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Talk:2014 Anonymous Sweetheart

2014-09-22T20:45:19Z

Slimz:

A couple of comments:

*There's still some Facebook material pertaining to this article that has not been transcribed yet to the CWCki. I'm going to take care of that soon.
*I don't particularly like the name I gave this article because it's not really catchy, but I can't think of anything better. If anyone can come up with a catchy name that also gives the reader an idea of what this article is about feel free to propose it.
*I'm wondering if we should an add a sentence a two about her likely motives for being in contact with Chris. A troll or a Wallflower-like situation are the most likely possibilites (in that order), but I'm not sure if the article should say that as it is not directly seen from the evidence we currently have.

Thoughts? - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] ([[User talk:NegaCWC|talk]]) 22:44, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

I was thinking it was the prostitute from earlier that Chris has misinterpreted into meaning something more.
--[[User:Sailormoon|Sailormoon]] ([[User talk:Sailormoon|talk]]) 00:27, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Would 'Mystery Sweetheart' or 'Mystery Woman' sound better? [[User:Boomhauer|Boomhauer]] ([[User talk:Boomhauer|talk]]) 1:10, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
:A bit, but still not catchy enough IMO. I want something with humor in it. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] ([[User talk:NegaCWC|talk]]) 02:37, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

I feel so sorry for this women [[User:Demaster|Demaster]] ([[User talk:Demaster|talk]]) 12:57, 21 September 2014 (ET)
: I can't see any woman wanting any part of Tomgirl Chris. This has to be some big misunderstanding, from Chris's end. '''OR IS IT?''' [[User:Dick Banton|Dick Banton]] ([[User talk:Dick Banton|talk]]) 07:31, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

How about "unconfirmed love quest" [[User:Slimz|┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] ([[User talk:Slimz|talk]]) 20:45, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

User:Slimz

2014-05-06T17:32:44Z

Slimz: Blanked the page

User talk:Slimz

2014-05-06T17:32:35Z

Slimz: Blanked the page

User talk:Champthom

2012-08-09T20:14:41Z

Slimz: /* Permanently Banned from Message Board */

Talk to me.

Be sure to check out the archives as well:

'''Archive:''' [[User:Champthom/Archive 1|1]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 2|2]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 3|3]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 4|4]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 5|5]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 6|6]]

== Champ, I mean it now ==
When I come on here and see that people like [[User talk:Steve Landcleamer|this mouthbreather]] have been fucking with pages while being told not to and spamming pictures of furry porn that we for some reason allow on here, and yet I have the power to neither delete the image or ban the sperg, it cuts me deep. I'm on here often enough and I've already contributed a lot to the wiki. Can you throw some Jerkop powers my way so I can sort this shit out in future? We don't have nearly enough active mods and this place seems to have this kind of shit all the time. I mean this seriously Champ, I think the CWCki could benefit a lot from more Jerkops. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:09, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
:Before you answer him, Champ, keep in mind that I've also been here a long time and am also actively contributing; so if you decided to give Old meme jerkop rights, I sure would appreciate receiving them as well. Just saying. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 09:24, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

*You both make good points. Could you point out the furry image though, the only image I've seen by him is that picture of Chris ejaculating on Anna's face, which I've incidentally deleted because I don't think it really improves the Anna article. Anyways, about quality in general - I've discussed this issue with Anonymax, and this goes for the both of you, that as regular users you have all the tools needed to improve the quality of the CWCki. If there's an incidence such as an edit war going on, you're welcome to ask any of the admins to step in to resolve the issue. For these reasons, I don't think it's needed to add more jerkops or admins for these reasons. However, if it ever got out of control, then I would consider making someone a quality control jerkop to enforce quality standards. However, I think for the most part you all have the tools you need, just keep making good edits and reverting shit like you have been doing and I think that should be sufficient.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:11, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
**He's probably talking about [[:Image:Sonichu.jpg|this picture]], which was spammed on [[CWCki:Privacy policy]]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 23:46, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

== Deletion of Fail; Effects ==

Would it be necessary to organize a project of some kind to remove red "fail" pipes from pages across the CWCki? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 11:27, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
*[http://www.sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Fail&limit=500 Here they all are]. Clean them at your leisure. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 11:57, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
:[[User:Anonybot|Anonybot]] is working on it. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 14:41, 23 April 2012 (PDT)

Fail article deleted, stupid page names corrected, Champ finally got around to deleting the furry porn. It's been a good week. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:39, 24 April 2012 (PDT)
*At least SOMEONE is happy.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:18, 25 April 2012 (PDT)

==Why did you delete the article on Kim?==
She is as notable as any of the gal pals, and all the info IS public, coming from the Kacey calls.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:03, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know the Kim from the Kacey calls is the same Kim Wilson? Kim is a fairly common name. You're also assuming a lot of things, like Kim is ScarletSanctum when you have no proof of that, and you're including a lot of things that are rumors like how some apology video was because Kim was upset. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:04, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

*1. Chris states her name is Kim Wilson in one of the Kacey calls.
*2. ScarletSanctum is Kim's youtube handle, as stated in [[SingStar Challenge]].
*3. Chris addresses in that video that he upset Kim and Kacey with the previous video.

And if the name was an issue why not just redirect the page to "Kim"?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:17, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know that ScarletSanctum is Kim? Does Chris explicitly mention it? Also does Chris specifically say Kim in that video in that it upset her? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:23, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

Chris does explicitly mention it. Look at this dialouge in [[Kacey Call 1]]:
*Chris: Yeah. So you know uh, Kim, you know uh, how she, uh, yeah you know, uh, Kim, I actually heard that Kim and her friend Logan actually live in the Charlton area close to the downtown mall, you know? So if you ever wanted to look her up and, you know, just talk to her, you know, find about more about the impostor for me, or you know, see what her opinion of me is on the Internet from her point of view...
*Kacey: Oh, you want me to do some undercover stuff? Chris, that is so sweet of you! You know how much I wanted to get involved.
*Chris: Oh yeah, sure. You know that ScarletSanctum account? That's hers.
*Kacey: Okay, no, I will totally, totally message her. It's Kim Woods, you said?
*Chris: No, Kim Wilson. Totally. Message her, talk to her all about me.

As far as making the video in response to offending Kim, he also implicitly states this:

"Uh, I dedicate this video to uh, Logan. Boyfriend of my gal-pal, Kim. Yeah, anyway uh, I've--I just wanted to uh, apologize for uh...offending you in anyway"

He could also be referring to offending Logan, but either way why through the baby out with the bathwater?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:35, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*Let me think about it. In the meantime, I've made a [[User:Steve Landcleamer/Kim|subpage]] for you in the meantime.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:39, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

So is there any hold up or is the page good to go? I've answered all your questions and it seems to meet all the requirements.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:32, 5 May 2012 (PDT)
*Don't you think it might be a little bit imprudent to make a page about Kim?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:58, 5 May 2012 (PDT)

*Why would it be imprudent? All the information is public and sourced. All the other gal pals have pages, so what would the problem be?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 18:37, 5 May 2012 (PDT)

*Well?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:39, 7 May 2012 (PDT)
*Good God, first learn some patience, this isn't a life and death issue. Second of all, let me put it this way - in your own words, the supposed Kim calls are unreleased. Why do you think that is?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:18, 8 May 2012 (PDT)

Because "she"'s obviously still trying to troll Chris. Regardless, that's beside the point, while the calls haven't been released, all the information in the article has. You initially deleted it under the guise that is was "Not notable, not based on public information", but we both know that that's clearly not the cause. My page seemed to meet all the guidelines, so based on Cwicki guidelines, what is objectionable about it?

I'm sorry if I seem impatient, I just find this quelling of already public information to be pretty ridiculous and counter productive to the CWCki.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 14:43, 8 May 2012 (PDT)
*Based on my discussions with Canine and Anonymax, I have decided to restore the article. Remember, the CWCki is form Chris's POV so Kim isn't a troll, she has not publicly declared herself to be a troll to Chris. I'd also avoid posting on /cwc/ and CWCki Forums when you make an article on a delicate topic like this.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:09, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

===If I may step in and say a piece===
I know I may not be towing the party line by saying this Champ, but Land has a point here. This is all information that was technically on the wiki anyway, just in out of the way places. Personally, I have no problem with covering things up for trolling purposes, because I understand the need to do so and I'm not one to whine about dang dirty stonecutters, but we have information on Kim here already. I don't care which side of the fence you're on Champ, I'll just go with what you say, but you've got to at least be consistent. Either allow the article outright, or if you object to some of the content in the article being made public, censor it and then allow the censored version to be posted. Your decision is final and no-one would be able to stop you, so I don't know what you're worried about. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:22, 9 May 2012 (PDT)
*True, I realize this, but the issue is that there's a good reason that Kim doesn't already have an article, mostly for [[A_Quick_Guide_to_CWCki#Privacy|privacy reasons]] which is indeed already covered. I'm trying to convey that subtly. Remember, Chris reads the CWCki, and loose lips sink ships. I don't think "we" released the Kacey calls, Canine tells me it was all dropped by Liquid's twin brother so it's not like we were able to filter through everything to see if anything was objectionable.

:This is a difficult decision and I need to discuss it with Canine a bit more, unfortunately we have conflicting schedules so I'll try and catch him tonight.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:31, 9 May 2012 (PDT)

==Chris's POV==
*Thank you for restoring the Kim article. I am wondering something concerning what you said about the cwicki supposed to be from Chris's point of view. Why do articles like [[Obesity]] state that Chris is fat? He's said multiple times that he does not think he is. There are lots of other examples like this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 17:07, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

[[Chris and reality]] would be the best example of this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 18:13, 11 May 2012 (PDT)
::We go by what Chris thinks/says unless we have decent evidence to the contrary. With his obesity, we have more than enough evidence to support this. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:04, 12 May 2012 (PDT)

==Permanently Banned from Message Board==
I really don't understand this at all. Please respond to the email I sent you.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:21, 6 May 2012 (PDT)

Never mind one of the other mods took care of this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:39, 7 May 2012 (PDT)

I have a similar problem and would like to be unbanned. [[User:Negi Springfield|Negi Springfield]] 23:23, 9 July 2012 (PDT)
*I'm guessing you got banned for being a sperglord, but what's your username?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:12, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
I was banned due to 789chan having a thread on me during one of their CWC dry spells. I went by Negi Springfield, so not much different from what I'm using right now. [[User:Negi Springfield|Negi Springfield]] 17:01, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

I would also like to be unbanned from the message board. [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 00:29, 7 August 2012 (PDT)
*You've had two threads about you on /cwc/ plus you've sperged about your "comic." No, you're not getting unbanned.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:44, 7 August 2012 (PDT)

There was never a single warning I had received from any board moderator regarding personal attacks or violating message board policy. If my posts were so terrible, it only stands to reason that your moderators would have jumped in. Aren’t they the watchdogs of the message board?

What exactly is your justification for permanently banning people who have been mentioned on 789Chan? [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 07:22, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
*There is a clear rule about over sperging and if there's a /cwc/ thread about you, odds are you've sperged too much. My moderators are often too lax when it comes to this sort of thing, which is why I step in. I don't need to warn you, you should know better, if you have autism that you choose not to treat that is not my fault. And my rationale? If you've got a thread about you on /cwc/, me banning you is the least of your concerns. In fact, I am doing a favor by preventing you from digging yourself deeper in a hole. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:42, 8 August 2012 (PDT)

Champ this is right from the CWCki about “Sperging”
“The CWCki forums highly recommended place to discuss anything about Chris to your heart's content. This board was created in response to the growing demand for a place where people could discuss anything without fear of violating CWCki's strict talk page policies”

As far as sperging about my comic that was in reference to critiquing Chris’ art style

I mentioned there were open source graphics programs such as GIMP that were completely free to download. I brought up the fact that he could spend a little bit of his tugboat on reference works with royalty free manga stock images and copyright would not be an issue.

As for a few of the other topics that I started that probably sperged?
Are we being unfair to Chris in judging him?
Would you hire Chris if he was genuinely seeking employment?
Do you think that Chris and Barbara were intimate with each other?
If Chris decided to charge $250 for a for two day visit at his house and a no holds barred interview, would you take him up on it?

The board moderator(s) that I observed that wanted to put in their two cents worth joined right in on the debates: They had no issues with this. You mentioned the board moderators were too lax. I disagree. They were doing their job.

Let me share something with you: When that thread started about me around the beginning of January on 789chan and I was permanently banned: I monitored that thread every day. They went back and looked at my posts. Do you want to know what their reaction was?

They were baffled on why I was being banned. They didn’t bust my chops because of what I posted in the forum. What got the thread off the ground was a personal attack on 789Chan over a Beiber troll on my YouTube channel that came back and bit me in the ass. Was it a moment of stupidity that I regretted? Yup.

Have I been brought up twice on 789Chan? No. I’d say 5 to 10 times is more of a realistic estimate. It wasn’t sperging that brought me up on 789Chan. It was curiosity about my YouTube channel (which has been around for years) and more recently my website. [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 20:31, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
*Why do you want to go back on the forum so bad? It's kinda sad that you're going to all this trouble. Seriously, move on dude, talk about Chris on /cwc/, see how that goes. Hell, go to [[User:Slimz|Slimz's]] forum. Or start your own. Why do you want to go back on the forum so much? The point is that you give us unwanted attention and I have enough trouble maintaining the forum's reputation as it is.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:15, 9 August 2012 (PDT)
'''NOTE''' slimz forum is no longer active, never really was. Slimz would like to be reinstated in the forums as well :) i have bene here editing for a while ban was like a year ago. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 13:14, 9 August 2012 (PDT)

== Comms ==

I'm on IRC a lot and today is my day off work so if you're around so am I! --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 02:19, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

== can I help? ==
Hey I have a capture card that does 720p,1800p,ect and wanted to know if I could use it to help (lbp videos,screen shots) does anything need to be rerecorded? also I'm moving soon so if you could say something in the next week or so (before I have to pack my computer up) that would be great. [[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]] 09:14, 1 June 2012 (PDT)
* Sorry it took a day to get back to you, just had to think as I do appreciate your gumption. To be honest though, I can't think of anything in particular, BUT that's just to the best of my knowledge. Head over to [[CWCki:General|the community portal]] and ask there, there might be some people to have some ideas. Just do me one teensy favor - be sure to sign your posts (that's four ~ in a row) so we know who you are when you post. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:29, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
* thanks! [[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]] 09:14, 1 June 2012 (PDT)

==Bruce Johnson==
The Bruce Johnson thing is real. I don't even care about the PVCC anymore. I just want you to know I'm not making up what I added to the cwicki. Would you like a wider screenshot of the facebook convo?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 19:26, 20 June 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know it's the real Bruce Johnson? Or rather, why should we trust you? I could easily have made a Bruce Johnson account to fool you. Even if it is real, do we really need it? All it boils down to is Johnson saying he's not a pedophile contrary to what Chris said. Is this really a startling revelation, that Chris said something negative about someone and it's not true? Do we really need to confirm this, in light of Chris's history? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:36, 20 June 2012 (PDT)
*'Sup bitches, guess who's back? Champy, thought I'd drop in to tell you that under the "no shit is too minor" policy, (which you should really get rid of if it enrages you so), we do indeed need to confirm everything if possible. That said this is still probably bullshit, and confirming this still isn't your job. If you want my two cents, give Landcleamer a chance to convince you of its authenticity at least. I'm sure you have high standards for what you'd accept as convincing proof, so either someone else will go out of their way to contribute something valid, or he can fail to do so and you can say no again. Worst case scenario, Steve Landcleamer turns out to be the weenest of ween trolls and goes through a lot of work to convince you of something fairly inconsequential that can be removed if it later turns out to be fake anyway. The way I see it, this isn't a real problem for you either way. Let the monkey dance. Also, your insulting summaries were hilarious. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 02:12, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
:*I forgot to add in the summary that our friend Steve here wanted to be let into PVCC on the basis of this "startling" revelation. As I've said before, "no shit is too minor" should mean that we don't overlook things, not that we need to get third party confirmation on everything. Anyone who's familiar with Chris knows that his memory isn't totally accurate and he's been known to bullshit. Given that Chris has called Michael Synder a Jew, does this mean we have to contact Michael Synder and confirm whether or not he is a Jew? Do we need to contact Mary Lee Walsh to make sure she's not in fact secretly a witch planning on banning true love from Virginia? It should be pretty obvious that Johnson probably isn't a pedophile, and what does his admission of not being a pedophile say? He could be lying for all we know, I'm not saying he's a pedophile, he probably isn't, but his admission of not being a pedophile shouldn't be startling. I mean, did you expect him to say "Chris got me, I'm a kiddy piddler, I love little boys and molesting them as they sit on my lap and I do horrible profane things to them." Of course the answer is "no," why do we need to have confirmation of this?
::As I've said before, I don't like people bothering Chris tangentially related to Chris about stuff. I think having known Chris is punishment enough, it doesn't help to have epic ween trolls like Steve here think they're gonna get into PVCC on the basis of harassing these people and asking them for information about Chris. I think it's pretty damn weird and spergy to do this, that is to contact people with tangential relations to Chris and ask them details about Chris. Someone on the CWCki Forums is like "No, it's not weird, it's just like liking any celebrity like the Kardashians." Here's the thing - I don't think celebrity magazines are hunting down the lady who served one of those Kardashian people coffee and doing a full length interview. It's bizarre, I would be weirded out if some person went up to and wanted me to tell them everything I know about some person I vaguely remember from years ago.
::This isn't exactly someone who served Chris coffee, it's a major figure in Christory.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
::Burden of proof is on Steve and he's on shakey ground. I don't trust him one bit. I don't like having things that could very easily be false on the CWCki because it hurts our reputation and people already distrust the CWCki as it is, I don't need to give them more reason to distrust it. I don't want to give people an incentive to make up fake bullshit and post it on the CWCki with the thought they'll be declared an epic ween troll for getting "new" "content" and that they'll get into PVCC and that mommy and daddy will finally love them because they'll no longer be wastes of human flesh.
::You have to REALLY convince me here, Steve. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:18, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Hey, no objections from me. Steve wants to dig up trivial information to try and get into PVCC, that's his business. It's not like it would at all harm the CWCki to put up a single quote from the man if it does turn out to be true. Though really, you need to do something about the abundance of ween trolls trying to get into PVCC, or even just normal idiots desperately begging for it, like 16BitAlex. Maybe the guys in the forum itself or on IRC get a good laugh out of them, but I personally just get depressed when I see people like Stevey-boy cluttering the CWCki recent changes, desperately pursuing some unattainable goal by making bullshit edits and whining as hard as possible on talk pages. It wastes your time, it wastes mine, it's rather sad, and it's not even entertaining enough for the guys on /cwc/ to get more than a single thread from it. All in all, a pathetic affair for all involved. I would suggest temp-banning Pipecleaner if he continues to make a nuisance of himself after this, under your "Drama whoring" clause. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:13, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Champ, you have my email. This might be a dumb idea on my part, but I'm willing to give you the facebook login information so you can see the message for yourself. I'm willing to trust you to not fuck with the account, just to go into the private messages and verify the authenticity. After that can I be allowed back to the cwicki forum, under the understanding that I'll never ask to join the PVCC again?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 07:50, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*I think /cwc/ has made a good point, a point I have, is that - what did you expect him to say? Of course he's going to say he didn't molest Chris, even if he did molest Chris he's not going to admit it to some stranger. So having him say that he didn't do it isn't saying much, because either way he'll deny it and that really doesn't add anything to the discussion. And like I said, given Chris's background, we know he exaggerates things, and that his recollection of events aren't always the most reliable, do we need to actually get confirmation of this?
:::Ignoring the issue you wanted to get into PVCC, I don't see what it really adds to the discussion. I also don't want to encourage people to hassle people connected to Chris to get information.
:::If people feel like it absolutely, positively must remain in the article, I'd say something like "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..." or something like that so people can interpret it however they please. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:38, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Alright, can we keep it in under that wording?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 06:34, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::* How do we even know it was from Bruce anyway? I'm not doubting Steve Landcleamer has a message on his facebook, I'm 100% sure that if anyone where to get onto his facebook they would find said message...I'm doubting that it's Bruce. People have been faking to be people Chris knows for quite a while (like Megan), this wouldn't be a first.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 09:10, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Why would someone make an entire fake facebook account full of pictures and friends, on the random change that years after its creation someone recognizes them as Chris Chan's old principal, just so they can dish out false information? If that was the case surely they wouldn't have just said that Chris is a liar and insane.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 10:43, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::*May I ask a question? Even if you did successfully contact Chris's old principal, why was the only thing you could ask "R u pedo lol?". The big questions about Chris's time at NGE are "Why was he sent to the principal?", "Why exactly did they record his screams, was it because he was a repeat offender?", "Why was he transferred there from Greene County Primary?", and "Were the principal's lap incident and scream recording incident the same incident?". Any of those would be worth adding to the CWCki, and it would have cleared away most of the fog surrounding the event. Instead you asked for information that everyone already knew. It's like you stumbled into a garden containing hundreds of delicious alien fruits and came back with a half-eaten ordinary banana.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 15:00, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
:::Firstly, if you read the screenshot, you'll see I did ask him what really went down with Chris being sent to his office and having his screams recorded. All Johnson says is Chris is liar. Secondly I figured asking private information out of the blue about a former student would get no answer, by connecting it to the fact that Chris is getting sued by Snyder (who he also claimed was a pedophile), the message comes across as a concerned citizen looking out for Mr. Johnson, rather than some creep obsessed with Chris, and thus got a reply.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 13:56, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
::*I would also add that just because the Facebook profile is full of pictures and friends doesn't mean it isn't fake. It could just be a -really- good fake. The kind of fake that leaves no obvious evidence that makes it easy to discern as a fake. As to why someone would have done it, stranger and less tactically sound things have happened, enough that I can conceive of and not be surprised by someone doing it for exactly the reasons you mentioned, regardless of the lack of point in doing so. -[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 15:17, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
:::I will be happy to provide you a link to the facebook page, along with it's postings dating years back, and you still tell me this is can all be chalked up to an elaborate troll scheme.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
:::*You don't need to. I checked the page in its entirety (at least as much as I had access to) before I posted here, and did again before posting this. I think this is more of a difference of opinion than anything: the factors that convince you that it is real (profile in existence since 2008, existence of friends and wall posts, etc), don't automatically convince me. Like 4Macie said, if this is a fake, it is hardly the first time someone has done it. I'll also reiterate my opinion that a -really- good fake will not have any obvious signs that it is a fake. I'm not saying that the profile is fake, just that there isn't any compelling evidence that it isn't. My official position is that it exists, and people more savvy and/or more connected than I can verify the truth of it all if they choose to. Whether it is or it isn't, I'm inclined to agree with Champthom in that Bruce Johnson not being a pedophile is hardly an earth-shattering surprise. At best, it's just (allegedly) confirming something everybody but Chris already believed to be true. -[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 17:51, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Does anyone object to keeping this info under the wording Champ suggested, "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..."? --[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
:::*I don't think we should put it on here at all until Champthom is convinced it's real. Also; epic ween, brah.. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 03:33, 25 June 2012 (PDT)

===My thoughts===
I think the wrong focus here is whether it's indeed real or not. Supposedly this Facebook profile has been around a while, has plenty of photos, etc. What motive is there for someone to go into such detail and for what purposes? It's pretty easy why someone would want to impersonate someone like Megan or someone Chris knew from high school - so Chris will see these people, decide to talk to them, and they'd then be able to troll Chris. What purpose is there for someone faking Bruce Johnson? Why would Chris decide to contact Bruce Johnson? I can only really imagine Chris deciding 1) to look up Johnson and 2) taking the effort to contact him mostly to say something like "You molested me you pedofork!" and mind you, Chris is pretty lazy so he wouldn't go to that much hassle. So we have to possibilities - 1) someone has planned since 2008 to troll Chris and has created a believable Facebook profile, all for the motive of trolling Chris or 2) it's actually Bruce Johnson. Occam's razor would suggest the latter.

I think the real issue here is - how can we be sure it's real or not? There's no way of knowing whether this is real or not. Are we supposed to take Steve's word for it? What's to stop other people from making similar claims? People love making shit up about Chris and using that as a way to get attention for themselves or in Steve's case, to try and get into PVCC. The CWCki was designed purposely to separate truth and fact and that's why I take this sort of thing seriously, namely that I don't like things of dubious origins to be cited as facts on here.

But also, let's consider - why the hell is this so damn important? I mean, it's just Steve saying "Chris says you're a pedophile" and Johnson says "No I'm not." Is that really startling? Will this totally change the way we look at Chris's claim? You know what? Even if he was a pedophile, do you really expect him to admit to a strange he molested children? So his confession says nothing really. I think that a reader of the CWCki should be familiar with Chris's track record with memory in that he tends to remember things in his favor (like that he was a Pokemon gym leader vs. Lucas and Mimms's claim that he only did it one time when all the regular people were out), plus that [[Wikipedia:Repressed_memory|repressed memories]] in general can be dubious and that it's very easy to construct pseudo-memories. Let's be VERY generous and let's say that Chris was indeed molested by Bruce Johnson. Does this really excuse his homophobia? I'd say no. True, it'd be a more valid reason than thinking that you can "turn" gay but I think that really only justifies not liking one particular gay person. Let's say a black person robs me - does this justify me being racist to all black people? No, that'd be silly, just because one particular black person harmed me doesn't mean I should hate blacks as a groups. Same thing applies to Chris and gays.

Side note - Steve, don't break up one of my posts, because it looks like you wrote that whole bit when I in fact did.

In regards to your comment, you're right, this isn't like someone serving coffee - it's much weirder. It's more like if a complete stranger approached you on the street and asked you about the guy who sat two seats in back of you in English class and demanding you tell them every single detail about them. No, Chris isn't a celebrity, he's our bizarre obsession and we need to be honest with ourselves, it's sorta weird. If it wasn't for trolling, Chris would be an ordinary, dull person, albeit with some eccentricities but just an ordinary person who you might look at a few extra seconds if you were to pass him by but not a celebrity by normal standards. If you think it's normal to contact people who vaguely know people from ages ago and ask them for every single detail about said person, they'd probably think you're some sort of stalker or there's something mental with you.

So should we have this tidbit on the article? Like I said, I don't think it really adds anything. If it's generating this much furious debate, I don't think it'd be wise to include it. This isn't about me not being convinced, it's about not convincing the CWCki community as a whole. Like I said, I don't think we're losing out on anything major here.

Those are my thoughts at least. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:20, 25 June 2012 (PDT)

Why not include it? Isn't there an inherent interest to here Johnson's response even though it is what we'd assume it would be? It can only make an article stronger. Take for example a New York Times article about an alleged criminal, it will always make a note that they contacted the accused, even if the person simply replies with a refusal to comment.

Including Johnson's comments in the article helps verify what people suspect about Chris (he made this incident up). Isn't further information/confirmation better than none?

As far as proving the facebook message was not some photoshop, I'm still offering Champ access to the acount so that I can prove I am not doctoring things (and if I was wouldn't you expect the details to be a lot juicier?)--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 17:41, 25 June 2012 (PDT)
::: Seriously, why are you trying so hard for this? I'm pretty sure anyone who reads what Chris thinks about Bruce would naturally assume that Bruce didn't actually touch Chris inappropriately and that Chris's screams were not recorded for Bruce's amusement... --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:15, 25 June 2012 (PDT)
:::I've already explained myself. What is the harm in including it?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 06:46, 26 June 2012 (PDT)

So would you like the account info? I'd like to definitively prove that this is real and move on.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 17:26, 27 June 2012 (PDT)

* I don't think anyone doubts that you received the message, the uncertainty lies in whether the account you received it from is genuine which cannot be proved by someone logging into your FB account. And also whether it's important enough to go on the CWCki anyway. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 02:07, 28 June 2012 (PDT)

The what's wrong with the wording Champ suggested, "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..."? We've already established that there's an incredibly slim chance that it's a fake account, and this would reflect that small margin of error.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 06:41, 28 June 2012 (PDT)

* Ehhhh ... I'm still inclined to basically agree with Champ in the respect that this isn't really all that important and we're not losing out on anything major by not including it. I too also wonder why you're so insistent on this. Is this really so important that it's been worth the eight days of discussion thus far? That it's worth giving your Facebook info to someone to prove the authenticity of a point that is almost unanimously considered too minor to really be worth the effort? Which to me, I might add, seems an awful lot like something -Chris- would do, or would have done in the past. Honestly, the more you insist on having this put in the CWCki, the more skeptical I am and the more I feel that, for you, this is less about documenting things related to Chris and more about trying to boost your cred and adding more contributions to your credit. Or, like Champ already pointed out, trying to get into PVCC. Near as I can figure, the only one who is determined to see this in the CWCki is you. --[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 12:52, 28 June 2012 (PDT)
**This. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:39, 29 June 2012 (PDT)

*Alright fine, you don't want it, I'll stop pushing it. Champ can you let me back on the message board? I didn't violate any rules and it's been two weeks already.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:05, 29 June 2012 (PDT)
:*You broke the rule about being a sperg. If you wanna go talk about Chris, why not try /cwc/? I'm sure they'll love you there.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:45, 29 June 2012 (PDT)
:*That's okay I'm content without being a member of either and just editing the cwicki.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 19:08, 30 June 2012 (PDT)

User talk:Freecell

2012-08-07T14:58:01Z

Slimz: /* been a long time */

{{ArchiveTalk|Freecell|Archive1}}

It's from there's something about mary, the fat retard who searches for his baseball in front of a high school. --[[User:Dankechu|Dankechu]] 03:58, 29 January 2011 (PST)

Fuck you --[[User:Dankechu|Dankechu]] 04:36, 30 January 2011 (PST)

==wtf==

you need to calm the fuck down and find something else to do with your time. CWCki - serious business. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 02:32, 6 February 2011 (PST)

== Hey buddy ==

You seem to really care a lot about banning people. Does this make you feel powerful? Does it give you a rush? Just wonderin'. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 05:54, 8 February 2011 (PST)
: Just wonderin' but do you even LOOK at who he bans? It's usually for the best because it's normally someone who vandalized stuff or was being a totally jackass. Sorry if I'm butting into an issue I'm not suppose to be a part of, but this is just how I see it. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 06:20, 8 February 2011 (PST)
:This is not about who he bans, it's more the spergy satisfaction he seems to get out of it. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 06:23, 8 February 2011 (PST)
:Now, I'm not criticizing your work or anything, I know you do shit that no one else wants to do, but let me put it this way: your overall style comes over as banhappy. It might be that because I've only read certain posts by you my opinion is somehow colored, or something, but I guess having a 300 word text on your userpage about exactly who you're going to ban isn't helping for one. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 09:55, 8 February 2011 (PST)
:To me you're still the Hitler of CwCki admins. Go enjoy your thousand year reich. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 10:40, 10 February 2011 (PST)
:You and Megan should get together, so that you can spend more time on hanky panky and less time on BANNING PEOPLE! [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 15:04, 10 February 2011 (PST)

== Dudleystephen ==

This guy just joined and is advertising a workout product on his userpage. Just giving you a heads-up.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 21:21, 16 February 2011 (PST)
:Well, that's somewhat embarrassing. I guess I need to learn not to do this when I just wake up. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 03:27, 17 February 2011 (PST)

== Captions ==

Nice work on the captions, Abuelita finally got around to adding them. Keep up the good work.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 14:42, 17 February 2011 (PST)
:Thanks. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 14:43, 17 February 2011 (PST)

thanks dude--[[User:CorinaLives|CorinaLives]] 08:25, 23 February 2011 (PST)

== the newly leaked Kacey call ==
The call I posted a transcript of is real, but I appreciate your doubts, it means you're doing your job. This is mainly here because I wanted to make sure that I had down the format. Way back when, this phone call (before Kacey and CWC first met) and another (after Kacey and CWC) were leaked on /cwc/. This was a long time ago and I was just waiting for them to leak so I wrote up the transcripts. To tell the truth, they both seem to be long lost someplace on my main computer, but luckily they're still on another one I use frequently. Its been far too long and I was looking for someone to help leak them on the wiki, that person is you I guess, because I'm not sure the best way to integrate these 2 calls. Sometime tomorrow I'll get the calls up on line and the transcript to the second call, if you want, you can move them where they need to go. [[User:FourPLUStwo|FourPLUStwo]] 23:00, 28 February 2011 (PST)

==Just a quick question==
I noticed something. When I'm logged in the userbox subcategories are there, but when I'm not logged in there not there. Is there a reason for this? Its not a ''big deal'', but I just want to make sure the subcategories are viewable to all users, and not just me.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 13:17, 3 March 2011 (PST)

==RE: Sign Posts==
I had already figured out how to do so. Thanks
--[[User:Miryag1|Diavna ----- diavna@gmail.com]] 14:07, 6 March 2011 (PST)

== the beavis and butthead thing ==

Well I kinda understand that, but from what I've seen around the site, a lot of articles make, what can mostly just be called specualtion, about Chris' psyche, in regards to different situations and elements of his life. Just thought I was doing the same thing. --[[User:NeoShadow|NeoShadow]] 13:58, 18 April 2011 (PDT)

:*Well, maybe the CWCki should have like a template thing that says ''WARNING: This section contains heavy speculation that hasn't really been confirmed to be true'' or something like that. I mean, let's say Chris is really done. He finally crashed into slumber for the last time. Then what? I mean, if all the CWCki does is archive only the facts of what we know, then that's a goal that can be easily reached and then what? the CWCki stays unchanged until someone finally stops paying for the domain? Speculation on Chris and why he does the things he does is what drives the CWC community, so I doubt that eliminating speculation from the biggest CWC related site would be a good idea. Then again, I guess I could just write my own speculation things on pages under my own userpage. i dunno. just think about it. glad i could help. --[[User:NeoShadow|NeoShadow]] 04:40, 19 April 2011 (PDT)
::* The CWCki doesn't have a template like that because if we allowed unchecked speculation the servers wouldn't be able to handle the strain or something. Not to mention the article quality would drop. Putting speculation on your own userpage is a terrible idea and an excelent way to piss people off, by the way. That's how Offshore got started, people started sperging on their userpages and it gave the CWCki latency issues. There is a difference between sperging and offering acceptable speculation, look at what was left in the Beavis and Butthead article and use that as a good example. --MoarLurk
:::*Not Trying to barge in, but I think the Speculation Warning would be a fantastic idea. --[[User:Ctahu|Ctahu]] 19:00, 19 April 2011 (PDT)

== Get with me ==

My contact info is on my user page, it's nothing bad, just have an idea to bounce off you.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:21, 22 April 2011 (PDT)

== Hey ==
Thanks for cleaning up the rewrites. Also the welcome message. I added in some references. Hope it's a bit better now. --[[User:Obligatory|Obligatory]] 10:41, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

==Freecell old boy==
I have an exciting proposition for you. I understand you're busy but get back to me when you get a chance.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:26, 11 May 2011 (PDT)

== Hey (again) ==
Obligatory here. (I'm retarded with passwords). I saw the awful state of the scattered articles about the clusterfuck of retconned characters in Sonichu 10 and tried to merge them into a single page. This is my attempt [[User:Old meme/Sandbox|here]]. Before I post anything I'd like you to look over it and make sure it's appropriate first, and feel free to edit it or put in tags if you feel references are needed anywhere. I'd like it to be in perfect condition before I put the page up. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 09:16, 13 May 2011 (PDT)

Sure do. The merged page is a combination of the [[Basement Rosechus]] page, [[Chaotic Combo (Asperchu)]] and [[Mitch Sonichu]]. I've only really removed stuff which was just a repeat of stuff already in the page, or else shit jokes and irreleveant information. I removed a section about fan works based on the Asper-Combo for instance, because that's all stupid bullshit, and a few random jabs at Chris made for no reason. I think the main meat of the articles are still there, but I might have missed some things. I added a lot of my own material as well, a lot of it being rewritten versions of things in the original articles. Check it all out and send me a message back if you think it's alright and after you've made any changes you feel are appropriate. Sorry I won't be on again for a while. I'm only on here two or three days a week, so you may have to wait a bit for me to respond again. Thanks again man. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 13:08, 13 May 2011 (PDT)

Hey, thanks for checking it over and everything. I just updated the image of Mitch and I added another image to put the quote that was in paranthesis (sorry if that's mispelt). Now everything's done I'm gonna ask Champ to have a look at it. Cya soon. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:12, 17 May 2011 (PDT)

How do I do that????????

==Thanks bro==
For picking up the slack with the revisions, I thought I got all of them but I missed a few. Thanks man.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:45, 26 May 2011 (PDT)

Its Armageddon, I forgot to sign my post... I use mediawiki so much I shouldn't though
[[User:New user|New user]] 21:36, 27 May 2011 (PDT)

== About the PSN comment ==
(ps2crazed)

I dont have any proof, it may have happened a few days ago, but I was only informed of the PSN comment change today, chris had not signed in for 6 days before today, so I don't assume he could have made the change then. I have no proof, feel free to remove the post if you wish to do so, do you know where the video of the day went? Someone must have removed it or something.

Oh sorry, but yes, I have no proof on the exact date of the psn change, but he hadnt been on for 6 days before, so I assumed it was that day.

[[User:Ps2crazed|Ps2crazed]] 15:27, 7 June 2011 (PDT)

== Freecell, I choose you! ==
I rewrote the [[Samurai Pizza Bots]] article [[User:Old meme/Sandbox|here]] as a merging of it and the articles on both [[Prower]] and [[Armoraxe]]. I thought I'd want to show it to you again to make sure it's all up to scratch before I bother Champ about submitting it. You think you can work your magic on this one too? Oh, and if you happen to notice that the images of Crackder, Punislav and the S.A.V.s are missing from the gallery of plagiarism, you don't need to add those back in. I intentionally took those out because I plan to make an equivalent article for the quote unquote "evil" transformers too. And yes, I do have no life. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 15:11, 21 June 2011 (PDT)
*And now the article for the evil robots is done too. That felt a lot faster than the first one. It's a merging of [[Decepti-Clone]], [[Crackder]] and [[Jerkop Punislav]] and is located [[User:Old meme/Sandbox 2|here]]. On the off chance you don't die of boredom, message me once you've made your corrections. Thanks in advance for this man. Very much appreciated. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 19:37, 21 June 2011 (PDT)
*'KAY MAN. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 03:49, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

==Yo mang==
Hit me up on AIM, I'll be on in the evenings the rest of the week.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:51, 14 July 2011 (PDT)

== Youdonttellmewhattodo ==

This guy's been blanking pages. Ban his ass.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 20:10, 17 July 2011 (PDT)

I would say that this could be Chris, but I don't think he has computer access. He can access the internet via the PS3, though.--[[User:Rena-kun|others > ;0; ;0; ;0; ^-^ < Rena-kun (me)]] 20:21, 17 July 2011 (PDT)

*This has been happening alot recently. I'm still not a pro at wiki, so how does one undo a revision, other than copying and pasting EVERYTHING that used to be there? I'm on cwcki alot so I can help out if I see it happening [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 09:21, 18 July 2011 (PDT)
** I had to fix some of the ones this guy vandalized. You just go to the revision history and click the (undo) at the end of this revision in the list. [[User:CompyRex|CompyRex]] 14:29, 18 July 2011 (PDT)

*I think you have to be an admin to do that.--[[User:Rena-kun|others > ;0; ;0; ;0; ^-^ < Rena-kun (me)]] 13:12, 18 July 2011 (PDT)

::CompyRex is right. A jerkop or greater also gets the rollback button, which is like the undo button but it reverts edits in a single click, rather than having to go through the edit page. Everyone has the undo button, though.[http://awesomescreenshot.com/0c4gujc89] [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 15:33, 18 July 2011 (PDT)

== Contact me ==

We need to speak. I'll be free tomorrow (26 July) from 7:30 a.m. - noon or after 8 p.m. EST. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:06, 25 July 2011 (PDT)

== Screenshot works I hope... ==

I did it...I think. [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Screen_shot_2011-08-10_at_10.01.05_PM.png] The "title" is really long and weird, hope you can change it if necessary because I have no idea how.... Feel free to censor anything that needs to be censored. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:15, 10 August 2011 (PDT)

== Not to be a nuisance, but... ==

How did you get music to play on your userpage?--[[User:ThatPianoGuy|ThatPianoGuy]] 15:00, 13 August 2011 (PDT)

== Deletion ==

I believe this[[File:Klingon.jpg|thumb]] needs to be burnt at the stake. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 17:38, 22 August 2011 (PDT)
:Unfortunately, there's nothing I can do about it because the image isn't "vandalism" per se. I'm sure Champ will oblige when he sees it. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 17:43, 22 August 2011 (PDT)
::I cant figure out what its supposed to be a drawing of... Do you know? Also... I saw that this guy vandelized the main page... What did he do exactly? Sorry im just curious... --[[User:Cupcake299|Cupcake299]] 17:51, 22 August 2011 (PDT)
:::[http://www.sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&curid=4207&diff=145221&oldid=143723 Nothing much.] Also, no idea. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 18:02, 22 August 2011 (PDT)

== Thanks for the quick reply ==

I appreciate your fast reply, and welcoming to the cwc wiki! I might not be able to contribute a whole lot, as i'm typing from an ipod touch and it's a nightmare to correct typos or do much of anything, but i'll try to use any constructive ideas to help out.

[[User:Martymoinklers|Martymoinklers]] 18:43, 31 August 2011 (PDT)

== Dude ==

If someone pulls shit like Hitlar did, you can reasonably ban them, albeit for a short period of time. Just don't abuse it, because frankly I don't feel like monitoring stupid shit like that.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:53, 3 September 2011 (PDT)

== Work is vanishing again. ==

I did a good few hours transcripting Kacey call 14 and for some reason It logged me out and when I pressed save it told me that only users, admins and chris (lol) could edit this page and it deleted all my work again (why the fuck does it do that anyway?) I tryed pressing back which brought me back to the edit screen which still had all my work deleted...

Is the anyway I can retrieve my work?
Im guessing no, but just in case...
-[[User:HitIar|HitIar "wunderbar!"]] 08:40, 4 September 2011 (PDT)

== hey man, I can you please bring my page back up? ==

Id like to be put under trolls. so people know I hate that fat bastard chris. I know i fucked up badly on it, can you correct it...im kinda busy working on ways to keep him off the web.
edit: oh...thanks man!

== I haz a sad... ==

You deleted my comment. Sad face. :(
- LORDCOCKWORTHINGTON

Edit:
Thank you sir, I shall do that from now on.
[[User:LORDCOCKWORTHINGTON|LORDCOCKWORTHINGTON]] 16:01, 15 October 2011 (PDT)

== Mighty fine work, Lou ==

I saw what you did with the Sonic the Hedgehog page, Christ almighty, that was a mess before you fixed it. Keep up the good work.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:44, 22 October 2011 (PDT)
:I don't do as much as I used to, but when I come across articles like that one I just can't help myself. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 09:36, 22 October 2011 (PDT)

== Yo ==

Hi, been following Chris since '08 but decided I wanted to help out.

Can you point me in the direction of anything that needs doing?

I'd do some editing but I'm kinda new to all this and don't want to shit up any pages.

[[User:Ulterior]] 04:10 28 Oct 2011

== it's over 9000 ==

meow comeon thats not vandalism, it was a page siting references to the very popular meme "It's over 9000" i saw that it had occurred a few times and wanted that fact documented.

Kinda hoping that the theme would catch on and we future interactions moew chris would keep it in mind. until over 9000 was actually over 9000 meow. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Slimz|Slimz]] ([[User talk:Slimz|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Slimz|contribs]]) 

== The forums ==

I think I might have deleted you on accident, I was fiddling around with making lists of users but I think I deleted you in the process. In any case, if you can't log back in, sign up again and I'll make you an admin again. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 20 November 2011 (PST)

== Signing your comments ==

Dude, you gotta sign your comments, it's four tildas (~) in a row, no idea what's going on with this "unsigned comment" bullshit. I expect more from jerkops man, you're totally killing me here.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:59, 29 November 2011 (PST)

== sorry ==

I was lerking and it looked legit --[[User:HeticBrangs|HeticBrangs]] 00:00, 30 January 2012 (PST)

what I said about Kendrick james kingrey being a troll is not bullshit though, i only stated he tried to say that he was as great as clyde cash but instead just a casual troll who wanted to cause damage to chris and become anonymous. Im currently finding more info on him

== Please acknowledge what you have said. ==

''"On a similar note, leaving things open for the reader to interpret is important. That's why articles don't outright insult Chris, even when he's clearly wrong. It may just be me, but I feel that calling 'her' "twisted" or using words like "interrogating" is biased, even if it is correct. So that's why I did that."''

I think [[Fail|this article]] sums up what the CWCki thinks about people insulting, or drawing their own conclusions about Chris. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 11:24, 3 March 2012 (PST)
:I'd say [[Help:A_Quick_Guide_to_CWCki#Try_to_aim_for_NPOV|this one]] does. I've tried to fix up the Fail article a couple times now. Not every article lives up to expectations. Maybe that I wasn't able to fix the Fail article makes me guilty of tu quoque, but I don't think that the existence of a bad article justifies the behavior that made it bad in the first place. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 12:01, 3 March 2012 (PST)

== been a long time ==

Ok so i was ban months ago from the message board. and then i tried a few times to get around the ban, and i was re-ban. I could have spoofed my IP and done it again but i decided to behave. I have been a contributor here on the wiki for a while now and i would love to be able to post on the boards again. is it possible that you or champ could lift that ban?[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 09:58, 16 May 2012 (PDT)(look i even signed my post)
:I guess you should ask Champ. I'm not the guy who banned you, after all. Sorry about the delayed reply, I was studying for an exam. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 05:01, 17 May 2012 (PDT)
*No. Besides, you started your own message board, isn't that good enough for you? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:54, 18 May 2012 (PDT)
**i abandon that months ago. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 11:32, 21 May 2012 (PDT)
*** Still here editing and behaving nicely, would still like legitimate access to the message boards restored. have not attempted to get past the bans (though my IP address has changed since then and it would not be difficult)[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 07:57, 7 August 2012 (PDT)

==Removing an Account==

Hey. I'm not sure who to go to to help out with this but I'd like to have all my User contributions rolled back and purged from whatever records you keep. Whether this means permanently banning me or otherwise, I'm not worried. See, I'm over the Sonichu thing and kind of don't want my username associated with it. It's somewhat embarrassing. (Is it possible to just change my username so in that it appears in the history of the wiki as somebody else? I'm convinced there's bots and shit to do this, but I don't know). [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 23:58, 18 May 2012 (PDT)
:I'm effectively just a regular user who can ban vandals. I honestly wouldn't know anything about that. I'd imagine Anonymax could get a bot to change all your talk page posts to say something else, and your account could be deleted, but I can't do either of those things. I'm sure Champ or Anonymax would be able to help more. Sorry that all I can do is redirect you. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 01:35, 19 May 2012 (PDT)
*Heyo, I looked into this but I'm afraid there's not much I can do. I've tried asking Cogs to install a Rename user extension but she's concerned that adding more extensions to MediaWiki will make it less stable (which is why he used to go down all the time). Best I can do for you is delete your user page. If it's any consolation, you have a pretty generic user name and googling it mostly comes up with the definition of "Nullity" which is an actual term. I totally sympathize with you, I've thought about getting my username changed but like I said, not much we can do. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:13, 20 May 2012 (PDT)
:*I forgot to mention that the only way to totally purge your name from the databases would be to manually delete it but [[User:Canine|Canine]] has told me before that it's easy to fuck things up that way and it wouldn't be hard to screw up the entire CWCki in the process. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:18, 20 May 2012 (PDT)
*Hey Champ. If you could remove my user pages that'd be great. I'd hold back on banning me on the off chance that Cogs changes his mind, though. Thanks
== Hi! ==

Thanks for fixing my crappy userboxes. It was too complicated! I'm [[Slow in the mind]]. --[[User:EvilCecil4th|EvilCecil4th]] 01:33, 7 June 2012 (PDT)

==CWCisSupremeLord here==
I agree with the revisions you made to my edits and would like to say thanks. Concerning the BlueSpike page however, I changed it because when it said that his voice is a "''particularly'' unconvincing falsetto" it implied that he had a masculine voice that sounded especially absurd when trying to impersonate a female. He has a very boyish voice that sounds effeminate even taking into account he was only 13 at the time. I agree that I was to verbose in getting that point across, so I'm going to simply remove the word "particularly". --[[User:CWCisSupremeLord|CWCisSupremeLord]] 16:29, 3 July 2012 (PDT)
:k —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 20:10, 3 July 2012 (PDT)

== About the Edit to my User page ==

It's fine. Thanks for reverting the edit. --[[User:KataclysmKat|KataclysmKat]] 1:38, 13 July 2012 (Central)

F Abstinance

2012-07-30T18:29:55Z

Slimz:

'''F Abstinance''' [sic] (officially "'''F Abstinance.MOV'''") is a video uploaded on to [[YouTube]] on 28 [[March 2010]]. Chris goes on a tirade about [[Wikipedia:Sexual abstinence|sexual abstinence]] for no other reason than having been an adult [[virgin with rage]].

Similar to his views on the [[friend zone]], he appears to cling viciously to the belief that he is owed sex merely because he exists. This video is also filled with irony, considering his Christian faith, once again proving that Chris knows nothing about [[Chris and religion|Christianity]] - only parroting things he hears and agrees with while ignoring things that give him prickly-wicklies. Its likely that Chris believes the fear of pre-marital sex is the only thing keeping women from having sex with him. Chris also tells everyone to not buy any of the [[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu books]] that [[Clyde Cash|Clyde]] has put on the internet because Chris [[Chris and copyright#Sonichu_as_a_copyrightable_work|is not getting paid for any of it.]] While he commands people not to buy any comics he goes on to say that "small things" such as [[Homos|toys]] and backpacks are okay.

Chris later removed this video, most likely at the request of [[Rocky Shoemaker]].

==Description==
{{quotebox|AND Practice Safe Sex with proper Condom or B.C. medication usage. Ask your parents or teachers for more info, or look it up on the internet or library.

Also, the [[Sonic the Hedgehog|Sonic]] and the Werehog Costumes in [[LittleBiGPlanet]]; the Headdress needs to be TWO PARTS; EARS for HEAD, and SPIKES for HAIR. And the Spines and Tail need to be TWO PARTS; TAIL for WAIST, and Spines for NECK.}}

{{Tardrage}}

==Video==
{{Infobox/video
| name = F Abstinance.MOV
| video = {{#ev:youtube|LDYPVhQ8yeU}}
| stardate = 28 [[March 2010]]
| subject = {{Sex|text}}
| style = {{Rage|text}}
| saga =
| shirt = {{CaptainFalconShirt|text}}
| previous = [[Cleveland Show Voice Rant]]
| next = [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]
}}

{{quote|And you can tell 'em that I, Christian Weston Chandler, promotes you to say "FUCK ABSTINENCE!"}}

=== Transcript ===
[[Image:Cwc-abstinence.jpg|thumb|left|What Chris intends to do.]]
[[Image:OBJECTION by TOCDrawings.png|thumb|Another dramatization.]]

[''Chris [[Pedo-Glasses#Dramatic glasses removal|dramatically removes his glasses]] as the video begins.'']

Just a thought that I'd like to share with everybody:

Abstinence, if you're just learning about it, abstinence is nothing but crap. It is a whole fucking bunch of baloney. If eh- if I had the opportunity, I would- if I was in an assembly, I would stand right up in my chair and I would say "FUCK UP- FUCK ABSTINENCE!"

[''Chris thrusts his right index finger in the air for emphasis.'']

Shout it right to the choir. I mean 'cause if you got abstinence, then what- then what do you get? End up being an [[Christian Weston Chandler|adult virgin]], or even worse, a [[Barbara Chandler|senior citizen]] virgin and that is like a hell to most anybody. And you can tell 'em that I, Christian Weston Chandler, [[Chris and English|promotes]] you to say "FUCK ABSTINENCE!"

[''Chris punctuates his shout with another fist-pump, then collects himself and puts on his glasses.'']

Updates are to come on the [[CWCipedia]] soon and do not buy any of the quote unquote books anywhere on the Internet because I have not approved of any such books [[Chris and copyright#Sonichu_as_a_copyrightable_work|and I'm not getting a dim- and I'm not seeing a penny out of that.]] So if there's anything that I'm not seeing a penny out of, eh- books or DVDs, yeah do not buy. Otherwise would like, you know [[Kimmi|dolls]], [[Sex toys|toys]], backpacks wh- that sort of- that sort of small thing, yeah that's fine, that's okay. I'll approve that.

Anyway, everybody else, have a good day.
{{clear}}

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{{Videos}}

[[Category:Videos Christian uploaded to YouTube]]
[[Category:Videos with RAGE]]
[[Category:Chris-chan videos, March 2010| 2010-03-28]]
[[Category:CWCipedia Saga videos| 2010-03-28]]

The Wallflower

2012-07-30T18:28:14Z

Slimz:

:''For the CWCipedia page, see [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia Page)]]. For usage of her name on the [[CWCki]], see [[CWCki:The Wallflower|The Wallflower (policy)]]''
{| class="infobox" style="width: 21em; font-size: 90%;"
|-
! colspan="2" | Sweethearts
|-
| colspan="2" | [[File:Aliteralallflower.jpg|200px]]
|-
! colspan="2" |The Wallflower
|-
| '''Name'''
| '''[REDACTED]'''
|-
| '''Alias'''
| The Wallflower Damian Antaria
|-
| '''Gender'''
| [[Sweetheart|Female]]
|-
| '''Nationality'''
| [[United States of America|American]]
|-
| '''Race'''
| [[Chris and race|White]]
|}

{{quote|And, who cares if you're a fucking acoustic virgin? ... Not even a cheap whore would want your small dick inside her, neither would I.|The Wallflower, [[Wallflower E-mails 3|speaking for women everywhere.]]}}

'''"The Wallflower"''', a.k.a. '''Damian Antaria''', is the heir to [[Megan Schroeder]], a [[gal pal|female friend]] that [[Chris]] met some time around early [[2010]]. She is one of the few girls Chris has managed to associate with in his post-[[high school]] years who is not (as far as can be seen) a direct result of trolling. In [[March 2010]], she joined the long list of would-be [[sweetheart]]s with whom Chris has failed to lose his once hated virginity.

The Wallflower wanted the relationship over after a [[troll]] linked The Wallflower to the [[CWCki]]. The ending of their relationship is most likely a result of having her details leaked over the [[Internet]] and Chris exacerbating the problem. Nevertheless, Chris has taken it upon himself to blame those goddamn trolls for destroying yet another chance at getting some [[china]].

==The "Relationship"==
{{quote|It was getting deep. We hung out at her house in her room; it was comfy. No sex or mouth-to-mouth.|Chris [[Jackie Chat 1|explains the deepness]] of his relationship with The Wallflower.}}
{{See also|Wallflower E-mails}}
Exactly when Chris first met her is not clear, though it is suspected that [[Rocky]] may have had something to do with it. While he usually jumps at the chance to advertise his involvement with some of his other women friends to the world, he initially made only oblique, passing references to this one.

[[File:ClydeandLovelyweather.jpg|thumb|The Wallflower on her [[third date]] with [[Clyde Cash]].]]

The first signs of Chris's involvement with The Wallflower showed up in late [[January 2010]]. In [[Mailbag 46#Two hip wallflowers|Mailbag #46]], answered on 26 January, Chris claimed to have joined a "Young Adult Social Group" and "met a lovely woman there who likes me too; we are hitting it off like two hip wallflowers." The Wallflower was sent to the Youth Adult Social Group at the advice of her mother. Around the same time, in [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 3|Alec Benson Leary Phone Call #3]] (which took place on 30 January), Chris said he was expecting a phone call that may have been from her.

In the 14 [[February 2010]] edition of the [[CWC Blog#February 2010|CWC Blog]], Chris declared that "currently, my girl friend and I are getting along great; the relationship is progressing. I only ask for y'all to leave me with my relationship, and not make me feel intruded by inquiring constantly." When a correspondent in [[Mailbag 56#On appreciating tone (also the end)|Mailbag #56]] challenged Chris to prove the existence of his new "girl friend", Chris replied "She does exist, and I do not appreciate your tone at all."

The relationship was, at best, "just friends". Chris himself has confirmed this in [[Sonichu_Forum#News Flash: Chris is still single IRL|one of his posts on the Sonichu Forum]] and again in a [[Jackie Chat 1|private chat]] with [[Jackie]]. Chris's angry remarks on the subject of the "friend zone" in the [[Common Questions#15_January_2010|15 January 2010]] edition of the Mailbag most likely stems from [[Wallflower E-mails|The Wallflower rejecting any romantic advances]].

In [[Vivian Gee E-mails 2|a series of e-mails to Vivian]], it was revealed that Chris had been seeing The Wallflower for a while, treating her as his girlfriend in almost the same manner he had treated Megan. He had taken her out on a date and had plans for a second. He even admitted to attempting to talk her into taking his [[virgin with rage|virginity]] on or before his birthday, and had planned to pay for a prostitute if she did not.

Even with all evidence to the contrary, in his [[03212010 C-Ya Later.MOV|"C-Ya Later" video]], he unabashedly [[Chris and Reality|refers to her as his]] [[Boyfriend-free girl|"girlfriend"]], despite outright stating earlier that she had refused all his advances.

A series of [[Wallflower E-mails|e-mails]] revealed by [[Surfshack Tito]] reveals that Chris's attachment to The Wallflower had been a one-sided relationship to Chris as The Wallflower, indeed, had no intention of being with Chris and was shocked and appalled at the fact that Chris even ''thought'' that she was his sweetheart.

==The "Break-up"==
{{quote|Got-Dang Asexual Woman!|Chris in his [[CWCipedia]] page on The Wallflower.}}

[[File:The link.jpg|thumb|How to troll both Chris and his trolls in one simple step.]]

When Chris released a ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]'' level that revealed The Wallflower's identity, one troll decided to link her to the CWCki.

On 10 March 2010, Chris released [[A message to the Trolls|a message to the trolls]]. Emotionally distraught, he speaks in vague terms about troll interference in his life, and of the pains of a broken heart. At the same time, in a [[Cwc blog|Captain's Log]] entry on the CWCipedia, Chris mentioned "BREAK-UPS FROM BEING EVEN SIMPLY FRIENDS WITH ME," which presumably refers to her cutting off all contact with him.

In the wee hours of 11 March 2010, Chris released [[Don't Mess With Me|a second video]], in which he acted out a theoretical meeting between him and an imaginary [[Clyde Cash]] that ended with Chris slitting an invisible Clyde Cash's throat. Going by that, it's likely that Chris initially blamed the loss of The Wallflower on his old nemesis.

However, on 14 March 2010, Chris uploaded a new video and shifted the blame to another troll, [[Surfshack Tito]]. In between delivering [[Tito Got No Luck Against We Brits, Irish and Scots!|bizarre threats of violence]], Chris makes a resolution to "regain the love and trust and friendship" of his gal pal. It is not clear why Chris believes he can accomplish this goal by donning a kilt, waving around a small knife, putting on a grotesque attempt at a Scottish accent, and generally presenting a hideous affront to the culture and people of an entire nation.

Later that same day, Chris made [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|another video]] where he again referred to The Wallflower by her pen name, and literally begged her to sleep with him because his life was so hard, and otherwise he would have to pay $100 for sex with a hooker.

In the [[Surfshack Tito E-mails]], leaked four days later, Chris was mocked by Tito claiming to have had sex with The Wallflower. While Chris was initially incredulous, in a [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|later video]] he expressed outrage at Tito for "taking her from [him]," as Wallflower had recently begun to back up his claims.

The [[Wallflower E-mails 3|third set of e-mails to The Wallflower]] finally confirms what had happened. As seen, The Wallflower was outright shocked at the vastness of information on her page within the [[CWCki]], assumed that Chris had set the page up himself, and ended their friendship. Chris, however, kept trying to salvage their relationship long after it became obvious that he didn't have a chance, angering her even more. She also asserted her hatred of Chris by first saying that Tito was indeed her boyfriend before giving up and just telling him that she was asexual.

==Today==
It seems that, nearly a year and a half since the events of that March morning, Chris has yet to forget her as, [[Calling Out|returning to the Internet]], he calls out Tito and demands that he apologize to her for breaking them up, still referring to her as his "girlfriend". However, a few days later, Chris made [[Correction of EX relationship status|a retraction video]], apparently clarifying that they were indeed just friends. The description of the video seems to suggest that she found out about the video and demanded he correct it.

Interestingly, though he hasn't forgotten about her, he hasn't ''"forgiven her"'' for it.

==Anonymity==
Originally, this article intruded into parts of The Wallflower's life that had nothing to do with Chris, prompting her to request that the article be reworked to refer to her under a pseudonym and avoid direct references to her personal life and identity. The CWCki's administrators reasonably agreed.

Chris is convinced that this change took place because of the angry threats he made in his video of 10 March 2010 (roughly around the time the edits were made), when in fact it had nothing to do with him. The changes to this page led him to believe that he could insist on sweeping edits to many other pages, which he listed in the [[CWC Blog#14 March 2010|14 March 2010 Captain's Log update]] on the CWCipedia. Those demands were ignored.

The e-mails from The Wallflower seem to paint a fuller picture to this. It appears that when The Wallflower discovered her page on the CWCki, she got pissed at Chris and demanded that he remove that information. However, he did it through his [[YouTube]] videos. Annoyed, she went to the CWCki herself.

Chris, in the meantime, continued to drop her first name and pen name in his videos, including [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|one]] which had it in the title.

Chris later also uploaded [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|a list of his former gal-pals and sweethearts]] on the CWCipedia which included her full name. Chris goes on to blame the existence of her [[Facebook]] page for the leak of her identity and the end of their budding relationship.

Continuing with this theme, 19 [[April 2010]] would see Chris adding an [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia Page)|''entire article'']] about her to the CWCipedia. In addition to the usual fits of megalomania and delirium, the page sported a copy-pasted version of this page. Conspicuously absent, however, was this very section.

To this day, he believes the entire debacle was the Wallflower's fault for having a Facebook page for trolls to discover. [[Calling Out|Recently]], though, Chris has seen fit to ''partially'' [[Chris and remorse|accept blame]] for what happened.

==See also==
*[[Wallflower E-mails]]
*[[Wallflower E-mails 2|Wallflower E-mails II]]
*[[Wallflower E-mails 3|Wallflower E-mails III]]

==External links==
{{CWCipedia|chris=Damien_Anteria|linkname=Damien Antaria}}
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do6CczCBpl A Tribute]

{{DEFAULTSORT:Wallflower}}
{{People}}
{{Love quest}}
[[Category:Surfshack Tito Saga]]

Talk:Virgin with rage

2012-07-30T18:26:36Z

Slimz: /* Get out your brooms */ new section

==To do==
*add references to the phrase "virgin with rage" in Chris's works
*note how he associates violence with sex (he's a "virgin with rage", sex is described in "gory" details, etc.)
*Also how he masturbates or how he drew that picture of Megan to quell violent urges so he doesn't "fly off the handle." --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:12, 8 June 2009 (CEST)
*Another thing Chris stole, that line about hormones slam banging is from the first episode of Space Ghost Coast to Coast. Good job Chris, you can't even be a horny creep without stealing something. [[User:Admiral Klank|Admiral Klank]] 20:37, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

==Views on virginity==
In my opinion, the section could be expanded with statements Chris made about virginity in general and the properties he connects with losing one's virginity.
*He stated several times that just about everyone else loses their virginity in their teens, seemingly unaware of reality and statitics regarding this, for example that 4% of Americans will die a virgin or that 10% of males leaving higher education are still virgins, not to mention about 1 in 3 18-year olds of both sex. He might be simply unaware of this, ignore statistics in his self-centered view or because of the implication that he most likely will be one of the 4%(unless he goes to a prostitute).
*This page could also be linked to the one where he describes his fantasy-scenario of losing it to PandaHalo.
*He also implies that experiencing the "Power of Sex" will instantly transform his character, as he justifies his poor social skills regarding chatting up woman with "How should I know, I'm a Virgin" in the VivitheG-chat. There are probably more references of this kind out there.
*He probably also thinks that it would prove him being hetero. Some people on the autism spectrum experience difficulties identyfying their gender preferences unless they had some kind of physical evidence (I just read of a case of a sexually deviant autist who was sexually assaulted by an older man he regarded as a father figure and therefore concluded he had to be bisexual).
Actually, that would also explain his staunt view on male homosexuality to some extent, because he can not be entirely sure of his sexual identity unless there is something to "prove" it, also evidenced by his "I'm heterosexual" video.
I just want to know your opinions before including and referency stuff.[[User:Miela|Miela]] 13:17, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

== On Chris touching Megan ==

There are a couple of needed citations about which specific parts of Megan's anatomy Chris inappropriately touched. It is entirely possible that Chris touched both Megan's hair and Megan's shoulder without her consent.

What supports the notion of Chris touching Megan's hair is [[Megan_Emails,_Aug-Dec_2007#Megan_is_annoyed_and_creeped_out|this mail]] by Megan. There she states: "''The way you went off on Nina because she patted me on the head was very rude and uncalled for. Just because someone else has made physical contact with me doesn't give you the authority to do so''". It could be assumed from this that Chris, at some point, tried to mimic Nina by patting Megan on the head.

What supports the notion of Chris touching Megan's shoulders is [[Megan_Emails,_2005-2006#Pinned_against_the_wall|this mail]] by Megan. There she states: "''So PLEASE don't touch me anymore ok? I don't like it! And last wed you really had me pinned against the wall''". What comes to mind when thinking about someone pinning someone else against a wall is for the first person to put his hands in the other person's shoulder area. However, given Chris's weight and clumsiness, it can be argued that he pinned her without the need of using his hands.

The notion of touching her shoulders can also be supported by Lucas' [[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris_and_Megan|response]]: "''He was constantly putting his arm around her and shit and it got to the point where she would take refuge in the midst of our group of bros''". Given the relative height between Megan and Chris it is possible that he put his arm around her and rested his hand on her shoulder. Once again, given Chris's peculiar body language and general clumsiness this can't be taken as fact.

So, even thought it is quite probable that Chris touched Megan in those specific spots, it can't be demonstrated as fact given the sources available. I would recommend to rephrase the sentence to a more general description of his inappropriate touching and add Chris's [[Megan_Emails,_2005-2006#Don.27t_kiss_me.2C_bro|attempt to kiss Megan]]. --[[User:Galford|Galford]] 18:32, 12 January 2012 (PST)

* O.o --[[User:Shefap2|Shefap2]] 15:59, 13 January 2012 (PST)

==Virgin No More?==

Is there any way we can confirm this? I mean, on the one hand, ''holy shit''. On the other, it's something so farfetched and shocking that it just doesn't seem possible! I mean, yes, we got a Facebook page, but that could easily be faked. --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 10:13, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if this was just another one of Chris' plans to stop the trolls, hoping that we'll stop picking on him once he's a true and honest non virgin. I mean really
what are the chances of Chris getting laid and by a Cherokee at that; the thing he's been sperging over since god knows when? --[[User:Gustofwind|Gustofwind]] 20:29, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
:If it was part of Chris' plan to stop the trolls, he'd have told the trolls. Really, the reason he did it was because he thought he was going to die and he didn't want to die a virgin. Now, really, Chris is terrible at phrasing and a hooker is going to feed him bullshit stories. She's probably not actually a Cherokee. Chris /believes/ she was a Cherokee. There's a big difference between the two. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 09:19, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

The update regarding his "partner" informing him of how good his "large" penis felt should be an immediate red flag. --[[User:ItLurksInTheWalls|ItLurksInTheWalls]] 20:43, 12 April 2012 (PDT)
: According to some links to Cogsdev's twitter... Chris paid a prostitute about $250 to have sex with him (according to Cogsdev's sources/contacts). If Cogsdev says it's true... it's probably true...SO, that leaves us with the probably that Chris has finally lost his virginity... but it was to a prostitute, and I'm pretty sure that's cheating.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:58, 12 April 2012 (PDT)

A $250 hooker? Jeez, it must have been a mess down there.

Note how he actually said dick instead of duck. Im calling fake.
[[User:Dkd|Dkd]] 10:41, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

:He said dick in his famous [[CWC%27s_Second_Message#Transcript]]. Plus, the screencap isn't fake, if that's what you're saying. I took it myself. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 10:51, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

== It may have been a hack ==

Apparently 45 minutes ago Chris Chan via his PS Vita released a statement on how trolls said he bought a hooker.

http://789chan.org/cwc/src/133429340253.png

I completely agree with this. The fact that Chris is so "It put the last guy to shame" and especially the "We hit it off and exchanged numbers". Oh brother, I'm amazed he didn't resort to the "We were pre-ordering LittleBigPlanet" story yet again, a la Chloe.

In a week, no doubt this will be just another bogus lie thought up by Chris. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] 08:34, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

*It was not a lie. When Chris lied about Chloe, he was lying to all of his trolls. Why would he lie to his circle of friends? Furthermore, Cogs confirms that the screencaps uploaded by Jimmy Jazz are legit.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 08:40, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

Chris has no real friends and he knows the trolls keep up with his Facebook. Either way, I'll believe it when I see more solid proof, right now it's just all speculation.

Not like it matters anyway; any idiot can go hire a whore; though my congrats that he obviously found one absolutely dedicated to her job, if bought all that BS she was spouting. And even touching Chris, let alone fucking him; she should get a medal. Though, with this new screencap with him screaming that it wasn't a prostitute, then sorry, that screams BS to me.

So Chris just met a random stranger who wanted to fuck him and they "hit it off". Uh huh, sure. I'm more willing to believe the hooker story, not a normal girl; at least not one without severe metal retardation. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] 08:46, 13 April 2012 (PDT)
*Please read my post again. I said all images uploaded by Jimmy Jazz are legit. By that, I mean only the initial announcement and Chris's witch hunt through his friends list are real. The third one was deleted after being uploaded, as it is fake. Furthermore, Cogs has confirmed that everything Jimmy uploaded is legit. This should be all the proof you need. Chris did in fact purchase a hooker and have sex. The only thing you should speculate about is whether or not he shat himself in the process.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 08:53, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

I'm still wary, sorry. Even these apparent official screencaps (on the page) have numerous contradictory claims or red flags.
"We did it in her room"
Chris actually traveled to meet a woman? Unlikely. Do hookers use their own private rooms for sex? Don't think so.

And this "We hit it off and exchanged numbers" just bugs the hell out of me. Like I said, he either got the best hooker in the business (ie, one who knows how to lie like a pro to all her loser clients) or it wasn't a hooker. And I'm sorry, but if it wasn't a hooker, I can't believe it. I need more solid proof than just "Cogs confirmed it." Doesn't that mean all they confirmed is that Chris actually wrote those? Not the fact that he's lying? You know... I need more proof, which will come in a few days. Until them, all I'm saying is, I'm highly skeptical about it.

A prostitute, I can believe, but there's so many contradictory statements that don't say prostitute, so we'll see... --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] 09:02, 13 April 2012 (PDT)
*There's a difference between "travel out of state"(every fake girlfriend ever) and "drive for 20 minutes to an arbitrary location"(hookers). For one, Chris can sneak out and visit a hooker without Barb noticing anything off. Hookers do not own their own private rooms, yes, but remember that Chris is terrible at phrasing things. By "her room" he probably means "the hotel room we arranged to meet at". Simple. And it really isn't "pro" lying to tell a delusional fat nerd that his deformed penis isn't horrible. If anything it's standard business practice as far as hookers are concerned. Cogs confirming it should be all the proof you need. Please point out any other "contradictory" statements, because I don't see any.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 09:11, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

* That looks like a fake screenshot to me. I know that updates on Facebook don't usually have an indent where "45 minutes ago" is. Plus, the text looks different from the other screenshots. Personally, if Chris really did say that, it's yet another lie, he already tried to get a prostitute before when she hung up on him. And why would Chris take offense to trolls saying that he lost his virginity, anyway? [[User:ElRodrigo|ElRodrigo]] 15:53, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

* Well, now we know it's fake, Chris is bragging about it on Facebook. [[User:ElRodrigo|ElRodrigo]] 07:39, 14 April 2012 (PDT)

* In Chris's latest Facebook update, he states that no one will ever find out who the half Cherokee woman is. He does give us an "inkling" that "she's somewhere on the backpage." What exactly does that mean? Back page of the phone book? Or does it refer to somewhere on his Facebook wall? --[[User:Violettheory|Violettheory]] 21:29, 1 May 2012 (PDT)
::It's referring to [http://charlottesville.backpage.com/ this]. It looks like it's a place for business transactions and its has an "escorts" section, so it's basically confirming that it was a hooker. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 21:41, 1 May 2012 (PDT)
:::Is it possible to search through the ads and find her? --[[User:Superspy103|Superspy103]] 10:16, 22 May 2012 (PDT)
::::Anything is possible. However, the type of search you are suggesting would be so broad it would be unlikely to yield any serious results. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 13:18, 22 May 2012 (PDT)

== Why are we assuming that Chris is telling the truth? ==

He has lied about his first sexual encounter before. Remember "Chloe?" --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 08:57, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

If you read above, Cogs tweeted that he bought a hooker.

When did he ever say that he had sex with Chloe? All I remember is Chris claiming that they had a date at Taco Bell and "kissed deeply", that's it.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 09:04, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

Yeah, he's never lied about having sex. Plus, like I've said before, this event wasn't for other people. Chris had sex because he didn't want to die a virgin. Chris thought he was going to die in jail so he thought he was going to die very soon. So he had to lose his virginity. It actually happened.

Now, although it actually happened, I'm not claiming that 100% of Chris' post is accurate. A hooker is going to tell him bullshit. Also he's really shitty at describing things. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 09:23, 13 April 2012 (PDT)
: He says that Chloe WAS his "Virgin-Taker"... I guess people assumed that this meant he said he had sex. I'm kinda thinking, that with Chris being as shitty at describing things as he is, meant that she was going to be, what we would consider, "The One". Though, I'm still not sure if he had sex. If he did... well she wasn't free and this woman (or man...) was dedicated to her job...--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 10:42, 13 April 2012 (PDT)
:: Oh, right, I forgot about that. Heh, and a lot of people keep saying that the hooker really earned whatever Chris paid or whatever because of how gross Chris is. I don't think people realize that hookers have to deal with johns a lot worse than Chris. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 10:56, 13 April 2012 (PDT)
::: I'm not in on that twitter stuff, so I don't know where to find these updates. But what about the image linked to here? Chris is clearly upset at the notion of people claiming he is no longer a virgin. --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 17:48, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

= Does Barb know about this? =

I know, stupid question. I'm just curious to know what'll happen in Barb finds out. [[User:ElRodrigo|ElRodrigo]] 08:03, 14 April 2012 (PDT)
:I'm assuming she doesn't know or doesn't care. 1) She has more stuff to worry about right now 2) I believe Chris answers the home phone now that Mr. Chandler is gone 3) Chris gets the mail and has admitted that he sometimes takes mail addressed to his parents. So, it'd be hard for someone to tell her and if they did... well I don't think she'll care that her son finally had sex. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 12:39, 14 April 2012 (PDT)

= New note from Chris about the "experience". =

I was just looking through his notes and found [https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=269167789844374 this] where he confirms (or further pushes a lie?) that he has had sex. --[[User:Morbid Duck|Morbid Duck]] 13:46, 14 April 2012 (PDT)
*Never mind, I just found out that somebody had already beaten me to it by posting it to the [[Facebook]] article. --[[User:Morbid Duck|Morbid Duck]] 13:49, 14 April 2012 (PDT)

== Holy crap I had an idea ==

You know how prostitution is illegal in Virgina? And how Chris already has legal problems? And how Chris's virginity was bugging him for a long time, and losing it was the best moment of his life? If Chris is telling the truth, then some troll can just call the police and rat him out. Has anyone else thought of this? Is anyone actively trolling Chris right now?--[[User:Germanicus|Germanicus]] 16:00, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

epin ween brah xd [[User:Eamoo|Eamoo]] 07:25, 5 May 2012 (PDT)

* Trying a bit too hard, ain't ya? Besides, even if the police did take anybody seriously on this, what evidence do they have to charge Chris with? Words on THAT DAMN INTERNET? What, are they going to threaten to cut it down, or something? [[User:ElRodrigo|ElRodrigo]] 04:57, 30 May 2012 (PDT)

* Nobody actually believes that Chris lost his virginity, do they? [[User:Ano de freshman|Ano de freshman]]
** i believe he may have, but im more worried that now that he has had it, he will turn into a sexual predator.[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 06:17, 8 June 2012 (PDT)

== Get out your brooms ==

It looks like there is still a lot of reference on the pedia to chis still being a virgin. im gonna start to clean that up but i could use some help.. fix it faggots [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 11:26, 30 July 2012 (PDT)

Talk:Duck

2012-07-24T18:34:43Z

Slimz: /* Gallery? */

Judging by the photos, I see a case of Peyronie's disease. [[User:BubblegumPinkButler|BubblegumPinkButler]] 06:12, 27 April 2009 (CEST)

It could also be a case of a broken penis; a blunt force injury to an erection. Judging from what the family finances seem to be, it could be that they just couldn't afford the surgery to fix it.--[[User:LizardPie|LizardPie]] 09:53, 12 May 2009 (CEST)

Maybe the ExtenZe has something to do with the whacked-out shape? It might exacerbate the problem at least. Jesus on the Christ River, that's a horrifying penis. [[User:Ensign disposable|Ensign disposable]] 04:30, 1 July 2009 (CEST)

I can agree to the Peyronie's explanation. Barbara and Bob were in their 40's and 60's (respectively) when Chris was born. Having a child at such a late age puts them at risk for a multitude of diseases and disorders. This could be the cause of the many syndromes and diseases that trols have diagnosed Chris with. --[[User:Howsyourham|Howsyourham]] 19:43, 12 July 2009 (CEST)

A botched circumcision may also lead to a bent penis, among other disfigurements. [[User:V3N0M1300|V3N0M1300]] 06:08, 13 August 2009 (CEST)

==Merge==
I suggest we merge Duck and Pickle into Penis. All of the CWCisms for [[China]] are on the same page. --[[User:Megaman|''Megaman!'' ]] [[Image:MegaManXRunning.gif]] 15:15, 29 July 2009 (CEST)
*Yes, they are both terms for penises but they're both distinct as well. Pickle has a rich history and is typically associated to penises drawn on his female characters while duck tends to be in reference to his own genitalia. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:36, 30 July 2009 (CEST)

:*In other words, it's advisable to keep the two pages separate. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:36, 30 July 2009 (CEST)

*Furthermore, the case with "china" is that the CWC-isms for "china" are isolated instances (one reference to "vaginatables" and one instance to "tom tom") that they really don't warrant their own pages. China only gets its own page because of the classic "DYKES DYKES CHINA!" and because it's been discussed in [[Sonichu 8]] that the Rosechu's genitalia is also known as a "china." The term "pickles" however, has frequent use and Chris seems to have a phobia of even pickles on his food (see episode 2 from [[Sonichu 0]] where Sonichu says how he hates pickles) and the receipt from when he went to visit Julie and ordered his food with no pickles, though he's also used "duck" several times in reference to his own genitalia, such as "MY DUCK HUNGERS FOR TOM-TOM TO POUND!!!!"

:So yeah, they really shouldn't be merged. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:53, 3 August 2009 (CEST)

Does he use the term "duck" in reference to his own "pickle"? It seems that way.

*Yeah, it seems that he's used "duck" only in reference to his own penis. That and/or the whole "pickle" meme from trolls (ex. drawing actual pickles on Rosechu) has caused Chris to hate pickles so much, he is afraid of even saying the world. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:36, 30 July 2009 (CEST)
:*Pickle and duck have both gained quite some cult-status separately from eachother. They also refer to different things. Also, they are different words in the CWCism-glossary. So I guess it shouldn't be too much of a problem to keep them as two different articles... [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 02:54, 12 August 2009 (CEST)

==This page is getting convaluted==

We should probably stop with the extra pictures and quotes until the article is longer. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 22:16, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

== Duck.jpg ==

I propose the removal of Duck.jpg [http://cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:Duck.jpg] because it isn't a fact. The peanut butter on the dick myth arose from a retard on ED [http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Talk:Chris-chan/Archive9#CHRIS_.28doesn.27t.29_COVER_HIS_DUCK_IN_PEANUT_BUTTER] who faked a conversation with Chris. [[User:CrassCrab|CrassCrab]] 19:26, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

I think it should be removed but another thing that bugs me about this page is the Pic of Chris bent duck I know this page is meant for it but I just think its a eye sore, so would it be alright if it were put in box like the other pic of Chris's duck on the [[Sex]] page?--[[User:Kota88|Kota88]] 14:59, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
*I'm pretty sure it already was on the Sex page, but I had it removed from there already (See the talk page, my old username was Thelieisacake). Based on the discussion we had there, I think it's safe to say that nobody will complain if it's removed from here as well. I'll do it now. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 15:38, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

== Still relevant? ==

Has Chris even said 'duck' since [[Julie]]? - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 05:52, 9 December 2010 (PST)
:*[[SingStar_Challenge_Round_5#IBAChandler.27s_Initial_Entry|Yes]]. But even if he never says it again, we'd still need an article for it, right?[[User:Dethchemist77|Dethchemist77]] 09:03, 9 December 2010 (PST)

==For fuck's sake.==

The image at the corner of the page is pretty funny yeah, but what bright spark used a non-transparent version that covers up most of what's on that side of the page? Can someone fix this? I'd do it myself but I'd break the page. [[User:MonocleClaire|MonocleClaire]]

== Gallery? ==
As disgusting as it is, I think this page needs moar images of our infamous hero's cream horn, to give it's viewers moar of an idea of what it looks like. Normally, I would just go ahead and add it, but it seemed like a controversial move to me. - [[User:Sonichufork|Sonichu Fork]] 13:34, 22 July 2012 (PDT)

WHile i understand your pov, i think that information is widely available here http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Sex_tape [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 11:34, 24 July 2012 (PDT)

CWCki talk:Current events

2012-07-18T18:54:32Z

Slimz: /* Suggest removal of current events link */

Okay, so what is up with the Jackie thing? Did she dump him? Is she a troll? —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Popanator|Popanator]] ([[User talk:Popanator|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Popanator|contribs]]) 
:Questions of this nature are best asked on [http://hsienko.com/kiki/ Offshore CWCki] or [[IRC]]. If you read the [[Jackie Chat 1|Jackie chatlogs]] you'll learn quite a bit. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 21:26, 22 November 2010 (PST)

== Suggest removal of current events link ==

There have been no current events for like 11 months. do we still need the link in the main menu? [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 12:03, 3 January 2012 (PST)
* ok this current events link is still here and needs to be removed (from the main menu) because there are no current events, otherwise we need some current events. Yeah dawg i like current events so put some current events in my current events so i can be informed while i'm getting informed [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:32, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*Supporting this. This page seems completely pointless anyway. It's like a news page, except all the news is old and shorter than most of the Da Update stuff. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 12:23, 27 January 2012 (PST)
:* ok since my revision was reverted, what is the solution to this issue?[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 12:34, 7 February 2012 (PST)
:For reference, adding false entries that don't refer to current events is not the solution. Edits like that are counter-productive as hell and just make you seem more like a troll than a genuine editor. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 12:37, 7 February 2012 (PST)
::* ok this page is old, unused, out of date, deprecated and obsolete. It has been made obsolete by Da Update and has not been updated in over a year. It is linked from a main navigation spot. Its continued existence makes the entire wiki look bad. Please either remove it or at least make Current Events in the main navigation link to Da Update.Sorry If my concern about the inaccuracy and aging nature of this page are a bother, but i cant make this change myself.
:::*"Da update" has and always been for Chris related updates. The current event page has been for CWCki related updates. I generally have only added stuff to it when something major happens like the launching of a new project or trying to make a significant site change that requires user input (like getting rid of the Fan Works). Given that these sort of things don't happen that much, it's not updated much. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, we only really need to make huge changes when they're needed.
::::I'm not singling you out, but I think some people think we need to constantly update stuff, like it somehow looks bad if we're not constantly updating. I see this especially with Da Update, where people will add really trivial stuff to Da Update just so it's more up to date. People are going to keep coming back here, we're the most reliable source of Chris information out there and people are going to keep coming back no matter what. Similar issue here - just because it's not updated constantly doesn't mean we should get rid of the current events. People are going to check it to see what's new with the CWCki and if there's nothing new going on, so be it. I suppose we could start adding trivial shit like policy changes and all that but I think that's just sorta silly.
::::I also looked at how Wikipedia handles their "Current events" page and it looks like it's current events in general, not Wikipedia related. We could treat it like that, except it'd be stickier given current trends, as we might be doing pages on a quarterly instead of monthly basis like we used to.
::::In any case though, Cogs would have to remove the link, I have no way to change that, at least that I know of. And for the love of God Slimz, sign your fucking posts, you've been warned multiple times, if it happens again you'll get a banning. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:03, 8 February 2012 (PST)
:::::It doesn't require Cogs (I know how to do it), but I don't feel it needs to be removed at this time. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 09:30, 8 February 2012 (PST)
::::Sorry, im hella forgetful about signing posts.. anyway if its not to be removed, it would be noce for it to be at least current in some fashion. Monthly updates are not needed but its been a year. It makes the wiki look like we are not doing anything. I understand the lull in activity on the part of Chris but thats no reason for us to get complacent. In the spirit of "bring me solutions not problems" i would suggest that it be used to post happenings with the wiki. Like recently the images have been getting optimized to PNG, thats something. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:06, 8 February 2012 (PST) [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:06, 8 February 2012 (PST)
:::***This is still bothering me greatly [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 08:09, 17 February 2012 (PST)
::::::* this page still links to the main menu and has not been updated in a year. thats not current. recent events including chris's return to semi active social networking, and the lemonaid stand could be included. but it seems that the idea of actually updating a section called CURRENT events is not acceptable. that being said, im still all for removing this link all together because there is nothing here that the timeline does not cover [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 11:20, 2 July 2012 (PDT)
:::::::* Wiki events, not Chris events. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 04:44, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
::::::::*Like I said, Wikipedia treats "current events" as current events in the world, not the wiki in general. The problem is that we'd have to change the redirect every month (or quarter) to the current month page, otherwise I'd have a redundant page if we left this here.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:29, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
:::::::::*An overhaul isn't necessary. You can edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] to either remove the current events line or change "currentevents-url" to "Template:Da update" (or just redirect the [[CWCki:Current events]] page itself). [[User:Axe|Axe]] 06:27, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
::::::::::For what it's worth, even if you decide against removing the Current Events line, having a quick sidebar link to Da Update might come in handy for people who enter the site from somewhere other than the front page (e.g. after getting linked to the Duck page through an external site). That way, they wouldn't have to navigate to the front page first in order to see what's new. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 23:24, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
::::::::::*Im with um.. the guy above me who DID NOT SIGN HIS POST ! ! ! remove current events and link it to da update [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 11:54, 18 July 2012 (PDT)

Talk:Prank calls

2012-07-18T18:50:08Z

Slimz: /* Calls re-linked */

{{Not A Forum}}

==When were these recorded?==

Any way of knowing when they were recorded? Obviously, the latest possible date was when they were uploaded to YouTube, but it might be interesting to know what they knew or should've known about when they were on the phone. —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 06:02, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

*the soundboard ones fall are after the kacey and liquid phone call, but the failed attempt and the liquid bob call could fit mostly anywhere in christory. Besides that there is no way to know when these were recorded.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 20:23, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

== Well at least we gained something of value ==

Based on one of these calls, the Chandlers have one of those phones that lights up instead of rings so they're not quite as bothered with the constant calls. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:11, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

== About the pranks that should be included in this page ==
* I think the only pranks that should be placed up in these pages should be the relevant ones and the ones directed at the chandler home only, so the Mary lee walsh Cole and the unsuccessful troll screaming "julaaaaaay" video shouldn't be up in this page.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 00:57, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
:* I bet they had quite a few JULAAAAAAAY calls back in the day. Do we need to list the fails amongst the win? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 01:07, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
::Calling the Chandler's up and screaming JULAAAAAAAAY is still funny, so it merits being included *somewhere*. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:09, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
:::*Anyone for splitting the page into two distinct sections? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 01:35, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
: that might be the best if you want, but i added the bob prank calls because of his tendency to yap on, he gave some more info, not like the Michael, Cole and Mary lee Walsh calls.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 04:37, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

* If you add every single prank call using chris chan soundboards you can find in youtube, then this page will be crowded, add only prank calls made to the chandler house.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 13:11, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
:*The ones to People in the chandler household, or major figures in Chris's life (Snyder, Mary Lee Walsh) are pretty relevant. The ones like Chris calling the golden corral and Bob calling the Department of Education are stupid, and have nothing to do with Chris.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 12:07, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
::*I'm now thinking only calls that are referenced by other pages on the CWCki/have info should be put on here. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 21:37, 28 October 2010 (PDT)

== Whistling ==

Are we sure that it was the troll who was blowing the whistle on the Epic Crazy Lady soundboard call? Some people blow a whistle into the phone when they are trying to get a prank caller or a bill collector to stop bothering them. Maybe it was Snorlax.
[[User:Squirrelbait|Squirrelbait]] 16:56, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

No, the part with the whistle was a totally different prank call where the troll used a soundboard of Bob to call a niggo who blew the whistle at Bob. --[[User:Straw|Straw]] 03:37, 6 August 2010 (PDT)

==Call Bobby Chandler==

Does anyone else think that call should get it's own page? I mean, considering it reveals that Bob Chandler may be a member of the KKK, and if not at least has friends who are members, wouldn't it be considered important enough to warrant a page? [[user:Melainia|Melainia]] 14:20, 24 September 2010 (EST)
:Prank calls page is fine IMO. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:33, 24 September 2010 (PDT)
:Frankly I think it's not even worth recording. There's a good chance Bob was just saying that to try and intimidate them. Besides the two were obvious idiots who just wanted e-fame. [[User:Love Paladin|Love Paladin]] 09:15, 26 September 2010 (PDT)

==New CwC Prank Call==
Awhile ago Carlos had all fetishes down including watersports & pretty much anything that didn't sound homo to him, I think we have mirrored the profile that shows all of the fetishes he was game for but just recently i found out he removed them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkLsxL3ShI0 [[User:SurfShackTito|SurfShackTito]] 22:22, 6 November 2010 (PDT)

== Bob Okay With Jews? ==

In the latest PC Assassins call, Bob spoke about Jews and Israelis when the subject came up. He seems to be quite amicable toward [[Michael Snyder|the people]] [[Chris]] hates so much. Bob goes so far as to say they "deserve {the homeland of Israel}" Is this more of the brighter side of him, coming to light? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 18:03, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
*It may be a lesser of two evils thing with the taliban and the like being portrayed in the media.

== Transcribing ==
An entire hour and 7 minutes of the PC Assassins attention whoring and Bob being kindly and old is there for transcribing. I suppose this will be what I do on the CWCki for a while. Unless someone wants to help.
*Also I'd like to know if when transcribing I could just transcribe Chris related talk and timestamp it. There is an excess of 2 hours of Craig being a yes-man and Bob talking about old people's things. [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 09:26, 8 May 2011 (PDT)
::I don't think anyone would complain if you kept it Chris-related, both for your sake and for the sakes of potential readers. Good luck. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 10:40, 8 May 2011 (PDT)

== Where'd they go? ==

There were some other videos of the prank calls done by the PCassassins An Extended Chat With Bobby parts 1-4 (or 5 i think)...Where did they go? I only see episodes one and two... They WERE there up until the 8th of May and the 4th one in particular had some juicy Chris information (No actual Honor Roll and No actual Job in particular). Did they accidentally get deleted or what?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:39, 9 May 2011 (PDT)
: I just did some looking and it looks like the only parts of the "Episodes" from PCassassins is the first part...not the rest. Some of them (the other parts) are pretty informative about Chris's life as well as how he grew up...though some of them are solely about Bob... Shouldn't we still post them at least??? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:44, 9 May 2011 (PDT)

: The missing parts did not get deleted. We have them set to private and backed up on file, we figured too hold onto them for now until we are ready to release them. --[[User:ThePCassassins|ThePCassassins]] 06:30, 17 May 2011 (PDT)

== Parts Just Died Here ==

One channel was closed on YouTube and now this page lost about a half dozen calls. Has anyone mirrored them? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 13:01, 15 May 2011 (PDT)

==PCAssassins calls==
Problem - most of these calls were making the article REALLY long, when they could easily go in their own article. Other problem - PCASssassins are giant faggots who are clearly trolling Chris for e-fame. Solution - I made a subpage just for them. Yes, it's still a page devoted to them but it's only a subpage. If you people want to argue that they get a regular page, I'd be for that, I am concerned about how they would perceive such a page though, as I don't want drama like there was over "Sonichu: The Animated Series."--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:40, 16 May 2011 (PDT)

Were not trying to receive any E-fame as you put it. We just wanted too prove too you that a couple of outsiders can accomplish something that you could never do.
But yeah a page for us would be great for everyone too get more information on the Chandlers during this Chris dry spell.
[[User:ThePCassassins|ThePCassassins]] 06:13, 17 May 2011 (PDT)
*Harassing a dying man. You two must be really proud of what you have accomplished.--[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 09:28, 18 May 2011 (PDT)
* Yes you are trying to recieve E-fame as Champ put it, you gigantic faggots. I've explained like three times why we could easily accomplish what you do, yet you're too stubborn to admit it because you think you're epin master trolls who are totally sucking amazing never-before heard info out of Bob during a dry spell. We have ''field agents'', most of the information Bob gave you was already known by them (ex. cancer). Bob is gullible, and obviously calling him pretending to be an engineering student is going to get him to yap on over the phone. It doesn't mean you're anything special, anyone can do it. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 12:02, 18 May 2011 (PDT)
*File:1286510923112.gif
Well said you two.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 15:41, 18 May 2011 (PDT)
** No, really, take it to the forums. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 15:42, 18 May 2011 (PDT)

*Uh suck it you massive fags, your nothing more then a bunch of pathetic losers who spend all your time on this shitty site. Judging other videos because of different tactics to retrive info on a subject that everyone is interested. Well I hope you people are enjoying this site, cause in ten years you'll realise you've all wasted your lives onone person, also you mention you have agents in the field and that all the information we got out of Bob you guys already had, I call bullshit. You people are nothing more then then jealous wannabes who get angry at anyone on the outside who is able too get information out of a member of the Chandler family. Some how it seems that you people lost your way and maybe thats why you people always seem too never make any real big updates, no new Chris videos, oh wait the tom-girl photos oh wait those must be new, oh wait a second Chris's hair is so thin and that doesn't look like a wig, how old are those photos? A year maybe two? I haven't seen a site run by such faggots before. But you know what i'm glad our calls aren't on this shitty site at least then I know we accomplished something and thats not being connected too you assholes. Also your all fags. [[User:ThePCAssassins|ThePCAssassins]]
*Not mad at all.[[User:SurfShackTito|SurfShackTito]] 05:14, 21 May 2011 (PDT)
**I'm not sure you guys realise that that isn't the PC Assassins. Just to clarify, it isn't. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 07:20, 21 May 2011 (PDT)

== Calls re-linked ==

I edited the page changing the links of certain calls to play the original uploads. User:Freecell undid this, commenting "Going through calls and changing working links to your own reuploads so you can get more views? That's not really ok."

First of all, I'm not TheGoldenPhone2. Second of all, those ARE TheGoldenPhone2's calls. They are not "re"-uploads. User RachmaninovDESU's video even claims it is not his call.

It's hardly a big deal, but I'm a stickler for giving credit where it's due.
[[User:AndarielHalo|AndarielHalo]] 20:56, 27 August 2011 (PDT)
:Fair enough, my fault. I guess I didn't give it enough thought. I'll remedy this now. Sorry about that. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 21:27, 27 August 2011 (PDT)
::Oh wait, it seems you already did. Anyway, I'll try to keep this in mind in case something like this happens again. Thanks. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 21:29, 27 August 2011 (PDT)

:::S'okay. At some point I'll have to make transcript of the new call I added [[User:AndarielHalo|AndarielHalo]] 08:35, 28 August 2011 (PDT)
:::::There are still calls that are NOT working, have been made private, or have been removed by the user. Could one of you fine bitches with all the faggy links please fix that shit .. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 11:56, 10 April 2012 (PDT)
::::: OK it seems like none of you fine bitches with all the faggy links care to fix this shit. I cant believe that there is only ONE copy of these damn calls online but i guess if thats the case then the videos should be removed or commented out until better linls can be found.. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 11:50, 18 July 2012 (PDT)

CWCki talk:Current events

2012-07-02T18:20:26Z

Slimz: as i continue to bitch about the same thing

CWCki:General

2012-07-02T15:54:25Z

Slimz:

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{{Community Portal}}

*[[CWCki:General/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
*[[CWCki:General/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
*[[CWCki:General/Archive 3|Archive 3]]

For discussion that doesn't fit into the other community pages - though do keep it related to the CWCki.

=="No shit is too minor"==

This is something that's been on my mind for a while and I feel like getting it off my chest now. It's about our motto "No shit is too minor." I get this impression that people think it means "We have a duty to document every facet of Chris, we must know everything about Chris, if Chris takes a shit we need to document it and keep track of his bowel movements." I think that isn't the case.

First off, "no shit is too minor" is something someone just came up with one day and I thought it suited us well. It's not something I came up with or anything, but I've liked it because what I've always interpreted it as is "We shouldn't overlook things about Chris." At times, people can be like "Oh, we don't need to worry about this recording, we've looked over it before," that is that they will overlook material about Chris or not think it's important. I think the "no shit is too minor" in that as wiki editors we should dig through the content we do have and try and find new insights about Chris in it. For instance, when I first watched the [[The 24th Wedding Anniversary Special]] I didn't think much of it. I was like "Okay, Chris is rambling on and doing Animal Crossing shit, who cares?" But then I watched it another day and noticed that he talks a lot about his parents and how they met, that's some pretty significant information. It doesn't mean we have to analyze his choice of font in the video, or we need to do a Freudian analysis of his music choices, but merely we shouldn't overlook things.

Anyways, I could go on but what I think we need to do is not to overlook the little things, that's how I've interpreted, rather than "Chris has a bowel movement, we need to document it and we need to know Chris's regularity" which is how I see a lot of people interpret it as.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:25, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*I agree completely, and encourage you to consider getting a new motto. I think the current one brings out people's spergy side. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:28, 27 January 2012 (PST)
** as i have said before, once you start leaving out details its like cancer. its all or nothing eventually. Either include everything because you never know what is or is going to be important (Elvis died on the crapper), or just dont include anything. if chris is irregular, well that sounds unimportant, but down the road that simple detail could help someone figure out something else. Logic requires detail for extrapolation of facts. more detail, more extrapolation, more facts...[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 07:03, 27 January 2012 (PST)
** a possible new motto would be "Just the facts" or "The devil is in the details"
**No, cancer would be filling up the CWCki with too many pointless details. Champ's rant was all about how we DON'T need to write about every little trivial aspect of Chris's life. It's fine to leave stupid shit out, and that's what we're trying to do. And, that is also why we are having this discussion about a possible new motto. That said, I think you have some good ideas for possible alternate mottos, and I highly encourage Champ if he's reading this to consider them. Also, you have to sign all your posts, not just your first one. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:55, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*** Define what is 'stupid' clearly... What facts should be left out? COnjecture, that should be left out.. Opinion, that should be left out... But NO FACT no matter HOW MINISCULE should ever be left out, lest it be gone forever. The simple things, the details, the minutia, thats where the truth of Chris really lies...[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 09:12, 7 February 2012 (PST)

== Linking quotes ==

Ok so i was reading the PS3 article over and notices that chris is quoted saying 'I'd throw away the cure for autism' where the word autism is linked to the autism page. well on the Pixelated_PS3 page (where the video lives that the quote comes from) autism is is also linked to the word autism.. ok here is the issue, when quoting chris on a page other then the one that has the original video, should we link the quote to that page directly? i mean we seem to link all kinds of stuff to all kinds of stuff but a barely see any quotes linked back to the source of the quote. Just asking what the protocol is for that?
*We usually do link back the quotes in the article text around them or in the quote description. I don't think that there is any set in stone policy about it, but I can't really think of any instance where a quote's source has not been linked in the article somewhere. If you can though, by all means show me where. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:55, 27 January 2012 (PST)
* if i run across it i will rectify it, the source is linked in the citation on the page i was talking about so there is a link, Chris is obviously quoted often so im sure there are quotes on pages with no back links. i guess creating citations for quotes is the best way to go.

== Megaupload and Filesharing sites ==

I've noticed that in quite a few articles that include things for download the link that lead to recently shut down file serving sites have been closed. Is it a priority to fix these? [[User:Granola|Granola]] 06:42, 13 February 2012 (PST)

== Chris an violence ==

Chris and violence have a long relationship. He has not only threatened violence, but also responded to threats of violence. He has performed tasks under the threat of violence and requested that tasks be performed with violence as an alternative..

The point here is that anger is one thing and violence is another. Chris has enough of a relationship with different areas of violence, that i believe that it deserves an article in the '''Chris and''' series.

Violence itself should not be lumped with anger. Anger is an emotion where as violence is an act (or in many cases the threat of an act) anger deals with how chris feels toward a specific situation where as violence deals with how Chris acts. im not a great christorian but i know enough to understand that ''''Chris and violence'''' is a subject that deserves a page on this wiki... [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 05:31, 9 March 2012 (PST)
*First, we already have the [[Death Threats]] article, so that kind of counts. Second, Chris is pretty much [[Power|incapable]] of violence anyway (unless he gets his hands on a gun, but why would he buy a gun when that can go into [[vidya]]?), so anger and threats are all he's going to get. While I agree that he does seem to resort to violence pretty often, I have to say that he often channels that anger into various things we already have articles on, whether it be the [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] or the death threats previously mentioned. [[User:Boriki|Boriki]] 20:42, 22 March 2012 (PDT)
** Im not entirely convinced. The article i was thinking about is not just focused on chris DOING violence, but how he perceives violence, his bigotry regarding violence, and how he reacts to threats of violence. Basically chris is a bully, a pussy and generally has no empathy.[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 05:01, 23 March 2012 (PDT)
***Sounds rather pointless to me. The Chris and series in general just seems to be a way to take potshots at Chris nowadays, but they do have their place and they do cover a lot of things that would be hard to place into other articles. [[Chris and the law]] for instance I think is a page we needed to have. It could have ''maybe'' been placed into the [[Jerkop]] article, but it would have been wildly out of place. Now Chris and Violence on the other hand is something that very easily folds into articles like [[Death Threats]] and [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]], or even [[Chris and anger]]. Really, if you want to go into Chris's perception of violence, most of what you'd come up with would be ninety percent speculation anyway. You can try to write up the article yourself, and if anything is salvageable and CWCki appropriate we could make it into a [[Chris and anger]] subsection, but it's hardly appropriate for its own article. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:38, 23 March 2012 (PDT)

== A-Logging ==

I've been thinking, what would you all think of a page covering "A-Logging", that is thinking that Chris is worse than Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot combine and deserves to be punished? I think this issue is sort of the opposite extreme of [[White knighting]] which we deal with. Now, I bring this up here because I ask - do you think we should have a formal article about it, ala the White knighting article, or perhaps we should make a policy about it to elaborate on [[CWCki:NPOV|NPOV]]? I think we get a lot of grief that we tend to foster A-Logs, that people will read the CWCki and think Chris is an awful person who has committed crimes against humanity (which really isn't the case). Or perhaps we should do both? My concern with an actual article on it is that A-Logging hasn't really impacted Chris trolling the same way white knighting has. A-Logs don't really fuck things up, they just make normal trolls look bad.

I think we should try to be more neutral towards Chris, critical yet fair, as I believe that ideally we should be presenting information about Chris as "This is what we know about Chris" rather than "Chris is x, y, z (and they're all bad things"). So, what do you all think? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:59, 29 April 2012 (PDT)
*Yes. We need an article like this. A legitimate article like the White Knight one that explains in detail just how stupid the whole idea is, and with examples of what has resulted from it. In particular, I think we should point out that A-Log managed to get his own Encyclopedia Dramatica page from doing so. That will deter this sperginess if nothing else. While we're at it, I also think that links to this page should be added into the CWCki's welcome message so that new users are directed to it, and it should get linked on the front page, at least for a little while, so that as many thirteen year old youtubers as possible see it. I also would not object to A-Logging being made a temporarily bannable offence, just so we can get rid of those that ignore it. I know the forums are already considered a hive for sperginess, but that's a reputation that does not need to be attached to actual wiki users. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:11, 1 May 2012 (PDT)

So is anyone else going to do this, or will I have to? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 02:11, 10 May 2012 (PDT)
*I'm currently hopped up on caffeine so I'll write out a rough draft, once I'm done I'll post it here and you can all edit it.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:17, 11 May 2012 (PDT)
*I've started a rough draft [[User:Champthom/Alogging|here]]. By all means edit it and comment on it.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:50, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

== Activity meter ==

I was wondering if we could setup an activity meter, kind of like the defcon or the homeland security color system. It would theoretically measure how active chris is. Just thought ot would be a nice graphic that we could update when his activity level changes. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 09:26, 30 April 2012 (PDT)
*One of the few ideas Slimz has ever had that I'm fully behind. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:12, 1 May 2012 (PDT)
** thanks, you dont have to like my ideas, but if i have them im gonna share them, worst anyone can say is "no" [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 08:51, 3 May 2012 (PDT)

== Index of terms ==

I think an index of terms that are used often would be useful.
Things like:
Solid Chris
Liquid Chris
China
Pickle
true and honest
fans
gal-pal
sweetheart

Now i know that the terms for the most part each have an article, but a single page of Chris-centric vocabulary would be nice.
thoughts [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 07:34, 9 May 2012 (PDT)

== Audio articles? ==

Someone on the CWCki Forums suggested that audio versions of articles, namely the "Chris and..." series be made so people like himself could listen to articles while he's working or driving to whatever. I suggested he post the request here, but I figure I'd help him out and post it here for him. My only concerns are 1) do you all think there is sufficient demand for audio articles (in other words, would anyone else besides this guy be interested in them?) and 2) does anyone here have a pleasant voice to read an article with?

I don't think it's a bad idea, I mean it would make Chris accessible to the blind and people who don't feel like reading articles and would rather listen to them, but it's not like it's a huge, huge priority. I'm mostly posing this here to gauge responses, namely if anyone else would be interested in audio articles.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:26, 30 June 2012 (PDT)
* there are a few problems
#This is a wiki and its always changing
#The "Chris and" series is one of the first most people read
#It would be very boring unless it was all rewritten in novel fashion

Bruce Johnson

2012-06-20T13:08:20Z

Slimz: Added screenshot

{{Stub}}
Dr. L. '''Bruce Johnson''' was the principal of the [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School]], where Chris attended fourth grade. According to the book ''101 Stunts For Principals To Inspire Student Achievement'', Johnson was a fun loving man who, once a year, would dress up as popular children's book character Captain Underpants to inspire his students to earn higher standardized test scores.<ref>http://books.google.com/books?id=vnLetsZ4l4kC&pg=PA82&lpg=PA82&dq=bruce+johnson+nathanael+greene+elementary&source=bl&ots=4U2JRHDRVQ&sig=-F7-zgcgNbl1q9yfqu6wzAefRhg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=35aLT4n0Bcjz0gGCmPndCQ&sqi=2&ved=0CDoQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=bruce%20johnson%20nathanael%20greene%20elementary&f=false</ref> According to Chris, he was a monstrous [[pedophile]] who would sexually and physically abuse the children.

In June 2012 via a [[Facebook]] message, Johnson refuted Chris's claims and said he has "serious emotional problems".

==Chris's accusations==
===Pedophilia===
Dr. Johnson was first mentioned by Chris in a [[Captain's Log, Stardate January 21st, 2009|Captain's Log video]] from 21 January 2009, where he hinted that he had uncovered "repressed memories." Chris later went into a bit more detail in [[Mumble 3]].

{{quotebox|Oh yes. Doctor Johnson of Nathanael Greene Elementary. The principal. He was a h- he was uh, the homo... that pretty much set me against... the homos and further kept me on the straight path.<ref>[[Mumble 3]]</ref>}}

In an IRC chat from around the same time, Chris had more to say about Johnson:

{{quotebox|The Principle of the Nathanel Greene [[Chris and English#Spelling|Elemetary]] School [sic], Dr. Johnson, was a [[Homo]], and when I was sent to his office; he picked me up, set me on his lap, then I would always get off his lap, because I ALWAYS HATED that; I felt bad vibes back then. Fortunately, it has never gone beyond that, and my father caught his intentions on that, and the Court Battles Started. He likely exagerates [sic], but my father knew that there were a bunch of homos within that school board, and that was why they hated me and my family, in addition to those people not understanding Autism. Anyway, from those past memories, that is why I have grown up to Rarely Associate with men, and why I DESPIE [sic] THE HOMOS the Worst.}}

===Physical abuse===
{{quotebox|...some of the teachers and principals of Nathanael Greene Elementary School… that I was attending in later years (about, uh, late 1980s, early 1990s) [inhales sharply] They abused me—they abused me by pinning me to the ground with, uh, their ha—with, uh, holding my wrists and my ankles, pinning me down to the ground and—and audio-taping my cries and shouts. But, anyway, my mother and my father, they both fought the court system, the Greene County court system, which, uh, they were not a very nice bunch of people, very not.<ref>[[Chris Chan's Public Announcement]]</ref>}}

==Reality==
Much like Chris's other claim against Nathanael Greene Elementary, like that the school wanted to commit him to a mental institution when in reality they wanted to send him to a specialized school for autistics<ref>[[autism papers]]</ref>, his claims against Bruce Johnson should also be taken with a grain of salt.

In June 2012, after being alerted of Chris's accusations via [[Facebook]], Johnson refuted the claim that he had abused students and that he was gay:

{{quotebox|Chris has serious emotional problems and what he is saying is not ture. I worked at the school for 14 years and I received many awards from the state and local people for my work. I am happily married and I have two sons.<ref>http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:LBJ.png</ref>}}

It seems very likely that Mr. Johnson was simply trying to be friendly and open towards Chris in the latter's elementary school days, and Chris, in his overly literal [[Autism|autistic]] mind, interpreted his gestures as him being gay.
[[File:LBJ.png|thumb|center|upright=2.0|alt=A Screenshot of the Facebook message|Who would you believe?]]

== Sources ==
<references/>

==See Also==
*[[Chris's education]]
*[[Nathanael Greene Elementary School]]

{{People}}
{{DEFAULTSORT:Johnson, Bruce}}
[[Category: People]]

Talk:2006

2012-06-11T19:09:19Z

Slimz: /* Unknown Person */ new section

* Check gramar and spelling.
* Blue links (done) [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 19:43, 16 February 2009 (CET)
* Kill a nigger.
* Annotations.

== The Playstation 3 ==

There's no way Chris could have purchased it in March, since it didn't even arrive in America until November 17th, 2006. You may have the right date, but the year must've been 2007. --[[User:Racer X|Racer X]] 12:53, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

== Unknown Person ==

The unknown person that Chris sent the eulogy (September) to is Anna McLerran, she uses the same screen name here http://mclerran.deviantart.com/ [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 12:09, 11 June 2012 (PDT)

Talk:Virgin with rage

2012-06-08T13:17:59Z

Slimz: /* Holy crap I had an idea */

File talk:ChrisMomsPanties.jpg

2012-06-08T13:14:49Z

Slimz:

Anyone know what this pic was for? [[User:Eamoo|Eamoo]] 03:01, 7 June 2012 (PDT)
* at was taken at request of one of his sweethearts, she told him that she thought it would be "hot"

Chris and his ego

2012-06-08T13:05:04Z

Slimz: Removed speculative verbiage and cleaned up formatting of new section

{{quote|Firstly, YOU WISH YOU WERE ME...|Chris, [[Mailbag 10#Rejected Mailbag|Mailbag 10 (Rejected)]]}}
{{quote|For every one that exalteth himself shall be humbled; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.|[[Chris and religion|Luke 14:11 (English Revised Version)]], really hitting the nail on the head}}
[[File:0858-Cwcville7.JPG|thumb|Chris's self-image.]]
'''Egotism''', out of all of [[Chris]]'s flaws, is the most important and self-destructive. It is this egotism that may one day lead to someone playing [[Kick the Autistic]] in real life.

[[Image:SchuComic0P44.jpg|thumb|'''egotism''', (noun): the belief that your pain (getting kicked out of the [[Charlottesville Fashion Square|mall]] for being creepy) trumps all others (divorce and loss of beloved wife, children and home)]]

==Origins==

Why is Chris such an egotist? In his sheltered childhood, his enabling parents taught him to shift blame for all of his troubles to other people. A sense of entitlement, again home-grown, skewed his perception of the proportionality between his [[Stress|problems]] and those of other people. Chris doesn't completely lack empathy; he isn't a sociopath, but the internal 'scale' by which he weighs the importance of himself against others tilts far in his favor. The problem was compounded by his [[autism]], making it difficult for him to understand social cues and relate normally to his peers. [[Chris_and_reality#Outside_of_the_comics|He grew up in a different world.]]

But that explains why Chris ''was'' an egotist, ''struggled with'' egotism, or ''has tendencies towards'' egotism. While Chris's childhood was less than ideal, it shouldn't have been quite so crippling. Time and experience should have helped temper his ego, but Chris's development appears to have completely stopped altogether. Chris is still an egotist because he lives in a social time capsule that has allowed him to carry on for the better part of a decade without a single life lesson. And he still lives in that time capsule because it is easy, it is comfortable, and people let him.

===The enablers===

[[Image:0063-BobAndBarbaraNewLife.jpg|thumb|Exhibit A]]

{{quote|Drunk or not, they had me. At an old age where my mother was so close to menopause and my father was a senior citizen. I was truly a miracle.|Chris, [[Mumble 3]]}}
Chris's parents are enablers ''par excellence''. There is no earthly reason why (barring unrelated catastrophes) a thirty-year-old man with autism should live at home with his parents, especially when his autism is as "high functioning" as Chris's activity and his documentation exemplify it to be. Adults with far more crippling mental health problems (from emotional disorders to mental retardation) live far more independently than Chris does, whether alone, alone with supervision, or in group homes.

For children like Chris, public school special education is generally geared toward helping the child understand how their disorder affects their lives, and what strategies they can use to minimize its impact. This is a well-documented and well-supported strategy, but it relies on "buy-in." Chris's parents clearly never bought into these strategies, because they never fostered any interest in instilling any form of independence in Chris, thus undermining the entire regimen of special education and ending up with a man-child with entitlement issues.

===Monthly tugboat===

{{Main|Chris and money}}

{{quote|My father helped me get my Social Security set up; I get more a month than I could at a job.|Chris, taking pride in being a lazy fuck.}}

Chris receives welfare from the government; a [[monthly tugboat|"monthly tugboat"]] as he calls it. Although intended for people who were unable to work, Chris continues to abuse the welfare system because he is simply unwilling to work on anything except [[mass debating]], playing [[Video games]], and [[Love Quest|stalking young women.]]

Regardless of whether Chris is abusing the welfare system, his parents are abusing it through him, or the system itself is flawed, the fact remains that the monthly tugboat that he receives is a major factor in making Chris's lifestyle—and thus his world view—sustainable.

===Blind luck and the cherry picking fallacy===

[[Image:SlamAttack.jpg|thumb|Local Boy Levels Up]]
[[Image:391-SchuPVCCArticle.jpg|thumb|left|Article in PVCC's ''Forum'', proof that some people have too much time on their hands]]
[[Image:Famewhore.jpg|thumb|McIntire Park]]

A [[GameStop Be A Star Sweepstakes|contest]] or [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes|two]] here; a [[Chris Chan in the PokéNews|two-second local TV blip]] there. The results are that outside events most people never experience have stroked Chris's already monstrous ego.

Consider that Chris has produced a ''huge'' volume of fan mail, letters-to-the-editor, [[Internet]] commentary, and other drivel. Each letter to [[Nintendo]] is a message in a bottle: most of them never return, but the one that does—on an official letterhead, and addressed to Mr. C. W. Chandler—is confirmation of his celebrity.<ref>[[An Official Sonichu Update]]</ref>

{{quotebox|Yeah...it says here that, uh, yeah...they—th—it goes on to say that:

:"Nintendo of America has some of the most devoted, enthusiastic fans of any game developer. Each week, they receive, uh, hundreds of thousands of suggestions about their games and systems. While they would love to, uh, use ideas from f—fa—from fans to develop actual products, due to the volume of the, uh, requests they receive and the resources it would take to process them, they do not accept unsolicited game or product ideas. But they are committed to being at the leading edge of game and hardware development, though, and they can be sure that they are constantly at work developing new and exciting products and game ideas."

Now, uh, here's the interesting part...where they quote about how I can actually...go further about ch—about them changing their minds and actually accepting the idea and helping me, uh, makin' it—makin' it totally real...with the video games and the TV animations and the action figures, and...officially-released—my personally-approved... medals... ''[...]'' they say that, uh, the best way to let other fans know about my idea or to generate hype about the future game I'd like to see is to post the ideas to the forums on their sites.}} 

The concept of form letters does not seem to occur to Chris, who seems to think the letter was written specifically for him. As if Chris didn't think his material was golden to begin with, he got a second nod from ''Nintendo Power'' for his epic [[Animal Crossing Documentary]], and a page in [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]]'s ''Forum'' as icing on the cake. Even before his e-fame, Chris had plenty of evidence to convince himself that he ''was'' creative, and not just a high-volume, whiny jerk that had pestered his way to acknowledgement. As he graduated from PVCC in [[2006]], his writing shows that [[Sonichu]] was, in his mind, already tested: there was just some small threshold of notoriety or connections that needed to be breached, in order to become a true media sensation.

On top of that, Chris has a huge amount of free time to inject himself into situations like the [[McIntire Park]] meetings, which allows him to cherry-pick more moments of recognition. A tongue-in-cheek acknowledgement by the local council seems cute to us, but is serious business to him. And since Chris cherry-picks only the reinforcement that he wants, his legions of [[troll]]s just add to the fire. Delusion has led him to believe that he has a legion of fans; a few hundred emails in his inbox confirm it.

==Narcissistic personality disorder==

[[Image:Narcissus.jpg|thumb|TRUE and HONEST artist's depiction]]

It's entirely possible however, that Chris suffers from [[Wikipedia:Narcissistic personality disorder|Narcissistic personality disorder]], whose diagnosis criteria detail many of the characteristics that Chris exhibits.

{{quotebox|The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders fourth edition, DSM IV-TR, a widely used manual for diagnosing mental disorders, defines narcissistic personality disorder (in Axis II Cluster B) as:

A pervasive pattern of [[CWCville|grandiosity]] (in fantasy or behavior), [[True and Loyal Fanbase|need]] [[Love Quest|for]] [[Barbara|admiration]], and [[Autism|lack]] [[Chris and remorse|of]] [[Chris and death|empathy]], beginning by [[PVCC|early adulthood]] and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

1.has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., [[Art|exaggerates]] [[Honor roll|achievements]] [[CADD|and]] [[Sonichu (comic)|talents]], expects to be recognized as superior without [[China|commensurate achievements]])

2.is preoccupied with fantasies of [[Sonichu|unlimited success]], [[CWCville|power]], [[Honor roll|brilliance]], [[Chris and fashion|beauty]], or [[Sweetheart from the ground up|ideal love]]

3. believes that he or she is [[Autistic|"special"]] and [[Aspergers (CWCipedia article)|unique]] and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or [[Shigeru Miyamoto|high-status people]] (or [[Chris and the industry|institutions]])

4. requires excessive [[Fanbase|admiration]]

5. has a sense of [[Barbara|entitlement]], i.e., unreasonable expectations of [[Hanky panky|especially]] [[Honor Roll|favorable]] treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., [[Cole Smithey|takes advantage of others]] to achieve his or her [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|own ends]]

7. [[Chris and death|lacks empathy]]: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the [[Megan|feelings and needs]] [[Wallflower|of others]]

8. is [[Adam Stackhouse|often envious of others]] or believes [[JERKS|others]] are [[Kick the Autistic|envious]] of him or her

9. shows [[Mailbag|arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes]]}}

As you can see, these criteria describe Chris, right down to the sense of entitlement. Then again, many of the symptoms described match a typical diagnosis of autism. He may have both. [http://samvak.tripod.com/journal72.html Further reading is required to confirm the difference.]

==Manifestations==

Chris's egotism manifests itself in many ways.

===Unwarranted self-importance===

[[Image:Apology to Mary Lee.jpg|thumb|Very gracious.]]
{{See also|True and Loyal Fanbase}}

{{quote|I have had way over a million fans worldwide since I went online in before [[2000]].|-Chris, [[Mailbag 48]]}}

As overwhelming as Chris's unwarranted self-importance is, it's easy for the novice [[troll|observer]] to get lost in the sea of [[Sonichu]] shit and assume that he's just confident in his e-fame. "Of course," you say, "he's got a billion hits on [[YouTube]] and a thousand emails in his mailbox. He's going to think he's hot shit, like every other retard on the [[DeviantArt|internet]]."

But nothing sums up Chris's deep and abiding USI like this missive to [[Mary Lee Walsh]]:<ref>[[Mary Lee Walsh#Emails with Mary|Emails with Mary]]</ref>

{{quotebox|Mary, I've slept on it, and [[Barbara|I have realized that note-hanging is not the way to get attention]]. And I don't really want to meet with either you nor Susan, no offense. I'll tell you what, let's forget the meeting, and if you will allow my newsletter to stay in distribution, I will do all of the following:

*I will never hang notes on the wall again.
*I'll consider stopping my Silent Treatment on Susan.
*I'll consider knocking you and Susan up my [[scale of Respect]] each by 2 points (0=No Respect...10=Respect).

Please reply via E-Mail.

Christian C.}}

E-fame just adds a whole new dimension. He was a misunderstood genius before; now he's a misunderstood genius with a personal army:

{{quote|III'M. WOR-KIN'. ON IT! LET ME DO THAT STUPID VIDEO SO I CAN TELL [[True and Loyal Fanbase|E'RRYBODY, IN MY COMMAND]], TO GET EVERYTHIN'- HELP ME GET EVERYTHIN' OFF THE INTERNET!|Chris, [[THAT IS MY HOUSE]]}}

It's so bad now that when Chris meets someone new who claims not to know who he is, he seems skeptical and surprised.<ref>Exchange with the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]], [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#Meet the Pickle .2801:21:44 - 01:25:29.29|Emily Date Conversation Transcript]]</ref>

{{quote|Y'all should know me by now, but if you don't, I am Christian Weston Chandler, the original creator of Sonichu, the Electric Hedgehog Pokemon, back on March 17th, 2000.|Chris, in his [[CWC's Second Message|second YouTube video]]}}

The instant-gratification, instant-acknowledgment, and instant-attention—good or bad—that has come with his minor e-fame of the last few years has thoroughly convinced Chris that people ''do'' read everything he writes, and that his YouTube messages ''invariably'' get to his target audience.

He also describes himself as "managing the varsity team"<ref>[http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_7/Page_22]</ref> in high school, when actually he was waterboy.

===Persecution complex===

[[Image:Issue4.jpg|thumb|Saint CWC the Martyr.]]

Chris has a lot of problems, and even the ones he "takes responsibility for" are still out of his hands. His [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School|school]] was [[Kick the Autistic|mean to him]], he didn't deserve that [[Song of Christian|F in English]] or the one in [[CADD Chef|CADD]], ''and'' he doesn't deserve the 24/7 [[troll]]ing, among other things.

And if that wasn't enough, he thinks every authority figure in the land is conspiring against his [[Love Quest]]:

{{quote|Then in Mid-October, the Quote/Unquote "Dean of Student Services," Mary Lee Walsh, approached me and pulled my sign away from me and told me, "You're NOT ALLOWED TO FIND TRUE LOVE HERE." MY HEART WAS SHATTERED that very moment.|Chris, on his [[User:ChrisChanSonichu_profile#Enter_the_Wicked_Witch_of_the_Private_Villa_of_Corrupted_Citizens|Wikipedia userpage]]}}

It doesn't help that he's engaged in a quagmire of a war against the [[homo]] rumors that those DAMNED TROLLS keep spreading about him, with a second front versus the [[Chris and copyright|copyright]] violating [[Liquid Chris|thieves]].

{{quote|It's out of my control! I don't know where to go! I DUNNO KNOW WHERE TA GO!|Chris, THAT IS MY HOUSE}}

After the release of [[100 2178|May 8 video]] in which Chris blames the Greene County's school board for pretty much every misfortune in life (from being banned from [[The GAMe PLACe]], to [[Autism|being the social outcast we all know and hate]]) thereby cementing the notion that Chris will never take responsibility for his actions. The only time Chris had actually stepped up and admitted responsibility was the accidental formatting of his [[PS3]].

===Naïveté===

Chris's simple-mindedness and gullibility are legendary. Like [[George W. Bush]], he only deals in absolutes: either you're with him or you're [[trolls|against him]]. This has been very obvious in his answers to the [[Mailbag]], where he refuses to listen to any talk—even from professionals—about the similarities between [[Asperger Syndrome]] and [[autism]], denies that there are any shortcomings in his [[Sonichu (comic)|work]], and shrugs off any advice about how to improve his health or appearance, labeling anyone who suggests he has any kind of shortcoming a troll.

Chris equates [[honesty]] with divulging every last detail about his life. Nothing is too candid for Chris- getting haircuts, drinking his own [[navy]], [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|shitting his pants]], or even giving away his phone number and home address! The only thing he hasn't done with wild abandon is give away his social security number and when that happens, it probably won't be a surprise to anybody.

His gullibility is astounding. No matter how many times it's happened before, Chris is easily led around by trolls promising [[china]] or threatening [[Sonichu|his]] [[Copyright|identity]]. The earlier trolling schemes (such as [[Blanca]], [[PandaHalo]] and [[Jimmy Hill]]) got Chris to jump through hoops and exposed so much information about Chris and his personality that they had to start a [[CWCki|wiki]] to keep track of it all. Another example of Chris' gullibility is one Miss [[Jackie|Jacklyn Romy]], a 'sweetheart' Chris met earlier in 2011. Despite her obviously being a troll (proven by a mysterious leak of videos that were sent only to Jackie on [[February 2012]]), Chris has re-friended her on Facebook after blocking her the previous April. Only time would tell if we end up seeing Chris [[Cosplay|cosplaying]] or [[Cakefarts|making an ass of himself]] again in a video aimed only at Jackie. It's pretty obvious that Chris has only done this because he believes that [[Naive|he'll score with Jackie sooner or later]].

In [[2009]] and [[2010]], Chris slowly began to "learn" to distrust trolls or to keep more of his [[PSN|information]] secure. However, many of his trolls believe this is akin to putting a shock collar on an animal. Eventually, in order to stop being shocked (not because they actually understand or care) an animal will start doing as it is told.

===Hubris: the pride before the fall===

[[Image:NeitherOfUs.jpg|thumb|It's fair to say that Chris is a narcissist]]

{{quote|I'd say... I'd say I'm all around. You see, the problem is that I have too many skills that I am good at. You might say that I am a jack of all trades and a master of none.|Chris, [[Mumble 3|right about that last part]]}}
Numerous times, Chris has shown that he believes he has powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal [[slow-in-the-minds|autistics]]. In fact, this attitude has transcended self-confidence and erupted into full-blown hubris: Chris is convinced that his [[Chris and writing|writing]], [[Christian and the Hedgehog Boys|musical]] [[Guitar Hero|talents]], and [[Chris and art|art]] are not just competitive with his peers, but clearly superior.

And he doesn't just have the power to create: his is also the power to destroy. This line of thinking is exemplified by Chris's acceptance that [[Ryan Cash]] committed suicide just because he withheld ''Sonichu'' updates, and would worsen when he believed that his [[curse-ye-ha-me-ha|curse]] actually caused [[Liquid Chris]] and [[Mary Lee Walsh]] to have some sort of horror befall them.

But those are just the most insane moments of cognitive dissonance. What about the time he went into hysterics when he didn't get recognition for his art at high school graduation?

{{quote|I should have been Highly Recognized for my ARTISTIC TALENTS I showed in my Many Art Classes for the Award Ceremonies before Graduation Day. I felt crestfallen greatly from not getting recognized for any of my Talents. I EXCELLED IN MATH TOO FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!|Chris, on his [[User:ChrisChanSonichu_profile#Graduation|Wikipedia page]]}}

Or his reaction to losing the [[Adam Stackhouse|Parappa Contest]]?

{{quote|So that SWORN ON MY AUTISM, JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED TO THE SEVEN PEOPLE OF THOSE FOUR VIDEOS!!!!|Chris, on the [http://web.archive.org/web/20070830114517/http://sonichuchandler.tripod.com/cwcson.htm Sonichu Site]}}

[[Image:How chris sees himself.jpg|thumb|What Chris sees when he looks in the mirror]]

All of the above is consistent with the behavior of small children, who, isolated from the real world by a lack of comprehension and limited mobility, believe themselves to be godlike beings. This belief is gradually destroyed as the child goes to school and encounters outside authority, leading to their acknowledgment of the fact that they are, in fact, ordinary people. Of course, since Chris is not only autistic but also [[Barbara|extremely sheltered]], he still manages to cling to this belief by focusing on specific aspects of his life and constructing [[CWCville|elaborate fantasy worlds]]. This is also probably why he sees mundane [[chores]] as [[Father Call|horrific trials of strength and will]]. In psychological terms, this can be referred to as ''psychological neoteny'', which is basically the retention of juvenile traits well into physical maturity.

Also consistent with his childlike mindset is his apparent belief that he has supernatural powers. In Freudian terms, this is referred to as ''omnipotence of thought''. Basically, in the same way he does with religion, Chris cherry-picks elements of his life in order to validate his fantasy of control, which is more systematically displayed in the Sonichu comics. Taking this into consideration, it's likely that [[Magi-Chan]] is yet another Mary Sue for Chris, serving as a kind of avatar for his desire for ultimate authority. Why he felt it necessary to make [[Reginald Sneasel|yet]] another [[Sonichu (character)|character]] to fill this role is unclear, considering he's already established [[Chris-chan Sonichu|himself]] as the one true God of [[CWCville]].

Another aspect of Chris's arrogance, and again caused by his childish way of viewing [[Virginia|the world]], is visible in [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 9|a phone call]] with Alec Benson Leary, creator of [[Asperchu]]. In the call it is obvious Chris does not follow a mature procedure for developing a stance on issues. Where normally an individual will learn information about the issue and from there decide how they feel about that issue, Chris does it the other way around and decides how he feels about something, then refuses to believe, understand, or even humor any evidence to the contrary. While most people have very strong beliefs in some issues, so much so that they automatically have a prejudice against people believing differently (e.g. [[Barack Obama|politics]], [[religion]], etc.), Chris has this perspective on everything. He takes a position on matters, then finds ways to back it up and ignores all evidence for the opposing viewpoint. This is called a ''[[Wikipedia:confirmation bias|confirmation bias]]''. For example, Chris has decided [[homos]] are bad, so he selectively finds [[Leviticus|information]] that backs up his stance on the matter and ignores anything anyone will tell him about why his homophobia is bad and makes him a bad person. He will then go as far as to pretend he can [[Sonichu_10#Curing_Da_Homos|cure homosexuality]] with his own blood. Unless disliking homosexuals means he [[I'm Sorry, Dude|may not get laid]].

This is most apparent when he takes two contrary positions about a similar topic. The obvious example of this is Chris's understanding of the way [[parody]] functions. Chris will defend his right to make Sonichu to the hilt by claiming it is a parody, but he then states that Asperchu is a bad thing because it is "parody of a parody". As you can see, Chris has decided that he has every right to make Sonichu so he backs this up with statements about his right to parody existing trademarked characters, but conversely he has decided Asperchu is bad, so he supports this position by stating it is a parody of his legitimate work.

A literal example of the 'pride before the fall' would be Chris' series of [[Facebook]] posts between April and June of 2012. In [[April 2012]], Chris believed that he had utterly fooled the trolls when he made a [[Facebook#to_.40cogsdev_from_me.2C_.40CWCSonichu|series]] [[Facebook#Maniacal_Laughter_from_Who_now.3F_Oh.2C_wait.2C_It_Is_ME.21_.3E8D|of]] [[Facebook#Hey.2C_Trollies|posts]] mocking the trolls.He even went so far as to post screenshots of the CWCki forum members talking about it. Note that in several of the screenshots, Chris believed that he had uncovered a scheme to start a poster campaign about him in [[Charlottesville]]. According to his [[Facebook#To_The_Trolls|Facebook post dated 4th June, 2012,]] he had called the [[Jerkops|cops]], and basically admitted that he completely fell for it. He then recorded an [[Voicemail_greeting#4_June_2012|angry voicemail greeting]] before quickly deleting it. Compared to [[Voicemail_greeting#30_April_2012|an earlier voicemail he made]], one can clearly see how humbled he was.

===Materialism===

{{quote|I want Julie! Yeah, love is my first priority, but then- but then I want my stuff back!|Chris, caring more about his precious PSN Account and Sonichu website, more than his [[troll|sweetheart]].}}

It is clear that Chris is a materialist (a common symptom of Narcissistic Personality Disorder), buying and hoarding large amounts of crap that make him feel good about himself. He may even believe that his unhealthy amount of children's toys might attract a [[sweetheart]], when any human being would clearly see that this man is [[Naïve|delusional]]. He also doesn't seem to have a problem with getting [[money]] for sitting on his ass, claiming he can get more from his [[tugboat]] than he could at an actual job. He has absolutely no concept of money, and believes he is entitled to everything he can buy. This stems from childhood, when Snorlax would take Chris to the toy store and encourage him to talk by giving him toys if he could read their names out loud.<ref>See [[1980s#1989|1989 in Christory]]</ref> Ever since, he's believed that just by being autistic, he deserves everything he can get his grubby hands on.

This mixture of compulsive hoarding, compulsive shopping, and autism is bad news all the way. He compulsively hoards all of his toys and video games because he wants to give them to [[Crystal_Weston_Chandler_(daughter)|his daughter]] in the future. He also seems to enjoy collecting things, which may explain why Pokémon appeals to him. Chris compulsively buys everything he can on the PS3, and is more concerned with trophies than actual gameplay. Most of the games he's downloaded have never been played. But the important thing is that he ''has'' it. Hoarding items in cases other than OCD is a sign of intellectual disability in older children. He may have inherited this behavior from his parents.

===Tender misanthropy===

A "tender misanthrope" is, by definition, "someone who despises humanity in general, but is ever ready to make an exception for the ''real'' people". In other words, an egotist who pretends to be benevolent. While it's obvious that Chris is an egotist, he truly believes that he's benevolent. He is the perfect example of a tender misanthrope, screaming death threats at what he knows of humanity (seeing as the only social contact he gets is from the [[Internet]]) while also believing that he is a kind, loving person who can [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|give advice]] and [[Pedofork|act as a role model for children]].

Another part of the definition states that "a tender misanthrope feels certain of being able to love real people if only they could be found - or, failing that, [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up|to transform existing false people into idealized ''real'' people]] through social and political programs of the tender misanthrope's own making". The way that Chris treats [[homos]], seeing as he hates them all ([[Mailbag_53#Well,_that_makes_everything_better!|no matter what he says]]) and wants to turn them straight by placing them into co-ed prisons, reprogramming them into straights via concentration camps, or by creating a vaccine that "cures" homosexuality, certainly fits this description. The fact that he also generalizes trolls as homos also supports this. If that does not convince you that Chris feels he can make people into what he can emotionally attach himself to, there are also other obvious examples in his unique delivery of his intentions.

===Disregard of rules of conduct online===

{{quote|DO NOT DELETE, NOR CENSOR, MY BOMBASTIC PROTEST!!!!!!|Chris, in [[List of Christian's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica#4 September|Encyclopedia Dramatica]]}}

Chris has little regard for the rules of online communities; when he joins up on websites, he tends to do things his way. He assumes that his own niche in these websites is under his absolute control: for example, he assumed that [[Wikipedia]] would allow him to post anything on his personal user page, or that Encyclopedia Dramatica would remove material critical to him if he just asked not-so-nicely. Sites like [[deviantART]] and [[YouTube]] allow community participation; Chris simply disallowed comments, or later on, just ignored every comment he received. Chris also assumes that when other people host websites for him (in case of [[CWCipedia]]), he's given the final say on all matters. His record for getting permabanned is currently at two weeks on [[Flipnote Hatena]] when he foolishly tried to re-upload Flipnotes that had been removed for breaking the rules (without bothering to find out why they had been removed in the first place).

===Paranoia===

One of the worst things that comes out of Chris's ego is his bloated sense of paranoia. As mentioned above, Chris has taken to withholding certain information from trolls like an animal being shocked by a shock collar. However, this line of thinking has pushed Chris into believing that the entire world is out to get him. In early days, it was actually simple - [[Jerkops]] and [[Mary Lee Walsh]] were conspiring to stop him from succeeding in his [[Love Quest]]. However, after the incident with [[The Wallflower]] and the realization that there's entire webpages devoted to him, it's caused him to see things in a bigger, yet disturbing picture.

As such, Chris has decided to become a recluse, refusing to make friends with anyone unless he knew him in the real world. However, this is a double-edged sword as Chris refuses to interact with anyone in the real world as well. In the real world, if someone spotted Chris and knew him by name, even if they had heard of him from whatever remaining place is left for him to go to, he panics and runs, fearing that the person is actually a troll seeking to spread more information about him across the Internet. As well, if someone wanted to contact Chris through other means, even if that person had no idea who Chris was or what Sonichu was or anything that the trolls had done, Chris will shut them out because he doesn't know who they are and thus, has relegated them to the title of "troll".

===Surrendering Information===

If there is one thing that Chris' ego would simply not allow, it's suppressing himself from giving away too much information about himself. If he feels that bragging about something would give him a one-up against the trolls or make himself look good, he'll freely announce it for everyone to hear. The most glaring example of this is [[CWCki|this entire wiki]], which was created using a lot of information provided by Chris himself. Back in the day, Chris viewed himself as an extremely popular internet celebrity with a [[Trolls|'true and loyal fanbase']], and, as such, would divulge a lot of information about himself so people would know him better (inclusive of [[Dox|personal information]] that nobody in their right mind would give away.)

While this practise has diminished in recent times with Chris making himself scarce out of fear that trolls would have more [[Tomgirl Pictures|ammo]] to use against him, his habit of needlessly surrendering information still manages to surface. For example, when he claimed to lose his virginity, he couldn't help but announce it on his [[Facebook]] page, all the while swearing up and down that he would never divulge any details about it to the trolls. Mere weeks later, more details emerged on Facebook, leading to speculation that he actually bought a hooker (since we all know the [[Megan|inevitable]] [[Kacey|end]] [[Jackie|result]] of his [[Love Quest|Sweetheart Search]]), which he ended up confirming on the 1st May, (along with attending a 'Mythbusters' tour, something which wasn't even brought up but still revealed anyway,) all the while claiming to remain button-lipped on the matter. Only time would tell if and when Chris finally reveals everything to silence his nay-sayers. After all, it wouldn't be the [[The Wallflower| first time]] it's happened.

===Fishing For Sympathy===

In many conversations with Chris, there have been quite a few instances where he would outright fish for sympathy, in the hopes that people would take pity on him and, in so doing, make him feel better about himself. One such example is [[Father Call]], where Chris constantly talks about the "trials and tribulations" in his life to an unimpressed [[Matthew Devoria]], from whom he was trying to seek approval to date his daughter ''(note that said "trials and tribulations" amounted to housework and being teased on the internet.)'' In his [[Jackie_E-mails_23|later E-mail exchanges]] with [[Jackie]], Chris is quick to paint himself as a misunderstood victim whenever Jackie rips him a new one over issues such as his habit of [[Lie|lying]], [[Chris and Hypocrisy|being a hypocrite]] and even being inconsiderate towards her. Even in recent times, he has not cut out this habit, his [[Facebook]] entries blame his trolls for making his life a living hell, one in particular lamenting that nobody cares about him except for his own mother.

The attention he gets from his mother, [[Barbara Chandler]], and his friend, [[Anna McLerran]] is textbook mollycoddling at best. Chris has spent his entire life being catered to by his parents ''(notably well past the point of social acceptance)'', to the point where he depends on them to bail him out of the [[Money#Credit_cards|numerous]] [[The_Game_Place|messes]] he gets himself into. It comes as no surprise, then, that this, combined with his being [[Autism|autistic]], has poisoned Chris' mind into thinking that this is how everybody should treat him, by default. And if people don't see things his way, he'll be more than happy to point out the [[Kick the Autistic|heavy burdens he faces daily]], almost as if he expects them to instantly take back their mean, mean words and feel sorry for him.

==War against the ego==

One of the main forces opposing Chris's ego are the [[white knight]]s. These [[slow-in-the-minds|misguided souls]] have attempted to get Chris to understand that what he's doing is ridiculous and that he needs to grow up. Instead, he brushed them all aside, assuring himself that he was [[Honest Content|TRUE and HONEST]], and could do no wrong. One of the more popular white knights, [[Vivian Gee]], became a troll when she couldn't get through to Chris.

When asked to get [[Chris and psychology|real, psychiatric help]], Chris has said that his church counselor, [[Rocky Shoemaker]], is enough for him, and that she could do so much more than someone with ''an actual degree in that field.'' He seems to believe that because her title includes the word "counselor," she is every bit as qualified as a real doctor (the fact that most pastoral counselors see people for free probably helps as well, since Chris would never spend part of his precious monthly tugboat on something useful when there are [[video games]] to buy).

There were even some instances where it seemed that the trolls had made a breakthrough by [[Heart level|breaking Chris]], only for him to get right back up again and continue with his antics. An example of this would be [[Kacey]], who led Chris on for a while until she dropped the bombshell that she was going to marry [[Liquid Chris]], but not before having her father point out [[Father Call|every single thing that is wrong with Chris.]] A normal person would have been utterly devastated by this turn of events, and some would even use the experience to better themselves. Chris, on the other hand, perked right up when he [[Red_Letter_CWC_Certified_Day|obtained a letter 'validating' Sonichu]], forgetting about Kacey in mere days, just like she had predicted.

==Examples of Chris's ego in the real world and in the comic==

[[Image:SchuComic8P68.jpg|thumb|250px|[[Jiggliami]] sums it up nicely]]

{{Main|Examples of Chris's Ego}}

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==References==
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It's from there's something about mary, the fat retard who searches for his baseball in front of a high school. --[[User:Dankechu|Dankechu]] 03:58, 29 January 2011 (PST)

Fuck you --[[User:Dankechu|Dankechu]] 04:36, 30 January 2011 (PST)

==wtf==

you need to calm the fuck down and find something else to do with your time. CWCki - serious business. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 02:32, 6 February 2011 (PST)

== Hey buddy ==

You seem to really care a lot about banning people. Does this make you feel powerful? Does it give you a rush? Just wonderin'. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 05:54, 8 February 2011 (PST)
: Just wonderin' but do you even LOOK at who he bans? It's usually for the best because it's normally someone who vandalized stuff or was being a totally jackass. Sorry if I'm butting into an issue I'm not suppose to be a part of, but this is just how I see it. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 06:20, 8 February 2011 (PST)
:This is not about who he bans, it's more the spergy satisfaction he seems to get out of it. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 06:23, 8 February 2011 (PST)
:Now, I'm not criticizing your work or anything, I know you do shit that no one else wants to do, but let me put it this way: your overall style comes over as banhappy. It might be that because I've only read certain posts by you my opinion is somehow colored, or something, but I guess having a 300 word text on your userpage about exactly who you're going to ban isn't helping for one. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 09:55, 8 February 2011 (PST)
:To me you're still the Hitler of CwCki admins. Go enjoy your thousand year reich. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 10:40, 10 February 2011 (PST)
:You and Megan should get together, so that you can spend more time on hanky panky and less time on BANNING PEOPLE! [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 15:04, 10 February 2011 (PST)

== Dudleystephen ==

This guy just joined and is advertising a workout product on his userpage. Just giving you a heads-up.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 21:21, 16 February 2011 (PST)
:Well, that's somewhat embarrassing. I guess I need to learn not to do this when I just wake up. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 03:27, 17 February 2011 (PST)

== Captions ==

Nice work on the captions, Abuelita finally got around to adding them. Keep up the good work.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 14:42, 17 February 2011 (PST)
:Thanks. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 14:43, 17 February 2011 (PST)

thanks dude--[[User:CorinaLives|CorinaLives]] 08:25, 23 February 2011 (PST)

== the newly leaked Kacey call ==
The call I posted a transcript of is real, but I appreciate your doubts, it means you're doing your job. This is mainly here because I wanted to make sure that I had down the format. Way back when, this phone call (before Kacey and CWC first met) and another (after Kacey and CWC) were leaked on /cwc/. This was a long time ago and I was just waiting for them to leak so I wrote up the transcripts. To tell the truth, they both seem to be long lost someplace on my main computer, but luckily they're still on another one I use frequently. Its been far too long and I was looking for someone to help leak them on the wiki, that person is you I guess, because I'm not sure the best way to integrate these 2 calls. Sometime tomorrow I'll get the calls up on line and the transcript to the second call, if you want, you can move them where they need to go. [[User:FourPLUStwo|FourPLUStwo]] 23:00, 28 February 2011 (PST)

==Just a quick question==
I noticed something. When I'm logged in the userbox subcategories are there, but when I'm not logged in there not there. Is there a reason for this? Its not a ''big deal'', but I just want to make sure the subcategories are viewable to all users, and not just me.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 13:17, 3 March 2011 (PST)

==RE: Sign Posts==
I had already figured out how to do so. Thanks
--[[User:Miryag1|Diavna ----- diavna@gmail.com]] 14:07, 6 March 2011 (PST)

== the beavis and butthead thing ==

Well I kinda understand that, but from what I've seen around the site, a lot of articles make, what can mostly just be called specualtion, about Chris' psyche, in regards to different situations and elements of his life. Just thought I was doing the same thing. --[[User:NeoShadow|NeoShadow]] 13:58, 18 April 2011 (PDT)

:*Well, maybe the CWCki should have like a template thing that says ''WARNING: This section contains heavy speculation that hasn't really been confirmed to be true'' or something like that. I mean, let's say Chris is really done. He finally crashed into slumber for the last time. Then what? I mean, if all the CWCki does is archive only the facts of what we know, then that's a goal that can be easily reached and then what? the CWCki stays unchanged until someone finally stops paying for the domain? Speculation on Chris and why he does the things he does is what drives the CWC community, so I doubt that eliminating speculation from the biggest CWC related site would be a good idea. Then again, I guess I could just write my own speculation things on pages under my own userpage. i dunno. just think about it. glad i could help. --[[User:NeoShadow|NeoShadow]] 04:40, 19 April 2011 (PDT)
::* The CWCki doesn't have a template like that because if we allowed unchecked speculation the servers wouldn't be able to handle the strain or something. Not to mention the article quality would drop. Putting speculation on your own userpage is a terrible idea and an excelent way to piss people off, by the way. That's how Offshore got started, people started sperging on their userpages and it gave the CWCki latency issues. There is a difference between sperging and offering acceptable speculation, look at what was left in the Beavis and Butthead article and use that as a good example. --MoarLurk
:::*Not Trying to barge in, but I think the Speculation Warning would be a fantastic idea. --[[User:Ctahu|Ctahu]] 19:00, 19 April 2011 (PDT)

== Get with me ==

My contact info is on my user page, it's nothing bad, just have an idea to bounce off you.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:21, 22 April 2011 (PDT)

== Hey ==
Thanks for cleaning up the rewrites. Also the welcome message. I added in some references. Hope it's a bit better now. --[[User:Obligatory|Obligatory]] 10:41, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

==Freecell old boy==
I have an exciting proposition for you. I understand you're busy but get back to me when you get a chance.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:26, 11 May 2011 (PDT)

== Hey (again) ==
Obligatory here. (I'm retarded with passwords). I saw the awful state of the scattered articles about the clusterfuck of retconned characters in Sonichu 10 and tried to merge them into a single page. This is my attempt [[User:Old meme/Sandbox|here]]. Before I post anything I'd like you to look over it and make sure it's appropriate first, and feel free to edit it or put in tags if you feel references are needed anywhere. I'd like it to be in perfect condition before I put the page up. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 09:16, 13 May 2011 (PDT)

Sure do. The merged page is a combination of the [[Basement Rosechus]] page, [[Chaotic Combo (Asperchu)]] and [[Mitch Sonichu]]. I've only really removed stuff which was just a repeat of stuff already in the page, or else shit jokes and irreleveant information. I removed a section about fan works based on the Asper-Combo for instance, because that's all stupid bullshit, and a few random jabs at Chris made for no reason. I think the main meat of the articles are still there, but I might have missed some things. I added a lot of my own material as well, a lot of it being rewritten versions of things in the original articles. Check it all out and send me a message back if you think it's alright and after you've made any changes you feel are appropriate. Sorry I won't be on again for a while. I'm only on here two or three days a week, so you may have to wait a bit for me to respond again. Thanks again man. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 13:08, 13 May 2011 (PDT)

Hey, thanks for checking it over and everything. I just updated the image of Mitch and I added another image to put the quote that was in paranthesis (sorry if that's mispelt). Now everything's done I'm gonna ask Champ to have a look at it. Cya soon. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:12, 17 May 2011 (PDT)

How do I do that????????

==Thanks bro==
For picking up the slack with the revisions, I thought I got all of them but I missed a few. Thanks man.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:45, 26 May 2011 (PDT)

Its Armageddon, I forgot to sign my post... I use mediawiki so much I shouldn't though
[[User:New user|New user]] 21:36, 27 May 2011 (PDT)

== About the PSN comment ==
(ps2crazed)

I dont have any proof, it may have happened a few days ago, but I was only informed of the PSN comment change today, chris had not signed in for 6 days before today, so I don't assume he could have made the change then. I have no proof, feel free to remove the post if you wish to do so, do you know where the video of the day went? Someone must have removed it or something.

Oh sorry, but yes, I have no proof on the exact date of the psn change, but he hadnt been on for 6 days before, so I assumed it was that day.

[[User:Ps2crazed|Ps2crazed]] 15:27, 7 June 2011 (PDT)

== Freecell, I choose you! ==
I rewrote the [[Samurai Pizza Bots]] article [[User:Old meme/Sandbox|here]] as a merging of it and the articles on both [[Prower]] and [[Armoraxe]]. I thought I'd want to show it to you again to make sure it's all up to scratch before I bother Champ about submitting it. You think you can work your magic on this one too? Oh, and if you happen to notice that the images of Crackder, Punislav and the S.A.V.s are missing from the gallery of plagiarism, you don't need to add those back in. I intentionally took those out because I plan to make an equivalent article for the quote unquote "evil" transformers too. And yes, I do have no life. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 15:11, 21 June 2011 (PDT)
*And now the article for the evil robots is done too. That felt a lot faster than the first one. It's a merging of [[Decepti-Clone]], [[Crackder]] and [[Jerkop Punislav]] and is located [[User:Old meme/Sandbox 2|here]]. On the off chance you don't die of boredom, message me once you've made your corrections. Thanks in advance for this man. Very much appreciated. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 19:37, 21 June 2011 (PDT)
*'KAY MAN. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 03:49, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

==Yo mang==
Hit me up on AIM, I'll be on in the evenings the rest of the week.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:51, 14 July 2011 (PDT)

== Youdonttellmewhattodo ==

This guy's been blanking pages. Ban his ass.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 20:10, 17 July 2011 (PDT)

I would say that this could be Chris, but I don't think he has computer access. He can access the internet via the PS3, though.--[[User:Rena-kun|others > ;0; ;0; ;0; ^-^ < Rena-kun (me)]] 20:21, 17 July 2011 (PDT)

*This has been happening alot recently. I'm still not a pro at wiki, so how does one undo a revision, other than copying and pasting EVERYTHING that used to be there? I'm on cwcki alot so I can help out if I see it happening [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 09:21, 18 July 2011 (PDT)
** I had to fix some of the ones this guy vandalized. You just go to the revision history and click the (undo) at the end of this revision in the list. [[User:CompyRex|CompyRex]] 14:29, 18 July 2011 (PDT)

*I think you have to be an admin to do that.--[[User:Rena-kun|others > ;0; ;0; ;0; ^-^ < Rena-kun (me)]] 13:12, 18 July 2011 (PDT)

::CompyRex is right. A jerkop or greater also gets the rollback button, which is like the undo button but it reverts edits in a single click, rather than having to go through the edit page. Everyone has the undo button, though.[http://awesomescreenshot.com/0c4gujc89] [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 15:33, 18 July 2011 (PDT)

== Contact me ==

We need to speak. I'll be free tomorrow (26 July) from 7:30 a.m. - noon or after 8 p.m. EST. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:06, 25 July 2011 (PDT)

== Screenshot works I hope... ==

I did it...I think. [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Screen_shot_2011-08-10_at_10.01.05_PM.png] The "title" is really long and weird, hope you can change it if necessary because I have no idea how.... Feel free to censor anything that needs to be censored. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:15, 10 August 2011 (PDT)

== Not to be a nuisance, but... ==

How did you get music to play on your userpage?--[[User:ThatPianoGuy|ThatPianoGuy]] 15:00, 13 August 2011 (PDT)

== Deletion ==

I believe this[[File:Klingon.jpg|thumb]] needs to be burnt at the stake. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 17:38, 22 August 2011 (PDT)
:Unfortunately, there's nothing I can do about it because the image isn't "vandalism" per se. I'm sure Champ will oblige when he sees it. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 17:43, 22 August 2011 (PDT)
::I cant figure out what its supposed to be a drawing of... Do you know? Also... I saw that this guy vandelized the main page... What did he do exactly? Sorry im just curious... --[[User:Cupcake299|Cupcake299]] 17:51, 22 August 2011 (PDT)
:::[http://www.sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&curid=4207&diff=145221&oldid=143723 Nothing much.] Also, no idea. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 18:02, 22 August 2011 (PDT)

== Thanks for the quick reply ==

I appreciate your fast reply, and welcoming to the cwc wiki! I might not be able to contribute a whole lot, as i'm typing from an ipod touch and it's a nightmare to correct typos or do much of anything, but i'll try to use any constructive ideas to help out.

[[User:Martymoinklers|Martymoinklers]] 18:43, 31 August 2011 (PDT)

== Dude ==

If someone pulls shit like Hitlar did, you can reasonably ban them, albeit for a short period of time. Just don't abuse it, because frankly I don't feel like monitoring stupid shit like that.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:53, 3 September 2011 (PDT)

== Work is vanishing again. ==

I did a good few hours transcripting Kacey call 14 and for some reason It logged me out and when I pressed save it told me that only users, admins and chris (lol) could edit this page and it deleted all my work again (why the fuck does it do that anyway?) I tryed pressing back which brought me back to the edit screen which still had all my work deleted...

Is the anyway I can retrieve my work?
Im guessing no, but just in case...
-[[User:HitIar|HitIar "wunderbar!"]] 08:40, 4 September 2011 (PDT)

== hey man, I can you please bring my page back up? ==

Id like to be put under trolls. so people know I hate that fat bastard chris. I know i fucked up badly on it, can you correct it...im kinda busy working on ways to keep him off the web.
edit: oh...thanks man!

== I haz a sad... ==

You deleted my comment. Sad face. :(
- LORDCOCKWORTHINGTON

Edit:
Thank you sir, I shall do that from now on.
[[User:LORDCOCKWORTHINGTON|LORDCOCKWORTHINGTON]] 16:01, 15 October 2011 (PDT)

== Mighty fine work, Lou ==

I saw what you did with the Sonic the Hedgehog page, Christ almighty, that was a mess before you fixed it. Keep up the good work.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:44, 22 October 2011 (PDT)
:I don't do as much as I used to, but when I come across articles like that one I just can't help myself. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 09:36, 22 October 2011 (PDT)

== Yo ==

Hi, been following Chris since '08 but decided I wanted to help out.

Can you point me in the direction of anything that needs doing?

I'd do some editing but I'm kinda new to all this and don't want to shit up any pages.

[[User:Ulterior]] 04:10 28 Oct 2011

== it's over 9000 ==

meow comeon thats not vandalism, it was a page siting references to the very popular meme "It's over 9000" i saw that it had occurred a few times and wanted that fact documented.

Kinda hoping that the theme would catch on and we future interactions moew chris would keep it in mind. until over 9000 was actually over 9000 meow. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Slimz|Slimz]] ([[User talk:Slimz|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Slimz|contribs]]) 

== The forums ==

I think I might have deleted you on accident, I was fiddling around with making lists of users but I think I deleted you in the process. In any case, if you can't log back in, sign up again and I'll make you an admin again. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 20 November 2011 (PST)

== Signing your comments ==

Dude, you gotta sign your comments, it's four tildas (~) in a row, no idea what's going on with this "unsigned comment" bullshit. I expect more from jerkops man, you're totally killing me here.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:59, 29 November 2011 (PST)

== sorry ==

I was lerking and it looked legit --[[User:HeticBrangs|HeticBrangs]] 00:00, 30 January 2012 (PST)

what I said about Kendrick james kingrey being a troll is not bullshit though, i only stated he tried to say that he was as great as clyde cash but instead just a casual troll who wanted to cause damage to chris and become anonymous. Im currently finding more info on him

== Please acknowledge what you have said. ==

''"On a similar note, leaving things open for the reader to interpret is important. That's why articles don't outright insult Chris, even when he's clearly wrong. It may just be me, but I feel that calling 'her' "twisted" or using words like "interrogating" is biased, even if it is correct. So that's why I did that."''

I think [[Fail|this article]] sums up what the CWCki thinks about people insulting, or drawing their own conclusions about Chris. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 11:24, 3 March 2012 (PST)
:I'd say [[Help:A_Quick_Guide_to_CWCki#Try_to_aim_for_NPOV|this one]] does. I've tried to fix up the Fail article a couple times now. Not every article lives up to expectations. Maybe that I wasn't able to fix the Fail article makes me guilty of tu quoque, but I don't think that the existence of a bad article justifies the behavior that made it bad in the first place. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 12:01, 3 March 2012 (PST)

== been a long time ==

Ok so i was ban months ago from the message board. and then i tried a few times to get around the ban, and i was re-ban. I could have spoofed my IP and done it again but i decided to behave. I have been a contributor here on the wiki for a while now and i would love to be able to post on the boards again. is it possible that you or champ could lift that ban?[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 09:58, 16 May 2012 (PDT)(look i even signed my post)
:I guess you should ask Champ. I'm not the guy who banned you, after all. Sorry about the delayed reply, I was studying for an exam. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 05:01, 17 May 2012 (PDT)
*No. Besides, you started your own message board, isn't that good enough for you? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:54, 18 May 2012 (PDT)
**i abandon that months ago. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 11:32, 21 May 2012 (PDT)

==Removing an Account==

Hey. I'm not sure who to go to to help out with this but I'd like to have all my User contributions rolled back and purged from whatever records you keep. Whether this means permanently banning me or otherwise, I'm not worried. See, I'm over the Sonichu thing and kind of don't want my username associated with it. It's somewhat embarrassing. (Is it possible to just change my username so in that it appears in the history of the wiki as somebody else? I'm convinced there's bots and shit to do this, but I don't know). [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 23:58, 18 May 2012 (PDT)
:I'm effectively just a regular user who can ban vandals. I honestly wouldn't know anything about that. I'd imagine Anonymax could get a bot to change all your talk page posts to say something else, and your account could be deleted, but I can't do either of those things. I'm sure Champ or Anonymax would be able to help more. Sorry that all I can do is redirect you. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 01:35, 19 May 2012 (PDT)
*Heyo, I looked into this but I'm afraid there's not much I can do. I've tried asking Cogs to install a Rename user extension but she's concerned that adding more extensions to MediaWiki will make it less stable (which is why he used to go down all the time). Best I can do for you is delete your user page. If it's any consolation, you have a pretty generic user name and googling it mostly comes up with the definition of "Nullity" which is an actual term. I totally sympathize with you, I've thought about getting my username changed but like I said, not much we can do. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:13, 20 May 2012 (PDT)
:*I forgot to mention that the only way to totally purge your name from the databases would be to manually delete it but [[User:Canine|Canine]] has told me before that it's easy to fuck things up that way and it wouldn't be hard to screw up the entire CWCki in the process. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:18, 20 May 2012 (PDT)

User talk:Freecell

2012-05-16T16:58:16Z

Slimz: /* been a long time */ new section

User talk:Anonymax

2012-05-14T15:12:09Z

Slimz: /* Its been a long time */ new section

You've been busy already - good job. Keep it up. --[[User:Blunderscore|Blunderscore]] 13:36, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
:* Thanks for fixing the typos in Mumble 3! Sometimes my memory fails me. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:04, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

== Re:User Template Categories ==

That sounds like a good idea. Should we start moving pages, then? '''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' 03:18, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
* Hmm, now that you mention it, I tried moving the weeaboo category to change its capitalization but I didn't see the "move" tab.

:An awards/standard userboxes split sounds good. It'll keep the Awards category from being cluttered. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' 03:36, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

* Got it. I'd delete them right now, but since I'm only supposed to delete vandalism I don't want to accidentally abuse my Jerkop powers. Maybe you should ask one of the higher ups to do it? '''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' 05:11, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

==Re: New Shirt Icons==

Okay. I've been using MS Paint all this time, but I just downloaded GIMP (it seems to be a lot more user-friendly than I remembered). How many have you fixed so far? I can fix the rest if there are any left to be done. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 01:57, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
*No, I've got it. Thanks for offering, though. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 02:04, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
** I hope you do ZThe Joker shirt justice seeing as it actually is one of his best known shirts for raging now.--[[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 21:55, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

== About the welcome template... ==
I saw your post on YawningSquirtleRedux's talk page and I understand your reasoning, but wouldn't it be more convenient to to just use the template rather than all the text itself? I mean, thats what the template is for isn't it? It saves file size and and can actually be just typed out, rather than having to copy paste it in from somewhere. Plus it makes the talk pages easier to navigate around without all that text there. I don't know about you, but to me, using the template seems it'd be the easier option. And i'm still not sure what'd be so bad about the user talk pages changing when the template is edited. Wouldn't that just mean they'd have the up to date version of the welcome? Besides, how often would we even need to change the template. It looks fine to me as it is. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:52, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

== Hey, buddy ==

[[Template:Zoroastrian|You forgot a userbox.]] [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 19:26, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

== Ham ==

I'm amazed - nay, ASTOUNDED - that we have a template for that. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|manwithoutabody]], 21:40, 03 June 2010

== My Page ==
Thanks for cleaning up the userboxes. I kind of got the feeling I had done it wrong, but was too tired to mess around with it any more.--[[User:Star Platinum|Star Platinum]] 04:57, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

== Uh, question. ==

I recently saw in my talk page's history something about you not wanting me to reinvent the wheel?
May I ask what that was about?
 [[User:DonnieDarko|DonnieDarko]] 05:10, 4 June 2010 (UTC)DonnieDarko

== whitespace issues ==

Thank you so much for fixing the whitespace issues for the troll userboxes. I was wondering what was causing them. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' 19:44, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Your Jerkop application ==

In case you get this before you see my message in IRC, get in touch with me, I'd like to talk to you. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 14:10, 11 September 2010 (PDT)

== re:Large Rollback ==

Ah, thank you! I'll be sure to remember that. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' 13:26, 12 September 2010 (PDT)

== Talk pages ==

The point of talk pages is to... TALK. It doesn't have to have a standard or anything. Right...? --[[User:Tommy-Vercetti|Tommy-Vercetti]] 06:51, 14 September 2010 (PDT)

== I have a few words for you: ==

You especially, need to get off your high horse.

Funny how everyone on this wiki criticizes Chris for being full of himself, how ironic since it's common from the editors here too. I'm through editing this shit wikipedia. You editors are just as pathetic as Chris. Fuck you. --[[User:Tommy-Vercetti|Tommy-Vercetti]] 20:44, 17 September 2010 (PDT)

== Thanks for trying ==

Unfortunately none of those suit my needs, thanks for trying though. --[[User:Ashki|Ashki]]

== Hey, idiot ==

Thanks for destroying my work: http://www.cogsdev.org/w/index.php?title=Vivian_Gee_E-mails_2&action=historysubmit&diff=115313&oldid=115312 --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 15:40, 23 September 2010 (PDT)

== Work 1 section a time ==

Just like as I do. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 15:46, 23 September 2010 (PDT)

== It's for future ==

Use the sections, there won't be conflicts of edits with someone else (probably). --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 15:51, 23 September 2010 (PDT)

==WTF==
I didnt "re-add crap" I removed the names of the 2 tards on the call. Check the version difference.
[[User:Dkd|Dkd]] 09:15, 24 September 2010 (PDT)

== Video icons with blank linkage, etc ==

Hiya. I edited a few of the "subject" and "style" [[Template:Video icon key|video icons]] that weren't pointing to links (i.e. they just went to file:image.blah and also were missing alt text), and changed one in particular ("Reason" under "style" pointed to the page for "Fail"; I changed it to "Chris and hypocrisy" since I figured there were plenty of examples and links for CWC's failures). Is there currently or will there be a desire to edit the icons in "shirt" and "other" similarly? If so, I'm willing to help, though not sure how people would want that done. There are only a few linked shirts so far, typically ones that are iconic of certain traits or events (e.g. the Pokemon shirt, the muscle bra). Others could be linked along the same way, like the "Rollin and Trollin" video for the "Trollin Style" outfit, or if something is ubiquitous enough it can just point to Chris's fashion page. The icons in the "other" category could link in the same way but I don't know if video types are categorized any further than the [[List of Videos]], nevermind that I'm not sure what qualifies as "live" or "directfeed".

Anyhow, I've always thought the video icons on the CWCiki are a neat touch. The shirts are all great. I'd only really change the "Rumors" icon because I always thought it was an old-fashioned weighing scale instead of a warning sign. Let me know if I can help. [[Image:Horse3.gif|Horsehorsehorse]] [[User talk:Horsehorsehorse|Talktalktalk]] 18:29, 30 September 2010 (PDT)

== Sorry ==

I was just trying to clear out some of the improper information and Clyde was jumping down my throat for no good reason, so yeah. --[[User:Ashki|Ashki]] 20:47, 1 October 2010 (PDT)
:* Honestly though, I can tell where I'm not wanted, so I might as well take my leave. --[[User:Ashki|Ashki]] 20:48, 1 October 2010 (PDT)
:::Hmm. Arguing against Clyde is a bit like tying your shoelaces up before entering a Mosque - a waste of time. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 20:52, 1 October 2010 (PDT)
::::Still, you might want to reign some control over him, there was absolutely '''no''' reason for him to jump down my throat for making a simple mistake, it's as simple as that. --[[User:Ashki|Ashki]] 00:10, 2 October 2010 (PDT)
:::::I don't think it was your simple mistake that did it, my friend. Although maybe you caught me a bad time. (ur still dumb lol) [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 00:43, 2 October 2010 (PDT)

==New article==
I just made an article titled Chris and Cosplay, can you look it over and tell me if I did anything bad?--[[User:Lylelash|Lylelash]] 11:31, 11 October 2010 (PDT)

== Re: Duck censorship ==

We did in for the Chris and Sex article. It's the article for the damn protagonist of the comics, an obviously important page, people shouldn't have to look at Chris's penis unless they know what they're getting into. --[[User:DStecks|DStecks]] 16:05, 20 October 2010 (PDT)

==Re: Whatever==

The issue with that is that we can say he fails at all sorts of things like "[[Song of Christian|Making a crowd noise]]" and validly put them into the article. I honestly think your example is a good one in that it is something he can't do, but the problem is that it's not something he regularly fails at. About a month ago, I went through the article and trimmed out stuff like that, purely because the article needed trimming and nobody else was doing it. If we start putting in examples of all of his individual failures, we'll have to put all of them back in, and the article will go back to the way it was before unless we limit it in some other way.

I think there comes a point at which we should put less emphasis on including every detail and more emphasis on making it humanly possible to read the article, and the Fail article has always been on the brink of this point. If you think that the article should be taken in a different direction, I honestly don't have an issue with that, but you'll have your work cut out for you.

Oh and also, there's already "Exercise" listed, but that's not as significant. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 11:09, 6 November 2010 (PDT)
* solution: delete the fail article because it sucks. the cwcki is a testament to chris's failure. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 11:12, 6 November 2010 (PDT)

== It's good to have you back man ==

TSIA.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:03, 8 August 2011 (PDT)
Medical hiatus did me good =) --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 18:54, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

==Sorry about that==

Sickness has kept me off-site for a while and I'm rusty. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 15:27, 9 August 2011 (PDT)
:It's cool - go get some sleep =) --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 15:27, 9 August 2011 (PDT)

== Thanks. ==

Nah that was an earlier edit I did this morning. I'll just have to do it all over again. I'll try useing that notpad thing you showed me, and if the "keep me logged in" box wasnt ticked before, it is now. -[[User:HitIar|HitIar "wunderbar!"]] 09:19, 4 September 2011 (PDT)

== Thanks a lot for guiding me through! ==

Ohai Anonymax, thanks for taking the time to hold my hand a bit through my first few edits as well as an encouraging message on my discussion page. I read that you were a 'WoWfag' too so if you want to talk about either the [[autism|autistic]] manchild or said internet addiction: Feel free to add the same username on skype =)
{{clear}}
[[User:Nelithy|Nelithy]] 14:38, 20 September 2011 (PDT)

== Weasel words ==

I don't understand how "passed away" is pandering around saying "died." I was always under the impression that it has exactly the same negative effect on the person discovering that someone died, but is more formal and polite. --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 19:35, 20 September 2011 (PDT)

== Order of Sonichu ==

Since you've been doing a hell of a fine job lately, especially getting bots to do stuff people normally wouldn't do, I feel that you deserve the Order of Sonichu. Keep up the good work, man.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:34, 21 September 2011 (PDT)

== All right. ==

I'll remember that for next time. --[[User:R3trogay|R3trogay]] 03:13, 3 October 2011 (PDT)

== WelcomeBot ==

I noticed you made a bot that welcomes new users. Now I for one welcome our wiki bot overlords, but to be devil's advocate, are you familiar with the arguments against it? I bring this up because I know this is something that's [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Perennial_proposals#Use_a_bot_to_welcome_new_users|brought up]] on Wikipedia but the opt against it, for the reasons they outline. I think they have a point, as a bot would end up welcoming vandals and it's a bit cold, so I just wonder if you've taken these arguments into consideration.

If you do believe we should keep the bot, I think the Welcome template needs updating then. There's a bit in there something along the lines of "or you can ask me on my user page" where it would be the user page of whoever was doing the welcoming and new users might try to ask WelcomeBot a question it obviously can't answer (if it can, then I applaud you for creating a sophisticated AI just for this wiki).

In any case, I applaud your ingenuity and your efforts and I hope you keep up the good work, we definitely need it.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:57, 8 October 2011 (PDT)

==I lack the wiki skills to deal with this==

There was a good suggestion on the forum about having an RSS/Atom feed set up to monitor Da Update, so that people wouldn't have to check manually all the time. I've offered a temporary solution, but I don't know enough about this (and lack the permissions) to really do anything useful about this. [http://cwcki.yuku.com/topic/719/master/1/?page=1 Can you take a look at it?] Thanks. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 09:09, 2 November 2011 (PDT)

== Chris's new edits ==

Have you seen Chris's new edits after the Michael Snyder images? I've no idea what the hell he's trying to do... No one else is mentioning this, though. --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 09:20, 8 November 2011 (PST)

== Email ==
I have what may turn out to be a very important Chris document I want to give to you, is there an email I can send it to?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 10:45, 13 November 2011 (PST)

== Not sure where to ask this ==

how do i add a template to my userpage
like JERK or #sonichu?

== little help ==

is it posible to get my slimz account unban in the forum? ill play nice.

== Anonymax old boy ==

We must speak of an idea I have (CWCki related, of course) that I think you might be able to help me with. Get in touch with me sometime in your early afternoon, which would be my morning. If I'm not in #sonichu just as canine or someone and they can summon me, or IM me on AIM.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:24, 27 December 2011 (PST)

== Done ==

Reding the guidelines and whatnot.

== oops ==

sorry, i thought that what i was doing... (guess who is still drunk fromlast night[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 06:07, 9 March 2012 (PST))

== Why is it that nobody is happy with my edits ==

I am trying to improve this place from being the soviet union

== Let's speak ==

I have an idea to run by you, get in #sonichu sometime this week, you can catch me (today) Sunday in your early afternoon (my morning) or sometime the same time this Tuesday - Friday.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:42, 6 May 2012 (PDT)

== Its been a long time ==

Ok so i was ban months ago from the message board. and then i tried a few times to get around the ban, and i was re-ban. I could have spoofed my IP and done it again but i decided to behave. I have been a contributor here on the wiki for a while now and i would love to be able to post on the boards again. is it possible that you or champ could lift that ban? [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 08:12, 14 May 2012 (PDT) (look i even signed my post)

CWCki:General

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__NEWSECTIONLINK__

{{Community Portal}}

*[[CWCki:General/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
*[[CWCki:General/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
*[[CWCki:General/Archive 3|Archive 3]]

For discussion that doesn't fit into the other community pages - though do keep it related to the CWCki.

=="No shit is too minor"==

This is something that's been on my mind for a while and I feel like getting it off my chest now. It's about our motto "No shit is too minor." I get this impression that people think it means "We have a duty to document every facet of Chris, we must know everything about Chris, if Chris takes a shit we need to document it and keep track of his bowel movements." I think that isn't the case.

First off, "no shit is too minor" is something someone just came up with one day and I thought it suited us well. It's not something I came up with or anything, but I've liked it because what I've always interpreted it as is "We shouldn't overlook things about Chris." At times, people can be like "Oh, we don't need to worry about this recording, we've looked over it before," that is that they will overlook material about Chris or not think it's important. I think the "no shit is too minor" in that as wiki editors we should dig through the content we do have and try and find new insights about Chris in it. For instance, when I first watched the [[The 24th Wedding Anniversary Special]] I didn't think much of it. I was like "Okay, Chris is rambling on and doing Animal Crossing shit, who cares?" But then I watched it another day and noticed that he talks a lot about his parents and how they met, that's some pretty significant information. It doesn't mean we have to analyze his choice of font in the video, or we need to do a Freudian analysis of his music choices, but merely we shouldn't overlook things.

Anyways, I could go on but what I think we need to do is not to overlook the little things, that's how I've interpreted, rather than "Chris has a bowel movement, we need to document it and we need to know Chris's regularity" which is how I see a lot of people interpret it as.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:25, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*I agree completely, and encourage you to consider getting a new motto. I think the current one brings out people's spergy side. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:28, 27 January 2012 (PST)
** as i have said before, once you start leaving out details its like cancer. its all or nothing eventually. Either include everything because you never know what is or is going to be important (Elvis died on the crapper), or just dont include anything. if chris is irregular, well that sounds unimportant, but down the road that simple detail could help someone figure out something else. Logic requires detail for extrapolation of facts. more detail, more extrapolation, more facts...[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 07:03, 27 January 2012 (PST)
** a possible new motto would be "Just the facts" or "The devil is in the details"
**No, cancer would be filling up the CWCki with too many pointless details. Champ's rant was all about how we DON'T need to write about every little trivial aspect of Chris's life. It's fine to leave stupid shit out, and that's what we're trying to do. And, that is also why we are having this discussion about a possible new motto. That said, I think you have some good ideas for possible alternate mottos, and I highly encourage Champ if he's reading this to consider them. Also, you have to sign all your posts, not just your first one. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:55, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*** Define what is 'stupid' clearly... What facts should be left out? COnjecture, that should be left out.. Opinion, that should be left out... But NO FACT no matter HOW MINISCULE should ever be left out, lest it be gone forever. The simple things, the details, the minutia, thats where the truth of Chris really lies...[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 09:12, 7 February 2012 (PST)

== Linking quotes ==

Ok so i was reading the PS3 article over and notices that chris is quoted saying 'I'd throw away the cure for autism' where the word autism is linked to the autism page. well on the Pixelated_PS3 page (where the video lives that the quote comes from) autism is is also linked to the word autism.. ok here is the issue, when quoting chris on a page other then the one that has the original video, should we link the quote to that page directly? i mean we seem to link all kinds of stuff to all kinds of stuff but a barely see any quotes linked back to the source of the quote. Just asking what the protocol is for that?
*We usually do link back the quotes in the article text around them or in the quote description. I don't think that there is any set in stone policy about it, but I can't really think of any instance where a quote's source has not been linked in the article somewhere. If you can though, by all means show me where. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:55, 27 January 2012 (PST)
* if i run across it i will rectify it, the source is linked in the citation on the page i was talking about so there is a link, Chris is obviously quoted often so im sure there are quotes on pages with no back links. i guess creating citations for quotes is the best way to go.

== Megaupload and Filesharing sites ==

I've noticed that in quite a few articles that include things for download the link that lead to recently shut down file serving sites have been closed. Is it a priority to fix these? [[User:Granola|Granola]] 06:42, 13 February 2012 (PST)

== Chris an violence ==

Chris and violence have a long relationship. He has not only threatened violence, but also responded to threats of violence. He has performed tasks under the threat of violence and requested that tasks be performed with violence as an alternative..

The point here is that anger is one thing and violence is another. Chris has enough of a relationship with different areas of violence, that i believe that it deserves an article in the '''Chris and''' series.

Violence itself should not be lumped with anger. Anger is an emotion where as violence is an act (or in many cases the threat of an act) anger deals with how chris feels toward a specific situation where as violence deals with how Chris acts. im not a great christorian but i know enough to understand that ''''Chris and violence'''' is a subject that deserves a page on this wiki... [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 05:31, 9 March 2012 (PST)
*First, we already have the [[Death Threats]] article, so that kind of counts. Second, Chris is pretty much [[Power|incapable]] of violence anyway (unless he gets his hands on a gun, but why would he buy a gun when that can go into [[vidya]]?), so anger and threats are all he's going to get. While I agree that he does seem to resort to violence pretty often, I have to say that he often channels that anger into various things we already have articles on, whether it be the [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] or the death threats previously mentioned. [[User:Boriki|Boriki]] 20:42, 22 March 2012 (PDT)
** Im not entirely convinced. The article i was thinking about is not just focused on chris DOING violence, but how he perceives violence, his bigotry regarding violence, and how he reacts to threats of violence. Basically chris is a bully, a pussy and generally has no empathy.[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 05:01, 23 March 2012 (PDT)
***Sounds rather pointless to me. The Chris and series in general just seems to be a way to take potshots at Chris nowadays, but they do have their place and they do cover a lot of things that would be hard to place into other articles. [[Chris and the law]] for instance I think is a page we needed to have. It could have ''maybe'' been placed into the [[Jerkop]] article, but it would have been wildly out of place. Now Chris and Violence on the other hand is something that very easily folds into articles like [[Death Threats]] and [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]], or even [[Chris and anger]]. Really, if you want to go into Chris's perception of violence, most of what you'd come up with would be ninety percent speculation anyway. You can try to write up the article yourself, and if anything is salvageable and CWCki appropriate we could make it into a [[Chris and anger]] subsection, but it's hardly appropriate for its own article. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:38, 23 March 2012 (PDT)

== A-Logging ==

I've been thinking, what would you all think of a page covering "A-Logging", that is thinking that Chris is worse than Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot combine and deserves to be punished? I think this issue is sort of the opposite extreme of [[White knighting]] which we deal with. Now, I bring this up here because I ask - do you think we should have a formal article about it, ala the White knighting article, or perhaps we should make a policy about it to elaborate on [[CWCki:NPOV|NPOV]]? I think we get a lot of grief that we tend to foster A-Logs, that people will read the CWCki and think Chris is an awful person who has committed crimes against humanity (which really isn't the case). Or perhaps we should do both? My concern with an actual article on it is that A-Logging hasn't really impacted Chris trolling the same way white knighting has. A-Logs don't really fuck things up, they just make normal trolls look bad.

I think we should try to be more neutral towards Chris, critical yet fair, as I believe that ideally we should be presenting information about Chris as "This is what we know about Chris" rather than "Chris is x, y, z (and they're all bad things"). So, what do you all think? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:59, 29 April 2012 (PDT)
*Yes. We need an article like this. A legitimate article like the White Knight one that explains in detail just how stupid the whole idea is, and with examples of what has resulted from it. In particular, I think we should point out that A-Log managed to get his own Encyclopedia Dramatica page from doing so. That will deter this sperginess if nothing else. While we're at it, I also think that links to this page should be added into the CWCki's welcome message so that new users are directed to it, and it should get linked on the front page, at least for a little while, so that as many thirteen year old youtubers as possible see it. I also would not object to A-Logging being made a temporarily bannable offence, just so we can get rid of those that ignore it. I know the forums are already considered a hive for sperginess, but that's a reputation that does not need to be attached to actual wiki users. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:11, 1 May 2012 (PDT)

== Activity meter ==

I was wondering if we could setup an activity meter, kind of like the defcon or the homeland security color system. It would theoretically measure how active chris is. Just thought ot would be a nice graphic that we could update when his activity level changes. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 09:26, 30 April 2012 (PDT)
*One of the few ideas Slimz has ever had that I'm fully behind. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:12, 1 May 2012 (PDT)
** thanks, you dont have to like my ideas, but if i have them im gonna share them, worst anyone can say is "no" [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 08:51, 3 May 2012 (PDT)

== Index of terms ==

I think an index of terms that are used often would be useful.
Things like:
Solid Chris
Liquid Chris
China
Pickle
true and honest
fans
gal-pal
sweetheart

Now i know that the terms for the most part each have an article, but a single page of Chris-centric vocabulary would be nice.
thoughts [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 07:34, 9 May 2012 (PDT)

June 2012

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Slimz: Page created

Tune in next month, something is bound to happen.

Talk:May 2012

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Slimz: /* Voicemail message */

==Voicemail message==

He changed it twice this month but i was thinking "Did those details are worth mentionning on the Cwcstory or can we forget about it and dont report every single change of voicemails.
[[User:René Duprée|René Duprée]]
*I don't think we have been documenting it mostly because we can't pinpoint exact dates he changes it. It's more like someone decides to call Chris one day and is like "Oh, looks like Chris changed his voicemail." Plus I sorta think it's filler sort of material, I don't think it's a huge, major thing people need to know about. I suppose we could if we really want to but my problem would be the lack of exactness in regards to when he actually changed his voicemail.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:21, 8 May 2012 (PDT)
:* im gonna go with the "no shit is to minor" idea, we may not know exact dates, but it has given us info in the past (like when he was sick), i see no harm in recording and posting them [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 07:30, 8 May 2012 (PDT)

Metal Gear

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<center>{{#ev:youtube|p03W5ElzdGI}}</center>
[[Image:Chrisslitsthroat.jpg|thumb|left|Chris [[Don't Mess With Me|using CQC]] on [[Clyde Cash]] while wearing the [[Chris and fashion|Red-Blue Stripe]] camoflage]]
[[Image:Torture.jpg|thumb|right|"We live in a sad age. [[YouTube]], [[PSEye]]s, [[For Julie's Eyes Only|leaked]] [[April 16 Fetish Vids|videos]]... [[1990s]] [[Internet]] had its share of [[trolls]], but at least they had no streaming video. Internet today makes things too easy."]]

Being that '''''Metal Gear Solid''''' is [[Clyde Cash|so cash]], and many veteran [[trolls]] emerged from the depths of [[4chan|/v/]] (where [[Fapcup|wanking]] to [[Wikipedia:Big Boss (Metal Gear)|Big Boss]] is mandatory), several ''MGS'' references have emerged. Even [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] has made some possibly unintentional nods to the franchise. [[Vivian Gee|Vivian]] has also proclaimed her love for [[Jason Kendrick Howell|Liquid Snake]].

==Allusions made by trolls==

[[Image:Maryleewalshpatriot.png|thumb|The picture of [[Mary Lee Walsh|Big Dean]] featured in the "Good Fan Art" article at [[CWCipedia]]]]
* [[The Miscreants]] are an obvious [[parody]] of [[Wikipedia:List of characters in the Metal Gear series#The Patriots|the Patriots]], except while the Patriots specialize in (con)trolling the world, the Miscreants' main field of interest involves manipulating and monitoring the [[saga]]s and events of a certain [[Chris|autistic manchild]].
*The Miscreants' codenames all go along the lines of, "The (x)". This is a nod to ''[[Wikipedia:Metal Gear Solid 3|Metal Gear Solid 3]]'', where one must face [[Blanca|The Pain]], [[Sarah May|The Fear]], [[Ivy|The End]], and [[Julie|The Fury]].
* "Liquid Chris" was the codename for [[CChanSonichuCWC]], noting that [[Wikipedia:List of characters in the Metal Gear series#Liquid Snake|Liquid Snake]] was Solid Snake's genetic twin and enemy who had inherited the recessive genes of their father Big Boss and was therefore led to believe himself inferior, with the irony being that Liquid Chris excelled in everything Solid Chris does.
* Chris's appearance resembles Big Boss in the fan comic "Sonichu Finale".
* [[Wild Sonichu]] was crafted into a Solid Snake lookalike for a scene in episode 7 of ''Sonichu: The Animated Series'' [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2nXgMR7jKs], where he has sex with a cardboard box before breaking into [[4-cent garbage.com]]'s HQ.
* [[Jason Kendrick Howell]] goes by the e-handle "Liquid Snake".
* Some of [[User:Lime/Clyde vs. Chris: Day by Day|Clyde's messages to Chris]] contain footage from the series.

==''MGS'' and Chris==
[[Image:Bigboss.JPG|thumb|left|Big Boss appeared in ''[[Sonichu 8]]'', but was mauled by faggotry]]
[[Image:KNOWTHEDIFFERENCE.JPG|thumb|[[Sonichu 8|It really could]]]]
*[[LittleBigPlanet#Metal Speed Solid|Metal Speed Solid]] is one of the ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]'' levels made by Chris. Yes why, it's really bad.
* Gecko and Mantis are shown as chefs in [[CWC's "It's All Coming Back To Me"]]. While physically deformed [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon|mutants]], their names are reference to the [[troll]] Gecko Mantis, who got his name from the elite bio-mechanical robot originating from ''MGS4'', and Psycho Mantis, a psychic soldier appearing in ''MGS1'' and briefly in ''MGS4''.
* [[Jason Kendrick Howell]] was portrayed similar to Big Boss, with brown hair, a headband and an eye patch. For a while, it was assumed that Chris browsed /v/ for three seconds, saw a Big Boss picture and decided it was close enough, despite Big Boss and Liquid Snake (Jason's e-alias) being radically different characters. Later, Jason revealed that Chris saw an old picture of him with an eye patch on [[Myspace]];<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9TtPNnyayY A Jason Retrospective Part 2]</ref> which makes a bit more sense, as Chris wouldn't go near any place as [[alcohol|drunky]] or [[Tobacky|smokey]] as /v/.
* Wild sneaks into the 4-cent garbage.com company headquarters, which is apparently full of empty red corridors. Chris may be making a subtle joke at ''Metal Gear Solid'''s typical bland military bases. Or, far more likely, he is too [[stress]]ed to include enemies, or details. {{clear}}

==Notes==
Christian has purchased ''Metal Gear Solid'' from the [[PSN]]; however, he most likely has not touched it because he's too busy playing ''[[Guitar Hero]]'', ''[[Brutal Legend]]'', ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]'' or ''Wheel of Fortune'' and the fact that [[Sonichu Special 4|sneaking behind enemies instead of attacking them head-on]] is too stressful for him.

==See also==
[[File:Chuhoundlogo.jpg|thumb|The [[True and Honest]] ChuHound logo]]

*[[Solid Chris]]
*[[Liquid Chris]]
*[[Solidus Chris]]
*[[The Miscreants]]

== Sources ==
<references/>

==External links==
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri5sRCd-LNs METAL LOVE SOLID 3: STRAIGHT ANGER]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdhYYH1_5SQ CWC 4 - Puns of the Patridiots]

[[Category:Video Games]]

Talk:Facebook

2012-05-04T11:41:46Z

Slimz:

==To Do==
*archive the messages on a separate page ([[Facebook messages]] works)
*maybe make a separate page to mirror Chris's Facebook account (to clarify, his Facebook page as it appeared before it was hacked - --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:20, 2 June 2009 (CEST))
*include his notes (maybe a separate page for that too, actually)

As for this page, maybe just outline the extent Chris used Facebook, highlight some of the stuff with it, etc. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:09, 1 June 2009 (CEST)

To put it bluntly; this page needs more words. Some of the messages are very funny when juxtaposed. He would rather go out with a jailbait 17 year old "party girl" (read:slut) than a empathetic single mom. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 23:44, 1 June 2009 (CEST)
* A general commentary for the current themes that pop up in Chris's [[Facebook messages]] and in his Facebook page and notes are more warranted than commentary for each and every individual e-mail.

I know that the Miyamoto Saga e-mails have a commentary of it but most of it is from Clyde (RIP) who provides a commentary on what he was saying as he lost the original sent e-mails from when he was Miyamoto.

But really, I think just a general commentary is needed and that Chris's messages are far more amusing and should speak for themselves. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:55, 2 June 2009 (CEST)

Whatever you say, hoss. Mind was a little skewed due to rage.

What to do STILL - Go through his statuses. How lonesome is this fuck going to be? evenmore.zip [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 19:59, 19 September 2010 (PDT)

==Collapsible gallery==

Oh, and can we make the gallery collapsible? I know standard wiki formatting has the gallery at the bottom, but, like you said, they speak for themselves, so a general commentary would be more aesthetically pleasing below it. Gives the reader space to grasp the fucktardedness before adding our POV. Just a suggestion.--[[User:Jump|Jump]] 04:51, 3 June 2009 (CEST)

*A collapsible gallery would be great, but can you make one? God help us that none of us can't edit unless it's basic shit like making templates (read: copy and pasting stuff from Wikipedia templates, lol), editing pages, etc. Seriously, we could use collapsible galleries in a lot of pages but no one has gotten around to it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:50, 3 June 2009 (CEST)

* Oh, damn, I assumed you were a senior wikifag. I'll see what I can do, it can't be too difficult, right? --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 03:17, 4 June 2009 (CEST)

* I am a wikifag. See [[Template:Collapsible]]. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 03:31, 5 June 2009 (CEST)

==Has Chris regained use of this profile, or is it still under troll control?==
I was under the impression he got it back, but it seems not long ago he posted a status that was pretty clearly a troll. I'm mostly an idiot so there's a good chance this was obvious somewhere long ago, but the article doesn't really address what happened to the profile after trolls hijacked it. Is that something that could be included? --[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 10:28, 2 October 2010 (PDT)

== He's still using Facebook ==

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christian-Weston-Chandler/167832525915

Might wanna update that link.

*LOOKS LEGI- Oh wait. NO IT FUCKING DOESN'T. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 19:53, 27 January 2011 (PST)
Gotta go with Freecell on this one...There is no way in hell this is Chris's facebook...though the going to the bar and bring his DS is something Chris has done before... --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:46, 27 January 2011 (PST)

*What about [http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000426003596 this one?] --[[User:Morbid Duck|Morbid Duck]] 18:43, 22 April 2011 (PDT)
# "This is my real facebook. I had to make a new one due to all these trolls HARASSING ME AND HACKING MY ACCOUNT"
# Uses an old picture everyone has
# "Proud too say I'm still a virgin :)" group
# Talking about Skyrim without a computer
Not Chris. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 07:17, 23 April 2011 (PDT)

*This just appeared on my "you might know this person" sidebar on Facebook. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002534669114 [[User:frozenblwf|Frozenblwf]]

*That one seems pretty legit, Frozenblwf. A pic no one has seen before and the profile is private (so obviously not trying to grab everyone's attention). Good find! --[[User:Elliebytes|Elliebytes]] 16:48, 5 July 2011 (PDT)

*Also, note he is wearing ear rings in both ears. Which means they are recent due to him getting his ears pierced. My money is on this being legit. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:07, 6 July 2011 (PDT)CFA

*Looks like the page has been deleted. [[User:Barachulove|Barachulove]] 03:53, 7 July 2011 (PDT)

*One of the Bobs on facebook is friends with this account, but I'm pretty sure it's not him because the photo is too old. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1801600742 [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 03:15, 13 July 2011 (PDT)

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002534669114 will take you to Chris's facebook profile that uses his typical "chrischansonichu@aol.com" email address. This is a profile picture we've never seen (or at least I don't think we have)*NOTE: It says it was added THIS monday, the 23 of January 2012, so yes, he's still using facebook. It will need a screen cap added. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:42, 25 January 2012 (PST)
*There's also a note he's published about what he wants in a girl...it's pretty hilariously chris:
**Must Meet In-Person First and Upfront (NO Online/Phone/Mail Contact Acceptable beforehand. Must be Referred to me by my Real Friend(s) or Family).

-21 to 29-years old
-Cute, Pretty, Beautiful, or HOT
-Caring, Sweet, Honest
-Education: High School Graduate and/or Better
-NOT A Smoker
-Social Drinker or non-alcoholic
-Upfront
-No STDs
-Carefree/Light-Hearted
-Moderate to Very Intelligent/Smart (Not Ditzy)
-Takative/Outgoing/Not Shy/Good Self-Esteem
-Slim to Average body type (under 170 lbs)
-Between 4 feet, 10 inches and 5 feet, 10 inches
-Brunette or Blonde hair
-B-Cup size minimum
-Clean
-Casual
-Not Crazy or Abusive
-Make-Up Optional
-Well-Informed to Expert in sex
--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:46, 25 January 2012 (PST)
: Doesn't look like Tineye or Google Reverse Image Search are turning up anything, either. Guess it is a new picture. I used to know how to pull someone's full profile picture, but I don't remember anymore. I'll see if I can find it. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 08:47, 25 January 2012 (PST)
::I was so intent on dicking around that I didn't realise that his full profile picture is readily available. Never mind. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 09:04, 25 January 2012 (PST)
: Oh my atheist god, he just doesn't get it. While the picture is arguably an improvement over the old ones, this list is... just... just... it has the Chris-essence condensed and distilled in it. It creeps me out. - [[User:LucidFox|LucidFox]] 09:05, 25 January 2012 (PST)

== Dead link ==

During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!

* http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian_Weston_Chandler/579729310
** In [[Facebook]] on 2011-09-20 22:38:31, 404 Not Found
** In [[Facebook]] on 2011-09-28 08:04:22, 404 Not Found

--[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:04, 28 September 2011 (PDT)

== Closed/Privatized ==

I can no longer find his account under chrischansonichu@aol.com; he has either closed it or listed it to private. He had a 'facebook friend' named Kim Wilson who is still listed though. Should it be mentioned in the article that as of Valentines day Chris no longer had a visible facebook page? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 09:26, 15 February 2012 (PST)

==Recent leaks==

As stated previously by the February 2012 page, some screencaps of Chris Facebook wall have been leaked, can we put it on the article or is it too early (a risk of Chris seeing them and leave the internet)--
ADDENDUM : The file name are Chfb1.png to Chfb4.png (uploaded by a user named Westbound)
[[User:René Duprée|René Duprée]] 13:02, 17 February 2012 (PST)

I doubt anyone would mind you adding them as long as they don't make it on the update right away. [[User:Westbound|Westbound]] 08:53, 23 February 2012 (PST)

== Something Fishy ==

All of the recent posts on FB seem odd
The writing seems forced and the content seems to perfect.

Im wondering if this is the act of trolls. Especially the "going back to fashion square with my sign" posts. it just seems like the work of a troll or Chris trying to be a troll. In light of the severity of the court cases and the fact that christian was on a FB hiatus that was possibly due to his lawyers direction, i am in severe doubt as to the genuineness of the recent posts. I understand that came from the TRUE and HONEST CWC account but it just seems... fishy... [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 10:26, 27 April 2012 (PDT)
*Canine has confirmed it. Cogs has confirmed it. Anna is friends with the account, and we all know that Anna and the inner circle don't agree with each other. There is no reason to doubt that this account belongs to Chris. Also, Chris's writing has always seemed forced and anything new about him is always unbelievable at first.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 11:34, 27 April 2012 (PDT)
** I don't think slimz was doubting that the account was Chris's, I think slimz was insinuating that these accounts are "100%" Chris. (Either by hack or by assistance) --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:05, 27 April 2012 (PDT)
* Chris is probably trying to goad da trollz into a mall confrontation, complete with curse-ye-ha-me-has. [[User:Eamoo|Eamoo]] 11:44, 27 April 2012 (PDT)
**I'll admit I think it's all a bit odd but then who knows what is going through Chris's mind at this stage. He seems to be viewing himself as a master troll given the screencaps of the forums and what not. Who knows what he wants. --[[User:Gytrash|Gytrash]] 07:22, 29 April 2012 (PDT)

== "Hynamin"? ==

I believe Chris may be referring to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Hyneman MythBuster Jamie Hyneman] in his most recent note. I have done a quick search of tour information and could not yield anything recent in Virgina. If someone higher on the totem pole could check into this, I think it'd be worth their while. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 20:21, 1 May 2012 (PDT)

*That or he fails at spelling "hymen." [[User:BeefCurtains|BeefCurtains]] 20:47, 2 May 2012 (PDT)
** I bet this is it http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/articles/2012/04/042512-vbi-usasef.html an excerpt
"""The USA Science & Engineering Festival will also feature leading science celebrities like Bill Nye of "Bill Nye the Science Guy." Jamie Hyneman and Adam Savage of the "MythBusters" will appear live during the finale expo. Also scheduled to appear are Jeff Lieberman from Discovery Channel’s series "Time Warp" and Apollo Robbins, who is known as the "gentleman thief," from National Geographic’s "Brain Games.""""
[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 09:03, 3 May 2012 (PDT)

== Backpage ==
Backpage is a site like Craigslist that still allows escort advertising. We could probably browse the backpage site for his area and find someone that was/looked half Cherokee (olive skin, dark hair etc) and call them to get the story (if its at all true) virginia.backpage.com i cant do it from work but maybe later today ill look into it [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 04:01, 2 May 2012 (PDT)

== Regarding the recent posts ==
Chris-chan seems mighty proud of the fact that he mislead us over a small piece of information, and he stated outright that there are more events that he may or may not be outright lying about. Does this mean we should take all his recent Facebook posts with a grain of salt? Including his claims that he got laid? [[User:The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here|The Mad Butcher Of Insert Country Here]] 12:09, 3 May 2012 (PDT)
:That's exactly the reason I was arguing that it shouldn't be written in as fact on Da Update. I personally believe that he's telling the truth about it, but stating that anything is fact just because "Chris said so" would be a great way to ruin the integrity of our articles. After the last edit war over this, I'm not going to start another (since I'm busy with exams and don't have time for it), but if you change it, I won't stop you. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 01:47, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
:*AGREED ! ! ! this could be an attempt by chris to change the facts about him online, to troll the trolls or to just create a fantasy world where he is no longer a virgin. It sounds legit but considdering there is a "friend" who "Brought them together" this could be a manipulation tactic by someone else. (a troll using chris to troll the trolls... thats priceless) [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 04:41, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

Talk:2012

2012-05-03T19:06:31Z

Slimz: /* He's back */ new section

Ok guys, even Offshore CWCki knows this page is fucking retarded. AS IN NOT EVEN THEY LAUGHED AT YOUR SHIT. Stop adding your lame jokes now guys. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 00:58, 3 January 2011 (PST)

If there was a physical CWCki Editing Guide there would be a screenshot of this "article" with DON'T DO THIS YOU FAGGOT written across it on the first page. Anybody that played a noteworthy role in the current state of the "article" should be permabanned. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 14:37, 4 January 2011 (PST)

== Quarterly month articles ==

As I was mentioning to Eamoo, perhaps it'll make sense to make quarterly articles instead of articles for each month - like January - March 2012 instead of [[January 2012]], [[February 2012]], etc. I'll leave the articles as they are now, as Chris could in theory come back and there could be a shitton of new content, but I'm not holding my breath and I'm just throwing it out there in case I forget.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:17, 16 January 2012 (PST)
* I agree. It might even be worth just returning to a timeline overview for the entire year. We could also do this for the year 2011. It´s a bit annoying to have to keep opening new pages. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 13:41, 22 April 2012 (PDT)

== Dumbass ==

ok the "Dumbass" video should be mentioned here, and here is my argument.
*The video was important enough to make it to the front page
*freecell said that he does not recall including this sort of thing but its here [[January 2012]]
*This is the punctuation of the best example of Chris failing at being a troll hunter
*the Dumbass video was directed to Chris
*If Chris directed a video at you (especially without provocation) and you reacted to it in this way, i would totally want that recorded.
*Dumbass is a great word especially when used in this way

besides that its funny as hell and [[Fatman]] deserves recognition.
[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 09:22, 17 February 2012 (PST)
:When I said that, I meant specifically the "20XX" articles. These sorts of videos just haven't ever gotten recognition in those articles. The closest thing is some stuff Megan did in the 2008 article (e.g. "March 14 - Megan asks Chris to leave her alone."), but I think this is a different situation. Chris hasn't acknowledged the video at all. It's entirely irrelevant to Chris' year. If Chris does mention it, I can see it maybe being worth putting in, but as-is, I don't think it's relevant enough to the subject material of this article to warrant a mention. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 09:33, 17 February 2012 (PST)
:: ok its your wiki.. i respectfully disagree but its not worth any more of my time. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 09:38, 17 February 2012 (PST)

== He's back ==

Ok im leaving for the day but this page needs updating.. so do it faggots ! i will handle it tomorrow if its not done tonight [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 12:06, 3 May 2012 (PDT)

Virgin with rage

2012-05-03T17:15:51Z

Slimz: fixed backpage link

{{quote|Tell me why I'm stuck as a virgin with rage Tell me why I so need a cute girl my age|[[So Need a Cute Girl]]}}

[[Image:106-FrustratedVirgin.jpg|thumb|[[Autism|WHY?!]]]]

'''Virgin with rage''' was [[Chris's]] description of himself whilst he was still a virgin. Chris claimed that when he was a virgin, his condition engendered [[stress|frustration]] and [[rage]]. It remains to be seen whether the loss of his virginity will change anything.

Chris was very self-conscious about being a virgin, and frequently brought up the subject unprompted, even in casual conversation with people he had only just met. However, after being advised by his parents that it wasn't a good idea to mention that he was a VIRGIN WITH RAGE, he stopped this practice,<ref>[[Chris-Chan_(CWCipedia)#Chris_in_Person_.28From_THEIR_Point_of_View.29]]</ref> one of the few times he has learned from his mistakes.

== Hormonal rage ==
Chris was extremely distressed about the possibility of being destined to be a virgin forever.

{{quote|Sometimes I would want to touch her shoulder or back, feel her hair or give her a hug. I hold those urges back, because I care about her. And to keep myself from flying crazily off the handle at a random time, I keep my hormones in check at least twice a week by myself.|Chris on [[Megan]], [[Story of My Current Days]]}}

Despite his claims that he was "holding back", the emails with [[Megan]] paint a different picture, describing instances of him doing exactly what he says he wouldn't, by giving her random and unwanted touches.<ref>[[Megan Emails, 2008]]</ref><ref>[[Mimms_and_Lucas_Q%26A#Chris_and_Megan]]</ref>

In another instance, Chris attempted to kiss [[Emily]] by surprise, during an unusually generous hug, however she was able to avoid it, and left unscarred.<ref>[[Emily#Kiss_fail]]</ref>

Likewise, [[Facebook]] correspondence between Chris and a young man named Joshua Alba revealed this pearl:
{{quote|I've thought of a funny message for a Valentine's Day card. On the outside, "Please Be Mine," and on the inside, "My hormones are slam-banging, and I do not have a woman to put them in."

I am not a sex freak; I'm just lonesome and sometimes horny.|Chris, [[Facebook messages]], 10 January 2010<ref>[[Facebook_messages#Other]]</ref>}}

==References by Chris==
*"[[So Need a Cute Girl]]", a song which Chris recorded in August [[2003]], features the first known use of the term "virgin with rage."
*Chris's letter to ''Nintendo Power'' about ''[[Sprung]]'' from the spring of 2004 concludes, "So thank you, [[Nintendo]] and Ubisoft, for the dating advice that this frustrated virgin needed."
*The first issue of ''[[Sonichu's News Dash]]'' from [[2004]] featured Chris's poem "[[Saddest Heart in the World]]", where he whines repeatedly about his virginity and repeats some of the lyrics from "So Need a Cute Girl."
*According to an entry in [[CWC's_Diary#September.2C_2004|CWC's Diary]] from September [[2004]], Chris told his "Lonesome Virgin story" to a [[jerkop]] who interrupted his loitering at the mall.
*After he lost [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown]], Chris sent an angry e-mail to Sony, where he announced "YET NOW I, A FRUSTRATED HIGH-FUNCTIONALLY AUTISTIC 25-YEAR OLD VIRGIN, HAVE BEEN [[South Park|BALLZ-BROKEN]] LIKE I HAVE THROUGH A BIG CHUNK OF MY LIFE IN AMERICA'S FAVORITE GAME, "[[KICK THE AUTISTIC]]!" *[[sigh]]*"
*Likewise, his [[PSN_Blogs#4_August_2007_.E2.80.94_Adam_Stackhouse.21.21.21|PSN Blog]] update from after losing the contest includes the line "I am a FRUSTRATED, High-Functionally AUTISTIC, 25-YEAR OLD VIRGIN."
*In Chris's first video address of the post-[[Encyclopedia Dramatica|ED]] era, [[Chris Chan's Public Announcement]], he doesn't actually come out and bluntly announce that he's a virgin. [[CWC's Second Message]], however, hammers the point home. There, Chris calls himself "the innocent, still 26-year-old virgin."
*During his IRC fan chat from [[Chris's Sonichu IRC Chloe Introduction|26 October 2008]], Chris billed his fictitious new girlfriend [[Chloe]] as his "VIRGIN-TAKER."
*Chris's New Year's resolution for [[2009]], announced on [[IRC (02 January 2009)|IRC]]: "Lose my Virginity with a Woman." Like most people's New Year's resolutions, he failed to follow through.
*While molesting his blow-up doll in the [[I am devoted to My Sweetest Ivy]] video from 17 [[April 2009]], Chris says, "Ivy, I promise you, I promise you my undying love and devotion, I promise you my heart, my soul, even my virginity..."
*Chris's [[User:ChrisChanSonichu profile|Wikipedia profile]] from [[May 2009]] includes multiple references to his virginity.
*In the [[CWC Trollin More]] video from 19 [[July 2009]], Chris announced that he was "still a virgin," retracting one of the more obvious lies in the [[Rollin' and Trollin']] video.
*At the end of [[CCWC's Final Warning to the Second CWC]], from 9 [[August 2009]], Chris sums up his achievements in life (including his [[Julie|trip to Ohio]]) and says that "the—only thing—mark that's not been checked yet for a good life is the virgin-breaker."
*One of Chris's posts on the [[Adult Swim posts|Adult Swim forums]] was signed "Lonely Virgin in Virginia, searching for a Sweetheart-Soulmate."
*In the [[Common_Questions#15_January_2010|Common Questions]] from 15 [[January 2010]], a correspondent asked Chris why he was so fixated on sex. He answered, "Oh, I don't know, how about being a Frustrated Virgin?!"
*Chris's [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|plea for sex to Damian Antaria]], uploaded 14 [[March 2010]], features his standard whine about being "a 28-year-old high-functioning autistic virgin."

==No longer a virgin (no word on the rage)==
On 12 [[April 2012]] a leaked [[Facebook]] message showed that Chris has been bragging about losing his virginity recently. There is some evidence in the post that, (if it is true, considering Chris' [[Lie|track record]]), it may have been a hired prostitute, given that she compared him to the last guy she was with, told him a [[Duck|blatant lie]] to make him feel good about himself and the most telling of all, Chris saying that his eventual 'Sweetheart-to-be' will find out about it, meaning that this was a [[Fuck Quest|one night stand]].

Further evidence that the girl was a hooker was provided by Chris on 1 [[May 2012|May]] when he wrote in a [[Facebook#Hey, Trollies|Facebook note]] that his virgin breaker can be found "somewhere on the backpage[http://www.backpage.com]", a website known for featuring sex service ads.<ref>[http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/19/opinion/kristof-not-quite-a-teen-yet-sold-for-sex.html?_r=1]</ref>

Since prostitution and solicitation of prostitution are illegal in Virginia,<ref>[http://prostitution.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=767]</ref> Chris is either [[Lie|lying]] or [[Chris and the law|has committed yet another crime.]]

[[File:Virginbreaker.png]]

== Sources ==
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== See also ==
* [[Chris and anger]]
* [[Chris and sex]]

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Talk:Trolls

2012-05-03T16:38:53Z

Slimz: /* Chris the troll */ new section

== To do ==
*List of all known individuals who have trolled CWC (name & bio)
*Troll websites (ED, 4chan, Jimmy Hill's sonichu site, etc)
*Minor trolls of little significance or that have little known info should be merged into this article.
*Should be in Alphabetical order. --[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]] 01:17, 8 March 2009 (CET)

Instead of just having "see main article", it wouldn't hurt to have like a brief summary that highlights what the troll has done to Chris and/or their relationship with Chris. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:41, 9 June 2009 (CEST)

==A suggested guideline for troll notability==

If Chris has personally acknowledged the trolls, then they should be listed. For instance, because Chris said "BILLY MAYS IS THE MAYOR OF CWCVILLE!", that warrants BILLY MAYS on the list. Obviously, there are some notable exceptions I think should stay - Cogsdev, since she did make the site; Arjen, because he did provide a repository of Chris's videos (which has managed to freak Chris out, allegedly at least); and CEO, because Chris has discovered Krapple.

I think this should minimize namefaggotry. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:35, 23 May 2009 (CEST)

:Agreed. I wonder if the admin of /cwc/ is as notable as CEO to? Kidding --[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]] 09:15, 22 June 2009 (CEST)

:Is CEO really notable at all? He's the webmaster of course, but for the most part he just lurks. I think Van Krause (admin) should be in his place. Also, do we have enough [http://888chan.org/i/res/135304.html info] for Geneva's own page, or do we just say fuck him like with Fagmaster? He seems to be pretty scared of being outed. --[[User:Whoreos n' Milf|Whoreos n' Milf]] 23:34, 1 September 2009 (CEST)

::Although I'm flattered, CEO is still indeed notable. If it wasn't for him and his chan, /cwc/ prolly wouldn't even exist. As such, he does belong on the list. If someone wants to put me on there though, I'm fine with it I guess. ^^; --[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]] 09:36, 11 September 2009 (CEST)

Considering notability, perhaps the following should be included since they've been acknowledged by Chris: GeckoMantis, Champthom, CrassCrab, & spasticnerfbag. (all were present in the wedding comic as Gecko & Mantis, Crass & Champ, & Spas, respectively.) Chris also did a "shoutout" to one of the aformentioned trolls in the 'diaper' pics. --[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]] 07:27, 25 August 2009 (CEST)
*By this logic, we'd have to include trolls who haven't done shit who have gotten shot outs in other videos would be listed (Stalyn in the Q&A video, RachmannDesu and some other PVCCers in Rollin' and Trollin', etc.). In those cases, it's not so much these people trolled Chris directly, per say, but rather it was more like the ideas of the people involved. Pretty much the wedding comic is one big in joke with every new character being a troll without Chris realizing it, but the fact isn't public because otherwise faggots from ED will want our heads for doing a circle jerk sort of trolling there. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:00, 2 September 2009 (CEST)
:*In other words, notable trolls are trolls who have trolled Chris directly and Chris has acknowledged it, not merely people Chris have mentioned in passing in videos. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:02, 2 September 2009 (CEST)

== Great job on the picture, but... ==

...Bob counts as a troll? I guess. You know you suck when you get trolled by your own family.-TheREALClydeCash
* Whoever made the pic wins an internet. --[[User:DStecks|DStecks]] 17:34, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

== Needs to be updated ,a lot ==

Lacks Vivian for example. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 16:32, 21 November 2009 (CET)
*I wouldn't exactly say she's a troll, considering she doesn't directly go after Chris and has always tried to be nice to him. But yeah, there are trolls that need to be added. Like Jack Thaddeus, Samantha the Cat(head of the miscreants before having her teeth fall out and being replaced by clyde).--[[User:CrassCrab|The Great Wizard CrassCrab, Lord of the Seven Realm and Master of the Archane Black Arts of the Eleventh Trans-Dimensional Vortex]] 17:23, 21 November 2009 (CET)
:*I definitely agree about Jack but there's nothing about Samantha that is publicly known nor that Chris has ever mentioned. Please refer to the troll notability guidelines, Crass. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:58, 21 November 2009 (CET)
==Devil Trolls==
An article was created for the Devil Trolls that Chris fights in the latest comic page. I merged the two. Maybe we could expand on that section as a kind of "comic portrayal" section. Could include some other stuff too. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:13, 13 December 2009 (CET)

* Question about the devil trolls in Sonichu 10. Immediately after fighting them, Chris implicitly reveals the whole scene was a shout-out to the game Fairytale Fights (then goes on to plug Brutal Legend). Does anyone know if the Devil Trolls' design was plagiarised from said game? Because if so we ought to mention that in their section. [[User:Xentrilus|Xentrilus]] 18:35, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

== Talk:PodMonkey ==
[''archived for the PodMonkey article merge'' --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 00:39, 9 January 2010 (UTC)]

I have no clue who this guy is, but I'm getting some good vibes. Fill me in and I'll do what I can. [[User:Jump|Jump]] 04:24, 21 June 2009 (CEST)
*He's doing good things. He's a celebrity on #sonichu, among other things, mostly because he knows Chris IRL and is friends with the jerkops at Fashion Square Mall. More will be revealed in good time. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:48, 21 June 2009 (CEST)

M'kay, I'm a patience guy. I'll just brace for epic. [[User:Jump|Jump]] 04:51, 22 June 2009 (CEST)

===Merge===
PodMonkey is out of the scene for now and most of what he's done won't come to light because of obvious concerns, so what do you all think of just moving this to a subsection of the [[Trolls]] article? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:18, 2 September 2009 (CEST)
*I agree. It should be moved. --[[User:BabyGotBack|BabyGotBack]] 03:49, 27 December 2009 (CET)

== How does Chris think the trolls think? ==

This article could benefit from discussion on how Chris thinks the trolls views themselves and their lives. I'd ramble on and on about it, but there's very little material on this subject.

When I read [[Jack Thaddeus E-mails]] and other stuff where Chris pretends he's a troll, I kept thinking how Chris portrays the trolls in the comics. In the last email to Jack, "Sam" complains that trolls are having "more and more pathetic days ourselves in our individual damn lives". In fiction side, then, before getting faceraped, Jason rambles on about how he's a troll and he's basically just an evil villain who does this shit because he's a troll. So he really seems to think every single troll is just doing this because they're evil and have empty lives.

In short, it'd be interesting to compare two things: Why Chris thinks he's being trolled (trolls are lifeless, evil, cruel vermin who hate him because he's better than them), and why trolls ''actually'' troll him (to force Chris to get a clue, and since that's doomed to fail, provide a nearly-endless source of entertainment - or "lulz" as the modern vernacular goes). --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 17:27, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
He's part right. Trolls troll because it's fun. If Chris ignored them, they'd leave. It's his hilarious reactions that draw the trolls to him. [[User:Sarge|Sarge]] 9:12 PM, 12 April 2010 EST.

== Was [[Joshua Martinez]] an elite troll? ==

I don't know, I wasn't even aroundwhen this was happening. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 19:42, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
*Martinez has two accomplishments of note: Lori Lopez and Vanessa Hudgens. From what I understand, he also inadvertently pushed back the Ivy Saga because of his independent trolling efforts. If anything, he did more than Sydney (as in succeeded, albeit sloppily), so he should probably be on this page. --[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 01:14, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

== "What a world..." quote ==

A relatively minor point compared to the rest of the article, but according to the [[Sonichu_8_Official_Videobook#Episode_18|Videobooks]], Bubbles is "thinking" the quote. It's a bit confusing in the art, but Chris says the quote using Bubbles's voice. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 09:11, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

== Theories ==

This page needs some sort of summary of Chris's theory of trolls, perhaps a subsection of the Motivation heading, discussing how trolls are part of some conspiracy involving Megan, Michael Synder, and the Green County School Board.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 13:33, 20 August 2010 (PDT)

== Roach the baby-sitter ==

Would she qualify as a pre-ED troll (and therefore the first troll)? [[User:Blusko|Blusko]] 13:18, 6 September 2010 (PDT)

== Dead link ==

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--[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 19:32, 30 October 2011 (PDT)

== Chris the troll ==

Ok now that chris is officially a troll, or at least a failed troll, should he be included on this page? should we have a page that discusses his failed trolling attempts (you know there will be more)? [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 09:38, 3 May 2012 (PDT)

Talk:Facebook

2012-05-03T16:03:47Z

Slimz: /* "Hynamin"? */

CWCki:General

2012-05-03T15:51:56Z

Slimz: /* Activity meter */

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For discussion that doesn't fit into the other community pages - though do keep it related to the CWCki.

=="No shit is too minor"==

This is something that's been on my mind for a while and I feel like getting it off my chest now. It's about our motto "No shit is too minor." I get this impression that people think it means "We have a duty to document every facet of Chris, we must know everything about Chris, if Chris takes a shit we need to document it and keep track of his bowel movements." I think that isn't the case.

First off, "no shit is too minor" is something someone just came up with one day and I thought it suited us well. It's not something I came up with or anything, but I've liked it because what I've always interpreted it as is "We shouldn't overlook things about Chris." At times, people can be like "Oh, we don't need to worry about this recording, we've looked over it before," that is that they will overlook material about Chris or not think it's important. I think the "no shit is too minor" in that as wiki editors we should dig through the content we do have and try and find new insights about Chris in it. For instance, when I first watched the [[The 24th Wedding Anniversary Special]] I didn't think much of it. I was like "Okay, Chris is rambling on and doing Animal Crossing shit, who cares?" But then I watched it another day and noticed that he talks a lot about his parents and how they met, that's some pretty significant information. It doesn't mean we have to analyze his choice of font in the video, or we need to do a Freudian analysis of his music choices, but merely we shouldn't overlook things.

Anyways, I could go on but what I think we need to do is not to overlook the little things, that's how I've interpreted, rather than "Chris has a bowel movement, we need to document it and we need to know Chris's regularity" which is how I see a lot of people interpret it as.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:25, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*I agree completely, and encourage you to consider getting a new motto. I think the current one brings out people's spergy side. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:28, 27 January 2012 (PST)
** as i have said before, once you start leaving out details its like cancer. its all or nothing eventually. Either include everything because you never know what is or is going to be important (Elvis died on the crapper), or just dont include anything. if chris is irregular, well that sounds unimportant, but down the road that simple detail could help someone figure out something else. Logic requires detail for extrapolation of facts. more detail, more extrapolation, more facts...[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 07:03, 27 January 2012 (PST)
** a possible new motto would be "Just the facts" or "The devil is in the details"
**No, cancer would be filling up the CWCki with too many pointless details. Champ's rant was all about how we DON'T need to write about every little trivial aspect of Chris's life. It's fine to leave stupid shit out, and that's what we're trying to do. And, that is also why we are having this discussion about a possible new motto. That said, I think you have some good ideas for possible alternate mottos, and I highly encourage Champ if he's reading this to consider them. Also, you have to sign all your posts, not just your first one. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:55, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*** Define what is 'stupid' clearly... What facts should be left out? COnjecture, that should be left out.. Opinion, that should be left out... But NO FACT no matter HOW MINISCULE should ever be left out, lest it be gone forever. The simple things, the details, the minutia, thats where the truth of Chris really lies...[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 09:12, 7 February 2012 (PST)

== Linking quotes ==

Ok so i was reading the PS3 article over and notices that chris is quoted saying 'I'd throw away the cure for autism' where the word autism is linked to the autism page. well on the Pixelated_PS3 page (where the video lives that the quote comes from) autism is is also linked to the word autism.. ok here is the issue, when quoting chris on a page other then the one that has the original video, should we link the quote to that page directly? i mean we seem to link all kinds of stuff to all kinds of stuff but a barely see any quotes linked back to the source of the quote. Just asking what the protocol is for that?
*We usually do link back the quotes in the article text around them or in the quote description. I don't think that there is any set in stone policy about it, but I can't really think of any instance where a quote's source has not been linked in the article somewhere. If you can though, by all means show me where. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:55, 27 January 2012 (PST)
* if i run across it i will rectify it, the source is linked in the citation on the page i was talking about so there is a link, Chris is obviously quoted often so im sure there are quotes on pages with no back links. i guess creating citations for quotes is the best way to go.

== Megaupload and Filesharing sites ==

I've noticed that in quite a few articles that include things for download the link that lead to recently shut down file serving sites have been closed. Is it a priority to fix these? [[User:Granola|Granola]] 06:42, 13 February 2012 (PST)

== Chris an violence ==

Chris and violence have a long relationship. He has not only threatened violence, but also responded to threats of violence. He has performed tasks under the threat of violence and requested that tasks be performed with violence as an alternative..

The point here is that anger is one thing and violence is another. Chris has enough of a relationship with different areas of violence, that i believe that it deserves an article in the '''Chris and''' series.

Violence itself should not be lumped with anger. Anger is an emotion where as violence is an act (or in many cases the threat of an act) anger deals with how chris feels toward a specific situation where as violence deals with how Chris acts. im not a great christorian but i know enough to understand that ''''Chris and violence'''' is a subject that deserves a page on this wiki... [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 05:31, 9 March 2012 (PST)
*First, we already have the [[Death Threats]] article, so that kind of counts. Second, Chris is pretty much [[Power|incapable]] of violence anyway (unless he gets his hands on a gun, but why would he buy a gun when that can go into [[vidya]]?), so anger and threats are all he's going to get. While I agree that he does seem to resort to violence pretty often, I have to say that he often channels that anger into various things we already have articles on, whether it be the [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] or the death threats previously mentioned. [[User:Boriki|Boriki]] 20:42, 22 March 2012 (PDT)
** Im not entirely convinced. The article i was thinking about is not just focused on chris DOING violence, but how he perceives violence, his bigotry regarding violence, and how he reacts to threats of violence. Basically chris is a bully, a pussy and generally has no empathy.[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 05:01, 23 March 2012 (PDT)
***Sounds rather pointless to me. The Chris and series in general just seems to be a way to take potshots at Chris nowadays, but they do have their place and they do cover a lot of things that would be hard to place into other articles. [[Chris and the law]] for instance I think is a page we needed to have. It could have ''maybe'' been placed into the [[Jerkop]] article, but it would have been wildly out of place. Now Chris and Violence on the other hand is something that very easily folds into articles like [[Death Threats]] and [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]], or even [[Chris and anger]]. Really, if you want to go into Chris's perception of violence, most of what you'd come up with would be ninety percent speculation anyway. You can try to write up the article yourself, and if anything is salvageable and CWCki appropriate we could make it into a [[Chris and anger]] subsection, but it's hardly appropriate for its own article. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:38, 23 March 2012 (PDT)

== A-Logging ==

I've been thinking, what would you all think of a page covering "A-Logging", that is thinking that Chris is worse than Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot combine and deserves to be punished? I think this issue is sort of the opposite extreme of [[White knighting]] which we deal with. Now, I bring this up here because I ask - do you think we should have a formal article about it, ala the White knighting article, or perhaps we should make a policy about it to elaborate on [[CWCki:NPOV|NPOV]]? I think we get a lot of grief that we tend to foster A-Logs, that people will read the CWCki and think Chris is an awful person who has committed crimes against humanity (which really isn't the case). Or perhaps we should do both? My concern with an actual article on it is that A-Logging hasn't really impacted Chris trolling the same way white knighting has. A-Logs don't really fuck things up, they just make normal trolls look bad.

I think we should try to be more neutral towards Chris, critical yet fair, as I believe that ideally we should be presenting information about Chris as "This is what we know about Chris" rather than "Chris is x, y, z (and they're all bad things"). So, what do you all think? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:59, 29 April 2012 (PDT)
*Yes. We need an article like this. A legitimate article like the White Knight one that explains in detail just how stupid the whole idea is, and with examples of what has resulted from it. In particular, I think we should point out that A-Log managed to get his own Encyclopedia Dramatica page from doing so. That will deter this sperginess if nothing else. While we're at it, I also think that links to this page should be added into the CWCki's welcome message so that new users are directed to it, and it should get linked on the front page, at least for a little while, so that as many thirteen year old youtubers as possible see it. I also would not object to A-Logging being made a temporarily bannable offence, just so we can get rid of those that ignore it. I know the forums are already considered a hive for sperginess, but that's a reputation that does not need to be attached to actual wiki users. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:11, 1 May 2012 (PDT)

== Activity meter ==

I was wondering if we could setup an activity meter, kind of like the defcon or the homeland security color system. It would theoretically measure how active chris is. Just thought ot would be a nice graphic that we could update when his activity level changes. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 09:26, 30 April 2012 (PDT)
*One of the few ideas Slimz has ever had that I'm fully behind. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:12, 1 May 2012 (PDT)
** thanks, you dont have to like my ideas, but if i have them im gonna share them, worst anyone can say is "no" [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 08:51, 3 May 2012 (PDT)

Voicemail greeting

2012-05-03T15:48:51Z

Slimz: Added new message, someone please post a recording as well.

[[Chris]]'s '''voicemail greeting''' is something which many [[trolls]] have experienced when attempting to call Chris. The greetings have been changed numerous times and their content has varied greatly over time, ranging from straightforward to downright bizarre. This article is not an exhaustive record of the greetings Chris has used (as he may have changed it and no one bothered to tell us), but is nonetheless a good collection of messages spanning a period of almost 3 years.

== Examples of Chris's voicemail greeting ==
=== [[Car Pranks|2 August 2009]] ===
'''Chris:''' Hello. You have reached the cellphone of Christian Weston Chandler. I'm sorry I could not answer right now, but please leave your name message, telephone number, and I'll get back to you as soon as possible. And I was advised heavily by my [[Bob Chandler|publicist]] and my [[Jay Z|lawyers]] to not do any interviews or a documentaries whatsoever. Even in- Because I got so much reputation-and at stake-at the current time. Also if this is a, uh, [[Troll]] trying to troll me back, do you think how much [[Minor CWC-isms|trollin' stupid]]? I'm not [[Naive|trollin' stupid]], you're [[Slow-in-the-minds|trollin' stupid]]. Have a good day.
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY4q2yk3pgk| Listen here!]

=== [[March 2011|1 March 2011]] ===
'''Chris:''' I'm sorry, but the person you are trying to reach is [[Greene County Conspiracy|very paranoid of cyber-bullies]] at this time. If you are coming in on restricted, unknown, or [[Chris and English|out-of-state-of-Virginia number]], please do NOT leave a message and do NOT dial this number again. Message 1-5-8.

===[[April 2011|19 April 2011]]===
'''Chris:''' Hellooo, I'm not available to answer the phone right now, please leave your name, message, and telephone number and I will get back to you as soon as possible. Have a good day.
*[http://www.mediafire.com/?85bb6bbjb3cdw52 Listen here!]

=== c. [[May 2011]] ===
'''Chris:''' [[Autism|Hello. Leave message. Goodbye]].
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4HaqaJmYHQ Listen here!]

=== 13 May 2011===
'''Chris:''' Hello. Please leave your name, message, and telephone number, and I'll get back to you as soon as possible. Otherwise if this is an unsolicited call or you are a person I have not met personally before this call do NOT leave a message and do NOT dial this number again! I repeat: If I don't know you, we have not met personally before, do NOT dial this number again. Otherwise leave a message. I will get back to you or whatever. Have a good day.
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejDsO39UzxU Listen here!]

=== [[June 2011|20 June 2011]]===
'''Chris:''' Hello, you have reached the cellphone. Ye-listen, [[Chris and Reality|I screen my calls]], so it is very unlikely that I will ever pickup on you especially if I have not met you in person. So you're better off just leaving a message, and I will listen to it, I may or may not get back. Don't call my number again- ha-had repeatedly. So, yeah, with that, you have reached the cellphone, please leave your name, message, and telephone number, I may get back to you as soon as possible. Have a good day.

*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJj353Vb4S4 Listen here!]

*[http://www.mediafire.com/?ko58be75hfxos53 Download here!]

=== [[July 2011|2 July 2011]]===
'''Chris:''' Hello, please leave a message at the beep and I will get back to you as soon as possible. Have a good day.

*[http://www.mediafire.com/?ttgxwn408260amp Download here!]

=== 15 July 2011===
'''Chris:''' Hello, you have reach sh-cell phone. Christian Chandler. Please leave your name, message, and phone number and I will get back to you as soon as possible. Have a good day.

=== [[December 2011|6 December 2011]]===
'''Chris:''' Hello, [[Chris and health|I'm sick]]. Don't call this number again. Otherwise leave a message at the beep... Have a good day...

*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Qw2P8aCZY Listen here!]

=== 9 December 2011 ===
'''Chris:''' Hello. Please leave your name, message, and telephone number, and I will get back to you as soon as possible. Have a good day.
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiEO8e0clmU&list=UUPvfRHS7wdHIvlApyeC4fuQ&feature=plcp Listen here!]

=== [[February 2012|11 February 2012]]===
'''Chris:''' Hello, all unsolicited calls will be deleted! Other than that, please leave your name, message, and telephone number, and we will considerably get back to you as soon as possible. Have a good day!

*[http://www.mediafire.com/?da8lcodm440fzkl Download here!]

*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR5Ar5bTayQ Listen here!]

=== [[April 2012|30 April 2012]]===

'''Chris:''' [''maniacal laughter''] You [[trolls]] got ''served''! [''maniacal laughter''] Oh, you know what to do after the beep.

*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0snPhz2eaVs Listen here!]

=== [[May 2012| 5 May 2012]] ===
'''Chris:''' Hello, leave your name message and telephone number after the beep. Have a good day.

*no recording

[[Category:Phone calls]]

Talk:Facebook

2012-05-02T11:01:08Z

Slimz:

==To Do==
*archive the messages on a separate page ([[Facebook messages]] works)
*maybe make a separate page to mirror Chris's Facebook account (to clarify, his Facebook page as it appeared before it was hacked - --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:20, 2 June 2009 (CEST))
*include his notes (maybe a separate page for that too, actually)

As for this page, maybe just outline the extent Chris used Facebook, highlight some of the stuff with it, etc. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:09, 1 June 2009 (CEST)

To put it bluntly; this page needs more words. Some of the messages are very funny when juxtaposed. He would rather go out with a jailbait 17 year old "party girl" (read:slut) than a empathetic single mom. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 23:44, 1 June 2009 (CEST)
* A general commentary for the current themes that pop up in Chris's [[Facebook messages]] and in his Facebook page and notes are more warranted than commentary for each and every individual e-mail.

I know that the Miyamoto Saga e-mails have a commentary of it but most of it is from Clyde (RIP) who provides a commentary on what he was saying as he lost the original sent e-mails from when he was Miyamoto.

But really, I think just a general commentary is needed and that Chris's messages are far more amusing and should speak for themselves. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:55, 2 June 2009 (CEST)

Whatever you say, hoss. Mind was a little skewed due to rage.

What to do STILL - Go through his statuses. How lonesome is this fuck going to be? evenmore.zip [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 19:59, 19 September 2010 (PDT)

==Collapsible gallery==

Oh, and can we make the gallery collapsible? I know standard wiki formatting has the gallery at the bottom, but, like you said, they speak for themselves, so a general commentary would be more aesthetically pleasing below it. Gives the reader space to grasp the fucktardedness before adding our POV. Just a suggestion.--[[User:Jump|Jump]] 04:51, 3 June 2009 (CEST)

*A collapsible gallery would be great, but can you make one? God help us that none of us can't edit unless it's basic shit like making templates (read: copy and pasting stuff from Wikipedia templates, lol), editing pages, etc. Seriously, we could use collapsible galleries in a lot of pages but no one has gotten around to it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:50, 3 June 2009 (CEST)

* Oh, damn, I assumed you were a senior wikifag. I'll see what I can do, it can't be too difficult, right? --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 03:17, 4 June 2009 (CEST)

* I am a wikifag. See [[Template:Collapsible]]. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 03:31, 5 June 2009 (CEST)

==Has Chris regained use of this profile, or is it still under troll control?==
I was under the impression he got it back, but it seems not long ago he posted a status that was pretty clearly a troll. I'm mostly an idiot so there's a good chance this was obvious somewhere long ago, but the article doesn't really address what happened to the profile after trolls hijacked it. Is that something that could be included? --[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 10:28, 2 October 2010 (PDT)

== He's still using Facebook ==

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christian-Weston-Chandler/167832525915

Might wanna update that link.

*LOOKS LEGI- Oh wait. NO IT FUCKING DOESN'T. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 19:53, 27 January 2011 (PST)
Gotta go with Freecell on this one...There is no way in hell this is Chris's facebook...though the going to the bar and bring his DS is something Chris has done before... --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:46, 27 January 2011 (PST)

*What about [http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000426003596 this one?] --[[User:Morbid Duck|Morbid Duck]] 18:43, 22 April 2011 (PDT)
# "This is my real facebook. I had to make a new one due to all these trolls HARASSING ME AND HACKING MY ACCOUNT"
# Uses an old picture everyone has
# "Proud too say I'm still a virgin :)" group
# Talking about Skyrim without a computer
Not Chris. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 07:17, 23 April 2011 (PDT)

*This just appeared on my "you might know this person" sidebar on Facebook. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002534669114 [[User:frozenblwf|Frozenblwf]]

*That one seems pretty legit, Frozenblwf. A pic no one has seen before and the profile is private (so obviously not trying to grab everyone's attention). Good find! --[[User:Elliebytes|Elliebytes]] 16:48, 5 July 2011 (PDT)

*Also, note he is wearing ear rings in both ears. Which means they are recent due to him getting his ears pierced. My money is on this being legit. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:07, 6 July 2011 (PDT)CFA

*Looks like the page has been deleted. [[User:Barachulove|Barachulove]] 03:53, 7 July 2011 (PDT)

*One of the Bobs on facebook is friends with this account, but I'm pretty sure it's not him because the photo is too old. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1801600742 [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 03:15, 13 July 2011 (PDT)

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002534669114 will take you to Chris's facebook profile that uses his typical "chrischansonichu@aol.com" email address. This is a profile picture we've never seen (or at least I don't think we have)*NOTE: It says it was added THIS monday, the 23 of January 2012, so yes, he's still using facebook. It will need a screen cap added. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:42, 25 January 2012 (PST)
*There's also a note he's published about what he wants in a girl...it's pretty hilariously chris:
**Must Meet In-Person First and Upfront (NO Online/Phone/Mail Contact Acceptable beforehand. Must be Referred to me by my Real Friend(s) or Family).

-21 to 29-years old
-Cute, Pretty, Beautiful, or HOT
-Caring, Sweet, Honest
-Education: High School Graduate and/or Better
-NOT A Smoker
-Social Drinker or non-alcoholic
-Upfront
-No STDs
-Carefree/Light-Hearted
-Moderate to Very Intelligent/Smart (Not Ditzy)
-Takative/Outgoing/Not Shy/Good Self-Esteem
-Slim to Average body type (under 170 lbs)
-Between 4 feet, 10 inches and 5 feet, 10 inches
-Brunette or Blonde hair
-B-Cup size minimum
-Clean
-Casual
-Not Crazy or Abusive
-Make-Up Optional
-Well-Informed to Expert in sex
--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 08:46, 25 January 2012 (PST)
: Doesn't look like Tineye or Google Reverse Image Search are turning up anything, either. Guess it is a new picture. I used to know how to pull someone's full profile picture, but I don't remember anymore. I'll see if I can find it. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 08:47, 25 January 2012 (PST)
::I was so intent on dicking around that I didn't realise that his full profile picture is readily available. Never mind. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 09:04, 25 January 2012 (PST)
: Oh my atheist god, he just doesn't get it. While the picture is arguably an improvement over the old ones, this list is... just... just... it has the Chris-essence condensed and distilled in it. It creeps me out. - [[User:LucidFox|LucidFox]] 09:05, 25 January 2012 (PST)

== Dead link ==

During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!

* http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian_Weston_Chandler/579729310
** In [[Facebook]] on 2011-09-20 22:38:31, 404 Not Found
** In [[Facebook]] on 2011-09-28 08:04:22, 404 Not Found

--[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:04, 28 September 2011 (PDT)

== Closed/Privatized ==

I can no longer find his account under chrischansonichu@aol.com; he has either closed it or listed it to private. He had a 'facebook friend' named Kim Wilson who is still listed though. Should it be mentioned in the article that as of Valentines day Chris no longer had a visible facebook page? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 09:26, 15 February 2012 (PST)

==Recent leaks==

As stated previously by the February 2012 page, some screencaps of Chris Facebook wall have been leaked, can we put it on the article or is it too early (a risk of Chris seeing them and leave the internet)--
ADDENDUM : The file name are Chfb1.png to Chfb4.png (uploaded by a user named Westbound)
[[User:René Duprée|René Duprée]] 13:02, 17 February 2012 (PST)

I doubt anyone would mind you adding them as long as they don't make it on the update right away. [[User:Westbound|Westbound]] 08:53, 23 February 2012 (PST)

== Something Fishy ==

All of the recent posts on FB seem odd
The writing seems forced and the content seems to perfect.

Im wondering if this is the act of trolls. Especially the "going back to fashion square with my sign" posts. it just seems like the work of a troll or Chris trying to be a troll. In light of the severity of the court cases and the fact that christian was on a FB hiatus that was possibly due to his lawyers direction, i am in severe doubt as to the genuineness of the recent posts. I understand that came from the TRUE and HONEST CWC account but it just seems... fishy... [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 10:26, 27 April 2012 (PDT)
*Canine has confirmed it. Cogs has confirmed it. Anna is friends with the account, and we all know that Anna and the inner circle don't agree with each other. There is no reason to doubt that this account belongs to Chris. Also, Chris's writing has always seemed forced and anything new about him is always unbelievable at first.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 11:34, 27 April 2012 (PDT)
** I don't think slimz was doubting that the account was Chris's, I think slimz was insinuating that these accounts are "100%" Chris. (Either by hack or by assistance) --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:05, 27 April 2012 (PDT)
* Chris is probably trying to goad da trollz into a mall confrontation, complete with curse-ye-ha-me-has. [[User:Eamoo|Eamoo]] 11:44, 27 April 2012 (PDT)
**I'll admit I think it's all a bit odd but then who knows what is going through Chris's mind at this stage. He seems to be viewing himself as a master troll given the screencaps of the forums and what not. Who knows what he wants. --[[User:Gytrash|Gytrash]] 07:22, 29 April 2012 (PDT)

== "Hynamin"? ==

I believe Chris may be referring to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Hyneman MythBuster Jamie Hyneman] in his most recent note. I have done a quick search of tour information and could not yield anything recent in Virgina. If someone higher on the totem pole could check into this, I think it'd be worth their while. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 20:21, 1 May 2012 (PDT)
== Backpage ==
Backpage is a site like Craigslist that still allows escort advertising. We could probably browse the backpage site for his area and find someone that was/looked half Cherokee (olive skin, dark hair etc) and call them to get the story (if its at all true) virginia.backpage.com i cant do it from work but maybe later today ill look into it [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 04:01, 2 May 2012 (PDT)

Category talk:Pages with broken file links

2012-05-01T17:19:25Z

Slimz: Created page with "Why is this a category? ~~~~"

Why is this a category? [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 10:19, 1 May 2012 (PDT)

Template:Da update

2012-05-01T17:16:54Z

Slimz: i think that reads better

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*30 [[April 2012|April]] - Chris posts on Facebook saying that the [[JenkinsJinkies]] gay camp experience story wasn't real, and comments about his enjoyment over the news that one of his trolls has been caught by the FBI.
*28 [[April 2012|April]]: Chris posts on Facebook that he knows of the [[CWCki]] forums and taunts the trolls with this knowledge
*26 [[April 2012|April]]: Chris posts on Facebook that he aims to return to use of an [[Attraction Sign]] at [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]].
*25 [[April 2012|April]]: Chris posts on Facebook about Derpy, a [[My Little Pony]] character. He's also given a [[ban]] from the [[Fashion Square Shopping Center]].
*16 [[April 2012|April]]: After a two year absence, Chris returns to [[Twitter]] to wish death upon [[Michael Snyder]]. Meanwhile, Chris and Barbara are indicted and will be arraigned on their felony charges on 10 July.
*8 [[April 2012|April]]: In a private [[Facebook]] notice, Chris announces that he has finally lost his [[virgin with rage|virginity]].
*5 [[April 2012|April]]: The Ruckersville Two attend yet another hearing. They are to be sent to a Grand Jury on April 16 regarding [[28 October 2011|their felony cases]], with their other charges being rendered ''[[Wikipedia:Nolle prosequi|nolle prosequi]]''.
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Mario Kart 64 Lego Raceway

2012-05-01T15:20:11Z

Slimz: ok ill deal with the rest of this later, run on sentences, commas all in the wrong places and gratuitous use of the word 'however'

[[File:0441-MarioKartGPGroup.jpg|thumb|250px|Racers 01-09.]]
[[File:0443-9KartCarrier1.jpg|thumb|250px|A cart carrier.]]
'''''Mario Kart 64'' Lego Raceway''' is a video series from [[Chris|Chris's]] [[Christian Weston Chandler...Yep, I'm on TV :)|"I'm on TV" DVD]]. It was filmed using a Game Boy Camera in [[1998]], when Chris was still in [[Manchester High School]].

==Production==

The [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Camera|Game Boy Camera]] is a bulky Game Boy accessory cartridge with a camera built into it, which can be placed into a Game Boy and be used to take grainy black-and-white pictures. Afterward, these pictures can be edited in various ways; they can be drawn on, turned into sprites for a handful of minigames, or strung together to make an animation as Chris did. Using the camera and his [[LEGO]] collection, Chris made a stop-motion animation of the cars racing around his Lego city and firing shells (or in this case, Star and Circle shapes) at each other, then added some appropriate music.

The Game Boy Camera can only hold thirty pictures at a time. That isn't nearly enough for even half a lap. What Chris did was take the thirty pictures, edit them appropriately, string them together into an animation, record the animation, and then repeat the process over and over. To make the sudden starting and stopping seem more "natural", Chris put a second of static at the end of each set of pictures. This didn't do anything to change the fact that the twenty-second music clip Chris used for his animation gets more grating every time it is used.

It is impressive that Chris expended so much time and effort at such a complex and frustrating task, especially considering that years later, he would draw ''Sonichu'' comics without any planning or practice then upload YouTube videos without bothering to check them over first.

In the actual race videos, it's near impossible to tell what's going on, since most of the racers look exactly the same in poor quality black-and-white pictures. It doesn't help that the racing is regularly interrupted by confusing sequences where outsiders attack the racers.

The sequences also appear to have been transferred onto VHS tape at some point, as evidenced by the vertical stabilization problems, the noise at the bottom of the picture at the beginning of the first video, and the general picture quality of the video. Chris got the video on VHS by hooking his Game Boy Camera to a [[Wikipedia:Super_Game_Boy| Super Game Boy]] for his SNES and then recording that way.

==Plot==

Most of the video is taken up with depicting four kart races based on ''[[Wikipedia:Mario Kart 64|Mario Kart 64]]''. As with all CWC projects, the characters competing are from Chris's family, gal-pals, and characters from his favorite media series - in this case, [[Lego]], [[Power Rangers]], [[Nintendo|Super Mario]], ''[[Wikipedia:Dexter's Laboratory|Dexter's Laboratory]]'', [[Star Wars]], a ninja and, bizarrely, [[Wikipedia:Andy Griffith|"Andy Griffit"]]. Some [[Pokémon]] show up too. Oddly enough, there is no sign of [[Sonic]], or even [[Bionic the Hedgehog]] (who had been invented two years earlier).

However, what is very easy to tell is that Chris was perhaps even more of a God-moder in his younger days than he is now, perhaps only now eclipsing his past self with his actions in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]]. In all three races in which Chris appears, he wins easily - in his second race, he even has time to fight Darth Maul and get back on his kart in time to win.

===Interval sequences===

Chris also spends some time in-between races describing his [[Power Rangers]] team, made up of him, [[Cole Smithey]], [[Laura Dorazio]], [[Wikipedia:Princess Peach|Peach]], [[Wikipedia:Mario|Mario]] and [[Wikipedia:Mega Man|Mega Man]]. Unsurprisingly, Chris makes himself the leader. He also spends almost a minute (and several takes worth of animation) showing several karts combine into the KART MEGAZORD, a powerful weapon never seen since until [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]], and even then it hasn't really done anything yet.

He also supplies a tour of his Lego town, which he had not yet christened "[[CWCville]]", which features an Information Center, the Start/Finish Line, Lego Lake, Mt. Extreme, Band Stand, and Fonz's Kart Shop.

==Videos==
===Prototype===
{{Infobox/video
| name = Mario Kart 64 Lego Raceway Prototype
| video = {{#ev:youtube|BJeEks8ihPM}}
| stardate = 4 [[June 1998]]
| subject = {{Video games|text}}
| other = {{Direct Feed|text}}, {{Leaked|[[DVD|Leaked]]}}
| previous = [[Song_of_Christian#Part_2|Song of Christian]]
| next = [[Mario_Kart_64_Lego_Raceway#Part_1|Mario Kart 64 Lego Raceway Part 1]]
}}

[''"Super GAME BOY Nintendo ®"'']

[''Screen is blank for approximately 10 seconds.'']

[''"© 1995 Creatures; © 1995 GAME FREAK"'']

[''Game Boy Camera logo appears and Mario dances.'']

[''Game Boy Camera interface appears and then disappears'']

[''"CHRISTIAN CHANDLER LEGO RACEWAY - Mario Kart 64"'']

[''Four cars drive by.'']

[''"THE END"'']

===Part 1===
{{Infobox/video
| name = Mario Kart 64 Lego Raceway Part 1
| video = {{#ev:youtube|fZoharTWZh8}}
| stardate = 4 [[June 1998]]
| subject = {{Video games|text}}
| other = {{Direct Feed|text}}, {{Leaked|[[DVD|Leaked]]}}
| previous = [[Mario_Kart_64_Lego_Raceway#Prototype|Mario Kart 64 Lego Raceway Prototype]]
| next = [[Mario_Kart_64_Lego_Raceway#Part_2|Mario Kart 64 Lego Raceway Part 2]]
}}

[''Music starts up'']

[''"Christian (c) Chandler Mariokart 64 LEGO RACEWAY 6/4/98"'']

[''"Mario Kart 64 Line-Up:"'']

[''We see a Lego minifig in overalls and a conductor's hat. The label says "Mario."'']

[''2 Christian Chandler"'']

[''"CRASH DUMMIE 3"'']

[''"Peach 4"'']

[''"Megaman and Rush 5"'']

[''"JAILBRAKE JOE 6"'']

[''"Barbara Chandler 7"'']

[''"Cole Smithey 8"'']

[''"POWER RANGER Christian Chandler 9"'']

[''"TONY TWISTER 10"'']

[''"LUIGI 11"'']

[''"ALPHA DRACONIS 12"'']

[''"SANTA CLAUSE 13"'']

[''"Infomaniac 14"'']

[''"DEXTER 15"'']

[''"Laura Dorazio 16"'']

[''"QUEEN GYPSY MOTH 17"'']

[''"Pharoh's Mummy 18"'']

[''"ANDY GRIFFIT 19"'']

[''"BONSAI 20" (some weird kanji below him)'']

[''"Sarah Hammer"'']

[''STATIC'']

[''RACE 1: Racers 1-10 3 Laps'']

[''We see the racers waiting up at the starting line. The camera circles around giving us a 360 degree view. The starting light changes, and the race is on!'']

[''Christian has the early lead, and he turns left into a shortcut. Mario tries to follow him but hits the edge, spinning out of control.'']

[''STATIC'']

[''Power Ranger Christian and Santa Clause pass Mario, and Mario follows.'']

[''Chris drives onto a bridge, followed by QUEEN GYPSY MOTH. Mario again spins out of control, missing the bridge entirely.'']

[''Jailbrake Joe and Power Ranger Chris go on the bridge.'']

[''STATIC'']

[''Zoom in on Power Ranger's wheels. White dots come out of the back, as though he is revving up. He backs up and corrects his direction.'']

[''We see Chris crossing the bridge. QUEEN GYPSY MOTH is at the head of the pack, and Chris cuts her off.'']

[''STATIC'']

[''First lap completed. Chris takes the shortcut again. QUEEN GYPSY MOTH and Jailbrake Joe apparently circle around each other. We see more racers.'']

[''STATIC'']

[''Power Ranger Christian picks up a bonus and fires at Cole, sending him into a spin'']

[''STATIC'']

[''Chris crosses the line in 1st'']

[''STATIC'']

[''"RACE 1 RESULTS:"'']

[''"RACE 1'' 
''1st Christian'' 
''2nd Cole'' 
''3rd Mario'' 
''4th Mega Man"'']

[''"For the racing line-up. The Force enters..."'']

[''Luke Skywalker drives up, gets out of his car and brandishes his lightsaber. he hets back in, turns around and drives away'']

[''STATIC'']

[''"RACE 2: Racers 11-22. 3 Laps"'']

[''The racers line up at the starting grid. A spaceship flies around in circles.'']

[''STATIC'']

[''The race begins. Some sort of powerup or missile or something hits a car.'']

[''STATIC'']

[''The racers finish a lap, with QUEEN GYPSY MOTH and Mario in the lead'']

[''STATIC'']

[''An airplane flies around'']

'''Someone:''' DESTROY MISSILE!

[''The missile hits Pharoh's Mummy's car'']

'''Pharoh's Mummy:''' I'm stuck!

[''His car explodes'']

[''STATIC'']

[''A huge pileup'']

[''STATIC'']

[''Arthur Fonzerelli [''sic''] shows up trackside. He walks up to a car, presumably to fix it, and BONSAI draws his katana.'']

[''STATIC'']

[''The Fonz runs away from BONSAI and drives off on his motorbike'']

[''STATIC'']

[''There is confusion around the crash site'']

[''STATIC'']

[''A mechanic tries to fix it up'']

[''The race finally ends, with Infomaniac in 1st place'']

[''"RACE 2 RESULTS"'']

[''"RACE 2'' 
''1st Infomaniac.'' 
''2nd Sarah H.'' 
''3rd Luke S.'' 
''4th Luigi"'']

[''STATIC'']

[''"While we prepare for the next race, we will take a quick tour of... MY '''LEGO TOWN!'''"'']

[''The camera jerks around, showing the Information Center, the Start/Finish Line, Lego Lake, Mt. Extreme, Band Stand, Fonz's Kart Shop'']

[''"And now, back to the races..."'']

[''"RACE 3 DRIVERS: 02, 14, 08, 21, 01, 22, 05, and 11. 3 Laps."'']

[''The racers line up and the race starts'']

[''STATIC'']

[''The race passes something labelled "CRYSTLE"'']

'''Christian:''' HI!

[''STATIC'']

[''The race continues'']

[''STATIC'']

[''QUEEN GYPSY MOTH stands in front of the race'']

'''QUEEN GYPSY MOTH:''' FREEZE!

[''The racers just hit her and keep going'']
===Part 2===
{{Infobox/video
| name = ''Mario Kart 64'' Lego Raceway Part 2
| video = {{#ev:youtube|yVGaPZnptXg}}
| stardate = 4 [[June 1998]]
| subject = {{Video games|text}}
| other = {{Direct Feed|text}}, {{Leaked|[[DVD|Leaked]]}}
| previous = [[Mario_Kart_64_Lego_Raceway#Part_1|Mario Kart 64 Lego Raceway Part 1]]
| next = [[Chris_Chan_in_the_PokéNews#Video|Chris Chan in the PokéNews]]
}}

[''STATIC'']

[''Peach sees R2-D2 and brakes.'']

'''Peach:''' R2-D2?

[''She gets out of the car.'']

'''Peach:''' Why are you here?

'''R2-D2:''' BEEP BLURP

'''Peach:''' I see. ok. [''to [[Wikipedia:The Fonz|the Fonz]]''] Fonz, tell Anakin R2 dropped in. and we'll shoot him by, A.S.A.P.

'''Christian Chandler:''' Here he comes!

[''Darth Maul flies by in an X-Wing and Chris shoots at him'']

[''Chris drives on, in the lead. The other racers follow.'']

[''STATIC'']

[''Darth Maul ejects from the downed X-Wing and stands trackside. The approaching Chris is shocked.'']

'''Darth Maul:''' JOIN THE DARK SIDE!

'''Chris:''' NO! IT'S MORPHIN' TIME!

[''Chris morphs into his Power Ranger form.'']

[''BLACK SCREEN'']

[''Christian and Darth Maul fight, Chris with a sort of sword and Darth Maul with [[Clyde and Tito PS3 E-mails|his own Damn Darth Maul Dual Light Saber]].'']

[''STATIC'']

[''Chris casts Maul off of the track'']

'''Chris:''' TOO BAD.

[''Chris drives on, and somehow, is in the lead. He crosses the finish line and the words "1st place" appear.'']

[''STATIC'']

[''The top four are lined up'']

[''"RACE 3 RESULTS:"'']

['''''"RACE 3"''' ''"'''1st''' Christian C.'' '''''2nd''' Infomanic'' '''''3rd''' Cole S.'' '''''4th''' Luke S."'']

[''Aerial shot of the city, with intro: "A LONG TIME AGO... EVIL INVADED THE GOOD TOWN... BUT A SUPER TEAM WAS FORMED TO... STOP THEM. THEY ARE KNOWN AS..."'']

[''Camera flies down to: MEGA MAN. LUIGI. PEACH. They each put on Power Ranger costumes.'']

[''BLACK SCREEN'']

[''"LAURA DORAZIO. MARIO. COLE SMITHEY."'']

[''"AND THE LEADER...]

[''"CHRISTIAN C."'']

[''They stand in triangle formation. The title "POWER RANGERS" appears.'']

[''"AND WHEN THEY NEED MORE POWER... THEIR KARTS JOIN TO FORM"'']

[''STATIC'']

[''Karts join together, then drive around a bit.'']

[''STATIC'']

[''Karts combining'']

[''STATIC'']

[''They finish combining.'']

[''"THE KART MEGAZORD!"'']

[''STATIC'']

[''"FINAL. RACE 4. DRIVERS: 02, 14, 08, 22, 21, 05, and 11. 3 LAPS"'']

[''They line up to start. [[Pikachu]] zaps the starting lights and the race begins.'']

[''A truck is on the track, for no clear reason. The racers drive by.'']

[''STATIC'']

[''A car goes into a spin and causes a pile-up.'']

[''STATIC'']

[''Mew appears and psychically spins BONSAI'']

[''STATIC'']

[''We zoom in on Ash Ketchem [''sic'']. He throws a Poké Ball at Mew.'']
'''Ash Ketchem:''' GO! POKÉ BALL!

[''Mew is captured.'']

'''Ash Ketchem:''' I'VE GOT MEW!

[''STATIC'']

[''The race continues. A Blastoise fires water at the leader and she spins away.'']

[''STATIC'']

[''A Venusaur sleeps in the middle of the track. Chris stops his car and plays a Poké Flute to awaken it. The camera zooms in on a man going to a house'']

'''Man:''' NOBODY WAS AT HOME!

[''Camera zooms in on a Charizard'']

[''STATIC'']

[''Charizard flies around'']

[''STATIC'']

[''Chris crosses the line; "1st place" appears. Infomaniac is 2nd, Cole 3rd, Mario 4th. The final results are then listed on the screen.'']

[''"CIRCUIT MATH: 1st: 5 pnts. 2nd: 4 pnts. 3rd: 2 pnts. 4th: 1 pnts. RESULTS -> ->"'']

[''"RESULTS:'' 
''1. Christian C. 15'' 
''2. Infomaniac. 13'' 
''3. Cole S. 8'' 
''4. Sarah H. 4"'' 

[''STATIC'']

[''"AWARDS CEREMONIES."'']

[''"Christian'won the GOLD,and $10,000!"'']

[''"Infomaniac won the SILVER, and $5,000!"'']

[''"Cole won the Bronze, and$2,000!"'']

[''"Sarah won a year's supply of pizza!'']

'''Pizza Boy:''' [''hands Sarah a pizza''] Here is your 1st pie.

[''Zoom in on Bob and Barbara'']

[''"[[Reality|And CWC's parents were proud of him.]]"'']

'''Christian:''' [[Spanish|Muy Bueno!]]

[''"The End."'']

[''STATIC'']

[''"AFTERMATH... 3 new racers that did not make it in time for the races."'']

[''"Vader Droid 23"]

[''"Anakin Skywalker & R2-D2 24"'']

[''"[[Kellie Andes]] 25"'']

[''"CREDITS"'']

[''Game Boy Camera'']

[''"THE CAST..."'']

[''Racers are listed again'']

[''"REST... P.Boy, D.Maul, A. Fonzerelli, Robert C., Mandy M., Obi Juan, Ash K., M. Droids.''"] [all ''sic'']

[''"Pokémon: Mew, Pikachu, Charizard, Blastoise, Venusaur."'']

[''"PRODUCER: BARBARA WESTON CHANDLER -MOM." with a photo of her'']

[''"PRODUCER: -DAD. ROBERT FRANKLIN CHANDLER JR."'']

[''"Producer, Director, Lihtin & Special Effects,Constructor of Town,Costumes and Vehicles, Backgrounds, and Narrator..."'']

[''"Christian Weston Chandler." with creepy photo'']

[''Game Boy Camera'']

[''"This animation was inspired by LEGO & Nintendo"'']

[''Game Boy Camera'']

[''"SPECIAL THANKS: Mom, Dad, many of my good friends, family, the Leo & N.O.A. Companies, and Christian C."'']

[''"CHRISTIAN © CHANDLER; MARIO KART 64; LEGO 6/4/98 RACEWAY"'']

==Results==
In this table, "X" means the racer finished outside the top 4; "—" means the racer did not compete.
[[Image:0441-MarioKartGPGroup.jpg|thumb|right|Line-up of the racers.]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1"
|+ Sortable table
|-
! scope="col" class="unsortable" | Rank
! scope="col" | Code
! scope="col" | Racer
! scope="col" class="unsortable" | R1
! scope="col" class="unsortable" | R2
! scope="col" class="unsortable" | R3
! scope="col" class="unsortable" | R4
! scope="col" | Total
|-
| 1st
| 02
| [[Christian Chandler]]
| '''5'''
| —
|'''5'''
|'''5'''
| '''15'''
|-
| 2nd
| 14
| [[Wikipedia:Infomaniac|Infomaniac]]
| —
| '''5'''
|'''4'''
|'''4'''
| '''13'''
|-
| 3rd
| 08
|[[Cole Smithey]]
| '''4'''
| —
|'''2'''
|'''2'''
| '''8'''
|-
| 4th
| 21
| [[Sarah Hammer]]
| —
| '''4'''
|X
|X
| '''4'''
|-
| T-5th
| 01
|[[Nintendo|MARIO]]
| '''2'''
| —
|X
|'''1'''
| '''3'''
|-
| T-5th
| 22
| [[Wikipedia:Luke Skywalker|Luke Skywalker]]
| —
| '''2'''
|'''1'''
|X
| '''3'''
|-
| T-7th
| 05
|[[Wikipedia:|Mega Man]] & [[Wikipedia:List of characters in the Mega Man series#Rush|Rush]]
| '''1'''
| —
|X
|X
| '''1'''
|-
| T-7th
| 11
| [[Wikipedia:Luigi|LUIGI]]
| —
| '''1'''
|X
|X
| '''1'''
|-
| —
| 03
|[[Wikipedia:The Incredible Crash Dummies|CRASH DUMMIE]]
| X
| —
| —
| —
| '''0'''
|-
| —
| 04
|[[Wikipedia:Princess Peach|Peach]]
| X
| —
| —
| —
| '''0'''
|-
| —
| 06
|[[Lego|JAILBRAKE JOE]]<ref>[http://lego.wikia.com/wiki/1786_Jailbreak_Joe]</ref>
|X
| —
| —
| —
| '''0'''
|-
| —
| 07
|[[Barbara Chandler]]
|X
| —
| —
| —
| '''0'''
|-
| —
| 09
|[[Power Rangers|POWER RANGER]] [[Christian Chandler]]
|X
| —
| —
| —
| '''0'''
|-
| —
| 10
| [[Wikipedia:Lego Time Travels#Time Twisters (1997)|TONY TWISTER]]
|X
| —
| —
| —
| '''0'''
|-
| —
| 12
| [[Wikipedia:Lego Racers|ALPHA DRACONIS]]
| —
|X
| —
| —
| '''0'''
|-
| —
| 13
| [[Christmas|SANTA CLAUSE]]
| —
|X
| —
| —
| '''0'''
|-
| —
| 15
| [[Wikipedia:Dexter's Laboratory|DEXTER]]
| —
| X
| —
| —
| '''0'''
|-
| —
| 16
| [[Laura Dorazio]]
| —
| X
| —
| —
| '''0'''
|-
| —
| 17
| [[Wikipedia:Lego Racers (video game)|QUEEN GYPSY MOTH]]
| —
| X
| —
| —
| '''0'''
|-
| —
| 18
| [[Wikipedia:Lego Racers (video game)|Pharoh's Mummy]]
| —
| X
| —
| —
| '''0'''
|-
| —
| 19
| [[Wikipedia:The Andy Griffith Show|ANDY GRIFFIT]]
| —
| X
| —
| —
| '''0'''
|-
| —
| 20
| [[Wikipedia:Ten thousand years|BONSAI]]
| —
| X
| —
| —
| '''0'''
|}

== Sources ==

<references/>

{{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[Song of Christian]]|nextlink=[[Chris Chan in the PokéNews]]|}}
{{CWC on TV}}
[[Category:Chris-chan videos before 2007| 1998-06-04]]

Bruce Johnson

2012-04-30T16:52:24Z

Slimz:

{{Stub}}
Dr. L. '''Bruce Johnson''' was the principal of the [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School]], where Chris attended fourth grade. According to the book ''101 Stunts For Principals To Inspire Student Achievement'', Johnson was a fun loving man who, once a year, would dress up as popular children's book character Captain Underpants to inspire his students to earn higher standardized test scores.<ref>http://books.google.com/books?id=vnLetsZ4l4kC&pg=PA82&lpg=PA82&dq=bruce+johnson+nathanael+greene+elementary&source=bl&ots=4U2JRHDRVQ&sig=-F7-zgcgNbl1q9yfqu6wzAefRhg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=35aLT4n0Bcjz0gGCmPndCQ&sqi=2&ved=0CDoQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=bruce%20johnson%20nathanael%20greene%20elementary&f=false</ref> According to Chris, he was a monstrous [[pedophile]] who would sexually and physically abuse the children.

==Chris's accusations==
===Pedophilia===
Dr. Johnson was first mentioned by Chris in a [[Captain's Log, Stardate January 21st, 2009|Captain's Log video]] from 21 January 2009, where he hinted that he had uncovered "repressed memories." Chris later went into a bit more detail in [[Mumble 3]].

{{quotebox|Oh yes. Doctor Johnson of Nathanael Greene Elementary. The principal. He was a h- he was uh, the homo... that pretty much set me against... the homos and further kept me on the straight path.<ref>[[Mumble 3]]</ref>}}

In an IRC chat from around the same time, Chris had more to say about Johnson:

{{quotebox|The Principle of the Nathanel Greene [[Chris and English#Spelling|Elemetary]] School [sic], Dr. Johnson, was a [[Homo]], and when I was sent to his office; he picked me up, set me on his lap, then I would always get off his lap, because I ALWAYS HATED that; I felt bad vibes back then. Fortunately, it has never gone beyond that, and my father caught his intentions on that, and the Court Battles Started. He likely exagerates [sic], but my father knew that there were a bunch of homos within that school board, and that was why they hated me and my family, in addition to those people not understanding Autism. Anyway, from those past memories, that is why I have grown up to Rarely Associate with men, and why I DESPIE [sic] THE HOMOS the Worst.}}

===Physical abuse===
{{quotebox|...some of the teachers and principals of Nathanael Greene Elementary School… that I was attending in later years (about, uh, late 1980s, early 1990s) [inhales sharply] They abused me—they abused me by pinning me to the ground with, uh, their ha—with, uh, holding my wrists and my ankles, pinning me down to the ground and—and audio-taping my cries and shouts. But, anyway, my mother and my father, they both fought the court system, the Greene County court system, which, uh, they were not a very nice bunch of people, very not.<ref>[[Chris Chan's Public Announcement]]</ref>}}

==Reality==
Much like Chris's other claim against Nathanael Greene Elementary, like that the school wanted to commit him to a mental institution when in reality they wanted to send him to a specialized school for autistics<ref>[[autism papers]]</ref>, his claims against Bruce Johnson should also be taken with a grain of salt.

== Sources ==
<references/>

==See Also==
*[[Chris's education]]
*[[Nathanael Greene Elementary School]]

{{People}}
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Dr. L. '''Bruce Johnson''' was the principal of the [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School]], where Chris attended fourth grade. According to the book ''101 Stunts For Principals To Inspire Student Achievement'', Johnson was a fun loving man who, once a year, would dress up as popular children's book character Captain Underpants to inspire his students to earn higher standardized test scores.<ref>http://books.google.com/books?id=vnLetsZ4l4kC&pg=PA82&lpg=PA82&dq=bruce+johnson+nathanael+greene+elementary&source=bl&ots=4U2JRHDRVQ&sig=-F7-zgcgNbl1q9yfqu6wzAefRhg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=35aLT4n0Bcjz0gGCmPndCQ&sqi=2&ved=0CDoQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=bruce%20johnson%20nathanael%20greene%20elementary&f=false</ref> According to Chris, he was a monstrous [[pedophile]] who would sexually and physically abuse the children.

==Chris's accusations==
===Pedophilia===
Dr. Johnson was first mentioned by Chris in a [[Captain's Log, Stardate January 21st, 2009|Captain's Log video]] from 21 January 2009, where he hinted that he had uncovered "repressed memories." Chris later went into a bit more detail in [[Mumble 3]].

{{quotebox|Oh yes. Doctor Johnson of Nathanael Greene Elementary. The principal. He was a h- he was uh, the homo... that pretty much set me against... the homos and further kept me on the straight path.<ref>[[Mumble 3]]</ref>}}

In an IRC chat from around the same time, Chris had more to say about Johnson:

{{quotebox|The Principle of the Nathanel Greene [[Chris and English#Spelling|Elemetary]] School [sic], Dr. Johnson, was a [[Homo]], and when I was sent to his office; he picked me up, set me on his lap, then I would always get off his lap, because I ALWAYS HATED that; I felt bad vibes back then. Fortunately, it has never gone beyond that, and my father caught his intentions on that, and the Court Battles Started. He likely exagerates [sic], but my father knew that there were a bunch of homos within that school board, and that was why they hated me and my family, in addition to those people not understanding Autism. Anyway, from those past memories, that is why I have grown up to Rarely Associate with men, and why I DESPIE [sic] THE HOMOS the Worst.}}

===Physical abuse===
{{quotebox|...some of the teachers and principals of Nathanael Greene Elementary School… that I was attending in later years (about, uh, late 1980s, early 1990s) [inhales sharply] They abused me—they abused me by pinning me to the ground with, uh, their ha—with, uh, holding my wrists and my ankles, pinning me down to the ground and—and audio-taping my cries and shouts. But, anyway, my mother and my father, they both fought the court system, the Greene County court system, which, uh, they were not a very nice bunch of people, very not.<ref>[[Chris Chan's Public Announcement]]</ref>}}

==Reality==
Much like Chris's other claim against Nathanael Greene Elementary, like that the school wanted to commit him to a mental institution when in reality they wanted to send him to a specialised school for autistics<ref>[[autism papers]]</ref>), his claims against Bruce Johnson should also be taken with a grain of salt.

== Sources ==
<references/>

==See Also==
*[[Chris's education]]
*[[Nathanael Greene Elementary School]]

{{People}}
{{DEFAULTSORT:Johnson, Bruce}}
[[Category: People]]

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For discussion that doesn't fit into the other community pages - though do keep it related to the CWCki.

=="No shit is too minor"==

This is something that's been on my mind for a while and I feel like getting it off my chest now. It's about our motto "No shit is too minor." I get this impression that people think it means "We have a duty to document every facet of Chris, we must know everything about Chris, if Chris takes a shit we need to document it and keep track of his bowel movements." I think that isn't the case.

First off, "no shit is too minor" is something someone just came up with one day and I thought it suited us well. It's not something I came up with or anything, but I've liked it because what I've always interpreted it as is "We shouldn't overlook things about Chris." At times, people can be like "Oh, we don't need to worry about this recording, we've looked over it before," that is that they will overlook material about Chris or not think it's important. I think the "no shit is too minor" in that as wiki editors we should dig through the content we do have and try and find new insights about Chris in it. For instance, when I first watched the [[The 24th Wedding Anniversary Special]] I didn't think much of it. I was like "Okay, Chris is rambling on and doing Animal Crossing shit, who cares?" But then I watched it another day and noticed that he talks a lot about his parents and how they met, that's some pretty significant information. It doesn't mean we have to analyze his choice of font in the video, or we need to do a Freudian analysis of his music choices, but merely we shouldn't overlook things.

Anyways, I could go on but what I think we need to do is not to overlook the little things, that's how I've interpreted, rather than "Chris has a bowel movement, we need to document it and we need to know Chris's regularity" which is how I see a lot of people interpret it as.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:25, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*I agree completely, and encourage you to consider getting a new motto. I think the current one brings out people's spergy side. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:28, 27 January 2012 (PST)
** as i have said before, once you start leaving out details its like cancer. its all or nothing eventually. Either include everything because you never know what is or is going to be important (Elvis died on the crapper), or just dont include anything. if chris is irregular, well that sounds unimportant, but down the road that simple detail could help someone figure out something else. Logic requires detail for extrapolation of facts. more detail, more extrapolation, more facts...[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 07:03, 27 January 2012 (PST)
** a possible new motto would be "Just the facts" or "The devil is in the details"
**No, cancer would be filling up the CWCki with too many pointless details. Champ's rant was all about how we DON'T need to write about every little trivial aspect of Chris's life. It's fine to leave stupid shit out, and that's what we're trying to do. And, that is also why we are having this discussion about a possible new motto. That said, I think you have some good ideas for possible alternate mottos, and I highly encourage Champ if he's reading this to consider them. Also, you have to sign all your posts, not just your first one. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:55, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*** Define what is 'stupid' clearly... What facts should be left out? COnjecture, that should be left out.. Opinion, that should be left out... But NO FACT no matter HOW MINISCULE should ever be left out, lest it be gone forever. The simple things, the details, the minutia, thats where the truth of Chris really lies...[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 09:12, 7 February 2012 (PST)

== Linking quotes ==

Ok so i was reading the PS3 article over and notices that chris is quoted saying 'I'd throw away the cure for autism' where the word autism is linked to the autism page. well on the Pixelated_PS3 page (where the video lives that the quote comes from) autism is is also linked to the word autism.. ok here is the issue, when quoting chris on a page other then the one that has the original video, should we link the quote to that page directly? i mean we seem to link all kinds of stuff to all kinds of stuff but a barely see any quotes linked back to the source of the quote. Just asking what the protocol is for that?
*We usually do link back the quotes in the article text around them or in the quote description. I don't think that there is any set in stone policy about it, but I can't really think of any instance where a quote's source has not been linked in the article somewhere. If you can though, by all means show me where. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:55, 27 January 2012 (PST)
* if i run across it i will rectify it, the source is linked in the citation on the page i was talking about so there is a link, Chris is obviously quoted often so im sure there are quotes on pages with no back links. i guess creating citations for quotes is the best way to go.

== Megaupload and Filesharing sites ==

I've noticed that in quite a few articles that include things for download the link that lead to recently shut down file serving sites have been closed. Is it a priority to fix these? [[User:Granola|Granola]] 06:42, 13 February 2012 (PST)

== Chris an violence ==

Chris and violence have a long relationship. He has not only threatened violence, but also responded to threats of violence. He has performed tasks under the threat of violence and requested that tasks be performed with violence as an alternative..

The point here is that anger is one thing and violence is another. Chris has enough of a relationship with different areas of violence, that i believe that it deserves an article in the '''Chris and''' series.

Violence itself should not be lumped with anger. Anger is an emotion where as violence is an act (or in many cases the threat of an act) anger deals with how chris feels toward a specific situation where as violence deals with how Chris acts. im not a great christorian but i know enough to understand that ''''Chris and violence'''' is a subject that deserves a page on this wiki... [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 05:31, 9 March 2012 (PST)
*First, we already have the [[Death Threats]] article, so that kind of counts. Second, Chris is pretty much [[Power|incapable]] of violence anyway (unless he gets his hands on a gun, but why would he buy a gun when that can go into [[vidya]]?), so anger and threats are all he's going to get. While I agree that he does seem to resort to violence pretty often, I have to say that he often channels that anger into various things we already have articles on, whether it be the [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] or the death threats previously mentioned. [[User:Boriki|Boriki]] 20:42, 22 March 2012 (PDT)
** Im not entirely convinced. The article i was thinking about is not just focused on chris DOING violence, but how he perceives violence, his bigotry regarding violence, and how he reacts to threats of violence. Basically chris is a bully, a pussy and generally has no empathy.[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 05:01, 23 March 2012 (PDT)
***Sounds rather pointless to me. The Chris and series in general just seems to be a way to take potshots at Chris nowadays, but they do have their place and they do cover a lot of things that would be hard to place into other articles. [[Chris and the law]] for instance I think is a page we needed to have. It could have ''maybe'' been placed into the [[Jerkop]] article, but it would have been wildly out of place. Now Chris and Violence on the other hand is something that very easily folds into articles like [[Death Threats]] and [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]], or even [[Chris and anger]]. Really, if you want to go into Chris's perception of violence, most of what you'd come up with would be ninety percent speculation anyway. You can try to write up the article yourself, and if anything is salvageable and CWCki appropriate we could make it into a [[Chris and anger]] subsection, but it's hardly appropriate for its own article. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:38, 23 March 2012 (PDT)

== A-Logging ==

I've been thinking, what would you all think of a page covering "A-Logging", that is thinking that Chris is worse than Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot combine and deserves to be punished? I think this issue is sort of the opposite extreme of [[White knighting]] which we deal with. Now, I bring this up here because I ask - do you think we should have a formal article about it, ala the White knighting article, or perhaps we should make a policy about it to elaborate on [[CWCki:NPOV|NPOV]]? I think we get a lot of grief that we tend to foster A-Logs, that people will read the CWCki and think Chris is an awful person who has committed crimes against humanity (which really isn't the case). Or perhaps we should do both? My concern with an actual article on it is that A-Logging hasn't really impacted Chris trolling the same way white knighting has. A-Logs don't really fuck things up, they just make normal trolls look bad.

I think we should try to be more neutral towards Chris, critical yet fair, as I believe that ideally we should be presenting information about Chris as "This is what we know about Chris" rather than "Chris is x, y, z (and they're all bad things"). So, what do you all think? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:59, 29 April 2012 (PDT)

== Activity meter ==

I was wondering if we could setup an activity meter, kind of like the defcon or the homeland security color system. It would theoretically measure how active chris is. Just thought ot would be a nice graphic that we could update when his activity level changes. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 09:26, 30 April 2012 (PDT)

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== Proposed article ==

This is my proposed solution to how we manage and collect information pertaining to the events of October 28th 2011.

To-do:
* Add categories
* Add more verifiable information
* <s>Screencap the pages from the court website for preservation.</s>

--[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 14:44, 5 November 2011 (PDT)

: Do we have a field agent that can attend the court hearing? That should give us the entire story behind all of this --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 13:15, 5 November 2011 (PDT)

: I live 2 hours away, my company pays my gas, and if I am not too busy with a lady, I could attend this court hearing if given the proper location of the hearing. [[User:Dickbuns|Dickbuns]] 02:31, 26 February 2012 (PST)

Shouldn't it be mentioned this is the first (major) event since Bob died? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 13:43, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
*Is it noteworthy enough to note that their arraignments (or the time that the defendants are told of their crimes and to take guilty or not guilty pleas) have come to pass and according to their records, they are listed as "continued" which in this case means that they probably pled "not guilty" and are now facing their day in court? The only other explanation of "continued" being listed that I found was this, "continued in court cases generally means that they (defendant) plead 'not guilty' or that a plea deal/plea bargain is in the works". I just thought it'd be a note worthy fact-- that they are either planning a deal, or that they think they are not guilty. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 10:46, 7 November 2011 (PST)
:The article is already rife with speculation, and until we see court documents or other documents - we don't know the exact circumstances surrounding the charges, the pleas given (if any), medical considerations or other reasons for deferral. I'd rather we waited until we could prove the reason for deferral under the "continued" reason before we document it. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:10, 7 November 2011 (PST)

===Title===
Shouldn't the title be Americanized? September 11th isn't referred to as 11/9.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:06, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
:We have a few articles with titles like this ([[12_October_2009|e.g.]]), so while I don't know if it's "right" or not, much like "Chris's", it's just become a standard. Good eye, though. I didn't catch that it wasn't Americanised. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 16:11, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
:I based it on articles like [[6 June 2010]]. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:13, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
:: Chris with felonly charges? Ohhh, Santa came early this year, and goddamn, did he deliver~! Anywho; if it was Chris on his own, it might've been dismissed like last time, but with Barb involved too, this is more concrete and serious: I propose that the formal title of the page (or saga, if it comes to that) be the name of the court case (Snyder or People vs Chandler, whatever it may be) when we get it. --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:45, 6 November 2011 (PDT)
:Oh yeah and come to think of it - we Eurofag dates - see [[A_Quick_Guide_to_CWCki#When_it_comes_to_dates.2C_be_a_Eurofag|here]]. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 06:06, 20 December 2011 (PST)

==x==
Thank you based God [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 16:44, 5 November 2011 (PDT)

== Explanation ==

Am I reading this right? Chris got an Assault charge (assumption being it has to do with Snyder) but Barb got one too... but for a police officer, because her day in court was Oct 31, is there any information about what "assault" on the officer she actually did? Does anyone know what "complainant : CASON" means? And where can the stuff about him being in jail for two days be found? (or was this something Chris himself gave out?) --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:08, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
*Edit: ah, the actual trial for the assault isn't until December, so we probably won't find out what she did until then... It was some civil case between her and Snyder that occurred Oct 31-Nov 1--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:13, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
** Oct. 31st was her formal arraignment, where I guess they informed her of the charges against her and set a court date for a criminal trial. Whether or not Mr. Snyder will file a civil suit remains to be seen, but somehow I doubt that her wants to have anything more to do with the Chandlers if he can help it. [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 21:29, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
***(Messed up original links, but)Snyder's pressing civil charges against both, as both of his civil cases can be seen on the Virginia General District Courts site. Also, assault can be something as simple as a verbal threat, don't know if that was the case here, but it's something to keep in mind. [[User:Mrmonster|Mrmonster]] 00:36, 6 November 2011 (PDT)

== Who paid bail? ==

Is there any way to find out who paid bail? Most likely it was one of his extended family, but still. --[[User:Melainia|Melainia]] 01:33, 6 November 2011 (PDT)
*It could have also been a bondsman, which is pretty likely. That's their whole business. --[[User:Mrmonster|Mrmonster]] 00:38, 6 November 2011 (PDT)

==Civil Charges==
Anyone have any addition info about the civil charges from Mike? http://i.imgur.com/Fz281.png It says they were in court on Nov 1st but the case is listed as "Other Judgement" and a lot of the other fields are empty. Did Mike drop the case? --[[User:KillDeer|KillDeer]] 18:12, 6 November 2011 (PST)
*Saw this on /cwc/, it says [http://www.facebook.com/Newsplex/posts/10150348599173564 here] a person was injured, it could have been Mike. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 22:56, 10 November 2011 (PST)
* We still await more concrete and reliable sources about the exact series of events. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:29, 11 November 2011 (PST)

==Chris's defense?==

Not sure if the Autism card will completely save him this time, espectially for a felony. But could his years of being trolled actually give him a valid claim of "harassment". There certainly is an ocean of information posted online about him, much of which is blatant insults towards him. Any chance the CWCki could get in any sort of trouble for instigating these actions by Chris?

Also, may want to bring up that psych evaluation he had back in 2004 when he was kicked out of school. Could that prove any insight to his reasoning behind this incident; and could it maybe help/hurt his case?--[[User:Jcrowley1985|Jcrowley1985]] 19:36, 6 November 2011 (PST)
* No. As far as I can tell, Chris using trolls and/or the CWCki as a reason for violating a restraining order is not going to cut it. I know he used it with the last little incident, but any judge with half a brain stem would realize that it's less about internet bullies and more about a 29-year-old man who should know better just ''not getting it''.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 19:59, 6 November 2011 (PST)
* High Functioning Autism wouldn't play a huge role here, simply because it's not a truly debilitating disorder these days, and there is no way a judge would even consider the argument that "trolls" made him do it.... Chris having trolls doesn't change the fact that he did something wrong and illegal. It'll actually be pretty hilarious if he tries to use this site for proof against trolls simply for the fact that there are a lot of things Chris himself has 'donated' to the site that could get him in even more trouble... for example: does Mr.Snyder know that Chris has stated, on the internet, that Snyder is a child molester and has potentially fiddled with his own kids? Yeah, that won't go over too well. The way things are looking, if Chris is found guilty of any of these; he'll see jail/prison time for sure (if only because he will be unable to pay his huge fees and fines) Barb is probably in the same boat. Sadly, another thing to point out is that if they have to get repo-ed to pay for anything, the county will finally have to deal with their horrendous hoarding problem and will probably condemn the house, just as Bob had feared. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:38, 6 November 2011 (PST)
*It all depends on how his lawyer wants to play it. Is Robert Bell acting as a PD for his pro bono work? Either way, I'd bet that either his lawyer is so blase in regards to the situation and/or so overwrought by his other cases that he'll just advise Chris to plead guilty with mitigating circumstances (autism, grief, etc.), or, it's always possible that Robert Bell's a total shark who'll get Chris off with a slap on the wrist, yet again. Of course, there's always the possibility that he'll be committed.
I know Chris and Barb have four cars (one of which is a Jag according to one of the Kacey calls) so they could hock those for some CWC cash (see that thing I did?), and lord knows that Chris and Barb probably have at least, AT LEAST, $2000 worth of useless shit lying around their house, but, somehow, I'm in doubt that Barb'll be able to rouse Chris off of his ass for long enough to get him to help her (and himself).
I've got to admit, I feel sort of sorry for Chris and Barb. Bob just died and lord knows that you never know what you have until it's gone. Their actions are inexcusable, yeah, but still, it's horrible that things have to end this way, if that's what ends up happening. I was, I guess naively, hoping that something would seep through Chris's skull and he'd just gracefully leave the internet and take some steps to improve himself, but it doesn't look like that's ever going to happen. He should thank God that's he's not going to be going to prison if he does have to be incarcerated. He'd get passed around like fucking candy there.

tl;dr Chris is fucked any-which-way [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 21:18, 6 November 2011 (PST)

: It's worse than that. If Chris is foolish enough to reference this site, he's going to be pointing the court toward evidence that he has no regrets on this incident, since the first thing he did after getting out of jail was to crow about his crimes here. Any decent prosecutor would then dig up his youtube videos, handily linked throughout the site, and reveal that he's got a history of antisocial behavior, the most recent threats and attempted extortion only just predating his father's passing (and thereby casting doubt on grounds for his recent grief).

: His best chance is an insanity plea, which is difficult to prove on people who can communicate more clearly then Chris can. Ironically, the clearest indicators -- his beliefs that his creations are real -- may come off as so ludicrous that the plea might get dismissed.

: Failing that, he'll be extremely lucky to get a plea bargain down to some serious community service and probation. Unfortunately for him, his history with Snyder in specific shows how extraordinarily lenient everyone's already been. Any decent prosecutor will insist on such as part of their arguments, and should Chris' previous proud attempts at vehicular assault enter play, he's almost certainly going to have jail time as part of a plea. Even disregarding that, though, I'd be surprised if Chris actually made any efforts should he get probation and community service, as his history shows he'd ignore both, forcing the issue of jail time.

: Sadly enough, that's actually the extent of the good news for him. The bad news is that Chris' pride and arrogance may lead him to refuse any such pleas -- in his mind, he's neither insane nor has any of his behavior ever been anything less than justified -- and worse, he may even try to represent himself. Should that happen, his only real shot is to have Barb legally declare him as incompetent. While at first blush that sounds like it'd lead to him getting off on insanity after all, it'd rely primarily on Barb's testimony to go through -- and Barb's already supported him enough to be his accomplice.

: The primary factors now on whether Chris is going to jail are his county's prison system, his prosecutor's diligence, and how much ridiculous bullshit Chris serves up in his own defense. If he acts out in court, continues his libelous antics outside of it, or submits anything damaging in his "defense," he screws himself to oblivion. Hell, if Snyder comes here, or if someone contacts him and points him our way, the prosecution would have a field day.

: Quite frankly, this is so stacked against him I'm almost of a mind Barb did this intentionally to try to get the state to take custody of him before she dies, too, sad as it is to say.

: [[User:Kestrel|Kestrel]] 00:25, 7 November 2011 (PST)

*None of this is really relevant to the article, so next person who contributes something that doesn't relate to this article gets banned. You can talk about it elsewhere like on [http://cwcki.yuku.com our forums].--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:27, 7 November 2011 (PST)

==Article Title and Redirects==

We need to get a more fitting title set up as well as some redirects. I'm not sure how, exactly... But something like "Arrest" for a redirect. My creative juices are currently burnt out so I leave this all up to you for tonight.
:The subsection regarding the incident on the GAMe PLACe page called it "Strike Three, You're Out!" Something along those lines, perhaps?--[[User:Henry Bemis|Henry Bemis]] 22:16, 6 November 2011 (PST)
:We are a Wiki at the end of the day - and it's less about getting a "fitting" or amusing title, and more about getting a sensible one. I chose this one based on other articles about specific events (mostly significant videos that were not given a particularly unique name by Chris). "Keep It Simple" is the golden rule here, so any renames should be both simple and yet, unique enough for people to be easily able to find it. I'm totally open to better suggestions for the article title though, as I said near the top of this discussion page. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 03:17, 7 November 2011 (PST)

==Where==
Did someone know exactly where the trial will take place (ie some court on Chalottesville i presume)
[[User:René Duprée|René Duprée]] 10:25, 7 November 2011
*[http://www.courts.state.va.us/courts/circuit/Charlottesville/home.html Charlottesville Circuit Court] most likely? The circuit court has jurisdiction over all felonies and that is where a jury trial would be held. Unfortunately on their [http://wasdmz2.courts.state.va.us/CJISWeb/circuit.html case lookup] page, that court isn't in the list. [[User:Penman28|Penman28]] 09:55, 8 November 2011 (PST)
*Considering that the charges are filed under "Charlottesville General District Court" I'm gonna guess thats where things are going down. --[[User:KillDeer|KillDeer]] 10:49, 8 November 2011 (PST)

== Chris's Account ==

Is it worth mentioning anything about this "CWC Michael Snyder Interview"? I looked it up on youtube and it's originally from 2010; so it's not really recent, nor does it pertain to anything Chris is talking about. He doesn't even say he wants to lore Chris into the Place; he actually says "We have a Pokemon Tournament the 22nd, I really hope Chris doesn't try to show up... That'd be really bad." I guess what I'm getting at is this: would it be worth putting in a small summary about the video Chris is saying will get him off the hook? Or do we just leave it and if people want to see it they can look it up themselves? (I really wish we could get Mr. Snyder's accounts of the happenings as well, just to compare the two.) --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 10:37, 9 November 2011 (PST)

I removed that section since it isn't 100% confirmed to be Chris yet (and in the case he does - he reads the Wiki). If it gets re-added I'd say just link it and add a Wiki page if there isn't already. --[[User:Drpepper|Drpepper]] 14:15, 9 November 2011 (PST)

== Removed the email ==

I went ahead and removed the halfsie-confirmed email I posted in the forums, since it's not fully confirmed to be by Chris and just not someone from Inner/PVCC in-the-know (and for the agent's sake). Just reverse if nobody gives a fuck. --[[User:Drpepper|Drpepper]] 14:11, 9 November 2011 (PST)
* I do believe that someone said "Tito and champthom just confirmed that some events match up". So maybe keep it but add some kind of disclaimer saying we don't have Christian Weston Chandler's confirmation; but some highly reliable sources can confirm that events match up?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 15:52, 9 November 2011 (PST)

Either way, the fact that Chris reads the Wiki remains and leaving the email up compromises a field agent, and genereal consensus is on the forums (in that topic) is that we keep it down until later. PVCC trolls have also asked that it doesn't go up yet on /cwc/. --[[User:Drpepper|Drpepper]] 16:19, 9 November 2011 (PST)

*There is truth to it, I will tell you that, but I'd prefer it if someone can say something solid about it as in "This is from Chris 100%." I suppose we could leave it with a disclaimer that "According to Tito, this is true" so people can interpret it however they'd like, but I'd prefer that we wait until we can get a solid confirmation about it.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:50, 9 November 2011 (PST)

** I'm more concerned with it impacting operations. I don't want to interfere with any plans already in play... I say keep it down until we get confirmation that saga is over --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 23:22, 9 November 2011 (PST)

We do get information such as emails from offical channels, so I support the motion to omit the material that was added from the article for the timebeing until we are sure of a reliable source. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:50, 10 November 2011 (PST)
:This is still our stance for now - we await further verifiable evidence that this account is verbatim what Chris said. /cwc/ and ED are not reliable enough sources. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 15:29, 17 November 2011 (PST)

== End of the world ==

If Chris is sentenced in December 2011, next month, that means that if he receives the minimum sentence for his felony count, that means that he will get out of prison on December 2012, the same time that the world is supposed to end. How interesting. --[[User:TheJerk|TheJerk]] 12:56, 12 November 2011 (PST)
:Eh - it's sort of interesting in a theoretical way. Speaking of theories - they don't belong on article talk pages. Please use the links at the top of this talk page to find better places for pointing out or discussing similar things. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 13:48, 12 November 2011 (PST)

== GAME PLACe ==

The PLACe has changed names now, should we be using the new name in this article I think so, or ate least referred to as "Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys (Formorly The GAMe PLACe)" for accuracy
[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 13:44, 22 November 2011 (PST)
:I think in this case, similar to Chris' vs Chris's, established convention ought to take precedence over accuracy. I don't think the majority of people would know what "Cville's Hobbies, Games and Toys" is, and I don't think there's much need for them to know the new name. The rename probably deserves a mention in the relevant article, but I don't think everything needs to be readjusted. If Chris ever starts referring to the store explicitly by its new name, renaming things might make it easier on readers, but until then, I don't think it's really beneficial. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 13:52, 22 November 2011 (PST)
:*Totally agree Freecell. It definitely should be mentioned in the article, but a name change would just complicate things. And for some reason, I have a really weird feeling that Chris would never call it anything other than "The PLACe". --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:51, 22 November 2011 (PST)

== Court Liaison??? ==

Is there anybody who is planning on going to the courthouse on December 15th in order to document Chris and Snorlax's appearances for us? Perhaps a live blog of the proceedings would be in order? Just saying. --[[User:Osideguy92|Osideguy92]] 20:56, 11 December 2011 (PST)
*Check the CWCki Forum.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 18:03, 12 December 2011 (PST)

== Rob Bell article needed ==

We need to have an article here on the CWCki about Bell's involvement in the court cases. His involvement in all this is too minor for the other sites. --[[User:Munch Banchibokkusu|Munch]] 21:01, 19 December 2011 (PST)
:All we know about him is that he's representing Chris in court. Unless there's more info out there (such as why he's representing Chris; was he court-appointed or hired by Barb) then I don't see why we should give him his own article. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:38, 19 December 2011 (PST)
:We already deleted an article that was created for Rob Bell as we currently don't have enough information on him* to warrant a solo article. For now, any things about him relevant to this case can be documented on this article.
:(*and no, this isn't a call for people to go digging for information on him - we should keep all details on the CWCki related to either Chris or the court case.) --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 06:09, 20 December 2011 (PST)
::we know this:
::"Rob Bell is an honors graduate of the University of Virginia and the University of Virginia Law School. At the Law School, Mr. Bell served as the Executive Editor of the Virginia Law Review and was selected for the Order of the Coif.

::Mr. Bell served for five years as a state prosecutor in Orange County, Virginia. During this time he prosecuted thousands of criminal and traffic cases.

::In 2001, Mr. Bell was elected to the Virginia General Assembly as the Delegate from the 58th District. As Delegate, he serves on the Courts for Justice Committee and the Virginia State Crime Commission. He has authored numerous criminal laws, including laws dealing with drunk driving, sex crimes, and criminal procedure.

::Mr. Bell joined Davidson & Kitzmann in 2005 and tries cases in all state and federal courts.

::His wife, his son Robbie, and his daughter Evelyn live in Albemarle County."
::http://www.dklawyers.com/bio_rbell.htm
::and this http://www.nbc29.com/story/16202740/rob-bell-enters-attorney-general-race [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 09:52, 20 December 2011 (PST)
:::Cool. Anything on him relevant to Chris? No? Well okay then. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 10:17, 20 December 2011 (PST)

::::He is Chris's lawyer, he deserves a stub. more info will come.. The actual trial should give us some information. besides http://sonichu.com/cwcki/Special:ShortPages [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:50, 20 December 2011 (PST)
:::::No he doesn't - not a this time. I have spoken. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 10:52, 20 December 2011 (PST)

== Does this saga have a name? ==

If not i would call it the "Attack on C-Ville (or CWC-Ville) saga.. Is this even a saga? it certainly meets what i would think are the criteria. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 12:14, 3 January 2012 (PST)
* I'd say it's a part of the ongoing GAMe PLACe Saga. --[[User:SonichuLives|SonichuLives]] 13:32, 3 January 2012 (PST)
** ok the reason i ask is that the graphic for the saga page (and the page itself) needs to be updated to include 2012 stuff[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 07:49, 4 January 2012 (PST)

== So what happened on Jan 5? ==

--[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 17:06, 6 January 2012 (PST)

== Protection Order ==

Should it be mentioned in the article what the Protection Order does? Or should we just link it to a definition? A Protection Order for Snyder means that Chris will no longer (for the duration of the order) visit Snyder's place of business, Chris will no longer be able to talk with Snyder, he will no longer be allowed to threaten Snyder in any way (even through internet means), and he will not be able to basically do anything else that involves Snyder (this includes using his name on sites like Facebook). IF Chris is caught doing any of these prohibited things, it can be considered a civil OR criminal offense and Chris will be given a jail/prison sentence along with a fine. I'm thinking this is a very important development for the Chris/Snyder relationship; but I'm not sure if we should directly reference the Protection Order in this article. Thoughts? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:59, 6 April 2012 (PDT)

*That would depend on what priorities take precedence. We could: 1. elaborate rather deeply on the subject and inform CWCki readers right now; or 2. wager Chris and/or Barb don't know about what is entailed, and omit this information in hopes that these penalties will be realized. I personally favor the former myself. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 15:10, 6 April 2012 (PDT)

== Time to split ==

This article either needs a new name, or its time to split it. October 28 2011 has long past and the events of THAT day are DONE. This article seemed like the best place to have all the court info at first but with all the continuances and stuff happening between then and now, this has become more of a saga and i think it should be treated as such. 'Court Saga' is a better name, its more open and less date specific. This article spans 7 months yet it bears as its title a single date in October of 2011. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 04:55, 10 April 2012 (PDT)
: Nothing has been done about this yet, i suggest that the event be given a name and that information about this event be split. One page for the events of that day (this one) and a second page that outlines the court the entire situation. Otherwise it may be easier to just rename this article to something that is more fitting for a page that deals with more than just one date. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 11:16, 11 April 2012 (PDT)

Pedofork

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Slimz: Insult removed

{{quote|I am not a Pedofork, YOU DORKS!!!|[[CWC's Second Message]]}}

A '''pedofork''' ([ˈpɛdofɔrk]), a portmanteau of "[[Wikipedia:pedophile|pedophile]]" and "dork", is [[Chris]]'s term for a '''pedophile''' (''pædophile'' to non-Americans), child molester, or anyone else with some sort of sexual interest in the underage. This term was coined in his [[Captain's Log, Stardate August 3rd, 2008|Madman Rising]] video in response to [[trolls]] comparing Chris to "that senile old man in ''[[Family Guy]]''," known to the rest of the world as "[[Wikipedia:List of characters in Family Guy#Herbert|Herbert the Pervert]]."

Suffice to say, this was one of Chris's first over-reactions to [[trolls]] and an early step towards becoming a LOLcow. Chris has subsequently tried to remove or [[retcon]] out details or themes that could be viewed as borderline or outright pedophilia from his [[Sonichu]] comics, although, with Chris's tendency to be very [[slow in the mind]], [[Zapina|some things]] still manage to remain.

At first glance, Chris appears to rigidly adhere to child sex laws; as the age of consent in Virginia is eighteen, Chris makes it clear when advertising himself for his [[Love Quest]] that all potential [[Boyfriend-free girl|sweethearts]] must be no younger than eighteen (and no older than he is at the time). However, it's likely that Chris doesn't understand ''why'' these laws actually exist and may be seen simply as a deterrent in his Quest, in the same vein as [[Jerkop|Jerkops]] and [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. This is evidenced by a scene in [[Sonichu 8|Sonichu #8]], when the [[Rosechu|Rosechus]] decide to strip for [[Women's rights|women's rights]]. Fourteen-year-old Zapina asks if she can join in all the naked bouncy giggly protesting fun, but [[Rosechu]] tells her no, adding in disappointment that she can't because of those "dumb laws". It seems odd that a self-proclaimed feminist would be annoyed with laws that protect young girls from being manipulated into sexual relationships.

==See also==

{{stub}}

*[[Chris and sex]]
*[[Pedo-glasses]]
*[[Gaybian]]
*[[Women's rights]]

{{CWC-isms}}

[[Category:CWC-isms]]

Talk:Prank calls

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Talk:Prank calls

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{{Not A Forum}}

==When were these recorded?==

Any way of knowing when they were recorded? Obviously, the latest possible date was when they were uploaded to YouTube, but it might be interesting to know what they knew or should've known about when they were on the phone. —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 06:02, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

*the soundboard ones fall are after the kacey and liquid phone call, but the failed attempt and the liquid bob call could fit mostly anywhere in christory. Besides that there is no way to know when these were recorded.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 20:23, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

== Well at least we gained something of value ==

Based on one of these calls, the Chandlers have one of those phones that lights up instead of rings so they're not quite as bothered with the constant calls. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:11, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

== About the pranks that should be included in this page ==
* I think the only pranks that should be placed up in these pages should be the relevant ones and the ones directed at the chandler home only, so the Mary lee walsh Cole and the unsuccessful troll screaming "julaaaaaay" video shouldn't be up in this page.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 00:57, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
:* I bet they had quite a few JULAAAAAAAY calls back in the day. Do we need to list the fails amongst the win? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 01:07, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
::Calling the Chandler's up and screaming JULAAAAAAAAY is still funny, so it merits being included *somewhere*. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:09, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
:::*Anyone for splitting the page into two distinct sections? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 01:35, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
: that might be the best if you want, but i added the bob prank calls because of his tendency to yap on, he gave some more info, not like the Michael, Cole and Mary lee Walsh calls.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 04:37, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

* If you add every single prank call using chris chan soundboards you can find in youtube, then this page will be crowded, add only prank calls made to the chandler house.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 13:11, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
:*The ones to People in the chandler household, or major figures in Chris's life (Snyder, Mary Lee Walsh) are pretty relevant. The ones like Chris calling the golden corral and Bob calling the Department of Education are stupid, and have nothing to do with Chris.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 12:07, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
::*I'm now thinking only calls that are referenced by other pages on the CWCki/have info should be put on here. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 21:37, 28 October 2010 (PDT)

== Whistling ==

Are we sure that it was the troll who was blowing the whistle on the Epic Crazy Lady soundboard call? Some people blow a whistle into the phone when they are trying to get a prank caller or a bill collector to stop bothering them. Maybe it was Snorlax.
[[User:Squirrelbait|Squirrelbait]] 16:56, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

No, the part with the whistle was a totally different prank call where the troll used a soundboard of Bob to call a niggo who blew the whistle at Bob. --[[User:Straw|Straw]] 03:37, 6 August 2010 (PDT)

==Call Bobby Chandler==

Does anyone else think that call should get it's own page? I mean, considering it reveals that Bob Chandler may be a member of the KKK, and if not at least has friends who are members, wouldn't it be considered important enough to warrant a page? [[user:Melainia|Melainia]] 14:20, 24 September 2010 (EST)
:Prank calls page is fine IMO. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:33, 24 September 2010 (PDT)
:Frankly I think it's not even worth recording. There's a good chance Bob was just saying that to try and intimidate them. Besides the two were obvious idiots who just wanted e-fame. [[User:Love Paladin|Love Paladin]] 09:15, 26 September 2010 (PDT)

==New CwC Prank Call==
Awhile ago Carlos had all fetishes down including watersports & pretty much anything that didn't sound homo to him, I think we have mirrored the profile that shows all of the fetishes he was game for but just recently i found out he removed them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkLsxL3ShI0 [[User:SurfShackTito|SurfShackTito]] 22:22, 6 November 2010 (PDT)

== Bob Okay With Jews? ==

In the latest PC Assassins call, Bob spoke about Jews and Israelis when the subject came up. He seems to be quite amicable toward [[Michael Snyder|the people]] [[Chris]] hates so much. Bob goes so far as to say they "deserve {the homeland of Israel}" Is this more of the brighter side of him, coming to light? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 18:03, 2 May 2011 (PDT)
*It may be a lesser of two evils thing with the taliban and the like being portrayed in the media.

== Transcribing ==
An entire hour and 7 minutes of the PC Assassins attention whoring and Bob being kindly and old is there for transcribing. I suppose this will be what I do on the CWCki for a while. Unless someone wants to help.
*Also I'd like to know if when transcribing I could just transcribe Chris related talk and timestamp it. There is an excess of 2 hours of Craig being a yes-man and Bob talking about old people's things. [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 09:26, 8 May 2011 (PDT)
::I don't think anyone would complain if you kept it Chris-related, both for your sake and for the sakes of potential readers. Good luck. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 10:40, 8 May 2011 (PDT)

== Where'd they go? ==

There were some other videos of the prank calls done by the PCassassins An Extended Chat With Bobby parts 1-4 (or 5 i think)...Where did they go? I only see episodes one and two... They WERE there up until the 8th of May and the 4th one in particular had some juicy Chris information (No actual Honor Roll and No actual Job in particular). Did they accidentally get deleted or what?? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:39, 9 May 2011 (PDT)
: I just did some looking and it looks like the only parts of the "Episodes" from PCassassins is the first part...not the rest. Some of them (the other parts) are pretty informative about Chris's life as well as how he grew up...though some of them are solely about Bob... Shouldn't we still post them at least??? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:44, 9 May 2011 (PDT)

: The missing parts did not get deleted. We have them set to private and backed up on file, we figured too hold onto them for now until we are ready to release them. --[[User:ThePCassassins|ThePCassassins]] 06:30, 17 May 2011 (PDT)

== Parts Just Died Here ==

One channel was closed on YouTube and now this page lost about a half dozen calls. Has anyone mirrored them? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 13:01, 15 May 2011 (PDT)

==PCAssassins calls==
Problem - most of these calls were making the article REALLY long, when they could easily go in their own article. Other problem - PCASssassins are giant faggots who are clearly trolling Chris for e-fame. Solution - I made a subpage just for them. Yes, it's still a page devoted to them but it's only a subpage. If you people want to argue that they get a regular page, I'd be for that, I am concerned about how they would perceive such a page though, as I don't want drama like there was over "Sonichu: The Animated Series."--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:40, 16 May 2011 (PDT)

Were not trying to receive any E-fame as you put it. We just wanted too prove too you that a couple of outsiders can accomplish something that you could never do.
But yeah a page for us would be great for everyone too get more information on the Chandlers during this Chris dry spell.
[[User:ThePCassassins|ThePCassassins]] 06:13, 17 May 2011 (PDT)
*Harassing a dying man. You two must be really proud of what you have accomplished.--[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 09:28, 18 May 2011 (PDT)
* Yes you are trying to recieve E-fame as Champ put it, you gigantic faggots. I've explained like three times why we could easily accomplish what you do, yet you're too stubborn to admit it because you think you're epin master trolls who are totally sucking amazing never-before heard info out of Bob during a dry spell. We have ''field agents'', most of the information Bob gave you was already known by them (ex. cancer). Bob is gullible, and obviously calling him pretending to be an engineering student is going to get him to yap on over the phone. It doesn't mean you're anything special, anyone can do it. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 12:02, 18 May 2011 (PDT)
*File:1286510923112.gif
Well said you two.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 15:41, 18 May 2011 (PDT)
** No, really, take it to the forums. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 15:42, 18 May 2011 (PDT)

*Uh suck it you massive fags, your nothing more then a bunch of pathetic losers who spend all your time on this shitty site. Judging other videos because of different tactics to retrive info on a subject that everyone is interested. Well I hope you people are enjoying this site, cause in ten years you'll realise you've all wasted your lives onone person, also you mention you have agents in the field and that all the information we got out of Bob you guys already had, I call bullshit. You people are nothing more then then jealous wannabes who get angry at anyone on the outside who is able too get information out of a member of the Chandler family. Some how it seems that you people lost your way and maybe thats why you people always seem too never make any real big updates, no new Chris videos, oh wait the tom-girl photos oh wait those must be new, oh wait a second Chris's hair is so thin and that doesn't look like a wig, how old are those photos? A year maybe two? I haven't seen a site run by such faggots before. But you know what i'm glad our calls aren't on this shitty site at least then I know we accomplished something and thats not being connected too you assholes. Also your all fags. [[User:ThePCAssassins|ThePCAssassins]]
*Not mad at all.[[User:SurfShackTito|SurfShackTito]] 05:14, 21 May 2011 (PDT)
**I'm not sure you guys realise that that isn't the PC Assassins. Just to clarify, it isn't. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 07:20, 21 May 2011 (PDT)

== Calls re-linked ==

I edited the page changing the links of certain calls to play the original uploads. User:Freecell undid this, commenting "Going through calls and changing working links to your own reuploads so you can get more views? That's not really ok."

First of all, I'm not TheGoldenPhone2. Second of all, those ARE TheGoldenPhone2's calls. They are not "re"-uploads. User RachmaninovDESU's video even claims it is not his call.

It's hardly a big deal, but I'm a stickler for giving credit where it's due.
[[User:AndarielHalo|AndarielHalo]] 20:56, 27 August 2011 (PDT)
:Fair enough, my fault. I guess I didn't give it enough thought. I'll remedy this now. Sorry about that. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 21:27, 27 August 2011 (PDT)
::Oh wait, it seems you already did. Anyway, I'll try to keep this in mind in case something like this happens again. Thanks. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 21:29, 27 August 2011 (PDT)

:::S'okay. At some point I'll have to make transcript of the new call I added [[User:AndarielHalo|AndarielHalo]] 08:35, 28 August 2011 (PDT)
:::::There are still calls that are NOT working, have been made private, or have been removed by the user.
Could one of you fine bitches with all the faggy links please fix that shit .. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 11:56, 10 April 2012 (PDT)

Talk:Chris and contests

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Slimz:

Does this meet the standards for a "Chris and..." article?
[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 05:15, 10 April 2012 (PDT)

Talk:Chris and contests

2012-04-10T12:10:19Z

Slimz: questionable article

Does this meet the standards for a "Chris and..." article?

Talk:Chris and...

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Slimz: /* Not a 'chris and' */ new section

==Good idea...==
But where will this link from? --[[User:MissMeg|Miss Meg]] 18:11, 29 September 2011 (PDT)
:Thanks, I might shoe-horn it into a couple of articles. Also, "Chris and..." is perfect for a little template, but it sounds awkward as hell as an article title, especially with piping. I should have chosen a better name. ;_; [[User:Barry|Barry]] 18:38, 29 September 2011 (PDT)
:It compliments the "About this series" guide I created on the navigational template page [[:Template:Chris and]], and so for now I've linked this article at the foot of the template, and also added it to the instructions. Oddly, I just woke up from a slumber - and initially read the second section title as "...his skillet", and I was like WHAT. It's an almost perfect title for that section - so I don't think my misreading of it is going to be a problem for the average reader =) --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 22:02, 29 September 2011 (PDT)

== No. Bad idea. ==
What was the point of this page beyond being a list all the "Chris and..." articles? I would argue that the text summaries here are largely unnecessary, and the template serves the same purpose, and the arguments above about what will link to this page is also valid. As it stands, this page is useless and a waste. Do what I did and write up and improve your article draft in your user space until it serves some kind of purpose, and is not just a page for a page's sake. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:12, 30 September 2011 (PDT)
:Honestly, the article isn't necessary. The Wiki would function perfectly fine without it. But I like the "Chris and..." articles, and back when I was a new to Chris, they were very informative. One thing that always bugged be was the lack of a central "Chris and..." article or redirect, so readers could get a feel for them, sort of like the [[Videos]] page for his numerous videos. Redirecting to a template would be fucking strange, so I made an article hoping it would make it easier for the readers, giving them quick summaries of the topics in an easy-to-access way. It's not the most important article, you're right, but it has some use. [[User:Barry|Barry]] 08:43, 30 September 2011 (PDT)

:I also don't really like this article. When I look at a page, I tend to think "what purpose does this serve?" This page seems to me to just be a larger version of the template.

:"Anger: One of Chris's fatal flaws is his anger."

:So this tells me that the Chris and Anger page is about Chris' anger. How is this more useful than what I would get from seeing the template? From another angle, if I saw something in the "Chris and..." template and couldn't tell what the article would be about from the title (Chris and the industry, for example), I apparently have two options. I can either click on the link and read the article's introduction to get the gist of it, or I can go to THIS article, find and read the section here about the page (which is almost entirely the same as the intro section in the Chris and the industry article, by the way), and THEN decide if I want to read the article. I don't see any advantage to the latter option. Links to this article won't be anywhere the template isn't and it's inferior as a directory. As a consequence, it's ALWAYS less convenient than just going to the appropriate Chris and... article. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 08:40, 30 September 2011 (PDT)
::Appreciate the feedback.
::Having a template, especially one with so many articles in it, without some sort of central article looked weird to me. Maybe I was just sperging out, who knows. I think the main problem, what you're getting at, is this article doesn't do anything particularly well. It has organization, but the template is better for that. It has bare-bones summaries, but the actual articles are better for that. If I flesh out the summaries more so it doesn't feel like an elaborate list, it will be more useful overall. I'm going to fix it then. [[User:Barry|Barry]] 08:50, 30 September 2011 (PDT)
:::I think the best way to use this article would be to address how the different articles interlink. Everything's segregated into lists, but it feels like each line is its own section. If things were better integrated, I think it would be a valuable article. I'll think a bit more on it and see if I can come up with any advice better than "make it better". [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 08:57, 30 September 2011 (PDT)
::::If I can make a suggestion of my own, why don't we turn this page into a disambiguation page? It'll still link to all the articles and very short descriptions will still exist but it won't look unnecessary and full of filler like it does now. I'd have to actually see it in that form to really judge, but I think it would be better than leaving the page as is, and this way it will also fill the role that Barry was talking about; I.e. being a central page for the Chris and series. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 14:26, 30 September 2011 (PDT)
::::::*If I might chime in, I think Freecell has a point, but how about we make this a project/portal page? I've thought about doing it before, but just got reminded of it. It would elaborate on the "Chris and..." series of articles, setting basic parameters, that sort of thing, and then we can use the page as sort of a portal. I'd have to look up how Wikipedia does it but they'll have pages about similar topic things on a page that serves as a launchpad for a topic, and I think something like that might work in this case.

:::::::Good discussion, guys.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:41, 1 October 2011 (PDT)

== A proposal ==

You know, I've thought about this before but after looking at a similar topic wiki, I figured I'd finally get around to posting it here. Now obviously this is a CWC wiki, and topics on it are related to CWC. Therefore, wouldn't it make sense to just drop the "Chris and..." from articles? Now mind you, I started it, as I was trying to mimic Wikipedia but something like that makes sense on Wikipedia. For instance, an article on "Slavery" would be a general article with slavery, and if you want specific examples of people with slavery you might have an article like "Thomas Jefferson and slavery" or "George Washington and slavery" and in a context like Wikipedia, it makes sense. I mean, you need to specify because you're dealing with general stuff. But with us, we're just dealing with Chris. It's safe to assume that if we're going to be discussing, say sex, it would be safe to assume that we're dealing with Chris - I mean, we're not so much interested in Bob's sexuality or Megan's sexuality, namely Chris's (after all, the CWCki is [[CWCki:CWCki_is#CWCki_is_about_Chris|about Chris]]). Therefore, why do we really need to clarify that it's "Chris and sex" as opposed to just "Sex"? As I've said elsewhere, any article here could in theory be a "Chris and..." article. We could very well call [[Bob Chandler]] "Chris and his father" or the page on [[Megan]] "Chris and Megan" but we don't need to clarify it because remember, this is a wiki about Chris.

So what am I proposing? Pretty much we drop the "Chris and..." from these articles. Criteria for making articles could be kept, the template page has pretty good guidelines and has helped make sure that we're not seeing a new "Chris and..." article pop up every day like it used to be. However, as this is a major change to the status quo, I'd like some discussion. Thoughts?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:06, 14 October 2011 (PDT)
:It sounds like a good idea. What would we do with the template though? If we axe the "Chris and" part, a lot of articles would be fair game, ones that never were originally part of it. Maybe remove the "Chris and" and rename the template to "Topics about Chris." I'm a little tired so I'm not sure if I'm making any sense, but it's probably no big deal. Maybe I'm missing something?
:Again it sounds great, it's just that one part that bugs me. [[User:Barry|Barry]] 08:17, 14 October 2011 (PDT)
::*Good question. Something like "Topics about Chris" works, we could still very leave the template as "Chris and...", just dropping the "Chris and..." part from the article name.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:07, 14 October 2011 (PDT)
:::Good idea. :) [[User:Barry|Barry]] 12:42, 15 October 2011 (PDT)
:I'm still mulling the idea. The main thing which sticks out in my mind is - while having ''Chris and...'' prefixed on to each article name at present might seem odd and out of place, some ''Chris and...'' topics would look odd if their title was simply the name given after the ''Chris and...'' prefix. Part of why we have the ''Chris and...'' naming system is because the articles refer to Chris's relations, knowledge or opinions about a topic.
:The solution may simply be to rename some articles - but I feel that if we were to drop the ''Chris and...'' prefix, most if not all articles would need some form of re-write to make them make more sense as a standalone article about that topic. It would be about shaping the articles up to be more of an overview about the subject, which then leads on to how it relates to Chris etc. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 15:18, 14 October 2011 (PDT)

== Not a 'chris and' ==

'Contests' is not a skill and i dont think it even needs a Chris And article