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Sonee & Rosey

2011-07-03T03:28:06Z

SilentThunder: An to A, grammar fix.

[[Image:SchuSoneeRosey.jpg|thumb|A '''Sonee''' and a '''Rosey'''. Note that Rosey's looking lustfully at Sonee. [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|Seriously]].]]

'''Sonees''' and '''Roseys''' (sometimes '''Rosees'''<ref>[[IRC (16 October 2008)]]</ref><ref>[[The Sonichu Chronicles]]</ref>) are the pre-evolutionary forms of [[Sonichu (species)|Sonichus]] and [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechus]]. Their colors usually correspond to their type. Most [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] in the comic started out as eggs that fell out of a [[rainbow]] and hatched as Sonees and Roseys.

==Appearance==

Technically, baby versions of [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]] never could have existed because they were transformed directly from a [[Pikachu]] and [[Raichu]], not Pichu, their pre-evolved form. It's generally understood that the "[[Hanky-panky|miracle of birth]]" does not provide Sonichu offspring with their shoes, bows, and skirts shown,<ref>[http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_10/Page_84 Issue 10 Page 84] Sandy is born nude.</ref> but there are contradictions.<ref>[http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_3/Page_9 Issue 3 Page 9] Magi-chan is born with a vest.</ref> (Whatever the case, they automatically gain clothing upon evolution... but ''again'' there are more contradictions<ref>[http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_3/Page_7 Issue 3 Page 7] Angelica is born (and [[pedofork|raised]]) nude, but [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Chris]] has to give her shoes and a scrunchie at evolution.</ref>.) None of the [[Chaotic Combo]], or [[Silvana]], corresponds to the "Original Sonee and Rosey," but rather to the prismatic range of the [[rainbow]]. There's also a continuity in the attire with the "Sonichu/Rosechu" species; "Sonees" are stark-naked with shoes while "Roseys" wear dresses.

Although Chris has stated that he finds them cute, most ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' [[Trolls|readers]] reacted in disgust when first confronted with these hideously repulsive creatures, and a large consensus has agreed that they are some of the most aggravating characters, their lack of comprehensible (relatively speaking; most ''Sonichu'' dialogue is at least in something that resembles [[English]]) speech being a major cause of anger. Their physical appearance is also a source of much disgust, as it is an overload of conventionally "cute" characteristics, done horribly wrong. They look like they're trying too hard to be cute, and it is sickening.

The appearance of [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Children]] in "[[A Sonichu Day]]" is a particularly grating one, as Chris gives them some of the most retarded dialogue he has ever given, in a despicably twee voice. Their appearance in "[[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares]]", where he uses them to represent younger versions of himself and [[Sarah Hammer]], is also horrific when you realize just how contrived and passive-aggressive it all is.

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==Sonee==
{{quote|Sonee is the pre-evolved form of [[Sonichu (species)|Sonichu]]. He is known to have a lot of [[spunk]] and speed. This cute [[Pokemon]] packs a lot of [[sex|action]].|Sonee ''[[Animal Crossing]]'' card[http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:165-ACSoneeBck.jpg]}}

The pre-evolved form of [[Sonichu (species)|Sonichu]]. He has a lot of spunk and speed, and is quite "cute". He is apparently born with shoes on. Like most other [[Pokémon]], they can only speak gibberish.

==Rosey==
[[Image:SchuComic4Page4.jpg|thumb|The birth of a '''Rosey''' [[Bubbles]], sans skirt.]]

{{quote|Rosey is the pre-evolved form of [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechu]]. Her [[Pickle|cuteness]] always gets the [[Pedofork|awe of her enemies]]. When she falls, her skirt acts as a parachute.|[[:Image:232-ACRoseyBck.jpg|Rosey Animal Crossing card]]}}

The pre-evolved form of [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechu]]. According to Chris her so called "cuteness" always gets the awe of her enemies, and when she falls, her skirt acts as a parachute. This last feat is physically impossible, but never mind ''that'', because it offers an [[Pedofork|opportunity]] for panty-shots, that is if they had any, which in fact makes it even worse. It is implied that Roseys are born without any clothing, and shoes and skirts are purchased separately. The Rosey form of [[Bubbles]], for instance (see right), was never born with a skirt. The birth of [[Sandy]] appears to confirm this. <ref>[http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_10/Page_84 Issue 10 Page 84]</ref>

==Biologee==

A cursory examination of the birthdates of [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Children]] implies that Rosechus have a gestation period of around three months. This amount of time would for a normal mammal be insufficient for healthy development, even for monotremes, which possibly explains why Sonees and Roseys always appear [[retarded]] and half-[[Yawning Squirtle|baked]]. However, [[Pokémon]] eggs hatch quite quickly.

Sonees and Roseys seem to vary a lot in intelligence. As infants, the [[Chaotic Combo]] could only say their own names (which is supposed to be [[Things Chris has ripped off|how Pokémon communicate]]). And the "Original" Sonee and Rosey can only say "Goo-Goo," suggesting they start with even less intelligence. However, the Sonichu Children are capable of speaking in complete (albeit mangled) sentences: Sandy was able to talk right after she was born! This discrepancy in intelligence has been addressed in [[Mailbag 23]] in which Chris states that [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Children|Cerah, Christine and Robbie]] learned English from their parents and that the Chaotic Combo didn't have English-speaking guardians, which is a [[lie]] as [[Bubbles]] started speaking English while trying to rescue her mother and [[Wild Sonichu|Wild]] knew English as a Sonichu. This still doesn't address why Sandy could speak right after being born. To further confound the situation, [[Magi-Chan]] informs the readers via textwall that Wild had to teach Sandy English ''after'' she demonstrated fluency with the language, implying that she didn't know it beforehand.<ref>[http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_10/Page_86 Issue 10 Page 86]</ref> Regardless of this, they are all still of inferior intelligence.

It is also worth noting that Sonees and Roseys do not wear the white gloves that Sonichu and Rosechu wear at all times; acquiring the gloves is likely a rite-of-passage. Disturbingly, Sonees and Roseys have rounded stumps rather than hands which gives them the appearance of thalidomide babies, but knowing Chris, he probably ripped them off from the creatures from the ''Sonic'' games known as Chao. The ''[[Animal Crossing]]'' designs and a teddy-bear creature from ''[[Excel Saga]]'' called "Puchuu" may also have substantial influence on the design of Sonees and Roseys. Despite having no opposable thumbs, the mutant baby Pokémon are somehow able to accomplish rudimentary tasks with their stubby arms, such as baking cookies and playing [[PSP]]s.

There's also the strong possibility that Sonichu and Rosechu's children are not representative of the typical Sonee & Rosey Poke-type. In [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], [[Sandy Rosechu]] went from hatching from an egg to her mature form and the intellectual skills of a fourth grader inside of a single week<ref>[http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_10/Page_86]</ref> while [[Punchy]] evolved to his full form in a single day, even though he had his tail ripped off. This leaves us to formulate the hypothesis that Sonichu's children are kinda [[retarded|slower than the average]] to evolve in their adult form. Another possibility is that Sandy evolved rapidly because [[Wild Sonichu|her father]] [[Sonichu_10#The_Final_Countdown|lavished attention on her]], while Cerah, Christine and Robbie are left with [[Heather Iglesias|the nanny]] while their parents are forced to fulfill the wishes of [[Christian Weston Chandler|a deranged tyrant]]. Alternatively, Sonees and Roseys evolve more rapidly under stressful situations (see [[Bubbles]] and [[Punchy]]), thereby suggesting [[Wild]]'s attention is a [[Pedofork|lot less wholesome than the comic would lead you to believe]].

==Galleree==
<center>
<gallery>
Image:164-ACSonee.jpg|JESUS CHIRST IT'S A LION, GET IN THE CAR!
Image:165-ACSoneeBck.jpg
Image:166-SoneeCard.jpg
Image:231-ACRosey.jpg|[[Pedofork|Notice how Chris draws Rosey with a skirt, but no top...]]
Image:232-ACRoseyBck.jpg|[[Pedofork|The card pretty much speaks for itself.]]
Image:233-RoseyCard.jpg
Image:425-CWCSNHP1.jpg
Image:Demonicrobbie.jpg|[[Audiobooks|GOD DAMN LOOK AT THAT FACE]]
Image:Morechristmasshit.jpg|[[The Creepy Stare|This image will haunt your soul]].
Image:Gwandpawuvshisgwandchildren.jpg|Gwandpa Chwis wuvs his gwandchildren.
Image:LOLRape.jpg|Chris spends some quality time with his grandkids.
Image:FeedingTime.jpg|A baby Sonee & a baby Rosey feeding off Chris's [[duck]] milk.
Image:Bizarro Chris Sonichu's Offspring.jpg|Bizarro Chris
</gallery>
</center>

==See also==
{{Fan art}}
*[[Sonichu and Rosechu's Children]]
*[[Sonichu (species)]]
*[[Rosechu (species)]]
*[[Metonic]]
*[[Vamprosa]]
*[[Guro]]
*[[CWC Update 12 August 2009]], in which Chris addresses the former.
*[[Sonichu 3#Episode 10: "Sonichu Babies"|''Sonichu'' #3 Episode 10]], the first episode to feature Sonees and Roseys, to the chagrin of Sonichu [[Trolls|fans]].
*[[SonichuBabies]], a [[parody|riff]] on the Muppet Babies featuring, in lieu of diminutive Jim Henson characters, these little imps.
*"[[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas Story]]"

== References ==
<references />

{{Sonichu}}
[[Category:Characters]]
[[Category:Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]]

Talk:Tomgirl Pictures

2011-05-17T22:11:02Z

SilentThunder: /* Jefferson quote */

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In case anyone's wondering, the images are called "TG#" because TomGirl. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

Note that both ears are pierced, not just the gay ear (see: cucumbers on eyes pic). Also, that's his real hair and the images aren't censored; he's wearing a g-string. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: Are they really pierced or are they those clip on/magnet ones?? Is there anyway we can tell?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:04, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:: They're real. Trust me. If they were clip ons, there would be more of an indent. I'm also pretty sure that clip ons are bigger. The ones I had as a kid certainly were, and I was pretty into those things. [[User:PedoforkBait|PedoforkBait]] 20:08, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::: That would make sense...I bet the ring/hoop ones are fake though, there's no hole for them in other pictures (unless he got them later). And why are they so oddly placed?? They aren't on the lobe like they should be...unless they've changed where they put them now (I got mine when I was 7). Or...could he have done them himself??? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:::: They are real. Also, I'm not aware of any way to have a stud clip-on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 20:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
*At this point, he's gotta be fucking with us. He wants to gross us out, so we don't bother him. --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 20:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: You think he pierced his ears to get us to leave him alone? [[User:PeachyKeen|PeachyKeen]] 20:20, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

He's using a real camara to take his picture in some of these, that's unusual. I wonder what the poor guy who had to develop them was thinking. O_o [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 20:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

The saddest thing about all this is that this didn't even suprise me in the slightest, I wasn't even mildly shocked to see Chris in drag, or even with a sock on his flacid manhood. --[[User:Gustofwind|Gustofwind]] 21:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: many are saying it isn't a sock...it's a g-string. You can't see the strings holding it up because of his gut roll over but when he does the picture of his butt, you can see the black thong part in the crack.....if you REALLY want to look that is. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

INFO, somebody has it. Where are the pictures from? Did he upload them somewhere? Or is it old stuff made public by trolls? --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:It's all recent and Clyde got it by hacking Chris' PSN. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 22:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::Excellent, this, coupled with the PSN being down, is probably the best chance we'll get at him returning. --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::PSN has been offline for a week all because of these photos, spread the word [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 22:15, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:::In the meantime, someone try to find an appropreate picture of King Hippo from the Captain N cartoon; he also crossdresses, and he's also a fat, useless, discolored retard.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:17, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

== Disturbing revelation ==

*[http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg This pic] raises several disturbing things. First off, If you look in the background, you see the journey's sign. Why does this matter you ask?
[http://www.simon.com/mall/MallDirectoryPrint.aspx?id=117 Fashion Square Mall Directory]
Journey's in the section labeled G on the map. Right near exact center of the mall, meaning he walked around like that near small children. It also explains where he might have picked up everything, for the women's Belk is right around the corner. The disturbing part is he walked around the mall a hop skip and a jump from where I work! And before you ask, no I didn't see him drag. Side note, he is wearing his ring again, see [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg this pic]. Also, there is a piercing pagoda in the mall. In summation, he got pierced, did up and bought his tranny clothes all in the mall most likely. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
: Is [http://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg this sign] somewhere in the mall? Is this part of some sort of cross-dressing awareness event, and is Chris just taking part? [[User:Turnabout|Turnabout]] 22:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
**It looks like the chalkboard Chris drew on in [[Chris's Big Night Out II]], which is in Charlottesville. That doesn't look like Chris's handwriting, so I think it's safe to assume he has a new, masculine gal-pal. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 10:25, 30 April 2011 (PDT)
*That chalkboard is the free speech wall on the downtown mall. You know where he did the sonichu dash vid? Same location. It's at the end down near the post office and right near a merry go round. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:20, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*Maybe something worth adding, additional horror: "Basically this is what Crystal would look like."--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 12:57, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

Is the chalkboard Jefferson quote Chris' handwriting? If it is, think we should pothole something about how his political views have so radically changed since his congressional address? By the way, who did the Silence of the Sonichus comic? Give him my praise. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]]
*probably not. It's the freespeech wall. Plus, given Chris's shitty handwriting, I doubt it.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:56, 7 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

== Sandals ==

A rather minor point I'm sure, but as someone who has worked in a shoe store, is it worth pointing out that those sandals are clearly too small for Chris? Possible as a caption under the thumbnail? [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 09:41, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:Chris is a cheap bastard who gets almost all his clothes (in fact, pretty much anything but his video game crap) second-hand; I don't think he's ever been very concerned with picking stuff that actually suits him (though whether this stuff "suits" Chris probably depends on the definition you're working with). As long as it goes on his ever-widening frame without garotting him, he's happy. Of course, maybe you can work a mention of it into the "Chris and Fashion" article... [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 10:48, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:: Yeah i figured, but that looks almost painful how small those are on him [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 14:37, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
::: Living Chris's life also looks pretty painful. He's too dense to notice either. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 15:08, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== So that surprise... ==

Do we still need that "So you know that surprise" picture on this page? I understand why it was there when this page was started but I'm not sure if it should stay. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:13, 5 May 2011 (PDT)
:My opinion counts for nothing, given my n00b status, but I'd say keep it. Adds some drama. --[[User:Redcynic|Redcynic]] 22:19, 5 May 2011 (PDT)
:When I uploaded the images, I wasn't really thinking and assumed that it was part of what had been found from Chris. I think that, as with all images of this sort, if there's a better version or a better image can be made that conveys a similar "message", it should be replaced. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 03:35, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
*I think for the sake of completeness, it should stay. Obviously the uploader of the images added this for a reason, perhaps to set the mood, and the uploader's artistic intent in presenting these images should be preserved.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:51, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

==Reversed images==

If you use the DSi's front camera that is in between the two screens, the picture will end up reversed like in Chris's pictures. I would upload a picture or something to show it, but I can't find my sd card -_-

Aside from that, I thought Chris had a camera?? I dunno why he'd stick to his DSi, unless he was planning on sticking around at the mall to use his old attraction techniques. Unlikely.

Probably. [[User:Brown kitty|Brown kitty]] 15:53, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
*Because Chris is a lazy fucker. Why bring a camera when he just use his always on hand DSI? Same reason he uses the PSEYE instead of a proper webcam. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:59, 7 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

== Tank top ==

Chris's tank top appears to be [http://www.kohls.com/kohlsStore/juniors/tops/tankscamis/PRD~751436/SO+Striped+Ribbed+Tank.jsp from Kohl's], the color he got is currently sold out so here's [http://resources.shopstyle.com/sim/bf/ab/bfabbd0c07bb40895e30c6cc1acd2f1d/kohls-tanks-so-striped-ribbed-tank.jpg another pic of it], although the colors don't line up the same, maybe it's different in the size he wears. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 23:57, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Puke Pic ==

Is the puke pic really necessary? Some of us find that worse than looking at Chris. [[User:Ewwww|Ewwww]] 13:13, 11 May 2011 (PDT)
*I agree it should be removed ----[[User:Observer|Observer]] 06:42, 12 May 2011 (PDT)
*In the future, just do it guys. If someone genuinely believes the article is better off with such a pic, they'll put it back. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:00, 12 May 2011 (PDT)

==Jefferson quote==
Should we point out the Jefferson quote? It seems to imply that Chris wrote the quote, when (in at least my earnest opinion) it just happened to be on the chalkboard above what Chris wrote (I believe we've established before that this some sort of communal chalkboard that anyone can write on).--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:00, 12 May 2011 (PDT)
*I say no, as for the chalkboard, [http://www.readthehook.com/71925/free-speech-wall-national-award Local paper article on the wall]. The jefferson quote is not not surprising, if memory serves, there is a big stone placard right near the wall with that same quote.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:18, 12 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
** I think it should be pointed out, but pointed out as not by Chris in order to avoid people thinking it relates in any way, shape, or form to Chris. [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 15:11, 17 May 2011 (PDT)

Talk:Tomgirl Pictures

2011-05-13T05:03:54Z

SilentThunder: grammar fail

In case anyone's wondering, the images are called "TG#" because TomGirl. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
* '''MY EYES!''' CAN NOT UNSEE! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)CFA

Is there ANY backstory to this?!? What I don't understand is that he 1) went into PUBLIC wearing this stuff (there's a picture of him at his mall) and 2) It looks like he shaved his underarms in one or two pictures...WHY?! Dear God why?! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 19:26, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
* Pretty sure he always shaved his underarms. I don't know why I know that. --[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 19:38, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:I guess you don't understand hygiene, 4Macie. That's besides esthetics. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 06:02, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*Yes but A. This is Chris, hygiene is a foreign word to him and B. Its aesthetics. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:35, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
:The article could use some clarification as to what the hell is going on here. There's gotta be some sort of story behind this. What's the deal? This is some of Chris's weirdest antics yet. Just when you think the lulcow ran dry... [[User:Abyssal|Abyssal]] 19:42, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

Note that both ears are pierced, not just the gay ear (see: cucumbers on eyes pic). Also, that's his real hair and the images aren't censored; he's wearing a g-string. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: Are they really pierced or are they those clip on/magnet ones?? Is there anyway we can tell?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:04, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:: They're real. Trust me. If they were clip ons, there would be more of an indent. I'm also pretty sure that clip ons are bigger. The ones I had as a kid certainly were, and I was pretty into those things. [[User:PedoforkBait|PedoforkBait]] 20:08, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::: That would make sense...I bet the ring/hoop ones are fake though, there's no hole for them in other pictures (unless he got them later). And why are they so oddly placed?? They aren't on the lobe like they should be...unless they've changed where they put them now (I got mine when I was 7). Or...could he have done them himself??? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:::: They are real. Also, I'm not aware of any way to have a stud clip-on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 20:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
*At this point, he's gotta be fucking with us. He wants to gross us out, so we don't bother him. --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 20:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: You think he pierced his ears to get us to leave him alone? [[User:PeachyKeen|PeachyKeen]] 20:20, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

He's using a real camara to take his picture in some of these, that's unusual. I wonder what the poor guy who had to develop them was thinking. O_o [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 20:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

This is probably a long shot, however I really think he did this for a girl. Most likely a girl who liked to dress up as a guy and wanted Chris to do the same. Or it's a really, really good troll. Either way, whoever made him do this is really good at what they do, because these pictures are FUCKING DISGUSTING. [[User:Mikau|Mikau]] 20:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: [[:File:TG3.jpg|"...when the government fears the people, there is liberty"]]. I'm sure this new heartsweet has her Guy Fawkes mask ready. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 02:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
* Let me tell you something, and like I said, this really isn't really the place to say it. But nonetheless, whenever I try to rationalize what Chris does, I usually get disappointed because the simple fact of the matter is - Chris is just fucked up.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

The saddest thing about all this is that this didn't even suprise me in the slightest, I wasn't even mildly shocked to see Chris in drag, or even with a sock on his flacid manhood. --[[User:Gustofwind|Gustofwind]] 21:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: many are saying it isn't a sock...it's a g-string. You can't see the strings holding it up because of his gut roll over but when he does the picture of his butt, you can see the black thong part in the crack.....if you REALLY want to look that is. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

Goddaemnd monkey-assed hell. Well, what do we do with this page? Start describing shit? In fuckin' ''detail''?! It could stand as is, like the CWCki's own personal 'shock page'...--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:00, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

INFO, somebody has it. Where are the pictures from? Did he upload them somewhere? Or is it old stuff made public by trolls? --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:It's all recent and Clyde got it by hacking Chris' PSN. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 22:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::Excellent, this, coupled with the PSN being down, is probably the best chance we'll get at him returning. --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::PSN has been offline for a week all because of these photos, spread the word [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 22:15, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:::In the meantime, someone try to find an appropreate picture of King Hippo from the Captain N cartoon; he also crossdresses, and he's also a fat, useless, discolored retard.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:17, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

In some of these, he looks uncannily like a fat version of Buffalo Bill. [[User:Vulture-chan|Vulture-chan]] 22:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

I was about to ask if the PSN take down made him go further down the crazy hole o_o [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:Chris has been at this a while, and you can tell because growing out hair takes a while. The PSN going down was coincidence. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 00:49, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
I also love the claims that he is "straight". Yeah, Chris is as "straight" as a circle >_> [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:34, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: Circle? Try "ampersand." --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:25, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

here's something everybody should think about: chris is wearing his mom's clothes. i mean surely he didn't pay for any of this shit when there are MOUNTAINS of free clothes blocking up whole rooms of his house. [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 00:36, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
:Already wore his mum's underwear that one time. Wouldn't be a new thing for him. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 01:19, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

I wonder if Bob has caught this yet. [[User:Westbound|Westbound]] 05:08, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

*Guys, please, remember - this page is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. Srsly, I told you fuckers that that ModNation Racer character wasn't Crystal.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:22, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

Anyone with some solid info about this? Do this is a new saga? Who asked him to dress that way? Do we got any metadata linked to the picture so we can have time/date info? This is the best update for months and we got so little info on it. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 06:00, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*I can talk to Tito about getting the raw images so we can get some metadata behind these.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 30 April 2011 (PDT)
*Could he be trying to be Crystal the Imaginary Twin sister? He tends to stick to the stripey clothing and jeans, which is pretty much what she wore [[User:PoppyPink|PoppyPink]] 00:24, 30 April 2011 (GMT)

*This is pure speculation, but do you think it's Mic, the one girl he talked about in the Autism Tutorial?--[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 07:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

The updates are few an far between, but when they come, they are fascinating. I especially like how the Sailor Moon poster is in some of the the pics. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 17:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

This is going to kill Bob. Chris has evolved into a Snorlax. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 04:01, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

Well, there goes the theory of "Chris actually got his shit together and has begun leading a semi-normal life". [[User: GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:02, 1 May 2011 (EST)

== Disturbing revelation ==

*[http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg This pic] raises several disturbing things. First off, If you look in the background, you see the journey's sign. Why does this matter you ask?
[http://www.simon.com/mall/MallDirectoryPrint.aspx?id=117 Fashion Square Mall Directory]
Journey's in the section labeled G on the map. Right near exact center of the mall, meaning he walked around like that near small children. It also explains where he might have picked up everything, for the women's Belk is right around the corner. The disturbing part is he walked around the mall a hop skip and a jump from where I work! And before you ask, no I didn't see him drag. Side note, he is wearing his ring again, see [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg this pic]. Also, there is a piercing pagoda in the mall. In summation, he got pierced, did up and bought his tranny clothes all in the mall most likely. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
: Is [http://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg this sign] somewhere in the mall? Is this part of some sort of cross-dressing awareness event, and is Chris just taking part? [[User:Turnabout|Turnabout]] 22:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
**It looks like the chalkboard Chris drew on in [[Chris's Big Night Out II]], which is in Charlottesville. That doesn't look like Chris's handwriting, so I think it's safe to assume he has a new, masculine gal-pal. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 10:25, 30 April 2011 (PDT)
*That chalkboard is the free speech wall on the downtown mall. You know where he did the sonichu dash vid? Same location. It's at the end down near the post office and right near a merry go round. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:20, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*Maybe something worth adding, additional horror: "Basically this is what Crystal would look like."--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 12:57, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

== Info? ==

Is there ANY background to this? Like: where did he get the term "TomGirl" and why does he think it means to dress up like a girl? (aka: this is cross-dressing...not being a "TomGirl") I guess it was said that this was hacked off his PS3 (PSN)..but WHY was it there in the first place?? He obviously took them for someone...he wouldn't have taken pictures of himself in drag if it was solely for his own viewing...would he??? I guess..
TL;DR: Is there any information about this??? Someone has to know something! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
* Well [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomgirl Wikipedia] Explains a tomgirl is a reverse tomboy, a guy who acts girly, a femboi in essence is a tomgirl. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 21:06, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
::Hmmm...well that's a start. Though I think Chris took this one a little too far for it to still be "TomGirl"ish... Now we just need the WHY I guess. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:11, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
:::For the love of fuck just shut up and wait for the inevitable infodump that will explain everything.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:28, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
::::*True, though pretty much what's going on has already been explained by [[Tito]] [http://789chan.org/cwc/res/53442.html here]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:19, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

*Sweet merciful Jesus, he..he finally snapped, or he finally accepted it, just...wow. [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 21:32, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

Is the chalkboard Jefferson quote Chris' handwriting? If it is, think we should pothole something about how his political views have so radically changed since his congressional address? By the way, who did the Silence of the Sonichus comic? Give him my praise. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]]
*probably not. It's the freespeech wall. Plus, given Chris's shitty handwriting, I doubt it.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:56, 7 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

== Preexisting gender determination issues ==

There is so fucking much up with this guy I don't even know where to start, but cross-dressing is the tip of the fucking iceberg here. CWC genuinely has no masculine features except his receding hairline, and his fat distribution and build are very effeminate. (Not feminine - he looks androgynous leaning away from male.) The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.

The thing here is to compare Chris to relatively masculine fatasses. Moobs that size on masculine men are usually accompanied by a pretty big stomach, and while CWC's breasts are obviously almost 100% the result of fat distribution, a massive amount of his excess fat is in typically female areas, i.e. hips, thighs, ass, etc.

The other side of the coin is that CWC has a lot of the features of abandoned or half-hearted male feminization - box tits with flat, weird nipples; an extremely protruberant but generally formless ass; the general fat and body pattern of a long post-menopause woman. In short, these people look like the Snorlax (as CWC has begun to) because, like her, the last major influence on their secondary sexual features is still high estrogen levels that are no longer significant enough to have a major effect.
Other relevant features of male-to-female transition, either medically or anecdotally ubiquitous, are the softening of body hair, the mild regrowth of scalp hair, emotional upheaval, sexual dysfunction, and massive mood swings. The last three of those are also attributable to testosterone therapy in patients with previously low testosterone levels.

I'm not saying I'm sure there's some kind of congenital or external source of hormone problems for sure, but it seems pretty likely to me that either he was on testosterone for a brief period in response to an indifferent puberty from some sexual condition (possibly explaining his sudden and totally incomplete sexual awakening at 16) or he was, at some point between then and now, medicated with anti-androgens or even some kind of low-level female hormone regimen, either clinically or domestically. (There are reasons that were then and are partially now considered medically reasonable for doing that - chemical castration, for one, for instance when a poorly-managed autistic teenager develops a raging and violently-ideated libido - but God only knows why things happen under that fucking roof.)

TL,DR: Chris might have girl parts and either his parents fucked with his endocrine system at a young age or things with his new boyfriend-free heartsweet are going to get weirder before they make perfect sense.
I've been suspicious of this since his first nudes went up, and this is just icing on the cake. And if you guys think he's a lulcow while he's trying to be a man...

:nah he's just a dumb fatty -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 02:41, 1 May 2011 (PDT)
::I have to agree with Acousticvirgin on this. While your theory is quite interesting...most of this can be explain just by looking at Chris and his family. Chris's family had him at a really old age. His mom was almost in menopause and his father was already a senior citizen. The father at such an old age could be a factor in Autism (it's a scientific theory) and his mother having him so close to menopause could be the reason for any hormonal imbalance (it's a scientific fact that when women are older when a child is born that hormonal imbalances can occur, ESPECIALLY if that older woman doesn't take the prenatal vitamins...). The fat distribution of Chris can be explain by either the hormonal imbalance or by the fact that he doesn't really move all the much, much less work out (or both combined). If you look at pictures of him in his HighSchool years he's a LOT thinner...most likely due to a high metabolism since he didn't work out and wasn't in sports. With his age he's either lost that metabolism or he's out-eating it, either is a possibility. The fact that he doesn't work out at all and doesn't really move around all that much means that there's going to be limited muscles there and much more fat. His arms are skinny because men usually don't get a whole bunch of fat there; his legs are kinda chunky, but men get that too. His butt, gut, and thighs are fat simply because that's where the fat goes. Now, the manboobs. Some men get moobs whether or not they have some gender issue...Chris on the other hand has a set that is way too big to be normal. This could be because of the hormonal imbalance from birth, OR because he doesn't work that muscle out at all. Most men do some form of exercise for that muscle whether or not they go to the gym. They lift things, they carry things, or just daily movement will work out the pectorals for men. The fact that this particular muscle gets NO exercise or movement from Chris could mean that the pectorals are much more fat than muscle. His sexual inexperience until 16 can be explained by parenting and by his autism. His parents never had any reason to discuss his puberty with him so he never really understood sex or masturbation until he saw it in a movie, and now that he does, he still only does it 1 or 2 times a week...quite abnormal for a boy/man from puberty to about 40 years old (age after puberty varies of course). Some autistics are asexual and never have sex throughout their lives because they don't understand sex nor do they really understand/want any kind of romantic relationship. The fact that Chris wants one so badly means nothing; he's shown that he doesn't really understand relationships and treats them like a 8 year old would. ===> TL,DR: Chris's parents had him at too old an age, that along with the fact that he's overweight and doesn't work out at all has made him who he is today... and more likely than not...it'll only get worse. (These pictures show an increased weight since the last time we've seen him; especially in the face and chest.) And Chris wants sex just because he doesn't want the title VIRGIN, he really has no sex drive.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:17, 1 May 2011 (PDT)
:::Now, we have to remember that Chris is very simple. When he had to choose between his console and his galpal, and he chose the galpal, he demanded to have the consol as well, because he did the right thing. Just like in the movies. Chris doesn't necessarily understand love or attraction, he merely knows that relationship is a good thing, and it should be desired. In his simple mind, a relationship with a woman means perfect, neverending happiness that will fix all his problems. [[User:Vergilius|Vergilius]] 13:08, 1 May 2011 (PDT)

*I'm inclined to agree with Acousticvirgin here as well. I think a more plausible explanation though, is that due to DA [[autism|AUTISM]], Chris doesn't understand gender as a construct very well and so goes crazy with it. Or Chris could just be stupid. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:55, 2 May 2011 (PDT)

:Interesting theory, but I disagree with it. Klinefelter's patients tend to have unnatural looking body proportions (extremely long limbs, wide hips, short torsos), and have normal levels of intelligence (remember, Chris was on the Honor Roll). I don't think his bizarre fat deposits are caused by any meiotic disorder like Klinefelter's, but rather terrible diet fucking with his body, raising his estrogen levels, and causing him to develop gynecomastia. Once that happens, it causes him to have female-like fat deposits. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:01, 1 May 2011 (EST)

*My two cents, for what it's worth. The moobs appear to be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynecomastia Gynecomastia] In short, estrogen made him grow boobs. Estrogen would also explain why his voice is in the annoyingly high pitched range. As for [http://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Klinefelter's_syndrome Klienfelter's Syndrome], the man child does in fact track rather well. Compare to this [http://www.andrologyjournal.org/content/vol29/issue6/images/large/andr-29-6-605-f01.jpeg Pic of man with Klienfilter's syndrome]. Thing is,[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditions_comorbid_to_autism_spectrum_disorders Autism is comorbid], so odds are it isn't just autism. In summation, odds are Chris has da autism and some kind of glandular disorder. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:43, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
----Oh, and here I thought that point had already been shot down half a dozen other times and people’d actually read other bad theories before posting theirs. There's absolutely no sense to this theory, or for that matter anything remotely empiric behind it, but plenty plain to sight that shows it's impossible: Only people who don’t understand how gene expression and hormones work could think it makes sense. I don’t know where to start, there’s so much nonsence in that theory I might as well start picking it out.
> ''fat distribution and build are very effeminate...''
:What? Really, and here I thought comparing photos with a baseline would be easy, even for e-doctors. There’s hardly anything about that fat distribution that’s female. The fat went almost exclusively to his abdomen when he was just [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Cwcbraorig.JPG overweight], that’s the type of adipose distribution you get with testosterone. What’s more, the manboobs are dead common in obese men, you’re not just going to get the visceral [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:WantWoman.jpg FA5] type gut fat, but also tit fat, so by your standards [http://img.wikinut.com/img/4-hz_myuqu_9-u51/jpeg/0/Serious-obesity.jpeg fatguy here’s a dickgirl]. The fact that excess estrogens and mostly androgens(which worsen that acne) wind up being made by all that extra fat isn’t intersex.
''>he looks androgynous leaning away from male.''
:And just how? A prominent [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:100_2296.JPG gablela/brow] isn’t gender neutral, neither is his [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG21.jpg square morphing into a pear face shape], he certainly has no problem in growing facial hair as these last photos show, his jawline isn’t slender even if the fat makes it hard to make out, that nose is kind of big & like the other features testosterone promotes their growth. Oh and his hairline is quite [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg high] around the temples and frontal, another manly trait. His face isn’t androgynous or gender neutral at all.
>''The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.''
:It’s all wrong. If it actually were a urogenital intersex condition it’d have almost certainly been handled in a hospital by specialists, given how surgery is screened to more qualified MD, the chance of a inept hick doctor is nil. Never mind the fact that his dick doesn’t look like what you normally get from the infant sex assignment, and that his body certainly doesn’t match the phenotype you’d get with 5ARD Kleifeters or PAIS. The whole bit about his hairline ,[http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/a/ad/Personalprofile.jpg acne] and facial structure being too [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/6/67/0793-CWCIs24-2.jpg androgenized] and all.
Probably the most important thing about it all is that '''Autism is not something that correlates with estrogen'''. [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3040206/ Testosterone has a demonstrated casual role] in altering the expressions of genes to induce it, where as estrogen prevents it. Also Cohen’s research indicates that there is a very strong correlation for biomarkers indicating increased testosterone exposure/sensitivity and autism. So no, the idea of Chris being Estrogen dominant and ASD is nonsence. I could keep going on point by point on everything that’s wrong with this theory, but I think the point’s certainly been made. This theory keeps coming from people who just don't get how it works, so an overkill was in need.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:14, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
----

*The prominent nipples are a dead giveaway to gyncomastia. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:21, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
:Have you ever looked at a fat man? Their nipples are enlarged, it's something that's induced by the adipose building up there, that's pseudogyncomastia. Unless if he's been sneaking his mother's premarin there isn't going to be much in the way of nodules there. It's possible that the adipose leads to more hormones and aromatase makes some of them into estrogen, but that's a common enough thing in the obese. It's an analogue to that why they also have higher DHT levels.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:25, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
:Which leads back to the crux of the question, is his moobs due to him being a fatass or him being a fatass makes him have moobs? Either way, he clearly has hormone issues. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 13:28, 3 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*cool theory doc but have you considered that he is a fat dummy who is fat and dumb and smells like dumb fat -Dr.[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 20:56, 2 May 2011 (PDT)

== Congratulations ==

Congratulations Chris (Or should I say Christina) You have finally come to terms with your sexuality and gender issues. The road ahead may still be windy but at least now you can be happy its the right track. I've never seen you so happy and content and this all of your doing. no manipulation here.

You might find love now that you have found yourself.

Go forth my Child.
--[[User:Bentduck|Bentduck]] 19:02, 1 May 2011 (PDT)

== Seriously guys ==

Next person who posts something not related to improving this page gets (temporarily) banned. This is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:53, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
* Well, don't know if it should be added to the picture captions but on the pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg A] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG4.jpg B] They are taken on the downtown mall. Pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg C] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg D] were taken in the Fashion Square mall, where the piercing pagoda is. And Finally, [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg Picture C] he is wearing his high school ring it but can't really tell. Unsure if linking to the downtown mall and the fashion square mall would be uneeded piping. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:50, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
* It might be worthwhile to note the bizarre horizontal flipping of some images. [[User:Smokedaddy|Smokedaddy]] 01:01, 3 May 2011 (PDT)

== Contactin' C for article material ==
Mmkay, well, do we still have Chris's email address? Can we still reach him on online chats or whatever? Is there no way someone can get hold of him and gently interrogate him about HOLY CRAP CHRIS WHAT THE FUCK and add some substance and reasoning to the insanity displayed on this page? I'm sure he won't mind the attention. I'd volunteer, but, uh, Chris fucking scares me. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 12:22, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
:<s>If only we'd thought of that sooner. I'll contact all the trolls and let them know.</s> Chris doesn't answer emails or phonecalls. He's virtually impossible to contact unless you already have a foot in the door. If you did contact Chris, he would be largely unresponsive and then ignore you. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:27, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
::Mmmkay, fair enough. How about friends/family/people unfortunate to exist in Chris's general vicinity? The freak went out in public like this; somebody has to know something. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 10:44, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:::*Lurk moar.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:53, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
::::Mmm. I used to be so good at it. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 15:08, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Sandals ==

A rather minor point I'm sure, but as someone who has worked in a shoe store, is it worth pointing out that those sandals are clearly too small for Chris? Possible as a caption under the thumbnail? [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 09:41, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:Chris is a cheap bastard who gets almost all his clothes (in fact, pretty much anything but his video game crap) second-hand; I don't think he's ever been very concerned with picking stuff that actually suits him (though whether this stuff "suits" Chris probably depends on the definition you're working with). As long as it goes on his ever-widening frame without garotting him, he's happy. Of course, maybe you can work a mention of it into the "Chris and Fashion" article... [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 10:48, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:: Yeah i figured, but that looks almost painful how small those are on him [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 14:37, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
::: Living Chris's life also looks pretty painful. He's too dense to notice either. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 15:08, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== So that surprise... ==

Do we still need that "So you know that surprise" picture on this page? I understand why it was there when this page was started but I'm not sure if it should stay. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:13, 5 May 2011 (PDT)
:My opinion counts for nothing, given my n00b status, but I'd say keep it. Adds some drama. --[[User:Redcynic|Redcynic]] 22:19, 5 May 2011 (PDT)
:When I uploaded the images, I wasn't really thinking and assumed that it was part of what had been found from Chris. I think that, as with all images of this sort, if there's a better version or a better image can be made that conveys a similar "message", it should be replaced. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 03:35, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
*I think for the sake of completeness, it should stay. Obviously the uploader of the images added this for a reason, perhaps to set the mood, and the uploader's artistic intent in presenting these images should be preserved.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:51, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

==Reversed images==

If you use the DSi's front camera that is in between the two screens, the picture will end up reversed like in Chris's pictures. I would upload a picture or something to show it, but I can't find my sd card -_-

Aside from that, I thought Chris had a camera?? I dunno why he'd stick to his DSi, unless he was planning on sticking around at the mall to use his old attraction techniques. Unlikely.

Probably. [[User:Brown kitty|Brown kitty]] 15:53, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
*Because Chris is a lazy fucker. Why bring a camera when he just use his always on hand DSI? Same reason he uses the PSEYE instead of a proper webcam. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:59, 7 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

==The "Silver Ring" Thing==

Are we sure about the whole "Silver Ring of Purity" thing? It looks quite far fetched, including the idea that Chris's stance on [[F Abstinance|abstinence]].It just looks like his high school ring all over again. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:24, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

==The Asperchu Medallion==

When did this happen? Is Chris still making medallions? Has he not given up on Sonichu? Why Asperchu? He hates Asperchu.
: [[02 March 2010|lurk moar]] --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 21:08, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Tank top ==

Chris's tank top appears to be [http://www.kohls.com/kohlsStore/juniors/tops/tankscamis/PRD~751436/SO+Striped+Ribbed+Tank.jsp from Kohl's], the color he got is currently sold out so here's [http://resources.shopstyle.com/sim/bf/ab/bfabbd0c07bb40895e30c6cc1acd2f1d/kohls-tanks-so-striped-ribbed-tank.jpg another pic of it], although the colors don't line up the same, maybe it's different in the size he wears. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 23:57, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Cost of his Ensamble ==

Looking at a few of his items, It seems like Chris's outfit is not exactly expensive. For instance, that nail polish is $0.99 Wal-Mart brand. Not sure if this is even relavent to the page, but I think it would be interesting to figure out how much All his stuff would cost. Perhaps as a single sentance in Chris and Money, or Chris and Fashion perhaps? --[[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 11:06, 8 May 2011 (PDT)
* It's Chris we are talking about. Assume that he paid 5$ for the whole outfit at Goodwill. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 11:20, 8 May 2011 (PDT)
** Fair enough --[[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 11:31, 8 May 2011 (PDT)

== How long has he been toying with 'Tomgirl'? ==

A picture from CWC's "Sonichu Episode 1" LBP level, taken about a month ago: http://lbp.me/p/0gqk21 --[[User:Henry Bemis|Henry Bemis]] 23:00, 9 May 2011 (PDT)
:He always had that "female equivalent" thing going on with that imaginary twin sister of his. Chris's mind is a typhoon of incomprehensible insanity (and, probably, reams of potential psychological theses); could've been building up for years for all we know. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 06:40, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
:: Don't forget that he's always thought that girls should play with "boy toys" like Transformers and boys should play with "girl toys" like My Little Pony. And I quote, "if you're a young gentlemen, I suggest you buy yourself a...My Little Pony figurine, of your favorite color...or whatever. Stroking the hair of said pony, is very relaxing..like rubbing it against your cheek." He thinks this will help you understand the ladies. And the "girls should get Transformers to understand how a boy works..." <= that's from the future message video he made 2-3 years ago. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 07:56, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
:Chris didn't do that. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 09:34, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
::* Chris didn't do what?? Everything mentioned up til this point of this section has been true... :P --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 16:32, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
::for people who haven't played littlepigblanket... anyone can go into a level and attach shit to other shit and take photos of it. so it was one of chris's many fans who made sonichu into a transvestite just to be funny, unaware that that this photo would actually give chris a boner -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 16:41, 10 May 2011 (PDT)

*This might explain a bit of Chris's sexual issues. If he is transgendered/transexual (Can never remember which is which), then it would explain why he acts the way he does and his obsession with crystal. If truly transgender, he would fantasize about having sex with guys but as a woman and not a gay man. Given Chris's general 'tard tendencies, he may not realize he is not gay but simply wanting to be a female. Food for thought.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:26, 10 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
** "Transsexual" is written with two S, but no, I don't think it's the case. (And totally not just because I don't want Chris to make transsexuals look bad.) His identity is too obviously masculine, even grotesquely so. Not to mention his persistent misogyny; if he thinks women are little more than shopping-obsessed sex-dispensing automata, why would he want to be one? - [[User:LucidFox|LucidFox]] 18:37, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
*** Lucid, I just want to point out that, in a way, Chris conformed to those female stereotypes. Perhaps I'm just being slow in the mind but isn't that exactly what he'd want to be? --[[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 22:05, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
:Same reason preachers revile gay sterotypes on sunday and suck dick on monday. Maybe he just likes cross dressing.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:00, 10 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*I really think we need to just say it like it is. Chris does this in the hopes of getting "china". He heard somewhere that "tomboys" are defined as ___________ and came to his own conclusion (as he's known to do... EXAMPLE: Recycling his navy gravy...) that a "tomgirl" would be defined as...well you've seen the pictures and that tomboys would like tomgirls because they "go together". It's for china people, there's no other motive. Chris doesn't want to "be a woman" and he's not trying to be "Crystal". He just wants china and thought this would help him get it...all that's left to know is: Did he do this all by himself? Or is this a new sweetheart sega? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:10, 10 May 2011 (PDT)

*While Henry Barnes's original comment is at least somewhat relevant, as it could in theory flesh out the article, the rest of this is chatter that does nothing to improve the article. As a result, 4Macie, CFA, SilentThunder, and LucidFox have been banned for a day for violating the [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]] policy.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:05, 11 May 2011 (PDT)

== Puke Pic ==

Is the puke pic really necessary? Some of us find that worse than looking at Chris. [[User:Ewwww|Ewwww]] 13:13, 11 May 2011 (PDT)
*I agree it should be removed ----[[User:Observer|Observer]] 06:42, 12 May 2011 (PDT)
*In the future, just do it guys. If someone genuinely believes the article is better off with such a pic, they'll put it back. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:00, 12 May 2011 (PDT)

==Jefferson quote==
Should we point out the Jefferson quote? It seems to imply that Chris wrote the quote, when (in at least my earnest opinion) it just happened to be on the chalkboard above what Chris wrote (I believe we've established before that this some sort of communal chalkboard that anyone can write on).--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:00, 12 May 2011 (PDT)
*I say no, as for the chalkboard, [http://www.readthehook.com/71925/free-speech-wall-national-award Local paper article on the wall]. The jefferson quote is not not surprising, if memory serves, there is a big stone placard right near the wall with that same quote.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:18, 12 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

== Transgender symbol ==

How the hell did Chris find the [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/A_TransGender-Symbol_Plain3.svg transgender symbol?]. Note both on the mod racer pic and the chalkboard pic he drew the symbol.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:24, 12 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
: Since Chris got neither imagination or insight, I will assume that somebody asked him to do it. Looks like we will have to wait a little to know all the details. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 15:33, 12 May 2011 (PDT)

*or Someone told him, I doubt Chris even thought such a symbol existed, there is more this then Tito lets on. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:17, 12 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
** He didn't draw the upper-left arrow. What he drew was a straight (no pun intended) combination of the male and female symbols, which is something Chris could have come up with on his own. - [[User:LucidFox|LucidFox]] 20:29, 12 May 2011 (PDT)
::*I think this is the most likely explanation. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:45, 12 May 2011 (PDT)

== Talk Page archive ==

Looking at how fast this talk page has bloated, anyone else think mabye we should start considering archiving the current page and starting a new one? --[[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 22:02, 12 May 2011 (PDT)

Talk:Tomgirl Pictures

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In case anyone's wondering, the images are called "TG#" because TomGirl. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
* '''MY EYES!''' CAN NOT UNSEE! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)CFA

Is there ANY backstory to this?!? What I don't understand is that he 1) went into PUBLIC wearing this stuff (there's a picture of him at his mall) and 2) It looks like he shaved his underarms in one or two pictures...WHY?! Dear God why?! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 19:26, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
* Pretty sure he always shaved his underarms. I don't know why I know that. --[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 19:38, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:I guess you don't understand hygiene, 4Macie. That's besides esthetics. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 06:02, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*Yes but A. This is Chris, hygiene is a foreign word to him and B. Its aesthetics. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:35, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
:The article could use some clarification as to what the hell is going on here. There's gotta be some sort of story behind this. What's the deal? This is some of Chris's weirdest antics yet. Just when you think the lulcow ran dry... [[User:Abyssal|Abyssal]] 19:42, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

Note that both ears are pierced, not just the gay ear (see: cucumbers on eyes pic). Also, that's his real hair and the images aren't censored; he's wearing a g-string. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: Are they really pierced or are they those clip on/magnet ones?? Is there anyway we can tell?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:04, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:: They're real. Trust me. If they were clip ons, there would be more of an indent. I'm also pretty sure that clip ons are bigger. The ones I had as a kid certainly were, and I was pretty into those things. [[User:PedoforkBait|PedoforkBait]] 20:08, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::: That would make sense...I bet the ring/hoop ones are fake though, there's no hole for them in other pictures (unless he got them later). And why are they so oddly placed?? They aren't on the lobe like they should be...unless they've changed where they put them now (I got mine when I was 7). Or...could he have done them himself??? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:::: They are real. Also, I'm not aware of any way to have a stud clip-on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 20:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
*At this point, he's gotta be fucking with us. He wants to gross us out, so we don't bother him. --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 20:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: You think he pierced his ears to get us to leave him alone? [[User:PeachyKeen|PeachyKeen]] 20:20, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

He's using a real camara to take his picture in some of these, that's unusual. I wonder what the poor guy who had to develop them was thinking. O_o [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 20:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

This is probably a long shot, however I really think he did this for a girl. Most likely a girl who liked to dress up as a guy and wanted Chris to do the same. Or it's a really, really good troll. Either way, whoever made him do this is really good at what they do, because these pictures are FUCKING DISGUSTING. [[User:Mikau|Mikau]] 20:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: [[:File:TG3.jpg|"...when the government fears the people, there is liberty"]]. I'm sure this new heartsweet has her Guy Fawkes mask ready. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 02:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
* Let me tell you something, and like I said, this really isn't really the place to say it. But nonetheless, whenever I try to rationalize what Chris does, I usually get disappointed because the simple fact of the matter is - Chris is just fucked up.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

The saddest thing about all this is that this didn't even suprise me in the slightest, I wasn't even mildly shocked to see Chris in drag, or even with a sock on his flacid manhood. --[[User:Gustofwind|Gustofwind]] 21:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: many are saying it isn't a sock...it's a g-string. You can't see the strings holding it up because of his gut roll over but when he does the picture of his butt, you can see the black thong part in the crack.....if you REALLY want to look that is. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

Goddaemnd monkey-assed hell. Well, what do we do with this page? Start describing shit? In fuckin' ''detail''?! It could stand as is, like the CWCki's own personal 'shock page'...--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:00, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

INFO, somebody has it. Where are the pictures from? Did he upload them somewhere? Or is it old stuff made public by trolls? --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:It's all recent and Clyde got it by hacking Chris' PSN. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 22:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::Excellent, this, coupled with the PSN being down, is probably the best chance we'll get at him returning. --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::PSN has been offline for a week all because of these photos, spread the word [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 22:15, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:::In the meantime, someone try to find an appropreate picture of King Hippo from the Captain N cartoon; he also crossdresses, and he's also a fat, useless, discolored retard.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:17, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

In some of these, he looks uncannily like a fat version of Buffalo Bill. [[User:Vulture-chan|Vulture-chan]] 22:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

I was about to ask if the PSN take down made him go further down the crazy hole o_o [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:Chris has been at this a while, and you can tell because growing out hair takes a while. The PSN going down was coincidence. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 00:49, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
I also love the claims that he is "straight". Yeah, Chris is as "straight" as a circle >_> [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:34, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: Circle? Try "ampersand." --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:25, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

here's something everybody should think about: chris is wearing his mom's clothes. i mean surely he didn't pay for any of this shit when there are MOUNTAINS of free clothes blocking up whole rooms of his house. [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 00:36, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
:Already wore his mum's underwear that one time. Wouldn't be a new thing for him. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 01:19, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

I wonder if Bob has caught this yet. [[User:Westbound|Westbound]] 05:08, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

*Guys, please, remember - this page is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. Srsly, I told you fuckers that that ModNation Racer character wasn't Crystal.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:22, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

Anyone with some solid info about this? Do this is a new saga? Who asked him to dress that way? Do we got any metadata linked to the picture so we can have time/date info? This is the best update for months and we got so little info on it. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 06:00, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*I can talk to Tito about getting the raw images so we can get some metadata behind these.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 30 April 2011 (PDT)
*Could he be trying to be Crystal the Imaginary Twin sister? He tends to stick to the stripey clothing and jeans, which is pretty much what she wore [[User:PoppyPink|PoppyPink]] 00:24, 30 April 2011 (GMT)

*This is pure speculation, but do you think it's Mic, the one girl he talked about in the Autism Tutorial?--[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 07:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

The updates are few an far between, but when they come, they are fascinating. I especially like how the Sailor Moon poster is in some of the the pics. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 17:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

This is going to kill Bob. Chris has evolved into a Snorlax. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 04:01, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

Well, there goes the theory of "Chris actually got his shit together and has begun leading a semi-normal life". [[User: GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:02, 1 May 2011 (EST)

== Disturbing revelation ==

*[http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg This pic] raises several disturbing things. First off, If you look in the background, you see the journey's sign. Why does this matter you ask?
[http://www.simon.com/mall/MallDirectoryPrint.aspx?id=117 Fashion Square Mall Directory]
Journey's in the section labeled G on the map. Right near exact center of the mall, meaning he walked around like that near small children. It also explains where he might have picked up everything, for the women's Belk is right around the corner. The disturbing part is he walked around the mall a hop skip and a jump from where I work! And before you ask, no I didn't see him drag. Side note, he is wearing his ring again, see [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg this pic]. Also, there is a piercing pagoda in the mall. In summation, he got pierced, did up and bought his tranny clothes all in the mall most likely. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
: Is [http://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg this sign] somewhere in the mall? Is this part of some sort of cross-dressing awareness event, and is Chris just taking part? [[User:Turnabout|Turnabout]] 22:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
**It looks like the chalkboard Chris drew on in [[Chris's Big Night Out II]], which is in Charlottesville. That doesn't look like Chris's handwriting, so I think it's safe to assume he has a new, masculine gal-pal. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 10:25, 30 April 2011 (PDT)
*That chalkboard is the free speech wall on the downtown mall. You know where he did the sonichu dash vid? Same location. It's at the end down near the post office and right near a merry go round. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:20, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*Maybe something worth adding, additional horror: "Basically this is what Crystal would look like."--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 12:57, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

== Info? ==

Is there ANY background to this? Like: where did he get the term "TomGirl" and why does he think it means to dress up like a girl? (aka: this is cross-dressing...not being a "TomGirl") I guess it was said that this was hacked off his PS3 (PSN)..but WHY was it there in the first place?? He obviously took them for someone...he wouldn't have taken pictures of himself in drag if it was solely for his own viewing...would he??? I guess..
TL;DR: Is there any information about this??? Someone has to know something! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
* Well [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomgirl Wikipedia] Explains a tomgirl is a reverse tomboy, a guy who acts girly, a femboi in essence is a tomgirl. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 21:06, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
::Hmmm...well that's a start. Though I think Chris took this one a little too far for it to still be "TomGirl"ish... Now we just need the WHY I guess. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:11, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
:::For the love of fuck just shut up and wait for the inevitable infodump that will explain everything.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:28, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
::::*True, though pretty much what's going on has already been explained by [[Tito]] [http://789chan.org/cwc/res/53442.html here]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:19, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

*Sweet merciful Jesus, he..he finally snapped, or he finally accepted it, just...wow. [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 21:32, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

Is the chalkboard Jefferson quote Chris' handwriting? If it is, think we should pothole something about how his political views have so radically changed since his congressional address? By the way, who did the Silence of the Sonichus comic? Give him my praise. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]]
*probably not. It's the freespeech wall. Plus, given Chris's shitty handwriting, I doubt it.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:56, 7 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

== Preexisting gender determination issues ==

There is so fucking much up with this guy I don't even know where to start, but cross-dressing is the tip of the fucking iceberg here. CWC genuinely has no masculine features except his receding hairline, and his fat distribution and build are very effeminate. (Not feminine - he looks androgynous leaning away from male.) The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.

The thing here is to compare Chris to relatively masculine fatasses. Moobs that size on masculine men are usually accompanied by a pretty big stomach, and while CWC's breasts are obviously almost 100% the result of fat distribution, a massive amount of his excess fat is in typically female areas, i.e. hips, thighs, ass, etc.

The other side of the coin is that CWC has a lot of the features of abandoned or half-hearted male feminization - box tits with flat, weird nipples; an extremely protruberant but generally formless ass; the general fat and body pattern of a long post-menopause woman. In short, these people look like the Snorlax (as CWC has begun to) because, like her, the last major influence on their secondary sexual features is still high estrogen levels that are no longer significant enough to have a major effect.
Other relevant features of male-to-female transition, either medically or anecdotally ubiquitous, are the softening of body hair, the mild regrowth of scalp hair, emotional upheaval, sexual dysfunction, and massive mood swings. The last three of those are also attributable to testosterone therapy in patients with previously low testosterone levels.

I'm not saying I'm sure there's some kind of congenital or external source of hormone problems for sure, but it seems pretty likely to me that either he was on testosterone for a brief period in response to an indifferent puberty from some sexual condition (possibly explaining his sudden and totally incomplete sexual awakening at 16) or he was, at some point between then and now, medicated with anti-androgens or even some kind of low-level female hormone regimen, either clinically or domestically. (There are reasons that were then and are partially now considered medically reasonable for doing that - chemical castration, for one, for instance when a poorly-managed autistic teenager develops a raging and violently-ideated libido - but God only knows why things happen under that fucking roof.)

TL,DR: Chris might have girl parts and either his parents fucked with his endocrine system at a young age or things with his new boyfriend-free heartsweet are going to get weirder before they make perfect sense.
I've been suspicious of this since his first nudes went up, and this is just icing on the cake. And if you guys think he's a lulcow while he's trying to be a man...

:nah he's just a dumb fatty -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 02:41, 1 May 2011 (PDT)
::I have to agree with Acousticvirgin on this. While your theory is quite interesting...most of this can be explain just by looking at Chris and his family. Chris's family had him at a really old age. His mom was almost in menopause and his father was already a senior citizen. The father at such an old age could be a factor in Autism (it's a scientific theory) and his mother having him so close to menopause could be the reason for any hormonal imbalance (it's a scientific fact that when women are older when a child is born that hormonal imbalances can occur, ESPECIALLY if that older woman doesn't take the prenatal vitamins...). The fat distribution of Chris can be explain by either the hormonal imbalance or by the fact that he doesn't really move all the much, much less work out (or both combined). If you look at pictures of him in his HighSchool years he's a LOT thinner...most likely due to a high metabolism since he didn't work out and wasn't in sports. With his age he's either lost that metabolism or he's out-eating it, either is a possibility. The fact that he doesn't work out at all and doesn't really move around all that much means that there's going to be limited muscles there and much more fat. His arms are skinny because men usually don't get a whole bunch of fat there; his legs are kinda chunky, but men get that too. His butt, gut, and thighs are fat simply because that's where the fat goes. Now, the manboobs. Some men get moobs whether or not they have some gender issue...Chris on the other hand has a set that is way too big to be normal. This could be because of the hormonal imbalance from birth, OR because he doesn't work that muscle out at all. Most men do some form of exercise for that muscle whether or not they go to the gym. They lift things, they carry things, or just daily movement will work out the pectorals for men. The fact that this particular muscle gets NO exercise or movement from Chris could mean that the pectorals are much more fat than muscle. His sexual inexperience until 16 can be explained by parenting and by his autism. His parents never had any reason to discuss his puberty with him so he never really understood sex or masturbation until he saw it in a movie, and now that he does, he still only does it 1 or 2 times a week...quite abnormal for a boy/man from puberty to about 40 years old (age after puberty varies of course). Some autistics are asexual and never have sex throughout their lives because they don't understand sex nor do they really understand/want any kind of romantic relationship. The fact that Chris wants one so badly means nothing; he's shown that he doesn't really understand relationships and treats them like a 8 year old would. ===> TL,DR: Chris's parents had him at too old an age, that along with the fact that he's overweight and doesn't work out at all has made him who he is today... and more likely than not...it'll only get worse. (These pictures show an increased weight since the last time we've seen him; especially in the face and chest.) And Chris wants sex just because he doesn't want the title VIRGIN, he really has no sex drive.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:17, 1 May 2011 (PDT)
:::Now, we have to remember that Chris is very simple. When he had to choose between his console and his galpal, and he chose the galpal, he demanded to have the consol as well, because he did the right thing. Just like in the movies. Chris doesn't necessarily understand love or attraction, he merely knows that relationship is a good thing, and it should be desired. In his simple mind, a relationship with a woman means perfect, neverending happiness that will fix all his problems. [[User:Vergilius|Vergilius]] 13:08, 1 May 2011 (PDT)

*I'm inclined to agree with Acousticvirgin here as well. I think a more plausible explanation though, is that due to DA [[autism|AUTISM]], Chris doesn't understand gender as a construct very well and so goes crazy with it. Or Chris could just be stupid. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:55, 2 May 2011 (PDT)

:Interesting theory, but I disagree with it. Klinefelter's patients tend to have unnatural looking body proportions (extremely long limbs, wide hips, short torsos), and have normal levels of intelligence (remember, Chris was on the Honor Roll). I don't think his bizarre fat deposits are caused by any meiotic disorder like Klinefelter's, but rather terrible diet fucking with his body, raising his estrogen levels, and causing him to develop gynecomastia. Once that happens, it causes him to have female-like fat deposits. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:01, 1 May 2011 (EST)

*My two cents, for what it's worth. The moobs appear to be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynecomastia Gynecomastia] In short, estrogen made him grow boobs. Estrogen would also explain why his voice is in the annoyingly high pitched range. As for [http://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Klinefelter's_syndrome Klienfelter's Syndrome], the man child does in fact track rather well. Compare to this [http://www.andrologyjournal.org/content/vol29/issue6/images/large/andr-29-6-605-f01.jpeg Pic of man with Klienfilter's syndrome]. Thing is,[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditions_comorbid_to_autism_spectrum_disorders Autism is comorbid], so odds are it isn't just autism. In summation, odds are Chris has da autism and some kind of glandular disorder. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:43, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
----Oh, and here I thought that point had already been shot down half a dozen other times and people’d actually read other bad theories before posting theirs. There's absolutely no sense to this theory, or for that matter anything remotely empiric behind it, but plenty plain to sight that shows it's impossible: Only people who don’t understand how gene expression and hormones work could think it makes sense. I don’t know where to start, there’s so much nonsence in that theory I might as well start picking it out.
> ''fat distribution and build are very effeminate...''
:What? Really, and here I thought comparing photos with a baseline would be easy, even for e-doctors. There’s hardly anything about that fat distribution that’s female. The fat went almost exclusively to his abdomen when he was just [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Cwcbraorig.JPG overweight], that’s the type of adipose distribution you get with testosterone. What’s more, the manboobs are dead common in obese men, you’re not just going to get the visceral [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:WantWoman.jpg FA5] type gut fat, but also tit fat, so by your standards [http://img.wikinut.com/img/4-hz_myuqu_9-u51/jpeg/0/Serious-obesity.jpeg fatguy here’s a dickgirl]. The fact that excess estrogens and mostly androgens(which worsen that acne) wind up being made by all that extra fat isn’t intersex.
''>he looks androgynous leaning away from male.''
:And just how? A prominent [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:100_2296.JPG gablela/brow] isn’t gender neutral, neither is his [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG21.jpg square morphing into a pear face shape], he certainly has no problem in growing facial hair as these last photos show, his jawline isn’t slender even if the fat makes it hard to make out, that nose is kind of big & like the other features testosterone promotes their growth. Oh and his hairline is quite [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg high] around the temples and frontal, another manly trait. His face isn’t androgynous or gender neutral at all.
>''The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.''
:It’s all wrong. If it actually were a urogenital intersex condition it’d have almost certainly been handled in a hospital by specialists, given how surgery is screened to more qualified MD, the chance of a inept hick doctor is nil. Never mind the fact that his dick doesn’t look like what you normally get from the infant sex assignment, and that his body certainly doesn’t match the phenotype you’d get with 5ARD Kleifeters or PAIS. The whole bit about his hairline ,[http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/a/ad/Personalprofile.jpg acne] and facial structure being too [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/6/67/0793-CWCIs24-2.jpg androgenized] and all.
Probably the most important thing about it all is that '''Autism is not something that correlates with estrogen'''. [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3040206/ Testosterone has a demonstrated casual role] in altering the expressions of genes to induce it, where as estrogen prevents it. Also Cohen’s research indicates that there is a very strong correlation for biomarkers indicating increased testosterone exposure/sensitivity and autism. So no, the idea of Chris being Estrogen dominant and ASD is nonsence. I could keep going on point by point on everything that’s wrong with this theory, but I think the point’s certainly been made. This theory keeps coming from people who just don't get how it works, so an overkill was in need.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:14, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
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*The prominent nipples are a dead giveaway to gyncomastia. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:21, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
:Have you ever looked at a fat man? Their nipples are enlarged, it's something that's induced by the adipose building up there, that's pseudogyncomastia. Unless if he's been sneaking his mother's premarin there isn't going to be much in the way of nodules there. It's possible that the adipose leads to more hormones and aromatase makes some of them into estrogen, but that's a common enough thing in the obese. It's an analogue to that why they also have higher DHT levels.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:25, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
:Which leads back to the crux of the question, is his moobs due to him being a fatass or him being a fatass makes him have moobs? Either way, he clearly has hormone issues. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 13:28, 3 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*cool theory doc but have you considered that he is a fat dummy who is fat and dumb and smells like dumb fat -Dr.[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 20:56, 2 May 2011 (PDT)

== Congratulations ==

Congratulations Chris (Or should I say Christina) You have finally come to terms with your sexuality and gender issues. The road ahead may still be windy but at least now you can be happy its the right track. I've never seen you so happy and content and this all of your doing. no manipulation here.

You might find love now that you have found yourself.

Go forth my Child.
--[[User:Bentduck|Bentduck]] 19:02, 1 May 2011 (PDT)

== Seriously guys ==

Next person who posts something not related to improving this page gets (temporarily) banned. This is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:53, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
* Well, don't know if it should be added to the picture captions but on the pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg A] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG4.jpg B] They are taken on the downtown mall. Pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg C] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg D] were taken in the Fashion Square mall, where the piercing pagoda is. And Finally, [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg Picture C] he is wearing his high school ring it but can't really tell. Unsure if linking to the downtown mall and the fashion square mall would be uneeded piping. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:50, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
* It might be worthwhile to note the bizarre horizontal flipping of some images. [[User:Smokedaddy|Smokedaddy]] 01:01, 3 May 2011 (PDT)

== Contactin' C for article material ==
Mmkay, well, do we still have Chris's email address? Can we still reach him on online chats or whatever? Is there no way someone can get hold of him and gently interrogate him about HOLY CRAP CHRIS WHAT THE FUCK and add some substance and reasoning to the insanity displayed on this page? I'm sure he won't mind the attention. I'd volunteer, but, uh, Chris fucking scares me. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 12:22, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
:<s>If only we'd thought of that sooner. I'll contact all the trolls and let them know.</s> Chris doesn't answer emails or phonecalls. He's virtually impossible to contact unless you already have a foot in the door. If you did contact Chris, he would be largely unresponsive and then ignore you. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:27, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
::Mmmkay, fair enough. How about friends/family/people unfortunate to exist in Chris's general vicinity? The freak went out in public like this; somebody has to know something. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 10:44, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:::*Lurk moar.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:53, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
::::Mmm. I used to be so good at it. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 15:08, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Sandals ==

A rather minor point I'm sure, but as someone who has worked in a shoe store, is it worth pointing out that those sandals are clearly too small for Chris? Possible as a caption under the thumbnail? [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 09:41, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:Chris is a cheap bastard who gets almost all his clothes (in fact, pretty much anything but his video game crap) second-hand; I don't think he's ever been very concerned with picking stuff that actually suits him (though whether this stuff "suits" Chris probably depends on the definition you're working with). As long as it goes on his ever-widening frame without garotting him, he's happy. Of course, maybe you can work a mention of it into the "Chris and Fashion" article... [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 10:48, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:: Yeah i figured, but that looks almost painful how small those are on him [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 14:37, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
::: Living Chris's life also looks pretty painful. He's too dense to notice either. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 15:08, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== So that surprise... ==

Do we still need that "So you know that surprise" picture on this page? I understand why it was there when this page was started but I'm not sure if it should stay. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:13, 5 May 2011 (PDT)
:My opinion counts for nothing, given my n00b status, but I'd say keep it. Adds some drama. --[[User:Redcynic|Redcynic]] 22:19, 5 May 2011 (PDT)
:When I uploaded the images, I wasn't really thinking and assumed that it was part of what had been found from Chris. I think that, as with all images of this sort, if there's a better version or a better image can be made that conveys a similar "message", it should be replaced. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 03:35, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
*I think for the sake of completeness, it should stay. Obviously the uploader of the images added this for a reason, perhaps to set the mood, and the uploader's artistic intent in presenting these images should be preserved.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:51, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

==Reversed images==

If you use the DSi's front camera that is in between the two screens, the picture will end up reversed like in Chris's pictures. I would upload a picture or something to show it, but I can't find my sd card -_-

Aside from that, I thought Chris had a camera?? I dunno why he'd stick to his DSi, unless he was planning on sticking around at the mall to use his old attraction techniques. Unlikely.

Probably. [[User:Brown kitty|Brown kitty]] 15:53, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
*Because Chris is a lazy fucker. Why bring a camera when he just use his always on hand DSI? Same reason he uses the PSEYE instead of a proper webcam. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:59, 7 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

==The "Silver Ring" Thing==

Are we sure about the whole "Silver Ring of Purity" thing? It looks quite far fetched, including the idea that Chris's stance on [[F Abstinance|abstinence]].It just looks like his high school ring all over again. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:24, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

==The Asperchu Medallion==

When did this happen? Is Chris still making medallions? Has he not given up on Sonichu? Why Asperchu? He hates Asperchu.
: [[02 March 2010|lurk moar]] --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 21:08, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Tank top ==

Chris's tank top appears to be [http://www.kohls.com/kohlsStore/juniors/tops/tankscamis/PRD~751436/SO+Striped+Ribbed+Tank.jsp from Kohl's], the color he got is currently sold out so here's [http://resources.shopstyle.com/sim/bf/ab/bfabbd0c07bb40895e30c6cc1acd2f1d/kohls-tanks-so-striped-ribbed-tank.jpg another pic of it], although the colors don't line up the same, maybe it's different in the size he wears. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 23:57, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Cost of his Ensamble ==

Looking at a few of his items, It seems like Chris's outfit is not exactly expensive. For instance, that nail polish is $0.99 Wal-Mart brand. Not sure if this is even relavent to the page, but I think it would be interesting to figure out how much All his stuff would cost. Perhaps as a single sentance in Chris and Money, or Chris and Fashion perhaps? --[[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 11:06, 8 May 2011 (PDT)
* It's Chris we are talking about. Assume that he paid 5$ for the whole outfit at Goodwill. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 11:20, 8 May 2011 (PDT)
** Fair enough --[[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 11:31, 8 May 2011 (PDT)

== How long has he been toying with 'Tomgirl'? ==

A picture from CWC's "Sonichu Episode 1" LBP level, taken about a month ago: http://lbp.me/p/0gqk21 --[[User:Henry Bemis|Henry Bemis]] 23:00, 9 May 2011 (PDT)
:He always had that "female equivalent" thing going on with that imaginary twin sister of his. Chris's mind is a typhoon of incomprehensible insanity (and, probably, reams of potential psychological theses); could've been building up for years for all we know. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 06:40, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
:: Don't forget that he's always thought that girls should play with "boy toys" like Transformers and boys should play with "girl toys" like My Little Pony. And I quote, "if you're a young gentlemen, I suggest you buy yourself a...My Little Pony figurine, of your favorite color...or whatever. Stroking the hair of said pony, is very relaxing..like rubbing it against your cheek." He thinks this will help you understand the ladies. And the "girls should get Transformers to understand how a boy works..." <= that's from the future message video he made 2-3 years ago. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 07:56, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
:Chris didn't do that. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 09:34, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
::* Chris didn't do what?? Everything mentioned up til this point of this section has been true... :P --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 16:32, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
::for people who haven't played littlepigblanket... anyone can go into a level and attach shit to other shit and take photos of it. so it was one of chris's many fans who made sonichu into a transvestite just to be funny, unaware that that this photo would actually give chris a boner -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 16:41, 10 May 2011 (PDT)

*This might explain a bit of Chris's sexual issues. If he is transgendered/transexual (Can never remember which is which), then it would explain why he acts the way he does and his obsession with crystal. If truly transgender, he would fantasize about having sex with guys but as a woman and not a gay man. Given Chris's general 'tard tendencies, he may not realize he is not gay but simply wanting to be a female. Food for thought.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:26, 10 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
** "Transsexual" is written with two S, but no, I don't think it's the case. (And totally not just because I don't want Chris to make transsexuals look bad.) His identity is too obviously masculine, even grotesquely so. Not to mention his persistent misogyny; if he thinks women are little more than shopping-obsessed sex-dispensing automata, why would he want to be one? - [[User:LucidFox|LucidFox]] 18:37, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
*** Lucid, I just want to point out that, in a way, Chris conformed to those female stereotypes. Perhaps I'm just being slow in the mind but isn't that exactly what he'd want to be? --[[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 22:05, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
:Same reason preachers revile gay sterotypes on sunday and suck dick on monday. Maybe he just likes cross dressing.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:00, 10 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*I really think we need to just say it like it is. Chris does this in the hopes of getting "china". He heard somewhere that "tomboys" are defined as ___________ and came to his own conclusion (as he's known to do... EXAMPLE: Recycling his navy gravy...) that a "tomgirl" would be defined as...well you've seen the pictures and that tomboys would like tomgirls because they "go together". It's for china people, there's no other motive. Chris doesn't want to "be a woman" and he's not trying to be "Crystal". He just wants china and thought this would help him get it...all that's left to know is: Did he do this all by himself? Or is this a new sweetheart sega? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:10, 10 May 2011 (PDT)

*While Henry Barnes's original comment is at least somewhat relevant, as it could in theory flesh out the article, the rest of this is chatter that does nothing to improve the article. As a result, 4Macie, CFA, SilentThunder, and LucidFox have been banned for a day for violating the [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]] policy.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:05, 11 May 2011 (PDT)

== Puke Pic ==

Is the puke pic really necessary? Some of us find that worse than looking at Chris. [[User:Ewwww|Ewwww]] 13:13, 11 May 2011 (PDT)
*I agree it should be removed ----[[User:Observer|Observer]] 06:42, 12 May 2011 (PDT)
*In the future, just do it guys. If someone genuinely believes the article is better off with such a pic, they'll put it back. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:00, 12 May 2011 (PDT)

==Jefferson quote==
Should we point out the Jefferson quote? It seems to imply that Chris wrote the quote, when (in at least my earnest opinion) it just happened to be on the chalkboard above what Chris wrote (I believe we've established before that this some sort of communal chalkboard that anyone can write on).--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:00, 12 May 2011 (PDT)
*I say no, as for the chalkboard, [http://www.readthehook.com/71925/free-speech-wall-national-award Local paper article on the wall]. The jefferson quote is not not surprising, if memory serves, there is a big stone placard right near the wall with that same quote.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:18, 12 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

== Transgender symbol ==

How the hell did Chris find the [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/A_TransGender-Symbol_Plain3.svg transgender symbol?]. Note both on the mod racer pic and the chalkboard pic he drew the symbol.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:24, 12 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
: Since Chris got neither imagination or insight, I will assume that somebody asked him to do it. Looks like we will have to wait a little to know all the details. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 15:33, 12 May 2011 (PDT)

*or Someone told him, I doubt Chris even thought such a symbol existed, there is more this then Tito lets on. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:17, 12 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
** He didn't draw the upper-left arrow. What he drew was a straight (no pun intended) combination of the male and female symbols, which is something Chris could have come up with on his own. - [[User:LucidFox|LucidFox]] 20:29, 12 May 2011 (PDT)
::*I think this is the most likely explanation. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:45, 12 May 2011 (PDT)

== Talk Page archive ==

Looking at how fast this talk page has bloated, anyone else think mabey we should archive the current page and start a new one? --[[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 22:02, 12 May 2011 (PDT)

Talk:Amanda

2011-05-11T05:34:51Z

SilentThunder:

Perhaps JenkinsJinkies can help us with this a bit more. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 06:27, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Why even create this page if that's the only thing we know about her? Get some field agents down there, get some pictures, do an interview. Damn, do something... --[[User:Racer X|Racer X]] 12:27, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
:Isn't JJ an FA that's working on this case? [[User:Banzai881|Banzai881]] 18:15, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
::Like Clyde said, the best thing is probably to let JenkinsJinkies fill us in on more information as more happens.--[[User:Star Platinum|Star Platinum]] 19:26, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

:::I think having a page dedicated to a list of people (broken into YOUNG LADIES and JERKS) who are mean to Chris would be a good idea. Although, I guess it's kind of covered in the trolls section. More like "actual" trolls, "presumed" trolls, and Chrissy's definition of trolls--anyone who's "mean" to him or doesn't agree with him, or is just following their duties while he merrily breaks the law. [[User:DonnieDarko|DonnieDarko, enlargen your world.]]

This article and the Coffee Place article need to change somehow now. The Coffee Place article needs to be documented somewhere and this article probably should just be deleted. Thoughts? [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 19:31, 30 January 2011 (PST)
* Nothing seems to have been done in the last few months. I vote delete. --[[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 22:34, 10 May 2011 (PDT)

Asperchu/Background

2011-05-11T05:29:24Z

SilentThunder: /* Asperchu */

:''This article is about "Asperchu", a very well-thought-out webcomic. For Chris's views and such and all that, see [[Asperchu]].''

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{{Quote|I think Asperchu is a pretty nice guy. He faces his fear of [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend Factor|rejection]], tries his best to be tactful and humble, and he just wants somebody to love. Oh dear god, you made a sympathetic [[Wikipedia:Bizarro World|bizzaro]] [[Chris]].|An anon on [[/cwc/]], summarizing what makes Asperchu so unique.}}

{{quote|I detest "Asperchu", because one, it is a [[Parody]] of a [[Sonichu]] with [[aspergers]], which with the condition, I have no care for. And two, it is just lousy; if aspergers is really like [[autism]], then the creator really knows nothing about Autism.|Chris<ref>[[Mailbag 24]]</ref>}}

[[Image:AsperchuFanArt.png|thumb|That's right, '''Asperchu''' is so popular, it's fan art that has received fan art of itself]]

'''''The Amazing Asperchu''''' (also called ''Asperchu: The Amazing Tales'' and ''The Spectacular Asperchu'') is a [[parody]] of ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' detailing the zany misadventures of [[Asperchu]], the [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] with [[Asperger syndrome]]. It can be read [http://asperchu.thecomicseries.com/ here].

''Asperchu'' pokes fun at everything that makes [[Chris]]'s ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' comic series what it is. Unlike ''Sonichu'', where everyone praises Chris for what he's done, the same cannot be said for Asperchu, whose descent into the same giant prick that Chris has become has the entire supporting cast detest him. Another thing that has earned the ire of Chris is its tablet-drawn style - this is, more or less, a delusional thing for Chris, who [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 1|believes that it doesn't have the same "character"]] as [[Chris and art|his paper-and-pencil-drawn pages]].

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==Protagonists==

===Asperchu===
[[Image:Asperchu.jpg|thumb|left|150px|The Good, Godly, STRAIGHT Asperchu]]

Asperchu is a high-functioning Electric/Asperger's Hedgehog Pokémon. He has no Electric-type attacks; however, his Asperger's-type attacks do double damage against Autistic-type Pokémon. His strongest attack is the ''Asperhameha'', which hits his target with a blast of furious energy and can leave them confused and prone to developing [[mental block]]s of their own.

Asperchu lives in Minnesota with his grandparents, Grandma Snorlax and Grandpa Alzheichu; his father went out to get a case of beer and promised to be right back, although this was some time in late [[2003]] and he hasn't been seen since. When not working hard on [[YouTube]] videos, he prefers to relax by playing video games on his [[Xbox 360]] or hanging out with his joy-boys at the mall food court. He attends [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|Normandale Community College]] with his two best joy-boys, Max and Jivin. However, Asperchu's adventures and his recent state of mind has made him forget this detail and he has missed 195 days of school.

He is currently on a [[Love Quest]] to obtain a [[gal-pal]] whom he can build into a [[sweetheart from the ground up]]. His standards for a gal-pal are not terribly stringent, although he will not abide gingers or tolerate those who do. He eventually met and fell in love with Dixie Chu, beginning his Dix Quest to win her heart. Having been rejected, though, Asperchu has been spending most of his time absorbed in video games and won't go anywhere without his Xbox Portable. As well, Asperchu has an incredible dislike for [[slow-in-the-mind]]s.

For a long time, Asperchu's hope for his Love Quest was to be able to finally have his dream-daughter Asperia, which later became unnecessary when he traveled back in time and met the [[Ian Brandon Anderson]] of the past. Both of them drank the [[semen|Special Fanta Brew]] that created [[Sonichu]] in the past; when Asperchu returned to the present, he found that he too was pregnant and defecated out a deformed monster, naming it "Asperia". While at first ecstatic to have her, he later grew bored of taking care of her and tried leaving her in the care of his grandma while he continued playing video games. Asperia was killed by [[Bionic the Hedgehog]].

Currently, Asperchu is being manipulated by a squirrel-creature calling itself "[[Rocky]]", telling Asperchu that he need never take responsibility for his actions. Unbeknownst to Asperchu, "Rocky" is one of the mysterious [[Man in the Pickle Suit|MIPS]].

It has been revealed that the source of Asperchu's powers is the Chaos Pickle of Diligence, though Asperchu believed that he was [[GodJesus]]'s next prophet.

*Asperchu is, of course, based on [[Christian Weston Chandler]]; his overweight appearance and clothing precisely emulate Chris's, and Asperchu's goatee is from Chris's [[Rollin' and Trollin']] phase. Asperchu's mannerisms are also directly copied from Chris, especially the [[ego]], narcissism, self-entitlement, and fixation on the [[Love Quest]]. Also, Asperchu's saga parallels Chris's descent into madness, with early issues focusing on Asperchu's fairly-innocent and [[naïve]] Love Quest, and later issues showing him to be just as big a [[duck|prick]] as Chris has become. It even goes as far as to hypothesize what Chris would do with a child if his wish came true: reasonably, he would get tired of said child and neglect to take care of it.

===Sonichu===
[[Image:TheOtherAsperchu.jpg|thumb|150px|Asperchu's bestest joy-boy Sonichu, who eventually got his own spin-off comic due to the popularity of Asperchu]]

The brother, hetero-life mate, and STRAIGHT joy-boy of Asperchu, with whom he is engaged in an everlasting, STRAIGHT bromance. Or at least he ''was''...

[[Sonichu]] shows up from time to time to assist Asperchu in his adventures and in defeating the villainous forces of the [[Troll]] Lords. Even if there aren't any villains to fight or adventures to be had, however, Sonichu and Asperchu just can't stand to be apart for long, so occasionally they will meet up for a [[Homos|late night snuggling rendezvous]]. He is currently running for the office of District Attorney of [[Virginia]], on a vigorous platform of promoting both gay rights and recognition of [[Asperger's Syndrome]] as a component of the Autism Spectrum. Or at least he ''did...''

Sonichu was created in [[1999]] by Ian Brandon Anderson through an unholy mixture of human and Chu semen with Fanta. At first, Ian was overjoyed at having a son of his own, especially one who'd be a loyal and true son, unlike [[Bionic]]. However, Ian got bored of trying to raise Sonichu, especially when it got into his video game playing time. Casting him into a raft, Sonichu floated down the river until he was found by the TRUE and HONEST Christian Weston Chandler, who raised Sonichu as his own son. When Ian Brandon Anderson took over [[CWCVille]], Sonichu was forced to be married off to [[Rosechu]], only for him and the rest of the [[Chaotic Combo]] to revolt. Arriving in ALBVille, he and the rest of the Chaotic Combo fought to free CWCVille from Ian's grips. However, the release of Metal Asperchu would change all that as he would slaughter most of the Combo. When Sonichu went to confront Ian at last, Metal Asperchu made short work of him, lopping off his right arm. When Asperchu, Max and Jivin returned from the past, Asperchu revealed off-handedly that Ian was his father. Sonichu went on a quest to find the truth, only to end up with Mitch Chu dead. When Christian told Sonichu the truth, it drove Sonichu insane. He hunted down Ian as he was kidnapping Asperia and blew out his kneecaps, accidentally killing Asperia. Being captured by Bionic again, he provoked Sonichu into killing Ian for good. As a gift, he grafted Ian's arm where Sonichu's once was. When Argentum was released, he teleported Asperchu and Sonichu to the time when the [[4-Cent_Garbage]] Center was destroyed, only for the hedgehog to tear apart the place. When Sonichu returns to the present, Sonichu attempts to call Asperchu a monster, but he feels himself unworthy of Chris's love and runs away.

While in self-imposed exile in Molvanîa, he finds himself possessed by the soul of Ian and, in fear, runs to Bionic for help. When Bionic can't help him, the two rescue Sinestro from his prison. However, not even Sinestro understands Sonichu's odd transformation, his fur turning blue, his eyes taking Ian's [[heterochromia]] styling, [[Obesity|his cholesterol level skyrocketing]] and wanting to play the [[PS3]] for 5 to 9 hours.

In an alternate universe of sorts, Sonichu is shown as an actual [[Sonic the Hedgehog]]-like character fighting an evil madman named [[Robotnik|CWC-Botnik]].

At the end of Issue #F, Sonichu is no more, taken over by Ian's personality, becoming the dreaded ... '''Chris-Chan Sonichu'''.

===Max===
[[Image:Max.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Asperchu's plucky, polyurethane sidekick]]

Close friend of Asperchu and Jivin. He is always a True, Caring friend who only ever looks out for his joy-boys. He is composed of 80% memory foam and is capable of absorbing the properties and attacks of other people by temporarily ingesting them. His transformations include [[Wikipedia:Guido|Guido]], [[Wikipedia:Waffen SS|Waffen SS]], [[Niggos|2Pac]] and Yellow Devil.

At the funeral for the Chaotic Combo, it's revealed that Max is also a Christian minister.
*Max is a completely original character and is not derived from [[Wikipedia:Kirby (character)|any source]] other than Alec Benson Leary's own imagination.

===Jivin Pickles===
[[Image:Jivin.jpg|thumb|150px|Aww, shit son, Asperchu just got GANGSTA all up in here]]

The son of a prominent cucumber farmer, Jivin is Asperchu's [[Niggos|black]] best friend who is black. He is keen to assist Asperchu in his [[Love Quest]], although some speculate it is merely an excuse for him to pursue his own personal Fuck Quest, as his attitude toward [[sweethearts]], while enthusiastic, appears less than wholesome at times. Instead of [[Christmas]], Jivin celebrates [[Wikipedia:Kwanzaa|Kwanzaa]]. Asperchu has suggested that he possibly does not realize Jivin is black. The Pickles family are the guardians of one of the seven Chaos Pickles.

Jivin is a fan-favorite on Asperpedia that has received his own sub-episode, as well as two cameos in Isabel Monday's comic ''[[Fan:Capering Berries|Capering Berries]]''.
===Groovan===
Close friend of Max, Asperchu and Jivin. ''Asperchu'' issue Ten claims that they have always been friends.

==Villains==
===Ian Brandon Anderson===
[[Image:IBAasperchu.png|thumb|150px|left|The evil and deceitful IAN BRANDON SOMETHING]]

[[Ian]] believes himself to be the TRUE and ORIGINAL Christian Weston Chandler, but is instead a [[fat]], insane manchild. Ian rules [[CWCville]] through a totalitarian and Nazi-like regime, although the CWCville People's Liberation Front (CPLF) constantly fights against his oppression. He forced women in middle school and older into prostitution as a perverse form of "[[Dating Education|sexual education]]".

This recently changed after Ian's lengthy absence, leading to [[Surfshack Tito (troll)|Mayorshack Tito]]'s takeover and the return of justice to CWCville.

If he doesn't get his way, he uses his [[Megatron Pistol|Transformers gun]] to silence anyone who questions his delusions. Ian attempted to murder Christian to prove that he was the real Chris-chan, and also attempted to murder the "parodic" Sonichus before being set on fire by Metal Asperchu and losing his Transformers gun, where it passes hands until it is given away by Noir Chu.

In [[1999]], Ian had created Bionic, but quickly lost interest in him as the hedgehog attempted to win over his love. Fired from his job at [[Wendy's]] by [[Giovanni]], Ian discovered Asperchu and quickly became friends with him. He introduced him to his [[gal-pals]] [[Ivy]] and [[Megan]] before encountering his future self. The two fought and the younger Ian proved victorious. He attempted to have sex with the two before Megan tazered him. Trapped by the foppish Principal Blaziken, Bionic came to his aid, but Ian mistook Asperchu for the hero, breaking his creation in the process. He invites Asperchu to his house where he convinces Asperchu to surrender some of his [[comeuppance]] to create the Special Fanta Brew. Summoning [[Beel|Satan]] to his house after drinking the cup with their comeuppance, he has him use his satanic powers to turn them into a Sonichu inside his stomach. The younger Ian would encounter the older Ian, forcing the two to attack with their [[Curse-Ye-Ha-Me-Ha]]s, leading to Bionic being rendered how he is now. Disgusted by Bionic's perceived failure, Ian abandoned Bionic and, ten weeks later, gave birth to Sonichu. The birth, however, left his [[duck]] bent at a horrible angle. He later abandoned Sonichu since taking care of him took away from his time playing video games, so he sent him on a raft hoping that he'd raise himself to become the son he wanted without putting any effort into it.

When the TRUE and ORIGINAL Christian Weston Chandler disappeared, Ian initiated a coup on CWCville, quickly gaining control. As the Asperchu series shares the same universe as ''[[Simonchu]]'' and ''[[Fan:Moon-Pals|Moon-Pals]]'', it is said that he was able to con the people into thinking he was the true Christian Weston Chandler. In short order, Ian ravaged the city, destroyed it's commerce center and driven or killed 70% of its population, placing the remaining citizens under martial law.

Years later, Ian reappeared, seeking to aid in the rescue of Asperchu, only to encounter the TRUE and ORIGINAL Christian Weston Chandler and be sat on fire by Metal Asperchu. Through various conversations, we learned that Ian had raped a number of Rosechu as well as Mitch Chu. When Metal Asperchu attacked, Ian took up a Son-Chu and battled it out, nearly winning until the robot took advantage of damage Simonchu inflicted. When the robot activated a time warp, he was tossed into the past and beaten by his past self. He attempted to fight again, only to encounter Max. He completely ignores Max's impassioned plea to stop fighting and races back to his house, encountering his younger self and set off the chain of events that would shunt him back into the present, where Metal Asperchu awaited. For a time, Ian was Bionic's prisoner, utterly unable to remember who he was. When Sonichu broke into his cell in an attempt to learn the truth of his past, Ian told him a fake story, only to be rejected by Sonichu. He attempted to escape with Sonichu, only to be captured in the process, passing out until the real Chris rescued everyone. Upon learning of Asperia, Ian sought to take her away because he feels that she is actually his daughter [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]]. Upon attempting to spirit away Asperia, Sonichu blows out his kneecaps (accidentally killing Asperia) and is captured by Bionic. Bionic then uses the mentally unstable Sonichu to butcher his father. Ian finally meets his end with Sonichu's axe and Bionic's gun. As a reward, [[Metal Gear Solid|Bionic grafts Ian's right arm onto Sonichu's stump in place of the one he lost in Issue 3.]]

However, the soul of Ian lives on within Sonichu and whenever he takes over, he causes Sonichu's eyes to take its heterochromic styling.

*[[Ian Brandon Anderson]] is a version of Chris based on the [[Liquid Chris]] saga. Ian's appearance is a direct parody of Chris. Ian's death mirrors that of the deaths of Evan, Sean, and Mao in [[Sonichu 10]].

===Bionic the Hedgehog===
[[File:Bionicc.jpg|thumb|149px|Why don't you love me, father?]]
Ian Brandon Anderson's hedgehog creation. In 1999, Bionic was a jovial and [[homos|gay]] creature who encountered Jivin, Asperchu and Max after their time slip. They learned that he had sought to win Ian's love as the manchild slowly lost interest in other stuff other than [[ego|himself]] and [[china|women]]. When Bionic rescued Ian from Principal Blaziken, Ian mistook Asperchu as his savior and scolded Bionic, which broke him. Rescued by Jivin, but apparently lost his ability to speak (most likely swallowed his tongue), Bionic attempted to return to Ian, only to watch as his older self and younger self prepared to fire a Curse-Ye-Ha-Me-Ha on each other. Bionic saved an unwitting Asperchu from getting struck, only to be hit by the blasts. Losing an arm and being badly burned and scarred, Ian abandons him for his Sonichu. He attempts to get a job at McDonald's, but he is rejected by Robotnik. Rejected by his father and other lower forms, Bionic plots burning revenge against Ian.

Years later, Metal Asperchu would find him wheelchair-bound in a [[Wikipedia:Dr. Wily|Dr. Wily-esque]] fortress. Bionic gave Metal Asperchu a Chaos Pickle as a sign of goodwill, then had him go after certain targets and kill them. Robotnik was first, killed for rejecting Bionic from McDonald's. Ian was the second target. When Metal Asperchu used the Chaos Pickles to create the time warp, he watched with joy as another robotic figure emerged. He finally managed to capture his father Ian Brandon Anderson (who forgot that Bionic was his first son and mistook him for another Sonichu parody), as well as his brother Sonichu. When the real Chris arrives to rescue Sonichu, he kills Mitch in cold blood before escaping.

Bionic returns and seemingly reveals his true master plan: by driving Sonichu insane through the revelation of his true parentage, he uses the broken Electric Hedgehog Pokémon to murder Ian Brandon Anderson; in essence, turning his favorite son against him. His plans for the body of the dead Asperia is currently unknown.

He attempted to help Sonichu with his strange transformation, but Sonichu stopped him and Sinestro, feeling this new form is much better. He is later called in to be a judge for Asperchu's trial.

*Bionic's condition is similar to that of [[Wikipedia:Christopher Pike|Christopher Pike]], the first captain of ''Star Trek's USS Enterprise'', with the exception that Bionic could still talk while Pike could only respond with light. His judge outfit resembles that worn by [[Wikipedia:Q (Star Trek)|Q]] in the ''[[Wikipedia:Star Trek: The Next Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]'' series premiere, "[[Wikipedia:Encounter at Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]]" and again in the finale, "[[Wikipedia:All Good Things...|All Good Things...]]".
*Similarly, Bionic's crippled body, mobile life support system, mechanized speech, distorted eyes, and general air of malevolent mystery could be based on [[Wikipedia:Davros|Davros]], one of the main villains on ''[[Wikipedia:Doctor Who|Doctor Who]].''
*Also, Bionic's base is based off a [[dream]] Chris mentioned about people being killed in a "[[Mailbag_39#In which Chris describes a bad dream for no reason|SKULL-SHAPED]]" factory.

===Metal Asperchu===
Metal Asperchu was to be Sinestro's ultimate tool in finding the seven Chaos Pickles, but refused to follow his orders and proceeded to seek the Chaos Pickles on his own. Metal attacked Simonchu and stole his medallion to guide his quest, then brutally murdered three of the five members of the Chaotic Combo.

From there he goes and forms an alliance with the severely crippled Bionic the Hedgehog, doing random tasks like blowing up fast [[McDonald's|food restaurants]] and killing [[Robotnik|Teddy Roosevelt]]. Bionic then orders the robot to bring him Christian Weston Chandler as his final task. He confronts Ian and attempts to kill him, only to be damaged in the process. He uses the four Pickles he gathered to take a new form and banish Ian, Asperchu, Max and Jivin to another time. When the four return, Metal Asperchu has taken up a new form and easily captures Ian. After obtaining the fifth Chaos Pickle, he decides to hold off on number six until he can unlock his full database. Confronting Sinestro, he learns the truth of the fourth directive, then releases Yellow Devil, Cthulu Chu and Bubastis Chu before imprisoning Sinestro in one of the tubes. After killing Cthulu Chu, he figures out the secret of the Fourth Directive and forces Sinestro to watch his work finally unfold. However, after the creation of Argentum and his subsequent turning, Metal Asperchu has gone into a massive blue screen of death. Soon after, WesLi Chu gives Metal Asperchu a disk and he begins scanning seven individuals who are part of the Anchuent Prophecy. He scans Asperchu, WesLi Chu, Sonichu, Chris and two others (presumably Alzheichu and Dino Dash) before the heroes attack him in his attempt to get the last one. He kills Noir Chu and Aspercream and defeats many of the heroes before Alzheichu stabs him with Chris's knife, briefly causing him to go haywire and explode, destroying him and finally releasing the Chaos Pickles.

* Based on [[Metal Sonichu]] who in turn is based on Metal Sonic.

===Other villains===

;Sinestro
As the apparent leader of the trolls, Sinestro has attempted to create numerous clones of Asperchu in order to find the seven Chaos Pickles, including Metal Asperchu and Noir Chu. Lisa and Dino Dash have been at his command from the very beginning, and he has convinced John to join him as well. After activating and losing Metal Asperchu, Sinestro has found himself pushed aside as the main villain before being locked up completely by his own creation. He was recently rescued by Sonichu and Bionic in an attempt to cure Sonichu's odd transformation.
*Sinestro's name comes from a [[Wikipedia:Sinestro|comic-book villain]], while his appearance is similar to that of [[Wikipedia:List_of_Excel_Saga_characters#Il_Palazzo|Il Palazzo]] of ''[[Excel Saga]]'' (whose appearance was also copied by Chris for the character [[ScotPalazzo]]).

;Lisa
A girl who attends Normandale Community College. Asperchu took a fancy to her, and worked up the courage to ask her on a date for some fine dining and pleasant conversation at the local Burger King and she agreed. However, her plan all along was to steal his Asperchu Medallion and lower his Heart Level. Although Asperchu later defeated her in battle, she still succeeded in both goals. She appears to be in the employ of Sinestro, to whom she delivered the Medallion. She has recently returned in an attempt to find and retrieve a disk that had been used by Metal Asperchu
*Lisa most closely resembles Chris's ex-sweetheart [[Blanca]]. As with Lisa, Blanca pretended to be interested in Chris in order to steal his medallion. Her asking him out on a fake date is based on the acts of proto-troll [[Hanna]].

;John and Kendra
John (YouTube handle: '''GJ-Radar''', "GJ" presumably standing for [[GodJesus]]) is a born-again Baptist from rural Texas; he and his fiancée '''Kendra''' traveled to Minnesota after becoming aware of Asperchu's YouTube rants, which they deemed sacrilegious and sinful. John confronted Asperchu and demanded that he overcome his hypocrisy; Asperchu responded by challenging him to a YouTube Godstar Challenge to prove who the real Christian was. John was declared to be the one true Christian, while Asperchu was declared a fraud. Asperchu subsequently stole John's own crucifix necklace and used it to power his Jesus-hameha attack, which hit and injured Kendra when she intervened. Sinestro approached John, offering to heal Kendra in return for his services.
* Based off the [[Singstar Challenge]] of the [[Liquid Saga]]. John and Kendra most likely represent [[Liquid]] and [[Kacey]].

;Dino Dash/Clyde Cash
Dino Dash (called Clyde Cash in later issues) is the guido who kidnapped Jonas Chu in order to impersonate him at the Guitar Hero championship and abduct Dixie Chu as part of Sinestro's plan to obtain the seven Chaos Pickles. He is the strongest and most cunning of Sinestro's pawns.
*Dino Dash is based on [[Clyde Cash]].

;Count Plot Cohesuon
Count Plot Cohesuon is the mysterious force that may be behind Sinestro's search for the Chaos Pickles. He is not fond of ''dei ex machina''. According to Alec's comments on Issue 5E, Plot Cohesuon is Count Graduon's cousin and he's also dead, having used his powers on himself in an accident.
*Count Plot Cohesuon is a parody of [[Count Graduon]] from the original Sonichu comic.

;Silvana Rosechu
The evil, hermaphroditic Rosechu from the Sonichu series. Even more evil and cunning, she appears to work for Ian Brandon Anderson. She murders Bubbles and Magi-Chan, then lures Asperchu towards Ian, where's she's forced to become [[Meg Griffin]] for Ian's pleasure. She also has a noticeable bulge.

;Yellow Devil
A leftover from Dr. Wily's usage, the Yellow Devil now works for Bionic, capturing Sonichu and Ian as they attempt to escape. It crushes Mitch Chu's legs, smacks Jivin around and fights Max before he is defeated by the real Chris.
*Based on the [[List_of_Mega_Man_characters#Bio-Devil|Yellow Devil]] from the ''Megaman'' game series.

==Supporting characters==

===Asperchu's family===

;Grandpa Alzheichu
Asperchu's grandfather, an [[racist|old-fashioned]] Sonichu who spends most of his time sitting in his armchair and watching television. He also likes to make Asperchu do [[stress]]ful chores around the house. Alzheichu is married to Grandma Snorlax. Alzheichu sacrifices himself to stop Metal Asperchu's assault.
*Alzheichu is based on [[Bob Chandler]].

;Grandma Snorlax

Asperchu's grandmother. Spends all of her time sleeping in the backyard. Snorlax is married to Alzheichu. Lost her left foot due to Asperia's hunger.
*"[[Wikipedia:Snorlax|Snorlax]]" is the nickname given to [[Barbara Chandler]].

;Asperia Chu

The future daughter of Asperchu, as foretold by [[Chris and religion|GodJesus]] in a dream. Asperia Chu is definitely not a ginger. Asperia finally became a reality as a side effect of Past Chris's plans to become pregnant with Sonichu. When Asperchu craps her out in the present, he fails to realize what a disfigured abomination she really is. Asperchu quickly gets bored of her and, instead of taking care of her, stuffs her in the fridge or leaves her with sleeping Grandma Snorlax.

In one of Asperchu's daydreams of Asperia, she's seen wearing a bikini top and a thong underneath a skirt. This is likely mirroring Chris's [[pedofork]] tendencies. He also describes her as "the pinnacle of his existence", attributing to his own narcissism.

Sadly, Asperia is the latest victim of Ian Brandon Anderson's evils. Having been kidnapped by the madmanchild, she is accidentally killed by a vengeful Sonichu in his attempts to get back at him. However, Bionic recovers her body, and it is heavily implied he has plans for her since he sympathizes with having a neglectful father.

*Asperia Chu is based on [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)]]. As with Crystal, her name is a feminine version of her "father's." Also, Asperia's [[Wikipedia:Alien (creature in Alien franchise)|"Alien" appearance]] may be a jab at the [[Sonee and Rosey]] designs which have horrified many.

===[[Chaotic Combo (Asperchu)|The Chaotic Combo]]===
*'''Wild Sonichu''' is the leader of the Chaotic Combo and Simonchu's gay lover. Despises Asperchu's desire to win back Dixie Chu.

*'''Angelica Rosechu''' uses her wings and her faith in GodJesus to help her fight the forces of evil.

*'''Punchy Sonichu''' is the master of the "anshuent Chinaman martial arts." He has a very noticeable accent due to his ethnicity.

*'''Bubbles Rosechu''' is the entirely useless member who just hangs out with the group. She is extremely [[retarded|slow-in-the-mind]] and is prone to injuring herself.

*'''Magi-Chan Sonichu''' uses his psychic powers to aid the Chaotic Combo. Magi-Chan is able to locate any person by going into a five-and-a-half hour trance. He also likes to go on long walks in the park and [[Mass debate]] to videos of Simonchu and Wild's Honeymoon. He also seems to have a thing for Simonchu as well.

Wild, Angelica and Punchy were all brutally murdered by Metal Asperchu. Bubbles and Magi-Chan are later murdered by Silvana.

===Christian Weston Chandler===
[[Image:RealcwcAsperchu.png|thumb|150px|The TRUE and HONEST CWC (also the true and honest medallion)]]

Sonichu's father and creator, Christian is the hero of CWCville, always willing to risk his life and do what is necessary for the greater good. He helped to reform CWCville after the war with Albville under the reign of his father, [[Bob Chandler|Robert "The Lumberjack" Chandler]] and restored peace before Ian's hostile takeover. After assisting Asperchu's assault on Sinestro's castle, Christian left to pursue Ian Brandon Anderson.

In Issue 4, it's revealed that he raised Sonichu since as far back as he could remember, and trained him how to fight and WHEN to fight. However, during the time travel episode, Asperchu shed's light on the mayors past that puts Sonichu's biological parentage in doubt. The hedgehog now seeks Chris to try to find out the truth of his parentage. Instead, Chris finds them, rescuing them from Bionic, though not before Bionic kills Mitch. It is revealed in Issue 5 that Chris found Sonichu abandoned in a cardboard box and raised the Hedgehog Pokémon to be the creature who he was now.

It's been revealed that Chris is the avatar of the Chaos Pickle of Patience.

*Christian Chandler is based on [[Liquid Chris]]. The knife he carries is based on [[Sonichu Special 4]].

===Argentum===

The end result of Metal Asperchu's experiments, it is the Asperchu clone that has its fourth directive unlocked. It has the ability to warp space time and seems to be capable of feeding of the pain of others.

*Argentum's design is a mixture of the Pokémon [[Wikipedia:Mewtwo|Mewtwo]] and Sonic the Hedgehog character [[Wikipedia:Silver the Hedgehog|Silver the Hedgehog]]. His name is Latin for "silver".

===Other characters===
;Heaven Fatterton

Lisa's accomplice and a fat ginger. She pretends to be Lisa during Asperchu's date so that she can steal the Asperchu medallion while Lisa films the date for blackmail. When her wig falls of, Asperchu is to dense to realize she's a phony and instead thinks there's two Lisas when the real Lisa shows up. Heaven has a thinner, bustier sister named Hortense who was killed by [[Bob Chandler]] for getting close to Chris-Chan.

;[[Mitch Sonichu|Mitch Chu]]

Sonichu's cousin. He's a [[Homos|gay]] hairstylist, and his catch-phrase is "Razzle-dazzle". When problems arose during Metal Asperchu's attack, Sonichu called in Mitch to watch over Jivin and his dad, who were attacked by the robot. He ended up giving Jivin a new hairdo. Later he helps reform Asperchu clone Noir Chu by having him volunteer at an Albville soup hotel. In issue 3, it is implied that Ian raped Mitch when he was a Sonee. He also has two fathers. In Issue 4, he agrees to join Sonichu on his quest to find his real father. When he attempts to rescue Sonichu from Bionic's clutches, his legs are crushed by the Yellow Devil, pinned to a wall crucifix-style, then shot through the chest before the real Chris can save him.

Mitch also appears as Sonichu's guide through the wonderful world of [[Chris and copyright|copyright infringement]] in ''[[Fan: Sonichu Revolution|Sonichu Revolution]]''.

*Mitch Chu is based on [[Mitch Sonichu]], Chris's take on Asperchu's "EXTREME ELECTRIC MAKEOVER" in [[Sonichu 10]]. He was made into a gay stylist as a logical conclusion to said makeover.

;Simonchu

Although [[Simonchu]] stars in his own comic series, he appears in Asperchu as the bisexual lover of Wild Sonichu. Metal Asperchu attacked Simonchu and stole his medallion. He is rendered grief-stricken when Metal Asperchu killed Wild, allowing him to be taken advantage of by Rosechu. In Issue 4, Simonchu agrees to join Sonichu in trying to find his real father.

;Dixie Chu

The girl of Asperchu's dreams. Dixie been dating Jonas Chu and is disgusted by Asperchu, but that fact hasn't kept Asperchu from pursuing her. Asperchu has dedicated his life to obtaining "Dix" as his sweetheart. She recently returned to testify against Asperchu in his trial

* Dixie Chu is based off a number of Chris's [[gal-pals]], but is probably more centered on [[Megan Schroeder]] and [[Kacey]].

;Jonas Chu

Asperchu's rival for the heart of Dixie Chu. Asperchu first met Jonas Chu at the Brass Dragon, where, in preparation for the Guitar Hero championship, they competed for the right to be Dixie Chu's boyfriend. Jonas beat Asperchu, but only by "cheating" by playing on Hard mode, which Asperchu had not yet mastered. Jonas was then kidnapped so that Dino Dash could replace him in the tournament and abduct Dixie.

He escaped over a week later by chewing through his handcuffs. Jonas followed Max and Jivin to Sinestro's castle, where he was reunited with his love.

* May have been based off the events from [[CWC More Than A Feeling]] of the [[Liquid Saga]]. His waistcoast and name derive from the [[Wikipedia:Jonas brothers|Jonas brothers]].

;Denubius King

His only appearance is in the Jivin sub-episode. He is a [[niggo|black]] kingpin in pimp attire and carries a pimp cane with an afro on it, called the "Staff of Suffrage". He kidnaps Jivin's father and tries to steal the Pickles family farm to get his hands on the Chaos Pickle they're guarding, but is foiled by Jivin.

;Bullet-Time Montgomery.

First appeared in the Jivin Sub-Episode. He works for Denubius King and is a crack-shot with a revolver. Denubius orders him to kill Jivin, but Jivin knocks him out with "Deus ex BLACKina". He later reappears as a juror at Asperchu's trial.

;[[Rosechu]]
Sonichu's sweetheart. She is seen comforting Simonchu at the funeral for Wild, Punchy and Angelica. Jivin is shown to have sexual fantasies of her. After the funeral, she tells Simonchu that she [[pickle|can satisfy his needs]], which pisses off Magi-Chan. Rosechu later confronts Simonchu and seduces him. It's later revealed that Rosechu cheats on Sonichu all the time; she's also banged Punchy, Naitsirhc, and even Dino Dash. She is later used as a gamble chip to win back Sonichu, but it proves ineffective.

*Rosechu's transgenderism parodies the constant call-out to Chris concerning Rosechu's gender, especially after events in the [[Mailbag]].

;Whispy Sonichu

Punchy's [[slow-in-the-mind]] cousin. Appears at the Chaotic Combo's funeral, barely affected by his cousin's death. Despite being Oriental, Whispy speaks Spanish.

;Larry D. Waltz

Larry D. Waltz is the dean of Normandale Community College. He supplies Sinestro with [[niggos|an African-American]] in exchange for a mysterious disc. When the disk is later stolen by WesLi Chu, he appoints Lisa to get it back. He nearly gets his head taken off by one of Asperchu's Asper-Ha-Me-Has.
*Larry is based on [[Mary Lee Walsh]], and has a resemblance to [[Jimmy Hill]].

;Sitting Chu

Sitting Chu is the head of ALBville's only Soup Hotel. He welcomes those who need refuge with open arms, but he isn't beyond kicking people out, as he did with Asperchu.
*Sitting Chu is based off of the [[Ancient leader of the Cherokee Clan]].

;Jimarcus Chu

A friend of Mitch Chu's. He was a veteran of the Jamaican war, and currently works at the Albville Soup hotel (they only need one) to help CWCville refugees. He's accepting of Noir Chu and helps him adjust, though he, too, is not thrilled by Asperchu's self-centeredness.
*Jimarcus Chu is loosely based on [[Inos]] and his physical appearance is based off of [http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/Little_Jacob Little Jacob]. His name is derived from [[Wikipedia:Jamaica|Jamaica]] and [[Wikipedia:Marcus Garvey|Marcus Garvey]].

;[[Doctor Robotnik]]

It seems that the once-feared nemesis of [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] has fallen on hard times, now working as a cashier at a [[McDonald's]]. He promptly kicks Asperchu out of the restaurant when he attempts to ''seriously'' pay for a $31 meal with food stamps worth $10. He is then killed by Metal Asperchu for his crimes against Bionic.

;Megan and Ivy

Two of the younger Ian's [[gal-pals]]. When the younger Ian defeats his future self in pathetic combat, he attempts to have [[hanky panky]] only to be tazed by Megan.

* Megan and Ivy are based off of [[Megan Schroeder]] and [[Ivy]].

;Principal Blaziken
The overly homosexual principal of Ian's high school. His actions lead Ian to call for help and is killed by Bionic, only for Ian to mistake Asperchu to be the hero.
* Principal Blaziken is based off [[Sonichu 10]]'s Marvey Blaziken and is reminiscent of the principal from Chris's elementary school.

;[[Sammy]]
A hat-wearing, bespectacled individual resembling Chris. Rambles in [[Random-access humor|odd phrases]]. Metal Asperchu obliterates him and everything around him after getting the fifth Chaos Pickle. He later returns, alive and well, as a cushion for Asperchu's fall.
*While he is obviously modeled after [[Sammy]] from ''Sonichu'' (who was in turn a ripoff of [[Family Guy|Peter Griffin]]), he's also taken on some traits from ''Homestar Runner'' character Homsar, who wore a yellow bowler hat and spouted "word salads" and non-sequiturs (which turned out to simply be his native language), such as "All aboard the Gravy Train!"

;Bubastis Chu
Asperchu clone number 18. Originally just another extra for Sinestro's Forte Grosse, Bubastis Chu rose in popularity when she featured in Isabel Monday's [[Capering Berries]] in a spinoff comic. All of her comics are jokes based on the comic/film ''Watchmen'', and she generally annoys her two fathers Sinestro and Larry. Bubastis Chu and Cthulhu Chu are later released by Metal Asperchu in the Asperchu comics.

;[[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)]]
Has a brief cameo appearance during Ian's daydreams. According to her Asperpedia article, Ian, believing himself to be Chris, thought Crystal Weston Chandler was his sister. And being the massive [[Chris and ego|narcissist]] that he is, believed that his ideal partner was [[incest|his closest genetic match]]. Failing to seduce his faux-sister, he instead named his dream daughter after her. Believing Asperia was really Crystal, Ian became jealous of Asperchu. Like Asperia, she wears a [[Pedofork|thong]].
*Crystal is obviously based on his imaginary daughter, but in a humorous twist, looks like Chris's comic drawing of his sister. Thus, the circle of incest is complete.

;Mayorshack Tito
The new democratically-elected mayor of [[CWCville]] after the dethronement of Ian Brandon Anderson. Tito has been tremendously successful in restoring the city to its former glory, bringing life back to the desolate wasteland. Asperchu, for some reason, thinks he's [[niggo|black]].
*Mayorshack Tito is based on the troll [[Surfshack Tito]], who gets his name from Tito Makani Jr. of ''[[Wikipedia:Rocket Power|Rocket Power]]''. Mayorshack Tito's appearance is also based on Tito Makani Jr.

;Noir Chu and Aspercream
[[File:Noir.jpg|thumb|Noir is fed up with this shit.]]
Noir Chu was Sinestro's newest attempt to clone Asperchu by adding a black man named DeShaunn into the mix. However, DeShaunn's girlfriend jumped into the mixture with him and was turned into the rabbit Aspercream. Noir Chu would confront Asperchu and, confused by his memories, would be lead to the Albville Soup Hotel, where he would find his calling there. After being banished by Sinestro for losing Noir Chu, Aspercream ran off to Albville where she was reunited with Noir. When Sonichu ran off to find Ian, Noir Chu takes Asperchu to find and stop them, with Aspercream pleading not to get hurt, SOMEHOW knowing that it was Asperchu who got Magi-Chan killed. Both Noir Chu and Aspercream are wounded in Metal Asperchu's rampage, but survive.
* Noir Chu is based on [[Blake]]. Aspercream resembles [[Wikipedia:Cream the Rabbit|Cream the Rabbit]].

;Princess [[Julie]]

One of the members of the [[Molvanîa]]n Royal Family. She and the others have strong ties with the Rebels of CWCVille.

* Princess Julie is based off of the infamous troll of the same name. Her design, however, is based off of [[Wikipedia: Bobby Hill|Bobby Hill]] of ''King of the Hill''.

;[[Crackder]]

One of Ian's attempts at making sentient war machines. However, it is slow-in-the-mind, rambles off random-access humor and is against war. Asperchu hates him because he's a slow-in-the-mind.

*Crackder is based off of the Decepticon Chris created of the same name.

;[[Yawning Squirtle]]

We don't know how the hell he got off the [[Moon]], but he's off of it and still smoking it up. It was revealed that he was Mayorshack Tito's opponent in the CWCville elections, and currently works as an attorney. His hated rival is Lewis Croagunk, who opposed him in Asperchu's trial.

;[[Mimms]] and Lucas

Two patrons of the Brass Dragon. Mimms sports a wicked green 'fro.

*Both Mimms and Lucas are based off of the CWC informants who frequented the GAMe PLACe. Lucas's design resembles that of [[Wikipedia:Lucas (Mother)|the character of the same name from the ''Mother'' series]].

;[[Rocky]]

A mysterious squirrel with green antenna. He calls Asperchu "dum-dum" and tries to steer him in the opposite direction to make him blameless. In actuality, Rocky is MIPS 09, attempting to steer Asperchu into fulfilling the Anchuent Prophecy.
*While Rocky's design and speech resembles that of [[Wikipedia:Rocky the Flying Squirrel|Rocky the Flying Squirrel]] of the ''Rocky and Bullwinkle'' cartoons and [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|The Great Gazoo]] of ''The Flintstones'', the creature is also a parody of [[Rocky Shoemaker]], Chris's pastoral counselor (although the real Rocky is not as indulgent as the ''Asperchu'' Rocky).

;[[Jimmy Hill]]

Ruler of Molvanîa and Princess Julie's father. Enjoys playing Pokémon trading-card games. When he finds out of Julie's capture, he opts to move out to save her.

*Jimmy Hill resembles the old man used in the earlier Chris trolling schemes, but his mannerisms match more of Hank Hill of ''King of the Hill''.

;Lewis Croagunk

The prosecutor for Asperchu's trial. It is revealed that he is old rivals with Yawning Squirtle and he seems to be a very competent lawyer. Oddly, for a Croagunk, he has a human's head.

*Lewis Croagunk may be a parody of Chris's various court-based characters from ''Sonichu 10''.
*[[Wikipedia:Croagunk|Croagunk]] are a variety of [[Pokémon]].

;Prison inmates

A gathering of the biggest, baddest villains and other faces from various TV shows, including Skullmaster of ''Mighty Max'', Krang from the 1980s ''Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles'' cartoons, Tohru, Finn, and Ratso from ''Jackie Chan Adventures'', and an assortment of Pokémon (most notably a rapist Poliwrath).

;Warden Clawdorf

Warden of the prison Asperchu is locked up in. He's a real [[niggos|black]] [[duck|dick]].

*[[Clawdorf]] is [[Darkbind Sonichu]]'s archnemesis in [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'']] who appears only in a silhouette, which inadvertently resembles a penis with arms. ''Asperchu'' Clawdorf parodies this.

;Gumby

One of children's lovable creations was an inmate in the jail after accidentally killing a child inside a book. He had converted to Christianity and attempted to do so with Asperchu, but only got him to create his own Bible with him as the Son of God. He is wiped from existence after Asperchu leaves him inside his book.
*[[Wikipedia:Gumby|Gumby]] was a [[REAL Protest against the FAKE|C-L-A-Y]] character created by Art Clokey.
;Asperchoso

Asperchu's avatar in his "Second Greatest Story Ever Told". The paragon of manliness and a Son of God, he prevents others from getting girlfriends by blowing their kneecaps out.

*Asperchoso's name is derived from the Rabbichosos from [[Vivian Gee]]'s "[[The Girl Who Took Down The World]]" story. His actions are similar to Chris's in [[Sonichu Special 4]], when he blows Liquid Chris's kneecaps off.

;Poliwrath

A hardened criminal who tried to [[rape|make Asperchu his bitch]] upon his arrival. However, after Asperchu and Gumby escaped into Asperchu's book, he quickly became a convert to Asperchu's "religion".
*[[Wikipedia:Poliwrath|Poliwrath]] are a variety of [[Pokémon]].

===4-Cent_Garbage Center residents===

;[[Naitsirhc]]

Naitsirhc has a brief cameo in the 4-Cent_Garbage Center that Argentum recreates. He is seen alongside [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. He attempts to get Sonichu to calm down, but ends up getting his neck snapped by the hedgehog.

*Unbelievably, Naitsirhc in Asperchu looks ''[[Homos|even gayer]]'', as he sports earrings and crotchless chaps.

;[[Mary Lee Walsh]]

Another one of the inhabitants of the 4-Cent_Garbage Center. When Sonichu tears apart the building, she and Count Graduon go and unleash Joshua Martinez.

*Mary's design in Asperchu borrows largely from ''[[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy VIII|Final Fantasy VIII]]'' villain Ultimecia.

;[[Jason Kendrick Howell]]
Owner of the 4-Cent_Garbage Center. His appearance is identical to that in Sonichu. When he confronts ''Sonichu'', he is killed in the same manner Rosechu attacked him.

;[[Clyde Cash]]
Clyde makes a very brief cameo in Ian's dream in Issue 4, where he's demonstrating his dominance over said troll. It is likely this scene was inspired by [[:Image:325504_-_Chris-chan_clyde_cash.jpg|this piece of fanart.]] According to Asperpedia's article on Clyde, he, [[Brian Bash]] and Dino Dash were all part of an elite government task force at one point in the past. Clyde Cash makes another appearance, this time in the 4-Cent Garbage tower. When Plautistic captures Sonichu, Clyde and Jack go to finish Sonichu. Clyde is shown wearing Spider-Man's pants and boots and is able to shoot webbing from his hands.

*Clyde's design is based off of the picture Chris found of Clyde (actually a photo of Joe Hotti). His having Spider-Man powers is based off of [[No More Jokes|the set of videos trying to troll Clyde]].

;[[Jack Thaddeus]]
Seen in the 4-Cent Garbage Tower alongside Clyde Cash. His appearance is similar to that in Sonichu. He uses the Goblin Glider and Pumpkin Bombs of [[Wikipedia:Norman Osborn|the Green Goblin]].

;[[Count Graduon]]
One of the inhabitants of the 4-Cent Garbage Tower. His appearance resembles a [[duck|penis]]. When Sonichu tears apart the building, he and Mary Lee Walsh free Joshua Martinez. When the creature is destroyed, Joshua tosses him aside.

;Chief Boyd
One of the heads of the COProtectors. Is brutally murdered by Sonichu.
*Based on the [[Jerkhief]] from ''Sonichu''; "COProtectors" is an inversion of "[[jerkop]]".

;[[Bagget]]
Head of security at the 4-Cent Garbage Building. A no-nonsense type of guy, Bagget tries to get Asperchu to reveal where Sonichu is before the hedgehog confronts the two of them. Sadly, Bagget falls to Sonichu.

;[[Wall of Originals|Plautistic]]
A mysterious creature held by those within the 4-Cent Garbage Building bonded with Joshua Martinez When Sonichu goes on a rampage, Mary Lee Walsh and Count Graduon release it. The creature resembles the mythical creature Hydra. Its leaves can be smoked as a type of [[Tobacky|drug]].

;[[Joshua Martinez]]
A Mexican who was once bonded with Plautistic. In the heat of battle, Sonichu tears him from Plautistic, then tears his head off.

;[[Wes-Li Sonichu|Wesli Chu]]
A hedgehog working within the 4-Cent Garbage Building. ACTUALLY knows magic, including his own Anchuent power, Wes-Li-Ha-Me-Ha. He's such a manly man, he can even make full-on [[Megagi|bull dykes]] crave his [[duck]]. After escaping the destruction of the 4-Cent_Garbage Center, the MIPS made him give a data CD to Metal Asperchu. Shortly after, his memory was wiped. It has been revealed that he holds the Chaos Pickle of Chastity.

;[[Giovanni]]
The feared leader of [[Team Rocket]] and gym leader of Viridian City has another job: manager at Wendy's. He was seen in 1999, firing Ian Brandon Anderson after he fell asleep on the job, then promised that he'd never work in the city again. Years later, he takes up residence at the 4-Cent Garbage Building. When his son is killed by Sonichu's hand, he confronts Sonichu, using a small army of Pokémon to stop him. Sonichu uses said Pokémon to kill Giovanni, mostly by impaling him with them.

;[[CADD Chef]]

Killed in the destruction of 4-cent.

;[[Michael Snyder]]
A Jewish magician working for the MIPS. He also runs [[The GAMe PLACe|The Brass Dragon]] and is frustrated by Sonichu's attempts to trade a rare Black Lotus card with a ''Pokémon Ruby'' cartridge. He was responsible for helping Jack and Clyde escape.

;MIPS

Self-aware supercomputers that help run 4-Cent. Michael Snyder reports directly to them and contacts them by pickle-phone. He asks them to help evacuate the building, but they claim they're using up all their resources to [[100 2178|control the realtors]]. They are capable of meeting anywhere, including in space. They are keenly interested in fulfilling the [[Anchuent Prophecy]].
*MIPS are a personification of Chris's paranoid belief in a [[100 2178|conspiracy by the Greene County school board]] to keep his family in Ruckersville so he can stay in his "autistic shell". MIPS is speculated to stand for "[[The Man in the Pickle Suit|Men In Pickle Suits]]".

;[[ScotPalazzo]]

Killed in the destruction of 4cent.

;[[Megagi]] Chu
A purple lesbian skunk who broke Sonichu's heart in the past and has orgies with Saramah Chu, Jiggliami and even Wes-Li. Is killed with Saramah Chu's torn off arms, taunting him to then end.

;[[Sarah Hammer|Saramah Chu]]
A yellow Rosechu who broke Sonichu's heart in the past. Her arms are ripped off, the trauma killing her. However, after the destruction of Metal Asperchu, her Chaos Pickle, Temperance, returned to her and revived and restored her.

;[[Jiggliami]]
A pink Jigglypuff humanoid who broke Sonichu's heart in the past. She is killed when Sonichu punches through her head.

===Chaos Pickles===

The Chaos Pickles are seven magical items of great power. According to Chris, the pickles are within seven special people and, should they be removed, they enable its user to be revived and restored once they are freed again. The avatars are Christian Weston Chandler, Ian Brandon Anderson, Asperchu, Saramah Chu, Wesli Chu, Megan and Lovely Weather.

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Image
!Color
! Trait
! Location
!Avatar
|-
|[[File:Pickle-violet.jpg|50px]]
|Purple
|Kindness
|Owned by the Pickles family; stolen by Metal Asperchu
|Lovely Weather
|-
|[[File:Pickle-blue.jpg|50px]]
|Blue
|Temperence
|Owned by Bionic; given to Metal Asperchu
|Saramah Chu
|-
|[[File:Pickle-green.jpg|50px]]
|Green
|Patience
|Owned by Flame the Sunbird; stolen by Metal Asperchu
|Christian Weston Chandler
|-
|[[File:Pickle-pink.jpg|50px]]
|Pink
|Charity
|Owned by Bionic; given to Metal Asperchu in return for murdering Robotnik
|Megan
|-
|[[File:Pickle-orange.jpg|50px]]
|Orange
|Chastity
|Owned by Sammy; stolen by Metal Asperchu
|Wesli Chu
|-
| –
|Yellow
|Diligence
|Inside Asperchu
|Asperchu
|-
| –
|Red
|Humility
| -
|Ian Brandon Anderson
|}

*The Chaos Pickles parody the [[Sonichu Balls]]. They are each named for one of the [[Wikipedia:Seven virtues#Seven heavenly virtues|seven heavenly virtues]].

==Locations==

===Alzheichu's Home===
This is where Asperchu lives. A junky, decrepit home, Alzheichu makes Asperchu do menial, back-breaking chores. Asperchu's room is a particular mess, covered with various toys and anime posters. It also has an [[Hex Bawx|XBox 360]], which Asperchu constantly plays, especially after his encounter with Dixie Chu. The house's frame is under constant [[stress]], since Grandma Snorlax is always up against it.
* A parody of [[Tour of Chris's house|Chris's house]].

===The Brass Dragon===
A gaming store which Asperchu frequents. This is where Asperchu encounters Dixie Chu and Jonas Chu and attempts to win Dixie's heart. Michael Snyder runs the shop. Asperchu is now officially banned from the store for trying to steal a rare card.
* This is a parody of [[The GAMe PLACe]].

===Pickles Ranch===
Home of Jivin and Dick Pickles, who owned a Chaos Pickle before Metal Asperchu broke in and stole it. Oddly, it has a collection of skeletons.
*Resembles the Skywalker farm from [[Wikipedia:Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope|''Star Wars'']].

===[[CWCville]]===
Before and after Ian Brandon Anderson's reign as mayor, CWCville was a peaceful, beautiful city with flowering fields and a happy populace. Under Ian, however, it turned into a dictatorship that wiped out 70% of the population, all of whom were found distasteful by the mayor. Women are forced into [[dating education|brothels]] as early as Junior High School, and all remaining occupations are in the mayor's mall. The environment was destroyed by his dark energy and the pollution of state Orange Soda factories. An army of Sonichu Nazis carry out the mayor's will and are as intolerant and depraved as he is. Fortunately, thanks to the reconstruction effort, most of the damage has been reversed. Democracy has also been returned thanks to [[Liquid|Chris's]] efforts, and [[Surfshack Tito|Mayorshack Tito]] won the first CWCville election in years.

===Albville===
Neighboring town to CWCville and Asperchu's hometown. Unlike CWCville, it is under a democratic system and accepts people of all races, orientations and creeds. In fact, they receive many CWCville refugees, who are well taken care of in the Albville soup hotel (they only need one). It allied with [[Evan|ECGville]] during a brief war with old [[CWCville|RFCville]] and has since maintained good relations with the town. Founded by Alec Benson Leary, who has since disappeared in [[Sonichu 10|mysterious circumstances]].

===Bionic's fortress===
[[Bionic]]'s base of operations, which was abandoned when [[Liquid|Chris]] came to Sonichu's rescue.
*Based on [[Wikipedia:Dr. Wily|Dr. Wily's]] fortress, as well as Chris's dream of a [[Mailbag 39#In which Chris describes a bad dream for no reason|SKULL-SHAPED factory]] where [[Tobacky|smokers]] were murdered.

===[[4-cent_garbage.com|4-Cent_Garbage Center]]===
The remnants of the 4-Cent_Garbage Center, which was destroyed by Ian, are still being cleaned up by CWCville's citizens. Originally the economic center of the city, it also contained many of Ian's [[trolls|"Undesirables"]] and he [[Twin Falling Towers|flew his mouse-pointer plane into the building]] to destroy it. Many lives were lost, and to this day is considered "Ian's most terrible legacy". Argentum brings Sonichu and Asperchu to the restored Center, where Sonichu climbs the building to confront his father. It is revealed that Ian's airplane did jack shit and it was Sonichu's Roaring Rampage of Revenge that caused the destruction in the first place. Ian was probably blamed for it because he was the only one still alive to take the blame. It is also revealed that it was destroyed during the Chaotic Funeral.
*The 4-Cent_Garbage Center is a combination of [[Sonichu 10|Sonichu_10#Rage_Against_the_Garbage_2:_Electric_Boogaloo|Rage Against the Garbage 2]] and an infamous Chris video mocking [[Clyde]] by comparing him to [[Twin Falling Towers|the destruction of the World Trade Center]].

===Molvanîa===

An oddball East European country. Home of the MIPS and the survivors of the 4-Cent_Garbage Center survivors.
*[[Molvanîa]] was the home of [[Julie]] and [[Max]], named after a fictional East European country created by Tom Gleisner, Santo Cilauro and Rob Sitch.

==Issues==
Thus far, sixteen issues (and one Sub-Episode) of ''Asperchu'' have been released. The confusing issue numbering (0–0A–0B–C–1–2–3–3D–4–5–5E–6–7–8–F–Ten) is a [[parody]] of ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'', which began its issue numbering with [[Sonichu 0|''Sonichu'' #0]] and then complicated the matter with numbered "Episodes" and "Sub-Episodes" (so [[Sonichu 3|''Sonichu'' #3]] is the fourth issue, and contains Episodes 10 and 11 and Sub-Episode 4).
===List of issues===

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! style="background:silver;" | Cover
! style="background:silver;" colspan="2" | Issue
! style="background:silver;" | Title
! style="background:silver;" | Plot summary
|-
| [[File:a0.jpg|150px]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
|Issue #0
|''ASPERCHU'S First Date... and his first villain!''
| Asperchu goes on a date with Lisa, and is tricked into having his medallion stolen. ''First appearance of Asperchu, Max, Jivin Pickles, Lisa, Heaven.''
|-
| [[File:Issue 0A Cover.jpg|150px]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Issue 0A
| ''The challenge of TRUE Piety''
| Asperchu makes a video attacking the trolls, provoking the ire of Christian couple Kendra and John. Grandpa Alzheichu refuses to let Jivin enter his house. John confronts Asperchu over his unChristian attitudes; Asperchu retaliates by forging a new medallion. Lisa tells John that she stole the original medallion. ''First appearance of Grandpa Alzheichu, Sitting Chu, Jormungand.'' ''Only appearance of Calvin, Kendra, John, Micah, Benny Chu, W.E.B. Dubois, various Normandale students.''
|-
| [[File:JIVIN_Issue_0_Page_1.jpg|150px]]
|bgcolor="black" height="10px"|
| Jivin Sub-Episode
| ''Jivin's first solo adventure!''
| Jivin's father is captured by Denubius King, but Jivin rescues him. It turns out that the Pickles family owns one of the fabled Chaos Pickles. ''First appearance of Dick Pickles, Bullet-Time Montgomery.'' ''Only appearance of Denubius King.''
|-
| [[File:Issue 0B Cover.jpg|150px]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
|Issue 0B
| ''Swords and Axes... the Duel of Ages!''
| Jonas Chu defeats Asperchu in a ''Guitar Hero'' tournament, then is kidnapped by Dino Dash. Jivin fails to seduce Dixie. Asperchu makes a weak attempt at impersonating Jonas on YouTube, then fails to prevent Dixie's abduction. ''First appearance of Grandma Snorlax, Sonichu, Dixie Chu, Dino Dash, Sinestro, Jonas Chu.''
|-
| [[File:Issue C Cover.jpg|150px]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
|Issue C
| ''Things are coming to a head!''
| Asperchu is kidnapped by Sinestro, who has created many Asperchu clones. ''First appearance of Christian Weston Chandler, Ian Brandon Anderson, Metal Asperchu.'' ''Only appearance of Autischu, Down Chu, XXY Chu.''
|-
| [[File:Issue 1 Cover.jpg|150px]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Issue #1
| ''The big leagues.''
| Metal seizes Simonchu's drill medallion. Sonichu introduces Asperchu to the Chaotic Combo, and Magi-Chan enters a trance in order to track down Metal - but Asperchu makes him find Dixie instead. Wild tells of the oppression wreaked by Mayor Anderson. Metal takes the first Chaos Pickle from the Pickles family. Sinestro creates Noir Chu and (accidentally) Aspercream. The Combo fight Metal Asperchu, who kills three of them and then finds the second Pickle in a mysterious skull-shaped factory. ''First appearance of Simonchu, Bubbles, Larry D. Waltz, Magi-Chan, Noir Chu, Aspercream, Mitch Chu.'' ''Only appearance and death of Punchy, Angelica, and Wild.''
|-
| [[File:Issue 2 Cover.jpg|150px]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
|Issue #2
| ''The quest for the Chaos Pickles continues.''
| The funeral of Punchy, Angelica and Wild takes place. Metal Asperchu forces the second Chaos Pickle from Bionic, who tells him the owner of the third Pickle: Flame the Sunbird. Rosechu and Simonchu hook up at the funeral (despite Magi-Chan's love for Simonchu), while a confused Noir Chu confronts his clone-brother Asperchu. Mitch Chu brings Noir and Asperchu to Sitting Chu's Soup Hotel in ALBville, where Noir gives up his gun and they meet the Basement Rosechus. Asperchu is kicked out for eating the homeless's food, and attempts to buy a McDonald's meal with food stamps. Metal kills Robotnik in return for Bionic giving him the fourth Chaos Pickle. Silvana murders Bubbles and hacks into Magi-Chan's computer. Bionic then asks that Metal Asperchu bring him Christian Weston Chandler - alive. ''First appearance of Rosechu, Bionic, Silvana.'' ''Only appearance of Whispy, Thomas Jefferson, Flame the Sunbird, Jimarcus Chu, Officer Louis Perez, Moe Chu, Brit-Tay Rosechu, Mary Rosechu, Rosee.'' ''Only appearance and death of Ivo Robotnik.'' ''Death of Bubbles.''
|-
| [[File:Issue 3 Cover.jpg|150px]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
|Issue #3
|'' Taking the battle to the enemy.''
| Sinestro and Waltz unsuccessfully interrogate Aspercream to find out Noir Chu's location. Sonichu 'n' pals try to liberate CWCville. Magi-Chan is murdered by Silvana, who brings Asperchu to Ian Brandon Anderson. Sonichu, Mitch and Simonchu confront IBA, but then Metal breaks in and cuts off Sonichu's hand. Ian enters his Son-Chu suit and fights back. He cripples Metal Asperchu, but is then is set on fire by Metal and thrown from his tower. Metal then activates his four Chaos Pickles and takes on a new form. ''Only appearance of IBA's legion of Sonichus.'' ''Last appearance of Silvana.'' ''Death of Magi-Chan.''
|-
| [[File:Issue 3D Cover.jpg|150px]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
|Issue #3D
| ''Travel through the third dimension... Time!''
| Asperchu, Max and Jivin have been sent back to 1999. 1999-Ian takes them to Manchester High School, and beats up the modern IBA. Bionic then appears and talks to the trio. 1999-Ian molests Ivy, is tasered by Megan and then meets Blaziken, who tries to molest him. Bionic kills Blaziken, but Asperchu claims credit. A distraught Bionic attempts suicide, but Jivin saves him. 1999-Ian mixes Asperchu's comeuppance with his own to create Sonichu. The two Ians then fight, their Curse-ye-ha-me-has crossing to knock our heroes back to their own time. In 2000, Ian gives birth to Sonichu, while in the modern day, Metal Asperchu confronts Asperchu and Ian. ''First appearance of Bill the Scientist, Megan.'' ''Only appearance of Ian's boss, Ivy, Satan.'' ''Only appearance and death of Principal Blaziken.''
|-
| [[File:Issue 4 Cover.jpg|150px]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
| Issue #4
| ''Metal and glass...''
| Asperchu reveals to Sonichu than Ian is his true father. Metal Asperchu takes the fifth Chaos Pickle from Sammy. Asperchu craps out Asperia. Metal demands that Sinestro tell him what the "fourth directive" is. Sonichu, Simonchu and Mitch break into Ian's cell in order to find Sonichu's true origin. Simonchu is captured by Bionic. Asperia eats Grandma Snorlax's foot. Max defeats the Yellow Devil, then Christian Weston Chandler arrives. Bionic shoots Mitch and flees. ''First appearance of Yellow Devil, Cthulhu Chu, Sammy.'' ''Only appearance of Bubastis Chu.'' ''Death of Mitch Chu.''
|-
| [[File:Issue 5 Cover.jpg|150px]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
|Issue #5
| ''The end of one, beginning of another.''
| Ian Brandon Anderson realizes that Asperchu was the part-creator of Sonichu. Mayorshack Tito is the new Mayor of CWCville - CWC shows Asperchu the ruins of the 4-Cent_Garbage Center, and tells Sonichu that Ian is his real father. In a rage, Sonichu hunts down his father, shooting Ian in both knees. The Yellow Devil captures Sonichu, Noir Chu and Asperchu, and brings them to Bionic. Metal Asperchu realizes that the "fourth directive" will work on an immature Asperchu clone. Bionic goads Sonichu into killing IBA, and he accidentally shoots Asperia. Metal creates Argentum, who rebuilds the 4-Cent_Garbage Center. Sonichu climbs the 4-Cent_Garbage Center in order to gain revenge on his father. ''First appearance of Argentum, Slaweel the Witch, Naitsirhc, Jack Thaddeus, Mayorshack Tito, Jason Kendrick Howell.'' ''Death of Cthulhu Chu, Ian Brandon Anderson, Asperia.''
|-
| [[File:Issue 5E Cover.jpg|150px]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
|Issue #5E
| ''A bloody fight.''
| Sonichu fights his way up the 4-Cent_Garbage Center, killing Naitsirhc, Jerkops, Jason Kendrick Howell and Bagget, before being attacked by Plautistic, Jack Thaddeus, Clyde Cash and Joshua Martinez. Sonichu then aims to kill Asperchu, only to be interrupted by Wes-Li Chu, who shows him some "magic". Giovanni then battles Sonichu with his elite Pokémon, who Sonichu defeats. He then reaches "WesLi Chu's Luv Shack", where Megagi Chu, Saramah and Jiggliami mock him and are murdered by him. Sonichu fights Wes-Li again, but is teleported to the top of the 4-Cent_Garbage Center, where he fights Slaweel, who transforms into an Ultimecia-style dragon. Asperchu accidentally kills her by throwing his Xbox Portable into her mouth. The 4-Cent_Garbage Center is destroyed, and Sonichu realizes that Asperchu is also his father. ''First appearance of Michael Snyder, MIPS, Saramah Chu, Wesli Chu, Blazebob Sonichu.'' ''Only appearance of Giovanni, Plautistic, Count Graduon, CADD Chef, Shuckle, Metapod, Castform, Delibird.'' ''Only appearance and death of Jerkops, Bagget, Joshua Martinez, Megagi Chu, Jiggliami.'' ''Death of Naitsirhc, Jason Kendrick Howell, Slaweel the Witch.''
|-
| [[File:Issue 6 Cover.jpg|150px]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
|Issue #6
|''Darkness fears not the Heart.''
| Wesli Chu is imprisoned in Molvanîa by the MIPS. CWC sends Asperchu and Jivin to Molvanîa to find him. Yawning Squirtle is recovered from the wreckage of the 4-Cent_Garbage Center. Wesli steals a mysterious disk from the Dean and gives it to Metal Asperchu, who tells him to kill Argentum. Asperchu 'n' pals go to the Brass Dragon, owned by Michael Snyder. Metal Asperchu scans several people, and then fights our heroes at the ruins of the 4-Cent_Garbage Center. Grandpa Alzheichu dies in defeating Metal. ''First appearance of Princess Julie, Yawning Squirtle.'' ''Only appearance of Crackder, Punislav Royal Guard, GameStop boss.'' ''Death of Noir Chu, Grandpa Alzheichu.''
|-
| [[File:Issue 7 Cover.jpg|150px]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
|Issue 7
| ''Excuses, excuses, excuses...''
| The MIPS plan to set up Asperchu to fulfill the Prophecy. Asperchu meets Heaven in a bar, drinks a beer and decides to take a photograph of Snyder for his dartboard. He attempts vehicular homicide of Snyder, Perez and Grant, and is arrested for causing minor injuries to Michael Snyder. Meanwhile, Bionic tries to cure Sonichu of his possession by Ian, and they seek out Sinestro's help. A squirrel named Rocky tells him that nothing is his fault and that his Asperger's excuses everything. CWC bails him out, but Asperchu demands an apology for being left to wait THREE HOURS at the police station. Asperchu is thrown from their tower, landing on Sammy, and the liberators of CWCville go back to searching for survivors from the 4-Cent_Garbage Center. They recover Saramah Chu, who is somehow still alive. Christian Weston Chandler says that the seven Chaos Pickles are "artifacts of supreme power and energy", and that they have attached themselves to seven "avatars" in order to remain stable in this universe. It is revealed that Asperchu, CWC, Wesli Chu, Saramah Chu and Sonichu are five of the avatars, and two are unknown. Also, Rocky is revealed to the reader to be one of the MIPS. Chris decides to lead a unit to retrieve Sonichu's Pickle. Heaven and Lisa kidnap Asperchu and bring him to Dean Waltz in a bid to retrieve the information that Metal Asperchu gave to the MIPS. Sonichu feels ecstatic after his Pickle is activated. When Chris, Rosechu and Julie come to speak to him, he has them imprisoned; Sonichu seems to have become insane. Meanwhile, Asperchu attacks the Dean with his Asperhameha, and is arrested again. Max and Jivin visit him. Jimmy Hill, King of Molvanîa, is enraged by his daughter Julie's capture, and plans to rescue her. ''First appearance of "Rocky".'' ''Only appearance of GAMe PLACe kids, Gerald Grant.''
|-
| [[File:Issue 8 Cover.jpg|150px]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
|Issue #8
|''Trial by fire!''
| Asperchu unwisely hires Yawning Squirtle to defend him. The jury consists of Reginald Sneasel, Layla Flaaffy, DJ Jamsta, Lolisa Rosechu, Bullet-Time Montgomery, Blazebob Sonichu, Chloe Rosechu and the clerk from Issue 0, while Lewis Croagunk prosecutes. Squirtle makes the feeble counter-defense that Snyder was planning to break into Asperchu's house, pour Wite-Out on his playing cards and wipe his hard drive, but has nothing to back this allegation up with. Sonichu appears as witness, and says that Asperchu is innocent. "Rocky" convinces Asperchu to dismiss his lawyer and represent himself. Sonichu and Asperchu begin a pointless argument as to who is "true and honest", and Sonichu freaks out and flees the courtroom. Jimmy Hill breaks into the courtroom and retrieves his daughter Julie. Asperchu receives life imprisonment. Sonichu appears to have absorbed too much of Ian's personality, and is thrown from Fort Grosse by Argentum. ''Only appearance of Lewis Croagunk, Reginald Sneasel, Layla Flaaffy, DJ Jamsta, Lolisa Rosechu, Chloe Rosechu.'' ''Last appearance of Bullet-Time Montgomery, Blazebob Sonichu.''
|-
| [[File:Issue F Cover.jpg|150px]]
|bgcolor="yellow" height="10px"|
|Issue #F
| '' Three guesses what the F stands for...''
| Argentum has sent Chris, Sonichu, Sinestro and Bionic to bizarre worlds.
*Chris sees a perfect Sonichu facing CWC-Botnik, whom he easily kills. Chris realizes that this is not the real Sonichu, as he has no idea who Benny Chu (from ''Asperchu'' #0A) was.
*A now-mobile Bionic finds himself the beloved son of a "Rollin' and Trollin'"-style Ian Brandon Anderson. Chris releases him from the fantasy world.
* Sinestro is met by Naitsirhc, who brings him to Slaweel. Sinestro realizes that all this is false. Mary offers him the sixth and seventh Chaos Pickle, but Sinestro realizes that it's an illusion. He punches a hole in reality and goes to meet CWC. The avatars of the final two Pickles emerge: Megan and Lovely Weather. Argentum goes to seek the other avatars.
*The diseased Sonichu struggles through a strange forest to confront the deceased Mitch Chu, who reminds Sonichu of all the evil he did in Ian's name. Sonichu becomes completed possessed by Ian's essence, becoming... Chris-Chan Sonichu.

Meanwhile, in the real world, Asperchu finds prison life difficult - he is attacked by a Skullmaster and almost raped by a Poliwrath, but saved by Gumby, who decides to protect him and teach him to be a Christian. Asperchu rewrites the Bible as ''Asperchoso''. Gumby then introduces Asperchu to Jesus Himself, but Asperchu isn't very interested. Asperchu and Gumby escape the other prisoners by jumping into ''Asperchoso''. Once there, Asperchoso shoots Gumby in the shins, and Asperchu escapes the book. Poliwrath becomes a devotee of Asperchoso, and Asperchu erases Gumby from the Book, killing him.

Chris and Julie arrive to break Asperchu out of prison, in order to protect him and his Chaos Pickle from Argentum.

Meanwhile, Bionic creates a holographic version of the Ian who loves him.
 ''First appearance of Lovely Weather.'' ''Only appearance of CWC-Botnik, Skullmaster, Krang, Blaziken, Poliwrath, Jesus, Asperchoso, various prisoners.'' ''Only appearance and death of Gumby, Warden Clawdorf.''
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|''It's time.''
| Issue Ten has begun with Asperchu describing "LITTLE BIG AUTISM", in which he talks of [[Asperger's syndrome]] in ''[[LittleBigPlanet|LittleBigPlanet 2]]''. He awakes on Julie's airship and the coalition aims to defeat Argentum.
 ''First appearance of Groovan.''
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==External links==
*[http://asperchu.thecomicseries.com/ ''Asperchu'' site]
*[http://www.hsienko.com/asperchu/index.php?title=Main_Page Asperpedia]

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SilentThunder: I fucked up the formatting when I added

Talk:Tomgirl Pictures

2011-05-11T05:03:17Z

SilentThunder: /* How long has he been toying with 'Tomgirl'? */

In case anyone's wondering, the images are called "TG#" because TomGirl. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
* '''MY EYES!''' CAN NOT UNSEE! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)CFA

Is there ANY backstory to this?!? What I don't understand is that he 1) went into PUBLIC wearing this stuff (there's a picture of him at his mall) and 2) It looks like he shaved his underarms in one or two pictures...WHY?! Dear God why?! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 19:26, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
* Pretty sure he always shaved his underarms. I don't know why I know that. --[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 19:38, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:I guess you don't understand hygiene, 4Macie. That's besides esthetics. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 06:02, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*Yes but A. This is Chris, hygiene is a foreign word to him and B. Its aesthetics. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:35, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
:The article could use some clarification as to what the hell is going on here. There's gotta be some sort of story behind this. What's the deal? This is some of Chris's weirdest antics yet. Just when you think the lulcow ran dry... [[User:Abyssal|Abyssal]] 19:42, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

Note that both ears are pierced, not just the gay ear (see: cucumbers on eyes pic). Also, that's his real hair and the images aren't censored; he's wearing a g-string. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: Are they really pierced or are they those clip on/magnet ones?? Is there anyway we can tell?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:04, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:: They're real. Trust me. If they were clip ons, there would be more of an indent. I'm also pretty sure that clip ons are bigger. The ones I had as a kid certainly were, and I was pretty into those things. [[User:PedoforkBait|PedoforkBait]] 20:08, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::: That would make sense...I bet the ring/hoop ones are fake though, there's no hole for them in other pictures (unless he got them later). And why are they so oddly placed?? They aren't on the lobe like they should be...unless they've changed where they put them now (I got mine when I was 7). Or...could he have done them himself??? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:::: They are real. Also, I'm not aware of any way to have a stud clip-on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 20:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
*At this point, he's gotta be fucking with us. He wants to gross us out, so we don't bother him. --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 20:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: You think he pierced his ears to get us to leave him alone? [[User:PeachyKeen|PeachyKeen]] 20:20, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

He's using a real camara to take his picture in some of these, that's unusual. I wonder what the poor guy who had to develop them was thinking. O_o [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 20:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

This is probably a long shot, however I really think he did this for a girl. Most likely a girl who liked to dress up as a guy and wanted Chris to do the same. Or it's a really, really good troll. Either way, whoever made him do this is really good at what they do, because these pictures are FUCKING DISGUSTING. [[User:Mikau|Mikau]] 20:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: [[:File:TG3.jpg|"...when the government fears the people, there is liberty"]]. I'm sure this new heartsweet has her Guy Fawkes mask ready. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 02:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
* Let me tell you something, and like I said, this really isn't really the place to say it. But nonetheless, whenever I try to rationalize what Chris does, I usually get disappointed because the simple fact of the matter is - Chris is just fucked up.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

The saddest thing about all this is that this didn't even suprise me in the slightest, I wasn't even mildly shocked to see Chris in drag, or even with a sock on his flacid manhood. --[[User:Gustofwind|Gustofwind]] 21:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: many are saying it isn't a sock...it's a g-string. You can't see the strings holding it up because of his gut roll over but when he does the picture of his butt, you can see the black thong part in the crack.....if you REALLY want to look that is. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

Goddaemnd monkey-assed hell. Well, what do we do with this page? Start describing shit? In fuckin' ''detail''?! It could stand as is, like the CWCki's own personal 'shock page'...--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:00, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

INFO, somebody has it. Where are the pictures from? Did he upload them somewhere? Or is it old stuff made public by trolls? --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:It's all recent and Clyde got it by hacking Chris' PSN. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 22:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::Excellent, this, coupled with the PSN being down, is probably the best chance we'll get at him returning. --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::PSN has been offline for a week all because of these photos, spread the word [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 22:15, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:::In the meantime, someone try to find an appropreate picture of King Hippo from the Captain N cartoon; he also crossdresses, and he's also a fat, useless, discolored retard.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:17, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

In some of these, he looks uncannily like a fat version of Buffalo Bill. [[User:Vulture-chan|Vulture-chan]] 22:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

I was about to ask if the PSN take down made him go further down the crazy hole o_o [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:Chris has been at this a while, and you can tell because growing out hair takes a while. The PSN going down was coincidence. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 00:49, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
I also love the claims that he is "straight". Yeah, Chris is as "straight" as a circle >_> [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:34, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: Circle? Try "ampersand." --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:25, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

here's something everybody should think about: chris is wearing his mom's clothes. i mean surely he didn't pay for any of this shit when there are MOUNTAINS of free clothes blocking up whole rooms of his house. [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 00:36, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
:Already wore his mum's underwear that one time. Wouldn't be a new thing for him. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 01:19, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

I wonder if Bob has caught this yet. [[User:Westbound|Westbound]] 05:08, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

*Guys, please, remember - this page is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. Srsly, I told you fuckers that that ModNation Racer character wasn't Crystal.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:22, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

Anyone with some solid info about this? Do this is a new saga? Who asked him to dress that way? Do we got any metadata linked to the picture so we can have time/date info? This is the best update for months and we got so little info on it. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 06:00, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*I can talk to Tito about getting the raw images so we can get some metadata behind these.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 30 April 2011 (PDT)
*Could he be trying to be Crystal the Imaginary Twin sister? He tends to stick to the stripey clothing and jeans, which is pretty much what she wore [[User:PoppyPink|PoppyPink]] 00:24, 30 April 2011 (GMT)

*This is pure speculation, but do you think it's Mic, the one girl he talked about in the Autism Tutorial?--[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 07:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

The updates are few an far between, but when they come, they are fascinating. I especially like how the Sailor Moon poster is in some of the the pics. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 17:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

This is going to kill Bob. Chris has evolved into a Snorlax. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 04:01, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

Well, there goes the theory of "Chris actually got his shit together and has begun leading a semi-normal life". [[User: GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:02, 1 May 2011 (EST)

== Disturbing revelation ==

*[http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg This pic] raises several disturbing things. First off, If you look in the background, you see the journey's sign. Why does this matter you ask?
[http://www.simon.com/mall/MallDirectoryPrint.aspx?id=117 Fashion Square Mall Directory]
Journey's in the section labeled G on the map. Right near exact center of the mall, meaning he walked around like that near small children. It also explains where he might have picked up everything, for the women's Belk is right around the corner. The disturbing part is he walked around the mall a hop skip and a jump from where I work! And before you ask, no I didn't see him drag. Side note, he is wearing his ring again, see [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg this pic]. Also, there is a piercing pagoda in the mall. In summation, he got pierced, did up and bought his tranny clothes all in the mall most likely. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
: Is [http://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg this sign] somewhere in the mall? Is this part of some sort of cross-dressing awareness event, and is Chris just taking part? [[User:Turnabout|Turnabout]] 22:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
**It looks like the chalkboard Chris drew on in [[Chris's Big Night Out II]], which is in Charlottesville. That doesn't look like Chris's handwriting, so I think it's safe to assume he has a new, masculine gal-pal. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 10:25, 30 April 2011 (PDT)
*That chalkboard is the free speech wall on the downtown mall. You know where he did the sonichu dash vid? Same location. It's at the end down near the post office and right near a merry go round. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:20, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*Maybe something worth adding, additional horror: "Basically this is what Crystal would look like."--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 12:57, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

== Info? ==

Is there ANY background to this? Like: where did he get the term "TomGirl" and why does he think it means to dress up like a girl? (aka: this is cross-dressing...not being a "TomGirl") I guess it was said that this was hacked off his PS3 (PSN)..but WHY was it there in the first place?? He obviously took them for someone...he wouldn't have taken pictures of himself in drag if it was solely for his own viewing...would he??? I guess..
TL;DR: Is there any information about this??? Someone has to know something! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
* Well [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomgirl Wikipedia] Explains a tomgirl is a reverse tomboy, a guy who acts girly, a femboi in essence is a tomgirl. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 21:06, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
::Hmmm...well that's a start. Though I think Chris took this one a little too far for it to still be "TomGirl"ish... Now we just need the WHY I guess. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:11, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
:::For the love of fuck just shut up and wait for the inevitable infodump that will explain everything.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:28, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
::::*True, though pretty much what's going on has already been explained by [[Tito]] [http://789chan.org/cwc/res/53442.html here]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:19, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

*Sweet merciful Jesus, he..he finally snapped, or he finally accepted it, just...wow. [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 21:32, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

Is the chalkboard Jefferson quote Chris' handwriting? If it is, think we should pothole something about how his political views have so radically changed since his congressional address? By the way, who did the Silence of the Sonichus comic? Give him my praise. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]]
*probably not. It's the freespeech wall. Plus, given Chris's shitty handwriting, I doubt it.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:56, 7 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

== Preexisting gender determination issues ==

There is so fucking much up with this guy I don't even know where to start, but cross-dressing is the tip of the fucking iceberg here. CWC genuinely has no masculine features except his receding hairline, and his fat distribution and build are very effeminate. (Not feminine - he looks androgynous leaning away from male.) The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.

The thing here is to compare Chris to relatively masculine fatasses. Moobs that size on masculine men are usually accompanied by a pretty big stomach, and while CWC's breasts are obviously almost 100% the result of fat distribution, a massive amount of his excess fat is in typically female areas, i.e. hips, thighs, ass, etc.

The other side of the coin is that CWC has a lot of the features of abandoned or half-hearted male feminization - box tits with flat, weird nipples; an extremely protruberant but generally formless ass; the general fat and body pattern of a long post-menopause woman. In short, these people look like the Snorlax (as CWC has begun to) because, like her, the last major influence on their secondary sexual features is still high estrogen levels that are no longer significant enough to have a major effect.
Other relevant features of male-to-female transition, either medically or anecdotally ubiquitous, are the softening of body hair, the mild regrowth of scalp hair, emotional upheaval, sexual dysfunction, and massive mood swings. The last three of those are also attributable to testosterone therapy in patients with previously low testosterone levels.

I'm not saying I'm sure there's some kind of congenital or external source of hormone problems for sure, but it seems pretty likely to me that either he was on testosterone for a brief period in response to an indifferent puberty from some sexual condition (possibly explaining his sudden and totally incomplete sexual awakening at 16) or he was, at some point between then and now, medicated with anti-androgens or even some kind of low-level female hormone regimen, either clinically or domestically. (There are reasons that were then and are partially now considered medically reasonable for doing that - chemical castration, for one, for instance when a poorly-managed autistic teenager develops a raging and violently-ideated libido - but God only knows why things happen under that fucking roof.)

TL,DR: Chris might have girl parts and either his parents fucked with his endocrine system at a young age or things with his new boyfriend-free heartsweet are going to get weirder before they make perfect sense.
I've been suspicious of this since his first nudes went up, and this is just icing on the cake. And if you guys think he's a lulcow while he's trying to be a man...

:nah he's just a dumb fatty -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 02:41, 1 May 2011 (PDT)
::I have to agree with Acousticvirgin on this. While your theory is quite interesting...most of this can be explain just by looking at Chris and his family. Chris's family had him at a really old age. His mom was almost in menopause and his father was already a senior citizen. The father at such an old age could be a factor in Autism (it's a scientific theory) and his mother having him so close to menopause could be the reason for any hormonal imbalance (it's a scientific fact that when women are older when a child is born that hormonal imbalances can occur, ESPECIALLY if that older woman doesn't take the prenatal vitamins...). The fat distribution of Chris can be explain by either the hormonal imbalance or by the fact that he doesn't really move all the much, much less work out (or both combined). If you look at pictures of him in his HighSchool years he's a LOT thinner...most likely due to a high metabolism since he didn't work out and wasn't in sports. With his age he's either lost that metabolism or he's out-eating it, either is a possibility. The fact that he doesn't work out at all and doesn't really move around all that much means that there's going to be limited muscles there and much more fat. His arms are skinny because men usually don't get a whole bunch of fat there; his legs are kinda chunky, but men get that too. His butt, gut, and thighs are fat simply because that's where the fat goes. Now, the manboobs. Some men get moobs whether or not they have some gender issue...Chris on the other hand has a set that is way too big to be normal. This could be because of the hormonal imbalance from birth, OR because he doesn't work that muscle out at all. Most men do some form of exercise for that muscle whether or not they go to the gym. They lift things, they carry things, or just daily movement will work out the pectorals for men. The fact that this particular muscle gets NO exercise or movement from Chris could mean that the pectorals are much more fat than muscle. His sexual inexperience until 16 can be explained by parenting and by his autism. His parents never had any reason to discuss his puberty with him so he never really understood sex or masturbation until he saw it in a movie, and now that he does, he still only does it 1 or 2 times a week...quite abnormal for a boy/man from puberty to about 40 years old (age after puberty varies of course). Some autistics are asexual and never have sex throughout their lives because they don't understand sex nor do they really understand/want any kind of romantic relationship. The fact that Chris wants one so badly means nothing; he's shown that he doesn't really understand relationships and treats them like a 8 year old would. ===> TL,DR: Chris's parents had him at too old an age, that along with the fact that he's overweight and doesn't work out at all has made him who he is today... and more likely than not...it'll only get worse. (These pictures show an increased weight since the last time we've seen him; especially in the face and chest.) And Chris wants sex just because he doesn't want the title VIRGIN, he really has no sex drive.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:17, 1 May 2011 (PDT)
:::Now, we have to remember that Chris is very simple. When he had to choose between his console and his galpal, and he chose the galpal, he demanded to have the consol as well, because he did the right thing. Just like in the movies. Chris doesn't necessarily understand love or attraction, he merely knows that relationship is a good thing, and it should be desired. In his simple mind, a relationship with a woman means perfect, neverending happiness that will fix all his problems. [[User:Vergilius|Vergilius]] 13:08, 1 May 2011 (PDT)

*I'm inclined to agree with Acousticvirgin here as well. I think a more plausible explanation though, is that due to DA [[autism|AUTISM]], Chris doesn't understand gender as a construct very well and so goes crazy with it. Or Chris could just be stupid. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:55, 2 May 2011 (PDT)

:Interesting theory, but I disagree with it. Klinefelter's patients tend to have unnatural looking body proportions (extremely long limbs, wide hips, short torsos), and have normal levels of intelligence (remember, Chris was on the Honor Roll). I don't think his bizarre fat deposits are caused by any meiotic disorder like Klinefelter's, but rather terrible diet fucking with his body, raising his estrogen levels, and causing him to develop gynecomastia. Once that happens, it causes him to have female-like fat deposits. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:01, 1 May 2011 (EST)

*My two cents, for what it's worth. The moobs appear to be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynecomastia Gynecomastia] In short, estrogen made him grow boobs. Estrogen would also explain why his voice is in the annoyingly high pitched range. As for [http://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Klinefelter's_syndrome Klienfelter's Syndrome], the man child does in fact track rather well. Compare to this [http://www.andrologyjournal.org/content/vol29/issue6/images/large/andr-29-6-605-f01.jpeg Pic of man with Klienfilter's syndrome]. Thing is,[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditions_comorbid_to_autism_spectrum_disorders Autism is comorbid], so odds are it isn't just autism. In summation, odds are Chris has da autism and some kind of glandular disorder. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:43, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
----Oh, and here I thought that point had already been shot down half a dozen other times and people’d actually read other bad theories before posting theirs. There's absolutely no sense to this theory, or for that matter anything remotely empiric behind it, but plenty plain to sight that shows it's impossible: Only people who don’t understand how gene expression and hormones work could think it makes sense. I don’t know where to start, there’s so much nonsence in that theory I might as well start picking it out.
> ''fat distribution and build are very effeminate...''
:What? Really, and here I thought comparing photos with a baseline would be easy, even for e-doctors. There’s hardly anything about that fat distribution that’s female. The fat went almost exclusively to his abdomen when he was just [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Cwcbraorig.JPG overweight], that’s the type of adipose distribution you get with testosterone. What’s more, the manboobs are dead common in obese men, you’re not just going to get the visceral [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:WantWoman.jpg FA5] type gut fat, but also tit fat, so by your standards [http://img.wikinut.com/img/4-hz_myuqu_9-u51/jpeg/0/Serious-obesity.jpeg fatguy here’s a dickgirl]. The fact that excess estrogens and mostly androgens(which worsen that acne) wind up being made by all that extra fat isn’t intersex.
''>he looks androgynous leaning away from male.''
:And just how? A prominent [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:100_2296.JPG gablela/brow] isn’t gender neutral, neither is his [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG21.jpg square morphing into a pear face shape], he certainly has no problem in growing facial hair as these last photos show, his jawline isn’t slender even if the fat makes it hard to make out, that nose is kind of big & like the other features testosterone promotes their growth. Oh and his hairline is quite [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg high] around the temples and frontal, another manly trait. His face isn’t androgynous or gender neutral at all.
>''The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.''
:It’s all wrong. If it actually were a urogenital intersex condition it’d have almost certainly been handled in a hospital by specialists, given how surgery is screened to more qualified MD, the chance of a inept hick doctor is nil. Never mind the fact that his dick doesn’t look like what you normally get from the infant sex assignment, and that his body certainly doesn’t match the phenotype you’d get with 5ARD Kleifeters or PAIS. The whole bit about his hairline ,[http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/a/ad/Personalprofile.jpg acne] and facial structure being too [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/6/67/0793-CWCIs24-2.jpg androgenized] and all.
Probably the most important thing about it all is that '''Autism is not something that correlates with estrogen'''. [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3040206/ Testosterone has a demonstrated casual role] in altering the expressions of genes to induce it, where as estrogen prevents it. Also Cohen’s research indicates that there is a very strong correlation for biomarkers indicating increased testosterone exposure/sensitivity and autism. So no, the idea of Chris being Estrogen dominant and ASD is nonsence. I could keep going on point by point on everything that’s wrong with this theory, but I think the point’s certainly been made. This theory keeps coming from people who just don't get how it works, so an overkill was in need.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:14, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
----

*The prominent nipples are a dead giveaway to gyncomastia. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:21, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
:Have you ever looked at a fat man? Their nipples are enlarged, it's something that's induced by the adipose building up there, that's pseudogyncomastia. Unless if he's been sneaking his mother's premarin there isn't going to be much in the way of nodules there. It's possible that the adipose leads to more hormones and aromatase makes some of them into estrogen, but that's a common enough thing in the obese. It's an analogue to that why they also have higher DHT levels.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:25, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
:Which leads back to the crux of the question, is his moobs due to him being a fatass or him being a fatass makes him have moobs? Either way, he clearly has hormone issues. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 13:28, 3 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*cool theory doc but have you considered that he is a fat dummy who is fat and dumb and smells like dumb fat -Dr.[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 20:56, 2 May 2011 (PDT)

== Congratulations ==

Congratulations Chris (Or should I say Christina) You have finally come to terms with your sexuality and gender issues. The road ahead may still be windy but at least now you can be happy its the right track. I've never seen you so happy and content and this all of your doing. no manipulation here.

You might find love now that you have found yourself.

Go forth my Child.
--[[User:Bentduck|Bentduck]] 19:02, 1 May 2011 (PDT)

== Seriously guys ==

Next person who posts something not related to improving this page gets (temporarily) banned. This is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:53, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
* Well, don't know if it should be added to the picture captions but on the pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg A] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG4.jpg B] They are taken on the downtown mall. Pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg C] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg D] were taken in the Fashion Square mall, where the piercing pagoda is. And Finally, [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg Picture C] he is wearing his high school ring it but can't really tell. Unsure if linking to the downtown mall and the fashion square mall would be uneeded piping. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:50, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
* It might be worthwhile to note the bizarre horizontal flipping of some images. [[User:Smokedaddy|Smokedaddy]] 01:01, 3 May 2011 (PDT)

== Contactin' C for article material ==
Mmkay, well, do we still have Chris's email address? Can we still reach him on online chats or whatever? Is there no way someone can get hold of him and gently interrogate him about HOLY CRAP CHRIS WHAT THE FUCK and add some substance and reasoning to the insanity displayed on this page? I'm sure he won't mind the attention. I'd volunteer, but, uh, Chris fucking scares me. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 12:22, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
:<s>If only we'd thought of that sooner. I'll contact all the trolls and let them know.</s> Chris doesn't answer emails or phonecalls. He's virtually impossible to contact unless you already have a foot in the door. If you did contact Chris, he would be largely unresponsive and then ignore you. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:27, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
::Mmmkay, fair enough. How about friends/family/people unfortunate to exist in Chris's general vicinity? The freak went out in public like this; somebody has to know something. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 10:44, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:::*Lurk moar.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:53, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
::::Mmm. I used to be so good at it. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 15:08, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Sandals ==

A rather minor point I'm sure, but as someone who has worked in a shoe store, is it worth pointing out that those sandals are clearly too small for Chris? Possible as a caption under the thumbnail? [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 09:41, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:Chris is a cheap bastard who gets almost all his clothes (in fact, pretty much anything but his video game crap) second-hand; I don't think he's ever been very concerned with picking stuff that actually suits him (though whether this stuff "suits" Chris probably depends on the definition you're working with). As long as it goes on his ever-widening frame without garotting him, he's happy. Of course, maybe you can work a mention of it into the "Chris and Fashion" article... [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 10:48, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:: Yeah i figured, but that looks almost painful how small those are on him [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 14:37, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
::: Living Chris's life also looks pretty painful. He's too dense to notice either. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 15:08, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== So that surprise... ==

Do we still need that "So you know that surprise" picture on this page? I understand why it was there when this page was started but I'm not sure if it should stay. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:13, 5 May 2011 (PDT)
:My opinion counts for nothing, given my n00b status, but I'd say keep it. Adds some drama. --[[User:Redcynic|Redcynic]] 22:19, 5 May 2011 (PDT)
:When I uploaded the images, I wasn't really thinking and assumed that it was part of what had been found from Chris. I think that, as with all images of this sort, if there's a better version or a better image can be made that conveys a similar "message", it should be replaced. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 03:35, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
*I think for the sake of completeness, it should stay. Obviously the uploader of the images added this for a reason, perhaps to set the mood, and the uploader's artistic intent in presenting these images should be preserved.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:51, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

==Reversed images==

If you use the DSi's front camera that is in between the two screens, the picture will end up reversed like in Chris's pictures. I would upload a picture or something to show it, but I can't find my sd card -_-

Aside from that, I thought Chris had a camera?? I dunno why he'd stick to his DSi, unless he was planning on sticking around at the mall to use his old attraction techniques. Unlikely.

Probably. [[User:Brown kitty|Brown kitty]] 15:53, 6 May 2011 (PDT)
*Because Chris is a lazy fucker. Why bring a camera when he just use his always on hand DSI? Same reason he uses the PSEYE instead of a proper webcam. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:59, 7 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

==The "Silver Ring" Thing==

Are we sure about the whole "Silver Ring of Purity" thing? It looks quite far fetched, including the idea that Chris's stance on [[F Abstinance|abstinence]].It just looks like his high school ring all over again. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:24, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

==The Asperchu Medallion==

When did this happen? Is Chris still making medallions? Has he not given up on Sonichu? Why Asperchu? He hates Asperchu.
: [[02 March 2010|lurk moar]] --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 21:08, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Tank top ==

Chris's tank top appears to be [http://www.kohls.com/kohlsStore/juniors/tops/tankscamis/PRD~751436/SO+Striped+Ribbed+Tank.jsp from Kohl's], the color he got is currently sold out so here's [http://resources.shopstyle.com/sim/bf/ab/bfabbd0c07bb40895e30c6cc1acd2f1d/kohls-tanks-so-striped-ribbed-tank.jpg another pic of it], although the colors don't line up the same, maybe it's different in the size he wears. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 23:57, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Cost of his Ensamble ==

Looking at a few of his items, It seems like Chris's outfit is not exactly expensive. For instance, that nail polish is $0.99 Wal-Mart brand. Not sure if this is even relavent to the page, but I think it would be interesting to figure out how much All his stuff would cost. Perhaps as a single sentance in Chris and Money, or Chris and Fashion perhaps? --[[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 11:06, 8 May 2011 (PDT)
* It's Chris we are talking about. Assume that he paid 5$ for the whole outfit at Goodwill. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 11:20, 8 May 2011 (PDT)
** Fair enough --[[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 11:31, 8 May 2011 (PDT)

== How long has he been toying with 'Tomgirl'? ==

A picture from CWC's "Sonichu Episode 1" LBP level, taken about a month ago: http://lbp.me/p/0gqk21 --[[User:Henry Bemis|Henry Bemis]] 23:00, 9 May 2011 (PDT)
:He always had that "female equivalent" thing going on with that imaginary twin sister of his. Chris's mind is a typhoon of incomprehensible insanity (and, probably, reams of potential psychological theses); could've been building up for years for all we know. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 06:40, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
:: Don't forget that he's always thought that girls should play with "boy toys" like Transformers and boys should play with "girl toys" like My Little Pony. And I quote, "if you're a young gentlemen, I suggest you buy yourself a...My Little Pony figurine, of your favorite color...or whatever. Stroking the hair of said pony, is very relaxing..like rubbing it against your cheek." He thinks this will help you understand the ladies. And the "girls should get Transformers to understand how a boy works..." <= that's from the future message video he made 2-3 years ago. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 07:56, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
:Chris didn't do that. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 09:34, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
::* Chris didn't do what?? Everything mentioned up til this point of this section has been true... :P --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 16:32, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
::for people who haven't played littlepigblanket... anyone can go into a level and attach shit to other shit and take photos of it. so it was one of chris's many fans who made sonichu into a transvestite just to be funny, unaware that that this photo would actually give chris a boner -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 16:41, 10 May 2011 (PDT)

*This might explain a bit of Chris's sexual issues. If he is transgendered/transexual (Can never remember which is which), then it would explain why he acts the way he does and his obsession with crystal. If truly transgender, he would fantasize about having sex with guys but as a woman and not a gay man. Given Chris's general 'tard tendencies, he may not realize he is not gay but simply wanting to be a female. Food for thought.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:26, 10 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
** "Transsexual" is written with two S, but no, I don't think it's the case. (And totally not just because I don't want Chris to make transsexuals look bad.) His identity is too obviously masculine, even grotesquely so. Not to mention his persistent misogyny; if he thinks women are little more than shopping-obsessed sex-dispensing automata, why would he want to be one? - [[User:LucidFox|LucidFox]] 18:37, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
:Same reason preachers revile gay sterotypes on sunday and suck dick on monday. Maybe he just likes cross dressing.[[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:00, 10 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*** Lucid, I just want to point out that, in a way, Chris conformed to those female stereotypes.
Perhaps I'm just being slow in the mind but isn't that exactly what he'd want to be?*I really think we need to just say it like it is. Chris does this in the hopes of getting "china". He heard somewhere that "tomboys" are defined as ___________ and came to his own conclusion (as he's known to do... EXAMPLE: Recycling his navy gravy...) that a "tomgirl" would be defined as...well you've seen the pictures and that tomboys would like tomgirls because they "go together". It's for china people, there's no other motive. Chris doesn't want to "be a woman" and he's not trying to be "Crystal". He just wants china and thought this would help him get it...all that's left to know is: Did he do this all by himself? Or is this a new sweetheart sega? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:10, 10 May 2011 (PDT)

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== Voicemail ==

Should we add a mention of the new voicemail message? I know its really minor, but still might be worth a mention. --[[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 20:58, 9 May 2011 (PDT)

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If nobody feels up to it I might do a summary of this after college finals are over. --[[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 22:02, 5 May 2011 (PDT)

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[[Image:Jack's Knight as William Spicer.jpg|thumb|right|180px|Artist's conception. Bad artist, but still.]]

{{quote|Isn't there a white knight upon a fiery steed?|Chris, [[CWC Music Video Holding Out For a Hero|CWC Music Video ~ "Holding Out For a Hero"]]}}

'''White knight''' is a term used to describe someone who goes on the Internet to help or defend someone else on the Internet against other people on the Internet out of pity or compassion. White knighting of Chris is especially prevalent because of the unprecedented amount of abuse he has taken, which in turn is caused by Chris's total inability to heed the white knights in his life.

'''Counter-trolls''' are those who take Chris's side to spite his legion of [[trolls]]. Some do this because trolling one gullible idiot is less satisfying than trolling trolls, who actually have the ability to understand what is going on. Others have decided that Chris has jumped the shark and are trying to make everyone else leave him alone to put a stop to an old meme. Counter-trolls are not to be confused with [[anti-troll]]s, who fight trolls in order to get closer to Chris and troll him themselves.

A meta-topic within the broader Chris saga has been the merits of attempting to help Chris stop being such an epic lulzcow, and whether he is deserving of such assistance or even beyond help. The consensus on forums such as the talk page for Chris's [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] article, /cwc/, [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC]], and [[Sonichu (IRC chat)|#sonichu]] is that Chris's [[racism]], [[Chris and Sex|homophobia]], and [[Chris and his Ego|narcissism]] make him beneath contempt; and that he has consistently refused to take advice given to him in good faith. White knights and counter-trolls are considered to be wasting everyone's time and trolls have little patience for them.

==Motives==

===Pity===
Following the release of Chris's first [[nudes|nude photos]] and the [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 21st, 2008|21 October 2008 video]] in which he reacted to the loss of his [[medallion]]s and [[Blanca]], many people, including trolls, felt sorry for him. They had not expected it to be possible for him to be trolled so hard or for him to appear so shattered.

===Empathy===
The Internet is full of autistic people, man-children, and self-absorbed morons. Many of them are right here, fascinated with Chris-chan. All of them see something of themselves in him, whether it's his all-consuming need for female companionship or his fervent belief that his homemade comics matter. A lot of white knights have made at least some of the mistakes Chris has made and have since wised up. They think they can help improve Chris by offering the benefit of their experience.

BAAAAAAAW! ''[[Kick the Autistic]]'' is a cruel game. Quit it!

===Circumstances beyond Chris's control===
There is ongoing debate about whether Chris is actually [[autism|autistic]]. Regardless, there is clear evidence that he suffers from serious mental deficiencies of some kind.

Chris [[fail]]s to identify people, a possible sign of [[Wikipedia:Prosopagnosia|Prosopagnosia]]. [[BlueSpike|Julie and her brother Max]] used the same voice, and yet Chris couldn't recognize that they were the same person. Pictures of different women were used to depict [[Blanca]], and yet Chris thought they were the same person. Chris believed that pictures of [[Wikipedia:Megan Fox|Megan Fox]] were of [[Wikipedia:Vanessa Hudgens|Vanessa Hudgens]].<ref>[[Vanessa AIM Chat 9|Vanessa AIM Chat IX]]</ref> In high school, Chris memorized his appearance in the mirror because he had trouble recognizing himself.<ref>[[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]] - [http://thedailypos.org/misc/sonichu/Issue%207/SchuComic8Page24.jpg "...I had to train my brain to visually remember what I looked like..."]</ref> Since he probably hasn't "updated" his self-image, this is a possible explanation regarding why he denies being fat.

Chris cannot "read between the lines" or otherwise interpret subtlety. He interprets ''[[Family Guy]]'' as being against homosexuality.<ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate March 10th, 2009]]</ref> When two male acquaintances exchanged sarcastic homosexual remarks, Chris concluded that they were gay.<ref>Anecdote by [[Mimms]].</ref>

Furthermore, Chris's upbringing was anything but ideal. All of these factors and probably many more have helped give us the man-child we know today.

===The trolls are even worse people than Chris===
Another frequently heard line of reasoning is that the trolls have gone way too far, and have demonstrated that they're even worse than Chris, or at least equally pathetic. For example, [[BlueSpike]]'s sadistic abuse of his control over Chris [[BLUESPIKE#Encyclopedia_Dramatica_Troll_War|outraged even trolls]]. And, of course, who really has no life here: Chris, or the people who [[CWCki|obsessively document and debate everything he does]]?

===For the sake of Bob and Barbara's sanity===
At this point in time it is safe to say that Chris's parents have been just as fatigued as Chris by the actions of trolls. Some argue that his parents should not have to suffer for his wrongdoings, and therefore think that Chris should be left alone just so his parents can enjoy the last few years of their lives in peace.

==Reasons against white knighting==
===Chris lacks empathy himself===
:''See also: [[Chris and death]] and [[Chris and his Ego]].''
Chris cannot put himself in your shoes or accept that you have been where he is. He has no "theory of mind": if you used to be as shy around women as he is today, in his mind the fact that you aren't shy anymore makes your experience inapplicable to his situation. To Chris, the fact you got over it and he hasn't yet makes the two cases entirely different. He doesn't want to solve his problems by trying what worked for you, he only wants you to pity him for having problems, until he [[Dating education|magically dreams up his own solution]].

:'''RocketFox:''' My father died of liver cancer and cirrohosis a day ago ;~; he drank a ton and it hurt him - I'm only 11 and I dunno what to do ;~;
:'''Chris:''' RocketFox, you will soon recover from your father's accident, I guess it is; DO NOT DRINK Alcohol yourself; STAY OFF THAT JUNK.<ref>[[IRC (16 October 2008)]]</ref>

Chris's interpretation of the death of RocketFox's dad as an accident shows that he didn't even bother to look up what cirrhosis is. Immediately afterward, he started talking about a sexy dance.

Chris's reactions to suicide are very telling. After [[Ryan Cash]] died because of Chris, Chris marveled at how much power he had right after he tried to publicly console [[Clyde Cash]].<ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate December 28th, 2008]]</ref> When [[Sarah May]] attempted suicide because of Chris, his reasons for her to stay alive were "I'd feel terrible" and "I'd just cry."<ref>[[Mumble 8|Mumble #8]]</ref><ref>[[CWC Shout Out to Sarah May]]</ref> When Chris broke up with [[Ivy]], he somehow concocted, in his head, an assumption that she had committed suicide. Even after having lost so many dear friends to suicide, he still had no problems telling Clyde and [[Jack Thaddeus]] to [[death threats|kill themselves]]. Many people who have had to dealt with suicidal people or have lost relatives and friends due to suicides might not exactly find this amusing.

In the [[Common_Questions#22_February_2010|22 February 2010]] edition of the [[CWCipedia]]'s "Common Questions", Chris listed the top ten worst things to have ever happened to him. The deaths of "two True and Good Women who [he] had friendships with," [[PandaHalo]] and [[Sarah Jackson]], ranked seventh. Those tragic events ranked below getting banned from a game store, finding out two people from said store were posting info about him on ED, and having his personal websites hacked.

On [[Twin Falling Towers|1 November 2009]], Chris made a video involving Clyde being as "weak as the Twin Towers" and used his mouse cursor as a plane flying into them.<ref>[[Twin Falling Towers]]</ref>

When Rashid Ali Abdul, an Iranian [[trolls|fan]], told him that her country's religious authorities sentenced her to death by beheading for reading ''Sonichu'', Chris said that he was sorry and that the situation was "pitiful".<ref>[[Mailbag 8|Mailbag #8]]</ref>

While some of this can be attributed to Chris's [[autism]], a condition that often results in a lack of empathy, most autistics can at least learn how to express empathy through a combination of carefully reading the emotions of others and thinking about how a situation affects other people. Chris refuses to seek serious counseling or psychiatric help for this sort of thing - but that's another point.

===Autism does not excuse a terrible person===
Chris knows he has trouble understanding non-verbal social cues due to his autism,<ref>[[Quizzes#Autism Quiz]]</ref> and yet he still jumps the gun on interpreting other people's intentions all the time.

Autism, in and of itself, does not create a failure as massive as Chris Chandler. A majority of autistics manage to get psychiatric help for their problem and/or are able to develop social and emotional skills so they can cope with their disability and lead rewarding and rich lives. Yet while Chris acknowledges he has a problem, he refuses to do anything more than see the [[Rocky Shoemaker|pastoral counselor]] at his church, who is not a professional trained in the treatment of autism spectrum disorders.<ref>[[Vivian's AIM chat]]</ref>

Chris is fully capable of understanding the consequences of his actions. He has a sense of morality (even if he often ignores it in favor of his own selfish interests). He would be (and has been) held accountable for his own actions in a court of law (and rightfully so). The fact he is a racist, a homophobe, and a chauvinist have nothing to do with his autism.

===Chris is beyond pity===

[[Image:Chrischantwoface.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's mood is all over the place, even between videos posted shortly after each other. "[[Happy Sonichu Day|Thank you for your support]]"... "[[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|Goddamn womanizing raping trollin' stupid pickle-suited n—!]]"]]

Chris is capable of doing some very bad things when provoked, which is a quite understandable (if not acceptable) response to trolling. However, "provocation" in this case doesn't necessarily mean harassment or trolling. Merely disagreeing with Chris or asking him why he does what he does can provoke an attack, up to and including threats of violence and death. When Chris is annoyed, frustrated, or overcome by desire or lust, he's capable of doing ''nasty'' things. Moreover, when Chris loses it, he doesn't think of the consequences of his actions at all, and his expressions of outrage are completely out of proportion to the provocation — often more outrageous in themselves than whatever the trolls did.

Chris [[Yu-Gi-Oh!|insulted little kids in card games]] and scared some of them away from visiting [[The GAMe PLACe]]. [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]], who frequented The GAMe PLACe and knew Chris in real life years before he was discovered by the Internet, couldn't list any redeemable qualities he possessed.

Chris sexually harassed a [[Megan|woman]] in real life. Megan made it explicitly clear to him that his physical contact and comments to her were unacceptable, but he continued anyway, convinced that eventually she would learn to love being molested by a mentally ill man-child and become his [[Sweethearts|Sweetheart From The Ground Up]].

After Megan yelled at Chris for uploading [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|a picture of him fingerbanging her]] to [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]], he did not apologize,<ref name="Megan Saga">[http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Chris-chan/Megan_Saga Megan Saga]</ref> but rather explained to her (in a terribly [[naïve]] way) how a handjob works, under the misguided assumption that she merely was upset because she didn't recognize the sex act being performed, or in the hope that she would rationalize what he did on this basis. He then had the nerve to say to her, "I am hurting SOOOOO MUCH MORE than you can be."<ref name="Megan Saga"/> Why? Not because of the picture, but because the trolls were being mean to him. Yes, ''him''. Based on [[List of Chris's ED edits|his ED edits]], he was more concerned with people thinking he was fingering his [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|imaginary twin sister]] than he was with defending Megan's honor.

After each of his online relationships ends, Chris starts looking for a new [[sweetheart]] right away, ''even if she died''. No matter the setback, his ego keeps getting bigger.

In mid-July 2009, he [[The July 10th Messages|addressed a person named "SonichuIzCool"]] on YouTube. SonichuIzCool was (''was'') probably the only genuine fan of ''Sonichu'' discovered to date, someone who tried to defend Chris and his comic. She was also genuinely mentally retarded. In his YouTube message, Chris called her "naïve and [[slow in the mind]]." He told her she had to "come out where [he] can meet [her]." Another side of this incident is that his YouTube account had been recently hacked, and he had managed to recover it this time, thus avoiding all of the nasty evil damage the trolls ''might'' have caused. After he posted this video, though, he got his account suspended due to ''his own actions''.

In early November 2009, in his attempt to blackmail Clyde Cash, Chris went so far as to mock the [[Twin Falling Towers|World Trade Center terror attacks]]. When feeling angry at Clyde Cash, he not only thought it would be a good idea to blackmail him, but he used the ''destruction of two skyscrapers full of people after being hit by airliners full of jet fuel and human beings'' as a metaphor for how weak he thought Clyde was. When people got angry, he tried to fix things by turning the WTC towers into cake candles. To the best of anyone's knowledge, Chris was never coaxed or encouraged by an outside source to use the WTC images. He came up with this reprehensible idea all on his own.

[[Image:MikesWedding.jpg|thumb|right|Happily forever after.]]

In January 2010, a fan named Mike Jackson asked Chris for advice, whether he should [[Mailbag 31#If your kids are 16 or 17, you should watch porn with them|watch porn with his family]] and [[Mailbag 35#In which Chris advises a father to buy his son whores|buy a prostitute for his son, Mike Junior, or not]]. Chris, being such an [[Dating Education|expert]], allowed him to do so. In the end Mike Jr. ran away with the prostitute, and Mike asked Chris to make a [[YouTube]] video asking his son to come back home. Unfortunately, Chris is under a lot of [[stress]], and can not make the video. Mike Jr. is married to the prostitute in Las Vegas, and his father died from sleeping pill overdose. Chris didn't even give a damn about the obituary linked by Mike's wife, and responded to his son's grieves and anger with three words [[Chris and remorse|"I am sorry."]]

===Chris cares only for himself===
Chris spends [[monthly tugboat|your tax money]] on luxuries and steals from his parents to buy [[PSN|video games]] he'll never play. He has the basic skills necessary to hold down a job, so long as it didn't require him to do much interacting with other people, and programs exist specifically to find appropriate jobs for the mentally challenged, but Chris hasn't even tried since being fired from [[Wendy's]].

Further reinforcing his selfishness and laziness, Chris and his family strongly agree it's better for him to hole up in his room and get paid for doing absolutely nothing than to seek out the challenge of finding gainful employment in the real world. This is based on the (quite possibly untrue) assertion that Chris can earn more on disability than from a job. By taking advantage of the government through vastly exaggerated claims of an easily manageable illness which they refuse to help Chris treat, Chris's parents are assured a steady income in the form of his room-and-board payments, and don't have to worry about Chris getting in trouble with the law [[Chris and the Law|again]] when he has another breakdown in public.

===Chris is not a good net citizen===
{{quote|I will have NO DISCUSSIONS GOING ON BEHIND MY BACK ON MY OWN WEBSITE WHATSOEVER!|Chris, on reader participation via [[Twitter]].}}
Chris is more concerned with spreading his own version of [[Honest Content|honest truth]] than being a good net citizen. He has adopted the mentality that most spammers have adopted: who cares about things like terms of service and account suspensions and masses of pissed-off people as long as his message gets through? He won't participate in the communities of the sites he posts on. This is not mere ''passivity'' in those communities, which might still be tolerable; he ''deliberately opposes'' such participation. Most people, while not bothering to contribute to communities, would not at least make deliberate efforts to hinder the community. On [[deviantART]], [[YouTube]] and [[Flipnote Hatena]], he disables all comments, probably because he knew he'd not get any praise anyway — yet this ignores the fact that open commenting is part of the nature of these sites and disabling comments should be done only if it's being clearly used for flagrant abuses of the system, like spam and votebotting. He regards YouTube purely as a video publishing venue and not as a tool for engaging in discussion with his "fans". He created his [[Wikipedia]] user page purely to spread his own message, and did not come to Wikipedia to participate in building an encyclopedia. If the site owners block him, he just comes up with another account or a sockpuppet. The thought of apologizing, getting old accounts reinstated, or the possibility that people who block him might be trying to send him a message never cross his mind.

Chris's behavior on [[CWCipedia]] provides many more examples of his selfish attitude, such as the banner ad crisis in late 2009. He doesn't understand what it ''really'' means that the website is neither hosted nor paid for by him personally, and what sort of things the administration typically does on a website like his. He can't or won't understand simple principles like "webhost's house, webhost's rules," or "beggars can't be choosers," but instead believes that since the site has his name on it, it should be run according to his every demand.

===Chris will reject your advice===
[[Image:0231-MrsSanfordsWiseWords.jpg|thumb|right|What are you going to tell Chris that his [[Virginia Jeanine Sanford|favorite teacher]] didn't tell him 15 years ago?]]
Someone [[White knight emails|carefully explained to Chris why he is a sexist]]. In response, Chris got angry. He is only interested in a guide on how to attract women without first making any changes to himself. Most ridiculous: he denies being overweight.

Read [[Vivitheg's AIM chat|Vivian's AIM chat]]. Vivian actually used to be a counter-troll, and warned Chris several times that [[PandaHalo]] was a troll. Chris fell for PandaHalo anyway. She then tried to talk some damn sense on him over AIM. But Chris proved to be so goddamn stubborn, she actually tossed the towel and became a troll out of spite. In Vivitheg's words: "i've tried for 3 hours now; it's like fighting a wall, i can't beat the wall no matter how hard i try." Not only has she long since joined the troll ranks, but Chris even began [[Sign Destruction Video|berating and sending threats]] to his biggest white knight ever.

===Chris will reject your disclosure of the truth===
* [[Hanna]] was a real life troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Lori Lopez]] was a real life troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Blanca]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[PandaHalo]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it, despite [[Vivitheg]]'s warnings.<ref>[[Vivian Gee E-mails]]</ref>
* [[Robert Simmons V]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Sarah May]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Sarah Jackson]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Julie]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Ivy]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it, despite warnings from the counter-troll that must not be named.
* [[Vanessa Hudgens]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Emily]] was a real life troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Kacey]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it. She also married [[CChanSonichuCWC|the TRUE and HONEST Christian Weston Chandler]].
* [[Father Call|Matthew, Kacey's father]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Jackie]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.

See a pattern here? Do you really think he will believe any evidence you send him proving that every fan he has, and pretty much every person he has been in contact with over the past year, is a troll?

===Chris's normal life is often weirder than the trolling===
Chris won't take your advice, so he will fall for trolling. Trolls do weird things and Chris believes almost everything. But even if Chris had no white knights or trolls, his life would still be weird.

Chris's own accomplishments, without any external suggestion or assistance, are sometimes even more jaw-dropping than what the trolls think up. His [[Chris and the Law#Law troubles|previous brushes]] with [[Jerkops|authority figures]] and his [[Attraction Sign|bizarre]] [[Fridays After Five|behavior]] during his outside leisure time are good examples.

===Chris asks for it, and always recovers===
Hellbent on spreading his version of the truth because he's TRUE and HONEST, Chris cannot realize that his edit warring on Encyclopedia Dramatica was practically a squeal begging for more trolling.

[[wiktionary:TMI|TMI]] is a tactic Chris uses that usually leads to him abusing himself. Since Chris insists on revealing the most minute details of his life to everyone he meets, the trolls always get more information to fuel further acts of trolling. White knights cannot stop our hero from being Honest.

Chris doesn't get embarrassed either. Oh, his nudes and lewd acts are all over the internet? No big deal! [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009|All adults do that kind of thing, so what's the problem?]]

Chris managed to fully recover from the depressing [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 21st, 2008|21 October 2008 video]] mentioned above (and quite quickly, too) and proceeded to fail even harder for months. Likewise, despite professing great emotional distress, he bounced back from [[CWC is Sad|the loss of Kacey]] in [[Red Letter CWC Certified Day|a matter of hours]]. So what's the problem?

===Chris made himself an outcast===
High school and college are the places and moments where people are given their first and often only chance to become a functioning part of society. They gave Chris an even greater chance because he's [[autistic]]. They lent him a friendly, caring hand and opened themselves to his friendship, males and females alike. And what did Chris do? He ''refused, by choice,'' to associate with anyone who wasn't female, young, rich, white, and within the Charlottesville area.

When [[Mary Lee Walsh|the dean]] gave him a chance to reform his behavior, he kept going with his bullshit, and was rightly kicked out of [[Piedmont Virginia Community College]] for a full year. What did he learn from that? He learned that Mary Lee Walsh was an evil hag with a personal vendetta against him. He was given ''several'' chances to learn that his [[Attraction sign|loitering and soliciting]] were not appropriate behavior in a public place, and what did he learn? He learned that mall cops are [[Jerkops]], that [[Virginia is for Virgins]], and that his [[Love Quest]] was a matter of him against the world, with the world in the role of the villain. After he was kicked out of The GAMe PLACe (where he was again given more leeway than most people ever would have gotten, out of a sense of misguided pity), he was barred from the last place in Ruckersville that was still open to him, and left with only one place: his home.

Now, it's too late for Chris. He was given a friendly hand, but he angrily bit it, and that hand will never reach out to him again. He doesn't even belong in his own home anymore. He spends most of his time in exile in his fantasy land of [[CWCville]], the one and only place still open to him, and that place ''doesn't even exist''.

===[[Stress]]===
In order to get close to Chris, white knights have to spend at least as much time and effort as trolls to get up-to-date and to thwart the troll output. They'd probably have to lie and pretend to be a girl or video game designer to even capture his attention. This combined with Chris's usual responses is enough to make any sane non-professional psychologist [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 21st, 2008|crash into slumber]].

===Chris will not even read your message===
The spam filter is a powerful innovation of good ol' America Online. Any e-mails sent to his private address will be deleted, probably unread, and any e-mails sent to the [[Mailbag]], if they even get published, will be [[Mailbag 29|given one-word replies and ignored]].

===The trolling will not cease===
Even if white knights get to Chris somehow, there is no endgame in which Chris will be free from trolls before his death.

In school, Chris was trolled by his classmates. He was even trolled by one of his [[Joshua Martinez|real life friends]]. In college, he was trolled by friends who grew sick of his bullshit (e.g. [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]]), and by [[Anna McLerran|girls]] [[Hannah|annoyed]] by his "attraction methods" and rampant, unabashed sexism. If Chris quit the Internet tomorrow, he would still be trolled by a society that refuses to tolerate ignorant man-children flouting its rules.

If everyone trying to create his next fake sweetheart suddenly got bored and quit, Chris would unwittingly seek out new trolls to take their place, and we know newfags are more than willing.

If Chris isn't assigned a custodian after his parents die, his story will probably end when he falls victim to some con artist who swindles him out of his [[monthly tugboat]] and perhaps his home. If Chris does get assigned a custodian, he will continue his antics until the custodian kicks him out or bans him from the Internet. If the custodian bans Chris from the Internet, that's Chris trolling himself.

If Chris gets institutionalized, he will attract real life trolls at the mental hospital. If Chris does not go into an institution and instead ends up in prison due to circumstances that cannot be foreseen, he will be trolled there as well.

If the entire world reforms and decides to leave Chris alone, his own sense of victimization will override any benefit. Consider that Chris felt persecuted simply by observing [[Jerks|males who had more success than himself]]. He regards legitimate assertions of authority as rank brutality. [[Adam Stackhouse]] managed to upset Chris to a degree that CWC observers rate among the most impressive to date, and he did it without even knowing that Chris existed at the time. Bleak as it is, unless Chris embarks on a program of radical self-improvement and/or learns some humility, and manages against the odds to shake off both his legions of abusers and seamy reputation, he will forever feel like a [[Kick the Autistic|thoroughly-kicked autistic]].

===The trolling helps Chris and, indeed, others===
If Chris were just some random nobody on the Internet, he'd be doing nothing but playing video games and occasionally drawing unsellable comics until his parents died. Then he'd be institutionalized. He'd remain without social skills, a virgin all his life, with no job, success or future.

Instead, Chris's antics have become a cultural phenomenon that — without exaggeration — is something extraordinary, unique, and which likely won't be replicated in any shape or form for years to come. Chris has secured his place among such luminaries as the Time Cube Guy and John Titor, and unlike the Time Cube Guy, you can actually comprehend what Chris is saying most of the time. Chris interacting with the world through his websites and YouTube has drawn in a crowd of people who are participating in an unprecedented, continual piece of performance art of a kind that would have been unheard of only a few years ago. He brings entertainment to thousands of people all over the world, an accomplishment that most could never dream of achieving — the kind of thing that would give Dane Cook a stiffy just to consider. His Internet fame is actually a sort of success in its own right, and may bring him further success. There are thousands of people out there that are so fascinated by him that they study his life on a daily basis.

One could argue that if Chris eventually "retired" from this comedy act by actually coming to terms with his problems, seeking professional help, and completely reforming (and selling media rights to his life's story to the highest bidder, like all sensible people would do), he could live the rest of his life secure and probably moderately wealthy. The troll audience would give him a standing ovation for entertaining them for as long as he did, and move on to the next piece of tragicomedy brought to us by the emerging Web technologies. We have seen far more messed-up celebrity stories already; Chris's tale is at least quite different from the norm and engaging.

What's more, the trolls provide him with an actual social outlet to learn and grow in life. Instead of being an unemployable, hideous, fat, virgin bedroom-dweller that nobody has ever heard of, he's an Internet-famous unemployable, hideous, fat, virgin bedroom dweller and this by itself increases his chances of getting friends and a girl. He may even end up employed, too, probably appearing in an advertisement or sponging off royalties from any biographical medium, whether it be a book, movie, or TV series. He could become the next William Hung if he put half an ounce of effort into it.

Also, Chris's constant failure at life has inspired [[Autism#Chris and other autistics|hundreds]] to self-improvement. Really, he's accomplishing a pretty good thing here.

===Chris treats "fans" and white knights like crap===
If you try to white knight him, his response is merely to block you on YouTube, AIM or any other messenger service and never respond. He accuses practically all white knights of being trolls. Quite ironic, isn't it? He screams "I'M STRAIGHT!" when you tell him up front that you're a guy. When you tell him his current "girlfriend" is actually a troll, he'll accuse you of wanting to "break up the relationship for the lulz." He'll be rude, won't listen and won't read between the lines. He will always bite the hand that feeds him, so you should just let him wallow in his own self loathing.

{{quote|Whatever.|Send Chris a 400-word, well-reasoned email — get a [[Mailbag 29#Whatever|1-word reply]] back.}}
{{quote|You can go f*** yourself.|[[Mailbag 43#Go Fuck Yourself, too!|A not-so reasonable reply]] to reasonable criticism.}}

Chris doesn't treat his (perceived) fans much better. Even aside from the SonichuIzCool incident mentioned above, Chris has severe problems answering questions from his fans (or trolls who pretend to be positive fans), and will often react in a hostile manner to everything he sees as negative or offensive. His [[Mailbag]] is the most obvious example. He hates being corrected, and tenaciously clings to his misinformed beliefs; his insistence that Asperger's Syndrome and autism are unrelated is a good example of this. When or if he's having a good day and manages to answer questions from fans at all, he often gives them very brief, one or two word answers that do not elaborate on anything, or outright ignore parts of the question. Not only is he terse, but he's slow to act as well; for example, it [[Brutal Legend Plus|took him three days to realize]] that a [[Brutal Legend|video he uploaded]] was seriously broken. He also promised that [[Sonichu Fan Promo|a spectacular fan creation]] would be officially featured in the ''Sonichu'' comic — and it ultimately was, ''over a year later''.

Most webcomics have a specific schedule that they have decided to follow. Many webcomics fail to live up to them – some less, some more; some for good reasons, some have no excuse whatsoever. Chris didn't have a set schedule for the comic for the longest time, but then agreed to update the comic on a daily basis, a schedule which even the most well-funded webcomic artists would consider particularly demanding. In February and March 2010, there have been few updates to the comic. When the inevitable complaints about schedule slip started to come, Chris snapped at his fans by saying that inspiration takes its time, forgetting that it was ''he'' who decided daily updates were the way to go. As the "Great Director Chandler", he could have the power to decide what schedule to follow, but instead, he chose to attack his fans.

==Examples==
:''Read: [[White knight emails]]''

[[Svenka]] is a counter-troll.

On 6 [[May 2009]], [[YouTube]] user xThexPinchx/NorthxStar7/[http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePinchisDaBomb ThePinchisDaBomb] tried to blackmail major trolls, claiming to have information on them. He was easily called on his bluff by someone who had not trolled Chris at all.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/user/softerthanhardware YouTube]</ref> The Pinch has also threatened [[BlueSpike]] saying he has information from his friends but the thing is '''BLUESPIKE HAS NO FRIENDS'''.

====TV Tropes====
[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Sonichu The TV Tropes article on ''Sonichu''] used to have a white knight message as the first text of the article, with a link back to this very page. The message is reproduced below:

{{quote|Hey Chris! If you're reading this: you seriously need to get help from licensed professionals, before the stuff you do gets you thrown in prison or forcibly committed. And we're sorry, but you have no real fans - the people you think are your fans are really either trolls or laughing at you behind your back. Every. Last. One. Please listen to us - for once.|- Concerned tropers}}

Unfortunately, TV Tropes doesn't have as much experience with Chris as we do and fails to realize that [[Chris and his ego|their message, while well intentioned, will do absolutely nothing]] and Chris will simply ignore it even if he does [[Mailbag 52|fully read and input it for better development. Thank you for your time.]]

For reasons unknown, the message was removed.

==Conclusion==
As good as your intentions may be, there is no conceivable way any mortal man alive can reach Chris and change him for the better. Your efforts will unfortunately fail, and he will just brush you aside, seeing no difference between you and the trolls. Nothing short of divine intervention, revelation, or a horrifyingly close brush with death will change him. You would be best to leave him be and find something else to do with your time. All we can do is hope that one of the three aforementioned scenarios happen at some point, [[Chris and Religion|though the first two seem highly unlikely]].

==Sauces==
<references />

==External links==
* [http://encyclopediadramatica.com/White_knight White Knighting] article at [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]].

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Talk:Tomgirl Pictures

2011-05-03T21:37:02Z

SilentThunder: /* Sandals */

In case anyone's wondering, the images are called "TG#" because TomGirl. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
* '''MY EYES!''' CAN NOT UNSEE! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)CFA

Is there ANY backstory to this?!? What I don't understand is that he 1) went into PUBLIC wearing this stuff (there's a picture of him at his mall) and 2) It looks like he shaved his underarms in one or two pictures...WHY?! Dear God why?! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 19:26, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
* Pretty sure he always shaved his underarms. I don't know why I know that. --[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 19:38, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:I guess you don't understand hygiene, 4Macie. That's besides esthetics. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 06:02, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*Yes but A. This is Chris, hygiene is a foreign word to him and B. Its aesthetics. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:35, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
:The article could use some clarification as to what the hell is going on here. There's gotta be some sort of story behind this. What's the deal? This is some of Chris's weirdest antics yet. Just when you think the lulcow ran dry... [[User:Abyssal|Abyssal]] 19:42, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

Note that both ears are pierced, not just the gay ear (see: cucumbers on eyes pic). Also, that's his real hair and the images aren't censored; he's wearing a g-string. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: Are they really pierced or are they those clip on/magnet ones?? Is there anyway we can tell?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:04, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:: They're real. Trust me. If they were clip ons, there would be more of an indent. I'm also pretty sure that clip ons are bigger. The ones I had as a kid certainly were, and I was pretty into those things. [[User:PedoforkBait|PedoforkBait]] 20:08, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::: That would make sense...I bet the ring/hoop ones are fake though, there's no hole for them in other pictures (unless he got them later). And why are they so oddly placed?? They aren't on the lobe like they should be...unless they've changed where they put them now (I got mine when I was 7). Or...could he have done them himself??? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:::: They are real. Also, I'm not aware of any way to have a stud clip-on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 20:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
*At this point, he's gotta be fucking with us. He wants to gross us out, so we don't bother him. --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 20:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: You think he pierced his ears to get us to leave him alone? [[User:PeachyKeen|PeachyKeen]] 20:20, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

He's using a real camara to take his picture in some of these, that's unusual. I wonder what the poor guy who had to develop them was thinking. O_o [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 20:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

This is probably a long shot, however I really think he did this for a girl. Most likely a girl who liked to dress up as a guy and wanted Chris to do the same. Or it's a really, really good troll. Either way, whoever made him do this is really good at what they do, because these pictures are FUCKING DISGUSTING. [[User:Mikau|Mikau]] 20:54, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: [[:File:TG3.jpg|"...when the government fears the people, there is liberty"]]. I'm sure this new heartsweet has her Guy Fawkes mask ready. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 02:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
* Let me tell you something, and like I said, this really isn't really the place to say it. But nonetheless, whenever I try to rationalize what Chris does, I usually get disappointed because the simple fact of the matter is - Chris is just fucked up.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

The saddest thing about all this is that this didn't even suprise me in the slightest, I wasn't even mildly shocked to see Chris in drag, or even with a sock on his flacid manhood. --[[User:Gustofwind|Gustofwind]] 21:31, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: many are saying it isn't a sock...it's a g-string. You can't see the strings holding it up because of his gut roll over but when he does the picture of his butt, you can see the black thong part in the crack.....if you REALLY want to look that is. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:35, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

Goddaemnd monkey-assed hell. Well, what do we do with this page? Start describing shit? In fuckin' ''detail''?! It could stand as is, like the CWCki's own personal 'shock page'...--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:00, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

INFO, somebody has it. Where are the pictures from? Did he upload them somewhere? Or is it old stuff made public by trolls? --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:05, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:It's all recent and Clyde got it by hacking Chris' PSN. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 22:09, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::Excellent, this, coupled with the PSN being down, is probably the best chance we'll get at him returning. --[[User:Cuprite|Cuprite]] 22:13, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
::PSN has been offline for a week all because of these photos, spread the word [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 22:15, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:::In the meantime, someone try to find an appropreate picture of King Hippo from the Captain N cartoon; he also crossdresses, and he's also a fat, useless, discolored retard.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:17, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

In some of these, he looks uncannily like a fat version of Buffalo Bill. [[User:Vulture-chan|Vulture-chan]] 22:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

I was about to ask if the PSN take down made him go further down the crazy hole o_o [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:30, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
:Chris has been at this a while, and you can tell because growing out hair takes a while. The PSN going down was coincidence. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 00:49, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
I also love the claims that he is "straight". Yeah, Chris is as "straight" as a circle >_> [[User:Raku|Raku]] 23:34, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
: Circle? Try "ampersand." --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:25, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

here's something everybody should think about: chris is wearing his mom's clothes. i mean surely he didn't pay for any of this shit when there are MOUNTAINS of free clothes blocking up whole rooms of his house. [[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 00:36, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
:Already wore his mum's underwear that one time. Wouldn't be a new thing for him. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 01:19, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

I wonder if Bob has caught this yet. [[User:Westbound|Westbound]] 05:08, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

*Guys, please, remember - this page is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. Srsly, I told you fuckers that that ModNation Racer character wasn't Crystal.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:22, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

Anyone with some solid info about this? Do this is a new saga? Who asked him to dress that way? Do we got any metadata linked to the picture so we can have time/date info? This is the best update for months and we got so little info on it. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 06:00, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*I can talk to Tito about getting the raw images so we can get some metadata behind these.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:24, 30 April 2011 (PDT)
*Could he be trying to be Crystal the Imaginary Twin sister? He tends to stick to the stripey clothing and jeans, which is pretty much what she wore [[User:PoppyPink|PoppyPink]] 00:24, 30 April 2011 (GMT)

*This is pure speculation, but do you think it's Mic, the one girl he talked about in the Autism Tutorial?--[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 07:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

The updates are few an far between, but when they come, they are fascinating. I especially like how the Sailor Moon poster is in some of the the pics. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 17:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

This is going to kill Bob. Chris has evolved into a Snorlax. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 04:01, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

Well, there goes the theory of "Chris actually got his shit together and has begun leading a semi-normal life". [[User: GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:02, 1 May 2011 (EST)

== Disturbing revelation ==

*[http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg This pic] raises several disturbing things. First off, If you look in the background, you see the journey's sign. Why does this matter you ask?
[http://www.simon.com/mall/MallDirectoryPrint.aspx?id=117 Fashion Square Mall Directory]
Journey's in the section labeled G on the map. Right near exact center of the mall, meaning he walked around like that near small children. It also explains where he might have picked up everything, for the women's Belk is right around the corner. The disturbing part is he walked around the mall a hop skip and a jump from where I work! And before you ask, no I didn't see him drag. Side note, he is wearing his ring again, see [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg this pic]. Also, there is a piercing pagoda in the mall. In summation, he got pierced, did up and bought his tranny clothes all in the mall most likely. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
: Is [http://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg this sign] somewhere in the mall? Is this part of some sort of cross-dressing awareness event, and is Chris just taking part? [[User:Turnabout|Turnabout]] 22:32, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
**It looks like the chalkboard Chris drew on in [[Chris's Big Night Out II]], which is in Charlottesville. That doesn't look like Chris's handwriting, so I think it's safe to assume he has a new, masculine gal-pal. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 10:25, 30 April 2011 (PDT)
*That chalkboard is the free speech wall on the downtown mall. You know where he did the sonichu dash vid? Same location. It's at the end down near the post office and right near a merry go round. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:20, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA

== Info? ==

Is there ANY background to this? Like: where did he get the term "TomGirl" and why does he think it means to dress up like a girl? (aka: this is cross-dressing...not being a "TomGirl") I guess it was said that this was hacked off his PS3 (PSN)..but WHY was it there in the first place?? He obviously took them for someone...he wouldn't have taken pictures of himself in drag if it was solely for his own viewing...would he??? I guess..
TL;DR: Is there any information about this??? Someone has to know something! --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:45, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
* Well [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomgirl Wikipedia] Explains a tomgirl is a reverse tomboy, a guy who acts girly, a femboi in essence is a tomgirl. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 21:06, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
::Hmmm...well that's a start. Though I think Chris took this one a little too far for it to still be "TomGirl"ish... Now we just need the WHY I guess. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:11, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
:::For the love of fuck just shut up and wait for the inevitable infodump that will explain everything.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:28, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
::::*True, though pretty much what's going on has already been explained by [[Tito]] [http://789chan.org/cwc/res/53442.html here]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:19, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

*Sweet merciful Jesus, he..he finally snapped, or he finally accepted it, just...wow. [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 21:32, 30 April 2011 (PDT)

== Preexisting gender determination issues ==

There is so fucking much up with this guy I don't even know where to start, but cross-dressing is the tip of the fucking iceberg here. CWC genuinely has no masculine features except his receding hairline, and his fat distribution and build are very effeminate. (Not feminine - he looks androgynous leaning away from male.) The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.

The thing here is to compare Chris to relatively masculine fatasses. Moobs that size on masculine men are usually accompanied by a pretty big stomach, and while CWC's breasts are obviously almost 100% the result of fat distribution, a massive amount of his excess fat is in typically female areas, i.e. hips, thighs, ass, etc.

The other side of the coin is that CWC has a lot of the features of abandoned or half-hearted male feminization - box tits with flat, weird nipples; an extremely protruberant but generally formless ass; the general fat and body pattern of a long post-menopause woman. In short, these people look like the Snorlax (as CWC has begun to) because, like her, the last major influence on their secondary sexual features is still high estrogen levels that are no longer significant enough to have a major effect.
Other relevant features of male-to-female transition, either medically or anecdotally ubiquitous, are the softening of body hair, the mild regrowth of scalp hair, emotional upheaval, sexual dysfunction, and massive mood swings. The last three of those are also attributable to testosterone therapy in patients with previously low testosterone levels.

I'm not saying I'm sure there's some kind of congenital or external source of hormone problems for sure, but it seems pretty likely to me that either he was on testosterone for a brief period in response to an indifferent puberty from some sexual condition (possibly explaining his sudden and totally incomplete sexual awakening at 16) or he was, at some point between then and now, medicated with anti-androgens or even some kind of low-level female hormone regimen, either clinically or domestically. (There are reasons that were then and are partially now considered medically reasonable for doing that - chemical castration, for one, for instance when a poorly-managed autistic teenager develops a raging and violently-ideated libido - but God only knows why things happen under that fucking roof.)

TL,DR: Chris might have girl parts and either his parents fucked with his endocrine system at a young age or things with his new boyfriend-free heartsweet are going to get weirder before they make perfect sense.
I've been suspicious of this since his first nudes went up, and this is just icing on the cake. And if you guys think he's a lulcow while he's trying to be a man...

:nah he's just a dumb fatty -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 02:41, 1 May 2011 (PDT)
::I have to agree with Acousticvirgin on this. While your theory is quite interesting...most of this can be explain just by looking at Chris and his family. Chris's family had him at a really old age. His mom was almost in menopause and his father was already a senior citizen. The father at such an old age could be a factor in Autism (it's a scientific theory) and his mother having him so close to menopause could be the reason for any hormonal imbalance (it's a scientific fact that when women are older when a child is born that hormonal imbalances can occur, ESPECIALLY if that older woman doesn't take the prenatal vitamins...). The fat distribution of Chris can be explain by either the hormonal imbalance or by the fact that he doesn't really move all the much, much less work out (or both combined). If you look at pictures of him in his HighSchool years he's a LOT thinner...most likely due to a high metabolism since he didn't work out and wasn't in sports. With his age he's either lost that metabolism or he's out-eating it, either is a possibility. The fact that he doesn't work out at all and doesn't really move around all that much means that there's going to be limited muscles there and much more fat. His arms are skinny because men usually don't get a whole bunch of fat there; his legs are kinda chunky, but men get that too. His butt, gut, and thighs are fat simply because that's where the fat goes. Now, the manboobs. Some men get moobs whether or not they have some gender issue...Chris on the other hand has a set that is way too big to be normal. This could be because of the hormonal imbalance from birth, OR because he doesn't work that muscle out at all. Most men do some form of exercise for that muscle whether or not they go to the gym. They lift things, they carry things, or just daily movement will work out the pectorals for men. The fact that this particular muscle gets NO exercise or movement from Chris could mean that the pectorals are much more fat than muscle. His sexual inexperience until 16 can be explained by parenting and by his autism. His parents never had any reason to discuss his puberty with him so he never really understood sex or masturbation until he saw it in a movie, and now that he does, he still only does it 1 or 2 times a week...quite abnormal for a boy/man from puberty to about 40 years old (age after puberty varies of course). Some autistics are asexual and never have sex throughout their lives because they don't understand sex nor do they really understand/want any kind of romantic relationship. The fact that Chris wants one so badly means nothing; he's shown that he doesn't really understand relationships and treats them like a 8 year old would. ===> TL,DR: Chris's parents had him at too old an age, that along with the fact that he's overweight and doesn't work out at all has made him who he is today... and more likely than not...it'll only get worse. (These pictures show an increased weight since the last time we've seen him; especially in the face and chest.) And Chris wants sex just because he doesn't want the title VIRGIN, he really has no sex drive.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:17, 1 May 2011 (PDT)
:::Now, we have to remember that Chris is very simple. When he had to choose between his console and his galpal, and he chose the galpal, he demanded to have the consol as well, because he did the right thing. Just like in the movies. Chris doesn't necessarily understand love or attraction, he merely knows that relationship is a good thing, and it should be desired. In his simple mind, a relationship with a woman means perfect, neverending happiness that will fix all his problems. [[User:Vergilius|Vergilius]] 13:08, 1 May 2011 (PDT)

*I'm inclined to agree with Acousticvirgin here as well. I think a more plausible explanation though, is that due to DA [[autism|AUTISM]], Chris doesn't understand gender as a construct very well and so goes crazy with it. Or Chris could just be stupid. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:55, 2 May 2011 (PDT)

:Interesting theory, but I disagree with it. Klinefelter's patients tend to have unnatural looking body proportions (extremely long limbs, wide hips, short torsos), and have normal levels of intelligence (remember, Chris was on the Honor Roll). I don't think his bizarre fat deposits are caused by any meiotic disorder like Klinefelter's, but rather terrible diet fucking with his body, raising his estrogen levels, and causing him to develop gynecomastia. Once that happens, it causes him to have female-like fat deposits. [[User:GrotchManchowder|GrotchManchowder]] 23:01, 1 May 2011 (EST)

*My two cents, for what it's worth. The moobs appear to be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynecomastia Gynecomastia] In short, estrogen made him grow boobs. Estrogen would also explain why his voice is in the annoyingly high pitched range. As for [http://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Klinefelter's_syndrome Klienfelter's Syndrome], the man child does in fact track rather well. Compare to this [http://www.andrologyjournal.org/content/vol29/issue6/images/large/andr-29-6-605-f01.jpeg Pic of man with Klienfilter's syndrome]. Thing is,[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditions_comorbid_to_autism_spectrum_disorders Autism is comorbid], so odds are it isn't just autism. In summation, odds are Chris has da autism and some kind of glandular disorder. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:43, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
----Oh, and here I thought that point had already been shot down half a dozen other times and people’d actually read other bad theories before posting theirs. There's absolutely no sense to this theory, or for that matter anything remotely empiric behind it, but plenty plain to sight that shows it's impossible: Only people who don’t understand how gene expression and hormones work could think it makes sense. I don’t know where to start, there’s so much nonsence in that theory I might as well start picking it out.
> ''fat distribution and build are very effeminate...''
:What? Really, and here I thought comparing photos with a baseline would be easy, even for e-doctors. There’s hardly anything about that fat distribution that’s female. The fat went almost exclusively to his abdomen when he was just [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Cwcbraorig.JPG overweight], that’s the type of adipose distribution you get with testosterone. What’s more, the manboobs are dead common in obese men, you’re not just going to get the visceral [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:WantWoman.jpg FA5] type gut fat, but also tit fat, so by your standards [http://img.wikinut.com/img/4-hz_myuqu_9-u51/jpeg/0/Serious-obesity.jpeg fatguy here’s a dickgirl]. The fact that excess estrogens and mostly androgens(which worsen that acne) wind up being made by all that extra fat isn’t intersex.
''>he looks androgynous leaning away from male.''
:And just how? A prominent [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:100_2296.JPG gablela/brow] isn’t gender neutral, neither is his [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG21.jpg square morphing into a pear face shape], he certainly has no problem in growing facial hair as these last photos show, his jawline isn’t slender even if the fat makes it hard to make out, that nose is kind of big & like the other features testosterone promotes their growth. Oh and his hairline is quite [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg high] around the temples and frontal, another manly trait. His face isn’t androgynous or gender neutral at all.
>''The club-dick might be the result of hypospadias (extra dick hole for a partially to fully separate urethra, as in women) corrected by some inept hillbilly doctor, which is an indicator for a variety of sex-determination issues. Kleinfelter's (XXY sex chromosomes) is coincident with it and a variety of mental conditions, including ASD, although he'd be outside of the normal range of intelligence for the syndrome.''
:It’s all wrong. If it actually were a urogenital intersex condition it’d have almost certainly been handled in a hospital by specialists, given how surgery is screened to more qualified MD, the chance of a inept hick doctor is nil. Never mind the fact that his dick doesn’t look like what you normally get from the infant sex assignment, and that his body certainly doesn’t match the phenotype you’d get with 5ARD Kleifeters or PAIS. The whole bit about his hairline ,[http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/a/ad/Personalprofile.jpg acne] and facial structure being too [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/6/67/0793-CWCIs24-2.jpg androgenized] and all.
Probably the most important thing about it all is that '''Autism is not something that correlates with estrogen'''. [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3040206/ Testosterone has a demonstrated casual role] in altering the expressions of genes to induce it, where as estrogen prevents it. Also Cohen’s research indicates that there is a very strong correlation for biomarkers indicating increased testosterone exposure/sensitivity and autism. So no, the idea of Chris being Estrogen dominant and ASD is nonsence. I could keep going on point by point on everything that’s wrong with this theory, but I think the point’s certainly been made. This theory keeps coming from people who just don't get how it works, so an overkill was in need.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:14, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
----

*The prominent nipples are a dead giveaway to gyncomastia. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:21, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
:Have you ever looked at a fat man? Their nipples are enlarged, it's something that's induced by the adipose building up there, that's pseudogyncomastia. Unless if he's been sneaking his mother's premarin there isn't going to be much in the way of nodules there. It's possible that the adipose leads to more hormones and aromatase makes some of them into estrogen, but that's a common enough thing in the obese. It's an analogue to that why they also have higher DHT levels.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:25, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
:Which leads back to the crux of the question, is his moobs due to him being a fatass or him being a fatass makes him have moobs? Either way, he clearly has hormone issues. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 13:28, 3 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
*cool theory doc but have you considered that he is a fat dummy who is fat and dumb and smells like dumb fat -Dr.[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 20:56, 2 May 2011 (PDT)

== Congratulations ==

Congratulations Chris (Or should I say Christina) You have finally come to terms with your sexuality and gender issues. The road ahead may still be windy but at least now you can be happy its the right track. I've never seen you so happy and content and this all of your doing. no manipulation here.

You might find love now that you have found yourself.

Go forth my Child.
--[[User:Bentduck|Bentduck]] 19:02, 1 May 2011 (PDT)

== Seriously guys ==

Next person who posts something not related to improving this page gets (temporarily) banned. This is [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|not a forum]]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:53, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
* Well, don't know if it should be added to the picture captions but on the pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG3.jpg A] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG4.jpg B] They are taken on the downtown mall. Pictures [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG12.jpg C] and [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG19.jpg D] were taken in the Fashion Square mall, where the piercing pagoda is. And Finally, [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:TG5.jpg Picture C] he is wearing his high school ring it but can't really tell. Unsure if linking to the downtown mall and the fashion square mall would be uneeded piping. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:50, 2 May 2011 (PDT)CFA
* It might be worthwhile to note the bizarre horizontal flipping of some images. [[User:Smokedaddy|Smokedaddy]] 01:01, 3 May 2011 (PDT)

== Contactin' C for article material ==
Mmkay, well, do we still have Chris's email address? Can we still reach him on online chats or whatever? Is there no way someone can get hold of him and gently interrogate him about HOLY CRAP CHRIS WHAT THE FUCK and add some substance and reasoning to the insanity displayed on this page? I'm sure he won't mind the attention. I'd volunteer, but, uh, Chris fucking scares me. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 12:22, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
:<s>If only we'd thought of that sooner. I'll contact all the trolls and let them know.</s> Chris doesn't answer emails or phonecalls. He's virtually impossible to contact unless you already have a foot in the door. If you did contact Chris, he would be largely unresponsive and then ignore you. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:27, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
::Mmmkay, fair enough. How about friends/family/people unfortunate to exist in Chris's general vicinity? The freak went out in public like this; somebody has to know something. [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 10:44, 3 May 2011 (PDT)

== Sandals ==

A rather minor point I'm sure, but as someone who has worked in a shoe store, is it worth pointing out that those sandals are clearly too small for Chris? Possible as a caption under the thumbnail? [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 09:41, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:Chris is a cheap bastard who gets almost all his clothes (in fact, pretty much anything but his video game crap) second-hand; I don't think he's ever been very concerned with picking stuff that actually suits him (though whether this stuff "suits" Chris probably depends on the definition you're working with). As long as it goes on his ever-widening frame without garotting him, he's happy. Of course, maybe you can work a mention of it into the "Chris and Fashion" article... [[User:BlueYonder|BlueYonder]] 10:48, 3 May 2011 (PDT)
:: Yeah i figured, but that looks almost painful how small those are on him [[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 14:37, 3 May 2011 (PDT)

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Talk:Kacey Call 10

2011-05-02T13:57:18Z

SilentThunder:

Needs a narrative summary, see the IRC chats for examples.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:59, 4 March 2011 (PST)

Should Chris referring to himself as "part-woman or something stupid" be linked to the TomGirl page? If not, feel free to remove the link--[[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 00:01, 2 May 2011 (PDT)

Kacey Call 10

2011-05-02T07:09:18Z

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4 [[September 2009]]

*[[Chris]] mowed the back yard today. His mom mowed the front yard.
*Chris says he jogged around the neighborhood.
*Chris "forgot" to buy [[Bob]] a birthday present. [[Vivian Gee]] didn't forget, she sent him a nice gift basket.
*Chris still hates Vivian for making the [[Audiobooks]] and making a mockery and slander out of him. Kacey likes the Audiobooks.
*Chris didn't read Vivian's book "and he did not care to"; he gave it to his pastor who told Chris it's a mockery of him.
*Chris bought some [[sports bra]]s, he likes them and now wears them all the time.
*Chris was confused by bra sizes, so he had to ask a girl to measure him.
*Chris now understands how women feel because he has to wear a bra too.
*Chris talks about chromosomes, and implies that [[Tomgirl_Pictures|he's part-woman]] or something stupid.
*Chris shaved his belly before taking the [[Sports bra#Gallery|sports bra photos]].
*Chris claims he had manboobs since he was 8 years old.
*Chris has no goals or ambitions, but he once wanted to be a cowboy.
*Chris dreamt that he had a daughter with him at his office job; in the dream he called her Crystal. Clearly this was [[God]] showing him the future.
*Chris would like to get married before he turns 30.
*Chris currently has $10 in his savings, but he's "letting it grow". He also just bought a bunch of video games.
*Chris doesn't want to sell any of his [[video games]], he wants to hold on to them for his children to enjoy.
*Chris admits he's really just keeping the games for himself.
*Kacey calls Chris a hoarder. Chris has never heard of that word.
*Chris blames his hoarding on his parents again, it's all their fault, they're a bunch of packrats.
*If Chris moves any of the shit out, his mom will yell at him.
*Apparently, when Chris asked his parents about moving stuff out of the house, they said "NO NO NO NO NO NO NO WE'RE GONNA KICK YOU OUTTA THE HOUSE".

==Transcript==
 '''Chris:''' Hallo
 '''Kacey:''' Hey Chris it’s Kacey
 '''Chris:''' Hay Kas, How are you
 '''Kacey:''' I’m good, how about you
 '''Chris:''' hay [Short Pause] yeah shoot I had a topic on my head but I can’t remember it right now so how was…
 '''Kacey:''' [interrupting] just give yourself a few minutes and think about it. My day was good you know just school and everything. I got to do a dissection [Chris: ok] today so it was fun.
 '''Chris:''' a dissection, what you had biology
 '''Kacey:''' um, I’m taking it out of my physiology. I mean, um yeah I majored in biology [giggles]
 '''Chris:''' oh, yeah that’s right, um, um, um nurse thing [Kacey: yeah] so it’s only natural yeah. Ok, so I mowed the backyard today and my mom mowed the front yaaard
 '''Kacey:''' oh, that’s good, um, was it really hot out their because I know it was hot where I am
 '''Chris:''' yeah it was warm out here. On the porch we had a bunch of trees.
 '''Kacey:''' did you ever think that maybe you should do both yards then and let your mom rest
 '''Chris:''' aah, I’m sorry, what, I did not understand the question
 '''Kacey:''' maybe you should have done both the yards, you know instead of your mom being out there in the heat
 [long pause]
 '''Chris:''' well she wa, she wanted to do it. She was the first one out mowing the lawn.
 '''Kacey:''' oh, so she had to push you to do it
 '''Chris:''' oh no, she did push me to do it but ah, It’s like you know I asked her if she would like my help and she said yeah so I ah
 '''Kacey:''' [interrupting] yeah that’s [unintelligible]
 '''Chris:''' We have a ride on mower and a push mower. She used the ride on I used the push.
 '''Kacey:''' oh ok
 '''Chris:''' I had to- I even had to push the mover underneath the dripping branches of some of our trees
 '''Kacey:''' oh, ok
 '''Chris:''' some of our trees have overhanging branches
 '''Kacey:''' you ever think of trimming those branches off then
 [long pause]
 '''Chris:''' hmm, [pause]
 '''Kacey:''' you know so they don’t fall and mess things up
 '''Chris:''' yeah, we have, uh, uh, we have actually trimmed some of the branches before [pause] uh but they [Kacey: kay] grow back you know
 '''Kacey:''' yeah, you know plants tend to grow, um, so did you do anything else today
 '''Chris:''' yeah, um, after I finished up the yard I took a shower and I went and got a smoothie with my [sound of phone ringing in the background] uh, my phones, my home phones ringing let nobody answer it, ha uh, it’s distracting me though, anyway, yeah, ah my family, if I need to go out together to get something to eat so I have to drive me by [unintelligible]. I got a fruit smoothie while I asked at my mom and dad over at coaches while they had, while they shared a pair of hotdogs and fries over at are, over at coaches grill, they had a hotdog and fries, I had a smoothie.
 '''Kacey:''' oh well that sounds like fun. It was just a normal family outing huh
 '''Chris:''' yeah, and then afterwards, and then after we got back I checked my email and, ah, it went through all, it went through all [unintelligible] and then I walked around the neighborhood, I did a little walking and a little jogging, I got five minutes of jogging in out of the walking, yeah, we had mostly, we have a whole bunch of inclines so it is mostly up and down, in our [long stutter] in my neighborhood here [long pause] and I went around prac- [long stutter] my whole subdivision area
 '''Kacey:''' well I mean I’ve just checked my email too and umm, Kibs said it was your dads birthday so did you guys do anything else besides getting the smoothie
 '''Chris:''' yeah my mom, yeah I was going to get my father, I remembered it was my fathers birthday yesterday and a couple of days before that as well but unfortunately when I was running, I mean I had the money in my bank and, uh, I spaced out and I forgot to buy my father a present but you know it’s all good, my father doesn’t usually, like he doesn’t usually care a lot much, so I can just, cause it is as simple as, you know, go up to Walgreens and get a bag of maple nut goodies for him, he likes those maple nut goodies.
 '''Kacey:''' Ok, ok, well, um, did he get any other presents
 '''Chris:''' uhh, yeah after we got back home from lunch apparently there was a box on our front porch from a, uhh, Cherry Grove Tree company, uhh, it was like a little birthday box and then it was
 '''Kacey:''' [interrupting] I heard of them they do online orders
 '''Chris:''' I’m sorry what?
 '''Kacey:''' I heard of them they do online orders, you know like [Chris: yeah] edible arrangements and one eight hundred flowers so what, what, uh, did he get
 '''Chris:''' yeah there was a little teddy bear, small bag [Kacey: awwww] of cookies as, couple of pieces of fancy chocolate and some hard, and some spheres [pronounced spears by Chris] of hard candy
 '''Kacey:''' oh my gosh, so who was nice enough to send that to him. That sounds amazing
 '''Chris:''' mmm, yeah but says like get this on the message note it says it was from Vivian and friends, you know, I know Vivian as Vivian Gee who was that witch
 Kacey: [interrupting] oh my gosh that was so nice of her
 '''Chris:''' hmm, yeah but
 '''Kacey:''' [interrupting] so I mean
 [long pause]
 '''Chris:''' I mean I [unintelligible] know [unintelligible]
 '''Kacey:''' you did it right 
'''Kacey:''' [talking over Chris] did your dad like it
 '''Chris:''' yeah he- yeah he liked it, mostly shared it with my mom
 '''Kacey:''' oh, that’s so awesome though, oh, that’s so nice
 '''Chris:''' uh, yeah [unintelligible] it is a nice gesture but
 '''Kacey:''' yeah you should totally be happy to have friends like that
 '''Chris:''' uh
 '''Kacey:''' [talking over Chris] I mean you should thank her, I mean look at that she got your dad a present when you didn’t even, I mean that’s just amazing of her
 [long pause]
 '''Chris:''' uhh, yeah well I mean I was- I was thinking- I was planning on making a video thanking her for that but still you know I don’t- still it doesn’t win me over, you know, it does not turn my feelings around with her on that note, you know I still
 '''Kacey:''' well I don’t see why you are trying to make this a bad thing, I mean she did a vary big gesture of good will, I mean it was towards your dad of all things, I mean that’s huge but I mean what did she do that is making you so mad
 '''Chris:''' come on if you look on her youtube account vivi-the-gee which is for my- which is ahh- oh shit, I have subscribed to that and I blocked her from my youtube, mmm, oh maybe I did but
 '''Kacey:''' she must have said something really bad what was it
 '''Chris:''' uhh, but anyway she made these- she made- behind my back she make these audiobook parodies of my comic pages and that I should- and she did not have my permission on that. She was Clyde- She is- she was Clyde Cash's cousin and Clyde Cash was a major troll in my life- was really
 '''Kacey:''' oh, well maybe you should make a video concerning that, I mean you know
 '''Chris:''' I’m talk- may I finish, anyway [Kacey: whatever] anyway she- anyway aside from that- in addition to all of that she just made a whole bunch of mockeries out of me

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2011-05-02T07:01:57Z

SilentThunder:

Needs a narrative summary, see the IRC chats for examples.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:59, 4 March 2011 (PST)

Should Chris referring to himself as "part-woman or something stupid" be linked to the TomGirl page?--[[User:SilentThunder|SilentThunder]] 00:01, 2 May 2011 (PDT)

Talk:Kacey Call 10

2011-05-02T07:01:13Z

SilentThunder: