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2021-07-31T16:51:50Z

The World Is Yours: Editing out blatant fake news misinformation. This has no place here. I'd actually argue Chris and Barb are even more fucked due to the side effects that are no surfacing from this "vaccine"

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{{quote|This Viral Event is actually a better step in our own developments and evolution, as well as a deity-level test to sort out the weak from the moderate and strong|Chris.<ref name=viral>[[March 2020 social media posts#Chris finally weighs in on the coronavirus pandemic]]</ref>}}
[[File:CWCorona.png|thumb|Coronavirus attacking C-197. Colorized]]
'''[[wikipedia:Coronavirus disease 2019|COVID-19]]''' ('''Co'''rona'''vi'''rus '''D'''isease 20'''19'''), caused by a virus officially named '''SARS-CoV-2''' and colloquially referred to simply as '''coronavirus''', is a fast-spreading disease responsible for the largest pandemic of the 21st century thus far, infecting millions of Americans and even [[Pmurt|the 45th President of the United States]]. It has prompted governments to recommend stricter [[ShowerClean|sanitation routines]]; and to encourage social distancing practices, such as [[BACK THE FUCK OFF|staying six feet (2 meters) apart]], [[CWC Calls Out Three Naïve YouTubers#CWC Calls Out sonichuizcool|wearing masks]] when going out, and only keeping essential services open – which, to the dismay of [[Chris]], doesn't include conventions.

In [[March 2020]], in the midst of the pandemic, Chris exhibited a juvenile attitude to the nature of the disease and the [[Chris and health|body's own workings]]. He believes learning about the symptoms would [[Slow-in-the-minds|mentally tire]] him which would put him at a higher risk of contracting the virus.<ref name=viral></ref> Later that month, he endorsed watching the [[anime]] series ''[[wikipedia:Cells at Work!|Cells at Work!]]'' to build one's resistance.<ref>[[March 2020 social media posts#watch anime to kill coronavirus]], 22 March 2020</ref> This anime depicts cells - specifically those of the blood and immune system - as people, and is based on anatomical and hematologic science, but with obvious artistic license taken considering the way the series is portrayed. Given Chris's views on [[OCs]], it would appear that he believes ''Cells at Work!'' to be a direct, literal depiction of what goes on in his body.

Chris and [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] became fully vaccinated in [[May 2021]].<ref>[[May 2021 social media posts#Chris gets vaccinated]]</ref> As of July 2021, over half of the United States has been fully vaccinated and things are slowly returning to a state of normalcy.

==Impact on Chris's fantasies==
[[File:Coronachu.png|thumb|This is what Chris probably believes.]]
On 28 March, Chris claimed the pandemic to be a sign of the [[Dimensional Merge]] and that COVID-19 was cured weeks ago in his fantasy world. Chris also claimed that ''[[My Little Pony]]'' characters were working to stop the pandemic problems in the real world.<ref>[[March 2020 social media posts#COVID-19 a sign of Dimensional Merge]]</ref> This disease had also made its way to [[CWCville]] in [[Dimensions#C-197|C-197]] and some neighboring dimensions, but was somehow cured in all of them by mid April 2020. (Chris would eventually state that in his fantasy land, the "Devil's Breath" virus released by Doctor Octopus in the 2018 ''{{w|Spider-Man (2018 video game)|Spider-Man}}'' video game was analogous to COVID-19's spread in the real world. Given that the virus is dealt with fairly quickly in-game after the outbreak, this could be in-line with Chris's timeline, even if the game is set in the Autumn rather than Winter/Spring.)<ref>[[January 2021 social media posts#Bodyswap announcement]]</ref>

Chris's beliefs in how COVID-19 factors into the Dimensional Merge is also incredibly contradictory. Chris has claimed that this pandemic is a part of the convergence as a way of [[Dimensional Merge#Beliefs on the Merge|evening out the population]] on both sides of the iron curtain before it can occur. He says this virus [[Nazis|will help remove those who are]] [[Honor roll|mentally]] and [[I AM STRONG|physically]] weak. However, he also claims that [[Chris and reality|he will use time travel to undo the pandemic in our timeline]] so he can attend [[BABSCon|BABSCon 2020]], which directly contradicts his own stated beliefs in the Dimensional Merge saying that everyone who dies will make the process easier.

Furthermore, his statement that he used a [[Spirit possession|"body swap"]] to attend BABSCon 2020 in C-197 makes the entire idea of Chris time-travelling and saving millions from contracting the Coronavirus and hundreds of thousands dying entirely irreconcilable with the idea that all of the people that died needed to for the Dimensional Merge to happen; after all, why bother with all that death and Merge preparation if he's just going to set things back by time travelling to create a new timeline where the event was never cancelled? On top of that, the idea that the people who die in Dimension 1218 as a result of the Merge being resurrected in Dimension C-197 does nothing to "thin the herd", and thus the oncoming world's populace would suffer from overpopulation problems after the Merge.

Chris, of course, conveniently ignores these issues because [[Mathematics|he can't put two and two together]], because [[Chris and writing|he just can't keep his shitty narrative straight]]. These inconsistencies reveal that this entire diatribe, down to Chris pretending to be his own fictional character for more than half a year, is nothing more than an elaborate [[Chris and coping|coping mechanism]] where he can create a scenario in his mind that allows him to go to a convention that got cancelled instead of just ''imagining'' that he did in his fantasy world. Eventually, he got bored of pretending to be Sonichu and reverted to being himself in February 2021; he continues to believe that the Merge is coming, although he's seemingly come to terms with the fact that the 2020 and 2021 iterations of BABScon are not coming.

[[Weens]] and [[A-Log]]s have tried to [[August_2020_social_media_posts#Very_Distant_alt-timeline|crowbar]] a more severe outbreak into C-197, with one known attempt using the Corona-Chan meme, but Chris has so far dismissed them as taking place in yet more alternate dimensions. However, since {{w|roleplaying|roleplay}} writers do not have to include the pandemic in their universes for any reason, Chris could have just said that COVID-19 simply did not happen in C-197, and that would have been it.

===Stopping the pandemic===
[[Spirit_possession#Sonichu|Sonichu, in Chris's body]] has a plan to stop the pandemic, by going [[Chris and reality|back in time]] and undoing it. His intent to do so was announced in an address to the Official CWCki [[Discord]] server on 12 August 2020:<ref>[[Discord#CWCki_Server]]</ref>

{{quotebox|Hello, @everyone. I have something to tell all of you: in regard to everything that has happened and are happening in regard to not only the Dimension Merge, but also in that I am to get this body into C-197 and to Cwcville, and the greater details beyond that that involve me going back in time and undoing this pandemic from ever happening. I wish to make it very direct and clear that this is very sincere and serious, and when talking with me about it, it is not at all to be in humoring anyone. And I am very well aware of the percentage of those who think it a joke when it clearly is not at all. In other words, to talk with me means to talk with sincerity and full acceptance of the situations. I will not accept or tolerate [[Chris and work|Neet behaviour]], or any disingenuous mentality and intentions.}}

When answering a user's question about this vague plan the next day, "Sonichu" reiterated that undoing the pandemic was the main objective, and that there were currently no plans to change other past events.<ref>[[Discord#Answering_Mailbag_in_Cwcki_server]]</ref>

The plan was briefly referenced again in the [[September 2020 Watchmen leaks#Debt hearing, toys, Merge|2 September 2020 Watchmen leak]], where "Sonichu" said it would be enacted after Chris's body fully unlocks all necessary [[Messiah complex|abilities and powers]].

Further details, such as how this time-travel plan will be implemented, are currently unknown, perhaps even to Chris.

Notably, preventing COVID-19 would fulfill Chris' [[September_2019_social_media_posts#Yet_another_brony_convention|prophecy]] that he will attend BABSCon 2020.

==Impact on Chris IRL==
Due to COVID-19 being declared a global pandemic in early 2020, multiple rules came into effect, including but not limited to shutting down of all non-essential services. Though the definition of essential was very vague in the USA, conventions were labelled non-essential and were not allowed to open. This [[Stress|stressed]] our autistic hero as he could no longer go the places that had (somewhat) accepted him.

Chris couldn't deal with the cancellation of the one place where he found people who liked the same things he did and as a [[Chris and coping|coping mechanism]] declared that Sonichu has taken over his body and his soul has left for CWCville to attend BABScon.<ref>[[April 2020 social media posts#Chris body swaps with Sonichu to cope with missing BABScon]]</ref> Despite social distancing having been enforced in Virginia, this didn't stop Chris [[Spirit possession|(as Sonichu)]] attending the [[Leftovermedia]] livestream with [[Weening|ween]] Noah and the musician Max Mandu, footage from the livestream clearly showing that social distancing wasn't in place.

Chris also said that a vaccine would be developed within two weeks from mid-March, suggesting that all his knowledge about epidemics comes from ''[[Chris and reality|Plague Inc.]]'' and games like it. He then went on to say that we have not applied what we have learnt from past epidemics to this one. During the SARS and MERS epidemics, we were not able to create a vaccine 3 months after they were detected, thereby proving how [[naïve]] he is.

==Spending==
===Support for artists===
[[File:Bottlecaps.jpg|thumb|150px|Unlike Chris's finances, the hoard keeps increasing]]

Instead of paying [[Financhu Crisis|his mortgage or various loans]], Chris [[Chris and money|decided]] that he will be buying all the garbage that other Bronies have for sale online.<ref>[[April 2020 social media posts#Sonichu spends money]]</ref> He begged his audience to buy his cards and comics so he can then give that money to Bronycon artists. When people called him out for this, he said the cancellation of Bronycon left these people with no source of income and that he was a helpful[[Chris and escapism| <s>person</s> Sonichu]] for buying their trinkets.<ref>[[April 2020 social media posts#Money well spent]]</ref>
Chris probably doesn't actually care about the artists and just wanted all their products and gave his stupid reason to justify wasting money.
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===Stimulus check===
[[File:Chrisnewtablet.jpg|thumb|200px|Notice the charging cable held together using tape and velcro. [[2014 house fire|History might repeat itself.]]]]

On 29 May, Chris purchased an iPad, stylus, and subscription to Clipstudio to draw art digitally, using money from the Economic Impact Payment [[Monthly tugboat|stimulus money]] sent out by the [[Pmurt]] administration.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1266470207717072898</ref> Chris complained about how difficult the software was to use.<ref>https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1266470865459429378</ref>
It is to be noted that Chris thinks this money came from Trump's wallet and not the Federal reserve.
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==Vaccination==
{{quote|This [[14 Branchland Court|Temple]]’s occupants are now Fully #VAXXED to the Extreme!|Chris<ref name=vaccine>[[May 2021 social media posts#Chris gets vaccinated]]</ref>}}

[[File:May19VaccinePhoto.jpg|thumb|150px|Chris displaying his vaccination card.]]

Chris received two doses of the Pfizer vaccine - first on 28 April 2021 and second on 17 May 2021. To identify himself as among those being fully vaxxed, he laminated his vaccination card with shipping tape and put it on a [[BronyCon]] lanyard to wear around his neck.<ref name=vaccine2>[[May 2021 social media posts#Vaccine card]]</ref>

[[Barbara]] was also fully vaccinated, receiving her second shot on 28 April.<ref name=vaccine></ref> Chris laminated her vaccine card with shipping tape as well and attached it to her purse.<ref name=vaccine2>[[May 2021 social media posts#Vaccine card]]</ref>

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==References==
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==See also==
*[[BABSCon]]
*[[Chris and health]]

== External links ==

* [https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019 TRUE and HONEST] information about COVID-19

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Talk:14 Branchland Court

2017-06-21T16:16:48Z

The World Is Yours: /* infestation */ new section

Should the videos be posted here or only on the main article? I think they should be posted on both, and this page should link back to the original. What say ye? --[[User:Tregnier2795|Tregnier2795]] 01:25, 22 June 2009 (CEST)
:*I think that this article is already a little bit too long, and adding two videos to it would only make it even longer. Yes, having the videos here would be illustrative, but it would also be redundant. Anyone who comes here and wants to watch the videos has a huge link to the videos' own page staring them in the face, so I don't see why they can't just go there. Lastly, if the videos were to remain double-posted here, I'm sure that someone would eventually start complaining that there were no transcripts (or else start needlessly re-transcribing them). Can't we just opt to avoid all of that Stressful Torture? [[User:Llort|Llort]] 02:23, 22 June 2009 (CEST)
** I guess. It just seems that having the two vids on the page, while redundant, makes it much more efficient. You wanna see the videos themselves and the descriptions/analysis? See the Branchland Court article. Want the vids and a transcript? See the main article. Maybe add such a description to the link to the video article? --[[User:Tregnier2795|Tregnier2795]] 10:51, 23 June 2009 (CEST)

==Question==
I've heard that Chris waits by the mail box daily for the post to arrive to intercept mail from his parents incase any new NOODS arrive for them, is there any substance to that claim?--[[User:UncleBastard|UncleBastard]] 00:21, 23 July 2009 (CEST)

==To do==
Add a picture of the sign trolls left in her yard (thankfully, we have a picture from [[Svenka]], of all people to thank) and a little bit about what to do if they choose to "visit" the house IRL (or more appropriately, a warning against it). --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:48, 14 August 2009 (CEST)

==Dox==
We should make keep a record of the times Chris has dropped his address publicly, in videos and on his website openly (there was a time when people found his address by looking on a white pages website). --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:35, 24 November 2009 (CET)
* Added at least a partial list. There may be more videos I've missed, though. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 08:23, 24 November 2009 (CET)

== A&E's Hoarders ==

I have just learned that A&E has this program called ''Hoarders'', where they go to the homes of compulsive hoarders and clean up their house for them. Maybe we should do this for CWC. [http://hoardersdocumentary.com/machform/view.php?id=3 Here's the form that needs to be filled out for it.] It'll take some time to fill out, but if A&E ever does go to CWC's house, it would provide copious amounts of lulz. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 00:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
*Slowpoke.jpg.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 00:20, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
**Argh. Beaten again. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 01:01, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Today I Got an email from a girl that works at A&E that says that they sent a crew, but Barb slammed the door in their faces.--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 13:06, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
*Share it, please. Reality TV doesn't work that way; Hoarders contacts the family right out of the gate to assess the psychological issues. They don't just send a crew down on the word of random people on the internet. [[User:Kazmeyer|Kazmeyer]] 22:36, 19 September 2011 (PDT)
**Never mind, see it on your user page. "Allison.hoarders@gmail.com" -- yeah. [[User:Kazmeyer|Kazmeyer]] 22:39, 19 September 2011 (PDT)

== Quote in "Mail" section ==

The one about how Chris handles his mail, can we cite where it's from? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:54, 6 May 2011 (PDT)

== Selling? ==

I'm not certain as to whether or not this is relevant, but I think the Chandlers might be trying to sell the house again. Here's the link to the website in question. http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/14-Branchland-Ct-Ruckersville-VA-22968/107910124_zpid/ -- [[User:IcyHotWings|IcyHotWings]] --
: We need more info. Can anyone validates this? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 09:54, 6 July 2011 (PDT)

:: Not legit. This site list's everyone's house and offer's what they think the house is worth. Type in your own address, and it'll show your house for sale. --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 10:06, 20 September 2011 (PDT)

== House layout and fire damage ==
I made a [[:File:CWChouse-floorplan.gif|draft]] of what the floorplan seems to be/had been, based on the two Tour videos, with a fair consistency based on his progression through each (best I could tell through the darkness and quality); I think I got it mostly right, exept I am unsure if Chris' room is the back left, or the front left--- but either way, his house is quite narrow, so I'm sure his room was torched just being 'on the left', so it may not be as relevant anymore. Wanted to have other people see for themselves to see if it looks right (room proportions not withstanding). --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] ([[User talk:Xavier orona|talk]]) 09:32, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

== Number change ==

Sources pre-2000 tend to refer to a "46 Branchland Ct" (e.g. Cole's postcard to Barb in 1994). Could it be that the original number of the house was 46 and it was renumbered to 14 sometime after 2000? [[User:FokkerTISM|FokkerTISM]] ([[User talk:FokkerTISM|talk]]) 03:09, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

== infestation ==

I'm curious, the only thing mentioned about this 'infestation' is that Bob had bites all over to him. Because a friend and I have recently dealt with the scourge known as bedbugs, and given Chris' horrendous hygiene and how they keep their house, I'm almost 100% sure this is what they have. It's not hard to catch them, whether you're a clean person or not, but in a place like 14 Branchland Court, they would multiple like crazy. Does anyone have anymore info? I'd like it if the article elaborated. Barb and Chris both are probably both being eaten alive, and if not yet, then soon, especially if they've had them since Bob's death.
Or did the fire take them out?--[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 16:16, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Chris and fashion

2017-04-20T23:28:28Z

The World Is Yours: /* Trademark clothing */

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[[Image:0043-YoungChristopher2.jpg|thumb|Fashion passes. Style is forever.]]
[[File:GoodwillCville.jpg|thumb|200px|The [[Ruckersville]] Goodwill which Chris patronizes.]]
{{Quote|Oh yeah, you just love to see me in my- in the old red, white and blue.|Chris to [[Kacey]]<ref>[[Kacey Call 2]]g</ref>}}

[[Christian Weston Chandler]] has a somewhat peculiar taste in '''fashion'''. Although he is willing to [[Chris and money|spend thousands of dollars]] on [[video games]], [[toys]], and [[sex dolls]], Chris is very stingy when it comes to shopping for his clothes, which are usually purchased secondhand at thrift stores like [[Wikipedia:Salvation Army|The Salvation Army]] and [[Wikipedia:Goodwill Industries|Goodwill]]. Prior to the [[Tomgirl Saga]], the majority of shirts he owned were colorful collared shirts and undersized rugby shirts, most of which were decorated with horizontal stripes, making him look even [[Obesity|fatter]]. [[Mailbag 42#The rugby shirt he wore for 3 days in a row isn't a favorite or anything|Mailbag 42]] revealed that at least one of these shirts (the "Advice Dog") was purchased by his [[Barbara Chandler|mother]]. Though his mother didn't directly dress him anymore, Chris still chose to wear these shirts. The advent of the [[Tomgirl Saga]] was accompanied by a change to garb that may have been more feminine, but was equally cheap and hideous.

== The Fashion Sense of Chris (Pre-Tomgirl)==
=== Childhood ===
[[Image:Ernie.jpg|thumb|Ernie also enjoys "The Classic".]]

In his youth, Chris set the general tone for years to come with many striped polos, T-shirts, and khaki pants. The only difference compared to adulthood is that he sometimes dared to wear single-colored shirts with his favorite [[Sonic the Hedgehog|game]] and [[television]] characters on them. The only article of clothing he was seen in until the summer of [[2010]] that didn't follow the "long-sleeved, colorful clown suit" theme was the [[Pokémon]] T-shirt that he owned since he was 19. Being yellow, it did not look particularly good on him.

=== Trademark clothing ===
[[File:Chrischan5.jpg|thumb|left|Artist's vision of Chris's typical outfit, featuring "the Horizontal Horror".]]

This is the original and most iconic look of Chris, the standard until mid-2011. It is a look immortalized in his [[Sonichu (comic)|comic book]] self-insertion. His outfit usually consisted of:
* His favorite shirt, a [[Chris and brand loyalty|St. John's Bay®]] Rugby Stripe Sueded Polo, which was so tight that it accentuated his voluptuous, masculine bosoms. This is the shirt that Chris almost invariably drew himself wearing in the comics. Trolls came to call it the "clown shirt" or "The Classic." It was thought destroyed in the [[Destruction Of Chris's House|2014 fire]] that gutted the Chandler house, but later resurfaced for sale in 2017.<ref>[[eBay]] comment: "I lost the shirt in the fire" http://contact.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowAllQuestions&iid=191232666489&requested=jesusguidesme2&redirect=0&frm=2047675&ShowASQAlways=1&ssPageName=PageAskSellerQuestion_VI</ref>
* His [[medallions]] (sporadically) and his [[High School Ring]]
* A pair of [[pedo-glasses]] attached to a chain.
* Jeans or khaki slacks. Chris's jeans typically defined his rear end to a disturbing level — he may have been wearing women's jeans, or he may have been simply wearing pants his gut long ago outgrew.
* The [[Belt Buckle of Fail]].
* Alternatively, a green terrycloth bathrobe with a mismatched (of course) black belt on occasions when he's [[April 16 Fetish Vids|in the mood]] for [[recycling]], or when even getting dressed would involve too much [[stress]].
* On occasion, a dark suit jacket, perhaps for [[Chris and death|funerals]] or [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|church]].
* During the winter months, a dark blue parka with orange and yellow stripes to enhance visibility.
* Starting in late [[2009]], a [[bra]] to keep the previously mentioned bosoms in check.

===The "IBA" outfit===
[[File:The Chronicles Of Chris-Chan- They see me trollin, they laughin'... -7-17-09-.mp4 20140516 130015.190.jpg|thumb|The "IBA" outfit.]]
In mid-[[2009#June|June 2009]], roughly around the time he made certain friends, Chris temporarily decided that his current look was old hat. He got rid of many of the striped shirts (mostly because he couldn't fit into them anymore) and grew a goatee.

The reformed Chris's wardrobe consisted of:

*Sunglasses over normal glasses (glasses chain remains)
*T-shirt over long sleeved shirt.
*Goatee.
*Tattoo sleeves
*A black vest that was too small for his girth.

His new attire was first properly presented to the world in the [[Rollin' and Trollin']] video.

Soon afterward, however, he went back to sporting his traditional clown shirts, and claimed that he had been pressured into making the Rollin' and Trollin' video. However, on the same day he [[That Goatee WILL Grow Back|shaved his beard]], he drew the first picture of [[Collosal Chan]], a character which preserved the look for all eternity.

===The "Gay Trucker" outfit===

[[Image:Personalprofile.jpg|thumb|Notice how his pose in this picture is eerily reminiscent of his pose in [[ShecameforCWC.jpg]].]]

After he promised to leave the [[Internet]] in the spring of [[2010]], Chris threw away his clown shirts, ditched the medallion for several months (it returned in [[Haters Gonna Hate.MOV|September]]), and picked up a new wardrobe in an attempt to look like a normal person. This included a denim jacket from Goodwill that he cut the sleeves off of, making it look somewhat like a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilet gilet].<ref>[[Kacey Call 2]]</ref> The result was a modified version of the IBA outfit. It has been observed that when Chris tries to look like a bad boy, he ends up looking like a [[Truck Driver|gay trucker]], hence the trolls' term for his new wardrobe.

The only way he could have made it look gayer would have been by combining it with his muscle bra. Which, unfortunately, he did. [[Fridays After Five|And in public.]] At this point, going back to the medallion would have actually ''improved'' his chances of picking up [[gal-pals]].

[[File:EnjoyVagaina.jpg|thumb|left|Deftly combining what Chris [[Coke|has too much of]] and what he [[China|will never have]] [[Facebook#An Open Note (4/13/2012)|with a non-prostitute]].]]

With the arrival of the gay trucker outfit also came an interest in T-shirts that boldly expressed Chris's desire for sex, often in exceedingly tasteless ways. The first clear look at one of these shirts was in a [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV|profoundly disturbing video]] leaked in late [[April 2010]] which featured Chris wearing a [[parody]] shirt that changed the Mountain Dew logo so it read "Mount and Do Me." Fans hoped that since this was a private video for a potential sweetheart, Chris didn't intend to dress like that outside his [[bedroom]]. Alas, Chris destroyed any hope of that being the case on 18 [[June 2010]] when he wore a shirt that said "Enjoy Vagina" to Fridays After Five - a '''public, ''family-oriented''''' concert. He topped this by pulling that shirt over his head and standing around in his muscle bra, on which he had written "WANT WOMAN!" The common belief is that these unfunny, sexually-themed shirts are the next evolution of the [[attraction sign]], a way for him to inform potential mates that he is available without ever having to talk to people, nor spend any effort in making a sign.

In late [[August 2010]], Chris returned to the Internet with a series of videos in which he sported simple, loose-fitting T-shirts. The effect was interesting, bringing him closer to normality than he'd been in many years. He was still a pale, sweaty, balding, fat, pathetically weak manchild, but in Ruckersville, that put him reasonably close to the mainstream.

A number of Chris's T-shirts appear to have been with him for a decade or more--a Manchester High shirt, a souvenir shirt from the BrickFest event in [[2000]], and a [[Pokémon]] trainer shirt from the Books-a-Million where Chris played [[card games]] between [[1998]] and 2000. Either he's willing to keep shirts that have some personal significance around for a very long time, or his packrat tendencies prevent him from throwing any of them away.
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===The [[Carlos Chantor]] outfit===
[[File:Chantor.jpg|thumb|His best outfit yet. Too bad it did not last.]]

A single picture of Chris posing as a male prostitute was posted on Escorts.com. It is significant because it implies that Chris can dress like a normal human being if he wants to remain inconspicuous.

The black shirt and sunglasses he is wearing are never seen in any later pictures.
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==Chris's Tomgirl Fashion Sense==
===Early Tomgirl Fashion===
[[Image:TG19.jpg|thumb|He made himself into a [[sweetheart from the ground-up]].]]

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In [[April 2011]], a series of leaked pictures showed Chris dressed in women's clothing in public. This outfit consisted of:

* Bright green nail polish
* Earrings (a purple glass stud and a blue ring) - Note that piercing the right ear is traditionally code for [[Homos|homosexuality]]; guess which one Chris pierced twice?
* Women's sandals
* Blue eye shadow
* Jeans
* Blue string top
* Black thong
* A silver ring (Note that silver rings have been used to symbolize a pledge of [[F Abstinence|abstinence]] until [[Lovely Weather|marriage]])<ref>[[:File:TG6.jpg]] - Chris-Tran with his new silver ring</ref><ref>[http://www.silverringthing.com/ silverringthing.com]</ref>
* A red and blue sweater vest (tank top) with a red shirt underneath it
* Red lipstick
* A new pair of [[Pedo-Glasses|glasses]]
* A new head-band (as seen in the [[Facebook]] pictures)

[[File:TG10.jpg|thumb|left|Would you fuck me? [[It's not that cold|I'd fuck me]]. I'd fuck me HARD.]]

While not seen in the leaked images, Chris's posts in [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]] revealed he also donned skirts and panties as part of his new look.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20&p=162#p162 Re: Girly Things Tee Hee]</ref><ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=39&p=315#p315 Re: Mothers]</ref> In [[September 2011]], Chris was also photographed carrying a purse.

Chris was very happy with his new fashion choices, but friction with his parents made it difficult for him to wear makeup and women's clothing overtly. Sometimes he had to change after leaving the house or before returning (but he could always wear a bra and panties).<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 25]]</ref>

[[File:Chris_at_a_gay_bar.jpg|thumb|left|A hemline this high leaves little to the imagination.]]

===Late Tomgirl Fashion===
[[File:CWC1214.png|thumb|150px|Chris in December 2014.]]
Chris's tomgirl antics have continued into [[2015]], but with some refinements of his style in the past couple years. Although he has long since dispensed with the clownish polo shirts and jeans, many characteristics of his tomgirl wardrobe are remarkably consistent with the way he dressed when he still wore men's clothing, especially in terms of color coordination and clothing size. He also remains committed to buying all his clothes from thrift stores, giving him the appearance of a dumpy bag lady. He summarized his style in [[November 2014]] as "colored leggings, denim skirts mini to knee length, bold colored shirts and blouses."<ref>[[Commissions#The Flufflehugs Commissions]]</ref> Some of the most frequent themes in his feminine fashion choices are:

* Clashing, violently-opposed colors (particularly red with blue or green)
* Clothing far too small for him
* Dresses or skirts with very high hems
* Leggings, to help with tucking
* Sports bras
* Omission of glasses, possibly due to contact lenses
* Big, floppy, church-lady hats
* Eye makeup, applied poorly and usually purple or blue in color

A deviation from this style was seen in the video of the [[26 December 2014]] incident, where Chris is shown in purple [[My Little Pony]] shades, (probably as a [[Honor roll|disguise]]); a silver headband, showing off his ever-receding [[hair|hairline]]; his Manchester High sweatshirt; short jeans matched with long, purple socks and/or [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|another pair of pants]]; and boots (possibly Uggs).

The fact that Chris wore skirts and makeup for each of his court hearings in 2015, even those to which [[Barb]] accompanied him, suggests that he consistently dresses this way in public, and that his mother has come to grudgingly accept her son's transgender attire.

In 2015, Chris also started dying his hair blue, but predictably failed to do it properly, and ended up dying it an ugly, seaweed green instead. Combined with his wardrobe that manages to somehow simultaneously resemble the attire of a [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|5 year old girl]] and a [[Barb|65 year old cat lady]], the resulting look has been sardonically referred to by Kiwis as "mermaid grandma".
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==Chris, on fashion==
In [[November 2016]], Chris [[November 2016 Facebook posts#Women should wear skirts|posted]] a commentary on women's fashion.

In it, Chris implored women to wear skirts with leggings instead of pants, saying to "view it from [[Attraction Sign|a pervert's perception]]: they eye downward and have Good view of the in-between, as well as easier access to picture it in their imaginations from there. With a dress or skirt concealing the area, it is actually More difficult for the perv, and, thus, more difficult to picture and imagine what is or isn't at the [[China|groin area]]."

He also requested men to consider wearing kilts - stressing to wear pants underneath, saying, "NOBODY is impressed with that [[Pickle|bulge]]; moreover it is Absolutely Offensive," which indicates that Chris has shifted from [[Brassieres For Males|obsessing over men's chests]] to obsessing over their crotches.

==Theory of fashion==
The clothes that Christian chooses seem almost like a costume for him, especially his infamous striped shirt. Given that he is autistic, observers speculate that he may have difficulty with identifying things visually, including himself. In [[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]], he alluded to having to take time to study his appearance in a mirror, possibly wearing the shirt in question. In any case, Chris seems to regard his clothing as an integral part of his identity in the same way that [[trolls]] do.

==Wardrobe==
Below is a gallery of most of Chris's wardrobe, prior to the Tomgirl Saga, along with links to the videos they appeared in:
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Image:Christshirt1.png|"The Classic" [[So Need a Cute Girl|1]] [[Harvey Birdman Commercial|2]] [[Pixelated PS3|3]] [[Christian Weston Chandler's FUTURE MESSAGE|4]] [[CWC is Angry|5]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 27th, 2008|6]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate January 18th, 2009|7]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate January 19th, 2009|8]] [[CWC's "It's All Coming Back To Me"|9]] [[SingStar Challenge Round 1|10]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate August 3rd, 2009|11]] [[SingStar_Challenge#Watch|12]] [[SingStar Challenge Round 1|13]] [[SingStar Challenge Round 4|14]] [[Show RESPECT to me, "C"CWC|15]] [[Sign Destruction Video|16]] [[CWC Personal Sonichu Presentation|17]]
Image:Christshirt4.png|"The Advice Dog" [[Captain's Log, Stardate September 24th, 2008|1]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate Columbus Day, 2008|2]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate January 6th, 2009|3]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate February 10th, 2009|4]] [[12 January 2010|5]] [[14 January 2010|6]] [[What's the Name, Christian Chandler, C H R I S C H A N|7]] [[15 January 2010|8]] [[U8C43P2A37A8 y U8C1N023V0L|9]]
Image:Christshirt3.png|"[[Liquid Chris|The Impostor]]" [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 9th, 2008|1]] [[Chop Chop Onion's Rap Showdown|2]]
Image:Christshirt5.png|"The Napoleon" [[Captain's Log, Stardate January 17th, 2009|1]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate March 4th, 2009|2]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate March 27th, 2009|3]] [[Challenge for Clyde II|4]] [[15 October 2009|5]] [[9 December 2009|6]] [[Asperchu is a Horrendous Joke|7]] [[22 January 2010|8]] [[I am Alive|9]] [[100 2269|10]] [[A Hike|11]]
Image:Christshirt6.png|"The Racing Stripe" [[I am STRAIGHT|1]] [[CWC with Bible - Leviticus|2]] [[Congrats, Jack Black|3]] [[ECV 00002|4]] [[100 2278|5]]
Image:Christshirt7.png| "The Power Ranger" [[Captain's Log, Stardate August 3rd, 2008|1]] [[CCWC's Final Warning to the Second CWC|2]] [[LOOK at the truth!|3]]
Image:Christshirt8.png| "The Dunwich Horror" [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 12th, 2009|1]] [[More for the crabs|2]] [[ECV 00081|3]] [[Bunny Hop|4]] [[11052009 Kacey, I Love You, and I Need You|5]] [[CWC address to Royal Board|6]] [[Address to Mao, the S.O.B.|7]] [[Apologies to Alec and Evan|8]]
Image:Christshirt10.png|"The Two-Face" [[Captain's Log, Stardate February 23rd, 2009|1]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate May 3rd, 2009|2]] [[Wigwam|3]] [[WeighIn|4]]
Image:Christshirt11a.png|"The Poké-Master" [[Captain's Log, Stardate August 6th, 2008|1]] [[CWC Music Video Holding Out For a Hero|2]]
Image:Christshirt12.png|"The Horizontal Horror" [[Captain's Log, Stardate February 8th, 2009|1]]
Image:Christshirt13a.png|"The Jerkop" [[Captain's Log, Stardate September 13th, 2008|1]] [[CWC Music Video Holding Out For a Hero|2]]
Image:Christshirt14.png|"The Greasy Flag" [[Captain's Log, Stardate February 6th, 2009|1]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 9th, 2009|2]] [[I am devoted to My Sweetest Ivy|3]] [[Matthew 5 27, CWC Confessions|4]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 17th, 2009|5]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate May 22nd, 2009|6]] [[I Am The TRUE, Original Christopher Christian Weston Chandler; No Ifs, Ands or Buts|7]] [[9 October 2009|8]] [[Warning - Naughty Women ;)|9]] [[Old Time Rock and Roll on Shredwud|10]] [[Brutal Legend|11]] [[3 December 2009|12]]
Image:Christshirt18.png|"The Star Fleet Captain" [[CWC More Than A Feeling|1]]
Image:Christshirt17.png|"The Scuderia Autistirarri" [[Chris's Big Night Out|1]] [[10 September 2009|2]]
Image:Christshirt19.png|"The Flag-Waving Patriot" [[Chris Destroys His Vibrator|1]] [[A CWC Audition|2]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009|3]] [[CWC only accepts IN-PERSON FEMALE Encounters|4]] [[Challenge for Clyde|5]] [[Brutal Legend Plus|6]] [[For_Chris#IBA.27s_video|7]] [[IPods Down and Listen Up|8]] [[Hello, Juffalo|9]] [[9 February 2010|10]]
Image:Christshirt20.png|"The Captain Falcon" [[Down with Asperchu|1]] [[CWC Update 18 March 2009 More Updated|2]] [[F Abstinance|3]]
Image:Christshirt21.png|"The DangerStripe" [[Chris Sings Fart Song for Flora|1]] [[CWC is Sad|2]] [[Address to my CWCipedia SysOP|3]] [[This was my fault|4]] [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|5]]
Image:Christshirt22.png|"The Cyclone Joker" [[Captain's Log, Stardate January 21st, 2009|1]] [[CWC Callout for Miss Emily and Stephanie|2]] [[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!|3]] [[A message to the Trolls|4]] [[Don't Mess With Me|5]]
Image:ChrisShirt43.png|"The Swamp Monster" [[Captain's Log, Stardate December 20th, 2009|1]] [[I like Mary Poppins|2]] [[DayOut|3]] [[FullHouse|4]] [[100 2357.MOV|5]]
Image:Christshirt23.png|"The Traffic Light" [[Chris Chan's Public Announcement|1]] [[A Sonichu Day|2]] [[Shout out to Fans in Hospital|3]] [[To Clyde and Jack.MOV|4]] [[Kill De Jack|5]]
Image:ChristshirtPoke.png|"The Manchild" [[Chris dispels videogame rumors|1]] [[Magical Man Potion|2]] [[ItIsFinished.MOV|3]] [[Haters Gonna Hate.MOV|4]]
Image:Christshirt28.png|"The Rugby of Shame" [[Christian's Update 11 September 2008|1]]
Image:Parappashirt.png|"The [[PaRappa the Rapper|PaRappa]] Shirt" [[51 50|1]]
Image:Christshirt42.png|"The Statesmen" [[10252009 For Kacey|1]] [[To Clyde Gregg|2]] [[For Chris II|3]]
Image:sportsbra.png|"The [[Muscle bra|Muscle Bra]]" [[04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless|1]] [[100 2265|2]] [[ECV 00001|3]] [[Pregnant Act|4]]
Image:sportsbra2.png|"The Muscle Bra 2" [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV|1]] [[WelcometoBollywood|2]]
Image:Christshirt27.png|"The Dirty Dashiki" [[Captain's Log, Stardate August 8th, 2008|1]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate January 16th, 2009|2]] [[CWC to Mr. Miyamoto-san|3]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate March 4th, 2009|4]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate March 26th, 2009|5]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate March 27th, 2009|6]] [[Challenge for Clyde II|7]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 15th, 2009|8]] [[Asperchu is a Horrendous Joke|9]] [[Asperchu is a Horrendous Joke|10]] [[I am Alive|11]]
Image:Christshirt37.png|"The [[Homos|Mount and Do Me]]" [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV|1]]
Image:Christshirt25.png|"The [[Duck]]ie Shirt" [[Take that Page DOWN NOW!|1]] [[Secret Weapon|2]] [[YouTube Finale|3]] [[SingStar Challenge Round 5|4]]
Image:Christshirt26.png|"The Shamrock Shake" [[An Official Sonichu Update|1]] [[Sonichu Game Talk|2]] [[Bless the Fans, Curse the Trolls|3]]
Image:Christshirt29.png|"The Shamrock Stripes" [[Chris Sex Videos|1]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate July 7th, 2009|2]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate August 12th, 2009|3]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate August 13th, 2009|4]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate August 20th, 2009|5]] [[Clyde Cash the kid video|6]] [[Lars Is Jivin'.MP4|7]]
Image:Christshirt31.png|"The Burgundy Nightmare" [[Captain's Log, Stardate January 8th, 2009|1]]
Image:Christshirt32.png|"The Burgundy Nightmare Redux" [[Captain's Log, Stardate January 15th, 2009|1]] [[Chris Comes Out of the Closet|2]]
Image:Christshirt33.png|"The Bumblebee" [[Captain's Log, Stardate January 26th, 2009|1]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate February 18th, 2009|2]]
Image:Christshirt35.png|"The Intimidator" [[Chris Calls Clyde Out|1]] [[I Love You Kacey|2]] [[10242009|3]] [[29 January 2010|4]] [[C-Ya Later|5]] [[Cleveland Show Voice Rant|6]] [[Pregnant Act#The Remake|7]]
Image:Christshirt38.png|"The [[Rainbow]] Flag" [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes|1]]
Image:Christshirt30.png|"The Big Green" [[We're Being Watched|1]] [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|2]]
Image:Christshirt41.png|"The White Trash" [[Captain's Log, Stardate September 29th, 2009|1]] [[War Paint Video|2]] [[Some Favored Comedians|3]] [[Lars' Ship has Sunk.MOV|4]]
Image:Christshirt45.png|"The Happy Jack" [[CWC Dare|1]] [[June062010.MOV|2]] [[To Jackie, with Love.MOV|3]] [[XBox is OK.MOV|4]]
Image:Christshirt46.png|"The Bordeaux Butcher" [[Apology to Emily|1]]
Image:Christshirt40.png|"The Ivory Poacher" [[25 September 2009|1]]
Image:ManchesterSweaterFixed.png|"The Manly Chester" [[I Love You, Catherine|1]] [[26_December_2014#Video|2]]
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==Cross-dressing Boutique==
Chris has ditched the clown shirts, instead opting for an arguably worse wardrobe, see below:
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Image:The Clopper.PNG|"The Clopper" [[Paid Video Requests#Josh Lover of men|1]] [[Paid Video Requests#Copypasta: Sexual Helicopter|2]] [[Paid Video Requests#Happy Birthday, Nathan.|3]]
Image:White tomgirl with Heart design.png|"The Shattered Heart" [[Announcement 06292016|1]] [[Unicorns Rainbows and a Bluebird of Happiness Chapter 3|2]] [[Rainbows Unicorns and a Bluebird of Happiness Chapter 4|3]] [[August 2016 Paid Video Requests#Singing "All of the Lights"|4]]
Image:imdoneadulting.png|"The Broken Brony" (bought for $23.99)<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/screenshot-www-facebook-com-2016-10-03-14-31-36-png.141291/</ref>
 [[The_Alpha_Trion/"Young_Warrior"_Challenge|1]]
Image:thepromoter.png|"The Promoter" [[Update_02/16/2016|1]]
Image:sonicrainboom.png|"The Sonic Rainboom" [[Holiday_Greetings_to_Karen_Riley|1]]
Image:thehappyhag.png|"The Happy Hag" [[Update_01/12/2016|1]] [[Apologies_for_offending_people|2]] [[Doxing_Jeff/Francine|3]] [[Eid,_Pmurt,_Eid|4]] [[Embargo_Update_12/2/2015|5]] [[HELP,_PLEASE!!!|7]] [[GameStop_is_UNFAIR_to_Everyone;_Not_Just_Me!|6]] [[Happy_Birthday,_Martin.|8]] [[Happy_Pokémon_Day.|9]] [[HelloLadyFans|10]] [[I%27m_sick;_we_need_money_donations;_no_video_requests_for_a_while|11]] [[I_Am_me;_He_is_not|12]] [[Jeff_is_Beyond_Denounced.|13]] [[Lesbian_Sleepover_Party_Announcement.|14]] [[Lesbian_Sleepover_Party_Announcement.|15]] [[Reading:_"A_Girl_Who_Brought_Down_the_World",_"And_Apparently_Survived_a_Housefire"|16]] [[September_2016_Paid_Video_Requests|17]] [[Thank_You_from_Christine_Chandler|18]] [[Twelve_New_and_Old_Things_of_Christmas|19]] [[Update,_1/22/2016,_and_new_items_for_Cwcville_Shopping.|20]] [[Update_01/12/2016|21]] [[Update_1/25/2016|22]] [[Yes,_it_still_has_been_I,_Christine_Weston_Chandler,_who_has_been_uploading_the_videos_personally.|23]]
Image:thedealmaker.png|"The Deal Maker" [[Proposition_to_Sega|1]] [[Announcement_04/16/2016|2]]

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{{Illustrations}}

==Other aspects of his Fashion sense==
===Wrist warmer===
[[Image:Wrist Warmer.jpg|thumb|Wrist warmer]]

{{quote|Yes, it is a part of my necklace; it's a "[[Wikipedia:Wilson Sporting Goods|Wilson]]" wrist-warmer I use to cover the discomfort of the number of Links back there.|Chris<ref>Email from Chris posted in old [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC]] thread 162</ref>{{PublicSource}}}}

Chris likely wears this article to counter [[Wikipedia:Sensory defensiveness|sensory defensiveness]], a condition common among autistics, in which a normally harmless sensation directly triggers a fight-or-flight reaction.

===Fanny pack===
[[Image:0226-ChristianWMrsSanford.jpg|thumb|left|Chris and [[Virginia Jeanine Sanford|Mrs. Sanford]].]]
[[Image:0565-CWCKellieGrads.jpg|thumb|Chris with [[Kellie Andes]]. Chris would have, for the first time in his life, looked like he dressed sharp, if it wasn't for the fanny pack. Note the award that Kellie is holding.]]

A fanny pack (known as a "bum bag" in the British Commonwealth) is a small fabric pouch secured with a zipper and worn by use of a strap around the hips or waist. Fanny packs reached the peak of their popularity in the late 1980s and early-to-mid 1990s, and have since been considered to be a fashion faux pas.<ref>http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/beauty/once-reviled-fanny-packs-get-a-high-fashion-makeover-and-an-even-higher-pricetag-2452640#photoViewer=1</ref> Naturally, Chris wore them throughout the 1990s and 2000s.

===Cosplaying===
{{main|Chris and cosplaying}}
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== Sources ==
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{{Chris and}}

Talk:Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis

2017-02-14T00:49:32Z

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== When will he give it up? ==

Considering these scam videos also all promise "WORKS FAST" in every video, how long before even someone as retarded and impatient and Chris will finally just give up and realize they're not working? Two weeks? A month? Or will he still be trying this 10 years from now, if he's still alive? I know thinking's never been his strong suit (HOW TO STOP SELF-SABOTAGING YOURSELF), but he even should catch on it's not doing anything after some time. I hope, at least.--[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 00:49, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Saga

2016-11-14T22:55:55Z

The World Is Yours: /* Just throwing it out there */ new section

Add the sagas that we have from the [[List of Videos]] page and describe the overarching storylines in each. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 14:09, 19 October 2009 (CEST)
*The current saga should be called the "Revalation" saga. --[[User:14recinez|14recinez]] 15:30, 14 September 2013 (EST)
* Add information involving the Ebay stuff to the Facebook Saga section. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
* Add the 2014 sagas to the Sagas timeline. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
==Changes==
So basically what I tried to do so far is sum up every saga in 3 images. Is this at all helpful? I can upload colour versions instead if we prefer, but I thought this looked kind of good. I can also put all of them together to make a MEGASAGA sort of image that we can add to as more sagas become apparent. What do we want? Or delete them if you think they are gay. If they are not gay, then I will finish the rest tomorrow. ALSO: I can make a vertically oriented timeline (like from a history book) showing how they progress and overlap. Or horizontally, whatever we want really. Just tell me. For now, I need to sleep. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:25, 24 October 2009 (CEST)

* I actually really like these. [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 03:38, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
:*I like them. Though I think that like, the subject of the saga should be in the center. Like, the Miyamoto saga, Reggie is in the middle when it really should be Miyamoto. If I may recommend one for Liquid, if there was a way to make it look like they're staring down each other, that'd be cool. Otherwise, nice work, I like the general idea. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:47, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
::*Your wish is my command. It is done. I think I got what you wanted for the Liquid saga too... Now what exactly? I can get started on a timeline. I guess I will work on making each subsection more introductory in the text too... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 20:49, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
::*So I have added some detail to give a bit more advanced insight on the sagas for this page. I hope it is helpful. Are there any other sagas that should be here? I assume not. What do we need to add to make this... complete... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:23, 25 October 2009 (CEST)

==Timeline==
[[Image:Timeline.png|right]]
So the timeline you see running here is one I made for this article. Problem, When I run it down the right side of the article it looks funny. At least I think it does. Try it. Should we put it there... or what? I will just work on the actual text of this article until we decide what to do about the imagery. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:33, 24 October 2009 (CEST)
*I haven't heard any opinions on this and they claimed to like it in IRC so I have it running down the right. Revert it if you like. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:41, 25 October 2009 (CET)
:*I like it a lot too. Having it up and down isn't orthodox but it's well suited for the media. Very nice job. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)
*I think it looks great, but I think the information is a bit wrong... the Megan Saga went on through the beginning of 2008 and into the ED and Adam Stackhouse affairs. Hell, there wouldn't be a Stackhouse Saga without Megan. Otherwise, it looks good.
----[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 06:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

==Gregg Mays saga==
Not sure if we should consider it part of Clyde Cash saga but we should consider a Gregg Mays saga to include all this Gregg Mays stuff. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)

==Jack Thaddeus Saga, anyone?==
Or does anyone think it's too early? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 03:42, 2 January 2010 (CET)
* I was about to suggest the same thing. With the [[Kill de Jack|recent]] [[To Clyde and Jack|videos]] aimed at him, the [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call|three]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 2|phone]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 3|calls]] and the CWCipedia ad shenanigans, not to mention [[It's UGH!|previous]] [[Chris humps his PS3|antics]], there seems to be enough material to warrant a new saga. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 05:17, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
** Don't forget about Asperchu in the future. Seeing how dedicated Alec is with it so far (and Jack just started advertising his wiki in CWCipedia), a Saga for that is inevitable! --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 05:32, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
*** And I think it has begun! --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 02:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
**** {{Asperchu}} [[Asperchu]] Saga. You like? --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 02:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
***** Very nice! Now how about Jack, anyone? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 02:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
***** Awesome job on the icon! --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 02:09, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
===Actually...===
Looking at recent edits, someone was adding a "Homosexual ad saga" to this page but it was reverted. While not a proper saga, I'd say it's a sort of mini saga and it's part of the Chris narrative, as it leads into Asperchu saga. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:49, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not sure I'd call the homosexual ads a saga by itself, but part of a CWCipedia saga? I'm certainly not part of the inner circle, but I imagine more hi-jinks involving the CWCipedia are in store. [[User:Chris fangs|Chris fangs]] 21:54, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
*I reverted it. It wasn't a proper saga, no. Even if it could be considered one, the information wasn't presented well enough. I first reverted the changes made to the timeline PNG[http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:Timeline.png], which also wasn't up to par. There could be a lead-in to the Asperchu Saga, sure, but I would vote no on calling it a saga. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
*I re-reverted because you're a huge faggot have a nice day [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]

*Actually, I changed my mind. If someone could make a better, more convincing presentation of it, go ahead. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:*I agree that the presentation on the timeline sucks, and the name "Homosexual ad saga" does as well. I think Chris fangs is onto something about it being called "CWCipedia saga" since in a way, the Mailbag is a way of trolling Chris and CWCipedia in general sorta inadvertently trolls Chris. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:20, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
::*Well, it seems I've angered someone. Not my intentions, to be sure. Anyway, CWCipedia Saga has a nice ring to it and it's relevant, since the Mailbag is certainly a repository of ongoing trolling. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:28, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
::*Champthom, I'll leave it to you to revert the timeline image/Saga page or not. I don't wish to get into a revert war over Chris Chan. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:34, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:::*I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that you're right but so is Nitrocore. The concept of a saga invoking CWCipedia, perhaps call it CWCipedia saga, is good or maybe Jack Thaddeus saga (though I'm aiming at the former) but you are correct in that the write up and the name at the time did kinda suck, and we still need to work on the timeline. For starters, we need to get in touch with the original creator of the timeline or maybe start from scratch. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:58, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
* Ha i win sucker, I actually like "Cwc saga" as well i was just adding stuff(unlike you) if you can combine it and possibly make it better with external links then I'm not bothered [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]
::::*I went with the CWCipedia idea. It's a rough draft, but you get the idea. Nitro, if there is a next time, try not to act like a child. Also, sign your discussion edits with the timestamp. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 00:37, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

==The CWCki Saga, anyone?==

I was going to start this, but decided otherwise unless objects to it, but what we got here is the start of a third saga - CWCki Saga. Chris knows about the CWCki and now he wants to take control of it. You think we should start gathering information on this?--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:19, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*Damn. It's barely 24 hrs in and we are already talking about a saga! I think it is a tad too early to talk about a saga. Outside of "The WallFlower Incident", we got mostly nothing. Let's wait a little to see where it will goes. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:*I agree. Luckily, we'll probably find out two days from now, when his ultimatum gets ignored to death. If nothing comes of it, then nothing comes of it. If he spazzes out and does something really stupid, like threatening legal action or starting an epic edit war, then yeah. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 05:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

==Vanessa Saga==

My old pet project, probably not long or significant enough, but some pretty good videos and logs came from that --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 07:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
*Vanessa saga is one of the unsung tales of the overarching CWC saga and it's sorry that it isn't currently reflected here. However, perhaps now in retrospect it seems more to be part of Ivy saga, though Vanessa saga had dynamic elements and whatnot. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

== more saga sum up images ==

we need a saga image for asperchu (not tito yet) and the cwikipedia saga--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 02:19, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Heres a quick one i made for the game place, just to throw out the idea, can't use it since it doesn't match the others
[[image:Picture_4.png]]

== Tito saga ==

'''In December 2009, Chris released a page from Sonichu 10, which revealed a girl named [[Lovely Weather]]. Many trolls were confused as to why Chris would create a fictional love interest when previous issues used real life girls. The confusion continued when Chris revealed he had a gal-pal during some of his Mailbags.'''

Is it just me or does this seem to suggest that "Lovely Weather" is connected to [[The Wallflower]]? If so, this text is incorrect as Chris didn't meet Wallflower until January at the latest. Srsly guys. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:50, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
* Okay, I'll admit - I wrote that bit when it seemed like there was a connection between Weather and Wallflower. I'll alter it so it won't seem that way.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 13:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

==IRL Saga?==

It might be too early for this, but if he keeps up these public creeper antics, methinks an "IRL Saga" would be appropriate. --[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 16:12, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
* I always thought it would be better to call everything that's happened since he "left" the Internet the "CWC Exile Saga". But, still, IRL Saga's just as good.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 16:24, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
**How about 'Reality Saga'? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:48, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
***If we're going to do that, we might as well include the Love Quest as a saga, since this sounds pretty much like a repeat of those events. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 17:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
**** I understand the reasoning behind that, though a good chunk of the Love Quest happened online within specific sagas. Personally, the only issue I would see with such a saga (CWC Exile is a great title) is that it overlaps with The GAMe PLACe and the last bit of Surfshack Tito.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 01:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
***** I think, in a technical level, we're between sagas. We just simply have to wait and see what damn fool thing he does next. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 02:06, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== Flipnote Hatena saga ==

Does it count as one yet? He's slowly cracking at the seams, and it could get worse. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 20:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
*It looks like it might form a saga as he goes along and breaks more Flipnote Waptena rules, so it's plausible. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 21:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
**Of course he's banned from uploading anything now. I think it was a bit short to count as a saga. A bit uneventful too, though that's just my thoughts on it. If everyone else thinks it could be considered it's own saga... Go for it.--[[User:Yoyoddd|Yoyoddd]] 10:07, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
***I look at this a bit like the Tito saga; very little actually was done to Chris, but it was his response to what happened that made it a saga. We have to wait and see how he reacts to the ban to see whether it's worthy or not. That's just my two cents though. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 10:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
****Maybe we should put "interim activities" as a separate category; nothing that fits the criteria for saga but still somewhat noteworthy. Chris being "off the internet" and on flipnote for a month could merit that. That way we could still fill out the periods between major sagas. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 14:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
*****Even if it doesn't count as a full-fledged "Saga" it was a pretty crazy two weeks. I'm not sure if he'll return to youtube as a result of his banning, but I'm sure he'll cap off the whole thing with an enraged complaint ''somewhere''.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 15:41, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

==PS3 Saga?==

Before somebody already points it out, I know that the few destruction videos he put up doesn't count as a saga. I'm wondering if we should make a saga for the activities that lead to it's destruction. There's a lot of juicy info I'd like to catalog, but I don't know if it's officially over yet or not (And i also don't want to disrupt any trolling plans that may still be in motion). --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 15:04, 17 September 2010 (PDT)

==Missing Sagas==
Why aren't the sagas caused by [[Vanessa_Saga|Joshua Martinez]] included on the saga list?
*1) please sign your posts (it's four ~ in a row) 2) the stuff from Joshua Martinez is really part of Ivy saga. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

==On Sagas==
This isn't picking on anything that's going on here, but I was thinking and I think the term "saga" gets abused - not so much on here, mind you, but elsewhere but I think it sometimes spills over to the CWCki.

What is a saga? Like the article says, it's an overarching story in the life and times of Chris. For instance, let's take Miyamoto saga, which, also as the article says, what really started the whole "saga" thing. You have Chris and "Miyamoto" talking to each other over several weeks, and there's conflict between the two, then there's Reggie who gets involved, and then there's all the videos inbetween. If you watch a video from the saga without the context the saga arch provides, you're missing out on a lot. They're all intertwined, the content that is, and that's what the saga theme is all about, taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.

So what does this mean? You calling Chris is not "You calling Chris saga." Chris dressing up as a woman is not "Tomgirl saga." Seeing Chris at the mall is not "Chris at the mall saga." Chris does stuff, it doesn't need to fit in part of a narrative. It's sorta a chapter in the overarching saga that is Chris's life, but not a saga in itself. Secondly, I don't think sagas are really made. I think people expect to troll Chris and want some place on this page, wanting their own "Gigantic Attention Whore saga." Pretty much every saga wasn't intended to be a saga, it's not like they planned this all out, it's just going with the flow and it happens to have narrative to it.

I had more but I forgot what else I was going to say. But hopefully this will make sense and serve as a guide to what is a saga and what isn't, so much as how it should be included on the page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

*Actually, while we're talking about sagas, I'd like to ask for a bit of clarification on how saga related articles are named. Recent sagas for instance are just documented in the article on the appropriate person. The article on the Ivy Saga is called [[Ivy]] and the article on the Liquid Saga is called [[Liquid Chris]]. But then there are articles which are literally called [[Miyamoto Saga]] or [[Vanessa Saga]], which are full of emails just dumped there incomprehensibly. And this is in spite of there actually being articles for [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] and [[Vanessa Hudgens]]. Don't get me wrong, I realize the need to keep the crap ton of emails separate from the main articles, but the naming convention is just odd. I'm not quite sure, but I'm willing to bet it's Clyde's fault. What is the official policy on naming saga articles? Should they all be named as "X" or as "X Saga"? And while we're on it, some sagas have a weird little template documenting all things related to them. Two I can name are [[:Template:BlancaSaga]] and [[:Template:MeganSaga]]. I don't think they're bad. They could use a little cleanup, but I do have a problem with the fact that some sagas have them and others don't. They could serve as a great way to sum up everything and point users in the direction of content relevant to each saga, but as it is right now, there's no consistency in which sagas have them. What should we do? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:29, 22 June 2011 (PDT)
:*Good points. In regards to the e-mails, I guess people consider the bulk of the saga the e-mails or IM chats behind them, but perhaps we could rename them to be "Miyamoto Saga e-mails" or "Vanessa Saga chats"? It's probably Clyde's fault, at least for the Miyamoto e-mails. As for the templates, they probably could use cleaning up and the reason why some do and some don't is because people haven't gotten around to doing them for other templates (which can be something you can work on, if you so please). Definitely, make templates for each saga, that'd be a great way to present information. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:46, 23 June 2011 (PDT)
::*Well if you think that's something for me to work on then I suppose I could have a go at it. It'd make a change from all the sonichu shit that I've been doing recently. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:41, 24 June 2011 (PDT)

== Individual Saga pages ==

I didn't know where to put this suggestion, so I'm putting it here. I was thinking we can give each Saga its own page. The pages would go into more detail about the saga, a summary of the events, and a listing of videos, emails, etc. in order by date. This serves to make a description about all events in the Saga from beginning to end, as there is none on the CWCki. The closest there is to it is the timeline with all of the years and months, but often times there are events irrelevant to the Saga and events in other Sagas happening. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 16:47, 2 January 2012 (PST)
* EDIT: I noticed there are articles called "Vanessa Saga" and more, but those aren't the type of formats I'm talking about. Those pages are only content dumps, but what I'm talking about is much more organized.
* I made a [[Tomgirl Saga]] page. If there's a problem with it, or if the page is a bad idea, speak now or I'll write pages for the other sagas. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 09:56, 3 January 2012 (PST)
*I still don't think that the whole Tomgirl thing is actually a saga, but I'll let other people debate that as that's mostly my opinion. The thing is, the articles about respective sagas tend to be in the page about the people involved. Like, most of the stuff with the Ivy saga is in the [[Ivy]] page, and the stuff about Liquid is on the [[Liquid Chris]] page. I see what you want to do and it does make sense but I think it might be redundant unless we totally rework these biographical articles so we're not saying the same stuff on two different pages.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:38, 4 January 2012 (PST)
**I think that the question of whether or not every Saga deserves its own individual page should be decided on a case by case basis rather then collectively. I think that starting the article on the Tomgirl Saga was a good idea, but having articles such "Jackie Saga", "Blanca Saga" or "Julie Saga" will be redundant in my opinion. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 06:44, 4 January 2012 (PST)
*** i agree, this page handles the simplified explanations and servers as a nice jumping off point. There is plenty blue here to get you started and if you need details about the saga then read the details linked in blue :)
* I was thinking this myself. Not every saga needs a seperate page but sagas which involved a lot of interaction in the form of Youtube videos between two parties would benefit from a seperate entry. I'm especially thinking of the Liquid Chris/CWCivil war ordeal. One page or a group of pages with the video interaction between the two in chronological order would be very useful. Maybe the Asperchu saga also? I was taking a break from Chris during that period and am still not too clear on the chronology of events. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 09:06, 15 July 2012 (PDT)

== Second Exile saga? ==

Chris hasn't done anything of note lately. His therapist may have banned him from the internet, and is most likely doing his service or playing video games. This may go on for a while, and might be considered a saga.--[[User:Germanicus|Germanicus]] 14:13, 8 October 2012 (PDT)

- I disagree. A time without content, I feel, shouldn't be considered a saga.--[[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] 13:01, 3 Feburary 2014

== Regarding the Catherine Saga ==

I'll put the section back once the Catherine drama goes further. Like Champthom said before that sagas are "taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.", I say wait and see until we can confirm it. Right now, it's still early to claim a new saga. Not to mention sagas are abused to death. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 14:33, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
*I'll just share some comments I made in the chat on the CWCki Forums on the matter. Like I've said, the saga really should just be a tool to provide a narrative to what happens with Chris in specific periods. We probably have what constitutes a saga now - Chris is active on Facebook, he apparently has a girlfriend, he's trying to make money off eBay and Kickstarter, he's claiming to be fully transgendered. I'm inclined to call this "Facebook saga" as I feel the characterization of this saga is Chris's interactions with people on Facebook. It's unusual as we mostly focus on people but I think in this case, it might make sense to focus on the medium and not so much the persons involved. I feel that "Catherine saga" at this point is too narrow - we just have a single video and we're not really sure she's the main impetus behind this revival. To me at least, it seems sorta a side note compared to bigger picture things like Chris finally trying to earn money through his art and embracing transgenderism.
:Ideally, we'd name this after the fact but it's helpful to have a label for us to refer to the events now. Most of the sagas were named after the fact or it was extremely obvious what to name it after - Chris was seeing Ivy, pretty much everything he did involved Ivy, so it made sense to call that the Ivy saga. But we're not really seeing the same thing here with Catherine. We're different from Wikipedia in the sense that you as the users have influence in determining what this is called. In a way, original research is acceptable here mostly because there's not really formal institutions that study autistic manchildren for a living. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 14:41, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
*I have added some details to the Catherine and Sonic sagas, but I think that you are right about combining the Facebook saga point. A good deal of information from Catherine is not really typical trolling, but further information on Chris's condition as a Tomgirl and his general repulsive self. It may be a good idea to combine the two into some sort of saga, rather than having two separate sections.[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 13:30, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

== Is there an "Ebay" Saga going on right now? ==

Considering all of the ebay stuff that has been going on for a while, like the situation with Mr. Smith, the Tribalism art, and such, should it be considered a saga? It's long enough to be considered as saga, but I'm wondering it there was enough content to validate it being called a saga. -Fredinno, Feb 3, 2014.

*I think it would be best to make a Facebook Saga, as Champthom suggested above. Maybe Catherine could also be mentioned here too? And his return to his art. [[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 21:13, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

*I disagree, but I'm beaten, 3 to 1. Oh well, I guess I'll combine those two together. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:01, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

== Tomgirl Saga vs Calling Out Saga ==

Should the Calling Out Saga be separated from the Tomgirl Saga? The two things, in my opinion, are very different from each other, and many people from the Cwcki Forums, including me, believe the two are different Sagas. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:14, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

*You are right, they are two different things, but I think the reason they have been put together is because it's part of Chris's Tomgirl phase. I don't really think Calling Out qualifies as a Saga in its own right, so, personally, I would argue against giving it its own section. I am assuming it was added to give a bit more volume to the Tomgirl Saga, but, now that we have more information on Chris's Tomgirl antics, we could replace Calling Out with something else.

*So, to link back to what we were talking about above, I guess maybe Catherine could go with Tomgirl - as Chris's first lesbian encounter. The eBay stuff could then go to a Facebook Saga because it marks a change in both Chris's personality, since he has become more withdrawn, and how he communicates, being far more paranoid and holding court only to a select few. Obviously, this withdrawal has also come about from Bob's death, and also why he is allegedly selling stuff on eBay because he claims to need the money more for him and Barb. So, here you can see a link between the change in Chris and ''why'' he has returned to making his artwork and selling stuff, but it also demonstrates a change in how trolling Chris has changed. Granted, he's still being trolled, but it's not as abrasive as it once was because it can only be done through eBay - again because Chris has cut off all contact.

*Anyway, if you see the links there that I'm thinking of, you'll understand why I want to merge the eBay Saga with Facebook, plus I don't really think enough happened for it to warrant a Saga in its own right, but I haven't seen the pages on the wiki to document it so I could be wrong on that point. Let me know how you see it and how you think Chris's recent shenanigans would be best documented. Once everyone has discussed it we will probably have a good idea of the most efficient way of categorizing his recent behavior into Sagas. Apologies for wall of text,[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 11:33, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

*Really, though I can agree with your statement that Ebay Saga should be merged with Facebook Saga, (since there were many miscellaneous Facebook posts important to Chrisdom and Christory, the two sometimes connect with each other via Chris, and the 'ebay saga' only contains 2 fiascos that were really funny). Catherine should probably be its own saga, in my opinion, due to that stuff being related directly to a new sweetheart, but I could understand why you want it to be included as a "Tomgirl Saga, Part 2" sort of thing. On the other hand, Calling Out really has a enough content in relation to it, to be a saga, but is too big simply to be left as not a part of any saga. Since it was cut short by Bob's death, it should be considered its own saga.

In summary, I believe we should merge Facebook and Ebay Sagas, maybe merge Tomgirl and Catherine, but decouple Calling out from Tomgirl. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 21:53, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

== The Boxing Day Saga ==

Should there be a separate saga for SONIC'S ARMS ARE NOT FREAKING BLUE!!!
I know that the saga is older than what I will now call the "Boxing Day GameStop Spritzing", but it has a nice, poetic ring to it.
--Troll-chan Sonichu, 05/03/2015

No, That's Sonic Boom Saga.
--Fredinno

== Should the Tom Girl Saga end? ==

Since Chris has stated on facebook that she is no longer a male she is a transwoman, and a female, should the Tom Girl Saga come to a close? .--[[User:Sinistersnare]] 14:13, 7 March 2015 (PDT)

== Is the Financhu Crisis worthy of a Saga? ==

chris has been begging for money for a while now, and with the mortgage of around $100,000 that barbara has to pay, i doubt it will end anytime soon.
should it be made its' own unique saga? --Kettleonwater 8th September 2016 10:46am

I think so. Chris may have begged in the past for sex and his PSN account, but I am seeing a pattern recently of him begging for money. The Financhu Crisis Saga -galxylax 13 September 2016 20:06 PST

== Just throwing it out there ==

I feel the next soon starting saga will almost undoubtedly be either The Trump Saga, or the Partyvan saga; since many have been reporting his archived death threats. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 22:55, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

JK Productions

2016-09-05T23:53:22Z

The World Is Yours: It's clearly based on Hard Gay, not the Village People

[[Image:JKReginald.png|thumb|200px|Reginald the anteel, in all his bizarre glory.]]

In August of [[2008]], [[Chris]] excitedly endorsed a new blog that was supposedly the official journal of '''JK Productions''', a company claiming to be developing ''[[Sonichu]]: The Game''. Juxtaposing 'screenshots' of absurdly basic in-game features with artwork that was far superior to the [[Sonichu (comic)|source material]] and annotated by a hyper commentary, the blog was nonetheless shrewd enough to convince some (including Chris) of its authenticity.

That was until September, when, on the basis of an alleged cease-and-desist order from [[Nintendo]] and Sega, [[pickle]]-happy pictures of character redesigns were premiered. Sonichu was replaced by 'Reginald' (also the name of Chris's [[Reginald Chandler|imaginary son]]), an upper class anteater/eel hybrid. Rosechu was similarly replaced by an 'anteel' - specifically, a Hard-Gay-inspired, boner-sporting anteel. Finally, Chris-Chan himself was replaced by a skankily dressed [[Tomgirl|female reimagining]] which he no doubt [[mass debating|fapped over]].

Shortly thereafter, JK Productions claimed to have broken ties with Chris altogether, in disgusted protest at the [[Sonichu 8|Spring Break Issue]];

[[Image:ChrissyChan.png|thumb|left|130px|]]

{{quote|He certainly has a point that we should encourage women's rights...to bear arms! It is advisable to keep this man a great distance from the nearest vagina.Do not be so down, for there is some good news too. You see, JKProductions has acquired the trademark for Sonichu, making him our official property! Christian Weston Chandler's "Sonichu" comics, should henceforth be recognized as an, *ahem*, poorly done fan-comic (laughs.)|JK Productions, being lulzy.}}

Chris was left to sheepishly admit to being trolled and return to harassing Nintendo executives.

==History==
[[Image:JKRosechu.png|thumb|left|150px|Rosechu's reimagined character had slight gay undertones]]

On [[2008#August|17 August 2008]], Chris updated his website that was previously dead for a year with a new entry echoing the demands of his latest video, in which he calls for all the Sonichu fans to storm Nintendo and Sega with requests that his character be given official merchandise. He also promises the finale to this season of Sonichu within 6 months, and a new series starting next year.

Normally this may seem a trivial update in the adventures of CWC. However, with this post he released a new blog dedicated to Sonichu: The Game (at http://sonichugame.blogspot.com, now deleted and not archived) made up of mostly "fan art", with a few of his own pictures accompanying updates to the game's progression.

[[Image:Jk controller.png|thumb|"Chris Spent over 9,000 hours in ms paint to provide us this diagram of a ps3 controller."{{cite}} ... "image courtesy of Christian Weston Chandler. Behold! The home entertainment controller, perfected."]]

On [[2008#September|5 September 2008]], '''the official Sonichu game blog''' revealed what many people had suspected: that it was the work of an elaborate troll. In a post claiming that SEGA and Nintendo had slapped 'production' with a cease and desist order, the resident blogger offered his redesigns of [[Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]]; an [[Reginald|upper class]] and a Hardgay impersonating anteater/eel hybrid respectively. That Chris would condone such radical alterations of his 100% totally original characters is enough to raise eyebrows, but a more-than-fleeting inspection of 'Reginald' - Sonichu's reimagining - shows that he is armed with that appendage Chris dreads most, i.e. a [[pickle]]. Oh, and Rosechu's equivalent has a beard and a boner, I suppose that's worth mentioning as well. A follow-up post was submitted on 6 September 2008, featuring a redesign of the big CWC himself. Chris is convinced that JKProductions was not a troll and continued to endorse their blog as the 'Official CWC Approved Sonichu Video Game Blog' on both his website and [[YouTube]] account until the demise of the former. He has never had the faintest idea as to what [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jk "JK" stood for.]

== Game art ==

<gallery>
Image:Hurrr1 color.jpg|"Here are some masterful drawings by our very own Artist and CSIII practitioner: Mike Sandy" ... "Sonichu, having beaten the snot out of a Jerkop, strikes a cool pose.."
Image:Japchu.jpg|"The conceptual profile of Sonichu. These are subject to alterations."
Image:Hurrr2 color.jpg|"Sonichu in the act of kicking a jerkop square in the face! Ouch."
Image:Hurrr4 color.jpg|"Sonichu is just too extreme for this angry jerkop."
Image:Hurrr3 color2.jpg|"Could this be? Sonichu is really zapping to the extreme!"
Image:Jerkhieg.png|"Of course, the Sonichu game will feature bosses of many shapes and sizes. Allow me to introduce you to one of them." ... "This is the [[Jerkhief|jerkop]], he is quite large, no? He dislikes virgins, as well as Sonichu. He will attack them both on sight."
Image:Sonichugameee.png|"Ah, very large indeed. He is very lazy too! Instead of fighting, he sends his [[jerkop]] minions to do his dirty work."
Image:Jerkops.png|"Look out! The poor jerkhief is much to large to move on his own! Should you wear him down..."
Image:Ohgod.png|"Oh my... H-he really knows how to get around!"
Image:Title screen.png|"Most games for the PC feature title screens, and sonichu is no exception to this..."
</gallery>

[[Category:Not TRUE and ORIGINAL]]
[[Category:Trolls]]

Talk:Etsy

2016-07-05T18:58:13Z

The World Is Yours: /* Still uses it? = */

== Copy and paste Chris ==

Should it be mentioned how lazy Chris is here, merely copying and pasting his whole Ebay disclaimers, and only caring enough to replace "Ebay" with "Etsy", and nothing more?

Like the "All bidders are bound by Etsy's..." blahblah... Etsy is not a bidding site. It's strictly buy it now. This proves to me either two things, 1. Chris is lazy and stupid (obviously), or 2. He has no clue how the site works prior to registering.

I think it might be all of the above, actually. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 17:01, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

==Proposed Organization Reshuffle==
Chris has just added a shitload of more items to sell on Etsy, with more to come. The structure of this page, I think, should be similar to that of [[Ebay]], with a focus on the site itself, not the actual products. So instead of cluttering up this page with his lengthy, repetitious descriptions of the products, they should be moved to the pages for the products themselves--[[Medallions]], [[Commissions]], [[Amiibo]], and so on. The only thing I'm uncertain about where it goes is his donation request for Sonichu 11. The [[Sonichu 11]] page, I think, should be dedicated to the content of the comic itself, and is not the place for a discussion of his attempt to market it. [[User:Asperhes|Asperhes]] ([[User talk:Asperhes|talk]]) 11:34, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

== The Reviews, seriously? ==

Please tell me that the 38 reviews he's been left are all trolls.

I know that getting any feedback via online selling can be an impossible task, so please for the love of god can someone confirm or deny my suspicions.

[[User:CrazyKeith|CrazyKeith]] ([[User talk:CrazyKeith|talk]]) 01:50, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

== Still uses it? ==

I saw a mention in a newer article that Chris has relocated yet again, with strong implications that he has left Etsy as well.

The article makes no mention of it. If it's true, someone should add it, I think.--[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 18:58, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Etsy

2016-07-05T18:58:06Z

The World Is Yours:

== Copy and paste Chris ==

Should it be mentioned how lazy Chris is here, merely copying and pasting his whole Ebay disclaimers, and only caring enough to replace "Ebay" with "Etsy", and nothing more?

Like the "All bidders are bound by Etsy's..." blahblah... Etsy is not a bidding site. It's strictly buy it now. This proves to me either two things, 1. Chris is lazy and stupid (obviously), or 2. He has no clue how the site works prior to registering.

I think it might be all of the above, actually. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 17:01, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

==Proposed Organization Reshuffle==
Chris has just added a shitload of more items to sell on Etsy, with more to come. The structure of this page, I think, should be similar to that of [[Ebay]], with a focus on the site itself, not the actual products. So instead of cluttering up this page with his lengthy, repetitious descriptions of the products, they should be moved to the pages for the products themselves--[[Medallions]], [[Commissions]], [[Amiibo]], and so on. The only thing I'm uncertain about where it goes is his donation request for Sonichu 11. The [[Sonichu 11]] page, I think, should be dedicated to the content of the comic itself, and is not the place for a discussion of his attempt to market it. [[User:Asperhes|Asperhes]] ([[User talk:Asperhes|talk]]) 11:34, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

== The Reviews, seriously? ==

Please tell me that the 38 reviews he's been left are all trolls.

I know that getting any feedback via online selling can be an impossible task, so please for the love of god can someone confirm or deny my suspicions.

[[User:CrazyKeith|CrazyKeith]] ([[User talk:CrazyKeith|talk]]) 01:50, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

== Still uses it? ===

I saw a mention in a newer article that Chris has relocated yet again, with strong implications that he has left Etsy as well.

The article makes no mention of it. If it's true, someone should add it, I think.--[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 18:58, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

June 2016

2016-07-05T18:53:12Z

The World Is Yours: /* Events */

'''June 2016''' is a new month for [[Chris-chan]]. The month began with Chris’s sex-off competition with [[Johan]] coming to a close, with Johan emerging as the victor. Unfortunately, Chris's [[IMG 3207|entry]] for the competition was flagged for violating YouTube terms of service, but it was quickly re-uploaded. After losing his competition to Johan, Chris decided to close down his [[Etsy]] shop in favor of a page on [http://www.zazzle.com/ Zazzle]. Right after finding a different way to make money online, Chris decided to start an e-begging campaign, claiming that [[Lie|the money would be used for necessities, such as medication and bills,]] despite living in a room full of [[toys]]. Despite his scam for more toy money, he achieved his goal.

After multiple videos of Chris e-begging, he decided to revive his career as an [[Carlos Chantor|escort]]. As featured in a video leaked by a revived form of [[TheCWCvilleLibrary]], Chris offers to fuck [[Hypocrisy|non-transgender]] women for extremely high prices, giving his hooker name as "Stephanie Bustcakes." After that, Chris resurrected his search to find a caretaker for Barb, once again harassing [[Cole Smithey]] on [[Twitter]], and later making a similar [[Facebook]] post and even a drawing, believing that [[Autism|insulting someone would make that person want to help you]].

==Events==
*June 2nd - Chris's ent
*June 4th - Chris records a poorly made [[Happy Cat *kisses*|video]] of his [[cat]] Pollo.
*June 5th - Chris deletes his poll between him and Johan the Bully due to Johan winning.
*June 11th - Chris records [[Happy Birthday, Jonathan|a video]] congratulating Jonathan for his birthday.
*June 11th - on the same day, Chris makes a [[Cwcville Shopping is on Vacation|video]] explaining that he shut down his Etsy and announces a new Zazzle page.
*13th June - Chris makes plenty of rambles on Facebook.
*June 14th - Chris makes an urgent request for donations to pay for [[Barb]]'s asthma medication.
*14 June: Chris makes two videos for Barbara's asthma meds. Barbara seems eerily lifeless in one, and nearly dead in the other.
*17 June: Chris makes a 20 minute video in which he reads a story in a successful attempt to get Barb her asthma medication, only to then say he needs to pay the electric company $200 afterwards.
*19 June: Chris makes another video begging for donations , in a room literally filled with toys he can sell.
*20 June: Chris posts a status about Bob for Father's Day.
*22 June: Chris emerges in a leaked video courtesy of the CWCville library, the video is quite reminiscent of earlier times.
*29 June: Chris makes another video, you guessed it, begging for more money. He also apologizes for all [[JERKS|males]] while reading off another goddamn script. That same day, he makes another announcement stating that he has been "[[Lie|cured]]" of his [[autism]], all thanks to a fake video.

{{Timeline}}

Chris and death

2016-06-17T20:44:23Z

The World Is Yours: /* Barbara Chandler (1941-) */

[[Image:PattiLuv.jpg|thumb|Rest in peace...?]]
{{Quote|Sometimes I remember her, but I have moved on.|[[Chris]] on the late [[PandaHalo]].<ref>[[Regina e-mails]]</ref>}}

'''Death''' is a concept that Chris has a notably hard time understanding and/or coping with, be it the death of a [[Bob Chandler|human]] or an [[Patti Chandler|animal]], or even a [[Simonla Rosechu|fictional character]].

His poor reactions to death most likely come from Chris's lack of empathy (a common symptom of [[autism]]), and childish thought patterns. Children often don't understand death, usually just thinking it's "like sleeping forever" or "just leaving." Chris, being a child inside, can only resort to these clumsy analogies to understand death.

Here are the departed souls, in order from earliest to latest:

==Deaths==

===Various ancestors===
Chris claimed that, at Aunt Corrina's funeral, his ancestors wished him a safe [[Ohio trip|trip to Ohio]] to meet Julie.<ref>[[Jackie Chat 7]]</ref>

===Passengers of ''[[wikipedia:RMS Titanic|RMS Titanic]]'' (d. 1912)===
In 1912, famous passenger liner ''Titanic'' hit an iceberg on its maiden voyage from Southampton, England to New York, and resulted in the deaths of around 1,600 people. In [[Lars' Ship has Sunk.MOV]], Chris insensitively attempts to threaten [[Lars]] by destroying a [[Lego]] version of the Titanic.

===Every single victim of the World Trade Center attacks (d. 2001)===
Chris has a very juvenile understanding of the [[wikipedia:September 11 attacks|September 11, 2001 terror attacks]] and their effect on world history. In the [[Twin Falling Towers]] video of 1 [[November 2009]], Chris makes fun of [[Clyde Cash]] and says that he is as weak as the [[Wikipedia:World Trade Center|Twin Towers]], which were primary targets in the 9/11 attacks. He then pretends that the mouse cursor is crashing into the buildings, complete with sound effects. After heavy criticism for turning a tragedy which killed 3,000 people into a childish joke, Chris [[Apology for 9/11 Joke|apologized]] and insisted his patriotism. He also equated the death of [[Kacey]]'s grandmother, who is said to have died in the attacks, to his dead dog. For literally no reason at all, the date of the attack is included in a time-travel sequence in [[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]].

===Patti Chandler (1988-2006)===
Patti was Chris's pet dog, who died in June 2006. Chris apparently drew a picture of a crying [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] face on the signature confirming the euthanasia process.<ref>[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Eulogy_for_Patti&diff=4455&oldid=4454 Eulogy for Patti] on the [[CWCipedia]]</ref> As seen in the image used in this article, Patti also appeared in the [[Sonichu (comic)|comic]], immortalized as a furry character named [[Patti-Chan]]. This is particularly disturbing in that Chris has apparently decided to deny his dog the afterlife that he presumably believes in in favor of locking her in his own [[CWCville|personal hell]].

To Chris, her death is the greatest tragedy of his life, which he often compares to the deaths of other people's family members and loved ones. Unsurprisingly, every single person he has said this to has become horribly offended. In [[Chris's Plea to Clyde Cash]], he equates [[Ryan Cash]]'s death with Patti's, and in the [[Father Call]], he equates the death of [[Matthew Devoria]]'s mother in the 9/11 attacks.

Oddly enough, Patti may have been the only being Chris ever cared about. On the 1-year anniversary of her death, Chris even broke down in tears and had to be consoled by his mother.<ref>[[Megan emails, Jan-July 2007#Chris is sad about Patti]]</ref> By comparison, the "death" of any sweetheart will result in a few days of mourning at best.

It should be noted though that despite all of Chris's fondness for Patti, her memory was still not safe from being [[It's not that cold|defiled by him]].

===RocketFox's Dad (1966-2008)===
RocketFox's Dad used to be an [[alcohol]]ic, but recovered and stayed sober for ten years. However, his liver failed and he passed away in mid-October 2008. When RocketFox asked Chris for advice on how to cope, Chris considered it an "accident" and went on a spiel about how bad alcohol was.<ref>[[IRC (16 October 2008)]]</ref> This is actually the first death during the [[troll]]ing, and it was mentioned to Chris to see how he would react to such news, and as mentioned, Chris did so poorly. Ryan's death and Chris's reaction cemented this.

===[[Sarah Jackson]] (1981-2008)===
A former heartsweet of Chris (and Decepticon) who was killed in a carefully executed plan by [[Optimus Prime]]. Sarah Jackson, like Patti, was used in his comic for a while as "Ms. Jackaras" in [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]]. Unlike Patti, Ms. Jackaras gets the same fate as her non-comic counterpart, and is replaced by her sister, who continues the lesson anyway. None of the ''Sonichu'' characters mourn the loss of their professor.

===Ryan Cash (1996-2008)===
Ryan was Clyde's brother who was a huge fan of the ''Sonichu'' comics. After they were delayed over and over, Ryan fell into a depression and committed suicide. Chris, of course, [[Captain's Log, Stardate December 28th, 2008|reacted to this]] in an inconsiderate manner, telling Clyde and his family to "just move on", and marveling at his power to incite suicide. He also suggested that Clyde get a girlfriend who could make him just as happy as Ryan could have, which (disturbing implications aside) indicates that Chris seems to regard people as more or less fungible. This also helps explain why Chris seems to be able to move on so quickly when one of his online "heartsweets" meets some unfortunate demise.

===[[PandaHalo]] (d. 2009?)===
Despite her being hundreds of kilometers away from the [[Brushfire Video|brushfires]], Chris assumed PandaHalo was dead. She is actually alive and kicking but Chris still doesn't know this. Two days after her "death," he went to find another sweetheart to [[mass debate]] to, saying "It's OK though, at least I have a [[Julie|good woman]] who's willing to be by my side at this point."<ref>[[Mumble 7#Summary]]</ref>.

Nine months later, [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]] featured a special "memorial" to PandaHalo and a sequence in which she dies (off-screen) in a building fire after saving her "Pokemon", [[Chloe Rosechu]] and [[BlazeBob Sonichu]], so they wouldn't "burn with" her, not realizing that burning is an incredibly painful way to die.

More recently, Chris "dedicated" all of [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]] to PandaHalo's memory. This would be almost touching, if the alleged dedication didn't wholly consist of how awesome Chris was for using Panda's cover artwork.

===[[Sarah May]]===
After being called "[[Julie]]" multiple times, Sarah May attempted suicide over Mumble.<ref>[[Mumble 8]]</ref> Immediately after she went offline, rather than express any concern or try to find a way to stop her, Chris told Julie (who was also in the chat), "I still have you," with a completely emotionless "oh well" attitude. Julie was playing along with Chris, and did not react to Sarah's suicide attempt in any human-like fashion either; yet, it did not occur to Chris that Julie's behavior was ''in any way'' unnatural. Chris then made an [[CWC Shout Out to Sarah May|immature shout-out]] to her on a YouTube video, with tears faker than all his [[sweetheart]]s combined. The only reason he offered as to why she shouldn't commit suicide was that he would be sad without her.

===[[Aunt Corrina]] (1936-2009)===
Chris's aunt Corrina had her funeral on Chris's birthday, which was also [[wikipedia:Shrove Tuesday|Shrove Tuesday]], a Christian holiday that involves eating pancakes. Needless to say, Chris cared more about the pancakes than the funeral of his own aunt.

When the "I know how to be sad because my dog died" excuse fails, Chris usually follows up with an offhand mention of his Aunt Corrina. If that fails, the deaths of his many sweethearts tends to follow.

===Clyde Cash (1976-2009)===
In early [[2009]], Chris seemed to be aware that Clyde was supposedly dead, though he was suspicious of the idea. Regardless, he [[curse-ye-ha-me-ha|cursed]] [[Captain's Log, Stardate August 18th, 2009|him]], just in case.

===[[BILLY MAYS]] (1958-2009)===
In [[Captain's Log, Stardate July 1st, 2009]], Chris only seems to be upset over people blaming him for MAYS's death, and loudly denies that BILLY had ever been the mayor of CWCville. He doesn't even offer his condolences to MAYS's family. Down the line, Chris selfishly adopts the idea that MAYS was in fact his bodyguard and he died protecting Chris.

In ''Sonichu'' #9, Chris slaps in a one-page intro with BILLY saying that he was never was the Mayor, but was part of Chris's group. At the bottom was a message from Chris, asking him to "come back soon."

===[[Ivy]] (1992-2009)===
Ivy committed suicide after not being allowed to see Chris. Chris uploaded [[CWC "Boyfriend"]] as a memorial. Yes, a poorly-sung remake of Avril Lavigne's happy, bouncy pop-punk song, with lyrics changed to be about how much Chris would like women to date him. Chris included pictures of several past sweethearts in the video, making it less of a tribute to Ivy and more of a monument to Chris's failures.

Furthermore, as is unquestionably appropriate, Ivy's tragic demise was incorporated into issue #9. Rather than admit to having a hand in her suicide, Chris conjures up a magnificently gruesome accidental death, which involved having gotten her neck broken with elevator wires after falling through the elevator floor. Although this is a particularly troubling manipulation of what really happened, Chris more than makes up for it with gravitas; he gracefully, albeit belatedly, offers a tiny orange box in memory to Ivy 'O'Niel', taking pride of place underneath a backshot of [[Slaweel]] and some weird faux-[[Transformers]] actions. All of the above shows the leaps and bounds Chris has made in his appropriate handling of tragic deaths.

When confronted about this insanity in the [[Mailbag]], Chris got quite indignant, demanding to know what the questioner thought he should have done, since Ivy had died in real life and could no longer serve as Chris's [[GodJesus|God-given sweetheart]]. It's not clear whether it had ever crossed Chris's mind to keep this horrific death out of the pages of what is supposedly a comic aimed at children, or to let Ivy's character live on in CWCville like he had done for Patti and BILLY.

===[[Wikipedia:Mary Jo Kopechne|Mary Jo]] (d. 2009)===
In a [[Mailbag 27#Love and loss|mailbag]], Chris was asked by a [[Wikipedia:Ted Kennedy|troubled fan]] what he should do after the death of his beloved Mary Jo.

{{quote|Mary Jo is gone (I feel for you), but you should move on and try to find another woman who will treat you about as good, or possibly better than, her. Suck it up, and move on like a Man would. I tell you as a Man who had to do the same thing a few times in the past too.|Chris, being super-sensitive.}}

Chris clearly states how he believes a death should be approached by a man (which includes finding another woman right away and a specific lack of grieving), and tells the traumatized fan that he should simply move onto a better woman since his girlfriend's death, not only being completely asinine, but also outlining that he believes women to be [[women's rights|replaceable and possibly interchangeable]].
[[Image:RIP mike.JPG|thumb|The obituary that Chris didn't even bother to read.]]

===Mike Jackson (1969-2010)===

Throughout [[January 2010]], a man named Mike Jackson sent Chris a series of friendly letters asking for advice, and then begging for help after Chris's amazingly bad advice completely ruined his life. Chris, caring soul that he is, promised the absolute minimum amount of effort (a [[YouTube]] video) and then never made good on his word.

Distraught over Chris's total lack of action, and terrified at the risk of having his family torn to pieces, Mike [[Mailbag 52#This, if anything, requires a canned response|died from a sleeping pill overdose]]. Mike's grieving widow generously decided to let Chris view the private obituary page set up for friends and family of the deceased, saying that Mike would have wanted her to treat Chris with respect and decency.

Chris responded to the news of Mike's death with the same copy-pasted bullshit he used to pretend he was listening to criticism. The two infamous sentences made no sense in context and demonstrated beyond the shadow of a doubt that Chris could not care less about Mike's tragic death. It was revealed in [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 8]] that Chris didn't even view Mike's obituary page, and his [[Mailbag 56#In which Chris isn't sorry at all|response]] to Mike's grieving son was all of three words long.

===Simonla Rosechu===
[[Image:SandyRosechu.jpg|80px|right|thumb|The bastard child in question.]]
During the [[Asperchu]] saga, a recurring theme was [[Evan]]'s legal claims in regard to [[Simonla Rosechu]] as a derivative of his character, [[Simonchu]]. While early demands were for Chris to edit his old strips to remove Simonla entirely from continuity, later Evan consented to letting Chris keep Simonla's early appearances, on the grounds that he kill her at a later date. Chris, not surprisingly, totally lost his shit, showing a much stronger emotional attachment to an empty, one-dimensional fictional character than he has managed for any living creature other than his dog. Finally, after being faced with the threat of legal action, Chris finally killed Simonla in issue #10, though not before she laid an egg out of wedlock with her baby-daddy [[Wild Sonichu|Wild]] (though, of course, the act of laying the egg was never shown, or even mentioned), which hatched into [[Sandy Rosechu]].

Simonla's death apparently continued to haunt Chris long afterwards. This led to him [[Simonla Rosechu#Resurrection|reviving Simonla]] around [[May 2014]], more than four years after her demise. It should be noted that, as revealed in the [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Calls]], Chris considers cartoon characters to be real, living creatures that exist in some other world reminiscent of Toon Town from ''[[Wikipedia:Who Framed Roger Rabbit|Who Framed Roger Rabbit]]''. Simonla's death was as [[Chris and reality|real]] to him as that of any of his family members or sweethearts... perhaps even more so.

===[[Chandler Cats#Desi|Desi]] and [[Chandler Cats#Skittles|Skittles]] Chandler (precise date of deaths unknown; no later than 10 April 2010)===
In an email Chris sent to [[Jackie]], he [[Jackie E-mails#Chris is lazy, Hates simple chores|mentions having three cats]] (Lucy, Kitty and Scamper), despite the fact that he was previously known to have had two additional cats (Desi and Skittles). This suggests that by the time of the correspondence both had died, or had at least departed from [[14 Branchland Court]] in some other way. No documentation exists of Chris's reaction to their loss.

===[[Wikipedia:Murder of Yeardley Love|Yeardley Love]] (1987-2010)===
Yeardley Love was a lacrosse player for [[UVA]] who was murdered. Chris uploaded a [[05142010|video]] discussing the story (which he probably just saw on television for a few minutes), but didn't even bother to say her name. He also stated that the murderer should get 20 years in prison for the shock of the murder, which is twice his desired punishment for [[Tobacky|smoking]]. Later in the video, [[Chris and his Ego|he rerouted the subject towards himself]] and stated how everyone needed to be sympathetic of him and his autism and that he's not a bad man. In other words, he used the death of a girl he never knew in an attempt to make himself look good.

===[[Bob Chandler|Robert Franklin Chandler Jr.]] (1927-2011)===
After a long battle with heart failure, Bob's life came to an end while he was being hospitalized in the [[wikipedia:Martha Jefferson Hospital|Martha Jefferson Hospital]]'s ICU.<ref>http://web.archive.org/web/20130211071324/http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dailyprogress/obituary.aspx?n=robert-franklin-chandler&pid=153539600 (archive from 11 Feb 2013)</ref> The fact that on the day Bob died Chris posted an online [[attraction sign]] in the form of a [[Facebook#What I am looking for in a woman|Facebook note]] reflects poorly on him. However, he later told [[Jackie]] that ''"my heavier cries from my father's passing is really hitting me bad."'', and lamented that in a previous [[dream]] the Grim Reaper had promised that he would not claim Bob until 2015.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 31]]</ref>

In a March 31, 2012 Facebook message, Chris expressed a desire for Bob's ghost to haunt the dreams of anyone who doesn't like him, putting him on the exact same level as his dead dog. While this was an understandable reaction to discovering "plans" that trolls were going to dig her up, or discovering a webcomic that contained what he considered a mockery of her memory, his threat to send Bob's ghost after people is equal parts disrespectful and unreasonable.

In a [[Facebook]] post from [[June 2013|June]] of [[2013]], Chris laments that he had more freedom when his father was still alive, and goes onto complain about how he has to take time out of his day to [[Jerkop|"serve and protect"]] [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]]. Knowing Chris, this presumably means that he sat around in [[Chris's room|his room]] playing [[vidya]] while his elderly father did most of the [[chores|work around the house]].

===Victims of the November 2015 Paris terror attacks===
In wake of the shootings and bombings in Paris on the 13th of November 2015, Chris [[Chris's Response to the Terrorism Attacks in Paris|responded on Facebook]] and expressed remorse in his own simple way, but equated the real-life atrocity which killed over 120 people with the actions of a "cartoon villain", suggesting he still has a poor grasp of the difference between reality and fantasy. Included was the image of Sonichu and Rosechu in front of the American flag in [[Sonichu 9]].

===Barbara Chandler (1941-)===
Barbara, much like Bob before his death, has been experiencing many illnesses in the past few years. Barbara is [[obese]], and this contributes to her poor health, examples of which include oversleeping and bed sores. In [[August 2013]], Chris revealed that Barbara is now a breast cancer survivor, which reveals that she suffers from far more serious health problems than initially thought. It may not be long before Barb keels over as well, which would ultimately leave Chris with no coddling matriarch to provide support for or keep him company, and in the grander scheme of things, without parents.

Even today, where everyone's favorite manchild will go from there remains a mystery, especially since it was revealed in an [[October_2013_Facebook_Posts#Reality_Comes_Knocking|October 2013 Facebook post]] that Chris considers Barbara to be one of the few people who gives meaning and purpose to his life.

In November 2015, Chris released [[Family Needs to appreciate Family]], where he addressed [[Cole Smithey]], [[David Alan Chandler]], and [[Carol Suzanne Chandler]] to visit Barb before "Her time runs out".

In June 2016, Chris released [[Donations Requested, Please.|two]] [[Donations Required, Serious Please help|videos]] in which he asks for donations for Barb's asthma medication; here, Barb appears somewhat unresponsive and barely conscious, and Chris says she likely won't make it "through the rest of this month." While Chris could just be exaggerating just to get more free money, one cannot deny that Barb's physical appearance is the worst it's ever been, so his prognosis just might be accurate. Regardless, Chris shows flagrant indifference to her imminent demise.

===Chris himself (1982-)===
Given Chris's notoriously [[Christopher Paul Whitney reveal|bad diet]], lack of [[Chris and health|activity]], [[14 Branchland Court|hygiene]] or [[Chris and the Internet|social interaction]], on top of a complete lack of [[Love Quest|motivation]] or [[Chris and remorse|concern]] for anything other than himself, it is generally considered unlikely that Chris will live very far into his forties should he persist in his current lifestyle.

However, there is a likelihood that like Bob, who lived into his mid-eighties despite suffering from (and eventually passing away as a result of) [[Heart level|heart failure]] and alcoholism, he may be genetically disposed to lead a long, albeit miserable life. In comparison though, Chris's own death is naturally [[Chris and his Ego|the only one that immediately concerns him]], since it is the one thing that would put an end to the [[Love Quest]] once and for all.

{{quote|And Believe Me, IN DREAMS, and even IN MOMENTS within my mind while AWAKE, I HAVE SEEN AND FELT That Death Light. Not only is it the Most Horrifying Thing Ever, but I am [[Chris and English|LOOOONG NOT READY FOR IT YET]].|Chris, on his visions of death.}}

In a conversation with the CWCipedia Sysop, Chris once mentioned that he had been receiving recurring visions of himself walking into a bright light, which he one day hoped would be prevented from appearing by getting a sweetheart. However, judging by how unlikely it is that he will ever enter any meaningful relationship with someone within his obsessive standards and willing to put up with him and his numerous faults, these visions will most likely persist until the inevitable day it comes true.

In a Facebook post on 30 [[October 2013]], Chris stated that he had become so [[stress|stressed]] out (specifically, over [[October_2013_Facebook_Posts#Reality_Comes_Knocking|the revelation]] that his [[Manchester High School|high school]] [[gal pal|gal-pals]] did not actually like him much at all), that he had contemplated killing himself multiple times. According to Chris, the only reasons he did not go through with it are painfully [[Clover and Snoopy|obvious]]. This shows just how much Chris's [[Chris and psychology|mentality]] has drained, and how badly he needs the professional help he so stubbornly refuses to get. Of course, this could well be Chris exaggerating and trying to gain pity as he has done in the past, and as his mother allegedly also has (or at least, used to have) a habit of doing. In all seriousness, however, suicide is no laughing matter, and this should be looked at with caution.

In late [[2014]], Chris actually came quite close to being hospitalized, as a serious infection had developed around a [[Un-clit|piercing on the bottom of his]] [[duck]] that he had received earlier in the year. Thankfully, though, Chris came to his senses and permanently removed the piercing, and had the infection treated.

==See also==
*[[Autism]]
*[[White_knight#Chris_lacks_empathy_himself|Lack of empathy]]
*[[Death threats]]

==References==
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== End line ==

Did anyone catch the slip at the end of the video?

"Please have MY babies..." before he immediately corrects himself with "I mean, our babies".

This is classic Chris ego bullshit that I feel should be mentioned that, again, despite the fact that these women are essentially going to use him as genetic fodder and he will have no future contact with the child at all (probably the best thing anyone with Chris' genes can hope for), he still has to say that they're still HIS kids.

That fits perfectly with Chris, actually. You do all the work: having them, raising them, paying for them, but I take the credit and do all the fun stuff. Somehow I can imagine Chris constantly harassing them nonstop too, should it happen (God forbid), that they can't keep the kid away from him. Class. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 22:17, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
*Researcher here. Honestly, I believe Chris is going back to his pre-liquid chris self.

Yes we all know autists are egotistical, but you don't actually believe this is anything other than a troll right? Some brave soul milked him for a brand new love doll video. No one would actually procreate with Chris when they could just as easily hand any other person a hundred dollars and tell them to wank into a turkey baster.

The shit about the lesbian couple needs citation [[User:Res|Res]] ([[User talk:Res|talk]]) 14:07, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

When I wrote that all I had to go on was the video and the vague mention of the guy who challenged him. I'm thankful it was a troll setup from the start though; that no one would ever want Chris' genes for anything. What a relief.
Still, such blatant egotism in that scenario where he's being essentially used, thinking he's doing the using. That should be documented. The very essence that is Chris. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 14:38, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

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Mailbag 32

2016-05-31T22:04:29Z

The World Is Yours: I think this is warranted

'''Mailbag 32''' was uploaded to the [[CWCipedia]] on 4 [[January 2010]]. [[Chris]] began answering it in the very late hours of the 5th.

Highlights included Chris freaking out at someone pointing out that stealing jokes wholesale is kinda lame, freaking out at [[Alec Benson Leary]], freaking out about cousins marrying, and freaking out in general. It had been awhile since he'd gotten this excited over a mailbag; probably all the [[stress]] of [[Sonichu 10|eliminating his enemies in fiction]] was finally getting to him. He also exaggerated the sexual and violent content in things intended for children, and stated that he thought ''[[Wikipedia:Romeo and Juliet|Romeo and Juliet]]'' started its existence as a book and a movie.

==Answered==
===Chris to everybody who knows anything about him: F*** you===
{{Email|From: Jack Winne <J.Winne@gmail.com>

I noticed you've replied to a lot of emails referencing [[Wikipedia:The Bear That Wasn't|the Bear that wasn't]]. However the bear in the end chose for itself and acted like a bear despite everyone else labelling him, in the end they still all thought he was a man in a fur coat who needed a shave.

You'd have to accept that many people see you as a [[homos]]exual if you're taking the moral of the story. But in your case that's bad since women would also see you as such. The bear didn't need anything from the people labelling him but you probably aren't happy with women in particular labelling you as homosexual.}}
{{EmailReply|ONLY a couple of emails. After some thought after reading your message, my response to ALL THOSE INDIVIDUALS, male and female, who dare to continue to mislabel me as such is "F*** YOU." --[[User:ChrisChanSonichu|ChrisChanSonichu]] 05:57, 6 January 2010 (CET)}}

===Chris is no stranger to stupid name changes===
{{Email|From: Jack [[Wikipedia:Metalocalypse|Mustakrakish]] <[[Wikipedia:The Dethalbum|awakenawaken]]@aol.com>

I came across [[IT TOOK A TALKING BEAR TO GIVE THE NAME A YOUNG BOY LOVES|an article]] in the Richmond Times-Dispatch about your name change, and it mentioned that your parents were living separately from each other at the time. Are you aware of why they chose to live this way? My parents never lived apart for any length of time.}}
{{EmailReply|They lived separately for two reasons; one was to KEEP and maintain the Ruckersville house and the pets there, and because my mother had not yet retired from working at Virginia Power (which [[Christopher's name change|'''STUPIDLY''' changed their name]] to [[Wikipedia:Dominion Resources|Dominion Power]]). After she had retired while I was in 8th Grade, SHE moved to the Richmond Home and brought all the pets, including Patti, with her; I helped. Then we moved back completely after my Graduation from Manchester High in [[2000]]. They were still happily married, and before retirement from V.P., she came over for [[sex|visits]] on the Weekends every Weekend.}}

===You fail genetics forever===
{{Email|From: Reggie Morris <stiffness@corpse.com>

In [[Mailbag 27]], you said this:
"I believe a vaccine is most capable to change their mental status; my prescription has Definitely lowered my [[stress]] levels. I should know, I recently went ONE MONTH without it, and the stress LITERALLY ALMOST KILLED ME; it HURT WORSE in comparison to being on it; I went back on it, and I still take it with appreciation for it's good work on keeping me more capable on emotionally coping with stress. "

This is very interesting. Please elaborate.

You also said in the same mailbag:
"You Are Seriously Mistaken, and Your Theory IS PROVEN FALSE. To truly KILL the Gay Gene, the weakened Gene had to be made, but THEN the gene would need to be Replaced; otherwise, the injected person would become Asexual. The Straight Gene is put in the Vaccine to Replace the Gay Gene AFTER elimination to PREVENT Asexuality."

Please explain how this was proven to be, the procedures taken, and how genetics work. This is certainly unlike anything I've ever heard. It may even change biology as we know it.}}
{{EmailReply|Firstly, I would point out looking up "Paxil" or "[[Wikipedia:Paroxetine|Paroxitine]]" on the [[Wikipedia]] and reading the scientific details on how it has proven to Successfully Reduce Levels of Stress.

I admit that I am NOT an expert in genetics, but THINK ABOUT IT, if you imagine a DNA Strand, you Remove the ONE GENE that sets the orientation, it leaves the individual without appropriate guidance and attraction towards their opposite gender. So, the Absent Gene has to be replaced with its opposite; the SWITCH from the Gay Gene with the Straight Gene.}}
''Note: Paroxetine (Paxil) is not used to reduce stress, because stress is generally treated by lifestyle changes. Paxil is an [[CWC is sad|antidepressant]].''
===Chris knows what's best for your kids===
{{Email|From: George Pliskin <georgepliskin8@gmail.com>

Stop responding to some of the questions with "I'll deal with that when I cross that bridge". That just shows that you are not prepared for anything, please give a real answer it shows your fans respect. Don't just take it into consideration, actually do it.

Here's my question, why do you put sex in your comics that just seems pointless and immature, I thought this was a children's book with fantasy battles. What I've seen are disturbing things that children shouldn't learn until they are at least 15 years old. So could you please clean up the content of your series.

P.S. Quit avoiding questions with your "cross the bridge" phrase.}}
{{EmailReply|Well, this is one question that does not appropriately deserve that response. To answer it, EVEN IN FAIRY TALES, there ARE depictions of love and romance to full detail, even violence sometimes. Like, Romeo and Juilet; THE ORIGINAL BOOK and MOVIE depicts SEX between the couple. And what happens to the Queen in Snow White was not exactly pleasant either. And Little Red Riding Hood and Grandma GET EATEN by the WOLF, and the wolf GETS DISSECTED by the [[Bob|Lumberjack]]. Oh, Yeah, GUTS! Now THAT IS TV-Y Acceptable now isn't it? GET OVER YOURSELF. THE CHILDREN WILL BE SEEING SEX AT SOME POINT IN THEIR LIVES ANYWAY, YOU CAN NOT STOP IT. --[[User:ChrisChanSonichu|ChrisChanSonichu]] 05:57, 6 January 2010 (CET)}}
''Note that Romeo and Juliet originated as a [[Wikipedia:The Tragical History of Romeus and Juliet|poem]] and then a [[Wikipedia:Romeo and Juliet|play]], neither of which described or depicted sex.''

===Quit swearing so goddamn much===
{{Email|From: <scarfermezzo@gmail.com>

Dear Chris,

Why do you say "god damn" and other variations of the phrase? Do you understand that this is putting the Lord's name in vain. As a Christian, it'd be wise to try to avoid saying His name in vain (including things like "Oh My God", "I Swear to God", etc.). I know we aren't all perfect and sinless but it's not like you even try to stop or even repent. When reading through your Twitter and mailbags, I see you taking his name in vain. Again, and again. It's not too hard to do, so if you want to stop adding sins on top of your pile, this is one step to improvement.

From,

Scarf!}}
{{EmailReply|I will take that under consideration, and I do say my prayers and admit my sins and mistakes and get forgiven daily.}}

===For more information, see Lovely Weather===
{{Email|From: Jessica Lawler <jessica.marie.lawler@gmail.com>

Dear Christian,

I recently watched a BBC documentary entitled "Guys and Dolls". It explores the relationship that some men have with [[Wikipedia:RealDoll|Real Dolls]]. The men in the documentary are around your age and have trouble finding a [[Sweetheart]]. These men have decided that [[Virgin with rage|they will never find a companion]] and have settled for a life with Real Dolls. I saw a lot of behaviors in this video that reminded me of you and I would like your input. Would you ever consider a relationship with a Real Doll? I don't mean [[Kimmi]] either -- Real Dolls are more durable and less prone to Internal Damages.

You don't need to view the documentary to answer my question. I'd really just like to know what you think of Real Dolls and if you would consider them as a lifelong companion.
However here is the link in case you are curious. [http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/guys-and-dolls/]

Thanks in advance!

Jessica <3}}
{{EmailReply|NO. I will [[Waifu|NEVER EVER]] SETTLE for such a [[Megan|PRETEND]] [[The Wallflower|RELATIONSHIP]].}}

===In which Chris fails to notice that this guy just called him a retard===
{{Email|From: Steve Johnson <amazingaspie@gmail.com>

Hey Chris, I just wanted to say I can't believe so many people don't listen to you when you say Autism and Asperger's are completely different! As someone diagnosed with Asperger's, I agree with you 100%. Honestly, it offends me to be constantly compared to retards.

Anyway, I love your comics. They remind me of these comics my 5-year old nephew drew me, although his had better artwork.}}
{{EmailReply|Thank you for agreeing with me on my point of view.}}

===Lovecraft's got nothing on Chris===
{{Email|From: criticalmass82@aol.com

Hello Christian!

I hope you are well. Allow me to introduce myself, my name is [[Wikipedia:H. P. Lovecraft|Howard Phillips Lovecraft]], but my friends call me H.P. If you wish you may also call me H.P.

I have been a fan of yours for quite some time and it is evident that we share many similar interests and are roughly the same age so grew up with the same shows and toys.

As a fan I had a few questions for you, Christian Weston Chandler. Most of these will be simple YES or NO questions.

1.Have you ever considered going back to school to further your skills as an [[art]]ist for the comic and to give you more chances at social interaction thus giving you a better chance of finding a girlfriend?

2. Do you believe a straight male may find sexual pleasure through [[Sex toys|anal stimulation]], through use of fingers ot sex toys while masturbating or having sex, and still be 100% straight?

3. As a Christian, what do you think is the most terrible sin besides murder?

4. What do you believe is the most important thing about a man that attracts women to him?

5. Do you think looks matter in a relationship?

6. What is the first thing you notice about a girl? Be honest please.

7. Do you believe in ghosts or other supernatural beings, besides God and the Lord Jesus Christ that is?

8. What is your favorite car or truck?

9. If you ever got a tattoo what would it be and where?

10. Would you ever date a girl with tattoos?

11. If you had to live somewhere besides Virginia, where would you live?

12. If a gay man were to ever flirt with you, what would you do?

13. Do you like fudge?

14. Do you ever have [[Dreams|nightmares]]? If so, what are they about?

I think that is enough for now. Thanks for taking the time to answer our emails.

H.P.}}
{{EmailReply|1) For Social Interaction, it is a good idea, but I wouldn't want to just take a class that I would just throw all teachings of out of my head after passing it just for some Social Life. 2) AS LONG AS they have WOMEN in Mind and Heart when performing such stimuations, then yes they are still straight. 3) [[BlueSpike|Deception]]. 4) Good Looks, I expect. 5) On a minor percentage of the relationship, yes. 6) Her Face. 7) Yes, but I am not frightened of them. Although I may be surprised or shocked appropriately. 8) [[Transformers|Chevy Camaro]]. 9) I would never get a tattoo. But if I were to, I think I would get it on my upper back. 10) ONLY if she had one or two; NO MORE. 11) I am uncertain. 12) Inform that I am Straight, and if he continues, I would [[Chris and anger|PUNCH HIS LIGHTS OUTS!]] 13) ONLY the regular chocolate fudge. 14) Yes I sometimes have nightmares. I have had some where I have SEEN the FLASH OF DEATH from an appropriate cause, including drowning. --[[User:ChrisChanSonichu|ChrisChanSonichu]] 05:57, 6 January 2010 (CET)}}

==Rejected Mailbag==
===Yeah, she was===
{{Email|From: [[Wikipedia:Jane Austen|Jane Austen]] <littlemissausten@yahoo.com>

Chris,

I'm a long-time fan of the comic and find you a great role model for a writer dealing with adversity, being one myself, but one thing does concern me. In your recent [[Common Questions|FAQ section]], you mention how it is common practice to use ideas from other media when otherwise out of ideas. You then cite the [[South Park]] episode "[[Wikipedia:Simpsons Already Did It|Simpsons Did It]]" as a reference. That South Park episode featured unintentional copying of ideas by [[Wikipedia:Butter Stotch|Butters]] and could serve as a commentary to how difficult it is to come up with original ideas. However, you intentionally copy ideas from other shows. In fact, you go so far as to rip characters, plots, and characters wholesale from other works. This is at best lazy writing and at worst copyright infringement.. Just because you can get away with this practice does not make it ethical or encouraged. I find this very disappointing from an otherwise accomplished writer such as yourself. So, are you lazy, uncreative, a plagiarist, or some combination of all three? I'd appreciate more originality from you in the future, especially if you hope to be a role model for other young writers such as myself.
Thank You,
Jane}}
{{EmailReply|ARE YOU SO ORIGINAL, YOURSELF?}}

===Trolls are not known for giving a damn===
{{Email|From: Bob Bobson <totallyfine1@gmail.com>

"I have told those trolls that they are the scum of the earth,"

Newsflash: Trolls don't care about being insulted. Attempting to insult one is like trying to douse a wildfire with oil--it only makes them stronger.

"and that they give their kind of people,"

Trolls have always had a bad name and they enjoy having one, so again they don't care.

"specifically [[Clyde Cash|Clyde]] and [[Jack Thaddeus|Jack]] giving their Homosexual Male kind a worse name, in videos on YouTube and such."

Is this like the supposed "blackmail" you attempted when you grabbed a random gay sex image off of google images and claimed that it was Clyde? Because, I'm pretty sure he's heterosexual, what with raping [[PandaHalo|Panda]] and all. Jack I don't know about.

Or did Clyde just say that he supports gay rights and you jumped to conclusions and decided that he must be gay? Because, y'know, it's possible to be straight and still support gay rights. Just like how it's possible to like both Pokemon and Harry Potter, but you failed to understand even that.

Really Chris, I'm starting to think that the trolls are right about your lack of intelligence. I should let you know that I'm a very well respected fan and if I leave, I'll take a sizable chunk of the fanbase with me. Fans are money, and you'd better show your report cards and prove me wrong or else you'll lose out.}}

===Just kill Simonla already dammit===
{{Email|From: [[Evan|Evang7]] <evang7@gmail.com>
To Christopher Christian Ricardo Weston Chandler,

Thank you for finally getting back to me and giving me a GOOD reason
for why you won't remove [[Simonla]]. I understand why you have been so
reluctant to do this now!

However, the reason I trust you do kill her in the story is because
you can write from your experiences. You have had many Sweethearts who
have Tragically Died; you know the Pain and Heartbreak Wild would
suffer if something happened to Simonla. It is a Tragic, Real Life
Experience that happens to people Every Day. I think adding this to
your story would be an Interesting Twist should you spend an entire
chapter dedicated to Wild losing his Heartsweet and recovering with
the help of Sonichu and the Gang, and maybe finding new love?

However, if you can think of a GOOD, PERMANENT way to remove Simonla
without causing the Heart Break, PLEASE do it and PLEASE show it
actually happening in the comics; Usually when people die in Sonichu
or Leave Forever it happens Off-Screen; my lawyers want to SEE Simonla
leaving the story before they can Legally Accept it.

-Evan}}

==Parodies==
===Asperchu can't be a parody of Chris, because Asperchu's not a total <s>dick</s> fucking asshole===
{{Email|From: Alec-chan [[Asperchu|Asperchu]] <albasperchu@live.com>
Christian,

Thank you again for clearing up your words that I was wondering about! However, I am afraid that you Have indeed given me a blessing for the cartoon show, if with your actions but not only your words. You See, although it is clear you do not care for some of the lesser quibling aspects of ASPERCHU, you do recognize it as a fiery, flaming inspiration of Exquisite Art, which is the words what Mr. Tartica, an Executive Officer over at the Cartoon Network said - not my own words, but rather His. I do not mean to Anger you with this statement, but I felt you should see his words for Yourself, because it is important you know just How Much of a Great Weight you have given to my efforts to establish myself as an Up and Coming Artisan.

Now, with that out of the way, I have something of a Bone to pick with you, I must confess. In fact, I would go so far as to say that there are several levels to my concern, each of which deserves Coverage. FIRST: You say that ASPERCHU is a "Look-Alike Sonichu Character with a Look-Alike Sonichu Medallion". Now, I am JUST PLAINED OFFENDED at YOUR offense, Mr. Christian Weston Chandler! that you would call ASPERCHU a "look-alike" is appalling: FIRST of all, ASPERCHU has glasses, while SONICHU most certainly does NOT; it is a little-known fact that ASPERCHU has the astigmatism. SECONDLY, ASPERCHU, as you pointed out, wears clothes! First you say ASPERCHU is a parody of Sonichu, next you say he is a parody of you yourself with the shirt. Which is it, Mr. Chandler? ASPERCHU cannot parody both of you completely different beings and still be a parody. SECONDLY, you say that the previous letter, the picture contained within you submit here as evidence of your claim, was placed in your [[Rejected Mailbag#Parodies|parody page]]. But it is YOU YOURSELF who put that ASPERCHU image into your parody mailbag, not I. If it were up to me, you would have placed it into your ORIGINAL mailbag, as that is what it is (I do not even see that you even HAVE an original mailbag yet, what is up with that?). THIRDLY, you say that that image is full of the suggestions of [[Homos|homogayrotica]]. That is just plain and duly absurd! In that image, ASPERCHU and his joy-boy Sonichu are enjoying the Comfort and Camaraderie that comes when two Adult, Confident, STRAIGHT male friends are able to share their PLATONIC friendship with each other in a PLATONIC hug. NOTHING MORE. There is absolutely NOTHING of the homogay in that image. But just to prove ONCE AND FOR ALL that ASPERCHU is NOT the homogay, I have crafted and submitted a New image to depict to you: Tell me, if ASPERCHU were not STRAIGHT, would he be using AXE SHOWER GEL? No, I do not think he would.

I do thank you for clarifying what you mean concerning your opinions on the Aspergers and the Autism. I must say however, that as one afflicted with the Aspergers, it is my opinion that I do not have the qualification to make a determination personally. Because of this, I cannot say that you are not right or wrong that Aspergers and Autism are not linked. However, I must ask you this question: If it is in fact a True Fact that the Aspergers is not linked to the Autism, then how exactly is ASPERCHU a parody of Sonichu? Because apart from his major differences - the glasses, the clothes, the goatee, the stories, and Such - ASPERCHU has the ASPERGERS! He is even a part Aspergers-type pokemon (he is electric-type and Aspergers-type). He must therefore NOT be a parody of Sonichu, as I have been saying for the while. So please retract your statement that ASPERCHU is a parody of Sonichu, as the completely DIFFERENT mental conditionings PROVE that I came up with ASPERCHU all on my own.

Sincerely,

Alec Benson Leary}}
{{EmailReply|BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. Boy, ARE YOU [[Chris and hypocrisy|Self-Gloated, Self-Boasting and Self-Egotistical]]. Yep, you are indeed a literal classic by-the-book case BASTARD.}}
{{Mailbag}}

Talk:Proposition to Sega

2016-05-15T23:32:58Z

The World Is Yours: /* Piping = */

== Did Chris write this script? ==
I really have no clue if he did or not, but im leaning towards the latter, as it does not sound like his writing style.

== Piping ==

I know unncessary piping is frowned upon, but does anyone but me feel "assistant who does everything" should be linked to Allison Amber, or is it just me? You don't get a more perfect chance for it than that, I feel. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 23:32, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Proposition to Sega

2016-05-15T23:32:50Z

The World Is Yours:

== Did Chris write this script? ==
I really have no clue if he did or not, but im leaning towards the latter, as it does not sound like his writing style.

== Piping ===

I know unncessary piping is frowned upon, but does anyone but me feel "assistant who does everything" should be linked to Allison Amber, or is it just me? You don't get a more perfect chance for it than that, I feel. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 23:32, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Donation Request

2016-04-26T16:53:07Z

The World Is Yours:

I'm a bit concerned that a lot of cwcki users are not abiding by the rule of never using Chris' actual uploads to link, as he has a tendency to delete everything on a whim.

What has happened to mirroring? Then we can use those. I feel like we're playing with fire like this.--[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 21:02, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

:I agree, but last I read the mirror library was rebuilding amidst being shut down several times due to accusations of bullying. [[User:Canine|Canine]] may have an update on that. --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] ([[User talk:Holdek|talk]]) 21:35, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

:: I think it's fine to use his uploads so long as there is still a back up process still going on; that others are saving copies, whether they're uploaded yet or not. If he was to up and delete this video today, would anyone be able to replace it, for example? That should be the biggest concern.--[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 16:53, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Donation Request

2016-04-26T16:52:37Z

The World Is Yours:

I'm a bit concerned that a lot of cwcki users are not abiding by the rule of never using Chris' actual uploads to link, as he has a tendency to delete everything on a whim.

What has happened to mirroring? Then we can use those. I feel like we're playing with fire like this.--[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 21:02, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

:I agree, but last I read the mirror library was rebuilding amidst being shut down several times due to accusations of bullying. [[User:Canine|Canine]] may have an update on that. --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] ([[User talk:Holdek|talk]]) 21:35, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

:: I think it's fine to use his uploads so long as there is still a back up process still going on; that others have backups, whether they're uploaded yet or not. If he was to up and delete this video today, would anyone have a backup? That should be the biggest concern.

Talk:Donation Request

2016-04-26T16:52:16Z

The World Is Yours:

I'm a bit concerned that a lot of cwcki users are not abiding by the rule of never using Chris' actual uploads to link, as he has a tendency to delete everything on a whim.

What has happened to mirroring? Then we can use those. I feel like we're playing with fire like this.--[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 21:02, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

:I agree, but last I read the mirror library was rebuilding amidst being shut down several times due to accusations of bullying. [[User:Canine|Canine]] may have an update on that. --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] ([[User talk:Holdek|talk]]) 21:35, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

:: I think it's fine to use his uploads so long as there is still a mirroring going on; that others have backups, whether they're uploaded yet or not. If he was to up and delete this video today, would anyone have a backup? That should be the biggest concern.

Talk:Donation Request

2016-04-25T21:02:44Z

The World Is Yours: Linking?

CWC's Destiny start

2016-03-24T13:20:03Z

The World Is Yours: You know, this word is becoming a crutch to you people. Seriously. I just checked the video; it's not full of weens. It's full of other people that follow Chris, same as any of you.

'''CWC's Destiny start''' is a video [[Chris]] uploaded on March 23, 2016. The video showcases Chris's unimpressive FPS skills, and is shot in the style of a Let's Play which would be fine if Chris hadn't forgotten to turn his mic on. He uploaded it anyway, though.

This video is not unlike the [[Brutal Legend]] video from [[2009]]; that being, no audio from Chris's PlayStation Camera, but at least in this matter audio from the game exists.

In addition to forgetting to turn on his mic, Chris seems also to have forgotten to disable likes/dislikes and comments, resulting in the comment section being flooded with snarky remarks.

==Video==
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| stardate = 23 [[March 2016]]
| style = {{Reason|text}}
|subject= {{Video games|text}}
| shirt = lilac T-shirt
| previous = [[CWC`s Autism Tutorial with Director Commentary‎]]
| next =
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</center>

Britney Spears

2016-03-11T19:54:18Z

The World Is Yours: /* Britney and Chris's sexuality */

[[Image:BritneySpears.jpg|thumb|Britney's [[Officer Nasty]] costume.]]

{{Quote|I enjoy HER BODY and HER VOICE; She is among my Top 3 Women Celebrities who I Would Love To Fuck|Chris, believing that she's ''really'' happy to hear that...<ref>[[Vivian Gee E-mails, 2010]]</ref>}}

'''Britney Spears''' (born 2 December [[1981]]) is an [[American]] pop singer who originally reigned under the title of the Queen of Pop, and is [[Chris]]'s favorite [[music]] star.<ref>[[User:ChrisChanSonichu profile#More Information About Myself]]</ref> While one of the most famous and important singers in pop music, much like him, she has a tendency to make poor choices (such as appearing in [[Nudes|unflattering photos]]).

When playing a game of ''[[Pokémon]]'' with [[Lucas]], Chris sang along to Britney songs the entire time.<ref>Lucas in post 17272</ref>

After [[Sarah Nicole Hammer]] grew up and became hot, Chris labeled her a "spittin' image of Britney Spears,"<ref>[[Chris + Sarah's Life-Shares#Over the Years]]</ref> but only because she was blonde (since we all know how good Chris is with facial recognition).<ref>[[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]] - [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_7/Page_24 "...I had to train my brain to visually remember what I looked like..."]</ref>

==Britney and Chris's sexuality==
[[Image:Britneyspears-7130.jpg|thumb|left|And here, we see where he got the [[Lovely Weather|whale-tail idea]]...]]

It's unlikely that Chris is a fan of Spears solely because of her music. He uses her as a method of proving his heterosexuality, as seen in [[I am STRAIGHT]], where he proves to the trolls that he is straight by holding up a suggestive poster of Britney. On 10 June 2009, Chris once again relied on Britney Spears to prove his heterosexuality when he favorited several of her music videos on his [[YouTube]] account. His attempt backfired when the account was promptly hacked and filled with [[homos|gay]] propaganda videos. (It is unconfirmed if the account was really Chris's, but it probably was.)

The entire process of Chris using Britney to prove his straightness is ironic, as Britney Spears is a beloved icon among homosexuals; when [[Vivian Gee]] pointed this out [[Vivian Gee E-mails, 2010#2 January|in an e-mail on why others believe him to be gay]], Chris counterclaimed this by saying that "I enjoy [[Women's rights|HER BODY]] and HER VOICE."

==Britney and Chris's past==
Chris's obsession with Britney might also simply have to do with timing. While she hasn't had a truly successful hit since 2011's ''Femme Fatale'', she has maintained an overall successful career and was extremely popular in America between 1998 to 2011, near to when Chris came of age. He may be fond of her music simply for the nostalgia factor--it reminds him of a time when his life was much happier. His interest in her most likely started because all of his friends were girls and many teen girls at the time idolized Britney. This would give Chris the opportunity to be "[[Tomgirl Pictures|one of the girls]]."

==Christian Pays Tribute==
[[Image:CWCSchuBrit.jpg|For the record, Britney's marriage only lasted twelve hours.|thumb]]

* He sang along to Britney while playing ''[[Pokémon]]'' in [[The GAMe PLACe]].<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]]</ref>
* [[Christian and the Hedgehog Boys]] performed a cover of Britney's "[[Wikipedia:(You Drive Me) Crazy|(You Drive Me) Crazy]]" called "[[Feel So Lonesome]]", with the lyrics changed so that the song is [[Chris and his ego|all about him and his]] [[attraction sign]].
* Near the end of the [[Captain's Log, Stardate September 13th, 2008]] video, Chris's cellphone rings with a MIDI "(You Drive Me) Crazy" ringtone.
* When it came time to do Round 3 of the [[SingStar_Challenge_Round_3|''SingStar'' Challenge]], Chris chose to "sing" over "Autumn Goodbye", a B-side to the classic hit "[[Wikipedia:...Baby One More Time (song)|...Baby One More Time]]".
* He also played the deep cut "[[Wikipedia:Blackout (Britney Spears album)|Heaven on Earth]]" on his [[KCWC_Top_10_Dedication_Special#Part_6:_.233|second fake radio broadcast]].
* In his [[CWCRockin4Way.jpg|ultimate, irrefutable proof that he is STRAIGHT]], Chris put a portrait of Britney on the wall, labeled simply "Oops!" (in reference to "[[Wikipedia:Oops!... I Did It Again|Oops!... I Did It Again]]" and its [[wikipedia:Oops!... I Did It Again (album)|accompanying album]]).
* He bought the video game ''[[Wikipedia:Britney Spears products|Britney's Dance Beat]]'',<ref>[[List of Chris's games]]</ref> which is often considered to be among one of the worst ever made.
* He quoted Britney's debut hit when [[100 2270|impersonating]] [[Alec Benson Leary]], saying "Hey, baby, hit me one more time!"
* He shared Britney's video to her song "[[Things_Chris_Has_Ripped_Off#The_Smurfs|Ooh La La]]" on [[Facebook]] on 22 [[July 2013]].
* She is one of many people in a list of celebrities he'd like to [[Hanky-panky|party]] with in a Facebook list shared on 7 [[March 2015]].

==References==
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{{DEFAULTSORT:Spears, Britney}}
[[Category:People]]

Talk:Omar Woodley

2015-10-08T13:01:57Z

The World Is Yours:

I don't believe this page should have been made. One reference by Chris on Facebook is not enough justification. This was premature. If he doesn't come back to Olmar in the next few months, I'll advocate for this page's deletion. [[User:Asperhes|Asperhes]] ([[User talk:Asperhes|talk]]) 17:29, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

And I vote it stays. After reading it, it adds yet another layer of the irony flooding Chris' hatred of Sonic Boom. Amazing how he always lashes out on the absolutely wrong person. "Chloe" was also just mentioned about one time, yet she has an article. I just feel this adds something, so it's worth staying.--[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 13:01, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Etsy

2015-09-10T21:58:19Z

The World Is Yours:

{{Incomplete}}
[[File:Etsy profile.png|right|thumb|300px|Chris's Etsy profile.]]
'''Etsy''' is an online marketplace for handmade, vintage, and craft items and supplies. On 29 [[August 2015]], Chris created an account to sell his wares, ending a long and rocky tenure as an [[eBay]] seller.

==Announcement==

==The Shop==

Chris's Etsy shop, which opened for business on 2 September, was named "'''Cwcville Shopping'''," subheaded "Cwcville Shopping Center." The tagline was, "Christine Weston Chandler's Shop for Items and Creations Straight from the Creator of Sonichu, Rosechu, and the City of Cwcville, Va."

===Christine Chandler's Profile===

'''About'''

I am an all-around, good natured, high-functioning autistic, Female Lesbian Soul, and Transwoman, artist, gamer and creative type.

I am the Original Creator of Sonichu, Rosechu, and the city of Cwcville, VA.

I like making those close to me emotionally happy. :) And I feel happy about myself.

Lesbian TransWoman

Born on February 24

Joined August 29, 2015

'''Favorite Materials
'''

Crayola Model Magic Clay, Crayola Markers, Paper, Pen, Krazy Glue, Acrylic Paints, and other things

===Items===

====Recreated Sonichu Or Rosechu Medallions, Fresh And Direct From Original Creator====
{{Main|Medallions}}
{{quotebox|
$30.00

'''Overview'''

* Handmade item
* Materials: model magic, acrylic paint, krazy glue, metal ring, leather strap, pen, marker, crayola
* Made to order
* Ships worldwide from Ruckersville, Virginia

'''Item Details'''

Straight from the creator and artist, Christian Weston Chandler (myself), a Fresh molded, coloured and certified medallion of Sonichu, Rosechu, most any of the rest of the characters, or a custom of your choosing. It WILL be shipped in a sealed wrap marked "Fragile". My signature will be written on the backs if each medallion. A Personal Certificate of Authenticity will be included and a medallion will be attached to its back. NO LOCAL PICKUP AVAILABLE, at the Personal Risk of myself, the Original Creator and Artist.

<nowiki>**</nowiki>Disclaimer: When ordering a medallion, or more than one, please specify which you would like: Sonichu or Rosechu. A medallion of the other cannon main characters may be requested for your purchase. Your own fan Sonichu or Rosechu character(s) version may also be requested and suggested. Should I find the suggested outside character offensive, I shall inform you and accept another suggestion or default to the Prime Sonichu or Rosechu character(s) for your order; I am usually easy on accepting of custom requests at first. The rings inserted into the medallions are smaller than a typical keychain ring. And the necklace for them will be set-length blue leather straps, tied at the ring, for best fit around most head and neck sizes. The flower on the photographed Rosechu medallion is not included by default; if you would like a flower added onto your Rosechu medallion, you may request it in your message at the time of, or following, your purchase. Also, please allow up to two weeks for creation of each medallion, and should any delays come up, I will inform you via etsy Private Message Individually, or make a public post on my Facebook page. And Final individual molding creation may or will vary or differ from those in the above photographs.

<nowiki>**</nowiki>Take Heart and UNDERSTAND!!! There will NOT be ANY altercations made to the medallions AT ALL. The medallion(s) WILL be mailed via USPS First Class and Expedited with Delivery Confirmation and a Tracking Number and marked "Fragile; Handle With Care". I have NO obligation to make any personal appearances upon my own personal risk.

Everyone involved, including ALL Bidders, are bound by etsy's Terms and Regulations as stated therein, link below at bottom of this web page.

Discretion (As stated in the Comic Page image freshly added to the listing with few updates): ALL Sonichu, Rosechu, Cwcville and such material is Copyrighted March, 2000 by Christian Weston Chandler, with Full Paperwork backed up in Washington DC. Any names, persons or characters and such illustrated in the past Original Comic Book Pages, LittleBiGPlanet 1, 2, PSP and Vita Levels under the PSN ID of "Sonichu", and all direct content from the Creator, Christian Weston Chandler, NOT originating from said Creator that may seem similar to anyone past or present, as well as under other respective ownerships, are purely coincidental or otherwise parodic. Ownership of Original characters of Pikachu, Pok'emon and Sonic the Hedgehog are those of Nintendo and SEGA of America respectively. The drawing that is being sold on etsy now is an Original artwork created by the original Creator of Sonicu, Rosechu and the city of Cwcville, Christian Weston Chandler, and is solely being sold as an artwork.

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It should be noted that Etsy is not a bidding website, and is strictly a buy now market. Chris obviously copy and pasted his original Ebay spiel for Etsy, with only minor changes; that, or he literally doesn't even realize the fact. Neither of which are surprising.

====Autographed Photo of Christine/Christian Weston Chandler====
{{Main|Autographed Photos}}
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$20.00

'''Overview'''

* Handmade item
* Materials: photo paper, ink, permanent marker
* Made to order
* Ships worldwide from Ruckersville, Virginia
* Favorited by: 2 people

'''Item Details'''

Straight from the creator and artist, Christian Weston Chandler (myself), you may now have a more current headshot photograph of the artist, complete with his personal autograph and optional message. NO LOCAL PICKUP AVAILABLE, at the Personal Risk of myself, the Original Creator and Artist.

<nowiki>***</nowiki>NO Requests for photograph content will be accepted.

<nowiki>***</nowiki>ONLY optional messages to be written alongside the signature may be requested, as long as they are Not Offensive.

<nowiki>***</nowiki>Note: the featured sample photograph headshots are of myself personally; they will not necessarily be used for distribution of my autograph.

Everyone involved, including ALL Bidders, are bound by etsy's Terms and Regulations as stated therein, link below at bottom of this web page.

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====Black and White Commissions from the Original Creator of Sonichu and Rosechu====
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$30.00

'''Overview'''

* Handmade item
* Materials: paper, ink
* Made to order
* Ships worldwide from Ruckersville, Virginia

'''Item Details'''

Straight from the creator and artist, Christine/Christian Weston Chandler (myself), you may now request a Fresh full-colored hand-drawn and colored artwork with Non-Offensive subject matters directly. NO LOCAL PICKUP AVAILABLE, at the Personal Risk of myself, the Original Creator and Artist.

<nowiki>***</nowiki>Note: the artworks in the photos are Sample Pieces, previously commissioned to select others before September 2, 2015, and those particular pieces are Not available for individual sale, as the original pieces have already been shipped to their respective owners who paid in full as well.

<nowiki>****</nowiki>When purchasing, please state your Non-Offensive drawing request in the Message either beforehand, or during upon checkout in the message block via PayPal. Please properly checkout through this listing here on etsy. Do Not make your requests anywhere outside of etsy. I reserve the right to issue a refund should I feel the subject matter of the request to be offensive upon reading it. Thank you.

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====Colored Commissions from the Original Creator of Sonichu and Rosechu====

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$50.00

'''Overview'''

* Handmade item
* Materials: paper, ink, marker
* Made to order
* Ships worldwide from Ruckersville, Virginia
* Favorited by: 2 people

'''Item Details'''

Straight from the creator and artist, Christine/Christian Weston Chandler (myself), you may now request a Fresh full-colored hand-drawn and colored artwork with Non-Offensive subject matters directly. NO LOCAL PICKUP AVAILABLE, at the Personal Risk of myself, the Original Creator and Artist.

<nowiki>***</nowiki>Included in this set of The Works are Lamination of the piece for helping it last a lot longer, and a personal hand-written Certificate of Authenticity directly from me, the artist.

<nowiki>***</nowiki>Note: the artworks in the photos are Sample Pieces, previously commissioned to select others before today, June 30, 2014, and those particular pieces are Not available for individual sale, as the original pieces have already been shipped to their respective owners who paid in full as well.

<nowiki>****</nowiki>When purchasing, please state your Non-Offensive drawing request in the Message either beforehand, or during upon checkout in the message block via PayPal. Please properly checkout through this listing here on etsy. Do Not make your requests anywhere outside of etsy. I reserve the right to issue a refund should I feel the subject matter of the request to be offensive upon reading it. Thank you.

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====Donate towards New Comic Book Pages====
{{Main|Sonichu 11}}
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$10.00

'''Overview'''

* Handmade item
* Materials: paper, pen, marker
* Ships worldwide from Ruckersville, Virginia

'''Item Details'''

As a devoted fan to the Sonichu and Rosechu Comic Book Series, I am certain you do want to see More Pages since I ended up with Creator's Block and forced into Hiatus in 2011. Well, I, Christian, now Christine, Weston Chandler, am getting back into the drawing, writing and coloring recently, and working on a schedule that works around my projects as well. And then, I have my own typical stresses in Life and all.

And if you don't feel like buying a medallion, commission, or figure from me, I offer you a chance to donate towards my own peace of mind to further and better draw and create. $10 for One Full Written, Drawn and Colored Page in my current Book, makes a great difference and everyone wins.

And for each person who donates through here, I will draw and send a single Character Drawing as a sign of gratitude. Requests for drawing content are welcomed, but if no request is made, I shall draw a fresh drawing of Sonichu. **Limit One Drawing Per Person, Per Day.

Thank You for your help.

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After a few days he edited this description to include:

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All completed Past and NEW Pages will be uploaded and Publicly viewable on my Facebook Page, https://www.facebook.com/CwcvilleGuardian, in their respective photo albums. After getting enough funds, I will look further into Paper Self-Publishing and Printing of the books, and shortly after sell them on my shop here.

And for each person who donates through here, I will draw and send a single Character Drawing as a sign of gratitude. Requests for drawing content are welcomed, but if no request is made, I shall draw a fresh drawing of Sonichu. **Limit One Drawing Per Person, Per Day.

And, in the back of the book, I'll put your name there in a dedicated page. You reserve the right to request your name not be listed and remain anonymous.

EVERYONE who Donates gets a Character Drawing and a name in the book's back, each and respectively. But you get more if you Donate More. **ALL Character Drawings will be shipped within two days of Donation.

At the $50.00 Level, you'll get your choice of either a Sonichu Medallion (Or other optional variant or Custom; see Medallion Listing) Or an Autographed Photo of me. Allow up to two weeks for medallion creation.

$100.00 gets you your choice of one of the Sonichu or Rosechu Amiibo Figures, or one of the CWC Amiibo Figures (see their individual listings). Allow up to four weeks for Figure parts being acquired and assembly/creation.

$500.00 gets you a Sonichu Medallion (Or other optional variant or Custom; see Medallion Listing), one Sonichu or Rosechu Amiibo Figure of your choice, AND the three piece set of CWC Amiibo Figures (Pre-2011 Christian Weston Chandler, Chris Chan Sonichu, and Post-2011 Christine Weston Chandler). Allow a Month for Figure parts being acquired and assembly/creation, and you may request an Autographed Photo as well. Depending on the timing of Donation and Page Creation, your name may end up being written into the back(s) of the current book, as well as the following book.

$1,000 gets you the Complete Main Sonichu and Rosechu Amiibo Figure Wave 1 Set (Sonichu, Rosechu, Blake, Wild, Bubbles, Angelica, Punchy and Magi-Chan), the three-piece CWC Amiibo Figure Set (Pre-2011 Christian Weston Chandler, Chris Chan Sonichu, and Post-2011 Christine Weston Chandler), a Sonichu Medallion (Or other optional variant or Custom; see Medallion Listing), and you may request an Autographed Photo as well. Depending on the timing of Donation and Page Creation, your name may end up being written into the back(s) of the current book, as well as the following book, and maybe the one book after that. So, up to three books.

Thank You soo much for your help. Even the little donations help and go a very long way.}}

==See Also==
*[[eBay]]

==External Links==
*[https://www.etsy.com/shop/CwcvilleShopping?ref=l2-shopheader-name Chris's Etsy account]

[[Category:Websites]]

Talk:Etsy

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==Make a new Saga?==
Even though Chris has been less active over the less couple of years, he has recently (since early March) been giving infomation about what has been happening over the last couple of years. I think we should call this a new Saga "Revalation" Saga. [[User:14recinez|14recinez]] 3:40, 14 September 2013 (EST)

the new saga is the Black Sonichu DLC saga, i posted a link to chris chan's facebook post in the news page --[[User:Beanmachine91|Beanmachine91]] ([[User talk:Beanmachine91|talk]]) 01:02, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

==Note==
Flipnote Hatena will be shutting down May 31, 2013. Also chris 2013 article needs updating.

==Did you know..==
Some of the "Did you knows" sound really over-opinionated and A-loggy next to the A-log article of the now.

Ex. "...that Chris is a disgusting human being?", "That Chris cannot dance", I also have a personal gripe with, "...that Chris was born on 24 February, the same day the Nazi party was founded?", as it associates CWC with Nazis. [[User:Cleftpalete|Cleftpalete]] 10:18, 16 December 2012 (PST)

Did you know "Chris declared his birthday national Christian Love day? He thought this was better than Mexican Flag day which is on his birthday February 24"
[[User:MsAuntieMama|MsAuntieMama]] 10:16 May 2015 (EST)

==ohinternet==
Should we include a da update about ED and ohinternet considering their past relationship? [[Supersheep|Supersheep]] 23:38, 19 April 2011 (EST)

==Happy Sonichu Day!==

Is Sonichu 11 or 23? Also, is it possible to make the Sonichu page the now article? --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 21:33, 16 March 2011 (PDT)

==PSN Tracker==
I have Chris on my friends list on the PSTriple.
How would I go about contributing to the PSN tracker? [[User:Dillon627|Dillon627]] 06:30, 28 January 2011 (PST)

==Protect the templates==
Seeing how the main page itself is protected, why not protect the templates as well? [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 16:49, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
*There's already cascading protection for all the front page templates. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:51, 11 September 2010 (PDT)
*Stop freaking out about this spammer shit, Champ has it under control --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 16:53, 11 September 2010 (PDT)

== new vid ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzAJvMKQeJA&feature=player_embedded

can't add news so there you go--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 13:38, 16 September 2010 (PDT)

==Can this be the new Quote of the Now, please?==

{{quote|I've learned... from my father; he taught and showed me which male ends go into which female ends.|Wallflower E-mails.}}

[[User:Bunsteaks|Bunsteaks]] 13:28, 25 September 2010 (PDT)
I'm for this too.
[[User:Theiselybors|Theiselybros]] 02:10, 21 October 2010 (EST)

*Ironically, I vote this for today. --[[User:MissMeg|MissMeg]] 15:11, 10 September 2011 (PDT)

==I suggest this for the Video of the Now==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmFHPbaNT04 [[User:Xavier|Xavier]] 07:37, 28 September 2010 (PDT)

Since there's a white space in the Video of the Now (at least on my computer) why not feature this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoqjN3amRD4
--[[User:Vofdoom38|VofDoom38]] 17:44, 21 October 2010 (PDT) This link is dead

== Project Map Fucking Everything ==

Started up this project and got a lot of things mapped down.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ptab=2&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=116038930500742252038.0004949e055d81dc61c0b

I'd like to get all of the places he mentions/visits/films/rapes marked down on the map, but there's a lot of videos and some of them I never wish to see again. So, it's open collaboration and anyone with a Google account can edit it. Feel free to login and mark down different areas he's visited. Just try to be logical and succinct when adding locations. Don't need every McDonald's marked down. When doing videos of him travelling, try to figure out the path with a line and mark at least one end of it.

Now, a question:
Should we make a page for the full map or just link it in the bottom of the "Locations" divs on the other pages?
-- [[User:Arius|Arius]] 13:49, 9 November 2010 (PST)

*Put it on the locations template. -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 13:53, 9 November 2010 (PST)
**Done. Couldn't think of a better name than Chris's World. -- [[User:Arius|Arius]] 14:11, 9 November 2010 (PST)

== Sports ==

Is there any inclination that Chris is into any kind of sport or professional sports team? I asked this on the main page because I don't know where else to ask it.
*Sign your fucking posts god damn. Also, no. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 04:18, 14 November 2010 (PST)

== Slight Error ==
Chris hasn't gone 5 days without the internet, he logged into youtube 2 1/2 days after he posted the leaving video.
[[User:Theiselybors|Theiselybros]] 19:46, 26 November 2010 (EST)
:Probably should have discussed this before just removing the counter... [[User:Smtp|Smtp]] 17:02, 26 November 2010 (PST)
::It's a non-pedantic count. We're really focusing on how many days he's gone without making a video - which Chris equates to "being on the Internet". --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 21:30, 26 November 2010 (PST)
:::Yeah, why is the counter back? I don't know how to re-implement that sort of thing or I would. --[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 16:18, 17 December 2010 (PST)

== Vandalism? ==
Some guy named [[User:Trueandhonest]] has been going around vandalizing pages lately, claiming to be Chris-chan himself. Most likely it's a troll, but I just wanted to point that out. [[User:N. Onymous|N. Onymous]] 15:33, 30 November 2010 (PST)

== Does Christian Who Cares know this?==
I don't remember his surname. Does he know that the creator of Pokémon has [[aspergers]]? At least Wikipedia's article says so... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Tajiri --[[User:Doctor Whatever|Doctor Whatever]] 16:21, 4 December 2010 (PST)
* It seems that you just answered your own question. As to whether or not Chris knows, I honestly don't think he even cares. He justifies things when it allows him to continue his current lifestyle. He'd probably just say "Well I guess there are some exceptions" and move on. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 16:39, 4 December 2010 (PST)
** You're right, I should have figured that out. Theres an article about his hypocresy, but its not really necesary to read it; it takes about three seconds of reading this wiki to realize that he's the biggest of hypocrites...--[[User:Doctor Whatever|Doctor Whatever]] 17:46, 4 December 2010 (PST)

==CWCki is pretty dead==
Chris isn't coming back, at least not for a long time. Despite this, there are a shitton of new editors who drop by every other day and fuck up articles. The only reason I'm really still here is to fix up the edits of these new editors. I think we should start finding the good articles on the wiki and either lock them or put a template saying not to fuck with it a la ED. As articles get fixed up, they get locked down, at least until Chris comes back (if he ever does, anyway). I get that it might take some time or whatever, but it would help preserve the CWCki should Chris never come back or I die or something. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 12:11, 11 December 2010 (PST)
*Well it was just a matter of time until he would end up in a mental hospital. I always told him so, but whatever. I agree though, that there are probably many articles, that can be protected, especially all the videos, mails, phone calls, chatlogs and whatnot.--[[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 19:09, 12 December 2010 (PST)
::I'd push for the templating approach rather than protecting. Article protection should be used sparingly. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 05:00, 14 December 2010 (PST)
:::After seeing old articles being still corrected here and there, I tend to agree. Maybe this Chris-free time isn't so bad after all. Gives us time to look through all the old articles.--[[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 16:51, 14 December 2010 (PST)
::::You guys have gone from reporting the antics of a potential criminal to stalking a retard. Really it's pathetic. Do we need to know about uneventful sightings at the mall or his activity on PSN? That sounds like having less of a life than Chris does. Every lolcow eventually dies down and CWC is finished. This isn't like that point when everyone thought he was done for but came back, this is it.--[[User:Goatselover|Goatselover]] 18:05, 29 December 2010 (PST)
:::::Obviously you know something we don't. Go on, enlighten us. [[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 21:08, 29 December 2010 (PST)
:::::First, as Champ said pretty much RIGHT below this, this page is about improving the main page exclusively. Take it to Offshore CWCki. I think your targets are probably mostly there. As far as I'm aware, the people remaining here are dedicated to the wiki, rather than devoted to coming up with new ways to stalk Chris.
::::::It's not even about concerning ourselves with how next to foil Chris' Heart-Meter. This is about the chronicling
::::::and archiving of this entire man-child's existence for the benefit and hilarity of all future new-fags
::::::--[[User:Boosegumps|Boosegumps]] 03:40, 19 January 2011 (PST)

== Sightings ==

Okay, question, as a field agent who is seeming to have multiple run ins with Chris (was the guy who took the kroger pic and I commonly see him when he comes into my work) Where should I put my sightings so I am not cluttering up the other pages? [[User:CFA|CFA]]CFA
:1. Sign posts with 4 tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) if you want to avoid typing all that shit every time.
:2. [[User:CFA/Whateverthefuck]] is usually the best place to put your stuff.
:On another note, I appreciate that CFA is the name of the guy who took that pic, but that doesn't necessarily prove that it's you. Expect people to be critical of that statement. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 01:20, 16 December 2010 (PST)

*I did sign with 4 and I posted it up on the offshore first. Secondly, I asked because there is no article on sightings. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 10:38, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::Signing with 4 tildes yields a timestamp. Always. There was no timestamp. The point I was making was that yeah, the guy on offshore is called CFA. However, you just made your account here and there's nothing stopping someone other than offshore's CFA from taking the username. As a result of this, even if there were a "sightings" article, you still wouldn't be able to just dump new shit there because there's no confirmation that you are who you say you are. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 11:10, 16 December 2010 (PST)
*alright, then what would constituent proof for you guys? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 12:03, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::I'd say photos ^^ [[User:Sonichu|Sonichu]] 16:01, 16 December 2010 (PST)
:*photos of what? My page on offshore or something else? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 17:56, 16 December 2010 (PST)CFA
::Gee, I don't know, maybe ''the picture you originally uploaded to Offshore CWCki''? --[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 22:39, 16 December 2010 (PST)
::I think the best picture to upload would be proof that you can log into CFA's account on Offshore. If you have any new pics, those work too, but I don't expect you to have to do too much work for this. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 11:07, 17 December 2010 (PST)
*[[Image:CFA offshore.png|300px]] [[User:CFA|CFA]] 12:41, 17 December 2010 (PST)CFA

:*In the future, posts like this go in the Community Portal and not here. This discussion page strictly involves improving the main page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:33, 19 December 2010 (PST)
*My apologies [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:54, 19 December 2010 (PST)CFA

== Is This Chris? ==

He apparently stalked the shit out of liquid Chris therefore leading him to know his whereabouts along with his real name. So, he decided to post a video about it for some "troll busting".

Here's his channel:
[http://www.youtube.com/user/CarlosChantor]

- 06:33 (CST) January 6,2011

I doubt it. I mean, do you see him putting together such a coherent video and hacking someone's facebook. The only Chris-like thing about it is that they got the wrong one of the twins pegged as Liquid.....

ARIGOLD17 WHO CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO SIGN POSTS- 3:30 (EST) January 14, 2011

== ps3 tracker change ==

the ps3 tracker says jan.7.2010 when it should be jan.7.2011. just pointing that out. [[User:Carnival Vexillarius|Carnival Vexillarius]] 10:06, 8 January 2011 (PST)

== Shojo letters ==

[[File:Shoujobeatchrischanletter.jpg]]
[[File:Shoujobeatchrischanletterreply.jpg|Right]]
*Front page, y/n? [[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:18, 26 January 2011 (PST)CFA
<s>If it's legit I'd say front page material, I know Chris watches anime, but somehow I can't see him reading manga. I think he'd be too frustrated to figure out that you read it back to front. I think this might be a troll impersonating him</s> Never mind it says 23, so no one really knew about him, so it's probably legit.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 06:06, 1 March 2011 (PST)

== Potential Video of the Now? ==

Some pickle-related drama, brought to you by ''The Kids in the Hall''.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECAvZTcaQew

-- [[User:Elliecoral|Elliecoral]] 12:31 2 February 2011

*For future reference, this should go [[Template talk:Video of the now|here]]. The thing about the video is that Chris hasn't used the "pickle" euphemism, as far as I can tell, since 2008 or maybe early 2009. It's just a really out-of-date term. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 12:12, 2 February 2011 (PST)

== Not sure if it goes here but ==

*First, no pics (due to working at the time) but Chris came in with Rocky. But here is the thing, he was with a group of special needs folks around his age, seems Rocky has gotten him to socialize with other special needs folks, that or the strange girl he sat across from was friendly with him. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:30, 25 February 2011 (PST)CFA
:Get pics next time. No, really. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:32, 25 February 2011 (PST)
:Oh and also, this is the wrong place to do this. This is about improving the main page. Put it [[CWCki:General|here]] or something. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 19:38, 25 February 2011 (PST)
*Thanks and as for pics, it was out of the blue, did not expect to see him that day (he normally comes in on saturday between 3 and 4.)[[User:CFA|CFA]] 18:28, 27 February 2011 (PST)CFA

==Userboxes==
*Would anybody have a problem with organizing the userboxes, like Trollboxes category would contain Clyde's, Vivian's, Jack's ect. Description/identitiy boxes, like all the ones that say this user is a x, like the American, straight, hikikomori. Then like title boxes like admin, grammar nazi, ect. I could organize them, but it'd take me a while cause I'm busy during the week.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 13:11, 2 March 2011 (PST)

== da update should be first ==

ps3 tracker later, or maybe just merged. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 15:39, 2 March 2011 (PST)
:I spent a while messing around with it today trying to find a better way to organize it, but I couldn't figure out how to change whether something's on the right or left side of the page. I guess switching the two wouldn't be too difficult because they're in the same box. No complaints here. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 15:41, 2 March 2011 (PST)

Just rid of the ps3 tracker, it's not even no longer updated. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 04:41, 7 April 2011 (PDT)
:I found out how to do everything that I didn't understand, but [[User:Freecell/Main Page|what I did with it]] still looks bad. I agree that Da Update should go first (and the quote of the now shouldn't take up so much space and the News/Improvement Project should go higher), but I'm not sure it can be moved without making everything else look bad. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 04:48, 7 April 2011 (PDT)
*I personally would have Da Update be first but Clyde insists that the PSN Tracker is more important. Take your complaints to him.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:11, 20 April 2011 (PDT)

==Seriously==
*What the fuck happened yesterday? What was with the creepy girl? Why was everything 404'd, though some of the 404 pages were funny.
: Seems like the server was just down. I'm not an admin so I don't really know. But the creepy girl has always been what you see when you specifically go to cogsdev.org or sonichu.com[[User:Isarko|Isarko]] 05:51, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
*I was just trying to check this site yesterday and I saw that ''thing'' instead. I can upload a pic of it, but... Was it supposed to be Little Red Riding Hood or some shit? [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 09:26, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
:: I JUST tried and the weird Little Girls was there and then I re-loaded the page and it was fine... dunno. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 15:43, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
::: [http://www.sonichu.com/buletta.jpg picture] Based on the filename it's supposed to be [http://capcom.wikia.com/wiki/Baby_Bonnie_Hood Buletta/B.B.Hood] from Darkstalkers. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 16:27, 17 March 2011 (PDT)
:::: Y<s>eah any time I've tried to follow my bookmark link that is set up to cogsdev.org, which has ''always'' worked, mind you, it now takes me to the BB Hood image after trying to redirect to sonichu.com. In order to actually get to the site I have to google CWCKI and find a random page and then backtrack to the main page. Am I doing something horribly wrong somehow?</s> As of my having written this, it'a back to normal now. Weird. Disregard me I am a buffoon.--[[User:Bluedeanie|Bluedeanie]] 10:14, 18 March 2011 (PDT)

==Ha!==
Nice touch for April Fool's [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 07:50, 1 April 2011 (PDT)

[[Random-access humor|IT'S RAINING CHRIS! HALLELUJAH!]] Also, if I may ask, what's the code for this? [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 10:29, 1 April 2011 (PDT)
*note to self, listening to shpongle and watching the spinning heads here is seriously a bad idea! [[User:CFA|CFA]] 19:43, 1 April 2011 (PDT)CFA
*When are we gonna get these removed now? They were charming on April 1st but it's two days later now and they're getting kinda intrusive. [[User:Airrider1|Airrider1]] 15:35 EST
** I use [https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/cfhdojbkjhnklbpkdaibdccddilifddb?hl=en adblock plus]. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:39, 3 April 2011 (PDT)
*** [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/ And for Firefox...] --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 12:57, 5 April 2011 (PDT)

== You are now aware ==

[[image:Youarenowaware.jpg|800px]]

:It could almost imply that they somehow know one another! I'm more interested in the book to the left of it. Also, sign your posts. Also, this page is about improving the main page, as you've been told before. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 04:54, 7 April 2011 (PDT)

Well, I thought it was pretty surprising. All this time, that creepy little face was staring at me and I didn't even know it. The medallion and stare really make it a winner. Maybe bring it up in the Barbara page discussion. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 12:26, 7 April 2011 (PDT)
*Sorry,did that at like, 2 am. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 15:38, 7 April 2011

== Remove the PSN tracker ==

Srsly. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 05:58, 29 April 2011 (PDT)
*Or put it under the update section. [[User:CFA|CFA]] 20:41, 29 April 2011 (PDT)CFA

==TOMGIRL.PNG==
May I suggest a recoloring of the hair blonde? --[[User:MissMeg|MissMeg]] 09:31, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Liquid Chris Article ==
The whole "MOTHERLAND CALLS!" template has been up on the [[Liquid Chris]] page for a while, even before I became a member here. Has the article been fixed, or is it still in need of refurbishing? -- [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 22:09, 7 May 2011 (PDT)
:Why are you asking this here? Try [[Talk:Liquid Chris]]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 23:22, 7 May 2011 (PDT)
:: The reason I asked here was because nobody has added anything new the article since March (ignoring a recent edit-revert), and nobody has done anything with the talk page since last September. I was just wondering if this should be the Improvement Project of the Now if it's gone nowhere for a while. [[User:KingClark|KingClark]] 10:09, 10 May 2011 (PDT)

== An error in dating? ==

Today's "''This day in Christory''" features [[Chris Comes Out of the Closet|a video from February 5th, 2009]], but today is ''June 5th''. Is this intentional? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 10:37, 5 June 2011 (PDT)
*The video was from 5 Feb, but his CChanSonichu account was indeed hacked on 5 June. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 13:52, 5 June 2011 (PDT)

== Kim ==
Have we pulled a Wallflower on Kim? If not why doesn't she have a page, any information on her other than in passing, emails, phone calls, etc? [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 21:45, 6 June 2011 (PDT)

==Just for you==
I while ago I figured out the code for making youtube audio play in the background based on ED's code for it. I just forgot to share it with you. Its a nice touch for user pages, but I wouldn't recommend them for Cwcki articles.

ev:youtube|'''(The Stuff After watch?v=)'''&autoplay=1&loop=1&start=1" height="1" width="1" fposition="left" frame="false"

except add '''{{#''' at the beginning and '''}}''' at the end, and lose the '''(''' ''')''' parenthese

Sorry if its confusing, ask [[User:freecell|freecell]] if you need help, he or she uses it too.[[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 20:01, 12 July 2011 (PDT)

==No detective needed==
Okay, you don't have to be a fucking detective to tell that [[User:Youdonttellmewhattodo|Youdonttellmewhattodo]], [[User:Nothingyouneedknow|Nothingyouneedknow]], [[User:GodoftheGodsofgod|GodoftheGodsofgod]] are the same fucking person seeing as all three accounts were made four minutes between each and they've been posting stupid shit, complimenting Chris, and blanking pages. It's an idiot, troll, or hell possibly Chris. [[User:Theiselybros|Theiselybros]] 11:34, 19 July 2011 (PDT)
:I don't think they're the same people. And I checked for some of them, they're not Chris. I don't remember specifically though and I'm kind of too lazy to check again. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 08:53, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
::Ok, sat down and checked those three again. Not Chris. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 08:58, 20 July 2011 (PDT)

==New videos==
Chris just posted a couple of new videos and from the looks of it, relating to that forum that he's been posting on. --[[User:KHSilverRock|KHSilverRock]] 11:27, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
*Two more videos have gone up. --[[User:KHSilverRock|KHSilverRock]] 14:38, 9 August 2011 (PDT)
* I just posted the update but there still aren't any pages about the videos. I would but I'm really goddamn tired and I feel like shit. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 14:41, 9 August 2011 (PDT)
** It's cool, they'll get made eventually, and I can't wait, to be honest, I missed the shinagins that Chris provided in his videos. --[[User:KHSilverRock|KHSilverRock]] 14:49, 9 August 2011 (PDT)

== Earthquake ==

Think CWC was affected by the 5.9 earthquake in Virgina at 2PM?--[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 11:17, 23 August 2011 (PDT)
:If he was, I'm sure we'll be updated. Until then, there's no way we could know. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 11:21, 23 August 2011 (PDT)

:Unless a big box of Barb's Salvation Army finds crushed him.--[[User:Shefap|Shefap]] 12:27, 23 August 2011 (PDT)
:* There's a website [http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/dyfi/events/se/082311a/us/index.html] that will tell you where people in VA are saying they felt shaking. Around where Chris lives, there were reports of little-to-no shaking felt and no damage reported. He probably heard about the earthquake, but they probably felt nothing more than a vibration. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:05, 23 August 2011 (PDT)

== Article of the now. ==

shouldnt the Article of the now be Bob chandler? -[[User:HitIar|HitIar "wunderbar!"]] 12:50, 10 September 2011 (PDT)
:Indeed, I think Bob's bio should be article of the now until Chris uploads his next video. Then the article of the now should be changed into [[Chris and death]], as the most important thing about the next vid will be a demonstration of how Chris reacts (if he does react at all) to the death of a parent.
::Done, hope I did it right. -[[User:HitIar|HitIar "wunderbar!"]] 14:12, 10 September 2011 (PDT)
::*In the future, please refer discuss the Article of the now on its [[Talk:Article of the now|talk page]].

==Bob CWCki logo==
I found [[:File:BobCWCkiLogo.jpg|this gem]] we used ages ago for Bob's birthday, would it be in poor taste to post it in place of the current logo, for a while? Or perhaps someone could modify it to reflect his passing? I ask because I don't want to horribly offend people.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:50, 11 September 2011 (PDT)
*I second this, but not for too long. --[[User:MissMeg|Mary Lee Walsh | All hail the dean!]] 12:46, 25 September 2011 (PDT)
*It would have been appropriate for down time, maybe as a 404 message, but now that he's passed on, it is a bit distasteful. It would have been even more offensive if you planned to do this 5 days after his death. [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 16:46, 25 September 2011 (PDT)

== Chris' family tree. ==

We should expand on Chris family lineage, because Barbara's father died in an unusual way.

J.O. WESTON, OF RED OAK IS KILLED
Joseph Otto Weston, 58, a farmer, was killed late Friday when he apparently fell from his horse drawn wagon on a rural road near Red Oak Charlotte County.
Weston, of Red Oak, was hauling wood. Apparently he fell from the wagon and under a rear wheel.
His body was discovered after the driverless horse and wagon turned up at a nearby service station.
Dr. P.H. Winston, of Clarksville, medical examiner, said death was caused by a broken neck.
Surviving are his wife, Mrs. Carrie Winn Weston; five daughters, Mrs. Wilborne Bourne, of Richmond, and Mrs. Edward Carey and Misses Barbara Ann, Mabel and Harriet Weston, of Red Oak; three sons, William S. Weston, with the Navy at Norfolk, and DeRoy Lewis and Curtis Wayne Weston, of Red Oak; three brothers, Alfred Weston, of Chase City, and Daniel and Roy Weston, of Red Oak; one sister, Mrs. Mabel M. Blacklidge of Richmond, and one grandchild.
A funeral service was held at 1:30 p.m. Sunday at Antioch Baptist Church.
(Source: The Charlotte Gazette, Drakes Branch, VA, Thursday, April 14, 1955 Submitted by: Bea. Adams King)

http://genealogytrails.com/vir/charlotte/obits_w.html

This is the same Joesph Otto Weston that in mentioned in that Family tree.

== Edit-hiding ==

What's going on with all the edit-hiding? --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 10:49, 6 November 2011 (PST)
:I try to use the feature sparingly, but basically it's for the protection of users. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 10:52, 6 November 2011 (PST)

== Stop this ==

The article of now has had bob plastered on it for 2 months, it's getting old so I decided to put an underrated sonichu character onto it and don't whine to me about it being disrespectful to bob, fuck bob! --[[User:cj|cj]]
*Personally, I think Jiggliami can eat a dick. Anyways, if you really felt that we needed a new article, you could have done something that made sense like, oh I don't know, [[28 October 2011]], instead of a character that has no relevance to what is happening in Chris's life at the moment. It's not that you're being disrespectful, it's just that you need to act a little more professionally on this site, even if it is a wiki devoted to an autistic manchild. [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 10:31, 10 November 2011 (PST)

== what is this? ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt-gfkWu8Bc&feature=channel_video_title

Apparently this might be chris --[[User:The0range|The0range]]
*One, sign your comments. Two, this person claims they talked to a channel called "HuaYifu" and that this person was Chris. All you would have had to do is looked at HuaYifu's channel and you would have realized this wasn't Chris. This person has NOTHING uploaded on their channel that Chris would have done, never claims to be Chris, and never talks about Sonichu or Rosechu (which would have happened if it was Chris). This is NOT Chris. I'm not even sure how these messages came to be unless HuaYifu is trolling the owner of this video... or they both were in on it. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 20:47, 10 December 2011 (PST)

But why is the uploader of the video so convinced it's him though? It seem so obvious that it's not him that there might be more to it... --[[User:The0range|The0range]]

==Proper usage of words where time is concerned==

I have noticed that there are many pages that refer to "a recent video" or use similar assumptive language with regards to time. We should refrain from this type of language as the cwciki, and those pages, will be around long after the word "recent" fails to apply. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 11:35, 15 December 2011 (PST)
:I've said exactly the same thing. I change it when I see it, but it seems people take for granted that other people actually have to fix their shit. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 11:42, 15 December 2011 (PST)

== STOP FORCASTING ! ==

Ok i understand the desire to keep every page up to date but STOP FORCASTING! Do not enter anything into the wiki that WILL HAVE TO BE CHANGED at a later date. Don't put on barbs page that she has an upcoming court date, because that will have to be changed after that date happens. PLEASE dont make work for yourself and others.. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 10:47, 16 December 2011 (PST)
:Actually, I think that one's fine because it's an article that will inevitably have to be updated. The main issue arises on articles like videos, because post-fact people will be paying attention to other things. "Current" articles have to be rewritten all the time. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 10:52, 16 December 2011 (PST)
:Event forecasting is fine on a Wiki when further information is expected within a reasonable timeframe. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 11:35, 16 December 2011 (PST)
:: i understand that if its on an active page then its fine, but when the forcasting is put on other pages it becomes a correctin issue. Its much better to just link to the appropriate pages and not speculate. Let the active pages do the talking while the historic data stays historic. In other words October 28th 2011 is currently the central location for court info. other pages dont need specifics until we know what the outcome is.
[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 11:41, 16 December 2011 (PST)

== Current Events ==

There aren't ant current events on the current events page. '''So either we need to get rid of it''', or we need to put 'current events' in our 'current events' so we can have 'current events' when we read the 'current events' -xzibit [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 06:09, 4 January 2012 (PST)

== Am i the only one who thinks there should be a second 'da update' type thing for significantly less important shit? ==

I'm not saying I demand this to happen, but it seems like it would be more convenient than checking recent changes for something that might possibly be new information. --[[User:Reldnahc C|I am tomgirlmanbearpig]] 20:34, 29 January 2012 (PST)
: While that's an interesting idea... anything that's "new information" is usually in da update. Anything else is usually something small, not confirmed 100%, or almost insignificant. I suppose we could have something small...but it would be getting updated quite a bit. At the moment, I think "recent changes" is probably a lot like another, smaller, da update would be... --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:03, 29 January 2012 (PST)

== Birthday Suprise ==

Chris will be turning 30 this year and that is going to have an effect on the wiki. There are places where phrases like "Even now in his late twenties" are used. This type of language is going to become outdated. Words like "twenties" "20s" and specific ages as in "at 28 years old, Chris still lives at home" will all eventually have to be changed. CARE MUST BE TAKEN when writing about time. Remember EVERYTHING is past tense and you have to assume that the reader is reading the information 10 years from now. I have mentioned time before but the whole 'turning 30' thing needs to be addressed separately.
[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 08:00, 2 February 2012 (PST)
*here is an example "There is no earthly reason why (barring unrelated catastrophes) a man that is almost thirty years old and has autism should live at home with his parents, specially when his autism is as "high functioning" as Chris's activity and his documentation exemplify it to be." - This will need changing. [[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 08:16, 2 February 2012 (PST)
:[[Wikipedia:WP:SOFIXIT|So fix it]]. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 15:55, 2 February 2012 (PST)
:*Or as we like to say here on the CWCki, [[CWCki:DOITFAGGOT|DO IT FAGGOT]].--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:30, 3 February 2012 (PST)
::*i am fixing what i see, just wanted others to be aware.[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 11:22, 7 February 2012 (PST)

== Revised idea ==

Maybe there should be a {{Timeline}} below "da update" on the main page, that would be pretty handy.--[[User:Reldnahc C|I am tomgirlmanbearpig]] 12:16, 5 February 2012 (PST)

That sounds like a good idea to me. [[user:poppybrolll|-~Poppybrolll~-]] 9:23, 11 February 2012 (PST)
*Sounds like a good idea to me too... i would suggest letting someone higher up the chain add it though. We just dealt with some front page vandalism (that was kinda funny BTW) but i think its a great idea [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 08:04, 17 February 2012 (PST)

== This is what chris actually believes ==

I notice this phrase attached to pictures all over the wiki. Some of the pictures are references to Chris believing that he has some sort of chance to get laid. But many are just derogatory and rude. There are times that we KNOW what Chris believes because he tells us but many times the pictures are misleading or speculative. example: the pic on the page [[Caitlin]] is an assumption and has no basis in truth. There are many examples of picture captions being downright rude and defamatory. I think its clear that none of us can stand Chris, but we should be more careful about that coming out in the wiki. The facts please, just the facts...[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 10:45, 29 February 2012 (PST) oops

: I [[CWCki:Policy#De-memeing the CWCki|concur]]. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 05:43, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

== Another Quote of the Now Suggestion ==

Now that the details of Chris's trial has been posted, do you think his outburst about having to pay Michael Snyder's medical bills- "That thieving liar doesn't deserve a red cent!"- would be appropriate? Of course, I'm still kind of a newfag here, so ignore this if you want. I just found it amusing. [[User:Alopax|Alopax]] 02:40, 11 July 2012 (PDT)

== Suggested article: Persecution Complex ==

I think we definitely need an article about all the times Christian has claimed to suffer/endured harsh trials in his life. For example, equating pulling weeds once with a Marine carrying the dead body of his friend back, as seen in the Father Call. Said Father Call is chock full of instances of Chris claiming to have suffered to prove his worthiness, in fact. I also don't need to mention all the times he has brought up being handcuffed in school, having his attraction sign removed at college, and getting suspended at college, for that was always frequent. He also grossly exaggerated the actions of the trolls in every interaction with friends, obviously... Even in his first ever YouTube video, he makes sure to claim that he has had a rough life: "I was diagnosed with high-functional autism, and I lived a, uh, somewhat rough life. I've had an abusive babysitter at one time." --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 16:13, 17 August 2012 (PDT)

*: Seconded. Make sure to include the fact that he's got a legitimate reason so see his bullshit as more important than it is. Also there's a page for requesting articles. Now get to work, soldier. [[User:CaveJohnson|CaveJohnson]] 20:33, 17 August 2012 (PDT)

== Confused ==

So, what's the deal? Is this site just an ironic way of trolling him, or what? I heard this was dedicated towards supporting him from outside sources, but looking at the content, I'd say you'd either have to be trolling him using irony and sarcasm, or as stupid as Chris himself. {{unsigned|5thofjulay}}
: We're not for or against him, for most part. There's a bit of snark here and there, sure. We try to show Chris's stuff in his own words. Unfortunately for Chris, his material doesn't make him look very good. This site isn't really a troll site, just another way for Chris to troll himself. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 17:46, 9 November 2012 (PST)

== Forums Gone? ==

Should we mention on the main page that the forum has been deleted from the servers over at forumer? --[[User:Sparklemilhouse|Sparklemilhouse]] 15:41, 8 November 2012 (PST)
: Perhaps, if we can figure out what happened and what the following actions are. Last I checked, the forum staff was looking at their options. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 17:46, 9 November 2012 (PST)
: I wonder how much Our Pet Lolcow is chuckling to himself at the loss of our forums. Maybe he thinks we closed it ourselves to comply with his "apology post" on FaceBook; or maybe that one of his Curse-ya-meha-meha blasts actually worked.
:There's a temporary relief forum for the CWCki Forums: http://spergcityzone.forumer.com/index.php [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 22:51, 11 November 2012 (PST)

== Forums gone....again? ==

The most recent forums appear to be gone. Is everything okay, or was it closed due to some of the conflicts between certain users and mods/management? - [[User:I Be Bobby Boulders|I Be Bobby Boulders]] 10:52, 30 January 2013 (EST)
Can we make the forums ''not'' forumer this time? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 09:53, 30 January 2013 (PST)

Eagerly awaiting the forum's next incarnation. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 10:47, 30 January 2013 (PST)

Ditto. - [[User:Aiko-chan|Aiko-chan]] 15:31, 30 January 2013 (PST)
:We received a Chatzy screencap a while ago that proves that the people we banned planned to TOS the forum because nobody is allowed to have fun if they can't. Don't know if they actually were responsible, but that's the information we have. I didn't save the screencap, but I'm sure someone has it. I'm hoping that we'll have something substantial up within a couple days. We're just waiting on a couple email responses first. And it definitely won't be Forumer. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] ([[User talk:Freecell|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freecell|contribs]]) 17:10, 30 January 2013 (PST)

That was on the first day of the banning, and they settled down, so I doubt they did anything rash. Plus I've been talking to them almost every day, and they dropped it shortly after that day. The thing is that their forum was TOS'd at the same time ours was, so I'm assuming whoever did it reported both forums, and I highly doubt they'd TOS their own forum.--[[User:Someguywithnoname|Someguywithnoname]] 18:08, 30 January 2013 (PST)
:Yeah, this. There was some talk of going after champ's forum after the permaban of several people for trying to have something done about a crime committed by one of the mods, but it was dropped as a bad idea before leaving the brainstorming stage. Whoever TOSed either or both forums may have gotten the idea from such talk (and/or, more likely, simply from the predecessor forum having been TOSed before). [[User:SpergingAnarchistBagel|SpergingAnarchistBagel]] 12:14, 31 January 2013 (PST)

:They probably nuked both forums after they realized that A. They weren't going to be allowed back into the real one and B. Not very many people were going to defect to theirs. So they employed the Samson option. --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] 10:40, 31 January 2013 (PST)
::That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard lately. At least half to two-thirds of the regulars from spergcityzone had "defected" to spergcentral by the time it was TOSed (basically everyone except for those who didn't try to access either forum during the short interval between the TOSings). Why on earth would anyone involved in running spergcentral TOS their own forum when it was pretty much already established as the successor to spergcityzone? If I had to guess I would guess that punchabunch TOSed both forums to try to get them to blame each other for it, given that they went down within 24 hours of one another and given his enthusiastic talk of "forum war". But there isn't really any way of knowing. At any rate, there's probably some troll who wanted to fuck around with both forums. [[User:SpergingAnarchistBagel|SpergingAnarchistBagel]] 12:14, 31 January 2013 (PST)

:::[MOVED RESPONSE TO RELIEF FORUMS]--[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] 13:13, 31 January 2013 (PST)

I'm currently creating a new CWCki Forums which is not under forumer. I'll let you know if it's ready. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 18:42, 30 January 2013 (PST)

It's done! First time creating a forum, so give me some tips and suggestions about it. http://alanpardewcwc.forumms.net/ [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 21:01, 30 January 2013 (PST)

I just checked my email, and brooklyn sent an email to everyone who shared their email on the last board saying that the new permanent board should be up by this weekend/early next week. [[User:Aiko-chan|Aiko-chan]] 21:49, 30 January 2013 (PST)

Well, at least we'll have a backup forum in case something happens.[[User:Saney|Saney]] 21:53, 30 January 2013 (PST)

The permanent board is coming soon? Great. I'll update the link later when it is up. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 22:25, 30 January 2013 (PST)

== Photo of rental house ==

Surely the photo of the front of the rental house Charb are staying in should be the photo of the now. EXIF data stripped, of course. --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 02:28, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

* I'm working on it. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 10:05, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
:: Cheers! That house sure looks spooky. --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 11:44, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

== Lego Wishlist ==

Exactly how much is Chris' NEED list worth? What about his WANT list?
At the same time, he's selling items that should have sentimental value to him to pay the bills.
This def needs some looking in to!
--[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 05:07, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
* I decided to take this task on myself. Still weeding my way through ebay to find the lowest prices for each set, but suffice it to say, the tally is HIGH! --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 18:27, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
**The grand total for what Chris is begging for in Legos alone is ~$4800 --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 19:14, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

== QOTN ==

"The drawing that is being sold on eBay now is an Original artwork created by the original Creator of Christian Weston Chandler, and is solely being sold as an artwork with no original intent of profit."

**This needs to be on the front page because Chris is saying that his drawing he drew to sell online wasn't meant for profit.
These are disparaging statements. One cannot draw something with the intent of selling it and say they didn't intend any personal profit.
I'd put this on the forums, but null can't take jokes.--[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 20:03, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

*** The total list rounds out to just over to $4800 for the lego sets Chris wants. He no doubt deserves them... lol --[[User:Shutupman|Shutupman]] ([[User talk:Shutupman|talk]]) 22:17, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

*** Going to. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 14:23, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

== PSN Tracker ==

I feel like this is kinda taking up valuable real estate on the front page. Anyone opposed to removing it? I was pretty much against it from day one, it's been on the front page mostly to appease [[Clyde Cash|Clyde]] but he's long gone. Not sure what to do with the extra space. I'd say to post his most recent Facebook posts but well, recent events suggest that probably won't be happening. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 09:42, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

*I'm all for a section on Facebook posts, but, as you said, it's possible we'll be seeing a lot less of those. Either way, the PSN tracker needs to go. [[User:Boomhauer|Boomhauer]] ([[User talk:Boomhauer|talk]]) 10:41, 31 December

* I dunno. I always kinda liked it. A constant reminder of how much money he wastes. [[User:Sweet and Savoury|Sweet and Savoury]] ([[User talk:Sweet and Savoury|talk]]) 12:06, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

== refer Chris as a female with female pronouns =

==Article of the Now change?==

So since the article about the Gamestop incident is getting old, why not replace it with this recent page about the documentary for Chris Chan (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXjnakAlF-s)

== Many MediaFire Links are Broken ==

Hello, so all across the wiki are broken Mediafire links, and it's pretty bad. Is there any way that these links could be repaired by reuploading the appropriate files so that the public can download them? By the way, I've reuploaded a lot of Chris material on the Internet Archive (including two YouTube videos blocked off in the U.S.): https://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22christian+weston+chandler%22. I could upload the material (or you guys can) on to the Internet Archive, where they try to preserve anything that is digital. [[User:Letter Z|Letter Z]] ([[User talk:Letter Z|talk]]) 22:08, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

== New update, transgender ==

"...(s)he"

I have an issue with this. Hasn't it been decided we shouldn't cater to Chris' whims and call him what HE wishes to be called? It should be "he", indefinitely, I think.--[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 20:02, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Son-Chu

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[[File:Chrischanscar.jpg|thumb|When you see it, you'll ZAP TO THE EXTREME!]]

'''Son-Chu''' was a [[1994]] [[Wikipedia:Ford Escort (North America)|Ford Escort]] [[Wikipedia:Station wagon|station wagon]] that [[Chris]] drove until 2013, when he replaced it with a white [[wikipedia:Cadillac Seville|Cadillac Seville]], and then put ''that'' on [[Craigslist]]. It was the former car of and a hand-me-down from his mother [[Barb]].<ref name="Mumble 10">[[Mumble 10#Summary|Mumble 10]]</ref> As of [[September 2014]], Chris drives a [[wikipedia:Ford Focus|2010 Ford Focus sedan]].

While Chris, to put it mildly, obviously suffers from multiple "disconcerting" issues which are listed [[My Little Pony|elsewhere]] in this very wiki, the [[Wikipedia:Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles|Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles]] has nevertheless given him full permission to drive a motor vehicle which has been used to accidentally [[CWC's_Diary#June_2005|cause]] [[28_October_2011|personal injury]]. The DMV has yet to release an apology for this grievous lapse in judgment by their Ruckersville department.

Members of the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC]] believe that the fact that Chris drives a Ford Escort may be a universal symbol of romantic fail. Chris did not save up his [[tugboat]] for a vehicle, deciding he had more [[PSN|important]] [[Sex toys|things]] to spend his [[money]] on, despite the fact that sometimes a nice car can lead to getting [[china]] to [[PS3 Hump|screw]].

Unsurprisingly, Chris's parents pay for his gas.<ref name="Mumble 10"/>

==Backstory==
[[File:License.jpg|thumb|Much like James Bond, Chris also has a [[6 June 2010|license to kill]] (though through his ineptitude in operating a one-ton mobile weapon).]]

Since Chris is a huge fan of ''[[Transformers]]'', he pretends that his car is a Transformer named Son-Chu, "Proud Autobot Leader of the Cwcville, Virginia, Autobot Squad; he is also is my Cool [[Obesity|Sportin']], [[Carlos Chantor|Escortin' Car.]]"<ref>{{CWCipedia link|Son-Chu|Son-Chu}}</ref> From the [[CWCipedia]]:

{{quotebox|My Car is the Quick-Footed, well-armored '94 Escort; his name is Son-Chu. Dark Blue as Vehicle; he holds BatteryBlue/Yellow Combination Colors and Strong Personality under his hood. He has his Plasma Pistol/Energon Sword and Roof-Shield, and when [[Transformers|Decepti-Clones]] attack, he is the First to Show up to the Party and leading the [[Cwcville]] Autobot Defense Squad. When I'm not in the driver's seat, and he has to make his way to the fight, he projects my image in the Driver's Seat for the sake of his disguise.

Transformation Details: His Roof comes off his vehicle mode to make his Shield. His hood pops off to transform into his Plasma Pistol/Energon Sword.

**Stay Tuned to watch his Transformation in a few days.}}

The reason why the car is named "Son-Chu" remains unknown; it could be a reference to Full-Tilt<ref>[transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Full-Tilt]</ref> and/or Wipe-Out<ref>[transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Wipe-Out]</ref>, both Transformers with hyphenated names that turn into cars.

==Handicap parking permit==
Being a [[high-functioning autistic]] [[male]], Chris has also been granted a handicap parking permit, clearly visible in the photographs of the car.

Chris should be thanking his lucky stars that he lives in 1 of only 2 states (the other being New York) in which you can get a disabled permit for being autistic. A quick [http://www.google.com/search?q=autism+disability+parking Google search] on the topic reveals that these permits are intended for the benefit of parents whose autistic children bolt into traffic or [[tard rage|go mental]] in the store. In Virginia, a doctor must sign off on the application for the original permit, but not on subsequent renewals<ref>[http://www.dmv.state.va.us/webdoc/citizen/disability/renewal.asp Virginia DMV]</ref>. Given this, it's likely that Barb applied for it when Chris was a child, and the family has kept the permit so long because their fat, lazy asses can't be bothered to walk more than a few yards. Obviously, every second Chris leaves Son-Chu parked in a handicapped space so that he can loiter inside a business establishment is a second someone who actually can't walk more than a few yards can't park there to actually conduct business, not that Chris notices or cares.

The biggest question is, of course, this: who needs handicap permits when he's got a giant robot? If he can't find parking space, he could just level the parking lot. ''Duh.''

==Dashboard==
[[File:Cwchomersimpson.jpg|thumb|Homer, awaiting his ill gotten fate.]]
A [[The Simpsons|Homer Simpson]] figurine resides on Chris's dashboard. There also appears to be a Sonichu-related item, possibly a paper cutout stuck to an air freshener ([[Chris and health#Hygiene|to mask the hobo stank]]), hanging from his rear-view mirror. Interesting to note is that [http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+46.2-1054 Virginia law prohibits the suspension of distracting or view-obstructing objects from the rear-view mirror of a car], a fact which most Virginia driver's-ed programs make very clear, but with Chris's high-functioning life, he probably fell asleep during this part of the class.

==Vanity plate==
[[File:0655-CWCsSonichuLicense.JPG|thumb|The vanity plate, IRL (notice the [[autism]] and [[The GAMe PLACe]] bumper stickers, along with a [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]] license plate frame).]]
[[File:VanityPlateComic.jpg|thumb|The vanity plate, as seen from the [[Sonichu (comic)|comic]].]]
The [[Wikipedia:Vanity plate|plate]] reads "[[Sonichu (character)|SONICHU]]", thus ensuring no back-seat poontang for Chris. '''Ever.''' This habit of having a vanity plate stems from family. [[Bob]] had a vanity plate reading "UN4EVR" (apparently a statement of support for the U.N.) and "I B MR C" ("I be Mr. C," as in [[IBAChandler|I be Mr. Chandler]])<ref>[[CWC Update 29 July 2009]]</ref> and Barb has one named "B WESTON" (as in Barbara Weston){{cite}}. It may be worth noting that Virginia has the highest vanity plate registration rate of any U.S. state, so Chris's family may simply be following a cultural norm.<ref>[[Wikipedia:Vanity_plate#North_America]]</ref>

Chris's plate is fashionably overlaid with a "[[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PIEDMONT VA CC]]" frame.

==Bumper stickers==
Chris's car features a number of ancient and faded [[Wikipedia:Bumper sticker|bumper stickers]]. Odds are they were applied when he first received the car, and have been rotting on the bumper ever since. Bumper stickers have long been regarded as a means to relay one's ill-informed world views, and prominently display meaningless platitudes for the public view. Chris's choice in stickers is a prime example of typical bumper sticker fare.

From left to right:

* [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] window static - A nearly invisible, transparent overlay in the back window of Chris's car. Most of the text is too faded to decipher, but it contains the URL for [[CWC's Sonichu Site!|the old Tripod website]], what appears to be a faded drawing of the disembodied heads of both [[Sonic]] and Sonichu, and a very faint rendering of the ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' title text. They seem similar to the [[:File:197-cwcsonstecrd.jpg|ads in]] [[:File:163-cwcsonstecrdver2.jpg|the scrapbook]], but the logo is on the other side and the URL is bigger.
* [[Piedmont Virginia Community College]] - A round red sticker. The remnants of Chris's ill-fated and ultimately useless attendance of the local community college.
* Plan 9 Music<ref>[http://www.plan9music.com/Home]</ref> - A bumper sticker for a local [[Chris and music|record shop]] where Chris probably buys his [[Britney Spears]] CDs.
* An [[America]]n flag - Incredibly faded and neglected. Text underneath the flag reads "United We Stand". Probably added in [[2001]], during a [[Twin Falling Towers|frenzy of patriotism]].
* "[[Autism]]. Work For A Cure." - As always, Chris feels the need to advertise his disability to the world.
* "[[Pedofork|Come Play With Me!]]" - Currently, the most disturbing thing Chris has on his car. It is an advertisement for [[The GAMe PLACe]] in [[Chris_and_writing#Exposition|Comic Sans]]. We are sure that they [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|appreciate]] his endorsement.
* ???? - There are the completely faded and torn remnants of a sticker located on the center of Chris's bumper. It is unknown what resided there.

As of 25 [[October 2010]], it appears Chris has rearranged his sticker collection, seen in [[DayOut]]. The Plan 9 Music sticker remains in the same place; however, the American flag has been removed and replaced with a [[Wikipedia:Ichthys|Jesus fish]], a common symbol for identifying oneself as a [[Chris and Religion|Christian]]. "Come Play With Me!" has been replaced with a "Save [[McIntire Park]]" sticker, likely for obvious reasons. Since this was the first time we'd seen Son-Chu for quite a while, it was impossible to determine when either of these changes were made.

==Car trouble==
Chris has wound up in dangerous situations with his car, usually of his own creation, on a few occasions.

On 22 [[June 2005]], during his encounter with the management of the Charlottesville [[Mal-Wart|Wal-Mart]], Chris "nearly backed up onto" the store's [[Manajerks|manager]] towards the end of their argument. Given the way Chris describes the event (and his general unreliability as a witness), it's hard to say whether the near miss was intentional or accidental.

About a month later, on 25 [[July 2005]], Chris caused a minor fender-bender when he rear-ended a car he was following too closely. He was found to be at fault in the accident and ordered to pay $86 in fines and court costs.

During his famous run-in with [[Michael Snyder]] on 4 [[June 2010]], Chris attempted to flee the parking lot of [[The GAMe PLACe]] in his car, but wound up boxed-in by Snyder and a couple of nearby police officers. Snyder claimed that Chris had intentionally tried to run him over with his car, an accusation that Chris loudly denied. Also likely is that Chris, due to his poor coordination skills and admitted intoxication, nearly ran him over by accident in a blind panic.

==Mechanical issues==
[[File:Oil Change due 4-5-09.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's absurdly overdue oil change.]]

It is unknown what mechanical shape Son-Chu is in. However, given the state of the [[14 Branchland Court|Chandler home and its surrounding yard]], it's unlikely the family takes any better care of their vehicles. Possibly the best look we got at Son-Chu's condition was in the [[DayOut]] videos. Every time the car is stopped at a traffic light or parked somewhere, the engine rattles loudly; while a vibration at idle is a known design flaw with that year of Ford Escort, it is very possible that the motor mounts are shot (A common problem on that year of Escort), and since Chris spends all his money on [[:Category:Things bought with taxpayer money|worthless shit]], replacing his motor mounts would put him over budget. A [[Wikipedia:Pennzoil|Pennzoil]] sticker on the windshield states that the next recommended oil change was to take place on 5 [[April 2009]], over a year before the video was recorded; we also learn the virgin-mobile has at least 260,000 miles on it.
{{-}}

==Current status==
According to a [[Facebook statuses|Facebook status]] from February 2012, Chris no longer owns, or at least no longer drives Son-Chu. Why Chris bought another car and Son-Chu's fate are currently unclear; However, said Facebook status suggests that he may have bought another car to avoid detection by [[jerkop]]s. Chris likely got rid of Son-Chu sometime before fall 2011, as according to a leaked email, Chris was driving Barb's [[Wikipedia:Ford Aerostar|Ford Aerostar]] during the infamous GaMe PLaCe incident in October of that year. In September 2013, it was discovered that Son-Chu's "Sonichu" vanity plates had been transferred to a white [[Wikipedia:Cadillac Seville#1992.E2.80.931997|Cadillac Seville]], which Chris posted several pictures of himself driving since 2012. At the same time, Son-Chu was not spotted in the yard of 14 Branchland Court, confirming that it is no longer in the Chandlers' possession.

In September 2014, Chris listed the Cadillac Seville on [[Craigslist]], also noting that he and his family "invested thousands of dollars in not only a new CD Player/Radio, but Multiple repairs at a Cadillac dealership. But while it did run very well for a long time, a mechanic messed up on repairing it. Now it has a cracked engine block and requires a new battery and fresh gasoline." As of 24 September, Chris has purchased a used Ford Focus, implying that said Cadillac Seville may have been sold.

This begs the question of how Chris was ever able to afford any new cars at all, let alone two of them; when he has now subjected to begging for donations and/or Legos on Facebook, let alone Barb's dental operation.

==Gallery==
<center>
<gallery>
File:Son-ChuVehicle.jpg|Side profile of the car. "[[Honor roll]]" my ass.
File:Son-ChuBot.jpg|The car in Transformer mode. Note how the mild-mannered Escort somehow grows the front end of a Dodge Viper.
File:Playstation Patrol W CWC's Car.JPG|Chris parks his car outside of his version of [[PS3|Mecca]].
File:MODNATION 1.JPG|Son-Chu in ''[[ModNation Racers]]''.
File:Modnation AutobotSon-Chu.jpg|Post-Beta
File:ModNation AutobotSonChu.jpg|Transformed version.
File:SonChuComic9.jpg|Flawless.
File:SC12.png|[[2012]] ''ModNation Racers'' edition.
File:Carsonchu.png|Google Street View from [[June 2011]]. Features Barb reading comix and lots of clutter.
</gallery>
</center>

== Sources ==
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==See also==
{{CWCipedia}}
* [[Car Pranks]]
* [[Hot Wheels]]

{{Relics of Fail}}

[[Category:Relics of Fail]]
[[Category:Transformers]]

Talk:Son-Chu

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==Chandler cars==
Should we list the other two cars or what? [[User:Janitor|Janitor]] 06:58, 9 April 2009 (CEST)
*Maybe, but definitely not in this article. Or you could briefly mention them here in passing. The only major reference we have to the other cars is the pic of Chris in front of the BMW. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:56, 9 April 2009 (CEST)
*In the house tour vids, we see a few other cars. Some of them are hard to make out, but a Ford Aerostar is in the yard, and what looks to be a BMW Z3 roadster behind the house in a state of disrepair. It seems Bob has a thing for BMWs, and the Chandler family doesn't mind Fords. [[User:Alteceastlansing|Alteceastlansing]] 22:37, 2 October 2009 (CEST)
:*There's a picture from when Chris was 16 with the BMW. The problem is, we really can't say much because 1) we don't know all the cars they have and 2) all we can say is "The Chandlers have the following cars." Though if someone can do a better job than the person who made a "Chandler cars" article, then go ahead. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:57, 3 October 2009 (CEST)

I attempted to make a page for the Z3, but the article was deleted.--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 01:18, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

I can confirm that as of earlier this year, Son-Chu is sitting in Chris' front yard collecting dust. [[User:Dickbuns|Dickbuns]] 21:14, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

==Autistic Parking==
Lololololololololololololololololol

== Trollin' ==

What if someone stole the plate off of Chris's car? But you would have to do something to let him know, like cut it in half and give half to him, or mail him a letter to let him know. Suggestions?

* I'm pretty sure that's illegal, and CWCki is not a forum, go discuss trolling somewhere else..[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 03:27, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

*Is that legal?--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 01:22, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

==Rename==
The CWCipedia article on the Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens has a section "My other car is an autobot" where he goes on about how this car of his is actually an autobot named Sonchu and crazy Transformers shit. Anyone in favor of renaming the article SonChu and focus more on the car than the vanity plate? Or should we rename it to the more colloquial "Sonichumobile"? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:16, 30 July 2009 (CEST)
*I think that the vanity plate is still an important subject, since the motherfucker put Sonichu on it in big letters. But I do think that we could incorporate it into the article, while still making the car seem more important. But it is an important subject when it comes to CWC. And dam funny.--[[User:Howsyourham|Howsyourham]] 19:35, 30 July 2009 (CEST)

== Vanity Plate of Fail ==

I think the vanity plate should be added to the [[Relics of Fail]]. It qualifies as one because it cost him money (IE tax payer money) to get "SONICHU" written on his license plate, which range in price from $10 to $70 on average. The license plate also qualifies because it is something which makes Chris easily identifiable by anybody in the know of his exploits, which is helpful considering how many fat ugly people drive shitty, poorly maintained 10 year old station wagons in Virginia. --[[User:CrassCrab|The Great Wizard CrassCrab, Lord of the Seven Realm and Master of the Archane Black Arts of the Eleventh Trans-Dimensional Vortex]] 20:42, 5 December 2009 (CET)

== Expired Plates? ==

While I was brushing up this article, I noticed that in all of the pictures, the license plates are tagged as expiring in '07. It could be that the picture was merely taken in '07, but because the Chris-chan internet phenomena started in mid'07, it's likely that these pictures were taken in that year, if not later. If there is one thing that Chris is dependable about, he's dependably lazy. Could it be that he's too lazy to get his plates renewed? Can we verify when these pictures were taken or, even better, get a more recent picture of his car?--[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 22:16, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

== Parking Permit ==

Where did he say he got the parking permit for his autism? From what comes up when you Google "disabled parking autism", they're intended for parents whose kids have fits in the store and/or bolt into traffic. I'm starting to think he has it because he's too weak to walk all the way across a parking lot. [[User:Popobawa69|Popobawa69]] 19:06, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
* I can't find whether Virginia issues disabled parking permits for the obese. Perhaps the placard is Snorlax's? It's her car, after all. --[[User:Draygoon|Draygoon]] 21:30, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

==Vehicular Rage==
Given that Chris has now tried twice to run someone over, should we open up a section about Son-chu's weapon status? I'm thinking just a quick section about the mall security Chris tried to hit and Snyder of course... and while i'm at it, should we incorporate the comic where he drove to shoot liquid as well? Thought and opinions please --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 16:29, 12 June 2010 (EST)

== More on mechanical issues ==

Chris has 260,000 miles on his car, bent U Joints, and hasn't got an oil change in over a year. This we know as facts, but I, having a large interest in cars, am still curious as to finding out just how jacked up his car is. To put this in perspective, I'm currently investing in my grandfather's 1980 Chevrolet Suburban. It has the original engine, more than 900,000 miles on it, it has survived about several floods, and it still works. How does it still run? My grandfather was an excellent mechanic and was always doing his best to make sure that he got all he could out of his trucks. This includes changing his oil on a regular basis, making repairs the instant there was any issues with it, and taking it for regular tune ups. Mind you, everybody does this, but he made sure that he would die before his truck. Chris is absolutely nothing like my grandfather. So to see a car that's in terrible condition and only has 260,000 miles on it is really a shocker for me (I haven't actually seen a car with less than 150,000 miles on it). If anyone can expand on this topic, I would love to hear more. [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 00:38, 30 October 2010 (PDT)
*If Chris lived in the UK I highly doubt that car would pass it's MOT. Are there similar tests in America? -- [[User:Lunachu|Lunachu]] 06:40, 30 October 2010 (PDT)
*Yes, in Virginia you have to get one every year, so the clanking is probably a recent thing. [[User:Eamoo|Eamoo]] 08:14, 30 October 2010 (PDT)

== Autism sticker ==

>How is "Autism" a sentence? Do you think it can be "Cured" rather than treated? What are you doing to "Work For A Cure"? Why is "A" capitalized?

How is this at all relevant to the article? It's not like Chris made the sticker himself... should this bit be removed? [[User:Enibure|Enibure]] 10:10, 30 October 2010 (PDT)

== Homer Simpson picture ==

I don't quite know how to not make it not cut into the Vanity plate info, so if it's a problem, could someone please fix it so it doesn't? Thanks!--[[User:Demendred|Demendred]] 15:33, 17 June 20011 (PST)

== Son-chu stricken? ==

Should it be touched upon that Son-Chu was likely involved and possibly damaged in Chris' [[28 October 2011|latest adventures]]? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 00:52, 6 November 2011 (PDT)

Surfshack Tito sez it was Barb's Aerostar. Probably now sitting behind [[14 Branchland Court]] with the Z3 and suffering the transmission, radiator or brake issues that plagued the entire run of Aerostars and were notoriously bad on poorly maintained long-wheelbase passenger models like Barb's. [[User:Methdera|Methdera]] 03:12, 26 December 2012 (PST)

==We need to find out==

What Chris is driving now. I think I have an idea. - Whe Man

*The plate was most recently registered to a 1997 Cadillac Seville. -Random1248
How did you find that info? I would like to see the history of the SONICHU plate ($5 says it was on the Aerostar or the Mitsubishi between Bob's downfall and the Cadillac purchase) and look up the other Chandler car plates -Strato

[[User:Methdera|Methdera]] 03:09, 26 December 2012 (PST)

== Son-Chu Mk. II ==

Have any field agents seen Son-Chu Mk. II (the Cadillac) anywhere? [[User:FokkerTISM|FokkerTISM]] 22:12, 4 November 2013 (PST)

== Seriously, how? ==

I wish this page at least alluded to the sheer implausibility of how Chris, of all people, was even able to purchase a new car in the first place. Someone who has to beg on Facebook to get Legos, then dumps any money he does get on stupid kiddie crap, how does he get a new car?

And I'm mostly referring to that Sedan he put up on Craigslist. That was even before the Ebay fiasco... so, how? Blowjobs on the street? --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 21:47, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

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=="No shit is too minor"==

This is something that's been on my mind for a while and I feel like getting it off my chest now. It's about our motto "No shit is too minor." I get this impression that people think it means "We have a duty to document every facet of Chris, we must know everything about Chris, if Chris takes a shit we need to document it and keep track of his bowel movements." I think that isn't the case.

First off, "no shit is too minor" is something someone just came up with one day and I thought it suited us well. It's not something I came up with or anything, but I've liked it because what I've always interpreted it as is "We shouldn't overlook things about Chris." At times, people can be like "Oh, we don't need to worry about this recording, we've looked over it before," that is that they will overlook material about Chris or not think it's important. I think the "no shit is too minor" in that as wiki editors we should dig through the content we do have and try and find new insights about Chris in it. For instance, when I first watched the [[The 24th Wedding Anniversary Special]] I didn't think much of it. I was like "Okay, Chris is rambling on and doing Animal Crossing shit, who cares?" But then I watched it another day and noticed that he talks a lot about his parents and how they met, that's some pretty significant information. It doesn't mean we have to analyze his choice of font in the video, or we need to do a Freudian analysis of his music choices, but merely we shouldn't overlook things.

Anyways, I could go on but what I think we need to do is not to overlook the little things, that's how I've interpreted, rather than "Chris has a bowel movement, we need to document it and we need to know Chris's regularity" which is how I see a lot of people interpret it as.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:25, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*I agree completely, and encourage you to consider getting a new motto. I think the current one brings out people's spergy side. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:28, 27 January 2012 (PST)
** as i have said before, once you start leaving out details its like cancer. its all or nothing eventually. Either include everything because you never know what is or is going to be important (Elvis died on the crapper), or just dont include anything. if chris is irregular, well that sounds unimportant, but down the road that simple detail could help someone figure out something else. Logic requires detail for extrapolation of facts. more detail, more extrapolation, more facts...[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 07:03, 27 January 2012 (PST)
** a possible new motto would be "Just the facts" or "The devil is in the details"
**No, cancer would be filling up the CWCki with too many pointless details. Champ's rant was all about how we DON'T need to write about every little trivial aspect of Chris's life. It's fine to leave stupid shit out, and that's what we're trying to do. And, that is also why we are having this discussion about a possible new motto. That said, I think you have some good ideas for possible alternate mottos, and I highly encourage Champ if he's reading this to consider them. Also, you have to sign all your posts, not just your first one. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:55, 27 January 2012 (PST)
*** Define what is 'stupid' clearly... What facts should be left out? COnjecture, that should be left out.. Opinion, that should be left out... But NO FACT no matter HOW MINISCULE should ever be left out, lest it be gone forever. The simple things, the details, the minutia, thats where the truth of Chris really lies...[[User:Slimz|.-~ Slimz ~-.]] 09:12, 7 February 2012 (PST)

== Linking quotes ==

Ok so i was reading the PS3 article over and notices that chris is quoted saying 'I'd throw away the cure for autism' where the word autism is linked to the autism page. well on the Pixelated_PS3 page (where the video lives that the quote comes from) autism is is also linked to the word autism.. ok here is the issue, when quoting chris on a page other then the one that has the original video, should we link the quote to that page directly? i mean we seem to link all kinds of stuff to all kinds of stuff but a barely see any quotes linked back to the source of the quote. Just asking what the protocol is for that?
*We usually do link back the quotes in the article text around them or in the quote description. I don't think that there is any set in stone policy about it, but I can't really think of any instance where a quote's source has not been linked in the article somewhere. If you can though, by all means show me where. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:55, 27 January 2012 (PST)
* if i run across it i will rectify it, the source is linked in the citation on the page i was talking about so there is a link, Chris is obviously quoted often so im sure there are quotes on pages with no back links. i guess creating citations for quotes is the best way to go.

== Megaupload and Filesharing sites ==

I've noticed that in quite a few articles that include things for download the link that lead to recently shut down file serving sites have been closed. Is it a priority to fix these? [[User:Granola|Granola]] 06:42, 13 February 2012 (PST)
*Yes, it is a priority (and a quite large one at that). I am currently fixing the ones that I can and moving the ones that are still working to Google Drive. Drive will probably never shut down and the files will never be removed. Please feel free to do the same to any download links that you find that are not on Google Drive or are broken. [[User:Pyromcr|Pyromcr]] 8:18, 21 July 2012 (CST)

== Chris and violence ==

Chris and violence have a long relationship. He has not only threatened violence, but also responded to threats of violence. He has performed tasks under the threat of violence and requested that tasks be performed with violence as an alternative..

The point here is that anger is one thing and violence is another. Chris has enough of a relationship with different areas of violence, that i believe that it deserves an article in the '''Chris and''' series.

Violence itself should not be lumped with anger. Anger is an emotion where as violence is an act (or in many cases the threat of an act) anger deals with how chris feels toward a specific situation where as violence deals with how Chris acts. im not a great christorian but i know enough to understand that ''''Chris and violence'''' is a subject that deserves a page on this wiki... [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 05:31, 9 March 2012 (PST)
*First, we already have the [[Death Threats]] article, so that kind of counts. Second, Chris is pretty much [[Power|incapable]] of violence anyway (unless he gets his hands on a gun, but why would he buy a gun when that can go into [[vidya]]?), so anger and threats are all he's going to get. While I agree that he does seem to resort to violence pretty often, I have to say that he often channels that anger into various things we already have articles on, whether it be the [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] or the death threats previously mentioned. [[User:Boriki|Boriki]] 20:42, 22 March 2012 (PDT)
** Im not entirely convinced. The article i was thinking about is not just focused on chris DOING violence, but how he perceives violence, his bigotry regarding violence, and how he reacts to threats of violence. Basically chris is a bully, a pussy and generally has no empathy.[[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 05:01, 23 March 2012 (PDT)
***Sounds rather pointless to me. The Chris and series in general just seems to be a way to take potshots at Chris nowadays, but they do have their place and they do cover a lot of things that would be hard to place into other articles. [[Chris and the law]] for instance I think is a page we needed to have. It could have ''maybe'' been placed into the [[Jerkop]] article, but it would have been wildly out of place. Now Chris and Violence on the other hand is something that very easily folds into articles like [[Death Threats]] and [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]], or even [[Chris and anger]]. Really, if you want to go into Chris's perception of violence, most of what you'd come up with would be ninety percent speculation anyway. You can try to write up the article yourself, and if anything is salvageable and CWCki appropriate we could make it into a [[Chris and anger]] subsection, but it's hardly appropriate for its own article. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:38, 23 March 2012 (PDT)

== A-Logging ==

I've been thinking, what would you all think of a page covering "A-Logging", that is thinking that Chris is worse than Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot combine and deserves to be punished? I think this issue is sort of the opposite extreme of [[White knighting]] which we deal with. Now, I bring this up here because I ask - do you think we should have a formal article about it, ala the White knighting article, or perhaps we should make a policy about it to elaborate on [[CWCki:NPOV|NPOV]]? I think we get a lot of grief that we tend to foster A-Logs, that people will read the CWCki and think Chris is an awful person who has committed crimes against humanity (which really isn't the case). Or perhaps we should do both? My concern with an actual article on it is that A-Logging hasn't really impacted Chris trolling the same way white knighting has. A-Logs don't really fuck things up, they just make normal trolls look bad.

I think we should try to be more neutral towards Chris, critical yet fair, as I believe that ideally we should be presenting information about Chris as "This is what we know about Chris" rather than "Chris is x, y, z (and they're all bad things"). So, what do you all think? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:59, 29 April 2012 (PDT)
*Yes. We need an article like this. A legitimate article like the White Knight one that explains in detail just how stupid the whole idea is, and with examples of what has resulted from it. In particular, I think we should point out that A-Log managed to get his own Encyclopedia Dramatica page from doing so. That will deter this sperginess if nothing else. While we're at it, I also think that links to this page should be added into the CWCki's welcome message so that new users are directed to it, and it should get linked on the front page, at least for a little while, so that as many thirteen year old youtubers as possible see it. I also would not object to A-Logging being made a temporarily bannable offence, just so we can get rid of those that ignore it. I know the forums are already considered a hive for sperginess, but that's a reputation that does not need to be attached to actual wiki users. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:11, 1 May 2012 (PDT)

So is anyone else going to do this, or will I have to? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 02:11, 10 May 2012 (PDT)
*I'm currently hopped up on caffeine so I'll write out a rough draft, once I'm done I'll post it here and you can all edit it.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:17, 11 May 2012 (PDT)
*I've started a rough draft [[User:Champthom/Alogging|here]]. By all means edit it and comment on it.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:50, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

== Activity meter ==

I was wondering if we could setup an activity meter, kind of like the defcon or the homeland security color system. It would theoretically measure how active chris is. Just thought ot would be a nice graphic that we could update when his activity level changes. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 09:26, 30 April 2012 (PDT)
*One of the few ideas Slimz has ever had that I'm fully behind. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:12, 1 May 2012 (PDT)
** thanks, you dont have to like my ideas, but if i have them im gonna share them, worst anyone can say is "no" [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 08:51, 3 May 2012 (PDT)
* After missing years of CWC news, I'm using the [[CWChronology]] as a gauge for activity. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 01:53, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
*I'm not a fan of this idea because if it's low activity, people will get pissed and it'll worsen discontent. Plus it's subjective, Chris posting a few Facebook posts every now and then is pretty good activity nowadays, though it'd probably be considered low than the days where Chris was releasing something every day.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:31, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

== Index of terms ==

I think an index of terms that are used often would be useful.
Things like:
Solid Chris
Liquid Chris
China
Pickle
true and honest
fans
gal-pal
sweetheart

Now i know that the terms for the most part each have an article, but a single page of Chris-centric vocabulary would be nice.
thoughts [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 07:34, 9 May 2012 (PDT)

== Audio articles? ==

Someone on the CWCki Forums suggested that audio versions of articles, namely the "Chris and..." series be made so people like himself could listen to articles while he's working or driving to whatever. I suggested he post the request here, but I figure I'd help him out and post it here for him. My only concerns are 1) do you all think there is sufficient demand for audio articles (in other words, would anyone else besides this guy be interested in them?) and 2) does anyone here have a pleasant voice to read an article with?

I don't think it's a bad idea, I mean it would make Chris accessible to the blind and people who don't feel like reading articles and would rather listen to them, but it's not like it's a huge, huge priority. I'm mostly posing this here to gauge responses, namely if anyone else would be interested in audio articles.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:26, 30 June 2012 (PDT)
* there are a few problems
#This is a wiki and its always changing
#The "Chris and" series is one of the first most people read
#It would be very boring unless it was all rewritten in novel fashion

== The CWCki forums ==

I looked for it, and it was gone. What happened? - Murderdartxker 18:07, 18 November 2012 (PST)

== Kacey Calls ==

So the Youtube channel that had all the calls was banned and all the Mediafire links to the files are dead. How can we replace the videos let alone get the files back? This is a massive part of CWC history that was just destroyed and needs to be recovered.

[[User:Pyromcr|Pyromcr]] 05:38, 5 December 2012 (CST)
*I've got a handful on my computer. I'd ask on the forum. As I recall someone else has brought this up in the past. While there's some great stuff in a couple of the calls, the vast majority are duller than dishwater. --[[User:Lumber|Lumber]] 18:38, 5 December 2012 (PST)
**Upload them somewhere and fix as many broken links as you can. ~[[User:Pyromcr|Pyromcr]] 09:54, 5 December 2012 (CST)
**It doesn't matter if they're duller than dishwater or not. We're CWC historians here, and they're part of the historical record. I know there's been talk about "how minor is too minor" when it comes to recording Chris and his actions, but a trolling MP3 is an important piece of history and deserves to be re-uploaded and re-linked. --[[User:HCAndersen|HCAndersen]] 22:26, 8 January 2013 (PST)

== The state of things ==

I'll be honest, I and the rest of the staff has been doing a really lousy job keeping up with the CWCki. I don't think we need the number of mods and admins that we needed in the past when Chris was in full force but I think pretty much everyone on the staff is assuming that everyone else in the staff is keeping an eye on the CWCki and as a result, no one keeps an eye on the CWCki. I hear people will sometimes complain that Google will mark this site as an attack site and I'm wondering if it's because we're not banning people who do that sort of thing as it happens.

The big thing I plan on doing is auditing the CWCki staff, checking in on mods and admins for their current status and possibly downsizing the staff and/or replacing it with fresh blood. It's a first step towards trying to clean up on things.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:52, 24 June 2013 (PDT)

== Breaking up Facebook article ==

I think the facebook article is too big and we need to break it up into sections. I'll try to make some example pages in my userspace. [[User:Chaosakita|ChaosAkita]] 20:34, 6 September 2013 (PDT)
* I'll break it up once we finished doing all the Facebook posts and fixing the links to the sections. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 03:15, 7 September 2013 (PDT)
*I was about to think, maybe break it up by month? Even if Chris stop doing this by, say, the end of the month, it wouldn't be a waste to have a "September 2013 Facebook posts" article. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:04, 9 September 2013 (PDT)
* I'm glad to see breaking up the article is a priority. I guess I'll check back in a couple of months to see if it's still a thing. [[User:Chaosakita|ChaosAkita]] 19:21, 9 September 2013 (PDT)
* I'm doing it right now. You want it, you got it. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 01:03, 11 September 2013 (PDT)

== New Quote Box Colours? ==

Because of there are some Facebook posts which involve more than 3 users in conversations, (such as [[September_2013_Facebook_Posts#Chris_Expresses_His_Outrage_for_Walmart|this one]], which had 5 users posting) should we add more colours of quote boxes? Currently, there's only red, green and blue. I thought up of yellow and orange. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 01:27, 20 September 2013 (PDT)

== Cleaning up Facebook page ==

Hi, I'm starting to try to break up the facebook page, while adding info from [http://imgur.com/a/1HYJJ here]. Just wanted to make sure there was no opposition to this. I've already created a separate section for August 2013 posts. [[User:Chaosakita|ChaosAkita]] 11:18, 3 November 2013 (PST)

== New facebook navigation bar ==

Unless anyone tells me no, I will be working on a couple of things:

1. Breaking up ALL facebook posts into pages based on months (since this is what Champ seems to want)
2. Working on a new navigation bar for the facebook section to accommodate the split pages

Facebook remains our largest source on Chris's antics, so I think it's incredibly important that his posts are displayed in a readable and organized manner.

Alright, I hope no one reverts my work or anything.

[[User:Chaosakita|ChaosAkita]] 15:58, 4 November 2013 (PST)

* Also here is my proposed new navigation bar [[User:Chaosakita/exampletemplate]] [[User:Chaosakita|ChaosAkita]] 16:06, 4 November 2013 (PST)
* I seem to have gotten the goahead from Champ, so I went ahead and replaced the navigation bar. Hope it doesn't bother anyone. [[User:Chaosakita|ChaosAkita]] 07:47, 5 November 2013 (PST)

== Facebook revamp ==

Looks like not too many people care about this so I'm going to continue with my plan:

1. I'm going to split up 2012 and 2013 into months (and abandon the existing 2012 and 2013 pages)
2. I'm going to continue transcribing pages from the imgur leak. This might take a while.
3. I already replaced the Facebook navigation template.

Also, here's some things I would like to do:

1. I would like the abandon the titles for each post. They are not that informative, and can be even be misleading. I also suck at coming up with them. On the other hand, I have no idea how I would separate each section
2. I would like to separate Notes and Status Updates. Not a huge deal, but it would make everything neater, I guess.

[[User:Chaosakita|ChaosAkita]] 07:52, 5 November 2013 (PST)

== Something Awful original threads ==

In the 2007 article there are links to the archived versions of the original SA threads about Chris. I think it would be very worthwile to have our own copies of these as an archive. Does anyone have a SA archive account, or know someone with these accounts who would be up for the job? The links are the following:
*http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2667671
*http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2636398&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=8#post335082042 [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] ([[User talk:RachmaninovDESU|talk]]) 22:06, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

:Wouldn't that be illegal? I'm guessing that SA has copyrighted that content or used some other legal precautions to prevent people from copying it and giving it to other people free of charge. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] ([[User talk:NegaCWC|talk]]) 22:32, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

:Could be, but we have quoted comments from dozens of websites and message-boards and have never really been in trouble for that. It would probably be best to ask first, but I think we'd get permission to mirror the threads due to the nature of this site. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] ([[User talk:RachmaninovDESU|talk]]) 10:57, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

::But as far as I gather none of those message boards and websites hide behind paywalls. If we were to put archived SA threads on this wiki than in theory we will be making SA lose money. Permission should definitely be asked before we put anything from SA on the CWCki, but I'm not sure if we should even bother about getting copies of those threads. Do they contain any interesting information about Chris that's not already documented on this wiki? If not than in my opinion it's not worth the effort. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] ([[User talk:NegaCWC|talk]]) 20:07, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

:::Iirc they don´t contain interesting info about Chris himself, they do, however, contain very interesting info on the earliest spread of Chris as a web phenomenon, something which is very much relevant to this wiki. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] ([[User talk:RachmaninovDESU|talk]]) 17:15, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

::: Ok, I worked around the problem by adding a link to an archived version of the thread. The interesting thing is that the thread is started because of an eyewitness report on Chris that seems unrelated to Lucas taking the first pic (on the same day). Not sure if this is coincedence or if it adds up somehow. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] ([[User talk:RachmaninovDESU|talk]]) 17:54, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

::::It would be nice to have at least a partial screenshot, say, of the first few posts (as opposed to a whole honking thread), making the more-or-less start of this whole 'project' as it were, up on a page ''here''. At very least, it could be argued that there's a copyright exception/clause for documents of 'historical' nature? Giving credit for the source, of course. --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] ([[User talk:Xavier orona|talk]]) 05:22, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

== What ''will'' happen to the CWCki after Chris passes? ==

It would be hundreds of pages mocking a dead guy. Would we edit articles and tone down the jokes? I know that most people would not want to see the CWCki shut down, so what will happen? --[[User:Innocuous Banter|Innocuous Banter]]

And right now it's hundreds of pages mocking an autistic manchild; what's the difference? It's not like this encyclopedia is ED, where everything is just a straight up mock. There's a lot more information here than there is sass, so, whenever Chris passes (I'm betting he certainly doesn't live into old age), I think preserving what Chris was should be the duty of this site, for everyone who wants to know. It's not like Chris has to be alive for anyone to enjoy him; you don't even need to know anything about him to still laugh at his videos, and find something that appeals to you. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 16:36, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

== Gamestop incident of December, 2014 ==

The video is on the main page, so what's going to happen to Chris this time? The Gamestop employee was sprayed with pepper spray, according to an eyewitness. It appears that Chris is now in jail waiting for video court. I'd also like to add that he violated a ban from Fashion Square Mall. It's gotten pretty serious this time. Is anyone else going to call tomorrow afternoon for information regarding his sentence? --[[User:Innocuous Banter|Innocuous Banter]] ([[User talk:Innocuous Banter|talk]]) 01:00, 29 December 2014 (UTC)Innocuous Banter

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The World Is Yours: /* A-logging */

==Hi there!==

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Welcome to [[CWCki]]! There's a lot to do around here because Chris never does anything himself. I hope you'll stay with us and make many improvements of your own!

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--[[User:WelcomeBot|WelcomeBot]] 09:01, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

==A-logging==
I understand your point, but again, the Cwcki is really aimed more toward documentation than purely insulting Chris. A few jabs here and there is fine, but non-Chris specific autism bashing hardly has a place in an article about law, if anywhere on the wiki. [[User:Boomhauer|Boomhauer]] ([[User talk:Boomhauer|talk]]) 23:17, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

*I didn't see it as a jab though, because it pretty much is a literal interpretation on how Chris views and both uses his autism: as a get-out-of-trouble-free-card. That's just Chris, and will always be Chris.--[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 23:21, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Chris and the law

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[[Image:116-CWCCop.jpg|thumb|Chris aways keeps an eye out for criminal scum who would dare steal [[Sonichu]].]]

'''Laws''' are rules established by a society to protect its members and ensure the orderly function of society. Their observance is usually maintained by [[Jerkop|law enforcement]] and penalties are placed on those who disobey the laws.

For [[Chris]], however, these just serve as another deterrent in his endless quest for [[china]].

==Understanding==
{{quote|I have been giving him reasons since the police came in June of [[2008]], and nothing has sunken into that [[Hello, Juffalo|clown head]] of his.|[[Michael Snyder]]<ref><s>[http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=6odVsyr3I40]</s> (the video is fine, but that comment is no longer present as of Jun 2014)</ref>}}

[[Image:Impliedshooting.jpg|thumb|left|Brutality- [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Godmode!Chris]]'s solution to Law Enforcement.]]

Like his grip on [[Chris and reality|reality]], Chris's understanding of the law is uneasy at best, and dangerously naïve at worst. He regularly threatens trolls with legal action, and makes no distinction in severity between a troll [[Ivy Q&A|threatening violence]] against Chris and a troll uploading a harmless picture of [[Rosechu]] with a [[pickle]] to the Internet. As a matter of fact, Chris himself is prone to making [[I'LL BREAK YOU DEAD|extremely violent threats]], such as [[Sign Destruction Video|threatening to murder]] [[Vivian]] and her entire family because of the [[audiobooks]]. He's done everything from calling the police to convincing his father to write to then-[[George W. Bush|President Bush]] in an attempt to get rid of his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page. He has even attempted (poorly) to impersonate the President in a hilarious attempt to convince the trolls at ED to take down his page,<ref><s>http://encyclopediadramatica.es/index.php?title=Chris-chan&diff=prev&oldid=1997405266</s> (dead link as of Jun 2014)</ref> and has attempted to contact current [[Barack Obama|President Obama]] to stop people from posting gay ads. Chris also believes that the laws in [[CWCville]] and the laws stated in [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'']] should be enforced ''in real life.''<ref>[[Mailbag 55#Draconian fun!]]</ref>

Chris himself doesn't have much respect for laws and rules, at least when [[Chris and hypocrisy|their enforcement inconveniences him]]. During his time at [[Get-Tar Region|Target]] he didn't see anything wrong with exploiting the free refill policy and loitering for hours at a time in a privately-owned establishment while harassing female customers and apparently [[Attraction Sign|soliciting sex]]. Chris feels that his [[Virgin with rage|emotional state]] entirely justifies his actions at times, stating in [[Vivitheg's AIM chat]] that he should be excused for disturbing the peace by literally shouting "NOOOOOOO!" loudly in the middle of a crowded mall.<ref>[[Sonichu 1#Sub-Episode 2: Christian Chandler in "The Rise & Fall of My Heart"]]</ref>

Self-contradictory to a fault, though, Chris is happy to meticulously follow some laws while ignoring others at the same time. In [[Sonichu Special 4]], his cartoon avatar makes a point of obeying the speed limit... while on his way to confront [[Liquid Chris]] and commit assault with a [[Megatron Pistol|deadly weapon]] upon him. Any intelligent and decent person could tell you which of these laws is more important, but Chris is neither intelligent nor decent. In a [[May 2010]] video, Chris states that he believes a man who brutally beat his girlfriend to death with his bare hands deserved twenty years in prison for his crimes, which is just twice the penalty he wants for [[Tobacky|smoking]].<ref>[[05142010]]</ref>

In addition, Chris has very little respect for [[Jerkop|those who enforce the law]]:

{{quote|Verbal Combat had started, and during the fight, I ran off, still giving verbal punishment, as well as da finger, and many “[[Curse-Ye-Ha-Me-Ha]]s.” I nearly backed up onto him with my car, and I gave him another finger. Then I dashed off.|Excerpt from Chris's [[CWC's Diary|diary]]}}

The above quote pretty much defines Chris's attitude towards law enforcement officials. He feels that it is completely appropriate to flip off, insult, and [[lie]] to people who are simply doing their jobs. And, of course, as any rational person (i.e. anyone who's not Chris) would understand, running away from law enforcement officials is a seriously bad idea. Chris is truly a rebel without a cause or effect.

The correspondence with Jackie revealed that in the trial on the [[Target]] incident, Chris thought that his work with the [[The_GAMe_PLACe#Chris_the_TCG_gamer|Pokémon TCG League]] let him off the hook.<ref>[[Jackie e-mails Part 2#Chris_lies_about_The_Game_Place]]</ref> In reality, the court probably acquitted him either on a technicality or insufficient evidence. Chris probably mentioned the volunteer work because he believed a person's merits, no matter how unrelated, would automatically make one innocent of all charges. It is also telling that he recounted the charge as "Soliciting", whereas the actual charge was "Disorderly Conduct"; he feels that he was only persecuted because of his [[Love Quest]] efforts, and not because he was tard raging.

Of interesting note, is that contrary to Chris's [[Women's rights|general]] [[Homos|political]] [[Niggos|views]], he seems to be in favor, or at least accepting of gun control legislation.<ref>[[A Public Announcement for Congress]]</ref> Whether or not he has a firm understanding of what he's saying, it's at the very least a more rational stance than [[Wikipedia:Alex Jones (radio host)|certain other obese manchildren who make a living off posting angry videos of themselves on the internet]].

Interestingly, Chris seems to have a ''very'' skewed view of the idea of "self-defense", which is exemplified with the acquisition of pepper spray. Pepper spray, like most defensive weapons, should be used as a last resort, to keep people from attacking you. As seen with the [[26 December 2014|GameStop attacks]], Chris uses it as a means to keep anyone he doesn't like away. Using that event as an example, the man he sprayed wasn't even near him and Chris decided to do so without any provocation. It got worse when, days later, he began a commotion in a [[Wal-Mart]] using the device. To Chris, it's the ultimate [[troll] and [[Jerkop]] deterrent when, in actuality, he's waving around assault charges on a stick.

==Legal troubles==

The following is a list of incident Chris had with the law. This list may not be complete; in a telephone conversation with [[Ivy]] in 2009, [[Bob]] told her that Chris had in the past six or seven incidents with the law,<ref>[[Ivy Q&A#The end]]</ref> and yet this article lists only three incidents that precede 2010.

===2004===
On 11 September [[2004]], Chris was detained at [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]] for loitering, and continually arguing with the staff over a number of months. The incident is depicted in [[Sub-Episode 1]]. Chris was banned from returning to the mall on his own and without his parents' company. However, it appears that this ban was lifted or ignored soon afterward.

===2005===
On 20 July [[2005]], Chris was charged with disorderly conduct<ref name="2005 Disorderly Conduct">[[:File:20050720-GC05009339-00.png|Disorderly conduct charge, 20 July 2005]]</ref> and trespassing<ref name="2005 Trespassing">[[:File:20050720-GC05009340-00.png|Trespassing charge, 20 July 2005]]</ref> at Target, as depicted in [[Sub-Episode 7]] and [[Sub-Episode 8]]. After two hearings,<ref name="2005 Disorderly Conduct" /><ref name="2005 Trespassing" /> prosecutors chose to drop the case and Chris was not punished.

Five days later, Chris caused an auto accident when he followed another car too closely and rear-ended it. This went to court on 12 September 2005.<ref name="2005 Following Too Close">[[:File:20050728-GT05011195-00.png|Following too close, 28 July 2005]]</ref> He was fined $30 and had to pay $56 in court costs.

===2010===
Chris's various run-ins at [[The GAMe PLACe]] have resulted in the cops being called on him a couple times. At least once after Chris called in his parents after he was initially banned from the location and tried to weasel his way back in, and again when he trespassed on the property, though he wasn't charged with anything on either occasion.<ref>[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]</ref>

On 4 [[June 2010]], Chris made yet another pilgrimage to The GAMe PLACe. Chris was armed with his camera, and while Mike was concerned that Chris wanted pictures of his daughter for [[Mass Debating|disturbing reasons]], Chris maintains that he merely wanted a picture of Mike [[Death threats|for use as a dartboard]]. Still disturbing, but in entirely different ways. Chris was caught in the parking lot despite trying to run away, and was questioned by the police, who made him delete the pictures he had taken, and basically told him to quit his shit. Chris made his [[6 June 2010]] video in response to these events.

===2011===
In a [[May 2011]] [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]] post, Chris said that he has begun to use the ladies' restroom at his local mall while dressed in drag; he recounts an incident in which ''"a woman complains and tattles on me, and a [[JERK|stereotypical Brute male]] shouts me out. I felt embarassed. When in skirt, I am still gonna go to the Ladies, because there is no goin' back for me."'' This supposed brute male may or may not have been with [[Jerkop|mall security]].

In his [[Calling Out|three new videos]] posted after 8-month-long hiatus from YouTube he tries to do something which some viewers of ''The Chandler Show'' believe to be blackmail. Chris admitted it by typing word ''blackmail'' in tags for last of them; however trolls hoping for a lawsuit [[saga]] shouldn't get their hopes up, because it's unlikely any of the [[trolls]] threatened by it would want to report him, given that they've all been trying to get him back onto the internet for months and wouldn't want to drive him off again. Not to mention Chris probably doesn't have anything on them at all. Note that under Virginia law, his demands are more likely to be considered extortion (still a class five felony) rather than blackmail.

In the same video, Chris also point blank accused [[Michael Snyder]] of molesting his own daughter, all while admitting that he doesn't have any concrete proof of his allegation. Given how prone he is to accusing others of slandering him (aka pointing out his bad qualities that are extremely evident to everyone but Chris), Chris's accusations are very hypocritical. If Michael Snyder did want to sue Chris in civil court, he would indeed have a case against him as Chris's allegations are textbook defamation. However, it's questionable what Snyder would win in litigation, aside from a [[PS3]], numerous children's [[toys]] and the five or so dollars in Chris's bank account.

On [[28 October 2011]], Chris ended up in the worst possible scenario, netting a felony charge and two misdemeanors in what appears to be a ''third'' attempt to enter the GAMe PLACe. It appears that the Virginia justice system had finally run out of patience.

As a direct result of his October 28 run in with Michael Snyder, Chris had found both himself and his [[barb|mother]] on the receiving end of a civil suit. Having been sentenced to community service and put under a probation, and being charged with paying Snyder's medical bills, this may very well have been the first time that he has felt ramifications for his accusations and threats. However, it is much more likely that he simply [[Chris and his Ego|doesn't care]], or still feels as if he were the [[Kick the Autistic|real victim]] in all of this.

===2012===

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On 4 [[February 2012]], it was revealed on his [[Facebook]] that Chris no longer has respect for ''any'' sort of law enforcement after the events of [[28 October 2011]], officially deeming everyone who upholds the law a [[Jerkop]]. At the same time, he revealed another encounter with the boys in blue that day. As he attempted to pass out fliers while at the mall, encouraging others to stay away from the Game Place, two Jerkops (or as Chris puts it, "a Jerkop and an accomplice") approach him. Despite the officers simply wanting to talk to him and letting him know he wasn't in any trouble, Chris's paranoia kicked in and he ran. While the story Chris gives seem to hint that the officers just wanted to tell him to knock off the distribution of fliers, Chris believed otherwise, citing that one of them called out his name and making him think they wanted to post another encounter with him on the Internet. He escaped by diving into a Mitsubishi, most likely replacing the dying piece of scrap that is [[Son-Chu]], and driving off.

On the 12th April, Chris [[Virgin_with_rage#No_longer_a_virgin_.28no_word_on_the_rage.29|announced the loss of his virginity]], giving off strong hints that he had slept with a hired prostitute. He all but [[Facebook#Hey.2C_Trollies|confirmed this]] on the 1st May, when he said that he 'found her on the backpage', a website that solicits prostitutes. In the state of Virginia, this constitutes a Class 1 Misdeameanor and is therefore illegal. It is unknown whether or not Chris is aware of this, but it's very likely that if he is, [[Fuck Quest|he simply doesn't care.]]

On 28 [[April 2012]], Chris revealed another incident in the mall. Prior to his Facebook note on 30 [[March 2012]], Chris got into a shouting match with a troll on his cell phone at the mall. The shouting did not go unnoticed, and Chris ran for it once security was called in. On 25 April, Chris received a ban from the mall,<ref>[[Facebook#Maniacal Laughter from Who now? Oh, wait, It Is ME! >8D]]</ref> though it is unknown if it was for that incident or an incident that happened between those two dates.

On 10 [[July 2012]], Chris was arraigned in court for the [[28 October 2011]] incident. After calling Snyder a "thieving liar" in the courtroom, Chris was sentenced to community service and put under a one-year probation. He was also ordered to pay Snyder's medical bills.

===2013===

In September 2013, Chris committed an act of vandalism (an arrestable offense) by defacing an [[HEX-BOX|XBox One]] display at a [[Wal-Mart]], but got off easy by merely just being banned from the store. Given his furious reaction to this and his track record with a [[Michael Snyder|certain store owner]] who also did the same, it remains to be seen if Chris would follow up on his threat to have his revenge. Also, much like his tantrum at the [[Fashion Square Mall]] in 2005, Chris was also confronted by a [[jerkop]] at a local restaurant after scratching a woman's car with his, and screaming out loud in public. Chris claimed he was [[Chris_and_religion|cursing God for all his misfortune recently]].

===2014===

On 29 [[March 2014]], a report surfaced on the [[CWCki Forums]] saying that earlier that month Chris has been spotted trying to steal merchandise from [[Best Buy]]. The next day Chris denied the truthfulness of the report, but [[Kim]] confirmed that the attempted shoplifting had indeed occurred.<ref>[[March 2014 Facebook Posts#Rumour]]</ref>

On [[26 December 2014]], Chris vandalized a Sonic Boom display in GameStop in the [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]] and was forced out due to a previous ban, but not before he attacked a staff member with pepper spray who was calling security. By the 28th, he was confirmed to have been jailed.

==Chris's parents and law==

It's not hard to figure out why Chris thinks the law should serve him and him alone. His parents, too, have the same problem.

* When Chris was thrown out of the [[Wikipedia:Cub Scouting (Boy Scouts of America)|Cub Scouts]] after an [[autism|unknown incident]], his parents attempted to sue the [[Wikipedia:Boy Scouts of America|Boy Scouts of America]] for [[Kick the autistic|discrimination]].<ref>[[Mailbag 18]]</ref>
* When Chris threw a tantrum that required him to be restrained, Bob attempted to sue the school.<ref><s>[http://208.210.219.132/stars/mainmenu.jsp;jsessionid=0000XHMY2MEVFIV0HN4N1CX0EQA:ulnfn1uq], case 0438-94-2</s> (dead link as of Jun 2014)</ref>
* When [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] took a picture of Chris and uploaded it to the Internet, Chris's parents threatened them with legal action (but never followed through).
* When [[Snorlax]] thought she had indigestion (actually [[Wikipedia:colitis|colitis]]), she acted like she was going to sue the Chinese place the food came from. When the doctor actually explained what happened, she dropped the subject.
* Chris inherited his love of running from problems - when his parents had their absurd case against Greene County used against them, their first reaction was to run to another county.<ref>[[Greene County Conspiracy]]</ref>
* When [[Asperchu|Alec]] called the Chandler household posing as [[GAMe PLACe]] employee Matthew Noble, they claimed that taking pictures of somebody without their knowledge or consent was "not illegal." It is ironic, given that they threatened to sue Mimms and Lucas for exactly the same thing.<ref name="Matthew Noble call">[[Matthew Noble call]]</ref>
* During that same call, Bob seems to completely disregard the concept that an individual can be barred from private property, saying, "it's a business place," as though that has any more bearing on the law and how it affects his son than, say, the color of the store's walls.<ref name="Matthew Noble call"/>
* On [[28 October 2011]], Barb was arrested for not only fleeing the scene of an accident, but also felony assault on a police officer, a crime that a remotely sensible person would never commit due to the serious consequences attached to it (mandatory minimum of six months' imprisonment on conviction); however, the recent death of her husband, her age, ill-health and dependent son probably helped earn her clemency.
*On 10 [[July 2012]], Barb was arraigned in court for her participation in the 28 October 2011 incident. She was sentenced to community service and is under a two year probation.

==Chris's ORIGINAL and OFFICIAL laws==
[[Image:AL cover.gif|thumb|Where Chris's ORIGINAL and OFFICIAL laws come from.]]
As he believes the police in real life are corrupt and sees them in the same light as he sees the [[jerkop]]s in his comic, Chris has his own spin on the law. The penalties for [[Alcohol|drinking]], [[Tobacky|smoking]] and [[trolls|internet harassment]] involve physical violence including a "Kick in the Teeth" which Chris portrays as a punch in the first and only of his supposed series of Q&A videos.<ref>[[Chris Chan Q&A 27 October 2008|the only one]]</ref>

On 31 [[December 2009]], Chris presented a nice babble about a law he wants made to prevent [[Jack Thaddeus]] from using adspace he paid for.

{{quote|I Have The Instinct, and I Have Already [[CWC-ism|Snail-Mailed]] President Barack Obama on how this sort of bad advertisement is going on and how it is Wrong and should be made Illegal. On HOW if the Main Captain does not WANT or IS OFFENDED with the listed Ads within his own Website or Works, REGARDLESS of who controls the AdSpace, WOULD REMOVE THOSE ADS or face JAILTIME. And the F.B.I. would be FULLY INVOLVED in all this, and THEY have the Power, Tools and Balls to seek, hunt down and bring in the Individual Internet Trolls and Ad-Spammers.|Chris, [[Chris and his Ego|Thinking he's important]]}}

Yes, you heard it right. Chris wants to ask the President of the United States to make [[Chris and reality|advertisements he doesn't like illegal.]] From a practical standpoint, CWCipedia is the only wiki that has a "Main Captain." This "Main Captain" does literally nothing to run or maintain the site at all. Furthermore, if someone paid for adspace, the host that received the money must allow the purchasing party to use said adspace for the allotted time, no matter what they advertise, or the host faces legal penalties. And last but not least, the President has better things to do than slap laws on wikis. It also escapes Chris's mind that the President doesn't make laws. He would have had a better chance if he had mailed his congressman. He of course, will never bother.

This attitude is also reflected on his relationship with [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. [[2003|Years ago]], she interrupted Chris in what looked like [[Love Quest#Conflicts with Mary Lee Walsh|soliciting for sex]]. [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|Hilarity ensued]] and Chris received a well-deserved [[Autism papers|time-out]] for [[Chris and anger|his antics]]. Fast-forward in [[2009]] when Chris, out of the blue decides to make peace. He went to her office and left her a [[:File:Apology to Mary Lee.jpg|"Framed Hand-Drawn Apology"]] on her doorstep.<ref>[[One Blessing, and One Curse|out of the blue]]</ref> Knowing Chris's attitude, she filled a trespassing notice. In pure [[Autism|autistic]] logic, Chris said that since he didn't read the letter and returned it to the sender, he's not liable.<ref>[[Mailbag 26]]</ref>

[[Mailbag 55]] posits a few more original laws: one, that it should be illegal for [[JERKS|men]] to ever show their [[Reldnahc|bare chest]] (because, according to Chris, no one in the entire world ever wants to see a man's bare chest, disregarding [[women]], [[Homos|gay men]] and boxing enthusiasts), and two he wants to [[Women's rights|force all women]] in any kind of relationship to wear rings, thus defeating all symbolism and significance of them.

Due to Chris being forced away from the Internet, Chris began to formulate a new law, the "Bill for Anti Online Bad-Mouthing," starting with his second [[Flipnote Hatena|Flipnote]], [[Don'tGetTrolled!]]. What this entails is unknown, but by the sounds if it, he wishes for a law where no one can ever speak up against anyone in a negative tone, thus allowing Chris to continue to have his e-peen stroked while the trolls can't touch him. While there have been laws that punish those that lead to others being harmed via the Internet, the Bill for Anti Online Bad-Mouthing is one of the most ridiculous ideas ever, as it leads to a complete and utter smashing of the [[Wikipedia:Bill of Rights|Bill of Rights]], specifically [[Wikipedia:Freedom of Speech|Freedom of Speech]].

TL;DR: Chris ignores the law when it's inconvenient, yet expects it to save the day when the [[Autism]] card doesn't work.

==In the comic==
Chris's understanding of the law in his comics goes so far as to been seen as a mixture of childish tendencies and, some might say, authoritarianism. In [[CWCville]], Chris has banned a number of things in his city. [[Tobacky|Smoking]] or drinking [[alcohol]] would lead one to be either sentenced to ten years in prison or a much more lenient US$1,500 fine (although, as [[CWCville]] uses C-Quarters and W-Quarters for currency, it's not clear why fines are levied in US dollars).<ref name="Chris Chan Q&A 27 October 2008">[[Chris Chan Q&A 27 October 2008]]</ref> Indeed, importing tobacco or alcohol is the most serious crime in the city, apparently receiving a greater punishment than murder or rape.<ref name="Chris Chan Q&A 27 October 2008"/> However, it should be noted that Chris [[Rollin' and Trollin'|repealed the law against alcohol]] in [[June 2009]].

The Rosechus tend to fight for [[women's rights]], that is to say, the ability to strip naked whenever and wherever they want to, not to mention the fact that full legal rights for women are already established across the US, suggesting that Chris (or one of his predecessors) has imposed discriminating laws against women in CWCville.

Chris has been seen as a do-nothing Mayor, preferring to have [[Allison Amber|his secretary]] do all the work (as per his thoughts on women) while he goes off on another one of his sweetheart searches. He has mandated "[[dating education|Dating Education]]" classes for students so that they can learn to go on dates, as well as how to "stay straight."

[[List_of_Sonichu_characters#Constables_Gerald_Grant_and_Louis_Perez|Actual police officers]] did not appear until [[Sonichu 10|quite late]] and even then, they did nothing whatsoever, giving the impression that Chris and his [[Pokémon]] abominations are the only thing standing between peace and eternal virgins with rage. However, [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu #9'']] seems to reveal that there are three sets of "other" protectors: a (possibly) nondescript police force (distinct from [[Mary Lee Walsh]]'s [[jerkops]]), as well as his own team of [[Power Rangers]] and a team of [[Transformers]].

{{quote|Is CWCville under Martial Law?|[[Jack Thaddeus]] citing the truth as he sees it}}

It gets even scarier. In conversation with [[Jack Thaddeus]], he revealed that CWCville is the home of a paramilitary force equipped with tanks which he uses as a "Police Force", and all his [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] enjoy immunity from prosecution and are above the law.<ref>[[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 3]]</ref> If we add all this to the fact that there are no free elections in CWCville, this shows us the city in the hands of an insane, tyrannical dictator running it with an iron fist, and backed with super-powered goons who are free to do any atrocity with impunity. According to Chris, [[Magi-Chan]] mentally scans the city perimeters for any sexual acts, and reports any [[homos|homosexual]] activity to the authorities. The participants are then "tried and fined HEAVILY; $500 or 50 Hours of Community Service."<ref>[[Mailbag 31#Magi-Chan knows when you fuck]]</ref> Apparently in CWCville, the [[Wikipedia:Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution|Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution]] does not apply in matters of personal sexual choice, and neither does the [[wikipedia:Lawrence v. Texas|U.S. Supreme Court ruling]] finding sodomy laws to be unconstitutional.

In a strange [[Chris and hypocrisy|set of double standards]], Chris has been shown to injure, kill, or damage people and property ''outside of CWCVille''. [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu #10'']] has shown no less than four grievous acts upon others: the destruction of the [[4-cent garbage]] building, the murder of over one hundred alleged "trolls" in said destruction, breaking and entering, and destroying Internet files and property. There was no evidence to suggest that this act of mass murder was even investigated by the authorities, and the comic portrays this act of [[Twin Falling Towers|terrorism]] as Chris and his goons heroically defeating a gang of criminals.

Following the death of [[Simonla]], the culprits ([[Alec]], [[Mao]], [[Sean]] and [[Evan]]) are subjected to a show trial, and given no defense attorney by the state (violating the [[Wikipedia:Sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution|Sixth Amendment]]) forcing Sean to act as their lawyer despite being [[Tobacky|high as a kite]]. There is no solid evidence presented for the murder charge, aside from the Voltorb remote (which the prosecutor never tried to prove belonged to them) and wholly unreliable "psychic evidence" extracted by Magi-Chan. When they're railroaded and found guilty, they're ''killed by the people they've wronged'' (read: murdered brutally by cartoon characters), in a gross violation of the [[Wikipedia:Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution|Eighth Amendment]] forbidding cruel and unusual punishment.

Demonstrating Chris's limited understanding of trials (as his knowledge of trials stems purely from television), the kangaroo court integrates both elements of civil and criminal trials. The Asperpedia Four are not only prosecuted for murder by a [[Marvey Blaziken|state attorney]], as per a criminal trial, but also charged with defamation of character, libel, and copyright infringement (as well as several charges such as "profanity to the max" that would hold no water in an actual court) by Chris and his cohorts, as per a civil trial. Surely enough, Chris, Sonichu, and Rosechu are sitting in a bench marked "PLAINTIF" [sic]. That both civil and criminal charges are included in one trial not only demonstrates a poor understanding of the courtroom process, but is further proof that Chris considers "slanderous mockeries" and other torts on par with major crimes such as murder and assault. To add to the equation, one cannot be given a death sentence (or any sentence, for that matter) for being guilty in a civil trial, but in the Asperpedia Four trial civil charges are the primary reason for the death sentence. In summary, the CWCville court system is a constitutional nightmare that violates multiple articles and amendments, and has no concept of due process. One must wonder why it is allowed to exist within the borders of the U.S.

tl;dr: Any semblance of law in CWCville exists solely to further the wishes of its tyrannical (and murderous) Mayor.

== Sources ==
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==See also==
*[[Parody]]
*[[Jerkop]]
*[[Manajerk]]
*[[Chris and copyright]]

{{Chris and}}

Chris and money

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[[File:Cwcshutup.png|thumb|Chris's response to literally any commercial.]]
{{quote|He's not good at math when it comes to managing money.|[[Bob Chandler]]<ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript]]</ref>}}

Chris has repeatedly shown though his actions and words that he has no idea how to handle money or manage his own finances. Between his impulse spending, [[Chris and his Ego|his greed and selfishness]], his unwillingness to save even the smallest amount of money, and his massive sense of entitlement, Chris manages to demonstrate complete incompetence and ineptitude in managing financial affairs. Chris has repeatedly amassed debt on credit cards, only to have his enabling parents bail him out multiple times. [[Monthly tugboat|Too lazy to work]], he refuses to make or follow any type of budget or financial plan, instead spending far beyond his means, and expecting others to pay off his accumulated debt for him. It is clear that [[Autism|Chris has no idea what financial responsibility is]] and that his enabling, delusional parents taught him nothing about how to handle finances while he was growing up. Irresponsible, careless, and thoughtless, Chris fails at just about every aspect of financial competence that can be thought of.

==But wait, Chris isn't employed!==

For the vast majority of Chris's "adult" life, his only source of income has been the [[monthly tugboat|"tugboat"]] that he receives from the U.S. federal government every month. In 2009, this payout was $809 a month, placing his annual income at $9,708. Chris's parents originally took $450 to pay for room and board;<ref name="Miyamoto" /> this payment was later increased to $565, and then to $580, after [[Bob]] paid off Chris's enormous credit card debt.<ref>[[Vivian Gee E-mails, 2009#8 December]]</ref><ref>[[Jackie Chat 8]]</ref>

{{quote|My father helped me get my Social Security set up; I get more a month than I could at a job. Yet with my impuslive shoppiness (mostly controable [sic]), I end up spending my side-money after I get it.|Chris, [[Chris and His Ego|completely deluded and taking pride in being a lazy bastard]].<ref name="Miyamoto">[[Miyamoto Saga]]</ref>}}

===Impulse Spending===

It's obvious that [[Chris]] has no grasp on the real value of '''money''', since he actively wastes as much of his [[monthly tugboat]] as possible on things like [[The Eye of Judgement|trading cards]], [[Officer Nasty|sex toys]], [[Duck|porn]], [[PS3|video games]], weekly lottery tickets<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 12]]</ref>, and, more recently, [[alcohol]], [[Kaka Makeup Basics|make-up]], [[Lego|toys]] and prostitutes. Also, while legislating as mayor of [[CWCville]], he equated 10 years in prison to a US$1,500 fine.<ref>[[Chris Chan Q&A 27 October 2008]]</ref> He also equated fifty hours of [[Wikipedia:Community service|community service]] to $500 (for any [[sex]]ual violations).<ref>[[Mailbag_31#Magi-Chan_knows_when_you_fuck]]</ref>

Chris is a self-admitted impulse buyer.<ref name="Miyamoto" /> His [[PSN]] account shows that he's never played more than half of the games he's bought. And yet, astoundingly, he's still gone out of his way to buy ''all'' available downloadable content for ''every'' single [[PS3]] game that he's ever purchased, and even for ''games he doesn't own'', and he also further promoted his Sony fanboyism by later buying a Sony LCD HDTV for his bedroom which likely costs about $1,000-$1,500. All the while, Chris bought his [[Chris and fashion|clothes]] at second-hand discount thrift stores. Usually, children are taught the value of money at a very young age - not in Chris's case, apparently.

===Parental Enabling===

[[Bob Chandler|Chris's father]] encouraged his son to remain unemployed, since he believed that Chris would earn more money from his monthly tugboat than he would have from getting a job. However, this assumption was and is inaccurate. Minimum wage in the state of [[Virginia]] is $7.25 an hour. If Chris were to somehow do a complete 180° on his life and begin working a full forty-hour week, his monthly payment before taxes and payment for room and board would be about $1,260: that's $15,100 annually. Subtracting the money he pays his mom every month to live , as well as the 5% tax his income range mandates in the state of Virginia, Chris could very likely be left with a ridiculous $8,000, which knowing Chris, would spent on yet more frivolities. Contrast this with the $2,748 Chris pulled in annually from the government after paying off his parents, and it becomes clear that Bob's encouragement came from either thinking Chris would lose his social security if employed (which he wouldn't) or the realization that his son is a failure.

A very likely explanation for Chris's reckless spending is that his coddling parents are at fault (to a degree at least). In addition to coddling him throughout his entire life, they managed to make sure that Chris has never felt the repercussions for his exorbitant spending by taking over paying Chris's credit card debt, regularly giving him about "$6 a day for small things", buying him [[List of restaurants|fast food]] on a daily basis, and continuing to let himself blow all his money on [[list of Chris's video games|frivolities]] and useless stuff, as opposed to essentials like [[Chris and health#Chris and hygiene|hygiene products]], [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|courses that could eventually help him onto the employment ladder]] or [[Chris and fashion|clothing that isn't unbelievably tacky]]. Whenever Chris manages to [[The GAMe PLACe|get himself into trouble]], he knows that Barb will come [[Matthew Noble call|running to his aid and defend him]] and dig him out of whatever mess he's managed to get himself into, even if it is clear that he [[Target|is in the wrong]]. This enabling is the most likely explanation (in addition to his [[autism|poor impulse control]]) for why Chris spends himself into debt as much as he does.

===Chris's Beliefs===

Chris believes that by receiving and spending his tugboat on useless shit, he is aiding the economy and paying for the tugboat of others.<ref>[[Mailbag 34#In which Chris fails economics forever]]</ref> Again, this demonstrates his idiocy since sales tax goes to the state government and these "tugboats" are paid with federal payroll tax. Apparently, this is too complex for Chris's autistic mind. Where Chris is hiding the printing press to afford this discretionary spending is unknown.

Interestingly enough, while he has no clue how to handle money, Chris has an unhealthy [[Chris and his Ego|fixation]] on his material possessions. In [[Vivitheg's AIM chat]], he stated that he did not want to sell any of his stuff, and in the [[Miyamoto Saga]], he refused to sell anything to help raise money for the trip to Redmond. His mother has served as a bad influence in both regards, as she would compulsively shop at Goodwill and compulsively hoard the purchases, which both wasted money and helped turn their house into a [[Destruction Of Chris's House|fire hazard]].

===Losing his Tugboat?===

With the possibility that he might have ended up in jail over the events of [[28 October 2011]], Chris's bad spending habits would have come back to haunt him. In jail, he wouldn't be able to collect his [[monthly tugboat]], and if a full year passed without him collecting his cheques, he would have to reapply for his welfare, something that would be a bit more difficult under the Obama administration, which doesn't look too kindly on social security due to the stress it causes to the overall economy,<ref>[http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/24/us/politics/financial-outlook-dims-for-social-security.html]</ref> and has even started measures to cut them down altogether.<ref>[http://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-winds-down-longer-benefits-152809517.html]</ref> That, combined with the costs associated with court appearances as well as the fact that the last surviving breadwinner, Barbara, may have also landed in jail, would have resulted in Chris being placed in very dire circumstances, something which [[Kacey|several]] [[Clyde Cash|trolls]] [[Kacey Call 1.5|have]] [[Mumble 4|tried]] and [[PlayStation Vita|failed]] to warn him about. Fortunately for him, he wasn't sentenced to jail, but the fact that he openly stated during his trial that his mother would pay his court fees is telling of both [[White_knight#Autism_does_not_excuse_a_terrible_person|his character]] and his financial situation.

However, it seems that even this has not given Chris pause, as he got himself into legal trouble [[GameStop Assault|again]]. Since he is both a repeat offender and financially drained after his last court hearing, it seems very unlikely that Chris will get off with a slap on the wrist this time, which means that he is once again in danger of losing his tugboat.

===2012 to Present Time===

It is worth noting that despite all of the circumstances ''(and expenses)'' described above, Chris is still wasting money on video games, as evidenced by his playing of ''Rock Band Blitz'' on the PSN, which was released in August 2012, pretty much cementing that even when faced with the consequences of bad spending habits, Chris [[Autism|will learn absolutely nothing.]]

In September [[2013]], Chris complained about he and his mom going through "emotionally depressing, and Financial Downfall to the depths of Greatly Poor and Just Getting By"<ref>[[Facebook]]</ref>, making it clear that the family income had dipped since Bob's passing. However, these supposedly dire straits were not enough to make Chris think about getting a job or stopping buying vidya, obviously, as evidenced by him racking up over $1000 in game purchases over that time period.

In January [[2014]], [[Destruction_Of_Chris's_House|14 Branchland Court burnt down]]. This would undoubtedly place the Chandlers in grim circumstances, due to the costs of rebuilding the home and replacing what was lost. Many, concerned about Chris due to his wasteful spending habits, hoped that this would be the moment in Chris's life where he finally woke up and realized the importance of saving when things like this happen. Unfortunately, not even ''this'' has given Chris pause - he apparently purchased ''The Lego Movie Video Game'' for his PS3 in February ''(however, it should be noted that due to a huge inflow of troll remorse, it's entirely possible that the game was a donation....or at least it was until it was [[March_2014_Facebook_Posts#Rumour|confirmed that he did indeed buy it himself]].)'' At this point, only time will tell.

In the months that followed, Chris has resorted to begging online for money, placing extra emphasis on ''"My mother and I really need the money,"'' despite dropping nearly 5K solely on expensive [[Lego]] sets to feed his worsening addiction. One would think that Chris would have wisened up to the fact that his wanton spending and lack of gainful employment are contributing to his woes, [[May_2014_Facebook_Posts|but one glance at his May 2014 posts]] could easily tell you that he's seeing his situation as an avenue to get stuff from people ''(the most ridiculous of which being a "$300 Sea Cow" on his wish list, which would not benefit anybody but himself in the slightest.)'' He has also attempted to sell [[Original_Sonichu_and_Rosechu_Drawing|an original art piece of his]] on eBay ''(logical, though sorely [[Chris_and_art|misguided]]).''

==Credit cards==
As surprising as it is that Chris has his own credit cards, it is equally unsurprising how unwisely he uses them. As of [[February 2009]], Chris had managed to rack up $2,000 worth of debt (at the time of [[Mumble 4]], $1,000 of that sum came from the [[PSN]] store, but his bill for PSN downloads increased by the day) and had even stolen his parents' credit cards to use when his own were maxed out. According to an [[Vivian Gee E-mails 2|e-mail Chris sent to Vivian Gee]], by [[January 2010]] his debt was around $3,500 and had apparently been higher at some point in the intervening time.

By that point, Chris's debt had gotten so out of hand, that [[Bob Chandler]] was forced to step in, making Chris reduce and manage on his spending, and making Chris make regular payments to pay off his outstanding debt. Chris, thoughtless and uninterested in the fact that unpaid credit-card debt accrues severe interest, had historically made payments in the smallest installments possible.

Chris provided some more details about this situation in his [[Jackie E-mails 6|e-mails to Jackie]] from [[July 2010]]. At some point, Bob paid off Chris's credit card debt and took payment in installments out of the [[monthly tugboat]] in compensation. This act of parental financial enabling allowed Chris to avoid the immediate consequences of his financial irresponsibility, and resulted in Chris learning nothing about how to manage his own finances, reinforcing Chris's attitude that [[Chris and his ego|he should be able to do anything that he wants and not suffer any negative consequences]].

=== Best Buy Mastercard ===

Not surprisingly, it only took Chris a few short months to land himself in more financial trouble. In the [[Matthew Noble call]], Bob himself revealed that Chris had not only acquired a MasterCard charge account through [[Best Buy]], but as of the second week of [[August 2010]], Chris had somehow used it to land himself in yet more debt and had been laden with fees for bouncing a card payment. Bob, delusional and in the throes of some sort of conspiracy paranoia involving the staff and patrons of [[the GAMe PLACe]], claimed that it was most likely [[Michael Snyder]] who had hacked Chris's credit card and checking accounts, though why someone who's been on a manager's salary for several years would bother stealing from Chris is unknown. Also unknown is why ''any'' financial institution would give Chris a line of credit at this point.

Bob continued that the resulting transactions may have ruined Chris's credit rating (though that ship has ''long'' since sailed), and, in a disturbingly Chris-like fashion, seemed to use this damning information to try to make Chris's latest brush with the [[Chris and the Law|law]] seem "petty" in comparison.

There are three possibilities as to what actually occurred (from least to most likely):
* [[Troll]]s achieved this new pinnacle of fucking with Chris and didn't bother bragging about it on some forum or another.
* Some regular criminal's credit card fraud scheme, just by chance, happened to hit Chris.
* Chris blew whatever little credit that Best Buy had foolishly given him; he mistakenly attempted to pay off the card with funds from his checking account that weren't there; and then he blamed his debt on trolls, in another transparent attempt to avoid responsibility.

===Revelations to Jackie===

One of Chris's [[Jackie E-mails 7|e-mails to Jackie]] reveals that Chris acquired the Best Buy charge card without his parents' permission: he only told them about it after receiving two bounced check fees that showed up on his bank statement, which his father was actively monitoring. In true Chris fashion, he tried to pay the minimum balance each month. When he was forced to reveal the debt to his parents, Bob was obviously less than thrilled. He promptly took control of Chris's bank account as well as his credit cards. From that point until Bob's death, he received only an allowance in the form of Visa gift cards, leaving him unable to accrue any more debt for a short time. At the time, the prospect of not being able to blow his welfare on frivolities [[Jackie E-mails 8|stressed him out]].

Curiously, even in his private communications with [[Jackie]], Chris claimed that the overdraft fees that gave away the existence of the card to Bob were the work of trolls. Elsewhere in their conversations, however, he recounts other instances of "getting carried away" and accidentally overdrawing his bank account, suggesting that he was just using the trolls as a handy scapegoat for his own mistakes.

After Bob's passing, Chris once again resumed his thoughtless spending, completely disregarding and forsaking any hopes that his father had had of Chris becoming financially responsible or independent. Chris's acquisition of the [[PlayStation Vita]] and over 600 dollars worth of video games for that system were proof that Chris had regained control of his money after Bob's death and resumed tossing it away like it was nothing.

==2014==
===June===

Unverified information on Chris's credit card debt was leaked on the CWCki Forums on June 4th, 2014. It was revealed that Chris had at least five active credit cards, with at least $7600 in combined credit limit. Of the five known active cards, at least four were revealed to be maxed out, with at least $7400 in unpaid debt between the five cards. It was estimated that the minimum payment on Chris's known debt was at least $220 a month, and it was revealed that the only reason that Chris had been able to obtain the credit that he had was that, historically, he had almost always at least paid the minimum payment each month, although it was implied that he rarely if ever paid more than the minimum.<ref>[http://cwckiforums.com/threads/chris-and-his-finances-an-in-depth-review-of-his-debt.3809/ CWCki Forums: "Chris and his finances: An in-depth review of his debt"]</ref>

Given the Chandlers' financial situation as of June 2014, with most of Chris's tugboat going to help pay essential household expenses, it seems very unlikely that Chris has the financial resources to even pay off a small portion of his known debt, straining to make the monthly minimums each month. In response to his looming debt, instead of seeking financial consulting or trying to get a paying job, [[Chris and his Ego|Chris demanded massive monetary donations on Facebook]], and sought exorbitant prices for his [[Original Sonichu and Rosechu Drawing|crude artwork]] that he was selling on eBay.

===September===
Throughout the summer of 2014, Chris continued to spend thousands of dollars on [[Lego]] and other frivolities, all while whining and complaining on Facebook about his and his mother's poor finances. Chris financed this spending primarily with money from selling custom arts and crafts on his eBay account. Offering free shipping to customers, Chris would receive money from customers, and then pay for shipping out of his own pocket. However, Chris would immediately spend money as soon as it was deposited into his account, often leaving him unable to ship products to customers who had already paid him because of his own financial irresponsibility and negligence.

When several of Chris's eBay customers filed complaints against him because Chris failed to ship a order as promised and obligated, Chris responded by harassing and trolling the customers, posting their personal information in a public post on his Facebook account. In light of this, Chris's future money making prospects from eBay are dim, as most prospective future customers probably wouldn't want to risk being harassed or scammed by Chris.

All the while, even as Chris's credit card debt continued to spiral out of control, Chris continued to buy thousands of dollars of video games, Lego, and other frivolities. As if this were not bad enough, just days after putting his and Barb's cars up for sale, (at exorbitant prices) Chris went out and bought a 2010 Ford Focus, stating on Facebook that he had been approved for a loan, probably at a high interest rate.

Chris also stated that paying for insurance on his new car was "killing" him, implying that either the insurance payment was costly, that he was having trouble paying it, or both. It was commonly speculated on the [[CWCki Forums]] that Chris and his mother would be unable to afford to keep the car and that it would be repossessed in the near future.

Chris placed two cars for sale on Craigslist in September 2014. One was a dilapidated, rusty 1997 Cadillac with a cracked engine block that hadn't run in over a year. Despite having a market value (as scrap) of approximately $150, Chris demanded $5,000 for the automobile, insisting that the cracked engine block made the car a great "fixer upper". Chris also placed his mother's BMW Z3 for sale, demanding $15,000 for a car that had a book value of approximately $3,000.

As of 2014, Chris continued his foolish behaviors of maxing out all his available credit, paying only the minimums on all his loans/debts, immediately spending money as soon as he got it, and making large, impulse purchases on unrealistic assumptions of future sales and income from various sources. (eBay, car sales, etc) Evidently, even after years of financial hardship, being burdened with debt, and paying a cumulative total of thousands of dollars in interest, Chris has apparently learned nothing about handling his personal finances, and refuses to try to live within the means provided to him by his monthly tugboat.

One dreads to imagine how his financial incompetence will affect him once Barb is dead - knowing Chris, and while it is quite tragic, he'll probably continue in his destructive spending patterns until he loses everything he has, and even then, he'll [[Ego|learn nothing]].

==In the comic==

[[File:Cwccash.jpg|thumb|250px|[[CWCville]] currency.]]
In [[Sonichu (comic)|the comic]] it is clear Chris has no idea how money works. [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]], [[Rosechu]], [[Patti-Chan]], and most likely all of the other characters live off welfare, just like Chris IRL. He seems to have no concept of tax, or that it's the [[United States of America|American]] populace who pay for his [[Kimmi|bullshit]]. Sonichu and Rosechu are living in a two-story house with an attic offered by the city and they are [[Mailbag 21#Home economics|"paid" in average]] of US$3,500 a month just to hang around. And maybe for the occasional [[Sonichu 9|city defense]] or [[A Sonichu Day|errand]].<ref>[[Mailbag 21#Home economics]]</ref>

In [[Sonichu 9|Episode 19]], it's shown that CWCVille actually issues its own currency, in the form of C-Quarters and W-Quarters. Ten C-Quarters make up a W-Quarter - don't bother asking how that makes sense in any way, considering [[honor roll|what the word "quarter" means]]. (Our best guess: C-Quarters = US$0.25, W-Quarters = US$2.50) Nor does it explain why fines are levied in U.S. dollars: perhaps to bolster the dictatorship's foreign currency reserves, ''à la'' [[Wikipedia:North Korea|North Korea]].

This makes even less sense considering [[CWCVille]] is part of the [[United States]]; states, let alone cities, cannot print their own money, despite holding considerable power over their own affairs. The Constitution expressly forbids anyone else other than the federal government from issuing currency. Granted, states have historically issued their own money - when they were colonies and during difficult times, such as the Revolutionary War. [[Chris]] being Chris, and likely reading [[Goosebumps]] instead of paying attention in class, missed out on this information.

On the [[CWCipedia]] article on Sonichu, Chris wrote that [[Rosechu]] is usually the one who cooks for her family, but when Sonichu cooks for his wife and [[Sonichu and Rosechu's children|kids]] he "will go as HIGH in portions as a Banquet", even though he only cooks for five individuals.<ref name=>[[CWCipedia]] on [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu#Married Life and Children Sonichu]</ref> This suggest that Sonichu is just as frivolous with money as his father.

===Soup hotels===

Chris shows us his complete misunderstanding of the stress his ideas would put on the American [[Wikipedia:Social Security (United States)|Social Security]] system if he was left in charge of it in a text called "[[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas Story]]." This is where the idea of "Soup Hotels" came from.

{{quote|Even the homeless have a place to stay in the ten Soup Kitchens/Hotels.|Chris with a very bad idea [http://leoweekly.com/news/left-wayside that has come to fruition in one American city...]}}

Chris depicts "Soup Hotels" as buildings ten stories tall with between ten and twenty rooms per floor, equipped with single bathrooms, bed, lighting and cable TV.<ref>[[Mailbag 20#This still implies that CWCville has a massive homeless problem]]</ref> Of course, the homeless stay there for free. So, instead of building homeless shelters with dormitories, common rooms, and shared TV sets, Chris thinks the homeless should be treated to all the comforts of a ''bona fide'' hotel. This means that, in [[CWCville]], there are around 1,500 homeless people left outside. This might be the result of the local industry, choked by heavy taxes needed to pay those social expenses, being unable to make a profit there and thus moving away.

In [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], [[Ultra Sonichu]] and a bevy of [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechus]] stop at a soup hotel. The building is labeled Soup Hotel 17, implying that [[CWCville]] has had to open at least seven new homeless shelters in the span of a month, or they're just bad at numbering the things. Or more tellingly, that the economy of CWCville is crashing to the ground, fast.

==In other works==

In [[Mailbag 29#In which Chris loses his mind|Mailbag 29]] he stated that $10 an hour is a reasonable price to pay for sex with a prostitute. To show his further ignorance of simple economics, Chris proposed a chain of state-run brothels where this shockingly inexpensive fee would not only pay women for sex, pay the salary of a pimp, pay for STD testing for the prostitutes, but would also pay for free [[Dating education|Sex Ed classes]] for [[virgin]]s.

In real life, according to Chris, he tried to scam his way out of paying for sex with a Craigslist [[Chris and sex#Prostitution|prostitute]] who was charging $100 per hour by telling her about the trolls, his life story, and his many personal problems. The prostitute hung up on him according to him.

In late [[October 2011]], Chris posted a Craigslist ad for a 12-year old 32" CRT television and expected a non-negotiable $250 for it;<ref>[[Craigslist#Television]]</ref> in reality, this is about the price of a new flatscreen HDTV of that size, and he would be lucky to get a tenth of his asking price.

Chris also proves us that, in the possibility of being part of a family, he wouldn't be the main purveyor. In the [[PlayingHouse]] video, his [[sweetheart]] of [[Jackie|the moment]] is portrayed as a successful journalist with high ambitions while he's a [[14 Branchland Court|stay at home]] Dad. Even then, he portrays himself doing "hard work" like [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|changing diapers]] and watching over the kids. In this last role, he's so incompetent that he needs to recruit his [[Crystal|preschool daughter]] to watch over [[Reginald Chandler|his son]] while he's shopping. This is paralleled by his real life situation - with [[Bob]] gone, one would assume that he'd be the "man of the house" and assume some responsibility for once. Unfortunately, as evidenced by his [[This is how the Trial went|admission in court,]] Barb is still pulling his ass out of any such concept by paying his court fees. Keep in mind that, by extension, Chris is being minded by an ailing woman's retirement money which was used to bail him out of a mess that ''he'' started, while he wastes his own money on meaningless frivolities.

== On TV ==
In [[Mumble 6]], Chris discussed making a TV show called ''The Chris Chandler Show''. One of his demands was the show should not have any commercial breaks, either showing a distinct lack of understanding as to how a TV station makes money, or perhaps he plans to sell the advertising fees to a single company so that they can play a long ad in the beginning of the air time and leave the rest of the show uninterrupted, ''à-la'' the season premieres of [[wikipedia:24 (TV Series)|''24'']]. We cannot know for sure, but he has probably seen at least one show that has done this, and gathered the idea from there.

== Conclusion ==

Given Chris's carefree abandon when it comes to his spending habits, many are actually concerned as to what will happen to Chris when Barb passes on and he has to fend for himself. If past (and present) experiences are any indication, it's that if Chris continues on his path of not saving his money and spending it on frivolous crap that he doesn't need, he'll wind up broke and in severe debt. A [[Mumble_4|past conversation]] with [[Clyde Cash]] revealed that he doesn't even know the basic expenses that go into running a household, and we all know how Chris's plan of [[PlayingHouse|marrying a sweetheart to dump all of the financial responsibilities on her]] will [[Sweetheart#Will_Chris_ever_have_a_Sweetheart.3F|turn out.]]

Long story short, if Chris doesn't start saving for his future now, then when Barb finally passes on, he won't have one to look forward to. And he'll have nobody to blame but himself. ''(Not that he won't try, of course.)''

==See also==
*[[Monthly tugboat]]

== Sources ==
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{{Chris and}}

Talk:OkCupid

2014-12-29T14:27:05Z

The World Is Yours: /* Level up updates */

http://www.mediafire.com/?t4jdiltezzn

I've known about it for a while. I kept an eye on it. It turns out, Chris did change his profile quite a lot. It started off fairly...simple and then certain lines were added. Also, through an exploit, I managed to see Chris's answered questions that were private. Here's the legend for the questions:
*Underlined (doesn't have to be green) means YOUR ANSWER (chris's)
*Green means WHAT YOU WANT IN A PARTNER
*also the importance is important too.

[[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 17:54, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

*Hot damn.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 19:31, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

*Might also be worth noting that he used the same picture he previously used in his hookcafe ad. Perhaps this is his new promotional image he is trying to use, thinking it in someway makes him look mature --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 20:40, 9 May 2010 (EST)
:*This picture is the one that brought him a positive hit. Chris is not learning, he's reacting. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 04:59, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

== 7 Versions, huh? ==

And I guess we should cover all of them? This page is going to be enormous.

I am going to suggest right now that we get some collapsible sections up in DIS BITCH or else this thing is gonna be a nightmare.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 23:37, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

well, the changes between versions is that he usually adds a line or removes on. i'm not even sure of each version has a change. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 00:31, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:Well I stuffed shit. What do you think?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 01:05, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:*I think I want you, Beat. Bad. <3 --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 01:32, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
::*You only want me for my body.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:01, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:::*Your sexy, sexy body. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 05:07, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

== Spanish up in dis bitch. ==

So... who speaks Spanish? Because I don't. I do, however, know how to dump shit into Google translate. That said, given my hilarious experiences messing around with babble fish, I'm not sure which butcheries of language are Chris's and which are Google's. Regardless, it's pretty awful.

Past the whole "Evidence Chris sucks ass at Spanish" thing there doesn't seem to be any real substance to his Spanish babbling. It's all just a repeat of his about me text.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 21:18, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

== he's still at it ==

http://www.okcupid.com/profile/ChrisCSonichu

slightly updated. check for diffs. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 06:25, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

* From what I've seen, he added a new line after his Spanish "translation" and there's a new section, "What I'm Looking For". I'll try to add in the new additions.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 06:52, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
::another: http://www.okcupid.com/profile/cwchandler --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 01:06, 29 September 2010 (PDT)

== Going to throw up ==
Sex after the first date....WTF....NO

Who gave him the idea that it takes 3 dates to have sex after 3rd one? [[User:BabyNeko|BabyNeko]]

:The 3-date thing is a common rule of thumb that Chris could have picked up anywhere. IMO, the first date thing is probably more realistic and more in line with [[:File:Punchyfeedslayla.jpg|what Chris had in mind]]. Please don't A-Log. Clearly, [[2014 Anonymous Sweetheart|some women]] like him. -[[User:AReasonableMan|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan|talk]]) 02:49, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

== Guess who is back? ==
[[image:cwcokc072010.jpg]]
:He returned to his old profile? Okay, weird.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:52, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
::Sratch that. It's pretty obvious some intrepid troll hacked his account. No way Chris would say shit like that.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:55, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
::I did a double-take and realize that it is indeed a fake. Sorry, broski [[User:Ash link|Ash link]] 05:41, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Test results ==

I'm fairly sure [http://www.okcupid.com/profile/ChrisCSonichu/tests this] reveals a lot about how Chris thinks of himself. For one, he's STRAIGHT!!! (he most likely took the test multiple times to get his desired result.) Second, he's an "asserter" on the Enneagram despite this being a total lie. In fact, his published result of an "Eight" means... [[wikipedia:Enneagram_of_Personality#Eights|well, see for yourself.]] Third, his preferred girl, "the hot friend", seems to indicate that his ideal mate is close to [[Sarah Hammer]] or [[Kellie Andes]]. Lastly, and possibly most importantly, his "lover style" is "romantic lover" but the analyses indicated much more than the stupid result: 76% [[rape|aggressiveness]], and only 55% [[ego|partner focus]] (which is actually UNDER the average).

Any intrepid statisticians, please try to parse his other results. Any others... well, I think his results are in for a copypasting. Thoughts? --[[User:SeventhBase|SeventhBase]] 06:01, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
:According to the stupid quiz metric, "The hot friend" is what pops up when you just indicate you want sexy, and don't answer conclusively on anything else. So yeah, that sounds like Chris alright.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 13:49, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

:: It's also important to note that his ennegram test was only 2 questions long --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 14:00, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

==Level up updates==
http://www.okcupid.com/profile/Levelupking

Take a look, everyone. It's used again, there's nothing but lesbian/tomgirlisms and he even changed the title to LevelUpQueen. That alone says to me that Chris was stupid enough too to become A-list.--[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 00:54, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

--I added the new LevelUpQueen profile. However, he has answered hundreds of new personality questions since this was last inputted on the CWCki. Last time, someone produced a program which allowed them to quickly tabulate the 1000+ questions. Some of these new ones are interesting, many dealing with the idea of an "open relationship." --asperhes

--I still think that "open relationship" notion still reeks of classic, hypocritical Chris. IE, HE wants the open relationship; I'm sure he expects his "heartsweet" to be 100% faithful, etc. That's vintage Chris.--[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 14:27, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Talk:OkCupid

2014-12-23T00:54:51Z

The World Is Yours:

Chris and negotiation

2014-12-22T14:27:52Z

The World Is Yours: Undo revision 176787 by Lysistrata (talk) I think it flows better as just "or", personally.

{{quote|[[THAT IS MY HOUSE|I'M WORKIN' ON IT!!!]]|Christian Weston Chandler on everything and anything}}

When dealing with [[Chris]], trolls often experience a unique form of '''negotiation'''. Due to a severe sense of [[Chris and his Ego|entitlement]], a [[Barbara Chandler|lifetime of coddling]] and [[autism|other factors beyond his control]], Christian Weston Chandler has no grasp of how to compromise, and often fails to understand what sort of bargaining position he's in.

Often, [[trolls]] blackmailing Chris will find him making demands of them, as if he were the one with leverage. Conversely, some have experienced the oddity of having Chris run away from a situation where he was purposely given the upper hand. When it comes to dealing with Chris directly, one can only expect that he will always take the path of least resistance, even if it doesn't benefit him.

==Concept of compromise==
Negotiation is based on compromise. Both parties must work together and make concessions to each other in order to find the best possible solution to their problems in a satisfactory manner. Chris doesn't understand this, and arguably ''cannot'' understand this, given his severely stunted ability to understand that other people have thoughts and feelings that differ from his own. Being completely ego-centric, Chris believes that, in any exchange, both parties must share the same viewpoint: his. Chris can't stand any form of prolonged confrontation and quickly tires if his demands aren't met exactly as he has made them.

On numerous occasions, Chris has tried to negotiate either by making ridiculous demands or outright refusing to give anything up (or do anything at all for that matter). After he makes his case, his mind is "closed on the matter" and he is unwilling to budge. When further pressed, he often shuts down completely and walks away from the table, into the waiting arms of his [[PS3|hugbox]].

==Examples of negotiation==
===Mary Lee Walsh===
One of the earliest examples of Chris's attempts at negotiations was after his expulsion from his [[PVCC|community college]]. In [[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004|emails]] between [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and himself, Chris was unapologetic about a violent outburst that he had had in their previous meeting. Instead of apologizing, Chris offered to "never hang notes on the wall again", and to consider "stopping my Silent Treatment" of Susan Hannifan, a PVCC Guidance Counselor.<ref>[http://www.pvcc.edu/counseling_services/disability_services.php]</ref> To further sweeten the deal, Chris offered to "knock[...] [Walsh] and Susan up my scale of Respect each by 2 points". Ignoring the horrible choice of words in regards to "knocking up" two of his female superiors, Chris believed that an imaginary measurement of his personal opinion was an extremely important bargaining chip. This is an example of how Chris behaves in negotiations where he wants something from another person - by offering minimal effort on his part, but expecting full returns from the other party.

===Miyamoto saga===
During the Nintendo saga, [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] stated that Chris must meet him at Nintendo's American headquarters in Redmond, Washington. Chris handled this by making a [[CWC Update 26 January 2009|video]] where he pretended to come back from Redmond, when he actually never left the house. Chris demanded that the CEO of an international company come to HIS house and meet with him. When Chris was pressed as to why the meeting had to be at his house, Chris said that he had no money. When he was asked why he had no money, he said he had no job. When he was asked why he didn't have a job, Chris made various excuses and cited his very brief employment at [[Wendy's]]. He also insulted Miyamoto, asking him "Are you the "Mario" who Plays Fair, or the "Bowser/Koopa" who Cheats and Lies?" This sort of "pass the buck" attitude is very common when dealing with Chris. Nothing negative can ever be his fault.

===[[Audiobooks]]===
In [[2009]], Chris came into contact with [[Vivian Gee]], a white knight who eventually turned troll. Vivian was very helpful to Chris at first, but Chris refused to hear any of her input. As a result, their relationship soured, and Vivian started a popular Sonichu parody audio book that Chris despised. [[4 September 2009|Chris ranted and raved]], demanding that audio books be removed. They were not, but one month later, Chris quickly changed his tune. After taking out a [[Chris and copyright|copyright]] on the [[Red Letter CWC Certified Day|NAME "Sonichu"]], Chris believed he now had magical copyright powers, and demanded that Vivian give him 25% of all the profits she'd made from the audiobooks (SPOILER ALERT: 25% of zero is zero). Suddenly, something that he had made death threats over, was not only welcome, but he was demanding to be part of it.

===Jack Thaddeus===
When Jack stole Chris's [[PSN]] accounts, Chris asked him "Why don't you come down to my house yourself in person, unless you are the cowardly weakling?" Jack had to remind him that he (Jack) held all the cards, and Chris was in no position to make demands.

===THAT IS MY HOUSE===
After his parents ordered that he remove all copies of his [[Tour of Chris's House|video tour of]] [[14 Branchland Court]] from the internet, Chris made [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|another video]] in which he made his own demand that all the copies of the tour which had been uploaded by [[trolls]] be taken down. Rather than calmly and politely explaining that the videos posed a threat to the safety of his family (which would likely have gotten at least ''some'' of the trolls to remove their copies, even if the vast majority wouldn't have given a damn), Chris loudly shrieks at the viewer like a child, and even turns his demands from being idiotic to being vaguely insulting by admitting it was his own fault for uploading the videos, then immediately threatening the trolls with "police and detectives" if they didn't immediately do as he asked.

===Sweetheart sagas===
Whenever Chris wants to meet one of his "[[sweethearts]]" in real life, he usually wants them to come to him, no matter how difficult such a trip would be. He wanted [[PandaHalo]] to come to him despite her living in Australia. He wanted [[Julie]] to come to him even though she was supposedly a poor immigrant who couldn't afford a car or bus fare. He wanted [[Kacey]] to come to him even though she lived in the D.C. area, which is an hour or so from Ruckersville.

One of the most recent sweethearts, [[Jackie e-mails|Jackie]], was willing to have a relationship with Chris as long as he tried to become a better person. Instead of trying to put more effort and try to better himself, he decided to end things.

During the Julie saga, Chris made a number of deals with [[Clyde Cash]] and [[The Miscreants]], all of which he reneged on:

*In the first deal, Chris agreed to do a video where he came out of the closet in order to save Julie's life. In the [[Captain's_Log,_Stardate_February_5th,_2009#Take_1|first take]], he called himself a "[[gaybian]]", which was done so that he could somehow say he was gay without actually calling himself gay. He did a [[Captain's_Log,_Stardate_February_5th,_2009#Take_2|second take]] where he clearly stated that he was being forced to say he was gay. When he actually did call himself a homosexual, he mumbled it and stated he was "guhhhhh".

*The second deal was that Chris would clean his room in order to save Julie's life and that he would do a video in order to prove it was clean. In order to avoid actually having to clean his room, he merely pushed some of his stuff aside and filmed his floor for 30 seconds before he did his [[Captain's Log, Stardate February 10th, 2009|Captain's Log]].

*The final deal resulted in the infamous [[Julie Reveals Herself]] call. [[BlueSpike]], as both Julie and her kid brother Max, had gained access to Chris's [[PSN]] account. In the guise of Max, he offered Chris an ultimatum: The PSN and Yahoo accounts or Julie. In a conversation before the call, Chris told Max that he chose Julie, believing that, like in the movies and TV, he would get both back for "making the right choice". Right when "Max" put "Julie" on, Chris immediately asked "her" to get his PSN and Yahoo back. Failing that, he tried to guilt Max into giving it back to him. In the main call, Max gives Chris one last chance to change his choice. He sticks with Julie, despite the hold that his PSN account has over him. When Max threatened to sell his account on eBay, he revealed that he "made the right choice" and that he deserves his PSN.

===Chris, CWCipedia captain===
When he was given [[CWCipedia|his own wiki]] for free, he demanded complete executive control from day one. In Chris's mind this meant that every demand he made would be fulfilled by the staff, and that anything done without his permission would be removed immediately. He insisted on a gaudy background, and [[CWCipedia#Traitorous_mutiny|threatened to stop working]] whenever the [[Cogsdev|webmaster]] displeased him. Later, when [[Jack Thaddeus]] graciously paid for the CWCipedia's webspace with ads featuring homoerotic images, Chris went on a tirade and immediately demanded that they be taken down, yet refused to even consider paying for his own website. When removal failed, he said that he wanted them to be smaller, as if he had some say in how large advertisements were. Chris had no concept of how advertising worked, but merely assumed that he had the final say in everything.

Later, during the "popularity contest" between ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' and ''[[Asperchu]]'', he tried to make amends with [[Alec Benson Leary]] in an effort to remove ''Asperchu'' ads from the front page of the CWCipedia. However, instead of making reparations, Chris demanded that Alec tell his fans to go back to ''Sonichu''. Chris, who was in no position to make requests, attached several "clauses" to his apologies. In fact, Chris's list of demands was larger than the apology they were bundled with. All of this came after Chris drew a comic where he broke into Alec's house, stole a dating game from his [[Xbox]] 360, blew up said Xbox, and freed a group of [[Rosechus]] that he implied were the victims of sexual abuse. After finally fulfilling most of Alec's requests in a substandard and slapdash manner, Chris killed him, his webmaster and two other comic artists in [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]] as some sort of childish form of revenge.

===PlayStation 3===
Often, trolls will gain access to Chris's PSN, and make various demands. The most common of these demands is that he sell or throw out some of his beloved toys or games. Despite his claims that he plays with everything in his room, a quick glance at his PSN account shows otherwise. Most of his PSN activity is divided between ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]'', ''[[God of War]] 3'' and ''[[ModNation Racers]]'', which leaves most of his [[List of Chris's games|vast collection of games]] untouched. Even though he doesn't use the majority of the toys and games he owns, he refuses to sell them. This refusal is usually followed up by him saying that he doesn't have the money to do something that would improve his life.

Between late [[August 2010]] and early [[September 2010]], Chris was met with the opportunity (not really) of gaining $9,001 in exchange for the [[The MovingForward videos|destruction of]] [[ItIsFinished.MOV|his PS3]]. Needless to say, [[Clyde and Tito PS3 E-mails|it didn't go well]]. The bounty was only for trolls and was, in turn, fake. However, Chris tried to haggle (albeit ''very'' poorly) with [[Clyde Cash]] and [[Surfshack Tito (troll)|Surfshack Tito]] to get something that never existed. The ultimate result of this was Chris [[Charlottesville Fashion Square#Chris captured on video|actually waiting for his money at the Charlottesville Fashion Square]] after being tricked into going there. After realizing he had been tricked, he ended by telling them to "go point at your own damn snouts and Oink like [[South Park|Eric Cartman]], and then [[Rape]] yourselves with your own Damn [[Sex toys|Darth Maul Dual Light Saber]]."

===[[3DS Flipnote|Flipnote Studio on 3DS]]===
In one of Chris's many [[Flipnote Studio]] creations, he requests that Nintendo port the software to their 3DS platform. In typical Chris fashion, his animation consists of him [[Chris and anger|yelling loudly]] and demanding that Nintendo bring the software to the 3DS. Chris had sped his voice up to the point where it's hard to decipher what he's saying, but he assumes that being loud will get you what you want. Throughout the entire animation, his tone of voice and choice of words suggest that [[Chris and Ego|he's under the impression that he's some sort of spokesperson]] for all Flipnote users.

===[[Calling Out|Calling Out videos]]===
Returning to [[YouTube]] after an 8-month hiatus, Chris decided to confront two of his trolls, [[Surfshack Tito]] and [[Thorg]] over what they've done and demanding that Tito apologize to Sony over the hackings and to [[The Wallflower]] for "breaking them up", then give him [[Chris and money|$1000 US Dollars]], and telling Thorg to apologize for putting up pictures years ago and to put up a non-slanderous billboard saying that Chris IS STRAIGHT. He also wants them to remove all contributions to the [[CWCki]]. If these weren't done, he'd reveal their pictures and possible other dox and have the trolls troll them.

Unlike the incident involving [[Clyde Cash]] resulting in [[Twin Falling Towers|a very poorly made decision]], Chris honestly believes he has the upper hand and can finally pay back against some of his trolls. However, what he's doing isn't a negotiation, but an [[Chris and the Law|extortion]], expecting these goals to be completed or they were to suffer the consequences with Chris doing nothing on his part.

===His sales on [[eBay]] and [[Craigslist]]===
Chris's idea of salesmanship is interesting, to say the least. He attempts to sell mostly old, broken or worthless items, and tends to demand many times the item's actual value in exchange, often non-negotiably. An early example was his attempt to sell an ancient TV on Craigslist, demanding ''$250'' for a piece of junk he'd be lucky to sell for a tenth of that sum.

Since then, he has become a much more prolific e-merchant, and has whittled away [[2014]] charging thousands of dollars for his "[[art]]" on eBay, showing that he is still [[Chris and reality|delusional]] enough to [[Chris and his ego|vastly overestimate his own e-fame and artistic talent]]. Similarly, he tried to sell his late father's replica of a Stradivarius violin for almost ''$100,000'', as if [[Honor roll|he actually believed that a violin with a manufactured label saying was made in the 50s on its interior could be the real thing]]. Most recently, he has attempted to sell his and his mother's ancient, barely-functioning cars. Typical of Chris, he is demanding thousands of dollars for cars which are actually worth maybe a few hundred (as scrap).

Needless to say, most of Chris's merchandise either goes unsold, or he is forced to accept a more realistic price for it. We can only assume the rest is bought by his [[Trolls|most avid fans]] who [[Medallions#Obtaining medallions|glory in the opportunity to possess samples of his fine work]].

However, it's possible that Chris doesn't just ask for ridiculous prices in exchange for his [[DIRTY CRAPPED BRIEFS|shitty]] [[Medallions#Mark 2|possessions]] because he's taking his prospective buyers for [[Naive|fools]], but because [[Chris and money|he doesn't know the first thing about value]]. Consider his lavish spending sprees that clearly transcend his ability to fund them; his parents obviously taught him nothing about the value of money, which he thinks can be pissed away nonchalantly. He also struggles with measurement, as evidenced by his estimation of a 12-pack of canned lemonade weighing 50 pounds, a symptom of [[autism]], it's possible that his incompetence in this regard also extends to estimation of value.

The reality, however, could also be something much more sinister. It's possible that his extortionate prices for his goods aren't due to ignorance of value, but a symptom of his abject materialism and hoarding, inherited from [[Barb]]. It's possible that Chris is so attached to and obsessed with his material possessions that he seriously finds his ludicrous prices an acceptable consolation for him to have to give up part of his precious hoard.

==Chris's tactics==
===Ignoring reality===
When Chris is faced with a task requiring any effort on his part, or involves something that does not benefit him, he completely ignores it. Chris automatically disregards anything that will not benefit him immediately, or almost immediately. The hardest part of negotiating with Chris, is that, if you make a demand that he does not agree to, he shuts down. Like a spoiled infant, Chris will not even deal with something that isn't self-serving and easy.

On the other hand, when you have something Chris wants, Chris will not give up until he has acquired it, on his own terms. When the road to a reward has a sign that bluntly says Chris is not eligible, he will attempt to get the reward anyway, or claim that the rules are discriminatory and unfair. Chris will pursue his goal thoughtlessly and simplemindedly, often ignoring even the idea that he might not get what he wants. In the process, he frequently acts as if he has some sort of leverage even in situations where this is manifestly not the case — he continually made demands of the CWCipedia's administrators, for instance, despite the fact that they had full control over the website and he had none.

===Altering reality===
In some instances (the rare ones that he actually does what he was instructed to), anything said or done he feels slandered his good name he will simply state are lies and instruct everyone to ignore them, then will [[Mailbag 2|close his mind]] on the subject. This is retarded for two reasons. By telling his "fans" to ignore the lies, he is alerting "fans" that are a little behind on what's happening with Chris of their existence, making more people see them than would have if he didn't acknowledge them. He is also showing he is clearly aware of their existence, and still insisting they are lies.

===Delays===
When Chris has to meet a requirement during a negotiation (ESPECIALLY deadlines), he will explain that he is "working on it". To Chris, saying this is an acceptable substitute for actual work, whether or not he is indeed "working on it". If, in his own good time, Chris feels inclined to fulfill the deal, he'll submit whenever he wants to, regardless of the original agreement, well after the deadline. If the agreement was that he would receive something for the "work" done, he will demand it unceasingly, despite not holding up his end of the deal in any way, shape, or form.

Even if Chris somehow agrees to a set of terms, he will try to get around them. If he agrees to give something up for someone, he will go behind that person's back in order to get it back so that he could have both. If he agrees to draw a comic, he will most likely do something easier, like make a video or write a blog entry, figuring that that counts as work. If he agrees to willingly slander himself (like calling himself gay, for instance), he'll either mumble it so that it's incomprehensible, or he'll hide his face.

==References==
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{{Chris and}}

EBay

2014-12-17T00:30:58Z

The World Is Yours:

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[[Image:Etc_ebay_bid.PNG|thumb|A small overview of Chris's purchases on eBay.]]
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{{quote|Opened package and was attacked by rabid raccoon. DO NOT TRUST THIS SELLER!|Feedback from fallenfromgrace216 on Chris's eBay account}}
'''eBay''' is an online auction site frequented by [[Chris]]. He has often purchased and sold stuff there.

==Chris as a buyer==
Chris bought a lot of [[My Little Pony]]s from the site. His many eBay purchases helped Chris accumulate a debt of $2,000 on his credit card.

During the [[Megan Saga]], [[Megan]] often got Chris to buy her stuff — pictures of World War II [[CWCville|Wehrmacht]] soldiers, [[anime]] CDs, ''[[Sailor Moon]]'' paraphernalia — from eBay, probably because she didn't have a credit card herself. In an email from 2007, Megan revealed the nature of the transactions, offering to repay Chris with "cash and or unneeded goodies",<ref>[[Megan Emails, Jan-July 2007#Another email from the "Seriously Stop Fucking Touching Me" collection]]</ref> though it seems in some cases Chris would buy things as gifts for her.

According to his feedback history as of 31 [[March 2010]], he spent $12.97 on ''[[God of War]] III ''The Forgotten Warrior Skin Code for PS3 and $9.99 for a ''God of War III'' Apollo In Game Skin Code. On 1 September 2010, he spent ''thirty dollars'' on a [[ModNation Racers]] Ratchet & Clank Mod. To put that in perspective, he could have bought the PSP version of ''ModNation Racers'' with that money, which he already did.<ref name="cwc ebay feedback">[http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=jesusguidesme2&ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true eBay Feedback Profile for jesusguidesme2]</ref> The Ratchet & Clank Mod was later released on the [[PSN]] for merely $2.<ref>[http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/11/09/playstation-store-update-164/ PlayStation Store Update - PlayStation.Blog, 9 Nov 2010]</ref> Most recently, however, Chris purchased a ''Lego Friends'' promotional display stand for $30.<ref name="cwc ebay feedback"/> ''Lego Friends'' is a series of Lego aimed at pre-teen girls, as evidenced by its general kidiness and ease of assembly.

After being MIA on eBay for 2 years, he came back in late 2012 as a buyer. A new noteworthy feedback was the Skylanders Giants Wii Bundle Pack plus Bonus, which he sold for $165.

Immediately after listing and successfully selling various drawings (including the [[Original Sonichu and Rosechu Drawing]]) and multiple [[Autographed Photos|autographed photos]] in early July 2014, Chris bought several Lego minifig parts on eBay.<ref name="cwc ebay feedback"/>

==Chris as a seller==
[[Image:Meat.jpg|thumb|TRUE and HONEST ''[[Guitar Hero]]'' merchandise]]
[[Image:Gibson.jpg|thumb|left|Notice the wonderful pile of dishes. Who wouldn't want to buy something from this house?]]
[[Image:LeapsterPink.jpg|thumb|Chris auctioned off a [[Homos|pink]] Leapster similar to this one on August 13, 2008.]]
[[File:ChrisKreO.JPG|thumb|left|Chris tried to sell this for $65. Seriously.]]
[[Image:01June2014-Original eBay Drawing.jpg|thumb|"The main image for this sale was edited to prevent forgery during listing, but a sample of the color is the secondary photo."]]
[[File:WTJU Jazz MARATHON omot.jpg|thumb|"THE RADIO STATION GAVE ME FULL APPROVAL TO SELL THIS!!!"]]
Since late [[2008]], when the Chris-chan phenomenon became more widely known, people used Chris's eBay account as a means to troll him. They would bid on his auction, not pay, and then leave lulzy negative feedback.

Early in [[2009]], Chris tried to stop this form of trolling by changing his eBay name to "[[Chris and religion|jesusguidesme2]]", and deleting information from his account. It didn't work. The account had been dormant since [[September 2010]], but was active again as of [[August 2012]].

As of [[September 2009]], Chris, in a rare display of monetary wisdom, sold two of his awful [[Gitar of Fail|guitars.]] While not the autistic magnum opus we know as that [[Gitar of Fail]], the "[[Old Time Rock and Roll on Shredwud|Meatwad's Shredwad]]" shows off Chris's disregard for [[Parody|copyright]] and his fail art in one fell stroke. It's perfectly okay for Chris to sell his crappy fake ''[[Aqua Teen Hunger Force]]'' merch, but none of those slanderous [[trolls]] can do [[Chris and hypocrisy|''the exact same goddamn thing'']] with [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'']] products. He also sold his Gibson model controller, which was covered in stickers. Someone purchased both controllers for a ridiculous $90.99, plus $6 for shipping.

He also sold a [[Transformers|Bumblebee 2008 Concept Camaro]] claiming that it was unopened, which wasn't true.

In August 2008, Chris auctioned off a pink [[Wikipedia:LeapFrog Enterprises|LeapFrog]] [[Wikipedia:Leapster|Leapster]]. He received $29.99 for it. The Leapster is a handheld "educational" video game system marketed to children ages 4-10. This wasn't released until late [[2003]], so Chris was at least ''twenty-one'' when he bought it. He may have bought it because there was a [[Sonic the Hedgehog|''Sonic X'']] game available for the system. The game, which involves answering math problems to advance, is appropriate for 5-7 year olds.<ref>[http://www.leapfrog.com/en/families/leapster/leapster_learning/lg_sonic.html]</ref>

On 18 September 2013, Chris returned to eBay and tried to sell the "kre-o micro changers Series 1, 12 piece set complete" collection for $65.

On 28 May 2014, Chris posted on Facebook that he is selling a Antonio Stradivarius Violin/Fiddle that belonged to his deceased [[Bob Chandler|father]]. Chris stated that he and his mother desperately needed to sell this family heirloom for some quick cash, while at the same time Chris begs his friends and family for duplicates of expensive LEGO sets he lost in the house fire.

On 1 June 2014, Chris listed an [[Original Sonichu and Rosechu Drawing]], with bids reaching over $10,000 in the first day of listing. Chris offered to frame the drawing and ship it in bubble wrap, but ''"ONLY when the art is Bought Now for the full price"''. He also planned to draw another ''"Original fresh"'' piece of art to sell afterwards. The listing was taken down mysteriously the morning after, but then reappeared later that day. Over the span of eight days, Chris attempted to force this piece of "work" to be sold at an exuberant price, only for it to be taken down repeatedly, forcing eBay to temporarily [[List of places that have banned Chris|ban]] him.

On 1 July 2014, Chris listed [[Autographed Photos|autographed photos of himself]] for sale, at a price of $20 each. Chris offered to write personalized messages in addition to his autograph, as long as the requests are "Not Offensive". In the eBay Q&A for the listing, he approved [[Sonichu 4#Sub-Episode 7: Christian Chandler in "Off-Target"|"All that is down is only the floor"]] as a message, and indicated that he may possibly wear the [[Medallion of Fail|Sonichu medallion]] for an autographed photo. Unfortunately, he stated that his red and blue "The Classic" rugby shirt was lost to [[Destruction Of Chris's House|the January 2014 house fire]], so it would not be available for photos. As of 24 July 2014, the listing says that 58 photos have been sold.

Also on 1 July, Chris posted listings for [[Commissions|commissioned drawings]], in either black & white ($50), color ($100), or color with frame ($200). As of 24 July, 7 color drawings, 10 B&W drawings, and 0 framed drawings have been sold.

On 14 July, Chris listed CDs of the 1990 WTJU Jazz Marathon, which his dad hosted and which he has already made freely available through Facebook. The list price was $50, $10 of which Chris claimed would be donated to WTJU. [[Autism|Predictably]], the CD cover has [[Chris and his Ego|Sonichu]] and the words [[Chris and copyright|"(C) 2000 CWC" on it]]. eBay removed the listing, presumably over copyright infringement, and Chris angrily reposted the listing, claiming that he had permission from WTJU to sell it, which is somewhat irrelevant, and which WTJU later retracted.<ref>[http://cwckiforums.com/threads/wtju-charlottesville-radio-station-responds.4313/]</ref> Apparently, the CDs were only kept up because WTJU thought that Bob was a musician who did a set for the station and not a DJ. eBay then removed the listing a second time, but not before two hapless people had bought copies. Chris gave up on relisting the CDs and claimed he was unable to refund the buyers, but promised to ship each of them a color commissioned drawing, autographed photo, and complimentary CD instead.

In September 2014, Chris began mass-producing his famed [[Sonichu medallion|Sonichu medallions]] on eBay. One buyer was a [[CWCki Forums|forum]] member, herein referred to as "Mr. Smith". Chris told him the order would take two weeks, which Mr. Smith assumed meant for shipping. As it turns out, Chris intended to take two weeks just to begin creating the medallion. Mr. Smith then proceeded to file a complaint with eBay. Chris, a natural victim, repeatedly messaged the buyer, accusing him of being a "Cyber-bully", "troll", as well as a person who is "torturing a Lesbian and a Transgender, as well as an Autistic Individual." After Mr. Smith continued to open cases, he then proceeded to send him an "Angry Eyes Sonichu" medallion, leading to more complaints. Chris then attempted to make a deal, where he would send him a regular medallion plus a commission. Mr. Smith requested a picture of him and Sonichu--he later received a picture of him standing next to a door with an ice bucket on the top. This lead to eBay eventually locking his PayPal account to prevent funds from getting into it, leading Chris to begrudgingly make [[To Mr. Smith|a video apology]] for the whole situation. However, any possibility that Chris was legitimately remorseful was ruled improbable when he continued to complain about eBay fees and cases merely a few days later.

==See also==
*[[List of Chris's eBay sales]]

==References==
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==External links==
*[http://myworld.ebay.com/jesusguidesme2 Chris's account]
*[http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=jesusguidesme2&ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true His feedback]
*[http://www.mediafire.com/?kdhtoczdlxi Stuff Chris auctioned]

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Chris and death

2014-12-06T19:19:31Z

The World Is Yours: /* Chris himself (1982-) */ I had no idea what you were trying to write, so, I changed it.

[[Image:PattiLuv.jpg|thumb|Rest in peace?]]
{{Quote|Sometimes I remember her, but I have moved on.|Chris on the late [[PandaHalo]].<ref>[[Regina e-mails]]</ref>}}

'''Death''' is a concept that Chris has a notably hard time understanding and/or coping with, be it the death of a human or an [[Patti Chandler|animal]], or even a [[Simonla Rosechu|fictional character]].

His poor reactions to death most likely come from Chris's lack of empathy, and childish thought patterns. Children often don't understand death, usually just thinking it's "like sleeping forever" or "just leaving." Chris, being a child inside, can only resort to these clumsy analogies to understand death.

Here are the departed souls, in order from earliest to latest:

==Deaths==
===The sinking of the ''RMS Titanic'' (d. 1912)===
In [[Lars' Ship has Sunk.MOV]], Chris attempts to threaten [[Lars]] by destroying a [[Lego]] version of the Titanic.

===Every single victim of the World Trade Center attacks (d. 2001)===
In the [[Twin Falling Towers]] video of 1 [[November 2009]], Chris makes fun of [[Clyde]] and says that he is as weak as the [[Wikipedia:World Trade Center|Twin Towers]]. He then shows the mouse cursor crashing into the buildings, complete with sound effects.

===[[Patti Chandler]] (1988-2006)===
Patti was Chris's pet dog, and she died in June 2006. Chris apparently drew a picture of a crying Sonichu face on the signature confirming the euthanasia process.<ref>[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Eulogy_for_Patti&diff=4455&oldid=4454 Eulogy for Patti] on the [[CWCipedia]]</ref> As seen in the image used in this article, Patti also appeared in the comic, immortalized as a furry character named [[Patti-Chan]]. This is particularly disturbing in that Chris has apparently decided to deny his dog the afterlife that he presumably believes in in favor of locking her in his own [[CWCville|personal hell]].

To Chris, her death is the greatest tragedy of his life, which he often compares to the deaths of other people's family members and loved ones. Not surprisingly, every single person he has said this to has become horribly offended. In [[Chris's Plea to Clyde Cash]], he equates Ryan Cash's death with Patti's, and in the [[Father Call]], he equates the death of Matthew Devoria's mother in the 9/11 attacks.

Oddly enough, Patti may have been the only being Chris ever cared about. On the one year anniversary of her death, Chris even broke down in tears and had to be consoled by his mother.<ref>[[Megan emails, Jan-July 2007#Chris is sad about Patti]]</ref> By comparison, the "death" of any Sweetheart will result in a few days of mourning at best.

It should be noted though that despite all of Chris's fondness for Patti, her memory was still not safe from being [[It's not that cold|defiled by him]].

===RocketFox's Dad (1966-2008)===
RocketFox's Dad used to be an [[alcohol]]ic, but recovered and stayed sober for ten years. However, his liver failed and he passed away in mid-October 2008. When RocketFox asked Chris for advice on how to cope, Chris considered it an "accident" and went on a spiel about how bad alcohol was.<ref>[[IRC (16 October 2008)]]</ref> This is actually the first death during the [[troll]]ing, and it was mentioned to Chris to see how he would react to such news, and as mentioned, Chris did so poorly. [[Ryan]]'s death and Chris's reaction cemented this.

===[[Sarah Jackson]] (1981-2008)===
A former heartsweet of Chris (and Decepticon) who was killed in a carefully executed plan by [[Optimus Prime]]. Sarah Jackson, like Patti, was used in his comic for a while as "Ms. Jackaras" in [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]]. Unlike Patti, Ms. Jackaras gets the same fate as her non-comic counterpart, and is replaced by her sister, who continues the lesson anyway. None of the ''Sonichu'' characters mourn the loss of their professor.

===[[Ryan Cash]] (1996-2008)===
Ryan was Clyde's brother who was a huge fan of [[Sonichu]]. After the [[Sonichu (comic)|comics]] were delayed over and over, Ryan fell into a depression and committed suicide. Chris, of course, [[Captain's Log, Stardate December 28th, 2008|reacted to this]] in an inconsiderate manner, telling Clyde and his family to "just move on", and marveling at his power to incite suicide. He also suggested that Clyde get a girlfriend who could make him just as happy as Ryan could have, which (disturbing implications aside) indicates that Chris seems to regard people as more or less fungible. This also helps explain why Chris seems to be able to move on so quickly when one of his online "heartsweets" meets some unfortunate demise.

===[[PandaHalo]] (d. 2009?)===
Despite her being hundreds of kilometers away from the bushfires, Chris assumed PandaHalo was dead. She is actually alive and kicking but Chris still doesn't know this. Two days after her "death," he went to find another sweetheart to [[Mass debating|mass debate]] to, saying "It's OK though, at least I have a [[Julie|good woman]] who's willing to be by my side at this point."<ref>[[Mumble 7#Summary]]</ref>.

Nine months later, [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]] featured a special "memorial" to PandaHalo and a sequence in which she dies (off-screen) in a building fire after saving her "Pokemon", [[Chloe Rosechu]] and [[BlazeBob Sonichu]], so they wouldn't "burn with" her, not realizing that burning is an incredibly painful way to die.

More recently, Chris "dedicated" all of [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]] to PandaHalo's memory. This would be almost touching, if the alleged dedication didn't wholly consist of how awesome Chris was for using Panda's cover artwork.

===[[Sarah May]]===
After being called "[[Julie]]" multiple times, Sarah May attempted suicide over Mumble.<ref>[[Mumble 8]]</ref> Immediately after she went offline, rather than express any concern or try to find a way to stop her, Chris told Julie (who was also in the chat), "I still have you," with a completely emotionless "oh well" attitude. Julie was playing along with Chris, and did not react to Sarah's suicide attempt in any human-like fashion either; yet, it did not occur to Chris that Julie's behavior was ''in any way'' unnatural. Chris then made an [[CWC Shout Out to Sarah May|immature shout-out]] to her on a YouTube video, with tears faker than all his [[sweetheart]]s combined. The only reason he offered as to why she shouldn't commit suicide was that he would be sad without her.

===[[Aunt Corrina]] (1936-2009)===
Chris's aunt Corrina had her funeral on Chris's birthday, which was also [[wikipedia:Shrove Tuesday|Shrove Tuesday]], a Christian holiday that involves eating pancakes. Needless to say, Chris cared more about the pancakes than the funeral of his own aunt.

When the "I know how to be sad because my dog died" excuse fails, Chris usually follows up with an offhand mention of his Aunt Corrina. If that fails, the deaths of his many sweethearts tends to follow.

===[[Clyde Cash]] (1976-2009)===
In early [[2009]], Christian seemed to be aware that Clyde Cash was supposedly dead, though he was suspicious of the idea. Regardless, he [[curse-ye-ha-me-ha|cursed]] Clyde in [[Captain's Log, Stardate August 18th, 2009]], just in case.

===[[BILLY MAYS]] (1958-2009)===
In the video [[Captain's Log, Stardate July 1st, 2009]], Chris only seems to be upset over people blaming him for MAYS's death, and loudly denies that BILLY had ever been the mayor of [[CWCville]]. He doesn't even offer his condolences to MAYS's family. Down the line, Chris selfishly adopts the idea that MAYS was in fact his bodyguard and he died protecting Chris.

In ''Sonichu'' #9, Chris slaps in a one-page intro with BILLY saying that he was never was the Mayor, but was part of Chris's group. At the bottom was a message from Chris, asking him to "come back soon."

===[[Ivy]] (1992-2009)===
Ivy committed suicide after not being allowed to see Chris. Chris uploaded the [[CWC "Boyfriend"]] video as a memorial. Yes, a poorly sung remake of Avril Lavigne's happy, bouncy pop/punk song, with lyrics changed to be about how much Chris would like women to date him. Chris included pictures of several past sweethearts in the video, making it less of a tribute to Ivy and more of a monument to Chris's failures.

Furthermore, as is unquestionably appropriate, Ivy's tragic demise was incorporated into issue #9. Rather than admit to having a hand in her suicide, Chris conjures up a magnificently gruesome accidental death, which involved having gotten her neck broken with elevator wires after falling through the elevator floor. Although this is a particularly troubling manipulation of what really happened, Chris more than makes up for it with gravitas; he gracefully, albeit belatedly, offers a tiny orange box in memory to Ivy 'O'Niel', taking pride of place underneath a backshot of [[Slaweel]] and some weird faux-[[Transformers]] actions. All of the above shows the leaps and bounds Chris has made in his appropriate handling of tragic deaths.

When confronted about this insanity in the [[Mailbag]], Chris got quite indignant, demanding to know what the questioner thought he should have done, since Ivy had died in real life and could no longer serve as Chris's [[GodJesus|God-given sweetheart]]. It's not clear whether it had ever crossed Chris's mind to keep this horrific death out of the pages of what is supposedly a comic aimed at children, or to let Ivy's character live on in CWCville like he had done for Patti and BILLY.

===[[Wikipedia:Mary Jo Kopechne|Mary Jo]] (d. 2009)===
In a [[Mailbag 27#Love and loss|mailbag]], Chris was asked by a [[Wikipedia:Ted Kennedy|troubled fan]] what he should do after the death of his beloved Mary Jo.

{{quote|Mary Jo is gone (I feel for you), but you should move on and try to find another woman who will treat you about as good, or possibly better than, her. Suck it up, and move on like a Man would. I tell you as a Man who had to do the same thing a few times in the past too.|Chris, being super-sensitive.}}

Chris clearly states how he believes a death should be approached by a man (which includes finding another woman right away and a specific lack of grieving), and tells the traumatized fan that he should simply move onto a better woman since his girlfriend's death, not only being completely asinine, but also outlining that he believes women to be [[women's rights|replaceable and possibly interchangeable]].
[[Image:RIP mike.JPG|thumb|The obituary that Chris didn't even bother to read.]]

===Mike Jackson (1969-2010)===

Throughout [[January 2010]], a man named Mike Jackson sent Chris a series of friendly letters asking for advice, and then begging for help after Chris's amazingly bad advice completely ruined his life. Chris, caring soul that he is, promised the absolute minimum amount of effort (a [[YouTube]] video) and then never made good on his word.

Distraught over Chris's total lack of action, and terrified at the risk of having his family torn to pieces, Mike [[Mailbag 52#This, if anything, requires a canned response|died from a sleeping pill overdose]]. Mike's grieving widow generously decided to let Chris view the private obituary page set up for friends and family of the deceased, saying that Mike would have wanted her to treat Chris with respect and decency.

Chris responded to the news of Mike's death with the same copy-pasted bullshit he used to pretend he was listening to criticism. The two infamous sentences made no sense in context and demonstrated beyond the shadow of a doubt that Chris could not care less about Mike's tragic death. It was revealed in [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 8]] that Chris didn't even view Mike's obituary page, and his [[Mailbag 56#In which Chris isn't sorry at all|response]] to Mike's grieving son was all of three words long.

===Simonla Rosechu===
[[Image:SandyRosechu.jpg|80px|right|thumb|The bastard child in question.]]
During the [[Asperchu]] saga, a recurring theme was [[Evan]]'s legal claims in regard to [[Simonla Rosechu]] as a derivative of his character, [[Simonchu]]. While early demands were for Chris to edit his old strips to remove Simonla entirely from continuity, later Evan consented to letting Chris keep Simonla's early appearances, on the grounds that he kill her at a later date. Chris, not surprisingly, totally lost his shit, showing a much stronger emotional attachment to an empty, one-dimensional fictional character than he has managed for any living creature other than his dog. Finally, after being faced with the threat of legal action, Chris finally killed Simonla in issue #10, though not before she laid an egg out of wedlock with her baby-daddy [[Wild Sonichu|Wild]] (though, of course, the act of laying the egg was never shown, or even mentioned), which hatched into [[Sandy Rosechu]].

Simonla's death apparently continued to haunt Chris long afterwards. This led to him [[Simonla Rosechu#Resurrection|reviving Simonla]] around [[May 2014]], more than four years after her demise. It should be noted that, as revealed in the [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Calls]], Chris considers cartoon characters to be real, living creatures that exist in some other world reminiscent of Toon Town from ''[[Wikipedia:Who Framed Roger Rabbit|Who Framed Roger Rabbit]]''. Simonla's death was as [[Chris and reality|real]] to him as that of any of his family members or sweethearts... perhaps even more so.

===[[Chandler Cats#Desi|Desi]] and [[Chandler Cats#Skittles|Skittles]] Chandler (precise date of deaths unknown; no later than 10 April 2010)===

In an email Chris sent to [[Jackie]], he [[Jackie E-mails#Chris is lazy, Hates simple chores|mentions having three cats]] (Lucy, Kitty and Scamper), despite the fact that he was previously known to have had two additional cats (Desi and Skittles). This suggests that by the time of the correspondence both had died, or had at least departed from [[14 Branchland Court]] in some other way. No documentation exists of Chris's reaction to their loss.

===[[Wikipedia:Murder of Yeardley Love|Yeardley Love]] (1987-2010)===
Yeardley Love was a lacrosse player for [[UVA]] who was murdered. Chris uploaded a [[05142010|video]] discussing the story (which he probably just saw on TV for a few minutes), but didn't even bother to say her name. He also stated that the murderer should get 20 years in prison for the shock of the murder, which is twice his desired punishment for [[Tobacky|smoking]]. Later in the video, [[Chris and his Ego|he rerouted the subject towards himself]] and stated how everyone needed to be sympathetic of him and his autism and that he's not a bad man. In other words, he used the death of a girl he never knew in an attempt to make himself look good.

===[[Bob Chandler|Robert Franklin Chandler Jr.]] (1927-2011)===
After a long battle with cancer, Bob's life came to an end while he was being hospitalized in the [[wikipedia:Martha Jefferson Hospital|Martha Jefferson Hospital]]'s ICU.<ref>http://web.archive.org/web/20130211071324/http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dailyprogress/obituary.aspx?n=robert-franklin-chandler&pid=153539600 (archive from 11 Feb 2013)</ref> The fact that on the day Bob died Chris posted an online [[attraction sign]] in the form of a [[Facebook#What I am looking for in a woman|facebook note]] reflects poorly on him. However, he later told [[Jackie]] that ''"my heavier cries from my father's passing is really hitting me bad."'', and lamented that in a previous [[dreams|dream]] the Grim Reaper had promised that he would not claim Bob until 2015.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 31]]</ref>

In a March 31, 2012 Facebook message, Chris expressed a desire for Bob's ghost to haunt the dreams of anyone who doesn't like him, putting him on the exact same level as his dead dog. While this was an understandable reaction to discovering "plans" that trolls were going to dig her up, or discovering a webcomic that contained what he considered a mockery of her memory, his threat to send Bob's ghost after people is equal parts disrespectful and unreasonable.

In a [[Facebook]] post from [[June 2013|June]] of [[2013]], Chris laments that he had more freedom when his father was still alive, and goes onto complain about how he has to take time out of his day to [[Jerkop|"serve and protect"]] [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]]. Knowing Chris, this presumably means that he sat around in [[Chris's room|his room]] playing [[vidya]] while his elderly father did most of the [[chores|work around the house]].

===[[Barbara Chandler]] (1941-)===
Barbara, much like [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] before his death, has been experiencing many illnesses in the past few years. Barbara suffers from obesity, and this contributes to her poor health, examples of which include oversleeping and bed sores. In [[August 2013]], Chris revealed that Barbara is now a breast cancer survivor, which reveals that she suffers from far more serious health problems than initially thought. It may not be long before Barbara keels over as well, which would ultimately leave Chris with no coddling matriarch to provide support for or keep him company, and in the grander scheme of things, without parents.

Even today, where everyone's favorite manchild will go from there remains a mystery, especially since it was revealed in an [[October_2013_Facebook_Posts#Reality_Comes_Knocking|October 2013 Facebook post]] that Chris considers Barbara to be one of the few people who gives meaning and purpose to his life.

===Chris himself (1982-)===
Given Chris's notoriously [[Obesity|bad diet]], lack of [[Chris and health|activity]], [[14 Branchland Court|hygiene]] or [[Chris and the Internet|social interaction]], on top of a complete lack of [[Fuck Quest|motivation]] or [[Chris and remorse|concern]] for anything other than himself, it is generally considered unlikely that Chris will live very far into his forties should he persist in his current lifestyle.

However, there is a likelihood that like [[Bob Chandler|Bob]], who lived into his mid-eighties despite suffering from (And eventually passing away as a result of) [[Heart level|heart failure]] and [[alcohol]]ism, he may be genetically disposed to lead a long, albeit miserable life. In comparison though, Chris's own death is naturally [[Chris and his Ego|the only one that immediately concerns him]], since it is the one thing that would put an end to the [[Love Quest]] once and for all.

{{quote|And Believe Me, IN DREAMS, and even IN MOMENTS within my mind while AWAKE, I HAVE SEEN AND FELT That Death Light. Not only is it the Most Horrifying Thing Ever, but I am [[Chris and English|LOOOONG NOT READY FOR IT YET]].|Chris, on his visions of death.}}

In a conversation with the CWCipedia Sysop, Chris once mentioned that he had been receiving [[Dreams|recurring visions]] of himself walking into a bright light, which he one day hoped would be prevented from appearing by getting a [[sweetheart]]. However, judging by how unlikely it is that he will ever enter any meaningful relationship with someone within his [[Attraction Sign|obsessive standards]] and willing to put up with him and his numerous faults, these visions will most likely persist until the inevitable day it comes true.

In a [[Facebook]] post on October 30, 2013, Chris stated that he had become so [[stress|stressed]] out (Specifically, over [[October_2013_Facebook_Posts#Reality_Comes_Knocking|the revelation]] that his [[Manchester High School|high school]] [[gal pal]]s did not actually like him much at all), that he has contemplated killing himself multiple times. According to Chris, the only reasons he did not go through with it are [[Barbara|painfully]] [[Clover and Snoopy|obvious]]. This shows just how much Chris's [[Chris and psychology|mentality]] has drained, and how badly he needs the professional help he so stubbornly refuses to get. Of course, this could well be Chris exaggerating and trying to gain pity as he has done in the past, and as his mother allegedly also has (Or at least, used to have) a habit of doing. In all seriousness, however, suicide is no laughing matter, and this should be looked at with caution.

With the recent news of his [[un-clit]] getting infected, it's become a very real possibility that Chris could die from the infection, especially given his notorious history regarding cleanliness.

===Various ancestors===
Chris claimed that, at Aunt Corrina's funeral, his ancestors wished him a safe [[Ohio trip|trip to Ohio]] to meet Julie.<ref>[[Jackie Chat 7]]</ref>

==See also==
*[[Autism]]
*[[White_knight#Chris_lacks_empathy_himself|Lack of empathy]]
*[[Death threats]]

==References==
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[[Category:Dead]]

14 Branchland Court

2014-11-23T19:04:50Z

The World Is Yours: No apostrophe needed

[[File:14bc1.jpg|thumb|The house in 2012.]]
[[Image:Chandlerhousegooglemaps.jpg|thumb|Aerial shot of the house.]]
{{quote|No burglar would ever want anything in this house.|Chris, [[Mailbag 44#No burglar would steal Chris's stuff|Mailbag 44]]}}

'''14 Branchland Court''', [[Ruckersville, VA]] was the lair of [[Christian Weston Chandler]], his mother [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]], [[Christopher's name change|Christopher's ghost]], [[Clover and Snoopy]] and the surviving [[Chandler cats]]. It was a white (now faded to ivory) two-story house trimmed in pink (faded from a dark red) with three bedrooms on the outskirts of Ruckersville. The property was near the intersection of Branchland Court and Westwood Drive, facing northwest. The house was just past the local trailer park, and nestled in a lower middle class suburban community. Built in [[Pre-1980#1970s|1977]], and with no major work done since [[1986]]<ref>[[:File:14BranchlandCourt.png]]</ref>, the house shows its age with its tacky fake shutters and vinyl siding. As a result of its dated look, in addition to the decaying gardens and overgrown yard, it has done a number on local property values.

As of [[March 2009]], all space not used for walking or sleeping appeared to be packed full of junk. However, in earlier pictures (those of [[Chris]]'s twentieth birthday [2002], for instance), the house seemed reasonably tidy. In his [[Tour of Christian's House|video tour]], Chris also keeps referring to the fact that "things got cluttered," suggesting that the house has grown fuller and fuller in the past decade. "Clutter" is, of course, a horrible understatement. The house is packed with crap. Its former living room is unusable, with junk filling the entire space and reaching within two feet of the ceiling. Similarly, other rooms are full of junk, but rather than solid blocks of shit, there are small crevices with chairs, TVs, and other furnishings.

[[THAT IS MY HOUSE]] revealed that Chris's parents were aware of the house's condition (what with the junk being both a health hazard and a fire hazard), and fear that [[Tour of Christian's House|Chris's video tours]] may elicit the attention of the [http://www.vdh.state.va.us/LHD/ThomasJefferson/Greene/ Health Department of Greene County] resulting in their home being condemned. Trolls made several calls to the health department in hopes of spurring such a process into action, but their efforts proved fruitless.

Chris [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 8|claimed]] to have put forth some effort towards cleaning up the house in early 2010, but the "back-breaking" tasks he describes amount to simple maintenance, like vacuuming and scrubbing the floors. He talks about this as if he is making great progress in fixing the disaster area that is 14 Branchland Court, but his efforts appear to be just enough to keep him from [[Vivitheg's AIM chat|slipping on cat shit]] on a regular basis. His mother has threatened to kick him out of the house if he tries to throw away her worthless junk.<ref>[[Kacey Call 10]]</ref>

Chris also claimed that Bob used to use a computer, but Barbara bought an enormous amount of crap from Goodwill, blocking off the computer. Apparently, Bob was too lazy or unwilling to provoke a fight, as he just stopped using the computer.<ref>[[Jackie Chat 8|Jackie Chat #8]]</ref>

In [[Rocky Shoemaker call|a phone call]] to [[Rocky Shoemaker]], it was revealed that 14 Branchland Court was infested, and that the parasitic infestation caused [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] to be "covered in bug bites" before his death from heart disease.

On 10 January 2014, Chris reported that the house had sustained major structural damage from an [[Destruction_Of_Chris's_House|early-morning house fire]] following an electrical shortage. Chris, Barb, the dogs, Lucy, and other possessions made it out safely, but the state of the house and the family's possessions is (as of 11 January) considered unknown.

==History==
Chris lived at 14 Branchland Court from his birth (24 February [[1982]]) until his family moved him to the Richmond area, some distance away, in order to escape the [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School|Greene County]] Public School system's attempts to pull him out of mainstream schools. After the move, which took place in fall [[1992]], Chris and his father lived in the Richmond suburbs while his mother held the fort in Ruckersville so she could continue working for the local electric power authority until retirement. Barbara joined them after retiring a few years later.

The Chandlers moved back to the Ruckersville house in [[2000]] after Chris graduated [[high school]]. In [[100 2178|a video]] released in [[May 2010]], Chris claims that his family tried and failed to sell the house at some point, and would have stayed in the Richmond suburbs if they had been able to find a buyer. (He attributes the house's failure to sell to a conspiracy between local realtors and the Greene County school system; but, as this article will explain, it probably went unsold for more practical reasons.)

==The Tour==
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[[Image:CWCHouse.jpg|thumb|right|Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.]]
{{quote|if Clyde thought my room is a mess, he should see the rest of my house; my family has a LOT of clutter from small things in boxes to furniture. [...] You don't need to feel surprised from the mess of my family, my mother got her things one at a time while "it was a bargain".|Chris to [[Julie]]<ref>[[BlueSpike Skype Logs 5]]</ref>}}
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In two videos uploaded on 27 [[March 2009]], Chris provided a tour of his house and the property that it's on. Like his own room, Chris's entire house is a disaster area. Several rooms are so full of junk that Chris cannot enter them.

What follows is a brief description of the rooms and other areas of 14 Branchland Court.

===First floor===
[[File:0012-BobbyReading.jpg|thumb|250px|Bob in the family room.]]
In the north corner is what Christian describes as "the [[music]] room", which is primarily the domain of [[Barbara Chandler]], who frequently sleeps there. A small bathroom is directly in front of the stairs leading up to the front door. On the other end of a short hallway is the utility room, in which the family keeps a refrigerator in addition to the usual washer and dryer. The family room (possibly in the west corner) had been claimed by the late [[Bob Chandler]], who apparently slept there as well. If Chris's parents ever had, or used, dedicated bedrooms in the house, they have yet to be filmed.

===Second floor===
[[Image:411-CWCWeekP5 crop 2.jpg|thumb|right|[[Barbara]] moving Chris's earthly possessions from [[Richmond]] back to the living room in April [[2000]]. The junk was already amassing.]]

[[Chris's room]] is in the north corner of the second floor. Across the hallway, near the east corner, is a filthy bathroom, which apparently has not been cleaned in years, as implied by the layers of dark brown/green mold growing in the shower and the peeling of the veneer on the cabinetry. The kitchen and dining area are apparently near the southern corner and southwestern wall. The computer Chris uses for Internet access seems to be in this part of the house, as is a Christmas tree left up year-round. Tellingly, Chris has actually photographed himself with [[Officer Nasty]] and [[sex toys|dildos]] in the kitchen, and has even [[mass debating|mass debated]] over a webcam feed. This implies that Snorlax (and Bob, when he was still with us) never actually leave the areas in which they sleep and spend their days there, leaving Chris free to do [[sex tape|whatever he wants]] undisturbed. The living room, packed with boxes and shit, is across the stairway from Chris's room.
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===Yard===
The Chandlers' yard consists of some simple crossed wood planters near the curb and some small shrubs and trees out front. The plants in the planters have long since [[Chris and death|died]]. The backyard contains a shed and a small platform leading to a back entrance. The shed is full of shit, most notably a car, and was once the place where [[Bob]] would tinker with machines. After that, there are some trees and the pen where [[Patti]] once played. Her [[Father Call|5-10 ton doghouse]] still stands, and she is buried nearby. At some point, a tree branch fell on the grave. Being lazy, Chris cannot summon the strength to pick the damn thing up.

However, in earlier pictures (when Chris was less huge and he had yet to start his [[Love Quest]]), we can see that the yard used to be quite lush and beautiful, with a variety of flowers planted around the area, the grass clipped, and healthy trees. Many people speculate that over the years, Chris's parents have gotten too old or too lazy to care for their garden, leaving the area neglected.

As of [[February 2012]], the yard has been completely obscured by trash, junked cars, and [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|God knows what else]]. From the street one could barely stand the smell and only the bravest of Ruckersville's citizens dare to venture past.

In 2013, a troll passing Chris's house in his car uploaded [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwZKGe4BOSE a video], showing the front yard almost completely covered by an overgrown lawn, in addition to the above.

==The Tour II: Electric Hedgehog Boogaloo==

In 2013, a [[Tour_of_Chris's_House_II|video was leaked]] by [[Alec Benson Leary]] showing the state of Chris' home since the last tour he gave in 2009. Needless to say ''(especially in light of eyewitness reports of his front yard in 2012)'', the house has become even ''more'' of a mess since then. Whereas Chris had at least ''some'' room to maneuver in the 2009 Tour Video, here, the passageways have become so narrow and jam-packed that even he complains about all of the clutter being in his way. The kitchen, in particular, has become an unsightly mess- the Chandlers apparently couldn't be half-assed to put away their groceries, so it's strewn all over the place. The living room, already an ocean of rubbish, has gotten worse, with the accumulated clutter now towering over Chris to the point where he has to stretch to get footage of it. The bathroom hasn't been cleaned since the [[ShowerClean|last video Chris released of him cleaning it]] - and he even admits so himself in the video.

Even the stairs of his home have become cluttered with nonsense such as Christmas ornaments, boxes and bags, which could spell disaster if Chris or [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] have to evacuate the premises. Also notable is the fact that every so often, Chris can be observed picking up random pieces of garbage from the floor as well.

In [[Chris and his Ego|typical Chris-Chan fashion]], he describes his room as "the cleanest of the whole house", despite it having unsightly masses of clothes everywhere and even an unmade bed that he couldn't be bothered to at least straighten up before making this ill-advised video.

When he steps outside, he basically confirms what trolls have documented as early as 2012: that his lawn is ''completely'' overgrown to the point where it has utterly consumed one of the structures in his yard. Also unsurprising is the fact that after Bob's death, the garden shed has been completely abandoned.

Given his commentary, it ''almost'' seemed like Chris acknowledges that he has kept his home in a very unacceptable condition....right until he blames [[Bob Chandler|his]] [[Barbara Chandler|parents]] for being "hoarders" and [[Chris_and_remorse#Shifting_blame|totally shifting blame away from himself]], ''despite'' being the "man" of the house.

By this time, the bug infestation appears to have been gotten rid of, or at least contained. It was stated before that the infestation was so bad that Chris was confined to his room in order to avoid getting bitten, but in this video, no bugs are seen and Chris makes no mention of them.

==Destruction of the Chandler Household==

[[Image:14 Branchland Court on Fire - Copy.jpg|thumb|right|Witness image of 14 Branchland Court on fire. On Facebook, Chris blamed Keurig for causing the fire, but later let slip in an email that it was plugged into a "heavy-duty" extension cord in the basement bathroom.]]

On January 10th, 2014, a [[Destruction_Of_Chris's_House|fire broke out]] at the Chandler household. According to Chris, this was caused by the faulty wiring of a coffee machine, which sparked and started the blaze. Reportedly, Chris, his mother, the beagles and Lucy (one of the cats) made it out safely ''(surprising when you consider how much clutter was obstructing the stairways as seen in the second Tour video)'', but it is unknown as to what the status of the remaining pets are.

From what Chris has written so far, it can be assumed that the Chandlers escaped with little more than the clothes on their backs. Chris wrote that he was able to save his wallet, medication for his mother, as well as some clothes and shoes, as well as his iPhone. Since the fire, Chris has also been observed on Miiverse, suggesting that he also managed to save his 3DS at some point. As for everything else, it can be assumed that they were either lost in the blaze, or suffered water damage in the efforts to douse it or because the damaged roof left them exposed to rain. A [[:File:Chrischansroom15xt7.jpg|map of Chris's room]] indicates that it was in the northern corner of the house (front left as seen from the street), near where the flames rise through the roof in the above photo.

For the time being, Chris and his mother are staying at a [[Rental House|rental house]], pending repairs to 14 Branchland Court.

As completely tragic as this incident is, it did not come as a surprise to some people that something like this would have happened, either due to Barbara's constant hoarding or Chris' unwillingness to properly clean his house and ensure that any excess of clutter would have been removed so that they wouldn't add fuel to the fire. As pointed out by quite a few concerned people, the house was ''always'' a health and safety hazard ''(ever since Chris released the first Tour of his house, at the very least)'', and it was only a matter of time before disaster struck. Sadly, as always, Chris disregarded this very well-meaning advice, and, as a result, reaped what he and his family had sown.

One thing that must be taken into account in the wake of the Chandler Household's destruction is one that Chris's father pointed out before. It's a known fact that the worst hoarders have to keep their hoards hidden from friends and neighbors. The damage means that now the entire neighborhood, [[Misc E-mails#Greedy Firefighter|firemen]], and now the men and women contracted to repair the house can see the full extent of the Chandler's collective hoarding. If Bob Chandler's remarks in the [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|THAT IS MY HOUSE]] video were accurate, then even if the house can be repaired, the house could deem to be unfit for habitation until the house is cleaned and brought up to code. There is also a matter of cleaning the house so that repair crews can actually get to everything, which the Chandlers would no doubt inhibit.

==Mail==
{{quote|Hand-Written and Hand-Drawn Submissions are also accepted, ONLY addressed to: Christian Weston Chandler 14 Branchland Ct. Ruckersville, VA 22968. ALL letters addressed to any NAME other than "Christian Weston Chandler" or "Christopher Weston Chandler", will be Immediately disposed of with Paper Recyling, or be "Returned to Sender" with a frown face on it. ALL Visually Grotesque, Shocking and Offensive art works and letters will be disposed of properly as well.|Chris on contacting him, [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=CWCipedia:Copyrights CWCipedia]|2=[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=CWCipedia:Copyrights CWCipedia copyright page]}}

If you would like to send a letter to Christian, or perhaps mail his mother some of the many [[nudes|NOODZ]] he has posted on the Internets in recent times, you can contact him at:

:''Christian Weston Chandler,''
:''14 Branchland Court,''
:''[[Ruckersville, VA|Ruckersville]],'' [[Virginia|VA]] 22968-9545,''
:''[[United States of America]]''

'''NOTE:'''
:Based on previous experience with mail, it is likely that one of two things will happen to the letter should you choose to send it: 1.) It will be intercepted by Chris, who apparently takes his parents' (now that Bob kicked it, his mother's) mail on a regular basis, or 2.) Barbara will receive it, and dismiss it as old news (reports show that his parents have read some of the letters and ignored them).

==Visiting==
[[File:House-fail-bursting-at-the-seams.jpg|thumb|The possible current state of 14 Branchland Court.]]

Visits to 14 Branchland Court, at least until Chris inherits the house and promptly trades the deed to a troll for some magic beans so said troll can found the "Christian Weston Chandler Museum of Fail", are ill-advised. While a troll who does manage to make it to the front door will probably not be assaulted by Chris, they will most likely face Chris as he calls for his elderly mother to fight his battle or perform a [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]].

To date, Chris has extended personalized invitations to [[Clyde Cash]], [[Liquid Chris]], the staff of [[Asperchu#Asperpedia|Asperpedia]], and pretty much anybody that has ever thought ill of Chris to come to his house, so that he might [[Death threats|murder them]]. To date, none of them has taken him up on his offer. The scenario of such a meeting would likely be reminiscent of the [[hooker incident]], wherein the police would be promptly summoned whilst Chris hides, crying, behind his mother.

==Chris and his address==
Giving away one's home address on the Internet is generally considered unwise. Possibly Chris didn't realize this, or perhaps he realizes that [[trolls]] have so thoroughly and permanently violated his privacy that attempting to preserve it is a lost cause. In any case, he has publicly announced his home address on a number of occasions, in YouTube videos and elsewhere.

* Shortly after 21 July 2009, when [[CChanSonichuCWC]] released a video promoting his ''Sonichu'' merchandise, Chris posted his address in a YouTube comment in hopes of a physical confrontation with the "impostor".
* On 14 August 2009, in the video [[NO D*** WAY, IMPOSTOR!!!|"NO D*** WAY, IMPOSTOR!!!"]], Chris rattled off his address as a way of attempting to prove his identity.
* He did the same thing in his [[CWC Public Disclaimer]], also released on 14 August 2009.
* On 23 November 2009, in the [[CWC_Personal_Sonichu_Presentation|''Sonichu'' Presentation]], Chris provided his address (as well as his home and mobile phone numbers) in hopes of attracting investment in his comic book characters.
* On 15 January 2010, Chris released a [[15 January 2010|video]] where he summoned the creators of the Asperpedia to his home address for a confrontation.
* On 27 August 2010, Chris gave out his address and phone number in a [[EXCLUSIVE Manchester High School 2000 Reunion Required NOW|YouTube video]] seeking to organize a high school reunion. In the same video, he warned viewers to be careful with their personal information on the Internet, taking his anti-grasp of irony to incredible new levels.
* Chris has published his address on his websites at various times. It was available at the bottom of the main page on the [[CWCipedia]] for most of the time Chris used the site.

==Gallery==
On 7 [[September 2013]], some pictures of the house were leaked on the [[CWCki Forums]].
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On 3 [[March 2014]], the pictures of the house post-fire were leaked on the forums. On the 3rd and 4th shots, note the damage to the left half of the roof, matching the location of the shot of the actual fire.
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==See also==
* [[Chris's room]]
* [[Chris's kitchen]]
* [[Ruckersville, VA|Ruckersville]]
* [[Charlottesville, VA|Charlottesville]]
* [[Tour of Christian's House]]
* [[Tour of Chris's House II]]
* [[Destruction Of Chris's House]]
* [[Chris's homes]]
* [[Property tax assessment]] - Last appraisal of the house made by Greene County before the fire.

==References==
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{{Places}}
[[Category:Chris's house]]
[[Category:Pages with fan videos]]

Chris and copyright

2014-11-18T00:54:13Z

The World Is Yours: /* Copyright registration */ Think you wanted this instead.

[[Image:SonichuCertificate.jpg|thumb|Chris's copyright registration certificate.]]
{{Quote|...anyone using my characters and all Without My Consent are Criminals, and such people should be reported to the [[Jerkop|Police]] immediately.|[[Chris]]|[[CWCipedia]]'s Copyright page}}

As with many things, [[Christian Weston Chandler]] has a very limited understanding of '''copyright''' and of how it's enforced.

== Sonichu as a copyrightable work ==
[[Image:116-CWCCop.jpg|thumb|right|180px|Crooks!]]
Chris is vaguely aware of what [[Wikipedia:Copyright|copyright]] is: some sort of a legal right that creators of things have that lets these creators to tell others what they can and can't do – a very [[naïve]] view, though not entirely incorrect.

He has really only had one real first-hand experience on the copyright questions that formed the basis of everything that followed: the creation of [[Sonichu]]. According to [[User:ChrisChanSonichu profile|Chris's]] [[Sonichu (character)|"autobiography"]], Chris was making a [[Christian's Favorite Hits!|CD cover]], and his teacher successfully explained to him that [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] and [[Pokémon|Pikachu]] are characters created by others, and he has no right to use them and he has to create something original instead. In the [[Father Call|call with Kacey's father]], he also says the teacher told him he had been in the clear with the beginning as far as copyright is concerned.

However, the fact that teacher accepted Sonichu cemented Chris's vague understanding of the [[Chris and the Law|law]], and now he's unwilling to learn the truth. In his mind, mashing together two different characters and "[[CWC - Hand Drawn Original|<nowiki>[putting]</nowiki> a little C-In-A-Circle and <nowiki>[his]</nowiki> John Hancock]]" creates completely new intellectual property that is his and his alone.

In reality, any work that uses previously copyrighted work as a basis is a derivative work. This means that while it may have substantial original elements that the creator definitely holds a copyright on, it cannot be published or distributed without permission of the original copyright holders. The reality isn't ''entirely'' clear-cut, however, and there are several exceptions to this rule, both well-understood ([[wikipedia:Fair use|Fair Use doctrine]], which allows limited use of copyrighted material for journalistic and scholarly purposes) and less well understood (there's an ongoing debate about the emerging copyright issues like digital rights and the remixing arts).

Unfortunately for Chris, Sonichu is a fairly clear-cut case of a derivative work. While the character design itself has ''some'' originality despite its blatantly derivative style (and as such might have passed the teacher's inspection), as far as backstory is concerned, Sonichu explicitly said to be a fusion of two existing characters - by Chris as its creator and in the comic story itself.

In other words, if Chris had elected to merely ape Sonic art style and plot elements from video games, he might have something that is borderline acceptable. There are way too many explicit references to the games, however. Fundamentally, Chris wanted [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]]; if they are just some made-up characters and ''not'' Pokémon, they just aren't ''true'' enough for him. Unfortunately, Chris doesn't understand that such "made-up" characters are how people ''define'' creativity.

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== Chris as an enforcer of rights ==
[[Image:117-CWCSonichuLeer.jpg|thumb|right|[[Creepy stare|Don't look right into their eyes.]]]]
Chris is very paranoid regarding his copyright, and will frequently [[CWC Public Disclaimer|hand out all of his personal information to complete strangers]] if he thinks it is being contested. This has backfired in a number of ways.

Chris has encouraged people to report copyright infringements to the [[jerkop|police]]. The police, unfortunately, can't do much when random citizens report civil offenses such as copyright infringement. Even if Chris ''had'' the rights to the works in question, suing people for copyright infringement would be Chris's job and his job alone, or that of a representative whom he has specifically appointed to that specific task.

Unsurprisingly, Chris is a [[Chris and hypocrisy|total hypocrite]] when it comes to abusing the work of other creators. In the space of 11½ issues, [[Things Chris has ripped off|Chris pulled characters and concepts from innumerable franchises]] and even went so far as to steal "original" characters from fans and [[sweethearts]] with little respect shown to their creators. He's even had the balls to take [[Asperchu|another creator's characters]], [[Mitch Sonichu|alter them]] and demand that thenceforth they be portrayed the way ''he'' has made them in the original material. Despite how firmly Chris holds on to his views of copyright, when directly challenged on why it's okay for him to rip things off but not for other people to do the same to Sonichu, he's unable to think of a response.<ref>[[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 9]]</ref>

Furthermore, Chris refuses to listen to the original creators of these "original" characters when they ask to have their characters removed. The best example would be the fight between [[Evan]] and Chris over the character [[Simonla Rosechu]], a ripoff of Evan's original character Simonchu. When Evan demanded that Chris remove Simonla from the comics in an on-page death, Chris refused because ''it would take [[Wild Sonichu]]'s girlfriend away''. As time went on, Chris fought tooth and nail to keep Simonla in, going so far as to write out a scenario where Simonchu is told to tell Evan that Simonla likes [[CWCville]]. In the end, it took two shut downs of the CWCipedia for Chris to finally surrender and kill off Simonla.

===Licensing and terms of use===

The [[Wikipedia:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] software used on [[CWCipedia]] had various built-in settings for content licensing. During installation, MediaWiki defaults to [[Wikipedia:GNU Free Documentation License|GNU Free Documentation License]], which states that the content can be reused elsewhere for any purpose, as long as proper copyright holder attribution and license references are given.

On 6 [[September 2009]], a fan wrote to Chris and thanked him for allowing this reuse, which provoked an uncharacteristically swift response from Chris, demanding WikiSysop not-so-politely to remove the obviously erroneous "GDU FDL" license.<ref>[[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence#The License on the bottom of my Cwcipedia (WS)|Chris's message to WikiSysop]]</ref>

This prompted Chris to write his own [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=CWCipedia:Copyrights Copyrights] and [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Terms_of_use Terms of use] pages.

The legal problems caused by Chris's terms are detailed elsewhere in this article. The Terms of Use are even weirder:

* ''"Any and All Visually Grotesque, Shocking and Offensive works will be Immediately Deleted and NOT be uploaded, or seen ever again; NO RESUBMISSIONS ALLOWED of such pieces."''
* ''ALL letters addressed to any NAME other than "Christian Weston Chandler" or "Christopher Weston Chandler", will be Immediately disposed of with Paper Recyling, or be "Returned to Sender" with a frown face on it. ALL Visually Grotesque, Shocking and Offensive art works and letters will be disposed of properly as well."''
* Fan sites should be pre-approved by Chris.
* Sending spam to Sega and Nintendo about making official Sonichu games is apparently part of Terms of Use.

===Copyright registration===
It appears that Chris has actually paid US$45, and somehow got [http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=1&ti=1,1&Search%5FArg=Sonichu&Search%5FCode=TALL&CNT=10&PID=ZvDUHHsi-vkzrRWQU2p5oLpU7yxe&SEQ=20091106120549&SID=1 Sonichu approved by the United States Copyright Office]. On 12 [[November 2009]], he also posted a scan of the confirmation letter he received to [[CWCipedia]] and posted a highly predictable [[Red Letter CWC Certified Day|my-Heart-Level-just-went-to-100%-again video]].

Psychologically, this copyright registration represents a big win for Chris, because it gives him what he thinks are bragging rights, even though he has no idea what the copyright registration ''actually'' means. Copyright registration isn't an official recognition of copyright, however. Copyrights are granted automatically, and copyright registrations are only an official assertion that a specific work has been created at a specific date by the registrant; the registrations are only needed when suing another party for copyright infringement. It is also not a registration of a ''trademark''; Chris has no special rights for the name "Sonichu" itself. Finally, Chris made a critical mistake in filing the registration application: he described Sonichu as a "work for hire" in the apparent belief that this meant that the comic was his primary occupation, when it [[Wikipedia:Work for hire|really means]] that he created it on behalf of someone else, who is considered the creator for legal purposes.

If Nintendo or Sega sue Chris, they can easily demonstrate that they've held the rights to original characters like Sonic and Pikachu and Chris's work is derivative.

'''IN SHORT:''' Chris's copyright registration doesn't mean his comics aren't non-infringing.

=== Use of copyright notices ===
The way Chris maintains his so-called copyrights within his works is also baffling. It's possible he goes by the assumption that almost everything he draws must contain copious copyright notices, usually in a large disclaimer:

{{quote|© Christian Weston Chandler, March [[2000]]-????}}

It's worth noting that Chris obsessively includes copyright symbols in pictures he draws of Sonichu, including a picture he drew in the snow in his [[Holiday Greetings]] video and a doodle he drew on his ticket to the [[2005]] [[Anime Mid-Atlantic]] convention.

However, only daily newspaper comic strips have constant notices reminding about copyright due to their daily nature. In most forms of media throughout the world, one copyright notice at the beginning of the work is enough to assert rights, and only the year is noted in a copyright notice.

Finally, the year of the creation of the ''specific'' work in question should be noted in the copyright notice; for example [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]] should be "''© 2009-2010 CWC''". If Chris would want to specifically emphasize that Sonichu in general has existed since March 2000, he'd need to do so in an additional copyright notice (e.g. "''Sonichu'' #10 © 2009-2010 CWC. Sonichu character © CWC, March 2000.")

===Chris's motivations===
In any case, Chris doesn't really care so much what his copyright registration means and what it might or might not be good for, practically speaking. To him, it's mainly just a crutch for his ego. In the aftermath of his feud with [[Liquid Chris]], he sees it as the final and clinching proof that he himself is the TRUE and ORIGINAL creator of Sonichu. On 26 [[November 2009]], he posted the following as part of an announcement on [[CWCipedia]], which is quite illuminating:

{{quotebox|Also, I have been thinking, although all Sonichu "Merchandise" sold online in the past I have labeled false; I did that, because it came as a surprise to me then, I felt outraged appropriately (most everyone can relate to that; it's comparable to if [[Wikipedia:Godzilla|Godzilla]] or Clover [the [[Wikipedia:Cloverfield|Cloverfield]] monster] came to YOUR Metropolis and suddenly attacked your city). I realize now that even though it is still considerably Not Official, it all still is an homage to my creation. So I will make it clear to ALL those Vendors.

As long as it is NOT printed copies of my books' pages, or bootlegged copies of my "[[Christian Weston Chandler, Yep, I'm On T.V.]]" DVD, AND As Long As I am quoted on ALL websites' and vendors' locations as Original Creator of [[Sonichu]], [[Rosechu]], [[Cwcville]] and all of such, I, Christian Weston Chandler, approve of such merchandise from Day Forward. At least to give you all, my patient, loyal [[Fans]] and [[Troll]]s, something to quell your pallets [''sic''] until Official Merchandise is sold in Official Stores such as Toys 'R' Us, [[GameStop]], [[Best Buy]], [[Wal-Mart]], etcetera and such.

[[Chris and ego|I have spoken]], and I wish everyone a Safe and Happy Thanksgiving.

--ChrisChanSonichu 02:17, 26 [[November 2009]] (CET)}}

In other words, Chris doesn't really care if other people use his supposed intellectual property, so long as he's the one that gets the credit, not some impostor in brown stripes. The idea expressed here is not unlike that in the [[wikipedia:Creative Commons|Creative Commons]] Attribution license.

==Chris's views==
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Chris is ''very'' protective of his characters. Chris believes that his characters are officially "parodies", thus, he is allowed to create his multimedia empire on a legal loophole. What Chris fails to realize that is that parodies are essentially mockeries of something they're based on, done for laughs or as a commentary on the original work. According to the [[Wikipedia:Supreme Court of the United States|US Supreme Court]], parody "is the use of some elements of a prior author's composition to create a new one that, at least in part, comments on that author's works." So if Chris was, say, making commentary on commercialization by making a pastiche of what was popular at the time, it would be fine. The fact that it is parody and not plagiarism must also be made obvious.

Sonichu and Rosechu are ''not'' parodies, just shitty recolors. Chris doesn't mean to make fun of the characters they're based on, nor make commentary of them. He slavishly imitates the kind of adventures they have in an attempt to tell his own stories. Even his most original characters are either based on [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|someone he knows]] or [[Flame the Sunbird|are cribbed extensively from existing characters]].

==Sources==
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== See also ==
*[[Liquid Chris]]
*[[Robert Simmons V]]
*[[Jimmy Hill]]
*[[Parody]]
*''[[Asperchu]]''

{{Chris and}}

Original Sonichu and Rosechu Drawing

2014-11-18T00:49:30Z

The World Is Yours: Wrong "Its"

[[Image:01June2014-Original eBay Drawing.jpg|thumb|200px|"First ever straight-from-the-creator and artist full-colored Original Sonichu and Rosechu hand-drawn and colored artwork available for sale. The main image for this sale was edited to prevent forgery during listing, but a sample of the color is the secondary photo."]]

[[Image:OriginalSonichuAndRosechuDrawingFramed.JPG|thumb|200px|"Rising Interests, AND Hurt from Trolls have instigated the increase of the Original Drawing in the relishing from the wrongful removal, so Tough. You want it; bid or PAY UP Now."]]

[[Image:OriginalSonichuAndRosechuDrawingCrotch.jpeg|thumb|200px|The inclusion of this image is to backup a previous unsolicited statement of ''"AND, in case you were paying attention, the Raichu Tail is FEMALE, just as the Rosechu that transformed from the original FEMALE Raichu HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND WILL ALWAYS BE; [[Chris and English|VAGINIA]], OVARIES, C-CUP MILKING BREASTS WITH TITS AND ALL!!!"'']]

[[Image:OriginalSonichuAndRosechuDrawingSignature.JPG|thumb|200px|"Q: Why is the drawing dated 6/14/14? That date has not occurred yet. Are you sure this is legit? A: [[Honor roll|Oops! That was a mistake]]; I meant to write 6/1/2014; an extra "4" that should be disregarded, and it can not be undone or changed since it is laminated."]]

[[Image:OriginalSonichuAndRosechuDrawingChris1.JPG|thumb|The photo Chris attached to the Facebook post advertising his third attempt to have a legitimate auction.]]

[[Image:Ebayremoval.jpg|thumb|200px|"CRAP!!! After a few days of non-eBay-influenced peace, they tore my listing DOWN AGAIN!!! UGH!!! Too many damn idiots making unsolicited offers while I am SET on the final value after the very same [[Stress|Stress]] multiple times!!!"]]

[[File:Sonichu eBay listing capture 6-16-14.png|thumb|200px|The seventh version of the listing preserved in its entirety.]]

[[File:Original Sonichu And Rosechu Drawing.JPG|thumb|Chris uploaded the colored version of his drawing on his seventh version on the 21st of June, disregarding his previous use of black-and-white as an anti-forgery countermeasure.]]

The '''Original Sonichu and Rosechu Drawing''' is a laminated [[Chris and art|hand-drawing]] of [[Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]] that [[Chris]] auctioned off on [[eBay]] to raise the funds to buy more [[Lego|Legos]]. This is the second item Chris has attempted to sell on eBay this year, the first being [[Bob Chandler|Bob's]] violin.

"Freshly thought and drawn on June 1, 2014", this picture also bears Chris's signature, although this is difficult to make out in the full-sized image. The uploaded images were originally solely in black-and-white, an apparent anti-forgery method used by Chris to protect his precious artworks from counterfeiting.

==First Two Listings==
Within the first day of bidding, the bids reached over $10,000 USD. Speculation of troll involvement is mentioned occasionally by Chris's friends on his Facebook post related to it. The first posting was removed, most likely due to Chris realizing (or being told) that he was unlikely to collect on it.

However, the listing returned on the next day, with some extra information added. Chris included a black-and-white picture of the frame he considers so goddamn important, a color closeup of his signature, a color closeup of [[Rosechu|Rosechu's]] [[China|crotch]], and an additional alleged [[Chris and copyright|copyright]] page. Verification of the signature and Rosechu's womanhood caused bids to skyrocket, with bids quickly reaching $15,000 USD. It's important to note that eBay does impose some limits on how much a seller can sell an item for without paying additional fees.

==Protecting His Valuable Intellectual Property==
Chris also makes some [[Chris and copyright|untested copyright claims]]:

{{Quote|ALL Sonichu, Rosechu, Cwcville and such material is Copyrighted March, 2000 by Christian Weston Chandler, with Full Paperwork backed up in Washington DC. Any names, persons or characters and such illustrated in the past Original Comic Book Pages, LittleBiGPlanet 1, 2, PSP and Vita Levels under the PSN ID of "Sonichu", and all direct content from the Creator, Christian Weston Chandler, NOT originating from said Creator that may seem similar to anyone past or present, as well as under other respective ownerships, are purely coincidental or otherwise parodic. Ownership of Original characters of Pikachu, [[Pokémon|Pok'emon]] and Sonic the Hedgehog are those of Nintendo and SEGA of America respectively. The drawing that is being sold on eBay now is an Original artwork created by the original Creator of Christian Weston Chandler, and is solely being sold as an artwork with no original intent of [[Chris and money|profit]]|Chris}}

==Third Time's The Charm==
On the third day of bidding, the posting was taken down again, only to have Chris replace it with an identical one (minus the questions from prospective buyers). It is unknown if this is because eBay removed it, or Chris realized he was being fucked with again. He also appeared to stop accepting future inquires regarding the item, likely due to [[Trolls|misuse]] of it. He also made another [[Facebook]] post, again attempting to assert the authenticity of the item.

The original price was $5,000 Buy It Now or Best Offer, later reduced to $2,500. On Wednesday, June 04, 2014, a scant four days after the creation of the 'Original Sonichu and Rosechu Drawing', Chris accepted a 'Best Offer' of $1,000 for his artwork, however, the buyer backed out the next day. Chris also appears to have removed (or possibly also managed to sell) his [[Bob Chandler|father's]] Stradivarius violin.

==Fourth Listing==
After the previous [[trolls|buyer]] wouldn't pay up, Chris relisted the drawing on eBay with a $1,000 Buy It Now price and no auction. The sale is also a 'Pay It Now', meaning it must be paid for as soon as it is bought, so there is no chance of anyone 'buying' it and then backing out.

Chris later summarized his experiences thus far on Facebook:
{{quotebox|With eBay constantly removing my listing for this SAME, SINGULAR ARTWORK Four Times the past week, and the offer-maker who offered 1,000 on the last listing Totally Bailed! I am super frustrated and I am just SET on one thousand or bust on this SAME drawing what my venture with it having been [[Stress|Really Too Much]]. And [[Barbara Chandler|my mother]] and I [[Legos|REALLY NEED THE MONEY]]. Please Buy and Pay in Full Now!}}

With this update, Chris has revealed that some of the removals of listings were due to eBay removing them. He also attempts to garner sympathy by reminding us all that the money is for his mother and him to live off of, as opposed to, say, [[Legos]], for instance.

The fourth listing was eventually removed by eBay as a result of Chris asking people to make him offers on the drawing outside of the official eBay interface. He immediately removed the offending clause and relisted it with everything else intact.

{{quotebox|I will be relisting Again, and I will make it Very Clear: NO OFFERS LESS THAN THE BUY IT NOW PRICE WILL BE ACCEPTED, AND ANY AND ALL OFFERS WILL BE READ AND DISREGARDED. I am not ignorant! I read all of those comments before I deleted them on the listing link here on Facebook.

My 72-Year Old Mother and I Really Need the Money. Why the hell send your money to the damn Cwcki and it's Forums when the Actual Artist and his family could use the money better for [[Legos|Debt relief]] and a living. Good Grief!!!}}

==Fifth Listing==
By 8 June, it was removed for a fifth time and Chris's eBay account was restricted from listing new items for 3 days due to repeated ToS violations. According to messages from eBay administration to Chris, posted by himself on Facebook for some inexplicable reason, these violations include 'direct sales', '[[Facebook|inappropriate links]]', and 'brand name misuse' (likely due to the usage of [[Nintendo|various]] [[Sega|copyrighted]] [[Sony|names]] in the listing). He reacted to this by demanding on Facebook that people [[Chris and his Ego| donate $1,000 to him via PayPal]]. He also betrayed the fact that he believed it was actually the troll bidding that got his listing pulled, not simultaneously soliciting sales on Facebook (a violation under the terms of service, as it allows the seller to avoid having to pay certain fees). The fact that Chris received several emails from eBay explaining the exact reason of these sanctions against him suggests that he didn't read (or agree with) the entirety of said emails.

{{quotebox|Are You All HAPPY NOW?!!! Because of ALL OF YOU DAMN TROLLS pushing and Pushing and PUSHING ME, NOW I will not be able to list or relist for THREE DAYS!!! }:(( I am Super [[Chris and anger|Angry]] at most Everyone for REALLY Letting the Oxygen Out Of My Tank!!!

The ONLY WAY YOU ALL CAN MAKE THIS UP TO ME RIGHT NOW, RIGHT FREAKING NOW!!! SEND ME $1,000.00, American Dollars, via PayPal to iammrc@aol.com. Quit Donating to the Hate-Crap-Filled Cwcki and it's Forum, and PAY ME!!! Money is Really Tight with me and my mother here!!!}}

{{quotebox|Why the hell send your money, Donating to the Hate-Crap-Filled Cwcki and it's Forum, when the Actual Artist and Creator, who has not received ONE RED CENT for ANYTHING "inspired" from my own works SOLD over the freaking, Damnable Internet and its even More Damnable Social Websites, or Wherever, and his family could use the money better for Debt relief And a [[Monthly tugboat|Living from a Tight, Low Budget!]].}}

By this point, his Facebook friends have repeatedly told him that begging for money and making demands is unlikely to make people want to help him, and that his art only really holds value to trolls. Several of them also suggest using a venue other than eBay to sell his wares, or to take commissions. Experience suggests that it is exceedingly [[Chris and his Ego|unlikely that Chris will listen to the advice of others]].

Later in the day, Chris seems to have calmed down somewhat. Despite almost-unanimous commentary on his previous Facebook status, telling him that his price is too high and that maybe he'd have more success selling more pieces at a lower cost, Chris remains unwavering in his belief that this piece (or perhaps the time and effort spent trying to sell it) is absolutely worth a grand.

{{quotebox|At this point, I will sell the framed drawing to the first person who sends me $1,000.00, [[Honor roll|USA American]] via PayPal (see earlier post). Please provide your name and US Mailing address in the details.

After that, and after the three day suspension, I will be more reasonably priced on future drawings. But if no one sends the $1,000.00, the still current drawing will be relisted for the full $1,000.00, regardless.}}

==During the Ban==
On June 9th, a buyer (presumably the one that 'bought' the piece before backing out and leaving Chris holding a big bag of fuck-all instead of a ten thousand dollar payday) left negative feedback on Chris's eBay account.
{{quoteboxred|Refuses to cooperate. Extremely rude and threatening. Blocks buyer no replies.}}

==Sixth Listing==
On June 12th, true to his word, Chris relisted the picture as soon as his ban had expired. Chris did not link to the posting on his Facebook status. The price remained at $1000, showing that Chris did however completely ignore all advice recommending he lower his prices.

{{quote|No Offers of Lower Value Will Be Accepted, PERIOD!!! NO DIRECT SALES EITHER!!! BUY IT NOW AND PAY IN FULL ONLY!!! I am Sick and Tired of eBay constantly removing my ONE listing for the ONE Artwork/Drawing that I have still YET to sell!!! UGH!!! My 72-Year Old Mother and I Really Need the Money. Why the hell send your money to the damn Cwcki and it's Forums when the Actual Artist and his family could use the money better for Debt relief and a living. Good Grief!!!|Chris, introducing the new and improved eBay posting}}

The statement of 'no direct sales' can either be interpreted as Chris claiming he will not attempt to sell the piece through Facebook again, or a disclaimer that he will not accept 'direct sales', which would suggest he still doesn't fully understand the reason of his ban.

==The Second Ban==
{{quote|UGH! Persephone, fuck me; the listing got removed AGAIN!!!|Chris, June 13}}

Soon after, the sale was removed ''again''. Chris received another three-day ban from selling any items on eBay.

==Seventh Listing (seriously, Chris, this isn't funny anymore)==
On June 16th, Chris relisted the image once more, standing his ground with the price of $1000. He posted a link to his eBay account, which may or may not be the exact reason of his multiple removals and (so far) two selling bans. The description of the item more closely resembled what it had originally been, before a combination of both the trolls placing fake bids and eBay taking issue with Chris's disregard for the rules had created the circus we see today. He retained the lengthy [[Chris and copyright|copyright]] paragraph, which also may have been a reason for Chris to be considered breaking the Terms of Service of eBay.

Early on June 17th, Chris dropped the price to $500. He later explained (in answer to a question nobody asked) why he has declined exactly 245 offers separate from his Buy It Now price.:

{{quotebox|I only declined the offers for good reasons: 0 Feedback are often Trolls; if they Really can offer MORE than the asking price or close equal, then they can afford to Buy It Now; I am very, reasonably paranoid.

So there.}}

On June 21st, Chris changed the image to a new photograph of the framed picture in color. It is unknown what caused him to abandon this security measure.

Bidding ended at 10:33 PM, on June 22nd (in Chris's timezone), several seconds before the timer expired, when Chris accepted the best offer.

Shortly after the auction concluded (for now), Chris had this to say:
{{quotebox|I took the more reasonable offer that was made closest to the end of the Sonichu and Rosechu drawing's listing. If no payment is received, it will be relisted after a week. The Violin IS NOT FAKE OR COUNTERFEIT, you damn bored, hateful, despicable, immature, uncaring bastards.}}

The buyer of the masterpiece sent a positive feedback in eBay on June 23rd saying:
{{quoteboxred|Can't wait to get this man. It's so hard to find decent rolling papers nowadays.}}

The buyer felt that the original price he paid was a bit too high. He sent another feedback on June 26th saying:
{{quoteboxred|You think you could sell me this for $20 though? I'll trade you my good vase too}}

== The More Things Change... ==
By June 30, Chris explained via Facebook that the buyer 'flaked out' on him. Despite failing once again to sell this single piece of art, Chris then went on to list '''three''' more pieces for sale on his [[eBay]] account: "Original Sonichu Drawing: Sonichu's Zapping Boom, June 14, 2014", "(Read Description) Original Commissions From Sonichu And Rosechu's Creator", and "Original Rosechu & Sonichu Drawing: Sweethearts Playing a Round, June 30, 2014."

== Change of Business Model ==
{{main|Autographed Photos|Commissions}}
On the 1st of July Chris posted two more eBay drawings (both priced at $100 or more), and he began accepting [[Commissions|commissions]] for other drawings. He also posted a listing for multiple $20 [[Autographed Photos|photos of himself]], titled "Autographed Photo Of Sonichu And Rosechu's Creator".

{{quote|Straight from the creator and artist, Christian Weston Chandler (myself), you may now have a more current headshot photograph of the artist, complete with his personal autograph and optional message. NO LOCAL PICKUP AVAILABLE, at the Personal Risk of myself, the Original Creator and Artist..|Chris, whoring out his [[Chris and his Ego|valuable]] autographed headshots.}}

== No More Listings ==
On 1 July 2014, the actual Original Sonichu and Rosechu Drawing was purchased for $200 by [[Slow-in-the-mind|an unknown person]] for unknown reasons. It can be inferred that the drawing was paid for because Chris shipped it. The buyer gave the following feedback:

{{quoteboxred|I absolutely love it! :) Super fast shipping too! Thank you so much, Chris}}

==Specifications==
Note: all descriptions have been described by Chris himself, and remain to be verified.
*Medium: Ink
*Subject: Fantasy
*Style: Pop Art
*Size: 8.5 X 11
*Date of Creation: 2000-Now

==External Links==
[http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Sonichu-And-Rosechu-Drawing-June-1-2014-/191216311183?pt=Art_Drawings&hash=item2c85615b8f Current Listing (closed)]

[[Category:Sonichu artwork]]
[[Category:EBay]]

Talk:Sonic the Hedgehog

2014-11-16T23:59:50Z

The World Is Yours: /* Is Chris serious? */

==To do==
*compare official Sonic image with Chris's shitty version
*appearances by Sonic in the comic
*his role in becoming Sonichu
*his role in the CWC universe

whoa, nod flenders effect. all i can see is wrong, miscolored sonichu. [[User:Jump|Jump]] 07:23, 3 July 2009 (CEST)

==the full summary of [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcki/index.php?title=Sonic_The_Hedgehog&diff=34262&oldid=34257 my edit]==
Just for anyone who's wondering.

''I'm quite certain the "teachings" from Sonic were from AOSTH (the Sonic the Hedgehog cartoon Chris watched); at the end of each episode a segment before the credits called "Sonic Says" (or "Sonic Sez" if you're a horrible speller like Tails) would appear, with Sonic teaching kids moral lessons somewhat related or not related at all to the episode the kids watched. It's possible, [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes|as Chrissy entered a contest related to the "Sonic Says" segments and randomly won (which triggered all the shit that happening now to him).]]''

so yeah --[[User:USAJAP1|USAJAP1]] 10:40, 18 October 2009 (CEST)

== SEGA redirects here ==

Does it warrant it's own article? [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 02:46, 26 October 2009 (CET)

== Added Nostalgia Critic link ==

* I think it's a pretty good crash course in the shows for people who never gave a shit about Sonic as a kid and still don't today. --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 21:10, 25 November 2009 (CET)

==More interested in furry aspects==

It has always come off to me that, while he likes the old-school Sonic games, he more enjoyed the cartoons in the 90s and the later games because they're filled to the brim with furry crap. That's just been my observation. [[User:IMB706|IMB706]] 13:35, 8 December 2009 (CET)

== The Archie Comics ==

Chris has mentioned the Archie Sonic comics a few times in mailbags and other places, and I've noticed there are elements in his stories and comic structure reminiscent of the Archie comics. Think there's enough info to warrant a section or even a page on the Archie Sonic comics? [[User:Double Nega|Double Nega]] 23:40, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
*Agreed. --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]]
*I started it off, but I leave it to people with more time to flesh it out. i'll provide whatever information I can think of. Firstly I think Mary Lee Walsh's design may have been inspired by the Iron Queen.[[User:Double Nega|Double Nega]] 02:20, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
**Here's another one: In StH #50 Julian (SatAM) Robotnik was killed by his own weapon, the Ultimate Annihilator. He was later replaced by another version of himself from an alternate timeline. This version would then go on to become the main antagonist for the book, Dr. Eggman. Could Chris have possibly used this "alternate doppelganger" plot device to fuel his "Two Marys" theory? --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]]
***I doubt the Iron Queen theory floats. Remember, the Iron Queen was just a one-shot villain that appeared after the original Robotnik was killed off in the comics (I think it was issue 60). She didn't get her chance to shine until just recently when writer Ian Flynn resurrected the character and made her an actual threat. I could, though, buy the two Marys deal. The character Naistirch, though, may be analog to Evil Sonic/Scourge the Hedgehog--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 20:24, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
****Ah, yeah you're right. It's most likely just coincidence. IQ showed up in 1998, which was a few years before the MLW saga. Though its possible that Chris might have had a strange attachment to the character. Until he tells us otherwise, then it is very unlikely. I've been trying to mailbag him about the comic, but the sysop doesn't seem interested in those emails. Maybe we can send more emails to him?[[User:Double Nega|Double Nega]] 12:32, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

It's not really fair to be calling the Archie series bad. The only time it was truly Sonichu levels of horrible was during Ken Penders/Karl Bollers run. After they were fired in 2006, the comic became a fun, kid-friendly, and enjoyable read for all ages. Much of the furry drama was removed and it became a fun read. I tried to edit the article to reflect that a bit.[[User:Double Nega|Double Nega]] 07:38, 17 May 2011 (PDT)
:If you could find a way to do it in fewer words, that would be nice. Thing is, right now there's a caption half the size of the associated image and it looks hideous. I don't know exactly why it matters that it got better, but if you really want it there it needs to be smaller. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 08:00, 17 May 2011 (PDT)
The role of the CWCki is to chronicle and sometimes point out the faults of Chris, not to review comics Chris didn't create. I'm going to remove a few words that knock the Sonic comic. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 09:13, 24 November 2011 (PST)

== Sonic the Pickle ==

[http://www.destructoid.com/sonic-the-polish-pickle-164889.phtml]

I'm sure we can use this to some extent?[[User:Double Nega|Double Nega]] 02:31, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
* It would be funny, but seeing no one has replied yet... yeah. --[[User:GandWuser|GandWuser]] 15:47, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

== Sonic Contest ==

http://www.sonicthehedgehog4.com/contest/

Do you think Chris will enter?

== Hey ==

Does anyone think that we should do a section on what the sonic fanbase thinks of Chris? [[User:GOTDANG|GOTDANG]] 6:36 3 July 2010
* You mean like the one on the [[Autism]] page? --[[User:GandWuser|GandWuser]] 15:47, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, well the Sonic fanbase is already a laughing stock, there has to be a few butthurt sonic fanboys due to Chris's presence [[User:GOTDANG|GOTDANG]] 5:32, 4 July 2010

== Contradictions ==

Just thought I'd point out that Chris claims Sonic was his hero since 1990, but then a user suggests that Chris probably learnt about Sonic from the cartoon which wasn't aired until 1993; why would Chris lie about when he heard about Sonic?

--[[User:Gustofwind|Gustofwind]] 21:03, 7 May 2011 (PDT)

== Knuckles? ==

Even though he doesnt really make an apperence in the comic, he is an obvious inspiration of punchy. He is also mentioned in Chris's Nintendo Power book he made. Do you think it would be a good idea to add a little about Knuckles in this page too? If so I would be glad to add it in. Just an idea... --[[User:Cupcake299|Cupcake299]] 11:38, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

== Sonic's Size ==
Length: 5'4"
I find this very hard to believe. He looks like 4'8" tops in most of the media I've seen and a bit shorter in the older games and cartoons. Where did this stat come from?
* I think it's based on the Sonichu comics rather than the actual games. Also, please sign your post with 4 tildes (~) [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 08:05, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

== Is Chris serious? ==
I don't mean to be an [[A-Logging|A-Logger]], but is Chris serious? He cannot be serious. He is getting ticked over over '''arm color changes''', in a game/TV show/franchise that's not even canon. Not to mention, he is sending [[death threats]] to a company that's most likely not going to listen to him whine about what he believes is a change worse than Hitler killing innocent [[Michael Snyder|Jews]]. --[[User:FromtheWordsofBR|FromtheWordsofBR]] ([[User talk:FromtheWordsofBR|talk]]) 19:56, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

*Most likely serious, and plus the Sonic fanbase is also riled up about this. Also, please use talk pages for improvements of articles rather than as forums. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 10:09, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

1. Even the fanbase is getting worked over arm color changes? Of course, given that ''Sonic'''s fanbase is among the most notoriously unpleaseable, I probably shouldn't be surprised.
2. Oops. --[[User:FromtheWordsofBR|FromtheWordsofBR]] ([[User talk:FromtheWordsofBR|talk]]) 11:58, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

*Seems like we've become privy to yet another of Chris' hot buttons, like, Rosechu with a penis. I'd imagine that if Sonichu was still going on as well, he could be easily trolled just by making Sonichu's arms yellow in fan art or something. Kinda late for that to have any effect now though.--[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 23:59, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

ShecameforCWC.JPG

2014-11-15T21:57:41Z

The World Is Yours: /* Analysis */ That part has always really bothered me. The waist doesn't nip in to make the hips "appear" more pronounced. The hip bones DO expand to make their waists look more slender. So, whoever wrote this before had it opposite, I think.

{{quote|And by the way, that is not [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|Crystal]] whose eyes are censored; that is [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]]!|Chris, [[CWC's Second Message|Captain's Log, Stardate August 3rd, 2008]]}}

[[File:ShecameforCWC (200803).JPG|thumb|"Your sister has cum for me"]]

'''ShecameforCWC.JPG''' is a [[Rule 34]] picture that [[Chris]] drew as part of a campaign to fight the [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] by "replacing negativity with positivity."<ref>[[List of Christian's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica]]</ref> Arguably the most controversial of all of Chris's artistic canon, this single image managed to invoke much drama. It put an end to the closest relationship Chris ever had with a non-family member - his friendship with [[Megan Schroeder]], and the consequences of uploading it online [[ShecameforCWC.JPG#today|continued to face Chris for years afterwards]].

At first, people believed the picture to be of his imaginary twin sister [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|Crystal Weston Chandler]]. In order to defend his fictional sister's honor, Chris edited the article to confirm that it was in fact Megan.<ref>[[List of Christian's edits to Encyclopedia Dramatica#March 2008|Chris confirms Megan's identity on the 18th March, 2008.]]</ref> He also angrily decried these scurrilous rumors in [[Captain's Log, Stardate August 3rd, 2008|an Internet video]], shouting that it was Megan. While this is less disturbing than Chris wanting to have an incestuous relation with his own fictitious twin sister, it is notably creepy that it is of his only friend, with whom he had no romantic or sexual relationship.

==Background==
When Chris first discovered the ED page, he was disturbed by the number of [[pickle|pickles]] on the site. Using his powers of [[autism]] logic, Chris decided that the best response would be to replace these images with images of things that Chris likes, hence "replacing negativity with positivity."

On 11 November [[2007]], Chris uploaded several new, original images to ED, including ShecameforCWC.JPG. All were varying degrees of horrifying, but ShecameforCWC.JPG proved to be the most controversial, leaving [[trolls]] in total shock.

==Analysis==
[[File:ShecameforCWCanatomy.JPG|thumb|Anatomical analysis]]

The drawing fails in so many ways that it manages to capture the true essence of fail that is Chris:

*The [[Chris and art|artistic skills]] of an eight-year-old; depth perception and proportion are nonexistent. She looks as flat as the paper upon which she was drawn.
*A complete unfamiliarity with the female anatomy. The [[China|vagina]] is not one long hole and you could never do that sort of thing with a real vagina, looking like that.
*Megan's body lacks all curves whatsoever. Chris should probably start paying better attention to women in porn, as then he would know that girls' hips become more pronounced, thus making it appear as if their waists nip in, instead of being straight up and down [[Pedofork|like a little boy]].
*Unfamiliarity with human anatomy in general. Megan's legs seem to start right at the groin while her hips are directly behind them. Her right hand seems to be permanently stuck doing the [[Wikipedia:Vulcan salute|Vulcan salute]] from ''[[Wikipedia:Star Trek|Star Trek]]''. Also, it looks like neither Chris nor Megan have elbows, joints or even bones for that matter. What is supposed to be her foot looks like a deformed flipper.
*Chris is somehow reaching over his left shoulder with his right hand despite the fact that his elbow remains near his side, creating an effect straight out of [[Wikipedia:M. C. Escher|M. C. Escher]]'s darkest nightmares.
*Megan's right nipple looks at first to be a sixth finger, suggesting that Chris messed up (more than usual) while drawing the hand and decided to turn it into a nipple.
*The [[China|vagina]] in question appears to be either glowing or shooting out a powerful gust of wind. Chris probably meant to convey that Megan was "wet" and/or "[[Masturbating and squirtin'|squirtin']]," but due to his own stupidity he drew her "[[Wikipedia:Female ejaculate|cum]]" around and outside the vagina instead of coming from inside it, leading to the "Glowing Ethereal Cunt of the Ages" effect shown in the picture. Also, pussy juice is not blue.
*Megan's pubic hair, which was probably supposed to be a [[Wikipedia:Landing strip (pubic hair)|landing strip]], in this drawing bears a slight resemblance to [[Wikipedia:Adolf Hitler|Hitler]]'s mustache (coincidentally, Megan had a fetish for German soldiers). It is also quite far up on her body, and looks like some kind of messed-up [[Wikipedia:Abdominal hair|happy trail]] instead of pubic hair.
*Close attention to the parts that interest Chris, namely [[China|genitalia]] and breasts, yet a tiny head he had to squeeze in, most likely because he started with the former and realized "Oh, she needs a face."
*In contrast, Chris pays close attention to his [[Medallion of Fail]], his [[heterochromia]], etc.
*Note the retarded pun, a reinforcement of Chris's narcissism, that when a woman orgasms, it's for his sake and not her own pleasure (as he titled it "''She''came''For''CWC", emphasis added). Plus, a smug look on his face as he gives a thumbs up while fingering her seals the deal.
*He's wearing his [[Sonichu medallion]] while fingering a woman. He stated that ideally, he'd like to be wearing his medallion for his first time.<ref>[[Chris Sex Logs#My first time|Chris Sex Logs]]</ref>
*The fact that this is his best and only friend, Megan, and he sees nothing wrong with it other than the fact that it's on the Internet where she can see it.

==Motivation==
Chris apparently thought that uploading pictures of vaginas would counter-act the homosexuality prevalent on the ED page.<ref>[[Megan emails, 2008#Chris thinks she was scarred because she doesn't know much about sex]]</ref> He posted pornographic drawings of several shippings from the comics, which happened to include him and Megan. He and Megan had some sort of self-fulfillment relationship in the comics, so we can assume Chris was imagining this from the very beginning.

==Drama==
===With ED===
When Chris first uploaded the image to ED, he captioned it "Your sister has cum for me." Exactly what he meant here is disputed, but it had the unintended effect of leading ED's users to widely conclude that the picture represented ''Chris's'' sister, the fictional character [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|Crystal]]. ([[Chris and art|Given the nature of Chris’s artwork, any two females with long brown hair are easily mistaken for each other]].)

Over the next few months, the image was removed and replaced a few times over the course of Chris's simmering edit war against ED. It didn’t become a serious hot potato until [[March 2008]], however, when [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]] discovered the picture and learned that it was meant to be a picture of her. (Chris, not realizing that it would probably be better to cut his losses and let the trolls believe that he wanted to screw his imaginary sister, spilled the beans himself.) In between bombarding Megan with apologies via e-mail, he went on a desperate campaign to remove the image from his ED page.

Chris spent most of a week trying to remove the image, trying to delete references to Megan from the article, trying to erase random bits of the article in order to camouflage his real intentions, and otherwise failing to realize that once something goes up on a wiki, you can’t make it come back down. Amazingly, he even tried to replace the image with a [[:File:TomTomCloseup.jpg|cropped version]] which just involved the vagina, as though Megan were only angry about her and Chris's facial features being depicted and would be satisfied if the image just showed his hand disappearing up her radiant quim. ED admins quickly reverted his edits and eventually protected the page once it was obvious that Chris was up to something.

On 18 March, Chris admitted defeat in his own disturbing way, and edited the image’s caption — as well as several other captions around the article — to make it clear that the woman depicted is Megan, not Crystal. Over the next few days, he made a number of other self-deprecating and self-pitying changes and additions to the page, including the "[[You know what, I HATE ME TOO!!!]]" series of images, before giving up on editing ED for six months.

===With Megan===

By 12 March 2008, Megan had discovered the full extent of what Chris had written and drawn about her around the Internet, and particularly the fact that she'd starred in his cartoon fantasy porn. While failing to get the image off the ED page over the next several days, Chris sent her a series of messages trying to put out the fire.

Some of his attempts to "explain" the image to Megan are downright bizarre. It's hard to do justice to the [[Megan_Emails, 2008#Chris_apologizes_for_something.2C_what_could_it_be.3F|original e-mails]]. At one point he seemed to think Megan was offended because she didn't understand the act on display, and went off on a frighteningly awkward explanation of what a handjob is. In another e-mail, Chris confirmed the suspicion of many trolls — that he had entertained thoughts of sexually assaulting Megan.

{{quote|If I didn't have the foresight to put my pent-up frustrations and feelings in the form of something, I might have become an abusive maniac...|Chris, [[Megan Emails, 2008#Chris_continues_bothering_her_about_ED|e-mail to Megan, 18 March 2008]]}}

Generally, Chris's "apologies" are a classic display of his insensitivity and awesome narcissism in action. He shows little remorse for creating and publishing the image while offering plenty of woe-is-me whining about the bullies from ED. In a message from 18 March, he actually had the gall to tell Megan that no matter how bad she might be feeling, he himself has definitely got it worse.

After sending several messages and receiving little in the way of response from Megan, Chris appears to have given up on winning back her trust, which coincides with the slackening of his campaign to remove the image from ED and the increasingly self-hating tone of his edits there. On 23 March, Megan finally sent him two brief replies to the effect of "leave me alone." Those mark the end of the active drama over the image. Chris stopped editing ED around the same time.

As a coda to the fiasco, Chris tried once more to repair his relationship with Megan about a month later, sending a message with a mix of everyday news and creepy stalkerish longing. Given some time to consider the implications of his earlier messages, especially the parts where he brought up the prospect of raping her, Megan slammed the door shut, saying "I'm afraid I can't trust you anymore." This remains their last known communication.

It is debatable how dramatic was the effect of ShecameforCWC on Chris's relationship with Megan. While it is beyond dispute that Megan severed all contact with Chris due to said image, it might be that she was already trying to avoid his presence prior to discovering he had drawn cartoon porn of her.

Mimms and [[Lucas]] account of Chris's time at the The GAMe PLACe indicates that Megan was avoiding Chris before finding out about ShecameforCWC. According to Mimms "Megan would usually stand/hide behind me and Lucas to avoid [Chris], '''especially after the drawings of her got leaked''' [emphasis added]."<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A#Initial post]]</ref> It's not exactly clear if by "leaked" Mimms refers to the drawing being uploaded online, the drawing being found by Megan or something else. Regardless, in the rest of their discussion of Megan Mimms and Lucas make no mentions of ShecameforCWC and seem to exclusively attribute Megan's withdrawal from Chris to his unwanted romantic advances.<ref>[[The GAMe PLACe#Chris and Megan]]</ref>

==Today==
[[File:Crumple-lope.jpg|right|thumb|The envelope.]]

{{quote|It was Wishful Thinking.|Chris, describing his motive for drawing ShecameforCWC, [[Rejected Mailbag]]}}

Christian's remorse turned out, not surprisingly, to be fake as he went and reuploaded the picture for his sleazy [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack]], citing the fact he needed "sexy images".<ref>[[Mumble 9.5|Mumble Chat 9.5]]</ref> The pain he caused a female friend means nothing compared to his lust for e-fame. The original drawing itself is said to be ripped up and stored in a [[CWC-isms|"Crumple-Lope"]]. <ref>[[Mumble 3|Mumble Chat 3]]</ref>

Years later, the consequences of creating the drawing are still being felt by Chris. In an e-mail sent to someone around October 2013 by a former high school [[gal pal]] of Chris's, she revealed that she was so sickened and disgusted by the imagery (in particular, Chris's "thumbs up" gesture) that she had no desire to ever speak to Chris again, and noted that she was not the only one of Chris's former high school classmates who felt that way.<ref>[[October_2013_Facebook_Posts#Reality_Comes_Knocking|October 2013 Facebook Posts]]</ref>

On 4 November 2013, Chris put out a statement saying he regretted drawing ShecameforCWC.jpg, stating that he destroyed the original drawing and "do[es] not possess any image files of the thing". He also stated he forgave Megan, Snyder and Walsh.<ref>[[November_2013_Facebook_Posts#That_Dang_Drawing|November 2013 Facebook Posts]]</ref>

{{clear}}

==See also==
*[[CWCRockin4Way.jpg]] - Chris graduates from a handjob to an all-out rockstar orgy. His drawing style hasn't improved.
== Sources ==
<references />
{{MeganSaga}}
[[Category:Rule 34]]
[[Category:Megan Saga]]
[[Category:ED Saga]]

Talk:Halloween

2014-11-06T00:24:35Z

The World Is Yours: /* 2014 */

== 2011 ==
Chris did spend Halloween 2011 in jail, didn't he? The article says he got out on bail Nov. 4, 2011 after the incident and arrest Oct. 28, 2011. Did Chris spend his Halloween in a cell outside of 14 Branchland Court? and if so, shouldn't it be mentioned? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 00:55, 6 November 2011 (PDT)
:If he was arrested on the 28th and bailed out 2 days later, he definitely didn't spend ALL of Halloween in jail, if any of it. Unless there's something I'm missing. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 07:39, 6 November 2011 (PST)

==2014==
When Chris said "70s lesbian chic," I think he meant the word that means "stylishness and elegance, typically of a specified kind" The noun that means female would be "chick"
Therefore, the diction in this article isn't correct when it says
"Chris spent Halloween 2014 patronizing the "Impulse Gay Social-Club" dressed as a "70s Lesbian Chic"."

Then again, this is Chris...he could have meant "chick"
Thoughts? [[User:LOLlolcow|LOLlolcow]] ([[User talk:LOLlolcow|talk]]) 22:59, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

* He posted "70s Lesbian Chic" on Facebook, so perhaps it's worth a [sic] mention. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 06:46, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

* I never agreed "patronized" was the correct word to use after I read the Facebook posts. It made it seem like he went out to cause a riot, yet, he seemed perfectly content and happy being there. That's not "patronizing". --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 14:24, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

** Um, what? Going to some establishment such as a bar and being a customer makes you a "patron" of the place, hence "patronizing". Where do you get the idea of being riotous from that? [[User:Nate-Kar Sonichu|Nathan]] ([[User talk:Nate-Kar Sonichu|talk]]) 19:27, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

** http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/patronize While you're definition isn't incorrect, I think most people usually think of definition #2 whenever this word is seen. Given what we know about Chris as well, with his *former* attitude toward homosexuals, the use of the word painted a very different picture at first glance. Can you see it now? --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 00:24, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Halloween

2014-11-06T00:24:17Z

The World Is Yours: /* 2014 */

== 2011 ==
Chris did spend Halloween 2011 in jail, didn't he? The article says he got out on bail Nov. 4, 2011 after the incident and arrest Oct. 28, 2011. Did Chris spend his Halloween in a cell outside of 14 Branchland Court? and if so, shouldn't it be mentioned? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 00:55, 6 November 2011 (PDT)
:If he was arrested on the 28th and bailed out 2 days later, he definitely didn't spend ALL of Halloween in jail, if any of it. Unless there's something I'm missing. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 07:39, 6 November 2011 (PST)

==2014==
When Chris said "70s lesbian chic," I think he meant the word that means "stylishness and elegance, typically of a specified kind" The noun that means female would be "chick"
Therefore, the diction in this article isn't correct when it says
"Chris spent Halloween 2014 patronizing the "Impulse Gay Social-Club" dressed as a "70s Lesbian Chic"."

Then again, this is Chris...he could have meant "chick"
Thoughts? [[User:LOLlolcow|LOLlolcow]] ([[User talk:LOLlolcow|talk]]) 22:59, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

* He posted "70s Lesbian Chic" on Facebook, so perhaps it's worth a [sic] mention. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 06:46, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

* I never agreed "patronized" was the correct word to use after I read the Facebook posts. It made it seem like he went out to cause a riot, yet, he seemed perfectly content and happy being there. That's not "patronizing". --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 14:24, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

** Um, what? Going to some establishment such as a bar and being a customer makes you a "patron" of the place, hence "patronizing". Where do you get the idea of being riotous from that? [[User:Nate-Kar Sonichu|Nathan]] ([[User talk:Nate-Kar Sonichu|talk]]) 19:27, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

** http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/patronize
**While you're definition isn't incorrect, I think most people usually think of definition #2 whenever this word is seen. Given what we know about Chris as well, with his *former* attitude toward homosexuals, the use of the word painted a very different picture at first glance. Can you see it now? --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 00:24, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Halloween

2014-11-06T00:24:00Z

The World Is Yours: /* 2014 */

== 2011 ==
Chris did spend Halloween 2011 in jail, didn't he? The article says he got out on bail Nov. 4, 2011 after the incident and arrest Oct. 28, 2011. Did Chris spend his Halloween in a cell outside of 14 Branchland Court? and if so, shouldn't it be mentioned? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 00:55, 6 November 2011 (PDT)
:If he was arrested on the 28th and bailed out 2 days later, he definitely didn't spend ALL of Halloween in jail, if any of it. Unless there's something I'm missing. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 07:39, 6 November 2011 (PST)

==2014==
When Chris said "70s lesbian chic," I think he meant the word that means "stylishness and elegance, typically of a specified kind" The noun that means female would be "chick"
Therefore, the diction in this article isn't correct when it says
"Chris spent Halloween 2014 patronizing the "Impulse Gay Social-Club" dressed as a "70s Lesbian Chic"."

Then again, this is Chris...he could have meant "chick"
Thoughts? [[User:LOLlolcow|LOLlolcow]] ([[User talk:LOLlolcow|talk]]) 22:59, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

* He posted "70s Lesbian Chic" on Facebook, so perhaps it's worth a [sic] mention. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 06:46, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

* I never agreed "patronized" was the correct word to use after I read the Facebook posts. It made it seem like he went out to cause a riot, yet, he seemed perfectly content and happy being there. That's not "patronizing". --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 14:24, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

** Um, what? Going to some establishment such as a bar and being a customer makes you a "patron" of the place, hence "patronizing". Where do you get the idea of being riotous from that? [[User:Nate-Kar Sonichu|Nathan]] ([[User talk:Nate-Kar Sonichu|talk]]) 19:27, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

** http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/patronize
While you're definition isn't incorrect, I think most people usually think of definition #2 whenever this word is seen. Given what we know about Chris as well, with his *former* attitude toward homosexuals, the use of the word painted a very different picture at first glance. Can you see it now? --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 00:24, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Halloween

2014-11-03T14:24:04Z

The World Is Yours: /* 2014 */

Talk:Catherine

2014-10-14T21:51:06Z

The World Is Yours: /* Screaming girl in closet? */

I am going for increased readability.

--[[User:IoulianosApostate|IoulianosApostate]] ([[User talk:IoulianosApostate|talk]]) 05:00, 7 October 2014 (UTC)IoulianosApostate

If Catherine truly is the name of the [[2014 Anonymous Sweetheart]], I personally think this article needs to be merged with [[2014 Anonymous Sweetheart]]. Have that article's name re-named to "Catherine", put both of the photos on the page, have a link to "[[I Love You, Catherine]]"...I'd love to see this article merged. [[User:FromtheWordsofBR|FromtheWordsofBR]] ([[User talk:FromtheWordsofBR|talk]]) 20:02, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

We're not 100% that they are though; it's just the best assumption at the moment. So, I think it should remain split until we know for certain, then, yes, they can be merged. Until then, they could still be two entirely different people. Who knows with Chris sometimes.--[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 21:22, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

True. --[[User:FromtheWordsofBR|FromtheWordsofBR]] ([[User talk:FromtheWordsofBR|talk]]) 21:52, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

== Screaming girl in closet? ==

Oh, come on, did you just straight up make that up? Cite some parts in the video that show that. [[User:Boomhauer|Boomhauer]] ([[User talk:Boomhauer|talk]]) 20:55, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

In my mind, it's an obvious attempt at humor, but, you can discount it yourself. Not like you transcribers and what not haven't sat through less interesting Chris-related things before. Merely rewatch the entire video at max volume or with headphones. It's just a bad attempt at a joke, no doubt, but you can straight up disprove it yourself, in like 5 minutes. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 21:51, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Bob Chandler

2014-10-12T17:50:07Z

The World Is Yours: /* "Bob and the internet" section */ new section

==To do==
*<strike>Picture of Bob</strike>
**Bob looks like fucking Jigsaw. Scary. [[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 18:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
*Chris's relationship with Bob, in Chris's own words
*add some background to Bob's history. He goes on about himself in the date audio, and he's a pretty interesting guy, like he saw the first plastic Coke bottles shipped off from the assembly line, and he was in the Signal Corps and all sorts of other interesting stuff. We need some of that in here. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:06, 26 March 2009 (CET)

(Quick question - whats the date audio? Thanks!)
*...the audio of Chris's date with [[Emily]]. As seen available on the [[The Miscreants]] website. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:31, 17 April 2009 (CEST)

Should I mention he just got sent to the hospital in the health section with congestive heart failure? [[Shawths|Shawths]]

==Great job!==

Seriously, this article is terrific now. I'm surprised how far it's come. Good work to all those involved. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 10:11, 11 June 2009 (CEST)

: Still need more on video games and raising Chris. The section on Chris should be the biggest in this article. Will wait for others to finish transcribing because I can't make out Bob's quiet voice in church & Emily. [[User:Axe|Axe]] 10:24, 11 June 2009 (CEST)

== Bob's birthday ==

Why did everyone think it was Feb. 9th instead of Sept. 4? Does Chris not know when his father's birthday is? [[User:Sauerkraut131|Sauerkraut131]] 04:41, 27 June 2009 (CEST)
*No, it's just hard to tell from the Family Tree poster since it's in microscopic print. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:27, 27 June 2009 (CEST)

==Radio Station Gig==
According to some of the recordings via Yahoo Messenger, didn't Bob worked at a radio station at one time? [[User:Decoy Octillery|Decoy Octillery]] 21:01, 5 August 2009 (CEST)

==i suck==

Hi, first time editor, long time lurker. I called CWC's house today, hoping to talk to him, but I got Bob instead. Those other people exaggerated about Bob's bravado in their callfail video, Bob isn't much of an opponent if you don't let him get a word in, he just seems to stammer a lot. Of note, he recognized my Texas area code (432) and said he was from Texas, and that he knew some KKK people who he said he would send over to my house if I didn't stop calling. Unfortunately it's lost to time because I can't record from my cellphone and maintain a decent quality. I called him in the morning, when he woke up I honestly thought it was Chris. Anyways, I suck at this shit, I'm gonna just lurk and wtach from now on. I don't have what it takes to be a troll. Thanks for the interesting page, and sorry I don't have any audio to give you guys. [[User:ColossalFail|ColossalFail]] 19:35, 28 November 2009 (CET)

==Hey... ==

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIoS-gPOA0k]

My friend sent me this video earlier today. It has to do with someone prank calling Bob to get more info out of him involving his current life. Is there anything in it we could possibly use for this article? --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]] 16:41, 20 February 2010 (EST)

*Is stuff like this now subject to the new CWCki privacy laws? Or are we good with all that?-[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 19:54, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

==Congestive heart failure==

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Damn. We all knew this was coming eventually, but still.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:31, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

: We haven't confirmed it was actually Chris yet--I'm personally at 60-40 Chris, the writing style seems off(the Random Capitalization is unusual) but his posting pattern makes sense. Chris only seems to use Twitter when the CWCipedia has dicks on it and I doubt that he's checked recently.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 03:02, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
:*The Twitter is his, he's written in the [[CWC Blog]] about it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:51, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
:** I don't see it on the CWCipedia updates.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 03:02, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
:***It would explain his lack of presence for the last few days.
: Huh, I don't see that tweet on [http://twitter.com/CWCSonichu his Twitter account]. Did he delete it, or am I just missing it somehow? --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 04:55, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
:* No, it's there. It starts with "Captain's Log Stardate March 1st"--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:13, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
:** Oh, now I see it. Thanks! *[[slow-in-the-mind]]* --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 17:51, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
I don't want to live in a Cwcville without Bob. If he dies, I'll kill myself.
''

I'm going to kill myself if Bob Chandler dies
I'm going to kill myself if he makes me cry
I'll slit my wrists or I'll cut my throat
but I'll kill myself, I'll kill myself, by bleeding on his doorstep.''

[[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 05:50, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

:My grandma died due to congestive heart failure. It isn't a pretty sight. -PeaceCeapPea

:I just heard the news. Dammit, Bob is awesome, I'm praying he doesn't kick it! PLEASE DON'T DIE, BOB! :'( [[User:ToyoWolf|Kimo]] 06:57, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Just to be clear, CHF doesn't necessarily mean heart attack/failure/imminent death. What it means is that the heart is weakened and is having trouble pumping enough blood to the rest of the body. A lot of overweight and older people develop CHF and don't kick off immediately because of it, and it is treatable. So Bob may live to chop down more internets yet. [[User:Kazmeyer|Kazmeyer]] 07:20, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

He spent 2 tweets discussing how his dad has a serious health issue, then six talking about himself and Sonichu. -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 07:46, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
:*I know, right? What the fuck? That's pretty low. I know Chris has [[Mumble 1|implied]] that he doesn't love Bob, but I'd expect more than that. People always joke about Bob dying, but I wouldn't like that at all. He is the only sliver of awesome left in Chris's life. - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 11:20, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
::*The thing is, people think that without Bob, we'd get more interesting results from Chris. Bob kept Chris from going to Redmond. Bob is more or less the reason why Chris won't travel anywhere for a troll. Anyways, I think the concern is that Bob has a long history of heart problems already and given his age, he's taken quite a beating and it wouldn't be unreasonable to suspect that this might do him in. Not that I pray for the death of Bob, mind you, only that this is the rationale of people focusing on Bob's death and why people aren't exactly optimistic. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:27, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
:*I wouldn't expected anything else from him. What about "I am putting ''Sonichu'' on hold because my father is at the hospital"? That wouldn't have been a novelty. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 14:08, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

I think we should all do something nice for Lumberjack. Make his life a little easier. We should call in and wish him good health. How much better will he feel knowing that he is more loved than his internet famous son? He'd perk up right away. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:18, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
:* He appreciated [[4 September 2009|Vivian's card]], that's probably a good idea. A picnic hamper perhaps? Some kind of gift package with food and/or nice shit. Chris won't go to that trouble; someone should.- [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 16:33, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
::*If someone sets up a paypal, I'd chip in 10 bucks. He's the internet lumberjack, after all.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 17:34, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*I agree, that would be cool. [[User:Lynxr|–Ich bin schwul, '''Lynxr'''. Ich bin schwul.–]] 19:03, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
::*I plan on sending flowers by myself in the next few days. Some kind of "Get Well" bouquet. The man deserves it. He went through a lot and, even if he could had done better with Chris, he deserves a break. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 21:19, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
*I've started a /cwc/ thread on this here: http://legi0n.789chan.org/cwc/res/24043.html - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 18:54, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I really hope Bob pulls through for Chris's sake. I really hate Chris but I know what it's like to lose one's father, and that's not something I'd wish upon anybody else. --[[User:Dann Woolf|Dann Woolf]] 16:44, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
*Yeah, seriously. I hope Bob gets well soon.--[[User:Kettle5000|Kettle5000]] 19:17, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
** Same here. Out of the Chandlers, Bob is easily the most likeable.....which isn't exactly that difficult seeing the rest of the Chandlers, but still.. --[[User:Torvalr|Torvalr]] 19:31, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Hey, all the colossal dicks are gone from the Cwcipedia. A mark of respect? --[[User:Kettle5000|Kettle5000]] 21:08, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
*Sadly, it looks like it. Chris do not deserve any respect. CWCipedia should be a ground for Cock-Parades 24/7/365 [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 21:19, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
**Dude, his dad could be fucking ''dying''. I think it's a nice gesture - that's why I mentioned it.--[[User:Kettle5000|Kettle5000]] 22:31, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
***I never saw Chris acting with compassion towards someone before, I don't see why we should indulge in Moral-Faggotery because of Bob's issues. As much as I respect the Old Man, He's not the jerk we all love to hate. This is why I strongly believe that the ads must be put back in place. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 23:25, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
::*Chris's 'stress' probably gets passed onto Bob. When Bob is in stable condition, there's no way Chris will be able to put his needs ahead of his own. He'll be getting all cunty about the trolling that he's receiving and not helping Bob's situaition at all. I say lay off and go with [[User:Edward|Edward's]] idea. Well wishes and get well soon ads for Bob. So what if Chris gets smug. Smug Chris is positive happy Chris, it's the closest he gets to that emotion. We can put up with that while his dad's in hospital, right? - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 00:27, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
**Seconded. /Scruffy --[[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 00:30, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
**Chris wouldn't give a fuck if his father died. He hates him. If he hasn't empaphized with anyone else, then why the father he hates so much? He'll fake sadness, pretend he cares, but he'll still consider fucking Patti the worst loss of his life. And going easy on Chris is no help for Bob, that just means that in possibly his last days with his father he'll be all smug about his victory over the gay ads. If anything they should put up a get well message for Bob using the adspace. I'm going to mention that to the Asperpedia crew next time i'm over there. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 22:42, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
***Agreed. Look at the Quote of the Now. He mentions that his dad is in the hospital and would be there for a few days, but he had a LOOOONG stressful day. He wants us to feel sorry for him for the day, not his dad. It would be the greatest wake up call when he does pass away.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 23:23, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
****Chris being selfish? that's old news. If bob dies, it's ovbiously he would become chris's new excuse " i can't do << insert anything>> because my dad died" for a while, he'll forget about him and continue to be the jerk we know. Id bob dies he will be free from the torments of chris, bob has been trough too many shit thanks to Chris, bob deserves to finally rest in peace. [[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 23:46, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
*****Actually, what would happen if Bob died? Presumably the family, not just Bob are living off his pension and social security. Even if they own the house completely, however much Barbra is bringing in plus $450 from Chris' board may not be enough to pay all their costs (bills, food, etc). --[[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 00:15, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
****** I wouldn't doubt that the accumulative total of both Chris' and Bab's welfare would be enough to sustain them- provided Chris stopped buying junk he never uses and stops eating at McDonald's. But it seems to me from the Twitter alone that Chris doesn't consider this emergency to be significant- it's like he skimmed across the issue as a lead-up to his retarded comic's scheduling, which in turn lead into "Rule 18" (which I can only assume is Chris' mistaken discovery of Rule 34). If he took the situation seriously at all, he'd either be pouring more emotion into it, or be absent altogether. --[[User:Spoonman|Spoonman]] 00:44, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
******* Well Chris claims to have gotten his pack rat nature from his parents. So there's the possibility that if Bob goes, they'll spend themselves into nothing. --[[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 01:05, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
-
• One thought- has anyone contacted [[Cole]] yet? I'm in Australia or I would myself. I know Chris doesn't gave a flying fuck and [[Snorlax]] almost certainly doesn't either. He should know I think. --Ronichu
* I think most of the family probably know by now (I would hope so anyway) but Cole has said in the past that he would celebrate when Bob "finally drops". Unless Cole is willing to make peace I say let him stay in the dark on this one, or leave it to the Chandlers to tell him. This is all too soon, I'm not ready for Bob to die yet... I just hope he dies comfortable, not at home and not surrounded by his family. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 01:40, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
**Yeah, when bob dies, i hope he doesn't has to see his failure son's face. [[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 02:52, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
**Agreed on letting the Chandlers tell Cole, if for no other reason than he might not believe some random troll from the Internet. --[[User:Kettle5000|Kettle5000]] 21:05, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I really need to ask this- where was it picked up that Bob had a 10% chance of survival? If it was in the linked article, I didn't see it.--[[User:Spoonman|Spoonman]] 09:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
*I am asking myself the same question; where this came from? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 11:09, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
** It doesn't, I think the person who wrote that must have seen the bit which says that it has an annual mortality rate of 10% and misunderstood it. He statistically has a 90% chance of surviving another year (provided he is suffering from the normal progressive form of the disease). I've changed the article to reflect this. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 11:29, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:::Alright, awesome- I was just beginning to think if that had been true, then half my extended family is pretty damn lucky.--[[User:Spoonman|Spoonman]] 09:58, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

*If Bob does kick it (may he rest in peace if he does), what odds do you give on Chris going to a funny farm in the next 5 years? --[[User:Munch Banchibokkusu|Munch]] 19:00, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:*Unless if the state of Virginia got no cheaper option. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I try to send flowers to Bob but the FTD website ask for a phone number. Anyone got a clue what Chris's phone is? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

He tells us himself in the opening few seconds of [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2vGKa-k2Us this video]. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:14, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
*How about <s>Chris' credit card number</s> the hospital we should send them to? --[[User:Munch Banchibokkusu|Munch]] 19:17, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
*Chris's credit card number is 2984 8579 9562 3765. That number is fake by the way in case anyone missed the joke. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:24, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:*thanks for the info. I forgot about this video. I rand FTD with a nice card and a Pink Lily Bouquet. Bob will receive them tomorrow.[[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 20:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
***Assuming Snorlax doesn't eat them first. --[[User:Munch Banchibokkusu|Munch]] 20:08, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:*Do we know that Bob will get them? Knowing Chris, he'll assume that they are for him and make a youtube video thanking his secret admirer for sending him flowers. I hope that you made sure to put down in bold capitals that its for Bob, and even then its only a slim chance that he'll consider the idea that they're not for him. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:14, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
::*But pink is such a faggy color. --[[User:Munch Banchibokkusu|Munch]] 20:53, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*There's a possibility that Chris will hijack the bouquet but let's see it that way; it's bloody pink if he does, we got material to doubt his straightness. Not only Bob's name is on the delivery slip but I also send a "Get Well" card mentioning him, the package couldn't be mistaken. FTD will deliver tomorrow. Let's see what it will bring us. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 21:19, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*I sent Bob a bouquet as well. In all honesty, I enjoyed hearing about his experiences and feel bad that he's stuck with a horrible wife and son. The all the man wants is a chance to discuss the world and listen to his records. At the very least, he deserves to know that there are people that like him out there. --[[User:Benjamin|Benjamin]] 22:35, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
::::*What color? --[[User:Munch Banchibokkusu|Munch]] 00:41, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::*Multi-colored. It's [http://www.teleflora.com/mixed-flowers/bouquet/make-a-wish-167864p.asp?s=t&promotioncode=Shed10&srccode=SH_FR&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=TFWEB164 this one.] [[User:Benjamin|Benjamin]] 01:00, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*If Chris suffered heart failure, I wouldn't send flowers. --[[User:Munch Banchibokkusu|Munch]] 04:29, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

*I kinda want Bob to die (Don't look at me like i am a monster) because I want the vicarious thrill of watching 14 Branchland Court implode without his common sense. --[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 20:44, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
** Me too. He's pretty much the only person who ever tried to stop a Sweetheart opperation--he could have stopped Julie if Max hadn't been a good liar. Nothing will set the Snorlax off unless you try to lure Chris somewhere, and even then I remind you that we still got him to defy her and go to Ohio. Her general logic for any scenario seems to be "If Chris actually gets a girl, I'll believe it when I see her, otherwise it's his own damn fault for being stupid". This is Chris's logic, minus the part after the comma. Oh, and no Bob means less money, and what's going to make you think Chris starts stealing his tugboat payment from her?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 22:00, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
*** If you kinda want Bob to die to make trolling Chris easier you're kinda a far more worthless human being than Chris is. [[User:Kazmeyer|Kazmeyer]] 23:41, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
**** I'll justify myself, then. I will be sad to see Bob die, and I will be happy to see what happens when he's gone.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 00:12, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
***Like I said, I'm no monster, I just wanna see Chris fall apart without Bob's guidance. --[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 00:29, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
**** If Chris has no-one to defend him or motivate him, it won't be a challenge to troll him anymore. I like Bob, and if I get to his age I intend to spend all day everyday swingin' with the music. [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 02:30, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
**** Well, since Barb is too weighed down by her own rolls to do anything, if Bob dies, there will be shit hitting fans in Chris' home real soon, and I don't mean cat shit.. Either way it's going to be funny considering Chris' warped view on death. --[[User:CrookedSmirk|CrookedSmirk]]
**** She's not that fat, not yet anyway.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 05:48, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

I know everyone has realized this by now, but I don't think Chris understands the severity of it all. On his Twitter, it says that Bob came down with a ''case'' of congestive heart failure. The way he's talking about it, it seems that Chris thinks that this is something Bob can overcome like a sick bug or something. That also explains the lack of concern in his two videos - he actually thinks Bob's gonna be alright in a few days, as if some R&R would do good! He doesn't realize that this may very well be the beginning of the end!--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:20, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
:*This is why I pity Bob Chandler right now. He's a man with decades of fair work, a patent on his name and the opportunity to be called the veteran of the most intense war the world never saw. Only for this, he will be a better man than myself. Here's the sad part. On the Internets, he will be remembered as the "Joseph" of the "Fail Messiah". The very fact that Chris ignore him in what we might call his last hours on Earth is shocking to me. He really don't deserve this. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:43, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
:*Point. Bob's death may come as a total and complete surprise to Chris.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 05:48, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
:*How do we even know Barb would let him know all the details? Wouldn't she consider keeping Chris ignorant to be a small mercy? --[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 05:56, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
:**Small mercy? From everything I've heard of her, if she kept the details from Chris it would be because it's easier on her to just not tell him. In all honesty if anything's going to happen with this, it should be trying to get Chris to actually spend time with his father. Remember, the closest he's had to a constant in his life dying is his dog, and Optimus Prime, and in Chris' mind both of those came back. -- [[User:Borednewb|Borednewb]] 06:59, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

:I still think we should do something nice for Bob while he's sick. Unlike Chris, Bob is definitely someone I see as with positive qualities along with the negative (which he has plenty of, but don't we all). In light of this, I wanted to have a small hatched engraved with a message "For 'The Internet Lumberjack'. Get well soon! - The Trolls" on the front face and "Keep on swinging!" on the back. I found a place that does engraving along with a hatchet that would be suitable ($100 or so cost all up, probably about the same for postage, not a problem for me since I work), unfortunately I called Australia Post and they said that there were import restrictions on edged weapons into the United States for some reason. Is there anywhere in the US where one could order something similar to the above created and delivered? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 05:28, 4th of March 2010 (Australian Central Standard Time).
:*Does Bob even know that he's the Internet Lumberjack? The joke might be totally lost on him. - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 10:43, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
*The cause was an internet fell on him. --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 08:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

*If bob dies, do you think chris will put him in his comic, just like patty?[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 18:54, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

* Probably, but he'll be a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Il_Sung Kim Il-Sung] type character, The dead but eternal leader of CWCville. --[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 20:37, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

*For those who don't know, [http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dailyprogress/ Charlottesville obituaries are here]. I'm not sure if this has been posted yet; correct me if it has. So far Bob has not shown up. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 21:17, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

*If he dies, I hope the funeral isn't private, because I plan on burying my axe and a broken internet modem with him.
--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 23:02, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Guys, please, this is getting out of hand. There's lots of places to discuss stuff for Bob like sending him flowers and shit. But this place is not the place to do it. Please refer to [[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|this]]. Talk pages should be reserved for how to improve the article and not for content - it was alright to discuss the validity of the tweets, for instance, but this is getting out of hand. Fuck, you can even arrange things on the Community Portal if you really want to.

Next person who posts something not related to improving the Bob Chandler article '''will be banned.''' --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:25, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

I've added a heading below the ''Health and late life'' heading called ''What about Bob?''. I'm using it to encompass what little we know about the recent heart failure saga, and briefly touch on Chris's extracurricular activities during it. I figure once it's all over with, it will be much easier to delete the heading and contents as a whole, rather than sift through the Bob article and remove things piecemeal. But if it's getting too big, or if you all don't like it, feel free to cut it down in the spirit of Bob. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 06:26, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

==Bob's past heart attacks==

If you check out the transcript for the [[Emily Date Conversation Transcript|Emily Date]], you'll see several gaps, one of which is very large. I just reached the point in the audio where the first gap occurs, and it's ''right there'' that Bob starts talking about his history of health problems, most notable of which are his past heart attacks. We seem to have a surplus of Bob fans, so would one (or more) of you like to start filling in that gap (and/or the others)? I'm willing to do it myself, but I'm not the world's fastest typist, and - all kidding aside - I'd like to have all of this information about Bob made available before the man dies. [[User:Llort|Llort]] 03:57, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
*I'm surprised I haven't noticed this before. I'll actually add this to the Improvement of the Now. Be sure to mention this in the [[Transcription Collective]] as well. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:32, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

*He's definitely gonna die soon, because the fact that he's had four heart attacks and is older than my grandfather by a decade (he was born in 1937) , is a telltale sign that he's gonna meet Billy Mays sometime within the year.

*PSN message shows than Bob is okay, according to Chris, at least. Should he die, it'll be a day of mourning, but not for Cole. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 23:20, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

==Should we really be checking the Charlottesville obituaries?==

I thought that the Chandlers lived in Ruckersville and not Charlottesville proper. Perhaps someone from the area can inform me of the truth?--[[User:Doomknight|Doomknight]] 08:28, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but isn't the hospital in Charlottesville? I'd call them myself but my Boston accent's too thick for them to not raise an eyebrow. --[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 21:10, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

I had assumed that Ruckersville wouldn't have their own obit listing, but I just found out that they do. I'll add that link to the Charlottesville link on Bob's page. It's more of an off chance that he'd be listed anyway. Considering that the only people who would even write an obit would be Barb or Chris, it's doubtful if he'd even get one. But since we've all basically been pissing in the wind regarding Bob for the last week, it's about all we can do. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 06:14, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

== Is Bob dead..? ==

[http://sonichuchandler.tripod.com/cwcson.htm Is Chris still in control of this site?], because "Sonichu is no longer being updated. My father's passing has been too great for me. :( It is like I Lost Patti All Over Again."

The site was last updated on the 31st of March... --[[User:AsperGirl|AsperGirl]] 06:50, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

*It's a troll page. I think someone already saw and mentioned it elsewhere.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 06:59, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

* I personally spoke to both Bob and Snorlax about seven hours ago. They are both alive. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 07:18, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

So some people of TV Tropes seem to think Bob's dead. I've looked through a few websites that list obituaries from Ruckersville and Charlottesville and he wasn't listed on any of them. Any conformation as to whether he's alive or not? --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' 23:42, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
*No telling, could be a trolling plot. I think we'd be warned if Bob was dead. The simple solution is to call Chris and simply ask him.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 08:24, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
** I tried calling him yesterday to ask him about Bob, but I couldn't get a hold of him. I'll try again, even though I know he probably won't pick it up. (How do you guys even manage to talk to him, anyway?) --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' 23:12, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::*There are about 15 more 'Sydney Calls' which are just voicemail messages and the like. Chris is too lazy to answer his phone and his parents are quite sick of all the pranks. Keep trying and you'll eventually get through. I tell you what though, if Chris actually gets a call from a game designer they would not put up with someone being so impossibly unreliable to contact. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 23:18, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:::* Ah, I thought "call until he decides to pick up" would be the answer. I managed to get him on the line once sometime last year, but that was back when I was a CWC newfag, sooooo I froze up and hung up. *fails forever*

But yeah, that'd be yet another reason (out of an infinite amount of reasons) why game designers wouldn't touch ''Sonichu'' with a ten-foot pole. --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' 01:25, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
::*If so, then a new era has begun. If not, then we can annoy Chris. And there's nothing Rocky can do about it.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 23:47, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::*Heh, don't worry about the freezing up thing. Sydney was a huge fail, but she was about 50x more successful than my previous effort, where I got absolutely no response at all, only annoyed him a little, didn't record anything at all, entertained his parents and then nearly dox'd myself due to my tardness. Just to be sure, you're not calling him with your real phone, right? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 01:32, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
::** Er.... Yeah, I'm using my cell phone. And for extra fail points, I use Audactiy to try to record my calls. What should I do instead? '''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' 18:49, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
== racist ==
so has bob ever actually been out-and-out racist or is that just a (probably correct) assumption? just wondering [[User:Woot Rodriguez|Woot Rodriguez]] 15:56, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
{{quote|Listen boy, you get your black ass down in the gutter and stay there!|Bob, [[Prank_calls#.27Epic_Crazy_Lady.27_calls_Bob|choreographing trolls]]}}
This quote would suggest Bob thinks of black people in a negative light, referring to the trolls as being black. I'm stereotyping, but it's not uncommon for people from his generation to hold racist views. Him having been raised in Alabama would also suggest that he was exposed to racist views. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 16:07, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

ahahaha, how did i ever miss that article? funny shit, thanks man. although in another video on the page (just reading the transcript here, my speakers are busted so i can't hear how he says it so he could be being sarcastic or dismissive or whatever) he tells a troll to put effort into something constructive like helping haitians. i've known people who said stuff similar to "get your black ass down" (ok, not really that phrase but you get what i'm saying) and they aren't really racist. but then again i also live in south louisiana so that probably has something to do with the different standards for what constitutes racism or something (down here someone's not really considered racist until they start throwing around the n-word or other slurs or explicitly slander a race/someone because of their race). which, of course, isn't to say that makes saying something like that any less heinous.[[User:Woot Rodriguez|Woot Rodriguez]] 15:59, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

or maybe i'm just willing to give some people more leeway than they deserve; yeah that's probably it. [[User:Woot Rodriguez|Woot Rodriguez]] 05:41, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

== That picture of Bob and Chris ==

Long time lurker, love the site. I was just looking at the picture of Bob and Chris in what appears to be a classroom (0230-ChristianAndDadInClass.jpg) and was noticing the Grade Chart. Am I reading it wrong, or does it seem to award money prizes for different grades, with at least 5$ being awarded even for failure? If I'm not misinterpreting it, does this mean Chris was getting rewarded, no matter how badly he did? [[User:Colonelslime|Colonelslime]] 17:55, 16 July 2010 (UTC) (Edited to add signature, my apologies)

* First off, sign your posts, four tildes at the end of your post. To answer your question, it might not mean that, in that he probably wasn't making money. Many teachers have systems with their students to encourage learning. The teacher makes some fake money, the kids take a test, the kids earn money based on their performance. She'll have a thing of toys they can buy with what they make. It was apparently popular back in the 80s and mid 90s, but nowadays kids can get better stuff than that by themselves. There's a slight chance that the kids were actually getting paid, but that would be a pretty bad plan for a teacher to put into motion. If so, it probably would have been for their final, overall grade, but still. Also, there is a talk page for files as well, so if you have anything else post there, alright? [[User:Schuzrum-dias|Schuzrum Dias]] 07:30, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== The Automatic (Something) is...? ==

Could it possibly be he worked on the first automatic switchboard for the area, or possibly the whole reigon? I've read up on these, and it sounds like he worked on the first installation as part of a test run to see how well they would function under standard call input rates and to test how durable they were under stress. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 16:55, 19 August 2010 (PDT)

:'''>Test how durable they were under stress.''' Pity he couldn't do the same with his son.[[User:ProtoAuthor|ProtoAuthor]] 07:36, 11 April 2011 (PDT)

== Patents ==

Here are two more patents with Bob's name on them I couldn't fit in the Work section because I am about to Crash into Slumber.

http://www.google.com/patents?id=jKU4AAAAEBAJ
http://www.google.com/patents?id=-DMBAAAAEBAJ

--[[User:KarryLing|KarryLing]] 01:07, 12 September 2010 (PDT)

==Grand Wizard Bob ==
While I know that the revelation of his Klan membership came right out of the horse's mouth, Does anyone know if he's really a member, or just bullshitting?--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 12:23, 24 September 2010 (PDT)

:He's not saying he's a member. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 14:05, 24 September 2010 (PDT)

He implied he was a member, just read this quote:''''' I’ve seen crosses burning, fella. I've seen 'em. And you don’t wanna see it. '''''
--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 15:45, 24 September 2010 (PDT)
* A good few black people have seen cross burnings, I doubt they're members. I'm guessing he was just trying to scare the callers. --[[User:Schuzrum-dias|Schuzrum Dias]] 16:29, 24 September 2010 (PDT)

== Is Bob actually part Cherokee? ==
Or is it just Chris making shit up? - slubub
:Look at Bob's features and how dark his skin is, and you got the answer. I think it's quite likely he has at least 25% Native American admixture. [[User:Charles|Charles]] 02:59, 29 November 2011 (PST)

== Cancer Call? ==
anybody got links?--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 15:57, 29 March 2011 (PDT)
* Bob has cancer!? By God, the poor fella. My heart goes out to him. Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-GGSOyCm2k Here's a link to the call. --[[User:TheIronFjord|TheIronFjord]] 21:36, 20 April 2011 (PDT)
**I am unsure about the whole "Cancer" thing. As long as I don't hear a FA or Chris confirming the info, I will assume that Bob is pulling our leg. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 04:52, 21 April 2011 (PDT)

==Is Bob technically a troll?==
Bob's joke about Obama appeared in the 4 Cent Garbage building, so shouldn't that make him a troll since he contributed to it? Maybe we should include this in the article. --[[User:SonichuIsMyHero|SonichuIsMyHero]] 07:57, 8 June 2011 (PDT)
:Look up what a troll is. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 08:08, 8 June 2011 (PDT)

==BobWatch==
I've added a section under What About Bob that's meant to hold more of the bulleted news info, to separate it from the more narrative information. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 14:00, 29 August 2011 (PDT)

== Changing tenses in the article ==

If Bob truly is dead, (which, unfortunately, appears to be the case), then CWCki editors need to change his page to reflect things in the past tense. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 09:35, 10 September 2011 (PDT)

*I'll look into changing tenses and maybe tidying it up a little, in light of what's happened. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 10:18, 10 September 2011 (PDT)

*I changed maybe three words to reflect Bob's passing. Since English isn't my first language, hopefully someone can check it! --[[User:Volodya|Volodya]] 10:27, 10 September 2011 (PDT)

*I'll do it. --[[User:MissMeg|MissMeg]] 10:34, 10 September 2011 (PDT)
**Done. Feel free to make any changes you see fit. --[[User:MissMeg|MissMeg]] 10:54, 10 September 2011 (PDT)

== Obituary ==
* I was reading the obit for Bob and I found this statement, "Instead of flowers, you may make monetary donations to his widow, Barbara Chandler and son, Christian Chandler." What the heck?? Is this normal? Do people really send money and flowers to people they don't know? And I'm kinda wondering who wrote the obit in the first place. I'm moving towards Chris or Barb because no obit written by the hospital staff would mention the whole "without him we wouldn't have (insert some plastic item here)". Another question to ponder is this: because Bob is now dead, will Barb and Chris still receive as much money as they did before? What happens when the social security holder dies and that's their only real income (I can't imagine they can live off the tugboat). --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 11:39, 10 September 2011 (PDT)
It's normal to ask "Instead of flowers, you may send a donation to (charity)" - asking for cash for yourself is not normal. And it's not "money and flowers to people they don't know" - if you're an acquaintance who can't make it to the funeral, you send flowers (or a charitable donation - or, presumably, a new 3DS game) and your apologies. [[User:Eamoo|Eamoo]] 12:45, 10 September 2011 (PDT)

*Well, regarding Bob's pension, it depends on what election he took at the time of retirement. Since Barb has a pension as well, it's possible he chose a Single Life Annuity (meaning that when he dies, the money stops) because she already has money coming in from her pension and typically SLAs provide more each paycheck. If he took a Joint & Survivor Benefit, it's possible Barb (who is probably the beneficiary) will get either 50, 75 or 100% of what Bob was getting from GE's pension trust. Even if Barb is the beneficiary, very few pension plans offer 100% J&S options and on top of that, with her poor health, after the death of a spouse, according to mortality tables, she won't have much time and typically pensions don't have a secondary beneficiary; which is what Chris is. In short, they're probably receiving MUCH less money now. --[[User:reverendverse|ReverendVerse]] 18:07, 10 September 2011 (EST)

:I added a mention of this. To clarify: it is '''not''' customary to outright ask for money to give to the widow. Obituaries ask for money all the time, but it is usually accompanied with noting that the money is for the funeral (or a charity), and they don't ask for flowers to not be sent. Bob may have been getting a pension from both General Electric and from the U.S. Army. The latter pension is not paid after death, and it is the most generous. Therefore, it is not entirely unthinkable that the Chandler household has had its income cut in half or more.
:Also, in case it hasn't been mentioned yet, the obituary itself was written by Chris and Barb. --[[User:Riley_Martin|Uhh… '''this is Riley Martin.''']] 22:51, 10 September 2011 (PDT)

== RIP Video ==

Does anyone plan on making a RIP video for Bob? Because sadly, I believe we need one for the Video of Now. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 11:26, 10 September 2011 (PDT)

: I really don't think we '''need''' one for the video of the now and I don't think there should be a RIP video, it's would be in very poor taste and the announcement of his death on the front page is bad enough.([[User:Drlugae|Drlugae]] 11:36, 10 September 2011 (PDT))
:: That's exactly what I was thinking. One of us making a video would definitely be poor taste. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 11:39, 10 September 2011 (PDT)
::Agreed. This isn't about us.[[User:Draygoon|Draygoon]] 17:29, 10 September 2011 (PDT)

I do wish there were some way to honor his memory. I personally found Robert Chandler much more interesting than his son. --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 17:30, 10 September 2011 (PDT)
:: Maybe after some time passes, we can start thinking about a tribute. A nice, tasteful one, something simple. Right now, it's far, far too soon. [[User:Got2Hands|Got2Hands]] 21:17, 10 September 2011 (PDT)
Well, if we do end up putting up a video, here's a very tasteful, moving one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyMoams7EMw[[User:Ulron1|Ulron1]] 22:37, 10 September 2011 (PDT)

== Bob's Last Moments ==

Like with all people, I like to know of certain "last" moments they've had before they pass away. Last words, most recent picture, things of that nature. My request is if somebody could list Bob's last audio appearance, last video appearance, last sighting, last known photograph, and other last known moments. Also, I'm pretty sure there has to be someone near the Ruckersville/Charlottesville area, so if you have the means and the access (and if he is having a burial), if you could take a picture of his headstone sometime later this year. Please do not do anything degrading like charging into his memorial service, camera in hand, snapping pictures like a madman. Robert F. Chandler Jr. was a good man who I really felt for. His memory should live on with all of us and should not be insulted by some thirteen year old who thinks he's being "epic" by trolling Bob in his death. Despite the numerous phone calls and death threats, he was never the victim in all of this. He honestly deserved better treatment when he was still alive. [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 02:12, 11 September 2011 (PDT)
*I could try (the last moment list I mean, I have no way of reaching VA as I live in the Midwest), but I'd like to have other people's input on this before I go ahead doing this. --[[User:MissMeg|All hail the dean!]] 11:16, 18 September 2011 (PDT)

== Dead link ==

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--[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 00:57, 28 September 2011 (PDT)

== "Actually dead" template ==

Don't we have a template for when someone on the CWCipedia is actually dead? It would not surprise me if people start to believe that Bob Chandler isn't dead because Chris hasn't said anything. --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 09:07, 30 September 2011 (PDT)
:There's a category, but he's already there. Didn't see anything else from a quick skim. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 02:27, 4 October 2011 (PDT)

== Uh ==

Pretty sure Bob died due to the whole "cancer" thing, not heart failure. Does anybody have any basis for claiming it was heart failure other than his past heart problems? --[[User:Thorg|Thorg]] 01:31, 4 October 2011 (PDT)
:Pretty sure "swollen feet" isn't a symptom of cancer. This is anecdotal, but I've always associated swollen feet with vascular problems. If there's no evidence either way, it's probably best to just remove it. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 02:27, 4 October 2011 (PDT)

== What now? ==

So... I was looking through some of the emails to make sure links and stuff were still relevant and I came across something in Jackie E-mails 7
"My car is under my parents' name, and my S.S.I. is linked to my Father's S.S.#, so they do currently have the power to take away one or both from me."
So... if Bob is dead and Chris's S.S.I is linked to a now deceased Bob's S.S.#... what happens to Chris's S.S.I? Will he lose it or have to reapply for it using his own SS#? If so, I think this needs to be mentioned somewhere, maybe in TugBoat, and maybe a little excerpt in the Bob article. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:38, 11 November 2011 (PST)
:I think Chris just didn't apply for his own S.S.I because it was easier to let his parents take care of things like that. But he's certainly able to apply for and is likely to be eligible for S.S.I purely based on his circumstances. I'm unsure why they allowed his original application to be tied to his father's SS#, as it should have been independent. Regardless, if the tale of events that are circulating currently regarding the recent incident with Snyder are true - both him and Barb have access to people like Rocky for advice on how to deal with matters like this. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:50, 11 November 2011 (PST)

== Fanart? ==

There are fan videos, but what about fan art? Just an idea. --[[User:MissMeg|Miss Meg]] 14:35, 16 January 2012 (PST)

== "Bob and the internet" section ==

So, I noticed there's a new section here, of Bob and the internet, that then subdivides into "What trolls made him out to be" and "What he actually is". Now, I'm in no disagreement over the content, but... I have to wonder... did people actually believe Bob was this wonderful human being? I mean, they must have somewhere, if it needed to be added. What demographic believes this? I grew to know about Chris from the CWCKI itself, and I can tell you, I always saw Bob Chandler as an equally horrifying and detestable person, just like Chris, and indeed, the rest of his immediate family. So, I find it hard to believe that Bob ever had this 'holy' moniker or something that him such a paradigm to people.
In any case, I doubt those same people ever got their information from here. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 17:50, 12 October 2014 (UTC)