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Wristwatch-SwissWatch for Jeremy "Thorg"

2011-08-21T16:48:09Z

ThatMan:

{{Recent}}

'''Wristwatch-SwissWatch for Jeremy "Thorg"''' is a video released by [[Chris]] on 20 [[August 2011]]. It is a bizarre ballad to wristwatches dedicated to Thorg. Chris shows off various wristwatches in his collection and flashes his [[PSP]], TV, and [[3DS]] with images of wristwatches on them. Despite being barely over a minute in length, Chris quickly gets [[Obesity|out of breath]] while singing. The [[Sailor Moon Poster of Fail|Sailor Moon poster]] is briefly focused on.
Oddly, though his [[Exposed - Jeremy Slonwhite of Vancouver, BC Canada|previous video]] blackmailing Thorg was removed, [[Autism|he felt the need]] to tag the video with "blackmail". 11 wristwatches are featured in this video.

This video marks the debut of his "custom" 3DS, which has been fitted onto some sort of band on his wrist, acting like the PIP-Boy from the Fallout franchise. As with any other device that Chris owns, the 3DS is covered in stickers, the only recognizable ones being Bumblebee from [[Transformers]], and the [[My Little Pony]] logo. This was basically a pointless video like many of his videos before, it was basically made due to his autism.

==Video==

{{Infobox/video
| name = Wristwatch-SwissWatch for Jeremy "Thorg"
| video = {{#ev:youtube:|yuaYqiOEB6c}}
| stardate = 20 [[August 2011]]
| subject = {{Music|text}}
| style = {{Crazy|text}}
| saga = {{Tomgirl|text}}
| shirt = Unknown
| previous = [[Kaka Makeup Basics]]
| next = Current
}}

==Transcript==
[''Chris spends the entire duration of this video showing various devices with pictures of wristwatches on them, most notably a 3DS and a PSP attached to his wrists]''

[''brandishes an unopened Super Mario World-themed wristwatch'']

Here's a little somethin' dedicated to [[Thorg|Master Thorg]].

Wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, I said wrist, wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, wristwatches! Wristwatches!

Wrist, wrist, I said the wristwatches! Wristwatches! ''[pause]'' Wristwatches!

Wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, I said the WRISTWATCHES! Wristwatchesss!

[''zooms in onto a [[Sonic]] wristwatch pinned to the wall'']

Wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, I said the wristwatches! Wristwatches!

Wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, I said the wrist-uh, wrist, wrist, I said the wrist-uh, wrist, wristwatches! Wristwatches! Wristwatches!

Wriiiiistwatches! [''zooms in onto his 3DS and 3DS wrist charger"]

Wriist, wriist, I said the wriist, wriist, I said the wriist, wriist, I said the...WISTRATCHES!

Ba-da, ba-da BOOM!

Wristwatches, for Master Thor-''[video ends]''

[[Category:Chris-chan videos, August 2011]]
[[Category:Videos Christian uploaded to ]]

Wristwatch-SwissWatch for Jeremy "Thorg"

2011-08-21T16:47:20Z

ThatMan:

{{Recent}}

'''Wristwatch-SwissWatch for Jeremy "Thorg"''' is a video released by [[Chris]] on 20 [[August 2011]]. It is a bizarre ballad to wristwatches dedicated to Thorg. Chris shows off various wristwatches in his collection and flashes his [[PSP]], TV, and [[3DS]] with images of wristwatches on them. Despite being barely over a minute in length, Chris quickly gets [[Obesity|out of breath]] while singing. The [[Sailor Moon Poster of Fail|Sailor Moon poster]] is briefly focused on.
Oddly, though his [[Exposed - Jeremy Slonwhite of Vancouver, BC Canada|previous video]] blackmailing Thorg was removed, [[Autism|he felt the need]] to tag the video with "blackmail". 11 wristwatches are featured in this video.

This video marks the debut of his "custom" 3DS, which has been fitted onto some sort of band on his wrist, acting like the PIP-Boy from the Fallout franchise. As with any other device that Chris owns, the 3DS is covered in stickers, the only recognizable ones being Bumblebee from [[Transformers]], and the [[My Little Pony]] logo. This was basically a pointless video like many of his videos before, it was basically made due to his autism.

==Video==

{{Infobox/video
| name = Wristwatch-SwissWatch for Jeremy "Thorg"
| video = {{youtube:|yuaYqiOEB6c}}
| stardate = 20 [[August 2011]]
| subject = {{Music|text}}
| style = {{Crazy|text}}
| saga = {{Tomgirl|text}}
| shirt = Unknown
| previous = [[Kaka Makeup Basics]]
| next = Current
}}

==Transcript==
[''Chris spends the entire duration of this video showing various devices with pictures of wristwatches on them, most notably a 3DS and a PSP attached to his wrists]''

[''brandishes an unopened Super Mario World-themed wristwatch'']

Here's a little somethin' dedicated to [[Thorg|Master Thorg]].

Wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, I said wrist, wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, wristwatches! Wristwatches!

Wrist, wrist, I said the wristwatches! Wristwatches! ''[pause]'' Wristwatches!

Wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, I said the WRISTWATCHES! Wristwatchesss!

[''zooms in onto a [[Sonic]] wristwatch pinned to the wall'']

Wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, I said the wristwatches! Wristwatches!

Wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, I said the wrist-uh, wrist, wrist, I said the wrist-uh, wrist, wristwatches! Wristwatches! Wristwatches!

Wriiiiistwatches! [''zooms in onto his 3DS and 3DS wrist charger"]

Wriist, wriist, I said the wriist, wriist, I said the wriist, wriist, I said the...WISTRATCHES!

Ba-da, ba-da BOOM!

Wristwatches, for Master Thor-''[video ends]''

[[Category:Chris-chan videos, August 2011]]
[[Category:Videos Christian uploaded to ]]

Wristwatch-SwissWatch for Jeremy "Thorg"

2011-08-21T16:47:09Z

ThatMan:

{{Recent}}

'''Wristwatch-SwissWatch for Jeremy "Thorg"''' is a video released by [[Chris]] on 20 [[August 2011]]. It is a bizarre ballad to wristwatches dedicated to Thorg. Chris shows off various wristwatches in his collection and flashes his [[PSP]], TV, and [[3DS]] with images of wristwatches on them. Despite being barely over a minute in length, Chris quickly gets [[Obesity|out of breath]] while singing. The [[Sailor Moon Poster of Fail|Sailor Moon poster]] is briefly focused on.
Oddly, though his [[Exposed - Jeremy Slonwhite of Vancouver, BC Canada|previous video]] blackmailing Thorg was removed, [[Autism|he felt the need]] to tag the video with "blackmail". 11 wristwatches are featured in this video.

This video marks the debut of his "custom" 3DS, which has been fitted onto some sort of band on his wrist, acting like the PIP-Boy from the Fallout franchise. As with any other device that Chris owns, the 3DS is covered in stickers, the only recognizable ones being Bumblebee from [[Transformers]], and the [[My Little Pony]] logo. This was basically a pointless video like many of his videos before, it was basically made due to his autism.

==Video==

{{Infobox/video
| name = Wristwatch-SwissWatch for Jeremy "Thorg"
| video = {{#youtube:|yuaYqiOEB6c}}
| stardate = 20 [[August 2011]]
| subject = {{Music|text}}
| style = {{Crazy|text}}
| saga = {{Tomgirl|text}}
| shirt = Unknown
| previous = [[Kaka Makeup Basics]]
| next = Current
}}

==Transcript==
[''Chris spends the entire duration of this video showing various devices with pictures of wristwatches on them, most notably a 3DS and a PSP attached to his wrists]''

[''brandishes an unopened Super Mario World-themed wristwatch'']

Here's a little somethin' dedicated to [[Thorg|Master Thorg]].

Wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, I said wrist, wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, wristwatches! Wristwatches!

Wrist, wrist, I said the wristwatches! Wristwatches! ''[pause]'' Wristwatches!

Wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, I said the WRISTWATCHES! Wristwatchesss!

[''zooms in onto a [[Sonic]] wristwatch pinned to the wall'']

Wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, I said the wristwatches! Wristwatches!

Wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, I said the wrist, wrist, I said the wrist-uh, wrist, wrist, I said the wrist-uh, wrist, wristwatches! Wristwatches! Wristwatches!

Wriiiiistwatches! [''zooms in onto his 3DS and 3DS wrist charger"]

Wriist, wriist, I said the wriist, wriist, I said the wriist, wriist, I said the...WISTRATCHES!

Ba-da, ba-da BOOM!

Wristwatches, for Master Thor-''[video ends]''

[[Category:Chris-chan videos, August 2011]]
[[Category:Videos Christian uploaded to ]]

Talk:Evan

2011-08-13T05:03:47Z

ThatMan:

I SIGNED UP JUST TO EDIT MY OWN PAGE WANNA FIGHT ABOUT IT oh god i'm such a faggot. [[User:Evang7|Evang7]] 05:42, 14 April 2009 (CEST)
:{{Template:Namefaggotry}} I sure do. Better be carefull, young man! :3 [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 10:22, 14 April 2009 (CEST)
::I don't even want to be here oh god i'm so embarassed [[User:Evang7|Evang7]] 00:34, 15 April 2009 (CEST)
:::god damn rachmaninov, don't be such a faggot, evan opened the god damn pandora's box

also this is related:

Everything has its beginning...but it doesn't start at one. It starts long before that...in chaos. The world was born...from zero. The moment zero becomes one is the moment the world springs to life. One becomes two, two becomes 10, 10 becomes 100. Taking it all back to one solves nothing. So long as zero remains, one will eventually grow to 100 again. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 05:29, 28 April 2009 (CEST)

also i want to say this:

It wasn't stripping him of his innocence. He was never innocent. It was ignorance that kept him "innocent". Ignorance is bliss they say, so true. So...true. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 05:32, 28 April 2009 (CEST)
:No, he certainly never was innocent, but he's certainly become a lot more disgusting due to the influence of SLATE AND HANDER from trolls. But really, right now he's the one hurting himself. Everything horrible to come about recently is just...stuff he released himself and it's hard to feel guilty for him because of that. I'm still sympathetic towards him to an extent, but he's...well, Chris-chan. I've never had a more muddled amount of thoughts over one person. He's too interesting to just stop following.

:I guess I still do regret my role in all of this, but it's not like I could really do anything. The best I can do is sit back and tell Simonla to go forth and DO THE IMPOSSIBLE SEE THE INVISIBLE because I guess I am her father in Chris-chan world. [[User:Evang7|Evang7]] 23:47, 28 April 2009 (CEST)
::He's been warned of Julie (and I'm fucking surprised he believed it after MOLVANIA and the whole he's a fucking 13 year old.) He's been warned of Ivy. In fact, in the fucking beginning I warned him of Panda! I totally forgot I had done that. Well, fuck it. It doesn't matter. God damn. Just god damn it. Evan, if it makes you feel any better...if it wasn't you who had opened Pandora's Box, it could have been someone worse...[[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 02:08, 29 April 2009 (CEST)
:::It's kinda funny how I can still vividly remember the events leading up to me sending the e-mails off. I guess part of that 15-year-old EPIC TROLL personality is still in me to take joy from reminiscing. I tell myself he would have certainly been "found" by the internet at large anyway, but thinking that I started this whole mess still sorta gets to me. I was just looking at the Patti Chandler article for something I was working on, and looking at images of that poor dog and realizing the last genuine happiness Chris-chan had pertained to that dog makes me feel like the most awful person alive. I don't want to justify being a giant faggot by passing it off as "SOMEONE ELSE WOULDA DONE IT" or "HE'S A HORRIBLE FAGGOT WHO DESERVES IT", even though both of those statements are very true. It just makes me feel like I'm making excuses. The reason I didn't really like having an article here was more or less because it just made me out to be the EPIC TROLL WHO STARTED IT ALL when really I was just some friendless 14-year-old trying to fit in at /v/ by starting his very own EPIC MEEM.

:::But whether I like it or not I am a necessary source on how this whole mess started. When I get the chance tomorrow I will post my awful final e-mail to Chris-chan where I sent him a drawing of me as Pokey and Mary Lee Walsh as Gigyas with what basically equated to a glorified ANON IS LEGION!!! speech for that reason. There's a more personal reason that I wish I didn't send those e-mails, and it's because of what an embarrassing person I was. I can't believe I was really 14 when I sent those to him. What the fuck. [[User:Evang7|Evang7]] 06:07, 30 April 2009 (CEST)
::::EDITOR'S NOTE: I added things up wrong, I was actually 15, but that hardly makes it any better [[User:Evang7|Evang7]] 06:10, 30 April 2009 (CEST)
:::::If it's any consolation, you've helped start a community where all people regardless of [[Niggo|race]], color, or creed can join hands and work together towards a common goal of sending an autistic manchild to the funny farm where he'll truly be happy and we can get closure. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:32, 30 April 2009 (CEST)
::::::You're still a kid, kid. You forgot age Champ. Remember JULAYYYY?! I do. He's still a faggot. Anyway, I'll cut the article down to things. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 02:59, 1 May 2009 (CEST)

Removed the links to his ED page and alternate Deviantart account as both pages no longer exist and are thus just a waste of space to have listed. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 22:03, 12 August 2011 (PDT)

== wait a second ==
If evan revealed Chris's weak spot that means he's SLIPPY TOAD [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:23, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

== Evan in the comic ==

A bit of an updated explanation, in addition to a pic of Evan from the comic. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:05, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Evan

2011-08-13T05:02:49Z

ThatMan:

[[Image:Detailsonichurule34.png|thumb|200px|right|One of Evan's first pieces Sonichu art.]]

'''Evan Christopher George''' is a [[troll]] and the original creator of [[Simonchu]].

Rewind to [[2007]]: [[Sonichu]] was found on the Cartoons image board at [[4chan]]. It soon made its way over to Video Games. On 3 November, a "fanart" (read: dickgirls) thread for Sonichu was made at /v/ and someone suggested that someone there should do the honors of sending him the e-mails. Thinking it to be a good idea at the time, Evan collected the best images from the thread and a pornographic MS Paint comic he drew (pornographic MS Paint comics being his disgusting yet hilarious specialty to this very day) and sent it to [[Chris]]'s AOL e-mail account.

[[Masturbating and squirtin'|The reply]] he got shocked a nation.

The line "masturbating and squirtin'" was the first sign of Chris's more perverse side, and most hilarious of all was the angry drawing of Chris and Sonichu made for his response (an image ripped out of Sub-Episode 3<ref>http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/images/2/23/SchuComic4P24.jpg</ref>), with the words "We're Keeping Track." The [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page was initially made solely to house the responses Evan had been getting and the fanart he had been sending. Eventually Chris threatened to create Evan in ''[[Soul Calibur]] III'' and beat him up, much like he had [[Mary Lee Walsh]], and Evan sent him a drawing of himself just so he could create such a video. However, he never replied and largely forgot these e-mails even happened.

==After the e-mails==

Afterwards he remained in on the Sonichu scene for some time. After initially drawing up fan art in MS Paint of the ''[[Ghostbusters]]'' car from the preview of [[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]], the image was actually used in the comic when it was officially released. Evan was oddly credited by his Encyclopedia Dramatica account name, implying that Chris got the image from ED. However, if he had any sense, he would've realized the same account was used to post those HATEFUL and SLANDEROUS e-mails that ruined his life.

[[Image:Simonchu by Evang y.png|thumb|150px|right|The awful fancharacter that eventually became [[Simonla|worse]].]]

Ironically, in spite of directly confessing multiple times that he was responsible for the Encyclopedia Dramatica articles due to the e-mails he had sent, Chris still blames [[Jason Kendrick Howell]] to this day.

{{anchor|Simonchu}}Eventually he thought it'd be funny to try and get a fan character into Sonichu, creating "Simonchu" due to his at-the-time addiction to ''Gurren Lagann''. This totally backfired on him as Chris turned it into [[mass debating|mass debate]] material, making Simonchu into the character [[Simonla Rosechu]].

==Effort to remove Simonla from ''Sonichu''==

For some time, Evan attempted to have [[Simonla Rosechu]] removed from the comics, stating anger at Simonla being given a [[china]] (which is sort of ironic considering that he gave [[Rosechu]] a [[pickle]], but Chris isn't clever enough to make that point). Christian decided he would include Simonchu in [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]] after reading these e-mails, which would have lead to TWO shitty recolors running around instead of one less as intended--if Chris had actually included Simonchu.

[[Image:GDChandler.png|thumb|left|Another image from the ''Simonchu'' comics.]]

In a Mailbag Chris mentioned to a fan that Evan allowed him to edit Simonchu into Simonla.<ref>[[Mailbag 21]]</ref> Soon after, Evan sent an e-mail to Chris on the [[CWCipedia]], calling BS on that claim, only to be ignored.<ref>[[Mailbag 22]]</ref> Evan sent a second e-mail, demanding that, as his character, Simonla be killed off on-screen. Evan got a response, blankly informing him that Simonla was essentially Chris's character now, since he decided she would date [[Wild Sonichu]].<ref>[[Mailbag 26]]</ref>

Evan persisted in his actions to remove Simonla from the comic, his e-mails to the Mailbag either being answered bluntly or being entirely ignored. Chris insisted on what he called "The Brother/Sister Plan", stating he would put Simonchu into the comics as Simonla's brother. However, Evan protested this, not wanting TWO bastardizations of his character running around. The situation culminated in [[Mailbag 43#...Well,_this_is_disturbing!|an e-mail originally sent to enlighten Chris on the use of IP addresses]]. As a sidenote, Evan asked Chris to remove Simonla once more; Chris promptly retorted with a long-winded and completely bizarre statement:

{{quote|YOUR Simonchu came to [[Cwcville]] while I was holding a Town Meeting, came up to Simonla (Simonchu's Sister) while The True Wild Sonichu was with Her. Simonchu told Simonla that you wanted her back home as quickly as possible. Simonla REFUSED Heavily; She is Very Happy in Cwcville, VA, rather than the c***-shack known as "Ecgville"...

...Later, Simonchu reports to you that she refuses to return to you, and you realize that with MY G.D.C. Powers, you have to let it be and move on in peace in real life. I am the Great Director Chandler!|Chris, [[Chris and reality|completely losing his grip on reality.]]}}

Ironically, earlier that day Chris uploaded an image to [[CWCipedia]] encouraging support for aid to the 2010 Haiti earthquake disaster, depicting Simonchu and Simonla working together to build a table. The construction of this table was so monumental that the two placed a plaque in front of it stating [[Chris and reality|"Rebuilt by the Brother/Sister Team of Simonla and Simonchu"]].

Unwilling to let him continue to use Simonchu as well as his "sister", Evan sent [[Mailbag 44#I want to see Simonla die so very badly|Chris another email]], warning him that it would be his last chance to remove both characters from the Haiti image and the comics. Chris states that, despite all her relatively obvious similarities to Simonchu, that Simonla is a "SEPARATE, INDIVIDUAL CHARACTER", and that Evan should stop [[stress|stressing out]] about it. Chris also claims that, although the character is based on Simonchu, the fact that he ''could'' have come up with her on his own basically amounts to her being an original character. Later, Chris would attempt to call a "retraction" and erase all evidence of Simonla ever being inspired by Simonchu, hoping that this would provide an easy escape to the problem. Of course, it didn't.

On [[I am Alive|6 February 2010]], Chris revealed that he was finally doing away with Simonla and removing her entry from the CWCipedia. However, this didn't please Evan, especially when Chris said he'd do it "later". In response, his lawyers had the CWCipedia slapped with a cease and desist notice to fully remove the character, forcing the Sysop to close the CWCipedia to edits. This resulted in Evan [[9 February 2010|destroying the undestroyable]].

On 14 [[February 2010]], Evan released two pages from [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]] which he had received from Chris. The first page is essentially a written form of his apology videos to Alec and Evan, whilst the second page involves Simonla finally being killed, by way of an exploding toilet. While this conformed to Alec's wishes, Chris as usual refuses to admit total defeat, and implies Wild is out for "revenge."

==''Simonchu'' comic==

Evan used to work on ''Simonchu'', a comic series describing the adventures of Simonchu as Evan intended. It was hosted on the [[Asperpedia]], due to Evan entrusting the rights of Simonchu to Alec Benson Leary. Whether Chris's mysterious G.D.C. powers have taken their effect on Evan's free will remains to be seen.

After Chris finally killed off Simonla, Evan put the ''Simonchu'' comic on hold. Evan's stance on the possibility of more ''Simonchu'' comics is so far unknown.

==In the comics==
Evan appeared in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]]: attempting to drop something on Simonla to kill her, he's stopped by [[Magi-Chan]] before he can. However, [[Alec Benson Leary]] ends up doing so, planting an exploding [[Pokémon#Voltorb|Voltorb]] in the toilet and killing Simonla. Evan is imprisoned along with Alec, [[Sean]] and [[Mao]] (Sean and Mao having done nothing to them) and given a biased show trial that predictably gets them sentenced to death. Evan is tortured to death (having his hands and feet amputated and his [[duck]] mutilated) by Wild and his new child, [[Sandy Rosechu]]. And since Evan is, according the rules of the CWC-verse, Sandy's grandfather, a whole new layer of disturbing is added to the whole thing.

In [[Book10Replacement|the revised ending]], Evan is instead exiled to the Amish community, where, without Internet access, he can no longer troll.

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File:Evan responds to his death.png|Evan calls Chris out on death by genital mutilation.
File:Evan responds to his death2.png|More explanation why kids drill dicks
</gallery>
</center>

==References==
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==External links==
*[http://4chanarchive.org/brchive/dspl_thread.php5?thread_id=7631380&x=sonichu 4chanarchive link of the Sonichu fanart thread]. Later down the thread posters begin conspiring to send the posted images to him, and a shot of the fateful e-mail that started this enormous mess can be seen.
*[http://4chanarchive.org/brchive/dspl_thread.php5?thread_id=7656940&x=sonichu+response The thread made to unveil Chris's response.] This would be the first contact between Chris and his SLANDEROUS troll enemies. Evan was banned from /v/ for a week because of this thread, for "conspiring invasion". If they only knew.

{{trolls}}
{{people}}
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[[Category:Asperchu Saga]]

Talk:Calling Out

2011-08-11T03:41:11Z

ThatMan: /* SurfShackTito (Don) Response? */

{{Not_A_Forum}}

transcribing--[[User:Crooked tooth|Crooked tooth]] 12:42, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
Sorry i cant transcribe my computer is fucking up--[[User:Crooked tooth|Crooked tooth]] 15:24, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
The ''Calling Out "Tito" - Don'' video says it's unavailable =/ --[[User:Elliebytes|Elliebytes]] 12:53, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
:At the moment there is a problem with the video (probably Chris being a dumbass). It's viewable on his YouTube channel page, and I'm about to upload a backup until we can get it on the CWCVilleLibrary. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 12:54, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

Do we really want to be talking about the pix on here? Someone might read it. -[[User:BrianBash|BrianBash]] 15:35, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
: We won't know the true authenticity of the photos until Chris surrenders them. Until such a time, please refrain from theories as to who might be depicted in the photos. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 16:34, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

== Tomboy/Tomgirl forum ==

I cannot believe that stalking him actually lured him out of his "retirement."

== Hiatus Stats ==

This video hiatus from November 22, 2010 to August 6, 2011 was '''257 days long.'''

This is not Chris's longest hiatus from Youtube. The gap between [[Captain's Log, Stardate November 7th, 2007]] and [[Captain's Log, Stardate August 3rd, 2008]] was '''270 days long'''.

*I used the date calculator on timeanddate.com to compile this and I did not include the end date. I don't know if this belong on the actual Calling Out page or somewhere else. So I'm just writing it here for reference. Feel free to add the info to this or another article. -- [[User:Crow|Crow]] 18:28, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

Went ahead and added this to the [[Chris and the Internet]] page. [[User:Dantz|Dantz]] 20:18, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

I find it funny how his self-introduction is still word for word from one of his [[Captain%27s_Log,_Stardate_August_3rd,_2008|earliest videos to the fandom]]- shows how little he's changed. Signfiicant enough to add to the video's description? --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 01:46, 9 August 2011 (PDT)

== Billboard, events, and Heather ==

Chris mentions being on a billboard in New York. Do we have any pictures of that? Do we have any information at all about the previous events to lead up to this?? And is the Heather he spoke of "Wallflower". If so, I think it's note-worthy that we mention that he still says they were dating at one point when she has said before (multiple times) that they weren't. If it isn't Wallflower...we need to find out who the heck she is. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 22:15, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
: Yes, yes, and yes. And yes: Chris is delusional.--[[User:Henry Bemis|Henry Bemis]] 22:29, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

:: To answer your questions, Vans shoes had some promotion at the end of 2009 where people could submit photos that would go up on a billboard in Times Square. There were over 4 submitted of Chris by various trolls. The pics are probably somewhere, but I can't find them... Also, for the record, the Wallflower has a standing agreement with the CWCki not to be publicly identified. she shall be referred to only as the Wallflower, as we are true and honest, unlike Chris. --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 22:45, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

::*I haven't gotten a chance to closely watch the videos, but how to handle the mention of the Wallflower is addressed [[CWCki:The Wallflower|here]]. Her name stays in the transcript but there's to be no linking and such. Also, the billboard images are [[20_December_2009|here]].--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:23, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
:::* Ah, I apologize for my naivety on this matter. I feel that to keep the agreement with her, if it is necessary, this part of the talk (that violates the agreement) should be deleted. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 10:37, 7 August 2011 (PDT)
:::*Speaking of that, he's saying that they ''had'' dated (calling her his "ex-girlfriend" in the video). Would it be safer to go ahead and change her name to "The Wallflower"?--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 18:41, 7 August 2011 (PDT)
::*So is linking from a ''Wallflower'' page (or from a ''Wallflower'' section of another page) to this page also verboten? --[[User:BrianBash|BrianBash]] 20:26, 7 August 2011 (PDT)
:::*If you mean linking The Wallflower's real name or reference to her to The Wallflower page, then yes, that is forbidden. I'd say same goes with any modifier, like if we were to link "ex-girlfriend" to [[The Wallflower]], pretty much anything that connects that person's name with the status of the Wallflower. Now personally, it's getting kinda silly because Chris keeps dropping her name BUT nonetheless we have an agreement to keep and we're not total jackasses. Her name should definitely remain in the transcript though, accurate transcription is crucial. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:57, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

== Spoiling the Fun ==
After seeing him demand money, I just had to respond to him directly. I sent him the following PM.

<blockquote><TT>
On the threshold of legal trouble. 
>"But anyway, moving on with my demands, I would like- also like you to set to-send me via U.S. Mail, ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS CASH. American. Unmarked billssss," 

You do realize that Extortion is a crime. Doing so through the United States Postal Service crossing state lines makes it a federally prosecutable offense. You'd be wise to remove your "Calling Out" videos before they get mirrored and used against you in a court of law. 
</TT></blockquote>
[[User:LordCustos3|LordCustos3]] 09:36, 8 August 2011 (PDT)
: User was banned for this post. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 10:28, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

Congratulations. You're one of many people being made fun of on /cwc/ at this precise moment. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 09:37, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

==Thorg = Thorgnzorrg==
I'm pretty sure that ''Thorg'' is actually [[User:Thorgnzorrg]]. Can we mention it, for the sake of being good, clear and trustworthy source of informations of Chris' lifetime? [[User:Hasharin|Hasharin]] 13:31, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

*Nah don't bother linking that, just make me a small page or something. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]]

== Calling Out Alex ==

Uh, I know this is silly to ask, but should we leave that he's used [censored] for this?--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 16:12, 9 August 2011 (PDT)
:* You need to read Anonymax's 16:34, 6 August 2011 reply to the thread at the top of the page. Basically, don't go posting shit about alleged identities of trolls. As for the link to the pic, Imma cuttin it down. --[[User:BrianBash|BrianBash]] 16:28, 9 August 2011 (PDT)
Amazingly, he seems to be correct about the owner of the Game Place. I was expecting that Chris was likely to have fucked up and mixed him up with someone of a similar name and more or less committed slander in front of the world, but: http://sex-offender.vsp.virginia.gov/sor/offenderDetails.html?regId=13957 and here's the information for the Game Place LLC in Virginia:

[[file:Gameplacellc.PNG]]

Unless there's another Robert C Lightburn in the area, Chris was right. Except that the guy was busted for porn possession, not molesting anyone.[[User:Robobobo|Robobobo]] 21:04, 9 August 2011 (PDT)

== SurfShackTito (Don) Response? ==

There supposedly a response (well...a few actually) from Tito. The one I'm actually interested in (because the others really suck and pretty much scream fake) can be found here [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZhlo94cMNk&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL]. Do we have any way to confirm or deny ANY of these supposed responses? --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:29, 9 August 2011 (PDT)
* That one's on the CWCVille Library. I'd be 99.99% sure that it's official.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 21:30, 9 August 2011 (PDT)

On the subject of the response video, should it be placed on this page? Certainly it seems like that would be beneficial in making the events covered by the article easier to follow for future readers. On the other hand, I feel a little apprehensive about putting a non-Chris video in the middle of this article. Perhaps the video could have its own separate page? Granted, I feel even more apprehension towards that idea, as I don't think we should get into the habit of making pages for videos other than Chris's. Of course, it's already posted on [[Surfshack Tito (troll)]], but if events led him to make several more videos then that page will quickly turn into a mess. Plus, in the future it might be difficult for readers to discern were in the timeline Tito's response video fits. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 20:41, 10 August 2011 (PDT)

Talk:100 2357.MOV

2010-11-23T06:46:36Z

ThatMan:

{{Not A Forum}}
Ohhh Snap i can't wait for the Shit storm [[User:ShinGokuIAM|ShinGokuIAM]] 12:24, 22 November 2010 (PST)

Should this article include links to other psuedo-ragequit incidents?--[[User:Spoonman|Spoonman]] 12:55, 22 November 2010 (PST)

So...anyone want to place bets how long THIS ragequit's going to last? [[User:Airrider1|Airrider1]] 13:55, 22 November 2010 (PST)
:I'd give it about a month. It's getting cold out, so he won't be able to go out in the real world as much as he would like to. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 14:00, 22 November 2010 (PST)
::Unless his blubber keeps him warm in the winter. You know, like a hairless walrus with really bad "fangs" and the stench of fast food and shame around him (Well, the shame of others anyway, we know he has none himself). I think that's enough from me for a bit: I'd rather not take all the cheap shots. [[User:Airrider1|Airrider1]] 14:07, 22 November 2010 (PST)

I called the last time he ragequit the internet, I'm gonna say a week or two before Christmas. [[User:ShinGokuIAM|ShinGokuIAM]] 15:35, 22 November 2010 (PST)

Talk:100 2270

2010-10-07T23:22:14Z

ThatMan:

Transcribing...--[[User:Lylelash|Lylelash]] 15:40, 7 October 2010 (PDT)
*Can the transcriber please put in the discussion when they are transcribing so that multiple people don't transcribe...--[[User:Lylelash|Lylelash]] 15:54, 7 October 2010 (PDT)
*Sorry brah, try being quicker ;P Nah, I kid. But seriously. And I have a name. [[User:Enibure|Enibure]] 16:07, 7 October 2010 (PDT)
Unless I'm missing something, he seems to think Alec Benson Leary and Liquid are the same person. Worth mentioning I guess. [[User:I Love Little Girls|I Love Little Girls]] 15:49, 7 October 2010 (PDT)
* Actually he's imitating Liquid imitating Alec Benson Leary. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 16:22, 7 October 2010 (PDT)
== British? ==

Are you sure Chris is trying to do a British accent in this one? Neither Alec nor Liquid are English, and he's saying he's from Pennsylvania (or, indeed, Philadelphia). It sounds to me like he's trying to imitate what he considers to be a nasal quality in Liquid's voice. --[[User:Radishchu|Radishchu]] 16:14, 7 October 2010 (PDT)
*Yeh, that's probably more accurate. To me it seems like he's poorly imitating Eric Cartman's voice from South Park. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 16:22, 7 October 2010 (PDT)

Talk:Song for Jackie.MOV

2010-09-20T16:55:19Z

ThatMan: /* Feature this video */

{{Not_A_Forum}}

Oh my heavenly God... --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 13:47, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

Transcribing, should be done soonish? - [[User:Boop|Boop]] 13:54, 16 September 2010 (PDT)
:Arrr, ya beat me, ya scurvy scallawag! Anyways; Un-fucking-beleivable. It's the 'Falling Towers' video all over again.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 13:56, 16 September 2010 (PDT)
::Done transcribing...jesusfuck. There's parts of it I couldn't really make out, sorry guys. - [[User:Boop|Boop]] 14:26, 16 September 2010 (PDT)
:::We got yer back. Fucking hell.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 14:50, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

Chris is BACK!--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 13:57, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

Evidently, Chris has no idea how racist this is and how doubly creepy it is. Mr. Popo is so creepy that DBZ Abridged made it a running joke. [[User:Ganondorfdude11|Ganondorfdude11]] 13:58, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

Is that what the japanese think Arabs look like?--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 14:03, 16 September 2010 (PDT)
: http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Popo That's all it says (and what it says is pretty damning), I suppose you'd have to ask Akira.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 14:13, 16 September 2010 (PDT)
:: IIRC Mr. Popo was based on depictions of a continental Indian character who looks like a racist stereotype, but actually preceded them. It's all a very touchy and difficult issue, but seeing as how Chris ''knows the full implication of blackface in America and is ostensibly a U.S. citizen'' he ain't got shit for excuses. [[User:EnsignDisposable|EnsignDisposable]] 16:22, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

I've got a vague transcription, I'll stick it on the page but there are quite a few [unintelligable]s and I am a n00b so forgive me. [[User:Enibure|Enibure]] 14:06, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

I believe he's actually sort of cosplaying [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Popo#Mr._Popo Mr. Popo], a minor character from DragonBall Z. --[[User:ErsatzHouse|ErsatzHouse]] 14:15, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

for the ending part it sounded to me like "ain't no saiyans on the fiddle", am i alone in thinking this --[[User:Phlegethon|Phlegethon]] 14:21, 16 September 2010 (PDT)
:Remember, think "uncaringly racist"; he's singinging a minstrel song, which I would imainge are still popular in a redneck racist bible-humping cesspool of society--- In ANY of the 'outdoors' videos, like the McCintyre park video, the shopping spree he won as a kid, the council meeting, Fridays after 5- was there even ONE black person in any of them? Anyways, minstrel songs, the South in 1800's (which isn't that far removed from how it is now, it seems); he was saying "Saints".--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 14:50, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

Still need to categorize this biznitch.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:04, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

I think Chris has gotten fatter because his muscle bra seems to be struggling to keep his man tits from bouncing.--[[User:Bealtespip122|Bealtespip122]] 15:59, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

"Heavenly matched" line should link to http://cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:SchuComic10P09.jpg but I don't know what the link format is, ha-durrrrrrrrrr. XP --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 16:10, 16 September 2010 (PDT)
:Nevermind, found the format.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 16:37, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

* Somebody's backed this up, right? There's no way on hell this is going to last long on youtube --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 09:31, 17 September 2010 (PDT)

==Song?==
Can we get the sauce on the song playing in the background?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 14:08, 16 September 2010 (PDT)
:"Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm" by Crash Test Dummies. [[User:Ganondorfdude11|Ganondorfdude11]] 14:14, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

== Should there be a link for chris and his ego? ==

In his lyrics whiles he's whining about his life story he says "But bullies who '''were jealous''' of his material things"
*Seems kind of minute compared to other examples, but no shit is too minor--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 14:47, 16 September 2010 (PDT)
::Hell, do we even need to invoke that phrase? The only time I would need to use "minor" and "Chris" in the same sentence is to describe his duck, his sexual interests, and his brain.--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 14:56, 16 September 2010 (PDT)
So, it's true that he believes trolls are only after him for his material wealth (of shit). [[User:Nimnoms|Nimnoms]] 15:06, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

==Blackface==
I really thought it was just an innocent naive version of Popo and he doesn't unterstand the racial implications but then he blows it all away with his own little minstrel show at the end. I know this is not a forum and all, but I guess this can be interesting for the article - how does a roomdweller with the mind of a 12 year old can make such a spot on impression?
TL;DR
Where is the 'fiddle routine' ripped off from? --[[User:Maximilian Graves|Maximilian Graves]] 15:16, 16 September 2010 (PDT)
:This shouldn't be a NAF issue because it deals directly with the content of the article. Chris isn't in blackface. He's dressed up as Mr. Popo, who isn't in blackface—he's a member of a species who just looks like that. It's obviously arguable that it ''looks'' like he was in blackface and that the character's design could've been inspired by it, but the most likely explanation is that the DANG DIRTY TROLLS knew this much better than Chris.
{{quote|You ain't seen no niggers on the fiddle. No niggers on the fiddle like this. You ain't seen no niggers on the fiddle no niggers on the fiddle like this.|[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0215545/quotes Womack, ''Bamboozled'']}}
:—[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 15:52, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

So I guess ''Bamboozled'' is one the many things Chris misinterpreted. Despite its glaringly unsubtle satire, he ''still'' didn't get it. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 16:47, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

== Feature this video ==

Holy fuck, jackie is the best sweetheart. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 00:23, 17 September 2010 (PDT)

Julie is still the greatest, I agree on featuring the video though...should we make an article about Chris and Cosplay? This isn't the first time he's dressed up as something...nor do I think will it be the last.--[[User:Lylelash|Lylelash]] 08:41, 17 September 2010 (PDT)
*I don't think we have enough material for that, mate.--[[User:Loserbrain|Loserbrain]] 09:03, 17 September 2010 (PDT)
**Don't forget [[Hello, Juffalo]][[User:Sinisterminister|Sinisterminister]] 15:29, 17 September 2010 (PDT)
***Both of these videos would make for a good "Chris and Makeup" article. We can even throw the [[War Paint Video]] in there too! --This post brought to you by [[User:ShotgunJones|ShotgunJones]] 18:58, 17 September 2010 (PDT). Thanks for reading!
Chris and Makeup or Chris and Cosplay, the El Groucho costume from "it's ok to be gay pt 2", juffalo, this, war paint, the ash ketchum costume...we have enough material to start the article...it certainly has played a role in his life.--[[User:Lylelash|Lylelash]] 20:49, 17 September 2010 (PDT)
*Personally I feel this would work better as a section of [[Chris and Fashion]]. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 09:47, 20 September 2010 (PDT)
**So well, in fact, that such a subsection already exists! [[Chris and fashion#Cosplaying|Chris and fashion]]

Talk:Song for Jackie.MOV

2010-09-20T16:47:52Z

ThatMan: /* Feature this video */

User talk:VanKrause/CWC music

2010-08-18T20:20:03Z

ThatMan:

#REDIRECT [[Fan:Chris-chan: The Soundtrack of Fail]

Bob Walks In Aftermath

2010-07-27T15:15:50Z

ThatMan: Fixed a few things in the transcription

[[category:Phone calls]]

[[Chris]]'s conversation with[[ Julie]], after [[Bob]] cut down the internet. Julie is inaudible throughout.

==Transcript==
Hello Julie. Now listen, you have to talk to me, I'm calling you from my [[PSP]]. It does not accept typed feedback.

[''Pause'']

Yeah, sorry about that my dad just- my dad- you're right, I should have answered the phone. My dad got some ca- calls from a troll, claiming that I was going to commit suicide on [[YouTube]].

[''Brief pause, sigh''] That bastard. At least I still have my PSP so I can call you on that. My dad shut down the [[computer]] and he doesn't want me back on there.

[''Pause'']

Yeah, I still got my [[PS3]], and the wifi, and my PSP. So between them I'm o- between them I'm okay. But I can, uh, if you want- uh want us to do, uh, if you want us to do like, our cybersex we're definitely going to have to go audio. Audio only no- I, yeah so- what's that? Yeah that's gonna take awhile. Cuz he's not- you should see- he's old, and he doesn't take things as easily as, uh the younger generation can. I also- I also had like a chat window set up in the PS3, just after father interrupted and I sent you a chat invite. But then I remembered- then I remembered just the PSN on my PSP, so I got you on here.

[''Pause'']

Yeah. He just said "Just leave me alone." Next to go- (???) Then I'll wake my mother up, but uh, he woke her up, and then she came upstairs, just after I had opened the chat window on my PS3, and uh... I basically describe to her what I was doing without saying "[[mass debating|masturbation]]" or "cybersex"

[''Brief pause'']

Only my- only my mother knows about it. And she has this- she has this thing in her mind against, uh, she has this thing in her mind against being able to believe people- people over the internet and falling in love with them so easily. Yeah, so I don't say- so that's why I didn't say anything about that to her at this time. Even though she would have been- she would have been open-minded about it since I have told her previously about my masturbation.

[''Pause'']

I told my mother about you, yeah.

[''Brief pause'']

She says she'll believe it when she sees you in person.

[''Pause'']

And I think she...

[''Pause'']

Yeah. Yeah [[Clyde Cash|Clyde]] or some other troll but more likely Clyde.

[''Pause'']

I don't know, I do not answer the phone but my mom said that she heard the voice before on the telephone. Cuz, she picked up at one time. And she said that she had heard the voice before. But then my father picked it up, then you know what happened.

[''Pause'']

[''Sigh''] Yeah he's just real mad. He gets riled up very easily in the nighttime.

[''Pause'']

What am I gonna do now? Hmmm. Well pretty much now, my erection has been undone (???) and I'm not feeling in the mood for it right now, but you know hey, on the bright side, we still have Sunday Valentines Date in LittleBig- in [[LittleBigPlanet]].

[''Pause'']

What. Yeah. Maybe we can chat on the PSN or through skype through my PSP here. Cuz I'm not sure on this, the time anyway. I just mean it causes stress, I mean- you know I was feeling so elated and made me feel embarrassed and got me all keyed up with stress.

[''Long Pause'']

Hmm. I'm not sure how to explain it to him, cuz I never told him about my masturbation.

[''Pause'']

And he's not very- he's not as open-minded as my mother is about the subject.

[''Pause'']

Mmm. So, I think, uhh, you know that at this point if you are cybersex through audio only you either through the PSN or Skype right here.

[''Pause'']

Your brother doesn't like to- your brother doesn't like to hear your erotic moaning?

[''Brief Pause'']

H-He told you that?

[''Pause'']

Oh.

[''Brief Pause'']

Ohhhh.

[''Brief Pause'']

Hmm.

[''Pause'']

Oh.

[''Brief Pause'']

I see .

[''Brief Pause'']

Hmm.

[''Brief Pause'']

No. I nev-never thought that would've crossed my mind.

[''Brief Pause'']

I mean- I mean uhh...

[''Brief Pause'']

I-I would say for most men that, uhh...

[''Brief Pause'']

??? conditions myself.

[''Brief Pause'']

You know, I'd rather this went on (???)

[''Brief Pause'']

Fo-For sure. Then the-Then I don't make an assumption. Yeah, cuz I just, well, I just don't make an assumption off the bat about the orientation.

[''Pause'']

Sigh.

[''Brief Pause'']

[''Chris makes some strange noises. It almost sounds like he's moaning'']

[''Pause'']

So.

[''Brief Pause'']

Hmm. Uh, y-y-so, y-so (???), so if he ever did talk to you about your erotic moaning, so-

[''Brief Pause'']

Y-y-so you didn't really talk to your brother about you doing that with me?

[''Brief Pause'']

And that we're in love.

[''Brief Pause'']

You didn't talk to him?

[''Long Pause'']

Alright.

[''Attempts to talk, sighs'']

Okay.

[''Brief Pause'']

Alright, so- alright, so uhh let me do that in the what?

[''Pause'']

Oh, in this house.

[''Pause'']

Hmm.

[''Tape Ends'']

{{Transcription}}

==Download==

http://www.mediafire.com/?jmtmmwimgz0

{{FanChats}}

User talk:Delabonte

2010-07-25T04:24:29Z

ThatMan: /* Chris n Weed */

At least you get the joke. YOUR AN HERO TO ME, DELABONTE! --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:34, 2 May 2009 (CEST)

Oh lol, my bad. Was in grammar nazi mode, fixing typos. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 16:10, 2 May 2009 (CEST)

==Congratulations!==

You were mentioned in the [[Rollin' and Trollin'|new video]]. Nice. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:48, 17 July 2009 (CEST)

*Thanks. This calls for a box to go on my userpage. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 04:59, 18 July 2009 (CEST)
:*Oh Lord, I just your pro tip on your user page and I LOL'd. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:33, 9 September 2009 (CEST)

==Lovely Weather==
"Sex under false pretence IS statutory rape. Also saying Chris raped his future wife is funnier."

I'm not going to sit here and have an edit war with you, but I believe you are mistaken, Mr. ex-Minister. I can find ''no'' evidence of sex under false pretense being considered rape of any kind. It certainly is sexual assault, but I can't find any legitimate site that claims it to be rape (aside from random postings of failtowns on forums). Unless you can provide some evidence, I'd say that you're simply wrong about that.

On top of that, you're right in saying that it's "funnier" to say that he raped her, but that's not the point. We're supposed to document what actually happened/was implied. We don't need to make up things to make Chris look like more of a douche; he does that for us enough as it is. --[[User:Tristran|Tristran]] 04:15, 11 December 2009 (CET)
*You're... You're kidding, right? If she doesn't know who he is, and thinks he is someone else, she cannot give consent. Sex without consent is rape. You're pretty gross for arguing that's not what happened, because it totally is. --[[User:Sonichuis44|sonichuis44]] 04:26, 11 December 2009 (CET)
:*She ''thinks'' she knows who he is, though. He deceived her and got her to willingly consent to sex with him. That's not ''rape''. It's sexual assault. --[[User:Tristran|Tristran]] 04:30, 11 December 2009 (CET)
:*Every weekend, I'm over at a singles' bar in the area. I always lie out of my ass just to get laid. One week I'm an airplane pilot, the other I'm a venture capitalist, one day I was even a comic book artist. And now you're telling me I'm a rapist? --[[User:Lynxr|Lynxr]] 04:46, 11 December 2009 (CET)
::*Of course she ''thinks'' she does; that's part of the deception. Look, if I dress up like Jimmy Hill and go over to your house and you go "Oh God, Jimmy Hill!" then tear off my clothes and go down on me (cause u gay like that), then I rip off my mask after jizzing on your face and go "Surprise! I'm really Internet Comedian SonichuIs44!" I've raped you. You consented to sex with Jimmy Hill, not with me. Even if I never reveal I'm not Jimmy Hill, I've raped you; you never consented to sex with me. You could at least try arguing it's not rape based on the fact that she's having sex with Chris either way. And pray tell what is the difference between rape and sexual assault?
:::Lynxr, you're not telling them that you're someone else though; if you convinced them you're really Tom Hanks, but you're not (I'll assume you're not), you've deceived them. --[[User:Sonichuis44|sonichuis44]] 04:48, 11 December 2009 (CET)

:::"It certainly is sexual assault" - what do you think rape is? Time-travel sexual assault laws have yet to be tested, but from where I stand if you have sex with someone knowingly under false pretense, then it's not fully consensual. Also, this is the CWCki not the supreme court. And saying Chris travelled through time to rape his future wife is still funnier. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 04:53, 11 December 2009 (CET)
:::*You both have a interesting definitions of consent. What you're saying is that it isn't consent unless she knows the full truth. That's... horribly illogical and simply untrue. Now, specifically for Sonichuis44, the difference between rape and sexual assault is that rape is entirely forced and without consent (or in some cases of statutory rape, simply consensual sex with a minor). Chris ''has consent'' in this case, whether you want to admit that or not. She willingly did it with him, and not under threats or force (unless there's something he's not telling us about this fictional story that he, himself, made up in the first place). It's as simple as that. Maybe what he did violated her, maybe she really wouldn't care all that much if she knew the truth, but it doesn't really matter, but it seems pretty obvious that she agreed to it. Back to the point, though, rape is a ''subset'' of sexual assault. Sexual assault involves undesired sexual contact, but it might not involve intercourse in any way (such as sexual touching), or, even if it does... well... that's relative to who's making the rules in whatever jurisdiction. Some things that are generally considered sexual assault in most places are mitigated to full-blown rape status in other places and vice versa. I don't really care to get too into that, but the fact of the matter is that he had her consent, and that's what's relevant here. However, I'm done arguing about this fictional story. Further arguing about a sexual encounter that never happened, nor ever could (as time-travel like that is, from a logical standpoint, absolutely impossible), seems ridiculous. --[[User:Tristran|Tristran]] 05:17, 11 December 2009 (CET)

*Don't bring logic into this. Also, Chris agrees with you: "You are misunderstood, it was not rape; She mistook me for my future self, and She Asked Me to have sex with her.". This means you are wrong. Good day sir. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 05:31, 11 December 2009 (CET)
:*We may have had a tense discussion, and you may well have been a piss-poor Minister of Defense, but... I've decided that I like you, Seinor Delabonte. Your lulziness rating qualifies you for the much-coveted Badge of Lulziness and All-Around Goodness, which you may apply for by filling out the form that will be mailed to you shortly. Please allow blah blah blah blah. Good day. --[[User:Tristran|Tristran]] 06:54, 11 December 2009 (CET)

== Temporary ban ==

Dude, Cody is a newfag but he's trying his best from what I've seen thus far. I don't give a fuck of he's a juggalo elsewhere and as I told BlueSpike, I'm not banning him from CWCki unless he starts shit here. As I said [[User_talk:Wwwwolf#Question|here]], I will not ban a user unless they do shit on the CWCki like harass users, vandalism, etc.

Delabonte, I am disappoint, son. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:53, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

*I apologise. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 13:52, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

== PRO TIP ==

With the welcome template, you have to manually enter your user name so if a new user wanted to ask you a question, there would be a direct link, so it'd look like <nowiki>{{welcome|Delabonte}}</nowiki> and it would provide a link to your talk page where they can ask you a question. Yeah, it's lame but I'm not sure if the process can be automated or anything. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:58, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

== I love you ==

For your "Not a forum" template. You've made me proud.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:39, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

== User Pages ==

I don't know who you are you what you are, and I don't really care - but don't edit userpages of others. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 16:15, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

I should have known. You are a PVCC member and a member of the old guard. A newfag like me has no chance. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 01:47, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
*You keep repeating this like it's going to make me respect you but continuing with your Autistic actions. Don't shit on my cupcake and tell me it's icing. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 04:07, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
*Hi 16BitAlex. I was informed I'm not allowed to call you a fag on your talk page. So, hi. Fag. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 04:39, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:*HEY GUISE, I MADE A VIDEO THAT WARDS OFF FAGGOTS...

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::LET ME KNOW IF IT WORKS. ALSO, 16BITALEX TOLD ME HE COVERED HIS DICK IN APPLESAUCE AND LIKED IT. THEN HE ERASED IT TO HIDE THAT FACT. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 07:18, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

*This is good and you should feel good. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 07:57, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

==Messages to Alex==

Why did you eat your homework? --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 07:57, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

:It tasted better than apples.
:
:And, I cannot accept. To me, eating apples is equivalent to dressing in women's garments, and unlike Chris, I do not have a desire to be a woman (see Crystal the twin sister). --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 14:42, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

:BTW, I approve of my quote on your user page, unlike that last one. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 16:33, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

1) I have no desire for your approval.
2) We're not singling you out here. All PVCC members have to undergo a test of loyalty. This is yours. If you are too cowardly to complete it please refrain from bitching about the PVCC being a closed community, and remember that you had your chance. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 01:50, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

:(since Gary was a loser and Ash was here last time) This was against my personal beliefs. Almost anything that didn't involve eating or drinking a vile "healthy" substance, I might have done. And then you have the nerve to spit in my face after you gave me a task I could and would not complete. I AM NOT A COWARD. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 03:02, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Do you understand the sacrifices people have made to join the PVCC? Trolling Chris at this level requires nerves of steel. It requires somebody willing to face their worst fear. As you yourself have said, you cannot eat an apple. '''You are a coward''' and I was wrong to ever think you were one of us. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 07:44, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:What Delabonte said. I have seen trolls go to the highest highs and the lowest lows to achieve lulz. And you? You won't even eat a fucking fruit. '''That shows you are completely and totally spineless.''' Getting into the PVCC usually involves proving that you are not a faggot. You haven't. What the hell makes you think you would last 5 minutes in there? We're not spitting in your face, you are spitting in ours. Basically, you want to sit around with your thumb up your ass and be worthless yet still hang out with people who do more than play Rock Band all day. '''Go back to your plastic instruments you sniveling, chicken-shit, coward.''' --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 10:56, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::My 360's dead, remember? No more Rock Band for me. I literally have nothing. I can't get a job because I haven't worked a day in my life, and no one will hire a rookie. And who said I wanted to post there? I'd just lurk moar there. Better than lurking in /cwc/. What are these highest highs and lowest lows? I am pretty sure fruit is not one of them. I will not stop until I am in. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 16:56, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Heh, I'm watching this unfold and I'd just like to comment that I love how you are acting just like Chris. You apparently won't be useless because your shitty game broke. Because your game broke, you have nothing, which is like Chris except his games haven't broken yet (yet he has equally little in real life). You expect people to pity you because you've never contributed to society. You have a sense of entitlement that you think earns you the right to walk through a locked door and just sit on the inside. People get into PVCC because they want to not be useless pieces of shit all day. Lurking is not what they do. God damn. Fuck a fruit basket. (inb4 not a forum/trolling, I have a need to speak my mind that borders on faggotry, I know, but it isn't trolling.) :3 [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 17:10, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::::"Not a forum" is for article talk pages. If only society gave me a chance to contribute. Society gave Chris a chance. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 17:14, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Jesus Christ, you really are a '''sniveling coward'''. More than I even imagined. There's a hole in your story. It says right on your user page <blockquote>"...but I wish I could contribute to the troll efforts.."</blockquote> and now you tell us you just want to sit on the sidelines. I know why there's a change to your tune. '''You're afraid'''. As for highs and lows, it seems you are also an illiterate dipshit. Do you think field agents want to be around Chris? Do you think that people walk around in pickle suits in public for fun? Some of the trolls have suffered severe embarrassment and just plain disgusting situations. You can't even eat an apple so you can "lurk moar" on a fucking forum. That is the '''epitome of cowardice'''. No wonder you have a pathetic life. You are too scared to do anything except '''nothing'''. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 17:18, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

:::::Alex. Listen man, I don't support Delabonte by any means. If I were in your position, then i'd be pissed off too. But speaking as an onlooker of this argument you have gotten yourself into: If Chris has taught us anything then it's to not feed the trolls. With that in mind, stop talking. Stop talking right now, move to a new account to escape the trolling, and spend the rest of your online days lurking quietly and not getting involved in PVCC related arguments. Seriously, you don't wanna fight these guys. You will lose. Remember who owns this site. I'm just sayin' --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:23, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::If I had any logical place to QFT, be damn sure that I would. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 17:33, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Any place to what now? Sorry, i'm not up on my internet speak lately. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:36, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Eh, sorry. Quote for truth. Common on forums when someone agrees with another to such an extent that they can't think of a way to put it better themselves. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 17:38, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh. Thank you. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:39, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

I go for all or nothing. In this case, I've got "very little" - no job, a bad reputation here, but at least the knowledge of Chris. "All" would be being a respected member of the PVCC. "Nothing" would be a life ruined by being trolled.

As I hold out, am I not demonstrating my nerves of steel? --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 17:43, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:Knowledge of Chris is easily accessible and so not worth two shits. You're still trying for pity, which is only going to be met with "Fuck you" round these parts. Let me be the first. Fuck you. Also, at this rate, even if you skip this account and start fresh, your petty attitude and general lack of merit means you can never be respected by PVCC. Lern2internet, then come back in a few months once you get your shit sorted out. Final point: "nerves of steel" got a laugh out of me. You're putting up with a few people on the internet. That isn't hard. You won't even eat a fruit for fuck's sake. Drop the "nerves of steel" shit and start trying to find something you actually DO have. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 17:51, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::You heard me the first time when I said I have nothing. The rotten school system taught me nothing. The more I put up with this, the more I sympathize with Chris. In fact, I might have to find a former friend of mine to Ian Brandon Anderson and take his identity just so I have something. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 18:41, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Alex. Your doing it wrong. This is not the best course of action. I tried saying it nicely and tried to give you some good advice. Let me now try putting it another way:

:::Being a whiney bitch does not get you respect. Shut the fuck up before you dig yourself in any deeper. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:07, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Holding out gives you "nerves of steel"? That's hilarious. You are too scared to eat a fruit. '''Coward'''. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 21:23, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

What can I do, after shutting up and admitting defeat? I can't exactly get a life yet, since as I said, I'm unhireable, and I have two more dreadful years of school left. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 21:46, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:Oh no! You have to go to school! What kind of dirty trolls made you do that?! It's good to see that you're blaming them for the problems in your life, [[100_2178.MOV|just like Chris]]. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 22:07, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::I'm not blaming the trolls for making me go to school. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 22:18, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::: Oh, don't be such a slow-in-the-mind. In a phrase with two potential subjects, the thing smart people do is choose the one that makes sense. Might be a bit of a stretch, when one factors in the fact you have a fear of FRUIT, but still, I expected more. 0/10 try harder. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 22:27, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

seriously, you have shown 0 reasons why you deserve a pvcc account. ZERO. you're never getting an account. ever. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 22:22, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

SHUT UP ALEX! JESUS CHRIST! Alex, I had more sympathy for you when you were just being trolled for being a dumbass. Stop being such a self absorbed little bitch and GTFO! Take my advice and just adopt a new name. I don't give a shit about how horrible your real life is! No-one does! This is the internet! You can sort out any real life shit on you own time. Here though, you actually have a chance to save your reputation by starting a new identity and just never letting anyone know who you are. Your certainly not ever getting respected this way, and Clyde just told you that you have 0 chance of getting into PVCC now. So leave! DO IT FAGGOT! --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 22:31, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Having been dox'd, they'd probably remember my IP address. I will never be able to escape this identity. It's too late for me to turn back. It is my life mission to get into the PVCC and become a respected member.

I don't care if I never get china, I don't care if I have to live on the monthly tugboat.

I'm probably irredeemable at this point. It would take a sex change for me to be able to in good conscience eat that apple. You've pushed me to the point where I start bleeding Honest Content. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 22:45, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

OH DEAR LORD!!!!! Now I know what the White Knights go through when they first realise that Chris can't be helped. This is it! This torturous feeling I get trying to get through to you! A feeling of my very soul being chained down and laughed at as I try to fight against an unmoving brick wall! It's the most horrific thing I have ever felt! '''WHAT ARE YOU?!?!?!?!?!?!''' --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 22:52, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:Having trolled people quite a lot (it's what motivated me to come here, and I still do it regularly) I can tell you that this is about at the stage where he has the "brilliant" and "original" idea where he is backed into a corner so he pretends he was actually trolling us the whole time. He's using Chris terminology to try to lighten the mood. Troll victory GET... Except this time this isn't trolling. Oh, and he's planning to deny this comment. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 22:56, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::Oh, and check his page. He's an emo now too. Figures. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 22:59, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

What am I? Possibly the next Chris. After all, the same dysfunctional school system, Chesterfield County Public Schools, produced the both of us. Anyone who went to school there and turned out normal probably had some kind of deity, good or evil, on their side to give them the brainpower and willpower. I, unfortunately, am an atheist, giving me no resistance against the defective education.

I have seen my purpose, and it is to be a lolcow. Trolls, move your home base from Charlottesville to Richmond. It's the lolcow capital of the world now.

Had you not launched the attack on RuleCWC, this would have never happened. But, had you seen through me when I listed my similarities to Chris on the original version of my user page, you would have found that out sooner. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 23:09, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

:Would you please just shut up and start slitting your wrists already? I've already given you some very good advice. And don't give me that shit about IP tracking. People have beter things to do than hunt you down. Just get a different account and don't start any more shit and your safe. Why is this so hard to comprehend? This would be over already if you didn't keep whining about it. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 23:13, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:If I had to choose between a stereotypical emo useless piece of shit and this guy, the stereotypical emo would win. That places 16Bit on par with furries on my Scale of Respect. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 23:15, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::Funny you should say that. I am a former furry. To be more precise, I was along the lines of Alix Henroil, only with Sally instead of Sonic as the target of my affections. Emphasis on former. Even I don't like furries anymore. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 23:18, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Wow, there really ISN'T anything good about you. Why the fuck is an emo furfag on a troll site to begin with? [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 23:27, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Emo/former furfag, thank you. I ditched the latter to become the former. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 23:32, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Once a fag, always a fag. You cannot grow out of a sickness. Both are attention whore wastes of space, so I always figured it was more of a package deal. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 23:39, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to pop over to /cwc/ for a moment to consult the anons about the best COA. Hold down the fort here for me, would you? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 23:28, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:Can do. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 23:31, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::Waiting for a response now. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 23:45, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

I got some replies. [http://legi0n.789chan.org/cwc/res/48074.html See here] --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:04, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
:Eh, they have a point. I guess we could just wait until he bawwws and then get someone to deliver the b&hammer. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 00:14, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

::I suppose, but as I said in the thread, I don't think you can be banned just for being a whiney emo furfag attention whore. Unless we have any rouge Jerkops out there who might be willing to help? Nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:19, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Remember, I was a decent editor until I cracked. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 00:22, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
*Looking over your edits, you were a shit editor. This makes sense since you don't have access to the PVCC to learn all of the current troll goings on. Oh well, given what a huge coward you are, and that you will never join PVCC as a result, I guess you will always be a shit editor.[[User:Raticus|Raticus]] 20:12, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Shut up. You have lost your right to free speech. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:24, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Alright then. Anon have spoken. They say to just ban the fucker. I doubt I can get him banned, but it's worth a shot. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:38, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

I've asked Clyde to get rid of him. Awaiting response once more. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 01:06, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Listen, I got to go to sleep now. It's about 3AM where I am right now, and i'm getting tired. I'll be back in about 9 hours for further insulting of Alex or celebrations, depending on whether or not he is banned by then. 'Night --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 01:13, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

With regard to his new shit: So basically you're saying that men who eat fruit turn into women...? Well, that certainly explains the rampant epidemic of trannies the world has been so worked up about... wait...
Also, asians aren't necessarily incest, so I dunno what the fuck that's about. You never even finished that sentence. Apple products you count as exceptions because it's convenient. It just shows how lazy you are that you can't even follow your own rules. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 17:32, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
*Copy-paste that onto his talk page. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:54, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
**Crap wording. Reworded on my user page. Fruit doesn't make all men fruits, it's only me who suffers this irrational belief. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 20:39, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
***I am literally crying right now at the thought you could still be alive with how fucked up you are. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:53, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

I feel the same way about you Edward. Stop famewhoring on my page. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 16:10, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:If anyone's "famewhoring", it's you, Delabonte. You made this section so you could rant at a user for attention. If other people join in, then yeah, they get attention out of it, too. However, this is still your attention whoring plan, not his. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 16:15, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Is there anyone on this bloody CWCki these days not afflicted with Autism? --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 16:24, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:Most users actually. Believe me, i'm a minority here. I don't see what your problem is with autistics though. Autism is not an instant retard formula, despite what Chris would lead you to believe. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

All you guys are fucking pathetic. So long, faggots
:Sign your posts, god damn. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 22:35, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:That. Also, good riddance. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 00:19, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::All in all I think things are turning out rather well today. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 02:55, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

== 'Fuckwit Alert' ==

If I may ask what the hell this is all about; is this about posting on Jenkins talk page? Really, I didn't do anything. Champ's specific instructions were "do not fuck with this user", not "absolutely no communication whatsoever." All I did was point him to the userbox list. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 04:24, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

*His instructions were clear. Stay away from that page. Do not get in the way. Also, multiple userboxes that have nothing to do with Chris or the CWCki are for Autistics and faggots. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 04:27, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
**If that's true, then why make one? [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 04:28, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Because it's a language you morons understand. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 04:30, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
*While he should have been able to infer Champ's meaning, shouldn't you have just given him a warning, since, you know, people sometimes interpret meanings with even the slightest degree of vagueness differently than intended? [[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 10:54, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
*Coming soon- "Corporate Watchdog: The story of one Delabonte's struggle against anything that DARES to go one millimeter off of topic." Rated R for Extreme Dramedy. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 05:55, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

*If I may ask, what did I do to get the userbox? Is it just for being autistic or have you got an actual reason? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 08:41, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
**No you may not ask. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 09:10, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
***What the fuck is your problem? I haven't done shit to Jenkins and I haven't gotten involved in PVCC's plans. This is just being a dick for the sake of being a dick. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 10:00, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
****Edward, you're on the CWCki. Everyone is a dick. Everyone. Especially the mods. It seems to be part of the package. And Delabonte, while I know this is the CWCki, it isn't outside the realms of reasonable expectations to know why you've gotten into some shit. Although honestly, I'm half expecting to get the template for trying to be the voice of reason now... [[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 10:54, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
*****Probably. As far as I know I haven't done anything other than saying I don't like PVCC. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 11:05, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

== Harassing other users ==

Dude, I've been reading a lot of complaints about you harassing other users and I do see it. Yes, some people here are fuckwits. Like I said, there's plenty of fuckwits on any wiki. But please, try and be a tad more tactful. Instead of calling people a fucking moron and telling them they're under watch, just be more tactful and point out how they're wrong or they should think about what they said and how wrong it sounds. I need people to edit this wiki without fear of reprisal from some source, as we're not exactly in a position to turn people away. If they're doing really stupid stuff, feel free to tell me and I can handle it in a way that everyone wins.

You've contributed a lot to the CWCki, Delabonte and I really don't want to have to ban you for your behavior. I know that Cogs likes the way that you act but I'm starting not to. If you'd like to discuss this further, you're welcome to contact me on AIM or we can get in IRC.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:15, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

== Chris n Weed ==
Why did you delete my section on weed? Its not speculative shit that he believes that weed is a stronger version of cigarettes, just look Inos,Sean, and his convos with clyde.--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 20:23, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
:Chris and Money <--- Chris actually uses money... poorly. Chris and English <--- Chris uses the English language... poorly. Chris and Sex <--- Chris is on an active hunt for sexual intercourse... also poorly. See what I'm getting at here? A few references do not a topic make. Christ... this "Chris and..." thing is getting out of hand. Next we'll have "Chris and possible references to secondary Star Wars characters." --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 23:47, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
:What Fuckinstupid said. Also, just because you have an interest in an illegal activity and Chris has mentioned once or twice it in the past doesn't entitle it to a section either. Until Chris starts smoking pot (never) or he goes on a tirade about marijuana (without it being brought up by someone else, which it almost always has in the past) it doesn't get a section. It's asking Chris "Hey Chris, what do you think of Alfa Romeos?" and then starting an Alfa Romeo section. It just doesn't belong.--[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 05:58, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Except that he has alluded to marijuana multiple times, look at Inos, offering Sonichu a hit from his "dige" apparently what chris thinks is a slang term for a joint. Sean, who showed up to court baked as fuck, ordering "pot stickers". Need i add moar?--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 03:09, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
:That's like three very minor occurrences, not nearly enough to create an article about it. If we create an article on Chris and Marijuana we may as well make one on Chris and Elephants. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 04:24, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

==Curses==
Uhhh... why? --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 07:45, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
*It was a joke. I know humour isn't a strong point with you Eastern Europeans. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 08:00, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
:*Sorry, sometimes it's hard to tell if you are being funny or a secretive badass. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 09:04, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

CWCki:Policy

2010-07-22T00:31:18Z

ThatMan: /* Userboxes */

__NEWSECTIONLINK__
For discussion of CWCki policy and rules.

== Fan Works policy ==

right now there aren't really any rules regards what can and cannot go in the fan namespace. this is because i trusted users to judge for themselves whether or not their work belonged on the cwcki. so, let's get its purpose straight: fan works was meant to be PVCC's troll productions subforum, but public. it is not, however, a mirror site incase deviantart goes down. i feel that some individuals are forgetting that this is a wiki about CWC. now, it's quite tricky to say what can and cannot be hosted here. there are very few examples of things being uploaded that are completely unrelated to chris or sonichu. however, i will try my best to clarify what is appropriate.

'''Examples of good fanworks:'''
* A drawing of CWC saying DYKES DYKES CHINA being placed into the "CWC's Second Message" article
* An "artist's depiction" of something we have no pictures of but how it may have looked, i.e. Chris in the mall with his attraction sign, Chris using his "red string of fate", Chris's IRL confrontation with Mary Lee Walsh, [[Fapcup]], etc
* Comics what are actually funny

'''Examples of bad fanworks:'''
* A Sonichu comic depicting how you think Sonichu should have been
* Shitty recolored Sonichu and Rosechu "original characters"
* Your shitty fursona with a Sonichu tail shoved up its ass

to summarise, i think the distinction lies in whether or not it is actually related to ''chris''. there are lots of things related to sonichu, many of which include chris, but are actually disconnected from chris's antics themselves. i don't think these are appropriate for this wiki, and i see their numbers increasing(although i would like to refrain from naming names).

please discuss any changes or clarifications that you wish made, however i would like to implement these new rules by the end of the week. if a user feels their own uploads were, in light of these policy changes, in error then they can remove them now to save the jerkops the trouble of removing them later.

PEACE, AND HAVE A GOOD DAY --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 21:59, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity, could we see just what works are and are not on the chopping block? Just so we can see where we stand on this. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 02:54, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
* i guess it might be useful to have a template for that --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 09:26, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

No. When the purge is complete you will know exactly where you stand. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 03:07, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Um, does one need any kind of admin status to delete files? I'm trying to figure this out. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 03:32, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

===Just who decides what's worthy?===
I can get behind the fact that you want this wiki to be about Chris, with his Sonichu works simply being an extension of him. What bothers me is how all this hate coming from users complaining about fan works they simply don't care for. If fan works are removed all together from here, I'd be alright with that. But when someone said "all Sonichu-related works need to go, except the ones I like!" it seems more like favoritism rather than objective policy. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 00:13, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, though I myself am hardly unbiased. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|manwithoutabody]] 00:28, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it's almost like this wiki is run by trolls who cae not for your feelings.--[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 01:47, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Just because we troll Chris doesn't mean we can't deal with each other in a civilized manner. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|manwithoutabody]] 02:42, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

You don't troll shit, spud. [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 02:44, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Can anything be done on this site without creating a shitstorm? This isn't some crusade against drawfags, and it shouldn't be painted as such by EITHER side. The site is about Chris, and the large amount of coverage on his creations is only because they made up such a large part of his life. The CWCki isn't about Sonichu, it's about Chris. Maybe some exceptions can be made, but for now fanworks not directly about Chris need to go. I myself enjoy many, especially Fear and Loathing in CWCville, but unless it is used to successfully troll Chris, it doesn't belong here.
Thing is, we need a peaceful resolution to this. Shit with faggot users and /cwc/ is bad enough, we don't need this to blow up. Maybe exceptional fanworks can be allowed; if not, they can be hosted on DA, or perhaps a site devoted to Sonichu. The artists and fans need to remember that this isn't an attack against their work, it's just policy. Users who want to be active in the execution of this policy need to not be dicks about it, and be responsible about it. It's not "deleting shit one doesn't like," it's removing unnecessary images and articles. --[[User:Schuzrum-dias|Schuzrum Dias]] 02:58, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:Well, like I've said before, I will print out every page, bind it, and mail it to him when I'm finished. Which should be in two weeks or so. If my works are deleted before then, I'm not going to worry too much. In fact, it wouldn't bother me much at all if the entire fan section was removed and all fan art was deleted. I'm just a little put off from the vitriol a lot of the critics are spewing. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 03:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
::You think he's going to read it, that's cute. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 03:36, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Maybe, maybe not, what's the harm in trying? The most it'll cost me is a few bucks in postage. Well, that and the markers. Now I understand why he textwalls so much, those things dry out quick! :P --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 03:49, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

That makes sense. I could totally get on board starting a new site just to host these things. If we do so, though, we need clearly-defined criteria as to what gets to stay. Limiting ourselves to stuff Chris has seen would be fair, but it would need to be absolutely enforced. Which is to say, we couldn't have a page on ''Chris Gets Laid'', excellent though it is, unless he himself responded to it in some way. -[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 03:31, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

You could do that. That's entirely acceptable, as it focuses on Chris and its activities. What you couldn't do is a story about a Sonichu recolor having some dumb adventure while Chris gets laid as a side-story. [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 03:37, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Well by those rules, we'd have to delete the page on ''Sonichu Is Dead'', because Chris barely appears in it. We need a single, objective policy for what gets to stay and what doesn't, regardless of quality. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 11:40, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree that there has to be some kind of objective criteria, not just what largely seems to be "Your fic/comic is bad, and you should feel bad, ur a furfag lawl." If you want to cut fics because the Fan section is getting out of hand, fine. Just come up with a standard that makes sense and enforce it. If the "How you think Sonichu should have been" rule is enforced, then the entire fan section will be pretty much gutted. If we go with the "About Chris not Sonichu", well pretty much every fic has Chris' Mary Sue Avatar Combined with his real self on there, so where's the line? Is it IRL Chris, or Comic Chris? [[User:Mellowyellowsalvation|Mellowyellowsalvation]] 16:41, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
*That's why I think limiting ourselves to stuff to which Chris has responded makes the most sense. He either did, or he didn't, and there are no shades of grey. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 02:05, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

*As I've said elsewhere, I personally think the Fan Works index is more of a hassle than it's worth and we should get rid of it. Clyde has suggested a separate wiki and I think that might be the best solution. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:47, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
** I would agree that a second site for fan works would probably be the best course of action. However, I think we should consider keeping notable fanworks (that is, those that Chris has responded to) here on the CWCki. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 17:16, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
***This site is for things that have trolled Chris, so we should absolutely keep them. However, I notice that lots of things that don't fit those guidelines have survived the purge. Why? --[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 15:22, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

=== Re:Examples of bad fanworks ===

Most of the fan works don't seem to fall in any of those categories. Is there something else that's a problem?--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 00:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
*No, a lot of the admins are just fickle, want things they specifically don't like deleted no matter if there was a good reason or not, and don't seem to realize that trolls don't necessarily have to be asses to anyone and everyone. [[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 12:35, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
* Right. It's that, it has nothing to do with an overwhelming majority of it being some sick fucks fantasy and has virtually or literally nothing to do with Chris. They're just angry, angry DAMN DIRTY SLANDEROUS TROLLS. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 03:12, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

* To avoid altercations like this, I would delete the index entirely. Simply put, there are other, far more suitable venues to put this, so you won't ever have to lapse into offended rage, or conversely, argue with trolls sticking their 'n***** noses' in your business. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 20:31, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

=== Dumb suggestion ===

Why couldn't we just grandfather stuff in? --[[User:GandWuser|GandWuser]] 12:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

=== my suggestion ===

wipe everything and start a new wiki because i'm cutting down everything that's eating up resources. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 16:31, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
*people should pay attention to me more. also pay attention to me. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 16:48, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I like this idea. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 17:00, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

i've been considering moving to a new version of mediawiki, but might as well wait for 1.16 to reach stable. this should go on technical though i guess --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 19:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

===Guys===
The admins are at liberty to delete whatever the fuck they don't like. It just so happens they don't like torture porn involving Sonees and Roseys and comics intended to piss Chris off a la Asperchu. I know Asperchu gave you all hope for your fan comics and getting into the annals of troll history, but Asperchu happened because until then no one had attempted anything like it. The way to get into troll history is not to follow in the footsteps of more famous trolls, but to find areas of Chris's psyche no one has prodded before and poke the shit out of them until you get an angry YouTube video. If you really really REALLY still want your fics visible on the internet, make your own Sonichu site for fanworks or join a preexisting one, such as [http://caferosechu.110mb.com/index.html Cafe Rosechu] (which is run by the girl who made Capering Berries). ... As for the underage guro, fucking stop. That's disgusting. --[[User:James Lamp-Eye|James Lamp-Eye]] 22:09, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
* What he said. --[[User:Inos|Inos]] 07:58, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

==Harassment and NPOV==

Recent events have brought up these issues, so let's address them.

First, let's do our best to aim for some semblance of [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|NPOV]]. Things considered by us to be good humored may not be taken that way by others. So yeah, try not to insult other sites, users, etc.

Harassment - yes, there are fuckwits on this wiki. There's fuckwits on any wiki. But don't point it out to them. People need to be able to edit without fear of harassment from others for their users. It's one thing to tell someone they're wrong or being just stupid, it's another to tell them they're now under watch by a group of people with various intents. I really can't ago against Cogs, as she has different ideas how to run the CWCki than I do, and she is the site owner, but please don't harass other users. If they're stupid, just point it out and explain calmly why but telling them they're fuckwits is no way to do it. Srsly, I expect a bit more from you people. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:16, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I concur with the statement about NPOV. When i edit articles that's usually what I'm going for. The CWCville article was ridiculous and full of shit that just wasn't the case, as are a great many articles. People making jokes and idle speculation at the expense of reality.

So kids, keep the memes out, and if a facet of Chris' mind or life is an unknown leave it that way instead of inserting your own idle speculation. We're here to document the real CWC (and related fictions about CWC created by the real CWC), not to create our own CWC. [[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]] 00:15, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

So, essentially, kill them gently? --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 20:28, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

*I've been thinking that maybe the best solution at this point would be to prohibit any discussion of matters unrelated to Chris and the CWCki, even on your own user page. Thus, many of the members who had been harassed or whatever in the past would probably have never been targeted in the first place. Granted, I would prefer if we didn't have to limit the users right to say what they want, and it would certainly be a pain in the ass to enforce,but could potentially prevent most if not all of the harassment issues. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 21:47, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
:*This wouldn't be an entirely bad idea, given that I know Wikipedia has basic rules about user pages, namely it's used to discuss one's contributions to Wikipedia and nothing more. Good thinking.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:18, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
*It might also help if suggesting that we resolve a bureaucratic issue without resulting to namecalling [[User_talk:DrShoggoth|didn't result in vague threats.]] --[[User:Star Platinum|Star Platinum]] 22:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
**agreed. I'm not exactly the biggest contributor on here, but even I've seen Delabonte threatening others for asking him to be a bit less abrasive in his messages, asking why exactly they were in trouble for something, or even not sharing the same opinion as him. Why does this guy get away with it? Also, I don't care if he's "respected by Cogs" as has been said, that doesn't mean he should be allowed to abuse his position, spam angry templates on other people's accounts just because he doesn't like them, and generally treat everyone else like shit. [[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 00:03, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
::*I agree on this policy. This kind of harassment brings down CWCki's appearance in a whole. It makes us look less like a reputable source on an autistic manchild and more like a restricted community of threatening rep destruction and overenforced rules. There is no need to attack innocents just for casual talk or for living certain lifestyles, it's just plain wrong in general. Delabonte is just a person who feels privileged and like he needs to point out things about people and act like he needs to be a Jr. Mod of sorts. To be frank, this is annoying and just rude. I'm a member of many places, but never once have I done anything like go out and go "OH NO THAT'S NOT FOLLOWING '''MY''' RULES TEMPLATE ''TEMPLATE'' ''' ''TEMPLATE'' '''!" and not a lot of people here have before. It's inappropriate, immature and quite low IQed. So, in conclusion, and tl;dr: Agree with idea, down with empty threated non-mod steam-filled members. --[[User:Eniggy|Sen. John Eniggy, finishing opening statements for case on the Congressional floor]] 04:48, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
:::* Not to be a jackass or anything, but try and keep in mind where you are. This is a website dedicated to trolling an autistic manchild. Many of the people here are involved with other trolling operations and such. Lots of trolls like to target furrys. By ousting yourself as a furry here you're essentially making yourself a black man at a Ku Klux Klan rally. Not saying that all of this harassment should have occurred, but it certainly wasn't unforeseeable to the victims. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 05:36, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
::::*ThatMan has nailed why Delabonte and others feel warranted in acting like they do and this is pretty much the justification for some of Cog's and Clyde's actions here. Remember, this is a critical site of Chris, essentially out to troll him, and so you're not going to be attracting the same sort of people to edit as say, Wikipedia. I can talk to Delabonte about shit.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:09, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
::::* Actually, I'm not a furry (they scare me, to be quite honest- I'd sooner run through traffic and fling myself off a highway bridge than be one) but the point here, as shown by your post is, is about the exploits of Chris and the trolls who have trolled him, not a place for people to use trolling to vent their anger upon here. I don't support weeabooism, but I also don't support using CWCki as a stress ball. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 05:47, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Also, Chris is a particularly bad furry, so bashing them is arguably part of our mission. We shouldn't get carried away, but I don't think anybody would object to the occasional snippy comment. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 21:43, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

== User pages for banned users ==

Anyone opposed to not having user pages for banned users? Seems to be taking up space and seems sorta silly. I once said something along the lines of "To serve an example" or something but now I think it's just a waste of space. Anyone opposed to deleting user pages of permanently banned user? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:51, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
:No objections here. --[[User:James Lamp-Eye|James Lamp-Eye]] 23:59, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
:Depends on the user. I see no problem in deleting some of IBAGeneva's accounts, but we should keep a couple of examples (maybe between five and ten?).--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] forgot to sign
:I would agree that we should just delete their pages so as to not waste space, but is there any way we could possibly mark that they were banned when their signature is shown on talk pages and stuff like that? I just feel like this would help prevent any potential confusion between users who are banned and users who don't have user pages. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 01:00, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:*A short page about wby they were banned sounds good. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:25, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
::That actually gives me a better idea, maybe their could be a page of banned users, with notes showing the reason for why they were banned. When a user is banned, their userpage could just be a redirect to this page.--[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 05:20, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:::fuck what I was about to say, the best balance between saving space and giving good examples of what not to do would probably be to do what ThatMan suggested. ThatMan, you have done a great service for the operation of the CWCki. I salute you, good sir. [[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 05:22, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
*Well that settles it. People, you have 24 hours to make a page (in the CWCki namespace) with a list of banned users and their rationale. In 24 hours, I will delete all the banned user userpages.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:38, 16 July 2010 (UTC)--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:38, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:*I'll do what I can. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 11:26, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:*My lord, it is [[CWCki:Banned_Users|done.]] --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 12:28, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== Userboxes ==

I think the usage of them is getting a bit out of control.

As I see it:
# unless you have a very convincing reason why a userbox should be on the main namespace, it really should be on a user's subpage.
# we get rid of some of the categories of of userboxes - it's handy to know which CWCki users are also PVCC members, it's not quite as important to know which CWCki users practice martial arts.

Thoughts? Any justifications why we should keep userboxes as they are? Personally I'm tempted to say that we should make user boxes as part of one's user subpage or at least remove the categories for most of these.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:17, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
:I think they need to be culled. Specifically, the ones that don't have anything to do with Chris.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 02:37, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
::Either way is fine. They're not exactly a big part of the site. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:18, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
:Sorry about that. I'll keep my own userbox whoring under control. Just thought I was [[fail|being clever]] at making more Chris jokes. (Keep in mind that I didn't add all those userboxes indicating race/gender/and religion, though I did modify the one for my own race.
:But I think the "Armchair psychologist" could be kept for some practical use, like a <s>barnstar</s> award for those who have contributed much analysis of Chris's mindset. --[[User:SeventhBase|SeventhBase]] 16:57, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
:I think Nationality might be useful, if only to establish about what time said user would be active. But stuff like cats, or naive, etc. have no practical use. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 20:54, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
:: Why not just have time zone stamps then? Honestly I've thought that these userboxes were stupid for a while, glad to see I'm not alone in that. Honestly only a select few of them really seem necessary. Other than ones related to staff positions held by certain members and perhaps something useful such as what Bill Lumberg brought up, none of them really serve any meaningful purpose. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 00:31, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

CWCki:Policy

2010-07-16T05:20:23Z

ThatMan: /* User pages for banned users */

__NEWSECTIONLINK__
For discussion of CWCki policy and rules.

== Fan Works policy ==

right now there aren't really any rules regards what can and cannot go in the fan namespace. this is because i trusted users to judge for themselves whether or not their work belonged on the cwcki. so, let's get its purpose straight: fan works was meant to be PVCC's troll productions subforum, but public. it is not, however, a mirror site incase deviantart goes down. i feel that some individuals are forgetting that this is a wiki about CWC. now, it's quite tricky to say what can and cannot be hosted here. there are very few examples of things being uploaded that are completely unrelated to chris or sonichu. however, i will try my best to clarify what is appropriate.

'''Examples of good fanworks:'''
* A drawing of CWC saying DYKES DYKES CHINA being placed into the "CWC's Second Message" article
* An "artist's depiction" of something we have no pictures of but how it may have looked, i.e. Chris in the mall with his attraction sign, Chris using his "red string of fate", Chris's IRL confrontation with Mary Lee Walsh, [[Fapcup]], etc
* Comics what are actually funny

'''Examples of bad fanworks:'''
* A Sonichu comic depicting how you think Sonichu should have been
* Shitty recolored Sonichu and Rosechu "original characters"
* Your shitty fursona with a Sonichu tail shoved up its ass

to summarise, i think the distinction lies in whether or not it is actually related to ''chris''. there are lots of things related to sonichu, many of which include chris, but are actually disconnected from chris's antics themselves. i don't think these are appropriate for this wiki, and i see their numbers increasing(although i would like to refrain from naming names).

please discuss any changes or clarifications that you wish made, however i would like to implement these new rules by the end of the week. if a user feels their own uploads were, in light of these policy changes, in error then they can remove them now to save the jerkops the trouble of removing them later.

PEACE, AND HAVE A GOOD DAY --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 21:59, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity, could we see just what works are and are not on the chopping block? Just so we can see where we stand on this. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 02:54, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
* i guess it might be useful to have a template for that --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 09:26, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

No. When the purge is complete you will know exactly where you stand. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 03:07, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Um, does one need any kind of admin status to delete files? I'm trying to figure this out. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 03:32, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

===Just who decides what's worthy?===
I can get behind the fact that you want this wiki to be about Chris, with his Sonichu works simply being an extension of him. What bothers me is how all this hate coming from users complaining about fan works they simply don't care for. If fan works are removed all together from here, I'd be alright with that. But when someone said "all Sonichu-related works need to go, except the ones I like!" it seems more like favoritism rather than objective policy. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 00:13, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, though I myself am hardly unbiased. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|manwithoutabody]] 00:28, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it's almost like this wiki is run by trolls who cae not for your feelings.--[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 01:47, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Just because we troll Chris doesn't mean we can't deal with each other in a civilized manner. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|manwithoutabody]] 02:42, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

You don't troll shit, spud. [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 02:44, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Can anything be done on this site without creating a shitstorm? This isn't some crusade against drawfags, and it shouldn't be painted as such by EITHER side. The site is about Chris, and the large amount of coverage on his creations is only because they made up such a large part of his life. The CWCki isn't about Sonichu, it's about Chris. Maybe some exceptions can be made, but for now fanworks not directly about Chris need to go. I myself enjoy many, especially Fear and Loathing in CWCville, but unless it is used to successfully troll Chris, it doesn't belong here.
Thing is, we need a peaceful resolution to this. Shit with faggot users and /cwc/ is bad enough, we don't need this to blow up. Maybe exceptional fanworks can be allowed; if not, they can be hosted on DA, or perhaps a site devoted to Sonichu. The artists and fans need to remember that this isn't an attack against their work, it's just policy. Users who want to be active in the execution of this policy need to not be dicks about it, and be responsible about it. It's not "deleting shit one doesn't like," it's removing unnecessary images and articles. --[[User:Schuzrum-dias|Schuzrum Dias]] 02:58, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:Well, like I've said before, I will print out every page, bind it, and mail it to him when I'm finished. Which should be in two weeks or so. If my works are deleted before then, I'm not going to worry too much. In fact, it wouldn't bother me much at all if the entire fan section was removed and all fan art was deleted. I'm just a little put off from the vitriol a lot of the critics are spewing. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 03:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
::You think he's going to read it, that's cute. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 03:36, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Maybe, maybe not, what's the harm in trying? The most it'll cost me is a few bucks in postage. Well, that and the markers. Now I understand why he textwalls so much, those things dry out quick! :P --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 03:49, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

That makes sense. I could totally get on board starting a new site just to host these things. If we do so, though, we need clearly-defined criteria as to what gets to stay. Limiting ourselves to stuff Chris has seen would be fair, but it would need to be absolutely enforced. Which is to say, we couldn't have a page on ''Chris Gets Laid'', excellent though it is, unless he himself responded to it in some way. -[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 03:31, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

You could do that. That's entirely acceptable, as it focuses on Chris and its activities. What you couldn't do is a story about a Sonichu recolor having some dumb adventure while Chris gets laid as a side-story. [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 03:37, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Well by those rules, we'd have to delete the page on ''Sonichu Is Dead'', because Chris barely appears in it. We need a single, objective policy for what gets to stay and what doesn't, regardless of quality. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 11:40, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree that there has to be some kind of objective criteria, not just what largely seems to be "Your fic/comic is bad, and you should feel bad, ur a furfag lawl." If you want to cut fics because the Fan section is getting out of hand, fine. Just come up with a standard that makes sense and enforce it. If the "How you think Sonichu should have been" rule is enforced, then the entire fan section will be pretty much gutted. If we go with the "About Chris not Sonichu", well pretty much every fic has Chris' Mary Sue Avatar Combined with his real self on there, so where's the line? Is it IRL Chris, or Comic Chris? [[User:Mellowyellowsalvation|Mellowyellowsalvation]] 16:41, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
*That's why I think limiting ourselves to stuff to which Chris has responded makes the most sense. He either did, or he didn't, and there are no shades of grey. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 02:05, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

*As I've said elsewhere, I personally think the Fan Works index is more of a hassle than it's worth and we should get rid of it. Clyde has suggested a separate wiki and I think that might be the best solution. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:47, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
** I would agree that a second site for fan works would probably be the best course of action. However, I think we should consider keeping notable fanworks (that is, those that Chris has responded to) here on the CWCki. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 17:16, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

=== Re:Examples of bad fanworks ===

Most of the fan works don't seem to fall in any of those categories. Is there something else that's a problem?--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 00:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
*No, a lot of the admins are just fickle, want things they specifically don't like deleted no matter if there was a good reason or not, and don't seem to realize that trolls don't necessarily have to be asses to anyone and everyone. [[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 12:35, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
* Right. It's that, it has nothing to do with an overwhelming majority of it being some sick fucks fantasy and has virtually or literally nothing to do with Chris. They're just angry, angry DAMN DIRTY SLANDEROUS TROLLS. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 03:12, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

* To avoid altercations like this, I would delete the index entirely. Simply put, there are other, far more suitable venues to put this, so you won't ever have to lapse into offended rage, or conversely, argue with trolls sticking their 'n***** noses' in your business. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 20:31, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

=== Dumb suggestion ===

Why couldn't we just grandfather stuff in? --[[User:GandWuser|GandWuser]] 12:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

=== my suggestion ===

wipe everything and start a new wiki because i'm cutting down everything that's eating up resources. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 16:31, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
*people should pay attention to me more. also pay attention to me. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 16:48, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I like this idea. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 17:00, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

i've been considering moving to a new version of mediawiki, but might as well wait for 1.16 to reach stable. this should go on technical though i guess --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 19:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

==Harassment and NPOV==

Recent events have brought up these issues, so let's address them.

First, let's do our best to aim for some semblance of [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|NPOV]]. Things considered by us to be good humored may not be taken that way by others. So yeah, try not to insult other sites, users, etc.

Harassment - yes, there are fuckwits on this wiki. There's fuckwits on any wiki. But don't point it out to them. People need to be able to edit without fear of harassment from others for their users. It's one thing to tell someone they're wrong or being just stupid, it's another to tell them they're now under watch by a group of people with various intents. I really can't ago against Cogs, as she has different ideas how to run the CWCki than I do, and she is the site owner, but please don't harass other users. If they're stupid, just point it out and explain calmly why but telling them they're fuckwits is no way to do it. Srsly, I expect a bit more from you people. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:16, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I concur with the statement about NPOV. When i edit articles that's usually what I'm going for. The CWCville article was ridiculous and full of shit that just wasn't the case, as are a great many articles. People making jokes and idle speculation at the expense of reality.

So kids, keep the memes out, and if a facet of Chris' mind or life is an unknown leave it that way instead of inserting your own idle speculation. We're here to document the real CWC (and related fictions about CWC created by the real CWC), not to create our own CWC. [[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]] 00:15, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

So, essentially, kill them gently? --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 20:28, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

*I've been thinking that maybe the best solution at this point would be to prohibit any discussion of matters unrelated to Chris and the CWCki, even on your own user page. Thus, many of the members who had been harassed or whatever in the past would probably have never been targeted in the first place. Granted, I would prefer if we didn't have to limit the users right to say what they want, and it would certainly be a pain in the ass to enforce,but could potentially prevent most if not all of the harassment issues. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 21:47, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
:*This wouldn't be an entirely bad idea, given that I know Wikipedia has basic rules about user pages, namely it's used to discuss one's contributions to Wikipedia and nothing more. Good thinking.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:18, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
*It might also help if suggesting that we resolve a bureaucratic issue without resulting to namecalling [[User_talk:DrShoggoth|didn't result in vague threats.]] --[[User:Star Platinum|Star Platinum]] 22:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
**agreed. I'm not exactly the biggest contributor on here, but even I've seen Delabonte threatening others for asking him to be a bit less abrasive in his messages, asking why exactly they were in trouble for something, or even not sharing the same opinion as him. Why does this guy get away with it? Also, I don't care if he's "respected by Cogs" as has been said, that doesn't mean he should be allowed to abuse his position, spam angry templates on other people's accounts just because he doesn't like them, and generally treat everyone else like shit. [[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 00:03, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
::*I agree on this policy. This kind of harassment brings down CWCki's appearance in a whole. It makes us look less like a reputable source on an autistic manchild and more like a restricted community of threatening rep destruction and overenforced rules. There is no need to attack innocents just for casual talk or for living certain lifestyles, it's just plain wrong in general. Delabonte is just a person who feels privileged and like he needs to point out things about people and act like he needs to be a Jr. Mod of sorts. To be frank, this is annoying and just rude. I'm a member of many places, but never once have I done anything like go out and go "OH NO THAT'S NOT FOLLOWING '''MY''' RULES TEMPLATE ''TEMPLATE'' ''' ''TEMPLATE'' '''!" and not a lot of people here have before. It's inappropriate, immature and quite low IQed. So, in conclusion, and tl;dr: Agree with idea, down with empty threated non-mod steam-filled members. --[[User:Eniggy|Sen. John Eniggy, finishing opening statements for case on the Congressional floor]] 04:48, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
:::* Not to be a jackass or anything, but try and keep in mind where you are. This is a website dedicated to trolling an autistic manchild. Many of the people here are involved with other trolling operations and such. Lots of trolls like to target furrys. By ousting yourself as a furry here you're essentially making yourself a black man at a Ku Klux Klan rally. Not saying that all of this harassment should have occurred, but it certainly wasn't unforeseeable to the victims. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 05:36, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
::::*ThatMan has nailed why Delabonte and others feel warranted in acting like they do and this is pretty much the justification for some of Cog's and Clyde's actions here. Remember, this is a critical site of Chris, essentially out to troll him, and so you're not going to be attracting the same sort of people to edit as say, Wikipedia. I can talk to Delabonte about shit.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:09, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
::::* Actually, I'm not a furry (they scare me, to be quite honest- I'd sooner run through traffic and fling myself off a highway bridge than be one) but the point here, as shown by your post is, is about the exploits of Chris and the trolls who have trolled him, not a place for people to use trolling to vent their anger upon here. I don't support weeabooism, but I also don't support using CWCki as a stress ball. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 05:47, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

== User pages for banned users ==

Anyone opposed to not having user pages for banned users? Seems to be taking up space and seems sorta silly. I once said something along the lines of "To serve an example" or something but now I think it's just a waste of space. Anyone opposed to deleting user pages of permanently banned user? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:51, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
:No objections here. --[[User:James Lamp-Eye|James Lamp-Eye]] 23:59, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
:Depends on the user. I see no problem in deleting some of IBAGeneva's accounts, but we should keep a couple of examples (maybe between five and ten?).--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] forgot to sign
:I would agree that we should just delete their pages so as to not waste space, but is there any way we could possibly mark that they were banned when their signature is shown on talk pages and stuff like that? I just feel like this would help prevent any potential confusion between users who are banned and users who don't have user pages. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 01:00, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:*A short page about wby they were banned sounds good. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:25, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
::That actually gives me a better idea, maybe their could be a page of banned users, with notes showing the reason for why they were banned. When a user is banned, their userpage could just be a redirect to this page.--[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 05:20, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

CWCki:Policy

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ThatMan: /* User pages for banned users */

__NEWSECTIONLINK__
For discussion of CWCki policy and rules.

== Fan Works policy ==

right now there aren't really any rules regards what can and cannot go in the fan namespace. this is because i trusted users to judge for themselves whether or not their work belonged on the cwcki. so, let's get its purpose straight: fan works was meant to be PVCC's troll productions subforum, but public. it is not, however, a mirror site incase deviantart goes down. i feel that some individuals are forgetting that this is a wiki about CWC. now, it's quite tricky to say what can and cannot be hosted here. there are very few examples of things being uploaded that are completely unrelated to chris or sonichu. however, i will try my best to clarify what is appropriate.

'''Examples of good fanworks:'''
* A drawing of CWC saying DYKES DYKES CHINA being placed into the "CWC's Second Message" article
* An "artist's depiction" of something we have no pictures of but how it may have looked, i.e. Chris in the mall with his attraction sign, Chris using his "red string of fate", Chris's IRL confrontation with Mary Lee Walsh, [[Fapcup]], etc
* Comics what are actually funny

'''Examples of bad fanworks:'''
* A Sonichu comic depicting how you think Sonichu should have been
* Shitty recolored Sonichu and Rosechu "original characters"
* Your shitty fursona with a Sonichu tail shoved up its ass

to summarise, i think the distinction lies in whether or not it is actually related to ''chris''. there are lots of things related to sonichu, many of which include chris, but are actually disconnected from chris's antics themselves. i don't think these are appropriate for this wiki, and i see their numbers increasing(although i would like to refrain from naming names).

please discuss any changes or clarifications that you wish made, however i would like to implement these new rules by the end of the week. if a user feels their own uploads were, in light of these policy changes, in error then they can remove them now to save the jerkops the trouble of removing them later.

PEACE, AND HAVE A GOOD DAY --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 21:59, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity, could we see just what works are and are not on the chopping block? Just so we can see where we stand on this. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 02:54, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
* i guess it might be useful to have a template for that --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 09:26, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

No. When the purge is complete you will know exactly where you stand. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 03:07, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Um, does one need any kind of admin status to delete files? I'm trying to figure this out. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 03:32, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

===Just who decides what's worthy?===
I can get behind the fact that you want this wiki to be about Chris, with his Sonichu works simply being an extension of him. What bothers me is how all this hate coming from users complaining about fan works they simply don't care for. If fan works are removed all together from here, I'd be alright with that. But when someone said "all Sonichu-related works need to go, except the ones I like!" it seems more like favoritism rather than objective policy. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 00:13, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, though I myself am hardly unbiased. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|manwithoutabody]] 00:28, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it's almost like this wiki is run by trolls who cae not for your feelings.--[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 01:47, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Just because we troll Chris doesn't mean we can't deal with each other in a civilized manner. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|manwithoutabody]] 02:42, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

You don't troll shit, spud. [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 02:44, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Can anything be done on this site without creating a shitstorm? This isn't some crusade against drawfags, and it shouldn't be painted as such by EITHER side. The site is about Chris, and the large amount of coverage on his creations is only because they made up such a large part of his life. The CWCki isn't about Sonichu, it's about Chris. Maybe some exceptions can be made, but for now fanworks not directly about Chris need to go. I myself enjoy many, especially Fear and Loathing in CWCville, but unless it is used to successfully troll Chris, it doesn't belong here.
Thing is, we need a peaceful resolution to this. Shit with faggot users and /cwc/ is bad enough, we don't need this to blow up. Maybe exceptional fanworks can be allowed; if not, they can be hosted on DA, or perhaps a site devoted to Sonichu. The artists and fans need to remember that this isn't an attack against their work, it's just policy. Users who want to be active in the execution of this policy need to not be dicks about it, and be responsible about it. It's not "deleting shit one doesn't like," it's removing unnecessary images and articles. --[[User:Schuzrum-dias|Schuzrum Dias]] 02:58, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:Well, like I've said before, I will print out every page, bind it, and mail it to him when I'm finished. Which should be in two weeks or so. If my works are deleted before then, I'm not going to worry too much. In fact, it wouldn't bother me much at all if the entire fan section was removed and all fan art was deleted. I'm just a little put off from the vitriol a lot of the critics are spewing. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 03:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
::You think he's going to read it, that's cute. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 03:36, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Maybe, maybe not, what's the harm in trying? The most it'll cost me is a few bucks in postage. Well, that and the markers. Now I understand why he textwalls so much, those things dry out quick! :P --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 03:49, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

That makes sense. I could totally get on board starting a new site just to host these things. If we do so, though, we need clearly-defined criteria as to what gets to stay. Limiting ourselves to stuff Chris has seen would be fair, but it would need to be absolutely enforced. Which is to say, we couldn't have a page on ''Chris Gets Laid'', excellent though it is, unless he himself responded to it in some way. -[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 03:31, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

You could do that. That's entirely acceptable, as it focuses on Chris and its activities. What you couldn't do is a story about a Sonichu recolor having some dumb adventure while Chris gets laid as a side-story. [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 03:37, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Well by those rules, we'd have to delete the page on ''Sonichu Is Dead'', because Chris barely appears in it. We need a single, objective policy for what gets to stay and what doesn't, regardless of quality. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 11:40, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree that there has to be some kind of objective criteria, not just what largely seems to be "Your fic/comic is bad, and you should feel bad, ur a furfag lawl." If you want to cut fics because the Fan section is getting out of hand, fine. Just come up with a standard that makes sense and enforce it. If the "How you think Sonichu should have been" rule is enforced, then the entire fan section will be pretty much gutted. If we go with the "About Chris not Sonichu", well pretty much every fic has Chris' Mary Sue Avatar Combined with his real self on there, so where's the line? Is it IRL Chris, or Comic Chris? [[User:Mellowyellowsalvation|Mellowyellowsalvation]] 16:41, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
*That's why I think limiting ourselves to stuff to which Chris has responded makes the most sense. He either did, or he didn't, and there are no shades of grey. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 02:05, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

*As I've said elsewhere, I personally think the Fan Works index is more of a hassle than it's worth and we should get rid of it. Clyde has suggested a separate wiki and I think that might be the best solution. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:47, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
** I would agree that a second site for fan works would probably be the best course of action. However, I think we should consider keeping notable fanworks (that is, those that Chris has responded to) here on the CWCki. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 17:16, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

=== Re:Examples of bad fanworks ===

Most of the fan works don't seem to fall in any of those categories. Is there something else that's a problem?--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 00:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
*No, a lot of the admins are just fickle, want things they specifically don't like deleted no matter if there was a good reason or not, and don't seem to realize that trolls don't necessarily have to be asses to anyone and everyone. [[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 12:35, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
* Right. It's that, it has nothing to do with an overwhelming majority of it being some sick fucks fantasy and has virtually or literally nothing to do with Chris. They're just angry, angry DAMN DIRTY SLANDEROUS TROLLS. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 03:12, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

* To avoid altercations like this, I would delete the index entirely. Simply put, there are other, far more suitable venues to put this, so you won't ever have to lapse into offended rage, or conversely, argue with trolls sticking their 'n***** noses' in your business. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 20:31, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

=== Dumb suggestion ===

Why couldn't we just grandfather stuff in? --[[User:GandWuser|GandWuser]] 12:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

=== my suggestion ===

wipe everything and start a new wiki because i'm cutting down everything that's eating up resources. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 16:31, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
*people should pay attention to me more. also pay attention to me. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 16:48, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I like this idea. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 17:00, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

i've been considering moving to a new version of mediawiki, but might as well wait for 1.16 to reach stable. this should go on technical though i guess --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 19:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

==Harassment and NPOV==

Recent events have brought up these issues, so let's address them.

First, let's do our best to aim for some semblance of [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|NPOV]]. Things considered by us to be good humored may not be taken that way by others. So yeah, try not to insult other sites, users, etc.

Harassment - yes, there are fuckwits on this wiki. There's fuckwits on any wiki. But don't point it out to them. People need to be able to edit without fear of harassment from others for their users. It's one thing to tell someone they're wrong or being just stupid, it's another to tell them they're now under watch by a group of people with various intents. I really can't ago against Cogs, as she has different ideas how to run the CWCki than I do, and she is the site owner, but please don't harass other users. If they're stupid, just point it out and explain calmly why but telling them they're fuckwits is no way to do it. Srsly, I expect a bit more from you people. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:16, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I concur with the statement about NPOV. When i edit articles that's usually what I'm going for. The CWCville article was ridiculous and full of shit that just wasn't the case, as are a great many articles. People making jokes and idle speculation at the expense of reality.

So kids, keep the memes out, and if a facet of Chris' mind or life is an unknown leave it that way instead of inserting your own idle speculation. We're here to document the real CWC (and related fictions about CWC created by the real CWC), not to create our own CWC. [[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]] 00:15, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

So, essentially, kill them gently? --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 20:28, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

*I've been thinking that maybe the best solution at this point would be to prohibit any discussion of matters unrelated to Chris and the CWCki, even on your own user page. Thus, many of the members who had been harassed or whatever in the past would probably have never been targeted in the first place. Granted, I would prefer if we didn't have to limit the users right to say what they want, and it would certainly be a pain in the ass to enforce,but could potentially prevent most if not all of the harassment issues. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 21:47, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
:*This wouldn't be an entirely bad idea, given that I know Wikipedia has basic rules about user pages, namely it's used to discuss one's contributions to Wikipedia and nothing more. Good thinking.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:18, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
*It might also help if suggesting that we resolve a bureaucratic issue without resulting to namecalling [[User_talk:DrShoggoth|didn't result in vague threats.]] --[[User:Star Platinum|Star Platinum]] 22:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
**agreed. I'm not exactly the biggest contributor on here, but even I've seen Delabonte threatening others for asking him to be a bit less abrasive in his messages, asking why exactly they were in trouble for something, or even not sharing the same opinion as him. Why does this guy get away with it? Also, I don't care if he's "respected by Cogs" as has been said, that doesn't mean he should be allowed to abuse his position, spam angry templates on other people's accounts just because he doesn't like them, and generally treat everyone else like shit. [[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 00:03, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
::*I agree on this policy. This kind of harassment brings down CWCki's appearance in a whole. It makes us look less like a reputable source on an autistic manchild and more like a restricted community of threatening rep destruction and overenforced rules. There is no need to attack innocents just for casual talk or for living certain lifestyles, it's just plain wrong in general. Delabonte is just a person who feels privileged and like he needs to point out things about people and act like he needs to be a Jr. Mod of sorts. To be frank, this is annoying and just rude. I'm a member of many places, but never once have I done anything like go out and go "OH NO THAT'S NOT FOLLOWING '''MY''' RULES TEMPLATE ''TEMPLATE'' ''' ''TEMPLATE'' '''!" and not a lot of people here have before. It's inappropriate, immature and quite low IQed. So, in conclusion, and tl;dr: Agree with idea, down with empty threated non-mod steam-filled members. --[[User:Eniggy|Sen. John Eniggy, finishing opening statements for case on the Congressional floor]] 04:48, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
:::* Not to be a jackass or anything, but try and keep in mind where you are. This is a website dedicated to trolling an autistic manchild. Many of the people here are involved with other trolling operations and such. Lots of trolls like to target furrys. By ousting yourself as a furry here you're essentially making yourself a black man at a Ku Klux Klan rally. Not saying that all of this harassment should have occurred, but it certainly wasn't unforeseeable to the victims. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 05:36, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
::::*ThatMan has nailed why Delabonte and others feel warranted in acting like they do and this is pretty much the justification for some of Cog's and Clyde's actions here. Remember, this is a critical site of Chris, essentially out to troll him, and so you're not going to be attracting the same sort of people to edit as say, Wikipedia. I can talk to Delabonte about shit.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:09, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
::::* Actually, I'm not a furry (they scare me, to be quite honest- I'd sooner run through traffic and fling myself off a highway bridge than be one) but the point here, as shown by your post is, is about the exploits of Chris and the trolls who have trolled him, not a place for people to use trolling to vent their anger upon here. I don't support weeabooism, but I also don't support using CWCki as a stress ball. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 05:47, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

== User pages for banned users ==

Anyone opposed to not having user pages for banned users? Seems to be taking up space and seems sorta silly. I once said something along the lines of "To serve an example" or something but now I think it's just a waste of space. Anyone opposed to deleting user pages of permanently banned user? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:51, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
:No objections here. --[[User:James Lamp-Eye|James Lamp-Eye]] 23:59, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
:Depends on the user. I see no problem in deleting some of IBAGeneva's accounts, but we should keep a couple of examples (maybe between five and ten?).--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] forgot to sign
:I would agree that we should just delete their pages so as to not waste space, but is there any way we could possibly mark that they were banned when their signature is shown on talk pages and stuff like that? I just feel like this would help prevent any potential confusion between users who are banned and users who don't have user pages. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 01:00, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:*A short page about wby they were banned sounds good. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:25, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
::That actually gives me a better idea, maybe their could be a page of banned users, with notes showing the reason for why they were banned. When a user is banned, their userpage could just be a redirect to this page.

CWCki:Policy

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ThatMan: /* User pages for banned users */

__NEWSECTIONLINK__
For discussion of CWCki policy and rules.

== Fan Works policy ==

right now there aren't really any rules regards what can and cannot go in the fan namespace. this is because i trusted users to judge for themselves whether or not their work belonged on the cwcki. so, let's get its purpose straight: fan works was meant to be PVCC's troll productions subforum, but public. it is not, however, a mirror site incase deviantart goes down. i feel that some individuals are forgetting that this is a wiki about CWC. now, it's quite tricky to say what can and cannot be hosted here. there are very few examples of things being uploaded that are completely unrelated to chris or sonichu. however, i will try my best to clarify what is appropriate.

'''Examples of good fanworks:'''
* A drawing of CWC saying DYKES DYKES CHINA being placed into the "CWC's Second Message" article
* An "artist's depiction" of something we have no pictures of but how it may have looked, i.e. Chris in the mall with his attraction sign, Chris using his "red string of fate", Chris's IRL confrontation with Mary Lee Walsh, [[Fapcup]], etc
* Comics what are actually funny

'''Examples of bad fanworks:'''
* A Sonichu comic depicting how you think Sonichu should have been
* Shitty recolored Sonichu and Rosechu "original characters"
* Your shitty fursona with a Sonichu tail shoved up its ass

to summarise, i think the distinction lies in whether or not it is actually related to ''chris''. there are lots of things related to sonichu, many of which include chris, but are actually disconnected from chris's antics themselves. i don't think these are appropriate for this wiki, and i see their numbers increasing(although i would like to refrain from naming names).

please discuss any changes or clarifications that you wish made, however i would like to implement these new rules by the end of the week. if a user feels their own uploads were, in light of these policy changes, in error then they can remove them now to save the jerkops the trouble of removing them later.

PEACE, AND HAVE A GOOD DAY --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 21:59, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity, could we see just what works are and are not on the chopping block? Just so we can see where we stand on this. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 02:54, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
* i guess it might be useful to have a template for that --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 09:26, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

No. When the purge is complete you will know exactly where you stand. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 03:07, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Um, does one need any kind of admin status to delete files? I'm trying to figure this out. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 03:32, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

===Just who decides what's worthy?===
I can get behind the fact that you want this wiki to be about Chris, with his Sonichu works simply being an extension of him. What bothers me is how all this hate coming from users complaining about fan works they simply don't care for. If fan works are removed all together from here, I'd be alright with that. But when someone said "all Sonichu-related works need to go, except the ones I like!" it seems more like favoritism rather than objective policy. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 00:13, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, though I myself am hardly unbiased. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|manwithoutabody]] 00:28, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it's almost like this wiki is run by trolls who cae not for your feelings.--[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 01:47, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Just because we troll Chris doesn't mean we can't deal with each other in a civilized manner. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|manwithoutabody]] 02:42, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

You don't troll shit, spud. [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 02:44, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Can anything be done on this site without creating a shitstorm? This isn't some crusade against drawfags, and it shouldn't be painted as such by EITHER side. The site is about Chris, and the large amount of coverage on his creations is only because they made up such a large part of his life. The CWCki isn't about Sonichu, it's about Chris. Maybe some exceptions can be made, but for now fanworks not directly about Chris need to go. I myself enjoy many, especially Fear and Loathing in CWCville, but unless it is used to successfully troll Chris, it doesn't belong here.
Thing is, we need a peaceful resolution to this. Shit with faggot users and /cwc/ is bad enough, we don't need this to blow up. Maybe exceptional fanworks can be allowed; if not, they can be hosted on DA, or perhaps a site devoted to Sonichu. The artists and fans need to remember that this isn't an attack against their work, it's just policy. Users who want to be active in the execution of this policy need to not be dicks about it, and be responsible about it. It's not "deleting shit one doesn't like," it's removing unnecessary images and articles. --[[User:Schuzrum-dias|Schuzrum Dias]] 02:58, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:Well, like I've said before, I will print out every page, bind it, and mail it to him when I'm finished. Which should be in two weeks or so. If my works are deleted before then, I'm not going to worry too much. In fact, it wouldn't bother me much at all if the entire fan section was removed and all fan art was deleted. I'm just a little put off from the vitriol a lot of the critics are spewing. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 03:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
::You think he's going to read it, that's cute. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 03:36, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Maybe, maybe not, what's the harm in trying? The most it'll cost me is a few bucks in postage. Well, that and the markers. Now I understand why he textwalls so much, those things dry out quick! :P --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 03:49, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

That makes sense. I could totally get on board starting a new site just to host these things. If we do so, though, we need clearly-defined criteria as to what gets to stay. Limiting ourselves to stuff Chris has seen would be fair, but it would need to be absolutely enforced. Which is to say, we couldn't have a page on ''Chris Gets Laid'', excellent though it is, unless he himself responded to it in some way. -[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 03:31, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

You could do that. That's entirely acceptable, as it focuses on Chris and its activities. What you couldn't do is a story about a Sonichu recolor having some dumb adventure while Chris gets laid as a side-story. [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 03:37, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Well by those rules, we'd have to delete the page on ''Sonichu Is Dead'', because Chris barely appears in it. We need a single, objective policy for what gets to stay and what doesn't, regardless of quality. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 11:40, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree that there has to be some kind of objective criteria, not just what largely seems to be "Your fic/comic is bad, and you should feel bad, ur a furfag lawl." If you want to cut fics because the Fan section is getting out of hand, fine. Just come up with a standard that makes sense and enforce it. If the "How you think Sonichu should have been" rule is enforced, then the entire fan section will be pretty much gutted. If we go with the "About Chris not Sonichu", well pretty much every fic has Chris' Mary Sue Avatar Combined with his real self on there, so where's the line? Is it IRL Chris, or Comic Chris? [[User:Mellowyellowsalvation|Mellowyellowsalvation]] 16:41, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
*That's why I think limiting ourselves to stuff to which Chris has responded makes the most sense. He either did, or he didn't, and there are no shades of grey. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 02:05, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

*As I've said elsewhere, I personally think the Fan Works index is more of a hassle than it's worth and we should get rid of it. Clyde has suggested a separate wiki and I think that might be the best solution. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:47, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
** I would agree that a second site for fan works would probably be the best course of action. However, I think we should consider keeping notable fanworks (that is, those that Chris has responded to) here on the CWCki. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 17:16, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

=== Re:Examples of bad fanworks ===

Most of the fan works don't seem to fall in any of those categories. Is there something else that's a problem?--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 00:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
*No, a lot of the admins are just fickle, want things they specifically don't like deleted no matter if there was a good reason or not, and don't seem to realize that trolls don't necessarily have to be asses to anyone and everyone. [[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 12:35, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
* Right. It's that, it has nothing to do with an overwhelming majority of it being some sick fucks fantasy and has virtually or literally nothing to do with Chris. They're just angry, angry DAMN DIRTY SLANDEROUS TROLLS. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 03:12, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

* To avoid altercations like this, I would delete the index entirely. Simply put, there are other, far more suitable venues to put this, so you won't ever have to lapse into offended rage, or conversely, argue with trolls sticking their 'n***** noses' in your business. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 20:31, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

=== Dumb suggestion ===

Why couldn't we just grandfather stuff in? --[[User:GandWuser|GandWuser]] 12:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

=== my suggestion ===

wipe everything and start a new wiki because i'm cutting down everything that's eating up resources. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 16:31, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
*people should pay attention to me more. also pay attention to me. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 16:48, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I like this idea. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|Manwithoutabody]] 17:00, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

i've been considering moving to a new version of mediawiki, but might as well wait for 1.16 to reach stable. this should go on technical though i guess --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 19:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

==Harassment and NPOV==

Recent events have brought up these issues, so let's address them.

First, let's do our best to aim for some semblance of [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|NPOV]]. Things considered by us to be good humored may not be taken that way by others. So yeah, try not to insult other sites, users, etc.

Harassment - yes, there are fuckwits on this wiki. There's fuckwits on any wiki. But don't point it out to them. People need to be able to edit without fear of harassment from others for their users. It's one thing to tell someone they're wrong or being just stupid, it's another to tell them they're now under watch by a group of people with various intents. I really can't ago against Cogs, as she has different ideas how to run the CWCki than I do, and she is the site owner, but please don't harass other users. If they're stupid, just point it out and explain calmly why but telling them they're fuckwits is no way to do it. Srsly, I expect a bit more from you people. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:16, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I concur with the statement about NPOV. When i edit articles that's usually what I'm going for. The CWCville article was ridiculous and full of shit that just wasn't the case, as are a great many articles. People making jokes and idle speculation at the expense of reality.

So kids, keep the memes out, and if a facet of Chris' mind or life is an unknown leave it that way instead of inserting your own idle speculation. We're here to document the real CWC (and related fictions about CWC created by the real CWC), not to create our own CWC. [[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]] 00:15, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

So, essentially, kill them gently? --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 20:28, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

*I've been thinking that maybe the best solution at this point would be to prohibit any discussion of matters unrelated to Chris and the CWCki, even on your own user page. Thus, many of the members who had been harassed or whatever in the past would probably have never been targeted in the first place. Granted, I would prefer if we didn't have to limit the users right to say what they want, and it would certainly be a pain in the ass to enforce,but could potentially prevent most if not all of the harassment issues. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 21:47, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
:*This wouldn't be an entirely bad idea, given that I know Wikipedia has basic rules about user pages, namely it's used to discuss one's contributions to Wikipedia and nothing more. Good thinking.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:18, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
*It might also help if suggesting that we resolve a bureaucratic issue without resulting to namecalling [[User_talk:DrShoggoth|didn't result in vague threats.]] --[[User:Star Platinum|Star Platinum]] 22:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
**agreed. I'm not exactly the biggest contributor on here, but even I've seen Delabonte threatening others for asking him to be a bit less abrasive in his messages, asking why exactly they were in trouble for something, or even not sharing the same opinion as him. Why does this guy get away with it? Also, I don't care if he's "respected by Cogs" as has been said, that doesn't mean he should be allowed to abuse his position, spam angry templates on other people's accounts just because he doesn't like them, and generally treat everyone else like shit. [[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 00:03, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
::*I agree on this policy. This kind of harassment brings down CWCki's appearance in a whole. It makes us look less like a reputable source on an autistic manchild and more like a restricted community of threatening rep destruction and overenforced rules. There is no need to attack innocents just for casual talk or for living certain lifestyles, it's just plain wrong in general. Delabonte is just a person who feels privileged and like he needs to point out things about people and act like he needs to be a Jr. Mod of sorts. To be frank, this is annoying and just rude. I'm a member of many places, but never once have I done anything like go out and go "OH NO THAT'S NOT FOLLOWING '''MY''' RULES TEMPLATE ''TEMPLATE'' ''' ''TEMPLATE'' '''!" and not a lot of people here have before. It's inappropriate, immature and quite low IQed. So, in conclusion, and tl;dr: Agree with idea, down with empty threated non-mod steam-filled members. --[[User:Eniggy|Sen. John Eniggy, finishing opening statements for case on the Congressional floor]] 04:48, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
:::* Not to be a jackass or anything, but try and keep in mind where you are. This is a website dedicated to trolling an autistic manchild. Many of the people here are involved with other trolling operations and such. Lots of trolls like to target furrys. By ousting yourself as a furry here you're essentially making yourself a black man at a Ku Klux Klan rally. Not saying that all of this harassment should have occurred, but it certainly wasn't unforeseeable to the victims. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 05:36, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
::::*ThatMan has nailed why Delabonte and others feel warranted in acting like they do and this is pretty much the justification for some of Cog's and Clyde's actions here. Remember, this is a critical site of Chris, essentially out to troll him, and so you're not going to be attracting the same sort of people to edit as say, Wikipedia. I can talk to Delabonte about shit.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:09, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
::::* Actually, I'm not a furry (they scare me, to be quite honest- I'd sooner run through traffic and fling myself off a highway bridge than be one) but the point here, as shown by your post is, is about the exploits of Chris and the trolls who have trolled him, not a place for people to use trolling to vent their anger upon here. I don't support weeabooism, but I also don't support using CWCki as a stress ball. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 05:47, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

== User pages for banned users ==

Anyone opposed to not having user pages for banned users? Seems to be taking up space and seems sorta silly. I once said something along the lines of "To serve an example" or something but now I think it's just a waste of space. Anyone opposed to deleting user pages of permanently banned user? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:51, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
:No objections here. --[[User:James Lamp-Eye|James Lamp-Eye]] 23:59, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
:Depends on the user. I see no problem in deleting some of IBAGeneva's accounts, but we should keep a couple of examples (maybe between five and ten?).
:I would agree that we should just delete their pages so as to not waste space, but is there any way we could possibly mark that they were banned when their signature is shown on talk pages and stuff like that? I just feel like this would help prevent any potential confusion between users who are banned and users who don't have user pages. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 01:00, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

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Talk:Relics of Fail

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==A Taxonomy of Fail==
While I'm flattered that people have caught onto my taxonomy of referring to Chris's personal items as relics of fail with the suffix "Of Fail" (in the spirit of the Spear of Destiny), there's some confusion about what constitutes a relic. I'd like to chime in based on what I understand from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_relic#Roman_Catholic_classification_and_prohibitions the Catholic opinion of Christian relics].

Things that Chris have touched are relics (the [[medallion]], his [[Gitar of Fail|gitar]], etc.) These are personal items that have significance to Chris and in some cases, even factor into the comics. Analogous real world relics would be the Spear of Destiny, the Shroud of Turin, the Holy Grail, etc. These are items that are significant to the lore of Jesus of Nazareth in a similar fashion to Chris's relics factor into the lore of Chris. Any sort of part of Chris's body that can be collected, like hair or toenails, would be considered a relic in the same way that Muslims revere locks of hair or footprints of the Prophet Muhammad so when we get more stuff about the locks of hair Chris sent to his TRUE and LOYAL Mexican fan, we can document more on that (in fact, we actually do have that! I need to find the pics though. I should be getting my locks of hair soon).

So, what's not a relic? [[Creepy Stare of Fail|A stare]] is not a relic - you cannot obtain a stare. As long as Chris is alive, a finger is not a relic. While limbs of saints are considered holy relics (from what I understand, in Medieval times they had problems of pilgrims ripping off fingers and toes of saints), as long as Chris is alive you cannot obtain his oversized finger (unless you somehow convince Chris to chop off his finger, which he might seriously consider if [[china]] is involved).

I'm iffy about the oversized straw being a relic, as it's more of a graphic exaggeration that [[trolls]] find amusing than an actual, single straw that Chris uses to drink (though there's been some postulation lately that due to Chris's comments about how he slobbers, he might have a special straw he uses which explains the huge ass straw in the comic). While [[The Wall of Originals]] and [[Megan Shrine]] are mega important to Chris, they're not quite a single relic but more of a place or collection of relics, so I've considered them as Shrines.

tl;dr - if you can obtain it and it's of some significance to Chris, it's probably a relic. If not, then it's not a relic. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:19, 7 April 2009 (CEST)

:*I'm going to try to re-organize the relics into three categories: "major", "minor", and (I suppose I'll bring back) "lesser". Right now, there seem (to me) to be too many "major" relics, some of which are much more important than others. The less important "major" relics should be demoted to "minor" relics, and a few relics that are currently "minor" should in turn be demoted to "lesser". I don't foresee many complaints with the shuffle that I've got in mind, but I'm posting this here ahead of my actual page edit later today as a heads-up. [[User:Llort|Llort]] 13:45, 1 October 2009 (CEST)

==Guideline for Relic classification==

Let's take a religious approach to the current situation. Let's say that Chris is the "Messiah-of-Fail" and his comic is his gospel.
If he's set to becoming a full-flegged religion (please refrain from barfing) after his death, how his relics would be rated? Here's my idea:

*Major Relic: any object that has appeared at least once (1) in the "Gospel" and exist in real life. things like the [[Amnyfest Ring]], [[Attraction Sign]], [[Medallions of Fail]] and the [[Heart Torch of Fail]] fit right in. The [[Transformers|Megatron toy gun]] should be added here due to his appearance in [[Sonichu Special 4]].
*Minor relic: anything Chris named in his videos but failed to appear as such in the comic. The [[Sailor Moon Poster of Fail|Sailor Moon Poster of Fail]] and the [[Transformers|Optimus Prime toy]] fit right in. Anything Chris drawn and made should also fit right here.
*Lesser Relic: Anything Chris use as a prop and was yet to be named by him. The [[Belt Buckle of Fail]], the [[Clown Doll]], the [[Sex toys|Plush Boobs of Fail]] and the [[PSEye]] should be here.

Do I have something here? Any comments? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 21:04, 15 November 2009 (CET)
*But wouldn't that system make those stupid wing hair clips a major relic, since they've been both in real life and a plot point in the comic? Not that it's not complete and utter failure to act like he did about things meant for a (rather young) girl, but they were a minor thing which hardly qualify to be listed as major. --[[User:LizardPie|LizardPie]] 00:47, 16 November 2009 (CET)
:*Good point. But the major point of the original taxonomy was that we were getting things like "The Oversized Finger of Fail", "The Creepy Stare of Fail", and things that aren't really relics. It's like saying that the look on the face of Jesus is a relic which isn't the same thing as the Holy Grail or the Shroud of Turin.
::The point is, whatever the outcome of this discussion is, we need to agree that a relic is a physical object that a troll could in theory obtain and destroy. I think when I started the current classification, it was more or less based on the sentimental value that it would be to Chris. Chris would freak out if someone destroyed his high school ring. His Wii Remote, probably not. CWCki serves to not only to document Chris but also to aid trolls who wish to troll him and I think if people want to take the Blanca route of taking something precious to Chris and destroy it, we might as well give people an idea of what would make Chris crash into slumber. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:58, 16 November 2009 (CET)
:::As a base, I have to agree that the term "Relic" must describe a physical object. If not, every single thing Chris made and/or do can fit as a relic. Maybe adding the "Will cause emotional stress if lost/destroyed (Read: Target)" is enough. I am not inclined to create a fourth super-relic class, it would make the page looks silly. My goal here, and I hope it is shared, is to create a simple relic classification system where the simple beginner can use. Three or four questions should suffice to dictate where the object belongs. In example: Do the object appear in the comic? Do the object got a name? Do the object got a sentimental value for Chris? Do Chris use the object to exalt his "Virtues"? On the same idea, I have a hard time understanding why the PSEye is a major relic. Chris dint name it, dint decorated it and doesn't even care about it. Why it's a major relic? it makes no sense! [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 08:22, 16 November 2009 (CET)
::::*I agree with you there about a simple system that a newfag can use, as that's something we need to definitely aim for. As for the PSeye, probably because it's his means of communication to us, the Internet public, not to mention that it's cured his autism as he's practiced making eye contact with it and he magically overcame his autism (see the PSEye article on that. If it's not there, then we should mention it). --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:26, 16 November 2009 (CET)
* I'm pretty sure those boobs are rubber, not plush. A friend used to work in an adult bookstore/porno theater and they had these rubber boobs you could fuck in the same section of the counter they kept the male sex toys, which looked to be of poor quality. There were some rubber boobs with built-in vaginas and anuses on one side for extra terror, and some of these were supposed to be molds of some porn star's boobs. The idea is to hold onto the boobs while you fuck the area between them, or whatever orifices they've built in. It's a weird and creepy sex toy and it would be just like Chris to own it. --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 11:42, 16 November 2009 (CET)
:* Looked at the Spencer's page. Never mind, I agree. --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 10:24, 22 November 2009 (CET)

== Gun article needed ==

--[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 12:16, 16 November 2009 (CET)
:*[[Megatron pistol|Here we go.]] [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 18:13, 16 November 2009 (CET)

==Holy Grails (more like HOLY FAILS)==
If people think it's out of line, I'll remove it, but I'm adding a section of fabled documents and relics of Chris that trolls should try to procure and that are of value to trolls. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:49, 22 November 2009 (CET)
*Also, can someone find Chris mentioning the autism papers? I've sworn he mentioned them in a Liquid video." --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:57, 22 November 2009 (CET)
:*It's in one of the to-be-released Kacey chats. Chris says his sleeping dad has the key to the locked filing cabinet that would have to be sorted through for hours and on top of that his scanner's broken. Very mysterious. Chris might have demanded that ''Liquid'' show his autism papers, as proof of his identity. --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 10:43, 22 November 2009 (CET)

==Legendary Relics of Fail==

I suggest a new category: '''Legendary Relics of Fail'''. It's for those relics we have never actually seen, but they have been mentioned, etc., in the comics, and are implied to be real (at least, when the comic in question was made). This category could include: Oversized Drinking Straw of Fail, Anime Wings, DS of Fail (featured in Sonichu 1 Sub-Episode 2), etc. How about it?

Also, somecummpentydifferent. Should we probably: a) add the Guideline for Relic Classification in the article (as it's useful info), b) delete the "Artwork of Fail" section, as it's been established that a Relic of Fail should be a physical object? [[User:GokuGetEm|GokuGetEm]] 11:14, 23 November 2009 (CET)

==Proposed Addendum for Naming Relics==
You know, I just thought of something that may be of use when decided to name articles - I think the suffix "of Fail" should be limited to something Chris has forged from his own hands. For instance, the Medallion of Fail is Fail because Chris made it himself. His PSEye would not because, while it captures his fail, is not necessarily fail because it's just a regular PSEye.

Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:09, 26 November 2009 (CET)
*By the way, this isn't about classifying them. Something like the Megatron pistol can be a Relic of Fail but we wouldn't need to say it's the "Megatron pistol of Fail" for instance. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:12, 26 November 2009 (CET)
:*I suggest the classification as a whole should be not about naming or quotes or smth, it should be about the role the relic plays in Chris's mythos. Yes, it means some relics can be upgraded/douwngraded over time. As for the "of Fail" suffix, it may be just used when it's needed to denote that this relic can't possibly be win, despite its original statue. E.g., "Megatron pistol" is enough fail (for a 27-year-old to use), so it doesn't need a suffix "of Fail". Medallions in general may be win or fail, so we need to add that this here Medallion is "of Fail". Just my two cents :) --[[User:GokuGetEm|GokuGetEm]] 13:55, 26 November 2009 (CET)

==Fusion==

Almost every single relic of fail article is a stub, and there's no real way to add content to those pages. I suggest that we merge all of these stubs with this article to remove some unavoidable stubs. Some of the longer articles can stay where they are, but I think it's better to have one long page over 10+ stubs. This would also help with categorisation (maybe) because the system we have seems pretty normative to me, and that pisses me off for some reason. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 11:15, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

==Parappa Beanie of Fail?==

I'm going to suggest adding that [[Parappa]] beanie that Chris is so fond of, since he's worn it a couple of times. I'd also like to note that it actually appeared in the comic, where it granted Sonichu the paper-thin aspect present in the games. [[User:Woohah Master|Woohah Master]] 22:21, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I would agree with this, except I don't think he's worn it nearly enough to call it a Relic. --[[User:MEANWHILE|MEANWHILE]] 23:26, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I dunno, it seems to qualify enough under the requirements of the Taxonomy of Fail. It seems to hold value to Chris, because he caps-locked HIS when describing the hat, meaning Chris may consider it to be more than meets the eye. Also, the Pokewalkers got an article, and they're even more minor than the hat, imo [[User:Woohah Master|Woohah Master]] 03:04, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Personally I think they're too minor to have pages (granted, I feel the same way about his Pokewalkers, and of course they already have pages), but even if we do go ahead with one, keep in mind that some member are proposing a project to rename the relics of fail so as to give them better suffixes than "of fail". Thus, I feel that it would be best to see what decision is made on that issue before a page is made. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 05:24, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Champthom

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ThatMan: /* Regarding the 'Relics of fail' items. */

Talk to me.

Be sure to check out the archives as well:

'''Archive:''' [[User:Champthom/Archive 1|1]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 2|2]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 3|3]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 4|4]]

==Upload page==
Thank you sir, your change is much appreciated. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 12:43, 20 December 2009 (CET)

==Sonichu Franchise Games==

How about this: [[User:Dude/Sonichu_Franchise_Games]]

...replace these:
*[[Sonichu (game)]]
*[[John's Custom Gundam: Sisterly Rescue]]
*[[Pokémon:_Lightning_Version]]
*[[Sonichu_Adventure]]
*[[Sonichu_Advance]]
*[[EX-CWC]]
--[[User:Dude|Dude]] 05:47, 22 December 2009 (CET)

==Chris's First Interview==
I noticed on [[Talk:Chris-chan_Discusses...]] you asked for someone to mirror Chris's first interview on Youtube. I know that was a while back, <s>but as far as I can tell no one has actually done it yet</s>, so I went ahead and did it for you [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U-4Mvc5LbM]. I hope you're pleased. --[[User:That Man|That Man]] 23:10, 27 December 2009 (CET)
*just noticed a while ago that it's aleardy been uploaded by The CWCville Library. I have no clue how I was so oblivious to that. --[[User:That Man|That Man]] 03:26, 28 December 2009 (CET)
:*I didn't notice this either, thank you for telling me about this though and I appreciate your effort anyways.
:*Also can't seem to find it on the CWCvilleLibrary...could you possibly post a link?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:49, 28 December 2009 (CET)

==Thanks, Champthom==
<nowiki>:)</nowiki> --[[User:GokuGetEm|GokuGetEm]] 09:53, 31 December 2009 (CET)

==New Hotness for Videos==
Take a look at this template for videos that [[User:NeoShadow]] made; it's really sweet. It can wrap around videos (in the middle of the page, where they are now) or it can be used as a sidebar.

*Template: [[Template:Infobox/video]]

*Centered example: [[User:Neoshadow/sandbox/Sonic_Sweepstakes]]

*Sidebar example: [[User:Neoshadow/sandbox/Sonic_Sweepstakes2]]

Thoughts? It's been on the [[CWCki:Priority_Listing|to do list]] for a while now, and we could get one or the other in place pretty quickly. The big question is which placement to use, and general style questions vis-a-vis the way it looks. Let us know! --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 09:43, 3 January 2010 (CET)
*I really like it, but there was some debate (I need to see where) over the usage of video infoboxes, as some people argued it's unnecessarily replicates information one can gleam from the article. However, I think your centered example might solve that as this is ultimately what we can use to replace just pasting the video in Video sections of articles. I think the "Made by" would be useless in 99% of situations (with the very few videos made by other people, such as the Watch and Win one, or the videos by Scarlet). Personally I like your infoboxes, but I'm not sure if everyone else likes it elsewhere.
:Best I'd do is mention this in the [[CWCki:Community_Portal|community portal]]. As I said, I think your centered example might be very useful and a nicer display than just a YouTube video in the video section. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:11, 3 January 2010 (CET)
*This add-on is useless and redundant if you ask me. There's nothing new here you can't read in the introduction of the video, in the video navigation bar and I don't see the need for the "Festive" icons. I respect the efforts but I am a K.I.S.S.-Type of guy. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 15:02, 3 January 2010 (CET)

==IMPOSTORS==

Hey Champ, this is the "dude" from the old CWCki... somebody claimed my nick in the three hours between Cogs fixing the captcha and me checking back in =( Is there anything we can do about this? I can still log into the old CWCki to prove my TRUTH and HONESTY, and I used the same email signing up here (this account) and there (the old "dude"). --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 05:12, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
*I'll consult with Cogs later tonight, as I'm not sure if we can kick this other "Dude" off and have you have his nickname, especially given that it's an extremely generic name someone could have chosen (like Anonymous or Nobody or some name like that) or if we can do this, if it is right in doing so. Now I am concerned that people might try to leech off the fame of others by signing up for accounts of previous CWCki users, either to jump start their e-fame or as a way of trolling, so I'll need a second opinion. If anyone wants to weigh in on the matter, by all means do so. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 10:57, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
**Yeah, it's pretty generic, but at the same time, I only signed up around October, so it wasn't generic enough to be taken by then. I am kind of surprised that somebody snapped it up so quickly, since I was pretty actively trying to get it back myself. I suppose it could be innocent, but it's still kind of frustrating. Thanks for looking into it. --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 14:52, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
can you give him the account back. i didn't know. i didnt think dude was gona be available, i though i got lucky. didnt mean to steal it, ill make another one [[User:Dude|Dude]] 00:26, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
*No problem Dude (see what I did there?). Okay, here's how this will go down - new Dude, when you get a new account, AIM or message me in IRC when you do. I will merge your current account into your new one. That will free up the username "Dude" and old Dude can register that way. rpoblem oslved. If there's any problems, you guys let me know because then I have to resort to Plan B. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:36, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
*New [[User:Dude|Dude]] has been [[Special:Contributions/Dude|inactive]] for about a week now... can I get my account back? --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 17:49, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
:*The new Dude needs to contact me so I can merge his old account into the new one, thus freeing up "Dude." If he doesn't respond in 24 hours or so, then contact me and I'll reset the password and give it over to you. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:57, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

== I'll not take this treachery sitting down! ==

You dare claim superiority over my powers as a great and terrifying wizard!? You shall soon see the error of your ways, good sir Champthom. I am a vengeful spellcaster, and I will rape you furiously in your sleep. [[User:Artiph|Artiph the Destroyer, Omniscient Archmage, bearer of the Grimoire of Destruction, whose powers by and large surpass that of the Great Wizard CrassCrab, Lord of the Seven Realm and Master of the Archane Black Arts of the Eleventh Trans-Dimensional Vortex]] 11:03, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

==Sup==
Have a job for me? You told me to get in touch... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 19:38, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
*Well I was going to ask you to help upload images but people got onto that which is good.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:57, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
:*Coolio. On Another note, don't bother restoring my Jerkop status. I don't need it now seeing as how images have a MUCH higher ceiling. I'll stick around to improve articles and help people with images if they need it. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 10:02, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

==SPECIAL MISSION==
I accept. Should I simply sign up for an account on Asperpedia and get started or what? --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 09:19, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
*Yeah, do that - sign up for an Asperpedia account and go zap to the extreme. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:17, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

==Just to let you know==

There's a new user who registered under the name ChristianWestonChandler. I am watching this account since it came online. I just don't get a good feeling about this. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 07:00, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

==Apologies==

Thank you for fixing that mistake, that was the first time I added a template so I really am horrible at it. --[[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 5:05 20 January 2010 (CET)

== Chris's resume ==

Would you please be so kind as to move this to [[Chris's résumé]] for the sake of more accurate spelling, and to satisfy the grammar nazi in me? If you don't know how to make the fancy és, just copy and paste mine. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 04:22, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
*Also, please to be deleting [[Chris and fame]]. Broken redirect. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 20:15, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

== A new Mailbag bombing==
Well, our dear Christian has now started giving a copy paste reply as his new method of rejection. And hes done it to Mike Jackson's widow. We had a quick discussion about that in the talk page, and we thought it'd be an idea for another mailbag thats just filled entirely with letters about this one subject. Like how we had a whole mailbag asking about Asperchu and stuff like that? I thought we could have another of those; Only this time have an entire mailbag of people calling him out for being such a prick and for still not properly ansewing letters. What do you think Champ? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 18:59, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

* To amend that idea, I suggest having Sysop inform him of another pending legal issue that can only be averted if he gives full replies to each email--he can't use the "Inputed" response or delete the whole thing and replace it with a general response or else the site goes down again or something.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 19:32, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

* Agreed. We need some sort of cover from him rejecting it in any way. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:56, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

== [[Politics]] ==

Please to be deleting. Broken redirect. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 01:11, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

== Sandy Rosechu ==

Any idea why [[Sandy Rosechu]] is showing up in [[:Category:Templates]]? [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 22:17, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
*Fixed it. The Squote template didn't have noinclude wrapped around its category. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:21, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
**That was my fault. --[[User:Mikhail Faulken|Mikhail Faulken]] 22:24, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

== halp ==

Yo [[Scampers|Champers]], could you derete this page here: http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/Template:Christory/March_07 ? It will be confus if it doesn't turn up as a red link. Sorry for mistake. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 15:00, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

== YO! ==

Champ old boy, do you have sauce on [[:File:CWCinDailyProgressJuly142007.jpg|this]] here sniplet? It must have slipped right past me, and now I want to know what it is! [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 02:09, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

==Jerkops Anonymous==

Hey, Champthom. I've been in the mood to move a page or two recently, but my jerkop privileges were abolished with the move to CWCki 2.0. Would you mind reinstating them? [[User:Llort|Llort]] 03:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

== Cole Smithey ==

Don't you think an edit like [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Z_%28film%29&diff=prev&oldid=344566166 this] seems too intentional to be an impostor? Never mind 30+ edits to the Cole Smithey article? [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 18:13, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
==Re: Pic of Wallflower==
Is this ok? It was shopped and It looks less like a man
[[Image:ClydeandLovelyweather.jpg|thumb|right]]

-[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 04:02, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

== Posse ==

Champ, I don't know if you still need monitors, but I have no life and lurk on the CWCki pretty much all day. Hit me up if you need me. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 04:06, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
*NO U. Srsly, contact me on AIM or IRC tonight. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:07, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

==Summaries==

Ok, so I will check. I've started trying to sort and format the summaries for each of the Mumbles, and it's March Mumble Madness, but I seem to have contradicted instructions (as I discovered having worked on ALL of them), by listing rather than writing a narrative. What is it you want exactly, so I can get on it ASAP. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 04:11, 18 March 2010 (UTC)22:40, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

==Article of the Now==

You wanted some sort of template to denote former articles of the now? [[Template:Articleofthenow|How's this?]] --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 19:58, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
*Clyde already made something, just need to incorporate it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:06, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
*Late to the party again. Never mind --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 20:23, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

== List of Chris' lies ==

Okay, I trust your judgment on this. Wasn't sure if cleanup or deletion was the better solution and it looks like I chose wrong. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 20:36, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

== Quality Control jerkops ==

Hey, I saw your comment re "Quality Control" jerkops, of which none seem to be active at this point. I think I could handle that. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 21:12, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

== Champ old boy ==

People want to update [[Fan:Sonichu: The Animated Series]], could you unlock it for a while? [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 09:12, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

== Userboxes ==
Is it cool for users to make new rewards\userboxes, like the Grammar Nazi and Assburgers ones, for instance? Some wikis I've edited on don't like for you to make new ones due to space or whatnot, and others let you go crazy with it. Just want to check beforehand. [[User:BubblegumPinkButler|BubblegumPinkButler]] 03:22, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
*Yeah, it's alright, just don't go too crazy by making a kajillion of them. Some of the useboxes, like the Jerkop, Admin, etc. are obviously protected and it's poor taste to award yourself awards like the Order of the Pickle, etc. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:44, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

==April Fool's Day==
Since its going to be april fools day when the ultimatum expires why dont we just shut down for 1 day and let chris think he's won.
I mean worst that can happpen is he forgets about us, or the best is that he actually makes a "victory over cwcki" vid.

and then bring it back on the 2nd with a big fuck you chris

user: DKD 15.13 GMT 31.3.10
* No. That's stupid. Chris will make a "HA HA I GOT U TROLLS" video and quit paying attention to us because he thinks we are gone. If we stay up, we will have our own FUCK YOU CHRIS simply because we're not down. This will make Chris angry, and angry Chris is funny.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 14:18, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

*Never compromise, even in the face of <strike>Armageddon</strike> April Fool's Day. Also, in the future, make a sub heading (it's two equal signs, then your text, followed by two equal signs). --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:32, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

This makes me worry now. What if Chris is pulling a long, convoluted April Fools prank, possibly the idea of a white knight? --[[User:Zehnfragezeichen|Zehnfragezeichen]] 16:18, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
*Don't be silly. The only White Knight who he listens to is Rocky, and even then, only just barely. And whats the chances that a church counsellor is going to come troll us? I think we're safe. Its almost certain that his plan consists of 'blank pages' and 'try to find and stab the webmaster' --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:32, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

How bout we say that both bob and snorlax are dead, and put 14 Branchland Court up for sale? {{unsigned|Dan Dash}}

*Please, for the love of God, sign your comments. It's four tildas (~) in a row. I'm tempted to start banning people (albeit temporarily) for those who can't learn how to sign their fucking posts. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:28, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

:*Champ's got the rage. Dan, would that actually get to Chris? Seems to me it wouldn't bother him that much. Also seems he's making himself trollproof by becoming detached from us. Thoughts? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 23:04, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
:**He's not trollproofing himself at all, he's just fighting the urge to go online and complain about things. This is exactly like when we got him to make the comic--he was really diligent about it and when he missed a day he usually made up by posting two comics on the next. Flash forward two months and he's only releasing it in short bursts. He'll be back on his own in that time--less if he thinks Sonichu is being threatened. I suggest that someone put up an ad on CWCipedia that states that Chris has declared all Asperpedia comics cannon within the Sonichuverse. Or something about how Chris risks losing the "copyright" if he doesn't make visible use of it for more than two months.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 23:14, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

::*I'm not sure, he didn't even seem too angry when he discovered the Cwcipedia was devastated (now THAT would've been an April Fool's Day joke). Could it be that he's becoming numb to it? We've done almost everything we can to slander him, his family, and Sonichu. We've set up "sweethearts" toyed with him and, albeit inadvertently, brought about the end of his last IRL gal-pal. We sent the health department to his house, without effect, and have parodied Sonichu and Chris himself. What else CAN we do to this guy? --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 23:17, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
::**We didn't call the health department on him and he never learns from his mistakes. We do it again and again. He's not getting desensitized at all, actually. We know most of his buttons now, we've just got to know when to push them. Oh, and every now and then Chris will do something to troll himself, and that's always worth a laugh.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 23:27, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
::*** But it's getting kind of cyclical, Chris gets a new sweetheart, he get's in love mood, phone calls are leaked, get lulzy videos and then, someone manages to anger him, he spews some death threats, then the sweetheart leaves/reveals as troll/dies and then we have sulk Chris, then he completely forgets about it and we have the smug Chris, and in between all that he makes a rant video once in a while. Pretty much we have seen everything chris has to offer for trolling.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 04:26, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

==General question==
Alright so Im a massive newfag here, and I'm wondering how do I create those tags on your pages? For example the eurofag and amerifag stuff. Can I create my own and upload them onto my user page?
[[User:Dkd|Dkd]] 23:55, 31 March 2010 (UTC)DKD 00:54 GMT 01.04.10
Templates.--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 03:20, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== "Contact me ASAP" ==

What's going on? --[[User:Jerkop|Jerkop]] 03:59, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
*Contact me privately. My info is on my use page, we can't discuss this openly. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:25, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
*I've tried to contact you through AIM before, but because I'm a cheapskate who can't use Windows software, I suspect AIM didn't work too well on my end. I'm now in IRC too. I hope this works better. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 10:36, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

==CWC superstar==
Which Chris video did you get mentioned in?

[[User:Dkd|Dkd]] 12:55, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
*[[Bunny Hop|PYONG PYONG PYONG! HOPPY EASTER FOR]] [[Crass and Champ|CRASS AND '''CHAMP''']]. Technically he's referring to the crab named after me, so there should be an asterisk. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:24, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

==Artist for hire==

I would be pleased to help by uploading pictures on the CWCki. The problem is that I don't know where to start. There was a page with the needing drawings but it wasn't updated in quite a while.
I talked to Cogsdev on the irc #sonichu and was referred to you. I'm not new to the Cwcki, but I only registered only today.
Here's an example of what I can do, if it's good enough:
http://cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:Sonee_2.jpg --[[User:Blacksky01|Blacksky01]] 23:10, 13 april 2010

*I'd say that the [[Artist Commune]] for requested images is still current, so you can still try there. I'd say that the [[Mumble]] chats could use illustrations, mostly of illustrations to go with notable quotes from the chat.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:29, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

*Here's a pic for the IRC(16 october 2008) with 2 notable quotes from it. Since I'm not sure how to add it in a good way, I'll leave it to you.

http://cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:IRC(16_October_2008).jpg

I hope it's good enough, I kinda messed up the pedo-glasse since it was done from memory.
Also, how can I link my signature to my userpage?--[[User:Blacksky01|Blacksky01]] 13:44, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

*Here's another one, this time for the IRC (20 January 2009).

http://cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:IRC(20_January_2009).jpg

I tried doing the pedo glasses right this time. I'll leave this to you. Also, thanks for the edit Beat.--[[User:Blacksky01|Blacksky01]] 22:58, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

== Transcription Category ==

What are your views on a category for all articles containing transcriptions? It would make them easier to locate for maintenance or general interest IMO. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 22:42, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

== Question About Templates ==

Hey, I recently uploaded the 4 templates [[Template:Observer|Observer]], [[Template:Warrior|Warrior]], [[Template:Hero|Hero]], and [[Template:Legend|Legend]]. I was wondering what I should do with them( I'm not the best at using Wikis). Should I move them somewhere, edit them, etc.? Also, since you deleted two of the category pages, I was wondering if I should restore those or delete the other two. Sorry if there are any problems. --[[User:Alcoholic Legend|Alcoholic Legend]] 03:10, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

:Oh, also, just wanted to tell ya that I restored the two category pages for now (now all 4 are up instead of just 2/4). If you want me to change/move anything, I'll gladly do it. Just tell me what to do and I'll get it done. : ) --[[User:Alcoholic Legend|Alcoholic Legend]] 06:14, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

== Old Cats ==

As part of a revamp of userboxes and their categories, there's a lot of now [[Special:UnusedCategories|unused categories prefixed with "List of"]] that need to be deleted forever. Can you fix? --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 05:16, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
:There's a few more List of... categories that need nuking. You might have just got hand cramp or something :) --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:21, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
:*[[THAT IS MY HOUSE|I'M WORKIN ON IT!]].--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:10, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== Deletion, moving and er, shit ==

To do with the Twitter stuff. I remember you saying something about Jerkop powers not extending to moving/deletion. Can I? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 10:55, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

On a related note, I made a mistake on an [[Bill Lumburg/Fan:Sonichu 11|article]] I created and I'm trying to move it to my Userspace. Can you help me with this? I don't see a move option anywhere so I'm assuming only admins can do it. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 03:58, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
*Thanks for taking care of that. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 04:54, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== New Performance Style ==

Made this and applied it to a few pages after discussion that in the latest video none of the templates reflected the performance style (unadulterated smugness). Probably should have run it by you before I added it to a load of videos, sorry about that. :(

{{Comeuppance.png|text}}

:The template has been named incorrectly (Should not have the .png). The icon doesn't seem to match the style of the others - most notably the eyes. And I personally still don't think comeuppance is the right name we should give the template, but that's just me. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 13:02, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

== Video Template ==

So I made a change to the video template last night which inserts a linked version of Chris's name on video templates when someone puts '''|maker= Chris'''. Do you think that since the template is intended for Chris videos, we can just make the maker default to displaying Chris's name and drop the |maker= line for most uses of the template - retaining the option to include it if we need to override it? I need to run this past someone before I start rolling it out.

Oh and I'm considering making the template parameters lowercase, as is common with templates. I could implement a way for the template to accept both while I transition each use of the template to use lowercase. Worth doing? (Some of the parameters are already lowercase - messy!) --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 21:31, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

==#sonichu ban/the stuff I was going to post==

Hey Champ, any word on the issues we discussed? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:16, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
*Thanks for reminding me, I asked canine and he was going to talk to cogs but never heard back. I'll check with her though, though tonight isn't the best night to do it (long story). --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:31, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:*Not a problem mate, there's no rush. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 03:31, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::*Contact me ASAP, just need to clarify something. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:43, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

==Quick Question==

Got something to ask you real quick. Will you be on AIM/IRC tomorrow? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:57, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
*Actually I'm gonna be out of town, but I'll be back Monday night.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:48, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Glass vs Glasses ==

Wait what? Pretty sure glasses is what the majority of English speakers use when referring to a single pair of spectacles. It just looks stupid using "glass". --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:31, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

== Uhh...Champ? ==
You deleted the Facial Recognition talk page but not the page itself. Just saying. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:35, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

== A jerkop resignation letter ==

It appears that my furry background is raising a stir in /cwc/, and some people don't want me to post there. It does, however, bring another thing in my mind. I'd ask you to remove my jerkop bit. There's two reasons for this: First, if ''not'' having furries in positions of power helps some of the trolls to sleep better in the night, this course of action would help them. Secondly - and this is a far, far bigger reason - I'm not actually ''using'' the block/delete powers much, and having an account that needlessly has such powers is obviously a computer security risk. I don't think losing those rights would affect me that much as CWCki editor; I'm more concerned about site security and user happiness. Respectfully, --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 16:32, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
*I need to discuss this with Cogs first. I appreciate your selfless concern for the site but I'll be damned if /cwc/ tells me or Cogs how to run this site. What you do outside the CWCki is nobody's damn busy, to be honest. You are one of the finest CWCki editors we have, particularly because you have experience editing Wikipedia and I will not let you be intimidated by Internet fucktards at least on the CWCki. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:40, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
** Understood. I just have to add that this is one of those "last nail in the coffin" type things; like I said, the security issue is, in my opinion, ''far'' more important than the troll reaction. I'm thinking of all that ruckus that was caused by the hacked sysop accounts in Wikipedia a year or two ago. So please, if a policy needs to be made, it should be made on the security grounds, not trolling grounds. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 17:47, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
*** I saw the thread on the /cwc/ you are referring to. In my humble opinion, you shouldn't give them any power over what you do. If you identify with a paticular group on the internet, it's not important. You seem to be an important editor to this fine Wiki, so having a bit of power can't be wrong in your case. The opinions expressed by the "members" of the /cwc" imageboard aren't worth anything on the CWCkie. Also, an hacking attemp on your account seems highly unlikely if you don't let any clues on your password. But it's only my opinion on the matter, it ain't worth all that much.--[[User:Blacksky01|Blacksky01]]
**** I know. The whole situation in the thread was ridiculous. Me making the teensy bit of a mistake of being a namefag (I knew the pain threshold was low, but ''sheesh''), people spamming the thread with the (admittedly awful) drawings I drew years ago. (Careful readers might know that I ''specifically'' made a promise not to "spread the cancer" here. It applies to /cwc/ as well. But if the /cwc/ people wish to repost the godawful drawings, that's ''their'' headache.) The only real effect the thread has had on me, personally, is that I've tried to objectively evaluate some of the things that actually ''do'' suck: I mopped my user page of the rambling and put it in subpages, replaced some of the drawings on my home page (damn, those were old and awful) and I have to rethink the promotion strategies for my webcomic, since that is obviously not working. I still stand by the security concerns, but if Champ and Cogs don't think it's an issue, then I promise to not use the block/delete tools for anything heinous, as was the case before. =) --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 14:02, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

== Trouble in Asperpedia ==

I've just gotten confirmation that the recent confusion in Asperpedia is being caused by vandals [http://hsienko.com/asperchu/index.php?title=User_talk:IsabelMonday#HI_GOD_MORNING]. Now I know you've got no power over at Asperpedia, but if they've taken the admin accounts there's nothing they can really do, and I was hoping you might have connections with someone who could help take the site back. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:02, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
*Mao is a [[Wikipedia:trickster|trickster]], beware of his cunning. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:03, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
**Well if it's a trick, its still pissing me off. I just made a project proposal to him and he answers by deleting all the fan content. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:05, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
::*Have you considered the possibility he is TROLLING YOU BACK? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:07, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:::*Not if he was destroying everyone else's fan content. That's just too extreme for trolling one person. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:09, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
::::* Admins can undelete deleted content so it could be an elaborate troll. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 18:35, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::* I'm aware of that, in fact my first thought was that Mao was taking a piss all over me, until I saw he was deleting the entire fan portal and not just my content. I'll just have to wait and see what happens. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:36, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::*Wait, your telling me that this is the actual Mao doing this? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:01, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
As Champ said, you cannot rule that possibility out knowing Mao's traits. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 19:04, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, but I never thought Mao would do something like this. This is extreme even for him. And he's deleting Asperchu too. And he's talking about /b/ and people's passwords. And the toher admins are acting like that too. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:06, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
::* He set his password to '''password''' (no, seriously) and some asshat got in his account. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 19:47, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
::** *Facepalm* --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:57, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
{{quote|That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard! It's like what a moron would set on his luggage!|<s>Mel Brooks</s> Rick Moranis couldn't have said it any better.}}

==Talk pages==

I think we should start looking at temporary bans for user who continue to use article talk pages for personal discussion. It's out of control. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 03:19, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

* He edited his page to change someone's comment to something compromising. When I called him out on it, he did that to me too, and then faked my signature on another compromising comment. Then again, I "had it coming" as you said. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 03:24, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
*I don't like being involved in others peoples' problems but Delabonte is abusing his power while being hypocritical. look at the history in his talk page.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 03:50, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:*Delabonte is neither a jerkop or admin, he has no real powers aside from being here for a while. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:54, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

*I don't like it either. Not that I disapprove of the Not a Forum template--those are prefectly justified on any non-user talk page. There's usually a thread over on the appropriate channels anyway, so it's not like it's a big deal. I just don't understand why it should apply to user talk pages.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:04, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

:I was talking about '''article''' talk pages, not '''user''' talk pages, but out of respect for 16BitAlex I have removed the offending article from the talk page and put it on my userpage. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 04:05, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::Partly my fault for not reading fully. But, if it was truly out of respect you would have removed the "offending article". You are right on Not A Forum for ''article'' talk pages. If only there was a forum that CWCki users could use. In fact, there ''was'', until the powers that be at a certain private forum thought that a public forum was a bad idea. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 04:22, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::when i said abusing your power i didn't mean the "NOT a forum thing". i understand my mistake regarding that. what i meant was the editing anonymax's and 16alex's comments on your usertalk after you told alex he could not delete the vandalism from his userpage.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 04:40, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

:*Dudes, there's still [[Krapple|/cwc/]] and [[EDF]] (if you're totally desperate). Fuck, you can make your own forum, just don't go about declaring how you're gonna rip stuff off from PVCC or try to overtake PVCC. Fuck, hang out in [[Sonichu (IRC)|#sonichu]] and they'll let you in PVCC if you're not a faggot. Point is, CWCki isn't the place for this sort of talk - it's distracting and there's better places to do this.
::I mildly tolerate it since once people get warned, they (usually) tend to start and it's hard to keep track of repeat offenders. I think I've temporarily banned someone who was a repeat offender once but as I said, it's hard to keep track of people who do that sort of shit over again.
::I really haven't seen this as a huge problem on article talk pages, and in the past I have threatened bans for trivial discussing that was getting out of control but for one or two people commenting I can sorta deal with. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:54, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Champ, I think you should look into Delabonte again. I tried warning him about not starting a flame war, but he just started vandalizing other people's comments on his talk page. This kind of behavior isn't tolerated here. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 13:08, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
*Cogs has spoken to me, the issue has been resolved. As usual, in her favour. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 14:47, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

==I just counted==
For some reason, I'm doing this lately. You have, as of this writing, made 8925 edits to the CWCki, based on your contributions page. No joke. Thought you ought to know. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 00:29, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
*1) that's because I'm an admin, 2) most of my admins are me failing to preview and tiny shit 3) mostly talk page edits. Fun fact - my user page is the most linked page on CWCki because I comment on like every talk page. But yeah, I spend way too much time here. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:32, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

== Yo ==
Champ! Do us all a favour and ban JESUS would you? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:57, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

== You said to direct questions to you. So... ==
How in the fuck is that Coffee Place article a confirmed CWC sighting? Where in that photo is Chris or Bob, because I can't see shit? What does any of the text have to do with Chris or any sighting of any kind for that matter? Why does Clyde believe it's a confirmed CWC sighting? What evidence have we got? And why are you and Clyde so certain that this user's word alone can be trusted to the point of threatening bans for questioning them, when they haven't really given us any real proof of anything?

I really, really, REALLY hope that i'm just retarded and missing something obvious, because this makes NO sense to me whatsoever. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 02:03, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:shut the fuck up edward [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 02:06, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
*To clarify, I'll be glad to address any questions on a one-on-one basis in IRC or via AIM.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:07, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
**I've also got a question I need to ask you in IRC.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 02:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
*I can't use IRC. My computer fucks up whenever I try, and believe me I have tried. Why am I never allowed an actual answer when I ask a question? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 12:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
*You are thicker than liquid cement, Edward. Email me at origins.intervention@null.net so I can enlighten you. --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 16:11, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
*It's not sending. I keep trying to send a message and I keep getting a notification email telling me that they couldn't send it for some reason. Are you sure that's the right email address? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:30, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
**Can I cover this, Champ?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 17:52, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
::*Go ahead, or Jump is sure to enlighten you as well, Edward.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:58, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
***Try my alterate, the.new.chemical@gmail.com --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 18:32, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:I did actually maange to get a message through to Jump's alternate account. I'm waiting for his response right now. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:00, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

:Everything's sorted now. Thanks again Jump. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:54, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

== irc ==

<s>Yo, Champ, I'm trying to join #sonichu but I get a message that says the hostname could not be resolved, and when I do get in, it says I have to identify a registered name. I'm using Mibbit and I already have an account there, and whenever I use the link at our Mibbit article, there's no one on. What am I doing wrong? Sorry for being a total newfag.</s> nevermind, sorry for annoying you-[[User:Hiiro|Hiiro]] 17:08, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

==Ban me==

I'm evading a permaban. Jesus Christ. Do your fucking job, sandnigger.--[[User:JerryMathers|JerryMathers]] 00:03, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

== We need some clarification ==

On the community portal you said "do not interfere with Jenkins" which I simply took to mean "do not fuck with him" or "let him work on his report unimpeded." Delabonte, on the other hand, claims you meant zero communication and is putting up some userbox on everyone's page who posted on his talk page. All I did was point him to he userbox list after someone suggested it to him. Could you please clarify for everyone's sake what you specifically meant?

Also, I think the 'fuckwit alert' box is unwarranted; seriously, why would the PVCC care about a harmless mistake, let alone monitor such 'criminals'? And if I really had broken your rule, me and the other users would have been banned by now, wouldn't we? Some of those comments had already been put up for days without incident. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 04:49, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
*I took it to mean "Don't do anything that doesn't appear to be approved". I followed that to the letter and I intend to follow the proper instructions now that I've been notified. However, I think the userbox was an overreaction.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 05:16, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

I think your userboxes are very fitting and you wear them well. [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 05:55, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

*As we want Jenkins to keep up the good work, the idea is more of the former - to not hinder his work, i.e. not to post too many praises on his talk page. I'm not sure what's been going on as I've been out the past two days or so, but I'm guessing people may have lost control and completely praised Jenkins, especially for getting a seinor cheerleader. I can understand where Delabonte is coming from but srsly, don't be a dumbass when it comes to this sort of thing.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

==Regarding the 'Relics of fail' items.==
Right now, out of 26 different relics, a total of 10 of them have the suffix "of fail". I think that the 'of fail' tag on the end of many of the items is a bit stale. Not only does it make them all seem generic and without personality, but 'of fail' just seems kind of juvenile. I'd like to start a vote to change the majority of the names to give them more flair, so they stand out more. Talked about it in IRC a few nights ago, and the consensus seemed to agree. One of the names thrown around was to change "Plush Boobs of Fail" into something along the lines of "Plush Boobs of Repressed Sexuality." Give them names that indicate their use, descriptors that tell you about the item before you even read about it. "Pokewalker of Sloth" or "Pokewalker of Inactivity". Even if the 'of fail' tag is supposed to indicate that Chris created it himself, there's no reason for the Plush Boobs and Sailor Moon Poster to have it included. Let me know what you think. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 06:55, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I concur with Brofose. Fail has become a bit of a lame old meme, and while it is one of the most apt words to describe anything about CWC, I believe the Relics would do well to be assigned new titles. [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 07:08, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

:I don't really mind the "of fail" but I wouldn't miss it either.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 12:30, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I think this sounds like a pretty good idea. Perhaps we should consider some kind of formal way to do this. Like, we could have something in the community portal for users to suggest new suffixes, then from those like 5 favorites are picked out and a poll is taken for the new suffix. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 22:00, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for pointing that out. Also, I'd like to talk to you about something regarding some recent edits. [[User:CrassCrab|CrassCrab]] 19:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

CWCki:Policy

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ThatMan: /* Harassment and NPOV */

CWCki:Policy

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ThatMan: /* Just who decides what's worthy? */

Talk:Main Page

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ThatMan:

{{protip|This talk page should serve as a place to discuss improving the overall front page of CWCki. For discussion on improvements to CWCki overall, please see the [[CWCki:Community Portal|Community Portal]]. For discussing individual front page templates, please refer to the discussion pages of those templates.}}

""Wait, what?"" - I read the changes to Chris' blog- girlfriend?! What do we think folks- a troll, or entirely fictional? I'm inclined to go with the latter, since every time Chris even so much as has a woman not completely blow him off he is screaming it from the rooftops. Should we ask him in the mailbag if this is finally the end of his Love Quest? Is this Lovely Weather, or Chloe? So many questions! -- Ronichu (the TRUE and ORIGINAL Rosechu/Sonichu hybrid character, do not steal!)

'''Archives''': [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|1]]

Mailbag 41 is up. Also, there are now a glorious Asperchu-related YouTube video embedded on the top half of the page. Nice one!

== New Article of the now/discussion page cleanup ==
The article of the now hasn't changed in awhile. May I choose a new one? Also, can someone clean up this discussion page? '''These topics are OLD and should be deleted:''' Lock this page Someone with move rights... 25 Days without an outrage my ass! 
== Lock this page ==
I think it is about time that this page is locked so only admins can edit it.--[[User:Blachman|Blachman]] 18:59, 23 September 2009 (CEST)

*Seconded. Very seconded. [[User:LStaley416|LStaley416]] 19:01, 23 September 2009 (CEST)
*To be fair, the reason why it's unlocked is because in my opinion, I know that I'm proned to fucking shit up when I tinker with the front page and people might actually want to add something neat to the front page. I understand the concern due to recent vandalism, so if others users feel this way, then the front page will be locked. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:05, 23 September 2009 (CEST)
*Is it possible to change the new user creation so it requires admin approval? That'd make it harder for faggots to simply sign up and vandalize the place, you could make them go through the IRC channel or something. Of course, that goes against the idea of a wiki being open to editing, but there's not really a nice way of stopping vandalism. [[User:SirCucumber|SirCucumber]] 19:27, 23 September 2009 (CEST)
:*CWCki, as I see it, strives to be open and people should be encouraged to edit it. Going into IRC shouldn't really be a prerequisite of CWCki. Some people don't like IRC and that's fine. Frankly, we're not really in a position to restrict users. As cogs said, she's working on installing an extension which will can easily spot vandalism and reverse it instantly since Cogs, myself, and Clyde can't monitor CWCki every single second. There's some really neat stuff bots can do with MediaWiki in respect to vandalism. But anyways, any wiki is subject to vandalism, but we learn to handle it and hopefully an extensions and maybe an anti-vandalism patrol will help. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:34, 23 September 2009 (CEST)
*well, it's only one person, and the vandalism is fairly regular. i think granting some users anti-vandalism powers and possibly installing an extension will do. --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 19:43, 23 September 2009 (CEST)

== Someone with move rights... ==

...plz move Main Page/Archive 1 to [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1]]. What happens in Talk: should stay in Talk:, and people who (for example) whack [[Special:Random]] should be spared from these ramblings =) --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 19:59, 23 September 2009 (CEST)
*Good point, sometimes I miss small details like that D:. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:34, 23 September 2009 (CEST)

Chris has uploaded pages 84[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Image:SchuComic9P84.jpg] and 85[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Image:SchuComic9P85.jpg] Someone with rights update kthnxbai [[User:Sandworm|Sandworm]] 00:44, 25 November 2009 (CET)

== Streamlining ==

There are a few modifications that I think the front page really needs. Namely, there needs to be an area that links to all the general areas most important to understanding Chris, such as the comics, the videos, the troll sagas, the CWCisms, etc. I recommend replacing the links in the "CWC Canon" with this. Do we really need a direct link to [[How the Pokémon came into Our Poke Balls]]? --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 00:00, 1 December 2009 (CET)
*The thing is, those are texts directly written by Chris himself. It's like, the direct word of Chris while everything else is merely commentary. Personally, I think Chris's Wikipedia page is like the perfect introduction to hear how fucked up Chris is from Chris himself for those who are uninitiated. However, I think it might be handy to have like a "Essentials" box of key articles.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:29, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

== 25 Days Without an Outage, My Ass! ==

That is all. --[[User:Tristran|Tristran]] 01:24, 11 December 2009 (CET)

== CWCipedia Tracker needs to be updated ==

The CWCipedia Tracker needs to be updated so it says thatChris answered the letters in Mailbag 24. Also, it probably should say he fell for a tranny.
:...Then update it.
:Also, sign your posts.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:20, 30 December 2009 (CET)
:: Done with care and just for you, dear Anonymous!!! [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 04:22, 30 December 2009 (CET)
:::And that is why Griffintown is a better person than me--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:44, 30 December 2009 (CET)

== Suggestions for video of the now ==
Idk if this is a good place to do this, tell me if it is or not, I'm kinda new to this wiki, and wiki's in general, but [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxdvUwhg7jg Christian Weston Chandler CWC Sonichu's confession] [[User:Toughdog6789|Toughdog6789]] 06:15, 3 January 2010 (CET)
*Link fixed. Meh, seems long and tedious. I couldn't get through it. --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 06:42, 3 January 2010 (CET)
:*It's pretty lulzy at the end. --[[User:Toughdog6789|Toughdog6789]] 07:06, 3 January 2010 (CET)
*Another suggestion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3bvd0XIMZU--[[User:Toughdog6789|Toughdog6789]] 22:38, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:*This was already the video of the now around 30 December or so. Also in the future, please go [[:Template talk:Video of the now|here]] to suggest videos for the Video of the now.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:18, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
*found this thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLHtpVY3lhQ&feature=related just suggesting ,[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 23:10, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

==Missed Comic days==
Should we really count the days that the CWCipedia was down against him? He couldn't upload pages, yet the situation was his damn fault anyway. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 13:11, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
:* I think we should include that as missed comic days. It's not like he uploaded extra comics to make up for it. --[[User:Morganna|Morganna]] 13:47, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
*I was thinking of maybe adding an asterisk next to the missing page count with note mentioning the outage time. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:30, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

==what the fuck?==
www.sonichu.com now redirects to some stupid shit about asperchu or something. isn't www.sonichu.com supposed to redirect to here?--[[User:Toughdog6789|Toughdog6789]] 19:24, 8 January 2010 (UTC) (forgot to sign when i originally posted, sorry)
*Okay, two things. First of all, it's probably for the best. It'll help keep Chris from finding the site (if he hasn't already, that is, in the case that he has then at least he won't be able to find it anymore since the URL change) and also because Chris will be pissed if he finds out. He despises Asperchu, and the thought that it's growing bigger than Sonichu and is using him to garner popularity will probably make him tard rage. Second of all, sign your fucking posts. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 01:53, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
:*It really doesn't fucking matter if Chris finds CWCki or not, he probably doesn't give a shit and won't believe it. Second of all, everyone loves Asperchu, and Alec Benson Leary is doing to the Sonichu comics what Liquid did for Chris's videos. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:08, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
::*I thought the Sonichu.com redirect was fucking brilliant. Prove to Chris that Alec Benson Leary is better than him in every possible way.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:11, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Chris already knows about the CWCki. He blanked the front page once whining about it and was promptly banned. [[User:Evang|Evang]] 06:16, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
::::I thought that was a white knight.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:39, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::Wasn't chris. Chris probably looked at this and thought UGH TOO MANY WORDS and quit. but yeah asperchu is the next big thing. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 06:42, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::That's the story I have heard. He said the proverbial TL;DR and left. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 06:59, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Actually Griffintwon, you're thinking of the story of when Chris found /cwc/. He couldn't even attempt to post the because there were "too many words" and the page's background hurt his eyes. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 22:42, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

==Okay==

Why the fuck isn't the main page protected? [[User:ArizonaBay|ArizonaBay]] 05:48, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
*What the fuck was with the whole "Chris-chan is dead guiz, srsly" on the front page? [[User:NasuGrave|NasuGrave]] 21:50, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
*1) because people, in theory, should be allowed to improve the main page, 2) we're getting pretty good at stopping vandalism in the race occurrences it happens. Also, to address NasuGrave, I imagine this is some faggot who thinks LULZ ROFLMAO in saying that Chris is dead and giving credit to his shitty troll persona no one gives a shit about. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:52, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
**[[User:Cchandlersonichu]] here you are champ. [[User:ArizonaBay|ArizonaBay]] 05:53, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
***[[User:Gutcruncher]]. [[User:ArizonaBay|ArizonaBay]] 05:56, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Gutcruncher looks safe, but we'll keep an eye all new accounts for a while. Good night and good luck, all --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 06:35, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
I just blocked a user called "Therealccwc" out of the CWCki. I guess our vandal is out in the cold. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 06:39, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
== Front page vandalized. ==

Does this happen often? [[User:Fefnir|Fefnir]] 05:56, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

*No. This faggotry is a rare occurrence. Just bear with it. [[User:ArizonaBay|ArizonaBay]] 05:57, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

*Yeah, I thought so. Well, It's all fixed up anyways. [[User:Fefnir|Fefnir]] 06:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

===Page protection===

I strongly avoid second guessing my fellow admins but I feel that Clyde may have reacted too strongly to the current vandalism. In theory, I think if someone wants to edit the front page, they should be allowed to do so, as people could genuinely have valid contributions. I'm protecting it for two weeks so the current vandals will probably get it's a bad idea to vandalize the CWCki by that time. 
I think that front page vandalism is a rare occurrence, the last time this happened was back in October and we've been fine since then so I personally disagree with permanently protecting the front page (after all, we're not CWCipedia :3). However, if people want to talk about permanently protecting the page, let's open the discussion and I will be glad to permanently protect the page if this truly reflects the needs and wishes of the CWCki community. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:21, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
*Huh, turns out I can block new users from editing pages. I'll consult Cogs to see what constitutes a "new" user because if that's the case, I think our best option would just to block new users from editing the main page which pretty much rules out vandals.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:43, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
**no you're stupid champ, no one has edited the front page to make it contain anything useful besides you [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 07:46, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
::*NO U. Also, you did :p. And in theory, someone could make things look cooler in ways neither you nor I could. Anyways, since I know when to pick my battles, if you have an idea for the front page, post it on this talk page. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:49, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

==Shirts==
[[User:Kynes|Kynes]] has been doing some good work on Chris's [[Chris and Fashion|shirts]], and I noticed there is some white space (well, green space) on the main page, so here's a quick little shirt tracker if anybody's interested! --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 00:01, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
{{Shirt of the Now
|file= Christshirt4.png
|name = Advice Dog
|date = 12 [[January 2010]]
|counter = three}}

* Yes, please. It would be interesting (in a horrifying sense, of course) to know how long his shirts have been marinating in his bodily odors and fluids before he finally decides to change his clothes a week later.--[[User:Miss Noel|Noel Ari Paige]] 14:40, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

== Mailbag 41 ==

It's up already, Chris is probably going to go fucking crazy since every single one is either criticizing him or praising Asperchu. I bet he deletes 3/4's of it. [[User:Sandworm|Sandworm]] 01:52, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

==Hardlinks to Old CWCki==
[http://www.cogsdev.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&target=http%3A%2F%2Fcogsdev.110mb.com%2Fcwcki%2F&namespace=0 Check it out]

The only hardlinks left are ones that originate in '''Template:Christory''' pages for dates that haven't been added yet. If somebody wants to be a TRUE hero, they should start going through those templates for hardlink instances and fixing them. --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 02:18, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

== Spanish ==

I wanna translate the pages to spanish .. how Where edit this...{{unsigned|hematofilo}}
*For now, if you really want to translate pages to Spanish, I'd make subpages in the time being until we could work out a Spanish namespace. For instance, put your translation for [[Christian Weston Chandler]] to [[Christian Weston Chandler/Spanish]]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:49, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
*What. [[User:Artiph|Artiph the Destroyer, Omniscient Archmage, bearer of the Grimoire of Destruction, whose powers by and large surpass that of the Great Wizard CrassCrab, Lord of the Seven Realm and Master of the Archane Black Arts of the Eleventh Trans-Dimensional Vortex]] 17:12, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

==Quote of the Now request==
"How old do you think I am? [[Lie|I am not an immature child]]; I am 27 years old." From [[Mailbag 45]]. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 01:15, 27 January 2010 (UTC) 
"I have already donated a healthy sum into the funds that have exceeded $57 million." Even better. Apparently he doesn't need his monthly tugboat after all! --[[User:JM1987|JM1987]] 21:21, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

People, if it's a decent quote, you're welcome to update [[:Template:Quote of the now|the template]] yourself. If it sucks, I'll revert it, if not, I'll keep it. By the way JM, I think he's not saying he's donated $57 million, just that he's donated to a fund that has raised this much. Poor wording, yes, but not totally fail wording. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:27, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

:*Thanks, didn't realize it was a template. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 21:55, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

:*And neither did I. Also, cheers Champthom, it really is bad wording, and I was doubting Chris-chan would make even ''that'' big a lie. --[[User:JM1987|JM1987]] 00:58, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

== Front page templates ==

So this page isn't clogged up with "Hay, [x] should have [y]", here are links to front page templates:
*[[Template:Picture of the now]]
*[[Template:Video of the now]]
*[[Template:Quote of the now]]

Article of the now is protected, but feel free to suggest articles on the [[Template talk:Article of the now|talk page]].

If your suggestion sucks, I'll revert it, if not, I'll keep it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:48, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

== Removing the outage thing ==

If there's no outage by the end of the month, I'm going to delete the outage counter from the header. It's served us well but since we have a new server, I don't think outages will be a problem anymore. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:12, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

== Chris has discovered this Wiki ==

Is that good or bad? --[[User:Ninjaclown|Ninjaclown]] 05:42, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

*Depends. Do you like to be attacked in YouTube videos? If so, then it's a good thing. CWCki is just the latest in a long line of things Chris blames for his life other than himself. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 05:59, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

:*This talk page should be used to discuss the improvement of the main page. Talk about CWCki goes in [[CWCki:Community Portal|here]]. I've started a discussion [[CWCki:Community_Portal#So_Chris_has_discovered_the_CWCki_.28finally.29|here]] to discuss this topic.

::It very well could start into a saga but good sagas are never planned. I plan on making a video to defend the honor of the CWCki and we'll see where it goes from there.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:52, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

== Countdown to TROUBLE? ==

What do you all think of getting a timer on the front page that counts down to midnight EST tonight? And maybe after midnight passes, and we haven't all been eaten by the ghost of Patti, a timer that counts how overdue the TROUBLE is? (Or did he mean midnight of Thursday/Friday? Dammit, even his precision is imprecise!) --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 18:06, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
*He just postponed it to the 31st, but I could put something like that in the CWCipedia Tracker. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 09:53, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

In about 24 hours the deadline will be up. Chris will hopefully put up another "TAKE DOWN THAT SITE!" video, not like he can do much else. Of course we may want to keep tabs on the pages in question just in case Chris decides to edit them himself. --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 03:39, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

*I'm pretty sure the relevant articles are locked to editing. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 05:10, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
:*I think the plan is to document and revert any edits Chris might make. He does have a major tendency to blab information when he doesn't mean to, and that plays right into our hands. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 05:14, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
::*I have to agree. Trouble? This is Tarditude delivered to our doorsteps! Besides, I have yet to see Chris's personal army attempting something against the CWCki. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:18, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

*Main threat, IMHO, is white knights and other faggots who want to give into Chris's demands to get Chris's attention for various reasons, or just to troll us all. In any case, pages are locked.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:23, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

== Replace CWCipedia Tracker with PSTripple Tracker ==

I think it would be more active than the CWCipedia tracker for sure... [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 15:36, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
* Heh. One way or the other, yeah, the CWCipedia tracker has just about outlived its usefulness. I dunno if "Chris got four more trophies in Heavy Rain today" is really main page-worthy, but there might be something that could occupy the space more effectively now. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 16:15, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
* We can go with that. At the same time, go ahead and keep the CWCipedia tracker around just in case he (*GASP*) ''decides to update!'' Pfft. Should turn it into an Asperchu tracker.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 16:20, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
* Whatever he does after CWCipedia, we can convert it into that. Until then, a PS3 tracker is probably more useful... --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 18:04, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
* First, let's wait for confirmation that Chris dumping CWCipedia. There's a remote chance he'll actually come back. Until then, let's keep it around. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:58, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
* Yeah- he's actually fighting to revert. I'm impressed with him. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 18:59, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
*Are the changes to the CWCipedia saved somehow? A timeline could be made with those dates.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 20:03, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
**Looks like he's still updating it from time to time. Also, where can I find the PS3 tracker?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 03:19, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
***It was no surprise that his recent announcement that he was leaving the internet forever was a total lie. We all knew he wouldn't stay off the internet for long. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 04:13, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

== I just noticed... ==

There are still a few items on the Cwcipedia main page that Chris hasn't removed/noticed. The "Did you know..." section under the Twitter feed reads things like:

* ...that Christian Weston Chandler is still looking for a joy-boy?
* ...that Rosechu is a shallow character who cheats on Sonichu with Magi-chan?
* ...that Christian Weston Chandler likes it rough from men with hairy bums?
* ...that Christian Weston Chandler drinks semen?

How long does anyone think it'll take for him to notice that his own site is mocking him?

-- [[Aldrasio]]

:I don't know, Aldrasio. I just don't know. --[[User:Blunderscore|Blunderscore]] 01:04, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

== new chris vid ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyUey1YLbb8&feature=player_embedded# I dunno how to ad it
* I did it. It's all set up for someone to TRANSCRIBE DIS BITCH! --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 23:04, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I just noticed that Chris changes the catogories on his youtube videos,selecting comedy for certain ones, to non profits & activism on others and so on. Should this be included in the CWCki video descriptions ? -- [[User:DamianAntaria|DamianAntaria]]

== CWCipedia has a problem ==

The site is experiencing technical difficulties. It seems like it's been like that all day. Is it worth adding to the tracker?

--[[User:Aldrasio|Aldrasio]] 00:57, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

:It's just 110 MB going down again. But sure, why not.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 01:07, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

== We're back. ==

After a 2 day outage, the CWCki has returned. Enjoy. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 00:05, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

I dunno what you're talking about; I never had an issue accessing the site. Pics or didn't happen. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 00:06, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:Some people got their IPs blocked for unintended spamming requests. This message is for those people. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 00:07, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

==Daily comic update tally: number of days delivered?==

Being that Chris promised to update every day and not just to produce like 365.25 or whatever pages a year, it might be interesting to tally up the number of days he actually delivered along with the number of days he missed. I don't have the authority to edit the front page, but as of today it's like 43. Out of 187. Which is like 23%. Which is [http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:485-CWCsF.JPG an F]. —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 16:51, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
*Technically it's slightly better than that, as he stopped that policy in like February. I'm pretty sure he still would have failed on a normal grading scale, though. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 23:37, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
:*Right, that. I'm confused. There were only 103 days from 14 November 2009 to 24 February 2010 and as of this writing the tracker says that the count ended on 24/2/09 ''and'' that he's missed 146, but that number's consistent with a count continuing for the 189 days completed from 14/11/09 to today. Should that be redacted and finalized somehow? I mean, everyone knew he wasn't going to do what he said he'd do, but it's interesting to see the [[Fail|final statistics]]. All I did to calculate his percentage was subtract the stated days missed from the total number of days and then divide by the total number of days times 100%, but I guess I don't know what the number of days missed was on 24 February. If he consistently hasn't updated the comic for the 88 days since 24/2/10, I guess it would be 43 / 103 * 100% ≈ 42%, which is, I dunno, an F+ I guess. —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 18:35, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

==Flipnote Hatena Tracker==

Since almost every recent Chris update has been on Flipnote Hatena, I was thinking that perhaps we should create a template to be used exclusively to list his contributions to that site, much like the old CWCipedia tracker. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 01:44, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page

2010-05-21T23:37:10Z

ThatMan: /* Daily comic update tally: number of days delivered? */

Talk:Marijuana

2010-05-14T02:37:00Z

ThatMan: /* Deletion */

==Deletion==

WTF this page is all about? I don't see it's use on the CWCki. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:28, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:I support its deletion --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 20:05, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::Delete this garbage.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 21:02, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::*Moon plz. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 22:36, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Delete this shit from CWCki. --[[User:Famicon64|Famicon64]] 01:07, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Definitely needs deleted, serves no purpose, Chris has never mention pot, etc. etc. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 02:36, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

== Move to Asperpedia ==

The Moon-Pals category could use this article.-[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 01:48, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Marijuana

2010-05-14T02:36:36Z

ThatMan: /* Deletion */

==Deletion==

WTF this page is all about? I don't see it's use on the CWCki. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:28, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:I support its deletion --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 20:05, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::Delete this garbage.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 21:02, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::*Moon plz. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 22:36, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Delete this shit from CWCki. --[[User:Famicon64|Famicon64]] 01:07, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Definitely needs delted, serves no purpose, Chris has never mention pot, etc. etc. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 02:36, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

== Move to Asperpedia ==

The Moon-Pals category could use this article.-[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 01:48, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Talk:For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV

2010-04-26T02:59:16Z

ThatMan: /* Bra size */

So... where's the video?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:48, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
*It's the video of the now. I'm no good with the new fangled video template, so you guys can sort it out. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:49, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:*I see it an OH I AM SO FUCKING '''TRANSCRIBING DIS BITCH!!!'''--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:50, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:A few things we need to do from what I can tell.
::1. <s>Put up a fucking warning label on this bitch (came damn close to vomiting)</s>
::2. <s>Add the new shirt to Chris and Fashion</s> --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 05:03, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
*Completely agreed about the warning. This is the most disturbing thing I've seen in a long time (and I just finished EVA two days ago).--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 05:28, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:* Done. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 05:46, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
==Transcribing==

I will assist Beat with transcribing, if he needs my help. Other projects will have to wait. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 05:05, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:First half done. My first watchthrough is the one I transcribe on, something tells me this won't end well.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 05:19, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::* That's what I do too. It helps I think, but it also means you get rude surprises. Like the cyber in Mumble 3. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 05:34, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::WHAT THE FUCK SHIT DAMN I HATE YOU ALL--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 05:22, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:::* Oh my God. I don't know if I want to know now, if it can shake the almighty Beat. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 05:34, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::::*Ron you transcribed the Mumbles so you can probably take this. However, I wouldn't push yourself if your heart level is below 40% --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 05:36, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::::*Beat- EJECT! EJECT! EJECT! -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 05:38, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::* IT IS DONE. That could have been a lot worse.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 05:40, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::* You deserve a fucking medal for that one, man. --[[User:HatMcCullough|HatMcCullough]] 05:43, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::*Admittedly I skimmed over the details of his tongue movements. If somebody wants to provide a more in-depth explanation, I suggest you seek counseling immediately.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 05:44, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::*Beat, you are THE MAN! Yes, you deserve a bloody medal. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:58, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::*Sometimes I am annoyed I never get to transcribe anything new because of my timezone. Sometimes I am very, very glad. Still, I'll touch it up tonight, no matter what the tiny whisper that was my sanity begs me to avoid. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 06:05, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::*Ronichu's work ethic never ceases to amaze. I only wish He did not have to suffer so much for it.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:11, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::* Truly a god among men. I take my hat off to you.--[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 08:57, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

== Problem with brackets? ==

When I edited this article, the brackets were removed from two words (such as [[glasses]] or [[CWCki]]) during both of the edits. The hell? --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 15:31, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:* CWCki was mentioned, but not bracketed, in the intro at the time. I couldn't find a logical explanation for the glasses bracket, though. Either the Wiki glitched or it was ninjas. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 19:08, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::* I think it might've been ninjas. The sneaky bastards. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 19:28, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

== Date ==

Da Update states this video was leaked on the 21st, this article states the 22nd. The CWCVilleLibrary account has the upload date as the 21st. I r confuse. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 20:43, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

==No shit is too minor ==

We need to identify what his ringtone is. --[[User:Exemplary|Exemplary]] 23:12, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
* This is probably obvious, but I figured it's worth mentioning that I'm pretty sure it's from a Sonic game. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 00:44, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
** Haven't played a Sonic game in years, but it kind of sounds like Casino Night Zone.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 07:14, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

==Bra size==
Just to put on record, 42 is his band size, not his cup size, so it's hard to say how big his manboobs are. ...but they're bigger than mine, and I'm an A cup. [[User:BubblegumPinkButler|BubblegumPinkButler]] 02:24, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
* Well, using the page image and this chart[http://lingerie.lovetoknow.com/Bra_Size_Chart] as references, I'd guess he's a C. Maybe a D, if the sports bra is squishing his boobs. [[User:Schismtracer|Schismtracer]] 02:59, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
* During the muscle bra photo set back in October, Chris mentioned his size to be 43...is this an accurate size, or a misconception by Chris? And now it's a 42. Is this evidence that he's actually lost a little weight? Not a huge deal, but again, no shit is too minor.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 06:25, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
** He measured 43 inches in October, but he purchased size 42 bras. They only come in even-numbered sizes, and I'm sure he choose the smaller size for better holding power. (As for his weight, he looks like he's packed on a few more pounds, not lost some.) Did anyone else notice the weird gleam of pride in his eyes when he said he has a 42 bust? Jesus titty-fucking christ. [[User:Squirrelbait|Squirrelbait]] 08:02, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
***Not knowing much about bra sizes myself, I have to ask. How big is a C or D cup? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:01, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:::* It's all relative, really, depending on the size of the torso they're attached to. If the circumference of the torso at the nipples is three inches greater than the circumference just below the breasts, that's a C cup. D cup is four inches difference. So on a woman who's in good shape, a D cup approaches porn star proportions, but Chris's floppers could easily be D-sized because he's so fucking fat. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 21:45, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
* Bigger than mine too, I was coming here to bitch about that...considering that it's a sports bra, it's possible that he's referring to the sizes on the sports bra packages rather than actual bust measurement. I have a hard time imagining that he'd do all this[http://www.ehow.com/how_2311500_measure-bust-size-sports-bra.html] to get an accurate measurement. I'm horribly unfamiliar with exactly how sports bras are sized, but if he's really got a 43" bust, then he might be a DD[http://www.enell.com/size_and_measurement_chart.php]. - [[User:Boop|Boop]] 00:48, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
**There's a fair chance it's accurate as he made some lucky WalMart employee measure his bust for him. Granted, I guess it's entirely possible that they just did it quickly and inaccurately just so they could get it over with. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 02:59, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Talk:For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV

2010-04-23T00:44:20Z

ThatMan: /* No shit is too minor */

Liquid Chris

2010-04-08T15:09:11Z

ThatMan: /* Prologue */

{{Improve|massive reorganization|Expand the subtopics under the ''Liquid Saga'' for great justice. Add details and citations}}

{{Protip|If you're going to call Chris "Ian", do so only in the context of this saga.}}

[[Image:CChanSonichuCWC.jpg|thumb|If you look hard, you can see the TRUE, HONEST Sonichu medallion.]]

'''Liquid Chris''' (born 24 [[February 1982]]) is the '''TRUE and HONEST Christian Weston Chandler''' (ORIGINAL IDENTITY - DO NOT STEAL) and creator of the Electric Hedgehog Pokemon, [[Sonichu]].

==Prologue==
[[June 2009]] was a busy month for [[Christian]] (henceforth '''Solid Chris'''), with new highs and lows. Solid was getting out of the house more and knocking back some Long Islands with a new group of acquaintances. He was given the keys to his shiny new [[CWCipedia]] and had his YouTube account "CChanSonichu" compromised. Yes, he was Rollin' and Trollin' indeed.

{{quote|And I'm nowadays wearing a vest and improving my image.|Solid Chris, [[REAL Protest against the FAKE]]}}

==Liquid Saga==

===The Belligerents===
[[Image:Torture.jpg|Liquid Chris torturing the imposter|thumb]]

====A Challenger Appears====

:''See Also: [[CChanSonichuCWC Videos, June-July 2009#Antebellum|Liquid's Antebellum Videos]]''

At the end of the month a new YouTube account, [http://www.youtube.com/user/CChanSonichuCWC CChanSonichuCWC], appeared with a simple premise: that the ''real'' Christian Weston Chandler (henceforth '''Liquid Chris''') was back online after a long absence, during which he lost his account to hackers, so all the weirdness on "CChanSonichu" was the work of hacking trolls, and he announced that he was ready to resume posting HONEST content on his new account. This new CWC posted four more videos, much of which were parodies of earlier videos by Solid Chris.

{{quote|How else would I get fan art, if I was not the original creator of Sonichu?|Liquid Chris, [[CChanSonichuCWC_Videos,_June-July_2009#Update:_I_am_Still_the_Real_Christian_Weston_Chandler_Despite_LIES_AND_SLANDER._Also.2C_Some_Fan_Art|3 July 2009]]}}

Notably, Liquid Chris sported:
*A paper Sonichu medallion
*A striped shirt (brown)
*Pedo-glasses
*Obesity (by means of a stuffed shirt)
*Autism

which of course made him almost [[Chris and Reality|''indistinguishable'']] from Solid Chris! Solid himself made no comment, probably because he didn't notice the new videos among the chatter of all the other trolling. The alternative--that Solid just ignored them--is far too reasonable to consider.

====Ian Brandon Anderson====
:''Main Article: [[Ian Brandon Anderson]]
:''See also: [[The July 10th_Messages]]
:''See also: [[Rollin' and Trollin']]

What really cranked this up to eleven was a chain of events that started with Solid Chris getting his "CChanSonichu" channel back: First, Solid posted a series of videos on 10 [[July 2009]] where he "called out" three trolls by their YouTube handles, and dropped their docs (well, dropped "supposed states of residence"). That resulted in the permanent banhammer for "CChanSonichu."

The next piece fell into place when he posted his [[Rollin' and Trollin']] video on his new YouTube account, "IBAChandler." When it hit Encyclopedia Dramatica, newfags everywhere momentarily lost control of their bowels, thinking they'd been trolled by a grand master. Trolls, however, did what trolls do best: they started riffing on it. Pretty quickly, YouTube comments popped up referring to Solid as "Ian Brandon Anderson." Such was the price of success for Solid's small drop of near win, in his sea of epic fail: he had delivered unto his enemies a weapon that they'd use for months.

Even then, the damage control from that episode alone would probably have kept him from noticing Liquid's videos. Until that is, Liquid raised the stakes in an attempt to get Solid's attention.

===CWCivil War Begins===
[[Image:Honest-and-true.jpg|thumb|right|TRUTH and HONESTY established by the state of [[Virginia]]!!]]
:''See Also: [[CChanSonichuCWC Videos, June-July 2009#The CWCivil|Liquid's CWCivil War Videos]]''

The war began on 21 July, when Liquid uploaded a video that reeled Solid in, hook, line and sinker, having sold Sonichu Merchandise with [[Samantha Thaddeus]] at Otakon. A rebuttal was in order:

{{quotebox|DO NOT BUY from the Impostor, "[http://www.youtube.com/user/CChanSonichuCWC CWCCChanSonichuCWC]". HE IS CRAPPY, and his Nasal Voice is JUST DOWNRIGHT AWFUL.

Also, if I wanted to buy PAPER, I'd go to [[Wal-Mart]] and buy 500 FULL 8.5 X 11 Sheets for about 5 dollars!

HIS CHURCH? HE MUST LIVE IN FRICKIN' OHIO with "[[Julie]]"; NEVER DRIVES GREATER THAN 7 Hours JUST TO EVEN VISIT [[Wesley Memorial]] in [[VIRGINIA]].

F*** HIM TO HELL!<ref>[[REAL Protest against the FAKE]]</ref>}}

Solid also took time out from his busy schedule to post threats on Liquid's YouTube comments:

{{quotebox|'''The Final Showdown'''

Hey, DUMBASS! YOU WISH YOU WERE ME! I would say YOU are Stuck... IN MINUS-SECOND-GEAR!

I am Calling YOU OUT!

14 Branchland Ct. Ruckersville, VA
BEFORE August 2, 2009.
If you really WANT to be me, then Come Face Me.

oh, BTW, YOUR NASAL VOICE IS MORE GRATING THAN THE WORD "NAIVE", and METAL NAILS ON THE CHALKBOARD.

But "Naive" is even WORSE than NAILS.

You are a Nerd and a Whimp!

Have a good day. 
Christopher Christian Weston Chandler<ref>[[REAL Protest against the FAKE]]</ref>}}

Even at this point, Solid Chris still may have let this all go, as he was simultaneously getting blackmailed by [[Jack Thaddeus]], who was holding his PSN account to ransom. But as that wound down, Liquid caught Solid's eye again, by picking up on the Ian Brandon Anderson meme:

{{quotebox|Hello, again, Loyal Fans,

It is I again, Christian Weston Chandler. NOT Christopher Christian Weston Chandler as EVERYONE KNOWS I Changed my name FROM Christopher to Christian (PS: That Troll, as Some have now Informed Me, his Real Name is IAN BRANDON ANDERSON). Anyway, I am Working Very Hard on Sonichu 9 and Things may be Progressing Heavily with my new TRUE Gal-Pal Kacey and I. Also, Expect more Announcements of this Developing Caliber in the Future.

Stay True.

CWC<ref>[[CChanSonichuCWC_Videos,_June-July_2009#Christian_Weston_Chandler.27s_EXCITING_ANNOUNCEMENT_of_SONICHU_and_Addressing_Things.| Christian Weston Chandler's EXCITING ANNOUNCEMENT of SONICHU and Addressing Things.]]</ref>}}

==The Battleground==

====More Than A Feeling====
[[Image:CWCvsIanGuitar.jpg|thumb|The REAL Chris is not only cute, he can play the guitar!]]
:''See Also: [[CWC More Than A Feeling]]''
:''See Also: [[CChanSonichuCWC_Videos,_June-July_2009#More_Than_A_Feeling_THE_TRUE_VERSION_by_Christian_Weston_Chandler_.28CWC.29|More Than A Feeling THE TRUE VERSION by Christian Weston Chandler (CWC)]]
For whatever reason, Solid dug up an old video of himself failing at Guitar Hero and dumped it online. Liquid shot back with a TRUE and HONEST rendition on a real guitar.

====Spanish Challenge====
[[Image:Cestnepas.jpg|thumb|Ceci n'est pas une Chris]]
:''Main Article: [[CWC Update 29 July 2009]]''
More [[I Am The TRUE, Original CCWC|video rage]] followed, before Solid attempted a cunning plan:

{{quote|También. Mi presente. Responde en español bueño. ¿Si no que bueño? Tu no eres el verdad. Tu eres el impostor.|Solid Chris, ''[[CWC Update 29 July 2009]]''}}

The plan backfired when Liquid responded more fluently in Spanish, French, German, and Japanese.

====SingStar Challenge====
[[Image:Tgtdfw4.jpg|thumb|Only one clear choice, choosing the TRUE and HONEST Chris]]
{{Main|SingStar_Challenge}}

{{quote|Alright, Christian, Mr. Brown-Striped Impostor, since you have been able to accept and complete my question challenges, it is time to issue a new challenge.|Solid Chris, ''[[SingStar Challenge]]''}}

[[Fail|And then he shaved his goatee off. Dry. With a safety razor.]]

As expected, the contest went to Liquid and Solid was a sore loser about it. Liquid had a tally of 4 votes in favor, 2 against. He then took his leave from the competition, after announcing a number of personal coups:
*that he'd finally found a true sweetheart, [[Kacey]].
*that he'd landed a job as a Production Manager and Game Designer at Microsoft for a Sonichu game for all consoles.
*that Dark Horse Comics would be publishing his [[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu comics]], making him even more filthy rich, with the opening of the CWCStore.

And finally, that he had decided to stop battling the Solid, and move out of his parents' house to live in Redmond, Seattle, to continue his happy, successful life.

===SHOWDOWN===
{{Main|SHOWDOWN: The TRUE CWC Confronts The FAKE}}
{{Quote|You’re breaking my balls here.|Solid, ''[[SHOWDOWN]]''}}
On 9 [[August 2009]], Liquid called Solid up and confronted him over the slanderous lies he was telling on YouTube. Solid tried reason, and when that failed, he threatened to arrest Liquid for identity theft and involve Bob in this debacle.

{{quotebox|If you do not come clean right now, I am going to get my father in on this further, and you are going to get fucking arrested, thrown in jail, and you will not get to live the peaceful, happy life that Kacey and I would like [voice cracks] you to live because Kacey really cares for you MAN!<ref>[[SHOWDOWN]]</ref>}}

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Of course, this sent Solid completely over the deep end. First, he raged:

{{quote|STOP THAT IMPOSTOR BASTARD WHO HAS BEEN POSING WITH MY NAME, MY ADDRESS, MY PHONE NUMBER, EVERYTHING! STOP HIM! HE DESERVES NOTHING!|Solid Chris, ''[[NO D*** WAY, IMPOSTOR!!!]]''}}

Then, he tried reason:

{{quotebox|The Singstar Challenge was NEVER to verify who was the real Christian Weston Chandler, because everyone on the internet knows that I am, he's the imposter. They should quit encouraging him. And I wish that he would stop his stupid damn dirty game. I don't know what the heck is wrong with his head. [his voice gets higher] He ain't right. He don't even let me get a word in edge-wise. He just keeps going on and on AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ONNNNNNNNN! Worse than my father!<ref>[[The Contest NEVER was to Determine Who was Who]]</ref>}}

And as summer disappeared, so too did Liquid Chris: The apparent victim of foul play. Viewer discretion is advised, as the next video is disturbing.

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Chris's sweetheart, [[Kacey]], was distraught over the event and posted a video confirming Chris's disappearance and announcing her withdrawal from their engagement.

===CWCivil War II: Kacey Boogaloo===
[[Image:Megatron_pistol2.jpg|thumb|SIC SEMPER TRUTH AND HONESTY]]
{{Main|Kacey}}
Liquid Chris reappeared on 15 [[October 2009]] with a new video explaining the trials and tribulations of the past few months, and igniting a heated love triangle with Solid for Kacey's affections.

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In the [[Greetings to Kacey's folks|video]] addressed to Kacey's parents, Solid called him "'''the previous Chris'''". In a [[11052009 Kacey, I Love You, and I Need You|desperate video for Kacey]], Solid called him the "'''other Chris'''" repeatedly.

When the dust had settled, Solid had [[Father Call|offended Kacey's father]] and, through his immaturity, pushed Kacey back into the loving arms of the Real Chris.

===Epilogue===
Liquid Chris is now married to his beloved heartsweet, Kacey. As the one TRUE and HONEST creator of Sonichu, his artwork and comics are extremely popular and he often attracts many beautiful [[boyfriend-free]] females with his medallions and his [[Gitar of Fail|Guitar of Win]]. He makes mad [[Clyde Cash|cash]] by selling said medallions at Otakon and other [[anime]] [[Anime Mid-Atlantic|conventions]] while voicing Solid in [[Fan:Sonichu: The Animated Series|Sonichu: The Animated Series]].

==Irony==
[[Image:LiquidChrisBelieveInMe.jpg|thumb|BELIEVE]]
IBAChandler has mocked the CChanSonichuCWC on several points:

* [[Speech Impediment|His nasal tone]].
* [[Chris and fashion|His brown striped shirt]].
* [[Chris and Money|Actually making money off Sonichu]].
* [[Fat|His appearance]].

It's a bad sign when one is fighting a mirror, [[Fail|and the mirror is winning.]]

In early August 2009<ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate August 3rd, 2009]]</ref>, Solid began to believe that Liquid couldn't be the real Chris because only the real Christian Weston Chandler is a retard who is the laughing stock of the Internet. Therefore, the fact that Liquid isn't trolled and doesn't do dumb shit suggests that he isn't the real Chris. Of course, previously mentioned theories seem to disprove this assertion.

In a further fit of irony, Ian ended up impersonating Liquid in a bizarre attempt to woo Liquid's girlfriend, [[Kacey]].

== In the Comics ==
[[Image:TrueAndHonestCWCArt.jpg|The imposter [[Chris]] stole his famous lecture to the [[Jerkops]] from the real Chris.|thumb|left]]
[[Image:Furryiba.jpg|thumb|Go, [[IBAChandler]], and copycatly sieze [sic] to the extreme!]]

On 17 November, 2009 the TRUE and ORIGINAL Chris-chan made his very first appearance in Ian's [[Sonichu 9]]. Ian, being the slanderous troll that he is, had the nerve to imply that Liquid's name was, in fact, Ian Brandon Anderson, and once again tried to convince everyone that he, Solid was the TRUE and ORIGINAL creator of Sonichu.

Of course, since the comic is made by the ''real'' Christian Weston Chandler, he would obviously cast the impostor in the comic and call him by his real name. Chris shows much more restraint for Ian than was shown to him in [[Sonichu Special 4]].
{{clear}}

==Fan videos==

<center>{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = The Final Fight - part 1
| video = {{#ev:youtube|ayObshLZQwI}}
| Stardate = 2 XI 2009
| Maker = [http://www.youtube.com/user/IBAClydeCash IBAClydeCash]
| Subject =
| Video Type =
}}</center>

<center>{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = The Final Fight - part 2
| video = {{#ev:youtube|s1SBdwZDN1k}}
| Stardate = 4 XI 2009
| Maker = [http://www.youtube.com/user/IBAClydeCash IBAClydeCash]
| Subject =
| Video Type =
}}</center>

<center>{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = The Final Fight - part 3
| video = {{#ev:youtube|dYrgl-otclY}}
| Stardate = 6 XI 2009
| Maker = [http://www.youtube.com/user/IBAClydeCash IBAClydeCash]
| Subject =
| Video Type =
}}</center>

<center>{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = [[Christian Weston Chandler...Yep, I'm on TV :)|Christian Weston Chandler... Yep, I'm On Hexbawks. :)]]
| video = {{#ev:youtube|XhENYYmGAeA}}
| Stardate = 25 [[January 2010]]
| Maker = BobbyHillify
| Subject =
| Video Type = Trailer for the upcoming [[Xbox]] game
}}</center>

==See also==
*[[Fan:Two_CWCs|Theories on the nature of the two CWCs]]

==References==
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== External links ==
*[http://www.youtube.com/cchansonichucwc CChanSonichuCWC YouTube account]
*[http://encyclopediadramatica.com/The_Real_Chris_Chan ED article on The Real Chris Chan]

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CWCki:Community Portal

2010-04-05T23:42:32Z

ThatMan: /* Prank Calls */

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The Community Portal is designed to be a public forum to discuss CWCki related affairs for site wide concerns, policy, that sort of thing.

Please consult the archives to make sure your concern hasn't already been posted before:

[[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 1]] 
[[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 2]] 
[[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 3]] 
[[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 4]]

== April is Autism Awareness Month ==

Is there any chance our friendly CWCki admins could make mention of this?--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 07:28, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

== So Chris has discovered the CWCki (finally) ==

As you can guess, he'll have to pry those pages from my COLD, DEAD HANDS before I consider deleting them. It's not surprising that Chris is targeting those particular pages, though maybe he's being pragmatic in that he knows he won't get the entire thing taken down.

<strike>Expect a video statement from me defending the CWCki and our refusal to comply</strike>. Much is at stake here, people, we shall not submit to Chris. CWCki policy refuses to censor itself (the only exception when there is a clear threat of direct harm as a result of something on the CWCki) and we shall not cave in to Chris's demands.

This is our hour, guys. Chris has discovered the fruits of our labor and we shall not go down without a fight. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:20, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*We will not vanish without a fight! We are going to live on! We are going to survive! Today, we celebrate our CWCkindependance Day! --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 08:40, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*On second thought, I changed my mind about a video. As per [[CWCki:NOTED|"CWCki is not ED"]], we're not so much mocking Chris but trying to explain him. While a CWCki saga would be interesting, I'd rather risk possible "lulz" than CWCki's reputation as a (mostly) reliable and open source of Chris related information. In other words, let's not feed into Chris's ego at the moment by not responding in the positive or affirmative to his threat. If he does respond in some way, well, we're take it from there.
:If one thing comes out of this, I really want to hear what Chris's opinion of the CWCki is. I wonder how far he's looked into the articles and I'm guessing if he's only seen the articles of people personally connected to him, he hasn't delved far. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Guys, I totally know how this will all go down. He's going to send some complaints, which won't work. Then he will register one or more accounts on this wiki and start editing, but of course with his edits we can all determine who he will be. Finally, he will include this website in a future installment of Sonichu, probably using a retarded plot like the survivors of the 4-Cent Garbage building assault have formed a remnant organization called CWCki to use as a hideout, and he and all the mary-sues will come destroy the trolls once and for all. Chris will give himself new powers, Heather Dalley (or the Wallflower) will be gruesomely killed off and mourned for exactly ONE panel, CWCki will fall and Chris will have certain users horribly executed and claim moral victory for himself. After all this, nothing will have changed. --[[User:Ninjaclown|Ninjaclown]] 09:20, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Didn't Chris already ramble previously about how trolls are good because most of the trolls are just documenting his life and acting like the paparazzi or something? Oh, wait, we hit the limit of his attention span. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 10:42, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*We need to find that exact quote, because at exactly midnight on 12 March 2010, that's gonna be the featured quote :3. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**It's in [[C.W.C._-_Thank_You_:)]]. Here's a go at it with the relevant portion, let me know what you think: --[[User:Executor32|Executor32]] 14:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC){{quote|It is good to have my own [[Trolls|trolls]]. They may try, and sometimes succeed, in getting true, hard, [[Honest_Content|honest]] information from one, and they may later [[Chris_and_hypocrisy|twist the truth]] for their evil purposes. Just like the paparazzi. And, yet, they still, document the truth. And that text, audio, photographic, video, etc., type of information, is what separates the [[Ian_Brandon_Anderson|impostors]] from the [[Sammy|real]], [[Asperchu|true]], [[CChanSonichuCWC|honest individual]]. |[[Chris]], on what we do here, 03 [[August 2009]].}}

I was thinking about fucking with him. Delete those pages a few seconds before the deadline and put them back up shortly after midnight. He already hates us, so why not goad him on by exploiting loopholes? Until he comic murders us, we're his main villains. P.S. I'm glad that we were the direct cause of Chris' misfortune and pain. I love seeing him hurt. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 12:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*What about "Booby-Trapping" pages? We could link the edit buttons of the said pages to hard-core gay porn. This should do the trick. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 14:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**If we do that, which might be a good idea to deter Chris from making edits, we'd need to have a legitimate (i.e. non gay porn) way to edit the pages, in case something needs to be added or changed on those pages. Maybe have a fake advert on the side that will link to the edit page instead. But something that wouldn't interest Chris, so he won't click on it. [[User_talk:Rubidium|37]] [[User:Rubidium|'''Rb''']] [[Special:Contributions/Rubidium|85.468]] 15:42, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***Chris used paper strips to hide a side of his computer monitor when he uploads on his shitty site CWCipedia so he won't see the porn. I have a better idea; what about a "Pop-Up" window covering the edit page of all the articles? You want to edit? You must close the Phalus-Enhanced window that had just popped on your screen. That would be quite a deterrent for Chris and a minor hassle for us. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****And for those of us with a pop-up blocker, it won't be a problem at all. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 16:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****I support this. Having gay porn come up every time he tries edit warring would end this quickly. We can expect the CWCipedia forces surender within less than a week of the ads coming up. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:43, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*****CWCki is not here for trolling him. Except with the truth. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 19:35, 11 March 2010 (UTC){{quote|As per "CWCki is not ED", we're not so much mocking Chris but trying to explain him.|[[Cogsdev]], just a few paragraphs ago.}}
::::*I'm with cogs all the way on this one. We don't need to shit all over the CWCki in an attempt to piss Chris off. We exist. That's all we need to do.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 19:40, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::*Actually, I said that but Cogs would be flattered in either case :3. TK said it better than I ever could. For that reason, we shouldn't try to turn CWCki into a trolling weapon. Doing so would turn the CWCki into something it isn't, at least as I see it. Something might go down but the CWCki itself won't be involved, just the persons involved, per say. If CWCki is going to be involved, it will be what we've always done and as TK put, have always done - troll Chris with the truth. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:01, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::*You misunderstand. I support the gay porn links for use as a defense mechanism against Chris fucking with the pages. You know he will try with at least a few pages, and even if we don't go with that idea of gay porn links, I think we should do something to stop him fucking shit up. It shouldn't be harder to handle then any of the regular vandals here, but it'd be a good if we could somehow stop it happening in the first place. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:32, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::*Remember his edits to the ED page. He didn't do much except blank it a couple of times, and the CWCki is way too huge for him to significantly damage. He might even give us some gems, remember [[shecameforcwc.jpg]]? We might get something nice like that.--[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 21:39, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::*Any edits Chris attempts to make will be A) Pathetic B) Funny or C) Informative. Also, Chris never attempted to alter the Asperpedia to my knowledge, even though you don't need an account to do so. Either way, I don't think we need to take any precautionary steps. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:07, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::* Dont cave in to the basterds wills we shall stand as one--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 22:47, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::* As much as I would have loved stashing defensive porn everywhere, an "Open Door" policy will bring much more material to us. T K is right; looks like our "muse" will delivers us fresh material at our doorsteps this Friday. We better act nice... [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 22:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::*Just leave him to it, document his edits and then revert them. Whatever ensues will be hilarious. [[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 23:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::** For added hilarity, may I suggest changing the article of the now to the [[Homos]] article? This may provoke Chris into making another attempt to "Sort out fact from fiction" at the best and make him rage at the least.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 00:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::**Worth a shot. I know its a gamble, but if theres anything we know about Chris, its that he hates da homos, and especially hates being called one. It'd probably get us quite a lot of information. We thought we pretty much had Chris and his ideas of reality all summed up, and then we discover he honestly believes cartoons are real. I remember thinking, 'How the fuck did we not know that by now?' So who knows? Maybe we could get something fresh out of his stance on homos yet. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:25, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::**He went back and forth constantly during the Asperpedia saga, what with curing them and blowing them up and appoligizing the very day afterwards. I doubt we'll get anything more interesting than him blanking the Homos article and leaving the line "I am STRAIGHT YOU GODDAMN HOMO TROLLS!" on that front. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 01:58, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::**You never know with Chris. Failing that, what about the article on [[Snorlax]]? We could always use more information on her. Or he'll just blank it and replace it with "LEAVE MY MOTHER ALONE" and then we'll put the rule 34 the drunk drawfag made of him and Snorlax on his userpage. It's a good day when the best case scenario is "Chris tells us more information" and the worst case scenario is "Chris becomes angry".--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 02:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

===Clarification===
Based on a post someone made on Krapple, I think I might need to clarify what I was saying.

There's two basic approaches to how we can react to Chris:
# we fight him
# we ignore him

Any plan more or less boils down to one of these two, as I see it. Let's say we decide to turn this into a struggle - then we're going to self consciously self censor ourselves, which is something I refuse to do (save for someone's personal well being is at stake, see [[Wallflower]]). In fact, I'm not a fan of some of the edits people have made before. I personally doubt that Chris will suddenly take credence of things said on the CWCki when they've been said before on ED, on the ED forum he supposedly reads, the numerous calls, e-mails, letters, etc. from white knights trying to tell him information, etc. It's implied in pretty much all the sweetheart articles that Chris's sweethearts are all trolls. Yet Chris ''still'' believes that these were all TRUE and HONEST women who were attracted to him and suddenly died for various reasons. Aside from documenting Chris, CWCki serves to dispel misconceptions about him and the trolls that surround him so we don't have faggots spouting the same memes over and over.

Okay, so we really don't need to self censor - there really doesn't seem to be anything indicative that Chris will take what we say with any more creedence than say, ED or any faggot who gets through to him. Chris bringing attention to CWCki makes us a very valuable target for white knights. No, not faggots who genuinely want to defend Chris, I'm talking about faggots who want to gain Chris's trust and will assume that Chris will see their CWCki edits and reward them handsomely so they can get their 15 minutes of e-fame. Vandals get shot down usually fast here on CWCki but it's a bit of a bitch still.

There's a reason why people trust CWCki over ED and other sources about Chris. It's not because we look legit or anything like that. It's because we have ways of doing things. Edits are not whims. I heard some EDiot make fun of us because we use "citation needed" because we're that serious. If you're going to make an outrageous claim about Chris or claim he said something, you better be prepared to say where and when. CWCki is serious business. Probably part of the reason is because we're mostly independent of trolling - this isn't PVCC where if you piss someone off, you're banned. We're not Krapple either. CWCki is generally free to do its own thing. People are allowed to express themselves freely.

So what does this mean? It means that CWCki should stay CWCki, not an elaborate trolling pawn. It is far better that we ignore Chris or at most stand our ground and remain a valuable, less biased, accurate source of information about Chris than to devote our time and energy into making the CWCki into an elaborate way of trolling Chris. I'd rather not see people censor themselves and go to great lengths just to troll Chris with CWCki when such efforts could be used more constructively.

Let's see how Chris responds. If he puts up a fight, then we might do something. If not, then we can carry on as business as usual. In fact, we should be trying for business as usual. March Mumble Madness is still on, and plenty of the [[:Category:Mumble chats|Mumble chats]] still need to be transcribed. Don't worry about Chris discovering shit, just focus on the stuff you'd do any day. You CWCki admins are what ultimately make the CWCki so great, and I personally admire the time and dedication many of you have put in.

In the event Chris and/or white knights vandalize CWCki, jerkops, in addition to myself, Cogs, and Clyde will be on high alert for the next week or so.

In many ways, we are trolling Chris by not giving into his ego - the problem sometimes with creating villains for Chris is that it feeds into his delusion that he's some sort of hero and that he must defeat his villains to achieve his ultimate prize. In short, preserving the CWCki as it is and maintaining its integrity is our number one priority. Anything else is secondary.

Good night, CWCki, and good luck. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:00, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* Yeh, it seems to me the correct response to all this is as little response as possible. Personally, I reckon that anybody expecting some kind of apocalyptic confrontation is going to be sorely disappointed. I mean, practically speaking, what can Chris do? Rage and complain a bit, try to blank a few pages perhaps, maybe put a curse on cogsdev. Not much else. Then the laziness will kick in and he'll go find some other way of making an ass of himself. As for the notion that he might actually learn something from reading the CWCki...well, if there's anything I've learned from reading and contributing to this site, it's that Chris believes what Chris wants to believe. There's not a hell of a lot here that he wants to believe. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 18:48, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

* I do agree that the CWCki needs to stand up against the vile manchild, because as soon as he sees that the CWCki isn't going anywhere, you know he's going to go on a warpath like he did with his ED page, and the ED website. But on the other hand, actually doing something may spread more fuel on Chris's fire, and that's something no one wants. Chris will think that this is just like the ED page, and this is like an arch rival he has to overcome again. My advice(if anyone is interested), I wouldn't do anything to provoke Chris, and just be polite about it, and not get into trolling him, because that may make things worse, and I agree it would ruin the CWCkipedias reputation, and I respect the CWCki too much to see that happen. But knowing Chris, he will do anything to take down the CWCki, and he's going to do it any way he can, so, at that point we would need the cavalry to come in and do the trolling for the CWCki, and put Chris in his place as always. But overall, I don't think he can do much at all aside from more Jewtube videos and BAWWWWs on his own CWCipedia quotes. Sadly for Chris, the CWCki isn't going anywhere, and for Chris, that may be the biggest insult of all. - Chris Pickles

*Well, its after the deadline, and i'm not seeing any response from Chris. He must be taking his time. I'm going to bed now. Maybe when I come back something intresting would have happened. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 03:51, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
**He said Midnight Eastern Time, it's still 11 Eastern Time. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 03:55, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
**Plus, we don't know how long it will take him to realize that we aren't removing the articles. We can either post the "Chris, we have nothing to do with the loss of the Wallflower" note further down on this page or make [[Bob]], [[Snorlax]], [[Lies]], or [[Homos]] the AOTN so he may be inclined to "assist" in expanding those articles..--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:24, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
***It's 20 minutes past midnight, eastern time. Once again, Chris failed to keep a promise. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 05:21, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
***Chris seems to check in on the internet at least once per day--he did his like forty minutes before the deadline, so we'll probably get our reaction whenever he does his next sweep. Could be that he's gone to bed and will check when he wakes up.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 05:27, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
== Posse commitatus ==

Any able bodied CWCki user who feels they can regularly monitor CWCki for recent changes in the next week or so, please contact me for a special assignment.

Current jerkops, please be on full alert. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:18, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* I'll be home all day tomorrow and I'll likely be available this weekend. I'll help out as much as I can. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 04:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* I'll gladly help. I don't really have anything important to do. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 05:03, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* Recently registered but very long time follower of Chris Chan (Back when ED and the sonichu home page was all we had) and lurker around here since the Cwcki's inception. Will also gladly help, I may be unavailable starting tomorrow for 2-3 days but after that I literally have all day every day free for a while. [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 05:06, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

:*P.S. Contact info is available on my user page. Please contact me privately, guys, if you really want to help.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:12, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

: possibly I get out of school early and will gladly help Message me on the details --[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 06:45, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* Reporting for duty Ma'am.I work from home and online anyway, so I have all day to monitor.-[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 22:25, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

== The Response(s) ==

I was told to put this on the Cwcki yesterday. It's a little late

''Dear Chris.
We of the CWCki site have seen your demands and would wish to respond to them.
First off, the CWCki's function is documentation, not trolling. We believe that your own CWCipedia does not fit all the criteria for being a wiki (only two people may edit) but is rather an online autobiography, and a rather one-sided one at that. We have filled this gap by creating an open and comprehensive documentation of you and your work.

Secondly, we of the CWCki pride ourselves in the accuracy of our articles. We strive constantly to attempt to check and double-check our articles for any errors. We have made no attempt to twist facts or lie in any way. If there is anything on our site that you believe is a lie, please let us know what it is.

Third, we never sent any message to your "girl friend", and we did not have any intention to. The person who sent the message is a third party member with no known ties to the CWCki.

Fourthly, since your "girl friend" ran away as quickly as she did, and since we go to great lengths to make our articles as accurate as possible, we are suspicious that you may have deceived her in some way. After all, if you were always telling the truth about yourself, why would she break up when she saw what she already knew?

Finally, we did not force your "girl friend" to leave you, she did that out of her own free will. We do not entirely understand why you are so angry at us for this.
Hoping our further communications will be on more friendly terms,
The CWCki''

:Well, could it hurt to make the Article of the Now into something from the Web of Life template(preferably Snorlax)? I'd like it if we could spit in his face at least a ''little'' bit before this is over.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 06:59, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:*Made some edits. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 07:47, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
::*It looks fine to me.
::*I love this. Quite the perfect stance the CWCki need to take. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 14:19, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:* You should make Bob AOTN - that way Chris will probably make some sort of statement on ihs health.--[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 22:46, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:**Either Bob or Snorlax would make a nice AOTN, but I'd prefer Snorlax on the off chance Chris tries to edit her page. He seems to have forgotten that we know what she looks like.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 22:56, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:* All right, now that we seem to have the message settled, how are we going to give it to Chris? Do we place it somewhere on the CWCki? Do we email Chris? Or are we gonna do something else?[[User:Kraken|Kraken]]
:** We can put it right below the featured quote, he'll probably notice it there. Changing the featured article to Megan or SheCameForCWC.jpg is also an option.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 20:00, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

*Not to be a dick guys but c'mon, giving a formal message like this is contrary to the stance we're going to take. Giving Chris a response is feeding into his ego, even if it's a simple message. In any case, I have taken into your considerations for the Article of the Now, but personally, I was thinking [[Patti Chandler]] and with the most offensive fan art (one of the one where she's raping Chris or something like that) as the article of the now. Failing that, then maybe Snorlax. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:39, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:*Thinking about it some more, I was a bit hard headed. Tell you what - if Chris pushes the CWCki thing so much, we'll make a video of this in addition to the quote of the now. That's if Chris responds, mind you. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:51, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

== Chris's Demands ==
Well, I think it's clear that he didn't even click on some of the articles--half of them are stubs to begin with. Also, he's extended his deadline and doesn't get why Heather had her article removed. Also the Hambeast has a name now. Who wants to take action?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 07:22, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

* As usual, Chris puts absolutely no thought into his threats or demands, and has no intelligence to begin with anyways. There's nothing he can do to the cwcki, once again, Chris is fighting against something that he just has no power over, and it's completely beyond his control. My advice, I think we do need to fire back at Chris with something, just to show that the CWCki isn't going anywhere. I think we need to add some stuff to the articles he's complaining about, and improve them, maybe add some more details and maybe even revise some of the pages completely. I think that would stick in Chris's side pretty good. It's not what I would consider "Trolling", but just to show Chris that the CWCki is boss, and we do not have to do anything he says just because he doesn't like it. I would hold off on any kind of video response or direct action from the CWCkipedia, I think silence will kill Chris more. --[[user:Chris_Pickles|Chris_Pickles]] 05:12, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

*I disagree. While the theory is that giving him a response would just feed his ego, I think the discovery that the trolls made an entire wiki all about him was already enough to do that. I say we respond. I think we should use the letter to Chris seen above on the featured quote page as a way of telling him to fuck off. While we're at it, go about improving those articles as you said, and as was sugested, make Megan, or another 'Gal-Pal' the article of the now. If need be, we make the video too and put it with the featured quote. If he keeps quiet then we'll spare him the video and just leave him. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 13:36, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

** You know Edward, I changed my mind, I agree with you 100%. I do think we should come up with a formal address to Chris himself via the front page of the cwcki. Something special for both Chris, and avid readers of the cwcki. Something sophisticated and swarmy I think. Insulting him would be pointless, but I think if we made a direct, formal address that doesn't pull any BS, and just gets right to the point, that would be awesome. At some point, the CWCki has to make its stand against Chris(because we only have till the 31st until chris UNVEILS HIS WRATH ARRGH!), and make it aware to people that no one is backing down. I just don't know what that address should be though, I guess it's something left up to the sysop to decide on, but it should be something that's well constructed, and just pisses Chris off as well. I mean, the guy just made a video admitting he's so desperate he would pay for hookers and begging for a girlfriend. So, there's no real reason to hold back, but I say represent the best of the cwcki. --[[Chris_Pickles]] 03:11, 15th March 2010 (UTC)
*** I think we ought to make it obvious to Chris why the pages have just been protected--you just know that his ego is going to twist that in his favor.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 17:05, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

* I'd go with Snorlax for maximum damage--he put a lot of emphasis on ALL OF MY RELATIVES and Bob/Barbara have the largest articles. He's freaking out about this because he's afraid that his parents are going to find out that we know about them(He didn't think we knew what they looked like). Snorlax especially, since she's adamant about staying off the internet. For bonus points make "SnorlaxCameForCWC" the image of the now.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 18:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
** SheCameForCWC.jpg is also another option. Imagine what happens when Chris discovers that the hated image has it's own article. Also, I know someone has Rule 34 of Jivin, so we could make that the IOTN. Failing that we can use the rule 34 Isabel made of Magi-chan and the "Redesigned" Asperchu!Magi-chan.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 19:22, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
** Thats not two Magi-Chans. That image is of Magi-Chan and Swift, the exact Magi-Chan duplicate that Chris created while attempting to retcon Asperchu. The image is actually called 'Hecameforswift.png.' --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

* Why don't we just pretend to follow up with Chris's demands again? Even though it has been done before, I think it could be interesting to see what his reaction would be if we took the stuff out for a day or two. [[User:Chaosakita|Chaosakita]] 07:22, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:*And having Chris switch into "Smug Mode" for a while? No way. Besides, he's creating the most Lulz when his whims are denied. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 12:57, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:*NEVER COMPROMISE, EVEN IN THE FACE OF ARMAGEDDON.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:01, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
**No. We do not negotiate with terrorists. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 15:19, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
**It's nowhere near as funny unless he's screaming or breaking the camera. I'm still hoping for a video where he's both naked and screaming.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:34, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
** Nah, giving into his demands, even as a joke, would just feed his enormous ego more, and we'd obviously see a video of Chris touting a "win" over CWCki. Standing against the manchild and essentially giving him a big "Fuck You" would be a lot more satisfying (And it might deflate Chris's ego slightly.....Well, we can dream) than a quick switcheroo. --[[User:Torvalr|Torvalr]] 10:40, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

== Page protections ==

In light of Chris's demands, I have opted to protect all of the pages he listed on CWCipedia. Reasons are twofold:
# to prevent Chris from editing them once he realizes that he can, you know, just get an account the pages.
# to prevent white knights, faggots, and other assorted idiots from complying with Chris's demands.

Whatever may come of this, CWCki will not comply with Chris's demands, as doing so would be a violation of the principles CWCki and wikis in general stand for.

I apologize for the page protections, but I feel this is a reasonable precautionary measure that may ease up the workload of our jerkops and admins who are already on high alert. If you feel you have information that must ABSOLUTELY go in the article, post it on the article talk page and an admin will determine whether to sort of it out.

Protections will last until 01 April, and depending on Chris's responses may be extended slightly. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

== 500 internal server error ==

500 internal server error is completely fucking me up, there are moments that I can hardly edit pages because of it. I'm sorry if we allready have discussion on it, but we need more. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 19:34, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
* I agree that those errors are annoying the shit out of me. In fact, I got one just now when I was trying to edit this page. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 22:02, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
* Thirded-[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 22:28, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
* I know. This shit is annoying. Possibly the most annoying thing i've come across on the internet. And I've seen the 'Who broke the copier copier copier copier' ad. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:23, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
:*Guys, just refresh or whatever. This is nothing compared to how shit used to be when we were on 110mb. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:05, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
::*fixed? maybe [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 00:33, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*It's better than it was yesterday. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 00:34, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
* I have learned to love those errors. It will slow down vandals and even Chris if they show up to mess with the CWCki. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:40, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
*Just wanna say I dig the new error pages. Funny stuff, nicely done. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 14:18, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

== TV Tropes page? ==

Should we have a page on the various TV Tropes pages of Sonichu, and the fact that Chris is a ''god'' in the Trope Pantheon ([http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Disgraces under Disgraces, the God of Bile Fascination, to be exact])? He's fourth from the bottom on that page, but for the sake of simplicity I'll list his "god" info here, as exact as I can make it:

<blockquote>
'''[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Sonichu Christian Weston Chandler], [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BileFascination God of Bile Fascination]''' (CWC, Chris-Chan Sonichu, Ian Brandon Anderson)
* Quasideity [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SmallNameBigEgo that thinks he's an Overdeity]
* Symbol: His [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Sonichu Sonichu] Medallion
* Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
* Portfolio: [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SoBadItsHorrible Comics that are unreadable] [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BileFascination but that you can't stop coming back to], [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LifeEmbellished Using narrative to prove his righteousness]
* Domains: Animal, Envy, Hatred, Lust, Pestilence, Sloth
* Rival with [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Disgraces David Gonterman] for all his portfolios.
* Other enemies: [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheImageboardThatMustNotBeNamed "4-Cent Garbage"], [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Technology Sonic The Hedgehog], [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Beast Pikachu], Anyone in the House of [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Justice Justice] for being Jerkops.
* Chris-Chan used to spend his days lurking in the House of [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/Love Love] but was banned. Ever since then he has sworn revenge by [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LifeEmbellished drawing them getting beaten up by him]
* Position: None. Apparently the other Disgraces keep him around so they can look good in comparison.
* Chance of Redemption: Slim to none.
</blockquote>

Who knows, maybe this "amazing honor" can be used in the "Did You Know..." section if a fake Chris-appeasing main page is used once the deadline passes? Just an idea. --[[User:ToyoWolf|Kimo]] 22:56, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

:Please don't. TvTropes doesn't have an easy revert function, so when he shows up to try editing it will be a pain in the ass to clean up. --[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 00:29, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

*We already have a link to the TV Tropes page in the [[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu comic]] article, I think that's good. People interested in these tropes can refer to TV Tropes article for that purpose. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:02, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

== Essay on CWCki ==

Someone wrote a [http://legi0n.789chan.org/cwc/res/26862.html pretty decent] essay on CWCki for a totally legit college class and posted it on [[Krapple|/cwc]]. Check it out. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:10, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
* That person is made of win. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 04:39, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
* The gentleman deserves all the proper honors we can award him for this paper.[[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 13:17, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

== So Chris thinks I'm Tito ==

if you like reading fake info, check the history --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 09:16, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

*(Removing my comment so I look less like a moron. Mostly just skimmed it because of WALL OF TEXT.) -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 09:09, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

*yeah, okay [[User:Batty|Batty]]. you didn't even try to make this look real. get the fuck out. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 09:16, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

**just seemed to be copy/pasted from the transcribed videos, most likely just attention whoring. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 09:21, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

::*Banned for great justice --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 12:36, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

== Only 25 pages till the 1,000 mark ==

Will we celebrate somehow? --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 06:35, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
* I'll be sure to go get drunk, if that's any good. [[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 12:18, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

== CWCki and POV ==

[http://legi0n.789chan.org/cwc/res/27273.html This thread] on [[Krapple|/cwc]] made quite a stir, essentially with the OP complaining how we have POV. However, I think this is a fair accusation - that we're POV, that is we're biased against Chris.

Currently, it's clear that [[A_Quick_Guide_to_CWCki#POV_is_the_norm|CWCki is POV]] by its nature and the nature of its subject. Trying to be unbiased about Chris is like trying to be unbiased about Hitler - most people are going to hate him and it's really hard to say anything nice about either one without being attacked for sympathizing with them.

Personally, I think that CWCki should more or less remain critical towards Chris but not outright bash him - it's alright to point out Chris, for instance, is a [[Chris and hypocrisy|hypocrite]] based on the facts, but not that he's a "complete and utter failure" simply because of his hypocrisy. Any sort of judgment on Chris should more or less be left to the reader. As was the problem with [[Chris and race]], CWCki really should try to present the facts about Chris in a way such that what Chris says mostly speaks for itself, with minor explanatory notes and allow the reader come to his own conclusion about Chris.

However, it is possible to be NPOV, but this is difficult and I think would force us to take a different tone in articles, ending up being bland and with less flexibility.

Mind you, I'm not saying we have to be nice to Chris, only that it seems that some expect us to be unbiased towards Chris and present information in an unbiased manner, which I think is not a totally unreasonable request but may not suit our needs. But nonetheless, I think it's a reasonable complaint and I think maybe we should address it (though it's unfortunate the person who started this thread did not bring it up here, but instead opted to go on Krapple).

Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:43, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

*I think, why bother? Who would really want to view an unbiased page about Chris? He is complete scum, and most people know it after barely skimming over these articles. I don't think he even deserves unbiased judgement. He threw that out the window ages ago. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 09:07, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

:*Champ, I think you have the right idea. NOTED is the thing, and we're not. EDiots put stuff in, you go round and change it. The tone is fine, and provided we don't wade outright into things, then CWCki can at least keep some degree of impartiality. We're here to document, not to actually troll Chris. That's what we have PVCC/cwc/edf for.

Being NPOV would be alot of work. Provided the humour doesn't go along the lines of "OMG FAT RETARD", we're probably doing alright for ourselves. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 10:31, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Just clearing up a small misconception: [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|NPOV]] doesn't mean "Good and bad views must be covered in equal measure". It means "If it's a fact that is covered in a reliable sources, it doesn't matter if it's positive or negative in tone - what matters is that it's a fact, and our job is to report it". In other words, facts speak up for themselves and we can't consciously choose to include either good or bad views, ''because that's what taking a point of view is all about''. So yes, I believe we can be neutral; for most of the part, we're ''already there''. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 11:15, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
*If anyone knows about this shit, it's Wwwwolf being our resident Wikifag and whatnot. RPOBLEM SOLVED.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:49, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
:::With NPOV, i think CWCki would become a TL;DR collection, i recall some pages with a sarcastic point of view in them, and delivered all the info correctly, for example, in the page for [[ Sonichu's Edge]] we wuld have to remove the images, fan videos and remove "One can only imagine what the innocent citizens of Charlottesville must have thought as a fat, sweaty retard went puffing ...". To me, there is only 1 way to make CWCki interesting to read, POV is the norm.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 06:24, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

== Memorandum on Jerkop powers ==

With the exception of Quality Control Jerkops (at which moment there are no active ones), Jerkop powers are limited to deleting, moving, etc. pages only in regards to vandalism (i.e. vandal creates a page entitled "YOUR MOM SUCKS BLACK COCK" or uploads over 9000 Goatse variants). Jerkops have no authority to use their powers for editoral decisions. They are welcome to initiate the discussion of merging, deleting articles, as any other user, but they cannot use their powers to execute such plans.

Ultimate power for deletion and merging of articles belongs to admins. Admins, ideally, will recognize the will of the community but it is ultimately their decision.

I do not wish to name names but a certain Jerkop who deleted a page recently went beyond their powers and uprightly so. True, it was a sucky page that I would have deleted, but nonetheless I would have handled the situation differently than they would have.

Jerkops who wish to have Quality Control privileges can request them and interview for the position. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:42, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
*I'm not even a Jerkop yet, but is there any way I could be come a Quality Control one? [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 21:44, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

== DVD Transcriptions ==

I'm working on transcribing the notes from the DVDs. I guess they're not absolutely needed, but would it still be ok to make a page for them? ChaosAkita 21:57, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

== Featured articles? ==

I noticed that [[Chris and anger]] and [[2009]] were both marked as featured articles, but there was no process of any kind; they just seem to have randomly gotten slapped with stars. If we're going to have featured articles, we need a rubric to determine what qualifies as "featured," and maybe a process to vote on what should be featured. See discussion [[Category_talk:Featured_articles#Use_it_or_lose_it|here]]. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 00:47, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

== Angelica 34 ==

What happened to that picture of Angelica [[mass debating]]? It's off the 34 page, and a search of the term "angelica" on every type of page turns nothing up.[[User:Wise dude321|Wise dude321]] 02:34, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
:Nevermind, I found it. I went to the 110mb for the file. Also, I never want to do that again.[[User:Wise dude321|Wise dude321]] 05:12, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

== Chris is ending Sonichu ==

The ad on top of the Cwcipedia says he's discontinuing Sonichu. Either that, or I misread it. Does this mean what I think it means? If so, should we rejoice? Mourn? [[User:ninjaclown|ninjaclown]] 06:39, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
* No he isn't. Need I remind you who controls the adspace? (Hint: It's not Chris)--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 06:57, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
**I see. My bad then. [[User:ninjaclown|ninjaclown]] 07:07, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

== Stay safe ==

Seriously, I rage every time Chris says this. It's his generic parting catch phrase, because apparently "good-bye" or "see you later" aren't enough. Should we make a page on this, documenting every time he says it and listing possible theories as to why he's so obsessed with everyone's safety? This would also be a good opportunity to link to death threats he's made, especially to people he's told to "stay safe".

Thank you for your time CWCki, and stay safe. [[User:IanBrandonAnderson|IanBrandonAnderson]] 20:23, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

:I agree with this statement. Stay safe, CWCki. --[[User:Blunderscore|Blunderscore]] 20:27, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Stay safe probably doesn't merit a page of it's own, but it's a good point, and it would be worth adding into another article there- It is one of Chris's stranger CWCisms, and it is a tasty piece of irony too. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 20:29, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm thinking [[Minor CWC-isms]] maybe? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:19, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
*Yeah, Minor CWC-isms is probably the place for it. STAY SAFE, GUYS. ONLY 44 HOURS 'TILL SHIT GOES DOWN. Assuming Chris has even remembered, that is. [[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 08:54, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

== Jerkops and admins ==

Please contact me ASAP. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:01, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
*SHUT THE FUCK UP CHAMP

but seriously yeah talk to champ [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 03:07, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== 500 Internal Server error solved? ==
If you get the error starting from now, tell us. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 23:40, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

okay i just got it :( [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 02:33, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
* Yeah, I just got it a few seconds ago. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 03:20, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
*Last night, when I cliked on that little animation of Jimmy Hill in the Fan Art section. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:17, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
**And also just now, when I tried to post the sentence above. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:18, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
***I tried against and got something which said 'Location: http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/CWCki:Community_Portal
' --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:19, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
****Then another 500 error. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:19, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
*****Then another location. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:20, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
******Another 500. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:20, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
*******Another. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:20, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
********I get this error so many times I've lost count.-[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 00:37, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Just got one when trying to view the main page --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 23:37, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Until this is fixed, can you at least not make the 500 error redirect to a different page? It's annoying that you can't simply refresh the page when you get the error, you have to go back/forward or click links again. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 00:13, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

== Bob Chandler dead? ==

Today I was on Chris's Sonichu page (http://sonichuchandler.tripod.com/cwcson.htm) and I noticed something:
"Updated: 3/31/2010

Sonichu is no longer being updated. My father's passing has been too great for me. :( It is like I Lost Patti All Over Again."
Chris hasn't made any official announcement of this, as far as I know, and it hasn't been mentioned anywhere on the CWCki. Is anyone else aware of this?
[[User:Thecornbreadhour|Thecornbreadhour]] 03:00, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
:I'm skeptical about this announcement. Chris has not made any official video about it, and for all I know, that site may have been hacked, considering Chris's poor choice of passwords. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 03:02, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
::The Tripod page is maintained by trolls. If you want to really know call the hospital Bob is at. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 03:04, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah, considering the update was one day before April Fool's, it was obvious that the page was updated by trolls. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 03:07, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
::::The page also gives a phone number to call an imposter Chris at, with a Charlottesville area code. -[[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 03:15, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

==ED saga 2: eclectic buggaloo==
Is anyone else expecting something like the ED saga? This started with petty vandalism and hopefull it will escalate int tard rage videos.
Also, considering how he tried to bring down ED with HTML hacking do you think that he accidentally broke his own cwcipedia after getting this site and his site mixed up?
[[User:Dkd|Dkd]] 13:18, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
:No. It wasn't even close to hacking, it was more like blanking. Also, CWCipedia is down because 110mb is coughing up a lung.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 17:23, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

==Prank Calls ==
Do recorded prank calls directed at the chandlers are worthy of being in the CwCki? [[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 01:12, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
*Did you get any particularly amusing statements from it? Anything informative? Any new CWCisms? Anything that has potential to become a meme at least? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 01:45, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
* Kind of, there are 2 videos, one using a sounboard of chris to call bob and another soundboard of bob to call bob, and Bob can't recognize either his son or his own voice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR27uIDz9d4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hz1i7QJEf0&feature=related
and this one as well with bob speaking his mind about chris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIoS-gPOA0k&feature=related
Probably these videos are old news, but since i haven't find em in the cwcki, i thought they might be of some relevance.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 05:32, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
*Go for it. These look to be intresting. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 12:47, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
*Perhaps we should just make a general page on Prank calls first, and if any of them are really important enough, we can give them their own page? --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 23:42, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

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Talk:Surfshack Tito (video)

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BITCH TRANSCRIBED. That was easy.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 05:08, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

We need a pic of Tito from "Rocket Power."--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:17, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Is there any context to this? [[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 05:25, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Wait, seriously, what? This was the most unexpected video I've ever seen. So unexpected, in fact, that I'm motivated to make my first post on this here CWCki. Can we please get some kind of context? --[[User:Ronfredricks|Ronfredricks]] 15:45, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I guess... Chris is sending his dead dog into people's dreams to harvest their souls? Like a canine Freddy Kreuger. [[User:Stickly|Stickly]] 15:48, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Please note that Chris is not talking about his father at the hospital. Just sayin'. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:29, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
*Insensitive bastard. (But then, it does not surprise me) --[[User:Munch Banchibokkusu|Munch]] 19:07, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

==Rename this page?==
I was putting together an article on Tito himself, since it seems like he's become Chris's nemesis of the moment. Is it possible to change the name of this page (to something like "Surfshack Tito.mov" or whatever) so just plain "Surfshack Tito" can refer to the troll himself? [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 16:50, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
*Just came here to ask about the same thing, though I don't think there's enough info on Tito for his own page at the moment, but I was thinking that it should at least head to his entry on [[trolls]] (oops, forgot to sign, how embarrassing) --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 03:33, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Surfshack Tito (video)

2010-03-17T00:39:52Z

ThatMan:

Talk:PS3 Tutorial for my fans

2010-02-25T02:38:44Z

ThatMan:

Well hey, at least I made the page. [[User:ArizonaBay|ArizonaBay]] 01:31, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Added the embedded video, I'll let someone better with wikis do the full template. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 02:38, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

PS3 Tutorial for my fans

2010-02-25T02:31:50Z

ThatMan:

'''PS3 Tutorial for my fans''' is the second video uploaded by Christian on February 24th, [[2010]]. In the classic tradition of videos like [[Sonichu Powerpoint]], Chris goes aimlessly on and on trying to explain something comlicated beyond his comprehension, this time to his mystery birthday guest.

{{#ev:youtube|rdm0GHgvoGw}}

Talk:List of phrases Chris copied from media

2010-02-06T04:12:15Z

ThatMan:

I think we would be better off creating an article about the phrases Chris repeats endlessly, and then noting which ones he copied from TV. Covers more bases.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 14:20, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

* Not all of those are repeated endlessly, though. --[[User:Wtv|Wtv]] 15:36, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

This isn't a totally bad idea for an article, but isn't this something that could be included in [[List of things Chris has ripped off]]? Also, when you make an article, please try to use proper capitalization and whatnot. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:03, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

* Sorry. I think this deserves it's own article, because there is a lot of examples for this (they just need to be listed). I wouldn't call it ripping off something per se either, since it's perfectly natural to do this from time to time, it's just that chris does it a lot. --[[User:Wtv|Wtv]] 15:36, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

The "Grinds my Gears" phrase comes from an episode where Peter uses the phrase and becomes the "Grinds my Gears" guy, so half of an episode was devoted to Peter saying a catchphrase. --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 15:33, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
:If that's not a reason to hate family guy, I don't know what is.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 16:12, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
:If I remember correctly, Seth MacFarlane also said that was a phrase he ripped off from John Candy in "Plains, Trains and Automobiles". So, it's a rip-off of a rip-off. I don't know that it's worth noting, seeing as how Chris would be totally unaware, but yeah. That --[[User:CDiddles|CDiddles]] 05:26, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
::On a similar not, we might want to make note of the fact that South Park is not the place to use "breakin' my balls", if you look around there are quite a few examples of the use of some variation of a phrase involving the breaking of balls even decades prior to that. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 04:12, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
== Renaming ==

Aside for correcting this for grammar, I think others have suggested this be given a more generic title, as television would be too narrow, not to mention I don't want to see things like "List of phrases Chris has copied from video games," "List of phrases Chris has copied from movies," "List of phrases Chris has copied from his parents," etc. Is "List of phrases Chris has copied" grammatically correct (I'm looking at you, [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]])?

On an aside, the format is shit, needs something along the lines of [[Minor CWC-isms]]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:13, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
*Yeah, I didn't think about that when creating. I've suggested this on /cwc/ and I agree "List of phrases chris has copied" works for me. Sorry about the grammar, I'm german. I did look at the minor cwc-isms article when creating this one and debating how to set it up but I think this is kind of hard to group alphabetically. but I guess I'll mess with it a bit. --[[User:Wtv|Wtv]] 22:46, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

CWCki:Community Portal

2010-02-05T18:42:01Z

ThatMan: /* Quintin Tarantino */

CWCki:Community Portal

2010-02-05T18:41:33Z

ThatMan: /* Quintin Tarantino */

Simonla Rosechu

2010-02-03T21:53:52Z

ThatMan:

'''Simonla Rosechu''' (aka '''Simonla''') is an orange [[Rosechu (species)|rosechu]] who can turn her arms into drills and dig underground. She also has a drill at the end of her tail.

Originally a [[troll|fan]] character submitted by Evan named '''Simonchu''', [[Chris]] instead added breasts and a [[china]] and turned it into Simonla so he'd have something to [[mass debating|masturbate]] to.

==Background==
Evan told Chris he got his drills from being raised by Beedrill, though any bona fide weeaboo knows the drills and the name come from Simon the Driller, from ''[[Wikipedia:Gurren Lagann|Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann]]''. Interestingly, in his [[Apologies to Alec and Evan]] video, Chris pronounces Simonchu as ''Sigh-Mon-Chu'' and not ''See-moan-chu'', meaning that:

*Chris has never seen Gurren Lagann before, much to the relief of many fans and
*Simonla's pronunciation would be ''Sigh-mon-lah''.

Her actual character biography is basically non-existent. While the members of the [[Chaotic Combo]] all have their own retarded little backstories to explain where they came from and what they're doing together, Simonla just shows up one day, ready to strip naked and present backdrops. Where she's been and why she never helped with all the crazy shit that happens in [[CWCville]] is never addressed. At all.

[[Evan]] eventually clears it up in his Simonchu comic: Simonla is a [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|female clone]] of Simonchu, sent back in time to befriend the other Electric Hedgehogs so that Chris can prove [[Wild]] is STRAIGHT to the trolls in order to cover up [[Asperchu|Alec's SLANDEROUS portrayals]]. This explains, somewhat, Chris's constant references to Simonla and Simonchu being siblings, though it may be more accurate to consider Simonla a daughter to Simonchu. [[lie|Chris is sure to integrate this creative and interesting plot twist into his own comic immediately]], [[Mitch Sonichu|just as he expects other people to change their comics to match his ideas]].

==Development==
[[Image:Simonchu by Evang y.png|thumb|Before...]]
On 26 August 2008, Evan posted on his [[DeviantArt]] account:<ref>http://evang-y.deviantart.com/art/Simonchu-96132351</ref>

<div style="border:1px dotted #4682B4;padding:5px; background-color:#F0F8FF">
My Sonichu fancharacter.

Simonchu
Age: 14
Ground/Electric

Simonchu was originally a Pikachu, raised by a swarm of Beedrill. However, when Perfect Chaos attacked Station Square, the Pikachu and Beedrills watched from a nearby forest. In the middle of the battle a flash of pure Chaos energy was released, killing all the Beedrills. The Pikachu, however, was able to absorb the Chaos energy and use it to evolve. Depressed due to his parents' demise, Simonchu took his parents' drills and dug deep underground, leaving no one in CWCville to know of this unique Sonichu and his awesome powers.

until today...

...
[[Image:Simonla.jpg|thumb|...and after. Chris has the reverse Midas touch - everything he touches turns to shit.]]

Now I really must send it to him and hope he includes Simonchu in another issue. He is JUST bad enough to fit into Sonichu. </div>

Three months later, Chris did use the character, as he had wanted to create a ground-type Sonichu or Rosechu character. He could have used Simonchu, as he had Evan's permission to, but, feeling that he had enough Sonichu characters (or, more likely, needing material to [[mass debating|mass debate]] to), he decided to turn Simonchu into Simonla (playing off Simone, the feminine form of Simon), because to Chris, tits = better. Chris-chan also misinterpreted the cloak Simonchu wore as some sort of shell, judging by Simonla's line, "My shell is removable!"

Chris has claimed on Simonla's CWCipedia page that in Episode 20 he will introduce Simonchu as a ground (and only ground) type. [[Lie|He never showed up.]]

===Forced Romance===

{{Quote|plus pairing Simonla with Wild as a couple; that GIVES multiple meanings to the phrase "Opposites Attract."|Chris, [[Mailbag 21#Why no Tails?|completely failing to explain anything]].}}

In [[Sonichu 9|Episode 19]], Simonla attends the [[Dating education|dating classes]] and is eventually paired up with Wild Sonichu. Chris-chan had previously revealed this to Evan in the ancient Sonichu IRC chatroom, but it ended up creating one of the most horrific pages in Sonichu history.

===Evan's Response===

In late [[December 2009]], [[Evan]] [[Mailbag 22#Evan: back with a vengeance|e-mailed Chris]], accusing him of lying about the resolution Chris claimed to have worked out with him. Chris [[Rejected Mailbag#Let Me Get Back To You On That|ignored]] this e-mail.

Four mailbags later, Evan [[Mailbag 26#It isn't theft if Chris dumps a boyfriend on them|once again]] petitioned Chris, this time saying Chris was stealing his character. Evan politely asked Chris to kill Simonla in the comic, yet Chris responded by saying that he could not write out Simonla, as she was [[Wild]]'s girlfriend, and that he shouldn't be a monster for wanting to do so.

Evan [[Mailbag 35|tried again]], tired of it all, where Chris pointedly refused once more. Disillusioned with Chris, Evan allowed [[Asperchu|the creator of ''Asperchu'', Alec Benson Leary]], to feature Simonchu as one of Sonichu's friends. Whilst Simonchu is portrayed as a homosexual in the comic, [[Mailbag 40#Simonchu_swings_both_ways|Evan confirmed in an e-mail to Chris that Simonchu is bisexual]], and that Alec treated the character with far more respect than changing his gender without permission. Chris still persists with his refusal, on the grounds that depriving Wild of his girlfriend would be awful.

Evan would ask Chris to remove Simonla once again in [[Mailbag 43]]. Chris responded with one of his most bizarre and megalomanical statements yet, explaining that Simonla "didn't want" to leave CWCville, and that Evan himself "moves on" under the influence of [[Chris and his ego|Chris's Directorial Powers.]] Chris would later claim that Simonla should be considered an original character, since Chris could have, theoretically, come up with the concept on his own, with the fact that he actually based her on Simonchu's design more or less a coincidence:

{{quote|...IF I start with a Normal Rosechu, give her ground and dirt for skin, add some Drills, Natural Second Transparent Eyelids, an Armadillo Shell with a Drill Spot for a Marking on the front, and Construction Shoes, DOES NOT MEAN AT ALL of YOUR story of "Re-Modifying Simonchu with a Vagina"; THE TWO ARE SEPARATE, INDIVIDUAL CHARACTERS, so do us all a favor and QUIT B****ING AND STRESSING YOURSELF TO YOUR OWN PREMATURE DEATH.|Chris, [[Mailbag 44]].}}

Chris even edits the [[CWCipedia]], with the blatant [[lie]] that Simonla was not, in any way, inspired by Simonchu. The fact that she has a shell of identical color and shape to Simonchu's cloak, a drill marking in the exact same place as Simonchu's drill medallion, and extra eyelids that replicate red goggles such as Simonchu wears is completely coincidental.

TL;DR Pointless, throwaway relationships = Rights to use a fan character, in Chris's mind.

===Chris denies reality===
After a good deal of back-and-forth in the [[Mailbag]] over what to do with Simonla, on 02 February 2010 Chris added the following note to his profile of the character on the [[CWCipedia]]:
[[Image:Fkinglie.png|thumb|Evan's response.]]
<div style="border:1px dotted #4682B4;padding:5px; background-color:#F0F8FF">
I had previously stated inspiration from Evan George's Simonchu Character; that was a fabrication, and I apologize for leaving the lie up for this whole time.

Simonchu was Never an Inspiration, or had Anything to do with Simonla Rosechu's creation whatsoever.

Thank you for being patient while I had thought further on Simonla's Background Story.</div>

This fooled absolutely no one. Evan and his fellows responded with a barrage of new advertisements at the top of every CWCipedia page, pointing out Chris's obvious lie.

==Simonla the [[Pedofork]]==
In the Dating Education episode, we see Simonla outside Cwcville U talking to [[Zapina]], the 14-year-old girl who wants to strip despite those "dumb child protection Laws" Chris and the Sonichu gang hate so much. Zapina refers to Simonla as "her best friend," which is creepy enough, before Simonla instructs her to get a "16-year-old boy".

One can only wonder why she would do such a thing, when any woman in her right mind would tell her to focus on her studies and hang out with friends her own age before worrying about boys, especially one two years older when she's clearly underage!

==Gallery==
<center>
<gallery>
Image:SimonlaThePedofork.jpg|Chris subtly lets slip his pedofork tendencies through Simonla
Image:SchuComic10P20.jpg|this is God punishing Evan for sending him those e-mails.
Image:Simonlaemailqf7.png|The e-mail confirming Simonla's appearance.
Image:SimonlaOriginalDesign.jpg|Chris's original design of Simonla.
</gallery>
</center>

==Sauces==
<references/>

==See also==
{{CWCipedia}}

*[[Evan]]
*The TRUE, HONEST and PICKLE-HAVING Advenures of Simonchu and Niachu: [http://simonchucomics.deviantart.com/]

{{Sonichu}}

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