CWCki - User contributions [en]

Chris and the law

2025-05-11T23:13:04Z

Thnxbb: Added artwork

:''This article is about Chris's criminal offenses. For the Warrant in Debt civil offenses, see [[Debt]]. For Chris's personal views on legislation, see [[Chris and politics]].''

{{DeadLinks}}
{{Articleofthenow}}

{{quote|...I was about to be handcuffed, but I would not have another handcuffing, so I fought, I was pinned, and I was handcuffed.|Chris describing a typical skirmish with authorities.<ref name=kick>[[28 October 2011#Email?]].</ref>}}

{{quote|I foreknew and foresaw that I was gonna end up in jail anyway. It was just popular in most of the other timelines.|Chris while awaiting legal proceedings on his [[incest]] charge.<ref>[[Jail Call - 1 November 2021]]</ref>}}

[[Image:116-CWCCop.jpg|thumb|Chris always keeps a watchful eye out for criminal scum who would dare [[Chris and hypocrisy|steal his already-stolen characters]].]]

'''Laws''' are a set of formal rules established by a society, generally to protect its members and ensure the orderly function of society. Their observance is usually maintained by [[Jerkop|law enforcement]], and penalties are placed on those who disobey the laws.

For [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]], however, these just serve as another deterrent in his endless [[Love Quest|quest]] for [[china]] and a weapon with which to threaten his real and supposed [[trolls|enemies]].

As of 2018, Chris has seven misdemeanors – three from [[28 October 2011|hitting Michael Snyder with his car]], one from [[26 December 2014|macing the Yellow-Shirted Foe]], two from failing to acquire proper tags for [[Snoopy and Clover]] and one for trespassing after being banned from [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]] – which resulted in him being placed on the [[Therapeutic Docket]].

Virginia has a {{w|three-strikes law}} – which usually means that if someone is brought in a third time for a felony or misdemeanor, the sentence if found guilty is more severe than usual (in some states, the sentence is life in prison). The specifics of a three-strikes law vary by state, with some states having several such laws. Seeing as how Chris has never been sentenced to jail time despite several misdemeanors, he may not fall under the scope of the Virginia law. However, since the state law seems to say that third-time ''violent'' offenders will receive harsher sentencing (and Chris appears to have two – hitting Snyder and pepper-spraying a manager), this could come into play if Chris ever finds himself facing charges for a third violent offense (which, it should be noted, he is currently not as of 2022 – he has been charged with [[Affair with Mother|incest]], not rape).

Ironically, in Chris's birth year of 1982, Virginia passed a law that would protect citizens from dangerous repeat offenders. Unfortunately, they could not protect [[Michael Snyder]] from being hit by a car, the [[Yellow-Shirted Foe]] from being pepper-sprayed, countless innocent women from being stalked and harassed, and [[Barbara Chandler]] from being fucked by her own son.

Ironically enough, Chris's paternal grandfather's occupation is given as a security guard according to his death certificate <ref name=RobertSr>https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9P2-BH61-Q?cc=1584959</ref>

==Understanding==
{{quote|I have been giving him reasons since the [[Jerkop|police]] came in June of [[2008]], and nothing has sunken into that [[Hello, Juffalo|clown head]] of his.|[[Michael Snyder]]<ref><s>[http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=6odVsyr3I40]</s> (the video is fine, but that comment is no longer present as of Jun 2014)</ref>}}

[[Image:Impliedshooting.jpg|thumb|left|Violence is [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|Comic Chris]]'s usual solution to law enforcement.]]

Like his grip on [[Chris and reality|reality]], Chris's understanding of the law is tenuous at best, and dangerously [[naïve]] at worst. Chris legitimately believes trolling is illegal. He regularly threatens internet [[trolls]] with legal action and makes no distinction in severity between a troll [[Ivy Q&A|threatening violence]] against Chris and a troll uploading a harmless picture of [[Rosechu]] with a [[pickle]] to the Internet. Chris himself is prone to making [[I'LL BREAK YOU DEAD|extremely violent threats]], such as [[Sign Destruction Video|threatening to murder]] [[Vivian Gee]] and her entire family because of her creating the [[audiobooks]]. He's done everything from calling the police to convincing his father to write to then-President [[George W. Bush]] in an attempt to get rid of his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page. He has even poorly attempted to impersonate the President in a hilarious attempt to convince the trolls at ED to take down his page,<ref><s>http://encyclopediadramatica.rs/index.php?title=Chris-chan&diff=prev&oldid=1997405266</s> (dead link as of Jun. 2014)</ref> and has attempted to contact the former President, [[Barack Obama]], to stop people from posting gay ads on the CWCipedia. Chris also believes that the laws in [[CWCville]] and the laws stated in ''[[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]]'' should be enforced ''in real life''.<ref>[[Mailbag 55#Draconian fun!]]</ref>

Chris himself doesn't have much respect for laws and rules, particularly when [[Chris and hypocrisy|their enforcement inconveniences him]]. During his time at [[Target]], he saw nothing wrong with exploiting the free refill policy and loitering for hours at a time in a privately-owned establishment while harassing female customers and apparently [[Attraction Sign|soliciting hanky-panky]]. Chris often remarks that his [[Virgin with rage|emotional state]] entirely justifies his actions, stating in [[Vivitheg's AIM chat]] that he should be excused for disturbing the peace by literally screaming "NOOOOOOO!" loudly in the middle of a crowded mall.<ref>[[Sonichu 1#Sub-Episode 2: Christian Chandler in "The Rise & Fall of My Heart"]]</ref>

Self-contradictory as ever, though, Chris's disregard of many laws does not stop him from rigidly observing others, often with completely skewed priority: In [[Sonichu Special 4]], his cartoon avatar makes a point of obeying the speed limit – while on his way to confront [[Liquid Chris]] and assault him with a [[Megatron pistol|deadly weapon]]. In a [[May 2010]] video, Chris states that he believes a man who brutally beat his girlfriend to death with his bare hands deserved twenty years in prison for his crimes, which is just twice the penalty he wants for [[Tobacky|smoking one cigarette]].<ref>[[05142010]]</ref>

Also, Chris has very little respect for those who enforce the law:

{{quote|Verbal Combat had started, and during the fight, I ran off, still giving verbal punishment, as well as da finger, and many “[[Curse-Ye-Ha-Me-Ha]]s.” I nearly backed up onto him with my car, and I gave him another finger. Then I dashed off.|Excerpt from Chris's [[CWC's Diary|diary]]}}

The above quote pretty much defines Chris's attitude towards law enforcement officials. He feels that it is completely appropriate to flip off, insult, and [[List of Chris's lies|lie]] to people who are simply doing their jobs. And, of course, as any rational person would understand, running away from law enforcement officials is a seriously bad idea. Chris is truly a rebel without a cause (or effect).

The correspondence with Jackie revealed that in the hearings on the Target incident, Chris thought that his work with the [[The GAMe PLACe#Chris the TCG gamer|Pokémon TCG League]] let him off the hook.<ref>[[Jackie e-mails Part 2#Chris lies about The Game Place]]</ref> In reality, the court probably acquitted him either on a technicality or insufficient evidence. Chris probably mentioned the volunteer work because he believed a person's merits, no matter how unrelated, would automatically make one innocent of all charges. It is also telling that he recounted the charge as "Soliciting," whereas the actual charge was "Disorderly Conduct"; he feels that he was only persecuted because of his [[Love Quest]] efforts, and not because he was tard raging.

Of interesting note, is that contrary to Chris's [[Women's rights|general]] [[Homos|political]] [[Niggos|views]], he seems to be in favor – or at least accepting – of gun control legislation.<ref>[[A Public Announcement for Congress]]</ref> Whether or not he has a firm understanding of what he's saying, we'll likely never know.

Interestingly, Chris seems to have a ''very'' skewed view of the idea of "self-defense," which is exemplified with the acquisition of pepper spray. Pepper spray, like most defensive weapons, should be used as a last resort, to keep people from attacking you. As seen with the [[26 December 2014|GameStop attacks]], Chris uses it as a means to keep anyone he doesn't like away. Using that event as an example, the man he sprayed wasn't even near him and Chris decided to spray a quick spritz on his chest without any provocation. It got worse when, days later, he began a commotion in a [[Walmart]] using the device. To Chris, it's the ultimate troll and [[jerkop]] deterrent, when in actuality, he's waving around assault charges on a stick.

==Timeline==
[[File:Chris chan conspiracy trial.png|thumb|right]]

The following is a list of incidents Chris has had with the law. This list may not be complete; in a telephone conversation with [[Ivy]] in 2009, [[Bob]] told her that Chris had in the past six or seven incidents with the law,<ref>[[Ivy Q&A#The end]]</ref> and yet this article lists only three incidents that precede 2010.

===2004===
On 11 September [[2004]], Chris was detained at [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]] for loitering, and continually arguing with the staff over several months. The incident is depicted in [[Sub-Episode 1]]. Chris was banned from returning to the mall on his own and without his parents' company. However, it appears that this ban was lifted or ignored soon afterward.

===2005===
On 20 July [[2005]], Chris was charged with disorderly conduct<ref name="2005 Disorderly Conduct">[[:File:20050720-GC05009339-00.png|Disorderly conduct charge, 20 July 2005]]</ref> and trespassing<ref name="2005 Trespassing">[[:File:20050720-GC05009340-00.png|Trespassing charge, 20 July 2005]]</ref> at Target, as depicted in [[Sub-Episode 7]] and [[Sub-Episode 8]]. After 2 hearings,<ref name="2005 Disorderly Conduct" /><ref name="2005 Trespassing" /> prosecutors chose to drop the case and Chris was not punished.

5 days later, Chris caused an auto accident when he followed another car too closely and rear-ended it. This went to court on 12 September 2005.<ref name="2005 Following Too Close">[[:File:20050728-GT05011195-00.png|Following too close, 28 July 2005]]</ref> He was fined $30 and had to pay $56 in court costs.

===2010===
Chris's various run-ins at [[The GAMe PLACe]] have resulted in the cops being called on him a couple of times. At least once after Chris called in his parents after he was initially banned from the location and tried to weasel his way back in, and again when he trespassed on the property, though he wasn't charged with anything on either occasion.<ref>[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]</ref>

On 4 [[June 2010]], Chris made yet another pilgrimage to The GAMe PLACe. Chris was armed with his camera, and while Mike was concerned that Chris wanted pictures of his daughter for [[Mass debating|disturbing reasons]], Chris maintains that he merely wanted a picture of Mike [[Death threats|for use as]] [[CWC is Angry|a dartboard]] – still disturbing, but in entirely different ways. Chris was caught in the parking lot despite trying to run away and was questioned by the police, who made him delete the pictures he had taken and told him to quit his shit. Chris made his [[6 June 2010]] video in response to these events.

===2011===
In a [[May 2011]] [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]] post, Chris said that he has begun to use the ladies' restroom at his local mall while dressed in drag; he recounts an incident in which ''"a woman complains and tattles on me, and a [[JERK|stereotypical Brute male]] shouts me out. I felt embarassed. [sic] When in skirt, I am still gonna go to the Ladies, because there is no goin' back for me."'' This supposed brute male may or may not have been with mall security.

In his [[Calling Out|3 new videos]] posted after an 8-month-long hiatus from YouTube he tries to do something which some viewers of ''The Chandler Show'' believe to be blackmail. Chris admitted it by typing word ''blackmail'' in tags for last of them; however, trolls hoping for a lawsuit [[saga]] shouldn't get their hopes up, because it's unlikely any of the trolls threatened by it would want to report him, given that they've all been trying to get him back onto the internet for months and wouldn't want to drive him off again. Not to mention Chris probably doesn't have anything on them at all. Note that under Virginia law, his demands are more likely to be considered extortion (still a class five felony) rather than blackmail.

In the same video, Chris also point-blank accused Mike of molesting his daughter, all while admitting that he doesn't have any concrete proof of his allegation. Given how prone he is to accuse others of slandering him (like pointing out his bad qualities that are extremely evident to everyone but Chris), Chris's accusations are very hypocritical. If Mike did want to sue Chris in civil court, he would indeed have a case against him as Chris's allegations are textbook defamation. However, it's questionable what Snyder would win in litigation, aside from a [[PlayStation 3]] and numerous children's [[toys]].

On [[28 October 2011]], Chris ended up in the worst possible scenario, netting a felony charge and 2 misdemeanors in what appears to be a ''3rd'' attempt to enter the GAMe PLACe, although all charges were reduced to misdemeanors upon sentencing.

As a direct result of his 28 October 2011 run-in with Michael Snyder, Chris had found both himself and [[Barb|his mother]] on the receiving end of a civil suit. Having been sentenced to community service and put under probation, and being charged with paying Snyder's medical bills, this may very well have been the first time that he has felt ramifications for his accusations and threats. However, it is much more likely that he simply [[Chris and his Ego|doesn't care]] or still feels as if he were the [[Kick the Autistic|real victim]] in all of this.

===2012===
[[File:Card.PNG|thumb]]

On 4 [[February 2012]], it was revealed on his [[Facebook]] that Chris no longer has respect for ''any'' sort of law enforcement after the events of 28 October 2011, officially deeming everyone who upholds the law a Jerkop. At the same time, he revealed another encounter with the boys in blue that day. As he attempted to pass out fliers while at the mall, encouraging others to stay away from the GAMe PLACe, two Jerkops (or as Chris puts it, "a Jerkop and an accomplice") approached him. Despite the officers simply wanting to talk to him and letting him know he wasn't in any trouble, Chris's paranoia kicked in and he ran. While the story Chris gives seems to hint that the officers just wanted to tell him to knock off the distribution of fliers, Chris believed otherwise, citing that one of them called out his name and making him think they wanted to post another encounter with him on the Internet. He escaped by diving into a Mitsubishi, most likely replacing the dying piece of scrap that is [[Son-Chu]], and driving off.

On 12 [[April 2012]], Chris [[Virgin with rage#No longer a virgin (No word on the rage)|announced the loss of his virginity]], giving off strong hints that he had slept with a hired prostitute. He all but [[Facebook#Hey.2C_Trollies|confirmed this]] on 1 May, when he said that he "found her on the backpage," most likely meaning that he found it on the website Backpage.com, a Craigslist clone shut down by the FBI that also allowed solicitation of prostitutes – Chris's prostitute was codenamed [[Mia Hamm]], as seen on the website. In the state of Virginia, this constitutes a Class 1 Misdemeanor and is therefore illegal. It is unknown whether or not Chris is aware of this, but it's very likely that if he is, he simply doesn't care.

On 28 April 2012, Chris revealed another incident in the mall. Before his Facebook note on 30 [[March 2012]], Chris got into a shouting match with a troll on his cell phone at the mall. The shouting did not go unnoticed, and Chris bolted once security was called in. On 25 April, Chris received a ban from the mall,<ref>[[Facebook#Maniacal Laughter from Who now? Oh, wait, It Is ME! >8D]]</ref> though it is unknown if it was for that incident or an incident that happened between those two dates.

On 10 [[July 2012]], Chris was arraigned in court for the 28 October 2011 incident. After calling Snyder a "thieving liar" in the courtroom, Chris was sentenced to community service and put under one-year probation. He was also ordered to pay Snyder's medical bills.

===2013===
In September 2013, Chris committed an act of vandalism (an arrestable offense) by defacing a [[HEXbox]] One display at a Walmart but got off easy by merely just being banned from the store. Given his furious reaction to this and his track record with a certain store owner who also did the same, it remains to be seen if Chris would follow up on his threat to have his revenge. Also, much like his tantrum at the [[Fashion Square Mall]] in 2005, Chris was confronted by a jerkop at a local restaurant after scratching a woman's car with his, and screaming out loud in public. Chris claimed he was [[Chris and religion|cursing God for all his misfortune recently]].

===2014===
On 29 [[March 2014]], a report surfaced on the [[CWCki Forums]] saying that earlier that month Chris has been spotted trying to steal merchandise from [[Best Buy]]. The next day Chris denied the truthfulness of the report, but [[Kim]] confirmed that the attempted shoplifting had indeed occurred.<ref>[[March 2014 Facebook Posts#Rumour]]</ref>

On Friday, [[26 December 2014]], Chris vandalized a Sonic Boom display in GameStop in the [[Charlottesville Fashion Square]] and was forced out due to a previous ban, but not before he attacked a staff member with pepper spray who was calling security. By the 28th, he was confirmed to be in jail. He was released on bail on Monday, 29 December.

===2015===
Throughout most of 2015, Chris behaved himself, presumably because his sojourn to the jailhouse was fresh in his memory. His punishment for the pepper spray incident was eventually decided (after '''seven''' hearings) in October – a very light sentence of a three-figure fine and a six-month prison sentence that he won't have to serve unless he breaks the law again during probation.

===2016===
<center><gallery>
File:Dogcourtcase2.png|Chris fined – No county dog tag 2
File:Dogcourtcase1.png|Chris fined – No rabies certificate 2
</gallery></center>

On July 1 of this year, Chris finally paid his $541.00 fine from his 2014/2015 court hearing. His probation also appears to have ended earlier in the year in April.

In August, Chris was fined $121 by Greene County for two charges, each misdemeanors, of failing to acquire dog tag and rabies licenses for his and [[Barbara]]'s dogs, [[Clover and Snoopy]].

In November, Chris made several death threats against President [[Pmurt|Trump]]. He is blissfully unaware that threatening the President or President-elect is one of the few restrictions on freedom of speech in America, and could land Chris with a fine and/or up to five years in prison.

===2018===
{{see also|March 2018 trespass charge}}
{{quote|The manager of [[Charlottesville Fashion Square|the mall]] threw a damned, Late Trespassing notice against me while I was there a few weeks ago. That is all; caught me in a trap like at the [[The GAMe PLACe|PLace]], except I didn't go to freaking jail, okay?|Chris<ref>https://archive.md/recKB</ref>}}

[[File:DocketComplete.png|thumb|Charlottesville takes over the case for the Therapeutic Docket.]]

In March, Chris was charged with Trespass after Forbidden,<ref>[[:File:Christine Chandler Trespass After Forbidden charge, 23 March 2018.png]]</ref> a misdemeanor count. The offense occurred on 23 March and was filed under the Albemarle Traffic/Criminal Court.

Chris repeatedly signed his name as "[[Chris Chan Sonichu]]" on court documents, despite it not being his legal name, though no action was taken by court staff on the matter.<ref>https://archive.md/aZ2DC</ref>

Chris was represented by a public defender. After several continuances, the court decided to direct Chris to a court-diversion program, the [[Therapeutic Docket]], for nine months as an alternative to a jail sentence. The trespass case was transferred to Charlottesville's jurisdiction on 10 July to supervise the Docket check-ins, until Chris graduated from the Docket on 23 April 2019, resulting in the court dismissing his trespass charge.

===2019===
23 April saw the early end of Chris's [[Therapeutic Docket]] and the dismissal of his Trespassing after Forbidden charge.

Chris [[Trolls#Chris the troll|trolled himself]] again on 5 August, when he absent-mindedly hit someone else's vehicle with [[Son-Chu]]. [[Jerkops|Police]] soon came to him and his mother about it; [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] was more involved with the situation at hand, while Chris soothed himself by kicking the police car several times before the police left. Fortunately for Chris, he was not penalized.<ref name=kick></ref>

===2021===
{{Needs Updating|Needs citations}}
{{main|Affair with Mother|Jail Saga}}

{{quote|he said he was dating this girl for months,m this 72 year old lady [...] he said he wanted to confess something to me and i suspected it bc he said it was illegal|[[Bella]] on Chris telling her about [[Affair with Mother|his incestuous relationship with his mother]].<ref>[[Chess Club Chats#Bella Reacts to Incest Call]]</ref>}}

[[File:2021 Chris Chan mugshot.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris's mugshot for his incest charge, Henrico County Sheriff's Office.]]

[[File:2021 Chris Chan mugshot 2.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris's second mugshot on 2 August when transferred to Central Virginia Regional Jail.]]

One of the darkest events in Christory happened in 2021, which came close to spelling the end of the tale of Chris-Chan as we knew it.
A series of events so controversial and massive, that they caused this very wiki to crash due to the event persistently trending on [[Twitter]] (amusingly even overtaking the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Summer_Olympics Olympic Games] for a time).

On 29 [[July 2021]], the [[Incest Call]], where he had casually admitted to repeatedly having sex with [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] since late June, was leaked. Chris also indicated that Barb was confused, telling him to stop at times, raising the possibility of it being [[Chris and sex#Rape|non-consensual]], especially since some have speculated that Barb may be suffering from dementia. Bella played along for several minutes, pretending to approve of Chris's new habit so she could record more information.

After hundreds of people contacted the police as a result of the leaks, authorities conducted a [[welfare check]] on Barb and issued an [[Emergency Protective Order]] on Chris on the following day, essentially a temporary restraining order that would last around a week, prohibiting access to Barbara and [[14 Branchland Court|his home]] until 5 August 2021. (Chris's neighbors took care of their pets after both Chandlers were taken from their home.){{cite}}

Made temporarily homeless by this turn of events, Chris decided to make matters even worse for himself by committing yet another crime; he stole $750 from Barbara's bank account to pay for hotel accommodations (and alleviate ''his negative bank balance'' at the time),{{cite}} which left him about $550 after the latter fact, before shelling out $384 for the hotel and wasting most of the remaining money on toys ([[Chris and Money|because ''of course'' he fucking did]]),{{cite}} leaving him with next to nothing yet again ($1.03 according to a Bank of America alert).<ref>[[:File:BoA alert 1 Aug 2021.png]]</ref> This crime, however, would land Chris in much hotter water than the many other times he stole from his parents: after discovering what Chris had done and being lied to about it during the confrontation, Null immediately cut ties and washed his hands of Chris,{{cite}} and proceeded to shut down the GoFundMe page intended to aid him on his planned trip to [[Everfree Northwest]] ([[List of places that have banned Chris|who banned him from entry after learning about the news]]), and refunding everyone involved.{{cite}} It should be noted that Chris had intended to use some of the funds to pay back his mother once they cleared,{{cite}} but, as stated before, he took the funds without permission and in violation of the Protective Order, which is, at the very least, a strong case for a theft charge to be laid on him later.

Chris's [[Patreon]], due to the scandal, also came under review,{{cite}} leaving many to speculate that it would most likely see deletion on top of his long-term [[Chris and negligence|neglect]] of the page and his subscribers. Sure enough, on 2 August 2021, his account was suspended, pending review - which remains until the creator logs back in.{{cite}} However, considering Chris's incarceration, it is unlikely he will be able to do so, ensuring that his account will permanently remain "under review."

Oddly enough ([[Chris and reality|or perhaps due to his enhanced delusions]]), Chris remained in seemingly good spirits during his arrest.
Despite this arrest being far more major than anything else he has previously been charged for and potentially ruining his life, Chris did not resist arrest and even disturbingly stated that being frisked by one of the [[Jerkops|officers]] [[Homos|felt good]] before being taken away.{{cite}} He also noted that the [[Dimensional Merge]] was in the process of happening, which is likely why he believed that he could weasel his way out of this somehow.{{cite}} Despite his apparent good nature, however, bodycam footage released in August 2024 showed that Chris was also quick to inform the officers that he was telepathically ordering Magi-Chan to assault them; when one jokingly responded that they didn't feel anything, Chris commanded his non-existent husband to 'punch him harder'.

Chris's case was initially up for review on 8 [[August 2023]].<ref>[[:File:Court Record - Greene Circuit Court - Incest - (Chris, CR22000141-00) - 7 March 2023.png]]</ref> He was [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arraignment arraigned] on 5 August 2021 and held without bond pending a mental health evaluation until 16 September, likely making matters worse by interrupting the court proceedings to beg for his toys.{{cite}} The hearing for 16 September was continued to 18 November, apparently for more time to evaluate Chris.{{cite}} During this time, he was held at the Central Virginia Regional Jail. Another continuance was then granted, with the next hearing taking place on 3 [[February 2022]].<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (other users)#Incest Case November '21 Continuance]]</ref> Another continuance was granted to 28 [[July 2022]],{{cite}} however, Chris was [[Jail Saga#transfer|transferred]] to [[Western State Hospital]] on 28 [[February 2022]],{{cite}} for treatment of incompetency, then was returned to the jail.

===2023===
On 27 [[March 2023]], Chris was released from jail.<ref>[[:File:VineLink Out of Custody 27 March 2023 - 1 49 pm update.png]]</ref> For several months, his whereabouts were unknown.

On 25 [[August 2023]], Chris's case was dismissed by the court.<ref>[[:File:Court Record - Greene Circuit Court - Incest - (Chris, CR22000141-00) - 25 August 2023.png]]</ref> Chris's lawyer, [[David Heilberg]], successfully plead for an [[autism disorder deferred disposition]].

During Chris's livestream on [[The Return of Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu Prime|26 October 2023]], he became visibly nervous when sirens unexpectedly sounded in the background, indicating that he harbors a lingering fear of being arrested again.

{{clear}}

==Chris's parents and the law==
It's not hard to figure out why Chris thinks the law should serve him and him alone. His parents, too, have the same problem:

* When Chris was thrown out of the [[Wikipedia:Cub Scouting (Boy Scouts of America)|Cub Scouts]] after an [[autism|unknown incident]], his parents attempted to sue the [[Wikipedia:Boy Scouts of America|Boy Scouts of America]] for [[Kick the Autistic|discrimination]].<ref>[[Mailbag 18]]</ref>
* When Chris threw a tantrum that required him to be restrained, Bob attempted to ''sue the school for restraining him''.<ref>[[Nathanael Greene Elementary School#The_aftermath]]</ref>
* When Barb and Bob had their absurd case against Greene County used against them, their first reaction was to run to another county.<ref>[[Greene County Conspiracy]]</ref>
* [[Bob]] claims that a man in [[Richmond]] by the name of Jamie Dunn tried to get him thrown in jail circa [[1999]] for unknown reasons.<ref>[[Ivy Q&A#The End]]</ref> This may be part of the reason the Chandlers decided to move back to [[Ruckersville]] in [[2000]].
* When [[Daniel Mimms|Mimms]] and [[Lucas]] took a picture of Chris and uploaded it to the Internet, Chris's parents threatened them with legal action (but as usual never followed through).
* When [[Snorlax]] thought she had indigestion, she acted like she was going to sue the Chinese establishment the food came from. When it turned out to be [[Wikipedia:colitis|colitis]], she dropped the subject.
* When [[Asperchu|Alec]] [[Matthew Nobles call|called the Chandler household]] posing as [[The GAMe PLACe]] employee Matthew Nobles, Bob and Barb claimed that taking pictures of somebody without their knowledge or consent was "not illegal," and also glossed over and/or justified Chris harassing the store after his ban. This came after threatening to sue Mimms and Lucas for doing exactly that.<ref name="Matthew Noble call">[[Matthew Noble call]]</ref>
* During that same call, Bob will not countenance the idea that an individual can be prohibited from private property, saying, "it's a business place," which has no bearing on private property laws.<ref name="Matthew Noble call"/> He and Barb also had an extremely dismissive and angry attitude towards "Matthew," which makes one wonder how they communicated with other retail workers.
* On 28 October 2011, Barb was arrested for not only fleeing the scene of an accident but also felony assault on a police officer, an extremely foolish crime that a remotely sensible person would never commit due to the serious consequences attached to it (mandatory minimum of six months' imprisonment on conviction); however, the recent death of her husband, her age, her bad health and her hopeless, dependent clod of a son seem to have helped elicit her some clemency.
* On 10 [[July 2012]], Barb was arraigned in court for her participation in the 28 October 2011 incident. She was sentenced to community service and served two-year probation.
* On 2 [[August 2021]], Chris was charged with incest with Barb. He was not charged with rape, meaning that Barb may have consented to the acts or simply did not want to pursue rape charges against her own son.
* On 23 [[November 2021]], Barb totaled her [[Son-Chu#Barb's Dodge Caravan|van]] when she failed to yield right-of way and got in a accident with a tractor trailer. Barb paid a $30 fine and $76 in court costs the following month.<ref>[[:File:Barbara Chandler Fail to Yield Right-of-Way charge.png]]</ref>
* According to [[Jail Letter - 4 July 2022]], Chris has been attempting to blackmail Barb into moving out of [[14 Branchland Court]] with various crimes he claims she is guilty of. These include negligence towards her pets, abusive behavior towards Chris and her use of Chris's [[monthly tugboat]] for herself. Obviously, it is unknown if Barb is really guilty of any of these things.

==Chris's ORIGINAL and OFFICIAL laws==
[[Image:AL cover.gif|thumb|Where Chris's ORIGINAL and OFFICIAL laws come from.]]
Chris believes the police in real life are corrupt, and sees them in the same light as he sees the Jerkops in his comic – the Jerkops act as a stand-in for police who wronged him, and are portrayed as being impostors with no legal authority (probably indicating that Chris does not recognize real policemen as legitimate authority). In light of these things, Chris has his spin on the law. The penalties for [[Alcohol|drinking]], smoking and internet harassment involve physical violence, including a "Kick in the Teeth," which Chris inexplicably portrays as a punch in the first and only of his supposed series of Q&A videos.<ref>[[Chris Chan Q&A 27 October 2008]]</ref>

On 31 [[December 2009]], Chris orated about a law he wanted to be made to prevent [[Jack Thaddeus]] from using the ad space he paid for:

{{quote|I Have The Instinct, and I Have Already [[CWC-ism|Snail-Mailed]] President Barack Obama on how this sort of bad advertisement is going on and how it is Wrong and should be made Illegal. On HOW if the Main Captain does not WANT or IS OFFENDED with the listed Ads within his own Website or Works, REGARDLESS of who controls the AdSpace, WOULD REMOVE THOSE ADS or face JAILTIME. And the F.B.I. would be FULLY INVOLVED in all this, and THEY have the Power, Tools and Balls to seek, hunt down and bring in the Individual Internet Trolls and Ad-Spammers.|Chris<ref>[[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence#THAT DOES NOT MATTER (CCS)]]</ref>}}

As one can see, Chris is seeking the direct intervention of the president of his country and beseeching him to [[Chris and reality|outlaw advertisements he doesn't like.]] Aside from the fact that Obama himself couldn't have done anything about this, the fact is that Chris was mandated by law to display the ads Jack paid to display. Chris should have written to his congressman about this rather than the president, but either way, he would have received no response.

This attitude is also reflected in his relationship with [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. [[2003|More than a decade ago]], she put a stop to Chris [[Love Quest#Conflicts with Mary Lee Walsh|soliciting sex]] on her campus. [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|War ensued]] and Chris received a well-deserved [[Autism papers|time-out]] for [[Chris and anger|his behaviour]]. Six years later, in [[2009]], Chris decided it was time to make peace. He went to her office and left her a [[:File:Apology to Mary Lee.jpg|"Framed Hand-Drawn Apology"]] on her doorstep out of the blue.<ref>[[One Blessing, and One Curse]]</ref> Her reaction was to file a trespassing notice. Chris disastrously believed that since he didn't read the letter and returned it to the sender, he wasn't liable for it.<ref>[[Mailbag 26]]</ref> Thankfully, Chris didn't trespass again.

[[Mailbag 55]] posits a few more original laws: one, that it should be illegal for [[JERKS|men]] to ever show their [[Reldnahc|bare chest]] (because, according to Chris, no one in the entire world ever wants to see a man's bare chest, presumably disregarding [[women]], [[Homos|gay men]] and boxing enthusiasts), and two, he wants to [[Women's rights|force all women]] in any kind of relationship to wear rings (purely for his benefit of course), thus defeating all symbolism and significance of them.

In the aftermath of distancing himself from the Internet, Chris began to formulate a new law, the "Bill for Anti Online Bad-Mouthing," starting with his second [[Flipnote Hatena|Flipnote]], [[Don'tGetTrolled!]]. The details are unknown, but Chris essentially wants to make so that online, nobody can ever speak negatively of anybody else under threat of prosecution. There do exist laws against cyber-crime and online harassment but these laws vary by country (and concern rather more serious deeds than drawing [[Rosechu]] with a dick), and so even if Chris's law were somehow implemented federally, only his fellow USA residents would be held accountable. Chris is failing to comprehend that people besides Americans use the internet, or worse, assuming the entire world can be held to the USA's laws.

==In CWCville==
During the [[Idea Guys]] saga, Chris was told that [[Jamsta]] Sonichu had been put on trial for molesting [[Punchy]]. Chris didn't want Jamsta to suffer in jail as he had, so he tried using his psychic powers to talk to the [[CWCville]] judge to convince him to release Jamsta, regardless of the crime he had committed. The Idea Guys informed him that the judge was unconvinced since Chris was no longer mayor, so Chris then turned his attention to the jurors. This worked but sparked a city-wide riot.<ref>[[Idea Guy Q&A]]</ref>

==In the comic==
[[File:0862-Cwcville11.JPG|right|thumb|[[CWCville]] used to have a police station, but no more.]]
The law, such as it is, in the comics is a horrifying totalitarianism where anybody anywhere is subject to the whims of a dictator. In CWCville, Chris is "mayor" (read: god-king) and has banned many things in his city. Smoking or drinking alcohol would lead one to be either sentenced to ten years in prison or a US$1,500 fine (which Chris [[Chris and money|considers an equally bad punishment]]). CWCville has its own currency (despite being nothing more than a small city) and why fines are levied in USD is unknown.<ref name="Chris Chan Q&A 27 October 2008">[[Chris Chan Q&A 27 October 2008]]</ref> Importing tobacco or alcohol incurs a greater punishment than murder or rape.<ref name="Chris Chan Q&A 27 October 2008"/> However, it should be noted that Chris [[Rollin' and Trollin'|repealed the law against alcohol]] in [[June 2009]].

The Rosechus often congregate to "protest" for [[women's rights]]. These protests usually involve nudity and/or pornography. They campaign for basic, archaic things like eligibility to vote, suggesting Chris (or one of his predecessors) has imposed discriminating laws against women in CWCville.

It is never clear whether or not CWCville is legally a part of the United States (and thus subject to its federal laws), as Chris characteristically sends mixed messages a lot – some things are distinctly American (the aforementioned USD fines, for instance. However there are {{w|Ecuador|foreign}} {{w|Zimbabwe|countries}} in the real world that use USD.), but CWCville has its currency and its own set of "laws," the likes of which would never be permitted in a developed or even undeveloped country, even if CWCville were some sort of Vatican-like sovereign state. The only arrangement that makes even the slightest amount of sense is that CWCville is just that – a sovereign state on US soil. Chris doesn't seem to have thought this out though and believes the mayor of a town is legally entitled to act as an authoritarian dictator.

As a mayor, Chris does nothing bureaucratic, ever, and makes [[Allison Amber|his secretary]] do all the paperwork (as per his thoughts on women) while he goes off on another one of his sweetheart searches. He has mandated "[[dating education|Dating Education]]" classes for students so that they can learn to go on dates, as well as how to "stay straight."

[[List of Sonichu characters#Constables Gerald Grant and Louis Perez|Actual police officers]] did not appear until [[Sonichu 10|quite late]] in the series and even then, they did nothing whatsoever, giving the impression that Chris and his [[Pokémon]] abominations are the only thing standing between peace and violent anarchy. However, [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]] seems to reveal that there are three sets of "other" protectors: a (possibly) nondescript police force (distinct from [[Mary Lee Walsh]]'s [[jerkops]]), as well as his team of [[Power Rangers]] and a team of [[Transformers]].

{{quote|Is CWCville under Martial Law?|[[Jack Thaddeus]] citing the truth as he sees it}}

In conversation with [[Jack Thaddeus]], Chris revealed that CWCville is the home of a paramilitary force equipped with tanks which he uses as a "Police Force," and all his [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] enjoy immunity from prosecution and are above the law.<ref>[[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 3]]</ref> Add this to the fact that Chris cannot be deposed as mayor ("there [[Chris and English|is]] no elections") and the fact that the police and a fleet of superpowered goons obey anything Chris demands of them, and it paints a very frightening picture. According to Chris, [[Magi-Chan]] mentally scans the city perimeters for any sexual acts, and reports any [[homos|homosexual]] activity to the authorities. The participants are then "tried and fined HEAVILY; $500 or 50 Hours of Community Service."<ref>[[Mailbag 31#Magi-Chan knows when you fuck]]</ref> Apparently in CWCville, the [[Wikipedia:Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution|Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution]] does not apply in matters of personal sexual choice, and neither does the [[wikipedia:Lawrence v. Texas|U.S. Supreme Court ruling]] finding sodomy laws to be unconstitutional.

Even though Chris's deranged laws exist only within his city-state-country-whatever of CWCville, he exacts his deranged fury unto people whether they're actually in his jurisdiction or not. [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu #10'']] shows four distinct crimes committed outside of CWCville: the destruction of the [[4-cent garbage]] building, the murder of over one hundred alleged "trolls" in said destruction, breaking and entering, and destroying Internet files and property. There was no evidence to suggest that this act of mass murder was even investigated by the authorities, and the comic portrays this act of [[Twin Falling Towers|terrorism]] as Chris and his goons heroically defeating a gang of criminals.

Chris may be able to murder without being reprimanded, but of course, this doesn't apply to everyone. Following the death of [[Simonla]], the culprits ([[Alec]], [[Mao]], [[Sean]] and [[Evan]]) are subjected to a show trial, and given no defense attorney by the state (violating the [[Wikipedia:Sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution|Sixth Amendment]]) forcing Sean to act as their lawyer despite being [[Tobacky|high as a kite]]. There is no solid evidence presented for the murder charge, aside from the Voltorb remote (which the prosecutor never tried to prove belonged to them) and wholly unreliable "psychic evidence" extracted by Magi-Chan. When they're railroaded and found guilty, they're ''killed by the people they've wronged'' (read: murdered brutally by cartoon characters), in a gross violation of the [[Wikipedia:Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution|Eighth Amendment]] forbidding cruel and unusual punishment.

Demonstrating Chris's limited understanding of trials (as his knowledge of trials stems purely from television), the kangaroo court integrates both elements of civil and criminal trials. The Asperpedia Four are not only prosecuted for murder by a [[Marvey Blaziken|state attorney]], as per a criminal trial, but also charged with defamation of character, libel, and copyright infringement (as well as several charges such as "profanity to the max" that would hold no water in an actual court) by Chris and his cohorts, as per a civil trial. Surely enough, Chris, Sonichu, and Rosechu are sitting in a benchmarked "PLAINTIF" [sic]. That both civil and criminal charges are included in one trial not only demonstrates a poor understanding of the courtroom process but is further proof that Chris considers "slanderous mockeries" and other torts on par with major crimes such as murder and assault. To add to the equation, one cannot be given a death sentence (or any sentence, for that matter) for being guilty in a civil trial, but in the Asperpedia Four trial, civil charges are the primary reason for the death sentence. In summary, the CWCville court system is a constitutional nightmare that violates multiple articles and amendments and has no concept of due process. One must wonder why it is allowed to exist within the borders of the U.S.

Were it not obvious by now, any semblance of law in CWCville exists solely to further the wishes of its tyrannical (and murderous) creator god.

==Fan video==
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = How to Check Chris Chan's Court Records
| ytid = LnA8Ar5mS1M
| Stardate = 31 July 2022
| Maker = CottonMather
| Subject =
| Video Type =
| Other Info =
}}

==See also==
*[[Chris and copyright]]
*[[Debt]]
*[[Jerkop]]
*[[Manajerks]]
*[[Parody]]
*[[Therapeutic Docket]]

== References ==
<references />

{{Chris and}}
{{Law}}
[[Category:Articles with Jail Saga speculation]]

File:Chris chan conspiracy trial.png

2025-05-11T23:08:17Z

Thnxbb: Trial artwork of Chris used to promote Episode 4 of TheGamerFromMars documentary

== Summary ==
Trial artwork of Chris used to promote Episode 4 of TheGamerFromMars documentary

Talk:Man in the Pickle Suit

2019-04-28T10:38:27Z

Thnxbb: /* Plan to create an article for Marvin */ new section

==Pickle Man as the owner==
Should we add any reference of him being the current owner of the Cwcki? -[[User:Larry the Larryhog|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog|talk]]) 19:53, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

*Sounds good. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 19:59, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

== Plan to create an article for Marvin ==

I've made this article less Marvin-centric to prepare for a write-up of an individual Marvin page. He seems deserving of an article due to his involvement in the Idea Guys dismantlement + the Miscreants, however I'm not 100% certain if the MiPS page should just be restructured, vs. just making a new page entirely. Please let me know what you think [[User:Thnxbb|Thnxbb]] ([[User talk:Thnxbb|talk]]) 10:38, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Man in the Pickle Suit

2019-04-28T10:33:15Z

Thnxbb:

{{Articleofthenow}}
{{quote|The Pickle Man tricked me again.|Christian Weston Chandler<ref>[[Chris Chan Update 21 October 2008]]</ref>}}

{{infobox
| title = Pickle Man
| image = [[Image:Realpickle1.png|250px|center]]
|header1 = Information
|label1 = Name
|data1 = Marvin Harold?<ref>[[Kacey Call 24]]</ref>
|label4 = Gender
|data4 = Male
|label6 = [[Chris and race|Race]]
|data6 = White [[Niggo|Black]] [[Michael Snyder|Jew]]
|label7 = Occupation
|data7 = [[Troll]] Owner of the Cwcki(?)
|
}}

<div style="position:fixed; bottom:0; right:0">[[Image: DancingPickleMan.gif]]</div>

The '''Man in the [[Pickle]] Suit''' (sometimes referred to as the '''[[Niggos|Black]] Man in the Pickle Suit'''<ref>[[Jackie Chat 3]]</ref><ref>[[Jackie Chat 6]]</ref>) was the arch-nemesis of [[Chris]] whom he used to blame whenever he was tricked or conned. In [[2009]], the role of the Man in the Pickle Suit was adopted by Marvin, who is often referred to as the '''Jew in the Pickle Suit'''.

The character was first created on 11 [[September 2008]] by a troll posing as [[Blanca]].<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20080925054140/http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Chris-chan Web Archive - Chris Chan's Encyclopedia Dramatica]</ref> Using a fake [[MySpace]] page, they claimed that Blanca was in fact a black transvestite in a pickle costume. This lead to Chris believing that the pictured Man in the Pickle Suit was in fact a real person. Because the persona was entirely fictional, the character quickly became anonymized by trolls, with multiple people operating under the name at once. There is no single "Man in the Pickle Suit".

Even though Chris turns basically [[Kick the Autistic|everyone that annoys him]] into a [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|villain]] in his [[Sonichu (comic)|comic]], the Man in the Pickle Suit has surprisingly been spared. The closest he got to featuring as an enemy was when [[Clyde Cash|"Cly"]] fought Chris using a goddamn "pickle gun".<ref>[[Sonichu Special 1]]</ref>

== Origin ==
[[File:Picklemanorigins.png|left|thumb|The original [[MySpace]] page.<ref name="mysp">[https://web.archive.org/web/20080915053142/https://myspace.com/kawaiikitsune123 Web Archive - kawaiikitsune123]</ref>]]{{quote|I don't know who that guy is and I don’t think I really would care to know.|[[Chris]] on the Man in the Pickle Suit - [[Christian Weston Chandler Interview]]}}
Midway through [[August 2008]], a troll on [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] by the name of [[Lordsillynipples]] created a profile posing [[Blanca]] under the name "kawaiikitsune123".<ref name="mysp">[https://web.archive.org/web/20080915053142/https://myspace.com/kawaiikitsune123 Web Archive - kawaiikitsune123]</ref> The troll successfully tricked Chris into believing he was speaking to the "real" Blanca, and solicited nudes of him wearing his mother's bra and underwear. This was in spite of Chris stating earlier in the conversation, "you can't fool me; I KNOW from your attitude that you are the Pickle Man trying to get more crap on me again. Sorry Dude, you may as well TELL ME THE TRUTH".

On [[9/11|11 September 2008]], the troll revealed himself, leaking Chris' nudes onto [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] and taunting Chris by stating they were a black pickle-suited transvestite.

==Jew in the Pickle Suit ==
While many operated under the moniker, by far the most notorious individual was the '''Jew in the Pickle Suit''', also known as '''Marvin'''. Although Marvin has long-since stopped operating under the Man in the Pickle Suit name, he is still active on [[Kiwi Farms]] is the current owner of the [[CWCki]]. He played a significant role in dismantling the [[Idea Guys]], and is often considered a "coach" to current-day trolls.

On 15 [[March 2009]], Marvin accompanied [[Robert Simmons V]] to his [[Church audio|visit]] to [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church|Christian's church]], disguised as an average civilian.

On 19 [[March 2009]], Marvin, at great personal risk, rescued [[Emily]] from [[Emily#Chris.27s_first_date|a horrific first date with Chris IRL]]. Whilst Emily and Chris were chatting it up and walking around the mall, the Man in the Pickle Suit emerged from the shadows, and began flirting with Emily. He ultimately won her over, stealing her from Chris, who stood dumbfounded, unable to cope with the defeat he had just suffered.

In [[October 2009]], the Jew in the Pickle Suit established a [[YouTube]] account<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/user/TheNationofPickleMen#p/a/u/2/1cVdNCXTUB4]</ref> that suggested he had come out of retirement one last time to deal a final, crushing blow upon the manchild. Sadly, despite his promise that Chris would never complete his [[Fuck Quest]], Chris ended up [[Mia Hamm|losing his virginity]] in 2012.

{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = A Message to Chris Chan. From an old friend.
| video = {{#ev:youtube|1cVdNCXTUB4}}
| stardate = 23 [[April 2010]]
| maker = I Am The Internet Pickle Man
| subject =
| type =
}}

==Selected videos==

* 11 September 2008: [[Captain's Log, Stardate September 11th, 2008]] - Chris is first trolled by the Pickle Man.
* 21 October 2008: [[Chris Chan Update 21 October 2008]] - Chris [[stress|crashes into slumber]] after the Pickle Man breaks up his relationship with [[Blanca]].
* 17 March 2010: [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb]] - Chris accuses [[Surfshack Tito (troll)|Surfshack Tito]] of being a "pickle-suited [[Niggos|nigger]]".

{{clear}}

==Gallery==
<center><gallery>
Image:Pickleslol.jpg|One artist's depiction of the Man in the Pickle Suit.
Image:Black_man_in_pickle_suit.jpg|The Man in the Pickle Suit looking awesome.
Image:MPSGotReal.jpg|That's no suit, Chris.
Image:FC07.jpg|He is real. Very real.
Image:Read This One.jpg|Despite including this warning, in which he suspected the user of being the Man in the Pickle Suit, he sent this user pictures of him in his mother's underwear and bra. IN THE SAME EMAIL.
Image:TapestryPickleMan.jpg|The Man in the Pickle Suit is an ancient title passed on from one troll to another. In this lost scene from the Bayeux Tapestry, Geoffrey Weston the Feeble-Minded (a possible early ancestor to [[Daniel Weston]]) is tricked by "The Man Donning the Pickled Cucumber Suit".
Image:FightPickleman.jpg|The weeaboo version of the Man in the Pickle Suit.
Image:CucumberMan.jpg|WHO IS THE CUCUMBER MAN?
Image:Pickleportrait.jpg|MPS looking great, as usual.
File:Ze_Pickleman.jpg|Shit just got real.
File:Pickleman.jpg|He is always watching.
File:Black man in pickle suit (1).jpg|Response to the [[Sonic Boom Protests]].
</gallery></center>

==References==
<references/>
==External links==
*[http://www.myspace.com/kawaiikitsune123 The Man in the Pickle Suit] on [[MySpace]]
*[http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Man-in-the-Pickle-Suit/178569036183 The Man in the Pickle Suit] on [[Facebook]]
*[http://https://twitter.com/hwinslow3 The Man in the Pickle Suit] on [[Twitter]]

{{Trolls}}
{{People}}
[[Category:Trolls]]
[[Category:Villains]]

File:Picklemanorigins.png

2019-04-28T09:35:17Z

Thnxbb:

Lukas, Devil and Eva

2019-04-26T02:30:00Z

Thnxbb:

{{Articleofthenow}}
{{Honest}}
{{Ongoing}}

{{infobox
|title = Lukas Sampson
|image = [[File:Screenshot 2019-04-18 at 8.35.29 AM.png|200px]]
|header1 = Information
|label1 = Name
|data1 = Lillie Celeste Simpkins
|label2 = Also known as
|data2 = Lukas Simpskins Lillie Celeste Simpkins FFEMemberLukas ThatKidd910 
|label3 = Age
|data3 = 18
|label4 = Gender
|data4 = Male
|label5 = Nationality
|data5 = American
}}

The '''Teen Troon Squad''' are a group of trolls who began manipulating Chris towards the end of [[2018]]. As their moniker suggests, they are known to be transgender and [[Pedofork|half of Chris's age]]. Because of their activity in trolling Chris at around the same time as the Idea Guys, there is often confusion as to who exactly is responsible for what. Don't be fooled however; as regardless of who individually is responsible, collectively they are all [[weens]].

The Teen Troon Squad originally met Chris when two of their members purchased his 32-page porn drawings on [[eBay]] for $1,000. As of April 2019, only one member has been fully exposed, while the rest have wiped their presence off the internet completely.

==Identities==
While the members of the Squad were noticed by Kiwi Farms from the start, observers had no idea to what extent they would become involved with Chris. References on the forum to them buying Chris's porn art date from April 2018, and them smoking marijuana with Chris date as early as October 2018.

===Lukas Simpkins===
[[File:Lukasfacebook.png|thumb|200px|Lukas' [[Facebook]] avatar.<ref>https://archive.fo/9Xpxc</ref>]]
As the time of writing, '''Lukas Simpkins''' is the only known member of the Teen Troon Squad, with the others only being known by their first name and aliases. Lukas' identity was exposed in a confusing tweet from 25 [[December 2018]], in which he (or at least someone pretending to be him) roleplays as Magi-Chan before doxing Lukas. This goes to the extent of providing his full legal name, new home address, and a phone number. Once this was released, Kiwi Farms began attempting to archive all of his profiles, though Lukas quickly moved to delete those.

===Other members===
[[File:Screenshot-twitter.com 2018-05-01 09-33-14.png|thumb|200px|"Devil" details the purchase.]]
There are only two other known members of the squad, and information about them is scarce. One of them is only known by their first name, "Celeste"<ref name="Marvin confirms 'Celeste'">https://kiwifarms.net/threads/12-25-the-teen-troon-squad-reveals-themselves-say-theyre-behind-the-merge.51472/post-4125888</ref>, while the other is only known by their online aliases "Devil", "wxlfdxg" and "Sxvxnd"<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/random-chris-updates.23605/page-558#post-3309948</ref>. The latter helped Lukas purchase Chris' porn drawings.

==Behind the scenes==
Much like the Idea Guys, the Teen Troon Squad's trolling occurred largely behind-the-scenes. Only very scarce amount of content was ever released until [[December 2018]]. Because of this, accurately estimating the extent of their manipulation is impossible.

==="Lot of 32 porn drawings"===
On 24 April 2018, Chris posted an [[eBay]] listing of [[2018 Sales Listings#Lot of 32 porn drawings|32 porn drawings]] he had produced over the years, including the infamous [[ShecameforCWC.JPG]]. Though the listing was quickly pulled within a few hours for violating TOS, Lukas expressed interest in buying the art on twitter. He wrote:

{{quoteboxgreen|@CWCSonichu im willing to pay the 1,000$ for the drawings, please repost them on ebay or esty so i can}}

Chris complied, quietly relisting the drawings under the incognito title "Artsfor lukas". This purchase would be the set-up for the entire Teen Troon Squad saga.

===In-person visits===
[[File:ChrisandTeenTroonSquad.png|thumb|[[Chris]] and the Teen Troon Squad posing for a picture]]
{{Quote|Honestly, I wouldn't advise it. He smells like cat piss and told us he wanted to fuck his mom. 0/10, would never do again. He made me into a part [of] Sonichu, it was awful.|Lukas, on why you shouldn't spend hours upon hours interacting with Chris in-person.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/12-25-the-teen-troon-squad-reveals-themselves-say-theyre-behind-the-merge.51472/page-17</ref>}}

Since the Squad lives in the same area as Chris, on 27 [[April 2018]] they arranged for Chris to deliver the porn art they had purchased to Lukas's house. This would be the first of many visits, as the Squad would periodically invite Chris over, without the knowledge of their parents. These visits are evidenced by numerous archived social media posts, as well as a video [[Chris with Teen Troon Squad|leaked of Chris acting delusional, probably while high on marijuana, at Lukas' house]]. What exactly occurred at these meetings is unknown, but all of the information released seems to imply that they primarily consisted of role-playing. For example, in [[Chris with Teen Troon Squad]], he points at the air, states "I love you, Cryzel", and pretends to make out with her. When asked by a [[Twitter]] user about Chris' behavior in-person, Lukas described him as somewhat "rapey", stating that he had no personal space whatsoever<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/12-25-the-teen-troon-squad-reveals-themselves-say-theyre-behind-the-merge.51472/page-17</ref>.

{{quoteboxgreen|He would kiss on us, hug us, rub on us, press his head against ours randomly, get incredibly close... He is really rapey, it's awful. Especially because at the time, we were all [[Pedofork|minors]].}}

If true, it makes no sense why Lukas would willingly invite Chris over multiple times, especially with how much information on Chris's creepiness is publicly available. It's instead believed these statements were damage control. Hilariously, Chris also had some of his own complaints about Lukas, angrily posting a tweet revealing that Lukas had attempted to convince Chris into buying alcohol for them<ref name="a">https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/upload_2018-12-30_9-36-57-png.626168/</ref>.

{{quotebox|No, Lukas, I will NOT buy you booze!}}

<center>
<gallery>
File:Screenshot-twitter.com 2018-05-01 09-35-39.png|Lukas stating the item had been delivered, marking the first meeting.
File:Screenshot.1545857804.png|Evidence of a hang-out occurring on 14 [[July 2018]] with "Devil".
Ttstext1.jpg|The original texts from Lukas regarding Chris.
Ttstext2.jpg|Note the writing style.
</gallery></center>

===The reveal===
On [[Christmas|25 December]] 2018, a person posing as [[Magi-Chan]] posted a tweet linking to a (since taken down) Pastebin, now referred to as "The 'Teen Troon Squad' Reveals Themselves"<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/12-25-the-teen-troon-squad-reveals-themselves-say-theyre-behind-the-merge.51472/</ref>. This Pastebin elaborately doxes Lukas, revealing his birth name, home address, and a supposed phone number. The author then lists some details regarding the [[Dimensional Merge]], before expanding on what the Teen Troon Squad had been doing. They reveal that the group had been "spend[ing] a lot of time opening [their] mind[s] by role playing and smoking weed with cool people like [[Tomgirl|Christine]]." Naturally, when the link was first released, there was much speculation as to who had actually written the tweet. The author claimed to be Lukas himself, stating:
{{quoteboxgreen|I currently have Lukas (my host body) in a trance, so they won't remember typing this out.}}
However, to many, this read as if there had been a third-party involved. Ultimately, it was determined that it had to have been done by someone Chris had trusted with his password; significantly narrowing down the suspect pool. A follow-up tweet from Chris later called the author a "gremlin" trying to divide him, Lukas, and [[The Captain]].<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/dimensional-merge-tweets-megathread.49414/page-68#post-4128895</ref> The most important revelation is the mention of The Captain, who Lukas would later claim was responsible for doxxing him.

<center>
<gallery>
File:TheCaptainLukas.png|"The Captain is the lovely person that doxxed me."
</gallery></center>

==Relation to the Idea Guys==
{{see also|Idea Guys}}
{{Quote|No matter how many times I die, somebody somewhere will pick up where I left off.|[[Idea Guys#Joshua Allen Wise|Joshua Wise]], during [[The Bad Beginning]].}}

After gaining Chris's trust, the Squad infiltrated into Chris's accounts, leaked content, and then pointed the finger at Wise and Boyd; and time and time again, Chris has taken their statements at face value.

Lukas also admitted that the Squad encouraged Chris's multi-dimensional beliefs that had been planted by the Idea Guys.

==Trolling activities==
Below are summaries of the Teen Troon Squad's known trolling activities.

=== Dimensional merge ===
{{main|Dimensional Merge}}

Much like the Idea Guys, they played into Chris' fantasies, with Lukas himself often pretending to be possessed by [[Magi-Chan]]. The person writing from the perspective of Magi-Chan in the reveal explains some important details about the dimensional merge including:
* "everyone disconnects from Earth 1218 for a small period of time"
* "we hibernate"
* "and by the end of 2018 in our universe, the universes will be merged"
The author also states that due to time dilation caused by the merge, from the perspective of Earth, the merge will take 20 years to complete and end in the year 2038. It's worth noting that Chris has since dubbed this fake news.

=== Introduction to cannabis ===
[[File:Upload 2018-10-26 11-15-41 (1).png|thumb|The disastrous effects of a life on drugs.]]
{{see also|Chris with Teen Troon Squad}}

Sometime during one of their in-person role-playing sessions, Lukas introduced Chris to cannabis. What resulted is captured in a 38-second long, showing Chris high on marijuana while pretending to make out with [[Cryzel]]. Chris later angrily clarified on [[Twitter]] that he was not, in fact, constantly high.

{{Infobox/video
| name = Chris with Teen Troon Squad
| video = {{#ev:youtube|v=CHO7-l6T4r4}}
| stardate = 26 [[December 2018]]
| subject = {{Trollsicon|text}}
| style = {{Crazy|text}}
| saga = {{Teen Troon Squad|text}}
| shirt = {{ParappaShirt|text}}
| other = {{Leaked|text}}
| previous = [[December_2018_videos#Sylvia_is_playful|Sylvia is playful]]
| next = [[December 2018 Paid Video Requests|Merry Gubmas!]]
}}

==Leaked content==
===Twitter leaks===
[[File:Screenshot-twitter.com-2018.11.18-16-23-55.png|thumb|right|One of the earlier Twitter leaks.]]
{{main|Twitter#Leaks}}

Throughout 2018, Chris-Chan's [[Twitter]] account was hacked several times by an unknown individual claiming to be associated with the Idea Guys. It seems more likely, however, that they were being posted by Lukas given that they occurred long after the Idea Guys were taken out of power. The leak also included footage that was later leaked in full by Lukas onto [[/cow/]], making his involvement all the more likely. Regardless of who actually leaked the videos, Chris himself believed it to be the work of Boyd and Wise, subsequently calling them out by name in a tweet afterwards.<ref>https://twitter.com/CWCSonichu/status/1072900174521847808</ref>

===/cow/ leaks===
In December 2018, after Lukas was doxed, he began leaking content onto 8chan's [[/cow/]] board in hopes of appeasing the trolls. While normally, those posting to the site would be protected under the guise of anonymity, Lukas stated plainly who they were, even linking to their personal twitter account. Eventually, they began backtracking after being targeted by [[Kiwi Farms]] after the release of [[All Star]]; but it was already too late.

====28 December 2018====
Lukas leaks [[Teen Troon Squad chats|Discord logs from Chris]], in which Chris discusses how he damaged his high school ring. These logs are dated 18 December 2018, and take place in an unknown Discord server.

====29 December 2018====
Lukas posts an original Sonichu character and medallion Chris had created for him, named "Luka Sonichu". The drawing is dated 23 August 2018. The post's message blatantly admits that they are Lukas, as does the image. He also starts a seperate thread, where he leaks [[Chris lost Crystal|a video of Chris screaming at his toilet]]<ref>http://archive.is/j7oFu</ref>.

<center>
<gallery>
File:Screenshot-8ch.net-2018.12.29-19-21-47.png
File:LukasMedallion.jpeg|Note the red streak.
File:LeakTroonSquad2912.png
</gallery></center>

====30 December 2018====
Lukas, in a desperate final attempt to appease the troll community, begins leaking the [[All Star]] masturbation tape. He reveals to them that he is leaking the content in the hopes that trolls leave him alone.
{{quoteboxgreen|look i cant change my phone number. my mother and friends use it to contact me. id rather her not know something happened on here.
please leave me alone. i'll give you everything i have on chris if you do.<ref>http://archive.is/7NtgZ</ref>}}

<center>
<gallery>
File:2018.12.31 - cow1.png
File:2018.12.31 - cow2.png
File:2018.12.31 - cow3.png
File:2018.12.31 - cow4.png
File:2018.12.31 - cow5.png
</gallery></center>

The last message Lukas posts that day is another plea for trolls to stop texting him, and offering to tell the whole story to anyone who messages him on Twitter. He links one of his own tweets, which has been transcribed below<ref>http://archive.is/5M6J9</ref>:

{{quoteboxgreen|if anyone wants to know the truth on what happened, feel free to inbox me
im more than happy to tell you all about christines lovely adventures and set things straight}}

====31 December 2018====
{{see also|All Star}}
Lukas, satisfied that the trolls now seem to be leaving him alone, finally posts the rest of [[All Star]] as a reward.

{{quoteboxgreen|since idiots are starting to get a clue and leave me alone heres the rest. i dont care chris aint going to do shit to me becuase my mom will sue him}}

===Chris's reaction===
On 29 December 2018, Chris condemned Lukas over Twitter, alluding to a falling out between them, though blame for Lukas's actions was assigned to Arfoire, (a [[Hyperdimension Neptunia]] villain whom Chris also believed had been behind [[Jessica Quinn]]). He tweeted out:<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/upload_2018-12-30_9-36-57-png.626168/</ref>

{{quotebox|I just want Everyone to know how ANGRY and DISAPPOINTED I am with Lukas Simpkins of Lynchburg!

How DARE You Insult your OWN Special Sonichu!

Despite ARVORE making Him saying Horrible Things, I feel there is Bad coming from Lukas, Himself.

No, Lukas, I will NOT buy you booze!}}

===Backpedaling===
Upon realizing the newfound attention that he'd attracted from [[All Star]], Lukas frantically began backpedaling on Twitter. Once again, he attempted to use the [[Idea Guys]] as a scapegoat, but few were convinced. This is because of the overwhelming amount of context and framing that would have to have been done for little-to-no gain.

<center>
<gallery>
File:Screenshot 20181231-120212 Twitter.jpg|"I only released ONE video."
File:Screenshot-twitter.com-2018.12.31-20-28-42.png|A far cry from "i dont care chris aint going to do shit".
</gallery></center>

==See also==
*[[Chris with Teen Troon Squad]]
*[[Twitter#Leaks|Twitter Leaks]]
*[[Teen Troon Squad chats]]
*[[Dimensional Merge]]
*[[Chris and reality]]

== References ==
<references />
{{Trolls}}
{{People}}

Talk:Joshua Moon

2019-04-26T01:16:44Z

Thnxbb:

Isn't Null deserving of an entire article at this point? There's a lot to be covered from the Guard Dog saga.

Maybe so, what'd you have in mind to add? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 08:20, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Forgot to sign my first post, my b lol. The Null article would basically outlining the Guard Dog saga, his plans to pick up Chris at one point, and eventual abandonment of Chris. I've dug up a [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 few posts] that explain the story more in depth and while I could add it all to the Kiwi Farms page, it feels cluttered as it is. Plus, since Null has become personally involved, it just seems more in-line now to give him his own page. [[User:Thnxbb|Thnxbb]] ([[User talk:Thnxbb|talk]]) 14:03, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

:Sounds like a good idea. One suggestion I have would be, rather than having Null as the central focus, the new article could be about the group that ousted the Idea Guys as a whole. That way The Captain and Marvin's contributions can be noted as well. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 22:55, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. [[User:Thnxbb|Thnxbb]] ([[User talk:Thnxbb|talk]]) 08:42, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

:Fantastic work on the article. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 16:48, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

::Thanks for all the support fam! [[User:Thnxbb|Thnxbb]] ([[User talk:Thnxbb|talk]]) 01:16, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

==Article naming==
Should this article be named after only Null? Of the four sections, one is about Null and three are about the group of The Captain, Marvin, and Null. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 16:48, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Midway through, I realized the operations would probably work better as their own independent article; but I wasn't sure what to call it. Maybe the Guard dogs? The new guard? (The old guard being the PVCC) [[User:Thnxbb|Thnxbb]] ([[User talk:Thnxbb|talk]]) 18:43, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

*I'm not sure, either. New guard could work but there'd be a conflict if another guard forms in future. Maybe Inner Circle? Or a plain title like their usernames in alphabetical order, "Marvin, Null, and The Captain"? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 19:11, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

::Did some moving and re-arranging; [[Joshua Moon]] now redirects to [[Null]], and the article has been split off into [[Guard Dogs]] (new sub-section) [[User:Thnxbb|Thnxbb]] ([[User talk:Thnxbb|talk]]) 22:16, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

:::Nice. Looks good. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 22:52, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Guard Dogs

2019-04-25T22:17:44Z

Thnxbb: /* E-mail monitoring */

With the revelation that the [[Idea Guys]] were still actively manipulating [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] in early [[2018]], a new effort to systematically dismantle their and other trolling operations began. Now known as the '''"Guard Dogs"''', this group sought to replace the old guard that had once existed before, and hopefully put an end to current-day [[weening]]. This group has since been credited with the outing of both the [[Idea Guys]] and the [[Teen Troon Squad]]. Their efforts have been met with mixed reception. While most on Kiwi Farms praise their rescue of Chris from the Idea Guys' grasps, others criticize the group for being [[White Knight|white knights]].

Prior to the existence of the guard dogs, efforts to monitor Chris' accounts for trolls have existed in the past. However, none were as straightforward to Chris or as elaborate as those of the guard dogs.

==Members==
===Null===
{{main|Null}}
Joshua Moon, also known as Null, is the current owner of [[Kiwi Farms]]. He became involved mid-way through their investigation of the [[Idea Guys]]' [[Discord]], and was largely behind the push for the Idea Guys to face legal repercussions. He has since removed himself from these efforts, however, due to losing sympathy for Chris.

===Marvin===
{{main|The Man in the Pickle Suit}}
Marvin, also known as "The Jew in the Pickle Suit", is a former troll of Chris' who has since stayed to the bylines. Because of his status as an active Christorical figure, however, he's often contacted for advice in both [[trolling]] and [[White Knight|counter-trolling]] efforts.

===The Captain===
The Captain, unlike the other two involved, had no past history with Chris; stating that he only "fell into the whole thing by a matter of association".<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/profile-posts/133208/ Comment on The Captain's Profile]</ref> Little is known about him past this.

==Rescue from the Idea Guys==
In late [[April 2018]], [[Anna McLerran]] contacted [[The Captain]] stating that she was worried Chris was being actively manipulated.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref> She was unable to get any confirmation, however, due to Chris refusing to give any information. In response, "Operation: Kingsnake" began.

===Discovery===
Based off of this information, The Captain began attempting to contact Chris. He was eventually able to gain his trust, but only by playing along to his [[Chris and reality|delusional beliefs]]. Chris then revealed to him that he was in a top-secret [[Discord]] chat with the [[Idea Guys]] on a separate account they had created for him. At this point, with the coaching of [[The Man in the Pickle Suit|Marvin]], The Captain had multiple conversations with Chris in which he attempted to convince him that the Idea Guys were bad people who had only hurt “fake” characters. Chris eventually came to believe him, but only after using his “mind powers”.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref> In response, he gave The Captain full control to his accounts so he could gather evidence against the Idea guys.

===Infiltration===
[[File:IdeaGuyDiscords.jpg|thumb|250px|left|A screenshot by [[The Captain]] revealing the profiles of all the [[Idea Guys]].]]
When The Captain first logged in to Chris’ [[Discord]] account, he was overwhelmed by how far the Idea Guys had gone to take advantage of Chris. Their tactics ranged from extortion, to threats, and even blackmail. He once again went to Marvin with this information. To stall the Idea Guys so they could collect evidence, the two began roleplaying in the server as Chris. This stalling lasted upwards of a week. Whenever the Idea Guys asked The Captain something he didn’t know, The Captain would ask Marvin and Chris for direction and then reply accordingly. At one point during the week, the Idea Guys became suspicious, and asked Chris to post photographic evidence to prove that he was indeed himself. They quickly had Chris take this photograph for them, writing the desired message on a dry erase board. They were also able to collect the IPs of [[Idea Guys#Identities|Wise and Boyd]] using an IP tracer, as well as the IP of a third unidentified Idea Guy.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551849 The Captain reveals the Idea Guys' Discord]</ref> During this time, Chris was told to take a break from the internet for a week, to which he complied. He spent that week catching up on the shows Wise and Boyd had “banned” him from watching, which included [[My Little Pony]] and “nearly everything on Crunchy Roll”.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

Eventually, Marvin managed to build a script that ripped the server's chat logs straight from Discord, archiving the hundreds of pages of the Idea Guys' debauchery. Once all of the images and chat logs had been saved, Chris’ Discord account went unused and remained offline. A couple of days later, Wise and Boyd realized what this new inactivity implied, and began sanitizing the server. They banned Chris from the channel, and deleted every private message they had sent him one by one. For them, however, it was already too late.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

===Extortion===
[[File:IdeaGuyReceipts1.jpg|thumb|250px|Receipts of items Chris bought for Wise and Boyd.]]
{{main|Idea Guys#Extortion}}
{{quote|I get that $6000 isn't the white collar crime that brings down the hammer, but we're talking about unhinged lunatics who are coaxing mentally ill people into punching themselves.|Null, describing his frustrations with law enforcement.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>}}

Midway through their infiltration of the Idea Guys’ [[Discord]], Null was brought into the process. As more information poured in, he personally became involved, filing reports with the FBI, Green County Sheriff, and even calling Boyd’s mother. Chris began taking steps to assist any future investigations, imcluding getting a new phone number, and forwarding Null, Marvin and The Captain any and all suspicious incoming messages. He then gave the three full access to all of his accounts. Chris also began collecting all of his receipts from Food Lion, which he had used to purchase Amazon/GameStop gift cards for the Idea Guys with. He also took screenshots of his GameStop order history to prove that he had purchased and sent PS Vitas and other items to Wise and Boyd’s personal addresses. In total, the Idea Guys extorted approximately $6000 from Chris. This resulted in Chris facing serious monetary issues.

Strangely, to this day law enforcement have yet to act on any of Null’s reports. Green County Sheriff Steven S. Smith refused to act, stating that it was Chris’ choice to shit on the floor. The FBI was sent his IC3 twice (once online, another in-person by Chris) but no action was ever taken. Thus, Wise and Boyd have yet to face any legal repercussions for their extortion and blackmailing of an exceptional individual.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

===E-mail monitoring===
[[File:NullvulgarWeen.jpg|thumb|250px|Null angrily insulting a [[ween]] with racial epithets.]]
[[File:CWC drawing for Joshua Moon.jpg|thumb|250px|The 'dull lull' himself.]]
After the Idea Guys were successfully removed from power, Chris began speaking to Null, Marvin and The Captain regularly. They began actively monitoring his accounts, with Null personally reviewing all of Chris’ emails.<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref><ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/ OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>
This lead to Chris and the three to speak on very friendly terms, with Chris even drawing Null his very own original [[My Little Pony]] character. They also began coaching Chris on how to better protect his social media, though their efforts were most likely in vain.

===Publication of leaked content===
{{see also|Idea Guys#Gallery of leaked content}}

Null has written and published a handful of articles onto Kiwi Farms regarding the content retrieved during their infiltration of the [[Idea Guys|Idea Guys']] discord server.

On 11 [[July 2018]], Null released his account of the dismantling of the Idea Guys onto Kiwi Farms, dubbing the group “The Chris-Chan Extortionists”. Written for a broader audience, he reveals to what extent the Idea Guys had manipulated Chris, and his frustration with law enforcement’s inaction.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

On 13 [[July 2018]], Null released [[Cryzel Torture]], a nine-hour-long chatlog in which Wise and Stephen Boyd berate Chris and continue to convince him that his characters were being tortured.

On 19 [[July 2018]], Null posted [[The Bad Beginning]], the first 9 hour and 15 minute long text conversation found in the Idea Guys' Discord server.

===End of Null's involvement===
{{Infobox/video
| name = Summary of Guard Dog Saga (and other commentaries)
| video = {{#ev:youtube|iJXVdmPN9jM}}
| stardate = 26 [[November 2018]]
| Saga = {{Guard Dog|text}}
| other = {{Audio|text}}
}}

Inevitably, Null’s involvement in the "guard dog" saga didn't last long, as Chris' incompetency pushed Null away like so many others before. Null was quickly alienated by Chris due to his refusal to play along with the [[Dimensional Merge]], and as a result, Null lost much of the sympathy he initially held for Chris. In a livestream from [[November 2018]], he stated that he no longer wanted any part of the operation, finding the enabling tiresome. He also reveals that at one point, he had arranged for a moderator who lived near Chris to drive to his home when [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] died so Chris could be swiftly moved into an assisted living facility.

==The 'Teen Troon Squad' reveals themselves==
{{main|Teen Troon Squad#The reveal}}
On 25 [[December 2018]], a person posing as [[Magi-Chan]] posted a tweet linking to a (since taken down) Pastebin, now referred to as "The 'Teen Troon Squad' Reveals Themselves". This Pastebin elaborately doxes Lukas, one of the squad's members, revealing his birth name, home address, and a supposed phone number. Naturally, when the link was first released, there was much speculation as to who had actually written the tweet. Ultimately, it was determined that it had to have been done by someone Chris had trusted with his password; significantly narrowing down the suspect pool. Lukas would later claim that The Captain was responsible for doxxing him.

==See also==
*[[Kiwi Farms]]
*[[Idea Guys]]
*[[The Bad Beginning]]
*[[The Man in the Pickle Suit]]

== Sources ==
<references/>

{{Trolls}}
{{Not_Jerks}}
{{People}}

[[Category:Trolls]]

Talk:Joshua Moon

2019-04-25T22:16:36Z

Thnxbb: /* Article naming */

Isn't Null deserving of an entire article at this point? There's a lot to be covered from the Guard Dog saga.

Maybe so, what'd you have in mind to add? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 08:20, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Forgot to sign my first post, my b lol. The Null article would basically outlining the Guard Dog saga, his plans to pick up Chris at one point, and eventual abandonment of Chris. I've dug up a [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 few posts] that explain the story more in depth and while I could add it all to the Kiwi Farms page, it feels cluttered as it is. Plus, since Null has become personally involved, it just seems more in-line now to give him his own page. [[User:Thnxbb|Thnxbb]] ([[User talk:Thnxbb|talk]]) 14:03, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

:Sounds like a good idea. One suggestion I have would be, rather than having Null as the central focus, the new article could be about the group that ousted the Idea Guys as a whole. That way The Captain and Marvin's contributions can be noted as well. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 22:55, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. [[User:Thnxbb|Thnxbb]] ([[User talk:Thnxbb|talk]]) 08:42, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

:Fantastic work on the article. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 16:48, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

==Article naming==
Should this article be named after only Null? Of the four sections, one is about Null and three are about the group of The Captain, Marvin, and Null. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 16:48, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Midway through, I realized the operations would probably work better as their own independent article; but I wasn't sure what to call it. Maybe the Guard dogs? The new guard? (The old guard being the PVCC) [[User:Thnxbb|Thnxbb]] ([[User talk:Thnxbb|talk]]) 18:43, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

*I'm not sure, either. New guard could work but there'd be a conflict if another guard forms in future. Maybe Inner Circle? Or a plain title like their usernames in alphabetical order, "Marvin, Null, and The Captain"? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 19:11, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

::Did some moving and re-arranging; [[Joshua Moon]] now redirects to [[Null]], and the article has been split off into [[Guard Dogs]] (new sub-section) [[User:Thnxbb|Thnxbb]] ([[User talk:Thnxbb|talk]]) 22:16, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:People

2019-04-25T22:14:03Z

Thnxbb:

{| id="toc" width="70%" style="text-align:left; clear:both;" align=center
|- style="background:#ccccff" align="center" width="95%"
| '''Christian Weston Chandler's people'''
|-
| style="font-size:11px; padding:5px 10px;" |

<big>'''[[Chris]] himself:'''</big>

[[Disguises#Bill Riley|Bill Riley]] |
[[Carlos Chantor]] |
[[Chloe]] |
[[JenkinsJinkies|Junior Jenkins]] |
[[Night Star]] |
[[Women Only Need Apply - No STD's|Stephanie Bustcakes]] |
[[TwiSparLicious]]
----

<big>'''[[Chandler family tree|Family]]:'''</big>

'''[[14 Branchland Court|At home]]:'''
[[Bob Chandler]] |
[[Barbara Chandler]] |
[[Patti Chandler]] |
[[Chandler Cats|The Chandler Cats]] |
[[Clover and Snoopy]]

'''[[Chandler Family Tree|Others]]:'''
[[Anne Boleyn]] |
[[Aunt Corrina]] |
[[Cole Smithey]] |
[[Daniel Weston]] |
[[Minor Family Members]]

'''Future:'''
[[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal Weston Chandler]] |
[[Lovely Weather]] |
[[Reginald Chandler]]

----

<big>'''Friends:'''</big>

'''[[Sweethearts]]:'''
[[Blanca Weiss]] |
[[BlueSpike|Julie]] |
[[Catherine]] |
[[Cryzel and Magi-Chan]]
[[Ivy]] |
[[Kacey]] |
[[Jackie]] |
[[PandaHalo]]

'''Minor sweethearts:'''
[[Emily]] |
[[Two's company snapshots|Faeryn]] |
[[Hanna]] |
[[Jessica Quinn]] |
[[Lori Lopez]] |
[[Sarah Jackson]] |
[[Vanessa Hudgens]]

'''Sweethearts-to-be:'''
[[DoopieDoOver]] |
[[Megan Schroeder]] |
[[The Wallflower]]

'''[[Gal-pals]]:'''
[[Anna McLerran]] |
[[Clare Porter]] |
[[Kellie Andes]] |
[[Kim Wilson]] |
[[Laura Beth Dorazio|Laura Dorazio]] |
[[Sarah Nicole Hammer]] |
[[Tiffany Gowen]]

'''[[White knight]]s:'''
[[Robert Simmons V]] |
[[Kenneth Erwin Englehardt]] |
[[William Elliott Waterman]]

'''[[Guard Dogs]]:'''
[[Null]] |
[[The Captain]] |
[[The Man in the Pickle Suit#The Jew in the Pickle Suit|Marvin]]

'''Others:'''
[[DRWolf]] |
[[Sonichu Girls|Female fanbase]] |
[[Chris and socialization#MLP voice actresses|MLP voice actresses]] |
[[Chris and socialization#In real life|Pokémon club friends]] |
[[Rocky Shoemaker]] |
[[Virginia Jeanine Sanford]]

----

<big>'''[[Trolls]]:'''</big>

'''[[The Miscreants]]:'''
[[TheCWCvilleLibrary|Arjen Van Dierten]] |
[[Bryan Bash]] |
[[Clyde Cash]] |
[[Jack Thaddeus]] |
[[Jason Kendrick Howell]] |
[[Joshua Martinez]] |
[[Liquid Chris]] |
[[Lordsillynipples]] |
[[Man in the Pickle Suit]] |
[[Sarah May]] |
[[Surfshack Tito (troll)|Surfshack Tito]] |
[[Vivian Gee]]

'''The Asperpedia Four:'''
[[Alec Benson Leary]] |
[[Evan Christopher George]] |
[[Mao Ling]] |
[[Sean August Watley]]

'''Famous people:'''
[[BILLY MAYS]] |
[[Jay Z]] |
[[Jimmy Hill]] |
[[Reggie Fils-Aimé]] |
[[Shigeru Miyamoto]] |
[[Takashi Tezuka]]

'''Traitors'''
[[Arthur Spatchcock]] |
[[Bryanfrogboy]] |
[[CWCProtectSquad]] |
[[Idea Guys]] |
[[Jeff/Francine]] |
[[MKRNightVee]] |
[[Teen Troon Squad]]

'''Others:'''
[[Johan]] |
[[LadyOfTheCosmo]] |
[[Sam and Ellen]] |
[[Surfshack Tito (troll)|Surfshack Tito]] |
[[Thorg]]
----

<big>'''Other enemies:'''</big>

'''[[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]]:'''
[[CADD Chef|Kene Meniru]] |
[[Mary Lee Walsh]]

'''[[Jerkop]]s:'''
[[Bagget]] |
[[Jerkhief]]

'''[[Manajerks]]:'''
[[B-Manajerk]] |
[[Merried Seinor Comic|Kirby]] |
[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Chris Expresses His Outrage for Walmart|"Lady" Manajerk]] |
[[Michael Snyder]] |
[[ScotPalazzo]] |
[[Turdijerk]] |
[[W-M-Manajerk]] |
[[Yellow-Shirted Foe]]

'''[[The GAMe PLACe]]:'''
[[Daniel Mimms]] |
[[Lucas]]

'''[[JERKS]]:'''
[[Joseph Herring]] |
[[Wes Iseli]]

'''Others:'''
[[Abusive babysitter]] |
[[Bruce Johnson]] |
[[Kathleen]] |
[[Lulu#Ban and assault threats|Lulu.com executives]] |
[[Pmurt]] |
[[Sonic Boom Protests#Assault threat against Woodley and Frost|Sonic Boom producers]] |
[[Rob Bell]]

----

<big>'''Miscellaneous:'''</big>

'''Famous people:'''
[[Barack Obama]] |
[[George W. Bush]] |
[[John Tesh]] |
[[PewDiePie]] |
[[Red Skelton]] |
[[R.L. Stine]]

'''Orbiters:'''
[[A-Logging|A-Log]] |
[[DStecks]] |
[[Jacob Sockness]] |
[[Michael Hirtes]]

'''Others:'''
[[Adam Stackhouse]] |
[[Caitlin]] |
[[Mia Hamm]] |
[[Ryan Cash]]

'''Inanimate objects/Fictional Characters:'''
[[Kimmi]] |
[[Meg Griffin]] |
[[Naru]] |
[[Officer Nasty]]

|}

<noinclude>{{usage|1=This is a navigational template (navbox) for articles related to the people in Chris's life. The format for using this template is as follows: 

'''<nowiki>{{</nowiki>{{PAGENAME}}<nowiki>}}</nowiki>'''

- Displays:{{ {{PAGENAME}} }}
}}

[[Category:Navigational templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]</noinclude>

Guard Dogs

2019-04-25T22:11:10Z

Thnxbb:

With the revelation that the [[Idea Guys]] were still actively manipulating [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] in early [[2018]], a new effort to systematically dismantle their and other trolling operations began. Now known as the '''"Guard Dogs"''', this group sought to replace the old guard that had once existed before, and hopefully put an end to current-day [[weening]]. This group has since been credited with the outing of both the [[Idea Guys]] and the [[Teen Troon Squad]]. Their efforts have been met with mixed reception. While most on Kiwi Farms praise their rescue of Chris from the Idea Guys' grasps, others criticize the group for being [[White Knight|white knights]].

Prior to the existence of the guard dogs, efforts to monitor Chris' accounts for trolls have existed in the past. However, none were as straightforward to Chris or as elaborate as those of the guard dogs.

==Members==
===Null===
{{main|Null}}
Joshua Moon, also known as Null, is the current owner of [[Kiwi Farms]]. He became involved mid-way through their investigation of the [[Idea Guys]]' [[Discord]], and was largely behind the push for the Idea Guys to face legal repercussions. He has since removed himself from these efforts, however, due to losing sympathy for Chris.

===Marvin===
{{main|The Man in the Pickle Suit}}
Marvin, also known as "The Jew in the Pickle Suit", is a former troll of Chris' who has since stayed to the bylines. Because of his status as an active Christorical figure, however, he's often contacted for advice in both [[trolling]] and [[White Knight|counter-trolling]] efforts.

===The Captain===
The Captain, unlike the other two involved, had no past history with Chris; stating that he only "fell into the whole thing by a matter of association".<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/profile-posts/133208/ Comment on The Captain's Profile]</ref> Little is known about him past this.

==Rescue from the Idea Guys==
In late [[April 2018]], [[Anna McLerran]] contacted [[The Captain]] stating that she was worried Chris was being actively manipulated.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref> She was unable to get any confirmation, however, due to Chris refusing to give any information. In response, "Operation: Kingsnake" began.

===Discovery===
Based off of this information, The Captain began attempting to contact Chris. He was eventually able to gain his trust, but only by playing along to his [[Chris and reality|delusional beliefs]]. Chris then revealed to him that he was in a top-secret [[Discord]] chat with the [[Idea Guys]] on a separate account they had created for him. At this point, with the coaching of [[The Man in the Pickle Suit|Marvin]], The Captain had multiple conversations with Chris in which he attempted to convince him that the Idea Guys were bad people who had only hurt “fake” characters. Chris eventually came to believe him, but only after using his “mind powers”.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref> In response, he gave The Captain full control to his accounts so he could gather evidence against the Idea guys.

===Infiltration===
[[File:IdeaGuyDiscords.jpg|thumb|250px|left|A screenshot by [[The Captain]] revealing the profiles of all the [[Idea Guys]].]]
When The Captain first logged in to Chris’ [[Discord]] account, he was overwhelmed by how far the Idea Guys had gone to take advantage of Chris. Their tactics ranged from extortion, to threats, and even blackmail. He once again went to Marvin with this information. To stall the Idea Guys so they could collect evidence, the two began roleplaying in the server as Chris. This stalling lasted upwards of a week. Whenever the Idea Guys asked The Captain something he didn’t know, The Captain would ask Marvin and Chris for direction and then reply accordingly. At one point during the week, the Idea Guys became suspicious, and asked Chris to post photographic evidence to prove that he was indeed himself. They quickly had Chris take this photograph for them, writing the desired message on a dry erase board. They were also able to collect the IPs of [[Idea Guys#Identities|Wise and Boyd]] using an IP tracer, as well as the IP of a third unidentified Idea Guy.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551849 The Captain reveals the Idea Guys' Discord]</ref> During this time, Chris was told to take a break from the internet for a week, to which he complied. He spent that week catching up on the shows Wise and Boyd had “banned” him from watching, which included [[My Little Pony]] and “nearly everything on Crunchy Roll”.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

Eventually, Marvin managed to build a script that ripped the server's chat logs straight from Discord, archiving the hundreds of pages of the Idea Guys' debauchery. Once all of the images and chat logs had been saved, Chris’ Discord account went unused and remained offline. A couple of days later, Wise and Boyd realized what this new inactivity implied, and began sanitizing the server. They banned Chris from the channel, and deleted every private message they had sent him one by one. For them, however, it was already too late.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

===Extortion===
[[File:IdeaGuyReceipts1.jpg|thumb|250px|Receipts of items Chris bought for Wise and Boyd.]]
{{main|Idea Guys#Extortion}}
{{quote|I get that $6000 isn't the white collar crime that brings down the hammer, but we're talking about unhinged lunatics who are coaxing mentally ill people into punching themselves.|Null, describing his frustrations with law enforcement.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>}}

Midway through their infiltration of the Idea Guys’ [[Discord]], Null was brought into the process. As more information poured in, he personally became involved, filing reports with the FBI, Green County Sheriff, and even calling Boyd’s mother. Chris began taking steps to assist any future investigations, imcluding getting a new phone number, and forwarding Null, Marvin and The Captain any and all suspicious incoming messages. He then gave the three full access to all of his accounts. Chris also began collecting all of his receipts from Food Lion, which he had used to purchase Amazon/GameStop gift cards for the Idea Guys with. He also took screenshots of his GameStop order history to prove that he had purchased and sent PS Vitas and other items to Wise and Boyd’s personal addresses. In total, the Idea Guys extorted approximately $6000 from Chris. This resulted in Chris facing serious monetary issues.

Strangely, to this day law enforcement have yet to act on any of Null’s reports. Green County Sheriff Steven S. Smith refused to act, stating that it was Chris’ choice to shit on the floor. The FBI was sent his IC3 twice (once online, another in-person by Chris) but no action was ever taken. Thus, Wise and Boyd have yet to face any legal repercussions for their extortion and blackmailing of an exceptional individual.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

===E-mail monitoring===
[[File:NullvulgarWeen.jpg|thumb|250px|Null angrily insulting a [[ween]] with racial epithets.]]
[[File:CWC drawing for Joshua Moon.jpg|thumb|250px|The 'dull lull' himself.]]
{{quote|Null has the passwords to the accounts. He checks shit, deletes shit. Chris doesn't act on any messages unless Null gives it the OK first.|Marvin, describing "Operation: Guard dog".<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>}}
After the Idea Guys were successfully removed from power, Chris began speaking to Null, Marvin and The Captain regularly. They began actively monitoring his accounts, with Null personally reviewing all of Chris’ emails.<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref><ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/ OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>
This lead to Chris and the three to speak on very friendly terms, with Chris even drawing Null his very own original [[My Little Pony]] character. They also began coaching Chris on how to better protect his social media, though their efforts were most likely in vain.

===Publication of leaked content===
{{see also|Idea Guys#Gallery of leaked content}}

Null has written and published a handful of articles onto Kiwi Farms regarding the content retrieved during their infiltration of the [[Idea Guys|Idea Guys']] discord server.

On 11 [[July 2018]], Null released his account of the dismantling of the Idea Guys onto Kiwi Farms, dubbing the group “The Chris-Chan Extortionists”. Written for a broader audience, he reveals to what extent the Idea Guys had manipulated Chris, and his frustration with law enforcement’s inaction.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

On 13 [[July 2018]], Null released [[Cryzel Torture]], a nine-hour-long chatlog in which Wise and Stephen Boyd berate Chris and continue to convince him that his characters were being tortured.

On 19 [[July 2018]], Null posted [[The Bad Beginning]], the first 9 hour and 15 minute long text conversation found in the Idea Guys' Discord server.

===End of Null's involvement===
{{Infobox/video
| name = Summary of Guard Dog Saga (and other commentaries)
| video = {{#ev:youtube|iJXVdmPN9jM}}
| stardate = 26 [[November 2018]]
| Saga = {{Guard Dog|text}}
| other = {{Audio|text}}
}}

Inevitably, Null’s involvement in the "guard dog" saga didn't last long, as Chris' incompetency pushed Null away like so many others before. Null was quickly alienated by Chris due to his refusal to play along with the [[Dimensional Merge]], and as a result, Null lost much of the sympathy he initially held for Chris. In a livestream from [[November 2018]], he stated that he no longer wanted any part of the operation, finding the enabling tiresome. He also reveals that at one point, he had arranged for a moderator who lived near Chris to drive to his home when [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] died so Chris could be swiftly moved into an assisted living facility.

==The 'Teen Troon Squad' reveals themselves==
{{main|Teen Troon Squad#The reveal}}
On 25 [[December 2018]], a person posing as [[Magi-Chan]] posted a tweet linking to a (since taken down) Pastebin, now referred to as "The 'Teen Troon Squad' Reveals Themselves". This Pastebin elaborately doxes Lukas, one of the squad's members, revealing his birth name, home address, and a supposed phone number. Naturally, when the link was first released, there was much speculation as to who had actually written the tweet. Ultimately, it was determined that it had to have been done by someone Chris had trusted with his password; significantly narrowing down the suspect pool. Lukas would later claim that The Captain was responsible for doxxing him.

==See also==
*[[Kiwi Farms]]
*[[Idea Guys]]
*[[The Bad Beginning]]
*[[The Man in the Pickle Suit]]

== Sources ==
<references/>

{{Trolls}}
{{Not_Jerks}}
{{People}}

[[Category:Trolls]]

Guard Dogs

2019-04-25T22:10:09Z

Thnxbb: Created page with "With the revelation that the Idea Guys were still actively manipulating Chris in early 2018, a new effort to systematically dismantle the..."

With the revelation that the [[Idea Guys]] were still actively manipulating [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] in early [[2018]], a new effort to systematically dismantle their and other trolling operations began. Now known as the '''"Guard Dogs"''', this group sought to replace the old guard that had once existed before, and hopefully put an end to current-day [[weening]]. This group has since been credited with the outing of both the [[Idea Guys]] and the [[Teen Troon Squad]]. Their efforts have been met with mixed reception. While most on Kiwi Farms praise their rescue of Chris from the Idea Guys' grasps, others criticize the group for being [[White Knight|white knights]].

Prior to the existence of the guard dogs, efforts to monitor Chris' accounts for trolls have existed in the past. However, none were as straightforward to Chris or as elaborate as those of the guard dogs.

==Members==
===Null===
{{main|Null}}
Joshua Moon, also known as Null, is the current owner of [[Kiwi Farms]]. He became involved mid-way through their investigation of the [[Idea Guys]]' [[Discord]], and was largely behind the push for the Idea Guys to face legal repercussions. He has since removed himself from these efforts, however, due to losing sympathy for Chris.

===Marvin===
{{main|The Man in the Pickle Suit}}
Marvin, also known as "The Jew in the Pickle Suit", is a former troll of Chris' who has since stayed to the bylines. Because of his status as an active Christorical figure, however, he's often contacted for advice in both [[trolling]] and [[White Knight|counter-trolling]] efforts.

===The Captain===
The Captain, unlike the other two involved, had no past history with Chris; stating that he only "fell into the whole thing by a matter of association".<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/profile-posts/133208/ Comment on The Captain's Profile]</ref> Little is known about him past this.

==Rescue from the Idea Guys==
In late [[April 2018]], [[Anna McLerran]] contacted [[The Captain]] stating that she was worried Chris was being actively manipulated.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref> She was unable to get any confirmation, however, due to Chris refusing to give any information. In response, "Operation: Kingsnake" began.

===Discovery===
Based off of this information, The Captain began attempting to contact Chris. He was eventually able to gain his trust, but only by playing along to his [[Chris and reality|delusional beliefs]]. Chris then revealed to him that he was in a top-secret [[Discord]] chat with the [[Idea Guys]] on a separate account they had created for him. At this point, with the coaching of [[The Man in the Pickle Suit|Marvin]], The Captain had multiple conversations with Chris in which he attempted to convince him that the Idea Guys were bad people who had only hurt “fake” characters. Chris eventually came to believe him, but only after using his “mind powers”.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref> In response, he gave The Captain full control to his accounts so he could gather evidence against the Idea guys.

===Infiltration===
[[File:IdeaGuyDiscords.jpg|thumb|250px|left|A screenshot by [[The Captain]] revealing the profiles of all the [[Idea Guys]].]]
When The Captain first logged in to Chris’ [[Discord]] account, he was overwhelmed by how far the Idea Guys had gone to take advantage of Chris. Their tactics ranged from extortion, to threats, and even blackmail. He once again went to Marvin with this information. To stall the Idea Guys so they could collect evidence, the two began roleplaying in the server as Chris. This stalling lasted upwards of a week. Whenever the Idea Guys asked The Captain something he didn’t know, The Captain would ask Marvin and Chris for direction and then reply accordingly. At one point during the week, the Idea Guys became suspicious, and asked Chris to post photographic evidence to prove that he was indeed himself. They quickly had Chris take this photograph for them, writing the desired message on a dry erase board. They were also able to collect the IPs of [[Idea Guys#Identities|Wise and Boyd]] using an IP tracer, as well as the IP of a third unidentified Idea Guy.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551849 The Captain reveals the Idea Guys' Discord]</ref> During this time, Chris was told to take a break from the internet for a week, to which he complied. He spent that week catching up on the shows Wise and Boyd had “banned” him from watching, which included [[My Little Pony]] and “nearly everything on Crunchy Roll”.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

Eventually, Marvin managed to build a script that ripped the server's chat logs straight from Discord, archiving the hundreds of pages of the Idea Guys' debauchery. Once all of the images and chat logs had been saved, Chris’ Discord account went unused and remained offline. A couple of days later, Wise and Boyd realized what this new inactivity implied, and began sanitizing the server. They banned Chris from the channel, and deleted every private message they had sent him one by one. For them, however, it was already too late.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

===Extortion===
[[File:IdeaGuyReceipts1.jpg|thumb|250px|Receipts of items Chris bought for Wise and Boyd.]]
{{main|Idea Guys#Extortion}}
{{quote|I get that $6000 isn't the white collar crime that brings down the hammer, but we're talking about unhinged lunatics who are coaxing mentally ill people into punching themselves.|Null, describing his frustrations with law enforcement.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>}}

Midway through their infiltration of the Idea Guys’ [[Discord]], Null was brought into the process. As more information poured in, he personally became involved, filing reports with the FBI, Green County Sheriff, and even calling Boyd’s mother. Chris began taking steps to assist any future investigations, imcluding getting a new phone number, and forwarding Null, Marvin and The Captain any and all suspicious incoming messages. He then gave the three full access to all of his accounts. Chris also began collecting all of his receipts from Food Lion, which he had used to purchase Amazon/GameStop gift cards for the Idea Guys with. He also took screenshots of his GameStop order history to prove that he had purchased and sent PS Vitas and other items to Wise and Boyd’s personal addresses. In total, the Idea Guys extorted approximately $6000 from Chris. This resulted in Chris facing serious monetary issues.

Strangely, to this day law enforcement have yet to act on any of Null’s reports. Green County Sheriff Steven S. Smith refused to act, stating that it was Chris’ choice to shit on the floor. The FBI was sent his IC3 twice (once online, another in-person by Chris) but no action was ever taken. Thus, Wise and Boyd have yet to face any legal repercussions for their extortion and blackmailing of an exceptional individual.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

===E-mail monitoring===
[[File:NullvulgarWeen.jpg|thumb|250px|Null angrily insulting a [[ween]] with racial epithets.]]
[[File:CWC drawing for Joshua Moon.jpg|thumb|250px|The 'dull lull' himself.]]
{{quote|Null has the passwords to the accounts. He checks shit, deletes shit. Chris doesn't act on any messages unless Null gives it the OK first.|Marvin, describing "Operation: Guard dog".<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>}}
After the Idea Guys were successfully removed from power, Chris began speaking to Null, Marvin and The Captain regularly. They began actively monitoring his accounts, with Null personally reviewing all of Chris’ emails.<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref><ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/ OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>
This lead to Chris and the three to speak on very friendly terms, with Chris even drawing Null his very own original [[My Little Pony]] character. They also began coaching Chris on how to better protect his social media, though their efforts were most likely in vain.

===Publication of leaked content===
{{see also|Idea Guys#Gallery of leaked content}}

Null has written and published a handful of articles onto Kiwi Farms regarding the content retrieved during their infiltration of the [[Idea Guys|Idea Guys']] discord server.

On 11 [[July 2018]], Null released his account of the dismantling of the Idea Guys onto Kiwi Farms, dubbing the group “The Chris-Chan Extortionists”. Written for a broader audience, he reveals to what extent the Idea Guys had manipulated Chris, and his frustration with law enforcement’s inaction.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

On 13 [[July 2018]], Null released [[Cryzel Torture]], a nine-hour-long chatlog in which Wise and Stephen Boyd berate Chris and continue to convince him that his characters were being tortured.

On 19 [[July 2018]], Null posted [[The Bad Beginning]], the first 9 hour and 15 minute long text conversation found in the Idea Guys' Discord server.

===End of Null's involvement===
{{Infobox/video
| name = Summary of Guard Dog Saga (and other commentaries)
| video = {{#ev:youtube|iJXVdmPN9jM}}
| stardate = 26 [[November 2018]]
| Saga = {{Guard Dog|text}}
| other = {{Audio|text}}
}}

Inevitably, Null’s involvement in the "guard dog" saga didn't last long, as Chris' incompetency pushed Null away like so many others before. Null was quickly alienated by Chris due to his refusal to play along with the [[Dimensional Merge]], and as a result, Null lost much of the sympathy he initially held for Chris. In a livestream from [[November 2018]], he stated that he no longer wanted any part of the operation, finding the enabling tiresome. He also reveals that at one point, he had arranged for a moderator who lived near Chris to drive to his home when [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] died so Chris could be swiftly moved into an assisted living facility.

==The 'Teen Troon Squad' reveals themselves==
{{main|Teen Troon Squad#The reveal}}
On 25 [[December 2018]], a person posing as [[Magi-Chan]] posted a tweet linking to a (since taken down) Pastebin, now referred to as "The 'Teen Troon Squad' Reveals Themselves". This Pastebin elaborately doxes Lukas, one of the squad's members, revealing his birth name, home address, and a supposed phone number. Naturally, when the link was first released, there was much speculation as to who had actually written the tweet. Ultimately, it was determined that it had to have been done by someone Chris had trusted with his password; significantly narrowing down the suspect pool. Lukas would later claim that The Captain was responsible for doxxing him.

==See also==
*[[Kiwi Farms]]
*[[Idea Guys]]
*[[The Bad Beginning]]
*[[The Man in the Pickle Suit]]

Null

2019-04-25T22:02:30Z

Thnxbb:

Null

2019-04-25T21:55:44Z

Thnxbb: Removed redirect to Joshua Moon

{{Honest}}
{{quote|I systematically dismantled all these people taking advantage of him.|Null, summarizing "Operation: Kingsnake".<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJXVdmPN9jM YouTube - "Null (Owner of Kiwi Farms) talks dismantling Idea Guys"]</ref>}}

{{infobox
| title = Joshua Moon
| image = [[File:JoshuaNull.jpg|250px|center]]
|header1 = Information
|label1 = Name
|data1 = Joshua Moon
|label2 = Also known as
|data2 = "Null"
|label4 = Gender
|data4 = Male
|label6 = [[Chris and race|Race]]
|label5 = Nationality
|data5 = [[United States|American]]
|data6 = White
|label7 = Occupation
|data7 = Owner of [[Kiwi Farms]]
|
}}

'''Joshua Moon''', better known by his online alias '''"Null"''', is the current owner of [[Kiwi Farms]].

During the spring of 2018, Null began acting as [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris']] volunteer advisor, helping him by filtering his email messages to weed out [[ween]] messages from legitimate [[business]] dealings<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/posts/3470913/ Null discussing Chris' legitimate business offers]</ref>, as well as offering advice, such as warning Chris not to invade people's personal space at other conventions after Chris' behavior had gotten him [[banned|kicked out]] of [[TooManyGames]]. He had felt motivated to assist Chris after learning that [[Idea Guy|malicious weens]] had scammed Chris out of enough money to put him at risk of losing his home.<ref name="currenttroll">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-14#post-3468968 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>

==Ownership of Kiwi Farms==
{{quote|I started hosting the CWCki Forums in [[2013]]. Before [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] died, trolling Chris was particularly funny, but after Bob has died, it has become less funny and more miserable every goddamn year.|Null, on Chris' [[weens|current-day trolls]].<ref name="currenttroll">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-14#post-3468968 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>}}
{{main|Kiwi Farms}}
Previously existing as a Chris-focused message board in various iterations, in February 2015 the CWCki Forums was consolidated into the Kiwi Farms, shifting focus away from just Chris. Null is the current owner of the site, though has often referred to Chris as a "dead cow".<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/idea-guy-joshua-wise-manipulating-the-intellecutally-disabled-for-fun-megathread.37132/post-2988715 Null deems Chris a "dead cow"]</ref> Until [[2018]], he rarely interacted directly with Chris.

===Fundraiser===
[[File:BBOSBox.jpg|thumb|200px|The Kiwi Farms care package.]]
[[File:BBOSLetter.jpg|thumb|200px|The smaller items included, including a letter.]]
In 2014, after Chris [[14_Branchland_Court#Destruction_of_the_Chandler_Household|accidentally burned down his house]], Null sympathized, as he himself had suffered a house fire in his youth. He organized a fundraiser on the forum that resulted in several hundred dollars worth of supplies being sent as a care package for Chris to get on his feet again, with the remainder of the amount sent as a money order. Mistakenly thinking that the money order was signed incorrectly (and thus rendered useless), Chris insulted Null by calling him a "[[Wikipedia:Dodo|Dodo]] brain" on Facebook.<ref>[[January 2014 Facebook Posts#Hey, Dodo Brain!]]</ref> In 2017, Chris piled on by tweeting "Null is a dull lull; [[random-access humor|LOL]].<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts]]</ref>"

==Rescue from the Idea Guys==
In late [[April 2018]], [[Anna McLerran]] contacted [[The Captain]] stating that she was worried Chris was being actively manipulated.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref> She was unable to get any confirmation, however, due to Chris refusing to give any information. In response, "Operation: Kingsnake" began.

===Discovery of the Idea Guys===
Based off of this information, The Captain began attempting to contact Chris. He was eventually able to gain his trust, but only by playing along to his [[Chris and reality|delusional beliefs]]. Chris then revealed to him that he was in a top-secret [[Discord]] chat with the [[Idea Guys]] on a separate account they had created for him. At this point, with the coaching of [[The Man in the Pickle Suit|Marvin]], The Captain had multiple conversations with Chris in which he attempted to convince him that the Idea Guys were bad people who had only hurt “fake” characters. Chris eventually came to believe him, but only after using his “mind powers”.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref> In response, he gave The Captain full control to his accounts so he could gather evidence against the Idea guys.

===Infiltration===
[[File:IdeaGuyDiscords.jpg|thumb|250px|left|A screenshot by [[The Captain]] revealing the profiles of all the [[Idea Guys]].]]
When The Captain first logged in to Chris’ [[Discord]] account, he was overwhelmed by how far the Idea Guys had gone to take advantage of Chris. Their tactics ranged from extortion, to threats, and even blackmail. He once again went to Marvin with this information. To stall the Idea Guys so they could collect evidence, the two began roleplaying in the server as Chris. This stalling lasted upwards of a week. Whenever the Idea Guys asked The Captain something he didn’t know, The Captain would ask Marvin and Chris for direction and then reply accordingly. At one point during the week, the Idea Guys became suspicious, and asked Chris to post photographic evidence to prove that he was indeed himself. They quickly had Chris take this photograph for them, writing the desired message on a dry erase board. They were also able to collect the IPs of [[Idea Guys#Identities|Wise and Boyd]] using an IP tracer, as well as the IP of a third unidentified Idea Guy.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551849 The Captain reveals the Idea Guys' Discord]</ref> During this time, Chris was told to take a break from the internet for a week, to which he complied. He spent that week catching up on the shows Wise and Boyd had “banned” him from watching, which included [[My Little Pony]] and “nearly everything on Crunchy Roll”.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

Eventually, Marvin managed to build a script that ripped the server's chat logs straight from Discord, archiving the hundreds of pages of the Idea Guys' debauchery. Once all of the images and chat logs had been saved, Chris’ Discord account went unused and remained offline. A couple of days later, Wise and Boyd realized what this new inactivity implied, and began sanitizing the server. They banned Chris from the channel, and deleted every private message they had sent him one by one. For them, however, it was already too late.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

===Extortion===
[[File:IdeaGuyReceipts1.jpg|thumb|250px|Receipts of items Chris bought for Wise and Boyd.]]
{{main|Idea Guys#Extortion}}
{{quote|I get that $6000 isn't the white collar crime that brings down the hammer, but we're talking about unhinged lunatics who are coaxing mentally ill people into punching themselves.|Null, describing his frustrations with law enforcement.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>}}

Midway through their infiltration of the Idea Guys’ [[Discord]], Null was brought into the process. As more information poured in, he personally became involved, filing reports with the FBI, Green County Sheriff, and even calling Boyd’s mother. Chris began taking steps to assist any future investigations, imcluding getting a new phone number, and forwarding Null, Marvin and The Captain any and all suspicious incoming messages. He then gave the three full access to all of his accounts. Chris also began collecting all of his receipts from Food Lion, which he had used to purchase Amazon/GameStop gift cards for the Idea Guys with. He also took screenshots of his GameStop order history to prove that he had purchased and sent PS Vitas and other items to Wise and Boyd’s personal addresses. In total, the Idea Guys extorted approximately $6000 from Chris. This resulted in Chris facing serious monetary issues.

Strangely, to this day law enforcement have yet to act on any of Null’s reports. Green County Sheriff Steven S. Smith refused to act, stating that it was Chris’ choice to shit on the floor. The FBI was sent his IC3 twice (once online, another in-person by Chris) but no action was ever taken. Thus, Wise and Boyd have yet to face any legal repercussions for their extortion and blackmailing of an exceptional individual.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

==Protection from future trolls==
===E-mail monitoring===
[[File:NullvulgarWeen.jpg|thumb|250px|Null angrily insulting a [[ween]] with racial epithets.]]
[[File:CWC drawing for Joshua Moon.jpg|thumb|250px|The 'dull lull' himself.]]
{{quote|Null has the passwords to the accounts. He checks shit, deletes shit. Chris doesn't act on any messages unless Null gives it the OK first.|Marvin, describing "Operation: Guard dog".<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>}}
After the Idea Guys were successfully removed from power, Chris began speaking to Null, Marvin and The Captain regularly. They began actively monitoring his accounts, with Null personally reviewing all of Chris’ emails.<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref><ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/ OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>
This lead to Chris and the three to speak on very friendly terms, with Chris even drawing Null his very own original [[My Little Pony]] character. They also began coaching Chris on how to better protect his social media, though their efforts were most likely in vain.

===Publications===
{{see also|Idea Guys#Gallery of leaked content}}

Null has written and published a handful of articles onto Kiwi Farms regarding the content retrieved during their infiltration of the [[Idea Guys|Idea Guys']] discord server.

On 11 [[July 2018]], Null released his account of the dismantling of the Idea Guys onto Kiwi Farms, dubbing the group “The Chris-Chan Extortionists”. Written for a broader audience, he reveals to what extent the Idea Guys had manipulated Chris, and his frustration with law enforcement’s inaction.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

On 13 [[July 2018]], Null released [[Cryzel Torture]], a nine-hour-long chatlog in which Wise and Stephen Boyd berate Chris and continue to convince him that his characters were being tortured.

On 19 [[July 2018]], Null posted [[The Bad Beginning]], the first 9 hour and 15 minute long text conversation found in the Idea Guys' Discord server.

===Alienation from Chris===
{{Infobox/video
| name = Summary of Guard Dog Saga (and other commentaries)
| video = {{#ev:youtube|iJXVdmPN9jM}}
| stardate = 26 [[November 2018]]
| Saga = {{Guard Dog|text}}
| other = {{Audio|text}}
}}

Inevitably, Null’s involvement in the "guard dog" saga didn't last long, as Chris' incompetency pushed Null away like so many others before. Null was quickly alienated by Chris due to his refusal to play along with the [[Dimensional Merge]], and as a result, Null lost much of the sympathy he initially held for Chris. In a livestream from [[November 2018]], he stated that he no longer wanted any part of the operation, finding the enabling tiresome. He also reveals that at one point, he had arranged for a moderator who lived near Chris to drive to his home when [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] died so Chris could be swiftly moved into an assisted living facility.

==Later developments==
===The 'Teen Troon Squad' reveals themselves===
{{main|Teen Troon Squad#The reveal}}
On 25 [[December 2018]], a person posing as [[Magi-Chan]] posted a tweet linking to a (since taken down) Pastebin, now referred to as "The 'Teen Troon Squad' Reveals Themselves". This Pastebin elaborately doxes Lukas, one of the squad's members, revealing his birth name, home address, and a supposed phone number. Naturally, when the link was first released, there was much speculation as to who had actually written the tweet. Ultimately, it was determined that it had to have been done by someone Chris had trusted with his password; significantly narrowing down the suspect pool. Lukas would later claim that The Captain was responsible for doxxing him.

==See also==
*[[Kiwi Farms]]
*[[Idea Guys]]
*[[The Bad Beginning]]
*[[The Man in the Pickle Suit]]

== Sources ==
<references/>

{{Trolls}}
{{Not_Jerks}}
{{People}}

[[Category:Trolls]]
[[Category:Real people who have appeared in Sonichu comics]]

Joshua Moon

2019-04-25T21:55:38Z

Thnxbb: Redirected page to Null

#redirect [[Null]]

Talk:Joshua Moon

2019-04-25T18:43:56Z

Thnxbb: /* Article naming */

Isn't Null deserving of an entire article at this point? There's a lot to be covered from the Guard Dog saga.

Maybe so, what'd you have in mind to add? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 08:20, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Forgot to sign my first post, my b lol. The Null article would basically outlining the Guard Dog saga, his plans to pick up Chris at one point, and eventual abandonment of Chris. I've dug up a [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 few posts] that explain the story more in depth and while I could add it all to the Kiwi Farms page, it feels cluttered as it is. Plus, since Null has become personally involved, it just seems more in-line now to give him his own page. [[User:Thnxbb|Thnxbb]] ([[User talk:Thnxbb|talk]]) 14:03, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

:Sounds like a good idea. One suggestion I have would be, rather than having Null as the central focus, the new article could be about the group that ousted the Idea Guys as a whole. That way The Captain and Marvin's contributions can be noted as well. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 22:55, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. [[User:Thnxbb|Thnxbb]] ([[User talk:Thnxbb|talk]]) 08:42, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

:Fantastic work on the article. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 16:48, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

==Article naming==
Should this article be named after only Null? Of the four sections, one is about Null and three are about the group of The Captain, Marvin, and Null. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 16:48, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Midway through, I realized the operations would probably work better as their own independent article; but I wasn't sure what to call it. Maybe the Guard dogs? The new guard? (The old guard being the PVCC) [[User:Thnxbb|Thnxbb]] ([[User talk:Thnxbb|talk]]) 18:43, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Joshua Moon

2019-04-25T14:39:54Z

Thnxbb: /* Protection from future trolls */

Joshua Moon

2019-04-25T13:19:50Z

Thnxbb: /* Rescue from the Idea Guys */

{{Honest}}
{{quote|I systematically dismantled all these people taking advantage of him.|Null, summarizing "Operation: Kingsnake".<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJXVdmPN9jM YouTube - "Null (Owner of Kiwi Farms) talks dismantling Idea Guys"]</ref>}}

{{infobox
| title = Joshua Moon
| image = [[File:JoshuaNull.jpg|250px|center]]
|header1 = Information
|label1 = Name
|data1 = Joshua Moon
|label2 = Also known as
|data2 = "Null"
|label4 = Gender
|data4 = Male
|label6 = [[Chris and race|Race]]
|label5 = Nationality
|data5 = [[United States|American]]
|data6 = White
|label7 = Occupation
|data7 = Owner of [[Kiwi Farms]]
|
}}

'''Joshua Moon''', better known by his online alias '''"Null"''', is the current owner of [[Kiwi Farms]].

During the spring of 2018, Null began acting as [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris']] volunteer advisor, helping him by filtering his email messages to weed out [[ween]] messages from legitimate [[business]] dealings<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/posts/3470913/ Null discussing Chris' legitimate business offers]</ref>, as well as offering advice, such as warning Chris not to invade people's personal space at other conventions after Chris' behavior had gotten him [[banned|kicked out]] of [[TooManyGames]]. He had felt motivated to assist Chris after learning that [[Idea Guy|malicious weens]] had scammed Chris out of enough money to put him at risk of losing his home.<ref name="currenttroll">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-14#post-3468968 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>

==Ownership of Kiwi Farms==
{{quote|I started hosting the CWCki Forums in [[2013]]. Before [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] died, trolling Chris was particularly funny, but after Bob has died, it has become less funny and more miserable every goddamn year.|Null, on Chris' [[weens|current-day trolls]].<ref name="currenttroll">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-14#post-3468968 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>}}
{{main|Kiwi Farms}}
Previously existing as a Chris-focused message board in various iterations, in February 2015 the CWCki Forums was consolidated into the Kiwi Farms, shifting focus away from just Chris. Null is the current owner of the site, though has often referred to Chris as a "dead cow".<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/idea-guy-joshua-wise-manipulating-the-intellecutally-disabled-for-fun-megathread.37132/post-2988715 Null deems Chris a "dead cow"]</ref> Until [[2018]], he rarely interacted directly with Chris.

===Fundraiser===
[[File:BBOSBox.jpg|thumb|200px|The Kiwi Farms care package.]]
[[File:BBOSLetter.jpg|thumb|200px|The smaller items included, including a letter.]]
In 2014, after Chris [[14_Branchland_Court#Destruction_of_the_Chandler_Household|accidentally burned down his house]], Null sympathized, as he himself had suffered a house fire in his youth. He organized a fundraiser on the forum that resulted in several hundred dollars worth of supplies being sent as a care package for Chris to get on his feet again, with the remainder of the amount sent as a money order. Mistakenly thinking that the money order was signed incorrectly (and thus rendered useless), Chris insulted Null by calling him a "[[Wikipedia:Dodo|Dodo]] brain" on Facebook.<ref>[[January 2014 Facebook Posts#Hey, Dodo Brain!]]</ref> In 2017, Chris piled on by tweeting "Null is a dull lull; [[random-access humor|LOL]].<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts]]</ref>"

==Rescue from the Idea Guys==
In late [[April 2018]], [[Anna McLerran]] contacted [[The Captain]] stating that she was worried Chris was being actively manipulated.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref> She was unable to get any confirmation, however, due to Chris refusing to give any information. In response, "Operation: Kingsnake" began.

===Discovery of the Idea Guys===
Based off of this information, The Captain began attempting to contact Chris. He was eventually able to gain his trust, but only by playing along to his [[Chris and reality|delusional beliefs]]. Chris then revealed to him that he was in a top-secret [[Discord]] chat with the [[Idea Guys]] on a separate account they had created for him. At this point, with the coaching of [[The Man in the Pickle Suit|Marvin]], The Captain had multiple conversations with Chris in which he attempted to convince him that the Idea Guys were bad people who had only hurt “fake” characters. Chris eventually came to believe him, but only after using his “mind powers”.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref> In response, he gave The Captain full control to his accounts so he could gather evidence against the Idea guys.

===Infiltration===
[[File:IdeaGuyDiscords.jpg|thumb|250px|left|A screenshot by [[The Captain]] revealing the profiles of all the [[Idea Guys]].]]
When The Captain first logged in to Chris’ [[Discord]] account, he was overwhelmed by how far the Idea Guys had gone to take advantage of Chris. Their tactics ranged from extortion, to threats, and even blackmail. He once again went to Marvin with this information. To stall the Idea Guys so they could collect evidence, the two began roleplaying in the server as Chris. This stalling lasted upwards of a week. Whenever the Idea Guys asked The Captain something he didn’t know, The Captain would ask Marvin and Chris for direction and then reply accordingly. At one point during the week, the Idea Guys became suspicious, and asked Chris to post photographic evidence to prove that he was indeed himself. They quickly had Chris take this photograph for them, writing the desired message on a dry erase board. They were also able to collect the IPs of [[Idea Guys#Identities|Wise and Boyd]] using an IP tracer, as well as the IP of a third unidentified Idea Guy.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551849 The Captain reveals the Idea Guys' Discord]</ref> During this time, Chris was told to take a break from the internet for a week, to which he complied. He spent that week catching up on the shows Wise and Boyd had “banned” him from watching, which included [[My Little Pony]] and “nearly everything on Crunchy Roll”.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

Eventually, Marvin managed to build a script that ripped the server's chat logs straight from Discord, archiving the hundreds of pages of the Idea Guys' debauchery. Once all of the images and chat logs had been saved, Chris’ Discord account went unused and remained offline. A couple of days later, Wise and Boyd realized what this new inactivity implied, and began sanitizing the server. They banned Chris from the channel, and deleted every private message they had sent him one by one. For them, however, it was already too late.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

===Extortion===
[[File:IdeaGuyReceipts1.jpg|thumb|250px|Receipts of items Chris bought for Wise and Boyd.]]
{{main|Idea Guys#Extortion}}
{{quote|I get that $6000 isn't the white collar crime that brings down the hammer, but we're talking about unhinged lunatics who are coaxing mentally ill people into punching themselves.|Null, describing his frustrations with law enforcement.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>}}

Midway through their infiltration of the Idea Guys’ [[Discord]], Null was brought into the process. As more information poured in, he personally became involved, filing reports with the FBI, Green County Sheriff, and even calling Boyd’s mother. Chris began taking steps to assist any future investigations, imcluding getting a new phone number, and forwarding Null, Marvin and The Captain any and all suspicious incoming messages. He then gave the three full access to all of his accounts. Chris also began collecting all of his receipts from Food Lion, which he had used to purchase Amazon/GameStop gift cards for the Idea Guys with. He also took screenshots of his GameStop order history to prove that he had purchased and sent PS Vitas and other items to Wise and Boyd’s personal addresses. In total, the Idea Guys extorted approximately $6000 from Chris. This resulted in Chris facing serious monetary issues.

Strangely, to this day law enforcement have yet to act on any of Null’s reports. Green County Sheriff Steven S. Smith refused to act, stating that it was Chris’ choice to shit on the floor. The FBI was sent his IC3 twice (once online, another in-person by Chris) but no action was ever taken. Thus, Wise and Boyd have yet to face any legal repercussions for their extortion and blackmailing of an exceptional individual.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

==Protection from future trolls==
===Email monitoring===
[[File:NullvulgarWeen.jpg|thumb|250px|Null angrily insulting a [[ween]] with racial epithets.]]
[[File:CWC drawing for Joshua Moon.jpg|thumb|250px|The 'dull lull' himself.]]
{{quote|Null has the passwords to the accounts. He checks shit, deletes shit. Chris doesn't act on any messages unless Null gives it the OK first.|Marvin, describing "Operation: Guard dog".<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>}}
After the Idea Guys were successfully removed from power, Chris began speaking to Null, Marvin and The Captain regularly. They began actively monitoring his accounts, with Null personally reviewing all of Chris’ emails.<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref><ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/ OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>
This lead to Chris and the three to speak on very friendly terms, with Chris even drawing Null his very own original [[My Little Pony]] character. They also began coaching Chris on how to better protect his social media, though their efforts were most likely in vain.

===Publications===
{{see also|Idea Guys#Gallery of leaked content}}

Null has written and published a handful of articles onto Kiwi Farms regarding the content retrieved during their infiltration of the [[Idea Guys|Idea Guys']] discord server.

On 11 [[July 2018]], Null released his account of the dismantling of the Idea Guys onto Kiwi Farms, dubbing the group “The Chris-Chan Extortionists”. Written for a broader audience, he reveals to what extent the Idea Guys had manipulated Chris, and his frustration with law enforcement’s inaction.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

On 13 [[July 2018]], Null released [[Cryzel Torture]], a nine-hour-long chatlog in which Wise and Stephen Boyd berate Chris and continue to convince him that his characters were being tortured.

On 19 [[July 2018]], Null posted [[The Bad Beginning]], the first 9 hour and 15 minute long text conversation found in the Idea Guys' Discord server.

===Alienation from Chris===
{{Infobox/video
| name = Summary of Guard Dog Saga (and other commentaries)
| video = {{#ev:youtube|iJXVdmPN9jM}}
| stardate = 26 [[November 2018]]
| Saga = {{Guard Dog|text}}
| other = {{Audio|text}}
}}

Inevitably, Null’s involvement in the "guard dog" saga didn't last long, as Chris' incompetency pushed Null away like so many others before. Null was quickly alienated by Chris due to his refusal to play along with the [[Dimensional Merge]], and as a result, Null lost much of the sympathy he initially held for Chris. In a livestream from [[November 2018]], he stated that he no longer wanted any part of the operation, finding the enabling tiresome. He also reveals that at one point, he had arranged for a moderator who lived near Chris to drive to his home when [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] died so Chris could be swiftly moved into an assisted living facility.

==Later developments==
===The 'Teen Troon Squad' reveals themselves===
{{main|Teen Troon Squad#The reveal}}
On 25 [[December 2018]], a person posing as [[Magi-Chan]] posted a tweet linking to a (since taken down) Pastebin, now referred to as "The 'Teen Troon Squad' Reveals Themselves". This Pastebin elaborately doxes Lukas, one of the squad's members, revealing his birth name, home address, and a supposed phone number. Naturally, when the link was first released, there was much speculation as to who had actually written the tweet. Ultimately, it was determined that it had to have been done by someone Chris had trusted with his password; significantly narrowing down the suspect pool. Lukas would later claim that The Captain was responsible for doxxing him.

==See also==
*[[Kiwi Farms]]
*[[Idea Guys]]
*[[The Bad Beginning]]
*[[The Man in the Pickle Suit]]

== Sources ==
<references/>

{{Trolls}}
{{Not_Jerks}}
{{People}}

[[Category:Trolls]]
[[Category:Real people who have appeared in Sonichu comics]]

Null

2019-04-25T13:18:08Z

Thnxbb: Changed redirect target from Kiwi Farms#Null to Joshua Moon

#redirect [[Joshua Moon]]

Template:People

2019-04-25T13:17:34Z

Thnxbb:

{| id="toc" width="70%" style="text-align:left; clear:both;" align=center
|- style="background:#ccccff" align="center" width="95%"
| '''Christian Weston Chandler's people'''
|-
| style="font-size:11px; padding:5px 10px;" |

<big>'''[[Chris]] himself:'''</big>

[[Disguises#Bill Riley|Bill Riley]] |
[[Carlos Chantor]] |
[[Chloe]] |
[[JenkinsJinkies|Junior Jenkins]] |
[[Night Star]] |
[[Women Only Need Apply - No STD's|Stephanie Bustcakes]] |
[[TwiSparLicious]]
----

<big>'''[[Chandler family tree|Family]]:'''</big>

'''[[14 Branchland Court|At home]]:'''
[[Bob Chandler]] |
[[Barbara Chandler]] |
[[Patti Chandler]] |
[[Chandler Cats|The Chandler Cats]] |
[[Clover and Snoopy]]

'''[[Chandler Family Tree|Others]]:'''
[[Anne Boleyn]] |
[[Aunt Corrina]] |
[[Cole Smithey]] |
[[Daniel Weston]] |
[[Minor Family Members]] |

'''Future:'''
[[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal Weston Chandler]] |
[[Lovely Weather]] |
[[Reginald Chandler]]

----

<big>'''Friends:'''</big>

'''[[Sweethearts]]:'''
[[Blanca Weiss]] |
[[BlueSpike|Julie]] |
[[Catherine]] |
[[Cryzel and Magi-Chan]]
[[Ivy]] |
[[Kacey]] |
[[Jackie]] |
[[PandaHalo]] |

'''Minor sweethearts:'''
[[Emily]] |
[[Two's company snapshots|Faeryn]] |
[[Hanna]] |
[[Jessica Quinn]] |
[[Lori Lopez]] |
[[Sarah Jackson]] |
[[Vanessa Hudgens]] |

'''Sweethearts-to-be:'''
[[DoopieDoOver]] |
[[Megan Schroeder]] |
[[The Wallflower]] |

'''[[Gal-pals]]:'''
[[Anna McLerran]] |
[[Clare Porter]] |
[[Kellie Andes]] |
[[Kim Wilson]] |
[[Laura Beth Dorazio|Laura Dorazio]] |
[[Sarah Nicole Hammer]] |
[[Tiffany Gowen]] |

'''[[White knights]]:'''
[[Robert Simmons V]] |
[[Kenneth Erwin Englehardt]] |
[[William Elliott Waterman]] |
[[Joshua Moon|Null]] |
[[The Captain]]

'''Others:'''
[[DRWolf]] |
[[Sonichu Girls|Female fanbase]] |
[[Chris and socialization#MLP voice actresses|MLP voice actresses]] |
[[Chris and socialization#In real life|Pokémon club friends]] |
[[Rocky Shoemaker]] |
[[Virginia Jeanine Sanford]]

----

<big>'''[[Trolls]]:'''</big>

'''[[The Miscreants]]:'''
[[TheCWCvilleLibrary|Arjen Van Dierten]] |
[[Bryan Bash]] |
[[Clyde Cash]] |
[[Jack Thaddeus]] |
[[Jason Kendrick Howell]] |
[[Joshua Martinez]] |
[[Liquid Chris]] |
[[Lordsillynipples]] |
[[Man in the Pickle Suit]] |
[[Sarah May]] |
[[Surfshack Tito (troll)|Surfshack Tito]] |
[[Vivian Gee]]

'''The Asperpedia Four:'''
[[Alec Benson Leary]] |
[[Evan Christopher George]] |
[[Mao Ling]] |
[[Sean August Watley]]

'''Famous people:'''
[[BILLY MAYS]] |
[[Jay Z]] |
[[Jimmy Hill]] |
[[Reggie Fils-Aimé]] |
[[Shigeru Miyamoto]] |
[[Takashi Tezuka]]

'''Traitors'''
[[Arthur Spatchcock]] |
[[Bryanfrogboy]] |
[[CWCProtectSquad]] |
[[Idea Guys]] |
[[Jeff/Francine]] |
[[MKRNightVee]] |
[[Teen Troon Squad]] |

'''Others:'''
[[Johan]] |
[[LadyOfTheCosmo]] |
[[Sam and Ellen]] |
[[Surfshack Tito (troll)|Surfshack Tito]] |
[[Thorg]] |
----

<big>'''Other enemies:'''</big>

'''[[Piedmont Virginia Community College|PVCC]]:'''
[[CADD Chef|Kene Meniru]] |
[[Mary Lee Walsh]]

'''[[Jerkop]]s:'''
[[Bagget]] |
[[Jerkhief]]

'''[[Manajerks]]:'''
[[B-Manajerk]] |
[[Merried Seinor Comic|Kirby]] |
[[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Chris Expresses His Outrage for Walmart|"Lady" Manajerk]] |
[[Michael Snyder]] |
[[ScotPalazzo]] |
[[Turdijerk]] |
[[W-M-Manajerk]] |
[[Yellow-Shirted Foe]]

'''[[The GAMe PLACe]]:'''
[[Daniel Mimms]] |
[[Lucas]]

'''[[JERKS]]:'''
[[Joseph Herring]] |
[[Wes Iseli]]

'''Others:'''
[[Abusive babysitter]] |
[[Bruce Johnson]] |
[[Kathleen]] |
[[Lulu#Ban and assault threats|Lulu.com executives]] |
[[Pmurt]] |
[[Sonic Boom Protests#Assault threat against Woodley and Frost|Sonic Boom producers]] |
[[Rob Bell]]

----

<big>'''Miscellaneous:'''</big>

'''Famous people:'''
[[Barack Obama]] |
[[George W. Bush]] |
[[John Tesh]] |
[[PewDiePie]] |
[[Red Skelton]] |
[[R.L. Stine]]

'''Orbiters:'''
[[A-Logging|A-Log]] |
[[DStecks]] |
[[Jacob Sockness]] |
[[Michael Hirtes]]

'''Others:'''
[[Adam Stackhouse]] |
[[Caitlin]] |
[[Mia Hamm]] |
[[Ryan Cash]]

'''Inanimate objects/Fictional Characters:'''
[[Kimmi]] |
[[Meg Griffin]] |
[[Naru]] |
[[Officer Nasty]]

|}

<noinclude>{{usage|1=This is a navigational template (navbox) for articles related to the people in Chris's life. The format for using this template is as follows: 

'''<nowiki>{{</nowiki>{{PAGENAME}}<nowiki>}}</nowiki>'''

- Displays:{{ {{PAGENAME}} }}
}}

[[Category:Navigational templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]</noinclude>

Joshua Moon

2019-04-25T09:55:31Z

Thnxbb: /* Alienation from Chris */

{{Honest}}
{{quote|I systematically dismantled all these people taking advantage of him.|Null, summarizing "Operation: Kingsnake".<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJXVdmPN9jM YouTube - "Null (Owner of Kiwi Farms) talks dismantling Idea Guys"]</ref>}}

{{infobox
| title = Joshua Moon
| image = [[File:JoshuaNull.jpg|250px|center]]
|header1 = Information
|label1 = Name
|data1 = Joshua Moon
|label2 = Also known as
|data2 = "Null"
|label4 = Gender
|data4 = Male
|label6 = [[Chris and race|Race]]
|label5 = Nationality
|data5 = [[United States|American]]
|data6 = White
|label7 = Occupation
|data7 = Owner of [[Kiwi Farms]]
|
}}

'''Joshua Moon''', better known by his online alias '''"Null"''', is the current owner of [[Kiwi Farms]].

During the spring of 2018, Null began acting as [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris']] volunteer advisor, helping him by filtering his email messages to weed out [[ween]] messages from legitimate [[business]] dealings<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/posts/3470913/ Null discussing Chris' legitimate business offers]</ref>, as well as offering advice, such as warning Chris not to invade people's personal space at other conventions after Chris' behavior had gotten him [[banned|kicked out]] of [[TooManyGames]]. He had felt motivated to assist Chris after learning that [[Idea Guy|malicious weens]] had scammed Chris out of enough money to put him at risk of losing his home.<ref name="currenttroll">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-14#post-3468968 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>

==Ownership of Kiwi Farms==
{{quote|I started hosting the CWCki Forums in [[2013]]. Before [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] died, trolling Chris was particularly funny, but after Bob has died, it has become less funny and more miserable every goddamn year.|Null, on Chris' [[weens|current-day trolls]].<ref name="currenttroll">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-14#post-3468968 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>}}
{{main|Kiwi Farms}}
Previously existing as a Chris-focused message board in various iterations, in February 2015 the CWCki Forums was consolidated into the Kiwi Farms, shifting focus away from just Chris. Null is the current owner of the site, though has often referred to Chris as a "dead cow".<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/idea-guy-joshua-wise-manipulating-the-intellecutally-disabled-for-fun-megathread.37132/post-2988715 Null deems Chris a "dead cow"]</ref> Until [[2018]], he rarely interacted directly with Chris.

===Fundraiser===
[[File:BBOSBox.jpg|thumb|200px|The Kiwi Farms care package.]]
[[File:BBOSLetter.jpg|thumb|200px|The smaller items included, including a letter.]]
In 2014, after Chris [[14_Branchland_Court#Destruction_of_the_Chandler_Household|accidentally burned down his house]], Null sympathized, as he himself had suffered a house fire in his youth. He organized a fundraiser on the forum that resulted in several hundred dollars worth of supplies being sent as a care package for Chris to get on his feet again, with the remainder of the amount sent as a money order. Mistakenly thinking that the money order was signed incorrectly (and thus rendered useless), Chris insulted Null by calling him a "[[Wikipedia:Dodo|Dodo]] brain" on Facebook.<ref>[[January 2014 Facebook Posts#Hey, Dodo Brain!]]</ref> In 2017, Chris piled on by tweeting "Null is a dull lull; [[random-access humor|LOL]].<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts]]</ref>"

==Rescue from the Idea Guys==
In late [[April 2018]], [[Anna McLerran]] contacted [[The Captain]] stating that she was worried Chris was being actively manipulated.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref> She was unable to get any confirmation, however, due to Chris refusing to give any information. In response, "Operation Kingsnake" began.

===Discovery of the Idea Guys===
Based off of this information, The Captain began attempting to contact Chris. He was eventually able to gain his trust, but only by playing along to his [[Chris and reality|delusional beliefs]]. Chris then revealed to him that he was in a top-secret [[Discord]] chat with the [[Idea Guys]] on a separate account they had created for him. At this point, with the coaching of [[The Man in the Pickle Suit|Marvin]], The Captain had multiple conversations with Chris in which he attempted to convince him that the Idea Guys were bad people who had only hurt “fake” characters. Chris eventually came to believe him, but only after using his “mind powers”.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref> In response, he gave The Captain full control to his accounts so he could gather evidence against the Idea guys.

===Infiltration===
[[File:IdeaGuyDiscords.jpg|thumb|250px|left|A screenshot by [[The Captain]] revealing the profiles of all the [[Idea Guys]].]]
When The Captain first logged in to Chris’ [[Discord]] account, he was overwhelmed by how far the Idea Guys had gone to take advantage of Chris. Their tactics ranged from extortion, to threats, and even blackmail. He once again went to Marvin with this information. To stall the Idea Guys so they could collect evidence, the two began roleplaying in the server as Chris. This stalling lasted upwards of a week. Whenever the Idea Guys asked The Captain something he didn’t know, The Captain would ask Marvin and Chris for direction and then reply accordingly. At one point during the week, the Idea Guys became suspicious, and asked Chris to post photographic evidence to prove that he was indeed himself. They quickly had Chris take this photograph for them, writing the desired message on a dry erase board. They were also able to collect the IPs of [[Idea Guys#Identities|Wise and Boyd]] using an IP tracer, as well as the IP of a third unidentified Idea Guy.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551849 The Captain reveals the Idea Guys' Discord]</ref> During this time, Chris was told to take a break from the internet for a week, to which he complied. He spent that week catching up on the shows Wise and Boyd had “banned” him from watching, which included [[My Little Pony]] and “nearly everything on Crunchy Roll”.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

Eventually, Marvin managed to build a script that ripped the server's chat logs straight from Discord, archiving the hundreds of pages of the Idea Guys' debauchery. Once all of the images and chat logs had been saved, Chris’ Discord account went unused and remained offline. A couple of days later, Wise and Boyd realized what this new inactivity implied, and began sanitizing the server. They banned Chris from the channel, and deleted every private message they had sent him one by one. For them, however, it was already too late.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

===Extortion===
[[File:IdeaGuyReceipts1.jpg|thumb|250px|Receipts of items Chris bought for Wise and Boyd.]]
{{main|Idea Guys#Extortion}}
{{quote|I get that $6000 isn't the white collar crime that brings down the hammer, but we're talking about unhinged lunatics who are coaxing mentally ill people into punching themselves.|Null, describing his frustrations with law enforcement.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>}}

Midway through their infiltration of the Idea Guys’ [[Discord]], Null was brought into the process. As more information poured in, he personally became involved, filing reports with the FBI, Green County Sheriff, and even calling Boyd’s mother. Chris began taking steps to assist any future investigations, imcluding getting a new phone number, and forwarding Null, Marvin and The Captain any and all suspicious incoming messages. He then gave the three full access to all of his accounts. Chris also began collecting all of his receipts from Food Lion, which he had used to purchase Amazon/GameStop gift cards for the Idea Guys with. He also took screenshots of his GameStop order history to prove that he had purchased and sent PS Vitas and other items to Wise and Boyd’s personal addresses. In total, the Idea Guys extorted approximately $6000 from Chris. This resulted in Chris facing serious monetary issues.

Strangely, to this day law enforcement have yet to act on any of Null’s reports. Green County Sheriff Steven S. Smith refused to act, stating that it was Chris’ choice to shit on the floor. The FBI was sent his IC3 twice (once online, another in-person by Chris) but no action was ever taken. Thus, Wise and Boyd have yet to face any legal repercussions for their extortion and blackmailing of an exceptional individual.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

==Protection from future trolls==
===Email monitoring===
[[File:NullvulgarWeen.jpg|thumb|250px|Null angrily insulting a [[ween]] with racial epithets.]]
[[File:CWC drawing for Joshua Moon.jpg|thumb|250px|The 'dull lull' himself.]]
{{quote|Null has the passwords to the accounts. He checks shit, deletes shit. Chris doesn't act on any messages unless Null gives it the OK first.|Marvin, describing "Operation: Guard dog".<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>}}
After the Idea Guys were successfully removed from power, Chris began speaking to Null, Marvin and The Captain regularly. They began actively monitoring his accounts, with Null personally reviewing all of Chris’ emails.<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref><ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/ OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>
This lead to Chris and the three to speak on very friendly terms, with Chris even drawing Null his very own original [[My Little Pony]] character. They also began coaching Chris on how to better protect his social media, though their efforts were most likely in vain.

===Publications===
{{see also|Idea Guys#Gallery of leaked content}}

Null has written and published a handful of articles onto Kiwi Farms regarding the content retrieved during their infiltration of the [[Idea Guys|Idea Guys']] discord server.

On 11 [[July 2018]], Null released his account of the dismantling of the Idea Guys onto Kiwi Farms, dubbing the group “The Chris-Chan Extortionists”. Written for a broader audience, he reveals to what extent the Idea Guys had manipulated Chris, and his frustration with law enforcement’s inaction.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

On 13 [[July 2018]], Null released [[Cryzel Torture]], a nine-hour-long chatlog in which Wise and Stephen Boyd berate Chris and continue to convince him that his characters were being tortured.

On 19 [[July 2018]], Null posted [[The Bad Beginning]], the first 9 hour and 15 minute long text conversation found in the Idea Guys' Discord server.

===Alienation from Chris===
{{Infobox/video
| name = Summary of Guard Dog Saga (and other commentaries)
| video = {{#ev:youtube|iJXVdmPN9jM}}
| stardate = 26 [[November 2018]]
| Saga = {{Guard Dog|text}}
| other = {{Audio|text}}
}}

Inevitably, Null’s involvement in the "guard dog" saga didn't last long, as Chris' incompetency pushed Null away like so many others before. Null was quickly alienated by Chris due to his refusal to play along with the [[Dimensional Merge]], and as a result, Null lost much of the sympathy he initially held for Chris. In a livestream from [[November 2018]], he stated that he no longer wanted any part of the operation, finding the enabling tiresome. He also reveals that at one point, he had arranged for a moderator who lived near Chris to drive to his home when [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] died so Chris could be swiftly moved into an assisted living facility.

==Later developments==
===The 'Teen Troon Squad' reveals themselves===
{{main|Teen Troon Squad#The reveal}}
On 25 [[December 2018]], a person posing as [[Magi-Chan]] posted a tweet linking to a (since taken down) Pastebin, now referred to as "The 'Teen Troon Squad' Reveals Themselves". This Pastebin elaborately doxes Lukas, one of the squad's members, revealing his birth name, home address, and a supposed phone number. Naturally, when the link was first released, there was much speculation as to who had actually written the tweet. Ultimately, it was determined that it had to have been done by someone Chris had trusted with his password; significantly narrowing down the suspect pool. Lukas would later claim that The Captain was responsible for doxxing him.

==See also==
*[[Kiwi Farms]]
*[[Idea Guys]]
*[[The Bad Beginning]]
*[[The Man in the Pickle Suit]]

== Sources ==
<references/>

{{Trolls}}
{{Not_Jerks}}
{{People}}

[[Category:Trolls]]
[[Category:Real people who have appeared in Sonichu comics]]

Joshua Moon

2019-04-25T09:55:02Z

Thnxbb: /* Alienation from Chris */

{{Honest}}
{{quote|I systematically dismantled all these people taking advantage of him.|Null, summarizing "Operation: Kingsnake".<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJXVdmPN9jM YouTube - "Null (Owner of Kiwi Farms) talks dismantling Idea Guys"]</ref>}}

{{infobox
| title = Joshua Moon
| image = [[File:JoshuaNull.jpg|250px|center]]
|header1 = Information
|label1 = Name
|data1 = Joshua Moon
|label2 = Also known as
|data2 = "Null"
|label4 = Gender
|data4 = Male
|label6 = [[Chris and race|Race]]
|label5 = Nationality
|data5 = [[United States|American]]
|data6 = White
|label7 = Occupation
|data7 = Owner of [[Kiwi Farms]]
|
}}

'''Joshua Moon''', better known by his online alias '''"Null"''', is the current owner of [[Kiwi Farms]].

During the spring of 2018, Null began acting as [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris']] volunteer advisor, helping him by filtering his email messages to weed out [[ween]] messages from legitimate [[business]] dealings<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/posts/3470913/ Null discussing Chris' legitimate business offers]</ref>, as well as offering advice, such as warning Chris not to invade people's personal space at other conventions after Chris' behavior had gotten him [[banned|kicked out]] of [[TooManyGames]]. He had felt motivated to assist Chris after learning that [[Idea Guy|malicious weens]] had scammed Chris out of enough money to put him at risk of losing his home.<ref name="currenttroll">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-14#post-3468968 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>

==Ownership of Kiwi Farms==
{{quote|I started hosting the CWCki Forums in [[2013]]. Before [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] died, trolling Chris was particularly funny, but after Bob has died, it has become less funny and more miserable every goddamn year.|Null, on Chris' [[weens|current-day trolls]].<ref name="currenttroll">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-14#post-3468968 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>}}
{{main|Kiwi Farms}}
Previously existing as a Chris-focused message board in various iterations, in February 2015 the CWCki Forums was consolidated into the Kiwi Farms, shifting focus away from just Chris. Null is the current owner of the site, though has often referred to Chris as a "dead cow".<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/idea-guy-joshua-wise-manipulating-the-intellecutally-disabled-for-fun-megathread.37132/post-2988715 Null deems Chris a "dead cow"]</ref> Until [[2018]], he rarely interacted directly with Chris.

===Fundraiser===
[[File:BBOSBox.jpg|thumb|200px|The Kiwi Farms care package.]]
[[File:BBOSLetter.jpg|thumb|200px|The smaller items included, including a letter.]]
In 2014, after Chris [[14_Branchland_Court#Destruction_of_the_Chandler_Household|accidentally burned down his house]], Null sympathized, as he himself had suffered a house fire in his youth. He organized a fundraiser on the forum that resulted in several hundred dollars worth of supplies being sent as a care package for Chris to get on his feet again, with the remainder of the amount sent as a money order. Mistakenly thinking that the money order was signed incorrectly (and thus rendered useless), Chris insulted Null by calling him a "[[Wikipedia:Dodo|Dodo]] brain" on Facebook.<ref>[[January 2014 Facebook Posts#Hey, Dodo Brain!]]</ref> In 2017, Chris piled on by tweeting "Null is a dull lull; [[random-access humor|LOL]].<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts]]</ref>"

==Rescue from the Idea Guys==
In late [[April 2018]], [[Anna McLerran]] contacted [[The Captain]] stating that she was worried Chris was being actively manipulated.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref> She was unable to get any confirmation, however, due to Chris refusing to give any information. In response, "Operation Kingsnake" began.

===Discovery of the Idea Guys===
Based off of this information, The Captain began attempting to contact Chris. He was eventually able to gain his trust, but only by playing along to his [[Chris and reality|delusional beliefs]]. Chris then revealed to him that he was in a top-secret [[Discord]] chat with the [[Idea Guys]] on a separate account they had created for him. At this point, with the coaching of [[The Man in the Pickle Suit|Marvin]], The Captain had multiple conversations with Chris in which he attempted to convince him that the Idea Guys were bad people who had only hurt “fake” characters. Chris eventually came to believe him, but only after using his “mind powers”.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref> In response, he gave The Captain full control to his accounts so he could gather evidence against the Idea guys.

===Infiltration===
[[File:IdeaGuyDiscords.jpg|thumb|250px|left|A screenshot by [[The Captain]] revealing the profiles of all the [[Idea Guys]].]]
When The Captain first logged in to Chris’ [[Discord]] account, he was overwhelmed by how far the Idea Guys had gone to take advantage of Chris. Their tactics ranged from extortion, to threats, and even blackmail. He once again went to Marvin with this information. To stall the Idea Guys so they could collect evidence, the two began roleplaying in the server as Chris. This stalling lasted upwards of a week. Whenever the Idea Guys asked The Captain something he didn’t know, The Captain would ask Marvin and Chris for direction and then reply accordingly. At one point during the week, the Idea Guys became suspicious, and asked Chris to post photographic evidence to prove that he was indeed himself. They quickly had Chris take this photograph for them, writing the desired message on a dry erase board. They were also able to collect the IPs of [[Idea Guys#Identities|Wise and Boyd]] using an IP tracer, as well as the IP of a third unidentified Idea Guy.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551849 The Captain reveals the Idea Guys' Discord]</ref> During this time, Chris was told to take a break from the internet for a week, to which he complied. He spent that week catching up on the shows Wise and Boyd had “banned” him from watching, which included [[My Little Pony]] and “nearly everything on Crunchy Roll”.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

Eventually, Marvin managed to build a script that ripped the server's chat logs straight from Discord, archiving the hundreds of pages of the Idea Guys' debauchery. Once all of the images and chat logs had been saved, Chris’ Discord account went unused and remained offline. A couple of days later, Wise and Boyd realized what this new inactivity implied, and began sanitizing the server. They banned Chris from the channel, and deleted every private message they had sent him one by one. For them, however, it was already too late.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

===Extortion===
[[File:IdeaGuyReceipts1.jpg|thumb|250px|Receipts of items Chris bought for Wise and Boyd.]]
{{main|Idea Guys#Extortion}}
{{quote|I get that $6000 isn't the white collar crime that brings down the hammer, but we're talking about unhinged lunatics who are coaxing mentally ill people into punching themselves.|Null, describing his frustrations with law enforcement.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>}}

Midway through their infiltration of the Idea Guys’ [[Discord]], Null was brought into the process. As more information poured in, he personally became involved, filing reports with the FBI, Green County Sheriff, and even calling Boyd’s mother. Chris began taking steps to assist any future investigations, imcluding getting a new phone number, and forwarding Null, Marvin and The Captain any and all suspicious incoming messages. He then gave the three full access to all of his accounts. Chris also began collecting all of his receipts from Food Lion, which he had used to purchase Amazon/GameStop gift cards for the Idea Guys with. He also took screenshots of his GameStop order history to prove that he had purchased and sent PS Vitas and other items to Wise and Boyd’s personal addresses. In total, the Idea Guys extorted approximately $6000 from Chris. This resulted in Chris facing serious monetary issues.

Strangely, to this day law enforcement have yet to act on any of Null’s reports. Green County Sheriff Steven S. Smith refused to act, stating that it was Chris’ choice to shit on the floor. The FBI was sent his IC3 twice (once online, another in-person by Chris) but no action was ever taken. Thus, Wise and Boyd have yet to face any legal repercussions for their extortion and blackmailing of an exceptional individual.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

==Protection from future trolls==
===Email monitoring===
[[File:NullvulgarWeen.jpg|thumb|250px|Null angrily insulting a [[ween]] with racial epithets.]]
[[File:CWC drawing for Joshua Moon.jpg|thumb|250px|The 'dull lull' himself.]]
{{quote|Null has the passwords to the accounts. He checks shit, deletes shit. Chris doesn't act on any messages unless Null gives it the OK first.|Marvin, describing "Operation: Guard dog".<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>}}
After the Idea Guys were successfully removed from power, Chris began speaking to Null, Marvin and The Captain regularly. They began actively monitoring his accounts, with Null personally reviewing all of Chris’ emails.<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref><ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/ OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>
This lead to Chris and the three to speak on very friendly terms, with Chris even drawing Null his very own original [[My Little Pony]] character. They also began coaching Chris on how to better protect his social media, though their efforts were most likely in vain.

===Publications===
{{see also|Idea Guys#Gallery of leaked content}}

Null has written and published a handful of articles onto Kiwi Farms regarding the content retrieved during their infiltration of the [[Idea Guys|Idea Guys']] discord server.

On 11 [[July 2018]], Null released his account of the dismantling of the Idea Guys onto Kiwi Farms, dubbing the group “The Chris-Chan Extortionists”. Written for a broader audience, he reveals to what extent the Idea Guys had manipulated Chris, and his frustration with law enforcement’s inaction.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

On 13 [[July 2018]], Null released [[Cryzel Torture]], a nine-hour-long chatlog in which Wise and Stephen Boyd berate Chris and continue to convince him that his characters were being tortured.

On 19 [[July 2018]], Null posted [[The Bad Beginning]], the first 9 hour and 15 minute long text conversation found in the Idea Guys' Discord server.

===Alienation from Chris===
{{Infobox/video
| name = Summary of Guard Dog Saga (and other commentaries)
| video = {{#ev:youtube|iJXVdmPN9jM}}
| stardate = 26 [[November 2018]]
| Saga = {{Guard Dog|text}}
| other = {{Audio|text}}
}}

Inevitably, Null’s involvement in the Guarddog saga didn't last long, as Chris' incompetency pushed Null away like so many others before. Null was quickly alienated by Chris due to his refusal to play along with the [[Dimensional Merge]], and as a result, Null lost much of the sympathy he initially held for Chris. In a livestream from [[November 2018]], he stated that he no longer wanted any part of the operation, finding the enabling tiresome. He also reveals that at one point, he had arranged for a moderator who lived near Chris to drive to his home when [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] died so Chris could be swiftly moved into an assisted living facility.

==Later developments==
===The 'Teen Troon Squad' reveals themselves===
{{main|Teen Troon Squad#The reveal}}
On 25 [[December 2018]], a person posing as [[Magi-Chan]] posted a tweet linking to a (since taken down) Pastebin, now referred to as "The 'Teen Troon Squad' Reveals Themselves". This Pastebin elaborately doxes Lukas, one of the squad's members, revealing his birth name, home address, and a supposed phone number. Naturally, when the link was first released, there was much speculation as to who had actually written the tweet. Ultimately, it was determined that it had to have been done by someone Chris had trusted with his password; significantly narrowing down the suspect pool. Lukas would later claim that The Captain was responsible for doxxing him.

==See also==
*[[Kiwi Farms]]
*[[Idea Guys]]
*[[The Bad Beginning]]
*[[The Man in the Pickle Suit]]

== Sources ==
<references/>

{{Trolls}}
{{Not_Jerks}}
{{People}}

[[Category:Trolls]]
[[Category:Real people who have appeared in Sonichu comics]]

Joshua Moon

2019-04-25T09:52:45Z

Thnxbb: /* Email monitoring */

{{Honest}}
{{quote|I systematically dismantled all these people taking advantage of him.|Null, summarizing "Operation: Kingsnake".<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJXVdmPN9jM YouTube - "Null (Owner of Kiwi Farms) talks dismantling Idea Guys"]</ref>}}

{{infobox
| title = Joshua Moon
| image = [[File:JoshuaNull.jpg|250px|center]]
|header1 = Information
|label1 = Name
|data1 = Joshua Moon
|label2 = Also known as
|data2 = "Null"
|label4 = Gender
|data4 = Male
|label6 = [[Chris and race|Race]]
|label5 = Nationality
|data5 = [[United States|American]]
|data6 = White
|label7 = Occupation
|data7 = Owner of [[Kiwi Farms]]
|
}}

'''Joshua Moon''', better known by his online alias '''"Null"''', is the current owner of [[Kiwi Farms]].

During the spring of 2018, Null began acting as [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris']] volunteer advisor, helping him by filtering his email messages to weed out [[ween]] messages from legitimate [[business]] dealings<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/posts/3470913/ Null discussing Chris' legitimate business offers]</ref>, as well as offering advice, such as warning Chris not to invade people's personal space at other conventions after Chris' behavior had gotten him [[banned|kicked out]] of [[TooManyGames]]. He had felt motivated to assist Chris after learning that [[Idea Guy|malicious weens]] had scammed Chris out of enough money to put him at risk of losing his home.<ref name="currenttroll">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-14#post-3468968 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>

==Ownership of Kiwi Farms==
{{quote|I started hosting the CWCki Forums in [[2013]]. Before [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] died, trolling Chris was particularly funny, but after Bob has died, it has become less funny and more miserable every goddamn year.|Null, on Chris' [[weens|current-day trolls]].<ref name="currenttroll">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-14#post-3468968 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>}}
{{main|Kiwi Farms}}
Previously existing as a Chris-focused message board in various iterations, in February 2015 the CWCki Forums was consolidated into the Kiwi Farms, shifting focus away from just Chris. Null is the current owner of the site, though has often referred to Chris as a "dead cow".<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/idea-guy-joshua-wise-manipulating-the-intellecutally-disabled-for-fun-megathread.37132/post-2988715 Null deems Chris a "dead cow"]</ref> Until [[2018]], he rarely interacted directly with Chris.

===Fundraiser===
[[File:BBOSBox.jpg|thumb|200px|The Kiwi Farms care package.]]
[[File:BBOSLetter.jpg|thumb|200px|The smaller items included, including a letter.]]
In 2014, after Chris [[14_Branchland_Court#Destruction_of_the_Chandler_Household|accidentally burned down his house]], Null sympathized, as he himself had suffered a house fire in his youth. He organized a fundraiser on the forum that resulted in several hundred dollars worth of supplies being sent as a care package for Chris to get on his feet again, with the remainder of the amount sent as a money order. Mistakenly thinking that the money order was signed incorrectly (and thus rendered useless), Chris insulted Null by calling him a "[[Wikipedia:Dodo|Dodo]] brain" on Facebook.<ref>[[January 2014 Facebook Posts#Hey, Dodo Brain!]]</ref> In 2017, Chris piled on by tweeting "Null is a dull lull; [[random-access humor|LOL]].<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts]]</ref>"

==Rescue from the Idea Guys==
In late [[April 2018]], [[Anna McLerran]] contacted [[The Captain]] stating that she was worried Chris was being actively manipulated.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref> She was unable to get any confirmation, however, due to Chris refusing to give any information. In response, "Operation Kingsnake" began.

===Discovery of the Idea Guys===
Based off of this information, The Captain began attempting to contact Chris. He was eventually able to gain his trust, but only by playing along to his [[Chris and reality|delusional beliefs]]. Chris then revealed to him that he was in a top-secret [[Discord]] chat with the [[Idea Guys]] on a separate account they had created for him. At this point, with the coaching of [[The Man in the Pickle Suit|Marvin]], The Captain had multiple conversations with Chris in which he attempted to convince him that the Idea Guys were bad people who had only hurt “fake” characters. Chris eventually came to believe him, but only after using his “mind powers”.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref> In response, he gave The Captain full control to his accounts so he could gather evidence against the Idea guys.

===Infiltration===
[[File:IdeaGuyDiscords.jpg|thumb|250px|left|A screenshot by [[The Captain]] revealing the profiles of all the [[Idea Guys]].]]
When The Captain first logged in to Chris’ [[Discord]] account, he was overwhelmed by how far the Idea Guys had gone to take advantage of Chris. Their tactics ranged from extortion, to threats, and even blackmail. He once again went to Marvin with this information. To stall the Idea Guys so they could collect evidence, the two began roleplaying in the server as Chris. This stalling lasted upwards of a week. Whenever the Idea Guys asked The Captain something he didn’t know, The Captain would ask Marvin and Chris for direction and then reply accordingly. At one point during the week, the Idea Guys became suspicious, and asked Chris to post photographic evidence to prove that he was indeed himself. They quickly had Chris take this photograph for them, writing the desired message on a dry erase board. They were also able to collect the IPs of [[Idea Guys#Identities|Wise and Boyd]] using an IP tracer, as well as the IP of a third unidentified Idea Guy.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551849 The Captain reveals the Idea Guys' Discord]</ref> During this time, Chris was told to take a break from the internet for a week, to which he complied. He spent that week catching up on the shows Wise and Boyd had “banned” him from watching, which included [[My Little Pony]] and “nearly everything on Crunchy Roll”.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

Eventually, Marvin managed to build a script that ripped the server's chat logs straight from Discord, archiving the hundreds of pages of the Idea Guys' debauchery. Once all of the images and chat logs had been saved, Chris’ Discord account went unused and remained offline. A couple of days later, Wise and Boyd realized what this new inactivity implied, and began sanitizing the server. They banned Chris from the channel, and deleted every private message they had sent him one by one. For them, however, it was already too late.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

===Extortion===
[[File:IdeaGuyReceipts1.jpg|thumb|250px|Receipts of items Chris bought for Wise and Boyd.]]
{{main|Idea Guys#Extortion}}
{{quote|I get that $6000 isn't the white collar crime that brings down the hammer, but we're talking about unhinged lunatics who are coaxing mentally ill people into punching themselves.|Null, describing his frustrations with law enforcement.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>}}

Midway through their infiltration of the Idea Guys’ [[Discord]], Null was brought into the process. As more information poured in, he personally became involved, filing reports with the FBI, Green County Sheriff, and even calling Boyd’s mother. Chris began taking steps to assist any future investigations, imcluding getting a new phone number, and forwarding Null, Marvin and The Captain any and all suspicious incoming messages. He then gave the three full access to all of his accounts. Chris also began collecting all of his receipts from Food Lion, which he had used to purchase Amazon/GameStop gift cards for the Idea Guys with. He also took screenshots of his GameStop order history to prove that he had purchased and sent PS Vitas and other items to Wise and Boyd’s personal addresses. In total, the Idea Guys extorted approximately $6000 from Chris. This resulted in Chris facing serious monetary issues.

Strangely, to this day law enforcement have yet to act on any of Null’s reports. Green County Sheriff Steven S. Smith refused to act, stating that it was Chris’ choice to shit on the floor. The FBI was sent his IC3 twice (once online, another in-person by Chris) but no action was ever taken. Thus, Wise and Boyd have yet to face any legal repercussions for their extortion and blackmailing of an exceptional individual.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

==Protection from future trolls==
===Email monitoring===
[[File:NullvulgarWeen.jpg|thumb|250px|Null angrily insulting a [[ween]] with racial epithets.]]
[[File:CWC drawing for Joshua Moon.jpg|thumb|250px|The 'dull lull' himself.]]
{{quote|Null has the passwords to the accounts. He checks shit, deletes shit. Chris doesn't act on any messages unless Null gives it the OK first.|Marvin, describing "Operation: Guard dog".<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>}}
After the Idea Guys were successfully removed from power, Chris began speaking to Null, Marvin and The Captain regularly. They began actively monitoring his accounts, with Null personally reviewing all of Chris’ emails.<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref><ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/ OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>
This lead to Chris and the three to speak on very friendly terms, with Chris even drawing Null his very own original [[My Little Pony]] character. They also began coaching Chris on how to better protect his social media, though their efforts were most likely in vain.

===Publications===
{{see also|Idea Guys#Gallery of leaked content}}

Null has written and published a handful of articles onto Kiwi Farms regarding the content retrieved during their infiltration of the [[Idea Guys|Idea Guys']] discord server.

On 11 [[July 2018]], Null released his account of the dismantling of the Idea Guys onto Kiwi Farms, dubbing the group “The Chris-Chan Extortionists”. Written for a broader audience, he reveals to what extent the Idea Guys had manipulated Chris, and his frustration with law enforcement’s inaction.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

On 13 [[July 2018]], Null released [[Cryzel Torture]], a nine-hour-long chatlog in which Wise and Stephen Boyd berate Chris and continue to convince him that his characters were being tortured.

On 19 [[July 2018]], Null posted [[The Bad Beginning]], the first 9 hour and 15 minute long text conversation found in the Idea Guys' Discord server.

===Alienation from Chris===
{{Infobox/video
| name = Summary of Guard Dog Saga (and other commentaries)
| video = {{#ev:youtube|iJXVdmPN9jM}}
| stardate = 26 [[November 2018]]
| Saga = {{Guard Dog|text}}
| other = {{Audio|text}}
}}

Inevitably, Null’s involvement in the Guarddog saga didn't last long, as Chris' incompetency pushed Null away like so many had been before. Null was quickly alienated by Chris due to his refusal to play along with the [[Dimensional Merge]], and as a result, he lost much of the sympathy he initially held for Chris. In a livestream from [[November 2018]], he states that he no longer wanted any part of the operation. He also reveals that at one point he had arranged for a moderator who lived near Chris to drive to him when [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] died so Chris could be swiftly moved into an assisted living facility.

==Later developments==
===The 'Teen Troon Squad' reveals themselves===
{{main|Teen Troon Squad#The reveal}}
On 25 [[December 2018]], a person posing as [[Magi-Chan]] posted a tweet linking to a (since taken down) Pastebin, now referred to as "The 'Teen Troon Squad' Reveals Themselves". This Pastebin elaborately doxes Lukas, one of the squad's members, revealing his birth name, home address, and a supposed phone number. Naturally, when the link was first released, there was much speculation as to who had actually written the tweet. Ultimately, it was determined that it had to have been done by someone Chris had trusted with his password; significantly narrowing down the suspect pool. Lukas would later claim that The Captain was responsible for doxxing him.

==See also==
*[[Kiwi Farms]]
*[[Idea Guys]]
*[[The Bad Beginning]]
*[[The Man in the Pickle Suit]]

== Sources ==
<references/>

{{Trolls}}
{{Not_Jerks}}
{{People}}

[[Category:Trolls]]
[[Category:Real people who have appeared in Sonichu comics]]

Joshua Moon

2019-04-25T09:50:29Z

Thnxbb: /* Extortion */

{{Honest}}
{{quote|I systematically dismantled all these people taking advantage of him.|Null, summarizing "Operation: Kingsnake".<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJXVdmPN9jM YouTube - "Null (Owner of Kiwi Farms) talks dismantling Idea Guys"]</ref>}}

{{infobox
| title = Joshua Moon
| image = [[File:JoshuaNull.jpg|250px|center]]
|header1 = Information
|label1 = Name
|data1 = Joshua Moon
|label2 = Also known as
|data2 = "Null"
|label4 = Gender
|data4 = Male
|label6 = [[Chris and race|Race]]
|label5 = Nationality
|data5 = [[United States|American]]
|data6 = White
|label7 = Occupation
|data7 = Owner of [[Kiwi Farms]]
|
}}

'''Joshua Moon''', better known by his online alias '''"Null"''', is the current owner of [[Kiwi Farms]].

During the spring of 2018, Null began acting as [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris']] volunteer advisor, helping him by filtering his email messages to weed out [[ween]] messages from legitimate [[business]] dealings<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/posts/3470913/ Null discussing Chris' legitimate business offers]</ref>, as well as offering advice, such as warning Chris not to invade people's personal space at other conventions after Chris' behavior had gotten him [[banned|kicked out]] of [[TooManyGames]]. He had felt motivated to assist Chris after learning that [[Idea Guy|malicious weens]] had scammed Chris out of enough money to put him at risk of losing his home.<ref name="currenttroll">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-14#post-3468968 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>

==Ownership of Kiwi Farms==
{{quote|I started hosting the CWCki Forums in [[2013]]. Before [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] died, trolling Chris was particularly funny, but after Bob has died, it has become less funny and more miserable every goddamn year.|Null, on Chris' [[weens|current-day trolls]].<ref name="currenttroll">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-14#post-3468968 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>}}
{{main|Kiwi Farms}}
Previously existing as a Chris-focused message board in various iterations, in February 2015 the CWCki Forums was consolidated into the Kiwi Farms, shifting focus away from just Chris. Null is the current owner of the site, though has often referred to Chris as a "dead cow".<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/idea-guy-joshua-wise-manipulating-the-intellecutally-disabled-for-fun-megathread.37132/post-2988715 Null deems Chris a "dead cow"]</ref> Until [[2018]], he rarely interacted directly with Chris.

===Fundraiser===
[[File:BBOSBox.jpg|thumb|200px|The Kiwi Farms care package.]]
[[File:BBOSLetter.jpg|thumb|200px|The smaller items included, including a letter.]]
In 2014, after Chris [[14_Branchland_Court#Destruction_of_the_Chandler_Household|accidentally burned down his house]], Null sympathized, as he himself had suffered a house fire in his youth. He organized a fundraiser on the forum that resulted in several hundred dollars worth of supplies being sent as a care package for Chris to get on his feet again, with the remainder of the amount sent as a money order. Mistakenly thinking that the money order was signed incorrectly (and thus rendered useless), Chris insulted Null by calling him a "[[Wikipedia:Dodo|Dodo]] brain" on Facebook.<ref>[[January 2014 Facebook Posts#Hey, Dodo Brain!]]</ref> In 2017, Chris piled on by tweeting "Null is a dull lull; [[random-access humor|LOL]].<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts]]</ref>"

==Rescue from the Idea Guys==
In late [[April 2018]], [[Anna McLerran]] contacted [[The Captain]] stating that she was worried Chris was being actively manipulated.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref> She was unable to get any confirmation, however, due to Chris refusing to give any information. In response, "Operation Kingsnake" began.

===Discovery of the Idea Guys===
Based off of this information, The Captain began attempting to contact Chris. He was eventually able to gain his trust, but only by playing along to his [[Chris and reality|delusional beliefs]]. Chris then revealed to him that he was in a top-secret [[Discord]] chat with the [[Idea Guys]] on a separate account they had created for him. At this point, with the coaching of [[The Man in the Pickle Suit|Marvin]], The Captain had multiple conversations with Chris in which he attempted to convince him that the Idea Guys were bad people who had only hurt “fake” characters. Chris eventually came to believe him, but only after using his “mind powers”.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref> In response, he gave The Captain full control to his accounts so he could gather evidence against the Idea guys.

===Infiltration===
[[File:IdeaGuyDiscords.jpg|thumb|250px|left|A screenshot by [[The Captain]] revealing the profiles of all the [[Idea Guys]].]]
When The Captain first logged in to Chris’ [[Discord]] account, he was overwhelmed by how far the Idea Guys had gone to take advantage of Chris. Their tactics ranged from extortion, to threats, and even blackmail. He once again went to Marvin with this information. To stall the Idea Guys so they could collect evidence, the two began roleplaying in the server as Chris. This stalling lasted upwards of a week. Whenever the Idea Guys asked The Captain something he didn’t know, The Captain would ask Marvin and Chris for direction and then reply accordingly. At one point during the week, the Idea Guys became suspicious, and asked Chris to post photographic evidence to prove that he was indeed himself. They quickly had Chris take this photograph for them, writing the desired message on a dry erase board. They were also able to collect the IPs of [[Idea Guys#Identities|Wise and Boyd]] using an IP tracer, as well as the IP of a third unidentified Idea Guy.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551849 The Captain reveals the Idea Guys' Discord]</ref> During this time, Chris was told to take a break from the internet for a week, to which he complied. He spent that week catching up on the shows Wise and Boyd had “banned” him from watching, which included [[My Little Pony]] and “nearly everything on Crunchy Roll”.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

Eventually, Marvin managed to build a script that ripped the server's chat logs straight from Discord, archiving the hundreds of pages of the Idea Guys' debauchery. Once all of the images and chat logs had been saved, Chris’ Discord account went unused and remained offline. A couple of days later, Wise and Boyd realized what this new inactivity implied, and began sanitizing the server. They banned Chris from the channel, and deleted every private message they had sent him one by one. For them, however, it was already too late.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

===Extortion===
[[File:IdeaGuyReceipts1.jpg|thumb|250px|Receipts of items Chris bought for Wise and Boyd.]]
{{main|Idea Guys#Extortion}}
{{quote|I get that $6000 isn't the white collar crime that brings down the hammer, but we're talking about unhinged lunatics who are coaxing mentally ill people into punching themselves.|Null, describing his frustrations with law enforcement.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>}}

Midway through their infiltration of the Idea Guys’ [[Discord]], Null was brought into the process. As more information poured in, he personally became involved, filing reports with the FBI, Green County Sheriff, and even calling Boyd’s mother. Chris began taking steps to assist any future investigations, imcluding getting a new phone number, and forwarding Null, Marvin and The Captain any and all suspicious incoming messages. He then gave the three full access to all of his accounts. Chris also began collecting all of his receipts from Food Lion, which he had used to purchase Amazon/GameStop gift cards for the Idea Guys with. He also took screenshots of his GameStop order history to prove that he had purchased and sent PS Vitas and other items to Wise and Boyd’s personal addresses. In total, the Idea Guys extorted approximately $6000 from Chris. This resulted in Chris facing serious monetary issues.

Strangely, to this day law enforcement have yet to act on any of Null’s reports. Green County Sheriff Steven S. Smith refused to act, stating that it was Chris’ choice to shit on the floor. The FBI was sent his IC3 twice (once online, another in-person by Chris) but no action was ever taken. Thus, Wise and Boyd have yet to face any legal repercussions for their extortion and blackmailing of an exceptional individual.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

==Protection from future trolls==
===Email monitoring===
[[File:NullvulgarWeen.jpg|thumb|250px|Null angrily insulting a [[ween]] with racial epithets.]]
[[File:CWC drawing for Joshua Moon.jpg|thumb|250px|The 'dull lull' himself.]]
{{quote|Null has the passwords to the accounts. He checks shit, deletes shit. Chris doesn't act on any messages unless Null gives it the OK first.|Marvin, describing "Operation: Guard dog".<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>}}
After the Idea Guys were successfully removed from power, Chris began speaking to Null, Marvin and The Captain regularly. They began actively monitoring his accounts, with Null personally reviewing all of Chris’ emails.<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref><ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/ OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>
This lead to Chris and the three becoming on very friendly terms, with Chris even drawing Null his very own original [[My Little Pony]] character. They also began coaching Chris on how to better protect his social media, though their efforts were most likely in vein.

===Publications===
{{see also|Idea Guys#Gallery of leaked content}}

Null has written and published a handful of articles onto Kiwi Farms regarding the content retrieved during their infiltration of the [[Idea Guys|Idea Guys']] discord server.

On 11 [[July 2018]], Null released his account of the dismantling of the Idea Guys onto Kiwi Farms, dubbing the group “The Chris-Chan Extortionists”. Written for a broader audience, he reveals to what extent the Idea Guys had manipulated Chris, and his frustration with law enforcement’s inaction.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

On 13 [[July 2018]], Null released [[Cryzel Torture]], a nine-hour-long chatlog in which Wise and Stephen Boyd berate Chris and continue to convince him that his characters were being tortured.

On 19 [[July 2018]], Null posted [[The Bad Beginning]], the first 9 hour and 15 minute long text conversation found in the Idea Guys' Discord server.

===Alienation from Chris===
{{Infobox/video
| name = Summary of Guard Dog Saga (and other commentaries)
| video = {{#ev:youtube|iJXVdmPN9jM}}
| stardate = 26 [[November 2018]]
| Saga = {{Guard Dog|text}}
| other = {{Audio|text}}
}}

Inevitably, Null’s involvement in the Guarddog saga didn't last long, as Chris' incompetency pushed Null away like so many had been before. Null was quickly alienated by Chris due to his refusal to play along with the [[Dimensional Merge]], and as a result, he lost much of the sympathy he initially held for Chris. In a livestream from [[November 2018]], he states that he no longer wanted any part of the operation. He also reveals that at one point he had arranged for a moderator who lived near Chris to drive to him when [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] died so Chris could be swiftly moved into an assisted living facility.

==Later developments==
===The 'Teen Troon Squad' reveals themselves===
{{main|Teen Troon Squad#The reveal}}
On 25 [[December 2018]], a person posing as [[Magi-Chan]] posted a tweet linking to a (since taken down) Pastebin, now referred to as "The 'Teen Troon Squad' Reveals Themselves". This Pastebin elaborately doxes Lukas, one of the squad's members, revealing his birth name, home address, and a supposed phone number. Naturally, when the link was first released, there was much speculation as to who had actually written the tweet. Ultimately, it was determined that it had to have been done by someone Chris had trusted with his password; significantly narrowing down the suspect pool. Lukas would later claim that The Captain was responsible for doxxing him.

==See also==
*[[Kiwi Farms]]
*[[Idea Guys]]
*[[The Bad Beginning]]
*[[The Man in the Pickle Suit]]

== Sources ==
<references/>

{{Trolls}}
{{Not_Jerks}}
{{People}}

[[Category:Trolls]]
[[Category:Real people who have appeared in Sonichu comics]]

Joshua Moon

2019-04-25T09:48:08Z

Thnxbb: /* Infiltration */

{{Honest}}
{{quote|I systematically dismantled all these people taking advantage of him.|Null, summarizing "Operation: Kingsnake".<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJXVdmPN9jM YouTube - "Null (Owner of Kiwi Farms) talks dismantling Idea Guys"]</ref>}}

{{infobox
| title = Joshua Moon
| image = [[File:JoshuaNull.jpg|250px|center]]
|header1 = Information
|label1 = Name
|data1 = Joshua Moon
|label2 = Also known as
|data2 = "Null"
|label4 = Gender
|data4 = Male
|label6 = [[Chris and race|Race]]
|label5 = Nationality
|data5 = [[United States|American]]
|data6 = White
|label7 = Occupation
|data7 = Owner of [[Kiwi Farms]]
|
}}

'''Joshua Moon''', better known by his online alias '''"Null"''', is the current owner of [[Kiwi Farms]].

During the spring of 2018, Null began acting as [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris']] volunteer advisor, helping him by filtering his email messages to weed out [[ween]] messages from legitimate [[business]] dealings<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/posts/3470913/ Null discussing Chris' legitimate business offers]</ref>, as well as offering advice, such as warning Chris not to invade people's personal space at other conventions after Chris' behavior had gotten him [[banned|kicked out]] of [[TooManyGames]]. He had felt motivated to assist Chris after learning that [[Idea Guy|malicious weens]] had scammed Chris out of enough money to put him at risk of losing his home.<ref name="currenttroll">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-14#post-3468968 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>

==Ownership of Kiwi Farms==
{{quote|I started hosting the CWCki Forums in [[2013]]. Before [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] died, trolling Chris was particularly funny, but after Bob has died, it has become less funny and more miserable every goddamn year.|Null, on Chris' [[weens|current-day trolls]].<ref name="currenttroll">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-14#post-3468968 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>}}
{{main|Kiwi Farms}}
Previously existing as a Chris-focused message board in various iterations, in February 2015 the CWCki Forums was consolidated into the Kiwi Farms, shifting focus away from just Chris. Null is the current owner of the site, though has often referred to Chris as a "dead cow".<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/idea-guy-joshua-wise-manipulating-the-intellecutally-disabled-for-fun-megathread.37132/post-2988715 Null deems Chris a "dead cow"]</ref> Until [[2018]], he rarely interacted directly with Chris.

===Fundraiser===
[[File:BBOSBox.jpg|thumb|200px|The Kiwi Farms care package.]]
[[File:BBOSLetter.jpg|thumb|200px|The smaller items included, including a letter.]]
In 2014, after Chris [[14_Branchland_Court#Destruction_of_the_Chandler_Household|accidentally burned down his house]], Null sympathized, as he himself had suffered a house fire in his youth. He organized a fundraiser on the forum that resulted in several hundred dollars worth of supplies being sent as a care package for Chris to get on his feet again, with the remainder of the amount sent as a money order. Mistakenly thinking that the money order was signed incorrectly (and thus rendered useless), Chris insulted Null by calling him a "[[Wikipedia:Dodo|Dodo]] brain" on Facebook.<ref>[[January 2014 Facebook Posts#Hey, Dodo Brain!]]</ref> In 2017, Chris piled on by tweeting "Null is a dull lull; [[random-access humor|LOL]].<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts]]</ref>"

==Rescue from the Idea Guys==
In late [[April 2018]], [[Anna McLerran]] contacted [[The Captain]] stating that she was worried Chris was being actively manipulated.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref> She was unable to get any confirmation, however, due to Chris refusing to give any information. In response, "Operation Kingsnake" began.

===Discovery of the Idea Guys===
Based off of this information, The Captain began attempting to contact Chris. He was eventually able to gain his trust, but only by playing along to his [[Chris and reality|delusional beliefs]]. Chris then revealed to him that he was in a top-secret [[Discord]] chat with the [[Idea Guys]] on a separate account they had created for him. At this point, with the coaching of [[The Man in the Pickle Suit|Marvin]], The Captain had multiple conversations with Chris in which he attempted to convince him that the Idea Guys were bad people who had only hurt “fake” characters. Chris eventually came to believe him, but only after using his “mind powers”.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref> In response, he gave The Captain full control to his accounts so he could gather evidence against the Idea guys.

===Infiltration===
[[File:IdeaGuyDiscords.jpg|thumb|250px|left|A screenshot by [[The Captain]] revealing the profiles of all the [[Idea Guys]].]]
When The Captain first logged in to Chris’ [[Discord]] account, he was overwhelmed by how far the Idea Guys had gone to take advantage of Chris. Their tactics ranged from extortion, to threats, and even blackmail. He once again went to Marvin with this information. To stall the Idea Guys so they could collect evidence, the two began roleplaying in the server as Chris. This stalling lasted upwards of a week. Whenever the Idea Guys asked The Captain something he didn’t know, The Captain would ask Marvin and Chris for direction and then reply accordingly. At one point during the week, the Idea Guys became suspicious, and asked Chris to post photographic evidence to prove that he was indeed himself. They quickly had Chris take this photograph for them, writing the desired message on a dry erase board. They were also able to collect the IPs of [[Idea Guys#Identities|Wise and Boyd]] using an IP tracer, as well as the IP of a third unidentified Idea Guy.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551849 The Captain reveals the Idea Guys' Discord]</ref> During this time, Chris was told to take a break from the internet for a week, to which he complied. He spent that week catching up on the shows Wise and Boyd had “banned” him from watching, which included [[My Little Pony]] and “nearly everything on Crunchy Roll”.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

Eventually, Marvin managed to build a script that ripped the server's chat logs straight from Discord, archiving the hundreds of pages of the Idea Guys' debauchery. Once all of the images and chat logs had been saved, Chris’ Discord account went unused and remained offline. A couple of days later, Wise and Boyd realized what this new inactivity implied, and began sanitizing the server. They banned Chris from the channel, and deleted every private message they had sent him one by one. For them, however, it was already too late.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

===Extortion===
[[File:IdeaGuyReceipts1.jpg|thumb|250px|Receipts of items Chris bought for Wise and Boyd.]]
{{main|Idea Guys#Extortion}}
{{quote|I get that $6000 isn't the white collar crime that brings down the hammer, but we're talking about unhinged lunatics who are coaxing mentally ill people into punching themselves.|Null, describing his frustrations with law enforcement.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>}}

Midway through their infiltration of the Idea Guys’ [[Discord]], Joshua Moon (better known by his alias “Null”) was brought into the process. As more information poured in, he personally became involved, filing reports with the FBI, Green County Sheriff, and even calling Boyd’s mother. Chris began taking steps to assist any future investigation, getting a new phone number, and forwarding Null, Marvin and The Captain any and all suspicious incoming messages. They gave the three full access to all of his accounts. Chris also began collecting all of his receipts from Food Lion, which he had used to purchase Amazon/GameStop gift cards for the Idea Guys with. He also took screenshots of his GameStop order history to prove that he had purchased PS Vitas and other items to Wise and Boyd’s personal addresses. In total, the Idea Guys had extorted approximately $6000 from Chris. This resulted in Chris facing serious monetary issues.

Strangely, to this day law enforcement have yet to act on any of Null’s reports. Green County Sheriff Steven S. Smith refused to act, stating that it was Chris’ choice to shit on the floor. The FBI was sent his IC3 twice (once online, another in-person by Chris) but no action was ever taken. Thus, Wise and Boyd have yet to face any legal repercussions for their extortion and blackmailing of an exceptional individual.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

==Protection from future trolls==
===Email monitoring===
[[File:NullvulgarWeen.jpg|thumb|250px|Null angrily insulting a [[ween]] with racial epithets.]]
[[File:CWC drawing for Joshua Moon.jpg|thumb|250px|The 'dull lull' himself.]]
{{quote|Null has the passwords to the accounts. He checks shit, deletes shit. Chris doesn't act on any messages unless Null gives it the OK first.|Marvin, describing "Operation: Guard dog".<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>}}
After the Idea Guys were successfully removed from power, Chris began speaking to Null, Marvin and The Captain regularly. They began actively monitoring his accounts, with Null personally reviewing all of Chris’ emails.<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref><ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/ OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>
This lead to Chris and the three becoming on very friendly terms, with Chris even drawing Null his very own original [[My Little Pony]] character. They also began coaching Chris on how to better protect his social media, though their efforts were most likely in vein.

===Publications===
{{see also|Idea Guys#Gallery of leaked content}}

Null has written and published a handful of articles onto Kiwi Farms regarding the content retrieved during their infiltration of the [[Idea Guys|Idea Guys']] discord server.

On 11 [[July 2018]], Null released his account of the dismantling of the Idea Guys onto Kiwi Farms, dubbing the group “The Chris-Chan Extortionists”. Written for a broader audience, he reveals to what extent the Idea Guys had manipulated Chris, and his frustration with law enforcement’s inaction.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

On 13 [[July 2018]], Null released [[Cryzel Torture]], a nine-hour-long chatlog in which Wise and Stephen Boyd berate Chris and continue to convince him that his characters were being tortured.

On 19 [[July 2018]], Null posted [[The Bad Beginning]], the first 9 hour and 15 minute long text conversation found in the Idea Guys' Discord server.

===Alienation from Chris===
{{Infobox/video
| name = Summary of Guard Dog Saga (and other commentaries)
| video = {{#ev:youtube|iJXVdmPN9jM}}
| stardate = 26 [[November 2018]]
| Saga = {{Guard Dog|text}}
| other = {{Audio|text}}
}}

Inevitably, Null’s involvement in the Guarddog saga didn't last long, as Chris' incompetency pushed Null away like so many had been before. Null was quickly alienated by Chris due to his refusal to play along with the [[Dimensional Merge]], and as a result, he lost much of the sympathy he initially held for Chris. In a livestream from [[November 2018]], he states that he no longer wanted any part of the operation. He also reveals that at one point he had arranged for a moderator who lived near Chris to drive to him when [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] died so Chris could be swiftly moved into an assisted living facility.

==Later developments==
===The 'Teen Troon Squad' reveals themselves===
{{main|Teen Troon Squad#The reveal}}
On 25 [[December 2018]], a person posing as [[Magi-Chan]] posted a tweet linking to a (since taken down) Pastebin, now referred to as "The 'Teen Troon Squad' Reveals Themselves". This Pastebin elaborately doxes Lukas, one of the squad's members, revealing his birth name, home address, and a supposed phone number. Naturally, when the link was first released, there was much speculation as to who had actually written the tweet. Ultimately, it was determined that it had to have been done by someone Chris had trusted with his password; significantly narrowing down the suspect pool. Lukas would later claim that The Captain was responsible for doxxing him.

==See also==
*[[Kiwi Farms]]
*[[Idea Guys]]
*[[The Bad Beginning]]
*[[The Man in the Pickle Suit]]

== Sources ==
<references/>

{{Trolls}}
{{Not_Jerks}}
{{People}}

[[Category:Trolls]]
[[Category:Real people who have appeared in Sonichu comics]]

Joshua Moon

2019-04-25T08:44:50Z

Thnxbb: /* The 'Teen Troon Squad' Reveals Themselves */

{{Honest}}
{{quote|I systematically dismantled all these people taking advantage of him.|Null, summarizing "Operation: Kingsnake".<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJXVdmPN9jM YouTube - "Null (Owner of Kiwi Farms) talks dismantling Idea Guys"]</ref>}}

{{infobox
| title = Joshua Moon
| image = [[File:JoshuaNull.jpg|250px|center]]
|header1 = Information
|label1 = Name
|data1 = Joshua Moon
|label2 = Also known as
|data2 = "Null"
|label4 = Gender
|data4 = Male
|label6 = [[Chris and race|Race]]
|label5 = Nationality
|data5 = [[United States|American]]
|data6 = White
|label7 = Occupation
|data7 = Owner of [[Kiwi Farms]]
|
}}

'''Joshua Moon''', better known by his online alias '''"Null"''', is the current owner of [[Kiwi Farms]].

During the spring of 2018, Null began acting as [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris']] volunteer advisor, helping him by filtering his email messages to weed out [[ween]] messages from legitimate [[business]] dealings<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/posts/3470913/ Null discussing Chris' legitimate business offers]</ref>, as well as offering advice, such as warning Chris not to invade people's personal space at other conventions after Chris' behavior had gotten him [[banned|kicked out]] of [[TooManyGames]]. He had felt motivated to assist Chris after learning that [[Idea Guy|malicious weens]] had scammed Chris out of enough money to put him at risk of losing his home.<ref name="currenttroll">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-14#post-3468968 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>

==Ownership of Kiwi Farms==
{{quote|I started hosting the CWCki Forums in [[2013]]. Before [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] died, trolling Chris was particularly funny, but after Bob has died, it has become less funny and more miserable every goddamn year.|Null, on Chris' [[weens|current-day trolls]].<ref name="currenttroll">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-14#post-3468968 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>}}
{{main|Kiwi Farms}}
Previously existing as a Chris-focused message board in various iterations, in February 2015 the CWCki Forums was consolidated into the Kiwi Farms, shifting focus away from just Chris. Null is the current owner of the site, though has often referred to Chris as a "dead cow".<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/idea-guy-joshua-wise-manipulating-the-intellecutally-disabled-for-fun-megathread.37132/post-2988715 Null deems Chris a "dead cow"]</ref> Until [[2018]], he rarely interacted directly with Chris.

===Fundraiser===
[[File:BBOSBox.jpg|thumb|200px|The Kiwi Farms care package.]]
[[File:BBOSLetter.jpg|thumb|200px|The smaller items included, including a letter.]]
In 2014, after Chris [[14_Branchland_Court#Destruction_of_the_Chandler_Household|accidentally burned down his house]], Null sympathized, as he himself had suffered a house fire in his youth. He organized a fundraiser on the forum that resulted in several hundred dollars worth of supplies being sent as a care package for Chris to get on his feet again, with the remainder of the amount sent as a money order. Mistakenly thinking that the money order was signed incorrectly (and thus rendered useless), Chris insulted Null by calling him a "[[Wikipedia:Dodo|Dodo]] brain" on Facebook.<ref>[[January 2014 Facebook Posts#Hey, Dodo Brain!]]</ref> In 2017, Chris piled on by tweeting "Null is a dull lull; [[random-access humor|LOL]].<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts]]</ref>"

==Rescue from the Idea Guys==
In late [[April 2018]], [[Anna McLerran]] contacted [[The Captain]] stating that she was worried Chris was being actively manipulated.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref> She was unable to get any confirmation, however, due to Chris refusing to give any information. In response, "Operation Kingsnake" began.

===Discovery of the Idea Guys===
Based off of this information, The Captain began attempting to contact Chris. He was eventually able to gain his trust, but only by playing along to his [[Chris and reality|delusional beliefs]]. Chris then revealed to him that he was in a top-secret [[Discord]] chat with the [[Idea Guys]] on a separate account they had created for him. At this point, with the coaching of [[The Man in the Pickle Suit|Marvin]], The Captain had multiple conversations with Chris in which he attempted to convince him that the Idea Guys were bad people who had only hurt “fake” characters. Chris eventually came to believe him, but only after using his “mind powers”.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref> In response, he gave The Captain full control to his accounts so he could gather evidence against the Idea guys.

===Infiltration===
[[File:IdeaGuyDiscords.jpg|thumb|250px|left|A screenshot by [[The Captain]] revealing the profiles of all the [[Idea Guys]].]]
When The Captain first logged in to Chris’ [[Discord]] account, he was overwhelmed by how far the Idea Guys had gone to take advantage of Chris. Their tactics ranged from extortion, to threats, and even blackmail. When he once again went to Marvin with this information, he began coaching The Captain on what to do. To stall the Idea Guys so they could collected evidence, the two began roleplaying in the server as Chris. This stalling lasted upwards of a week. Whenever the Idea Guys asked The Captain something he didn’t know, The Captain would ask Marvin and Chris for direction and then reply accordingly. At one point during the week, the Idea Guys became suspicious, and asked Chris to post photographic evidence to prove that he was indeed himself. They quickly had Chris take this photograph for them, writing their desired message on a dry erase board. They were also able to collect the IPs of [[Idea Guys#Identities|Wise and Boyd]] using an IP tracer, as well as a third unidentified Idea Guy.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551849 The Captain reveals the Idea Guys' Discord]</ref> During this time, Chris was told to take a break from the internet for a week, to which he complied. He spent that week catching up on the shows Wise and Boyd had “banned” him from watching, which included [[My Little Pony]] and “nearly everything on Crunchy Roll”.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

Eventually, Marvin managed to build a script that would rip the server's chat logs from Discord, amounting to hundreds of pages of the Idea Guys' debauchery. Once all the images and chat logs had been saved, Chris’ Discord account went silent. A couple of days later, Wise and Boyd realized what this inactivity implied, and attempted to sanitize the server. They banned Chris from the channel, and began deleting every private message they had sent him, one by one. For them, however, it was already too late.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

===Extortion===
[[File:IdeaGuyReceipts1.jpg|thumb|250px|Receipts of items Chris bought for Wise and Boyd.]]
{{main|Idea Guys#Extortion}}
{{quote|I get that $6000 isn't the white collar crime that brings down the hammer, but we're talking about unhinged lunatics who are coaxing mentally ill people into punching themselves.|Null, describing his frustrations with law enforcement.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>}}

Midway through their infiltration of the Idea Guys’ [[Discord]], Joshua Moon (better known by his alias “Null”) was brought into the process. As more information poured in, he personally became involved, filing reports with the FBI, Green County Sheriff, and even calling Boyd’s mother. Chris began taking steps to assist any future investigation, getting a new phone number, and forwarding Null, Marvin and The Captain any and all suspicious incoming messages. They gave the three full access to all of his accounts. Chris also began collecting all of his receipts from Food Lion, which he had used to purchase Amazon/GameStop gift cards for the Idea Guys with. He also took screenshots of his GameStop order history to prove that he had purchased PS Vitas and other items to Wise and Boyd’s personal addresses. In total, the Idea Guys had extorted approximately $6000 from Chris. This resulted in Chris facing serious monetary issues.

Strangely, to this day law enforcement have yet to act on any of Null’s reports. Green County Sheriff Steven S. Smith refused to act, stating that it was Chris’ choice to shit on the floor. The FBI was sent his IC3 twice (once online, another in-person by Chris) but no action was ever taken. Thus, Wise and Boyd have yet to face any legal repercussions for their extortion and blackmailing of an exceptional individual.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

==Protection from future trolls==
===Email monitoring===
[[File:NullvulgarWeen.jpg|thumb|250px|Null angrily insulting a [[ween]] with racial epithets.]]
[[File:CWC drawing for Joshua Moon.jpg|thumb|250px|The 'dull lull' himself.]]
{{quote|Null has the passwords to the accounts. He checks shit, deletes shit. Chris doesn't act on any messages unless Null gives it the OK first.|Marvin, describing "Operation: Guard dog".<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>}}
After the Idea Guys were successfully removed from power, Chris began speaking to Null, Marvin and The Captain regularly. They began actively monitoring his accounts, with Null personally reviewing all of Chris’ emails.<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref><ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/ OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>
This lead to Chris and the three becoming on very friendly terms, with Chris even drawing Null his very own original [[My Little Pony]] character. They also began coaching Chris on how to better protect his social media, though their efforts were most likely in vein.

===Publications===
{{see also|Idea Guys#Gallery of leaked content}}

Null has written and published a handful of articles onto Kiwi Farms regarding the content retrieved during their infiltration of the [[Idea Guys|Idea Guys']] discord server.

On 11 [[July 2018]], Null released his account of the dismantling of the Idea Guys onto Kiwi Farms, dubbing the group “The Chris-Chan Extortionists”. Written for a broader audience, he reveals to what extent the Idea Guys had manipulated Chris, and his frustration with law enforcement’s inaction.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

On 13 [[July 2018]], Null released [[Cryzel Torture]], a nine-hour-long chatlog in which Wise and Stephen Boyd berate Chris and continue to convince him that his characters were being tortured.

On 19 [[July 2018]], Null posted [[The Bad Beginning]], the first 9 hour and 15 minute long text conversation found in the Idea Guys' Discord server.

===Alienation from Chris===
{{Infobox/video
| name = Summary of Guard Dog Saga (and other commentaries)
| video = {{#ev:youtube|iJXVdmPN9jM}}
| stardate = 26 [[November 2018]]
| Saga = {{Guard Dog|text}}
| other = {{Audio|text}}
}}

Inevitably, Null’s involvement in the Guarddog saga didn't last long, as Chris' incompetency pushed Null away like so many had been before. Null was quickly alienated by Chris due to his refusal to play along with the [[Dimensional Merge]], and as a result, he lost much of the sympathy he initially held for Chris. In a livestream from [[November 2018]], he states that he no longer wanted any part of the operation. He also reveals that at one point he had arranged for a moderator who lived near Chris to drive to him when [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] died so Chris could be swiftly moved into an assisted living facility.

==Later developments==
===The 'Teen Troon Squad' reveals themselves===
{{main|Teen Troon Squad#The reveal}}
On 25 [[December 2018]], a person posing as [[Magi-Chan]] posted a tweet linking to a (since taken down) Pastebin, now referred to as "The 'Teen Troon Squad' Reveals Themselves". This Pastebin elaborately doxes Lukas, one of the squad's members, revealing his birth name, home address, and a supposed phone number. Naturally, when the link was first released, there was much speculation as to who had actually written the tweet. Ultimately, it was determined that it had to have been done by someone Chris had trusted with his password; significantly narrowing down the suspect pool. Lukas would later claim that The Captain was responsible for doxxing him.

==See also==
*[[Kiwi Farms]]
*[[Idea Guys]]
*[[The Bad Beginning]]
*[[The Man in the Pickle Suit]]

== Sources ==
<references/>

{{Trolls}}
{{Not_Jerks}}
{{People}}

[[Category:Trolls]]
[[Category:Real people who have appeared in Sonichu comics]]

Joshua Moon

2019-04-25T08:44:42Z

Thnxbb: /* Later Developments */

{{Honest}}
{{quote|I systematically dismantled all these people taking advantage of him.|Null, summarizing "Operation: Kingsnake".<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJXVdmPN9jM YouTube - "Null (Owner of Kiwi Farms) talks dismantling Idea Guys"]</ref>}}

{{infobox
| title = Joshua Moon
| image = [[File:JoshuaNull.jpg|250px|center]]
|header1 = Information
|label1 = Name
|data1 = Joshua Moon
|label2 = Also known as
|data2 = "Null"
|label4 = Gender
|data4 = Male
|label6 = [[Chris and race|Race]]
|label5 = Nationality
|data5 = [[United States|American]]
|data6 = White
|label7 = Occupation
|data7 = Owner of [[Kiwi Farms]]
|
}}

'''Joshua Moon''', better known by his online alias '''"Null"''', is the current owner of [[Kiwi Farms]].

During the spring of 2018, Null began acting as [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris']] volunteer advisor, helping him by filtering his email messages to weed out [[ween]] messages from legitimate [[business]] dealings<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/posts/3470913/ Null discussing Chris' legitimate business offers]</ref>, as well as offering advice, such as warning Chris not to invade people's personal space at other conventions after Chris' behavior had gotten him [[banned|kicked out]] of [[TooManyGames]]. He had felt motivated to assist Chris after learning that [[Idea Guy|malicious weens]] had scammed Chris out of enough money to put him at risk of losing his home.<ref name="currenttroll">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-14#post-3468968 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>

==Ownership of Kiwi Farms==
{{quote|I started hosting the CWCki Forums in [[2013]]. Before [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] died, trolling Chris was particularly funny, but after Bob has died, it has become less funny and more miserable every goddamn year.|Null, on Chris' [[weens|current-day trolls]].<ref name="currenttroll">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-14#post-3468968 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>}}
{{main|Kiwi Farms}}
Previously existing as a Chris-focused message board in various iterations, in February 2015 the CWCki Forums was consolidated into the Kiwi Farms, shifting focus away from just Chris. Null is the current owner of the site, though has often referred to Chris as a "dead cow".<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/idea-guy-joshua-wise-manipulating-the-intellecutally-disabled-for-fun-megathread.37132/post-2988715 Null deems Chris a "dead cow"]</ref> Until [[2018]], he rarely interacted directly with Chris.

===Fundraiser===
[[File:BBOSBox.jpg|thumb|200px|The Kiwi Farms care package.]]
[[File:BBOSLetter.jpg|thumb|200px|The smaller items included, including a letter.]]
In 2014, after Chris [[14_Branchland_Court#Destruction_of_the_Chandler_Household|accidentally burned down his house]], Null sympathized, as he himself had suffered a house fire in his youth. He organized a fundraiser on the forum that resulted in several hundred dollars worth of supplies being sent as a care package for Chris to get on his feet again, with the remainder of the amount sent as a money order. Mistakenly thinking that the money order was signed incorrectly (and thus rendered useless), Chris insulted Null by calling him a "[[Wikipedia:Dodo|Dodo]] brain" on Facebook.<ref>[[January 2014 Facebook Posts#Hey, Dodo Brain!]]</ref> In 2017, Chris piled on by tweeting "Null is a dull lull; [[random-access humor|LOL]].<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts]]</ref>"

==Rescue from the Idea Guys==
In late [[April 2018]], [[Anna McLerran]] contacted [[The Captain]] stating that she was worried Chris was being actively manipulated.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref> She was unable to get any confirmation, however, due to Chris refusing to give any information. In response, "Operation Kingsnake" began.

===Discovery of the Idea Guys===
Based off of this information, The Captain began attempting to contact Chris. He was eventually able to gain his trust, but only by playing along to his [[Chris and reality|delusional beliefs]]. Chris then revealed to him that he was in a top-secret [[Discord]] chat with the [[Idea Guys]] on a separate account they had created for him. At this point, with the coaching of [[The Man in the Pickle Suit|Marvin]], The Captain had multiple conversations with Chris in which he attempted to convince him that the Idea Guys were bad people who had only hurt “fake” characters. Chris eventually came to believe him, but only after using his “mind powers”.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref> In response, he gave The Captain full control to his accounts so he could gather evidence against the Idea guys.

===Infiltration===
[[File:IdeaGuyDiscords.jpg|thumb|250px|left|A screenshot by [[The Captain]] revealing the profiles of all the [[Idea Guys]].]]
When The Captain first logged in to Chris’ [[Discord]] account, he was overwhelmed by how far the Idea Guys had gone to take advantage of Chris. Their tactics ranged from extortion, to threats, and even blackmail. When he once again went to Marvin with this information, he began coaching The Captain on what to do. To stall the Idea Guys so they could collected evidence, the two began roleplaying in the server as Chris. This stalling lasted upwards of a week. Whenever the Idea Guys asked The Captain something he didn’t know, The Captain would ask Marvin and Chris for direction and then reply accordingly. At one point during the week, the Idea Guys became suspicious, and asked Chris to post photographic evidence to prove that he was indeed himself. They quickly had Chris take this photograph for them, writing their desired message on a dry erase board. They were also able to collect the IPs of [[Idea Guys#Identities|Wise and Boyd]] using an IP tracer, as well as a third unidentified Idea Guy.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551849 The Captain reveals the Idea Guys' Discord]</ref> During this time, Chris was told to take a break from the internet for a week, to which he complied. He spent that week catching up on the shows Wise and Boyd had “banned” him from watching, which included [[My Little Pony]] and “nearly everything on Crunchy Roll”.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

Eventually, Marvin managed to build a script that would rip the server's chat logs from Discord, amounting to hundreds of pages of the Idea Guys' debauchery. Once all the images and chat logs had been saved, Chris’ Discord account went silent. A couple of days later, Wise and Boyd realized what this inactivity implied, and attempted to sanitize the server. They banned Chris from the channel, and began deleting every private message they had sent him, one by one. For them, however, it was already too late.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

===Extortion===
[[File:IdeaGuyReceipts1.jpg|thumb|250px|Receipts of items Chris bought for Wise and Boyd.]]
{{main|Idea Guys#Extortion}}
{{quote|I get that $6000 isn't the white collar crime that brings down the hammer, but we're talking about unhinged lunatics who are coaxing mentally ill people into punching themselves.|Null, describing his frustrations with law enforcement.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>}}

Midway through their infiltration of the Idea Guys’ [[Discord]], Joshua Moon (better known by his alias “Null”) was brought into the process. As more information poured in, he personally became involved, filing reports with the FBI, Green County Sheriff, and even calling Boyd’s mother. Chris began taking steps to assist any future investigation, getting a new phone number, and forwarding Null, Marvin and The Captain any and all suspicious incoming messages. They gave the three full access to all of his accounts. Chris also began collecting all of his receipts from Food Lion, which he had used to purchase Amazon/GameStop gift cards for the Idea Guys with. He also took screenshots of his GameStop order history to prove that he had purchased PS Vitas and other items to Wise and Boyd’s personal addresses. In total, the Idea Guys had extorted approximately $6000 from Chris. This resulted in Chris facing serious monetary issues.

Strangely, to this day law enforcement have yet to act on any of Null’s reports. Green County Sheriff Steven S. Smith refused to act, stating that it was Chris’ choice to shit on the floor. The FBI was sent his IC3 twice (once online, another in-person by Chris) but no action was ever taken. Thus, Wise and Boyd have yet to face any legal repercussions for their extortion and blackmailing of an exceptional individual.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

==Protection from future trolls==
===Email monitoring===
[[File:NullvulgarWeen.jpg|thumb|250px|Null angrily insulting a [[ween]] with racial epithets.]]
[[File:CWC drawing for Joshua Moon.jpg|thumb|250px|The 'dull lull' himself.]]
{{quote|Null has the passwords to the accounts. He checks shit, deletes shit. Chris doesn't act on any messages unless Null gives it the OK first.|Marvin, describing "Operation: Guard dog".<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>}}
After the Idea Guys were successfully removed from power, Chris began speaking to Null, Marvin and The Captain regularly. They began actively monitoring his accounts, with Null personally reviewing all of Chris’ emails.<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref><ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/ OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>
This lead to Chris and the three becoming on very friendly terms, with Chris even drawing Null his very own original [[My Little Pony]] character. They also began coaching Chris on how to better protect his social media, though their efforts were most likely in vein.

===Publications===
{{see also|Idea Guys#Gallery of leaked content}}

Null has written and published a handful of articles onto Kiwi Farms regarding the content retrieved during their infiltration of the [[Idea Guys|Idea Guys']] discord server.

On 11 [[July 2018]], Null released his account of the dismantling of the Idea Guys onto Kiwi Farms, dubbing the group “The Chris-Chan Extortionists”. Written for a broader audience, he reveals to what extent the Idea Guys had manipulated Chris, and his frustration with law enforcement’s inaction.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

On 13 [[July 2018]], Null released [[Cryzel Torture]], a nine-hour-long chatlog in which Wise and Stephen Boyd berate Chris and continue to convince him that his characters were being tortured.

On 19 [[July 2018]], Null posted [[The Bad Beginning]], the first 9 hour and 15 minute long text conversation found in the Idea Guys' Discord server.

===Alienation from Chris===
{{Infobox/video
| name = Summary of Guard Dog Saga (and other commentaries)
| video = {{#ev:youtube|iJXVdmPN9jM}}
| stardate = 26 [[November 2018]]
| Saga = {{Guard Dog|text}}
| other = {{Audio|text}}
}}

Inevitably, Null’s involvement in the Guarddog saga didn't last long, as Chris' incompetency pushed Null away like so many had been before. Null was quickly alienated by Chris due to his refusal to play along with the [[Dimensional Merge]], and as a result, he lost much of the sympathy he initially held for Chris. In a livestream from [[November 2018]], he states that he no longer wanted any part of the operation. He also reveals that at one point he had arranged for a moderator who lived near Chris to drive to him when [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] died so Chris could be swiftly moved into an assisted living facility.

==Later developments==
===The 'Teen Troon Squad' Reveals Themselves===
{{main|Teen Troon Squad#The reveal}}
On 25 [[December 2018]], a person posing as [[Magi-Chan]] posted a tweet linking to a (since taken down) Pastebin, now referred to as "The 'Teen Troon Squad' Reveals Themselves". This Pastebin elaborately doxes Lukas, one of the squad's members, revealing his birth name, home address, and a supposed phone number. Naturally, when the link was first released, there was much speculation as to who had actually written the tweet. Ultimately, it was determined that it had to have been done by someone Chris had trusted with his password; significantly narrowing down the suspect pool. Lukas would later claim that The Captain was responsible for doxxing him.

==See also==
*[[Kiwi Farms]]
*[[Idea Guys]]
*[[The Bad Beginning]]
*[[The Man in the Pickle Suit]]

== Sources ==
<references/>

{{Trolls}}
{{Not_Jerks}}
{{People}}

[[Category:Trolls]]
[[Category:Real people who have appeared in Sonichu comics]]

Joshua Moon

2019-04-25T08:44:02Z

Thnxbb:

{{Honest}}
{{quote|I systematically dismantled all these people taking advantage of him.|Null, summarizing "Operation: Kingsnake".<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJXVdmPN9jM YouTube - "Null (Owner of Kiwi Farms) talks dismantling Idea Guys"]</ref>}}

{{infobox
| title = Joshua Moon
| image = [[File:JoshuaNull.jpg|250px|center]]
|header1 = Information
|label1 = Name
|data1 = Joshua Moon
|label2 = Also known as
|data2 = "Null"
|label4 = Gender
|data4 = Male
|label6 = [[Chris and race|Race]]
|label5 = Nationality
|data5 = [[United States|American]]
|data6 = White
|label7 = Occupation
|data7 = Owner of [[Kiwi Farms]]
|
}}

'''Joshua Moon''', better known by his online alias '''"Null"''', is the current owner of [[Kiwi Farms]].

During the spring of 2018, Null began acting as [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris']] volunteer advisor, helping him by filtering his email messages to weed out [[ween]] messages from legitimate [[business]] dealings<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/posts/3470913/ Null discussing Chris' legitimate business offers]</ref>, as well as offering advice, such as warning Chris not to invade people's personal space at other conventions after Chris' behavior had gotten him [[banned|kicked out]] of [[TooManyGames]]. He had felt motivated to assist Chris after learning that [[Idea Guy|malicious weens]] had scammed Chris out of enough money to put him at risk of losing his home.<ref name="currenttroll">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-14#post-3468968 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>

==Ownership of Kiwi Farms==
{{quote|I started hosting the CWCki Forums in [[2013]]. Before [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] died, trolling Chris was particularly funny, but after Bob has died, it has become less funny and more miserable every goddamn year.|Null, on Chris' [[weens|current-day trolls]].<ref name="currenttroll">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-14#post-3468968 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>}}
{{main|Kiwi Farms}}
Previously existing as a Chris-focused message board in various iterations, in February 2015 the CWCki Forums was consolidated into the Kiwi Farms, shifting focus away from just Chris. Null is the current owner of the site, though has often referred to Chris as a "dead cow".<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/idea-guy-joshua-wise-manipulating-the-intellecutally-disabled-for-fun-megathread.37132/post-2988715 Null deems Chris a "dead cow"]</ref> Until [[2018]], he rarely interacted directly with Chris.

===Fundraiser===
[[File:BBOSBox.jpg|thumb|200px|The Kiwi Farms care package.]]
[[File:BBOSLetter.jpg|thumb|200px|The smaller items included, including a letter.]]
In 2014, after Chris [[14_Branchland_Court#Destruction_of_the_Chandler_Household|accidentally burned down his house]], Null sympathized, as he himself had suffered a house fire in his youth. He organized a fundraiser on the forum that resulted in several hundred dollars worth of supplies being sent as a care package for Chris to get on his feet again, with the remainder of the amount sent as a money order. Mistakenly thinking that the money order was signed incorrectly (and thus rendered useless), Chris insulted Null by calling him a "[[Wikipedia:Dodo|Dodo]] brain" on Facebook.<ref>[[January 2014 Facebook Posts#Hey, Dodo Brain!]]</ref> In 2017, Chris piled on by tweeting "Null is a dull lull; [[random-access humor|LOL]].<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts]]</ref>"

==Rescue from the Idea Guys==
In late [[April 2018]], [[Anna McLerran]] contacted [[The Captain]] stating that she was worried Chris was being actively manipulated.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref> She was unable to get any confirmation, however, due to Chris refusing to give any information. In response, "Operation Kingsnake" began.

===Discovery of the Idea Guys===
Based off of this information, The Captain began attempting to contact Chris. He was eventually able to gain his trust, but only by playing along to his [[Chris and reality|delusional beliefs]]. Chris then revealed to him that he was in a top-secret [[Discord]] chat with the [[Idea Guys]] on a separate account they had created for him. At this point, with the coaching of [[The Man in the Pickle Suit|Marvin]], The Captain had multiple conversations with Chris in which he attempted to convince him that the Idea Guys were bad people who had only hurt “fake” characters. Chris eventually came to believe him, but only after using his “mind powers”.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref> In response, he gave The Captain full control to his accounts so he could gather evidence against the Idea guys.

===Infiltration===
[[File:IdeaGuyDiscords.jpg|thumb|250px|left|A screenshot by [[The Captain]] revealing the profiles of all the [[Idea Guys]].]]
When The Captain first logged in to Chris’ [[Discord]] account, he was overwhelmed by how far the Idea Guys had gone to take advantage of Chris. Their tactics ranged from extortion, to threats, and even blackmail. When he once again went to Marvin with this information, he began coaching The Captain on what to do. To stall the Idea Guys so they could collected evidence, the two began roleplaying in the server as Chris. This stalling lasted upwards of a week. Whenever the Idea Guys asked The Captain something he didn’t know, The Captain would ask Marvin and Chris for direction and then reply accordingly. At one point during the week, the Idea Guys became suspicious, and asked Chris to post photographic evidence to prove that he was indeed himself. They quickly had Chris take this photograph for them, writing their desired message on a dry erase board. They were also able to collect the IPs of [[Idea Guys#Identities|Wise and Boyd]] using an IP tracer, as well as a third unidentified Idea Guy.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551849 The Captain reveals the Idea Guys' Discord]</ref> During this time, Chris was told to take a break from the internet for a week, to which he complied. He spent that week catching up on the shows Wise and Boyd had “banned” him from watching, which included [[My Little Pony]] and “nearly everything on Crunchy Roll”.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

Eventually, Marvin managed to build a script that would rip the server's chat logs from Discord, amounting to hundreds of pages of the Idea Guys' debauchery. Once all the images and chat logs had been saved, Chris’ Discord account went silent. A couple of days later, Wise and Boyd realized what this inactivity implied, and attempted to sanitize the server. They banned Chris from the channel, and began deleting every private message they had sent him, one by one. For them, however, it was already too late.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

===Extortion===
[[File:IdeaGuyReceipts1.jpg|thumb|250px|Receipts of items Chris bought for Wise and Boyd.]]
{{main|Idea Guys#Extortion}}
{{quote|I get that $6000 isn't the white collar crime that brings down the hammer, but we're talking about unhinged lunatics who are coaxing mentally ill people into punching themselves.|Null, describing his frustrations with law enforcement.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>}}

Midway through their infiltration of the Idea Guys’ [[Discord]], Joshua Moon (better known by his alias “Null”) was brought into the process. As more information poured in, he personally became involved, filing reports with the FBI, Green County Sheriff, and even calling Boyd’s mother. Chris began taking steps to assist any future investigation, getting a new phone number, and forwarding Null, Marvin and The Captain any and all suspicious incoming messages. They gave the three full access to all of his accounts. Chris also began collecting all of his receipts from Food Lion, which he had used to purchase Amazon/GameStop gift cards for the Idea Guys with. He also took screenshots of his GameStop order history to prove that he had purchased PS Vitas and other items to Wise and Boyd’s personal addresses. In total, the Idea Guys had extorted approximately $6000 from Chris. This resulted in Chris facing serious monetary issues.

Strangely, to this day law enforcement have yet to act on any of Null’s reports. Green County Sheriff Steven S. Smith refused to act, stating that it was Chris’ choice to shit on the floor. The FBI was sent his IC3 twice (once online, another in-person by Chris) but no action was ever taken. Thus, Wise and Boyd have yet to face any legal repercussions for their extortion and blackmailing of an exceptional individual.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

==Protection from future trolls==
===Email monitoring===
[[File:NullvulgarWeen.jpg|thumb|250px|Null angrily insulting a [[ween]] with racial epithets.]]
[[File:CWC drawing for Joshua Moon.jpg|thumb|250px|The 'dull lull' himself.]]
{{quote|Null has the passwords to the accounts. He checks shit, deletes shit. Chris doesn't act on any messages unless Null gives it the OK first.|Marvin, describing "Operation: Guard dog".<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>}}
After the Idea Guys were successfully removed from power, Chris began speaking to Null, Marvin and The Captain regularly. They began actively monitoring his accounts, with Null personally reviewing all of Chris’ emails.<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref><ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/ OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>
This lead to Chris and the three becoming on very friendly terms, with Chris even drawing Null his very own original [[My Little Pony]] character. They also began coaching Chris on how to better protect his social media, though their efforts were most likely in vein.

===Publications===
{{see also|Idea Guys#Gallery of leaked content}}

Null has written and published a handful of articles onto Kiwi Farms regarding the content retrieved during their infiltration of the [[Idea Guys|Idea Guys']] discord server.

On 11 [[July 2018]], Null released his account of the dismantling of the Idea Guys onto Kiwi Farms, dubbing the group “The Chris-Chan Extortionists”. Written for a broader audience, he reveals to what extent the Idea Guys had manipulated Chris, and his frustration with law enforcement’s inaction.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

On 13 [[July 2018]], Null released [[Cryzel Torture]], a nine-hour-long chatlog in which Wise and Stephen Boyd berate Chris and continue to convince him that his characters were being tortured.

On 19 [[July 2018]], Null posted [[The Bad Beginning]], the first 9 hour and 15 minute long text conversation found in the Idea Guys' Discord server.

===Alienation from Chris===
{{Infobox/video
| name = Summary of Guard Dog Saga (and other commentaries)
| video = {{#ev:youtube|iJXVdmPN9jM}}
| stardate = 26 [[November 2018]]
| Saga = {{Guard Dog|text}}
| other = {{Audio|text}}
}}

Inevitably, Null’s involvement in the Guarddog saga didn't last long, as Chris' incompetency pushed Null away like so many had been before. Null was quickly alienated by Chris due to his refusal to play along with the [[Dimensional Merge]], and as a result, he lost much of the sympathy he initially held for Chris. In a livestream from [[November 2018]], he states that he no longer wanted any part of the operation. He also reveals that at one point he had arranged for a moderator who lived near Chris to drive to him when [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] died so Chris could be swiftly moved into an assisted living facility.

==Later Developments==
===The 'Teen Troon Squad' Reveals Themselves===
{{main|Teen Troon Squad#The reveal}}
On 25 [[December 2018]], a person posing as [[Magi-Chan]] posted a tweet linking to a (since taken down) Pastebin, now referred to as "The 'Teen Troon Squad' Reveals Themselves". This Pastebin elaborately doxes Lukas, one of the squad's members, revealing his birth name, home address, and a supposed phone number. Naturally, when the link was first released, there was much speculation as to who had actually written the tweet. Ultimately, it was determined that it had to have been done by someone Chris had trusted with his password; significantly narrowing down the suspect pool. Lukas would later claim that The Captain was responsible for doxxing him.

==See also==
*[[Kiwi Farms]]
*[[Idea Guys]]
*[[The Bad Beginning]]
*[[The Man in the Pickle Suit]]

== Sources ==
<references/>

{{Trolls}}
{{Not_Jerks}}
{{People}}

[[Category:Trolls]]
[[Category:Real people who have appeared in Sonichu comics]]

Joshua Moon

2019-04-25T08:43:55Z

Thnxbb:

{{Honest}}
{{Ongoing}}
{{quote|I systematically dismantled all these people taking advantage of him.|Null, summarizing "Operation: Kingsnake".<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJXVdmPN9jM YouTube - "Null (Owner of Kiwi Farms) talks dismantling Idea Guys"]</ref>}}

{{infobox
| title = Joshua Moon
| image = [[File:JoshuaNull.jpg|250px|center]]
|header1 = Information
|label1 = Name
|data1 = Joshua Moon
|label2 = Also known as
|data2 = "Null"
|label4 = Gender
|data4 = Male
|label6 = [[Chris and race|Race]]
|label5 = Nationality
|data5 = [[United States|American]]
|data6 = White
|label7 = Occupation
|data7 = Owner of [[Kiwi Farms]]
|
}}

'''Joshua Moon''', better known by his online alias '''"Null"''', is the current owner of [[Kiwi Farms]].

During the spring of 2018, Null began acting as [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris']] volunteer advisor, helping him by filtering his email messages to weed out [[ween]] messages from legitimate [[business]] dealings<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/posts/3470913/ Null discussing Chris' legitimate business offers]</ref>, as well as offering advice, such as warning Chris not to invade people's personal space at other conventions after Chris' behavior had gotten him [[banned|kicked out]] of [[TooManyGames]]. He had felt motivated to assist Chris after learning that [[Idea Guy|malicious weens]] had scammed Chris out of enough money to put him at risk of losing his home.<ref name="currenttroll">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-14#post-3468968 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>

==Ownership of Kiwi Farms==
{{quote|I started hosting the CWCki Forums in [[2013]]. Before [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] died, trolling Chris was particularly funny, but after Bob has died, it has become less funny and more miserable every goddamn year.|Null, on Chris' [[weens|current-day trolls]].<ref name="currenttroll">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-14#post-3468968 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>}}
{{main|Kiwi Farms}}
Previously existing as a Chris-focused message board in various iterations, in February 2015 the CWCki Forums was consolidated into the Kiwi Farms, shifting focus away from just Chris. Null is the current owner of the site, though has often referred to Chris as a "dead cow".<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/idea-guy-joshua-wise-manipulating-the-intellecutally-disabled-for-fun-megathread.37132/post-2988715 Null deems Chris a "dead cow"]</ref> Until [[2018]], he rarely interacted directly with Chris.

===Fundraiser===
[[File:BBOSBox.jpg|thumb|200px|The Kiwi Farms care package.]]
[[File:BBOSLetter.jpg|thumb|200px|The smaller items included, including a letter.]]
In 2014, after Chris [[14_Branchland_Court#Destruction_of_the_Chandler_Household|accidentally burned down his house]], Null sympathized, as he himself had suffered a house fire in his youth. He organized a fundraiser on the forum that resulted in several hundred dollars worth of supplies being sent as a care package for Chris to get on his feet again, with the remainder of the amount sent as a money order. Mistakenly thinking that the money order was signed incorrectly (and thus rendered useless), Chris insulted Null by calling him a "[[Wikipedia:Dodo|Dodo]] brain" on Facebook.<ref>[[January 2014 Facebook Posts#Hey, Dodo Brain!]]</ref> In 2017, Chris piled on by tweeting "Null is a dull lull; [[random-access humor|LOL]].<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts]]</ref>"

==Rescue from the Idea Guys==
In late [[April 2018]], [[Anna McLerran]] contacted [[The Captain]] stating that she was worried Chris was being actively manipulated.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref> She was unable to get any confirmation, however, due to Chris refusing to give any information. In response, "Operation Kingsnake" began.

===Discovery of the Idea Guys===
Based off of this information, The Captain began attempting to contact Chris. He was eventually able to gain his trust, but only by playing along to his [[Chris and reality|delusional beliefs]]. Chris then revealed to him that he was in a top-secret [[Discord]] chat with the [[Idea Guys]] on a separate account they had created for him. At this point, with the coaching of [[The Man in the Pickle Suit|Marvin]], The Captain had multiple conversations with Chris in which he attempted to convince him that the Idea Guys were bad people who had only hurt “fake” characters. Chris eventually came to believe him, but only after using his “mind powers”.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref> In response, he gave The Captain full control to his accounts so he could gather evidence against the Idea guys.

===Infiltration===
[[File:IdeaGuyDiscords.jpg|thumb|250px|left|A screenshot by [[The Captain]] revealing the profiles of all the [[Idea Guys]].]]
When The Captain first logged in to Chris’ [[Discord]] account, he was overwhelmed by how far the Idea Guys had gone to take advantage of Chris. Their tactics ranged from extortion, to threats, and even blackmail. When he once again went to Marvin with this information, he began coaching The Captain on what to do. To stall the Idea Guys so they could collected evidence, the two began roleplaying in the server as Chris. This stalling lasted upwards of a week. Whenever the Idea Guys asked The Captain something he didn’t know, The Captain would ask Marvin and Chris for direction and then reply accordingly. At one point during the week, the Idea Guys became suspicious, and asked Chris to post photographic evidence to prove that he was indeed himself. They quickly had Chris take this photograph for them, writing their desired message on a dry erase board. They were also able to collect the IPs of [[Idea Guys#Identities|Wise and Boyd]] using an IP tracer, as well as a third unidentified Idea Guy.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551849 The Captain reveals the Idea Guys' Discord]</ref> During this time, Chris was told to take a break from the internet for a week, to which he complied. He spent that week catching up on the shows Wise and Boyd had “banned” him from watching, which included [[My Little Pony]] and “nearly everything on Crunchy Roll”.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

Eventually, Marvin managed to build a script that would rip the server's chat logs from Discord, amounting to hundreds of pages of the Idea Guys' debauchery. Once all the images and chat logs had been saved, Chris’ Discord account went silent. A couple of days later, Wise and Boyd realized what this inactivity implied, and attempted to sanitize the server. They banned Chris from the channel, and began deleting every private message they had sent him, one by one. For them, however, it was already too late.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

===Extortion===
[[File:IdeaGuyReceipts1.jpg|thumb|250px|Receipts of items Chris bought for Wise and Boyd.]]
{{main|Idea Guys#Extortion}}
{{quote|I get that $6000 isn't the white collar crime that brings down the hammer, but we're talking about unhinged lunatics who are coaxing mentally ill people into punching themselves.|Null, describing his frustrations with law enforcement.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>}}

Midway through their infiltration of the Idea Guys’ [[Discord]], Joshua Moon (better known by his alias “Null”) was brought into the process. As more information poured in, he personally became involved, filing reports with the FBI, Green County Sheriff, and even calling Boyd’s mother. Chris began taking steps to assist any future investigation, getting a new phone number, and forwarding Null, Marvin and The Captain any and all suspicious incoming messages. They gave the three full access to all of his accounts. Chris also began collecting all of his receipts from Food Lion, which he had used to purchase Amazon/GameStop gift cards for the Idea Guys with. He also took screenshots of his GameStop order history to prove that he had purchased PS Vitas and other items to Wise and Boyd’s personal addresses. In total, the Idea Guys had extorted approximately $6000 from Chris. This resulted in Chris facing serious monetary issues.

Strangely, to this day law enforcement have yet to act on any of Null’s reports. Green County Sheriff Steven S. Smith refused to act, stating that it was Chris’ choice to shit on the floor. The FBI was sent his IC3 twice (once online, another in-person by Chris) but no action was ever taken. Thus, Wise and Boyd have yet to face any legal repercussions for their extortion and blackmailing of an exceptional individual.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

==Protection from future trolls==
===Email monitoring===
[[File:NullvulgarWeen.jpg|thumb|250px|Null angrily insulting a [[ween]] with racial epithets.]]
[[File:CWC drawing for Joshua Moon.jpg|thumb|250px|The 'dull lull' himself.]]
{{quote|Null has the passwords to the accounts. He checks shit, deletes shit. Chris doesn't act on any messages unless Null gives it the OK first.|Marvin, describing "Operation: Guard dog".<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>}}
After the Idea Guys were successfully removed from power, Chris began speaking to Null, Marvin and The Captain regularly. They began actively monitoring his accounts, with Null personally reviewing all of Chris’ emails.<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref><ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/ OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>
This lead to Chris and the three becoming on very friendly terms, with Chris even drawing Null his very own original [[My Little Pony]] character. They also began coaching Chris on how to better protect his social media, though their efforts were most likely in vein.

===Publications===
{{see also|Idea Guys#Gallery of leaked content}}

Null has written and published a handful of articles onto Kiwi Farms regarding the content retrieved during their infiltration of the [[Idea Guys|Idea Guys']] discord server.

On 11 [[July 2018]], Null released his account of the dismantling of the Idea Guys onto Kiwi Farms, dubbing the group “The Chris-Chan Extortionists”. Written for a broader audience, he reveals to what extent the Idea Guys had manipulated Chris, and his frustration with law enforcement’s inaction.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

On 13 [[July 2018]], Null released [[Cryzel Torture]], a nine-hour-long chatlog in which Wise and Stephen Boyd berate Chris and continue to convince him that his characters were being tortured.

On 19 [[July 2018]], Null posted [[The Bad Beginning]], the first 9 hour and 15 minute long text conversation found in the Idea Guys' Discord server.

===Alienation from Chris===
{{Infobox/video
| name = Summary of Guard Dog Saga (and other commentaries)
| video = {{#ev:youtube|iJXVdmPN9jM}}
| stardate = 26 [[November 2018]]
| Saga = {{Guard Dog|text}}
| other = {{Audio|text}}
}}

Inevitably, Null’s involvement in the Guarddog saga didn't last long, as Chris' incompetency pushed Null away like so many had been before. Null was quickly alienated by Chris due to his refusal to play along with the [[Dimensional Merge]], and as a result, he lost much of the sympathy he initially held for Chris. In a livestream from [[November 2018]], he states that he no longer wanted any part of the operation. He also reveals that at one point he had arranged for a moderator who lived near Chris to drive to him when [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] died so Chris could be swiftly moved into an assisted living facility.

==Later Developments==
===The 'Teen Troon Squad' Reveals Themselves===
{{main|Teen Troon Squad#The reveal}}
On 25 [[December 2018]], a person posing as [[Magi-Chan]] posted a tweet linking to a (since taken down) Pastebin, now referred to as "The 'Teen Troon Squad' Reveals Themselves". This Pastebin elaborately doxes Lukas, one of the squad's members, revealing his birth name, home address, and a supposed phone number. Naturally, when the link was first released, there was much speculation as to who had actually written the tweet. Ultimately, it was determined that it had to have been done by someone Chris had trusted with his password; significantly narrowing down the suspect pool. Lukas would later claim that The Captain was responsible for doxxing him.

==See also==
*[[Kiwi Farms]]
*[[Idea Guys]]
*[[The Bad Beginning]]
*[[The Man in the Pickle Suit]]

== Sources ==
<references/>

{{Trolls}}
{{Not_Jerks}}
{{People}}

[[Category:Trolls]]
[[Category:Real people who have appeared in Sonichu comics]]

Joshua Moon

2019-04-25T08:43:22Z

Thnxbb: Removed redirect to Kiwi Farms#Null

{{Ongoing}}
{{quote|I systematically dismantled all these people taking advantage of him.|Null, summarizing "Operation: Kingsnake".<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJXVdmPN9jM YouTube - "Null (Owner of Kiwi Farms) talks dismantling Idea Guys"]</ref>}}

{{infobox
| title = Joshua Moon
| image = [[File:JoshuaNull.jpg|250px|center]]
|header1 = Information
|label1 = Name
|data1 = Joshua Moon
|label2 = Also known as
|data2 = "Null"
|label4 = Gender
|data4 = Male
|label6 = [[Chris and race|Race]]
|label5 = Nationality
|data5 = [[United States|American]]
|data6 = White
|label7 = Occupation
|data7 = Owner of [[Kiwi Farms]]
|
}}

'''Joshua Moon''', better known by his online alias '''"Null"''', is the current owner of [[Kiwi Farms]].

During the spring of 2018, Null began acting as [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris']] volunteer advisor, helping him by filtering his email messages to weed out [[ween]] messages from legitimate [[business]] dealings<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/posts/3470913/ Null discussing Chris' legitimate business offers]</ref>, as well as offering advice, such as warning Chris not to invade people's personal space at other conventions after Chris' behavior had gotten him [[banned|kicked out]] of [[TooManyGames]]. He had felt motivated to assist Chris after learning that [[Idea Guy|malicious weens]] had scammed Chris out of enough money to put him at risk of losing his home.<ref name="currenttroll">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-14#post-3468968 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>

==Ownership of Kiwi Farms==
{{quote|I started hosting the CWCki Forums in [[2013]]. Before [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] died, trolling Chris was particularly funny, but after Bob has died, it has become less funny and more miserable every goddamn year.|Null, on Chris' [[weens|current-day trolls]].<ref name="currenttroll">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-14#post-3468968 Null on Chris' current-day trolling]</ref>}}
{{main|Kiwi Farms}}
Previously existing as a Chris-focused message board in various iterations, in February 2015 the CWCki Forums was consolidated into the Kiwi Farms, shifting focus away from just Chris. Null is the current owner of the site, though has often referred to Chris as a "dead cow".<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/idea-guy-joshua-wise-manipulating-the-intellecutally-disabled-for-fun-megathread.37132/post-2988715 Null deems Chris a "dead cow"]</ref> Until [[2018]], he rarely interacted directly with Chris.

===Fundraiser===
[[File:BBOSBox.jpg|thumb|200px|The Kiwi Farms care package.]]
[[File:BBOSLetter.jpg|thumb|200px|The smaller items included, including a letter.]]
In 2014, after Chris [[14_Branchland_Court#Destruction_of_the_Chandler_Household|accidentally burned down his house]], Null sympathized, as he himself had suffered a house fire in his youth. He organized a fundraiser on the forum that resulted in several hundred dollars worth of supplies being sent as a care package for Chris to get on his feet again, with the remainder of the amount sent as a money order. Mistakenly thinking that the money order was signed incorrectly (and thus rendered useless), Chris insulted Null by calling him a "[[Wikipedia:Dodo|Dodo]] brain" on Facebook.<ref>[[January 2014 Facebook Posts#Hey, Dodo Brain!]]</ref> In 2017, Chris piled on by tweeting "Null is a dull lull; [[random-access humor|LOL]].<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts]]</ref>"

==Rescue from the Idea Guys==
In late [[April 2018]], [[Anna McLerran]] contacted [[The Captain]] stating that she was worried Chris was being actively manipulated.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref> She was unable to get any confirmation, however, due to Chris refusing to give any information. In response, "Operation Kingsnake" began.

===Discovery of the Idea Guys===
Based off of this information, The Captain began attempting to contact Chris. He was eventually able to gain his trust, but only by playing along to his [[Chris and reality|delusional beliefs]]. Chris then revealed to him that he was in a top-secret [[Discord]] chat with the [[Idea Guys]] on a separate account they had created for him. At this point, with the coaching of [[The Man in the Pickle Suit|Marvin]], The Captain had multiple conversations with Chris in which he attempted to convince him that the Idea Guys were bad people who had only hurt “fake” characters. Chris eventually came to believe him, but only after using his “mind powers”.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref> In response, he gave The Captain full control to his accounts so he could gather evidence against the Idea guys.

===Infiltration===
[[File:IdeaGuyDiscords.jpg|thumb|250px|left|A screenshot by [[The Captain]] revealing the profiles of all the [[Idea Guys]].]]
When The Captain first logged in to Chris’ [[Discord]] account, he was overwhelmed by how far the Idea Guys had gone to take advantage of Chris. Their tactics ranged from extortion, to threats, and even blackmail. When he once again went to Marvin with this information, he began coaching The Captain on what to do. To stall the Idea Guys so they could collected evidence, the two began roleplaying in the server as Chris. This stalling lasted upwards of a week. Whenever the Idea Guys asked The Captain something he didn’t know, The Captain would ask Marvin and Chris for direction and then reply accordingly. At one point during the week, the Idea Guys became suspicious, and asked Chris to post photographic evidence to prove that he was indeed himself. They quickly had Chris take this photograph for them, writing their desired message on a dry erase board. They were also able to collect the IPs of [[Idea Guys#Identities|Wise and Boyd]] using an IP tracer, as well as a third unidentified Idea Guy.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551849 The Captain reveals the Idea Guys' Discord]</ref> During this time, Chris was told to take a break from the internet for a week, to which he complied. He spent that week catching up on the shows Wise and Boyd had “banned” him from watching, which included [[My Little Pony]] and “nearly everything on Crunchy Roll”.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

Eventually, Marvin managed to build a script that would rip the server's chat logs from Discord, amounting to hundreds of pages of the Idea Guys' debauchery. Once all the images and chat logs had been saved, Chris’ Discord account went silent. A couple of days later, Wise and Boyd realized what this inactivity implied, and attempted to sanitize the server. They banned Chris from the channel, and began deleting every private message they had sent him, one by one. For them, however, it was already too late.<ref name="a">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551625 The Captain's 11 July 2018 Post]</ref>

===Extortion===
[[File:IdeaGuyReceipts1.jpg|thumb|250px|Receipts of items Chris bought for Wise and Boyd.]]
{{main|Idea Guys#Extortion}}
{{quote|I get that $6000 isn't the white collar crime that brings down the hammer, but we're talking about unhinged lunatics who are coaxing mentally ill people into punching themselves.|Null, describing his frustrations with law enforcement.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>}}

Midway through their infiltration of the Idea Guys’ [[Discord]], Joshua Moon (better known by his alias “Null”) was brought into the process. As more information poured in, he personally became involved, filing reports with the FBI, Green County Sheriff, and even calling Boyd’s mother. Chris began taking steps to assist any future investigation, getting a new phone number, and forwarding Null, Marvin and The Captain any and all suspicious incoming messages. They gave the three full access to all of his accounts. Chris also began collecting all of his receipts from Food Lion, which he had used to purchase Amazon/GameStop gift cards for the Idea Guys with. He also took screenshots of his GameStop order history to prove that he had purchased PS Vitas and other items to Wise and Boyd’s personal addresses. In total, the Idea Guys had extorted approximately $6000 from Chris. This resulted in Chris facing serious monetary issues.

Strangely, to this day law enforcement have yet to act on any of Null’s reports. Green County Sheriff Steven S. Smith refused to act, stating that it was Chris’ choice to shit on the floor. The FBI was sent his IC3 twice (once online, another in-person by Chris) but no action was ever taken. Thus, Wise and Boyd have yet to face any legal repercussions for their extortion and blackmailing of an exceptional individual.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

==Protection from future trolls==
===Email monitoring===
[[File:NullvulgarWeen.jpg|thumb|250px|Null angrily insulting a [[ween]] with racial epithets.]]
[[File:CWC drawing for Joshua Moon.jpg|thumb|250px|The 'dull lull' himself.]]
{{quote|Null has the passwords to the accounts. He checks shit, deletes shit. Chris doesn't act on any messages unless Null gives it the OK first.|Marvin, describing "Operation: Guard dog".<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>}}
After the Idea Guys were successfully removed from power, Chris began speaking to Null, Marvin and The Captain regularly. They began actively monitoring his accounts, with Null personally reviewing all of Chris’ emails.<ref name="marvinqna">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3553571 Marvin answers questions regarding OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref><ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/ OPERATION: Kingsnake]</ref>
This lead to Chris and the three becoming on very friendly terms, with Chris even drawing Null his very own original [[My Little Pony]] character. They also began coaching Chris on how to better protect his social media, though their efforts were most likely in vein.

===Publications===
{{see also|Idea Guys#Gallery of leaked content}}

Null has written and published a handful of articles onto Kiwi Farms regarding the content retrieved during their infiltration of the [[Idea Guys|Idea Guys']] discord server.

On 11 [[July 2018]], Null released his account of the dismantling of the Idea Guys onto Kiwi Farms, dubbing the group “The Chris-Chan Extortionists”. Written for a broader audience, he reveals to what extent the Idea Guys had manipulated Chris, and his frustration with law enforcement’s inaction.<ref name="extortionpost">[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/post-3551811 The Chris-Chan Extortionists]</ref>

On 13 [[July 2018]], Null released [[Cryzel Torture]], a nine-hour-long chatlog in which Wise and Stephen Boyd berate Chris and continue to convince him that his characters were being tortured.

On 19 [[July 2018]], Null posted [[The Bad Beginning]], the first 9 hour and 15 minute long text conversation found in the Idea Guys' Discord server.

===Alienation from Chris===
{{Infobox/video
| name = Summary of Guard Dog Saga (and other commentaries)
| video = {{#ev:youtube|iJXVdmPN9jM}}
| stardate = 26 [[November 2018]]
| Saga = {{Guard Dog|text}}
| other = {{Audio|text}}
}}

Inevitably, Null’s involvement in the Guarddog saga didn't last long, as Chris' incompetency pushed Null away like so many had been before. Null was quickly alienated by Chris due to his refusal to play along with the [[Dimensional Merge]], and as a result, he lost much of the sympathy he initially held for Chris. In a livestream from [[November 2018]], he states that he no longer wanted any part of the operation. He also reveals that at one point he had arranged for a moderator who lived near Chris to drive to him when [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]] died so Chris could be swiftly moved into an assisted living facility.

==Later Developments==
===The 'Teen Troon Squad' Reveals Themselves===
{{main|Teen Troon Squad#The reveal}}
On 25 [[December 2018]], a person posing as [[Magi-Chan]] posted a tweet linking to a (since taken down) Pastebin, now referred to as "The 'Teen Troon Squad' Reveals Themselves". This Pastebin elaborately doxes Lukas, one of the squad's members, revealing his birth name, home address, and a supposed phone number. Naturally, when the link was first released, there was much speculation as to who had actually written the tweet. Ultimately, it was determined that it had to have been done by someone Chris had trusted with his password; significantly narrowing down the suspect pool. Lukas would later claim that The Captain was responsible for doxxing him.

==See also==
*[[Kiwi Farms]]
*[[Idea Guys]]
*[[The Bad Beginning]]
*[[The Man in the Pickle Suit]]

== Sources ==
<references/>

{{Trolls}}
{{Not_Jerks}}
{{People}}

[[Category:Trolls]]
[[Category:Real people who have appeared in Sonichu comics]]

Talk:Joshua Moon

2019-04-25T08:42:27Z

Thnxbb:

File:NullvulgarWeen.jpg

2019-04-25T08:04:53Z

Thnxbb:

File:IdeaGuyDiscords.jpg

2019-04-25T07:39:42Z

Thnxbb:

File:NullDestroyed.png

2019-04-25T06:54:14Z

Thnxbb:

File:JoshuaNull.jpg

2019-04-25T06:37:46Z

Thnxbb:

Talk:April 2019 social media posts

2019-04-22T22:54:23Z

Thnxbb:

Hey y'all, I wanted to do a test drive with the wiki formatting before I got into May 2019, any feedback on how I'm doing and any changes you want me to make to how I do things would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Duff101|Duff101]] ([[User talk:Duff101|talk]]) 20:15, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

I think this looks really nice. Good job! [[User:Thnxbb|Thnxbb]] ([[User talk:Thnxbb|talk]]) 22:54, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

TheCWCvilleLibrary

2019-04-21T16:57:34Z

Thnxbb: /* External links */

[[File:Curators.PNG|thumb|Max and Abejita, the two curators.]]

'''TheCWCvilleLibrary''' was a [[YouTube]] account that began as the final project of the now-retired Arjen Van Dierten when [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s antics drove Arjen to [[Chris and death|Valhalla]].

The Library was last run by The Curators, led by head curator [[User:Shiny Marshtomp|Abejita Cortez]] (a frantic [[Spanish|Guatemalan]]), after the first head curator, [[BlueSpike|Max Milvania]], found himself in trouble with [[Jerkop|authorities]] back in the former Soviet state of Georgia for his involvement with Georgia's breakaway Republic of [[Molvanîa]]; he was since re-instated as a Curator that handled [[Sign Destruction Video|uploading things]] when the head curator was out.

The confines of the Library contained everything Arjen (and now The Curators) has ever archived of Christian from the latest and not-so-greatest to a [[Chris humps his PS3|few rare gems]].

In [[December 2015]], TheCWCvilleLibrary was unexpectedly terminated, leaving thousands of Chris videos being taken down for good, including many that haven't been reuploaded. However, it appears to been resurrected in June 2016, leaking out [[Women Only Need Apply - No STD's|Stephanie Bustcakes]].

==Origins==
[[Image:AVDierten icon.jpg|thumb|Arjen's modest CWC video mirror channel would become the ultimate repository for all Chris-related videos.]]

Initially, Chris blocked comments and ratings on his entries and deleted his [[videos]] at whim, forcing the patriotic Arjen to post mirrors of deleted CWC videos on YouTube with annotations for our [[Laughs Under Lucricities|lulz]]. At some point around the end of [[2008]], Chris allowed comments, but he continued deleting his videos with little or no warning. Ironically, he kept that [[Don't Trust Any Homos Over There|gay-bashing video]], just to show everyone [[I'm Sorry, Dude|his apology]] for making it was insincere.

==Formation==
On 14 [[June 2009]], Arjen's final project, TheCWCvilleLibrary, received the last (at that point) 69 videos from his solo account. When Chris uploaded two new videos later that night, they went straight into the Library, bypassing the solo account entirely. Arjen then changed his profile to read [[Niggos|"The Pool is Closed,"]] and he then explained the existence and purpose of the Library to both [[ED]] and [[/cwc/]], lest anyone believe it was yet just another person trying to steal Arjen's thunder.

Two weeks later, AVD posted what would be his final missive<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dOMnum-id4]</ref> to both Chris and the [[Chris and the Internet|Internet]].

After Chris [[100 2357.MOV|quit the Internet]] and deleted almost all of his videos on 22 [[November 2010]], TheCWCvilleLibrary remained the only online source for earlier Chris-Chan videos that haven't been mirrored to death by other users, and from 27 [[July 2011]] the only source for [[Liquid Chris|Liquid]] videos as well.

Although Chris returned to the internet again in [[August 2011]], some of Chris's videos were flagged and taken down for hate speech. These videos were only available on TheCWCvilleLibrary.

==Future==
In December 2015, TheCWCvilleLibrary was unexpectedly terminated on YouTube. It is unknown why this is the case but some suspect this was likely the work of [[weens]] flagging some of the channel's videos. Luckily, the mirror on the Internet Archive remains online, available to all who are curious about the manchild.

The channel also has a spiritual successor, '''The CWCville Auditorium''', which is currently archiving all of Chris's videos on YouTube.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeWk3G3Zc7SOkpMuWj0ZULQ/videos]</ref>

TheCWCvilleLibrary appears to have been resuscitated in June 2016 bringing us [[Women Only Need Apply - No STD's|Stephanie Bustcakes]].

==References==
<references/>

==External links==
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20150818203141/https://www.youtube.com/user/TheCWCvilleLibrary The original, now dead archived channel]
* [https://archive.org/details/yt-TheCWCvilleLibrary Mirror of TheCWCvilleLibrary] on the Internet Archive

{{people}}

[[Category:Not TRUE and ORIGINAL]]
[[Category:Trolls]]

TheCWCvilleLibrary

2019-04-21T16:56:53Z

Thnxbb:

[[File:Curators.PNG|thumb|Max and Abejita, the two curators.]]

'''TheCWCvilleLibrary''' was a [[YouTube]] account that began as the final project of the now-retired Arjen Van Dierten when [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s antics drove Arjen to [[Chris and death|Valhalla]].

The Library was last run by The Curators, led by head curator [[User:Shiny Marshtomp|Abejita Cortez]] (a frantic [[Spanish|Guatemalan]]), after the first head curator, [[BlueSpike|Max Milvania]], found himself in trouble with [[Jerkop|authorities]] back in the former Soviet state of Georgia for his involvement with Georgia's breakaway Republic of [[Molvanîa]]; he was since re-instated as a Curator that handled [[Sign Destruction Video|uploading things]] when the head curator was out.

The confines of the Library contained everything Arjen (and now The Curators) has ever archived of Christian from the latest and not-so-greatest to a [[Chris humps his PS3|few rare gems]].

In [[December 2015]], TheCWCvilleLibrary was unexpectedly terminated, leaving thousands of Chris videos being taken down for good, including many that haven't been reuploaded. However, it appears to been resurrected in June 2016, leaking out [[Women Only Need Apply - No STD's|Stephanie Bustcakes]].

==Origins==
[[Image:AVDierten icon.jpg|thumb|Arjen's modest CWC video mirror channel would become the ultimate repository for all Chris-related videos.]]

Initially, Chris blocked comments and ratings on his entries and deleted his [[videos]] at whim, forcing the patriotic Arjen to post mirrors of deleted CWC videos on YouTube with annotations for our [[Laughs Under Lucricities|lulz]]. At some point around the end of [[2008]], Chris allowed comments, but he continued deleting his videos with little or no warning. Ironically, he kept that [[Don't Trust Any Homos Over There|gay-bashing video]], just to show everyone [[I'm Sorry, Dude|his apology]] for making it was insincere.

==Formation==
On 14 [[June 2009]], Arjen's final project, TheCWCvilleLibrary, received the last (at that point) 69 videos from his solo account. When Chris uploaded two new videos later that night, they went straight into the Library, bypassing the solo account entirely. Arjen then changed his profile to read [[Niggos|"The Pool is Closed,"]] and he then explained the existence and purpose of the Library to both [[ED]] and [[/cwc/]], lest anyone believe it was yet just another person trying to steal Arjen's thunder.

Two weeks later, AVD posted what would be his final missive<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dOMnum-id4]</ref> to both Chris and the [[Chris and the Internet|Internet]].

After Chris [[100 2357.MOV|quit the Internet]] and deleted almost all of his videos on 22 [[November 2010]], TheCWCvilleLibrary remained the only online source for earlier Chris-Chan videos that haven't been mirrored to death by other users, and from 27 [[July 2011]] the only source for [[Liquid Chris|Liquid]] videos as well.

Although Chris returned to the internet again in [[August 2011]], some of Chris's videos were flagged and taken down for hate speech. These videos were only available on TheCWCvilleLibrary.

==Future==
In December 2015, TheCWCvilleLibrary was unexpectedly terminated on YouTube. It is unknown why this is the case but some suspect this was likely the work of [[weens]] flagging some of the channel's videos. Luckily, the mirror on the Internet Archive remains online, available to all who are curious about the manchild.

The channel also has a spiritual successor, '''The CWCville Auditorium''', which is currently archiving all of Chris's videos on YouTube.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeWk3G3Zc7SOkpMuWj0ZULQ/videos]</ref>

TheCWCvilleLibrary appears to have been resuscitated in June 2016 bringing us [[Women Only Need Apply - No STD's|Stephanie Bustcakes]].

==References==
<references/>

==External links==
* [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCthUP5UT0_MYp-aOp0EzmIg TheCWCvilleLibrary] on [[YouTube]]
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20150818203141/https://www.youtube.com/user/TheCWCvilleLibrary The original, now dead archived channel]
* [https://archive.org/details/yt-TheCWCvilleLibrary Mirror of TheCWCvilleLibrary] on the Internet Archive

{{people}}

[[Category:Not TRUE and ORIGINAL]]
[[Category:Trolls]]

CWCFlyingElephants

2019-04-20T23:11:52Z

Thnxbb: /* Uncensored Video */

{{Honest}}

[[Image:Cwcspin.gif|right|frame|This video, quite clearly indeed, shows Chris's horrendous man-ass.]]

"'''CWCFlyingElephants'''" is a seven-minute video made by [[Chris]], and published by [[The Miscreants]] on 27 [[April 2009]]. Chris made this "crazy nudie audition," as he dubbed it, for [[gal-pal]] [[Vanessa Hudgens]]. It shows Chris in his room, naked, displaying a show of what he calls [[random-access humor]]. Chris runs, twirls, acts crazy and does handstands while [[nudes|completely in the nude]]. In addition, he [[parody|imitates]] lines from ''[[Wikipedia:Ed, Edd n Eddy|Ed, Edd, n Eddy]]'', quotes ''[[Monty Python]]'', plays with [[toys]], and throws around [[Li'l Chris]].

==Videos==
===Audio-Only Video===
{{Infobox/video
| name = CWCFlyingElephants (Audio-Only)
| video = {{#ev:youtube|x1C32vxJxOY}}
| stardate = 27 [[April 2009]]
| style = {{Crazy|text}}, {{Comedy|text}}
| shirt = [[Image:Creepyrobe.PNG]] Creepy Robe
| other = {{Leaked|text}}
| previous = [[Power]]
| next = [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009]]
}}

===Censored Video===
{{Infobox/video
| name = CWCFlyingElephants (Censored)
| video = {{#ev:youtube|eKrl7SA0Myo}}
| stardate = 27 [[April 2009]]
| style = {{Crazy|text}}, {{Comedy|text}}
| shirt = [[Image:Creepyrobe.PNG]] Creepy Robe
| other = {{Leaked|text}}
| previous = [[Power]]
| next = [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009]]
}}

===Uncensored Video===
{{Infobox/video
| name = CWCFlyingElephants (Uncensored NSFW)
| video = {{#ev:archiveorg|CWCFlyingElephants}}
| stardate = 27 [[April 2009]]
| style = {{Crazy|text}}, {{Comedy|text}}
| shirt = [[Image:Creepyrobe.PNG]] Creepy Robe
| other = {{Leaked|text}}
| previous = [[Power]]
| next = [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009]]
}}

=== Transcript ===
[''Chris is standing in front of the camera wearing a bath robe. He briefly raises his eyebrows.'']

And now for [[Somecummpentydifferent|something completely different]]. [''removes his robe, revealing he is not wearing a shirt''] BUUUUNG! And now, [''in a deep voice''] it's...[''normal voice''] ''[[Monty Python]]'s Flying Elephants''! [''poorly imitates the series' theme song, "The Liberty Bell"'']

[''spoken frequently fast and high-pitched''] [[Johan]], why is people running away? I don't know, Greeg, why is people running away? Johan! Johan, why is people running away? I don't know, Johan! Greeg! Johan! Johan! Why is people running away? I don't know, buddy Greeg. Johan! Johan, why is people running away? I don't know, Greeg. Johan, Johan, why is people running away? [''slaps himself on the side of the head''] SHUT UP! You're driving me crazy!

[''begins to let out muffled screams as he runs towards the door of his room, shaking the door knob as if it were locked. This also reveals the fact he is '''completely nude.''' He then pauses as he suddenly looks at something on the shelf.''] Hm! [''removes a magazine from the shelf''] [[Star Wars|It's a trap!]] [''throws the magazine on the table before he starts constipatedly screaming again. He runs towards the door again, but seems to injure himself against something on the wall, crouching down to the floor in pain immediately after.'']

[''Jump cut to Chris standing in front of the camera, still nude.''] And now for something cuppity different, a man impersonating [[South Park|Towelie the Towel]]. [''begins imitating''] Oh my goodness, [[Un-clit|My]] [[China|pussy]] [[Tomgirl Pictures|is wet]]! Don't forget to bring a towel! What? When your pussy is wet, and you don't want to lose a bet, you want to dry yourself up right away! [''mimics flossing a towel between his legs''] That's why Towelie says: [''raises a finger in the air''] don't forget to bring a towel! [[Yawning Squirtle|Wanna get high?]] NOOOOO! NOOO!

[''In his impersonation of the Gumbys''] I would like to meet someone of [[Autism|superior intelligence]]. I would like to hear the sound of two bricks being smashed together. I would like to see...ten million stupid monkeeeeys. I would like to see [[Chris and religion|John the Baptist]] impersonation of [[Wikipedia:Graham Hill|Graham Hill]]. Yes, it's historic impersonations!

[''Jump cut to Chris, still in the same situation.''] Full-frontal nudity? Yes, I'd do it. If it was valid. If the money was valid. I haven't had enough of the permissive society! I've heard of unisex, but I've never had it. [''slaps himself on the side of the head''] Shut up, you're driving me crazy! AAAAAAAAAGH! [''ducks below the camera's view'']

[''Jump cut to Chris kneeling on his bed, face against the blanket. He hits his face against it several times.''] I'm a woodpecker! [''resumes''] 'Cept with dirt!<ref>Originally said by Ed; originated from the ''[[Wikipedia:Ed, Edd n Eddy|Ed, Edd n Eddy]]'' episode "[http://www.tv.com/ed-edd-n-eddy/stop-look-ed/episode/123292/summary.html Stop, Look and Ed]"</ref> [''Resumes hitting his face against the bed several more times before rolling off to the side.'']

[''Jump cut to Chris doing a headstand on his sofa, completely nude, giving a full view of his [[pickle]]. After he gets back to his feet, the camera jumps to Chris facing the door of his room. He rises up.'']

Get out of my head! [''yells while spinning in circles''] HLOO! [''falls to the ground. The camera slightly shakes.'']

[''Jump cut to Chris holding a Bumblebee toy.''] And now for something completely different. Bebelapdapbambalamba. Bebelabadapbambajamba-[[Transformers|Bumblebeeee]]! [''holds out the toy''] Buzzing around. Bzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Really, [[Transformers|Prowl]]. [''holds up a Prowl toy in his other hand''] And how necessary is that side-car? Just so you can wear the helmet of your past mastaaaaaar?! [''Jump cut to Chris holding two different toys.''] Come here, [[Wikipedia:Soundwave (Transformers)|Soundwave]]. Lend me [[Wikipedia:Laserbeak|Laserbeak]]! [''pulls a piece of the toy off that looks like a guitar, and begins strumming it like it were a miniature instrument''] DIIII DIIII DIIII DIIII [[CWC More Than A Feeling|MORE THAN A FEELI-]]

[''jump cut to Chris without the toys'']

I like a nice dance, you're forced to! Otherwise...who said that? [''Starts twisting his head around.''] Who said that? Said that? Anywaaay. Who said that? There will now be a short intermission, during which small ice creams and large boxes will be served in the commissary. Another way to drive people away from the theater is to show a turfs-dispenser. Fzzzs. [''drops to the ground.''] Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. [[White knight|Pearls before swine]] presents!

[''Jump cut to Chris standing with his arms spread.''] The like, do you like this model, or how about this model? I'll give you a [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|karate-kick]] for your money. Hyaah! [''kicks at the camera''] I'll give you a punch, and a whiz-bang, and a boom! [''punches at the air several times''] All you got to do is come down here.

[''Jump cut to Chris doing his [[Donald Duck impersonation]]''] Oh my gosh, look at me! I'm naked! I forgot my [[Sailor Moon|sailor suit]], and my hat, and [[Duck|apparatus]]. I don't know, but I guess. [''reaches off screen and shows his clothing on camera''] Here's what I have to do. Here's my clothes. Bwaa. I went out of the cartoon.

[''Jump cut to Chris with a T-shirt wrapped around his face. He imitates [[South Park|Kenny]].''] Hmmph, rmmph. Hmmph, rmmph. Hmmph, rmmph. Hmmph, rmmph. Excuse me, what did you say? Hmmph, rmmph.

[''Jump cut to Chris no longer wearing it.''] Hey [[South Park|Kenny]], you get out here, you take off that stupid little orange or blue jacket, or whatever the hell color it is you wear, and talk to people like you every real life, don't just mumble your words.

[''Cue another jump cut.''] Hey dude, that's not cool.

[''holding a can of Pepsi.''] Yep. Yep. Yep. Mm-hm. [''Imitating Hank Hill; jump cut to Chris taking a sip of Pepsi, then gasping. Jump cut to Chris without the Pepsi''] Product placement, eh--product placement in this program is hereby endorsed and provided by the studio, which is provided from the companies of which those products became, originated from, thereof. Another way we can drive people away from the studio is to act. Like. A. Loony!

[''Cue another jump cut.''] I once knew a man from Nantucket, he has on his head, a silly bucket. And now I have on my head, [''grabs a teddy bear''] a [[Li'l Chris|silly little bear]], I'm wearing [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|clean underwear]]. Wearing clean underwear like I just don't care. [''squeezes the bear's paw and it starts to speak'']

Wow, he just said what I said. I'm undecided! [''throws the bear and begins screaming and running around his room again. He lifts a chair, looks at the camera, then lowers it''] HNNNNG! HNNNNNNNNNNNNNG! PFOOP! [''falls to the ground, shaking the camera. Jump cut to Chris' foot in the air, with a sock on.''] Hm, I guess he's done left the studio for now. Well, that's all folks. Du du du du du du du du. Du du du du du du du du. [[Pedofork|Pedi]] pedi di di. Plong. ['' other foot joins in''] LILILILILILILILI! Plonk.

[''Jump cut to Chris, standing up.''] Indeed. Indeed. Indeed. Indeed. Indeed. Moola moola moola. He must be asking for a [[Monthly tugboat|handout]]. Indeed. And now it's the indeed show, starring [[Gilligan's Island|Mr. Thurston Howell III]]. Indeed. Indeed. [''The video used in this article ends with a cut to black, then a zoom-in on Chris's face while he makes a noise.'']

==Fan Videos==
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = Chris-Chan's CWCFlyingElephants Reversed
| video = {{#ev:youtube|l_eiCNjO8hU}}
| stardate = 23 [[October 2017]]
| maker = [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuObAUCueXDNZpyhljfQ_kQ Craig Smith]
| subject =
| type =
| info = [[Random-Access Humor]] at its finest, now backwards!
}}

== Sources ==
<references/>

==See also==
*[[Random-access humor]]
*[[Monty Python]]
*[[I Got A Fish]]
*[[Bunny Hop]]
*[[Nudes]]
*[[CWC 3D Voice Check]]

==External links==
* [http://www.slutload.com/video/chrischan-completely-different/L0fBdcFOo0wV/ Uncensored version] (NSFW, of course)

{{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[Power]]|nextlink=[[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009]]|}}

{{LeakedVideos}}

[[Category:Chris-chan videos, April 2009| 2009-04-27]]
[[Category:Certain videos of the naughty nature| 2009-04-27]]

CWCFlyingElephants

2019-04-20T23:11:25Z

Thnxbb: /* Uncensored Video */

{{Honest}}

[[Image:Cwcspin.gif|right|frame|This video, quite clearly indeed, shows Chris's horrendous man-ass.]]

"'''CWCFlyingElephants'''" is a seven-minute video made by [[Chris]], and published by [[The Miscreants]] on 27 [[April 2009]]. Chris made this "crazy nudie audition," as he dubbed it, for [[gal-pal]] [[Vanessa Hudgens]]. It shows Chris in his room, naked, displaying a show of what he calls [[random-access humor]]. Chris runs, twirls, acts crazy and does handstands while [[nudes|completely in the nude]]. In addition, he [[parody|imitates]] lines from ''[[Wikipedia:Ed, Edd n Eddy|Ed, Edd, n Eddy]]'', quotes ''[[Monty Python]]'', plays with [[toys]], and throws around [[Li'l Chris]].

==Videos==
===Audio-Only Video===
{{Infobox/video
| name = CWCFlyingElephants (Audio-Only)
| video = {{#ev:youtube|x1C32vxJxOY}}
| stardate = 27 [[April 2009]]
| style = {{Crazy|text}}, {{Comedy|text}}
| shirt = [[Image:Creepyrobe.PNG]] Creepy Robe
| other = {{Leaked|text}}
| previous = [[Power]]
| next = [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009]]
}}

===Censored Video===
{{Infobox/video
| name = CWCFlyingElephants (Censored)
| video = {{#ev:youtube|eKrl7SA0Myo}}
| stardate = 27 [[April 2009]]
| style = {{Crazy|text}}, {{Comedy|text}}
| shirt = [[Image:Creepyrobe.PNG]] Creepy Robe
| other = {{Leaked|text}}
| previous = [[Power]]
| next = [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009]]
}}

===Uncensored Video===
{{Deletedvideo}}
{{Infobox/video
| name = CWCFlyingElephants (Uncensored NSFW)
| video = {{#ev:archiveorg|CWCFlyingElephants}}
| stardate = 27 [[April 2009]]
| style = {{Crazy|text}}, {{Comedy|text}}
| shirt = [[Image:Creepyrobe.PNG]] Creepy Robe
| other = {{Leaked|text}}
| previous = [[Power]]
| next = [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009]]
}}

=== Transcript ===
[''Chris is standing in front of the camera wearing a bath robe. He briefly raises his eyebrows.'']

And now for [[Somecummpentydifferent|something completely different]]. [''removes his robe, revealing he is not wearing a shirt''] BUUUUNG! And now, [''in a deep voice''] it's...[''normal voice''] ''[[Monty Python]]'s Flying Elephants''! [''poorly imitates the series' theme song, "The Liberty Bell"'']

[''spoken frequently fast and high-pitched''] [[Johan]], why is people running away? I don't know, Greeg, why is people running away? Johan! Johan, why is people running away? I don't know, Johan! Greeg! Johan! Johan! Why is people running away? I don't know, buddy Greeg. Johan! Johan, why is people running away? I don't know, Greeg. Johan, Johan, why is people running away? [''slaps himself on the side of the head''] SHUT UP! You're driving me crazy!

[''begins to let out muffled screams as he runs towards the door of his room, shaking the door knob as if it were locked. This also reveals the fact he is '''completely nude.''' He then pauses as he suddenly looks at something on the shelf.''] Hm! [''removes a magazine from the shelf''] [[Star Wars|It's a trap!]] [''throws the magazine on the table before he starts constipatedly screaming again. He runs towards the door again, but seems to injure himself against something on the wall, crouching down to the floor in pain immediately after.'']

[''Jump cut to Chris standing in front of the camera, still nude.''] And now for something cuppity different, a man impersonating [[South Park|Towelie the Towel]]. [''begins imitating''] Oh my goodness, [[Un-clit|My]] [[China|pussy]] [[Tomgirl Pictures|is wet]]! Don't forget to bring a towel! What? When your pussy is wet, and you don't want to lose a bet, you want to dry yourself up right away! [''mimics flossing a towel between his legs''] That's why Towelie says: [''raises a finger in the air''] don't forget to bring a towel! [[Yawning Squirtle|Wanna get high?]] NOOOOO! NOOO!

[''In his impersonation of the Gumbys''] I would like to meet someone of [[Autism|superior intelligence]]. I would like to hear the sound of two bricks being smashed together. I would like to see...ten million stupid monkeeeeys. I would like to see [[Chris and religion|John the Baptist]] impersonation of [[Wikipedia:Graham Hill|Graham Hill]]. Yes, it's historic impersonations!

[''Jump cut to Chris, still in the same situation.''] Full-frontal nudity? Yes, I'd do it. If it was valid. If the money was valid. I haven't had enough of the permissive society! I've heard of unisex, but I've never had it. [''slaps himself on the side of the head''] Shut up, you're driving me crazy! AAAAAAAAAGH! [''ducks below the camera's view'']

[''Jump cut to Chris kneeling on his bed, face against the blanket. He hits his face against it several times.''] I'm a woodpecker! [''resumes''] 'Cept with dirt!<ref>Originally said by Ed; originated from the ''[[Wikipedia:Ed, Edd n Eddy|Ed, Edd n Eddy]]'' episode "[http://www.tv.com/ed-edd-n-eddy/stop-look-ed/episode/123292/summary.html Stop, Look and Ed]"</ref> [''Resumes hitting his face against the bed several more times before rolling off to the side.'']

[''Jump cut to Chris doing a headstand on his sofa, completely nude, giving a full view of his [[pickle]]. After he gets back to his feet, the camera jumps to Chris facing the door of his room. He rises up.'']

Get out of my head! [''yells while spinning in circles''] HLOO! [''falls to the ground. The camera slightly shakes.'']

[''Jump cut to Chris holding a Bumblebee toy.''] And now for something completely different. Bebelapdapbambalamba. Bebelabadapbambajamba-[[Transformers|Bumblebeeee]]! [''holds out the toy''] Buzzing around. Bzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Really, [[Transformers|Prowl]]. [''holds up a Prowl toy in his other hand''] And how necessary is that side-car? Just so you can wear the helmet of your past mastaaaaaar?! [''Jump cut to Chris holding two different toys.''] Come here, [[Wikipedia:Soundwave (Transformers)|Soundwave]]. Lend me [[Wikipedia:Laserbeak|Laserbeak]]! [''pulls a piece of the toy off that looks like a guitar, and begins strumming it like it were a miniature instrument''] DIIII DIIII DIIII DIIII [[CWC More Than A Feeling|MORE THAN A FEELI-]]

[''jump cut to Chris without the toys'']

I like a nice dance, you're forced to! Otherwise...who said that? [''Starts twisting his head around.''] Who said that? Said that? Anywaaay. Who said that? There will now be a short intermission, during which small ice creams and large boxes will be served in the commissary. Another way to drive people away from the theater is to show a turfs-dispenser. Fzzzs. [''drops to the ground.''] Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. [[White knight|Pearls before swine]] presents!

[''Jump cut to Chris standing with his arms spread.''] The like, do you like this model, or how about this model? I'll give you a [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|karate-kick]] for your money. Hyaah! [''kicks at the camera''] I'll give you a punch, and a whiz-bang, and a boom! [''punches at the air several times''] All you got to do is come down here.

[''Jump cut to Chris doing his [[Donald Duck impersonation]]''] Oh my gosh, look at me! I'm naked! I forgot my [[Sailor Moon|sailor suit]], and my hat, and [[Duck|apparatus]]. I don't know, but I guess. [''reaches off screen and shows his clothing on camera''] Here's what I have to do. Here's my clothes. Bwaa. I went out of the cartoon.

[''Jump cut to Chris with a T-shirt wrapped around his face. He imitates [[South Park|Kenny]].''] Hmmph, rmmph. Hmmph, rmmph. Hmmph, rmmph. Hmmph, rmmph. Excuse me, what did you say? Hmmph, rmmph.

[''Jump cut to Chris no longer wearing it.''] Hey [[South Park|Kenny]], you get out here, you take off that stupid little orange or blue jacket, or whatever the hell color it is you wear, and talk to people like you every real life, don't just mumble your words.

[''Cue another jump cut.''] Hey dude, that's not cool.

[''holding a can of Pepsi.''] Yep. Yep. Yep. Mm-hm. [''Imitating Hank Hill; jump cut to Chris taking a sip of Pepsi, then gasping. Jump cut to Chris without the Pepsi''] Product placement, eh--product placement in this program is hereby endorsed and provided by the studio, which is provided from the companies of which those products became, originated from, thereof. Another way we can drive people away from the studio is to act. Like. A. Loony!

[''Cue another jump cut.''] I once knew a man from Nantucket, he has on his head, a silly bucket. And now I have on my head, [''grabs a teddy bear''] a [[Li'l Chris|silly little bear]], I'm wearing [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|clean underwear]]. Wearing clean underwear like I just don't care. [''squeezes the bear's paw and it starts to speak'']

Wow, he just said what I said. I'm undecided! [''throws the bear and begins screaming and running around his room again. He lifts a chair, looks at the camera, then lowers it''] HNNNNG! HNNNNNNNNNNNNNG! PFOOP! [''falls to the ground, shaking the camera. Jump cut to Chris' foot in the air, with a sock on.''] Hm, I guess he's done left the studio for now. Well, that's all folks. Du du du du du du du du. Du du du du du du du du. [[Pedofork|Pedi]] pedi di di. Plong. ['' other foot joins in''] LILILILILILILILI! Plonk.

[''Jump cut to Chris, standing up.''] Indeed. Indeed. Indeed. Indeed. Indeed. Moola moola moola. He must be asking for a [[Monthly tugboat|handout]]. Indeed. And now it's the indeed show, starring [[Gilligan's Island|Mr. Thurston Howell III]]. Indeed. Indeed. [''The video used in this article ends with a cut to black, then a zoom-in on Chris's face while he makes a noise.'']

==Fan Videos==
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = Chris-Chan's CWCFlyingElephants Reversed
| video = {{#ev:youtube|l_eiCNjO8hU}}
| stardate = 23 [[October 2017]]
| maker = [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuObAUCueXDNZpyhljfQ_kQ Craig Smith]
| subject =
| type =
| info = [[Random-Access Humor]] at its finest, now backwards!
}}

== Sources ==
<references/>

==See also==
*[[Random-access humor]]
*[[Monty Python]]
*[[I Got A Fish]]
*[[Bunny Hop]]
*[[Nudes]]
*[[CWC 3D Voice Check]]

==External links==
* [http://www.slutload.com/video/chrischan-completely-different/L0fBdcFOo0wV/ Uncensored version] (NSFW, of course)

{{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[Power]]|nextlink=[[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009]]|}}

{{LeakedVideos}}

[[Category:Chris-chan videos, April 2009| 2009-04-27]]
[[Category:Certain videos of the naughty nature| 2009-04-27]]

Autism

2019-04-20T16:27:23Z

Thnxbb:

:''For the song, see [[A-U-T-I-S-M]].''

{{Articleofthenow}}

[[File:Auti.PNG|center]]

{{quote|'''I am Sometimes Retarded'''.|[[Chris]], on himself.<ref>6th paragraph down: http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Homosexuality</ref>}}
{{quote|I'm POSSIBLY [[slow-in-the-minds|retarded]]...|Chris on his autism, [[Mumble 9.5]]}}
{{quote|I'M RETARDED.|Chris, [[exposing Jeff]].}}

[[Image:086-BionicFlag.jpg|thumb|200px|[[Bionic the Hedgehog]] "conquering" autism (and "ATScI3") by confusing windmills with watermills.]]
[[Image:461-AutismFight.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris at war with autism (or "ATSIMU") in [[China]]. Too bad you can't fight cannons with [[fangs]].]]
[[Image:Autismcard.jpg|thumb|200px|He plays this card a lot.]]

'''Autism''' is a spectrum of neurological disorders involving the impairment of social interaction and communication, repetitive behavior, and restricted interests. The cause of autism is unknown, but it has been shown to have multiple genetic factors. The symptoms usually manifest before the age of 3 and are generally irreversible; there is no known cure, although the condition can be treated. Autistic individuals are generally not retarded — they mostly have average intelligence, and some are even above average — although obviously severe social impairment can coincide with stunted or delayed learning and development. [[Asperger syndrome]] is generally considered part of the autistic spectrum; individuals with Asperger syndrome generally have above-average intelligence, although they still suffer from the social and communicative impairments. Prognosis depends on the severity of the autism and the effectiveness of its treatment; autistic people may learn to live relatively normal, productive lives or they may have become so unable to function in society that they must be institutionalized.

Christian Weston Chandler has built much of his identity around being autistic. His terror of being associated with severely autistic/retarded people causes him to be overly eager to prove his basic competence and cite his success in primary and secondary education. At the same time, his pride from accomplishing these things in spite of his disability has conditioned him to demand outrageous praise for his slightest efforts and infinite patience for his gravest errors. Moreover, Chris's belief that the entire Greene County Board of Education continues to irrationally persecute him for his autism has left him suspicious of opposing points of view and resolute that anti-autistic prejudice is the reason for any of his setbacks.<ref>[[Greene_County_Conspiracy]]</ref> In short, it is impossible to understand Chris's [[Chris and anger|defensiveness]], [[stress|hypersensitivity]], [[Chris and his Ego|narcissism]], [[Chris and remorse|irresponsibility]], [[Man in the Pickle Suit|paranoia]], [[Greene County Conspiracy|victimhood]], and [[Story of My Current Days|self-pity]] without understanding his relationship with autism.

Chris not only seems to think that having autism imbues him with a [[Chris and his Ego|special significance]], but also feels that his autism is different from that of literally every other person in the world who has autism.<ref>[[Asperger_Syndrome]]</ref> Chris feels he is naturally better than everyone else and often talks down to people who display knowledge or experience of subjects he is unfamiliar with. During his conversation with [[Father_Call|Kacey's father]], Chris downplayed Kacey's knowledge of biology and healthcare despite being proven wrong mere minutes before in a debate over the genetics of autism.<ref>[[Father_call#Kacey's_boobs_and_Internet_fame]]</ref> At the same time, Chris believes he is not responsible for the majority of his mistakes. By being autistic, Chris rationalizes that it is wholly the fault of autism if he [[Twin Falling Towers|makes]] [[SheCameForCWC.jpg|poor]] [[Piedmont Virginia Community College#Kicked_out_of_college|decisions]].<ref>[[Jackie_E-mails_20]]</ref>

==High-functioning vs. low-functioning==

{{quote|He may be high functioning (which I actually doubt -- who would want to admit to thousands of strangers that they are actually severely challenged??), but that does not mean he can function like a non-mentally challenged person.|rae12, Cracked.com<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20150503081114/http://www.cracked.com/funny-3956-chris-chan/</ref>}}

Informally, autism may be subdivided into separate classifications based on the intelligence and degree of function the autistic individual possesses; for a general idea, this crude scale could have levels of high-functioning, medium-functioning, and low-functioning. Chris has latched onto this concept and will frequently qualify his condition, saying he has '''high-functioning autism''', or '''HFA'''. Generally, HFA is loosely defined as; the ability to live in the mainstream world as opposed to being institutionalized, having near-normal comprehension, demonstrating fluent speech, and possessing average or above average intellect. This presents Christian with an easy scapegoat and alibi: he cannot be blamed for his own failures because he has autism, but he does not accept treatment or advice for his "medium" or "low" level autistic traits because he's ''high-functioning'' and therefore, nearly normal.

[[Trolls]] have often noted that the "high-functioning" qualifier is '''not''' a clinical diagnosis and is '''not''' recognized by the [[Wikipedia:DSM-IV|DSM-IV-TR]] or the [[Wikipedia:ICD-10|ICD-10]]. This usually goes hand-in-hand with questioning the severity and/or diagnosis of Chris's impairment, if not outright calling him a [[List of Chris's lies|liar]]. However, the Chandlers didn't make the "HFA" label up, and compared to kids who can barely speak and just walk in circles all day, Chris is relatively close to neurotypical. Semantics aside, though, it's clear that Chris is far from normally-functioning. Only an [[Autism papers|updated]] [[28 October 2011#Arraignment, plea bargain, and sentencing|psychological profile]] would really provide insight into the complex and controversial mixture of autism and mental illness that is present within Christian.

The newer [[Wikipedia:DSM-5|DSM-5]] ''does'' distinguish different levels of severity based on the amount of support needed, but the new term is "Autism Spectrum Disorder [[Vidya|Level 1]]," not "High-Functioning Autism."

Disgustingly, but perhaps not surprisingly, Chris detests [[Slow-in-the-minds|low-functioning autistics]] in the [[Chris and hypocrisy|exact manner]] that he fears normal people will detest him. In [[Mailbag 25#High functioning babble|Mailbag 25]], he compares those with low-functioning autism with those who suffer from severe retardation or severe brain damage, thinking that they would have their arms linked together, have deformations, be confined to wheelchairs or crutches and drool and grunt and growl. He has also described them with extremely cruel and derisive terms, calling them "WINDOWS TO HELL" and compared them to "zombies".<ref>[[Mailbag_5#In which Chris speaks ill of the handicapped|Mailbag 5]]</ref><ref>[[Mailbag_11#Elevators are important for the handicapped, so they don't want any phobias|Mailbag 11]]</ref><ref>[[Mailbag_25#High functioning babble|Mailbag 25]]</ref> The irony of his resentment toward "low-functioning" autistic people is that he has a severely autistic cousin, as revealed in the [[autism papers]]; this probably means that either Chris is not aware of his own relatives (very probable), or he has disowned members of his own family on the basis of them having the same medical condition that he has (albeit more severely affected by it), being the autism-Nazi he is.<ref>[[Asperger syndrome]]</ref>

He explains that he refuses to date a girl with any form of autism because he fears that seeing them will make him think about what he might be like if he had anything other than high-functioning autism.<ref>[[Chris_chan_(CWCipedia)#Chris_Chan_on_sticking_things_up_b.2A.2A.2Ahole.|Chris chan (CWCipedia)]]</ref> Chris believes he can do much more than any low-functioning autistic could, even as he's living with [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] well into his thirties, has never had a real girlfriend or held a steady job, and [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|soils his pants]] on a semi-regular basis.<ref>[[Mumble 3]]</ref>

Still, presuming Chris is autistic, he is high-functioning since he can talk, drive, write, and draw, [[Speech impediment|even if]] [[Chris and art|he's not]] [[Son-Chu#Car trouble|the best]] [[Writing|at these things]]. However, this also means that he has the same medical condition as Temple Grandin and [[Pokémon|Satoshi Tajiri]] amongst many others, yet he has failed to do anything significant with his adult life – hence proving that his vulgarity and failure are, for the most part (this is further elaborated on below), his own fault.

{{clear}}

==Onset and diagnosis of Chris's autism==

{{quote|No one GIVES A SHIT that you are autistic, they NEVER DID.|[[Jackie E-mails 23|Jackie]], telling Chris something he'll flat out ignore.}}
[[Image:SchuComic10P09.jpg|thumb|Now GodBearJesus can't get him to shut up.]]

Chris's version of how he developed autism is best explained in the [[Song of Christian]] video. There he explains how a [[Abusive babysitter|babysitter]] locked him in a room filled with toys at around age 1 1/2. After crying for hours, he emerged from the room unable to talk; as Chris himself puts it, "[[Chris and religion|God]] put the mute button on me".<ref>[[Song of Christian#The actual poem]]</ref> (This implies that Chris could talk before this incident, which directly contradicts Chris's own parents stating that he never spoke until around the age of seven.) Most specialists claim that these symptoms of autism begin to show around that age anyway,<ref>[[wikipedia:Autism#Characteristics|Wikipedia: Characteristics of autism]]</ref> so even if the events of the story happened, the babysitter didn't cause the autism. It is far more likely that Chris's parents simply looked for anyone to blame for Chris's sudden loss of language development, even a random babysitter. Notably, Chris has diverged from this story before, having claimed at least once that he was intentionally "injected" with autism by doctors when he was a child, as if that were even possible. Nevertheless, it speaks volumes on the [[List of Chris's lies|veracity]] of the former account if he can't even keep his story straight, not to mention that Chris probably [[Naïve|has little idea on the causes of autism]] anyway.

As for how Chris ''actually'' became autistic, studies have shown that there is a [http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/news/20100208/autism-risk-rises-with-mothers-age positive correlation between the age of the mother and the risk of autism]. Given that [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] was 40 years old when she gave birth to Chris, this is a likely explanation.

It is currently unclear how Chris came to be considered as "autistic", although Chris has claimed that his parents possess official documentation about this in a safe. When pressed to release this information, he provided a [[autism papers|2004 psychiatric evaluation]] that states Chris was diagnosed with autism when he was "around age five or six". However, there's no way to be sure if the evaluator simply wrote down Chris's responses to his questions or independently verified them. (For example, Chris might not remember his exact age when he was diagnosed, but you'd think his medical records could be more precise than "five or six".) By the time of the Chandlers' legal battle with Greene County, Chris's autism seemed to have become a universally accepted fact, but the details of how, when, and where Chris was diagnosed remain a mystery.

When recounting his childhood, Chris usually skips straight from the "evil babysitter" incident to age seven, so we know very little about what (if any) treatment he received during this crucial period of development. In a [[CWCipedia]] [[mailbag]], Chris claims that when he was young, his parents were told he would never be able to read, write or function on a normal level. He and his doctors have now upgraded his condition to "high-functioning", but apparently his incredibly abysmal upbringing has actually allowed it to progress to mid-functioning at best.

In his "Song of Christian" video, he explains that his mother took him to the toy department and coaxed him to read aloud the names of Go-Bots, and later [[Transformers]]. Chris says he began speaking again when he was seven – that is, in [[1989]], when the Transformers line was on its last legs and the Go-Bots line had long since vanished. This would seem to indicate that this form of "therapy" had to have gone on for several years before producing any results.

{{clear}}

==Persecution==
Chris attended [[Greene County Primary School]], apparently without incident, from age 5 until age 9. Problems arose for him in the fourth grade at [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School]], where he alleges that the faculty wanted to remove him from mainstream classrooms and send him to what he calls an institution. He also claims that the teachers at the school held him down and recorded his screams. Chris frequently cites this as evidence that the school was senselessly cruel towards him, for no reason apparent to him except an innate fear and distrust of autistic people. More probable, given Chris's ongoing behavioral issues, is that he threw a temper tantrum so big it forced the faculty to physically restrain him, while refusing to restrain himself. There's no way to know if Greene Elementary treated Chris unfairly, but the incident does suspiciously resemble Chris's [[arrest]] in July 2005. The Chandlers sued to prevent the school board from removing Chris from mainstream education before ultimately relocating to Chesterfield County to continue Chris's mainstreaming there.

Chris frequently brings up that the reason people used to [[Kick the Autistic|be cruel to him]] in his childhood was because "they did not understand Autism". In the [[1980s]]. When autism had been known for around 40 years. When asked about why they did not understand, Chris delivers his canned response of "I do not know".

There's no way to know how much of Chris's attitude about the Greene County crisis is based on his personal recollections or what he was later told by his parents, who themselves seem unusually paranoid about the county's vendetta against their family. However, the result of the incident is clear: Chris emerged from adolescence firmly believing that many people not only misunderstand autistic people but hate and fear them. He seems to believe this prejudice is based not on a person's actions (e.g. throwing fits and irrationally screaming) but on a person's mere identification as autistic, regardless of function. Given Chris's fear of low-functioning autistics, he may in fact think this prejudice is [[Chris and hypocrisy|perfectly justified]], but wrongfully targeted at a high-functioning individual. Of course, in Chris's mind, he may as well be the only high-functioning autistic in the Universe, so he is the one and only innocent victim in "everyone's favorite game, [[Kick the Autistic]]".

Chris's tactful and sensitive comments on a news story about a woman with [[Asperger syndrome]] being raped revealed that he believes the media, like the rest of the world, has a bias against autism similar to "[[wikipedia:Missing white woman syndrome|Missing White Woman Syndrome]]", and that the story wouldn't have been reported if the victim was a woman with "proper" autism.

==Chris's symptoms==

Many [[trolls]] dispute the exact diagnosis of Chris's mental condition, on the basis that his observed behavior is inconsistent with various autistic people. CWC-related forums (and other forums, for that matter) have seen numerous testimonials about people who are undeniably autistic but nowhere near as fucked up as Chris has turned out to be, and in general these forums do not consider Chris to be an example of what all autistic people are like. Quite often, autistics are indeed able to learn social skills to some small degree in the context of intellectual learning. Some can even come off as being completely neurotypical because they have come to realize that, while they believe "normal" behavior has a tenuous definition, they must adapt to others' expectations of what's acceptable if they wish to succeed in life. Chris, however, demonstrates a willful ignorance of normalcy, with a sense of entitlement coupled with an expectation that others should not only understand his ridiculous idiosyncrasies in the first place, but also accept them or even force [[Dating education|them]] upon others.

A layperson may come to the conclusion that Chris is not autistic, and he's just a regular, albeit quite idiotic guy with a few "eccentricities" and personality flaws, or jump to the other extreme and conclude that Chris has full-blown mental retardation or schizophrenia. However, Chris's characteristics are most likely a combination of [[Barbara Chandler|bad parenting]] and genuine autism. The following are aspects of Chris's character that clearly match autistic tendencies:

[[Image:0695-AnnaBD9.JPG|thumb|right|Awkward body language, as Chris displays here, is a common trait of autism.]]
[[Image:0430-ChristianWTallStack2.jpg|thumb|Stacking objects is a common symptom of autism, and is often one of its first signs in a young child.]]
[[Image:0043-YoungChristopher2.jpg|thumb|As a child, Chris had a wide upper face, wide-set [[Creepy stare|eyes]], and a narrow lower face. This is a sign of autism (see below).]]

*Chris displays virtually no coherent, working theory of mind. This is the essence of autism: autistics have difficulty gauging others' internal, subjective thoughts, feelings, ideas, intents and so on; understanding that these might be different than their own; and predicting their behavior based on these differences. Indeed, the prefix "aut-" is a form of "auto-", meaning "self," as in "automobile," meaning "self-moving". In [[Clyde and Tito PS3 E-mails|an email between Clyde Cash and him]], he sent Clyde a link to [[The MovingFoward videos|a video he made of himself destroying his PS3]]. He destroyed his PS3 under the egregiously mistaken impression that he'd be given $9,001 for it, which is in itself an indicator of his fundamental inability to gauge others' actual intents and future behavior. He filmed himself doing it specifically to prove to Clyde, who wasn't present for the destruction, that it happened according to the video's objective portrayal. However, he added that if Clyde showed the video to anyone Chris didn't mean to see it without paying him the money, "it can be considered [Clyde's] Word Alone, possible Movie Editing and Actors, and NOT Fact" as though the video would have any less evidential weight on others if he denied to them what he rightfully claimed to Clyde that it showed with enough certitude that he would give him thousands of dollars because of its being shown.

*Chris places disproportional importance on literal statements, another trait of autism. This is related to the above. Chris acted as though he could convince others of a fact contrary to videographic evidence simply by stating it. Another example is virtually the entire [[Liquid Chris#Liquid Saga|Liquid Saga]], where Chris honestly, fervently, pathetically tried to demonstrate what was already blatantly obvious to everyone: that his name is not [[Ian Brandon Anderson]] and that Liquid was not him. He seemed to believe strongly enough [[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!|to become visibly frustrated]] that others might believe Liquid's statements in the face of the obvious that he had to continually counteract those statements with his own as though just the statements were the most important or most effective means of proving what everyone already knew.

*Chris is extremely gullible. While autistic people can have problems with social cues such as sarcasm, thus being gullible at times, Chris is much more gullible than other autistics, let alone ones that are high-functioning. This is more due to his [[Naïve|inexperience]]. One need only see his extensive [[List of Chris's sweethearts|list of sweethearts]] to see just how easily fooled he is. In addition, not only has he been fooled by trolls (of both sexes) pretending to be female sweethearts, he has fallen for trolls pretending to be [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] and approached him about making a ''Sonichu'' game. A telling statement comes from the aforementioned email to Clyde: "even if you upload the video yourself, it '''can be''' considered YOUR Word Alone[.]" (''emphasis added'') Chris might operate on the assumption that if a thing ''can be'' true, it's always reasonable to behave as though it ''is'' true no matter how slight the chance and no matter how much more likely it is to be false.

*Chris lacks a conversational filter. He calls this [[Honest Content|honesty]]; normal people call it social retardation. Without provocation he will tell you about his [[heterochromia|pinkeye]] and [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS]], and how he is a [[virgin with rage]]. Only when his [[Barbara|mother]] told him to knock it off did he actually give up telling everyone he was a virgin.<ref>[[Chris-Chan (CWCipedia)#Chris in Person (From THEIR Point of View)]]</ref>

*Chris can't show emotions well with facial expressions and body language. See [[CWC only accepts IN-PERSON FEMALE Encounters|his statement to the women of the world]] if you enjoy Chris appearing in your dreams. His inability to display emotions on his face has been called a "[[The Creepy Stare|dead fish expression]]" (though [[Barb]] displays a similar stare). When he does attempt to have an expression, it looks very cartoonish, possibly because he copied it from [[My Little Pony|actual cartoons]]. Also notice his inconsistent eye contact in his [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes]] news interview. He typically speaks in a monotone, and his attempts to sound expressive (see [[CWC's Message for Ivy]]) come off as creepy and unnatural. His incompetency with emotional display extends to his [[art]] and comics as well. He has a hard time displaying emotion on his characters' faces, and has even added emoticons :) to the speech bubbles to make up for his lack of ability to communicate through his art and writing alone.

*Chris has very poor facial and vocal recognition skills. [[Julie]] was a 13-year old boy using an obvious falsetto and Chris fell for it. In [[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3|one chat]], the boy made no attempt to disguise his voice and Chris was none the wiser, disclosing personal sexual details. Two images of different people were used to represent [[Blanca Weiss]], and Chris didn't notice. In an [[Vanessa AIM Chat 9|AIM Chat]] with [[Vanessa Hudgens]], she sent him a link to pictures of Megan Fox, and Chris complimented her on them, even though the two don't even have the same skin colour. He didn't realize that [[Emily]] and [[Kim]] were the same person, even though their voices and laughs were obviously identical. Chris is inconsistent with his self-portraits and drawings of other people, relying more on color schemes and cosmetics (hair, clothing choices, etc.) than on facial features to distinguish people.

*[[White knight#Chris lacks empathy himself|Chris lacks empathy]] and concern for others. In his [[Chris's Plea to Clyde Cash|plea]] to Clyde, his advice after the suicide of Clyde's brother [[Ryan Cash]] was "find yourself a girlfriend." He asks for ED to [[Captain's Log, Stardate November 7th, 2007|please understand]] him, because he is an "innocent victim of misunderstanding"—he wants empathy from others, but he can't return the favor. Chris primarily sees other people in terms of what they can provide for him; when accused of overstepping his bounds or other wrongdoing, he has no concept of [[Chris and remorse|remorse or apology]] except as something he must do to continue receiving favors. When forced to apologize, he makes insincere apologies followed immediately by further demands.

*Chris has trouble developing platonic relationships. Many non-autistic people have the same problem, but Chris is particularly inept at socializing. He has no filter on what he says and cannot empathize with others, key prerequisites for successfully interacting with people. He is also uninterested in talking about subjects besides himself.

*Chris thinks in absolutes and in terms of clearly defined steps in order to do something. He thinks there must be sex on or by the [[third date]]. He describes his sadness in terms of his [[heart level]] and briefly mentioned a [[Scale of Respect]]. He feels that if he just knows the correct steps to getting a [[sweetheart]], he will be able to find one easily. His [[dating education|crash-course in dating]] and [[Dating|suggestions to Blanca]] assume that a relationship should follow a rigidly predetermined progression instead of a natural flow. In an [[Jackie E-mails 23|exchange of e-mails with Jackie,]] Chris responded to her frank descriptions of his habits and lifestyle by saying she had exceeded the "Hurtful Truth Level"; while he knows he should be appreciative of hearing the truth about himself, this was the only way he could wrap his brain around the abstract idea enough to be able to tell her he thought she'd gone too far.

*Chris tends to use solipsistic neologisms; that is, he creates new words that only he himself understands and expects other people to comprehend them. Many articles on this very wiki have been written to explain the resulting [[CWC-isms]].

*Chris exhibits compulsive and repetitive behavior. He wears the same [[shirt]] for days at a time, and uses the same terms and [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend-Factor|exact]] [[boyfriend-free girl|phrases]] [[sweetheart from the ground-up|frequently]]. He feels the need to refer to people by their full names, plainly visible when he talks about himself, [[Clyde Cash]], or [[Adam Stackhouse]]. Other compulsive and repetitive behavior common with autism is strict following of rules, and the organization of elements bordering OCD. Chris however, lives in a [[14 Branchland Court|filthy, unorganized house,]] makes comics with dialog bubbles in inappropriate places; and a very inconsistent plot, and disobeys the [[Chris and the Law|law]] when it inconveniences him.

*Chris has an extremely narrow range of interests. He seems to only give a damn about video games, prowling for his next [[sweetheart]], his initials, and [[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]], so much to the point where he practically places [[Sonichu (character)|him]] somewhere in everything he creates. He often wishes to [[dating|combine]] two [[LittleBigPlanet#First Date Level|interests]].

*Although he does not demonstrate any [[Honor roll|competency]] with them, Chris has a fixation on numbers and statistics that would generally be irrelevant to others. He describes measures in concrete terms (e.g. "5 mies[sic] from the city"<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_0/Page_2</ref> instead of "outside the city"), and has a particular obsession with times and dates, timestamping nearly every scene in the comic and giving his characters birthdays and middle names that have no relevance to the plot (unless it becomes convenient to "[[pedofork|age up]]" the characters). Needless to say, Chris's tendency to blurt out exact dates and times (assuming he's not talking out of his ass) has made the job of [[CWChronology|CWCki chronologists]] much easier. On the other hand, his haphazard treatment of dates and times in the comic has led to countless [[Continuity in the Sonichu comics#Chronology|continuity errors]].

*Chris exhibits symptoms of [[Wikipedia:Sensory defensiveness|sensory defensiveness]]; this is a common characteristic of autistic people. Chris often wears his accessories and medallions over top his clothing to avoid skin contact with metals and plastics. This is evident in the way in which Chris wears his watch over the cuff of his sleeve and wraps his medallion through the collar of his shirt.<ref>[[:File:0793-CWCIs24-2.jpg]]</ref> Most obvious however is his [[Fashion#Wrist_warmer|wrist warmer]] which he places on the chain of his medallion. Chris has stated that "[...] it is a part of my necklace; it's a "Wilson" wrist-warmer I use to cover the discomfort of the number of Links back there."<ref>Email from Chris posted in old PVCC thread 162</ref> Loud sounds also bother Chris. He was prohibited from attending pep rallies in high school,<ref>[[August 2013 Facebook Posts#Actual friendships]]</ref> and has expressed hesitation about visiting bars because of the noise.

*Chris lacks social awareness. One notable instance, as revealed in the [[autism papers]], was when two [[Niggos|African American]] ladies were speaking to Chris about his love quest, when Chris politely told them that they could not be his girlfriend because they were not white. Based on the report of the examiner, Chris believed he was merely informing the ladies as to his prerequisites for a potential sweetheart while oblivious to the fact he was being racially insensitive.<ref>[[Autism_papers#IDENTIFYING_STATEMENT:]]</ref>

*Unnatural relationships with inanimate objects are also a sign of autism; Chris has evident obsessions with his [[medallion]], his [[PlayStation 3]], and any number of other items that clutter up his [[Chris's room|room]]. Since autistic people have difficulty maintaining relationships with people they often end up becoming emotionally dependent on objects, though this symptom is seen much more in children with autism.

*Chris also appears to have echolalia, a common symptom of autism. This means that he constantly repeats phrases from his favorite television shows, movies and video games, regardless of whether they fit the current situation. In some instances, he calls this [[Random-access humor|"humor"]].

*Chris has signs of ''amusia'', better known as being "tone deaf." This is a condition where people can't distinguish between [[music]]al pitches as easily as the average person does, and it is common among autistic people. Ironically, perfect pitch is also more common among those with autism, which goes to show that the condition is truly a vast spectrum.

*One of the biggest symptoms of autism Chris displays is his fear and resistance to change, well beyond the point that it could be even related to his autism. Chris is reluctant to get or even look for a job as he has only worked [[Chris's resume|four months in his entire life,]] has never come close to moving out, has a very hard time selling or giving up his toys or shirts, wouldn't stick to a diet and exercise program, [[Attraction Sign|doesn't try new ways to attract women,]] and has a very hard time coping with his banishment from [[the GAMe PLACe]]—where he would usually spend his Fridays. This might be resistance to change of his old life style of just going to school and coming home and playing video games; his proven tendencies to avoid responsibilities and self improvement show that he is trying to remain a child or simply fears failure of all types.

*An overlooked but crucial characteristic affecting all of Chris's physical activity is his display of [[Wikipedia:Hypotonia|hypotonia]], which refers to a distinct lack of muscle tone — in biological terms referring to tension rather than the colloquial use to describe muscle strength (although raw physical strength is also affected by it) — which affects motor skills as well as stamina. Chris is not only very clumsy, he shows abnormally low muscle strength and gets tired quickly even by [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|simply shuffling around for a couple of minutes]] — which cannot be entirely explained by his lack of physical exercise. Whenever Chris is shown sitting, [[Charlottesville Fashion Square#Chris captured on video|he is spread around like a rag doll]], [[:File:0782-CWCSpread.JPG|hanging limply]]—as his muscles cannot support his entire body properly. This condition is also linked to [[speech impediment]].

*Many autistic people experience [[Tomgirl|gender identity issues]]; according to psychologist Ken Zucker, trans people are ten times more likely to be autistic than the general population. The link is caused by, among other traits, autistics' tendency to fixate on issues (in this case, gender). Many autistic males (including Chris) also have qualities that can be considered "girly", such as passiveness. Since they have less social awareness, they may behave in ways that can be considered atypical for either sex, and display less regard for gender roles. Chris and other autistic people perceive their quirks as being "female in a male body" or vice versa, and assume that they will fit in better as their desired sex.

*Studies on autistic children have shown they have a distinctive facial structure. This can include a wide upper face (including a wide forehead and wide-set eyes), a slimmer lower face, and a slim nose.<ref>https://www.cbsnews.com/news/children-with-autism-have-distinct-facial-features-study/</ref> Chris's childhood photos show the same features. To this day, Chris possesses a unique and unusual face, with sunken-in temples creating the appearance of the number "8".

==Chris's misconceptions about autism==
It's not clear that Chris has any understanding of what, precisely, autism is, except that a) he has it, b) it's a bad thing, and c) [[Chris and his Ego|he's a brave little boy for living with it]]. His song [[A-U-T-I-S-M]] sums up his attitudes about the disorder:

{{quote|A-U-T-I-S-M: what does it mean? Silence and friends unseen! A few brains as well: that is autism! And that makes us seem special to you!|Chris, attempting to spell out autism in more ways than one}}

To Chris, that's all it is — a condition that makes you a bit smarter than normal human beings and mysteriously makes people not want to be your friend.
[[File:Mii.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's personification of autism for beating up in Super Smash Bros.]]
Chris also seems to only be aware of the symptoms of autism that fit in with his odd, pseudo-Bohemian lifestyle. Asexuality is very common in autistic people; this is because any form of romance or sex may be too intimate for an autistic mind to cope with. This completely contradicts Chris's "[[Love Quest]]" and suggests that he is actually trying to compensate for his inability to feel true sexual attraction, even if that means becoming a genuinely disturbing pervert.

Chris [[Aspergers (CWCipedia article)|considers himself to have "Helped cultivate the First Generation of Autistic People",]] suggesting that he believes [[Chris and his Ego|he is a prevalent figure in the autistic community.]].

In a [[May 2010]] [[Some Favored Comedians|video]], he stated that our society is spending so much time on the Internet that ''everyone'' is becoming autistic.<ref>[[Toucher and Rich Segment#Chris's Response|Chris responds to Toucher and Rich, May 2009]]</ref><ref>[[Some Favored Comedians]]</ref> This further proves that people with little to no social contact shouldn't attempt social commentary.
That, and Chris has no fucking clue what his own disorder is actually ''like''. In [[November 2010]], he tried to use this excuse to guilt trip [[Jackie]] into being sorry for yelling at him, which worked as well as you'd expect.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 23]]</ref>

Chris's failure to understand the symptoms of autism may well explain some of his odd behaviors. Due to lack of social activity and poor theory of mind, Chris doesn't seem to realize that his behaviors are what they are, as best demonstrated by his belief that [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|it is normal for an adult to shit themselves.]] Chris does not recognize the differences between himself and others, and this applies to the differences between himself and neurotypicals - and, seeing no differences, he believes his autism to have been thoroughly conquered, even while embodying every single trait of it.

===Chris on the causes of autism===
There's a broad scientific consensus that autism largely arises from genetic factors. Chris's own case is consistent with the theory that children born to older parents are at greater risk of developing autism.<ref>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_autism#Genetics</ref> Bob and Barb were 54 and 40, respectively, when Chris was conceived.

Chris's own expressed views on the root causes of autism are all over the map. He's espoused a few different theories at different times and in different situations. His oldest theory, dating back to the [[Song of Christian]] in the late 1990s, is that the [[abusive babysitter]] was responsible for his condition. In [[Mumble 3|his arguments with]] [[Clyde Cash]] in early 2009, he said that "scientifically speaking, [autism] has possibly come from a drug, or otherwise it may possibly be genetic", and that the babysitter incident merely "brought out the, uh, curse that was buried within me."

When explaining his condition to [[Father Call|Matt Devoria]] late in the fall of 2009, Chris insisted that autism has no genetic factors. In that instance, however he had an obvious agenda. He hoped to convince Matt that any children he fathered with Matt's daughter [[Kacey]] wouldn't wind up inheriting his condition; because of this, it's difficult to say exactly how sincere he happened to be at that moment.

To muddle the issue even ''further'', in [[Mailbag 12]], Chris blamed the cause of autism on a shot "the doctor's [sic] optionally give to the child after birth", apparently in reference to the highly disputed [[wikipedia:MMR vaccine controversy|urban myth]] alleging that childhood vaccinations lead to autism. It's not likely that Chris even has that much of an awareness of the facts and assertions of said myth, and was probably looking for a throwaway excuse to deny any hereditary factors.

In a [[Some Favored Comedians|video]] in 2010 Chris said the Internet made people autistic, likely confusing the hyperbolic claim often made jokingly to that effect with fact. Ironically Chris's excessive use of the Internet in place of human interaction have probably done more to exacerbate his symptoms than almost anything else.

In his [[Autism Tutorial Part 1|Autism Tutorial]] from early 2011, Chris slewed back toward a more mainstream view, discussing the genetic factors behind autism and complaining about how his parents conceived him late in life. He also, however, warned viewers that smoking, drinking, or exposure to car exhaust could cause dangerous genetic damage that might result in autistic children.

===Chris versus Asperger syndrome===
{{see also|Asperger syndrome}}

Chris is easily outraged by any attempt to associate or confuse autism, high-functioning or otherwise, with Asperger syndrome, a similar condition now considered by many experts to overlap with HFA on the autistic spectrum. (In fact, it has been proposed that Asperger syndrome be placed on the autism spectrum in the new DSM-V, making both the condition and "high-functioning autism" one and the same.<ref>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-V#Asperger_syndrome</ref>) At times, Chris has stated that he dislikes Asperger syndrome because sufferers of the disorder supposedly steal sympathy away from autism awareness. He has also claimed that the name is too close to "ass burger" or "ass booger" for his taste. In the early days of the CWCipedia Mailbag, asking Chris about Asperger syndrome was the most effective way to troll him; this culminated in the creation of [[Asperchu]].

In the present, Chris simply hates Asperger syndrome because it reminds him of how angry he got the last time someone brought it up — in other words, a completely unjustifiable opinion. Chris has declared himself "close-minded" on the subject, dismissing all scientific opinion contrary to his own, and angrily refuses to be convinced that he does not occupy a more favorable (exactly what that means depends on whether Chris is looking for pity or adulation at the time) tier of the spectrum.

==Chris on autism education==
Chris is a firm believer in mainstream education for children with autism, a trait he doubtlessly picked up from his parents, who went to [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School|incredible lengths]] to keep him in mainstream classrooms throughout his school years. Aside from speech therapy lessons intended to help him recover from his period of muteness as a child, as far as the available records indicate, Chris has never received any sort of special education geared towards dealing with his autism or related issues.

[[Mailbag 12|When asked for his advice on how to raise an autistic child]], Chris replied "...Most Importantly, MAINSTREAM; let your child be free to communicate and associate with the Normal Society. Special Education is okay, but that will not do in the longest run." Later, [[Mailbag 15|for advice on how "to succeed despite being afflicted with Asperger's"]], Chris's only response was, "My advice is to Mainstream the child."

During a [[04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless|video from April 2010]], Chris read off a lengthy printout of autism-related information. After quoting a passage about how the education of autistic children should be undertaken by trained professionals in specialized settings, Chris offered his own opinion.

{{quote|As for me though, I highly recommend mainstreaming, lettin' 'em go though normal life. I mean yeah, give 'em the special treatment while they're young... but when you get 'em in elementary or middle school... or high school, mainstream is the way to go.|Chris, [[04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless|Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless]]}}

In short, Chris believes that the approach that produced the man as we know him today (i.e. ignoring the problem and doing nothing to help it) is the best possible way to raise and educate children with autism.

==Autism cured?==

[[Image:454-CWCsPossibleFuture.JPG|thumb|Autism appears to be in Chris's future...]]

Chris's greatest dream is that his autism might one day be cured (although in 2006 he would have unhesitatingly sacrificed such a cure in order to obtain a [[PlayStation 3]]). There are instances of children inexplicably recovering from the symptoms, but there is no known cure for autism that can simply be applied to everyone like Chris's "homo vaccine." Imagine the surprise of the mental health community, then, when Chris revealed in [[March 2009]] that he had overcome his autism once and for all:<ref>[[Sarah Reveals Herself]]</ref>

:'''Christopher C.W.C.:''' I'm not going to blame it on my autism; I have realized that I am over that now.
:'''Sarah May:''' Over what?
:'''Sarah May:''' Over your autism?
:'''Christopher C.W.C.:''' yes
:'''Sarah May:''' . . .
:'''Christopher C.W.C.:''' anyway, what is it that you want to do?
:'''Sarah May:''' Christian
:'''Sarah May:''' Are you serious?
:'''Sarah May:''' Autism is not influenza
:'''Sarah May:''' You don't 'get over it'
:'''Christopher C.W.C.:''' I've broken out of my autistic shell, and I am better able to socialize in public, with the past practices online.

Chris claimed during the same chat that he may not be making sense due to a virus, easily allowing for him to retract this. Fortunately, Chris has discovered that [[stress]] is a more socially popular scapegoat for his personal shortcomings. Of course, people learn to manage stress, but what do you expect?

As of [[May 2009]], Chris seemed to have regained his autism and was back to [[Wikipedia|blaming it]] for all his problems, seemingly believing that autism is as easy to shake/regain as the common flu. However, [[November 2009]] saw Chris again claiming to have been miraculously cured, as stated at the end of part 2 of his [[Sonichu Powerpoint]] presentations, where he described himself as a "high-functioning autistic ''recovered''". A [[December 2009|month later]], Chris again backpedaled; in response to ED's claim he was "suffering" from autism, he [[Chris chan (CWCipedia)|agreed]] that "''I still am for real.''"

Chris's flip-flopping self-diagnosis simply illustrates his misunderstanding of his problems. Since autism is his scapegoat for when he fucks up, to him that's really all it is — a disease that makes people fuck up all the time. Therefore, when he fails, he has a bad case of autism, and when everything is going well (such as when he believes he has a girlfriend), he thinks the autism has gone away. What Chris really wants, then, is not a cure for autism but a life in which nothing happens that he would need to blame on his autism; that is, a life in which he has a girlfriend and nobody criticizes him.

In June of 2016, he [[Announcement_06292016#Video_2|claimed to have cured his autism]] using [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]]. He stated that the track made him think clearer and [[Chris and socialization|interact better with others]]. However, he has shown no improvement in the quality of his recent videos.

==Things Chris has not blamed on his autism==
[[Image:Tumbleweed.gif|What did you expect?]]

==Chris and other autistics==

Listening to Chris go on about "us TRUE and HONEST autistics," you might think he has some kind of misplaced sense of autistic solidarity. But this would merely be dumb, and Chris-chan always shoots for both dumb and repugnant, so the reality is that he doesn't give a shit about anyone's autism but his own. He calls lower-functioning autistics "windows into hell"<ref>[[IRC (17 December 2008)]]</ref> and regards them with [[Chris and hypocrisy|exactly the same kind of fear and mistrust he bitches about people treating him with]] when in reality many much lower functioning autistics lead far more independent and fulfilling lives than he does. He has also expressed a disdain for others with high-functioning autism, with HFA being one of the characteristics excluding a woman from being a [[attraction sign|potential sweetheart]]. Meanwhile, he looks at people with [[Asperger Syndrome]], who are on roughly the same part of the spectrum as him, as dirty whores trying to somehow steal the limelight from "real" autistics (ironically, many feel this way about Chris).

Chris has only once included another autistic person in his comics. In emails with [[Sarah Jackson]], she told Chris that her sister was also a high-functioning autistic. When Sarah was included in [[Sonichu 9#Episode 19: Date Ed (Even Though the Idea Sounds Dated)|Episode 19]], so was her sister, [[Rita]]. When Rita was given dialogue after Sarah's [[death]], what she said made so little sense grammatically (even by [[Chris and writing|Chris's standards]]) that it is hard to see it as unintentional. It can therefore be speculated that Chris, thinking his own autism so much better than anyone else's, was attempting to make Rita seem as unintelligent as he assumes other autistics and people with mental disorders are.

For their part, people with autism universally facepalm when they look at Chris, with some even going as far as [[A-Logging|wishing he'd fuck off and die]] and stop giving them a bad name. The deleted article about Chris on TV Tropes said it best: they wish he'd Stop Being Stereotypical and embodying the worst perceptions of their condition. The article also noted that to people with autism or Asperger's, Chris was "Paranoia Fuel;" that is to say, it scares them to think they're like him. [[Chris and hypocrisy|For the actual high-functioning autistics out there, Chris himself is the "window into hell"]].

The Aspies for Freedom website has had a couple of run-ins with Chris that nicely demonstrate how other autistics regard him:

* [http://web.archive.org/web/20110915021308/http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthread.php?tid=14371 Aspies For Freedom thread] where Chris or someone impersonating Chris asks for help against [[ED]]. The aspies offer the usual advice of ignoring the [[trolls]], which by the way is the best advice.

* [http://web.archive.org/web/20110915021331/http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthread.php?tid=15676 Aspies For Freedom thread] where someone asks about Chris, but everyone else just wants to avoid the drama. A few of them realize that what ED says is true even though it may be a "hate site". Apparently, previous drama involving Chris led them to disable registration.

The [http://autism.wikia.com/wiki/Christian_Chandler Autism Wiki] calls Chris an enemy of the Autism Community.

Tl;dr: Chris has no support in the online autistic community unless it's from someone who would rather he commit suicide.

== References ==
<references/>

==See also==
* [[Asperger syndrome]]
* [[Aspergers (CWCipedia article)]]
* [[A-U-T-I-S-M]]
* [[Autism Tutorial]]
* [[Chris and psychology]]
* [[Kick the Autistic]]
* [[Slow-in-the-minds]]
* [[Stress]]

==External links==
*[http://autism.wikia.com/wiki/Christian_Chandler Christian Chandler on the Autism Wiki]

{{CWC-isms}}
{{Love quest}}

[[Category:Autistic Spectrum Disorders]]
[[Category:Physical characteristics]]

Autism

2019-04-20T16:27:09Z

Thnxbb: By all accounts this seemed to simply be a fan video

:''For the song, see [[A-U-T-I-S-M]].''

{{Articleofthenow}}
{{DeadLinks}}

[[File:Auti.PNG|center]]

{{quote|'''I am Sometimes Retarded'''.|[[Chris]], on himself.<ref>6th paragraph down: http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Homosexuality</ref>}}
{{quote|I'm POSSIBLY [[slow-in-the-minds|retarded]]...|Chris on his autism, [[Mumble 9.5]]}}
{{quote|I'M RETARDED.|Chris, [[exposing Jeff]].}}

[[Image:086-BionicFlag.jpg|thumb|200px|[[Bionic the Hedgehog]] "conquering" autism (and "ATScI3") by confusing windmills with watermills.]]
[[Image:461-AutismFight.jpg|thumb|200px|Chris at war with autism (or "ATSIMU") in [[China]]. Too bad you can't fight cannons with [[fangs]].]]
[[Image:Autismcard.jpg|thumb|200px|He plays this card a lot.]]

'''Autism''' is a spectrum of neurological disorders involving the impairment of social interaction and communication, repetitive behavior, and restricted interests. The cause of autism is unknown, but it has been shown to have multiple genetic factors. The symptoms usually manifest before the age of 3 and are generally irreversible; there is no known cure, although the condition can be treated. Autistic individuals are generally not retarded — they mostly have average intelligence, and some are even above average — although obviously severe social impairment can coincide with stunted or delayed learning and development. [[Asperger syndrome]] is generally considered part of the autistic spectrum; individuals with Asperger syndrome generally have above-average intelligence, although they still suffer from the social and communicative impairments. Prognosis depends on the severity of the autism and the effectiveness of its treatment; autistic people may learn to live relatively normal, productive lives or they may have become so unable to function in society that they must be institutionalized.

Christian Weston Chandler has built much of his identity around being autistic. His terror of being associated with severely autistic/retarded people causes him to be overly eager to prove his basic competence and cite his success in primary and secondary education. At the same time, his pride from accomplishing these things in spite of his disability has conditioned him to demand outrageous praise for his slightest efforts and infinite patience for his gravest errors. Moreover, Chris's belief that the entire Greene County Board of Education continues to irrationally persecute him for his autism has left him suspicious of opposing points of view and resolute that anti-autistic prejudice is the reason for any of his setbacks.<ref>[[Greene_County_Conspiracy]]</ref> In short, it is impossible to understand Chris's [[Chris and anger|defensiveness]], [[stress|hypersensitivity]], [[Chris and his Ego|narcissism]], [[Chris and remorse|irresponsibility]], [[Man in the Pickle Suit|paranoia]], [[Greene County Conspiracy|victimhood]], and [[Story of My Current Days|self-pity]] without understanding his relationship with autism.

Chris not only seems to think that having autism imbues him with a [[Chris and his Ego|special significance]], but also feels that his autism is different from that of literally every other person in the world who has autism.<ref>[[Asperger_Syndrome]]</ref> Chris feels he is naturally better than everyone else and often talks down to people who display knowledge or experience of subjects he is unfamiliar with. During his conversation with [[Father_Call|Kacey's father]], Chris downplayed Kacey's knowledge of biology and healthcare despite being proven wrong mere minutes before in a debate over the genetics of autism.<ref>[[Father_call#Kacey's_boobs_and_Internet_fame]]</ref> At the same time, Chris believes he is not responsible for the majority of his mistakes. By being autistic, Chris rationalizes that it is wholly the fault of autism if he [[Twin Falling Towers|makes]] [[SheCameForCWC.jpg|poor]] [[Piedmont Virginia Community College#Kicked_out_of_college|decisions]].<ref>[[Jackie_E-mails_20]]</ref>

==High-functioning vs. low-functioning==

{{quote|He may be high functioning (which I actually doubt -- who would want to admit to thousands of strangers that they are actually severely challenged??), but that does not mean he can function like a non-mentally challenged person.|rae12, Cracked.com<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20150503081114/http://www.cracked.com/funny-3956-chris-chan/</ref>}}

Informally, autism may be subdivided into separate classifications based on the intelligence and degree of function the autistic individual possesses; for a general idea, this crude scale could have levels of high-functioning, medium-functioning, and low-functioning. Chris has latched onto this concept and will frequently qualify his condition, saying he has '''high-functioning autism''', or '''HFA'''. Generally, HFA is loosely defined as; the ability to live in the mainstream world as opposed to being institutionalized, having near-normal comprehension, demonstrating fluent speech, and possessing average or above average intellect. This presents Christian with an easy scapegoat and alibi: he cannot be blamed for his own failures because he has autism, but he does not accept treatment or advice for his "medium" or "low" level autistic traits because he's ''high-functioning'' and therefore, nearly normal.

[[Trolls]] have often noted that the "high-functioning" qualifier is '''not''' a clinical diagnosis and is '''not''' recognized by the [[Wikipedia:DSM-IV|DSM-IV-TR]] or the [[Wikipedia:ICD-10|ICD-10]]. This usually goes hand-in-hand with questioning the severity and/or diagnosis of Chris's impairment, if not outright calling him a [[List of Chris's lies|liar]]. However, the Chandlers didn't make the "HFA" label up, and compared to kids who can barely speak and just walk in circles all day, Chris is relatively close to neurotypical. Semantics aside, though, it's clear that Chris is far from normally-functioning. Only an [[Autism papers|updated]] [[28 October 2011#Arraignment, plea bargain, and sentencing|psychological profile]] would really provide insight into the complex and controversial mixture of autism and mental illness that is present within Christian.

The newer [[Wikipedia:DSM-5|DSM-5]] ''does'' distinguish different levels of severity based on the amount of support needed, but the new term is "Autism Spectrum Disorder [[Vidya|Level 1]]," not "High-Functioning Autism."

Disgustingly, but perhaps not surprisingly, Chris detests [[Slow-in-the-minds|low-functioning autistics]] in the [[Chris and hypocrisy|exact manner]] that he fears normal people will detest him. In [[Mailbag 25#High functioning babble|Mailbag 25]], he compares those with low-functioning autism with those who suffer from severe retardation or severe brain damage, thinking that they would have their arms linked together, have deformations, be confined to wheelchairs or crutches and drool and grunt and growl. He has also described them with extremely cruel and derisive terms, calling them "WINDOWS TO HELL" and compared them to "zombies".<ref>[[Mailbag_5#In which Chris speaks ill of the handicapped|Mailbag 5]]</ref><ref>[[Mailbag_11#Elevators are important for the handicapped, so they don't want any phobias|Mailbag 11]]</ref><ref>[[Mailbag_25#High functioning babble|Mailbag 25]]</ref> The irony of his resentment toward "low-functioning" autistic people is that he has a severely autistic cousin, as revealed in the [[autism papers]]; this probably means that either Chris is not aware of his own relatives (very probable), or he has disowned members of his own family on the basis of them having the same medical condition that he has (albeit more severely affected by it), being the autism-Nazi he is.<ref>[[Asperger syndrome]]</ref>

He explains that he refuses to date a girl with any form of autism because he fears that seeing them will make him think about what he might be like if he had anything other than high-functioning autism.<ref>[[Chris_chan_(CWCipedia)#Chris_Chan_on_sticking_things_up_b.2A.2A.2Ahole.|Chris chan (CWCipedia)]]</ref> Chris believes he can do much more than any low-functioning autistic could, even as he's living with [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] well into his thirties, has never had a real girlfriend or held a steady job, and [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|soils his pants]] on a semi-regular basis.<ref>[[Mumble 3]]</ref>

Still, presuming Chris is autistic, he is high-functioning since he can talk, drive, write, and draw, [[Speech impediment|even if]] [[Chris and art|he's not]] [[Son-Chu#Car trouble|the best]] [[Writing|at these things]]. However, this also means that he has the same medical condition as Temple Grandin and [[Pokémon|Satoshi Tajiri]] amongst many others, yet he has failed to do anything significant with his adult life – hence proving that his vulgarity and failure are, for the most part (this is further elaborated on below), his own fault.

{{clear}}

==Onset and diagnosis of Chris's autism==

{{quote|No one GIVES A SHIT that you are autistic, they NEVER DID.|[[Jackie E-mails 23|Jackie]], telling Chris something he'll flat out ignore.}}
[[Image:SchuComic10P09.jpg|thumb|Now GodBearJesus can't get him to shut up.]]

Chris's version of how he developed autism is best explained in the [[Song of Christian]] video. There he explains how a [[Abusive babysitter|babysitter]] locked him in a room filled with toys at around age 1 1/2. After crying for hours, he emerged from the room unable to talk; as Chris himself puts it, "[[Chris and religion|God]] put the mute button on me".<ref>[[Song of Christian#The actual poem]]</ref> (This implies that Chris could talk before this incident, which directly contradicts Chris's own parents stating that he never spoke until around the age of seven.) Most specialists claim that these symptoms of autism begin to show around that age anyway,<ref>[[wikipedia:Autism#Characteristics|Wikipedia: Characteristics of autism]]</ref> so even if the events of the story happened, the babysitter didn't cause the autism. It is far more likely that Chris's parents simply looked for anyone to blame for Chris's sudden loss of language development, even a random babysitter. Notably, Chris has diverged from this story before, having claimed at least once that he was intentionally "injected" with autism by doctors when he was a child, as if that were even possible. Nevertheless, it speaks volumes on the [[List of Chris's lies|veracity]] of the former account if he can't even keep his story straight, not to mention that Chris probably [[Naïve|has little idea on the causes of autism]] anyway.

As for how Chris ''actually'' became autistic, studies have shown that there is a [http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/news/20100208/autism-risk-rises-with-mothers-age positive correlation between the age of the mother and the risk of autism]. Given that [[Barbara Chandler|Barb]] was 40 years old when she gave birth to Chris, this is a likely explanation.

It is currently unclear how Chris came to be considered as "autistic", although Chris has claimed that his parents possess official documentation about this in a safe. When pressed to release this information, he provided a [[autism papers|2004 psychiatric evaluation]] that states Chris was diagnosed with autism when he was "around age five or six". However, there's no way to be sure if the evaluator simply wrote down Chris's responses to his questions or independently verified them. (For example, Chris might not remember his exact age when he was diagnosed, but you'd think his medical records could be more precise than "five or six".) By the time of the Chandlers' legal battle with Greene County, Chris's autism seemed to have become a universally accepted fact, but the details of how, when, and where Chris was diagnosed remain a mystery.

When recounting his childhood, Chris usually skips straight from the "evil babysitter" incident to age seven, so we know very little about what (if any) treatment he received during this crucial period of development. In a [[CWCipedia]] [[mailbag]], Chris claims that when he was young, his parents were told he would never be able to read, write or function on a normal level. He and his doctors have now upgraded his condition to "high-functioning", but apparently his incredibly abysmal upbringing has actually allowed it to progress to mid-functioning at best.

In his "Song of Christian" video, he explains that his mother took him to the toy department and coaxed him to read aloud the names of Go-Bots, and later [[Transformers]]. Chris says he began speaking again when he was seven – that is, in [[1989]], when the Transformers line was on its last legs and the Go-Bots line had long since vanished. This would seem to indicate that this form of "therapy" had to have gone on for several years before producing any results.

{{clear}}

==Persecution==
Chris attended [[Greene County Primary School]], apparently without incident, from age 5 until age 9. Problems arose for him in the fourth grade at [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School]], where he alleges that the faculty wanted to remove him from mainstream classrooms and send him to what he calls an institution. He also claims that the teachers at the school held him down and recorded his screams. Chris frequently cites this as evidence that the school was senselessly cruel towards him, for no reason apparent to him except an innate fear and distrust of autistic people. More probable, given Chris's ongoing behavioral issues, is that he threw a temper tantrum so big it forced the faculty to physically restrain him, while refusing to restrain himself. There's no way to know if Greene Elementary treated Chris unfairly, but the incident does suspiciously resemble Chris's [[arrest]] in July 2005. The Chandlers sued to prevent the school board from removing Chris from mainstream education before ultimately relocating to Chesterfield County to continue Chris's mainstreaming there.

Chris frequently brings up that the reason people used to [[Kick the Autistic|be cruel to him]] in his childhood was because "they did not understand Autism". In the [[1980s]]. When autism had been known for around 40 years. When asked about why they did not understand, Chris delivers his canned response of "I do not know".

There's no way to know how much of Chris's attitude about the Greene County crisis is based on his personal recollections or what he was later told by his parents, who themselves seem unusually paranoid about the county's vendetta against their family. However, the result of the incident is clear: Chris emerged from adolescence firmly believing that many people not only misunderstand autistic people but hate and fear them. He seems to believe this prejudice is based not on a person's actions (e.g. throwing fits and irrationally screaming) but on a person's mere identification as autistic, regardless of function. Given Chris's fear of low-functioning autistics, he may in fact think this prejudice is [[Chris and hypocrisy|perfectly justified]], but wrongfully targeted at a high-functioning individual. Of course, in Chris's mind, he may as well be the only high-functioning autistic in the Universe, so he is the one and only innocent victim in "everyone's favorite game, [[Kick the Autistic]]".

Chris's tactful and sensitive comments on a news story about a woman with [[Asperger syndrome]] being raped revealed that he believes the media, like the rest of the world, has a bias against autism similar to "[[wikipedia:Missing white woman syndrome|Missing White Woman Syndrome]]", and that the story wouldn't have been reported if the victim was a woman with "proper" autism.

==Chris's symptoms==

Many [[trolls]] dispute the exact diagnosis of Chris's mental condition, on the basis that his observed behavior is inconsistent with various autistic people. CWC-related forums (and other forums, for that matter) have seen numerous testimonials about people who are undeniably autistic but nowhere near as fucked up as Chris has turned out to be, and in general these forums do not consider Chris to be an example of what all autistic people are like. Quite often, autistics are indeed able to learn social skills to some small degree in the context of intellectual learning. Some can even come off as being completely neurotypical because they have come to realize that, while they believe "normal" behavior has a tenuous definition, they must adapt to others' expectations of what's acceptable if they wish to succeed in life. Chris, however, demonstrates a willful ignorance of normalcy, with a sense of entitlement coupled with an expectation that others should not only understand his ridiculous idiosyncrasies in the first place, but also accept them or even force [[Dating education|them]] upon others.

A layperson may come to the conclusion that Chris is not autistic, and he's just a regular, albeit quite idiotic guy with a few "eccentricities" and personality flaws, or jump to the other extreme and conclude that Chris has full-blown mental retardation or schizophrenia. However, Chris's characteristics are most likely a combination of [[Barbara Chandler|bad parenting]] and genuine autism. The following are aspects of Chris's character that clearly match autistic tendencies:

[[Image:0695-AnnaBD9.JPG|thumb|right|Awkward body language, as Chris displays here, is a common trait of autism.]]
[[Image:0430-ChristianWTallStack2.jpg|thumb|Stacking objects is a common symptom of autism, and is often one of its first signs in a young child.]]
[[Image:0043-YoungChristopher2.jpg|thumb|As a child, Chris had a wide upper face, wide-set [[Creepy stare|eyes]], and a narrow lower face. This is a sign of autism (see below).]]

*Chris displays virtually no coherent, working theory of mind. This is the essence of autism: autistics have difficulty gauging others' internal, subjective thoughts, feelings, ideas, intents and so on; understanding that these might be different than their own; and predicting their behavior based on these differences. Indeed, the prefix "aut-" is a form of "auto-", meaning "self," as in "automobile," meaning "self-moving". In [[Clyde and Tito PS3 E-mails|an email between Clyde Cash and him]], he sent Clyde a link to [[The MovingFoward videos|a video he made of himself destroying his PS3]]. He destroyed his PS3 under the egregiously mistaken impression that he'd be given $9,001 for it, which is in itself an indicator of his fundamental inability to gauge others' actual intents and future behavior. He filmed himself doing it specifically to prove to Clyde, who wasn't present for the destruction, that it happened according to the video's objective portrayal. However, he added that if Clyde showed the video to anyone Chris didn't mean to see it without paying him the money, "it can be considered [Clyde's] Word Alone, possible Movie Editing and Actors, and NOT Fact" as though the video would have any less evidential weight on others if he denied to them what he rightfully claimed to Clyde that it showed with enough certitude that he would give him thousands of dollars because of its being shown.

*Chris places disproportional importance on literal statements, another trait of autism. This is related to the above. Chris acted as though he could convince others of a fact contrary to videographic evidence simply by stating it. Another example is virtually the entire [[Liquid Chris#Liquid Saga|Liquid Saga]], where Chris honestly, fervently, pathetically tried to demonstrate what was already blatantly obvious to everyone: that his name is not [[Ian Brandon Anderson]] and that Liquid was not him. He seemed to believe strongly enough [[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!|to become visibly frustrated]] that others might believe Liquid's statements in the face of the obvious that he had to continually counteract those statements with his own as though just the statements were the most important or most effective means of proving what everyone already knew.

*Chris is extremely gullible. While autistic people can have problems with social cues such as sarcasm, thus being gullible at times, Chris is much more gullible than other autistics, let alone ones that are high-functioning. This is more due to his [[Naïve|inexperience]]. One need only see his extensive [[List of Chris's sweethearts|list of sweethearts]] to see just how easily fooled he is. In addition, not only has he been fooled by trolls (of both sexes) pretending to be female sweethearts, he has fallen for trolls pretending to be [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] and approached him about making a ''Sonichu'' game. A telling statement comes from the aforementioned email to Clyde: "even if you upload the video yourself, it '''can be''' considered YOUR Word Alone[.]" (''emphasis added'') Chris might operate on the assumption that if a thing ''can be'' true, it's always reasonable to behave as though it ''is'' true no matter how slight the chance and no matter how much more likely it is to be false.

*Chris lacks a conversational filter. He calls this [[Honest Content|honesty]]; normal people call it social retardation. Without provocation he will tell you about his [[heterochromia|pinkeye]] and [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS]], and how he is a [[virgin with rage]]. Only when his [[Barbara|mother]] told him to knock it off did he actually give up telling everyone he was a virgin.<ref>[[Chris-Chan (CWCipedia)#Chris in Person (From THEIR Point of View)]]</ref>

*Chris can't show emotions well with facial expressions and body language. See [[CWC only accepts IN-PERSON FEMALE Encounters|his statement to the women of the world]] if you enjoy Chris appearing in your dreams. His inability to display emotions on his face has been called a "[[The Creepy Stare|dead fish expression]]" (though [[Barb]] displays a similar stare). When he does attempt to have an expression, it looks very cartoonish, possibly because he copied it from [[My Little Pony|actual cartoons]]. Also notice his inconsistent eye contact in his [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes]] news interview. He typically speaks in a monotone, and his attempts to sound expressive (see [[CWC's Message for Ivy]]) come off as creepy and unnatural. His incompetency with emotional display extends to his [[art]] and comics as well. He has a hard time displaying emotion on his characters' faces, and has even added emoticons :) to the speech bubbles to make up for his lack of ability to communicate through his art and writing alone.

*Chris has very poor facial and vocal recognition skills. [[Julie]] was a 13-year old boy using an obvious falsetto and Chris fell for it. In [[BlueSpike PSN Chat 3|one chat]], the boy made no attempt to disguise his voice and Chris was none the wiser, disclosing personal sexual details. Two images of different people were used to represent [[Blanca Weiss]], and Chris didn't notice. In an [[Vanessa AIM Chat 9|AIM Chat]] with [[Vanessa Hudgens]], she sent him a link to pictures of Megan Fox, and Chris complimented her on them, even though the two don't even have the same skin colour. He didn't realize that [[Emily]] and [[Kim]] were the same person, even though their voices and laughs were obviously identical. Chris is inconsistent with his self-portraits and drawings of other people, relying more on color schemes and cosmetics (hair, clothing choices, etc.) than on facial features to distinguish people.

*[[White knight#Chris lacks empathy himself|Chris lacks empathy]] and concern for others. In his [[Chris's Plea to Clyde Cash|plea]] to Clyde, his advice after the suicide of Clyde's brother [[Ryan Cash]] was "find yourself a girlfriend." He asks for ED to [[Captain's Log, Stardate November 7th, 2007|please understand]] him, because he is an "innocent victim of misunderstanding"—he wants empathy from others, but he can't return the favor. Chris primarily sees other people in terms of what they can provide for him; when accused of overstepping his bounds or other wrongdoing, he has no concept of [[Chris and remorse|remorse or apology]] except as something he must do to continue receiving favors. When forced to apologize, he makes insincere apologies followed immediately by further demands.

*Chris has trouble developing platonic relationships. Many non-autistic people have the same problem, but Chris is particularly inept at socializing. He has no filter on what he says and cannot empathize with others, key prerequisites for successfully interacting with people. He is also uninterested in talking about subjects besides himself.

*Chris thinks in absolutes and in terms of clearly defined steps in order to do something. He thinks there must be sex on or by the [[third date]]. He describes his sadness in terms of his [[heart level]] and briefly mentioned a [[Scale of Respect]]. He feels that if he just knows the correct steps to getting a [[sweetheart]], he will be able to find one easily. His [[dating education|crash-course in dating]] and [[Dating|suggestions to Blanca]] assume that a relationship should follow a rigidly predetermined progression instead of a natural flow. In an [[Jackie E-mails 23|exchange of e-mails with Jackie,]] Chris responded to her frank descriptions of his habits and lifestyle by saying she had exceeded the "Hurtful Truth Level"; while he knows he should be appreciative of hearing the truth about himself, this was the only way he could wrap his brain around the abstract idea enough to be able to tell her he thought she'd gone too far.

*Chris tends to use solipsistic neologisms; that is, he creates new words that only he himself understands and expects other people to comprehend them. Many articles on this very wiki have been written to explain the resulting [[CWC-isms]].

*Chris exhibits compulsive and repetitive behavior. He wears the same [[shirt]] for days at a time, and uses the same terms and [[Infinitely-High Boyfriend-Factor|exact]] [[boyfriend-free girl|phrases]] [[sweetheart from the ground-up|frequently]]. He feels the need to refer to people by their full names, plainly visible when he talks about himself, [[Clyde Cash]], or [[Adam Stackhouse]]. Other compulsive and repetitive behavior common with autism is strict following of rules, and the organization of elements bordering OCD. Chris however, lives in a [[14 Branchland Court|filthy, unorganized house,]] makes comics with dialog bubbles in inappropriate places; and a very inconsistent plot, and disobeys the [[Chris and the Law|law]] when it inconveniences him.

*Chris has an extremely narrow range of interests. He seems to only give a damn about video games, prowling for his next [[sweetheart]], his initials, and [[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu]], so much to the point where he practically places [[Sonichu (character)|him]] somewhere in everything he creates. He often wishes to [[dating|combine]] two [[LittleBigPlanet#First Date Level|interests]].

*Although he does not demonstrate any [[Honor roll|competency]] with them, Chris has a fixation on numbers and statistics that would generally be irrelevant to others. He describes measures in concrete terms (e.g. "5 mies[sic] from the city"<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_0/Page_2</ref> instead of "outside the city"), and has a particular obsession with times and dates, timestamping nearly every scene in the comic and giving his characters birthdays and middle names that have no relevance to the plot (unless it becomes convenient to "[[pedofork|age up]]" the characters). Needless to say, Chris's tendency to blurt out exact dates and times (assuming he's not talking out of his ass) has made the job of [[CWChronology|CWCki chronologists]] much easier. On the other hand, his haphazard treatment of dates and times in the comic has led to countless [[Continuity in the Sonichu comics#Chronology|continuity errors]].

*Chris exhibits symptoms of [[Wikipedia:Sensory defensiveness|sensory defensiveness]]; this is a common characteristic of autistic people. Chris often wears his accessories and medallions over top his clothing to avoid skin contact with metals and plastics. This is evident in the way in which Chris wears his watch over the cuff of his sleeve and wraps his medallion through the collar of his shirt.<ref>[[:File:0793-CWCIs24-2.jpg]]</ref> Most obvious however is his [[Fashion#Wrist_warmer|wrist warmer]] which he places on the chain of his medallion. Chris has stated that "[...] it is a part of my necklace; it's a "Wilson" wrist-warmer I use to cover the discomfort of the number of Links back there."<ref>Email from Chris posted in old PVCC thread 162</ref> Loud sounds also bother Chris. He was prohibited from attending pep rallies in high school,<ref>[[August 2013 Facebook Posts#Actual friendships]]</ref> and has expressed hesitation about visiting bars because of the noise.

*Chris lacks social awareness. One notable instance, as revealed in the [[autism papers]], was when two [[Niggos|African American]] ladies were speaking to Chris about his love quest, when Chris politely told them that they could not be his girlfriend because they were not white. Based on the report of the examiner, Chris believed he was merely informing the ladies as to his prerequisites for a potential sweetheart while oblivious to the fact he was being racially insensitive.<ref>[[Autism_papers#IDENTIFYING_STATEMENT:]]</ref>

*Unnatural relationships with inanimate objects are also a sign of autism; Chris has evident obsessions with his [[medallion]], his [[PlayStation 3]], and any number of other items that clutter up his [[Chris's room|room]]. Since autistic people have difficulty maintaining relationships with people they often end up becoming emotionally dependent on objects, though this symptom is seen much more in children with autism.

*Chris also appears to have echolalia, a common symptom of autism. This means that he constantly repeats phrases from his favorite television shows, movies and video games, regardless of whether they fit the current situation. In some instances, he calls this [[Random-access humor|"humor"]].

*Chris has signs of ''amusia'', better known as being "tone deaf." This is a condition where people can't distinguish between [[music]]al pitches as easily as the average person does, and it is common among autistic people. Ironically, perfect pitch is also more common among those with autism, which goes to show that the condition is truly a vast spectrum.

*One of the biggest symptoms of autism Chris displays is his fear and resistance to change, well beyond the point that it could be even related to his autism. Chris is reluctant to get or even look for a job as he has only worked [[Chris's resume|four months in his entire life,]] has never come close to moving out, has a very hard time selling or giving up his toys or shirts, wouldn't stick to a diet and exercise program, [[Attraction Sign|doesn't try new ways to attract women,]] and has a very hard time coping with his banishment from [[the GAMe PLACe]]—where he would usually spend his Fridays. This might be resistance to change of his old life style of just going to school and coming home and playing video games; his proven tendencies to avoid responsibilities and self improvement show that he is trying to remain a child or simply fears failure of all types.

*An overlooked but crucial characteristic affecting all of Chris's physical activity is his display of [[Wikipedia:Hypotonia|hypotonia]], which refers to a distinct lack of muscle tone — in biological terms referring to tension rather than the colloquial use to describe muscle strength (although raw physical strength is also affected by it) — which affects motor skills as well as stamina. Chris is not only very clumsy, he shows abnormally low muscle strength and gets tired quickly even by [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|simply shuffling around for a couple of minutes]] — which cannot be entirely explained by his lack of physical exercise. Whenever Chris is shown sitting, [[Charlottesville Fashion Square#Chris captured on video|he is spread around like a rag doll]], [[:File:0782-CWCSpread.JPG|hanging limply]]—as his muscles cannot support his entire body properly. This condition is also linked to [[speech impediment]].

*Many autistic people experience [[Tomgirl|gender identity issues]]; according to psychologist Ken Zucker, trans people are ten times more likely to be autistic than the general population. The link is caused by, among other traits, autistics' tendency to fixate on issues (in this case, gender). Many autistic males (including Chris) also have qualities that can be considered "girly", such as passiveness. Since they have less social awareness, they may behave in ways that can be considered atypical for either sex, and display less regard for gender roles. Chris and other autistic people perceive their quirks as being "female in a male body" or vice versa, and assume that they will fit in better as their desired sex.

*Studies on autistic children have shown they have a distinctive facial structure. This can include a wide upper face (including a wide forehead and wide-set eyes), a slimmer lower face, and a slim nose.<ref>https://www.cbsnews.com/news/children-with-autism-have-distinct-facial-features-study/</ref> Chris's childhood photos show the same features. To this day, Chris possesses a unique and unusual face, with sunken-in temples creating the appearance of the number "8".

==Chris's misconceptions about autism==
It's not clear that Chris has any understanding of what, precisely, autism is, except that a) he has it, b) it's a bad thing, and c) [[Chris and his Ego|he's a brave little boy for living with it]]. His song [[A-U-T-I-S-M]] sums up his attitudes about the disorder:

{{quote|A-U-T-I-S-M: what does it mean? Silence and friends unseen! A few brains as well: that is autism! And that makes us seem special to you!|Chris, attempting to spell out autism in more ways than one}}

To Chris, that's all it is — a condition that makes you a bit smarter than normal human beings and mysteriously makes people not want to be your friend.
[[File:Mii.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's personification of autism for beating up in Super Smash Bros.]]
Chris also seems to only be aware of the symptoms of autism that fit in with his odd, pseudo-Bohemian lifestyle. Asexuality is very common in autistic people; this is because any form of romance or sex may be too intimate for an autistic mind to cope with. This completely contradicts Chris's "[[Love Quest]]" and suggests that he is actually trying to compensate for his inability to feel true sexual attraction, even if that means becoming a genuinely disturbing pervert.

Chris [[Aspergers (CWCipedia article)|considers himself to have "Helped cultivate the First Generation of Autistic People",]] suggesting that he believes [[Chris and his Ego|he is a prevalent figure in the autistic community.]].

In a [[May 2010]] [[Some Favored Comedians|video]], he stated that our society is spending so much time on the Internet that ''everyone'' is becoming autistic.<ref>[[Toucher and Rich Segment#Chris's Response|Chris responds to Toucher and Rich, May 2009]]</ref><ref>[[Some Favored Comedians]]</ref> This further proves that people with little to no social contact shouldn't attempt social commentary.
That, and Chris has no fucking clue what his own disorder is actually ''like''. In [[November 2010]], he tried to use this excuse to guilt trip [[Jackie]] into being sorry for yelling at him, which worked as well as you'd expect.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 23]]</ref>

Chris's failure to understand the symptoms of autism may well explain some of his odd behaviors. Due to lack of social activity and poor theory of mind, Chris doesn't seem to realize that his behaviors are what they are, as best demonstrated by his belief that [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|it is normal for an adult to shit themselves.]] Chris does not recognize the differences between himself and others, and this applies to the differences between himself and neurotypicals - and, seeing no differences, he believes his autism to have been thoroughly conquered, even while embodying every single trait of it.

===Chris on the causes of autism===
There's a broad scientific consensus that autism largely arises from genetic factors. Chris's own case is consistent with the theory that children born to older parents are at greater risk of developing autism.<ref>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_autism#Genetics</ref> Bob and Barb were 54 and 40, respectively, when Chris was conceived.

Chris's own expressed views on the root causes of autism are all over the map. He's espoused a few different theories at different times and in different situations. His oldest theory, dating back to the [[Song of Christian]] in the late 1990s, is that the [[abusive babysitter]] was responsible for his condition. In [[Mumble 3|his arguments with]] [[Clyde Cash]] in early 2009, he said that "scientifically speaking, [autism] has possibly come from a drug, or otherwise it may possibly be genetic", and that the babysitter incident merely "brought out the, uh, curse that was buried within me."

When explaining his condition to [[Father Call|Matt Devoria]] late in the fall of 2009, Chris insisted that autism has no genetic factors. In that instance, however he had an obvious agenda. He hoped to convince Matt that any children he fathered with Matt's daughter [[Kacey]] wouldn't wind up inheriting his condition; because of this, it's difficult to say exactly how sincere he happened to be at that moment.

To muddle the issue even ''further'', in [[Mailbag 12]], Chris blamed the cause of autism on a shot "the doctor's [sic] optionally give to the child after birth", apparently in reference to the highly disputed [[wikipedia:MMR vaccine controversy|urban myth]] alleging that childhood vaccinations lead to autism. It's not likely that Chris even has that much of an awareness of the facts and assertions of said myth, and was probably looking for a throwaway excuse to deny any hereditary factors.

In a [[Some Favored Comedians|video]] in 2010 Chris said the Internet made people autistic, likely confusing the hyperbolic claim often made jokingly to that effect with fact. Ironically Chris's excessive use of the Internet in place of human interaction have probably done more to exacerbate his symptoms than almost anything else.

In his [[Autism Tutorial Part 1|Autism Tutorial]] from early 2011, Chris slewed back toward a more mainstream view, discussing the genetic factors behind autism and complaining about how his parents conceived him late in life. He also, however, warned viewers that smoking, drinking, or exposure to car exhaust could cause dangerous genetic damage that might result in autistic children.

===Chris versus Asperger syndrome===
{{see also|Asperger syndrome}}

Chris is easily outraged by any attempt to associate or confuse autism, high-functioning or otherwise, with Asperger syndrome, a similar condition now considered by many experts to overlap with HFA on the autistic spectrum. (In fact, it has been proposed that Asperger syndrome be placed on the autism spectrum in the new DSM-V, making both the condition and "high-functioning autism" one and the same.<ref>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-V#Asperger_syndrome</ref>) At times, Chris has stated that he dislikes Asperger syndrome because sufferers of the disorder supposedly steal sympathy away from autism awareness. He has also claimed that the name is too close to "ass burger" or "ass booger" for his taste. In the early days of the CWCipedia Mailbag, asking Chris about Asperger syndrome was the most effective way to troll him; this culminated in the creation of [[Asperchu]].

In the present, Chris simply hates Asperger syndrome because it reminds him of how angry he got the last time someone brought it up — in other words, a completely unjustifiable opinion. Chris has declared himself "close-minded" on the subject, dismissing all scientific opinion contrary to his own, and angrily refuses to be convinced that he does not occupy a more favorable (exactly what that means depends on whether Chris is looking for pity or adulation at the time) tier of the spectrum.

==Chris on autism education==
Chris is a firm believer in mainstream education for children with autism, a trait he doubtlessly picked up from his parents, who went to [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School|incredible lengths]] to keep him in mainstream classrooms throughout his school years. Aside from speech therapy lessons intended to help him recover from his period of muteness as a child, as far as the available records indicate, Chris has never received any sort of special education geared towards dealing with his autism or related issues.

[[Mailbag 12|When asked for his advice on how to raise an autistic child]], Chris replied "...Most Importantly, MAINSTREAM; let your child be free to communicate and associate with the Normal Society. Special Education is okay, but that will not do in the longest run." Later, [[Mailbag 15|for advice on how "to succeed despite being afflicted with Asperger's"]], Chris's only response was, "My advice is to Mainstream the child."

During a [[04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless|video from April 2010]], Chris read off a lengthy printout of autism-related information. After quoting a passage about how the education of autistic children should be undertaken by trained professionals in specialized settings, Chris offered his own opinion.

{{quote|As for me though, I highly recommend mainstreaming, lettin' 'em go though normal life. I mean yeah, give 'em the special treatment while they're young... but when you get 'em in elementary or middle school... or high school, mainstream is the way to go.|Chris, [[04232010 - Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless|Autism Awareness & Men Should NEVER be Topless]]}}

In short, Chris believes that the approach that produced the man as we know him today (i.e. ignoring the problem and doing nothing to help it) is the best possible way to raise and educate children with autism.

==Autism cured?==

[[Image:454-CWCsPossibleFuture.JPG|thumb|Autism appears to be in Chris's future...]]

Chris's greatest dream is that his autism might one day be cured (although in 2006 he would have unhesitatingly sacrificed such a cure in order to obtain a [[PlayStation 3]]). There are instances of children inexplicably recovering from the symptoms, but there is no known cure for autism that can simply be applied to everyone like Chris's "homo vaccine." Imagine the surprise of the mental health community, then, when Chris revealed in [[March 2009]] that he had overcome his autism once and for all:<ref>[[Sarah Reveals Herself]]</ref>

:'''Christopher C.W.C.:''' I'm not going to blame it on my autism; I have realized that I am over that now.
:'''Sarah May:''' Over what?
:'''Sarah May:''' Over your autism?
:'''Christopher C.W.C.:''' yes
:'''Sarah May:''' . . .
:'''Christopher C.W.C.:''' anyway, what is it that you want to do?
:'''Sarah May:''' Christian
:'''Sarah May:''' Are you serious?
:'''Sarah May:''' Autism is not influenza
:'''Sarah May:''' You don't 'get over it'
:'''Christopher C.W.C.:''' I've broken out of my autistic shell, and I am better able to socialize in public, with the past practices online.

Chris claimed during the same chat that he may not be making sense due to a virus, easily allowing for him to retract this. Fortunately, Chris has discovered that [[stress]] is a more socially popular scapegoat for his personal shortcomings. Of course, people learn to manage stress, but what do you expect?

As of [[May 2009]], Chris seemed to have regained his autism and was back to [[Wikipedia|blaming it]] for all his problems, seemingly believing that autism is as easy to shake/regain as the common flu. However, [[November 2009]] saw Chris again claiming to have been miraculously cured, as stated at the end of part 2 of his [[Sonichu Powerpoint]] presentations, where he described himself as a "high-functioning autistic ''recovered''". A [[December 2009|month later]], Chris again backpedaled; in response to ED's claim he was "suffering" from autism, he [[Chris chan (CWCipedia)|agreed]] that "''I still am for real.''"

Chris's flip-flopping self-diagnosis simply illustrates his misunderstanding of his problems. Since autism is his scapegoat for when he fucks up, to him that's really all it is — a disease that makes people fuck up all the time. Therefore, when he fails, he has a bad case of autism, and when everything is going well (such as when he believes he has a girlfriend), he thinks the autism has gone away. What Chris really wants, then, is not a cure for autism but a life in which nothing happens that he would need to blame on his autism; that is, a life in which he has a girlfriend and nobody criticizes him.

In June of 2016, he [[Announcement_06292016#Video_2|claimed to have cured his autism]] using [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]]. He stated that the track made him think clearer and [[Chris and socialization|interact better with others]]. However, he has shown no improvement in the quality of his recent videos.

==Things Chris has not blamed on his autism==
[[Image:Tumbleweed.gif|What did you expect?]]

==Chris and other autistics==

Listening to Chris go on about "us TRUE and HONEST autistics," you might think he has some kind of misplaced sense of autistic solidarity. But this would merely be dumb, and Chris-chan always shoots for both dumb and repugnant, so the reality is that he doesn't give a shit about anyone's autism but his own. He calls lower-functioning autistics "windows into hell"<ref>[[IRC (17 December 2008)]]</ref> and regards them with [[Chris and hypocrisy|exactly the same kind of fear and mistrust he bitches about people treating him with]] when in reality many much lower functioning autistics lead far more independent and fulfilling lives than he does. He has also expressed a disdain for others with high-functioning autism, with HFA being one of the characteristics excluding a woman from being a [[attraction sign|potential sweetheart]]. Meanwhile, he looks at people with [[Asperger Syndrome]], who are on roughly the same part of the spectrum as him, as dirty whores trying to somehow steal the limelight from "real" autistics (ironically, many feel this way about Chris).

Chris has only once included another autistic person in his comics. In emails with [[Sarah Jackson]], she told Chris that her sister was also a high-functioning autistic. When Sarah was included in [[Sonichu 9#Episode 19: Date Ed (Even Though the Idea Sounds Dated)|Episode 19]], so was her sister, [[Rita]]. When Rita was given dialogue after Sarah's [[death]], what she said made so little sense grammatically (even by [[Chris and writing|Chris's standards]]) that it is hard to see it as unintentional. It can therefore be speculated that Chris, thinking his own autism so much better than anyone else's, was attempting to make Rita seem as unintelligent as he assumes other autistics and people with mental disorders are.

For their part, people with autism universally facepalm when they look at Chris, with some even going as far as [[A-Logging|wishing he'd fuck off and die]] and stop giving them a bad name. The deleted article about Chris on TV Tropes said it best: they wish he'd Stop Being Stereotypical and embodying the worst perceptions of their condition. The article also noted that to people with autism or Asperger's, Chris was "Paranoia Fuel;" that is to say, it scares them to think they're like him. [[Chris and hypocrisy|For the actual high-functioning autistics out there, Chris himself is the "window into hell"]].

The Aspies for Freedom website has had a couple of run-ins with Chris that nicely demonstrate how other autistics regard him:

* [http://web.archive.org/web/20110915021308/http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthread.php?tid=14371 Aspies For Freedom thread] where Chris or someone impersonating Chris asks for help against [[ED]]. The aspies offer the usual advice of ignoring the [[trolls]], which by the way is the best advice.

* [http://web.archive.org/web/20110915021331/http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthread.php?tid=15676 Aspies For Freedom thread] where someone asks about Chris, but everyone else just wants to avoid the drama. A few of them realize that what ED says is true even though it may be a "hate site". Apparently, previous drama involving Chris led them to disable registration.

The [http://autism.wikia.com/wiki/Christian_Chandler Autism Wiki] calls Chris an enemy of the Autism Community.

Tl;dr: Chris has no support in the online autistic community unless it's from someone who would rather he commit suicide.

== References ==
<references/>

==See also==
* [[Asperger syndrome]]
* [[Aspergers (CWCipedia article)]]
* [[A-U-T-I-S-M]]
* [[Autism Tutorial]]
* [[Chris and psychology]]
* [[Kick the Autistic]]
* [[Slow-in-the-minds]]
* [[Stress]]

==External links==
*[http://autism.wikia.com/wiki/Christian_Chandler Christian Chandler on the Autism Wiki]

{{CWC-isms}}
{{Love quest}}

[[Category:Autistic Spectrum Disorders]]
[[Category:Physical characteristics]]

Asperchu

2019-04-20T16:23:44Z

Thnxbb:

{{Articleofthenow}}
[[File:Alec Benson Leary.jpg|thumbnail|right|Alec Benson Leary, in the flesh.]]

:''This article discusses the award-winning comic series '''''Asperchu''''' and its relationship with Chris. For information about the ''Asperchu'' series itself, please see [[Asperchu/Background]].''

'''''Asperchu''''' is a multiple award-winning comic series created by Alec Benson Leary of [[Wikipedia:Eden Prairie, Minnesota|Eden Prairie, Minnesota]].<ref>[[Mailbag 19#A very Asperchu Christmas]]</ref> His [[Chris and art|deft artwork]], [[Chris and writing|gripping stories, and excellent characterization]] has resulted in the series gaining hundreds of fans in the few short months since its inception. Many of these fans were discontented followers of the [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'' comics]], who were turned off by the comics becoming exponentially more disturbing.

==Similarities to Chris==
[[Image:Asperchu-and-sonichu-meet.jpg|thumb|left|The first drawing Alec sent Chris.]]
[[File:Vote sonichu for DA.jpg|thumb|[[Sonichu]] for DA.]]
While Alec has stated that Asperchu is not a parody of [[Chris]],<ref>[[Mailbag 32]]</ref> there are many similarities between the two. Both of them are [[Obesity|overweight]], [[Pedo-Glasses|bespectacled]], [[The Classic|striped-shirt wearing]] [[naïve]] individuals who find themselves somewhat out of place in the world. They both address the masses through [[List of videos|YouTube videos]], and both are preoccupied with finding a [[boyfriend-free girl]] to make into a [[sweetheart]].

These similarities between the two characters has resulted in no shortage of [[Chris and anger|rage]] from Chris. He seems to feel that the only reason Asperchu exists is to poke fun at him. He also takes serious offense at the idea of a [[Sonichu (species)|Sonichu]] who suffers from [[Asperger's]], for [[Chris and his Ego|some reason]].

==Chris on Asperchu==
{{quote|''Die'', you son of a bitch! Alec... '''Die'''.|[[Chris]]<ref>[[Down With Asperchu]]</ref>}}
[[File:AsperchuNoHomo.JPG|thumb|The second drawing Alec sent Chris.]]

It's no secret that Chris hates Asperger's syndrome (and presumably everybody that suffers from it), due to some illusory sense of competition between Asperger's and other disorders on the [[autism]] spectrum. The knowledge that someone had created a series about an [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] who suffered from the affliction did not sit well with him. He became even angrier when the creator of the series himself started sending him e-mails.

The first recorded communication we have between Alec and Chris implies that Alec had been in contact with him multiple times outside of the public view and that Chris had responded to these communications negatively.<ref>[[Mailbag 10#Meet Asperchu]]</ref> Chris didn't respond any better on his public mailbag, claiming that Alec was jealous of him and inexplicably alleging that the included fan art of Asperchu and Sonichu implied [[homos]]exuality.

Upset that Chris would jump to such conclusions, Alec sent him another letter, depicting Sonichu and Asperchu having good, masculine, straight fun.<ref>[[Mailbag 17#Sonichu loves Asperchu no homo]]</ref> This letter was even more poorly received.

Undaunted, Alec continued to send letters to Chris's mailbag, thinking that perhaps the man he respected so much really just misunderstood him. A few of these letters were [[Mailbag 19#A very Asperchu Christmas|ignored]], some were [[Mailbag 28#Hey kids, it's Asperchu!|coldly dismissed]], but Chris's most [[Mailbag 31#Asperchu is the shit|notable]] [[Mailbag 32#Parodies|responses]] were explosive outbursts of [[Chris and anger|anger]] and hatred. Eventually, Chris began [[Mailbag 35#No comment|refusing to respond]] to Alec's correspondence, or [[Mailbag 34#Asperpedia!|deleting his messages outright]].

In ''Asperchu'' Issue C, Chris made an appearance asking for help from the characters to save Asperchu. Later, he and [[Liquid Chris|CChanSonichuCWC]] met up with each other, leading to a standoff where Chris tried to shoot him. Chris [[Asperchu is a Horrendous Joke|responded]] to the comic, mentioning that he was set on fire in the comic. He didn't seem to notice that he was also called by the name [[Ian Brandon Anderson]], nor did he notice the appearance of Liquid Chris.

When the ''Asperchu'' saga started to taking off, Chris's schedule for [[Sonichu (comic)|his own comic]] had [[stress|dropped drastically]].

Beyond this, Chris made clear that he also hates the comic because of its "uncensored pictures" and "low resolution and blocky art". Here, we see Chris's [[Chris and hypocrisy|hypocrisy]] in action. The "uncensored pictures" he's all up in arms over are just minor posters hung up mostly in Asperchu's room and even so, they are mostly hidden away by the character's heads. Chris's "uncensored pictures" are done by the main characters in full view, despite the fact that ''Sonichu'' is supposed to be a "kids' comic". Chris probably took the terms "blocky" and "low-resolution" from the ''[[Family Guy]]'' episode [[Wikipedia:Road to the Multiverse|Road to the Multiverse]]. Of course, compared to Chris's [[Chris and art|art]], it's the fucking ''Mona Lisa''. It also helps that Alec is humble and doesn't try to act like his artwork is amazing and worthy of being hung in a museum.

==Asperpedia==
[[Image:Haitihelp.JPG|thumb|Clearly, Asperchu is pure evil.]]
After finishing the first three issues of his comic, Alec Benson Leary set up his own Mediawiki website where one could read all existing comics, as well as a number of articles about the world of ''Asperchu'', and read fan mail answered by Mr. Leary. Soon afterward, portals were added to the site for other notable comics, such as [[Evan]]'s [[Evan#Simonchu|''Simonchu'']], {{anchor|Sean}} and ''Sonichu is Dead'' creator Sean August Watley's latest project, ''[[Moon-Pals]]''. In [[February 2010]], more comics were added, including Alec's ''Sonichu Revolution'', Sean's ''Sonichu is Dead'' and ''Sonichu is Gay'', and Isabel Monday's ''Capering Berries''.

[[Jack Thaddeus]], recognizing the incredible profit potential of ''Asperchu'', immediately began advertising the new website on the [[CWCipedia]]. Chris responded to these new ads, and his newfound knowledge of Alec's website with a series of increasingly disturbing videos<ref>[[Down with Asperchu]], [[12 January 2010]], [[14 January 2010]], [[15 January 2010]], [[U8C43P2A37A8 y U8C1N023V0L]]</ref> where he made his opinions on the matter quite clear.

Alec, being a gentle soul, has not directly responded to any of Chris's offensive videos. When [[Down with Asperchu#Alec's response to the video|asked by a concerned fan]], he outlined his planned course of action as one of peace, citing his personal hero, [[Wikipedia:Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi|Mahatma Gandhi]]. His webmaster, Mao "Bamboo" Ling has opted for a more direct approach, speaking to Chris directly in two short [[YouTube]] videos.

The large banner ad for Asperpedia was replaced by a link to information on the U.S. Government's efforts to help the victims of [[Wikipedia:2010 Haiti earthquake|the earthquake in Haiti]], because Alec cares about the plight of his fellow men.

Due to the growing popularity of ''Asperchu'' over ''Sonichu'', the site later set up a fan portal where aspiring writers can make their own ''Sonichu'' fanfictions. Various pre-existing titles, including ''Sonichu: The Animated Series'', are also hosted in the fan section. There is even a parody version of [[CWCipedia]] set up by Mao, where totally fictitious articles on ''Sonichu''-related things are made, including photoshopped images of the original comic.

Eventually on May 27, 2010, Mao took complete control of CWCipedia, after which Alec and [[Vivian Gee]] started uploading ''Sonichu'' Season 2. The CWCipedia was then permanently deleted for Mao to gain the upper hand after noting to the Comic Fury staff that, without ''Sonichu'' and Chris to bargain for a lower price, they must be forced to sign with him. The rights to the Asperpedia was then sold for $150,000.

The Asperpedia was eventually shut down, however, according to Alec Benson Leary, "It was run by a spazlord who took it down randomly in a fidgety fit one day. I didn't care to fight for it."

===The 19 January Demands===
On 19 January 2010, Chris uploaded twelve new pages of [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], which are centered mostly around Asperchu and the Asperpedia. [[Chris and his Ego|Ever the heroic savior]], Chris pictures himself, along with [[Ultra Sonichu]], destroying the slanderous Asperpedia and saving Alec's characters from their [[Asperger syndrome|terrible affliction]], with Asperchu himself getting an "EXTREME ELECTRIC MAKEOVER" and becoming "[[Mitch Sonichu]]".

Not content with this, Chris then issued an ultimatum to Alec through a blog post:

{{Quote|Although within Alec's Hands, Asperchu IS a horrific joke, not only because of the uncensored nudity, wrongful character usage and all that, but also because the whole thing is drawn in a c***py Blocky and Low Resolution way.

I still have NO association with Alec Benson Leary OR HIS Asperchu character Whatsoever, but I will forgive Alec for his error if he FOLLOWS from my new plot and Extreme Electric Makeover as a template. He is no longer "Asperchu", just call him [[Mitch Sonichu]].|Chris's featured quote on January 19, 2010.}}

Alec didn't listen to Chris's demands, instead keeping everyone there and just introducing Mitch Sonichu as simply "Mitch Chu", who appears to be a [[Homos|gay stylist]], as well as Whisp Sonichu as the character Whispy Sonichu, Punchy's [[slow-in-the-mind]] cousin.

==Apologies==
In [[Apologies to Alec and Evan|a 1 February 2010 video]], Chris finally admitted that Asperchu was not a [[parody]] of himself or his original creation, Sonichu, and was instead a completely original character. He also apologized for spreading lies about Alec, such as suggesting that he [[Mailbag 50|only responded to fan mail that puts him in a positive light]], and for the constant [[death threats]] against him. He also apologized for trying to commandeer [[Evan]]'s [[Simonchu]] character (though he tactfully avoided mentioning his blatant ripoff, [[Simonla]]).

However, Chris's real motivations quickly become obvious as he proceeded to beg Alec and Evan to help him take down the [[CWCipedia#CWCipedia Advertisements|CWCipedia ads]], which had become increasingly homoerotic and insulting to Chris.

A few days later, Chris made [[I am Alive|another video]] fully apologizing for his threats towards the four, deciding to give up Simonla and delivering a half-assed Forgiveness Blessing to Mao, in the hope of finally removing the ads (which also included a [[parody]] of [[ShecameforCWC.JPG]] involving him and [[Snorlax|his mom]] and an obituary for Chris).

On 25 [[February 2010]], Chris released the last pages of [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], in which he did kill off [[Simonla]]... but turned around and ''brutally executed'' the "Asperpedia Four."

[[Book10Replacement|A revised version]], inspired by Chris's [[sweetheart]] [[Jackie]], replaced the death sentences with a lifetime placement among the Amish. Jackie insisted on a parade in honor of Alec and Asperchu<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 19]]</ref><ref>[[Jackie E-mails 20]]</ref><ref>[[Lars Call]]</ref> but Chris did not honor his promise.

By 2017, Chris had become more amenable towards ''Sonichu'' fan-fiction and parodies. He apologised to Alec in a Facebook post that October and offered that if Alec would print ''Asperchu'' through a self-publishing site, he would trade printed ''Sonichu'' in exchange.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_Facebook_posts#Print_editions_for_fancomics</ref>

==Phone calls==
{{main|Alec Benson Leary calls}}

{{quote|Encourage the fans that were originally my fans to come back to me.|Chris}}

On 9 [[February 2010]], [[Mao]] sent [[Evan]] and [[Sean]] a series of seven phone conversations between Alec Benson Leary and Chris. While these conversations were meant to stay between the [[Asperpedia]] staff, they were eventually leaked by Mao for the world to hear. An [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 8|eighth]] and [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 9|ninth]] phone call between Chris and Alec followed on 18 February and 25 February, respectively.

==Trial and execution of Asperpedia staff==

{{Quote|We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore.|Chris, [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]]}}

Despite Alec attempting to help Chris out several times during the phone calls, Chris would involve Alec, along with Mao, Sean and Evan, in the penultimate pages of [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]]. They are portrayed as stupid, murderous characters, who are tried by [[CWCville]]'s court for the murder of [[Simonla Rosechu]], as well as the theft and mockery of several citizens of CWCville. After a kangaroo court trial (in CWCville's favor, of course), Alec and co. are sentenced to death, Alec specifically in a "ten-button Electric chair". He is electrocuted to death by various characters that were "misrepresented" in ''Asperchu'', including Sonichu, who states that he is [[Homos|"not gay"]] as he jointly ends Alec's life. Chris himself also joins in on the fun, and ironically, and also hypocritically, states that Alec is a "d*** lunatic," after which he helps fry him to a crisp, before proceeding to slowly twist Mao's limbs backwards until they snap using telekinesis, followed shortly after by crushing his heart. Evan is horribly mutilated by [[Sandy Rosechu]] whilst chained to a wall, and Sean is used as target practice by [[Bill the Scientist]], [[Kel]] and [[Allison]].

Amidst this brutality, Chris sees fit to [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Calls|apologize]] for some of his own wrongdoings towards the Asperchu Four, as well as his fans.

In recent updates to [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]], Chris made good on his promise to "revive" Simonla. However, in the pages, it is revealed that [[:Image:Son11p22.jpg|she never died in the first place]]. This means that Chris set up the trial on a whim just so he would have a convenient excuse to kill Alec, Mao, Sean, and Evan.

==''Sonichu Revolution''==
When the CWCipedia was taken down during the [[Simonchu]] dispute, it appeared Chris was not going to budge and would [[9_February_2010|possibly set up shop elsewhere]]. Considering Chris's laziness, how long that would take was anyone's guess. The possibility that no new comics would appear for days, weeks, or even months was likely, and this didn't take into account how often Chris's new digs would get hacked. Fortunately Alec, being the nice guy that he is, decided ''Sonichu'' fans should not be deprived of the promised reboot. He took it upon himself to not only deliver fans new pages through Chris's site, but to also take care of the looming copyright issues that Chris had been unwilling to tackle. All while still uploading new ''Asperchu'' comics.

Chris, of course, took this in entirely the wrong way. In the [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 8|eighth phone call]], he accused Alec of stealing his work and attempting to impersonate him. Also, while he expressed offense at the violence of some of the ''Sonichu Revolution'' strips, he showed no signs of grasping the way Alec's comic mocks the unoriginality, moral hypocrisy, sexual degeneracy, and generally warped outlook of Chris's original ''Sonichu'' stories.

===''Sonichu Revolution'' Gallery===
<center>
<gallery>
Image:Sonichurevolution01.jpg
Image:Sonichurevolution02.jpg
Image:Sonichurevolution03.jpg
Image:Sonichurevolution4.jpg
Image:Sonichurevolution05.jpg
Image:Sonichurevolution06.jpg
Image:Sonichurevolution07.jpg
Image:Sonichurevolution08.jpg
Image:SonichuRevolution9.jpg
Image:SonichuRevolution10.jpg
Image:SonichuRevolution11.jpg
Image:Sonichurevolution12.jpg
Image:Sonichurevolution13.jpg
</gallery>
</center>

==CWCipedia advertisements==
[[File:Asperchuissue5ad.jpg|thumb|200px|The ad in question.]]
Shortly after 110mb returned from what may have been its billionth outage, a large ''Asperchu'' ad appeared at the top of every article, depicting [[Sonichu]] shooting Chris in the calves ([[Sonichu Special 4|sound familiar?]]) while calling him a "[[Honest Content|fat little son of a bitch]]". Chris claimed that he won't let the ad get to him, but as anyone who has heard a lulzcow claim this before knows, this implies that he could possibly be one good push away from an explosion. Either that, or he failed to grasp this ad like the [[ShecameforCWC.jpg]] ad parody.

[[Jackie e-mails|Jackie]] came across this ad and, thinking it was one of the ''Sonichu'' comics, thought it was, as advertised, fucking awesome. Chris explained to her it was really a troll advertisement, which eventually lead to him showing her [[CWCki]] and her finding out what a lazy monster he is, ending the online correspondence. So even if it failed to provoke a response from Chris, it managed to perform some small service in [[The Miscreants|the larger scheme of things]].

[[File:AsperchuMarkDeux.jpg|thumb|left|200px|The (other) ad in question.]]

Eventually, the ad was taken down, although it was quickly replaced with another, smaller one featuring a callback to the scene of [[Evan]]'s cold-blooded torture from [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]]. Chris has yet to respond to this, most likely because he's too busy [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|bitching about not being unbanned from The GAMe PLACe]].

[[File:Sonichu0.jpg|thumb|200px|The (final) ad in question.]]

Yet another ad was put up a few days later, depicting Chris' final death. It was taken down relatively quickly and replaced with an Autism Awareness Month ad (featuring a mention of the hated [[Asperger's syndrome]], no less), so it isn't unreasonable to believe Chris may have missed this one entirely.

== [[Calling Out]] ==
After attempting to ignore Alec for well over a year and a half, Chris suddenly turned around and revealed a possible dox on Alec. He proclaimed that he's a [[South Park|"fatty-fat-fat"]] named Christopher who makes donations to [[The GAMe PLACe]] and doesn't have Aspergers. Like [[Surfshack Tito]] and [[Thorg]], he demanded reparations - namely that he make a video apologizing for [[Chris and copyright|infringing on his Sonichu "copyright"]] and then [[Chris and hypocrisy|leave the Internet]].

On 30 August 2011, the day before Alec's deadline, [[Christopher Paul Whitney reveal|Chris revealed]] the true identity of Alec as 36-year old "Christopher Paul Whitney", of San Antonio, Texas, better known as [[YouTube]] sensation "Fatman."

Unbeknownst to Chris, the dox wasn't true. Not only does Fatman have a completely different voice than Alec, he would have no motivation to troll Chris, let alone create a comic about him. The information on Fatman wasn't even accurate - Fatman is from Rutland, Vermont (which he later pointed out) and since he was born in 1980, he would have been 30 or 31 when Chris made his video. But Chris being Chris, was [[naïve]] enough to believe they were the same person, especially since Fatman represented what Chris thought his tormentors were really like.

Fatman later made a video response, where he called Chris a [[Slow-in-the-minds|"dumb ass"]] for thinking he was Alec. Chris never replied to the video and presumably never saw it due to the death of [[Bob Chandler|his father]] a week after he "revealed" Fatman.

== Legacy ==
One of the last surviving relics of the ''Asperchu'' saga met its demise during the [[Destruction Of Chris's House|fire]] which ravaged [[14 Branchland Court]] on 10 [[January 2014]]. The Asperchu [[medallion]], gifted to Chris by Alec, was destroyed in the fire, as Chris revealed in a [[Facebook]] post on [[August 2014 Facebook Posts#Fan items lost in the fire|2 August 2014]].<ref>[[August 2014 Facebook Posts#Fan items lost in the fire|August 2014 Facebook Posts]]</ref> Notably, the somber tone Chris takes on in this post when recalling the destruction of this and other fan items seems to suggest that his feelings toward Alec and ''Asperchu'' as a whole may have softened over the years, though he could have just been feigning this for sympathy to [[Chris and money|e-beg]].

Notably, Chris states that he does not know who made the medallion (or any of the other lost fan creations), suggesting that he [[Slow-in-the-minds|might not remember Alec at all]].

''Asperchu'' was mentioned in the [[CatKnight Interview]], in which Arthur Spatchcock brought up the series as a potential threat to ''Sonichu''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> distribution in Europe, likely due to Alec's claim on the copyright of the character Mitch Sonichu. Chris reasoned that Asperchu "is definitely not a canon character" in his comics, [[Retroactive continuity in Sonichu|except for when he is]], rendering the issue moot [[Chris and copyright|as far as Chris is concerned]].<ref>[[CatKnight Interview]], [https://soundcloud.com/cat-knight-430471584/part-1-christine/s-iCiQa part 1], 8:40.</ref> Once again, Alec is not mentioned directly.

==Idea Guy influences==
{{main|Idea Guy}}

[[File:Alec as Bodhi.jpg|thumb|Chris believes this is Alec - actually Bodhi from Payday 2.]]

During the Idea Guy saga, Chris's belief in multiple dimensions was exploited and his sense of reality hijacked to make changes to many of Chris's characters, concepts and perspective of the real world, with him considering them to be valid. Ideas involving Alec and Asperchu include:

*Chris wanted clarification over what really happened in [[Sonichu 10]] and asked Idea Guy if Alec and the other Asperpedia Four trolls were saved by becoming Amish or executed. Since Idea Guy was playing Payday 2 at the time, he used the character Bodhi's bio for a revised version of Alec, telling Chris that Alec had escaped and gave Chris the picture of Bodhi, saying it was Alec<ref>[[Idea Guy Q&A]]</ref>.

*Asperchu is one of the 69 Destined Sonichus and Rosechus.<ref>[[:File:69_Sonichus.jpg]]</ref>

==References==
<references/>

==See also==
*[[Asperchu/Background]]: More about the comic itself.

==External links==
* [http://www.youtube.com/user/Asperchu Asperpedia's YouTube channel]
* [http://asperchu.thecomicseries.com/archive/ Asperchu on ComicFury]
* [https://archive.org/details/AsperpediaRecoveryFiles Asperpedia Comic Archive]

{{Sonichu}}
[[Category:Not TRUE and ORIGINAL]]
[[Category:Asperchu Saga]]
[[Category:Things Chris hates]]

Asperchu

2019-04-20T16:23:29Z

Thnxbb: /* External links */

{{Articleofthenow}}
{{DeadLinks}}
[[File:Alec Benson Leary.jpg|thumbnail|right|Alec Benson Leary, in the flesh.]]

:''This article discusses the award-winning comic series '''''Asperchu''''' and its relationship with Chris. For information about the ''Asperchu'' series itself, please see [[Asperchu/Background]].''

'''''Asperchu''''' is a multiple award-winning comic series created by Alec Benson Leary of [[Wikipedia:Eden Prairie, Minnesota|Eden Prairie, Minnesota]].<ref>[[Mailbag 19#A very Asperchu Christmas]]</ref> His [[Chris and art|deft artwork]], [[Chris and writing|gripping stories, and excellent characterization]] has resulted in the series gaining hundreds of fans in the few short months since its inception. Many of these fans were discontented followers of the [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'' comics]], who were turned off by the comics becoming exponentially more disturbing.

==Similarities to Chris==
[[Image:Asperchu-and-sonichu-meet.jpg|thumb|left|The first drawing Alec sent Chris.]]
[[File:Vote sonichu for DA.jpg|thumb|[[Sonichu]] for DA.]]
While Alec has stated that Asperchu is not a parody of [[Chris]],<ref>[[Mailbag 32]]</ref> there are many similarities between the two. Both of them are [[Obesity|overweight]], [[Pedo-Glasses|bespectacled]], [[The Classic|striped-shirt wearing]] [[naïve]] individuals who find themselves somewhat out of place in the world. They both address the masses through [[List of videos|YouTube videos]], and both are preoccupied with finding a [[boyfriend-free girl]] to make into a [[sweetheart]].

These similarities between the two characters has resulted in no shortage of [[Chris and anger|rage]] from Chris. He seems to feel that the only reason Asperchu exists is to poke fun at him. He also takes serious offense at the idea of a [[Sonichu (species)|Sonichu]] who suffers from [[Asperger's]], for [[Chris and his Ego|some reason]].

==Chris on Asperchu==
{{quote|''Die'', you son of a bitch! Alec... '''Die'''.|[[Chris]]<ref>[[Down With Asperchu]]</ref>}}
[[File:AsperchuNoHomo.JPG|thumb|The second drawing Alec sent Chris.]]

It's no secret that Chris hates Asperger's syndrome (and presumably everybody that suffers from it), due to some illusory sense of competition between Asperger's and other disorders on the [[autism]] spectrum. The knowledge that someone had created a series about an [[Electric Hedgehog Pokémon]] who suffered from the affliction did not sit well with him. He became even angrier when the creator of the series himself started sending him e-mails.

The first recorded communication we have between Alec and Chris implies that Alec had been in contact with him multiple times outside of the public view and that Chris had responded to these communications negatively.<ref>[[Mailbag 10#Meet Asperchu]]</ref> Chris didn't respond any better on his public mailbag, claiming that Alec was jealous of him and inexplicably alleging that the included fan art of Asperchu and Sonichu implied [[homos]]exuality.

Upset that Chris would jump to such conclusions, Alec sent him another letter, depicting Sonichu and Asperchu having good, masculine, straight fun.<ref>[[Mailbag 17#Sonichu loves Asperchu no homo]]</ref> This letter was even more poorly received.

Undaunted, Alec continued to send letters to Chris's mailbag, thinking that perhaps the man he respected so much really just misunderstood him. A few of these letters were [[Mailbag 19#A very Asperchu Christmas|ignored]], some were [[Mailbag 28#Hey kids, it's Asperchu!|coldly dismissed]], but Chris's most [[Mailbag 31#Asperchu is the shit|notable]] [[Mailbag 32#Parodies|responses]] were explosive outbursts of [[Chris and anger|anger]] and hatred. Eventually, Chris began [[Mailbag 35#No comment|refusing to respond]] to Alec's correspondence, or [[Mailbag 34#Asperpedia!|deleting his messages outright]].

In ''Asperchu'' Issue C, Chris made an appearance asking for help from the characters to save Asperchu. Later, he and [[Liquid Chris|CChanSonichuCWC]] met up with each other, leading to a standoff where Chris tried to shoot him. Chris [[Asperchu is a Horrendous Joke|responded]] to the comic, mentioning that he was set on fire in the comic. He didn't seem to notice that he was also called by the name [[Ian Brandon Anderson]], nor did he notice the appearance of Liquid Chris.

When the ''Asperchu'' saga started to taking off, Chris's schedule for [[Sonichu (comic)|his own comic]] had [[stress|dropped drastically]].

Beyond this, Chris made clear that he also hates the comic because of its "uncensored pictures" and "low resolution and blocky art". Here, we see Chris's [[Chris and hypocrisy|hypocrisy]] in action. The "uncensored pictures" he's all up in arms over are just minor posters hung up mostly in Asperchu's room and even so, they are mostly hidden away by the character's heads. Chris's "uncensored pictures" are done by the main characters in full view, despite the fact that ''Sonichu'' is supposed to be a "kids' comic". Chris probably took the terms "blocky" and "low-resolution" from the ''[[Family Guy]]'' episode [[Wikipedia:Road to the Multiverse|Road to the Multiverse]]. Of course, compared to Chris's [[Chris and art|art]], it's the fucking ''Mona Lisa''. It also helps that Alec is humble and doesn't try to act like his artwork is amazing and worthy of being hung in a museum.

==Asperpedia==
[[Image:Haitihelp.JPG|thumb|Clearly, Asperchu is pure evil.]]
After finishing the first three issues of his comic, Alec Benson Leary set up his own Mediawiki website where one could read all existing comics, as well as a number of articles about the world of ''Asperchu'', and read fan mail answered by Mr. Leary. Soon afterward, portals were added to the site for other notable comics, such as [[Evan]]'s [[Evan#Simonchu|''Simonchu'']], {{anchor|Sean}} and ''Sonichu is Dead'' creator Sean August Watley's latest project, ''[[Moon-Pals]]''. In [[February 2010]], more comics were added, including Alec's ''Sonichu Revolution'', Sean's ''Sonichu is Dead'' and ''Sonichu is Gay'', and Isabel Monday's ''Capering Berries''.

[[Jack Thaddeus]], recognizing the incredible profit potential of ''Asperchu'', immediately began advertising the new website on the [[CWCipedia]]. Chris responded to these new ads, and his newfound knowledge of Alec's website with a series of increasingly disturbing videos<ref>[[Down with Asperchu]], [[12 January 2010]], [[14 January 2010]], [[15 January 2010]], [[U8C43P2A37A8 y U8C1N023V0L]]</ref> where he made his opinions on the matter quite clear.

Alec, being a gentle soul, has not directly responded to any of Chris's offensive videos. When [[Down with Asperchu#Alec's response to the video|asked by a concerned fan]], he outlined his planned course of action as one of peace, citing his personal hero, [[Wikipedia:Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi|Mahatma Gandhi]]. His webmaster, Mao "Bamboo" Ling has opted for a more direct approach, speaking to Chris directly in two short [[YouTube]] videos.

The large banner ad for Asperpedia was replaced by a link to information on the U.S. Government's efforts to help the victims of [[Wikipedia:2010 Haiti earthquake|the earthquake in Haiti]], because Alec cares about the plight of his fellow men.

Due to the growing popularity of ''Asperchu'' over ''Sonichu'', the site later set up a fan portal where aspiring writers can make their own ''Sonichu'' fanfictions. Various pre-existing titles, including ''Sonichu: The Animated Series'', are also hosted in the fan section. There is even a parody version of [[CWCipedia]] set up by Mao, where totally fictitious articles on ''Sonichu''-related things are made, including photoshopped images of the original comic.

Eventually on May 27, 2010, Mao took complete control of CWCipedia, after which Alec and [[Vivian Gee]] started uploading ''Sonichu'' Season 2. The CWCipedia was then permanently deleted for Mao to gain the upper hand after noting to the Comic Fury staff that, without ''Sonichu'' and Chris to bargain for a lower price, they must be forced to sign with him. The rights to the Asperpedia was then sold for $150,000.

The Asperpedia was eventually shut down, however, according to Alec Benson Leary, "It was run by a spazlord who took it down randomly in a fidgety fit one day. I didn't care to fight for it."

===The 19 January Demands===
On 19 January 2010, Chris uploaded twelve new pages of [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], which are centered mostly around Asperchu and the Asperpedia. [[Chris and his Ego|Ever the heroic savior]], Chris pictures himself, along with [[Ultra Sonichu]], destroying the slanderous Asperpedia and saving Alec's characters from their [[Asperger syndrome|terrible affliction]], with Asperchu himself getting an "EXTREME ELECTRIC MAKEOVER" and becoming "[[Mitch Sonichu]]".

Not content with this, Chris then issued an ultimatum to Alec through a blog post:

{{Quote|Although within Alec's Hands, Asperchu IS a horrific joke, not only because of the uncensored nudity, wrongful character usage and all that, but also because the whole thing is drawn in a c***py Blocky and Low Resolution way.

I still have NO association with Alec Benson Leary OR HIS Asperchu character Whatsoever, but I will forgive Alec for his error if he FOLLOWS from my new plot and Extreme Electric Makeover as a template. He is no longer "Asperchu", just call him [[Mitch Sonichu]].|Chris's featured quote on January 19, 2010.}}

Alec didn't listen to Chris's demands, instead keeping everyone there and just introducing Mitch Sonichu as simply "Mitch Chu", who appears to be a [[Homos|gay stylist]], as well as Whisp Sonichu as the character Whispy Sonichu, Punchy's [[slow-in-the-mind]] cousin.

==Apologies==
In [[Apologies to Alec and Evan|a 1 February 2010 video]], Chris finally admitted that Asperchu was not a [[parody]] of himself or his original creation, Sonichu, and was instead a completely original character. He also apologized for spreading lies about Alec, such as suggesting that he [[Mailbag 50|only responded to fan mail that puts him in a positive light]], and for the constant [[death threats]] against him. He also apologized for trying to commandeer [[Evan]]'s [[Simonchu]] character (though he tactfully avoided mentioning his blatant ripoff, [[Simonla]]).

However, Chris's real motivations quickly become obvious as he proceeded to beg Alec and Evan to help him take down the [[CWCipedia#CWCipedia Advertisements|CWCipedia ads]], which had become increasingly homoerotic and insulting to Chris.

A few days later, Chris made [[I am Alive|another video]] fully apologizing for his threats towards the four, deciding to give up Simonla and delivering a half-assed Forgiveness Blessing to Mao, in the hope of finally removing the ads (which also included a [[parody]] of [[ShecameforCWC.JPG]] involving him and [[Snorlax|his mom]] and an obituary for Chris).

On 25 [[February 2010]], Chris released the last pages of [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], in which he did kill off [[Simonla]]... but turned around and ''brutally executed'' the "Asperpedia Four."

[[Book10Replacement|A revised version]], inspired by Chris's [[sweetheart]] [[Jackie]], replaced the death sentences with a lifetime placement among the Amish. Jackie insisted on a parade in honor of Alec and Asperchu<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 19]]</ref><ref>[[Jackie E-mails 20]]</ref><ref>[[Lars Call]]</ref> but Chris did not honor his promise.

By 2017, Chris had become more amenable towards ''Sonichu'' fan-fiction and parodies. He apologised to Alec in a Facebook post that October and offered that if Alec would print ''Asperchu'' through a self-publishing site, he would trade printed ''Sonichu'' in exchange.<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_Facebook_posts#Print_editions_for_fancomics</ref>

==Phone calls==
{{main|Alec Benson Leary calls}}

{{quote|Encourage the fans that were originally my fans to come back to me.|Chris}}

On 9 [[February 2010]], [[Mao]] sent [[Evan]] and [[Sean]] a series of seven phone conversations between Alec Benson Leary and Chris. While these conversations were meant to stay between the [[Asperpedia]] staff, they were eventually leaked by Mao for the world to hear. An [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 8|eighth]] and [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 9|ninth]] phone call between Chris and Alec followed on 18 February and 25 February, respectively.

==Trial and execution of Asperpedia staff==

{{Quote|We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore.|Chris, [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]]}}

Despite Alec attempting to help Chris out several times during the phone calls, Chris would involve Alec, along with Mao, Sean and Evan, in the penultimate pages of [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]]. They are portrayed as stupid, murderous characters, who are tried by [[CWCville]]'s court for the murder of [[Simonla Rosechu]], as well as the theft and mockery of several citizens of CWCville. After a kangaroo court trial (in CWCville's favor, of course), Alec and co. are sentenced to death, Alec specifically in a "ten-button Electric chair". He is electrocuted to death by various characters that were "misrepresented" in ''Asperchu'', including Sonichu, who states that he is [[Homos|"not gay"]] as he jointly ends Alec's life. Chris himself also joins in on the fun, and ironically, and also hypocritically, states that Alec is a "d*** lunatic," after which he helps fry him to a crisp, before proceeding to slowly twist Mao's limbs backwards until they snap using telekinesis, followed shortly after by crushing his heart. Evan is horribly mutilated by [[Sandy Rosechu]] whilst chained to a wall, and Sean is used as target practice by [[Bill the Scientist]], [[Kel]] and [[Allison]].

Amidst this brutality, Chris sees fit to [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Calls|apologize]] for some of his own wrongdoings towards the Asperchu Four, as well as his fans.

In recent updates to [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]], Chris made good on his promise to "revive" Simonla. However, in the pages, it is revealed that [[:Image:Son11p22.jpg|she never died in the first place]]. This means that Chris set up the trial on a whim just so he would have a convenient excuse to kill Alec, Mao, Sean, and Evan.

==''Sonichu Revolution''==
When the CWCipedia was taken down during the [[Simonchu]] dispute, it appeared Chris was not going to budge and would [[9_February_2010|possibly set up shop elsewhere]]. Considering Chris's laziness, how long that would take was anyone's guess. The possibility that no new comics would appear for days, weeks, or even months was likely, and this didn't take into account how often Chris's new digs would get hacked. Fortunately Alec, being the nice guy that he is, decided ''Sonichu'' fans should not be deprived of the promised reboot. He took it upon himself to not only deliver fans new pages through Chris's site, but to also take care of the looming copyright issues that Chris had been unwilling to tackle. All while still uploading new ''Asperchu'' comics.

Chris, of course, took this in entirely the wrong way. In the [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 8|eighth phone call]], he accused Alec of stealing his work and attempting to impersonate him. Also, while he expressed offense at the violence of some of the ''Sonichu Revolution'' strips, he showed no signs of grasping the way Alec's comic mocks the unoriginality, moral hypocrisy, sexual degeneracy, and generally warped outlook of Chris's original ''Sonichu'' stories.

===''Sonichu Revolution'' Gallery===
<center>
<gallery>
Image:Sonichurevolution01.jpg
Image:Sonichurevolution02.jpg
Image:Sonichurevolution03.jpg
Image:Sonichurevolution4.jpg
Image:Sonichurevolution05.jpg
Image:Sonichurevolution06.jpg
Image:Sonichurevolution07.jpg
Image:Sonichurevolution08.jpg
Image:SonichuRevolution9.jpg
Image:SonichuRevolution10.jpg
Image:SonichuRevolution11.jpg
Image:Sonichurevolution12.jpg
Image:Sonichurevolution13.jpg
</gallery>
</center>

==CWCipedia advertisements==
[[File:Asperchuissue5ad.jpg|thumb|200px|The ad in question.]]
Shortly after 110mb returned from what may have been its billionth outage, a large ''Asperchu'' ad appeared at the top of every article, depicting [[Sonichu]] shooting Chris in the calves ([[Sonichu Special 4|sound familiar?]]) while calling him a "[[Honest Content|fat little son of a bitch]]". Chris claimed that he won't let the ad get to him, but as anyone who has heard a lulzcow claim this before knows, this implies that he could possibly be one good push away from an explosion. Either that, or he failed to grasp this ad like the [[ShecameforCWC.jpg]] ad parody.

[[Jackie e-mails|Jackie]] came across this ad and, thinking it was one of the ''Sonichu'' comics, thought it was, as advertised, fucking awesome. Chris explained to her it was really a troll advertisement, which eventually lead to him showing her [[CWCki]] and her finding out what a lazy monster he is, ending the online correspondence. So even if it failed to provoke a response from Chris, it managed to perform some small service in [[The Miscreants|the larger scheme of things]].

[[File:AsperchuMarkDeux.jpg|thumb|left|200px|The (other) ad in question.]]

Eventually, the ad was taken down, although it was quickly replaced with another, smaller one featuring a callback to the scene of [[Evan]]'s cold-blooded torture from [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]]. Chris has yet to respond to this, most likely because he's too busy [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|bitching about not being unbanned from The GAMe PLACe]].

[[File:Sonichu0.jpg|thumb|200px|The (final) ad in question.]]

Yet another ad was put up a few days later, depicting Chris' final death. It was taken down relatively quickly and replaced with an Autism Awareness Month ad (featuring a mention of the hated [[Asperger's syndrome]], no less), so it isn't unreasonable to believe Chris may have missed this one entirely.

== [[Calling Out]] ==
After attempting to ignore Alec for well over a year and a half, Chris suddenly turned around and revealed a possible dox on Alec. He proclaimed that he's a [[South Park|"fatty-fat-fat"]] named Christopher who makes donations to [[The GAMe PLACe]] and doesn't have Aspergers. Like [[Surfshack Tito]] and [[Thorg]], he demanded reparations - namely that he make a video apologizing for [[Chris and copyright|infringing on his Sonichu "copyright"]] and then [[Chris and hypocrisy|leave the Internet]].

On 30 August 2011, the day before Alec's deadline, [[Christopher Paul Whitney reveal|Chris revealed]] the true identity of Alec as 36-year old "Christopher Paul Whitney", of San Antonio, Texas, better known as [[YouTube]] sensation "Fatman."

Unbeknownst to Chris, the dox wasn't true. Not only does Fatman have a completely different voice than Alec, he would have no motivation to troll Chris, let alone create a comic about him. The information on Fatman wasn't even accurate - Fatman is from Rutland, Vermont (which he later pointed out) and since he was born in 1980, he would have been 30 or 31 when Chris made his video. But Chris being Chris, was [[naïve]] enough to believe they were the same person, especially since Fatman represented what Chris thought his tormentors were really like.

Fatman later made a video response, where he called Chris a [[Slow-in-the-minds|"dumb ass"]] for thinking he was Alec. Chris never replied to the video and presumably never saw it due to the death of [[Bob Chandler|his father]] a week after he "revealed" Fatman.

== Legacy ==
One of the last surviving relics of the ''Asperchu'' saga met its demise during the [[Destruction Of Chris's House|fire]] which ravaged [[14 Branchland Court]] on 10 [[January 2014]]. The Asperchu [[medallion]], gifted to Chris by Alec, was destroyed in the fire, as Chris revealed in a [[Facebook]] post on [[August 2014 Facebook Posts#Fan items lost in the fire|2 August 2014]].<ref>[[August 2014 Facebook Posts#Fan items lost in the fire|August 2014 Facebook Posts]]</ref> Notably, the somber tone Chris takes on in this post when recalling the destruction of this and other fan items seems to suggest that his feelings toward Alec and ''Asperchu'' as a whole may have softened over the years, though he could have just been feigning this for sympathy to [[Chris and money|e-beg]].

Notably, Chris states that he does not know who made the medallion (or any of the other lost fan creations), suggesting that he [[Slow-in-the-minds|might not remember Alec at all]].

''Asperchu'' was mentioned in the [[CatKnight Interview]], in which Arthur Spatchcock brought up the series as a potential threat to ''Sonichu''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> distribution in Europe, likely due to Alec's claim on the copyright of the character Mitch Sonichu. Chris reasoned that Asperchu "is definitely not a canon character" in his comics, [[Retroactive continuity in Sonichu|except for when he is]], rendering the issue moot [[Chris and copyright|as far as Chris is concerned]].<ref>[[CatKnight Interview]], [https://soundcloud.com/cat-knight-430471584/part-1-christine/s-iCiQa part 1], 8:40.</ref> Once again, Alec is not mentioned directly.

==Idea Guy influences==
{{main|Idea Guy}}

[[File:Alec as Bodhi.jpg|thumb|Chris believes this is Alec - actually Bodhi from Payday 2.]]

During the Idea Guy saga, Chris's belief in multiple dimensions was exploited and his sense of reality hijacked to make changes to many of Chris's characters, concepts and perspective of the real world, with him considering them to be valid. Ideas involving Alec and Asperchu include:

*Chris wanted clarification over what really happened in [[Sonichu 10]] and asked Idea Guy if Alec and the other Asperpedia Four trolls were saved by becoming Amish or executed. Since Idea Guy was playing Payday 2 at the time, he used the character Bodhi's bio for a revised version of Alec, telling Chris that Alec had escaped and gave Chris the picture of Bodhi, saying it was Alec<ref>[[Idea Guy Q&A]]</ref>.

*Asperchu is one of the 69 Destined Sonichus and Rosechus.<ref>[[:File:69_Sonichus.jpg]]</ref>

==References==
<references/>

==See also==
*[[Asperchu/Background]]: More about the comic itself.

==External links==
* [http://www.youtube.com/user/Asperchu Asperpedia's YouTube channel]
* [http://asperchu.thecomicseries.com/archive/ Asperchu on ComicFury]
* [https://archive.org/details/AsperpediaRecoveryFiles Asperpedia Comic Archive]

{{Sonichu}}
[[Category:Not TRUE and ORIGINAL]]
[[Category:Asperchu Saga]]
[[Category:Things Chris hates]]

100 2278

2019-04-20T16:18:42Z

Thnxbb:

[[File:Studalert.png|thumb|Chris (Farley) struggles even to hold on to the bar.]]

'''100 2278''' is a video [[Chris]] created on 12 [[October 2010]], at the behest of his [[sweetheart]] [[Jackie]].<ref>[[Jackie Chat 2]]</ref><ref>[[Jackie Chat 7]]</ref><ref>[[Jackie E-mails 18]]</ref> It leaked to the public the next month, on 6 [[November 2010]]. Chris attempts to do pull-ups, but shortly after beginning, gives up and admits defeat due to his [[obesity|weight]]. This event marks a historic day in Christory as it is the first time we have witnessed him acknowledge that he is not, in fact, [[health|superhuman]].

__TOC__
{{-}}
==Video==
{{Infobox/video
| name = 100_2278
| video = {{#ev:youtube|XWTsHUjAwl8}}
| stardate = 6 [[November 2010]]
| subject = {{Power|text}}
| style = {{Reason|text}}
| saga = {{Jackie|text}}
| shirt = {{RedYellowStripeShirt|text}}
| other = {{Leaked|text}}
| previous = [[ToJackie]]
| next = [[100 2357.MOV]]
}}

=== Transcript ===
[''We see Chris's hands and knees on top of a jungle gym. He crawls backwards to grab hold of a horizontal bar.'']

[''Chris hangs from the bar, not far off the ground, for a few seconds. Quickly, the exertion causes him to lose his grip and drop to the ground.'']

[''Chris grunts and jumps up to grab the bar again.'']

Ugh...

[''He quickly falls back down, and then looks to the camera.'']

Alright, fine, I can't do a pull up. At least I tried.

[''Chris springs up and tries to grab the bar again.'']

Still tryin'.

[''Chris makes grunting and gasping sounds.'']

Well, can't do it.

[''Chris tries to do a pull-up again with visibly shaking arms, grunts and sighs.'']

Uh... Too sensitive to my... [''sound of slapping belly''] weight.

[''Chris walks off camera.'']

==Images==
Accompanying the leaked video were a selection of images, presumed to be ones Chris took for [[Jackie]].

{{Collapsible|Gallery|<gallery>
File:100_2242.JPG|The corner of Chris's room, with famous artifacts such as [[The Wall of Originals]], the [[Sailor Moon]] poster of Straightening, the [[Gitar of Fail]], and the [[fanbase|fan]] favorite, the [[The Simpsons#Marge poster|Marge poster]].
File:100_2243.JPG|The other corner has bunch of consoles. Clearly arranged in order of importance, otherwise he wouldn't put the Commodore 1541 disk drive on open and hide the [[Nintendo|Wii]] among the junk.
File:100_2244.JPG|The [[McIntire Park]] sign.
File:100_2245.JPG|The table with Lego blocks, also carrying ''Transformers'' and ''Sonic'' toys. Also a boatload of video tapes, CDs, magazines, yet another Gitar, and ironically a box or book cover whose only visible words are "the hidden".
File:100_2246.JPG|A view of the window and the chair, with too much junk to count.
File:100_2247.JPG|DVD shelves, a bunch of folders undoubtedly containing much the original hand-artery drawings of ''Sonichu'' comics, [[My Little Pony]] characters, and in case you forgot this was Chris's room, two more Gitars of Fail.
File:100_2248.JPG|Game shelf meets the DVD shelf.
File:100_2249.JPG|The doorway that leads to sweet freedom ([[Tour of Chris's House|which is a lie]]). Giant game shelves. and the mysterious blinking light ball featured in many videos.
File:100_2250.JPG|A bit of the Sulking Couch beside the door and PSP/DS game shelf. Letter box labeled "current and important". Two posters for mass debation, and a badass chain or something.
File:100_2251.JPG|More video tapes and toys beside the Sulking Couch. Noticeable failure at photographing the ''Sonic'' trinket.
File:100_2252.JPG|Back to the first corner with the Wall of Originals and Marge poster.
File:100_2253.JPG|Female martial artists are awesome! ...Except that's not a martial arts move. And that's not a female either. We've been duped!
File:100_2296.JPG|Now with extra [[Plush Breasts|boobage]].
File:100_2299.JPG|'''TITTY MONSTER'''
File:BeatSketcher20101012.png|Has Chris been improving his art during the dry spell? '''[[Chris and art|SPOILER: NO]]'''
File:ccsonichu.jpg|Chris's [[Chris-chan Sonichu|fursona]], from ''[[ECV 00002]]''.
</gallery>}}

==Fan videos==
{{Infobox/Fanvideo
| name = Chan's Dream
| video = {{#ev:youtube|rwGzjMECCAw}}
| stardate = 8 [[November 2010]]
| maker = raoulduke138
| subject = | type = | info = }}

== External links ==
* [https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1eTu0si4gKZcQOF2_SqClkyMxMDnO4fmI?usp=sharing Download archive]

==Sources==
<references/>
{{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[ToJackie]]|nextlink=[[100 2357.MOV]]}}

{{LeakedVideos}}
{{Power videos}}
[[Category:Outdoor videos]]
[[Category:Jacklyn's Naughty No Trick, All Treat, 31 Days of Halloween Contest| 2010-10-12]]
[[Category:Chris-chan videos, November 2010| 2010-11-06]]
[[Category:Jackie Saga videos| 2010-11-06]]

The Adventures of The American Rabbit

2019-04-20T16:11:47Z

Thnxbb:

{{quote|Well, after seeing this all the way through I can certainly understand how [[Christian Weston Chandler|a kid who loved this film in the late 80's]] would grow up to make a [[Sonichu (comic)|webcomic]] featuring a [[Sonichu (character)|cross between pikachu and sonic]] that goes nowhere.|[[YouTube]] commenter satinsguard, upon watching this film.}}

[[Image:Amerrabb.jpg|thumb|The American Rabbit]]

'''''The Adventures of The American Rabbit''''' is an insipid [[1980s#1986|1986]] animated film directed by [[Wikipedia:Fred Wolf (animator)|Fred Wolf]] about [[Bob Chandler|Robert]] [[Robbie Sonee|Rabbit]], a bunny who is transformed into a superhero to defend his friends, family and land from pollution and the Mafia, all while cavorting around in the most [[Slow-in-the-minds|retarded]] "costume" in superhero history: a rabbit painted in the stars and stripes and wearing roller skates (even though he can fly).

The American Rabbit originated as a poster character created by Stewart Moskowitz. Since some of Moskowitz's creations were used as mascots in Japan, [[Anime|anime]] [[Transformers|power]][[Dragon Ball Z|house]] [[Wikipedia:Toei Animation|Toei]] [[Sailor Moon|Anim]][[Chrs-Chan Pure Pulse-Jolt Lance|ation]] co-produced the film with Wolf. ''The Adventures of The American Rabbit'' bombed at the box office (gaining a mere ''$291,126'' in its opening weekend) and quickly fell into obscurity. It was the last theatrical film made by Fred Wolf, so it was a miracle that the next year, [[Wikipedia:Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1987 TV series)|two]] [[Wikipedia:DuckTales|projects]] [http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/2007/01/brief-history-of-disney-tva.html he helped produce] were major successes. Nonetheless, it set the standards for young [[Christopher's name change|Christopher]]'s perception of many things, including himself, [[America]], [[Chris and writing|storytelling]], [[Chris and race|race]] (something that will become quickly apparent to any viewer of the film in question), honesty and respect for oneself and others (which, as in the movie, are given much talk for no reason whatsoever). His claims for being truthful, honest, and decent are almost certainly informed by the movie's shallow glossing over of the issues in an anvilicious fashion. Even the "famous" cover for [[Sonichu 0|''Sonichu'' #0]] is plagiarized partially, in an eerie subconscious fashion, from a scene early in the film where the titular rabbit goes out from his home village, encouraged by his father.

Robert Rabbit is, next to [[Sonic the Hedgehog]], one of Chris's biggest role models in life. In Chris's [[Wikipedia]] entry, he stated "they REALLY SHOULD HAVE MADE A [[Chris and television|TV SERIES]] of him." Along with Filmation's ''[[Ghostbusters]]'', ''American Rabbit'' is another obscure cartoon likely culled from videotape bargain bins that had an inexplicably large impact on Chris's childhood.

==Influence==
''The Adventures of The American Rabbit'' seems to have had a tremendous influence on Chris's narrative style; the film has numerous plot holes, a bland Aesop-style moral tacked onto it, moments that make you go "Wait, ''what''?" (e.g. when some weasels somehow take over the world by kidnapping a couple of moose who make chocolate for a living), and the use of anthropomorphic animals as heroes. In other words, key ingredients of a ''Sonichu'' comic.

What's truly startling, however, is how much of it seems to have influenced Chris ''outside'' the ''Sonichu'' comics.

A character in the movie has a speech at the rally against the evil gang in the movie that starts out verbatim the same way that [[CWC's Second Message]] does, with the Panda character leading off by saying that "[they] all should know [him] by now." Much like the protagonist of the movie (and a lot of bad children's media) Chris regards his own actions as morally good no matter whether they actually are or not, and inversely the actions of his antagonists as bad simply because they aggrieve him. This very simple mentality doesn't seem to be directly tied to this movie until you look closer at it: The Jackals can get away with tormenting and destroying as they see fit, just like [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|several]] [[CWCki|things]] [[Kiwi Farms|that]] [[Liquid Chris|Chris]] [[4chan|has]] [[Get-Tar Region|compared]] [[Mary Lee Walsh|the]] [[Mal-Wart|same]] [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|way]]. If you look closer, constant analogies between this horrible movie and Chris's almost-equally-horrible life become woefully apparent.

This includes Chris's tendency to play into conspiracy theories. In ''American Rabbit'', all problems stem from the same small group of antagonists, in much the same way that Chris views all those who [[Kick the Autistic]] [[Chris and reality|as part of a conspiracy to ruin his life]]. In many ways, ''The Adventures of The American Rabbit'' thus provides one of the most compelling and disturbing looks into [[Chris and psychology|Chris's worldview]] outside his own body of work. Such was the import the young Chris assigned this testament to mediocrity that it became the centerpiece of not only how he [[Chris and writing|writes]] and even influenced how he [[Chris and English|talks]], but formed a big part of how Chris views the world itself.

==Possible influences on the ''Sonichu'' comic==
====Anchuent Powers/Legacy====
In the story, Rob Rabbit is visited at birth by a wizened old rabbit, who keeps tabs on him throughout his life until his latent powers are revealed when he saves his family. He then appears in a wizard's robe (for some reason; he isn't a wizard) and tells Robert that he has inherited the Legacy of the American Rabbit. This is very similar to Chris's [[Anchuent Prophecy]], where Chris is given superpowers for no reason other than being the author's literal Mary Sue.

====Shallow love interests====
As soon as Rob meets the [[Rosechu|pink]] Bunny O'Hare, it becomes very obvious that the two are attracted to each other. Granted, unlike the ''Sonichu'' comic, ''American Rabbit'' actually remembers that it's [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack|supposed to be for kids]] so there's never anything more than a peck on the cheek. Regardless, this could have easily set the standard for Chris's idea of love at first sight - Sonichu and Rosechu were in love less than five pages after they met. The movie only features ONE female character - the aforementioned - who does absolutely nothing whatsoever to help fight evil, helping to set the standard for Chris's views on women.

====Worthless side characters that all look alike====
To be fair, he could have just as easily gotten this from ''Sonic the Hedgehog'' or other media, but it's certainly present in ''American Rabbit''. The band Rob travels with is called the White Brothers Band, a group composed of five white rabbits who look and sound exactly alike. Even the [[Chaotic Combo]] receive (marginally) more development than this.

====Worthless side characters in general====
Notionally, besides attempting to make money to rebuild a bar, the characters traveling with Rob believe that they have a "duty to fight against evil," but out of all of them (including Rob) only Ping Pong the gorilla actually does anything effective to thwart the antagonists. This is mirrored in ''Sonichu'', where often the entire cast will struggle to defeat an enemy (or in the case of the [[Women's Rights|women]], stand around and watch) because Chris wants his [[Darkbind Sonichu|flavour of the month]] to be the focus of the action.

====Worthless [[Jerkop|law enforcement]]====
Rob's world has ''no meaningful law enforcement'' and the Jackals are free to terrorize, destroy, and threaten the global economy as they see fit (even though, as addressed, the means through which they do so make absolutely no sense). The Jackals' ability to get away with what they do in the cartoon indicates that, American Rabbit aside, there is no organized police or military force of ''any kind''. This is analogous to the dystopian [[CWCville]], where [[Chris-Chan Sonichu]] and his [[Electric Hedgehog Pokemon]] are the only thing standing between the Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens and the terrified citizenry of the ailing dictatorship, rather like things are for the bulk of ''Sonichu'' before [[Jack Thaddeus|CWCVille was revealed to be under martial law]].

====All the protagonists are worthless====
With all his superpowers, Rob punches out all of two Jackals during the whole movie. Every other time he uses his powers is to save himself and his moron friends from another trap the Jackals have sprung on them. At one point, Rob is reduced to [[CWC is Sad|a blubbering mess]], and has to be given a pep talk by the same geriatric rabbit who was watching over him as a child (who is now a New York taxi driver for some fucking reason) before he can finally save the day once and for all. This worthlessness can be seen in both Sonichu AND Chris, particularly during the earlier comics where Chris was always getting saved by [[Sailor Megtune]].

====A villain in a staff====
Or at least, a villain ON a staff. The main antagonist of the movie, Vultor, is portrayed as a man entirely concealed in a gangster suit and hat, with a staff that doubles as a perch for his pet vulture. It's later revealed that the gangster suit and hat were filled with nothing but air, and that the vulture IS Vultor, and has somehow been controlling the suit in a way that is never addressed by the movie. While [[Count Graduon]] isn't directly controlling [[Mary Lee Walsh]], he certainly calls the shots, [[Women's Rights|despite being less powerful and trapped in a fucking staff]].

====Plot holes and loose ends====
As mentioned, a great many inconsistencies exist within the movie. The whole reason Rob and his band start to travel America is to raise money to rebuild a bar, but all the venues they plan to play at get destroyed, they lose their car, and even their instruments. At the very end of the movie they can't even afford to rent new ones, but this point is never addressed since the fact that Vultor has been defeated automatically means it's a happy ending. Not to mention the aforementioned "chocolate moose" plot. The only excuse that ''The Adventures of The American Rabbit'' has is that it is just a single hour and a half movie made for children (and even then, children deserve far better animated movies than ''this''), whereas Chris will either forget about plot points in ''Sonichu'' until he's reminded in the [[Mailbag]], or have the story in his head all along and expect everyone else to magically understand it, and get angry when they inevitably don't.

==See also==
*''[[Bugs Bunny]]''
*[[Sonichu and Rosechu's Children|Robbie Sonee]], possibly named after the film's incompetent "hero".
*[[Robee Sonee and the Tomgirls]], Robbie's [[Tomgirl]] years.

==External links==
*[[Wikipedia:The_Adventures_of_the_American_Rabbit|Wikipedia article]]
*[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166948/ IMDb page]
*[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheAdventuresOfTheAmericanRabbit TV Tropes page of the movie.]

{{DEFAULTSORT:Adventures of The American Rabbit}}

[[Category:Things Chris likes]]

The Adventures of The American Rabbit

2019-04-20T16:11:12Z

Thnxbb: These links don't seem necessary

{{DeadLinks}}
{{quote|Well, after seeing this all the way through I can certainly understand how [[Christian Weston Chandler|a kid who loved this film in the late 80's]] would grow up to make a [[Sonichu (comic)|webcomic]] featuring a [[Sonichu (character)|cross between pikachu and sonic]] that goes nowhere.|[[YouTube]] commenter satinsguard, upon watching this film.}}

[[Image:Amerrabb.jpg|thumb|The American Rabbit]]

'''''The Adventures of The American Rabbit''''' is an insipid [[1980s#1986|1986]] animated film directed by [[Wikipedia:Fred Wolf (animator)|Fred Wolf]] about [[Bob Chandler|Robert]] [[Robbie Sonee|Rabbit]], a bunny who is transformed into a superhero to defend his friends, family and land from pollution and the Mafia, all while cavorting around in the most [[Slow-in-the-minds|retarded]] "costume" in superhero history: a rabbit painted in the stars and stripes and wearing roller skates (even though he can fly).

The American Rabbit originated as a poster character created by Stewart Moskowitz. Since some of Moskowitz's creations were used as mascots in Japan, [[Anime|anime]] [[Transformers|power]][[Dragon Ball Z|house]] [[Wikipedia:Toei Animation|Toei]] [[Sailor Moon|Anim]][[Chrs-Chan Pure Pulse-Jolt Lance|ation]] co-produced the film with Wolf. ''The Adventures of The American Rabbit'' bombed at the box office (gaining a mere ''$291,126'' in its opening weekend) and quickly fell into obscurity. It was the last theatrical film made by Fred Wolf, so it was a miracle that the next year, [[Wikipedia:Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1987 TV series)|two]] [[Wikipedia:DuckTales|projects]] [http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/2007/01/brief-history-of-disney-tva.html he helped produce] were major successes. Nonetheless, it set the standards for young [[Christopher's name change|Christopher]]'s perception of many things, including himself, [[America]], [[Chris and writing|storytelling]], [[Chris and race|race]] (something that will become quickly apparent to any viewer of the film in question), honesty and respect for oneself and others (which, as in the movie, are given much talk for no reason whatsoever). His claims for being truthful, honest, and decent are almost certainly informed by the movie's shallow glossing over of the issues in an anvilicious fashion. Even the "famous" cover for [[Sonichu 0|''Sonichu'' #0]] is plagiarized partially, in an eerie subconscious fashion, from a scene early in the film where the titular rabbit goes out from his home village, encouraged by his father.

Robert Rabbit is, next to [[Sonic the Hedgehog]], one of Chris's biggest role models in life. In Chris's [[Wikipedia]] entry, he stated "they REALLY SHOULD HAVE MADE A [[Chris and television|TV SERIES]] of him." Along with Filmation's ''[[Ghostbusters]]'', ''American Rabbit'' is another obscure cartoon likely culled from videotape bargain bins that had an inexplicably large impact on Chris's childhood.

==Influence==
''The Adventures of The American Rabbit'' seems to have had a tremendous influence on Chris's narrative style; the film has numerous plot holes, a bland Aesop-style moral tacked onto it, moments that make you go "Wait, ''what''?" (e.g. when some weasels somehow take over the world by kidnapping a couple of moose who make chocolate for a living), and the use of anthropomorphic animals as heroes. In other words, key ingredients of a ''Sonichu'' comic.

What's truly startling, however, is how much of it seems to have influenced Chris ''outside'' the ''Sonichu'' comics.

A character in the movie has a speech at the rally against the evil gang in the movie that starts out verbatim the same way that [[CWC's Second Message]] does, with the Panda character leading off by saying that "[they] all should know [him] by now." Much like the protagonist of the movie (and a lot of bad children's media) Chris regards his own actions as morally good no matter whether they actually are or not, and inversely the actions of his antagonists as bad simply because they aggrieve him. This very simple mentality doesn't seem to be directly tied to this movie until you look closer at it: The Jackals can get away with tormenting and destroying as they see fit, just like [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|several]] [[CWCki|things]] [[Kiwi Farms|that]] [[Liquid Chris|Chris]] [[4chan|has]] [[Get-Tar Region|compared]] [[Mary Lee Walsh|the]] [[Mal-Wart|same]] [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens|way]]. If you look closer, constant analogies between this horrible movie and Chris's almost-equally-horrible life become woefully apparent.

This includes Chris's tendency to play into conspiracy theories. In ''American Rabbit'', all problems stem from the same small group of antagonists, in much the same way that Chris views all those who [[Kick the Autistic]] [[Chris and reality|as part of a conspiracy to ruin his life]]. In many ways, ''The Adventures of The American Rabbit'' thus provides one of the most compelling and disturbing looks into [[Chris and psychology|Chris's worldview]] outside his own body of work. Such was the import the young Chris assigned this testament to mediocrity that it became the centerpiece of not only how he [[Chris and writing|writes]] and even influenced how he [[Chris and English|talks]], but formed a big part of how Chris views the world itself.

==Possible influences on the ''Sonichu'' comic==
====Anchuent Powers/Legacy====
In the story, Rob Rabbit is visited at birth by a wizened old rabbit, who keeps tabs on him throughout his life until his latent powers are revealed when he saves his family. He then appears in a wizard's robe (for some reason; he isn't a wizard) and tells Robert that he has inherited the Legacy of the American Rabbit. This is very similar to Chris's [[Anchuent Prophecy]], where Chris is given superpowers for no reason other than being the author's literal Mary Sue.

====Shallow love interests====
As soon as Rob meets the [[Rosechu|pink]] Bunny O'Hare, it becomes very obvious that the two are attracted to each other. Granted, unlike the ''Sonichu'' comic, ''American Rabbit'' actually remembers that it's [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack|supposed to be for kids]] so there's never anything more than a peck on the cheek. Regardless, this could have easily set the standard for Chris's idea of love at first sight - Sonichu and Rosechu were in love less than five pages after they met. The movie only features ONE female character - the aforementioned - who does absolutely nothing whatsoever to help fight evil, helping to set the standard for Chris's views on women.

====Worthless side characters that all look alike====
To be fair, he could have just as easily gotten this from ''Sonic the Hedgehog'' or other media, but it's certainly present in ''American Rabbit''. The band Rob travels with is called the White Brothers Band, a group composed of five white rabbits who look and sound exactly alike. Even the [[Chaotic Combo]] receive (marginally) more development than this.

====Worthless side characters in general====
Notionally, besides attempting to make money to rebuild a bar, the characters traveling with Rob believe that they have a "duty to fight against evil," but out of all of them (including Rob) only Ping Pong the gorilla actually does anything effective to thwart the antagonists. This is mirrored in ''Sonichu'', where often the entire cast will struggle to defeat an enemy (or in the case of the [[Women's Rights|women]], stand around and watch) because Chris wants his [[Darkbind Sonichu|flavour of the month]] to be the focus of the action.

====Worthless [[Jerkop|law enforcement]]====
Rob's world has ''no meaningful law enforcement'' and the Jackals are free to terrorize, destroy, and threaten the global economy as they see fit (even though, as addressed, the means through which they do so make absolutely no sense). The Jackals' ability to get away with what they do in the cartoon indicates that, American Rabbit aside, there is no organized police or military force of ''any kind''. This is analogous to the dystopian [[CWCville]], where [[Chris-Chan Sonichu]] and his [[Electric Hedgehog Pokemon]] are the only thing standing between the Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens and the terrified citizenry of the ailing dictatorship, rather like things are for the bulk of ''Sonichu'' before [[Jack Thaddeus|CWCVille was revealed to be under martial law]].

====All the protagonists are worthless====
With all his superpowers, Rob punches out all of two Jackals during the whole movie. Every other time he uses his powers is to save himself and his moron friends from another trap the Jackals have sprung on them. At one point, Rob is reduced to [[CWC is Sad|a blubbering mess]], and has to be given a pep talk by the same geriatric rabbit who was watching over him as a child (who is now a New York taxi driver for some fucking reason) before he can finally save the day once and for all. This worthlessness can be seen in both Sonichu AND Chris, particularly during the earlier comics where Chris was always getting saved by [[Sailor Megtune]].

====A villain in a staff====
Or at least, a villain ON a staff. The main antagonist of the movie, Vultor, is portrayed as a man entirely concealed in a gangster suit and hat, with a staff that doubles as a perch for his pet vulture. It's later revealed that the gangster suit and hat were filled with nothing but air, and that the vulture IS Vultor, and has somehow been controlling the suit in a way that is never addressed by the movie. While [[Count Graduon]] isn't directly controlling [[Mary Lee Walsh]], he certainly calls the shots, [[Women's Rights|despite being less powerful and trapped in a fucking staff]].

====Plot holes and loose ends====
As mentioned, a great many inconsistencies exist within the movie. The whole reason Rob and his band start to travel America is to raise money to rebuild a bar, but all the venues they plan to play at get destroyed, they lose their car, and even their instruments. At the very end of the movie they can't even afford to rent new ones, but this point is never addressed since the fact that Vultor has been defeated automatically means it's a happy ending. Not to mention the aforementioned "chocolate moose" plot. The only excuse that ''The Adventures of The American Rabbit'' has is that it is just a single hour and a half movie made for children (and even then, children deserve far better animated movies than ''this''), whereas Chris will either forget about plot points in ''Sonichu'' until he's reminded in the [[Mailbag]], or have the story in his head all along and expect everyone else to magically understand it, and get angry when they inevitably don't.

==See also==
*''[[Bugs Bunny]]''
*[[Sonichu and Rosechu's Children|Robbie Sonee]], possibly named after the film's incompetent "hero".
*[[Robee Sonee and the Tomgirls]], Robbie's [[Tomgirl]] years.

==External links==
*[[Wikipedia:The_Adventures_of_the_American_Rabbit|Wikipedia article]]
*[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166948/ IMDb page]
*[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheAdventuresOfTheAmericanRabbit TV Tropes page of the movie.]

{{DEFAULTSORT:Adventures of The American Rabbit}}

[[Category:Things Chris likes]]

Cole Smithey

2019-04-20T05:00:13Z

Thnxbb: /* Relationship with Barbara and Bob */

{{Articleofthenow}}

{{quote|Let me know when that fuck [[Bob Chandler|Bob]] finally drops.|Cole<ref>[[:Image:Cole 07-07-24-3.PNG|24 July 2007 email #3]]</ref>}}
{{quote|I do not regret giving birth to Cole.|[[Barbara Chandler]]<ref>[[:Image:Cole_07-03-06-1.PNG|6 March 2007 email, page 1]]</ref>}}

{{infobox
| title = Cole Smithey
| image = [[File:Coles.jpg|250px|center]]
|header1 = Information
|label1 = Name
|data1 = Joseph Cole Smithey
|label2 = Also known as
|data2 = The Smartest Film Critic in the World Joe Cool<ref>[[Mumble 1]]</ref> Coleslaw
|label3 = Date of Birth
|data3 = [[Pre-1980#1960s|24 July 1963]] (age {{Age|1963|7|24}})
|label5 = Gender
|data5 = Male
|label6 = Nationality
|data6 = [[United States|American]]
|label7 = [[Chris and race|Race]]
|data7 = White
|label8 = Spouse
|data8 = Katherine (2013–present)
|label11 = Father
|data11 = [[Ran Coleman Yeatts]] (alleged biological father) [[Jack Dale Smithey]] (biological father, as claimed by Barb) [[Jerry Harmon]] (stepfather) [[Bob Chandler|Robert Chandler]] (stepfather)
|label12 = Mother
|data12 = [[Barbara Chandler]]
|label13 = Siblings
|data13 = [[Christian Weston Chandler]]
|label14 = Occupations
|data14 = Film critic Musician
}}

'''Joseph Cole Smithey''' (born 24 July 1963)<ref>''[[:Image:046-ColeCDIn.jpg|A CD For Cole Smithey!]]''</ref> is [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]]'s half-brother, [[Barbara Chandler|Barbara]]'s first son, and lone escapee of the [[14 Branchland Court|Casa de Chandler]]. Despite sharing chromosomes with Chris and being raised by the same horrible mother, Cole leads a relatively normal life. [[Cole Smithey E-mails|Cole's emails to Chris]] revealed a lot of information about the Chandler family.

==Life==

===Childhood===
Cole grew up in Richmond, Virginia, near Virginia Commonwealth University and West Avenue.<ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript#Retired life (0:16:59–0:24:22)]]</ref> As a child, Cole claims to have been physically and mentally abused by Barbara and his "stepfather" [[Jerry Harmon]] with punishments such as ass beatings, cold showers, and "bizarre scenarios".<ref name="email">[[:Image:Cole_07-03-06-2.PNG|6 March 2007 email, page 2]]</ref> Barb insisted that Cole's biological father was [[Jack Dale Smithey]], to whom she claimed she was married, but records show she wasn't.<ref name="email" /> Cole believes his biological father to be [[Ran Coleman Yeatts]], who was introduced as a friend of the family and visited when Cole was a child.

Barb married Ran on 17 June 1961. They were legally separated on April 28, 1962.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/interesting-info-about-chriss-family-particularly-their-parents.27521/page-5#post-2009970</ref> She formally divorced him on 15 May 1963. Cole was born two months later.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/interesting-info-about-chriss-family-particularly-their-parents.27521/</ref>

<center><gallery>
File:1961 6 17 - Barb and Ran marriage license.jpeg|Barb and Ran's marriage license.
File:1963 5 15 - Barb, Ran divorce.jpeg|The divorce.
Image:RanColemanYeatts-WakeForestHowler1961.png|Cole's [[TRUE and HONEST]] biological father, Ran Coleman Yeatts, from the 1961 Wake Forest yearbook. Notice the physical similarity.
File:Cole Smithey's family tree.png|Cole's family tree
</gallery></center>

In his article [[Saturday Night Special]], Cole recounts his coming to age. This includes a particular event where Barbara fires a loaded gun at a steel door to ward off a burglar, the resulting ricochet of which almost striking young Cole in the head. These events have obviously had a lasting impression on him. It is also suggested that collecting comics was his hobby and was a big fan of Kiss.

===Move to California===
Cole left home for California, attended San Diego State University from 1981–84, and earned degrees in Dramatic Art and Music. He also attended Hartnell College and San Francisco City College and took similar classes.<ref>http://www.linkedin.com/pub/cole-smithey/a/125/9aa</ref> While at college, he became the drummer for a Poway, California punk rock band called "The Rockin’ Dogs." The band lasted from 1981–85.<ref>[http://www.sandiegoreader.com/bands/rockin-dogs/ The Rockin' Dogs | San Diego Reader]</ref> By 1994, still in San Francisco, Cole was doing shows as "Cole Blooded," and had apparently shifted to the guitar.

===Present===
{{quote|As the story goes, human boy Andy (voiced by John Morris) is off to [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|college]], and must finally put away [[Toys|childish things]] — something most boys do before junior high. [[Autism|Talk about arrested development]] — [[Attraction Sign|this kid isn't getting any dates]].|Cole in his infamous ''Toy Story 3'' review, quite clearly seeing Chris in Andy.<ref>[http://www.colesmithey.com/capsules/2010/06/toy-story-3.html Toy Story 3 - ColeSmithey.com]</ref>}}
Cole currently lives in Manhattan and is a film critic who is featured on Rotten Tomatoes.<ref>http://www.rottentomatoes.com/critic/cole-smithey/</ref> He was mentioned once in ''Time'' magazine for being one of the few critics to give a negative review to ''Toy Story 3'', resulting in many Pixar fans crying out in disgust that a movie franchise that looked to be the only one with purely 100% ratings on RT was ruined by him and Armond White.<ref>http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/06/19/can-147-critics-be-wrong-meet-the-two-pundits-who-trashed-toy-story-3/</ref> (Several years later, in an interview with Arthur Spatchcock, Chris stated that he disagreed with his brother's review even though he hadn't seen the film.)

Cole occasionally hosts [[eBay]] auctions for the winning bidder to spend a night with him drinking craft beer at his wife's bar and talking about film, proving that, despite one half-brother being a wannabe pretentious hipster douchebag and the other being a retarded manchild, they both share the same [[Chris and his Ego|bloated ego]].<ref>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Drink-Craft-Beer-in-NYC-with-Film-Critic-Cole-Smithey-/291052352033?hash=item43c4127221</ref>

Billing himself as "The Smartest Film Critic in the World" (a title that the late, esteemed film critic [[Wikipedia:Roger Ebert|Roger Ebert]] once mocked<ref>http://www.colesmithey.com/filmblog/2009/04/my-dialogue-with-roger.html</ref>), Cole regularly posts his reviews to YouTube, but his videos have hilariously low view counts, rarely more than a few hundred per video and sometimes not even more than a few ''dozen'', even on reviews of well-known films. Whatever the reason, this means that, ironically, the various videos Chris posted to YouTube over the years have been literally many thousands of times more popular than those of his theoretically more successful brother. It probably doesn't help matters that Cole Smithey's videos have rather low production values, and negative reviews of well-received films (like '''Toy Story 3'' and ''Lady Bird'', which we will get to). On a sidenote, he also considers ''Freddy Got Fingered'' (a film often considered to be either so-bad-it's-good or one of the worst of all time) [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JUuAhFVlk4 to be "Classic Cinema"].

{{Squote|''Wild Strawberries'' is a thematically abundant film that fluidly condenses a lifetime's worth of experience into succinct cinematic fragments under Ingmar Bergman's complex construction of abstract corollaries.|An example of Cole Smithey's obsession with big words<ref>http://www.colesmithey.com/capsules/2014/07/wild-strawberries.html</ref>|3=}}

By [[March 2007]], Cole was in a relationship with a woman named Katherine (no, not [[Catherine|her]]).<ref name="Email" /> This is most likely the same Katherine he married in [[March 2013]].<ref name="JohnKyleVid">[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aitxArbd0o John Kyle - Three Love Songs at Katherine and Cole's Wedding] (retrieved on 24 February 2014)</ref> Given that Cole mentioned an earlier wedding during his correspondance with Chris, it appears that Katherine is his second wife, unless the "wedding" in 2013 was actually a renewal of vows.<ref name="email" />

According to an article written by his friend, syndicated cartoonist [[Wikipedia:Ted Rall|Ted Rall]], Cole once came close to death from [[Wikipedia:Necrotizing fasciitis|necrotizing fasciitis]] after an ER nurse made a misdiagnosis,<ref>[http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2014/10/06/commentary/world-commentary/emergency-rooms-live-gunshot-wounds/#.VR7L5vnF-So]</ref> and believes that 2016 presidential candidate Bernie Sanders' rise can be attributed to the "failure of propaganda".<ref>[http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2016/01/22/commentary/world-commentary/sanders-rise-fueled-by-the-failure-of-propaganda/#.Vq1dJrIrI8o]</ref>
{{clear}}

Cole has co-hosted a free weekly podcast called LA GRANDE BOUFFE (THE BIG FEAST)<ref>https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/la-grande-bouffe-the-big-feast/id1120760479?mt=2</ref> since 23 April 2016.

In December 2017, Cole repeated his ''Toy Story'' trick by being the first critic to give ''[[Wikipedia:Lady Bird (film)|Lady Bird]]'' a negative review, ruining its perfect 100% Rotten Tomatoes score from 196 previous reviewers. Cole added fuel to the firestorm of criticism he received by admitting to spoiling the film's score on purpose.<ref>[https://thenextweb.com/opinion/2017/12/14/film-critic-spoiled-lady-birds-perfect-rotten-tomatoes-score-basically-admits-hes-troll/]</ref>

==Relationship with Barbara and Bob==
[[File:Bobcomes home copy.jpg|thumb|left|250px|A likely summary for Bob and Cole's relationship.]]
[[Image:0467-CWC18th20.jpg|thumb|Cole smiles alongside [[Barbara]] on Chris's [[My big 18th party (story)|18th birthday]].]]

Cole was not on good terms with [[Bob]] or [[Barbara]]. According to Cole, Bob worked his "bitter influence" on Barbara to separate her from Cole. He has "never met a meaner or more reprehensible Republican cur than Bob Chandler."<ref name="email" /> In multiple emails to Chris, Cole asks to be informed when Bob dies so he can celebrate.<ref name="Email">[[Cole Smithey E-mails]]</ref>

Cole claims Barbara lied about the identity of Cole's biological father. Cole hired a private detective to find evidence contradicting her claims. It turns out Barbara was never married to [[Jack Dale Smithey]], Cole's alleged father, but rather to [[Ran Coleman Yeatts|Ran ''Cole''man Yeatts]]. In a leaked e-mail sent to [[Jackie]] on 14 May 2011, Chris wrote that Cole "has had mental problems since he hit his head on a bus, and has taken it out heavily on our mother." Some argue the story could be a lie Barbara told Chris to explain Cole's bitterness towards her while masking the issue that actually caused it.

Barbara visited Cole only once in 27 years, whereas Cole had made special effort to visit her several times. Cole's wife's family treats him more like family than his own. Chris has [[Message for John Kyle|complained]] that Cole is ignoring Barb's attempts to get in touch with him. It would seem that Cole has left his mother to her own devices.

===Reaction to Bob's death===
{{Quote|Let me know when that fuck Bob finally drops.|Cole Smithey, [[Cole Smithey E-mails|three years priors]].}}

Shortly after [[Bob_Chandler#Later_life.2C_poor_health_and_death|Bob's death]] on 9 [[September 2010]], a troll on [[/cow/|789chan]] contacted Cole using the phone number he provided in his [[Cole Smithey E-mails|leaked emails]]. In spite of his vitriol towards Bob three years prior, he was apparently actually quite broken up by the news. While Cole was certainly upset at Bob, his reaction to Bob's actual death shows that he ultimately did sympathize with him. While no audio of this call has ever been released, it's existence is confirmed by those who browsed the board at the time.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-cole-smithey-thread.84/post-10170 A Kiwi Farms member's account of the call.]</ref><ref>http://archive.is/kHrWN A TinyChat thread posted days after Bob's death, confirming the call's existence. (Post "#134,774")Anonymous A</ref>

{{clear}}

==Relationship with Chris==
[[File:26 June 2016 Cole Smithey drawing.jpeg||thumb|left|200px|Depicted burning his money instead of giving it to Chris, as drawn by Chris in June 2016. Note in the picture it says "mother and [[Tomgirl|sister]]"]]

Ironically, for much of his life Cole has actually gotten along much better with Chris than with either Bob or Barb, and possibly better than with any of his other direct relatives. Then again, when you don't actually know ''who'' your paternal relatives are, you have to take what you can get.

Cole was not around when Chris was growing up. Being nineteen years older, he was in California making a life for himself. Cole said that Barbara and Bob neglected Chris for years with the [[abusive babysitter]], which suggests that he believes that Chris's muteness in early life was their fault. Chris visited Cole in California when he was about seven years old (1989), according to Barb.<ref>[[Rental House Tour#Time to go]]</ref> This is the only time Chris has been on an airplane,<ref>[[Mumble 1]]</ref> the only time he has been to the West Coast of the United States and one of the few times that he has left [[Virginia]].

For New Year's Day [[1998]] Chris gave Cole a [[Lego]] Band Stand and wished him a "Rocking New Year". However, in [[1999]], on a [[Spanish]] exercise, Chris described "Cole the Beedrill" as ''muy feo'' (very ugly), suggesting relations had strained, probably because of Barb (although he may also have referred to the aspect of the actual Pokémon species).<ref>[[Manchester High Leaks]]</ref> Nevertheless, Cole visited for Chris's [[My big 18th party (story)|18th birthday party]] in [[2000]]. Later in the same year, for Cole's 37th birthday, Chris made him ''A CD For Cole Smithey!''. Naturally, the present had little to do with Cole and everything to do with Chris, even featuring a picture of Chris on the cover.

[[Image:0468-CWC&JCS.jpg|thumb|300px|The half-brothers hold their hands the same way on Chris's [[My big 18th party (story)|18th birthday]].]]

The last time they set eyes on each other was around 2005 at a family Christmas party.<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 27]]</ref>

In [[July 2007]], Chris sent an e-mail asking for Cole's vote in the [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|''PaRappa'' contest]]. In return, Cole asked Chris to find out the truth about his father from Barbara. The timing of this request was probably not a coincidence, as Ran Coleman Yeatts had died a month prior.<ref>[http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ United States Social Security Death Index]</ref> Chris did ask his mother about it, but she maintained her version of the story. Chris was more interested in the ''PaRappa'' contest than his brother's plight, showing just how self-absorbed he truly is (though in Chris's defense, getting involved in an awkward quarrel about parentage is a pretty odd price for a simple upvote on a video). This resulted in Cole becoming even more bitter towards both Chris and Barbara. Suffice to say, Cole did not vote for Chris. To date, these remain the last known communications between the half-brothers as Cole probably distanced himself even further from Chris since only a couple of months later, [[The GAMe PLACe#The GAMe PLACe Photograph|the GAMe PLACe photograph]] was posted onto 4chan, thus beginning Chris's infamy on the internet.

[[File:Cole and Others Miis.png|thumb|right|300px|Cole (far right) as a [[Sonichu Amiibo|Mii]] in one of Chris's [[Super Smash Bros. Videos]], ''Family Needs to appreciate Family'']]

In recent years Chris has made numerous efforts to get in touch with Cole, to no avail. In [[October 2013]] he told his friend [[Rebeckah Bentley E-mails|Rebeckah]], "I have no confirmed or direct contact with him in NY; he doesn't respond to email, twitter feed, Facebook, YouTube, etcetera, either. So, I am most unable to reach him at all."<ref>[[Rebeckah Bentley E-mails#Chris has scabies too]]</ref> On 22 [[June 2013]], Chris attempted to contact Cole via video. He recorded a message directed to John Kyle,<ref name="Message">[[Message for John Kyle]]</ref> Cole's brother-in-law, who sang at his wedding.<ref name="JohnKyleVid" /> Chris expressed anger at Cole for not inviting him and Barb to his wedding. In the same month, Chris tried to [[Twitter#29_June_2013|communicate with Cole]] on [[Twitter]], basically telling him to come back home so he could [[White_knights#Chris_cares_only_for_himself|dump his familial responsibilities on him]] and go on his [[Sweetheart Search]]. He also suggested that Cole had some mental/physical problems of his own ''(even talking down to him at one point)'' right before activating the "Playing for Sympathy" card, lamenting his time in jail.

In [[August 2015]], Chris [[August 2015 Facebook Posts#Please Take Care Of Barb So I Can Go Out And Have Sex With Hot Lesbians|tried yet again]] to reach out to Cole, this time through [[Facebook]], hoping that a flurry of hashtags would work their magic. In [[November 2015]] he returned to [[YouTube]] with a [[Family Needs to appreciate Family|video]] depiction of a battle in which Chris and his allies face off against Cole, [[David Alan Chandler|his other step-brother]], and his [[Carol Suzanne Chandler|step-sister]] in ''Super Smash Bros.''. "OUR Mother is Still Alive; I REALLY want you to make amends and get close, once again, to her before Her time runs out", he wrote in the description. The following day he arranged a [[Sonichu and Rosechu figure collection toy battle!|similar fight]] among his [[Amiibo]] figurines and angrily accused Cole of being possessed by the spirit of [[Count Graduon]]. He posted an image of his Cole Amiibo on Facebook. In this spat of postings Chris attempts to appear concerned about Cole not being around for their mother's twilight years, thinly veiling his [[Monthly Tugboat|real concerns]].

Chris has two explanations for this falling-out with his half-brother, both fed to him by Barb. First, Cole has been entirely misled about Barb's character by the lies of other family members. "She is the opposite of what hate they filled Cole's head with", Chris asserts.<ref>[[Rebeckah Bentley E-mails#Chris has scabies too]]</ref> Second, Cole's "mental problems" caused by his childhood injury mean that he has "taken it out heavily on our mother".<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 26]]</ref> "Lord Knows What Else goes on through his head", Chris has concluded, demonstrating that more than anything else, Cole is almost entirely unknown to Chris. For the most part, the main trait Chris seems to be aware of regarding his half-brother is that he has a career and makes a living. This, in traditional Chris fashion, means opportunity and progressively his attempts to reach out have more and more focused on Cole financially supporting Chris and Barb, returning Chris to the idyllic balance he enjoyed with Bob as the responsible man in the house.

In [[June 2016]], Chris posted a Facebook rant about Cole alleging that he and his wife spend two thousand dollars a month on rent for an apartment in Carnegie Hall.<ref>[[June 2016 Facebook posts]]</ref> Even though renting an apartment near Carnegie Hall can easily cost twice as much, this lack of research didn't stop Chris from depicting his half-brother as having money to "[[Chris and hypocrisy|piss and burn]]" while simultaneously [[Lego|begging]] [[Transformers|him]] [[PlayStation 4|for]] [[Chris and money|money]].

In May 2017, Chris mocked Cole on Twitter, stating [[Hypocrisy|"Oh my gosh, my half brother is suddenly begging for money now"]]. Cole was asking his fans to pledge to him on Patreon,<ref>[https://youtube.com/watch?v=2SqUJhND-mY]</ref> suggesting he has also [[Financhu Crisis|hit rock bottom]]. Chris said he would pledge to him, but he still hasn't apologized or made up with Barb. Ironically, in screencaps obtained from [[Night Star]] by the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]], Chris would accidentally reveal the fact that he indeed tried to pledge to him but Cole had long since blocked him, making it clear once again that he really wanted nothing to do with his old life.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/night-star-delivers-christines-side-of-the-story.33062/</ref>

In December 2017, Chris wanted to drive to New York to confront Cole. He tried to channel his Sonichu power to conjure up Cole's address but was unsuccessful and did not attempt to make the trip.<ref>[[Idea Guy Q&A]]</ref>

===Offering Cole's stuff for sale===
{{see also|Selling Vintage Comic Books (Cole Smithey’s Comic Books)|More of Cole’s Things for Sale}}

Chris began offering pieces of Cole's belongings for sale via [[eBay]] in March 2018.

==Cole in the comics==
Throughout the original run of [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'']], Cole was only referenced in the [[CWCipedia]] profile for [[Rosechu]] as "Professor Cole", assumed to be a version of Cole Smithey, listed as the one who gave [[Kel]] the [[Wikipedia:Pichu|Pichu]] who would become Rosechu. Chris later marketed a custom Amiibo depicting Cole as a [[Jerkop]], seemingly foreshadowing his presence as a villain in the CWCville universe. It is not clear whether the original "Professor Cole" character is [[Retroactive continuity in Sonichu|still canon]].

Cole finally appears in [[Sonichu 12|''Sonichu'' #12]] as, indeed, a Jerkop, brainwashed by [[Count Graduon]]. [[Reldnahc]] uses Cole to "distract [Chris] with family" in order to get the drop on him. He is bizarrely depicted as a gray-haired, mustached old man with a trilby. Comic Chris immediately identifies him as his brother [[Chris and writing|despite Cole never appearing in the comic before]], made all the more confusing by the same battle also featuring Chris's imaginary [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|sister]] and [[Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc|evil twin]].

==Gallery==
<center><gallery>
Image:0425-CwcvilleBandStand2.jpg|Chris's gift to Cole in [[1998]]
Image:045-ColeCD.jpg|''A CD For Cole Smithey!''
Image:046-ColeCDIn.jpg|As if Barbara had any involvement with the CD.
Image:Colesmithyrockingdogs.jpg|Cole playing drums.
File:ColePostcardB.jpg|Postcard Cole sent to Barbara in 1994.
File:ColePostcardA.jpg
File:Cole Amiibo.jpg|Cole as a [[Jerkop]].
File:26 June 2016 Cole Smithey drawing.jpeg
</gallery></center>

==Sources==
<references />

==External links==
* [http://www.colesmithey.com ColeSmithey.com]
* [http://www.rottentomatoes.com/author/author-3041/ Cole at Rotten Tomatoes]
* [http://www.youtube.com/user/colesmithey/ Cole's YouTube channel]
*[https://www.linkedin.com/pub/cole-smithey/a/125/9aa LinkedIn page]
{{Not_Jerks}}
{{People}}
{{DEFAULTSORT:Smithey, Cole}}
[[Category:Family Members]]

Rental House Tour

2019-04-19T19:26:21Z

Thnxbb:

The '''Rental House Tour''' is the last in the series of events of 31 [[August 2014]], which had begun with the [[Catie Date Conversation Transcript]] and had continued with the [[IRL Tour of 14 Branchland Court]]. That afternoon, Chris, [[Catherine]], and her cousin Al stopped by the [[Rental House]] to meet [[Barb]] and [[Clover and Snoopy|the beagles]]. Note that every time Catherine sneezes, it's an attempt to prevent Chris from putting his arm around her or kissing her.
[[File:Rental House June 2014.jpg|thumb|right|250px|The rental house.]]

==Summary==
* Chris shows them his [[CWC Lego Manchester High School Oct 18 2013|Lego version of Manchester High]] and some little figures of [[Catherine]] and himself.
* They find that Chris has a picture of Catherine on his night stand.
* Chris confirms that all of his [[Playstation 3]] [[Video games|games]] have survived the [[Destruction Of Chris's House|fire]].
* Chris shows off his [[High School]] yearbook and talks about each of his [[gal-pals]].
* Chris talks about his [[Clover and Snoopy|dogs]], who are horribly trained and cared for and who go berserk if they see someone they don't recognise.
* Chris and [[Barb]] talk a little about [[Daniel Weston]].
* Barb tells the story about how [[Cole Smithey|Cole]] almost died of an infection.
* Barb explains how they're British royalty.
* The background music, which appears to consist of orchestral versions of [[Beatles]] songs and other 50s/60s hits, lends the entire exchange an air of classic Hollywood melodrama, as if Katharine Hepburn were about to slap someone or burst into tears at any moment.

==Part One==
===Audio===
{{Infobox/Audiofile
| name = Rental House Tour Audio Part One
| audio = {{#ev:youtube|ssLj-FCmtss}}
| Stardate = 31 [[August 2014]]
| Featuring = [[Chris]], [[Catherine]], Al, [[Barb]], [[Clover and Snoopy]]
| Saga = {{Tomgirl|text}}, {{Catherine|text}}, {{Sonic Boom|text}}
| previous = [[IRL Tour of 14 Branchland Court|14BC Tour Video]]
| next = Rental House Tour Audio Part One
}}
===Transcript===
====Introductions====

'''Al''': Hey Chris!

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Al''': Is it alright if I park right there?

'''Chris''': That’s fine.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Chris''': You’re OK. Don’t worry about it.

'''Al''': Damn, this is a…

'''Catherine''': [?]

'''Al''': Yeah, this is a nice place.

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Catherine''': It’s a nice little neighborhood.

'''Chris''': It’s two stories but only about two-thirds of the width.

'''Al''': Yeah. So you’ve been livin’ here since when?

'''Chris''': Eh, since last February.

'''Al''': Oh.

'''Chris''': [entering house] Hello!

'''Al''': Howdy.

'''Chris''': [[Clover and Snoopy|Hi Snoopy! Hi Clover!]] Hi mom.

'''Al''': Howdy.

'''Barb''': Hi.

'''Chris''': Um, Barbara Anne, this is, this is…

'''Catherine''': Nice to meet you.

'''Chris''': That’s Catherine and her cousin Al.

'''Al''': Glad to meet ya. I’m Big Al.
[[File:Clover and snoopy.jpg|thumb|200px|right|They're a lot fatter now.]]
'''(one or more of the dogs start baying)'''

'''Catherine''': …meet you…

'''Dog:''' AROOOOOOOO!

'''Chris''': Oh…

'''Dog:''' AROOOOOO!

'''Chris''': Snoopy…

'''Al''': There’s some, yeah they seem a little bit worked up there.

'''Chris''': Yeah, that’s Snoopy, and that’s Clover.

'''Catherine''': …house.

'''Al''': Well howdy Snoopy, howdy Clover.

'''Barb''': They’re part fox.

'''Chris''': Huh huh!

'''Catherine''': They are cute.

'''Al''': Oh, no kiddin’.

'''Catherine''' I love dogs, so.

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Dog:''' Bark!

'''Catherine''': Alright, we’ll let you…

'''Al''': Yeah, we’ll let you get to…

'''Dog:''' AROOOOO! AROOOOOO! AROOOOOO!

'''Chris''': …the door.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Catherine''': Ah, thank you.

'''Chris''': Yeah. Oh, actually and I had also got you a case…

'''Dog:''' AROOOOOO! AROOOOOOO! AROOOOOOO! AROOO!

[chaos]

'''Al''': OK, OK.

'''Chris''': Anyway, [?].

'''Al''': Don’t bite me!

'''Catherine''': Oh, thank you.

'''Chris''': Yeah, and I…

'''Dog:''' AROOOOOO!

[?]

'''Al''': They seem pretty loud.

'''Chris''': Yeah, they get loud, when there’s new people.

====Touring Chris's playroom====

'''Al''': Aw, cool! Dude, is this your room?

'''Chris''': Yeah, that’s my work room.

'''Al''': Can I go in for a moment?

'''Chris''': Yeah. Sure.

'''Dog:''' AROOOOO!

'''Chris''': Hey now, doggies, calm down! That’s good. [To Al]: I had to pretty much prepare for Catherine’s staying over for a while longer at least. I had a second, I had, I made room for a second ''chair''.

'''Al''': So, so what is all this then?

'''Chris''': Yeah, pretty much some random things, but that’s a high school I built based on the one from Heartlake High. I dedicated building that to [[Manchester High School|Manchester High]]. Took me about a ''month'' to build that.
[[File:Rebuilths3.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's Lego high school as it appeared in the rental house.]]
'''Dog:''' AROOOOO!

'''Al''': Really.

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Al''': Well see Chris, you have, you spent a month to build that?

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Al''': Well see, that’s dedication right there.

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Al''': With your [[Sonichu (comic)|comics]] and stuff, you can do the same thing, if you can be dedicated. Like if you can work on that for a month…

'''Chris''': Yeah...

'''Al''': …you can spend a month working on a comic book.

'''Chris''': Yeah. [Wants to change the subject] Anyway, yeah, I built this house on multiple houses. And here’s our minifigs, me and Catherine.

'''Al''': Awww.

'''Chris''': Yeah, I pain-, I painted a kilt on her.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Chris''': Yeah, it’s a [[Lego]] head on a…

'''Al''': Oh, so that’s like the little kilt right there then?

'''Chris''': Uh, it’s like a…

'''Al''': Is that a [?] or…?

'''Chris''': That’s denim skirt.

'''Al''': Oh. Oh.

'''Chris''': Yeah but, I used paper to make that.

'''Al''': Neat, yeah, and that’s little Catie. What’s that around her neck, is that like a little medallion, or…?

'''Chris''': Yeah. [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]] [[medallion]]. Uh, on my [[Sweetheart|girlfriend]], I eventually would give them.

'''Al''': Oh. Cool.

'''Chris''': And custom minifigures of the hedgehogs.

'''Al''': So did you make those yourself then?

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Al''': So you seem to have an interest in arts and crafts, then.

'''Chris''': Yes.

'''Al''': Neat. So what’s…

[Catherine enters]

'''Chris''': [cloying voice] Yeah that’s you.

'''Catherine''': Is that me? Oh that’s even tinier than I thought. Oh that’s so cute.

'''Chris''': And here, and here I am.

'''Catherine''': Oh, they’re cute. [giggles] That’s so cute. There you go.

'''Al''': [Feigning awe] Dude.

'''Catherine''': Wow, you’ve got a lot of [[Lego]]. I didn’t realize you had that much.

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Al''': So, what, what’s in this case right here, is this…?

'''Chris''': Oh that’s my medicine case. It’s got my [[Chris and health|prescription medicine]]…

'''Al''': Oh.

'''Catherine''': [?]

'''Al''': Yeah, yeah.

'''Chris''': Yeah, too bad you’re not staying, we could have watched [[Wikipedia:Gigi (1958 film)|Gigi]].

'''Catherine''': Yeah I’m sorry, we’ve got to get out of here.

====Next stop: the bedroom====

'''Chris''': Yeah. Uh, at least let me show you the uh, my bedroom. It is right there.

'''Catherine''': So, you go right ahead.

'''Al''': So this is sort of like your office, then?

'''Chris''': Yeah, kind of. Yeah. Here’s where I sleep.

'''Catherine''': Oh it’s a nice room. Wow, it’s a Skylanders.

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Catherine''': There’s a lot, how many…? [counting?]

'''Al''': Catie, can I take a look for a mom-?

'''Catherine''': [joking] No, you can’t.

[Al and Catherine goof around]

[Elevator music starts up]

'''Catherine''': Wow.

'''Al''': Oh you have a nice set up in here, man.

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Al''': So is this your TV then?

'''Chris''': Uh, that’s, yeah, that’s a 3D TV, from Sony [[Playstation]].

'''Al''': Dude, you got a lot of PS3 [[Video games|games]]!

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Al''': Did these survive [[Destruction Of Chris's House|the fire]], or…?

'''Chris''': Yes, they all did. Every last one.

'''Catherine''': Oh that’s fortunate.

'''Al''': Oh that’s good, yeah.

'''Chris''': Yeah. Oh…

'''Al''': So do you have…?

'''Chris''': …do you happen to have an interest in video discs as well?

'''Al''': Dude, those things are so old - do you collect those?

'''Chris''': Uh…

'''Al''': Have you had those ever since…?

'''Chris''': We had these, we had these a lo-, pretty much all my life.

'''Al''': Oh, Catie, take a look at the night stand there!

'''Chris''': Yeah, this is pretty much our entire collection of…

'''Catherine''': [Slightly horrified] Oh, I didn’t realize you kept my picture on your night stand. Oh wait, I think you did tell me that.

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Catherine''': You kept my picture on your night stand. That’s so cute...

'''Al''': So what game system do you got, is that, uh, Sega…?

'''Chris''': Sega Dreamcast.

'''Catherine''': Oh I remember that…

'''Al''': And who’s that?

'''Chris''': That’s [[Robert Chandler|my father]].

'''Al''': Oh.

'''Chris''': That’s Mr. C right there.

'''Al''': So you keep that there too?

'''Chris''': That’s Catherine and Mr. C.

'''Catherine''': Do you think he would approve of me?

'''Chris''': How do you feel?

'''Catherine''': I like to think so.

'''Chris''': And that, then I think he does.

'''Catherine''': He see-, he seems a little bit… interested in your best [unintelligible]

====High school reminisces====

[music swells]

'''Chris''': Yeah. Yeah. Yeah that’s uh, I ended up with two copies of the senior yearbook.

'''Al''': Why two copies?

'''Chris''': Uh, uh, I think it’s because, uh, well, wound up, separate purchases, I think.

'''Al''': Oh. So somebody like, filled out a form wrong or something?

'''Chris''': Yeah, I think so.

'''Al''': So who were your [[gal-pals]] then, that you were talking about in high school? Were they, are they in here, or…?

'''Chris''': Yeah, they’re in, they’re in there, mostly, uh…

'''Al''': Now did this get water damaged during the fire?

'''Chris''': Um…

'''Catherine''': [?] the fire.

'''Al''': It seems like the pages are a little bit wrinkled, or…?

'''Chris''': Yeah, yeah, I think that one did get some water damage.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Chris''': You might have better luck with this copy which is only smoke-damaged.

'''Al''': Yeah. Did they, so the insurance company, are they compensating you for all this damage? Cuz like…

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Al''': …when stuff like this gets damaged, it’s priceless, you know? I mean…

'''Catherine''': Yeah.

'''Chris''': Yeah. Oh yeah, I bookmarked the beginning of the ''senior'' section there.

'''Al''': Aw, did they, did they sign your yearbook at all?

'''Chris''': Um…Oh I might not have thought about it.

'''Al''': Yeah, there’s some people…

'''Chris''': Yeah plus we didn’t, I don’t think we got these yearbooks till ''after'' [[graduation]].

'''Catherine''': Oh that’s unusual.

'''Al''': Oh that sucks.

'''Catherine''': So where are you in here?

'''Al''': Which one is your gal-pal then?

'''Chris''': Um, there’s a number of them, uh let’s see, [flipping through yearbook]…There I am.
[[File:ChrisChanY2K.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's yearbook photo.]]
'''Catherine''': Oh, there we go.

'''Al''': Oh!

'''Catherine''': In a little tuxedo.

'''Al''': Yeah see, I like it man, you look very…

'''Catherine''': Very smart.

'''Al''': You know, you know what you remind me of there?

'''Chris''': Who?

'''Al''': You should, you should, you know like Frank Sinatra, one of those old singers.

'''Chris''': Oh, [[Chris and music|I like Frank Sinatra]].

'''Al''': That, that would go on stage, and he’d talk, and the smooth voice and he’d talk to the ladies…

'''Chris''': [takes on persona] Good evening ladies and gentlemen!

'''Al''': Yeah, yeah!

'''Chris''': We’ve really got a big show for you tonight!

'''Catherine''': Yeah.

'''Al''': Yeah, like from one of those, uh, old black-and-white movies, you know? But yeah, you look smooth and classy, man.

'''Chris''': Yeah. Oh uh, [[Kellie Andes]], uh, was my high school s-, sweetheart that I fell in big like with…

'''Al''': So, so which one is she?

'''Chris''': [spelling] A…A L E, um, yeah.

'''Al''': This says Kellie Lynn Andes right there.

'''Chris''': Yeah. Yeah.

'''Al''': Oh, that one?

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Catherine''': Can I have a look?

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Catherine''': Oh, she’s very pretty.

'''Al''': Yeah. Well not as pretty as you, right Catie? Right Chris?

'''Chris''': No, she’s…

'''Catherine''': [laughs] Did you just call him Catie?

'''Chris''': [chuckles]

'''Al''': Oh I’m sorry, I’m sorry.

'''Catherine''': I have to sneeze again, sorry.

'''Al''': I’m a little big dyslexic myself. Sometimes I mix up words and stuff.

'''Chris''': Uh, well.

'''Al''': I say something when I mean to say something else. So.

'''Catherine''': [Sneezes] Excuse me.

'''Chris''': [spelling] C B B…

'''Catherine''': Must have caught a cold on the plane.

'''Chris''': Oh I hope not.

'''Catherine''': It happens all the time. Every time you travel.

'''Chris''': [browsing]… Oh shoot, [trails off]. Oh, Sarah Bev-, [[Gal pal#Sarah Anne Bevel|Sarah Bevel]].

'''Al''': Oh that, that one right there.

'''Catherine''': Oh she’s very pretty too.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Catherine''': You have lots of pretty friends, haven’t you?

'''Chris''': [Smugly] Eh, yeah.

'''Al''': Dude, you gotta go back to whatever it was you were doing back then, you got all the girls. Well I mean you have Catie now, so I mean…

'''Chris''': Yeah, I’d rather, I’d rather stick with a winner.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Catherine''': It’s good to be a winner, I think?

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Chris''': Hm, G O… Tiff-, there she is. [[Tiffany Gowen]].

'''Al''': Yeah right there, the blonde at the bottom...

'''Catherine''': She looks a little bit like, em, Cameron Diaz.

'''Al''': Yeah, yeah.

'''Catherine''': I think it’s the hair, but she does look a little bit like Cameron Diaz.

'''Al''': Do you have any [[JERKS|guys]] that you hung out with back in high school, or…?

'''Chris''': Uh,…

'''Catherine''': Or was it mostly girls?

'''Chris''': Not, not, it was mostly girls.

'''Al''': Mostly girls?

'''Chris''': Yeah. I did have, uh, [[Joseph Herring|one]], um, uh, I hung out with in my freshman year when I was vars-, when I was, uh, co-water boy/manager of the [[Manchester High School#Go Lancers!|varsity basketball team]].

'''Al''': So wait, you were manager of the basketball team?

'''Chris''': Yeah, varsity.

'''Al''': That’s pretty cool.

'''Catherine''': Thank you.

'''Al''': Hey, is this the bathroom?

'''Chris''': Oh yeah.

'''Al''': Yeah, you mind if I take a leak real quick?

'''Chris''': Go ahead.

'''Al''': Yeah, hey Catie, I’ll get here and then I’ll go downstairs and join up with you guys, so.

'''Catherine''': Alright.

'''Al''': I’ll be out in just a minute.

==Part Two==
===Audio===

{{Infobox/Audiofile
| name = Rental House Tour Audio Part Two
| audio = {{#ev:youtube|pepLdYwk3Wk}}
| Stardate = 31 [[August 2014]]
| Featuring = [[Chris]], [[Catherine]], Al, [[Barb]], [[Clover and Snoopy]]
| Saga = {{Tomgirl|text}}, {{Catherine|text}}, {{Sonic Boom|text}}
| previous = Rental House Tour Audio Part One
| next =
}}

===Transcript===
====Chatting with Barb====

[toilet flushes]

[sink runs]

[door squeaks open]

[20th Century orchestral music is heard]

'''Al''': Hello.

'''Catherine''': [Oh watch?]

'''Al''': Oh, are they gonna eat me alive now, or…?

'''Chris''': [unintelligible] he wants to buy a bunch of ours.

'''Al''': Yeah, the uh, vinyl records y’all got, I collect them, so.

'''Barb''': You can go through 'em.

'''Al''': Sure.

'''Catherine''': [?] I know you loved your records.

'''Barb''': Right now they’re all in a tractor-trailer.

'''Al''': In a tractor-trailer?

'''Chris''': Not really, no, they’re in a storage unit or downstairs.

'''Barb''': They’re not downstairs.

'''Chris''': Oh, oh.

'''Barb''': I put ‘em on a tractor-trailer.

'''Chris''': Oh, OK, well I guess, when the Rainbow cleaners, some of them got taken to their facility. Well not all of them, there was a bunch of them at the s-, at the unit.

'''Barb''': Oh.

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Barb''': At your storage unit?

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Barb''': Oh, OK.

'''Chris''': [to dog] Oh, hi baby girl. He’s a kisser. [baby voice] He likes to kiss.

'''Catherine''': They’re so cute. I’m sure they’ll get used to me eventually.

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Catherine''': They just don’t know who I am or why I’m in their house!

'''Chris''': Snoopy, Clover, that’s Catherine. Catie. You saw her picture?

'''Catherine''': [giggles] You showed your dogs my picture? That’s so cute.

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Al''': They like the picture or what, or…?

'''Chris''': Uh well, they sniffed it. They smell everything.

'''Catherine''': [?]

'''Chris''': Yeah, they got, we got separate to pee and poo on the paper.

'''Catherine''': Yeah, try not…

'''Chris''': On the black thing.

'''Catherine''': …to stand on it.

'''Al''': Yeah. They what? Oh, yeah, I guess that makes sense then, on the paper…

'''Catherine''': Try not to stand on it or anything.

'''Barb''': It’s, it’s awfully inconvenient to take them outside and have to pick it up.

'''Al''': Yeah. Yeah.

'''Barb''': I’d rather have it inside, to pick it up.

'''Al''': Oh yeah, and then it’s closer so you can clean it up without going as far away.

'''Barb''': I’m 72 years old, I don’t [?]

'''Catherine''': Fair enough.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Catherine''': You’ve worked enough in your life, so…

'''Chris''': Yeah. I told, I told mom about, uh, how you have a lot of interesting stories from your travels in the European Brish - British areas.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Catherine''': Yeah.

'''Chris''': Hey mother, tell her, tell her something about the Weston name. Or some of it.

'''Barb''': 400 years ago, the king declared the name [[Daniel Weston|Weston]], W-E-S-T-O-N, not I-N or E-N, but O-N, to be part of England’s [[Anne Boleyn|royalty]] forever.

'''Catherine''': That’s interesting.

'''Barb''': So Christian…

'''Catherine''': There’s a lot of uh, there’s a lot of names like that in England, and um… Well you go, you go back through the um, the old records and stuff and you see…

'''Barb''': Well my cousin…

'''Catherine''': …lordships, and you see…

'''Barb''': Well my cousin was the one that put together a [?] collection…

'''Catherine''': Wow. That’s a piece of history right there.

'''Al''': It certainly seems, Christian seems like a pretty good son. He was talking about how he helps you out around the house and all, and such.

'''Barb''': Oh my gosh.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Barb''': I couldn’t, I couldn’t survive without him.

'''Catherine''': Yeah.

'''Al''': Yeah. Well I hope he takes care of Catie just as well. So.

'''Chris''': I’m pretty sur-, I’m fairly confident I will. I had practice.

'''Barb''': [cackles] He’s had a lot of practice. His father died three years ago.

[Music actually switches to a sadder tone]

'''Catherine''': I know. We heard. I’m terribly sorry.

'''Al''': Yeah. Sorry. I apologize for your loss. That’s gotta suck. So.

'''Barb''': Yeah. Yeah you, you never get over it.

'''Catherine''': Not really, no.

'''Barb''': My sister and…[?] um, her husband…

'''Chris''': Yes, yeah, [[Minor Family Members#Aunt Harriet and Uncle Tom|Harriet and Tom]].

'''Barb''': …had to have surgery on this area.

'''Catherine''': Oh, that’s terrible. Oh, poor doggie.

'''Barb''': He has a growth that’s blocking the flow of whatever fluids, and as a result, it’s causing constant infection.

'''Catherine''': Oh that’s awful.

'''Al''': Sounds awful.

'''Barb''': So, he’s gonna get operated on at the end of September.

'''Al''': In September?

'''Barb''': I, I wonder if it’s life-threatening, cause this area here…

'''Chris''': They didn’t mention that.

'''Barb''': …there’s a hole in the brain right there.

'''Catherine''': Well that’s…

'''Al''': A hole in the brain?

'''Barb''': There’s a hole that goes right in the brain. My oldest son, um…

'''Chris''': [[Cole]].

'''Barb''': …almost died from a sinus infection, in California…

'''Chris''': I didn’t hear this one.

'''Catherine''': Oh my goodness.

'''Barb''': …shortly after he went out there to college. He - he had a sinus infection.

'''Catherine''': That’s awful.

'''Barb''': And he couldn’t - couldn’t shake it.

'''Catherine''': I’m so sorry.

'''Barb''': He um - so he went to the doctor, and the doctor said "you’re just in time".

'''Catherine''': Well that’s good.

'''Barb''': For a few hours. He wouldn’t’ve made it if he [?]

'''Catherine''': Wow. That was…let’s see…

'''Barb''': That’s when I really learned…

'''Catherine''': …when he first went to college, so he would, he would have been about eighteen, nineteen?

'''Barb''': Yeah, he was about nineteen.

'''Catherine''': I don’t, I have no idea how old he is now, so I don’t know how long ago that would have been.

'''Barb''': He’s, yeah he was born in ’63.

'''Catherine''': OK.

'''Barb''': And Christian was born in ’82.

'''Chris''': Uh, 40, 51.

'''Barb''': ’82. I bought mailbox numbers 63 and 82.

'''Catherine''': Mm hmm.

'''Al''': Oh!

'''Barb''': I had trouble, I had trouble remembering it and I started…

'''Al''': Well that’s a good trick.

'''Catherine''': Well that’s handy.

'''Chris''': Yeah, we like number games as well as word games.

'''Catherine''': Oh that’s lovely.

'''Chris''': Yeah, hey, tell ‘em your anniversary date. Or wedding.

'''Barb''': 6-7-80.

'''Catherine''': 6-7-80, that’s easy to remember.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Barb''': My husband and I got married, we were married 31 years.

'''Catherine''': That’s a long while.

'''Barb''': And um, two months after we were married, he had triple bypasses, and the doctors told me that he would not have lived two more weeks.

'''Catherine''': Wow.

'''Barb''': If he hadn’t had…and if he hadn’t had married me he’d never’ve known.

'''Catherine''': Cause you made him go to the doctor.

'''Barb''': It was very suddenly. Because he was, uh, an engineer at GE and he did hard core negotiating to sell their products.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Barb''': To sell their products. So.

'''Catherine''': [unintelligible]

'''Barb''': It wasn’t easy…

'''Dog:''' AROOOOOO!

'''Chris''': Snoopy, calm down.

'''Catherine''' Alright, fair enough.

'''Chris''': Calm down, little boy, calm down. I think they’re probably easier if uh, if I was sitting down.

'''Al''': Yeah, I don’t know if we have much room here.

'''Chris''': It was…

'''Catherine''': We can’t stay too terribly long.

'''Al''': Yeah we’re gonna head out in a few minutes anyways, so…

====The fire and its consequences====

'''Barb''': The couch belongs to the dogs. They saved us from the fire.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Catherine''': Yeah, Christian said they woke you up.

'''Chris''': Yeah, they woke me up, then I woke her up.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Barb''': I got, I burned both feet, because I didn’t have any shoes on.

'''Al''': You had to walk through the fire then?

'''Barb''': Well I had to extinguish it, try to put it out, and what happened was, uh…

'''Chris''': [Moreover ?]

'''Barb''': Probably. Insulation. In the wall. [?]

'''Al''': The flicks from the insul-, like, they were drop-, pieces of insulation were dropping down?

'''Barb''': Yes.

'''Al''': And they burnt you on the foot?

'''Barb''': I don’t [?], I stepped on them.

'''Chris''': Um, well OK, I didn’t hear that. I thought, I thought the worst damage to your feet was from you had to walk all over that wet grass cause it was raining that morning.

'''Barb''': Well I didn’t know that I had damaged my feet…

'''Chris''': Oh. [stress sigh]

'''Barb''': …until later.

'''Al''': So you saw the fire, you grabbed an extinguisher, you’re lucky you had one on hand.

'''Barb''': He grabbed an extinguisher, pulled the thing out, and handed it to me.

'''Chris''': I remember from training, you know, you pull the pin first.

'''Catherine''': Yeah.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Catherine''': And then you handed it off to your mum.

'''Al''': Sounds like you were both pretty brave to fight the fire like that.

'''Barb''': We didn’t have any choice. I had to hold, I was able to hold it just long enough for him to get his head together, take the dogs and the cat, and uh, we got out.

'''Chris''': Actually our cat [[Chandler Cats#Lucy|Lucy]] came to us. She was upstairs.

'''Barb''': Was she?

'''Chris''': Yeah, you remember, she came downstairs and met us, and then she ran out of [[14 Branchland Court|the house]] with us.

'''Barb''': That’s right, she did.

'''Chris''': Yeah I put the leads on the dogs.

'''Catherine''': Yeah.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Catherine''': You’re all very lucky to have gotten out of that.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Catherine''': I’m so sorry for your loss.

'''Barb''': That’s OK, it hasn’t been totally bad.

'''Al''': Things happen, life happens, you know?

'''Barb''': [?] happen for a reason.

'''Al''': You just get through it, so.

'''Barb''': [?] for a reason.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Barb''': Yeah, we’ve learned a lot. [Laughs] Yeah, we did some hardcore negotiating, with uh, State Farm.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Chris''': Excuse me just a moment.

'''Al''': Uh yeah, sorry. Yep, yep, get through there…

'''Catherine''': …in your way.

'''Al''': Hard core negotiating, what, they didn’t wanna pay out or somethin’, or…?

'''Barb''': They don’t…the adjustor is a woman, and she hates the ground I walk on. She dislikes me terribly, cause I’m too old and too smart. See I’m not the typical 72-year-old woman.

====Barb and Catie talk sewing====

'''Chris''': Yeah I’ll just remember it and I’ll save it.

'''Al''': Um…

'''Catherine''': He uses that for work. Pretty much.

'''Al''': Yeah, that’s mostly a work phone, I wouldn’t want people, but you can contact me through Catie.

'''Chris''': OK.

'''Catherine''': Yeah, yeah, we’re always in touch.

'''Chris''': OK, so you know I should contact him on the [?] inquiry about the records.

'''Catherine''': Uh, you can al- you can always let me know and I’ll pass the message.

'''Barb''': I appreciate you driving her there.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Barb''': That was a good security move.

'''Al''': Well her phone, [Catherine: “Car.”] her car broke down, so there was hardly any choice, I was the only guy who could, so.

'''Catherine''': Yeah, so.

'''Al''': But yeah.

'''Barb''': Well, it was good security [].

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Chris''': Yeah, yeah everything…

'''Al''': Yeah, yeah, I mean, I didn’t, I didn’t know Christian or anything, I hadn’t met you all at all, and they were talkin’ pretty serious, like it seemed, so I thought I would get to know your family as well, cause if these two were gonna get hitched, it’s gonna be one family, so.

'''Barb''': You’re just as beautiful as he said.

'''Catherine''': Oh thank you. You’re very sweet.

'''Al''': Yeah, so.

'''Barb''': Yeah, you are. You are.

'''Catherine''': Thank you.

'''Barb''': I understand you sew a little bit?

'''Catherine''': A little bit, not very much. Um, basically just enough to put, like, a button on my shirt, or, or um, like, stitch up my pants.

'''Barb''': I have a trainload of [felt?].

'''Catherine''': Oh, I’m terribly sorry.

'''Chris''': Well, [drowned out]

'''Al''': Christian said you used to sew, or you sew occasionally…?

'''Barb''': I used to. I’m, I’m going to, after I get settled back in the house.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Barb''': I’m gonna start designing and sewing.

'''Catherine''': Mm hmm.

'''Chris''': Yeah. I told, I told her about the A-skirts you put together.

'''Catherine''': Oh yeah, you can make an A-line skirt out of an old pair of jeans. You just cut um, you, you rip the side, the seams in the middle, and then you use the leg to cut it off about here, and you use the legs to make the panels.

[?]

'''Catherine''': It’s very easy. It’s just you need a sewing machine to do it.

'''Barb''': Yeah.

'''Catherine''': But you could sew it by hand, but it takes ages.

'''Chris''': Hm. [Bizarrely inflected] She can sew more than a '''button'''.

'''Al''': Yeah. Alright.

'''Catherine''': Well, I mean…

'''Barb''': I taught my oldest son to sew, when he was growing up.

'''Catherine''': My roommate knits. My roommate is from Texas and he knits.

'''Barb''': Every, every boy needs to know how to sew and how to cook.

'''Catherine''': Exactly. Cause you’re not gonna have a woman all the time.

'''Barb''': [?] cook for kids, so…

'''Catherine''': Exactly.

'''Al''': Yeah.

[?]

'''Catherine''': Mm hmm.

====Barb's family heritage====

'''Barb''': In my family, I was the, I was number one as far as, there were eight children, five girls, and uh, um…

'''Al''': You were the eldest? You had to take care of the rest?

'''Barb''': I was five, number five of eight.

'''Al''': Ah.

'''Catherine''': Oh, so you were almost in the middle.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Barb''': Yeah, I had a, I had a good spot.

'''Catherine''': Mm hmm.

'''Barb''': I had to fight both ways.

'''Catherine''': [Laughs]

'''Barb''': I had to change diapers both ways. [Laughs]

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Barb''': Well I had two sisters and a brother younger than me. I have s- one [[Minor Family Members#Aunt Harriet and Uncle Tom|sister]] and [[Minor Family Members#Uncle Raymond|brother]] still with us, and it’s nice. I just talked to her last night.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Chris''': Well I think I uh, told Catie about how Barbara Anne wanted to be an English teacher...? Enjoyed some English literature I think?

'''Barb''': Yeah.

'''Catherine''': Yeah.

'''Barb''': Yeah, I enjoy literature.

'''Chris''': Yeah. She likes a lot of Shakespe'''ah'''.

'''Catherine''': Yeah, I do like Shakespeare.

'''Chris''': She also enjoys The Tudors, uh, HBO program through Netflix, all about King Henry VIII.

'''Barb''': Oh, Henry VIII. [[Anne Boleyn]], his wife…

'''Catherine''': One of, yeah, one of six.

'''Barb''': Well, she couldn’t produce a boy.

'''Catherine''': Mm hmm.

'''Barb''': So he killed her.

'''Catherine''': Yeah.

'''Barb''': But he drummed up all these excuses that the maids helped him to put together.

'''Catherine''': Yeah. Well he was the king, he could say whatever he wanted about anybody, and they wouldn’t dare say no, it’s not right. So.

'''Barb''': Yeah. He was just a murderer.

'''Catherine''': Mm. A little bit.

'''Barb''': The first, the first Queen Elizabeth was her daughter.

'''Catherine''': Mm hmm.

'''Barb''': Yeah.

'''Catherine''': That was uh, the last of the Tudors.

'''Barb''': We’re blood kin to them. I suppose we got blood kin to every Wes-, blood Weston in the world.

'''Catherine''': That would be an interesting thing to research, like go through old records and things like that, and actually draw a line and say, this is exactly where that went.

'''Chris''': I still don’t know the missing link between Richard Weston and Mary Boleyn.

'''Catherine''': Well Weston’s not exactly an uncommon name in Britain. I mean it’s not super-common, it’s not like Smith or anything, but there are a lot of people with that name.

'''Barb''': I suppose there are. There are.

'''Chris''': Oh, and I uh…

'''Barb''': [You’ve?] done a lot of important things in [?]

'''Catherine''': [?] yeah, done a lot of things and made a lot of children.

'''Chris''': Oh yeah, in our thinking ahead, I did mention to her that uh, I promised you [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|our first daughter]] would have the middle name Weston.

'''Barb''': Yeah.

'''Chris''': So to continue that tradition. And royalty.

'''Barb''': [?]

'''Catherine''': It does.

'''Barb''': So, you’re part Scottish?

'''Catherine''': Yeah, on my mother’s side. My mom’s Scottish and my dad’s Italian.

'''Barb''': [?] combination.

'''Catherine''': It’s an interesting one.

'''Barb''': Yeah, it is.

====Time to go====

'''Dog:''' AROOOOOOO.

'''Chris''': Ah, Snoopy, calm down.

'''Barb''': Calm down. [Laughs]

'''Chris''': Yeah. They’re visiting right now, but I’m thinking she’ll be good more often.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Chris''': And y’all can get to know her, and I, they let me sit between them and hug them.

'''Catherine''': Oh that’s nice.

'''Chris''': They’re so sweet like, they’re so sweet like that, in other ways.

'''Barb''': Yeah, they’re good dogs, they really are.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Barb''': They’re very, very protective.

'''Catherine''': Beagles usually are. They’re very, they like their families. They like to be very protective of their... Their pack.

'''Al''': Yeah. Well anyway, uh, I, I’m Catie’s ride, and I got some stuff to do, so…

'''Barb''': Yeah.

'''Al''': So probably should be heading out, yeah.

'''Catherine''': Nice meeting you.

'''Barb''': Nice meeting you too.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Barb''': I look forward to seeing you again.

'''Catherine''': Certainly.

'''Al''': Yeah. And that, and this is like, we just went out to eat, and we just dropped in unannounced, and we don’t wanna, yeah we won’t take up too much, too much time. Good meeting you, Mrs. Chandler.

'''Chris''': Partially, partially, partially unannounced, because I had thought about bringing ''her'' over here anyway.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Chris''': At least to meet her, and, you know, watch Gigi, but we couldn’t do that, [Catherine sneezes.] cause um, cause your car’s in the shop. Oh bless you.

'''Catherine''': Excuse me. Thank you. I must, I must have caught cold on the plane.

'''Chris''': I hope not.

'''Catherine''': It happens to me every time I fly. You’ve got 200-odd people in one little tiny plane for about an hour.

'''Barb''': Is it a long flight?

'''Catherine''': Yeah, I have to fly to Chicago, and then catch another flight, so.

'''Chris''': Well cool, I’ll…

'''Barb''': [something about Cole] …to San Francisco, California when he was about seven years old.

'''Catherine''': Yeah. That’s a long flight. I think that’s about, what is that, five hours?

'''Barb''': I don’t quite remember [?] [Laughs]

'''Catherine''': Yeah, but it’s a long flight.

'''Barb''': It was painful. It was painful.

'''Catherine''': Yeah. You get stuck in an airplane, you get all that air recycled. There’s somebody gets sick, it happens to me all the time.

'''Barb''': Yeah it does.

'''Catherine''': I’ll probably be fine in a few days.

'''Chris''': If not there’s always chicken noodle soup.

'''Catherine''': Yeah, definitely.

'''Chris''': They like chicken noodle soup. They’ve had some! [baby voice] Chicken noodle soup. Wasn’t that good, doggies? Yeah.

'''Barb''': Anything with chicken in it…. Well, we’ll let you go now.

'''Al''': Yeah.

'''Catherine''': Alright, thank you for, thank you for your hospitality.

'''Al''': Yep. Nice place. Nice place y'all got here, so.

'''Catherine''': [unintelligible] over there.

'''Chris''': OK, well hey, um, Catherine, before you go…

'''Catherine''': Yeah?

'''Chris''': I wanted to let you know: What am I doing in a place like this? Waiting for the most honest, true, and awesome woman to come around in my life.

'''Catherine''': Oh my god, you’re so sweet!

'''Chris''': I’ve had that, I’ve had, I had that in my head for the long time since I’ve…

'''Catherine''': I’ve got to sneeze again. Sorry.

[?]

'''Chris''': [chuckles]

'''Catherine''': It went back into my forehead.

'''Al''': I hate it when it’s like you’re like 90% ready for sneezing and…

'''Chris''': I’m so glad this is working out very well.

'''Catherine''': Me too. Sorry, we’ve got to get going or [?] things back.

'''Al''': OK.

'''Chris''': OK.

'''Al''': Hey Chris, we’ll both be pretty busy, but you and Catie can talk over the internet and we’ll see if we can work something out.

'''Catherine''': You’ve got my number now, we can text [?]

'''Chris''': [?]

'''Al''': Yeah, we’ll see if we can work something out over the next couple weeks.

'''Chris''': Yeah.

'''Al''': Maybe meet up again.

'''Chris''': Yeah. Hopefully, uh, Catie, you know where we are, you can come over yourself if you feel like it.

'''Catherine''': Yeah, well I would let you know. I wouldn’t just turn up, that would be so rude.

'''Al''': Yeah, OK. Yeah, anyway, yeah, we wouldn’t want to interrupt nothin’. Nothin’ like that.

'''Chris''': Yeah, that’s understandable.

'''Al''': Yeah. OK, well it was nice meet- [audio cuts off]

==External Links==
*[https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16op1Mxtq7rDMXQfI4rEgsmJNSthJHYxH?usp=sharing Download the audio here.]

[[Category:Eyewitness Accounts]]
[[Category:Trolling]]
[[Category:Catherine Saga]]

Fridays After Five

2019-04-19T07:24:50Z

Thnxbb:

[[Image:Fa5 2colorlogo.jpg|150px|center]]

{{Quote|they've found me in R. Life to catch footage of me for their [[Laughs Under Lucricities|gross, uncool amusement]].|Chris, referring to the trolls at FA5.}}

[[File:WantWoman.jpg|thumb|150px|You know he's [[straight]] because his [[bra]] says so.]]

'''Fridays After Five''' is a large block party/concert series that takes place in [[Charlottesville]], [[Virginia]] and Owensboro, [[Clyde Cash the kid video|Kentucky]] from spring until fall. In [[June 2010]], [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] was recorded there, [[C-Ya Later|enjoying real life for once]].

Chris first mentioned Fridays After Five in a [[6 June 2010|video]] explaining his near hit-and-run on [[Michael Snyder]]. Based upon this knowledge, Chris has attended the event since at least 4 June 2010. Chris first alludes to his knowledge of Fridays After Five in the video "[[Rollin' and Trollin']]", in which he stands outside the Charlottesville Pavilion and mentions how [[Christian and the Hedgehog Boys]] play there every Friday night.

== 18 June Sighting==
{{-}}
[[Image:Chrisgirl1.jpg|thumb|left|Chris trying to pick up a [[boyfriend-free girl]].]]
[[Image:Dancing.gif|thumb|185px|right|Chris attempting to dance. Note the man on the bottom-right shaking his head in disbelief.]]

On 18 June 2010, Chris went to one of these events and a [[trolls|good Samaritan]] ([[YouTube]] name [http://www.youtube.com/user/0ArchieBunker0 0ArchieBunker0]) took these videos and pictures of him out in public.

According to the author, Chris wore a T-shirt that says "I Enjoy [[China|Vagina]]" and was wearing a "[[homos|gay]] circular thing" on his hip which is most likely his [[PokeWalker of Fail|PokéWalker]]. At some point, Chris pulled back his crude shirt to reveal his [[obesity|flabby gut]] and [[muscle bra]], which he had apparently seen fit to write [[Love Quest|"WANT WOMAN!"]] on with permanent marker. Note the apparent, inexplicable (knowing Chris) absence of the [[Medallion of Fail]] - although it could have been removed just temporarily in order to simplify the (probably planned) act of pulling back the shirt.

Chris's clothing indicates he is looking to put a new twist on his [[Love Quest|old tricks]]. Like the [[attraction sign]], Chris is shown making a point to display the writing on his clothing, declaring that he "enjoys vagina" and "wants woman." This is yet another example that this [[autistic]] man-child does not learn from the mistakes of his past. Also, the videos filmed at this event mostly showed the back of Chris's head, which shows a small but emerging [[hair|bald]] spot.

Besides exposing his covered bosom to potential [[sweetheart]]s - mostly [[pedofork|severely underage]] - Chris spent his time at the event [[Flipnote Hatena|drawing Flipnotes]] on his [[Nintendo]] DSi, and trying to dance with his famous Autistic Chicken Dance - with all the grace and skill of [[CWC Fighter]].

It is unlikely that Chris was aware of being photographed, which proves that all these actions are Chris's idea of being normal. When Chris eventually realized (or it seemed so) he was being observed, he suddenly disappeared like [[Prank calls#Batman Call|Batman]].

== 9 July Sighting ==
[[File:FAF-06092010.jpg|thumb|right|Tell me why I'm stuck in a sad lonely cage...]]
On 9 July, the troll who spotted Chris on [[McIntire Park#Independence Day Sighting|Independence Day]] spotted him again. According to the troll, Chris had unscrewed the zoom lens from his DSi and was using it as a rudimentary telescope by pressing it up to his eye.

{{quotebox|
Sorry for not adding more with the pictures, but I did notice that Chris had taken his DSi zoom lense(thanks for clarifying that up for me, guys) off his DSi and was using it as a telescope. He had it pressed up against his eye and was constantly watching around him with it for awhile. He also had this habit of taking off and putting on his sunglasses within seconds of each other. It seemed like he paid more attention to what was going on around him than what was happening at the concert. At one point, I noticed a girl, who looked like she was probably still in highschool, jump up on the ledge beside Chris to join a group of friends who happened to be stationed behind the manbaby. In the process, Chris turned to her and it looked like he said something to her, because immediately her facial expression changed from a legit happy one to a forced smile one. She joined up with her friends and they immediately huddled up together, whispering about something. At the same time they all looked up at Chris, and laughed. I can only imagine what he had said to the poor girl. A few moments later, one of the guys in the group picked up his cell phone and snapped a picture of Chris from behind. Maybe he's aware of who Chris is and will share his story somewhere. At that point, whether or not Chris realized they were making fun of him, he picked up his stuff and switched seating spots. I chose to take my leave at that point.}}

This time, the troll managed to take a picture of Chris, who appears to be wearing three [[Pokéwalker of Fail|Pokéwalkers of Fail]]. Two are red and white, and a custom painted one is barely visible underneath his arm. He also has what looks like a small bottle of hand sanitizer tucked into his belt. Chris [[The GAMe PLACe|has been known]] to immediately follow up any handshake with using hand sanitizer on himself. Chris is also holding a [[Attraction Sign|small piece of paper]] between his legs in both photographs, proving even further that he hasn't learned a single thing in the past seven years.

Chris's response to this sighting, delusional as always:<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 3]]: E-mails sent around the time of the FAF sightings</ref>
{{quoteboxred|I lured out one last Friday at the Pavillion ''[sic]'', obviously. I SHOULD have gone after him in pursuit, but the only plan I had programmed in my head in response is take their picture with my DSi. I have reprogrammed my mind to pursue after lure, yell for a policeman, and have him arrested for Taking Photographs at the Pavillion ''[sic]'' during Fridays After 5. On their Triangular, Red Column, they have a rules list, which includes, "No Cameras or Videotaping are Permitted". I am positive I'll lure out the same guy from Last Friday; I only got a brief look at his face, but I am positive I'd [[Blanca Weiss|recognize him on future sight]].}}
Note how he says he's going to have the troll arrested for taking photographs, while [[Chris and reality|in the same sentence]] noting how he had[[Chris and hypocrisy| been taking pictures himself]] the whole time.

==16 July Sighting==
[[File:Manzone.jpg|thumb|right|Something like this.]]
On 16 July, a different troll managed to spot Chris at the park. While no photos were taken, the description given paints a very...''unusual'' picture.

{{quotebox|This probably isn't a big surprise to anyone, but Chris was also at Fridays After Five on July 16th. No pictures, I'm afraid. He was wearing a bright orange sleeveless shirt with what looked like a beer logo on the back and holding a Budweiser aluminum bottle, a little mini fan made to look like an iPod, and a hula hoop for some reason. Most importantly he had a sort of basic attraction sign with him, nothing elaborate or directly sexual but it said something like "Friendly and Flirty Man Zone" or something similar to that and with more smaller text under that I couldn't make out. He was sitting on the back grass part and left a few minutes before the music was over. I would have loved to catch Chris's attempts at using the hula hoop, I bet that was funny as hell.}}

While the initial footage from June introduced the "WANT WOMAN!" bra as a sort of makeshift attraction sign, the most recent sighting reports a full-fledged return of an actual [[attraction sign]], albeit a very basic one.

The hula hoop is more puzzling. It's entirely possible that Chris brought it to add to the dance moves seen on this very page, but given Chris's [[Sonichu's Edge|abysmally low stamina]], [[obesity|corpulent physique]], and total lack of coordination or dancing ability, this seems like a very unusual choice. Another theory is that he used it to mark the boundaries of his "Friendly and Flirty Man Zone". He can be seen at the end of one of the videos "dancing", apparently looking at and drifting towards a girl using two hula hoops near the stage; whether this inspired him to bring one himself or not is a matter of speculation.

==Today==
As of [[September 2015]], no further sightings of Chris at the event have been reported, and it is likely that Chris no longer goes there in fear of being recorded again. He now spends his time at [[Cville Pride]], [[Impulse Gay Social Club]] and [[OmegaCon]].

==Gallery==
{{-}}
<center>
<gallery>
File:100 0669.JPG|The return of the King.
File:100 0670.JPG|[[100 2178|All alone.]]
File:100 0671.JPG|Preparing to put the moves on a [[gal-pal]].
File:100 0673.JPG|The gal-pal's gone...
File:100 0674.JPG|Oh! Potential new gal-pals!
File:100 0676.JPG|Creepy...
File:100 0677.JPG|...fucking...
File:100 0678.JPG|...scene.
File:100 0681.JPG|Eventually, an urgent need to [[Flipnote Hatena|DRAW SOME SHIT]] prevails.
File:100 0682.JPG|Chris enjoying the real world. Also, DAT ASSCRACK.
File:100 0683.JPG|Chris has a deep conversation with an 8-year-old.
File:100 0693.JPG|A wide shot.
File:100 0694.JPG|A close-up of Chris. Notice that he hasn't bothered to fully remove his shirt.
File:100 0695.JPG|Chris showing off his muscular bosom.
File:100 0696.JPG|LOOK AT THAT GUT, GODDAMN!
File:100_0697.JPG|Chris trying to look sexy for Da Ladies.
File:Fridayafterplan.png|CWC's Plan B.
File:FAF-06092010.jpg|From autistic trucker to dorkish plumber.
File:WantMan.jpg|CWC's [[Homos|Plan C]].
File:Hulahoop.png|Chris and the hula hoop.
</gallery>
</center>

==See also==
* [[Flipnote Hatena]]
* [[Love Quest]]
* [[Rollin' and Trollin']]
* [[Pedofork]]

==External links==
* [https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1B1tpwlfKHz8yrG6zPL7Trt1TLcC9Eoiv?usp=sharing Download the Videos]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_rPqlYqWV4&list=PL1FubDWhRfPpNtU4GFh60yOQHtXJbosaw Watch them on YouTube]
* [http://www.charlottesvillepavilion.com/fridaysafterfive/ Fridays After Five at the Charlottesville Pavilion]

== Sources ==
<references />

[[Category:Social life]]
[[Category:Outdoor videos]]
[[Category:Chris-chan videos, June 2010| 2010-06-18]]
[[Category:Field agent videos| 2010-06-18]]
[[Category:Eyewitness Accounts]]
[[Category:Events]]