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User:Sheex

2011-11-21T14:03:33Z

Sheex:

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Long time CWCki lurker who enjoys cheap laughs.

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2011-11-20T04:31:26Z

Sheex: Created page with "I lose my shit every time I see this image. Whoever made it, know that you have made me laugh uncontrollably every time I see it. ~~~~"

I lose my shit every time I see this image. Whoever made it, know that you have made me laugh uncontrollably every time I see it. [[User:Sheex|Sheex]] 20:31, 19 November 2011 (PST)

CWCki:Technical

2011-03-15T14:43:43Z

Sheex:

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{{Community Portal}}

For discussion of errors, extensions, and technical stuff in general(yes we know about the 500 errors).

== upgraded to 1.16.0 ==

seems like all the obvious stuff is fixed but if there are any missing extensions you need please let me know --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 02:39, 2 August 2010 (PDT)

==Audio hosting==
Seeing as how some of the audio recordings that we link to on some pages have been removed from their file hosting sites, I was thinking maybe instead of having people download audio we simply host it here CWCiki side. An example of what I am talking about can be found here.[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FDR_speech.ogg] [[User:CrassCrab|CrassCrab]] 10:14, 3 August 2010 (PDT)
: This could be doable, but needs server configuration. From user's point of view, it could be a simple matter of converting the files to Ogg Vorbis and uploading them here. Currently, the upload page doesn't accept .ogg files, and files are limited to 7 MB. In order to make the in-browser support work, we'd need the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OggHandler OggHandler extension] (which needs ffmpeg and other leet stuff installed on the server as well). --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 03:12, 6 August 2010 (PDT)

==Apache Module versus CGI==
I've been a long time lurker, but the prevalence of 500 Internal Server Errors has prompted me to register an account. I've lurked and searched the CWCki to see if this has been suggested, but I didn't see anyone bring up this potential solution. So I apologize if I'm offering a redundant suggestion. These error messages seem to suggest to me that the Wiki software is running on CGI. A lot of CGI-related performance issues can be remedied by running PHP via an Apache module, rather than as a CGI binary. The PHP CGI binary is invoked, processes a script, and then shuts down every time a page is requested. Apache modules are continuous, thread safe processes (thread safety can be build dependent). I'm not sure if this hosting provider offers such a configuration option, but it may be worth looking into one that does if this becomes an increasingly prominent issue. FastCGI may be a worthwhile alternative to the current configuration if an Apache module is not an option because of some inherent limitations with Wiki software. [[User:Sheex|Sheex]] 10:28, 24 August 2010 (PDT)

== 500 internal server error poll ==
Please note what page you received it on and what your action was (view/edit/etc...). [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 14:25, 5 October 2010 (PDT)
*Main Page/View - It happens sometimes when I try going here on a new window. --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]] 18:14, 5 October 2010 (EST)
:*I almost always get it when saving an edit, sometimes when I log in. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam & Eggs]] 17:10, 5 October 2010 (PDT)
::*Same here.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 18:08, 5 October 2010 (PDT)
:::*That's actually been happening to me quite a bit, recently. --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]] 21:23, 5 October 2010 (EST)
::::Extra processing and memory is used while saving a page, and since lack of memory is the likely cause of the error - it's unsurprising that you encounter it when doing the above. Implementing global caching would help alleviate server load, as currently every page request from logged in users is generating server processing. Longer pages have more chance of generating the error - as they are larger, and take up more memory while being processed. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 18:30, 5 October 2010 (PDT)
:::::I'll back up the main page and saving edits. I almost never get them otherwise recently. Sometimes I get them if I try to open a page in a tab. The way I browse, I open links I want to read in tabs in tabs to where I can continue reading the page I'm on without having to come back and remember where I was. The tabs will 500 error about 25% of the time. [[User:BubblegumPinkButler|BubblegumPinkButler]] 14:22, 6 October 2010 (PDT)
* Got one this morning on the Main page. I didn't do anything in particular other than trying to open it. --[[User:ErsatzHouse|ErsatzHouse]] 12:55, 8 October 2010 (PDT)

== Is the CWCki faster now? ==
Is it? Do you get the 500 internal server error still? [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 20:39, 5 October 2010 (PDT)
*It's better. Though it still takes a little while to load longer pages after editing, and I've only experienced one error message while searching for some video. It's a good start, though. --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]] 00:02, 6 October 2010 (EST)
::Yes it's very fast when not doing things like editing/saving pages (as to be expected). The changes made should hopefully mean fewer errors for everyone, and it seems like a much faster article-browsing experience too. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 21:18, 5 October 2010 (PDT)
*I still get a lot of 500 Internal Server Errors. Not as many as before but it still happens a noticeable amount. It's as fast as it was before; I don't see any difference. [[User:Yossarian|Yossarian]] 13:26, 6 October 2010 (PDT)
*I've only gotten one today. Usually I get at least three.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 21:35, 9 October 2010 (PDT)
**Okay, today I got bitchslapped by the error when trying to edit that stupid prank call page.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 21:24, 15 October 2010 (PDT)
*I only seem to get 500 errors when requesting pages which are not static (i.e. edit pages, recent changes, histories, diffs). The odd 500 error I get when browsing regular articles tends to be on ones that are subject to a lot of recent edits, such as a new video article. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 05:52, 13 October 2010 (PDT)

== Default Skin ==

I think we should make Vector the default skin for the CWCki, as MonoBook is pretty dated and Vector gives wikis a very clean appearance. A lot of wikis are adopting Vector for this reason. The layout differences are fairly minor, so it really shouldn't give anyone much trouble by making it the default. Users who really dislike it can still change back to MonoBook in their prefs.

* [http://www.sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Main%20Page&useskin=vector Preview Vector on the Main Page]
* [http://www.sonichu.com/w/index.php?title={{FULLPAGENAME}}&useskin=vector Preview Vector on this page]
* [http://polldaddy.com/poll/4120043/ Vote here]
Your thoughts please! --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 20:11, 19 November 2010 (PST)
:Personally I find Monobook more simplistic and nice, as well as more familiar. But we'll see. -- [[User:Mexican|Mexican]] 21:03, 19 November 2010 (PST)
:Vector is clunky and confusing. I prefer Monobook. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 21:38, 19 November 2010 (PST)
:Monobook is only used by autistics. Vector should be the new default skin.--[[User:Inos|Inos]] 22:09, 19 November 2010 (PST)
:Vector's kinda pretty! --[[User:NerdyNautilus|NerdyNautilus]] 10:36, 19 November, 2010 (PST)
:<s>I could defend either one but they're both shitty white default skins so I honestly don't give a damn. If I had to choose I'd say the one we have now is fine, there's no reason to change it for the sake of changing it. That's how Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts raped my childhood.</s> Fuckfuck fuck that noise. I forgot vector moves the searchbar to the top, and it was confusing as fuck when Wikipedia did it. Vector can eat a dick.--[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 23:45, 19 November 2010 (PST)
::The search box movement is about the only major layout change in Vector. There's a reason why Wikipedia changed the default to Vector - it's nicer. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 06:34, 20 November 2010 (PST)
:Vector is made of AIDS. Monobook works just fine. --[[User:Reimu H|Reimu H]] 05:40, 20 November 2010 (PST)
::I don't see how Vector is made of AIDS. Just because something works is not a reason to not consider changing it. While some people clearly prefer MonoBook because it's been the default for so long, I was hoping that people would see that it does give a cleaner appearance to the CWCki and that from the average reader's perspective - it can be more aesthetically pleasing. The design of Vector is more fluid than MonoBook, with less grey and more light colours. The removal of the grey book background is one noticeable change that definitely lightens up articles. With Wikipedia and several other major wikis already using Vector, it should make the CWCki feel more familiar for the average reader. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 06:34, 20 November 2010 (PST)
:::I don't know, it feels like Vector is just using cheap gradient tricks and light blue colors to seem nicer, but really it's actually making everything bigger and less streamlined. I tink the only people who are really going to come to CWCki are nerds of course, and they probably more appreciate the monobook look. -- [[User:Mexican|Mexican]] 08:36, 20 November 2010 (PST)
::::Use of gradients is fairly minor, and is done because the skin is not meant to be very heavy. It doesn't really make things bigger - the default size for menu links is indeed larger than MonoBook, but it adds to the clean and clear factor of Vector. The sidebar is about the same width. Vector seems very streamlined to me. I disagree with both the claim that the majority of our visitors are nerds and the claim that they will appreciate monobook more. If they're familiar with Wikipedia, they'd be more likely to appreciate Vector. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 08:50, 20 November 2010 (PST)
:I say we keep Monobook, the movement of the search bar is the big problem with Vector. At least we're not using Oasis, which is Wikia's new skin. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam & Eggs]] 07:14, 20 November 2010 (PST)
:There are a number of issues I have with Vector. First of all, raising the search bar makes it so that I have to scroll to the top of even small articles to search, which is a minor irritant, but an irritant nonetheless. Secondly, the breaking up of the "Page/Discussion" and "Edit/View History" makes it more difficult to quickly navigate an article (I use a trackpad, so moving across the screen is not really something I like to do). Thirdly, the "Watch" button is hidden in the little menu next to "View History" - and it's the only thing there. That just bothers me, and besides, when I want to watch a page, I'd like to only have to click once. I suppose the only other two changes that I can see that matter are that 1) the bottom bar is now different (to which I am indifferent, as I never use that bar anyway) and 2) the Donation ad appears to be gone, although that might be easily corrected (and again, I am indifferent). I honestly think what we have appears more professional (looks like a portfolio to me) and is more compact (because it is). To me, Vector/Monobook is like Mac/Windows. Protip: Windows is better. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 07:33, 20 November 2010 (PST)
::You know that the little dropdown next to View history should be on-hover and not on-click, so it should still only be one click. The dropdown contains more options if you're an admin. I rarely use the watched pages feature though - so I guess I've never really been worried about where the link is for it. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 07:37, 20 November 2010 (PST)
Thing is this isn't a professional & widely-used wiki like Wikipedia. It's a wiki dedicated to doccumenting the trolling of a fat retard from Virginia. Besides, you said we'd be able to change it back to Monobook if the default layout was changed right? Why can't there just be an alternative option to change the layout to Vector for those who want it instead of changing the default layout to Vector? --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 07:59, 20 November 2010 (PST)
:You can manually configure Vector to be your default skin already. The idea of setting Vector to be our default skin would be to make the CWCki nicer to the majority of users who simply come here as readers, who may not have accounts, and who may be unaware of the fact wikis allow you to change your skin. The vast majority of visitors to CWCki are readers, and I think it would be nicer for them to experience CWCki with Vector. I don't think the subject of this wiki makes either skin a better or worse choice. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 08:50, 20 November 2010 (PST)
::/shrug. Set up a vote on the Main Page then. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 09:04, 20 November 2010 (PST)
:Meh. Personally, I hate Vector, but it'll make the wiki look more pro. Anyone as particular as me about it can just change it ourselves. [[User:Enibure|Enibure]] 09:34, 20 November 2010 (PST)

: I feel that Vector has a "food court" aesthetic that I don't like, plus everybody is used to Monobook already. I support the "keep Monobook, but let people change to vector if they want" motion. Is there a problem with Monobook, or is it just a matter of keeping up with the Joneses? -[[User: GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 12:36 PM, 20 November 2010 (EST)
:I support the "vote on the Main Page" idea. If you're worried that staying like this will be worse for the average, account-free Joe, just make it say something like "Hey anon faggot come vote here" or some shit. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 09:53, 20 November 2010 (PST)

: I don't like how Vector has the search bar at the top right. It's a lot more convenient when it's near the navigation and toolbox windows. [[User:Mr3urious|Mr3urious]] 10:11, 20 November 2010 (PST)
:: Then again, I ''am'' getting used to Wikipedia's layout. [[User:Mr3urious|Mr3urious]] 10:13, 20 November 2010 (PST)
:Everything but not what the Wikipedia is using right now. I hate it even more that these huge-ass "personal appeals" from Jimbo begging for my money that I keep clicking on accidentally. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 10:22, 20 November 2010 (PST)

:I don't really have a preference. Vector has a nice professional feeling to it (but then, none of us are professionals, just bored trolls following the misadventures of an overweight manchild... but that's off-topic), but Monobook has more nostalgic appeal to me. Whatever's best. [[User:N. Onymous|N. Onymous]] 10:58, 20 November 2010 (PST)

:I vote for vector! [[User:PeachyKeen|PeachyKeen]] 11:17, 20 November 2010 (PST)

:Both are equally good. [[User:OrsonZedd|OrsonZedd]] 11:54, 20 November 2010 (PST)

:Vector is awesome, and I use it in every wiki that supports it, mostly because you don't really need to look for the search box (in some MonoBook sites, its location kind of depends on what the admins have been drinking over the past week). But I don't know if I have any preference either way as to whether it should be made default. People who are logged out can't edit the wiki and people who are logged in can change the preference, so it's hard to start weighing the usability and the skins don't really affect the way the articles look like. No harm going either way. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 11:58, 20 November 2010 (PST)

Vector looks bloated. Like Chris. [[User:CrassCrab|CrassCrab]] 12:34, 20 November 2010 (PST)
:You make it sound suitable for CWCki then :P Also seems like we have [http://polldaddy.com/poll/4120043/ a poll up for voting]! --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 13:27, 20 November 2010 (PST)

Essentially I'm tempted to push for the change to Vector as default anyway. We have to look at this from the perspective of "what is best for new users/readers" rather than what is best for the small number of users who hold accounts and choose to voice their opinions. Overall, Vector is widely accepted as being far better for users than MonoBook is - Wikipedia would not have been as bold as to switch to it if that wasn't the case. Don't forget that if anyone really doesn't like Vector, they can easily switch back to MonoBook in their userprefs. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 15:37, 20 November 2010 (PST)
*Hence the vote, which doesn't require an account. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 15:39, 20 November 2010 (PST)
::Doesn't mean that the right people will vote though. For instance, a lot of people enter the CWCki sideways, via search engines to certain pages rather than the main page. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 15:50, 20 November 2010 (PST)
:::The people who look at one article and leave won't even use the search bar. This change appeals to the regs, and the regs will almost definitely check the front page for updates on Chris. I think this gives us as accurate a representation as possible. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 16:00, 20 November 2010 (PST)
::::The change affects everyone, it will be more noticeable to the regs, but overall it's a change that will improve familiarity and usability for the majority of users. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 16:03, 20 November 2010 (PST)
:::::I think a vote is the best way to get the general consensus. If you think it will increase validity by putting the vote on every page, by all means do so. If the vote is meaningless because the sultanism of CWCki deigns it so, take it off the front page. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 16:09, 20 November 2010 (PST)
:I didn't come up with the poll idea - but I think it is the wrong way to really determine whether we switch or not. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 16:20, 20 November 2010 (PST)
::The poll results are certainly surprising to me so far. Perhaps Vector is the way to go after all. -- [[User:Mexican|Mexican]] 09:27, 21 November 2010 (PST)

Just make it an option in people's settings. IMO, Vector looks retarded. I'd perfer to keep it as it is. [[User:Smtp|Smtp]] 18:58, 21 November 2010 (PST)

When Vector was introduced in Wikipedia I hated it with a passion, especially for the position of the search box. Now I got used to it, and it does look a tad sleeker than MonoBook. Whatever the poll says. --[[User:ErsatzHouse|ErsatzHouse]] 04:41, 22 November 2010 (PST)

I agree with Smtp. Vector looks like a mess in comparison to Monobook. Also, yeah, just make it an option in the preferences or something. [[User:Der Zuschauer|Der Zuschauer]] 13:39, 22 November 2010 (PST)

It already is an option - but I think it would be better to have Vector be the default and people who really can't handle change can switch back to MonoBook. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 14:44, 22 November 2010 (PST)
:If its already an option, why are we polling about it or having discussion? Just set it and people that don't like it can just switch it and leave it at that. [[User:Smtp|Smtp]] 17:05, 22 November 2010 (PST)
:: To clarify: Logged in users can change their preferences - you can already choose whether you use Vector or MonoBook. People who ''aren't'' logged in can't change it (permanently, anyway), and will only see the default skin set by the site admins. So this poll is essentially asking "what skin would you like the random passers-by and perpetual lurkers see?" I guess someone would call this "Decision-making that affects an important demographic" or other crap like that. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 04:43, 24 November 2010 (PST)

*For my two cents, I like the old one because 1) it doesn't try to look flashy and everything is up there and 2) I fear change. But don't let my opinion sway your opinion, folks.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 14:28, 23 November 2010 (PST)

I actually think the CWCki needs to be a little more pro in terms of visual style and the overall documentation, plus adjust the feeling of the CWCki, make it more inviting for first timers and people wanting to check out the illustrious CWCki. Granted it's a wiki dedicated to a retarded manchild and his wild exploits, but that doesn't mean we can't make the CWCki look a little more sophisticated and organized. I think streamlining it a litte more will be better in the long run, I think the Vector is more fetching than the current Monobook format. Just something made me like Vector more than Monobook. --[[user:Chris Pickles|Chris Pickles]] 02:18, 25 November 25th 2010 (EST)

== Vector is now the default skin ==
Following the poll, which included over 500 votes, Vector was the most popular and has been made the default. Don't forget that you really can't handle the change - you can change back to MonoBook in your [[Special:Preferences|user prefs]]. I would hope that you at least give Vector a fair chance before switching back. Any interface changes we make are unlikely to be applied to MonoBook, which may eventually break it. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:22, 25 November 2010 (PST)
:If you ever add new stuff to vector and not monobook let us know. -- [[User:Mexican|Mexican]] 19:09, 1 December 2010 (PST)
:Don't worry too much about the skin compatibility. Many of the CSS tweaks should work on both skins if you put them in [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] instead of [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]] or [[MediaWiki:Vector.css]], like how things apparently have been done so far. The skin-specific bits are, uh, supposed to be skin-specific. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 04:28, 2 December 2010 (PST)

== Error messages and security ==
I noticed yesterday (3/15/11) that there was a window of downtime. During this time, PHP error messages were visible. PHP errors should always be disabled during production, because PHP errors can help users with malicious intent to develop an attack footprint on an application. One particular error revealed a class name used in the app, and the location in the filesystem that the script triggering the error existed. Since exploits and vulnerabilities in PHP applications are far from rare, a known exploit in the Wiki software combined with the knowledge the error gave can make it easier for malicious users to choose an attack type that is the most effective.

Check out the following PHP runtime config options:
*http://us.php.net/manual/en/errorfunc.configuration.php#ini.display-errors
*http://us.php.net/manual/en/errorfunc.configuration.php#ini.log-errors

Although these are php.ini level configuration options, they can be changed during script execution with the use of ini_set(), or even by employing an .htaccess file in the root directory that changes these values. So you don't need php.ini access to apply these security settings.

I know it seems trivial to some, but I felt like this was worth bringing up. [[User:Sheex|Sheex]] 07:43, 15 March 2011 (PDT)

Talk:Obesity

2010-10-02T19:03:37Z

Sheex: /* Gynomastia */

==To do==
Add Chris's comments about weight ("about 200 pounds"), his exercise (Guitar Hero, standing up), Chris being defensive about his weight (in IRC, he got really defense and in an e-mail with Evan [I think] he's like "I AM NOT FAT!!!!!!!!!!!") and so forth. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:20, 31 May 2009 (CEST)
*I added a lot of stuff, but I suck with editing wiki format so a lot of things don't have links. I fsomeone wants to help out, go for it.--[[User:Howsyourham|Howsyourham]] 17:01, 19 July 2009 (CEST)
*Now that the Chris and Health article is up, I propose that we merge this and that article together, seing as this falls under health.
:*I'm tempted to do that, though I'm leaning towards calling this "Chris and his weight" since that's a pretty indepth topic himself that comes up a lot (that is, "Chris is fat lol"). Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:35, 3 September 2009 (CEST)
::*It's definitely an important topic, seeing as how it has not only been brought up so many times, but how adamantly Chris has reacted to it. It's beyond just not bathing regularly, this is a real part of his mindset and I think it warrants it's own page. Why don't we just move the two sections from [[Chris and Health|Health]] and add them to this page, then include a link? We already are talking about exercise, I don't think nutrition would be that much of a leap. --[[User:LizardPie|LizardPie]] 16:48, 3 September 2009 (CEST)
:::*When I made this article I made it because there seems to be a lot of fat people in Chris' life, including himself. But then again this is quite common in the US. So I support it being moved to "Chris and Obesity" or "Chris and His Weight", but not merged with the Health article.--[[User:Goatselover|Goatselover]] 23:20, 23 September 2009 (CEST)
:: merge this bitch--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 18:39, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

==Rename==
I'm thinking about renaming this "Chris's weight." Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:17, 28 October 2009 (CET)
*If we're going for a more objective title, that would be better. Obesity should still re-direct to it, though; if for no other reason than that this particular page is linked to extensively and trying to find them all would be a bitch. --[[User:LizardPie|LizardPie]] 01:24, 28 October 2009 (CET)
**How about renaming it "Buddha Belly" considering that's his CWC-ism for his obesity. --[[User:Goatselover|Goatselover]] 00:36, 15 November 2009 (CET)
***Honestly, I think pretty much all of this could be added to [[Chris and Health]]. Maybe we could label that section Buddha belly, or at least mention that on the page or something?--[[User:That Man|That Man]] 19:37, 1 December 2009 (CET)

== Merge ==

There's a lot of good stuff here, but it overlaps with [[Chris and Health]]. Could it be condensed into a subsection of his weight and diet?--[[User:Megaman|''Megaman!'' ]] [[Image:MegaManXRunning.gif]] 08:19, 5 December 2009 (CET)
*I agree with this. The "Chris and..." series is a much better place for this and some other overlapping articles. I vote we merge.--[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 23:47, 7 December 2009 (CET)
*I also agree with the merge. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:03, 13 December 2009 (CET)
*Same. [[User:Shiny Marshtomp|Shiny]] 20:04, 13 December 2009 (CET)
*I agree! It'd make a lot more sense IMHO. --[[User:Morganna|Morganna]] 17:24, 3 January 2010 (CET)
*Yeah I agree, but we have to becareful not to Fuck up the Health article. But there IS a large ammount of good info on here.--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 18:14, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
*I don't know. His obesity has been playing a lot into his life lately, from Kacey's father calling him fat to which he's embarrassed to admit it and uses a euphemism to try and not outright refer to himself as fat, to denying it and claiming he used to be fat (i.e. Sammy and addressing Asperchu).--[[User:Goatselover|Goatselover]] 23:54, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
*To me it seems that a lot of the actual health related aspects could be added to Chris and Health in a merge, but I also agree with the above comment in the rename section regarding the CWCism 'Buddha belly' I say we do a bit of both of those. We'll have a section for his obesity in Chris and Health and another seperate page for the CWCism Buddha belly. Kind of like how there are articles for 'Chris and Race' alongside the page for the CWCism 'Niggos' --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 02:01, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
*I say let this stand, but maybe trim some of the fat (heh heh) from Chris and health — anything on that page should just be a summary of the concepts that are covered in more detail here. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 23:21, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
* I say we merge this bitch--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 07:42, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
* I vote for placing an overview of his obesity, particularly the health ramifications, on the Health page, with a link to Obesity. So I second (or rather third) Apostrophe and Edward--[[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 12:33, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
* I agree wholly to merge this sucker, that way, everything about Obesity can be covered in Chris and Health, and his excuses not to exercise as well. --[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 03:54, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
* I like having this separate. Chris and health is massive as it is.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 03:58, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
* I'm also going agree with everyone on having them separate. If his [[hair]] gets it's own article despite not being as major of a subject as his obesity then I don't see why this should be merged.--[[User:Goatselover|Goatselover]] 15:31, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

==Way to determine his weight==

Why not ask him his waist size? I mean he's probably too stupid to realize that its meant to get his actual weight. [[User:Shawths|Shawths]]
*Because he might not know, or might measure inaccurately? [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 16:57, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
** He'll most likely lie and say that he's a size 4 or something. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 16:58, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
*** You really think we can't lead him on?[[User:Shawths|Shawths]]
***We could tell him that a number in a certain range (one likely to be close to his size) is the sign of a strong, healthy man. - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 11:16, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
**** Brilliant. We could tell him that the sign of a healthy man is a waistline between 40 and 50. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 17:21, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
* For what it's worth, as someone who is a little chubbier than Chris (yes, I know that makes me a fatass), I think I can supply a decent estimate. I'd put him at around 250lb, plus or minus 10. [[User:PsychoticPuggle|PsychoticPuggle]] 12:39, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
==Mention how he inspires us all==
Man it is sad that the person who convinced me i should work harder at losing weight was because he was such a repugnant human being that he gave fat people a bad name. Seriously they should make documentaries about his life to convince kids that obesity is bad it is much more effective than the current shit they do.

==Gynomastia==

Discussion of Chris's gynomastia has no place on this page for at least a couple of reasons. Gynomastia is a specific medical condition wherein a male develops mammary tissue. Pseudogynomastia is when a guy is really fat and his fatness looks kind of like titties. These are distinct because breast tissue isn't adipose tissue--isn't fat. Aereolas aren't breast tissue either. The first reason is that Chris doesn't have gynomastia--he has pseudogynomastia; he's just fat. The second is that gynomastia also has nothing directly to do with obesity, so even if he did have it, discussion of it should go in [[Chris and Health]]. —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 10:34, 2 October 2010 (PDT)
*Obesity and Gynecomastia are linked in the respect that excess fat triggers the production of estrogen. [[User:Sheex|Sheex]] 12:03, 2 October 2010 (PDT)

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