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2011-05-20T03:12:22Z

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{{protip|COGSDEV SAYS: account creation [for [[PVCC (message board)|PVCC]]] totally disabled for now because i'm getting tired of people registering over and over thinking it'll get them approved faster 

if your account was deactivated and you want it back, don't ask me on my cwcki talk page, ask someone in the [[IRC:Contents|irc channel]] 

<center>and sign your god damn edits</center>}}

'''Be sure to read the archives before posting.'''

[[User:Cogsdev/Archive 1]]

==A few things==
I've been helping [[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] with image optimization, and in the process, I've come across a few things.
# Wondering if I could have file deletion privileges, so Fs doesn't have to keep checking my userpage and deleting everything for me?
#Is there an "images marked for deletion" tag or something, so we can discuss and get rid of files that don't serve any purpose here? [[:Image:LoriLopez.jpg|Example]] (Uploaders may dispute/defend the merit of the image if they wish.)
#I'm thinking maybe we should have a limit to the number of 'vanity' images you can upload for (specifically) your userpage.
#Similarly, it seems a lot of people upload their fanart just to share it, but they only put it in [[:Category:Fan art]] and don't link it anywhere else. I'm pretty sure CWCki isn't intended to be a dump-all for CWC-related art. That's what [[ED]] (lol) and [[DeviantArt]] are for. And the torrent.
#Lastly, is it really necessary to keep the userpages of vandals like [[User:Sean Connery]] and [[User:CWCki is Communism]]? Couldn't we just delete them and then block them from re-creation?
--[[User:Whoreos n' Milf|Whoreos n' Milf]] 20:14, 6 October 2009 (CEST)
:*Not to be rude, but allow me to answer some of these:
:#I'll think about it. There's already a lot of admins/jerkops and most of them really don't need to do anything, even in a case of vandalism.
:#Just use the regular deletion tag, that works fine.
:#I think most people are good about vanity images. If there's someone who abuses this, an admin or jerkop can say something.
:#The whole idea of the Fan index is to provide a place for people to display their Sonichu/Chris related fan art where people will notice it (as opposed to being drowned in a sea of Sonic recolors on DeviantArt) since PVCC has closed account registration and that's where most people would go to post their fan art. Ideally, we should find ways to incorporate fan art into articles.
:#Eh, it's a good way to shame them. If it gets to be a problem, we'll delete them then.
:Okay, that's all I can think of for now since I need to get some sleep. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:56, 11 October 2009 (CEST)
::*On the note of number 5, I think posting a message saying "BANNED" like we have is sufficient. It's not necessary to make a tribute like [[ED]] or a [http://wiki.patrioticnigras.org/wiki/User:Lolatthefactyouthinkyoucanstopme total Arc De Fail like we do on the Patriotic Nigra Wiki.]--[[image:spinningwindmill.gif|30px]] [[User:Anon1Guardian|DrSerbia]][[image:datass.jpg|40px]] 05:06, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

==Resource Leak==
I could be wrong, but it seems that thumbnails aren't auto-generated. Rather, they are stored server-side for use in a page. The problem is, the thumbnails are horrible space wasters.
[[:Image:Soldier of Love and Honesty.png|This image]] is 11.4kb, however, the [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcki/images/thumb/b/b9/Soldier_of_Love_and_Honesty.png/200px-Soldier_of_Love_and_Honesty.png 200px thumbnail] is 77.6 kb! This seems to be caused by the severe artifacting of the white background in the thumbnail. I don't know if there's anything you can do about this, but I thought I'd let you know. The original image could actually be trimmed to a 200px width without losing any of the art itself. --[[User:Whoreos n' Milf|Whoreos n' Milf]] 23:00, 17 October 2009 (CEST)
*yeah, it's an issue with the image library we're using. i don't think there's really anything i can do about that, but i wouldn't worry too much, we should have more than enough space to accommodate thumbnails. i really do wish we could use imagemagick, though, so we wouldn't have this problem... --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 23:13, 17 October 2009 (CEST)

==Destin==
I made a mistake and misread Destin's edits. I have already apologized to him. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 11:13, 24 October 2009 (CEST)

== My Ban ==

First things first, I suppose. I'll say that I do feel kind of bad about how I reacted to your claims yesterday, Ms. Dev. My reaction was unncessarily aggressive, and I certainly could have defended myself in a much more appropriate way. So, I'm sorry. I apologize for my unruly response and my claim that you and your co-mods had failed.

However, I'm not quite finished with what I have to say. I find it kind of asinine that you banned me, and ''then'' you came to my discussion page to apologize to me. While I would like to accept your apology, doing that makes it awful difficult for me to take your apology seriously. I accept FS's, and I would accept Champ's, too, if he gave one (though he doesn't really have much to apologize for), but that's because they didn't go ahead and ban me before apologizing.

That said, I think your reaction to ''my reaction'' is fairly ridiculous, too. You make little sense, and I think you merely banned me because you didn't like being told off. You claim that this Wiki is to document Chris, not mock him? Straight from the article entitled "A Quick Guide to CWCki":

"So, you wish to edit the wiki on the Internet's most beloved and most hated autistic manchild?"

This isn't mocking? After reading that, I clicked the "random page" button twice, and I ended up on the page called "CWCipedia", and found the sentence "CWCipedia also serves as the ultimate test of the use of MediaWiki software and software usability, in which it strives to create a platform that even a autistic manchild/lazy fuck can easily use." After reading something like that, I think it's an exceptional load of crap that you're trying to act like this site is designed to document him. It's designed to have laughs at his expense, and you know damn well that it is.

And why should you care if ''I'' bash him, anyway? After, I'm merely adding to the humor of the site and doing what I'm encouraged to do in the "Quick Guide" section named "POV is the norm" where it says:

"CWCki's guide is to document the Internet phenomena of Chris-chan for troll purposes. Given that the manchild has clearly shown to be racist, homophobic, and just plain perverted, not to mention he proclaims himself to be some sort of celebrity, it's only fair he gets the negative criticism that comes with being a celebrity.

So go ahead, bash him."

As I've pointed out, you don't stop anyone else. In fact, you encourage them. Well, in all fairness, I won't repeat the mistake that you made with me, and, as a result, I won't claim that you wrote that, considering that the history of the page seems to suggest otherwise. But... you don't seem to mind your co-moderators writing it in as a policy for ''your Wiki''.

Anyway, I made a Chris-bashing edit to a page (which no on else deemed irrelevant enough to have it removed), and, after a load of drama, I'm in the wrong for making that edit? That's horse shit. On top of claiming that you're not here to mock him (which I've already refuted, as far as I'm concerned), you say that I should make more relevant edits. That's also horse shit. I have no obligation to you to make edits how ''you'' see fit. You put people under no obligation to edit the things you want editted whom simply read the Wiki and lurk. But, when people come along, and stop lurking for a bit to add to the humor of the site, they automatically become your minions? That's bullshit. I have no more or less obligation to you than the average lurker; you don't pay me, you don't give me ''exceptional'' priveleges, and I don't want you to do either. I just want to have some fun here and enjoy the site, and my enjoyment doesn't seem to have detracted from the goal of the Wiki in any way. CWCki really isn't serious business, and I'm sure you don't need me to explain that to you. So... I fail to accept the idea that my edit was not acceptable by your Wiki's standards. As I said earlier, I think you're just making stuff up to justify banning me for telling you off.

All-in-all, my point is this: on top of the fact that your reasons for banning me seem to be either petty, hyprocritical, or both, you're also not going to stop me from making edits to your Wiki by banning me. I'm not even writing these from my normal residence. Plus, there are plenty of proxies, and there are many of other places I can go to get new IPs and make edits, if I so desire. So... we can come to terms on this, and move on, or we can keep playing the pointless ban game, and, well, I'm done rambling here for now. It's your turn to play.

D-Dizzle, fa reeeeel
--[[User:RevengeOfTheDestinMan|RevengeOfTheDestinMan]] 21:01, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
*well, three things to note, then:
# [[CWCki:CWCki_is#CWCki_is_not_ED]]. we aren't here to mock, we're here to let chris speak for himself.
# as you said, it's my wiki. so, i determine what is acceptable and what is not. i didn't have a problem with you, until you decided to disregard my advice, and told me that you'd continue making what are ultimately pointless edits. i don't like making things into serious business, but when you start being deliberately annoying, then we have a problem.
# i won't look around for any new accounts you make on proxies, but i will be banning this one for ban evasion. you were banned for being a faggot. sure, we made a mistake, so you tell us so. you don't "tell [us] off" if you "just want to have some fun here". if you want your first account unbanned, do something to impress champthom and then ask him nicely
so long as you aren't being a vandal or a faggot, we won't have any further problems. now stop acting like you have any rights around here, it's my site and i'll do whatever the fuck i want to do --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 21:52, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
*
# You and I both know that this one isn't true. That's why this Wiki exists while CWCipedia exists. In fact, I remember reading about that somewhere on this site, probably on the CWCipedia page, but I don't care enough to wave it in your face, because we all know that this was made so Chris ''wouldn't'' get to always have his say. ...Quit trying to pass this off as some noble effort.
# I disregarded your advice because it was unwarranted. You have no ''logical'' grounds (though powertrip grounds may apply) to expect some random person to edit things pages that you want them to. Also, as I said, you defy logic by only seeming to care when ''I'' make minor edits, and never when anyone else does. Anyway, why the hell would I want to make major contributions when I get bitched at for making meager efforts? And... as for me being deliberately annoying... honestly? I was refuting the accusations of you and two other moderators. Is it really so annoying to point out that you guys made a mistake? Or was it my irritated tone that was so annoying (and that only occurred once)? Now, I can be a real son of a bitch asshole fucktard vandal if I want to be. I won't. I'm not that way, so I'll spare you and your mods the tedium of chasing through articles to fix edits, but you find me (though angrily) telling you that you were wrong in accusing me to be annoying? Yeah, I guess maybe it ''is'' annoying to realize that you made a mistake, and that this person isn't being totally pleasant with you about it, but there are ways to deal with annoyances (especially fairly minor ones) that are far more logical than banning the person responsible. Yes, I know you have the grand power to kick people off of your Wiki, but, again, I ask that you consider this in ''logical'' terms, where banning people for minor annoyances makes for a tense community. Now, since we've already discussed your amount of power, I suppose you can have a tense community if you really want one, but I doubt you really do want that, and you're only making things worse by the way you keep acting about this. I was hoping you wouldn't react like this to my post here, but... you do make things ever so complicated for both of us....
# 'sure, we made a mistake, so you tell us so. you don't "tell [us] off" if you "just want to have some fun here".' As I thought I made clear, I'm sorry about "telling you off". There's no need to bring that up any more. I'm sorry about it. Chiding me more for it doesn't make me any more sorry. I admit that that was my mistake. However, I think you're confused if you think I was doing it to have some fun. When I was talking about having fun here, I was talking about my edit to the video. I don't bitch at people for fun. Well... maybe... but not in this case. And, yes, you're right. I have no rights here. However, I merely suggest that maybe you treat people as though they do have some rights. It's just a suggestion. It makes your place more enjoyable for everyone, though maybe you don't care about that so much. Once I get back to my normal residence, though, I can easily circumvent your system without you ever realizing. And, in spite of all your hateful rage and rights-denying, I can actually become a valid member of your Wiki (if I actually wanted that). Hell, I could become your best friend if I really wanted to. Imagine that! Me and you, total pals! What a tight-knit posse we could make! Oh, the adventures we'd have! Games of kickball at the park. Tossing a frisbee in a field! Raiding caves for secret treasure! Why, we'd be like Bonnie and Clyde (Cash). Really, imagine that! That's how close we could get, without you ever realizing (though... don't take this the wrong way; I worry that I'm starting to sound like Chris). You get my point... well... assuming you understand that these sentences are drenched with sarcasm. So, yes, do as you please, but your efforts to ban me are pointless, and I really think it's very much in your benefit to act a bit more rationally here, because I really don't think that continuing to ban me and chide me is going to make you look better. I mean... banning me for ban evasion of a ban that I didn't deserve in the first place doesn't really make sense. Please, just think about it a bit. G'day, ma'am. --[[User:MoreDestination|MoreDestination]] 22:29, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
*Sweet Jesus, why didn't you just let it go. Now you are starting some talkpage war over a privately owned wiki about a retarded manchild cause you disagree about how a misunderstanding was handled. Do you want to edit or not? You either edit here and have fun with us or fuck off. Most people find the process pretty simple: Document Chris while being factual yet snarky. Is that so hard? --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:40, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
*There's subtle mocking which is what we do, versus outright "DO IT FOR THE LULZ" sort of mocking ED does. CWCki is relied upon moreso than ED because we don't so much go out of our way to be funny, we focus more on documenting and in documenting Chris, we mock him by pointing out his personal flaws and how fucked up he is. It's a different sort of humor.
:Really, people (and I'm addressing this not just to Destin but everyone reading this), if you ever feel angry about something on CWCki, shut off your computer and take a walk or at least play a game or something like that. Then remind yourself you're getting angry over a wiki about an autistic manchild.
:If this is over the "Jew" thing in [[I Love You Kacey]], I'll tell you what I object about it - it is making a misleading transcript to make a nod at someone. If Chris actually said "Jew," that's alright and yes, Chris does have a tendency to slur "you" so it sounds like "jew" because he's attempting to say "you' in a cutsy way. But that's kinda overdoing it. Maybe if Chris actually says Jew, then it'd be an appropriate nod - it's like how there's an Anonymous quote which the link of Anonymous links to our [[User:Anonymous|beloved #1 user]] (seriously, he's the only dude who registered before me but after cogs).
:Words of wisdom - don't mess with cogs, anyone who knows her well like I do would advise similarly. Ultimately, it's her website and she has the final say. I don't always agree with cogs but I do respect her decisions as founder and I generally avoid trying to undo what she does because that would set a bad precedent. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:15, 25 October 2009 (CEST)
:*Okay, I forgot about Fuckingstupid saying he made a mistake. I've made a similar mistake too before about accusing someone for a bad edit. It happens, we're only human. But really, don't freak out - just say "I believe you're mistaken" and show them. Bitching only makes things worse and makes people less sympathetic to your case, even if you are right. In any case, I wanted to air about the Jew thing.
::Likewise, this is in general, let's try and not bite people's head off in letting them know about bad edits. [[Wikipedia:Don't_bite_the_newcomer|This]] is a decent guide at Wikipedia's approach at this sort of thing and I think it's alright. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:22, 25 October 2009 (CEST)
:::*Exactly, I made a mistake and now we are all paying for it. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:34, 25 October 2009 (CEST)

*destin, you don't quite seem to understand a simple rule of the internet. i own this website. therefore, any ban i hand out is justified, no matter what you might think. rather than bitching on and on about how it's an unjust ban and evading and so forth, you should instead be accepting the ban as valid and working to correct your behaviour, if you wish to contribute. i've told you already: if you give us something useful, we'll unban you. simple, right? we've discussed this more than enough. any further comments from you will be considered vandalism and reverted. --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 02:05, 25 October 2009 (CET)

:*You should have a ban evasion sub-page so the rest of us don't have to scroll through this tl;dr nonsense lol --15:35, 3 November 2009 (CET)

== Request ==
A friend of mine was interesting in joing the PVCC.
So, can he join?--[[User:Gourmetpickle|Gourmetpickle]] 22:27, 26 October 2009 (CET)
*probably not, i don't know who he is --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 22:59, 26 October 2009 (CET)

== How about all videos in one template? ==

There are 4 or so right now. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 16:56, 28 October 2009 (CET)
*wha...? --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 18:01, 28 October 2009 (CET)

Captain's log, game videos, other vides, music videos, I'm on TV. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 18:14, 28 October 2009 (CET)

:*Sonijew, that's the big plan I was hinting at before when I responded to your complaint over me splitting off the game videos. Have patience! I'm working on just such a template piece-by-piece! [[User:Llort|Llort]] 18:42, 28 October 2009 (CET)

== Hi, regarding renaming/recategorizing pages ==

[[Captain's Log, Stardate February 5th, 2009]] should be [[Gaybian videos]] and in Clyde Cash videos. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 08:27, 31 October 2009 (CET)

And the similar thing for [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 23rd, 2009]] too. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 08:46, 31 October 2009 (CET)

:*I'll see what I can zap up for ya... :3 [[User:Llort|Llort]] 19:19, 31 October 2009 (CET)

[[Captain's Log, Stardate January 12th, 2009]] is no Captain's Log too. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 16:42, 3 November 2009 (CET)

==Re; player plugin==
[[Image:Awesome micro.png|Awesome]], I'll get to work on gathering clips and putting together a tutorial page. --[[User:Whoreos n' Milf|Whoreos n' Milf]] 15:35, 3 November 2009 (CET)

== Cogs ==

Ahoy, I want to finally join PVCC in the interest of gathering more information to help me write moar CWCki, and I figured you were the one to pester about how to go about doing this. --[[User:Sonicow|Sonicow]] 23:10, 7 November 2009 (CET)
*Unless account activation just ''happens'' to be totally deactivated which I now notice at the top of the page. FML --[[User:Sonicow|Sonicow]] 23:12, 7 November 2009 (CET)

==Succession template==

The changes that you made to [[Template:Succession]] caused existing instances of the template to stop functioning properly. I tried a couple times to remove what looked to me to be redundant or erroneous code, but I still couldn't get the template working again. Do you think you might be able to fix whatever went haywire? [[User:Llort|Llort]] 03:56, 10 November 2009 (CET)
*check the template page. previously, the parameters weren't named, it decided which was which based on its number. if you want to save time, i'd recommend using the template in a new template and set the prevlink and nextlink parameters as {{{1}}} and {{{2}}} respectively - that way, you won't have to enter all the parameters every time, just enter {{NewTemplate|Previous Article|Next Article}} and it'll be fine. --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 11:20, 10 November 2009 (CET)

==I have a Question==
Is it true you're a girl?--[[User:Sonichuistehcool|Sonichuistehcool]] 23:30, 20 November 2009 (CET)
*If you look inside your heart, you will find the answer. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:53, 21 November 2009 (CET)

I have one too: Who is the Sysop on Cwcipedia? Is it you? --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 23:56, 20 November 2009 (CET)
*Cogs and myself share Sysop privileges but I only intervene when necessary, such as when she posted a card image that only a troll would have had access to, since it came from the leaked [[Scrapbook of Fail]] or when I recommended that Chris do a heart level thing (which a CWCkipedian came up with) or when I moved a message Cogs posted to the top since Chris is a lazy ass who wouldn't see it at the bottom. But otherwise, yeah, it's cogs 99% of the time. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:47, 21 November 2009 (CET)
**I think Champthom and Cogsdev are a pretty brave guy, ethy wade through unfiltered Chris everyday and dosen't afaraid of insanity.--[[User:Sonichuistehcool|Sonichuistehcool]] 03:53, 21 November 2009 (CET)
**clyde has access too, he's been helping with the mailbag shit --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 22:13, 21 November 2009 (CET)

== [[My big 18th party (story)]] ==

Could you please remove the (story) from this title? There's no need for it. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 05:15, 3 December 2009 (CET)
*Oh, and please to be moving [[R.L.Stine]] to [[R.L. Stine]]. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 17:22, 3 December 2009 (CET)
:*Mucho grassy ass. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 23:48, 3 December 2009 (CET)

== Sig. Images ==

Do you know if there's a way I can make my little image after my signature automatic without typing the code after every signature? Let me know if you know how or who I should talk to. --[[User:Anon1Guardian|Anon1Guardian]] 23:28, 5 December 2009 (CET)[[Image:anonlaugh.png|50px]]
* [http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Encyclopedia_Dramatica:Help/Markup#Customized_sigs ED has some info on customizing sigs] --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 20:20, 6 December 2009 (CET)

== Taxpayermoney ==

You did realize my edit to {{tl|Taxpayermoney}} was to remove a redlinked category, right? I have since made the category, so we both win. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 07:12, 10 December 2009 (CET)
*huh? the purpose of my edit was to remake the whole template in wikitext, you made the edit after i started editing but before i hit submit. also what's up with [[Template:tl]], you link to a template like this:

<nowiki>[[Template:Taxpayermoney]]</nowiki>
i think i added that template because some weird wikipedia template depended on it. oh well, guess i'll leave it there, don't want to break anything
--[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 06:25, 11 December 2009 (CET)

==Problem with page titles==
Some people are complaining about page titles, like apparently they've suddenly broken. For instance, Pokemon (with the dash over the e) suddenly turned into '''PokÃ©mon.''' Same deal with Regime Fil Aimes. Sounds more like a technical MediaWiki deal, any idea what's going on? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:32, 10 December 2009 (CET)
*probably a database error. i imagine it has something to do with unicode, so maybe it should be policy to only use ordinary characters(i.e., no accents) in page titles? --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 06:29, 11 December 2009 (CET)
**If that's going to be a problem, be sure to change [[Naïve]] --[[User:Megaman|''Megaman!'' ]] [[Image:MegaManXRunning.gif]] 07:20, 11 December 2009 (CET)
:*Since this is old news, I removed the brackets from the word 'PokÃ©mon,' to get it off the "Wanted Pages" list. --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 23:49, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

== Proofreading ==

Any chance we could organize some sort of proofreading drive? I've noticed far too many typos and grammatical errors in the articles, not to mention bad wiki formatting. (For instance, the proper way to bold the text at the start of an article is <nowiki>'''like this'''</nowiki>, but most articles have it <nowiki>[[like this]]</nowiki> instead.) [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 08:03, 11 December 2009 (CET)
*With authority granted to me by my admin powers, I hereby dub you Head Grammar Nazi in charge of The Final Solution to addressing the grammar problem on CWCki. [[:CWCki:Operation Grammatification]] is yours to do with as you will to organize a proofreading drive. You have also been cleared for Super High Priority on the [[:CWCki:Priority Listing|priority list]].

:Also, what's the dillio with the bolding? I mean, if you're referring to the article name, you can do that because 1) it's the article itself and 2) it saves a few bits because it takes one less character to do it and 3) it works. Perhaps our resident [[User:Wwwwolf|wiki <strike>pedo</strike> wizard]] can clear it up. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:25, 11 December 2009 (CET)

:*Proofreading drive?! To me, that's virtually pornographic. ''Definitely'' fap-worthy. --[[User:Tristran|Tristran]] 08:48, 11 December 2009 (CET)
*I created [[CWCki:Operation Grammatification]]. Care to help me shill it? [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 19:17, 11 December 2009 (CET)
:*P.S. Do I need to be a jerkop to have pagemove rights? [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 19:32, 11 December 2009 (CET)
:**I will gladly assist you, good sir. --[[User:Tristran|Tristran]] 21:03, 11 December 2009 (CET)
*can people please stop using html for tables? wiki tables exist for a reason, please [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Table learn to use them] --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 02:18, 12 December 2009 (CET)

== Re: PVCC logo ==

Here's a link to the PVCC logo in illustrator format.[http://www.4shared.com/file/137811560/b1a824eb/PVCClogosmall.html] It's free use(libre) if that wasn't already implied, sorry for taking so long to respond, har. Drop me a message if you want anything else vectorized or whatever. --[[User:Ror|Ror]] 19:52, 15 December 2009 (CET)

==Steam==
Do you manage the Steam PVCC user group, and if so, are there any requirements to join? --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 12:43, 27 December 2009 (CET)

==Emails sent to chris.==
If you are the sysop of cwcipedia, please include my newest email sent to him, on Jan 7. The text can be found on my user page.

==Asperpedia Ad for intro image==
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3276/asperpediaad.jpg
Idea:
1. Replace "introduction image"
2. Protect image so can't be replaced or reuploaded
3. Profit
[[User:Elephant|Elephant]] 03:05, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

==Special:ListFiles==
Can you take a look at [[Special:ListFiles]]? The page loads the list of files, but the search function is broken... it worked on the 110MB CWCki, and was really useful. Thanks in advance =) --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 04:34, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
*works fine for me, but i haven't tested it much. what exactly was the problem? --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 15:35, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
**Compare these: [http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/Special:ListFiles?limit=50&ilsearch=Schu&title=Special%3AListFiles New CWCki] and [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcki/index.php/Special:Imagelist?limit=50&ilsearch=Schu&title=Special%3AImagelist Old CWCki]. The same files exist on both sites, but one search is pulling up all file names that include the characters "Schu" while the other only pulls up one. And weirdly it's picking the one where the characters exist in the middle of the name, rather than the beginning. --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 03:14, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
***that is pretty weird... it doesn't seem to recognise the first character of a search. i'll look this up but i'm not sure what i can do to fix it. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 22:36, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

== My videos ==

I'm not sure if you'll want these or not; but if you're recording everything Chris dose then you may want the videos I've posted on my user page.

If not you should check 'em out anyway... I find it funny how Chris thinks every voice he can do is better than ours.

http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/User:Jester

==Implement Database CGI for listing Chris's Videos?==
I have come under the impression that the [[List of Videos|list of Chris's video ]] is starting to become crowded, and that it's only going to become worse. Moreover, I think that it would be nice if we can have a script that could sort his videos by his date, his performance type, etc.

So I thought that it would be nice if we use a CGI program that could list/sort his videos.

I have knowledge with websites, and I have dealt with CGI programs before. Japanese websites are the best for finding a free CGI database program, which I am able to translate so that it would fit into the CWCki. (if time permits, of course)

But for now, do you agree with this idea?
--[[User:Shogun|Shogun]] 00:58, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
*i thought that's what [[Table of Videos]] was for --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 13:17, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

==Repeat PVCC Registration Attempts==

I'm not sure about anyone else, but I think one reason behind this is because the page has no prompt confirming when you've successfully submitted the request (At least I didn't get one). I had a lot of trouble with the confirmation code and I had no idea I'd got it right until it told me that the name was already in use. I used the same name I used on here, so I figured [[Liquid Chris|someone else]] had taken it. I started trying another name and figured I was just screwing up the confirmation code again until it told me that the other name had been taken. I finally got the hint after that.

TL;DR: I think a prompt confirming that a new account is awaiting confirmation would cut down the repeat registrations. [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 15:16, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
*it's supposed to tell you that your account has been submitted and is awaiting approval. if it isn't, then that's probably the result of errors left over from the move from 110mb. i might just disable registrations entirely and manually make accounts for people if that's the case, since it'll be kind of hard to fix --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 16:41, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

*Yeah, I was registering an account last night, and I accidentally set up 2 profiles! You need to fix that shit Cogs, and undo my permaban.
--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 22:28, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

** Honestly when I tried to register, and forgive me if I registerd more than once, I kept getting a message declaring that I had fucked up the confirmation code, hopefully it's just my inability to figure out the PVCC's conifrmations code style.-- [[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 4:56, 7 March 2010 (EST)

it's broken, and i can't be arsed fixing it because it's not like i approve new accounts anyway --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 12:48, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

* Yeah that is true seeing as if you did PVCC would overflow with ED users posting "such marvelous gems of threads" such as "Ivy wuz a blowup doll lol" or some stupid shit lke that.-- [[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 8:08, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

I tried to register, but no response. In the case that you might manually authorise me (or not), I'd like to join PVCC because I've thought up some good trolling schemes and I'd like to put them in to action. If you'd like to hear my ideas or otherwise want to talk to me further, respond on my talk page. [[User:Joe Da Moo|Joe Da Moo]] 21:00, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I just tried registering a little while ago and I got a 500 error or something with no confirmation e-mail. Do you think you could confirm my account, please? I assure you I'm not an ED fag. --[[User:Mezase Master|Mezase Master]] 07:33, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== Color coding and stuff ==

Two questions:
# I'm trying to reformat the IRC chats, and that includes color coding. What color do you want to be?
# I'd kinda like to sign up for the PVCC. Is it even worth trying?
Thanks a bunch. --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 17:41, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
* well, i don't think there's any particular rules regards color coding, and i don't mind so long as it's easily readable. also, go ahead and sign up for PVCC, we kind of need some new users anyway. just uh, keep in mind i might forget to approve you, and only sign up once(even if it looks like the attempt failed) --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 19:47, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
**I think I signed up twice because I fucked up the Captcha. My bad. :( --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 23:45, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

== Community Portal rename=%3D

Just curious, is it possible to rename Community Portal? I mean, it's a fine name but maybe we should give it something more CWC related? We could solicit some feedback but first I'm wondering if it's possible. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:51, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
* well, that's the default name mediawiki gives it. i was thinking we could do what most other wikis do, and have the community portal be... well, a portal, to other discussion pages about various topics. thoughts? --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 17:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

== A small question ==

I want to know, is it possible to add a new "Chris and..." page regarding his lack of knowledge about science or "biologee" at least? It could include "recycling", and how the Sonichu's and Rosechu's biology is not something that could live in any world real or pokemon without becoming extinct in less than 100 years.

P.S. Sorry if it comes out awkward. this is my first post and i'm still not completely used to the format.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 23:25, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

== PVCC Registration ==

Excuse my bothering you via the CWCki but I submitted a registration for the PVCC and I'm just posting here to let you know it's me and not some troll. I was mainly interested in just finding and updating some article citations on the CWCki using posts from the PVCC - some of which currently link to the old PVCC forum. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 19:55, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I have also submitted a registration so that I can start making good edits to this wki, but I also understand that in the past you've grown to hate a few new members here or there, so I understand if I'm not approved.[[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 20:40, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Yet another person who registered in vain. On "CWCki is" it says the CWCki is not a forum. The PVCC should be the forum for CWCkians (I refuse to use the term CWCkipedians). #sonichu is not a forum but a chat room, and /cwc/ seems to be regarded as a lesser community from what I gathered. Is there some sort of elitism in keeping the PVCC locked away from anyone new? --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 05:42, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
*it's not like there's anything worth joining for, it's barely about chris anymore. the reason why nobody new is allowed in is because they wouldn't fit in and it's a pain to deal with people making accounts all the time that will never be approved. regards the cwcki having some sort of forum, i guess the community portal should really be sorted into more of a... well, portal. your edit has been read fully, and your thoughts have been inputed and accepted for better improvement. thank you for your time and efforts. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 00:30, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
*So it's now all in-jokes and such now? Makes me even sadder to be a n00b, then. I'm always late to anything good. Might as well make whatever Chris-related stuff there freely viewable, then, and then have private sub-forums for the in-jokes. As Anonymax said, some citations link to the PVCC.

Also, the Community Portal seems like a CWCki-wide version of the discussion pages, which are meant to be strictly for improving the content of the page. I was looking for a place to intelligently (read: without clowns screaming "Dig up Patti!" and "JULAY!") discuss Chris. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 02:49, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

==Contacting the Wallflower==
In light of Chris dropping her full name on the Cwcipedia, do you think it'd be a good idea to let the Wallflower know that Chris is putting information up on her? It looks like he may even make a full page dedicated to her. --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 02:57, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

==Wallflower Policy==

Hi Cogs. Since [[user:Ronichu|newfags]] and [[user:Ronichu|retards]] keep constantly asking about it, I've drafted a section which I've termed "The Wallflower Policy". Can you approve, ammend or reject it for the main Wallflower page? It's at [[Talk:The_Wallflower#Stating CWCki Policy]].

== What is your problem? ==
What are you doing Cogs? What have you got against me? I don't like Chris or Sonichu beyond anyone else here, I don't do any of the furry sex stuff that Sonichu and the others do, and I haven't taken any of this twitter crap onto the CWCki. All I do is fuck around a few minutes day making jokes about killing Sonichu's kids. Why is this necessary? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:00, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
* you fly with the crows, you get tarred with the same brush. or however that saying goes. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 17:05, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
**Is there anything I can do to get that removed? I don't want to cause a big argument on here and I don't want to be involved in the whole Twitter thing if its going to cause all this. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:08, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
***Yeah, I'm with Edward. Anything that can get us started on the road to redemption? My Twitter accounts have been dead for 2 days now (since YawningSquirtleRedux warned me to stay away from them), and my Twitter days are over and done with. --[[User:Alcoholic Legend|Alcoholic Legend]] 17:11, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

== Redirect problem. ==

I can't access any cogsdev.org sites from my home internet. It says there's some sort of redirect problem. Is there anything you can do to fix this?

Thanks a bunch. --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 21:28, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
*your IP probably got blocked for spamming requests. wait for your IP to change, and in future, don't use firefox --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 22:40, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
*It's not Firefox to blame. I was using Chrome before I had problems. I suspect it's a rare server error and the page which handles the error message for it causes the large amount of requests. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 00:14, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:*Well it's working now. The firefox message mentioned looping requests, but in the future I can use Chrome, if you think that'll help.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 01:48, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
::*The redirect loop is probably how the server handles blocks. I'm still unsure as to why there is a mass of requests being sent to the server - apparently before we encounter the redirect loop. I ended up blocked due to request spam - and I wasn't using Firefox. --01:53, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== sorry about rolling back that edit ==

chrome decided it didn't want to redraw itself anymore --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 17:12, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

== I beg forgiveness ==

I will pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. I understand what I must not do. This will carry over into future operations and circumstances. What can I do to prove my loyalty to the motherland?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 08:44, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
*quit bein a fag --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 08:48, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
**understood.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 08:50, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

== About deleting that template ==

I know what I did really lacked good judgment and I apologize for acting like an idiot. I should have waited for an admin's opinion before doing anything. If you give me back my jerkop status, I can guarantee such thing will not happen again. --[[User:Jerkop|Jerkop]] 15:46, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
* ask champthom in a week or so, tell him i said you could have your jerkop status back then --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 16:26, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
:*OK, thanks.--[[User:Jerkop|Jerkop]] 16:29, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

==My case for keeping Afternoon around==
I hate to bother you, but I think it's only fair that you hear my defense of ''Afternoon'' before it gets axed. I really don't think it fits any of the criteria you define as bad fanworks. It's not my attempt at rewriting ''Sonichu''; I don't retread any of the plot. Kitty isn't an original character. I know that she acts wildly out of her original characterization in my story, but that's true of most fanwork. Even the great ''Sonichu is Dead'' had the title character behaving completely different from how Chris writes him. And Kitty isn't my fursona; I'm not a furry and I have no fursona. I know I've semi-jokingly described her as a bit of a Sue in past, but I just meant that she was fun to write. ''Afternoon'' isn't some kind of power fantasy; it's just about torturing Chris's least popular characters for the amusement of the readers. If you still think it's not relevant to the wiki or that Chris's own role in it isn't big enough, I'll respect your decision and take the thing elsewhere. I just wanted you to hear my side of the story. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 03:33, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

==I need something answered...==
Chris has been very quite lately. So I want to do something to piss him off and get him back on [[Youtube]]. Something so original, not even the [[Clyde Cash|King of Trolling]] himself could of thought up. So here is the big question: What hasn't any troll done or would think of doing that would effect Chris to the point of yelling at a camera?

[[User:Galaxyguy159|GalaxyGuy159]]
*First of all, sign your posts properly. It's 4 tildes (~) after your post. Secondly, this is not a trolling site. This is a site to document Chris' actions. If you want a trolling base, go elsewhere. Finally, if there were something someone thought of to get Chris back, they would either A: Execute the plan him/herself, B: Give the plan to a more experienced troll, or C: Give the plan to a trusted FA. Any way you look at it, the plan wouldn't be put on a wiki and it wouldn't be given to an inexperienced member, which includes not only you, but almost everyone on this wiki (e.g. me). [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 18:35, 2 August 2010 (PDT)
:*The above is FACT. Also, the best trolls don't plan on trolling. Asperchu was just a couple of oneoffs, for instance, and Liquid never imagined things would get as big as they did. If you want my tip, TRY things. People will call you a faggot, but that's because until something works all plans SOUND retarded because nobody aside from Chris would ever fall for them. So, in short, DO IT FAGGOT, don't be afraid to try things but don't fuck with other trolls plans, and lurk more. And... Yeah. This isn't a trolling place, only for documenting, so take your questions elsewhere in the future. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 18:50, 2 August 2010 (PDT)

== Favicon ==

Cogs, any way we could get a favicon for the CWCki? Like, maybe a brown and yellow Pokeball? We can solicit suggestions from users, but it'd help to ask you first if that's something you could do.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:54, 23 August 2010 (PDT)

== CWCipedia archive ==

*As I am dealing with the 110mb external links, I found that this archived version of CWCipedia includes unreverted vandalism on March, such as those on the [http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Mailbag_51 mailbag] pages, is it supposed to be so? Regards, [[User:Nechita|Nechita]] 02:48, 24 August 2010 (PDT)

== PVCC registration ==

I know that many people are being annoying by reregistering, but you really shouldn't completely disable registration, as there are some people (including me) that would be a good addition to the forum that are shut out by this. Not sure if the forum software allows for this, but maybe you could disable registering more than once per person (possibly by ip adress and/or cookies?) [[User:Sodahollic|Sodahollic]] 14:40, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
*Registration of accounts is done on a basis of time spent hanging around IRC and your behavior there, contribution to the CWCki, or at the discretion of the forum admins. [[User:CrassCrab|CrassCrab]] 16:16, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

== What? ==

My parents are divorced..so yeah, I live in ND some of the time and VA the rest...though it is true that I no longer work at Wal-Mart (as of about 3 weeks ago).
--[[User:Kitsune|Kitsune]] 13:41, 23 December 2010 (PST)

==Denouncing past faggotry==

Hello Cogs, long time no see. I just wanted to apologize for this past drama involving Legi0n and other sites I would rather not get into. I've had some time away from the CWCki to rethink my poor choices in judgement, and I just wanted to say that I'm willing to get off to a fresh start to benefit this site, as well as its users. I cannot promise anything to you, but the most I can do is try so that nothing like what I caused in the past ever happens again. I am sincerely sorry, and I will do my best to stay out of everyone's way in the future. --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]] 09:33, 10 February 2011 (PST)
*Cogs has had some "away time" too. Three edits since September, and the last one was a month ago. Champ's the only active admin. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(Talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|(Contributions)]] 09:37, 10 February 2011 (PST)

==I'm not sure if I can do this but==

I'd like to contest the blocks of Ror and Pfargtl9000 (sorry, Goatselover, but you don't do much) on the grounds that Ror has a Gold Star Bounty and a Requested Template Award (both of which prove that he's useful and is here to contribute) and because Pfargtl9000 has nearly 2,500 edits spanning over a year. They both are useful to the wiki and I think blocking them for a year for holding an opinion/misconception (especially when the wiki is already sieving veteran editors) is counterproductive. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 10:28, 28 April 2011 (PDT)
* this wiki is overmaintained, i don't really care --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 22:53, 28 April 2011 (PDT)

==ThePCAssassins Prank Calls Page==
Other than the obvious exploitation of CWC for eFame is there any reason why the prank calls shouldn't be recorded here? Sure, most of the information is irrelevant or we already know about the so called insights Bob gives but I'm sure eventually something good might come of it. Probably. [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 05:51, 19 May 2011 (PDT)
* no [[User:Sully|Sully]] 20:12, 19 May 2011 (PDT)

User talk:The Iconoclast

2011-01-16T19:03:24Z

Sully:

== Tips ==
Messages should go on the talk page, bro. I've already moved your post over there. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 23:14, 6 January 2011 (PST)

==We're a lot alike, you and me... ==
In what way are you not like Chris? Because you seem at least as pathetic as him. I guess plagiarists need to stick together, eh? [[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]]
::Lets see: Widespread <s>plagiarism</s> artistic borrowing, a lack of artistic unity, a lack of professional quality in works that are presented as such (hello vanity publishing/sonichu copyright), self promotion in unrelated places, and a superpowered SI surrounded by <s>boyfriend free girls</s> women to make up for an underwhelming real life... Yeah, it's like I'm reading Sonichu© light. We've even got the same regurgitation of tv lines. - [[User:Kei|Kei]] 12:14, 8 January 2011 (PST)
:::You're just another faggot who says "I'm better than Chris" to justify their existence while at the same time doing the same stupid bullshit (making comics NO ONE READS) at the same time. Go away. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 11:56, 15 January 2011 (PST)

==i don't like you==
You're just another faggot who says "I'm better than the people who troll Chris who ARE EVIL PEOPLE so therefore I'm fucking awesome" to justify their existence while at the same time doing stupid bullshit (making comics almost 5 people read) at the same time. Go away. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 01:50, 16 January 2011 (PST)

==sup son==
Your one of my least favourite members on this board. Your litteraly homosexual, your a furry, your a juggalo, you like fat women, you wanted to fuck your mother, you mother fucker, you like to take it up the ass and suck dick and u brag about it, and u think you are way funnier than you really are. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 11:03, 16 January 2011 (PST)

Talk:2012

2011-01-04T22:37:21Z

Sully:

Ok guys, even Offshore CWCki knows this page is fucking retarded. AS IN NOT EVEN THEY LAUGHED AT YOUR SHIT. Stop adding your lame jokes now guys. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 00:58, 3 January 2011 (PST)

If there was a physical CWCki Editing Guide there would be a screenshot of this "article" with DON'T DO THIS YOU FAGGOT written across it on the first page. Anybody that played a noteworthy role in the current state of the "article" should be permabanned. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 14:37, 4 January 2011 (PST)

Talk:WelcometoBollywood

2010-11-03T16:08:51Z

Sully:

Im Indian ethnically, and I just got a great idea for some new Userboxes and this page --[[User:IconOfEvi|IconOfEvi]] 02:28, 3 November 2010 (PDT)
* That's fascinating. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 09:08, 3 November 2010 (PDT)

Talk:Katie Bay E-mails 6

2010-10-21T02:43:16Z

Sully: Created page with "I know hurr hurr not a forum but I love he cut off contact precisely when she asked him to elaborate about potential employment. IT'S LIKE HE DOESN'T LIKE TO THINK ABOUT THAT OR ..."

I know hurr hurr not a forum but I love he cut off contact precisely when she asked him to elaborate about potential employment. IT'S LIKE HE DOESN'T LIKE TO THINK ABOUT THAT OR SOMETHING [[User:Sully|Sully]] 19:43, 20 October 2010 (PDT)

Talk:Lars' Ship has Sunk.MOV

2010-09-27T02:48:37Z

Sully: wikifail self-fix

{{Not A Forum}}
Slugged in a transcription, couldn't make out one part though. /r/ help with "And today was our anniversary this 25th of September b... OH NO! What's that? A <site pert?>? Aaaah!!". It looks like another boat or a pier or something. [[User:Mupkids|Mupkids]] 16:32, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

== T-shirt ==

The t-shirt isn't plain white. It has some red logo/writing on it, which is most visible near the end of the video. Kudos to anyone able to work it out. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 15:59, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
:It says Brick Fest 2005 or 2006, June 9-17, and a URL at the bottom. Seems like some promotional item for Lego. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 16:08, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
::It is from 2000, I'm pretty sure near the end you can clearly see "000" after the fold in this shirt. [http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/kl/brickfest/tshirts/front-detail.jpg closeup of what it probably says,] [http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/kl/brickfest/tshirts/front.jpg front], [http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/kl/brickfest/tshirts/back.jpg back]. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 16:13, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
:::[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BrickFest BrickFest] is an unofficial LEGO convention which is usually held in Virginia - I guess this is another convention that Chris has attended.--[[User:BADavid|BADavid]] 16:14, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
::::Although in this case, the shirt Chris is wearing has "Washington" written on it (I saw it at around 50 seconds+). --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 16:18, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

::::Comic sans logo fail --[[User:Bentduck|Bentduck]] 17:22, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
And I thought Chris couldn't sink any lower.-- [[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 16:26, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

==New hairdo==
It would seem that Chris has resorted to just letting his hair grow out to hide his receding hairline. Think this may be because of his new sweetheart or because everyone keeps mentioning it? --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 17:41, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

== Sweethearts ==

Did Chris mean his current sweetheart in this video or one of his past ones? He normally means an actual girlfriend when discussing sweethearts; he said nothing about Gal-pal. I'm wondering who this was meant for. [[User:MissRadioactive|MissRadioactive]] 17:54, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
:He says " Who is now Chris's girlfriend!" so it must be Jackie. [[User:Eamoo|Eamoo]] 18:00, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
::That's what I was thinking. Good find. [[User:MissRadioactive|MissRadioactive]] 19:09, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

== Picture ==
Added a little picture of Chris's mug from the beginning of the video. It shows more of his horrible aging. Someone do me a favor and add a better caption to it because mine sucks. [[User:Magi-chan|Magi-chan]] 18:06, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
:This has some real potential for good reaction images. Here are some: http://imgur.com/a/yv37e/on_a_boat find moar plox --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 00:16, 26 September 2010 (PDT)

==New Glasses?==
Is it just me, or do those frames look shinier than usual? Maybe it's the rare inclusion of sunlight in his room, but still...--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 18:27, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
:I noticed that as well but a cursory check of recent videos indicate it's just the sunlight, which no doubt was making Chris's skin smoke and blister by the end of the video. [[User:Blusko|Blusko]] 03:04, 26 September 2010 (PDT)

== What was that at the end? ==

I heard a faint voice at the tail end of the video. I think it was Barb saying "Hello" to Chris. Did anyone hear that, too? --vofdoom38, 18:33, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

Nice catch. Added a little bit to the transcript.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 18:39, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

== Chris fails with comedy again... ==

Chris' actions in this video seem to be a failed use of "Tragedy+time=comedy" toward insulting <s>Troll X</s> Jackie's old boyfriend. Of course, the Titanic is still a bit too soon, showing how Chris can't even follow comedic formulations.

Also, goddamn, his camera is yellowing the video big time. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 19:14, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

: "The consequences will never be the same" and Chris's smugness lead me to think he didn't mean this to be funny at all. --[[User:MissRadioactive|MissRadioactive]] 19:36, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

:: My guess is that Jackie specifically requested that he use that line. [[User:Bunsteaks|Bunsteaks]] 20:36, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

::: I don't think he was trying to be funny, I think he considers this a serious threat. [[SerenityMoonstone|SerenityMoonstone]] 8:19, 26 September 2010 (EST)

:::: On the Jessi Slaughter thing someone at /cwc/ posted this as a theory which I think is very sound

"A little speculation on the possible Kerligirl reference... Since he's concerned about cyberbullying, it's very likely that he googled the term, only to have the Slaughter Saga and its accompanying videos. Instead of properly seeing the father's incoherent threat as a hilarious internet meme, he saw it as a heroic ultimatum on those dang dirty trolls, and thus autistically tried to copy those words in order to replicate what he perceived as a POWERFUL THREAT."
--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 09:55, 26 September 2010 (PDT)

::::: Jackie already got him to do blackface, I think by Occam's razor we can assume it was her influence. -- [[User:Mexican|Mexican]] 18:53, 26 September 2010 (PDT)
::::::Correct sir. Somebody tried to shove shit about Slaughter into it earlier and I reverted it because A) it's speculation that is almost certainly worthless and B) it was added by some retard that had just created an account and put that in, nobody gives a fuck that you know what was popular on 4chan a month ago. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 19:47, 26 September 2010 (PDT)

Talk:Lars' Ship has Sunk.MOV

2010-09-27T02:47:38Z

Sully: /* Chris fails with comedy again... */

{{Not A Forum}}
Slugged in a transcription, couldn't make out one part though. /r/ help with "And today was our anniversary this 25th of September b... OH NO! What's that? A <site pert?>? Aaaah!!". It looks like another boat or a pier or something. [[User:Mupkids|Mupkids]] 16:32, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

== T-shirt ==

The t-shirt isn't plain white. It has some red logo/writing on it, which is most visible near the end of the video. Kudos to anyone able to work it out. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 15:59, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
:It says Brick Fest 2005 or 2006, June 9-17, and a URL at the bottom. Seems like some promotional item for Lego. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 16:08, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
::It is from 2000, I'm pretty sure near the end you can clearly see "000" after the fold in this shirt. [http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/kl/brickfest/tshirts/front-detail.jpg closeup of what it probably says,] [http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/kl/brickfest/tshirts/front.jpg front], [http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/kl/brickfest/tshirts/back.jpg back]. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 16:13, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
:::[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BrickFest BrickFest] is an unofficial LEGO convention which is usually held in Virginia - I guess this is another convention that Chris has attended.--[[User:BADavid|BADavid]] 16:14, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
::::Although in this case, the shirt Chris is wearing has "Washington" written on it (I saw it at around 50 seconds+). --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 16:18, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

::::Comic sans logo fail --[[User:Bentduck|Bentduck]] 17:22, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
And I thought Chris couldn't sink any lower.-- [[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 16:26, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

==New hairdo==
It would seem that Chris has resorted to just letting his hair grow out to hide his receding hairline. Think this may be because of his new sweetheart or because everyone keeps mentioning it? --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 17:41, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

== Sweethearts ==

Did Chris mean his current sweetheart in this video or one of his past ones? He normally means an actual girlfriend when discussing sweethearts; he said nothing about Gal-pal. I'm wondering who this was meant for. [[User:MissRadioactive|MissRadioactive]] 17:54, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
:He says " Who is now Chris's girlfriend!" so it must be Jackie. [[User:Eamoo|Eamoo]] 18:00, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
::That's what I was thinking. Good find. [[User:MissRadioactive|MissRadioactive]] 19:09, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

== Picture ==
Added a little picture of Chris's mug from the beginning of the video. It shows more of his horrible aging. Someone do me a favor and add a better caption to it because mine sucks. [[User:Magi-chan|Magi-chan]] 18:06, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
:This has some real potential for good reaction images. Here are some: http://imgur.com/a/yv37e/on_a_boat find moar plox --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 00:16, 26 September 2010 (PDT)

==New Glasses?==
Is it just me, or do those frames look shinier than usual? Maybe it's the rare inclusion of sunlight in his room, but still...--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 18:27, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
:I noticed that as well but a cursory check of recent videos indicate it's just the sunlight, which no doubt was making Chris's skin smoke and blister by the end of the video. [[User:Blusko|Blusko]] 03:04, 26 September 2010 (PDT)

== What was that at the end? ==

I heard a faint voice at the tail end of the video. I think it was Barb saying "Hello" to Chris. Did anyone hear that, too? --vofdoom38, 18:33, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

Nice catch. Added a little bit to the transcript.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 18:39, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

== Chris fails with comedy again... ==

Chris' actions in this video seem to be a failed use of "Tragedy+time=comedy" toward insulting <s>Troll X</s> Jackie's old boyfriend. Of course, the Titanic is still a bit too soon, showing how Chris can't even follow comedic formulations.

Also, goddamn, his camera is yellowing the video big time. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 19:14, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

: "The consequences will never be the same" and Chris's smugness lead me to think he didn't mean this to be funny at all. --[[User:MissRadioactive|MissRadioactive]] 19:36, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

:: My guess is that Jackie specifically requested that he use that line. [[User:Bunsteaks|Bunsteaks]] 20:36, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

::: I don't think he was trying to be funny, I think he considers this a serious threat. [[SerenityMoonstone|SerenityMoonstone]] 8:19, 26 September 2010 (EST)

:::: On the Jessi Slaughter thing someone at /cwc/ posted this as a theory which I think is very sound

"A little speculation on the possible Kerligirl reference... Since he's concerned about cyberbullying, it's very likely that he googled the term, only to have the Slaughter Saga and its accompanying videos. Instead of properly seeing the father's incoherent threat as a hilarious internet meme, he saw it as a heroic ultimatum on those dang dirty trolls, and thus autistically tried to copy those words in order to replicate what he perceived as a POWERFUL THREAT."
--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 09:55, 26 September 2010 (PDT)

::::: Jackie already got him to do blackface, I think by Occam's razor we can assume it was her influence. -- [[User:Mexican|Mexican]] 18:53, 26 September 2010 (PDT)
* Correct sir. Somebody tried to shove shit about Slaughter into it earlier and I reverted it because A) it's speculation that is almost certainly worthless and B) it was added by some retard that had just created an account and put that in, nobody gives a fuck that you know what was popular on 4chan a month ago. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 19:47, 26 September 2010 (PDT)

Lars' Ship has Sunk.MOV

2010-09-26T23:02:47Z

Sully: Undo revision 116109 by TugboatChris (talk)

[[File:Hmmodel.jpg|thumb|left|What the video is about]]
[[File:ChrisAging.jpg|thumb|Chris <s>in 20 years</s> today]]

'''Lars' Ship has Sunk.MOV''' is a video [[Chris]] uploaded on 25 [[September 2010]]. Chris addresses the video to someone called "Lars", the ex-boyfriend of Chris's latest [[sweetheart]], [[Jackie]]. He then proceeds to [[Twin Falling Towers|belittle and disrespect]] the victims of the [[wikipedia:RMS Titanic|Titanic]] disaster by pretending to sink a [[LEGO]] boat, apparently with Lars aboard. The grand finale is Chris destroying the boat and some LEGO characters with his feet.

{{clear}}

==Video==
{{Infobox/video
| name = Lars' Ship has Sunk
| video = {{#ev:youtube|C3mv4UjTblU}}
| stardate = 25 [[September 2010]]
| subject = {{Galpals|text}}, {{Violence|text}}, {{Power|text}}
| style = {{Crazy|text}}, {{Smug|text}}
| shirt = {{BrickFestShirt|text}}
| previous = [[Song for Jackie.MOV]]
| next = Current
| saga = {{Jackie|text}}
}}

{{quote|The consequences will never be the same|Chris on breaking LEGO}}

===Transcript===

[[File:Brickfest-back.jpg|thumb|These guys had no idea what was coming]]
[[File:Creepy_boat.jpg|thumb|Chris WILL sink your boat!]]

Good afternoon. This message goes out to an ex of mine, dear belove- my dear beloved sweetheart's, who goes by the name of Lars. Who had a session [[Chris and English|[means to say "an obsession"]]], with model boats! [''Presents Lego boat''] And here is a Titanic-like boat! He is piloting it! Let's see what happens to his boat!

[''Moves "boat" down to an inverted Lego board'']

[''High pitched voice''] "Oh, look at me! I'm sailing in my Titanic-like boat which was originally for my girlfriend! Who is now Christian's girlfriend! And today was our anniversary! This twenty fifth of September - Oh no! What this! A ciberg!"

[''Wails and breaks boat apart'']

It gets better. You know what. Because... Here comes the demolition team that finds... th-the remains... of the sunken ship. [''Steps on the "ship"''] Boom! Boom! [''Cackles''] Oh, and here's the captain of the ship! The remains of him anyway! Peoww! [''Crushes figurine underfoot, collapsing a small pile of hoarded books and copybooks by accident, then zooms in''] [[Clyde_is_Weaker_than_Water|Weak as dirt]].

[''Points upwards''] [http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Jessi_Slaughter The consequences will never be the same.] Lars, [[I AM STRONG|you are no match for me and my]] [[obesity|muscles]]. [''A faint voice, perhaps [[Barb]], says "Hello"'']

[''Licks his lips as if about to speak again - video ends'']

==See also==

*[[Jackie]]
*[[Twin Falling Towers]], in which Chris mocked another tragedy

{{clear}}

{{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[Song for Jackie.MOV]]|nextlink=Current}}
{{Sweetheart Videos}}

[[Category:Videos Christian uploaded to YouTube]]

User talk:Bobsinthekkk

2010-09-26T20:39:00Z

Sully: /* Your edits... */

== Da Update edits ==

Please stop re-adding the paragraph about the prank call to Da update. I've added a link to the call onto the template in far less spammy fashion. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 19:48, 23 September 2010 (PDT)
:hey stop trying to push your bullshit. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 19:47, 23 September 2010 (PDT)
::Oh and don't try to hide your talk page messages or anything. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 19:56, 23 September 2010 (PDT)
Sry it won't happen again I promise.

http://789chan.org/cwc/res/6115.html

You want to know what was wrong with the call, these guys can explain it pretty well.

Man it was one of our first videos christ cut us some slack. we all start somewhere don't we.

*Sign your post. After all this do we really need a Prank Call Page? It seems that to generate abundance of insufferable fags thinking it should be on DA UPDATE. An old white man being racist isn't some amazing discovery. [[User:SurfShackTito|SurfShackTito]] 18:56, 24 September 2010 (PDT)

Fuck Clyde and all the elitest fags who think trolling is a way of life your all nothing more then 20 year olds in front of your cpu's thinking your hot shit but really your nothing in the real world.

...wtf? [[User:Pfargtl9000|Someone]] 18:59, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

This is coming from two faggots trying to gain our approval. --[[User:AntonImaus|AntonImaus]] 21:57, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

== Your edits... ==

If you're Chris, lurk moar.

If you're somehow Bob, leave now, old man.

If you're a white knight, just leave.

Just saying. The comments you leave are both in the wrong places and unsigned. Just shut up while you still can. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 19:06, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
* Good god, those first two sentences made me want to reach through the computer and beat the shit out of you for being so fucking retarded. Lets just stick to calling him what he actually is, somebody that participated in a mediocre prank call and thinks they're king of the trolls. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 13:39, 26 September 2010 (PDT)

User talk:Swastika/Conversation Two

2010-09-11T19:13:54Z

Sully:

This is kinda funny, do you have the audio? Could you upload it to youtube or another medium? I'd love to hear it. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 10:30, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
:I thought that they were going to block me and delete for the lulz, so I didn't bother recording the Skype call. [[User:Swastika|Swastika]] 10:50, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
::C'mon, this is painfully fake Swastika. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 12:11, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
:::The only thing funny about this is that Rach thinks its real [[User:Sully|Sully]] 12:13, 11 September 2010 (PDT)

Talk:Encyclopedia Dramatica

2010-09-04T15:02:51Z

Sully: /* Blocked */

==To do==
*find some more quotes from Chris on ED, and if someone could find the sauce of the quote I just posted. kthnx. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:15, 10 February 2009 (CET)

* Add some mention of the new People page, and the new places page (added April 5th.) --[[User:Tregnier2795|Tregnier2795]] 02:16, 7 April 2009 (CEST)

==Trolls trolling trolls==
Just to clarify, no, I am not butthurt by ED. However, the faggots there were all like "Chris isn't funny anymore, let's delete this article" (and this was before the fake Vote for Deletion) which really wasn't resolved until people saw the sex tape and were like "Holy crap, I didn't realize he could go that low." --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:34, 20 March 2009 (CET)

== Blocked ==

*Can anyone access the ED page? I can't, somehow, AT&T or Open DNS blocked ED from my server...--[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 07:38, 4 September 2010 (PDT)
** ED is having problems today, as it routinely does. Not a forum etc shh. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 08:01, 4 September 2010 (PDT)

Talk:Encyclopedia Dramatica

2010-09-04T15:01:49Z

Sully: /* Blocked */

==To do==
*find some more quotes from Chris on ED, and if someone could find the sauce of the quote I just posted. kthnx. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:15, 10 February 2009 (CET)

* Add some mention of the new People page, and the new places page (added April 5th.) --[[User:Tregnier2795|Tregnier2795]] 02:16, 7 April 2009 (CEST)

==Trolls trolling trolls==
Just to clarify, no, I am not butthurt by ED. However, the faggots there were all like "Chris isn't funny anymore, let's delete this article" (and this was before the fake Vote for Deletion) which really wasn't resolved until people saw the sex tape and were like "Holy crap, I didn't realize he could go that low." --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:34, 20 March 2009 (CET)

== Blocked ==

*Can anyone access the ED page? I can't, somehow, AT&T or Open DNS blocked ED from my server...--[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 07:38, 4 September 2010 (PDT)
** ED is having problems today, as it routinely does. Shh. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 08:01, 4 September 2010 (PDT)

Talk:Chris and negotiation

2010-09-04T06:07:22Z

Sully: /* Deletion */

==Deletion==
I really think there's not enough basis for this page. This is a really interesting topic but not really something encyclopedic and this really comes off as more of an essay sort of deal. I think a lot of this can be summarized in one sentence in [[autism]] that "Chris is incapable of seeing other people's point of view." Thoughts?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:36, 3 September 2010 (PDT)
:*Champthom, much like [[User:Beat|some other people]] is always right. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 16:51, 3 September 2010 (PDT)
:It might fit better in [[Chris and his Ego]] under Manifestations. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 16:57, 3 September 2010 (PDT)

Actually this page came as a request from yoko after this last saga, I was going to put it together myself, after a bit more of the events recent events are made "public", but I see someone's jumped the gun and started it without me. There's plenty of material that can go into the article that has it's own merit, mostly involving the frustrations many trolls experience in manipulating the 2010 era Chris, who cares only for his PS3. I'll see what I can do to improve the article with some REDACTED materials, but yeah, this article is a special request, so we should improve it rather than throw it out. --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 17:12, 3 September 2010 (PDT)
*I know Yoko requested it but that doesn't mean it should be done. I really dislike these sort of pages because while they're interesting, they're more or less opinion pieces and mostly opinion. It's junk food - it tastes good but it's not good for you.
:If we REALLY had to do this article, I'd focus more on times Chris has had to negotiated, how he did so, and the outcome versus the intended income as opposed to going on about why Chris can't compromise and tactics (the latter I would briefly visit, see if there are actual tactics here. Some [[Wikipedia:game theory|game theory]] would be useful here). But frankly, I really don't see why this deserves an entire article on a narrow topic and the fact that this can be summarized as "Chris can't negotiate."--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:49, 3 September 2010 (PDT)
** The way it is phrased now I can see what you mean champ, but I'd give it a couple days before acting on it. It's getting a lot of work and it just popped up, there is absolutely documentation of this shit, it just has to be synced up with the article. Whatever you do is what you do, but give it a little bit and see what it turns into. It isn't some furry's shitty self insert Sonichu fanfic, its something that at its core is intended to be relevant to Chris and is meant to serve a purpose. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 23:07, 3 September 2010 (PDT)

==Other Bargaining situations==
Back when Chris was being black mailed into singing okay to be gay/humping his ps3. he kept demanding that Jack gave him the names of the people that worked on the psn. The only reason Jack kept making him sing the song was cause he was doing it wrong/changing the lyrics. Might wanna read the Samantha emails to get the better details[[User:SurfShackTito|SurfShackTito]] 22:40, 3 September 2010 (PDT)

Chris and negotiation

2010-09-04T01:40:39Z

Sully:

When it comes to dealing with Chris, trolls often experience a unique form of "Negotiation". Due to a severe sense of [[Chris and his Ego|entitlement]], a lifetime of coddling and [[autism|other factors that are beyond his control]], Christian Weston Chandler is horrible when it comes to compromising, or even realizing what sort of bargaining position he's in. Often, trolls blackmailing Chris will find him making demands, as if he had leverage. Conversely, some have experienced the oddity of having Chris run away from a situation where he was purposely given the upper hand. When it comes to dealing with Chris directly, one can only expect that Chris will always take the path of least resistance, even if it doesn't benefit him.

[[Image:0781-CWCspdbed.JPG|thumb|right|Chris waiting for his china to come to him]]
{{quote|Ahm workin on it| Christian Weston Chandler on everything and anything}}

==Concept of Compromise==
'''Negotiation''' is based on compromise. Both parties must work together in order to find the best possible solution to solve both of their problems in a satisfactory manner. Chris doesn't understand this. Being completely ego-centric, Chris believes that, in any exchange, both parties share the same viewpoint: his. Chris can't stand any form of confrontation, and quickly tires if his demands aren't met exactly has he has made them.

On numerous occasions, Chris has tried to negotiate by either listing a bunch of ridiculous demands or outright refusing to give anything up or do anything at all for that matter. After he makes his case, his mind is "closed on the matter" and he is unwilling to budge. When further pressed, he often shuts down completely, and walks away from the table, into the waiting arms of his [[PS3|hugbox]].

==Examples of Negotiation==

During the Nintendo saga, [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] stated that Chris must meet him at Nintendo's American headquarters in Redmond, Washington. Chris handled this by making a video where he pretended to come back from Redmond, when he actually never left the house. Chris demanded that the CEO of an international company come to HIS house and meet with him. When Chris was pressed as to why the meeting had to be at his house, Chris said that he had no money. When he was asked why he had no money, he said he had no job. When he was asked why he didn't have a job, Chris made various excuses and cited his very brief employment at [[Wendy's]]. This sort of "pass the buck" attitude is very common when dealing with Chris. Nothing negative can ever be his fault.

Whenever Chris wants to meet one of his "[[sweethearts]]" in real life, he usually wants them to come to him, no matter how difficult such a trip would be. He wanted [[PandaHalo]] to come to him despite her living in Australia. He wanted [[Julie]] to come to him even though she was supposedly a poor immigrant who couldn't afford a car or bus fare. He wanted [[Kacey]] to come to him even though she lived in the DC area, which is an hour or so from Ruckersville.

One of the most recent sweethearts, [[Jackie e-mails|Jackie]], was willing to have a relationship with Chris as long as he tried to become a better person. Instead of trying to put in a minimal amount of effort and try to better himself, he decided to end things.

Often, trolls will gain access to Chris' [[PSN]], and make various demands. The most common of these demands is that he sell or throw out some of his beloved toys or games. Despite his claims that he plays with everything in his room, a quick glance at his PSN account shows otherwise. Most of his PSN activity is divided between [[LittleBigPlanet]], God of War 3 and [[ModNation Racers]], which leaves most of his [[List of Chris's games|vast collection of games]] untouched. Even though he doesn't use the majority of the toys and games he owns, yet he refuses to sell them. This refusal is usually followed up by him saying that he doesn't have the money to do something that would improve his life.

When he was given [[CWCipedia|his own wiki]] for free, he demanded complete executive control from day one. In Chris' mind this meant that every demand he made would be fulfilled by the staff, and that anything done without his permission would be removed immediately. He insisted on a gaudy background, and [[CWCipedia#Traitorous_mutiny|threatened to stop working]] whenever the [[Cogsdev|webmaster]] displeased him. Later, when [[Jack Thaddeus]] graciously paid for the CWCipedia's webspace with ads featuring homoerotic images, Chris went on a tirade. Chris immediately demanded that they be taken down, but refused to even consider paying for his own website. When removal failed, he said that he wanted them to be smaller, as if he had some say in how large advertisements were. Chris had no concept of how advertising worked, but merely assumed that he had the final say in everything.

Later, during the "popularity contest" between [[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]] and [[Asperchu]],he tried to make amends with [[Alec Benson Leary]]. However, instead of making reparations, Chris demanded that Alec tell his fans to go back to Sonichu. Chris, who was in no position to make requests, attached several "clauses" to his applogies. In fact, Chris' list of demands was larger than the apology they were bundled with. All of this came after Chris drew a comic where he broke into Alec's house, stole a dating game of his Xbox 360 and freed a group of Rosechus that he implied were the victims of sexual abuse.

==Chris's Tactics==
When Chris is faced with a task requiring any effort on his part, or involves something that does not benefit him, he completely ignores it. Chris automatically disregards anything that will not befit him immediately, or almost immediately. The hardest part of negotiating with Chris, is that, if you make a demand that he does not agree to, he shuts down. Like a spoiled infant, Chris will not even deal with something that isn't self-serving and easy.

On the other hand, when you have something Chris wants, Chris will not give up until he has acquired it, under his own terms. When the road to a reward has a sign that bluntly says Chris is not eligible, he will attempt to get the reward anyway, or claim that the rules are discriminatory and unfair. Chris will pursue his goal thoughtlessly and simplemindedly, often ignoring even the idea that he might not get what he wants.

When Chris has to meet a requirement during a negotiation (ESPECIALLY deadlines), he will explain that he is "working on it". To Chris, saying this is an acceptable substitute for actual work, whether or not he is indeed "working on it". If, in his own good time, Chris feels inclined to fulfill the deal, he'll submit whenever he wants to, regardless of the original agreement, well after the deadline. If the agreement was that he would receive something for the "work" done, he demand it unceasingly, despite not holding up his end of the deal in any way, shape, or form.

Even if Chris somehow agrees to a set of terms, he will try to get around them. If he agrees to give something up for someone, he will go behind that person's back in order to get it back so that he could have both. If he agrees to draw a comic, he will most likely do something easier, like make a video or write a blog entry, figuring that that counts as work. If he agrees to willingly slander himself (like calling himself gay, for instance), he'll either mumble it so that it's incomprehensible, or he'll hide his face.

In some instances (the rare ones that he actually does what he was instructed to), anything said or done he feels slandered his good name he will simply state are lies and instruct everyone to ignore them, then will [[Mailbag 2|close his mind]] on the subject. This is [[Chris|retarded]] for two reasons. By telling his "fans" to ignore the lies, he is alerting "fans" that are a little behind on what's happening with Chris of their existence, making more people see them than would have if he didn't acknowledge them. He is also showing he is clearly aware of their existence, and still insisting they are lies.

{{incomplete}}
{{Chris and}}
[[Category:Chris-chan]]

Chris and negotiation

2010-09-04T01:39:54Z

Sully: Edited a word and threw a paragraph on the bottom of "Tactics" that may or may not deserve to stay.

When it comes to dealing with Chris, trolls often experience a unique form of "Negotiation". Due to a severe sense of [[Chris and his Ego|entitlement]], a lifetime of coddling and [[autism|other factors that are beyond his control]], Christian Weston Chandler is horrible when it comes to compromising, or even realizing what sort of bargaining position he's in. Often, trolls blackmailing Chris will find him making demands, as if he had leverage. Conversely, some have experienced the oddity of having Chris run away from a situation where he was purposely given the upper hand. When it comes to dealing with Chris directly, one can only expect that Chris will always take the path of least resistance, even if it doesn't benefit him.

[[Image:0781-CWCspdbed.JPG|thumb|right|Chris waiting for his china to come to him]]
{{quote|Ahm workin on it| Christian Weston Chandler on everything and anything}}

==Concept of Compromise==
'''Negotiation''' is based on compromise. Both parties must work together in order to find the best possible solution to solve both of their problems in a satisfactory manner. Chris doesn't understand this. Being completely ego-centric, Chris believes that, in any exchange, both parties share the same viewpoint: his. Chris can't stand any form of confrontation, and quickly tires if his demands aren't met exactly has he has made them.

On numerous occasions, Chris has tried to negotiate by either listing a bunch of ridiculous demands or outright refusing to give anything up or do anything at all for that matter. After he makes his case, his mind is "closed on the matter" and he is unwilling to budge. When further pressed, he often shuts down completely, and walks away from the table, into the waiting arms of his [[PS3|hugbox]].

==Examples of Negotiation==

During the Nintendo saga, [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] stated that Chris must meet him at Nintendo's American headquarters in Redmond, Washington. Chris handled this by making a video where he pretended to come back from Redmond, when he actually never left the house. Chris demanded that the CEO of an international company come to HIS house and meet with him. When Chris was pressed as to why the meeting had to be at his house, Chris said that he had no money. When he was asked why he had no money, he said he had no job. When he was asked why he didn't have a job, Chris made various excuses and cited his very brief employment at [[Wendy's]]. This sort of "pass the buck" attitude is very common when dealing with Chris. Nothing negative can ever be his fault.

Whenever Chris wants to meet one of his "[[sweethearts]]" in real life, he usually wants them to come to him, no matter how difficult such a trip would be. He wanted [[PandaHalo]] to come to him despite her living in Australia. He wanted [[Julie]] to come to him even though she was supposedly a poor immigrant who couldn't afford a car or bus fare. He wanted [[Kacey]] to come to him even though she lived in the DC area, which is an hour or so from Ruckersville.

One of the most recent sweethearts, [[Jackie e-mails|Jackie]], was willing to have a relationship with Chris as long as he tried to become a better person. Instead of trying to put in a minimal amount of effort and try to better himself, he decided to end things.

Often, trolls will gain access to Chris' [[PSN]], and make various demands. The most common of these demands is that he sell or throw out some of his beloved toys or games. Despite his claims that he plays with everything in his room, a quick glance at his PSN account shows otherwise. Most of his PSN activity is divided between [[LittleBigPlanet]], God of War 3 and [[ModNation Racers]], which leaves most of his [[List of Chris's games|vast collection of games]] untouched. Even though he doesn't use the majority of the toys and games he owns, yet he refuses to sell them. This refusal is usually followed up by him saying that he doesn't have the money to do something that would improve his life.

When he was given [[CWCipedia|his own wiki]] for free, he demanded complete executive control from day one. In Chris' mind this meant that every demand he made would be fulfilled by the staff, and that anything done without his permission would be removed immediately. He insisted on a gaudy background, and [[CWCipedia#Traitorous_mutiny|threatened to stop working]] whenever the [[Cogsdev|webmaster]] displeased him. Later, when [[Jack Thaddeus]] graciously paid for the CWCipedia's webspace with ads featuring homoerotic images, Chris went on a tirade. Chris immediately demanded that they be taken down, but refused to even consider paying for his own website. When removal failed, he said that he wanted them to be smaller, as if he had some say in how large advertisements were. Chris had no concept of how advertising worked, but merely assumed that he had the final say in everything.

Later, during the "popularity contest" between [[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]] and [[Asperchu]],he tried to make amends with [[Alec Benson Leary]]. However, instead of making reparations, Chris demanded that Alec tell his fans to go back to Sonichu. Chris, who was in no position to make requests, attached several "clauses" to his applogies. In fact, Chris' list of demands was larger than the apology they were bundled with. All of this came after Chris drew a comic where he broke into Alec's house, stole a dating game of his Xbox 360 and freed a group of Rosechus that he implied were the victims of sexual abuse.

==Chris's Tactics==
When Chris is faced with a task requiring any effort on his part, or involves something that does not benefit him, he completely ignores it. Chris automatically disregards anything that will not befit him immediately, or almost immediately. The hardest part of negotiating with Chris, is that, if you make a demand that he does not agree to, he shuts down. Like a spoiled infant, Chris will not even deal with something that isn't self-serving and easy.

On the other hand, when you have something Chris wants, Chris will not give up until he has acquired it, under his own terms. When the road to a reward has a sign that bluntly says Chris is not eligible, he will attempt to get the reward anyway, or claim that the rules are discriminatory and unfair. Chris will pursue his goal thoughtlessly and simplemindedly, often ignoring even the idea that he might not get what he wants.

When Chris has to meet a requirement during a negotiation (ESPECIALLY deadlines), he will explain that he is "working on it". To Chris, saying this is an acceptable substitute for actual work, whether or not he is indeed "working on it". If, in his own good time, Chris feels inclined to fulfill the deal, he'll submit whenever he wants to, regardless of the original agreement, well after the deadline. If the agreement was that he would receive something for the "work" done, he demand it unceasingly, despite not holding up his end of the deal in any way, shape, or form.

Even if Chris somehow agrees to a set of terms, he will try to get around them. If he agrees to give something up for someone, he will go behind that person's back in order to get it back so that he could have both. If he agrees to draw a comic, he will most likely do something easier, like make a video or write a blog entry, figuring that that counts as work. If he agrees to willingly slander himself (like calling himself gay, for instance), he'll either mumble it so that it's incomprehensible, or he'll hide his face.

In some instances (the rare ones that he actually does what he was instructed to), anything said or done he feels slandered his good name he will simply state are lies and instruct everyone to ignore them, then will [[Mailbag 2|close his mind]] on the subject. This is [[Chris|retarded]] for two reasons. By telling his "fans" to ignore the lies, he is alerting "fans" that are a little behind on what's happening with Chris of their existence, making more people see them than would have if he didn't acknowledge them. He is also showing he is clearly aware of their existence, and still insists they are lies.

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{{Chris and}}
[[Category:Chris-chan]]

Chris and negotiation

2010-09-03T22:27:08Z

Sully: lern2grammar Sully

Due to a severe sense of [[Chris and his Ego|entitlement]], a lifetime of coddling and [[autism|other factors that are beyond his control]], Christian Weston Chandler is horrible when it comes to negotiation.

==Chris can't compromise==
Negotiation is based on compromise. Both parties must work together in order to find the best possible solution to solve both of their problems in a satisfactory manner. Chris doesn't understand this.

On numerous occasions, Chris has tried to negotiate by either listing a bunch of ridiculous demands or outright refusing to give anything up or do anything at all for that matter. After he makes his case, his mind is "closed on the matter" and he is unwilling to budge.

When he was given [[CWCipedia|his own wiki]] for free, he demanded that ads featuring homoerotic images were taken down. When that failed, he said that he wanted them to be smaller. When he couldn't have that done, he said that he wanted them to be moved. He wanted to have total control over his ad space even though the owner sold it to [[Jack Thaddeus]]. When he tried to make amends with Alec Benson Leary, the acclaimed creator of Asperchu, he demanded that Alec tell his fans to go back to Sonichu. This was after he drew a comic where he broke into Alec's house, stole a dating game of his XBox and freed a group of Rosechus that he implied were the victims of sexual abuse.

==Chris is lazy==
Many of these scenarios involve Chris actually getting off his ass and doing something. During the Nintendo saga, [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] stated that Chris must meet him at Nintendo's American headquarters in Redmond, Washington. Chris handled this by making a video where he pretended to come back from Redmond. When he was pressed on the matter, he said that he had no money. When he was asked why he had no money, he said he had no job. When he was asked why he didn't have a job, he said... and so on.

One of the demands Chris faces often is that he sell or throw out some of his toys or games. Despite his claims that he plays with everything in his room, a quick glance at his [[PSN]] account shows otherwise. Most of his PSN activity is divided between [[LittleBigPlanet]], God of War 3 and [[ModNation Racers]], which leaves most of his games untouched. Even though he doesn't use the vast majority of the toys and games he owns, he refuses to sell them. This refusal is usually followed up by him saying that he doesn't have the money to do something.

[[Image:0781-CWCspdbed.JPG|thumb|right|Chris waiting for his china to come to him]]
{{quote|Oh God- every single woman, you wanted them to come to your house, you wanted... Sarah to come to your house, you wanted Julie to come to your house, you are so lazy- why don't you leave your house?| Clyde Cash in [[Mumble 3]]}}

Whenever Chris wants to meet one of his "[[sweethearts]]" in real life, he usually wants them to come to him, no matter how difficult such a trip would be. He wanted [[PandaHalo]] to come to him despite her living in Australia. He wanted [[Julie]] to come to him even though she was supposedly a poor immigrant who couldn't afford a car or busfare. He wanted [[Kacey]] to come to him even though she lived in the DC area, which is an hour or so from Ruckersville.

One of the most recent sweethearts, [[Jackie e-mails|Jackie]], was willing to have a relationship with Chris as long as he tried to become a better person. Instead of trying to put in a minimal amount of effort and try to better himself, he decided to end things.

==Chris thinks ignoring obstacles makes them not exist==
When Chris faces a task including something he does not like, or attempts to claim something that he is not allowed to have (such as a contest), he completely ignores those variables.

When the road to a reward has a sign that bluntly says Chris is not eligible, he will attempt to get the reward anyway, calling those presenting said reward assholes when he fails to acquire it. When Chris has to meet a requirement during a negotiation (such as a deadline), he will explain that he is "working on it" and submit his part of the deal whenever the fuck he wants, well after the deadline.

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{{Chris and}}
[[Category:Chris-chan]]

Chris and negotiation

2010-09-03T22:25:44Z

Sully: Added section about him ignoring shit. Needs some Parappa links and other shit. I'm workin' awn it.

Due to a severe sense of [[Chris and his Ego|entitlement]], a lifetime of coddling and [[autism|other factors that are beyond his control]], Christian Weston Chandler is horrible when it comes to negotiation.

==Chris can't compromise==
Negotiation is based on compromise. Both parties must work together in order to find the best possible solution to solve both of their problems in a satisfactory manner. Chris doesn't understand this.

On numerous occasions, Chris has tried to negotiate by either listing a bunch of ridiculous demands or outright refusing to give anything up or do anything at all for that matter. After he makes his case, his mind is "closed on the matter" and he is unwilling to budge.

When he was given [[CWCipedia|his own wiki]] for free, he demanded that ads featuring homoerotic images were taken down. When that failed, he said that he wanted them to be smaller. When he couldn't have that done, he said that he wanted them to be moved. He wanted to have total control over his ad space even though the owner sold it to [[Jack Thaddeus]]. When he tried to make amends with Alec Benson Leary, the acclaimed creator of Asperchu, he demanded that Alec tell his fans to go back to Sonichu. This was after he drew a comic where he broke into Alec's house, stole a dating game of his XBox and freed a group of Rosechus that he implied were the victims of sexual abuse.

==Chris is lazy==
Many of these scenarios involve Chris actually getting off his ass and doing something. During the Nintendo saga, [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] stated that Chris must meet him at Nintendo's American headquarters in Redmond, Washington. Chris handled this by making a video where he pretended to come back from Redmond. When he was pressed on the matter, he said that he had no money. When he was asked why he had no money, he said he had no job. When he was asked why he didn't have a job, he said... and so on.

One of the demands Chris faces often is that he sell or throw out some of his toys or games. Despite his claims that he plays with everything in his room, a quick glance at his [[PSN]] account shows otherwise. Most of his PSN activity is divided between [[LittleBigPlanet]], God of War 3 and [[ModNation Racers]], which leaves most of his games untouched. Even though he doesn't use the vast majority of the toys and games he owns, he refuses to sell them. This refusal is usually followed up by him saying that he doesn't have the money to do something.

[[Image:0781-CWCspdbed.JPG|thumb|right|Chris waiting for his china to come to him]]
{{quote|Oh God- every single woman, you wanted them to come to your house, you wanted... Sarah to come to your house, you wanted Julie to come to your house, you are so lazy- why don't you leave your house?| Clyde Cash in [[Mumble 3]]}}

Whenever Chris wants to meet one of his "[[sweethearts]]" in real life, he usually wants them to come to him, no matter how difficult such a trip would be. He wanted [[PandaHalo]] to come to him despite her living in Australia. He wanted [[Julie]] to come to him even though she was supposedly a poor immigrant who couldn't afford a car or busfare. He wanted [[Kacey]] to come to him even though she lived in the DC area, which is an hour or so from Ruckersville.

One of the most recent sweethearts, [[Jackie e-mails|Jackie]], was willing to have a relationship with Chris as long as he tried to become a better person. Instead of trying to put in a minimal amount of effort and try to better himself, he decided to end things.

==Chris thinks ignoring obstacles makes them not exist==
When Chris faces a task including something he does not like, or attempts to claim something that he is not allowed to have (such as a contest), he completely ignores those variables.

When the road to a reward has a sign that bluntly says Chris is not eligible, he will attempt to get the reward anyway, calling you an asshole when he fails to acquire it. When Chris has to meet a requirement during a negotiation (such as a deadline), he will explain that he is "working on it" and submit the deal whenever the fuck he wants, well after the deadline.

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{{Chris and}}
[[Category:Chris-chan]]

User talk:Miela

2010-08-29T01:19:21Z

Sully:

{{Welcome|SeventhBase}}[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 09:58, 11 August 2010 (PDT)

I'm not quite sure why you put this template here, after I've been registered for quite some time, but maybe it's just because all the new kids get it *shrugs*

If not and there's a concrete problem, just straight out with it! Cheers --[[User:Miela|Miela]] 11:31, 11 August 2010 (PDT)

:Everyone is supposed to get it, but it looks like you were overlooked. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 12:36, 11 August 2010 (PDT)
:You can get your essay box thingy to work by putting two square brackets around your source link. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 00:50, 12 August 2010 (PDT)
Ah, great, thanks :) I completely missed that.So, after fiddling with userthings, time for some real work *rolls up sleeves and searches for work*--[[User:Miela|Miela]] 08:18, 12 August 2010 (PDT)

==Bawwww==

Don't pull that shit and then go YOU SHOULD HAVE TOLD ME NOT TO, LEAVE ME ALONE DURR HURR. You should have known not to on your own, eat a dick. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 18:19, 28 August 2010 (PDT)

Talk:Matthew Nobles call

2010-08-17T18:55:45Z

Sully: me type good

This is important shit guys, mostly detailing Bob's theory of the conspiracy that trolling originated from [[Megan]], Michael Synder, and "a few gay guys."--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:38, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:Yeah, this is awesome. Now, if we had Matthew's email, we could verify the "George Millson" case a few of us are looking into, seeing as it's possible proof of Chris hypnotizing someone into believing Chris is a good person. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 19:02, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
::What are you talking about? --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 20:13, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:::Either look at the talk pages of either CypherFDP, Msummers or me, or email enginegeorge@yahoo.com asking what happened between him and Chris. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 20:41, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
* Most upsetting Bob oriented thing to date. He's equally responsible for Chris growing up to be a useless sack of shit. I liked the world better when I thought it was all Barb's fault. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 19:06, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
** It's the final proof that Chris's vague understanding of reality and tendency towards conspiracy are just him puppetting his senile father and white trash mother. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 20:04, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
*** I think you mean "parotting". I doubt Chris is able to project his delusions onto even his own parents. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 23:14, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
*** Even further than that, the fact that Chris didn't tell his parents about his near-arrest and tried to hide it proves that he is either very afraid of them or will do anything to avoid trouble (even if it is impractical or impossible). I'm also very interested in this apparent theft of Chris's funds. I'm wondering if someone really did break in to mess with his account, or whether Chris bought more shit than he could afford, and is trying to cover it up by claiming "trolls did it" --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 20:25, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
**Sully, I knew all along that Bob was behind Chris's shit as much as Snorlax. My suspicion was confirmed as fact to almost everyone else (including you) with this call. Just because he punished Chris once in the past does'nt mean that he's a good parent. --[[User:Famicon64|Famicon64]] 17:58, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
Who is that at the end? Sounds like Chris but...really off... - [[User:Captainhowdy|Captainhowdy]] 20:02, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
* Snorlaxicus Maximus. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 20:04, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
** Oh snap! So is this her longest appearance in recorded media? - [[User:Captainhowdy|Captainhowdy]] 20:06, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
*** This needs to get transcribed, this is really good material. [[User:Notslowpoke|Notslowpoke]] 20:13, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
**** ffffffffffffffff why did it get cut off at the end? i wanna hear more of snorlax's rambling --This post brought to you by [[User:ShotgunJones|ShotgunJones]] 20:17, 15 August 2010 (PDT). Thanks for reading!

Nine hours without a transcription. Sons, I am disapoint.
:I'm on the part where Bob talks about trolls hacking Chris's e-mails. This shit is gold. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 20:44, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:*Fuck. As usual, something new comes along when I'm at work. I'll take a look as soon as I get home, assuming Beat doesn't get word of this and leap upon it like the sexy, caped crusader for justice that he is. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 21:01, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

Transcribed. Hopefully without too many mistakes. I'll colorize it as soon as I get myself nice and drunk. --[[User:RTBHBX|RTBHBX]] 21:02, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:And colored. Tugboat Captain if you see any of your additions that I missed coloring, sorry, and please reinsert them. Oh, and I redacted the gAME pLACE phone number because I wasn't sure how kosher it was. If anyone wants to throw it in go right on ahead. --[[User:RTBHBX|RTBHBX]] 21:25, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:* Added a thing here or there, I was working on transcribing it for the past few hours too, but ya beat me to it.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:48, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

And maybe it's just me, but when Matthew says his own name at the beggining, it soulds like Nobles, with an "s". Confirm/deny? Anybody actually know him (how'd we get this in the first place)? --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:52, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
**Actually, I've listened to it, and it really does sound like he's saying Nobles. - [[User:CypherFDP|CypherFDP]] 02:58, 16 August 2010 (PDT)

**I made some very minor changes, including adding the s onto the first Nobles. [[User:Enibure|Enibure]] 19:39, 16 August 2010 (PDT)

==File format==
Could someone with a converter link to an mp3 version of the file? None of the media players on my computer support .ogg files. [[User:Ganondorfdude11|Ganondorfdude11]] 19:47, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

*Use VLC, dude.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:48, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

== Best Buy/Bank incident ==

Do we know more about this bank incident? Sounds to me like Chris probably got caught up in some sort of scam and blamed the DAMN DIRTY TROLLS for it. [[User:KarryLing|KarryLing]] 22:09, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:Considering how stupid and naive Chris is, I wouldn't put it past him. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 22:26, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:So, either trolls deliberatley going after him, some usual credit card fraud that happened to happen to Chris, or Chris lying out his ass to try to cover himself. Either way, Matthew is a master of Zen for speaking with a straight voice after that paragraph.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:47, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:I doubt it's as much "credit card fraud" as Chris-chan [[Chris and money|being his own spend-spreeing self]]. Bob got a wind of his statement, and Chris did the first thing that came to his mind: blame someone else. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 23:09, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
::Either way, if trolls actually did it or Chris did it and is now lying about it, someone could get in some serious trouble for credit card fraud. If it is indeed Chris' doing, this could get good. [[User:KarryLing|KarryLing]] 01:36, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:::Well, if it ''is'' Chris' own fault (which *is* the most probable scenario), it's not fraud- if somehow he did commit fraud, it'd be entirely on accident, I'm sure. Lying to your parents about your massive debt; dumb as all fuck (read: par for course), but not illegal. Chris stealing his parents cards; that IS fraud, but the only way that'd get taken to court is if Bob and Snorlax themselves somehow decided to kick Chris out and sue him. As fucking awesome as that'd be, not a chance in hell. --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 02:03, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:::: I think Chris just spent too much money and blamed those DAMN DIRTY TROLLS--[[User:Monkeytacoz|Monkeytacoz]] 07:48, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:::: What I meant by fraud is assuming that somehow (Likely through Bob or Barbara) Chris finds out that he can call the credit card company and say that the charges were unauthorized and get them taken off the account. I could see Chris abusing this very quickly. [[User:KarryLing|KarryLing]] 12:13, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
::::: Oh, in that case: :D --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 20:14, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:::::: It shouldn't be that hard to convince Chris to upload a copy of his latest credit card statement. We know he spends a LOT on [[PS3|PSN DLC]], but what about his other purchases? Credit card companies take fraud claims very seriously, and would at the bare minimum shut off the card while they conduct an investigation. --[[User:Captkrisma|Captkrisma]]

==Follow up call?==
I totally think somebody should phone them up again pretending to be the owner of the GAMe PLACe this time, following on from this comment from Bob:

''"Now, if you would like to have me talk to your owner I would be glad to- and my wife would be glad to go to a meeting with him about your place and how it's corrupting the whole neighborhood!"''

It'd be nice to hear some more conspiratorial shit from Boblax about how the GAMe PLACe is "corrupting the whole neighborhood!", and we know that they are chomping at the bit to talk to the owner. Just a though...-[[User:Beemunk|Beemunk]] 22:17, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

*"It's all a plot by the GAMe PLACe in league with the Greene County School District to persecute our son for being autistic. The Jews and gays are sent by them to harass Christian just for being the understanding, God-fearing, well-adjusted, mature young man we raised him to be. There's also some connection to the hispanics and blacks to keep him from getting a job and taking away all the white women keeping him from his true love."--[[User:PhilRaptor|PhilRaptor]] 23:29, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

:*Could be worse: Bob and Chris could know the word "Sheeple."--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:57, 16 August 2010 (PDT)

::*Worse yet, Bob could know people in the Tea Party. --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 09:03, 16 August 2010 (PDT)

==You do realize...==
That Matthew sounds just like Alec Benson Leary right? Coincidence? I think not. --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 22:50, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:Apparently we don't like to disclose identities of trolls, but I think "ALB" of the calls, the [[Rollin' and Trollin']] cameraman, and the Mr. Hyde of [[Magical Man Potion]] are the same person. Probably a Charlottesville FA. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 23:07, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
::I thought the same thing when he started talking. This is the most interesting thing to happen in months, hopefully we can find out about the credit card business and all of that. --[[User:Straw|Straw]] 23:28, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

== Letter ==

What sort of letter would Bob want to be sent? Chris steals troll-related mail and Bob is already talking to the (supposed) Game Place employee on the phone, so what sense does it make to want a letter? --[[User:Straw|Straw]] 23:49, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:Bob doesn't know that Chris steals the troll mail.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 00:03, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
::Too bad we do not know the mechnics of how exactly. Like does Bob or Snorlax actually get the mail out of the box, or does Chris do it? If maybe Bob would see stuff on a postcard before Chris got to it.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:55, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:::Well, if they receive a large number of postcards/letters over one day or a week containing information they may not know (house tour still being online and whatever else people can think of), they would have a better chance of seeing something or Chris getting freaked out at all these letters coming in from around the country. --[[User:Straw|Straw]] 03:53, 16 August 2010 (PDT)

== Sent video to Michael Snyder ==

I sent the video to Michael on YouTube; he needs to get a hold of this and address the video considering that Bob and Barb want to talk to him THAT bad. Even though he probably gets hundreds of messages and somebody may have already sent him the vid, I just felt it was important that he got a hold of this. --[[User:Famicon64|Famicon64]] 10:00, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:Isn't there a possibility Michael won't be happy that someone is pretending to work at the Game Place? I don't really know his personality or how he feels about the trolling but if it brings him into it I'm not really sure if he wants that. --[[User:Straw|Straw]] 10:05, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
::I bet Mike would see the caller's intentions (knock sense into Chris's parents); even though he might be a little miffed that someone was posing as an employee of his store, he's unlikely to go ballistic over the matter like Chris would because the caller was only trying to reason with Chris's parents. --[[User:Famicon64|Famicon64]] 10:21, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:::Regardless how he takes the use of his store as a cover, I am sure Mike will be more than glad to share with us his views of his rise to fame as a conspiracy mastermind. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 10:38, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
::I was just thinking this as well. Posing as anyone from The Game Place is pretty risky. There's a big potential for collateral damage to innocent parties. --[[User:Kettle5000|Kettle5000]] 13:31, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:Why would you decide to be the guy to do this? If Snyder reacts poorly to someone posing as one of his employees, we could easily be the ones to lose out. You also (presumably) have no idea if alerting Snyder conflicts with the plans of the person who was good enough to bring us this call. I've been happily lurking the CWCki for a stupidly long time and have never felt the need to get involved, but was moved to register today just to point out that this may be a stupendously dumbfuck move. [[User:LisaLisa|LisaLisa]] 16:48, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
::Pretty much what LisaLisa said... I've looked at your talk page, and you have a history of doing shit that is totally unnecessary without asking. You'd think you would have learned by now.--[[User:Inos|Inos]] 05:09, 17 August 2010 (PDT)

*When you say they want to talk to Snyder that bad, are you getting that from where they say they want to talk to the owner? Cos they don't mean Snyder, the owner is someone else. If you're talking about them accusing Snyder of fraud, well, maybe that's something he should be made aware of. --[[User:Silomentality|Silomentality]] 17:35, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
**The latter was the reason why I alerted Snyder; accusations of credit card fraud and stealing money from somebody's bank account are extremely serious, especially behind somebody's back (in this case Mike's). If he knew of the allegations, the Chandlers could be in deep shit for accusing him of a crime that he never committed, especially when there is no evidence of fraud. --[[User:Famicon64|Famicon64]] 19:15, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
**God dammit Famicon, don't do this ever again. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 05:22, 17 August 2010 (PDT)
*** That was a really dumb thing to do Famicon. --[[User:Monkeytacoz|Monkeytacoz]] 08:26, 17 August 2010 (PDT)
**** Hey, Famicon. If accusations caused legal trouble the way you think they do, half the internet would be in prison. You're a fucking idiot. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 09:56, 17 August 2010 (PDT)
***** Whatever --[[User:Famicon64|Famicon64]] 10:20, 17 August 2010 (PDT)
***** BTW Sully (and everyone else pissed with me), you're the idiots here for seriously expecting me to cover up an alleged plot that I was never notified of. Hell I'll even CALL the Game Place if you guys don't chill out about this >:). --[[User:Famicon64|Famicon64]] 10:28, 17 August 2010 (PDT)
****** Let guess, you're going to scream JULAYY, right?--[[User:Monkeytacoz|Monkeytacoz]] 10:53, 17 August 2010 (PDT)
****** Jesus Christ. I think there should be some sort of application process/IQ test before people are allowed in here/PVCC/etc. [[User:Xanatos|Xanatos]] 11:24, 17 August 2010 (PDT)
****** You were never notified? Since when did anything have to be run by you? Nobody is pissed because you did something without the approval of an inner circle that doesn't exist, people are pissed because what you did was fucking retarded. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 11:53, 17 August 2010 (PDT)

Talk:Matthew Nobles call

2010-08-17T18:53:30Z

Sully: /* Sent video to Michael Snyder */

This is important shit guys, mostly detailing Bob's theory of the conspiracy that trolling originated from [[Megan]], Michael Synder, and "a few gay guys."--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:38, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:Yeah, this is awesome. Now, if we had Matthew's email, we could verify the "George Millson" case a few of us are looking into, seeing as it's possible proof of Chris hypnotizing someone into believing Chris is a good person. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 19:02, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
::What are you talking about? --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 20:13, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:::Either look at the talk pages of either CypherFDP, Msummers or me, or email enginegeorge@yahoo.com asking what happened between him and Chris. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 20:41, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
* Most upsetting Bob oriented thing to date. He's equally responsible for Chris growing up to be a useless sack of shit. I liked the world better when I thought it was all Barb's fault. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 19:06, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
** It's the final proof that Chris's vague understanding of reality and tendency towards conspiracy are just him puppetting his senile father and white trash mother. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 20:04, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
*** I think you mean "parotting". I doubt Chris is able to project his delusions onto even his own parents. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 23:14, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
*** Even further than that, the fact that Chris didn't tell his parents about his near-arrest and tried to hide it proves that he is either very afraid of them or will do anything to avoid trouble (even if it is impractical or impossible). I'm also very interested in this apparent theft of Chris's funds. I'm wondering if someone really did break in to mess with his account, or whether Chris bought more shit than he could afford, and is trying to cover it up by claiming "trolls did it" --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 20:25, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
**Sully, I knew all along that Bob was behind Chris's shit as much as Snorlax. My suspicion was confirmed as fact to almost everyone else (including you) with this call. Just because he punished Chris once in the past does'nt mean that he's a good parent. --[[User:Famicon64|Famicon64]] 17:58, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
Who is that at the end? Sounds like Chris but...really off... - [[User:Captainhowdy|Captainhowdy]] 20:02, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
* Snorlaxicus Maximus. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 20:04, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
** Oh snap! So is this her longest appearance in recorded media? - [[User:Captainhowdy|Captainhowdy]] 20:06, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
*** This needs to get transcribed, this is really good material. [[User:Notslowpoke|Notslowpoke]] 20:13, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
**** ffffffffffffffff why did it get cut off at the end? i wanna hear more of snorlax's rambling --This post brought to you by [[User:ShotgunJones|ShotgunJones]] 20:17, 15 August 2010 (PDT). Thanks for reading!

Nine hours without a transcription. Sons, I am disapoint.
:I'm on the part where Bob talks about trolls hacking Chris's e-mails. This shit is gold. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 20:44, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:*Fuck. As usual, something new comes along when I'm at work. I'll take a look as soon as I get home, assuming Beat doesn't get word of this and leap upon it like the sexy, caped crusader for justice that he is. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 21:01, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

Transcribed. Hopefully without too many mistakes. I'll colorize it as soon as I get myself nice and drunk. --[[User:RTBHBX|RTBHBX]] 21:02, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:And colored. Tugboat Captain if you see any of your additions that I missed coloring, sorry, and please reinsert them. Oh, and I redacted the gAME pLACE phone number because I wasn't sure how kosher it was. If anyone wants to throw it in go right on ahead. --[[User:RTBHBX|RTBHBX]] 21:25, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:* Added a thing here or there, I was working on transcribing it for the past few hours too, but ya beat me to it.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:48, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

And maybe it's just me, but when Matthew says his own name at the beggining, it soulds like Nobles, with an "s". Confirm/deny? Anybody actually know him (how'd we get this in the first place)? --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:52, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
**Actually, I've listened to it, and it really does sound like he's saying Nobles. - [[User:CypherFDP|CypherFDP]] 02:58, 16 August 2010 (PDT)

**I made some very minor changes, including adding the s onto the first Nobles. [[User:Enibure|Enibure]] 19:39, 16 August 2010 (PDT)

==File format==
Could someone with a converter link to an mp3 version of the file? None of the media players on my computer support .ogg files. [[User:Ganondorfdude11|Ganondorfdude11]] 19:47, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

*Use VLC, dude.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:48, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

== Best Buy/Bank incident ==

Do we know more about this bank incident? Sounds to me like Chris probably got caught up in some sort of scam and blamed the DAMN DIRTY TROLLS for it. [[User:KarryLing|KarryLing]] 22:09, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:Considering how stupid and naive Chris is, I wouldn't put it past him. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 22:26, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:So, either trolls deliberatley going after him, some usual credit card fraud that happened to happen to Chris, or Chris lying out his ass to try to cover himself. Either way, Matthew is a master of Zen for speaking with a straight voice after that paragraph.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:47, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:I doubt it's as much "credit card fraud" as Chris-chan [[Chris and money|being his own spend-spreeing self]]. Bob got a wind of his statement, and Chris did the first thing that came to his mind: blame someone else. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 23:09, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
::Either way, if trolls actually did it or Chris did it and is now lying about it, someone could get in some serious trouble for credit card fraud. If it is indeed Chris' doing, this could get good. [[User:KarryLing|KarryLing]] 01:36, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:::Well, if it ''is'' Chris' own fault (which *is* the most probable scenario), it's not fraud- if somehow he did commit fraud, it'd be entirely on accident, I'm sure. Lying to your parents about your massive debt; dumb as all fuck (read: par for course), but not illegal. Chris stealing his parents cards; that IS fraud, but the only way that'd get taken to court is if Bob and Snorlax themselves somehow decided to kick Chris out and sue him. As fucking awesome as that'd be, not a chance in hell. --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 02:03, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:::: I think Chris just spent too much money and blamed those DAMN DIRTY TROLLS--[[User:Monkeytacoz|Monkeytacoz]] 07:48, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:::: What I meant by fraud is assuming that somehow (Likely through Bob or Barbara) Chris finds out that he can call the credit card company and say that the charges were unauthorized and get them taken off the account. I could see Chris abusing this very quickly. [[User:KarryLing|KarryLing]] 12:13, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
::::: Oh, in that case: :D --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 20:14, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:::::: It shouldn't be that hard to convince Chris to upload a copy of his latest credit card statement. We know he spends a LOT on [[PS3|PSN DLC]], but what about his other purchases? Credit card companies take fraud claims very seriously, and would at the bare minimum shut off the card while they conduct an investigation. --[[User:Captkrisma|Captkrisma]]

==Follow up call?==
I totally think somebody should phone them up again pretending to be the owner of the GAMe PLACe this time, following on from this comment from Bob:

''"Now, if you would like to have me talk to your owner I would be glad to- and my wife would be glad to go to a meeting with him about your place and how it's corrupting the whole neighborhood!"''

It'd be nice to hear some more conspiratorial shit from Boblax about how the GAMe PLACe is "corrupting the whole neighborhood!", and we know that they are chomping at the bit to talk to the owner. Just a though...-[[User:Beemunk|Beemunk]] 22:17, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

*"It's all a plot by the GAMe PLACe in league with the Greene County School District to persecute our son for being autistic. The Jews and gays are sent by them to harass Christian just for being the understanding, God-fearing, well-adjusted, mature young man we raised him to be. There's also some connection to the hispanics and blacks to keep him from getting a job and taking away all the white women keeping him from his true love."--[[User:PhilRaptor|PhilRaptor]] 23:29, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

:*Could be worse: Bob and Chris could know the word "Sheeple."--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:57, 16 August 2010 (PDT)

::*Worse yet, Bob could know people in the Tea Party. --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 09:03, 16 August 2010 (PDT)

==You do realize...==
That Matthew sounds just like Alec Benson Leary right? Coincidence? I think not. --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 22:50, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:Apparently we don't like to disclose identities of trolls, but I think "ALB" of the calls, the [[Rollin' and Trollin']] cameraman, and the Mr. Hyde of [[Magical Man Potion]] are the same person. Probably a Charlottesville FA. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 23:07, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
::I thought the same thing when he started talking. This is the most interesting thing to happen in months, hopefully we can find out about the credit card business and all of that. --[[User:Straw|Straw]] 23:28, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

== Letter ==

What sort of letter would Bob want to be sent? Chris steals troll-related mail and Bob is already talking to the (supposed) Game Place employee on the phone, so what sense does it make to want a letter? --[[User:Straw|Straw]] 23:49, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:Bob doesn't know that Chris steals the troll mail.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 00:03, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
::Too bad we do not know the mechnics of how exactly. Like does Bob or Snorlax actually get the mail out of the box, or does Chris do it? If maybe Bob would see stuff on a postcard before Chris got to it.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:55, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:::Well, if they receive a large number of postcards/letters over one day or a week containing information they may not know (house tour still being online and whatever else people can think of), they would have a better chance of seeing something or Chris getting freaked out at all these letters coming in from around the country. --[[User:Straw|Straw]] 03:53, 16 August 2010 (PDT)

== Sent video to Michael Snyder ==

I sent the video to Michael on YouTube; he needs to get a hold of this and address the video considering that Bob and Barb want to talk to him THAT bad. Even though he probably gets hundreds of messages and somebody may have already sent him the vid, I just felt it was important that he got a hold of this. --[[User:Famicon64|Famicon64]] 10:00, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:Isn't there a possibility Michael won't be happy that someone is pretending to work at the Game Place? I don't really know his personality or how he feels about the trolling but if it brings him into it I'm not really sure if he wants that. --[[User:Straw|Straw]] 10:05, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
::I bet Mike would see the caller's intentions (knock sense into Chris's parents); even though he might be a little miffed that someone was posing as an employee of his store, he's unlikely to go ballistic over the matter like Chris would because the caller was only trying to reason with Chris's parents. --[[User:Famicon64|Famicon64]] 10:21, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:::Regardless how he takes the use of his store as a cover, I am sure Mike will be more than glad to share with us his views of his rise to fame as a conspiracy mastermind. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 10:38, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
::I was just thinking this as well. Posing as anyone from The Game Place is pretty risky. There's a big potential for collateral damage to innocent parties. --[[User:Kettle5000|Kettle5000]] 13:31, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:Why would you decide to be the guy to do this? If Snyder reacts poorly to someone posing as one of his employees, we could easily be the ones to lose out. You also (presumably) have no idea if alerting Snyder conflicts with the plans of the person who was good enough to bring us this call. I've been happily lurking the CWCki for a stupidly long time and have never felt the need to get involved, but was moved to register today just to point out that this may be a stupendously dumbfuck move. [[User:LisaLisa|LisaLisa]] 16:48, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
::Pretty much what LisaLisa said... I've looked at your talk page, and you have a history of doing shit that is totally unnecessary without asking. You'd think you would have learned by now.--[[User:Inos|Inos]] 05:09, 17 August 2010 (PDT)

*When you say they want to talk to Snyder that bad, are you getting that from where they say they want to talk to the owner? Cos they don't mean Snyder, the owner is someone else. If you're talking about them accusing Snyder of fraud, well, maybe that's something he should be made aware of. --[[User:Silomentality|Silomentality]] 17:35, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
**The latter was the reason why I alerted Snyder; accusations of credit card fraud and stealing money from somebody's bank account are extremely serious, especially behind somebody's back (in this case Mike's). If he knew of the allegations, the Chandlers could be in deep shit for accusing him of a crime that he never committed, especially when there is no evidence of fraud. --[[User:Famicon64|Famicon64]] 19:15, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
**God dammit Famicon, don't do this ever again. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 05:22, 17 August 2010 (PDT)
*** That was a really dumb thing to do Famicon. --[[User:Monkeytacoz|Monkeytacoz]] 08:26, 17 August 2010 (PDT)
**** Hey, Famicon. If accusations caused legal trouble the way you think they do, half the internet would be in prison. You're a fucking idiot. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 09:56, 17 August 2010 (PDT)
***** Whatever --[[User:Famicon64|Famicon64]] 10:20, 17 August 2010 (PDT)
***** BTW Sully (and everyone else pissed with me), you're the idiots here for seriously expecting me to cover up an alleged plot that I was never notified of. Hell I'll even CALL the Game Place if you guys don't chill out about this >:). --[[User:Famicon64|Famicon64]] 10:28, 17 August 2010 (PDT)
****** Let guess, you're going to scream JULAYY, right?--[[User:Monkeytacoz|Monkeytacoz]] 10:53, 17 August 2010 (PDT)
****** Jesus Christ. I think there should be some sort of application process/IQ test before people are allowed in here/PVCC/etc. [[User:Xanatos|Xanatos]] 11:24, 17 August 2010 (PDT)
****** You were never notified? Since when did anything have to be run by you? Enough of the LOL I TROL U BETTER STEP BACK shit, just shut the fuck up before you embarrass yourself further. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 11:53, 17 August 2010 (PDT)

Talk:Matthew Nobles call

2010-08-17T16:57:27Z

Sully: lolmakingtensesmatchup

Talk:Matthew Nobles call

2010-08-17T16:56:31Z

Sully: /* Sent video to Michael Snyder */

This is important shit guys, mostly detailing Bob's theory of the conspiracy that trolling originated from [[Megan]], Michael Synder, and "a few gay guys."--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:38, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:Yeah, this is awesome. Now, if we had Matthew's email, we could verify the "George Millson" case a few of us are looking into, seeing as it's possible proof of Chris hypnotizing someone into believing Chris is a good person. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 19:02, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
::What are you talking about? --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 20:13, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:::Either look at the talk pages of either CypherFDP, Msummers or me, or email enginegeorge@yahoo.com asking what happened between him and Chris. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 20:41, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
* Most upsetting Bob oriented thing to date. He's equally responsible for Chris growing up to be a useless sack of shit. I liked the world better when I thought it was all Barb's fault. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 19:06, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
** It's the final proof that Chris's vague understanding of reality and tendency towards conspiracy are just him puppetting his senile father and white trash mother. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 20:04, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
*** I think you mean "parotting". I doubt Chris is able to project his delusions onto even his own parents. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 23:14, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
*** Even further than that, the fact that Chris didn't tell his parents about his near-arrest and tried to hide it proves that he is either very afraid of them or will do anything to avoid trouble (even if it is impractical or impossible). I'm also very interested in this apparent theft of Chris's funds. I'm wondering if someone really did break in to mess with his account, or whether Chris bought more shit than he could afford, and is trying to cover it up by claiming "trolls did it" --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 20:25, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
**Sully, I knew all along that Bob was behind Chris's shit as much as Snorlax. My suspicion was confirmed as fact to almost everyone else (including you) with this call. Just because he punished Chris once in the past does'nt mean that he's a good parent. --[[User:Famicon64|Famicon64]] 17:58, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
Who is that at the end? Sounds like Chris but...really off... - [[User:Captainhowdy|Captainhowdy]] 20:02, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
* Snorlaxicus Maximus. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 20:04, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
** Oh snap! So is this her longest appearance in recorded media? - [[User:Captainhowdy|Captainhowdy]] 20:06, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
*** This needs to get transcribed, this is really good material. [[User:Notslowpoke|Notslowpoke]] 20:13, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
**** ffffffffffffffff why did it get cut off at the end? i wanna hear more of snorlax's rambling --This post brought to you by [[User:ShotgunJones|ShotgunJones]] 20:17, 15 August 2010 (PDT). Thanks for reading!

Nine hours without a transcription. Sons, I am disapoint.
:I'm on the part where Bob talks about trolls hacking Chris's e-mails. This shit is gold. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 20:44, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:*Fuck. As usual, something new comes along when I'm at work. I'll take a look as soon as I get home, assuming Beat doesn't get word of this and leap upon it like the sexy, caped crusader for justice that he is. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 21:01, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

Transcribed. Hopefully without too many mistakes. I'll colorize it as soon as I get myself nice and drunk. --[[User:RTBHBX|RTBHBX]] 21:02, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:And colored. Tugboat Captain if you see any of your additions that I missed coloring, sorry, and please reinsert them. Oh, and I redacted the gAME pLACE phone number because I wasn't sure how kosher it was. If anyone wants to throw it in go right on ahead. --[[User:RTBHBX|RTBHBX]] 21:25, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:* Added a thing here or there, I was working on transcribing it for the past few hours too, but ya beat me to it.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:48, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

And maybe it's just me, but when Matthew says his own name at the beggining, it soulds like Nobles, with an "s". Confirm/deny? Anybody actually know him (how'd we get this in the first place)? --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:52, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
**Actually, I've listened to it, and it really does sound like he's saying Nobles. - [[User:CypherFDP|CypherFDP]] 02:58, 16 August 2010 (PDT)

**I made some very minor changes, including adding the s onto the first Nobles. [[User:Enibure|Enibure]] 19:39, 16 August 2010 (PDT)

==File format==
Could someone with a converter link to an mp3 version of the file? None of the media players on my computer support .ogg files. [[User:Ganondorfdude11|Ganondorfdude11]] 19:47, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

*Use VLC, dude.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:48, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

== Best Buy/Bank incident ==

Do we know more about this bank incident? Sounds to me like Chris probably got caught up in some sort of scam and blamed the DAMN DIRTY TROLLS for it. [[User:KarryLing|KarryLing]] 22:09, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:Considering how stupid and naive Chris is, I wouldn't put it past him. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 22:26, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:So, either trolls deliberatley going after him, some usual credit card fraud that happened to happen to Chris, or Chris lying out his ass to try to cover himself. Either way, Matthew is a master of Zen for speaking with a straight voice after that paragraph.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 22:47, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:I doubt it's as much "credit card fraud" as Chris-chan [[Chris and money|being his own spend-spreeing self]]. Bob got a wind of his statement, and Chris did the first thing that came to his mind: blame someone else. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 23:09, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
::Either way, if trolls actually did it or Chris did it and is now lying about it, someone could get in some serious trouble for credit card fraud. If it is indeed Chris' doing, this could get good. [[User:KarryLing|KarryLing]] 01:36, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:::Well, if it ''is'' Chris' own fault (which *is* the most probable scenario), it's not fraud- if somehow he did commit fraud, it'd be entirely on accident, I'm sure. Lying to your parents about your massive debt; dumb as all fuck (read: par for course), but not illegal. Chris stealing his parents cards; that IS fraud, but the only way that'd get taken to court is if Bob and Snorlax themselves somehow decided to kick Chris out and sue him. As fucking awesome as that'd be, not a chance in hell. --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 02:03, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:::: I think Chris just spent too much money and blamed those DAMN DIRTY TROLLS--[[User:Monkeytacoz|Monkeytacoz]] 07:48, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:::: What I meant by fraud is assuming that somehow (Likely through Bob or Barbara) Chris finds out that he can call the credit card company and say that the charges were unauthorized and get them taken off the account. I could see Chris abusing this very quickly. [[User:KarryLing|KarryLing]] 12:13, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
::::: Oh, in that case: :D --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 20:14, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:::::: It shouldn't be that hard to convince Chris to upload a copy of his latest credit card statement. We know he spends a LOT on [[PS3|PSN DLC]], but what about his other purchases? Credit card companies take fraud claims very seriously, and would at the bare minimum shut off the card while they conduct an investigation. --[[User:Captkrisma|Captkrisma]]

==Follow up call?==
I totally think somebody should phone them up again pretending to be the owner of the GAMe PLACe this time, following on from this comment from Bob:

''"Now, if you would like to have me talk to your owner I would be glad to- and my wife would be glad to go to a meeting with him about your place and how it's corrupting the whole neighborhood!"''

It'd be nice to hear some more conspiratorial shit from Boblax about how the GAMe PLACe is "corrupting the whole neighborhood!", and we know that they are chomping at the bit to talk to the owner. Just a though...-[[User:Beemunk|Beemunk]] 22:17, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

*"It's all a plot by the GAMe PLACe in league with the Greene County School District to persecute our son for being autistic. The Jews and gays are sent by them to harass Christian just for being the understanding, God-fearing, well-adjusted, mature young man we raised him to be. There's also some connection to the hispanics and blacks to keep him from getting a job and taking away all the white women keeping him from his true love."--[[User:PhilRaptor|PhilRaptor]] 23:29, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

:*Could be worse: Bob and Chris could know the word "Sheeple."--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:57, 16 August 2010 (PDT)

::*Worse yet, Bob could know people in the Tea Party. --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 09:03, 16 August 2010 (PDT)

==You do realize...==
That Matthew sounds just like Alec Benson Leary right? Coincidence? I think not. --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 22:50, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:Apparently we don't like to disclose identities of trolls, but I think "ALB" of the calls, the [[Rollin' and Trollin']] cameraman, and the Mr. Hyde of [[Magical Man Potion]] are the same person. Probably a Charlottesville FA. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 23:07, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
::I thought the same thing when he started talking. This is the most interesting thing to happen in months, hopefully we can find out about the credit card business and all of that. --[[User:Straw|Straw]] 23:28, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

== Letter ==

What sort of letter would Bob want to be sent? Chris steals troll-related mail and Bob is already talking to the (supposed) Game Place employee on the phone, so what sense does it make to want a letter? --[[User:Straw|Straw]] 23:49, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:Bob doesn't know that Chris steals the troll mail.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 00:03, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
::Too bad we do not know the mechnics of how exactly. Like does Bob or Snorlax actually get the mail out of the box, or does Chris do it? If maybe Bob would see stuff on a postcard before Chris got to it.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 00:55, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:::Well, if they receive a large number of postcards/letters over one day or a week containing information they may not know (house tour still being online and whatever else people can think of), they would have a better chance of seeing something or Chris getting freaked out at all these letters coming in from around the country. --[[User:Straw|Straw]] 03:53, 16 August 2010 (PDT)

== Sent video to Michael Snyder ==

I sent the video to Michael on YouTube; he needs to get a hold of this and address the video considering that Bob and Barb want to talk to him THAT bad. Even though he probably gets hundreds of messages and somebody may have already sent him the vid, I just felt it was important that he got a hold of this. --[[User:Famicon64|Famicon64]] 10:00, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:Isn't there a possibility Michael won't be happy that someone is pretending to work at the Game Place? I don't really know his personality or how he feels about the trolling but if it brings him into it I'm not really sure if he wants that. --[[User:Straw|Straw]] 10:05, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
::I bet Mike would see the caller's intentions (knock sense into Chris's parents); even though he might be a little miffed that someone was posing as an employee of his store, he's unlikely to go ballistic over the matter like Chris would because the caller was only trying to reason with Chris's parents. --[[User:Famicon64|Famicon64]] 10:21, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:::Regardless how he takes the use of his store as a cover, I am sure Mike will be more than glad to share with us his views of his rise to fame as a conspiracy mastermind. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 10:38, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
::I was just thinking this as well. Posing as anyone from The Game Place is pretty risky. There's a big potential for collateral damage to innocent parties. --[[User:Kettle5000|Kettle5000]] 13:31, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:Why would you decide to be the guy to do this? If Snyder reacts poorly to someone posing as one of his employees, we could easily be the ones to lose out. You also (presumably) have no idea if alerting Snyder conflicts with the plans of the person who was good enough to bring us this call. I've been happily lurking the CWCki for a stupidly long time and have never felt the need to get involved, but was moved to register today just to point out that this may be a stupendously dumbfuck move. [[User:LisaLisa|LisaLisa]] 16:48, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
::Pretty much what LisaLisa said... I've looked at your talk page, and you have a history of doing shit that is totally unnecessary without asking. You'd think you would have learned by now.--[[User:Inos|Inos]] 05:09, 17 August 2010 (PDT)

*When you say they want to talk to Snyder that bad, are you getting that from where they say they want to talk to the owner? Cos they don't mean Snyder, the owner is someone else. If you're talking about them accusing Snyder of fraud, well, maybe that's something he should be made aware of. --[[User:Silomentality|Silomentality]] 17:35, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
**The latter was the reason why I alerted Snyder; accusations of credit card fraud and stealing money from somebody's bank account are extremely serious, especially behind somebody's back (in this case Mike's). If he knew of the allegations, the Chandlers could be in deep shit for accusing him of a crime that he never committed, especially when there is no evidence of fraud. --[[User:Famicon64|Famicon64]] 19:15, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
**God dammit Famicon, don't do this ever again. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 05:22, 17 August 2010 (PDT)
*** That was a really dumb thing to do Famicon. --[[User:Monkeytacoz|Monkeytacoz]] 08:26, 17 August 2010 (PDT)
**** Hey, Famicon. If accusations caused legal trouble the way you think it does, half the internet would be in prison. You're a fucking idiot. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 09:56, 17 August 2010 (PDT)

Talk:Matthew Nobles call

2010-08-16T02:06:07Z

Sully:

CWCki:General

2010-07-19T05:48:08Z

Sully: /* "fan works purge", including TV Tropes even here */

__NEWSECTIONLINK__
For discussion that doesn't fit into the other community pages - though do keep it related to the CWCki.

== Chris and Love Suggestion? ==
I was thinking we should add a new article on the "Chris and...." series. Perhaps "Romance"? Maybe give an insight on his idea of being romantic. I feel we could write good article on this. There's a shit load of cheesy awkward sayings. Also,an observation on his behavior on dates with trolls could be good. Just a thought. --[[User:Bealtespip122]]

* Not a bad idea. Because Chris has blurred the line between romance and sex. With him, it's one in the same. Would be interesting to poke at I think. [[User:Chris_Pickles|Chris_Pickles]]

Aye, "romance" to him is just a means to an end. He sees act of dating as not about two people enjoying each others company, it's just to test compatibility so they can eventually fuck. Anything beyond that is just a ruse to keep the woman interested. I can't imagine him having a sincere desire to have an emotional connection with another human being, he just wants to be coddled and pleased. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 05:10, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

*[[Love quest]] more or less seems to cover this.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:38, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

*I'd say the Love Quest really covers his attempts at "reelin' in da ladiez" and being thwarted by outside forces. Not so much as a personal insight into what Chris thinks is romantic or sweet. --[[User:Bealtespip122|Bealtespip122]] 16:31, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
** Rather than being covered by the love quest page, it's just mentioned; same treatment for [[Chris and sex]]. The events of the Megan, Ivy, and Wallflower sagas tell a lot about his view of romance. Can't forget the essential McDonald's date either. Without some good writing, though, it might not make the best article. --[[User:Schuzrum-dias|Schuzrum Dias]] 17:35, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== Fridays After Five yet again ==

This probably isn't a big surprise to anyone, but Chris was also at Fridays After Five on July 16th. No pictures, I'm afraid. He was wearing a bright orange sleeveless shirt with what looked like a beer logo on the back and holding a Budweiser aluminum bottle, a little mini fan made to look like an iPod, and a hula hoop for some reason. Most importantly he had a sort of basic attraction sign with him, nothing elaborate or directly sexual but it said something like "Friendly and Flirty Man Zone" or something similar to that and with more smaller text under that I couldn't make out. He was sitting on the back grass part and left a few minutes before the music was over. I would have loved to catch Chris's attempts at using the hula hoop, I bet that was funny as hell. [[User:Camelopardalis|Camelopardalis]] 03:25, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
*Good work. Mind getting some pictures next time? [[User:CrassCrab|CrassCrab]] 03:28, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
**If I get to Charlottesville again when it's going on, I'll see what I can do. [[User:Camelopardalis|Camelopardalis]] 03:53, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
::*No pressure. It's your prerogative. [[User:CrassCrab|CrassCrab]] 03:59, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:::* If you're some tard trying to get attention, fuck you, die. I have to put that disclaimer in nowadays, nothing personal. If you're being TRUE and HONEST, thank you so much for reporting this, because Chris holding something that says "Friendly and Flirty Man Zone" would be the most unintentionally hilarious thing that has ever happened. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 05:33, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

== "fan works purge", including TV Tropes even here ==

[http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/Special:Log/delete Partying like it's 1937] makes me kinda sad. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 05:42, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
* Meh. That Tropes "article" was one of the biggest crimes in CWCki history, and the Charles Wilbur Crushman thing was the first online item I've come across that was such a steaming pile of shit I could actually smell it. The rest I have no comment on, but there was so much selfsucking garbage on here that it justified a deletion policy, and it probably justified said deletion as well. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 05:48, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

CWCki:General

2010-07-19T05:33:11Z

Sully: /* Fridays After Five yet again */

CWCki:Policy

2010-07-14T03:12:42Z

Sully: /* Re:Examples of bad fanworks */

__NEWSECTIONLINK__
For discussion of CWCki policy and rules.

== Fan Works policy ==

right now there aren't really any rules regards what can and cannot go in the fan namespace. this is because i trusted users to judge for themselves whether or not their work belonged on the cwcki. so, let's get its purpose straight: fan works was meant to be PVCC's troll productions subforum, but public. it is not, however, a mirror site incase deviantart goes down. i feel that some individuals are forgetting that this is a wiki about CWC. now, it's quite tricky to say what can and cannot be hosted here. there are very few examples of things being uploaded that are completely unrelated to chris or sonichu. however, i will try my best to clarify what is appropriate.

'''Examples of good fanworks:'''
* A drawing of CWC saying DYKES DYKES CHINA being placed into the "CWC's Second Message" article
* An "artist's depiction" of something we have no pictures of but how it may have looked, i.e. Chris in the mall with his attraction sign, Chris using his "red string of fate", Chris's IRL confrontation with Mary Lee Walsh, [[Fapcup]], etc
* Comics what are actually funny

'''Examples of bad fanworks:'''
* A Sonichu comic depicting how you think Sonichu should have been
* Shitty recolored Sonichu and Rosechu "original characters"
* Your shitty fursona with a Sonichu tail shoved up its ass

to summarise, i think the distinction lies in whether or not it is actually related to ''chris''. there are lots of things related to sonichu, many of which include chris, but are actually disconnected from chris's antics themselves. i don't think these are appropriate for this wiki, and i see their numbers increasing(although i would like to refrain from naming names).

please discuss any changes or clarifications that you wish made, however i would like to implement these new rules by the end of the week. if a user feels their own uploads were, in light of these policy changes, in error then they can remove them now to save the jerkops the trouble of removing them later.

PEACE, AND HAVE A GOOD DAY --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 21:59, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity, could we see just what works are and are not on the chopping block? Just so we can see where we stand on this. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 02:54, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
* i guess it might be useful to have a template for that --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 09:26, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

No. When the purge is complete you will know exactly where you stand. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 03:07, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Um, does one need any kind of admin status to delete files? I'm trying to figure this out. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 03:32, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

==Just who decides what's worthy?==
I can get behind the fact that you want this wiki to be about Chris, with his Sonichu works simply being an extension of him. What bothers me is how all this hate coming from users complaining about fan works they simply don't care for. If fan works are removed all together from here, I'd be alright with that. But when someone said "all Sonichu-related works need to go, except the ones I like!" it seems more like favoritism rather than objective policy. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 00:13, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, though I myself am hardly unbiased. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|manwithoutabody]] 00:28, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it's almost like this wiki is run by trolls who cae not for your feelings.--[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 01:47, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Just because we troll Chris doesn't mean we can't deal with each other in a civilized manner. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|manwithoutabody]] 02:42, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

You don't troll shit, spud. [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 02:44, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Can anything be done on this site without creating a shitstorm? This isn't some crusade against drawfags, and it shouldn't be painted as such by EITHER side. The site is about Chris, and the large amount of coverage on his creations is only because they made up such a large part of his life. The CWCki isn't about Sonichu, it's about Chris. Maybe some exceptions can be made, but for now fanworks not directly about Chris need to go. I myself enjoy many, especially Fear and Loathing in CWCville, but unless it is used to successfully troll Chris, it doesn't belong here.
Thing is, we need a peaceful resolution to this. Shit with faggot users and /cwc/ is bad enough, we don't need this to blow up. Maybe exceptional fanworks can be allowed; if not, they can be hosted on DA, or perhaps a site devoted to Sonichu. The artists and fans need to remember that this isn't an attack against their work, it's just policy. Users who want to be active in the execution of this policy need to not be dicks about it, and be responsible about it. It's not "deleting shit one doesn't like," it's removing unnecessary images and articles. --[[User:Schuzrum-dias|Schuzrum Dias]] 02:58, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:Well, like I've said before, I will print out every page, bind it, and mail it to him when I'm finished. Which should be in two weeks or so. If my works are deleted before then, I'm not going to worry too much. In fact, it wouldn't bother me much at all if the entire fan section was removed and all fan art was deleted. I'm just a little put off from the vitriol a lot of the critics are spewing. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 03:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
::You think he's going to read it, that's cute. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 03:36, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Maybe, maybe not, what's the harm in trying? The most it'll cost me is a few bucks in postage. Well, that and the markers. Now I understand why he textwalls so much, those things dry out quick! :P --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 03:49, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

That makes sense. I could totally get on board starting a new site just to host these things. If we do so, though, we need clearly-defined criteria as to what gets to stay. Limiting ourselves to stuff Chris has seen would be fair, but it would need to be absolutely enforced. Which is to say, we couldn't have a page on ''Chris Gets Laid'', excellent though it is, unless he himself responded to it in some way. -[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 03:31, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

You could do that. That's entirely acceptable, as it focuses on Chris and its activities. What you couldn't do is a story about a Sonichu recolor having some dumb adventure while Chris gets laid as a side-story. [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 03:37, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Well by those rules, we'd have to delete the page on ''Sonichu Is Dead'', because Chris barely appears in it. We need a single, objective policy for what gets to stay and what doesn't, regardless of quality. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 11:40, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree that there has to be some kind of objective criteria, not just what largely seems to be "Your fic/comic is bad, and you should feel bad, ur a furfag lawl." If you want to cut fics because the Fan section is getting out of hand, fine. Just come up with a standard that makes sense and enforce it. If the "How you think Sonichu should have been" rule is enforced, then the entire fan section will be pretty much gutted. If we go with the "About Chris not Sonichu", well pretty much every fic has Chris' Mary Sue Avatar Combined with his real self on there, so where's the line? Is it IRL Chris, or Comic Chris? [[User:Mellowyellowsalvation|Mellowyellowsalvation]] 16:41, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
*That's why I think limiting ourselves to stuff to which Chris has responded makes the most sense. He either did, or he didn't, and there are no shades of grey. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 02:05, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

*As I've said elsewhere, I personally think the Fan Works index is more of a hassle than it's worth and we should get rid of it. Clyde has suggested a separate wiki and I think that might be the best solution. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:47, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

== Re:Examples of bad fanworks ==

Most of the fan works don't seem to fall in any of those categories. Is there something else that's a problem?--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 00:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
*No, a lot of the admins are just fickle, want things they specifically don't like deleted no matter if there was a good reason or not, and don't seem to realize that trolls don't necessarily have to be asses to anyone and everyone. [[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 12:35, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
* Right. It's that, it has nothing to do with an overwhelming majority of it being some sick fucks fantasy and has virtually or literally nothing to do with Chris. They're just angry, angry DAMN DIRTY SLANDEROUS TROLLS. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 03:12, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Dumb suggestion ==

Why couldn't we just grandfather stuff in? --[[User:GandWuser|GandWuser]] 12:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

== my suggestion ==

wipe everything and start a new wiki because i'm cutting down everything that's eating up resources. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 16:31, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
*people should pay attention to me more. also pay attention to me. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 16:48, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I like this idea. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 17:00, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

i've been considering moving to a new version of mediawiki, but might as well wait for 1.16 to reach stable. this should go on technical though i guess --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 19:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

CWCki talk:Policy

2010-07-12T22:01:32Z

Sully: Created page with 'Not a moment too soon. Thank God. ~~~~'

Not a moment too soon. Thank God. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 22:01, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

CWCki:Community Portal

2010-07-01T03:09:26Z

Sully: /* 16bitfaggot B& BryanBash */

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The Community Portal is designed to be a public forum to discuss CWCki related affairs for site wide concerns, policy, that sort of thing.

Please consult the archives to make sure your concern hasn't already been posted before:

'''Archive:''' [[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 1|1]] [[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 2|2]] [[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 3|3]]
[[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 4|4]] [[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 5|5]] [[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 6|6]] [[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 7|7]] [[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 8|8]]

== Since I've been gone ==

I was in the hospital for a few days and apparently, shit came up. Looks like shit was settled though...or was it? Your thoughts, people. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:20, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*Define "shit" Champ. Shit as in Chris's madness on flipnote, shit as in the Asperpedia hack, or shit as in Alex being a retard? In any case, nothing was settled. At all. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:50, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*Mostly agree; Chris has been typical Chris on Flipnote and Asperpedia is still being fucking weird, but 16BitAlex is gone, and BabyNeko left as well in a flurry of drama, so that specific shit has settled for the moment. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 21:59, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
*Well, BabyNeko is gone. But Alex certainly is not. He said he was going, but like certain other manchildren before him, he is continueing to frequent that which he said he would leave forever, posting more bullshit about apples and his racist views on asian women or some shit like that. I have no clue what he's really saying. He used to make sense, and then his language just devolved into retarded babbling. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 22:31, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
**I removed my "retarded babbling". --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 00:07, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
***Your "DELETE FUCKING EVERYTHING" tactic just makes you look worse, you know.--[[User:Star Platinum|Star Platinum]] 01:59, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
*Typical garden-variety madness, nothing serious. I wish you a speedy recovery. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:53, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:*Faggots did drama, Chris kept on being Chris. Hope whatever hospitalized you wasn't too serious and that you get well soon.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 18:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

==Long time, no see==

I was reading an issue of Rolling Stone yesterday, and I found out that California rejected funding for an IRL homosexuality "cure". Wouldn't it be fun if we told Chris about this, just for his reaction? Guys? --[[User:SniperFire16|SniperFire16]] 15:42, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

:Possibly. Actually, the way things are going now, he could start building an actual political platform that would include anti-badmouthing, homo vaccines, and dating education. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:37, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

== 16bitfaggot B& BryanBash ==

I am a humble user, barely making edits and staying out of this petty drama. But this is far, far more of a crime than I can let go by unpunished. Ban this faggot.--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 02:04, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

What the fuck happened? I'm a bit out of the loop. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:23, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

*16bitAlex is being lame. Unfortunately, it's the poisonous kind of lame that compels others to act lame in a display of how much they hate him. At least I think that's what's going on.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:27, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
**That's about right. I forget where it started, but you can see a lot of it on Delabonte's page. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 02:28, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
***My personal justification is that I needed a reason to act like a fag to somebody, and to put it bluntly, he's the perfect excuse. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 02:31, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
****What did your girlfriend break up with you, and now you're hiding your secret pain by lashing out on the internet? I realize he's being a moron and I'm honestly shocked he hasn't been banned yet, but you guys have managed to fill the entire recent changes page with your little bitch fight against him on multiple occasions. That shit is just sad.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:51, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
*****Haven't had a girlfriend in months. Sorry about the recent changes thing, I guess it didn't occur to me that that was the case. I came here back in January primarily as a troll, and I hadn't done any trolling here yet. Call me immature, but it was doing what I came here to do, and it was satisfying. Seems like it's just about blown over now though, so I'll resume normal editing duties shortly. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 02:57, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
******Sorry about clogging the first page of recent changes on your website dedicated to documenting everything a 28 year old manbaby has ever done. Seriously, fucking relax. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 03:09, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== Times Square Billboard Images ==

Where on the cwcki can I view them?
[[User:BigDipper|BigDipper]] 19:20 30 June 2010 (UTC)

User:16BitAlex

2010-07-01T02:09:21Z

Sully: /* I give up on this trolling business */

{{Hiatus}}

And, I won't be back under this username, on advice of Edward.

For extra security, I will attempt to ban myself:

Nope, didn't work.

== NEW David Hia COMIX ==

'''David Hia IN VIDEO GAME VULGARIANS:'''

http://i.imgur.com/VvyV2h.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/QiTiwh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/HIO4th.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/eBFWJh.jpg

== David Hia COMIX FROM THE SAINTLY DAYS OF YORE ==

'''David Hia IN BOOKSTORE BUFFOONS'''

http://i.imgur.com/YvAaAh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/YVmXWh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/xnXXnh.jpg

'''David Hia IN ROCK BAND RAPSCALLIONS'''

http://i.imgur.com/65C8qh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/k17jGh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/qiiQdh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/fHxbQh.jpg

==I give up on this trolling business==

I'm just a cowardly observer and do not have the guts to become a troll. I only wanted to because everyone else had some level above "observer" for a userbox. I just wanted to be one of the cool kids and did not know what it entailed. I even idolized you guys, and to have the likes of Crass of Crass and Champ (in the IRC attack) and Sean of the Asperpedia Four (the comics, I recognize the style) attacking me destroyed me.

I'll just quietly settle into my position as an observer. Stop demonizing and dehumanizing me. I'm not like this all the time, only when provoked. But, that is the job of a troll. Just know that I am not a good target. I'm trying to get my life off the ground here. '''Putting my real name will just make it so that employers can Google me up, see this shit, and then consider me unemployable. You put the troll comics here, but don't attach my real name to them. I don't want to have to ride the tugboat.'''

For the record, it was my fault originally for wanting in the PVCC and starting RuleCWC over not getting in. It was also the fault of the PVCC, for launching the original assault on RuleCWC and doxing me, and Delabonte, for fanning the flames after the attack.

If I had known that:

1. I do not have the heart or mind of a troll
2. PVCC is for the trolls only
3. Cafe Rosechu is available for observers

I wouldn't have wanted in the PVCC in the first place. I learned this the hard way, which cost me my dignity.

:PVCC isn't for trolls only. We have plenty of non-trolls in there who talk about shit and stuff. But yes, you definitely don't have a heart or mind. also i wuz the one to dox you lol [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 19:59, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

::I still can't believe I believed the Georgeson stuff. And, I should be first on your bad users list, not this BabyNeko nobody. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 21:17, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

And most of all, I want to be un-dox'd. My real name is now almost as tarnished as Adolf Hitler.

* Yeah, now it is: http://davidhia.110mb.com/index.htm
* Holy fucking shit you're a pro at blowing things out of proportion. Wow. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 02:09, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Delabonte

2010-06-28T00:19:03Z

Sully:

At least you get the joke. YOUR AN HERO TO ME, DELABONTE! --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:34, 2 May 2009 (CEST)

Oh lol, my bad. Was in grammar nazi mode, fixing typos. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 16:10, 2 May 2009 (CEST)

==Congratulations!==

You were mentioned in the [[Rollin' and Trollin'|new video]]. Nice. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:48, 17 July 2009 (CEST)

*Thanks. This calls for a box to go on my userpage. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 04:59, 18 July 2009 (CEST)
:*Oh Lord, I just your pro tip on your user page and I LOL'd. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:33, 9 September 2009 (CEST)

==Lovely Weather==
"Sex under false pretence IS statutory rape. Also saying Chris raped his future wife is funnier."

I'm not going to sit here and have an edit war with you, but I believe you are mistaken, Mr. ex-Minister. I can find ''no'' evidence of sex under false pretense being considered rape of any kind. It certainly is sexual assault, but I can't find any legitimate site that claims it to be rape (aside from random postings of failtowns on forums). Unless you can provide some evidence, I'd say that you're simply wrong about that.

On top of that, you're right in saying that it's "funnier" to say that he raped her, but that's not the point. We're supposed to document what actually happened/was implied. We don't need to make up things to make Chris look like more of a douche; he does that for us enough as it is. --[[User:Tristran|Tristran]] 04:15, 11 December 2009 (CET)
*You're... You're kidding, right? If she doesn't know who he is, and thinks he is someone else, she cannot give consent. Sex without consent is rape. You're pretty gross for arguing that's not what happened, because it totally is. --[[User:Sonichuis44|sonichuis44]] 04:26, 11 December 2009 (CET)
:*She ''thinks'' she knows who he is, though. He deceived her and got her to willingly consent to sex with him. That's not ''rape''. It's sexual assault. --[[User:Tristran|Tristran]] 04:30, 11 December 2009 (CET)
:*Every weekend, I'm over at a singles' bar in the area. I always lie out of my ass just to get laid. One week I'm an airplane pilot, the other I'm a venture capitalist, one day I was even a comic book artist. And now you're telling me I'm a rapist? --[[User:Lynxr|Lynxr]] 04:46, 11 December 2009 (CET)
::*Of course she ''thinks'' she does; that's part of the deception. Look, if I dress up like Jimmy Hill and go over to your house and you go "Oh God, Jimmy Hill!" then tear off my clothes and go down on me (cause u gay like that), then I rip off my mask after jizzing on your face and go "Surprise! I'm really Internet Comedian SonichuIs44!" I've raped you. You consented to sex with Jimmy Hill, not with me. Even if I never reveal I'm not Jimmy Hill, I've raped you; you never consented to sex with me. You could at least try arguing it's not rape based on the fact that she's having sex with Chris either way. And pray tell what is the difference between rape and sexual assault?
:::Lynxr, you're not telling them that you're someone else though; if you convinced them you're really Tom Hanks, but you're not (I'll assume you're not), you've deceived them. --[[User:Sonichuis44|sonichuis44]] 04:48, 11 December 2009 (CET)

:::"It certainly is sexual assault" - what do you think rape is? Time-travel sexual assault laws have yet to be tested, but from where I stand if you have sex with someone knowingly under false pretense, then it's not fully consensual. Also, this is the CWCki not the supreme court. And saying Chris travelled through time to rape his future wife is still funnier. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 04:53, 11 December 2009 (CET)
:::*You both have a interesting definitions of consent. What you're saying is that it isn't consent unless she knows the full truth. That's... horribly illogical and simply untrue. Now, specifically for Sonichuis44, the difference between rape and sexual assault is that rape is entirely forced and without consent (or in some cases of statutory rape, simply consensual sex with a minor). Chris ''has consent'' in this case, whether you want to admit that or not. She willingly did it with him, and not under threats or force (unless there's something he's not telling us about this fictional story that he, himself, made up in the first place). It's as simple as that. Maybe what he did violated her, maybe she really wouldn't care all that much if she knew the truth, but it doesn't really matter, but it seems pretty obvious that she agreed to it. Back to the point, though, rape is a ''subset'' of sexual assault. Sexual assault involves undesired sexual contact, but it might not involve intercourse in any way (such as sexual touching), or, even if it does... well... that's relative to who's making the rules in whatever jurisdiction. Some things that are generally considered sexual assault in most places are mitigated to full-blown rape status in other places and vice versa. I don't really care to get too into that, but the fact of the matter is that he had her consent, and that's what's relevant here. However, I'm done arguing about this fictional story. Further arguing about a sexual encounter that never happened, nor ever could (as time-travel like that is, from a logical standpoint, absolutely impossible), seems ridiculous. --[[User:Tristran|Tristran]] 05:17, 11 December 2009 (CET)

*Don't bring logic into this. Also, Chris agrees with you: "You are misunderstood, it was not rape; She mistook me for my future self, and She Asked Me to have sex with her.". This means you are wrong. Good day sir. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 05:31, 11 December 2009 (CET)
:*We may have had a tense discussion, and you may well have been a piss-poor Minister of Defense, but... I've decided that I like you, Seinor Delabonte. Your lulziness rating qualifies you for the much-coveted Badge of Lulziness and All-Around Goodness, which you may apply for by filling out the form that will be mailed to you shortly. Please allow blah blah blah blah. Good day. --[[User:Tristran|Tristran]] 06:54, 11 December 2009 (CET)

== Temporary ban ==

Dude, Cody is a newfag but he's trying his best from what I've seen thus far. I don't give a fuck of he's a juggalo elsewhere and as I told BlueSpike, I'm not banning him from CWCki unless he starts shit here. As I said [[User_talk:Wwwwolf#Question|here]], I will not ban a user unless they do shit on the CWCki like harass users, vandalism, etc.

Delabonte, I am disappoint, son. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:53, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

*I apologise. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 13:52, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

== PRO TIP ==

With the welcome template, you have to manually enter your user name so if a new user wanted to ask you a question, there would be a direct link, so it'd look like <nowiki>{{welcome|Delabonte}}</nowiki> and it would provide a link to your talk page where they can ask you a question. Yeah, it's lame but I'm not sure if the process can be automated or anything. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:58, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

== I love you ==

For your "Not a forum" template. You've made me proud.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:39, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

== User Pages ==

I don't know who you are you what you are, and I don't really care - but don't edit userpages of others. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 16:15, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

I should have known. You are a PVCC member and a member of the old guard. A newfag like me has no chance. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 01:47, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
*You keep repeating this like it's going to make me respect you but continuing with your Autistic actions. Don't shit on my cupcake and tell me it's icing. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 04:07, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
*Hi 16BitAlex. I was informed I'm not allowed to call you a fag on your talk page. So, hi. Fag. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 04:39, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:*HEY GUISE, I MADE A VIDEO THAT WARDS OFF FAGGOTS...

{{#ev:youtube|T0HpSVvGOnQ}}

::LET ME KNOW IF IT WORKS. ALSO, 16BITALEX TOLD ME HE COVERED HIS DICK IN APPLESAUCE AND LIKED IT. THEN HE ERASED IT TO HIDE THAT FACT. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 07:18, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

*This is good and you should feel good. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 07:57, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

==Messages to Alex==

Why did you eat your homework? --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 07:57, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

:It tasted better than apples.
:
:And, I cannot accept. To me, eating apples is equivalent to dressing in women's garments, and unlike Chris, I do not have a desire to be a woman (see Crystal the twin sister). --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 14:42, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

:BTW, I approve of my quote on your user page, unlike that last one. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 16:33, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

1) I have no desire for your approval.
2) We're not singling you out here. All PVCC members have to undergo a test of loyalty. This is yours. If you are too cowardly to complete it please refrain from bitching about the PVCC being a closed community, and remember that you had your chance. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 01:50, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

:(since Gary was a loser and Ash was here last time) This was against my personal beliefs. Almost anything that didn't involve eating or drinking a vile "healthy" substance, I might have done. And then you have the nerve to spit in my face after you gave me a task I could and would not complete. I AM NOT A COWARD. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 03:02, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Do you understand the sacrifices people have made to join the PVCC? Trolling Chris at this level requires nerves of steel. It requires somebody willing to face their worst fear. As you yourself have said, you cannot eat an apple. '''You are a coward''' and I was wrong to ever think you were one of us. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 07:44, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:What Delabonte said. I have seen trolls go to the highest highs and the lowest lows to achieve lulz. And you? You won't even eat a fucking fruit. '''That shows you are completely and totally spineless.''' Getting into the PVCC usually involves proving that you are not a faggot. You haven't. What the hell makes you think you would last 5 minutes in there? We're not spitting in your face, you are spitting in ours. Basically, you want to sit around with your thumb up your ass and be worthless yet still hang out with people who do more than play Rock Band all day. '''Go back to your plastic instruments you sniveling, chicken-shit, coward.''' --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 10:56, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::My 360's dead, remember? No more Rock Band for me. I literally have nothing. I can't get a job because I haven't worked a day in my life, and no one will hire a rookie. And who said I wanted to post there? I'd just lurk moar there. Better than lurking in /cwc/. What are these highest highs and lowest lows? I am pretty sure fruit is not one of them. I will not stop until I am in. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 16:56, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Heh, I'm watching this unfold and I'd just like to comment that I love how you are acting just like Chris. You apparently won't be useless because your shitty game broke. Because your game broke, you have nothing, which is like Chris except his games haven't broken yet (yet he has equally little in real life). You expect people to pity you because you've never contributed to society. You have a sense of entitlement that you think earns you the right to walk through a locked door and just sit on the inside. People get into PVCC because they want to not be useless pieces of shit all day. Lurking is not what they do. God damn. Fuck a fruit basket. (inb4 not a forum/trolling, I have a need to speak my mind that borders on faggotry, I know, but it isn't trolling.) :3 [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 17:10, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::::"Not a forum" is for article talk pages. If only society gave me a chance to contribute. Society gave Chris a chance. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 17:14, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Jesus Christ, you really are a '''sniveling coward'''. More than I even imagined. There's a hole in your story. It says right on your user page <blockquote>"...but I wish I could contribute to the troll efforts.."</blockquote> and now you tell us you just want to sit on the sidelines. I know why there's a change to your tune. '''You're afraid'''. As for highs and lows, it seems you are also an illiterate dipshit. Do you think field agents want to be around Chris? Do you think that people walk around in pickle suits in public for fun? Some of the trolls have suffered severe embarrassment and just plain disgusting situations. You can't even eat an apple so you can "lurk moar" on a fucking forum. That is the '''epitome of cowardice'''. No wonder you have a pathetic life. You are too scared to do anything except '''nothing'''. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 17:18, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

:::::Alex. Listen man, I don't support Delabonte by any means. If I were in your position, then i'd be pissed off too. But speaking as an onlooker of this argument you have gotten yourself into: If Chris has taught us anything then it's to not feed the trolls. With that in mind, stop talking. Stop talking right now, move to a new account to escape the trolling, and spend the rest of your online days lurking quietly and not getting involved in PVCC related arguments. Seriously, you don't wanna fight these guys. You will lose. Remember who owns this site. I'm just sayin' --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:23, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::If I had any logical place to QFT, be damn sure that I would. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 17:33, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Any place to what now? Sorry, i'm not up on my internet speak lately. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:36, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Eh, sorry. Quote for truth. Common on forums when someone agrees with another to such an extent that they can't think of a way to put it better themselves. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 17:38, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh. Thank you. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:39, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

I go for all or nothing. In this case, I've got "very little" - no job, a bad reputation here, but at least the knowledge of Chris. "All" would be being a respected member of the PVCC. "Nothing" would be a life ruined by being trolled.

As I hold out, am I not demonstrating my nerves of steel? --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 17:43, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:Knowledge of Chris is easily accessible and so not worth two shits. You're still trying for pity, which is only going to be met with "Fuck you" round these parts. Let me be the first. Fuck you. Also, at this rate, even if you skip this account and start fresh, your petty attitude and general lack of merit means you can never be respected by PVCC. Lern2internet, then come back in a few months once you get your shit sorted out. Final point: "nerves of steel" got a laugh out of me. You're putting up with a few people on the internet. That isn't hard. You won't even eat a fruit for fuck's sake. Drop the "nerves of steel" shit and start trying to find something you actually DO have. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 17:51, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::You heard me the first time when I said I have nothing. The rotten school system taught me nothing. The more I put up with this, the more I sympathize with Chris. In fact, I might have to find a former friend of mine to Ian Brandon Anderson and take his identity just so I have something. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 18:41, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Alex. Your doing it wrong. This is not the best course of action. I tried saying it nicely and tried to give you some good advice. Let me now try putting it another way:

:::Being a whiney bitch does not get you respect. Shut the fuck up before you dig yourself in any deeper. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:07, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Holding out gives you "nerves of steel"? That's hilarious. You are too scared to eat a fruit. '''Coward'''. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 21:23, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

What can I do, after shutting up and admitting defeat? I can't exactly get a life yet, since as I said, I'm unhireable, and I have two more dreadful years of school left. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 21:46, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:Oh no! You have to go to school! What kind of dirty trolls made you do that?! It's good to see that you're blaming them for the problems in your life, [[100_2178.MOV|just like Chris]]. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 22:07, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::I'm not blaming the trolls for making me go to school. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 22:18, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::: Oh, don't be such a slow-in-the-mind. In a phrase with two potential subjects, the thing smart people do is choose the one that makes sense. Might be a bit of a stretch, when one factors in the fact you have a fear of FRUIT, but still, I expected more. 0/10 try harder. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 22:27, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

seriously, you have shown 0 reasons why you deserve a pvcc account. ZERO. you're never getting an account. ever. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 22:22, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

SHUT UP ALEX! JESUS CHRIST! Alex, I had more sympathy for you when you were just being trolled for being a dumbass. Stop being such a self absorbed little bitch and GTFO! Take my advice and just adopt a new name. I don't give a shit about how horrible your real life is! No-one does! This is the internet! You can sort out any real life shit on you own time. Here though, you actually have a chance to save your reputation by starting a new identity and just never letting anyone know who you are. Your certainly not ever getting respected this way, and Clyde just told you that you have 0 chance of getting into PVCC now. So leave! DO IT FAGGOT! --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 22:31, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Having been dox'd, they'd probably remember my IP address. I will never be able to escape this identity. It's too late for me to turn back. It is my life mission to get into the PVCC and become a respected member.

I don't care if I never get china, I don't care if I have to live on the monthly tugboat.

I'm probably irredeemable at this point. It would take a sex change for me to be able to in good conscience eat that apple. You've pushed me to the point where I start bleeding Honest Content. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 22:45, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

OH DEAR LORD!!!!! Now I know what the White Knights go through when they first realise that Chris can't be helped. This is it! This torturous feeling I get trying to get through to you! A feeling of my very soul being chained down and laughed at as I try to fight against an unmoving brick wall! It's the most horrific thing I have ever felt! '''WHAT ARE YOU?!?!?!?!?!?!''' --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 22:52, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:Having trolled people quite a lot (it's what motivated me to come here, and I still do it regularly) I can tell you that this is about at the stage where he has the "brilliant" and "original" idea where he is backed into a corner so he pretends he was actually trolling us the whole time. He's using Chris terminology to try to lighten the mood. Troll victory GET... Except this time this isn't trolling. Oh, and he's planning to deny this comment. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 22:56, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::Oh, and check his page. He's an emo now too. Figures. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 22:59, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

What am I? Possibly the next Chris. After all, the same dysfunctional school system, Chesterfield County Public Schools, produced the both of us. Anyone who went to school there and turned out normal probably had some kind of deity, good or evil, on their side to give them the brainpower and willpower. I, unfortunately, am an atheist, giving me no resistance against the defective education.

I have seen my purpose, and it is to be a lolcow. Trolls, move your home base from Charlottesville to Richmond. It's the lolcow capital of the world now.

Had you not launched the attack on RuleCWC, this would have never happened. But, had you seen through me when I listed my similarities to Chris on the original version of my user page, you would have found that out sooner. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 23:09, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

:Would you please just shut up and start slitting your wrists already? I've already given you some very good advice. And don't give me that shit about IP tracking. People have beter things to do than hunt you down. Just get a different account and don't start any more shit and your safe. Why is this so hard to comprehend? This would be over already if you didn't keep whining about it. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 23:13, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:If I had to choose between a stereotypical emo useless piece of shit and this guy, the stereotypical emo would win. That places 16Bit on par with furries on my Scale of Respect. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 23:15, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::Funny you should say that. I am a former furry. To be more precise, I was along the lines of Alix Henroil, only with Sally instead of Sonic as the target of my affections. Emphasis on former. Even I don't like furries anymore. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 23:18, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Wow, there really ISN'T anything good about you. Why the fuck is an emo furfag on a troll site to begin with? [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 23:27, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Emo/former furfag, thank you. I ditched the latter to become the former. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 23:32, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Once a fag, always a fag. You cannot grow out of a sickness. Both are attention whore wastes of space, so I always figured it was more of a package deal. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 23:39, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to pop over to /cwc/ for a moment to consult the anons about the best COA. Hold down the fort here for me, would you? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 23:28, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:Can do. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 23:31, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::Waiting for a response now. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 23:45, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

I got some replies. [http://legi0n.789chan.org/cwc/res/48074.html See here] --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:04, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
:Eh, they have a point. I guess we could just wait until he bawwws and then get someone to deliver the b&hammer. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 00:14, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

::I suppose, but as I said in the thread, I don't think you can be banned just for being a whiney emo furfag attention whore. Unless we have any rouge Jerkops out there who might be willing to help? Nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:19, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Remember, I was a decent editor until I cracked. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 00:22, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
*Looking over your edits, you were a shit editor. This makes sense since you don't have access to the PVCC to learn all of the current troll goings on. Oh well, given what a huge coward you are, and that you will never join PVCC as a result, I guess you will always be a shit editor.[[User:Raticus|Raticus]] 20:12, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Shut up. You have lost your right to free speech. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:24, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Alright then. Anon have spoken. They say to just ban the fucker. I doubt I can get him banned, but it's worth a shot. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:38, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

I've asked Clyde to get rid of him. Awaiting response once more. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 01:06, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Listen, I got to go to sleep now. It's about 3AM where I am right now, and i'm getting tired. I'll be back in about 9 hours for further insulting of Alex or celebrations, depending on whether or not he is banned by then. 'Night --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 01:13, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

With regard to his new shit: So basically you're saying that men who eat fruit turn into women...? Well, that certainly explains the rampant epidemic of trannies the world has been so worked up about... wait...
Also, asians aren't necessarily incest, so I dunno what the fuck that's about. You never even finished that sentence. Apple products you count as exceptions because it's convenient. It just shows how lazy you are that you can't even follow your own rules. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 17:32, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
*Copy-paste that onto his talk page. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:54, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
**Crap wording. Reworded on my user page. Fruit doesn't make all men fruits, it's only me who suffers this irrational belief. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 20:39, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
***I am literally crying right now at the thought you could still be alive with how fucked up you are. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:53, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

I feel the same way about you Edward. Stop famewhoring on my page. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 16:10, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:If anyone's "famewhoring", it's you, Delabonte. You made this section so you could rant at a user for attention. If other people join in, then yeah, they get attention out of it, too. However, this is still your attention whoring plan, not his. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 16:15, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Is there anyone on this bloody CWCki these days not afflicted with Autism? --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 16:24, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:Most users actually. Believe me, i'm a minority here. I don't see what your problem is with autistics though. Autism is not an instant retard formula, despite what Chris would lead you to believe. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

All you guys are fucking pathetic. So long, faggots
:Sign your posts, god damn. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 22:35, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:That. Also, good riddance. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 00:19, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

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== User Pages ==
Please refrain from editing other people's user pages. The only times where this is normally deemed acceptable is if content on the page is broken (such as a renamed image or edited template) and needs to be fixed, or if the user has been banned (to add the {{tl|banned}} template). --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 20:08, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Tell him to stop being such a faggot then [[User:Sully|Sully]] 20:29, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
:CWCki is not a place for your to bring up grudges. Take your faggotry elsewhere. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 21:24, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
::Dude, why must you have grudges...if you keep making gruding edits to peoples userpages, you are going to get banned... --[[User:BabyNeko|BabyNeko]] 21:27, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
If this is how rabidly you defend complete fucking fabrications being described as "CWC-isms", then go for it. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 03:40, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not defending anyone. I'm saying we don't need people dragging up shit on the CWCki that involves attacking/harassing/insulting others. You created a new account here and the first edit you make is vandalising another user's talk page - and the only justification you gave was that you feel the user is a faggot. Well I'm sorry, but that crap won't be tolerated around here and is a sure fire way to ensure you get banned. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 10:47, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
the problem with the cwcki is the shitty userbase: see babyneko and 16bitalex [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 03:49, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
:The first one, even I agree with. However, I obviously take offense to the second one. For the last time, all I wanted was to be a good editor here, and I thought that opening the PVCC would mean more public sources for articles here. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 04:55, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
* It's like you don't know when to drop shit or something [[User:Sully|Sully]] 05:00, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::*pvcc hasn't had private info since around year ago dipshit. fridays after five? immediately released. flipnote? posted on cwcki first, by me. snyder stuff? probably discovered by /cwc/ first. Fuck you. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. it's people like that keep the boards private and thankfully it's never going to change. if you want someone to talk to about the boards, it's me. if you really think you have some good raisin as to why you want it public, then pm me in #sonichu. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 05:02, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I think we all need to calm the fuck down and enjoy a delicious apple.

{{#ev:youtube|HohDLvZ4o1M}}--[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 05:08, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Both Clyde and Delabonte are being very insightful here. Stop being so profoundly retarded. Relax and eat some delicious crisp fruits and veggies. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 05:15, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

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[[Image:TROPHY.JPG]]

But I liked my Hex-Box! Music games suck on Wii!

It all started when I was surfing TVTropes one day, and came across a page for Sonichu. I thought "how bad could it get?" While the comic was lousy enough, Chris's life is better than any TV show. Sadly, that TVTropes page is gone now.

One little note: The one time I went to the Pokémon Trading Card League, it was at the Books-A-Million that Chris volunteered at. I know that Chris worked the place at the time I went, because it was before the Neo (Gold and Silver) series cards. I only remembered getting gypped out of my Zapdos in a lousy trade and then losing to a creative player that kept bending the rules, and neither involved Chris.

My project, Chris-Chan: Rock Band : [[User:16BitAlex/Chris-Chan Rock Band]]

Of all of Chris's sweethearts and gal-pals, I think Ivy was the most attractive, going by both the drawings of her and the photographs that were supposedly of her in "Boyfriend". I love red hair. On the flip side, JULAAAY! was by far the least attractive.

Oh, and I was the one who rediscovered the Pastebin containing the Kacey date recently. Thanks to whoever mirrored it.

Of all the miserable overgrown Pikachus and Raichus in Chris's universe, Whispy Sonichu describes me the most. "UH! UH! I'M WHISPERIN'! YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?"

The best sagas were Panda, Ivy, and Liquid. That's why they are in CWC:RB. The weakest was the Surfshack Tito saga.

I'm a miserable gamer. Can't even beat a newer Mario game, had to cheat to get the trophies in Brawl. Though, I did have the patience to IV breed and EV train some Pokemon (necessary for competitive play - this maximizes stats), and even got a Shiny Rayquaza in my Emerald, and could finish Mario Kart Wii and unlock everything without cheating or getting blangry and throwing the Wiimote into the TV.

Had Sonic Adventure never been released, Sonichu's female counterpart would be Acornchu and not Rosechu, making her slightly more tolerable. The homemade Nintendo Power proves that Chris knows Sally exists, unlike most fans who only follow the game storylines. Being a Chris creation, she still wouldn't be good by any means.

<s>I hereby take a CWC-ism and give it a better meaning. '''Blangry''' - being in an autistic rage. The state of autistic rage will also be referred to as '''blanger'''. Normal people, no matter how hard you push them, are incapable of getting blangry.</s> No

==Major similarities==

We both:

* are fans of Sonic, Pokémon, and Guitar Hero
* went to Chesterfield County Public Schools
** failed English in 10th grade only to make honor roll status upon graduation
* have a link to Leonard Bearstein. He gave Chris his name, I had a teddy bear of him when I was younger
* are out of shape, though I'm much less out of shape than he is.
* hate a certain food. Him, [[pickle|pickles]]. Me, apples.
** And...both of our user talk pages on the CWCki have been vandalized with the offending food.

==Major differences==

* Chris struggles to play Guitar Hero on Hard Guitar, ignores Bass, and probably would fail out of even Easy Vocals. (I don't know what difficulty he plays drums on). Meanwhile, I play Expert Guitar/Bass/Drums and Hard Vocals.
* He's on PS3, and his music game of choice is Guitar Hero. I'm on 360, and I prefer Rock Band. Or was, seeing as mine died.
* Like Liquid, I play the real guitar. Unlike Liquid, I play mostly electric.

==Userboxes==

{{Naive}}
{{Americunt}}
{{Observer}}
...but I wish I could contribute to the troll efforts...