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Talk:Greene County Conspiracy

2010-05-09T07:34:38Z

TheBrownSonichu:

Starting transcription [[User:Urist|Urist]] 04:55, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

A video was released earlier by solidsnakeproductions giving a gay craigslist user looking for good times directions to Chris' house...could this be why he made this video? [[User:LouisLash|LouisLash]] 2:14, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*Doubtful. By the sounds of it, Chris won tickets for some sporting event, no one wanted to go with his smelly ass and when he did go, he was reminded he was a [[Virgin with rage]] by the lovey-dovey couple beside him. Thus, he decided to go after others, blaming ''two fucking counties'' for playing Kick the Autistic!--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:17, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

==Name Change==
I know, it just got put up, but this page needs a better name. I vote for either "Chris Whines The Blues" or "The Greene County Conspiracy"--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:09, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*Moving it here, so it can be seen.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:15, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*I like "The Greene County Conspiracy". -[[User:Ezra Mason|Ezra Mason]] 05:39, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

What's the "100 2178" supposed to mean--is it just random gibberish for blank videos or is there some meaning to it?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 06:31, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*No, that's just the file number Chris uploaded this to.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 06:33, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Who wants to note all the aesthetic similarities to [[Song of Christian]]? We could call it Song of Christian II : Electric Boogaloo. [[User:TheBrownSonichu|TheBrownSonichu]] 07:34, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

==Cry some more, Chris==
Hahahahahaha! His tears taste magnificent! Greatest CWC video in a while. We're fucking breaking him. [[User:CrookedSmirk|CrookedSmirk]] 05:30, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

==Pertinence==
This is worth mentioning in so many other articles. Namely, the articles on [[reality]] and his [[ego]] come to mind. It's a conspiracy, folks! -[[User:Ezra Mason|Ezra Mason]] 05:39, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

== Chris's Shirt. ==

Hey everyone. I make a crappy smalltime riffing video series for fun, and I decided to ''possibly'' riff this video. I typically brighten videos up when I riff them if they're retardedly dark, and I noticed no one had an idea of what shirt he's wearing, so I took a screencap of my best effort to brighten Chris's day.

http://imgur.com/ygTLM.jpg

It appears to be a new shirt, either a tank top or a tee with the sleeves rolled up, with what I ''believe'' to be the Hogwarts shield on it. Chances are I'm wrong on that, though.

Also, I've noticed he's lost ''alot'' of hair. That may be the reason why he's obstructing himself.

I hope it helps! --[[User:ToyoWolf|Kimo]] 05:45, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
* First of all, it looks like the shirt's an orange ''Sonic Heroes'' t-shirt. The little emblem by his left manboob looks like the ''Sonic Heroes'' logo. Second of all, holy shit, where did his hair go?! I know he had more than that when he did that video gloating over removing that piece!--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:48, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

* That frame exaggerates the state of his hair. The camera isn't looking straight at him like it is in the beginning, and the aspect ratio hasn't been enforced. Here's another frame: http://i.imgur.com/Ic9XE.jpg --[[User:Lurker|Lurker]] 06:20, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

* Ah, crap, I forgot I changed the ratio. Sorry about that x3

Yes, this one is much better. I can tell there is a character in that emblem on his shirt, but I'm not sure who it is... It looks like either Dee Dee from Dexter's Lab or XJ9 from My Life As A Teenage Robot to me. It also looks like there's a...rocketship? I believe? --[[User:ToyoWolf|Kimo]] 06:26, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Almost thought it was the shirt from "10 September 2009" since the first person mentioned rolling up the sleeves, until I saw the emblem. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 07:16, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

==The Conspiracy==
I guess I misunderstood the video, because I thought Chris was whining that he would have had a better life in Chesterfield county, but the Chandlers got stuck in Greene county because they couldn't sell the house they are currently living in. Could somebody help a poor slow-in-the-mind like me figure this out? Thanks in advance (please type slowly). [[User:Squirrelbait|Squirrelbait]] 06:17, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*Assuming what Chris is telling us is true, I reckon it goes like this. For about the latter five years of the 90s, 14 Branchland Court in Ruckersville was empty while the Chandlers lived in Richmond and Chris was in high school. If they'd successfully sold 14 Branchland Court, they would have had the money to buy a permanent place in the Richmond area. Since they couldn't sell it, it wasn't cost-effective to keep renting homes in Richmond while also paying property taxes on the Ruckersville house and letting it fall into even worse disrepair. Thus, the move back to Ruckersville after Chris graduated high school. Which more or less rings true to me, altogether. (The part about realtors conspiring with the school district...well, yeah.) Anyway, I updated a couple of the articles on Chris's homes with this data, I think I hit the main ones that needed it. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 06:26, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

(1) Chris attends elementary school in Greene County, where sitting on the principal's lap gives him homophobia and a group of teachers abuses him by holding him down and recording his screams and cries. The school board wants him institutionalized so his family moves to Chesterfield County, but keep their house in Greene County.
(2) Chris goes to school in Chesterfield County, where he Comes Out of His Autistic Shell, makes lots of Gal-Pals, and creates Sonichu.
(3) Chris graduates and moves back to Greene County, away from all of his Gal-Pals, and begins his decline. PVCC is in Greene County. If his family had been able to sell their house (it sounds like they must not have had any interest in selling their house) then they would still live in Chesterfield County. You can see pictures of the move in A Week In The Life of Christian Weston Chandler, which is about his High School graduation.
[[User:Urist|Urist]] 06:25, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Simple answer: Chris is blaming everyone else for his problems. How do you not get how this works? [[User:BrokenDead89|BrokenDead89]] 06:30, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

tl;dr, everything bad in Chris's life is the fault of <s>Adam Stackhouse</s> <s>Joshua Martinez</s> <s>Jerkops</s> <s>Clyde Cash</s> <s>THE IMPOSTOR</s> <s>That Damn ED Page</s> <s>The Cwcki</s> <s>Michael Snyder</s> <s>Ms. Roach the Babysitter</s> <s>Chris's principal</s> The Greene County School Board of the early 1990s. [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 06:32, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, guys, it's making sense now (as much as anything Chris-related can). I think the article on this video has the Greene and Chesterfield houses mixed up, which derailed me. [[User:Squirrelbait|Squirrelbait]] 06:34, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*You're right, the summary had that mixed up. Good catch. Fixed that and added a link. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 06:41, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Christian Love Day (video)

2010-02-24T06:33:47Z

TheBrownSonichu:

I have nothing to do at the moment, so uh...I guess I'll get to transcribing. --[[User:James Lamp-Eye|James Lamp-Eye]] 05:33, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

== Damn. ==

I mean, I kinda expected some sort of birthday video, but Independence day? Really?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:04, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

: Is he serious? Or is he just playing with the camera? Who's got the camera? So many questions, it's like receiving a message from the Unibomber! [[User:TheBrownSonichu|TheBrownSonichu]] 06:33, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 8

2010-02-19T20:05:48Z

TheBrownSonichu:

This is fucking incredible.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 07:12, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Usually I like jumping in and making minor edits to phone calls. I did a couple to Alec calls 1 and 2. But I can't dive into this one. Alec sounds genuinely concerned about the tard. I can't be neutral on this. [[User:TheBrownSonichu|TheBrownSonichu]] 07:44, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
: It's good to see someone who seems interested in helping him out, and sticking through Chris's BS to get it done.[[User:Double Nega|Double Nega]] 13:53, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh god. I was right about the Voltorb in the toilet. Why do I feel dirty?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 14:21, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

==Transcription==

Currently up to 20:34. Gonna try to plug up to maybe 25-30 minutes. Alec fucking with Chris's bizarre grasp of metafictional reality is some next-level shit. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 12:28, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

==Beep Beep Boop Boop Beep Boop Beep==

When Chris started randomly pressing phone keys over and over again in a futile attempt to get Alec to hang up on him in frustration, I had to stop the tape because I was literally in tears laughing. [[User:Llort|Llort]] 19:59, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
: Can we be sure that he was doing that to get rid of Alec? That was my first thought too. [[User:TheBrownSonichu|TheBrownSonichu]] 20:05, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 8

2010-02-19T20:05:29Z

TheBrownSonichu:

This is fucking incredible.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 07:12, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Usually I like jumping in and making minor edits to phone calls. I did a couple to Alec calls 1 and 2. But I can't dive into this one. Alec sounds genuinely concerned about the tard. I can't be neutral on this. [[User:TheBrownSonichu|TheBrownSonichu]] 07:44, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
: It's good to see someone who seems interested in helping him out, and sticking through Chris's BS to get it done.[[User:Double Nega|Double Nega]] 13:53, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh god. I was right about the Voltorb in the toilet. Why do I feel dirty?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 14:21, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

==Transcription==

Currently up to 20:34. Gonna try to plug up to maybe 25-30 minutes. Alec fucking with Chris's bizarre grasp of metafictional reality is some next-level shit. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 12:28, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

==Beep Beep Boop Boop Beep Boop Beep==

When Chris started randomly pressing phone keys over and over again in a futile attempt to get Alec to hang up on him in frustration, I had to stop the tape because I was literally in tears laughing. [[User:Llort|Llort]] 19:59, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
: Can we be sure that he doing that to get rid of Alec? That was my first thought too. [[User:TheBrownSonichu|TheBrownSonichu]] 20:05, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 8

2010-02-19T07:44:59Z

TheBrownSonichu:

Talk:Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2

2010-02-15T04:34:38Z

TheBrownSonichu:

I'm gonna be transcribing this. Hopefully won't take too long.--[[User:Joson|Joson]] 16:12, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

I changed some of the lines, I think I got that indistinct bit when Chris is talking about Asperchu's feelings. He says that Asperchu has adult attitudes that Alec gave him. Chris is acknowledging that Asperchu is an adult and exists in an world where he can have his own thoughts, who might be sensitive by his mental deficiencies (like Chris) and might not want a name associated with his special condition.

This is important to clear up because Chris-chan is REALLY REALLY self conscious about being considered a non-functioning member of society (sans any of the bullshit he's already done). His weird empathy (or attempts at it anyway) with nonexistent characters is starting to get to me. [[User:TheBrownSonichu|TheBrownSonichu]] 20:45, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2

2010-02-15T00:20:48Z

TheBrownSonichu:

'''Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2''' is the second of the calls between Chris and Alec Benson Leary, which took place on 28 January 2010.

==Summary==
[[Image:DeadpoolYellowBoxes.jpg|thumb|This is what Chris actually believes.]]
Alec lets Chris ramble on about the ads on the [[CWCipedia]] again before the topic changes to subjects that make Chris feel uncomfortable in his [[Mailbag]]. On the subject of Rosechu's gender and pointed tail, Chris attempts to get Alec to believe he meant for the original Raichu's tail to be dull all along and becomes angry when Alec points out that he is lying.

Chris goes on to discuss how he feels that [[Asperchu]] is a [[Chris and reality|living, breathing creature in another universe with thoughts and feelings who wouldn't want to be named Asperchu.]] Alec claims that Asperchu can't want to be named something else because Asperchu doesn't exist, and Chris responds by repeatedly calling him "[[naïve]]" for [[Fail|not believing in a cartoon world similar to what's seen in the movie ''Who Framed Roger Rabbit''.]]

They both agree to disagree, then move on to the lack of updates in [[Sonichu]]. Chris blames his [[biological clock]] for his inability to upload new pages and explains how the creative process of his work requires a pain-staking 30 minutes of typing dialogue. Chris admits to using Photoshop, but says that since his comics are hand-drawn and hand-colored, in his opinion (and also his [[Barbara Chandler|mother]]'s, apparently) Sonichu is the superior comic of the two. Alec points out that he draws his comics by hand, even if it's with a tablet, and that his art shouldn't and doesn't have any less "personality" than Chris's shit work.

Chris returns to complaining about the CWCipedia adspace, hinting that the only real reason he's negotiating with Alec at all is to get the Asperpedia ads removed. Alec brings up [[Fan:Simonchu|Simonchu]], and Chris [[Lie|denies]] [[Simonla]] was ever inspired by Simonchu. When Alec explains that Evan wants Simonchu and Simonla written out of the comic, and that Evan may consider taking legal action, Chris replies with "I'll think about it". Unsurprisingly, Evan did take [[CWCipedia#CWCipedia Closed (For Good) Due To Theft|legal action]].
{{Clear}}

==Video==

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| Stardate = 28 January 2010
| Maker = [[Asperchu|Alec Benson Leary]]
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| Performance Style = {{reason}} Reason
| Saga = {{Asperchu}} [[Asperchu]]
| Other = {{Leaked}} Leaked
| previous = [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 1]]
| next = [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 3]]
}} </center>

===Transcript===

 '''Chris''': Hello?

 '''Alec''': Hi, is this uh, is this Chris?

 '''Chris''': Yeah, this is Christian Chandler, may I help you?

 '''Alec''': Hey Chris, this is Alec Benson Leary again, how are you?

 '''Chris''': Oh! I would have expected you to call at 9:30, uh, but anyway...

 '''Alec''': Oh! I actually did try to call at 9:30, didn't get an answer so I thought I'd try again, you-your quite a difficult man to get a hold of, Chris. 

 '''Chris''': Hmm... Yeah, I can talk for a few minutes, so let's try not to belabor this conversation.

 '''Alec''': Not at all, I don't..I don't wanna drag anything out. Um, well first I'll ask you if you have anything, uh, specific that you want to bring up, cause I know that you had to go kinda abruptly last time, and I thought maybe that there was a point you didn't get to or anything.

 '''Chris''': Yeah.

 '''Alec''': Okay... Wanna go ahead with that?

 '''Chris''': Umm... well first off, you know...you know I have, um...I have gone to the CWCikipedia recently, its the Ads are still super-sized, but, they are more of a mockery towards me now, and I do not appreciate that.

 '''Alec''': Yeeeaaah, I'm sorry about that, Mao is kinda, he got a little bit of a temper, you know, h-he-he is kinda mad about this whole... the mailbag situation, emails getting deleted and all that sort of thing. You know, I-I-I um, I saw in, uh, one of your mailbags, that you said that I delete, or uh, modify a lot of my emails. I don't know where you got that impression, actually, I don't do that. You know, I try to answer every email I get thoughtfully, and fully.

 '''Chris''': Well, that's probably easy for you....probably easier for you because, yours are not as.. mean and cruel and condescending as the ones I have been getting.

 '''Alec''': Have you been getting a lot of mean ones that have not been go into the mailbag? Cause, the ones I've see... a lot of them, well they do get critical at points, but I... I dunno, it seems like they been, they just kinda wanna, you know, have some questions answered.

 '''Chris''': Yeah, But I wish they wouldn't have'ta go so critical.

 '''Alec''': Like, uh, what do you mean, like uh, what are some of the things that you found just kinda crossed the line?

 '''Chris''': Like-Like they talk about... Like they talk about copyright issues and crap...

 '''Alec''': [Trying to talk] Well that is..that is kinda of an important issue, I mean....

 '''Chris''': [Chris interrupts] BUT-but I have my own Copyright registration, that slip of paper I got from the Virginia Library of Congress...

 '''Alec''': Yeah, uh, I noticed one of the copyright related e-mails was um, someone asked if they could see, just some letter, or some evidence Sega or Nintendo gave you, uh, permission to go with Sonic and Pikachu, and that kinda stuff for Sonichu's origin story. Um, you know, if you provided those, that would silence those kind of e-mails right away.

 '''Chris''': Yeah.

 '''Alec''': I mean, you do have copyright of Sonichu, but you would still need to show Nintendos permission to publish it, you know what I mean?

 '''Chris''': Hmm...

 '''Alec''': 'Cause it has Pikachu in the origin story.

 '''Chris''': Yeah.

 '''Alec''': Yeah, yeah, I think that would be a good idea to show everyone in the mailbag, you know, that would shut up that line of questioning right away.

 '''Chris''': Yeah, but there's... also... the homosexuals, and uh, other topics, ugh, I can't remember them off the top of my head. Yeah, there's quite a few.

 '''Alec''': Like the accusations that Rosechu is a boy? I think, that was kind of a big thing-

 '''Chris''': Yeah-

 '''Alec''': People were going after-

 '''Chris''': But I, I mean, yeah, that's only before the rainbow strike, I mean, the point where that Raichu- female Raichu is within the rainbow, that would be after the rainbow strikes that Raichu. 

 '''Alec''': Hmm.

 '''Chris''': And with the power of the- with the power of the Chaotic Crystals.

 '''Alec''': Well you know-

 '''Chris''': I-it was with a point, it was as point to the end of that tail, in the two panels that preceded it, the tail was definitely dull at the end.

 '''Alec''': Uhh, well, you know, the- as far as I know, the original comic does have a point tail, like a male has, and that's- that's still on your website, isn't it?

 '''Chris''': I-

 '''Alec''': You know, one thing I thought about was the gender differences in the pokemon, that didn't, Nintendo didn't do that until a while after you created it, Sonichu, right? So, I mean, I just don't get why you didn't go with that. That would've been a good explanation, but instead you kinda lied to your fans.

 '''Chris''': What do you mean, lied? I did not lie, I mean, you look at the two pictures before the rainbow hit, the tail is dull on the tip.

 '''Alec''': Oh, well, I see that in your picture that's on the front of the CWCipedia, but on the original comic he had a pointy tail, or she, I mean.

 '''Chris''': The original- 

 '''Alec''': I've seen the original.

 '''Chris''': That's because- look, outside, that's just a line that is going outside of the square, whatever goes outside, does not necessarily count.

 '''Alec''': Uh, it doesn't look like it goes, like, outside the panel here, but... I mean, y'know... I don't really know. I know that you don't... you probably should have corrected that mistake, but you left it in. I mean, I'm just trying to- I mean, I just kinda wish that thing had gotten nipped in the bud. It kinda sucks, but this is like, a huge point of contention right now.

 '''Chris''': Yeah. Al-also, you know, another thing, I've actually found, I've actually found a forum of my loyal fans, and I have just read some posts about the ads that have been placed in the CWCipedia, and they really don't like 'em either.

 '''Alec''': Hmm.

 '''Chris''': So, I'm not alone in that. 

 '''Alec''': Well, alright. Well... you know, uh... if they wanted to buy the ad-space that's, I'm sure they could too. I mean, again, y'know, the ads, I'm gonna keep trying to talk to Mao but it's really his area. Mao's kind of the boss of the ads, I'm just kind of the artistic genius. Mao does the business work. 

 '''Chris''': Yeah, that definitely do not appreciate that- that drawing of me, in a diaper, and then just copying and pasting my signature to that. That's just wrong.

 '''Alec''': Well, you know, um, I noticed that even after our last talk you continued referring Asperchu as Mitch. I thought we had that cleared away. I thought you knew he was Asperchu, I mean Asperchu is my original creation.

 '''Chris''': Yeah, maybe so, but still-

 '''Alec''': And I think you still have the impression that Asperchu is a Sonichu, and you know that's not true, right? Asperchu is not a Sonichu.

 '''Chris''': Hmm, yeah, okay, but still think about this, y-y-y-you picked- you gave him the condition of Aspergers.

 '''Alec''': Yes, that's correct. Oh! That's another thing. I think you, I think you thought that I gave everyone that appeared on my comic Aspergers, but only Asperchu has it. Just Asperchu.

 '''Chris''': [Sighs] Well-

 '''Alec''': Okay, you were gonna say something?

 '''Chris''': A-anyway, still, I think you could understand, since you have Aspergers and conservely, with my Autism, that we would pref- we don't really don't wanna be treated as sep- as treated as quote-unquote, "special" because of our mental conditions, we want to be treated as equal individuals.

 '''Alec''': [over Chris] Well that's certainly true, but how do you think I've been portraying Asperchu as being treated y'know different?

 '''Chris''': Try putting yourself in the shoes of your- of your Asperchu. If- if you, I mean, not only would you want to be treated as an individual equal, but-

 '''Alec''': That's how I portray him, he does everything normal people do.

 '''Chris''': But you would not want a name that empathizes the mental condition, you want a name that is more manly-

 '''Alec''': Well y'know, Chris, we don't choose our names. Our names are given to us. Asperchu never chose his name. I mean, think of it this way, the name Asperchu, if you think of that as a detriment -- I don't, but if you interpret the comic that way -- think of it as a personal, sort of, character flaw, if you will, that he has to work to overcome. All good characters have character flaws.

 '''Chris''': Yeah, I mean-

 '''Alec''': And, and, it's fiction. Sometimes characters don't always live the happiest lives in fiction, but that's part of what makes good fiction.

 '''Chris''': Yeah. Hmm, yeah, but still, think about it, what if your parents had named you Asper?

 '''Alec''': Uhh...

 '''Chris''': Just to foretell that you had Aspergers, that you would have Aspergers.

 '''Alec''': Well...

 '''Chris''': You would not want that [stammers] you were being treated- wanting to be treated as an equal in society, you would not to be called Asper because-

 '''Alec''': But Chris-

 '''Chris''': Because that emphasizes the mental condition you have.

 '''Alec''': Okay Chris, that's part of the, again, character flaw Asperchu has things weighing him down, he has curses and... y'know, not literal curses, but he has detriments to his life that weigh him down as a character, and he has to work to overcome those. That's part of what makes a good character. You wouldn't make a character that's just [[Sonichu|all powerful and perfect in every way and has no real problems ever]], would you? That'd be kinda boring. Complex characters have problems that they overcome.

 '''Chris''': Yeah.

 '''Alec''': And it takes, it takes time, too, to overcome a serious problem, I mean, you just renamed him Mitch, and that wouldn't do it, y'know you can't just go and snap your fingers and just wave the problem away and- 1. That's not realistic, and 2. That doesn't make for good fiction, I mean, all the drama you're building up, y'know, your readers really wouldn't really like that if you just kinda hand-waved it away, don't you think?

 '''Chris''': Alright, yeah, okay, but still-

 '''Alec''': Think about it like this: Superman is named Superman because he's super, right? And y'know, Superman is one of the most- [Alec is cut off]

 '''Chris''': I mean- as- as-as an individual, within his own world, outside of your control, Asperchu would not want that name, he would be in agreement with me, and would probably want to change his name to something like Mitch.

 '''Alec''': Ah, but the thing there is, Asperchu is not outside of my control because it's a comic, and I am the creator and, y'know, manager of his comic universe. So, I- as his creator I decide what Asperchu wants and what he doesn't want, and what his personality is like.

 '''Chris''': Hmm.

 '''Alec''': I mean, don't you think?

 '''Chris''': Fairly. I mean, have you ever watched the movie, "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?"

 '''Alec''': Yes I have, it was a good movie.

 '''Chris''': Yeah, yeah, you got the whole toon world there, and within that, it coincides with the comic as well, and every individual comic, published or unpublished, drawn altogether. And within the world, actually, would reside your Asperchu, but he would be with his individual thoughts since you gave him an adult attitude within his, within his individual thoughts, he would- he would hate having the name of Asperchu 'cause it emphasizes his mental problem. 

 '''Alec''': Umm...

 '''Chris''': His special condition. And he's like, his process of wanting to move from that, and become more acceptable in society, that he would not want a name that would make him feel...

 '''Alec''': Okay...

 '''Chris''': Like as if he's still living it, even after he's fully recovered from it.

 '''Alec''': Okay, but Chris, um, "Who Framed Roger Rabbit", that was still a movie, and everything in it was predetermined by the movie writers and director, and there is no alternate cartoon world in reality, I mean, cartoon characters don't actually think and feel things. Okay, here's a question-

 '''Chris''': Well, you obviously are naive about that, cause you're not fully underst-, you're not understanding that possibility of that universe actually existing.

 '''Alec''': So you do believe that, um, when an artist creates a cartoon character, that character becomes real? That what you're saying to me?

 '''Chris''': Within that universe, yes.

[Raucous laughter can be heard in the background]

 '''Alec''': But the universe is fake. I mean, the Asperchu universe exists on paper and in my computer. It's just, it's whatever I write it to be. Oh, here's a question for you. Okay, so if you think a character would want, you know, and appropriate name, a good name, not a name that calls them out on something, or sets them back, um... Sonichu is the name of a species, correct? I mean, there's Sonichus and Rosechus, those are a species, right?

 '''Chris''': Yeah, but, he was the first one, the first original Sonichu, and she was the original Rosechu-

 '''Alec''': So, wouldn't they want their own--

 '''Chris''': [Indignant] And-and they each came up with their name, on their own, and they did not need a nickname to go with that.

 '''Alec''': Yeah, but Chris, if you're a human being would you be comfortable just being named, Human? Or Man? I mean, you wouldn't- would you be comfortable if the name Christian Weston Chandler didn't exist, and you were just called, Man, or Person or something?

 '''Chris''': Hmm.

 '''Alec''': I mean, y'know Homo Sapiens-

 '''Chris''': Yeah but I would [Chris and Alec talk over each other]

 '''Alec''': ...Homo Sapien.

 '''Chris''': Yes, but still-

 '''Alec''': Homo, homo.

 '''Chris''': I was not the first human being, and I actually had parents who gave me that name. Sonichu came in, he had to come up with his own name-

 '''Alec''': Well, Sonichu had you who gave him that name didn't he? I mean, within the comic, you Christian Weston Chandler are Sonichu's father right? I mean, why wouldn't, why wouldn't your cartoon self give him a name?

 '''Chris''':: Uh, that's the cartoon me, versus the real me.

 '''Alec''': Okay, but isn't the cartoon you... Okay, like you said cartoons are basically real, I mean, so shouldn't the cartoon version of you be just like you? Wouldn't you want to give your child a name? I mean you-

 '''Chris''': I did give him a name, he's the original Sonichu, so therefore, it's as such.

 '''Alec''': But all the other Sonichus also have nicknames, or secondary names, so, so the first Sonichu, I gotta think is feeling kinda left out. 

 '''Chris''': Well, he doesn't feel left out. He accepts that, and he's happy with it, just as Rosechu.

 '''Alec''':: Okay, well, I don't think Asperchu feels left out because, y'know, he's just my cartoon character. He's my property, y'know, he's my intellectual property, that's what he is. You can't have a person as property, so you know, he's my property, he's not a person, he doesn't feel things, he doesn't think.

 '''Chris''': Okay, well still, what if you could actually could see- what if you could actually could see the child with your girlfriend or wife? Then, would you feel that you own that child even after you have raised him from being a baby, to, let's say, late teenage years where that child would feel more like and individual and independent being?

 '''Alec''':: [clearly frustrated with Chris's nonsense] Chris, you do understand, that a child, a human being is substantially more that a comic character, right? They're not the same thing, they're not even close. Of course I would name a child, children are real, and children are not our property, I mean if I had a child, I would give it all the love and support it needed, but it is it's own person, he or she, I should say. Where as a comic character is just, it's whatever you draw on paper or in PhotoShop. I mean, I draw Asperchu on paper, that's the only place he exists. And then I upload him onto my computer and that's where he exists, and he exists on the web. So I have a character, he grows, but he's never a person.

 '''Chris''': Hmm. Well anyway, this is confusing to think about. Okay- well- yeah...

 '''Alec''':: We can agree to disagree.

 '''Chris''': Okay, what if As- what if the shoe was on the other foot- what if Asperchu created you?

 '''Alec''':: Well then, I'd be a comic character, myself, and I wouldn't have any thoughts and feelings, so that's a moot point.

 '''Chris''': You think that comic character wouldn't have it's own thoughts and feelings?

 '''Alec''':: NO.

 '''Chris''': You are naive.

 '''Alec''':: Chris, you have told me that you think a comic character is fundamentally as much of a person as a real human being, that is the naive thought.

 '''Chris''': No, you are-

 '''Alec''':: I'm a writer, I'm like the god of the Asperchu world. I decide what goes on in Asperchu's world, I decide, who and what Asperchu is and what he thinks and feels, if anything, which he doesn't, because he's still just a character on paper, y'know, when I put the pen down, Asperchu stops being there. Nothing exists in Asperchu's world that I haven't drawn.

 '''Chris''': [Sighs] Boy, you are-

 '''Alec''':: And it's naive to think that there's anything more.

 '''Chris''': [Sighs again]

 '''Alec''':: You know, I'm, uh- I think we should agree to disagree on this point.

 '''Chris''':Alright.

 '''Alec''': Um, because we have our own thoughts on that. Um, I kinda ask you about- I'm actually getting some letters about Sonichu, about why you're not updating daily, and I was kinda curious about that.

 '''Chris''': I- for your information, I am updating daily. I draw two pages- I draw and color my two pages a day. I can't help if I don't have access to my computer or if I can't get to it right away, besides which, my biological clock has been fickle on me and it's making me go- making fall asleep early.

 '''Alec''': Well, I understand-

 '''Chris''': And it's difficult to rearrange my schedule, and get back in- in a sync-synchronized routine like I would be.

 '''Alec''': Maybe you could get an alarm clock. You know, I- I'm just kinda curious, like, I know it takes, what, like an hour to do each page, about what you spend, I would kinda guess. Um, I'm just kinda confused why you'd spend an hour to draw a page, but not take that extra sixty seconds to upload it. I think consistency is important thing- 

 '''Chris''': But, wait, it could take- it takes more than sixty seconds to scan it in Photoshop, then upload it. It would probably take like half an hour for all that work.

 '''Alec''': I didn't know you did PhotoShop work with your pages. What do you, what do you use PhotoShop for, if I may ask? I'm just kinda curious. I thought you just-

 '''Chris''': T-t-to change it from more hand-written text, to more legible typed text.

 '''Alec''': Y'know, If I remember right, I think kinda one of the criticisms you had about Asperchu was that it was not completely hand-drawn original. Because I do use PhotoShop in part of my creative process, but it sounds like you do kind of the same thing. Which is, you know, that's fine. Digital, digital media is where our world is going, but I thought- see I thought you drew it all on paper and uploaded it.

 '''Chris''': I did draw it all on paper. The only part I edit in PhotoShop is the text; what you reeead.

 '''Alec''': 'Kay, I thought so. Well, it just seems a little hypocritical, but you do use PhotoShop in the creative process, but you criticized me for it. Don't you think?

 '''Chris''': No, actually, what I thought, is that you skip the hand-drawing and you draw everything on your PhotoShop with your computer mouse.

 '''Alec''': Well I don't-- here's what I do. I do sometimes draw the pages on paper, um, I'm kinda trying to shy away from that because, our society wastes so much paper, so I'm trying to be a little more socially responsible. But what I do, I use a tablet, and I draw on that, and that's basically the same thing as pen and paper, it's, uh, what I draw goes directly on the computer screen. So I don't use a mouse. 

 '''Chris''': Hmm.

 '''Alec''': Yeah, it's the same thing-

 '''Chris''': Okay, but still, it looks crappy compared to mine. Even my mother agrees.

 '''Alec''': Oh, hey, hey, hey, c'mon that's a little insulting Chris, what do you mean, "crappy"? I mean, my mother says my comic is the most beautiful comic she's ever seen too but, I kind of think that's because she's a supportive mother. You know, mothers are supposed to support their children in their endeavors. And I have, y'know, got 20,000 fans now that love it too. None of them are my mother. My mother doesn't actually use a computer, I just show her the print-outs.

[There is a brief silence]

 '''Alec''': Y'know I get complemented on my art all the time. 

 '''Chris''': Hmm.

 '''Alec''': I mean, it's okay to disagree. I just, I'm curious why you think it's crappy?

 '''Chris''': Because it's computer drawn. It's not originally hand-drawn.

 '''Alec''': I just told you, it is hand-drawn. It's hand-drawn on a tablet. What do you mean, it's not an original hand-drawn?

 '''Chris''': It don't have the old-fashioned original pencil or pen markings, that's what I have.

 '''Alec''': So, because I don't have smudge-marks on my paper, is that's what you mean? That was another reason I went with the tablet, because I got a lot of smudge-marks on my paper when I was doing math and I had to spend extra time erasing it. Y'know is-- okay, by comparison, could I say that our cars are not true original transportation because people should be using old-fashioned horses? You use PhotoShop for lettering and effects. We're one in the same here, Chris.

 '''Chris''': [Sighs]

 '''Alec''': And-and again, I just don't see why, the exact method I use to draw determines the skill of my art. Weren't you um, I remember recently, didn't you put, like, a live picture of yourself in your comic for some Guitar Hero theme? I mean, you didn't draw that part in, did you?

 '''Chris''': I-I-It at least allows me, to put myself in my work. See, a bigger difference between drawing with a tablet or mouse versus hand-drawn is that you see more personality with the orig-- with the pen-marking, and color-- and marker coloring versus whats... whats digitally entered-

 '''Alec''': Well, if you feel that way. If you feel that way, I respect your opinion, but, I mean, y'know, 20,000 fans can't be wrong, and not a single one of them have ever said anything.

 '''Chris''': Okay well--okay well, l-let me give you a better example on that. Okay, say you got, uh, two letters, two exact same letters from a person, from the same person. One hand-written, and one computerized and printed, which one would you think would have more personality, or would appeal to you better?

 '''Alec''': I honestly don't remember the last time anyone wrote me a hand-written letter. I don't even remember the last time I wrote a hand-written letter, I type everything, every kind of- I mean, typing looks more professional.

 '''Chris''': Professional, yes, but-

 '''Alec''': I mean, hand-written wouldn't get you a job, or anything.

[[Image:MoarCharacter.jpg|thumb|Artist's depiction.]]
 '''Chris''': At least I have had all the practice of hand-writing, and that- there's more character, more personality put into it, in hand-writing versus what you would just see, everyday in a monosynchronic(?) sense.

 '''Alec''': Well, you know why you see it everyday, everywhere, Chris? You see it everywhere, because it works. Because that's what people prefer.

 '''Chris''': [Sighs]

 '''Alec''': I think we're getting kinda off-topic, I mean I just-- I kinda wanna go back to, um, I understand it can be difficult to get to your computer and upload things, you know in a timely fashion, sometimes, you're not at your computer, things like that, but, I mean, Sonichu's your franchise, a lot of fans I know are getting kind of, y'know, fed up that you don't have pages uploaded everyday. I mean, Sonichu is your, that's your franchise, right? I just, I dunno, I mean, I got a lot of stuff going on in my day too, but I make sure to get at least one or two pages uploaded everyday. Which has been more difficult since my school term started, 'cause I'm in full time school, and, y'know, I work still, I'm still working at the station but... that's just a recommendation, but... again, I know it's difficult, but I recommend that you try. That's all I'm saying.

 '''Chris''': Yeah, well, I am drawing- I have been drawing the pages, and like I said, I cannot help it if I can't upload on some days, but at least I do upload them in the bulk on when I can upload.

 '''Alec''': You know, for a while, for a couple months, you were uploading most everyday weren't you? I mean, has something, has something, has your schedule gotten busier recently or something?

Chris: I've been falling asleep earlier. And with that, it's hard- and with that it's harder for me to readjust my schedule.

 '''Alec''': You know Chris, if I fell asleep on my job, I'd probably lose my job. I mean, Sonichu is supposed to be your big franchise, right? I mean... if fell asleep while drawing Asperchu and I started missing days, I would buy myself and alarm clock. Or I would upload them earlier, before I knew I was gonna get tired, or whatever.

 '''Chris''': Yeah.

 '''Alec''': It's just-

 '''Chris''': Anyway, anyway I haven't been able to get my schedule around and I just haven't been able to get it in sync yet.

 '''Alec''': What's uh... if I may ask, what's... has something been going on that's been throwing your schedule for a loop? I mean, you-you haven't made videos in the past couple of days but you know prior to that, you were making videos fairly frequently, mostly attacking me. 

 '''Chris''': Originally did-- originally when I did the videos it was not necessarily on a daily basis, that's not like, journal, a video is not like a journal to me.

 '''Alec''': Well but, you know, if you spend 5, 10, 15 minutes making a video, that's time you could be uploading a comic. But instead you make videos attacking me. 

 '''Chris''': [Sighs] Pl-plus, the battery power on my digital camera is fickle.

 '''Alec''': What does your digital camera have to do with uploading pages? I'm saying you shouldn't be using the camera, you shouldn't be making videos. You know why I haven't made any videos, Chris? It's cause I don't have time, I'm uploading pages that and-- that and I don't make death threats to people on the internet, that's not a... I mean, you know-- you know you really hurt my feelings when you started doing those Chris, because, like I said you started as my inspiration and a couple months later you became my troll.

 '''Chris''': [Sighs]

 '''Alec''': I know you have trolls, you know, it sucks.

 '''Chris''': Yeah.

 '''Alec''': It really sucks to have people attacking you like that, but you became my troll.

 '''Chris''': Alright well... you know, how 'bout you just tell Mao that I... if he just... I'll leave y'all alone, let y'all do your thang... y'all take your ads off my website.

 '''Alec''': That's just not a... that's not a sound business move for me, Chris. Those ads are bringing in a lot of viewers

 '''Chris''': [Sighs] So, put 'em on another website.

 '''Alec''': Well, what if that website tells me that, y'know, they don't want them there, then should I move to another website, and then another, and then another... Mao's job is to bring in fans for me, that's what he's doing and he's doing it well, and that's why I keep him-

 '''Chris''': Well, Mao- Mao never asked me before he could- before he put anything up there or before he paid off Jack Thaddeus.

 '''Alec''': Well, he doesn't have to, that's the way ads work. You buy adspace that's publically available. Advertising is not under your control.

 '''Chris''': Ye-Yeh- But I was- but I was never there to witness that monetary transaction, I was never there for that quote-unquote "agreement".

 '''Alec''': You don't own the site, Chris.

 '''Chris''': ...what?

 '''Alec''': You don't own that site. Right? I mean, the money from the ads go to keep the site up, that's my understanding.

 '''Chris''': [Sighs] Actually, you're wrong, you see, Mao ga-put- gave that to 2000 Euros directly to Jack Thaddeus actually put that 2000 Euros into the CWCipedia funds, so therefore, Mao never saw his money in his money in the CWCipedia funds, they just went straight to Jack.

 '''Alec''': Um, I'm not really sure. I've never spoken to Jack, I don't know anything about what he and Mao talked about, y'know I'd kinda like to help you out, honestly I would, but I'm still a little... I'm a little miffed that um... even after we had a pretty good talk last time, but you still kept going with this whole Mitch business. I mean, you took my character, and altered him. You say, you say that I didn't get permission to use Sonichu, but you didn't get permission to use Asperchu either.

 '''Chris''': Yeah, well...

 '''Alec''': Or Simonchu! I-I-I almost forgot to mention that, Evan wanted me to talk to you about that, about using Simonchu. Y'know, Simonchu was his creation and you used that without permission. And he asked you several times, not- to get rid of Simonchu and Simonla, or whatever her female form is. But- 

 '''Chris''': Yeah, but actually, Simonla was never very inspired by Simonchu... I took an original Rosechu, I changed her to a ground color, gave her the complexion, added an armadillo shell, and then a few drills in appropriate faces- places.

 '''Alec''': So kind of how I took a Sonic, and make him yellow, and gave him a goatee and glasses, and a Buddha belly, and thus was born Asperchu. And, it was- you thought it was a parody, but it just happened to be... that kinda what you're going with, for there? I mean, why didn't you just say that to Evan in the first place, 'cause he has been e-mailing you for a long time 

 '''Chris''': I-I told him- I responded- I told him that in response- in response to why those messages in the mailbag, but apparently, he had not read that.

 '''Alec''': Okay, uhm... let's see, I'm looking at the Simonla at your CWCipedia here, um, you say that... I'll just read what it says here: About, on or before August 26, 2008, I received and e-mail from Evan George, uhh... submitting his Sonichu fan-art to me, then later submitted his idea for Simonchu, it did not strike as good at first but for a few months, I wanted to create a ground type, um... so from Simonchu, I created Simonla Rosechu. That's on the Simonla article for your Cwcipedia. I mean that's, smoking gun, Chris, that's proof, that you used Simonchu as a base.

 '''Chris''': [Groans]

 '''Alec''': I'm... y'know I'm not trying to attack you with this but I really think this is Evan's, that you should get rid of Simonchu and Simonla, write 'em out. 'Cause the facts are right there Chris.

 '''Chris''': Well, actually it was not like that, I typed it in because Evan was badgering me as such, and it just stuck in my head, and pretty much stuck... when I typed it in originally. 

 '''Alec''': Why would that just stick in your head, why would that happen? Why would it stick in your head, unless it's true?

 '''Chris''': [Trying to think of an excuse]I put it in there to make a mockery out of him!

 '''Alec''': Well, then you kind of... kind of lied about it to people, didn't you? I mean, 'cause everyone else thinks that's the honest truth

 '''Chris''': Well, I can stick- well I can change that and fix it.

 '''Alec''': Doesn't matter, you already established it. I mean, when it comes to, like, copyright, and that sort of thing, Chris, I mean, the one thing that matters more that anything else is documentation, and history. And all of your documentation shows that you used Simonchu as inspiration. You acknowledge lega liability here. Whether it was a joke or not, you wrote it like it was real. And Evan's been pester-

 '''Chris''': [Chris lets out a big sigh]

 '''Alec''': ...ing me to talk to you, 'cause apparently you're ignoring his e-mails... although you ignore my e-mails too. I mean, like I said, it was a pain just to get a hold of you. I mean, for a guy who has so much to say to me, you are hard to get a hold of.

 '''Chris''': Hmm.

 '''Alec''': I mean, you, you, I'm just I wanna let you know, you do need to comply with Evan's demands, 'cause he's talking about litigation, and that if he want to get a lawyer over this. He said that he'd, that he'd back off if you acknowledge, in the comic and write Simonchu and Simonla out, and y'know, say that they will be done and gone forever. He has the copyright for Simonchu. I mean, would you be willing to do that? Write 'em out? 

 '''Chris''': I'll con- I'll think about it.

 '''Alec''': Okay, well don't think too long. I mean, this is a serious issue.

 '''Chris''': [Sigh]

 '''Alec''': I'm just- I'm just trying to give you advice, Chris.

 '''Chris''': Yeah-

 '''Alec''': I don't wanna see litigation out of this.

 '''Chris''': Hmm... anyway I'm feeling tired right now.

 '''Alec''': Okay well, I'll let you go, um... you have a good night, Chris.

 '''Chris''': Alright, goodnight.

 '''Alec''': Goodnight.

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==External Links==

*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGB99JTZJes The Call on Youtube]

[[Category:Phone calls]]

Talk:Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2

2010-02-14T20:45:37Z

TheBrownSonichu:

I'm gonna be transcribing this. Hopefully won't take too long.--[[User:Joson|Joson]] 16:12, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

I changed some of the lines, I think I got that indistinct bit when Chris is talking about. He says that Asperchu has adult attitudes that Alec gave him. Chris is acknowledging that Asperchu is an adult and exists in an world where he can have his own thoughts, who might be sensitive by his mental deficiencies (like Chris) and might not want a name associated with his special condition.

This is important to clear up because Chris-chan is REALLY REALLY self conscious about being considered a non-functioning member of society (sans any of the bullshit he's already done). His weird empathy (or attempts at it anyway) with nonexistent characters is starting to get to me. [[User:TheBrownSonichu|TheBrownSonichu]] 20:45, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2

2010-02-14T20:36:00Z

TheBrownSonichu:

'''Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2''' is the second of the calls between Chris and Alec Benson Leary, which took place on 28 January 2010.

==Summary==
[[Image:DeadpoolYellowBoxes.jpg|thumb|This is what Chris actually believes.]]
Alec lets Chris ramble on about the ads on the [[CWCipedia]] again before the topic changes to subjects that make Chris feel uncomfortable in his [[Mailbag]]. On the subject of Rosechu's gender and pointed tail, Chris attempts to get Alec to believe he meant for the original Raichu's tail to be dull all along and becomes angry when Alec points out that he is lying.

Chris goes on to discuss how he feels that [[Asperchu]] is a [[Chris and reality|living, breathing creature in another universe with thoughts and feelings who wouldn't want to be named Asperchu.]] Alec claims that Asperchu can't want to be named something else because Asperchu doesn't exist, and Chris responds by repeatedly calling him "[[naïve]]" for [[Fail|not believing in a cartoon world similar to what's seen in the movie ''Who Framed Roger Rabbit''.]]

They both agree to disagree, then move on to the lack of updates in [[Sonichu]]. Chris blames his [[biological clock]] for his inability to upload new pages and explains how the creative process of his work requires a pain-staking 30 minutes of typing dialogue. Chris admits to using Photoshop, but says that since his comics are hand-drawn and hand-colored, in his opinion (and also his [[Barbara Chandler|mother]]'s, apparently) Sonichu is the superior comic of the two. Alec points out that he draws his comics by hand, even if it's with a tablet, and that his art shouldn't and doesn't have any less "personality" than Chris's shit work.

Chris returns to complaining about the CWCipedia adspace, hinting that the only real reason he's negotiating with Alec at all is to get the Asperpedia ads removed. Alec brings up [[Fan:Simonchu|Simonchu]], and Chris [[Lie|denies]] [[Simonla]] was ever inspired by Simonchu. When Alec explains that Evan wants Simonchu and Simonla written out of the comic, and that Evan may consider taking legal action, Chris replies with "I'll think about it". Unsurprisingly, Evan did take [[CWCipedia#CWCipedia Closed (For Good) Due To Theft|legal action]].
{{Clear}}

==Video==

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| name = Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2
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| Stardate = 28 January 2010
| Maker = [[Asperchu|Alec Benson Leary]]
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| Performance Style = {{reason}} Reason
| Saga = {{Asperchu}} [[Asperchu]]
| Other = {{Leaked}} Leaked
| previous = [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 1]]
| next = [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 3]]
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===Transcript===

 '''Chris''': Hello?

 '''Alec''': Hi, is this uh, is this Chris?

 '''Chris''': Yeah, this is Christian Chandler, may I help you?

 '''Alec''': Hey Chris, this is Alec Benson Leary again, how are you?

 '''Chris''': Oh! I would have expected you to call at 9:30, uh, but anyway...

 '''Alec''': Oh! I actually did try to call at 9:30, didn't get an answer so I thought I'd try again, you-your quite a difficult man to get a hold of, Chris. 

 '''Chris''': Hmm... Yeah, I can talk for a few minutes, so let's try not to belabor this conversation.

 '''Alec''': Not at all, I don't..I don't wanna drag anything out. Um, well first I'll ask you if you have anything, uh, specific that you want to bring up, cause I know that you had to go kinda abruptly last time, and I thought maybe that there was a point you didn't get to or anything.

 '''Chris''': Yeah.

 '''Alec''': Okay... Wanna go ahead with that?

 '''Chris''': Umm... well first off, you know...you know I have, um...I have gone to the CWCikipedia recently, its the Ads are still super-sized, but, they are more of a mockery towards me now, and I do not appreciate that.

 '''Alec''': Yeeeaaah, I'm sorry about that, Mao is kinda, he got a little bit of a temper, you know, h-he-he is kinda mad about this whole... the mailbag situation, emails getting deleted and all that sort of thing. You know, I-I-I um, I saw in, uh, one of your mailbags, that you said that I delete, or uh, modify a lot of my emails. I don't know where you got that impression, actually, I don't do that. You know, I try to answer every email I get thoughtfully, and fully.

 '''Chris''': Well, that's probably easy for you....probably easier for you because, yours are not as.. mean and cruel and condescending as the ones I have been getting.

 '''Alec''': Have you been getting a lot of mean ones that have not been go into the mailbag? Cause, the ones I've see... a lot of them, well they do get critical at points, but I... I dunno, it seems like they been, they just kinda wanna, you know, have some questions answered.

 '''Chris''': Yeah, But I wish they wouldn't have'ta go so critical.

 '''Alec''': Like, uh, what do you mean, like uh, what are some of the things that you found just kinda crossed the line?

 '''Chris''': Like-Like they talk about... Like they talk about copyright issues and crap...

 '''Alec''': [Trying to talk] Well that is..that is kinda of an important issue, I mean....

 '''Chris''': [Chris interrupts] BUT-but I have my own Copyright registration, that slip of paper I got from the Virginia Library of Congress...

 '''Alec''': Yeah, uh, I noticed one of the copyright related e-mails was um, someone asked if they could see, just some letter, or some evidence Sega or Nintendo gave you, uh, permission to go with Sonic and Pikachu, and that kinda stuff for Sonichu's origin story. Um, you know, if you provided those, that would silence those kind of e-mails right away.

 '''Chris''': Yeah.

 '''Alec''': I mean, you do have copyright of Sonichu, but you would still need to show Nintendos permission to publish it, you know what I mean?

 '''Chris''': Hmm...

 '''Alec''': 'Cause it has Pikachu in the origin story.

 '''Chris''': Yeah.

 '''Alec''': Yeah, yeah, I think that would be a good idea to show everyone in the mailbag, you know, that would shut up that line of questioning right away.

 '''Chris''': Yeah, but there's... also... the homosexuals, and uh, other topics, ugh, I can't remember them off the top of my head. Yeah, there's quite a few.

 '''Alec''': Like the accusations that Rosechu is a boy? I think, that was kind of a big thing-

 '''Chris''': Yeah-

 '''Alec''': People were going after-

 '''Chris''': But I, I mean, yeah, that's only before the rainbow strike, I mean, the point where that Raichu- female Raichu is within the rainbow, that would be after the rainbow strikes that Raichu. 

 '''Alec''': Hmm.

 '''Chris''': And with the power of the- with the power of the Chaotic Crystals.

 '''Alec''': Well you know-

 '''Chris''': I-it was with a point, it was as point to the end of that tail, in the two panels that preceded it, the tail was definitely dull at the end.

 '''Alec''': Uhh, well, you know, the- as far as I know, the original comic does have a point tail, like a male has, and that's- that's still on your website, isn't it?

 '''Chris''': I-

 '''Alec''': You know, one thing I thought about was the gender differences in the pokemon, that didn't, Nintendo didn't do that until a while after you created it, Sonichu, right? So, I mean, I just don't get why you didn't go with that. That would've been a good explanation, but instead you kinda lied to your fans.

 '''Chris''': What do you mean, lied? I did not lie, I mean, you look at the two pictures before the rainbow hit, the tail is dull on the tip.

 '''Alec''': Oh, well, I see that in your picture that's on the front of the CWCipedia, but on the original comic he had a pointy tail, or she, I mean.

 '''Chris''': The original- 

 '''Alec''': I've seen the original.

 '''Chris''': That's because- look, outside, that's just a line that is going outside of the square, whatever goes outside, does not necessarily count.

 '''Alec''': Uh, it doesn't look like it goes, like, outside the panel here, but... I mean, y'know... I don't really know. I know that you don't... you probably should have corrected that mistake, but you left it in. I mean, I'm just trying to- I mean, I just kinda wish that thing had gotten nipped in the bud. It kinda sucks, but this is like, a huge point of contention right now.

 '''Chris''': Yeah. Al-also, you know, another thing, I've actually found, I've actually found a forum of my loyal fans, and I have just read some posts about the ads that have been placed in the CWCipedia, and they really don't like 'em either.

 '''Alec''': Hmm.

 '''Chris''': So, I'm not alone in that. 

 '''Alec''': Well, alright. Well... you know, uh... if they wanted to buy the ad-space that's, I'm sure they could too. I mean, again, y'know, the ads, I'm gonna keep trying to talk to Mao but it's really his area. Mao's kind of the boss of the ads, I'm just kind of the artistic genius. Mao does the business work. 

 '''Chris''': Yeah, that definitely do not appreciate that- that drawing of me, in a diaper, and then just copying and pasting my signature to that. That's just wrong.

 '''Alec''': Well, you know, um, I noticed that even after our last talk you continued referring Asperchu as Mitch. I thought we had that cleared away. I thought you knew he was Asperchu, I mean Asperchu is my original creation.

 '''Chris''': Yeah, maybe so, but still-

 '''Alec''': And I think you still have the impression that Asperchu is a Sonichu, and you know that's not true, right? Asperchu is not a Sonichu.

 '''Chris''': Hmm, yeah, okay, but still think about this, y-y-y-you picked- you gave him the condition of Aspergers.

 '''Alec''': Yes, that's correct. Oh! That's another thing. I think you, I think you thought that I gave everyone that appeared on my comic Aspergers, but only Asperchu has it. Just Asperchu.

 '''Chris''': [Sighs] Well-

 '''Alec''': Okay, you were gonna say something?

 '''Chris''': A-anyway, still, I think you could understand, since you have Aspergers and conservely, with my Autism, that we would pref- we don't really don't wanna be treated as sep- as treated as quote-unquote, "special" because of our mental conditions, we want to be treated as equal individuals.

 '''Alec''': [over Chris] Well that's certainly true, but how do you think I've been portraying Asperchu as being treated y'know different?

 '''Chris''': Try putting yourself in the shoes of your- of your Asperchu. If- if you, I mean, not only would you want to be treated as an individual equal, but-

 '''Alec''': That's how I portray him, he does everything normal people do.

 '''Chris''': But you would not want a name that empathizes the mental condition, you want a name that is more manly-

 '''Alec''': Well y'know, Chris, we don't choose our names. Our names are given to us. Asperchu never chose his name. I mean, think of it this way, the name Asperchu, if you think of that as a detriment -- I don't, but if you interpret the comic that way -- think of it as a personal, sort of, character flaw, if you will, that he has to work to overcome. All good characters have character flaws.

 '''Chris''': Yeah, I mean-

 '''Alec''': And, and, it's fiction. Sometimes characters don't always live the happiest lives in fiction, but that's part of what makes good fiction.

 '''Chris''': Yeah. Hmm, yeah, but still, think about it, what if your parents had named you Asper?

 '''Alec''': Uhh...

 '''Chris''': Just to foretell that you had Aspergers, that you would have Aspergers.

 '''Alec''': Well...

 '''Chris''': You would not want that [stammers] you were being treated- wanting to be treated as an equal in society, you would not to be called Asper because-

 '''Alec''': But Chris-

 '''Chris''': Because that emphasizes the mental condition you have.

 '''Alec''': Okay Chris, that's part of the, again, character flaw Asperchu has things weighing him down, he has curses and... y'know, not literal curses, but he has detriments to his life that weigh him down as a character, and he has to work to overcome those. That's part of what makes a good character. You wouldn't make a character that's just [[Sonichu|all powerful and perfect in every way and has no real problems ever]], would you? That'd be kinda boring. Complex characters have problems that they overcome.

 '''Chris''': Yeah.

 '''Alec''': And it takes, it takes time, too, to overcome a serious problem, I mean, you just renamed him Mitch, and that wouldn't do it, y'know you can't just go and snap your fingers and just wave the problem away and- 1. That's not realistic, and 2. That doesn't make for good fiction, I mean, all the drama you're building up, y'know, your readers really wouldn't really like that if you just kinda hand-waved it away, don't you think?

 '''Chris''': Alright, yeah, okay, but still-

 '''Alec''': Think about it like this: Superman is named Superman because he's super, right? And y'know, Superman is one of the most- [Alec is cut off]

 '''Chris''': I mean- as- as-as an individual, within his own world, outside of your control, Asperchu would not want that name, he would be in agreement with me, and would probably want to change his name to something like Mitch.

 '''Alec''': Ah, but the thing there is, Asperchu is not outside of my control because it's a comic, and I am the creator and, y'know, manager of his comic universe. So, I- as his creator I decide what Asperchu wants and what he doesn't want, and what his personality is like.

 '''Chris''': Hmm.

 '''Alec''': I mean, don't you think?

 '''Chris''': Fairly. I mean, have you ever watched the movie, "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?"

 '''Alec''': Yes I have, it was a good movie.

 '''Chris''': Yeah, yeah, you got the whole toon world there, and within that, it coincides with the comic as well, and every individual comic, published or unpublished, drawn altogether. And within the world, actually, would reside your Asperchu, but he would be with his individual thoughts since you gave him an adult attitude within his, within his individual thoughts, he would- he would hate having the name of Asperchu 'cause it emphasizes his mental problem. 

 '''Alec''': Umm...

 '''Chris''': His special condition. And he's like, his process of wanting to move from that, and become more acceptable in society, that he would not want a name that would make him feel...

 '''Alec''': Okay...

 '''Chris''': Like as if he's still living it, even after he's fully recovered from it.

 '''Alec''': Okay, but Chris, um, "Who Framed Roger Rabbit", that was still a movie, and everything in it was predetermined by the movie writers and director, and there is no alternate cartoon world in reality, I mean, cartoon characters don't actually think and feel things. Okay, here's a question-

 '''Chris''': Well, you obviously are naive about that, cause you're not fully underst-, you're not understanding that possibility of that universe actually existing.

 '''Alec''': So you do believe that, um, when an artist creates a cartoon character, that character becomes real? That what you're saying to me?

 '''Chris''': Within that universe, yes.

[Raucous laughter can be heard in the background]

 '''Alec''': But the universe is fake. I mean, the Asperchu universe exists on paper and in my computer. It's just, it's whatever I write it to be. Oh, here's a question for you. Okay, so if you think a character would want, you know, and appropriate name, a good name, not a name that calls them out on something, or sets them back, um... Sonichu is the name of a species, correct? I mean, there's Sonichus and Rosechus, those are a species, right?

 '''Chris''': Yeah, but, he was the first one, the first original Sonichu, and she was the original Rosechu-

 '''Alec''': So, wouldn't they want their own--

 '''Chris''': [Indignant] And-and they each came up with their name, on their own, and they did not need a nickname to go with that.

 '''Alec''': Yeah, but Chris, if you're a human being would you be comfortable just being named, Human? Or Man? I mean, you wouldn't- would you be comfortable if the name Christian Weston Chandler didn't exist, and you were just called, Man, or Person or something?

 '''Chris''': Hmm.

 '''Alec''': I mean, y'know Homo Sapiens-

 '''Chris''': Yeah but I would [Chris and Alec talk over each other]

 '''Alec''': ...Homo Sapien.

 '''Chris''': Yes, but still-

 '''Alec''': Homo, homo.

 '''Chris''': I was not the first human being, and I actually had parents who gave me that name. Sonichu came in, he had to come up with his own name-

 '''Alec''': Well, Sonichu had you who gave him that name didn't he? I mean, within the comic, you Christian Weston Chandler are Sonichu's father right? I mean, why wouldn't, why wouldn't your cartoon self give him a name?

 '''Chris''':: Uh, that's the cartoon me, versus the real me.

 '''Alec''': Okay, but isn't the cartoon you... Okay, like you said cartoons are basically real, I mean, so shouldn't the cartoon version of you be just like you? Wouldn't you want to give your child a name? I mean you-

 '''Chris''': I did give him a name, he's the original Sonichu, so therefore, it's as such.

 '''Alec''': But all the other Sonichus also have nicknames, or secondary names, so, so the first Sonichu, I gotta think is feeling kinda left out. 

 '''Chris''': Well, he doesn't feel left out. He accepts that, and he's happy with it, just as Rosechu.

 '''Alec''':: Okay, well, I don't think Asperchu feels left out because, y'know, he's just my cartoon character. He's my property, y'know, he's my intellectual property, that's what he is. You can't have a person as property, so you know, he's my property, he's not a person, he doesn't feel things, he doesn't think.

 '''Chris''': Okay, well still, what if you could actually could see- what if you could actually could see the child with your girlfriend or wife? Then, would you feel that you own that child even after you have raised him from being a baby, to, let's say, late teenage years where that child would feel more like and individual and independent being?

 '''Alec''':: [clearly frustrated with Chris's nonsense] Chris, you do understand, that a child, a human being is substantially more that a comic character, right? They're not the same thing, they're not even close. Of course I would name a child, children are real, and children are not our property, I mean if I had a child, I would give it all the love and support it needed, but it is it's own person, he or she, I should say. Where as a comic character is just, it's whatever you draw on paper or in PhotoShop. I mean, I draw Asperchu on paper, that's the only place he exists. And then I upload him onto my computer and that's where he exists, and he exists on the web. So I have a character, he grows, but he's never a person.

 '''Chris''': Hmm. Well anyway, this is confusing to think about. Okay- well- yeah...

 '''Alec''':: We can agree to disagree.

 '''Chris''': Okay, what if As- what if the shoe was on the other foot- what if Asperchu created you?

 '''Alec''':: Well then, I'd be a comic character, myself, and I wouldn't have any thoughts and feelings, so that's a moot point.

 '''Chris''': You think that comic character wouldn't have it's own thoughts and feelings?

 '''Alec''':: NO.

 '''Chris''': You are naive.

 '''Alec''':: Chris, you have told me that you think a comic character is fundamentally as much of a person as a real human being, that is the naive thought.

 '''Chris''': No, you are-

 '''Alec''':: I'm a writer, I'm like the god of the Asperchu world. I decide what goes on in Asperchu's world, I decide, who and what Asperchu is and what he thinks and feels, if anything, which he doesn't, because he's still just a character on paper, y'know, when I put the pen down, Asperchu stops being there. Nothing exists in Asperchu's world that I haven't drawn.

 '''Chris''': [Sighs] Boy, you are-

 '''Alec''':: And it's naive to think that there's anything more.

 '''Chris''': [Sighs again]

 '''Alec''':: You know, I'm, uh- I think we should agree to disagree on this point.

 '''Chris''':Alright.

 '''Alec''': Um, because we have our own thoughts on that. Um, I kinda ask you about- I'm actually getting some letters about Sonichu, about why you're not updating daily, and I was kinda curious about that.

 '''Chris''': I- for your information, I am updating daily. I draw two pages- I draw and color my two pages a day. I can't help if I don't have access to my computer or if I can't get to it right away, besides which, my biological clock has been fickle on me and it's making me go- making fall asleep early.

 '''Alec''': Well, I understand-

 '''Chris''': And it's difficult to rearrange my schedule, and get back in- in a sync-synchronized routine like I would be.

 '''Alec''': Maybe you could get an alarm clock. You know, I- I'm just kinda curious, like, I know it takes, what, like an hour to do each page, about what you spend, I would kinda guess. Um, I'm just kinda confused why you'd spend an hour to draw a page, but not take that extra sixty seconds to upload it. I think consistency is important thing- 

 '''Chris''': But, wait, it could take- it takes more than sixty seconds to scan it in Photoshop, then upload it. It would probably take like half an hour for all that work.

 '''Alec''': I didn't know you did PhotoShop work with your pages. What do you, what do you use PhotoShop for, if I may ask? I'm just kinda curious. I thought you just-

 '''Chris''': T-t-to change it from more hand-written text, to more legible typed text.

 '''Alec''': Y'know, If I remember right, I think kinda one of the criticisms you had about Asperchu was that it was not completely hand-drawn original. Because I do use PhotoShop in part of my creative process, but it sounds like you do kind of the same thing. Which is, you know, that's fine. Digital, digital media is where our world is going, but I thought- see I thought you drew it all on paper and uploaded it.

 '''Chris''': I did draw it all on paper. The only part I edit in PhotoShop is the text; what you reeead.

 '''Alec''': 'Kay, I thought so. Well, it just seems a little hypocritical, but you do use PhotoShop in the creative process, but you criticized me for it. Don't you think?

 '''Chris''': No, actually, what I thought, is that you skip the hand-drawing and you draw everything on your PhotoShop with your computer mouse.

 '''Alec''': Well I don't-- here's what I do. I do sometimes draw the pages on paper, um, I'm kinda trying to shy away from that because, our society wastes so much paper, so I'm trying to be a little more socially responsible. But what I do, I use a tablet, and I draw on that, and that's basically the same thing as pen and paper, it's, uh, what I draw goes directly on the computer screen. So I don't use a mouse. 

 '''Chris''': Hmm.

 '''Alec''': Yeah, it's the same thing-

 '''Chris''': Okay, but still, it looks crappy compared to mine. Even my mother agrees.

 '''Alec''': Oh, hey, hey, hey, c'mon that's a little insulting Chris, what do you mean, "crappy"? I mean, my mother says my comic is the most beautiful comic she's ever seen too but, I kind of think that's because she's a supportive mother. You know, mothers are supposed to support their children in their endeavors. And I have, y'know, got 20,000 fans now that love it too. None of them are my mother. My mother doesn't actually use a computer, I just show her the print-outs.

[There is a brief silence]

 '''Alec''': Y'know I get complemented on my art all the time. 

 '''Chris''': Hmm.

 '''Alec''': I mean, it's okay to disagree. I just, I'm curious why you think it's crappy?

 '''Chris''': Because it's computer drawn. It's not originally hand-drawn.

 '''Alec''': I just told you, it is hand-drawn. It's hand-drawn on a tablet. What do you mean, it's not an original hand-drawn?

 '''Chris''': It don't have the old-fashioned original pencil or pen markings, that's what I have.

 '''Alec''': So, because I don't have smudge-marks on my paper, is that's what you mean? That was another reason I went with the tablet, because I got a lot of smudge-marks on my paper when I was doing math and I had to spend extra time erasing it. Y'know is-- okay, by comparison, could I say that our cars are not true original transportation because people should be using old-fashioned horses? You use PhotoShop for lettering and effects. We're one in the same here, Chris.

 '''Chris''': [Sighs]

 '''Alec''': And-and again, I just don't see why, the exact method I use to draw determines the skill of my art. Weren't you um, I remember recently, didn't you put, like, a live picture of yourself in your comic for some Guitar Hero theme? I mean, you didn't draw that part in, did you?

 '''Chris''': I-I-It at least allows me, to put myself in my work. See, a bigger difference between drawing with a tablet or mouse versus hand-drawn is that you see more personality with the orig-- with the pen-marking, and color-- and marker coloring versus whats... whats digitally entered-

 '''Alec''': Well, if you feel that way. If you feel that way, I respect your opinion, but, I mean, y'know, 20,000 fans can't be wrong, and not a single one of them have ever said anything.

 '''Chris''': Okay well--okay well, l-let me give you a better example on that. Okay, say you got, uh, two letters, two exact same letters from a person, from the same person. One hand-written, and one computerized and printed, which one would you think would have more personality, or would appeal to you better?

 '''Alec''': I honestly don't remember the last time anyone wrote me a hand-written letter. I don't even remember the last time I wrote a hand-written letter, I type everything, every kind of- I mean, typing looks more professional.

 '''Chris''': Professional, yes, but-

 '''Alec''': I mean, hand-written wouldn't get you a job, or anything.

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 '''Chris''': At least I have had all the practice of hand-writing, and that- there's more character, more personality put into it, in hand-writing versus what you would just see, everyday in a monosynchronic(?) sense.

 '''Alec''': Well, you know why you see it everyday, everywhere, Chris? You see it everywhere, because it works. Because that's what people prefer.

 '''Chris''': [Sighs]

 '''Alec''': I think we're getting kinda off-topic, I mean I just-- I kinda wanna go back to, um, I understand it can be difficult to get to your computer and upload things, you know in a timely fashion, sometimes, you're not at your computer, things like that, but, I mean, Sonichu's your franchise, a lot of fans I know are getting kind of, y'know, fed up that you don't have pages uploaded everyday. I mean, Sonichu is your, that's your franchise, right? I just, I dunno, I mean, I got a lot of stuff going on in my day too, but I make sure to get at least one or two pages uploaded everyday. Which has been more difficult since my school term started, 'cause I'm in full time school, and, y'know, I work still, I'm still working at the station but... that's just a recommendation, but... again, I know it's difficult, but I recommend that you try. That's all I'm saying.

 '''Chris''': Yeah, well, I am drawing- I have been drawing the pages, and like I said, I cannot help it if I can't upload on some days, but at least I do upload them in the bulk on when I can upload.

 '''Alec''': You know, for a while, for a couple months, you were uploading most everyday weren't you? I mean, has something, has something, has your schedule gotten busier recently or something?

Chris: I've been falling asleep earlier. And with that, it's hard- and with that it's harder for me to readjust my schedule.

 '''Alec''': You know Chris, if I fell asleep on my job, I'd probably lose my job. I mean, Sonichu is supposed to be your big franchise, right? I mean... if fell asleep while drawing Asperchu and I started missing days, I would buy myself and alarm clock. Or I would upload them earlier, before I knew I was gonna get tired, or whatever.

 '''Chris''': Yeah.

 '''Alec''': It's just-

 '''Chris''': Anyway, anyway I haven't been able to get my schedule around and I just haven't been able to get it in sync yet.

 '''Alec''': What's uh... if I may ask, what's... has something been going on that's been throwing your schedule for a loop? I mean, you-you haven't made videos in the past couple of days but you know prior to that, you were making videos fairly frequently, mostly attacking me. 

 '''Chris''': Originally did-- originally when I did the videos it was not necessarily on a daily basis, that's not like, journal, a video is not like a journal to me.

 '''Alec''': Well but, you know, if you spend 5, 10, 15 minutes making a video, that's time you could be uploading a comic. But instead you make videos attacking me. 

 '''Chris''': [Sighs] Pl-plus, the battery power on my digital camera is fickle.

 '''Alec''': What does your digital camera have to do with uploading pages? I'm saying you shouldn't be using the camera, you shouldn't be making videos. You know why I haven't made any videos, Chris? It's cause I don't have time, I'm uploading pages that and-- that and I don't make death threats to people on the internet, that's not a... I mean, you know-- you know you really hurt my feelings when you started doing those Chris, because, like I said you started as my inspiration and a couple months later you became my troll.

 '''Chris''': [Sighs]

 '''Alec''': I know you have trolls, you know, it sucks.

 '''Chris''': Yeah.

 '''Alec''': It really sucks to have people attacking you like that, but you became my troll.

 '''Chris''': Alright well... you know, how 'bout you just tell Mao that I... if he just... I'll leave y'all alone, let y'all do your thang... y'all take your ads off my website.

 '''Alec''': That's just not a... that's not a sound business move for me, Chris. Those ads are bringing in a lot of viewers

 '''Chris''': [Sighs] So, put 'em on another website.

 '''Alec''': Well, what if that website tells me that, y'know, they don't want them there, then should I move to another website, and then another, and then another... Mao's job is to bring in fans for me, that's what he's doing and he's doing it well, and that's why I keep him-

 '''Chris''': Well, Mao- Mao never asked me before he could- before he put anything up there or before he paid off Jack Thaddeus.

 '''Alec''': Well, he doesn't have to, that's the way ads work. You buy adspace that's publically available. Advertising is not under your control.

 '''Chris''': Ye-Yeh- But I was- but I was never there to witness that monetary transaction, I was never there for that quote-unquote "agreement".

 '''Alec''': You don't own the site, Chris.

 '''Chris''': ...what?

 '''Alec''': You don't own that site. Right? I mean, the money from the ads go to keep the site up, that's my understanding.

 '''Chris''': [Sighs] Actually, you're wrong, you see, Mao ga-put- gave that to 2000 Euros directly to Jack Thaddeus actually put that 2000 Euros into the CWCipedia funds, so therefore, Mao never saw his money in his money in the CWCipedia funds, they just went straight to Jack.

 '''Alec''': Um, I'm not really sure. I've never spoken to Jack, I don't know anything about what he and Mao talked about, y'know I'd kinda like to help you out, honestly I would, but I'm still a little... I'm a little miffed that um... even after we had a pretty good talk last time, but you still kept going with this whole Mitch business. I mean, you took my character, and altered him. You say, you say that I didn't get permission to use Sonichu, but you didn't get permission to use Asperchu either.

 '''Chris''': Yeah, well...

 '''Alec''': Or Simonchu! I-I-I almost forgot to mention that, Evan wanted me to talk to you about that, about using Simonchu. Y'know, Simonchu was his creation and you used that without permission. And he asked you several times, not- to get rid of Simonchu and Simonla, or whatever her female form is. But- 

 '''Chris''': Yeah, but actually, Simonla was never very inspired by Simonchu... I took an original Rosechu, I changed her to a ground color, gave her the complexion, added an armadillo shell, and then a few drills in appropriate faces- places.

 '''Alec''': So kind of how I took a Sonic, and make him yellow, and gave him a goatee and glasses, and a Buddha belly, and thus was born Asperchu. And, it was- you thought it was a parody, but it just happened to be... that kinda what you're going with, for there? I mean, why didn't you just say that to Evan in the first place, 'cause he has been e-mailing you for a long time 

 '''Chris''': I-I told him- I responded- I told him that in response- in response to why those messages in the mailbag, but apparently, he had not read that.

 '''Alec''': Okay, uhm... let's see, I'm looking at the Simonla at your CWCipedia here, um, you say that... I'll just read what it says here: About, on or before August 26, 2008, I received and e-mail from Evan George, uhh... submitting his Sonichu fan-art to me, then later submitted his idea for Simonchu, it did not strike as good at first but for a few months, I wanted to create a ground type, um... so from Simonchu, I created Simonla Rosechu. That's on the Simonla article for your Cwcipedia. I mean that's, smoking gun, Chris, that's proof, that you used Simonchu as a base.

 '''Chris''': [Groans]

 '''Alec''': I'm... y'know I'm not trying to attack you with this but I really think this is Evan's, that you should get rid of Simonchu and Simonla, write 'em out. 'Cause the facts are right there Chris.

 '''Chris''': Well, actually it was not like that, I typed it in because Evan was badgering me as such, and it just stuck in my head, and pretty much stuck... when I typed it in originally. 

 '''Alec''': Why would that just stick in your head, why would that happen? Why would it stick in your head, unless it's true?

 '''Chris''': [Trying to think of an excuse]I put it in there to make a mockery out of him!

 '''Alec''': Well, then you kind of... kind of lied about it to people, didn't you? I mean, 'cause everyone else thinks that's the honest truth

 '''Chris''': Well, I can stick- well I can change that in [indistinct].

 '''Alec''': Doesn't matter, you already established it. I mean, when it comes to, like, copyright, and that sort of thing, Chris, I mean, the one thing that matters more that anything else is documentation, and history. And all of your documentation shows that you used Simonchu as inspiration. You acknowledge lega liability here. Whether it was a joke or not, you wrote it like it was real. And Evan's been pester-

 '''Chris''': [Chris lets out a big sigh]

 '''Alec''': ...ing me to talk to you, 'cause apparently you're ignoring his e-mails... although you ignore my e-mails too. I mean, like I said, it was a pain just to get a hold of you. I mean, for a guy who has so much to say to me, you are hard to get a hold of.

 '''Chris''': Hmm.

 '''Alec''': I mean, you, you, I'm just I wanna let you know, you do need to comply with Evan's demands, 'cause he's talking about litigation, and that if he want to get a lawyer over this. He said that he'd, that he'd back off if you acknowledge, in the comic and write Simonchu and Simonla out, and y'know, say that they will be done and gone forever. He has the copyright for Simonchu. I mean, would you be willing to do that? Write 'em out? 

 '''Chris''': I'll con- I'll think about it.

 '''Alec''': Okay, well don't think too long. I mean, this is a serious issue.

 '''Chris''': [Sigh]

 '''Alec''': I'm just- I'm just trying to give you advice, Chris.

 '''Chris''': Yeah-

 '''Alec''': I don't wanna see litigation out of this.

 '''Chris''': Hmm... anyway I'm feeling tired right now.

 '''Alec''': Okay well, I'll let you go, um... you have a good night, Chris.

 '''Chris''': Alright, goodnight.

 '''Alec''': Goodnight.

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==External Links==

*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGB99JTZJes The Call on Youtube]

[[Category:Phone calls]]

Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 1

2010-02-11T04:10:55Z

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'''Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 1''' is the first call between [[Chris]] and [[Asperchu|Alec]], which took place on 22 January 2010.

==Summary==

Chris and Alec discuss the size and location of [[Asperpedia]] advertisements on the [[CWCipedia]]. Chris tries to dictate the content of Alec's [[Asperchu]] comics by telling him to tone down the amount of violence in the series. He also goes on to tell Alec to rename Asperchu's versions of the Chaotic Combo characters to the names seen in Sonichu 10.

Alec questions how Chris can hold a copyright on [[Sonichu]] when Sonichu is in fact a [[Pokemon]], a derivative of another creator's copyrighted work, after which Chris jumps to change the subject to avoid admitting that Alec has a point. (Chris similarly avoids or ignores the obvious truth about his "original" characters in other conversations with Alec.) Alec also confronts Chris's ill-will towards Asperchu and Alec himself by bringing up the pages of [[Sonichu 10]] where Chris drew his super-form breaking into Alec's house and destroying his website and computer. Chris retaliates by saying that Alec's killing of his fictional characters in Asperchu justifies his fantasies of committing destruction of property and theft. Chris becomes increasingly [[stress|stressed out]] as the call goes on and eventually hangs up on Alec with a quick goodbye.

==Video==

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===Transcript===

 '''Alec''': Hi, is this... is this, uh, Christian Weston Chandler?

 '''Chris''': Yeah, this is Christian, may I help you?

 '''Alec''': Hi Chris, um... this is Alec Benson Leary. Is it-Is it okay if we talk?

 '''Chris''': Oh yes. Uh... Sure. yes. So uh...

 '''Alec''': Good. Well, uh, there's a couple of things I wanted to talk about tonight. Um, first of all, uh... Well I understand you've got... you've got a problem with the ads that are on [[CWCipedia]]? Can you... Can you tell me a little more about um... I kinda want to have, you know, get a compromise and settle this 'cause... 'cause I don't... I don't want anybody to be angry.

 '''Chris''': Okay yeah. I'll let you have your ads on the Cwcipedia but don't make them too big, and uh, leave 'em in the side bar.

 '''Alec''': Okay... um...

 '''Chris''': (interrupts) I don't want-I don't want-I do not want them in-I do not want them c... c... covering over... the introductory box or any-or anything else where I have to scroll down even to edit the pages. Or even to log in.

 '''Alec''': Okay, um. Well I understand

 '''Chris''': So- so Okay cool. Just keep your ads on the sidebar.

 '''Alec''': Yeah my friend [[Asperchu|Mao]], he um, he actually makes the ads for me. I didn't make them myself but I can try to talk to him about that. About the size.

 '''Chris''': Okay. Alright.

 '''Alec''': As for like, where on the CWCipedia, they are, I don't know if Mao controls that or not, I don't think he does. I think... I'm not sure what controls like where the adspace goes, you know. I mean, I'll talk to Mao about it but I'm not sure if he controls that either.

 '''Chris''': Yeah. Okay

 '''Alec''': Yeah like, I can talk to him. But you might want to talk to your web manager or whatever, Cuz they set up the way the adspace goes, you know?

 '''Chris''': Yeah, and also, just uh, just one more concern of mine upon- uh, yeah, I've uh, read your pages on the Asperchu comic. But the-and the recent pages, what do you think you're doing- what do you think you- what do you think you're parodying, [[Wikipedia:Happy Tree Friends|Happy Tree Friends]]?

 '''Alec''': Um... What's happy tree friends? What's that? 

 '''Chris''': [''Sighs''] It's supposed to be like a happy TV-Y show, but it's actually- it's actually adult dark humor because they go into cut-slashing all the cute characters up and uh, it's- well all the blood and gore and everything, and yet they make them come- they make them come back to life unharmed in the very next episode, just to slice and dice em up again.

 '''Alec''': Oh. Um, I've actually never heard of that series. What is, is that on cartoon network or...

 '''Chris''': [''Talking over Alec''] ye- yeah... no you can look it up on netflix.

 '''Alec''': Oh.

 '''Chris''': Yeah that's a good place. But anyway, blood and gore. Yeah, that's not a good way to go, especially when you killed, even- even considerable facsimiles of my own characters in that sense, and in that detail.

 '''Alec''': Well you know, um, I actually- I got a lot of uh, actually positive response from my fans when I did that. Because you know, some of my fans [''trails off as Chris interrupts.'']

 '''Chris''': Yeah, yeah, that's another thing. Yeah that's another thing. Encourage the fans that were originally my fans to come back to me. I would appreciate that.

 '''Alec''': Uh, Well I, I mean, you know I tell my fans all about you all the time Chris, because, you know, like I've told you in a lot of the letters I've written to you you were a big inspiration to me. You know, I don't really know what to say to my fans as far as that goes. They uh, they love my comic. I get a lot, I get a '''lot''' of fanmail about it.

 '''Chris''': Yeah, okay. Umm okay how about this, uh, just to make it equal, um, put an advertisement for the CWCipedia on uh, on the Asperpedia. About as much as the Asperpedia ads are on my CWCipeida.

 '''Alec''': Um, well um yeah, we might be able to work something out, you know, you'd probably want to contact Mao, cuz he's my manager he does all the grunt work on Asperpedia. Um, I'm not even sure what how selling the adspace works but I'm sure he'd be willing to sell you some adspace on Asperpedia we could definitely try to work something like that out.

 '''Chris''': So basically... alright well, alright well Mao and I can talk through E-mail.

 '''Alec''': Yeah, yeah. Yeah cuz, you can- I mean, like I said I don't know the details but I know adspace is up for purchase so...

 '''Chris''': Yeah. Alright. Then we got settled on at least on, your ads on my CWCipedia. And yeah, ease up on the- not so much blood and gore. And try to uh, bring my fans, uh, redirect my fans back to me.

 '''Alec''': Um... well you know uh... I'm trying to think of a good way to say this, but you know, we are in kind of a friendly competition if you will. You know we, we're both [[Chris and Art|artists]], kind of. I mean, it doesn't really make sense for an artist to say to his fans, "Hey guys, don't follow me anymore, go back to this other artist". I mean, would you do that for your fans? Would you say "Hey fans, go talk to Alec" or "go watch Alec's cartoon" or anyone else's cartoon I mean really? No you want the fans to follow you.

 '''Chris''': Um. Okay, um. Okay yeah I can understand that um, okay, um.

 '''Alec''': Yeah, Mm-hmm.

 '''Chris''': Well since, well since you and I are on- are on okay agreeing mutual- okay talking tones right now.

 '''Alec''': Mmm-hmm?

 '''Chris''': How about I, uh, How about I just remove all the bad talk I have against you, and then start saying that, start saying that you're okay, that your comic is okay, that and uh, you know, but still saying that your, like you know I would appreciate it if you would stay being my fans, but if you want to go look at his work, that's fine I can't stop you there, but you know.

 '''Alec''': Well actually, I'm glad that you're bringing this up because, um, I do say we're on friendly terms and I'd like to keep it that way because, you know, I got my start because of you, um, but to be honest, I want to be honest and frank with you.

 '''Chris''': Mm. Mm.

 '''Alec''': Um, you made a couple of videos. And I don't watch all your videos but I do try to keep up, I mean I spend a lot of time drawing the comics, so I don't have a lot of time to watch videos anymore but um, I saw a couple of [[Asperchu is a Horrendous Joke|videos]] where you, uh, you actually threatened me with uh, physical...

 '''Chris''': [''Chris interrupts''] Umm, yeah. Okay well...

 '''Alec''': [''Trying to talk''] Yeah that didn't make me [''unintelligible'']

 '''Chris''': [''Talking over Alec''] I was uh, I was, well I was more angry back then because it was an immediate, uh, response, but now things have settled down and we're talking, I can-I can make a new video saying like, you know, I apologize for those threats, and uh, that things are okay here.

 '''Alec''': Okay and, and about you um-also the video where you...you wanted [[Patti Chandler|your dog]] to eat me, or something like that, you-your dog to eat my soul, I mean that-well the [[death threats]] were kind of scary to begin with, but that, that was just a [''unintelligible'']

 '''Chris''': Okay yeah, well I'll take-I'll take that back as well, I'm sorry.

 '''Alec''': And, and um, that kind of leads me into another point, um you, you're under the impression that I was, that I was besmirching your dog in my comic, and I'm not really sure what you mean by that. Could you explain to me?

 '''Chris''': Okay well, the villain, the dog in your comic, it looks-it looks similar to my dog, especially around the green neckerchief and the other parts that are green on that dog. And the, and the shape of the dog, just looked like my dog.

 '''Alec''': Well it's just a-a lot of dogs look like that, Chris, I mean a lot of..it-it's just a neckerchief, I mean it's just a little flair for the dog. That doesn't mean it's your dog.

 '''Chris''': Yeah.

 '''Alec''': I think honestly you make that assumption with a lot of my characters, it seems like you think that a lot of my characters were you know, like ripping off your characters, or even you yourself, because you said that Asperchu was...

 '''Chris''': Yeah, [[Obesity|Buddha belly]] and the [[Muscle bra|manboobs]], the [[Pedo-Glasses|glasses]]...

 '''Alec''': Well I mean, Chris, you're...

 '''Chris''': Oh, and the [[Love quest|sweetheart search]] thing and the [[Crystal Weston Chandler|future daughter]].

 '''Alec''': Well I mean, Asperchu's not a [[parody]], Chris, I mean he's an original creation.

 '''Chris''': Okay.

 '''Alec''': You know just because he has the glasses, the Buddha belly, and the-and the manboobs, and the goatee, you know, that doesn't make him a parody, I mean that's...And besides you said you had the [[McDonald's|fast food]], I mean, how could it be a parody of you if, if your belly is [''unintelligible due to Chris talking over him'']

 '''Chris''': If I-if I, you, you mean if I [[Lie|currently do not have the Buddha belly]].

 '''Alec''': Well, exactly, so Asperchu can't be a parody of you, right?

 '''Chris''': Okay. Well...

 '''Alec''': I mean, doesn't that-that makes sense to me, doesn't that make sense to you?

 '''Chris''': Okay, I s-yeah, that's fine.

 '''Alec''': I mean, it's just a little-it seems-it seems a little [[naïve]] to think that Asperchu and everything are parodies of your char-I mean, I do include some of your characters in the comic, and those-those-my original characters are purely original. Asperchu...nothing about Asperchu is a parody. [''Chris tries to interrupt, but Alec continues.''] And actually-actually, I'd kind of like you to issue your retraction video to, to um, let everyone know that Asperchu is original and is not a parody in any way. Or if there are-oh, and, and you did mention that I don't have a disclaimer on my comics, but uh, that made me think I should create a disclaimer and so I did, so if there are any elements that look parodic, I'm covered.

 '''Chris''': Yeah, okay, yeah. And also, yeah, you definitely do reference my [[Sonichu]] and my [[CWCville]] and especially the [[Chaotic Combo]] recently.

 '''Alec''': Well as you said those weren't yours, you said those were copies. You said those were just, you know, copies of...

 '''Chris''': Y-y-y-your versions are just recreational-recreation-recreated facsimiles. Okay so let's agree to that...

 '''Alec''': [''Trying to speak''] Can I ask-can I ask you something about the Chaotic Combo and Sonichu? Yeah, those were just facsimiles, those weren't really yours...

 '''Chris''': No they were-no, they were all mine-actually they were all mine. They were all-they were originally mine.

 '''Alec''': But, the ones that I drew, were those facsimiles or are those not?

 '''Chris''': Uhh...okay well...

 '''Alec''': Because you, in your comic, you came and you took them away, in your-in your recent pages of your comic. I mean you said in-you said in the comics that those were mine, but, you know, so they must be original, right? [''Chris tries to interrupt, but Alec continues.''] You said in the comic they weren't the Chaotic Combo, so they must be original. But then you came and took them. I-I don't get that, and you renamed them and re-restyled them.

 '''Chris''': [''finally manages to break in''] Listen, listen, okay. The Chaotic Combo, in my comics, appeared before Book number 10, and originated in CWCville, Virginia, not in Minnesota, those are originally mine. But the ones that you re-drew and then made them different from how they originally were, in my comic, then that's definitely-that's totally fax-facsimiles...

 '''Alec''': Mine? Then, why did you take them?

 '''Chris''': Okay, well I mean-okay number one-

 '''Alec''': And not just the Combo, you tried to retake my Asperchu. And Asperchu wasn't, you know, a copy of anything. You-you renamed him [[Mitch Sonichu]]. I mean, Asperchu's mine. You-I don't really appreciate that.

 '''Chris''': Hm.

 '''Alec''': You know, you accuse me of thievery, but then you go and take-and try to take my Asperchu.

 '''Chris''': Okay well you did-you did take my Sonichu, and you did claim him to be the original one, and you did claim orig-you did make it obvious in your comics where he was the original one, from the city of CWCville, and even worse you made him brother to Asperchu, and uh, with the homosexual tendencies and whatnot, even when you drew the Chaotic Combo you made [[Wild]] a [[Homos|homosexual]] even when he is not.

 '''Alec''': Well, but Wild's not yours, what does it matter if, if my Wild's gay? I thought there was-I thought there was depth to the character, I was just trying to give them a little personality. And the homosexual references, okay this is something that came up before...

 '''Chris''': Okay well listen, okay well aside from the [''unintelligible''] Sonichu-

 '''Alec''': Asperchu has a girlfriend, Dixie Chu.

 '''Chris''': No actually, I read further in the book and Dixie Chu dumped his ass.

 '''Alec''': She doesn't-she doesn't-she doesn't-no, she doesn't mean that, she doesn't mean that. They're, they're destined to be together, Chris, I mean, can't you see those undertones? I mean that's-that's where this whole comic is going. And besides, he's shown he's straight, I mean even if a girl does dump him, what does it matter? He went after a girl. He didn't go after a boy. Like you said, Sonichu is his brother, why would he...you know, even if he was gay why would he go for his brother? That's just-that's just sick.

 '''Chris''': [''sigh''] Yeah, I mean anyway-okay well listen, how about this, in your comics, when you, uh, in the future, or in re-or re-referencing the past pages, the Sonichu that is Asperchu's brother, you just refer to him as Michael, and the Wild you'd refer to him as Bobby, and the [[Angelica]] Trisha, et cetera, just like I said in my pages. And Mitch can be Asperchu's nickname.

 '''Alec''': But Chris, those aren't really their characters' names. I mean, Bobby and Mitch and-and, I forget the other names, I think you renamed [[Bubbles]] "Kitty" or something like that, I mean those aren't, those aren't their names.

 '''Chris''': Okay but, okay but you see when I gave the Chaotic Combo characters those names, originally, in my books, those would be their nick-those would be their nicknames, just, I mean-they're all Sonichus and Rosechus individually, but they're just different types, like uh, without the nickname, Wild, he would be Grass Sonichu, Bubbles would be Water Rosechu, Flying Rosechu, [[Punchy|Fighting Sonichu]], [[Magi-chan|Psychic Sonichu]]...

 '''Alec''': Okay, I understand what you're saying, but well see there's one of the differences, though, because in my comic, those are really their names, I mean, you know, Angelica, Punchy, Bubbles, Magi-chan...

 '''Chris''': No no, you see, but those are actually their names in MY book. In my book.

 '''Alec''': Their nicknames, you said. In my comic they're their actual names. That's the difference.

 '''Chris''': No, I'm talking in reference to the [[Pokemon]] game, you know, if you wanted to na-if you wanted to give-if you wanted to name your Bulbasaur, they call it giving it a nickname, but really it's just giving them their NAME. So, therefore, the grass Sonichu in my book is Wild, the water Rosechu in my books are Bubbles, et cetera, et cetera, so-

 '''Alec''': You know, Chris-

 '''Chris''': It would work better if you just take the nickna-the uh, names I suggested for your variations of those characters and just reference to them as such.

 '''Alec''': Chris, um, my characters aren't Pokemon, I don't draw Pokemon, that's not how it works in my comic.

 '''Chris''': Y-yeah you have been drawing Pokemon, Sonichu is an electric hedgehog Pokemon.

 '''Alec''': I thought he was a Sonichu, I mean-

 '''Chris''': Sonichu is an electric hedgehog Pokemon. If you read back in my Book Number Zero, I make it perfectly clear that Sonichu and Rosechu are electric hedgehog Pokemon.

 '''Alec''': Um, oh, okay. Well, I think the point of confusion there is, um, where their-like, I've never seen any Poke Balls in your comic, or trainers, or any of those other Pokemon elements, you know? Like, shouldn't they live in Poke Balls?

 '''Chris''': Yes, there's a Poke Ball that specially catches Sonichus and Rosechus called the S-Chu Ball, and there is a reference to that within the book, the crystals were the [[Sonichu Ball]] crystals, before I renamed them Chaotic Crystals, and we do have a train-we have two trainers. Naitsirhc was a Pokemon trainer, he had a Zapdos, he had a red Gyarados, he had a Mewtwo...

 '''Alec''': But Chris, those are-those are like Zapdos, and Mewtwo, and Gyarados, I mean does anyone-Sonichu lives in a house, doesn't he, I mean he lives like a person-

 '''Chris''': Yeah, yeah, okay well you see, he was originally a wild Pokemon in the original Sonichu, but the original Rosechu was originally a Raichu that was caught and trained by the Pokemon trainer Kellie, [[Kel]] for short.

 '''Alec''': But, they live on their own now, I mean when they became Sonichu and Rosechu, they're-they're people, right? I mean they live like people, they have jobs like people, Sonichu has a job doesn't he? I mean, what does he do?

 '''Chris''': Yeah well you see, in that case, Kel wanted to move on with her Pokemon trainer career, but Rosechu and Sonichu wanted to live happy, individual lives, so upon realizing that, Kel just let them go, just like Ash released his Butterfree so he can go mate with the pink Butterfree.

 '''Alec''': Oh. Well I uh, I actually didn't know any of that. But I di-I digress, um, the point is-the point is that Asperchu and my version of the Chaotic Combo, all those characters, those are not Pokemon in my comics, I mean, Pokemon don't exist in the world of Asperchu. Because, you see, like Asperchu, he lives in his grandparent's house, he is a person.

 '''Chris''': Hm. Yeah, okay well my-

 '''Alec''': [[''overlapping'']] My Sonichu is a person, my Chaotic Combo are people...

 '''Chris''': Okay well, okay, alright, but that still makes it sound like my characters when you talk about THE Sonichu from Cwcville...

 '''Alec''': They're not your characters, we've established that. They're not yours, I mean, they're my characters. [[''Trying to talk over Chris'']] Original. My comic is not a parody.

 '''Chris''': Okay, Sonichu and Rosechu, I actually have paper-registered copyrights on those so I COULD sue you, but I'm trying to resolve this peacefully.

 '''Alec''': You have-okay, so you have the copyright-

 '''Chris''': Yeah, look under the copyright section of the-on the CWCipedia. It actually has the scan of the paper from the Virginia Library of Congress as well as the envelope it came in.

 '''Alec''': You have a copyright of Sonichu.

 '''Chris''': Yes.

 '''Alec''': But you said Sonichu's a Pokemon, right, I mean I'm pretty sure Nintendo has the copyright claim to Pokemon.

 '''Chris''': Still, it's Sonichu.

 '''Alec''': I mean, I might just wanna contact Nintendo just to make sure everything's okay, to make sure I'm not stepping on their toes.

 '''Chris''': They have been contacted before, and everything's okay, you don't need to do that.

 '''Alec''': But, I mean, well then, how can you hold the copyright to a Pokemon-

 '''Chris''': The Virginia Library of Congress has allowed me-

 '''Alec''': Well, the Virginia Library of Congress, you know, can't tell Nintendo what to do, they can't tell Nintendo to just hand over copyrights to their creations, to just anybody. I mean, you know, Nintendo could take the Virginia Library of Congress to court and say, hey wait a minute, you know, you issued this copyright illegally.

 '''Chris''': [[''Massive Stress Sigh.'']]

 '''Alec''': It's just the Library of Congress.

 '''Chris''':[[''mumbling unintelligibly'']] Okay look, let's just agree to uh, this is-what we're talking about right now just seems pointless to what we were originally talking about. Let's just agree that,uh-

 '''Alec''': I don't think it's pointless, I mean I'm just trying to establish the...I mean you said you could sue me, I don't want to, you know, just let that go, I mean I don't want to get sued, nobody wants to get sued. I just don't understand how you could sue me-that's what I'm confused on, I mean, you're confusing me, Chris. I mean, call me naïve, but this is-I just don't get exactly what you're getting at.

 '''Chris''': Okay well-okay yeah, I'm trying to prevent from having to go into the legal issues as well, so-

 '''Alec''': Well I appreciate that, but I just don't understand how you have a legal ground to sue me, I mean, because Pokemon-

 '''Chris''': -because I-because I do hold the copyright to Sonichu.

 '''Alec''': But Sonichu's a Pokemon.

 '''Chris''': [[''Flustered'']] Look, let's just rewind, can we-can we-let's just rewind and go back to what we agreed on before, you know re-uh-readjusting the advertisement signs and uh, giving me, a possible CWCipedia ad on the Asperpedia, and, we just-let the Sonichu in your book be known as-be known as Michael Sonichu, as well as the other Sonichus and Rosechus of the Chaotic Combo, of my Chaotic Combo, let's just rename them the names I suggested in my book-

 '''Alec''':Umm.

 '''Chris''': In your book.

 '''Alec''': Alright, like I said I'll talk to Mao about the ads; as far as the renaming goes, if you're-I guess you can make up some characters, Mike Sonichu, Mitch Sonichu and whatever, that's your comic book, if you want to create those characters that's fine. I mean, like I said I'm not going to rename my characters.

 '''Chris''': [[''Sigh.'']]

 '''Alec''': And-and you know now that you bring this back to the table, another thing that kind of vexed me in your comic was that you as a, you as uh, [[Collosal Chan]]-was it Collosal Chan or Collosal Chu? I don't recall-

 '''Chris''': It is Collosal-it is Collosal Chris-chan, that'd be me in my super form after releasing the seven Chaotic Crystals, or the Sonichu Ball Crystals as they are also known as.

 '''Alec''': Okay. So Collosal Chris-chan and uh, Sonichu, and he was in his [[Ultra Sonichu|ultra form]], I think-you two came to, well first of all you saw the drawing of Asperchu's house and you mistook that as my house. Just to clarify, that's not my house, I made up that house, that-that came out of nowhere, I just decided hey, you know, a big dull-looking happy house, that'd be funny as Asperchu's home, but, but anyway, you thought it was my house and you came to what you thought was my house and you broke into my house and after breaking and entering-which is a crime, by the way-you proceeded to hack into my computer, and I think you deleted the entire Asperpedia website, and then you deleted all my files of Asperchu comics and everything else, and then I think you stole some [[Dating education|dating program]] or something that you thought was on my-I, I mean this is a multitude of crimes, Chris, that was criminal intent. I mean, why did you do that, you know, those are illegal acts.

 '''Chris''': [[''Another sigh.'']]

 '''Alec''': You know, I mean, that's not a nice thing to do.

 '''Chris''': [[''Defensively'']] Yeah, well it wasn't very nice taking the Sonichu that was originally from CWCville and then claiming him to be Asperchu's brother.

 '''Alec''': Chris, I didn't show Asperchu breaking into Sonichu's house and destroying valuable documents on his computer. I mean this comic is going to be my lifeblood, this is my franchise, this is my multimedia empire I'm trying to build here, and you just destroyed it on a whim. I mean, why did you do that? I-I just don't get that. Asperchu ne-Asperchu has been nice to Sonichu since they've met, they've been friends and they've treated each other like brothers, and they fought battles side by side. I mean haven't you ever had a website hacked before? I have, it sucks, you know, do you know what it feels like to have your videos and computer hacked?

 '''Chris''': I-I have, truly I have, and it was not very nice; I had the original Sonichu site, which was [[CWC's Sonichu Site]] simply, originally on the Tripod web server, hacked into by one [[Clyde Cash]].

 '''Alec''': Well then you know how much it sucks, why would you do it to another person? I mean it's one thing if it never happened to you, if it never happened to you it's still bad but you can claim ignorance, but, but you-it happened to you, and then you turned around and did it to me. I mean, why the double standard, Chris, why is it okay to hack into my computer and destroy my files?

 '''Chris''': [[''Groans, then sighs''.]] Okay I'm gonna go ahead and- cause you gave me permission to call you, and I'm going to call you, naï- [static cuts off Chris before he completes the word 'naïve']

 '''Alec''': Chris, you're cutting off.

 '''Chris''': Because I have-I have tried to explain to you as clearly as possible, in my own best words I could come up with, that I'm getting tired of this long, drawn-out conversation, that obviously you're just too naïve to understand! Think about it! Think long and hard-read all my comic pages, from book number zero to the last-to the current page-

 '''Alec''': ...help me understand why you threatened me in videos and-and drew yourself breaking into my house and committing multiple felonies. That's what I'm asking an explanation for, I mean the ads, and the naming issue, we settled that, this is a new issue and I'm trying to talk it out with you.

 '''Chris''': Okay, yeah okay, well you referenced the Sonichu in your book to be the one from CWCville, and then making him, without my permission, Asperchu's brother. And then without my permission, you took the-you recreated the Chaotic Combo, and then reformatted their personalities in more ways than one, without my permission! And then you go kill-and then you go kill off with blood and gore detail, and then your recreation of Angelica-the flyer, the grass, and the fighter, who are also known as Angelica, Wild, and Punchy! How do you think I feel about that, how would you like it if I went into blood and gory detail of slicing and dicing Jonas Chu, that green one, [''Alec tries to interrupt''] Jivin, and Max? I'm sorry, what?

 '''Alec''': Oh, I just said the green one is, is Peter Chu. Um, okay, I understand why you're angry, but didn't we already establish that the characters I drew are not related to your Chaotic Combo? I mean, in your [[mailbag]], I've seen a lot of people have written to you about the Chaotic Combo, and, you know, other Asperchu similarities and things like that, and your response, almost always, is Alec Benson Leary and Asperchu have no relation to you whatsoever-

 '''Chris''': [''sigh''] In reference to the business, as in like, you know, I actually never originally gave you or Mao permission to put the ads on the CWCipedia in the first place, especially in such large proportions where I had to scroll down to even edit the page or even to log in. But I never even gave you permission to put the ads in the introductory box, which is a felony that [[Jack Thaddeus]] has violated before-

 '''Alec''': Yeah, yeah that Jack guy, that's the name of the guy I know that Mao bought the adspace from. He told me. But um, as I understand the way the ads work is you know, if a website hosts, you know, public adspace that can be purchased for advertising, anybody can buy the rights to advertise.

 '''Chris''': Yeah, I get that.

 '''Alec''': Yeah, so I mean, how is that illegal that I purchased the adspace? And you said it was illegal, you said it was wrongful a number of times, I know you've used that word-

 '''Chris''': Yeah. Because I was not in the loop about this...

 '''Alec''': Well, that's between you and your web manager. You should be in the loop about it, I agree about that, you should be in the loop about it. But I can't be held responsible if you didn't get that information from your webmaster.

 '''Chris''': [''Sigh.''] Alright, well listen, the battery power on my phone is running low, perhaps we could talk again another time. You take care-you take care, stay safe, bye now.

 '''Alec''': I'd like to talk-[Cuts off.]

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==External Links==

*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNQNdjFES7o The Call on Youtube]

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