove to the other. And of course, when the tube gets empty, then that’s, it can be-, get, it can be more difficult to get it out.
But yeah, after you get down dere and you just [''begins smearing the stuff on his belly''] rub it on there like butter on bread! Up and down. And you do this once a night for up to 24 to 28 days out of the month, and then you take the three-to-seven-day break for the remaining days, up until when you start up th-, start up the, the routine again for the following month.

And uh, on the other, and then on the second thing that I have actually confirmed plausible, [''reaches behind himself and brings out blue plastic things with wires attached''] uh, the vibrating brassiere, or at least what I did, and I took a couple of remote-control vibrating eggs that uh, take two AA batteries at the very least, or triple-As, I guess they could be easily replace, replaceable inexpensively. I like to, I tend to keep my shirt on, so [''begins to stuff them in his bra''] I slip ‘em ‘bout, one right dere...oh, I mean, I wanna do it where the wire is, facing my back, so...one dere, one dere, and then I just turn them both on full blast. [''activates eggs, which buzz''] And I like to go, and I like get, let that going for about fifteen to thirty minutes a day. And I have found that after the uh, the first week of trying this, I have found a significant increase to my bust size. [''sucks in gut and thrusts out bosom''] Little bit better than D, [[Chris and Reality|I’m sure]], but I haven’t used a measuring tape yet, but I have...yeah, I have seen the difference in my, in my shadow on the wall, and just looking down upon them. So anyway, you wanna do that fifteen to thirty minutes a day. [''pulls eggs out from bra''] And uh, even if it, and it may vary, or you might be at your maximum breast, brecks size, because genetics. Anyway, so even, even if it doesn’t work out, just, [''cups breasts''] it feels good, the vibrations there. [''shows profile again'']

Anyway, uh, so, once again, for other transwoman tips I definitely recommend going to Violet’s channel. I’ll put a little link on the, underneath this video, and uh, it’s also, she’s also on my subscription list as well, so that’s my recommendation. Mm, thank you very much and have a good day. [''fumbles with how to turning off the camera for ten seconds.''] Mm. [''mumbles about the remote'']

{{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[Embargo Update 12/2/2015]]|nextlink=[[GameStop is UNFAIR to Everyone; Not Just Me!]]|}}

[[Category:Chris-chan videos, 2015]]
[[Category:Videos Christian uploaded to YouTube]]

==References==
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Talk:Oestrogel application and Vibrating Bra, How To.

2017-01-29T00:34:17Z

Realts: /* Untrue claim */ new section

==Acquisition==

How did Chris obtain the Oestrogel? Because if it's a prescription medication, there's no way he could've gotten it legally.....Maybe someone sent it to him? [[User:EssentialAwakening|EssentialAwakening]] ([[User talk:EssentialAwakening|talk]]) 16:03, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

== Untrue claim ==

> It is, unsurprisingly, not recommended at all for gender transitioning, irrespective of how it's applied.

This is nonsense. I'm a ACTUAL transsexual woman and Oestrogel (or other brand names of Estradiol gel) is a common (and unlike tablets quite safe) medication for hormone replacement therapy (HRT) and is used by thousands of people around the world for transitioning. I will remove that wrong claim from the article. -- [[User:Realts|Realts]] ([[User talk:Realts|talk]]) 00:34, 29 January 2017 (UTC)