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2011-09-19T18:52:32Z

Thorgnzorrg:

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*12 [[September 2011|September]]: [[Bob]]'s funeral is held at Monticello Memorial Gardens in Charlottesville at 10 a.m. [[Chris]] and [[Barb]] were <s>more than likely</s> obviously present.
*6 [[September 2011|September]]: [[Bob]] [http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dailyprogress/obituary.aspx?n=robert-franklin-chandler&pid=153539600 dies] at Martha Jefferson Hospital ICU, surrounded by family and friends.
*30 [[August 2011|August]]: Chris release [[Asperchu|Alec Benson Leary's]] bio and picture in [[Christopher Paul Whitney reveal|a video]].
*29 [[August 2011|August]]: [[Response to ADF|Chris responds to ADF.]]
*28 [[August 2011|August]]: [[Victory Rockout]] is uploaded by a third party.
* 23 [[August 2011|August]]: Chris uploads [[Re-Calling Ahuvia|three]] [[Calling Out "Julaaaay" - David|new]] [[Gratitude for a good person in N.C.|videos]]: two calling out [[Jack Thaddeus]] (again) and [[BlueSpike]], and one thanking a ''Sonichu'' fan for sending him a free laptop.
* 20 [[August 2011|August]]: Chris uploads a video singing about [[Wristwatch-SwissWatch for Jeremy "Thorg"|wristwatches]] dedicated to [[Thorg]].

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2011-09-18T16:37:48Z

Thorgnzorrg:

Talk:Thorg

2011-08-31T04:56:07Z

Thorgnzorrg:

Do we really need an article on Thorg? Everything we know about him can easily be incorporated into the Calling Out videos, maybe if he gets mentioned elsewhere we can mention him. In the very least, we can mention him on the [[Trolls]] page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:31, 12 August 2011 (PDT)
*If it is going to be merged, it needs to be merged into trolls. Really, we don't have any more information on him than we do on Brain Bash, so I don't care either way. Though I was planning on massively rewriting the trolls article soon as well. I'd suggest we leave this article open for now, in case further videos provide new information. I suggest we leave the article alone at least until Chris's deadline for the blackmail videos, and if by then we have no more information than we do now or Thorg doesn't do anything, we can merge it. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 10:16, 12 August 2011 (PDT)
::I agree, and I personally feel that Thorg is milking Chris's video to him for as much attention as possible here on the CWCki. --[[User:DarthNiggo|DarthNiggo]] 13:22, 27 August 2011 (PDT)
:::It's true, ever since I was a boy I've dreamed of impressing a bunch of spergs on a wiki about a manchild. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 21:56, 30 August 2011 (PDT)

==Know Your Meme==
I suggest we keep the link to the Know Your Meme page. It demonstrates who easily Chris is tricked. I'm not sure why it was removed. [[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 18:28, 14 August 2011 (PDT)
*Security reasons, perhaps?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 20:39, 14 August 2011 (PDT)
**If you can't pick up that Chris was easily tricked, then you are an absolute dumbass and don't deserve to have it spelled out for you. No references to the meme, anywhere, until this is over. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 14:43, 15 August 2011 (PDT)
***If you wish for the article to remain free of references to the meme, fine. I am well aware that anyone who is paying attention to Chris's recent antics knows that he was tricked, but the link shows where the image fed to him came from and adds a little more context. I suggest that, some time down the road, we put the link back in.[[User:Farm Zombie|Farm Zombie]] 15:53, 15 August 2011 (PDT)
****Somewhere down the road, fine. But for now, keep it off the article. There's a reason it was removed in the first place you know. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 09:35, 16 August 2011 (PDT)

===New Thorg related video===
Not sure why Chris released a video relating to Thorg, since he released that information, though of course, we all know how that turned out. --[[User:KHSilverRock|KHSilverRock]] 17:32, 20 August 2011 (PDT)

Chris and religion

2011-08-20T16:51:59Z

Thorgnzorrg: /* Atheism */

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{{quote|When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.|1 Cor 13:11<ref>[http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm]</ref>, on what Chris <s>has failed to</s> will never do.}}

{{quote|my CURRENT church can help me a LOT better than any "professional"|Chris not understanding how Professional help works<ref>[[Vivitheg's AIM chat]]</ref>}}
[[Image:CHRISjesuss.jpg|thumb|right||Program from Chris's baptism]]
'''The religion of [[Christian Weston Chandler]]''' is a complicated topic because his stated religious convictions often differ from his actual, peculiar beliefs about God, sinfulness, and the nature of good and evil.

That Chris professes a belief in Christianity completes the general stereotype of the [[naïve]] hillbilly idiot who thinks that citing divine authority is the way to win arguments about things he doesn't understand. With religion; like anything else, Chris only hears what he wants to hear. For example, he accepts his religion's teachings condemning [[homos]]exuality ''yet'' ignores the fact that it also forbids pre-marital [[sex]], [[Anger|hatred]], [[Race|intolerance]], [[Nudes|pornography]], and [[Mass debating|masturbation]]. This dissonance is exemplified in his reaction to the news that [[PandaHalo]] had been raped and impregnated by [[Clyde Cash]]: he actively encouraged her to spend time with her rapist because a child should know and be raised by both of its parents... shortly after encouraging her to get an abortion.<ref>[[IRC (21 January 2009)]]</ref>

Chris's narrow view of the world requires that [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]] share his religious beliefs, despite the fact that they also regard Chris as their almighty creator and father.

Regardless of his religion, Chris believes he has received [[Dreams|multiple visions from God]].

==Denomination==
{{quote|And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, [[Julie|fornication]], [[Twin Falling Towers|wickedness]], [[Kacey|covetousness]], [[Don't Mess With Me|maliciousness]]; full of [[Infinitely high boyfriend factor|envy]], [[Death threats|murder]], [[Mass debating|debate]], [[Lies|deceit]], [[Chris and anger|malignity]]; whisperers, [[Autism Tutorial Extra|backbiters]], haters of God, [[Aspergers (CWCipedia article)|despiteful]], [[Chris and his ego|proud]], [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|boasters]], inventors of [[Sonichu|evil things]], [[Bob Chandler|disobedient to parents]], [[Naive|without understanding]], covenantbreakers, [[Hanky-panky|without natural affection]], [[Chris and remorse|implacable]], [[Sonichu Special 4|unmerciful]]: who knowing the judgment of God, that they which [[For Julie's Eyes Only|commit such things are worthy of death]], not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.|Romans 1:28-32, on Chris}}

[[Image:SonichuRosechuReligious.jpg|thumb|right|Sonichu and Rosechu recall Joseph's story of "forgiveness" prior to Rosechu brutally faceraping [[Jason Kendrick Howell]].]]
At some time in his youth, Chris was baptized in an unspecified [[Wikipedia:Methodism|Methodist]] church.<ref>[[IRC (28 December 2008)]]</ref> The first church he and his parents are known to have attended is [[Grace Baptist Church]], a small congregation in [[Charlottesville]] that launched in [[2000]].<ref>http://cvilletomorrow.typepad.com/charlottesville_tomorrow_/2007/12/grace_baptist.html</ref> In [[2008]] he was; under [[Nudes|mysterious circumstances]], forced to leave that community, at which time he began attending [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church]].

"Wesley Mem" is located near the [[University of Virginia]] and has an unusually liberal theology; the common conclusion among [[trolls]] is that congregations more in line with Chris's opinions of [[homos]] are equally intolerant of him, so he had to come here. The doctrinal differences between the [[Wikipedia:Southern Baptist|Southern Baptist]] and Methodist denominations are probably too subtle for Chris to concern himself with, and he likely does not identify with any particular denomination of Christianity beyond simply being Protestant.

Chris has no connection to Catholicism, which he seems to regard as a benign but alien practice. In his comics, he assigns it to a minor character, [[Angelica Rosechu]], whose faith doesn't practically differentiate her from the rest of the inhabitants of [[CWCville]] - she's still as much of a slut as the rest of the [[Rosechu (species)|Rosechus]]. (Not to mention, her home congregation is called "Samuel Memorial United Christian Church," which is about the least likely name for a Roman Catholic church Chris could have come up with.)

[[PandaHalo]]'s persona was designed to be devoutly Roman Catholic specifically to confound Chris's desire for pre-marital sex with contraception. Faced with this challenge, Chris tried to argue that God really does allows premarital sex because his pastor said so. Members of the same religion often differ on the finer points of God's will because ultimately there is no objective point of reference to settle the dispute. Chris cannot comprehend this because to him his beliefs ''are'' that point of reference; [[Autism|you either share his beliefs or you're receiving bad information]].

==Concept of God (or: GodJesus)==
[[Image:Jesusbot.jpg|thumb|right|THIS IS WHAT CHRIS ACTUALLY BELIEVES]]
[[Image:CWCletter.jpg|thumb|left|Chris invokes God and Jesus, saying they told him that [[Blanca]] is real. Proof that God and Jesus are on the [[trolls]]' side.]]
[[File:Cwcandf.jpg|thumb|right|Chris's supposed relationship with God]]
[[Image:SchuComic10P09.jpg|thumb|right|God and Jesus tell Chris he is meant to be with Ivy who is [[lie|totally not a troll]], also in this pic, BLASPHEMY!]]
[[Image:Issue 0A Page 8 edit.JPG|thumb|left|[[Asperchu/Background|Radar]] sums it up nicely]]

Chris has a fundamental belief in an omnipotent, benevolent God; beyond this, he also accepts Jesus Christ as the son of God and the savior of mankind. He's reluctant to mention God without also including Jesus, perhaps out of some sense that he must stress his specifically Christian notion of God. In effect, Chris frequently refers to "God and Jesus" (or "GodJesus"<ref>[[Matthew 5:27, CWC Confessions]]</ref><ref>[[CWC Update 9 April 2009]]</ref>) as if they were some sort of [[wikipedia:Binitarianism|Binity]], unlike the mainstream Christian concept of the [[Wikipedia:Trinity|Trinity]], which states that God Himself exists as three "persons" or expressions in one Being.

Being the unparalleled study in [[ego]]tism he is, Chris seems to view God as a more of a metaphor for his own will than a supreme being to whom he is subject. To Chris, God will overlook (or doesn't care about) his misdeeds, but will become as enraged as Chris over those of others, especially when they are against him. Case in point, the ''fact'' that Chris cheated in the [[PaRappa the Rapper contest]] is not nearly as important as the ''suspicion'' that [[Adam Stackhouse]] did.

Chris believes God has a special interest in his own life, which would be consistent with Western monotheism, except that he also thinks God has nothing better to do than attend to him, and him alone. In his worldview, God's primary purpose is to arrange events so that he is happy, and punish those who make him unhappy. This nearly the exact opposite of Christianity which states that man is to serve God. He is commonly observed saying things like "with God (and Jesus) on my side I will... [insert anything Chris [[fail]]s at]." He often invokes the wrath of God in his [[Death threats|infantile threats]], and is oblivious to the fact that God has yet to back him up on any of them.

Much like the [[Wikipedia:Mohammad Reza Pahlavi|Shah of Iran]], Chris attributes most of his motivations to commands given to him directly from GodJesus in [[Dreams|visions]]. His exact beliefs concerning these prophetic dreams are difficult to pin down, but the most rational interpretation is that Chris dreams about something he'd like to do, then wakes up and decides it was God telling him to do it. In Chris's mind, each vision is simultaneously a directive to do something and proof that it will happen no matter what occurs. For instance, after Chris had a vision about fathering a [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|daughter]], he decided he was required to actively [[Love Quest|make that happen]] while also assuring himself that [[Virgin with rage|failure]] was impossible. When Chris was being accused of [[Chris and race|racism]] for insisting that he can only date white women, he justified this by arguing that prophesied daughter must be white.

Subsequent visions from God have supposedly confirmed that [[Blanca]], [[PandaHalo]] and [[Ivy]] were to be the mother of [[Daughter|Chris's child]], despite the fact that each of these women subsequently turned out to be [[trolls]]. This proves that God, if he exists, is either not responsible for Chris's supposedly prophetic dreams, or is having a [[Laughs Under Lucricities|laugh at his expense]].

Chris also believes that if he confesses his sins to GodJesus he will be forgiven. Private confessions directly to God are not uncommon in Protestantism, but generally it's assumed that the confessor is doing so to genuinely atone for mistakes. However, Chris abuses the purpose of confession so that he can commit whatever wrongs he wants and then wipe the slate clean with his "confession." For example, Chris made [[To Clyde and Jack|a video]] in which he suggested that [[Clyde Cash]] and [[Jack Thaddeus]] commit suicide so that they can burn in Hell forever. He later drew them doing just that in [[Sonichu (comic)|his comic]]. Just one day after the comic appearance, Chris answered a fan letter asking why he had been wishing suicide upon them, and pointing out that such a wish conflicts with his Christian beliefs. Chris responded that he had "confessed of that to God and Jesus, and they have forgiven [him] on that."<ref>[[Mailbag 33#Chris demanded suicide under "reasonable hatred"]]</ref> One of two things happened: either Chris wished for their deaths in the video, asked for forgiveness, then gleefully drew it happening afterward anyway, or he waited until he'd finally got done saying his piece, then conveniently offered up his confession right after getting everything out of his system. Either way, such a confession is highly disingenuous.

Traditional theology has long dealt with the so-called "problem of pain" in books Chris is unlikely to read anytime soon. It's strange that despite Chris's strong belief that GodJesus is backing him up on his [[Love Quest]], that God imparts on him such [[stress]] and trolling. He seems to believe that the way prayer works is the same way a little kid learns to get what they want: by saying "please." To Chris, prayer is apparently like ordering a pizza, and as long as you pray for something, it'll show up for you exactly how you ordered it, a principle that applies to base and material things as much as spiritual guidance.
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==Afterlife==
[[Image:Apostle paul rembrandt.jpg|thumb|left|The likely reaction of St. Paul to Chris's "interpretation" of the Bible]]

{{Quote|For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.|Ephesians 2:8-10, on the place of good deeds in the Christian faith.}}
{{Quote|Like most people; our souls leave our bodies, we end up in Heaven or Hell depending on our deeds/misdeeds, and possibly Reincarnation.|Chris, <ref>[[Mailbag 30#Questions]]</ref>}} {{clear}}

While the idea of good deeds causing someone to go to heaven and bad deeds sending them to hell is not an uncommon one, Protestant theology explicitly states that the salvation of one's soul is based completely on one's faith. In general this teaching means that one's prior sins (no matter how terrible) can be forgiven by God, and that members of the faith should try to live righteous lives not because it will get them into heaven, but simply because doing so is morally the right thing to do. The salvation of one's soul through faith is essentially the single point upon which nearly every Protestant denomination is based.

Like everything else, Chris fails at this basic concept, stating that one goes to heaven or hell based completely on personal actions. He personally believes he will go to heaven because he's done "[[Common Questions#Answered 01/01/10|a lot of good deeds]]". Likewise, he feels that [[homos]] are almost certainly bound to go to hell, and need to turn straight to "[[Mailbag 18#In which Chris believes he has magic powers (srsly)|better their chances of going to heaven]]". He has also stated numerous times that he feels [[Clyde Cash|various]] [[Jack Thaddeus|trolls]] are bound for hell for making fun of people over the internet. He has suggested that they [[To Clyde and Jack.MOV|commit suicide]] so that they might receive their eternal punishment faster.

Additionally, Chris [[Mailbag 21#Chris gets a call from The Doctor|believes in the concept of reincarnation]], common in Hinduism and other Eastern religions, though he has yet to offer any criteria for what might cause someone to be reincarnated. While reincarnation was and to some extent is still embraced by a few Christian sects, Chris himself realizes none of this.

==Concept of sin==
{{quote|But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you...|Jesus Christ, Matthew 5:44}}

{{quote|I PRAY TO GOD AND JESUS TO [[Death threats|KILL]] [[JASON KENDRICK HOWELL]]|Chris, [[Sonichu Girls]] Forum}}

{{quote|HAVE A GOD DAMN HEART ATTACK RIGHT NOW, THIS VERY MOMENT YOU READ THIS MESSAGE, YOU GOD DAMN BITCHING WHORE!|E-mail from Chris to [[Vivian]]}}

Other than vehemently opposing [[homos]], [[trolls]] and [[jerkops]], Chris seems to have little notion about the nature of sin and evil except that people who do things he doesn't like should go to hell. This is completely at odds with the part of Christian philosophy that states all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, and anyone who repents his sins will be redeemed.

Chris's understanding of Christian theology is extremely limited, and he does not seem to know anything about the Bible (although he apparently owns a copy of the New International Version). His homophobia had nothing to do with the prohibitions on homosexuality in the Old Testament, which he was unaware of until he heard about it from ''[[Family Guy]]''. His [[Fapcup|aversion to "spilling his seed"]] and his [[recycling|dedication to the unborn]] have absolutely no basis in Biblical passages condemning sexual immorality and abortion.

When Chris gave in to temptation and cybered with [[Vanessa Hudgens]] in violation of his monogamous relationship with [[Ivy]], Chris made [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 17th, 2009|a big production]] out of confessing his sin and seeking forgiveness. This suggests that he previously had little to no experience with the idea of repenting sins before God.

===Guilty of all Seven Deadly Sins===
[[Image:Pope face palm.jpg|thumb|right|Words cannot describe...]]

The concept of there being "seven deadly sins" is a conception of the Catholics founded through doctrine Pope Gregory I established through a revised list of monk Evagrius Ponticus' list of the eight terrible temptations. Catholics, who will mostly tell you that ''any'' sin is equally as bad in the eyes of God. Seeing as this is Catholic doctrine, Protestants do not typically share this belief. Given that Chris very likely could not tell the difference, it doesn't matter much. 

*'''Lust''': His [[Love Quest]]. Between all the purchases of [[sex toys]] and pornography, masturbation, sexual fantasies, intentions with prospective mates, and his objectification of women, lust is not only what seems to consume his every thought, it may very well be what leads to the consumption of his soul by Beelzebub (if you believe in that sort of thing). In fact, he's now on a [[Fuck Quest]]. (See also [[Chris and Sex]]).
*'''Gluttony''': It is not quite known if Chris's [[obesity|girth]] is [[Barbara|hereditary]] or the result of [[McDonalds|over consumption]], but the latter seems more likely having been a spoiled child and being sedentary for the greater part of his life.
*'''Avarice/Greed''': Chris's obsession with gaining wealth via winning contests and his behavior in trying to do so (e.g. putting [[Cole Smithey|his brother's]] questions about his paternity on the back burner while nagging him to vote for him), demonstrate an extreme desire for material gain. Also, he steals from his parents to buy [[PS3|video games he'll never play]]. (See also [[Chris and Money]]). He's even gone so far as to [[The MovingForward videos|destroy his PS3]] in an attempt to gain money.
*'''Sloth''': Obvious; see ''Gluttony''. Content to be the proud recipient of a "[[monthly tugboat]]" while sitting on his ass playing video games and surfing the [[Internet]], Christian rarely even puts forth even the minimal amount effort necessary to draw his Sonichu comics more than a few times a year. He believes doing routine household [[chores]] is [[stress|"stressful"]] and an equivalent to holding a real job.
*'''Anger/Wrath''': [[Mary Lee Walsh]]. [[Jerkops]]. [[I'LL BREAK YOU DEAD]]. "[[CWC Update!!!!! 27 March 2009|I'LL STRANGLE THAT CLYDE CASH!]]". [[Chris and anger|Yeah...]]
*'''Envy''': [[Jerks|His attitude towards other men]] as having taken [[Virgin with rage|"ALL THE PRETTY GIRLS AND LEFT NONE FOR ME!!!"]] is a lot more envy than ''anyone'', let alone Christians, should ever hold towards anything. Another proof of his envy was the personal hate that he aimed at [[Adam Stackhouse]], the winner of the [[PaRappa the Rapper Contest]]. Frankly, Adam deserved to win, but Chris cannot accept that someone else has something (talent) which he does not.
*'''Pride''': Chris's [[Autism|self-centered worldview]] and inability to note his own flaws. Narcissus himself would look down on him for his selfishness. This is partly due to incessant coddling and sheltering from his parents his whole life, while being told that he is perfect in every way, because having autism makes him special. Chris has been told his entire life that the fact that he has autism means that he should have everything handed to him on a silver platter. (See also [[Chris and his Ego]])

===Failure Of All Seven Heavenly Virtues===
[[File:1380120-jesus facepalm super.png|thumb|left|Jesus coming to terms that Chris may be beyond salvation]]

In Christianity, where there is sin, there is redemption. In Christianity there are four Cardinal virtues, which were initially derived from Plato's Scheme from Protagoras and were adapted by Saint Ambrose, Augustine of Hippo, and Thomas Aquinas. In the early Church there were also three theological virtues. In Catholicism these virtues were combined to make '''The Seven Heavenly Virtues'''. These are acts of redemption and righteousness that combat the seven deadly sins. Chris fails at all of them.

*'''Chastity''' '''-''The virtue against Lust''-''': Chris, however, lives accordingly with this virtue, to an extent. As a [[Virgin with rage]] Chris may always live in chastity in the sexual way. But chastity is more than just sex, its cleanliness through cultivated good [[Chris and health|health and hygiene]], and maintained by refraining from [[alcohol|intoxicants]]. Chastity is embracing of moral wholesomeness and achieving purity of thought-through education and betterment. Part of chastity is to be honest with oneself, one's family, one's friends, and to all of humanity. Chastity is the ability to refrain from being distracted and influenced by hostility, temptation or corruption. Chris however lives in filth all day, everyday, eats [[McDonalds|unhealthy food]], and started drinking not too long ago. Chris [[lies|lies All The Fucking Time]]. Chris hasn't tried to better himself since he graduated from college, despite the efforts of [[trolls]], [[white knights]], and [[jerkop|authority]] [[Manajerk|figures]]. Chris loses his anger frequently, masturbates constantly, and spends taxpayer money like it's going out of style.
*'''Temperance''' '''-''The virtue against Gluttony''-''': Temperance to put it simply is restraint, moderation, and taking action at the appropriate time. Chris has no restraint when it comes to his social security. He buys whatever he can afford the instance he sees and wants it whether he needs it or not, almost always the latter. Chris has spent money he doesn't have via his credit cards or his parent’s credit cards.
*'''Charity''' '''-''The virtue against greed''-''': Charity is generosity, charity, and, self-sacrifice. The closest Chris has come to generosity is paying for ebay and other shit for [[Megan Schroeder|Megan]], and not out of being generous, but to either buy her forgiveness, or in attempts to have sex with her. Whether he gives to charity is unknown, but usually you have to have sympathy for others or want to help others, Chris always wants to ''receive'' sympathy and help. Chris hardly sacrifices anything. Chris only sacrifices if he has something to gain, not for the sake of others or to be pious. He sacrificed a few games out of his hundreds for money, and [[PS3#Destruction|destroyed his PS3 in hopes of being paid over $9,000.]] Even when sacrificing a little would better him he is extremely [[Chris_and_negotiation|stubborn]].
*'''Diligence''' '''-''The virtue against Sloth''-''': Diligence is strong work ethic, determination, holding true to your beliefs, and courage. Chris has no work ethic, At All. He only works when he's "inspired", and then at most its only for an hour. Chris is determined in the sense he hasn't given up on Sonichu after all the harassing, but determination also means finishing what you started. Saying ''''"I'M WORKING ON IT!"''' and doing nothing, or quitting for months at a time isn't determination. Chris started [[Sonichu_11|Sonichu issue #11]] in [[August 2009]], skipped finishing it, and started [[Sonichu_12|Sonichu issue #12]] in [[February 2010]]. Chris does hold true in his beliefs, but will flip flop between hating [[homos]] every once in a while. When it comes to courage, well, Chris is a pussy. He always hides behind his parents when it comes to the law, [[List of places that have banned Chris|bans]], and [[Kacey_and_Liquid_Call|uncomfortable phone conversations.]] The one time Chris almost got into a physical fight as an adult was with a large black man named [[The_GAMe_PLACe#Chris.27s_Attitude_at_The_GAMe_PLACe|TJ]], in which he quickly re-worded what he said, sank back down in his seat, and stopped making eye contact. Yet, Chris [[death_threats|threatens people constantly]]. When Chris was threatened over the Internet, he hid under stuffed animals on his couch for a day. <ref>[[Death_threats#Chris_as_recipient]]</ref>
*'''Patience''' '''-''The virtue against Wrath''-''': Patience is forbearance and endurance through moderation, resolving conflicts and injustice peacefully, as opposed to resorting to violence, and giving the grace of forgiveness and mercy. Chris is none of this. He doesn't wait for sales, he buys what he wants, when he wants, whether he has money or not. Chris will try to resolve conflicts peacefully, at first, but quickly starts threatening if his demands aren't met. When it comes to forgiveness, the closest he ever came was three forgiveness blessings, some of which he took back. He's said he forgives [[Mary Lee Walsh]], but still holds a grudge in his [[Autism_Tutorial_Part_3|Autism Tutorial]]. He forgives [[Michael Snyder]], then says he [[Autism_Tutorial_Part_3|hopes he dies a fire with the The GAMe PLACe.]] Chris extremely unmerciful. He took; [[Clyde Cash]], [[Jack Thaddeus]], [[Evan]], [[Mao#Asperpedia|Mao]], and [[Alec Benson Leary]], tortured and killed them in [[Sonichu_10|Sonichu issue #10]].
*'''Kindness''' '''-''The virtue against Envy''-''': Kindness is charity, compassion and friendship for its own sake. Empathy and trust without prejudice or resentment. Unselfish love and voluntary kindness without bias or spite. Once again Chris doesn't meet nearly any of this. Chris has compassion for no one. When his [[Aunt Corrina]] died, Chris seemed more upset that he missed out on stuffing his fat fucking face at a pancake breakfast for her funeral. Chris has no male friends at all, for he thinks all men are [[jerks]]. All his [[gal-pals]] are potential women Chris wants to have sex with; this is not friendship for its own sake. Chris doesn't trust men because of prejudice and resentment. Chris is nothing but selfish, and is only kind to get [[china]] or something he wants.
*'''Humility''' '''-''The virtue against Pride''-''': Humility is modest behavior, selflessness, and the giving of respect. Humility is not thinking less of yourself, it is thinking of yourself less. It is a spirit of self-examination; a hermeneutic of suspicion toward yourself and charity toward people you disagree with. The courage of the heart necessary to undertake tasks which are difficult, tedious or unglamorous, and to graciously accept the sacrifices involved. Reverence for those who have wisdom and those who selflessly teach in love. Giving credit where credit is due; not unfairly glorifying one's own self. Being faithful to promises, no matter how big or small they may be. Refraining from despair and the ability to confront fear and uncertainty, or intimidation.
This may be a long definition, but this is needed for emphasis. Chris fails harder at humility than any other virtue. He is not humble in any way, shape, or form. Chris is not modest at all, be it his body, his achievements, or his personal information. He is pretentious, narcissistic, and his [[Chris and his ego|ego]] is out of control. Chris is selfish; he spends taxpayer money and his parents money on himself, and when someone wants something from him he finds some idiotic way out of it. He wants everything for nothing. Chris only respects himself, his father (sometimes), and world leaders. He has no respect for authority because it inconveniences him, and men because he has to compete against them for china, and they may [[Homos#Fear_of_being_a_homo|cause him to fall off the straight path.]] Chris only thinks of himself, and highly at that. Chris is dishonest when he self-examines himself. He refuses to believe he's anything more than chubby, when by basic BMI standards he's obese. Chris won't do anything that he finds difficult, even if it is easy for functioning members of society. [[Chris and Art|He thinks his art is extraordinary and can't be improved.]] He believes he's not [[naïve]], though he's extremely inexperienced. Chris shuts his mind and insults anyone who disagrees with him. Chris disregards the advice of experienced professionals alot. Chris criticizes people better than him, and art that is substantially better than his, claiming he and his work is better. Chris breaks promises and commitments constantly, by either half-assing it, feigning ignorance, lying about fulfilling his obligation, or lying about the agreeing to do so to begin with. And finally Chris falls into [[stress]] and despair when he doesn't win, and avoids confrontation at all costs.

===Breaking all "Ten Commandments"===

The Ten Commandments are the foundation of all the Abrahamic faiths (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam). Chris isn't a strict follower of these either.

# '''"Thou shalt have no other gods before Me"''': While he claims to be devoted to GodJesus [[Chris and Reality|in real life]], his [[Christian Weston Chandler (comic character)|in-comic persona]] seems to be a full-blown God Mode Sue. Furthermore, he wears a [[Medallion of Fail]] around his neck, in the same place where TRUE and HONEST Christians commonly wear crosses.
# '''"Thou shalt not make an image or any likeness of what is in the heavens above"''': The most common interpretation is that this commandment does not forbid drawing pictures of heavenly beings (seen above), but instead refers to the construction or fashioning of "idols" in the likeness of created things (beasts, fish, birds, people) and worshiping them. Chris seems to believe that either the [[Medallions of Fail]] or the [[Amnyfest Ring]] are the source of [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|supernatural powers]], in direct violation of this commandment.
# '''"Thou shalt not swear falsely by the name of thy Lord"''': Chris has repeatedly cited the name of God when making outrageous claims about what he intends to do, whether it be to get back at [[trolls]], or to find a potential [[sweetheart]], regardless of whether or not he actually succeeds in meeting these unrealistic expectations. He also says "goddamn" a lot too.
# '''"Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy"''': As noted above, the Sabbath is almost exclusively observed by Jews rather than Christians, but it is still pretty likely that Chris has broken this commandment by "going to work" (making his comics, which he intends to make money off of) on Saturday. A more straight-up example would be the countless times that he has neglected going to church on Sunday, the Christian sabbath.
# '''"Honor thy [[Bob Chandler|father]] and thy [[Barbara Chandler|mother]]"''': Surprisingly, Chris has come pretty close to actually obeying this commandment. Not close enough, however, as Chris has been known to do [[THAT IS MY HOUSE|things]] that [[Bob walks in|upset]] his father.
# '''"Thou shalt not kill"''': Hoo boy. Chris [[Death threats|seems to want to directly defy this commandment]]. Bonus points for actually praying to GodJesus to kill his enemies... and then repenting to GodJesus in the same breath. Alternatively, considering the revelation that he believes cartoon characters really exist, his actions in [[Sonichu 10]] where he collapses a building full of people, killing at least a hundred people for relatively minor slights gives him the biggest body count of the series.
# '''"Thou shalt not commit adultery"''': In the literal sense, Chris will most likely be following this commandment [[Virgin with Rage|for the rest of his life]]. Christians believe that this commandment states that they should avoid having any lustful thoughts, sex before marriage, etc. Figuratively, however, he broke this rule when he cybered with [[Vanessa Hudgens]] and had phone sex with [[Julie]]. In his [[comic]], his affair with [[Lovely Weather]] arguably counts as a form of adultery, as well, and even if it doesn't, his subsequent affair with Meg from ''[[Family Guy]]'' certainly does. Also, he clearly has [[Third date|no problem with]] [[F Abstinance|premarital sex in general]].
# '''"Thou shalt not steal"''': If [[Chris and Copyright|plagiarism]] counts, he may as well be sitting in the Devil's lap. He has stolen money from his parents to purchase games on PSN and he even purposely wrote a bad check to Joshua for a PSP. Also, one could argue that he is guilty of stealing [[monthly tugboat|your taxpayer dollars.]] However, some scholars argue that this commandment actually means ''Thou shalt not kidnap'', which Chris hasn't done... yet. Watch your back, ladies.
# '''"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor"''': Chris has been known to [[Lie|bend the truth]] in order to make himself look good and to defame [[Jerkops|other]] [[Mary Lee Walsh|people]], if his [[Sub-Episodes|comics]] are any indicator. This was especially prevalent within the [[Alec Benson Leary]] saga.
# '''"Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's goods"''': Arguably the one he is most guilty of breaking. As noted in the Seven Deadly Sins, Chris has shown to be extremely resentful to other people who win prizes, be they [[Adam Stackhouse|video games]], [[Honor Roll|art awards]], or [[JERKS|girlfriends]]. It should also be noted that the original passage in the Bible specifically forbids the coveting of your [[Liquid Chris|neighbor]]'s [[Kacey|wife]], which would be a bit redundant considering #7.

===Breaking the Levitical Laws===

The Levitical laws were written for Hebrews, as a covenant with God. They are a priestly code of social behavior, with the agreement that if the laws are followed, the Hebrews would be given the Promised Land. Despite the fact that these laws were made for a culture thousands of years ago, and only followed by strict observers of [[Wikipedia:Halakha|Halakha]], Chris seems to have no problem applying these laws to modern times and modern people. Well, [[Chris and hypocrisy|sometimes]].

In [[CWC with Bible - Leviticus]], Chris touts one of the most used and abused Bible verses, Leviticus 18:22, as evidence that [[homos]]exuality is "just plain wrong". Unknown to Chris, this is a part of the old Levitical code, which has many, many other commandments. Chris breaks Levitical Law on a near daily basis.

There are many, many laws, and Chris breaks too many of them for them to all be listed here. Some prime examples include:

*'''[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2011&version=NIV Leviticus 11]''' This whole chapter deals with was sort of animals you should and should not eat. Even though Chris eats at [[McDonald's]] every "2 or 3 times a week", odds are that he's had pork or shellfish at least once in his life, if not many times.
*'''[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2019:11&version=NIV Leviticus 19:11]''' "Do not steal. Do not lie. Do not deceive one another." [[List of Chris's lies|Chris lies a lot]].
*'''[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2019:12&version=NIV Leviticus 19:12]''' "Do not swear falsely by my name and so profane the name of your God. I am the LORD." Most of this article is dedicated to the misuse of God's name.
*'''[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2019:19&version=NIV Leviticus 19:19]''' "Keep my decrees: Do not mate different kinds of animals. Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material." Chris benefits from the science of hybridization daily. Those Chicken McNuggets of which he's ever so fond come from hybrid corn, and you can bet his [[Chris and Fashion|clothes]] aren't a pure weave. And what is [[Sonichu]], if not "mating different kinds of animals": a [[Sonic|hedgehog]] and a [[Pokémon|Pikachu]] (itself a hybrid of the mouse and the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pika pika])?
*'''[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2019:26&version=NIV Leviticus 19:26]''' "Do not eat any meat with the blood still in it. Do not practice divination or sorcery." It's fairly doubtful that Chris keeps kosher about the meat, but more importantly... [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]]! [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha Retraction|FORGIVENESS BLESSINGS!]]
*'''[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2019:27&version=NIV Leviticus 19:27]''' "Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard." [[That Goatee WILL Grow Back]]
*'''[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2019:28&version=NIV Leviticus 19:28]''' "Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD." While Chris has not directly violated this law, he has used tattoos to [[Chris and fashion#The "IBA." outfit|attract the ladies]].
*'''[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2020:6&version=NIV Leviticus 20:6]''' "I will set my face against the person who turns to Mediums and spiritists to prostitute himself by following them, and I will cut him off from his people." Chris has claimed to hear the voices of [[Aunt Corrina]], his [[Cherokian Clan|other]] [[Daniel Weston|ancestors]], and GodJesus at the former's funeral, all giving approval to his [[Love Quest|quest]] for [[china]].<ref>[[Sarah May Skype Logs]]</ref>

However, when Christianity first became a religion, Saint Paul came up with the new covenant, so all the bits about circumcision, sacrificing goats, eating a kosher diet, and other Levitical laws no longer apply. Anyone who claims to be a Christian and still follows the Levitical laws isn't really a Christian so much as an ultra-orthodox Jew, or a [[Wikipedia:Seventh-day Adventist Church|Seventh-day Adventist]]. Also, many of Jesus' teachings abolish many of the Leviticus and Deuteronomy laws, such as food by in which Jesus said '''"''It is not what enters into the mouth that defiles the man, but what proceeds out of the mouth, this defiles the man.''"''' There are a few ultra-fundie Christians who follow some of the old Leviticus laws due to a passage on Matthew, but all of this is irrelevant in the first place since Chris neither reads the Bible or seriously cares about Christianity.

==Chris the Shaman==
{{quote|The spirit of Patti will have his soul for dinner tonight! She will be haunting your nightmares, Mr. Leary.|Chris, [[Asperchu is a Horrendous Joke]]}}

{{quote|1) "Curse-Ye-Ha-Me-Ha" - Placing Bad Luck and Extreme Misfortune on all of those who give me grief or hate. 2) "Forgiveness Blessing" - Cures all ailments of virus or physical qualities. 3) "Hono" - Makes Gays, regardless of gender, become Straight; NEVER to be gay EVER Again. 4) "Peaceful Teaching" - Quells all disputes and disagreements within a 1000 mile radius, and turns all weaponry into dust. 5) "Come to me, my Women" - Locates and attracts 18 to 30-year old single women within a 5-mile radius.|Chris's terrifyingly insane list of "spells", [[Mailbag 23#Chris and the dark arts|Mailbag 23]]}}
[[Image:Ickeriss medallions.jpg|thumb|right||The Medallions serve as Chris's connection to the spirit realm.]]

Despite his professed Christianity, Chris's beliefs and behaviors almost tend towards a sort of shamanistic mindset, where God is a force to be controlled and the universe can be influenced by various mystic rituals. In Chris's case, he seems to believe that his tirades and tantrums will somehow affect the trolls who torment him. His attacks on the [[Clown Doll]], for instance, are a metaphorical threat, but also suggest an attempt at somehow literally harming the trolls through [[Wikipedia:sympathetic magic|sympathetic magic]], like a voodoo doll. He views his revenge against his enemies in the comic or in ''[[Soul Calibur]] III'' as being equivalent to actual revenge, rather than simply venting.

The world of [[CWCville]] is also a spirit realm, where Chris is almighty and can create and shape it as he pleases due to his power of "creativity". It exists outside, but parallel, to the real world, and sometimes Chris seems to honestly believe that it's a real place, even if it's just imaginary. This idea of the spirit realm became more valid when, in a [[Asperchu is a Horrendous Joke|video]], Chris claimed that the soul of his [[Patti Chandler|dead dog]] (now [[Patti-Chan|living in CWCville]]) would devour Alec Benson Leary's soul and haunt his [[dreams]].

While Chris has used the [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] in reality, he never took it too seriously, at least until he used it on [[Liquid Chris]] in a video. With the "kidnapping" of Liquid, he then realized that he had "the power" to actually curse people. He also developed a new ability to bless people via the [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha Retraction|Forgiveness Blessings]] skill. He honestly seems to believe that these powers are real, even stating in one video that if it works, then he knows he has "the power." GaoGaiGar fans then promptly wanted to hit Chris for his abuse of [[Wikipedia:The_King_of_Braves_GaoGaiGar_glossary#.22THE_POWER.22_and_Jupiter-X|ZA POWER]]. Chris later stated in a music video that if people antagonize him, they will be cursed, but if you're TRUE and HONEST, you will receive blessings.

[[Image:thoushaltnotsufferacwctolive.JPG|thumb|left||Thou shalt not suffer a CWC to live.]]
Chris ought to be aware that his sorcery is not merely atypical of a Christian, but in fact explicitly proscribed by his faith. [http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=galatians%205:19-20&version=KJV Galatians 5:19-20] lists witchcraft as one of the more blatant acts of sin, whilst in the Old Testament, [http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+22%3A18&version=KJV Exodus 22:18] commands "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live". That's right, there's a Biblical mandate for Chris's death (and though there is some debate as to whether or not the original terms used refers only to harmful spellcasters, Chris has repeatedly attempted to curse people with things like death and haunting for very petty reasons). Alec Benson Leary, in one of his [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 8|phone calls]] with Chris, attempted to point out the thoroughly un-Christian nature of Chris's dabbling in black magic, but his reasoning appeared to have little effect.

Of course, it is important to remember, even if he did convert to a shamanistic faith, chances are most groups would kick him out just as quickly. Cursing people is one of the few things Wiccans and neo-Pagans are forbidden from doing, and most all groups would look down upon his general idiocy and his dabbling into powers [[Slow-in-the-minds|beyond his comprehension]] – not to even mention the fact that neo-Pagans often take a dim view on people who get into religious groups [[Chris and sex#Moral basis on sex and double standards|just to get sex]], without comprehending the philosophy. No matter what, Chris will likely be hated for being an [[Chris and his ego|egotistical]], [[Women's Rights|sexist]], [[Chris and Race|racist]], failure.

For all we know, Chris will one day start popping magic mushrooms and writing comics based on that, which many agree would be a huge improvement on his current work.

==Delusions of Godhood?==
{{quote|Fear not. For behold I bring tidings of great joy.|Sonichu, [[Sonichu 10]]}}
{{quote|I prayed for forgiveness from the real Christian. Sonichu, will he forgive me?|Aspie Sonichu, [[Sonichu 10]]}}
[[Image:Issue 10 Pg 48.jpg|thumb|Sonichu cracks open his tomb and descends in a beam of light.]]
Starting on page 42 of [[Issue 10]], Chris displays a somewhat disturbing twist to the plot (such as it is) of his comics. [[Ultra Sonichu]] frees [[Zelina Rosechu]] from her stoned state using his Chaotic powers, then appears to [[Darkbind Sonichu]] with a message similar in tone, if not outright text, to prophecies of the coming of Jesus Christ (complete with arms outstretched as if he were suspended on a crucifix).

Later on in the issue, Ultra Sonichu travels to the world of [[Asperchu]], where the characters of that comic inform him that they were forced into their roles by Alec, and that they had been praying to Christian Weston Chandler for deliverance and forgiveness. Lo and behold, Chris did send the Messiah Sonichu to end their suffering. Sonichu uses the "Chaotic Remedy" to miraculously cure them all of their [[Asperger's syndrome]] (even though only Asperchu himself had the condition) and gives them new names and new, "better" looks.

It should be noted that, like Jesus Christ, [[Sonichu]] was born to a [[virgin with rage|virgin]].

Even before this, Chris had directly compared himself to God. In Issue 7, after Christian is lost in the Time Void, [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_7/Page_32 Sonichu says this].

{{quote|In the meantime, he will receive the accumilitive memories of the passing moments, so in a way, he is looking down on us, like our Lord and God are able to, but the vision may be blurred.|Sonichu, [[Sonichu 7]]}}

Possibly in response to criticism about acting as God, in [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Issue_10/Page_62 later pages] Chris addressed the issue of the non-canon chaotic combo worshiping him in an incredibly ignorant manner. First, he declares that he is not God but "a servant of him and Jesus", and immediately after goes on to "forgive" Michael (the copycat Sonichu's made-over name) for "baring false witness against <nowiki>[Chris]</nowiki>", as if he has the authority to forgive the breaking of the ten commandments, ''like he's God or something.'' In addition, only five pages later [[Angelica]] condemns those who prefer [[Asperchu|Alec]]'s artwork over Chris's as "blasphemous".<ref>[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P66.jpg Issue 10, page 66]</ref>

Further evidence of Chris's blossoming God complex comes through his answer to some of the frequently asked questions that were put to him via the [[Mailbag]], where he states that he considers Sonichu to have over a billion fans. The only other fictional character who can claim such a number is God himself. This mad fuckery is compounded by the fact that Chris is like a God to Sonichu; this means that his opinion of himself is that of a God's God. Or maybe a [[Christopher's name change|God's bear]]. Chris moves in mysterious ways.

In his e-mails to [[Reggie Fils-Aimé]] he describes himself as a "Lamb of God." Jesus Christ is commonly referred to as this by many Christians.
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==Chris and other faiths==
Chris's comments on religions other than his own are scattered and inconsistent. Given his sheltered existence in the heart of the suburban American South, he probably hasn't had much direct exposure to anything but mainstream brands of Protestantism. When his "fans" asked him for his feelings on other religions during an [[IRC (28 December 2008)|IRC chat]], he glossed over the question and simply reiterated his own unthinking statement of faith.
===Other Christian sects===
Chris has described "[[Wikipedia:Mormonism|Mormans]]" [sic] as not being datable.<ref>[[MySpace messages]]</ref> He has never explained why, but he may have learned through [[Anna]] that Mormons typically don't date non-Mormons.

[[Angelica]] is a [[Wikipedia:Catholic Church|Roman Catholic]], raised by [[Wikipedia:Nun#Catholic|nuns]]. However, she is still a huge slut without any opposition to premarital sex.

===Judaism===
"[[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas Story]]" reveals that Chris has some awareness of [[Wikipedia:Judaism|Judaism]], probably picked up from watching ''[[South Park]]''. He appears to not understand that Jews and [[Wikipedia:Buddhism|Buddhists]] don't celebrate [[Christmas]]. However, in the way he wrote it, it is unknown if he's implying that Christians, [[Hanukkah|Jews]] and [[Christmas#Jolly Buddah (sic)|Buddhists]] go to the same place of worship, or if he's saying they go to separate places of worship and calls them "churches" because his vocabulary is heavily lacking. In [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]], Chris is being blatantly anti-Semitic by "just throwing it out there" that he thinks Snyder is Jewish, and uses "Jew" as an insult (which he also got from ''South Park''). [[Some Favored Comedians]] is a thinly-veiled furious backpedaling attempt in which he rambles on and on about how he respects Jewish comedians like [[Wikipedia:Jerry Seinfeld|Jerry Seinfeld]].
===Islam===
In a CWCipedia [[Chris-Chan_(CWCipedia)#Chris-Chan_the_Moralf.2A.2A|article]], he strongly hints at feeling great hatred towards Muslims. Although the article primarily exists to deny various accusations trolls have made about him, he does not deny being a "prolific hater of all things not Christian".<ref>[[Chris-Chan (CWCipedia)]]</ref> Other than not being Christian, he probably hates Muslims because he's enough of a dumbass to likely believe all Muslims are terrorists because of 9/11, [[Twin Falling Towers|which he mocked]].

===Atheism===
[[Vivitheg's AIM chat|Vivian Gee]]'s belief in [[Wikipedia:Taoism|Taoism]], a non-theistic religion, seemed to be a concept he couldn't process.

He doesn't think much of atheists, but even there Chris has a hard time articulating his opinion. When Vivian asked him to explain why he dislikes them, he said, "I don't know, but I do know that they are not believers of God and Jesus."<ref>[[Vivitheg's AIM chat]]</ref> It's even harder for atheists to try and take [[GodJesus]] seriously enough to believe in them when Chris goes around boasting about having the deities on his side as though they were his personal avengers. When asked "You often attempt to scare your [[troll]]s by stating they will go to hell. Some of your trolls do not believe in hell, what do you have to say to them?" by [[Thorg]] in [[Common_Questions#09_January_2010|Common Questions 9 Jan 2010]], his response was:

{{quote|Firstly, it is NOT a "scare tactic", [[Chris and reality|IT IS FACT]]. And second, I say "Well, Believe it or not. You are Not Dead Yet".}}

While it might hurt your brain trying to translate that second line from autism to English, Chris is trying to say that Hell exists but we haven't experienced it yet because we're still alive. In the [[List_of_OkCupid_Answers|OkCupid]] answers, Chris stated that he would not date an atheist.

In [[Calling Out]] videos, Chris gives "pizza-faced atheist" as [[Thorg]]'s defining characteristic, with a heretofore unseen vitriol. Then in a later video, he attacks atheism with arguments so silly that even a strawman fundamentalist wouldn't use them, and that's saying something.

{{quote|But... I would certainly not want to be an atheist, 'cause if I don't have [[GodJesus|God or Jesus]] at my- by my side, I would be more lost than I was considerably beforehand! Atheists... are the [[Beel|Devil]]'s spawning, as it would seem! ...And I would certainly would not want to be amrong- amongst them when they are run out of town with the pitchforks and the [[Chris and English|hace]] and the fire! As a believer... I would either be a [[Chris and Anger|peacem- I would more likely be a peacemaker]], but I certainly wouldn't mind being one with the pitchfork, following the crowd and pushing the atheist out of town!}}

When Chris [[Exposed - Jeremy Slonwhite of Vancouver, BC Canada‎|exposed Thorg]], his reasoning for wanting people to troll Thorg instead of him devolve from "because he's trolling me" to "because he's an 'evil' athiest". The video was removed because it was declared, and rightfully so, hate speech.

Chris's half-brother [[Cole Smithey]] is also an atheist.<ref>[[Cole Smithey E-mails]]</ref>

==Sauces==
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==See also==
*[[Angelica Rosechu]]
*[[Dreams]]
*[[Christmas]]
*[[Christian's name change|GodBear]]
*[[Grace Baptist Church]]
*[[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church]]

==External links==
*[http://store.engrish.com/godjest.html Buy your own GodJesus T-shirt here]

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2011-08-20T16:49:15Z

Thorgnzorrg:

It should be noted that this picture was posted August 8, 2011 as 10/8/11 will confuse some people who would read it October 8,2011 --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 04:09, 16 August 2011 (PDT)
*The picture says, and was made on, 10 August, 2011. Hurrrfdurrrrf. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 09:49, 20 August 2011 (PDT)

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2011-08-15T21:46:06Z

Thorgnzorrg:

Fuck you damned trolls I quit trolling forever.

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2011-08-15T21:43:39Z

Thorgnzorrg: /* Know Your Meme */

Thorg

2011-08-15T21:42:15Z

Thorgnzorrg:

[[Image:TH.PNG|thumb|Elusive master troll Thorg.]]
{{Quote|He is a pizza-faced atheist.|Chris on Thorg<ref>[[Calling_Out#Calling_Out_.22Thorg.22_-_Jeremy]]</ref>}}

'''Thorg''', real name "'''Jeremy Slonwhite'''" (born 1978 or 1979), is a [[troll]] who gained notoriety in [[August 2011]], when he was targeted by [[Chris]] through a series of [[Calling Out|blackmail videos]]. Chris claimed he was responsible for exposing [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]] in July 2011 and creating a [[20 December 2009|slanderous billboard]] back in 2009.
== Calling Out "Thorg" - Jeremy ==
[[File:Clyde billboard 04.jpg|thumb|350px|Follow your tomdreams, Chris.]]
Following Chris's eight-month absence from the [[Internet]], he reappeared with three videos addressed to Thorg and [[Surfshack Tito]]. In the second, "Calling Out "Thorg" - Jeremy", Chris claimed to have information on Thorg; that his real forename was Jeremy, that he lived in Canada, that he could be found in a [[video game]] store, and that he was an [[Chris and Religion|atheist]]. He then proceeded to make several demands, including the removal of all references to Tomboys and Tomgirls from the CWCki, a public apology video, and a billboard display in New York claiming that Chris was [[Homos|straight]].

In "Deadline for Don "Tito" and Jeremy "Thorg"", Chris set the deadline for these demands at 31 August.

== Re: Don, and ReCalling Out "Thorg" - Jeremy ==

While [[Surfshack Tito|Tito]] eventually caved in to Chris's demands a few days later, Thorg remained unconvinced that Chris meant business and neglected to respond. On 10 August Chris released [[Calling Out#Re: Don, and ReCalling Out "Thorg" - Jeremy|a video]], in which he reiterated his demands for Thorg and revealed more information on him. More images of him were released, and Chris disclosed that he was a fan of [[Wikipedia:Live action role-playing game|LARPing]].

Chris was also incredibly hostile towards Thorg's atheism, going on a tangent about how, through the power of empathy, Chris [[Chris and Reality|could feel]] what it was like to be Jesus because Jesus was crucified and Chris was trolled. He also mentioned that as a [[Lie|good natured]] Christian he wouldn't do it, but he would love to chase Thorg out of town with an angry mob wielding pitchforks and torches.

[[Image:Gaybar.png|thumb|The Photoshop in question.]]

Most of Chris's hostility towards atheism appears to come from ''[[Family Guy]]'' and simple creationist arguments, likely picked up from the Internet, his father or his congregation.

==Exposed==
On 12 August, a full 19 days ahead of the deadline, Chris [[Exposed - Jeremy Slonwhite of Vancouver, BC Canada|exposed]] the dox he had collected on Thorg. This included his age (32), city of residence ([[Wikipedia:Vancouver|Vancouver]]), place of employment ([[Gamestop]]), and nerdy interests. Chris also revealed several full pictures of Thorg.

== See also ==
*[[Calling Out]]
*[[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]]
*[[20 December 2009]]

==References==
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2011-08-13T19:01:23Z

Thorgnzorrg:

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ATHEIST troll [[Thorg]]'s response to [[Calling Out|Chris's Demands]]

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2011-08-13T19:00:46Z

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ATHEIST troll [[Thorg]]'s response to [[Calling Out'|Chris's Demands]]

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2011-08-13T18:59:01Z

Thorgnzorrg:

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2011-08-13T17:32:08Z

Thorgnzorrg:

{{Not A Forum}}
Anyone transcribing this? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 11:39, 12 August 2011 (PDT)
*I'll get to it... [[User:CompyRex|CompyRex]] 12:08, 12 August 2011 (PDT)
:I'm not but Haven't I seen that picture of Jeremy on 4Chan somewhere. I swear I've seen that picture many many times before. [[User:ShinGokuIAM|ShinGokuIAM]] 11:43, 12 August 2011 (PDT)

::Yes, apparently it is a popular trolling picture from something wholly unrelated to Thorg. I believe it is referenced on the "Calling Out" page entry. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 11:47, 12 August 2011 (PDT)

::: [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/butthurt-dweller-gordo-granudo Butthurt Dweller] --[[User:SorridSnake|SorridSnake]] 12:03, 12 August 2011 (PDT)

Okay, he's wearing the red bra but he's also wearing an unknown top. kinda looks like a sleeveless robe or something. Anyone got a clue? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 11:48, 12 August 2011 (PDT)

:To me, the coloring suggests its a ''woman's'' tank top. Our little <s>homo</s> tomgirl's fashion sense in action. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 11:52, 12 August 2011 (PDT)

It might be worth mentioning that he seems to have quite a cocktail of pill bottles behind him - more than I remember seeing before. The facial tick from the other video makes me think he's either reacting badly to medication, or is in even more desperate need of it than before. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 12:20, 12 August 2011 (PDT)
:They look like containers of vitamins/supplements to me. It's also possible he's bought into weight loss pills.--[[User:Henry Bemis|Henry Bemis]] 12:31, 12 August 2011 (PDT)
::That health nut. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 12:38, 12 August 2011 (PDT)
:::More like looking for that easy fix. --[[User:Henry Bemis|Henry Bemis]] 12:41, 12 August 2011 (PDT)
::::The styling of the bottles is consistent with [http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1T4ACGW_enUS389US390&q=nature%20made&um=1&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=fi&biw=1366&bih=562 Nature Made products], which are generally vitamins and other health supplements. Considering that McDonalds is his standard meal, its not unreasonable to believe Chris is chugging vitamins down in an attempt to balance his intake. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 12:44, 12 August 2011 (PDT)

Youtube removed it. Anybody grab it? --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 12:39, 12 August 2011 (PDT)
:I didn't, and this is not good either. Chris may be less inclined to upload now that his account has been stricken. :( --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 12:44, 12 August 2011 (PDT)
::I have a copy, but I'm afriad Youtube will rip it down again if I upload it. --[[User:MaxTehManyula|MaxTehManyula]] 13:05, 12 August 2011 (PDT)
:::I think it's less likely to get taken off of CWCVilleLibrary. Nobody's going to report it there. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 13:08, 12 August 2011 (PDT)
::::Besides, his screed(s) against Michael Snyder made its way back on to YouTube under the context of highlighting Chris's idiocy, whereas Chris meant SERIOUS BUSINESS.--[[User:Henry Bemis|Henry Bemis]] 13:13, 12 August 2011 (PDT)
:::::That's a relief. I'll see what I can do. --[[User:MaxTehManyula|MaxTehManyula]] 13:14, 12 August 2011 (PDT)
::Here's a copy: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NANTFJWH [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 13:15, 12 August 2011 (PDT)
:::<s>Can someone get a copy posted to TheCWCvilleLibrary? </s>--[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 13:38, 12 August 2011 (PDT)
::::Taken care of. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 13:58, 12 August 2011 (PDT)

Anyone know how he's getting this "information" on the trolls? Obviously the images are fake but what about the other information? [[User:CommanderBoreal|CommanderBoreal]] 19:02, 12 August 2011 (PDT)
:Chris probably got his stuff via help through someone on the Tomboys and Tomgirls of Virginia website. No doubt they gathered info on trolls and are giving him TRUE and HONEST information ;) --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 19:14, 12 August 2011 (PDT)

Good job on creating a new video page without fucking it up =) --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 19:16, 12 August 2011 (PDT)

Is the writing on Thorg's sign worth mentioning in the article? I could barely make it out, but as far as I can tell, it reads "CWC is a fat retard tranny. -Thorg 10/7/2" --[[User:Groggers|Groggers]] 23:13, 12 August 2011 (PDT)
:I think so, at least in the transcript. Since the sign is pretty difficult to read in the video, we should see if anyone, especially Thorg, has the photo. --[[User:Marco|Marco]] 00:08, 13 August 2011 (PDT)
::Speaking of mentioning, when Chris made the statement on how ugly "Thorg" is, should we call that out via the Hyprocrisy page and/or joined by a few other pages like his hygiene, obesity, and current tomgirl phase? --[[User:Marco|Marco]] 00:08, 13 August 2011 (PDT)
:::Sounds like a good idea to me, Marco. I couldn't even really read the sign properly with the naked eye, I had to run it through Photoshop to even make it out. Getting the actual source picture would probably be a good idea, though. --[[User:Groggers|Groggers]] 00:26, 13 August 2011 (PDT)
::::As of right now my computer is shut down until I can take care of a nasty virus so I can't get you the original picture but I can confirm that it says "CWC is a fat retard tranny -Thorg 10/8/2011" --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 10:32, 13 August 2011 (PDT)

Talk:Calling Out

2011-08-10T03:38:44Z

Thorgnzorrg: Stop sperging and read Anonymax's comment above.

{{Not_A_Forum}}

transcribing--[[User:Crooked tooth|Crooked tooth]] 12:42, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
Sorry i cant transcribe my computer is fucking up--[[User:Crooked tooth|Crooked tooth]] 15:24, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
The ''Calling Out "Tito" - Don'' video says it's unavailable =/ --[[User:Elliebytes|Elliebytes]] 12:53, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
:At the moment there is a problem with the video (probably Chris being a dumbass). It's viewable on his YouTube channel page, and I'm about to upload a backup until we can get it on the CWCVilleLibrary. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 12:54, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

Do we really want to be talking about the pix on here? Someone might read it. -[[User:BrianBash|BrianBash]] 15:35, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
: We won't know the true authenticity of the photos until Chris surrenders them. Until such a time, please refrain from theories as to who might be depicted in the photos. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 16:34, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

== Tomboy/Tomgirl forum ==

I cannot believe that stalking him actually lured him out of his "retirement."

== Hiatus Stats ==

This video hiatus from November 22, 2010 to August 6, 2011 was '''257 days long.'''

This is not Chris's longest hiatus from Youtube. The gap between [[Captain's Log, Stardate November 7th, 2007]] and [[Captain's Log, Stardate August 3rd, 2008]] was '''270 days long'''.

*I used the date calculator on timeanddate.com to compile this and I did not include the end date. I don't know if this belong on the actual Calling Out page or somewhere else. So I'm just writing it here for reference. Feel free to add the info to this or another article. -- [[User:Crow|Crow]] 18:28, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

Went ahead and added this to the [[Chris and the Internet]] page. [[User:Dantz|Dantz]] 20:18, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

I find it funny how his self-introduction is still word for word from one of his [[Captain%27s_Log,_Stardate_August_3rd,_2008|earliest videos to the fandom]]- shows how little he's changed. Signfiicant enough to add to the video's description? --[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 01:46, 9 August 2011 (PDT)

== Billboard, events, and Heather ==

Chris mentions being on a billboard in New York. Do we have any pictures of that? Do we have any information at all about the previous events to lead up to this?? And is the Heather he spoke of "Wallflower". If so, I think it's note-worthy that we mention that he still says they were dating at one point when she has said before (multiple times) that they weren't. If it isn't Wallflower...we need to find out who the heck she is. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 22:15, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
: Yes, yes, and yes. And yes: Chris is delusional.--[[User:Henry Bemis|Henry Bemis]] 22:29, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

:: To answer your questions, Vans shoes had some promotion at the end of 2009 where people could submit photos that would go up on a billboard in Times Square. There were over 4 submitted of Chris by various trolls. The pics are probably somewhere, but I can't find them... Also, for the record, the Wallflower has a standing agreement with the CWCki not to be publicly identified. she shall be referred to only as the Wallflower, as we are true and honest, unlike Chris. --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 22:45, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

::*I haven't gotten a chance to closely watch the videos, but how to handle the mention of the Wallflower is addressed [[CWCki:The Wallflower|here]]. Her name stays in the transcript but there's to be no linking and such. Also, the billboard images are [[20_December_2009|here]].--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:23, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
:::* Ah, I apologize for my naivety on this matter. I feel that to keep the agreement with her, if it is necessary, this part of the talk (that violates the agreement) should be deleted. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 10:37, 7 August 2011 (PDT)
:::*Speaking of that, he's saying that they ''had'' dated (calling her his "ex-girlfriend" in the video). Would it be safer to go ahead and change her name to "The Wallflower"?--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 18:41, 7 August 2011 (PDT)
::*So is linking from a ''Wallflower'' page (or from a ''Wallflower'' section of another page) to this page also verboten? --[[User:BrianBash|BrianBash]] 20:26, 7 August 2011 (PDT)
:::*If you mean linking The Wallflower's real name or reference to her to The Wallflower page, then yes, that is forbidden. I'd say same goes with any modifier, like if we were to link "ex-girlfriend" to [[The Wallflower]], pretty much anything that connects that person's name with the status of the Wallflower. Now personally, it's getting kinda silly because Chris keeps dropping her name BUT nonetheless we have an agreement to keep and we're not total jackasses. Her name should definitely remain in the transcript though, accurate transcription is crucial. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:57, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

== Spoiling the Fun ==
After seeing him demand money, I just had to respond to him directly. I sent him the following PM.

<blockquote><TT>
On the threshold of legal trouble. 
>"But anyway, moving on with my demands, I would like- also like you to set to-send me via U.S. Mail, ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS CASH. American. Unmarked billssss," 

You do realize that Extortion is a crime. Doing so through the United States Postal Service crossing state lines makes it a federally prosecutable offense. You'd be wise to remove your "Calling Out" videos before they get mirrored and used against you in a court of law. 
</TT></blockquote>
[[User:LordCustos3|LordCustos3]] 09:36, 8 August 2011 (PDT)
: User was banned for this post. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 10:28, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

Congratulations. You're one of many people being made fun of on /cwc/ at this precise moment. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 09:37, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

==Thorg = Thorgnzorrg==
I'm pretty sure that ''Thorg'' is actually [[User:Thorgnzorrg]]. Can we mention it, for the sake of being good, clear and trustworthy source of informations of Chris' lifetime? [[User:Hasharin|Hasharin]] 13:31, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

*Nah don't bother linking that, just make me a small page or something. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]]

== Calling Out Alex ==

Uh, I know this is silly to ask, but should we leave that he's used [censored] for this?--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 16:12, 9 August 2011 (PDT)
:* You need to read Anonymax's 16:34, 6 August 2011 reply to the thread at the top of the page. Basically, don't go posting shit about alleged identities of trolls. As for the link to the pic, Imma cuttin it down. --[[User:BrianBash|BrianBash]] 16:28, 9 August 2011 (PDT)

Talk:August 2011

2011-08-09T06:25:42Z

Thorgnzorrg:

==Surfshack Don==
Someone added info about someone coming forward as Tito and apologizing to Chris. While there is no proof at all that this man ''is'' the actual Tito, I think it should be removed as it is just a theory.

Edited the grammar errors regardless. [[User:CompyRex|CompyRex]] 20:01, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

*I got rid of the whole fucking thing, and don't let me see this shit on the CWCki again. You'll know if it's Tito or I. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 23:25, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

August 2011

2011-08-09T06:24:26Z

Thorgnzorrg: Get this faggot spergshit off of here and don't let me see anything like this on here again.

[[File:CWC0811.PNG|thumb|Chris in August 2011]]

'''August 2011''' began with Chris and his [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia|tom-pals]] planning vengeance against the CWCki.

==Events==

*August 6: Chris makes his official return to the internet after an eight month absence, uploading [[Calling Out|three videos]] in which he calls out trolls [[Surfshack Tito]] and [[Thorg]], in which he claimed to have their dox.

{{Timeline}}
[[Category:Chronology]]

User:Thorgnzorrg

2011-08-09T03:22:51Z

Thorgnzorrg:

{| class="infobox" style="width: 21em; font-size: 90%;"
|-
! colspan="2" | Troll
|-
| colspan="2" | [[Image:Thorg.jpg|230px]]
|-
! colspan="2" |Thorgnzorrg
|-
| '''Aliases'''
| [[User:Thorgnzorrg/Jessica Cash|Jessica Cash]], [[Mailbag|Thorgnzorrg Jenkins]], [[Trollin Train|Jeff Mars]],
|-
| '''D.O.B.'''
| 8 August
|-
| '''Gender'''
| Male
|-
| '''Nationality'''
| Canadian
|-
| '''Race'''
| White
|-
| '''Religion'''
| Pizza-faced ATHEIST
|-
| '''Domain'''
| PVCC
|-
|-
|}

I will not rest until Christian Weston Chandler is exposed for what he truly is: a monster.

{{Collapsible|Userboxes n' Shit|
{{OperationMailbag}}{{Cursed}}<ref>http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:No_Silence.jpg</ref>
{{Artfag}}{{Honorary}}{{PVCC}}{{Atheist}}
}}

==References==

<references/>

User:Thorgnzorrg

2011-08-09T03:22:31Z

Thorgnzorrg:

{| class="infobox" style="width: 21em; font-size: 90%;"
|-
! colspan="2" | Troll
|-
| colspan="2" | [[Image:Thorg.jpg|230px]]
|-
! colspan="2" |Thorgnzorrg
|-
| '''Aliases'''
| [[User:Thorgnzorrg/Jessica Cash|Jessica Cash]], [[Mailbag|Thorgnzorrg Jenkins]], [[Trollin Train|Jeff Mars]],
|-
| '''D.O.B.'''
| 8 August
|-
| '''Gender'''
| Male
|-
| '''Nationality'''
| Canadian
|-
| '''Race'''
| White
|-
| '''Religion'''
| None
|-
| '''Domain'''
| PVCC
|-
|-
|}

I will not rest until Christian Weston Chandler is exposed for what he truly is: a monster.

{{Collapsible|Userboxes n' Shit|
{{OperationMailbag}}{{Cursed}}<ref>http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/File:No_Silence.jpg</ref>
{{Artfag}}{{Honorary}}{{PVCC}}{{Atheist}}
}}

==References==

<references/>

Talk:Calling Out

2011-08-08T22:45:18Z

Thorgnzorrg: /* Thorg = Thorgnzorrg */

{{Not_A_Forum}}

transcribing--[[User:Crooked tooth|Crooked tooth]] 12:42, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
Sorry i cant transcribe my computer is fucking up--[[User:Crooked tooth|Crooked tooth]] 15:24, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
The ''Calling Out "Tito" - Don'' video says it's unavailable =/ --[[User:Elliebytes|Elliebytes]] 12:53, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
:At the moment there is a problem with the video (probably Chris being a dumbass). It's viewable on his YouTube channel page, and I'm about to upload a backup until we can get it on the CWCVilleLibrary. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 12:54, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

Do we really want to be talking about the pix on here? Someone might read it. -[[User:BrianBash|BrianBash]] 15:35, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
: We won't know the true authenticity of the photos until Chris surrenders them. Until such a time, please refrain from theories as to who might be depicted in the photos. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 16:34, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

== Tomboy/Tomgirl forum ==

I cannot believe that stalking him actually lured him out of his "retirement."

== Hiatus Stats ==

This video hiatus from November 22, 2010 to August 6, 2011 was '''257 days long.'''

This is not Chris's longest hiatus from Youtube. The gap between [[Captain's Log, Stardate November 7th, 2007]] and [[Captain's Log, Stardate August 3rd, 2008]] was '''270 days long'''.

*I used the date calculator on timeanddate.com to compile this and I did not include the end date. I don't know if this belong on the actual Calling Out page or somewhere else. So I'm just writing it here for reference. Feel free to add the info to this or another article. -- [[User:Crow|Crow]] 18:28, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

Went ahead and added this to the [[Chris and the Internet]] page. [[User:Dantz|Dantz]] 20:18, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

== Billboard, events, and Heather ==

Chris mentions being on a billboard in New York. Do we have any pictures of that? Do we have any information at all about the previous events to lead up to this?? And is the Heather he spoke of "Wallflower". If so, I think it's note-worthy that we mention that he still says they were dating at one point when she has said before (multiple times) that they weren't. If it isn't Wallflower...we need to find out who the heck she is. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 22:15, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
: Yes, yes, and yes. And yes: Chris is delusional.--[[User:Henry Bemis|Henry Bemis]] 22:29, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

:: To answer your questions, Vans shoes had some promotion at the end of 2009 where people could submit photos that would go up on a billboard in Times Square. There were over 4 submitted of Chris by various trolls. The pics are probably somewhere, but I can't find them... Also, for the record, the Wallflower has a standing agreement with the CWCki not to be publicly identified. she shall be referred to only as the Wallflower, as we are true and honest, unlike Chris. --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 22:45, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

::*I haven't gotten a chance to closely watch the videos, but how to handle the mention of the Wallflower is addressed [[CWCki:The Wallflower|here]]. Her name stays in the transcript but there's to be no linking and such. Also, the billboard images are [[20_December_2009|here]].--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:23, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
:::* Ah, I apologize for my naivety on this matter. I feel that to keep the agreement with her, if it is necessary, this part of the talk (that violates the agreement) should be deleted. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 10:37, 7 August 2011 (PDT)
:::*Speaking of that, he's saying that they ''had'' dated (calling her his "ex-girlfriend" in the video). Would it be safer to go ahead and change her name to "The Wallflower"?--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 18:41, 7 August 2011 (PDT)
::*So is linking from a ''Wallflower'' page (or from a ''Wallflower'' section of another page) to this page also verboten? --[[User:BrianBash|BrianBash]] 20:26, 7 August 2011 (PDT)
:::*If you mean linking The Wallflower's real name or reference to her to The Wallflower page, then yes, that is forbidden. I'd say same goes with any modifier, like if we were to link "ex-girlfriend" to [[The Wallflower]], pretty much anything that connects that person's name with the status of the Wallflower. Now personally, it's getting kinda silly because Chris keeps dropping her name BUT nonetheless we have an agreement to keep and we're not total jackasses. Her name should definitely remain in the transcript though, accurate transcription is crucial. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:57, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

== Spoiling the Fun ==
After seeing him demand money, I just had to respond to him directly. I sent him the following PM.

<blockquote><TT>
On the threshold of legal trouble. 
>"But anyway, moving on with my demands, I would like- also like you to set to-send me via U.S. Mail, ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS CASH. American. Unmarked billssss," 

You do realize that Extortion is a crime. Doing so through the United States Postal Service crossing state lines makes it a federally prosecutable offense. You'd be wise to remove your "Calling Out" videos before they get mirrored and used against you in a court of law. 
</TT></blockquote>
[[User:LordCustos3|LordCustos3]] 09:36, 8 August 2011 (PDT)
: User was banned for this post. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 10:28, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

Congratulations. You're one of many people being made fun of on /cwc/ at this precise moment. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 09:37, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

==Thorg = Thorgnzorrg
I'm pretty sure that ''Thorg'' is actually [[User:Thorgnzorrg]]. Can we mention it, for the sake of being good, clear and trustworthy source of informations of Chris' lifetime? [[User:Hasharin|Hasharin]] 13:31, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

*Nah don't bother linking that, just make me a small page or something. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]]

User talk:Champthom

2011-08-06T14:28:18Z

Thorgnzorrg:

Talk to me.

Be sure to check out the archives as well:

'''Archive:''' [[User:Champthom/Archive 1|1]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 2|2]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 3|3]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 4|4]] [[User:Champthom/Archive 5|5]]

==Champ tomas==

okay like i'll have all the subtitles backed up on my hd so far, did you have i have like 8gb of cwc shit on my computer? yeah i know right. so anywayyyy i have decided to credit ppl on both the caption titles (for example, "iamstraight by champthom") and the video descriptions for double the fun!!also if i can't upload the subtitles i can ask tito to. i should be fine though. [[User:Abejita Cortez|Abejita Cortez]] 19:09, 17 February 2011 (PST)

== PSN Tracker ==

I'm not sure if you're the right person to ask, but I recently got Chris to add me on the PSN.
How would I contribute to the PSN tracker? [[User:Dillon627|Dillon627]] 09:19, 22 February 2011 (PST)
*edit the psn tracker? i think anyone can edit it bro -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 10:42, 22 February 2011 (PST)
* http://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Template:PSNTracker&action=edit here you go -- [[User:Clydec|Clyde]] 10:43, 22 February 2011 (PST)
Thanks. I'll try to start updating it when I can. [[User:Dillon627|Dillon627]] 12:12, 22 February 2011 (PST)

== I apologize ==

I apologize for doing something wrong while transcribing Kacey Call 8. I want you to know that I am currently still working on the transcript, but as you can imagine, it is not walk in the park... It's a little over 35 minutes long and I'm sure you know how hard it is to transcribe audio. I also want you to know that I will try to do better in the future. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 16:34, 4 March 2011 (PST)
*I do appreciate the effort, I do ask though you add [[:Template:Transcription|this template]] to pages that aren't completely transcribed. That way, people can pick up the slack so it's not all on you. I do appreciate your work and I hope you continue transcribing. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:51, 4 March 2011 (PST)
::Thanks for deleting the thinger-ma-bobber. Now that I look back at the edits, that should've been obvious..but I fail at computer stuff as it is so I'll blame it on that. :P --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 18:51, 6 March 2011 (PST)

== Re:Comic Categories ==

Sounds like a good idea.--[[User:Trombonista|trombonista]] 18:02, 4 March 2011 (PST)

== Always here ==

Wallflower policy here: http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Talk:The_Wallflower#Stating_CWCki_Policy

I have never left, friend. I merely got a new job that causes me to work long hours. Once my time becomes free-er and my heart level recovers from Mumble translations, I shall return full-time. I still check here once a day or more.

Want a pizza roll? Message me if you want a pizza roll. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 19:06, 7 March 2011 (PST)

:Edit: I'll post it in the right place later tonight. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 19:17, 7 March 2011 (PST)
:*Just did it dude, thanks for the help. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:17, 7 March 2011 (PST)

==Anything I can do at the moment?==

I've watched the CWCki for a while now and now that I've joined, I'd like to know if there is anything specific I can help with. Thanks. --[[user:Ctahu|Ctahu]] [[User_talk:Ctahu|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Ctahu|c)]] 17:50, 19 April 2011 (EST)

==Can do==
Sorry I took so long to reply, it was 3AM here when you left the message and I just got it. I'll keep IRC open for whenever you're available. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 07:10, 23 April 2011 (PDT)

== Love ==

Champ,

Just when everyone- EVERYONE- thought Chris had shriveled up, dried out like a prune and flat out fucking died- you [[Tomgirl_Pictures|delivered]]. Technically it was Freecell who uploaded them and obviously some [[troll|beautiful, honest woman]] persuaded him to do this, but in my reality Champthom knows all, sees all... so yeah.

Holy shit. Honestly, if we get nothing else for 2011...

... I want you bad.

--[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 08:17, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

== Possible new article ==

I noticed after I signed up a couple weeks ago that the articles on the retconned Asperchu characters were an absolute clusterfuck, so I've been experimenting in my [[User:Old meme/Sandbox|sandbox]] for a while now on merging the [[Chaotic Combo (Asperchu)]], [[Basement Rosechus]] and [[Mitch Sonichu]] pages. I added some new images and had Freecell look at it and make his own additions, and he thinks it's ready for the main namespace. Obviously though, that will involve moving pages and fixing broken redirects, and being the boss around here you get the final say. When I was working on this, the title I had in mind was "Asperchu parodies", but that's just my suggestion. Have a look at it and tell me what you think. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:19, 17 May 2011 (PDT)
*I've seen it, it's pretty good, but not sure about the name, as they're "parodies" in the same way Sonichu is a "parody" (which is, not really). Come up with a better name and we might be able to do something. Perhaps if you post on the portal [[CWCki:General|here]] you could get some feedback. Nice work though, keep it up.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:25, 17 May 2011 (PDT)
*Thanks. I'll do that now. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:32, 20 May 2011 (PDT)
*Champthom ma boi, that message has been on the community portal for four days and I don't think anyone has noticed it. Do you want to come up with an article name yourself? Only I want to get this page up so I can start using my sandbox for other purposes. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:16, 24 May 2011 (PDT)
*Thanks again. Tell me when you have a title for the page. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:15, 27 May 2011 (PDT)

Yo Champ! It's been nearly a month now. Have you got a title for me yet? I spent quite a while on that article and I want to see it up soon. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 09:33, 14 June 2011 (PDT)
*Holy crap, thanks for reminding me dude. Alec's suggestion is kinda lame, too wordy - "Alternate interpretations of Sonichu characters" (I think he might have misunderstood me), I think "Asperchu parodies" might work. Man, I am awful at procrastination, lol. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:05, 14 June 2011 (PDT)
*It's up now, and looking good. Thanks for sorting everything out Champ. Now to get to work on another merged page about Chris's shitty transformers. This will take a while. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:07, 17 June 2011 (PDT)
*Oh, and while I'm here, a couple of weeks ago I decided to rewrite the [[Sonichu (game)]] page. I only just realised after looking back on it that I subconsciously created another merged page while doing so. I condensed [[Pokémon: Lightning Version]], [[Sonichu Adventure]] and [[Sonichu Advance]] into that one page. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing, but take a look at it and fix it as you see fit. I didn't even know until now that I did that. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:17, 17 June 2011 (PDT)

==RE:==
Don't worry about it. I'm just sorry I wasn't online to see it sooner. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 08:31, 26 May 2011 (PDT)

Glad I was able to help since I missed the show. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:12, 26 May 2011 (PDT)

== I suck donkey balls ==
I was trying to upload a new version of [[:File:Prowl prower.jpg|this file]] and make it into [[:File:File-Prowl prower.jpg|this file]] so I could use it in an article. Somewhere down the line, I fucked up. The first one now displays the old image in file mode and the new image as a thumb on article pages, while the new one has a fucked up name that I think was automatically assigned when I tried to upload a new version of the other one. Please fix this for me? kthnx. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 14:50, 21 June 2011 (PDT)

== Check out this shit ==
I feel it's getting to the point where I'm just spamming with the ammount of times I keep asking you to look at a new article in my sandbox. Regardless, you said you wanted me to have a look at maybe rewriting the templates for the sagas and the like. I plan on doing so, along with a few other templates while I'm at it, but I am on my third sandbox already and I think making a fourth would be pushing it at this point. Even if I wasn't though, I think now would be a good time to show them to you because I am just about done. I'm awaiting Freecell's revisions for some of them, but he's taking a while and I'm sure whatever problems he would find, you would also. Anyway, here's [[User:Old meme/Sandbox|the first]]. It's a reworking of the [[Samurai Pizza Bots]] page and it merges [[Prower]] and [[Armoraxe]] into it as well, so we have a page on the entire team instead of a few pages on some of them. The [[User:Old meme/Sandbox 2|second one]] is a rewrite of the [[Decepti-Clone]] article, which has a bad name anyway because Decepti-Clone is the name for evil robots in general, but the page is about S.A.V.s. In my revision, I merged the original page with [[Jerkop Punislav]] and [[Crackder]] so it's actually about Decepti-Clones in general rather than just one type. I would suggest the name of the actual title for this page be [[Decepti-Clones]] plural. Just sayin'. [[User:Old meme/Sandbox 3|Sandbox 3]] is just a rewrite of [[Sarah Hammer]], but I sandboxed it instead of just rewriting the article as normal because I also merged [[Queen of the Cherokian Clan]] into it, because she is literally a one panel character with no more importance at all. Anyway, I'm submitting all of these for approval, and I promise you that after this and the [[Sonichu (game)]] mergings are over, I'll stop merging so much shit and creating more work for you for a while. I'll take a break and work on those templates instead. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:21, 24 June 2011 (PDT)
*Dude, I have bad news for you - I am the world's worst procrastinator. I put off EVERYTHING until the last minute, so if I don't reply to your message right away, that's probably because I'm on the Internet dicking around. I also work at night and sleep during the day most of the week, so on those days I maybe get to check the CWCki for 10, 15 minutes and that's mostly to see if anyone has been vandalizing. Anyways, your articles - your first one, on the Samurai Pizza Bots is pretty alright. My only complaint is the tone, it's rather informal. Now mind you, I don't mind that tone sometimes and I think some articles get away with it but I know that some people prefer a more formal tone and I believe their argument has merit. I have the next few days off, I'll see what I can do to critque your article and give you some ways to improve it. Your Decepti-Clones article seems better than the one we have, but I'll give it another look, it has a lot of details from the comic that I need to refresh to see the context (the later comics I mostly skimmed because Chris stopped giving a shit at that point). I really need to wait on seeing the Sarah Hammer article, that is yours versus the one we have as I don't want to get the two confused. Like I said, I can critque your articles for you. You don't have to work on those templates or the saga stuff if you don't want to, I usually say that when people ask "Why don't we have x?" I say "Because you haven't made it yet!" You're obviously a very dedicated wiki editor which I like and I expect great things from you, just keep up the good work and bear with me.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:42, 24 June 2011 (PDT)
**I appreciate it Champ. I'm only on here a few days a week anyway, I figure while I am I may as well fix things up. No need to rush anything here, I can wait. There are plenty of other articles I could be working on that don't require the sandbox. Plus Freecell still needs to make his edits before this is moved to the main namespace. I'll take the formality thing into consideration and see if I can make the article a bit more serious when I do the spellchecking. And honestly, I do want to give the templates an overhaul. Some of them are laughably outdated compared to some of the articles using them. I think Dethchemist was actually working on some templates too, but I don't know if he still is or not. Either way, leave me a message on my talk page when you get around to reading the stuff, and I'll make the appropriate corrections. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 09:22, 24 June 2011 (PDT)
**Made some updates. Tell me what you think. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:56, 25 June 2011 (PDT)

==k==
Trying to do, but whenever I make an account it refuses the username/password combination and says I have no method of recovering it. I'll let it sit for a while and try again. Alternatively, I'll be in IRC if that's easier for you. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 09:16, 14 July 2011 (PDT)

== Champthom my homie ==
Wha's cracking y'all? I thought I'd drop by and remind you like always to look over my sandbox pages, already linked to above, because you said you would but then you did something else and forgot them. Not sayin' I blame y'all, but I'm here to remind you anyway, because you need reminding. They're merged pages for the transformers articles and one on Sarah Hammer fyi. Alright, that's it for now. I got things to do an' shit. Talk later, kay? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 01:29, 15 July 2011 (PDT)

You know, if you don't have the time or don't want to do it, I could always add the new pages and create the redirects myself? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 03:53, 26 July 2011 (PDT)
*[[THAT IS MY HOUSE|I'M WORKIN' ON IT!]]. Seriously, I'll give it a look tonight or tomorrow.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:08, 26 July 2011 (PDT)
**Well, you said you would, so I can only assume you did. Was the page okay? Just give me a yes or no answer, and if it's a yes, I promise I'll do all the work and sort it out myself. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:49, 29 July 2011 (PDT)
:::*Here's what I say - just make the changes, if people don't like it they can change it back. RPOBLEM OSLVED.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:51, 29 July 2011 (PDT)
::::*KAY MAN. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:52, 29 July 2011 (PDT)

==New members==
I figured I'd let you know that a lot of people from /cwc/ have it in their head that the best course of action right now is to raid the CWCki in the name of the tomgirls. We're working on a similar plan right now but it needs to be taken one step at a time, not jumped into. So I'd keep an eye on any new members, just in case. It's possible they'll do something stupid. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 12:28, 22 July 2011 (PDT)
*Well main page templates have all been protected for the next week, that's usually what they target first. It's possible that new people are joining because there's new content, but I have considered the possibility of the attack, hence the protection. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:17, 22 July 2011 (PDT)

==Templates==
<nowiki>Yo. I've just been using {{subst:welcome}} instead of {{welcome}}. I'll switch to {{welcome}} if you want.</nowiki> --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 22:19, 22 July 2011 (PDT)

==Page Format==
I've done a couple page cleanups over the last few days, and I got to thinking about the common nit-picks I have. There's good info in the Help pages on how to format dates, when to pipe, etc., but there's no real place to go to see a model 'page layout.' I started a [[User:Dude/Guide_to_Style|formatting guide]] (improperly labeled 'style' guide, at the moment) as a subpage of my user page. Take a look, and feel free to use it as the nucleus for a new help page. --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 23:25, 24 July 2011 (PDT)
*Not bad, it's definitely something we could use. I would suggest looking up how Wikipedia does things, as that tends to be the standard for wikis (for instance, standard for pics are right aligned when possible). Pretty much I'd recommend fleshing it out with stuff from Wikipedia's article layout guide (remember, it's Creative Commons so you can pretty much copy paste it, ideally source it as well) and obviously adapt it to the CWCki's needs.

:To be honest, I came up with the "Sauces" thing since that's how most people who frequent this site talk - they'll say "sauce plz" HOWEVER if you and other people think it should be "References", I'm cool with that.

:Keep up the good work man.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:50, 25 July 2011 (PDT)

::HA! I thought if anybody would hate the ''sauces'' it would be you, man ;-) It doesn't really matter to me, though I prefer Refs. --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 18:51, 25 July 2011 (PDT)

==Just got your message==
I've been unwell for the past few days and still am. I'll leave IRC open if you're still wanting to talk, but I'm mostly going to be away from my computer so I may not be able to get back to you for a few hours. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 13:48, 27 July 2011 (PDT)

==I'm sorry to neg you..==
But can you please edit [[Template:Da Update|Da Update]] to include Liquid closing his YouTube account? I don't have permission to edit that template and I think this item is newsworthy, plus it might lead to Chris proclaiming victory on YouTube or something like that after seeing that his old foe's YouTube account is gone. -- [[User:NegaCWC]]
*I agree that it's newsworthy, though it's unlikely Chris gives enough of a fuck anymore. Liquid got what he wanted, Chris lost and moved on. It sounds like you're trying to use the CWCki to troll Chris though. There's a stigma against that, non? [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 22:45, 27 July 2011 (PDT)
**Yeah I know that the CWCki shouldn't be used as a trolling tool, I'm asking for it to be put on Da Update because I think it needs to be there regardless of Chris's possible reacion, even if we found out that Chris is dead by now I think it should be there. Sorry that I didn't sign my previous edit BTW. --[[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 00:25, 28 July 2011 (PDT)
::*I'm sorry but Da update is strictly for Chris related updates. Unless Chris manages to react to the account closing, it definitely has no place in da update. Besides, it leads to a slippery slope - one could argue then that we include any update any past troll of Chris does on their YouTube accounts and that would be silly. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:00, 28 July 2011 (PDT)
:::*I don't really have an opinion either way, but I don't know if it would necessarily lead to stalking all Chris related youtube accounts. Liquid is a bit more important than other troll youtube accounts because that saga happened primarily via youtube. It might be a milestone we'd want to make note of. [[User:Canine|Canine]] 06:03, 28 July 2011 (PDT)
::::*But, was there an update when the Asperpedia was shut down? If so, then editing Da Update to include the closing of Liquid's account wouldn't be totally unprecedented. If not, then I agree, it's a slippery slope. [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 06:50, 28 July 2011 (PDT)
:::::*Remember though people, da update is essentially about Chris. People check it out to see what Chris is up to. Da update really shouldn't be what other trolls are up to, as people who are curious about the trolls themselves usually manage to find out about them themselves. I have no problem with this information being incorporated into the [[Liquid Chris]] page if it hasn't already, as obviously it's relevant. However, it's not da update worthy because it's not about Chris. While it won't necessarily lead to stalking other trolls, it will set a precedent for it. People will say "Oh, [[Vivian]] has started a side project, let's include that in the update" or "[[Jack Thaddeus]] posted something on some Internet forum, let's include that in da update." I'm careful when it comes to establishing precedents, which is why including Liquid's account closing would set a bad one.
::::::As I see it, people who want this in da update 1) want to troll Chris for it or 2) feel that we need to update da update because it's been too long. As many people will back me up on this, the CWCki isn't a way to troll Chris, that's to protect our asses if shit ever goes down. Even if we are to update it to troll Chris, I very, very, VERY much doubt he would care and I have sufficient knowledge of Chris to know this. Chris will probably have no clue who "Liquid Chris" is, and even if he realizes it's the "impostor" he'll just remind himself how he won the [[Singstar Challenge]] (at least, HE believes he did) and is therefore the TRUE and HONEST Christian Chandler, or at least the Christian Weston Chandler who was born Christopher. Second point, I don't think there's anything wrong with not updating da update. If nothing happens with Chris, so be it. Da update reflects what da update is and if there is no update, well, [[Chris Calls Clyde Out|tough cookies]]. Da update should not be cheapen by updating it for the sake of updating it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:21, 28 July 2011 (PDT)

==WHAT?!==
YOU MEAN YOU'VE [[Help:So, you've been banned...|BEEN ABLE TO BAN PEOPLE FOR GENERAL FAGGOTRY THIS WHOLE TIME]] AND YOU NEVER ONCE THOUGHT TO GET RID OF FAGGOTS LIKE ICONOCLAST?!

I've got to say Champ, I'm more than a little disapointed by this. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 07:52, 28 July 2011 (PDT)
*I don't ban people unless they've actually done something against the CWCki (i.e. vandalized it) or their presence is so disruptive to the CWCki that people are spending more resources trolling said person than editing the CWCki (like with 16BitAlex). "General faggotry" is more of an exception clause, because there's usually exceptions to the rules. I try to be fair and just with everyone when it comes to bannings, and I won't ban anyone who edits in good faith.
:Just chillax man.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:58, 28 July 2011 (PDT)
::But still, you missed so many great opportunities with this! The people we could have gotten rid of! The unnecessary drama we could have avoided! Alex was totally acceptable to ban! Yet you didn't do that until he requested it himself! You need to start being harsher with your punishments. Keep that pimp hand strong. Or at least give me a promotion so I can be harsh for you. I promise I won't go crazy and ban all the furfags. Or Clyde. Unless you want me to. Which you should seriously consider by the way. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:09, 28 July 2011 (PDT)

==T&T Page==

Hey, the protection on the T&T page is up. Could you revert the edits to the 22nd and lock it again? Just in case, it's best to keep the article static until this is all over. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 19:17, 29 July 2011 (PDT)

==Yo==
Hey, I saw you were on earlier and protected a page. If you're still online, jump on IRC real fast. Otherwise, I'll look for you another time. --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 21:02, 29 July 2011 (PDT)

==Chibbity Champthom==
I sent you a PM on PVCC but you're here more so hit me up homedog. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 07:28, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

User talk:BrianBash

2011-07-31T02:55:40Z

Thorgnzorrg: Created page with "I don't know what you're talking about buy my only edit was removing the Youtube line because it's a confirmed glitch. The only time Chris logged into youtube between now and whe..."

I don't know what you're talking about buy my only edit was removing the Youtube line because it's a confirmed glitch. The only time Chris logged into youtube between now and when he quit youtube was to delete the account. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 19:55, 30 July 2011 (PDT)

July 2011

2011-07-31T02:54:19Z

Thorgnzorrg:

[[File:CWCJuly2011.jpg|thumb|The king is back.]]
'''July 2011''' began with a new voicemail message.

==Events==

* 2 July: Chris changes his [[voicemail message]] again.
* 5 July: An apparently legit new [[Facebook]] account surfaces.<ref>[[:File:Chrisfacebook2011.png]]</ref>
* 7 July: ... and then quickly disappears.
* 20 July: Chris's participation in the [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]] forum is discovered.
* 21 July: Chris reveals his identity in a Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia post.
* 27 July: The TRUE and HONEST [[Liquid Chris|Christian Weston Chandler]] shuts down his YouTube account. Luckily for us, his videos are all [http://www.youtube.com/user/TheCWCvilleLibrary#g/c/51E59E5BF480DBD4 archived] on the [[CWCville Library]].

==References==

<references/>

{{Timeline}}
[[Category:Chronology]]

User talk:CompyRex

2011-07-30T06:02:41Z

Thorgnzorrg:

Playing it cool involves leaving the CWCki article alone, the only reason anyone was able to edit it was because the protection reached its limit and it was unlocked automatically. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 21:08, 29 July 2011 (PDT)
*Understood, thanks for telling me. [[User:CompyRex|CompyRex]] 21:10, 29 July 2011 (PDT)
*No worries. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 23:02, 29 July 2011 (PDT)

July 2011

2011-07-30T06:01:52Z

Thorgnzorrg: I don't know how many times it was stated on /cwc/ that it was a glitch, with evidence proving it, but it was a glitch.

Talk:It took a talking bear to give the name a young boy loves

2011-07-30T06:00:03Z

Thorgnzorrg: /* Title name */

Okay, I smell a mess here: on this article, we are told that Chris met GodBear in 1992. In the article [[Christopher's name change]], it tells us no date for the meeting but tells us that the name was changed in 1994.
On the big timeline, Chris met GodBear in [[1989]]. So, what is canon and what we need to adjust here? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 01:33, 11 October 2009 (CEST)Griffintown

*I'm not sure what is right and what isn't. I included a reference for the article link that was posted in cwc for people to look over and determine what's actually going on. [[User:Alteceastlansing|Alteceastlansing]] 01:47, 11 October 2009 (CEST)
:*Well obviously go off this article. It's from 1993, from an actual reliable source (i.e. newspaper) as opposed to Chris's warped personal history, and Chris has a fuzzy memory for time. He's often off by weeks or months in videos, he thinks that he's been trolled for three years (only two), he thought Ivy died last year (only this July), and he apparently got the date wrong in his PS3 history level. We learn more things, we revise things as we learn them. Remember, [[CWCki:NAR|CWCki is not always right]]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:20, 11 October 2009 (CEST)
*At this moment, both dates are in the [[CWChronology]], with short references to eachother. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 07:50, 11 October 2009 (CEST)

== formatting ==

maybe we should have a nice way of formatting newspaper articles, with a nice serif font and grey background and justified spacing and shit --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 02:35, 11 October 2009 (CEST)
: Okay, here's a quick one, <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Quotenews|quotenews]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki>. Feel free to tweak it. Enjoy, folks! --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 11:03, 12 October 2009 (CEST)

== Chris was not that slow-in-the-mind back then? ==

In the article, Chris is 11, and is "intellectually 12 or 13". Since child IQ is 100 times intellectual age over chronological age, this puts Chris's IQ at roughly 110 back then. Just a little note. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 03:19, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

:*Except that he's now about seven years old mentally. Which, using the formula, puts his IQ at ((100x7)/28) = 25. Actually, that makes sense.

:** You have to remember to: back then Chris's mind was still growing and he was actually being challenged intellectually by school. After a decade of doing nothing besides playing video games and masturbating, his brain probably lost a good amount of its functionality form inactivity. Chris might have actually had the chance to be a genius, but his laziness and refusal to be challenged destroyed what little chance he had at improving his mind. --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 10:29, 26 May 2010 (EST)
:***Well, considering he has a singular lack of talent in all elements of the wide field of human endeavours and displays, in fact, aptitude with '''absolutely nothing at all''', I can't say that I disagree.--[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 14:46, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

==Title name==

Does the name of the title have to be in all caps? Even though it was printed that way, I don't think it means the author intended it to be reproduced in all caps. I'm thinking about moving it to a regularly capitalized title. [[User:Chaosakita|ChaosAkita]] 22:05, 29 July 2011 (PDT)

That's how it was published, why change it? --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 23:00, 29 July 2011 (PDT)

User talk:CompyRex

2011-07-30T04:08:12Z

Thorgnzorrg: Created page with "Playing it cool involves leaving the CWCki article alone, the only reason anyone was able to edit it was because the protection reached its limit and it was unlocked automaticall..."

Talk:Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia

2011-07-30T02:28:37Z

Thorgnzorrg:

I think this needs further wikifying, and we need to update other pages accordingly to reference this. This forum contains the use of several CWC-isms we haven't seen for a while, and it also makes the first reference to Dating Education or Chris's parents since GodJesus knows when. I also need to ask whether or not an "analysis" section summarising everything we learned about Chris from this would be overdoing it or not? Just something about the footnotes style of things like the google search information stuck between posts just makes the page seem messy to me. Also, whoever it was who came up with this forum and set it up, I will personally fly over to wherever you live and give you a blowjob for this. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:51, 20 July 2011 (PDT)

Would it be presumptuous to say this could be a troll? Was there any conclusive evidence that it's not babby's first "Lol if I copy Chris' mannerisms then I can be epin"? Consider: less sporadic Use of Capital Letters, being as blatant as possible without screaming "I'M CHRIS" and no corroborating evidence to suggest it's him. Barring chats with *redacted* being released (if only) or the Dilluminati confirming I would take this with a grain of salt. [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 07:59, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
*Maybe Chris is *gasp* CHANGING. Seriously, this is Chris. I don't tolerate fake shit on the CWCki. As much as PVCC would like to, I would not allow them to post something from Chris unless it actually was (and this is actually from Chris). Seriously, you people who think that someone is Chris just because they have a similar name to a user name is Chris, yet something that actually with Chris arouses skepticism. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:49, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
* *snipped* [[User:Canine|Canine]] 09:38, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
*Sir I am both shocked ''and'' appalled that you would even question the validity of this bountiful harvest of Chris stuff. MAYBE I'LL JUST HAUL IT ALL BACK TO PVCC AND GIVE IT TO A TROLL WHO WILL APPRECIATE IT? --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 11:10, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
** I concede defeat. Sorry Champthom. Sorry Thrognzorrg. The months have been cruel. [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 14:54, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
*Thanks Thorgnzorrg, this is a riot. The profile information Chris has for Kookydashy is pretty hilarious so I threw a quick pic at the introduction. [[User:Westbound|Westbound]] 13:44, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
*Congratulations on finding Chris and updating Da Update. [[User:Barachulove|Barachulove]] 18:19, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
**Thanks everyone, Chris should know that he can never hide from me. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 18:41, 20 July 2011 (PDT)

Does anyone else think his AppleJack icon warrants a mention on the MLP article? --[[User:parlortrix|parlortrix]] 20:47, 28 July 2011 (CST)
*It ''is'' mentioned in the MLP article. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 19:13, 28 July 2011 (PDT)

== The Pictures ==

Not that it really really pertains to Chris, but for validity's sake...aren't both "pictures" of Suchin... Suchin gives us the first picture and the Tippy says that he/she got a picture to remember the night... I'm assuming it's OF Suchin, not of Tippy. I'm going to change the name under the picture, if I'm wrong, please feel free to correct me. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 12:21, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
*Both pictures are Suchin. Tippy made the post in which the secont Suchin picture was posted. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 12:31, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
** The picture said Tippy so I changed it. That's what I was referring to. Unless it was Tippy after he put on Suchin's lingerie...they said they'd share (or more accurately Suchin liked to share). --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 12:42, 20 July 2011 (PDT)

== Fingernail ==

"I even had to have a fingernail replaced in surgery years ago; it is growing in well, even though slower than the other nine." - someone should go through all past videos frame-by-frame to find out which fingernail it is, this is important -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 14:23, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
:: I tried...I really did, but the only guess I have is his right ring fingernail. I'm assuming that even though it grows at a slower rate Chris is able to keep his nails relatively the same length by biting and or clipping them. A few of his videos that show his hands (there aren't that many actually), along with some of the TomGirl photos show that more often then not, it's the ring finger on his right hand that is the shortest. Of course, like I said, it's very possible that because he's a nail biter we will never be able to tell their growth rates. So unless someone can find better evidence, I'm going with that answer. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 18:57, 27 July 2011 (PDT)

== Who's the gal-pal? ==

He mentions discussing things with his "closest gal-pal". Was that a troll who had been speaking to him privately, or is someone in he knows real life going along with this? --[[User:Elias|Elias]] 15:28, 20 July 2011 (PDT)

== Play it cool, Chris is on to us ==

He knows that we know about Tomboys and Tomgirls. I thought that it would be ok to make an article since he quit the internet but clearly he's been spying on the CWCki. Just play it cool for now, who knows what he's going to do. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 18:38, 20 July 2011 (PDT)

He's done exactly what he always does- whine about it and ask that the forum be his personal army. I'd transcribe the topic, but I'm too lazy to do so right now. Chris' last post was five days ago, so it's not likely that he'll notice if we record the new topic he made.--[[User:AnotherAnon|AnotherAnon]] 22:25, 27 July 2011 (PDT)

== Wait, what? ==

"Plus finding employment is hard. I got a fancy computer degree from community college, and there have been very slim pickings from it. Already Taken; Quota's Filled; yada, yada, yada." Did Chris ''actually'' make an attempt to get a job? This can't be right. Chris is probably just saying this to fit in. I call bullshit. [[User:LAG4U|LAG4U]] 02:34, 28 July 2011 (PDT)
:* Second the bullshit [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 19:13, 28 July 2011 (PDT)

== Add his new posts ==

Chrissy has made more posts on T&ToV, the most recent being the 28th July. Wouldn't it be a good idea to add them to the article? [[User:Sudospider|Sudospider]] 13:57, 29 July 2011 (PDT)
::Yes, not only would it be a great idea...it's a necessity. DO IT. --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 14:41, 29 July 2011 (PDT)
I know right. I thought that there would be more updating of the article if he is still posting. The article is aprox a week out of date. [[User:Sudospider|Sudospider]] 14:51, 29 July 2011 (PDT)
Updated with new posts. [[User:Sudospider|Sudospider]] 15:02, 29 July 2011 (PDT)

== Or not. ==

You guys can add hyperlinks/make minor tweaks but leave the posts and first paragraph alone. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 19:28, 29 July 2011 (PDT)

Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia

2011-07-30T02:25:50Z

Thorgnzorrg: No 2: Electric Boogaloo.

'''Tomboys and Tomgirls of Virginia''' is a forum established in late [[April 2011]]. [[Chris]] was posting as himself under the alias "Kookydashy". This resulted in several stories of his exploits as a [[tomgirl]] that, to say the least, made the effort of tracking him down more than worth it. Chris posted on and off, trying his best to conceal his identity in the most obvious way possible. Below are his T&ToV posts, with blue representing Chris' posts and red representing posts in the threads he was responding to.

== Posts ==
===Re: Introductions!===
In which Chris openly announces he is Christian Weston Chandler as much as he can without actually saying it.

[[Image:ponyboy.jpg|thumb|[[My Little Pony|Kookydashy]]: Interests include [[Plush Breasts of Fail|breasts]], [[China|pussy]], and [[Autism Awareness E-mails|autism awareness]].]]

{{quotebox|Hello, fellow tomgirls. :)

Y'all may address me by my screen name in the board talk. I like [[Chris and Music|music]], [[JuggaloShoutOut|makeup]], [[Chris and Fashion|dressin' up]] in my mini, [[Mass Debating|havin' fun]] 'n hangin' with my [[Gal-pals|girlfriend]]s, [[Christian and the Hedgehog Boys|karaoke]], [[video games]], crafting and [[art]].

I am also empathetic, so [[Autism|I can understand others people's feelings]], as well as my own. I am a dynamic, complex individual.

I do not have many [[jerks|dude pals]], because I have my own mental hang-ups against the majority of them; Nothing Personal. I have a history of being bullied by some mean brutes, as well as [[homos|homosexuals]], over the [[internet]]. Cyber-Bullies/[[Trolls]]/Anons are a hot button with me. I prefer not to discuss that issue further.

And I am an all-around good, [[death threats|friendly]], [[List of Chris's lies|honest]], [[Vibrator|heterosexual]] tomgirl.

Thank you all for offering me respect, as I respect each of you and your opinions on the board.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2&p=157#p157]</ref>}}

===Re: Coming out to my parents===
In this thread, Chris opened up about his parents' feelings in regards to his newfound fetish.

{{quotebox|Y'all are singin' my song; my [[Barb|mom]] and [[Bob|dad]] were shocked bad when I told them I was a tomgirl. Soo Literally old-fasioned (they're both [[Chris and English|seinors]]). My mom said "I didn't raise a daughter", and my father threw the damned "fag" card at me.

I will Always be Straight, Mom and Dad; give me some faith and trust.

What a world with outside influances to put great paranoia in our families.

Also, try looking up "tomgirl" on [[Wikipedia]]; it redirects to "effeminancy". While effeminancy is true for us, I feel the contents of that page is against us, due to it addressing the [[homos]].

Someone needs to undo the redirects, edit the grammer errors in "tomgirl"`s original edit, and add a ton more detail to it.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3&p=160#p160]</ref>}}

{{quotebox|My mom is still giving me complaints and nit-picks about me wearing my feminine attire. I wish I could just up and move out and not have to deal with my family; I don't know too many other people here in C-Ville, and those I do know I'm only acquainted with or know little about them for only a few weeks.

Plus finding employment is hard. I got a [[CADD|fancy computer degree]] from [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|community college]], and there have been very slim pickings from it. Already Taken; Quota's Filled; yada, yada, yada.

Plus also, she keeps throwing disbelief towards us by stating "Tomgirls aren't real"; SHE'S a Tomboy; what a bunch of 1940's old-fashioned crap. Plus she watches too much current news, and she is soo paranoid and shit.

I wish I could afford to move out, but I can't afford it [[monthly tugboat|financially]], [[Autism|mentally]] and [[Chris and anger|emotionally]]. Fucking [[stress|pisses me off.]]<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3&start=20]</ref>}}

===Re: Girly Things Tee Hee===

{{quotebox|After I realized my tomgirly ways, and starting dressing up in my skirts, I started feeling discomfort in using the Men's restroom. I asked my closest gal pal if it would be going too far in using the Ladies' room; she told me to go with my feelings. My next skirted outting, I used the ladies' room, and I squatted, holding my [[duck|arrow]] down over the john (so I would be less likely to soil my skirt); it felt good and Right. Days later, though, after 4 more lady trips; a woman complains and tattles on me, and a stereotypical [[jerk|Brute male]] shouts me out. I felt embarassed. When in skirt, I am still gonna go to the Ladies, because there is no goin' back for me.

Heck, I would not hold it against a tomboy who felt more comfort in using the Men's room over the Ladies'.

As truest Tomgirls, we do respect greatly the women as equals. [[lie|I would never look]] or anything of the sort.

Open for your thoughts.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20&p=162#p162]</ref>}}

{{quotebox|I've recently got into the original Squinkies, they are so cute and cool. And their gumball-machine dispensing playsets are neat. I like the cupcake-shaped one. And they're also coming out with Squinkie cars for Hot Wheels and Cars 2; little Squinkie people now have cool wheels to drive.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20&start=10]</ref>}}

{{quotebox|Something else girly I enjoy danglin' around where I go is my ankle bracelet. It's a silver chain with sections of 4 silver beads, and I've added three stars on chains onto the hook. I never take it off, because it is an awesome and cute jewelry, plus it is difficult to put it back on. LOL

I also am enjoying the "Mighty Milky Way" DSiWare game on my [[Nintendo|3DS]]. Luna is a cute, sexy gal, and the method of guiding her from planet to planet is neat.

Anyone else on here with a 3DS may add me onto y'all's Friend List with my code, 2836-0121-9073. Please P.M. me with your 3DS F.C. in response if y'all add me.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20&p=382#p382]</ref>}}

===Re: Homosexuals===
[[Image:TG20.jpg|thumb|Hear that, homos? Chris is offended by your flamboyance!]]
{{quotebox|I do not care much for the [[homosexual]] males either. I mean, I really feel offended when they get soo flamboyant with their ways and such, it's like they're shoving it in your face. Plus, most of the Cyber-Bullies who gave me grief were homos [[Jack Thaddeus|themselves]], placing their damn label onto me wrongfully.

As long as they each keep it to themselves and behind closed doors, I won't bother them.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20&p=162#p162]</ref>}}

===Re: July Meetup===

{{quoteboxred|'''by DanielleTheRiveter » Sun May 29, 2011 9:58 pm'''

That's right, everyone. It's that time again. Time to plan our big meet up for July. We're currently looking to meet up somewhere that's kinda central and should be easy for everyone.

First off, remember to dress your best. I'm going to wear my old dress uniform like normal but if you'd like to give us a sneak peak of your outfit, please feel free to do so here.

Also, any suggestions for Date / Time / Location is welcome.

Looking forward to seeing everyone there!|DanielleTheRiveter<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=27&p=229#p229]</ref>}}

{{quotebox|How about at the Applebees next to Toys 'R' Us on Branchlands Lane on a Monday; at 9 PM, they have Karaokee night there. Meet and greet first and sing-along after.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=27&p=229#p229]</ref>}}

===Re: FUKKEN HATERSSSssssssssss===
In which Chris fantasizes about an unrealistic encounter with a "hater", then throws in some unintelligible [[Random-access humor|RAH]].

{{quotebox|I would generally ignore the haters' hurtful comments and move forward too. But if they are really in my face calling me gay or telling me [[virgin|I won't be geeting a woman]], I would tell them like it is in my miniskirt, "All I have to do is lift up my skirt and I'll be up your woman's biz in seconds." :)<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=32&p=291#p291]</ref>}}

===Re: What part of Virginia are you from?===

{{quotebox|Charlottesville is my city of stompin' ground; it can stand some improvement, though. More excitement, and maybe a strip club or two. LOL.

I've also resided in Midlothian for my Middle and [[High School]] years.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35&p=292#p292]</ref>}}

===Re: 10 interesting facts about you!===
Unsurprisingly the most bland, useless information is considered by Chris to be an "interesting fact"

{{quotebox|[[Autism|1.]] I like to take my time to think of how I feel about the current topic, as well as responding in discussion.

[[Lie|2.]] I am empathetic.

[[Fat|3.]] I appreciate how the fast food places wised up and started offering apple slices as a healthier option after decades of fried potatoes.

[[Trolls|4.]] With my history of being trolled and online coomunicating, I feel online socializing only makes people more autistic-like. People need to wise up and go back to feeling comfortable socializing in person.

[[Cwcsicle|5.]] I have sassy, fun ideas sometimes.

[[Sonichu|6.]] I am good at hand-drawing, coloring and story creating.

[[Manchester High School|7.]] I have had happy years in High School.

[[Autism|8.]] I try to be cautious of other people's intentions and feelings while communicating and coping with them.

[[Lie|9.]] I am technologically and musically inclined.

[[Chris and Art|10.]] I enjoy tinkering and creating when I feel inspired.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=34&p=293#p293]</ref>}}

===Re: tomboy looking 4 tomgirl===
[[Image:Suchin.jpg|thumb|Suchin]]

{{quoteboxred|'''by William » Sun May 29, 2011 2:44 am'''

hello my name is suchin and i am originally from thailand. my friends call me william or will because i am rowdy and like to have fun i am looking for tomgirl to treat me right. i work in manicure salon now and i love beauty on my men and dirt on me

[image]

this is me. what is you? lets meet up and exchange details. i am from richmond but will be in charlottesville for the 4th of july. i love freedom now too.
your turn now! fi dorrar. sacki aur bunti. PLEASE send me a message!|William<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26&p=311#p311]</ref>}}

{{quotebox|There is a pretty face, lovely head of [[hair]] and a nice rack in the photo. But I feel I have to interject here.

How do we know you are really that woman, or are you really some immature, trolling stupid brat trying to stir trouble on our forum? People have done that sort of thing over the internet; I fell victim to communicating with such people. And from that, I have learned to keep most personal things offline and to myself.

Anyway, I am not going to fall for such an obvious facade, and I wish to prevent anyone else from finding such gross disappointment and disaster.

Fess up, man.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26&p=311#p311]</ref>}}

{{quoteboxred|'''by Tippy » Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:27 am '''

Hey I'm going to be down in Richmond tomorrow anyway, I think you're pretty cute so I'd like to meet up if possible.

I understand if this is kind of sudden, but when I saw that picture I just knew I had to meet this woman.|Tippy<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26&p=311#p311]</ref>}}

{{quoteboxred|'''by William » Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:33 am'''

kookydashy your comment make me so sad? i work so hard on my body to be my tomboy self and i am so tired of others putting me down for me being me. sometimes i think it because they jealous but for you to accuse me of being troll, someting i hate most in whole american world, make me cry some. this remind me of my sister telling me i cannot wear pants because i am woman. i can wear pants AND NOT BE MAN OR UGLY!!!!

as for Tippy, you sound so nice. I would love to meet a creature like you in reality world! i would even love to do your hair and nails and so much more... I am excite now! Yes! Please! I get out of work at around six. Can we do drinkies than??
|William<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26&p=311#p311]</ref>}}

{{quoteboxred|'''by Tippy » Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:38 am'''

OMG that's perfect, I'm supposed to have an early dinner meeting with a supplier, so I will be free right around six. I'll private message you my cell number and other info so we can exchange our numbers and stuff. I am so excited, I cannot wait. I will be counting down the hours till we meet up my Tomboy dream. We'll have drinks, and maybe dessert ;). Hehehehe|Tippy<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26&p=311#p311]</ref>}}

{{quoteboxred|'''by William » Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:44 am'''

AHHHHHHHHHH!!!! Sawatdee kaa!! <3 You are true lady AND gentleman! I will call you tonight to confirm our time together with one another for tomorrow! You have dried every tear of mine so quick and make me smile bright bright bright... I cannot wait to smile more with you! xx|William<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26&p=311#p311]</ref>}}

[[Image:Suchin 2.jpg|thumb|Suchin]]

{{quoteboxred|'''by Tippy » Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:00 pm'''

Hey everyone, I have a major update.

So after my meeting with the supplier, who I sweet talked into giving me a discounted rate, I met up with Suchin for drinks. Let me just say Tomboys and Tomgirls, the photos do not do her justice, she looks absolutely incredible. She gave me some great tips on keeping my pedicures lasting longer, we talked about every subject imaginable, and I hope she doesn't mind me saying this, but I am totally crushing on her right now, and cannot wait to see her again. The drive home from Richmond felt like nothing because of how happy I am right now.

Plus I'll always have this picture to remember our incredible night by.

Tippy<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26&p=311#p311]</ref>}}

{{quoteboxred|'''by William » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:33 pm'''

Yes, it very true ! Tippy you steal my heart and not ever let go! I am happy this way. I love sharing all my pretty lingerie with Tippy and I teach my new Tomgirl how to do Thai lap dance. We are so sensual and one. Tippy and I are item now!! NO TOUCHING! Thank you TBS and TGS of Virgina! <3 xoxo|William<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26&p=311#p311]</ref>}}

{{quoteboxred|'''by Tippy » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:40 pm'''

Suchin, you catty gal, I thought you were gonna let me announce to the forum that we were an item. It's ok, I still love you. And I can't wait until the next time we're together so I can give you that massage while you play your video games. I've never felt this happy, like this may be the greatest day of my entire life. I've met a lot of girls in my life, but Suchin, you are my woman, my strong, masculine, tomboy woman. I can't wait to see you next weekend, I've already talked to my boss, and I'm getting Friday off so we can spend the whole day together.

I never thought I'd be able to find love on an internet forum, and here we are, happy as can be. Thank you Tomboys and Tomgirls of Virgina, I hope the rest of you find your Tomboys and Tomgirls soon.
|Tippy<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26&p=311#p311]</ref>}}

{{quotebox|It looks like I stand corrected of my suspicions. But with my past experiences, and the too great number of crazy people in the world, we all have to be very cautious. And with that, I apologize for my earlier post and hurting your feelings, Suchin.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26&p=311#p311]</ref>}}

===Re: Manicure/Pedicure stories?===
{{quotebox|I have colored my nails before, and it is fun to do for a grand outting.

I feel it ill for me to go in for a manicure, not only due to lack of funds, but I am a recovering nail-biter. I even had to have a fingernail replaced in surgery years ago; it is growing in well, even though slower than the other nine.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=37&p=312#p312]</ref>}}

===Re: Mothers===
{{quotebox|My mother has tried to coerce me into going back to [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|briefs]]; Hells No! Panties are far more comfortable And stylish. And I am not going to ever go out without one of my [[muscle bra|sports bras]] again. She even tried to bribe, or wager, me, but I would not take it.

I feel there should be a law requiring all men to wear bras (sports ones at least); I feel grossed out whenever I see some dude walking sround shirtless. ]:(P<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=39&p=315#p315]</ref>}}

===Re: Friendship Issues===
{{quotebox|I'd like to talk a bit about those of us (well, me in particular) who have for real only less than or equal to a handful of friends in person.

Growing up, I have had mostly [[gal-pals|female friends]]. I was considerably blessed, yet I still lack the virgin-breaker moment. The close friendships were great, and I really appreciated them in my heart forever. I really should have tried to get further, but before 21, I was [[naive]] on the subject of dating. There Really should be a manditory [[dating education]] class alongside sex ed.

I have known all of my life that I do get along better with women well over those of my own gender. No personal offense to anyone.

I have a mental flaw, along with other learnings, which has taught me that most of the worldwide male poulation are, pretty much, Uncaring, Violent, Ignorant, Dumb, Boring Jerks. And with that, I feel afraid in meeting most males, because I feel ill of getting too close, because of me getting hurt, or something else god-awful. ]:(

Again, no personal offense is meant to anyone.

My gal pal has informed me that me meeting more women and getting it on is very unlikely if I do not have many dude pals. Nutshell; I would be mistaken for a homo, or too easily [[friend zone|friend-zoned]] by women. This tid bit makes me feel sad.

Open for individual responses from Everyone on this forum.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48&p=405#p405]</ref>}}

{{quoteboxred|'''by BornThisWay » Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:24 am'''

Aww, that sux!!!! Anyway I met most of my friends back in high school, or college, or at my past jobs. Sometimes it's hard to keep in touch with everybody but that's why the [[Internet]] and phones were invented! A lot of the friends I hang out with now were from my last job. We'd go out for drinks every Thursday, Friday and Saturday and have the grandest of times! Sometimes I still meet up with them, but not every week like I used to.

As for meeting people, I've never really thought about it because I'm not a really shy person. I guess if you strike up conversations based on stuff you like or stuff you notice about them, that's a good start. It's real easy to sit in your room all day and play video games but you just have to talk to people and get out there. Sometimes I'll just go out all by myself and sit someplace nice and quiet and read. If you look cute sometimes people come up and introduce themselves!

But anyway if you haven't done it already you should get on [[Facebook]] and try to find your old friends and tell them what you've been up to since you've last seen them! It's a really easy way to keep in touch with people especially since a lot of people move away right after high school or college. Facebook is like a high school reunion that never ends! (Sorry if I sound like a commercial!) Plus if there's anyone who still lives in Virginia maybe they can introduce you to some of their single friends! Just be yourself and let us know what they say, ok?|BornThisWay<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48&p=405#p405]</ref>}}

{{quotebox|"Social" websites like Facebook and [[MySpace]] are ALL a Joke against socializing. Everybody is on the internet these days. And to Socialize online with total strangers Constantly is an epic fail. That kind of "socializing" on the internet will only result in making people more and more Autistic-Like. Think about it.

The more time we spend in front of an internet screen leads to constant lack of practice in REAL Socializing face to face offline.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48&p=405#p405]</ref>}}

{{quoteboxred|'''by Mike Love » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:23 am'''

I like Facebook. There's a lot of people I don't nescesarilly talk to a lot, but I like to be able to keep up with what they're doing. Plus it makes it easier to keep track of people's phone numbers. Plus, I know a lot of cute girls, and I like to look at their photos a lot and get ideas on new outfits to wear.
|Mike Love<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48&p=405#p405]</ref>}}

{{quotebox|Just a gosh-darn minute. People Pretend to be Other People online, even Computers have been Programmed to pretend to be People to tease and get personal information from you. And Trolls/Cyber-Bullies Hack into YOUR Facebook and MySpace, rearranging, smearing, soiling with pornographic, most horrible images from the darkest regions of the internet. And they create [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|wiki]] [[CWCki|sites]] and pages of Hate against you soo horrible that Googling your own name results in MILLIONS of hate-filled results.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48&p=405#p405]</ref>}}

''Note: Almost all google searches for variations of Chris-Chan (Christian Weston Chandler, CWC, Chris Chandler, etc.) consist mostly of pages mentioning other people such as Chris Chan Lee, people with the name Christian, Christianity, acronyms for companies, and other miscellaneous results. The actual ammount of hate-filled results probably ranges in the tens of thousands, not the millions. A ten second examination of the results would easily prove this but Chris has [[PS3|more important]] things to do.''

{{quoteboxred|'''by BornThisWay » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:53 pm'''

Like I said, it's really, really sad that you're putting your fears in the way of getting in touch with your old friends and establishing new friendships. I'll bet your old friends think about you sometimes and miss you. And like it or not, people use social networking sites to contact people they know in real life to do things in real life. This is the way things are now.

I don't get how somebody who has enough courage to dress up in women's clothing and walk around in public and use the girl's bathroom can be so afraid of somebody making fun of them on the internet. I mean, who would even know who your old friends are? Why would somebody go through the trouble of impersonating them? And wouldn't you like, be able to figure out if it was somebody pretending to be them? I mean their Facebook profile would link back to all their friends and most of their family members. They'd not only have to fool you, but their parents and relatives, who have known them since they were born. Like, if somebody tried to set up a phony profile and pretended to be me just to hate on me, everybody would know that something was off.

So like, you've though about one bad thing that could happen if you tried to look up old friends on Facebook, and just assumed that it will happen. And you said you're afraid of getting to close to males in real life, because you think something bad might happen. It's really easy to worry and make up excuses about why you can't do things, but just know that if you do that anxiety is going to rule your life.

Like I said you believe in yourself enough to admit that you're a Tomgirl and get out there and strut your stuff. Some Tomgirls don't even get that far! Think about how much you've already accomplished before deciding what you can and can't do. You're your own boss and I can't make you do anything, I'm just saying your life would be a lot less lonely if you were open to looking up the old friends you've fallen out of touch with over the years.|BornThisWay<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48&p=405#p405]</ref>}}

{{quoteboxred|'''by Tippy » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:31 am'''

Maybe I've just been lucky and haven't met anyone who has lied to me online. I use facebook to keep in contact with the people I'm close to, they've made it so easy to keep track of my friends, why wouldn't I take advantage of it. As far as having problems with meeting anyone online. I met Suchin here on the forum, and I had no trouble meeting up with her. There are always going to be assholes out there Kooky, but you can show them that they are just haters and you aren't going to listen to them.
|Tippy<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48&p=405#p405]</ref>}}

{{quoteboxred|'''by Thoria » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:34 am'''
I just use FB in private mode, that way haters can't see what I'm doing and I only have my closest friends on there.
|Thoria<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48&p=405#p405]</ref>}}

At this point Chris loses all self-control and does everything short of posting "I am Christian Weston Chandler, I am famous on the internet and trolls pick on me".

{{quotebox|It's not just THOUGHT, but it HAS happened to me before for real. And if you don't believe, take for example the author of the comic book series featuring that yellow, [[electric hedgehog]]... [[Sonichu]], if I remember correctly.

Before a time, the author had a clean history, then Cyber-Bullies and Trolls attacked him greatly; now Googling his name will result in over a million results of hate and name soiling. Especially from the blackmail and deceptions he had to endure.

I, myself, had a page on Facebook. Things were good for me a while. Then I was attacked in [[2005]] by the Trolls. They pretended to be my closest friends; they got a number of incriminating photos and details from me. They also hacked into my Facebook. It took me over a week before I was able to reset my password and e-mail address. And upon reflection, I closed my Facebook account and left the online socializing for years. It is real, and they are vicious, crazy, wickedly smart people.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48&p=405#p405]</ref>}}

==See also==
*[[Sonichu Girls]]
*[[Tomgirl Pictures]]
*[[Trollin' Train]]

==References==
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==External links==
* [http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/ Tomboys and Tomgirls of Virginia]
* [http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=95 Chris's profile]

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Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia

2011-07-30T02:24:09Z

Thorgnzorrg: No.

'''Tomboys and Tomgirls of Virginia''' is a forum established in late [[April 2011]]. [[Chris]] was posting as himself under the alias "Kookydashy". This resulted in several stories of his exploits as a [[tomgirl]] that, to say the least, made the effort of tracking him down more than worth it. Chris posted on and off, trying his best to conceal his identity in the most obvious way possible. Below are his T&ToV posts, with blue representing Chris' posts and red representing posts in the threads he was responding to. He is currently trying to rally them up in an attempt to counter trolls. <ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=57]</ref>

== Posts ==
===Re: Introductions!===
In which Chris openly announces he is Christian Weston Chandler as much as he can without actually saying it.

[[Image:ponyboy.jpg|thumb|[[My Little Pony|Kookydashy]]: Interests include [[Plush Breasts of Fail|breasts]], [[China|pussy]], and [[Autism Awareness E-mails|autism awareness]].]]

{{quotebox|Hello, fellow tomgirls. :)

Y'all may address me by my screen name in the board talk. I like [[Chris and Music|music]], [[JuggaloShoutOut|makeup]], [[Chris and Fashion|dressin' up]] in my mini, [[Mass Debating|havin' fun]] 'n hangin' with my [[Gal-pals|girlfriend]]s, [[Christian and the Hedgehog Boys|karaoke]], [[video games]], crafting and [[art]].

I am also empathetic, so [[Autism|I can understand others people's feelings]], as well as my own. I am a dynamic, complex individual.

I do not have many [[jerks|dude pals]], because I have my own mental hang-ups against the majority of them; Nothing Personal. I have a history of being bullied by some mean brutes, as well as [[homos|homosexuals]], over the [[internet]]. Cyber-Bullies/[[Trolls]]/Anons are a hot button with me. I prefer not to discuss that issue further.

And I am an all-around good, [[death threats|friendly]], [[List of Chris's lies|honest]], [[Vibrator|heterosexual]] tomgirl.

Thank you all for offering me respect, as I respect each of you and your opinions on the board.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2&p=157#p157]</ref>}}

===Re: Coming out to my parents===
In this thread, Chris opened up about his parents' feelings in regards to his newfound fetish.

{{quotebox|Y'all are singin' my song; my [[Barb|mom]] and [[Bob|dad]] were shocked bad when I told them I was a tomgirl. Soo Literally old-fasioned (they're both [[Chris and English|seinors]]). My mom said "I didn't raise a daughter", and my father threw the damned "fag" card at me.

I will Always be Straight, Mom and Dad; give me some faith and trust.

What a world with outside influances to put great paranoia in our families.

Also, try looking up "tomgirl" on [[Wikipedia]]; it redirects to "effeminancy". While effeminancy is true for us, I feel the contents of that page is against us, due to it addressing the [[homos]].

Someone needs to undo the redirects, edit the grammer errors in "tomgirl"`s original edit, and add a ton more detail to it.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3&p=160#p160]</ref>}}

{{quotebox|My mom is still giving me complaints and nit-picks about me wearing my feminine attire. I wish I could just up and move out and not have to deal with my family; I don't know too many other people here in C-Ville, and those I do know I'm only acquainted with or know little about them for only a few weeks.

Plus finding employment is hard. I got a [[CADD|fancy computer degree]] from [[Piedmont Virginia Community College|community college]], and there have been very slim pickings from it. Already Taken; Quota's Filled; yada, yada, yada.

Plus also, she keeps throwing disbelief towards us by stating "Tomgirls aren't real"; SHE'S a Tomboy; what a bunch of 1940's old-fashioned crap. Plus she watches too much current news, and she is soo paranoid and shit.

I wish I could afford to move out, but I can't afford it [[monthly tugboat|financially]], [[Autism|mentally]] and [[Chris and anger|emotionally]]. Fucking [[stress|pisses me off.]]<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3&start=20]</ref>}}

===Re: Girly Things Tee Hee===

{{quotebox|After I realized my tomgirly ways, and starting dressing up in my skirts, I started feeling discomfort in using the Men's restroom. I asked my closest gal pal if it would be going too far in using the Ladies' room; she told me to go with my feelings. My next skirted outting, I used the ladies' room, and I squatted, holding my [[duck|arrow]] down over the john (so I would be less likely to soil my skirt); it felt good and Right. Days later, though, after 4 more lady trips; a woman complains and tattles on me, and a stereotypical [[jerk|Brute male]] shouts me out. I felt embarassed. When in skirt, I am still gonna go to the Ladies, because there is no goin' back for me.

Heck, I would not hold it against a tomboy who felt more comfort in using the Men's room over the Ladies'.

As truest Tomgirls, we do respect greatly the women as equals. [[lie|I would never look]] or anything of the sort.

Open for your thoughts.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20&p=162#p162]</ref>}}

{{quotebox|I've recently got into the original Squinkies, they are so cute and cool. And their gumball-machine dispensing playsets are neat. I like the cupcake-shaped one. And they're also coming out with Squinkie cars for Hot Wheels and Cars 2; little Squinkie people now have cool wheels to drive.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20&start=10]</ref>}}

{{quotebox|Something else girly I enjoy danglin' around where I go is my ankle bracelet. It's a silver chain with sections of 4 silver beads, and I've added three stars on chains onto the hook. I never take it off, because it is an awesome and cute jewelry, plus it is difficult to put it back on. LOL

I also am enjoying the "Mighty Milky Way" DSiWare game on my [[Nintendo|3DS]]. Luna is a cute, sexy gal, and the method of guiding her from planet to planet is neat.

Anyone else on here with a 3DS may add me onto y'all's Friend List with my code, 2836-0121-9073. Please P.M. me with your 3DS F.C. in response if y'all add me.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20&p=382#p382]</ref>}}

===Re: Homosexuals===
[[Image:TG20.jpg|thumb|Hear that, homos? Chris is offended by your flamboyance!]]
{{quotebox|I do not care much for the [[homosexual]] males either. I mean, I really feel offended when they get soo flamboyant with their ways and such, it's like they're shoving it in your face. Plus, most of the Cyber-Bullies who gave me grief were homos [[Jack Thaddeus|themselves]], placing their damn label onto me wrongfully.

As long as they each keep it to themselves and behind closed doors, I won't bother them.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20&p=162#p162]</ref>}}

===Re: July Meetup===

{{quoteboxred|'''by DanielleTheRiveter » Sun May 29, 2011 9:58 pm'''

That's right, everyone. It's that time again. Time to plan our big meet up for July. We're currently looking to meet up somewhere that's kinda central and should be easy for everyone.

First off, remember to dress your best. I'm going to wear my old dress uniform like normal but if you'd like to give us a sneak peak of your outfit, please feel free to do so here.

Also, any suggestions for Date / Time / Location is welcome.

Looking forward to seeing everyone there!|DanielleTheRiveter<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=27&p=229#p229]</ref>}}

{{quotebox|How about at the Applebees next to Toys 'R' Us on Branchlands Lane on a Monday; at 9 PM, they have Karaokee night there. Meet and greet first and sing-along after.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=27&p=229#p229]</ref>}}

===Re: FUKKEN HATERSSSssssssssss===
In which Chris fantasizes about an unrealistic encounter with a "hater", then throws in some unintelligible [[Random-access humor|RAH]].

{{quotebox|I would generally ignore the haters' hurtful comments and move forward too. But if they are really in my face calling me gay or telling me [[virgin|I won't be geeting a woman]], I would tell them like it is in my miniskirt, "All I have to do is lift up my skirt and I'll be up your woman's biz in seconds." :)<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=32&p=291#p291]</ref>}}

===Re: What part of Virginia are you from?===

{{quotebox|Charlottesville is my city of stompin' ground; it can stand some improvement, though. More excitement, and maybe a strip club or two. LOL.

I've also resided in Midlothian for my Middle and [[High School]] years.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35&p=292#p292]</ref>}}

===Re: 10 interesting facts about you!===
Unsurprisingly the most bland, useless information is considered by Chris to be an "interesting fact"

{{quotebox|[[Autism|1.]] I like to take my time to think of how I feel about the current topic, as well as responding in discussion.

[[Lie|2.]] I am empathetic.

[[Fat|3.]] I appreciate how the fast food places wised up and started offering apple slices as a healthier option after decades of fried potatoes.

[[Trolls|4.]] With my history of being trolled and online coomunicating, I feel online socializing only makes people more autistic-like. People need to wise up and go back to feeling comfortable socializing in person.

[[Cwcsicle|5.]] I have sassy, fun ideas sometimes.

[[Sonichu|6.]] I am good at hand-drawing, coloring and story creating.

[[Manchester High School|7.]] I have had happy years in High School.

[[Autism|8.]] I try to be cautious of other people's intentions and feelings while communicating and coping with them.

[[Lie|9.]] I am technologically and musically inclined.

[[Chris and Art|10.]] I enjoy tinkering and creating when I feel inspired.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=34&p=293#p293]</ref>}}

===Re: tomboy looking 4 tomgirl===
[[Image:Suchin.jpg|thumb|Suchin]]

{{quoteboxred|'''by William » Sun May 29, 2011 2:44 am'''

hello my name is suchin and i am originally from thailand. my friends call me william or will because i am rowdy and like to have fun i am looking for tomgirl to treat me right. i work in manicure salon now and i love beauty on my men and dirt on me

[image]

this is me. what is you? lets meet up and exchange details. i am from richmond but will be in charlottesville for the 4th of july. i love freedom now too.
your turn now! fi dorrar. sacki aur bunti. PLEASE send me a message!|William<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26&p=311#p311]</ref>}}

{{quotebox|There is a pretty face, lovely head of [[hair]] and a nice rack in the photo. But I feel I have to interject here.

How do we know you are really that woman, or are you really some immature, trolling stupid brat trying to stir trouble on our forum? People have done that sort of thing over the internet; I fell victim to communicating with such people. And from that, I have learned to keep most personal things offline and to myself.

Anyway, I am not going to fall for such an obvious facade, and I wish to prevent anyone else from finding such gross disappointment and disaster.

Fess up, man.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26&p=311#p311]</ref>}}

{{quoteboxred|'''by Tippy » Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:27 am '''

Hey I'm going to be down in Richmond tomorrow anyway, I think you're pretty cute so I'd like to meet up if possible.

I understand if this is kind of sudden, but when I saw that picture I just knew I had to meet this woman.|Tippy<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26&p=311#p311]</ref>}}

{{quoteboxred|'''by William » Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:33 am'''

kookydashy your comment make me so sad? i work so hard on my body to be my tomboy self and i am so tired of others putting me down for me being me. sometimes i think it because they jealous but for you to accuse me of being troll, someting i hate most in whole american world, make me cry some. this remind me of my sister telling me i cannot wear pants because i am woman. i can wear pants AND NOT BE MAN OR UGLY!!!!

as for Tippy, you sound so nice. I would love to meet a creature like you in reality world! i would even love to do your hair and nails and so much more... I am excite now! Yes! Please! I get out of work at around six. Can we do drinkies than??
|William<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26&p=311#p311]</ref>}}

{{quoteboxred|'''by Tippy » Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:38 am'''

OMG that's perfect, I'm supposed to have an early dinner meeting with a supplier, so I will be free right around six. I'll private message you my cell number and other info so we can exchange our numbers and stuff. I am so excited, I cannot wait. I will be counting down the hours till we meet up my Tomboy dream. We'll have drinks, and maybe dessert ;). Hehehehe|Tippy<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26&p=311#p311]</ref>}}

{{quoteboxred|'''by William » Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:44 am'''

AHHHHHHHHHH!!!! Sawatdee kaa!! <3 You are true lady AND gentleman! I will call you tonight to confirm our time together with one another for tomorrow! You have dried every tear of mine so quick and make me smile bright bright bright... I cannot wait to smile more with you! xx|William<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26&p=311#p311]</ref>}}

[[Image:Suchin 2.jpg|thumb|Suchin]]

{{quoteboxred|'''by Tippy » Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:00 pm'''

Hey everyone, I have a major update.

So after my meeting with the supplier, who I sweet talked into giving me a discounted rate, I met up with Suchin for drinks. Let me just say Tomboys and Tomgirls, the photos do not do her justice, she looks absolutely incredible. She gave me some great tips on keeping my pedicures lasting longer, we talked about every subject imaginable, and I hope she doesn't mind me saying this, but I am totally crushing on her right now, and cannot wait to see her again. The drive home from Richmond felt like nothing because of how happy I am right now.

Plus I'll always have this picture to remember our incredible night by.

Tippy<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26&p=311#p311]</ref>}}

{{quoteboxred|'''by William » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:33 pm'''

Yes, it very true ! Tippy you steal my heart and not ever let go! I am happy this way. I love sharing all my pretty lingerie with Tippy and I teach my new Tomgirl how to do Thai lap dance. We are so sensual and one. Tippy and I are item now!! NO TOUCHING! Thank you TBS and TGS of Virgina! <3 xoxo|William<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26&p=311#p311]</ref>}}

{{quoteboxred|'''by Tippy » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:40 pm'''

Suchin, you catty gal, I thought you were gonna let me announce to the forum that we were an item. It's ok, I still love you. And I can't wait until the next time we're together so I can give you that massage while you play your video games. I've never felt this happy, like this may be the greatest day of my entire life. I've met a lot of girls in my life, but Suchin, you are my woman, my strong, masculine, tomboy woman. I can't wait to see you next weekend, I've already talked to my boss, and I'm getting Friday off so we can spend the whole day together.

I never thought I'd be able to find love on an internet forum, and here we are, happy as can be. Thank you Tomboys and Tomgirls of Virgina, I hope the rest of you find your Tomboys and Tomgirls soon.
|Tippy<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26&p=311#p311]</ref>}}

{{quotebox|It looks like I stand corrected of my suspicions. But with my past experiences, and the too great number of crazy people in the world, we all have to be very cautious. And with that, I apologize for my earlier post and hurting your feelings, Suchin.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26&p=311#p311]</ref>}}

===Re: Manicure/Pedicure stories?===
{{quotebox|I have colored my nails before, and it is fun to do for a grand outting.

I feel it ill for me to go in for a manicure, not only due to lack of funds, but I am a recovering nail-biter. I even had to have a fingernail replaced in surgery years ago; it is growing in well, even though slower than the other nine.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=37&p=312#p312]</ref>}}

===Re: Mothers===
{{quotebox|My mother has tried to coerce me into going back to [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|briefs]]; Hells No! Panties are far more comfortable And stylish. And I am not going to ever go out without one of my [[muscle bra|sports bras]] again. She even tried to bribe, or wager, me, but I would not take it.

I feel there should be a law requiring all men to wear bras (sports ones at least); I feel grossed out whenever I see some dude walking sround shirtless. ]:(P<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=39&p=315#p315]</ref>}}

===Re: Friendship Issues===
{{quotebox|I'd like to talk a bit about those of us (well, me in particular) who have for real only less than or equal to a handful of friends in person.

Growing up, I have had mostly [[gal-pals|female friends]]. I was considerably blessed, yet I still lack the virgin-breaker moment. The close friendships were great, and I really appreciated them in my heart forever. I really should have tried to get further, but before 21, I was [[naive]] on the subject of dating. There Really should be a manditory [[dating education]] class alongside sex ed.

I have known all of my life that I do get along better with women well over those of my own gender. No personal offense to anyone.

I have a mental flaw, along with other learnings, which has taught me that most of the worldwide male poulation are, pretty much, Uncaring, Violent, Ignorant, Dumb, Boring Jerks. And with that, I feel afraid in meeting most males, because I feel ill of getting too close, because of me getting hurt, or something else god-awful. ]:(

Again, no personal offense is meant to anyone.

My gal pal has informed me that me meeting more women and getting it on is very unlikely if I do not have many dude pals. Nutshell; I would be mistaken for a homo, or too easily [[friend zone|friend-zoned]] by women. This tid bit makes me feel sad.

Open for individual responses from Everyone on this forum.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48&p=405#p405]</ref>}}

{{quoteboxred|'''by BornThisWay » Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:24 am'''

Aww, that sux!!!! Anyway I met most of my friends back in high school, or college, or at my past jobs. Sometimes it's hard to keep in touch with everybody but that's why the [[Internet]] and phones were invented! A lot of the friends I hang out with now were from my last job. We'd go out for drinks every Thursday, Friday and Saturday and have the grandest of times! Sometimes I still meet up with them, but not every week like I used to.

As for meeting people, I've never really thought about it because I'm not a really shy person. I guess if you strike up conversations based on stuff you like or stuff you notice about them, that's a good start. It's real easy to sit in your room all day and play video games but you just have to talk to people and get out there. Sometimes I'll just go out all by myself and sit someplace nice and quiet and read. If you look cute sometimes people come up and introduce themselves!

But anyway if you haven't done it already you should get on [[Facebook]] and try to find your old friends and tell them what you've been up to since you've last seen them! It's a really easy way to keep in touch with people especially since a lot of people move away right after high school or college. Facebook is like a high school reunion that never ends! (Sorry if I sound like a commercial!) Plus if there's anyone who still lives in Virginia maybe they can introduce you to some of their single friends! Just be yourself and let us know what they say, ok?|BornThisWay<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48&p=405#p405]</ref>}}

{{quotebox|"Social" websites like Facebook and [[MySpace]] are ALL a Joke against socializing. Everybody is on the internet these days. And to Socialize online with total strangers Constantly is an epic fail. That kind of "socializing" on the internet will only result in making people more and more Autistic-Like. Think about it.

The more time we spend in front of an internet screen leads to constant lack of practice in REAL Socializing face to face offline.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48&p=405#p405]</ref>}}

{{quoteboxred|'''by Mike Love » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:23 am'''

I like Facebook. There's a lot of people I don't nescesarilly talk to a lot, but I like to be able to keep up with what they're doing. Plus it makes it easier to keep track of people's phone numbers. Plus, I know a lot of cute girls, and I like to look at their photos a lot and get ideas on new outfits to wear.
|Mike Love<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48&p=405#p405]</ref>}}

{{quotebox|Just a gosh-darn minute. People Pretend to be Other People online, even Computers have been Programmed to pretend to be People to tease and get personal information from you. And Trolls/Cyber-Bullies Hack into YOUR Facebook and MySpace, rearranging, smearing, soiling with pornographic, most horrible images from the darkest regions of the internet. And they create [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|wiki]] [[CWCki|sites]] and pages of Hate against you soo horrible that Googling your own name results in MILLIONS of hate-filled results.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48&p=405#p405]</ref>}}

''Note: Almost all google searches for variations of Chris-Chan (Christian Weston Chandler, CWC, Chris Chandler, etc.) consist mostly of pages mentioning other people such as Chris Chan Lee, people with the name Christian, Christianity, acronyms for companies, and other miscellaneous results. The actual ammount of hate-filled results probably ranges in the tens of thousands, not the millions. A ten second examination of the results would easily prove this but Chris has [[PS3|more important]] things to do.''

{{quoteboxred|'''by BornThisWay » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:53 pm'''

Like I said, it's really, really sad that you're putting your fears in the way of getting in touch with your old friends and establishing new friendships. I'll bet your old friends think about you sometimes and miss you. And like it or not, people use social networking sites to contact people they know in real life to do things in real life. This is the way things are now.

I don't get how somebody who has enough courage to dress up in women's clothing and walk around in public and use the girl's bathroom can be so afraid of somebody making fun of them on the internet. I mean, who would even know who your old friends are? Why would somebody go through the trouble of impersonating them? And wouldn't you like, be able to figure out if it was somebody pretending to be them? I mean their Facebook profile would link back to all their friends and most of their family members. They'd not only have to fool you, but their parents and relatives, who have known them since they were born. Like, if somebody tried to set up a phony profile and pretended to be me just to hate on me, everybody would know that something was off.

So like, you've though about one bad thing that could happen if you tried to look up old friends on Facebook, and just assumed that it will happen. And you said you're afraid of getting to close to males in real life, because you think something bad might happen. It's really easy to worry and make up excuses about why you can't do things, but just know that if you do that anxiety is going to rule your life.

Like I said you believe in yourself enough to admit that you're a Tomgirl and get out there and strut your stuff. Some Tomgirls don't even get that far! Think about how much you've already accomplished before deciding what you can and can't do. You're your own boss and I can't make you do anything, I'm just saying your life would be a lot less lonely if you were open to looking up the old friends you've fallen out of touch with over the years.|BornThisWay<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48&p=405#p405]</ref>}}

{{quoteboxred|'''by Tippy » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:31 am'''

Maybe I've just been lucky and haven't met anyone who has lied to me online. I use facebook to keep in contact with the people I'm close to, they've made it so easy to keep track of my friends, why wouldn't I take advantage of it. As far as having problems with meeting anyone online. I met Suchin here on the forum, and I had no trouble meeting up with her. There are always going to be assholes out there Kooky, but you can show them that they are just haters and you aren't going to listen to them.
|Tippy<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48&p=405#p405]</ref>}}

{{quoteboxred|'''by Thoria » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:34 am'''
I just use FB in private mode, that way haters can't see what I'm doing and I only have my closest friends on there.
|Thoria<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48&p=405#p405]</ref>}}

At this point Chris loses all self-control and does everything short of posting "I am Christian Weston Chandler, I am famous on the internet and trolls pick on me".

{{quotebox|It's not just THOUGHT, but it HAS happened to me before for real. And if you don't believe, take for example the author of the comic book series featuring that yellow, [[electric hedgehog]]... [[Sonichu]], if I remember correctly.

Before a time, the author had a clean history, then Cyber-Bullies and Trolls attacked him greatly; now Googling his name will result in over a million results of hate and name soiling. Especially from the blackmail and deceptions he had to endure.

I, myself, had a page on Facebook. Things were good for me a while. Then I was attacked in [[2005]] by the Trolls. They pretended to be my closest friends; they got a number of incriminating photos and details from me. They also hacked into my Facebook. It took me over a week before I was able to reset my password and e-mail address. And upon reflection, I closed my Facebook account and left the online socializing for years. It is real, and they are vicious, crazy, wickedly smart people.<ref>[http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48&p=405#p405]</ref>}}

==See also==
*[[Sonichu Girls]]
*[[Tomgirl Pictures]]
*[[Trollin' Train]]

==References==
<references/>

==External links==
* [http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/ Tomboys and Tomgirls of Virginia]
* [http://tomboytomgirls.44.forumer.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=95 Chris's profile]

[[Category:Historical Documents]]
[[Category:Homos]]
[[Category:Trolling]]
[[Category:Websites]]

User talk:Champthom

2011-07-30T02:17:11Z

Thorgnzorrg:

User talk:R3trogay

2011-07-28T19:34:50Z

Thorgnzorrg:

== RE: ==

And why is that? --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 12:34, 28 July 2011 (PDT)

==Hi there!==

[[Image:CWCiki_Introduction.jpg|thumb|300px|Welcome to CWCKI!]]

Welcome to [[CWCki]]! There's a lot to do around here because Chris never does anything himself. I hope you'll stay with us and make many improvements of your own!

:Before you start, be sure to read '''[[A Quick Guide to CWCki]]'''. This will guide you through the dos and don'ts of editing [[CWCki|the world's most accurate wiki]]. Be especially sure to read this if you consider Anonymous to be legion or if you've just come over from [[ED]]. Everything you know is [[lies|wrong]].

:'''[[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]]''' is a great first stop, because you can see what other people are editing right this minute, and where you can help.

:If you're looking for things to do, check out the '''[[CWCki:Priority Listing|priority listing]]''' for things that need to be done, or join a '''[[CWCki:Projects|project]]'''.

:If you haven't already, create a '''[[User:{{PAGENAME}}|user page]]''' about yourself! If you do, we'll be able to know you better as a member of our community. Just don't upload gigantic pictures of yourself and your favorite anime. I warn against this only because it's happened before.

:'''Questions?''' Please read the [[Frequently Asked Questions|FAQ]] first. Later, you can ask in the '''[[CWCki:Community_Portal|Community Portal]]''' or on the "discussion" page associated with each article, join the live chat in our [[Sonichu (IRC)|IRC channel]] or post a message on [[User talk:Nullity|my talk page]]!

:Once again, welcome to CWCki!
{{clear}}
-[[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 15:14, 26 July 2011 (PDT)

User talk:Champthom

2011-07-22T19:28:26Z

Thorgnzorrg:

Speech impediment

2011-07-21T20:14:48Z

Thorgnzorrg:

[[Image:Wesson.png]]

[[Chris]] has an unusual manner of speaking, between his strong [[Ruckersville, VA|regional dialect]] and what appear to be genuine impairments.

==History==
Chris's speech impediment appears to have worsened over time. He spoke clearly and normally in his [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes|earlier]] videos, while his stuttering and other difficulties have increased significantly since then.

Likely causes include troll-induced [[stress]] and a lack of conversational company not already accustomed to Chris's speaking tendencies.

Chris's problems in verbal communication potentially stem from either the extended period of "muteness" he went through during his childhood (supposedly as a consequence of his treatment by the [[abusive babysitter]]) or his [[autism]], a disorder which often results in speech difficulties. Chris's written communication generally tends to be significantly more coherent and grammatically correct than how he speaks. While writing, he has more time and freedom to determine what he says.

==Non-Symptoms==
Slang such as "Y'all," and "'em," and contracting the "g" of words ending in "-ing" is typical in dialects of the southeastern United States, Chris's native region.

Chris sometimes mispronounces names (such as [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] and [[Reggie Fils-Aimé]]) due to his ignorance of their proper pronunciation rather than impairments in speaking ability.

==Symptoms==
Chris's diction is naturally staggered, interspersed with pauses, deep breaths, "um," "uh," and "hm." The pauses and deep breaths, used in speech therapy, suggest that Chris has had his speech impediment professionally treated at some point. Chris's protracted style of speaking seems to make it easier for him to lose his thought, stray off topic, or forget to include certain segments of his thoughts. However, in the [[Flipnote Hatena|Flipnotes]] he has made, his speech is surprisingly fluent, with no "ums" or "uhs" This fluency is probably because he is being timed to do it, so there's little time to stop.

Chris also has a strong tendency to stutter. Although not the type of "machine-gun" stutter largely associated with the problem, Chris constantly has to repeat whole phrases, and he stumbles over certain phrases as he finds the correct words to best convey his ideas. This also could be because Chris finds the need to correct himself, and finds repetition to be the optimal way to deal with this. Ofte- usually this resu- this resu- thi- th- this ends up in Chris having to rei- repe- this ends up in Chris having to shuffle through many synonyms just to express a brief statement.

During the [[Father Call|conversation]] with [[Kacey]]'s dad, Chris claimed to pause before speaking in order to "spellcheck" what he is saying. This implies that Chris needs to consciously plan what he is going to say or else he is unable to say it; this suggests that Chris's difficulty with speech stems from poor contact between the speech centers of his brain and his cerebellum, a common characteristic of [[autism]]. Ironically, Chris clearly [[Chris and Writing|doesn't spellcheck his ''written'' work.]]

Like small children, Chris has a tendency to speak too quickly, run words into one another, and slur words. For example, Chris's pronunciation of "[[Encyclopedia Dramatica|Ensykapeia Dramakka paysh]]".

Chris sometimes mixes up the pieces of multiple word phrases, resulting in [[wikipedia:spoonerism|statements]] like "rell-wested." <ref>[[Ode to Julie]]</ref>

Chris has difficulty pronouncing the letter "X" (/ks/ or /gz/), as well as related consonantal digraphs (/sk/, /st/), pronouncing it either as an "/s/" sound (elision) or as a "/t͡s/" sound (fronting). In addition, he pronounces the voiced "th" sound (/ð/) as "d", even when it's not deliberate (as in "da" standing in for "the"). This indicates trouble with consonants, known as [[wikipedia:Speech-Language_Pathology_in_School_Settings#Articulation_disorders|articulation disorders]].

However, given the above, it is most likely he has [[wikipedia:cluttering|tachyphemia]]. This explains most of his speech and grammar usage.

==Sauces==
<references/>

==See also==
*[[Chris and English]]

[[Category:Physical characteristics]]

Template:Article of the now

2011-07-21T18:37:49Z

Thorgnzorrg:

[[Image:Ponyboy.jpg|left|200px|]]

Tomboys and Tomgirls of Virginia is a forum established in late April 2011. It seems to be some sort of gay forum for gays. Chris was posting as himself under the alias "Kookydashy". This resulted in several stories of his exploits as a tomgirl that, to say the least, made the effort of tracking him down more than worth it. Chris posted on and off, trying his best to conceal his identity in the most obvious way possible...

('''[[Tomboys_And_Tomgirls_of_Virginia|more...]]''')

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File:Chris winston baby.jpg

2011-07-21T04:14:32Z

Thorgnzorrg:

Talk:Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia

2011-07-21T01:41:37Z

Thorgnzorrg:

Talk:Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia

2011-07-21T01:38:58Z

Thorgnzorrg: Leave this be.

User:Thorgnzorrg

2011-07-21T00:46:01Z

Thorgnzorrg:

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! colspan="2" | Troll
|-
| colspan="2" | [[Image:Thorg.jpg|230px]]
|-
! colspan="2" |Thorgnzorrg
|-
| '''Aliases'''
| [[User:Thorgnzorrg/Jessica Cash|Jessica Cash]], [[Mailbag|Thorgnzorrg Jenkins]], [[Trollin Train|Jeff Mars]], [[Clyde Cash]] c. 2011
|-
| '''D.O.B.'''
| 8 August
|-
| '''Gender'''
| Male
|-
| '''Nationality'''
| Canadian
|-
| '''Race'''
| White
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| '''Religion'''
| None
|-
| '''Domain'''
| PVCC
|-
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|}

I will not rest until Christian Weston Chandler is exposed for what he truly is: a monster.

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==References==

<references/>

April 2011

2011-07-21T00:34:28Z

Thorgnzorrg:

'''April 2011''' began with Chris continuing to play [[PS3]] and hiding from [[troll]]s, and for most of the month, the only real thing to come out from Chris was a Playstation Network comment, wherein he proclaimed to be a "Tomgirl".

At the end of the month, the context for this weird statement was revealed, as the PSN suffered a worldwide security breach, which lead to Chris's account being hacked again, and shortly thereafter, a bunch of pictures wherein Chris dresses and does makeup like a woman and then goes out in public surfaced on the Internet. It is hotly debated whether this means that Chris is coming out of the closet or that it is yet another plan pertaining to his [[Love Quest]].

==Events==

* 14 April: [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]], the website that made Chris infamous, is taken down and replaced with [http://ohinternet.com/Main_Page Oh Internet]. Chris [[Take that Page DOWN NOW!|finally got his wish]].
* 16 April: It does not last long however, as a [http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Main_Page semi-complete mirror] of Encyclopedia Dramatica, including the Chris-chan page, is established.
* 21 April: [[PlayStation Network]] shuts down after an [[rape|"external-intrusion"]] by hackers, rendering Chris's [[PS3]] unable to connect to the internet and [[PlayStation_Network#Spending_history|impulse-buy large amounts of vidya]].
* 29 April: Several pictures of Chris [[Tomgirl Pictures|dressed as a woman]] are released.
==References==

<references/>

{{Timeline}}
[[Category:Chronology]]

Template:Da update

2011-07-21T00:22:36Z

Thorgnzorrg:

<center>[[Image:News.jpg]]</center>
* 20 [[July 2011|July]]: Chris is discovered on some [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia|tranny forum]].
* 7 [[July 2011|July]]: The Facebook page is shut down.
* 5 [[July 2011|July]]: A new [[Facebook]] account is found.
* 19 [[June 2011|June]]: Chris uploads another [[Hippo Flipnote|Flipnote]].
* 10 [[June 2011|June]]: Chris uploads a [[3DS Flipnote|new Flipnote]] demanding that Flipnote Studio be brought to the 3DS.
* 2 [[June 2011|June]]: Chris changes his PSN comment to "[[Chris and English|I No Socialize Online]]"
('''[[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}|more...]]''')

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Template:Da update

2011-07-21T00:22:12Z

Thorgnzorrg:

<center>[[Image:News.jpg]]</center>
* 20 [[July 2011|July]]: Chris is discovered on some [[tranny forum|Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]].
* 7 [[July 2011|July]]: The Facebook page is shut down.
* 5 [[July 2011|July]]: A new [[Facebook]] account is found.
* 19 [[June 2011|June]]: Chris uploads another [[Hippo Flipnote|Flipnote]].
* 10 [[June 2011|June]]: Chris uploads a [[3DS Flipnote|new Flipnote]] demanding that Flipnote Studio be brought to the 3DS.
* 2 [[June 2011|June]]: Chris changes his PSN comment to "[[Chris and English|I No Socialize Online]]"
('''[[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}|more...]]''')

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User talk:Thorgnzorrg

2011-07-21T00:00:57Z

Thorgnzorrg: Temporary removal

==Jonathan Carrey==
Dude, this could really just be incorporated into the family tree page, or maybe start a page for minor family members (Aunt Harriett, Uncle Tom, etc.). I'm sorry but by this logic, then we'd need a page for Flora (Ivy's friend mentioned in that song about farting), Stephanie (Emily's friend who was mentioned in a shoutout video), etc. But since I feel that you and others put so much work into it, I saved you the text and stuff so you can use it towards incorporating it into an article.

Also, that wedding did happen. In fact, a field agent posted a thing about it on PVCC. But good suspicion on your part and others. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:43, 2 July 2009 (CEST)

Well, the suspicion was a joke. However; a Minor Family Members page might be a good idea. Or perhaps a Minor Characters page, which would include non-family. Think it should include Savannah?--[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 09:47, 2 July 2009 (CEST)

*Very good. There's not really much we can expand upon the Savannah article, at least for some time, so it could be incorporated into another article, and if we find more we can split it off. I'd say we can even do the same thing for David Alan Chandler and Carol Susanne Chandler. There's not much Chris has really said about David, to be honest, except he's an optometrist and that Carol was a "math whiz" so yeah, they could just go into one page now that I think about it. I'd still leave Corrinna's page as a separate page, given the fact Corrinna unintentionally trolled Chris and Chris went on about how sad he was about her especially with Julie, along with Cole since he's notable even aside from Chris and the fact we have significant correspondence from him that brings to light Bob and Barb's true nature. Of course, Bob and Barb would still have their own respective pages and such. But yeah, maybe a page related to the family tree page like "List of Chris's minor family members" or something like that.

:It might be interesting to have a list of characters mentioned in Chris's videos, to document how many people have been mentioned by Chris, even in passing, in his videos. But I think this should also be separate from the family members page, where details about family members who have been mentioned in videos (such as Jonathan and whoever else I might be missing) could go into more detail. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:58, 2 July 2009 (CEST)

Alright, I'll write up a [[Minor Family Members]] page and add the less-notable ones. Corrina and Cole wouldn't work with it anyway, as I believe they've been mentioned on more than one occasion and in Cole's case there are a good ammount of emails sent by him, plus that photo set of him at Chris' 18th birthday, making them more frequent and notable. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 10:03, 2 July 2009 (CEST)

== Honorary Honor ==

For posting that video of the LBP so soon, I want to recognize you for it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:44, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks bro. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 22:49, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

== What's the song you used... ==

For the transition in your Michale Snyder fan video? It's awesome.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 20:37, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be0JuT7qRQo Curse you Slanderous Trolls. It was Video of the Now a while back; Ah believe de MP3 link is in the description dere. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 21:46, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Assignment ==

Thank you for taking the initiative to get more involved with the CWCki, as I wish more people on PVCC would do. One thing that is always appreciated is transcribing [[:Category:Media_needing_transcription|media needing transcription]]. I forget, are you artistically inclined? If you are, I'd get involved with the [[Artist's Commune]] and jazz up articles without pictures with some ORIGINAL CONTENT. You could also do stuff like spellchecking, correcting for bad grammar and style, and fact checking which is always good too.

This should get you started but if you need more ideas, just let me know and I'll think of some more things. You can always refer to the [[CWCki:Priority_Listing|priority listing]] if you need ideas.

Good luck to you on your mission.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:49, 1 January 2011 (PST)

== Hello ==

I'm Mr. Snuffleupagus! ''[roars with fangs showing and eyes turning bright red]'' RAAARRRGGGHHH! --[[User:Snuffleupagus|Snuffleupagus]] 06:43, 3 February 2011 (PST)

Hello, I'm Thorgnzorrg and you're a gigantic faggot. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 11:56, 3 February 2011 (PST)

== Moving pages ==

Next time you want a page move, ask me or another admin first. Just redirecting it to another page loses all the history associated with the page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:58, 8 May 2011 (PDT)
*Sorry. I pitched it on PVCC first but no one seemed to care so I just went ahead with it since the topic is old news; howerever I do apologize if the history lost. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 11:05, 8 May 2011 (PDT)

===AND YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE ELSE?===
I posted [[Talk:Jason_Kendrick_Howell_message#Dispute|this]] on the talk page, given you made some bold edits, I feel you might have something to contribute to the conversation. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:11, 8 May 2011 (PDT)

==Note==

Editing other peoples' user pages without permission is vandalism. I wouldn't have to say this if you guys stopped doing it. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:21, 14 June 2011 (PDT)

Dude, don't do this shit on the CWCki. Seriously, you should be setting a better example, I don't tolerate this shit. If you wanna troll this person, take it to their DeviantArt or YouTube page or whatever.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:11, 14 June 2011 (PDT)

Talk:Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia

2011-07-20T23:57:58Z

Thorgnzorrg:

Disguises

2011-07-20T23:38:14Z

Thorgnzorrg:

As with [[lies|lying]], Chris is not very skilled at the art of [[Disguises|disguises]] and deception.

==Chris's Disguises==

===Bill Riley===
[[Image:BillRiley.jpg|left|thumb|Bill Riley]]
{{quote|You know what we should do, we should make him force himself on his counslor [sic]|Novice Troll Bill Riley (NOT [[Chris|CHRIS]])}}

Bill was a 30 year old man who found nothing strange about female trolls asking about the dimensions of his genitalia. When asked why he was trolling Chris, he claimed that it was because Chris killed Clyde Cash, called him a homo, and sent him a computer virus. He did nothing in the chat except lurk, waiting for trolls to reveal a big plan. When pressured into suggesting ideas of his own, Bill suggested that trolls make Chris rape Rocky. When asked how this would troll Chris, he claimed that Chris would "compare himself" to Rocky mid-rape and see how inferior he was.

Bill was the first of Chris's attempts to impersonate a troll. From the start, there are tons of problems, the least of which being that the man in the photograph Chris provided is very clearly over the age of thirty. Chris made no effort to conceal his highly noticeable Typing Manner. Eventually, he realized he was found out.

 

===Junior Jenkins (a.k.a. JenkinsJinkies)===
[[Image:Fatjenkins.jpg|left|thumb|Junior Jenkins]]
{{quote|I am not a pussy; I am as wild as a serial raper.|Super Troll JenkinsJinkies (NOT [[Chris|CHRIS]])}}

In May 2010, Chris attempted to infiltrate the CWCki under the guise of the 14-year-old Junior Jenkins. After about a month of making minor, unnoticed edits, he created the [[Coffee Place]] article in an attempt to get trolls to go after some random lady. Trolls promptly strung him along, convincing Chris that he had become famous. In an attempt to blend in, Chris tried to imitate what he believed to be the mannerisms of an average troll. He claimed to be a fourteen year old Bostonian, which was highly suspicious considering that [[BlueSpike|a certain troll]] hailed from the exact same city and both were of the same age. As usual, Chris made no Effort to disguise his [[Chris and English|Distinct Typing Pattern]]. He would also randomly spout net jargon like "butthurt" and "mindfuck" with no clear idea of what those phrases actually meant, at one point even using "butthurt" as a verb.

He was also "secretly" terrified of Chris. This was likely another attempt to fit in, only it became a major aspect of Junior's personality after multiple trolls informed him that they were not, in fact, afraid of Chris in the slightest. For example, Junior claimed that he was petrified with shock upon "witnessing" the destruction of Chris's PS3.

Chris abandoned Junior after he became worried that the police might mistake him for a troll and arrest him.

 

===The Real Chris Chandler===
[[Image:Liquidd.jpg|left|thumb|Liquid Chris]]
{{quote|I'm just gonna keep bangin' your breasts over and over again until you get the first DOSAGE of my comeuppance!|[[Liquid Chris|Liquid Chris]] (NOT [[Ian Brandon Anderson|CHRIS]])}}

During the Liquid saga, Chris attempted to steal Liquid's girlfriend, [[Kacey]]. Kacey [[Kacey Phone Call|spoke to Chris over the phone]], in which Chris attempted to impersonate her lover. He made no effort to impersonate Liquid's voice, and at one point forgot that he was supposed to be someone else. At one point, he uploaded a video in which he attempted to continue this deception to his own account--something that Liquid would not have been able to do.

Eventually, Chris decided to come clean about it. Kacey was not pleased.

 

===Samantha Thaddeus===
[[Image:Samthad.jpg|left|thumb|Samantha Thaddeus]]
{{quote|I gotta do some grocery shopping, Plus I'm having a few cramps|Teenage Girl Samantha Thaddeus (NOT [[Chris|CHRIS]])}}

Hilarity ensued when Chris attempted to impersonate [[Samantha Thaddeus]]. Despite being in contact with her for an extended period of time prior to assuming control of her email account, his "Samantha" was completely off-track. In his very first email to [[Jack Thaddeus]] under this alias, Chris assumed the mannerisms of a cartoonish male thug working for an evil organization. As Jack strung Chris along, Chris also came into contact with [[Katie Bay E-mails|Katie Bay]]. In both of these emails, Samantha is suddenly a hilarious cross between how Chris thinks women act and how Chris thinks trolls act.

 

===Carlos Chantor===
[[Image:Chantor.jpg|left|thumb|Carlos Chantor]]
{{quote|Experienced for Her Pleasure.|Sexual Master [[Carlos Chantor|Carlos Chantor]] (NOT [[Virgin|CHRIS]])}}

During the summer of 2010, Chris attempted to become a male escort under the alias of Carlos Chantor. He gave up after nobody called him. Oddly enough, this is actually his most practical disguise, as he simply hid away on a corner of the internet where nobody expected him to go, changed his name, and wore normal clothes. It just goes to show how normal Chris could look if he weren't such a lazy slob.

 

===KookyDashy===
[[Image:ponyboy.jpg|left|thumb|Kookydashy.]]
{{quote|My mom said "I didn't raise a daughter", and my father threw the damned "fag" card at me.|Kookydashy}}
Chris joined [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]] under the name KookyDashy in [[April 2011]]. He adopted the alias to avoid his identity as [[Christian Weston Chandler]] impeding his relationship with the tomgirls there, as well as to avoid luring any [[trolls]] to the forum. Little did he know the entire forum consisted of trolls.

==See also==
*[[Lies]]
*[[Chris and cosplaying]]

[[Category:Chris-chan]]

Talk:Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia

2011-07-20T19:31:54Z

Thorgnzorrg:

Talk:Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia

2011-07-20T19:31:28Z

Thorgnzorrg: /* The PIctures */

April 2011

2011-07-20T19:25:34Z

Thorgnzorrg: /* Events */

'''April 2011''' began with Chris continuing to play [[PS3]] and hiding from [[troll]]s, and for most of the month, the only real thing to come out from Chris was a Playstation Network comment, wherein he proclaimed to be a "Tomgirl".

At the end of the month, the context for this weird statement was revealed, as the PSN suffered a worldwide security breach, which lead to Chris's account being hacked again, and shortly thereafter, a bunch of pictures wherein Chris dresses and does makeup like a woman and then goes out in public surfaced on the Internet. It is hotly debated whether this means that Chris is coming out of the closet or that it is yet another plan pertaining to his [[Love Quest]].

==Events==

* 14 April: [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]], the website that made Chris infamous, is taken down and replaced with [http://ohinternet.com/Main_Page Oh Internet]. Chris [[Take that Page DOWN NOW!|finally got his wish]].
* 16 April: It does not last long however, as a [http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Main_Page semi-complete mirror] of Encyclopedia Dramatica, including the Chris-chan page, is established.
* 21 April: [[PlayStation Network]] shuts down after an [[rape|"external-intrusion"]] by hackers, rendering Chris's [[PS3]] unable to connect to the internet and [[PlayStation_Network#Spending_history|impulse-buy large amounts of vidya]].
* 29 April: Several pictures of Chris [[Tomgirl Pictures|dressed as a woman]] are released. [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]] is established.

==References==

<references/>

{{Timeline}}
[[Category:Chronology]]

April 2011

2011-07-20T19:25:20Z

Thorgnzorrg:

'''April 2011''' began with Chris continuing to play [[PS3]] and hiding from [[troll]]s, and for most of the month, the only real thing to come out from Chris was a Playstation Network comment, wherein he proclaimed to be a "Tomgirl".

At the end of the month, the context for this weird statement was revealed, as the PSN suffered a worldwide security breach, which lead to Chris's account being hacked again, and shortly thereafter, a bunch of pictures wherein Chris dresses and does makeup like a woman and then goes out in public surfaced on the Internet. It is hotly debated whether this means that Chris is coming out of the closet or that it is yet another plan pertaining to his [[Love Quest]].

==Events==

* 14 April: [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]], the website that made Chris infamous, is taken down and replaced with [http://ohinternet.com/Main_Page Oh Internet]. Chris [[Take that Page DOWN NOW!|finally got his wish]].
* 16 April: It does not last long however, as a [http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Main_Page semi-complete mirror] of Encyclopedia Dramatica, including the Chris-chan page, is established.
* 21 April: [[PlayStation Network]] shuts down after an [[rape|"external-intrusion"]] by hackers, rendering Chris's [[PS3]] unable to connect to the internet and [[PlayStation_Network#Spending_history|impulse-buy large amounts of vidya]].
* 29 April: Several pictures of Chris [[Tomgirl Pictures|dressed as a woman]] are released. [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia is established]].

==References==

<references/>

{{Timeline}}
[[Category:Chronology]]

Template:Quote of the now

2011-07-20T18:28:25Z

Thorgnzorrg:

{{quote|After I realized my [[Tomgirl|tomgirly]] ways, and starting dressing up in my skirts, I started feeling discomfort in using the Men's restroom. I asked my closest [[gal pal]] if it would be going too far in using the Ladies' room; she told me to go with my feelings. My next skirted outting, I used the ladies' room, and I squatted, holding my [[duck|arrow]] down over the john (so I would be less likely to soil my skirt); it felt good and Right. Days later, though, after 4 more lady trips; a woman complains and tattles on me, and a stereotypical [[Jerk|Brute male]] shouts me out. I felt embarassed [sic]. When in skirt, I am still gonna go to the Ladies, because there is no goin' back for me.| Chris, [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]] }}
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Template:Da update

2011-07-20T18:27:35Z

Thorgnzorrg:

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* 20 [[July 2011|July]]: [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]] is disclosed to the public.
* 7 [[July 2011|July]]: The Facebook page is shut down.
* 5 [[July 2011|July]]: A new [[Facebook]] account is found.
* 19 [[June 2011|June]]: Chris uploads another [[Hippo Flipnote|Flipnote]].
* 10 [[June 2011|June]]: Chris uploads a [[3DS Flipnote|new Flipnote]] demanding that Flipnote Studio be brought to the 3DS.
* 2 [[June 2011|June]]: Chris changes his PSN comment to "[[Chris and English|I No Socialize Online]]"
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Talk:Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia

2011-07-20T18:10:00Z

Thorgnzorrg: