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Talk:Encyclopedia Dramatica

2010-09-04T14:38:38Z

UJ1A1985: /* Blocked */ new section

==To do==
*find some more quotes from Chris on ED, and if someone could find the sauce of the quote I just posted. kthnx. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:15, 10 February 2009 (CET)

* Add some mention of the new People page, and the new places page (added April 5th.) --[[User:Tregnier2795|Tregnier2795]] 02:16, 7 April 2009 (CEST)

==Trolls trolling trolls==
Just to clarify, no, I am not butthurt by ED. However, the faggots there were all like "Chris isn't funny anymore, let's delete this article" (and this was before the fake Vote for Deletion) which really wasn't resolved until people saw the sex tape and were like "Holy crap, I didn't realize he could go that low." --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:34, 20 March 2009 (CET)

== Blocked ==

*Can anyone access the ED page? I can't, somehow, AT&T or Open DNS blocked ED from my server...--[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 07:38, 4 September 2010 (PDT)

Talk:Anime Mid-Atlantic

2010-09-04T14:24:32Z

UJ1A1985: /* Monica Rial */

==Monica Rial==
FYI Monica Rial is an annoying, mouthy bitch IRL. I'm not sure if it's because she's dumb or geniuenly a bitch. But she loves to slag off ex-employees and then leave butthurt retorts on Youtube when someone outs her. She did that on one of my YT accounts a few years ago.

No wonder Chris likes her.--[[User:UncleBastard|UncleBastard]] 23:43, 10 May 2009 (CEST)
* Hahaha, lulz. ^^ Well, it must be hard if the only stuff you get to do is voice crappily drawn japanese twelve-year-olds. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 02:42, 11 May 2009 (CEST)

I wonder what would happen if she met Bruce Campbell? Then again, what if Chris met Bruce Campbell?--[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 07:24, 4 September 2010 (PDT)

== dbz wiki ==

[http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Monica_Rial added a photo] --[[User:One With The Lulz|One With The Lulz]] 22:18, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

User:UJ1A1985

2010-07-12T20:08:00Z

UJ1A1985:

Well, New Year, New Server, and A New ID Name, But Same Urv.

Formerly UJ1A, Creator of the [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|Damien Antaria page]] , as well as the [[Peanuts|Peanuts page.]] Also an Aspie as well, and into cartooning, internet, Pixar, games, working out at the local Y, shopping for art stuffs, and watching movies, especially MST3K (Mystery Science Theater 3000), Superhero, animated, and Bruce Campbell flicks.

Also insane genius who is behind the UrvyVerse stuff.

South Park

2010-06-29T18:42:22Z

UJ1A1985: /* South Park betrays Chris */

'''''South Park''''' is a popular program on Comedy Central that [[Chris]] has plagiarized on more than one occasion with characters from his comic.

==Beel==

[[Image:Beel1.jpg|thumb|left|170px|Beel salutes [[CWCville]]'s [[Chris|Führer]].]]

{{main|Beel}}

Beel is the receptionist at the [[4-cent_garbage.com]] building in ''[[Sonichu 8]]''. His appearance seems to be somewhat based on the Satan character on ''South Park'', with the exception of his lack of facial hair and cloven hooves as featured on Satan. The Satan character on the show is a homosexual, and was engaged in love affairs with, at various times, Saddam Hussein and other male characters.

In addition, he also appears to be a [[homos|homosexual]], based on his fashionably cut and tattered Jean shorts, shirtless upper-body and bulging, rippling abs, as well as his tasteful (compared to Christian's, of course) choice in interior decorating. Another sign of his homosexuality is the apparent lack of [[Glade Plug-in Air Fresheners]], which are tools vital to attracting [[gal-pals|ladies]] and [[china]].

==CADD Chef==

[[Image:CADD_Chef.jpg|thumb|"Grade F destruction"? Really?]]

{{main|CADD Chef}}

CADD Chef is a minor villain. One can easily tell that this character (although based on one of Chris's teachers from [[Piedmont Virginia Community College]]) is a blatant ripoff of Isaac Hayes's "Chef" character from ''South Park'', not just in appearance but also in one of his quotes.

==[[Sonichu and Rosechu's Luv Shack]]==

The title of Chris's gallery of hideous Rule 34 is stolen from the title of one South Park video game, "Chef's Luv Shack".

==[[Sonichu 9]]==

Stan, Kenny, Cartman, Token, and Wendy make cameo appearances in the "Dating Education" episode.<ref>Sonichu 9 http://cwcville.com/SchuComic10P7.jpg</ref>

==''South Park'' betrays Chris==
''South Park'' betrayed Chris by having a new game only released on XBox Live titled ''South Park Let's Go Tower Defense Play!'' on [[Hex Bawx|XBox 360.]] The XBox 360 was also featured in five episodes, ''Tsst'', ''Tonsil Trouble'', ''Guitar Queer-O'', ''Whale Whores'', and the season 14 opener, ''Sexual Healing'' as well. Though the Wii was heavily involved in the two-parter ''Go God Go'', there's no mentioning of the [[PS3|Playstation 3]] in sight, despite the PSP being a major plot device in ''Best Friends Forever''.

==See also==
*''[[Aqua Teen Hunger Force]]''
*''[[Family Guy]]''
*[[Chris Calls Clyde Out]]
*[[CWCFlyingElephants]]
*[[Getting Foam Ed‎]]
*[[Re to Chris No 2 - SHE IS MINE NOW]]
*[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]

==References==
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[[Category:Things Chris has ripped off]]

Peanuts

2010-06-28T08:09:03Z

UJ1A1985:

''Peanuts'' is a long running comic strip created by Charles M. Shultz from October 2, 1950 until February 13th, 2000. Although new strips ended due to the forced retirement, and eventual death of Shultz in 2000, the strips continued to be published. Unfortunetly, [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] decided to bastardize the legacy of the strip (and TV specials) by ripping them off.

With the fat manchild bastardizing and stealing from his creations, Shultz is likely rolling in his grave right about now.

{{stub}}

[[Category: Things Chris has ripped off]]

Talk:Peanuts

2010-06-28T08:07:29Z

UJ1A1985: Created page with '*Page created, marked it as a stub. --~~~~'

*Page created, marked it as a stub. --[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 08:07, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Peanuts

2010-06-28T08:06:46Z

UJ1A1985:

''Peanuts'' is a long running comic strip created by Charles M. Shultz from October 2, 1950 until February 13th, 2000. Although new strips ended due to the forced retirement, and eventual death in 2000, the strips continued to be published. Unfortunetly, [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] decided to bastardize the legacy of the strip (and TV specials) by ripping them off.

{{stub}}

[[Category: Things Chris has ripped off]]

Peanuts

2010-06-28T08:06:01Z

UJ1A1985: Created page with '''Peanuts'' is a long running comic strip created by Charles M. Shultz from October 2, 1950 until February 13th, 2000. Although new strips ended due to the forced retirement, and…'

''Peanuts'' is a long running comic strip created by Charles M. Shultz from October 2, 1950 until February 13th, 2000. Although new strips ended due to the forced retirement, and eventual death in 2000, the strips continued to be published. Unfortunetly, [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] decided to bastardize the legacy of the strip (and TV specials) by ripping them off.

{{stub}}

[[Category: Things Chris ripped off]]

Talk:My big 18th party

2010-06-17T01:31:07Z

UJ1A1985: /* Good Burger? */

==Can you Guess Who?==
Okay, let's play a fun little game:
[[Image:0488-CWC18th19.jpg|center|Girls? In my Chris-chan's house? It's more likely than you think]]
The one on the far right is definitely Tiffany and the girl in the middle with the glasses is Miranda (see Chris's "A Week With Chris Chan"). Is [[Sarah Hammer]] the one on the far left (with green vest and pony tail) or the girl second from the left? And who are the two other girls? You bet your sweet bippy that Chris has photos of these girls in the slide show, we just need to match faces. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:50, 26 March 2009 (CET)

...I forgot to check the OTHER images.

[[Image:0487-CWC18th18.jpg|center]]

Okay, so the girl in the vest is definitely Kellie. Now who's Sarah? Is she the one in the white (she has the same hair in a bun that Chris constantly draws her in) or the one in the red sweater (as seen with Chris below)?:
[[Image:0715-ChristianWSarah.jpg|center]]

I suck at facial recognition, being an ass pie myself, so yeah D:. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:03, 26 March 2009 (CET)
*the bottom pic is labeled "CWCandSarah" or something like that in the slideshow, so that's definitely [[Sarah Hammer]]. also, why the fuck does "Tiffany" have one of two expressions in all of the photos of her...? --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 01:51, 26 March 2009 (CET)
**Yes, it's obvious that it's Sarah in the bottom photo, but given that is the only photo we have to go off of, who is she in the party photos? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:52, 26 March 2009 (CET)
***I'm pretty sure Sarah is the one in white. The facial structures seem to match up better than with the one in the red sweater. --[[User:FrankTheTank|FrankTheTank]] 01:06, 29 November 2009 (CET)
::* Hmmm, I think I'd hit all of them. Expecially the loli-like one with the glasses... [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 03:02, 26 March 2009 (CET)

== His wish ==

I have my doubts that his wish on that birthday was for china. He only started expressing sexual interest in girls once he got to college, and only resolved to get a girlfriend after he was kicked out of that English class, which was in his early 20s. I bet someone like Kimily could coax out what he actually wished for at some point. Until then, it's a mystery. I'm proposing getting rid of the "spoiler alert" for this reason, but I won't do so until I have a second opinion. [[User:Hamsterjelly|Hamsterjelly]] 07:13, 30 August 2009 (CEST)

== Plot holes ==

todo: have Kimily bug him about this lack of information [[User:Hamsterjelly|Hamsterjelly]] 20:49, 23 September 2009 (CEST)

== ''Good Burger?'' ==

*18-year olds usually watch PG-13 or R-rated films (I usually watch a PG-13 movie like ''Superman Returns'' or a Pixar film, yes, Pixar films are art.), but knowing Chris, he likes to watch films no one else cares about. So, why did he watch ''Good Burger''? Either he never knew movies that fit his age group, or he likes childish films. Thank goodness I outgrew ''Good Burger''... --[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 05:40, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
: I don't even think Chris actually watched it, in this picture you can see one of his galpals shoes and a scene from Goodburger on the TV while Chris is opening his presents. I have a good feeling that Chris's "big" 18th party and the time his "galpals" were over for lasted just as long as the movie did, since there's no pictures of them off the couch.([[User:Drlugae|Drlugae]] 13:46, 15 June 2010 (UTC)) [[image:0476-CWC18th7.jpg|thumbnail]]
:: Interesting observation there.--[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 01:31, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Talk:My big 18th party

2010-06-12T05:40:41Z

UJ1A1985: /* Good Burger? */ new section

Talk:Sonichu and Rosechu's children

2010-06-08T08:54:16Z

UJ1A1985: /* The Fry Kids Connection? */ new section

== Possible Inbreds? ==

I know I'm not the first to think this, but who else believes that these little mistakes of the human imagination are imbreds? There are several hints throughout the comic implying an incestuous undertone between Sonichu and Rosechu, plus Chris being their "father" as it is really makes me wonder about this... --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]]
* I wouldn't consider them calling Chris father a hint (he's not really their father, but they both see him as a father figure; still has incestuous undertones, but isn't the same thing) so much as the fact that they, the [[Chaotic Combo]] and [[Silvana]] all originate from the same [[rainbow]]. I don't know how Chris's weird shit works, but wouldn't that make them all (or at least the Chaotic Combo and Silvana, as their eggs came from the rainbow) siblings? --'''[[User:Lime|L]][[User_talk:Lime|i]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|m]][[nudes|e]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 17:12, 1 October 2009 (CEST)
:I am fully aware of that. Still, Chris is their creator, but to him this also counts as their "father". This being as it is alone does imply incest, but yeah there are more hints. As for the Chaotic Combo, yes, that would say they are all related. Chris obviously overlooked this when making the epilogue for Sonichu (lol it was leaked by Vivian). --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]]

Tangentially relevant to this discussion: I added a blurb on the fact that Chris has already paired off Cera with Blake and Bubbles' kid, and the psychological and incestuous undertones of this. If it's a bit long-winded (as I often am), I won't be offended if it gets edited a little. -- [[User:manwithoutabody|manwithoutabody]] 7:13 14 May 2010 (CEST)

==The terrifying part==
No offense, but do we need this hear? It's more or less the same sort of stuff that can be said about the Sonnee and Rosey species in general and not just Sonichu's children. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:04, 20 December 2009 (CET)
*I'll move it, because I think it is more general, but it provides a good insight IMHO. --[[User:Sonichuis44|sonichuis44]] 01:11, 20 December 2009 (CET)

== Growth ==
Someone made a comment on Sandy Rosechu's talk page about how quickly she grew, and it made me think about it a bit. How long have these children been in their infant forms? However long, Sandy was born after them and evolved before them. We can question as to whether he ever plans to age them at all. Chris says he plans on doing this comic for the rest of his life, and while that may be short considering all his health problems, he fully believes he'll be around until 100. So when does he plan to age them, if at all? And in fact, If the Sonichu comic and Chris do last for 25 more years, then will he actually evolve Sonichu into Metonic? And another point this person bought up was that Sonees evolve by having a high hapiness. So the girl whose first words she heard upon entering the world were 'Evan killed Mommy' was happy enough to evolve, but Robbie, Cerah and Christine are somehow even more miserable than that. Just saying. Should I put any of this into the article, or are Chris's future plans for them too off-topic? If it is then I could always put it into Sonichu (Comic). --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:39, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
*Chris's comics, are to him like a tv show, and in some tv shows, like the simpsons, and family guy, no matter how much time passes, the characters mantain their age, even if they have birthdays, and if questioned about it, its most likely that chris will answer that "sonichu's kids are happy, but they hold an everstone so they don't evolve" or some BS like that, its likely that those kids won't evolve for a while. In short, sonees are easy to evolve, but sonichu's kids are a) refusing to evolve b) using an everstone c)too sad to evolve. And sandy, like chris, probably forgot about simonla until she was reminded the trial day. Only time will tell us what stupid way they evolve.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 23:13, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

** He'll say either A or B if we accuse him of C. If it's A, we confirm that Robbie is a means for Chris to live an eternal childhood with Sarah and Crystal, and we flood the mailbag with letters about Chris teaching a bad lesson. If it's B, Sonichu and Rosechu are horrible parents. Win-win.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 02:53, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

**We'll send in a mailbag letter about that then. We'd probably have to wait a bit first though. It'd no doubt get put aside by the sysop for a mailbag full of letters telling him that he is a sick fuck because of Sonichu 10's contents. We'll wait until it gets calmer first. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 03:20, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

== Not so bad? ==

Am i the only person without a complete and undying hatred for the Sonichu children? i actually feel sad, though Robbie's speech impedment literally gives me headaches, for them (how much hatred they receive) and find them kinda cute...please don't troll me. [[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 04:35, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
:gtfo --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 05:14, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, you are, and yes, you will be trolled now.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 05:29, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
: :([[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 11:50, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
::Stand by for trolling... --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 12:45, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
:::I'll bravely and shamefully accept my fate. >:| [[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 20:26, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Trolling has now commenced... are you feeling trolled yet? --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 21:03, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Umm, don't know. Though i'm feeling hot, so i suppose that counts.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 21:50, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
:Facepalm.jpg --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]] 9:49, 3 May 2010 (EST)
::It's mostly that my hatred for everything wrong that goes in the comic (and around CWC's life) is immdeialty redirected towards Chris. everything else is just pity especially for the poor existance of these little...whatever the hell tehy are supposed to be.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 20:26, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
::Please reference [http://www.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvenTheDogIsAshamed this trope] for advice on how to proceed.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 17:23, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
:You are bad and you should feel bad.-[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:27, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
::I know and i deserve my punishment.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 02:48, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
They're just so WRONG. Everything about them is a testament to how monstrous a person Chris truly is. They are a disgusting mockery of everything a child should be, hideous deformed creatures attempting to masquerade as children, exposing it all as an act when they quote family guy or reveal that they've pissed on other living things for no reason.

They are abominations. An affront to man and god.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:13, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

I thought the ''Eraserhead'' baby was kind of cute and very pitiable, and I still hate these characters to pieces. Well, that's not entirely true; they're actually some of my favourite characters, but only because of how fascinatingly horrific they are. Of all of Chris's characters, these are the ones that seem the most "Chris" to me. Also, I just like horror stories about monstrous births. - [[User:Manwithoutabody|manwithoutabody]] 16:55 17 May 2010

==I can't believe this hasn't been brought up==
Have you noticed how Chris has only included one male child for the Sonichus and Rosechus, this includes Sandy, but seriously it seems like either Chris is a definite pedo or he thinks male children are horrible, and yet he say he already has enough Sonichus and yet he keeps making more Rosechus, is it me or is that the other way around.--[[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 21:35, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
*when you put it that way, the last TRUE and HONEST sonichu ever introcued was jamsta way back in sonichu 7. over the course, he has added like 5 new rosechus.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 21:49, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
** Yeah, it's hilarious that he says that he has enough Sonichus, and and yet he has like twelve Rosechus, makes you wonder if he really thinks that, or if he just wants to validate his straightness more.-- [[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 22:12, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
*** But this proves that chris is totally not a pedofork. what makes chris a pedofork is the existance of zapina though. Although sometimes calling him a pedo may be an insult to pedobear.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 23:13, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
****I don't really think he's a pedo. It's more like he hates JERKS and loves innocent sweet girls, and that this logic gets applied to children as well... fuck that DOES make him sound like a pedo. What I'm trying to say is he hates males so he trys to make most of his characters female.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 13:36, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
**** Beat I have to say that this is Chris's blatant hypocrasy in action, he claims "To have enough Sonichus" and yet the Rosechus in the series out number the Sonichus.-- [[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 20:32, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
****Its not so much hypocrisy as it is him being a retard really. But yeah, he adds more Rosechus because he hates males, and that applies to his Sonichus as well. All the males serve as sues for Chris. When Chris has a male character to represent every aspect of his personality as MoarLurk theorized, then he doesn't need any more male characters and he just adds in females, because he only really likes females. He just doesn't hate the Sonichus because they are essentially him. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:48, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
*No, he hasn't. Kyle hasn't shown up in the comics, but he apparently exists. --[[User:Torako|Torako]] 14:10, 05 June 2010 (UTC)

== The Fry Kids Connection? ==

*Has anyone noticed that two of the kids resemble the Fry Kids from McDonald's? Remember those Fry Kids from the old Happy Meal ads?--[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 08:54, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Sonichu 11

2010-05-28T01:35:25Z

UJ1A1985: /* The 24 April episodes */

{{Unfinished}}
[[Image:Issue 11 Cover.jpg|thumb|TEN YEARS WITHOUT A CEASE AND DESIST LETTER FROM NINTENDO AND SEGA!]]
[[Image:Virginmary.jpg|thumb|Take that, separation of church and state! Also: child molestation.]]
[[Image:Thisemotionyoucallwuvconfusesandinfuriatesus.jpg|thumb|She's addressing Chris.]]
[[Image:Sonichu 11 Teaser.jpg|thumb|[[Alec Benson Leary]]'s rendition.]]

'''''Sonichu 11''''' is the 12th comic in the [[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu comic series]], dated 13 [[August 2009]]. The cover claims to be the 10th anniversary issue, though as it's now past March, 2010, this is now another thing Chris has [[fail| failed]] at.

[[Chris]] began writing this issue while issue 10 was also in production, apparently to have somewhere to put the comic version of [[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas Story]]. Christmas 2009 came and went, and Chris apparently forgot about this unfinished story with 8 pages to go. In the meantime, he was still engrossed in tracing shit for his epic battle with [[Reldnahc]] and the anti-[[gay]] vaccine from the future.

==A Sonichu Christmas==
In [[December 2009]], in response to requests for a Sonichu Christmas special, Chris began to create a comic adaptation of Christmas Story, at the same time as he was working on the original prose version of the story. This marks the second time that Chris's [[Chris and writing|prose]] was adapted into comic form - the short story "[[Sonichu & Rosechu… The Genesis of the Lovehogs]]" served as the basis for episodes 1 and 2 in [[Sonichu 0]].

The comic opens to show the Sonichu family in various states of celebration for the Christmas season, with the house decorated for the holiday. For a wintertime scene, the lawn of 14 Brunchland Lane is impossibly green, while a bike is left out along the side of the house awaiting permanent rusting from the events to follow. This is because Chris [[Scrapbook of Fail|reused]] the [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/images/2/27/SchuComic9P34.jpg original 14 Brunchland Lane picture] seen in [[Sonichu 9]] with a half-assed Photoshopping of the clouds and sky to a dark blue color to reflect the nighttime, the removal of [[Reldnahc]] running down the road, and the addition of poorly-rendered Christmas lights and a wreath onto the house. Chris believes toddlers can do a lot, as Cera, Christine and Robbie hang stockings, rehearse for the overtly Christian school play, and help bake cookies. At least one of them appears to be in elementary school, so Chris likely forgot how old they were supposed to be.

Christine notably plagiarizes a joke from ''[[Family Guy]]'', marking the second time Chris has stolen a ''Family Guy'' joke since [[Sonichu 8]], only this time instead of screwing up the context of the joke he manages to make the already off-color gag (that suggested Jesus's mother wasn't a virgin) more offensive, as it is being uttered by a child who intends to say it at her school play, likely leading to loud gasps, boos, and an expulsion. The scene takes focus on Sonichu and Robbie hanging stockings, Robbie proceeds to butcher a quote from a Holiday classic and they than have a long, boring conversation about what toys Robbie wants, the conversation finally ends with Sonichu giving a diabetes inducing speech about his kids.

Meanwhile Rosechu and Cera make an abnormally small amount of cookies, so that each child is apparently allotted one cookie in an individual plastic bag. Cera makes a big deal about making a special cookie for a Jewish kid in an uncomfortably awkward attempt at sensitivity. The cookie is vanilla flavored, in case the Jewish kid has some kind of food allergy. Rosechu and Cera do not consider that anyone other than Jews might have food allergies. Cera says "I wuv you!" while facing away from her mother and directly at the reader, apparently breaking the fourth wall. Chris really wants more people to love him unconditionally for being special. Robbie and Cera, speaking in complete sentences despite being toddlers, notice that it has snowed, with two feet expected to fall. Sonichu and Rosechu have a long conversation about purchasing groceries for "a few days."

While Sonichu goes to the supermarket, Christine recites [[Wikipedia:Magnificat|Luke 1:45 - 55]] (which Chris types as Luke 14.5 - 55) while Rosechu watches and the children stare on with their soulless green eyes. Incidentally, this Bible verse mentions how GodJesus will reward the humble and [[Chris and his Ego|punish the proud and the mighty]]. While this verse is commonly heard in Protestant churches, there's no way that any public school in the 21st century could get away with anything this overtly religious without fear of legal reprisal. Later, Sonichu returns home with groceries. His trip to the supermarket was uneventful and uninteresting.

The next morning, Sonichu and Rosechu sit in the kitchen drinking coffee. A [[KCWC]] announcer details CWCville school closings, and Sonichu expresses his anticipated enjoyment of a day spent with his family, hot [[tobacky|"coca"]] and a warm [[Axe|shower]]. Rosechu subsequently nags him to clear the snow burying their palatial residence, so Sonichu "bundles up for work." Noticing that all doors and windows are barred by mounds of frozen precipitate, Sonichu decides to demonstrate his unholy powers to his children. "Imitating Santa", Sonichu crouches in the chimney, touches his nose, and with a cry of [[Mary Poppins|"Chim Chim Cheroo"]] flies up the flue.

He rises up out of the chimney looking like a [[niggos|ninja]] because of the soot, and then shakes it off. He then bizarrely uses his gift of sonic speed...
 ...to spend five minutes 'shoveling' the driveway while in his sonic mode, because using an actual shovel is too much [[Monthly tugboat|work]]; never mind that the light and fluffy snow he's moving will be blown towards a busy road and cause a [[Chris and death|tragic accident]]. Exhausted, he then heads back into the house for [[Chris and health#Hygiene|a shower]] making a sound as if he's [[Mass debating|pleasing himself]] while Rosechu looks on holding a hideous novelty Christmas towel as she blesses him.

==The 24 April episodes==
On 24 [[April 2010]], the Sysop uploaded two new episodes from Sonichu 11 to the CWCipedia. These stories picked up where Sonichu 10 left off with a similar dark and downbeat tone: [[Bubbles]] and [[Angelica]] were killed in the bombing of the CWCville Mal-Wart, [[Sandy Rosechu]] was run over by an inattentive driver, [[Wild]] committed suicide in a fit of grief and rage, [[Christine]] and [[Robbie]] were killed and [[Cerah]] badly injured when the three of them drank drain cleaner, [[Rosechu]] smothered her permanently crippled daughter with a pillow, [[Sonichu]] demanded a divorce, and [[Reginald Sneasel]] decided to show the world his "seven-inch lightning rod."

Despite a surprisingly positive fan response to the new pages, Chris overwrote them a short while later, claiming in a rage-filled [[CWC Blog]] update that they were the work of another artist.

However during The Great Rampage 2.0 (where CWCipedia was hacked for the 2nd time), the pages were restored. But the next day, the pages were deleted again when the CWCipedia dies for the final time.

But, with Mao saving the site, it's likely the pages were back after he saved the site.

==External links==
* [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Issue_11/Page_1 Sonichu #11]
* [http://www.mediafire.com/?duyz0z2gyd2 Sysop's not TRUE and HONEST version of pages 13-38]

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[[Category:Sonichu comic book issues]]

Sonichu 11

2010-05-27T21:59:17Z

UJ1A1985: /* The 24 April episodes */

{{Unfinished}}
[[Image:Issue 11 Cover.jpg|thumb|TEN YEARS WITHOUT A CEASE AND DESIST LETTER FROM NINTENDO AND SEGA!]]
[[Image:Virginmary.jpg|thumb|Take that, separation of church and state! Also: child molestation.]]
[[Image:Thisemotionyoucallwuvconfusesandinfuriatesus.jpg|thumb|She's addressing Chris.]]
[[Image:Sonichu 11 Teaser.jpg|thumb|[[Alec Benson Leary]]'s rendition.]]

'''''Sonichu 11''''' is the 12th comic in the [[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu comic series]], dated 13 [[August 2009]]. The cover claims to be the 10th anniversary issue, though as it's now past March, 2010, this is now another thing Chris has [[fail| failed]] at.

[[Chris]] began writing this issue while issue 10 was also in production, apparently to have somewhere to put the comic version of [[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas Story]]. Christmas 2009 came and went, and Chris apparently forgot about this unfinished story with 8 pages to go. In the meantime, he was still engrossed in tracing shit for his epic battle with [[Reldnahc]] and the anti-[[gay]] vaccine from the future.

==A Sonichu Christmas==
In [[December 2009]], in response to requests for a Sonichu Christmas special, Chris began to create a comic adaptation of Christmas Story, at the same time as he was working on the original prose version of the story. This marks the second time that Chris's [[Chris and writing|prose]] was adapted into comic form - the short story "[[Sonichu & Rosechu… The Genesis of the Lovehogs]]" served as the basis for episodes 1 and 2 in [[Sonichu 0]].

The comic opens to show the Sonichu family in various states of celebration for the Christmas season, with the house decorated for the holiday. For a wintertime scene, the lawn of 14 Brunchland Lane is impossibly green, while a bike is left out along the side of the house awaiting permanent rusting from the events to follow. This is because Chris [[Scrapbook of Fail|reused]] the [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/images/2/27/SchuComic9P34.jpg original 14 Brunchland Lane picture] seen in [[Sonichu 9]] with a half-assed Photoshopping of the clouds and sky to a dark blue color to reflect the nighttime, the removal of [[Reldnahc]] running down the road, and the addition of poorly-rendered Christmas lights and a wreath onto the house. Chris believes toddlers can do a lot, as Cera, Christine and Robbie hang stockings, rehearse for the overtly Christian school play, and help bake cookies. At least one of them appears to be in elementary school, so Chris likely forgot how old they were supposed to be.

Christine notably plagiarizes a joke from ''[[Family Guy]]'', marking the second time Chris has stolen a ''Family Guy'' joke since [[Sonichu 8]], only this time instead of screwing up the context of the joke he manages to make the already off-color gag (that suggested Jesus's mother wasn't a virgin) more offensive, as it is being uttered by a child who intends to say it at her school play, likely leading to loud gasps, boos, and an expulsion. The scene takes focus on Sonichu and Robbie hanging stockings, Robbie proceeds to butcher a quote from a Holiday classic and they than have a long, boring conversation about what toys Robbie wants, the conversation finally ends with Sonichu giving a diabetes inducing speech about his kids.

Meanwhile Rosechu and Cera make an abnormally small amount of cookies, so that each child is apparently allotted one cookie in an individual plastic bag. Cera makes a big deal about making a special cookie for a Jewish kid in an uncomfortably awkward attempt at sensitivity. The cookie is vanilla flavored, in case the Jewish kid has some kind of food allergy. Rosechu and Cera do not consider that anyone other than Jews might have food allergies. Cera says "I wuv you!" while facing away from her mother and directly at the reader, apparently breaking the fourth wall. Chris really wants more people to love him unconditionally for being special. Robbie and Cera, speaking in complete sentences despite being toddlers, notice that it has snowed, with two feet expected to fall. Sonichu and Rosechu have a long conversation about purchasing groceries for "a few days."

While Sonichu goes to the supermarket, Christine recites [[Wikipedia:Magnificat|Luke 1:45 - 55]] (which Chris types as Luke 14.5 - 55) while Rosechu watches and the children stare on with their soulless green eyes. Incidentally, this Bible verse mentions how GodJesus will reward the humble and [[Chris and his Ego|punish the proud and the mighty]]. While this verse is commonly heard in Protestant churches, there's no way that any public school in the 21st century could get away with anything this overtly religious without fear of legal reprisal. Later, Sonichu returns home with groceries. His trip to the supermarket was uneventful and uninteresting.

The next morning, Sonichu and Rosechu sit in the kitchen drinking coffee. A [[KCWC]] announcer details CWCville school closings, and Sonichu expresses his anticipated enjoyment of a day spent with his family, hot [[tobacky|"coca"]] and a warm [[Axe|shower]]. Rosechu subsequently nags him to clear the snow burying their palatial residence, so Sonichu "bundles up for work." Noticing that all doors and windows are barred by mounds of frozen precipitate, Sonichu decides to demonstrate his unholy powers to his children. "Imitating Santa", Sonichu crouches in the chimney, touches his nose, and with a cry of [[Mary Poppins|"Chim Chim Cheroo"]] flies up the flue.

He rises up out of the chimney looking like a [[niggos|ninja]] because of the soot, and then shakes it off. He then bizarrely uses his gift of sonic speed...
 ...to spend five minutes 'shoveling' the driveway while in his sonic mode, because using an actual shovel is too much [[Monthly tugboat|work]]; never mind that the light and fluffy snow he's moving will be blown towards a busy road and cause a [[Chris and death|tragic accident]]. Exhausted, he then heads back into the house for [[Chris and health#Hygiene|a shower]] making a sound as if he's [[Mass debating|pleasing himself]] while Rosechu looks on holding a hideous novelty Christmas towel as she blesses him.

==The 24 April episodes==
On 24 [[April 2010]], the Sysop uploaded two new episodes from Sonichu 11 to the CWCipedia. These stories picked up where Sonichu 10 left off with a similar dark and downbeat tone: [[Bubbles]] and [[Angelica]] were killed in the bombing of the CWCville Mal-Wart, [[Sandy Rosechu]] was run over by an inattentive driver, [[Wild]] committed suicide in a fit of grief and rage, [[Christine]] and [[Robbie]] were killed and [[Cerah]] badly injured when the three of them drank drain cleaner, [[Rosechu]] smothered her permanently crippled daughter with a pillow, [[Sonichu]] demanded a divorce, and [[Reginald Sneasel]] decided to show the world his "seven-inch lightning rod."

Despite a surprisingly positive fan response to the new pages, Chris overwrote them a short while later, claiming in a rage-filled [[CWC Blog]] update that they were the work of another artist.

However during The Great Rampage 2.0 (where CWCipedia was hacked for the 2nd time), the pages were restored.B But the next day, the pages were deleted again when the CWCipedia dies for the final time.

==External links==
* [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Issue_11/Page_1 Sonichu #11]
* [http://www.mediafire.com/?duyz0z2gyd2 Sysop's not TRUE and HONEST version of pages 13-38]

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[[Category:Sonichu comic book issues]]

CWCipedia

2010-05-27T18:22:47Z

UJ1A1985: /* CWCipedia gets gang-banged (again) */

{{Honest}}
{{protip|Incorporate stuff from CWCipedia into CWCki to get the high score!!}}

[[Image:CWCipedia Introduction.jpg|thumb|right|Chris proudly claims the CWCipedia in the name of [[CWCville]]]]

{{quote|Abandon hope all ye who enter here.|From Dante's Divine Comedy, eerily summing up CWCipedia}}

'''CWCipedia''' (not to be confused with the [[CWCki]]) is a wiki set up for the sole use of [[Christian Weston Chandler]], as a sort of personal Wiki as opposed to Chris vandalizing the CWCki with his bullshit. Furthermore, it is designed to allow Chris to "get the truth out" as he so desired to do on [[User:ChrisChanSonichu profile|his Wikipedia profile]].

Since its inception, Chris has more or less treated the page as free web hosting, a place to put his comics without having to pay for the resulting bandwidth use. CWCipedia also served as the ultimate test of the use of MediaWiki software and software usability, in that it strove to create a platform that even an [[autism|autistic]] manchild/lazy fuck can easily use. Of course, Chris, being a retarded fuckface, still managed to fuck it up from time to time, even with a Sysop holding his hand.

Chris has a tendency to let his mind wander while typing up his entries. For example, in his [[Sonichu]] article he ends up going off on a rant explaining what had happened to [[Kel]] (even though it didn't involve Sonichu at all), and the fact that Chris himself is the leader of the [[CWCville]] Pokémon gym. This leads into Chris describing his supposed gym at length, what Pokémon he has in his team, and his collection of Pokémon in the game (in addition to their level and how he had leveled them). This somehow leads to a fantastically retarded idea for a Pokémon game system that's basically just the holographic projectors from [[Yu-Gi-Oh]], except with Pokémon. After all of that dumbfuckery he gets back to talking about Sonichu again.

==The early days==
Several months after Chris began using the wiki proceeded without incident. He was able to display his comics and music, share more details of his personal life, reveal more background information about the world of CWCville, and shout his bizarre homophobic rantings from the virtual rooftops in peace. The administrators of the site remained a silent, benevolent force behind the scenes.

Towards the end of 2009, this would change.

==CWCipedia advertisements==
[[Image:Untitled.png|thumb|100px|left|Ensuring that Chris sees them EVERY TIME he visits.]]
[[Image:NewCWCipediaFrontpage.jpg|thumb|Chris's revised frontpage]]
As 2009 came to a close, CWCipedia's operators ran into financial trouble keeping the site in the black, given the many hits it gets on a daily basis and the profusion of large files held on its servers. To help keep the site up and running for its TRUE and LOYAL [[fans]], the Sysop that maintains the website for Chris turned to selling advertising space on the site. Keep in mind that these ads were all randomly generated by metadata created by Chris and the people browsing his site, not special hand-crafted ads made by [[trolls]]. Due to the somewhat complicated laws of the jurisdiction in which the servers reside, ads may only be purchased from within the European Union.

Chris makes '''NO''' money from the advertisement revenue. All of it goes to keeping CWCipedia up and running.

Chris responded to these ads with a few complaints to the admin and [[Jack Thaddeus]], who has so far been the only donor who has delivered over €1000, qualifying him to create custom advertisements on the site. [[CWC Blog#7 December 2009|In a blog post]], Chris hoped that ''someone'' within the EU would be able to step up and donate so much money that they'd not only qualify for custom ads, but help to ''remove'' the homoerotic ads that appeared on the site (even though most online advertisers give ''no'' such heavy-handed preferential treatment to premium advertisers, and indeed, no such stated policy exists in CWCipedia either). Even though it may be tempting for some European fans, the appeal of this opportunity seems limited. You can buy a [[PS3]] for you ''and'' your friend with €1000. Or buy three [[Hex Bawx|Hex-Boxes]]. Or four Wiis. Who ''would'' pass up such an opportunity?

On 27 December 2009, the ad space, which was previously at the very bottom of CWCipedia's navbar on the left side of the page, was moved to the very top of the navbar. Another ad appeared on Chris's main page beside the logo. On 28 December, Chris flipped out and replaced it with an ad for the his beloved [[My Coke Rewards]] program. The Sysop, however, [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/User_talk:ChrisChanSonichu#Do_NOT_tamper_with_the_advertisements scolded Chris], telling him that ''he'' had no control over the ads.

On 30 December 2009 Chris, unable to change the now-protected main page, lashed out the only way he could, by adding a block of text to the bottom of his (already hideously ugly) front page image, declaring that no ads were allowed on that page. In the message he said that he would not remove this block of text until the offending ads were removed from the main page. To put this in perspective, Chris ''defaced his own website'' in an attempt to get someone else to stop advertising on it. You can guess how well that worked.

On 2 January 2010, Chris began cluttering the website with his ads again, shilling for [[CWC Cola|Coca-Cola]], [[Wild Sonichu|Avatar]] and [[It's UGH!|Proposition 8]]. He took his self-bestowed title of [[Address to my Cwcipedia SysOp|Captain]] to an absolute extreme, posting the following message to CWCipedia:
{{quote| I have another pair of pages for today, and I will answer another [[Mailbag]] or two after uploading. But I also have another announcement; Jack thinks he can get away with occupying my Introduction Box with ANY Ad, well I have a few items I fully support as well. I will be placing my own Ads around the Cwcipedia, as I assert My Rights to do so [[Chris and his Ego|as Captain of this website vessel]].
'''I DO NOT WANT MY ADS REMOVED OR REPLACED BY ANYONE OTHER THAN MYSELF.'''}}

Additionally, Chris posted the following message to his [[Twitter]]:
{{quote|C.C. Sonichu says:...Removal of Any of ALL of MY Ads is consider Mutiny, and [[Chris and Anger|Mutiny will not be tolerated.]] Stay Safe, and have a good day.}}

As to whether or not [[Jack Thaddeus|Jack]] will receive forty lashes less one for his inevitable insubordination, Chris has no comment.

Due to gay porn ads on the CWCipedia, on 01 [[February 2010]] Chris [[Address to Mao, the S.O.B.|unleashed]] a [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|curse]] upon Mao "Bamboo" Ling, after which he "[[Apologies to Alec and Evan|apologized]]" to Alec and [[Evan]].

Eventually, on 26 [[February 2010]], Jack Thaddeus returned with an unclickable ad reading "JACK'S BACK" (in text, later converted to a jpeg) and featuring a picture of a man releasing his [[navy]]. Chris, surprisingly, never reacted, even though he has a [[Homos|giant homophobic ass]].

{{collapsible
|CWCipedia advertisement gallery. ''Note: The captions in this gallery are the alt text and links for the ads.''
|<gallery>
Image:CWCipediaAudiobookAd.jpg|[http://www.youtube.com/user/vivitheg#g/c/4EAA2A54AFDDFBE1 Watch the newest audiobooks here!]
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Image:AxeAd1.png|We all know how [[homos|manly]] [[Axe]] is.
Image:AxeAd2.jpg|In stores now!
Image:Beepboop.png|[http://answers.polldaddy.com/poll/2571589/ PollDaddy Answers Poll]
Image:DateThree.png|[http://www.lotsofloves.com/ Quit playing the waiting game!]
Image:DebtConsolidation.gif|A [[Chris and money| Chris and his money]] are soon parted
Image:DicksSporting.png|[http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/home/index.jsp No Joke]
Image:Diversity.png|But [[niggos|"No Darkies"]]
Image:DuckPreservationSociety.png|[http://www.woodducksociety.com/ You should always take good care of your duck!]
Image:Eyesight.png|Plus, if you go blind, you can't enjoy shirtless men.
Image:Fkinglie.png
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Image:GayAutisticSingles.jpg|The man of your dreams could be living next door!
Image:GayAutisticSon.jpg|I bet Chris [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes|Could.]] [[GameStop Be A Star Sweepstakes|Twice]].
Image:GayDrawing1.png|[[Sonichu (comic)|Case in point.]]
Image:GayDrawing2.png|You know what sounds like [[Autism|artistic]]?
Image:GayForGod.png|[[Rocky Shoemaker|Rocky]] Approves.
Image:GayOtakuSexClub.jpg|Can I bring my [[Anime Wings]]?
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Image:Heavenlyreward.png|After you die, you get your [[Semen#Comeuppance|Comeuppance]].
Image:HEXBAWKSad.png|A [[Hex Bawx|"Life upgrade"]].
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Image:HGwait4u2.png|AUTISM HOOOOOOU~
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Image:JustGuys.png|There's nothing wrong with [[High_school#Social_life|only hanging out with one gender]]
Image:Knight.png
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Image:Kool-Aid.png|It's recommended by 9 out of 10 High Functioning Autistics
Image:LearnAboutIslam.png|Chris has lots of [[mailbag|fans in the middle east]]
Image:Lipitor.png|Better [[Chris and health|stop taking it]] before it makes you [[homos|gay]]
Image:Mystery pic.png|Can you identify our mystery penis?
Image:Naivewater.png|[[Naïve|It's not what you think it is]]
Image:OK2BGay.png|[http://okaytobegay.blogspot.com/ There's a big difference between bending down and kneeling over]
Image:OxieCleanAd.gif|GETS OUT AUTISM, FAST! HERE'S HOW TO ORDER!
Image:PickelParty.png|Sounds promising
Image:PicklePops.png|Pop a Pickle in your mouth today!
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Image:VirginiaLaw.png|[[Jerkop|I am the LAW]]
Image:CWCipediaChrisLesGayAd.png|[http://www.eflgc.org.uk/ What do you mean, 'gay and Christian'? It's not possible... or is it?]
Image:Asperchuissue5ad.jpg|It seriously is.

</gallery>}}

==The Twitter feed==
{{main|Twitter}}

On 25 December 2009, the WikiSysop added a live Twitter feed to the [[Mailbag|mailbag]]. This was short-lived, as on the early morning of the 27th Chris removed it in a fit of rage and added the following note:

{{quote|o I will have NO DISCUSSIONS GOING ON BEHIND MY BACK ON MY OWN WEBSITE WHATSOEVER!

I DO NOT SUPPORT YOU GOD DAMN GAYS!!! I F***ING HATE ALL OF YOU WHO ARE THE MAJORITY OF TROLLS WHO MESS WITH ME AND MY LIFE!

GO GET YOUR OWN LIFE AND LEAVE ME ALONE!!!

NO TWITTER ALLOWED!!!|

--ChrisChanSonichu 04:31, 27 December 2009 (CET) }}

Exactly five minutes later Chris would create a special page for the [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Twitter Twitter] feed, and delete the homophobic outburst quoted above. Chris would create a Twitter account for himself [[Chris and hypocrisy|the very next day]], regaling his fans with stories of him doing yardwork. The wise and magnanimous Wiki Administrator later put to the feed to the front page of CWCipedia, due to the fact that ''(ahem)'' it probably needed some wider exposure.

== A history of (un)availability ==
===CWCipedia closed due to a<strike>I</strike>DS===
[[Image:CWCipedia-Home-Copyright.jpg|thumb|The CWCipedia as it appeared on 1/1/10]]

During the last weeks of 2009, Chris became more infuriated as the gay ads continued piling up. In desperation, Chris began placing ads of his own that didn't inspire uncomfortable questions about his sexuality. The Sysop became furious at Chris's unauthorized interference and warned him that if he didn't remove the ads, serious consequences could happen.

On 2 January 2010, the CWCipedia was served a cease and desist notice by the Coca-Cola Company for its unauthorized use of their logo on the site. Thus, the Sysop was forced to close the website for a few days until the matter could be resolved. Having learned a little first-hand regarding what [[Chris and copyright|copyright law]] is all about, Chris issued an [[This_was_my_fault|apology]] on YouTube. In the video he claimed that he thought Coke would appreciate the free advertisement, but he is completely unaware that no self-respecting company would ever want their product to be associated with his website of fail.

Within a few days the site was returned to normal.

===CWCipedia closed (again) due to theft===
[[Image:Cwcipedia closed again.jpg|thumb|right|The CWCipedia's source page as of 2/6/10]]
In the early morning of 6 February 2010, the CWCipedia was closed down again, this time thanks to a DMCA request from representatives of [[Evan|Evan George]]. According to the request, Chris's use of the character [[Simonla Rosechu]] on his website and in his comics infringes upon Evan's intellectual property, as Simonla is clearly a derivative of Evan's character [[Fan:Simonchu|Simonchu]]. This was most likely triggered by Chris's announcement, [[5_February_2010|in a video from 5 February]], that he agreed to do away with Simonla and stop featuring her in his comics, but only at an unspecified "later" time.

Three days after the CWCipedia was locked to edits, it was wiped from the internet entirely. In its place appeared a redirect link to Asperpedia; however, due to a bug, it redirected to an online role-playing game, ''Dogs of the Seas''.

===CWCipedia lives on===
On 12 February 2010, the CWCipedia was revived to a certain extent. Although it was still locked to edits and only a "login required" screen was accessible, it was functional enough for Alec Benson Leary to display the first two pages of "[[Asperchu#Sonichu_Revolution|Sonichu Revolution]]." The next day, Chris fulfilled [[Evan]]'s request and the CWCipedia was restored for all people to see. "Sonichu Revolution" continued onward from there, prominently featured at the top of every page of the CWCipedia.

On 24 February 2010, a new set of ads appeared on the CWCipedia, calling Chris out on his [[Christian Love Day (video)|unwarranted self-importance]] on his birthday, with a message from [[Fan: Moon-Pals|Sean]] imploring fans to give gifts to victims in Haiti instead. The next day, CWCipedia vanished for a couple of minutes for unknown reasons. Likely due to Wild and Simonla's [[Sandy Rosechu|bastard child]]. When it returned, for a few days visitors were treated to the sight of a series of animated ads featuring gigantic ejaculating cocks, revenge from Jack Thaddeus in response to Chris's execution of the Asperpedia Four at the end of [[Sonichu 10]].

===CWCipedia closed due to parody===
{{quote|Also, you might want to take a look at your site before you go around advertising it... Some pretty vulgar vandalism you have going on there on a majority of pages.|Some guy on LittleBigWorkshop. Chris never read this and discovered the vandalism the next day.}}

Going into March 2010, Chris appeared to lose all interest in updating the site or presenting any meaningful new content. He neglected updating the Mailbag and stopped uploading new comic pages. His only additions to the site in the first three weeks of March were a series of rants directed at trolls and his fans, where he accused them of breaking up his pursuit of [[the Wallflower]] and complained that the demand for new Sonichu comics was ruining his life.

On 18 March 2010, CWCipedia was taken down and replaced with a redirect to a [[parody]] version of the website run by [[Mao]]. The Sysop had decided to allow Mao to buy a permanent redirect for 100 dollars. Since Chris was the captain, he decided to sail the U.S.S. CWCipedia into an iceberg and let it sink, making Jack pull all his funding and forcing the Sysop to shut the site down for good.

===[[CWCipedia vandalism|CWCipedia opened for everybody]]===
{{Quote|STOP THIS!!! THIS IS MY DOMAIN, and I WILL NOT HAVE YOU FAGGOTS SCREW IT UP!!!|Chris, somewhat upset.}}
[[Image:Niggachris.jpg|thumb|One of the hundreds of images uploaded by trolls during their epic vandalism.]]

A day later, however, the original CWCipedia returned. At the same time, Mao was given sysop, bureaucrat, and oversight powers on the site, suggesting the arrival of a new "captain" on deck. The result was much good vandalism, most notably on the main page itself, by "Kine", "SEANBOTMK2", "ALECBOTMK2", "EVANBOTMK2", and "Metal Asperchu." Soon, account creation was enabled for all and the website was utterly vandalized in a flurry of [[duck|genitalia]].

===CWCipedia closed to outside edits again===
Early on 22 March WikiSysop returned to the site after being [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=User_talk:ChrisChanSonichu&curid=46&diff=5987&oldid=5928 busy on other projects] and quickly reversed everything back to the pre-Mao state of the site. However much of the pictoral vandalism continues to remain in the history of many of the pages, and several pages were not changed back, either due to WikiSysop skipping them over or not caring.

===Broken dead===

During the early hours of 31 March, the front page of the CWCipedia [[Patti Chandler|decomposed]] into HTML code. This was attributed to the nature of the 110mb server. The [[Honest content|true and honest]] version created by [[Mao]] is still up and running.

===Resurrection===

Whether it was through coincidence or an act of Godbearjesus, the CWCipedia came back on Easter Sunday. It is more likely that some technicians actually worked through the easter weekend just so an autistic manchild can carry on putting up badly drawn comics when he feels like it for his [[Trolls|fans]].

===Traitorous mutiny===

On 24 [[April 2010]], the sysop uploaded the rest of [[Sonichu 11]] and updated the [[Captain's Log]]. However, many quickly learned that these new pages may not have been as true and honest as they first appeared, as it involved [[Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]] filing for divorce, [[Reginald]] whipping [[pickle|it]] out in front of [[Robbie]], Sandy gets hit by a car, Wild commits suicide by blowing his head off, and all three of the [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Children|Sonichu kids]] getting killed by drinking detergent (actually, Cerah survives, but was put out of her misery by being smothered with a pillow). Two days later, Chris discovers the vandalization and replaces all of the images with a disclaimer that work on Sonichu 11 was ongoing. He then called out on the sysop's "traitorous mutiny", but was willing to forgive her. He then ranted about how he'll find peace off the internet, [[Youtube Finale|suggesting he may]] [[03212010 C-Ya Later.MOV|quit the internet]]... [[Lie|again]]. (SPOILER ALERT: He didn't.)

===A new face===

{{quote|DO NOT "[[South Park|SOUTH PARK]]" MY WORK.|Chris, on Daria's changes. What he means by this is currently unknown.}}

On 13 [[May 2010]], a new user called DariaCamacho appeared on the CWCipedia. She then proceeded to edit the main page and its templates as well as making new character bios. Chris, still highly paranoid after [[Jackie e-mails|Jackie]], reverted her edits on 14 May. The next day, displaying HTML skills similar to Chris, she broke the main page, which was again reverted, and added a message to her talk page asking Chris why he didn't appreciate her edits. [[Ego|We all know why.]] Chris then added his own response on 16 May, telling her not to "[[South Park]]" his work.

===CWCipedia gets gang-banged (again)===

On 26 May 2010, CWCipedia has been hacked, again. And once again, it's open to everyone. Several pages, once blanked and/or deleted were restored, and ''[[Sonichu 11]]'' had the not true and not honest comic pages back up.

===CWCipedia abandoned===

Frustrated by the this new wave of trolling, Chris, [[100 2188|in a message in a recent video]], declares the CWCipedia abandoned:

{{quote|As of today, May 27, 2010, I, Christian Weston Chandler, relinquish what was the Cwcipedia. I am keeping ownership of what it was before yesterday, as well as my Sonichu, Rosechu, Cwcville and all therein.

I stand by my own past statements, and I ignore and heavily disagree with, detest and abolish all that are stated Against me on the internet.

I never meant to become famous, and I wish to go back to when there was little against me.}}

==See also==
* [[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence]]

==External links==
*[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Main_Page CWCipedia]
*[http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Main_Page CWCipedia (pre-vandalism)]
*[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Special:Recentchanges?hidebots=0 Recent Changes] - monitor Chris's (and the bots') latest updates
*[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&feed=rss Recent Changes RSS Feed] - receive Chris's latest updates automatically

[[Category:Chris-chan]]
[[Category:Chris's websites]]
[[Category:CWCipedia]]

Sonichu 11

2010-05-27T18:20:57Z

UJ1A1985: /* The 24 April episodes */

{{Unfinished}}
[[Image:Issue 11 Cover.jpg|thumb|TEN YEARS WITHOUT A CEASE AND DESIST LETTER FROM NINTENDO AND SEGA!]]
[[Image:Virginmary.jpg|thumb|Take that, separation of church and state! Also: child molestation.]]
[[Image:Thisemotionyoucallwuvconfusesandinfuriatesus.jpg|thumb|She's addressing Chris.]]
[[Image:Sonichu 11 Teaser.jpg|thumb|[[Alec Benson Leary]]'s rendition.]]

'''''Sonichu 11''''' is the 12th comic in the [[Sonichu (comic)|Sonichu comic series]], dated 13 [[August 2009]]. The cover claims to be the 10th anniversary issue, though as it's now past March, 2010, this is now another thing Chris has [[fail| failed]] at.

[[Chris]] began writing this issue while issue 10 was also in production, apparently to have somewhere to put the comic version of [[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas Story]]. Christmas 2009 came and went, and Chris apparently forgot about this unfinished story with 8 pages to go. In the meantime, he was still engrossed in tracing shit for his epic battle with [[Reldnahc]] and the anti-[[gay]] vaccine from the future.

==A Sonichu Christmas==
In [[December 2009]], in response to requests for a Sonichu Christmas special, Chris began to create a comic adaptation of Christmas Story, at the same time as he was working on the original prose version of the story. This marks the second time that Chris's [[Chris and writing|prose]] was adapted into comic form - the short story "[[Sonichu & Rosechu… The Genesis of the Lovehogs]]" served as the basis for episodes 1 and 2 in [[Sonichu 0]].

The comic opens to show the Sonichu family in various states of celebration for the Christmas season, with the house decorated for the holiday. For a wintertime scene, the lawn of 14 Brunchland Lane is impossibly green, while a bike is left out along the side of the house awaiting permanent rusting from the events to follow. This is because Chris [[Scrapbook of Fail|reused]] the [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/images/2/27/SchuComic9P34.jpg original 14 Brunchland Lane picture] seen in [[Sonichu 9]] with a half-assed Photoshopping of the clouds and sky to a dark blue color to reflect the nighttime, the removal of [[Reldnahc]] running down the road, and the addition of poorly-rendered Christmas lights and a wreath onto the house. Chris believes toddlers can do a lot, as Cera, Christine and Robbie hang stockings, rehearse for the overtly Christian school play, and help bake cookies. At least one of them appears to be in elementary school, so Chris likely forgot how old they were supposed to be.

Christine notably plagiarizes a joke from ''[[Family Guy]]'', marking the second time Chris has stolen a ''Family Guy'' joke since [[Sonichu 8]], only this time instead of screwing up the context of the joke he manages to make the already off-color gag (that suggested Jesus's mother wasn't a virgin) more offensive, as it is being uttered by a child who intends to say it at her school play, likely leading to loud gasps, boos, and an expulsion. The scene takes focus on Sonichu and Robbie hanging stockings, Robbie proceeds to butcher a quote from a Holiday classic and they than have a long, boring conversation about what toys Robbie wants, the conversation finally ends with Sonichu giving a diabetes inducing speech about his kids.

Meanwhile Rosechu and Cera make an abnormally small amount of cookies, so that each child is apparently allotted one cookie in an individual plastic bag. Cera makes a big deal about making a special cookie for a Jewish kid in an uncomfortably awkward attempt at sensitivity. The cookie is vanilla flavored, in case the Jewish kid has some kind of food allergy. Rosechu and Cera do not consider that anyone other than Jews might have food allergies. Cera says "I wuv you!" while facing away from her mother and directly at the reader, apparently breaking the fourth wall. Chris really wants more people to love him unconditionally for being special. Robbie and Cera, speaking in complete sentences despite being toddlers, notice that it has snowed, with two feet expected to fall. Sonichu and Rosechu have a long conversation about purchasing groceries for "a few days."

While Sonichu goes to the supermarket, Christine recites [[Wikipedia:Magnificat|Luke 1:45 - 55]] (which Chris types as Luke 14.5 - 55) while Rosechu watches and the children stare on with their soulless green eyes. Incidentally, this Bible verse mentions how GodJesus will reward the humble and [[Chris and his Ego|punish the proud and the mighty]]. While this verse is commonly heard in Protestant churches, there's no way that any public school in the 21st century could get away with anything this overtly religious without fear of legal reprisal. Later, Sonichu returns home with groceries. His trip to the supermarket was uneventful and uninteresting.

The next morning, Sonichu and Rosechu sit in the kitchen drinking coffee. A [[KCWC]] announcer details CWCville school closings, and Sonichu expresses his anticipated enjoyment of a day spent with his family, hot [[tobacky|"coca"]] and a warm [[Axe|shower]]. Rosechu subsequently nags him to clear the snow burying their palatial residence, so Sonichu "bundles up for work." Noticing that all doors and windows are barred by mounds of frozen precipitate, Sonichu decides to demonstrate his unholy powers to his children. "Imitating Santa", Sonichu crouches in the chimney, touches his nose, and with a cry of [[Mary Poppins|"Chim Chim Cheroo"]] flies up the flue.

He rises up out of the chimney looking like a [[niggos|ninja]] because of the soot, and then shakes it off. He then bizarrely uses his gift of sonic speed...
 ...to spend five minutes 'shoveling' the driveway while in his sonic mode, because using an actual shovel is too much [[Monthly tugboat|work]]; never mind that the light and fluffy snow he's moving will be blown towards a busy road and cause a [[Chris and death|tragic accident]]. Exhausted, he then heads back into the house for [[Chris and health#Hygiene|a shower]] making a sound as if he's [[Mass debating|pleasing himself]] while Rosechu looks on holding a hideous novelty Christmas towel as she blesses him.

==The 24 April episodes==
On 24 [[April 2010]], the Sysop uploaded two new episodes from Sonichu 11 to the CWCipedia. These stories picked up where Sonichu 10 left off with a similar dark and downbeat tone: [[Bubbles]] and [[Angelica]] were killed in the bombing of the CWCville Mal-Wart, [[Sandy Rosechu]] was run over by an inattentive driver, [[Wild]] committed suicide in a fit of grief and rage, [[Christine]] and [[Robbie]] were killed and [[Cerah]] badly injured when the three of them drank drain cleaner, [[Rosechu]] smothered her permanently crippled daughter with a pillow, [[Sonichu]] demanded a divorce, and [[Reginald Sneasel]] decided to show the world his "seven-inch lightning rod."

Despite a surprisingly positive fan response to the new pages, Chris overwrote them a short while later, claiming in a rage-filled [[CWC Blog]] update that they were the work of another artist.

However during The Great Rampage 2.0 (where CWCipedia was hacked for the 2nd time), the pages were restored.

==External links==
* [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Issue_11/Page_1 Sonichu #11]
* [http://www.mediafire.com/?duyz0z2gyd2 Sysop's not TRUE and HONEST version of pages 13-38]

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[[Category:Sonichu comic book issues]]

Talk:100 2188

2010-05-27T07:21:19Z

UJ1A1985: /* Two Things */ new section

Transcribing this nonsense, I guess... [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 05:36, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
:Actually it's "Transcribing DIS BITCH, I guess..." Easy mistake to make.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:24, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
==Name?==
I propose "Rage Against the Internet." [[User:Ganondorfdude11|Ganondorfdude11]] 06:02, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
:When it doesn't have a name, you're supposed to title it as the date it was posted. This video should be called "27 May 2010". What is so hard about this?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:32, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

==I lol'd==

This confirms it for me--Rocky has been drilling the "THE INTERNET IS BAD" dogma into him in the hopes that he'll come to agree with it. But hey, this means Chris has indirectly announced the end of Sonichu(yes we all know that's not true but he doesn't lol).--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 06:41, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

==Hat==

It hides his baldness. Mention? --[[User:thelieisacake|thelieisacake]] 06:41, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

== Two Things ==

*Two things popped up in my head:

1-How many times does Chris say he's straight?

2-Is the "Trucker" look still remind anyone of the Blue Oyster Bar patrons from the first four Police Academy flicks? --[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 07:21, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Adult Swim

2010-05-27T07:14:25Z

UJ1A1985:

'''Adult Swim''' is a late-night programming block on [[Wikipedia:Cartoon Network|Cartoon Network]] primarily catering to adults age 18-24.

Due to [[Chris's]] [[biological clock]], he would stay up late at night and would frequently watch Adult Swim, especially since it catered to two of his chief interests - [[anime]] and [[random access humor]].

He has also downloaded many episodes of various Adult Swim series through the [[List of Chris's PSN video downloads|PlayStation Network]] -- almost $120 worth, as of the fall of 2009.

Of interesting note is the show ''[[Wikipedia:Moral Orel|Moral Orel]]'' (which ended in 2008), which is a claymation mainly focused at pointing out the inherent fallacies and ignorance of fundamentalist Protestantism, which is common in the Midwestern United States and Bible Belt. It openly criticizes the blind faith and intolerance of many American Christians, and people like Chris are exactly who they are making fun of. Chris has stated in the [[Mailbag 35|Mailbag]] that he has watched the show, and said it was "okay". Most likely, all of the jokes and truths go right over his head.

It is also unknown If he watches Metalocalypse, although he prolly hates it because of [[pickles|the drummer's name]]. It's also not known if Chris watches ''The Venture Bros.'' as the character of Dr.Girlfriend has a man's voice.
==Shows that Chris watches==
*''[[Wikipedia:Harvey Birdman|Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law]]
*''[[Wikipedia:Lucy, the Daughter of the Devil|Lucy: Daughter of the Devil]]
*''[[Futurama]]
*''[[Family Guy]]
*''[[Wikipedia:Robot Chicken|Robot Chicken]]
*''[[Don't Trust Any Homos Over There|The Boondocks]]
*''[[Aqua Teen Hunger Force]]
*''[[Chris's Big Night Out II#Chris Needs Females|The Oblongs]]''
*''[[Officer Keino|Home Movies]]''
*Assorted [[anime]] shows.
*''Tom Goes To The Mayor (it's where he stole the idea of a mayors office inside a mall)

==See also==
*[[Harvey Birdman Commercial]]

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Talk:CWCipedia

2010-05-27T07:09:59Z

UJ1A1985: /* The Great Rampage 2.0 */ new section

== Man I wish Chris would stop ==

Thank god he's already half-way there! Ahahahahah. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 03:02, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

== Redirected ==

Is it possible that the CWCipedia was redirected due to Chris's comments in his last video? --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 15:36, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
:*Well, his last video reached the ED message board. This means "Open Season" on Chris's racist arse. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:25, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
:*We'll know if it is replaced by either a message from the NAACP or if several ads involving giant black cocks suddenly show up. Still, the EDF pestering him seems to annoy Chris the most and this will set them off.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 17:42, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

== Mao is awesome ==
The impossible has been done people. Mao has defeated the CWCipedia Royal Navy and comandeered their vessle. This is a golden age for the pirates, and we shall rule the high seas forever! --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:51, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
:I think shit might be getting real here folks.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 22:40, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
::I was talking about how that would be the best way to troll Chris today. Taking his property is the best way to piss him off, and about the only way at them moment. It'll blow Tito out of the water though... --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 23:22, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
:::Vandalism galore. BTW, I uploaded all the images they used to vandalize the place. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 03:57, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
:: Chris never learns from the trolling, taking his CWCipedia wasn't probably a good thing for the CWCki, because the CWCipedia gave a lot of insight info about Chris. Probably Chris will crash into slumber once more and be inactive for a while.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 14:17, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
::We'll have to see. If the damage is too great then probably. Chris is not one for hard work, and there is quite alot to repair. I didn't think that this would happen on quite such a grand scale... --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 16:05, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
::The damage IS too great. There's no way the CWCipedia can be restored without it becoming a clean slate, or it could be moved to this server. Anyway, the vandalism can be found [[CWCipedia vandalism|here]]. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 18:33, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
:The CWCipedia became useless sometime around January when he gave up on mailbags, comic pages, character bio pages and was content on just sitting on his ass playing the [[PS3]]. In fact, when the vandalizing first started he was playing God of War III. Now he's playing Heavy Rain. So yeah. also archive: archive.cogsdev.org [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 19:24, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
::Fair point. He's probably not too bothered then --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 19:25, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
:::Indeed, he'll probably just start up a new website with his monthly tugboat, and I guarantee that the new site will be hacked within days of its creation. The CWCipedia was the only place where Chris could safely post stuff that we could all laugh at. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 20:12, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Odds on his return to cogs at some point? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 20:23, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::Maybe he'll try a site like deviantart once more, like cheezyart or something that is free and it's not hard to use, but in that case, he would get banned shortly.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 20:31, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::If that is the case, then maybe it is in our best intrests to help restore CWCipedia? Thoughts? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:41, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::<s>I'm assuming (hoping) the the PVCC kept an archival copy of the CWCipedia before they invited us to go open season so us dedicated Christorians can reference all the insane crap he wrote. If not, well there's always the page histories</s>. Lol, I'm dumb. Clyde put the archive up earlier on this very page. So now the intellegent thing to do would be to change the templates and cites that link to the CWCipedia to link to the archive instead.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 21:44, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::::And what of the future? Most of all our new info comes from CWCipedia. If thats gone and Chris has no place to put his homophobic rants, then where will our info come from? That Mailbag is a goldmine, and if not for trolls, we would still have a chance of him ansewing it. If Chris makes his own new site, I can promise you that there would not be a mailbag. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 22:09, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::::No worries, if it gets that bad, they'll just put the original CWCipedia back up. Chris is daft enough to brush it off as some sort of hacker anyway. He can't last on his own site, it would be hacked too quickly. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 22:13, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::He can last well on his own site if the ones who HACK IT DON'T DO IT. (WINK). The thing is the mailbags would be lost but fuck it, chris doesn't want to do SHIT anymore. He can easily set up a blog, upload some comic pages on his own. if you want your questions answered ask him yourself. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 15:54, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
:* It's RIP CWCipedia then I guess... The tracker can be redone though, for wherever he chooses to go next, so that's not a great loss, at any rate. --18:00, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Some time ago, Chris came back to the CWCipedia and attempted to revert all of the vandalism that was done to it. As of now, he seems to have stopped. Maybe he's in the process of making a video where he rages about the fact that his wiki has been vandalized to hell. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 18:47, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
* Nope, he made a video about how he's leaving the internet. --[[User:DStecks|DStecks]] 00:17, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

It seems that the WikiSysop took back control of the site, according to [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/User_talk:ChrisChanSonichu#Security_breach this.] --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 02:17, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
:: It could be as well a trap to lure chris, let's wait to see what happens.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 04:19, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm betting Chris will be back soon. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:20, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

== CWCipedia as our official "Uncyclopedia"? ==
I know that a lot of you probably thinks that Uncyclopedia is unfunny, but I am thinking more of the concept behind Uncyclopedia. A sort of place for the more intelligent vandalism and other things, that, while funny, would never fly on the CWCki, and it has already sort of become that, with the massive vandalism lately.--[[User:Blachman|Blachman]] 20:01, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
* Well, forget about that, because the damn Sysop reverted it to its pre-Mao state. Now Chris is gonna be back within a week. --[[User:Marco|Marco]] 03:38, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

== It's Dead, Baby, It's Dead... ==

*I think that the whole CWCipedia is dead, I clicked on the link and it directed me to an error page. Should we make a mention about it? --[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 06:08, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
*Nothing is unusual, it's just 110mb being shit.-- 06:28, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

:*Given Chris's already faulty understanding of religion and the fact it came back on Easter might this inflate Chris's ego even more?
[[User:Shawths|Shawths]]
::*He'll probably proclaim the return of the CWCipedia as a miracle and then proceed to rub it in the faces of those DANG, DIRTY TROLLS in a YouTube video. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 22:55, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

:::*I think that the CWCipedia may have crashed into slumber for awhile, error or not. Keep in mind that Chris wasn't doing ANYTHING on there even before it was hijacked by Mao. Chris hasn't uploaded any new comic pages and hasn't answered any of the mailbag questions for quite at least a month now. This isn't to say Chris won't go back to it (he can't stay off the internet) but he may not use the website until he gets bored and/or forgets about the trolls. --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 23:10, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

==Ressurection==
Disregard that its back. Just had to fucking come back on my birthday of all the days >:(. although its still unlikely Chris will get of his lazy ass and update it though
[[User:Dkd|Dkd]] 15:17, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

==Song placed on it==

So theres a song currently on the Cwcipedia and I was wondering first what is its name, and secondly did chris chose it or did Alec/Mao? --[[User:Shawths|Shawths]]
* I'm guessing it was either the latter or Jack Thaddeus. [[User:N. Onymous|N. Onymous]] 21:33, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

==Asperchu advertisement==

So now there's a gigantic Asperchu ad on top of every article, depicting a page from Asperchu where <s>Christian Weston Chandler</s> Ian Brandon Anderson gets shot in the calves (just desserts considering what he did to Liquid in Sonichu Special 4). How much do you want to bet Chris will completely lose his shit over this and make a vaguely threatening YouTube video about it? [[User:N. Onymous|N. Onymous]] 21:33, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
*[[CWCki:NOTAFORUM|CWCki is not a forum]]. There's plenty of other places to talk about this and this isn't one of those places. This talk page should be reserved for improving the article on the CWCipedia and not CWCipedia related commentary. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:43, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

== Fan Mail ==

So apparently it's like the mailbags, only with more asskissing. I guess I'm getting what I wished for, but I'm not exactly thrilled at the prospect of having to kiss Chris's ass.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 14:58, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

== The Great Rampage 2.0 ==

*Added some info about CWCipedia getting gang raped again, feel free to add stuff on it! --[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 07:09, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

CWCipedia

2010-05-27T07:08:18Z

UJ1A1985: /* CWCipedia gets gang-banged (again) */

{{Honest}}
{{protip|Incorporate stuff from CWCipedia into CWCki to get the high score!!}}

[[Image:CWCipedia Introduction.jpg|thumb|right|Chris proudly claims the CWCipedia in the name of [[CWCville]]]]

{{quote|Abandon hope all ye who enter here.|From Dante's Divine Comedy, eerily summing up CWCipedia}}

'''CWCipedia''' (not to be confused with the [[CWCki]]) is a wiki set up for the sole use of [[Christian Weston Chandler]], as a sort of personal Wiki as opposed to Chris vandalizing the CWCki with his bullshit. Furthermore, it is designed to allow Chris to "get the truth out" as he so desired to do on [[User:ChrisChanSonichu profile|his Wikipedia profile]].

Since its inception, Chris has more or less treated the page as free web hosting, a place to put his comics without having to pay for the resulting bandwidth use. CWCipedia also served as the ultimate test of the use of MediaWiki software and software usability, in that it strove to create a platform that even an [[autism|autistic]] manchild/lazy fuck can easily use. Of course, Chris, being a retarded fuckface, still managed to fuck it up from time to time, even with a Sysop holding his hand.

Chris has a tendency to let his mind wander while typing up his entries. For example, in his [[Sonichu]] article he ends up going off on a rant explaining what had happened to [[Kel]] (even though it didn't involve Sonichu at all), and the fact that Chris himself is the leader of the [[CWCville]] Pokémon gym. This leads into Chris describing his supposed gym at length, what Pokémon he has in his team, and his collection of Pokémon in the game (in addition to their level and how he had leveled them). This somehow leads to a fantastically retarded idea for a Pokémon game system that's basically just the holographic projectors from [[Yu-Gi-Oh]], except with Pokémon. After all of that dumbfuckery he gets back to talking about Sonichu again.

==The early days==
Several months after Chris began using the wiki proceeded without incident. He was able to display his comics and music, share more details of his personal life, reveal more background information about the world of CWCville, and shout his bizarre homophobic rantings from the virtual rooftops in peace. The administrators of the site remained a silent, benevolent force behind the scenes.

Towards the end of 2009, this would change.

==CWCipedia advertisements==
[[Image:Untitled.png|thumb|100px|left|Ensuring that Chris sees them EVERY TIME he visits.]]
[[Image:NewCWCipediaFrontpage.jpg|thumb|Chris's revised frontpage]]
As 2009 came to a close, CWCipedia's operators ran into financial trouble keeping the site in the black, given the many hits it gets on a daily basis and the profusion of large files held on its servers. To help keep the site up and running for its TRUE and LOYAL [[fans]], the Sysop that maintains the website for Chris turned to selling advertising space on the site. Keep in mind that these ads were all randomly generated by metadata created by Chris and the people browsing his site, not special hand-crafted ads made by [[trolls]]. Due to the somewhat complicated laws of the jurisdiction in which the servers reside, ads may only be purchased from within the European Union.

Chris makes '''NO''' money from the advertisement revenue. All of it goes to keeping CWCipedia up and running.

Chris responded to these ads with a few complaints to the admin and [[Jack Thaddeus]], who has so far been the only donor who has delivered over €1000, qualifying him to create custom advertisements on the site. [[CWC Blog#7 December 2009|In a blog post]], Chris hoped that ''someone'' within the EU would be able to step up and donate so much money that they'd not only qualify for custom ads, but help to ''remove'' the homoerotic ads that appeared on the site (even though most online advertisers give ''no'' such heavy-handed preferential treatment to premium advertisers, and indeed, no such stated policy exists in CWCipedia either). Even though it may be tempting for some European fans, the appeal of this opportunity seems limited. You can buy a [[PS3]] for you ''and'' your friend with €1000. Or buy three [[Hex Bawx|Hex-Boxes]]. Or four Wiis. Who ''would'' pass up such an opportunity?

On 27 December 2009, the ad space, which was previously at the very bottom of CWCipedia's navbar on the left side of the page, was moved to the very top of the navbar. Another ad appeared on Chris's main page beside the logo. On 28 December, Chris flipped out and replaced it with an ad for the his beloved [[My Coke Rewards]] program. The Sysop, however, [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/User_talk:ChrisChanSonichu#Do_NOT_tamper_with_the_advertisements scolded Chris], telling him that ''he'' had no control over the ads.

On 30 December 2009 Chris, unable to change the now-protected main page, lashed out the only way he could, by adding a block of text to the bottom of his (already hideously ugly) front page image, declaring that no ads were allowed on that page. In the message he said that he would not remove this block of text until the offending ads were removed from the main page. To put this in perspective, Chris ''defaced his own website'' in an attempt to get someone else to stop advertising on it. You can guess how well that worked.

On 2 January 2010, Chris began cluttering the website with his ads again, shilling for [[CWC Cola|Coca-Cola]], [[Wild Sonichu|Avatar]] and [[It's UGH!|Proposition 8]]. He took his self-bestowed title of [[Address to my Cwcipedia SysOp|Captain]] to an absolute extreme, posting the following message to CWCipedia:
{{quote| I have another pair of pages for today, and I will answer another [[Mailbag]] or two after uploading. But I also have another announcement; Jack thinks he can get away with occupying my Introduction Box with ANY Ad, well I have a few items I fully support as well. I will be placing my own Ads around the Cwcipedia, as I assert My Rights to do so [[Chris and his Ego|as Captain of this website vessel]].
'''I DO NOT WANT MY ADS REMOVED OR REPLACED BY ANYONE OTHER THAN MYSELF.'''}}

Additionally, Chris posted the following message to his [[Twitter]]:
{{quote|C.C. Sonichu says:...Removal of Any of ALL of MY Ads is consider Mutiny, and [[Chris and Anger|Mutiny will not be tolerated.]] Stay Safe, and have a good day.}}

As to whether or not [[Jack Thaddeus|Jack]] will receive forty lashes less one for his inevitable insubordination, Chris has no comment.

Due to gay porn ads on the CWCipedia, on 01 [[February 2010]] Chris [[Address to Mao, the S.O.B.|unleashed]] a [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha|curse]] upon Mao "Bamboo" Ling, after which he "[[Apologies to Alec and Evan|apologized]]" to Alec and [[Evan]].

Eventually, on 26 [[February 2010]], Jack Thaddeus returned with an unclickable ad reading "JACK'S BACK" (in text, later converted to a jpeg) and featuring a picture of a man releasing his [[navy]]. Chris, surprisingly, never reacted, even though he has a [[Homos|giant homophobic ass]].

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Image:Fkinglie.png
Image:GayAutismCure.jpg|Get yours today!
Image:GayAutisticSingles.jpg|The man of your dreams could be living next door!
Image:GayAutisticSon.jpg|I bet Chris [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes|Could.]] [[GameStop Be A Star Sweepstakes|Twice]].
Image:GayDrawing1.png|[[Sonichu (comic)|Case in point.]]
Image:GayDrawing2.png|You know what sounds like [[Autism|artistic]]?
Image:GayForGod.png|[[Rocky Shoemaker|Rocky]] Approves.
Image:GayOtakuSexClub.jpg|Can I bring my [[Anime Wings]]?
Image:GayPokemonDVDs.png|That's digusting! Get a [[Muscle bra]] and cover up!
Image:GLISTENINGHALF-NAKEDBLACKMEN.jpg|This one is my favorite.
Image:Heavenlyreward.png|After you die, you get your [[Semen#Comeuppance|Comeuppance]].
Image:HEXBAWKSad.png|A [[Hex Bawx|"Life upgrade"]].
Image:HGwait4u1.png|He's already a [[CWC Personal Sonichu Presentation|fan]]
Image:HGwait4u2.png|AUTISM HOOOOOOU~
Image:Hitlerpedia.png|[http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights.html Bill of Rights]
Image:HOTTHROBBINGGAYCOCKjpg.jpg|Cumming to butts near you.
Image:JoinTheNavy.gif|[http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-425.html/ DON'T ASK DON'T TELL]
Image:JustGuys.png|There's nothing wrong with [[High_school#Social_life|only hanging out with one gender]]
Image:Knight.png
Image:PlayNow.png
Image:Kool-Aid.png|It's recommended by 9 out of 10 High Functioning Autistics
Image:LearnAboutIslam.png|Chris has lots of [[mailbag|fans in the middle east]]
Image:Lipitor.png|Better [[Chris and health|stop taking it]] before it makes you [[homos|gay]]
Image:Mystery pic.png|Can you identify our mystery penis?
Image:Naivewater.png|[[Naïve|It's not what you think it is]]
Image:OK2BGay.png|[http://okaytobegay.blogspot.com/ There's a big difference between bending down and kneeling over]
Image:OxieCleanAd.gif|GETS OUT AUTISM, FAST! HERE'S HOW TO ORDER!
Image:PickelParty.png|Sounds promising
Image:PicklePops.png|Pop a Pickle in your mouth today!
Image:PKMN4HP.gif|That HP kid is a total [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spastic spaz]
Image:Sexvote.png|[http://answers.polldaddy.com/poll/2571589/ PollDaddy Answers Poll]
Image:Specialsomeone.png|They don't meet the [[Attraction Sign|requirements]]
Image:This2this.png|Go from [[Obesity|THIS]] to [[Clyde Cash|THIS]]!
Image:VirginiaLaw.png|[[Jerkop|I am the LAW]]
Image:CWCipediaChrisLesGayAd.png|[http://www.eflgc.org.uk/ What do you mean, 'gay and Christian'? It's not possible... or is it?]
Image:Asperchuissue5ad.jpg|It seriously is.

</gallery>}}

==The Twitter feed==
{{main|Twitter}}

On 25 December 2009, the WikiSysop added a live Twitter feed to the [[Mailbag|mailbag]]. This was short-lived, as on the early morning of the 27th Chris removed it in a fit of rage and added the following note:

{{quote|o I will have NO DISCUSSIONS GOING ON BEHIND MY BACK ON MY OWN WEBSITE WHATSOEVER!

I DO NOT SUPPORT YOU GOD DAMN GAYS!!! I F***ING HATE ALL OF YOU WHO ARE THE MAJORITY OF TROLLS WHO MESS WITH ME AND MY LIFE!

GO GET YOUR OWN LIFE AND LEAVE ME ALONE!!!

NO TWITTER ALLOWED!!!|

--ChrisChanSonichu 04:31, 27 December 2009 (CET) }}

Exactly five minutes later Chris would create a special page for the [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Twitter Twitter] feed, and delete the homophobic outburst quoted above. Chris would create a Twitter account for himself [[Chris and hypocrisy|the very next day]], regaling his fans with stories of him doing yardwork. The wise and magnanimous Wiki Administrator later put to the feed to the front page of CWCipedia, due to the fact that ''(ahem)'' it probably needed some wider exposure.

== A history of (un)availability ==
===CWCipedia closed due to a<strike>I</strike>DS===
[[Image:CWCipedia-Home-Copyright.jpg|thumb|The CWCipedia as it appeared on 1/1/10]]

During the last weeks of 2009, Chris became more infuriated as the gay ads continued piling up. In desperation, Chris began placing ads of his own that didn't inspire uncomfortable questions about his sexuality. The Sysop became furious at Chris's unauthorized interference and warned him that if he didn't remove the ads, serious consequences could happen.

On 2 January 2010, the CWCipedia was served a cease and desist notice by the Coca-Cola Company for its unauthorized use of their logo on the site. Thus, the Sysop was forced to close the website for a few days until the matter could be resolved. Having learned a little first-hand regarding what [[Chris and copyright|copyright law]] is all about, Chris issued an [[This_was_my_fault|apology]] on YouTube. In the video he claimed that he thought Coke would appreciate the free advertisement, but he is completely unaware that no self-respecting company would ever want their product to be associated with his website of fail.

Within a few days the site was returned to normal.

===CWCipedia closed (again) due to theft===
[[Image:Cwcipedia closed again.jpg|thumb|right|The CWCipedia's source page as of 2/6/10]]
In the early morning of 6 February 2010, the CWCipedia was closed down again, this time thanks to a DMCA request from representatives of [[Evan|Evan George]]. According to the request, Chris's use of the character [[Simonla Rosechu]] on his website and in his comics infringes upon Evan's intellectual property, as Simonla is clearly a derivative of Evan's character [[Fan:Simonchu|Simonchu]]. This was most likely triggered by Chris's announcement, [[5_February_2010|in a video from 5 February]], that he agreed to do away with Simonla and stop featuring her in his comics, but only at an unspecified "later" time.

Three days after the CWCipedia was locked to edits, it was wiped from the internet entirely. In its place appeared a redirect link to Asperpedia; however, due to a bug, it redirected to an online role-playing game, ''Dogs of the Seas''.

===CWCipedia lives on===
On 12 February 2010, the CWCipedia was revived to a certain extent. Although it was still locked to edits and only a "login required" screen was accessible, it was functional enough for Alec Benson Leary to display the first two pages of "[[Asperchu#Sonichu_Revolution|Sonichu Revolution]]." The next day, Chris fulfilled [[Evan]]'s request and the CWCipedia was restored for all people to see. "Sonichu Revolution" continued onward from there, prominently featured at the top of every page of the CWCipedia.

On 24 February 2010, a new set of ads appeared on the CWCipedia, calling Chris out on his [[Christian Love Day (video)|unwarranted self-importance]] on his birthday, with a message from [[Fan: Moon-Pals|Sean]] imploring fans to give gifts to victims in Haiti instead. The next day, CWCipedia vanished for a couple of minutes for unknown reasons. Likely due to Wild and Simonla's [[Sandy Rosechu|bastard child]]. When it returned, for a few days visitors were treated to the sight of a series of animated ads featuring gigantic ejaculating cocks, revenge from Jack Thaddeus in response to Chris's execution of the Asperpedia Four at the end of [[Sonichu 10]].

===CWCipedia closed due to parody===
{{quote|Also, you might want to take a look at your site before you go around advertising it... Some pretty vulgar vandalism you have going on there on a majority of pages.|Some guy on LittleBigWorkshop. Chris never read this and discovered the vandalism the next day.}}

Going into March 2010, Chris appeared to lose all interest in updating the site or presenting any meaningful new content. He neglected updating the Mailbag and stopped uploading new comic pages. His only additions to the site in the first three weeks of March were a series of rants directed at trolls and his fans, where he accused them of breaking up his pursuit of [[the Wallflower]] and complained that the demand for new Sonichu comics was ruining his life.

On 18 March 2010, CWCipedia was taken down and replaced with a redirect to a [[parody]] version of the website run by [[Mao]]. The Sysop had decided to allow Mao to buy a permanent redirect for 100 dollars. Since Chris was the captain, he decided to sail the U.S.S. CWCipedia into an iceberg and let it sink, making Jack pull all his funding and forcing the Sysop to shut the site down for good.

===[[CWCipedia vandalism|CWCipedia opened for everybody]]===
{{Quote|STOP THIS!!! THIS IS MY DOMAIN, and I WILL NOT HAVE YOU FAGGOTS SCREW IT UP!!!|Chris, somewhat upset.}}
[[Image:Niggachris.jpg|thumb|One of the hundreds of images uploaded by trolls during their epic vandalism.]]

A day later, however, the original CWCipedia returned. At the same time, Mao was given sysop, bureaucrat, and oversight powers on the site, suggesting the arrival of a new "captain" on deck. The result was much good vandalism, most notably on the main page itself, by "Kine", "SEANBOTMK2", "ALECBOTMK2", "EVANBOTMK2", and "Metal Asperchu." Soon, account creation was enabled for all and the website was utterly vandalized in a flurry of [[duck|genitalia]].

===CWCipedia closed to outside edits again===
Early on 22 March WikiSysop returned to the site after being [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=User_talk:ChrisChanSonichu&curid=46&diff=5987&oldid=5928 busy on other projects] and quickly reversed everything back to the pre-Mao state of the site. However much of the pictoral vandalism continues to remain in the history of many of the pages, and several pages were not changed back, either due to WikiSysop skipping them over or not caring.

===Broken dead===

During the early hours of 31 March, the front page of the CWCipedia [[Patti Chandler|decomposed]] into HTML code. This was attributed to the nature of the 110mb server. The [[Honest content|true and honest]] version created by [[Mao]] is still up and running.

===Resurrection===

Whether it was through coincidence or an act of Godbearjesus, the CWCipedia came back on Easter Sunday. It is more likely that some technicians actually worked through the easter weekend just so an autistic manchild can carry on putting up badly drawn comics when he feels like it for his [[Trolls|fans]].

===Traitorous Mutiny===

On 24 [[April 2010]], the sysop uploaded the rest of [[Sonichu 11]] and updated the [[Captain's Log]]. However, many quickly learned that these new pages may not have been as true and honest as they first appeared, as it involved [[Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]] filing for divorce, [[Reginald]] whipping [[pickle|it]] out in front of [[Robbie]], Sandy gets hit by a car, Wild commits suicide by blowing his head off, and all three of the [[Sonichu and Rosechu's Children|Sonichu kids]] getting killed by drinking detergent (actually, Cerah survives, but was put out of her misery by being smothered with a pillow). Two days later, Chris discovers the vandalization and replaces all of the images with a disclaimer that work on Sonichu 11 was ongoing. He then called out on the sysop's "traitorous mutiny", but was willing to forgive her. He then ranted about how he'll find peace off the internet, [[Youtube Finale|suggesting he may]] [[03212010 C-Ya Later.MOV|quit the internet]]... [[Lie|again]]. (SPOILER ALERT: He didn't.)

===A new face===

{{quote|DO NOT "[[South Park|SOUTH PARK]]" MY WORK.|Chris, on Daria's changes. What he means by this is currently unknown.}}

On 13 [[May 2010]], a new user called DariaCamacho appeared on the CWCipedia. She then proceeded to edit the main page and its templates as well as making new character bios. Chris, still highly paranoid after [[Jackie e-mails|Jackie]], reverted her edits on 14 May. The next day, displaying HTML skills similar to Chris, she broke the main page, which was again reverted, and added a message to her talk page asking Chris why he didn't appreciate her edits. [[Ego|We all know why.]] Chris then added his own response on 16 May, telling her not to "[[South Park]]" his work.

===CWCipedia gets gang-banged (again)===

On 26 May 2010, CWCipedia has been hacked, again. And once again, it's open to everyone. Several pages, once blanked and/or deleted were restored, and Sonichu #11 had the not true and not honest comic pages back up.

==See also==
* [[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence]]

==External links==
*[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Main_Page CWCipedia]
*[http://archive.cogsdev.org/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Main_Page CWCipedia (pre-vandalism)]
*[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Special:Recentchanges?hidebots=0 Recent Changes] - monitor Chris's (and the bots') latest updates
*[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&feed=rss Recent Changes RSS Feed] - receive Chris's latest updates automatically
*[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Issue_13] - Some vandalism that still remains.

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Talk:Claw of Fail

2010-05-13T07:39:27Z

UJ1A1985: /* Ripping Off The Von Erichs? */

To do: A gallery of him doing this stupid, stupid gesture. -- [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 02:56, 1 November 2009 (CET)

Also, categorize this shit. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:39, 1 November 2009 (CET)

Seems to me like this claw is common in his more recent videos, as I see it, it is a symbol of power he uses when making threats.
Anywho I rounded up some poorly cropped screen shots of him making the claw for y'all. --[[User:El Presidente|El Presidente]] 05:40, 1 November 2009 (CET)

He got this from Guitar Hero. It's a power metal thing that Yngwie Malmsteen started called the "Orb of Power". You know, like he's holding an orb. Chris is just bastardizing it. He probably also got it from Brütal Legend. Can we fix the article to better reflect this? [[User:Hamsterjelly|Hamsterjelly]] 02:12, 3 November 2009 (CET)

== Page Name ==

I think "Claw of Fail" or "Dramatic Hand Claw of Fail" would sound better and fit in the the other "X of fail" Relics. --[[User:Sonicow|Sonicow]] 22:57, 9 November 2009 (CET)

* Probably. --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 00:08, 10 November 2009 (CET)
:*Doing it. --[[User:Sonicow|Sonicow]] 17:13, 15 November 2009 (CET)
:*Please, in the future, read [[Talk:Relics_of_Fail|The Taxonomy of Fail]] before putting things into the Relics of Fail category. tl;dr version is that until Chris is dead and trolls can hack off pieces of his body, a body part is NOT a relic (exception to this would be hair, fingernail clippings, etc.). For that matter, this really should be given a different title than "Claw of Fail" as "[[The Creepy Stare]]" was originally "The Creepy Stare of Fail." I'm at lost for a better name, maybe "The Claw" (which is kinda cool sounding) but maybe someone can think of something better or (gasp!) original. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 15 November 2009 (CET)
::*CWC-grip? --[[User:Curseshot|Curseshot]] 21:08, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

== Ripping Off The Von Erichs? ==

*I've noticed something about the Claw of Fail, IMO, I think it's a ripoff of The Von Erich Claw, a move made famous by the Von Erichs (if anyone watches pro wrestling, they're legends here in Texas, where I live, who all but one, are all dead.) Could Chris took the claw straight out of World Class Championship Wrestling vids on YouTube, or does he even like wrestling at all?--[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 07:38, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Claw of Fail

2010-05-13T07:38:42Z

UJ1A1985: /* Ripping Off The Von Erichs? */ new section

To do: A gallery of him doing this stupid, stupid gesture. -- [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 02:56, 1 November 2009 (CET)

Also, categorize this shit. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:39, 1 November 2009 (CET)

Seems to me like this claw is common in his more recent videos, as I see it, it is a symbol of power he uses when making threats.
Anywho I rounded up some poorly cropped screen shots of him making the claw for y'all. --[[User:El Presidente|El Presidente]] 05:40, 1 November 2009 (CET)

He got this from Guitar Hero. It's a power metal thing that Yngwie Malmsteen started called the "Orb of Power". You know, like he's holding an orb. Chris is just bastardizing it. He probably also got it from Brütal Legend. Can we fix the article to better reflect this? [[User:Hamsterjelly|Hamsterjelly]] 02:12, 3 November 2009 (CET)

== Page Name ==

I think "Claw of Fail" or "Dramatic Hand Claw of Fail" would sound better and fit in the the other "X of fail" Relics. --[[User:Sonicow|Sonicow]] 22:57, 9 November 2009 (CET)

* Probably. --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 00:08, 10 November 2009 (CET)
:*Doing it. --[[User:Sonicow|Sonicow]] 17:13, 15 November 2009 (CET)
:*Please, in the future, read [[Talk:Relics_of_Fail|The Taxonomy of Fail]] before putting things into the Relics of Fail category. tl;dr version is that until Chris is dead and trolls can hack off pieces of his body, a body part is NOT a relic (exception to this would be hair, fingernail clippings, etc.). For that matter, this really should be given a different title than "Claw of Fail" as "[[The Creepy Stare]]" was originally "The Creepy Stare of Fail." I'm at lost for a better name, maybe "The Claw" (which is kinda cool sounding) but maybe someone can think of something better or (gasp!) original. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 15 November 2009 (CET)
::*CWC-grip? --[[User:Curseshot|Curseshot]] 21:08, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

== Ripping Off The Von Erichs? ==

*I've noticed something about the Claw of Fail, IMO, I think it's a ripoff of The Von Erich Claw, a move made famous by the Von Erichs (if anyone watches pro wrestling, they're legends here in Texas, where I live, who all but one, are all died.) Could Chris took the claw straight out of World Class Championship Wrestling vids on YouTube, or does he even like wrestling at all?--[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 07:38, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Talk:CWCville

2010-05-10T02:26:33Z

UJ1A1985: /* Norsefire? */

==To do==
*images of CWCville from comic
*Chris's description of CWCville with "an average amount of cool places to hang out at."
*BlueSpike, fuckups aside, you got him to say my cousin BILLY is mayor of CWCville. Objections to the rest aside, that's fucking hilarious. [[User:William Maize|William Maize]] 07:29, 4 March 2009 (CET)

== Who will lead? ==

Since Liquid Chris was kipnapped by Solid, I was wondering who will be the next TRUE and HONEST mayor of CWCville? Are we just going to let that manchild back in office after how he disposed of BILLY MAYS and his own counterpart? --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]]

LEX LUTHOR FOR MAYOR OF CWCVILLE! He was the president of the US at one time (See ''Superman/Batman: Public Enemies]]'' ), maybe he can use Metahumans to wipe out all Sonichus and Rosechus! --[[User:UJ1985|UJ1985]]
*Liquid's back, so nevermind. Still, who'd be a good canidate if he were to resign his postition? --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]]

== Nazi Germany's anti-tobacco movement ==

I think it would be nice to compare Chris to Hitler in his anti-tobacco policies.
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tobacco_movement_in_Nazi_Germany]
--[[User:CrassCrab|The Great Wizard CrassCrab, Lord of the Seven Realm and Master of the Archane Black Arts of the Eleventh Trans-Dimensional Vortex]] 17:12, 18 November 2009 (CET)
*Agreed. But I believe Chris' other similarities to Hitler should also be noted (e.i. the outlawing of homosexuality, Chris' iron-fisted rule over CWCville, Etc.) --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]] 1:03, 19 November 2009 (CEST)
:* Didn't they both rage when their art wasn't given the recognition they thought it deserved? And Hitler did Disney fanart (thx /cwc/ omg lol! =^_^=). Except Hitler was actually good at doing landscapes IIRC. --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 07:51, 19 November 2009 (CET)
::*"After dropping out of high school in 1905 at age sixteen, Adolf Hitler spent the next few years in brooding idleness. His indulgent mother patiently urged him to learn a trade or get a job. But to young Hitler, the idea of daily work with its necessary submission to authority was revolting.

With his father now dead, there was no one who could tell young Hitler what to do, so he did exactly as he pleased. He spent his time wandering around the city of Linz, Austria, visiting museums, attending the opera, and sitting by the Danube River dreaming of becoming a great artist.

Hitler liked to sleep late then go out in the afternoon, often dressed like a young gentleman of leisure and even carried a fancy little ivory cane. When he returned home, he would stay up well past midnight reading and drawing.

He would later describe these teenage years free from responsibility as the happiest time of his life.

His only friend was with another young dreamer named August Kubizek, who wanted to be a great musician. They met at the opera in Linz. Kubizek found Hitler fascinating and a friendship quickly developed. Kubizek turned out to be a patient listener. He was a good audience for Hitler, who often rambled for hours about his hopes and dreams. Sometimes Hitler even gave speeches complete with wild hand gestures to his audience of one.

Kubizek later described Hitler's personality as "violent and high strung." Hitler would only tolerate approval from his friend and could not stand to be corrected, a personality trait he had shown in high school and as a younger boy as well.

Young Hitler did not have a girlfriend. But he did have an obsessive interest in a young blond named Stephanie. He would stare at her as she walked by and sometimes followed her. He wrote her many love poems. But he never delivered the poems or worked up the nerve to introduce himself, preferring to keep her in his fantasies. He told his friend Kubizek he was able to communicate with her by intuition and that she was even aware of his thoughts and had great admiration for him. He was also deeply jealous of any attention she showed to other young men.

In reality, she had no idea Hitler had any interest in her. Years later, when told of the interest of her now-famous secret admirer, she expressed complete surprise, although she remembered getting one weird unsigned letter.

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/art.htm

o_o --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 08:02, 19 November 2009 (CET)

:Holy fucking shit. Well, hopefully Chris will forever remain the apathetic slug that he is and never venture into politics. [[User:Glorious Tentacularity|Glorious Tentacularity]] 08:07, 19 November 2009 (CET)
:: Maybe a rejection letter from [[Wikipedia:Art_Instruction_Schools|Art Instruction Schools]] would inspire him. --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 08:16, 19 November 2009 (CET)
::*Funny you mention that, I've been wanting to see Chris draw Tippy the Turtle and Pete the Pirate for that place, and see if he'd still get in. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:04, 8 December 2009 (CET)
== Official website ==

http://www.onetruecwcville.net/index.php --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 00:04, 21 November 2009 (CET)

==Wes Iseli==
There's a comment about how the police do nothing since Wes Iseli is able to ruin weddings. Yet didn't that wedding take place in "our" world since Sarah was there? I realize this is hard to argue given that "consistency" is a foreign concept to Chris but I'm guessing that the wedding takes place in our world and it just so happens that Sonichus and that Chris, Sarah, and Wes can turn into Sonichus and shit because they have those medallions and whatnot. Thoughts? If it's the case that it's taking place in our world, then we need to revise that sentence. Perhaps about how Mary Lee Walsh is able to do shit?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:04, 8 December 2009 (CET)

==climate==
Considering that it has jungles, volcanoes, temperate forests, the temperature differences of the Appalachian foothills between seasons, and is situated right next to the ocean, the bizarre, hellish climate of CWCville needs mentioned, I think.
*Agreed. --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]]
** I made the Zapbud's description seem more like a invasive weed, could someone make a better pic of what a Zapbud might look like IRL? I'm sorry but as a plant lover I can't believe Chrissy has managed to fuck up plants.[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 18:48, 24 December 2009 (CET)
*** [[Sonichu Remake]] has a re-imagining of zapbuds. Would cropping the corner of [[Media:SCRM -0-06.jpg|this image]] work? I might add it myself later, if I can figure out how to without destroying the rest of the article. --[[User:Fenny|Fenny]], who sucks at wiki.
**** Awesome!--[[User:Pikimon|0_o wat o_0]] 02:47, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

==CWCville Law==

Do we know enough to create a new section on CWCville's legal system/legislation? I'll probably be looking into that soon. - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 21:50, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

== Oceania? ==

Ok, I'm in the process of reading the book and I gotta say that CWCville is disturbingly similar to Air Strip One (London) from George Orwell's ''1984'', even though it's obvious someone along the lines of Chris would have probably never even heard of the book. However, here's a few notable similarities:

*All records and marks of past ruler are not only undone but actively denied, such as MAYS' reign or whatever happened in RFCville.
*Purposefully contradictory statements are issued by the central authority.
*Ludicrously high military presence.
*Oppressive police state where inane things like tobacco or alcohol are regarded as capital crimes, whereas soliciting sex is mostly ignored.
*Demonization of a single person other than a whole set of ideals, and the worshipping of the leader.
*CWCville looks like shit.
*Individual favored citizens shown as a role model.
*Almost no contact with the outside world even within its own country.
*No industrialization, nor a wish for industrialization, unlike other totalitarisms like NK or the USSR.
*''And'' everybody thinks the town is allright. Everyone is presumably too stupid to question their situation.

As an additional bit, Airstrip One is geographically in the same supernation as CWCville, that also happens to span over the United States. It was founded in 1982, which is only 2 years off the mark. [[User:Heinkel|Heinkel]] 00:18, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
* To be honest, a lot of that is just either made up (like the MAYS' reign) or exaggerated (military presence), but yes, CWCville IS a craphole. Chris likes to bring it up like it's the greatest place on Earth, but when the cards are all laid out, you can see that things indeed do suck. I dunno if it's in the same vein as Oceania, though.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 00:34, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

:Nope. "Oppressive police state where inane things like tobacco or alcohol are regarded as capital crimes, whereas soliciting sex is mostly ignored." - Actually, any sex without state permission is a crime in 1984. Also, the Anti-Sexual League. "No industrialization, nor a wish for industrialization, unlike other totalitarisms like NK or the USSR." - Oceania is industrialized alright, where do you think they're producing all the ballistic missiles they're launching at "the enemy" ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Gx-nxhcXs btw animu]). "''And'' everybody thinks the town is allright. Everyone is presumably too stupid to question their situation." - In 1984 they're not "stupid", the population is at once terrorized and brainwashed. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 10:26, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

== Norsefire? ==
CWCville's reign is eerily reminiscent of the Norsefire party's leader Adam Susan's personality and policies in the comic book V For Vendetta.

*Both leaders are virgins

*Both leaders have an [[Chris's Room|inner sanctum]], free of human contact and emotion

*Both leaders are manipulated through the computer and deluded into thinking they have found love, when they have just been trolled.

*Both have a fierce anti-gay stance

*both leaders despise anyone who isn't [[Surfshack Tito|white]], [[Michael Snyder|christian]], and [[homos|heterosexual]]

HOLY SHIT!!! CHRIS IS ADAM SUSAN!!!--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 20:38, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
*Eh moar liek a combination between Big Brother, Hitler and Adam Susan if you ask me... --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]] 18:09, 28 April 2010 (EST)
*I've seen parts of that movie on FX, but I believe my theory is that it's more reminiscent of an ''Justice League'' episoded titled, ''Legends'' (See below for my theory.)--[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 02:26, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

== Something's Popped Up ==

I noticed something odd about CWCville, my theory is that a city where Chris controls everything, is simular to an episode of "Justice League" (yes I admit, I like that show.). In the episode titled. "Legends", The Flash, Green Lantern, Hawkgirl, and Martian Manhunter were transported on accident after a battle to an alternate Earth where that Earth was destroyed after nuclear war. That Earth was remade by a boy who mutated and gained powers to recreate it under his image (he worshiped a team of heroes named the justice Guild of America, which is a nod to the Justice Society of America.) Can CWCville be a ripoff of that Justice League ep? --[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 07:24, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

*I wish Sonichu would end like that episode did. But no--CWCville is an object of his own creation. Chris was no doubt bullied a lot, and he envies authority. Note that he also went on anti-depressants during high school, suggesting that he was under a lot of stress. Around that time, CWCville came into being as the result of a minor power fantasy where Chris wished he was the mayor of a fictional city and free to do whatever he wanted.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 07:41, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Talk:CWCville

2010-05-08T07:24:34Z

UJ1A1985: /* Something's Popped Up */ new section

==To do==
*images of CWCville from comic
*Chris's description of CWCville with "an average amount of cool places to hang out at."
*BlueSpike, fuckups aside, you got him to say my cousin BILLY is mayor of CWCville. Objections to the rest aside, that's fucking hilarious. [[User:William Maize|William Maize]] 07:29, 4 March 2009 (CET)

== Who will lead? ==

Since Liquid Chris was kipnapped by Solid, I was wondering who will be the next TRUE and HONEST mayor of CWCville? Are we just going to let that manchild back in office after how he disposed of BILLY MAYS and his own counterpart? --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]]

LEX LUTHOR FOR MAYOR OF CWCVILLE! He was the president of the US at one time (See ''Superman/Batman: Public Enemies]]'' ), maybe he can use Metahumans to wipe out all Sonichus and Rosechus! --[[User:UJ1985|UJ1985]]
*Liquid's back, so nevermind. Still, who'd be a good canidate if he were to resign his postition? --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]]

== Nazi Germany's anti-tobacco movement ==

I think it would be nice to compare Chris to Hitler in his anti-tobacco policies.
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tobacco_movement_in_Nazi_Germany]
--[[User:CrassCrab|The Great Wizard CrassCrab, Lord of the Seven Realm and Master of the Archane Black Arts of the Eleventh Trans-Dimensional Vortex]] 17:12, 18 November 2009 (CET)
*Agreed. But I believe Chris' other similarities to Hitler should also be noted (e.i. the outlawing of homosexuality, Chris' iron-fisted rule over CWCville, Etc.) --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]] 1:03, 19 November 2009 (CEST)
:* Didn't they both rage when their art wasn't given the recognition they thought it deserved? And Hitler did Disney fanart (thx /cwc/ omg lol! =^_^=). Except Hitler was actually good at doing landscapes IIRC. --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 07:51, 19 November 2009 (CET)
::*"After dropping out of high school in 1905 at age sixteen, Adolf Hitler spent the next few years in brooding idleness. His indulgent mother patiently urged him to learn a trade or get a job. But to young Hitler, the idea of daily work with its necessary submission to authority was revolting.

With his father now dead, there was no one who could tell young Hitler what to do, so he did exactly as he pleased. He spent his time wandering around the city of Linz, Austria, visiting museums, attending the opera, and sitting by the Danube River dreaming of becoming a great artist.

Hitler liked to sleep late then go out in the afternoon, often dressed like a young gentleman of leisure and even carried a fancy little ivory cane. When he returned home, he would stay up well past midnight reading and drawing.

He would later describe these teenage years free from responsibility as the happiest time of his life.

His only friend was with another young dreamer named August Kubizek, who wanted to be a great musician. They met at the opera in Linz. Kubizek found Hitler fascinating and a friendship quickly developed. Kubizek turned out to be a patient listener. He was a good audience for Hitler, who often rambled for hours about his hopes and dreams. Sometimes Hitler even gave speeches complete with wild hand gestures to his audience of one.

Kubizek later described Hitler's personality as "violent and high strung." Hitler would only tolerate approval from his friend and could not stand to be corrected, a personality trait he had shown in high school and as a younger boy as well.

Young Hitler did not have a girlfriend. But he did have an obsessive interest in a young blond named Stephanie. He would stare at her as she walked by and sometimes followed her. He wrote her many love poems. But he never delivered the poems or worked up the nerve to introduce himself, preferring to keep her in his fantasies. He told his friend Kubizek he was able to communicate with her by intuition and that she was even aware of his thoughts and had great admiration for him. He was also deeply jealous of any attention she showed to other young men.

In reality, she had no idea Hitler had any interest in her. Years later, when told of the interest of her now-famous secret admirer, she expressed complete surprise, although she remembered getting one weird unsigned letter.

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/art.htm

o_o --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 08:02, 19 November 2009 (CET)

:Holy fucking shit. Well, hopefully Chris will forever remain the apathetic slug that he is and never venture into politics. [[User:Glorious Tentacularity|Glorious Tentacularity]] 08:07, 19 November 2009 (CET)
:: Maybe a rejection letter from [[Wikipedia:Art_Instruction_Schools|Art Instruction Schools]] would inspire him. --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 08:16, 19 November 2009 (CET)
::*Funny you mention that, I've been wanting to see Chris draw Tippy the Turtle and Pete the Pirate for that place, and see if he'd still get in. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:04, 8 December 2009 (CET)
== Official website ==

http://www.onetruecwcville.net/index.php --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 00:04, 21 November 2009 (CET)

==Wes Iseli==
There's a comment about how the police do nothing since Wes Iseli is able to ruin weddings. Yet didn't that wedding take place in "our" world since Sarah was there? I realize this is hard to argue given that "consistency" is a foreign concept to Chris but I'm guessing that the wedding takes place in our world and it just so happens that Sonichus and that Chris, Sarah, and Wes can turn into Sonichus and shit because they have those medallions and whatnot. Thoughts? If it's the case that it's taking place in our world, then we need to revise that sentence. Perhaps about how Mary Lee Walsh is able to do shit?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:04, 8 December 2009 (CET)

==climate==
Considering that it has jungles, volcanoes, temperate forests, the temperature differences of the Appalachian foothills between seasons, and is situated right next to the ocean, the bizarre, hellish climate of CWCville needs mentioned, I think.
*Agreed. --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]]
** I made the Zapbud's description seem more like a invasive weed, could someone make a better pic of what a Zapbud might look like IRL? I'm sorry but as a plant lover I can't believe Chrissy has managed to fuck up plants.[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 18:48, 24 December 2009 (CET)
*** [[Sonichu Remake]] has a re-imagining of zapbuds. Would cropping the corner of [[Media:SCRM -0-06.jpg|this image]] work? I might add it myself later, if I can figure out how to without destroying the rest of the article. --[[User:Fenny|Fenny]], who sucks at wiki.
**** Awesome!--[[User:Pikimon|0_o wat o_0]] 02:47, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

==CWCville Law==

Do we know enough to create a new section on CWCville's legal system/legislation? I'll probably be looking into that soon. - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 21:50, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

== Oceania? ==

Ok, I'm in the process of reading the book and I gotta say that CWCville is disturbingly similar to Air Strip One (London) from George Orwell's ''1984'', even though it's obvious someone along the lines of Chris would have probably never even heard of the book. However, here's a few notable similarities:

*All records and marks of past ruler are not only undone but actively denied, such as MAYS' reign or whatever happened in RFCville.
*Purposefully contradictory statements are issued by the central authority.
*Ludicrously high military presence.
*Oppressive police state where inane things like tobacco or alcohol are regarded as capital crimes, whereas soliciting sex is mostly ignored.
*Demonization of a single person other than a whole set of ideals, and the worshipping of the leader.
*CWCville looks like shit.
*Individual favored citizens shown as a role model.
*Almost no contact with the outside world even within its own country.
*No industrialization, nor a wish for industrialization, unlike other totalitarisms like NK or the USSR.
*''And'' everybody thinks the town is allright. Everyone is presumably too stupid to question their situation.

As an additional bit, Airstrip One is geographically in the same supernation as CWCville, that also happens to span over the United States. It was founded in 1982, which is only 2 years off the mark. [[User:Heinkel|Heinkel]] 00:18, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
* To be honest, a lot of that is just either made up (like the MAYS' reign) or exaggerated (military presence), but yes, CWCville IS a craphole. Chris likes to bring it up like it's the greatest place on Earth, but when the cards are all laid out, you can see that things indeed do suck. I dunno if it's in the same vein as Oceania, though.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 00:34, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

:Nope. "Oppressive police state where inane things like tobacco or alcohol are regarded as capital crimes, whereas soliciting sex is mostly ignored." - Actually, any sex without state permission is a crime in 1984. Also, the Anti-Sexual League. "No industrialization, nor a wish for industrialization, unlike other totalitarisms like NK or the USSR." - Oceania is industrialized alright, where do you think they're producing all the ballistic missiles they're launching at "the enemy" ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Gx-nxhcXs btw animu]). "''And'' everybody thinks the town is allright. Everyone is presumably too stupid to question their situation." - In 1984 they're not "stupid", the population is at once terrorized and brainwashed. --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 10:26, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

== Norsefire? ==
CWCville's reign is eerily reminiscent of the Norsefire party's leader Adam Susan's personality and policies in the comic book V For Vendetta.

*Both leaders are virgins

*Both leaders have an [[Chris's Room|inner sanctum]], free of human contact and emotion

*Both leaders are manipulated through the computer and deluded into thinking they have found love, when they have just been trolled.

*Both have a fierce anti-gay stance

*both leaders despise anyone who isn't [[Surfshack Tito|white]], [[Michael Snyder|christian]], and [[homos|heterosexual]]

HOLY SHIT!!! CHRIS IS ADAM SUSAN!!!--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 20:38, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
*Eh moar liek a combination between Big Brother, Hitler and Adam Susan if you ask me... --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]] 18:09, 28 April 2010 (EST)

== Something's Popped Up ==

*I noticed something odd about CWCville, my theory is that a city where Chris controls everything, is simular to an episode of "Justice League" (yes I admit, I like that show.). In the episode titled. "Legends", The Flash, Green Lantern, Hawkgirl, and Martian Manhunter were transported on accident after a battle to an alternate Earth where that Earth was destroyed after nuclear war. That Earth was remade by a boy who mutated and gained powers to recreate it under his image (he worshiped a team of heroes named the justice Guild of America, which is a nod to the Justice Society of America.) Can CWCville be a ripoff of that Justice League ep? --[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 07:24, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

User:UJ1A1985

2010-04-29T03:33:26Z

UJ1A1985:

Well, New Year, New Server, and A New ID Name, But Same Urv.

Formerly UJ1A, Creator of the [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|Damien Antaria page.]] Also an Aspie as well, and into cartooning, internet, Pixar, games, working out at the local Y, shopping for art stuffs, and watching movies, especially MST3K (Mystery Science Theater 3000), Superhero, animated, and Bruce Campbell flicks.

Also insane genius who is behind the UrvyVerse stuff.

Talk:List of Chris's PSN game downloads

2010-04-28T06:38:14Z

UJ1A1985: /* Watchmen?! Oh...my... */

== new logs ==

http://outerheaven.pastebin.com/we3muZP5
(Overall list)

http://outerheaven.pastebin.com/KEdpgSQy
(Purchase list)

sep - feb 23 [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 07:30, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

== talk ==

He spent two bucks on a Diesel shirt for PlayStation@Home. I'm gonna see if this bottle of vodka here can't make me forget about it. As always, comments and suggestions on the formatting would be great. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 22:06, 28 October 2009 (CET)

* That's how much he spends on a shirt IRL LOLOLOLOL [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 23:42, 28 October 2009 (CET)
*Two thousand dollars? Jeez. Makes me worry a bit about how much I've wasted on Rock Band music. Well except I only buy the music I like. Chris went insane with Guitar Hero.[[User:Crow|Crow]] 10:45, 6 November 2009 (CET)

== To do==
Categorize this page. Fuck, maybe we need a Sony category for all the Sony shit. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:08, 28 October 2009 (CET)
* Yeah, I tossed it (and the video downloads list) in the Video Games category, but a PS3 category for just PS3-related foolishness might be in order. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 22:13, 28 October 2009 (CET)
:*I'm thinking a Sony category for all his Sony fanboy-ism but we can have a Sony category and have a PS3 category be a subcategory of that. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:52, 28 October 2009 (CET)
*Also, let's wikify the biznitch out of this. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:24, 29 October 2009 (CET)
**Links to regular Wikipedia entries for the games, you mean? Wouldn't be too hard to do. Also, if someone either feels incredibly dedicated or just happens to know way more about music games than I do, the music game downloads are kind of jumbled -- I didn't have the energy to Google up every single song and track pack and figure out whether it belongs to Rock Band, Guitar Hero, or Rock Revolution. (Yes, Chris actually paid for Rock Revolution DLC.) [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 00:31, 29 October 2009 (CET)
* A random suggestion: Calculate total costs for each individual section, and totals for whole thing. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 12:00, 29 October 2009 (CET)

== Wait! Where's... ==

...Mainichi Issho, one of the game he has 100% of trophies of? I thought he purchased it through PSN. ''Surely he's not partaking in l33t warez?'' --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 19:56, 29 October 2009 (CET)
* Ya know what it probably is? The data this list is based on only reflects his purchases through the American PlayStation store. Which means he's probably bought ''even more shit'' that we don't know about. Fuck me. Think I'll add a note to this effect in the article. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 05:00, 30 October 2009 (CET)

== OneChanbara: Bikini Samurai Squad? ==

I don't think this should be under games- it must be a video or a theme or something, 'cause that's a Hexbox game, not a PS3 one.[[User:Dontmindme|Dontmindme]] 22:36, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
* Huh, you're right, that's a mistake on my part. Whatever it is, he paid $3.99 for it on the PSN...yep, it's the movie. Good catch there, I'll move that from this list to the other list. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 23:07, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

== ''Watchmen''?! Oh...my... ==

*It's official, Chris ruined ''Watchmen'' for me. I have that movie and game and the book, I'll bet he doesn't understand the true meaning of the story. Our theory is correct, everything cool or awesome Chris touches, ruins it for us. --[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 01:50, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:* If you let Chris ruin something for you then you let yourself be trolled by Chris. Believe me, we all have been there. He got the film but I bet he never enjoyed it like you did. Think about this.[[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 01:54, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::**Griffintown, you've hit the spot there. --[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 02:13, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

:* Remember that the pickle suited troll stole (rescued) Emily from Chris by asking her to the Watchmen movie. I like to think this ruins Watchmen for Chris too... [[User:Silomentality|Silomentality]] 02:09, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

:*Another shocker, he got a Ghostbusters costume set for LittleBigPlanet! This also proves that Chris has little knowledge of both Watchmen and Ghostbusters, the one we all know and love (well, some of us.) --[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 06:38, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

File talk:ChrisSportsBra.jpg

2010-04-22T20:16:04Z

UJ1A1985:

So far, this is the only picture that has brought me very close to vomiting. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 04:46, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

If I had to summarize my initial reaction to seeing this picture in one word... FFFFUUUUUUUUU!!! [[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 16:00, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

I think I'm gonna puke... Also, should this be in the Muscle Bra gallery? --[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 20:16, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Talk:List of Chris's PSN game downloads

2010-04-22T02:13:56Z

UJ1A1985: /* Watchmen?! Oh...my... */

Talk:List of Chris's PSN game downloads

2010-04-22T01:50:41Z

UJ1A1985: /* Watchmen?! Oh...my... */ new section

Talk:Netflix

2010-04-21T21:37:10Z

UJ1A1985: /* Oh damn... */

jesus christ my stomach anyway
11/13/2009 5:30:48
11/14/2009 6:30:28
11/15/2009 1:54:54
11/18/2009 2:55:36
11/19/2009 3:39:32
11/21/2009 6:25:18
Total 26:56:36
Average 2:59:37
[[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 09:20, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

This page = a list of all his netflix? Clarify and I'll put something down. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 18:57, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

plz sign ur posts also

Netflix has two things, some instant streaming bullshit and the regular "we send one dvd, we take one". Chris had two queues for each thing and he also had a history of what he watched. As you can see. the time he spends watching bullshit can potentially be...a lot. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 18:49, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Everything Chris does is bullshit. I can't believe I forgot to sign my posts dammit. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 18:57, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

==To Do==
Brief explaining of Netflix, And a Screenshot of Chris's collection.

*I wrote a bit about how Netflix works. Netflix also offers the streaming service through the PS3, which is probably what Chris uses to watch his shows. --[[User:Sack Thaddic|Sack Thaddic]] 19:53, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

*Need to wikify the movie lists (i.e. present links directly to Wikipedia articles, so people can read about the movies if they so wish). I'll start a bit tonight. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:05, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

== Oh damn... ==
I actually liked Keeping Up Appearances. Fucking Chris... --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:32, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
*Me too, man. Me too. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 19:56, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
**Also, he got Elfen Lied, probably in the hopes of looking at naked anime chicks. Of course, considering Chris's childish mind, he wouldn't understand a damn thing that went on in the series. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 14:54, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
**This is evidence that Chris ruins good things for us. What's next, Chris liking Evil Dead movies? I doubt Chris likes Evil Dead, Darkman, or some of the earlier Sam Rami films. I'll bet anyone that Chris is too chickenshit to watch The Evil Dead or any Freddy or Jason movie, then again, anything he touches, he ruins it for everyone else. --[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 21:37, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

== Instant Queue ==

Y'know, looking over what Chris got on his Instant Queue gets you thinking on what he likes. Some are not surprising - I mean, look at his South Park collection. His anime collection isn't surprising either - most of them involve hot chicks. I think it's hilarious that Chris chose ''Read or Die'', though - the main character, Yomiko Readman, holds a number of similar traits to Chris - room filled with junk (except in her case, it's an entire apartment building and it's with books, not shit), the girl's seemingly unkempt (she spends a good deal of the first episode with bedhead and its unlikely the girl's shown taking a shower) and she spends her money on books. I think we can forgive her because a) she actually has a job (part-time sub teacher) and b) she's a kickass agent.

''Transmorphers'' and ''Robotech'' certainly fit in with his "Ooh, transforming robots" bit, though I'm shocked he chose such a low-grade B-movie LIKE Transmorphers! Beyond that, the rest are classics (the old Bugs Bunny movies and Red Skelton) and mass debating films (which makes up, like, half of the list).

Then, there's ''I Still Know What You Did Last Summer''... --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 07:55, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
* And there's a ton of stuff in there that Chris was probably hoping was softcore porn. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 08:15, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Do you think it's notable that Chris is afraid of harcore porn? Softcore cuts out all of the 'bad' bits. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 10:54, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
*I think that's spot-on. I've long thought the reason many men like lesbians is a fear of pickles, and Chrissypoo should be no exception. Recall his first exposure, with the pool table? I bet he only considers hardcore as good for "educational" purposes. [[User:Ronfredricks|Ronfredricks]] 13:00, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

== ''Twilight''? Seriously? ==

*What...The...Fuck? Chris likes ''Twilight''? --[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 21:33, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Netflix

2010-04-21T21:33:51Z

UJ1A1985: /* Twilight? Seriously? */ new section

jesus christ my stomach anyway
11/13/2009 5:30:48
11/14/2009 6:30:28
11/15/2009 1:54:54
11/18/2009 2:55:36
11/19/2009 3:39:32
11/21/2009 6:25:18
Total 26:56:36
Average 2:59:37
[[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 09:20, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

This page = a list of all his netflix? Clarify and I'll put something down. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 18:57, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

plz sign ur posts also

Netflix has two things, some instant streaming bullshit and the regular "we send one dvd, we take one". Chris had two queues for each thing and he also had a history of what he watched. As you can see. the time he spends watching bullshit can potentially be...a lot. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 18:49, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Everything Chris does is bullshit. I can't believe I forgot to sign my posts dammit. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 18:57, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

==To Do==
Brief explaining of Netflix, And a Screenshot of Chris's collection.

*I wrote a bit about how Netflix works. Netflix also offers the streaming service through the PS3, which is probably what Chris uses to watch his shows. --[[User:Sack Thaddic|Sack Thaddic]] 19:53, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

*Need to wikify the movie lists (i.e. present links directly to Wikipedia articles, so people can read about the movies if they so wish). I'll start a bit tonight. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:05, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

== Oh damn... ==
I actually liked Keeping Up Appearances. Fucking Chris... --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:32, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
*Me too, man. Me too. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 19:56, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
**Also, he got Elfen Lied, probably in the hopes of looking at naked anime chicks. Of course, considering Chris's childish mind, he wouldn't understand a damn thing that went on in the series. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 14:54, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

== Instant Queue ==

Y'know, looking over what Chris got on his Instant Queue gets you thinking on what he likes. Some are not surprising - I mean, look at his South Park collection. His anime collection isn't surprising either - most of them involve hot chicks. I think it's hilarious that Chris chose ''Read or Die'', though - the main character, Yomiko Readman, holds a number of similar traits to Chris - room filled with junk (except in her case, it's an entire apartment building and it's with books, not shit), the girl's seemingly unkempt (she spends a good deal of the first episode with bedhead and its unlikely the girl's shown taking a shower) and she spends her money on books. I think we can forgive her because a) she actually has a job (part-time sub teacher) and b) she's a kickass agent.

''Transmorphers'' and ''Robotech'' certainly fit in with his "Ooh, transforming robots" bit, though I'm shocked he chose such a low-grade B-movie LIKE Transmorphers! Beyond that, the rest are classics (the old Bugs Bunny movies and Red Skelton) and mass debating films (which makes up, like, half of the list).

Then, there's ''I Still Know What You Did Last Summer''... --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 07:55, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
* And there's a ton of stuff in there that Chris was probably hoping was softcore porn. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 08:15, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Do you think it's notable that Chris is afraid of harcore porn? Softcore cuts out all of the 'bad' bits. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 10:54, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
*I think that's spot-on. I've long thought the reason many men like lesbians is a fear of pickles, and Chrissypoo should be no exception. Recall his first exposure, with the pool table? I bet he only considers hardcore as good for "educational" purposes. [[User:Ronfredricks|Ronfredricks]] 13:00, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

== ''Twilight''? Seriously? ==

*What...The...Fuck? Chris likes ''Twilight''? --[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 21:33, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

User:UJ1A1985

2010-04-21T21:15:06Z

UJ1A1985:

Well, New Year, New Server, and A New ID Name, But Same Urv.

Formerly UJ1A, Creator of the [[Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)|Damien Antaria page.]]

Talk:Obesity

2010-04-21T03:54:12Z

UJ1A1985: /* Merge */

==To do==
Add Chris's comments about weight ("about 200 pounds"), his exercise (Guitar Hero, standing up), Chris being defensive about his weight (in IRC, he got really defense and in an e-mail with Evan [I think] he's like "I AM NOT FAT!!!!!!!!!!!") and so forth. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:20, 31 May 2009 (CEST)
*I added a lot of stuff, but I suck with editing wiki format so a lot of things don't have links. I fsomeone wants to help out, go for it.--[[User:Howsyourham|Howsyourham]] 17:01, 19 July 2009 (CEST)
*Now that the Chris and Health article is up, I propose that we merge this and that article together, seing as this falls under health.
:*I'm tempted to do that, though I'm leaning towards calling this "Chris and his weight" since that's a pretty indepth topic himself that comes up a lot (that is, "Chris is fat lol"). Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:35, 3 September 2009 (CEST)
::*It's definitely an important topic, seeing as how it has not only been brought up so many times, but how adamantly Chris has reacted to it. It's beyond just not bathing regularly, this is a real part of his mindset and I think it warrants it's own page. Why don't we just move the two sections from [[Chris and Health|Health]] and add them to this page, then include a link? We already are talking about exercise, I don't think nutrition would be that much of a leap. --[[User:LizardPie|LizardPie]] 16:48, 3 September 2009 (CEST)
:::*When I made this article I made it because there seems to be a lot of fat people in Chris' life, including himself. But then again this is quite common in the US. So I support it being moved to "Chris and Obesity" or "Chris and His Weight", but not merged with the Health article.--[[User:Goatselover|Goatselover]] 23:20, 23 September 2009 (CEST)

==Rename==
I'm thinking about renaming this "Chris's weight." Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:17, 28 October 2009 (CET)
*If we're going for a more objective title, that would be better. Obesity should still re-direct to it, though; if for no other reason than that this particular page is linked to extensively and trying to find them all would be a bitch. --[[User:LizardPie|LizardPie]] 01:24, 28 October 2009 (CET)
**How about renaming it "Buddha Belly" considering that's his CWC-ism for his obesity. --[[User:Goatselover|Goatselover]] 00:36, 15 November 2009 (CET)
***Honestly, I think pretty much all of this could be added to [[Chris and Health]]. Maybe we could label that section Buddha belly, or at least mention that on the page or something?--[[User:That Man|That Man]] 19:37, 1 December 2009 (CET)

== Merge ==

There's a lot of good stuff here, but it overlaps with [[Chris and Health]]. Could it be condensed into a subsection of his weight and diet?--[[User:Megaman|''Megaman!'' ]] [[Image:MegaManXRunning.gif]] 08:19, 5 December 2009 (CET)
*I agree with this. The "Chris and..." series is a much better place for this and some other overlapping articles. I vote we merge.--[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 23:47, 7 December 2009 (CET)
*I also agree with the merge. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:03, 13 December 2009 (CET)
*Same. [[User:Shiny Marshtomp|Shiny]] 20:04, 13 December 2009 (CET)
*I agree! It'd make a lot more sense IMHO. --[[User:Morganna|Morganna]] 17:24, 3 January 2010 (CET)
*Yeah I agree, but we have to becareful not to Fuck up the Health article. But there IS a large ammount of good info on here.--[[User:Pikimon|Pikimon]] 18:14, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
*I don't know. His obesity has been playing a lot into his life lately, from Kacey's father calling him fat to which he's embarrassed to admit it and uses a euphemism to try and not outright refer to himself as fat, to denying it and claiming he used to be fat (i.e. Sammy and addressing Asperchu).--[[User:Goatselover|Goatselover]] 23:54, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
*To me it seems that a lot of the actual health related aspects could be added to Chris and Health in a merge, but I also agree with the above comment in the rename section regarding the CWCism 'Buddha belly' I say we do a bit of both of those. We'll have a section for his obesity in Chris and Health and another seperate page for the CWCism Buddha belly. Kind of like how there are articles for 'Chris and Race' alongside the page for the CWCism 'Niggos' --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 02:01, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
*I say let this stand, but maybe trim some of the fat (heh heh) from Chris and health — anything on that page should just be a summary of the concepts that are covered in more detail here. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 23:21, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
* I say we merge this bitch--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 07:42, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
* I vote for placing an overview of his obesity, particularly the health ramifications, on the Health page, with a link to Obesity. So I second (or rather third) Apostrophe and Edward--[[User:NoVu|NoVu]] 12:33, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
* I agree wholly to merge this sucker, that way, everything about Obesity can be covered in Chris and Health, and his excuses not to exercise as well. --[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 03:54, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

==Way to determine his weight==

Why not ask him his waist size? I mean he's probably too stupid to realize that its meant to get his actual weight. [[User:Shawths|Shawths]]
*Because he might not know, or might measure inaccurately? [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 16:57, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
** He'll most likely lie and say that he's a size 4 or something. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 16:58, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
*** You really think we can't lead him on?[[User:Shawths|Shawths]]
***We could tell him that a number in a certain range (one likely to be close to his size) is the sign of a strong, healthy man. - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 11:16, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
**** Brilliant. We could tell him that the sign of a healthy man is a waistline between 40 and 50. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 17:21, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

The Wallflower

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[[File:Aliteralallflower.jpg|thumb|The Wallflower doing what she does best.]]

"'''The Wallflower'''" aka '''Damian Antaria''' is the heir to [[Megan Schroeder]], a female friend [[Chris]] met some time around early [[2010]]. She is one of the few girls Chris has managed to associate with in his post-high-school years who is not (as far as can be seen) a direct result of [[trolling]]. In [[March 2010]], she joined the long list of would-be [[sweetheart]]s with whom Chris has failed to lose his hated virginity.

Whether or not the Megan-esque ending of their relationship is actually to blame on the trolls or is a direct result of Chris being himself is unknown. There is evidence that the Wallflower has been made aware of the [[CWCki]], but given Chris's past record of making an absolute tit of himself in every way imaginable, it is not unrealistic to consider that Chris himself scared the Wallflower away with his pungent aroma of [[Chris and health#Hygiene|sweat]], [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|shit]], and [[AXE]]. Nevertheless, Chris has taken it upon himself to blame those god damn trolls for destroying yet another chance at getting some [[china]].

==References by Chris==
Exactly when Chris first met her is not clear. While he jumped at the chance to advertise his involvement with some of his other women friends to the world, he initially made only oblique, passing references to this one. (Also, less information was forthcoming about this particular sweetheart than some because unlike, say, [[PandaHalo]], she wasn't actively leaking every detail of her communications with Chris to fellow trolls.)
[[File:ClydeandLovelyweather.jpg|thumb|The Wallflower on her [[third date]] with [[Clyde Cash]].]]
The first signs of Chris's involvement with the Wallflower showed up in late January 2010. In [[Mailbag 46]], answered on 26 January, Chris claimed to have joined a "Young Adult Social Group" and "met a lovely woman there who likes me too; we are hitting it off like two hip wallflowers." Around the same time, in [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 3]] (which took place on 30 January), Chris said he was expecting a phone call that may have been from her.

In the 14 February 2010 edition of the [[CWC Blog]], Chris declared that "currently, my girl friend and I are getting along great; the relationship is progressing. I only ask for y'all to leave me with my relationship, and not make me feel intruded by inquiring constantly." When a correspondent in [[Mailbag 56]] challenged Chris to prove the existence of his new "girl friend," Chris replied "She does exist, and I do not appreciate your tone at all."

In [[Sonichu 10]], Chris mentioned that he had met up and had sex with his future wife, [[Lovely Weather]] in a page that was uploaded 9 December 2009. As it was considered unusual for Chris to write about an entirely fictional sweetheart, it's possible that Lovely Weather was based on this person.

It's not clear how far the relationship actually "progressed," however. Chris, we can be certain, had designs on a physical relationship with her from the start. He has no truck with the notion of "[[Friend zone|just friends]]." The Wallflower may have felt otherwise, which could explain Chris's angry remarks on the subject of the "friend zone" in the [[Common Questions#15_January_2010|15 January 2010]] edition of the Mailbag. His [["Damian_Antaria",_PLEASE,_Don't_Leave_Me_-_I_NEED_YOU!!!|abject plea to her]] from 14 March supports this supposition — in that video, Chris says that while they were acquainted, she told him she wasn't interested in a boyfriend. However, he implied that she was now thinking of dating some other guy, making it quite likely that she used "not interested in a boyfriend" as a polite way of turning Chris down. It's far more polite than "Fuck no, you disgusting freak."

Even with all evidence to the contrary, in his [[03212010 C-Ya Later.MOV|C-Ya Later video]], he unabashedly [[Chris and Reality|refers to her as his]] [[Boyfriend-free girl|"girlfriend"]], despite outright stating earlier that she had refused all his advances.

==Breakup?==
{{quote|Got-Dang Asexual Woman!|Chris in his [[CWCipedia]] page on The Wallflower}}
[[File:The link.jpg|thumb|How to troll both Chris and his trolls in one simple step.]]
When it was found out that Chris had a possibly non-troll gal-pal, most of the trolls agreed that the best course of action was to let the events play out on their own and have her find out herself what a [[Chris and Race|racist]], [[Sex|sexist]], [[Homos|homophobic]], [[Monthly Tugboat|lazy]], [[Health|unhygienic]], [[Ego|narcissistic]], [[Hypocrisy|hypocritical]], [[naive]], and overall [[The Creepy Stare|creepy]] manchild Chris was. Despite this, one troll decided to fuck it all up and link her to the CWCki.

On 10 March 2010, Chris released [[A message to the Trolls]]. Emotionally distraught, he speaks in vague terms about troll interference in his life, and of the pains of a broken heart. At the same time, in a [[Cwc_blog|Captain's Log]] entry on the CWCipedia, Chris mentioned "BREAK-UPS FROM BEING EVEN SIMPLY FRIENDS WITH ME", which presumably refers to her cutting off all contact with him.

In the wee hours of 11 March 2010, Chris released [[Don't Mess With Me|a second video]], mentioning a theoretical meeting between him and an imaginary [[Clyde Cash]]. He beats the shit out of himself and the air, pulls out a tiny little [[pocket knife]] and cuts the throat of his invisible enemy, making it seem as if he blames the loss of the Wallflower or some other troubles on his old nemesis Clyde.

On 14 March 2010, Chris uploaded a new video and appeared to shift the blame to another troll, [[Surfshack Tito]]. In between delivering [[Tito Got No Luck Against We Brits, Irish and Scots!|bizarre threats of violence]], Chris makes a resolution to "regain the love and trust and friendship" of his gal-pal. It is not clear why Chris believes he can accomplish this goal by donning a kilt, waving around a small knife, putting on a grotesque attempt at a Scottish accent, and generally presenting a hideous affront to the culture and people of an entire nation.

Later that same day, Chris made [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|another video]] (in a different shirt, suggesting he woke up in the early afternoon) where he again referred to The Wallflower by her pen name, and literally begged her to sleep with him because his life was so hard, and otherwise he would have to pay $100 for sex with a hooker. The fact that at no point did he say anything along the lines of "Ignore the trolls" suggests that, ultimately, Wallflower finding out about the CWCki was not why she broke contact with him. Especially so when you consider that the video was about him singing about how he hates her boyfriend despite knowing nothing about him.

In the [[Surfshack Tito Emails]], Chris is mocked by Tito claiming to have had sex with the Wallflower. While Chris was initially incredulous, in a [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|later video]] he expressed outrage at Tito for "taking her from [him]", implying that he believes that the Wallflower is involved with Tito in some capacity.

==Anonymity==
Originally, this article intruded into parts of the Wallflower's life that had nothing to do with Chris, prompting her to request that the article be reworked to refer to her under a pseudonym and avoid direct references to her personal life and identity. The CWCki's administrators reasonably agreed.

Chris is convinced that this change took place because of the angry threats he made in his video of 10 March 2010, when in fact it had nothing to do with him. The changes to this page led him to believe that he could insist on sweeping edits to many other pages, which he listed in the 14 March 2010 Captain's Log update on the CWCipedia. Those demands were ignored.

Despite his (for once successful) attempts at having her docs removed from the internet, Chris continually drops her first name and pen-name in his videos, including [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|one]] which [[Fail|has it in the title]].

Chris has also uploaded [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|a list of his former gal-pals and sweethearts]] on the Cwcipedia which includes both her middle and last names. Chris goes on to blame the existence of her Facebook page for the leak of her identity and the end of their budding relationship. He says he "learned from [his] mistakes there", but people with working mental faculties are, however, puzzled by the fact that even after that alleged introspection, he's continuing to release all of this information. On 20 April 2010, in an attempt to keep her anonymous, Chris added to the CWCipedia a FULL PAGE about her. The said page is filled with megalomania, fantasies and death threats with Chris as a hero.

==See Also==
[[The Wallflower (CWCipedia Page)]]

==External links==
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do6CczCBplA Tribute]
{{CWCipedia|chris=Damien_Anteria|linkname=The Wallflower}}
{{DEFAULTSORT:Wallflower}}
{{People}}
{{Sweethearts}}

Talk:Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)

2010-04-20T03:36:39Z

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*Page created, need help on correcting the spelling on the title. --[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 03:05, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

** Shit, I missed it... Does anyone save the original page before he blanked it? --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 23:19, 19 April 2010 (EST)
::* He's using her pen name instead of her real name.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 03:20, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

== Typo ==

Should be "CWC'''i'''pedia Page" instead of "CWCpedia Page"
:*I know, my error.--[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 03:36, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)

2010-04-20T03:23:33Z

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Believe it or not folks, [[Christian Weston Chandler|Chris]] created a page all about [[The Wallflower]] on [[CWCipedia]] , just after creating [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|a page on all his gal-pals and sweethearts in the same week.]] Like that page, he kept the real name of The Wallflower intact! However, he blanked it, and created a page with her pen name instead (likely because, The Wallflower might been pissed if he would use her real name.)

=The Page=

==The Truth==

===Intro===

Firstly, in reference to the Trolls' "Introduction" on their page, "Heir to Megan Schroeder"? W.T.F. are they trying to imply here? I had LOOOOOONG moved on from Megan. I have met MORE WOMEN that those trolls will never learn about; it is none of their D*** Business anyway. And my virginity is NONE of their concern. And it was their doing that made "Damien" aware of their original page of c*** and immature put-downs and insults.

===What had happened===

I met "Damien" late January, 2010 in the first of a few Social Group meetings in Charlottesville, VA; we enjoyed each other's company that night, and we started pleasant communications between us. We successfully communicates over telephone and e-mail, and we went out on a few dates.

Being careful on NOT revealing her identity, and out of glee, I made a note on the C-Log about the relationship and not stating her name. I do not need to prove myself to anyone on the internet. I respectfully requested that NO ONE INTERFERE in the relationship, but NOOOOO, the Trolls HAD to stick their n***** noses into my affair.

"Damien" did not reject me at all before the page against her was created. She welcomed me Massaging her Shoulders, Neck and Back. She did not object Holding Hands. She appreciated the Kiss I gave her. And she enjoyed sharing our DNA during the movie we went to see.

For your information, "Lovely Weather" in my 10th book is NOT BASED ON ANYONE; SHE IS PURELY FICTIONAL.

"Damien" and I, we were even starting work on a book of a series; I gave her the scenario idea. I wanted her FanFiction Fans to get a foretaste of the book series, so I started creation of a [[LittleBiGPlanet]] Level, and stated that it was a "Chris Chan/Damian Anteria" Production. AGAIN, being careful NOT to use her Real Name.

Then the trolls upped and googled her pen name; I had thought it cool. But there was a Monkey in the works, and that was "Damien"'s Doing; SHE HAD TO HAVE A Facebook Page with her REAL NAME and LINKS to her FanFictions on it.

===The Breakup===

The D*** Trolls then made their page against her, then made her aware of it in a "Review" entry. She became very angry at me, like I had control of what the Trolls, themselves, do, of which I DO NOT. Time passed, and she was still angry at me; she broke up our relationship and friendship.

I was left having to Suffer Linger Heartaches for Over TWO WEEKS.

Later on, this "Tito" communicates with me, confessing that it was HE that created the page and that HE informed "Damien" about it. And HE makes up a Fake Photograph of him and her together and sends it to me. That mother f***** son of a b**** can go rot in hell right now for all I care.

And to make it all worse, the trolls called her and her family up, PRETENDING to be me with their Voice-Manipulating Devices and their Camouflage Devices changing their Phone Numbers/"Restricted"/"Unknown" Status to my phone number to appear on their Caller IDs. You Trolls WILL see JAILTIME or DEATH soon enough.

===Retribution===

At a future Social Group Meeting, I was able to let "Damien" know about my pains, and I would have appreciated an apology. But NO, she just ignores me like the plague. Now she'll have to live the rest of her life with the recurring memory of hurting me like she did. Got-Dang Asexual Woman!

==Their Version==

===Intro===

"'''The Wallflower'''" aka '''Damian Antaria''' is the heir to [[Megan Schroeder]], a female friend [[Chris]] met some time around early [[2010]]. She is one of the few girls Chris has managed to associate with in his post-high-school years who is not (as far as can be seen) a direct result of [[trolling]]. In [[March 2010]], she joined the long list of would-be [[sweetheart]]s with whom Chris has failed to lose his hated virginity.

Whether or not the Megan-esque ending of their relationship is actually to blame on the trolls or is a direct result of Chris being himself is unknown. There is evidence that the Wallflower has been made aware of the [[CWCki]].

==="References by Chris"===
Exactly when Chris first met her is not clear. While he jumped at the chance to advertise his involvement with some of his other women friends to the world, he initially made only oblique, passing references to this one. (Also, less information was forthcoming about this particular sweetheart than some because unlike, say, [[PandaHalo]], she wasn't actively leaking every detail of her communications with Chris to fellow trolls.)

The first signs of Chris's involvement with the Wallflower showed up in late January 2010. In [[Mailbag 46]], answered on 26 January, Chris claimed to have joined a "Young Adult Social Group" and "met a lovely woman there who likes me too; we are hitting it off like two hip wallflowers." Around the same time, in [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 3]] (which took place on 30 January), Chris said he was expecting a phone call that may have been from her.

In the 14 February 2010 edition of the [[CWC Blog]], Chris declared that "currently, my girl friend and I are getting along great; the relationship is progressing. I only ask for y'all to leave me with my relationship, and not make me feel intruded by inquiring constantly." When a correspondent in [[Mailbag 56]] challenged Chris to prove the existence of his new "girl friend," Chris replied "She does exist, and I do not appreciate your tone at all."

In [[Sonichu 10]], Chris mentioned that he had met up and had sex with his future wife, [[Lovely Weather]] in a page that was uploaded 9 December 2009. As it was considered unusual for Chris to write about an entirely fictional sweetheart, it's possible that Lovely Weather was based on this person.

It's not clear how far the relationship actually "progressed," however. Chris, we can be certain, had designs on a physical relationship with her from the start. He has no truck with the notion of "[[Friend zone|just friends]]." The Wallflower may have felt otherwise, which could explain Chris's angry remarks on the subject of the "friend zone" in the [[Common Questions#15_January_2010|15 January 2010]] edition of the Mailbag. His [["Damian_Antaria",_PLEASE,_Don't_Leave_Me_-_I_NEED_YOU!!!|plea to her]] from 14 March supports this supposition — in that video, Chris says that while they were acquainted, she told him she wasn't interested in a boyfriend.

Even with all evidence to the contrary, in his [[03212010 C-Ya Later.MOV|C-Ya Later video]], he [[Chris and Reality|refers to her as his]] [[Boyfriend-free girl|"girlfriend"]], despite outright stating earlier that she had refused all his advances.

==="Breakup?"===

When it was found out that Chris had a possibly non-troll gal-pal, most of the trolls agreed that the best course of action was to let the events play out on their own and have her find out herself about Christian. Despite this, one troll decided to f*** it all up and link her to the CWCki.

On 10 March 2010, Chris released [[A message to the Trolls]]. Emotionally distraught, he speaks in vague terms about troll interference in his life, and of the pains of a broken heart. At the same time, in a [[Cwc_blog|Captain's Log]] entry on the CWCipedia, Chris mentioned "BREAK-UPS FROM BEING EVEN SIMPLY FRIENDS WITH ME", which presumably refers to her cutting off all contact with him.

In the wee hours of 11 March 2010, Chris released [[Don't Mess With Me|a second video]], mentioning a theoretical meeting between him and an imaginary [[Clyde Cash]]. He beats the shit out of himself and the air, pulls out a tiny little [[pocket knife]] and cuts the throat of his invisible enemy, making it seem as if he blames the loss of the Wallflower or some other troubles on his old nemesis Clyde.

On 14 March 2010, Chris uploaded a new video and appeared to shift the blame to another troll, [[Surfshack Tito]]. Chris makes a resolution to "regain the love and trust and friendship" of his gal-pal.

Later that same day, Chris made [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|another video]] (in a different shirt, suggesting he woke up in the early afternoon) where he again referred to The Wallflower by her pen name. The fact that at no point did he say anything along the lines of "Ignore the trolls" suggests that, ultimately, Wallflower finding out about the CWCki was not why she broke contact with him. Especially so when you consider that the video was about him singing about how he hates her boyfriend despite knowing nothing about him.

In the [[Surfshack Tito Emails]], Chris is mocked by Tito claiming to have had sex with the Wallflower. While Chris was initially incredulous, in a [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|later video]] he expressed outrage at Tito for "taking her from [him]", implying that he believes that the Wallflower is involved with Tito in some capacity.

[[Category:CWCipedia]]

Talk:The Wallflower

2010-04-20T03:18:17Z

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==Ye olde shit==

Okay faggots, listen up. No personal details. Ever. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
* Would photos of her count as personal details? There's a photo on this page clearly showing her. --[[User:Marco|Marco]] 01:54, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
** If you're referring to the photo that's currently up there it's a shop - in particular, the facial features are so different that nobody could possibly connect her to the picture unless they'd seen the source photo. --[[User:Team CWCket|Team CWCket]] 11:16, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
*Gotcha. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 01:18, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**Am I missing something here? Didn't Chris just inform us that this girl is no longer interested in him, with Message to the Trolls? So why are we locking down details about her now, when EDF can do no more damage? Or is there more to this?--[[User:Sonichuistehcool|Sonichuistehcool]] 01:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I'm sure that she got some sort of email/phone call, but we don't know enough about her or the situation to assume that she's fully out of the picture. Until then, it's better to have less info than too much info. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 01:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Some explanation please? I mean, all the other galpal articles have info, what happened here? [[User:Dave|Dave]]
*i have received a message from wallflower herself asking for her info to be removed. while i'd rather not remove any information, at the same time, the article was focusing on personal details about the wallflower that weren't at all related to chris. since i'd rather avoid any trouble here, i've complied with her request. this new article should be used purely for chris-related information, since she is part of christory. if chris uploads information, then you can add it here, but don't add anything you found through internet investigation or whatever. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 01:28, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
** A'ight, but can we have a background on the story on cwcki? You know, what happened for them to break up and stuff. [[User:Loserbrain|Loserbrain]] 01:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*** There's no break up as far as I know. But I'm sure something must have happened between yesterday and today. We can document the drama but be vague. Example: Dedicated trolls found her information and then Chris got mad. Real mad. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****Does this mean all the sweetheart pages are going to be changed? -PeaceCeapPea
*****Most of the sweethearts were trolls. Megan avoid this site like rape, so I don't think we need to worry about it. [[User:Loserbrain|Loserbrain]] 02:32, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*Why are we doing this? Didn't Megan ask us for her dox to be taken off the internet? How do we know the message wasn't sent by a troll or a white knight?--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 02:12, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**Have you seen the latest video from Chris? He found the CWCki. I guess "WallFlower" used Google. Another thing; Chris volunteered the info we got on him. She dint. We dint passed the Dox of other sweethearts or made fun of them as we did with her. Just for this, It had to be removed. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 02:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*My apologies for deleting this page this page. I just woke up and I was confused about what the fuck was going on. I thought some faggot thought Chris was talking about two different girls. I absolutely agree with Cogs one hundred percent, if Wallflower requested this page to be taken down, I think that's a humble request given that the article was a threat to her wellbeing. It's not so much trying to cover our asses, I really can understand that the Wallflower (unlike Megan, who really didn't have much of an online presence) would have trolls be a very real threat and unlike Chris, she probably doesn't feed off negative attention.
:I regret that I did not address the dox in the pages. I really wasn't a big fan of having her Facebook, MySpace, etc. profile on there, aside from Chris related issues, mostly because we don't do the same thing for Megan and we shouldn't encourage faggots trolling Chris related people who have little to do with Chris.
:I think one lesson from this is we need to discuss some sort of privacy policy for CWCki. A less brash version of Clyde's dictum is that we should possibly treat pages about people only from the Chris universe perspective, that is how Chris views them and sees them as opposed to digging into personal details from online investigations. But yeah, people, let's not do shit like post MySpaces, Facebooks, and don't post people's personal information unless Chris posts it on the Internet for everyone to see. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:46, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:* Seems fair enough. There was, in retrospect, no hope of keeping a lid on this whole thing, I think, no matter how much or how little personal info got posted here - as soon as her given name got out there, it was inevitable that some goof was gonna link her to this or to the ED page or to the sex doll video or whatever else. But that seems like a good policy for simple decency's sake. I apologize for getting carried away with all the links on the page yesterday. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 12:59, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

*I think the wording of this article should be more explicit as to how and what kind of idiot it was that contacted her over all this. I mean most EDF retards won't read krapple or PVCC etc. but they do read the Cwcki, and it might help in the future to have here an example to hold up of what exactly happens when you go the JULAYYY route of trolling. [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 02:37, 11 March 2010 (UTC) 02:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

**Who cares about it, it seems something else is stirring within Chris. Guess he still has it out for me. Hmph. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 07:57, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

***I think we ought to be more careful with the information we post here. Most if not all CWCki contributors are either on /cwc/ or PVCC, but the readers are partially dumbasses (not just from EDF, I presume) who will fuck shit up. Yes, it's a shame this happens, but ultimately we are to blame here. It was very obvious the CWCki article on her would lead to someone contacting her. Documenting information is important, but perhaps there should be some articles protected from viewing? I don't know. --[[User:Wtv|Wtv]] 10:48, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*combine with the sonichu crystals to the [Wallflower] page?? [[user:I_Love_Little_Girls|I Love Little Girls]] 10:23, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::no they want that page gone, that's why it's over here without any references to her personally. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 11:03, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::oh, i see. whatevss [[user:I_Love_Little_Girls|I Love Little Girls]] 11:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*Yeah, I thought the same thing so don't feel bad. tl;dr is that Wallflower asked for it to be removed and Cogs complied, because it was a reasonable request. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

*Wow, now we turned into Moralfags and we are going to censor trolling, for the sake of the trolls who already know who she is. Also, it is not that difficult to do a fucking google search and found everything there is to found about this girl, so this is just stupid. If you had any respect in the first place for any of the friends or family of chris chan you would not have all the information you have on them all over the page, and that's not the case, so for what I can see here this is a very hypocritical position, or this is just part of a trolling plan.--[[User:SGSS01|SGSS01]] 10:04, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:One, we're not Moralfags.
Two, the dox was removed by her request.
Three, if we put the dox back up, she could net us some downtime for invading her privacy and personal life.
So fuck off. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 21:18, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::Taking down the page because we put information already publicly available on the internet?, lulz, let her send in detectives, send in police, send everything in her power!. I'm sorry but that's not a valid reason, we have personal information about a lot of persons, and many of those don't even use the internet, or is information we got from hacked mail accounts (Cole), and fuck, he really could take the site down just for that, and we still have his article.--[[User:SGSS01|SGSS01]] 03:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:::There's a legal liability out there. Chris says most of what he wants. If he sue the site for libel, he will lose since all the material here mostly came from his own (dirty) hands. Wallflower on the other side came from nowhere and the tone used to describe her was quite unflattering. Keeping Wallflower previous page on line would had brought to this site much trouble (including legal ones) so it was wise to shut it down. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:46, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:::* What about the things that were coerced from him? Do those fall under acceptable use or not?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:12, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
::::*Coercing implies some form of entrapment. At any time Chris had the possibility to walk out and stop posting on the net as Chris-Chan. He dint. Up to there, humping his PS3 is on fact voluntary from his part. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:11, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:We can put name what is she going to do? Chris reveal her name. We are NOT moralfags. If its on the internet its public information (as long as it is not credit card numbers, passwords, or SSN) we are just data mining. --[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 21:30, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::Any troll can go data-mining. We are not trolls, we are Christorians; Holy scribes monitoring the advent and life of the "Messiah Of Fail". It is in our upmost interest to play nice. How many of us would salivate over an e-mail of five lines from Megan ranting about Chris? Let's be nice to the Wallflower; she might bring us something great in the future. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
==Srsly though...==
To improve the article:
# Wallflower really isn't a sweetheart. Nothing public about this yet but as most of you can tell, she's more or less Megan - because she has managed to be around Chris for more than five seconds, Chris takes this to mean sexual interest and a serious relationship.
# We need a pic of a Wallflower. Like, literally, a flower growing out of a wall. Not a drawn pic, but an actual photograph. Shouldn't be too hard to fine, just don't feel like it now. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
[[File:ClydeandLovelyweather.jpg|thumb|center]]
Here you go a photo of what resembles Heather with Clyde Cash --[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 04:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:"We need a pic of a Wallflower. Like, literally, a flower growing out of a wall." Moralfag my ass. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 02:20, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

[[File:Aliteralallflower.jpg|thumb|center]]--[[User:Curseshot|Curseshot]] 21:39, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
:You're winner. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 02:20, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

==Pimp Claim Responsibility==

This bloke known on YouTube as "ThyEnvysGreed" claim he's the one who [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRr-N5_V_9s alerted wallflower]. What should we do with this faggot? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
* It's possible the guy's full of shit and just taking credit for something. Going by the comments 'they' have been making, this is quite likely; his 'group' seems to be out to make a name for themselves rather than just have a laugh at Chris's expense. Aside from that, just do what everyone seems to be doing already; spam his comments informing him of what a massive prick he is and that he should lay off the fucking donuts. [[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 16:51, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:*This. Seriously, guys, let's not give credit to faggots who want attention. Damage is done, we need to move on. Besides [[CWCki:CWCki_is#CWCki_is_about_Chris|CWCki is about Chris]], not so much faggots like this. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:12, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**I agree with the comment spamming, just piledrive him into the dirt. He fucked up an opportunity for some awesome shit. I would understand if he were trying to get a laugh out of messing with Chris, but he's just looking for e-fame. I say we don't give him that much attention unless it's totally negative.--[[User:JRampancy|JRampancy]] 16:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I'll need to find the picture I saw on /cwc/, but he also had an account on Fanfiction.net and I think that's how he alerted her, since I don't think they allow anonymous reviews anymore. And it was the same screen name.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 17:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****Well gentlemen, I believe it's time to do what we do best. IT'S TROLLING TIME, LADS.[[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 17:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*Faggot deleted it. Did anyone save it? '''[[User:Odettafag|blind justice.]]''' [[User talk:Odettafag|to each his own.]] 18:11, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
** [http://rs336.rapidshare.com/files/362046356/whatafuckingtard.flv It's right there] [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:02, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*** Thanks! '''[[User:Odettafag|blind justice.]]''' [[User talk:Odettafag|to each his own.]] 19:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
He's a troll, you guys. Attention will only make him stronger unless we find his house (which is unlikely). Until someone can dox him, the best course of action is to ignore him, depriving him of his e-fame. Bonus points if fifty different accounts simultaneously claim that they're the ones who pissed off Wallflower so nobody takes his claims seriously.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 18:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I can't believe he tucked tail and ran away so quickly. He did post on [[A message to the Trolls]] which is still there for the viewing. [[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 20:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)meeko
***There's also a message in [[Don't Mess With Me]], still in plain view and for all to see. He's like The Pinch - a coward who wants e-fame. Pure and simple.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 21:07, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*He destroyed your guy's plans to get drama out of a guy! Oh no. Just calm down. Seriously, it's not a big deal. [[User:Chaosakita|Chaosakita]] 05:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:* It is. Chris is the most interesting when conversing with "normal" people - especially women. --[[User:Derpalerp|Derpalerp]] 08:28, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

** I found anothe possible leaker on twitter he/she says and I quote "Sonichuproducts @CWCSonichu I dare your faggot ass to do a curse ya fuck yo momma or whatever it is on me, I told Heather you dirty Retarded bitch."

could it be a lead or just an attention seeking fag?--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 23:17, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
*Krapple did a bit of detective work and found that he has another account-"6thof66" or something like that. Calls himself "the Agonstic Saint" and says he rejected his real name- his friends call him Sage after some wise man, according to him. He's 24 and lives somewhere in Texas. He lives alone and cut off all ties with his family. His videos there are mostly of him bitching and moaning about religion in general and Christianity in particular. Most importantly, one of his videos shows his license plate number- BJ6-G449. Make the most of it.--[[User:This guy|This guy]] 14:17, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
**Never mind, the above isn't thyenvysgreed. It was a fake lead put by a butthurt ED lurker with a grudge. He still looks like he's worth trolling, though.--[[User:This guy|This guy]] 14:43, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
==Now that Chris has dropped her name...==
Is it ok to mention her first name on this page?--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 15:41, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
*You have a point, and I see the logic, but I think the whole point of removing her name was sending a message to the rest of the trolls (and the external observers) that we are actually decent people. To go back on that would be to lose a social lead which is more valuable than the person's name. Again, this is just what I think. Feel free to prove me wrong. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 15:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
*But there is no point in hiding her name, the problem with his page was the loads of information about her, not related to Chris, and since Chris mentioned her name; her name, her relation to Chris and anything Chris related shall be posted here, no more info about her. [[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 16:05, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:*You make a fair point, however given that Chris 1) assumes that it's a video only Tito will watch (forgetting that public YouTube videos are, you know, public) and 2) he's retarded like that, the thought that mentioning her name again probably didn't cross his mind. However, Wallflower asked us nicely to remove her page and adding her name back would sort of violate the spirit of that agreement. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:56, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::* I understand, but then, should we censor part of the kilt video when Chris says her name?, of course, keeping a copy of the original, and linking it on the page, and replacing her name with the pseudonym in the transcript. Better safe than sorry.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 17:31, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*In my opinion, censoring the material would only draw more attention to the Wallflower's identity. People would start looking at the stuff that has been deliberately removed and get more and more curious and try to find it. Especially if we have a copy of video with the name bleeped or transcript with the name removed, while Chris has the actual video up on his own account. My idea would be ''not'' to cover her identity specifically (which this article already does that), but if Chris keeps rambling about it, there's little we can really do. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 17:53, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::::* But this page, as well as the LittleBigPlanet one reference the wallflower's name and her likes, is not really hard to find her anyways.By the way, someone already censored it in the kilt video.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 18:24, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::* It would be nice if someone contact Wallflower and tells her that Chris keep on yelling her name on the internet while wearing a dress. I am concerned with all this. A well-determined Grieffer can still reach her because the manchild can't keep his pie-hole shut.[[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::**I've sent two messages to her on Facebook and she hasn't responded yet. Also, PVCC isn't telling us something--Scarlet/Kim/Emily knows Heather, according to Chris.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 18:38, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::***Interesting twist. In this case, our best option is to lie down and wait for the PVCC to make their moves. They always bring the best Lulz. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:32, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
No. The CWCki needs to be smart about this kind of thing. When a person is angry about Chris's antics and actively asks the CWCki to take their information down, that person should be respected. It's fine to document Chris's antics that he publicly puts online, but Wallflower did not ask to be a part of Chris's online life and has specifically tried to distance herself from all this. For that matter, I'm of the opinion that if Megan ever came to the CWCki and asked to have materials taken down or hidden, it should be done, too. Same goes for Bob, Barb or anyone else who has not deliberately made themselves a part of Chris's online life. If a person deliberately makes themselves a part of Chris's online life, then their "details" are a fair thing to put up. If they are trying as hard as they can to get away from Chris's online life, then their "details" should be respected. The CWCki needs to be wise when it comes to liabilities. It is one thing to put up Chris's funny antics that he's made known publicly. It is another thing to put up unnecessary personal details of a person who has never asked to associate with Chris in a public way. Besides, all said and done, there's no need to document her name or her personal information to track Chris's stupid antics. It doesn't make Chris's antics any more funny. This brings up a great debate for the CWCki though: how far is too far? For me, I would hope there are limits. This is not a "lulz" site. [[User:Elephant|Elephant]] 20:28, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

:::My two cents is adding first name is ok since he mentioned it and it is an unspecific referential index, which means it is vague. I don't see a problem with putting their names online since you can get records with their names on it from realtors, department of elections, white pages, or the city accessor's office for free. We should put in Damian Antaria and Heather into the article since Chris mentioned it. The CWCki '''Only''' records encounters with Chris not personal information such as SSN or credit card numbers. By your logic we would have to take down the site if Chris makes the request which is NOT going to happen. The CWCki site is only recording what Chris is doing. If anyone is to be held liable it is Chris for revealing the information. For example: ''When Scooter Libby leaked info on Valerie Plame the CIA agent to the New York Times, the New York Times did not get in trouble'' If trolls wanted to find the information they would with or without the CWCki. --[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 20:52, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I support her name not neing intentionally added here. I do, however, think it is stupid to try to hide her name intentionally. I think we should refer to her as the Wallflower, but if Chris says it in a video, merely changing it in the transcript is not only ineffective, it is annoying. If he presents the information, it takes 2 seconds to watch the video and hear the name. We let it stay in the transcripts merely for the sake of flow, but then we don't call her by that name anywhere else. I think that will give everyone pretty much what they want, as her name is not spread and her info is not known, but it isn't an eyesore to read and I don't have to be constantly reminded that I'm not supposed to know her name.
Tl;dr: Hiding the name on purpose is futile and, in a selfish light, detracts from my experience (which I rail against with full force). Don't take it out of what he says, but don't put it up elsewhere. That also means that the people who missed all this won't go insane trying to find info. Meh, my idea sucks, but I'll put it out there. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 21:44, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
* I agree that it's easy to put the information together; if you Google up the information that Chris has given, you can find her easily. I think we should do more or less as you've said- present exactly what Chris says and not link the two together. Anyone who is really confused can look it up. It's no less confusing to a newb, IMO, than the articles that refer to Chris as "Ian" and Liquid as "Chris". [[User:BubblegumPinkButler|BubblegumPinkButler]] 00:21, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Flibel
* In case no one has been keeping tabs, the alias currently in the page had been discarded, so now we should be completely safe. (Did one of you talk to her?) --[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 02:56, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
* For those of you keeping score at home, Chris himself has published her full name on the Cwcipedia under an exhaustive list of 'Past Sweethearts'. (yes yes ffffffff, goddammit chris, etc etc) Considering this nugget of fail was yielded unprovoked by the manchild, would it be against the 'no irl names' rule on this page to at least link to his cwcipedia page on here? [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 02:27, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
== Suggested Name Change ==

In his most recent [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|video]], Chris refers to the wallflower as "Damian Antaria". I suggest we change the article to reflect this. "The wallflower" is simply a name the trolls gave her. Our purpose here is to document Chris, and so, if this is what he calls her, this is what we call her. This isn't meant to throw her personal information out there, or even link this article to her writings. If Chris wants to give us this name, then that's her name. Just saying. What do you guys think? --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 23:17, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
:I disagree for two reasons; First, Wallflower asked that we remove all her personal info. This includes, in my opinion, her pen name. Then, many Christorians out-there have adopted the name "Wallflower" to name her. Why changing that good habit and risking confusion? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 00:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

:Because [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Template:Captain%27s_Log&oldid=4013| Chris thinks we took this page down because he told us to]. I think we need to make it clear that we removed the information because "Damian Antaria" asked us to, not due to Chris' bloated ego and aggressive, one-sided demands --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 02:31, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

:: Chris probably just takes quick looks at the pages, i doubt that changing the name will have any effect on him, besides, the page states ""The Wallflower" aka Damian Antaria...", so, there is no need for a name change, it would be like changing articles like " Punchy sonichu" to "Punchy "Fighting" sonichu", considering that's the species for Punchy, but trolls know him as Punchy Sonichu.Ttherefore, no name change is needed.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 03:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Alright then, I agree the name is fine as is. --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 16:05, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

: So as long as its not Chris asking, we can't put information up on any person if they say stop? So if Bob or Barbara is overheard in a video or phone chat saying they don't want to be on the internet, we need to take down all references to them? [[User:Double Nega|Double Nega]] 16:20, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
:* This is a separate case we will need to visit if it happen. The guideline regarding WallFlower was simple; she's a victim of Chris. The term "Megan 2.0" applies here. If she asked the material to be removed, I think it is ethical to do so. Bob and Barbara are enablers. This is a whole new ballgame to me. Of course, Chris being the fucktard that he is, will keep on dropping her Dox everywhere. We don't need to be "insensitive" as he is. Besides, WallFlower might be tempted to talk to us if we play nice... [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:44, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

== Her Side of the Story ==

Has anyone tried contacting her to get her side of the story? If she is an innocent victim of Chris, than we should allow her to post her version of events as to how they met, and whether Chris was actually her boyfriend (Which I highly doubt) or merely just an friend that he wanted to rape. I know she sent an email asking for her page to be taken down, so that must me that the admins have an email address for her. It would be very enlightening to learn what relationship she has with Tito, and if she became Chris's new Megan. If she's already stated that she doesn't want to comment, that's cool. she's been victimized enough [[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 11:37, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

*she's already contacted the cwcki herself. similar to megan, she doesn't want to tell her side but fair enough. just let her be. one day, the truth may come out but not now. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 15:39, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

True. I only bring this up because it seem's she has surfaced on youtube, talking about Chris. Whether the accounts is real or a fake is up for discussion [[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 11:37, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

== Remove the fanfiction.net image? ==

I was wondering- should the "How to troll trolls & Chris" image (the_link.jpg) of fanfiction.net be removed? Surfshack Tito has been shown to be the one who informed the Wallflower about Chris's true life & internet infamy. I didn't recollect seeing any info about the "ThyEnvysGreed" person on the article anymore (unless I missed it just now), so I kind of think it should be removed because it really doesn't have much to do with the Wallflower herself or Chris, not really anyway. I thought I'd ask here first, though. [[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 18:44, 24 March 2010 (UTC)meeko
:*I have uploaded the image for two reasons. First, we have the historical context. This is THE message that blew-up Chris's cover as a decent bloke and ended the 8 hours Wallflower Saga. Then, it also proves us our prominence as the source of everything CWC-related. Wallflower wasn't pointed to ED but to us. This says something by itself. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:21, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
:My only thing though, is how do we know that this is how Wallflower found out? Chris has said Tito did it (after saying Clyde did it, of course), but Tito hasn't revealed how he did it. My problem is that all we have to go on is the claims of 'ThyEnvysGreed'. Also, Chris hasn't specified how Wallflower found out, nor has the lady herself. We don't really have any proof of it, is all. [[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 13:15, 25 March 2010 (UTC)meeko
::*No, we don't have a point-by-point list about how Wallflower found out Chris's faggotery. This is something she might explain to us if she so chose. This being said, the screen shot proves us that someone hinted the lady towards the CWCki. For me, this is close enough. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 13:50, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

== Friend Zone ==

"He has no truck with the notion of "just friends." The Wallflower may have felt otherwise, which could explain Chris's angry remarks on the subject of the "friend zone" in the 15 January 2010 edition of the Mailbag."

I'm not sure about this section staying in. Chris has been angry at the Friend Zone as early as [[Mailbag 4]] which was way back in November.[[User:Wise dude321|Wise dude321]] 05:08, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

==Can we change the name?==
Since Chris has (once again) dropped The Wallflower's full name, can we change the name of the page? I know that we're only to upload information as it pertains to Chris but since he put it up on the Cwcipedia does that make it legit to put her name up here now? --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 02:29, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:She asked us not to.
:So no. We shouldn't. Ever.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:32, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:*Chris is retarded. We are not retarded. Lemme rephrase that; just because Chris does it, that doesn't make it okay for us to do it. We are better than him, rememeber? Plus, as the almighty Beat already said, she specifically asked us to take down the info and we are not ED. If she changes her mind, the info can go back up, but not before then no matter HOW many times Chris says: I DO NOT WANT ANYONE MENTIONING <her full name> ONLINE EVER! -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 03:18, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
::*Shit, I'm almighty now? When did this happen?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:00, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:::*Face it Beat, you are awesome. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 04:03, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:::*April 11th, 2:31am GMT. Just FYI. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 04:27, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

:*To reiterate, the reason the page was changed was because Wallflower's personal safety was threatened by this page - not that we were hurting her directly, just that people were posting doxs and stuff and were starting to harass her (in other words, this is why we can't have nice things). The fact she's a fanfic author, not that attractive by conventional Western standards of beauty, and her information is easily available online makes her a target for your average Internet troll.

::I'm not a big fan of censorship. I find it abhorrent. I am someone who believes information should be free and whatnot. However, Wallflower did make a request and it's always been the case where if someone felt that their privacy was threatened, we would accommodate to their request (i.e. "plz don't sue"). Unlike Wikipedia, what we're doing isn't exactly kosher to begin with (i.e. an entire wiki to document the misadventures of an autistic shell of a man for purposes of internet trolling as opposed to a free and open source of information)

::My solution would be as such - instances where Chris mentions her real name are mentioned, but not linked to her. We keep this article and perhaps mention these instances where the name is mentioned.

::CWCki should serve as a portal for uncensored and unadulterated access to Chris and his mind. Otherwise, a wiki cannot truly function. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:08, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

:::*Brilliant. Champ says it better than I ever could. Mind if I quote this post any time people keep bringing up this issue? -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 09:54, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

So quick question, what if Chris (in all his fucktardary) was stupid enough to tell info about her on the internet (like where she lives, her phone number, and other personal info and pictures) would that mean that we would have to record it? He did it with Megan and other people in his life, how do you know he's going to do it with the wallflower? --[[User:Yoshi2021|Yoshi2021]] 11:23, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:If Chris did shit like that, it's my personal hope that his sysop would delete the page and tell him to quit his shit. Yeah, I know we're doing the whole "No shit is too minor!" thing, but most of these girls are actual people. They don't deserve newfags sending them pizzas for the rest of their lives just because they weren't openly cruel to a retard back in high school.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 13:08, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:*I agree with the most honourable Beat on this one. I believe for now the official policy is that we document any time Chris drops her name, but not link it to the Wallflower article, as long as it's not something that a) implies she was going out with him or b) makes her super-easy to dox.
:Specifically:

::If he mentions her full name ''yet again'' in the transcript of a video, then we can transcribe it verbatim.
::If he creates a video with her ''pen-name'' name as the title, we can transcribe it verbatim.
::If he makes a list of his gal-pals with her real, full name as confusingly both a "friend" and an ex-girlfriend, then we have to replace it with The Wallflower.
::* So basically yeah. Don't make it seem like she was going out with him, don't make her super easy to dox, and you can mention her name where-ever Chris does. Otherwise, it's the Wallflower. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:02, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

==Stating CWCki Policy==

[''The following, title included, is a section I drafted tonight with the aim of putting on the main page. Normally I would just stick it right there, but speaking for the CWCki admins is not something I can reasonably do, humble pleb that I am. I feel that the following passage adequately sums up what the CWCki should and will do, without giving the impression that the CWCki will simply remove whatever anyone feels is not perfectly aligned with their own interests.

Anyone can edit the following as they wish but if a Jerkop says it should/shouldn't say something, please don't change it. The intention is to transmit CWCki policy to [[User:Ronichu|newfags]], [[User:Ronichu|retards]] and casual readers alike.''] -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:31, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

====CWCki Policy====
In March 2010, Chris announced he had a lady friend, a "wallflower" at a meeting for young adults, hereby referred to as "The Wallflower." In a video he released, he dropped her name which allowed more malicious minded trolls to find dox on her and used the CWCki page to post her doxs, her unique fanfiction, etc with intents of trolling her. Given the harassment she received and the potential damage, it was reasonable she felt her personal safety was at risk. As such, she requested that the CWCki rename her page and remove instances of her personal details.

The CWCki administrators intend to uphold their promise to the Wallflower, a promise made in good faith. Chris, however, continues to drop both her real name and pen name in numerous videos, blog postings and pages on his CWCipedia. This makes concealing the Wallflower's identity harder and harder by the day and to *completely* protect the Wallflower would require censorship utterly unprecedented on these fair pages. It would severely compromise the CWCki's stated goal of recording and documenting Chris' life.

As such, the CWCki's policy (if it can be called that) is loosely defined as "''to adhere to the spirit of the agreement with the Wallflower''". That is to say, the CWCki will not make her real name and identity particularly easy to identify, nor will they disseminate Chris' demented idea that the two of them were dating (they most certainly were not, despite what Chris says).

Essentially, any media in which Chris mentions her name in passing will be transcribed faithfully BUT not linked to this article. However, any media that Chris releases that strongly implies (or outright states) that the two of them were dating OR any media which puts her real identity in significant danger will be faithfully transcribed; in this instance, any reference to her will be replaced with "The Wallflower", with a note that these changes were performed and what was removed. It is the belief of the CWCki admins that this fulfils their obligation to the Wallflower.

With that in mind... the bottom line is that the CWCki cannot protect the Wallflower from Chris. We cannot control who views the YouTube videos where he places her pen name as the title and repeatedly begs her, by full and complete name, to have sex with him because $100 is too much to pay for a hooker. By and large, the damage has already been done and nothing the CWCki could have done would have prevented it, nor can we put the genie back in the bottle now that it's out in the world. However, we will adhere to the spirit of the agreement with the Wallflower until such time as Chris makes the situation untenable, or the Wallflower wishes to renegotiate her agreement.

====Reply====
Absolutely beautiful, better than what I was going to do. However, in this case, it's ultimately up to [[User:Cogsdev|Cogs]] as she has the final word in this situation and I'm not one to fuck with Cogs. However, I do believe you provide a rationale for mentioning her real name in instances where Chris utters it and no where else.

The only thing it fails is that ultimately, we should not link her real name to the Wallflower and I believe that banning would be a suitable punishment for those who do. I added a bit of history, because people might need some background, but not sure if the right language to communicate this other bit I'm mentioning.

Well done, but as I said, this is ultimately Cogs's decision as the deal was between her and the Wallflower and trust me, you do not want to fuck with Cogs. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:22, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good. Plus the bit you added Champ, proper Christorians know anyway, and casual troublemakers needn't know It makes sense just to leave the Wallflowers TRUE and HONEST name in black. You mean you don't really run this place? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 17:03, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

:* Okay. Just basically gotta get Cogs to sign off on it. I'll leave this to sit for a day or two, then I'll poke her on her userpage. If I can't get a reply in a week or so, I'll post it since generally people seem to approve. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 22:43, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

== Fuck. Ing. Shit. ==

So he went and did it. He made a goddamn page on her.

The thing reads like 14 year old girl's breakup livejournal. Starts off about how wonderful she is, then angrily blames her for having a facebook page. Then gets all pissed off that she wants nothing to do with him. He makes some reference about "Swapping DNA in a movie" (likely a moronic reference to kissing), and at one point goes "n*****" which hilariously combines racisim and Chris's pathetic censorship. He ends it with a copypasta version of our page, with the bit about anonymity missing, probably in a rare moment of cognizance that we're being more respectful to the poor girl than he is.

It's Lulzy shit but the fact that this is basically him passive-aggressively begging trolls to harass her for daring to not have sex with him pisses me off to no end. I'd really honestly prefer it if Sysop (in her great wisdom) burned the page to the ground before too many people see it. Just tell him that this sort of unmitigated bullshit won't fly and maybe get some tardrage but I kinda doubt that's gonna happen.

Anyway there's plenty of stuff on the page we can incorporate into our article, namely Chris's completely batshit thoughts on her without breaking our word to her, but this whole thing is leaving a very bad taste in my mouth.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:30, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
*THIS. I don't know what to make of the whole mess. Someone need to open a channel to the girl and tell her about this crap. The whole "DNA swapping thing" is creepy even to me and I am quite hard to shock. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 02:34, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
*DNA swapping -- did he ask for a drink of her soda and then slobber on the straw? Maybe he sneezed in the popcorn. [[User:Squirrelbait|Squirrelbait]] 03:10, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Does Cogs deal extend to the CWCipedia? or is for all domains under her control? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 02:32, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
* I don't know, but, I hope it does. I think, in the meantime, we should glean what we can from this page and put it on here since it does have to do with Chris. I'm not saying copypasta the entire page (save it just in case, though), but do what Beat said - put in Chris's batshit insane thoughts on this.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 02:35, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

*Added link to The Wallflower's page that Chris made under "External Links". --[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 02:39, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Holy shit, Chris still has a braincell left - he blanked Wallflower's page and changed her name over to her pen name! HA! I hope this was because she got to him and got angry!--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 03:01, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
* Never mind, Chris just made a new page using her pen name. W. T. F.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 03:10, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
** Fixed the link, now it leads to the newer site.--[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 03:18, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

== Lovely Weather ==

There is speculation in this article that Lovely Weather may be based on She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named. The fact that her IRL name rhymes with "weather" makes this seem quite plausible. It seems a shame not to be able to use at least her first name in the article. [[User:Squirrelbait|Squirrelbait]] 02:45, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Holy shit I'd never noticed that. Although I think it might have been touched upon- given that Chris use of entirely fictional OCs is virtually unheard of. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 02:47, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

:I see that Chris is denying the connection in his new Wallflower page on the cwcipedia. It would be interesting to know exactly when he met her, to see if the timing matches up. Just noticed that he used the word "lovely" to describe her when he wrote about meeting her at that adult social group thing ("met a lovely woman there who likes me too"). [[User:Squirrelbait|Squirrelbait]] 03:02, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

::What kind of stupid name is Lovely Weather is anyway? I'm stumped--[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 03:14, 20 April 2010 (UTC).

The Wallflower

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UJ1A1985:

Talk:The Wallflower

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UJ1A1985: /* Lovely Weather */

==Ye olde shit==

Okay faggots, listen up. No personal details. Ever. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
* Would photos of her count as personal details? There's a photo on this page clearly showing her. --[[User:Marco|Marco]] 01:54, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
** If you're referring to the photo that's currently up there it's a shop - in particular, the facial features are so different that nobody could possibly connect her to the picture unless they'd seen the source photo. --[[User:Team CWCket|Team CWCket]] 11:16, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
*Gotcha. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 01:18, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**Am I missing something here? Didn't Chris just inform us that this girl is no longer interested in him, with Message to the Trolls? So why are we locking down details about her now, when EDF can do no more damage? Or is there more to this?--[[User:Sonichuistehcool|Sonichuistehcool]] 01:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I'm sure that she got some sort of email/phone call, but we don't know enough about her or the situation to assume that she's fully out of the picture. Until then, it's better to have less info than too much info. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 01:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Some explanation please? I mean, all the other galpal articles have info, what happened here? [[User:Dave|Dave]]
*i have received a message from wallflower herself asking for her info to be removed. while i'd rather not remove any information, at the same time, the article was focusing on personal details about the wallflower that weren't at all related to chris. since i'd rather avoid any trouble here, i've complied with her request. this new article should be used purely for chris-related information, since she is part of christory. if chris uploads information, then you can add it here, but don't add anything you found through internet investigation or whatever. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 01:28, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
** A'ight, but can we have a background on the story on cwcki? You know, what happened for them to break up and stuff. [[User:Loserbrain|Loserbrain]] 01:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*** There's no break up as far as I know. But I'm sure something must have happened between yesterday and today. We can document the drama but be vague. Example: Dedicated trolls found her information and then Chris got mad. Real mad. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****Does this mean all the sweetheart pages are going to be changed? -PeaceCeapPea
*****Most of the sweethearts were trolls. Megan avoid this site like rape, so I don't think we need to worry about it. [[User:Loserbrain|Loserbrain]] 02:32, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*Why are we doing this? Didn't Megan ask us for her dox to be taken off the internet? How do we know the message wasn't sent by a troll or a white knight?--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 02:12, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**Have you seen the latest video from Chris? He found the CWCki. I guess "WallFlower" used Google. Another thing; Chris volunteered the info we got on him. She dint. We dint passed the Dox of other sweethearts or made fun of them as we did with her. Just for this, It had to be removed. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 02:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*My apologies for deleting this page this page. I just woke up and I was confused about what the fuck was going on. I thought some faggot thought Chris was talking about two different girls. I absolutely agree with Cogs one hundred percent, if Wallflower requested this page to be taken down, I think that's a humble request given that the article was a threat to her wellbeing. It's not so much trying to cover our asses, I really can understand that the Wallflower (unlike Megan, who really didn't have much of an online presence) would have trolls be a very real threat and unlike Chris, she probably doesn't feed off negative attention.
:I regret that I did not address the dox in the pages. I really wasn't a big fan of having her Facebook, MySpace, etc. profile on there, aside from Chris related issues, mostly because we don't do the same thing for Megan and we shouldn't encourage faggots trolling Chris related people who have little to do with Chris.
:I think one lesson from this is we need to discuss some sort of privacy policy for CWCki. A less brash version of Clyde's dictum is that we should possibly treat pages about people only from the Chris universe perspective, that is how Chris views them and sees them as opposed to digging into personal details from online investigations. But yeah, people, let's not do shit like post MySpaces, Facebooks, and don't post people's personal information unless Chris posts it on the Internet for everyone to see. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:46, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:* Seems fair enough. There was, in retrospect, no hope of keeping a lid on this whole thing, I think, no matter how much or how little personal info got posted here - as soon as her given name got out there, it was inevitable that some goof was gonna link her to this or to the ED page or to the sex doll video or whatever else. But that seems like a good policy for simple decency's sake. I apologize for getting carried away with all the links on the page yesterday. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 12:59, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

*I think the wording of this article should be more explicit as to how and what kind of idiot it was that contacted her over all this. I mean most EDF retards won't read krapple or PVCC etc. but they do read the Cwcki, and it might help in the future to have here an example to hold up of what exactly happens when you go the JULAYYY route of trolling. [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 02:37, 11 March 2010 (UTC) 02:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

**Who cares about it, it seems something else is stirring within Chris. Guess he still has it out for me. Hmph. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 07:57, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

***I think we ought to be more careful with the information we post here. Most if not all CWCki contributors are either on /cwc/ or PVCC, but the readers are partially dumbasses (not just from EDF, I presume) who will fuck shit up. Yes, it's a shame this happens, but ultimately we are to blame here. It was very obvious the CWCki article on her would lead to someone contacting her. Documenting information is important, but perhaps there should be some articles protected from viewing? I don't know. --[[User:Wtv|Wtv]] 10:48, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*combine with the sonichu crystals to the [Wallflower] page?? [[user:I_Love_Little_Girls|I Love Little Girls]] 10:23, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::no they want that page gone, that's why it's over here without any references to her personally. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 11:03, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::oh, i see. whatevss [[user:I_Love_Little_Girls|I Love Little Girls]] 11:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*Yeah, I thought the same thing so don't feel bad. tl;dr is that Wallflower asked for it to be removed and Cogs complied, because it was a reasonable request. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

*Wow, now we turned into Moralfags and we are going to censor trolling, for the sake of the trolls who already know who she is. Also, it is not that difficult to do a fucking google search and found everything there is to found about this girl, so this is just stupid. If you had any respect in the first place for any of the friends or family of chris chan you would not have all the information you have on them all over the page, and that's not the case, so for what I can see here this is a very hypocritical position, or this is just part of a trolling plan.--[[User:SGSS01|SGSS01]] 10:04, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:One, we're not Moralfags.
Two, the dox was removed by her request.
Three, if we put the dox back up, she could net us some downtime for invading her privacy and personal life.
So fuck off. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 21:18, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::Taking down the page because we put information already publicly available on the internet?, lulz, let her send in detectives, send in police, send everything in her power!. I'm sorry but that's not a valid reason, we have personal information about a lot of persons, and many of those don't even use the internet, or is information we got from hacked mail accounts (Cole), and fuck, he really could take the site down just for that, and we still have his article.--[[User:SGSS01|SGSS01]] 03:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:::There's a legal liability out there. Chris says most of what he wants. If he sue the site for libel, he will lose since all the material here mostly came from his own (dirty) hands. Wallflower on the other side came from nowhere and the tone used to describe her was quite unflattering. Keeping Wallflower previous page on line would had brought to this site much trouble (including legal ones) so it was wise to shut it down. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:46, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:::* What about the things that were coerced from him? Do those fall under acceptable use or not?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:12, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
::::*Coercing implies some form of entrapment. At any time Chris had the possibility to walk out and stop posting on the net as Chris-Chan. He dint. Up to there, humping his PS3 is on fact voluntary from his part. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:11, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:We can put name what is she going to do? Chris reveal her name. We are NOT moralfags. If its on the internet its public information (as long as it is not credit card numbers, passwords, or SSN) we are just data mining. --[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 21:30, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::Any troll can go data-mining. We are not trolls, we are Christorians; Holy scribes monitoring the advent and life of the "Messiah Of Fail". It is in our upmost interest to play nice. How many of us would salivate over an e-mail of five lines from Megan ranting about Chris? Let's be nice to the Wallflower; she might bring us something great in the future. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
==Srsly though...==
To improve the article:
# Wallflower really isn't a sweetheart. Nothing public about this yet but as most of you can tell, she's more or less Megan - because she has managed to be around Chris for more than five seconds, Chris takes this to mean sexual interest and a serious relationship.
# We need a pic of a Wallflower. Like, literally, a flower growing out of a wall. Not a drawn pic, but an actual photograph. Shouldn't be too hard to fine, just don't feel like it now. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
[[File:ClydeandLovelyweather.jpg|thumb|center]]
Here you go a photo of what resembles Heather with Clyde Cash --[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 04:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:"We need a pic of a Wallflower. Like, literally, a flower growing out of a wall." Moralfag my ass. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 02:20, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

[[File:Aliteralallflower.jpg|thumb|center]]--[[User:Curseshot|Curseshot]] 21:39, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
:You're winner. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 02:20, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

==Pimp Claim Responsibility==

This bloke known on YouTube as "ThyEnvysGreed" claim he's the one who [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRr-N5_V_9s alerted wallflower]. What should we do with this faggot? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
* It's possible the guy's full of shit and just taking credit for something. Going by the comments 'they' have been making, this is quite likely; his 'group' seems to be out to make a name for themselves rather than just have a laugh at Chris's expense. Aside from that, just do what everyone seems to be doing already; spam his comments informing him of what a massive prick he is and that he should lay off the fucking donuts. [[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 16:51, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:*This. Seriously, guys, let's not give credit to faggots who want attention. Damage is done, we need to move on. Besides [[CWCki:CWCki_is#CWCki_is_about_Chris|CWCki is about Chris]], not so much faggots like this. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:12, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**I agree with the comment spamming, just piledrive him into the dirt. He fucked up an opportunity for some awesome shit. I would understand if he were trying to get a laugh out of messing with Chris, but he's just looking for e-fame. I say we don't give him that much attention unless it's totally negative.--[[User:JRampancy|JRampancy]] 16:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I'll need to find the picture I saw on /cwc/, but he also had an account on Fanfiction.net and I think that's how he alerted her, since I don't think they allow anonymous reviews anymore. And it was the same screen name.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 17:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****Well gentlemen, I believe it's time to do what we do best. IT'S TROLLING TIME, LADS.[[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 17:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*Faggot deleted it. Did anyone save it? '''[[User:Odettafag|blind justice.]]''' [[User talk:Odettafag|to each his own.]] 18:11, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
** [http://rs336.rapidshare.com/files/362046356/whatafuckingtard.flv It's right there] [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:02, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*** Thanks! '''[[User:Odettafag|blind justice.]]''' [[User talk:Odettafag|to each his own.]] 19:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
He's a troll, you guys. Attention will only make him stronger unless we find his house (which is unlikely). Until someone can dox him, the best course of action is to ignore him, depriving him of his e-fame. Bonus points if fifty different accounts simultaneously claim that they're the ones who pissed off Wallflower so nobody takes his claims seriously.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 18:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I can't believe he tucked tail and ran away so quickly. He did post on [[A message to the Trolls]] which is still there for the viewing. [[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 20:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)meeko
***There's also a message in [[Don't Mess With Me]], still in plain view and for all to see. He's like The Pinch - a coward who wants e-fame. Pure and simple.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 21:07, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*He destroyed your guy's plans to get drama out of a guy! Oh no. Just calm down. Seriously, it's not a big deal. [[User:Chaosakita|Chaosakita]] 05:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:* It is. Chris is the most interesting when conversing with "normal" people - especially women. --[[User:Derpalerp|Derpalerp]] 08:28, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

** I found anothe possible leaker on twitter he/she says and I quote "Sonichuproducts @CWCSonichu I dare your faggot ass to do a curse ya fuck yo momma or whatever it is on me, I told Heather you dirty Retarded bitch."

could it be a lead or just an attention seeking fag?--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 23:17, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
*Krapple did a bit of detective work and found that he has another account-"6thof66" or something like that. Calls himself "the Agonstic Saint" and says he rejected his real name- his friends call him Sage after some wise man, according to him. He's 24 and lives somewhere in Texas. He lives alone and cut off all ties with his family. His videos there are mostly of him bitching and moaning about religion in general and Christianity in particular. Most importantly, one of his videos shows his license plate number- BJ6-G449. Make the most of it.--[[User:This guy|This guy]] 14:17, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
**Never mind, the above isn't thyenvysgreed. It was a fake lead put by a butthurt ED lurker with a grudge. He still looks like he's worth trolling, though.--[[User:This guy|This guy]] 14:43, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
==Now that Chris has dropped her name...==
Is it ok to mention her first name on this page?--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 15:41, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
*You have a point, and I see the logic, but I think the whole point of removing her name was sending a message to the rest of the trolls (and the external observers) that we are actually decent people. To go back on that would be to lose a social lead which is more valuable than the person's name. Again, this is just what I think. Feel free to prove me wrong. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 15:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
*But there is no point in hiding her name, the problem with his page was the loads of information about her, not related to Chris, and since Chris mentioned her name; her name, her relation to Chris and anything Chris related shall be posted here, no more info about her. [[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 16:05, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:*You make a fair point, however given that Chris 1) assumes that it's a video only Tito will watch (forgetting that public YouTube videos are, you know, public) and 2) he's retarded like that, the thought that mentioning her name again probably didn't cross his mind. However, Wallflower asked us nicely to remove her page and adding her name back would sort of violate the spirit of that agreement. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:56, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::* I understand, but then, should we censor part of the kilt video when Chris says her name?, of course, keeping a copy of the original, and linking it on the page, and replacing her name with the pseudonym in the transcript. Better safe than sorry.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 17:31, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*In my opinion, censoring the material would only draw more attention to the Wallflower's identity. People would start looking at the stuff that has been deliberately removed and get more and more curious and try to find it. Especially if we have a copy of video with the name bleeped or transcript with the name removed, while Chris has the actual video up on his own account. My idea would be ''not'' to cover her identity specifically (which this article already does that), but if Chris keeps rambling about it, there's little we can really do. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 17:53, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::::* But this page, as well as the LittleBigPlanet one reference the wallflower's name and her likes, is not really hard to find her anyways.By the way, someone already censored it in the kilt video.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 18:24, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::* It would be nice if someone contact Wallflower and tells her that Chris keep on yelling her name on the internet while wearing a dress. I am concerned with all this. A well-determined Grieffer can still reach her because the manchild can't keep his pie-hole shut.[[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::**I've sent two messages to her on Facebook and she hasn't responded yet. Also, PVCC isn't telling us something--Scarlet/Kim/Emily knows Heather, according to Chris.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 18:38, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::***Interesting twist. In this case, our best option is to lie down and wait for the PVCC to make their moves. They always bring the best Lulz. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:32, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
No. The CWCki needs to be smart about this kind of thing. When a person is angry about Chris's antics and actively asks the CWCki to take their information down, that person should be respected. It's fine to document Chris's antics that he publicly puts online, but Wallflower did not ask to be a part of Chris's online life and has specifically tried to distance herself from all this. For that matter, I'm of the opinion that if Megan ever came to the CWCki and asked to have materials taken down or hidden, it should be done, too. Same goes for Bob, Barb or anyone else who has not deliberately made themselves a part of Chris's online life. If a person deliberately makes themselves a part of Chris's online life, then their "details" are a fair thing to put up. If they are trying as hard as they can to get away from Chris's online life, then their "details" should be respected. The CWCki needs to be wise when it comes to liabilities. It is one thing to put up Chris's funny antics that he's made known publicly. It is another thing to put up unnecessary personal details of a person who has never asked to associate with Chris in a public way. Besides, all said and done, there's no need to document her name or her personal information to track Chris's stupid antics. It doesn't make Chris's antics any more funny. This brings up a great debate for the CWCki though: how far is too far? For me, I would hope there are limits. This is not a "lulz" site. [[User:Elephant|Elephant]] 20:28, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

:::My two cents is adding first name is ok since he mentioned it and it is an unspecific referential index, which means it is vague. I don't see a problem with putting their names online since you can get records with their names on it from realtors, department of elections, white pages, or the city accessor's office for free. We should put in Damian Antaria and Heather into the article since Chris mentioned it. The CWCki '''Only''' records encounters with Chris not personal information such as SSN or credit card numbers. By your logic we would have to take down the site if Chris makes the request which is NOT going to happen. The CWCki site is only recording what Chris is doing. If anyone is to be held liable it is Chris for revealing the information. For example: ''When Scooter Libby leaked info on Valerie Plame the CIA agent to the New York Times, the New York Times did not get in trouble'' If trolls wanted to find the information they would with or without the CWCki. --[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 20:52, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I support her name not neing intentionally added here. I do, however, think it is stupid to try to hide her name intentionally. I think we should refer to her as the Wallflower, but if Chris says it in a video, merely changing it in the transcript is not only ineffective, it is annoying. If he presents the information, it takes 2 seconds to watch the video and hear the name. We let it stay in the transcripts merely for the sake of flow, but then we don't call her by that name anywhere else. I think that will give everyone pretty much what they want, as her name is not spread and her info is not known, but it isn't an eyesore to read and I don't have to be constantly reminded that I'm not supposed to know her name.
Tl;dr: Hiding the name on purpose is futile and, in a selfish light, detracts from my experience (which I rail against with full force). Don't take it out of what he says, but don't put it up elsewhere. That also means that the people who missed all this won't go insane trying to find info. Meh, my idea sucks, but I'll put it out there. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 21:44, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
* I agree that it's easy to put the information together; if you Google up the information that Chris has given, you can find her easily. I think we should do more or less as you've said- present exactly what Chris says and not link the two together. Anyone who is really confused can look it up. It's no less confusing to a newb, IMO, than the articles that refer to Chris as "Ian" and Liquid as "Chris". [[User:BubblegumPinkButler|BubblegumPinkButler]] 00:21, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
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* In case no one has been keeping tabs, the alias currently in the page had been discarded, so now we should be completely safe. (Did one of you talk to her?) --[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 02:56, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
* For those of you keeping score at home, Chris himself has published her full name on the Cwcipedia under an exhaustive list of 'Past Sweethearts'. (yes yes ffffffff, goddammit chris, etc etc) Considering this nugget of fail was yielded unprovoked by the manchild, would it be against the 'no irl names' rule on this page to at least link to his cwcipedia page on here? [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 02:27, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
== Suggested Name Change ==

In his most recent [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|video]], Chris refers to the wallflower as "Damian Antaria". I suggest we change the article to reflect this. "The wallflower" is simply a name the trolls gave her. Our purpose here is to document Chris, and so, if this is what he calls her, this is what we call her. This isn't meant to throw her personal information out there, or even link this article to her writings. If Chris wants to give us this name, then that's her name. Just saying. What do you guys think? --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 23:17, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
:I disagree for two reasons; First, Wallflower asked that we remove all her personal info. This includes, in my opinion, her pen name. Then, many Christorians out-there have adopted the name "Wallflower" to name her. Why changing that good habit and risking confusion? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 00:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

:Because [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Template:Captain%27s_Log&oldid=4013| Chris thinks we took this page down because he told us to]. I think we need to make it clear that we removed the information because "Damian Antaria" asked us to, not due to Chris' bloated ego and aggressive, one-sided demands --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 02:31, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

:: Chris probably just takes quick looks at the pages, i doubt that changing the name will have any effect on him, besides, the page states ""The Wallflower" aka Damian Antaria...", so, there is no need for a name change, it would be like changing articles like " Punchy sonichu" to "Punchy "Fighting" sonichu", considering that's the species for Punchy, but trolls know him as Punchy Sonichu.Ttherefore, no name change is needed.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 03:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Alright then, I agree the name is fine as is. --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 16:05, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

: So as long as its not Chris asking, we can't put information up on any person if they say stop? So if Bob or Barbara is overheard in a video or phone chat saying they don't want to be on the internet, we need to take down all references to them? [[User:Double Nega|Double Nega]] 16:20, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
:* This is a separate case we will need to visit if it happen. The guideline regarding WallFlower was simple; she's a victim of Chris. The term "Megan 2.0" applies here. If she asked the material to be removed, I think it is ethical to do so. Bob and Barbara are enablers. This is a whole new ballgame to me. Of course, Chris being the fucktard that he is, will keep on dropping her Dox everywhere. We don't need to be "insensitive" as he is. Besides, WallFlower might be tempted to talk to us if we play nice... [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:44, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

== Her Side of the Story ==

Has anyone tried contacting her to get her side of the story? If she is an innocent victim of Chris, than we should allow her to post her version of events as to how they met, and whether Chris was actually her boyfriend (Which I highly doubt) or merely just an friend that he wanted to rape. I know she sent an email asking for her page to be taken down, so that must me that the admins have an email address for her. It would be very enlightening to learn what relationship she has with Tito, and if she became Chris's new Megan. If she's already stated that she doesn't want to comment, that's cool. she's been victimized enough [[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 11:37, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

*she's already contacted the cwcki herself. similar to megan, she doesn't want to tell her side but fair enough. just let her be. one day, the truth may come out but not now. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 15:39, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

True. I only bring this up because it seem's she has surfaced on youtube, talking about Chris. Whether the accounts is real or a fake is up for discussion [[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 11:37, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

== Remove the fanfiction.net image? ==

I was wondering- should the "How to troll trolls & Chris" image (the_link.jpg) of fanfiction.net be removed? Surfshack Tito has been shown to be the one who informed the Wallflower about Chris's true life & internet infamy. I didn't recollect seeing any info about the "ThyEnvysGreed" person on the article anymore (unless I missed it just now), so I kind of think it should be removed because it really doesn't have much to do with the Wallflower herself or Chris, not really anyway. I thought I'd ask here first, though. [[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 18:44, 24 March 2010 (UTC)meeko
:*I have uploaded the image for two reasons. First, we have the historical context. This is THE message that blew-up Chris's cover as a decent bloke and ended the 8 hours Wallflower Saga. Then, it also proves us our prominence as the source of everything CWC-related. Wallflower wasn't pointed to ED but to us. This says something by itself. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:21, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
:My only thing though, is how do we know that this is how Wallflower found out? Chris has said Tito did it (after saying Clyde did it, of course), but Tito hasn't revealed how he did it. My problem is that all we have to go on is the claims of 'ThyEnvysGreed'. Also, Chris hasn't specified how Wallflower found out, nor has the lady herself. We don't really have any proof of it, is all. [[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 13:15, 25 March 2010 (UTC)meeko
::*No, we don't have a point-by-point list about how Wallflower found out Chris's faggotery. This is something she might explain to us if she so chose. This being said, the screen shot proves us that someone hinted the lady towards the CWCki. For me, this is close enough. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 13:50, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

== Friend Zone ==

"He has no truck with the notion of "just friends." The Wallflower may have felt otherwise, which could explain Chris's angry remarks on the subject of the "friend zone" in the 15 January 2010 edition of the Mailbag."

I'm not sure about this section staying in. Chris has been angry at the Friend Zone as early as [[Mailbag 4]] which was way back in November.[[User:Wise dude321|Wise dude321]] 05:08, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

==Can we change the name?==
Since Chris has (once again) dropped The Wallflower's full name, can we change the name of the page? I know that we're only to upload information as it pertains to Chris but since he put it up on the Cwcipedia does that make it legit to put her name up here now? --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 02:29, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:She asked us not to.
:So no. We shouldn't. Ever.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:32, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:*Chris is retarded. We are not retarded. Lemme rephrase that; just because Chris does it, that doesn't make it okay for us to do it. We are better than him, rememeber? Plus, as the almighty Beat already said, she specifically asked us to take down the info and we are not ED. If she changes her mind, the info can go back up, but not before then no matter HOW many times Chris says: I DO NOT WANT ANYONE MENTIONING <her full name> ONLINE EVER! -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 03:18, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
::*Shit, I'm almighty now? When did this happen?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:00, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:::*Face it Beat, you are awesome. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 04:03, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:::*April 11th, 2:31am GMT. Just FYI. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 04:27, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

:*To reiterate, the reason the page was changed was because Wallflower's personal safety was threatened by this page - not that we were hurting her directly, just that people were posting doxs and stuff and were starting to harass her (in other words, this is why we can't have nice things). The fact she's a fanfic author, not that attractive by conventional Western standards of beauty, and her information is easily available online makes her a target for your average Internet troll.

::I'm not a big fan of censorship. I find it abhorrent. I am someone who believes information should be free and whatnot. However, Wallflower did make a request and it's always been the case where if someone felt that their privacy was threatened, we would accommodate to their request (i.e. "plz don't sue"). Unlike Wikipedia, what we're doing isn't exactly kosher to begin with (i.e. an entire wiki to document the misadventures of an autistic shell of a man for purposes of internet trolling as opposed to a free and open source of information)

::My solution would be as such - instances where Chris mentions her real name are mentioned, but not linked to her. We keep this article and perhaps mention these instances where the name is mentioned.

::CWCki should serve as a portal for uncensored and unadulterated access to Chris and his mind. Otherwise, a wiki cannot truly function. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:08, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

:::*Brilliant. Champ says it better than I ever could. Mind if I quote this post any time people keep bringing up this issue? -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 09:54, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

So quick question, what if Chris (in all his fucktardary) was stupid enough to tell info about her on the internet (like where she lives, her phone number, and other personal info and pictures) would that mean that we would have to record it? He did it with Megan and other people in his life, how do you know he's going to do it with the wallflower? --[[User:Yoshi2021|Yoshi2021]] 11:23, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:If Chris did shit like that, it's my personal hope that his sysop would delete the page and tell him to quit his shit. Yeah, I know we're doing the whole "No shit is too minor!" thing, but most of these girls are actual people. They don't deserve newfags sending them pizzas for the rest of their lives just because they weren't openly cruel to a retard back in high school.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 13:08, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:*I agree with the most honourable Beat on this one. I believe for now the official policy is that we document any time Chris drops her name, but not link it to the Wallflower article, as long as it's not something that a) implies she was going out with him or b) makes her super-easy to dox.
:Specifically:

::If he mentions her full name ''yet again'' in the transcript of a video, then we can transcribe it verbatim.
::If he creates a video with her ''pen-name'' name as the title, we can transcribe it verbatim.
::If he makes a list of his gal-pals with her real, full name as confusingly both a "friend" and an ex-girlfriend, then we have to replace it with The Wallflower.
::* So basically yeah. Don't make it seem like she was going out with him, don't make her super easy to dox, and you can mention her name where-ever Chris does. Otherwise, it's the Wallflower. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:02, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

==Stating CWCki Policy==

[''The following, title included, is a section I drafted tonight with the aim of putting on the main page. Normally I would just stick it right there, but speaking for the CWCki admins is not something I can reasonably do, humble pleb that I am. I feel that the following passage adequately sums up what the CWCki should and will do, without giving the impression that the CWCki will simply remove whatever anyone feels is not perfectly aligned with their own interests.

Anyone can edit the following as they wish but if a Jerkop says it should/shouldn't say something, please don't change it. The intention is to transmit CWCki policy to [[User:Ronichu|newfags]], [[User:Ronichu|retards]] and casual readers alike.''] -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:31, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

====CWCki Policy====
In March 2010, Chris announced he had a lady friend, a "wallflower" at a meeting for young adults, hereby referred to as "The Wallflower." In a video he released, he dropped her name which allowed more malicious minded trolls to find dox on her and used the CWCki page to post her doxs, her unique fanfiction, etc with intents of trolling her. Given the harassment she received and the potential damage, it was reasonable she felt her personal safety was at risk. As such, she requested that the CWCki rename her page and remove instances of her personal details.

The CWCki administrators intend to uphold their promise to the Wallflower, a promise made in good faith. Chris, however, continues to drop both her real name and pen name in numerous videos, blog postings and pages on his CWCipedia. This makes concealing the Wallflower's identity harder and harder by the day and to *completely* protect the Wallflower would require censorship utterly unprecedented on these fair pages. It would severely compromise the CWCki's stated goal of recording and documenting Chris' life.

As such, the CWCki's policy (if it can be called that) is loosely defined as "''to adhere to the spirit of the agreement with the Wallflower''". That is to say, the CWCki will not make her real name and identity particularly easy to identify, nor will they disseminate Chris' demented idea that the two of them were dating (they most certainly were not, despite what Chris says).

Essentially, any media in which Chris mentions her name in passing will be transcribed faithfully BUT not linked to this article. However, any media that Chris releases that strongly implies (or outright states) that the two of them were dating OR any media which puts her real identity in significant danger will be faithfully transcribed; in this instance, any reference to her will be replaced with "The Wallflower", with a note that these changes were performed and what was removed. It is the belief of the CWCki admins that this fulfils their obligation to the Wallflower.

With that in mind... the bottom line is that the CWCki cannot protect the Wallflower from Chris. We cannot control who views the YouTube videos where he places her pen name as the title and repeatedly begs her, by full and complete name, to have sex with him because $100 is too much to pay for a hooker. By and large, the damage has already been done and nothing the CWCki could have done would have prevented it, nor can we put the genie back in the bottle now that it's out in the world. However, we will adhere to the spirit of the agreement with the Wallflower until such time as Chris makes the situation untenable, or the Wallflower wishes to renegotiate her agreement.

====Reply====
Absolutely beautiful, better than what I was going to do. However, in this case, it's ultimately up to [[User:Cogsdev|Cogs]] as she has the final word in this situation and I'm not one to fuck with Cogs. However, I do believe you provide a rationale for mentioning her real name in instances where Chris utters it and no where else.

The only thing it fails is that ultimately, we should not link her real name to the Wallflower and I believe that banning would be a suitable punishment for those who do. I added a bit of history, because people might need some background, but not sure if the right language to communicate this other bit I'm mentioning.

Well done, but as I said, this is ultimately Cogs's decision as the deal was between her and the Wallflower and trust me, you do not want to fuck with Cogs. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:22, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good. Plus the bit you added Champ, proper Christorians know anyway, and casual troublemakers needn't know It makes sense just to leave the Wallflowers TRUE and HONEST name in black. You mean you don't really run this place? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 17:03, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

:* Okay. Just basically gotta get Cogs to sign off on it. I'll leave this to sit for a day or two, then I'll poke her on her userpage. If I can't get a reply in a week or so, I'll post it since generally people seem to approve. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 22:43, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

== Fuck. Ing. Shit. ==

So he went and did it. He made a goddamn page on her.

The thing reads like 14 year old girl's breakup livejournal. Starts off about how wonderful she is, then angrily blames her for having a facebook page. Then gets all pissed off that she wants nothing to do with him. He makes some reference about "Swapping DNA in a movie" (likely a moronic reference to kissing), and at one point goes "n*****" which hilariously combines racisim and Chris's pathetic censorship. He ends it with a copypasta version of our page, with the bit about anonymity missing, probably in a rare moment of cognizance that we're being more respectful to the poor girl than he is.

It's Lulzy shit but the fact that this is basically him passive-aggressively begging trolls to harass her for daring to not have sex with him pisses me off to no end. I'd really honestly prefer it if Sysop (in her great wisdom) burned the page to the ground before too many people see it. Just tell him that this sort of unmitigated bullshit won't fly and maybe get some tardrage but I kinda doubt that's gonna happen.

Anyway there's plenty of stuff on the page we can incorporate into our article, namely Chris's completely batshit thoughts on her without breaking our word to her, but this whole thing is leaving a very bad taste in my mouth.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:30, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
*THIS. I don't know what to make of the whole mess. Someone need to open a channel to the girl and tell her about this crap. The whole "DNA swapping thing" is creepy even to me and I am quite hard to shock. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 02:34, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
*DNA swapping -- did he ask for a drink of her soda and then slobber on the straw? Maybe he sneezed in the popcorn. [[User:Squirrelbait|Squirrelbait]] 03:10, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Does Cogs deal extend to the CWCipedia? or is for all domains under her control? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 02:32, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
* I don't know, but, I hope it does. I think, in the meantime, we should glean what we can from this page and put it on here since it does have to do with Chris. I'm not saying copypasta the entire page (save it just in case, though), but do what Beat said - put in Chris's batshit insane thoughts on this.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 02:35, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

*Added link to The Wallflower's page that Chris made under "External Links". --[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 02:39, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Holy shit, Chris still has a braincell left - he blanked Wallflower's page and changed her name over to her pen name! HA! I hope this was because she got to him and got angry!--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 03:01, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
* Never mind, Chris just made a new page using her pen name. W. T. F.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 03:10, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

== Lovely Weather ==

There is speculation in this article that Lovely Weather may be based on She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named. The fact that her IRL name rhymes with "weather" makes this seem quite plausible. It seems a shame not to be able to use at least her first name in the article. [[User:Squirrelbait|Squirrelbait]] 02:45, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Holy shit I'd never noticed that. Although I think it might have been touched upon- given that Chris use of entirely fictional OCs is virtually unheard of. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 02:47, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

:I see that Chris is denying the connection in his new Wallflower page on the cwcipedia. It would be interesting to know exactly when he met her, to see if the timing matches up. Just noticed that he used the word "lovely" to describe her when he wrote about meeting her at that adult social group thing ("met a lovely woman there who likes me too"). [[User:Squirrelbait|Squirrelbait]] 03:02, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

::What kind of stupid name is Lovely Weather is anyway? I'm stumped--[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 03:14, 20 April 2010 (UTC).

Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)

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UJ1A1985:

Believe it or not folks, [[Christian Weston Chandler]] created a page all about [[The Wallflower]] on [[CWCipedia]] , just after creating [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|a page on all his gal-pals and sweethearts in the same week.]] Like that page, he kept the real name of The Wallflower intact!

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*Page created, need help on correcting the spelling on the title. --[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 03:05, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Damien Antaria (CWCipedia page)

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UJ1A1985:

Believe it or not folks, [[Christian Weston Chandler]] created a page all about [[The Wallflower]] on [[CWCpedia] , just after creating [[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)|a page on all his gal-pals and sweethearts in the same week.]] Like that page, he kept the real name of The Wallflower intact!

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Talk:The Wallflower

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UJ1A1985:

==Ye olde shit==

Okay faggots, listen up. No personal details. Ever. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
* Would photos of her count as personal details? There's a photo on this page clearly showing her. --[[User:Marco|Marco]] 01:54, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
** If you're referring to the photo that's currently up there it's a shop - in particular, the facial features are so different that nobody could possibly connect her to the picture unless they'd seen the source photo. --[[User:Team CWCket|Team CWCket]] 11:16, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
*Gotcha. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 01:18, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**Am I missing something here? Didn't Chris just inform us that this girl is no longer interested in him, with Message to the Trolls? So why are we locking down details about her now, when EDF can do no more damage? Or is there more to this?--[[User:Sonichuistehcool|Sonichuistehcool]] 01:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I'm sure that she got some sort of email/phone call, but we don't know enough about her or the situation to assume that she's fully out of the picture. Until then, it's better to have less info than too much info. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 01:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Some explanation please? I mean, all the other galpal articles have info, what happened here? [[User:Dave|Dave]]
*i have received a message from wallflower herself asking for her info to be removed. while i'd rather not remove any information, at the same time, the article was focusing on personal details about the wallflower that weren't at all related to chris. since i'd rather avoid any trouble here, i've complied with her request. this new article should be used purely for chris-related information, since she is part of christory. if chris uploads information, then you can add it here, but don't add anything you found through internet investigation or whatever. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 01:28, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
** A'ight, but can we have a background on the story on cwcki? You know, what happened for them to break up and stuff. [[User:Loserbrain|Loserbrain]] 01:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*** There's no break up as far as I know. But I'm sure something must have happened between yesterday and today. We can document the drama but be vague. Example: Dedicated trolls found her information and then Chris got mad. Real mad. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****Does this mean all the sweetheart pages are going to be changed? -PeaceCeapPea
*****Most of the sweethearts were trolls. Megan avoid this site like rape, so I don't think we need to worry about it. [[User:Loserbrain|Loserbrain]] 02:32, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*Why are we doing this? Didn't Megan ask us for her dox to be taken off the internet? How do we know the message wasn't sent by a troll or a white knight?--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 02:12, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**Have you seen the latest video from Chris? He found the CWCki. I guess "WallFlower" used Google. Another thing; Chris volunteered the info we got on him. She dint. We dint passed the Dox of other sweethearts or made fun of them as we did with her. Just for this, It had to be removed. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 02:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*My apologies for deleting this page this page. I just woke up and I was confused about what the fuck was going on. I thought some faggot thought Chris was talking about two different girls. I absolutely agree with Cogs one hundred percent, if Wallflower requested this page to be taken down, I think that's a humble request given that the article was a threat to her wellbeing. It's not so much trying to cover our asses, I really can understand that the Wallflower (unlike Megan, who really didn't have much of an online presence) would have trolls be a very real threat and unlike Chris, she probably doesn't feed off negative attention.
:I regret that I did not address the dox in the pages. I really wasn't a big fan of having her Facebook, MySpace, etc. profile on there, aside from Chris related issues, mostly because we don't do the same thing for Megan and we shouldn't encourage faggots trolling Chris related people who have little to do with Chris.
:I think one lesson from this is we need to discuss some sort of privacy policy for CWCki. A less brash version of Clyde's dictum is that we should possibly treat pages about people only from the Chris universe perspective, that is how Chris views them and sees them as opposed to digging into personal details from online investigations. But yeah, people, let's not do shit like post MySpaces, Facebooks, and don't post people's personal information unless Chris posts it on the Internet for everyone to see. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:46, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:* Seems fair enough. There was, in retrospect, no hope of keeping a lid on this whole thing, I think, no matter how much or how little personal info got posted here - as soon as her given name got out there, it was inevitable that some goof was gonna link her to this or to the ED page or to the sex doll video or whatever else. But that seems like a good policy for simple decency's sake. I apologize for getting carried away with all the links on the page yesterday. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 12:59, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

*I think the wording of this article should be more explicit as to how and what kind of idiot it was that contacted her over all this. I mean most EDF retards won't read krapple or PVCC etc. but they do read the Cwcki, and it might help in the future to have here an example to hold up of what exactly happens when you go the JULAYYY route of trolling. [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 02:37, 11 March 2010 (UTC) 02:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

**Who cares about it, it seems something else is stirring within Chris. Guess he still has it out for me. Hmph. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 07:57, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

***I think we ought to be more careful with the information we post here. Most if not all CWCki contributors are either on /cwc/ or PVCC, but the readers are partially dumbasses (not just from EDF, I presume) who will fuck shit up. Yes, it's a shame this happens, but ultimately we are to blame here. It was very obvious the CWCki article on her would lead to someone contacting her. Documenting information is important, but perhaps there should be some articles protected from viewing? I don't know. --[[User:Wtv|Wtv]] 10:48, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*combine with the sonichu crystals to the [Wallflower] page?? [[user:I_Love_Little_Girls|I Love Little Girls]] 10:23, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::no they want that page gone, that's why it's over here without any references to her personally. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 11:03, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::oh, i see. whatevss [[user:I_Love_Little_Girls|I Love Little Girls]] 11:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*Yeah, I thought the same thing so don't feel bad. tl;dr is that Wallflower asked for it to be removed and Cogs complied, because it was a reasonable request. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

*Wow, now we turned into Moralfags and we are going to censor trolling, for the sake of the trolls who already know who she is. Also, it is not that difficult to do a fucking google search and found everything there is to found about this girl, so this is just stupid. If you had any respect in the first place for any of the friends or family of chris chan you would not have all the information you have on them all over the page, and that's not the case, so for what I can see here this is a very hypocritical position, or this is just part of a trolling plan.--[[User:SGSS01|SGSS01]] 10:04, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:One, we're not Moralfags.
Two, the dox was removed by her request.
Three, if we put the dox back up, she could net us some downtime for invading her privacy and personal life.
So fuck off. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 21:18, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::Taking down the page because we put information already publicly available on the internet?, lulz, let her send in detectives, send in police, send everything in her power!. I'm sorry but that's not a valid reason, we have personal information about a lot of persons, and many of those don't even use the internet, or is information we got from hacked mail accounts (Cole), and fuck, he really could take the site down just for that, and we still have his article.--[[User:SGSS01|SGSS01]] 03:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:::There's a legal liability out there. Chris says most of what he wants. If he sue the site for libel, he will lose since all the material here mostly came from his own (dirty) hands. Wallflower on the other side came from nowhere and the tone used to describe her was quite unflattering. Keeping Wallflower previous page on line would had brought to this site much trouble (including legal ones) so it was wise to shut it down. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:46, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:::* What about the things that were coerced from him? Do those fall under acceptable use or not?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:12, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
::::*Coercing implies some form of entrapment. At any time Chris had the possibility to walk out and stop posting on the net as Chris-Chan. He dint. Up to there, humping his PS3 is on fact voluntary from his part. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:11, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:We can put name what is she going to do? Chris reveal her name. We are NOT moralfags. If its on the internet its public information (as long as it is not credit card numbers, passwords, or SSN) we are just data mining. --[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 21:30, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::Any troll can go data-mining. We are not trolls, we are Christorians; Holy scribes monitoring the advent and life of the "Messiah Of Fail". It is in our upmost interest to play nice. How many of us would salivate over an e-mail of five lines from Megan ranting about Chris? Let's be nice to the Wallflower; she might bring us something great in the future. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
==Srsly though...==
To improve the article:
# Wallflower really isn't a sweetheart. Nothing public about this yet but as most of you can tell, she's more or less Megan - because she has managed to be around Chris for more than five seconds, Chris takes this to mean sexual interest and a serious relationship.
# We need a pic of a Wallflower. Like, literally, a flower growing out of a wall. Not a drawn pic, but an actual photograph. Shouldn't be too hard to fine, just don't feel like it now. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
[[File:ClydeandLovelyweather.jpg|thumb|center]]
Here you go a photo of what resembles Heather with Clyde Cash --[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 04:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:"We need a pic of a Wallflower. Like, literally, a flower growing out of a wall." Moralfag my ass. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 02:20, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

[[File:Aliteralallflower.jpg|thumb|center]]--[[User:Curseshot|Curseshot]] 21:39, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
:You're winner. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 02:20, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

==Pimp Claim Responsibility==

This bloke known on YouTube as "ThyEnvysGreed" claim he's the one who [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRr-N5_V_9s alerted wallflower]. What should we do with this faggot? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
* It's possible the guy's full of shit and just taking credit for something. Going by the comments 'they' have been making, this is quite likely; his 'group' seems to be out to make a name for themselves rather than just have a laugh at Chris's expense. Aside from that, just do what everyone seems to be doing already; spam his comments informing him of what a massive prick he is and that he should lay off the fucking donuts. [[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 16:51, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:*This. Seriously, guys, let's not give credit to faggots who want attention. Damage is done, we need to move on. Besides [[CWCki:CWCki_is#CWCki_is_about_Chris|CWCki is about Chris]], not so much faggots like this. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:12, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**I agree with the comment spamming, just piledrive him into the dirt. He fucked up an opportunity for some awesome shit. I would understand if he were trying to get a laugh out of messing with Chris, but he's just looking for e-fame. I say we don't give him that much attention unless it's totally negative.--[[User:JRampancy|JRampancy]] 16:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I'll need to find the picture I saw on /cwc/, but he also had an account on Fanfiction.net and I think that's how he alerted her, since I don't think they allow anonymous reviews anymore. And it was the same screen name.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 17:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****Well gentlemen, I believe it's time to do what we do best. IT'S TROLLING TIME, LADS.[[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 17:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*Faggot deleted it. Did anyone save it? '''[[User:Odettafag|blind justice.]]''' [[User talk:Odettafag|to each his own.]] 18:11, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
** [http://rs336.rapidshare.com/files/362046356/whatafuckingtard.flv It's right there] [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:02, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*** Thanks! '''[[User:Odettafag|blind justice.]]''' [[User talk:Odettafag|to each his own.]] 19:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
He's a troll, you guys. Attention will only make him stronger unless we find his house (which is unlikely). Until someone can dox him, the best course of action is to ignore him, depriving him of his e-fame. Bonus points if fifty different accounts simultaneously claim that they're the ones who pissed off Wallflower so nobody takes his claims seriously.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 18:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I can't believe he tucked tail and ran away so quickly. He did post on [[A message to the Trolls]] which is still there for the viewing. [[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 20:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)meeko
***There's also a message in [[Don't Mess With Me]], still in plain view and for all to see. He's like The Pinch - a coward who wants e-fame. Pure and simple.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 21:07, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*He destroyed your guy's plans to get drama out of a guy! Oh no. Just calm down. Seriously, it's not a big deal. [[User:Chaosakita|Chaosakita]] 05:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:* It is. Chris is the most interesting when conversing with "normal" people - especially women. --[[User:Derpalerp|Derpalerp]] 08:28, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

** I found anothe possible leaker on twitter he/she says and I quote "Sonichuproducts @CWCSonichu I dare your faggot ass to do a curse ya fuck yo momma or whatever it is on me, I told Heather you dirty Retarded bitch."

could it be a lead or just an attention seeking fag?--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 23:17, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
*Krapple did a bit of detective work and found that he has another account-"6thof66" or something like that. Calls himself "the Agonstic Saint" and says he rejected his real name- his friends call him Sage after some wise man, according to him. He's 24 and lives somewhere in Texas. He lives alone and cut off all ties with his family. His videos there are mostly of him bitching and moaning about religion in general and Christianity in particular. Most importantly, one of his videos shows his license plate number- BJ6-G449. Make the most of it.--[[User:This guy|This guy]] 14:17, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
**Never mind, the above isn't thyenvysgreed. It was a fake lead put by a butthurt ED lurker with a grudge. He still looks like he's worth trolling, though.--[[User:This guy|This guy]] 14:43, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
==Now that Chris has dropped her name...==
Is it ok to mention her first name on this page?--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 15:41, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
*You have a point, and I see the logic, but I think the whole point of removing her name was sending a message to the rest of the trolls (and the external observers) that we are actually decent people. To go back on that would be to lose a social lead which is more valuable than the person's name. Again, this is just what I think. Feel free to prove me wrong. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 15:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
*But there is no point in hiding her name, the problem with his page was the loads of information about her, not related to Chris, and since Chris mentioned her name; her name, her relation to Chris and anything Chris related shall be posted here, no more info about her. [[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 16:05, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:*You make a fair point, however given that Chris 1) assumes that it's a video only Tito will watch (forgetting that public YouTube videos are, you know, public) and 2) he's retarded like that, the thought that mentioning her name again probably didn't cross his mind. However, Wallflower asked us nicely to remove her page and adding her name back would sort of violate the spirit of that agreement. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:56, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::* I understand, but then, should we censor part of the kilt video when Chris says her name?, of course, keeping a copy of the original, and linking it on the page, and replacing her name with the pseudonym in the transcript. Better safe than sorry.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 17:31, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*In my opinion, censoring the material would only draw more attention to the Wallflower's identity. People would start looking at the stuff that has been deliberately removed and get more and more curious and try to find it. Especially if we have a copy of video with the name bleeped or transcript with the name removed, while Chris has the actual video up on his own account. My idea would be ''not'' to cover her identity specifically (which this article already does that), but if Chris keeps rambling about it, there's little we can really do. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 17:53, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::::* But this page, as well as the LittleBigPlanet one reference the wallflower's name and her likes, is not really hard to find her anyways.By the way, someone already censored it in the kilt video.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 18:24, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::* It would be nice if someone contact Wallflower and tells her that Chris keep on yelling her name on the internet while wearing a dress. I am concerned with all this. A well-determined Grieffer can still reach her because the manchild can't keep his pie-hole shut.[[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::**I've sent two messages to her on Facebook and she hasn't responded yet. Also, PVCC isn't telling us something--Scarlet/Kim/Emily knows Heather, according to Chris.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 18:38, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::***Interesting twist. In this case, our best option is to lie down and wait for the PVCC to make their moves. They always bring the best Lulz. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:32, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
No. The CWCki needs to be smart about this kind of thing. When a person is angry about Chris's antics and actively asks the CWCki to take their information down, that person should be respected. It's fine to document Chris's antics that he publicly puts online, but Wallflower did not ask to be a part of Chris's online life and has specifically tried to distance herself from all this. For that matter, I'm of the opinion that if Megan ever came to the CWCki and asked to have materials taken down or hidden, it should be done, too. Same goes for Bob, Barb or anyone else who has not deliberately made themselves a part of Chris's online life. If a person deliberately makes themselves a part of Chris's online life, then their "details" are a fair thing to put up. If they are trying as hard as they can to get away from Chris's online life, then their "details" should be respected. The CWCki needs to be wise when it comes to liabilities. It is one thing to put up Chris's funny antics that he's made known publicly. It is another thing to put up unnecessary personal details of a person who has never asked to associate with Chris in a public way. Besides, all said and done, there's no need to document her name or her personal information to track Chris's stupid antics. It doesn't make Chris's antics any more funny. This brings up a great debate for the CWCki though: how far is too far? For me, I would hope there are limits. This is not a "lulz" site. [[User:Elephant|Elephant]] 20:28, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

:::My two cents is adding first name is ok since he mentioned it and it is an unspecific referential index, which means it is vague. I don't see a problem with putting their names online since you can get records with their names on it from realtors, department of elections, white pages, or the city accessor's office for free. We should put in Damian Antaria and Heather into the article since Chris mentioned it. The CWCki '''Only''' records encounters with Chris not personal information such as SSN or credit card numbers. By your logic we would have to take down the site if Chris makes the request which is NOT going to happen. The CWCki site is only recording what Chris is doing. If anyone is to be held liable it is Chris for revealing the information. For example: ''When Scooter Libby leaked info on Valerie Plame the CIA agent to the New York Times, the New York Times did not get in trouble'' If trolls wanted to find the information they would with or without the CWCki. --[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 20:52, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I support her name not neing intentionally added here. I do, however, think it is stupid to try to hide her name intentionally. I think we should refer to her as the Wallflower, but if Chris says it in a video, merely changing it in the transcript is not only ineffective, it is annoying. If he presents the information, it takes 2 seconds to watch the video and hear the name. We let it stay in the transcripts merely for the sake of flow, but then we don't call her by that name anywhere else. I think that will give everyone pretty much what they want, as her name is not spread and her info is not known, but it isn't an eyesore to read and I don't have to be constantly reminded that I'm not supposed to know her name.
Tl;dr: Hiding the name on purpose is futile and, in a selfish light, detracts from my experience (which I rail against with full force). Don't take it out of what he says, but don't put it up elsewhere. That also means that the people who missed all this won't go insane trying to find info. Meh, my idea sucks, but I'll put it out there. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 21:44, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
* I agree that it's easy to put the information together; if you Google up the information that Chris has given, you can find her easily. I think we should do more or less as you've said- present exactly what Chris says and not link the two together. Anyone who is really confused can look it up. It's no less confusing to a newb, IMO, than the articles that refer to Chris as "Ian" and Liquid as "Chris". [[User:BubblegumPinkButler|BubblegumPinkButler]] 00:21, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Flibel
* In case no one has been keeping tabs, the alias currently in the page had been discarded, so now we should be completely safe. (Did one of you talk to her?) --[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 02:56, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
* For those of you keeping score at home, Chris himself has published her full name on the Cwcipedia under an exhaustive list of 'Past Sweethearts'. (yes yes ffffffff, goddammit chris, etc etc) Considering this nugget of fail was yielded unprovoked by the manchild, would it be against the 'no irl names' rule on this page to at least link to his cwcipedia page on here? [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 02:27, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
== Suggested Name Change ==

In his most recent [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|video]], Chris refers to the wallflower as "Damian Antaria". I suggest we change the article to reflect this. "The wallflower" is simply a name the trolls gave her. Our purpose here is to document Chris, and so, if this is what he calls her, this is what we call her. This isn't meant to throw her personal information out there, or even link this article to her writings. If Chris wants to give us this name, then that's her name. Just saying. What do you guys think? --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 23:17, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
:I disagree for two reasons; First, Wallflower asked that we remove all her personal info. This includes, in my opinion, her pen name. Then, many Christorians out-there have adopted the name "Wallflower" to name her. Why changing that good habit and risking confusion? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 00:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

:Because [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Template:Captain%27s_Log&oldid=4013| Chris thinks we took this page down because he told us to]. I think we need to make it clear that we removed the information because "Damian Antaria" asked us to, not due to Chris' bloated ego and aggressive, one-sided demands --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 02:31, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

:: Chris probably just takes quick looks at the pages, i doubt that changing the name will have any effect on him, besides, the page states ""The Wallflower" aka Damian Antaria...", so, there is no need for a name change, it would be like changing articles like " Punchy sonichu" to "Punchy "Fighting" sonichu", considering that's the species for Punchy, but trolls know him as Punchy Sonichu.Ttherefore, no name change is needed.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 03:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Alright then, I agree the name is fine as is. --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 16:05, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

: So as long as its not Chris asking, we can't put information up on any person if they say stop? So if Bob or Barbara is overheard in a video or phone chat saying they don't want to be on the internet, we need to take down all references to them? [[User:Double Nega|Double Nega]] 16:20, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
:* This is a separate case we will need to visit if it happen. The guideline regarding WallFlower was simple; she's a victim of Chris. The term "Megan 2.0" applies here. If she asked the material to be removed, I think it is ethical to do so. Bob and Barbara are enablers. This is a whole new ballgame to me. Of course, Chris being the fucktard that he is, will keep on dropping her Dox everywhere. We don't need to be "insensitive" as he is. Besides, WallFlower might be tempted to talk to us if we play nice... [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:44, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

== Her Side of the Story ==

Has anyone tried contacting her to get her side of the story? If she is an innocent victim of Chris, than we should allow her to post her version of events as to how they met, and whether Chris was actually her boyfriend (Which I highly doubt) or merely just an friend that he wanted to rape. I know she sent an email asking for her page to be taken down, so that must me that the admins have an email address for her. It would be very enlightening to learn what relationship she has with Tito, and if she became Chris's new Megan. If she's already stated that she doesn't want to comment, that's cool. she's been victimized enough [[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 11:37, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

*she's already contacted the cwcki herself. similar to megan, she doesn't want to tell her side but fair enough. just let her be. one day, the truth may come out but not now. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 15:39, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

True. I only bring this up because it seem's she has surfaced on youtube, talking about Chris. Whether the accounts is real or a fake is up for discussion [[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 11:37, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

== Remove the fanfiction.net image? ==

I was wondering- should the "How to troll trolls & Chris" image (the_link.jpg) of fanfiction.net be removed? Surfshack Tito has been shown to be the one who informed the Wallflower about Chris's true life & internet infamy. I didn't recollect seeing any info about the "ThyEnvysGreed" person on the article anymore (unless I missed it just now), so I kind of think it should be removed because it really doesn't have much to do with the Wallflower herself or Chris, not really anyway. I thought I'd ask here first, though. [[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 18:44, 24 March 2010 (UTC)meeko
:*I have uploaded the image for two reasons. First, we have the historical context. This is THE message that blew-up Chris's cover as a decent bloke and ended the 8 hours Wallflower Saga. Then, it also proves us our prominence as the source of everything CWC-related. Wallflower wasn't pointed to ED but to us. This says something by itself. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:21, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
:My only thing though, is how do we know that this is how Wallflower found out? Chris has said Tito did it (after saying Clyde did it, of course), but Tito hasn't revealed how he did it. My problem is that all we have to go on is the claims of 'ThyEnvysGreed'. Also, Chris hasn't specified how Wallflower found out, nor has the lady herself. We don't really have any proof of it, is all. [[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 13:15, 25 March 2010 (UTC)meeko
::*No, we don't have a point-by-point list about how Wallflower found out Chris's faggotery. This is something she might explain to us if she so chose. This being said, the screen shot proves us that someone hinted the lady towards the CWCki. For me, this is close enough. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 13:50, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

== Friend Zone ==

"He has no truck with the notion of "just friends." The Wallflower may have felt otherwise, which could explain Chris's angry remarks on the subject of the "friend zone" in the 15 January 2010 edition of the Mailbag."

I'm not sure about this section staying in. Chris has been angry at the Friend Zone as early as [[Mailbag 4]] which was way back in November.[[User:Wise dude321|Wise dude321]] 05:08, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

==Can we change the name?==
Since Chris has (once again) dropped The Wallflower's full name, can we change the name of the page? I know that we're only to upload information as it pertains to Chris but since he put it up on the Cwcipedia does that make it legit to put her name up here now? --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 02:29, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:She asked us not to.
:So no. We shouldn't. Ever.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:32, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:*Chris is retarded. We are not retarded. Lemme rephrase that; just because Chris does it, that doesn't make it okay for us to do it. We are better than him, rememeber? Plus, as the almighty Beat already said, she specifically asked us to take down the info and we are not ED. If she changes her mind, the info can go back up, but not before then no matter HOW many times Chris says: I DO NOT WANT ANYONE MENTIONING <her full name> ONLINE EVER! -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 03:18, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
::*Shit, I'm almighty now? When did this happen?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:00, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:::*Face it Beat, you are awesome. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 04:03, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:::*April 11th, 2:31am GMT. Just FYI. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 04:27, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

:*To reiterate, the reason the page was changed was because Wallflower's personal safety was threatened by this page - not that we were hurting her directly, just that people were posting doxs and stuff and were starting to harass her (in other words, this is why we can't have nice things). The fact she's a fanfic author, not that attractive by conventional Western standards of beauty, and her information is easily available online makes her a target for your average Internet troll.

::I'm not a big fan of censorship. I find it abhorrent. I am someone who believes information should be free and whatnot. However, Wallflower did make a request and it's always been the case where if someone felt that their privacy was threatened, we would accommodate to their request (i.e. "plz don't sue"). Unlike Wikipedia, what we're doing isn't exactly kosher to begin with (i.e. an entire wiki to document the misadventures of an autistic shell of a man for purposes of internet trolling as opposed to a free and open source of information)

::My solution would be as such - instances where Chris mentions her real name are mentioned, but not linked to her. We keep this article and perhaps mention these instances where the name is mentioned.

::CWCki should serve as a portal for uncensored and unadulterated access to Chris and his mind. Otherwise, a wiki cannot truly function. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:08, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

:::*Brilliant. Champ says it better than I ever could. Mind if I quote this post any time people keep bringing up this issue? -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 09:54, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

So quick question, what if Chris (in all his fucktardary) was stupid enough to tell info about her on the internet (like where she lives, her phone number, and other personal info and pictures) would that mean that we would have to record it? He did it with Megan and other people in his life, how do you know he's going to do it with the wallflower? --[[User:Yoshi2021|Yoshi2021]] 11:23, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:If Chris did shit like that, it's my personal hope that his sysop would delete the page and tell him to quit his shit. Yeah, I know we're doing the whole "No shit is too minor!" thing, but most of these girls are actual people. They don't deserve newfags sending them pizzas for the rest of their lives just because they weren't openly cruel to a retard back in high school.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 13:08, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:*I agree with the most honourable Beat on this one. I believe for now the official policy is that we document any time Chris drops her name, but not link it to the Wallflower article, as long as it's not something that a) implies she was going out with him or b) makes her super-easy to dox.
:Specifically:

::If he mentions her full name ''yet again'' in the transcript of a video, then we can transcribe it verbatim.
::If he creates a video with her ''pen-name'' name as the title, we can transcribe it verbatim.
::If he makes a list of his gal-pals with her real, full name as confusingly both a "friend" and an ex-girlfriend, then we have to replace it with The Wallflower.
::* So basically yeah. Don't make it seem like she was going out with him, don't make her super easy to dox, and you can mention her name where-ever Chris does. Otherwise, it's the Wallflower. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:02, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

==Stating CWCki Policy==

[''The following, title included, is a section I drafted tonight with the aim of putting on the main page. Normally I would just stick it right there, but speaking for the CWCki admins is not something I can reasonably do, humble pleb that I am. I feel that the following passage adequately sums up what the CWCki should and will do, without giving the impression that the CWCki will simply remove whatever anyone feels is not perfectly aligned with their own interests.

Anyone can edit the following as they wish but if a Jerkop says it should/shouldn't say something, please don't change it. The intention is to transmit CWCki policy to [[User:Ronichu|newfags]], [[User:Ronichu|retards]] and casual readers alike.''] -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:31, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

====CWCki Policy====
In March 2010, Chris announced he had a lady friend, a "wallflower" at a meeting for young adults, hereby referred to as "The Wallflower." In a video he released, he dropped her name which allowed more malicious minded trolls to find dox on her and used the CWCki page to post her doxs, her unique fanfiction, etc with intents of trolling her. Given the harassment she received and the potential damage, it was reasonable she felt her personal safety was at risk. As such, she requested that the CWCki rename her page and remove instances of her personal details.

The CWCki administrators intend to uphold their promise to the Wallflower, a promise made in good faith. Chris, however, continues to drop both her real name and pen name in numerous videos, blog postings and pages on his CWCipedia. This makes concealing the Wallflower's identity harder and harder by the day and to *completely* protect the Wallflower would require censorship utterly unprecedented on these fair pages. It would severely compromise the CWCki's stated goal of recording and documenting Chris' life.

As such, the CWCki's policy (if it can be called that) is loosely defined as "''to adhere to the spirit of the agreement with the Wallflower''". That is to say, the CWCki will not make her real name and identity particularly easy to identify, nor will they disseminate Chris' demented idea that the two of them were dating (they most certainly were not, despite what Chris says).

Essentially, any media in which Chris mentions her name in passing will be transcribed faithfully BUT not linked to this article. However, any media that Chris releases that strongly implies (or outright states) that the two of them were dating OR any media which puts her real identity in significant danger will be faithfully transcribed; in this instance, any reference to her will be replaced with "The Wallflower", with a note that these changes were performed and what was removed. It is the belief of the CWCki admins that this fulfils their obligation to the Wallflower.

With that in mind... the bottom line is that the CWCki cannot protect the Wallflower from Chris. We cannot control who views the YouTube videos where he places her pen name as the title and repeatedly begs her, by full and complete name, to have sex with him because $100 is too much to pay for a hooker. By and large, the damage has already been done and nothing the CWCki could have done would have prevented it, nor can we put the genie back in the bottle now that it's out in the world. However, we will adhere to the spirit of the agreement with the Wallflower until such time as Chris makes the situation untenable, or the Wallflower wishes to renegotiate her agreement.

====Reply====
Absolutely beautiful, better than what I was going to do. However, in this case, it's ultimately up to [[User:Cogsdev|Cogs]] as she has the final word in this situation and I'm not one to fuck with Cogs. However, I do believe you provide a rationale for mentioning her real name in instances where Chris utters it and no where else.

The only thing it fails is that ultimately, we should not link her real name to the Wallflower and I believe that banning would be a suitable punishment for those who do. I added a bit of history, because people might need some background, but not sure if the right language to communicate this other bit I'm mentioning.

Well done, but as I said, this is ultimately Cogs's decision as the deal was between her and the Wallflower and trust me, you do not want to fuck with Cogs. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:22, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good. Plus the bit you added Champ, proper Christorians know anyway, and casual troublemakers needn't know It makes sense just to leave the Wallflowers TRUE and HONEST name in black. You mean you don't really run this place? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 17:03, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

:* Okay. Just basically gotta get Cogs to sign off on it. I'll leave this to sit for a day or two, then I'll poke her on her userpage. If I can't get a reply in a week or so, I'll post it since generally people seem to approve. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 22:43, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

== Fuck. Ing. Shit. ==

So he went and did it. He made a goddamn page on her.

The thing reads like 14 year old girl's breakup livejournal. Starts off about how wonderful she is, then angrily blames her for having a facebook page. Then gets all pissed off that she wants nothing to do with him. He makes some reference about "Swapping DNA in a movie" (likely a moronic reference to kissing), and at one point goes "n*****" which hilariously combines racisim and Chris's pathetic censorship. He ends it with a copypasta version of our page, with the bit about anonymity missing, probably in a rare moment of cognizance that we're being more respectful to the poor girl than he is.

It's Lulzy shit but the fact that this is basically him passive-aggressively begging trolls to harass her for daring to not have sex with him pisses me off to no end. I'd really honestly prefer it if Sysop (in her great wisdom) burned the page to the ground before too many people see it. Just tell him that this sort of unmitigated bullshit won't fly and maybe get some tardrage but I kinda doubt that's gonna happen.

Anyway there's plenty of stuff on the page we can incorporate into our article, namely Chris's completely batshit thoughts on her without breaking our word to her, but this whole thing is leaving a very bad taste in my mouth.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:30, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
*THIS. I don't know what to make of the whole mess. Someone need to open a channel to the girl and tell her about this crap. The whole "DNA swapping thing" is creepy even to me and I am quite hard to shock. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 02:34, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Does Cogs deal extend to the CWCipedia? or is for all domains under her control? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 02:32, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
* I don't know, but, I hope it does. I think, in the meantime, we should glean what we can from this page and put it on here since it does have to do with Chris. I'm not saying copypasta the entire page (save it just in case, though), but do what Beat said - put in Chris's batshit insane thoughts on this.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 02:35, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

*Added link to The Wallflower's page that Chris made under "External Links". --[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 02:39, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

The Wallflower

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Hi guys, I think this might be a fake account: http://twitter.com/search?q=-RT%20sonichu+-sonichu1%20-wildsonichu1%20-MaryLeeWalsh1%20-Sandy_Rosechu%20-WildSonichu1#search?q=-RT%20sonichu%20-sonichu1%20-wildsonichu1%20-MaryLeeWalsh1%20-Sandy_Rosechu%20-WildSonichu1 [[User:Godz1lla|Godz1lla]] 18:27, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
*Twitter link is broke. Can you fix it? [[User:SniperFire16|SniperFire16]]
:*This should work: http://twitter.com/#search?q=crescentskunk I'm not sure about this any more though, the account seems to be different now that I've seen crescentskunk's preview, I might have just jumped the gun a bit.[[User:Godz1lla|Godz1lla]] 08:52, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
I'll set to putting together a summary of this, I guess. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 22:38, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::*I'll check the link later, but thank much for posting a fresh one.--[[User:SniperFire16|SniperFire16]] 00:30, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
*The current format sucks (no offense). We need to mirror the content - the last Hook Cafe ad Chris had is forever lost in time, so now we need to mirror this for when this inevitably gets hacked. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:52, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:* So you want it all replicated word-for-word? Easily done. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 22:55, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

*Chris's favorite radio station: http://www.z95.net/ --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 23:02, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:* And it's...yep, home to the John Tesh show. Weird. So far as I can tell this is like a station for 35-year-old women. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 23:08, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::*I think the numerous John Tesh references (at least the times he's popped up in the background of calls) might warrant an article for the guy.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:17, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::*I was about to say the exact same thing. Especially since he probably provided the germ for Chris's fixation on the three-date rule. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 23:18, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh god....
Anyway he's aiming a little high isn't he?
[[User:Dkd|Dkd]] 23:38, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
*Only if you mean him not accepting anyone: over age 28, overweight, mature, or of any ethnicity other than white. --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 23:41, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
*I just noticed the "blacks need not apply part
:* Well of course. Don't you know that being racist towards black people is personal trait that women find attractive? :P This is classic Chris- doing at least one major thing that causes him to fail without him realizing it. --[[User:Spoonman|Spoonman]] 01:48, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
*"''People say my face is my best feature.''" I don't know what to think. Either Chris isn't aware that acne isn't attractive, or he thinks people won't notice. So yeah, Chris is aiming a little high.
** Well, his face kind of ''is'' his best feature, his [[Obesity|other]] [[Duck|features]] are, in fact, that bad. --[[User:DStecks|DStecks]] 21:29, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
[[User:Dkd|Dkd]] 23:45, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:*Well... at least he's saying 21 instead of 18. That's almost like progress. Almost.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 23:48, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
** I have to wonder if he found out about the "half your age plus seven" rule that people sometimes use to figure an appropriate age to date. Knowing Chris's tendency to take such things as written in stone rules... so yeah. [[User:Magic8Ball|Magic8Ball]] 00:57, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::*As long as It keeps him from hitting on High School girls, I'm okay with it. The facebook messages he sent to that one 17 year old still make me shudder.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:54, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
*Welp, the little voice in my head told me to sign up in order to troll Chris, so I went for it...unfortunately, I need to have credits in order to establish communication. Should I abort and let a for real person do it instead? [[User:SniperFire16|SniperFire16]]
**How much is it gonna set you back?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 03:10, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
**Considering that a ninety day pass is $40.00USD, and I believe I have seventy bucks in my checking account, I think I should abort. Any thoughts? --[[User:SniperFire16|SniperFire16]] 00:30, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
*** I created a fake account, paid for it, uploaded some bullshit and flirted with Chris. I also sent him an e-mail saying I'd upload a picture and my 'digits' as soon as I got home from school. No replies yet, but without a picture I probably won't get far. Unfortunately, I am stuck in Sydney airport with only an iPhone for Internet so I can't upload one right away. I will attempt to find a net cafe or something- this opportunity is too good to pass up. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 03:40, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

*Damn it guys, stop trying to be the next bluespike, what is needed is a field agent to go on a date with Chris, and try to get even more info, who knows, it might be the return of the man in the pickle suit.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 04:39, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:*I haven't seen anything that brings up bluespike-like trolling. If anything this'll could turn into another Kacey or, if we use a field agent, another Emily. Do we have any willing field agents we could call upon? --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 04:55, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:*I'm not trying to be anyone. I wanted to rattle some cages. I guess I should abort my mission, huh?--[[User:SniperFire16|SniperFire16]] 00:30, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
** I live in Australia and I have a pickle, or I totally would. This is the best I can do. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 04:50, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::*I don't suppose this fake account is "luv2jax", the girl who wants a 26-30 year old, hates smoking, and can't seem to get enough shopping or sex? The same girl who thinks "a monkey on roller skates" would be ''hilarious''? She seems to be designed for Chris. Regardless, please nobody interfere if it looks like he gets a genuine response. I think that would have a lot more comedic potential. His profile is close enough to non-retarded that it just might get the attention of a racist woman with very low standards. There's got to be one at least one of those in Virginia. --[[User:Homeless prophet|Homeless prophet]] 22:15, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:::*Er, forget that guess. I filtered for ages 21-28 and didn't see the obvious one. --[[User:Homeless prophet|Homeless prophet]] 03:14, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
::::*I had exactly the same thought as you. I honestly think he'll be more attracted to the other 'chick' that I'm a little disheartened, but 'eh. I am convinced the other is a fake too, so much so that I sent her a message along the lines of 'ohai so i herd you zap to the extreme?'. No reply yet, but if I was that person I'd be reluctant to blow my cover after that much work. The eventual plan with this persona is to reveal she's actually 12 years old to see how Chris responds to loli. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 04:26, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
:::* For what it's worth, "luv2jax" is the screenname of a user on Xtube. Don't know if it's a coincidence or not. However, I think I saw her picture at [[/cwc/]] so I think it's probably a troll too.

I too tried to troll chris but I underestimated his autism. I had a backup plan, though. We might see a surprise this saturday at chris' house. --[[User:One With The Lulz|One With The Lulz]] 02:25, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
* Did you get a reply at all? All I got was deafening silence, followed by a ban (despite five emails and a flirt). Any idea what might of happened, and did your account get banned too? [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 03:56, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
== So should we do this for his other dating profiles too? ==

I mean, I'm looking at his OkCupid Profile right now. I'm pretty sure it's several years old, but even back then he still checked himself off as looking for casual sex.

Not that he'll ever get any.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 03:15, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:Now that I think about it, probably the best way to do it would be to have one page titled "Dating sites" where we mirror his various awful dating profiles of fail.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 03:17, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

*No, I think each individual one should. Redundant but these are primary sources and it's easier to cite an individual profile. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:57, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I once listed a number under [[Dating]]. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 05:05, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

== Religion: None ==

That's unusual. I've said that Chris isn't a "Christian" in any real way before, but I know he self-identifies as one pretty strongly. It's really weird for him to list himself as "None, Christian". I guess it's possible he finally realized that openly Christian women typically aren't seeking casual sex, so this way he shows up on searches for people without religion, but its' still not very Chris-like at all.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:00, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

•I noticed that as well. I didn't have any clue why he would do such a thing given his strong Christian identity, but the idea that he wants to show up on the searches of Godless Heathen Babes looking for sexy sweets rings true to me. The Fuck Quest overrides all other concerns, after all. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 04:07, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

* There are 3 possible explanations. 1) He's a dumbass 2) He i s tired of being called upon, every time he does something that goes against the bible, so he now has an excuse of " nah i don't follow the bible directly" and still say " the homos are going to hell because the bible says so". 3)He doesn't want to be with a woman that's too much into religion anymore, to not get the "abstinence" excuse to not have hankey pankey. Either way, it's because Chris had enough of religion for a while, since it's not helping him right now.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 04:26, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

:*There's no way of knowing until Chris explains it himself, and the best way to do that is to put a huge ad on the CWCipedia accusing Chris of abandoning God and selling his soul to the devil.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:45, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

:*When you fill out the profile, there's a drop-down menu of various religion choices, plus an open field to fill in whatever you want if your choice isn't in the menu. Chris picked "None" from the drop-down menu because Methodist isn't one of the options offered, then typed Christian/Methodist in the open field. If he'd left the drop-down alone, it probably wouldn't have displayed anything. So he hasn't abandoned his faith or anything, he just fucked up filling out a web form. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 04:47, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::*Diaken's explination makes the most sense. Which is kind of a shame because it's also the most boring. I don't think my initial "wants to show up on searches for atheist" guess is too far off though.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:55, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

:*Chris hardly even knows what Atheism is, and from what we gather he has as much of an irrational hatred of Atheists as he does with Homosexuals and the like. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 19:57, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh it's elementary, Watson. He's of no religion now (fuck abstinency!), but he's still Christian... Weston Chandler! --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 15:10, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

*YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH! --[[User:DStecks|DStecks]] 21:31, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

== Earlier ad ==

Oldfags may recall Chris had an add through here before, which may have been documented somewhere on the ED page if you dig. I doubt anyone archived it though, and I do recall it was legit though it was eventually hacked to make it seem like Chris was gay and how his favorite food was pickles, etc. This should be referenced somewhere though. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:58, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
*Yeah, here's where the ad used to be: http://charlottesville.selectalternatives.com/gyrobase/Personals/Profile?person=oid%3A239898 [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 16:00, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

== Gone? ==

As of a few minutes ago both Chris' and Sandy's pages appear to be gone. I'm gunna make a guess here and say that Chris finally fucking checked his email and made the connection between the 12 year old girl calling him and the adults only ad with an 18 year old in it. I would guess that Snorlax flew into a rage and got him to take down the page, while reporting Sandy's. That or I'm retarded and they're still up. I'm at work so I only have my iPhone ATM, can anyone confirm? [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:02, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

:Well the links at the bottom of the page don't work. That's as good an indicator as any.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:25, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, it's gone. --[[User:One With The Lulz|One With The Lulz]] 02:32, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:Any word on whether the deletion was done by Chris himself or the site mods? [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 10:28, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:I think it could be the mods, my theory is that it has to do with the no blacks thing.--[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 22:26, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

File talk:Personalprofile.jpg

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I clicked on the newest thing on my watch list and this thing came up.

WHAT DA FUCK D:

Anyway on topic. He looks fucking awful, he looks like a dang dirty homo and look at those spots goddamn.
[[User:Dkd|Dkd]] 23:35, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
*Well... at least I now know where Alec got his current look of Ian. Anyway, yeah, he look horrible there, especially with the raging acne.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 23:37, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
This pic clearly shows that even though he's 28 years old, he looks like he's 45 years old, and with a bit of questioning, any woman will find out that he has the mind of a 6-year-old. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 23:47, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:*Well said. I think he would have had better luck if he used a pic that made him look like he did in Rollin' and Trollin'; at least he'd look less gay. --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 00:25, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
It looks as if Ash Ketchum and James Hetfield had a bastard child. --[[User:MaxTehManyula|MaxTehManyula]] 03:00, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::You know, among all the fucked up things about that image, I can't stop staring at his wrists. They're so thin. I mean, my wrists are pretty thin too, but I'm just thin in general. How does a guy with as much weight as Chris get little tiny arms like that?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 03:07, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:::By never using them to do anything more strenuous than jerking off. Lot of sedentary fat dudes end up with the skinny little T-rex arms. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 03:10, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::::This screams "Blue Oyster Bar" to me. (If anyone saw Police Academy 1-4, you'll get the Blue Oyster Bar thing.)--[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 03:42, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Talk:CWCipedia

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Talk:CWCki

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== To Do ==
*History of CWCki (starting with the original)
*Creation of CWCki and its relevance

== Does he know about this wiki? ==

Simple question: does he know that there is a whole Wiki about his antics? - TheRapingDog
*He's been told by white knights but apparently he doesn't know. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:47, 15 June 2009 (CEST)
** Guess when he heard "CWCki" he assumed that they were talking about his Cwcipedia. - Aldrasio
* The Wallflower just now told him about it. --[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 09:42, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

==Old CWCki==
Good Lord, someone went to the trouble of vandalizing it despite the fact it's several months old and no one uses it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:45, 14 October 2009 (CEST)
*who cares, all the useful information has been moved over here anyway. since the wiki software it runs on wasn't meant to deal with vandalism, i'll just delete it. i have an archive of it anyway, i think. --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 10:12, 14 October 2009 (CEST)
:*Yeah, at first I was like save it for old time sakes but the old CWCki has outlived its purpose and not to mention it's not worth keeping it around with vandalism and shit. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 10:14, 14 October 2009 (CEST)

== Forum? ==

*Hey guys, do you think that we need a Forum for our little Wiki?--[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 04:09, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
**Cool idea but /cwc/ already do it better, why bother? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 04:13, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
***Good point.--[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 04:51, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

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