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User:Sygerrik

2010-11-07T03:39:41Z

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2010-09-25T16:34:23Z

Sygerrik:

The end. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 00:51, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

"...not even a cheap whore would want your small dick inside her, neither would I."

OH SNAP! --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 01:15, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

Once again proving that the absolute funniest Chris moments are the times he interacts with people outside his family and the trolls, and they gradually get a look at what an incredibly awful person he is. [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 09:34, 25 September 2010 (PDT)

User:Sygerrik

2010-09-24T17:21:53Z

Sygerrik:

This user thinks Userboxes are retarded.

==A Sonichu Fiction==
Be warned, this is incredibly graphic and horrible. Seriously. Don't read this if you harbor hope for the essential goodness of humanity. The explicit scenes are sadly very poorly written because I was just trying to get through them as fast as possible and didn't take the time to pick words carefully or structure paragraphs well. This is my imagining of what it would be like if a Pokemon trainer ever actually went to Cwcville to challenge its Pokemon Gym.

I've spent my entire life wanting to be something else. When I was a child, I couldn't wait to grow up. When I got my first Pokemon, I wanted to show the world what I could do. Today, I would give up everything I've worked for-- everything I've accomplished-- for just a bus ticket out of here.
My name is Kenen, and I'm a Pokemon master.
Well, let me qualify that. I'm almost a Pokemon master. I have seven badges, I've trained my team to the peak of perfection, I've crossed the world more times than I can count. I've even taken down the leader of Team Arctic and saved the world from his nefarious plans. So why am I here, in a filthy Soup Hotel room, drinking Long Island Iced Teas and working up the courage to jump out a window?
That's the trick, isn't it? It's so easy to say "it was inevitable," to assume that my current predicament is the fault of fate or random chance. It's easy to blame it on someone else. But didn't I come here? Didn't I listen to the advice, and choose to compete for the Autism Badge? Didn't I look at that one empty spot in my badge case, and set myself against this task? I did. I did. And while it would be nice to say that I had no idea what I was getting into, I did it fully forewarned about what I would find here. I thought I was prepared. I guess you live and learn.
You learn, anyways.

I arrived in Cwcville, unheralded, on a bus that smelled like a longshoreman's armpit. It's pretty isolated from the rest of Kanto, and I started to realize why the second I stepped off the bus. Normally, the first thing I do when I enter a new town is scope out the Pokemon Center. It's good to know where to go if one of my friends faints, or if I want to access a PC. It's such a reflex that the second I see a red roof, it grabs my attention. That's why the Cwcville skyline seemed so... wrong. I kept looking for something that simply wasn't there, and its absence was like a loose tooth. I kept willing it to be different, unable to let it go, like I was probing an abscess.

I should have left then. That was the first sign.

The town was... strange, to say the least. It was filthier than a Grimer's litter box, for one thing. Discarded food wrappers, bits of paper, cardboard boxes-- it looked like we had arrived just after a party. As it turns out, I was almost right. It was not a comfort.

The town was built around an imposing building that was labeled simply "CWCVILLE MALL." Well, a mall means stores, and stores mean Potions, Revives, Full Heals, Pokeballs, and all of the other tools of my trade. I picked my way across the rubble-strewn green, avoiding any trash I couldn't identify. I'm not sure if Antidotes work on human beings, and I don't mean to find out. I already wanted to get checked into a hotel somewhere, get my badge, and get out of here.

The mall was an imposing brutalist building, two stories high, with two large sweeping wings that put me in mind of a rather severe boarding school. Inside was not much better; it looked like the same cleanup crew who was tasked to take care of the park was in charge here. Most of the stores were shuttered, and those few that remained bore unusual logos: Goodwill, Gamestop, and McDonalds, instead of Poke Mart or Trainer Mart. A sign indicated that upstairs was the "Mayor's Office."
As I climbed the spiral staircase, the second strange thing about the town hit me-- I hadn't seen another living soul so far. Granted, it was late, but I would expect to run into an Officer Jenny in the park, or even a wild Pokemon or two. The town seemed abandoned.
The office occupied yet another storefront, the only occupied store I could see on this floor. Inside, it was a dim waiting room with dingy grey linoleum and a stack of ancient Nintendo Power magazines sitting on a coffee table. Behind a low counter sat a bored-looking woman with stringy blond hair. She looked up as I entered.
Her voice was a monotone, as if reading off a cue card. "Welcome to Cwcville, home of Sonichu. What brings you to our fabulous town?"

She had one of the most penetrating stares I'd ever seen. I've been stared down by cocky gym leaders, desperate Team Arctic Grunts and more than one unhinged Bug Catcher, but this was the first time I had been stared at by someone caught in their own private hell. I've never instructed a Pokemon to attack a human, but I came closest in that office, just as one would shoot a racehorse with a broken leg. She looked like she would welcome it.

Instead, I tried to stay focused on the task at hand. "Good evening, Ms... Amber. I'm here to challenge the Gym Leader. Could you point me in the direction of the Pokemon Center and a place to stay for the night?"

She shuddered, and reached over the counter, key in hand. That monotone again: "This will let you into one of our ten... magnificent Soup Hotels. The Pokemon Center is in the Gym. And... good luck." And was there something there? Something more than rote? I like to think so. I'll probably never know.

So what is a Soup Hotel? Well, if this one is a paragon of the type, they're stinking, rat-infested hovels where bums drag their worthless carcasses after a day of panhandling and smoking crack. Half of the doors are missing, the windows are broken up, and the stench of urine is appalling. I let Metagross out, figuring his immunity to poison would make it easy for him to help clean up, and Milotic tried to pressure-wash a greenish-brown stain out of the walls, but it's an uphill battle.

While they worked to making the room livable, I figured I'd scope out the competition. I didn't even know what type the Cwcville gym was. I found it easily enough, and finding it unlocked, I pushed open the door. Inside, the gym was a fairly standard setup; it was a ring about 150 yards across, bounded by a running track. I didn't see any junior trainers, which wasn't unusual in and of itself. These towns out in the boonies often have just the gym leader, since not enough trainers pass through to warrant hiring on a full staff. Of course, that wasn't the only reason, as I would find out soon enough. My mind wasn't on any of those things, however, as I stopped dead in the door. The sight that greeted me drove any thoughts of Pokemon battling from my mind.

In the center of the floor writhed two figures. It took a moment for me to figure out what I was seeing. An obese man and a strange yellow Pokemon were wrapped in unnatural congress. Time seemed to stop and I perceived the horrifying scene with preternatural clarity. The man was short and pasty, with thick glasses and greasy, thinning hair atop an acne-riddled scalp. He wore a filth-encrusted striped shirt that clung to his frame like a wet dishrag. His rolls of fat bulged and wobbled obscenely as he spasmed back and forth like a man in the throes of electrocution. His pants were around his ankles, and his cock was stuffed deep into the Pokemon in front of him.

The Pokemon was tall and thin, with short yellow fur and a pointed nose. It was vaguely humanoid, and even wore clothes-- or at least shoes. Its eyes were closed and it groaned and squealed like a rusted chain as the man-- who I had to assume was its owner-- roughly sodomized it. He wore a medallion displaying a crude likeness of the Pokemon, which thumped against his jiggling breasts as he thrust in and out, in and out. The suffering Pokemon was bent almost double to accommodate the bent cock of its owner and his protruding stomach fat. As I watched, the man pulled out of his Pokemon partner with a wet slurping sound, and the Pokemon spun around, grabbing the twisted member and plunging it into its mouth. Its tongue lapped gently around the razor-burned scrotum, and I saw with horror that the fur around its mouth was matted and clumped with dried semen.

I could feel the bile rising in my throat, but I was rooted to the spot and unable to act. The Pokemon stood up and leaned forward, and some kind of pouch on its stomach slid open. A thin, almost prehensile tube swung out and began to inflate, and I realized with horror that it was the Pokemon's genitals. The fat man leaned forward with a sick grin of anticipation on his face and the Pokemon swiftly mounted him, swinging forward and plunging its turgid member in between its master's quivering butt-cheeks. It pulled nearly entirely out, exposing its feces-covered penis to the air, then stuck it all the way back in, eliciting a howl of ecstasy from the convulsing man. Particles of shit exploded outward from the junction between them as his ass-cheeks jiggled and jumped. Their bodies slapped together with a sound like a wet steak being thrown against a brick wall, and the Pokemon stiffened as orgasm overtook it. Thick, ropey jets of gluey grey shot out of the tip of its penis, which the fat man eagerly lapped up and licked from his fingers. I could hold my revulsion no longer, and felt my knees give out as my lunch splashed all over the concrete floor. The sound attracted the notice of both lovers, and I scrambled backwards madly, nearly braining myself on the doorframe in my haste to escape.

END OF PART 1

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2010-09-23T23:20:52Z

Sygerrik:

I wonder when this was made. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 15:40, 23 September 2010 (PDT)

Does anyone have any idea what the Sonee in the background is saying? I can't make it out. [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 16:20, 23 September 2010 (PDT)

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MySpace messages

2010-09-19T16:20:15Z

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{{Orphaned}}

The account revealed two streams of correspondences with two young ladies, Jalena and Lindsay, both women from the Charlottesville area. What follows is their correspondences via '''[[MySpace]]'''.

===Jalena===

{{quotebox|
(August 9, 2005) CWC: Hello, Jalena. I've noticed that you have recently joined my group. I would like to
thank you for contributing your time.

I wanted to ask you, just out of curiosity, would you be interested in a guy like me? Please reply
as soon as possible with a "yes" or "no," and give a detailed explanation why if "no."

Thank you again for your time.

C. Chan.
}}
 
{{quoteboxred|
(August 13, 2005) Jalena: I'm not sure since I don't know you that well but I guess I would,just out
of curiosity how did you find my profile and why you wanted to become friends?
}}
 
{{quotebox|
CWC: I suggest that you take your time while thinking about your answer. You may wish to read
over my profile again. But most importantly, I feel that I need to know if you're serious with
your answer (if it is "yes); I do not want to feel that I was to fall victim to a prank. That
would hurt.

Thank you.
}}
 
{{quoteboxred|
Jalena: I am serious with my answer. I would never play a prank like that on anyone ;)!
}}
 
{{quotebox|
(August 11, 2005) CWC: Hey, Hey. I've just updated my profile with information of where I'll be as of
August 29, 2005.

Also, my car is out of the shop, and it looks good as new.

And for a reminder...

<nowiki>*</nowiki>Only girls/ladies may read/respond to this bulliten.*

If you are interested in me, Christian Chandler (Please check out my profile before responding), please
repost this bulliten and type in "I think you're (insert your positive adjective)" for the subject. And
be sure to send me a message later, please.

If you are not interested in me, please repost this bulliten and type in "Sorry, I'm not interested" for
the subject.

Also, please note that you should be a girl/lady of at least the underlined qualities listed below; all
the other qualities are optional.

18-23-years old, lives in, or around, the Charlottesville or Ruckersville areas, has a happy, positive
personality, young at heart, very pretty, Average income, smoke-free, non-alcholoic, datable (not a Morman),
white and does not already have a Boyfriend.
}}
 
{{quoteboxred|
Jalena: hey! I wanted to know what you thought of my profile and my pics?
}}
 
{{quotebox|
(August 13, 2005) CWC: Hey, Jannea. Thank you for replying. In response to your question about how I found your
profile, I "Browsed" for 18-23-year old "Single" women within 20 miles of my zip code, and your profile came
up as one out of over 30 results. I chose you as a friend, because as you may have read in my profile,
blog and my group info, I have been in the market for a [[Boyfriend-Free Girl]] to make into a [[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up|girlfriend from the ground-up]] for over two years now. When choosing my friends, I carefully read their profiles verbatem
first. When reading your profile, I found that you were a very good person, you are caring when it comes
to friends and family, I was quite astounded by your interests in physical activities and royalty, and I
felt that you were a sweet (having a sweet personality and wit) choice for a friend. Also, when I saw you
in your photo (you could use at least one photo of just yourself in your profile), I thought that you were
cute the way you were hugging Becky. That was a fun combination of zebra stripes and jeans on you BTW.

If you are interested in getting to know me better, I'll be happy to treat you for a soda sometime. And so you
know, you are a very interesting person yourself. 8)

Have a great day (or night);

Chris Chan.
}}
 
{{quoteboxred|
(August 14, 2005) Jalena: aww thanks you are sweet too!
}}
 
{{quotebox|
CWC: So, uh... would you like to meet me for a soda soon?

I can meet you any day of the week, any time of that day, I'll let you decide. But I'd like to meet you at a
McDonalds in CVille (maybe the one across from the Fashion Square mall), or you could meet me after the Pokemon
League, Friday night (check my profile for times and where it is).

8)

Chris.
}}
 
{{quoteboxred|
(August 21, 2005) Jalena: Sorry it took so long, I'm so busy!!

Hey! Look I'm really sorry but I only talked to you and joined your group because I felt really bad for you.....
}}
 
{{quotebox|
CWC: I see...

So, does that mean that you're not interested in me, that you're not in the market for a boyfriend
or something like that? Please, don't tell me that you found someone else to be your siginificant other!
}}
 
{{quotebox|
(August 22, 2005) CWC: Ummm...

Jalena, I appologize for how I replied to your latest message; I was feeling a bit distraught.

Let me veer the subject a bit; I've read that you were very interested in royalty. My mother is a decendant
from [[Anne Boleyn|Anne Bolyn]] (the woman who married King Henry VIII, and gave birth to Queen Elizabeth). Anne had a blood
link to the Westons who led the migration to America from England on the "Mayflower." So my mother is a Weston;
me too, which is why my middle name is Weston.

Also, I am 1/16 [[Cherokee]] (which I've picked up from my father).

I just felt like bringing that up.

I can tell you more about that if you would allow me to meet you for a soda sometime. I can meet you any day of
the week, but considering my upcoming semester schedule, I can meet you in the early afternoon.

I understand and appreciate your sympathy, but I'd really would like to get to know you better. I find you very
interesting in what I've read about you so far.

Please reply.

Chris Chan
}}
 
{{quoteboxred|
(August 25, 2005) Jalena: sorry ur just sorrta desperate.......

Jalena: no that's ok...
}}

===Lindsay===
[[Image:Lindsaykane.jpg|thumb|right|Lindsay Kaye<ref>[http://www.myspace.com/lindsaykaye Linday's Myspace]]</ref> - the girl who lead on Chris. Like they say, beggars can't be choosers.]]

{{quoteboxred|
(August 25, 2005) Lindsay: Hey Chris...

I see you live in Virginia.. Me too! So why did you sendme a friend request? Just curious.. hope to
talk to you again soon...

~Lindsay Kaye~
}}

{{quotebox|
(August 26, 2005) CWC: Hey, Lindsay. First off, [[Anna|a friend]] of mine started the "Chris" Profile for me,
just as an example of how I could improve my Prime Profile, "SonichuCWC." She invited you as a friend,
because she thought you were cool. And after reading your profile, I can more than agree with her.

My life has been like a roller coaster as well; mostly [[homo|going down]]. You can read how down it was in my
"SonichuCWC" Profile.

Have a great day.

Chris Chan
}}

{{quoteboxred|
(August 27, 2005) Lindsay: Chris,

Lately my rollercoster has been more down than up but I do see little glimmers of hope here and there.
Don't get me wrong though, I don't walk around all mopey and depressed. I understand that life throws
you a curveball every once and a while that can make all of the most important things in your life seem
so unimportant. So for now, I am just taking it one day at a time. It seems to be working out all right!
<nowiki>;-)</nowiki>

I read on your profile that you go to [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]]. I go there as well. I am hoping to eventually get to [[University of Virginia|UVa]], but
that will take some time I'm sure. Actually, I just joined the UVa Drumline which has been one of those
little glimmers of hope that I get from time to time.

Hope to talk again soon.

~Lindsay Kaye
}}

{{quotebox|
(August 28, 2005) CWC: That's good for you that you've joined the UVA Drumline; at least you have your
foot in the door. I see that you're majoring in Business Administration. I'm working towards a [[CADD|Computer
Aided Drafting and Design]] degree. What kind of job do you hope to get with your major? My father has the
idea of what job I can get with my degree, but I'm not sure if that's the direction I'd like to go.

Although I do like to work with [[computers]], and I play video games a lot. [[CWCville|I've also built a city out of Lego
pieces]].

Anyway, if you'd like to meet me personally in the PVCC Lounge, before one of my classes, I could share some
of my art, and I'd be interested in looking at some of your marvelous photographs.

Hope to see you at PVCC.

Have a great day,

Chris Chan.
}}

{{quoteboxred|
Lindsay: Dear Chris,

I would love to show you my pictures... Don't have too many new pics in my portfolio, but i could show you what
I have! I would also love to see some of your Artwork! I am very into art, and in fact I hope to one day be a fine
art photographer rather than commercial or advertising. What kind of art do you do? And when do you have classes?
I would love to meet you and talk face to face rather than through a keyboard and monitor. let me know.. nice
chatting...

~ Lindsay Kaye
}}

{{quotebox|
CWC: Hey, Lindsay. As for when you can meet me. You can catch me in the lounge less than an hour before 4:15 PM
on Mondays and Wednesdays, before 6:00 PM on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Also, I have a tennis Class Saturdays by the
Dickenson Building 8 AM-11:15 AM. And you can also catch me at the [[Pokemon League]] and [[Yu-Gi-Oh]] Tournament at the
game and hobby place (check under interests for the times and dates).

You can see some of my art on my website at http://sonichuchandler.tripod.com/cwcson.htm.

I will look forward to meeting you, sharing art/photos and conversing with you.

See You Soon,

Chris Chan
}}

{{quotebox|
(August 29, 2005) CWC: My Thursday class is at the Dickenson Building too. So that's in main Mon-Wed, in/around
Dickenson Thursday and Saturday. Also, make that about half an hour to an hour before when my class starts.

Hope to meet you soon,

Chris Chan.
}}

{{quotebox|
(August 31, 2005) CWC: Have you seen me in the PVCC lobby lately? I haven't seen you, and I'd like to meet you.
I'll have some of my artwork on me. Please let me know when you will be there.

Hope to meet you soon,

Chris Chan
}}

{{quoteboxred|
Lindsay: Hey Chris,
No I haven't seen you there. I have my classes from 8 am until about 2:30 on Tuesdays and Thursdays, and then
I have drumline at 5:30. So I think I will have to work out a time to meet up with you. During game weeks, like
this one, I have practice every night except for Wednesday. Today, I had to work on my only day off! lol. But I
wanted you to know all this because I didn't want you to think that I was avoiding you or anything. Cause that
is not the case. Maybe we could just meet up sometime when we are both free. I don't know, but we will have to
work it out because I would like to meet you also. Let me know.

~Lindsay Kaye
}}

{{quotebox|
(September 1, 2005) CWC: Hey, Lindsay. You could meet me after my Pokemon League Friday evening (about 7 PM), or
after the Yu-Gi-Oh Tournament Saturday afternoon (about 1-2 PM), both of which are at the [[The GAMe PLACe|Comic Game and Hobby Place]]
(Next to the C-Ville Ice Park).

Please let me know as soon as possible if you can meet me at either time.

By the way, [[fail|you have pretty brown eyes]]. ;8)

Chris Chan
}}

{{quoteboxred|
Thank you Chris! [[lies|That is so sweet!]]

Sadly i have to report neither time is good for me. Both Friday and Saturday I have Band! Saturday is our first game!
Go hoos! But... Sunday I work 1-4 and then I am free... What are you up to?
 let me know..
 ~Lindsay Kaye
}}

{{quotebox|
CWC: I have an empty plate on Sundays. 8) I could meet you at the [[McDonald's|McDonalds]] across from [[Fashion Square Mall|Fashion Square]] at about 4:30
(or sooner), or you may pick a location where I can meet you. Either way, I'll vouch for lunch (or just a drink), and
I'll bring my [[Scrapbook of Fail|artwork]]. And we could just have a friendly chat to get to know each other better. 8)

Please let me know what you'd like to do.

Chris Chan.
}}

{{quotebox|
(September 3, 2005) CWC:I need to know if we are on for meeting each other tomorrow at the McDonalds across from Fashion
Square at about 4:30.

Please reply.

Hope to see you then,

Chris Chan.
}}

{{quoteboxred|
(September 4, 2005) Lindsay: hey Chris!

Just got your message and I don't think I can! I wish I would have gotten it yesterday! My cousin is having a party down
at Lake Monticello, and I told her I would go. I'm sorry! I really would like to meet you! What is your scheadule like
this week? If you tell me exactly what it is like, I will pick a day and keep it reserved! I'm sorry again Chris! Hope
to talk to you again soon!

Sincerely,
 Lindsay Kaye
}}

{{quotebox|
CWC: Hey, Lindsay. I hope you had a good time at your cousin's party.

As for my schedule, I'll have a FREE DAY tomorrow, Sept. 5.

I have my [[Chris and the Law|court date]] on Tuesday morning for what happened at [[Target]] in July (I have a Blog entry that explains what
happened then), and depending on how it goes, I may or may not make it to my class at PVCC at 6:15.

I have my 4:15 PM class at PVCC on Wednesday.

Thursday, I'll be at Golden Corral with my family from 3:30-4:45, then I have to go to my PVCC class at 6:00.

Then Friday, I go to my Pokemon League from 5:00-7:00 (I suggested earlier that we could meet during or after that).

And Saturday I have tennis from 9:00-11:15 AM, then the Yu-Gi-Oh Tournament from 11:45-1 or 2:00 PM.

That's it in a nutshell (though to me it felt like a bit of a headache). Just let me know which day you pick and where
you'd like to meet.

Hope to chat with you I-2-I soon. 8)

Best Wishes,
 Chris Chan.
}}

{{quoteboxred|
(September 5, 2005) Lindsay: Hey Christian...
Wow! I read your blog! Thats terrible! I hope all goes well on tuesday, not only because I think it is wrong what they
did to you, but because I would like to meet you on Wednesday! Maybe meet for lunch somewhere before you have to go to
class. And then we can share artwork.. you let me know if that is good for you assuming all goes well on Tuesday! talk
to you soon...

~Lindsay Kaye
}}

{{quotebox|
CWC: Lindsay, thank you for your praise for the better on my behalf; it made me feel better. 8) Assuming all goes well,
I'll meet you at the previously mentioned McDonalds at about 2:00 PM on Wednesday.

Send me a reply to let me know if this works for you; it would work for me. I'll send a following message Tuesday evening
that things went well in court.

If things don't go well in court, I may or may not send a following message.

But my family and I are praying that it will go well. But in a mature sense, this is a turning point that I had expected
to be completed at an earlier date, then I learned that I would have to wait longer. So I've been looking forward to it,
for it would be the pointer to either the end, or the continuation, of my 2-Year old [[Love Quest]]. Then again, that's just
me. Thank you for listening to me about my turn of events.

I do hope to meet you. In the meantime, it's nice to know that you hope to meet me as well. :8)

Best Wishes,

Chris Chan.
}}

{{quoteboxred|
Lindsay: that sounds good.. I'll bring my portfolio. good luck on tuesday..
 ~Lindsay Kaye
}}

{{quoteboxred|
(September 6, 2005) Lindsay: Hey,

I know you have court today, but I haven't heard back from you about Tomorrow... So I am assuming no?
~Lindsay Kaye
}}

{{quotebox|
CWC: Lindsay, I've just got out of the court room. It was postponed for a month due to absence of my lawer.

But YES, I will be able to meet you tomorrow. Please reply ASAP to let me know that you got this message.

See you tomorrow at McDonalds across from Fashion Square at 2:00 PM.

Chris Chan
}}

{{quoteboxred|
(September 7, 2005) Lindsay: Hey Christian...

So it is 2:37 right now, and I just got your messages. I don't know whats going on. We keep just missing our
oppurtunities to meet. So I don't know what to do.. I am going to Florida for the weekend so maybe we can work
something out for when I get back. I understand if you feel it's not a good idea. Let me know.. I apologize for
today.

~Lindsay Kaye
}}

{{quotebox|
CWC: I wasn't sure if you had got the message, but I did go to the McDonalds anyway. I'm sorry for the mix-up.
We can try again. I'm going to be at PVCC tomorrow by about 2-2:30, because I have a meeting with Marshal P. Stoll
at 3:00. I could meet you in the lounge then.

Please reply.

Hope to meet you soon,

Chris Chan
}}

{{quotebox|
(September 8, 2005) CWC: Hey, Lindsay. You may disregard that last message, because I didn't get there till after
2:30 anyway.

We can talk about trying to meet again after you get back from your weekend trip to Flordia.

I hope you have a good time. ;8)

Hope to hear from you soon,

Chris Chan.
}}

{{quotebox|
(September 12, 2005) CWC: "How was your trip?" I hope you had a good time in Florida, because I hear that it's
usually nice down there.

By the way, it turns out that I didn't need one of my classes, so I dropped it; I no longer have a class on Thursdays.
So I'm free that day.

We could meet sometime between your class and Drumline practice. I could meet you at the McDonalds in Barracks Road
Shopping Center, or at the [[Alderman Library]]. Just let me know which would be better for you, and what time is best.

Please reply. Talk to ya again soon.

Chris Chan.
}}

{{quotebox|
(September 14, 2005) CWC: "Hey." Have you received the message I sent you? Please reply.

Chris Chan
}}

{{quotebox|
(September 15, 2005) CWC: Have you been too busy to reply and set up the meeting time and date? I would have felt
better if I had received a reply to the message I sent you informing me that you were busy or whatever.

I've checked my messages early this afternoon, and it made me feel sad that since you didn't reply to my messgae that
I had to assume "No" on this attempt for us to meet, chat and share artworks.

I am still interested in meeting you personally, but I'm getting the feeling that you may have lost interest in meeting
me (from not replying to my messages). So, I'd like to know if you still want to meet me or not.

I feel that I'm putting the most effort in this, and I'm not getting anything back.

I can blame that stupid [[Jerkop]] for that darn court date that really messed our first chance. And I can understand that
your PVCC classes and UVA Drumline are keeping you in line. But that court date is behind me, and I'm letting you pick
the meeting date, time and place.

I don't know. I just feel miserable from not having met you yet after all that.

Please reply ASAP.

Christian Chandler.
}}

{{quoteboxred|
(September 16, 2005) Lindsay: Christian,

I have been extremely busy and there have been some things going on in my life that have affected our meeting! I
apologize for not being able to meet you so far. Drumline and school and work do keep me very busy. I also have a very
very close friend who has just gotten home from iraq, and my boss at my job in florida just passed away so now has not
been a very good time for me. I'm sorry.

Lindsay Kaye
}}

{{quotebox|
(September 17, 2005) CWC: Oh my. I'm sorry for your loss and stress. And I also apologize if I have sounded emotionally
offensive in my previous message.

As you know, my life hasn't been a "Bowl Full of Cherries" either; I won't go into that now.

Last I heard, Iraq wasn't in much shape, but I'll bet that your friend learned a great deal while he/she was there. And
I sense that you must have been very happy to see your friend again. I know I would be too if he/she was my friend. 8)

So, was your boss a good person? I sense that you may have been at least somewhat close to him/her. I hope that you get
a better, or equally-good, boss.

So, what is your job? I can guess right-off the bat that you may have been a photographer (since you love to take
photographs); my second guess, I would say, would be a salesperson. If I was wrong, well what do I know about you?

I've learned some nices things about you, and I feel that you are a pretty, caring, one-of-a-kind gal. 8)

If you get an open spot in the future for our meeting, just let me know the date, time and location; I'll wait as long
as necessary.

Best wishes to you and yours,

Chris Chan.
}}

{{quoteboxred|
(October 5, 2005) Lindsay: Hey

Were you in the library today around 3ish? If you were then I think I saw you reading. If not, There is someone at pvcc
who looks exactly like you! Do you have a twin? lol.. later

Lindsay Kaye
}}

{{quotebox|
CWC: No, I was not in the library on that day, and I do not have a twin. It strikes me as wierd that someone else could
be mistaken as me.

Let me know if you find some free time to meet me at a McDonalds to share artworks.

Peace.

Chris Chan.
}}

==Sauces==
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[[Category:Historical Documents]]

Parody

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{{quote|*Any names, or persons, illustrated in any of the [[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu Comics]], except that of [[Christian Weston Chandler]], that may seem similar to anyone in real life, are purely coincidental, or otherwise parodic.* |Chris's disclaimer appearing below the cover to ''[[Sonichu 8]]''<ref>[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/sonichu/SchuComic9TVY7.htm Sonichu 8 cover]</ref>}}

{{quote|*Also, [[Jason Kendrick Howell]] and his 17-year old girlfriend, Kathleen Nicole Wallace in this comic are BASED on the REAL PEOPLE, and they both HAVE actually done things together that would be classified as Illegal in the [[USA]]; Send the [[Jerkops|police]] on them in Clarksville, Tennesse.*|Chris, contradicting his own disclaimer}}

[[Image:Notthebathroom.jpg|thumb|Chris attempts parody in the infamous [[Sonichu_7#The_Family_Guy_.22Skitch.22|''Family Guy'' "skitch"]]]]

'''Parody''' is defined as a literary or musical work in which the style of the author or work is closely imitated for comic effect or in ridicule. The concept dates back to Ancient Greek literature, as Hegemon of Thasos was credited with being the first guy to change the words of poems to make them funny.

In a broader sense, parodies need not be humorous as long as they provide some sort of commentary on the original work. In that sense, a parody can be considered a sort of critical analysis of the original work.

For [[Christian Weston Chandler]], the word "parody" is basically a way to secure copyrights for other people's ideas.<ref>[[IRC (20 January 2009)]], 21:30</ref> You see, parody falls under "fair use" in copyright law, so if Sonichu is a ''parody'' of ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' and ''[[Pokémon]]'', then it's perfectly legal for Chris to turn Sonichu into a multimedia empire.

==Why ''Sonichu'' is not a parody==

[[Image:JargonPage.jpg|thumb|If you keep telling a lie often enough...]]
[[Image:RCParodic.png|thumb|Let me guess: the ripped-off warning is a ''parody'' too]]

The issue of whether or not Sonichu meets the criteria for fair use is academic. As it stands, Chris is simply one of thousands of lame Sonic fans trying to make a name for himself by "creating" shitty Sonic recolors. For all of Chris's big dreams of developing Sonichu games, cartoons, and merchandise, he can barely muster the motivation to produce two issues of the comic book each year, and those aren't even that hard to do. Even if some miracle enabled him to land a deal to make Sonichu into something profitable, he'd screw it up long before the project would even attract the attention of [[Nintendo]] and Sega's lawyers. If he can't hold down a job at [[Wendy's]], it doesn't really matter how Sonichu would stand up in a hypothetical courtroom. Chris put a cease and desist on his own life decades ago.

Still, the question remains: is Sonichu a parody? If humor is to be chief criterion, then the answer is obviously no. Nearly all of the humor to be found in the series is purely unintentional by the author. If you put one of those doggy Halloween costumes of Yoda on a dog, he looks funny. That doesn't mean the dog is doing a parody of ''Star Wars''.

A good example of this principle in action is the infamous "[[Sammy|Family Guy skitch]]" of [[Sonichu 7|Sonichu #7]]. At first blush, this could be interpreted as a sardonic imitation of ''[[Family Guy]]''-style humor, with Chris initiating a needless flashback to a joke that depends on slapstick and nostalgia references. The problem is that Chris isn't that clever, as demonstrated by the way he shamelessly offers the gag to Seth McFarlane to use in the show itself, indicating that Chris believes his imitation is tantamount to the genuine article.

In terms of commentary on the original work, ''Sonichu'' is virtually devoid of this. Early issues would poke fun at ''Sonic'' and ''Pokémon'' characters, but this wasn't particularly insightful. Indeed, characters like [[Team Rocket]] and [[Doctor Robotnik]] are often mocked in the original works, so Chris was most likely just repeating what he'd seen. In [[Sonichu 1|''Sonichu '' #1]], [[Amy Rose]] meets [[Rosechu]], but the scene is little more than a dry comparison of the two, who wind up being more alike than different.

In the United States, legally valid parodies are expected to demonstrate reasonable usage with regard to "the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole"<ref>http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#107</ref> in order for the derivative work to fall under fair use. In other words, the hypothetical defendant should be able to show that they have not "taken any more of the original work than was necessary to achieve the purpose for which the material was copied from the original work."<ref>http://www.publaw.com/parody.html</ref> The degree to which this must be shown differs from case to case but since ''Sonichu'' is lacking as a humorous or critical piece as detailed above, there would likely be a heavier onus on its creator to demonstrate this tenet. Chris would be very hard pressed to do so; aside from using characters with names and appearances mostly or completely lifted from other works, the main storylines themselves go beyond following the typical cartoonish, good vs. evil mold of the original materials and employ storylines that full-on mirror their plots, such as the [[Sonichu Balls|Quest for the Sonichu Balls]] (''Sonic the Hedgehog''/''Dragon Ball'') or the plight of [[Zelina Rosechu|Zelina]] (''Zelda II: The Adventure of Link''). In fact, the main difficulty in proving this point against Chris would be delineating the numerous works he has used and where. Unfortunately for him, [[Things Chris has ripped off|this has been done]].

Perhaps by sheer coincidence, ''Sonichu'' has evolved into a shell of what a true ''Sonic''/''Pokémon'' parody could be. Like the ''Sonic'' characters, the cast is composed of cutesy-looking animals who have gradually sloughed off the veneer of innocent video game mascots to engage in angsty dialogue and crude romantic entanglements. And, like ''Pokémon'', the [[Sonichus]] and [[Rosechus]] are super-powered animals who battle in the service of a bossy, whiny human. In short, by combining the two franchises, Chris has wound up depicting a darker, more infantile reflection of each. The problem is that he fails to realize this, and so the actual commentary on ''Sonic'' and ''Pokémon'' is never properly realized. During an [[IRC (20 January 2009)|IRC Chat]] with [[Clyde Cash]] and [[BILLY MAYS]], Chris spends an inordinate amount of time trying to explain how Sonichu is a Parody of Sonic (though he entirely forgets [[Pikachu]]), but all he does is list their similarities. Even after the definition of "parody" is spelled out to him he completely [[fail]]s to find any element of Sonichu that is a legitimate parody of Sonic: he continues to insist that ''Sonichu'' is a parody because he's fast, but also has electricity powers. In his [[The Sonichu Chronicles|PowerPoint presentation]], Chris even describes Sonichu's story as "an Untold Chapter of one story, so it is additional, yet not a major plot change," which plants it quite firmly in the territory of "derivative work."

The irony is that by refusing to embrace Sonichu as a derivative, one-dimensional Sonic recolor, Chris fails to live up to his assertion that Sonichu is a parody. But Chris can't have it both ways. It's either original, or a parody. By his logic, "Weird Al" Yankovic should be going around proclaiming himself the ONE TRUE CREATOR of "Eat It", as though the song holds the same station in pop music history as the original "Beat It".

The closest ''Sonichu'' ever comes to true parody is in its satirical depiction of [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] in [[Sonichu 8|#8]]. Instead of simply portraying ED as a website, Chris represents it as some [[4-cent_garbage.com|sort of business]], housed in a physical building, with its users working there as some sort of staff, churning out slanderous content as an end unto itself. For once, Chris actually has a point to make: that ED is a bunch of mean-spirited people who waste their lives hurting people. This message is ham-fisted, but at least it's not the usual subtext like "I think hedgehogs are way past cool!" and "I'd sure like to have sex!" Then again, given his belief that "[[lulz]]" is an acronym for "laughs under lucricities," it's quite possible that he literally [[Chris_and_reality|believes ED ''is'' a business]].

Further demonstrating Chris' ignorance of the true nature of parody is his belligerence towards [[Trolls|artists]] who have imitated his work. In particular, Chris has vehemently denounced [[Jimmy Hill]] for claiming credit for Sonichu and merchandising the character in Europe as an openly homosexual cartoon character. What Chris can't (or won't) understand is that Mr. Hill's use of Sonichu is exactly what a parody is supposed to be, since his version deliberately alters Sonichu to humorous effect. In a court battle, the law is more likely to favor the work of trolls as parody, though there's some question of what happens when you parody something that's already stolen.

But even if Chris understood fully what parody means, it likely wouldn't matter. "Parody" is simply a word Chris uses as one of many excuses he comes up with to do whatever he wants. When he tried to strike a deal with [[Vivian]] to get a cut of her [[Audiobook]] money, he said he was doing so despite not being happy that her work was "parodic." While the Audiobooks straight-up mock Chris and his comic rather than act as parodies, to him it's not okay for him to be subject of "parody," but it's okay for him to make "parodies" of works that others create. So it seems that he understands on a basic level that a parody is intended to make fun of something, but he changes the meaning of the word to suit his needs when he's called out on how Sonichu is plagiarism.

==''Sonichu'' as self-parody==

On the other hand, Chris's narcissism makes him a virtuoso at self-parody, so if he ever sues himself, he's covered.

When Chris takes [[Patti-Chan]] to [[CWCville]], he leads her through a portal in his bedroom. Upon seeing the disheveled state of his quarters, Patti remarks that it's no wonder Chris needs a woman in his life.

By [[Sonichu 6|''Sonichu'' #6]], Chris believed he had completed his Love Quest by befriending [[Megan Schroeder]], and eventually mocked his former bitterness over not having a girlfriend. When the heroes discuss the plight of [[Crystal Weston Chandler (character)|Crystal]] the subject soon turns to how jealous men can be, and [[Megagi]] wryly echoes Chris's statement that he despised nearly all the men on Earth, simply because he couldn't get a girlfriend. A hilarious inside joke, if you're Chris.

In [[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]] Chris leads a squad into the year 1996, where he relives the moment when he created [[Bionic the Hedgehog]]. As lockers played a role in his inspiration, Chris extended the scene to include a gag lifted directly from an episode of ''Beavis and Butt-head'', where the two slam a locker door over and over for fun.

In [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]], Sonichu discovers [[Rule 34]] pictures on 4-cent_garbage.com, and expresses amazement that he and his friends were photographed in such intimate moments. Rosechu pointedly informs him that the images are drawings, even though they look "lifelike" to Sonichu, because Chris himself drew the sex scenes on [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] (some of which he recycled in ''Sonichu'' #8).

Most recently, the Spring Break feature in #8 features [[Black Sonichu]] getting fooled into having unprotected sex with a [[Silvana|trannie]], which most analysts agree is a reference to Chris's own experiences getting tricked by various [[Blanca|trolls posing as would-be girlfriends]]. Intentionally or not, Chris does a pretty good job projecting his own hormone-fueled foolishness onto Blake.

==Chris does not understand the concept of parody==

Despite his adamant declarations that he fully understands parody, Chris has repeatedly proven himself incapable of recognizing it in the face of the genuine article. The Jimmy Hill arc was a perfect example of what a parody is: taking what he had made canon and turning it around as commentary. Chris immediately screamed copyright and went to great lengths to shut the website down (SPOILER ALERT: It's still up and doing quite well).

More recently, as revealed in the [[Adult Swim posts]], he makes the same error. He posts a rant admonishing [[Adult Swim|''Robot Chicken'']], a show centered around parody, that the canon Autobots wouldn't act the way they were portrayed, which was exactly the point. He goes on to give them a suggestion for a skit using [[Random Access Humor]], which thankfully was ignored. ''Robot Chicken'' actually received a lot of such complaints, and made another sketch about the Go-Bots acting out of character, with the addition of a [[speech impediment|whiny]], [[Pedo-Glasses|bespectacled]], [[obesity|overweight]] fanboy living with his parents interjecting with complaints about inaccuracies... ''Coincidence!!??''... probably. It's less likely that they would reference Chris himself as it is that Chris is such a perfect example of everything wrong with cartoon-obsessed adults.

==Hypocrisy==

While Chris is quick to justify the existence of his abomination by claiming "parody," he also uses the term as an attack on parodies of his own work, particularly [[Asperchu]]. Note that he doesn't just use the term [[CWC-ism|"slanderous mockeries"]] or "troll works": he specifically describes them as parodies, using the term as though it were an insult and justification for his rage. Funnily enough, this is the only thing he has ever accurately described as a parody, whereas his own comics are at best fan fiction and at worst theft of intellectual property.

==See also==

*[[Chris and the Law]]
*[[Sonichu finale]], an actual parody of ''Sonichu''

==Sauces==

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==Links to actual parodies==

*[http://sonichu.110mb.com/ The Officiarr and Originarr Sonichu Site from Jimmy Hirr]
*[http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=0A4E27D42C44EE9B Sonichu: The Animated Series]
*[http://sonichufinale.canalblog.com/ Sonichu Finale by Mr. Harry D.http://sonichufinale.canalblog.com/]
*[http://www.youtube.com/user/timmys1984 Sonichu animated promos by Timmys1984 http://www.youtube.com/user/timmys1984]
*[http://sonichu.thecomicseries.com/ Sonichu is Dead]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8xUfVy2POk "The Last Sonichu" by Vivtheg]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jmOoAWWyhU "The Real Adventures of Sonichu" by Spencer Price]
*[http://www.sonichuttahcs.deviantart.com/ 'Sonichu: The TRUE and HONEST Comic Series' on DeviantART]

{{CWC-isms}}

[[Category: CWC-isms]]

Talk:Chris and race

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Sygerrik: /* Add in Chris' black face song? */

Good work, Tyranogre! I'll try to contribute to the page, soon, too --[[User:GokuGetEm|GokuGetEm]] 08:53, 31 December 2009 (CET)

Nice start. Easily can be added on to and everything. Just a thought, though: should we include others he's shown hate towards? Y'know, like the homos and anyone with asperger's/low-function autism/"anything that tries to take Chris's spotlight"? --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 08:55, 31 December 2009 (CET)
* If we do that, we might as well call this page "Chris and discrimination" or "Chris and tolerance" or something. Personally I'd like to have a quick list of all the groups he's offensive to in one place. [[User:SnorlaXBOX|SnorlaXBOX]] 08:59, 31 December 2009 (CET)
** Actually, I'm surprised we haven't done just that! Chris hasn't shown discrimination towards just one group, he's shown it to everyone everywhere! I don't think we should delete this, just rename it into "Chris and discrimination", like you said!--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 09:05, 31 December 2009 (CET)
*** Sure, let's rename it. Of course, first we need to convince Champ to remove the deletion tag... [[User:Tyranogre|Tyranogre]] 09:07, 31 December 2009 (CET)

== Why I'm nominating it for deletion ==

I can see ''some'' potential here but not much. Chris's dislike of blacks is just something trolls like to exaggerate - at best, Chris seems really uncomfortable around black people in the same way an upper class person would lock the car doors while going through the black neighborhood. It's not really racist, per say, that Chris doesn't like black chicks but I think the problem is that 1) he's not really in the position to be fussy about women, given who he is and 2) he's made it seem like that he would rather keep being a virgin than do a black girl (perhaps this question could be posed in the mailbag or the Common Questions). But he's not an outright racist. It's fun to suggest this to Chris because it irritates him, but really it's misleading to suggest he's some sort of closet KKK member. Bob on the other hand actually made a comment about Megan being a "dirty German girl" which is really old school racism but alas, we'll never have that call publicly.

Other races? You can really summarize it in one sentence - Chris's views of race come from TV and popular culture in general. Jews eat bagels and whine a lot, Asians are really good at math and karate, Native Americans do rain dances and say "How!", etc.

This article is trying to insinuate something about Chris that really isn't. I know we do this a lot but with race, it's really pushing it for its own article. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:09, 31 December 2009 (CET)
* Given his reaction toward black kids at Game Place, I'd ''definitely'' call him racist. --[[User:DirtyCrappedBriefs|DirtyCrappedBriefs]] 09:18, 31 December 2009 (CET)
* Okay, that's true. Though, as myself and a couple of others was saying above, I think this article should PROBABLY be retitled something like "Chris and discrimination" or "Chris and intolerance." and expanded on greatly. It's easy to see that Chris has shown hatred or dislike in a number of groups, not just blacks. And the sheer fact that Chris doesn't bother actually looking up stuff and, as you said, Chris just uses what he sees on TV and thinks that's how they actually act shows that he has no care for them and/or that he dislikes them because they go against what he is. --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 09:25, 31 December 2009 (CET)
* Your points are valid. However, I think, this all may be fixed by renaming the page to "Chris and discrimination" or "Chris and tolerance" or "Chris and stereotypes". I agree that this article should encompass groups like Homos, Aspergers, Muslims, etc. And I agree that its main point should be moved from implying Chris's racism to just giving a quick overview of Chris's attitude towards various groups. So, my vote is: find a good new name, rename the article, and expand it to other groups. --[[User:GokuGetEm|GokuGetEm]] 09:40, 31 December 2009 (CET)
*How about we rename this article "Chris and Minorities"? It can also be used for his views of others such as the Disabled. But I agree with you that he is not a Stormfront type of racist, he's more of a xenophobe. --[[User:AntonImausMk2|AntonImausMk2]] 00:30, 2 January 2010 (CET)
** I like this idea. There is much that can be said about Chris and minorities, but while Chris is racist, there's not enough material to write about to justify its own article. --[[User:James Lamp-Eye|James Lamp-Eye]] 03:12, 2 January 2010 (CET)
* Chris said he "hates the Chinese" in [[BlueSpike_PSN_Chat_3.5]] and does an insensitive impression of all Asians. In [[Mumble 4]] he does an impression of all black people, saying that they sound like Rastafarians. I'm going to say that yes, he is racist, but not extremely racist. There probably isn't enough of it to make a good page out of, tho. --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 01:51, 2 January 2010 (CET)

==<s>Deletion Notice</s> (Void)==
I am putting this page on my "To-Watch" file. I will delete it in a week if it doesn't improve. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 04:44, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
*Let's salvage anything usable (if there is anything) and add it to the [[Niggos]] article, then just leave this as a redirect. I don't think we're going to get enough material to make this worthwhile as a standalone page. --[[User:SnorlaXBOX|SnorlaXBOX]] 04:53, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
*I would rather move the Niggos article in to this one, and then have smaller subsections for other races. I agree that a lot of this article is exaggerated rubbish, but there's no denying that Chris is extraordinary awkward in his dealings with other cultures. We should cover his interactions with them, but in a more objective way. I would rather see a merge than a deletion. --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 05:02, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
:*But is there really a lot we can say aside from "Chris's views of race come from popular culture"? As I said, Chris more or less absorbs what he sees from TV - thus Jews whine and eat bagels, Asians have buck teeth and say things like "Me so sowwy!," Indians no matter the tribe say "How!" and say things like "Smokum peace pipe!", etc. But does this really need its own article? The niggos article mostly serves as explaining the racism against African Americans, which does require some explaining since it comes up frequently. But I agree, we should salvage what we can if we can't make this into a full fledged article and incorporate it into the Niggos one.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:35, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
**Also, since when are you a moderator Griffintown? --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 05:03, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
***Since Champthom gave me the job. [[CWCki:Community Portal#Quality control jerkops|Here's the announcement]]. I read many people talking about what to do with pages while doing nothing. I strongly believe in deadlines to keep things going. Right now, this page sucks. Expanding the [[Niggo]] page would be a nice answer, adding new material for this page is also good. Let's find answers. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 15:56, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
**** Well Congratulation's on the promotion. --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 19:36, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
*I've begun moving some of the content from this page onto subsection "Chris and stereotypes" on the [[Niggos]] page, which should probably be retitled now. --[[User:SnorlaXBOX|SnorlaXBOX]] 18:51, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
** While that's a good move, I'd rather see this page have the content of "niggos". I've always felt bad about having an entire page dedicated to a racist slur, even a slurred racist slur. Niggos could be mentioned as a minor cwcism, but it doesn't need it's own page. I guess what I'm trying to say is that "Chris and Racism" is a more scholarly sounding title to deal with Chris' interactions with other races than say "niggos". I'm going to try to save this article in favor or turning niggos into a cwcism stub. --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 19:36, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
*Alright, I've overhauled the article, feel free to tweak it or even revert it. However, do keep the changes I've made to the Native American section. It wasn't up to date. --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 20:53, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
:*I think that was a good move. [[Niggos]] can be made a lot more succinct; it should probably stick to the reasons, events, and consequences around the time Chris came up with the word, as well as blacks in [[Sonichu (comic)]]. This page is much better for mulling about stereotypes in general. --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 23:52, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
:*Excellent initiative. I love the way the entry looks like for now. I am putting the Deletion Notice on hold. I want to see how awesome this page can get. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:59, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
The page is great. I remove the deletion notice. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:18, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
*I am enjoying this fine piece of Literature--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 19:22, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

==This page is shit==
Okay, not total shit but it looks like people just took stuff from "Niggos" and dropped them into here, I'm not really seeing why that stuff couldn't just stay in niggos since people are more or less just concerned about his relationship with African Americans. The other stuff is more or less really wordy things along the vein of "Chris uses stereotypes he really doesn't get."

I won't delete it (for now) since a lot of you have spent time on this, but seriously, this is a really messy, disorganized page. Also, someone come up with a better name for it. Maybe "Chris and race"? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:10, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
*As for dumping the niggos article into this one, that's almost exactly what I did, so the section on "blacks" needs some pruning. Is there a more politically correct term we could be using? "African American's" wouldn't encompass everything. Also, other suggested name changes are "Chris and discrimination" and "Chris and tolerance", however, both of those would expand the article to include religion, politics and sexuality; which would be a bit broad. I think it's fine to leave the article as "Chris and Racism" as long we make it explicit that Chris is not racist, just misinformed and slightly xenophobic. --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 21:41, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
:*But that's the thing Megaman, why are we calling it "Chris and racism" if it turns out that Chris isn't really racist? And even if we argue that Chris is not really a racist, shouldn't we allow the reader to come to this conclusion for his or her self? I personally preferred the Niggos article as it was, but if we are going this route, I think that aside from reworking this article to improve for quality and organization, a better name can be used. I think by calling it "Chris and racism" we are essentially using a loaded term from the get go to imply that Chris is racist. Yes, it's fun to imply that Chris is some sort of KKK member who believes in white power but in reality, he's just really uncomfortable around black people but instead of being subtle like most white people who are like this, Chris is like "SORRY, NO BLACK LADIES." Not very PC but not full out racist. Likewise, Chris spouting tired sterotypes about Jews and Cherokees isn't so much racism, IMHO, just cultural insensitivity.
::I'm leaning towards "Chris and race" which reflects the article's intention to discuss Chris and his relations with other races, and allows the reader to decide for his or her self if Chris is indeed racist without having to broaden the scope of the article that an article title like "Chris and discrimination" could imply. Thoughts, people? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:01, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
:::I back the change for "Chris And Race". We need to keep the "Chris and ..." series as vague as possible. Affected as he is, I wonder if Chris even understand the concept of discrimination. Another interesting point, the use of the term "Race" would enable us in the future of adding any ethnic-related concepts. As an example, [[Ching Chong]] is still missing in this very page (another thing we can merge, YAY!). [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 22:12, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
::::*I don't think it's appropriate to merge Ching Chong into this page - Ching Chong is a character and an article about her should still be about this alleged little Chinese girl and not her racist depiction. It's like if we merged "Black Sonichu" into the Niggos article or this article just because he happens to be black. We can mention Ching Chong here but in the very least have a mention for her on the List of Sonichu characters page. I wish there was something along the lines of "List of troll created personas" (along the lines of Max Molvania, Ryan Cash, etc.) but I doubt we could go far with that. But yeah, I think I'll move this to "Chris and race."--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:41, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
::::That might be a good way to prune the main article, by making only links to directly referenced characters, rather than listing them. --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 00:09, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

==Needs a summary/conclusion?==
It's a big article, and I feel it could use a wrapup/conclusion that hits the major points like how he only knows stereotypes from TV, that he's more xenophobic than supremacist, and that his prejudice isn't so much born out of hate or malice, but rather ignorance. Anyone else think there should be a wrapup? --[[User:Needlepants|Needlepants]] 20:56, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

== Chris on Chinese people. ==

The audio quality in that chat isn't the best, but he says "I don't ''mind'' Chinese people". It sounds like "like", but if you listen closely and consider the context, you can tell he didn't say that. He says he has no problem with them, and Julie doesn't follow up on it at all, and Julie used to call him on stuff like that. - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 15:15, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

== Wasn't Chris? ==

Apparently, the Middle East section was removed with "wasn't chris" being the reason. Is there proof the livejournal wasn't Chris? [[User:JamieTyler|JamieTyler]] 14:27, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
*Nevermind, found it. Thanks for removing it.[[User:JamieTyler|JamieTyler]] 14:30, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

== chris and language & other nationalities ==

after seeing many articles and chris's horrible use of non english (and english itself) languages, i've noticed that he does not comprehend even the most basic prececpt that anyone would know. for example, despie seeing so much anime and pretty much being a weeaboo, he can't even use -san or
-chan correctly, and then there is his horrible mangling of the spanish language. Also there is that stupid "freedom fries" thing on sonichu 9 (i think).

TL;DR: Should a section detailing chris ignorance of foreign language and culture be included?[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 01:34, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

== Add in Chris' black face song? ==

Should we go ahead and add in Chris' song to Jackie that he did in black face? I think that adding under the part where it says race relations hasn't improved might be the best place but that's just me. I would do it myself but since I'm kind of new here, I guess I should let more experience CWCipedians do it. --[[User:Bailoroc|Bailoroc]] 13:45, 17 September 2010 (PDT)
:This is more an indication of Chris's ignorance than his racism. He's imitating Mr. Popo (who is a racist caricature himself, but Chris is too stupid to know that). If you were to point out to Chris that this latest video is insanely offensive, his response would be something like this: "I resent all Wrongful mislabelings; in that video I was MR. POPO from DRAGON BALL Z, NOT any Other Thing! I RESPECT the blacks as PEOPLE and I do NOT have racist feelings toward them." And he seriously believes it, too. Yeah, Chris is pretty racist, but it's fairly passive racism most of the time. He doesn't go out of his way to harass other groups, but when he encounters them the level of respect he displays is even less than his customary disregard for the rights and desires of others. [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 13:54, 17 September 2010 (PDT)

The MovingFoward videos

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[[Image:ARCH.jpg|center|300px]]

[[File:Cwcps3.jpg|thumb|One lucky console]]

The '''MovingFoward videos''' are a compilation of three leaked videos ('''MovingFoward''', '''MovingFurtherFoward''', '''100_2209.MOV''') where [[Chris]] physically destroys his [[PS3]]. Having first followed [[Stardate, August 27, 2010|good hard drive disposal practice]], Chris says a few choice words before destroying the console with a brick, [[Son-Chu|his car]], and some scissors. Some photographs of the console in various states of destruction were also leaked.

Chris says that after smashing his console and driving over it with his car, he plugged it in again, apparently to prove that it would no longer function. He seems to have been unaware of the [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|danger of fire]] or [[Electric Hedgehog Pokemon|electric]] shock involved (or perhaps, in his despondent state, he simply didn't care).

Many [[trolls]] had come up with theories as to why Chris smashed his beloved Life Upgrade. Eventually, it was revealed in a [[Clyde and Tito PS3 E-mails|communication between Chris and some high-profile trolls]] that Chris wanted to claim a very large monetary reward for its destruction. To no one's surprise, not only was there supposedly a reward waiting for such an act like this, but it has been completely in vain on Chris's part.

Interesting to note here is that, like the snake he tried to run over, the cardboard box and the [[clown doll]], it takes Chris three tries AND [[ItIsFinished.MOV|a coup de grace the next day]] just to [[I'LL BREAK YOU DEAD|BREAK DEAD]] his PS3.

== Video ==

{{Infobox/video
| name = MovingFoward, MovingFurtherFoward & 100_2209.MOV
| video = {{#ev:youtube|2rVhTdCIJc8}}
| stardate = 29 August 2010
| subject = {{Video games|text}}
| style = {{Tragedy|text}}, {{Crazy|text}}
| saga =
| other = {{Leaked|text}}
| shirt = {{HighSchoolShirt|text}}, Sleeveless Pokéshirt
| previous = [[Stardate, August 27, 2010]]
| next = [[ItIsFinished.MOV]]

}}

== Transcript ==

===Part one (MovingForward)===

[''An opening title card appears, which reads "MovingForward." We cut to Chris, who is standing around outside and shakily filming himself with a handheld camera.'']

Saturday, August 28, 2010.

[''Chris removes his [[glasses]].'']

I make this video as a tribute to [[Gal-pal|what I have lost]]. But also from which I have lost, I have [[Hair|lost something that was of important value]], but I am able to let go. It is the [[Song of Christian|spirit of myself, of which was very lonely]]. But now move on, to a [[Video games|much brighter future]]. And now for the feature presentation on this video. What you are about to see is [[April 16 Fetish Vids|uncensored and unedited]].

[''He moves the camera to show his PS3, which has a case cover plastered in artwork of himself and [[Sonichu]].'']

My PlayStation 3, here in the back yard.

[''He opens the access port to show the hard drive.'']

The hard drive still in there. Formatted as it was. And for a memento, I'm keeping the cover.

[''He removes the case cover, complete with the original [[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles]] illo, and puts it to one side. Then he focuses the camera on himself again.'']

Again, this [[CWCFlyingElephants|very graphic]], so if you are weak in the stomach, especially as a gamer, look away, and I mean no [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|disrespect to Sony Computer Entertainment America]]. Maker of the fine product.

[''Chris mumbles something unintelligible amid the noise of moving the camera. He then sets the camera down so it is focused on his PS3.'']

Vessel of my loneliness for the past three years of anguish. [[Chris and English|I bid you fond...faredieu.]] Adieu. Fond farewell...

[''Chris puts on a pair of work gloves and picks up a piece of landscaping brick while an airplane flies overhead. He then uses the brick to lightly tap his PS3 for the better part of a minute, never raising the brick over his head and only cracking the outer case, [[Chris and health|stopping a few times to rest]].'']

[[Chris and reality|Crushed... Unplayable...]] The deed is done.

===Part two (MovingFurtherForward)===

[''Cut to a second title card, "MovingFurtherForward." It is nighttime. The camera is looking at Chris's driveway, in front of his running car. The headlights allow us to see Chris place the PS3 in front of the left front wheel of Son-Chu. He gets in the car, backs up, and pulls forward, running over the PS3. Then he backs up over it and pulls forward over it again.]

Well, you get the idea anyway. It's useless. Broken.

===Part three (REALLYMovingForward)===

[''Cut to a third title card, "'100_2209.MOV' (A.K.A. 'REALLYMovingForward')." We are in Chris's bedroom. The camera shows us the wreckage of his PS3, very much the worse for wear. In addition to beating the hell out of it, he appears to have cracked the case and broken it down to its component parts, which he shows us by panning the camera around.'']

Ah. Well, I [[6 June 2010|run it over with a car]] and smashed it with a brick. Ugh. I thought I hit it on the metal part and the heavy plastic, but still, when I look at, still, when I plugged it in, it did not turn on. Actually, it went into standby mode, but that's all, as far as it went. That's all it went. So right now I'm gonna finish the job. Finish the job.

[''Chris sets down the camera to show himself and the PS3 parts. He then picks up a pair of scissors, which he uses to stab repeatedly at bits of his former console. Partway through the stab-fest, he unfolds scissors and goes at it two-fisted. Tiring after about 45 seconds, he folds up his scissors and sifts through the debris.'']

[[Duck|Look at that bend.]] [[Chris and anger|Broke a whole buncha stuff.]] Now you tell me it's still good! It ain't now!

[''Chris stands up and the video cuts off.'']

== Destruction gallery ==

In addition to the poor quality video footage of the PS3's destruction, numerous photographs of the before and after have been leaked:

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</gallery></center>
== Fan videos ==
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = R.I.P. CWC's PS3
| video = {{#ev:youtube|iPKvmCzuDC0}}
| Stardate = 29 August 2010
| Maker = tehcosmicexplorer08
| Video Type = Tribute
}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = Tribute To Chris-Chan's PS3
| video = {{#ev:youtube|lFIVUtNszoE}}
| Stardate = 1 September 2010
| Maker = MountieFromHell
| Video Type = Music video
}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = Chris-chan - This video will **** you.
| video = {{#ev:youtube|qUl8tjN7q3s}}
| Stardate = 2 September 2010
| Maker = AnimuAnimalia
| Video Type = ???
}}

== See also ==
*[[PS3]]
*[[ItIsFinished.MOV]]
*[[I'LL BREAK YOU DEAD]]
*[[Chris Destroys His Vibrator]]

{{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[Stardate, August 27, 2010]]|nextlink=[[ItIsFinished.MOV]]}}

{{LeakedVideos}}
{{Game Videos}}

REAL Protest against the FAKE

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"'''REAL Protest against the FAKE'''" is a video uploaded in [[July 2009]] by [[Chris]] in protest of beloved [[YouTube]] Chris-chan impersonator [[CChanSonichuCWC]]. Even in real life, Chris appears to be stuck in the [[Time Void]], because he still thinks it's June. This is the same mistake that he made in [[Captain's Log, Stardate July 7th, 2009|his last Captain's Log video]].

The video description is a notable display of Chris in rage mode not seen since the days of [[Jimmy Hill]]:
{{quotebox|DO NOT BUY from the Impostor, "[http://www.youtube.com/user/CChanSonichuCWC CWCCChanSonichuCWC]". HE IS CRAPPY, and his Nasal Voice is JUST DOWNRIGHT AWFUL.

Also, if I wanted to buy PAPER, I'd go to [[Wal-Mart]] and buy 500 FULL 8.5 X 11 Sheets for about 5 dollars!

HIS CHURCH? HE MUST LIVE IN FRICKIN' OHIO with "[[Julie]]"; NEVER DRIVES GREATER THAN 7 Hours JUST TO EVEN VISIT [[Wesley Memorial]] in [[VIRGINIA]].

F*** HIM TO HELL! }}

Chris led this reactionary protest movement gloriously from victory to victory for about an hour or so, after which the video was deleted. The wrath, it seems, was more than he could bear.

Chris returned the video to YouTube on 23 July. His reasons for taking it down only to upload it again a day later remain a mystery.

==Background==

On 21 July 2009, <s>beloved [[YouTube]] CWC impersonator</s> the TRUE and HONEST CWC, CChanSonichuCWC ([[Liquid Chris]]) uploaded a video on how he set up a vendor booth at the popular Otakon [[anime]] convention and made a fortune off OFFICIAL and ORIGINAL Sonichu merchandise. It was revealed in the [[Jack Thaddeus E-mails]] that [[Jack]], (who was currently holding Chris's PSN hostage) informed Chris about Liquid Chris's massive success.

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===Transcript===
Greetings to my fans on YouTube! I am sorrowfully sorry that I—uh haven't posted a video for awhile. But, uh, I have been very busy, making er—making th—rollin' '''in the dolla bills'''! [''flashes fat wad''] Um, uh, I'll tell you what, and—er—this past weekend, I went to Otakon, which if y'all—if you all don't know what that—if y'all don't that, uh, the Ota—[''noticeable jump cut'']—convention... for some anime and video games and, uh, Japanese cu.... Yeah.

So, anyway, I took my original and official Sonichu merch—ah, merch—merchandise, uh, over there, and what was...—it was, uh, replica medallions. [''holds medallion up to camera''] Uh, and, uh, my—my—my comic... and I baked some myself, some chocky-chip cookies, uh, in the shape of Sonichu's head. So I actually sold all my merchandise by the afternoon time, and uh—made uh—'''lots of money'''! [''flashes cash''] Uh, here it is, there.

So, uh, this time I'm going to, uh, spend it on my church congregation and buy my pastor, Elizabeth, a copy of ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]''. I—I, uh—I hope she has a [[PS3]]. [''big smile'']

Now, because I, uh—sold all my stuff, I can't show you any of it because, uh, it's not here. But, uh, I am—uh, I am replenishing my, uh, my stock. So, my official stock there. So, uh, if—if you want to all buy straight from the source, I am, uh—I will be working to set—to set up a original webpage to sell it on. So, uh, be looking forward to that. Uh, to that, uh, I'll tell you what. Anyway, um, peace. Have a good day.

==Youtube comments from Chris ==

The so-called "real" Chris got wind of this and was furious at the idea of someone slandering his good name by being thin, successful, and self motivated.

;First comment

"GIVE IT UP, Dumbass. YOU are Not Me, the Real CWC, and you Wish you Were. I Challenge you to Sow yourself in my Real Life Presence, O I can really give you a piece of my mind.

No Peace,
Christian C."

;Second comment

"Hey, DUMBASS! YOU WISH YOU WERE ME! I would say YOU are Stuck... IN MINUS-SECOND-GEAR!

I am Calling YOU OUT!

14 Branchland Ct. Ruckersville, VA
BEFORE August 2, 2009.
If you really WANT to be me, then Come Face Me.

oh, BTW, YOUR NASAL VOICE IS MORE GRATING THAN THE WORD "NAIVE", and METAL NAILS ON THE CHALKBOARD.

But "Naive" is even WORSE than NAILS.

You are a Nerd and a Whimp!

Have a good day.
Christopher Christian Weston Chandler"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ps7qcH7sPA

==Video==

{{Tardrage}}

{{Infobox/video
| name = CWC Update 22 July 2009
| image = {{#ev:youtube|wn8RBijuT1g}}
| Stardate = 22 July 2009
| Maker = [[Christian Weston Chandler]]
| Performance Style = [[Image:Rage.png]] [[Rage]]
| Saga = {{Liquid|text}}
| Shirt = {{BlueTShirt|text}}, {{DenimJacket|text}}
| previous = [[CWC Trollin More]]
| next = [[Do Not Dis C Ville]]
}}

===Transcript===

[[Captain's Log]], June 22nd: 200—no, I'm sorry—''July'' 22nd, 2009.

As you all may have heard about the quote/unquote "Christian Weston Chandler" that went to the Otakon in the past weekend and actually uploaded a video of himself in a stupid, brown-striped shirt with a [''voice breaks''] paper thin medal replica—paper thin. If you want the official merchandise, the medallion is made... '''from'''... '''clay'''. '''''Clay'''''! C-L-A-Y.

And, not only that, [''voice cracks again''] remember my face? ''My'' face?

And I'm nowadays wearing a vest and improving my image.

Do not buy anymore from this ''crappy'' impostor; do not give him anymore money.

[''voice hits even higher pitch than before''] And he's saying he's gonna give to quote/unquote "his" congregation when ''my'' Elizabeth Foss—it's ''my'' congregation, ''not'' his! [''voice breaks even higher''] ''Who'' does the impostor think he is? ''DOWN with him''! [''mimics the Undertaker''] ''Burn in hell''.

And worst of all: that nasally voice of his, to think it—they can get away with as mine. [''tries to flip the bird, but points instead, then corrects self''] He's got another thing coming.

As for the rest of you that have been—that are good and true... peace to all of you. Have a pleasant day.

{{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[CWC Trollin More]]|nextlink=[[It's UGH!]]|}}
{{Captain's Log}}

{{The Cwcivil War of 2009}}

[[Category: Captain's log entries| 2009-07-22]]

PS3

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{{taxpayermoney}}

[[Image:Sony playstation 3.jpg|thumb|A life upgrade.]]

[[Sony]] '''PlayStation 3''' (purchased 17 March [[2007]]<ref>[[PS3 History Level]]</ref> - [[The MovingFoward videos|28 August 2010]]) was [[Chris]]'s orginal "life upgrade." He wanted to win one in a contest, so he made [[Pixelated PS3|a video]] where he built one out of [[Pixelblocks]]. He would "throw out the cure for [[autism]]" for one.<ref>[[Pixelated PS3]]</ref> Chris eventually went ahead and bought one with taxpayer money from his [[monthly tugboat]], using one of his many collected credit cards. In [[August 2010]], following [[PS3#Molestations_and_other_PS3_damage|repeated PS3 abuse]], he [[PS3#Good_night.2C_sweet_prince|destroyed]] his life upgrade.

Chris's replacement '''PS3''' is his second life upgrade. Despite ceremoniously "[[The_MovingFoward_videos|MovingFoward]]" only a few days before, Chris could not live without his life upgrade and so reportedly wasted yet more of [[America]]ns' tax dollars replacing it. He was earning new trophies with it by the second week of September 2010. May the frivolous [[PSN]] spending and hacking drama continue.

==PlayStation Network==

[[Image:Etc playstation.PNG|thumb|Confirmation emails, a testament to Chris's financial responsibility.]]

[[Chris]], being as irresponsible with [[Chris and money|money]] as he is, went into overdrive with this feature of the PS3's [[online]] capabilities. Chris has spent so much on the PSN it has contributed into most of the $2000 of his credit card debt (as of the [[Julie]] saga in early 2009). At present, that number is higher, at a little over a third of Chris's [[Monthly tugboat|annual income]].

You might ask yourself how he could spend that much and what he could spend it on. Chris seemingly buys everything possible, from game content to movies to several episodes of terrible harem [[anime]]. A list of Chris's PSN purchases reveals that he has even bought upgrades to games he doesn't even own.

Chris has spent at least '''$3405.22''' in American [[Monthly tugboat|taxpayer dollars]].

=== Spending history ===

The following table chronicles Chris's deposits into his PlayStation Network "wallet" between April 2007 and February 2010, the period for which detailed records of his transactions are available (thanks to the work of expert hackers).

Some interesting patterns can be spotted in his spending habits. He was relatively thrifty for most of 2007 and into early 2008, when he still had a few other outlets for entertaining himself outside his home. There's a sharp spike around the time of his first ban from [[The GAMe PLACe]], though (and he might also have been binging to get over his "breakup" with Megan Schroeder, which happened that same spring). Likewise, it's perhaps not a coincidence that after Chris was permanently booted from the PLACe in the summer of 2008, he began spending a good deal more money on the PSN.

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! '''Month
! '''Amount
! '''Month
! '''Amount
! '''Month
! '''Amount
! '''Month
! '''Amount
! '''Month
! '''Amount
|-
| February 2010
| '''$130.00
| July 2009
| '''$80.00
| December 2008
| '''$150.00
| May 2008
| '''$90.00
| October 2007
| '''$55.00
|-
| January 2010
| '''$90.00
| June 2009
| '''$170.00
| November 2008
| '''$110.00
| April 2008
| '''$16.02
| September 2007
| '''$35.00
|-
| December 2009
| '''$234.29
| May 2009
| '''$135.00
| October 2008
| '''$90.07
| March 2008
| '''$20.00
| August 2007
| '''$65.00
|-
| November 2009
| '''$215.00
| April 2009
| '''$225.00
| September 2008
| '''$90.00
| February 2008
| '''$20.00
| July 2007
| '''$25.00
|-
| October 2009
| '''$268.41
| March 2009
| '''$210.00
| August 2008
| '''$85.00
| January 2008
| '''$75.00
| June 2007
| '''$10.00
|-
| September 2009
| '''$132.36
| February 2009
| '''$125.00
| July 2008
| '''$120.00
| December 2007
| '''$25.00
| May 2007
| '''$35.00
|-
| August 2009
| '''$50.00
| January 2009
| '''$90.00
| June 2008
| '''$30.00
| November 2007
| '''$30.00
| April 2007
| '''$25.00
|}

=== Trophies ===

According to the [http://profiles.us.playstation.com/playstation/psn/profiles/Sonichu PSN profile for Sonichu], as of 8 September 2010, Chris has 1118 trophies. ''Note: Availability of Sonichu's trophy information is dependent on the proper functioning of the PlayStation Network. Information is not updated in real time.''

The games where he had over 50% progress so far include:

{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
!align="left"|Game
!align="left"|Trophies
!align="left"|Progress
!align="left"|Comments
|-
| ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]''
| 70
| 100%
| And he still can't coordinate his jumps, or design a good level.
|-
| ''[[wikipedia:InFamous|inFamous]]''
| 50
| 100%
| A man dressed in yellow that shoots electricity? [[Sonichu|Hmmmmm...]]
|-
|''[[God of War]] III''
|36
|100%
|All that blood and gore couldn't stop Chris from grabbing all the trophies and deity boobies.
|-
|''God of War II''
|35
|100%
| From the God of War Collection.
|-
| ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog|Sonic]]'s Ultimate Genesis Collection''
| 35
| 100%
| Another case of redundancy for most of the included games, especially the Sonic ones.
|-
| ''[[wikipedia:Linger In Shadows|Linger In Shadows]]''
| 16
| 100%
| Apparently, a demoscene production. ''Not'' remarkable. Most people already had 1000 gamerscore in ''[[wikipedia:Second Reality|Second Reality]]''. In 1993.
|-
| ''[[wikipedia:Flower_(video_game)|Flower]]''
| 14
| 100%
|
|-
| ''[[wikipedia:Sam_%26_Max:_The_Devil%27s_Playhouse|Sam and Max: The Devil's Playhouse]] - Episode 1: The Penal Zone''
| 13
| 100%
|
|-
| ''[[wikipedia:Wheel_of_Fortune_(video_game)|Wheel of Fortune]]''
| 13
| 100%
| Truly, the apex of hi-def gaming.
|-
| ''[[wikipedia:Gunstar_Heroes|Gunstar Heroes]]''
| 12
| 100%
| Chris may have got 100% in Gunstar Heroes, but IRL he's a total zero.
|-
|''Sam and Max: The Devil's Playhouse - Episode 2: The Tomb of Sammun Mak
|12
|100%
|
|-
| ''[[wikipedia:Buzz!|Buzz!]] Junior: Monsters''
| 11
| 100%
| "Junior" says it all.
|-
| ''Buzz! Junior: RoboJam''
| 11
| 100%
|
|-
|''Sam and Max: The Devil's Playhouse - Episode 4: Beyond the Alley of the Dolls
|11
|100%
|
|-
| ''[[wikipedia:.detuned|.detuned]]''
| 10
| 100%
| Another demoscene production. Again, we'd allege that Chris wouldn't get too far in Farbrausch's more famous interactive entertainment prod ''.kkrieger'' - not to even mention the largely .famous ''.the .product'', dammit!
|-
| ''Sam and Max: The Devil's Playhouse - Episode 3: They Stole Max's Brain
| 10
| 100%
|-
| ''[[wikipedia:Mainichi Issho|Mainichi Issho]]''
| 7
| 100%
| A Japan-only release. Apparently just like ''[[Animal Crossing]]'', only more boring and even bigger of a grindfest.
|-
| ''[[wikipedia:Frogger_Returns|Frogger Returns]]''
| 4
| 100%
| ''One hundred percen—!'' ...Oh, it's four trophies for four levels.
|-
| ''[[wikipedia:Burnout_Paradise|Burnout Paradise]]''
| 93
| 91%
| It has cars. They can be driven. Chris thinks this game is up there among greatest games ever made, with likes of ''The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time''.<ref>[[Brutal Legend Plus]]</ref>
|-
| ''[[ModNation Racers]]''
|46
|91%
|A driving game that chris is terrible at. The levels that Chris have made so far are simply bad. In 500 online races Chris has only won 100; that shows Chris's skills.
|-
| ''[[wikipedia:Braid_(video_game)|Braid]]''
| 11
| 89%
| A game about a man who alters [[Time Void|time]] to rescue his [[sweetheart]]. Note that the end of the game reveals the main character to be [[Christian Weston Chandler|a stalker]]. It is, however, worth noting that Braid is a puzzle game, and not a simple one to play either, yet he still fully completed the game. This is perhaps the most definite proof that Chris isn't mentally retarded (or, at least, he knows how to use GameFAQs).
|-
|''God of War''
|33
|82%
| Most of the trophies are simply earned by progressing through the game normally. The trophies he lacks are the ones that require you to complete actual challenges or completing the game in under 5 hours.
|-
| ''[[wikipedia:Heavy_rain|Heavy Rain]]''
| 53
| 80%
|
|-
| ''The Price Is Right''
|11
|76%
| Another real [[sonichu|masterpiece]] of hi-def gaming
|-
| ''[[wikipedia:Sonic_unleashed|Sonic Unleashed]]''
| 37
| 75%
| Due to the trophy data not visible to the public and people reporting hearsay as fact, a lot of people were under assumption that Chris had 100% of the trophies in ''Sonic 2006'' (which doesn't even have trophies). Now, we're equally perplexed by the fact that Chris has ''only'' 75% of trophies in a bona-fide 3D Sonic title.
|-
| ''[[Brutal Legend Plus|Brütal Legend]]''
| 46
| 74%
| \m/ [[Britney Spears]]! \m/
|-
| ''[[wikipedia:Penny_Arcade_Adventures|Penny Arcade Adventures]]: OtRSPoD, Episode One''
| 11
| 71%
|
|-
| ''Penny Arcade Adventures: OtRSPoD, Episode Two''
| 11
| 71%
|
|-
| ''[[wikipedia:Noby_Noby_Boy|Noby Noby Boy]]''
| 9
| 71%
|-
| ''[[wikipedia:Numblast|NUMBLAST]]''
|10
|71%
|NUMBLAST is a [[homos|colorful]] Japanese puzzle game
|-
| ''Buzz!: Quiz TV''
| 16
| 61%
| The first of the ''Buzz!'' games to appear on PS3. See also Chris's [[Quizzes]] for his MyBUZZ! stuff.
|-
| ''[[Emily_Date_Conversation_Transcript#Meet_the_Pickle_.2801:21:44_-_01:25:29.29|Watchmen]]''
| 8
| 57%
|
|-
| ''[[wikipedia:Uno_(video_game)|UNO]]''
| 10
| 52%
| Seriously?
|}

Comparing to the [[List of Chris's games|list of games he owns]], there was a bunch of them that he hadn't even booted up a single time. There are some games he had touched maybe once and then left to the wayside; for example, all of his ''BioShock'' trophies are from the beginning of the game, and he received all of them on October 23, 2008, over a couple of hours. (The logical conclusion is that the second level of ''BioShock'' will ''blow your mind.'') In public, he also prominently featured games he never really played; the [[PS3 History Level]] shows many games that he touched only a few times (''Mirror's Edge'' and ''BioShock'', for example, currently sit at 11% and 9% respectively), and in [[PS3 Tutorial for my fans|the PS3 tutorial]], Chris says he thinks ''PAIN'' is a "fun" game, yet he let it sit at 0%.

=== Hacking ===

As a result of his online notoriety, his poor choice of passwords, and his innate gullibility, Chris’s PlayStation Network account was hacked or otherwise wrested from his control on multiple occasions. [[BlueSpike]], in his guise as Chris’s sweetheart [[Julie]], was able to convince Chris to break the first fundamental rule of cybersecurity and "share" his password in [[BlueSpike_PSN_Chat_3|February 2009]], which was later used as a wedge to control and torment Chris. That summer, [[Jack Thaddeus]] seized the account, resulting in the infamous [[Chris humps his PS3|eight minutes of console sex]] and detailed revelations concerning Chris’s insane online spending habits.

Chris managed to keep control of his accounts for a surprisingly long time after his run-in with Thaddeus, but his luck ran out on 24 [[February 2010]], thanks to [[Surfshack Tito|a certain <s>nigger</s> Hawaiian]].

==Fanboyism==
<center>{{#ev:youtube|ws9MqtHzcz4}}</center>

{{quote|So… good reason to get a PlayStation 3 system… of at least 60 GB or higher! 'Cause, uh, y'know, they have four USB ports, the memory card slots, and able to access the Internet wirelessly. While 40 GB and lower: two USB ports, no memory card slots, and requires an Ethernet cable to connect to the Internet. And… LittleBigPlanet! And as you all know from my sponsorship video, ev— most of the videos I put up on YouTube were spon— were sponsored by Sony, and their PlayStation Eye, and their PlayStation 3.|[[Chris Chan Update 13 October 2008|Chris failing to tell us what the "good reason" is]]}}
{{quote|And yet, at the beginning, during the "Console War", I feel that I have chosen Truly Wise. Sony has truly helped this soul better his life, and many others as well. And with every new update, the PS3 and PSP grow more and more better alongside me. Playstaion isn't just a Station to Play, it's the station to Play and Truly Enrich Yourself. Higher Definition equals Better Points of View. Talking over the internet from a sancturious comfort is truly an enriching luxury. Now I have put behind me my regrets of Life without Playstation. And with Priceless Experiences, an honest sense of satisfaction. And a more mature winning attitude. Sony's Playstation 3 and Playstation Portable are Truly a place I can call... My Digital HOME. :D Happy Anniversary, Playstation 3; you are Truly the Best Life Upgrade Ever|Chris, fellating the faceless angel of overpriced electronics in [[PS3 History Level]] speech bubbles}}

[[Image:Playstation Patrol W CWC's Car.JPG|thumb|right|[[Son-Chu]] camped outside a Playstation Cave]]
Chris pops giant boners for PS3. He makes trolls on /v/ look like mild enthusiasts with his hatred of the [[Hex Bawx]].

==Molestations and other PS3 damage==

On 24 [[July 2009]], a video of [[Chris humps his PS3|Chris humping his PS3]] was leaked. It is generally believed that physically molesting electronics may often shorten their lifespan; hard drives and optical drives are particularly prone to breaking under such physical [[stress]].

On 5 [[May 2010]], Chris [[I Pimp My Ride|posted a video]] in which he bragged about removing a "bug" from his PS3, thanks to a [[white knight]] who tipped him off. While Chris did apparently understand that the component was actually the system's wireless networking antenna, he removed it anyway. It seems to have had no effect on his ability connect his PS3 to the internet, indicating that he either uses a wired ethernet connection or he realized how fucked he was and put it back in place. In any case, he voided his console's warranty... just as planned.

On 27 [[August 2010]], Chris [[Stardate, August 27, 2010|posted a solemn video]] where he explains how he inadvertently formatted his own PS3, erasing over 3 years of his life. Through repeated abuse (see above), Chris's PS3 was misbehaving, prompting him to contact [[Sony]] tech support. They apparently guided him through an attempt to fix corrupted files on the PS3's hard drive, but fortunately this did not go to plan and Chris was given a choice to reformat his drive, which he accepted.

In the video, Chris blamed a "misunderstanding" between him and the support representative as the reason why he ended up formatting his drive, but it's more likely that Chris [[Autism|wasn't even listening]] to the things the representative was saying, being more concerned with being able to use his life upgrade again as soon as possible. This dubious series of events was disputed by CWC experts, who suspect that Chris may not have been his [[List of Chris's lies|TRUE and HONEST self]]. However, his PSN account activity suggested he had indeed deleted fucking everything.

==Good night, sweet prince==

[[File:Cameragroup004.jpg|thumb|Trivia: Chris still keeps VHS tapes in the clutter of his [[room]]]]

On 29 August 2010, trolls obtained [[The MovingFoward videos]] where Chris finally put the nail in his life upgrade's coffin by beating it up with an edging stone and then running it over with his [[car]]. In the third video, Chris claimed to have tested his PS3 and confirmed it no longer started up but still "went into standby mode". He then used some scissors to repeatedly stab the console's remains. Trolls also obtained [[The_MovingFoward_videos#Destruction_Gallery|photographs of the console]] in various states of destruction.

The next day, [[ItIsFinished.MOV|another video]] appeared wherein Chris took the crushed, stabbed, and disassembled parts of his PS3, laid them out in his driveway, and ran them over with his car yet again (repeatedly) for good measure.

It was revealed [[Clyde and Tito PS3 E-mails|through a series of e-mails]] that Chris had destroyed his beloved Life Upgrade in an attempt to cash in on a troll reward. However, to the surprise of none, he didn't think through this idea more, destroying nearly $5000 dollars in his greed.

== The Rebirth ==

As of September 6th, 2010, only ''days'' after killing his life upgrade, it was resurrected, [[monthly tugboat|with your help]]. Chris had claimed in his Tito and Clyde emails that he would never buy another PS3, probably an attempt to convince the two. Little does Chris know, as he thinks he is the puppet master, yet the trolls are the ones pulling his strings.

==Other oddities==

Chris appears to have put at least some of the games he has bought in blue Blu-Ray cases instead of keeping them in original retail cases.<ref>Seen, for example, in [[Brutal Legend]].</ref> He even does so in ''[[Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Chronicles]]'' advertisement. This peculiar practice is explained in Chris's [[PS3 History Level]]: Chris buys Blu-Ray game cases from eBay and switches them over because "It's THINNER than the Clear Original PS3 Disc Cases; MORE SHELF SPACE for MORE GAMES."

==See also==
*[[Chris-chan Discusses...]] - a video interview with Chris conducted over the PS3's video chat service.
*[[List of Chris's games]] - detailing his entire game collection.
*[[List of Chris's PSN video downloads]]
*[[List of Chris's PSN game downloads]]
*[[Pixelated PS3]] - Chris attempt to build one from [[Lego]] and [[Pixelblocks]].
*[[PS3 History Level]]
*[[PSEye]]
*[[PSP]]
*[[PSN Blogs]] - an archive of Chris's posts.
*[[Sonichu Home Club]] - because Chris loves Sony so much, he uses their ''Second Life'' ripoff.
*[[Sony]]
*[[Hex Bawx|Xbox 360]] - the Kryptonite of Chris's video gaming.
*[[ItIsFinished.MOV]] - GAME OVER.

==Sauces==
<references/>

==External links==
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3WQ3QiJMWU Boyfriend-Free PS3]

[[Category:Things Chris has had Sex with]]
[[Category:Video Games]]
[[Category:Sony]]
[[Category:PS3]]

Song for Jackie.MOV

2010-09-16T23:40:12Z

Sygerrik:

[[Image:Niggachris.jpg|thumb|120px|What Chris would look like if he actually had a black face.]]
'''Song for Jackie.MOV ''' is a video uploaded 16 September 2010. In another failureific attempt to impress [[Jackie]], Chris dons a turban and paints his face in black and red to resemble Mr. Popo from ''Dragon Ball'' and [[Chris and Music|"sings"]] his version of [[Wikipedia:Mmm_Mmm_Mmm_Mmm|"Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm"]] by [[Wikipedia:Crash_Test_Dummies|Crash Test Dummies]].

Note that "sings" is in quotes because Chris's grating mumblings make even his earlier [[Christian and the Hedgehog Boys|ill-fated music career]] sound like the work of a classically-trained soprano by comparison. Likely unaware of the similarity of his makeup to [[Niggos|blackface]], he rounds out the performance with an impromptu [[Wikipedia:Minstrel show|minstrel song]] adapted from the Spike Lee movie ''Bamboozled'', his [[muscle bra|masculine bosoms]] flailing wildly with each gyration. At this point, Jackie's reaction is unknown...
==Video==
{{Infobox/video
| name = Song For Jackie
| video = {{#ev:youtube|TzAJvMKQeJA}}
| stardate = 16 [[September 2010]]
| subject = {{Music|text}}, {{Racism|text}}, {{Sex|text}}
| style = {{Crazy|text}}
| shirt = {{DenimJacket|text}}
| previous = [[XBox is OK.MOV]]
| next = Current
| saga = {{Jackie|text}}
}}

===Transcript===
[[File:Leadbelly.jpg|thumb|Leadbelly's reaction to this video.]]

'Ello. I am glasses wearing genie, [[Dragon Ball Z|Mr. Popo]]. [nods and folds his arms, then turns on audio.] I tell you a story. It is a good story. You will enjoy story.

[''starts 'singing' ''] Once there was this boy [''flashes manboobs''] who was born with some autism and yet made a few friends, but after his high school years he...[[ShecameforCWC.JPG|lost]]...his friends and was troll tortured. By bullies who were jealous of his material things [wiggles his head from side to side and waggles his finger] Nonononononono. [''hums'']

Once there was this girl who continued to have friends long after high school. She could have had her pick of men. Then she found the wayward lost boy. They matched up very well, [[:File: SchuComic10P09.jpg|heavenly matched]]...
Loooove, he was so[?]...

And both [''starts to say 'boy', turns it into 'girl'''] boirl and boy were glad when they both saw each other's eyes. When they met up! They both thought of each other. Very often! They had enjoyed each other's company sweetly. Oh, roller coaster ecstasy. In fantasy, their days were simple and they looked to be married and have their own [[Reginald Chandler|boy]]. And [[Crystal|girl]]. It's true! Wait for marriage invitations!

[''Suddenly animated, imitating fiddle player''] And there ain't no saiyans on de fiddle, no saiyans on de fiddle like this! Ain't no saiyans on de fiddle, no saiyans on de fiddle like this!

[''begins to dance what is most likely a continuation of whatever Minstrel Song he saw; a mockery of African aborigional dancing'']
Asanyoheywahwah hohoheyahoh!
Asanyoheywahwah hohoheyahoh!

And there ain't no saiyans on de fiddle, no saiyans on de fiddle like this! Ain't no saiyans on de fiddle, no saiyans on de fiddle like this!

Asanyoheywahwah hohoheyahoh!
Asanyoheywahwah hohoheyahoh!

[''spoken''] Happy loving! Between me and Jackie! I love you sweetheart. Boing!

==See Also==
* [[For My Sweetest Ivy]]
* [[A CWC Audition]]
* [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV]]

{{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[XBox is OK.MOV]]|nextlink=Current}}
{{Music Videos}}
{{Sweetheart Videos}}

[[Category:Videos Christian uploaded to YouTube]]

CWCki:General

2010-09-16T16:46:03Z

Sygerrik: /* Chris and Morality Page */

__NEWSECTIONLINK__

{{Community Portal}}

*[[CWCki:General/Archive 1|Archive 1]]

For discussion that doesn't fit into the other community pages - though do keep it related to the CWCki.

== Da update is used for Chris updates...but what about other updates? ==
For example, I don't think the Lucas video game pictures should be on the update, but it should be noteworthy. Should it placed in da update or no? Also if you're wondering what pictures, I'M WORKING ON IT. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 21:33, 9 September 2010 (PDT)
:Where should I stick the pictures? I uploaded them with Lucas commentary on them. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 12:42, 10 September 2010 (PDT)
::I think either the list of Chris's games article or the video games article. Leaning towards the video games article, if only because the list article is already pretty damned huge. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 14:07, 10 September 2010 (PDT)

== Image purge project ==
According to the Spongepedia (also hosted by dreamhost), 500 internal server error may be caused by TOO MANY IMAGES. In any case, I'm sick of seeing shitty images that do nothing to enhance articles as well. please tag images that are useless on their talk pages for deletion. kthx [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 20:45, 10 September 2010 (PDT)
*Based on what you told me about the Spongebob wiki, their problem was also due to image size. Perhaps if we work on resizing images down to less than 30kb?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 13:34, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
::Eh, the 500 errors are a configuration/setup issue. I highly doubt images are the root cause. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 13:44, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
:::No, it's a general agreed consensus that the 500 internal server error is occurring more often nowadays. It has to do with an increasing amount of SOMETHING. I'm going by this only lead right now. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 19:09, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
::::I mostly get 500 errors on pages that are large - that is - the body of text is large. Images really seem to have a negligible effect on whether a page 500's for me or not. We should think carefully about whether going about an image purge will largely be a wasted effort and/or do more harm than good towards error fixing (generating more edits - which may also form part of the problem). --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 20:06, 11 September 2010 (PDT)

== Overlooked interview? ==

A couple of weeks ago, I noticed on the talk page for [[Chris-chan_Discusses...]], the subject of a previous interview was brought up, and Champ said he didn't want to put it on until they had a youtube version for it. A year later, someone did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR_PrPHC2l0 The video doesn't have many views, and I don't believe it has an article for it. I'm not sure if any of this is relevant, but I wanted to draw attention to it in case it needs an article or some other mention.--[[User:Austin|Austin]] 06:03, 11 September 2010 (PDT)

== Chris and diligence article? ==

Christian's work ethics and his laziness are rightfully infamous, but there isn't an article dealing with it en detail. I'd make it myself but due to stress and my poor grasp of English I'd rather hear the opinions of others on it before making a crappy attempt. --[[User:Maximilian Graves|Maximilian Graves]] 07:58, 15 September 2010 (PDT)
** Strangely enough, I was thinking the same thing. Though with how lazy he is, the article would probably grow to be almost as large as the article on sex. [[User:Melainia|Melainia]] 21:04, 15 September 2010 (EST)

== My response to the site administrator. ==

Just a few days ago, a member of our forums decided to claim that we were involved in attacks on your wiki. We were notified by the administrator of your site on a locked topic supposedly thanking us for our actions placed on PSPownsYou (or PBML) and also requested action on another supposed participant named Level1isbest. I just want to point out that we have no intention of harming your site and that the involved parties are a bunch of fucking trolls, but then again every person on Newgrounds does it for the lulz, not including school shootings (Jeff Weise). Sorry for any inconvienence. [[User:Tateos|Tateos]] 16:25, 15 September 2010 (PDT)

==Chris and Morality Page==

Though his morality has been mentioned on several other pages, I think it would be best to have one page dedicated to his morality, or lack there-of, and where it comes from, mainly his ego. [[User:Melainia|Melainia]] 21:07, 15 September 2010 (EST)
: Frankly, if it's coming from his ego, it should be mentioned on the [[ego]] page. This is, however, unless there's enough to justify a major Chris and page.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 20:37, 15 September 2010 (PDT)
:: I don't really think Chris's morality needs its own page, as it would end up being a documentation of all the times he's been a horrible person (huge list), and all of the reasons behind it (troll speculation). These issues are already covered rather in depth on Chris's own page, the White Knighting page, the pages on Chris's Lies, Things Chris Has Ripped Off, Women's Rights, Homos etc. I feel a page purely about what a bad person he is is redundant (and self-evident besides). [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 09:46, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

User talk:DeathtraP/What have I been using for brains?

2010-09-09T17:28:19Z

Sygerrik: /* Conspiracy */

==Conspiracy==
You know, Bob is not insane. Chris really IS the target of a massive conspiracy. It's us. Bob is wrong about the specifics, but that's not insanity, it's just incomplete information-- and given that Chris hung out with Mimms, Lucas and Megan when this all started, it's not an unreasonable supposition. [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 08:52, 9 September 2010 (PDT)
:I think what qualifies Bob's beliefs about us as "crazy" is the extent of our abilities - He sees us as being on par with the Illuminati, but in actuality, we don't have nearly as many feet on the ground as we'd like. [[User:RobGoblin|RobGoblin]] 09:33, 9 September 2010 (PDT)
::Again, I'd simply say that Bob has incomplete information. We have managed to get Chris to do a lot of weird things. Chris has also gotten himself kicked out of lots of places and has earned lots of negative attention from the law and the PVCC authorities. Bob, not being present when Chris flips his shit, only has Chris's account to go on, and when fitting his son's tales of persecution into the larger context of our actions, his belief of a conspiracy is not really unreasonable. Bob knows that there is a large group of people out there who dedicate a large amount of time to harassing his son and making his life miserable. When Chris comes crying with tales of harassment by Jerkops, Manajerks and the evil MLW, Occam's Razor would indicate that the same people are behind it all. He's wrong, but he's not crazy. [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 10:28, 9 September 2010 (PDT)

User talk:DeathtraP/What have I been using for brains?

2010-09-09T15:52:51Z

Sygerrik: Created page with "==Conspiracy== You know, Bob is not insane. Chris really IS the target of a massive conspiracy. It's us. Bob is wrong about the specifics, but that's not insanity, it's just i..."

Talk:Monthly tugboat

2010-09-04T05:48:47Z

Sygerrik: /* This is bullshit */

==To do==
*Chris's references to his monthly tugboat (see Smithey e-mails and Miyamoto e-mails).

----

Random Thought: Since Chris gets paid from welfare out of our pockets, are we not paying for him entertaining us? It seems like a fair exchange for me. If anything, Chris should be thanking us (and everyone else who is an USAfag and pays taxes) for keeping him and his creepy obsessions alive. Since I have to pay for him, I want to get every cent worth from this lolcow. --[[User:Wild Sonichu|Wild Sonichu]] 04:33, 12 May 2009 (CEST)

==Disambiguation==
'Monthly Tugboat' shoud just contain the definition and the times he's used the word, we shoud create another page titled 'Chris and Money' --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 01:38, 20 May 2009 (CEST)

I liek both the above ideas. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 17:22, 30 May 2009 (CEST)

==$800,$750?==

I've noticed that some pages say that his tugboat is $750 and others saying that it's $800. Does anyone have evidence to show which value it is?([[User:Drlugae|Drlugae]] 19:25, 21 July 2009 (CEST))
*The thing is, Chris has said about three different values. I believe he's said "$800" so let's try and find a citation for that. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:48, 21 July 2009 (CEST)
*The tugboat rises in value each year so long as cost of living increases, so it's definitely over $800. $750 might be an old number from a few years back. [[User:Elephant|Elephant]] 17:06, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

==State or federal?==
Is the welfare program chris leeches off of paid for by all taxpayers or just the ones in virginia? [[User:V3N0M1300|V3N0M1300]] 21:18, 28 September 2009 (CEST)
*It's social security. So it's federal. And it is somehow arranged through Bob's SSN. Details as to how this works exactly are fuzzy. But it isn't typical state welfare. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:01, 28 September 2009 (CEST)
:*It needs to be reiterated that this is not a welfare check but a disability check. It is a form of government welfare, but it is not welfare in a "you don't need to work" sort of way but that he has managed to establish he has a disability (namely autism) that prevents him from maintaining or keeping work. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:29, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

== On Advice of Bob? ==

Is there a source of where this came from? If it came from Chris I feel it may be a point to make that this may be Chris' point of view on the matter and may not reflect the truth. --[[User:El Presidente|El Presidente]] 12:14, 3 November 2009 (CET)

== This is bullshit ==

As an American citizen who has a job (albeit a crappy job, but it's still a job) I feel cheated that some of my money may potentially be going to this manchild, not to mention I think it would be lulzy to see Chris lose everything.

Who would I go about contacting to get a re-evaluation of Chris's condition as relating to his monthly disability checks? I'm not denying that he has problems (as that should be very obvious), but I think that he is highly-functioning enough for wellfare to be unwarranted (he likely put that his autism hampers his social skills and thus renders him unfit for work, his large Internet presence is proof enough that this is bullshit).

The only record of his autism is that 2004 paper which, for reasons as mentioned in it's article is not really a good analysis of Chris's condition, so if they decide to investigate it would be most likely mandantory for them to get a fresh opinion. Also, this page (which will eventually surface in any search of CWC, most likely Chris will mention it himself) shows all the money wasted by Chris, and is damning evidence IMO (though CWCki being a semi-biased third-party, there will be concerns about legitimacy, and obviously Chris will decry "HACKERS").

There would also be concerns from the CWCkians that even if Chris were to fail a reevaluation and be forced to look for jobs, that he could simply say no one will hire him and get unemployment without actually trying to apply. I would think, however, that the Virginia employment commission would keep tabs on his case, and contact the employers for their confirmation of their refusal to hire Chris (I live in Texas and have been through 2 jobs, the workforce here DOES keep tabs on you like that. In my case it wasn't about abusing the system, but just confirming that I found another employer (whom they had previously called unbeknownst to me), so I'm basing my assumption of how the system works off of this experience).

Another underlying theme I'm getting from the article and the comments (though I may be fucking up the context) is that the arrangement Chris has now may not be 100% legal, which could lead to extra lulz.

Also, the 9/11 videos would maybe show that Chris has no respect for the government and only exists to exploit it.

I am serious about doing this as not only would this potentially direct my tax money to someone who needs it (or another leech amirite :P ) but it would also be a welcome kick into reality for Chris. The only problem is that I don't know exactly who to contact, should I write to my Congressman, to the Social Security Administration, or to the Virginia Employment Commission directly?

I apologize if this has been asked before, I'm a n00b plus I haven't seen anything about it here.

tl;dr: hey guyz, let's sink Chris's tugboat :3 [[User:Cadpig|- Cadpig]] 18:32, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
* From what I've understood, other people have tried to get the State to get Chris's tugboat revoked and have failed. Apparently, the state doesn't care about Chris blowing our hard earned money.
: Trust me, as a citizen of the same state Chris lives in, I'd love to see him go down HARD, but... --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 18:46, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

* That sucks! >_< I'm going to try anyway though. Even if it ends in failure like all the rest, I can at least say that I tried instead of idly paying for Chris's blowup dolls and video games. I will contact all three of the things I listed (Congress, the SSA, the VEC), and hopefully one of them will maybe turn an eye towards this. [[User:Cadpig|- Cadpig]] 18:53, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
:* Go ahead and take your shot. There's nothing to lose here except Chris's check. On the other side, Please note that you are not going against a single diagnostic (the '04 papers) but every public official, including teachers, who have dealt with Chris in the past. This will also includes bureaucracy inertia who prefer to be lazily wrong than taking steps to makes things right. I have my personal take on this; Chris is taking "blood" money? This makes this site moral. I will never laugh at a mentally deficient person working a menial job because that person is carrying his own weight. Chris on the other side... [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:42, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

You tea party kids can very well try, but I doubt you're going to fulfill your fantasy and get someone kicked off of state assistance. When you have affidavits on your side, it's quite difficult to get them rescinded. But by all means, try. [[User:TheInfendoNut|TheInfendoNut]] 10:01, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

At the risk of sounding like a white knight, I have one question to ask of everyone who thinks Chris is unnecessarily sponging off the state and could hold a job if he wanted to: would YOU even remotely consider hiring him? I sure as fuck would not either.[[User:Senzuri|Senzuri]] 15:00, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

:*No, but Chris isn't unemployable because of his autism or any genetic, biological factor. He is unemployable because of his actions and nothing more. I can't honestly find sympathy for someone who's laziness, theft, dishonesty and disregard for legitimate authority have lead to the creation of a wiki dedicated to studying him (and with over 1,000 articles now to boot). Nobody made Chris unemployable but Chris. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 03:21, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Give me a break, it's a couple of hundred of dollars each months. Yeah, it's stuff that could be used to feed the poor, but so could the money you guys use to pay for your internet connection. As this is one of the things that Chris does that actually negatively affects people, I feel like it's one of the major things people attempt to scapegoat him with and justify their lulzy levels of RAGEEEEE. [[User:Chaosakita|Chaosakita]] 07:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Don't bother trying to get rid of the tugboat. You can't, you won't, it won't happen. You don't have demonstrable proof that Chris is faking his autism, for example. Never going to happen. Enjoy knowing that taxpayers are not only going to contribute a million dollars (quite literally) to Chris over his lifetime through the tugboat... and don't forget, Chris also gets food stamps every month too (not factored into that million). [[User:Elephant|Elephant]] 17:08, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the tugboat is voided if you are tried for treason, so lets mail the 9/11 video to the Virginia government and see if we can get him branded as a traitor.--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 22:15, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:Government mail servers are so inundated with e-mail that I doubt that they would ever see it, but the reaction would be quite lulzy if they ever do watch it. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 22:48, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
::I bet nothing will get out of it even if they watch the tape. Chris is a certified Nut-Job. Then, there's the whole "Freedom Of Speech" that applies right there. So, unless Chris leaks nuclear technological secrets to North-Korea, He's pretty dandy with the Treason laws of the U.S. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 23:10, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:Damn, some of you guys really want him off his tugboat. [[User:TheInfendoNut|TheInfendoNut]] 22:12, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

:SSDI is a federal, not a state program. If you want him off it, use this form: https://www.socialsecurity.gov/oig/public_fraud_reporting/form.htm. We want him off of it because it's much lulzier if he has to find a job. Right now he's not doing anything interesting, just sitting in his room playing PS3. SSDI's requirements are fairly strict and in fact the vast majority of people who apply are rejected, so Chris being on the tugboat does demonstrably hurt people who are far needier than he. And there's a chance at getting his case re-evaluated if enough of us submit the form. I submitted one as a representative of "People for Welfare Transparency." A few more like that and there's a chance, however slim, that we can get the ball rolling.

"The sequence for adults is: 1. Is the claimant performing a Substantial Gainful Activity? If yes, deny. If no, continue to next sequence. 2. Is the claimant's impairment severe? If no, deny. If yes, continue to next sequence. 3. Does the impairment meet or equal the severity of impairments in the Listing of Impairments? .[2] If yes, allow the claim. If no, continue to next sequence. 4. Is the claimant able to perform past work? If yes, deny. If no continue to next sequence. 5. Is the claimant able to perform any work in the economy? If yes, deny. If no allow the claim."
In other words, NO FUCKING WAY Chris qualifies.
[[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 22:46, 3 September 2010 (PDT)

In the state of California at least, the 'monthly tugboat' averages out at about $825-$850. If California's process is standard for the rest of the country, (which it should be, because it's a federal program) he has to go in for re-evaluations or they'll stop payments. In other words: Once his parents kick off, he's almost certain to lose his funding since he is too much of a stupid fuck to do the paperwork or act like a human being during interviews. Plus, he'd most likely be too lazy to even go to the meetings. -R

== Are you guys crazy? ==
To everyone who wants Chris to lose his monthly tugboat, get a real job etc. I have just one question for you? Why on Earth, given everything we know about CWC would you want him in the work force.

Imagine that Chris did lose his tugboat, and had to get a real job, (and by some miracle was able to hold it). Imagine then, that one day you walk into the Charlottesville Taco Bell, only to find Chris behind the counter. What is your reaction? Do you say "Hey Chris, good to see you working, I'll have three soft tacos?" Or do you instead run out of the store and call the Va health department?

tl;dr it's not welfare, it's a government program to spare people the unpleasantness of dealing the effects of Chris-Chan in the work force.
[[User:aclevertitle|aclevertitle]]

Retards, psychos, ex-cons, etc can all get jobs. The jobs they get are pretty rough- fruit picking, stacking shelves, doing stock audits- but there are plenty of jobs available for the otherwise unemployable. They're extremely strictly supervised and remarkably un-fun, but they exist. Chris could do one of those... but as I said (way, way up higher on this page), I doubt Chris could even do those. He'd just simply refuse. Chris made himself unemployable. Nobody else. If someone chooses to make themselves unemployable through their actions, I don't really have a lot of sympathy for them. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 20:07, 7 August 2010 (PDT)
:This, and the CWCki editors aren't the first people to speak out against welfare abuse. I can't speak for Virginia, but here in Minnesota, I've worked at tax-subsidized sort of make-work centers. At this one place, criminals, immigrants, and retards (such as me) filled manufacturing and packaging orders for companies which would usually be done by machines or illegals or something. Like, for a couple weeks I sat there and unwound coils of rubberized, like, magnets that tore off in little squares (like [http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/Flexible-Magnetic-Strip-2VAH6?cm_mmc=Google%20Base-_-Hardware-_-Clamps-_-2VAH6 this] except sort of perforated every few inches), two squares each, like 10,000 times a day.

:Anyway, point is this is the kind of place you find working with state and county social services to find employment. This isn't the kind of place Joe Neurotypical works for. This isn't the kind of place CWCki editors work for. Frankly, I'm getting the impression that a lot of CWCki editors just don't know a lot about this kind of thing. I don't mean to come down on other people here. I mean, I'm sure you all don't know less than the public at large, but I think we can all agree that works for the public at large doesn't work for Chris.

:"Someone's already thought of that" is all I'm trying to say. Not a panacea, not a sure thing, not magic, but there are ways. —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 22:24, 7 August 2010 (PDT)
I do agree and obviously you have a better insight than I into this (I don't even live in America, nor even the northern hemisphere). I readily accept Chris has autism and could easily settle for a less than extraordinary life. Hell, if Chris can find himself a normal job such as stacking shelves or whatever then he'd have a fair bit of respect from me. He would have accomplished something which exceeds his limitations. I would imagine the trolling would, eventually, dry up too (over years and years). Chris could live a reasonably normal life. But... he doesn't want that. He wants everything give directly to him for no effort at all. Rather than accepting his limitations and working to better himself, he believes he has a billion fans simply because he made something. Neurotypical or not, that doesn't fly with me. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 23:22, 7 August 2010 (PDT)
*I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. Chris has the potential to have a, albeit very awkward, normal life. But that's probably why so many of us are here, because he has the potential but not the desire to be normal because he thinks he is special. If he got and kept a job and kept his internet presence to a minimum, I'd probably start to feel bad about people trolling him.--[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 08:11, 8 August 2010 (PDT)

== Can someone explain this to me in Chris's terms? ==

"Even if this weren't enough, the most cursory research reveals that an SSDI recipient could have earned from $700 dollars a month in the year 2000, when Chris was 18, to $1000 dollars a month in 2010 without losing a cent of their SSDI income."

I'm not entirely sure how this works. Exactly, what did Bob do to screw Chris over? --[[User:AntonImaus|AntonImaus]] 00:18, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
: Whether Bob "screwed Chris over" is kind of a matter of perspective, but it works like this. If an SSDI beneficiary works a real job and makes enough money, they will receive reduced benefits according to how much actual income they earn. However, there's a threshold that has to be reached before that reduction starts happening, which is what that quote describes. Chris could get a job and earn as much as a grand a month before the government started docking his monthly SSDI check (and he'd have to earn a lot more than that before they stopped giving him any SSDI money at all). So the argument would be that Bob has misled Chris to his detriment by convincing him that if he works, he won't make as much money as he brings in just by waiting for his SSDI checks. The counter-argument would be that Bob still has two brain cells to rub together and knows that sending Chris into the workforce would just mean eventually having to deal with another court date. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 02:40, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
::Alright, I should know how this works but it seems more clear now. Thanks. --[[User:AntonImaus|AntonImaus]] 19:06, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

Talk:Monthly tugboat

2010-09-04T05:46:35Z

Sygerrik: /* This is bullshit */

==To do==
*Chris's references to his monthly tugboat (see Smithey e-mails and Miyamoto e-mails).

----

Random Thought: Since Chris gets paid from welfare out of our pockets, are we not paying for him entertaining us? It seems like a fair exchange for me. If anything, Chris should be thanking us (and everyone else who is an USAfag and pays taxes) for keeping him and his creepy obsessions alive. Since I have to pay for him, I want to get every cent worth from this lolcow. --[[User:Wild Sonichu|Wild Sonichu]] 04:33, 12 May 2009 (CEST)

==Disambiguation==
'Monthly Tugboat' shoud just contain the definition and the times he's used the word, we shoud create another page titled 'Chris and Money' --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 01:38, 20 May 2009 (CEST)

I liek both the above ideas. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 17:22, 30 May 2009 (CEST)

==$800,$750?==

I've noticed that some pages say that his tugboat is $750 and others saying that it's $800. Does anyone have evidence to show which value it is?([[User:Drlugae|Drlugae]] 19:25, 21 July 2009 (CEST))
*The thing is, Chris has said about three different values. I believe he's said "$800" so let's try and find a citation for that. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:48, 21 July 2009 (CEST)
*The tugboat rises in value each year so long as cost of living increases, so it's definitely over $800. $750 might be an old number from a few years back. [[User:Elephant|Elephant]] 17:06, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

==State or federal?==
Is the welfare program chris leeches off of paid for by all taxpayers or just the ones in virginia? [[User:V3N0M1300|V3N0M1300]] 21:18, 28 September 2009 (CEST)
*It's social security. So it's federal. And it is somehow arranged through Bob's SSN. Details as to how this works exactly are fuzzy. But it isn't typical state welfare. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:01, 28 September 2009 (CEST)
:*It needs to be reiterated that this is not a welfare check but a disability check. It is a form of government welfare, but it is not welfare in a "you don't need to work" sort of way but that he has managed to establish he has a disability (namely autism) that prevents him from maintaining or keeping work. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:29, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

== On Advice of Bob? ==

Is there a source of where this came from? If it came from Chris I feel it may be a point to make that this may be Chris' point of view on the matter and may not reflect the truth. --[[User:El Presidente|El Presidente]] 12:14, 3 November 2009 (CET)

== This is bullshit ==

As an American citizen who has a job (albeit a crappy job, but it's still a job) I feel cheated that some of my money may potentially be going to this manchild, not to mention I think it would be lulzy to see Chris lose everything.

Who would I go about contacting to get a re-evaluation of Chris's condition as relating to his monthly disability checks? I'm not denying that he has problems (as that should be very obvious), but I think that he is highly-functioning enough for wellfare to be unwarranted (he likely put that his autism hampers his social skills and thus renders him unfit for work, his large Internet presence is proof enough that this is bullshit).

The only record of his autism is that 2004 paper which, for reasons as mentioned in it's article is not really a good analysis of Chris's condition, so if they decide to investigate it would be most likely mandantory for them to get a fresh opinion. Also, this page (which will eventually surface in any search of CWC, most likely Chris will mention it himself) shows all the money wasted by Chris, and is damning evidence IMO (though CWCki being a semi-biased third-party, there will be concerns about legitimacy, and obviously Chris will decry "HACKERS").

There would also be concerns from the CWCkians that even if Chris were to fail a reevaluation and be forced to look for jobs, that he could simply say no one will hire him and get unemployment without actually trying to apply. I would think, however, that the Virginia employment commission would keep tabs on his case, and contact the employers for their confirmation of their refusal to hire Chris (I live in Texas and have been through 2 jobs, the workforce here DOES keep tabs on you like that. In my case it wasn't about abusing the system, but just confirming that I found another employer (whom they had previously called unbeknownst to me), so I'm basing my assumption of how the system works off of this experience).

Another underlying theme I'm getting from the article and the comments (though I may be fucking up the context) is that the arrangement Chris has now may not be 100% legal, which could lead to extra lulz.

Also, the 9/11 videos would maybe show that Chris has no respect for the government and only exists to exploit it.

I am serious about doing this as not only would this potentially direct my tax money to someone who needs it (or another leech amirite :P ) but it would also be a welcome kick into reality for Chris. The only problem is that I don't know exactly who to contact, should I write to my Congressman, to the Social Security Administration, or to the Virginia Employment Commission directly?

I apologize if this has been asked before, I'm a n00b plus I haven't seen anything about it here.

tl;dr: hey guyz, let's sink Chris's tugboat :3 [[User:Cadpig|- Cadpig]] 18:32, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
* From what I've understood, other people have tried to get the State to get Chris's tugboat revoked and have failed. Apparently, the state doesn't care about Chris blowing our hard earned money.
: Trust me, as a citizen of the same state Chris lives in, I'd love to see him go down HARD, but... --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 18:46, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

* That sucks! >_< I'm going to try anyway though. Even if it ends in failure like all the rest, I can at least say that I tried instead of idly paying for Chris's blowup dolls and video games. I will contact all three of the things I listed (Congress, the SSA, the VEC), and hopefully one of them will maybe turn an eye towards this. [[User:Cadpig|- Cadpig]] 18:53, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
:* Go ahead and take your shot. There's nothing to lose here except Chris's check. On the other side, Please note that you are not going against a single diagnostic (the '04 papers) but every public official, including teachers, who have dealt with Chris in the past. This will also includes bureaucracy inertia who prefer to be lazily wrong than taking steps to makes things right. I have my personal take on this; Chris is taking "blood" money? This makes this site moral. I will never laugh at a mentally deficient person working a menial job because that person is carrying his own weight. Chris on the other side... [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:42, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

You tea party kids can very well try, but I doubt you're going to fulfill your fantasy and get someone kicked off of state assistance. When you have affidavits on your side, it's quite difficult to get them rescinded. But by all means, try. [[User:TheInfendoNut|TheInfendoNut]] 10:01, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

At the risk of sounding like a white knight, I have one question to ask of everyone who thinks Chris is unnecessarily sponging off the state and could hold a job if he wanted to: would YOU even remotely consider hiring him? I sure as fuck would not either.[[User:Senzuri|Senzuri]] 15:00, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

:*No, but Chris isn't unemployable because of his autism or any genetic, biological factor. He is unemployable because of his actions and nothing more. I can't honestly find sympathy for someone who's laziness, theft, dishonesty and disregard for legitimate authority have lead to the creation of a wiki dedicated to studying him (and with over 1,000 articles now to boot). Nobody made Chris unemployable but Chris. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 03:21, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Give me a break, it's a couple of hundred of dollars each months. Yeah, it's stuff that could be used to feed the poor, but so could the money you guys use to pay for your internet connection. As this is one of the things that Chris does that actually negatively affects people, I feel like it's one of the major things people attempt to scapegoat him with and justify their lulzy levels of RAGEEEEE. [[User:Chaosakita|Chaosakita]] 07:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Don't bother trying to get rid of the tugboat. You can't, you won't, it won't happen. You don't have demonstrable proof that Chris is faking his autism, for example. Never going to happen. Enjoy knowing that taxpayers are not only going to contribute a million dollars (quite literally) to Chris over his lifetime through the tugboat... and don't forget, Chris also gets food stamps every month too (not factored into that million). [[User:Elephant|Elephant]] 17:08, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the tugboat is voided if you are tried for treason, so lets mail the 9/11 video to the Virginia government and see if we can get him branded as a traitor.--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 22:15, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:Government mail servers are so inundated with e-mail that I doubt that they would ever see it, but the reaction would be quite lulzy if they ever do watch it. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 22:48, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
::I bet nothing will get out of it even if they watch the tape. Chris is a certified Nut-Job. Then, there's the whole "Freedom Of Speech" that applies right there. So, unless Chris leaks nuclear technological secrets to North-Korea, He's pretty dandy with the Treason laws of the U.S. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 23:10, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:Damn, some of you guys really want him off his tugboat. [[User:TheInfendoNut|TheInfendoNut]] 22:12, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

:SSDI is a federal, not a state program. If you want him off it, use this form: https://www.socialsecurity.gov/oig/public_fraud_reporting/form.htm. We want him off of it because it's much lulzier if he has to find a job. Right now he's not doing anything interesting, just sitting in his room playing PS3. SSDI's requirements are fairly strict and in fact the vast majority of people who apply are rejected, so Chris being on the tugboat does demonstrably hurt people who are far needier than he. And there's a chance at getting his case re-evaluated if enough of us submit the form. I submitted one as a representative of "People for Welfare Transparency." A few more like that and there's a chance, however slim, that we can get the ball rolling. [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 22:46, 3 September 2010 (PDT)

In the state of California at least, the 'monthly tugboat' averages out at about $825-$850. If California's process is standard for the rest of the country, (which it should be, because it's a federal program) he has to go in for re-evaluations or they'll stop payments. In other words: Once his parents kick off, he's almost certain to lose his funding since he is too much of a stupid fuck to do the paperwork or act like a human being during interviews. Plus, he'd most likely be too lazy to even go to the meetings. -R

== Are you guys crazy? ==
To everyone who wants Chris to lose his monthly tugboat, get a real job etc. I have just one question for you? Why on Earth, given everything we know about CWC would you want him in the work force.

Imagine that Chris did lose his tugboat, and had to get a real job, (and by some miracle was able to hold it). Imagine then, that one day you walk into the Charlottesville Taco Bell, only to find Chris behind the counter. What is your reaction? Do you say "Hey Chris, good to see you working, I'll have three soft tacos?" Or do you instead run out of the store and call the Va health department?

tl;dr it's not welfare, it's a government program to spare people the unpleasantness of dealing the effects of Chris-Chan in the work force.
[[User:aclevertitle|aclevertitle]]

Retards, psychos, ex-cons, etc can all get jobs. The jobs they get are pretty rough- fruit picking, stacking shelves, doing stock audits- but there are plenty of jobs available for the otherwise unemployable. They're extremely strictly supervised and remarkably un-fun, but they exist. Chris could do one of those... but as I said (way, way up higher on this page), I doubt Chris could even do those. He'd just simply refuse. Chris made himself unemployable. Nobody else. If someone chooses to make themselves unemployable through their actions, I don't really have a lot of sympathy for them. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 20:07, 7 August 2010 (PDT)
:This, and the CWCki editors aren't the first people to speak out against welfare abuse. I can't speak for Virginia, but here in Minnesota, I've worked at tax-subsidized sort of make-work centers. At this one place, criminals, immigrants, and retards (such as me) filled manufacturing and packaging orders for companies which would usually be done by machines or illegals or something. Like, for a couple weeks I sat there and unwound coils of rubberized, like, magnets that tore off in little squares (like [http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/Flexible-Magnetic-Strip-2VAH6?cm_mmc=Google%20Base-_-Hardware-_-Clamps-_-2VAH6 this] except sort of perforated every few inches), two squares each, like 10,000 times a day.

:Anyway, point is this is the kind of place you find working with state and county social services to find employment. This isn't the kind of place Joe Neurotypical works for. This isn't the kind of place CWCki editors work for. Frankly, I'm getting the impression that a lot of CWCki editors just don't know a lot about this kind of thing. I don't mean to come down on other people here. I mean, I'm sure you all don't know less than the public at large, but I think we can all agree that works for the public at large doesn't work for Chris.

:"Someone's already thought of that" is all I'm trying to say. Not a panacea, not a sure thing, not magic, but there are ways. —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 22:24, 7 August 2010 (PDT)
I do agree and obviously you have a better insight than I into this (I don't even live in America, nor even the northern hemisphere). I readily accept Chris has autism and could easily settle for a less than extraordinary life. Hell, if Chris can find himself a normal job such as stacking shelves or whatever then he'd have a fair bit of respect from me. He would have accomplished something which exceeds his limitations. I would imagine the trolling would, eventually, dry up too (over years and years). Chris could live a reasonably normal life. But... he doesn't want that. He wants everything give directly to him for no effort at all. Rather than accepting his limitations and working to better himself, he believes he has a billion fans simply because he made something. Neurotypical or not, that doesn't fly with me. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 23:22, 7 August 2010 (PDT)
*I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. Chris has the potential to have a, albeit very awkward, normal life. But that's probably why so many of us are here, because he has the potential but not the desire to be normal because he thinks he is special. If he got and kept a job and kept his internet presence to a minimum, I'd probably start to feel bad about people trolling him.--[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 08:11, 8 August 2010 (PDT)

== Can someone explain this to me in Chris's terms? ==

"Even if this weren't enough, the most cursory research reveals that an SSDI recipient could have earned from $700 dollars a month in the year 2000, when Chris was 18, to $1000 dollars a month in 2010 without losing a cent of their SSDI income."

I'm not entirely sure how this works. Exactly, what did Bob do to screw Chris over? --[[User:AntonImaus|AntonImaus]] 00:18, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
: Whether Bob "screwed Chris over" is kind of a matter of perspective, but it works like this. If an SSDI beneficiary works a real job and makes enough money, they will receive reduced benefits according to how much actual income they earn. However, there's a threshold that has to be reached before that reduction starts happening, which is what that quote describes. Chris could get a job and earn as much as a grand a month before the government started docking his monthly SSDI check (and he'd have to earn a lot more than that before they stopped giving him any SSDI money at all). So the argument would be that Bob has misled Chris to his detriment by convincing him that if he works, he won't make as much money as he brings in just by waiting for his SSDI checks. The counter-argument would be that Bob still has two brain cells to rub together and knows that sending Chris into the workforce would just mean eventually having to deal with another court date. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 02:40, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
::Alright, I should know how this works but it seems more clear now. Thanks. --[[User:AntonImaus|AntonImaus]] 19:06, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

Talk:PS3

2010-09-03T23:37:09Z

Sygerrik:

== Every single purchase/download (as of feb 23 2010 ==

http://www.mediafire.com/?jym1gjw3gnf

YOU WILL KILL YOURSELVES TRYING TO ANALYZE THIS [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 07:32, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
* oh man. I am gonna have to steel myself a bit before I tackle that shit. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 13:06, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:* Aaaand I think I got it all. Now I will be depressed for the rest of the day. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 15:43, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

==To do==
*Chris's fanboy faggotry with PS3 (ultimate life upgrade, etc.)
*Make available a log of his PSN purchases.
*Make reference to credit card theft.

Is there a way to look up Playstation Network stats (e.g. trophies) while not on the PSN? [[User:Ensign disposable|Ensign disposable]] 01:50, 17 July 2009 (CEST)
: The folks at /_cwc/ hinted that [http://profiles.us.playstation.com/playstation/psn/profiles/Sonichu nowadays we can]. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 15:30, 11 September 2009 (CEST)

* Chain these links together for his entire DLC purchases.
http://outerheaven.pastebin.com/f5736ffdd
http://outerheaven.pastebin.com/f277fb9e2
http://outerheaven2.pastebin.com/m26fb6764

http://outerheaven2.pastebin.com/f61a9b739 (his ALT usa account when he was hacked the second time)

uh yeah. this is pretty much the only thing that matters. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 09:56, 20 October 2009 (CEST)

* stats: total $2485.89 (dlc only not including hardware/software/game discs/umds...etc...chris's list of games for that info...so...)
634 total things (2 being tax from troll purchases when hacked first time post-julie)
1 29.99
1 24.99
4 19.99
1 17.99
6 14.99
2 12.99
2 11.99
33 9.99 (1 troll purchase made here)
1 8.99
7 7.99
4 6.99
14 6.25
79 5.99 (1 troll purchase made here)
1 5.50
42 5.49
40 4.99
20 3.99
1 3.49
60 2.99
6 2.49
203 1.99
1 1.49
81 .99
1 .66 (troll tax)
19 .49
1 .42 (troll tax)
3 .15

yeah. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 10:21, 20 October 2009 (CEST)

== I've got to say something ==

...he does have a ton of 100%s here, which does make me sorta little bit hexbox-green with envy. Though most of them seem to be from games with only a few trophies (closer to the 200-gamerscore arcade games in XBL). ''And'' a few of these look like pretty simple games. But still, surprisingly many, considering the fact that just a few months ago there were ''three'' games in the list with 100%.

Sincerely, just a random guy in the last stages of of grinding his way to 1200 G in ''Mass Effect'', --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 20:07, 2 December 2009 (CET)
:I wouldn't feel too bad about it. Considering his..."performance" in the various Youtube videos of him playing Soul Calibur or Little Big Planet, I sincerely doubt he actually platinum'ed anything himself. More likely, he just downloaded a save file from GameFAQs (or wherever). -[[User:Schismtracer|Schismtracer]] 23:25, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

==Friend Limit MAXIMUM!==
Chris' friend limit is at the max on his PSN account. Does he have another one so he can still stay in contact with his 'fans'? Also, how do I get his LPB levels HOW DID I GET HERE OH GOD I AM NO GOOD WITH COMPUTER
*The only way I know is to go on LittleBigPlanet and search Sonichu and you're guaranteed to find his levels. And don't forget to do your signature, btw. It's one of those buttons in the middle of the set right on top of this box. --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 04:10, 3 January 2010 (CET)

== I've gotta be honest ==
I was expecting a NOGAEMS joke somewhere in the article. [[User:Dann Woolf|Dann Woolf]] 20:07, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
*If there's no direct link to Chris, expect it wouldn't be there. It's a way to keep the blubber away. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 20:23, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

== Does Chris have a fat or slim PS3? ==
I'm sure he had a fat one but knowing Chris, he probably bought the slim too. If he does indeed use the fat one, was he not affected by the PSN clock death thing that happened recently? [[User:Dave|Dave]]
*it probably was affected but it didn't matter as the problem is fixed. he bought it when it first came out so he has a fat one. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 07:30, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

==Chris's game of the month==

This section is to inform people about the game Chris is currently playing the most for the month, for example a the last two seem to have been spent playing Heavy Rain and God Of War III, well this month Chris has revealed to the world that he's got his hands on the aclaimed sandbox game Infamous.[[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 18:52, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
*That makes too much sense--he's probably playing it right now, pretending that it's actually the Sonichu game.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 22:29, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
** Yeah or he's pretending the gang members are his trolls and the leaders of them are, Blue Spike, Liquid Chris, and Clyde Cash respectevly.[[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 23:26, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
***Ah fuck. I liked Infamous! --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 23:31, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
**** I do to, but I'm stuck on the level where you're supposed to protect Trish's bus.

Some of us have him friended on the PSN, right? Would it be possible for us to keep track of Chris's total time spent using the PS3 each month? Also, I can't see the individual trophies on his PSN profile--I assume that's just the site fucking up.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:41, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

* What I do is compare trophies.-- [[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 00:14, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
** Also I have sent him a friend request a fews months back, he hasn't responded.-- [[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 00:15, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== Trophies and achievements ==

I was wondering: Since Chris seems to be such a trophy junkie, is he aware of the fact that the idea of trophies is heavily inspired by the "hexbox 360's" achievements? Has he ever mentioned anything about it? --[[User:Shotaru|Shotaru]] 15:55, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

==PlayStation Plus==
Do we know if Chris has subscribed to the new $50 service yet?--[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 03:13, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

==PS3 Destruction Video==
Chris mentioned that the PS3 still went into standby mode after he pounded and run over the console. Is it possible that Chris's problem was something other than a network issue? It sounds like the PS3 might have YLODed. --[[User:Captkrisma|Captkrisma]] 18:45, 29 August 2010 (PDT)

== Actual effects of reformatting ==

I don't have a PS3, so I'm kind of asking someone more knowledgeable to ramble about this in the article: How much did the reformatting actually affect Chris? I thought the worst that happened to him was that he lost his savegames and LBP/MN stuff he hadn't uploaded yet, and he could just re-download the purchases and the mod content he had uploaded to the servers. Another thing: What about the older HDs? Would he have had a chance to recover some of his stuff from there, or does the data-transfer process wipe the old stuff? (I don't see why it ''should'' do a crazy thing like that, but hey, consoles are weird sometimes.) --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 00:55, 31 August 2010 (PDT)
:Yes, purchased content could easily be redownloaded and anything he uploaded to the network would still be there. To my knowledge, upgrading the hard drive does not require you to wipe the old one, but I've never done it so I don't know for sure. If his older data was still on the HDs, it sure isn't now. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 09:33, 31 August 2010 (PDT)

== Yes he has a new one ==
Fuck me. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 10:03, 2 September 2010 (PDT)
:Yeah, like nobody saw that coming. --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 12:39, 2 September 2010 (PDT)
:Do you know what he's doing with the rest of the $9001? --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 12:48, 2 September 2010 (PDT)

== lolWUT ==
The current revision of the article as I speak has this oddity:

<blockquote>"It was revealed through a series of e-mails that Chris had destroyed his beloved Life Upgrade in an attempt to cash in on a troll reward. However, to the surprise of none, he didn't think through this idea more, not even realizing that he had destroyed an item that could have netted him a lot more than the prize he sought."
</blockquote>

The PS3 and games cost Chris somewhere in the vicinity of $3500, a fact that is mentioned in a lot of places on this site. $3500 is just a little over half of the troll prize ($9001). Resale value for games is never a matter of making profit, it's about breaking even. You're not going to see $3500 again, especially not with a used PS3 and Chris's relatively small stack of used games. It's a miracle to make back your investment.

Even on eBay, you're only going to profit if you have the latest and greatest console during the first month of the launch and said console can't easily be found in stores. Even that has it's limits though usually only a couple hundred more than retail. The only way you can truly profit in the above-$5000 range is if you sell your whole game library (which obviously needs to be massive) or if you have a rarity like an RDI Halcyon prototype or a NeoGeo AES with a sizable stack of games.

I read the email, and nothing was mentioned about another reward for the intact PS3, much less a $9K< reward so what kind of acidcrack was the revision writer on suggesting you could get bookoo (buukuu? beaucoup?) money for Chris's PS3? [[User:Cadpig|- Cadpig]] 15:18, 3 September 2010 (PDT)

: I'm fairly certain that the intention was to get him to destroy his PS3 since he's a greedy sumbitch. - [[User:Captainhowdy|Captainhowdy]] 15:23, 3 September 2010 (PDT)

:: Captainhowdy? Try Captainobvious, or maybe even NoShitSherlock.¬_¬ Some editor said that Chris could have made more money with an intact PS3, which is bullshit. If it was just a false statement to troll Chris further, what good did it do? He doesn't read the CWCki religiously, he'll never know! I'm just bitching about stupid shit, I'd remove it myself but you never know what needs to stay and what needs to go article-wise when it comes to this place. We all know the intent of the trolls, I'm just pointing out a blatant research failure one of them made. [[User:Cadpig|- Cadpig]] 15:29, 3 September 2010 (PDT)
::: The reason that shit was put in is because there was a troll reward for $9001 dollars that Chris was trying to cash in on. Just like it says in the article. It has nothing to do with selling anything. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 15:39, 3 September 2010 (PDT)
:::: Goddamn, dude, NO SHIT. Do you see the last line in the quoted section? WTF is it there for? IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE IN THE CONTEXT OF THE TROLL! THAT'S WHY I WENT ON A TANGENT! I would delete it, but you never know article standards here, if that terrible "ghettogangsta nigga" style coffee-place siting article can't be deleted, who knows about this? Shit man, read the quoted section above, see if you can clarify it. Because both of you have done jack shit in that area so far. If I can't get a reason as to why it's there by tomorrow, I'm going to quit fucking around and delete it myself. Shit. [[User:Cadpig|- Cadpig]] 15:45, 3 September 2010 (PDT)
::::: Herp derp, im not a troll derp. I read what you wrote and it's a valid point. The sensible thing to do would be to edit it out and say why in the summary, not rant on the talk page and make someone else fix it. Make it so. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 15:47, 3 September 2010 (PDT)
::::: Also, as for the "both of you have done jack shit in that area so far", this is my second account. If you're looking for my contributions, look at [[Special:Contributions/Thelieisacake|this shit.]] [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 15:50, 3 September 2010 (PDT)
:::::: My bad, I get what you're saying. I was just unsure of what we can and can't edit (Clyde threw down the hammer when it came to that dude wanting to edit that terribly-written coffee place article). I'mma deleting it now. Sorry I flew off the handle, it was slow-in-the-mind of me. We can delete this whole thread if you want. EDIT: I like what you did. Good job. Y'know it's too bad Clyde doesn't really have $9001, he could give it to Cogs so CWCki would have a server that doesn't crash more than a narcoleptic.[[User:Cadpig|- Cadpig]] 15:54, 3 September 2010 (PDT)
:::::::Don't worry about it, shit happens. If Clyde were to flip shit for no reason, he wouldn't be a mod for long. As long as you can justify your edits, they will stay. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 15:58, 3 September 2010 (PDT)
:::::::It astonishes me how many people don't understand the value of the Coffee Place article or its submitter. It's a fine piece of fieldwork from one of our best trolls. And it should be extremely obvious from even a cursory reading why. [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 16:36, 3 September 2010 (PDT)

Talk:PS3

2010-09-03T23:36:39Z

Sygerrik: /* lolWUT */

== Every single purchase/download (as of feb 23 2010 ==

http://www.mediafire.com/?jym1gjw3gnf

YOU WILL KILL YOURSELVES TRYING TO ANALYZE THIS [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 07:32, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
* oh man. I am gonna have to steel myself a bit before I tackle that shit. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 13:06, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:* Aaaand I think I got it all. Now I will be depressed for the rest of the day. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 15:43, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

==To do==
*Chris's fanboy faggotry with PS3 (ultimate life upgrade, etc.)
*Make available a log of his PSN purchases.
*Make reference to credit card theft.

Is there a way to look up Playstation Network stats (e.g. trophies) while not on the PSN? [[User:Ensign disposable|Ensign disposable]] 01:50, 17 July 2009 (CEST)
: The folks at /_cwc/ hinted that [http://profiles.us.playstation.com/playstation/psn/profiles/Sonichu nowadays we can]. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 15:30, 11 September 2009 (CEST)

* Chain these links together for his entire DLC purchases.
http://outerheaven.pastebin.com/f5736ffdd
http://outerheaven.pastebin.com/f277fb9e2
http://outerheaven2.pastebin.com/m26fb6764

http://outerheaven2.pastebin.com/f61a9b739 (his ALT usa account when he was hacked the second time)

uh yeah. this is pretty much the only thing that matters. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 09:56, 20 October 2009 (CEST)

* stats: total $2485.89 (dlc only not including hardware/software/game discs/umds...etc...chris's list of games for that info...so...)
634 total things (2 being tax from troll purchases when hacked first time post-julie)
1 29.99
1 24.99
4 19.99
1 17.99
6 14.99
2 12.99
2 11.99
33 9.99 (1 troll purchase made here)
1 8.99
7 7.99
4 6.99
14 6.25
79 5.99 (1 troll purchase made here)
1 5.50
42 5.49
40 4.99
20 3.99
1 3.49
60 2.99
6 2.49
203 1.99
1 1.49
81 .99
1 .66 (troll tax)
19 .49
1 .42 (troll tax)
3 .15

yeah. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 10:21, 20 October 2009 (CEST)

== I've got to say something ==

...he does have a ton of 100%s here, which does make me sorta little bit hexbox-green with envy. Though most of them seem to be from games with only a few trophies (closer to the 200-gamerscore arcade games in XBL). ''And'' a few of these look like pretty simple games. But still, surprisingly many, considering the fact that just a few months ago there were ''three'' games in the list with 100%.

Sincerely, just a random guy in the last stages of of grinding his way to 1200 G in ''Mass Effect'', --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 20:07, 2 December 2009 (CET)
:I wouldn't feel too bad about it. Considering his..."performance" in the various Youtube videos of him playing Soul Calibur or Little Big Planet, I sincerely doubt he actually platinum'ed anything himself. More likely, he just downloaded a save file from GameFAQs (or wherever). -[[User:Schismtracer|Schismtracer]] 23:25, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

==Friend Limit MAXIMUM!==
Chris' friend limit is at the max on his PSN account. Does he have another one so he can still stay in contact with his 'fans'? Also, how do I get his LPB levels HOW DID I GET HERE OH GOD I AM NO GOOD WITH COMPUTER
*The only way I know is to go on LittleBigPlanet and search Sonichu and you're guaranteed to find his levels. And don't forget to do your signature, btw. It's one of those buttons in the middle of the set right on top of this box. --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 04:10, 3 January 2010 (CET)

== I've gotta be honest ==
I was expecting a NOGAEMS joke somewhere in the article. [[User:Dann Woolf|Dann Woolf]] 20:07, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
*If there's no direct link to Chris, expect it wouldn't be there. It's a way to keep the blubber away. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 20:23, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

== Does Chris have a fat or slim PS3? ==
I'm sure he had a fat one but knowing Chris, he probably bought the slim too. If he does indeed use the fat one, was he not affected by the PSN clock death thing that happened recently? [[User:Dave|Dave]]
*it probably was affected but it didn't matter as the problem is fixed. he bought it when it first came out so he has a fat one. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 07:30, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

==Chris's game of the month==

This section is to inform people about the game Chris is currently playing the most for the month, for example a the last two seem to have been spent playing Heavy Rain and God Of War III, well this month Chris has revealed to the world that he's got his hands on the aclaimed sandbox game Infamous.[[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 18:52, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
*That makes too much sense--he's probably playing it right now, pretending that it's actually the Sonichu game.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 22:29, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
** Yeah or he's pretending the gang members are his trolls and the leaders of them are, Blue Spike, Liquid Chris, and Clyde Cash respectevly.[[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 23:26, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
***Ah fuck. I liked Infamous! --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 23:31, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
**** I do to, but I'm stuck on the level where you're supposed to protect Trish's bus.

Some of us have him friended on the PSN, right? Would it be possible for us to keep track of Chris's total time spent using the PS3 each month? Also, I can't see the individual trophies on his PSN profile--I assume that's just the site fucking up.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:41, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

* What I do is compare trophies.-- [[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 00:14, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
** Also I have sent him a friend request a fews months back, he hasn't responded.-- [[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 00:15, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== Trophies and achievements ==

I was wondering: Since Chris seems to be such a trophy junkie, is he aware of the fact that the idea of trophies is heavily inspired by the "hexbox 360's" achievements? Has he ever mentioned anything about it? --[[User:Shotaru|Shotaru]] 15:55, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

==PlayStation Plus==
Do we know if Chris has subscribed to the new $50 service yet?--[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 03:13, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

==PS3 Destruction Video==
Chris mentioned that the PS3 still went into standby mode after he pounded and run over the console. Is it possible that Chris's problem was something other than a network issue? It sounds like the PS3 might have YLODed. --[[User:Captkrisma|Captkrisma]] 18:45, 29 August 2010 (PDT)

== Actual effects of reformatting ==

I don't have a PS3, so I'm kind of asking someone more knowledgeable to ramble about this in the article: How much did the reformatting actually affect Chris? I thought the worst that happened to him was that he lost his savegames and LBP/MN stuff he hadn't uploaded yet, and he could just re-download the purchases and the mod content he had uploaded to the servers. Another thing: What about the older HDs? Would he have had a chance to recover some of his stuff from there, or does the data-transfer process wipe the old stuff? (I don't see why it ''should'' do a crazy thing like that, but hey, consoles are weird sometimes.) --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 00:55, 31 August 2010 (PDT)
:Yes, purchased content could easily be redownloaded and anything he uploaded to the network would still be there. To my knowledge, upgrading the hard drive does not require you to wipe the old one, but I've never done it so I don't know for sure. If his older data was still on the HDs, it sure isn't now. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 09:33, 31 August 2010 (PDT)

== Yes he has a new one ==
Fuck me. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 10:03, 2 September 2010 (PDT)
:Yeah, like nobody saw that coming. --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 12:39, 2 September 2010 (PDT)
:Do you know what he's doing with the rest of the $9001? --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 12:48, 2 September 2010 (PDT)

== lolWUT ==
The current revision of the article as I speak has this oddity:

<blockquote>"It was revealed through a series of e-mails that Chris had destroyed his beloved Life Upgrade in an attempt to cash in on a troll reward. However, to the surprise of none, he didn't think through this idea more, not even realizing that he had destroyed an item that could have netted him a lot more than the prize he sought."
</blockquote>

The PS3 and games cost Chris somewhere in the vicinity of $3500, a fact that is mentioned in a lot of places on this site. $3500 is just a little over half of the troll prize ($9001). Resale value for games is never a matter of making profit, it's about breaking even. You're not going to see $3500 again, especially not with a used PS3 and Chris's relatively small stack of used games. It's a miracle to make back your investment.

Even on eBay, you're only going to profit if you have the latest and greatest console during the first month of the launch and said console can't easily be found in stores. Even that has it's limits though usually only a couple hundred more than retail. The only way you can truly profit in the above-$5000 range is if you sell your whole game library (which obviously needs to be massive) or if you have a rarity like an RDI Halcyon prototype or a NeoGeo AES with a sizable stack of games.

I read the email, and nothing was mentioned about another reward for the intact PS3, much less a $9K< reward so what kind of acidcrack was the revision writer on suggesting you could get bookoo (buukuu? beaucoup?) money for Chris's PS3? [[User:Cadpig|- Cadpig]] 15:18, 3 September 2010 (PDT)

: I'm fairly certain that the intention was to get him to destroy his PS3 since he's a greedy sumbitch. - [[User:Captainhowdy|Captainhowdy]] 15:23, 3 September 2010 (PDT)

:: Captainhowdy? Try Captainobvious, or maybe even NoShitSherlock.¬_¬ Some editor said that Chris could have made more money with an intact PS3, which is bullshit. If it was just a false statement to troll Chris further, what good did it do? He doesn't read the CWCki religiously, he'll never know! I'm just bitching about stupid shit, I'd remove it myself but you never know what needs to stay and what needs to go article-wise when it comes to this place. We all know the intent of the trolls, I'm just pointing out a blatant research failure one of them made. [[User:Cadpig|- Cadpig]] 15:29, 3 September 2010 (PDT)
::: The reason that shit was put in is because there was a troll reward for $9001 dollars that Chris was trying to cash in on. Just like it says in the article. It has nothing to do with selling anything. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 15:39, 3 September 2010 (PDT)
:::: Goddamn, dude, NO SHIT. Do you see the last line in the quoted section? WTF is it there for? IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE IN THE CONTEXT OF THE TROLL! THAT'S WHY I WENT ON A TANGENT! I would delete it, but you never know article standards here, if that terrible "ghettogangsta nigga" style coffee-place siting article can't be deleted, who knows about this? Shit man, read the quoted section above, see if you can clarify it. Because both of you have done jack shit in that area so far. If I can't get a reason as to why it's there by tomorrow, I'm going to quit fucking around and delete it myself. Shit. [[User:Cadpig|- Cadpig]] 15:45, 3 September 2010 (PDT)
::::: Herp derp, im not a troll derp. I read what you wrote and it's a valid point. The sensible thing to do would be to edit it out and say why in the summary, not rant on the talk page and make someone else fix it. Make it so. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 15:47, 3 September 2010 (PDT)
::::: Also, as for the "both of you have done jack shit in that area so far", this is my second account. If you're looking for my contributions, look at [[Special:Contributions/Thelieisacake|this shit.]] [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 15:50, 3 September 2010 (PDT)
:::::: My bad, I get what you're saying. I was just unsure of what we can and can't edit (Clyde threw down the hammer when it came to that dude wanting to edit that terribly-written coffee place article). I'mma deleting it now. Sorry I flew off the handle, it was slow-in-the-mind of me. We can delete this whole thread if you want. EDIT: I like what you did. Good job. Y'know it's too bad Clyde doesn't really have $9001, he could give it to Cogs so CWCki would have a server that doesn't crash more than a narcoleptic.[[User:Cadpig|- Cadpig]] 15:54, 3 September 2010 (PDT)
:::::::Don't worry about it, shit happens. If Clyde were to flip shit for no reason, he wouldn't be a mod for long. As long as you can justify your edits, they will stay. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 15:58, 3 September 2010 (PDT)
:::::::It astonishes me how many people don't understand the value of the Coffee Place article or its submitter. It's a fine piece of fieldwork from one of our best trolls. [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 16:36, 3 September 2010 (PDT)

User talk:Pfargtl9000

2010-09-03T16:22:04Z

Sygerrik: /* So, someone really needs to say this */

Archives: [[User talk:Pfargtl9000/Archive 1|1]]

== HEAR ME OUT ==

*I surrender completely to the great forces at /cwc/.
*I admit to all my crimes against the internet and humanity.
*I am held responsible, no one else, for the excess drama here at CWCki and /cwc/.
*I am the official drama llama of CWCki.
*I shall end my drama with this comment.
*I am the epitome of bitchfits on the internet.
[[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 04:32, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
*Dude, I have no idea what you're trying to accomplish but srsly dude. Page protected mostly for your protection, probably do the same for VanKrause.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:56, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

==Hey==

0100101001100101011011100110101101101001011011100111001101001010011010010110111001101011011010010110010101110011001000000110100101110011001000000100001101101000011100100110100101110011

http://www.roubaixinteractive.com/PlayGround/Binary_Conversion/Binary_To_Text.asp

You're welcome.--[[User:Austin|Austin]] 19:10, 2 September 2010 (PDT)

==So, someone really needs to say this==

And I'm going to take the opportunity. There's a difference between censorship and not posting information that's still unclear. We don't really have confirmation that the money is the reason why Chris was at the mall, so we can't really claim that we do. Also,
*" Those that support Jenkins have opted for Communist-style censorship. It's easy enough to see that Jenkins is the Kim Jong-il of the CWCki."

HAHAHAHAHA no. -- [[User:Electro Gypsy|Electro Gypsy]] 19:42, 2 September 2010 (PDT)

:Email me at Sygerrik@gmail.com, please. Your questions will be answered.[[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 20:32, 2 September 2010 (PDT)
*Oh, I already know. I was more focusing on what he considers "censorship". -- [[User:Electro Gypsy|Electro Gypsy]] 20:48, 2 September 2010 (PDT)
:That was targeted at pfarty here. I am offering to explain what's going on and why people love JJ so much. [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 09:22, 3 September 2010 (PDT)

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*...that Chris will never get to return the favor by dancing with [[Tiffany_Nicole_Gowen|Tiffany Gowen]] at their High School Reunion?
*...that Chris "buys [[Obesity|healthy food]], [[Navy|good drinks]] and [[Sex_toys|just necessities]] with [[Monthly_tugboat|Good Money]]?"
*...that Chris will ''never'' be able to [[Special:Contributions/GodofThunderGodofWar|destroy]] the [[CWCki]]?
*...that Chris is a [[Lies|filthy liar]]?
*...that there is [[:Category:Media needing transcription|a grand amount]] of audio needing transcription?
*...that [[BILLY MAYS]] was the mayor of [[CWCville]]?
*...that [[Pixelblocks]] are to be confused with neither [[Pickles|Pickleblocks]] nor [[Prickly-Wicklies|Pricklyblocks]]?
*...that Chris buys [[sex toys]] and [[PS3]] games and content with [[Monthly tugboat|taxpayer money]]?
*...that [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]] has an older brother named [[Reginald Chandler|Reginald]]?
*...that Chris upgraded his anti-troll weaponry from his [[fangs]] to a [[pocket knife]]?
|11=
*...that this website, the CWCki, is a LOAD OF TRUTH?
*...that [[Chris and religion|God and Jesus]] [[Chris's Letter to Blanca|told]] Chris that [[Blanca Weiss|Blanca]] was to be his TRUE and HONEST [[sweetheart]]?
*...that a [[Curse-ye-ham-ye-ha Retraction|Forgiveness blessing]] can counter the extreme bad luck and misfortune associated with the [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] attack?
*...that [[Autism Awareness E-mails|Chris is capable of taking care of himself?]]
*...that Chris once attended a [[Chris_and_psychology#Relationship_Management_Classes|Relationship Management Class]] intended for couples?
*...that [[Bob Chandler]] wants you to [[THAT_IS_MY_HOUSE#Uncut|shut that goddamn thing off]]?
*...that Chris did not discover [[mass debating|masturbation]] until the age of 16?
*...that Chris was born on [[Cwc_blog#7_January_2010|24 February]], the same day the [[CWCville|Nazi party]] was founded?
*...that when working at [[Cutco]], Chris did not have any intentions of harming himself or others with the merchandise?
*...that OFFICIAL Sonichu medallions are made of [[Captain's Log, Stardate July 22nd, 2009|C-L-A-Y]]?
*...that Chris really cannot [[Fridays After Five|dance]]?
|12=
*...that Chris drinks his own [[semen]]?
*...that Chris wishes you a [[Bunny Hop|hoppy Easter]]?
*...that in the [[Tour of Christian's House]], Chris admits that his [[Chandler|family]] is a bunch of pack rats?
*...that Chris is a [[Surfshack Tito Emails|horrendous racist]]?
*...that Chris has been recording himself [[Chris and anger|freaking out on camera]] as early as [[Song of Christian|10th grade]]?
*...that Chris's sense of humor is [[Random-access humor|SO RANDOM XDXD]]?
*...that '''you''' can be a REAL LIFE hero by doing stuff from the [[CWCki:Priority Listing|Priority Listing]]?
*...that the "apple-core" bit with [[Wes Iseli Sonichu]] from [[Sonichu 5]] is based off a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_core children's game]?
*...that Chris banned [[Twitter]] on his [[CWCipedia]]?
:*...and then changed his mind, only to ignore it?
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*...that in [[2006]], Chris bought a [[Niggos|Booty-licious Love Doll]]? (It's an ass-lovers dream come true.)
*...that Chris is a [[Stress|stressed]] [[:Category:Yo! CWC Raps|homeboy]] [[Chris and the law|imprisoned]] in [[lulz]]?
*...that Chris told his [[Barbara Chandler|mom]] about him [[Bob_Walks_In_Aftermath|masturbating]], but his dad is not as open minded on the subject?
*...that Chris [[Miyamoto Saga|never]] went to Redmond like he [[Captain's Log, Stardate January 26th, 2009|said]]?
*...that Chris used to [[A Week With Christian Chandler|sleep in class]] (and had no shame about it)?
*...that the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] tricked Chris again?
*...that Chris considers the "[[Rule 34|romance]]" in his comics as his best art?
*...that each American taxpayer pays roughly 9.02597917x10-6 [[monthly tugboat|dollars]] each month to Chris?
*...that thanks to information from a trusted field agent, we know Chris has built a [[Talk:ModNation_Racers|Beta Cwcville Track]]?
|14=
*...that on his [[MySpace]], Chris marked his fat contacts with "More to Love"?
*...that Chris is the [[The Game Place#Chris the TCG gamer|Level Up King]]?
*...that [[Virginia is for Virgins]]?
*...that [[Chris Sings Fart Song for Flora|farting is ok]], and actually helps cure cancer?
*...that Chris can't even stand to look at you, you [[Secret Weapon|ugly freak!]]
*...that [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]] had a sweet green afro?
*...that Chris once had a prostitute [[Chris_and_sex#Prostitution|hang up]] on him?
*...that [[Michael Snyder]] is a [[Michael_Snyder_is_ColdHearted_and_Mean|''JEW!'']]
*...that Chris hates the word "[[Aspergers]]" almost as much as the word "[[Naïve]]"?
|15=
*...that Chris prefers [[McDonald's]] while [[Bob|his dad]] prefers Burger King?
*...that Chris is a [[Gay 4 Sonichu|gay icon]]?
*...that the [[Chris's Big Night Out|Long Island Iced Tea]] is the official cocktail of [[CWC]] and all [[CWC]] trolls?
*...that [[Ivy]] was real?
*...that Chris really likes [[Britney Spears]] (no matter what they all say)?
*...that his favorite song from "[[:Image:CWCSchuBrit.jpg|Air Britney]]" is ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHbCK3ETweQ E-Mail My Heart]''?
*...that [[Ryan Cash]] is an hero?
*...that all the [[Trolls|Sonichu characters]] have [[CWCipedia#The Twitter feed|Twitter]] accounts?
*...that Chris [[Autism_Awareness_E-mails|doesn't have a caretaker]], despite how badly he needs one?
|16=
*...that [[Yawning Squirtle]] sells the best weed in [[CWCville]]?
*...that Chris doesn't give a shit about his [[True and Loyal fanbase]] and that [[Sonichu]] is merely a means to an [[china|end]]?
*...that for Christmas [[2004]], Chris asked santa for a [[girlfriend]]?
*...that on Chrismas Day 2004, Chris became depressed, because [[fail|he didn't get one]]?
*...that Chris has been [[Chris and the Law|charged in court twice]]?
*...that Chris is a descendant of [[Anne Boleyn]], Queen of England?
*...that [[Wild Sonichu]] is a noted Sit 'n Spin player?
*...that Chris is the [[CWC "Boyfriend"|MOTHERFUCKING PRINCE, MAN]]?
*...that Chris [[Chris_and_rape#Chris as a rapist|would probably rape a woman]] if he wasn't so [[obesity|fat]] and lazy?
|17=
*...that Chris [[Chris and reality|believes]] that [[Sex toys|butt plugs]] are linked with [[IRC_(27_December_2008)|spontaneous human combustion]]?
*...that [[Blanca Weiss|Blanca]] was [[Captain's Log, Stardate September 13th, 2008|real]]?
*...that Chris is stuck as a [[virgin with rage]]?
*...that [[Clyde Cash]] was born on the Fourth of July (and was a true American patriot)?
*...that [[Barbara Chandler]] won the [[:Image:419-CWCWeekP13.jpg|Mother of the Year 2000 award]]?
*...that "HE KNOWS [[Clyde Cash|CLYDE CASH]]!" is an old meme?
*...that Chris was once the [[Homos|proud]] owner of a pink [[EBay|Leapster]], a gaming system for small children?
*...that [[Barbara]] [[Mumble 2#A Wild Snorlax Appears|sings while vacuuming]]?
*...that Chris [[Fridays_After_Five|throws rocks at women]] to attract them?
|18=
*...that even now, Chris [[Obesity|does not think he is fat]]?
*...that [[Sarah Jackson]], Chris's sweetheart and a Decepticon, was brutally murdered by [[Optimus Prime]]?
*...that Chris loves to give [[Cwc_blog#29_November_2009|dating advice]] to [[Manchester High School|high schoolers]] in spite of never having been on [[Dating Education|date]] as a teenager or an adult?
*...that Chris repeatedly dreamt his [[sweetheart]] amid a [[Quizzes#Christian Weston Chandler Quiz|watery maze]]?
:*...that Chris expects his fans to know what happens in his dreams?
*...that Christian and the Hedgehog Boys have a [[Christian and the Hedgehog Boys COMEBACK|second album?]]
*...that [[Wesley Foundation Methodist Church]] is a church for all of God’s children, regardless of age, [[African Americans|race]], gender, socio-economic situation, or [[homos|sexual orientation]]?
*...that Chris [[Megan|is]] [[Nudes|a]] [[April 16 Fetish Vids|disgusting]] [[Homos|human]] [[Twin Falling Towers|being]]?
*...that Chris has used a ruler to [[Mumble 8|measure]] his [[duck|dick]], but never once in his [[comic]]?
*...that Chris purged all the comments from his [[Flipnote Hatena|Flipnotes]], except a poem from a [[Galpal|random girl]] which [[Chris and his ego|praised him]]?
|19=
*...that he [[So Need a Cute Girl|never wants to hear you say]], "[[boyfriend-free girl|I have a boyfriend]]"?
*...that [[Kick the Autistic]] is America's favorite game?
*...that all the cool kids (and [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|dudes of all teenagers]]) regularly check out the [[CWCki:Community Portal|Community Portal]]?
*...that videos of Chris [[Mass debating|masturbating]] will forever haunt your [[Chris Sex Videos|nightmares]]?
*...that [[Guitar Hero]] is Chris's source for [[List of Chris's Rhapsody.com downloads|new music?]]
*...that [[Evan]] killed [[Simonla Rosechu|Mommy]]?
*...that Chris can handle getting [[University of Virginia|fake numbers]] from girls because of ''Seinfeld''?
*...that Chris originally was a [[User:ChrisChanSonichu_profile#College_Time|marketing major]] (which he picked at [[Random-access humor|random]]) before picking [[CADD]] when he enrolled at [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]]?
:*...and that he [[Father Call|didn't know]] what kind of jobs one could get with a CADD certificate?
:*...and he still has absolutely no idea how [[Axe|marketing]] works?
*...that Chris gave up free sex with a [[Jackie|girl]] because she pointed out some of his many, many flaws?
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User talk:Pfargtl9000

2010-09-03T03:32:30Z

Sygerrik: /* So, someone really needs to say this */

User talk:Pfargtl9000

2010-09-03T03:32:17Z

Sygerrik: /* So, someone really needs to say this */

Talk:Clyde and Tito PS3 E-mails

2010-09-02T23:28:30Z

Sygerrik:

i'm too lazy to add commentary so uh, yeah, any questions i'll clarify here. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 15:37, 2 September 2010 (PDT)
*Background and context would be useful here.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:54, 2 September 2010 (PDT)
**okay, i posted up a thing saying rewards for chris to have gay sex, patti bones and ps3 destruction. i posted this all over the world. chris heard about it and he wanted in on it. needless to say, he failed. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 16:00, 2 September 2010 (PDT)
*I'll be here if anyone needs commentary on my part.[[User:SurfShackTito|SurfShackTito]] 16:04, 2 September 2010 (PDT)
**Basically some trolls created a forum called the trolling train. They discussed rewards for deeds of trolling. One of which included breaking into 14 Branchland court, and smashing Chris's PS3, offering a $9001 reward. One of the trolls, our very own jenkinsjinkies, who just happened to have moved into 12 branchland court accepted the mission. Unfortunately, some faggot white knight told Chris about the trolling train forum, and chris decided to steal the honest hard working jinkies $9001 like how he tried to steal kacey, by smashing his perfectly functioning PS3, instead of just selling it. Now he wants the money for trolling himself (if thats even possible) [[User:Dkd|Dkd]] 16:05, 2 September 2010 (PDT)
*The white knight is irrelevant.[[User:SurfShackTito|SurfShackTito]] 16:07, 2 September 2010 (PDT)

Is the "Penny" referred to here PandaHalo's kid? [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 16:09, 2 September 2010 (PDT)

I don't see why it's essential to REDACT trollingtrain. Chris obviously knows about it and Cwcki's purpose is to illuminate, not keep fellow trolls in the dark. There's a definite need for secrecy while a plan is going on, but once the emails are leaked I think it's a mistake to keep that censorship going and against the spirit of the wiki.

EDIT: One question. Is the formatting a completely separate incident, which prompted him to destroy his PS3 to claim the reward (since it was borked anyways?) Or were we involved in causing that as well? And is there any info on this new girlfriend available, or is Chris just Chloeing us again? [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 16:23, 2 September 2010 (PDT)

Talk:Clyde and Tito PS3 E-mails

2010-09-02T23:23:00Z

Sygerrik:

i'm too lazy to add commentary so uh, yeah, any questions i'll clarify here. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 15:37, 2 September 2010 (PDT)
*Background and context would be useful here.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:54, 2 September 2010 (PDT)
**okay, i posted up a thing saying rewards for chris to have gay sex, patti bones and ps3 destruction. i posted this all over the world. chris heard about it and he wanted in on it. needless to say, he failed. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 16:00, 2 September 2010 (PDT)
*I'll be here if anyone needs commentary on my part.[[User:SurfShackTito|SurfShackTito]] 16:04, 2 September 2010 (PDT)
**Basically some trolls created a forum called the trolling train. They discussed rewards for deeds of trolling. One of which included breaking into 14 Branchland court, and smashing Chris's PS3, offering a $9001 reward. One of the trolls, our very own jenkinsjinkies, who just happened to have moved into 12 branchland court accepted the mission. Unfortunately, some faggot white knight told Chris about the trolling train forum, and chris decided to steal the honest hard working jinkies $9001 like how he tried to steal kacey, by smashing his perfectly functioning PS3, instead of just selling it. Now he wants the money for trolling himself (if thats even possible) [[User:Dkd|Dkd]] 16:05, 2 September 2010 (PDT)
*The white knight is irrelevant.[[User:SurfShackTito|SurfShackTito]] 16:07, 2 September 2010 (PDT)

Is the "Penny" referred to here PandaHalo's kid? [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 16:09, 2 September 2010 (PDT)

I don't see why it's essential to REDACT trollingtrain. Chris obviously knows about it and Cwcki's purpose is to illuminate, not keep fellow trolls in the dark. There's a definite need for secrecy while a plan is going on, but once the emails are leaked I think it's a mistake to keep that censorship going and against the spirit of the wiki. [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 16:23, 2 September 2010 (PDT)

User talk:NasuGrave

2010-08-31T15:28:30Z

Sygerrik: /* Confirmation */

==Confirmation==
I'm not a White Knighting fgt, don't worry. I just haven't been particularly active lately, haven't been on #sonichu in almost a year. Could you drop me an email? It's my username at gmail. I think I know what's going on but I want to check if I'm right. You're right, keeping this stuff off any public forum is important lately. Thanks. [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 07:13, 31 August 2010 (PDT)
:I'm just worried Chrissy might see it and ruin everything. I dropped you a message on your talk page. --[[User:NasuGrave|NasuGrave]] 08:14, 31 August 2010 (PDT)
::I saw it, and I understand your concern. Chris reads TT and so it's not really a safe place to lay it all out either. Send me an email, I'll send one back and lay out my understanding, and you tell me if I'm super off base. I've been around here for a while; I'm not about to drop a dime to Chris about anything. [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 08:28, 31 August 2010 (PDT)

User talk:NasuGrave

2010-08-31T14:13:24Z

Sygerrik:

Talk:The MovingFoward videos

2010-08-30T14:24:18Z

Sygerrik:

<center>THIS IS NOT A SPECULATION PAGE --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 06:26, 30 August 2010 (PDT) </center>

{{Not A Forum}}
Transcribing this one presently... [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 17:27, 29 August 2010 (PDT)
:Done transcribing. Well, that was something you don't see every day. If anybody can catch what he says while he's setting down the camera in the first bit, please do add that... [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 17:54, 29 August 2010 (PDT)

What account did he upload this on?--[[User:Lylelash|Lylelash]] 17:42, 29 August 2010 (PDT)
*he didn't upload it, trolls did --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 17:42, 29 August 2010 (PDT)

The 'Trophy Unlocked: Killed the HEX-BOX!" has a certain delicious irony to it now. Maybe Chris deserves an Xbox 360 Achievement for 'killing' the PS3? [[User:Sakanz|Sakanz]] 19:17, 29 August 2010 (PDT)
:"Achievement Unlocked" Shoopfag request! --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 20:22, 29 August 2010 (PDT)
:: Done--[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 22:13, 29 August 2010 (PDT)
:::Many thanks! Is the misspelling intentional? --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 22:14, 29 August 2010 (PDT)
:::: Yeah in the moment i forgot how chris spelled Hex-box.--[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 22:22, 29 August 2010 (PDT)
:::::That wasn't the misspelling I was pointing to. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 07:17, 30 August 2010 (PDT)

Random observations that probably should be put to appropriate articles: 1) ''"I mean no disrespect to Sony Computer Entertainment America. Maker of the fine product." ... "I bid you fond...faredoo. Adieu. Fond farewell..."'' If there ever was a proverbial smoking gun as to the fact that Chris just doesn't know what some phrases actually ''mean,'' this would be it. I mean, he failed at really meaning what he said to the sweethearts, and now he failed at really meaning what he said to his sweet fave electronics manufacturer. 2) ''"when I plugged it in, it did not turn on."'' Chris fails basic common-sense fire, electricity and possibly laser safety. If something is obviously FUBAR, you just ''don't'' plug it in, dammit. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 05:51, 30 August 2010 (PDT)

==/v/ Is not an acceptable source of information==
Wow, this is terrible. /v/ is never ever ever a good source of information. You should know better. I really don't know how to handle the level of misinformation you guys are experiencing here. It's not as if any of the events leading up to Chris smashing the PS3 have been hidden from the public. There's really no excuse for this level of ignorance. You guys shouldn't be looking to 4chan for the latest Chris news, they are always the last to know and always the most misinformed. --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 06:05, 30 August 2010 (PDT)
:But it's correct information, but also, this isn't the place to be discussing it.--[[User:NasuGrave|NasuGrave]] 07:05, 30 August 2010 (PDT)
::It's correct in the same way that ED is right about Chris --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 07:10, 30 August 2010 (PDT)
:::Perhaps, then, this talk page (or the video page) is an appropriate place for a link to the location of the correct information? Remember, our job is to educate people about the CWC trainwreck. When people are ignorant, we can't assume it's because of a failing on their part; we have to make an effort to improve cwcki. Ignorance is not a sin, it's an opportunity to become educated.[[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 07:24, 30 August 2010 (PDT)

User talk:Champthom

2010-08-27T03:52:09Z

Sygerrik:

Talk to me.

Be sure to check out the archives as well:

'''Archive:''' [[User:Champthom/Archive 1|1]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 2|2]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 3|3]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 4|4]]

==Upload page==
Thank you sir, your change is much appreciated. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 12:43, 20 December 2009 (CET)

==Sonichu Franchise Games==

How about this: [[User:Dude/Sonichu_Franchise_Games]]

...replace these:
*[[Sonichu (game)]]
*[[John's Custom Gundam: Sisterly Rescue]]
*[[Pokémon:_Lightning_Version]]
*[[Sonichu_Adventure]]
*[[Sonichu_Advance]]
*[[EX-CWC]]
--[[User:Dude|Dude]] 05:47, 22 December 2009 (CET)

==Chris's First Interview==
I noticed on [[Talk:Chris-chan_Discusses...]] you asked for someone to mirror Chris's first interview on Youtube. I know that was a while back, <s>but as far as I can tell no one has actually done it yet</s>, so I went ahead and did it for you [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U-4Mvc5LbM]. I hope you're pleased. --[[User:That Man|That Man]] 23:10, 27 December 2009 (CET)
*just noticed a while ago that it's aleardy been uploaded by The CWCville Library. I have no clue how I was so oblivious to that. --[[User:That Man|That Man]] 03:26, 28 December 2009 (CET)
:*I didn't notice this either, thank you for telling me about this though and I appreciate your effort anyways.
:*Also can't seem to find it on the CWCvilleLibrary...could you possibly post a link?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:49, 28 December 2009 (CET)

==Thanks, Champthom==
<nowiki>:)</nowiki> --[[User:GokuGetEm|GokuGetEm]] 09:53, 31 December 2009 (CET)

==New Hotness for Videos==
Take a look at this template for videos that [[User:NeoShadow]] made; it's really sweet. It can wrap around videos (in the middle of the page, where they are now) or it can be used as a sidebar.

*Template: [[Template:Infobox/video]]

*Centered example: [[User:Neoshadow/sandbox/Sonic_Sweepstakes]]

*Sidebar example: [[User:Neoshadow/sandbox/Sonic_Sweepstakes2]]

Thoughts? It's been on the [[CWCki:Priority_Listing|to do list]] for a while now, and we could get one or the other in place pretty quickly. The big question is which placement to use, and general style questions vis-a-vis the way it looks. Let us know! --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 09:43, 3 January 2010 (CET)
*I really like it, but there was some debate (I need to see where) over the usage of video infoboxes, as some people argued it's unnecessarily replicates information one can gleam from the article. However, I think your centered example might solve that as this is ultimately what we can use to replace just pasting the video in Video sections of articles. I think the "Made by" would be useless in 99% of situations (with the very few videos made by other people, such as the Watch and Win one, or the videos by Scarlet). Personally I like your infoboxes, but I'm not sure if everyone else likes it elsewhere.
:Best I'd do is mention this in the [[CWCki:Community_Portal|community portal]]. As I said, I think your centered example might be very useful and a nicer display than just a YouTube video in the video section. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:11, 3 January 2010 (CET)
*This add-on is useless and redundant if you ask me. There's nothing new here you can't read in the introduction of the video, in the video navigation bar and I don't see the need for the "Festive" icons. I respect the efforts but I am a K.I.S.S.-Type of guy. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 15:02, 3 January 2010 (CET)

==IMPOSTORS==

Hey Champ, this is the "dude" from the old CWCki... somebody claimed my nick in the three hours between Cogs fixing the captcha and me checking back in =( Is there anything we can do about this? I can still log into the old CWCki to prove my TRUTH and HONESTY, and I used the same email signing up here (this account) and there (the old "dude"). --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 05:12, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
*I'll consult with Cogs later tonight, as I'm not sure if we can kick this other "Dude" off and have you have his nickname, especially given that it's an extremely generic name someone could have chosen (like Anonymous or Nobody or some name like that) or if we can do this, if it is right in doing so. Now I am concerned that people might try to leech off the fame of others by signing up for accounts of previous CWCki users, either to jump start their e-fame or as a way of trolling, so I'll need a second opinion. If anyone wants to weigh in on the matter, by all means do so. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 10:57, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
**Yeah, it's pretty generic, but at the same time, I only signed up around October, so it wasn't generic enough to be taken by then. I am kind of surprised that somebody snapped it up so quickly, since I was pretty actively trying to get it back myself. I suppose it could be innocent, but it's still kind of frustrating. Thanks for looking into it. --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 14:52, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
can you give him the account back. i didn't know. i didnt think dude was gona be available, i though i got lucky. didnt mean to steal it, ill make another one [[User:Dude|Dude]] 00:26, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
*No problem Dude (see what I did there?). Okay, here's how this will go down - new Dude, when you get a new account, AIM or message me in IRC when you do. I will merge your current account into your new one. That will free up the username "Dude" and old Dude can register that way. rpoblem oslved. If there's any problems, you guys let me know because then I have to resort to Plan B. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:36, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
*New [[User:Dude|Dude]] has been [[Special:Contributions/Dude|inactive]] for about a week now... can I get my account back? --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 17:49, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
:*The new Dude needs to contact me so I can merge his old account into the new one, thus freeing up "Dude." If he doesn't respond in 24 hours or so, then contact me and I'll reset the password and give it over to you. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:57, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

== I'll not take this treachery sitting down! ==

You dare claim superiority over my powers as a great and terrifying wizard!? You shall soon see the error of your ways, good sir Champthom. I am a vengeful spellcaster, and I will rape you furiously in your sleep. [[User:Artiph|Artiph the Destroyer, Omniscient Archmage, bearer of the Grimoire of Destruction, whose powers by and large surpass that of the Great Wizard CrassCrab, Lord of the Seven Realm and Master of the Archane Black Arts of the Eleventh Trans-Dimensional Vortex]] 11:03, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

==Sup==
Have a job for me? You told me to get in touch... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 19:38, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
*Well I was going to ask you to help upload images but people got onto that which is good.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:57, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
:*Coolio. On Another note, don't bother restoring my Jerkop status. I don't need it now seeing as how images have a MUCH higher ceiling. I'll stick around to improve articles and help people with images if they need it. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 10:02, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

==SPECIAL MISSION==
I accept. Should I simply sign up for an account on Asperpedia and get started or what? --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 09:19, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
*Yeah, do that - sign up for an Asperpedia account and go zap to the extreme. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:17, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

==Just to let you know==

There's a new user who registered under the name ChristianWestonChandler. I am watching this account since it came online. I just don't get a good feeling about this. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 07:00, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

==Apologies==

Thank you for fixing that mistake, that was the first time I added a template so I really am horrible at it. --[[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 5:05 20 January 2010 (CET)

== Chris's resume ==

Would you please be so kind as to move this to [[Chris's résumé]] for the sake of more accurate spelling, and to satisfy the grammar nazi in me? If you don't know how to make the fancy és, just copy and paste mine. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 04:22, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
*Also, please to be deleting [[Chris and fame]]. Broken redirect. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 20:15, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

== A new Mailbag bombing==
Well, our dear Christian has now started giving a copy paste reply as his new method of rejection. And hes done it to Mike Jackson's widow. We had a quick discussion about that in the talk page, and we thought it'd be an idea for another mailbag thats just filled entirely with letters about this one subject. Like how we had a whole mailbag asking about Asperchu and stuff like that? I thought we could have another of those; Only this time have an entire mailbag of people calling him out for being such a prick and for still not properly ansewing letters. What do you think Champ? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 18:59, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

* To amend that idea, I suggest having Sysop inform him of another pending legal issue that can only be averted if he gives full replies to each email--he can't use the "Inputed" response or delete the whole thing and replace it with a general response or else the site goes down again or something.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 19:32, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

* Agreed. We need some sort of cover from him rejecting it in any way. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:56, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

== [[Politics]] ==

Please to be deleting. Broken redirect. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 01:11, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

== Sandy Rosechu ==

Any idea why [[Sandy Rosechu]] is showing up in [[:Category:Templates]]? [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 22:17, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
*Fixed it. The Squote template didn't have noinclude wrapped around its category. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:21, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
**That was my fault. --[[User:Mikhail Faulken|Mikhail Faulken]] 22:24, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

== halp ==

Yo [[Scampers|Champers]], could you derete this page here: http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/Template:Christory/March_07 ? It will be confus if it doesn't turn up as a red link. Sorry for mistake. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 15:00, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

== YO! ==

Champ old boy, do you have sauce on [[:File:CWCinDailyProgressJuly142007.jpg|this]] here sniplet? It must have slipped right past me, and now I want to know what it is! [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 02:09, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

==Jerkops Anonymous==

Hey, Champthom. I've been in the mood to move a page or two recently, but my jerkop privileges were abolished with the move to CWCki 2.0. Would you mind reinstating them? [[User:Llort|Llort]] 03:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

== Cole Smithey ==

Don't you think an edit like [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Z_%28film%29&diff=prev&oldid=344566166 this] seems too intentional to be an impostor? Never mind 30+ edits to the Cole Smithey article? [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 18:13, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
==Re: Pic of Wallflower==
Is this ok? It was shopped and It looks less like a man
[[Image:ClydeandLovelyweather.jpg|thumb|right]]

-[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 04:02, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

== Posse ==

Champ, I don't know if you still need monitors, but I have no life and lurk on the CWCki pretty much all day. Hit me up if you need me. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 04:06, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
*NO U. Srsly, contact me on AIM or IRC tonight. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:07, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

==Summaries==

Ok, so I will check. I've started trying to sort and format the summaries for each of the Mumbles, and it's March Mumble Madness, but I seem to have contradicted instructions (as I discovered having worked on ALL of them), by listing rather than writing a narrative. What is it you want exactly, so I can get on it ASAP. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 04:11, 18 March 2010 (UTC)22:40, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

==Article of the Now==

You wanted some sort of template to denote former articles of the now? [[Template:Articleofthenow|How's this?]] --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 19:58, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
*Clyde already made something, just need to incorporate it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:06, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
*Late to the party again. Never mind --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 20:23, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

== List of Chris' lies ==

Okay, I trust your judgment on this. Wasn't sure if cleanup or deletion was the better solution and it looks like I chose wrong. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 20:36, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

== Quality Control jerkops ==

Hey, I saw your comment re "Quality Control" jerkops, of which none seem to be active at this point. I think I could handle that. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 21:12, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

== Champ old boy ==

People want to update [[Fan:Sonichu: The Animated Series]], could you unlock it for a while? [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 09:12, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

== Userboxes ==
Is it cool for users to make new rewards\userboxes, like the Grammar Nazi and Assburgers ones, for instance? Some wikis I've edited on don't like for you to make new ones due to space or whatnot, and others let you go crazy with it. Just want to check beforehand. [[User:BubblegumPinkButler|BubblegumPinkButler]] 03:22, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
*Yeah, it's alright, just don't go too crazy by making a kajillion of them. Some of the useboxes, like the Jerkop, Admin, etc. are obviously protected and it's poor taste to award yourself awards like the Order of the Pickle, etc. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:44, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

==April Fool's Day==
Since its going to be april fools day when the ultimatum expires why dont we just shut down for 1 day and let chris think he's won.
I mean worst that can happpen is he forgets about us, or the best is that he actually makes a "victory over cwcki" vid.

and then bring it back on the 2nd with a big fuck you chris

user: DKD 15.13 GMT 31.3.10
* No. That's stupid. Chris will make a "HA HA I GOT U TROLLS" video and quit paying attention to us because he thinks we are gone. If we stay up, we will have our own FUCK YOU CHRIS simply because we're not down. This will make Chris angry, and angry Chris is funny.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 14:18, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

*Never compromise, even in the face of <strike>Armageddon</strike> April Fool's Day. Also, in the future, make a sub heading (it's two equal signs, then your text, followed by two equal signs). --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:32, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

This makes me worry now. What if Chris is pulling a long, convoluted April Fools prank, possibly the idea of a white knight? --[[User:Zehnfragezeichen|Zehnfragezeichen]] 16:18, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
*Don't be silly. The only White Knight who he listens to is Rocky, and even then, only just barely. And whats the chances that a church counsellor is going to come troll us? I think we're safe. Its almost certain that his plan consists of 'blank pages' and 'try to find and stab the webmaster' --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:32, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

How bout we say that both bob and snorlax are dead, and put 14 Branchland Court up for sale? {{unsigned|Dan Dash}}

*Please, for the love of God, sign your comments. It's four tildas (~) in a row. I'm tempted to start banning people (albeit temporarily) for those who can't learn how to sign their fucking posts. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:28, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

:*Champ's got the rage. Dan, would that actually get to Chris? Seems to me it wouldn't bother him that much. Also seems he's making himself trollproof by becoming detached from us. Thoughts? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 23:04, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
:**He's not trollproofing himself at all, he's just fighting the urge to go online and complain about things. This is exactly like when we got him to make the comic--he was really diligent about it and when he missed a day he usually made up by posting two comics on the next. Flash forward two months and he's only releasing it in short bursts. He'll be back on his own in that time--less if he thinks Sonichu is being threatened. I suggest that someone put up an ad on CWCipedia that states that Chris has declared all Asperpedia comics cannon within the Sonichuverse. Or something about how Chris risks losing the "copyright" if he doesn't make visible use of it for more than two months.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 23:14, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

::*I'm not sure, he didn't even seem too angry when he discovered the Cwcipedia was devastated (now THAT would've been an April Fool's Day joke). Could it be that he's becoming numb to it? We've done almost everything we can to slander him, his family, and Sonichu. We've set up "sweethearts" toyed with him and, albeit inadvertently, brought about the end of his last IRL gal-pal. We sent the health department to his house, without effect, and have parodied Sonichu and Chris himself. What else CAN we do to this guy? --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 23:17, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
::**We didn't call the health department on him and he never learns from his mistakes. We do it again and again. He's not getting desensitized at all, actually. We know most of his buttons now, we've just got to know when to push them. Oh, and every now and then Chris will do something to troll himself, and that's always worth a laugh.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 23:27, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
::*** But it's getting kind of cyclical, Chris gets a new sweetheart, he get's in love mood, phone calls are leaked, get lulzy videos and then, someone manages to anger him, he spews some death threats, then the sweetheart leaves/reveals as troll/dies and then we have sulk Chris, then he completely forgets about it and we have the smug Chris, and in between all that he makes a rant video once in a while. Pretty much we have seen everything chris has to offer for trolling.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 04:26, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

==General question==
Alright so Im a massive newfag here, and I'm wondering how do I create those tags on your pages? For example the eurofag and amerifag stuff. Can I create my own and upload them onto my user page?
[[User:Dkd|Dkd]] 23:55, 31 March 2010 (UTC)DKD 00:54 GMT 01.04.10
Templates.--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 03:20, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== "Contact me ASAP" ==

What's going on? --[[User:Jerkop|Jerkop]] 03:59, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
*Contact me privately. My info is on my use page, we can't discuss this openly. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:25, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
*I've tried to contact you through AIM before, but because I'm a cheapskate who can't use Windows software, I suspect AIM didn't work too well on my end. I'm now in IRC too. I hope this works better. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 10:36, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

==CWC superstar==
Which Chris video did you get mentioned in?

[[User:Dkd|Dkd]] 12:55, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
*[[Bunny Hop|PYONG PYONG PYONG! HOPPY EASTER FOR]] [[Crass and Champ|CRASS AND '''CHAMP''']]. Technically he's referring to the crab named after me, so there should be an asterisk. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:24, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

==Artist for hire==

I would be pleased to help by uploading pictures on the CWCki. The problem is that I don't know where to start. There was a page with the needing drawings but it wasn't updated in quite a while.
I talked to Cogsdev on the irc #sonichu and was referred to you. I'm not new to the Cwcki, but I only registered only today.
Here's an example of what I can do, if it's good enough:
http://cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:Sonee_2.jpg --[[User:Blacksky01|Blacksky01]] 23:10, 13 april 2010

*I'd say that the [[Artist Commune]] for requested images is still current, so you can still try there. I'd say that the [[Mumble]] chats could use illustrations, mostly of illustrations to go with notable quotes from the chat.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:29, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

*Here's a pic for the IRC(16 october 2008) with 2 notable quotes from it. Since I'm not sure how to add it in a good way, I'll leave it to you.

http://cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:IRC(16_October_2008).jpg

I hope it's good enough, I kinda messed up the pedo-glasse since it was done from memory.
Also, how can I link my signature to my userpage?--[[User:Blacksky01|Blacksky01]] 13:44, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

*Here's another one, this time for the IRC (20 January 2009).

http://cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:IRC(20_January_2009).jpg

I tried doing the pedo glasses right this time. I'll leave this to you. Also, thanks for the edit Beat.--[[User:Blacksky01|Blacksky01]] 22:58, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

== Transcription Category ==

What are your views on a category for all articles containing transcriptions? It would make them easier to locate for maintenance or general interest IMO. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 22:42, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

== Question About Templates ==

Hey, I recently uploaded the 4 templates [[Template:Observer|Observer]], [[Template:Warrior|Warrior]], [[Template:Hero|Hero]], and [[Template:Legend|Legend]]. I was wondering what I should do with them( I'm not the best at using Wikis). Should I move them somewhere, edit them, etc.? Also, since you deleted two of the category pages, I was wondering if I should restore those or delete the other two. Sorry if there are any problems. --[[User:Alcoholic Legend|Alcoholic Legend]] 03:10, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

:Oh, also, just wanted to tell ya that I restored the two category pages for now (now all 4 are up instead of just 2/4). If you want me to change/move anything, I'll gladly do it. Just tell me what to do and I'll get it done. : ) --[[User:Alcoholic Legend|Alcoholic Legend]] 06:14, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

== Old Cats ==

As part of a revamp of userboxes and their categories, there's a lot of now [[Special:UnusedCategories|unused categories prefixed with "List of"]] that need to be deleted forever. Can you fix? --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 05:16, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
:There's a few more List of... categories that need nuking. You might have just got hand cramp or something :) --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:21, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
:*[[THAT IS MY HOUSE|I'M WORKIN ON IT!]].--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:10, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== Deletion, moving and er, shit ==

To do with the Twitter stuff. I remember you saying something about Jerkop powers not extending to moving/deletion. Can I? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 10:55, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

On a related note, I made a mistake on an [[Bill Lumburg/Fan:Sonichu 11|article]] I created and I'm trying to move it to my Userspace. Can you help me with this? I don't see a move option anywhere so I'm assuming only admins can do it. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 03:58, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
*Thanks for taking care of that. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 04:54, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== New Performance Style ==

Made this and applied it to a few pages after discussion that in the latest video none of the templates reflected the performance style (unadulterated smugness). Probably should have run it by you before I added it to a load of videos, sorry about that. :(

{{Comeuppance.png|text}}

:The template has been named incorrectly (Should not have the .png). The icon doesn't seem to match the style of the others - most notably the eyes. And I personally still don't think comeuppance is the right name we should give the template, but that's just me. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 13:02, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

== Video Template ==

So I made a change to the video template last night which inserts a linked version of Chris's name on video templates when someone puts '''|maker= Chris'''. Do you think that since the template is intended for Chris videos, we can just make the maker default to displaying Chris's name and drop the |maker= line for most uses of the template - retaining the option to include it if we need to override it? I need to run this past someone before I start rolling it out.

Oh and I'm considering making the template parameters lowercase, as is common with templates. I could implement a way for the template to accept both while I transition each use of the template to use lowercase. Worth doing? (Some of the parameters are already lowercase - messy!) --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 21:31, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

==#sonichu ban/the stuff I was going to post==

Hey Champ, any word on the issues we discussed? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:16, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
*Thanks for reminding me, I asked canine and he was going to talk to cogs but never heard back. I'll check with her though, though tonight isn't the best night to do it (long story). --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:31, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:*Not a problem mate, there's no rush. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 03:31, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::*Contact me ASAP, just need to clarify something. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:43, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

==Quick Question==

Got something to ask you real quick. Will you be on AIM/IRC tomorrow? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:57, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
*Actually I'm gonna be out of town, but I'll be back Monday night.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:48, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Glass vs Glasses ==

Wait what? Pretty sure glasses is what the majority of English speakers use when referring to a single pair of spectacles. It just looks stupid using "glass". --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:31, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

== Uhh...Champ? ==
You deleted the Facial Recognition talk page but not the page itself. Just saying. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:35, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

== A jerkop resignation letter ==

It appears that my furry background is raising a stir in /cwc/, and some people don't want me to post there. It does, however, bring another thing in my mind. I'd ask you to remove my jerkop bit. There's two reasons for this: First, if ''not'' having furries in positions of power helps some of the trolls to sleep better in the night, this course of action would help them. Secondly - and this is a far, far bigger reason - I'm not actually ''using'' the block/delete powers much, and having an account that needlessly has such powers is obviously a computer security risk. I don't think losing those rights would affect me that much as CWCki editor; I'm more concerned about site security and user happiness. Respectfully, --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 16:32, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
*I need to discuss this with Cogs first. I appreciate your selfless concern for the site but I'll be damned if /cwc/ tells me or Cogs how to run this site. What you do outside the CWCki is nobody's damn busy, to be honest. You are one of the finest CWCki editors we have, particularly because you have experience editing Wikipedia and I will not let you be intimidated by Internet fucktards at least on the CWCki. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:40, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
** Understood. I just have to add that this is one of those "last nail in the coffin" type things; like I said, the security issue is, in my opinion, ''far'' more important than the troll reaction. I'm thinking of all that ruckus that was caused by the hacked sysop accounts in Wikipedia a year or two ago. So please, if a policy needs to be made, it should be made on the security grounds, not trolling grounds. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 17:47, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
*** I saw the thread on the /cwc/ you are referring to. In my humble opinion, you shouldn't give them any power over what you do. If you identify with a paticular group on the internet, it's not important. You seem to be an important editor to this fine Wiki, so having a bit of power can't be wrong in your case. The opinions expressed by the "members" of the /cwc" imageboard aren't worth anything on the CWCkie. Also, an hacking attemp on your account seems highly unlikely if you don't let any clues on your password. But it's only my opinion on the matter, it ain't worth all that much.--[[User:Blacksky01|Blacksky01]]
**** I know. The whole situation in the thread was ridiculous. Me making the teensy bit of a mistake of being a namefag (I knew the pain threshold was low, but ''sheesh''), people spamming the thread with the (admittedly awful) drawings I drew years ago. (Careful readers might know that I ''specifically'' made a promise not to "spread the cancer" here. It applies to /cwc/ as well. But if the /cwc/ people wish to repost the godawful drawings, that's ''their'' headache.) The only real effect the thread has had on me, personally, is that I've tried to objectively evaluate some of the things that actually ''do'' suck: I mopped my user page of the rambling and put it in subpages, replaced some of the drawings on my home page (damn, those were old and awful) and I have to rethink the promotion strategies for my webcomic, since that is obviously not working. I still stand by the security concerns, but if Champ and Cogs don't think it's an issue, then I promise to not use the block/delete tools for anything heinous, as was the case before. =) --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 14:02, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

== Trouble in Asperpedia ==

I've just gotten confirmation that the recent confusion in Asperpedia is being caused by vandals [http://hsienko.com/asperchu/index.php?title=User_talk:IsabelMonday#HI_GOD_MORNING]. Now I know you've got no power over at Asperpedia, but if they've taken the admin accounts there's nothing they can really do, and I was hoping you might have connections with someone who could help take the site back. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:02, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
*Mao is a [[Wikipedia:trickster|trickster]], beware of his cunning. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:03, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
**Well if it's a trick, its still pissing me off. I just made a project proposal to him and he answers by deleting all the fan content. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:05, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
::*Have you considered the possibility he is TROLLING YOU BACK? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:07, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:::*Not if he was destroying everyone else's fan content. That's just too extreme for trolling one person. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:09, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
::::* Admins can undelete deleted content so it could be an elaborate troll. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 18:35, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::* I'm aware of that, in fact my first thought was that Mao was taking a piss all over me, until I saw he was deleting the entire fan portal and not just my content. I'll just have to wait and see what happens. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:36, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::*Wait, your telling me that this is the actual Mao doing this? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:01, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
As Champ said, you cannot rule that possibility out knowing Mao's traits. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 19:04, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, but I never thought Mao would do something like this. This is extreme even for him. And he's deleting Asperchu too. And he's talking about /b/ and people's passwords. And the toher admins are acting like that too. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:06, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
::* He set his password to '''password''' (no, seriously) and some asshat got in his account. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 19:47, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
::** *Facepalm* --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:57, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
{{quote|That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard! It's like what a moron would set on his luggage!|<s>Mel Brooks</s> Rick Moranis couldn't have said it any better.}}

==Talk pages==

I think we should start looking at temporary bans for user who continue to use article talk pages for personal discussion. It's out of control. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 03:19, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

* He edited his page to change someone's comment to something compromising. When I called him out on it, he did that to me too, and then faked my signature on another compromising comment. Then again, I "had it coming" as you said. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 03:24, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
*I don't like being involved in others peoples' problems but Delabonte is abusing his power while being hypocritical. look at the history in his talk page.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 03:50, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:*Delabonte is neither a jerkop or admin, he has no real powers aside from being here for a while. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:54, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

*I don't like it either. Not that I disapprove of the Not a Forum template--those are prefectly justified on any non-user talk page. There's usually a thread over on the appropriate channels anyway, so it's not like it's a big deal. I just don't understand why it should apply to user talk pages.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:04, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

:I was talking about '''article''' talk pages, not '''user''' talk pages, but out of respect for 16BitAlex I have removed the offending article from the talk page and put it on my userpage. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 04:05, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::Partly my fault for not reading fully. But, if it was truly out of respect you would have removed the "offending article". You are right on Not A Forum for ''article'' talk pages. If only there was a forum that CWCki users could use. In fact, there ''was'', until the powers that be at a certain private forum thought that a public forum was a bad idea. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 04:22, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::when i said abusing your power i didn't mean the "NOT a forum thing". i understand my mistake regarding that. what i meant was the editing anonymax's and 16alex's comments on your usertalk after you told alex he could not delete the vandalism from his userpage.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 04:40, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

:*Dudes, there's still [[Krapple|/cwc/]] and [[EDF]] (if you're totally desperate). Fuck, you can make your own forum, just don't go about declaring how you're gonna rip stuff off from PVCC or try to overtake PVCC. Fuck, hang out in [[Sonichu (IRC)|#sonichu]] and they'll let you in PVCC if you're not a faggot. Point is, CWCki isn't the place for this sort of talk - it's distracting and there's better places to do this.
::I mildly tolerate it since once people get warned, they (usually) tend to start and it's hard to keep track of repeat offenders. I think I've temporarily banned someone who was a repeat offender once but as I said, it's hard to keep track of people who do that sort of shit over again.
::I really haven't seen this as a huge problem on article talk pages, and in the past I have threatened bans for trivial discussing that was getting out of control but for one or two people commenting I can sorta deal with. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:54, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Champ, I think you should look into Delabonte again. I tried warning him about not starting a flame war, but he just started vandalizing other people's comments on his talk page. This kind of behavior isn't tolerated here. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 13:08, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
*Cogs has spoken to me, the issue has been resolved. As usual, in her favour. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 14:47, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

==I just counted==
For some reason, I'm doing this lately. You have, as of this writing, made 8925 edits to the CWCki, based on your contributions page. No joke. Thought you ought to know. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 00:29, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
*1) that's because I'm an admin, 2) most of my admins are me failing to preview and tiny shit 3) mostly talk page edits. Fun fact - my user page is the most linked page on CWCki because I comment on like every talk page. But yeah, I spend way too much time here. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:32, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

== Yo ==
Champ! Do us all a favour and ban JESUS would you? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:57, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

== You said to direct questions to you. So... ==
How in the fuck is that Coffee Place article a confirmed CWC sighting? Where in that photo is Chris or Bob, because I can't see shit? What does any of the text have to do with Chris or any sighting of any kind for that matter? Why does Clyde believe it's a confirmed CWC sighting? What evidence have we got? And why are you and Clyde so certain that this user's word alone can be trusted to the point of threatening bans for questioning them, when they haven't really given us any real proof of anything?

I really, really, REALLY hope that i'm just retarded and missing something obvious, because this makes NO sense to me whatsoever. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 02:03, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:shut the fuck up edward [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 02:06, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
*To clarify, I'll be glad to address any questions on a one-on-one basis in IRC or via AIM.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:07, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
**I've also got a question I need to ask you in IRC.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 02:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
*I can't use IRC. My computer fucks up whenever I try, and believe me I have tried. Why am I never allowed an actual answer when I ask a question? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 12:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
*You are thicker than liquid cement, Edward. Email me at origins.intervention@null.net so I can enlighten you. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 16:11, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
*It's not sending. I keep trying to send a message and I keep getting a notification email telling me that they couldn't send it for some reason. Are you sure that's the right email address? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:30, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
**Can I cover this, Champ?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 17:52, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
::*Go ahead, or Jump is sure to enlighten you as well, Edward.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:58, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
***Try my alterate, the.new.chemical@gmail.com --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 18:32, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:I did actually maange to get a message through to Jump's alternate account. I'm waiting for his response right now. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:00, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

:Everything's sorted now. Thanks again Jump. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:54, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

== irc ==

<s>Yo, Champ, I'm trying to join #sonichu but I get a message that says the hostname could not be resolved, and when I do get in, it says I have to identify a registered name. I'm using Mibbit and I already have an account there, and whenever I use the link at our Mibbit article, there's no one on. What am I doing wrong? Sorry for being a total newfag.</s> nevermind, sorry for annoying you-[[User:Hiiro|Hiiro]] 17:08, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

==Ban me==

I'm evading a permaban. Jesus Christ. Do your fucking job, sandnigger.--[[User:JerryMathers|JerryMathers]] 00:03, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

== We need some clarification ==

On the community portal you said "do not interfere with Jenkins" which I simply took to mean "do not fuck with him" or "let him work on his report unimpeded." Delabonte, on the other hand, claims you meant zero communication and is putting up some userbox on everyone's page who posted on his talk page. All I did was point him to he userbox list after someone suggested it to him. Could you please clarify for everyone's sake what you specifically meant?

Also, I think the 'fuckwit alert' box is unwarranted; seriously, why would the PVCC care about a harmless mistake, let alone monitor such 'criminals'? And if I really had broken your rule, me and the other users would have been banned by now, wouldn't we? Some of those comments had already been put up for days without incident. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 04:49, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
*I took it to mean "Don't do anything that doesn't appear to be approved". I followed that to the letter and I intend to follow the proper instructions now that I've been notified. However, I think the userbox was an overreaction.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 05:16, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

I think your userboxes are very fitting and you wear them well. [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 05:55, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

*As we want Jenkins to keep up the good work, the idea is more of the former - to not hinder his work, i.e. not to post too many praises on his talk page. I'm not sure what's been going on as I've been out the past two days or so, but I'm guessing people may have lost control and completely praised Jenkins, especially for getting a seinor cheerleader. I can understand where Delabonte is coming from but srsly, don't be a dumbass when it comes to this sort of thing.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

==Regarding the 'Relics of fail' items.==
Right now, out of 26 different relics, a total of 10 of them have the suffix "of fail". I think that the 'of fail' tag on the end of many of the items is a bit stale. Not only does it make them all seem generic and without personality, but 'of fail' just seems kind of juvenile. I'd like to start a vote to change the majority of the names to give them more flair, so they stand out more. Talked about it in IRC a few nights ago, and the consensus seemed to agree. One of the names thrown around was to change "Plush Boobs of Fail" into something along the lines of "Plush Boobs of Repressed Sexuality." Give them names that indicate their use, descriptors that tell you about the item before you even read about it. "Pokewalker of Sloth" or "Pokewalker of Inactivity". Even if the 'of fail' tag is supposed to indicate that Chris created it himself, there's no reason for the Plush Boobs and Sailor Moon Poster to have it included. Let me know what you think. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 06:55, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I concur with Brofose. Fail has become a bit of a lame old meme, and while it is one of the most apt words to describe anything about CWC, I believe the Relics would do well to be assigned new titles. [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 07:08, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

:I don't really mind the "of fail" but I wouldn't miss it either.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 12:30, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I think this sounds like a pretty good idea. Perhaps we should consider some kind of formal way to do this. Like, we could have something in the community portal for users to suggest new suffixes, then from those like 5 favorites are picked out and a poll is taken for the new suffix. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 22:00, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for pointing that out. Also, I'd like to talk to you about something regarding some recent edits. [[User:CrassCrab|CrassCrab]] 19:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Welcome Template ==

The welcome template no longer requires any parameters - but it works better if substituted. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 02:05, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

== My jerkop status ==

A week ago, Cogs temporarily removed my jerkop status (for deleting [[Template:UnderWatch|this]] template), but said I could ask you to give it back to me after a week or so [[User_talk:Cogsdev#About_deleting_that_template|here]]. So now I'm just asking you if I can have it back, please.--[[User:Jerkop|Jerkop]] 17:55, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

==SIR==
I have been away for a while. I have come back to be a serious editor again. I was looking through the to-do list with every intent of starting to crack down on transcribing Mumbles... then I saw an interesting tidbit. It still says that images should be limited to 150kb. Is this truly the case? Because the upload screen says keep it to 7mb. If 150kb is really the case, then perhaps I should go on another resize campaign. I am up for it, I have time. I am asking you sir, if this is where I should focus my efforts. Tell me and I will get started right away. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 14:05, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
*The 150 kb thing isn't so much important nowadays since we have the new space and space isn't quite as limited, not to mention people are doing a good job at not uploading huge ass images. Transcribing Mumble chats would probably be a more worthwhile and rewarding en devour though, IMHO. Godspeed to you.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:56, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
:*Roger that, I'm on it... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 18:16, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

== Sonichu TAS transcripts ==

Would it be alright to upload transcripts from the animated Sonichu series? [[User:CosmicFeeling|CosmicFeeling]] 19:29, 3 August 2010 (PDT)

==Oedipus confirmation?==
:Yo Champ, could you pop over to Snorlax's talk page? I sourced a quote about one of Chris's more disturbing habits-- sleeping in his mother's arms-- which apparently came from you. I don't want to put it on Snorlax's page until we get a confirmation that it's accurate, so if you could verify that before it goes out there, I would be in your debt. Thanks, man. [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 20:52, 26 August 2010 (PDT)

Talk:Barbara Chandler

2010-08-25T17:23:01Z

Sygerrik: /* Is this verifiable? */

Despite her being a slutty slutty slut whore earlier in her life, I truely feel sorry for barbera, she didnt deserve chris, or that squaler of her house. -[[User:CJB8895|Cody]]
* She didn't have to have a kid with Bob, she had Cole, and Bob had his kids. Though it probably wasn't documented in the early 80s, the fact that both of them were over 40 when Chris was born made the likelihood of him being born autistic higher. Plus, as mentioned everywhere else, Chris wasn't ''born'' Chris. Someone ''made'' him that way in those formative years. [[User:Isarko|Isarko]] 06:36, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

I feel like somewhere in this page it should be mentioned how her voice is identical to Chris'. In one prank call video I couldn't tell it was her until she referred to Bob as her husband. [[User:Sallyfox|Sallyfox]] 06:09, 25 December 2009 (CET)

GodJesus damn. Now I can easily see the effects of keeping around a 28 year old autistic manchild for so long. She looked a LOT better (and a lot less like Snorlax) in [[:File:0467-CWC18th20.jpg|this image]]. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 01:57, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
:It may be simply that she, like anyone who would have to put up with somebody like chris, just gave up on life. The picture with Desi pretty much says it all.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 07:05, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

== CWCipedia Ad ==
Yeah. You know we need this in there. As well as the image and a space set aside for the reaction that she and Chris will inevitably give. Remember how he reacted when Megan in the original picture was mistaken as Crystal? Well this will induce 10 times the ammount of tard rage. ''From both of them''. Now thats something i'm going to want to see. Who else here wants to see Barbara do a youtube rant? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:43, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:I think you might be jumping the gun. Barbra's nowhere near as dumb or volatile as Chris, I doubt you'll see her on camera anytime soon.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 22:02, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
*I can dream dammit! --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 22:05, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
* Chris's reaction to the new ad was an absolute letdown. All he said was to tell us to complain to Mao about the ad and he never even mentioned what kind of ad it was. I had to scroll through '''multiple''' pages, dodging that nasty ass picture just to find it. Thanks a lot for scarring us, whoever the fuck made that. --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 23:27, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
*I think that'll be Mao. Personally I think that its not much more disturbing than CWC's Rule 34 of Mary Lee Walsh. I'm more disturbed by the fact that after he tard raged so hard over the original shecameforCWC being mistaken for Crystal that hes all cool and calm about a huge detailed rendering of him doing the same thing to his elderly mother. And bear in mind that his mother is real, unlike Crystal. I think that says volumes about Chris. And his mother can't be too happy once she finds out, can she? Somehow I don't think he'll ever tell her though. Someone should call the Chandlers and inform them that porn of Barbara has surfaced on Chris's site. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:37, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
* Just wait him out. Speculation is that he might have not noticed the ad--he might have been holding up paper in front of the screen and isn't aware that the ad has changed. He spent 17 minutes making changes to templates, and then quit, which makes me think that he finally saw the image. Also, his last edit was changing a mailbag template--which gives me the feeling that he was about to answer one when he saw the ad. Or he might not have realized that it's supposed to be Snorlax.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 03:51, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
*If he hasn't seen it yet (which is likely given his reaction so far) then I think that we'll be hearing all about this in his next few videos. And for years and years Chris will tell girls that he meets in the mall all about it, and oh the laughs that will be produced. I still think that we can expect some sort of reaction out of Barbara too. If he tells her. He might, given his policy on honesty. However his honesty also dictates that he'll lie about things to keep his parents happy. But mostly only if it benefits him. If he stands to lose from telling his parents then he won't tell them. So I think someone should call the Chandlers and tell them. Break it gently though, lest the lumberjack have another heart attack. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 18:12, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== Source is broken. ==

In the citations, the sixth one, a PVCC thread, is not public information. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 20:37, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

==Is this verifiable?==
I am not adding this yet because it's a pretty huge deal and I want to be 100% on it first. There's a user here-- I wish I could remember who-- whose userpage is full of various observations from people on /cwc/, #sonichu, PVCC etc. One of the posts from PVCC is the note that Chris sometimes sleeps (slept) with his mother. Not having sex. Obviously not. But apparently they'd watch movies together sitting on his bed, and then he'd sort of curl up next to her and fall asleep, with her asleep holding him. At first I couldn't believe it, but this is Chris. And if this is true it absolutely belongs on the page. It's pretty clear he has a strong Oedipal fixation on her (part of being stuck in a childlike state of development) and this makes sense.
I'll go hunt for the quote. In the meantime, can anyone corroborate this? It seems almost a bridge too far even for our manchild. [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 10:17, 25 August 2010 (PDT)

:BAM found it. Here we go: "This is something I just learned from Ivy, and this corresponds with what a field agent has confirmed about Chris has seen with Chris getting 'touchy' around Snorlax when Bob isn't looking. It's - Chris likes to sleep with his mother. According to Ivy, what Snorlax will do is come into Chris's room, the two will watch movies and lay down on the bed as Chris holds her, then they both fall asleep. In his bed.They use to do it downstairs on the couch but Bob started bitching about it, telling Chris to grow up and such. Yes, this is very shocking and hard to believe. But considering the prevailing opinion is that Chris wants a mommy he can fuck, this adds a new level to this analysis. [. . .] I mean, Snorlax and Bob don't even sleep in the same room anymore, they've been married for some time and there's usually a point where a marriage becomes more of a friendship, and both Chris and Barb are both human in that they need some intimate contact and affection. But the thing is, while this is normal of small children to want to cuddle with their mothers, it's not fucking normal for 27 year olds to do this. And I think there's actually a period in childhood development (normal one, anyway) where a child learns that they can't have mommy all to themselves but they have to share her with daddy. Looks like Chris never really reached that realization. Freud would have a fucking field day with Chris. Seriously though, I imagine one day we will get Chris confirming this, as he makes a video saying 'Yes, I do sleep with my mother, but what child does not sleep their mothers at some point in their lives?'"
Apparently via Champthom. Champ, can you confirm? Did you say that/is it true? [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 10:22, 25 August 2010 (PDT)

Talk:Barbara Chandler

2010-08-25T17:22:31Z

Sygerrik: /* Is this verifiable? */

Despite her being a slutty slutty slut whore earlier in her life, I truely feel sorry for barbera, she didnt deserve chris, or that squaler of her house. -[[User:CJB8895|Cody]]
* She didn't have to have a kid with Bob, she had Cole, and Bob had his kids. Though it probably wasn't documented in the early 80s, the fact that both of them were over 40 when Chris was born made the likelihood of him being born autistic higher. Plus, as mentioned everywhere else, Chris wasn't ''born'' Chris. Someone ''made'' him that way in those formative years. [[User:Isarko|Isarko]] 06:36, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

I feel like somewhere in this page it should be mentioned how her voice is identical to Chris'. In one prank call video I couldn't tell it was her until she referred to Bob as her husband. [[User:Sallyfox|Sallyfox]] 06:09, 25 December 2009 (CET)

GodJesus damn. Now I can easily see the effects of keeping around a 28 year old autistic manchild for so long. She looked a LOT better (and a lot less like Snorlax) in [[:File:0467-CWC18th20.jpg|this image]]. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 01:57, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
:It may be simply that she, like anyone who would have to put up with somebody like chris, just gave up on life. The picture with Desi pretty much says it all.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 07:05, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

== CWCipedia Ad ==
Yeah. You know we need this in there. As well as the image and a space set aside for the reaction that she and Chris will inevitably give. Remember how he reacted when Megan in the original picture was mistaken as Crystal? Well this will induce 10 times the ammount of tard rage. ''From both of them''. Now thats something i'm going to want to see. Who else here wants to see Barbara do a youtube rant? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:43, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:I think you might be jumping the gun. Barbra's nowhere near as dumb or volatile as Chris, I doubt you'll see her on camera anytime soon.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 22:02, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
*I can dream dammit! --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 22:05, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
* Chris's reaction to the new ad was an absolute letdown. All he said was to tell us to complain to Mao about the ad and he never even mentioned what kind of ad it was. I had to scroll through '''multiple''' pages, dodging that nasty ass picture just to find it. Thanks a lot for scarring us, whoever the fuck made that. --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 23:27, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
*I think that'll be Mao. Personally I think that its not much more disturbing than CWC's Rule 34 of Mary Lee Walsh. I'm more disturbed by the fact that after he tard raged so hard over the original shecameforCWC being mistaken for Crystal that hes all cool and calm about a huge detailed rendering of him doing the same thing to his elderly mother. And bear in mind that his mother is real, unlike Crystal. I think that says volumes about Chris. And his mother can't be too happy once she finds out, can she? Somehow I don't think he'll ever tell her though. Someone should call the Chandlers and inform them that porn of Barbara has surfaced on Chris's site. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:37, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
* Just wait him out. Speculation is that he might have not noticed the ad--he might have been holding up paper in front of the screen and isn't aware that the ad has changed. He spent 17 minutes making changes to templates, and then quit, which makes me think that he finally saw the image. Also, his last edit was changing a mailbag template--which gives me the feeling that he was about to answer one when he saw the ad. Or he might not have realized that it's supposed to be Snorlax.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 03:51, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
*If he hasn't seen it yet (which is likely given his reaction so far) then I think that we'll be hearing all about this in his next few videos. And for years and years Chris will tell girls that he meets in the mall all about it, and oh the laughs that will be produced. I still think that we can expect some sort of reaction out of Barbara too. If he tells her. He might, given his policy on honesty. However his honesty also dictates that he'll lie about things to keep his parents happy. But mostly only if it benefits him. If he stands to lose from telling his parents then he won't tell them. So I think someone should call the Chandlers and tell them. Break it gently though, lest the lumberjack have another heart attack. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 18:12, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== Source is broken. ==

In the citations, the sixth one, a PVCC thread, is not public information. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 20:37, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

==Is this verifiable?==
I am not adding this yet because it's a pretty huge deal and I want to be 100% on it first. There's a user here-- I wish I could remember who-- whose userpage is full of various observations from people on /cwc/, #sonichu, PVCC etc. One of the posts from PVCC is the note that Chris sometimes sleeps (slept) with his mother. Not having sex. Obviously not. But apparently they'd watch movies together sitting on his bed, and then he'd sort of curl up next to her and fall asleep, with her asleep holding him. At first I couldn't believe it, but this is Chris. And if this is true it absolutely belongs on the page. It's pretty clear he has a strong Oedipal fixation on her (part of being stuck in a childlike state of development) and this makes sense.
I'll go hunt for the quote. In the meantime, can anyone corroborate this? It seems almost a bridge too far even for our manchild. [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 10:17, 25 August 2010 (PDT)

-BAM found it. Here we go: "This is something I just learned from Ivy, and this corresponds with what a field agent has confirmed about Chris has seen with Chris getting 'touchy' around Snorlax when Bob isn't looking. It's - Chris likes to sleep with his mother. According to Ivy, what Snorlax will do is come into Chris's room, the two will watch movies and lay down on the bed as Chris holds her, then they both fall asleep. In his bed.They use to do it downstairs on the couch but Bob started bitching about it, telling Chris to grow up and such. Yes, this is very shocking and hard to believe. But considering the prevailing opinion is that Chris wants a mommy he can fuck, this adds a new level to this analysis. [. . .] I mean, Snorlax and Bob don't even sleep in the same room anymore, they've been married for some time and there's usually a point where a marriage becomes more of a friendship, and both Chris and Barb are both human in that they need some intimate contact and affection. But the thing is, while this is normal of small children to want to cuddle with their mothers, it's not fucking normal for 27 year olds to do this. And I think there's actually a period in childhood development (normal one, anyway) where a child learns that they can't have mommy all to themselves but they have to share her with daddy. Looks like Chris never really reached that realization. Freud would have a fucking field day with Chris. Seriously though, I imagine one day we will get Chris confirming this, as he makes a video saying 'Yes, I do sleep with my mother, but what child does not sleep their mothers at some point in their lives?'"
Apparently via Champthom. Champ, can you confirm? Did you say that/is it true? [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 10:22, 25 August 2010 (PDT)

Talk:Barbara Chandler

2010-08-25T17:17:22Z

Sygerrik:

Clyde Cash

2010-08-19T14:30:17Z

Sygerrik: Undo revision 109929 by G0dofThunderG0dofWar (talk)

[[Image:TheRealClydeCash.jpg|thumb|left|The real Clyde Cash, [[Secret Weapon|according to Chris]].]]
[[Image:ChrisVSClyde.JPG|thumb|Artist's interpretation of the epic struggle.]]
[[Image:325504 - Chris-chan clyde cash.jpg|thumb|[[Homos|STRAIGHT]] ANGER]]

{{quote|Yer butt's gonna be in trouble|[[Barbara Chandler]] on Clyde Cash<ref>[[Hooker incident#Aftermath|The Hooker Incident]]</ref>}}
{{quote|I'LL STRANGLE THAT CLYDE CASH!|[[Chris]] on Clyde Cash<ref>[[CWC Update!!!!! 27 March 2009]]</ref>}}
{{quote|Then the dragon stood on the sand of the seashore. I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns, seven heads, and ten royal crowns on its horns. On its heads were blasphemous names.|The Bible on Clyde Cash}}

'''Clyde Cash''' (alias '''Gregg Mays''' - that's [[Captain's Log, Stardate January 8th, 2009|Gregg with three g's]]) ([[Wikipedia:Born on the Fourth of July|04 July]] [[Wikipedia:1976|1976]]) was the older brother of [[Ryan Cash]] who decided to take vengeance against Chris after his brother killed himself. He was the former leader of [[The Miscreants]]. His close friend is [[Bryan Bash]], he once employed [[The Man in the Pickle Suit]] (Jew variety) and his cousin is [[Vivian Gee]].

In Chris's revised [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page, Clyde is referred to as a '''Starscream troll'''. This is a reference to the [[Transformers]] character Starscream, who would often switch sides or plot to overthrow [[Megatron]] behind the scenes. Chris says this because Clyde Cash allegedly killed [[BlueSpike]].

==In the beginning==

For the longest time Clyde had no problems with Chris. Although he disapproved of some of the content, he was pleased to see the joy the franchise had brought his brother Ryan. Every night before bed Clyde would read Ryan the latest [[Sonichu]] adventure, until Ryan had dozed off to sleep (usually with the first three pages.)

This changed when Chris announced, in his usual knee-jerk fashion, that he was going to stop drawing Sonichu comics. Clyde tried comforting the upset Ryan to no avail. On the 24th of December Clyde entered Ryan's bedroom, intending to share a tray of freshly baked gingerbread men, only to find the lifeless form of his brother swinging from a light fixture. The dark silhouette of his body threw ghostly shadows across the room.

On the desk Clyde found a note - apparently the pain of not knowing whether Crystal would be released from the Dark Hole Mirror was too much for the young Ryan to bear. Clyde screamed but no sounds would come out. Collapsing to the floor, he swore undying revenge on Christian Weston Chandler.
{{clear}}

==The torment begins==
[[Image:ClydesDriverlicense.jpg|thumb|left|Virginia: No longer for virgins]]
[[Image:Clydecashandannamclerran.jpg|thumb|Clyde Cash steals moar womenz]]

Clyde's first act was to rape [[Panda]]<ref>[[IRC (21 January 2009)]]</ref> but it did absolutely nothing to Chris as he simply moved onto the next [[gal-pal]]. Then, he posed as Gregg Mays (a web designer working for [[Nintendo]]) to gain access to [[Sonichu.net]]. Holding the site for ransom, he told Chris to make a video proclaiming he was gay. He then told him to make a [[Captain's Log, Stardate January 12th, 2009|video declaring his straightness]]. Eventually, Chris regained access to the site. Striking again, Clyde worked with a [[troll]] and got rid of the domain. Chris, being resilient, bought Sonichu.info. With the help of Panda, Clyde managed to gain access again.

It was around this time that [[Takashi Tezuka]] and [[Jay Z]] were doing their ''[[Animal Crossing]]'' game project. Clyde then decided to make things more interesting and posed as [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] to destroy any chance of the project. Teaming up with [[Reggie Fils-Aimé]], they created the [[Miyamoto Saga]].

[[Julie]] set up a [[Mumble]] chat in which Chris could communicate with [[Trolls|true and honest Sonichu fans]]. Clyde stalked Julie while infiltrating these chats to confront Chris. He began throwing demands to Chris such as [[Captain's Log, Stardate February 10th, 2009|cleaning his room]]. Chris at the same time also bought SonichuandRosechu.com. Clyde got access yet again, this time with the help of Julie. In the end, it was revealed that Julie was a 13 year old boy and that Clyde had staged the whole thing.

After that, he sent out his trusted [[Man in the Pickle Suit|Jew friend]] to scout out Chris's whereabouts. The Jew turned [[Robert Simmons V]] into a troll and infiltrated the church. He then stole Chris's one and only date, [[Emily]].

When [[Ivy]] came along, he decided to continually harass her and despite Chris making a few threats, Ivy eventually gave in and killed herself.

Oh, and Clyde also hacked into the [[PSN]] a few times. But then [[Jack Thaddeus]] did him one better...

And to think all this was done due to Chris not caring about one fan's tragic suicide.
{{clear}}

==In the comic==
[[Image:CWCsClyde.jpg|thumb|left|Clyde, left, with [[Ivy]]]]
[[Image:ClydeJackGay.JPG|thumb|Artist's depiction of Clyde and Jack's final moments]]

In the [[comic]] Cly(de) is a villain working for [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. Apart from capturing [[Ivy]] and getting into a fight with Chris, he initially only appeared on [[CWC Music Video Holding Out For a Hero]], officially [[Sonichu Special 1]]. Not much is known about Clyde, other than he lives in a mansion and owns a pickle gun and "slander ray."

He made his first full appearance in [[Sonichu 10]] as the 4-cent_garbage building is collapsing. When [[Jason Kendrick Howell]] escapes, he condemns him and [[Jack Thaddeus]] for being [[homo]] trolls. When Beel escapes, he, too, condemns the two for their actions, saying that being homo trolls that are "slandering and tarnishing a innocent man's good name" is just as evil as being an assistant for Adolf Hitler. With no option left, Clyde and Jack jump into the 66+6 story elevator shaft to their suicidal deaths.
{{Clear}}

== Currently ==
[[Image:GaySpiderMan.jpg|thumb|left|Clyde Cash and his buddy [[Jack Thaddeus]].]]
[[File:ClydeandLovelyweather.jpg|thumb|Clyde with [[The Wallflower]].]]

After Clyde faked his death for reasons unknown, he came back with a vengeance. Chris is not very pleased.

When not battling [[Liquid Chris]] for the hand of [[Kacey]], Chris spends his time trying to convince Clyde Cash, alias Gregg Mays (or "Gregg Mays, alias Clyde Cash," depending on which name he remembers first) to face him in one on one battle. Chris has recorded several feats of strength through a combination of Kacey trying to get him to get into [[obesity|shape]] and a desire to frighten Clyde with his [[Chris and Health|bulging muscles]].

He had a picture to blackmail Clyde, but ultimately nothing came of it other than a series of videos where Chris tries to torture Clyde.<Ref>[[ClydeGoingOnGregg1]], [[Clyde's Buddy Matt Getting SUPER-LAID!!!]], [[Clyde is Weaker than Water]], [[Getting Foam Ed]], [[Twin Falling Towers]], [[It will never end]] and [[Apology for 9/11 Joke]]</ref> Clyde scoffed at the [[No More Jokes|final video]].

However, because of the negative reaction to [[Sonichu Special 4]], Chris, in the [[CWCipedia]] mailbag, makes clear that he would only sit and talk cooperatively with Clyde to get him to stop harassing him.

In [[Don't Mess With Me|a recent video]], Chris decided to revisit his old nemesis, believing he was the reason why he lost "[[The Wallflower]]". In it, he is shown fighting Clyde, then pulling a knife and slitting Clyde's throat as a warning to all trolls.
{{clear}}

==Fan videos==

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| Subject =
| Video Type =
| Other Info =
}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = Shit Was So Cash!
| video = {{#ev:youtube|32XiZC2yG1Y}}
| Stardate = 25 April 2010
| Maker = Psycatalyst
| Subject =
| Video Type =
| Other Info =
}}

==See also==
{{Fan art}}
*[[A CWC Audition]]
*[[(Clyde's) Trollsta's Paradise]]

==Sauces==
<references />
==External links==
*[http://www.youtube.com/user/TheGreggMays Gregg's YouTube account]
*[http://www.youtube.com/user/IBAClydeCash Clyde's new YouTube account]
*[http://www.mediafire.com/?jmmyzlznhfa Post-date conversations] (part with Clyde begins at about 4:35)
*[http://en.tackfilm.se/?id=1263141624839RA18 An International Tribute to Teh Graet Clyde Cash]

{{Clyde Saga}}
{{Trolls}}
{{DEFAULTSORT:Cash, Clyde}}
[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Trolls]]

Clyde Cash

2010-08-19T14:29:35Z

Sygerrik: Undo revision 109928 by G0dofThunderG0dofWar (talk)

[[Image:TheRealClydeCash.jpg|thumb|left|The real Clyde Cash, [[Secret Weapon|according to Chris]].]]
[[Image:ChrisVSClyde.JPG|thumb|Artist's interpretation of the epic struggle.]]
[[Image:325504 - Chris-chan clyde cash.jpg|thumb|[[Homos|STRAIGHT]] ANGER]]

{{quote|Yer butt's gonna be in trouble|[[Barbara Chandler]] on Clyde Cash<ref>[[Hooker incident#Aftermath|The Hooker Incident]]</ref>}}
{{quote|I'LL STRANGLE THAT CLYDE CASH!|[[Chris]] on Clyde Cash<ref>[[CWC Update!!!!! 27 March 2009]]</ref>}}
{{quote|Then the dragon stood on the sand of the seashore. I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns, seven heads, and ten royal crowns on its horns. On its heads were blasphemous names.|The Bible on Clyde Cash}}

'''Clyde Cash''' (alias '''Gregg Mays''' - that's [[Captain's Log, Stardate January 8th, 2009|Gregg with three g's]]) ([[Wikipedia:Born on the Fourth of July|04 July]] [[Wikipedia:1976|1976]]) was the older brother of [[Ryan Cash]] who decided to take vengeance against Chris after his brother killed himself. He was the former leader of [[The Miscreants]]. His close friend is [[Bryan Bash]], he once employed [[The Man in the Pickle Suit]] (Jew variety) and his cousin is [[Vivian Gee]].

In Chris's revised [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page, Clyde is referred to as a '''Starscream troll'''. This is a reference to the [[Transformers]] character Starscream, who would often switch sides or plot to overthrow [[Megatron]] behind the scenes. Chris says this because Clyde Cash allegedly killed [[BlueSpike]].

==In the beginning==

For the longest time Clyde had no problems with Chris. Although he disapproved of some of the content, he was pleased to see the joy the franchise had brought his brother Ryan. Every night before bed Clyde would read Ryan the latest [[Sonichu]] adventure, until Ryan had dozed off to sleep (usually with the first three pages.)

This changed when Chris announced, in his usual knee-jerk fashion, that he was going to stop drawing Sonichu comics. Clyde tried comforting the upset Ryan to no avail. On the 24th of December Clyde entered Ryan's bedroom, intending to share a tray of freshly baked gingerbread men, only to find the lifeless form of his brother swinging from a light fixture. The dark silhouette of his body threw ghostly shadows across the room.

On the desk Clyde found a note - apparently the pain of not knowing whether Crystal would be released from the Dark Hole Mirror was too much for the young Ryan to bear. Clyde screamed but no sounds would come out. Collapsing to the floor, he swore undying revenge on Christian Weston Chandler.
{{clear}}

==The torment begins==
[[Image:ClydesDriverlicense.jpg|thumb|left|Clyde]]
[[Image:Clydecashandannamclerran.jpg|thumb|Clyde Cash steals moar womenz]]

Clyde's first act was to rape [[Panda]]<ref>[[IRC (21 January 2009)]]</ref> but it did absolutely nothing to Chris as he simply moved onto the next [[gal-pal]]. Then, he posed as Gregg Mays (a web designer working for [[Nintendo]]) to gain access to [[Sonichu.net]]. Holding the site for ransom, he told Chris to make a video proclaiming he was gay. He then told him to make a [[Captain's Log, Stardate January 12th, 2009|video declaring his straightness]]. Eventually, Chris regained access to the site. Striking again, Clyde worked with a [[troll]] and got rid of the domain. Chris, being resilient, bought Sonichu.info. With the help of Panda, Clyde managed to gain access again.

It was around this time that [[Takashi Tezuka]] and [[Jay Z]] were doing their ''[[Animal Crossing]]'' game project. Clyde then decided to make things more interesting and posed as [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] to destroy any chance of the project. Teaming up with [[Reggie Fils-Aimé]], they created the [[Miyamoto Saga]].

[[Julie]] set up a [[Mumble]] chat in which Chris could communicate with [[Trolls|true and honest Sonichu fans]]. Clyde stalked Julie while infiltrating these chats to confront Chris. He began throwing demands to Chris such as [[Captain's Log, Stardate February 10th, 2009|cleaning his room]]. Chris at the same time also bought SonichuandRosechu.com. Clyde got access yet again, this time with the help of Julie. In the end, it was revealed that Julie was a 13 year old boy and that Clyde had staged the whole thing.

After that, he sent out his trusted [[Man in the Pickle Suit|Jew friend]] to scout out Chris's whereabouts. The Jew turned [[Robert Simmons V]] into a troll and infiltrated the church. He then stole Chris's one and only date, [[Emily]].

When [[Ivy]] came along, he decided to continually harass her and despite Chris making a few threats, Ivy eventually gave in and killed herself.

Oh, and Clyde also hacked into the [[PSN]] a few times. But then [[Jack Thaddeus]] did him one better...

And to think all this was done due to Chris not caring about one fan's tragic suicide.
{{clear}}

==In the comic==
[[Image:CWCsClyde.jpg|thumb|left|Clyde, left, with [[Ivy]]]]
[[Image:ClydeJackGay.JPG|thumb|Artist's depiction of Clyde and Jack's final moments]]

In the [[comic]] Cly(de) is a villain working for [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. Apart from capturing [[Ivy]] and getting into a fight with Chris, he initially only appeared on [[CWC Music Video Holding Out For a Hero]], officially [[Sonichu Special 1]]. Not much is known about Clyde, other than he lives in a mansion and owns a pickle gun and "slander ray."

He made his first full appearance in [[Sonichu 10]] as the 4-cent_garbage building is collapsing. When [[Jason Kendrick Howell]] escapes, he condemns him and [[Jack Thaddeus]] for being [[homo]] trolls. When Beel escapes, he, too, condemns the two for their actions, saying that being homo trolls that are "slandering and tarnishing a innocent man's good name" is just as evil as being an assistant for Adolf Hitler. With no option left, Clyde and Jack jump into the 66+6 story elevator shaft to their suicidal deaths.
{{Clear}}

== Currently ==
[[Image:GaySpiderMan.jpg|thumb|left|Clyde Cash and his buddy [[Jack Thaddeus]].]]
[[File:ClydeandLovelyweather.jpg|thumb|Clyde with [[The Wallflower]].]]

After Clyde faked his death for reasons unknown, he came back with a vengeance. Chris is not very pleased.

When not battling [[Liquid Chris]] for the hand of [[Kacey]], Chris spends his time trying to convince Clyde Cash, alias Gregg Mays (or "Gregg Mays, alias Clyde Cash," depending on which name he remembers first) to face him in one on one battle. Chris has recorded several feats of strength through a combination of Kacey trying to get him to get into [[obesity|shape]] and a desire to frighten Clyde with his [[Chris and Health|bulging muscles]].

He had a picture to blackmail Clyde, but ultimately nothing came of it other than a series of videos where Chris tries to torture Clyde.<Ref>[[ClydeGoingOnGregg1]], [[Clyde's Buddy Matt Getting SUPER-LAID!!!]], [[Clyde is Weaker than Water]], [[Getting Foam Ed]], [[Twin Falling Towers]], [[It will never end]] and [[Apology for 9/11 Joke]]</ref> Clyde scoffed at the [[No More Jokes|final video]].

However, because of the negative reaction to [[Sonichu Special 4]], Chris, in the [[CWCipedia]] mailbag, makes clear that he would only sit and talk cooperatively with Clyde to get him to stop harassing him.

In [[Don't Mess With Me|a recent video]], Chris decided to revisit his old nemesis, believing he was the reason why he lost "[[The Wallflower]]". In it, he is shown fighting Clyde, then pulling a knife and slitting Clyde's throat as a warning to all trolls.
{{clear}}

==Fan videos==

{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = Chris-chan Loves Clyde Cash
| video = {{#ev:youtube|73jIxs5yQLg}}
| Stardate = 17 April 2009
| Maker = [http://www.youtube.com/user/CWCvillelulz CWCvillelulz]
| Subject =
| Video Type =
| Other Info = It's a love/hate relationship.
}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = Chris-Chan KILLED Clyde Cash (Never Before Seen Footage)
| video = {{#ev:youtube|FiTVga0G8Ws}}
| Stardate = 7 June 2009
| Maker = [http://www.youtube.com/user/TheClydeCash TheClydeCash]
| Subject =
| Video Type =
| Other Info =
}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = Shit Was So Cash!
| video = {{#ev:youtube|32XiZC2yG1Y}}
| Stardate = 25 April 2010
| Maker = Psycatalyst
| Subject =
| Video Type =
| Other Info =
}}

==See also==
{{Fan art}}
*[[A CWC Audition]]
*[[(Clyde's) Trollsta's Paradise]]

==Sauces==
<references />
==External links==
*[http://www.youtube.com/user/TheGreggMays Gregg's YouTube account]
*[http://www.youtube.com/user/IBAClydeCash Clyde's new YouTube account]
*[http://www.mediafire.com/?jmmyzlznhfa Post-date conversations] (part with Clyde begins at about 4:35)
*[http://en.tackfilm.se/?id=1263141624839RA18 An International Tribute to Teh Graet Clyde Cash]

{{Clyde Saga}}
{{Trolls}}
{{DEFAULTSORT:Cash, Clyde}}
[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Trolls]]

Clyde Cash

2010-08-19T14:28:32Z

Sygerrik: Undo revision 109930 by G0dofThunderG0dofWar (talk)

[[Image:TheRealClydeCash.jpg|thumb|left|The real Clyde Cash, [[Secret Weapon|according to Chris]].]]
[[Image:ChrisVSClyde.JPG|thumb|Artist's interpretation of the epic struggle.]]
[[Image:325504 - Chris-chan clyde cash.jpg|thumb|[[Homos|STRAIGHT]] ANGER]]

{{quote|Yer butt's gonna be in trouble|[[Barbara Chandler]] on Clyde Cash<ref>[[Hooker incident#Aftermath|The Hooker Incident]]</ref>}}
{{quote|I'LL STRANGLE THAT CLYDE CASH!|[[Chris]] on Clyde Cash<ref>[[CWC Update!!!!! 27 March 2009]]</ref>}}
{{quote|Then the dragon stood on the sand of the seashore. I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns, seven heads, and ten royal crowns on its horns. On its heads were blasphemous names.|The Bible on Clyde Cash}}

'''Clyde Cash''' (alias '''Gregg Mays''' - that's [[Captain's Log, Stardate January 8th, 2009|Gregg with three g's]]) ([[Wikipedia:Born on the Fourth of July|04 July]] [[Wikipedia:1976|1976]]) was the older brother of [[Ryan Cash]] who decided to take vengeance against Chris after his brother killed himself. He was the former leader of [[The Miscreants]]. His close friend is [[Bryan Bash]], he once employed [[The Man in the Pickle Suit]] (Jew variety) and his cousin is [[Vivian Gee]].

In Chris's revised [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page, Clyde is referred to as a '''Starscream troll'''. This is a reference to the [[Transformers]] character Starscream, who would often switch sides or plot to overthrow [[Megatron]] behind the scenes. Chris says this because Clyde Cash allegedly killed [[BlueSpike]].

==In the beginning==

For the longest time Clyde had no problems with Chris. Although he disapproved of some of the content, he was pleased to see the joy the franchise had brought his brother Ryan. Every night before bed Clyde would read Ryan the latest [[Sonichu]] adventure, until Ryan had dozed off to sleep (usually with the first three pages.)

This changed when Chris announced, in his usual knee-jerk fashion, that he was going to stop drawing Sonichu comics. Clyde tried comforting the upset Ryan to no avail. On the 24th of December Clyde entered Ryan's bedroom, intending to share a tray of freshly baked gingerbread men, only to find the lifeless form of his brother swinging from a light fixture. The dark silhouette of his body threw ghostly shadows across the room.

On the desk Clyde found a note - apparently the pain of not knowing whether Crystal would be released from the Dark Hole Mirror was too much for the young Ryan to bear. Clyde screamed but no sounds would come out. Collapsing to the floor, he swore undying revenge on Christian Weston Chandler.
{{clear}}

==The torment begins==
[[Image:ClydesDriverlicense.jpg|thumb|left|Clyde]]
[[Image:Clydecashandannamclerran.jpg|thumb|Clyde Cash steals moar womenz]]

While Christian was [[ENJOYING]] Life; this dirty [[Sumbah]] HAD NONE AND DECIDED TO TROLL ME!
{{clear}}

==In the comic==
[[Image:CWCsClyde.jpg|thumb|left|Clyde, left, with [[Ivy]]]]
[[Image:ClydeJackGay.JPG|thumb|Artist's depiction of Clyde and Jack's final moments]]

In the [[comic]] Cly(de) is a villain working for [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. Apart from capturing [[Ivy]] and getting into a fight with Chris, he initially only appeared on [[CWC Music Video Holding Out For a Hero]], officially [[Sonichu Special 1]]. Not much is known about Clyde, other than he lives in a mansion and owns a pickle gun and "slander ray."

He made his first full appearance in [[Sonichu 10]] as the 4-cent_garbage building is collapsing. When [[Jason Kendrick Howell]] escapes, he condemns him and [[Jack Thaddeus]] for being [[homo]] trolls. When Beel escapes, he, too, condemns the two for their actions, saying that being homo trolls that are "slandering and tarnishing a innocent man's good name" is just as evil as being an assistant for Adolf Hitler. With no option left, Clyde and Jack jump into the 66+6 story elevator shaft to their suicidal deaths.
{{Clear}}

== Currently ==
[[Image:GaySpiderMan.jpg|thumb|left|Clyde Cash and his buddy [[Jack Thaddeus]].]]
[[File:ClydeandLovelyweather.jpg|thumb|Clyde with [[The Wallflower]].]]

After Clyde faked his death for reasons unknown, he came back with a vengeance. Chris is not very pleased.

When not battling [[Liquid Chris]] for the hand of [[Kacey]], Chris spends his time trying to convince Clyde Cash, alias Gregg Mays (or "Gregg Mays, alias Clyde Cash," depending on which name he remembers first) to face him in one on one battle. Chris has recorded several feats of strength through a combination of Kacey trying to get him to get into [[obesity|shape]] and a desire to frighten Clyde with his [[Chris and Health|bulging muscles]].

He had a picture to blackmail Clyde, but ultimately nothing came of it other than a series of videos where Chris tries to torture Clyde.<Ref>[[ClydeGoingOnGregg1]], [[Clyde's Buddy Matt Getting SUPER-LAID!!!]], [[Clyde is Weaker than Water]], [[Getting Foam Ed]], [[Twin Falling Towers]], [[It will never end]] and [[Apology for 9/11 Joke]]</ref> Clyde scoffed at the [[No More Jokes|final video]].

However, because of the negative reaction to [[Sonichu Special 4]], Chris, in the [[CWCipedia]] mailbag, makes clear that he would only sit and talk cooperatively with Clyde to get him to stop harassing him.

In [[Don't Mess With Me|a recent video]], Chris decided to revisit his old nemesis, believing he was the reason why he lost "[[The Wallflower]]". In it, he is shown fighting Clyde, then pulling a knife and slitting Clyde's throat as a warning to all trolls.
{{clear}}

==Fan videos==

{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = Chris-chan Loves Clyde Cash
| video = {{#ev:youtube|73jIxs5yQLg}}
| Stardate = 17 April 2009
| Maker = [http://www.youtube.com/user/CWCvillelulz CWCvillelulz]
| Subject =
| Video Type =
| Other Info = It's a love/hate relationship.
}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = Chris-Chan KILLED Clyde Cash (Never Before Seen Footage)
| video = {{#ev:youtube|FiTVga0G8Ws}}
| Stardate = 7 June 2009
| Maker = [http://www.youtube.com/user/TheClydeCash TheClydeCash]
| Subject =
| Video Type =
| Other Info =
}}
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = Shit Was So Cash!
| video = {{#ev:youtube|32XiZC2yG1Y}}
| Stardate = 25 April 2010
| Maker = Psycatalyst
| Subject =
| Video Type =
| Other Info =
}}

==See also==
{{Fan art}}
*[[A CWC Audition]]
*[[(Clyde's) Trollsta's Paradise]]

==Sauces==
<references />
==External links==
*[http://www.youtube.com/user/TheGreggMays Gregg's YouTube account]
*[http://www.youtube.com/user/IBAClydeCash Clyde's new YouTube account]
*[http://www.mediafire.com/?jmmyzlznhfa Post-date conversations] (part with Clyde begins at about 4:35)
*[http://en.tackfilm.se/?id=1263141624839RA18 An International Tribute to Teh Graet Clyde Cash]

{{Clyde Saga}}
{{Trolls}}
{{DEFAULTSORT:Cash, Clyde}}
[[Category:People]]
[[Category:Trolls]]

Chris and the industry

2010-07-25T16:15:35Z

Sygerrik: /* Fan fiction and ideas from the public */

{{incomplete}}

Chris has had numerous '''aspirations to work in creative industries'''. So far, he has expressed his desire to make [[Sonichu (game)|several official Sonichu video games]], and work on a real [[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu comic]] for a real comic publisher. However, [[Chris and his Ego|for reasons best known to himself]], he elects not to find out how these industries actually work, which is quite strange; one would assume that a person seeking a career in the industries would at least take ''some'' effort to find out how the said industries work.

== Publishing ==

In the [[Sonichu Chronicles]] and [[Chris's resume|Chris's résumé]], it's revealed that Chris is under the impression that his art isn't just good, but professional quality, and that he aspires to get into the comics and video game business. The résumé reveals his widely varied skills with both pens and crayons and his desire to work as an artist for a professional comic company such as Archie Comics or Marvel, creating his Sonichu comics. There is no word on whether or not he actually submitted anything to these companies, or if they replied.

Unfortunately for Chris, the publishing industry doesn't work this way, especially not in case of "original" creations. In the case of an original work, the publishers expect complete works to be submitted to them, usually through an agent. An agent's job is to separate the wheat from the chaff and find the correct publisher for the work, taking a small percentage of the eventual profit for their reward. If the publishers take unsolicited submissions, they have to sift through a gigantic backlog (often called "slushpile") of submissions of highly varying quality, most of which end up rejected multiple times before there will be a publisher with right market in mind and the right publication schedule to allow the publication deal to go forward. The whole process can take years in case of a single work.

If comic book publishers have salaried artists, they usually need to have a portfolio of previous work, usually work that has already been published commercially, or (if the comic house is ''particularly'' lenient, and most big names aren't) there has to be evidence of a successfully self-published, high-quality comic. And even in this case, these artists usually only work on characters and plotlines that come from inside the house; it can take time before the artist is in any position to present their own ideas for comics, or use their own original characters. Even if he ''were'' able to stick in a company for a long time, he'd still need to improve his communication skills a lot. If the [[Sonichu Chronicles PowerPoint]] and various phone conversations are of any indication, he's unable to persuade his superiors that his ideas are worth working on.

In short, Chris is deluded if he thinks that any company will just pick him up and tell him to work on Sonichu comics.

Even ''if'' Chris does get in, there's also the problem with scheduling. Most comics are worked on far in advance, thus allowing for any changes concerning a book, such as plot problems, character availability changes or even cancellations. Even still, many of them maintain a certain schedule, either monthly or bi-monthly (sometimes quarterly). Very rarely do comics go bi-weekly (one every two weeks), though weekly series have been more common (DC Comics, for example, experimented with the weekly format in the 1980s with ''Action Comics Weekly'', which bombed and put the title on hiatus for a few months, returning it to its normal ''Action Comics'' title. Twenty years later, DC has churned out a number of weekly series, including ''52'', ''Countdown'' and ''Trinity''.)

Chris, however, has no schedule. His schedule consists of "whenever he has the inspiration" to work. That doesn't cut it. If Chris went with that alone, he would have a release schedule that would rival that of infamous artist [[Wikipedia:Rob Liefeld|Rob Liefeld]]. And where Liefeld, for the most part, could get away with it because he owned his own company at one point (and people have gotten him to actually do the work), if Chris pulled this kind of stunt, he'd be out on the street so fast, his head would spin.

Chris's understanding of [[Chris and copyright|copyright]] is a chapter in itself. Publishers want primarily original works, because securing the necessary rights to publish derivative works is often difficult or impossible. Chris has even [[Mailbag 29#In which Chris is an asshole|resisted attempts to educate him]] in this regard.

== Fan fiction and ideas from the public ==
Chris could approach Sega and Nintendo and ask them to make Sonichu games, comics and merchandise. This plan would also be doomed to failure, because none of the media companies want unsolicited ideas from the public. There are several reasons for this.

First, it takes effort to sift through idea piles and they can't give equal amount of thought on the bazillion ideas fans send them. While the game companies ''do'' listen to their fans, they usually just want to know if the time is ripe for something they've been planning to do. (For example, no doubt a big part of the reason why the newer ''Fire Emblem'' games got worldwide release was because the fans of Marth and Roy from ''Super Smash Bros. Melee'' were wondering aloud "why the hell isn't Nintendo releasing these games outside of Japan?") They most certainly don't have the capability of starting a whole new game project just because someone asks. If the game companies respond by saying Chris had, as he himself so [[Homemade Nintendo Power magazine|eloquently put]], "rocks in his head", then you probably don't get a slice of their precious time for making a second impression. Simply put, Chris thinks that even when the companies aren't busy with other projects, they still have time to think of ''his'' grandiose ideas ''and those things only''.

Second, there is an age-old problem in a litigious society: A fan writes to the company and says "I have this cool idea", the company says "thanks, but no thanks", one of the in-house writers comes up with the exact same idea by accident, and boom, you have a fan who's suing you for idea theft, and even if that lawsuit will usually go nowhere, it wastes perfectly usable time, energy and most of all ''money'' that could be used for more fruitful ventures. A famous example is British novelist [[Wikipedia:Terry Pratchett|Terry Pratchett]], who used to post in his Usenet fan group until one of the fans was convinced Terry had stolen his ideas.

Therefore, most media houses will just say they will not take any ideas from the public. The game industry is not an exception. This fact has been pointed out to Chris a lot of times (and at least twice by real Nintendo representatives, as evidenced by the letters he has read in the Captain's Logs<ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate August 15th, 2008]]</ref><ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate February 10th, 2009]]</ref>). Unfortunately, Chris misinterpreted all this.

Another thing that Chris disregards is the fact that writing games takes a lot of effort. In Thomas Edison's words, getting things done is "1% inspiration and 99% perspiration." Many good ideas don't get implemented. No one is going to invest energy in developing an idea alone if they don't know if the idea can be implemented. Game companies may be willing to negotiate a deal to use their properties (such as characters) in games developed by third parties, but those proposals are usually backed up by real companies, actual creative teams of developers, and serious, complete plans for games, if not outright working prototypes already. Even in the case the properties are tacked on the prototype later on, the prototypes are usually fully developed so that they can be used ''without'' those properties if the plans fall through. (Example: ''[[Wikipedia:Star Fox Adventures|Star Fox Adventures]]'' began as a game that was completely unrelated to Star Fox universe, but Nintendo felt the game was better with SF characters.)

Theoretically, it would be possible, though highly unlikely, for Sega and Nintendo to cooperate enough the make a game featuring a Sonic/Pikachu hybrid named Sonichu. They would not, however, need any input from Chris, or even his permission, to combine characters that ''they'' own. Think about it. Of course, the idea of releasing it cross-platform for ''Sony consoles'' remains yet another absurd and fevered dream on the part of Chris.

In the Sonichu Chronicles he gives [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] "permission" to use the cover to his [[hand-drawn Nintendo Power magazine|hand-drawn ''Nintendo Power'' magazine]] as the inevitable cover for when his game is created, even though it's several years old (and, in fact, even ''worse'' than Chris' current skill at art).

== Other publication channels ==

Chris hasn't even tried any self-publishing channels. The idea has only recently been addressed, with [[Clyde Cash]] posting Chris's comics on [[Wikipedia:Lulu (company)|Lulu.com]]. Chris so far has only responded by encouraging his [[fans]] not to buy them, and to simply wait for him to release the "real" versions later. According to [[Jackie e-mails Part 2]], Chris has been fixing up his pages to be published on lulu, taking an unreasonable amount of time to accomplish this amazingly simple task.

The thought of monetizing his web comic hasn't crossed his mind either. People have been annoying – nay, ''harassing'' him with advertising he didn't approve of, yet when he attempted to replace these offensive ads with ads of his own, he simply put some random advertisements on his webpage ''without actually signing any sort of advertisement contract'' — the ads didn't make him any money. There are several advertising programs that allow individual people to put ads on their personal pages and make money out of them; some of these programs are even specifically geared toward webcomic artists. Many web comics have a donation box where readers can donate money to the artist via PayPal or similar services.

It also took a while for Chris to come up with the idea of drawing on-camera, and even then, he hasn't demonstrated it too often.

== Schedule slip ==
Most webcomics have a set schedule: some update weekly, some many times a week, some daily. Some webcomics update whenever the hell the artists get inspired enough to draw a comic, and probably reserve a whole forum for people who whine about lack of updates. Most webcomic artists that update the comic three times a week consider that schedule very demanding, and webcomics that update daily usually generate revenue of some sort (ads, donations, print versions, merchandise, what-have-you), allowing the artists treat their comics like a full-day job. These are called self-sufficient webcomics. (Examples: ''Penny Arcade'', ''xkcd'')

Chris has thoroughly embraced the point of view that the comic shouldn't have a set schedule and inspiration doesn't have a deadline... while ''also'' promising us that the comic would be updated daily. On 14 [[November 2009]], Chris promised that the comic would be updated daily, and he managed to fulfill this promise for a while. By the end of [[Sonichu 10]], Chris was already placing author-substitutes in the story telling people to quit whining about the lack of updates. This is obviously not a question of punctuality, but [[Chris and hypocrisy|hypocrisy]]; Chris would avoid a lot of drama if he just admitted that there's no set schedule whatsoever after all. If one ''does'' consider this a question of punctuality, it doesn't look too good.

Chris also tends to update in spurts in an attempt to make up for missed days; this can range anywhere from three to twenty pages at a time. Most professional webcartoonists have a buffer of guest comics so that they can avoid this sort of thing, but the thought of doing so has apparently never entered Chris's [[autistic]] mind.

== Sauces ==
<references/>

== See also ==
* [[Chris and copyright]]
* [[Chris's resume]]
* [[The Sonichu Chronicles]], Chris's not-very-creative-pitch-like PowerPoint presentation
* [[CWC Personal Sonichu Presentation]], in which Chris likewise fails to sell a project idea
* [[Sonichu (game)]]

{{Chris and}}

[[Category:Chris-chan]]

Talk:Chris and English

2010-07-23T01:26:52Z

Sygerrik:

there's a difference between a spelling error (geinus or however he's been doing it for the past like what 6 years?) and typo

but i think this could be expanded to a Chris and English page imo [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 21:33, 21 October 2009 (CEST)
* Good point. --[[User:USAJAP1|USAJAP1]] 21:36, 21 October 2009 (CEST)
:*Chris and English sounds like a good idea to me. The way he talks and writes is unique, to say the least.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 21:50, 21 October 2009 (CEST)
::*Yeah, especially considering [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes|this]]. --[[User:USAJAP1|USAJAP1]] 21:57, 21 October 2009 (CEST)

== Spelling errors ==
Geinus seems to be the main one he's been making for years. Any others? Observe his grammar patterns and other shit and stuff. Yeah. stuff. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 03:53, 22 October 2009 (CEST)
*"Seinor" is one he does consistently. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:00, 23 October 2009 (CEST)

==Autism==
I haven't read the article in full yet but I don't think there's anything noting that awkward speech is usually associated with autism. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:00, 23 October 2009 (CEST)
*It didn't even occur to me. My bad. --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 17:27, 23 October 2009 (CEST)
*Many autistics (at least aspies; you know, the ones whom Chris thinks are not actually autistic) are actually very precise and pendantic about grammar and spelling in a way that is quite unlike Chris. It wasn't for nothing that Hans Asperger called the kids he studied "little professors." --[[User:Doomknight|Doomknight]] 03:52, 2 December 2009 (CET)
*Likewise, some of the semantics thing is an autism thing. Like Chris answering "yes" to "Do you listen to music while drawing?" is an autistic thing. It's sorta like on [[Facebook]] when people would message him after he'd request to be their friend with "Do I know you?" and Chris would say something like "I don't know, I can't read your mind." Autistics tend to have very literal thinking and will fail to see the subtlety of a question, in this case "Do I know you?" is the socially accepted way of saying "Typically, people requesting to be my friend are people I know, and I don't know you. Are we connected in any way?" The "pen is mightier than the sword but more permanent than the pencil" is more of a random access humor thing. In fact, the random access humor is partially based in childish verb puns. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:33, 2 December 2009 (CET)
**The literal answers to questions deal is technically known as a lack of linguistic pragmatism. His fairly flat, unnaturally patterned speaking voice is probably a case of aprosodic speech. I'm mentioning it here because I don't think it matters much to the article, so I'm hesitant to add it (especially as my first edit), but there are attempts at technical terminology here and there. [[User:MaybeNever|MaybeNever]] 03:26, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

==Chris and abstract thinking==
Do you think this could be a "Chris and..." article? There is plenty of evidence that he is NOT an abstract thinker (This would highlight his "Child-like" thinking; children tend be concrete, i.e. literal, in their thinking, Chris is no exception). There's enough evidence of his concrete thinking to make into a separate article. . --[[User:Scarletdragon|Scarletdragon]] 23:21, 2 December, 2009 (CET)
*This is something that could be discussed in the [[autism]] article (and it's already discussed there) since this is really an autism thing. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:44, 2 December 2009 (CET)

== Attempts to sound suave and educated ==

I can't really pin it down (I'm not great at literary analysis), but I've noticed that Chris often attempts to sound like, I dunno, a 19th century upper-middle class English writer. For example, in the email describing his detective work regarding the photo taken at the Game Place, he refers to playing a card game with "a young gentleman." I'm too lazy to search for more examples but perhaps you guys know what I mean. I you agree this is a trait, it should be mentioned either here or in the [[Writing]] article. [[User:Glorious Tentacularity|Glorious Tentacularity]] 06:51, 6 December 2009 (CET)

==Name change==

This article should probably be renamed Chris and Language. What do you think? --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 16:23, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

== Renaming ==

I love how [[Spanish]] starts out and how it works without it being "Chris and Spanish." Perhaps the same should be done with this? thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:45, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

== Sarcasm ==

I think we need a better example for Chris' inability to understand sarcasm. Yeah, he missed the fact that Dan Hibiki is a Joke Character, but you have to remember that Chris is woefully behind the times. Dan wasn't in Street Fighter II, which is probably the last Street Fighter game Chris has even heard of. And that's if Chris has even played Street Fighter. Plus, as of Street Fighter IV, Dan is (supposedly) more of a Lethal Joke Character. A better example would be his interview with Screwattack Europe, where it's pretty obvious that the interviewer is mocking him. --[[User:Edrobot|Edrobot]] 03:14, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

==Some technicalities==

Sorry for being pedantic, but there are a billion links back to the CWCki's page on [[Autism]], but (to me, at least), some of the 'This is a characteristic of Autism' (to paraphrase) statements that are tacked onto the ends of some paragraphs seem like they were added shoddily out of necessity, and thus that the "characteristics" were thought up on the spot. I was tempted to add "citation needed" to one that particularly stood out, but resisted the urge. Also, I don't really know how to word it better, but there are two separate sections that deal with the link between concrete thought and Autism directly, could that not be revised, and perhaps somehow merged/better linked with the Sarcasm section? (Oh, I also *ahem* corrected some of the grammar, to explain my edit on the page...) [[User:Sussuro|Sussuro]] 15:17, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I have to agree with too many links to autism. it's like some internet meme after everything Chris does that's stupid it's LOL PUT AUTISM LINK HERE. [[User:SenorTucan|SenorTucan]] 16:48, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

== Repetitive language ==

We all know that Chris uses the exact same fucking terms over and over again, be they CWC-neologisms ("[[Boyfriend-Free Girl]]", "[[Sweetheart from the Ground-Up]]", "[[TRUE and HONEST]]"... you know the rest) or even actual proper terms ("Slanderous mockeries", "mislabeling", "I do not care for", even "crestfallen"), albeit with some slightly modified definitions. I actually found his repetitive use of the word "crestfallen" particularly interesting, since this is not only surprisingly advanced vocabulary, but Chris hasn't exactly used that many variations of the term. This paradoxically indicates both an advanced AND limited vocabulary. Perhaps this is just Chris trying to sound all-grown-up and [[fail]]ing.

Is this notable, or is this just something for the [[Autism]] bin by virtue of the fact that this is just repetitive autistic behavior? --[[User:SeventhBase|SeventhBase]] 03:30, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

:I've had this idea bumping around on my userpage for a long long time. I finally decided to codify it and add it to the page. If this is a crap edit, please revert, but I felt it was worth slipping in.[[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 01:26, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Chris and English

2010-07-23T01:25:33Z

Sygerrik:

[[Image:Writing_guide.PNG|thumb|right|Chris has no idea what this is.]]
[[Chris]]'s '''English skills''', like most other things related to Chris, leave much to be desired. Much of this can be attributed to his [[autism]], which often results in awkward speech patterns.<ref>http://www.teacch.com/info_primer.html</ref> He spent years of his childhood mute, and took speech therapy classes at [[James Madison University]]. Strangely, his grasp of English actually appears to have grown weaker as he became older. This might be due to the fact that he spends more and more time in isolation.

==CWC-isms==
Chris has a tendency to make up his own words for things, then use them with reckless abandon while assuming whoever is reading will be able to understand [[autism|exactly what he means]]. As such, we get terms like "B-dog" and "[[noviophobia]]." He also tends to appropriate existing words, giving them new meanings based entirely on his own skewed logic. This is why, in Chris-speak, [[navy]] isn't a sea-based military force and [[China]] isn't an [[Punchy|Asian]] nation.

In the case of words like "da," Chris might be trying to make a pass at using slang to sound casual and relaxed, but instead, he ends up sounding like a marketing executive grasping desperately for credibility. Other famous [[CWC-isms]] like "[[tobacky]]," "[[niggos]]" and "[[gaybian]]" are the result of a different problem altogether: Chris is a manchild who can't even say out loud the names of objects or concepts which he finds repulsive. The use of these terms is a prime example of his immaturity.

These CWC-isms combine with his [[Speech Impediment|existing speech problems]] and his accent to form what you might call [[Wikipedia:Logorrhea|logorrhea]], literally "word flux." Basically, it's verbal diarrhea: a constant stream of almost-words reaching desperately for meaning, only to [[fail]] hard.

{{quote|if I could have it my way, I'd make it illegal and forbidden to have homo Men; women are safe. Also, I would have the secondary definition of the word "gay", being Homosexual, REMOVED from the word in the dictionaries, and all instinctions [sic] and sayings of the word will ONLY LEGALLY be used to mean HAPPY, as it was originally intended among songs like "Deck the Halls"|Chris, 02 January 2009, 11:59}}

As you can see in the above quote, this abuse of language isn't limited to just the commonplace CWC-isms we've come to know and tolerate. "Instinctions" is a word Chris made up for this passage to sound [[Autism|fancy and smart]]. Playing fast and loose with language just further decreases the impact of whatever Chris is trying to say. Also of note is that Chris wants to make it illegal to use a word a certain way, which is [[Chris and hypocrisy|hypocritical]], and — quite frankly — [[Creepy stare|creepy]].

His own lexicon, like many other aspects of his personality, demonstrates exactly how self-centered he is. While the whole purpose of language is to express thoughts and ideas to other people, he has managed to turn vocabulary into a brick wall, by crafting a mashed-together lexicon that makes sense only to him.

==Written language==
Chris's writing is a complete mess from top to bottom, and that is putting it mildly.

For starters, he doesn't understand basic syntax and semantics: he uses words in the wrong context, or as incorrect parts of speech, and his grammar is abhorrent. For example, he refers to [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|finger-banging]] as "outtercourse,"<ref>[[Megan Emails, 2008#Chris thinks she was scarred because she doesn't know much about sex]]</ref> which incorrectly replaces the supposed prefix ''in-'' — which leaves ''tercourse'', which is not a word at all — while the correct prefix is ''inter-'', meaning "between." Similarly, [[Mailbag 52|the infamous stock reply used to address Mailbag entries]] includes "inputed" as the past participle of ''input''; the correct word is either ''input'' or ''inputted''.<ref>[[wiktionary:input]]</ref>

In addition, he is obviously afraid that whatever he's feeling won't be adequately conveyed through his words, and tries to make up for this by relying on repetition and a distinctive [[BILLY MAYS|ALL CAPS]] style. For similar reasons, he tends to Capitalize Words At Random, Especially nouns and those which hold Importance to the Sentence, or the ones that address Important Abstract Concepts that Chris tries to Systematically Understand on account of finding them too Complex and Mystifying.

{{quote|And the ONLY REASON I have not had sex yet in my lifetime WITH A WOMAN yet, is because the WHOLE TIME, I have been SHY; kept down with the Personal Fear of nearly EVERY Woman I see being Already Paired-Up with a Boyfriend.|Chris proving that he never proofreads. From the CWCipedia article on [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Homosexuality homosexuality].}}

Beyond these basic issues of grammar and capitalization, Chris's writings often lack focus. Much like any 6-year-old with ADD, he has trouble concentrating on a single topic for extended periods of time, and he instead veers off topic in order to babble about [[Random Access Humor|whatever is on his mind]]. This practice of writing stream-of-consciousness style, combined with his obvious disinterest in proofreading or otherwise checking over what he's written, inevitably results in a large number of confusing run-on sentences. A single sentence might cover multiple topics, often ones that don't have anything to do with the original subject matter. It gives his writing a rambling, disjointed feeling, and makes it very difficult to understand exactly what his point is.

{{quote|...while the Movie Women are "Just Characters", Rosechu is playing as her own "Character" as well. Also, there is MORE THAN ONE Rosechu; Why do you think I've dubbed them respectively "Bubbles Rosechu", "Angelica Rosechu", and recently introduced, "Lolisa Rosechu", of whom her Boyfriend, "Jamsta Sonichu", was the one who Interviewed Blanca and her Jiggliami on Radio Station, KCWC.|Chris, somehow jumping from [[White knight e-mails#September 2008 — Chris denies being fat and sexist|movies not being reality]] to his [[KCWC|imaginary radio station]].}}

It doesn't help that Chris feels it's his obligation to be "[[Honest Content|honest]]," which means that he feels the need to mention irrelevant little details, as anything less would not mean he's not telling the whole truth.

===Spelling===
[[Image:Schu7_Pg1_MeganEdit.JPG|thumb|right|Chris had a chance to correct this spelling mistake during a [[retcon]] of [[Sonichu 7]], but instead proved he can't spell for shit.]]

One will notice with all the "sic"s scattered around the CWCki that Chris has trouble with simple spelling. With all the other problems with Chris's writing, his poor spelling somehow manages to stand out. He regularly misspells words that should be easy to spell, such as "mies" ([[Sonichu 0|miles]]) and "dood" ([[Sonichu 7|good]]). He seems to have trouble with switching "eni"s for "ein"s, as in "[[seinor prom|seinor]]" (senior) and "geinus" ([[Sonichu 1|genius]]). Sometimes, he seems to "sound out" words like a grade-school child learning how to read, such as "characiture" (caricature), rather than taking a few seconds to spell-check them in Word, Firefox, Google, or any of the dozens of other programs that would automatically correct his spelling. To put the icing on the cake, he writes "cold-hearted" as "[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|ColdHearted]]," as if it were a compound word, and "rest assured" as "[[Twitter#17_July_2010|rest-assured]]" as if it were a hyphenated phrase and not an imperative statement.

It was only relatively recently discovered that the term [[Anchuent Prophecy|Anchuent]] is supposed to be a pun, and not just another of Chris's random acts of butchery against the English language, or even a mistake due to the fact that "u" is right next to "i" on the QWERTY keyboard. This largely goes to show that Chris's inability to spell correctly is so persistent that when he ''deliberately'' misspells something, it goes completely unnoticed for ''years''.

===Repetition===
Chris frequently repeats himself verbatim. This is most apparent in his [[Attraction Sign]] but has cropped up in numerous other places. He frequently describes his ideal girl as a "boyfriend-free girl to make into a Sweetheart from the Ground-up." This rather clunky phrasing is repeated in almost every iteration of the sign, both online and off. He asserts that his idea of "[[Dating Education|Date ed]] sounds [[Sonichu 9|dated]]" on several occasions, and has repeatedly blamed the [[Infinitely-high Boyfriend-Factor]] for his woes. This repetition is not limited to his written communications; for example, he has often described his [[Bob Chandler|father]] as "starting more arguments than flies in a garbage dump," most recently in his [[Father call|phone conversation with Kacey's father]].

Clearly, something about these exact phrase causes Chris to reuse them over and over, verbatim, when describing the same problem in different conversations and contexts. Why does he repeat himself so much? It's tempting to just blame his [[autism]], and that is likely a factor. Much like his life in general, however, not all of his failures at communication can be laid at the door of his autism. Other possibilities include:
-Chris struggles to form sentences, and when he does so successfully, he tends to reuse what he knows is a working formula.
-Chris thinks his peculiar constructions are [[Random-access humor|funny]] and uses them to get a laugh, much like his [[Christian's sex joke|one joke]].
-Chris is so lazy that he literally copy/pastes text (or simply copies in the case of non-digital media) from his earlier screeds and manifestos into his new ones
-Chris is simply so [[Things Chris has ripped off|terminally unimaginative]] that he cannot think of more than one way to express a given idea.
Given what we know about Chris, any or all of the above are possibilities. A large number of the phrases we collectively know as "[CWC-isms]" follow the above pattern.

==Semantics==
As demonstrated in CWC-isms above, Chris has severe problems understanding the meanings of words (he described the word "benevolent" as sounding "derogatory"<ref>[[Mailbag 5]]</ref>), and just about anything even marginally abstract or metaphorical. He might have mixed "benevolent" up with "belligerent", which means "war-like".

===Muddled-up proverbs===
A good demonstration of Chris's lack of understanding of semantics is the fact that he doesn't really understand proverbs and adages; he frequently recites them incorrectly, clearly misses the point, or [[Autism|takes them literally]]. When he comes up with his own, he doesn't exactly try to veil any wisdom in carefully crafted phrases.

Examples of Chrisverbial Wisdom:

* "Those who are unable to, teach."<ref>[[Mumble 4]]</ref>
* "shaped OBJECT is the BODY of the Item, but the STICKER is the Item's SOUL."<ref>[[Download For Play Only]]</ref>
* "A sound thought is a good thought, unless it is a bad idea."<ref>[[CWCipedia]]</ref>
* "The pen is mightier than the sword, yet it is more permanent than a pencil."<ref>[[CWCipedia]]</ref>

The last example illustrates several problems: "The pen is mightier than the sword" (a phrase originally coined by Edward Bulwer-Lytton, the man who also coined the phrase "It was a dark and stormy night") is, of course, generally regarded as a statement that words can have bigger consequences than violence. Chris doesn't understand this, and tries to somehow interpret this concretely: "pen is more permanent than a pencil." It is also problematic because normally, "A, yet B" is usually a statement by ''contrasts'': "A may be true, but a contrary example B is true as well." Still, Chris fails at explaining why it's so important that pens are more permanent than pencils, and what that has to do with pens and their relative might vis-a-vis swords — the meaning of Chris's proverb remains unclear. He cannot even create simple proverbs like
* "One who has his dick in the peanut butter jar, is fucking nuts."

===Rhetorical comparisons and sarcasm===
Chris takes rhetorical comparisons very literally; he gets extremely attached to the ''exact'' meanings of the these statements, and not the bigger point that the other speaker is trying to make. This is typical in concrete thought, which is a symptom of autism. Examples:<ref>[[Father Call]]</ref>

: '''Kacey's father:''' You know, I think the last book Kacey read was last week. And she reads books like you probably stuff candy down your throat.
: '''Chris:''' Stuff…candy…don't…I stuff vegetables down my throat! I stuff green beans! I stuff broccoli! I stuff corn! I stuff carrots!
: …
: '''Kacey's father:''' I don't know shit about computers and I can do that. I barely even know what a Windows is.
: '''Chris:''' You barely know what a Windows is?
: '''Kacey's father:''' Don't… don't patronize me.
: '''Chris:''' I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to understand what you just said, you say you don't understand Windows?
: '''Kacey's father:''' What I'm trying to say is, I don't know shit about computers and I could figure out how to do that.

In the first example, Chris clearly only hears "You[…] stuff candy down your throat" and interprets the negative tone as an accusation that this is a bad thing, then tries to prove that he does not, in fact, stuff ''candy'' down his throat — just good stuff like vegetables. Because he's threatened, he forgets that this is used as a ''rhetorical comparison'', and thus the original point that the Dad here was trying to make gets lost in sands of time. This is also one of the reasons why conversations with Chris sometimes branch out, lead nowhere, and cause frustration and tears (and tears of mirth for everyone but the two people who are conversing at the time).

As the quote read in [[04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless|Autism Awareness]] video says, autistic people are frequently unable to interpret sarcasm; this kind of literal interpretation of everything people say is a trait common in many autistic people. Chris has often been unable to pick up sarcastic comments. Example:<ref>[[Mumble 6]]</ref>

: '''Julie:''' Chris, who's your favorite person to use in Street Fighter, who do you use the most?
: '''Chris:''' Chun-Li.
: '''Julie:''' I also use Dan.

[[wikipedia:Dan Hibiki|Dan Hibiki]] is, of course, a joke character.

===Literal interpretation===
Chris has the tendency to take questions and suggestions very literally. This is called "concrete thinking". Example:<ref>[[Mailbag 2#In-depth answers|Mailbag 2]]</ref>

: '''Q:''' Do you listen to any music while you draw the comics?
: '''A:''' Yes.

To a normal person, the question that was posed would be interpreted along the lines of "What kind of music — what bands, what musical genres — do you listen while you draw the comics, assuming you listen music at all while drawing the comics? If you listen to the music, why does this particular music help you draw things? If not, do you find music distracting, and why?" but instead, Chris interpreted "Do you listen to any music?" literally as a question that can be answered "yes" or "no." Simply put, he is unable to see ''why'' people are asking specific questions that can be answered yes or no, and unable to elaborate or give rationales for his opinions unless those things are ''specifically'' asked from him. Again, this characteristic is due to his autism, not, as is often perceived, his stupidity.

Another example:<ref>[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 8]]</ref>
: '''Alec:''' Please stop running away from me.
: '''Chris:''' I'm not running away from you, I'm right here.

This was in response to Chris trying to end the call after an inconvenient discussion.

This also is likely to blame for Chris's second encounter with B-Manajerk. The previous day, the manager of the Wal-Mart had banned him from the store. Problem is, they were inside a McDonald's at the time, and he likely said something along the lines of "Never come to this store again". Chris took this to mean "You are banned from this specific store, the one you and I are standing in right now" and due to this misunderstanding he wound up being chased out of the Wal-Mart.

===Television jargon===
In the ''Sonichu'' comic, Chris also almost consistently uses television terminology instead of comics terminology, and television terminology seems to seep into his other language use. He urges people to "stay tuned" to see new developments in his [[YouTube]] channel; this may seem innocuous at first, as regular people might use "stay tuned" in non-TV situations, but in Chris's case, this may be an indication of a bigger issue. Chris refers to himself as "Great Director Chandler"<ref>[[Mailbag 34#...Well, this is disturbing!|Mailbag 34, to Evan]]</ref> and calls alternate versions of his comics "director's cuts."<ref>[[Quizzes#Sonichu Quiz 2|Sonichu Quiz 2]]</ref> [[Sonichu 10]] begins with "Previously..." type of recap of the end of the previous comic. In the comic, he consistently refers to "episodes" rather than chapters. He has used "TV-MA/TV-14/TV-Y7" ratings for certain scenes<ref>[[Sonichu 8]]</ref> and, when this self-imposed rating system later failed to work, he blamed FCC for the messed-up ratings,<ref>[[Mailbag 51#The recent explosion of pornography in TV-Y7 cartoons is not Chris's fault|Mailbag 51]]</ref> even though FCC has no authority over web or print media. He promised a second "season" of the comic — apparently a "reboot" will commence with a "clip show episode" in [[Sonichu 11]].<ref>[[Mailbag 51#A reboot is scheduled|Mailbag 51]]</ref> It is as if he's familiar with only one set of jargon that he then applies to all similar situations, ignoring the fact that most people speak of "comic writers" instead of "directors", "chapters" instead of "episodes", "volumes" instead of "seasons", rate their comics with some rating system that is probably similar to, but not an ''exact duplicate'' of the one used in television — and so on.

===Other strange points===
Chris seems to cling to trademarks. In [[Mailbag 10]], for example, he specifically says a couple of times that he has saved material on his Memory Stick and Memory Stick Duo. Not "saved on memory card" or just "saved"; people generally don't care ''what'' you save your fanart on, as long as it's saved. Chris, however, wants to be specific: the fan material was saved on a Memory Stick Duo. This can be explained, again, by Chris's [[Autism]], where he is literally describing the specific device that he is using to save, not a generalization.

Chris seems to prefer referring to people using their full names; he almost always refers to himself as "Christian Weston Chandler" or, God forbid, "'Christopher' Christian 'Ricardo' Weston Chandler"— if he's feeling overly formal. This applies to other people, too; for example, in [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts]], he refers to most of the women by their full names. This is yet another autism-related trait.

==Spoken language==
[[Image:Choicevideos.PNG|thumb|300px|Chris's spoken vocabulary.]]
Chris comes off slightly better when speaking, but that's really not saying much. When he addresses the world in one of his many videos, his speech is peppered with vocalized pauses such as "uhh," "hmmm," and "yeah" as he struggles to find the right thing to say. He also tends to stutter and repeat himself.

{{quote|They should have given it perfect- they should have given it five out of five stars... and ten out of ten. Between G4... tee, uh, between G4 and, uh, the Game Informer.|Chris attempting to recommend [[Brutal Legend Plus|Brutal Legend]].}}

Chris does a better job staying on-topic when speaking than he does while writing, likely because when speaking to a camera or another person, he has a clearer idea of the point he wants to get across. Going off on rambling tangents still occasionally happens, but usually only when Chris is trying to be funny.

{{quote|...even to make his own ass bleed. I mean, that story, it's just about as incredibly fabricated as Donna Tubb's time over at when she had to borrow R. Kelly's bathroom... The Cleveland Show, new episodes Sun- every Sunday on FOX.|Chris [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 15th, 2009|confusing humor with advertising]]}}

While Chris seems to be at least capable of coherent conversation while calm, things go downhill when he's [[Stress|upset]], [[Chris and Anger|enraged]], or [[Autism|confused]]. In particular, his tendency to throw childlike temper tantrums has resulted in some very bizarre outbursts. When angry, Chris still retains his tendency to go off on tangents and be very proper about compulsively giving all of the [[Honest Content|relevant information]], which means that he's often unable to sum his anger up in just a few succinct words.

{{quote|...SO GET IT THROUGH YOUR DAMN FUCKING SKULL AND CALL ME A REAL NAME THAT have God has been given to me and the bear at Regency Square Shopping center, during 1989, YOU DAMN MOCKING BASTARD!|Chris [[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!|inserting random details into a hissy fit]].}}

Interestingly, comparisons of his vocal patterns offer one of the few signs of actual development that Chris has ever displayed. Consider his earliest videos; his speech was courtly and disjointed, and delivered almost exclusively in short, monotonous bursts:

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There are exceptions to this, but these generally consisted of short phrases apparently culled from TV (note the change in pitch in the above video when Chris describes himself as "ever so lonesome"). All in all, Chris displayed all the attributes one would expect from an autistic, as well as from someone who is completely unused to talking to people.

Comparisons with the present day show a marked change in Chris's manner of speech:

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Chris may not sound any more naturalistic, but he does show more of a semantic range than he did two years ago. Clues as to why this has occurred can be found in the subject matter of the videos — Chris perhaps now has realized to some extent that he must engage with people on their terms in order to be taken seriously. While this may not be a massive change, it is still heartening to see that the trolling is stirring the emaciated hulk of his dignity into some sort of creaking action. Who knows? In another two years he may have acquired the vocal skills of a child of kindergarten age.

===Idiosyncrasies===
Chris also has a number of idiosyncrasies which appear frequently in his speech. First, the aforementioned disjointed speech patterns, which are broken up by a number of ideological phrases, which crop up with varying regularity but which sound very similar every time he uses them. Listen closely to the way he introduces himself; he is "Chrishinwessonchanler. From Ruckersville Vir-''gin''-ya." Whenever Chris introduces himself, he basically repeats this exact phonetic pattern, including pauses, the rushed and garbled name, and the staccato rhythm of "Virginia". This is of course explainable by his [[autism]], but it is also related to his [[Random Access Humor|sense of humor]], his [[parody|plagiarism]], and his desire for control over those whom he sees as oppressors.

It may also be related to the less often seen idiosyncrasy which causes him to express disgust with a word physically. For example, in the famous [[SingStar Challenge Round 5|Smell Yo Duck]] music video, Chris first avoided saying the word "dick" altogether, and when forced to repeat the video, showed signs of distress bordering on illness. While this is obviously an exaggeration of Chris's feelings, it is notable that he should feel any particular sensation about simple words whatsoever. This reaction raises the possibility that, so long as he is not faking it altogether, Chris may be a [[Wikipedia:Synesthesia|synaesthete]]. There's also the possibility that he has a strong association with a certain word and associates guilt with it, like a child hearing a curse word.

==Chris and profanity==
At some point in the 2000s, Chris became an enthusiastic user of profanity and vulgar language. According to [[Mimms]], in his early days at [[The GAMe PLACe]] Chris avoided cursing, at least in public, but in more recent years he's lost almost all compunctions in this regard. His videos, blogs, and public pronouncements are full of foul language and obscene references. This is possibly to seem more "adult".

He still holds back in some ways, though. In much of his writing, especially in his comics and on the [[CWCipedia]], Chris shows a strange inclination to censor himself. He regularly uses profanity in his blog entries and Mailbag responses, but the offending words are typically blotted out with asterisks: "D*** that Son Of A B****, Clyde Cash",<ref>[[CWC Blog]], December 2009</ref> for instance, or "BUGS BUNNY WAS NAKED; YOGI BEAR WAS NAKED; WHAT THE F*** IS WRONG WITH YOU?"<ref>[[Mailbag 39]]</ref>

It could be that Chris believes that most of the CWCipedia's audience is comparatively young, and therefore censors his outbursts to protect his imagined fanbase. Another, more complex theory proposes that it's a sign of Chris's stunted maturity level — he wants to use profanity to signify that he's an adult, but he retains a child's guilt and uncertainty about swearing. (The same theory is often floated regarding [http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Daveykins David Gonterman], another angry internet cartoonist with an incongruous tendency to censor himself.)

==See also==
*[[Speech Impediment]]
*[[Chris's resume]]
*[[The High School Story]]
*[[Chris and writing]]
*[[Spanish]]
*Anything written on [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Main_Page CWCipedia]

==Sauces==
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{{Chris and}}

[[Category:Chris-chan]]

Talk:Jackie E-mails

2010-04-23T14:59:41Z

Sygerrik:

==1000 GET==
Give or take, this should be the 1,000th CWCki article. Congratulations guys, it's you who have made the CWCki so damn great.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:27, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:* Yay us! Also, relevant to the article, it seems like we kinda came in half way to the conversation. Was this a hook profile ad? If so, wow. Someone got through to him when many others didn't. If I can ask the author, what email of his did you mail, and where did you email from? -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 04:36, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::*she already left a message through the community portal. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 04:41, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:::* Cool, thanks Clyde. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 04:47, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:* Here's to 1,000 more! So is Jackie article worthy yet? Her community portal message (again) speaks volumes about how women view Chris, though I assume since this information isn't cwcanon, we'll have to wait until he makes I Need You Damian Antaria the Sequel.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 05:57, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:::*A short page on Jackie might not be a bad idea. I mean, we have a page for [[Caitlin]]. Mostly document her Community portal post, stuff like that. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:27, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

So. He reveals the sign, the Pokemon, and the trolls all in one e-mail. Damn.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:18, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

== To do ==

*<s>Wikify</s>
<s>*Make them into level 2 headings (for easier citation of individual e-mails)</s> [''Done.''] -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 08:31, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
*<s>Categorize</s>
*Incorporate material into other articles
--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:28, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

== E-mail address? ==

Do we know which e-mail address these went to? Chris doesn't seem to reply at all from his AOL one. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 14:38, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
*He doesn't reply to ''you'' if you send him an e-mail to his AOL account. If you have a wet [[china]], however...--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:58, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
*I figured as much, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing it wrong. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 18:50, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

==Dear god.==
He just rambles on and on. I love how he brings up MLW, and the names of his pokemon without any sort of provoking. It's like he can't stop himself. --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 16:26, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:He's starving for attention. I guess the YASG is not paying enough in that sector. Promises of China also helps... [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 23:29, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

==Random note==

I guess a funny thing is that this person has the same first name as I do. [[User:Chaosakita|ChaosAkita]] 21:12, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

==White Knight==

Is it really accurate to describe her as such in this article? She strikes me as an excellent and very subtle troll who pushes Chris's buttons at an early stage while making it seem incidental. - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 00:03, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
: That's the vibe I'm getting, too... (I mean, come on, mistaking Asperchu for Chris's creations, when it has Alec's names all over the place? A coldly calculated berserk button press if there ever was one...) but either way, until we know for ''sure,'' it's hard to pass a definite judgment either way. Speculation isn't good until it's ''conclusive'' speculation. In my opinion, let's mention all unsubstantiated but logical theories we can think of, or mention none. =) --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 00:38, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
::I say we just treat her like an innocent woman who had no idea what she was getting into, without labeling her has a troll or a white knight. It's the way she presented herself to us, and it's funnier.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 01:32, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
::*Despite my Original Reaction and at the time most sound thoughts I am inclined to say that She Is A Dirty Dang Troll! HOWEVER, I do agree with Beat in that we should Keep Her that way. When in Doubt, which I Do Have due to my friggen Mental Block, just AGREE With Beat, it is Safer. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 01:47, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:There's lots of evidence that she's a troll; note how she showed up just when we found out about Hook Cafe, she pushes his buttons CONSTANTLY, sometimes in really subtle ways ("people use stress as an excuse to not get anything done"), she pushes him hard to get more work done on comics and videos, she leaked the emails, etc. HOWEVER, Chris reads Cwcki, and we shouldn't post anything about her being a troll until we're sure it's all over. Should we? [[User:Sygerrik|Sygerrik]] 14:59, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Fapcup

2010-01-11T05:07:11Z

Sygerrik:

[[Image:Fapcup.jpg|thumb|Wild FAPCUP appeared!]]
[[Image:Fapcup_original.jpg|thumb|The original Fapcup in action.]]
[[Image:fapcupwhy.jpg|thumb|[[Chris Sex Videos|Chris using the Fapcup.]]]]

{{quote|So yeah anyway, well, pump it down with one or both of my hands at the moment until I feel, until I feel the sensation... where I feel I'm about to lose it, and then it all, it all just the stuff, yeah, yeah, some of my semen comes out. I don't - I don't like to make a mess, so I-... so I-- when I come I have a '''clean plastic cup''' [emphasis added] by my side and I just make sure to put all of my semen in the cup there.|Chris on the fapcup<ref>http://encyclopediadramatica.com/User:OrangeMarmalade#I_am_perverted</ref>}}

'''Fapcup''' is [[troll]] slang for the cup Chris uses to drink his own [[semen]].

At level 16, Fapcup can evolve into MankMug, which in turn evolves into Tugjug at level 20. Once its happiness is over 220, it evolves into the powerful Wanktank. When traded with a can of Fanta, it can in due time become the juggernaut, Cumdrum.

As of [[Mailbag 30]] Chris claims he no longer drinks his own semen.<ref>[[Mailbag 30]]</ref> Why he abandoned a high-protein diet is unknown.

==See also==
*[[Mass debating]]
*[[Semen]]

==Sauce==
<references/>

[[Category:Chris-chan]]

Fapcup

2010-01-11T05:06:53Z

Sygerrik:

[[Image:Fapcup.jpg|thumb|Wild FAPCUP appeared!]]
[[Image:Fapcup_original.jpg|thumb|The original Fapcup in action.]]
[[Image:fapcupwhy.jpg|thumb|[[Chris Sex Videos|Chris using the Fapcup.]]]]

{{quote|So yeah anyway, well, pump it down with one or both of my hands at the moment until I feel, until I feel the sensation... where I feel I'm about to lose it, and then it all, it all just the stuff, yeah, yeah, some of my semen comes out. I don't - I don't like to make a mess, so I-... so I-- when I come I have a '''clean plastic cup''' [emphasis added] by my side and I just make sure to put all of my semen in the cup there.|Chris on the fapcup<ref>http://encyclopediadramatica.com/User:OrangeMarmalade#I_am_perverted</ref>}}

'''Fapcup''' is [[troll]] slang for the cup Chris uses to drink his own [[semen]].

At level 16, Fapcup can evolve into MankMug, which in turn evolves into Tugjug at level 20. Once its happiness is over 220, it evolves into the powerful Wanktank. When traded with a can of Fanta, it can in due time become the juggernaut, Cumdrum.

As of [[Mailbag 30]] Chris claims he no longer drinks his own semen.<ref>[[Mailbag 30]]</ref> Why is unknown.

==See also==
*[[Mass debating]]
*[[Semen]]

==Sauce==
<references/>

[[Category:Chris-chan]]

User:Sygerrik

2010-01-11T04:09:10Z

Sygerrik:

Been watching the saga a while, figured it was time to get involved. I'm not normally part of the IHM but Chris is too damn funny to leave alone. I want to get in on PVCC, #sonichu, etc, but for now I'm ok reading Cwcipedia and trying to keep Cwcki current.

I'm thinking of adding a section on Chris's bizarre use of repetitive phraseology, but whether that deserves its own article, or should be merged into another article (such as Chris and English), or whether it should simply be mentioned individually in each appearance, I don't know. All I have so far are scattered notes.

==Chris and Repetition==
Chris is extremely fond of repeating himself. A number of his favorite phrases and concepts are reiterated over and over again nearly verbatim. Examples include "a Boyfriend-Free Girl to make into a Sweetheart From the Ground-up," and his assertion that the idea of "Date Ed" sounds "dated" and that "sex ed is fine for after the third date." There are a number of possible explanations for this.

-Chris has trouble forming ideas into sentences, and when he finds one that he thinks works well, he simply reuses it over and over

-Chris thinks that some of his CWC-isms are funny jokes and bear repetition

-Chris is so lazy he literally copy-pastes blocks of texts from earlier screeds and manifestos into later ones

-Chris is simply terminally unimaginative and cannot think of more than one way to express an idea.

Given what we know about Chris, any or all of the above are possible. A large number of the phrases collectively known as CWC-isms are repeated like the above.

{{IRCReg}}

==A Sonichu Fiction==
Be warned, this is incredibly graphic and horrible. Seriously. Don't read this if you harbor hope for the essential goodness of humanity. The explicit scenes are sadly very poorly written because I was just trying to get through them as fast as possible and didn't take the time to pick words carefully or structure paragraphs well. This is my imagining of what it would be like if a Pokemon trainer ever actually went to Cwcville to challenge its Pokemon Gym.

I've spent my entire life wanting to be something else. When I was a child, I couldn't wait to grow up. When I got my first Pokemon, I wanted to show the world what I could do. Today, I would give up everything I've worked for-- everything I've accomplished-- for just a bus ticket out of here.
My name is Kenen, and I'm a Pokemon master.
Well, let me qualify that. I'm almost a Pokemon master. I have seven badges, I've trained my team to the peak of perfection, I've crossed the world more times than I can count. I've even taken down the leader of Team Arctic and saved the world from his nefarious plans. So why am I here, in a filthy Soup Hotel room, drinking Long Island Iced Teas and working up the courage to jump out a window?
That's the trick, isn't it? It's so easy to say "it was inevitable," to assume that my current predicament is the fault of fate or random chance. It's easy to blame it on someone else. But didn't I come here? Didn't I listen to the advice, and choose to compete for the Autism Badge? Didn't I look at that one empty spot in my badge case, and set myself against this task? I did. I did. And while it would be nice to say that I had no idea what I was getting into, I did it fully forewarned about what I would find here. I thought I was prepared. I guess you live and learn.
You learn, anyways.

I arrived in Cwcville, unheralded, on a bus that smelled like a longshoreman's armpit. It's pretty isolated from the rest of Kanto, and I started to realize why the second I stepped off the bus. Normally, the first thing I do when I enter a new town is scope out the Pokemon Center. It's good to know where to go if one of my friends faints, or if I want to access a PC. It's such a reflex that the second I see a red roof, it grabs my attention. That's why the Cwcville skyline seemed so... wrong. I kept looking for something that simply wasn't there, and its absence was like a loose tooth. I kept willing it to be different, unable to let it go, like I was probing an abscess.

I should have left then. That was the first sign.

The town was... strange, to say the least. It was filthier than a Grimer's litter box, for one thing. Discarded food wrappers, bits of paper, cardboard boxes-- it looked like we had arrived just after a party. As it turns out, I was almost right. It was not a comfort.

The town was built around an imposing building that was labeled simply "CWCVILLE MALL." Well, a mall means stores, and stores mean Potions, Revives, Full Heals, Pokeballs, and all of the other tools of my trade. I picked my way across the rubble-strewn green, avoiding any trash I couldn't identify. I'm not sure if Antidotes work on human beings, and I don't mean to find out. I already wanted to get checked into a hotel somewhere, get my badge, and get out of here.

The mall was an imposing brutalist building, two stories high, with two large sweeping wings that put me in mind of a rather severe boarding school. Inside was not much better; it looked like the same cleanup crew who was tasked to take care of the park was in charge here. Most of the stores were shuttered, and those few that remained bore unusual logos: Goodwill, Gamestop, and McDonalds, instead of Poke Mart or Trainer Mart. A sign indicated that upstairs was the "Mayor's Office."
As I climbed the spiral staircase, the second strange thing about the town hit me-- I hadn't seen another living soul so far. Granted, it was late, but I would expect to run into an Officer Jenny in the park, or even a wild Pokemon or two. The town seemed abandoned.
The office occupied yet another storefront, the only occupied store I could see on this floor. Inside, it was a dim waiting room with dingy grey linoleum and a stack of ancient Nintendo Power magazines sitting on a coffee table. Behind a low counter sat a bored-looking woman with stringy blond hair. She looked up as I entered.
Her voice was a monotone, as if reading off a cue card. "Welcome to Cwcville, home of Sonichu. What brings you to our fabulous town?"

She had one of the most penetrating stares I'd ever seen. I've been stared down by cocky gym leaders, desperate Team Arctic Grunts and more than one unhinged Bug Catcher, but this was the first time I had been stared at by someone caught in their own private hell. I've never instructed a Pokemon to attack a human, but I came closest in that office, just as one would shoot a racehorse with a broken leg. She looked like she would welcome it.

Instead, I tried to stay focused on the task at hand. "Good evening, Ms... Amber. I'm here to challenge the Gym Leader. Could you point me in the direction of the Pokemon Center and a place to stay for the night?"

She shuddered, and reached over the counter, key in hand. That monotone again: "This will let you into one of our ten... magnificent Soup Hotels. The Pokemon Center is in the Gym. And... good luck." And was there something there? Something more than rote? I like to think so. I'll probably never know.

So what is a Soup Hotel? Well, if this one is a paragon of the type, they're stinking, rat-infested hovels where bums drag their worthless carcasses after a day of panhandling and smoking crack. Half of the doors are missing, the windows are broken up, and the stench of urine is appalling. I let Metagross out, figuring his immunity to poison would make it easy for him to help clean up, and Milotic tried to pressure-wash a greenish-brown stain out of the walls, but it's an uphill battle.

While they worked to making the room livable, I figured I'd scope out the competition. I didn't even know what type the Cwcville gym was. I found it easily enough, and finding it unlocked, I pushed open the door. Inside, the gym was a fairly standard setup; it was a ring about 150 yards across, bounded by a running track. I didn't see any junior trainers, which wasn't unusual in and of itself. These towns out in the boonies often have just the gym leader, since not enough trainers pass through to warrant hiring on a full staff. Of course, that wasn't the only reason, as I would find out soon enough. My mind wasn't on any of those things, however, as I stopped dead in the door. The sight that greeted me drove any thoughts of Pokemon battling from my mind.

In the center of the floor writhed two figures. It took a moment for me to figure out what I was seeing. An obese man and a strange yellow Pokemon were wrapped in unnatural congress. Time seemed to stop and I perceived the horrifying scene with preternatural clarity. The man was short and pasty, with thick glasses and greasy, thinning hair atop an acne-riddled scalp. He wore a filth-encrusted striped shirt that clung to his frame like a wet dishrag. His rolls of fat bulged and wobbled obscenely as he spasmed back and forth like a man in the throes of electrocution. His pants were around his ankles, and his cock was stuffed deep into the Pokemon in front of him.

The Pokemon was tall and thin, with short yellow fur and a pointed nose. It was vaguely humanoid, and even wore clothes-- or at least shoes. Its eyes were closed and it groaned and squealed like a rusted chain as the man-- who I had to assume was its owner-- roughly sodomized it. He wore a medallion displaying a crude likeness of the Pokemon, which thumped against his jiggling breasts as he thrust in and out, in and out. The suffering Pokemon was bent almost double to accommodate the bent cock of its owner and his protruding stomach fat. As I watched, the man pulled out of his Pokemon partner with a wet slurping sound, and the Pokemon spun around, grabbing the twisted member and plunging it into its mouth. Its tongue lapped gently around the razor-burned scrotum, and I saw with horror that the fur around its mouth was matted and clumped with dried semen.

I could feel the bile rising in my throat, but I was rooted to the spot and unable to act. The Pokemon stood up and leaned forward, and some kind of pouch on its stomach slid open. A thin, almost prehensile tube swung out and began to inflate, and I realized with horror that it was the Pokemon's genitals. The fat man leaned forward with a sick grin of anticipation on his face and the Pokemon swiftly mounted him, swinging forward and plunging its turgid member in between its master's quivering butt-cheeks. It pulled nearly entirely out, exposing its feces-covered penis to the air, then stuck it all the way back in, eliciting a howl of ecstasy from the convulsing man. Particles of shit exploded outward from the junction between them as his ass-cheeks jiggled and jumped. Their bodies slapped together with a sound like a wet steak being thrown against a brick wall, and the Pokemon stiffened as orgasm overtook it. Thick, ropey jets of gluey grey shot out of the tip of its penis, which the fat man eagerly lapped up and licked from his fingers. I could hold my revulsion no longer, and felt my knees give out as my lunch splashed all over the concrete floor. The sound attracted the notice of both lovers, and I scrambled backwards madly, nearly braining myself on the doorframe in my haste to escape.

END OF PART 1

User:Sygerrik

2010-01-11T04:08:45Z

Sygerrik:

Beel

2010-01-07T01:34:11Z

Sygerrik:

[[Image:Beel1.jpg|thumb|right|"Uh, Heil Hitler?"]]

The lobby receptionist for the [[4-cent_garbage.com]] Building, '''Beel''' is a red humanoid with devil horns and wings. Whether or not he is supposed to be the Devil (i.e. Satan), some minor demon, or simply a man who looks like a devil is uncertain. The name Beel is probably a wordplay on that of Beelzebub, the highest ranking of the 72 demons in Hell. <ref>[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lesser_Key_of_Solomon The Lesser Key of Solomon calls Beel (Ba'el, Beelzebub, Ba'al] the highest ranking of the 72 demons in Hell], the same number of floors of 4-cent garbage. Of course, it's very doubtful that Chris has even heard of The Lesser Key of Solomon. Other theorists claim that Beel was named after [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Beel Louis Beel], who was Prime Minister of the Netherlands after the war, and High Commissioner of the Crown in the Dutch East Indies. Although Beel was a Catholic, his extreme violence during the Dutch-Indonesian wars could associate him with evil.</ref>

Beel is depicted as a large, muscular red demon wearing nothing but cut-off jean shorts, suggesting that his appearance was inspired by that of Satan in ''[[South Park]]''.

===Appearances in Sonichu===

Beel's first appearance was as an unnamed receptionist in [[Sonichu 8]]. When [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]] arrive at the 4-cent_garbage Building for their appointment with [[Jason Kendrick Howell]], he directs them to the top floor, which he idiosynchratically describes as "66+6". When Sonichu clarifies that this is simply the 72nd floor, Beel becomes annoyed and shoos the [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] on their way. Sonichu takes umbrage with Beel's unprofessional conduct, until Rosechu reminds him of the [[story of Joseph]].

Beel would return in [[Sonichu 10]], this time serving in a more active role as Jason's agent. When [[Chris-Chan Sonichu]] arrives at the 4-cent_garbage Building to destroy it, Jason traps him in a cage, and Beel attempts to steal the [[Medallion]] from him, thinking it to be the source of his powers. However, to the surprise of everyone, Chris discovers his powers in fact stem from his [[High School Ring]], which he uses to retrieve his Medallion and defeat the demonic henchman.

Beel returns 10 pages later to warn Jason that the building was collapsing. When Jason escapes and retires, Beel condemns two others, [[Clyde Cash]] and [[Jack Thaddeus]] for being [[homo]] [[trolls]] and that, while he's condemned to hell for eternity, he doesn't mind it and knows he'll come back later, he just doesn't want to work for Count Graduon. He also reveals that he is trapped in Graduon's service as a troll for eternity as a punishment for being Hitler's assistant. As a satanic Nazi troll, he is not quite as evil, in Chris's eyes, as two homosexuals.

===Possible Gay Subtext===
Beel's appearance is unavoidably homoerotic, due to being based on the gay Satan character from South Park. Given Chris's repeated distaste for [[homos]], as well as male nudity in general, it is curious that he would be comfortable with this depiction. This may be Chris's ham-fisted attempt to literally demonize homosexuality, or the expression of his unconscious lust for big, half-naked, muscular men. Hell, just look at the guy:

[[Image: Beel2.jpg|thumb|400px|center|This naughty devil has a special package just for you.]]

Further, When Chris zaps him with a Hyper Beam attack, Beel utters the censored expletive "Oh, C***!", suggesting that Beel may wish to savor the delicious taste of cocks before his utter destruction. Other interpretations may be possible, but this seems to be the author's original intention.

==References==
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