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CWCki talk:Transcription Collective

2010-03-06T06:23:18Z

Stickly: /* YouTube is gonna automatically caption videos */

==To do==

*make neato user box to identify users who are part of the Collective <--- [[Template:Transcriber|Done?]] [[User_talk:Rubidium|37]] [[User:Rubidium|'''Rb''']] [[Special:Contributions/Rubidium|85.468]] 20:38, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
*promote it and stuff.
*have this page serve as a place to discuss meta transcription issues.

Point is, Clyde likes to joke that I need to get transcribing [insert new Chris media here]. But in reality, there's a lot of hard working transcriptionists who manage to transcribe new videos within minutes of them being released. It's something that very much impresses me and what makes CWCki so damn great.

One of the goals should be to utilize such efforts towards completing a lot of unfinished transcripts and to allow for better collaboration on transcription projects.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:07, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

:* As the author of CWCki's style guide (or what's currently passing for one), I figure I'm one of the dudes you're talking about. You can count on me to keep our transcripts stylish. ;3 [[User:Llort|Llort]] 20:06, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

==So is this a good place to discuss color-coding?==
Because I'd like to address that. I personally find it easier to read when we only color the speaker's name instead of his whole chunk of text. It's also easier to see the links that way.

But that's just me.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 05:04, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

:* I've always liked the fully-colored dialogue, but then again, I can't remember the last time I saw a colored-names-only transcript, so it's hard for me to say for sure. [[User:Llort|Llort]] 05:13, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
::*It's here and there. I just did it in Chris's PS3 menu fest. Tell me what you think.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 05:26, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
:::* I think I like full color more, but that may just be familiarity speaking. Colored names with black text certainly does make links more obvious. Neither way is right or wrong, and I guess my opinion is neutral. [[User:Llort|Llort]] 06:11, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
::::*Key thing though should be 1) linking and 2) readability. Light green text on a white background is hard to read, dude. Yes, it's readable but it's not easy on the eyes. Furthermore, Chris as the same blue as links is kinda lame because then it's hard to see links and when I tell people to add links they bitch about "Well how are we suppose to see the links if Chris is dark blue?" There's nothing wrong with some color coding, my problem with this system is that it's putting aesthetics over wikiness and readability. The latter two should take precedence over the former. I think the best solution would be something along the lines of what beat proposes, that is color coded names and black text.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:54, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::* I also prefer the full colour lines. It just makes it easier for me to follow the transcripts. But I do agree it's annoying that Chris is the same colour as links. Would it be better to just not give Chris a colour at all? He's Chris. The whole wiki is about him. I get that different characters need different colours, but Chris is Chris all the way through. I don't think anyone would mind if we just set Chris's (Chris? Chrises? Chris's? I hate apostrophes) colour as "black". As long as there's a clear line where the transcripts start and end, I don't think it would cause any trouble. [[User:Stickly|Stickly]] 12:42, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::*This is a good idea, but the problem is that people use black for "action" like for [[Stress sigh|sighs]] and such. However, if a troll says something that needs an explanatory link, it'll look weird if, say, their text is green and all of a sudden there's a blue link. Beat's treatment of the [[[Father Call]], IMHO, seems to set up a good setup for a new sort of transcription style. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:37, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::* I don't quite get what you mean by the "using black for action text is a problem" since in the [[Father Call]] you link to, all of the text is black and the "action" text is ''still'' black. But after reading through it, I've gotta say I prefer the colour names / black text system now. It looks more... proper, somehow. I'll put some work in later and change the [[Alec benson leary calls]] over to the "coloured names / black text" thing. I'll do them in one diff so they're easy to revert if anyone disagrees later. I'll try to make the use of action text more uniform too. [[User:Stickly|Stickly]] 16:42, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::* Okay I realised that just going through everything and changing it without checking with anyone first was kind of an asshole thing to do, so I just did the [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 1|first one]] since Alec's colour was wrong and needed changing anyway. If people agree that it's better I'll do the rest. It went a lot faster than I thought it would because I forgot about the "find and replace" tool in word. [[User:Stickly|Stickly]] 17:55, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

== Segmenting transcripts. ==

I think that we need to consider splitting transcripts into subsections whenever the audio goes on for longer than 30 minutes. Most of the Alec Benson Leary calls are pretty long, some of the mumble chats go on forever, and the Father call goes past the 2 hour mark. There are a couple of transcripts that do this, such as Emily date and Mumble 1. I'm going to try and add similar breaks to some of the other very long transcripts, probably starting with the longer ALB calls. Someone let me know if I fuck up too badly.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 22:31, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
:* I liked the way that [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] and I ended up handling [[Liquid and Kacey Call]]. (Although I never did get around to finishing all of my intended editing for that page.) Other methods may work just as well. [[User:Llort|Llort]] 01:50, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

== March is Mumble Month ==

If there is one major task on the CWCki, it's to finish transcribing unfinished transcriptions. Yes, it's not easy to transcribe Mumble chats and stuff. However, given that we were able to get a two hour [[Father Call]] transcribed within a day of it being released is no excuse for having nearly year old Mumble chats still unfinished. These provide gold in terms of information about Chris and until they're transcribed, they're not being fully utilized.

I recall someone being like "But Champthom, why don't we just leave the summaries since no one will want to read the whole transcript?" To that I say BULLSHIT. The problem with summaries is that they essentially reflect the opinion of what is important of whoever summarizes them. They're still good to have if people are really lazy but if someone wants to read the transcript, they should be able to do so so they can draw their own conclusions about the given chat.

So I declare March to be Mumble transcription month, with the goal being to transcribe the Mumble chats by the end of the month. First project with be finishing transcribing [[Mumble 2]]. Those who contribute will get a SUPER DUPER SPECIAL user box for their page, I swear.

So get at it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:16, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
*And to prove I'm not kidding, check out this Medal I rigged in MS Paint:
{{Template:MumbleMedal}}

:Yes friends, it can be yours if you contribute to transcribing the Mumble chats this month. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:33, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

I know it's not a Mumble, but the 90-minute audio recording of the [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript|Emily Date]] badly needs transcription help. Currently, only random segments are transcribed, covering about half of the full audio. There are still two holes in the middle (one 8 minutes long and one 40 minutes long) and a third hole near the end (only four minutes long). I'm much better at editing transcripts than I am at typing them up, so I'd appreciate it if someone else took the initiative on this one. I've already fixed all of the formatting and pointed out all of the gaps, so the road ahead is clear. TL;DR: PLZ TRANSCRIBE DIS BITCH!! [[User:Llort|Llort]] 04:57, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
*As I said on the Bob Chandler page, thank you for bringing this to my attention, personally. I didn't notice that the entire date has not been transcribed when this is a crucial transcript which, for starters, has vital information about Bob. Mumble chats are important, but it is important we finish transcribing this.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:39, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Let's call it "March Mumble Madness." --[[User:Munch Banchibokkusu|Munch]] 05:37, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
*I like it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:39, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

== YouTube is gonna automatically caption videos ==

[http://www.mercurynews.com/google/ci_14514072 Srsly]. Now there's like, no reason to transcribe stuff. All we really have to do then is transcribe stuff like released audio, and to smooth out any glitches from the voice recognition software that YouTube is gonna used. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:13, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
:"any video that meets sound and technical quality standards" - I don't think any of Chris's videos will meet those. Some of the videos already auto transcribed are pretty bad, like [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJgbVrFasxk this one] --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 03:00, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
::It'll make transcribing easier, sure, but I actually like reading the transcripts over watching the videos. The less I have to hear of Chris's grating voice, the better. I realize this may seem odd considering how many videos I've transcribed. My goal is to make sure nobody ever has to watch a Chris-Chan video twice.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:14, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
:::Let's not get too excited, folks. Judging by that DPF video, it looks like YouTube's speech recognition software only manages about 20% accuracy, which is - needless to say - horrendous. What's worse: that video has better audio quality for the software to work from than do virtually all of Chris's videos and all of the leaked audio recordings. Therefore, human transcription will be needed for a very long time to come, chums. [[User:Llort|Llort]] 04:42, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Plus Chris speaks so badly that any voice recognition program, even the best around, is going to have trouble understanding him. They require pretty clear diction even after you "train" them for a few months. Chris's speech impediments and stutters are going to throw any auto captioning into disarray. The results should be funny, though. [[User:Stickly|Stickly]] 06:23, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Surfshack Tito (video)

2010-03-03T15:48:20Z

Stickly:

BITCH TRANSCRIBED. That was easy.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 05:08, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

We need a pic of Tito from "Rocket Power."--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:17, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Is there any context to this? [[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 05:25, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Wait, seriously, what? This was the most unexpected video I've ever seen. So unexpected, in fact, that I'm motivated to make my first post on this here CWCki. Can we please get some kind of context? --[[User:Ronfredricks|Ronfredricks]] 15:45, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I guess... Chris is sending his dead dog into people's dreams to harvest their souls? Like a canine Freddy Kreuger. [[User:Stickly|Stickly]] 15:48, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

CWCki talk:Transcription Collective

2010-03-02T17:55:25Z

Stickly: /* So is this a good place to discuss color-coding? */

Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 1

2010-03-02T17:51:39Z

Stickly: Trying a different transcript colour system thing, revert if you don't like it

[[Image:PenAndPaperHaveCharacter.jpg|thumb|This is what Chris actually believed.]]

'''Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 1''' is the first call between [[Chris]] and [[Asperchu|Alec]], which took place on 22 January 2010.

==Summary==

Chris and Alec discuss the size and location of [[Asperpedia]] advertisements on the [[CWCipedia]]. Chris tries to dictate the content of Alec's [[Asperchu]] comics by telling him to tone down the amount of violence in the series. He also goes on to tell Alec to rename Asperchu's versions of the Chaotic Combo characters to the names seen in Sonichu 10.

Alec questions how Chris can hold a copyright on [[Sonichu]] when Sonichu is in fact a [[Pokemon]], a derivative of another creator's copyrighted work, after which Chris jumps to change the subject to avoid admitting that Alec has a point. (Chris similarly avoids or ignores the obvious truth about his "original" characters in other conversations with Alec.) Alec also confronts Chris's ill-will towards Asperchu and Alec himself by bringing up the pages of [[Sonichu 10]] where Chris drew his super-form breaking into Alec's house and destroying his website and computer. Chris retaliates by saying that Alec's killing of his fictional characters in Asperchu justifies his fantasies of committing destruction of property and theft. Chris becomes increasingly [[stress|stressed out]] as the call goes on and eventually hangs up on Alec with a quick goodbye.

==Video==

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===Transcript===

 '''Alec''': Hi, is this... is this, uh, Christian Weston Chandler?

 '''Chris''': Yeah, this is Christian, may I help you?

 '''Alec''': Hi Chris, um... this is Alec Benson Leary. Is it-Is it okay if we talk?

 '''Chris''': Oh yes. Uh... Sure. yes. So uh...

 '''Alec''': Good. Well, uh, there's a couple of things I wanted to talk about tonight. Um, first of all, uh... Well I understand you've got... you've got a problem with the ads that are on [[CWCipedia]]? Can you... Can you tell me a little more about um... I kinda want to have, you know, get a compromise and settle this 'cause... 'cause I don't... I don't want anybody to be angry.

 '''Chris''': Okay yeah. I'll let you have your ads on the CWCipedia but don't make them too big, and uh, leave 'em in the side bar.

 '''Alec''': Okay... um...

 '''Chris''': [''Interrupts] I don't want-I don't want-I do not want them in-I do not want them c... c... covering over... the introductory box or any-or anything else where I have to scroll down even to edit the pages. Or even to log in.

 '''Alec''': Okay, um. Well I understand

 '''Chris''': So- so Okay cool. Just keep your ads on the sidebar.

 '''Alec''': Yeah my friend [[Asperchu|Mao]], he um, he actually makes the ads for me. I didn't make them myself but I can try to talk to him about that. About the size.

 '''Chris''': Okay. Alright.

 '''Alec''': As for like, where on the CWCipedia, they are, I don't know if Mao controls that or not, I don't think he does. I think... I'm not sure what controls like where the adspace goes, you know. I mean, I'll talk to Mao about it but I'm not sure if he controls that either.

 '''Chris''': Yeah. Okay.

 '''Alec''': Yeah like, I can talk to him. But you might want to talk to your web manager or whatever, Cuz they set up the way the adspace goes, you know?

 '''Chris''': Yeah, and also, just uh, just one more concern of mine upon- uh, yeah, I've uh, read your pages on the Asperchu comic. But the-and the recent pages, what do you think you're doing- what do you think you- what do you think you're parodying, [[Wikipedia:Happy Tree Friends|Happy Tree Friends]]?

 '''Alec''': Um... What's happy tree friends? What's that?

 '''Chris''': [''Sighs''] It's supposed to be like a happy TV-Y show, but it's actually- it's actually adult dark humor because they go into cut-slashing all the cute characters up and uh, it's- well all the blood and gore and everything, and yet they make them come- they make them come back to life unharmed in the very next episode, just to slice and dice em up again.

 '''Alec''': Oh. Um, I've actually never heard of that series. What is, is that on cartoon network or...

 '''Chris''': [''Talking over Alec''] ye- yeah... no you can look it up on netflix.

 '''Alec''': Oh.

 '''Chris''': Yeah that's a good place. But anyway, blood and gore. Yeah, that's not a good way to go, especially when you killed, even- even considerable facsimiles of my own characters in that sense, and in that detail.

 '''Alec''': Well you know, um, I actually- I got a lot of uh, actually positive response from my fans when I did that. Because you know, some of my fans [''trails off as Chris interrupts.'']

 '''Chris''': Yeah, yeah, that's another thing. Yeah that's another thing. Encourage the fans that were originally my fans to come back to me. I would appreciate that.

 '''Alec''': Uh, Well I, I mean, you know I tell my fans all about you all the time Chris, because, you know, like I've told you in a lot of the letters I've written to you you were a big inspiration to me. You know, I don't really know what to say to my fans as far as that goes. They uh, they love my comic. I get a lot, I get a '''lot''' of fanmail about it.

 '''Chris''': Yeah, okay. Umm okay how about this, uh, just to make it equal, um, put an advertisement for the CWCipedia on uh, on the Asperpedia. About as much as the Asperpedia ads are on my CWCipeida.

 '''Alec''': Um, well um yeah, we might be able to work something out, you know, you'd probably want to contact Mao, cuz he's my manager he does all the grunt work on Asperpedia. Um, I'm not even sure what how selling the adspace works but I'm sure he'd be willing to sell you some adspace on Asperpedia we could definitely try to work something like that out.

 '''Chris''': So basically... alright well, alright well Mao and I can talk through E-mail.

 '''Alec''': Yeah, yeah. Yeah cuz, you can- I mean, like I said I don't know the details but I know adspace is up for purchase so...

 '''Chris''': Yeah. Alright. Then we got settled on at least on, your ads on my CWCipedia. And yeah, ease up on the- not so much blood and gore. And try to uh, bring my fans, uh, redirect my fans back to me.

 '''Alec''': Um... well you know uh... I'm trying to think of a good way to say this, but you know, we are in kind of a friendly competition if you will. You know we, we're both [[Chris and Art|artists]], kind of. I mean, it doesn't really make sense for an artist to say to his fans, "Hey guys, don't follow me anymore, go back to this other artist". I mean, would you do that for your fans? Would you say "Hey fans, go talk to Alec" or "go watch Alec's cartoon" or anyone else's cartoon I mean really? No you want the fans to follow you.

 '''Chris''': Um. Okay, um. Okay yeah I can understand that um, okay, um.

 '''Alec''': Yeah, Mm-hmm.

 '''Chris''': Well since, well since you and I are on- are on okay agreeing mutual- okay talking tones right now.

 '''Alec''': Mmm-hmm?

 '''Chris''': How about I, uh, How about I just remove all the bad talk I have against you, and then start saying that, start saying that you're okay, that your comic is okay, that and uh, you know, but still saying that your, like you know I would appreciate it if you would stay being my fans, but if you want to go look at his work, that's fine I can't stop you there, but you know.

 '''Alec''': Well actually, I'm glad that you're bringing this up because, um, I do say we're on friendly terms and I'd like to keep it that way because, you know, I got my start because of you, um, but to be honest, I want to be honest and frank with you.

 '''Chris''': Mm. Mm.

 '''Alec''': Um, you made a couple of videos. And I don't watch all your videos but I do try to keep up, I mean I spend a lot of time drawing the comics, so I don't have a lot of time to watch videos anymore but um, I saw a couple of [[Asperchu is a Horrendous Joke|videos]] where you, uh, you actually threatened me with uh, physical...

 '''Chris''': [''Chris interrupts''] Umm, yeah. Okay well...

 '''Alec''': [''Trying to talk''] Yeah that didn't make me [''unintelligible'']

 '''Chris''': [''Talking over Alec''] I was uh, I was, well I was more angry back then because it was an immediate, uh, response, but now things have settled down and we're talking, I can-I can make a new video saying like, you know, I apologize for those threats, and uh, that things are okay here.

 '''Alec''': Okay and, and about you um-also the video where you...you wanted [[Patti Chandler|your dog]] to eat me, or something like that, you-your dog to eat my soul, I mean that-well the [[death threats]] were kind of scary to begin with, but that, that was just a [''unintelligible'']

 '''Chris''': Okay yeah, well I'll take-I'll take that back as well, I'm sorry.

 '''Alec''': And, and um, that kind of leads me into another point, um you, you're under the impression that I was, that I was besmirching your dog in my comic, and I'm not really sure what you mean by that. Could you explain to me?

 '''Chris''': Okay well, the villain, the dog in your comic, it looks-it looks similar to my dog, especially around the green neckerchief and the other parts that are green on that dog. And the, and the shape of the dog, just looked like my dog.

 '''Alec''': Well it's just a-a lot of dogs look like that, Chris, I mean a lot of..it-it's just a neckerchief, I mean it's just a little flair for the dog. That doesn't mean it's your dog.

 '''Chris''': Yeah.

 '''Alec''': I think honestly you make that assumption with a lot of my characters, it seems like you think that a lot of my characters were you know, like ripping off your characters, or even you yourself, because you said that Asperchu was...

 '''Chris''': Yeah, [[Obesity|Buddha belly]] and the [[Muscle bra|manboobs]], the [[Pedo-Glasses|glasses]]...

 '''Alec''': Well I mean, Chris, you're...

 '''Chris''': Oh, and the [[Love quest|sweetheart search]] thing and the [[Crystal Weston Chandler|future daughter]].

 '''Alec''': Well I mean, Asperchu's not a [[parody]], Chris, I mean he's an original creation.

 '''Chris''': Okay.

 '''Alec''': You know just because he has the glasses, the Buddha belly, and the-and the manboobs, and the goatee, you know, that doesn't make him a parody, I mean that's...And besides you said you had the [[McDonald's|fast food]], I mean, how could it be a parody of you if, if your belly is [''unintelligible due to Chris talking over him'']

 '''Chris''': If I-if I, you, you mean if I [[Lie|currently do not have the Buddha belly]].

 '''Alec''': Well, exactly, so Asperchu can't be a parody of you, right?

 '''Chris''': Okay. Well...

 '''Alec''': I mean, doesn't that-that makes sense to me, doesn't that make sense to you?

 '''Chris''': Okay, I s-yeah, that's fine.

 '''Alec''': I mean, it's just a little-it seems-it seems a little [[naïve]] to think that Asperchu and everything are parodies of your char-I mean, I do include some of your characters in the comic, and those-those-my original characters are purely original. Asperchu...nothing about Asperchu is a parody. [''Chris tries to interrupt, but Alec continues.''] And actually-actually, I'd kind of like you to issue your retraction video to, to um, let everyone know that Asperchu is original and is not a parody in any way. Or if there are-oh, and, and you did mention that I don't have a disclaimer on my comics, but uh, that made me think I should create a disclaimer and so I did, so if there are any elements that look parodic, I'm covered.

 '''Chris''': Yeah, okay, yeah. And also, yeah, you definitely do reference my [[Sonichu]] and my [[CWCville]] and especially the [[Chaotic Combo]] recently.

 '''Alec''': Well as you said those weren't yours, you said those were copies. You said those were just, you know, copies of...

 '''Chris''': Y-y-y-your versions are just recreational-recreation-recreated facsimiles. Okay so let's agree to that...

 '''Alec''': [''Trying to speak''] Can I ask-can I ask you something about the Chaotic Combo and Sonichu? Yeah, those were just facsimiles, those weren't really yours...

 '''Chris''': No they were-no, they were all mine-actually they were all mine. They were all-they were originally mine.

 '''Alec''': But, the ones that I drew, were those facsimiles or are those not?

 '''Chris''': Uhh...okay well...

 '''Alec''': Because you, in your comic, you came and you took them away, in your-in your recent pages of your comic. I mean you said in-you said in the comics that those were mine, but, you know, so they must be original, right? [''Chris tries to interrupt, but Alec continues.''] You said in the comic they weren't the Chaotic Combo, so they must be original. But then you came and took them. I-I don't get that, and you renamed them and re-restyled them.

 '''Chris''': [''finally manages to break in''] Listen, listen, okay. The Chaotic Combo, in my comics, appeared before Book number 10, and originated in CWCville, Virginia, not in Minnesota, those are originally mine. But the ones that you re-drew and then made them different from how they originally were, in my comic, then that's definitely-that's totally fax-facsimiles...

 '''Alec''': Mine? Then, why did you take them?

 '''Chris''': Okay, well I mean-okay number one-

 '''Alec''': And not just the Combo, you tried to retake my Asperchu. And Asperchu wasn't, you know, a copy of anything. You-you renamed him [[Mitch Sonichu]]. I mean, Asperchu's mine. You-I don't really appreciate that.

 '''Chris''': Hm.

 '''Alec''': You know, you accuse me of thievery, but then you go and take-and try to take my Asperchu.

 '''Chris''': Okay well you did-you did take my Sonichu, and you did claim him to be the original one, and you did claim orig-you did make it obvious in your comics where he was the original one, from the city of CWCville, and even worse you made him brother to Asperchu, and uh, with the homosexual tendencies and whatnot, even when you drew the Chaotic Combo you made [[Wild]] a [[Homos|homosexual]] even when he is not.

 '''Alec''': Well, but Wild's not yours, what does it matter if, if my Wild's gay? I thought there was-I thought there was depth to the character, I was just trying to give them a little personality. And the homosexual references, okay this is something that came up before...

 '''Chris''': Okay well listen, okay well aside from the [''unintelligible''] Sonichu-

 '''Alec''': Asperchu has a girlfriend, Dixie Chu.

 '''Chris''': No actually, I read further in the book and Dixie Chu dumped his ass.

 '''Alec''': She doesn't-she doesn't-she doesn't-no, she doesn't mean that, she doesn't mean that. They're, they're destined to be together, Chris, I mean, can't you see those undertones? I mean that's-that's where this whole comic is going. And besides, he's shown he's straight, I mean even if a girl does dump him, what does it matter? He went after a girl. He didn't go after a boy. Like you said, Sonichu is his brother, why would he...you know, even if he was gay why would he go for his brother? That's just-that's just sick.

 '''Chris''': [''Sigh''] Yeah, I mean anyway-okay well listen, how about this, in your comics, when you, uh, in the future, or in re-or re-referencing the past pages, the Sonichu that is Asperchu's brother, you just refer to him as Michael, and the Wild you'd refer to him as Bobby, and the [[Angelica]] Trisha, et cetera, just like I said in my pages. And Mitch can be Asperchu's nickname.

 '''Alec''': But Chris, those aren't really their characters' names. I mean, Bobby and Mitch and-and, I forget the other names, I think you renamed [[Bubbles]] "Kitty" or something like that, I mean those aren't, those aren't their names.

 '''Chris''': Okay but, okay but you see when I gave the Chaotic Combo characters those names, originally, in my books, those would be their nick-those would be their nicknames, just, I mean-they're all Sonichus and Rosechus individually, but they're just different types, like uh, without the nickname, Wild, he would be Grass Sonichu, Bubbles would be Water Rosechu, Flying Rosechu, [[Punchy|Fighting Sonichu]], [[Magi-chan|Psychic Sonichu]]...

 '''Alec''': Okay, I understand what you're saying, but well see there's one of the differences, though, because in my comic, those are really their names, I mean, you know, Angelica, Punchy, Bubbles, Magi-chan...

 '''Chris''': No no, you see, but those are actually their names in MY book. In my book.

 '''Alec''': Their nicknames, you said. In my comic they're their actual names. That's the difference.

 '''Chris''': No, I'm talking in reference to the [[Pokemon]] game, you know, if you wanted to na-if you wanted to give-if you wanted to name your Bulbasaur, they call it giving it a nickname, but really it's just giving them their NAME. So, therefore, the grass Sonichu in my book is Wild, the water Rosechu in my books are Bubbles, et cetera, et cetera, so-

 '''Alec''': You know, Chris-

 '''Chris''': It would work better if you just take the nickna-the uh, names I suggested for your variations of those characters and just reference to them as such.

 '''Alec''': Chris, um, my characters aren't Pokemon, I don't draw Pokemon, that's not how it works in my comic.

 '''Chris''': Y-yeah you have been drawing Pokemon, Sonichu is an electric hedgehog Pokemon.

 '''Alec''': I thought he was a Sonichu, I mean-

 '''Chris''': Sonichu is an electric hedgehog Pokemon. If you read back in my Book Number Zero, I make it perfectly clear that Sonichu and Rosechu are electric hedgehog Pokemon.

 '''Alec''': Um, oh, okay. Well, I think the point of confusion there is, um, where their-like, I've never seen any Poke Balls in your comic, or trainers, or any of those other Pokemon elements, you know? Like, shouldn't they live in Poke Balls?

 '''Chris''': Yes, there's a Poke Ball that specially catches Sonichus and Rosechus called the S-Chu Ball, and there is a reference to that within the book, the crystals were the [[Sonichu Ball]] crystals, before I renamed them Chaotic Crystals, and we do have a train-we have two trainers. Naitsirhc was a Pokemon trainer, he had a Zapdos, he had a red Gyarados, he had a Mewtwo...

 '''Alec''': But Chris, those are-those are like Zapdos, and Mewtwo, and Gyarados, I mean does anyone-Sonichu lives in a house, doesn't he, I mean he lives like a person-

 '''Chris''': Yeah, yeah, okay well you see, he was originally a wild Pokemon in the original Sonichu, but the original Rosechu was originally a Raichu that was caught and trained by the Pokemon trainer Kellie, [[Kel]] for short.

 '''Alec''': But, they live on their own now, I mean when they became Sonichu and Rosechu, they're-they're people, right? I mean they live like people, they have jobs like people, Sonichu has a job doesn't he? I mean, what does he do?

 '''Chris''': Yeah well you see, in that case, Kel wanted to move on with her Pokemon trainer career, but Rosechu and Sonichu wanted to live happy, individual lives, so upon realizing that, Kel just let them go, just like Ash released his Butterfree so he can go mate with the pink Butterfree.

 '''Alec''': Oh. Well I uh, I actually didn't know any of that. But I di-I digress, um, the point is-the point is that Asperchu and my version of the Chaotic Combo, all those characters, those are not Pokemon in my comics, I mean, Pokemon don't exist in the world of Asperchu. Because, you see, like Asperchu, he lives in his grandparent's house, he is a person.

 '''Chris''': Hm. Yeah, okay well my-

 '''Alec''': [''overlapping''] My Sonichu is a person, my Chaotic Combo are people...

 '''Chris''': Okay well, okay, alright, but that still makes it sound like my characters when you talk about THE Sonichu from Cwcville...

 '''Alec''': They're not your characters, we've established that. They're not yours, I mean, they're my characters. [''Trying to talk over Chris''] Original. My comic is not a parody.

 '''Chris''': Okay, Sonichu and Rosechu, I actually have paper-registered copyrights on those so I COULD sue you, but I'm trying to resolve this peacefully.

 '''Alec''': You have-okay, so you have the copyright-

 '''Chris''': Yeah, look under the copyright section of the-on the CWCipedia. It actually has the scan of the paper from the Virginia Library of Congress as well as the envelope it came in.

 '''Alec''': You have a copyright of Sonichu.

 '''Chris''': Yes.

 '''Alec''': But you said Sonichu's a Pokemon, right, I mean I'm pretty sure Nintendo has the copyright claim to Pokemon

 '''Chris''': Still, it's Sonichu.

 '''Alec''': I mean, I might just wanna contact Nintendo just to make sure everything's okay, to make sure I'm not stepping on their toes.

 '''Chris''': They have been contacted before, and everything's okay, you don't need to do that.

 '''Alec''': But, I mean, well then, how can you hold the copyright to a Pokemon-

 '''Chris''': The Virginia Library of Congress has allowed me-

 '''Alec''': Well, the Virginia Library of Congress, you know, can't tell Nintendo what to do, they can't tell Nintendo to just hand over copyrights to their creations, to just anybody. I mean, you know, Nintendo could take the Virginia Library of Congress to court and say, hey wait a minute, you know, you issued this copyright illegally.

 '''Chris''': [''Massive Stress Sigh.'']

 '''Alec''': It's just the Library of Congress.

 '''Chris''':[[''mumbling unintelligibly'']] Okay look, let's just agree to uh, this is-what we're talking about right now just seems pointless to what we were originally talking about. Let's just agree that,uh-

 '''Alec''': I don't think it's pointless, I mean I'm just trying to establish the...I mean you said you could sue me, I don't want to, you know, just let that go, I mean I don't want to get sued, nobody wants to get sued. I just don't understand how you could sue me-that's what I'm confused on, I mean, you're confusing me, Chris. I mean, call me naïve, but this is-I just don't get exactly what you're getting at.

 '''Chris''': Okay well-okay yeah, I'm trying to prevent from having to go into the legal issues as well, so-

 '''Alec''': Well I appreciate that, but I just don't understand how you have a legal ground to sue me, I mean, because Pokemon-

 '''Chris''': -because I-because I do hold the copyright to Sonichu.

 '''Alec''': But Sonichu's a Pokemon.

 '''Chris''': [[''Flustered'']] Look, let's just rewind, can we-can we-let's just rewind and go back to what we agreed on before, you know re-uh-readjusting the advertisement signs and uh, giving me, a possible CWCipedia ad on the Asperpedia, and, we just-let the Sonichu in your book be known as-be known as Michael Sonichu, as well as the other Sonichus and Rosechus of the Chaotic Combo, of my Chaotic Combo, let's just rename them the names I suggested in my book-

 '''Alec''': Umm.

 '''Chris''': In your book.

 '''Alec''': Alright, like I said I'll talk to Mao about the ads; as far as the renaming goes, if you're-I guess you can make up some characters, Mike Sonichu, Mitch Sonichu and whatever, that's your comic book, if you want to create those characters that's fine. I mean, like I said I'm not going to rename my characters.

 '''Chris''': [[''Sigh.'']]

 '''Alec''': And-and you know now that you bring this back to the table, another thing that kind of vexed me in your comic was that you as a, you as uh, [[Collosal Chan]]-was it Collosal Chan or Collosal Chu? I don't recall-

 '''Chris''': It is Collosal-it is Collosal Chris-chan, that'd be me in my super form after releasing the seven Chaotic Crystals, or the Sonichu Ball Crystals as they are also known as.

 '''Alec''': Okay. So Collosal Chris-chan and uh, Sonichu, and he was in his [[Ultra Sonichu|ultra form]], I think-you two came to, well first of all you saw the drawing of Asperchu's house and you mistook that as my house. Just to clarify, that's not my house, [[14 Branchland Court|I made up that house, that-that came out of nowhere, I just decided hey, you know, a big dull-looking happy house]], that'd be funny as Asperchu's home, but, but anyway, you thought it was my house and you came to what you thought was my house and you broke into my house and after breaking and entering-which is a crime, by the way-you proceeded to hack into my computer, and I think you deleted the entire Asperpedia website, and then you deleted all my files of Asperchu comics and everything else, and then I think you stole some [[Dating education|dating program]] or something that you thought was on my-I, I mean this is a multitude of crimes, Chris, that was criminal intent. I mean, why did you do that, you know, those are illegal acts.

 '''Chris''': [[''Another sigh.'']]

 '''Alec''': You know, I mean, that's not a nice thing to do.

 '''Chris''': [[''Defensively'']] Yeah, well it wasn't very nice taking the Sonichu that was originally from CWCville and then claiming him to be Asperchu's brother.

 '''Alec''': Chris, I didn't show Asperchu breaking into Sonichu's house and destroying valuable documents on his computer. I mean this comic is going to be my lifeblood, this is my franchise, this is my multimedia empire I'm trying to build here, and you just destroyed it on a whim. I mean, why did you do that? I-I just don't get that. Asperchu ne-Asperchu has been nice to Sonichu since they've met, they've been friends and they've treated each other like brothers, and they fought battles side by side. I mean haven't you ever had a website hacked before? I have, it sucks, you know, do you know what it feels like to have your videos and computer hacked?

 '''Chris''': I-I have, truly I have, and it was not very nice; I had the original Sonichu site, which was [[CWC's Sonichu Site]] simply, originally on the Tripod web server, hacked into by one [[Clyde Cash]].

 '''Alec''': Well then you know how much it sucks, why would you do it to another person? I mean it's one thing if it never happened to you, if it never happened to you it's still bad but you can claim ignorance, but, but you-it happened to you, and then you turned around and did it to me. I mean, why the double standard, Chris, why is it okay to hack into my computer and destroy my files?

 '''Chris''': [[''Groans, then sighs''.]] Okay I'm gonna go ahead and- cause you gave me permission to call you, and I'm going to call you, naï- [static cuts off Chris before he completes the word 'naïve']

 '''Alec''': Chris, you're cutting off.

 '''Chris''': Because I have-I have tried to explain to you as clearly as possible, in my own best words I could come up with, that I'm getting tired of this long, drawn-out conversation, that obviously you're just too naïve to understand! Think about it! Think long and hard-read all my comic pages, from book number zero to the last-to the current page-

 '''Alec''': ...help me understand why you threatened me in videos and-and drew yourself breaking into my house and committing multiple felonies. That's what I'm asking an explanation for, I mean the ads, and the naming issue, we settled that, this is a new issue and I'm trying to talk it out with you.

 '''Chris''': Okay, yeah okay, well you referenced the Sonichu in your book to be the one from CWCville, and then making him, without my permission, Asperchu's brother. And then without my permission, you took the-you recreated the Chaotic Combo, and then reformatted their personalities in more ways than one, without my permission! And then you go kill-and then you go kill off with blood and gore detail, and then your recreation of Angelica-the flyer, the grass, and the fighter, who are also known as Angelica, Wild, and Punchy! How do you think I feel about that, how would you like it if I went into blood and gory detail of slicing and dicing Jonas Chu, that green one, [''Alec tries to interrupt''] Jivin, and Max? I'm sorry, what?

 '''Alec''': Oh, I just said the green one is, is Peter Chu. Um, okay, I understand why you're angry, but didn't we already establish that the characters I drew are not related to your Chaotic Combo? I mean, in your [[mailbag]], I've seen a lot of people have written to you about the Chaotic Combo, and, you know, other Asperchu similarities and things like that, and your response, almost always, is Alec Benson Leary and Asperchu have no relation to you whatsoever-

 '''Chris''': [''sigh''] In reference to the business, as in like, you know, I actually never originally gave you or Mao permission to put the ads on the CWCipedia in the first place, especially in such large proportions where I had to scroll down to even edit the page or even to log in. But I never even gave you permission to put the ads in the introductory box, which is a felony that [[Jack Thaddeus]] has violated before-

 '''Alec''': Yeah, yeah that Jack guy, that's the name of the guy I know that Mao bought the adspace from. He told me. But um, as I understand the way the ads work is you know, if a website hosts, you know, public adspace that can be purchased for advertising, anybody can buy the rights to advertise.

 '''Chris''': Yeah, I get that.

 '''Alec''': Yeah, so I mean, how is that illegal that I purchased the adspace? And you said it was illegal, you said it was wrongful a number of times, I know you've used that word-

 '''Chris''': Yeah. Because I was not in the loop about this...

 '''Alec''': Well, that's between you and your web manager. You should be in the loop about it, I agree about that, you should be in the loop about it. But I can't be held responsible if you didn't get that information from your webmaster.

 '''Chris''': [''Sigh.''] Alright, well listen, the battery power on my phone is running low, perhaps we could talk again another time. You take care-you take care, stay safe, bye now.

 '''Alec''': I'd like to talk-[Cuts off.]

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==External Links==

*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNQNdjFES7o The Call on Youtube]

[[Category:Phone calls]]

CWCki talk:Transcription Collective

2010-03-02T16:42:55Z

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CWCki talk:Transcription Collective

2010-03-01T12:42:44Z

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Talk:Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2

2010-02-27T03:25:18Z

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I'm gonna be transcribing this. Hopefully won't take too long.--[[User:Joson|Joson]] 16:12, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

I changed some of the lines, I think I got that indistinct bit when Chris is talking about Asperchu's feelings. He says that Asperchu has adult attitudes that Alec gave him. Chris is acknowledging that Asperchu is an adult and exists in an world where he can have his own thoughts, who might be sensitive by his mental deficiencies (like Chris) and might not want a name associated with his special condition.

This is important to clear up because Chris-chan is REALLY REALLY self conscious about being considered a non-functioning member of society (sans any of the bullshit he's already done). His weird empathy (or attempts at it anyway) with nonexistent characters is starting to get to me. [[User:TheBrownSonichu|TheBrownSonichu]] 20:45, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

== Laughter? ==

Minor thing, but is that laughter someone laughing at what he said, or is it just amazingly well timed laughter from whatever Chris is watching on TV? The transcript makes it sound like someone, presumably on Alec's end, laughing at what Chris said, but to me it sounds like something Chris is watching on TV, just very well timed. [[User:Stickly|Stickly]] 03:25, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 6

2010-02-26T00:04:46Z

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== Need analysis ==

Similar to [[List of Chris's lies#Addressing Liquid]], this would be a good opportunity to make a list of all stuff that Chris ''promised'' to do in this phone call, and which he ''failed'' to do in [[I am Alive]]. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 22:14, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

== Transcribing ==

Not really sure what the etiquette here for transcriptions is but I finished off part three as best I could. I'll probably end up doing parts 4 and 5 if/when I have the time, unless someone else beats me to it. Sorry if I've buggered something up [[User:Stickly|Stickly]] 18:33, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
*I did the first half of part four --[[User:Mikhail Faulken|Mikhail Faulken]] 17:55, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
::Finished off the call. My bits probably need some proofreading, 'cos god damn Chris is hard to understand sometimes. [[User:Stickly|Stickly]] 00:04, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 6

2010-02-26T00:01:22Z

Stickly:

'''Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 6''' is the sixth of the calls between Chris and Alec Benson Leary, which took place on 04 February 2010. As Alec notes several times, Chris is far too agreeable to Alec's conditions, and at times simply doesn't seem to be listening.

The end result the demands is the [[I am Alive|C-log of 5 February 2010]], in which Chris half-asses his way through most of Alec's requests.

As a result, the Cwckipedia is shut down from February 6th to February 12th. When it is brought back up, the Asperchu ads were made worse, just as Alec promised.

==Summary==

Alec spends much of the phone call dictating his list of demands to Chris and asking Chris to recite this list multiple times. Alec repeated tells Chris that if Chris meets all of his demands, the ads for the [[Asperchu|Asperpedia]] will be removed from the [[Cwcipedia]], bu if his list of demands are not met in full, his ads will get worse. All the while, Chris tries to rush the phone conversation, clearly not taking this shit seriously enough. Alec brushes upon the topic of the word [[naive]] and Chris shows yet again that he doesn't understand the meaning of the word. [[fail|He also believes that the phrase "well call me naive" is an invitation to call someone naive]]. Alec explains that it is a turn of phrase not to be taken into consideration. He gives Chris a hypothetical situation when someone says "just shoot me" and asks what Chris would do. [[Sonichu Special 4|Chris actually considers shooting someone in this case]]

Chris's ignorance is in fill swing here. Chris feels that attracting fans from another fandom is considered stealing, as if fans spontaneously generate out of nothing and the ones he has are his property and no one elses. Chris also stil has no idea how ad space works. Alec spends a great deal of time explaining to Chris how Sonichu characters are in violation of various [[Chris and copyright|copyrights]] and that if Chris tries to publish Sonichu, he will be sued by Nintendo, Hasbro, Sega, ect. He proposes to Chris that he must reboot Sonichu without all the [[Transformers]], all the [[Pokemon]], [[Family Guy|Meg Griffin]], and the other shit Chris stole. Chris says he will [[lie|take it into consideration]], but clearly will not as he seems adverse to the idea of rebooting Sonichu. Judging from Chris's history of [[White knight e-mails|rejecting good advise]], Chris will continue Sonichu in all it's copyright infringing glory.

==Alec's Demands==

Alec's demands for Chris were as follows:

#Admit that Alec has greater Fanbase.
#Admit that he asked Evan permission to use Simonla.
#Admit that Simonla was never Chris’s creation.
#Admit that he attempted to edit the Cwcipedia article to say that Simonla was his creation.
#Acknowledge that Evan took away rights for Chris to use Simonla and that Chris has been ignoring this
#Apologize for using the word naive about Alec.
#Apologize for cursing Mao and give a Forgiveness Blessing to him.
#Apologize for stealing the false Chaotic Combo and Asperchu from Alec.
#Make the apologies in a comic page.
#Apologize for impersonating his mother off camera (not in a video).
#Admit that Chris has been trolling Alec.
#Apologize for insinuating that Alec keeps female prisoners in his basement and rapes them.
#Admit that he doesn’t have a good excuse to not upload pages everyday.
#Apologize for disrespecting his fans.
#Violently kill Simonla in the comic.
#Wear Sonichu medallion and high school ring while filming the video.
#Admit Sonichu is a doomed franchise.
#Not look insincere.

Chris tried to weaseled his way out of meeting all of Alec's requests. He gave Mao a half-assed Forgiveness Blessing, killed off Simonla off-screen after Alec specifically asked for her to be killed on-screen, and admitted to not having an excuse for updating '''some days''', but that life gets in the way, even though Chris clearly doesn't have a life. He completely refused to mention that he had been troll to Alec and that Sonichu is a doomed franchise. Chris gave the most resistance to these ideas in the phone conversation. Chris also showed no sincerity and tried to rush though the video. Needless to say, Alec was far from pleased with Chris.

==Video==

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| Stardate = 04 February 2010
| Maker = [[Asperchu|Alec Benson Leary]]
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| Performance Style = {{reason}} Reason
| Saga = {{Asperchu}} [[Asperchu]]
| Other = {{Leaked}} Leaked
| previous = [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 5]]
| next = [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 7]]
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===Transcript===

'''Alec''': ''[cut off]''--s it's, uh, it's Alec.

'''Chris''': Yes, hello, Alec.

'''Alec''': Hi. Um. Uh, I was uh, wondering if you'd like to...continue our discussion about, um, about getting all the ads down?

'''Chris''': Ohhhh-kay.

'''Alec''': Um, well first I wanna let you know that um, just to make it clear, if you--if you make another video that, um, includes all the requirements that I'm going to list for you, I will, uh, remove all of my ads completely. From the CWCipedia. If you, if you follow my instructions. That sound good?

'''Chris''': Yeah okay, hang on lemme get something to write on and something to write with.

'''Alec''': Alright.

'''Chris''': Okay, I'm listening.

'''Alec''': Alright. Um, first of all, like I said in our last call, I'd like you to admit that I do have a very sizeable fanbase. Uh, because I think you believe that I don't have any real fans. I'd like you to admit that I do. I have quite a lot of fans. A lot of them are former Sonichu fans.

'''Chris''': Okay, well, yeah...admit that. Okay what's the next thing?

'''Alec''': Um, well, in your apology video I asked you to address not only Simonchu, but Simonla. And you didn't. And I'd like you to bring up that you actually did ask Evan permission to use Simonla when you first began using her, uh, which shows that you understood from the beginning that Simonla was not yours and you were borrowing her from--or, or him, rather, Simonchu--from the original creator. And I'd like you to admit that Simonla was never yours.

''[pause]''

'''Chris''': I see. Hm.

'''Alec''': Will you do that, Chris?

'''Chris''': I'm writing it down, hang on.

''[pause]''

'''Chris''': Alright, what's the next thing?

'''Alec''': Ummm...I'd like you to admit that you...attempted to edit the CWCipedia article about Simonla to say that she was your original creation. Well, wasn't a nice thing to do to your fans.

'''Chris''': Right. Anyway, uh, got that written down. What's the next thing?

'''Alec''': Um...I want you to acknowledge that even though Evan gave you permission to use Simonla, he later took it away. And he took it away quite a long time ago. And I'd like you to admit that you have been ignoring and disrespecting his requests to remove his character from your comic.

'''Chris''': Alright I'm writing it down. Hm. Huh...permission to ''[mutters]''...

'''Alec''': You know, it sounds like, um, you're actually pretty agreeable about this, and I'm glad about that.

'''Chris''': Yeah well I'm writing it down here. Um...yeah.

'''Alec''': Well yeah you're writing it down. So you're, you're going to do those things so far?

'''Chris''': Yeah. ''[very quickly, as if trying to sneak this past Alec]'' Well anyway--anyway it's still debatable. Anyway. What's the next thing?

'''Alec''': ''[nobody's fool but his own]'' Nooo, it's not debatable. Chris, all these conditions I'm listing, you have to do these, or my ads go nowhere.

'''Chris''': Yeah. Anyway. Uh, okay, what's the next thing?

'''Alec''': Does that matter to you, Chris? You said that's debatable and I'm saying it's not. Don't you...wanna acknowledge that?

'''Chris''': Acknowledged, anyway, uh, what's the next thing?

'''Alec''': ''[sigh]'' Alright. Um, I asked you to apologize for the word naive. I want you to do that. Specifically say that you used the word naive because you intended to hurt and insult me, and you know that I am not naive.

''[pause]''

'''Chris''': Alright. Yeah. Okay what's the next thing?

'''Alec''': I want you to apologize for cursing Mao. And um, actually I'd like you to issue him--give him a forgive-a-ness blessing. To--to retract that curse-ye-ha-me-ha.

'''Chris''': Hm. Mm...okay, uh, anything--anything else?

'''Alec''': Um, I want you to apologize for stealing from me.

'''Chris''': Hm.

'''Alec''': You know, the um...the false Chaotic Combo I created, you stole them, and you stole Asper...chu and tried to change them around.

'''Chris''': Uhh...

[pause]

'''Alec''': ''[inhales]'' Um, can we talk about S--can we talk about Simonla a bit? Because I wanna know why you say it's debatable.

'''Chris''': Hm. Lemme think about that a moment...mm...okay, I guess that was a...premature thing to say, so I re--I respectfully withdraw it. So, is there anything else?

'''Alec''': Um, so you...so you are going to say that Simonla is not y--you're going to say exactly what I asked you to say about Simonla? You're going to...?

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Alec''': Okay. Um, the next thing is...these are the things that I wanted you to make in a video. But I also want you to, um, in your comic, just take a page or whatever, you know, take a little side break from the main story, and use the page to explain, uh, everything that I just said as well. And I would like you to, in that comic page, apologize to me, and to Mao, and to Evan, for all the things that I just listed.

'''Chris''': Uh-huh.

'''Alec''': Are you gonna do that?

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Alec''': 'Cause uh, I asked you...I just wanna make sure you're going to do these Chris, 'cause I asked you to do these things last time that we talked about it, I mean the last time before you, you know, hung up on me, and um, you said you were writing it down but then you forgot like half the things that I asked you to do.

'''Chris''': Yeah. Alright so, is that it, is there anything else?

'''Alec''': Um, I guess you don't have to put it in the video, this next part, but I'd like you to apologize for pretending to be your mother in the last phone call. And uh, pretending that she was calling you away from the phone call.

'''Chris''': Hm.

'''Alec''': And the reason I'd like you to apologize for that is because I, um, really don't benefit a whole lot from calling you about these matters, I was calling you because I wanted to give you a quick and easy way to settle this whole ad business and to settle the fight between us, and rather than take the opportunity to listen to what I said, you pretended to be your mother, and, you know, pretended that your mother was calling you away to do an errand and you had to leave the phone call. So instead of handling the problem right then and there, and if you had done so, then, you know, the ads could have been gone by now, but instead you ''[Chris 'hm's]'' ran away from me. It shows you don't respect me.

'''Chris''': Right. Yeah. So, alright. Wrote that down. Anything else?

'''Alec''': Well, I'd like--I'd like you to admit that right now, Chris. That you lied about that.

'''Chris''': Okay, why don't--

'''Alec''': And since you--

'''Chris''': I admit that--I admit that I pretended to be my mother, to end the call early last time.

'''Alec''': Can I ask you why you did that, Chris?

'''Chris''': Because I felt it was going on and on, and I was--

'''Alec''': We were--

'''Chris''': --[[Stress|tired]]...

'''Alec''': We were barely on the phone for five minutes when you did that. And this is, like I said, this is a serious matter, and it's your problem that I'm trying to help you with. I was being gracious enough to call you, to, you know, give you a way to settle it. And you still--you ran away from me. Real men don't run away from their problems, Chris. When I--I talked to you, I talked to you on an even footing, man to man. I don't lie or deceive you. And I don't run away, even though you are a troll to me. Because, you know, obviously I've been calling you. To talk to you. Instead of hiding from you.

'''Chris''': Okay.

'''Alec''': Um...that's another thing I want you to put in the video. I want you to admit that you are a troll. And that you have been trolling me ever since I--ever since my comic started. And use that word specifically. Say, "I, Christian Weston Chandler, am a troll."

'''Chris''': Yeah. Okay.

'''Alec''': Can you, um, read back, uh, to me the list that you've made since we started this call, please?

'''Chris''': Okay. Admit that Alec has sizable fanbase, address the--I had permission for Simonchu but then it was withdrawn, and I did not admit to--uh, an a, admit--admit--admit Simonla was not mine, admit ''(?)'' anything to my Simonla article, yeah Evan gave permission, but withdrew it, gone against his wishes, no Simonla, apologize to Alec for calling him naive, apologize to Mao forgiveness blessing, apologize for stealing Asperchu and parodic characters, and ''(?)'' comic page explaining all of that with more apologies, and I just apologized to you for pretending to be my mother to end the call early, and admit trolling you.

'''Alec''': Okay, good. That's good so far. Um, I'd also like you to apologize for insinuating that I keep female prisoners in my basement and use them as a...unwilling harem and rape them. Because I don't do anything of the sort.

''[pause]''

'''Alec''': That's just creepy. I don't...I don't know where you got that idea.

''[pause]''

'''Alec''': I mean, I can kinda see some of the other complaints that you had were based on, you know, like direct misunderstanding of things, but--but that, you know, me raping female prisoner things...that just--that c--that came outta left field. Where'd you get that idea?

'''Chris''': ''[talking over him]'' Yeah okay well, okay. Well actually...no. Ah...I never said--I never used the word 'rape', you just had them in prisom ''[sic]'' and you treated them like hamsters. You did not rape them.

'''Alec''': ''[talking over Chris, who says something unclear]'' What do you mean, 'treated them like hamsters'?

'''Chris''': You know, just keep them in cages, giant hamster wheels, giant water bottles, nn...and food pellets.

'''Alec''': 'Kay, um, even if you didn't use the word 'rape', what do you think people--what do you think the impression is people are going to get when you suggest that someone keeps female prisoners in their basement? They're going to think that um, said prisoners are being raped by their captor. And I mean, that seems like a pretty obvious insinuation. Even if you don't use the word directly.

'''Chris''': Okay. Ahh...alright anything else after that?

'''Alec''': ''[inhales]'' Umm...I am still trying to think. Um...y-you know, I apologize for seeming like I'm beating a dead horse, but I...I am a little suspicious that you seem so agreeable, because in all our previous correspondences you've been um, you know, insulting, rude, or...manipulative. Or a combination thereof. But now it seems like, you know, you're--you're just rearin' to go with this. ... Are you sure you're just not trying to--?

'''Chris''': ''(??)''

'''Alec''': --finish the phone call with me quickly? 'Cause,

'''Chris''': Well, I'm not trying to--

'''Alec''': Because--

'''Chris''': --[[Sonichu (comic)|finish anything]].

'''Alec''': Okay.

'''Chris''': I mean, [[Lie|I'm not trying to finish this phone call]], I want to put this to rest.

'''Alec''': Okay, well, good. 'Cause like I said, you do all these things perfectly, as I say, um--

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Alec''': --then my ads will go away. Um, but if--but if you make a video and you're missing anything, or if you deliberately contradict something, um, or if I feel like you are trying to pull a fast one on me and weasel out of something, then the ads are going to get worse. Because at this point I do have to assume that anything that goes wrong is a deliberate, um...evil intent on your part.

'''Chris''': I see.

'''Alec''': Do you--? I mean, that's a...fair assumption for me to make, don't you think? Considering how much you've--

'''Chris''': ''[talking over him]'' You have, you have, you have right--you have the right to make that assumption.

'''Alec''': Mmkay. Kay, well good. Excuse me just a second.

'''Chris''': Kay.

''[pause, a [[stress sigh]] is heard]''

'''Alec''': Sorry about that, I'm back. Um...

'''Chris''': Right.

'''Alec''': Can I ask you why you think the word 'naive' is so...horrible?

''[small pause]''

'''Chris''': Not only does the word sound like nails on--nails on a chalkboard when one says it, but also, it questions one's intelligence and experience. In life.

'''Alec''': I--I think it actually only questions experience, it's not about intelligence.

'''Chris''': ''[interrupting]'' Yeah but, yeah but--experience versus knowledge...still implied, the knowledge part.

'''Alec''': Well no, knowledge is different from intelligence.

'''Chris''': Yeah but also similarly it can sound like, you know, callin' somebody stupid. Or worse than that.

'''Alec''': Well, you know, no pun intended here, but if you...if you believe that then I think you kind of are naive. I mean, because the--that you--you don't have a, you know, an understanding of the word.

'''Chris''': I looked it up in a disshonary ''[sic]''. I have a understanding of the word.

'''Alec''': I--I don't know what dictionary you looked up that suggested it's a direct question of one's intelligence. ... I mean, lemme look it up on uh, an online dictionary here. Um...let's see..."lacking experience or judgments", it's really not about intelligence. And um, I am still kinda bothered that, you know, you think it's such a horrible insult that you wanted to use it on me.

'''Chris''': Hm. Okay well, in--

'''Alec''': And you--and you had happily--

'''Chris''': Okay well still in my defense though, [[Autism|you did tell me to--you did say, "well, call me naive" during that particular conversation]].

''[pause]''

'''Alec''': Um, you know that's just a turn of phrase, right? I wasn't actually asking you to call me naive.

'''Chris''': ''[watch as Alec's words bounce off Chris, like throwing ping-pong balls at a whale...]'' Mmkay. Well, you gave me the opportunity, so that's my defense right there.

'''Alec''': You should--

'''Chris''': ''(?)'' --agree on that.

'''Alec''': You should exercise some personal responsibility though, because, you know, you think 'naive' is such a horrible thing, like, have you ever heard the phrase, uh, "just shoot me"? Like, you know, someone's frustrated, they'll say "just shoot me." I mean, if someone said that in your presence, would you feel, you know, okay with [[Liquid|"well, I'll just pull out a gun and shoot them"]]?

'''Chris''': No, not nec--no, not necessarily shoot them.

'''Alec''': "Not necessarily"? Does that mean you'd consider it?

'''Chris''': Mm. No, I would not shoot them at all.

'''Alec''': Well, I should hope not. I mean, you shot people in your comic before. I hope you wouldn't shoot them in real life.

'''Chris''': Date. ''(?)'' Anyway, uh, alright, so, anything else for this video, or I mean--''[mumbles]'' aside from before apologize for labeling you as having female prisoners in your basement and...raping.

'''Alec''': Um, yes. There is another item. I'd like you to admit that you don't have a good excuse to not upload pages every day.

'''Chris''': Mm.

''[pause]''

'''Alec''': I mean, I think that's...correct, right? You don't have a job, you don't go to school. I have both, you know, school and a job, and I upload every day.

'''Chris''': Yeah. In my defense though, actually, [[Lie|yesterday I actually went on a nice d--on a date with a nice girl, and it was a great date, could have not gone better]].

'''Alec''': Oh, um, what was the date? Like all day, I mean, it wasn't like in the morning, was it? You could have uploaded in the morning.

'''Chris''': Yeah well I wa--Yeah well I was not up in the morning.

'''Alec''': Um, you didn't have, you know, any ti--What time did you wake up? How long do you sleep?

'''Chris''': ''[Unintelligible word mixing]'' Yeah, I woke up at about eleven.

'''Alec''': Yeah, well, that's not la--

'''Chris''': ''[Interrupting]'' And I had to go out and ru--I had to go--and I actually had to go out to run a couple of errands at the g-grocery store and also I had to go and get my family some anti-freeze for their car.

'''Alec''': Okay, well I-I have chores-- ''[Can't make out over Chris's interruption]''

'''Chris''': And 'caus--and c--and the--and then with that I also had to take a shower and make myself fully ready for the date.

'''Alec''': Um ''[small sigh of disapproval]'' You know, when I--When I shower and clean myself up, that takes like 20 minutes. I--I, like I said, I have a job and school and I have errands to do and I go out with people and I go out on dates and I still make sure I upload every day. I mean, Sonichu is your--Think of--Think of it this way: Sonichu is gonna be your big franchise. That's what's gonna make you money, right? Um, so you should treat it like it is your...your day to day job.

'''Chris''': Yeah

'''Alec''': And ''[Chris interrupts again with another "Yeah"]'' You--When was the last day when you uploaded a page? It's been about a week, hasn't it? I mean, even if you had, you know ''[possibly "finished it"]'' yesterday...

'''Chris''': ''[Interrupting again]]'' Well, in my--in my dis--yeeah. Yeah, well, okay, I did update the CWCipedia day before yesterday.

'''Alec''': ''[Alec interrupts]'' With new comic pages?

'''Chris''': I didn't necessarily upload. I made an ''update''.

'''Alec''': W-what kind of update did you make?

''[pause]''

'''Chris''': ''[Can't understand the "Abeyru" sounding thing he says.]'' the captain's log or a quote update.

'''Alec''': W-well, like, ''a quote''? Really? I mean...What does that take? 5 minutes?

'''Chris''': Yeah I mean, well--I mean uh--I--''[I give up. Tardspeak]''--answer letters and ema--in--To answer mailbag letters but I just--

'''Alec''': ''[Interrupting]'' Yeah, you got some mail--You got some mailbags piling up too.

'''Chris''': I-I just-I just could not--I just could not stand the, uh, image that was plag--that was plaguing my CWCipedia, that Mao put up. ''[Disapproving "Um" from Alec]'' I just could not stand that.

'''Alec''': You know, Chris, if we confront our demons head on and defeat them, we come out stronger on the other side. You won't accomplish anything by running from the ads just 'cause they're unpleasant to look at. I mean ''[Chris puts in a "Right" quickly]'' Yo--You se--You know, this is the internet. You've seen tonnes of unpleasant crap, I'm sure ''I'' have. It doesn't stop me from ''[Chris quickly: "Yeah"]'' going on the internet. Um, a-and like I said; "Sonichu is serious business". It's your job. You should--and jo-Jobs are difficult. Jobs are hard. And... ''[Chris quickly: "Yeah"]'' I've had--I've had plenty of hard jobs. Like, you...I don't think you have any real work experience, right? But trust me, jobs are difficult.

'''Chris''': ''[Probably disregarding everything Alec has just said because he mentioned that Chris has never had a hard job and Chris has only ever had "hard working jobs"]'' Hmm. Yeah, anyway uh...Is there anything else?

''[pause]''

'''Alec''': Umm...Like I said, y-you know; Take Simonla out of the comic and, in the comic, apologize to me and Mao and Evan for...for everything I've listed.

'''Chris''': Yeah. Okay.

'''Alec''': And...

'''Chris''': ''[Interrupting]'' I have the list here.

'''Alec''': Um, can I ask you what you're going to do to get your fans back? 'Cause you've lost a lot of fans to me and I know you want them back.

'''Chris''': Yeah, well, I'm going to change - I'm gonna continue my work and make my updates.

'''Alec''': 'kay, well, you've said that a lot in the past and your update pattern has ''drastically' dropped in the last couple of weeks.

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Alec''': I mean, it seems like... think of it this way, Chris: I'm... I am your competition, obviously, and it seems that with one little series of unpleasant ads, I have completely shut down my competition. Now, ''I'm'' a nice guy, and I'm trying to help you, and the average artist who would be your competition is ''sure as hell'' not going to help you. So, imagine if they found out 'Oh, all I have to do is buy some space on his wiki and put up an ad he doesn't like looking at'! And that'll stop his comic production entirely. I mean, are my ads really the only reason you haven't uploaded pages in a week? Yeah, well, that and your... busy day... ''[Chris tries to say something and fails]''

'''Chris''': The very dirty ones. Yeah.

'''Alec''': Um, pardon me for being blunt, but that's kind of pathetic, don't ya think?

'''Chris''': Erm... takes one to know one.

'''Alec''': 'Takes one' what? Pathetic person? I... I wouldn't consider myself pathetic, because I have 30,000 fans, the number of which I took from you. So, I don't think I'm pathetic at all. I mean, why do you think I'm pathetic?

'''Chris''': Hmm... ''[pauses]'' I do not have a reason at the moment!

'''Alec''': *sighs* Well...

'''Chris''': But... but, yeah, you-you'd pretty much had to consider yourself weak to think that, you know, t-to, y-you know, you have a bunch of fans to steal someone else's.

'''Alec''': Um... how else will uh... fans come around, Chris? How else does any new franchise gets fans? They come from other sources. People, people are not living in a vacuum. Y'know, people, fans have been fans of other things. That's how competition works, the better man wins. I'm productive and I...

'''Chris''': L-Lemme... still, the ''[unintelligible]'' of whom, your ads on my website. That... that was just... that was like stealing from me. 

'''Alec''': Um...

'''Chris''': Yeah, even though you paid to put the ads there, you didn't pay the [[User:cogsdev|the Sysop]], you paid [[Jack Thaddeus]]. 

'''Alec''': Yeah. Yeah, I rented from Jack Thaddeus. That's how it works. And it turns out people like Asperchu, so... I mean, y'know... how do you think...? You watch a lot of TV, right? I mean, you see a lot of commercials. Do you think all those... people who make those commercials, y'know, Coke or McDonalds and all that think that they're bad people because they use ads? That what you're saying to me? That I am bad just because I use ads? Good franchises advertise their products.

'''Chris''': I'm not, I, I am not saying that, but if you consider me competition then it it would just, it's just terribly wrong for you to try to encourage my fans to go to you by putting, by putting your ads on your own competition space. Yeah, what if I had put up, like, I had actually successfully bought ads, put ads, bought ad space on your website, and put my ads on your website. How would you feel about that.

'''Alec''': Umm, honestly I don't think I'd be worried, because you don't respect your fans, and you don't update for weeks at a time.

'''Chris''': *sighs*

'''Alec''': I think, I think my consistency, and my sticktoitiveness, and my uh, work ethic, y'know, is what makes my product superior. My fans would stay with me. I mean, they might go and locate your website, your cwcki if you put adverts on mine, but they probably wouldn't see much there worth keeping them around. There's a length of sonichu on the asperpedia front page too, if you hadn't noticed. I mean I'm not...

'''Chris''': Um... Anyway, okay well, yeah, alright, anyway, is there uh, yeah okay are we-

'''Alec''': *interupting* There is another, there is another... I'm sorry, go ahead?

'''Chris''': Nah, no I'm sorry you go ahead, you said there's another thing?

'''Alec''': There's another item for your list, I want you to apologise to your fans for disrespecting them. You disrespect them in general, I mean, all the time but, it's your mailbags because you don't offer thought out responses, and you delete most of the mail that comes to you these days. And, I, um, there was a bit of a backlash with I think mailbag 50 or 51, whichever one that you fabricated, y'know, positive mails for instead of taking mails from the supply of existing mail. The one that you said, y'know, the one where you, you, you basically wanted all your writers to trash me. ''[pause]'' Which is another thing I would add to the list, but I think I already covered y'know, wanting you to apologise for devoting all your time to trolling me lately.

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Alec''': I mean every video that you've made, like y'know your videos might be 2 or 5 or 10 minutes long, and it probably takes quite a bit of time to upload the videos, y'know that's all time you could've spent making your comic which would've kept fans around. But instead, the average fan sees two artists; they see me who makes a good comic, and they see you who attempts to terrorise other artists. 

''[pause]''

'''Chris''': I see. Okay well...

'''Alec''': Did I... Go ahead, what're you thinking about that.

'''Chris''': Go ahead.

'''Alec''': No no, I had another subject to bring up, but I'd like to have your response to this first.

'''Chris''': No that's alright, you said you had another topic? Another thing for my list?

'''Alec''': No I'd like to have your response to that first. What are you... do you really think it was a good idea for you to devote what little energy you did put into this whole comic thing in the first place to, um, attacking me? I mean why would you think that was a good idea?

'''Chris''': Well because you attacked me first by putting your ads on my website.

'''Alec''': Uh, that wasn't an attack, that was just a good business move.

'''Chris''': Well to me it was an attack.

'''Alec''': Well... it seems like to you everything is an attack. Seems like to you everything is ''[unintelligible; fast?]'' when it's not. ''[Speaking over Chris as he tries to interrupt]'' Um, Chris, do you think that it's okay for, um, for you to use Pikachu and Sonic the Hedgehog as characters in your story? And transformers and meg griffin... I mean, wouldn't their original creators get mad? That you're taking their characters?

'''Chris''': Well first off, we're talking about my own autobots, my own autobots, my own decepticons, with recolouring and different names, so they're not, so hasbro's not going to complain about that.

'''Alec''':You know that Hasbro owns the names "Autobot" and "Decepticon", right? Just using those names is already... taking from them. ''[Chris tries to interrupt]'' Even if- even if-- What's that?

'''Chris''': I said, nobody's complainin' to me yet.

'''Alec''': Well, that's probably 'cause you haven't made money on ''Sonichu'' yet. If you- I promise if you made one dime on ''Sonichu'', umm... Hasbro and Sega and Nintendo... will come down on your head. Because you just recoloured their characters.

'''Chris''': Well, I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. Or if it's, like--

'''Alec''': Chris, you can't affourd to wait 'till you get to that bridge, because you've spent ''ten years'' devoting your life to this comic, which ''will'' unravel the instant you try to make money off it. Get one dime, lose fifty-thousand dollars in lawsuits. You need to... do something about it now, before you waste any more time and effort on a franchise that is full of, of stolen material!.

'''Chris''': Well, I'll think about that further.

'''Alec''': Chris, I'm trying to help you here. I mean it- ''[Chris tries to interrupt]'' -How many, how many times tonight have you said, you know "Oh, I'll think about that, anything else?" like you, I think you ''are'' trying to rush this phone call. Chris, I have- you've gotta admit, I've got the patience of a saint, to... keep calling you, and, keep trying to be nice to you. And, it seems like you have no concern for anything I say. I mean, keep in mind, I am- ''[Chris tries to interrupt again, succeeds]''

'''Chris''': I am- [[Lies|I have paid attention to everything you said]].

'''Alec''': But, it seems like you don't want to take my advice!

'''Chris''': Well, I am going to take your advice here.

'''Alec''': You mean, you're going to restructure your comic completely and remove all elements of- you know, that belong to other creators? 'Cause that would pretty much take apart your entire comic. What are you going to do? What's your plan, what are you going to to, to... umm... follow that advice?

'''Chris''': The reboot will happen in book number twelve.

'''Alec''': Oh, well... umm... Well, you're still working on book ten, right? So, you'll have that, and then all of book eleven... [He trails off and Chris resumes]

'''Chris''': Yeah, book eleven will be like a clip show- which will unravel some of those plots... nnn.... whatnot. And uh, answer some questions, and then book twelve is, like, restarting with just Sonichu and Rosechu, and me not gettin' involved that much.

'''Alec''': Okay, well... umm... is Sonichu still going to be a product of Pikachu and Sonic? 'Cause that's a problem right there.
[Long Pause]

'''Chris''': I do not have an answer to that question... at the moment.

'''Alec''': Chris, I suggest that you, that you... instead of going through the rest of the episodes and issues, or, Issue ten and eleven; I suggest that you stop it all right now and come up with a completely different comic. Because that's the only way you're going to get away from lawsuits. You gotta answer this problem, because... you know, Nintendo and Sega, Hasbro and ''Family Guy''... they're not going to wait. They're not, and you- and you know that when I say that you need to do a reboot, umm, you know I mean that all of the Sonichu comics that currently exist- you can ''never'' attempt to get punished. Published, I mean.
[Long silence, then they try to talk in unison]

'''Chris''': Yeah, everything you said has been taken to heart... umm... mmm... yeah-

'''Alec''': I kind of doubt that. You're... you've got this kind of lackadaisical tone you're taking with me right now. [Sigh]. Chris- do you believe I'm trying to help you? [Chris tries to interrupt multiple times, loses] Do you care that I'm trying to help you?

'''Chris''': Yes, I care.

'''Alec''': Do you feel bad that you've treated me like shit, even though I've tried to help you countless times? [Long pause, Chris tries to talk, but Alec continues] You sound like an old child trying to get out of being lectured, which is why I keep asking this. Chris, I'd like you to make me- I'd like you to make me believe that you actually are listening and believe everything I say, and when I say "Listen", I don't mean, "You wrote down the list I asked you to and can repeat the words back to me", that's not what "Listening" means. "Listen" means: You are actually considering what I say.

'''Chris''': Well I am actually considering what you are saying.

'''Alec''': Prove it to me Chris.

'''Chris''': Okay... how do I prove it to you?

'''Alec''': Show some... ''[Chris tries to interrupt, but it is garbled]'' show some concern. I mean.... say something other than 'I will take it into consideration'. That's the same thing you say to your fans every time they suggest ideas to you in the mailbag. I don't think you do take anything I say into consideration. You know what... [sighs] my first few calls with you, I was like nice like this, and you were insulting to me. And then the next few times I tried to call you, I got mean and loud and yelled a lot, and then it seemed like you actually listened. And now I'm trying to be nice again because I didn't want to... I don't like being mean to people, y'know, and now it seems like you've stopped listening again. I think... I was hoping for the best, but I think I may have been right, I may have hit the nail on the head when I said that you seem to only listen to yelling and insults.

'''Chris''': Well that is not true. I do not listen to only yelling and insults.

'''Alec''': Y'know, I think you do. Because... y'know, people, I think a big problem a lot of people have is that they believe the way they behave is the way that everybody behaves, and the world they follow is the world everyone follows, and I think that because you rely on bullying and trolling and insulting and trying to make other people feel bad just to make yourself feel good... Because you practice all of those, I think that you believe that's the only set of rules that applies in the world.

'''Chris''': Well that is not the case.

'''Alec''': You sound so convincing there, you really do.

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Alec''': Yeah... ''[laughs, then sighs]'' y'know... you seem to really care about what Mao says, and all Mao does is insult you. Did I tell you that to get rid of Simonla, I don't remember if I brought this up...

'''Chris''': [interrupting] Yeah, yes you did.

'''Alec''': Evan wants you to violently kill her in the comic? And display it, don't show it off screen or off panel, you have to show it in the comic, like show her head getting chopped off, or show her getting shot full of bullets, something like that.

'''Chris''': I will not kill her, but she will leave CWCville peacefully.

'''Alec''': Um, you have to kill her. You have to kill...

'''Chris''': ''[Interrupting]'' I am not going... I am not going to kill her. I will let her leave...

'''Alec''': ''[Talking over Chris]'' Chris... no that's one of my terms. It's not like Poochie from the Simpsons where you can just take his frame out... Chris, you violently kill her, or Evan might come down on you and the CWCipedia. And I know you already got the CWCipedia shut down once when you tried to manipulate the ads. If you don't respect this now, it's gonna get shut down again, because Evan is going to come down on you. And he would've come down on you a long time ago, except I was trying to be the voice of peace and was holding his anger in check. And I'm not gonna do that now. Now I've learned my lesson, now I'm just telling you the terms. You either follow them, or face Evan's anger.

'''Chris''': Alright...

'''Alec''': So you're going to violently kill Simonla, right? And show it?

'''Chris''': That will happen, yes.

'''Alec''': Okay. Um, I suggest fire. I think that's always a good way to go to deal with characters that you want to get rid of. It's just, it's very visually, y'know, draws people in. Everybody loves fire. Sometimes I light people on fire in my comic, and every time I do, I get ALL this fanmail, just praising that one panel or that one page. 

'''Chris''': Yeah.. well, I will think of tha- I will think of something. I will think about it. Alright...

'''Alec''': Can I have you one more time read off your list to me?

'''Chris''': Okay... ''[sighs]''. Admit Alec has sizeable fanbase...

'''Alec''': Let's actually change that to 'admit Alec has a greater fanbase than you.' Let's just, because we should be specific.

'''Chris''': ...greater fanbase.

'''Alec''': Yup, bigger fanbase...

'''Chris''': That Chris can't...greater... said that, alright, anyway, that, address permission of Sonichu use, but then it was withdrawn, and uh, admit Simonla was not mine, uh, admit amending Simonla article, uh remove Simonla by death, apologise to you for calling you naïve, apologise to Mao with a forgiveness blessing to undo the curse, apologise for ''[unintelligible]'' asperchu and parodic characters, make a comic page explaining all that, I just apologised to you for impersonating to be my mother to get out of the last phone call, apologise for insinuating female impri-impri-imprisonment and rape on you, admit to having no excuse for not updating on... uh, as often as I should, and apologise to my fans for disrespecting them in mailbags and delayed updates.

'''Alec''': Uhm and, when you make this video, make sure that you're wearing your Sonichu medallion and your high school ring so everyone knows it's true, and I don't wanna see any of that Groucho Marx glasses bullshit. Because you've done that before. This video, I don't want any way for you to weasel out of this video.

'''Chris''': Okay.

'''Alec''': This video will stand for all time.

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Alec''': And, oh and, one last thing. I'd like you to admit that Sonichu is a doomed franchise and you have no way of actually profiting from it or publishing it without getting sued six ways from Sunday by the real owners of the products you use.

'''Chris''': ''[meekly]''...um, yeah.

'''Alec''': That's the final thing for the list.

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Alec''': Uhm, okay, so and... so it sounds like you've got the list comprehensive, which is good, I'm glad you've got that written down. And I just wanna emphasise again that you will do all of those items, both in a video and in your comic, and if you do it all perfectly, exactly the way I've laid out for you, and I don't sense you're trying to weasel out of anything or trying to pull a fast one on me, I will remove all my ads. I will release my contract with Jack. But if you do try to pull anything, then the ads are going to get worse. Because despite the fact that I am trying to be calm with you, I am still very angry with you, and if you try to pull anything on me, then I am going to punish you for it.

'''Chris''': Okay, alright, okay, okay well, I'll do all that, and I'll talk to you later.

'''Alec''': Alright. Well I look forward to seeing the ad and the comic.

'''Chris''': Okay.

'''Alec''': Alright, you have a good night Chris.

'''Chris''': And you too.

''[Tape ends]''

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==External Links==

*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBPdXXFnvzU The Call on Youtube]

[[Category:Phone calls]]

Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 6

2010-02-26T00:00:03Z

Stickly:

'''Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 6''' is the sixth of the calls between Chris and Alec Benson Leary, which took place on 04 February 2010. As Alec notes several times, Chris is far too agreeable to Alec's conditions, and at times simply doesn't seem to be listening.

The end result the demands is the [[I am Alive|C-log of 5 February 2010]], in which Chris half-asses his way through most of Alec's requests.

As a result, the Cwckipedia is shut down from February 6th to February 12th. When it is brought back up, the Asperchu ads were made worse, just as Alec promised.

==Summary==

Alec spends much of the phone call dictating his list of demands to Chris and asking Chris to recite this list multiple times. Alec repeated tells Chris that if Chris meets all of his demands, the ads for the [[Asperchu|Asperpedia]] will be removed from the [[Cwcipedia]], bu if his list of demands are not met in full, his ads will get worse. All the while, Chris tries to rush the phone conversation, clearly not taking this shit seriously enough. Alec brushes upon the topic of the word [[naive]] and Chris shows yet again that he doesn't understand the meaning of the word. [[fail|He also believes that the phrase "well call me naive" is an invitation to call someone naive]]. Alec explains that it is a turn of phrase not to be taken into consideration. He gives Chris a hypothetical situation when someone says "just shoot me" and asks what Chris would do. [[Sonichu Special 4|Chris actually considers shooting someone in this case]]

Chris's ignorance is in fill swing here. Chris feels that attracting fans from another fandom is considered stealing, as if fans spontaneously generate out of nothing and the ones he has are his property and no one elses. Chris also stil has no idea how ad space works. Alec spends a great deal of time explaining to Chris how Sonichu characters are in violation of various [[Chris and copyright|copyrights]] and that if Chris tries to publish Sonichu, he will be sued by Nintendo, Hasbro, Sega, ect. He proposes to Chris that he must reboot Sonichu without all the [[Transformers]], all the [[Pokemon]], [[Family Guy|Meg Griffin]], and the other shit Chris stole. Chris says he will [[lie|take it into consideration]], but clearly will not as he seems adverse to the idea of rebooting Sonichu. Judging from Chris's history of [[White knight e-mails|rejecting good advise]], Chris will continue Sonichu in all it's copyright infringing glory.

==Alec's Demands==

Alec's demands for Chris were as follows:

#Admit that Alec has greater Fanbase.
#Admit that he asked Evan permission to use Simonla.
#Admit that Simonla was never Chris’s creation.
#Admit that he attempted to edit the Cwcipedia article to say that Simonla was his creation.
#Acknowledge that Evan took away rights for Chris to use Simonla and that Chris has been ignoring this
#Apologize for using the word naive about Alec.
#Apologize for cursing Mao and give a Forgiveness Blessing to him.
#Apologize for stealing the false Chaotic Combo and Asperchu from Alec.
#Make the apologies in a comic page.
#Apologize for impersonating his mother off camera (not in a video).
#Admit that Chris has been trolling Alec.
#Apologize for insinuating that Alec keeps female prisoners in his basement and rapes them.
#Admit that he doesn’t have a good excuse to not upload pages everyday.
#Apologize for disrespecting his fans.
#Violently kill Simonla in the comic.
#Wear Sonichu medallion and high school ring while filming the video.
#Admit Sonichu is a doomed franchise.
#Not look insincere.

Chris tried to weaseled his way out of meeting all of Alec's requests. He gave Mao a half-assed Forgiveness Blessing, killed off Simonla off-screen after Alec specifically asked for her to be killed on-screen, and admitted to not having an excuse for updating '''some days''', but that life gets in the way, even though Chris clearly doesn't have a life. He completely refused to mention that he had been troll to Alec and that Sonichu is a doomed franchise. Chris gave the most resistance to these ideas in the phone conversation. Chris also showed no sincerity and tried to rush though the video. Needless to say, Alec was far from pleased with Chris.

==Video==

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| name = Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 6
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| imagewidth = 250
| Stardate = 04 February 2010
| Maker = [[Asperchu|Alec Benson Leary]]
| Subject Matter = [[Image:Fanartn.PNG‎]] Fan Art
| Performance Style = {{reason}} Reason
| Saga = {{Asperchu}} [[Asperchu]]
| Other = {{Leaked}} Leaked
| previous = [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 5]]
| next = [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 7]]
}} </center>

===Transcript===

'''Alec''': ''[cut off]''--s it's, uh, it's Alec.

'''Chris''': Yes, hello, Alec.

'''Alec''': Hi. Um. Uh, I was uh, wondering if you'd like to...continue our discussion about, um, about getting all the ads down?

'''Chris''': Ohhhh-kay.

'''Alec''': Um, well first I wanna let you know that um, just to make it clear, if you--if you make another video that, um, includes all the requirements that I'm going to list for you, I will, uh, remove all of my ads completely. From the CWCipedia. If you, if you follow my instructions. That sound good?

'''Chris''': Yeah okay, hang on lemme get something to write on and something to write with.

'''Alec''': Alright.

'''Chris''': Okay, I'm listening.

'''Alec''': Alright. Um, first of all, like I said in our last call, I'd like you to admit that I do have a very sizeable fanbase. Uh, because I think you believe that I don't have any real fans. I'd like you to admit that I do. I have quite a lot of fans. A lot of them are former Sonichu fans.

'''Chris''': Okay, well, yeah...admit that. Okay what's the next thing?

'''Alec''': Um, well, in your apology video I asked you to address not only Simonchu, but Simonla. And you didn't. And I'd like you to bring up that you actually did ask Evan permission to use Simonla when you first began using her, uh, which shows that you understood from the beginning that Simonla was not yours and you were borrowing her from--or, or him, rather, Simonchu--from the original creator. And I'd like you to admit that Simonla was never yours.

''[pause]''

'''Chris''': I see. Hm.

'''Alec''': Will you do that, Chris?

'''Chris''': I'm writing it down, hang on.

''[pause]''

'''Chris''': Alright, what's the next thing?

'''Alec''': Ummm...I'd like you to admit that you...attempted to edit the CWCipedia article about Simonla to say that she was your original creation. Well, wasn't a nice thing to do to your fans.

'''Chris''': Right. Anyway, uh, got that written down. What's the next thing?

'''Alec''': Um...I want you to acknowledge that even though Evan gave you permission to use Simonla, he later took it away. And he took it away quite a long time ago. And I'd like you to admit that you have been ignoring and disrespecting his requests to remove his character from your comic.

'''Chris''': Alright I'm writing it down. Hm. Huh...permission to ''[mutters]''...

'''Alec''': You know, it sounds like, um, you're actually pretty agreeable about this, and I'm glad about that.

'''Chris''': Yeah well I'm writing it down here. Um...yeah.

'''Alec''': Well yeah you're writing it down. So you're, you're going to do those things so far?

'''Chris''': Yeah. ''[very quickly, as if trying to sneak this past Alec]'' Well anyway--anyway it's still debatable. Anyway. What's the next thing?

'''Alec''': ''[nobody's fool but his own]'' Nooo, it's not debatable. Chris, all these conditions I'm listing, you have to do these, or my ads go nowhere.

'''Chris''': Yeah. Anyway. Uh, okay, what's the next thing?

'''Alec''': Does that matter to you, Chris? You said that's debatable and I'm saying it's not. Don't you...wanna acknowledge that?

'''Chris''': Acknowledged, anyway, uh, what's the next thing?

'''Alec''': ''[sigh]'' Alright. Um, I asked you to apologize for the word naive. I want you to do that. Specifically say that you used the word naive because you intended to hurt and insult me, and you know that I am not naive.

''[pause]''

'''Chris''': Alright. Yeah. Okay what's the next thing?

'''Alec''': I want you to apologize for cursing Mao. And um, actually I'd like you to issue him--give him a forgive-a-ness blessing. To--to retract that curse-ye-ha-me-ha.

'''Chris''': Hm. Mm...okay, uh, anything--anything else?

'''Alec''': Um, I want you to apologize for stealing from me.

'''Chris''': Hm.

'''Alec''': You know, the um...the false Chaotic Combo I created, you stole them, and you stole Asper...chu and tried to change them around.

'''Chris''': Uhh...

[pause]

'''Alec''': ''[inhales]'' Um, can we talk about S--can we talk about Simonla a bit? Because I wanna know why you say it's debatable.

'''Chris''': Hm. Lemme think about that a moment...mm...okay, I guess that was a...premature thing to say, so I re--I respectfully withdraw it. So, is there anything else?

'''Alec''': Um, so you...so you are going to say that Simonla is not y--you're going to say exactly what I asked you to say about Simonla? You're going to...?

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Alec''': Okay. Um, the next thing is...these are the things that I wanted you to make in a video. But I also want you to, um, in your comic, just take a page or whatever, you know, take a little side break from the main story, and use the page to explain, uh, everything that I just said as well. And I would like you to, in that comic page, apologize to me, and to Mao, and to Evan, for all the things that I just listed.

'''Chris''': Uh-huh.

'''Alec''': Are you gonna do that?

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Alec''': 'Cause uh, I asked you...I just wanna make sure you're going to do these Chris, 'cause I asked you to do these things last time that we talked about it, I mean the last time before you, you know, hung up on me, and um, you said you were writing it down but then you forgot like half the things that I asked you to do.

'''Chris''': Yeah. Alright so, is that it, is there anything else?

'''Alec''': Um, I guess you don't have to put it in the video, this next part, but I'd like you to apologize for pretending to be your mother in the last phone call. And uh, pretending that she was calling you away from the phone call.

'''Chris''': Hm.

'''Alec''': And the reason I'd like you to apologize for that is because I, um, really don't benefit a whole lot from calling you about these matters, I was calling you because I wanted to give you a quick and easy way to settle this whole ad business and to settle the fight between us, and rather than take the opportunity to listen to what I said, you pretended to be your mother, and, you know, pretended that your mother was calling you away to do an errand and you had to leave the phone call. So instead of handling the problem right then and there, and if you had done so, then, you know, the ads could have been gone by now, but instead you ''[Chris 'hm's]'' ran away from me. It shows you don't respect me.

'''Chris''': Right. Yeah. So, alright. Wrote that down. Anything else?

'''Alec''': Well, I'd like--I'd like you to admit that right now, Chris. That you lied about that.

'''Chris''': Okay, why don't--

'''Alec''': And since you--

'''Chris''': I admit that--I admit that I pretended to be my mother, to end the call early last time.

'''Alec''': Can I ask you why you did that, Chris?

'''Chris''': Because I felt it was going on and on, and I was--

'''Alec''': We were--

'''Chris''': --[[Stress|tired]]...

'''Alec''': We were barely on the phone for five minutes when you did that. And this is, like I said, this is a serious matter, and it's your problem that I'm trying to help you with. I was being gracious enough to call you, to, you know, give you a way to settle it. And you still--you ran away from me. Real men don't run away from their problems, Chris. When I--I talked to you, I talked to you on an even footing, man to man. I don't lie or deceive you. And I don't run away, even though you are a troll to me. Because, you know, obviously I've been calling you. To talk to you. Instead of hiding from you.

'''Chris''': Okay.

'''Alec''': Um...that's another thing I want you to put in the video. I want you to admit that you are a troll. And that you have been trolling me ever since I--ever since my comic started. And use that word specifically. Say, "I, Christian Weston Chandler, am a troll."

'''Chris''': Yeah. Okay.

'''Alec''': Can you, um, read back, uh, to me the list that you've made since we started this call, please?

'''Chris''': Okay. Admit that Alec has sizable fanbase, address the--I had permission for Simonchu but then it was withdrawn, and I did not admit to--uh, an a, admit--admit--admit Simonla was not mine, admit ''(?)'' anything to my Simonla article, yeah Evan gave permission, but withdrew it, gone against his wishes, no Simonla, apologize to Alec for calling him naive, apologize to Mao forgiveness blessing, apologize for stealing Asperchu and parodic characters, and ''(?)'' comic page explaining all of that with more apologies, and I just apologized to you for pretending to be my mother to end the call early, and admit trolling you.

'''Alec''': Okay, good. That's good so far. Um, I'd also like you to apologize for insinuating that I keep female prisoners in my basement and use them as a...unwilling harem and rape them. Because I don't do anything of the sort.

''[pause]''

'''Alec''': That's just creepy. I don't...I don't know where you got that idea.

''[pause]''

'''Alec''': I mean, I can kinda see some of the other complaints that you had were based on, you know, like direct misunderstanding of things, but--but that, you know, me raping female prisoner things...that just--that c--that came outta left field. Where'd you get that idea?

'''Chris''': ''[talking over him]'' Yeah okay well, okay. Well actually...no. Ah...I never said--I never used the word 'rape', you just had them in prisom ''[sic]'' and you treated them like hamsters. You did not rape them.

'''Alec''': ''[talking over Chris, who says something unclear]'' What do you mean, 'treated them like hamsters'?

'''Chris''': You know, just keep them in cages, giant hamster wheels, giant water bottles, nn...and food pellets.

'''Alec''': 'Kay, um, even if you didn't use the word 'rape', what do you think people--what do you think the impression is people are going to get when you suggest that someone keeps female prisoners in their basement? They're going to think that um, said prisoners are being raped by their captor. And I mean, that seems like a pretty obvious insinuation. Even if you don't use the word directly.

'''Chris''': Okay. Ahh...alright anything else after that?

'''Alec''': ''[inhales]'' Umm...I am still trying to think. Um...y-you know, I apologize for seeming like I'm beating a dead horse, but I...I am a little suspicious that you seem so agreeable, because in all our previous correspondences you've been um, you know, insulting, rude, or...manipulative. Or a combination thereof. But now it seems like, you know, you're--you're just rearin' to go with this. ... Are you sure you're just not trying to--?

'''Chris''': ''(??)''

'''Alec''': --finish the phone call with me quickly? 'Cause,

'''Chris''': Well, I'm not trying to--

'''Alec''': Because--

'''Chris''': --[[Sonichu (comic)|finish anything]].

'''Alec''': Okay.

'''Chris''': I mean, [[Lie|I'm not trying to finish this phone call]], I want to put this to rest.

'''Alec''': Okay, well, good. 'Cause like I said, you do all these things perfectly, as I say, um--

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Alec''': --then my ads will go away. Um, but if--but if you make a video and you're missing anything, or if you deliberately contradict something, um, or if I feel like you are trying to pull a fast one on me and weasel out of something, then the ads are going to get worse. Because at this point I do have to assume that anything that goes wrong is a deliberate, um...evil intent on your part.

'''Chris''': I see.

'''Alec''': Do you--? I mean, that's a...fair assumption for me to make, don't you think? Considering how much you've--

'''Chris''': ''[talking over him]'' You have, you have, you have right--you have the right to make that assumption.

'''Alec''': Mmkay. Kay, well good. Excuse me just a second.

'''Chris''': Kay.

''[pause, a [[stress sigh]] is heard]''

'''Alec''': Sorry about that, I'm back. Um...

'''Chris''': Right.

'''Alec''': Can I ask you why you think the word 'naive' is so...horrible?

''[small pause]''

'''Chris''': Not only does the word sound like nails on--nails on a chalkboard when one says it, but also, it questions one's intelligence and experience. In life.

'''Alec''': I--I think it actually only questions experience, it's not about intelligence.

'''Chris''': ''[interrupting]'' Yeah but, yeah but--experience versus knowledge...still implied, the knowledge part.

'''Alec''': Well no, knowledge is different from intelligence.

'''Chris''': Yeah but also similarly it can sound like, you know, callin' somebody stupid. Or worse than that.

'''Alec''': Well, you know, no pun intended here, but if you...if you believe that then I think you kind of are naive. I mean, because the--that you--you don't have a, you know, an understanding of the word.

'''Chris''': I looked it up in a disshonary ''[sic]''. I have a understanding of the word.

'''Alec''': I--I don't know what dictionary you looked up that suggested it's a direct question of one's intelligence. ... I mean, lemme look it up on uh, an online dictionary here. Um...let's see..."lacking experience or judgments", it's really not about intelligence. And um, I am still kinda bothered that, you know, you think it's such a horrible insult that you wanted to use it on me.

'''Chris''': Hm. Okay well, in--

'''Alec''': And you--and you had happily--

'''Chris''': Okay well still in my defense though, [[Autism|you did tell me to--you did say, "well, call me naive" during that particular conversation]].

''[pause]''

'''Alec''': Um, you know that's just a turn of phrase, right? I wasn't actually asking you to call me naive.

'''Chris''': ''[watch as Alec's words bounce off Chris, like throwing ping-pong balls at a whale...]'' Mmkay. Well, you gave me the opportunity, so that's my defense right there.

'''Alec''': You should--

'''Chris''': ''(?)'' --agree on that.

'''Alec''': You should exercise some personal responsibility though, because, you know, you think 'naive' is such a horrible thing, like, have you ever heard the phrase, uh, "just shoot me"? Like, you know, someone's frustrated, they'll say "just shoot me." I mean, if someone said that in your presence, would you feel, you know, okay with [[Liquid|"well, I'll just pull out a gun and shoot them"]]?

'''Chris''': No, not nec--no, not necessarily shoot them.

'''Alec''': "Not necessarily"? Does that mean you'd consider it?

'''Chris''': Mm. No, I would not shoot them at all.

'''Alec''': Well, I should hope not. I mean, you shot people in your comic before. I hope you wouldn't shoot them in real life.

'''Chris''': Date. ''(?)'' Anyway, uh, alright, so, anything else for this video, or I mean--''[mumbles]'' aside from before apologize for labeling you as having female prisoners in your basement and...raping.

'''Alec''': Um, yes. There is another item. I'd like you to admit that you don't have a good excuse to not upload pages every day.

'''Chris''': Mm.

''[pause]''

'''Alec''': I mean, I think that's...correct, right? You don't have a job, you don't go to school. I have both, you know, school and a job, and I upload every day.

'''Chris''': Yeah. In my defense though, actually, [[Lie|yesterday I actually went on a nice d--on a date with a nice girl, and it was a great date, could have not gone better]].

'''Alec''': Oh, um, what was the date? Like all day, I mean, it wasn't like in the morning, was it? You could have uploaded in the morning.

'''Chris''': Yeah well I wa--Yeah well I was not up in the morning.

'''Alec''': Um, you didn't have, you know, any ti--What time did you wake up? How long do you sleep?

'''Chris''': ''[Unintelligible word mixing]'' Yeah, I woke up at about eleven.

'''Alec''': Yeah, well, that's not la--

'''Chris''': ''[Interrupting]'' And I had to go out and ru--I had to go--and I actually had to go out to run a couple of errands at the g-grocery store and also I had to go and get my family some anti-freeze for their car.

'''Alec''': Okay, well I-I have chores-- ''[Can't make out over Chris's interruption]''

'''Chris''': And 'caus--and c--and the--and then with that I also had to take a shower and make myself fully ready for the date.

'''Alec''': Um ''[small sigh of disapproval]'' You know, when I--When I shower and clean myself up, that takes like 20 minutes. I--I, like I said, I have a job and school and I have errands to do and I go out with people and I go out on dates and I still make sure I upload every day. I mean, Sonichu is your--Think of--Think of it this way: Sonichu is gonna be your big franchise. That's what's gonna make you money, right? Um, so you should treat it like it is your...your day to day job.

'''Chris''': Yeah

'''Alec''': And ''[Chris interrupts again with another "Yeah"]'' You--When was the last day when you uploaded a page? It's been about a week, hasn't it? I mean, even if you had, you know ''[possibly "finished it"]'' yesterday...

'''Chris''': ''[Interrupting again]]'' Well, in my--in my dis--yeeah. Yeah, well, okay, I did update the CWCipedia day before yesterday.

'''Alec''': ''[Alec interrupts]'' With new comic pages?

'''Chris''': I didn't necessarily upload. I made an ''update''.

'''Alec''': W-what kind of update did you make?

''[pause]''

'''Chris''': ''[Can't understand the "Abeyru" sounding thing he says.]'' the captain's log or a quote update.

'''Alec''': W-well, like, ''a quote''? Really? I mean...What does that take? 5 minutes?

'''Chris''': Yeah I mean, well--I mean uh--I--''[I give up. Tardspeak]''--answer letters and ema--in--To answer mailbag letters but I just--

'''Alec''': ''[Interrupting]'' Yeah, you got some mail--You got some mailbags piling up too.

'''Chris''': I-I just-I just could not--I just could not stand the, uh, image that was plag--that was plaguing my CWCipedia, that Mao put up. ''[Disapproving "Um" from Alec]'' I just could not stand that.

'''Alec''': You know, Chris, if we confront our demons head on and defeat them, we come out stronger on the other side. You won't accomplish anything by running from the ads just 'cause they're unpleasant to look at. I mean ''[Chris puts in a "Right" quickly]'' Yo--You se--You know, this is the internet. You've seen tonnes of unpleasant crap, I'm sure ''I'' have. It doesn't stop me from ''[Chris quickly: "Yeah"]'' going on the internet. Um, a-and like I said; "Sonichu is serious business". It's your job. You should--and jo-Jobs are difficult. Jobs are hard. And... ''[Chris quickly: "Yeah"]'' I've had--I've had plenty of hard jobs. Like, you...I don't think you have any real work experience, right? But trust me, jobs are difficult.

'''Chris''': ''[Probably disregarding everything Alec has just said because he mentioned that Chris has never had a hard job and Chris has only ever had "hard working jobs"]'' Hmm. Yeah, anyway uh...Is there anything else?

''[pause]''

'''Alec''': Umm...Like I said, y-you know; Take Simonla out of the comic and, in the comic, apologize to me and Mao and Evan for...for everything I've listed.

'''Chris''': Yeah. Okay.

'''Alec''': And...

'''Chris''': ''[Interrupting]'' I have the list here.

'''Alec''': Um, can I ask you what you're going to do to get your fans back? 'Cause you've lost a lot of fans to me and I know you want them back.

'''Chris''': Yeah, well, I'm going to change - I'm gonna continue my work and make my updates.

'''Alec''': 'kay, well, you've said that a lot in the past and your update pattern has ''drastically' dropped in the last couple of weeks.

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Alec''': I mean, it seems like... think of it this way, Chris: I'm... I am your competition, obviously, and it seems that with one little series of unpleasant ads, I have completely shut down my competition. Now, ''I'm'' a nice guy, and I'm trying to help you, and the average artist who would be your competition is ''sure as hell'' not going to help you. So, imagine if they found out 'Oh, all I have to do is buy some space on his wiki and put up an ad he doesn't like looking at'! And that'll stop his comic production entirely. I mean, are my ads really the only reason you haven't uploaded pages in a week? Yeah, well, that and your... busy day... ''[Chris tries to say something and fails]''

'''Chris''': The very dirty ones. Yeah.

'''Alec''': Um, pardon me for being blunt, but that's kind of pathetic, don't ya think?

'''Chris''': Erm... takes one to know one.

'''Alec''': 'Takes one' what? Pathetic person? I... I wouldn't consider myself pathetic, because I have 30,000 fans, the number of which I took from you. So, I don't think I'm pathetic at all. I mean, why do you think I'm pathetic?

'''Chris''': Hmm... ''[pauses]'' I do not have a reason at the moment!

'''Alec''': *sighs* Well...

'''Chris''': But... but, yeah, you-you'd pretty much had to consider yourself weak to think that, you know, t-to, y-you know, you have a bunch of fans to steal someone else's.

'''Alec''': Um... how else will uh... fans come around, Chris? How else does any new franchise gets fans? They come from other sources. People, people are not living in a vacuum. Y'know, people, fans have been fans of other things. That's how competition works, the better man wins. I'm productive and I...

'''Chris''': L-Lemme... still, the ''[unintelligible]'' of whom, your ads on my website. That... that was just... that was like stealing from me. 

'''Alec''': Um...

'''Chris''': Yeah, even though you paid to put the ads there, you didn't pay the [[User:cogsdev|the Sysop]], you paid [[Jack Thaddeus]]. 

'''Alec''': Yeah. Yeah, I rented from Jack Thaddeus. That's how it works. And it turns out people like Asperchu, so... I mean, y'know... how do you think...? You watch a lot of TV, right? I mean, you see a lot of commercials. Do you think all those... people who make those commercials, y'know, Coke or McDonalds and all that think that they're bad people because they use ads? That what you're saying to me? That I am bad just because I use ads? Good franchises advertise their products.

'''Chris''': I'm not, I, I am not saying that, but if you consider me competition then it it would just, it's just terribly wrong for you to try to encourage my fans to go to you by putting, by putting your ads on your own competition space. Yeah, what if I had put up, like, I had actually successfully bought ads, put ads, bought ad space on your website, and put my ads on your website. How would you feel about that.

'''Alec''': Umm, honestly I don't think I'd be worried, because you don't respect your fans, and you don't update for weeks at a time.

'''Chris''': *sighs*

'''Alec''': I think, I think my consistency, and my sticktoitiveness, and my uh, work ethic, y'know, is what makes my product superior. My fans would stay with me. I mean, they might go and locate your website, your cwcki if you put adverts on mine, but they probably wouldn't see much there worth keeping them around. There's a length of sonichu on the asperpedia front page too, if you hadn't noticed. I mean I'm not...

'''Chris''': Um... Anyway, okay well, yeah, alright, anyway, is there uh, yeah okay are we-

'''Alec''': *interupting* There is another, there is another... I'm sorry, go ahead?

'''Chris''': Nah, no I'm sorry you go ahead, you said there's another thing?

'''Alec''': There's another item for your list, I want you to apologise to your fans for disrespecting them. You disrespect them in general, I mean, all the time but, it's your mailbags because you don't offer thought out responses, and you delete most of the mail that comes to you these days. And, I, um, there was a bit of a backlash with I think mailbag 50 or 51, whichever one that you fabricated, y'know, positive mails for instead of taking mails from the supply of existing mail. The one that you said, y'know, the one where you, you, you basically wanted all your writers to trash me. ''[pause]'' Which is another thing I would add to the list, but I think I already covered y'know, wanting you to apologise for devoting all your time to trolling me lately.

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Alec''': I mean every video that you've made, like y'know your videos might be 2 or 5 or 10 minutes long, and it probably takes quite a bit of time to upload the videos, y'know that's all time you could've spent making your comic which would've kept fans around. But instead, the average fan sees two artists; they see me who makes a good comic, and they see you who attempts to terrorise other artists. 

''[pause]''

'''Chris''': I see. Okay well...

'''Alec''': Did I... Go ahead, what're you thinking about that.

'''Chris''': Go ahead.

'''Alec''': No no, I had another subject to bring up, but I'd like to have your response to this first.

'''Chris''': No that's alright, you said you had another topic? Another thing for my list?

'''Alec''': No I'd like to have your response to that first. What are you... do you really think it was a good idea for you to devote what little energy you did put into this whole comic thing in the first place to, um, attacking me? I mean why would you think that was a good idea?

'''Chris''': Well because you attacked me first by putting your ads on my website.

'''Alec''': Uh, that wasn't an attack, that was just a good business move.

'''Chris''': Well to me it was an attack.

'''Alec''': Well... it seems like to you everything is an attack. Seems like to you everything is ''[unintelligible; fast?]'' when it's not. ''[Speaking over Chris as he tries to interrupt]'' Um, Chris, do you think that it's okay for, um, for you to use Pikachu and Sonic the Hedgehog as characters in your story? And transformers and meg griffin... I mean, wouldn't their original creators get mad? That you're taking their characters?

'''Chris''': Well first off, we're talking about my own autobots, my own autobots, my own decepticons, with recolouring and different names, so they're not, so hasbro's not going to complain about that.

'''Alec''':You know that Hasbro owns the names "Autobot" and "Decepticon", right? Just using those names is already... taking from them. ''[Chris tries to interrupt]'' Even if- even if-- What's that?

'''Chris''': I said, nobody's complainin' to me yet.

'''Alec''': Well, that's probably 'cause you haven't made money on ''Sonichu'' yet. If you- I promise if you made one dime on ''Sonichu'', umm... Hasbro and Sega and Nintendo... will come down on your head. Because you just recoloured their characters.

'''Chris''': Well, I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. Or if it's, like--

'''Alec''': Chris, you can't affourd to wait 'till you get to that bridge, because you've spent ''ten years'' devoting your life to this comic, which ''will'' unravel the instant you try to make money off it. Get one dime, lose fifty-thousand dollars in lawsuits. You need to... do something about it now, before you waste any more time and effort on a franchise that is full of, of stolen material!.

'''Chris''': Well, I'll think about that further.

'''Alec''': Chris, I'm trying to help you here. I mean it- ''[Chris tries to interrupt]'' -How many, how many times tonight have you said, you know "Oh, I'll think about that, anything else?" like you, I think you ''are'' trying to rush this phone call. Chris, I have- you've gotta admit, I've got the patience of a saint, to... keep calling you, and, keep trying to be nice to you. And, it seems like you have no concern for anything I say. I mean, keep in mind, I am- ''[Chris tries to interrupt again, succeeds]''

'''Chris''': I am- [[Lies|I have paid attention to everything you said]].

'''Alec''': But, it seems like you don't want to take my advice!

'''Chris''': Well, I am going to take your advice here.

'''Alec''': You mean, you're going to restructure your comic completely and remove all elements of- you know, that belong to other creators? 'Cause that would pretty much take apart your entire comic. What are you going to do? What's your plan, what are you going to to, to... umm... follow that advice?

'''Chris''': The reboot will happen in book number twelve.

'''Alec''': Oh, well... umm... Well, you're still working on book ten, right? So, you'll have that, and then all of book eleven... [He trails off and Chris resumes]

'''Chris''': Yeah, book eleven will be like a clip show- which will unravel some of those plots... nnn.... whatnot. And uh, answer some questions, and then book twelve is, like, restarting with just Sonichu and Rosechu, and me not gettin' involved that much.

'''Alec''': Okay, well... umm... is Sonichu still going to be a product of Pikachu and Sonic? 'Cause that's a problem right there.
[Long Pause]

'''Chris''': I do not have an answer to that question... at the moment.

'''Alec''': Chris, I suggest that you, that you... instead of going through the rest of the episodes and issues, or, Issue ten and eleven; I suggest that you stop it all right now and come up with a completely different comic. Because that's the only way you're going to get away from lawsuits. You gotta answer this problem, because... you know, Nintendo and Sega, Hasbro and ''Family Guy''... they're not going to wait. They're not, and you- and you know that when I say that you need to do a reboot, umm, you know I mean that all of the Sonichu comics that currently exist- you can ''never'' attempt to get punished. Published, I mean.
[Long silence, then they try to talk in unison]

'''Chris''': Yeah, everything you said has been taken to heart... umm... mmm... yeah-

'''Alec''': I kind of doubt that. You're... you've got this kind of lackadaisical tone you're taking with me right now. [Sigh]. Chris- do you believe I'm trying to help you? [Chris tries to interrupt multiple times, loses] Do you care that I'm trying to help you?

'''Chris''': Yes, I care.

'''Alec''': Do you feel bad that you've treated me like shit, even though I've tried to help you countless times? [Long pause, Chris tries to talk, but Alec continues] You sound like an old child trying to get out of being lectured, which is why I keep asking this. Chris, I'd like you to make me- I'd like you to make me believe that you actually are listening and believe everything I say, and when I say "Listen", I don't mean, "You wrote down the list I asked you to and can repeat the words back to me", that's not what "Listening" means. "Listen" means: You are actually considering what I say.

'''Chris''': Well I am actually considering what you are saying.

'''Alec''': Prove it to me Chris.

'''Chris''': Okay... how do I prove it to you?

'''Alec''': Show some... ''[Chris tries to interrupt, but it is garbled]'' show some concern. I mean.... say something other than 'I will take it into consideration'. That's the same thing you say to your fans every time they suggest ideas to you in the mailbag. I don't think you do take anything I say into consideration. You know what... [sighs] my first few calls with you, I was like nice like this, and you were insulting to me. And then the next few times I tried to call you, I got mean and loud and yelled a lot, and then it seemed like you actually listened. And now I'm trying to be nice again because I didn't want to... I don't like being mean to people, y'know, and now it seems like you've stopped listening again. I think... I was hoping for the best, but I think I may have been right, I may have hit the nail on the head when I said that you seem to only listen to yelling and insults.

'''Chris''': Well that is not true. I do not listen to only yelling and insults.

'''Alec''': Y'know, I think you do. Because... y'know, people, I think a big problem a lot of people have is that they believe the way they behave is the way that everybody behaves, and the world they follow is the world everyone follows, and I think that because you rely on bullying and trolling and insulting and trying to make other people feel bad just to make yourself feel good... Because you practice all of those, I think that you believe that's the only set of rules that applies in the world.

'''Chris''': Well that is not the case.

'''Alec''': You sound so convincing there, you really do.

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Alec''': Yeah... ''[laughs, then sighs]'' y'know... you seem to really care about what Mao says, and all Mao does is insult you. Did I tell you that to get rid of Simonla, I don't remember if I brought this up...

'''Chris''': [interrupting] Yeah, yes you did.

'''Alec''': Evan wants you to violently kill her in the comic? And display it, don't show it off screen or off panel, you have to show it in the comic, like show her head getting chopped off, or show her getting shot full of bullets, something like that.

'''Chris''': I will not kill her, but she will leave CWCville peacefully.

'''Alec''': Um, you have to kill her. You have to kill...

'''Chris''': ''[Interrupting]'' I am not going... I am not going to kill her. I will let her leave...

'''Alec''': ''[Talking over Chris]'' Chris... no that's one of my terms. It's not like Poochie from the Simpsons where you can just take his frame out... Chris, you violently kill her, or Evan might come down on you and the CWCipedia. And I know you already got the CWCipedia shut down once when you tried to manipulate the ads. If you don't respect this now, it's gonna get shut down again, because Evan is going to come down on you. And he would've come down on you a long time ago, except I was trying to be the voice of peace and was holding his anger in check. And I'm not gonna do that now. Now I've learned my lesson, now I'm just telling you the terms. You either follow them, or face Evan's anger.

'''Chris''': Alright...

'''Alec''': So you're going to violently kill Simonla, right? And show it?

'''Chris''': That will happen, yes.

'''Alec''': Okay. Um, I suggest fire. I think that's always a good way to go to deal with characters that you want to get rid of. It's just, it's very visually, y'know, draws people in. Everybody loves fire. Sometimes I light people on fire in my comic, and every time I do, I get ALL this fanmail, just praising that one panel or that one page. 

'''Chris''': Yeah.. well, I will think of tha- I will think of something. I will think about it. Alright...

'''Alec''': Can I have you one more time read off your list to me?

'''Chris''': Okay... ''[sighs]''. Admit Alec has sizeable fanbase...

'''Alec''': Let's actually change that to 'admit Alec has a greater fanbase than you.' Let's just, because we should be specific.

'''Chris''': ...greater fanbase.

'''Alec''': Yup, bigger fanbase...

'''Chris''': That Chris can't...greater... said that, alright, anyway, that, address permission of Sonichu use, but then it was withdrawn, and uh, admit Simonla was not mine, uh, admit amending Simonla article, uh remove Simonla by death, apologise to you for calling you naïve, apologise to Mao with a forgiveness blessing to undo the curse, apologise for ''[unintelligible]'' asperchu and parodic characters, make a comic page explaining all that, I just apologised to you for impersonating to be my mother to get out of the last phone call, apologise for insinuating female impri-impri-imprisonment and rape on you, admit to having no excuse for not updating on... uh, as often as I should, and apologise to my fans for disrespecting them in mailbags and delayed updates.

'''Alec''': Uhm and, when you make this video, make sure that you're wearing your Sonichu medallion and your high school ring so everyone knows it's true, and I don't wanna see any of that Groucho Marx glasses bullshit. Because you've done that before. This video, I don't want any way for you to weasel out of this video.

'''Chris''': Okay.

'''Alec''': This video will stand for all time.

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Alec''': And, oh and, one last thing. I'd like you to admit that Sonichu is a doomed franchise and you have no way of actually profiting from it or publishing it without getting sued six ways from Sunday by the real owners of the products you use.

'''Chris''': ''[meekly]''...um, yeah.

'''Alec''': That's the final thing for the list.

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Alec''': Uhm, okay, so and... so it sounds like you've got the list comprehensive, which is good, I'm glad you've got that written down. And I just wanna emphasise again that you will do all of those items, both in a video and in your comic, and if you do it all perfectly, exactly the way I've laid out for you, and I don't sense you're trying to weasel out of anything or trying to pull a fast one on me, I will remove all my ads. I will release my contract with Jack. But if you do try to pull anything, then the ads are going to get worse. Because despite the fact that I am trying to be calm with you, I am still very angry with you, and if you try to pull anything on me, then I am going to punish you for it.

'''Chris''': Okay, alright, okay, okay well, I'll do all that, and I'll talk to you later.

'''Alec''': Alright. Well I look forward to seeing the ad and the comic.

'''Chris''': Okay.

'''Alec''': Alright, you have a good night Chris.

'''Chris''': And you too.

''[Tape ends]''

''Part 4 on Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8wwB2opUUs''

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==External Links==

*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBPdXXFnvzU The Call on Youtube]

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Talk:Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 6

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Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 6

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'''Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 6''' is the sixth of the calls between Chris and Alec Benson Leary, which took place on 04 February 2010. As Alec notes several times, Chris is far too agreeable to Alec's conditions, and at times simply doesn't seem to be listening.

The end result the demands is the [[I am Alive|C-log of 5 February 2010]], in which Chris half-asses his way through most of Alec's requests.

As a result, the Cwckipedia is shut down from February 6th to February 12th. When it is brought back up, the Asperchu ads were made worse, just as Alec promised.

==Summary==

Alec spends much of the phone call dictating his list of demands to Chris and asking Chris to recite this list multiple times. Alec repeated tells Chris that if Chris meets all of his demands, the ads for the [[Asperchu|Asperpedia]] will be removed from the [[Cwcipedia]], bu if his list of demands are not met in full, his ads will get worse. All the while, Chris tries to rush the phone conversation, clearly not taking this shit seriously enough. Alec brushes upon the topic of the word [[naive]] and Chris shows yet again that he doesn't understand the meaning of the word. [[fail|He also believes that the phrase "well call me naive" is an invitation to call someone naive]]. Alec explains that it is a turn of phrase not to be taken into consideration. He gives Chris a hypothetical situation when someone says "just shoot me" and asks what Chris would do. [[Sonichu Special 4|Chris actually considers shooting someone in this case]]

Chris's ignorance is in fill swing here. Chris feels that attracting fans from another fandom is considered stealing, as if fans spontaneously generate out of nothing and the ones he has are his property and no one elses. Chris also stil has no idea how ad space works. Alec spends a great deal of time explaining to Chris how Sonichu characters are in violation of various [[Chris and copyright|copyrights]] and that if Chris tries to publish Sonichu, he will be sued by Nintendo, Hasbro, Sega, ect. He proposes to Chris that he must reboot Sonichu without all the [[Transformers]], all the [[Pokemon]], [[Family Guy|Meg Griffin]], and the other shit Chris stole. Chris says he will [[lie|take it into consideration]], but clearly will not as he seems adverse to the idea of rebooting Sonichu. Judging from Chris's history of [[White knight e-mails|rejecting good advise]], Chris will continue Sonichu in all it's copyright infringing glory.

==Alec's Demands==

Alec's demands for Chris were as follows:

#Admit that Alec has greater Fanbase.
#Admit that he asked Evan permission to use Simonla.
#Admit that Simonla was never Chris’s creation.
#Admit that he attempted to edit the Cwcipedia article to say that Simonla was his creation.
#Acknowledge that Evan took away rights for Chris to use Simonla and that Chris has been ignoring this
#Apologize for using the word naive about Alec.
#Apologize for cursing Mao and give a Forgiveness Blessing to him.
#Apologize for stealing the false Chaotic Combo and Asperchu from Alec.
#Make the apologies in a comic page.
#Apologize for impersonating his mother off camera (not in a video).
#Admit that Chris has been trolling Alec.
#Apologize for insinuating that Alec keeps female prisoners in his basement and rapes them.
#Admit that he doesn’t have a good excuse to not upload pages everyday.
#Apologize for disrespecting his fans.
#Violently kill Simonla in the comic.
#Wear Sonichu medallion and high school ring while filming the video.
#Admit Sonichu is a doomed franchise.
#Not look insincere.

Chris tried to weaseled his way out of meeting all of Alec's requests. He gave Mao a half-assed Forgiveness Blessing, killed off Simonla off-screen after Alec specifically asked for her to be killed on-screen, and admitted to not having an excuse for updating '''some days''', but that life gets in the way, even though Chris clearly doesn't have a life. He completely refused to mention that he had been troll to Alec and that Sonichu is a doomed franchise. Chris gave the most resistance to these ideas in the phone conversation. Chris also showed no sincerity and tried to rush though the video. Needless to say, Alec was far from pleased with Chris.

==Video==

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| Performance Style = {{reason}} Reason
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| previous = [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 5]]
| next = [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 7]]
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===Transcript===

'''Alec''': ''[cut off]''--s it's, uh, it's Alec.

'''Chris''': Yes, hello, Alec.

'''Alec''': Hi. Um. Uh, I was uh, wondering if you'd like to...continue our discussion about, um, about getting all the ads down?

'''Chris''': Ohhhh-kay.

'''Alec''': Um, well first I wanna let you know that um, just to make it clear, if you--if you make another video that, um, includes all the requirements that I'm going to list for you, I will, uh, remove all of my ads completely. From the CWCipedia. If you, if you follow my instructions. That sound good?

'''Chris''': Yeah okay, hang on lemme get something to write on and something to write with.

'''Alec''': Alright.

'''Chris''': Okay, I'm listening.

'''Alec''': Alright. Um, first of all, like I said in our last call, I'd like you to admit that I do have a very sizeable fanbase. Uh, because I think you believe that I don't have any real fans. I'd like you to admit that I do. I have quite a lot of fans. A lot of them are former Sonichu fans.

'''Chris''': Okay, well, yeah...admit that. Okay what's the next thing?

'''Alec''': Um, well, in your apology video I asked you to address not only Simonchu, but Simonla. And you didn't. And I'd like you to bring up that you actually did ask Evan permission to use Simonla when you first began using her, uh, which shows that you understood from the beginning that Simonla was not yours and you were borrowing her from--or, or him, rather, Simonchu--from the original creator. And I'd like you to admit that Simonla was never yours.

''[pause]''

'''Chris''': I see. Hm.

'''Alec''': Will you do that, Chris?

'''Chris''': I'm writing it down, hang on.

''[pause]''

'''Chris''': Alright, what's the next thing?

'''Alec''': Ummm...I'd like you to admit that you...attempted to edit the CWCipedia article about Simonla to say that she was your original creation. Well, wasn't a nice thing to do to your fans.

'''Chris''': Right. Anyway, uh, got that written down. What's the next thing?

'''Alec''': Um...I want you to acknowledge that even though Evan gave you permission to use Simonla, he later took it away. And he took it away quite a long time ago. And I'd like you to admit that you have been ignoring and disrespecting his requests to remove his character from your comic.

'''Chris''': Alright I'm writing it down. Hm. Huh...permission to ''[mutters]''...

'''Alec''': You know, it sounds like, um, you're actually pretty agreeable about this, and I'm glad about that.

'''Chris''': Yeah well I'm writing it down here. Um...yeah.

'''Alec''': Well yeah you're writing it down. So you're, you're going to do those things so far?

'''Chris''': Yeah. ''[very quickly, as if trying to sneak this past Alec]'' Well anyway--anyway it's still debatable. Anyway. What's the next thing?

'''Alec''': ''[nobody's fool but his own]'' Nooo, it's not debatable. Chris, all these conditions I'm listing, you have to do these, or my ads go nowhere.

'''Chris''': Yeah. Anyway. Uh, okay, what's the next thing?

'''Alec''': Does that matter to you, Chris? You said that's debatable and I'm saying it's not. Don't you...wanna acknowledge that?

'''Chris''': Acknowledged, anyway, uh, what's the next thing?

'''Alec''': ''[sigh]'' Alright. Um, I asked you to apologize for the word naive. I want you to do that. Specifically say that you used the word naive because you intended to hurt and insult me, and you know that I am not naive.

''[pause]''

'''Chris''': Alright. Yeah. Okay what's the next thing?

'''Alec''': I want you to apologize for cursing Mao. And um, actually I'd like you to issue him--give him a forgive-a-ness blessing. To--to retract that curse-ye-ha-me-ha.

'''Chris''': Hm. Mm...okay, uh, anything--anything else?

'''Alec''': Um, I want you to apologize for stealing from me.

'''Chris''': Hm.

'''Alec''': You know, the um...the false Chaotic Combo I created, you stole them, and you stole Asper...chu and tried to change them around.

'''Chris''': Uhh...

[pause]

'''Alec''': ''[inhales]'' Um, can we talk about S--can we talk about Simonla a bit? Because I wanna know why you say it's debatable.

'''Chris''': Hm. Lemme think about that a moment...mm...okay, I guess that was a...premature thing to say, so I re--I respectfully withdraw it. So, is there anything else?

'''Alec''': Um, so you...so you are going to say that Simonla is not y--you're going to say exactly what I asked you to say about Simonla? You're going to...?

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Alec''': Okay. Um, the next thing is...these are the things that I wanted you to make in a video. But I also want you to, um, in your comic, just take a page or whatever, you know, take a little side break from the main story, and use the page to explain, uh, everything that I just said as well. And I would like you to, in that comic page, apologize to me, and to Mao, and to Evan, for all the things that I just listed.

'''Chris''': Uh-huh.

'''Alec''': Are you gonna do that?

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Alec''': 'Cause uh, I asked you...I just wanna make sure you're going to do these Chris, 'cause I asked you to do these things last time that we talked about it, I mean the last time before you, you know, hung up on me, and um, you said you were writing it down but then you forgot like half the things that I asked you to do.

'''Chris''': Yeah. Alright so, is that it, is there anything else?

'''Alec''': Um, I guess you don't have to put it in the video, this next part, but I'd like you to apologize for pretending to be your mother in the last phone call. And uh, pretending that she was calling you away from the phone call.

'''Chris''': Hm.

'''Alec''': And the reason I'd like you to apologize for that is because I, um, really don't benefit a whole lot from calling you about these matters, I was calling you because I wanted to give you a quick and easy way to settle this whole ad business and to settle the fight between us, and rather than take the opportunity to listen to what I said, you pretended to be your mother, and, you know, pretended that your mother was calling you away to do an errand and you had to leave the phone call. So instead of handling the problem right then and there, and if you had done so, then, you know, the ads could have been gone by now, but instead you ''[Chris 'hm's]'' ran away from me. It shows you don't respect me.

'''Chris''': Right. Yeah. So, alright. Wrote that down. Anything else?

'''Alec''': Well, I'd like--I'd like you to admit that right now, Chris. That you lied about that.

'''Chris''': Okay, why don't--

'''Alec''': And since you--

'''Chris''': I admit that--I admit that I pretended to be my mother, to end the call early last time.

'''Alec''': Can I ask you why you did that, Chris?

'''Chris''': Because I felt it was going on and on, and I was--

'''Alec''': We were--

'''Chris''': --[[Stress|tired]]...

'''Alec''': We were barely on the phone for five minutes when you did that. And this is, like I said, this is a serious matter, and it's your problem that I'm trying to help you with. I was being gracious enough to call you, to, you know, give you a way to settle it. And you still--you ran away from me. Real men don't run away from their problems, Chris. When I--I talked to you, I talked to you on an even footing, man to man. I don't lie or deceive you. And I don't run away, even though you are a troll to me. Because, you know, obviously I've been calling you. To talk to you. Instead of hiding from you.

'''Chris''': Okay.

'''Alec''': Um...that's another thing I want you to put in the video. I want you to admit that you are a troll. And that you have been trolling me ever since I--ever since my comic started. And use that word specifically. Say, "I, Christian Weston Chandler, am a troll."

'''Chris''': Yeah. Okay.

'''Alec''': Can you, um, read back, uh, to me the list that you've made since we started this call, please?

'''Chris''': Okay. Admit that Alec has sizable fanbase, address the--I had permission for Simonchu but then it was withdrawn, and I did not admit to--uh, an a, admit--admit--admit Simonla was not mine, admit ''(?)'' anything to my Simonla article, yeah Evan gave permission, but withdrew it, gone against his wishes, no Simonla, apologize to Alec for calling him naive, apologize to Mao forgiveness blessing, apologize for stealing Asperchu and parodic characters, and ''(?)'' comic page explaining all of that with more apologies, and I just apologized to you for pretending to be my mother to end the call early, and admit trolling you.

'''Alec''': Okay, good. That's good so far. Um, I'd also like you to apologize for insinuating that I keep female prisoners in my basement and use them as a...unwilling harem and rape them. Because I don't do anything of the sort.

''[pause]''

'''Alec''': That's just creepy. I don't...I don't know where you got that idea.

''[pause]''

'''Alec''': I mean, I can kinda see some of the other complaints that you had were based on, you know, like direct misunderstanding of things, but--but that, you know, me raping female prisoner things...that just--that c--that came outta left field. Where'd you get that idea?

'''Chris''': ''[talking over him]'' Yeah okay well, okay. Well actually...no. Ah...I never said--I never used the word 'rape', you just had them in prisom ''[sic]'' and you treated them like hamsters. You did not rape them.

'''Alec''': ''[talking over Chris, who says something unclear]'' What do you mean, 'treated them like hamsters'?

'''Chris''': You know, just keep them in cages, giant hamster wheels, giant water bottles, nn...and food pellets.

'''Alec''': 'Kay, um, even if you didn't use the word 'rape', what do you think people--what do you think the impression is people are going to get when you suggest that someone keeps female prisoners in their basement? They're going to think that um, said prisoners are being raped by their captor. And I mean, that seems like a pretty obvious insinuation. Even if you don't use the word directly.

'''Chris''': Okay. Ahh...alright anything else after that?

'''Alec''': ''[inhales]'' Umm...I am still trying to think. Um...y-you know, I apologize for seeming like I'm beating a dead horse, but I...I am a little suspicious that you seem so agreeable, because in all our previous correspondences you've been um, you know, insulting, rude, or...manipulative. Or a combination thereof. But now it seems like, you know, you're--you're just rearin' to go with this. ... Are you sure you're just not trying to--?

'''Chris''': ''(??)''

'''Alec''': --finish the phone call with me quickly? 'Cause,

'''Chris''': Well, I'm not trying to--

'''Alec''': Because--

'''Chris''': --[[Sonichu (comic)|finish anything]].

'''Alec''': Okay.

'''Chris''': I mean, [[Lie|I'm not trying to finish this phone call]], I want to put this to rest.

'''Alec''': Okay, well, good. 'Cause like I said, you do all these things perfectly, as I say, um--

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Alec''': --then my ads will go away. Um, but if--but if you make a video and you're missing anything, or if you deliberately contradict something, um, or if I feel like you are trying to pull a fast one on me and weasel out of something, then the ads are going to get worse. Because at this point I do have to assume that anything that goes wrong is a deliberate, um...evil intent on your part.

'''Chris''': I see.

'''Alec''': Do you--? I mean, that's a...fair assumption for me to make, don't you think? Considering how much you've--

'''Chris''': ''[talking over him]'' You have, you have, you have right--you have the right to make that assumption.

'''Alec''': Mmkay. Kay, well good. Excuse me just a second.

'''Chris''': Kay.

''[pause, a [[stress sigh]] is heard]''

'''Alec''': Sorry about that, I'm back. Um...

'''Chris''': Right.

'''Alec''': Can I ask you why you think the word 'naive' is so...horrible?

''[small pause]''

'''Chris''': Not only does the word sound like nails on--nails on a chalkboard when one says it, but also, it questions one's intelligence and experience. In life.

'''Alec''': I--I think it actually only questions experience, it's not about intelligence.

'''Chris''': ''[interrupting]'' Yeah but, yeah but--experience versus knowledge...still implied, the knowledge part.

'''Alec''': Well no, knowledge is different from intelligence.

'''Chris''': Yeah but also similarly it can sound like, you know, callin' somebody stupid. Or worse than that.

'''Alec''': Well, you know, no pun intended here, but if you...if you believe that then I think you kind of are naive. I mean, because the--that you--you don't have a, you know, an understanding of the word.

'''Chris''': I looked it up in a disshonary ''[sic]''. I have a understanding of the word.

'''Alec''': I--I don't know what dictionary you looked up that suggested it's a direct question of one's intelligence. ... I mean, lemme look it up on uh, an online dictionary here. Um...let's see..."lacking experience or judgments", it's really not about intelligence. And um, I am still kinda bothered that, you know, you think it's such a horrible insult that you wanted to use it on me.

'''Chris''': Hm. Okay well, in--

'''Alec''': And you--and you had happily--

'''Chris''': Okay well still in my defense though, [[Autism|you did tell me to--you did say, "well, call me naive" during that particular conversation]].

''[pause]''

'''Alec''': Um, you know that's just a turn of phrase, right? I wasn't actually asking you to call me naive.

'''Chris''': ''[watch as Alec's words bounce off Chris, like throwing ping-pong balls at a whale...]'' Mmkay. Well, you gave me the opportunity, so that's my defense right there.

'''Alec''': You should--

'''Chris''': ''(?)'' --agree on that.

'''Alec''': You should exercise some personal responsibility though, because, you know, you think 'naive' is such a horrible thing, like, have you ever heard the phrase, uh, "just shoot me"? Like, you know, someone's frustrated, they'll say "just shoot me." I mean, if someone said that in your presence, would you feel, you know, okay with [[Liquid|"well, I'll just pull out a gun and shoot them"]]?

'''Chris''': No, not nec--no, not necessarily shoot them.

'''Alec''': "Not necessarily"? Does that mean you'd consider it?

'''Chris''': Mm. No, I would not shoot them at all.

'''Alec''': Well, I should hope not. I mean, you shot people in your comic before. I hope you wouldn't shoot them in real life.

'''Chris''': Date. ''(?)'' Anyway, uh, alright, so, anything else for this video, or I mean--''[mumbles]'' aside from before apologize for labeling you as having female prisoners in your basement and...raping.

'''Alec''': Um, yes. There is another item. I'd like you to admit that you don't have a good excuse to not upload pages every day.

'''Chris''': Mm.

''[pause]''

'''Alec''': I mean, I think that's...correct, right? You don't have a job, you don't go to school. I have both, you know, school and a job, and I upload every day.

'''Chris''': Yeah. In my defense though, actually, [[Lie|yesterday I actually went on a nice d--on a date with a nice girl, and it was a great date, could have not gone better]].

'''Alec''': Oh, um, what was the date? Like all day, I mean, it wasn't like in the morning, was it? You could have uploaded in the morning.

'''Chris''': Yeah well I wa--Yeah well I was not up in the morning.

'''Alec''': Um, you didn't have, you know, any ti--What time did you wake up? How long do you sleep?

'''Chris''': ''[Unintelligible word mixing]'' Yeah, I woke up at about eleven.

'''Alec''': Yeah, well, that's not la--

'''Chris''': ''[Interrupting]'' And I had to go out and ru--I had to go--and I actually had to go out to run a couple of errands at the g-grocery store and also I had to go and get my family some anti-freeze for their car.

'''Alec''': Okay, well I-I have chores-- ''[Can't make out over Chris's interruption]''

'''Chris''': And 'caus--and c--and the--and then with that I also had to take a shower and make myself fully ready for the date.

'''Alec''': Um ''[small sigh of disapproval]'' You know, when I--When I shower and clean myself up, that takes like 20 minutes. I--I, like I said, I have a job and school and I have errands to do and I go out with people and I go out on dates and I still make sure I upload every day. I mean, Sonichu is your--Think of--Think of it this way: Sonichu is gonna be your big franchise. That's what's gonna make you money, right? Um, so you should treat it like it is your...your day to day job.

'''Chris''': Yeah

'''Alec''': And ''[Chris interrupts again with another "Yeah"]'' You--When was the last day when you uploaded a page? It's been about a week, hasn't it? I mean, even if you had, you know ''[possibly "finished it"]'' yesterday...

'''Chris''': ''[Interrupting again]]'' Well, in my--in my dis--yeeah. Yeah, well, okay, I did update the CWCipedia day before yesterday.

'''Alec''': ''[Alec interrupts]'' With new comic pages?

'''Chris''': I didn't necessarily upload. I made an ''update''.

'''Alec''': W-what kind of update did you make?

''[pause]''

'''Chris''': ''[Can't understand the "Abeyru" sounding thing he says.]'' the captain's log or a quote update.

'''Alec''': W-well, like, ''a quote''? Really? I mean...What does that take? 5 minutes?

'''Chris''': Yeah I mean, well--I mean uh--I--''[I give up. Tardspeak]''--answer letters and ema--in--To answer mailbag letters but I just--

'''Alec''': ''[Interrupting]'' Yeah, you got some mail--You got some mailbags piling up too.

'''Chris''': I-I just-I just could not--I just could not stand the, uh, image that was plag--that was plaguing my CWCipedia, that Mao put up. ''[Disapproving "Um" from Alec]'' I just could not stand that.

'''Alec''': You know, Chris, if we confront our demons head on and defeat them, we come out stronger on the other side. You won't accomplish anything by running from the ads just 'cause they're unpleasant to look at. I mean ''[Chris puts in a "Right" quickly]'' Yo--You se--You know, this is the internet. You've seen tonnes of unpleasant crap, I'm sure ''I'' have. It doesn't stop me from ''[Chris quickly: "Yeah"]'' going on the internet. Um, a-and like I said; "Sonichu is serious business". It's your job. You should--and jo-Jobs are difficult. Jobs are hard. And... ''[Chris quickly: "Yeah"]'' I've had--I've had plenty of hard jobs. Like, you...I don't think you have any real work experience, right? But trust me, jobs are difficult.

'''Chris''': ''[Probably disregarding everything Alec has just said because he mentioned that Chris has never had a hard job and Chris has only ever had "hard working jobs"]'' Hmm. Yeah, anyway uh...Is there anything else?

''[pause]''

'''Alec''': Umm...Like I said, y-you know; Take Simonla out of the comic and, in the comic, apologize to me and Mao and Evan for...for everything I've listed.

'''Chris''': Yeah. Okay.

'''Alec''': And...

'''Chris''': ''[Interrupting]'' I have the list here.

'''Alec''': Um, can I ask you what you're going to do to get your fans back? 'Cause you've lost a lot of fans to me and I know you want them back.

'''Chris''': Yeah, well, I'm going to change - I'm gonna continue my work and make my updates.

'''Alec''': 'kay, well, you've said that a lot in the past and your update pattern has ''drastically' dropped in the last couple of weeks.

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Alec''': I mean, it seems like... think of it this way, Chris: I'm... I am your competition, obviously, and it seems that with one little series of unpleasant ads, I have completely shut down my competition. Now, ''I'm'' a nice guy, and I'm trying to help you, and the average artist who would be your competition is ''sure as hell'' not going to help you. So, imagine if they found out 'Oh, all I have to do is buy some space on his wiki and put up an ad he doesn't like looking at'! And that'll stop his comic production entirely. I mean, are my ads really the only reason you haven't uploaded pages in a week? Yeah, well, that and your... busy day... ''[Chris tries to say something and fails]''

'''Chris''': The very dirty ones. Yeah.

'''Alec''': Um, pardon me for being blunt, but that's kind of pathetic, don't ya think?

'''Chris''': Erm... takes one to know one.

'''Alec''': 'Takes one' what? Pathetic person? I... I wouldn't consider myself pathetic, because I have 30,000 fans, the number of which I took from you. So, I don't think I'm pathetic at all. I mean, why do you think I'm pathetic?

'''Chris''': Hmm... ''[pauses]'' I do not have a reason at the moment!

'''Alec''': *sighs* Well...

'''Chris''': But... but, yeah, you-you'd pretty much had to consider yourself weak to think that, you know, t-to, y-you know, you have a bunch of fans to steal someone else's.

'''Alec''': Um... how else will uh... fans come around, Chris? How else does any new franchise gets fans? They come from other sources. People, people are not living in a vacuum. Y'know, people, fans have been fans of other things. That's how competition works, the better man wins. I'm productive and I...

'''Chris''': L-Lemme... still, the ''[unintelligible]'' of whom, your ads on my website. That... that was just... that was like stealing from me. 

'''Alec''': Um...

'''Chris''': Yeah, even though you paid to put the ads there, you didn't pay the [[User:cogsdev|the Sysop]], you paid [[Jack Thaddeus]]. 

'''Alec''': Yeah. Yeah, I rented from Jack Thaddeus. That's how it works. And it turns out people like Asperchu, so... I mean, y'know... how do you think...? You watch a lot of TV, right? I mean, you see a lot of commercials. Do you think all those... people who make those commercials, y'know, Coke or McDonalds and all that think that they're bad people because they use ads? That what you're saying to me? That I am bad just because I use ads? Good franchises advertise their products.

'''Chris''': I'm not, I, I am not saying that, but if you consider me competition then it it would just, it's just terribly wrong for you to try to encourage my fans to go to you by putting, by putting your ads on your own competition space. Yeah, what if I had put up, like, I had actually successfully bought ads, put ads, bought ad space on your website, and put my ads on your website. How would you feel about that.

'''Alec''': Umm, honestly I don't think I'd be worried, because you don't respect your fans, and you don't update for weeks at a time.

'''Chris''': *sighs*

'''Alec''': I think, I think my consistency, and my sticktoitiveness, and my uh, work ethic, y'know, is what makes my product superior. My fans would stay with me. I mean, they might go and locate your website, your cwcki if you put adverts on mine, but they probably wouldn't see much there worth keeping them around. There's a length of sonichu on the asperpedia front page too, if you hadn't noticed. I mean I'm not...

'''Chris''': Um... Anyway, okay well, yeah, alright, anyway, is there uh, yeah okay are we-

'''Alec''': *interupting* There is another, there is another... I'm sorry, go ahead?

'''Chris''': Nah, no I'm sorry you go ahead, you said there's another thing?

'''Alec''': There's another item for your list, I want you to apologise to your fans for disrespecting them. You disrespect them in general, I mean, all the time but, it's your mailbags because you don't offer thought out responses, and you delete most of the mail that comes to you these days. And, I, um, there was a bit of a backlash with I think mailbag 50 or 51, whichever one that you fabricated, y'know, positive mails for instead of taking mails from the supply of existing mail. The one that you said, y'know, the one where you, you, you basically wanted all your writers to trash me. ''[pause]'' Which is another thing I would add to the list, but I think I already covered y'know, wanting you to apologise for devoting all your time to trolling me lately.

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Alec''': I mean every video that you've made, like y'know your videos might be 2 or 5 or 10 minutes long, and it probably takes quite a bit of time to upload the videos, y'know that's all time you could've spent making your comic which would've kept fans around. But instead, the average fan sees two artists; they see me who makes a good comic, and they see you who attempts to terrorise other artists. 

''[pause]''

'''Chris''': I see. Okay well...

'''Alec''': Did I... Go ahead, what're you thinking about that.

'''Chris''': Go ahead.

'''Alec''': No no, I had another subject to bring up, but I'd like to have your response to this first.

'''Chris''': No that's alright, you said you had another topic? Another thing for my list?

'''Alec''': No I'd like to have your response to that first. What are you... do you really think it was a good idea for you to devote what little energy you did put into this whole comic thing in the first place to, um, attacking me? I mean why would you think that was a good idea?

'''Chris''': Well because you attacked me first by putting your ads on my website.

'''Alec''': Uh, that wasn't an attack, that was just a good business move.

'''Chris''': Well to me it was an attack.

'''Alec''': Well... it seems like to you everything is an attack. Seems like to you everything is ''[unintelligible; fast?]'' when it's not. ''[Speaking over Chris as he tries to interrupt]'' Um, Chris, do you think that it's okay for, um, for you to use Pikachu and Sonic the Hedgehog as characters in your story? And transformers and meg griffin... I mean, wouldn't their original creators get mad? That you're taking their characters?

'''Chris''': Well first off, we're talking about my own autobots, my own autobots, my own decepticons, with recolouring and different names, so they're not, so hasbro's not going to complain about that.

''Part 4 on Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8wwB2opUUs''

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