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User:The Iconoclast

2011-07-04T10:48:10Z

The Iconoclast:

I am The Iconoclast, an unconventional eccentric who marches to the beat of a different drummer. I am the creator of [http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/The_Belch_Dimension_Comics The Belch Dimension Comics], and author of ''Almasheol'', ''Postcards of the Hanging'', and ''Tiresias''.

Any similarities between me and [[Chris-Chan]] is conjecture bordering on patent fartknockery.

{{Observer}} {{Straight}} {{Armchair Psychologist}}

User:The Iconoclast

2011-06-15T06:59:29Z

The Iconoclast:

I am The Iconoclast, an unconventional eccentric who marches to the beat of a different drummer, and creator of [http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/The_Belch_Dimension_Comics The Belch Dimension Comics]. The offending and ignorant cartoon that keeps popping up here can now be read at [http://www.gamespot.com/users/Fekul_the_Baby/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-25901826 The Belchblog]. Fun is fun, but the joke is growing old, so kindly knock it off.

{{Observer}} {{Straight}} {{Armchair Psychologist}}

Talk:Ivy O'Neil

2011-06-06T21:04:41Z

The Iconoclast: /* Real or Not? */

ivy is just chris trying to lay one on us trolls amirite? he probably made the whole thing up.

* Ivy's real. Yeah, I talked to her. Lurk moar.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:16, 16 April 2009 (CEST)

Odd you should say that. She must like watching him drink his own cum? -Decrumpit
:Ain't nuttin' wrong wit dat. [[User:Fat Nigger|Fat Nigger]] 11:57, 3 May 2009 (CEST)

==Break up==
I need to fix this. No offense Fat Nigger but please, if you're not sure of something, don't make up details. A lot of what you wrote is misleading. I realize that knowing what happened based of Clyde's description can be limiting but the conclusions arisen do not follow from even just the knowledge of that description. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:57, 22 May 2009 (CEST)

: I added that stuff, sorry. I tried to stick to what Clyde wrote in the "end of an era" thread, using some of his words but didn't figure out in what order things happened. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 10:06, 24 May 2009 (CEST)

::The history tab is your friend. Most of what I do are minor fixes. [[User:Fat Nigger|Fat Nigger]] 11:37, 24 May 2009 (CEST)

Has any one here read the description about Ivy on his Avril Lavigne parody video? Apparently Ivy killed herself recently because she wasn't able to visit Chris in Ruckersville. What bullshit have you trolls been feeding him this time? And should someone (myself perhaps) update this page with news of "her death"? --[[User:James Yeaman|James Yeaman]] 12:26, 25 July 2009 (CEST)

==dead==
YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS!--[[User:Muserock7997|Muserock7997]] 15:30, 25 July 2009 (CEST)

*How about you add it to the actual article next time? --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 16:04, 25 July 2009 (CEST)

The Krapple quote isn't mine, but it LOL'd me so much! \^o^/ --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 06:37, 30 November 2009 (CET)

Oh my Dog! Why does Chris keep having people die so horribly and violently? Can't they just die without having to burn to death or asphyxiate painfully or reach terminal velocity or ''anything'' not so brutal? What part of Chris makes him do this? --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 03:05, 1 December 2009 (CET)

Does Chris plan to bump off every one of his remaining ex-girlfriends in this storyline? We should start a dead pool. 20 bucks says Kacey gets decapitated by a jagged broken window or something within 10 pages. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 04:17, 1 December 2009 (CET)
*No way man. Kacey will get kidnapped by the fiendish brown Sonichu who can never treat her right. --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:22, 1 December 2009 (CET)

== Who killed Ivy? ==

A small question - how did Chris figure out Ivy committed suicide? Did someone ''tell'' that to Chris, or did he just ''assume'' Ivy killed herself due to loneliness (like a certain famous lady who died in a fire)? When and how this was brought to Chris's attention, and what were his first reactions? Sauce is nice. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 13:45, 1 December 2009 (CET)
:In [[IRC (23 July 2009)]] Chris tried to spy amongst the trolls by going under the disguise of Bill Riley, yet being Chris still had his hostname being Sonichu. The trolls tagged him along and acted as if they didn't even noticed, and then gave the story that Ivy was TRUE and HONEST with Chris, but because she couldn't see him anymore she hung herself out of sorrow. Seeing how Chris was under disguise we never got a proper reaction, but I bet for at least 5 seconds he felt sad, and then he moved on. --[[User:Da-zen-man|Da-zen-man]] 21:07, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

==Need pic==

Can someone draw a pic of Ivy being strangled by elevator cables? I would do It but my drawing skills suck ass--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 18:27, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
*...why? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:24, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
** I'm pretty sure none of us need to know the answer to that one. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 19:38, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

== Phone calls ==

Were these recorded for any reason? I thought that Chris trolling was highly monitored. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 18:08, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
:Ivy wanted PVCC to respect her privacy(or something similar) and therefore her phone calls were not recorded.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 18:13, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

== Real or Not? ==
I'm getting a lot of confusing suggestions both that Ivy was real and wasn't real. Exactly what is the troll verdict? Is there even certainty either way? All of this seems to be left out in open, for instance: If it was trolls who mentioned Ivy's death, was she real and simply sick of him and his shit and excommunicated him and trying to spare his feelings by saying she wasn't allowed to talk to him anymore? Or was he a figment of his imagination that got out of control? (Y'know how if you lie about something for so long, you'll eventually believe the lie? Of course with Chris, it takes considerably less time.) --[[User:SerenityMoonstone|SerenityMoonstone]] 00:00, 12 August 2010.
:Best be trolling. But in case you're not, Ivy was a real girl in contact with Chris. She just wanted a shout-out from him in the Sonichu comics, but instead he latched onto her and she became the next gal-pal. I'm pretty sure the "Ivy killed herself" thing was an attempt to get Chris to show an emotion other than mildly nonplussed dead fish. Lurk more. --[[User:James Lamp-Eye|James Lamp-Eye]] 21:35, 11 August 2010 (PDT)

:Like the [[Ryan Cash]] story, it's open to speculation. I'm not sure anyone knows what is real and what is simply thundering around in Chris' dim mind. Of course since Ivy's death wasn't actually seen on-panel, a more skillful writer could tease us with it for a few arcs and then reveal her to be alive and well. Ivy could be [[Sonichu]]'s version of [http://spiderfan.org/characters/gwen_stacy.html Gwen Stacy], minus the Goblin babies. --[[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 14:04, 6 June 2011 (PDT)

Talk:Cherokian Clan

2011-06-06T20:54:46Z

The Iconoclast:

*Chris's drawings of American Indians are oddly similar to the way they are portrayed by Mormons. --[[User:Svek|Švek]] 11:52, 10 October 2010 (PDT)

*Does Chris not watch very many classic cartoons? Quite a few depict American Indians in, if not exactly realistic, at least, I don't know, a more swarthy, less European manner. "Wagon Heels" (Clampett, 1945) is a personal favorite. You can view it [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buHLr-lxvl0 here]. --[[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 13:54, 6 June 2011 (PDT)

Talk:Cherokian Clan

2011-06-06T20:54:31Z

The Iconoclast:

*Chris's drawings of American Indians are oddly similar to the way they are portrayed by Mormons. --[[User:Svek|Švek]] 11:52, 10 October 2010 (PDT)

*Does Chris not watch very many classic cartoons? Quite a few depict American Indians in, if not exactly realistic, at least, I don't know, a more swarthy, less European manner. "Wagon Heels" (Clampett, 1945) is a personal favorite. You can view it [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buHLr-lxvl0 here].
--[[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 13:54, 6 June 2011 (PDT)

Talk:Cherokian Clan

2011-06-06T20:54:13Z

The Iconoclast:

Talk:Chris and reality

2011-06-02T09:28:16Z

The Iconoclast: /* Alec calls */

I know most of this page is dedicated to how Chris screws up reality in the comics, but I couldn't let his latest videos go unnoticed. There was something odd about that statement that went beyond just the standard delusions of grandeur or unwarranted self-importance we've all grown used to. For a few brief moments, chris wasn't talking about being king of a media empire, he was talking about being mayor. --[[User:Beat|Beat]] 18:00, 24 November 2009 (CET)

I also think we should add how Chris believes his dog house weighs 10 tons or that a 12 pack of lemonade weighs 50 pounds. I think that's pretty out of touch with reality. [[User:CWCattack|CWCattack]] 18:22, 24 November 2009 (CET)

Chris talks about his own life as being "canon" and some aspects are "non-canon." I think I discussed this elsewhere but anyone think this should be mentioned here? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:19, 28 December 2009 (CET)
*I think it deserves mentioning.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 08:23, 28 December 2009 (CET)

That should absolutely be added. I think sections should also be added on his lack of understanding of the sciences (e.g. the vaccine in Issue 10, the physics of lifting heavy objects etc). Man, at this rate, he's going to think he can retcon life itself... [[Sub-Episode 2|ohwait]]. --[[User:SnorlaXBOX|SnorlaXBOX]] 08:30, 28 December 2009 (CET)

==Chris is the Mayor of Cwcville, VA, IN REAL LIFE==
[[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence]] is a goldmine. Choice bits follow, no idea how to utilize them. [[User:Fenny|Fenny]] 03:18, 1 January 2010 (CET)

=== THAT DOES NOT MATTER ===
I ASK that the Ads be LIMITED ONLY onto the Side-Bar and NO WHERE ELSE. I DO NOT GIVE A CRAP ABOUT Jack Thaddeus; HE IS NOT DOING HIS OWN HOMOSEXUAL MALE KIND ANY FAVORS by TICKING ME OFF LIKE HE HAS BEEN DOING.

I Have The Instinct, and I Have Already Snail-Mailed President Barack Obama on how this sort of bad advertisement is going on and how it is Wrong and should be made Illegal. On HOW if the Main Captain does not WANT or IS OFFENDED with the listed Ads within his own Website or Works, REGARDLESS of who controls the AdSpace, WOULD REMOVE THOSE ADS or face JAILTIME. And the F.B.I. would be FULLY INVOLVED in all this, and THEY have the Power, Tools and Balls to seek, hunt down and bring in the Individual Internet Trolls and Ad-Spammers.

I, Christian Weston Chandler, am NOT only the Mayor of Cwcville, VA, IN REAL LIFE as its Main Creator, but as such, without me, you would be just bored and not have my comics and stories to enjoy, and therefore, I am Captain of the Cwcipedia. I have full appreciation for being the Webmaster, but I will have Full Respect as Captain.

--ChrisChanSonichu 23:25, 31 December 2009 (CET)
*I love how he stops mid capslock to write "Jack Thaddeus" in normal text.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:24, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

== Size does not matter. ==

Reading from Left-To-Right in MOST Countries, as well as myself, I see the ads in the left first-off and Most Better anyway. Seeing the BIG Ad in the One Spot is as terrifying as the Flash Of Light at the Instant Millisecond of DEATH, or even, technologically, the Blue Screen Of Death. And Believe Me, IN DREAMS, and even IN MOMENTS within my mind while AWAKE, I HAVE SEEN AND FELT That Death Light. Not only is it the Most Horrifying Thing Ever, but I am LOOOONG NOT READY FOR IT YET.

== Sonichu Fact or Fiction ==

It's becoming increasingly interesting that Chris is referring to the trolls as "fiction." Does he think that Sonichu is real and that the stuff he does there affects people in real life? I can assume "yes" but I think someone needs to mailbag this. [[User:Double Nega|Double Nega]] 22:26, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

== Alec calls ==

I believe it was in [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 1]], Chris more or less believes (or at least this is the current prevailing theory) that there exists a "Toon World" ala [[Wikipedia:Who Framed Roger Rabbit?|Who Framed Roger Rabbit?]] where every created cartoon character exists in a plane of reality, which is why Chris was enraged by Alec's depiction of Sonichu canon characters because they have feelings and Chris emphasizes more with his fictional characters than actual people (which isn't totally crazy - [[autism|autistics]] have been known to empathize more with animals than people).

I'm glad this call was finally made public because it says A LOT about Chris's grip of reality, in that he more or less believes that cartoons are real in that they exist in some other plane of existence and that's why he's threatened by people drawing a pickle of Rosechu, because there exists a Rosechu who is genuinely alive and existing who is in pain about pickles being drawn onto her.
*I wonder if he's ever actually searched for the doorway to Toonworld? In ''[[Sonichu]]'' ep. 4.5, I think it is, he depicts himself as a real person who enters CWCVille through a portal in his closet and becomes a cartoon. Maybe he thinks that once he reaches the other side he can find the coveted [[china|tail]] he's never been able to get here. I rather think that even ink-and-paint girls, if they were real, would have more taste than that. --[[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 02:28, 2 June 2011 (PDT)

This needs to be incorporated into the article. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:30, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

*I wrote a little paragraph about this. I wasn't sure where to put it so feel free to move it. --[[User:Sack Thaddic|Sack Thaddic]] 22:28, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

I agree, but I'd like to point out it was in the second call, not the first. --[[User:Scarf|Scarf]] 21:53, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

This brings the Sonee porn into new light. New trolling tactic discovered. Draw CWCville burning to the ground repeatedly while the residents engage in depraved acts.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 22:12, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

A paragraph? This deserves far more. That Chris uses naive when Alec espouses disapproval means this idea is important to Chris. He doesn't want to kill Simonla because there is an actual Simonla out there in an acutal relationship with an actual Wild who would feel actual grief because of something of Chris' own doing. He doesn't like Sonichu getting abused in fanart because there's an actual Sonichu who sees this. This isn't something to tape on to the article, this IS the article. All the offhand things like "they can take of that themselves." make perfect sense. Chris isn't saying that his works don't need justification due to quality or something, he's saying that 'onichu and Rosechu are intelligent, living, breathing things, with opinions and feelings and that they exist because they were scribed. He's saying that his comic depicts an actual city full of people with souls and dreams. He's saying that by having God appear to intertwine Ivy and himself, God actually descended to intertwine them. This isn't a mere aspect of his delusion, this ''IS'' his delusion. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 23:20, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
*I agree. This article needs a massive rewrite and to be centered around these new facts. That Chris really does believe his fictional characters are real blows this whole thing wide open. Everything else is now minor information. THIS is what we should be focusing on. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 02:15, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

*I'd kinda suspected he thought his characters were sentient, but I never thought he'd actually admit to it point blank like that. [[User:Magic8Ball|Magic8Ball]] 11:20, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
*I'm not sure if we should go ahead with this right away - If it's definitely true, fair enough - It's CWCki gold. But we can't really be sure at the moment how much is Chris bullshitting to win an argument and/or get someone off his back. I think we should see if we can find a way to confirm this for sure, perhaps with some Mailbag letters. - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 14:16, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

*This is probably just some minor bullshit everyone already knows anyways, but I think it deserves a mention, at least on this discussion page. Despite framing his worldview after Roger Rabbit, he displays a surprising lack of knowledge of the reality of that movie's universe. In Roger Rabbit, the cartoons are simply actors, not living out the comics. I dunno, I just thought it was an interesting disconnect.[[User:ProtoAuthor|ProtoAuthor]] 17:20, 20 February 2011 (PST)

== Facts ==

From the newly released Autisim awareness E-mails:

"For your information, the Fact of Aspergers being different from Autism and of it trying to steal the light is of MY Own Idea. I will NEVER conform to such a blasphemous link of any kind between the two."

There are a variety of ways this can be interpreted, but from a glance it looks like Chris is under the impression that he can just decide something is a fact and it will be so.

That's actually kinda horrifying.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 19:57, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:Simple solution. What he means is that it's his opinion that it is a fact that autism is not Aspergers, and nothing will change that opinion. He doesn't state it as an "opinion" because he knows that opinions mean shit. He's not aware that this phrasing make him look crazy.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 21:22, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

== Unrealistic Expectations ==
I was thinking of adding a section inspired by the Jerry Seinfeld portion of [[Some Favored Comedians|the latest video]] concerning Chris's entirely unrealistic expectations (the attraction sign leading to a long term romance and Sonichu The Game eventually being released on the PS3 being the most notable instances). Don't have time to do it now but I thought I'd mention it here in case anyone has any thoughts or wants to get it started.--[[User:Star Platinum|Star Platinum]] 05:57, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

== "Chris and Science" ==

I'm thinking if there is enough material to make such a section--- I had also thought of making a "Chris and Education" page, touching both the book-smarts Chris should have learned, and the life-lessons that life, his parents, and his experience with trolls should have taught him, but it alreay exists as a listing of his schools--- The basic thing I'm going for was his denial of the Autism/Aspergers link, noting the irony that if it weren't for the scientists he denounces, Autism itself wouldn't have been discovered and he'd be executed in that hypothetical Theocratic world for having demons. Beyond that, I am unsure if there's enough material for a full section. Like I could kinda argue his preception of Causality, and I don't think it should be too redundant with the Shaman section. --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 01:42, 24 September 2010 (PDT)

==2004 Office Confrontation==

"During a 2004 confrontation with Mary Lee Walsh, Chris began to converse with thin air, pretending that Sonichu was in the office with him. At one point, Chris began to pretend that he was Sonichu and started giving a speech that he said that "Sonichu" wanted to give to Mary, which explains why Mary ordered him to see a psychiatrist. Chris also, usually before crashing into slumber, pretends to converse with Sonichu and Rosechu, at one point claiming that the pair offered him relationship advice. Whether or not he converses with the other characters is unknown at the moment."

I noticed there's no source on this. Where did it come from? The MLW article Chris wrote doesn't mention it. [[User:Isarko|Isarko]] 17:36, 22 November 2010 (PST)
*It came from the Jackie chats and e-mails. Chris first brought it up in one of the chats, and Jackie asked for more info in the e-mails.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 18:12, 22 November 2010 (PST)

Talk:Chandler Cats

2011-06-02T09:17:07Z

The Iconoclast:

{{Scamper}}

Scamper is my favorite so I made template that says as much. FUCKING USE IT!--[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 21:21, 1 May 2009 (CEST)
: No I am pretty sure Lucy is the best. Those eyes goan getcha. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 06:36, 6 May 2009 (CEST)
:: Kitty is the best because kitty has the best ''hate''. We all need to learn to hate like kitty.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 20:37, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::: People! People! We all know Desi is the superior cat!--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 06:04, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
:::: Agreed. He reminds me of my own cat, '''Lana''' (''aka'' '''Miss Lana''' and '''Lana, Queen of Cats'''). --[[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 02:17, 2 June 2011 (PDT)

== Factual Content ==

Recently, it has come to my attention that there is little factual content in this article. The claims that the Chandler cats are not house trained and "shit everywhere" may be grossly exaggerated. The only cited instance of cat feces is in [[Vivitheg's AIM chat]], where Chris complains of an accident in the kitchen. Any pet owner can attest that pets have accidents once in a blue moon, and one incident doesn't warrant a claim that there is "Cat shit everywhere". Please keep your eyes open for examples that prove the chandler cats are not house-trained.--[[User:Megaman|''Megaman!'' ]] [[Image:MegaManXRunning.gif]] 09:14, 8 December 2009 (CET)
*Spoiler - most of the CWCki is "grossly exaggerated" (see Chris's alleged pedophillia, racism, etc.). Sometimes it's a bit much but it's for dramatic effect. Also, have you seen the house vids? In a house like that, they probably wouldn't be reluctant to shit everywhere. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:39, 8 December 2009 (CET)

*You know, in retrospect, Megaman has sorta has a point. That's something we need to work on. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:36, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
*When Chris had to come up with an excuse to escape Alec, the first thing he thought up was "The cat shat on the floor". Given Chris's utter lack of creativity, that makes me think that it's a fairly common occurrence. But if you're worried about factuality, just say that they "may" not be house trained and "may" shit everywhere.
*I've read that cats who shit freely anywhere within the household feel superior to their masters. Now,either the Chandler cats see Bob,Barb,and Chris as inferior to them or the house is cluttered with so much crap the cats tend to shit themselves before arriving to the litter box. Just a bit of info on cats. Even animals don't think much of the Chandlers.--[[User:Bealtespip122|Bealtespip122]] 21:21, 3 September 2010 (PDT)

== R.I.P. Desi and Skittles. ==

Judging by the Jackie Emails, Desi and Skittles are either completely dead or completely missing, as Chris says he has only 3 cats and names the other three.--[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 20:21, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:Desi probably ran off. Skittles being so damn old is probably dead. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 23:27, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::Dead or missing, at least they're in a better place. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 00:34, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Desi looked like an awesome cat. The Chandlers did not deserve her. Well, they don't deserve any living creature, really. --[[User:Inferno232|Inferno232]] 19 June 2010
:::: Nooo! *cries* Desi was my favorite cat!--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 06:04, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Chris and art

2011-06-02T09:08:35Z

The Iconoclast: /* Chris knows his art is childish. Sort of. */

== To do ==
* ED had, somewhere or sometime or somehow, copies of the drawings that Chris traced to produce the Rosechu "self-centerfolds". Please add them - good examples of exactly how he traces poses and stuff.
** I would but I'm not saving that shit to this computer...here are the pictures anyway if there's someone less squeamish who is willing to do it. [http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Image:Chrischantraced.jpg] [http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Image:Chrischantraced2.jpg] [http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Image:Chrischantraced3.jpg] [http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Image:Chrischantraced4.jpg] [http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Image:Chrischantraced5.jpg] --[[User:James Lamp-Eye|James Lamp-Eye]] 23:28, 7 October 2009 (CEST)
== ... ==

Something tells me that Chris never gives a jack about using the basic shapes. Has he ever picked up a how-to-draw book in his life?
:Methinks he either hasn't, or that the most advanced he ever had were along the lines of "How to Draw Sonic the Hedgehog." I've heard the style described as "colored-in outlines," common among rank amateurs. Rather than blocking out anatomy, they just draw a rough outline of what the character is shaped like, creating a gruesome mess. [[User:Ensign disposable|Ensign disposable]] 22:44, 10 September 2009 (CEST)

Finally, a new analysis page I can get into! I added a bit about how it appears he does no practice or sketching. I actually think that's the main reason his drawings are so terrible. He DOES show some improvement over time, which indicates the capacity for it... but he's so lazy that he won't put in the effort to make use of it. <strike>Nearly anyone</strike> Everyone who can draw worth a damn has a hundred hideous sketches for every good drawing (Trust me, as a drawfag and former psuedo-art-student, I know all too well.). As Chuck Jones said, everyone's got a hundred thousand bad drawings in 'em. Chris is just too lazy to get them out. - [[User:Needlepants|Needlepants]] 02:38, 4 October 2009 (CEST)

==First Known Drawing==

That picture of Sonic was from when he was FIFTEEN?! Holy ''shit''! I thought that was EARLIER THAN THAT! That looks like an 9-10 year old drew that! Not that his artwork has improved that much, but JESUS! --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 19:00, 22 September 2009 (CEST)
*I'm guessing it's a joke, but you'd be surprised... --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:22, 8 October 2009 (CEST)
:*Just thought of something - Sonic didn't come out until 1991. This means Chris must have been at least 9 when he made that. Still shitty art for a 9 year old. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:28, 8 October 2009 (CEST)
::* Eh, if it were drawn when he was nine, it's not that bad. If it were indeed drawn when he was 15, then holy crap. - [[User:Needlepants|Needlepants]] 19:06, 25 October 2009 (CET)
I'd like to see a source on that- not that I think it's impossible, but just to be sure. He was definitely at least nine, though, since that's when Sonic first came out. [[User:Pugs Malone|Pugs Malone]] 19:46, 22 September 2009 (CEST)

== Comic writing ==

Here's something I've been thinking lately: I could go on and on about Chris as a comic writer and the various corners he has painted himself into, but I don't think this page is the appropriate place for that, because it mostly covers his visual gaffes. Should we split this into something like "Chris and writing"? I know we have [[Chris and English]], but that's more for deep-level language, word use and semantic analysis rather than exploring Chris's writing on higher level. Also, such writing page could cover Chris's failures in his other literary achievements. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 12:29, 2 December 2009 (CET)
* Yeah, I think a "Chris and Writing" section would really work in this case. --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 17:24, 2 December 2009 (CET)

== Chris knows his art is childish. Sort of. ==

Chris has been insisting in his personalized Mailbag 50 that he knows his art is childish because he is "trying to push the envelope on the standards of quality" and that he's trying to envoke "childish innocence" and bullshit like that. Where would the best section be to talk about this? [[User:Fefnir|Fefnir]] 21:23, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

: I think we should put up some small-children's drawings and compare them side by side for good measure. Perhaps that will give a more accurate perspective of Chris's quality. Anyone else think this is a good idea? I've already started looking for decent comparisons to contrast with Chris [[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 12:23, 12 May 2010 (EST)

I've noticed that many of his poses are awkward, forced, and stiff. For example, look at when Sonichu or Chris-Chan Sonichu throw a punch. Chris tends to draw the impact as an orangeish-yellow blob, with no sound effect, and it just looks like he's smashing an overripe fruit into some chump's face. Does he even pay attention to the cartoons he watches so religiously? He could at least study their techniques to get a more fluid, kinetic feel to his art. --[[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 02:08, 2 June 2011 (PDT)

== Rewrite ==

I've just given this article a major rewrite. I ended up cutting out almost seventeen thousand characters, but I did my best to keep the message of the article intact and consistent. I apologize if my revision seems too drastic. [[User:CWCspatcher|CWCspatcher]] 04:38, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
: Great work. Also a good proof that I have a tendency to ramble needlessly and often need an editor. =) --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 19:31, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Glad you liked it. I'm most of the way done with a like-styled rewrite of "Chris and Writing." [[User:CWCspatcher|CWCspatcher]] 20:20, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

== His Fan Fiction??? ==

I could have sworn that Chris has some Fan Fiction about himself being a super-powered chick or something and blowing up his school...What ever happened to it? [[User:The Brave|The Brave]] 15:13, 30 November 2010 (PST)
: [[The High School Story]]? Not really related to art, except that some trolls adapted it into a pretty nice comic... --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 12:01, 2 December 2010 (PST)

== Pen Holding Technique..? ==

Em... I feel so stupid, now. I hold mine the very same way (Tablet Pen, Pen, Pencil... Anything of the like), even though my chopstick holding technique is how I SHOULD hold a pen. I can be casual with light sketching, but tighter lines and details call for a shift to that hold style...

But I use thicker pens with grips so it's comfortable...

Is than an Autism/Aspergers thing? I ask because it's odd that I've used the same technique since I was at least 5-8, and I've got Aspergers.

Granted, my art is easily better than his (isn't all of ours?), and I took some basic and then some classes in art (as in not standard school ones), and they simply worked around that problem. I should note that a teacher commented that my penciling and the like is better than my painting. Can't keep a brush steady too long...

But I found it kinda bizarre and alarming that he holds the pencil the same way as me, and draws like that...
--[[User:AsperGirl|AsperGirl]] 19:53, 23 January 2011 (PST)

Talk:Ryan Cash

2011-06-02T07:45:36Z

The Iconoclast: /* Is this for real? */ new section

==To do==
*Chris's comments to Ryan's family
*Ryan in the comic (make note he paid more attention to his sweethearts [Chris that is]).
*Artist depiction of Ryan --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:44, 10 February 2009 (CET)

Just suggesting:

* 'committed suicide upon himself' quote
* how CWC is indeed responsible, kind of
--[[User:Jump|Jump]] 16:06, 2 May 2009 (CEST)

==Joke==

I can't believe I have to do this, but the "your" on the page is a joke. So don't change it, mmmkay? --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 04:42, 3 May 2009 (CEST)
* Derp, thought it might've been after the 100th time it was reverted. Afraid my grammar nazism comes before my knowledge of memes. >: I'll add a comment about that to the page. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 03:37, 11 November 2009 (CET)
==Rollback==
Rolled back edits regarding the implication that Clyde is still alive and hunting Chris. I don't think that is really public or planned yet. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 00:26, 17 November 2009 (CET)

== Is this for real? ==

I mean, if Ryan Cash killed himself over a barely passable web-distributed comic, it would suggest he had some real demons. Sure, Chris isn't exactly Mr. Empathy, but to pin the boy's suicide on him and [[Sonichu]] seems a bit much. If it hadn't been this, it'd have been something else that set him off. I'm a former psychology major; I know these things. There are red flags to look out for. Had Ryan exhibited any unusual behavior prior to this? Had he sought counseling? Just curious.

Of course, if the whole Ryan thing is just an elaborate [[troll]] prank...well, brother, that's a whole new level of depravity right there, whomping up a story about a dead boy and then using it to guilt-trip some poor muddlehead with an already tenebrous grip on reality. --[[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 00:45, 2 June 2011 (PDT)

Talk:Christian Weston Chandler

2011-03-13T13:56:02Z

The Iconoclast: /* You forgot to mention... */

...Okay, is it just me, or does Chrissy look drastically different when he's wearing his glasses compared to when he's not? Like, I almost can't believe it's the same person. I mean, I can, since no one else could possibly be that much of a fucktard, but he just looks really different. Or am I imagining it? [[User:Ayvuir|Ayvuir]]
*Hey, it works for Superman. [[User:Ensign disposable|Ensign disposable]] 14:09, 7 September 2009 (CEST)

==To do==
*pics of Chris, especially young Chris and the funny ones
*life history
*brief outline of his views
*his future outlook
I'll do what I can to help this page along. I'm a wiki noob, learning as I go here. So, it won't look the best... [[User:MajorIronwood|MajorIronwood]]

We should add a sentence or two on the fact that he thinks he can call himself Christopher, just because it share the same abbreviation as Christian.~[[User:gourmetpickle|gourmetpickle]]
:Christopher WAS his name, until he changed to Christian when he was 12.--[[User:UncleBastard|UncleBastard]] 20:43, 10 March 2009 (CET)
:Boy, do I feel stupid. But then again, if he changed his name, he should have to pick or the other.~[[User:gourmetpickle|gourmetpickle]]
::That reminds me, we should add a few sentences about why he changed his name - I forget where but he had some story (maybe it was in the DVD slideshow) where he says how some teacher kept calling him "Christian" and the name "had a ring to it" so he changed it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:52, 17 March 2009 (CET)
:::In addition, from [[CWC's_Pokésite_2| El PokéSite 2]], Christian considers his Spanish name to be Ricardo - Likely named after the Ricky Ricardo character from ''I Love Lucy''. Realistic equivalents might be found in ''Cris'', ''Cristián'', or ''Cristóbal'', but clearly these were not featured in the television shows he had watched prior to his High School Spanish classes. [[User:Mall Conductor Bear|Mall Conductor Bear]] 09:25, 12 May 2009 (CEST)
::::To be fair, one's "Spanish name" need not be the same as their real name. For example, in 7th grade my Spanish name was Jose, though my name isn't Joseph, and in 10th grade I was Che, even though I'm not Argentinian. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:02, 1 June 2009 (CEST)
:::More Name Crap: "-Chan" suffix is generally used for a little girl in Japanese. Chris is ''possibly'' too dense to realize this, and enjoys the similar pronunciation to 'Christian'. In doing so, there was no need to create a word jumble of existing letters, as that convention was given to his ''more open'' [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc|alter-ago]]. [[User:LBearington|LBearington]] 05:25, 1 June 2009 (CEST)

==Racism and Noviophobia==
Evidence of it goes back further than was previously thought. Read the notice to guys on [[Media:511-JumboLoveQuestSign.JPG|this sign]] from when he was 21. "(and to all MEN with girlfriends, except marrieds and blacks, go jump off a cliff)". Where the white women at? --[[User:Tumbleweed|Tumbleweed]] 04:10, 26 March 2009 (CET)
*I don't think that's racism though, because he's saying EXCEPT blacks. I think maybe he's paranoid about telling black people to jump off a cliff, because otherwise that's a hate crime. Sorta like when he made that post on his MySpace "I Respect the African American People." --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:12, 26 March 2009 (CET)
*Possibly, but since he's already stated that he simply doesn't like black people, I don't think it's likely. And besides, I don't think it would make much sense to make a special exception to black people unless you were hyper PC or just afraid of black people. (not to mention that he explicitly asks for only white women in later requests / demands / whines) --[[User:Tumbleweed|Tumbleweed]] 09:48, 26 March 2009 (CET)
*Yeah, it's racism. He's saying "Blacks don't need to jump off a cliff, because I'm using my outdated and quriky view that blacks stick with blacks relationship wise, and the same is true for whites. So, I don't worry about blacks impeding on my 'love quest.'" However, I don't think Chris would be able to articulate that well. --[[User:Tregnier2795|Tregnier2795]]
*Just a thought, should there be a separate article that would count how many times he's been racist other than his views of [[niggo]]s? --[[User:AntonImausMk2|AntonImausMk2]] 04:29, 3 November 2009 (CET)

== Mr. Darcy is much better than Chris, y'hear. ==

I had it noted, along with a picture of Colin Firth as Mr. Darcy to compare the two, that Mr. Darcy and Chris are in no way similar. This came about from the cliche "Well, he's no Mr. Darcy..."

I think it's a good visual aid. --[[User:Tregnier2795|Tregnier2795]]

==Let me tell you about this page==
It's great. It's fantastic. I read it for the first time in a while and I think it's the perfect, concise intro to Chris. The ED article on Chris sucks because it's so all over the place. True, we have the luxury of being a devoted wiki that instead of having to go into depth about Sonichu, we can just link to the article. The ED article is shit because it goes over the place, it's a bit out of date, and it picks poor samples of Chris's videos like just highlighting the "gaybian" vid. This is a fantastic article and this is why people come to us. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 10:03, 1 December 2009 (CET)

== Since there's no actual "Chris and..." page ==

I hope it's okay to discuss it here. I was wondering if a "Chris and Intelligence" page can be of any use. Some things to cover are his 1) logic, 2) academics and 3) philosophy (to cover his stupid quotes and advice). --[[User:AntonImausMk2|AntonImausMk2]] 09:56, 7 December 2009 (CET)
*That's sorta what [[honor roll]] is at the moment, though it really should be expanded to that as opposed to the focus on art (which really isn't what honor roll is about). Why I suggest honor roll because Chris will say something like "I'm smart, I was on honor roll." "I know math, I was on honor roll for the love of God!," etc. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 10:07, 7 December 2009 (CET)

We need a "Chris and Aspergers Syndrome" page. --[[User:CJB8895|Cody]]
==CWC split?==
"CWC" should redirect here, but I'm thinking maybe we should make a page devoted to Chris's initials. He uses them a lot, they're a recurring motif in his work, and we can even keep track of when he uses them as a pun (like "A CWC Audition"). Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 10:09, 7 December 2009 (CET)

==Page Needed==
Chris and Reliability - [[User:CJB8895|Cody]]

== cleaned-up, needs to be expanded/updated ==

--[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 22:29, 29 December 2009 (CET)

== Contact information? ==

Okay. I realise I will be stepping into what can only be described as but a cat's whisker from the maw of hell- but I would like to talk to Christian Weston Chandler. I have a great deal of things to discuss with him and, rest assured, there will be luls. What is the best way to get in touch with him these days? I tried Facebook, but he doesn't seem to be checking it very often (I'm guessing he has a lot of trolls talk to him). I've also taken to staking out his AIM, but I'm guessing he doesn't use that either due to people spamming him with JULAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:26, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
:Are you a licensed therapist or religious official? Because I think a team of a shrink, a priest, and a journalist would be needed at this point. [[Vivian Gee]] tried to get through to him, Lord love her, but she's not a doctor--didn't even finish high school, I do believe. Look...I've had my share of problems growing up, and I know no one can compliment you and make you feel like a turd all at the same time like a [[Mary Lee Walsh|school admin]]. I've got a kid brother who is an unrepentant drug addict and thief, who probably could have been reached if we'd gotten to him sooner. He's now a burned-out piece of crap who is on his third (maybe fourth, I've lost count) jail term. He's about Chris-Chan's age. I say someone better do something or else Chris'll be in jail or an institution before he's thirty, and then he'll be the taxpayer's problem. What will they do when his folks croak off? He's got a couple of half-siblings, but they've got their own lives to lead; they don't need a man-child with a lukewarm I.Q. underfoot. Could we live with ourselves if he flips out and kills a bunch of people in a mall or a campus somewhere, and maybe we could have done something if we'd been proactive five or three, or even just a year ago, to prevent it? [[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 19:37, 28 January 2011 (PST)
::Although it pains me to have to use the phrase, the CWCki is not a forum. Take shit like this elsewhere. Also, you're responding to a 10-month-old comment. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 20:27, 28 January 2011 (PST)
I don't own a PS3 so somehow contacting him via the Playstation Network is also out. I live in Australia, so this makes things difficult. Thoughts? Suggestions? [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 14:20, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
:It's pointless to try and talk to Chris, as he will just ignore you. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 14:42, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
::Alec knows his personal phone number. I think that if you ask him nicely he might tell you. He certainly dosn't owe Chris anything. His Asperpedia account is ALBASPERCHU and his email is albasperchu(at)live.com --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:40, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
*1) please sign your comments (it's four tildas [~] in a row). 2) Chris's contact info should be in [[14 Branchland Court]], 3) if it isn't, it should be there. I think Cogs didn't want it with the logic is that if you have to ask for Chris's phone number and can't find it yourself when he's mentioned it frequently, you really shouldn't be trolling Chris. However, people asking for it all the time is annoying and it defeats the purpose of CWCki being an open source of information.
** Actually, I tried calling that number but either I fucked up international dialing (entirely possible) or it was disconnected (which is what I thought it said). [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:26, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
:That aside, I can guarantee that Chris will not listen to your call.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:26, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
::I know he'll ignore me, but at least it'll be funny. I'm not attempting to, directly, help him. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:26, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
:CWCki is not a place to discuss how to troll or help Chris, if you want to contact Chris, do it, it won't have any effect on him whatsoever.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 03:21, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
* I'd actually love to know if there's some online contact information at all. Inquiring minds need to know, since he evidently doesn't go on IRC anymore. anyone know where he can regularly be found? [[User:Boop|Boop]] 05:29, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
**I've yet to be able to find anything besides an AOL address. Does he still use that account? [[User:PrimeMinisterStephanHarper|PrimeMinisterStephanHarper]] 17:26, 27 September 2010 (PDT)

== Misapplication of social rules ==

Maybe this comment should go under the Autism page or the Honesty page but it seems like Chris's view of "Honesty" is likely influenced by an unspoken rule amongst nerdier internet communities where being extremely, unnecessarily open in private, especially with things verifiable by a third party, is seen as a way to build trust, due to the fact it is difficult if not impossible to establish it otherwise. My point being, he may have picked this sort of 'honesty' up from a geeky community somewhere. [[User:Insidious611|Insidious611]] 05:06, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I will note said openness doesn't USUALLY extend to ones bowel issues or other information nobody in their right mind would want to know. But it may extend to relationships and especially trouble therein. [[User:Insidious611|Insidious611]] 05:07, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

== You forgot to mention... ==

''Christian Weston Chandler (born Christopher Weston Chandler on 24 February 1982) is a perverse, narcissistic, homophobic, sexist, racist, overweight, delusional "high-functioning autistic" virgin etc. etc.''

What about "uncultured" (as shown by his not knowing the story of ''To Kill a Mockingbird'''' and thinking Molvania is a real place) and "tone deaf" (his so called "album", need I say more?)[[User:Knucklechu|Knucklechu]] 10:20, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
:If the purpose of this article was to make a list of all the negative adjectives that could be applied to Chris, it would be 20 pages long.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 11:53, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
**Oh, er... I just got done adding a bunch of those. This is going to be the first sentence of the first page that a lot of people are going to look at. If there's this really stupid, unwieldy list of all the totally horrible, totally accurate descriptors, they'll be like, "No way, no one can be that bad." But they'll... y'know... —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 03:40, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

==Anagram crackers==
''Interestingly, "clownish tender anarchist" is a perfect anagram of Chris' full name.''

So is "antichrist enhances world". [[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 06:56, 13 March 2011 (PDT)

Talk:Layla

2011-03-12T23:19:26Z

The Iconoclast: Created page with "[http://www.80scartoons.co.uk/getalong/getalonggang.jpg Possible inspiration for Layla's look]? (left-hand side, second from bottom) ~~~~"

[http://www.80scartoons.co.uk/getalong/getalonggang.jpg Possible inspiration for Layla's look]? (left-hand side, second from bottom) [[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 15:19, 12 March 2011 (PST)

User talk:The Iconoclast

2011-03-04T23:52:34Z

The Iconoclast: /* JSM */

== Tips ==
Messages should go on the talk page, bro. I've already moved your post over there. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 23:14, 6 January 2011 (PST)

==We're a lot alike, you and me... ==
In what way are you not like Chris? Because you seem at least as pathetic as him. I guess plagiarists need to stick together, eh? [[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]]
::Lets see: Widespread <s>plagiarism</s> artistic borrowing, a lack of artistic unity, a lack of professional quality in works that are presented as such (hello vanity publishing/sonichu copyright), self promotion in unrelated places, and a superpowered SI surrounded by <s>boyfriend free girls</s> women to make up for an underwhelming real life... Yeah, it's like I'm reading Sonichu© light. We've even got the same regurgitation of tv lines. - [[User:Kei|Kei]] 12:14, 8 January 2011 (PST)
:::You're just another faggot who says "I'm better than Chris" to justify their existence while at the same time doing the same stupid bullshit (making comics NO ONE READS) at the same time. Go away. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 11:56, 15 January 2011 (PST)

==i don't like you==
You're just another faggot who says "I'm better than the people who troll Chris who ARE EVIL PEOPLE so therefore I'm fucking awesome" to justify their existence while at the same time doing stupid bullshit (making comics almost 5 people read) at the same time. Go away. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 01:50, 16 January 2011 (PST)

==sup son==
Your one of my least favourite members on this board. Your litteraly homosexual, your a furry, your a juggalo, you like fat women, you wanted to fuck your mother, you mother fucker, you like to take it up the ass and suck dick and u brag about it, and u think you are way funnier than you really are. [[User:Sully|Sully]] 11:03, 16 January 2011 (PST)

==Why do you hate America's children?==
Do you ''not'' want kids to eat food that actually has some sort of nutritional value? Are you '''IN FAVOR OF CHILDHOOD OBESITY'''? [[User:Massive Dynamic|Massive Dynamic]] 14:38, 16 January 2011 (PST)

'''I don't want Michelle Obama telling me what snacks I may consume'''

The bill only applies to public schools, which are federally funded. It's the federal government passing a law that affects a federal institution. Should they not be able to control something in their own organization? It won't affect what snacks get stuck in the beard you meticulously crafted using the Spray tool in MSPaint.

And children's programming was always stupid and full of fluff. Why are you watching kiddie shows at your age, anyway? [[User:Massive Dynamic|Massive Dynamic]] 11:24, 17 January 2011 (PST)

You still didn't answer my question about why you watch so many kids shows in the first place. The 80s stuff, I guess I can understand. It makes you nostalgic for the time when we didn't have ratings and when Z. Cavariccis were popular or whatever. But why, in your late 20s did you just suddenly get into Pokemon and Histeria? Or Kim Possible for that matter.

If you had to take care of your kids or nephew or younger siblings and that's what they watched, I could see you getting a little kick out of it. Or if you were a pothead, that's a valid excuse. Potheads eat and watch all kinds of things when they're bored and high. But you're a straitlaced arch-conservative mystery "writer" who doesn't have any kids and judging by your general demeanor and your Chris-Chanian dream of returning to college solely for the cable and the coochie, you won't have any. [[User:Massive Dynamic|Massive Dynamic]] 10:23, 18 January 2011 (PST)

P.S. Your shitty comic's self-insert protagonist looks like Arthur. Stop watching PBS, son.

==Get out of bed!==
''[walks into Icon's bedroom, making furnace noises through snuffle]'' f-f-f-f-f ''[in a normal voice]'' Get out of bed! Snuffle-uffle-snuffle-uffle-snuffle-uffle-snuffle-uffle... --[[User:Snuffleupagus|Snuffleupagus]] 06:41, 17 January 2011 (PST)

==Virginal Plagiarist==
He also steals ideas, and ain't never got no sex. He did meet a girl once, and she was creeped out by him. He's still stalking her.
[[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]] 10:05, 17 January 2011 (PST)

== Nice Site-- NOT ==

McAfee found a virus the moment I opened your site in a new tab. Now I'm never reading your shit.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 16:20, 17 January 2011 (PST)

==College Relationships==
What's wrong with sluts? Just because you couldn't fuck a slut? What's you plan? "Hey guys! There's this slut running around, and she totally wants dick, and she's rela easy as long as you aren't a total creep! She'll fuck you and suck the male essence from your cock! WATCH OUT FOR THAT ONE"

I'd be keeping an eye out for her too.

Because I like easy sex. Why do you hate fun? [[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]] 10:36, 18 January 2011 (PST)
==Re: "Fuzzy Door empire", Books for college, the “ObamaCable Box”& dorm-brothels==
There’s a huge difference: they get their work published and they get paid for it. Getting money for writing and vanity publishing with the hope that it will net you money isn't the same thing and I don’t think I’ve ever heard of someone making a consequential amount through the second way. Seriously, you’d be better off if you just took a govt grant and loans(I know they happen to be your own [[Greene County Conspiracy| Green County]] and all but...) for the sake of finishing school: the networking you’d get from dealing with the staff would in itself help you at publishing more than anything you’re currently doing.
And what, I really hope you don’t think college is supposed to be like that.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 20:32, 18 January 2011 (PST)

== Hey ==

Hey you, you know, I've been keeping an eye on you. You and me should be friends, you know? We could go places you see. I'm at this forum, PVCC, we need moderators. I say it might be something for you, no? Contact me, or we could maybe talk on Skype. Delicioso, comprendre? [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 16:07, 18 January 2011 (PST)
* Yeah, something like that, I also like how you're standing up against FreeCell's bullshit. We need some freedom in here. Hasta la victoria siempre, mi compadre. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 05:36, 19 January 2011 (PST)

==Ok let me explain this to you==

I'm literally inches away from banning you. Removing talk page messages is vandalism, even if it's on your own page, unless you have permission from the author. For 3 days I've reverted this same edit. Do it again and you're gone. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 00:10, 19 January 2011 (PST)

==Here's the Deal==

People are telling me that I'm correct in thinking that removing messages from your own talk page counts as something I can ban. I'm going to wait until Champthom is online so I can get his opinion, because he knows the rules better than probably anyone else. You might be unbanned or you might be permabanned, depending on what I hear from Champ. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 01:17, 19 January 2011 (PST)

== Hey hey hey ==

Just thought you might want to know you're getting [http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Iconoclast#Iconoclast_the_Liberal pretty famous] out there. Looks like you're one step closer to geting the exposure you wanted.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 18:08, 23 February 2011 (PST)
* It'd be funny if their research wasn't so criminally sloppy and the whole article completely biased. What even qualifies me as a liberal? I hate change and work daily to defund and dial it back. Also, the Kim Possible jokes are getting old fast. For the record, it's the government's fault I can only watch children's shows on the weekend, with all the boneheaded E/I regulation. When I was a kid, I was a huge fan of womens' wrestling.

:'''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHblvQ4nz_s ''G.L.O.W.'': Col. Ninotchka vs. Little Feather and Ebony]'''

:What, not educational enough? Tell them that a half-naked Russian woman beating up a half-naked native American woman teaches multiculturalism, feminist studies, and history. The left is dumb enough to buy that, right? [[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]]
::Uh, if you're having problems with lackluster socialist television, you can always look into cable and satellite providers. You know, revel in the benefits of the free market. A lot of companies even include an introductory premium package for the first three months or so at no extra charge. You can get all the softcore porn you want on Cinemax. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 16:10, 25 February 2011 (PST)
:I'm saving up for a new dish. I found I can watch some shows online, but I've missed a whole season of ''The Simpsons'' and ''Family Guy'' in the meantime. Also, I can't find last Monday's ep of ''Two and a Half Men'', or full eps of ''Shit My Dad Says'', at Hulu. TV has changed a lot since I was a kid, I'm just saying. You can't even find classic Warner Bros. and MGM cartoons on cable anymore--you have to go to YouTube, or spring for DVDs. Is a copy of "The Great Piggy Bank Robbery" worth that much bread just for an extras menu featuring unused storyboards and John K's 20-min sermon on the history of forties-era rubberhose? [[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 18:36, 25 February 2011 (PST)
::Is this really relevant to... anything? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 23:19, 25 February 2011 (PST)

== JSM ==

I was comparing your initials to those of CWC and I noticed they spell out JSM. Is this conspiracy or coincidence? [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 14:23, 1 March 2011 (PST)

>> It's '''JMS'''. And your point being? [[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 15:52, 4 March 2011 (PST)

POST-SCRIPT:

"Research for my next book. I'm currently reading Vivian's treatment of Chris in "A Girl Who Brought Down the World", and I think autism is the way to go with my story's main character, compounded by an overprotective mother figure and a cruel prank by schoolyard trolls." --[[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 11:10, 15 January 2011 (PST)

Are you still planning on 'writing' this story? Holla back yo. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 14:32, 1 March 2011 (PST)
:Do you have a manuscript, and may I see your synopsis? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 14:40, 1 March 2011 (PST)
>>Originally the novel was a sort of ''Silas Marner'' homage about a hermit with a clubfoot who befriends a 10-year-old boy. An agent I showed the ms. to didn't like it; she didn't think a dentist (another character in the book) was a very interesting protagonist. I lost the ms., about 60,000 words, in a computer crash. I tried to make a go of recreating it, but saw it split into two stories--one about the boy, who was now a spunky female journalist, and the other about a deformed, insane loner living alone, unseen, in the basement of his old house, now occupied by renters. There's also a subplot about a guy-and-gal team of international spies who travel the globe fighting crime, with their pet oscelot. [[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 15:52, 4 March 2011 (PST)

::I'm pretty sure this is it here LOLOLOLOLOLOL:
http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Christian_Weston_Chandler
Get it? It's a plagiarism joke. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 15:41, 1 March 2011 (PST)

>>Not funny. Just stupid. [[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 15:52, 4 March 2011 (PST)

User talk:The Iconoclast

2011-02-26T02:36:30Z

The Iconoclast: /* Hey hey hey */

User talk:Xanabit

2011-02-26T02:35:59Z

The Iconoclast: /* IlPalazzo and Y2K!Chris have disappeared */

==Not A Forum==

{{Not A Forum}}

CWCki talkpages are not forums. Discontinue using talk pages for discussion. Your Autism is no excuse. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 03:17, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

==Your Fan Art==

I just want to tell you that your fan art is awesome and much appreciated. You don't know how satisfying it is for me to see pictures of those [[Sonee & Rosey|little fuckers]] being brutally tortured/murdered. : ) --[[User:Alcoholic Legend|Alcoholic Legend]] 00:56, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks, I just wish I was a better artist. The horrible sadness is Chris has had more practice drawing since graduating high school than I have. :( --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 01:01, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I like the way you draw them. It helps me feel less sorry for them.-[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 00:52, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:You have given nightmares and for that i salute you.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 00:56, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Hey, just wanted to tell ya I saw all the stuff you drew on /cwc/ and think it's just as awesome as the story art. The Father's Day picture (one of my favorites) alone would be enough to get Chris angry (although I don't know if he'd respond anymore). Nicely Done. : ) --[[User:Alcoholic Legend|Alcoholic Legend]] 08:33, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

You have won my respect with your fan art. May I fellate you? --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 23:53, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

==The Comic==

I actually really enjoyed it. It's one of the few <s>troll</s> TRUE and HONEST comics I've really liked aside from Asperchu. You sir are good people. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 07:48, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

===This concerns all of us, man===
I just think you should know that Cogs is enacting a new policy regarding fan works that can be read [[CWCki:Policy|here]]. Also, there's some fairly ugly (and barely literate) backlash going on against the torture stories happening at the discussion page on ''Afternoon'', and some support would be greatly appreciated. If you'd like to stay out of it, though, I completely understand. --[[User:Manwithoutabody|manwithoutabody]] 19:43, 12 July 2010 (CEST)

== /cwc/ ==

I can save some of those pictures if you'd like me to.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 01:23, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:Save to your computer? Go right ahead. But if you're talking about uploading them here, there's a reason why I didn't do it myself. I'm waiting for all this drama surrounding the fan section to die off. So far it's only a few fanfics were deleted, but I have no idea what's still to come. No sense continuing to upload images only for them to be taken down in the next week or so. Besides, there's talk of starting a whole new wiki for fanworks, it'd make more sense to put 'em there. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 02:18, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, I meant to my computer. Most of the pictures are way over 150 kb, so I wouldn't upload them here anyway.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 15:34, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:::The earlier ones I posed on /cwc/ weren't resized and were saved as png files, so yeah they're all around 1.5MB. The later ones, starting with page 22, and all the ones I already uploaded, were shrunk down and saved as JPGs. Also, I'm going to be going through every page to make minor revisions when I'm done. Polish some of the coloring, edit the dialog, that kind of thing. I'm also going to change Heather's dialog so it's entirely in Spanish (there's a reason for this everyone will find out soon). --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 21:13, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== Flipnote, Vote padding, Drugs and your local government... ==
I noticed you edited the Flipnote Hatena concerning the labyrinth flipnote and Chris's star spam. I really doubt that this changes anything, but I do recall that at one point it was around 2k or something and then after a week or so I checked back in and it was at 9001 for a while. I think that although Chris has taken liberty to star his own shit but I also think that at some point a fuckin' retard decided to meme it up and spam some stars chris' way. How much is a unknown. Could've been less than a hundred or over several thousand. I only mention this because I think that not all are the result of Chris (my theory is Chris did 60-80%). Kind of hard guessing with numbers and it wasn't really relevant, but I think that you might interested in it slightly.

Also, I must say that you are doing a awesome job at the comics you are uploading to /cwc/. I always look forward to your uploads. I have been wondering about the Fear and Loathing in CWCville comic that (i think) you FedEX'd to Chris; did he receive it? is it possible for you to know that it was received or sent back? I am interested in knowing its status. Oh also but I don't know if you remember me and my 1 or 2 requests in your threads on /cwc/, but I am ttly not a perv or creeper. I made the requests under the assumption that they weren't creepy or anything but I see that it is pretty ambiguous. I should've had more tact in crafting my requests, or better yet, not make them at all.

Thanks for reading through all my bullshit here and keep up the great work you are doing. [[User:Wozblod|Wozblod]] 08:26, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

== ModNation Stats Number Crunching ==

I recall that you are going to do some processing of Chris's wins and losses once he has raced a thousand times. Well, he has now reached that milestone. What do you have in store for us? --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 22:53, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
:I have all the numbers saved, as well as his placement in all the leaderboards. I'll see what I can do with them tomorrow (er, later today?) --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 23:26, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
::Yeah, about this. It's time we get updated. Even while everyone's attention is focused on Bob and Barb, I'm still curious about those numbers. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 07:14, 17 August 2010 (PDT)
:::I'll be honest, I don't really know what I'm doing. I took screen caps of every page of the leaderboards Chris is on, but without knowing what the mean, median, and mode are this data isn't of much use. From my initial findings, it seems Chris is actually a mediocre racer. His stats are well below the "good" players, but he's not the worst on almost every page of the leaderboards he's on. 1,000 races and 200 wins: a 20% win stat. I don't play online racers, so I have no idea how good that is. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 07:34, 17 August 2010 (PDT)
::::That... probably isn't good (sorry for butting in). If you can figure out how he got the losses, you'd have a better picture of how well he does. If I remember correctly, I saw something that said he probably ragequits when he's going to lose, so a lot of those races are probably drops on his end. There's probably no real way to tell how good he is because whenever he loses, he's willing to ragequit.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 09:58, 17 August 2010 (PDT)
:::::His disconnects and "did not finish" stats are actually pretty low. 29 and 43, respectfully. Out of 800 losses, he'd either have to be losing ''really'' bad, or was just running away from the other racers if they were saying mean things (assuming ModNation has live player chat, and Chris didn't opt to turn it off). --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 10:06, 17 August 2010 (PDT)

Just so you know, he recolored his casket to make the [[Wii Remote of Fail]]. I can't see the tags, though. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 19:09, 12 September 2010 (PDT)
:[http://community.modnation.com/en-us/players/Sonichu/creations/2176813 *cough*] --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 16:11, 13 September 2010 (PDT)
::Yes, yes, I know. I've been lazy in doing that because it just seems redundant. You'll note I haven't put up both versions of the Foxxy Five van. --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 16:13, 13 September 2010 (PDT)

== The CWCki forum... ==

Any clue what Dr.Shoggoth did to it that the link's broken? The idea was an awesome one, but seeing as it disappeared without a word, it seems weird. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 19:42, 17 August 2010 (PDT)
:Looks like it might have got DDoS'd --[[User:Xanabit|Xanabit]] 19:50, 17 August 2010 (PDT)
::He took it down after a dispute on IRC with Canine. I'm not sure if it will be back up or not. [[User:BigDan|BigDan]] 21:10, 17 August 2010 (PDT)

== IlPalazzo and Y2K!Chris have disappeared ==

Could you kindly re-upload? Also, Chris has made another blank-faced racer, apparently based on Sony's latest peripheral. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 15:48, 26 September 2010 (PDT)

== ObamaCable ==
'''...[I]f you're having problems with lackluster socialist television, you can always look into cable and satellite providers. You know, revel in the benefits of the free market. A lot of companies even include an introductory premium package for the first three months or so at no extra charge. You can get all the softcore porn you want on Cinemax.'''
:I'm saving up for a new dish. I found I can watch some shows online, but I've missed a whole season of ''The Simpsons'' and ''Family Guy'' in the meantime. Also, I can't find last Monday's ep of ''Two and a Half Men'', or full eps of ''Shit My Dad Says'', at Hulu. TV has changed a lot since I was a kid, I'm just saying. You can't even find classic Warner Bros. and MGM cartoons on cable anymore--you have to go to YouTube, or spring for DVDs. Is a copy of "The Great Piggy Bank Robbery" worth that much bread just for an extras menu featuring unused storyboards and John K's 20-min sermon on the history of forties-era rubberhose? [[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 18:35, 25 February 2011 (PST)

User talk:Kei

2011-02-25T17:07:54Z

The Iconoclast:

'''>>Lets see: Widespread <s>plagiarism</s> artistic borrowing, a lack of artistic unity, a lack of professional quality in works that are presented as such (hello vanity publishing/sonichu copyright), self promotion in unrelated places, and a superpowered SI surrounded by <s>boyfriend free girls</s> women to make up for an underwhelming real life... Yeah, it's like I'm reading Sonichu© light. We've even got the same regurgitation of tv lines.'''

::As opposed to, say, ''Family Guy''? Seth MacFarlane built his Fuzzy Door empire on such tropes. I'm just trying to sell enough books to fund my dream of going back to school. I want a life of buffet-style dining three times a day, faster Internet, a decent cable package instead of a crappy government ObamaCable box that only lets me have two channels, and beautiful random girls who call the men's dorms nightly for sex. Hey, that's how college works. I don't make these rules, I just try to live within them and not screw up too badly in the meantime. --[[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 11:03, 15 January 2011 (PST)

==Re: "Fuzzy Door empire", Books for college, the “ObamaCable Box”& dorm-brothels==
'''Getting money for writing and vanity publishing with the hope that it will net you money isn't the same thing and I don’t think I’ve ever heard of someone making a consequential amount through the second way'''. 
Self-publishing is the new big thing in media. Although web-publishing may never replace the dead-tree format, many entrepreneurs have made a go of it.
Some links for you:

[http://www.writersdigest.com/selfpublished Annual WD S-P Awards] 
[http://www.amazon.com/Window-ebook/dp/B001EJNMHE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&m=AG56TWVU5XWC2&s=digital-text&qid=1295423240&sr=1-1 Amazon Kindle] 

I funded my first abortive attempt at schooling with a grant and it took years to pay off. To say nothing of two failed small businesses, my idiot brother's growing drug habit, and my largely stagnating writing career leaving me with massive debt. I hate asking for [[monthly tugboat|handouts]] and I won't be in debt to the government. The problem isn't the money; I'm trying to clear my good name and get the flag lifted on my records at my old alma mater. I was threatened with arrest jsut for asking to visit and use a CD burner on campus for my latest book project. These are really sick people who need to be removed from power.

'''...I really hope you don’t think college is supposed to be like that.''' 
"Suppose" and "is" are two very different animals, kiddo. --[[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 23:55, 18 January 2011 (PST)

== Hey hey hey ==

'''Just thought you might want to know you're getting [http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Iconoclast#Iconoclast_the_Liberal pretty famous] out there. Looks like you're one step closer to geting the exposure you wanted.-[[User:Kei|Kei]] 18:08, 23 February 2011 (PST)'''
* It'd be funny if their research wasn't so criminally sloppy and the whole article completely biased. What even qualifies me as a liberal? I hate change and work daily to defund and dial it back. Also, the Kim Possible jokes are getting old fast. For the record, it's the government's fault I can only watch children's shows on the weekend, with all the boneheaded E/I regulation. When I was a kid, I was a huge fan of womens' wrestling.

:'''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHblvQ4nz_s ''G.L.O.W.'': Col. Ninotchka vs. Little Feather and Ebony]'''

:What, not educational enough? Tell them that a half-naked Russian woman beating up a half-naked native American woman teaches multiculturalism, feminist studies, and history. The left is dumb enough to buy that, right? [[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]]

User talk:The Iconoclast

2011-02-25T17:04:50Z

The Iconoclast: /* Hey hey hey */

Talk:Fangs

2011-02-25T16:43:51Z

The Iconoclast: /* Fangs for the memories */

==To do==
*Add close up pics of his fangs
*First reference to his fangs in his video.

Does this still need to be a stub? I think the only meaningful thing we could add at this point is an observation that his "fangs" aren't even particularly sharp. Hell, they're kind of on the blunt side. [[User:Ensign disposable|Ensign disposable]] 19:49, 9 July 2009 (CEST)

== Added a Video Where He Shows Them ==

Perhaps, if anyone has the time, we can describe which videos he displays his "fangs" in. I've done so for the Sign Destruction Video. Any references he or someone else has made in regard to his teeth would be good here too. --[[User:KataclysmKat|KataclysmKat]]

==Fangs for the memories==
Aren't [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CuteLittleFangs little pointy teeth] usually reserved for ''female'' characters (e.g. cat-girls) in anime? This may dovetail with Chris' latent [[homos|gender confusion]], noted on many an occassion. --[[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 01:06, 22 February 2011 (PST)
*He thinks he has big pointy teeth. Anime isn't even part of it. It's like his eye-color; he thinks it's something that makes him unique so he overemphasizes it in the comics. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 07:58, 22 February 2011 (PST)
** Still an interesting juxtaposition, whether he sees it or not.... [[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 08:43, 25 February 2011 (PST)

Talk:Fangs

2011-02-22T09:06:10Z

The Iconoclast:

Talk:Christian Weston Chandler

2011-01-29T03:37:54Z

The Iconoclast: /* Contact information? */

...Okay, is it just me, or does Chrissy look drastically different when he's wearing his glasses compared to when he's not? Like, I almost can't believe it's the same person. I mean, I can, since no one else could possibly be that much of a fucktard, but he just looks really different. Or am I imagining it? [[User:Ayvuir|Ayvuir]]
*Hey, it works for Superman. [[User:Ensign disposable|Ensign disposable]] 14:09, 7 September 2009 (CEST)

==To do==
*pics of Chris, especially young Chris and the funny ones
*life history
*brief outline of his views
*his future outlook
I'll do what I can to help this page along. I'm a wiki noob, learning as I go here. So, it won't look the best... [[User:MajorIronwood|MajorIronwood]]

We should add a sentence or two on the fact that he thinks he can call himself Christopher, just because it share the same abbreviation as Christian.~[[User:gourmetpickle|gourmetpickle]]
:Christopher WAS his name, until he changed to Christian when he was 12.--[[User:UncleBastard|UncleBastard]] 20:43, 10 March 2009 (CET)
:Boy, do I feel stupid. But then again, if he changed his name, he should have to pick or the other.~[[User:gourmetpickle|gourmetpickle]]
::That reminds me, we should add a few sentences about why he changed his name - I forget where but he had some story (maybe it was in the DVD slideshow) where he says how some teacher kept calling him "Christian" and the name "had a ring to it" so he changed it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:52, 17 March 2009 (CET)
:::In addition, from [[CWC's_Pokésite_2| El PokéSite 2]], Christian considers his Spanish name to be Ricardo - Likely named after the Ricky Ricardo character from ''I Love Lucy''. Realistic equivalents might be found in ''Cris'', ''Cristián'', or ''Cristóbal'', but clearly these were not featured in the television shows he had watched prior to his High School Spanish classes. [[User:Mall Conductor Bear|Mall Conductor Bear]] 09:25, 12 May 2009 (CEST)
::::To be fair, one's "Spanish name" need not be the same as their real name. For example, in 7th grade my Spanish name was Jose, though my name isn't Joseph, and in 10th grade I was Che, even though I'm not Argentinian. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:02, 1 June 2009 (CEST)
:::More Name Crap: "-Chan" suffix is generally used for a little girl in Japanese. Chris is ''possibly'' too dense to realize this, and enjoys the similar pronunciation to 'Christian'. In doing so, there was no need to create a word jumble of existing letters, as that convention was given to his ''more open'' [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc|alter-ago]]. [[User:LBearington|LBearington]] 05:25, 1 June 2009 (CEST)

==Racism and Noviophobia==
Evidence of it goes back further than was previously thought. Read the notice to guys on [[Media:511-JumboLoveQuestSign.JPG|this sign]] from when he was 21. "(and to all MEN with girlfriends, except marrieds and blacks, go jump off a cliff)". Where the white women at? --[[User:Tumbleweed|Tumbleweed]] 04:10, 26 March 2009 (CET)
*I don't think that's racism though, because he's saying EXCEPT blacks. I think maybe he's paranoid about telling black people to jump off a cliff, because otherwise that's a hate crime. Sorta like when he made that post on his MySpace "I Respect the African American People." --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:12, 26 March 2009 (CET)
*Possibly, but since he's already stated that he simply doesn't like black people, I don't think it's likely. And besides, I don't think it would make much sense to make a special exception to black people unless you were hyper PC or just afraid of black people. (not to mention that he explicitly asks for only white women in later requests / demands / whines) --[[User:Tumbleweed|Tumbleweed]] 09:48, 26 March 2009 (CET)
*Yeah, it's racism. He's saying "Blacks don't need to jump off a cliff, because I'm using my outdated and quriky view that blacks stick with blacks relationship wise, and the same is true for whites. So, I don't worry about blacks impeding on my 'love quest.'" However, I don't think Chris would be able to articulate that well. --[[User:Tregnier2795|Tregnier2795]]
*Just a thought, should there be a separate article that would count how many times he's been racist other than his views of [[niggo]]s? --[[User:AntonImausMk2|AntonImausMk2]] 04:29, 3 November 2009 (CET)

== Mr. Darcy is much better than Chris, y'hear. ==

I had it noted, along with a picture of Colin Firth as Mr. Darcy to compare the two, that Mr. Darcy and Chris are in no way similar. This came about from the cliche "Well, he's no Mr. Darcy..."

I think it's a good visual aid. --[[User:Tregnier2795|Tregnier2795]]

==Let me tell you about this page==
It's great. It's fantastic. I read it for the first time in a while and I think it's the perfect, concise intro to Chris. The ED article on Chris sucks because it's so all over the place. True, we have the luxury of being a devoted wiki that instead of having to go into depth about Sonichu, we can just link to the article. The ED article is shit because it goes over the place, it's a bit out of date, and it picks poor samples of Chris's videos like just highlighting the "gaybian" vid. This is a fantastic article and this is why people come to us. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 10:03, 1 December 2009 (CET)

== Since there's no actual "Chris and..." page ==

I hope it's okay to discuss it here. I was wondering if a "Chris and Intelligence" page can be of any use. Some things to cover are his 1) logic, 2) academics and 3) philosophy (to cover his stupid quotes and advice). --[[User:AntonImausMk2|AntonImausMk2]] 09:56, 7 December 2009 (CET)
*That's sorta what [[honor roll]] is at the moment, though it really should be expanded to that as opposed to the focus on art (which really isn't what honor roll is about). Why I suggest honor roll because Chris will say something like "I'm smart, I was on honor roll." "I know math, I was on honor roll for the love of God!," etc. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 10:07, 7 December 2009 (CET)

We need a "Chris and Aspergers Syndrome" page. --[[User:CJB8895|Cody]]
==CWC split?==
"CWC" should redirect here, but I'm thinking maybe we should make a page devoted to Chris's initials. He uses them a lot, they're a recurring motif in his work, and we can even keep track of when he uses them as a pun (like "A CWC Audition"). Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 10:09, 7 December 2009 (CET)

==Page Needed==
Chris and Reliability - [[User:CJB8895|Cody]]

== cleaned-up, needs to be expanded/updated ==

--[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 22:29, 29 December 2009 (CET)

== Contact information? ==

Okay. I realise I will be stepping into what can only be described as but a cat's whisker from the maw of hell- but I would like to talk to Christian Weston Chandler. I have a great deal of things to discuss with him and, rest assured, there will be luls. What is the best way to get in touch with him these days? I tried Facebook, but he doesn't seem to be checking it very often (I'm guessing he has a lot of trolls talk to him). I've also taken to staking out his AIM, but I'm guessing he doesn't use that either due to people spamming him with JULAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:26, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
:Are you a licensed therapist or religious official? Because I think a team of a shrink, a priest, and a journalist would be needed at this point. [[Vivian Gee]] tried to get through to him, Lord love her, but she's not a doctor--didn't even finish high school, I do believe. Look...I've had my share of problems growing up, and I know no one can compliment you and make you feel like a turd all at the same time like a [[Mary Lee Walsh|school admin]]. I've got a kid brother who is an unrepentant drug addict and thief, who probably could have been reached if we'd gotten to him sooner. He's now a burned-out piece of crap who is on his third (maybe fourth, I've lost count) jail term. He's about Chris-Chan's age. I say someone better do something or else Chris'll be in jail or an institution before he's thirty, and then he'll be the taxpayer's problem. What will they do when his folks croak off? He's got a couple of half-siblings, but they've got their own lives to lead; they don't need a man-child with a lukewarm I.Q. underfoot. Could we live with ourselves if he flips out and kills a bunch of people in a mall or a campus somewhere, and maybe we could have done something if we'd been proactive five or three, or even just a year ago, to prevent it? [[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 19:37, 28 January 2011 (PST)

I don't own a PS3 so somehow contacting him via the Playstation Network is also out. I live in Australia, so this makes things difficult. Thoughts? Suggestions? [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 14:20, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
:It's pointless to try and talk to Chris, as he will just ignore you. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 14:42, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
::Alec knows his personal phone number. I think that if you ask him nicely he might tell you. He certainly dosn't owe Chris anything. His Asperpedia account is ALBASPERCHU and his email is albasperchu(at)live.com --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:40, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
*1) please sign your comments (it's four tildas [~] in a row). 2) Chris's contact info should be in [[14 Branchland Court]], 3) if it isn't, it should be there. I think Cogs didn't want it with the logic is that if you have to ask for Chris's phone number and can't find it yourself when he's mentioned it frequently, you really shouldn't be trolling Chris. However, people asking for it all the time is annoying and it defeats the purpose of CWCki being an open source of information.
** Actually, I tried calling that number but either I fucked up international dialing (entirely possible) or it was disconnected (which is what I thought it said). [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:26, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
:That aside, I can guarantee that Chris will not listen to your call.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:26, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
::I know he'll ignore me, but at least it'll be funny. I'm not attempting to, directly, help him. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:26, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
:CWCki is not a place to discuss how to troll or help Chris, if you want to contact Chris, do it, it won't have any effect on him whatsoever.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 03:21, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
* I'd actually love to know if there's some online contact information at all. Inquiring minds need to know, since he evidently doesn't go on IRC anymore. anyone know where he can regularly be found? [[User:Boop|Boop]] 05:29, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
**I've yet to be able to find anything besides an AOL address. Does he still use that account? [[User:PrimeMinisterStephanHarper|PrimeMinisterStephanHarper]] 17:26, 27 September 2010 (PDT)

== Misapplication of social rules ==

Maybe this comment should go under the Autism page or the Honesty page but it seems like Chris's view of "Honesty" is likely influenced by an unspoken rule amongst nerdier internet communities where being extremely, unnecessarily open in private, especially with things verifiable by a third party, is seen as a way to build trust, due to the fact it is difficult if not impossible to establish it otherwise. My point being, he may have picked this sort of 'honesty' up from a geeky community somewhere. [[User:Insidious611|Insidious611]] 05:06, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I will note said openness doesn't USUALLY extend to ones bowel issues or other information nobody in their right mind would want to know. But it may extend to relationships and especially trouble therein. [[User:Insidious611|Insidious611]] 05:07, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

== You forgot to mention... ==

''Christian Weston Chandler (born Christopher Weston Chandler on 24 February 1982) is a perverse, narcissistic, homophobic, sexist, racist, overweight, delusional "high-functioning autistic" virgin etc. etc.''

What about "uncultured" (as shown by his not knowing the story of ''To Kill a Mockingbird'''' and thinking Molvania is a real place) and "tone deaf" (his so called "album", need I say more?)[[User:Knucklechu|Knucklechu]] 10:20, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
:If the purpose of this article was to make a list of all the negative adjectives that could be applied to Chris, it would be 20 pages long.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 11:53, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
**Oh, er... I just got done adding a bunch of those. This is going to be the first sentence of the first page that a lot of people are going to look at. If there's this really stupid, unwieldy list of all the totally horrible, totally accurate descriptors, they'll be like, "No way, no one can be that bad." But they'll... y'know... —[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] 03:40, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

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2011-01-20T18:15:30Z

The Iconoclast: Created page with "So...the teeth literally grant one wisdom, or something? I mean, if they're magic teeth...Maybe they're like the teeth in that old myth that turned into an army when sown, or som..."

So...the teeth literally grant one wisdom, or something? I mean, if they're magic teeth...Maybe they're like the teeth in that old myth that turned into an army when sown, or something.... --[[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 10:15, 20 January 2011 (PST)

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==Megapicklezord==
I knocked out the "easy part" of the chronology for you. The rest will be tedious and unrewarding citations. [[User:Megapicklezord|Megapicklezord]] 08:10, 16 February 2009 (CET)

==Unclebastard==
[[Excel-Saga]] already exists dude!!!--[[User:UncleBastard|UncleBastard]] 07:25, 19 February 2009 (CET)
:No problemmo, Thanks to Chris' fucktardary of spelling mistakes and over use of of hyphen symbols ("-") in words, it makes this wiki ten times harder to check if one already exists :D--[[User:UncleBastard|UncleBastard]] 07:32, 19 February 2009 (CET)

==Champthom==
Love that edit for the Krapple Komputer Kompany. Anti-spam FTW. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 14:36, 19 February 2009 (CET)

As the creator of the Krapple article, I approve! --[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]] 09:26, 20 February 2009 (CET)

==William Maize==
My bad yo, I should have probably stopped for a moment and said "wait, this is probably already up somewhere". But, y'know, I didn't. [[User:William Maize|William Maize]] 00:27, 23 February 2009 (CET)

==Shiny==
Should [[Shiny Marshtomp]] be redirected to Audiobooks anyway? [[User:Shiny Marshtomp|Shiny]] 21:55, 18 March 2009 (CET)
:*Fien [[User:Shiny Marshtomp|Shiny]] 21:59, 18 March 2009 (CET)
:*lol wut [[User:Shiny Marshtomp|Shiny]] 22:18, 18 March 2009 (CET)
:*photoshop that one girl from the breakfast club nude. there ya go [[User:Shiny Marshtomp|Shiny]] 22:37, 18 March 2009 (CET)
:*Massive injoke between me and Clyde [[User:Shiny Marshtomp|Shiny]] 21:44, 22 March 2009 (CET)

==Robotnik==
Are there any details about Chris that are particularly sketchy that one of his friends could clear up for us?--[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 15:50, 20 March 2009 (CET)

== CriticalMindz ==

Indeed. The best evidence that he's just bluffing is probably his mentioning that he hopes we get assraped. ;) --[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]] 18:59, 14 April 2009 (CEST)
:*Oh yes. Thus far we just have one somewhat angry mother. Snorlax. --[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]] 19:04, 14 April 2009 (CEST)
::*heh as if Svenka is even relevant anymore --[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]] 19:31, 14 April 2009 (CEST)

== Re: Jo ==

No I didn't. Although I mentioned it on the forums, I forgot to note it in the actual article. I'll put a note crediting falsion with the find. I OKed it Cog before putting the page up --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 14:37, 3 May 2009 (CEST)

==Order of the Pickle==
Since you've done a lot of stuff with the Chronology and promoting the CWCki and being a TRUE and LOYAL CWCki editor, you deserve the Order of the Pickle. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:10, 20 May 2009 (CEST)
: Awesome chron, great job. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 00:18, 21 May 2009 (CEST)

== Edit links ==

The purpose of [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcki/index.php?title=2000&diff=15698&oldid=15591 this edit] was to fix the [edit] links from bunching up near the bottom. Did it mess up the page for you? [[User:Axe|Axe]] 08:17, 9 June 2009 (CEST)
: I just checked in IE; a ton of white space is probably what you saw. There are ways around it, but the code would become too unwieldy so I've reverted myself. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 09:45, 9 June 2009 (CEST)

== pics ==

So where did the pics of him in a bra and panties come from? What's the story here? I've seen your name here a lot so I figured you might know, or at least know someone who knows. [[User:Semicolon|Semicolon]] 05:29, 18 June 2009 (CEST)
*He sent those images to a sweetheart, as he did with basically all embarrassing footage of him. Lurk more. --[[User:LizardPie|LizardPie]] 06:53, 18 June 2009 (CEST)
**I believe [[Blanca]] was like "TAKE PICTURES IN YOUR MOM'S UNDERWEAR OR ELSE I'LL SEE A MALE PROSTITUTE" and Chris is like "NO, NO, DON'T SEE A PROSTITUTE, lemme get you the pics." I swore to God almighty that this was done because Chris mentioned how he liked to try on his mother's underwear but someone claims that they were totally forced, hence why Chris doesn't have a shit eating grin in that picture (like in the semen drinking vid). The fact Chris plays it off as it being "just clothes" is just to save face. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 10:41, 18 June 2009 (CEST)
***Good gravy. And I thought ''I'' was gullible. [[User:Semicolon|Semicolon]] 18:38, 18 June 2009 (CEST)
:::* Yeah, Champ knows his shit. Welcome to CWCki, btw! :3 [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 22:55, 19 June 2009 (CEST)

==Congratulations==
Chris gives you a shotuout in the [[Rollin' and Trollin'|new video]]. Nice job! --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:50, 17 July 2009 (CEST)

==Resize your images==
I know you've been gone for a while but in case you didn't notice, [[User:Fuckingstupid]] was kind enough to resize every single image to be under 150 kb in size (to save space and wiki standards). You recently uploaded a picture of Mimms that was 238 kb. If you would be so kind, please resize it to be under 150 kb. Here's a [[Help:Resizing_images|guide]] on how to do it.

Thank you for your time and consideration. Do it again and I will be disappoint, son. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:34, 8 August 2009 (CEST)
==NOOOOOOO!!!==
Why did you delete all my posts? Was it to much fail for you, All I'm doing is having fun :3 -Majora

==Son, I am disappoint==
Goatse? Really? I know it's Chris related but really? Also, having Scampers "censor" it only made it more disturbing. I'm a bit disappointed in you, Rachmaninov. I want you to sit in the corner and think about what you've done. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:24, 10 November 2009 (CET)
*For the record, I have seen goatse before and it was only Scamper's "censorship" that made it more disturbing than the original. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:36, 10 November 2009 (CET)
*Tsk tsk Rach, this is not ED you know :3 -- [[User:Da Nuke|Da_Nuke the Nucular Raeg Bomb]] 08:44, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

==CWChronology Gallery(s?)==
Hey man,
No offense taken, move them however you want. I put that gallery in there as a quick fix so that I could get those images off the "unused images" list, and I couldn't find a more appropriate place at the time. As long as they find a home, it's all good! [[User:Dude|Dude]] 03:48, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

==[[Fan:Sonichu: The Animated Series]]==
This page needs to be unlocked now that season two is released, and the link is woefully out of date. Edits need to be made, dammit! [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:31, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

== tee hee ==

I wuv you too, honey. [[User:Hamsterjelly|Hamsterjelly]] 21:15, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

==Chris and Education==

* Actually, I just realized that the table is wrong, with or without my edits. Chris graduated in 2006 (as evidenced by the dates on his "degree's"), therefore their needs to be 6 columns for his PVCC years (perhaps a denotation for the year he was banned?) [[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 23:10, 18 May 2010 (EST)

** Alright dude, seriously chill the fuck out. Your getting angry over petty stuff... fine, leave the tables out, but it should be reflected that Chris graduated in 2006, 6 years since he started taking courses at PVCC, just for accuracy. I'm not pushing this matter further because you seem pretty butthurt over it so I'm not editing that section any further... I only edited the table twice, the first time by error, and the 2nd time to reflect the year he was banned. BTW, your table is still wrong, because Chris's diplomas are from 2006, so he had to have been their 5 years, not 4 (even with the ban) [[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 14:54, 21 May 2010 (EST)

== Iron Cross ==

Ages ago you awarded me one. That was super awesome of you!

Anyways, they've been rolling out new userbox templates, so I changed the Iron Cross award to match them. I hope you don't hate me forever for doing this.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 03:44, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

==RE: Whatever you Titled it==

"don't revert it again without consulting me first, ok?" Likewise, bro. Don't forget you did the exact same thing, and it was before I did. As for that condescending thing, I don't do that intentionally. I prefer getting my point across quickly above pleasantries. It isn't a personal issue. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 08:02, 15 October 2010 (PDT)

== Thanks for your offer ==
I will take it under consideration. I suppose it is my tough but fair stance with [[troll]]s that impressed you, eh? ''Gracias'' and good day. --[[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 00:02, 19 January 2011 (PST)

>>''' I also like how you're standing up against FreeCell's bullshit. We need some freedom in here.''' 
I do what I can, but if it's so bad here, friend, just cut your losses. Ride on to greener pastures. [http://www.gamespot.com/users/Fekul_the_Baby/blog Drop by my place one of these old days; we'll gab]. --[[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 01:44, 20 January 2011 (PST)

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The Iconoclast:

{{welcome|Freecell}}

New name. Didn't like [[User:thelieisacake|the old one.]] [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 18:55, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Added a welcome template because I've never gotten one and I'm jealous.

== Hey... ==

I hope this is how to use the message system? haha, if not, feel free to delete it. Anyway, sorry about that dude, I've never actually signed up for a wiki account before, ever. I was just glancing down and saw some transcript text that was wrong, and thought I would correct it. So anyway, my bad, and I'll be sure to take advantage of that preview button next time.

== Alright so... ==

I keep hearing about how Chris cut his Medallion up in little pieces and shoved it up his ass... wtf, he really didn't do this did he? Does video or picture proof exist? I've seen him TALK about it with that Max guy, but that was all audio wasn't it? He could have easily just faked the whole thing. If he REALLY did do it, he's so god damn stupid.

== Long time no see, old friend. ==

Hey, just wanted to say hello again since it's been a while, I remember you were the one who was 'keeping an eye on me' when I first came here, thought it would be nice to give you a smile and a warm hello.

But, to business, I also wanted to let you know that you were right about George, as posted in Eniggy's usertalk. He appears to be a 16 year old who lives near Chris, and until further notice, an actual fan with some of Chris's tendancies. As well as a stare that almost rivals Chris in creepiness. Not sure what to do with him from here, but at the very least, I wanted to let you know about it.

Good tidings to you, and hope to see you again soon.

[[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 14:35, 12 August 2010 (PDT)

::Hey there, wanted to let you know that I sent you an email to your 'undercover newfag account'. It's one that Eniggy forwarded to me, wanted your expert opinion on it before I or anyone else tried making an article of it. Or editing any other articles with it.

You don't have to read it if you don't want to, but either way, thought it would be nice to ask.

Thank you for reading my silliness, and see you soon. [[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 20:08, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

== THE CWCKI FORUM ==

http://cwckiforum.proboards.com
IT'S LIKE PVCC FOR CWCKI PEOPLE!
[[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]] 13:43, 17 August 2010 (PDT)

== Not A Forum ==

Don't get cocky, especially not with Cogs. Asking about which account he uploaded a video on is actually related to the article's content - and in this case, knowing trolls leaked the video is important in order to use the right templates etc. The idea of "Not A Forum" is to reduce the number of blog-length posts by people speculating about Chris and other crap. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 15:22, 4 September 2010 (PDT)
:Oh and leave talk page message removal to the Jerkops - otherwise it's vandalism. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 15:24, 4 September 2010 (PDT)
::lol i trol u [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 16:11, 4 September 2010 (PDT)
get the fuck out --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 16:22, 4 September 2010 (PDT)

== Userboxes ==

They're not perfect as they are user-contributed things which don't actually matter. Also if people have the userbox category on their userpage, it usually means they subst'd the userbox templates - which we actively discourage and fix. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 06:14, 14 September 2010 (PDT)

== Holding a pen ==

I didn't realize the redundancy with "drawing". But then again, it DOES affect his handwriting... and it is one of the main reasons why he sucks at drawing. But if you see no other reason, go ahead and remove it. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 17:50, 14 October 2010 (PDT)

== Excuse me, what are you doing? ==

"Derp. Just because he can't identify a fake (which he can't do EVER, even with Sony/Nintendo, his BFF companies) doesn't mean he is/isn't a fan. It has nothing to do with the section." You don't get the point here bro. It isn't about him not recognising the letter, it's about him not knowing who Paul McCartney is. The fact that he answered the letter the way he did is a very good indication that Chris didn't know who Paul McCartney was at that moment, and therefore wasn't a Beatles fan. Therefore it is very relevant to the article. I just edited the line to make this more clear, I guess it wasn't, but don't revert it again without consulting me first, ok? Also, don't talk condescending to me. You don't want to turn this into a personal thing. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 05:49, 15 October 2010 (PDT)
* Ok, good work bro. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 10:39, 16 October 2010 (PDT)

== Failure ==

Pretty sure the list of things Chris fails at should be comprised of things we have clear evidence of him failing at - rather than requiring more than one way to prove he fails at it consistently. Pull-ups is probably one of most suitable additions to that list in a long time. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 09:30, 6 November 2010 (PDT)

== Question ==

Freecell, would you like to be my mentor here? I have taken a liking to you, and since I am rather new to this wikia stuff it would seem that you can help me out the most. Any advice that you can give to me before I make another error would be great. :D Thanks, [[User:The Brave|The Brave]] 14:52, 30 November 2010 (PST)

== *ahem* ==

What you seemed to not recognise is those lines were impersonating ''Jackie''. ie; ''She'' would.

== Re: Deleted Post ==

No need to apologize. It wasn't showing up and the offending article was deleted, so nothing of value was lost.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 19:35, 23 December 2010 (PST)

== Regarding SecretWeapon ==
I included the "rage quote" in order to put emphasis on what he was saying, since his laugh is very loud. It might be better that it isn't in there, though; it admittedly screwed up the formatting. Just wanted to clear that up.--[[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 3:28, 3 January 2011 (Central Time)

==Hey==

Sorry for the shitty piping, I'll make sure to make them more relevant/appropriate.[[User:Masterofpirates|Masterofpirates]] 13:07, 5 January 2011 (PST)

==Hey part Deux==
Who the fuck are you? [[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]]

==stop vandalizing my user talk page==

you faggot [[Fetuseater23]], who can't sign posts and is banned.

== Talk page ==
It's my talk page, and I will do with it as I see fit. It's a badly-spelled ad hominem troll attack, and I want it gone. Do as you will. --[[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 00:41, 19 January 2011 (PST)

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'''Do you ''not'' want kids to eat food that actually has some sort of nutritional value? Are you '''IN FAVOR OF CHILDHOOD OBESITY'''? 
Absolutely not. I simply don't believe the government should tell us what to put in our mouths. (That is not a sexual joke.) It's the same reason I am against the E/I legislation spearheaded by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Television_Act Peggy Charren], which has been perverted by unscrupulous programmers and reduced children's TV to bland mushy mind-pap. I don't want Michelle Obama telling me what snacks I may consume while watching the few shows I am still allowed to enjoy on her husband's little two-horse cable empire. Don't get me wrong--I am a great believer in good eating. My mother is a recovering heart-patient, and I have placed us on a sensible, healthy meal plan--low sodium, fresh vegetables, lean meat. You will find that lower-income homes tend to consume the poorest diets, owing to the cheapness and ready availability of junk. These laws, while well-meaning, may also break already overtaxed school budgets and lead to higher tuition or cutting of underfunded academic programs (though, oddly, not the money wasted on sumptuous perks packages or earmarks for legal fees stemming from University men's indiscretions with local [[boyfriend-free girl]]s).

'''[C]hildren's programming was always stupid and full of fluff. Why are you watching kiddie shows at your age, anyway?''' 
Do your research. Cartoons weren't always made for children. In fact, many of the early theatricals were made by adults, for adults--particularly thirties-era Fleischer, forties-era Warner Bros., and even Disney. They contained psychedelic imagery, violence, alcohol/tobacco use, wildly politically-incorrect plots and artwork, even nudity. During WWII they were a valuable tool in training our soldiers. It wasn't until about the early to mid-seventies that a prosocial trend began growing in the business. Cartoons left the movie houses and were broadcast on TV, often terribly edited. The eighties gave us some standouts, which though often accused of being shameless 22-minute toy commercials, featured risque animation and some surprisingly frank and adult plots. ''BraveStarr'''s "The Price" especially stands out as a haunting take on the consequences of drug abuse. Of course, there were some clunkers like [[Ghostbusters]] and a bunch of forgettable ones, but by and large it was a new Silver Age.

In 1990 Peggy Charren demanded three hours weekly of educational programming be broadcast to meet the needs of children, which basically ruined Saturday morning. Once a respectable event to look forward to each season, the fall schedules degenerated into mediocrity at the hands of greedy, unscrupulous broadcasters who put forth as little effort to fill and maintain these slots as humanly possible--ironically, the selfsame people the parental watchdog groups decried 15 years before. --[[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 03:24, 18 January 2011 (PST)

== Addendum ==
Arthur's an aarvark, right? The only cartoon aardvark I've ever watched was the classic blue one from DePatie-Freleng. I don't watch PBS. It isn't one of the channels ObamaCable permits. I am only allowed The CW and Retro regularly, and the "sometime" channels like ABC, qubo, a Fox affilate, a news feed, and CBS (no volume, just picture) that are usually scrambled or bluescreened most of the day. I'm saving for a satellite dish, although I usually just watch shows I like on YouTube and Hulu...particularly classics and eighties 'toons. Teen dramas (most are soft-core porn cleaned up for primetime and showing rich brats being--well--rich brats) and reality shows bore me, and I'm not a sports fan.

No, I've never used drugs...but I have seen a family member through addiction, and it poisons the whole family. My brother was even worse than Chris-Chan when he got into one of his drug-induced "[[tard rage|turd rages]]" and destroyed the house, or stole to support his habit. My parents were enablers, just like Chris', and attempts at rehab were perfunctory at best. He's in jail now. Perhaps Chris should be. They knew he was troubled at, what, 22, 23? Isn't that what they said about that guy who shot [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabrielle_Giffords Gaby Giffords]? Is there some way for this forum's mods to reach authorities and petition them to do something about him before he shows up at a mall with a gun and blowing away folks?

''Kim Possible'' is a well-written and entertaining programs, which used to run in the days when ABC actually bought new shows for their Saturday block. It was created by two men, ostensibly remembering the Kims in their own life that they left behind in high school. I've also gotten into ''Phineas and Ferb'' recently. It's a hoot. Being older, it's easier to catch the subtle adult humor buried in shows by bored (possibly even stoned) writers/artists. She-Ra was just one feminist mind-frig--a scantily-clad warrior woman periodically attacked by mosnsters who looked like [[duck|penises]] and [[navy|sperm]]. Seriously. I'm a Freudian; I dig these things.
--[[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 23:22, 18 January 2011 (PST)

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excuse me? [[User:BabyNeko|BabyNeko]]
You should date Chris. You'd both have a good time with the randumb acess humor [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 00:03, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

excuse me? what are you talking about? [[User:BabyNeko|BabyNeko]]

Applebottom [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 00:05, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

.......fag...

cunt [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 00:07, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Im not going to bother with you....[[User: BabyNeko|BabyNeko]]

== The template ==

Can't restore it (an admin has to do that). Anyway, if someone decides to post something on his page, we just have to revert the edits. --[[User:Jerkop|Jerkop]] 06:16, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Also, instead of "marking" people, you could just make a list with their names or something. --[[User:Jerkop|Jerkop]] 06:23, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Test number 9 number 9 [[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]] 07:15, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

== Hi ==

We're here to document and discuss Chris, nothing more. Snarky comments to other CWCikians and the like don't lend aid to this goal. Attacking each other for whatever reason except extreme faggotry doesn't assist. I'm not saying we should hold hands and sing songs, but yeah. Just... live and let live a little bit. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 09:02, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
*Yeah. You really shouldn't have said this. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 09:42, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:*Me or him? I'm guessing me. I am really sick of internal drama on the CWCki. What Cogs says goes. If it's on the CWCki and not about Chris, it goes. That's all I have to say. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 11:36, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
::*After some thinking I have no idea what the fuck is going on anymore and who's on what side saying what so I'm just not gunna say anything anymore. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 14:04, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:*Delabonte, seriously? You don't have to be such a dick. Suggesting the possibility of reasoned debate is not unreasonable. Vague threats in response? Yeah, I don't care where the hell you are in the CWCki hierarchy, being a little less of a complete ass to everyone who disagrees with you would be a nice change. [[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 00:07, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Delabonte, buddy, pal, baby, you don't have to be like that to Ronichu just because he's a huge faggot. Just call him a huge faggot. [[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]] 00:12, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

== Your CWCki Forums... ==

It's an awesome idea, but one problem: the link's broken. Why's that? --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 16:48, 17 August 2010 (PDT)

==RE:==

I am Reptile, Find Me !

You must Find me to beat me

Alone is how to find me

Perfection is the key

Fatality is the key

10,000,000 Points if you destroy me

Look to La Luna

You Cannot Match my Speed

TIP EHT FO MOTTOB

Blocking will get you Nowhere

[[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 23:00, 6 January 2011 (PST)

== Reply ==

Unlike Chris, I am able to learn from my mistakes and improve myself, and my series has enjoyed a dramatic art upgrade within its five year-run. And who is more pathetic, the autistic manchild fartknocker or those who document obsessively the autistic manchild fartknocker's life? If and when he snaps and goes on a kill-spree, it'll be you trolls who drove him to it.
--[[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 23:24, 6 January 2011 (PST)

So what're you doing here then? [[User:DrShoggoth|Dr. Herodotus P. Shoggoth :Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences, Medallion Guardian, Imperial Emu, Emeritus of the Ancient and Justified Order of the Turtle]] 11:11, 7 January 2011 (PST)

Research for my next book. I'm currently reading Vivian's treatment of Chris in "A Girl Who Brought Down the World", and I think autism is the way to go with my story's main character, compounded by an overprotective mother figure and a cruel prank by schoolyard trolls. --[[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 11:10, 15 January 2011 (PST)

== Setting the record straight ==
>> '''He also steals ideas, and ain't never got no sex. He did meet a girl once, and she was creeped out by him. He's still stalking her.''' 
Rest assured I always properly credit my source inspiration at my website. The young woman in question was an immoral liar and notorious town bicycle who misrepresented herself at every turn. What you so ignorantly call "stalking" was simply tying to learn the truth about the girl I loved using every newspaperman's trick at my disposal. When I learned the truth about her I was saddened. I wrote about my experience in order to warn people about the dangers of college relationships. Following its publication I ceased any attempt at a reconciliation, moved on, and met someone else. She and I are no longer together but are still friends. --[[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 06:59, 18 January 2011 (PST)

==On College Relationships==
>>'''What's wrong with sluts? .... Because I like easy sex. Why do you hate fun?''' 
Fun is fun, sure, but honestly...I felt dirty. I mean, yes, that might work for a while, but I really came to be not much more than some unpaid escort--a male whore, quite frankly. I mean, she calls you up, expects you to drop your pants at her beck and call, and can end the relationship on a whim because you meet her for your wearing the wrong color pants. Seriously. If a guy did that to a girl Gloria Steinem and Patty Ireland would want his balls in a fruit jar on their desks. That's what [[women's rights|feminism]] has become in the post-Anita Hill, post-Lorena Bobbitt age: nuts, sluts, and angry "grrls" (sic)...ironically, not too far off from Chris' vision, which scares me. I hope they're a small minority, sure, but that's like your doctor saying, "The cancer is small, Mr. Sluggoth, so we won't do anything today." And there's a whole town full of rich little brats like that next door to my old college, and it's like nobody talks about it. I talk about it and suddenly ''I'm'' the monster. Hence my frustration. --[[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 22:48, 18 January 2011 (PST)

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The Iconoclast: /* Site unseen */

You can talk to me here, or at [http://la-trombonista.livejournal.com/ la_trombonista] on LJ.-[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]]

Thanks for the welcome, man. 8) - [[User:ABoredGameDev|ABoredGameDev]] 13:21, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

== Hey did I ever thank you for doing all that work in the IRC chats? ==

Because that was really awesome of you! Thanks a bunch!--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 22:35, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

== Oi, you ===

How come I never got a welcome pack? :( I'm disappointed --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 00:42, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
*You joined CWCki before I did.-[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 00:45, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:* Oh, right. Ok, can I get a retrospective one? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 00:46, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
::*Thanks Trombonista :) --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 01:18, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== Chris' -> Chris's ==

Hey mate, I saw the changes you made to Chris and Remorse (turning Chris' into Chris's) and I was about to fly into a tard rage and change it back, but I figured I should try and find a source before I did. Turns out you are right about how it should be; specifically, to the best of my now current understanding, if Chris's CWCipedia ever shows an article where Chris claims to speak for all Chrisses, and these collective Chrisses' voices say they don't want him to speak for them, then that is how it should be written.

My head hurts now. You have rocked me to my ''core'', good lady. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 07:47, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

== Also, Mumble 6 ==

Thanks for fixing up Falsion's name in Mumble 6. I have no idea who these people are so I'm only basing my transcription on what I can hear. Names are something I'm struggling with- in fact, the first part of this whole damnable thing needs a re-listen to so I can name the trolls. Thanks for your help! -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 07:47, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

== Busy aren't we? ==

Where do you find the time to categorize both CWCki fanart and Asperpedia comics? More importantly, what would compel you to take on such an insanely huge task? Just curious. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]]
:I just felt like it.-[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 03:36, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== The Welcome Message ==

>Be especially sure to read this if you consider anonymous to be legion

I lol'd. --[[User:Saul Goodman|Saul Goodman]] 05:16, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
*That's nice, but I didn't make the template.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 18:19, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I just wanted to say thanks for the welcome! --[[User:Paperback|Paperback]] 05:59, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
*You're welcome.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 18:19, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Whereabouts in the North Burbs? I live near the Addison Blue Line stop. --[[User:Skuntank|Skuntank]] 04:40, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
*Highland Park.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 05:11, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
**That is p close! Do you know anyone else on here nearby? We should have a meetup for Long Island iced teas. --[[User:Skuntank|Skuntank]] 02:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Re:GJ ==

No prob! And thanks for undoing his edits. The guy needs a new hobby, seriously. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' 22:38, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

== Thanks for the welcome and the template ==

Wow, you did this back in May, but I just got around to seeing it now...sorry!
Thanks for the welcome and the Americunt template! Haha! I'm gonna work on trying to make my user page more "spiffy".{{Unsigned|Coqui}}

== Happy Rosh Hashanah! ==

[[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 15:20, 9 September 2010 (PDT)

== Thanks! ==

For the welcome message, specifically. In exchange, a thanks section on your talk page for everyone to piggyback off of.--[[User:Absent|Absent]] 19:56, 3 November 2010 (PDT)

== Thank you, Trombonista! ==

Thanks for the warm welcome! I look forward to working with you and the rest of the cwcki community!{{Unsigned|Darkhorse816}}

== Sightings ==

*I know this, however, the article was made for a reason. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 21:57, 22 December 2010 (PST)CFA
**I know; you made it for attention, right?--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 13:06, 23 December 2010 (PST)

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The Iconoclast:

United States of America

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The Iconoclast:

{{Quote|Okay, I don't know the words, but I am being patriotic here!|Chris, [[Red Letter CWC Certified Day|forgetting the national anthem]].}}
[[File:SonichuFlag.png|thumb|Christian's primary thoughts on the U.S....]]

[[Chris]] is a citizen of the '''United States of America''', a federal democratic republic in North America. The nation is considered the only remaining [[China|superpower]] since the end of the Cold War, and is a leading economic, political and cultural force in the world.

Chris's stance on the nation he lives in is inconsistent at best. While he claims to be a good citizen who loves and respects his country, his [[Twin Falling Towers|actions]] are often [[Chris and Hypocrisy|very obviously]] contrary to these claims.

==Politics==

[[File:Cwcflag1.png|thumb|...Christian's ''other'' thoughts on the U.S...]]

At a glance, Chris's sense of politics seem very inconsistent; on some issues, he takes a very [[Wikipedia:Conservatism in the United States|conservative]] stance, on others a very [[Wikipedia:Liberalism in the United States|liberal]] one. While many people have an independent or bipartisan opinion, one has to realize the true nature of Chris's decision-making: that Chris doesn't favor what's good for America, but rather what's good for Chris (and believes that [[Chris and his ego|these two ends are one and the same]]). As such, he's against gay marriage because he hates da [[homos]], and supported [[Barack Obama]] because he saw himself in him, before he accused him of [[Chris and race|selling out the country to brown-skinned people]].{{cite}} He thinks Seth MacFarlane, a huge flaming leftie who supports gay rights, is a staunch right-winger who shares his decidedly warped views on homosexuals.

Soon after, he clarified that he [[Mailbag 20#Chris on abortion|supports abortion]], undoubtedly to show his appreciation for [[Women's Rights]]. Another recent political insight is the vague statement [[Mailbag 4|'I agree with gun control']], despite Chris's numerous [[death threats]] and [[Sonichu Special 4|vigilante plans]] that would require a firearm.

Chris proclaims himself to be a "moderate". While typically this simply means not having extreme or overly partisan political beliefs, he takes this as a general-purpose response to all questions about politics, including ones that have no defined middle path. Nowhere is this more apparent than in the [[Mailbags]], where Chris will often dodge giving his opinion on issues ''every'' voter should have an opinion on, simply because ''he has no opinion.''

Chris doesn't react well in situations where he absolutely has to make a choice ([[Julie Reveals Herself|Julie or PSN? A question for the ages!]]), and seems easily persuaded on matters that he doesn't really have a stake on. As a result, he often comes across as a weathervane, just repeating whatever opinion has most recently lodged itself in his head. His changing opinion about Obama is a good example of this, as he has echoed the sentiments from his father, a documentary, and then from his father again, adopting a positive and negative stance based on what he hears; he never really stops to make a summary and decide what points really matter to ''him''.

In short, Chris is the worst sort of liberal: one who has never sat down and read the manual.

==Understanding of government==

Chris's grasp of how the government works, much like Chris's grasp on [[reality]] as a whole, is shaky at best. One of the most telling examples of this is his ignorant stance on taxation and [[Monthly tugboat|welfare]]. Because Chris is jobless, he pays no taxes and presumably files no tax returns. However, he still thinks of himself as a contributing member of society, because he pays ''sales taxes'' on the massive amount of crap he buys.

{{Quote|My spending that money ends up going to others who get such welfare and all as well.... I am sharing the wealth with others who are on that tugboat as well.|Chris, [[Mailbag 34#In which Chris fails economics forever|explaining why he deserves free money]].}}

It's highly unlikely that Chris understands the massive discrepancy between the amount the government pays him and the amount he gives back via sales tax. Chris also fails to understand that sales taxes are collected by state and local governments, while his welfare check comes from the federal government.

Chris also seems to have difficulty understanding what the true purpose of government actually is. The U.S. government's duty is to follow the will of the majority while respecting the rights of the minority, to protect its citizens from danger, and to ensure the continued prosperity of the nation. Chris, however, would like it to become a force for social engineering that would make the most rabid totalitarian shudder. When asked hypothetical questions about what he would do if he were running things, he proposes bizarre sweeping laws that single out [[Homos|certain minorities]] and force individuals into relationships whether they want to be in one or not.

{{Quote|All Men and Women would be paired up in straight couples, leaving none alone; any remaining will be saved for upcoming men/women respectively. All gays would be reprogrammed and encouraged to be straight.|Chris [[Common Questions#28 December 2009|on effective leadership]].}}

The fact that this would not help the country at all, and in fact could possibly destroy society as we know it, does not factor into Chris's thinking. By his logic, since he wants a girlfriend, ''everybody'' must want a girlfriend, and if everybody wants a girlfriend, the government needs to make it happen.

Over the years, Chris has proposed a large number of laws, even sending letters to President [[Barack Obama]] demanding legislation against [[trolls]] and [[homos]]. This is completely useless for two reasons: one, the President of the United States has much more pressing concerns than making an insane manchild in Ruckersville, VA, happy, and two, the US President ''can't make laws''. (Separation of powers and checks and balances in government are concepts Chris has no time for — [[CWCville]], after all, is a hereditary dictatorship.)

Oddly, the closest analog for how Chris views his government is how Chris views his [[religion]]. He treats both the US government and God as things that can be completely ignored unless he has a personal problem, at which point they should immediately step in and help. He believes that both have a deeply vested interest in himself, often at the expense of everybody else. God should damn [[Clyde Cash]], and the FBI should arrest him. It doesn't matter that Clyde hasn't done anything the FBI would be terribly interested in; Chris is mad at him, and that's all that matters.

== Chris on patriotism ==

As established, Chris has a very [[naïve]] view of American politics, and how the federal government operates. Despite these setbacks, Chris has developed a unique brand of patriotism his brings up quite often, usually either in defense of his character or dehumanization of his [[Trolls|enemies]]. As a result, these stabs at jingoism often feel forced or out of place. Chris has utilized this tactic in [[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]], with the iconic "Clarksville Address":

{{quote|Yes, sir, my loving, caring [[Sweetheart]] and I have come to discuss the web page in question. We humbly request that it would be removed from the internet for good. For you are not just dragging Christian Weston Chandler's name in the mud, you also drag the American hopes and dreams and ideas of the majority of these great, humble United States of America along with him.|Sonichu, [[Sonichu 8|delivering the Clarksville Address]]}}

[[Image:CWCVictoryForIvy.jpg|thumb|Chris bastardizing the American flag with his favorite shirt]]

Here, we can see the prime factor in Chris's logic. Namely, that [[Song of Christian|his problems are analogous with the problems of every American]]. Therefore, if [[ED]] satirizes him, they insult all US citizens. This would become something of a recurring theme, with a later [[Do Not Dis C Ville|video]] claiming that any attack on Chris or [[CWCville|his fictional utopia]] was equivalent to mocking any 'C-ville' in America. On a shallower level, it's an obvious ploy for sympathy, a facade of reasonable nationalism that aims to make him the 'good guy', and by extension, [[Jason]] the 'bad guy'. Thus, patriotic symbolism is thrown in, without really even considering whether or not it makes sense in context. Chris is patriotic simply because he believes that's what will win him [[Scale of Respect|respect]] and reprieve. It goes without saying that, while constantly implying that insults to him are also insults to America, Christian insults his home country far, far more by making connections between his aberrant behavior and Americans in general.

His attempts to prove his patriotism are undermined, however, by his [[Twin Falling Towers|tendency to mock national tragedies]] and [[Chris and music|complete inability to sing even the most well-known patriotic songs.]] If anything, Chris's attempts to prove himself a "true American" end up having the ''opposite'' effect.

However, his bumbling enthusiasm isn't reserved for the USA alone. Like many Americans, Chris has developed a fake lineage of European ancestry, starting from [[Anne Boleyn]], a Queen of England who was executed in 1536. This was almost instantly proven false when her ultimate descendant Queen Elizabeth I, who died in 1603 childless. Then Chris tried in vain to co-opt British, Scottish, and Irish national sentiment in his [[Tito Got No Luck Against We Brits, Irish and Scots!|kilt-clad tirade against Surfshack Tito]] as a means of intimidation. Also, while not a standard country per se, he also evoked his relation to the Cherokee Nation in his infamous [[War Paint Video|armed declaration of war against the trolls]]. Finally, Chris attempts to use the fact that February 24 is Mexico's Flag Day to justify [[Christian Love Day|turning his own birthday into a holiday]], an ''American'' holiday. Note that all of these cases, Chris's total ignorance of other nations means he [[fail]]s spectacularly at representing them and appearing patriotic.
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==Chris for President?==
[[File:CWCVilleTrueFlag.png|thumb|...and, what Chris's thoughts on America equate to!]]

In a [[A Public Announcement for Congress|more recent video]], Chris outlined his actions for what he would do if elected president. He declared he would [[Chris and money|cut taxes in half, build "soup hotels", give senior citizens increased funds for medications and special services]], restrict guns to law enforcement personnel only, [[homos|allow gay marriage]], and [[EXCLUSIVE Manchester High School 2000 Reunion Required NOW|form a special police force that focuses entirely on capturing internet trolls.]]

Aside from his failure to deliver a good speech, this video also showcases his complete and utter ignorance of how government and taxes work. [[Mailbag 18|Building luxury hotels for the homeless]] and increasing social security for [[Bob|senior citizens]] would cost a fortune to do, yet he also proposes cutting taxes in half, thus also reducing the amount of money the government can spend in half. Given that Chris probably has [[Honor Roll|no knowledge of economics]], he probably just assumes that money can be printed endlessly without fear of inflation (Of course, that's assuming he put any thought at all into his policies).

Chris's restrictions of guns to professionals only is a blatant violation of the 2nd amendment, which allows American citizens to own a gun for protection. While there are certain restrictions on who can own a gun and what type, a flat-out ban on weapons for everyone would no doubt be found unconstitutional. Then again, Chris isn't exactly big on [[Homos|respecting]] [[Alec Benson Leary|the]] [[Megan|rights]] [[Mailbag 31|of]] [[Niggos|others.]]

His departure from his previous stance on gay marriage is surprising ,but then again, he was influenced by a [[Jackie|certain someone]] when he made the video. Despite his decree of equal rights, he does finish up his point by imploring gays to [[Sex tape|"keep it to yourselves in your room, just don't force it upon everybody"]]. Meanwhile, straight couples can flaunt their heterosexuality to their heart's delight.

[[File:Idealworld.jpg|thumb|left|Chris's [[CWCville|ideal America]].]]

While taxes, government spending, gay marriage and gun control are all big issues, Chris finishes up his video by proposing his most important change: the establishment of a special "trollbusters" unit of [[Chris and the law|law enforcement]], apparently dedicated to finding trolls who make fun of people online, and incarcerating them. While a cybercrimes unit already exists for the FBI, they spend their time pursuing real criminals like pedophiles and scam artists, not people who make fun of [[Chris|retarded inbred cry-babies]].

The fact that Chris has complained to law enforcement previously, but not seen them do anything about it, leads Chris to believe that it must not exist; [[ego|otherwise they would be spending all their resources tracking down the people who make fun of him]]. The fact that Chris is willing to suspend constitutional rights and spend countless millions to incarcerate people that make fun of him is proof that Chris is neither a Republican, Democrat, or moderate; he's more of a fascist.

TL;DR, Chris's ideal America is an America where he is in charge, the Bill of Rights only applies when he feels like it should, and his birthday is a national holiday. In other words, his ideal America is North Korea.

Kim Il-Sung would be proud!

==See also==
*[[American Rabbit]]

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