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2017
2017-04-14T01:10:51Z
<p>Ujirat: </p>
<hr />
<div>{{Ongoing}}<br />
'''2017''' is the ninth year of organized trolling. It will also mark the tenth anniversary of [[Chris]]' discovery by 4chan and the creation of the original [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] article.<br />
<br />
President [[Donald Trump]] took office on 20 January. Alongside Chris' ongoing [[Financhu Crisis]], 2017 may likely result in one of the most interesting years in Christory.<br />
<br />
==January==<br />
{{main|January 2017}}<br />
[[File:Cwc 2017-1.png|thumb|Chris in January.]]<br />
<br />
[[Pmurt]] was sworn in as the 45th President of the United States, over Chris's objections. Chris continued complaining about him on [[The United States of America has NO President or Vice President, Whatsoever|YouTube]], [[January 2017 Facebook Posts#USA has no president or vice president|Facebook]] and [[2017 tweets#January|Twitter]].<br />
<br />
The [[Tomgirl]] saga continued, now in its sixth year and with no end in sight. Chris [[January 2017 Facebook Posts#Barred from donating blood|tried to donate blood]] but was told that he couldn't because he is transgender. A Breitbart News editor, Milo Yiannopoulos, briefly featured a photo of Chris, from his 2014 [[OKCupid]] profile, [[Chris in the media#Milo Yiannopoulos|during a lecture]]. Chris's views on [[homos]] continued to evolve, as evidence by an [[January 2017 Facebook Posts#Open letter to Barron Trump|open letter to President Trump's son]], in which Chris commented about losing his homophobia while urging Barron not to become a "[[Chris and hypocrisy|Super Stereotypical, Spiteful and Egotistical Male]]" like the elder Trump.<br />
<br />
==February==<br />
{{Main|February 2017}}<br />
[[File:Love is love 2017 1.jpg|thumb|Chris, in February. Pictured at top left, in the white jacket.]]<br />
<br />
Chris was haunted by feelings of nostalgia for his past relationships with the [[Gal-Pals]] from high school, [[Megan Schroeder]] and his [[Bob|late father]]. He also [[A browsing around an ol' playground|revisited an old playground from his childhood]].<br />
<br />
However, Chris continued to maintain an active social life. He saw The Lego Batman Movie with a friend and attended events at the [[University of Virginia]].<br />
<br />
Chris mentioned the world of [[CWCville]] again for the first time in years in the form of a text update; as a reaction to President Trump's policies, he declared CWCville to be a sanctuary city. He also revealed that several changes had occurred in his imaginary town since the last update. Namely, he had stepped down as mayor and [[Allison Amber]] had taken his place. <br />
<br />
There were also bizarre new insights into his personal life. He theorized that he had a fetish for [[Sailor Moon]] music, posted that he was used to skunk odor (and compared it to perfume and cologne) and liked a [[Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis]] video purporting to transfer fat from his belly to his butt as part of a D.I.Y. gender transition treatment.<br />
<br />
==March==<br />
{{Main|March 2017}}<br />
<br />
Chris began March by listing [[stamps]] from his late father's collection on eBay. He repeatedly lied throughout the month that the money would go to [[Financhu Crisis|bills and debtor payments]] - he had actually wasted the profit on toys and video games. Within a week, he had obliterated his profit and was in the red, leading him to beg on Facebook for more sales. White knights quickly bailed him out, raising $41.50 in a single day for him.<br />
<br />
He briefly mentioned the world of [[CWCville]] again, as part of a [[business]] plan to advertise his stamp sales. On St. Patrick's Day, he posted a drawing of [[Son-Chu]], leading to speculation about his reasons. A few days later, he set the record straight on his artistic inspiration for Son-Chu after reading the [[CWCki]]'s article on it, posting a screenshot from the article onto his Facebook, in addition to two prototype designs of Son-Chu. A week later, on 27 March, he revealed a silhouette photo of a Son-Chu figure, as well as a picture of his [[Skylanders avatar]] and declared that those would be featured as prizes for a raffle to be held until [[Honor roll|31 April]]. It led to another boost in sales, earning him $69.50 in revenue over the next five days.<br />
<br />
Chris rediscovered Twitter, clocking in at 68 tweets throughout the month. His messages were generally directed to voice actresses from [[My Little Pony]] and DoopieDoOver (an animator and voice actress for the Planet Dolan YouTube series), and he also responded to a couple of trolls who had questioned his lesbian soul and asked his audience for opinions on a good 3D-scanning app for his phone.. Socially awkward as ever, his messages included:<br />
<br />
*a rant at Tara Strong and her friend about his half-brother [[Cole Smithey]]<br />
*shitposting by discussing his pooping habit with Doopie<br />
*asking a brony convention, based in California, for gas money to drive there from Virginia<br />
*saying he was hypnotized by a gif of a furry<br />
*hitting on Doopie by quoting a line from his "I'm Done Adulting" My Little Pony T-shirt.<br />
<br />
==April==<br />
{{Main|April 2017}}<br />
<br />
As of April 12, Chris is one year into the Financhu Crisis, against which the Tomgirl saga will eventually pale in sheer longevity if Chris continues spiraling into debt at his current rate.<br />
<br />
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Ujirat
https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Please,_Donate&diff=204893
Please, Donate
2017-02-24T12:43:39Z
<p>Ujirat: </p>
<hr />
<div>'''Please, Donate''' is a video uploaded by Chris on 12 [[April 2016]]. Chris begs for donations in exchange for gifts.<br />
<br />
This video demarcates the official beginning of the Financhu Crisis, being the first video created for the sole purpose of e-begging, and as such will likely become a significant Christorical milestone as CWC's financial woes drag on towards the bitter end.<br />
<br />
==Video==<br />
<center><br />
{{Infobox/video<br />
| name = Please, Donate<br />
| video = {{#ev:youtube|-TPOcKUBBdM}}<br />
| stardate = 12 [[April 2016]]<br />
| subject = {{(Handouts)|text}}, {{Comics|text}}<br />
| style = {{Reason|text}}<br />
| saga = {{Financhu Crisis}} [[Financhu Crisis]]<br />
| shirt = {{TurquoiseTankTop|text}}<br />
| previous = [[Happy Birthday, Martin.]]<br />
| next = [[Announcement 04/16/2016]]<br />
}}<br />
</center><br />
<br />
'''Description'''<br />
{{Quotebox|Please, donate and help me and my family. I would be more than grateful for each donation that comes in. And Y'all will receive gifts on the higher levels.<br />
<br />
I stand corrected; plain donations are not tax deductible, and I am not one of such there. I am sorry about that; my mistake.<br />
<br />
<nowiki>https://www.etsy.com/listing/246499002/donate-towards-new-comic-book-pages-or?ref=shop_home_active_1<br />
</nowiki><br />
<br />
This is the Official YouTube channel of the one and only creator and author of the Sonichu and Rosechu series, Christine Weston Chandler (AKA Christian, Christopher, Chris Chan, Ricardo); me. Links to my personal Facebook and Twitter pages, as well as my stores of Sonichu and Rosechu, and self, merchandise are available for purchase. Among which, more items are to come in the future, so stay tuned for the updates when I make them personally.}}<br />
<br />
==Transcript==<br />
[''[[sigh]]''] So anyway, uh, got a bit of situation here going on here at home, but y'all do know that, uh, I'm still try--I'm still recovering from all the past... hatred and abuse I had to put up with. [''Chris picks up the remote and presses a button''] Uh, okay, that's a bit better, distracting, I muted the television, but anyway, so... [''sigh''] Yeah, got some financial problems coming up, ehhh, about right now, so, [''takes a breath''] mmm, I mean, y'all don't have to buy anything, uh, donations of b--with every person donating at least a dollar, you can help--y'all can help, uh, me and my mother find uh, peace at home and be able to help, uh, take care of our expenses and everything. <br />
<br />
And uh, I'm still working on--I'm still getting back into the groove of putting everything together, working on a daily basis and definitely working on putting myself on a day schedule. [''pauses''] And there's that damn [[autism|autistic]] [[Slow-in-the-minds|pause]] in my head. I think that's the autism, essentially. You get, you feel the anxiety and the damn autism reacts to it like it's a piece of change and it's not routine or something. [''sigh''] Anyhow, since I pretty much am reaching out to everybody for a donations, I just wanna remind everybody that uh, the donations under $10, uh, pretty much the only thing I can offer from there is uh, your name in the back of the--back of the book or on the page of the book, but essentially aside from that, um, just wanted to remind everybody of the donations' levels. Hmm... yeah, so $10 for one full written, drawn and... wait a minute, um, oh right. Ahh, shoot. Uh, let me just start from the beginning here. <br />
<br />
As a devoted fan to the Sonichu and Rosechu comic--comic book series, I'm certain you do want to see more pages, since I ended up with creator's--creator's block, and forced into hiatus--in 2007, still working on building the routine to get myself back on drawing on a daily basis, and createning on--creating on a daily basis and everything. Yeah, still doing that. Uhh, working on the trying to make a schedule and getting on that routine and I have my own typical... uhh, unexpected and incoming stresses and life problems. Mmm, but anyway if you don't feel like, uhh, buying a big thing you can donate as little as one dollar.<br />
<br />
Eh, but uh, here are the donation levels once again, where you'd give free--where you would get a gift I would personally put together for you. [''pause''] Yeah, but essentially [''pauses again'']<br />
<br />
Yeah... Anyway, ah, let's see: Complete past new pages be uploaded soon as they are... Soon after they are printed, if you<br />
know, I've been... Psht, yeah. Still trying to get back in the routine and everything.<br />
<br />
Um, [''mumbles to himself''] hm... Okay, so yeah, For each person who donates through my shop on Etsy, ah, 10 dol--10 dollars and above, I'll send a single character drawing as a sign of gratitude. Request for drawing--for the contents are welcome as long as its not uh, questionable material. And I can't draw your favorite characters regardless about it copyright or not [He means to say "regardless of whether it's copyrighted or not" but just messed it up.]<br />
<br />
Um, anyway, if no request is made, I'll just make a fresh drawing of Sonichu and I'll limit one drawing per person per... Day. And if you would like the char--like a colored under 10 dollars... That's the wind up minimum of the 20 dollar level... Yeah, that's when it could be colored. And uh... Alright, at the 50 dollars level, you get the choice of either a Sonichu medallion, or a personal variant, or a custom medallion, whatever you like there. Or an autographed photo, as well as a printed copy of uh, one of the books, your choice.<br />
<br />
[''short sigh'']Boy, that thing last month, that thing last December with little bit of really, still throwin' me--still throws me back. Ah, but anyway, 100 dollars gets you your choice of any one of these--Any one of the figures... Ah, yeah, just pretty much any one of the figures, your choice, uh that's uh... Allow up to certain time for me to acquire the parts and make them. [''short sigh''] I'm still getting in there, so there maybe time to--so there are likely delays, so I do apologise for that, thereby who's been delayed, I'm still working and I'm get--trying to get back to speed. Y'all will get your items, very soon I promise. Ah [''mumbles'']... Oh! So yeah, for a 100 dollars you get your choice of a figure, as well as a print--as well as a... Your choice of one of the books. As well as a--you may... Request a drawing as well.<br />
<br />
Hm, the 500 dollar level gets you a medallion, a figure... Well, traditionally it would be one figure and ah... One of the three-piece sets, but 'tell you what, uh- start uh--from here on, I'll update the listing later. You could do like, up to four figures of your choice. Four figures of your choice, at the 500 dollar level. [''mumbles''] You may also request an autographed photo and uh, a copy of one of my books. [''mumbles''] As well as a--you may also request a drawing. Again, these are optional, [It seems Chris is making another attempt to stay lazy, saying that the previous tier donation rewards are 'optional'] so, you don't have to request them. And if you don't want any gifts, you can just let m--you can just let me know, but definitely delighted in helping and making these things for everybody... Very much. Anyway, [sigh] don't wanna keep losing my place.[''mumbles''] Okay... Okay, yeah, so, thousn'--the 1000 dollar level. Uh, making the change to that might be so... Uh, but currently as listed here you get the entire Wave 1 set of Sonichu, Rosechu, Blake, Wild, Bubbles, Angelica, Punchy, and Magi-Chan, as well as me and the three-piece set, a Sonichu medallion, or custom therein. And you may request the autographed photo, the book, and a drawing.... Yeah. But anyway, uh, yeah, coupon codes definitely not valid for the donations and every do- and every donation is indeed- is indeed a tax deduction right off, y'all can make for yourselves, if applicable. I mean uh, it varies from person to person, I'm sure. But anyway [''sigh''] I'm just [''sigh''] single person trying to help provide for this family and uh, I can only do so much uh, getting money and whatnot, so your donations are a real great help, so please, donate as much as you can. Even if its only 1 dollar per person, every little bit helps. If you donate big, that will be really greatly appreciated... Very much. [''sigh''] all for the peace of mind, so I can get back into drawing and have more--and be able to be--feeling so much better about life and everything, in addition to me feeling better about myself even though I am an--been having more positive outlook on like--[[True and Loyal Fanbase#Chris's contempt for his fans|AND I'M NOT READING ANY OF THOSE COMMENTS EITHER, SO YOU MAY AS WELL STOP RIGHT THERE]] [Chris is addressing the live stream audiences]. Anyhow [''exhales''] so, please, go to the listing below--go the uh, Etsy listing of donations- the donation page that will be listed below this video and... Donate as much as you can... Thank you. Mmm. Y'all have a good, safe day.<br />
<br />
Ungh. ''Wrong'' button!<br />
<br />
{{succession|label=[[List of videos|Chris's videos]]|prevlink=[[Happy Birthday, Martin.]]|nextlink=[[Announcement 04/16/2016]]}}<br />
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[[Category: Chris-chan videos, 2016]]<br />
[[Category: Videos Christian uploaded to YouTube]]</div>
Ujirat
https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Please,_Donate&diff=204892
Please, Donate
2017-02-24T11:23:53Z
<p>Ujirat: </p>
<hr />
<div>'''Please, Donate''' is a video uploaded by Chris on 12 [[April 2016]]. Chris begs for donations in exchange for gifts.<br />
<br />
This video is arguably the official beginning of the Financhu Crisis, being the first video created for the sole purpose of e-begging, and as such will likely become a Christorical milestone as CWC's financial woes drag on.<br />
<br />
==Video==<br />
<center><br />
{{Infobox/video<br />
| name = Please, Donate<br />
| video = {{#ev:youtube|-TPOcKUBBdM}}<br />
| stardate = 12 [[April 2016]]<br />
| subject = {{(Handouts)|text}}, {{Comics|text}}<br />
| style = {{Reason|text}}<br />
| saga = {{Financhu Crisis}} [[Financhu Crisis]]<br />
| shirt = {{TurquoiseTankTop|text}}<br />
| previous = [[Happy Birthday, Martin.]]<br />
| next = [[Announcement 04/16/2016]]<br />
}}<br />
</center><br />
<br />
'''Description'''<br />
{{Quotebox|Please, donate and help me and my family. I would be more than grateful for each donation that comes in. And Y'all will receive gifts on the higher levels.<br />
<br />
I stand corrected; plain donations are not tax deductible, and I am not one of such there. I am sorry about that; my mistake.<br />
<br />
<nowiki>https://www.etsy.com/listing/246499002/donate-towards-new-comic-book-pages-or?ref=shop_home_active_1<br />
</nowiki><br />
<br />
This is the Official YouTube channel of the one and only creator and author of the Sonichu and Rosechu series, Christine Weston Chandler (AKA Christian, Christopher, Chris Chan, Ricardo); me. Links to my personal Facebook and Twitter pages, as well as my stores of Sonichu and Rosechu, and self, merchandise are available for purchase. Among which, more items are to come in the future, so stay tuned for the updates when I make them personally.}}<br />
<br />
==Transcript==<br />
[''[[sigh]]''] So anyway, uh, got a bit of situation here going on here at home, but y'all do know that, uh, I'm still try--I'm still recovering from all the past... hatred and abuse I had to put up with. [''Chris picks up the remote and presses a button''] Uh, okay, that's a bit better, distracting, I muted the television, but anyway, so... [''sigh''] Yeah, got some financial problems coming up, ehhh, about right now, so, [''takes a breath''] mmm, I mean, y'all don't have to buy anything, uh, donations of b--with every person donating at least a dollar, you can help--y'all can help, uh, me and my mother find uh, peace at home and be able to help, uh, take care of our expenses and everything. <br />
<br />
And uh, I'm still working on--I'm still getting back into the groove of putting everything together, working on a daily basis and definitely working on putting myself on a day schedule. [''pauses''] And there's that damn [[autism|autistic]] [[Slow-in-the-minds|pause]] in my head. I think that's the autism, essentially. You get, you feel the anxiety and the damn autism reacts to it like it's a piece of change and it's not routine or something. [''sigh''] Anyhow, since I pretty much am reaching out to everybody for a donations, I just wanna remind everybody that uh, the donations under $10, uh, pretty much the only thing I can offer from there is uh, your name in the back of the--back of the book or on the page of the book, but essentially aside from that, um, just wanted to remind everybody of the donations' levels. Hmm... yeah, so $10 for one full written, drawn and... wait a minute, um, oh right. Ahh, shoot. Uh, let me just start from the beginning here. <br />
<br />
As a devoted fan to the Sonichu and Rosechu comic--comic book series, I'm certain you do want to see more pages, since I ended up with creator's--creator's block, and forced into hiatus--in 2007, still working on building the routine to get myself back on drawing on a daily basis, and createning on--creating on a daily basis and everything. Yeah, still doing that. Uhh, working on the trying to make a schedule and getting on that routine and I have my own typical... uhh, unexpected and incoming stresses and life problems. Mmm, but anyway if you don't feel like, uhh, buying a big thing you can donate as little as one dollar.<br />
<br />
Eh, but uh, here are the donation levels once again, where you'd give free--where you would get a gift I would personally put together for you. [''pause''] Yeah, but essentially [''pauses again'']<br />
<br />
Yeah... Anyway, ah, let's see: Complete past new pages be uploaded soon as they are... Soon after they are printed, if you<br />
know, I've been... Psht, yeah. Still trying to get back in the routine and everything.<br />
<br />
Um, [''mumbles to himself''] hm... Okay, so yeah, For each person who donates through my shop on Etsy, ah, 10 dol--10 dollars and above, I'll send a single character drawing as a sign of gratitude. Request for drawing--for the contents are welcome as long as its not uh, questionable material. And I can't draw your favorite characters regardless about it copyright or not [He means to say "regardless of whether it's copyrighted or not" but just messed it up.]<br />
<br />
Um, anyway, if no request is made, I'll just make a fresh drawing of Sonichu and I'll limit one drawing per person per... Day. And if you would like the char--like a colored under 10 dollars... That's the wind up minimum of the 20 dollar level... Yeah, that's when it could be colored. And uh... Alright, at the 50 dollars level, you get the choice of either a Sonichu medallion, or a personal variant, or a custom medallion, whatever you like there. Or an autographed photo, as well as a printed copy of uh, one of the books, your choice.<br />
<br />
[''short sigh'']Boy, that thing last month, that thing last December with little bit of really, still throwin' me--still throws me back. Ah, but anyway, 100 dollars gets you your choice of any one of these--Any one of the figures... Ah, yeah, just pretty much any one of the figures, your choice, uh that's uh... Allow up to certain time for me to acquire the parts and make them. [''short sigh''] I'm still getting in there, so there maybe time to--so there are likely delays, so I do apologise for that, thereby who's been delayed, I'm still working and I'm get--trying to get back to speed. Y'all will get your items, very soon I promise. Ah [''mumbles'']... Oh! So yeah, for a 100 dollars you get your choice of a figure, as well as a print--as well as a... Your choice of one of the books. As well as a--you may... Request a drawing as well.<br />
<br />
Hm, the 500 dollar level gets you a medallion, a figure... Well, traditionally it would be one figure and ah... One of the three-piece sets, but 'tell you what, uh- start uh--from here on, I'll update the listing later. You could do like, up to four figures of your choice. Four figures of your choice, at the 500 dollar level. [''mumbles''] You may also request an autographed photo and uh, a copy of one of my books. [''mumbles''] As well as a--you may also request a drawing. Again, these are optional, [It seems Chris is making another attempt to stay lazy, saying that the previous tier donation rewards are 'optional'] so, you don't have to request them. And if you don't want any gifts, you can just let m--you can just let me know, but definitely delighted in helping and making these things for everybody... Very much. Anyway, [sigh] don't wanna keep losing my place.[''mumbles''] Okay... Okay, yeah, so, thousn'--the 1000 dollar level. Uh, making the change to that might be so... Uh, but currently as listed here you get the entire Wave 1 set of Sonichu, Rosechu, Blake, Wild, Bubbles, Angelica, Punchy, and Magi-Chan, as well as me and the three-piece set, a Sonichu medallion, or custom therein. And you may request the autographed photo, the book, and a drawing.... Yeah. But anyway, uh, yeah, coupon codes definitely not valid for the donations and every do- and every donation is indeed- is indeed a tax deduction right off, y'all can make for yourselves, if applicable. I mean uh, it varies from person to person, I'm sure. But anyway [''sigh''] I'm just [''sigh''] single person trying to help provide for this family and uh, I can only do so much uh, getting money and whatnot, so your donations are a real great help, so please, donate as much as you can. Even if its only 1 dollar per person, every little bit helps. If you donate big, that will be really greatly appreciated... Very much. [''sigh''] all for the peace of mind, so I can get back into drawing and have more--and be able to be--feeling so much better about life and everything, in addition to me feeling better about myself even though I am an--been having more positive outlook on like--[[True and Loyal Fanbase#Chris's contempt for his fans|AND I'M NOT READING ANY OF THOSE COMMENTS EITHER, SO YOU MAY AS WELL STOP RIGHT THERE]] [Chris is addressing the live stream audiences]. Anyhow [''exhales''] so, please, go to the listing below--go the uh, Etsy listing of donations- the donation page that will be listed below this video and... Donate as much as you can... Thank you. Mmm. Y'all have a good, safe day.<br />
<br />
Ungh. ''Wrong'' button!<br />
<br />
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[[Category: Chris-chan videos, 2016]]<br />
[[Category: Videos Christian uploaded to YouTube]]</div>
Ujirat
https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=2016&diff=204725
2016
2017-02-12T23:39:44Z
<p>Ujirat: </p>
<hr />
<div>{{quote|I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother.|[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts|Chris, in August.]]<br />
}}<br />
{{quote|Too bad [Hitler] died|[[September 2016 Facebook posts#Hitler and the Autobots|Chris, in September.]]<br />
}} <br />
{{quote|Someone, Anyone, PLEASE, take a sniper rifle and kill Trump; shoot him in the head like the impulsive, non-thinking, uncaring Zombie that he is.|[[November 2016 Facebook posts#Chris wants Trump assassinated|Chris]], in November.<br />
}} <br />
{{Infobox/video<br />
| name = A CWCville 2016 Year in Review<br />
| video = {{#ev:youtube|v=BVDYDeVWDLQ}}<br />
| stardate = 25 December 2016<br />
| maker = TheCWCvilleLibrary<br />
| subject = {{(Handouts)|text}}, {{Cwcville Shopping|[[Etsy]]}}, {{Music|text}} {{Video games|text}}, {{Sex|text}}, {{Politics|text}}, {{Violence|text}}<br />
| style = {{Tragedy|text}}, {{Reason|text}}, {{Crazy|text}}, {{Rage|text}}<br />
| Saga = {{Tomgirl|text}}, {{Business|text}}, {{Financhu Crisis|text}}<br />
| shirt = {{The Happy Hag|text}}, {{TurquoiseTankTop|text}}, {{Blue and White Striped Dress|text}}, {{(Clopper)|text}}, {{Cwcbra2|Bra}}, {{WhiteTankTop|text}}, {{BigRedSweater|text}}, {{CapitalVenture|text}}, {{imdoneadulting|text}}, {{BlueTurtleneck|text}}<br />
| previous = <br />
| next = <br />
}}<br />
<br />
'''2016''' was the eighth year of organized trolling. <br />
It is a year that brought us the following things:<br />
<br />
- The further degeneration of Chris's hair. Due to a mix of neglect and his traditional lack of self respect, his [[hair|hair]] now resembles a dying, green dish rag [[Chris and health|which only emboldens his rapidly-receding skullet.]]<br />
<br />
- Fought with, then eventually made up with...and then fought with again, [[CWC's Adult Chronicles|Jeff O.]] on the issue of selling Sonichu merchandise. <br />
<br />
- Chris apologizing to males with Asperger's.<br />
<br />
- Chris began and quickly ended his GameStop embargo because it accomplished nothing. <br />
<br />
- Chris began sending death threats once again, this time to [[Donald Trump]]<br />
<br />
- Mind-numbing amounts of e-begging<br />
<br />
- An entire year consumed by arguably the most unproductive saga in Christory<br />
<br />
==January==<br />
{{main|January 2016}}<br />
[[File:0116.png|thumb|Chris in January]]<br />
Chris [[Lesbian Sleepover Party Announcement.|advertised a lesbian sleepover]] and [[CatKnight Interview|was interviewed]].<br />
<br />
==February==<br />
{{main|February 2016}}<br />
[[File:CWC34.png|thumb|left|Chris in February]]<br />
Chris released [[Apologies for offending people|another apology]] video and [[Birthday|turned 34]]. A [[Chris's Specimen Sample|semen donor video]] was leaked.<br />
[[File:Cwcmar16.PNG|thumb|Chris in March]]<br />
<br />
==March==<br />
{{main|March 2016}}<br />
Chris bought a [[PlayStation 4]] and claimed it was a gift from a fan. [[Barb]] is ordered to pay a credit card bill of $4,700.<br />
[[File:Cwcap16.PNG|thumb|250px|Chris in April 2016.]]<br />
<br />
==April==<br />
{{main|April 2016}}<br />
Chris released [[My Breast Massage Routine 18+]] and [[Please, Donate|begged for donors]]. He also started [[Sonichu Entertainment of America]] and quickly forget about.<br />
[[File:Cwcmay16.PNG|thumb|250px|left|Chris in May 2016]]<br />
<br />
==May==<br />
{{main|May 2016}}<br />
Chris bought a waifu, [[IMG 3207|had sex with a doll on YouTube]] and filed to change his name to Christine.<br />
<br />
==June==<br />
[[File:Cwcjun16.jpg|thumb|250px|Chris in June]]<br />
{{main|June 2016}}<br />
Chris begged for money, ostensibly for Barb's medication. He also tried to restart his gigolo career.<br />
<br />
==July==<br />
[[File:Christine license.jpg|thumb|250px|Chris's Woman Card in July 2016]]<br />
{{main|July 2016}}<br />
Chris [[26_December_2014|paid]] his court costs. Barb made an appearance in [[Donations Further Requested, Please|a begging video]]. Most horrifyingly, Chris got [[Un-clit 2.0|an open, bleeding wound on his groin]] and [[Chris and reality|thinks it means he started to grow a vagina as a result from watching subliminal frequency videos.]]<br />
<br />
==August==<br />
[[File:Aug16cwc.jpg|thumb|250px|left|Chris in August 2016]]<br />
{{Main|August 2016}}<br />
Chris admitted fantasizing about incest with his mother.<br />
<br />
==September ==<br />
[[File:CWC0916.PNG|thumb|left|250px|Chris in September 2016]]<br />
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{{Main|September 2016}}<br />
A court rules that Barb must pay a debt of [[Financhu Crisis|$16k]]. Chris is interviewed by a Youtube personality at [[Cville Pride]]. Chris makes an [[Something Completely Different - A few Transformers Jokes, also anti-Pmurt|anti-Donald Trump]] video, and laments the death of Adolf Hitler on Facebook.<br />
<br />
==October ==<br />
[[File:Cwc october 2016.png|thumb|250px|Chris in October 2016]]<br />
{{Main|October 2016}}<br />
Chris tries using [[Unban contracts]] on [[Gamestop]] and [[Best Buy]]. He continues to comment about his hatred of [[Pmurt|Donald Trump]], including a [[October 2016 Facebook posts#Pmurt should take parodies in jest|post]] saying that he should have taken "[[Asperchu|a parody]] [[Liquid Chris|of himself]] [[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!|in jest]]."<br />
<br />
==November==<br />
<br />
{{Main|November 2016}}<br />
[[File:Cwc1116.jpg|thumb|Chris in Nov 2016]]<br />
Chris spent nearly all of November issuing online death threads to president elect Donald Trump.<br />
<br />
==December==<br />
{{Main|December 2016}}<br />
Chris continues to demand the death of Trump, and comments on a ''Sonic Boom'' character with a suspiciously familiar appearance.<br />
<br />
[[File:Chris tired 12-2016.jpeg|thumb|left|250px|Chris in Dec. 2016]]<br />
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== Sources ==<br />
<references/> <br />
{{Timeline}} [[Category:Chronology]]</div>
Ujirat
https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=2016&diff=204724
2016
2017-02-12T23:37:55Z
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<div>{{quote|I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother.|[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts|Chris, in August.]]<br />
}}<br />
{{quote|Too bad [Hitler] died|[[September 2016 Facebook posts#Hitler and the Autobots|Chris, in September.]]<br />
}} <br />
{{quote|Someone, Anyone, PLEASE, take a sniper rifle and kill Trump; shoot him in the head like the impulsive, non-thinking, uncaring Zombie that he is.|[[November 2016 Facebook posts#Chris wants Trump assassinated|Chris]], in November.<br />
}} <br />
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'''2016''' was the eighth year of organized trolling. <br />
It is a year that brought us the following things:<br />
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- The further degeneration of Chris's hair. Due to a mix of neglect and his traditional lack of self respect, his [[hair|hair]] now resembles a dying, green dish rag [[Chris and health|which only emboldens his rapidly-receding skullet.]]<br />
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- Fought with, then eventually made up with...and then fought with again, [[CWC's Adult Chronicles|Jeff O.]] on the issue of selling Sonichu merchandise. <br />
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- Chris apologizing to males with Asperger's.<br />
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- Chris began and quickly ended his GameStop embargo because it accomplished nothing. <br />
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- Chris began sending death threats once again, this time to [[Donald Trump]]<br />
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- Mind-numbing amounts of e-begging<br />
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- Overall, arguably the most unproductive year in Christory, as even the sparse updates during the hiatus following Bob's death were at least informative updates from Chris<br />
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==January==<br />
{{main|January 2016}}<br />
[[File:0116.png|thumb|Chris in January]]<br />
Chris [[Lesbian Sleepover Party Announcement.|advertised a lesbian sleepover]] and [[CatKnight Interview|was interviewed]].<br />
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==February==<br />
{{main|February 2016}}<br />
[[File:CWC34.png|thumb|left|Chris in February]]<br />
Chris released [[Apologies for offending people|another apology]] video and [[Birthday|turned 34]]. A [[Chris's Specimen Sample|semen donor video]] was leaked.<br />
[[File:Cwcmar16.PNG|thumb|Chris in March]]<br />
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==March==<br />
{{main|March 2016}}<br />
Chris bought a [[PlayStation 4]] and claimed it was a gift from a fan. [[Barb]] is ordered to pay a credit card bill of $4,700.<br />
[[File:Cwcap16.PNG|thumb|250px|Chris in April 2016.]]<br />
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==April==<br />
{{main|April 2016}}<br />
Chris released [[My Breast Massage Routine 18+]] and [[Please, Donate|begged for donors]]. He also started [[Sonichu Entertainment of America]] and quickly forget about.<br />
[[File:Cwcmay16.PNG|thumb|250px|left|Chris in May 2016]]<br />
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==May==<br />
{{main|May 2016}}<br />
Chris bought a waifu, [[IMG 3207|had sex with a doll on YouTube]] and filed to change his name to Christine.<br />
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==June==<br />
[[File:Cwcjun16.jpg|thumb|250px|Chris in June]]<br />
{{main|June 2016}}<br />
Chris begged for money, ostensibly for Barb's medication. He also tried to restart his gigolo career.<br />
<br />
==July==<br />
[[File:Christine license.jpg|thumb|250px|Chris's Woman Card in July 2016]]<br />
{{main|July 2016}}<br />
Chris [[26_December_2014|paid]] his court costs. Barb made an appearance in [[Donations Further Requested, Please|a begging video]]. Most horrifyingly, Chris got [[Un-clit 2.0|an open, bleeding wound on his groin]] and [[Chris and reality|thinks it means he started to grow a vagina as a result from watching subliminal frequency videos.]]<br />
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==August==<br />
[[File:Aug16cwc.jpg|thumb|250px|left|Chris in August 2016]]<br />
{{Main|August 2016}}<br />
Chris admitted fantasizing about incest with his mother.<br />
<br />
==September ==<br />
[[File:CWC0916.PNG|thumb|left|250px|Chris in September 2016]]<br />
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{{Main|September 2016}}<br />
A court rules that Barb must pay a debt of [[Financhu Crisis|$16k]]. Chris is interviewed by a Youtube personality at [[Cville Pride]]. Chris makes an [[Something Completely Different - A few Transformers Jokes, also anti-Pmurt|anti-Donald Trump]] video, and laments the death of Adolf Hitler on Facebook.<br />
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==October ==<br />
[[File:Cwc october 2016.png|thumb|250px|Chris in October 2016]]<br />
{{Main|October 2016}}<br />
Chris tries using [[Unban contracts]] on [[Gamestop]] and [[Best Buy]]. He continues to comment about his hatred of [[Pmurt|Donald Trump]], including a [[October 2016 Facebook posts#Pmurt should take parodies in jest|post]] saying that he should have taken "[[Asperchu|a parody]] [[Liquid Chris|of himself]] [[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!|in jest]]."<br />
<br />
==November==<br />
<br />
{{Main|November 2016}}<br />
[[File:Cwc1116.jpg|thumb|Chris in Nov 2016]]<br />
Chris spent nearly all of November issuing online death threads to president elect Donald Trump.<br />
<br />
==December==<br />
{{Main|December 2016}}<br />
Chris continues to demand the death of Trump, and comments on a ''Sonic Boom'' character with a suspiciously familiar appearance.<br />
<br />
[[File:Chris tired 12-2016.jpeg|thumb|left|250px|Chris in Dec. 2016]]<br />
<br />
== Sources ==<br />
<references/> <br />
{{Timeline}} [[Category:Chronology]]</div>
Ujirat
https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Family_Guy&diff=204719
Family Guy
2017-02-12T06:59:04Z
<p>Ujirat: </p>
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<div>[[Image:Chris&Meg.jpg|thumb|THIS IS WHAT HE ACTUALLY BELIEVES.]]<br />
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'''''Family Guy''''' is an animated sitcom that debuted in Fox in [[1999]], but was eventually cancelled in [[2002]] due to poor ratings and for initially being considered a sub-par rip-off of ''[[The Simpsons]]''. However, the show's ratings increased after [[Adult Swim]] picked up reruns in [[2003]], and the popularity that ensued led to Fox reviving the show in [[2005]], where it continues to this day. It is known for basing most of its jokes around pop-cultural references and cutaway gags, which is interesting considering [[Chris]] [[Things Chris has ripped off|rips it off]] so much in [[Sonichu (comic)|his comics]], much like the show rips off everything else. <br />
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==Influence on Chris==<br />
Chris has variously expressed fanaticism for the series and watches it regularly. It can be inferred from this that the show's frequent use of [[random-access humor|non-sequitur, referential humor]] has bolstered Chris's belief that reproducing (or at least "borrowing") themes, motifs and characters from other works makes for legitimate, original art and has influenced his muddled understanding of [[parody]].<br />
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Also significant is his [[Captain's Log, Stardate March 10th, 2009|citing of ''Family Guy'']] as material that endorses [[homos|homophobia]], having completely misinterpreted what was a not-so-subtle jab at the prejudice in an episode. As the series often deals with issues of bigotry and other social taboos in a manner which to most would constitute unsubtle, perhaps even ham-fisted, irony, the question is raised as to what other messages from the show Chris takes at face value.<br />
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The specific scene which Chris referenced depicted [[Wikipedia:Stewie Griffin|Stewie]] quoting [[Wikipedia:the Bible|the Bible]] to prove that [[Wikipedia:gay marriage|Gay marriage]] is wrong, the joke being twofold; Stewie himself is ambiguously [[Homos|gay]], making his quoting of the Bible [[Chris and hypocrisy|hypocritical]], and, as pointed out by [[Wikipedia:Brian Griffin|Brian]], he is too infantile to properly contextualize Biblical scripture, a dig at ''precisely'' the sort of [[Chris and religion|brainless Bible-thumping]] Chris exhibits. This joke obviously soared over Chris's head, and even now, Chris references that scene to prove that being gay is wrong. What's even more ridiculous is the fact that Chris seems to have not heard of any specific parts of the Bible that condemn homosexuality, despite being a supposedly devout Christian his entire life, until it was spelled out in an animated comedy series. <br />
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===In ''Sonichu''===<br />
The series is the "inspiration" for Chris's infamous ''[[Ghostbusters]]'' [[Sonichu_7#The_Family_Guy_.22Skitch.22|"skitch"]] that appeared in [[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]] and contained the one-off appearance of his character [[Sammy]], a creation that was a mix between Chris and [[Wikipedia:Peter Griffin|Peter Griffin]]. Chris had hoped that the creator of ''Family Guy'', [[Wikipedia:Seth MacFarlane|Seth MacFarlane]], could possibly use his "skitch" in a future episode, but he unfortunately didn't realize MacFarlane is quite capable of making unfunny, plagiarized, poorly drawn, boring shit on his own.<br />
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[[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]] featured the line "Insert rod 'A' into slot 'B'" as an apparent example of dirty talk; in "[[Wikipedia:Emission Impossible|Emission Impossible]]" "Insert rod support A into slot B," was an example of awful innuendo. Meanwhile, [[Bubbles Rosechu]] asks [[Blake]] what he wished for and he says "It's already come true"; this could be directly from [[Wikipedia:Sixteen Candles|''Sixteen Candles'']], but could also be from the [[parody]] of this scene in ''Family Guy''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s "[[Wikipedia:PTV (Family Guy)|PTV]]".<br />
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The "Spring Break" plotline also owes a lot to Meg and Lois's story in "[[Wikipedia:A Fish out of Water (Family Guy)|A Fish out of Water]]", including the bit where every channel is showing Spring Break, even the news channels.<br />
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The "[[homos|gay]] vaccine" storyline from [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' 10]] was partially inspired by the episode "[[Wikipedia:Family Gay|Family Gay]]", where Peter becomes gay after being injected with the gay gene.<ref>[[Kacey Call 16]]</ref><br />
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In [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]], Chris copies the line "I'm the virgin Mary; that's my story and I'm sticking to it," from "[[Wikipedia:A Very Special Family Guy Freakin' Christmas|A Very Special Family Guy Freakin' Christmas]]."<br />
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==Chris and Meg==<br />
[[Image:Meg 08-10-2009.jpg|thumb|Chris's declaration of intention regarding [[Megan Schroeder|Meg]].]]<br />
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{{Quote|Megan thanks me very much for my compliments I gave a lot of, and we hang out throughout the episode (I hope she has turned Eighteen by the time I get there, so this can be a really good story).|Chris, on what makes a story [[China|really good]].<ref>[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Family_Guy Cwcipedia page on ''Family Guy'']</ref>}}<br />
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[[Image:ChrisChanfamilyguy.jpg|thumb|Chris's welcome page as of 9 October 2009.]]<br />
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Chris has a crush on [[Meg Griffin]] (a cartoon character, for those keeping track at home). However, what Chris doesn't seem to understand is that a good portion of the show's "humor" is intended to come at the expense of Meg Griffin. She is mostly portrayed as [[obesity|fat]], unlikeable and ugly (sound familiar?) and given very few lines in episodes. Despite her portrayal, Chris has developed feelings for her, perhaps finding a kindred spirit in another person whose only use seems to be to entertain the masses by being constantly mistreated by the world at large (that or her name just reminds him of [[Megan Schroeder|someone...]]). Although she is [[pedofork|underage]], Chris has sought porn of her, going so far as to assimilate it into his drawings.<br />
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On 8 [[October 2009]], he commented on a [[YouTube]] clip from the episode "[[Wikipedia:Road to the Multiverse|Road to the Multiverse]]" depicting a hot alternate-universe Meg, lamenting that if only MacFarlane let Meg turn eighteen that CWC would "be all over her sweet pussy and breasts."<ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDy-LEpQapQ</ref><br />
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In [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], Chris inserted Meg into the comic, [[Chris and his ego|having her compliment Chris on the comic]]. In turn, Chris defends Meg's "honor" by beating up a guy who insults the two of them. He then kisses Meg, cheating on his future wife [[Lovely Weather]]. It turns out that Meg is [[Silvana Rosechu]], an evil hermaphrodite furfag, in disguise. When accused of being a [[pedofork]] (Meg is 17), Chris retorted "SHE PUSHED HERSELF ONTO ME!"<ref>[[Mailbag 37]]</ref><br />
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Chris also wrote about her in [[Mailbag 20]]:<br />
{{quote|She has a fun and sweet personality; she is very pretty; she is smart; what is there NOT to like about her? Nothing from my point of view.}}<br />
==Chris's message to Seth MacFarlane==<br />
On 5 [[June 2009]], [[The Miscreants]] special ops agent [[Bryan Bash]] hacked into Chris's YouTube account and found a message Chris sent to ''Family Guy'' creator Seth MacFarlane via his YouTube account.<br />
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{{quotebox|Hello Seth,<br />
<br />
I am a long-time Family Guy Fan. I have purchased the Blu-Ray of [[Wikipedia:Seth MacFarlane's Cavalcade of Cartoon Comedy|your Calvacade]]; I enjoyed all but the homosexual and dick jokes (I detest the [[homos]] very strongly). For your next bunch of 50 or so videos, please do more breast and vagina jokes.<br />
<br />
Also, in Family Guy, PLEASE give Megan more respect, because she [[Chris and writing|IS VERY BEATIFUL]] in my perspective, and she truly deserves MORE Positive attention and less abuse. Give her an irreversable Love Potion or something yo give her the attention that she deserves for MULTIPLE SEASONS and MULTIPLE CONSISTANT episodes.<br />
<br />
We LOVE Megan Marie Griffin.<br />
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Peace,<br />
<br />
Christian Weston Chandler, creator of Sonichu and Rosechu at http://www.cwcville.com}}<br />
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==The Chrisode==<br />
[[Image:126052012913.jpg|thumb|Leaked concept sketches made by [[Trolls|Seth MacFarlane]] himself.]]<br />
[[File:FamilyGuyChris.JPG|thumb|Chris's own sketch in a ''Family Guy''-style.]]<br />
On [[Captain's Log, Stardate December 9th, 2009|9 December 2009]] Chris said that he'd heard rumors that Seth MacFarlane was planning on including him in a future ''Family Guy'' episode. This obviously [[Pmurt|fake news]] inflated [[Chris and his Ego|Chris's ego]] to [[Giant Penis Comic|gigantic proportions]], to the point where he felt the need to pitch an idea for the plot. Below is the {{CWCipedia link|Family Guy|plot he posted}} on the [[CWCipedia]].<br />
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{{quotebox|I, Christian Weston Chandler, have described the story in a nutshell in my [[Captain's Log, Stardate December 9th, 2009|recent video]]. But to reiterate (the final story will be typed up then copied/pasted onto this page), The show opens on Megan going onto the [[Cwcipedia]] on her computer in her room, reading the latest page uploaded and enjoying it. Later, she sends a message for the [[Mailbag]], asking if I could come to Quahog for their upcoming Comic Book Convention to show off my work. I respond, "[[Rape|I just may, Meg]]. ;)" Then I later drive up to Quahog in [[Son-Chu|my car]] (debatable on the destination being the Comic Con or the Griffin House), either way, the Griffins greet and welcome me. Then I break out [[Homos#Evidence that Chris is a homo|my two]] [[S-Chu Ball]]s, toss them and release [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]]; more greetings. Megan thanks me very much for my compliments I gave a lot of, and we hang out throughout the episode ([[pedofork|I hope she has turned Eighteen]] by the time I get there, so this can be a really good story). For the [[Wikipedia:Subplot|"B" Story]], Brian gets a bit [[autism|antsy]] around the [[Sonichu_0#Episode_2:_.22Genesis_of_the_Lovehogs.22|Lovehogs]]' cuddlings, and he just could not help but ask them about how they maintain their relationship. And Sonichu and Rosechu tell Brian and help him find himself a new good girlfriend. **Suggestion to Seth, Let's Add a Smart, [[Patti-Chan|Sweet Girl Dog]] for Brian (Yes, SHE TALKS), as for breed, [[Chris and sex#Bestiality|I think any sexy breed]] (not a poodle; nothing against poodles, but I feel that a poodle might not work well for Brian).}}<br />
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Chris also described the plot in his [[9 December 2009]] C-Log; basically the same, except that it was an anime con.<br />
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==Chris's criticisms==<br />
Although Chris loves ''Family Guy'', he has several ideas that he's certain would make the show much, much better. Most of his suggestions revolve around his infantile fears of [[homos]]exuality, his sad ability to fall desperately in love with [[BlueSpike|fictional women]] and issues with the plot that only someone with [[autism]] would notice. Also, the tower incident that Chris is referring to takes place in the ''Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story''. However, Chris is wrong about it causing Stewie to be straight. This is because it is pretty obviously hinted in this movie that he is gay, as he is a virgin at 30, still shows very flamboyant tendencies and is very reluctant to have sex with a woman. <br />
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Also: subtle hints of [[Chris and sex#Bestiality|bestiality]].<br />
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*''"Megan does not deserve [[Kick the Autistic|the abuse]] she gets. She is a Beautiful Girl, she is Very Smart, and she is the Oldest of the three children. So, Why.T.F. does Seth let most everyone treat her terribly? What is it about her that everyone is seeing to instinctively wail on her by default? WHAT and WHY?!"''<br />
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*''"Stewie should have let that tower fall on him; at least in the future scenario there, he Ended Up [[Straight]]."''<br />
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*''"[[Wikipedia:Chris Griffin|Chris]] finally got the best girlfriend he could ask for at the end of [[Wikipedia:Family Guy (season 6)|Season 6]], Anna, so what happened to her between then and when Connie dated him in [[Wikipedia:Family Guy (season 7)|Season 7]]?"''<br />
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*''"While I can see [[Wikipedia:Brian Griffin|Brain]] looking for the womanly qualities that he finds in the women he's dated, why does he not date female talking dogs who are That Pretty, Smart and all that?"''<br />
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*''"In "[[Wikipedia:Road to the Multiverse|Road to the Multiverse]]", in the "[[Wikipedia:Robot Chicken|Robot Chicken]]" Universe, Stewie asks [[Wikipedia:Seth Green|Seth Greene]] through Chris, "How does it feel to be on a Major Network for 30 Seconds?" Upon watching the video file on my [[PS3]], [[Autism|the time in that universe was Only 20 Seconds Total]], and there were NO additional portions of that scene in the version later shown on Cartoon Network's Adult Swim. Seth McFarline owes Seth Greene 10 Seconds and then some."''<br />
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*Chris wants American Dad to have "[[Wikipedia:Hayley Smith (American Dad!)|Haley]]" in more episodes.<br />
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*He does not care for all the [[pickle|dick]] jokes in ''The Cleveland Show''.<br />
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==Other mentions==<br />
Chris recycles ''Family Guy'' jokes at every opportunity, usually so out-of-context that they make no sense.<br />
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*In [[CWC's Second Message]], he was angry that people were saying he was a [[pedofork]], like [[Wikipedia:Herbert (Family Guy)|Herbert]].<br />
*Chris said "SHAZZAM!" when [[Vanessa AIM Chat 2|cybering with "Vanessa Hudgens"]], a joke borrowed from "[[Wikipedia:The Perfect Castaway|The Perfect Castaway]]" and "[[Wikipedia:Fifteen Minutes of Shame|Fifteen Minutes of Shame]]."<br />
*Chris constantly described ''[[Asperchu]]'' as "blocky" and "low-resolution"<ref>[[Mailbag 41]]</ref><ref>[[Mailbag 42]]</ref><ref>[[Mailbag 43]]</ref><ref>[[Mailbag 45]]</ref>, which is taken from "[[Wikipedia:Road to the Multiverse|Road to the Multiverse]]."<br />
*In [[Rollin' and Trollin']], Chris called [[Obama]] "a regular stand-up family guy."<br />
*In [[Kacey Call 11]], Chris talks about how he hated finding out that Stewie is gay. He also claimed that ''Family Guy'' was temporarily cancelled in 2002 because everyone was "distracted" by [[Twin Falling Towers|9/11]], even though it had already been temporarily cancelled in 2000 due to low ratings, and they hadn't been getting any better in 2001.<br />
*Chris's [[A Public Announcement for Congress|Public Announcement for Congress]] segues into the theme tune of [[Wikipedia:The Facts of Life (TV series)|''The Facts of Life'']], a joke taken from "[[Wikipedia:Running Mates (Family Guy)|Running Mates]]."<br />
*In [[Kacey Call 22]], Chris told her that he ignores it, or turns down the volume, when Stewie acts gay or when pro-homo scenes appear in ''Family Guy''.<br />
*The story [[JenkinsJinkies]] told about his [[Trollin Train|gay experience]] at camp was allegedly inspired by Peter's parrot squawking "I had a gay experience at camp!" in "[[Wikipedia:Long John Peter|Long John Peter]]".<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 5]]</ref><ref>[[Facebook]]</ref><br />
*In [[Chris Sings Fart Song for Flora]], Chris sings the fart song from "[[Wikipedia:The Man with Two Brians|The Man with Two Brians]]."<br />
*Chris's knowledge of [[Wikipedia:Mormonism|Mormonism]] is mainly derived from "[[Wikipedia:The Father, the Son, and the Holy Fonz|The Father, the Son, and the Holy Fonz]]."<ref>[[IRC (27 December 2008)]]</ref><br />
*Chris has referred to his obesity as a "[[Wikipedia:Budai|Buddha]] belly"; this is probably taken from "[[Wikipedia:To Love and Die in Dixie|To Love and Die in Dixie]]."<br />
*Chris sang "[[Wikipedia:Never Gonna Give You Up|Never Gonna Give You Up]]" in [[Chris Chan Update 24 September 2008]] - he doesn't seem to link it to [[Wikipedia:Rickrolling|Rickrolling]] and probably knew it from "[[Wikipedia:Meet the Quagmires|Meet the Quagmires]]".<br />
*Chris imitated Peter (horribly) when talking to [[Clyde Cash]] in [[Mumble 4]]: ''"Hey listen, Peter Griffin, he's a family guy and he's [[Slow-in-the-minds|retarded]] and yet look at his life!"''<br />
* Chris often declares that a person or situation "grinds his gears," which was Peter Griffin's stock saying in [[Wikipedia:Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story|''Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story'']].<ref>[[Father Call]], [[Vivitheg's AIM chat]], [[sports bra]]</ref><br />
*When [[100 2266|acting as the Grimace]], Chris said that Grimace is [[autistic]], which he took from a throwaway line in "[[Wikipedia:Prick Up Your Ears|Prick Up Your Ears]]."<br />
*In [[Mailbag 25#This is perhaps the worst advice Chris has ever given|Mailbag 25]] Chris gives some awful relationship advice which seems to have been inspired by the Family Guy episode "[[Wikipedia:Bill & Peter's Bogus Journey|Bill & Peter's Bogus Journey]]".<br />
*The video [[It's not that cold]] shows Chris reenacting a scene shown in the episode ''"Stew-Roids"'', where Chris Griffin is exposed doing the exact same routine.<br />
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==Other MacFarlane shows==<br />
[[File:Seth.PNG|300px|right]]<br />
===''American Dad!''===<br />
''[[Wikipedia:American Dad!|American Dad!]]'' is another MacFarlane series, again based around a single family. Unlike the two other MacFarlane shows (and countless others before them), main character [[Wikipedia:Stan Smith (American Dad!)|Stan Smith]] actually manages not to be a fat moronic loser, being in decent physical shape, holding a prestigious job and coming across as reasonably intelligent, albeit with poor judgement which is further clouded by his hard-right political views. Not surprisingly, this is the MacFarlane show that Chris appears to pay the least attention to, though he does appear to be somewhat of a fan. Chris stated on the [[CWCipedia]] that "There should be More Stories starring Haley." [[Wikipedia:Hayley Smith (American Dad!)|Hayley Smith]] is the left-wing daughter of Stan Smith. Doubtless Chris wanted more Hayley stories, not due to his love of marijuana jokes or the Democratic Party, but because he thought she was sexy.<br />
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===''The Cleveland Show''===<br />
27 [[September 2009]] saw the debut of [[wikipedia:The Cleveland Show|''The Cleveland Show'']], a ''Family Guy'' spin-off that answered the question, "What would happen if we took a fairly bland supporting character on ''Family Guy'' and gave him his own show?" Naturally, it sounded like a solid gold idea to Chris, as he plugged the show heavily on [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 15th, 2009|one of his Captain's Logs]]. The eager endorsement of the show by an [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|odorous]], [[muscle bra|bra]]-wearing [[Creepy stare|creepy-ass]] manchild is certainly much appreciated by the Fox Network.<br />
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It would seem Chris may have been too hasty in his initial endorsement of the show. In a [[CWCipedia]] update on 11 [[December 2009]], after making several idiotic points about ''Family Guy'', his analysis of ''The Cleveland Show'' consisted simply of, "I do not care for all the dick jokes." This didn't stop him from buying the show's first season through the [[PlayStation Network]], though.<br />
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In another eerie coincidence, an episode revolved around a sex doll named [[Kimmi]].<br />
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On 22 [[March 2010]], Chris broke [[03212010 C-Ya Later.MOV|his vow never to use the Internet again]] after thirty-six hours to [[Cleveland Show Voice Rant|complain]] about changes in the show's voice acting. He would continue his whining in [[Some Favored Comedians|a video about his favorite comedians]] [[May 2010|two months later]].<br />
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In an [[100 2279|October 2010]] video, Chris held up a DVD box set of the first season of ''The Cleveland Show'' and performed a terrible rendition of the show's theme tune. He spent $30 on this set, much to [[Jackie]]'s chagrin.<ref>[[Jackie Chat 8]]</ref><br />
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Sadly, Chris's seal of approval did nothing to help the show's fortunes, and it was cancelled in May 2013. Chris does not appear to have commented on the show's demise, suggesting that even he had stopped caring by this point.<br />
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==See also==<br />
{{CWCipedia}}<br />
* [[Sammy]] - Chris's bastard love child creation of him combined with [[Wikipedia:Peter Griffin|Peter Griffin]]<br />
* ''[[Aqua Teen Hunger Force]]''<br />
* ''[[Monty Python|Monty Python's Flying Circus]]''<br />
* ''[[South Park]]''<br />
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==Sources==<br />
<references/><br />
==External links==<br />
* [[Wikipedia:Family Guy|''Family Guy'']] at [[Wikipedia]]<br />
[[Category:Things Chris has ripped off]]<br />
[[Category:Television shows]]</div>
Ujirat
https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Family_Guy&diff=204718
Family Guy
2017-02-12T06:58:08Z
<p>Ujirat: </p>
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<div>[[Image:Chris&Meg.jpg|thumb|THIS IS WHAT HE ACTUALLY BELIEVES.]]<br />
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'''''Family Guy''''' is an animated sitcom that debuted in Fox in [[1999]], but was eventually cancelled in [[2002]] due to poor ratings and for initially being considered a sub-par rip-off of ''[[The Simpsons]]''. However, the show's ratings increased after [[Adult Swim]] picked up reruns in [[2003]], and the popularity that ensued led to Fox reviving the show in [[2005]], where it continues to this day. It is known for basing most of its jokes around pop-cultural references and cutaway gags, which is interesting considering [[Chris]] [[Things Chris has ripped off|rips it off]] so much in [[Sonichu (comic)|his comics]], much like the show rips off everything else. <br />
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==Influence on Chris==<br />
Chris has variously expressed fanaticism for the series and watches it regularly. It can be inferred from this that the show's frequent use of [[random-access humor|non-sequitur, referential humor]] has bolstered Chris's belief that reproducing (or at least "borrowing") themes, motifs and characters from other works makes for legitimate, original art and has influenced his muddled understanding of [[parody]].<br />
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Also significant is his [[Captain's Log, Stardate March 10th, 2009|citing of ''Family Guy'']] as material that endorses [[homos|homophobia]], having completely misinterpreted what was a not-so-subtle jab at the prejudice in an episode. As the series often deals with issues of bigotry and other social taboos in a manner which to most would constitute unsubtle, perhaps even ham-fisted, irony, the question is raised as to what other messages from the show Chris takes at face value.<br />
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The specific scene which Chris referenced depicted [[Wikipedia:Stewie Griffin|Stewie]] quoting [[Wikipedia:the Bible|the Bible]] to prove that [[Wikipedia:gay marriage|Gay marriage]] is wrong, the joke being twofold; Stewie himself is ambiguously [[Homos|gay]], making his quoting of the Bible [[Chris and hypocrisy|hypocritical]], and, as pointed out by [[Wikipedia:Brian Griffin|Brian]], he is too infantile to properly contextualize Biblical scripture, a dig at ''precisely'' the sort of [[Chris and religion|brainless Bible-thumping]] Chris exhibits. This joke obviously soared over Chris's head, and even now, Chris references that scene to prove that being gay is wrong. What's even more ridiculous is the fact that Chris seems to have not heard of any specific parts of the Bible that condemn homosexuality, despite being a supposedly devout Christian his entire life, until it was spelled out in an animated comedy series. <br />
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===In ''Sonichu''===<br />
The series is the "inspiration" for Chris's infamous ''[[Ghostbusters]]'' [[Sonichu_7#The_Family_Guy_.22Skitch.22|"skitch"]] that appeared in [[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]] and contained the one-off appearance of his character [[Sammy]], a creation that was a mix between Chris and [[Wikipedia:Peter Griffin|Peter Griffin]]. Chris had hoped that the creator of ''Family Guy'', [[Wikipedia:Seth MacFarlane|Seth MacFarlane]], could possibly use his "skitch" in a future episode, but he unfortunately didn't realize MacFarlane is quite capable of making unfunny, plagiarized, poorly drawn, boring shit on his own.<br />
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[[Sonichu 8|''Sonichu'' #8]] featured the line "Insert rod 'A' into slot 'B'" as an apparent example of dirty talk; in "[[Wikipedia:Emission Impossible|Emission Impossible]]" "Insert rod support A into slot B," was an example of awful innuendo. Meanwhile, [[Bubbles Rosechu]] asks [[Blake]] what he wished for and he says "It's already come true"; this could be directly from [[Wikipedia:Sixteen Candles|''Sixteen Candles'']], but could also be from the [[parody]] of this scene in ''Family Guy''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s "[[Wikipedia:PTV (Family Guy)|PTV]]".<br />
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The "Spring Break" plotline also owes a lot to Meg and Lois's story in "[[Wikipedia:A Fish out of Water (Family Guy)|A Fish out of Water]]", including the bit where every channel is showing Spring Break, even the news channels.<br />
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The "[[homos|gay]] vaccine" storyline from [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' 10]] was partially inspired by the episode "[[Wikipedia:Family Gay|Family Gay]]", where Peter becomes gay after being injected with the gay gene.<ref>[[Kacey Call 16]]</ref><br />
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In [[Sonichu 11|''Sonichu'' #11]], Chris copies the line "I'm the virgin Mary; that's my story and I'm sticking to it," from "[[Wikipedia:A Very Special Family Guy Freakin' Christmas|A Very Special Family Guy Freakin' Christmas]]."<br />
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==Chris and Meg==<br />
[[Image:Meg 08-10-2009.jpg|thumb|Chris's declaration of intention regarding [[Megan Schroeder|Meg]].]]<br />
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{{Quote|Megan thanks me very much for my compliments I gave a lot of, and we hang out throughout the episode (I hope she has turned Eighteen by the time I get there, so this can be a really good story).|Chris, on what makes a story [[China|really good]].<ref>[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Family_Guy Cwcipedia page on ''Family Guy'']</ref>}}<br />
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[[Image:ChrisChanfamilyguy.jpg|thumb|Chris's welcome page as of 9 October 2009.]]<br />
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Chris has a crush on [[Meg Griffin]] (a cartoon character, for those keeping track at home). However, what Chris doesn't seem to understand is that a good portion of the show's "humor" is intended to come at the expense of Meg Griffin. She is mostly portrayed as [[obesity|fat]], unlikeable and ugly (sound familiar?) and given very few lines in episodes. Despite her portrayal, Chris has developed feelings for her, perhaps finding a kindred spirit in another person whose only use seems to be to entertain the masses by being constantly mistreated by the world at large (that or her name just reminds him of [[Megan Schroeder|someone...]]). Although she is [[pedofork|underage]], Chris has sought porn of her, going so far as to assimilate it into his drawings.<br />
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On 8 [[October 2009]], he commented on a [[YouTube]] clip from the episode "[[Wikipedia:Road to the Multiverse|Road to the Multiverse]]" depicting a hot alternate-universe Meg, lamenting that if only MacFarlane let Meg turn eighteen that CWC would "be all over her sweet pussy and breasts."<ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDy-LEpQapQ</ref><br />
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In [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], Chris inserted Meg into the comic, [[Chris and his ego|having her compliment Chris on the comic]]. In turn, Chris defends Meg's "honor" by beating up a guy who insults the two of them. He then kisses Meg, cheating on his future wife [[Lovely Weather]]. It turns out that Meg is [[Silvana Rosechu]], an evil hermaphrodite furfag, in disguise. When accused of being a [[pedofork]] (Meg is 17), Chris retorted "SHE PUSHED HERSELF ONTO ME!"<ref>[[Mailbag 37]]</ref><br />
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Chris also wrote about her in [[Mailbag 20]]:<br />
{{quote|She has a fun and sweet personality; she is very pretty; she is smart; what is there NOT to like about her? Nothing from my point of view.}}<br />
==Chris's message to Seth MacFarlane==<br />
On 5 [[June 2009]], [[The Miscreants]] special ops agent [[Bryan Bash]] hacked into Chris's YouTube account and found a message Chris sent to ''Family Guy'' creator Seth MacFarlane via his YouTube account.<br />
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{{quotebox|Hello Seth,<br />
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I am a long-time Family Guy Fan. I have purchased the Blu-Ray of [[Wikipedia:Seth MacFarlane's Cavalcade of Cartoon Comedy|your Calvacade]]; I enjoyed all but the homosexual and dick jokes (I detest the [[homos]] very strongly). For your next bunch of 50 or so videos, please do more breast and vagina jokes.<br />
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Also, in Family Guy, PLEASE give Megan more respect, because she [[Chris and writing|IS VERY BEATIFUL]] in my perspective, and she truly deserves MORE Positive attention and less abuse. Give her an irreversable Love Potion or something yo give her the attention that she deserves for MULTIPLE SEASONS and MULTIPLE CONSISTANT episodes.<br />
<br />
We LOVE Megan Marie Griffin.<br />
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Peace,<br />
<br />
Christian Weston Chandler, creator of Sonichu and Rosechu at http://www.cwcville.com}}<br />
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==The Chrisode==<br />
[[Image:126052012913.jpg|thumb|Leaked concept sketches made by [[Trolls|Seth MacFarlane]] himself.]]<br />
[[File:FamilyGuyChris.JPG|thumb|Chris's own sketch in a ''Family Guy''-style.]]<br />
On [[Captain's Log, Stardate December 9th, 2009|9 December 2009]] Chris said that he'd heard rumors that Seth MacFarlane was planning on including him in a future ''Family Guy'' episode. This obviously [[fake news|Pmurt]] inflated [[Chris and his Ego|Chris's ego]] to [[Giant Penis Comic|gigantic proportions]], to the point where he felt the need to pitch an idea for the plot. Below is the {{CWCipedia link|Family Guy|plot he posted}} on the [[CWCipedia]].<br />
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{{quotebox|I, Christian Weston Chandler, have described the story in a nutshell in my [[Captain's Log, Stardate December 9th, 2009|recent video]]. But to reiterate (the final story will be typed up then copied/pasted onto this page), The show opens on Megan going onto the [[Cwcipedia]] on her computer in her room, reading the latest page uploaded and enjoying it. Later, she sends a message for the [[Mailbag]], asking if I could come to Quahog for their upcoming Comic Book Convention to show off my work. I respond, "[[Rape|I just may, Meg]]. ;)" Then I later drive up to Quahog in [[Son-Chu|my car]] (debatable on the destination being the Comic Con or the Griffin House), either way, the Griffins greet and welcome me. Then I break out [[Homos#Evidence that Chris is a homo|my two]] [[S-Chu Ball]]s, toss them and release [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]]; more greetings. Megan thanks me very much for my compliments I gave a lot of, and we hang out throughout the episode ([[pedofork|I hope she has turned Eighteen]] by the time I get there, so this can be a really good story). For the [[Wikipedia:Subplot|"B" Story]], Brian gets a bit [[autism|antsy]] around the [[Sonichu_0#Episode_2:_.22Genesis_of_the_Lovehogs.22|Lovehogs]]' cuddlings, and he just could not help but ask them about how they maintain their relationship. And Sonichu and Rosechu tell Brian and help him find himself a new good girlfriend. **Suggestion to Seth, Let's Add a Smart, [[Patti-Chan|Sweet Girl Dog]] for Brian (Yes, SHE TALKS), as for breed, [[Chris and sex#Bestiality|I think any sexy breed]] (not a poodle; nothing against poodles, but I feel that a poodle might not work well for Brian).}}<br />
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Chris also described the plot in his [[9 December 2009]] C-Log; basically the same, except that it was an anime con.<br />
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==Chris's criticisms==<br />
Although Chris loves ''Family Guy'', he has several ideas that he's certain would make the show much, much better. Most of his suggestions revolve around his infantile fears of [[homos]]exuality, his sad ability to fall desperately in love with [[BlueSpike|fictional women]] and issues with the plot that only someone with [[autism]] would notice. Also, the tower incident that Chris is referring to takes place in the ''Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story''. However, Chris is wrong about it causing Stewie to be straight. This is because it is pretty obviously hinted in this movie that he is gay, as he is a virgin at 30, still shows very flamboyant tendencies and is very reluctant to have sex with a woman. <br />
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Also: subtle hints of [[Chris and sex#Bestiality|bestiality]].<br />
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*''"Megan does not deserve [[Kick the Autistic|the abuse]] she gets. She is a Beautiful Girl, she is Very Smart, and she is the Oldest of the three children. So, Why.T.F. does Seth let most everyone treat her terribly? What is it about her that everyone is seeing to instinctively wail on her by default? WHAT and WHY?!"''<br />
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*''"Stewie should have let that tower fall on him; at least in the future scenario there, he Ended Up [[Straight]]."''<br />
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*''"[[Wikipedia:Chris Griffin|Chris]] finally got the best girlfriend he could ask for at the end of [[Wikipedia:Family Guy (season 6)|Season 6]], Anna, so what happened to her between then and when Connie dated him in [[Wikipedia:Family Guy (season 7)|Season 7]]?"''<br />
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*''"While I can see [[Wikipedia:Brian Griffin|Brain]] looking for the womanly qualities that he finds in the women he's dated, why does he not date female talking dogs who are That Pretty, Smart and all that?"''<br />
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*''"In "[[Wikipedia:Road to the Multiverse|Road to the Multiverse]]", in the "[[Wikipedia:Robot Chicken|Robot Chicken]]" Universe, Stewie asks [[Wikipedia:Seth Green|Seth Greene]] through Chris, "How does it feel to be on a Major Network for 30 Seconds?" Upon watching the video file on my [[PS3]], [[Autism|the time in that universe was Only 20 Seconds Total]], and there were NO additional portions of that scene in the version later shown on Cartoon Network's Adult Swim. Seth McFarline owes Seth Greene 10 Seconds and then some."''<br />
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*Chris wants American Dad to have "[[Wikipedia:Hayley Smith (American Dad!)|Haley]]" in more episodes.<br />
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*He does not care for all the [[pickle|dick]] jokes in ''The Cleveland Show''.<br />
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==Other mentions==<br />
Chris recycles ''Family Guy'' jokes at every opportunity, usually so out-of-context that they make no sense.<br />
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*In [[CWC's Second Message]], he was angry that people were saying he was a [[pedofork]], like [[Wikipedia:Herbert (Family Guy)|Herbert]].<br />
*Chris said "SHAZZAM!" when [[Vanessa AIM Chat 2|cybering with "Vanessa Hudgens"]], a joke borrowed from "[[Wikipedia:The Perfect Castaway|The Perfect Castaway]]" and "[[Wikipedia:Fifteen Minutes of Shame|Fifteen Minutes of Shame]]."<br />
*Chris constantly described ''[[Asperchu]]'' as "blocky" and "low-resolution"<ref>[[Mailbag 41]]</ref><ref>[[Mailbag 42]]</ref><ref>[[Mailbag 43]]</ref><ref>[[Mailbag 45]]</ref>, which is taken from "[[Wikipedia:Road to the Multiverse|Road to the Multiverse]]."<br />
*In [[Rollin' and Trollin']], Chris called [[Obama]] "a regular stand-up family guy."<br />
*In [[Kacey Call 11]], Chris talks about how he hated finding out that Stewie is gay. He also claimed that ''Family Guy'' was temporarily cancelled in 2002 because everyone was "distracted" by [[Twin Falling Towers|9/11]], even though it had already been temporarily cancelled in 2000 due to low ratings, and they hadn't been getting any better in 2001.<br />
*Chris's [[A Public Announcement for Congress|Public Announcement for Congress]] segues into the theme tune of [[Wikipedia:The Facts of Life (TV series)|''The Facts of Life'']], a joke taken from "[[Wikipedia:Running Mates (Family Guy)|Running Mates]]."<br />
*In [[Kacey Call 22]], Chris told her that he ignores it, or turns down the volume, when Stewie acts gay or when pro-homo scenes appear in ''Family Guy''.<br />
*The story [[JenkinsJinkies]] told about his [[Trollin Train|gay experience]] at camp was allegedly inspired by Peter's parrot squawking "I had a gay experience at camp!" in "[[Wikipedia:Long John Peter|Long John Peter]]".<ref>[[Jackie E-mails 5]]</ref><ref>[[Facebook]]</ref><br />
*In [[Chris Sings Fart Song for Flora]], Chris sings the fart song from "[[Wikipedia:The Man with Two Brians|The Man with Two Brians]]."<br />
*Chris's knowledge of [[Wikipedia:Mormonism|Mormonism]] is mainly derived from "[[Wikipedia:The Father, the Son, and the Holy Fonz|The Father, the Son, and the Holy Fonz]]."<ref>[[IRC (27 December 2008)]]</ref><br />
*Chris has referred to his obesity as a "[[Wikipedia:Budai|Buddha]] belly"; this is probably taken from "[[Wikipedia:To Love and Die in Dixie|To Love and Die in Dixie]]."<br />
*Chris sang "[[Wikipedia:Never Gonna Give You Up|Never Gonna Give You Up]]" in [[Chris Chan Update 24 September 2008]] - he doesn't seem to link it to [[Wikipedia:Rickrolling|Rickrolling]] and probably knew it from "[[Wikipedia:Meet the Quagmires|Meet the Quagmires]]".<br />
*Chris imitated Peter (horribly) when talking to [[Clyde Cash]] in [[Mumble 4]]: ''"Hey listen, Peter Griffin, he's a family guy and he's [[Slow-in-the-minds|retarded]] and yet look at his life!"''<br />
* Chris often declares that a person or situation "grinds his gears," which was Peter Griffin's stock saying in [[Wikipedia:Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story|''Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story'']].<ref>[[Father Call]], [[Vivitheg's AIM chat]], [[sports bra]]</ref><br />
*When [[100 2266|acting as the Grimace]], Chris said that Grimace is [[autistic]], which he took from a throwaway line in "[[Wikipedia:Prick Up Your Ears|Prick Up Your Ears]]."<br />
*In [[Mailbag 25#This is perhaps the worst advice Chris has ever given|Mailbag 25]] Chris gives some awful relationship advice which seems to have been inspired by the Family Guy episode "[[Wikipedia:Bill & Peter's Bogus Journey|Bill & Peter's Bogus Journey]]".<br />
*The video [[It's not that cold]] shows Chris reenacting a scene shown in the episode ''"Stew-Roids"'', where Chris Griffin is exposed doing the exact same routine.<br />
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==Other MacFarlane shows==<br />
[[File:Seth.PNG|300px|right]]<br />
===''American Dad!''===<br />
''[[Wikipedia:American Dad!|American Dad!]]'' is another MacFarlane series, again based around a single family. Unlike the two other MacFarlane shows (and countless others before them), main character [[Wikipedia:Stan Smith (American Dad!)|Stan Smith]] actually manages not to be a fat moronic loser, being in decent physical shape, holding a prestigious job and coming across as reasonably intelligent, albeit with poor judgement which is further clouded by his hard-right political views. Not surprisingly, this is the MacFarlane show that Chris appears to pay the least attention to, though he does appear to be somewhat of a fan. Chris stated on the [[CWCipedia]] that "There should be More Stories starring Haley." [[Wikipedia:Hayley Smith (American Dad!)|Hayley Smith]] is the left-wing daughter of Stan Smith. Doubtless Chris wanted more Hayley stories, not due to his love of marijuana jokes or the Democratic Party, but because he thought she was sexy.<br />
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===''The Cleveland Show''===<br />
27 [[September 2009]] saw the debut of [[wikipedia:The Cleveland Show|''The Cleveland Show'']], a ''Family Guy'' spin-off that answered the question, "What would happen if we took a fairly bland supporting character on ''Family Guy'' and gave him his own show?" Naturally, it sounded like a solid gold idea to Chris, as he plugged the show heavily on [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 15th, 2009|one of his Captain's Logs]]. The eager endorsement of the show by an [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|odorous]], [[muscle bra|bra]]-wearing [[Creepy stare|creepy-ass]] manchild is certainly much appreciated by the Fox Network.<br />
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It would seem Chris may have been too hasty in his initial endorsement of the show. In a [[CWCipedia]] update on 11 [[December 2009]], after making several idiotic points about ''Family Guy'', his analysis of ''The Cleveland Show'' consisted simply of, "I do not care for all the dick jokes." This didn't stop him from buying the show's first season through the [[PlayStation Network]], though.<br />
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In another eerie coincidence, an episode revolved around a sex doll named [[Kimmi]].<br />
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On 22 [[March 2010]], Chris broke [[03212010 C-Ya Later.MOV|his vow never to use the Internet again]] after thirty-six hours to [[Cleveland Show Voice Rant|complain]] about changes in the show's voice acting. He would continue his whining in [[Some Favored Comedians|a video about his favorite comedians]] [[May 2010|two months later]].<br />
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In an [[100 2279|October 2010]] video, Chris held up a DVD box set of the first season of ''The Cleveland Show'' and performed a terrible rendition of the show's theme tune. He spent $30 on this set, much to [[Jackie]]'s chagrin.<ref>[[Jackie Chat 8]]</ref><br />
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Sadly, Chris's seal of approval did nothing to help the show's fortunes, and it was cancelled in May 2013. Chris does not appear to have commented on the show's demise, suggesting that even he had stopped caring by this point.<br />
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==See also==<br />
{{CWCipedia}}<br />
* [[Sammy]] - Chris's bastard love child creation of him combined with [[Wikipedia:Peter Griffin|Peter Griffin]]<br />
* ''[[Aqua Teen Hunger Force]]''<br />
* ''[[Monty Python|Monty Python's Flying Circus]]''<br />
* ''[[South Park]]''<br />
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==Sources==<br />
<references/><br />
==External links==<br />
* [[Wikipedia:Family Guy|''Family Guy'']] at [[Wikipedia]]<br />
[[Category:Things Chris has ripped off]]<br />
[[Category:Television shows]]</div>
Ujirat
https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=2016&diff=204183
2016
2017-01-23T06:04:38Z
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<div>{{quote|I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother.|[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts|Chris, in August.]]<br />
}}<br />
{{quote|Too bad [Hitler] died|[[September 2016 Facebook posts#Hitler and the Autobots|Chris, in September.]]<br />
}} <br />
{{quote|Someone, Anyone, PLEASE, take a sniper rifle and kill Trump; shoot him in the head like the impulsive, non-thinking, uncaring Zombie that he is.|[[November 2016 Facebook posts#Chris wants Trump assassinated|Chris]], in November.<br />
}} <br />
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'''2016''' was the eighth year of organized trolling. <br />
It is a year that brought us the following things:<br />
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- The further degeneration of Chris's hair. Due to a mix of neglect and his traditional lack of self respect, his [[hair|hair]] now resembles a dying, green dish rag [[Chris and health|which only emboldens his rapidly-receding skullet.]]<br />
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- Fought with, then eventually made up with...and then fought with again, [[CWC's Adult Chronicles|Jeff O.]] on the issue of selling Sonichu merchandise. <br />
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- Chris apologizing to males with Asperger's.<br />
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- Chris began and quickly ended his GameStop embargo because it accomplished nothing. <br />
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- Chris began sending death threats once again, this time to [[Donald Trump]]<br />
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- Mind-numbing amounts of e-begging<br />
<br />
==January==<br />
{{main|January 2016}}<br />
[[File:0116.png|thumb|Chris in January]]<br />
Chris [[Lesbian Sleepover Party Announcement.|advertised a lesbian sleepover]] and [[CatKnight Interview|was interviewed]].<br />
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==February==<br />
{{main|February 2016}}<br />
[[File:CWC34.png|thumb|left|Chris in February]]<br />
Chris released [[Apologies for offending people|another apology]] video and [[Birthday|turned 34]]. A [[Chris's Specimen Sample|semen donor video]] was leaked.<br />
[[File:Cwcmar16.PNG|thumb|Chris in March]]<br />
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==March==<br />
{{main|March 2016}}<br />
Chris bought a [[PlayStation 4]] and claimed it was a gift from a fan. [[Barb]] is ordered to pay a credit card bill of $4,700.<br />
[[File:Cwcap16.PNG|thumb|250px|Chris in April 2016.]]<br />
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==April==<br />
{{main|April 2016}}<br />
Chris released [[My Breast Massage Routine 18+]] and [[Please, Donate|begged for donors]]. He also started [[Sonichu Entertainment of America]] and quickly forget about.<br />
[[File:Cwcmay16.PNG|thumb|250px|left|Chris in May 2016]]<br />
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==May==<br />
{{main|May 2016}}<br />
Chris bought a waifu, [[IMG 3207|had sex with a doll on YouTube]] and filed to change his name to Christine.<br />
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==June==<br />
[[File:Cwcjun16.jpg|thumb|250px|Chris in June]]<br />
{{main|June 2016}}<br />
Chris begged for money, ostensibly for Barb's medication. He also tried to restart his gigolo career.<br />
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==July==<br />
[[File:Christine license.jpg|thumb|250px|Chris's Woman Card in July 2016]]<br />
{{main|July 2016}}<br />
Chris [[26_December_2014|paid]] his court costs. Barb made an appearance in [[Donations Further Requested, Please|a begging video]]. Most horrifyingly, Chris got [[Un-clit 2.0|an open, bleeding wound on his groin]] and [[Chris and reality|thinks it means he started to grow a vagina as a result from watching subliminal frequency videos.]]<br />
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==August==<br />
[[File:Aug16cwc.jpg|thumb|250px|left|Chris in August 2016]]<br />
{{Main|August 2016}}<br />
Chris admitted fantasizing about incest with his mother.<br />
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==September ==<br />
[[File:CWC0916.PNG|thumb|left|250px|Chris in September 2016]]<br />
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{{Main|September 2016}}<br />
A court rules that Barb must pay a debt of [[Financhu Crisis|$16k]]. Chris is interviewed by a Youtube personality at [[Cville Pride]]. Chris makes an [[Something Completely Different - A few Transformers Jokes, also anti-Pmurt|anti-Donald Trump]] video, and laments the death of Adolf Hitler on Facebook.<br />
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==October ==<br />
[[File:Cwc october 2016.png|thumb|250px|Chris in October 2016]]<br />
{{Main|October 2016}}<br />
Chris tries using [[Unban contracts]] on [[Gamestop]] and [[Best Buy]]. He continues to comment about his hatred of [[Pmurt|Donald Trump]], including a [[October 2016 Facebook posts#Pmurt should take parodies in jest|post]] saying that he should have taken "[[Asperchu|a parody]] [[Liquid Chris|of himself]] [[CHRIS!!! CHANDLER!!!|in jest]]."<br />
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==November==<br />
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{{Main|November 2016}}<br />
[[File:Cwc1116.jpg|thumb|Chris in Nov 2016]]<br />
Chris spent nearly all of November issuing online death threads to president elect Donald Trump.<br />
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==December==<br />
{{Main|December 2016}}<br />
Chris continues to demand the death of Trump, and comments on a ''Sonic Boom'' character with a suspiciously familiar appearance.<br />
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[[File:Chris tired 12-2016.jpeg|thumb|left|250px|Chris in Dec. 2016]]<br />
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== Sources ==<br />
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Ujirat
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<div>Add the sagas that we have from the [[List of Videos]] page and describe the overarching storylines in each. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 14:09, 19 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
*The current saga should be called the "Revalation" saga. --[[User:14recinez|14recinez]] 15:30, 14 September 2013 (EST)<br />
* Add information involving the Ebay stuff to the Facebook Saga section. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
* Add the 2014 sagas to the Sagas timeline. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
==Changes==<br />
So basically what I tried to do so far is sum up every saga in 3 images. Is this at all helpful? I can upload colour versions instead if we prefer, but I thought this looked kind of good. I can also put all of them together to make a MEGASAGA sort of image that we can add to as more sagas become apparent. What do we want? Or delete them if you think they are gay. If they are not gay, then I will finish the rest tomorrow. ALSO: I can make a vertically oriented timeline (like from a history book) showing how they progress and overlap. Or horizontally, whatever we want really. Just tell me. For now, I need to sleep. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:25, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
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* I actually really like these. [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 03:38, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
:*I like them. Though I think that like, the subject of the saga should be in the center. Like, the Miyamoto saga, Reggie is in the middle when it really should be Miyamoto. If I may recommend one for Liquid, if there was a way to make it look like they're staring down each other, that'd be cool. Otherwise, nice work, I like the general idea. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:47, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
::*Your wish is my command. It is done. I think I got what you wanted for the Liquid saga too... Now what exactly? I can get started on a timeline. I guess I will work on making each subsection more introductory in the text too... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 20:49, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
::*So I have added some detail to give a bit more advanced insight on the sagas for this page. I hope it is helpful. Are there any other sagas that should be here? I assume not. What do we need to add to make this... complete... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:23, 25 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
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==Timeline==<br />
[[Image:Timeline.png|right]]<br />
So the timeline you see running here is one I made for this article. Problem, When I run it down the right side of the article it looks funny. At least I think it does. Try it. Should we put it there... or what? I will just work on the actual text of this article until we decide what to do about the imagery. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:33, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
*I haven't heard any opinions on this and they claimed to like it in IRC so I have it running down the right. Revert it if you like. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:41, 25 October 2009 (CET)<br />
:*I like it a lot too. Having it up and down isn't orthodox but it's well suited for the media. Very nice job. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)<br />
*I think it looks great, but I think the information is a bit wrong... the Megan Saga went on through the beginning of 2008 and into the ED and Adam Stackhouse affairs. Hell, there wouldn't be a Stackhouse Saga without Megan. Otherwise, it looks good. <br />
----[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 06:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Gregg Mays saga==<br />
Not sure if we should consider it part of Clyde Cash saga but we should consider a Gregg Mays saga to include all this Gregg Mays stuff. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)<br />
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==Jack Thaddeus Saga, anyone?==<br />
Or does anyone think it's too early? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 03:42, 2 January 2010 (CET)<br />
* I was about to suggest the same thing. With the [[Kill de Jack|recent]] [[To Clyde and Jack|videos]] aimed at him, the [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call|three]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 2|phone]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 3|calls]] and the CWCipedia ad shenanigans, not to mention [[It's UGH!|previous]] [[Chris humps his PS3|antics]], there seems to be enough material to warrant a new saga. --'''[[User:Lime|<font color="limegreen">L</font>]][[User_talk:Lime|<font color="limegreen">i</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|<font color="limegreen">m</font>]][[nudes|<font color="limegreen">e</font>]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 05:17, 8 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
** Don't forget about Asperchu in the future. Seeing how dedicated Alec is with it so far (and Jack just started advertising his wiki in CWCipedia), a Saga for that is inevitable! --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 05:32, 8 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
*** And I think it has begun! --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 02:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
**** {{Asperchu}} [[Asperchu]] Saga. You like? --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 02:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
***** Very nice! Now how about Jack, anyone? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 02:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
***** Awesome job on the icon! --'''[[User:Lime|<font color="limegreen">L</font>]][[User_talk:Lime|<font color="limegreen">i</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|<font color="limegreen">m</font>]][[nudes|<font color="limegreen">e</font>]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 02:09, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
===Actually...===<br />
Looking at recent edits, someone was adding a "Homosexual ad saga" to this page but it was reverted. While not a proper saga, I'd say it's a sort of mini saga and it's part of the Chris narrative, as it leads into Asperchu saga. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:49, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not sure I'd call the homosexual ads a saga by itself, but part of a CWCipedia saga? I'm certainly not part of the inner circle, but I imagine more hi-jinks involving the CWCipedia are in store. [[User:Chris fangs|Chris fangs]] 21:54, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
*I reverted it. It wasn't a proper saga, no. Even if it could be considered one, the information wasn't presented well enough. I first reverted the changes made to the timeline PNG[http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:Timeline.png], which also wasn't up to par. There could be a lead-in to the Asperchu Saga, sure, but I would vote no on calling it a saga. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
*I re-reverted because you're a huge faggot have a nice day [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]<br />
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*Actually, I changed my mind. If someone could make a better, more convincing presentation of it, go ahead. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:*I agree that the presentation on the timeline sucks, and the name "Homosexual ad saga" does as well. I think Chris fangs is onto something about it being called "CWCipedia saga" since in a way, the Mailbag is a way of trolling Chris and CWCipedia in general sorta inadvertently trolls Chris. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:20, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
::*Well, it seems I've angered someone. Not my intentions, to be sure. Anyway, CWCipedia Saga has a nice ring to it and it's relevant, since the Mailbag is certainly a repository of ongoing trolling. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:28, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
::*Champthom, I'll leave it to you to revert the timeline image/Saga page or not. I don't wish to get into a revert war over Chris Chan. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:34, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::*I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that you're right but so is Nitrocore. The concept of a saga invoking CWCipedia, perhaps call it CWCipedia saga, is good or maybe Jack Thaddeus saga (though I'm aiming at the former) but you are correct in that the write up and the name at the time did kinda suck, and we still need to work on the timeline. For starters, we need to get in touch with the original creator of the timeline or maybe start from scratch. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:58, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
* Ha i win sucker, I actually like "Cwc saga" as well i was just adding stuff(unlike you) if you can combine it and possibly make it better with external links then I'm not bothered [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]<br />
::::*I went with the CWCipedia idea. It's a rough draft, but you get the idea. Nitro, if there is a next time, try not to act like a child. Also, sign your discussion edits with the timestamp. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 00:37, 16 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==The CWCki Saga, anyone?==<br />
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I was going to start this, but decided otherwise unless objects to it, but what we got here is the start of a third saga - CWCki Saga. Chris knows about the CWCki and now he wants to take control of it. You think we should start gathering information on this?--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:19, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
*Damn. It's barely 24 hrs in and we are already talking about a saga! I think it is a tad too early to talk about a saga. Outside of "The WallFlower Incident", we got mostly nothing. Let's wait a little to see where it will goes. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:*I agree. Luckily, we'll probably find out two days from now, when his ultimatum gets ignored to death. If nothing comes of it, then nothing comes of it. If he spazzes out and does something really stupid, like threatening legal action or starting an epic edit war, then yeah. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 05:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Vanessa Saga==<br />
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My old pet project, probably not long or significant enough, but some pretty good videos and logs came from that --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 07:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
*Vanessa saga is one of the unsung tales of the overarching CWC saga and it's sorry that it isn't currently reflected here. However, perhaps now in retrospect it seems more to be part of Ivy saga, though Vanessa saga had dynamic elements and whatnot. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== more saga sum up images ==<br />
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we need a saga image for asperchu (not tito yet) and the cwikipedia saga--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 02:19, 20 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Heres a quick one i made for the game place, just to throw out the idea, can't use it since it doesn't match the others<br />
[[image:Picture_4.png]]<br />
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== Tito saga ==<br />
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'''In December 2009, Chris released a page from Sonichu 10, which revealed a girl named [[Lovely Weather]]. Many trolls were confused as to why Chris would create a fictional love interest when previous issues used real life girls. The confusion continued when Chris revealed he had a gal-pal during some of his Mailbags.'''<br />
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Is it just me or does this seem to suggest that "Lovely Weather" is connected to [[The Wallflower]]? If so, this text is incorrect as Chris didn't meet Wallflower until January at the latest. Srsly guys. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:50, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
* Okay, I'll admit - I wrote that bit when it seemed like there was a connection between Weather and Wallflower. I'll alter it so it won't seem that way.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 13:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==IRL Saga?==<br />
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It might be too early for this, but if he keeps up these public creeper antics, methinks an "IRL Saga" would be appropriate. --[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 16:12, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
* I always thought it would be better to call everything that's happened since he "left" the Internet the "CWC Exile Saga". But, still, IRL Saga's just as good.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 16:24, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
**How about 'Reality Saga'? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:48, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
***If we're going to do that, we might as well include the Love Quest as a saga, since this sounds pretty much like a repeat of those events. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 17:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
**** I understand the reasoning behind that, though a good chunk of the Love Quest happened online within specific sagas. Personally, the only issue I would see with such a saga (CWC Exile is a great title) is that it overlaps with The GAMe PLACe and the last bit of Surfshack Tito.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 01:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
***** I think, in a technical level, we're between sagas. We just simply have to wait and see what damn fool thing he does next. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 02:06, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Flipnote Hatena saga ==<br />
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Does it count as one yet? He's slowly cracking at the seams, and it could get worse. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 20:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
*It looks like it might form a saga as he goes along and breaks more Flipnote Waptena rules, so it's plausible. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 21:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
**Of course he's banned from uploading anything now. I think it was a bit short to count as a saga. A bit uneventful too, though that's just my thoughts on it. If everyone else thinks it could be considered it's own saga... Go for it.--[[User:Yoyoddd|Yoyoddd]] 10:07, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
***I look at this a bit like the Tito saga; very little actually was done to Chris, but it was his response to what happened that made it a saga. We have to wait and see how he reacts to the ban to see whether it's worthy or not. That's just my two cents though. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 10:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
****Maybe we should put "interim activities" as a separate category; nothing that fits the criteria for saga but still somewhat noteworthy. Chris being "off the internet" and on flipnote for a month could merit that. That way we could still fill out the periods between major sagas. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 14:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
*****Even if it doesn't count as a full-fledged "Saga" it was a pretty crazy two weeks. I'm not sure if he'll return to youtube as a result of his banning, but I'm sure he'll cap off the whole thing with an enraged complaint ''somewhere''.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 15:41, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==PS3 Saga?==<br />
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Before somebody already points it out, I know that the few destruction videos he put up doesn't count as a saga. I'm wondering if we should make a saga for the activities that lead to it's destruction. There's a lot of juicy info I'd like to catalog, but I don't know if it's officially over yet or not (And i also don't want to disrupt any trolling plans that may still be in motion). --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 15:04, 17 September 2010 (PDT)<br />
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==Missing Sagas==<br />
Why aren't the sagas caused by [[Vanessa_Saga|Joshua Martinez]] included on the saga list?<br />
*1) please sign your posts (it's four ~ in a row) 2) the stuff from Joshua Martinez is really part of Ivy saga. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
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==On Sagas==<br />
This isn't picking on anything that's going on here, but I was thinking and I think the term "saga" gets abused - not so much on here, mind you, but elsewhere but I think it sometimes spills over to the CWCki. <br />
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What is a saga? Like the article says, it's an overarching story in the life and times of Chris. For instance, let's take Miyamoto saga, which, also as the article says, what really started the whole "saga" thing. You have Chris and "Miyamoto" talking to each other over several weeks, and there's conflict between the two, then there's Reggie who gets involved, and then there's all the videos inbetween. If you watch a video from the saga without the context the saga arch provides, you're missing out on a lot. They're all intertwined, the content that is, and that's what the saga theme is all about, taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.<br />
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So what does this mean? You calling Chris is not "You calling Chris saga." Chris dressing up as a woman is not "Tomgirl saga." Seeing Chris at the mall is not "Chris at the mall saga." Chris does stuff, it doesn't need to fit in part of a narrative. It's sorta a chapter in the overarching saga that is Chris's life, but not a saga in itself. Secondly, I don't think sagas are really made. I think people expect to troll Chris and want some place on this page, wanting their own "Gigantic Attention Whore saga." Pretty much every saga wasn't intended to be a saga, it's not like they planned this all out, it's just going with the flow and it happens to have narrative to it. <br />
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I had more but I forgot what else I was going to say. But hopefully this will make sense and serve as a guide to what is a saga and what isn't, so much as how it should be included on the page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
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*Actually, while we're talking about sagas, I'd like to ask for a bit of clarification on how saga related articles are named. Recent sagas for instance are just documented in the article on the appropriate person. The article on the Ivy Saga is called [[Ivy]] and the article on the Liquid Saga is called [[Liquid Chris]]. But then there are articles which are literally called [[Miyamoto Saga]] or [[Vanessa Saga]], which are full of emails just dumped there incomprehensibly. And this is in spite of there actually being articles for [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] and [[Vanessa Hudgens]]. Don't get me wrong, I realize the need to keep the crap ton of emails separate from the main articles, but the naming convention is just odd. I'm not quite sure, but I'm willing to bet it's Clyde's fault. What is the official policy on naming saga articles? Should they all be named as "X" or as "X Saga"? And while we're on it, some sagas have a weird little template documenting all things related to them. Two I can name are [[:Template:BlancaSaga]] and [[:Template:MeganSaga]]. I don't think they're bad. They could use a little cleanup, but I do have a problem with the fact that some sagas have them and others don't. They could serve as a great way to sum up everything and point users in the direction of content relevant to each saga, but as it is right now, there's no consistency in which sagas have them. What should we do? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:29, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
:*Good points. In regards to the e-mails, I guess people consider the bulk of the saga the e-mails or IM chats behind them, but perhaps we could rename them to be "Miyamoto Saga e-mails" or "Vanessa Saga chats"? It's probably Clyde's fault, at least for the Miyamoto e-mails. As for the templates, they probably could use cleaning up and the reason why some do and some don't is because people haven't gotten around to doing them for other templates (which can be something you can work on, if you so please). Definitely, make templates for each saga, that'd be a great way to present information. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:46, 23 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
::*Well if you think that's something for me to work on then I suppose I could have a go at it. It'd make a change from all the sonichu shit that I've been doing recently. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:41, 24 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
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== Individual Saga pages ==<br />
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I didn't know where to put this suggestion, so I'm putting it here. I was thinking we can give each Saga its own page. The pages would go into more detail about the saga, a summary of the events, and a listing of videos, emails, etc. in order by date. This serves to make a description about all events in the Saga from beginning to end, as there is none on the CWCki. The closest there is to it is the timeline with all of the years and months, but often times there are events irrelevant to the Saga and events in other Sagas happening. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 16:47, 2 January 2012 (PST)<br />
* EDIT: I noticed there are articles called "Vanessa Saga" and more, but those aren't the type of formats I'm talking about. Those pages are only content dumps, but what I'm talking about is much more organized.<br />
* I made a [[Tomgirl Saga]] page. If there's a problem with it, or if the page is a bad idea, speak now or I'll write pages for the other sagas. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 09:56, 3 January 2012 (PST)<br />
*I still don't think that the whole Tomgirl thing is actually a saga, but I'll let other people debate that as that's mostly my opinion. The thing is, the articles about respective sagas tend to be in the page about the people involved. Like, most of the stuff with the Ivy saga is in the [[Ivy]] page, and the stuff about Liquid is on the [[Liquid Chris]] page. I see what you want to do and it does make sense but I think it might be redundant unless we totally rework these biographical articles so we're not saying the same stuff on two different pages.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:38, 4 January 2012 (PST)<br />
**I think that the question of whether or not every Saga deserves its own individual page should be decided on a case by case basis rather then collectively. I think that starting the article on the Tomgirl Saga was a good idea, but having articles such "Jackie Saga", "Blanca Saga" or "Julie Saga" will be redundant in my opinion. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 06:44, 4 January 2012 (PST)<br />
*** i agree, this page handles the simplified explanations and servers as a nice jumping off point. There is plenty blue here to get you started and if you need details about the saga then read the details linked in blue :)<br />
* I was thinking this myself. Not every saga needs a seperate page but sagas which involved a lot of interaction in the form of Youtube videos between two parties would benefit from a seperate entry. I'm especially thinking of the Liquid Chris/CWCivil war ordeal. One page or a group of pages with the video interaction between the two in chronological order would be very useful. Maybe the Asperchu saga also? I was taking a break from Chris during that period and am still not too clear on the chronology of events. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 09:06, 15 July 2012 (PDT)<br />
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== Second Exile saga? ==<br />
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Chris hasn't done anything of note lately. His therapist may have banned him from the internet, and is most likely doing his service or playing video games. This may go on for a while, and might be considered a saga.--[[User:Germanicus|Germanicus]] 14:13, 8 October 2012 (PDT)<br />
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- I disagree. A time without content, I feel, shouldn't be considered a saga.--[[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] 13:01, 3 Feburary 2014<br />
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== Regarding the Catherine Saga ==<br />
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I'll put the section back once the Catherine drama goes further. Like Champthom said before that sagas are "taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.", I say wait and see until we can confirm it. Right now, it's still early to claim a new saga. Not to mention sagas are abused to death. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 14:33, 10 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
*I'll just share some comments I made in the chat on the CWCki Forums on the matter. Like I've said, the saga really should just be a tool to provide a narrative to what happens with Chris in specific periods. We probably have what constitutes a saga now - Chris is active on Facebook, he apparently has a girlfriend, he's trying to make money off eBay and Kickstarter, he's claiming to be fully transgendered. I'm inclined to call this "Facebook saga" as I feel the characterization of this saga is Chris's interactions with people on Facebook. It's unusual as we mostly focus on people but I think in this case, it might make sense to focus on the medium and not so much the persons involved. I feel that "Catherine saga" at this point is too narrow - we just have a single video and we're not really sure she's the main impetus behind this revival. To me at least, it seems sorta a side note compared to bigger picture things like Chris finally trying to earn money through his art and embracing transgenderism. <br />
:Ideally, we'd name this after the fact but it's helpful to have a label for us to refer to the events now. Most of the sagas were named after the fact or it was extremely obvious what to name it after - Chris was seeing Ivy, pretty much everything he did involved Ivy, so it made sense to call that the Ivy saga. But we're not really seeing the same thing here with Catherine. We're different from Wikipedia in the sense that you as the users have influence in determining what this is called. In a way, original research is acceptable here mostly because there's not really formal institutions that study autistic manchildren for a living. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 14:41, 10 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
*I have added some details to the Catherine and Sonic sagas, but I think that you are right about combining the Facebook saga point. A good deal of information from Catherine is not really typical trolling, but further information on Chris's condition as a Tomgirl and his general repulsive self. It may be a good idea to combine the two into some sort of saga, rather than having two separate sections.[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 13:30, 2 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Is there an "Ebay" Saga going on right now? ==<br />
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Considering all of the ebay stuff that has been going on for a while, like the situation with Mr. Smith, the Tribalism art, and such, should it be considered a saga? It's long enough to be considered as saga, but I'm wondering it there was enough content to validate it being called a saga. -Fredinno, Feb 3, 2014.<br />
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*I think it would be best to make a Facebook Saga, as Champthom suggested above. Maybe Catherine could also be mentioned here too? And his return to his art. [[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 21:13, 5 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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*I disagree, but I'm beaten, 3 to 1. Oh well, I guess I'll combine those two together. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:01, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Tomgirl Saga vs Calling Out Saga ==<br />
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Should the Calling Out Saga be separated from the Tomgirl Saga? The two things, in my opinion, are very different from each other, and many people from the Cwcki Forums, including me, believe the two are different Sagas. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:14, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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*You are right, they are two different things, but I think the reason they have been put together is because it's part of Chris's Tomgirl phase. I don't really think Calling Out qualifies as a Saga in its own right, so, personally, I would argue against giving it its own section. I am assuming it was added to give a bit more volume to the Tomgirl Saga, but, now that we have more information on Chris's Tomgirl antics, we could replace Calling Out with something else. <br />
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*So, to link back to what we were talking about above, I guess maybe Catherine could go with Tomgirl - as Chris's first lesbian encounter. The eBay stuff could then go to a Facebook Saga because it marks a change in both Chris's personality, since he has become more withdrawn, and how he communicates, being far more paranoid and holding court only to a select few. Obviously, this withdrawal has also come about from Bob's death, and also why he is allegedly selling stuff on eBay because he claims to need the money more for him and Barb. So, here you can see a link between the change in Chris and ''why'' he has returned to making his artwork and selling stuff, but it also demonstrates a change in how trolling Chris has changed. Granted, he's still being trolled, but it's not as abrasive as it once was because it can only be done through eBay - again because Chris has cut off all contact.<br />
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*Anyway, if you see the links there that I'm thinking of, you'll understand why I want to merge the eBay Saga with Facebook, plus I don't really think enough happened for it to warrant a Saga in its own right, but I haven't seen the pages on the wiki to document it so I could be wrong on that point. Let me know how you see it and how you think Chris's recent shenanigans would be best documented. Once everyone has discussed it we will probably have a good idea of the most efficient way of categorizing his recent behavior into Sagas. Apologies for wall of text,[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 11:33, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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*Really, though I can agree with your statement that Ebay Saga should be merged with Facebook Saga, (since there were many miscellaneous Facebook posts important to Chrisdom and Christory, the two sometimes connect with each other via Chris, and the 'ebay saga' only contains 2 fiascos that were really funny). Catherine should probably be its own saga, in my opinion, due to that stuff being related directly to a new sweetheart, but I could understand why you want it to be included as a "Tomgirl Saga, Part 2" sort of thing. On the other hand, Calling Out really has a enough content in relation to it, to be a saga, but is too big simply to be left as not a part of any saga. Since it was cut short by Bob's death, it should be considered its own saga.<br />
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In summary, I believe we should merge Facebook and Ebay Sagas, maybe merge Tomgirl and Catherine, but decouple Calling out from Tomgirl. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 21:53, 7 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== The Boxing Day Saga ==<br />
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Should there be a separate saga for SONIC'S ARMS ARE NOT FREAKING BLUE!!!<br />
I know that the saga is older than what I will now call the "Boxing Day GameStop Spritzing", but it has a nice, poetic ring to it.<br />
--Troll-chan Sonichu, 05/03/2015<br />
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No, That's Sonic Boom Saga.<br />
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== Should the Tom Girl Saga end? ==<br />
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Since Chris has stated on facebook that she is no longer a male she is a transwoman, and a female, should the Tom Girl Saga come to a close? .--[[User:Sinistersnare]] 14:13, 7 March 2015 (PDT)<br />
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== Is the Financhu Crisis worthy of a Saga? ==<br />
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chris has been begging for money for a while now, and with the mortgage of around $100,000 that barbara has to pay, i doubt it will end anytime soon.<br />
should it be made its' own unique saga? --Kettleonwater 8th September 2016 10:46am<br />
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I think so. Chris may have begged in the past for sex and his PSN account, but I am seeing a pattern recently of him begging for money. The Financhu Crisis Saga -galxylax 13 September 2016 20:06 PST<br />
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== Just throwing it out there ==<br />
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I feel the next soon starting saga will almost undoubtedly be either The Trump Saga, or the Partyvan saga; since many have been reporting his archived death threats. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 22:55, 14 November 2016 (UTC)<br />
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It's hard to say now. On one hand, the anti-Trump vitriol has reached levels of hatefulness on par with classic Chris's anti-gay agenda, and Chris's return to issuing death threats suggests that he's taken quite an exception to Trump's election. On the other hand, Chris is so lazy that unless the death threats/hate rhetoric become a regular thing (a la Financhu Crisis) or he takes overt actions to advance his agenda (a la Sonic Boom Protests), the whole issue may blow over after Trump takes office. There's been an issue in the past with Christorians jumping the gun on declaring new sagas. Sometimes they've called them right, other times it's turned out to be nothing. Also, the fact that so many of Chris's death threats have already been reported, publicly exposed, and even tweeted straight to Trump's Twitter with no retaliatory action taken makes it doubtful that there will be a party van saga.--[[User:Ujirat|Ujirat]] ([[User talk:Ujirat|talk]]) 23:39, 18 January 2017 (UTC)<br />
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Yeah. I agree with Ujirat here. Wait and see before declaring the Pmurt Saga. This has the possibility to explode into one of the most interesting sagas since the golden age, but right now, there's really nothing of interest that occurred since Eid, Pmurt, Eid and Feelings of the election results. The fumes are there, all we need is a spark.<br />
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Maybe if Sonichu restarts, he'll include Trump as a villain and Clinton as a Christ like figure? I don't know. All we can do is wait and see (and prepare the popcorn).<br />
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-[[User:Windows OS|Windows OS]] ([[User talk:Windows OS|talk]]) 23:54, 18 January 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Edits to Megan and Game Place Sagas ==<br />
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Revised the Megan saga because it was described as the "first and longest" of the sagas when the Game Place saga ran a good six years longer than Megan's did. In the interest of the edit not being completely subtractive, the "longest saga" superlative was rewritten in the Game Place saga where it would be accurate. I suppose there's room for debate on it being the longest, though, since there is no exact date known as to when Chris started patronizing the Place, so it can easily be undone in that case. --[[User:Ujirat|Ujirat]] ([[User talk:Ujirat|talk]]) 01:09, 20 January 2017 (UTC)</div>
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<div>Add the sagas that we have from the [[List of Videos]] page and describe the overarching storylines in each. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 14:09, 19 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
*The current saga should be called the "Revalation" saga. --[[User:14recinez|14recinez]] 15:30, 14 September 2013 (EST)<br />
* Add information involving the Ebay stuff to the Facebook Saga section. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
* Add the 2014 sagas to the Sagas timeline. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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So basically what I tried to do so far is sum up every saga in 3 images. Is this at all helpful? I can upload colour versions instead if we prefer, but I thought this looked kind of good. I can also put all of them together to make a MEGASAGA sort of image that we can add to as more sagas become apparent. What do we want? Or delete them if you think they are gay. If they are not gay, then I will finish the rest tomorrow. ALSO: I can make a vertically oriented timeline (like from a history book) showing how they progress and overlap. Or horizontally, whatever we want really. Just tell me. For now, I need to sleep. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:25, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
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* I actually really like these. [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 03:38, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
:*I like them. Though I think that like, the subject of the saga should be in the center. Like, the Miyamoto saga, Reggie is in the middle when it really should be Miyamoto. If I may recommend one for Liquid, if there was a way to make it look like they're staring down each other, that'd be cool. Otherwise, nice work, I like the general idea. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:47, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
::*Your wish is my command. It is done. I think I got what you wanted for the Liquid saga too... Now what exactly? I can get started on a timeline. I guess I will work on making each subsection more introductory in the text too... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 20:49, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
::*So I have added some detail to give a bit more advanced insight on the sagas for this page. I hope it is helpful. Are there any other sagas that should be here? I assume not. What do we need to add to make this... complete... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:23, 25 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
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==Timeline==<br />
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So the timeline you see running here is one I made for this article. Problem, When I run it down the right side of the article it looks funny. At least I think it does. Try it. Should we put it there... or what? I will just work on the actual text of this article until we decide what to do about the imagery. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:33, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
*I haven't heard any opinions on this and they claimed to like it in IRC so I have it running down the right. Revert it if you like. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:41, 25 October 2009 (CET)<br />
:*I like it a lot too. Having it up and down isn't orthodox but it's well suited for the media. Very nice job. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)<br />
*I think it looks great, but I think the information is a bit wrong... the Megan Saga went on through the beginning of 2008 and into the ED and Adam Stackhouse affairs. Hell, there wouldn't be a Stackhouse Saga without Megan. Otherwise, it looks good. <br />
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==Gregg Mays saga==<br />
Not sure if we should consider it part of Clyde Cash saga but we should consider a Gregg Mays saga to include all this Gregg Mays stuff. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)<br />
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==Jack Thaddeus Saga, anyone?==<br />
Or does anyone think it's too early? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 03:42, 2 January 2010 (CET)<br />
* I was about to suggest the same thing. With the [[Kill de Jack|recent]] [[To Clyde and Jack|videos]] aimed at him, the [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call|three]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 2|phone]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 3|calls]] and the CWCipedia ad shenanigans, not to mention [[It's UGH!|previous]] [[Chris humps his PS3|antics]], there seems to be enough material to warrant a new saga. --'''[[User:Lime|<font color="limegreen">L</font>]][[User_talk:Lime|<font color="limegreen">i</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|<font color="limegreen">m</font>]][[nudes|<font color="limegreen">e</font>]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 05:17, 8 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
** Don't forget about Asperchu in the future. Seeing how dedicated Alec is with it so far (and Jack just started advertising his wiki in CWCipedia), a Saga for that is inevitable! --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 05:32, 8 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
*** And I think it has begun! --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 02:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
**** {{Asperchu}} [[Asperchu]] Saga. You like? --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 02:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
***** Very nice! Now how about Jack, anyone? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 02:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
***** Awesome job on the icon! --'''[[User:Lime|<font color="limegreen">L</font>]][[User_talk:Lime|<font color="limegreen">i</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|<font color="limegreen">m</font>]][[nudes|<font color="limegreen">e</font>]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 02:09, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
===Actually...===<br />
Looking at recent edits, someone was adding a "Homosexual ad saga" to this page but it was reverted. While not a proper saga, I'd say it's a sort of mini saga and it's part of the Chris narrative, as it leads into Asperchu saga. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:49, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not sure I'd call the homosexual ads a saga by itself, but part of a CWCipedia saga? I'm certainly not part of the inner circle, but I imagine more hi-jinks involving the CWCipedia are in store. [[User:Chris fangs|Chris fangs]] 21:54, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
*I reverted it. It wasn't a proper saga, no. Even if it could be considered one, the information wasn't presented well enough. I first reverted the changes made to the timeline PNG[http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:Timeline.png], which also wasn't up to par. There could be a lead-in to the Asperchu Saga, sure, but I would vote no on calling it a saga. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
*I re-reverted because you're a huge faggot have a nice day [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]<br />
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*Actually, I changed my mind. If someone could make a better, more convincing presentation of it, go ahead. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:*I agree that the presentation on the timeline sucks, and the name "Homosexual ad saga" does as well. I think Chris fangs is onto something about it being called "CWCipedia saga" since in a way, the Mailbag is a way of trolling Chris and CWCipedia in general sorta inadvertently trolls Chris. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:20, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
::*Well, it seems I've angered someone. Not my intentions, to be sure. Anyway, CWCipedia Saga has a nice ring to it and it's relevant, since the Mailbag is certainly a repository of ongoing trolling. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:28, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
::*Champthom, I'll leave it to you to revert the timeline image/Saga page or not. I don't wish to get into a revert war over Chris Chan. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:34, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::*I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that you're right but so is Nitrocore. The concept of a saga invoking CWCipedia, perhaps call it CWCipedia saga, is good or maybe Jack Thaddeus saga (though I'm aiming at the former) but you are correct in that the write up and the name at the time did kinda suck, and we still need to work on the timeline. For starters, we need to get in touch with the original creator of the timeline or maybe start from scratch. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:58, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
* Ha i win sucker, I actually like "Cwc saga" as well i was just adding stuff(unlike you) if you can combine it and possibly make it better with external links then I'm not bothered [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]<br />
::::*I went with the CWCipedia idea. It's a rough draft, but you get the idea. Nitro, if there is a next time, try not to act like a child. Also, sign your discussion edits with the timestamp. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 00:37, 16 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==The CWCki Saga, anyone?==<br />
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I was going to start this, but decided otherwise unless objects to it, but what we got here is the start of a third saga - CWCki Saga. Chris knows about the CWCki and now he wants to take control of it. You think we should start gathering information on this?--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:19, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
*Damn. It's barely 24 hrs in and we are already talking about a saga! I think it is a tad too early to talk about a saga. Outside of "The WallFlower Incident", we got mostly nothing. Let's wait a little to see where it will goes. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:*I agree. Luckily, we'll probably find out two days from now, when his ultimatum gets ignored to death. If nothing comes of it, then nothing comes of it. If he spazzes out and does something really stupid, like threatening legal action or starting an epic edit war, then yeah. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 05:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Vanessa Saga==<br />
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My old pet project, probably not long or significant enough, but some pretty good videos and logs came from that --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 07:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
*Vanessa saga is one of the unsung tales of the overarching CWC saga and it's sorry that it isn't currently reflected here. However, perhaps now in retrospect it seems more to be part of Ivy saga, though Vanessa saga had dynamic elements and whatnot. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== more saga sum up images ==<br />
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we need a saga image for asperchu (not tito yet) and the cwikipedia saga--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 02:19, 20 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Heres a quick one i made for the game place, just to throw out the idea, can't use it since it doesn't match the others<br />
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== Tito saga ==<br />
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'''In December 2009, Chris released a page from Sonichu 10, which revealed a girl named [[Lovely Weather]]. Many trolls were confused as to why Chris would create a fictional love interest when previous issues used real life girls. The confusion continued when Chris revealed he had a gal-pal during some of his Mailbags.'''<br />
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Is it just me or does this seem to suggest that "Lovely Weather" is connected to [[The Wallflower]]? If so, this text is incorrect as Chris didn't meet Wallflower until January at the latest. Srsly guys. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:50, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
* Okay, I'll admit - I wrote that bit when it seemed like there was a connection between Weather and Wallflower. I'll alter it so it won't seem that way.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 13:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==IRL Saga?==<br />
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It might be too early for this, but if he keeps up these public creeper antics, methinks an "IRL Saga" would be appropriate. --[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 16:12, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
* I always thought it would be better to call everything that's happened since he "left" the Internet the "CWC Exile Saga". But, still, IRL Saga's just as good.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 16:24, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
**How about 'Reality Saga'? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:48, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
***If we're going to do that, we might as well include the Love Quest as a saga, since this sounds pretty much like a repeat of those events. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 17:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
**** I understand the reasoning behind that, though a good chunk of the Love Quest happened online within specific sagas. Personally, the only issue I would see with such a saga (CWC Exile is a great title) is that it overlaps with The GAMe PLACe and the last bit of Surfshack Tito.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 01:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
***** I think, in a technical level, we're between sagas. We just simply have to wait and see what damn fool thing he does next. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 02:06, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Flipnote Hatena saga ==<br />
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Does it count as one yet? He's slowly cracking at the seams, and it could get worse. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 20:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
*It looks like it might form a saga as he goes along and breaks more Flipnote Waptena rules, so it's plausible. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 21:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
**Of course he's banned from uploading anything now. I think it was a bit short to count as a saga. A bit uneventful too, though that's just my thoughts on it. If everyone else thinks it could be considered it's own saga... Go for it.--[[User:Yoyoddd|Yoyoddd]] 10:07, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
***I look at this a bit like the Tito saga; very little actually was done to Chris, but it was his response to what happened that made it a saga. We have to wait and see how he reacts to the ban to see whether it's worthy or not. That's just my two cents though. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 10:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
****Maybe we should put "interim activities" as a separate category; nothing that fits the criteria for saga but still somewhat noteworthy. Chris being "off the internet" and on flipnote for a month could merit that. That way we could still fill out the periods between major sagas. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 14:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
*****Even if it doesn't count as a full-fledged "Saga" it was a pretty crazy two weeks. I'm not sure if he'll return to youtube as a result of his banning, but I'm sure he'll cap off the whole thing with an enraged complaint ''somewhere''.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 15:41, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==PS3 Saga?==<br />
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Before somebody already points it out, I know that the few destruction videos he put up doesn't count as a saga. I'm wondering if we should make a saga for the activities that lead to it's destruction. There's a lot of juicy info I'd like to catalog, but I don't know if it's officially over yet or not (And i also don't want to disrupt any trolling plans that may still be in motion). --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 15:04, 17 September 2010 (PDT)<br />
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==Missing Sagas==<br />
Why aren't the sagas caused by [[Vanessa_Saga|Joshua Martinez]] included on the saga list?<br />
*1) please sign your posts (it's four ~ in a row) 2) the stuff from Joshua Martinez is really part of Ivy saga. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
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==On Sagas==<br />
This isn't picking on anything that's going on here, but I was thinking and I think the term "saga" gets abused - not so much on here, mind you, but elsewhere but I think it sometimes spills over to the CWCki. <br />
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What is a saga? Like the article says, it's an overarching story in the life and times of Chris. For instance, let's take Miyamoto saga, which, also as the article says, what really started the whole "saga" thing. You have Chris and "Miyamoto" talking to each other over several weeks, and there's conflict between the two, then there's Reggie who gets involved, and then there's all the videos inbetween. If you watch a video from the saga without the context the saga arch provides, you're missing out on a lot. They're all intertwined, the content that is, and that's what the saga theme is all about, taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.<br />
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So what does this mean? You calling Chris is not "You calling Chris saga." Chris dressing up as a woman is not "Tomgirl saga." Seeing Chris at the mall is not "Chris at the mall saga." Chris does stuff, it doesn't need to fit in part of a narrative. It's sorta a chapter in the overarching saga that is Chris's life, but not a saga in itself. Secondly, I don't think sagas are really made. I think people expect to troll Chris and want some place on this page, wanting their own "Gigantic Attention Whore saga." Pretty much every saga wasn't intended to be a saga, it's not like they planned this all out, it's just going with the flow and it happens to have narrative to it. <br />
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I had more but I forgot what else I was going to say. But hopefully this will make sense and serve as a guide to what is a saga and what isn't, so much as how it should be included on the page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
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*Actually, while we're talking about sagas, I'd like to ask for a bit of clarification on how saga related articles are named. Recent sagas for instance are just documented in the article on the appropriate person. The article on the Ivy Saga is called [[Ivy]] and the article on the Liquid Saga is called [[Liquid Chris]]. But then there are articles which are literally called [[Miyamoto Saga]] or [[Vanessa Saga]], which are full of emails just dumped there incomprehensibly. And this is in spite of there actually being articles for [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] and [[Vanessa Hudgens]]. Don't get me wrong, I realize the need to keep the crap ton of emails separate from the main articles, but the naming convention is just odd. I'm not quite sure, but I'm willing to bet it's Clyde's fault. What is the official policy on naming saga articles? Should they all be named as "X" or as "X Saga"? And while we're on it, some sagas have a weird little template documenting all things related to them. Two I can name are [[:Template:BlancaSaga]] and [[:Template:MeganSaga]]. I don't think they're bad. They could use a little cleanup, but I do have a problem with the fact that some sagas have them and others don't. They could serve as a great way to sum up everything and point users in the direction of content relevant to each saga, but as it is right now, there's no consistency in which sagas have them. What should we do? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:29, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
:*Good points. In regards to the e-mails, I guess people consider the bulk of the saga the e-mails or IM chats behind them, but perhaps we could rename them to be "Miyamoto Saga e-mails" or "Vanessa Saga chats"? It's probably Clyde's fault, at least for the Miyamoto e-mails. As for the templates, they probably could use cleaning up and the reason why some do and some don't is because people haven't gotten around to doing them for other templates (which can be something you can work on, if you so please). Definitely, make templates for each saga, that'd be a great way to present information. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:46, 23 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
::*Well if you think that's something for me to work on then I suppose I could have a go at it. It'd make a change from all the sonichu shit that I've been doing recently. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:41, 24 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
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== Individual Saga pages ==<br />
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I didn't know where to put this suggestion, so I'm putting it here. I was thinking we can give each Saga its own page. The pages would go into more detail about the saga, a summary of the events, and a listing of videos, emails, etc. in order by date. This serves to make a description about all events in the Saga from beginning to end, as there is none on the CWCki. The closest there is to it is the timeline with all of the years and months, but often times there are events irrelevant to the Saga and events in other Sagas happening. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 16:47, 2 January 2012 (PST)<br />
* EDIT: I noticed there are articles called "Vanessa Saga" and more, but those aren't the type of formats I'm talking about. Those pages are only content dumps, but what I'm talking about is much more organized.<br />
* I made a [[Tomgirl Saga]] page. If there's a problem with it, or if the page is a bad idea, speak now or I'll write pages for the other sagas. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 09:56, 3 January 2012 (PST)<br />
*I still don't think that the whole Tomgirl thing is actually a saga, but I'll let other people debate that as that's mostly my opinion. The thing is, the articles about respective sagas tend to be in the page about the people involved. Like, most of the stuff with the Ivy saga is in the [[Ivy]] page, and the stuff about Liquid is on the [[Liquid Chris]] page. I see what you want to do and it does make sense but I think it might be redundant unless we totally rework these biographical articles so we're not saying the same stuff on two different pages.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:38, 4 January 2012 (PST)<br />
**I think that the question of whether or not every Saga deserves its own individual page should be decided on a case by case basis rather then collectively. I think that starting the article on the Tomgirl Saga was a good idea, but having articles such "Jackie Saga", "Blanca Saga" or "Julie Saga" will be redundant in my opinion. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 06:44, 4 January 2012 (PST)<br />
*** i agree, this page handles the simplified explanations and servers as a nice jumping off point. There is plenty blue here to get you started and if you need details about the saga then read the details linked in blue :)<br />
* I was thinking this myself. Not every saga needs a seperate page but sagas which involved a lot of interaction in the form of Youtube videos between two parties would benefit from a seperate entry. I'm especially thinking of the Liquid Chris/CWCivil war ordeal. One page or a group of pages with the video interaction between the two in chronological order would be very useful. Maybe the Asperchu saga also? I was taking a break from Chris during that period and am still not too clear on the chronology of events. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 09:06, 15 July 2012 (PDT)<br />
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== Second Exile saga? ==<br />
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Chris hasn't done anything of note lately. His therapist may have banned him from the internet, and is most likely doing his service or playing video games. This may go on for a while, and might be considered a saga.--[[User:Germanicus|Germanicus]] 14:13, 8 October 2012 (PDT)<br />
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- I disagree. A time without content, I feel, shouldn't be considered a saga.--[[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] 13:01, 3 Feburary 2014<br />
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== Regarding the Catherine Saga ==<br />
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I'll put the section back once the Catherine drama goes further. Like Champthom said before that sagas are "taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.", I say wait and see until we can confirm it. Right now, it's still early to claim a new saga. Not to mention sagas are abused to death. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 14:33, 10 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
*I'll just share some comments I made in the chat on the CWCki Forums on the matter. Like I've said, the saga really should just be a tool to provide a narrative to what happens with Chris in specific periods. We probably have what constitutes a saga now - Chris is active on Facebook, he apparently has a girlfriend, he's trying to make money off eBay and Kickstarter, he's claiming to be fully transgendered. I'm inclined to call this "Facebook saga" as I feel the characterization of this saga is Chris's interactions with people on Facebook. It's unusual as we mostly focus on people but I think in this case, it might make sense to focus on the medium and not so much the persons involved. I feel that "Catherine saga" at this point is too narrow - we just have a single video and we're not really sure she's the main impetus behind this revival. To me at least, it seems sorta a side note compared to bigger picture things like Chris finally trying to earn money through his art and embracing transgenderism. <br />
:Ideally, we'd name this after the fact but it's helpful to have a label for us to refer to the events now. Most of the sagas were named after the fact or it was extremely obvious what to name it after - Chris was seeing Ivy, pretty much everything he did involved Ivy, so it made sense to call that the Ivy saga. But we're not really seeing the same thing here with Catherine. We're different from Wikipedia in the sense that you as the users have influence in determining what this is called. In a way, original research is acceptable here mostly because there's not really formal institutions that study autistic manchildren for a living. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 14:41, 10 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
*I have added some details to the Catherine and Sonic sagas, but I think that you are right about combining the Facebook saga point. A good deal of information from Catherine is not really typical trolling, but further information on Chris's condition as a Tomgirl and his general repulsive self. It may be a good idea to combine the two into some sort of saga, rather than having two separate sections.[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 13:30, 2 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Is there an "Ebay" Saga going on right now? ==<br />
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Considering all of the ebay stuff that has been going on for a while, like the situation with Mr. Smith, the Tribalism art, and such, should it be considered a saga? It's long enough to be considered as saga, but I'm wondering it there was enough content to validate it being called a saga. -Fredinno, Feb 3, 2014.<br />
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*I think it would be best to make a Facebook Saga, as Champthom suggested above. Maybe Catherine could also be mentioned here too? And his return to his art. [[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 21:13, 5 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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*I disagree, but I'm beaten, 3 to 1. Oh well, I guess I'll combine those two together. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:01, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Tomgirl Saga vs Calling Out Saga ==<br />
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Should the Calling Out Saga be separated from the Tomgirl Saga? The two things, in my opinion, are very different from each other, and many people from the Cwcki Forums, including me, believe the two are different Sagas. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:14, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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*You are right, they are two different things, but I think the reason they have been put together is because it's part of Chris's Tomgirl phase. I don't really think Calling Out qualifies as a Saga in its own right, so, personally, I would argue against giving it its own section. I am assuming it was added to give a bit more volume to the Tomgirl Saga, but, now that we have more information on Chris's Tomgirl antics, we could replace Calling Out with something else. <br />
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*So, to link back to what we were talking about above, I guess maybe Catherine could go with Tomgirl - as Chris's first lesbian encounter. The eBay stuff could then go to a Facebook Saga because it marks a change in both Chris's personality, since he has become more withdrawn, and how he communicates, being far more paranoid and holding court only to a select few. Obviously, this withdrawal has also come about from Bob's death, and also why he is allegedly selling stuff on eBay because he claims to need the money more for him and Barb. So, here you can see a link between the change in Chris and ''why'' he has returned to making his artwork and selling stuff, but it also demonstrates a change in how trolling Chris has changed. Granted, he's still being trolled, but it's not as abrasive as it once was because it can only be done through eBay - again because Chris has cut off all contact.<br />
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*Anyway, if you see the links there that I'm thinking of, you'll understand why I want to merge the eBay Saga with Facebook, plus I don't really think enough happened for it to warrant a Saga in its own right, but I haven't seen the pages on the wiki to document it so I could be wrong on that point. Let me know how you see it and how you think Chris's recent shenanigans would be best documented. Once everyone has discussed it we will probably have a good idea of the most efficient way of categorizing his recent behavior into Sagas. Apologies for wall of text,[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 11:33, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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*Really, though I can agree with your statement that Ebay Saga should be merged with Facebook Saga, (since there were many miscellaneous Facebook posts important to Chrisdom and Christory, the two sometimes connect with each other via Chris, and the 'ebay saga' only contains 2 fiascos that were really funny). Catherine should probably be its own saga, in my opinion, due to that stuff being related directly to a new sweetheart, but I could understand why you want it to be included as a "Tomgirl Saga, Part 2" sort of thing. On the other hand, Calling Out really has a enough content in relation to it, to be a saga, but is too big simply to be left as not a part of any saga. Since it was cut short by Bob's death, it should be considered its own saga.<br />
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In summary, I believe we should merge Facebook and Ebay Sagas, maybe merge Tomgirl and Catherine, but decouple Calling out from Tomgirl. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 21:53, 7 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== The Boxing Day Saga ==<br />
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Should there be a separate saga for SONIC'S ARMS ARE NOT FREAKING BLUE!!!<br />
I know that the saga is older than what I will now call the "Boxing Day GameStop Spritzing", but it has a nice, poetic ring to it.<br />
--Troll-chan Sonichu, 05/03/2015<br />
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No, That's Sonic Boom Saga.<br />
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== Should the Tom Girl Saga end? ==<br />
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Since Chris has stated on facebook that she is no longer a male she is a transwoman, and a female, should the Tom Girl Saga come to a close? .--[[User:Sinistersnare]] 14:13, 7 March 2015 (PDT)<br />
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== Is the Financhu Crisis worthy of a Saga? ==<br />
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chris has been begging for money for a while now, and with the mortgage of around $100,000 that barbara has to pay, i doubt it will end anytime soon.<br />
should it be made its' own unique saga? --Kettleonwater 8th September 2016 10:46am<br />
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I think so. Chris may have begged in the past for sex and his PSN account, but I am seeing a pattern recently of him begging for money. The Financhu Crisis Saga -galxylax 13 September 2016 20:06 PST<br />
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== Just throwing it out there ==<br />
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I feel the next soon starting saga will almost undoubtedly be either The Trump Saga, or the Partyvan saga; since many have been reporting his archived death threats. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 22:55, 14 November 2016 (UTC)<br />
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It's hard to say now. On one hand, the anti-Trump vitriol has reached levels of hatefulness on par with classic Chris's anti-gay agenda, and Chris's return to issuing death threats suggests that he's taken quite an exception to Trump's election. On the other hand, Chris is so lazy that unless the death threats/hate rhetoric become a regular thing (a la Financhu Crisis) or he takes overt actions to advance his agenda (a la Sonic Boom Protests), the whole issue may blow over after Trump takes office. There's been an issue in the past with Christorians jumping the gun on declaring new sagas. Sometimes they've called them right, other times it's turned out to be nothing. Also, the fact that so many of Chris's death threats have already been reported, publicly exposed, and even tweeted straight to Trump's Twitter with no retaliatory action taken makes it doubtful that there will be a party van saga.--[[User:Ujirat|Ujirat]] ([[User talk:Ujirat|talk]]) 23:39, 18 January 2017 (UTC)<br />
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Yeah. I agree with Ujirat here. Wait and see before declaring the Pmurt Saga. This has the possibility to explode into one of the most interesting sagas since the golden age, but right now, there's really nothing of interest that occurred since Eid, Pmurt, Eid and Feelings of the election results. The fumes are there, all we need is a spark.<br />
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Maybe if Sonichu restarts, he'll include Trump as a villain and Clinton as a Christ like figure? I don't know. All we can do is wait and see (and prepare the popcorn).<br />
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-[[User:Windows OS|Windows OS]] ([[User talk:Windows OS|talk]]) 23:54, 18 January 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Edits to Megan and Game Place Sagas ==<br />
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Revised the Megan saga because it was described as the "first and longest" of the sagas when the Game Place saga ran a good six years longer than Megan's did. In the interest of the edit not being completely subtractive, the "longest saga" superlative was rewritten in the Game Place saga. I suppose there's room for debate on it being the longest, though, since there is no exact date known as to when Chris started patronizing the Place, so it can easily be undone in that case. --[[User:Ujirat|Ujirat]] ([[User talk:Ujirat|talk]]) 01:09, 20 January 2017 (UTC)</div>
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<div>Add the sagas that we have from the [[List of Videos]] page and describe the overarching storylines in each. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 14:09, 19 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
*The current saga should be called the "Revalation" saga. --[[User:14recinez|14recinez]] 15:30, 14 September 2013 (EST)<br />
* Add information involving the Ebay stuff to the Facebook Saga section. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
* Add the 2014 sagas to the Sagas timeline. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
==Changes==<br />
So basically what I tried to do so far is sum up every saga in 3 images. Is this at all helpful? I can upload colour versions instead if we prefer, but I thought this looked kind of good. I can also put all of them together to make a MEGASAGA sort of image that we can add to as more sagas become apparent. What do we want? Or delete them if you think they are gay. If they are not gay, then I will finish the rest tomorrow. ALSO: I can make a vertically oriented timeline (like from a history book) showing how they progress and overlap. Or horizontally, whatever we want really. Just tell me. For now, I need to sleep. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:25, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
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* I actually really like these. [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 03:38, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
:*I like them. Though I think that like, the subject of the saga should be in the center. Like, the Miyamoto saga, Reggie is in the middle when it really should be Miyamoto. If I may recommend one for Liquid, if there was a way to make it look like they're staring down each other, that'd be cool. Otherwise, nice work, I like the general idea. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:47, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
::*Your wish is my command. It is done. I think I got what you wanted for the Liquid saga too... Now what exactly? I can get started on a timeline. I guess I will work on making each subsection more introductory in the text too... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 20:49, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
::*So I have added some detail to give a bit more advanced insight on the sagas for this page. I hope it is helpful. Are there any other sagas that should be here? I assume not. What do we need to add to make this... complete... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:23, 25 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
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==Timeline==<br />
[[Image:Timeline.png|right]]<br />
So the timeline you see running here is one I made for this article. Problem, When I run it down the right side of the article it looks funny. At least I think it does. Try it. Should we put it there... or what? I will just work on the actual text of this article until we decide what to do about the imagery. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:33, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
*I haven't heard any opinions on this and they claimed to like it in IRC so I have it running down the right. Revert it if you like. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:41, 25 October 2009 (CET)<br />
:*I like it a lot too. Having it up and down isn't orthodox but it's well suited for the media. Very nice job. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)<br />
*I think it looks great, but I think the information is a bit wrong... the Megan Saga went on through the beginning of 2008 and into the ED and Adam Stackhouse affairs. Hell, there wouldn't be a Stackhouse Saga without Megan. Otherwise, it looks good. <br />
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==Gregg Mays saga==<br />
Not sure if we should consider it part of Clyde Cash saga but we should consider a Gregg Mays saga to include all this Gregg Mays stuff. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)<br />
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==Jack Thaddeus Saga, anyone?==<br />
Or does anyone think it's too early? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 03:42, 2 January 2010 (CET)<br />
* I was about to suggest the same thing. With the [[Kill de Jack|recent]] [[To Clyde and Jack|videos]] aimed at him, the [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call|three]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 2|phone]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 3|calls]] and the CWCipedia ad shenanigans, not to mention [[It's UGH!|previous]] [[Chris humps his PS3|antics]], there seems to be enough material to warrant a new saga. --'''[[User:Lime|<font color="limegreen">L</font>]][[User_talk:Lime|<font color="limegreen">i</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|<font color="limegreen">m</font>]][[nudes|<font color="limegreen">e</font>]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 05:17, 8 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
** Don't forget about Asperchu in the future. Seeing how dedicated Alec is with it so far (and Jack just started advertising his wiki in CWCipedia), a Saga for that is inevitable! --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 05:32, 8 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
*** And I think it has begun! --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 02:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
**** {{Asperchu}} [[Asperchu]] Saga. You like? --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 02:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
***** Very nice! Now how about Jack, anyone? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 02:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
***** Awesome job on the icon! --'''[[User:Lime|<font color="limegreen">L</font>]][[User_talk:Lime|<font color="limegreen">i</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|<font color="limegreen">m</font>]][[nudes|<font color="limegreen">e</font>]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 02:09, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
===Actually...===<br />
Looking at recent edits, someone was adding a "Homosexual ad saga" to this page but it was reverted. While not a proper saga, I'd say it's a sort of mini saga and it's part of the Chris narrative, as it leads into Asperchu saga. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:49, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not sure I'd call the homosexual ads a saga by itself, but part of a CWCipedia saga? I'm certainly not part of the inner circle, but I imagine more hi-jinks involving the CWCipedia are in store. [[User:Chris fangs|Chris fangs]] 21:54, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
*I reverted it. It wasn't a proper saga, no. Even if it could be considered one, the information wasn't presented well enough. I first reverted the changes made to the timeline PNG[http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:Timeline.png], which also wasn't up to par. There could be a lead-in to the Asperchu Saga, sure, but I would vote no on calling it a saga. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
*I re-reverted because you're a huge faggot have a nice day [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]<br />
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*Actually, I changed my mind. If someone could make a better, more convincing presentation of it, go ahead. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:*I agree that the presentation on the timeline sucks, and the name "Homosexual ad saga" does as well. I think Chris fangs is onto something about it being called "CWCipedia saga" since in a way, the Mailbag is a way of trolling Chris and CWCipedia in general sorta inadvertently trolls Chris. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:20, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
::*Well, it seems I've angered someone. Not my intentions, to be sure. Anyway, CWCipedia Saga has a nice ring to it and it's relevant, since the Mailbag is certainly a repository of ongoing trolling. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:28, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
::*Champthom, I'll leave it to you to revert the timeline image/Saga page or not. I don't wish to get into a revert war over Chris Chan. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:34, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::*I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that you're right but so is Nitrocore. The concept of a saga invoking CWCipedia, perhaps call it CWCipedia saga, is good or maybe Jack Thaddeus saga (though I'm aiming at the former) but you are correct in that the write up and the name at the time did kinda suck, and we still need to work on the timeline. For starters, we need to get in touch with the original creator of the timeline or maybe start from scratch. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:58, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
* Ha i win sucker, I actually like "Cwc saga" as well i was just adding stuff(unlike you) if you can combine it and possibly make it better with external links then I'm not bothered [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]<br />
::::*I went with the CWCipedia idea. It's a rough draft, but you get the idea. Nitro, if there is a next time, try not to act like a child. Also, sign your discussion edits with the timestamp. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 00:37, 16 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==The CWCki Saga, anyone?==<br />
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I was going to start this, but decided otherwise unless objects to it, but what we got here is the start of a third saga - CWCki Saga. Chris knows about the CWCki and now he wants to take control of it. You think we should start gathering information on this?--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:19, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
*Damn. It's barely 24 hrs in and we are already talking about a saga! I think it is a tad too early to talk about a saga. Outside of "The WallFlower Incident", we got mostly nothing. Let's wait a little to see where it will goes. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:*I agree. Luckily, we'll probably find out two days from now, when his ultimatum gets ignored to death. If nothing comes of it, then nothing comes of it. If he spazzes out and does something really stupid, like threatening legal action or starting an epic edit war, then yeah. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 05:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Vanessa Saga==<br />
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My old pet project, probably not long or significant enough, but some pretty good videos and logs came from that --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 07:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
*Vanessa saga is one of the unsung tales of the overarching CWC saga and it's sorry that it isn't currently reflected here. However, perhaps now in retrospect it seems more to be part of Ivy saga, though Vanessa saga had dynamic elements and whatnot. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== more saga sum up images ==<br />
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we need a saga image for asperchu (not tito yet) and the cwikipedia saga--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 02:19, 20 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Heres a quick one i made for the game place, just to throw out the idea, can't use it since it doesn't match the others<br />
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== Tito saga ==<br />
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'''In December 2009, Chris released a page from Sonichu 10, which revealed a girl named [[Lovely Weather]]. Many trolls were confused as to why Chris would create a fictional love interest when previous issues used real life girls. The confusion continued when Chris revealed he had a gal-pal during some of his Mailbags.'''<br />
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Is it just me or does this seem to suggest that "Lovely Weather" is connected to [[The Wallflower]]? If so, this text is incorrect as Chris didn't meet Wallflower until January at the latest. Srsly guys. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:50, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
* Okay, I'll admit - I wrote that bit when it seemed like there was a connection between Weather and Wallflower. I'll alter it so it won't seem that way.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 13:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==IRL Saga?==<br />
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It might be too early for this, but if he keeps up these public creeper antics, methinks an "IRL Saga" would be appropriate. --[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 16:12, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
* I always thought it would be better to call everything that's happened since he "left" the Internet the "CWC Exile Saga". But, still, IRL Saga's just as good.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 16:24, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
**How about 'Reality Saga'? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:48, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
***If we're going to do that, we might as well include the Love Quest as a saga, since this sounds pretty much like a repeat of those events. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 17:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
**** I understand the reasoning behind that, though a good chunk of the Love Quest happened online within specific sagas. Personally, the only issue I would see with such a saga (CWC Exile is a great title) is that it overlaps with The GAMe PLACe and the last bit of Surfshack Tito.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 01:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
***** I think, in a technical level, we're between sagas. We just simply have to wait and see what damn fool thing he does next. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 02:06, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Flipnote Hatena saga ==<br />
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Does it count as one yet? He's slowly cracking at the seams, and it could get worse. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 20:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
*It looks like it might form a saga as he goes along and breaks more Flipnote Waptena rules, so it's plausible. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 21:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
**Of course he's banned from uploading anything now. I think it was a bit short to count as a saga. A bit uneventful too, though that's just my thoughts on it. If everyone else thinks it could be considered it's own saga... Go for it.--[[User:Yoyoddd|Yoyoddd]] 10:07, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
***I look at this a bit like the Tito saga; very little actually was done to Chris, but it was his response to what happened that made it a saga. We have to wait and see how he reacts to the ban to see whether it's worthy or not. That's just my two cents though. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 10:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
****Maybe we should put "interim activities" as a separate category; nothing that fits the criteria for saga but still somewhat noteworthy. Chris being "off the internet" and on flipnote for a month could merit that. That way we could still fill out the periods between major sagas. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 14:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
*****Even if it doesn't count as a full-fledged "Saga" it was a pretty crazy two weeks. I'm not sure if he'll return to youtube as a result of his banning, but I'm sure he'll cap off the whole thing with an enraged complaint ''somewhere''.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 15:41, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==PS3 Saga?==<br />
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Before somebody already points it out, I know that the few destruction videos he put up doesn't count as a saga. I'm wondering if we should make a saga for the activities that lead to it's destruction. There's a lot of juicy info I'd like to catalog, but I don't know if it's officially over yet or not (And i also don't want to disrupt any trolling plans that may still be in motion). --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 15:04, 17 September 2010 (PDT)<br />
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==Missing Sagas==<br />
Why aren't the sagas caused by [[Vanessa_Saga|Joshua Martinez]] included on the saga list?<br />
*1) please sign your posts (it's four ~ in a row) 2) the stuff from Joshua Martinez is really part of Ivy saga. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
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==On Sagas==<br />
This isn't picking on anything that's going on here, but I was thinking and I think the term "saga" gets abused - not so much on here, mind you, but elsewhere but I think it sometimes spills over to the CWCki. <br />
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What is a saga? Like the article says, it's an overarching story in the life and times of Chris. For instance, let's take Miyamoto saga, which, also as the article says, what really started the whole "saga" thing. You have Chris and "Miyamoto" talking to each other over several weeks, and there's conflict between the two, then there's Reggie who gets involved, and then there's all the videos inbetween. If you watch a video from the saga without the context the saga arch provides, you're missing out on a lot. They're all intertwined, the content that is, and that's what the saga theme is all about, taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.<br />
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So what does this mean? You calling Chris is not "You calling Chris saga." Chris dressing up as a woman is not "Tomgirl saga." Seeing Chris at the mall is not "Chris at the mall saga." Chris does stuff, it doesn't need to fit in part of a narrative. It's sorta a chapter in the overarching saga that is Chris's life, but not a saga in itself. Secondly, I don't think sagas are really made. I think people expect to troll Chris and want some place on this page, wanting their own "Gigantic Attention Whore saga." Pretty much every saga wasn't intended to be a saga, it's not like they planned this all out, it's just going with the flow and it happens to have narrative to it. <br />
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I had more but I forgot what else I was going to say. But hopefully this will make sense and serve as a guide to what is a saga and what isn't, so much as how it should be included on the page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
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*Actually, while we're talking about sagas, I'd like to ask for a bit of clarification on how saga related articles are named. Recent sagas for instance are just documented in the article on the appropriate person. The article on the Ivy Saga is called [[Ivy]] and the article on the Liquid Saga is called [[Liquid Chris]]. But then there are articles which are literally called [[Miyamoto Saga]] or [[Vanessa Saga]], which are full of emails just dumped there incomprehensibly. And this is in spite of there actually being articles for [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] and [[Vanessa Hudgens]]. Don't get me wrong, I realize the need to keep the crap ton of emails separate from the main articles, but the naming convention is just odd. I'm not quite sure, but I'm willing to bet it's Clyde's fault. What is the official policy on naming saga articles? Should they all be named as "X" or as "X Saga"? And while we're on it, some sagas have a weird little template documenting all things related to them. Two I can name are [[:Template:BlancaSaga]] and [[:Template:MeganSaga]]. I don't think they're bad. They could use a little cleanup, but I do have a problem with the fact that some sagas have them and others don't. They could serve as a great way to sum up everything and point users in the direction of content relevant to each saga, but as it is right now, there's no consistency in which sagas have them. What should we do? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:29, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
:*Good points. In regards to the e-mails, I guess people consider the bulk of the saga the e-mails or IM chats behind them, but perhaps we could rename them to be "Miyamoto Saga e-mails" or "Vanessa Saga chats"? It's probably Clyde's fault, at least for the Miyamoto e-mails. As for the templates, they probably could use cleaning up and the reason why some do and some don't is because people haven't gotten around to doing them for other templates (which can be something you can work on, if you so please). Definitely, make templates for each saga, that'd be a great way to present information. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:46, 23 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
::*Well if you think that's something for me to work on then I suppose I could have a go at it. It'd make a change from all the sonichu shit that I've been doing recently. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:41, 24 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
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== Individual Saga pages ==<br />
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I didn't know where to put this suggestion, so I'm putting it here. I was thinking we can give each Saga its own page. The pages would go into more detail about the saga, a summary of the events, and a listing of videos, emails, etc. in order by date. This serves to make a description about all events in the Saga from beginning to end, as there is none on the CWCki. The closest there is to it is the timeline with all of the years and months, but often times there are events irrelevant to the Saga and events in other Sagas happening. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 16:47, 2 January 2012 (PST)<br />
* EDIT: I noticed there are articles called "Vanessa Saga" and more, but those aren't the type of formats I'm talking about. Those pages are only content dumps, but what I'm talking about is much more organized.<br />
* I made a [[Tomgirl Saga]] page. If there's a problem with it, or if the page is a bad idea, speak now or I'll write pages for the other sagas. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 09:56, 3 January 2012 (PST)<br />
*I still don't think that the whole Tomgirl thing is actually a saga, but I'll let other people debate that as that's mostly my opinion. The thing is, the articles about respective sagas tend to be in the page about the people involved. Like, most of the stuff with the Ivy saga is in the [[Ivy]] page, and the stuff about Liquid is on the [[Liquid Chris]] page. I see what you want to do and it does make sense but I think it might be redundant unless we totally rework these biographical articles so we're not saying the same stuff on two different pages.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:38, 4 January 2012 (PST)<br />
**I think that the question of whether or not every Saga deserves its own individual page should be decided on a case by case basis rather then collectively. I think that starting the article on the Tomgirl Saga was a good idea, but having articles such "Jackie Saga", "Blanca Saga" or "Julie Saga" will be redundant in my opinion. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 06:44, 4 January 2012 (PST)<br />
*** i agree, this page handles the simplified explanations and servers as a nice jumping off point. There is plenty blue here to get you started and if you need details about the saga then read the details linked in blue :)<br />
* I was thinking this myself. Not every saga needs a seperate page but sagas which involved a lot of interaction in the form of Youtube videos between two parties would benefit from a seperate entry. I'm especially thinking of the Liquid Chris/CWCivil war ordeal. One page or a group of pages with the video interaction between the two in chronological order would be very useful. Maybe the Asperchu saga also? I was taking a break from Chris during that period and am still not too clear on the chronology of events. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 09:06, 15 July 2012 (PDT)<br />
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== Second Exile saga? ==<br />
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Chris hasn't done anything of note lately. His therapist may have banned him from the internet, and is most likely doing his service or playing video games. This may go on for a while, and might be considered a saga.--[[User:Germanicus|Germanicus]] 14:13, 8 October 2012 (PDT)<br />
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- I disagree. A time without content, I feel, shouldn't be considered a saga.--[[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] 13:01, 3 Feburary 2014<br />
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== Regarding the Catherine Saga ==<br />
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I'll put the section back once the Catherine drama goes further. Like Champthom said before that sagas are "taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.", I say wait and see until we can confirm it. Right now, it's still early to claim a new saga. Not to mention sagas are abused to death. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 14:33, 10 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
*I'll just share some comments I made in the chat on the CWCki Forums on the matter. Like I've said, the saga really should just be a tool to provide a narrative to what happens with Chris in specific periods. We probably have what constitutes a saga now - Chris is active on Facebook, he apparently has a girlfriend, he's trying to make money off eBay and Kickstarter, he's claiming to be fully transgendered. I'm inclined to call this "Facebook saga" as I feel the characterization of this saga is Chris's interactions with people on Facebook. It's unusual as we mostly focus on people but I think in this case, it might make sense to focus on the medium and not so much the persons involved. I feel that "Catherine saga" at this point is too narrow - we just have a single video and we're not really sure she's the main impetus behind this revival. To me at least, it seems sorta a side note compared to bigger picture things like Chris finally trying to earn money through his art and embracing transgenderism. <br />
:Ideally, we'd name this after the fact but it's helpful to have a label for us to refer to the events now. Most of the sagas were named after the fact or it was extremely obvious what to name it after - Chris was seeing Ivy, pretty much everything he did involved Ivy, so it made sense to call that the Ivy saga. But we're not really seeing the same thing here with Catherine. We're different from Wikipedia in the sense that you as the users have influence in determining what this is called. In a way, original research is acceptable here mostly because there's not really formal institutions that study autistic manchildren for a living. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 14:41, 10 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
*I have added some details to the Catherine and Sonic sagas, but I think that you are right about combining the Facebook saga point. A good deal of information from Catherine is not really typical trolling, but further information on Chris's condition as a Tomgirl and his general repulsive self. It may be a good idea to combine the two into some sort of saga, rather than having two separate sections.[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 13:30, 2 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Is there an "Ebay" Saga going on right now? ==<br />
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Considering all of the ebay stuff that has been going on for a while, like the situation with Mr. Smith, the Tribalism art, and such, should it be considered a saga? It's long enough to be considered as saga, but I'm wondering it there was enough content to validate it being called a saga. -Fredinno, Feb 3, 2014.<br />
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*I think it would be best to make a Facebook Saga, as Champthom suggested above. Maybe Catherine could also be mentioned here too? And his return to his art. [[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 21:13, 5 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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*I disagree, but I'm beaten, 3 to 1. Oh well, I guess I'll combine those two together. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:01, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Tomgirl Saga vs Calling Out Saga ==<br />
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Should the Calling Out Saga be separated from the Tomgirl Saga? The two things, in my opinion, are very different from each other, and many people from the Cwcki Forums, including me, believe the two are different Sagas. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:14, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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*You are right, they are two different things, but I think the reason they have been put together is because it's part of Chris's Tomgirl phase. I don't really think Calling Out qualifies as a Saga in its own right, so, personally, I would argue against giving it its own section. I am assuming it was added to give a bit more volume to the Tomgirl Saga, but, now that we have more information on Chris's Tomgirl antics, we could replace Calling Out with something else. <br />
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*So, to link back to what we were talking about above, I guess maybe Catherine could go with Tomgirl - as Chris's first lesbian encounter. The eBay stuff could then go to a Facebook Saga because it marks a change in both Chris's personality, since he has become more withdrawn, and how he communicates, being far more paranoid and holding court only to a select few. Obviously, this withdrawal has also come about from Bob's death, and also why he is allegedly selling stuff on eBay because he claims to need the money more for him and Barb. So, here you can see a link between the change in Chris and ''why'' he has returned to making his artwork and selling stuff, but it also demonstrates a change in how trolling Chris has changed. Granted, he's still being trolled, but it's not as abrasive as it once was because it can only be done through eBay - again because Chris has cut off all contact.<br />
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*Anyway, if you see the links there that I'm thinking of, you'll understand why I want to merge the eBay Saga with Facebook, plus I don't really think enough happened for it to warrant a Saga in its own right, but I haven't seen the pages on the wiki to document it so I could be wrong on that point. Let me know how you see it and how you think Chris's recent shenanigans would be best documented. Once everyone has discussed it we will probably have a good idea of the most efficient way of categorizing his recent behavior into Sagas. Apologies for wall of text,[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 11:33, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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*Really, though I can agree with your statement that Ebay Saga should be merged with Facebook Saga, (since there were many miscellaneous Facebook posts important to Chrisdom and Christory, the two sometimes connect with each other via Chris, and the 'ebay saga' only contains 2 fiascos that were really funny). Catherine should probably be its own saga, in my opinion, due to that stuff being related directly to a new sweetheart, but I could understand why you want it to be included as a "Tomgirl Saga, Part 2" sort of thing. On the other hand, Calling Out really has a enough content in relation to it, to be a saga, but is too big simply to be left as not a part of any saga. Since it was cut short by Bob's death, it should be considered its own saga.<br />
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In summary, I believe we should merge Facebook and Ebay Sagas, maybe merge Tomgirl and Catherine, but decouple Calling out from Tomgirl. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 21:53, 7 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== The Boxing Day Saga ==<br />
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Should there be a separate saga for SONIC'S ARMS ARE NOT FREAKING BLUE!!!<br />
I know that the saga is older than what I will now call the "Boxing Day GameStop Spritzing", but it has a nice, poetic ring to it.<br />
--Troll-chan Sonichu, 05/03/2015<br />
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No, That's Sonic Boom Saga.<br />
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== Should the Tom Girl Saga end? ==<br />
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Since Chris has stated on facebook that she is no longer a male she is a transwoman, and a female, should the Tom Girl Saga come to a close? .--[[User:Sinistersnare]] 14:13, 7 March 2015 (PDT)<br />
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== Is the Financhu Crisis worthy of a Saga? ==<br />
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chris has been begging for money for a while now, and with the mortgage of around $100,000 that barbara has to pay, i doubt it will end anytime soon.<br />
should it be made its' own unique saga? --Kettleonwater 8th September 2016 10:46am<br />
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I think so. Chris may have begged in the past for sex and his PSN account, but I am seeing a pattern recently of him begging for money. The Financhu Crisis Saga -galxylax 13 September 2016 20:06 PST<br />
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== Just throwing it out there ==<br />
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I feel the next soon starting saga will almost undoubtedly be either The Trump Saga, or the Partyvan saga; since many have been reporting his archived death threats. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 22:55, 14 November 2016 (UTC)<br />
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It's hard to say now. On one hand, the anti-Trump vitriol has reached levels of hatefulness on par with classic Chris's anti-gay agenda, and Chris's return to issuing death threats suggests that he's taken quite an exception to Trump's election. On the other hand, Chris is so lazy that unless the death threats/hate rhetoric become a regular thing (a la Financhu Crisis) or he takes overt actions to advance his agenda (a la Sonic Boom Protests), the whole issue may blow over after Trump takes office. There's been an issue in the past with Christorians jumping the gun on declaring new sagas. Sometimes they've called them right, other times it's turned out to be nothing. Also, the fact that so many of Chris's death threats have already been reported, publicly exposed, and even tweeted straight to Trump's Twitter with no retaliatory action taken makes it doubtful that there will be a party van saga.--[[User:Ujirat|Ujirat]] ([[User talk:Ujirat|talk]]) 23:39, 18 January 2017 (UTC)<br />
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Yeah. I agree with Ujirat here. Wait and see before declaring the Pmurt Saga. This has the possibility to explode into one of the most interesting sagas since the golden age, but right now, there's really nothing of interest that occurred since Eid, Pmurt, Eid and Feelings of the election results. The fumes are there, all we need is a spark.<br />
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Maybe if Sonichu restarts, he'll include Trump as a villain and Clinton as a Christ like figure? I don't know. All we can do is wait and see (and prepare the popcorn).<br />
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-[[User:Windows OS|Windows OS]] ([[User talk:Windows OS|talk]]) 23:54, 18 January 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Edits to Megan and Game Place Sagas ==<br />
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Revised the Megan saga because it was described as the "first and longest" of the sagas when the Game Place saga ran a good six years longer than Megan's did. In the interest of the edit not being completely subtractive, the "longest saga" superlative was rewritten in the Game Place saga. I suppose there's room for debate on it being the longest, though, since there is no exact date known as to when Chris started patronizing the Place, so it can easily be undone in that case.</div>
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A '''saga''' (from the Old Norse ''sögur'') is an overall story arc of events.<br />
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In the world of [[Chris]], the term is used to describe an on-going trolling effort or other similar series of events that produces considerable drama over a period of time. Sometimes taking place over the course of months, other times taking place over the course of a few weeks. Since he was discovered online and found to have many hot buttons that made him susceptible to entrapment, Chris has been perpetually embroiled in some saga or other. More often than not, he is trapped in more than one saga at a time or found to be quickly jumping from the end of one to the beginning of the next. The term first came into widespread use with the [[Miyamoto Saga]] and has since been used to describe the overall events in a time period (similar to the term "dynasty"). <br />
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The exact origin of the term "saga" being used to refer to these events in Chris's life is, as of yet, unknown. However, some argue that the usage may have originated with [[Vivian Gee]]'s [[audiobook]] project.<br />
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==List of Sagas: Pre-1st Exile==<br />
===Megan Saga (''Summer 2005 - 18 March 2008'')===<br />
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The first saga in the story of Christian Weston Chandler. From 2005 to 18 March 2008, this told the story of Chris and his longest and closest relationship with a girl, Megan Schroeder, leading into Chris's first encounter with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] and Megan discovering the depths of Chris's madness. It began with a chance meeting at a ''[[Pokémon]] TCG'' League meeting at [[The GAMe PLACe]], which progressed into inappropriate touching and ended with shocking [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|hand-drawn pornography]] that was an embarrassment for all parties involved...excluding Chris. <br />
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===Adam Stackhouse Saga (''June 2007 - 4 August 2007'')===<br />
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In June 2007, Chris entered and attempted to win a [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|contest]] in order to win Megan's heart (more or less her china too) , only to be beaten by a much superior entry made by one Adam Stackhouse. The saga resulted in [[CWC is Angry|madman]]-style threats and several angry e-mails and posts to contest organizers. Chris would rage for quite some time before deciding enough was enough. This was also the last time a saga was inadvertently caused by an unsuspecting member of the public. From this time on, [[trolls]] would control the content.<br />
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===ED Saga (''November 2007 - 14 April 2011'')===<br />
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{{main|Encyclopedia Dramatica}}<br />
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In November 2007, trolls would discover Chris and create a page about him on ED. Chris would initially think that they just got his information wrong, but as time would go on, Chris would reveal the true depths of his insanity, destroying his friendship with Megan Schroeder and becoming the epic lolcow we know him to be. Were it not for this article showing how susceptible he was to trolling and how [[Autism|divinely retarded]] he could be, Chris may have just been another dumbass with no life, and probably would have been more or less forgotten by now. To this day, ED remains a thorn in his side which he must constantly address to those new to his life. Further to this, he still maintains they are out to do him harm.<br />
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===Blanca Saga (''August 2008 - 21 October 2008'')===<br />
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Around August 2008, Chris would meet Blanca Weiss, making her his first Internet sweetheart. Aside from being the first sweetheart, she also proved how [[Captain's Log, Stardate September 13th, 2008|tenacious and strange]] Chris could be about relationships, revealing several [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 9th, 2008|quirks and oddities that he felt were somehow appropriate to mention]] to someone he believed loved him. It also showed how useless any [[white knight]]ing efforts could be. In the span of two months, Blanca (actually three trolls working in tandem) would release the infamous pictures of Chris naked, then obtain Chris's [[medallions]] and film a video of them cutting one up and [[Fire|setting it ablaze]].<br />
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===Jimmy Hill Saga (''mid/late 2008'')===<br />
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At the same time Chris was dealing with Blanca, he was hit with another troll attack as he was led to believe that a man known as Jimmy Hill was using the Sonichu name and character to make money off of him in Europe. The thought of someone making money from his true and original creation led him to [[Captain's Log, Stardate Columbus Day, 2008|stress out and provide proof]] of the [[Copyright|infringement]]. Those attacks would end around the same time the Blanca Saga ended.<br />
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===Clyde Cash Saga ''(December 2008 - Around 2010, Possibly Ongoing )''===<br />
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In 2008, Chris encountered a new troll named Clyde Cash, who went on a months-long trolling spree to get back at the autistic wonder for supposedly causing his [[Ryan Cash|brother's suicide]]. The saga would result in the revelation of a [[The Miscreants|top secret organization]] hellbent on preventing the manchild from losing his virginity. It only ended with the apparent death of its creator.<br />
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However, in [[September 2009]] Chris resumed his war against Clyde Cash after discovering that he and another supposed troll, [[Gregg Mays]], were one and the same person. In the process, he made numerous videos attempting to blackmail the man, going so far as to mock a [[Twin Falling Towers|national tragedy]].<br />
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===PandaHalo Saga (''mid/late 2008 - February 2009'')===<br />
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When Chris realized Blanca was a troll, he would move on to PandaHalo as his new sweetheart. The saga came to a quick and abrupt end when he found out that she was supposedly found to be bearing the child of Clyde Cash, conceived through rape. Unsurprisingly, the ever-gullible Chris would quickly abandon Panda and she would (presumably) die in the Australian [[Brushfire Video|brushfires]], despite living miles away from the incident. She would end up giving trolls the [[Scrapbook of Fail]] and [[Slideshow]].<br />
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===Miyamoto Saga (''January 2009 - 10 February 2009'')===<br />
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In the beginning of January 2009, Chris would be confronted by a troll posing as [[Nintendo]] developer [[Shigeru Miyamoto]], claiming he would attempt to try to make his ''Sonichu'' game fantasy a reality. Unfortunately, Chris proved to be nothing more than a couch potato, and his ineptitude resulted in horrible delays and stalls to the project's advancement. In the end, "[[Reggie Fils-Aimé]]" shut down the entire project with a scathing letter. This trolling encounter would have Chris give trolls a PowerPoint project that talked in great length about [[Chris and his ego|himself]]...and very little about his game.<br />
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===Julie Saga (''February 2009 - March 2009'')===<br />
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Arguably ''the'' most divisive and controversial out of Chris's trolls. In February 2009 to early March 2009, Chris's latest sweetheart would be Julie, who was in actuality a 13-year-old troll named [[BlueSpike]]. In this brief timeframe, BlueSpike would release the infamous [[sex tape]] and then torture Chris in many ways in the infamous [[Julie Reveals Herself]] chat, where he forced Chris to declare [[BILLY MAYS]] mayor of [[CWCville]] and destroy his second medallion by forcing him to shove it up the dumper. However, BlueSpike's total and utter control over Chris would lead to a schism between trolls, leading to the creation of the [[PVCC (message board)|PVCC]] and this very wiki.<br />
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===Ivy Saga (''March 2009 - July 2009'')===<br />
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In March 2009, a girl named Ivy decided to impress a friend by asking Chris for a video shout-out. She didn't know what would come later; his crush towards her would lead him to create 3 special comics and two music videos, a practical spurt of work that wouldn't be surpassed for awhile. The saga also revealed Chris at his [[I am devoted to My Sweetest Ivy|creepiest]] [[CWC's Message for Ivy|yet]], scarring many trolls and Christorians. The saga also resulted in a [[CWC's ¨It's All Coming Back To Me¨|proposal of marriage]]. Despite the work spurt, the saga would come to an abrupt end thanks to a combination of troll interference from [[Joshua Martinez]] and interference from [[Bob Chandler]] and [[Rocky Shoemaker]], leading to Ivy's (fabricated) suicide.<br />
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===Vanessa Saga (''April 2009 - May 2009'')===<br />
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In [[April 2009]], troll, and fellow [[James Madison University|speech therapy]] attendee, [[Joshua Martinez]] succeeded in getting Chris to believe that the ''High School Musical'' actress and pop star [[Vanessa Hudgens]] was in contact with him, through Joshua's AIM, in retaliation for Chris's horrible attempt at getting [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|ED]] to [[Vanessa_Saga#Email_to_Joshua|troll him]] like Chris, himself, had been trolled. Chris would create videos to show that he was movie-star material, going so far as to [[Matthew 5:27, CWC Confessions|cheat]] on his current [[troll|true and honest]] [[Ivy|sweetheart]]. Predictably, [[Chris and reality|he wasn't]] exactly the type Vanessa was looking for.<br />
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This [[Vanessa Saga|saga]] goes to show that even the most gullible of things can get by Chris, even when the perceived truth is a [[Weening|horrible]] [[Autism|excuse]] of ammunition against the poor manchild, which just shows how desperate he may be for [[Love Quest|romantic attention]].<br />
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===Liquid Chris Saga (''June 21, 2009 - 10 November 2009'')===<br />
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In July 2009, Chris came up with a plan to try getting the trolls off his back. He [[Rollin' and Trollin'|faked a revelation]] that he was apparently a troll himself who is the complete opposite of Chris in real life. Along then came the TRUE and HONEST Christian Weston Chandler, which got the other Chris (at this point nicknamed [[Ian Brandon Anderson]] and Solid Chris) really pent up with rage. Ian would challenge Chris to a sing-off, with the TRUE and HONEST CWC proving himself the victor in the end. The appearance of this other Chris would pressure the other into churning out more comics than he had before, currently heading for the completion of [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]], something that many believed would never happen due to the interference of many trolls.<br />
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Later, Liquid would return to continue on his quest to get rid of this faker. In the process of this new entry to the saga, Ian and Chris would battle over the heart of Chris's true love, [[Kacey]]. In the end, after a [[Kacey calls|long]] [[Father Call|series]] [[Kacey and Liquid Call|of]] [[The End for Real|calls]] that proved Ian to be unworthy of her love, the real Chris would win out and marry Kacey. Liquid's YouTube account would eventually close on 27 July 2011.<br />
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===CWCipedia Saga (''4 May 2009 – 26 June 2010'')===<br />
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In early June 2009, Chris was given his own wiki to upload his comics and blog about his personal life, safe from the trolls who instantly dive at his other web pages and hack them. It doubled as a source for the [[CWCki]] to draw many of Chris's latest failures from, making it his best friend and his worst enemy.<br />
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On 19 [[November 2009]], perhaps one of the greatest features the wiki introduced was the [[Mailbag]], in which a dump of all [[fan]] e-mails sent to the admin's address could be answered by Chris, for all to see. This feature provided insight into how Chris responds to trolls through e-mail about his views on, for example, homosexuality, GodJesus, autism, etc.<br />
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After 23 November 2009, advertisements linking to porn sites, gay rights organizations, information on Asperger's syndrome, and the [[Asperchu|Asperpedia]] took residence on the CWCipedia, paid for by trolls. Eventually, Alec, the creator of Asperchu, paid Jack Thaddeus to replace most, if not all, of the ads with ads for Asperpedia. Chris had [[Address to my Cwcipedia SysOp|complained]] [[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence|repeatedly]] to the SysOp of the Wiki about these ads, which would have paid for the site until the end of 2010, pending negotiations.<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=User_talk:ChrisChanSonichu</ref> All of this had "stressed" Chris out to the point of uploading videos of himself screaming [[death threats]] upon the advertisers' heads, and creating a separate, stress-free, ad-free front page.<br />
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This saga would lead to the site being shut down twice in a row, both due to copyright infringement, and would lead to the death of [[Simonla Rosechu]] in the most humiliating way - death by exploding toilet.<br />
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The Asperpedia team would continue to vandalize and hijack CWCipedia in a variety of ways until it finally collapsed in May, and Chris finally abandoned the site after already making numerous claims that he'd quit the Internet forever. After Mao moved in to fill the void, he passed ownership to [[Alec]] and [[Vivian Gee]], wherein they took over the site and the rights to Sonichu to begin ''Sonichu'' Season 2, where ultimately, on 26 [[June 2010]], the entire site would be terminated along with the entirety of the original 110mb server.<br />
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===Asperchu Saga (''November 2009 - 30 August 2011'')===<br />
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In late November 2009, an artist named Alec Benson Leary started a new series called ''Asperchu'', starring the titular Electric Hedgehog Pokemon. Chris had spent most of December ignoring ''Asperchu'' and its popularity before finally exploding with rage, claiming the series as nothing more than fanfiction and a parody. The popularity of ''Asperchu'', combined with Chris's continuing downward spiral that is [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], has led many of Chris's fans to abandon ''Sonichu'' and go to ''Asperchu''.<br />
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Most of the saga has been spent with Chris raging at not just Alec, but also [[Evan]], Sean, and Asperpedia admin Mao over their usage of their characters and how they mock him. As well, Chris has been dealing with Evan over the usage of Simonla Rosechu, with Chris going so far as to deny reality and substitute it with his own.<br />
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In terms of productivity, it has given us ''Sonichu'' #10, which showcases Chris going all out in trying to get rid of everything he hates, including homosexuality and trolls. In that same book, Chris kills all four trolls involved in this saga as retaliation for making him kill Simonla Rosechu. Also, [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Calls|nine phone calls]] have been leaked. These phone calls show Alec attempting to get through to Chris and his way of thinking and Chris fighting tooth and nail not to change at all.<br />
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In the aftermath of the saga, Evan ceased his ''Simonchu'' comic, proud to have Simonla removed, Alec and Sean continued their respective comics, and Mao continues to poke and jab at Chris. And while the saga had for the most part died down, Asperpedia continued to harass its rival CWCipedia, either by placing new ads, vandalizing it, or shutting it down altogether. One of the post-trial ads even precipitated Chris's falling out with [[Jackie e-mails|Jackie]].<br />
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Alec Benson Leary would later be [[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher|called out]] by Chris in 2011, and his identity was "revealed" as Christopher Paul Whitney, followed by Chris [[Chris and Health|sloppily devouring a cheap microwavable pizza]]. This later turned out to be fake as the ''real'' Christopher Paul Whitney made a response to Chris and essentially confirmed he was not Alec.<br />
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===Surfshack Tito Saga (''2 March 2010 - 10 August 2011'')===<br />
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Sometime in January 2010, Chris met and fell in love with [[The Wallflower]], hoping she would be the one who'd end his streak of being a [[virgin with rage]]. On 9 March 2010, Chris would release a ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]'' video of a stage based off a book he was helping write with his gal-pal...and release her name in the process. Dedicated trolls used the information to discover the gal-pal's identity, but decided to let the [[lulz]] spread naturally. The next day, however, a troll revealed the information to the gal-pal, and while one set of lulz was stopped, another one was set into motion.<br />
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The troll, calling himself Surfshack Tito, claimed responsibility for not only hacking his PSN accounts for the umpteenth time, but also stealing The Wallflower from Chris. Chris, in response, threatened to go all out and seemingly try to murder Tito, threatening him with a [[pocket knife]], attacking him with [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|racial slurs]], and flashing his [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|underwear]] while wearing a Scottish kilt. At the same time, Chris discovered and declared war on the CWCki, demanding that all pages involving himself, his friends and family be altered to suit his needs. To put it bluntly, Chris's attack on the CWCki fell utterly short.<br />
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The creativity here has been utterly stunted, especially after The Wallflower left him. He has gone on to blame his fans for wanting him to make more comics and compared them to the trolls that have tormented him. He has also vowed to leave the Internet forever, though he ended up reshowing his face 36 hours after his vow...<br />
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Echoes of this saga would be eventually heard in [[August 2011]] when, after announcing his glorious comeback to the Internet, Chris claimed to have discovered the true identity of Tito and tried to blackmail him using this information. Tito eventually [[Calling Out "Tito" - Don#Tito's official response|gave in]] to his demands on 9 August, which Chris [[Re: Don, and ReCalling Out "Thorg" - Jeremy|later acknowledged and accepted]].<br />
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=== The GAMe PLACe Saga (''pre-2005 - June 2014'')===<br />
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Currently the longest saga in Christory. For a long time, Chris had been visiting The GAMe PLACe on a regular basis. It was here that Chris would meet Megan herself, as well as [[Lucas]] and [[Mimms]], two people who would deliver a number of intel over Chris during his time there. He also participated in the ''[[Pokemon TCG]]'' League, using his own poorly made decks. However, Chris was a pain in the ass to store manager [[Michael Snyder]], and by August 2008, tired of Chris terrorizing various [[niggos|patrons]], yelling at children, bogarting the TV and being an all-round pain, Michael would finally ban Chris from the store, embarrassing him and his mother in the process. It wouldn't be the end, however.<br />
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On multiple occasions, Chris returned to the store despite Michael's insistence that he never come back. He tried emails, sneaking in, and [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place|pleading]] on [[YouTube]], but nothing worked. The first time he attempted (unsuccessfully, of course) to lift his ban in person was with a prepared, [[Chris and remorse|faux-apologetic speech]]. When that failed, he stormed out angrily and called Michael a [[Chris and race|JEW]], then attempted to rally his "fanbase" and get them [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|to troll him]]. [[6 June 2010|The next occasion]] was much more disturbing. He claimed he was trying to take a picture of Michael [[CWC is Angry|to shoot at]], but was caught in the act and was chased in the parking lot. Nearly running over Michael and his daughter, eventually the [[Jerkops]] got involved, but they did not arrest him. Michael accused him of trying to take [[pedofork|pictures of his daughter]]. Whether it's true or not, it's [[Kacey|confirmed]] that Chris has stalker tendencies.<br />
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The saga was revived in October 2011, when Chris and [[Barb|his mother]] visited the GAMe PLACe, and [[28 October 2011|an incident occurred]]. Exact details of events remain unknown, but charges such as assaulting a law enforcement official and property damage of more than $1000 were brought. Barbara was sentenced to community service and two years of probation. Chris was sentenced to community service, one year of probation, and mandatory [[Chris and Reality|psychiatric]] treatment and evaluation. They must also pay Michael Snyder's medical expenses.<br />
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Being the longest saga to date, it's little wonder why Barb believes it's at the center of all the trolling.<br />
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Finally, on 4 [[April 2013]], Chris posted on [[Facebook]], ''"I, Christian Weston Chandler, fully never ever, forever, want to have anything to do with the Game and Hobby PLace."'' However, this would later be proven dishonest when [[October 2014|6 months later]] he made an angry post on Facebook where he pins all of the blame onto Megan. In the post, he claims that Megan had been plotting with a GAMe PLACe employee to set up everything to get him banned, from the photo being taken by Mimms and Lucas to Megan "pretending" to kiss a "homosexual jerk", thus leading to him getting banned forever. He then goes on to say that he'll continue to curse the GAMe PLACe and Megan until she apologizes for what she's done. His plans were soon foiled in June 2014, however, when it was revealed on the [[Kiwi Farms]] that the GAMe PLACe was shut down for good. Regardless, he still holds a grudge against Mike.<br />
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==1st Exile Sagas==<br />
===The CWC Exile Saga (''20 March 2010 - 29 August 2010'')===<br />
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After Chris lost The Wallflower and fought with Surfshack Tito, an outside force attempted to push Chris away from the Internet. No less than five times, Chris has boldly claimed that he has abandoned the Internet and smugly told his detractors that they should go outside and live their lives, advice Chris should have followed ''years'' ago. However, Chris still latched onto the Internet as much as he could, trying to find ways to sneak in without the force discovering him.<br />
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Trolls would end up discovering Chris dancing like a dying turkey at [[Fridays After Five]], then discover that he had set up shop at [[Flipnote Hatena]], where he tried to spread his sick and twisted thoughts to younger, innocent people before being shut down. However, the thing that would finally bring Chris back to the Internet and end his exile would be [[The MovingForward videos|the destruction of his beloved Life Upgrade]]. At his own hands, no less!<br />
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==Post 1st Exile/Pre 2nd Exile==<br />
===Jackie Saga (''April 5, 2010 - November 26, 2010'')===<br />
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Following the fallout of The Wallflower incident, Chris pulled himself away from the Internet, only for him to meet and begin conversing to a woman named Jackie. Meeting her at [[The Hook Cafe]], the two began conversing through [[Jackie Emails|e-mails]], revealing the rationale in Chris's attempts to get back into The GAMe PLACe and showing [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV|he's still incredibly disturbing]]. However, Chris broke off his relationship with her after she attempted to get him to change his life for the better.<br />
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Around [[September 2010]], Jackie and Chris were confirmed to have attempted to try again with a relationship, with Chris creating [[100_2265|even]] [[ECV 00002|more]] [[Pregnant Act|disturbing]] [[Don'tPintheOop|videos]] in the process. A third party--[[Lars]] McNulty, Jackie's ex-boyfriend--stepped in by the end of September, prompting Chris to release several videos attacking his newfound enemy. Video updates became increasingly bizarre, but still occurred regularly until the end of [[October 2010|October]].<br />
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By [[November 2010|November]], the leaked correspondence showed that Jackie was getting increasing impatient as Chris kept failing to fulfill her requests, while Chris made up a lot of lame excuses for why he could not deliver on them, all while continuously begging Jackie to have sex with him. On November 26, Jackie would send Chris the latest in a string of e-mails in which she criticized him for his laziness and unwillingness when it came to pay a more active part in relationships, and how he, despite of this, kept begging her for sex. Chris stopped responding at this point, putting an end to the saga.<br />
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===[[Tomgirl Saga]] (''28 April 2011 - ongoing, Honestly Who Knows When It'll End'')===<br />
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In Early/mid-2011, Chris's exile from the Internet continued, and his mental state deteriorated. Some leaked evidence of [[Wikipedia:Transvestitism|transvestitism]] surfaced in [[April 2011|April]], and he later joined the [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]] forum, where his posts showed that Chris and sanity were only vague acquaintances. However, as of 2014, Chris is once again openly cross-dressing, against Barb's wishes (She has openly fought Chris over his new found "passion" for cross dressing as stated by Chris) .<br />
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===Call Out Saga (''06 August 2011 - 01 September 2011'')===<br />
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During the beginning of August, Chris began to release videos as an attempt to get some sort of reprisal out of the trolls. Chris warned the<br />
trolls that if they didn't meet his demands on the deadline Chris had set for them, then Chris would leak information that he believed to be<br />
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===Catherine Saga (''9 July 2014 - 14 December 2014'')===<br />
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{{main|2014 Anonymous Sweetheart|Catherine E-mails|Catherine}}<br />
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With his newly acquired feminine wiles from his transition to a Tomgirl, Chris managed to attract a sweetheart who would be his first lesbian romance. In the summer of 2014, Chris would reveal he had found a new sweetheart, whose identity he managed to surprisingly conceal for period of time. Later, he would [[I Love You, Catherine|reveal]] that her name was Catherine. Predictably, she turned out to be a troll, who revealed much about Chris having met with him twice. According to Catherine, his [[Catherine#The Date|behavior had not improved]] since the sexual harassment in the early days of the Megan Saga, and neither had the Chandlers's [[Rental House|comprehension of basic sanitation]]. In addition to Catherine's observation on her personal encounters, Chris also announced he had got a piercing on his [[Un-clit|perineum]], meaning this Saga provides some more detail on Chris's disturbing new features as a Tomgirl.<br />
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===Sonic Boom Saga (''3 September 2014 - 15 October 2015'')===<br />
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This Saga began with Chris grumbling on [[Facebook]] about the announcement of the latest [[Sonic]] game, ''[[Wikipedia: Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric|Sonic Boom]]''. Chris wasn't alone in his discontent; many of his Facebook friends expressed disapproval about the deteriorating quality of the Sonic games. What made Chris unique in his irritation, is that the fact that Chris took umbrage at the fact Sonic's arms had been changed from flesh-colored to blue. <br />
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This baffled most of his white knights, with [[William Elliott Waterman]] trying to explain just how ludicrous Chris's demands to Sega to revert back to blue were, especially considering ''Sonic Boom'' was not part of the ''Sonic'' canon. The fact that Sega had no control in the design of Sonic's arms did not deter him and, thanks to his white knights who unwaveringly encouraged him, he began to protest. Initially, his protest against the "Blue-Armed Bandit" took the form of Facebook boycott groups, petitions, and [[Death Threats|angry messages]] on Sega Facebook pages.<br />
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On [[26 December 2014|Boxing Day]], however, this Saga came into bloom, culminating in Chris's second pending court case. Despite warnings from even his most loyal white knights, Chris had decided to take it upon himself to bring the protest into the real world. He went into his local GameStops and vandalized the display cases, including stores he had [[List of places that have banned Chris|previously been banned from]]. It was during his visit to one of these stores that had banned Chris that resulted in his arrest on Boxing Day. Chris had been seen and asked to leave by the [[manajerks|management]]. After initially ignoring their requests he made his way towards the exit and, whilst on the way out, maced an employee, who hadn't been involved in his removal. As a result, Chris spent the weekend in jail, only to have Barb bail him out afterwards.<br />
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Despite this, he continues to go on a tard rage over Sonic's blue arms, calling out Kengle because he owns a ''comic'' with blue-armed Sonic, sending glitterbombs to Sega, and buying a Sonic Boom doll just to rip its arms off.<br />
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Later though, Chris claims victory in the blue arms debacle, due to Sonic the Hedgehog being his non-blue-armed form in Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games. He says this is the final update for the group, but only time will tell if he's telling the truth.<br />
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Ultimately, after six days in court, Chris was found guilty on 15 October 2015 for the GameStop incident and was fined $541 along with a 180-day probation. Thus, the Blue Arms Saga ends (or has it?)<br />
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===Selling Out Saga (''3 July 2014 - 8 June 2016'')===<br />
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Although this Saga began during the Sonic Boom Saga, it has ultimately outlasted it. Chris realized during this Saga that he could make significantly large amounts of [[money]] by selling his own products, including Medallions and freshly-customized [[Sonichu Amiibo]]s. This Saga is also notable for featuring the return of frequent videos of Chris, plus the return of some aspects of his Classic Chris personality that were thought to have been put to one side. However, Chris's laziness got the best of him (again) and he failed to ship out multiple orders, causing the store to be shut down on 8 June 2016, ending this saga.<br />
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===Financhu Saga (''12 April 2016 - Present'')===<br />
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Coined by the members of the [[Kiwi Farms]], this saga began when Chris released [[Please, Donate|a video]] asking for donations in exchange for gifts. Then, he cut out the gifts, and when his Etsy shop was closed, resorted to straight begging, [[Women Only Need Apply - No STD's|prostitution]], and [[By random request; I still need money, please|video]] [[Update 20160718|requests]]; all while continuing to buy over $1,000 worth of toys and only selling [[Update 20160718|'''THREE POKEMON CARDS''']] since this saga's beginning, and putting various worthless junk on eBay for exorbitant prices, showing the full extent of Chris and Barb's financial incompetency. His begging also goes to the point of [[August 2016 Facebook posts#Who wants to pay our mortgage?!|asking on Facebook]] for someone to pay his mortgage. This also shows Chris's ego, since he [[Announcement 06292016|treats his monetary problems that he caused as a charity]].<br />
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==The Future==<br />
If anything remains clear, it is that Chris is incapable of applying past events to current ones. Given this, it is likely that Chris will be enduring one saga or another until the day he dies.<br />
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==See also==<br />
*''[[Excel Saga]]''<br />
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A '''saga''' (from the Old Norse ''sögur'') is an overall story arc of events.<br />
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In the world of [[Chris]], the term is used to describe an on-going trolling effort or other similar series of events that produces considerable drama over a period of time. Sometimes taking place over the course of months, other times taking place over the course of a few weeks. Since he was discovered online and found to have many hot buttons that made him susceptible to entrapment, Chris has been perpetually embroiled in some saga or other. More often than not, he is trapped in more than one saga at a time or found to be quickly jumping from the end of one to the beginning of the next. The term first came into widespread use with the [[Miyamoto Saga]] and has since been used to describe the overall events in a time period (similar to the term "dynasty"). <br />
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The exact origin of the term "saga" being used to refer to these events in Chris's life is, as of yet, unknown. However, some argue that the usage may have originated with [[Vivian Gee]]'s [[audiobook]] project.<br />
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==List of Sagas: Pre-1st Exile==<br />
===Megan Saga (''Summer 2005 - 18 March 2008'')===<br />
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The first saga in the story of Christian Weston Chandler. From 2005 to 18 March 2008, this told the story of Chris and his longest and closest relationship with a girl, Megan Schroeder, leading into Chris's first encounter with [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] and Megan discovering the depths of Chris's madness. It began with a chance meeting at a ''[[Pokémon]] TCG'' League meeting at [[The GAMe PLACe]], which progressed into inappropriate touching and ended with shocking [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|hand-drawn pornography]] that was an embarrassment for all parties involved...excluding Chris. <br />
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===Adam Stackhouse Saga (''June 2007 - 4 August 2007'')===<br />
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In June 2007, Chris entered and attempted to win a [[Chop Chop Master Onion's Rap Showdown|contest]] in order to win Megan's heart (more or less her china too) , only to be beaten by a much superior entry made by one Adam Stackhouse. The saga resulted in [[CWC is Angry|madman]]-style threats and several angry e-mails and posts to contest organizers. Chris would rage for quite some time before deciding enough was enough. This was also the last time a saga was inadvertently caused by an unsuspecting member of the public. From this time on, [[trolls]] would control the content.<br />
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===ED Saga (''November 2007 - 14 April 2011'')===<br />
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In November 2007, trolls would discover Chris and create a page about him on ED. Chris would initially think that they just got his information wrong, but as time would go on, Chris would reveal the true depths of his insanity, destroying his friendship with Megan Schroeder and becoming the epic lolcow we know him to be. Were it not for this article showing how susceptible he was to trolling and how [[Autism|divinely retarded]] he could be, Chris may have just been another dumbass with no life, and probably would have been more or less forgotten by now. To this day, ED remains a thorn in his side which he must constantly address to those new to his life. Further to this, he still maintains they are out to do him harm.<br />
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===Blanca Saga (''August 2008 - 21 October 2008'')===<br />
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Around August 2008, Chris would meet Blanca Weiss, making her his first Internet sweetheart. Aside from being the first sweetheart, she also proved how [[Captain's Log, Stardate September 13th, 2008|tenacious and strange]] Chris could be about relationships, revealing several [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 9th, 2008|quirks and oddities that he felt were somehow appropriate to mention]] to someone he believed loved him. It also showed how useless any [[white knight]]ing efforts could be. In the span of two months, Blanca (actually three trolls working in tandem) would release the infamous pictures of Chris naked, then obtain Chris's [[medallions]] and film a video of them cutting one up and [[Fire|setting it ablaze]].<br />
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===Jimmy Hill Saga (''mid/late 2008'')===<br />
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At the same time Chris was dealing with Blanca, he was hit with another troll attack as he was led to believe that a man known as Jimmy Hill was using the Sonichu name and character to make money off of him in Europe. The thought of someone making money from his true and original creation led him to [[Captain's Log, Stardate Columbus Day, 2008|stress out and provide proof]] of the [[Copyright|infringement]]. Those attacks would end around the same time the Blanca Saga ended.<br />
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===Clyde Cash Saga ''(December 2008 - Around 2010, Possibly Ongoing )''===<br />
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In 2008, Chris encountered a new troll named Clyde Cash, who went on a months-long trolling spree to get back at the autistic wonder for supposedly causing his [[Ryan Cash|brother's suicide]]. The saga would result in the revelation of a [[The Miscreants|top secret organization]] hellbent on preventing the manchild from losing his virginity. It only ended with the apparent death of its creator.<br />
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However, in [[September 2009]] Chris resumed his war against Clyde Cash after discovering that he and another supposed troll, [[Gregg Mays]], were one and the same person. In the process, he made numerous videos attempting to blackmail the man, going so far as to mock a [[Twin Falling Towers|national tragedy]].<br />
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===PandaHalo Saga (''mid/late 2008 - February 2009'')===<br />
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When Chris realized Blanca was a troll, he would move on to PandaHalo as his new sweetheart. The saga came to a quick and abrupt end when he found out that she was supposedly found to be bearing the child of Clyde Cash, conceived through rape. Unsurprisingly, the ever-gullible Chris would quickly abandon Panda and she would (presumably) die in the Australian [[Brushfire Video|brushfires]], despite living miles away from the incident. She would end up giving trolls the [[Scrapbook of Fail]] and [[Slideshow]].<br />
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===Miyamoto Saga (''January 2009 - 10 February 2009'')===<br />
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In the beginning of January 2009, Chris would be confronted by a troll posing as [[Nintendo]] developer [[Shigeru Miyamoto]], claiming he would attempt to try to make his ''Sonichu'' game fantasy a reality. Unfortunately, Chris proved to be nothing more than a couch potato, and his ineptitude resulted in horrible delays and stalls to the project's advancement. In the end, "[[Reggie Fils-Aimé]]" shut down the entire project with a scathing letter. This trolling encounter would have Chris give trolls a PowerPoint project that talked in great length about [[Chris and his ego|himself]]...and very little about his game.<br />
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===Julie Saga (''February 2009 - March 2009'')===<br />
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Arguably ''the'' most divisive and controversial out of Chris's trolls. In February 2009 to early March 2009, Chris's latest sweetheart would be Julie, who was in actuality a 13-year-old troll named [[BlueSpike]]. In this brief timeframe, BlueSpike would release the infamous [[sex tape]] and then torture Chris in many ways in the infamous [[Julie Reveals Herself]] chat, where he forced Chris to declare [[BILLY MAYS]] mayor of [[CWCville]] and destroy his second medallion by forcing him to shove it up the dumper. However, BlueSpike's total and utter control over Chris would lead to a schism between trolls, leading to the creation of the [[PVCC (message board)|PVCC]] and this very wiki.<br />
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===Ivy Saga (''March 2009 - July 2009'')===<br />
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In March 2009, a girl named Ivy decided to impress a friend by asking Chris for a video shout-out. She didn't know what would come later; his crush towards her would lead him to create 3 special comics and two music videos, a practical spurt of work that wouldn't be surpassed for awhile. The saga also revealed Chris at his [[I am devoted to My Sweetest Ivy|creepiest]] [[CWC's Message for Ivy|yet]], scarring many trolls and Christorians. The saga also resulted in a [[CWC's ¨It's All Coming Back To Me¨|proposal of marriage]]. Despite the work spurt, the saga would come to an abrupt end thanks to a combination of troll interference from [[Joshua Martinez]] and interference from [[Bob Chandler]] and [[Rocky Shoemaker]], leading to Ivy's (fabricated) suicide.<br />
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===Vanessa Saga (''April 2009 - May 2009'')===<br />
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{{main|Vanessa Hudgens|Vanessa Saga}}<br />
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In [[April 2009]], troll, and fellow [[James Madison University|speech therapy]] attendee, [[Joshua Martinez]] succeeded in getting Chris to believe that the ''High School Musical'' actress and pop star [[Vanessa Hudgens]] was in contact with him, through Joshua's AIM, in retaliation for Chris's horrible attempt at getting [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|ED]] to [[Vanessa_Saga#Email_to_Joshua|troll him]] like Chris, himself, had been trolled. Chris would create videos to show that he was movie-star material, going so far as to [[Matthew 5:27, CWC Confessions|cheat]] on his current [[troll|true and honest]] [[Ivy|sweetheart]]. Predictably, [[Chris and reality|he wasn't]] exactly the type Vanessa was looking for.<br />
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This [[Vanessa Saga|saga]] goes to show that even the most gullible of things can get by Chris, even when the perceived truth is a [[Weening|horrible]] [[Autism|excuse]] of ammunition against the poor manchild, which just shows how desperate he may be for [[Love Quest|romantic attention]].<br />
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===Liquid Chris Saga (''June 21, 2009 - 10 November 2009'')===<br />
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{{main|Liquid Chris}}<br />
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In July 2009, Chris came up with a plan to try getting the trolls off his back. He [[Rollin' and Trollin'|faked a revelation]] that he was apparently a troll himself who is the complete opposite of Chris in real life. Along then came the TRUE and HONEST Christian Weston Chandler, which got the other Chris (at this point nicknamed [[Ian Brandon Anderson]] and Solid Chris) really pent up with rage. Ian would challenge Chris to a sing-off, with the TRUE and HONEST CWC proving himself the victor in the end. The appearance of this other Chris would pressure the other into churning out more comics than he had before, currently heading for the completion of [[Sonichu 9|''Sonichu'' #9]], something that many believed would never happen due to the interference of many trolls.<br />
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Later, Liquid would return to continue on his quest to get rid of this faker. In the process of this new entry to the saga, Ian and Chris would battle over the heart of Chris's true love, [[Kacey]]. In the end, after a [[Kacey calls|long]] [[Father Call|series]] [[Kacey and Liquid Call|of]] [[The End for Real|calls]] that proved Ian to be unworthy of her love, the real Chris would win out and marry Kacey. Liquid's YouTube account would eventually close on 27 July 2011.<br />
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===CWCipedia Saga (''4 May 2009 – 26 June 2010'')===<br />
[[Image:The CWCipedia Saga.jpg]]<br />
{{main|CWCipedia}}<br />
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In early June 2009, Chris was given his own wiki to upload his comics and blog about his personal life, safe from the trolls who instantly dive at his other web pages and hack them. It doubled as a source for the [[CWCki]] to draw many of Chris's latest failures from, making it his best friend and his worst enemy.<br />
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On 19 [[November 2009]], perhaps one of the greatest features the wiki introduced was the [[Mailbag]], in which a dump of all [[fan]] e-mails sent to the admin's address could be answered by Chris, for all to see. This feature provided insight into how Chris responds to trolls through e-mail about his views on, for example, homosexuality, GodJesus, autism, etc.<br />
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After 23 November 2009, advertisements linking to porn sites, gay rights organizations, information on Asperger's syndrome, and the [[Asperchu|Asperpedia]] took residence on the CWCipedia, paid for by trolls. Eventually, Alec, the creator of Asperchu, paid Jack Thaddeus to replace most, if not all, of the ads with ads for Asperpedia. Chris had [[Address to my Cwcipedia SysOp|complained]] [[ChrisChanSonichu and WikiSysop correspondence|repeatedly]] to the SysOp of the Wiki about these ads, which would have paid for the site until the end of 2010, pending negotiations.<ref>http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=User_talk:ChrisChanSonichu</ref> All of this had "stressed" Chris out to the point of uploading videos of himself screaming [[death threats]] upon the advertisers' heads, and creating a separate, stress-free, ad-free front page.<br />
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This saga would lead to the site being shut down twice in a row, both due to copyright infringement, and would lead to the death of [[Simonla Rosechu]] in the most humiliating way - death by exploding toilet.<br />
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The Asperpedia team would continue to vandalize and hijack CWCipedia in a variety of ways until it finally collapsed in May, and Chris finally abandoned the site after already making numerous claims that he'd quit the Internet forever. After Mao moved in to fill the void, he passed ownership to [[Alec]] and [[Vivian Gee]], wherein they took over the site and the rights to Sonichu to begin ''Sonichu'' Season 2, where ultimately, on 26 [[June 2010]], the entire site would be terminated along with the entirety of the original 110mb server.<br />
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===Asperchu Saga (''November 2009 - 30 August 2011'')===<br />
[[Image:The Asperchu Saga.jpg]]<br />
{{main|Asperchu}}<br />
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In late November 2009, an artist named Alec Benson Leary started a new series called ''Asperchu'', starring the titular Electric Hedgehog Pokemon. Chris had spent most of December ignoring ''Asperchu'' and its popularity before finally exploding with rage, claiming the series as nothing more than fanfiction and a parody. The popularity of ''Asperchu'', combined with Chris's continuing downward spiral that is [[Sonichu 10|''Sonichu'' #10]], has led many of Chris's fans to abandon ''Sonichu'' and go to ''Asperchu''.<br />
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Most of the saga has been spent with Chris raging at not just Alec, but also [[Evan]], Sean, and Asperpedia admin Mao over their usage of their characters and how they mock him. As well, Chris has been dealing with Evan over the usage of Simonla Rosechu, with Chris going so far as to deny reality and substitute it with his own.<br />
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In terms of productivity, it has given us ''Sonichu'' #10, which showcases Chris going all out in trying to get rid of everything he hates, including homosexuality and trolls. In that same book, Chris kills all four trolls involved in this saga as retaliation for making him kill Simonla Rosechu. Also, [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Calls|nine phone calls]] have been leaked. These phone calls show Alec attempting to get through to Chris and his way of thinking and Chris fighting tooth and nail not to change at all.<br />
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In the aftermath of the saga, Evan ceased his ''Simonchu'' comic, proud to have Simonla removed, Alec and Sean continued their respective comics, and Mao continues to poke and jab at Chris. And while the saga had for the most part died down, Asperpedia continued to harass its rival CWCipedia, either by placing new ads, vandalizing it, or shutting it down altogether. One of the post-trial ads even precipitated Chris's falling out with [[Jackie e-mails|Jackie]].<br />
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Alec Benson Leary would later be [[Calling Out "Alec Benson Leary" - Christopher|called out]] by Chris in 2011, and his identity was "revealed" as Christopher Paul Whitney, followed by Chris [[Chris and Health|sloppily devouring a cheap microwavable pizza]]. This later turned out to be fake as the ''real'' Christopher Paul Whitney made a response to Chris and essentially confirmed he was not Alec.<br />
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===Surfshack Tito Saga (''2 March 2010 - 10 August 2011'')===<br />
[[Image:The Surfshack Tito Saga.jpg]]<br />
{{Main|Surfshack Tito}}<br />
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Sometime in January 2010, Chris met and fell in love with [[The Wallflower]], hoping she would be the one who'd end his streak of being a [[virgin with rage]]. On 9 March 2010, Chris would release a ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]'' video of a stage based off a book he was helping write with his gal-pal...and release her name in the process. Dedicated trolls used the information to discover the gal-pal's identity, but decided to let the [[lulz]] spread naturally. The next day, however, a troll revealed the information to the gal-pal, and while one set of lulz was stopped, another one was set into motion.<br />
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The troll, calling himself Surfshack Tito, claimed responsibility for not only hacking his PSN accounts for the umpteenth time, but also stealing The Wallflower from Chris. Chris, in response, threatened to go all out and seemingly try to murder Tito, threatening him with a [[pocket knife]], attacking him with [[Chris Drops the N-Bomb|racial slurs]], and flashing his [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS|underwear]] while wearing a Scottish kilt. At the same time, Chris discovered and declared war on the CWCki, demanding that all pages involving himself, his friends and family be altered to suit his needs. To put it bluntly, Chris's attack on the CWCki fell utterly short.<br />
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The creativity here has been utterly stunted, especially after The Wallflower left him. He has gone on to blame his fans for wanting him to make more comics and compared them to the trolls that have tormented him. He has also vowed to leave the Internet forever, though he ended up reshowing his face 36 hours after his vow...<br />
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Echoes of this saga would be eventually heard in [[August 2011]] when, after announcing his glorious comeback to the Internet, Chris claimed to have discovered the true identity of Tito and tried to blackmail him using this information. Tito eventually [[Calling Out "Tito" - Don#Tito's official response|gave in]] to his demands on 9 August, which Chris [[Re: Don, and ReCalling Out "Thorg" - Jeremy|later acknowledged and accepted]].<br />
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=== The GAMe PLACe Saga (''pre-2005 - June 2014'')===<br />
[[File:Game Place.jpg]]<br />
{{main|The GAMe PLACe|Michael Snyder}}<br />
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For a long time, Chris had been visiting The GAMe PLACe on a regular basis. It was here that Chris would meet Megan herself, as well as [[Lucas]] and [[Mimms]], two people who would deliver a number of intel over Chris during his time there. He also participated in the ''[[Pokemon TCG]]'' League, using his own poorly made decks. However, Chris was a pain in the ass to store manager [[Michael Snyder]], and by August 2008, tired of Chris terrorizing various [[niggos|patrons]], yelling at children, bogarting the TV and being an all-round pain, Michael would finally ban Chris from the store, embarrassing him and his mother in the process. It wouldn't be the end, however.<br />
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On multiple occasions, Chris returned to the store despite Michael's insistence that he never come back. He tried emails, sneaking in, and [[Apology to Game & Hobby Place|pleading]] on [[YouTube]], but nothing worked. The first time he attempted (unsuccessfully, of course) to lift his ban in person was with a prepared, [[Chris and remorse|faux-apologetic speech]]. When that failed, he stormed out angrily and called Michael a [[Chris and race|JEW]], then attempted to rally his "fanbase" and get them [[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean|to troll him]]. [[6 June 2010|The next occasion]] was much more disturbing. He claimed he was trying to take a picture of Michael [[CWC is Angry|to shoot at]], but was caught in the act and was chased in the parking lot. Nearly running over Michael and his daughter, eventually the [[Jerkops]] got involved, but they did not arrest him. Michael accused him of trying to take [[pedofork|pictures of his daughter]]. Whether it's true or not, it's [[Kacey|confirmed]] that Chris has stalker tendencies.<br />
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The saga was revived in October 2011, when Chris and [[Barb|his mother]] visited the GAMe PLACe, and [[28 October 2011|an incident occurred]]. Exact details of events remain unknown, but charges such as assaulting a law enforcement official and property damage of more than $1000 were brought. Barbara was sentenced to community service and two years of probation. Chris was sentenced to community service, one year of probation, and mandatory [[Chris and Reality|psychiatric]] treatment and evaluation. They must also pay Michael Snyder's medical expenses.<br />
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Being the longest saga to date, it's little wonder why Barb believes it's at the center of all the trolling.<br />
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Finally, on 4 [[April 2013]], Chris posted on [[Facebook]], ''"I, Christian Weston Chandler, fully never ever, forever, want to have anything to do with the Game and Hobby PLace."'' However, this would later be proven dishonest when [[October 2014|6 months later]] he made an angry post on Facebook where he pins all of the blame onto Megan. In the post, he claims that Megan had been plotting with a GAMe PLACe employee to set up everything to get him banned, from the photo being taken by Mimms and Lucas to Megan "pretending" to kiss a "homosexual jerk", thus leading to him getting banned forever. He then goes on to say that he'll continue to curse the GAMe PLACe and Megan until she apologizes for what she's done. His plans were soon foiled in June 2014, however, when it was revealed on the [[Kiwi Farms]] that the GAMe PLACe was shut down for good. Regardless, he still holds a grudge against Mike.<br />
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==1st Exile Sagas==<br />
===The CWC Exile Saga (''20 March 2010 - 29 August 2010'')===<br />
[[File:Exile.jpg]]<br />
{{main|Rocky Shoemaker|Fridays After Five|Flipnote Hatena}}<br />
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After Chris lost The Wallflower and fought with Surfshack Tito, an outside force attempted to push Chris away from the Internet. No less than five times, Chris has boldly claimed that he has abandoned the Internet and smugly told his detractors that they should go outside and live their lives, advice Chris should have followed ''years'' ago. However, Chris still latched onto the Internet as much as he could, trying to find ways to sneak in without the force discovering him.<br />
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Trolls would end up discovering Chris dancing like a dying turkey at [[Fridays After Five]], then discover that he had set up shop at [[Flipnote Hatena]], where he tried to spread his sick and twisted thoughts to younger, innocent people before being shut down. However, the thing that would finally bring Chris back to the Internet and end his exile would be [[The MovingForward videos|the destruction of his beloved Life Upgrade]]. At his own hands, no less!<br />
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==Post 1st Exile/Pre 2nd Exile==<br />
===Jackie Saga (''April 5, 2010 - November 26, 2010'')===<br />
[[Image:JackieSaga.jpg]]<br />
{{main|Jackie}}<br />
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Following the fallout of The Wallflower incident, Chris pulled himself away from the Internet, only for him to meet and begin conversing to a woman named Jackie. Meeting her at [[The Hook Cafe]], the two began conversing through [[Jackie Emails|e-mails]], revealing the rationale in Chris's attempts to get back into The GAMe PLACe and showing [[For J-R's Eyes Only.MOV|he's still incredibly disturbing]]. However, Chris broke off his relationship with her after she attempted to get him to change his life for the better.<br />
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Around [[September 2010]], Jackie and Chris were confirmed to have attempted to try again with a relationship, with Chris creating [[100_2265|even]] [[ECV 00002|more]] [[Pregnant Act|disturbing]] [[Don'tPintheOop|videos]] in the process. A third party--[[Lars]] McNulty, Jackie's ex-boyfriend--stepped in by the end of September, prompting Chris to release several videos attacking his newfound enemy. Video updates became increasingly bizarre, but still occurred regularly until the end of [[October 2010|October]].<br />
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By [[November 2010|November]], the leaked correspondence showed that Jackie was getting increasing impatient as Chris kept failing to fulfill her requests, while Chris made up a lot of lame excuses for why he could not deliver on them, all while continuously begging Jackie to have sex with him. On November 26, Jackie would send Chris the latest in a string of e-mails in which she criticized him for his laziness and unwillingness when it came to pay a more active part in relationships, and how he, despite of this, kept begging her for sex. Chris stopped responding at this point, putting an end to the saga.<br />
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===[[Tomgirl Saga]] (''28 April 2011 - ongoing, Honestly Who Knows When It'll End'')===<br />
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{{main|Tomgirl Saga|Tomgirl Pictures}}<br />
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In Early/mid-2011, Chris's exile from the Internet continued, and his mental state deteriorated. Some leaked evidence of [[Wikipedia:Transvestitism|transvestitism]] surfaced in [[April 2011|April]], and he later joined the [[Tomboys And Tomgirls of Virginia]] forum, where his posts showed that Chris and sanity were only vague acquaintances. However, as of 2014, Chris is once again openly cross-dressing, against Barb's wishes (She has openly fought Chris over his new found "passion" for cross dressing as stated by Chris) .<br />
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===Call Out Saga (''06 August 2011 - 01 September 2011'')===<br />
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{{main|Calling Out}}<br />
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During the beginning of August, Chris began to release videos as an attempt to get some sort of reprisal out of the trolls. Chris warned the<br />
trolls that if they didn't meet his demands on the deadline Chris had set for them, then Chris would leak information that he believed to be<br />
true, even though most believe some of the information to be fake.<br />
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===Catherine Saga (''9 July 2014 - 14 December 2014'')===<br />
[[File:catherinesaga.png]]<br />
{{main|2014 Anonymous Sweetheart|Catherine E-mails|Catherine}}<br />
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With his newly acquired feminine wiles from his transition to a Tomgirl, Chris managed to attract a sweetheart who would be his first lesbian romance. In the summer of 2014, Chris would reveal he had found a new sweetheart, whose identity he managed to surprisingly conceal for period of time. Later, he would [[I Love You, Catherine|reveal]] that her name was Catherine. Predictably, she turned out to be a troll, who revealed much about Chris having met with him twice. According to Catherine, his [[Catherine#The Date|behavior had not improved]] since the sexual harassment in the early days of the Megan Saga, and neither had the Chandlers's [[Rental House|comprehension of basic sanitation]]. In addition to Catherine's observation on her personal encounters, Chris also announced he had got a piercing on his [[Un-clit|perineum]], meaning this Saga provides some more detail on Chris's disturbing new features as a Tomgirl.<br />
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===Sonic Boom Saga (''3 September 2014 - 15 October 2015'')===<br />
[[Image:SonicBoomSagaBanner.png]]<br />
{{main|Sonic Boom Protests}}<br />
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This Saga began with Chris grumbling on [[Facebook]] about the announcement of the latest [[Sonic]] game, ''[[Wikipedia: Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric|Sonic Boom]]''. Chris wasn't alone in his discontent; many of his Facebook friends expressed disapproval about the deteriorating quality of the Sonic games. What made Chris unique in his irritation, is that the fact that Chris took umbrage at the fact Sonic's arms had been changed from flesh-colored to blue. <br />
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This baffled most of his white knights, with [[William Elliott Waterman]] trying to explain just how ludicrous Chris's demands to Sega to revert back to blue were, especially considering ''Sonic Boom'' was not part of the ''Sonic'' canon. The fact that Sega had no control in the design of Sonic's arms did not deter him and, thanks to his white knights who unwaveringly encouraged him, he began to protest. Initially, his protest against the "Blue-Armed Bandit" took the form of Facebook boycott groups, petitions, and [[Death Threats|angry messages]] on Sega Facebook pages.<br />
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On [[26 December 2014|Boxing Day]], however, this Saga came into bloom, culminating in Chris's second pending court case. Despite warnings from even his most loyal white knights, Chris had decided to take it upon himself to bring the protest into the real world. He went into his local GameStops and vandalized the display cases, including stores he had [[List of places that have banned Chris|previously been banned from]]. It was during his visit to one of these stores that had banned Chris that resulted in his arrest on Boxing Day. Chris had been seen and asked to leave by the [[manajerks|management]]. After initially ignoring their requests he made his way towards the exit and, whilst on the way out, maced an employee, who hadn't been involved in his removal. As a result, Chris spent the weekend in jail, only to have Barb bail him out afterwards.<br />
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Despite this, he continues to go on a tard rage over Sonic's blue arms, calling out Kengle because he owns a ''comic'' with blue-armed Sonic, sending glitterbombs to Sega, and buying a Sonic Boom doll just to rip its arms off.<br />
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Later though, Chris claims victory in the blue arms debacle, due to Sonic the Hedgehog being his non-blue-armed form in Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games. He says this is the final update for the group, but only time will tell if he's telling the truth.<br />
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Ultimately, after six days in court, Chris was found guilty on 15 October 2015 for the GameStop incident and was fined $541 along with a 180-day probation. Thus, the Blue Arms Saga ends (or has it?)<br />
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===Selling Out Saga (''3 July 2014 - 8 June 2016'')===<br />
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{{main|Etsy|Sonichu Amiibo}}<br />
Although this Saga began during the Sonic Boom Saga, it has ultimately outlasted it. Chris realized during this Saga that he could make significantly large amounts of [[money]] by selling his own products, including Medallions and freshly-customized [[Sonichu Amiibo]]s. This Saga is also notable for featuring the return of frequent videos of Chris, plus the return of some aspects of his Classic Chris personality that were thought to have been put to one side. However, Chris's laziness got the best of him (again) and he failed to ship out multiple orders, causing the store to be shut down on 8 June 2016, ending this saga.<br />
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===Financhu Saga (''12 April 2016 - Present'')===<br />
[[File:FinanchuSaga.png|800px|link= ]]<br />
{{main|Financhu Crisis}}<br />
Coined by the members of the [[Kiwi Farms]], this saga began when Chris released [[Please, Donate|a video]] asking for donations in exchange for gifts. Then, he cut out the gifts, and when his Etsy shop was closed, resorted to straight begging, [[Women Only Need Apply - No STD's|prostitution]], and [[By random request; I still need money, please|video]] [[Update 20160718|requests]]; all while continuing to buy over $1,000 worth of toys and only selling [[Update 20160718|'''THREE POKEMON CARDS''']] since this saga's beginning, and putting various worthless junk on eBay for exorbitant prices, showing the full extent of Chris and Barb's financial incompetency. His begging also goes to the point of [[August 2016 Facebook posts#Who wants to pay our mortgage?!|asking on Facebook]] for someone to pay his mortgage. This also shows Chris's ego, since he [[Announcement 06292016|treats his monetary problems that he caused as a charity]].<br />
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==The Future==<br />
If anything remains clear, it is that Chris is incapable of applying past events to current ones. Given this, it is likely that Chris will be enduring one saga or another until the day he dies.<br />
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==See also==<br />
*''[[Excel Saga]]''<br />
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==References==<br />
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[[Category:Trolling]]<br />
[[Category: Sagas]]</div>
Ujirat
https://sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Saga&diff=204041
Talk:Saga
2017-01-18T23:44:29Z
<p>Ujirat: /* Just throwing it out there */</p>
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<div>Add the sagas that we have from the [[List of Videos]] page and describe the overarching storylines in each. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 14:09, 19 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
*The current saga should be called the "Revalation" saga. --[[User:14recinez|14recinez]] 15:30, 14 September 2013 (EST)<br />
* Add information involving the Ebay stuff to the Facebook Saga section. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
* Add the 2014 sagas to the Sagas timeline. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
==Changes==<br />
So basically what I tried to do so far is sum up every saga in 3 images. Is this at all helpful? I can upload colour versions instead if we prefer, but I thought this looked kind of good. I can also put all of them together to make a MEGASAGA sort of image that we can add to as more sagas become apparent. What do we want? Or delete them if you think they are gay. If they are not gay, then I will finish the rest tomorrow. ALSO: I can make a vertically oriented timeline (like from a history book) showing how they progress and overlap. Or horizontally, whatever we want really. Just tell me. For now, I need to sleep. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:25, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
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* I actually really like these. [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 03:38, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
:*I like them. Though I think that like, the subject of the saga should be in the center. Like, the Miyamoto saga, Reggie is in the middle when it really should be Miyamoto. If I may recommend one for Liquid, if there was a way to make it look like they're staring down each other, that'd be cool. Otherwise, nice work, I like the general idea. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:47, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
::*Your wish is my command. It is done. I think I got what you wanted for the Liquid saga too... Now what exactly? I can get started on a timeline. I guess I will work on making each subsection more introductory in the text too... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 20:49, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
::*So I have added some detail to give a bit more advanced insight on the sagas for this page. I hope it is helpful. Are there any other sagas that should be here? I assume not. What do we need to add to make this... complete... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:23, 25 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
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==Timeline==<br />
[[Image:Timeline.png|right]]<br />
So the timeline you see running here is one I made for this article. Problem, When I run it down the right side of the article it looks funny. At least I think it does. Try it. Should we put it there... or what? I will just work on the actual text of this article until we decide what to do about the imagery. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:33, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
*I haven't heard any opinions on this and they claimed to like it in IRC so I have it running down the right. Revert it if you like. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:41, 25 October 2009 (CET)<br />
:*I like it a lot too. Having it up and down isn't orthodox but it's well suited for the media. Very nice job. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)<br />
*I think it looks great, but I think the information is a bit wrong... the Megan Saga went on through the beginning of 2008 and into the ED and Adam Stackhouse affairs. Hell, there wouldn't be a Stackhouse Saga without Megan. Otherwise, it looks good. <br />
----[[User:Kwippleton|Kwippleton]] 06:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Gregg Mays saga==<br />
Not sure if we should consider it part of Clyde Cash saga but we should consider a Gregg Mays saga to include all this Gregg Mays stuff. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)<br />
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==Jack Thaddeus Saga, anyone?==<br />
Or does anyone think it's too early? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 03:42, 2 January 2010 (CET)<br />
* I was about to suggest the same thing. With the [[Kill de Jack|recent]] [[To Clyde and Jack|videos]] aimed at him, the [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call|three]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 2|phone]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 3|calls]] and the CWCipedia ad shenanigans, not to mention [[It's UGH!|previous]] [[Chris humps his PS3|antics]], there seems to be enough material to warrant a new saga. --'''[[User:Lime|<font color="limegreen">L</font>]][[User_talk:Lime|<font color="limegreen">i</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|<font color="limegreen">m</font>]][[nudes|<font color="limegreen">e</font>]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 05:17, 8 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
** Don't forget about Asperchu in the future. Seeing how dedicated Alec is with it so far (and Jack just started advertising his wiki in CWCipedia), a Saga for that is inevitable! --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 05:32, 8 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
*** And I think it has begun! --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 02:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
**** {{Asperchu}} [[Asperchu]] Saga. You like? --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 02:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
***** Very nice! Now how about Jack, anyone? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 02:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
***** Awesome job on the icon! --'''[[User:Lime|<font color="limegreen">L</font>]][[User_talk:Lime|<font color="limegreen">i</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|<font color="limegreen">m</font>]][[nudes|<font color="limegreen">e</font>]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 02:09, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
===Actually...===<br />
Looking at recent edits, someone was adding a "Homosexual ad saga" to this page but it was reverted. While not a proper saga, I'd say it's a sort of mini saga and it's part of the Chris narrative, as it leads into Asperchu saga. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:49, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not sure I'd call the homosexual ads a saga by itself, but part of a CWCipedia saga? I'm certainly not part of the inner circle, but I imagine more hi-jinks involving the CWCipedia are in store. [[User:Chris fangs|Chris fangs]] 21:54, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
*I reverted it. It wasn't a proper saga, no. Even if it could be considered one, the information wasn't presented well enough. I first reverted the changes made to the timeline PNG[http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:Timeline.png], which also wasn't up to par. There could be a lead-in to the Asperchu Saga, sure, but I would vote no on calling it a saga. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
*I re-reverted because you're a huge faggot have a nice day [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]<br />
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*Actually, I changed my mind. If someone could make a better, more convincing presentation of it, go ahead. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:*I agree that the presentation on the timeline sucks, and the name "Homosexual ad saga" does as well. I think Chris fangs is onto something about it being called "CWCipedia saga" since in a way, the Mailbag is a way of trolling Chris and CWCipedia in general sorta inadvertently trolls Chris. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:20, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
::*Well, it seems I've angered someone. Not my intentions, to be sure. Anyway, CWCipedia Saga has a nice ring to it and it's relevant, since the Mailbag is certainly a repository of ongoing trolling. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:28, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
::*Champthom, I'll leave it to you to revert the timeline image/Saga page or not. I don't wish to get into a revert war over Chris Chan. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:34, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::*I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that you're right but so is Nitrocore. The concept of a saga invoking CWCipedia, perhaps call it CWCipedia saga, is good or maybe Jack Thaddeus saga (though I'm aiming at the former) but you are correct in that the write up and the name at the time did kinda suck, and we still need to work on the timeline. For starters, we need to get in touch with the original creator of the timeline or maybe start from scratch. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:58, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
* Ha i win sucker, I actually like "Cwc saga" as well i was just adding stuff(unlike you) if you can combine it and possibly make it better with external links then I'm not bothered [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]<br />
::::*I went with the CWCipedia idea. It's a rough draft, but you get the idea. Nitro, if there is a next time, try not to act like a child. Also, sign your discussion edits with the timestamp. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 00:37, 16 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==The CWCki Saga, anyone?==<br />
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I was going to start this, but decided otherwise unless objects to it, but what we got here is the start of a third saga - CWCki Saga. Chris knows about the CWCki and now he wants to take control of it. You think we should start gathering information on this?--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:19, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
*Damn. It's barely 24 hrs in and we are already talking about a saga! I think it is a tad too early to talk about a saga. Outside of "The WallFlower Incident", we got mostly nothing. Let's wait a little to see where it will goes. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:*I agree. Luckily, we'll probably find out two days from now, when his ultimatum gets ignored to death. If nothing comes of it, then nothing comes of it. If he spazzes out and does something really stupid, like threatening legal action or starting an epic edit war, then yeah. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 05:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Vanessa Saga==<br />
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My old pet project, probably not long or significant enough, but some pretty good videos and logs came from that --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 07:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
*Vanessa saga is one of the unsung tales of the overarching CWC saga and it's sorry that it isn't currently reflected here. However, perhaps now in retrospect it seems more to be part of Ivy saga, though Vanessa saga had dynamic elements and whatnot. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== more saga sum up images ==<br />
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we need a saga image for asperchu (not tito yet) and the cwikipedia saga--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 02:19, 20 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Heres a quick one i made for the game place, just to throw out the idea, can't use it since it doesn't match the others<br />
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== Tito saga ==<br />
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'''In December 2009, Chris released a page from Sonichu 10, which revealed a girl named [[Lovely Weather]]. Many trolls were confused as to why Chris would create a fictional love interest when previous issues used real life girls. The confusion continued when Chris revealed he had a gal-pal during some of his Mailbags.'''<br />
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Is it just me or does this seem to suggest that "Lovely Weather" is connected to [[The Wallflower]]? If so, this text is incorrect as Chris didn't meet Wallflower until January at the latest. Srsly guys. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:50, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
* Okay, I'll admit - I wrote that bit when it seemed like there was a connection between Weather and Wallflower. I'll alter it so it won't seem that way.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 13:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==IRL Saga?==<br />
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It might be too early for this, but if he keeps up these public creeper antics, methinks an "IRL Saga" would be appropriate. --[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 16:12, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
* I always thought it would be better to call everything that's happened since he "left" the Internet the "CWC Exile Saga". But, still, IRL Saga's just as good.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 16:24, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
**How about 'Reality Saga'? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:48, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
***If we're going to do that, we might as well include the Love Quest as a saga, since this sounds pretty much like a repeat of those events. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 17:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
**** I understand the reasoning behind that, though a good chunk of the Love Quest happened online within specific sagas. Personally, the only issue I would see with such a saga (CWC Exile is a great title) is that it overlaps with The GAMe PLACe and the last bit of Surfshack Tito.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 01:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
***** I think, in a technical level, we're between sagas. We just simply have to wait and see what damn fool thing he does next. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 02:06, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Flipnote Hatena saga ==<br />
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Does it count as one yet? He's slowly cracking at the seams, and it could get worse. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 20:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
*It looks like it might form a saga as he goes along and breaks more Flipnote Waptena rules, so it's plausible. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 21:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
**Of course he's banned from uploading anything now. I think it was a bit short to count as a saga. A bit uneventful too, though that's just my thoughts on it. If everyone else thinks it could be considered it's own saga... Go for it.--[[User:Yoyoddd|Yoyoddd]] 10:07, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
***I look at this a bit like the Tito saga; very little actually was done to Chris, but it was his response to what happened that made it a saga. We have to wait and see how he reacts to the ban to see whether it's worthy or not. That's just my two cents though. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 10:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
****Maybe we should put "interim activities" as a separate category; nothing that fits the criteria for saga but still somewhat noteworthy. Chris being "off the internet" and on flipnote for a month could merit that. That way we could still fill out the periods between major sagas. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 14:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
*****Even if it doesn't count as a full-fledged "Saga" it was a pretty crazy two weeks. I'm not sure if he'll return to youtube as a result of his banning, but I'm sure he'll cap off the whole thing with an enraged complaint ''somewhere''.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 15:41, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==PS3 Saga?==<br />
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Before somebody already points it out, I know that the few destruction videos he put up doesn't count as a saga. I'm wondering if we should make a saga for the activities that lead to it's destruction. There's a lot of juicy info I'd like to catalog, but I don't know if it's officially over yet or not (And i also don't want to disrupt any trolling plans that may still be in motion). --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 15:04, 17 September 2010 (PDT)<br />
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==Missing Sagas==<br />
Why aren't the sagas caused by [[Vanessa_Saga|Joshua Martinez]] included on the saga list?<br />
*1) please sign your posts (it's four ~ in a row) 2) the stuff from Joshua Martinez is really part of Ivy saga. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
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==On Sagas==<br />
This isn't picking on anything that's going on here, but I was thinking and I think the term "saga" gets abused - not so much on here, mind you, but elsewhere but I think it sometimes spills over to the CWCki. <br />
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What is a saga? Like the article says, it's an overarching story in the life and times of Chris. For instance, let's take Miyamoto saga, which, also as the article says, what really started the whole "saga" thing. You have Chris and "Miyamoto" talking to each other over several weeks, and there's conflict between the two, then there's Reggie who gets involved, and then there's all the videos inbetween. If you watch a video from the saga without the context the saga arch provides, you're missing out on a lot. They're all intertwined, the content that is, and that's what the saga theme is all about, taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.<br />
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So what does this mean? You calling Chris is not "You calling Chris saga." Chris dressing up as a woman is not "Tomgirl saga." Seeing Chris at the mall is not "Chris at the mall saga." Chris does stuff, it doesn't need to fit in part of a narrative. It's sorta a chapter in the overarching saga that is Chris's life, but not a saga in itself. Secondly, I don't think sagas are really made. I think people expect to troll Chris and want some place on this page, wanting their own "Gigantic Attention Whore saga." Pretty much every saga wasn't intended to be a saga, it's not like they planned this all out, it's just going with the flow and it happens to have narrative to it. <br />
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I had more but I forgot what else I was going to say. But hopefully this will make sense and serve as a guide to what is a saga and what isn't, so much as how it should be included on the page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
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*Actually, while we're talking about sagas, I'd like to ask for a bit of clarification on how saga related articles are named. Recent sagas for instance are just documented in the article on the appropriate person. The article on the Ivy Saga is called [[Ivy]] and the article on the Liquid Saga is called [[Liquid Chris]]. But then there are articles which are literally called [[Miyamoto Saga]] or [[Vanessa Saga]], which are full of emails just dumped there incomprehensibly. And this is in spite of there actually being articles for [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] and [[Vanessa Hudgens]]. Don't get me wrong, I realize the need to keep the crap ton of emails separate from the main articles, but the naming convention is just odd. I'm not quite sure, but I'm willing to bet it's Clyde's fault. What is the official policy on naming saga articles? Should they all be named as "X" or as "X Saga"? And while we're on it, some sagas have a weird little template documenting all things related to them. Two I can name are [[:Template:BlancaSaga]] and [[:Template:MeganSaga]]. I don't think they're bad. They could use a little cleanup, but I do have a problem with the fact that some sagas have them and others don't. They could serve as a great way to sum up everything and point users in the direction of content relevant to each saga, but as it is right now, there's no consistency in which sagas have them. What should we do? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:29, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
:*Good points. In regards to the e-mails, I guess people consider the bulk of the saga the e-mails or IM chats behind them, but perhaps we could rename them to be "Miyamoto Saga e-mails" or "Vanessa Saga chats"? It's probably Clyde's fault, at least for the Miyamoto e-mails. As for the templates, they probably could use cleaning up and the reason why some do and some don't is because people haven't gotten around to doing them for other templates (which can be something you can work on, if you so please). Definitely, make templates for each saga, that'd be a great way to present information. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:46, 23 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
::*Well if you think that's something for me to work on then I suppose I could have a go at it. It'd make a change from all the sonichu shit that I've been doing recently. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:41, 24 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
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== Individual Saga pages ==<br />
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I didn't know where to put this suggestion, so I'm putting it here. I was thinking we can give each Saga its own page. The pages would go into more detail about the saga, a summary of the events, and a listing of videos, emails, etc. in order by date. This serves to make a description about all events in the Saga from beginning to end, as there is none on the CWCki. The closest there is to it is the timeline with all of the years and months, but often times there are events irrelevant to the Saga and events in other Sagas happening. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 16:47, 2 January 2012 (PST)<br />
* EDIT: I noticed there are articles called "Vanessa Saga" and more, but those aren't the type of formats I'm talking about. Those pages are only content dumps, but what I'm talking about is much more organized.<br />
* I made a [[Tomgirl Saga]] page. If there's a problem with it, or if the page is a bad idea, speak now or I'll write pages for the other sagas. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 09:56, 3 January 2012 (PST)<br />
*I still don't think that the whole Tomgirl thing is actually a saga, but I'll let other people debate that as that's mostly my opinion. The thing is, the articles about respective sagas tend to be in the page about the people involved. Like, most of the stuff with the Ivy saga is in the [[Ivy]] page, and the stuff about Liquid is on the [[Liquid Chris]] page. I see what you want to do and it does make sense but I think it might be redundant unless we totally rework these biographical articles so we're not saying the same stuff on two different pages.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:38, 4 January 2012 (PST)<br />
**I think that the question of whether or not every Saga deserves its own individual page should be decided on a case by case basis rather then collectively. I think that starting the article on the Tomgirl Saga was a good idea, but having articles such "Jackie Saga", "Blanca Saga" or "Julie Saga" will be redundant in my opinion. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 06:44, 4 January 2012 (PST)<br />
*** i agree, this page handles the simplified explanations and servers as a nice jumping off point. There is plenty blue here to get you started and if you need details about the saga then read the details linked in blue :)<br />
* I was thinking this myself. Not every saga needs a seperate page but sagas which involved a lot of interaction in the form of Youtube videos between two parties would benefit from a seperate entry. I'm especially thinking of the Liquid Chris/CWCivil war ordeal. One page or a group of pages with the video interaction between the two in chronological order would be very useful. Maybe the Asperchu saga also? I was taking a break from Chris during that period and am still not too clear on the chronology of events. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 09:06, 15 July 2012 (PDT)<br />
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== Second Exile saga? ==<br />
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Chris hasn't done anything of note lately. His therapist may have banned him from the internet, and is most likely doing his service or playing video games. This may go on for a while, and might be considered a saga.--[[User:Germanicus|Germanicus]] 14:13, 8 October 2012 (PDT)<br />
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- I disagree. A time without content, I feel, shouldn't be considered a saga.--[[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] 13:01, 3 Feburary 2014<br />
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== Regarding the Catherine Saga ==<br />
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I'll put the section back once the Catherine drama goes further. Like Champthom said before that sagas are "taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.", I say wait and see until we can confirm it. Right now, it's still early to claim a new saga. Not to mention sagas are abused to death. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 14:33, 10 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
*I'll just share some comments I made in the chat on the CWCki Forums on the matter. Like I've said, the saga really should just be a tool to provide a narrative to what happens with Chris in specific periods. We probably have what constitutes a saga now - Chris is active on Facebook, he apparently has a girlfriend, he's trying to make money off eBay and Kickstarter, he's claiming to be fully transgendered. I'm inclined to call this "Facebook saga" as I feel the characterization of this saga is Chris's interactions with people on Facebook. It's unusual as we mostly focus on people but I think in this case, it might make sense to focus on the medium and not so much the persons involved. I feel that "Catherine saga" at this point is too narrow - we just have a single video and we're not really sure she's the main impetus behind this revival. To me at least, it seems sorta a side note compared to bigger picture things like Chris finally trying to earn money through his art and embracing transgenderism. <br />
:Ideally, we'd name this after the fact but it's helpful to have a label for us to refer to the events now. Most of the sagas were named after the fact or it was extremely obvious what to name it after - Chris was seeing Ivy, pretty much everything he did involved Ivy, so it made sense to call that the Ivy saga. But we're not really seeing the same thing here with Catherine. We're different from Wikipedia in the sense that you as the users have influence in determining what this is called. In a way, original research is acceptable here mostly because there's not really formal institutions that study autistic manchildren for a living. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 14:41, 10 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
*I have added some details to the Catherine and Sonic sagas, but I think that you are right about combining the Facebook saga point. A good deal of information from Catherine is not really typical trolling, but further information on Chris's condition as a Tomgirl and his general repulsive self. It may be a good idea to combine the two into some sort of saga, rather than having two separate sections.[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 13:30, 2 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Is there an "Ebay" Saga going on right now? ==<br />
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Considering all of the ebay stuff that has been going on for a while, like the situation with Mr. Smith, the Tribalism art, and such, should it be considered a saga? It's long enough to be considered as saga, but I'm wondering it there was enough content to validate it being called a saga. -Fredinno, Feb 3, 2014.<br />
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*I think it would be best to make a Facebook Saga, as Champthom suggested above. Maybe Catherine could also be mentioned here too? And his return to his art. [[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 21:13, 5 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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*I disagree, but I'm beaten, 3 to 1. Oh well, I guess I'll combine those two together. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:01, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Tomgirl Saga vs Calling Out Saga ==<br />
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Should the Calling Out Saga be separated from the Tomgirl Saga? The two things, in my opinion, are very different from each other, and many people from the Cwcki Forums, including me, believe the two are different Sagas. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:14, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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*You are right, they are two different things, but I think the reason they have been put together is because it's part of Chris's Tomgirl phase. I don't really think Calling Out qualifies as a Saga in its own right, so, personally, I would argue against giving it its own section. I am assuming it was added to give a bit more volume to the Tomgirl Saga, but, now that we have more information on Chris's Tomgirl antics, we could replace Calling Out with something else. <br />
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*So, to link back to what we were talking about above, I guess maybe Catherine could go with Tomgirl - as Chris's first lesbian encounter. The eBay stuff could then go to a Facebook Saga because it marks a change in both Chris's personality, since he has become more withdrawn, and how he communicates, being far more paranoid and holding court only to a select few. Obviously, this withdrawal has also come about from Bob's death, and also why he is allegedly selling stuff on eBay because he claims to need the money more for him and Barb. So, here you can see a link between the change in Chris and ''why'' he has returned to making his artwork and selling stuff, but it also demonstrates a change in how trolling Chris has changed. Granted, he's still being trolled, but it's not as abrasive as it once was because it can only be done through eBay - again because Chris has cut off all contact.<br />
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*Anyway, if you see the links there that I'm thinking of, you'll understand why I want to merge the eBay Saga with Facebook, plus I don't really think enough happened for it to warrant a Saga in its own right, but I haven't seen the pages on the wiki to document it so I could be wrong on that point. Let me know how you see it and how you think Chris's recent shenanigans would be best documented. Once everyone has discussed it we will probably have a good idea of the most efficient way of categorizing his recent behavior into Sagas. Apologies for wall of text,[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 11:33, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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*Really, though I can agree with your statement that Ebay Saga should be merged with Facebook Saga, (since there were many miscellaneous Facebook posts important to Chrisdom and Christory, the two sometimes connect with each other via Chris, and the 'ebay saga' only contains 2 fiascos that were really funny). Catherine should probably be its own saga, in my opinion, due to that stuff being related directly to a new sweetheart, but I could understand why you want it to be included as a "Tomgirl Saga, Part 2" sort of thing. On the other hand, Calling Out really has a enough content in relation to it, to be a saga, but is too big simply to be left as not a part of any saga. Since it was cut short by Bob's death, it should be considered its own saga.<br />
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In summary, I believe we should merge Facebook and Ebay Sagas, maybe merge Tomgirl and Catherine, but decouple Calling out from Tomgirl. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 21:53, 7 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== The Boxing Day Saga ==<br />
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Should there be a separate saga for SONIC'S ARMS ARE NOT FREAKING BLUE!!!<br />
I know that the saga is older than what I will now call the "Boxing Day GameStop Spritzing", but it has a nice, poetic ring to it.<br />
--Troll-chan Sonichu, 05/03/2015<br />
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No, That's Sonic Boom Saga.<br />
--Fredinno<br />
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== Should the Tom Girl Saga end? ==<br />
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Since Chris has stated on facebook that she is no longer a male she is a transwoman, and a female, should the Tom Girl Saga come to a close? .--[[User:Sinistersnare]] 14:13, 7 March 2015 (PDT)<br />
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== Is the Financhu Crisis worthy of a Saga? ==<br />
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chris has been begging for money for a while now, and with the mortgage of around $100,000 that barbara has to pay, i doubt it will end anytime soon.<br />
should it be made its' own unique saga? --Kettleonwater 8th September 2016 10:46am<br />
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I think so. Chris may have begged in the past for sex and his PSN account, but I am seeing a pattern recently of him begging for money. The Financhu Crisis Saga -galxylax 13 September 2016 20:06 PST<br />
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== Just throwing it out there ==<br />
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I feel the next soon starting saga will almost undoubtedly be either The Trump Saga, or the Partyvan saga; since many have been reporting his archived death threats. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 22:55, 14 November 2016 (UTC)<br />
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It's hard to say now. On one hand, the anti-Trump vitriol has reached levels of hatefulness on par with classic Chris's anti-gay agenda, and Chris's return to issuing death threats suggests that he's taken quite an exception to Trump's election. On the other hand, Chris is so lazy that unless the death threats/hate rhetoric become a regular thing (a la Financhu Crisis) or he takes overt actions to advance his agenda (a la Sonic Boom Protests), the whole issue may blow over after Trump takes office. There's been an issue in the past with Christorians jumping the gun on declaring new sagas. Sometimes they've called them right, other times it's turned out to be nothing. Also, the fact that so many of Chris's death threats have already been reported, publicly exposed, and even tweeted straight to Trump's Twitter with no retaliatory action taken makes it doubtful that there will be a party van saga.--[[User:Ujirat|Ujirat]] ([[User talk:Ujirat|talk]]) 23:39, 18 January 2017 (UTC)</div>
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Talk:Saga
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<div>Add the sagas that we have from the [[List of Videos]] page and describe the overarching storylines in each. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 14:09, 19 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
*The current saga should be called the "Revalation" saga. --[[User:14recinez|14recinez]] 15:30, 14 September 2013 (EST)<br />
* Add information involving the Ebay stuff to the Facebook Saga section. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
* Add the 2014 sagas to the Sagas timeline. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
==Changes==<br />
So basically what I tried to do so far is sum up every saga in 3 images. Is this at all helpful? I can upload colour versions instead if we prefer, but I thought this looked kind of good. I can also put all of them together to make a MEGASAGA sort of image that we can add to as more sagas become apparent. What do we want? Or delete them if you think they are gay. If they are not gay, then I will finish the rest tomorrow. ALSO: I can make a vertically oriented timeline (like from a history book) showing how they progress and overlap. Or horizontally, whatever we want really. Just tell me. For now, I need to sleep. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:25, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
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* I actually really like these. [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 03:38, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
:*I like them. Though I think that like, the subject of the saga should be in the center. Like, the Miyamoto saga, Reggie is in the middle when it really should be Miyamoto. If I may recommend one for Liquid, if there was a way to make it look like they're staring down each other, that'd be cool. Otherwise, nice work, I like the general idea. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:47, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
::*Your wish is my command. It is done. I think I got what you wanted for the Liquid saga too... Now what exactly? I can get started on a timeline. I guess I will work on making each subsection more introductory in the text too... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 20:49, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
::*So I have added some detail to give a bit more advanced insight on the sagas for this page. I hope it is helpful. Are there any other sagas that should be here? I assume not. What do we need to add to make this... complete... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:23, 25 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
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==Timeline==<br />
[[Image:Timeline.png|right]]<br />
So the timeline you see running here is one I made for this article. Problem, When I run it down the right side of the article it looks funny. At least I think it does. Try it. Should we put it there... or what? I will just work on the actual text of this article until we decide what to do about the imagery. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:33, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
*I haven't heard any opinions on this and they claimed to like it in IRC so I have it running down the right. Revert it if you like. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:41, 25 October 2009 (CET)<br />
:*I like it a lot too. Having it up and down isn't orthodox but it's well suited for the media. Very nice job. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)<br />
*I think it looks great, but I think the information is a bit wrong... the Megan Saga went on through the beginning of 2008 and into the ED and Adam Stackhouse affairs. Hell, there wouldn't be a Stackhouse Saga without Megan. Otherwise, it looks good. <br />
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==Gregg Mays saga==<br />
Not sure if we should consider it part of Clyde Cash saga but we should consider a Gregg Mays saga to include all this Gregg Mays stuff. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)<br />
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==Jack Thaddeus Saga, anyone?==<br />
Or does anyone think it's too early? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 03:42, 2 January 2010 (CET)<br />
* I was about to suggest the same thing. With the [[Kill de Jack|recent]] [[To Clyde and Jack|videos]] aimed at him, the [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call|three]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 2|phone]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 3|calls]] and the CWCipedia ad shenanigans, not to mention [[It's UGH!|previous]] [[Chris humps his PS3|antics]], there seems to be enough material to warrant a new saga. --'''[[User:Lime|<font color="limegreen">L</font>]][[User_talk:Lime|<font color="limegreen">i</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|<font color="limegreen">m</font>]][[nudes|<font color="limegreen">e</font>]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 05:17, 8 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
** Don't forget about Asperchu in the future. Seeing how dedicated Alec is with it so far (and Jack just started advertising his wiki in CWCipedia), a Saga for that is inevitable! --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 05:32, 8 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
*** And I think it has begun! --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 02:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
**** {{Asperchu}} [[Asperchu]] Saga. You like? --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 02:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
***** Very nice! Now how about Jack, anyone? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 02:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
***** Awesome job on the icon! --'''[[User:Lime|<font color="limegreen">L</font>]][[User_talk:Lime|<font color="limegreen">i</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|<font color="limegreen">m</font>]][[nudes|<font color="limegreen">e</font>]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 02:09, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
===Actually...===<br />
Looking at recent edits, someone was adding a "Homosexual ad saga" to this page but it was reverted. While not a proper saga, I'd say it's a sort of mini saga and it's part of the Chris narrative, as it leads into Asperchu saga. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:49, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not sure I'd call the homosexual ads a saga by itself, but part of a CWCipedia saga? I'm certainly not part of the inner circle, but I imagine more hi-jinks involving the CWCipedia are in store. [[User:Chris fangs|Chris fangs]] 21:54, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
*I reverted it. It wasn't a proper saga, no. Even if it could be considered one, the information wasn't presented well enough. I first reverted the changes made to the timeline PNG[http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:Timeline.png], which also wasn't up to par. There could be a lead-in to the Asperchu Saga, sure, but I would vote no on calling it a saga. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
*I re-reverted because you're a huge faggot have a nice day [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]<br />
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*Actually, I changed my mind. If someone could make a better, more convincing presentation of it, go ahead. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:*I agree that the presentation on the timeline sucks, and the name "Homosexual ad saga" does as well. I think Chris fangs is onto something about it being called "CWCipedia saga" since in a way, the Mailbag is a way of trolling Chris and CWCipedia in general sorta inadvertently trolls Chris. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:20, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
::*Well, it seems I've angered someone. Not my intentions, to be sure. Anyway, CWCipedia Saga has a nice ring to it and it's relevant, since the Mailbag is certainly a repository of ongoing trolling. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:28, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
::*Champthom, I'll leave it to you to revert the timeline image/Saga page or not. I don't wish to get into a revert war over Chris Chan. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:34, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::*I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that you're right but so is Nitrocore. The concept of a saga invoking CWCipedia, perhaps call it CWCipedia saga, is good or maybe Jack Thaddeus saga (though I'm aiming at the former) but you are correct in that the write up and the name at the time did kinda suck, and we still need to work on the timeline. For starters, we need to get in touch with the original creator of the timeline or maybe start from scratch. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:58, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
* Ha i win sucker, I actually like "Cwc saga" as well i was just adding stuff(unlike you) if you can combine it and possibly make it better with external links then I'm not bothered [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]<br />
::::*I went with the CWCipedia idea. It's a rough draft, but you get the idea. Nitro, if there is a next time, try not to act like a child. Also, sign your discussion edits with the timestamp. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 00:37, 16 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==The CWCki Saga, anyone?==<br />
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I was going to start this, but decided otherwise unless objects to it, but what we got here is the start of a third saga - CWCki Saga. Chris knows about the CWCki and now he wants to take control of it. You think we should start gathering information on this?--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:19, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
*Damn. It's barely 24 hrs in and we are already talking about a saga! I think it is a tad too early to talk about a saga. Outside of "The WallFlower Incident", we got mostly nothing. Let's wait a little to see where it will goes. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:*I agree. Luckily, we'll probably find out two days from now, when his ultimatum gets ignored to death. If nothing comes of it, then nothing comes of it. If he spazzes out and does something really stupid, like threatening legal action or starting an epic edit war, then yeah. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 05:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Vanessa Saga==<br />
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My old pet project, probably not long or significant enough, but some pretty good videos and logs came from that --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 07:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
*Vanessa saga is one of the unsung tales of the overarching CWC saga and it's sorry that it isn't currently reflected here. However, perhaps now in retrospect it seems more to be part of Ivy saga, though Vanessa saga had dynamic elements and whatnot. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== more saga sum up images ==<br />
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we need a saga image for asperchu (not tito yet) and the cwikipedia saga--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 02:19, 20 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Heres a quick one i made for the game place, just to throw out the idea, can't use it since it doesn't match the others<br />
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== Tito saga ==<br />
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'''In December 2009, Chris released a page from Sonichu 10, which revealed a girl named [[Lovely Weather]]. Many trolls were confused as to why Chris would create a fictional love interest when previous issues used real life girls. The confusion continued when Chris revealed he had a gal-pal during some of his Mailbags.'''<br />
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Is it just me or does this seem to suggest that "Lovely Weather" is connected to [[The Wallflower]]? If so, this text is incorrect as Chris didn't meet Wallflower until January at the latest. Srsly guys. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:50, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
* Okay, I'll admit - I wrote that bit when it seemed like there was a connection between Weather and Wallflower. I'll alter it so it won't seem that way.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 13:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==IRL Saga?==<br />
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It might be too early for this, but if he keeps up these public creeper antics, methinks an "IRL Saga" would be appropriate. --[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 16:12, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
* I always thought it would be better to call everything that's happened since he "left" the Internet the "CWC Exile Saga". But, still, IRL Saga's just as good.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 16:24, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
**How about 'Reality Saga'? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:48, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
***If we're going to do that, we might as well include the Love Quest as a saga, since this sounds pretty much like a repeat of those events. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 17:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
**** I understand the reasoning behind that, though a good chunk of the Love Quest happened online within specific sagas. Personally, the only issue I would see with such a saga (CWC Exile is a great title) is that it overlaps with The GAMe PLACe and the last bit of Surfshack Tito.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 01:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
***** I think, in a technical level, we're between sagas. We just simply have to wait and see what damn fool thing he does next. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 02:06, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Flipnote Hatena saga ==<br />
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Does it count as one yet? He's slowly cracking at the seams, and it could get worse. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 20:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
*It looks like it might form a saga as he goes along and breaks more Flipnote Waptena rules, so it's plausible. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 21:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
**Of course he's banned from uploading anything now. I think it was a bit short to count as a saga. A bit uneventful too, though that's just my thoughts on it. If everyone else thinks it could be considered it's own saga... Go for it.--[[User:Yoyoddd|Yoyoddd]] 10:07, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
***I look at this a bit like the Tito saga; very little actually was done to Chris, but it was his response to what happened that made it a saga. We have to wait and see how he reacts to the ban to see whether it's worthy or not. That's just my two cents though. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 10:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
****Maybe we should put "interim activities" as a separate category; nothing that fits the criteria for saga but still somewhat noteworthy. Chris being "off the internet" and on flipnote for a month could merit that. That way we could still fill out the periods between major sagas. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 14:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
*****Even if it doesn't count as a full-fledged "Saga" it was a pretty crazy two weeks. I'm not sure if he'll return to youtube as a result of his banning, but I'm sure he'll cap off the whole thing with an enraged complaint ''somewhere''.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 15:41, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==PS3 Saga?==<br />
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Before somebody already points it out, I know that the few destruction videos he put up doesn't count as a saga. I'm wondering if we should make a saga for the activities that lead to it's destruction. There's a lot of juicy info I'd like to catalog, but I don't know if it's officially over yet or not (And i also don't want to disrupt any trolling plans that may still be in motion). --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 15:04, 17 September 2010 (PDT)<br />
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==Missing Sagas==<br />
Why aren't the sagas caused by [[Vanessa_Saga|Joshua Martinez]] included on the saga list?<br />
*1) please sign your posts (it's four ~ in a row) 2) the stuff from Joshua Martinez is really part of Ivy saga. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
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==On Sagas==<br />
This isn't picking on anything that's going on here, but I was thinking and I think the term "saga" gets abused - not so much on here, mind you, but elsewhere but I think it sometimes spills over to the CWCki. <br />
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What is a saga? Like the article says, it's an overarching story in the life and times of Chris. For instance, let's take Miyamoto saga, which, also as the article says, what really started the whole "saga" thing. You have Chris and "Miyamoto" talking to each other over several weeks, and there's conflict between the two, then there's Reggie who gets involved, and then there's all the videos inbetween. If you watch a video from the saga without the context the saga arch provides, you're missing out on a lot. They're all intertwined, the content that is, and that's what the saga theme is all about, taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.<br />
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So what does this mean? You calling Chris is not "You calling Chris saga." Chris dressing up as a woman is not "Tomgirl saga." Seeing Chris at the mall is not "Chris at the mall saga." Chris does stuff, it doesn't need to fit in part of a narrative. It's sorta a chapter in the overarching saga that is Chris's life, but not a saga in itself. Secondly, I don't think sagas are really made. I think people expect to troll Chris and want some place on this page, wanting their own "Gigantic Attention Whore saga." Pretty much every saga wasn't intended to be a saga, it's not like they planned this all out, it's just going with the flow and it happens to have narrative to it. <br />
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I had more but I forgot what else I was going to say. But hopefully this will make sense and serve as a guide to what is a saga and what isn't, so much as how it should be included on the page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
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*Actually, while we're talking about sagas, I'd like to ask for a bit of clarification on how saga related articles are named. Recent sagas for instance are just documented in the article on the appropriate person. The article on the Ivy Saga is called [[Ivy]] and the article on the Liquid Saga is called [[Liquid Chris]]. But then there are articles which are literally called [[Miyamoto Saga]] or [[Vanessa Saga]], which are full of emails just dumped there incomprehensibly. And this is in spite of there actually being articles for [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] and [[Vanessa Hudgens]]. Don't get me wrong, I realize the need to keep the crap ton of emails separate from the main articles, but the naming convention is just odd. I'm not quite sure, but I'm willing to bet it's Clyde's fault. What is the official policy on naming saga articles? Should they all be named as "X" or as "X Saga"? And while we're on it, some sagas have a weird little template documenting all things related to them. Two I can name are [[:Template:BlancaSaga]] and [[:Template:MeganSaga]]. I don't think they're bad. They could use a little cleanup, but I do have a problem with the fact that some sagas have them and others don't. They could serve as a great way to sum up everything and point users in the direction of content relevant to each saga, but as it is right now, there's no consistency in which sagas have them. What should we do? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:29, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
:*Good points. In regards to the e-mails, I guess people consider the bulk of the saga the e-mails or IM chats behind them, but perhaps we could rename them to be "Miyamoto Saga e-mails" or "Vanessa Saga chats"? It's probably Clyde's fault, at least for the Miyamoto e-mails. As for the templates, they probably could use cleaning up and the reason why some do and some don't is because people haven't gotten around to doing them for other templates (which can be something you can work on, if you so please). Definitely, make templates for each saga, that'd be a great way to present information. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:46, 23 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
::*Well if you think that's something for me to work on then I suppose I could have a go at it. It'd make a change from all the sonichu shit that I've been doing recently. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:41, 24 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
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== Individual Saga pages ==<br />
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I didn't know where to put this suggestion, so I'm putting it here. I was thinking we can give each Saga its own page. The pages would go into more detail about the saga, a summary of the events, and a listing of videos, emails, etc. in order by date. This serves to make a description about all events in the Saga from beginning to end, as there is none on the CWCki. The closest there is to it is the timeline with all of the years and months, but often times there are events irrelevant to the Saga and events in other Sagas happening. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 16:47, 2 January 2012 (PST)<br />
* EDIT: I noticed there are articles called "Vanessa Saga" and more, but those aren't the type of formats I'm talking about. Those pages are only content dumps, but what I'm talking about is much more organized.<br />
* I made a [[Tomgirl Saga]] page. If there's a problem with it, or if the page is a bad idea, speak now or I'll write pages for the other sagas. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 09:56, 3 January 2012 (PST)<br />
*I still don't think that the whole Tomgirl thing is actually a saga, but I'll let other people debate that as that's mostly my opinion. The thing is, the articles about respective sagas tend to be in the page about the people involved. Like, most of the stuff with the Ivy saga is in the [[Ivy]] page, and the stuff about Liquid is on the [[Liquid Chris]] page. I see what you want to do and it does make sense but I think it might be redundant unless we totally rework these biographical articles so we're not saying the same stuff on two different pages.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:38, 4 January 2012 (PST)<br />
**I think that the question of whether or not every Saga deserves its own individual page should be decided on a case by case basis rather then collectively. I think that starting the article on the Tomgirl Saga was a good idea, but having articles such "Jackie Saga", "Blanca Saga" or "Julie Saga" will be redundant in my opinion. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 06:44, 4 January 2012 (PST)<br />
*** i agree, this page handles the simplified explanations and servers as a nice jumping off point. There is plenty blue here to get you started and if you need details about the saga then read the details linked in blue :)<br />
* I was thinking this myself. Not every saga needs a seperate page but sagas which involved a lot of interaction in the form of Youtube videos between two parties would benefit from a seperate entry. I'm especially thinking of the Liquid Chris/CWCivil war ordeal. One page or a group of pages with the video interaction between the two in chronological order would be very useful. Maybe the Asperchu saga also? I was taking a break from Chris during that period and am still not too clear on the chronology of events. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 09:06, 15 July 2012 (PDT)<br />
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== Second Exile saga? ==<br />
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Chris hasn't done anything of note lately. His therapist may have banned him from the internet, and is most likely doing his service or playing video games. This may go on for a while, and might be considered a saga.--[[User:Germanicus|Germanicus]] 14:13, 8 October 2012 (PDT)<br />
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- I disagree. A time without content, I feel, shouldn't be considered a saga.--[[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] 13:01, 3 Feburary 2014<br />
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== Regarding the Catherine Saga ==<br />
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I'll put the section back once the Catherine drama goes further. Like Champthom said before that sagas are "taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.", I say wait and see until we can confirm it. Right now, it's still early to claim a new saga. Not to mention sagas are abused to death. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 14:33, 10 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
*I'll just share some comments I made in the chat on the CWCki Forums on the matter. Like I've said, the saga really should just be a tool to provide a narrative to what happens with Chris in specific periods. We probably have what constitutes a saga now - Chris is active on Facebook, he apparently has a girlfriend, he's trying to make money off eBay and Kickstarter, he's claiming to be fully transgendered. I'm inclined to call this "Facebook saga" as I feel the characterization of this saga is Chris's interactions with people on Facebook. It's unusual as we mostly focus on people but I think in this case, it might make sense to focus on the medium and not so much the persons involved. I feel that "Catherine saga" at this point is too narrow - we just have a single video and we're not really sure she's the main impetus behind this revival. To me at least, it seems sorta a side note compared to bigger picture things like Chris finally trying to earn money through his art and embracing transgenderism. <br />
:Ideally, we'd name this after the fact but it's helpful to have a label for us to refer to the events now. Most of the sagas were named after the fact or it was extremely obvious what to name it after - Chris was seeing Ivy, pretty much everything he did involved Ivy, so it made sense to call that the Ivy saga. But we're not really seeing the same thing here with Catherine. We're different from Wikipedia in the sense that you as the users have influence in determining what this is called. In a way, original research is acceptable here mostly because there's not really formal institutions that study autistic manchildren for a living. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 14:41, 10 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
*I have added some details to the Catherine and Sonic sagas, but I think that you are right about combining the Facebook saga point. A good deal of information from Catherine is not really typical trolling, but further information on Chris's condition as a Tomgirl and his general repulsive self. It may be a good idea to combine the two into some sort of saga, rather than having two separate sections.[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 13:30, 2 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Is there an "Ebay" Saga going on right now? ==<br />
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Considering all of the ebay stuff that has been going on for a while, like the situation with Mr. Smith, the Tribalism art, and such, should it be considered a saga? It's long enough to be considered as saga, but I'm wondering it there was enough content to validate it being called a saga. -Fredinno, Feb 3, 2014.<br />
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*I think it would be best to make a Facebook Saga, as Champthom suggested above. Maybe Catherine could also be mentioned here too? And his return to his art. [[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 21:13, 5 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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*I disagree, but I'm beaten, 3 to 1. Oh well, I guess I'll combine those two together. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:01, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Tomgirl Saga vs Calling Out Saga ==<br />
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Should the Calling Out Saga be separated from the Tomgirl Saga? The two things, in my opinion, are very different from each other, and many people from the Cwcki Forums, including me, believe the two are different Sagas. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:14, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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*You are right, they are two different things, but I think the reason they have been put together is because it's part of Chris's Tomgirl phase. I don't really think Calling Out qualifies as a Saga in its own right, so, personally, I would argue against giving it its own section. I am assuming it was added to give a bit more volume to the Tomgirl Saga, but, now that we have more information on Chris's Tomgirl antics, we could replace Calling Out with something else. <br />
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*So, to link back to what we were talking about above, I guess maybe Catherine could go with Tomgirl - as Chris's first lesbian encounter. The eBay stuff could then go to a Facebook Saga because it marks a change in both Chris's personality, since he has become more withdrawn, and how he communicates, being far more paranoid and holding court only to a select few. Obviously, this withdrawal has also come about from Bob's death, and also why he is allegedly selling stuff on eBay because he claims to need the money more for him and Barb. So, here you can see a link between the change in Chris and ''why'' he has returned to making his artwork and selling stuff, but it also demonstrates a change in how trolling Chris has changed. Granted, he's still being trolled, but it's not as abrasive as it once was because it can only be done through eBay - again because Chris has cut off all contact.<br />
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*Anyway, if you see the links there that I'm thinking of, you'll understand why I want to merge the eBay Saga with Facebook, plus I don't really think enough happened for it to warrant a Saga in its own right, but I haven't seen the pages on the wiki to document it so I could be wrong on that point. Let me know how you see it and how you think Chris's recent shenanigans would be best documented. Once everyone has discussed it we will probably have a good idea of the most efficient way of categorizing his recent behavior into Sagas. Apologies for wall of text,[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 11:33, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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*Really, though I can agree with your statement that Ebay Saga should be merged with Facebook Saga, (since there were many miscellaneous Facebook posts important to Chrisdom and Christory, the two sometimes connect with each other via Chris, and the 'ebay saga' only contains 2 fiascos that were really funny). Catherine should probably be its own saga, in my opinion, due to that stuff being related directly to a new sweetheart, but I could understand why you want it to be included as a "Tomgirl Saga, Part 2" sort of thing. On the other hand, Calling Out really has a enough content in relation to it, to be a saga, but is too big simply to be left as not a part of any saga. Since it was cut short by Bob's death, it should be considered its own saga.<br />
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In summary, I believe we should merge Facebook and Ebay Sagas, maybe merge Tomgirl and Catherine, but decouple Calling out from Tomgirl. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 21:53, 7 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== The Boxing Day Saga ==<br />
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Should there be a separate saga for SONIC'S ARMS ARE NOT FREAKING BLUE!!!<br />
I know that the saga is older than what I will now call the "Boxing Day GameStop Spritzing", but it has a nice, poetic ring to it.<br />
--Troll-chan Sonichu, 05/03/2015<br />
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No, That's Sonic Boom Saga.<br />
--Fredinno<br />
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== Should the Tom Girl Saga end? ==<br />
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Since Chris has stated on facebook that she is no longer a male she is a transwoman, and a female, should the Tom Girl Saga come to a close? .--[[User:Sinistersnare]] 14:13, 7 March 2015 (PDT)<br />
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== Is the Financhu Crisis worthy of a Saga? ==<br />
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chris has been begging for money for a while now, and with the mortgage of around $100,000 that barbara has to pay, i doubt it will end anytime soon.<br />
should it be made its' own unique saga? --Kettleonwater 8th September 2016 10:46am<br />
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I think so. Chris may have begged in the past for sex and his PSN account, but I am seeing a pattern recently of him begging for money. The Financhu Crisis Saga -galxylax 13 September 2016 20:06 PST<br />
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== Just throwing it out there ==<br />
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I feel the next soon starting saga will almost undoubtedly be either The Trump Saga, or the Partyvan saga; since many have been reporting his archived death threats. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 22:55, 14 November 2016 (UTC)<br />
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It's hard to say now. On one hand, the anti-Trump vitriol has reached levels of hatefulness on par with classic Chris's anti-gay agenda, and Chris's return to issuing death threats suggests that he's taken quite an exception to Trump's election. On the other hand, Chris is so lazy that unless the death threats/hate rhetoric become a regular thing (a la Financhu Crisis) or he takes overt actions to advance his agenda (a la Sonic Boom Protests), the whole issue may blow over after Trump takes office. There's been an issue in the past with Christorians jumping the gun on declaring new sagas. Sometimes they've called them right, other times it's turned out to be nothing. --[[User:Ujirat|Ujirat]] ([[User talk:Ujirat|talk]]) 23:39, 18 January 2017 (UTC)</div>
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<div>Add the sagas that we have from the [[List of Videos]] page and describe the overarching storylines in each. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 14:09, 19 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
*The current saga should be called the "Revalation" saga. --[[User:14recinez|14recinez]] 15:30, 14 September 2013 (EST)<br />
* Add information involving the Ebay stuff to the Facebook Saga section. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
* Add the 2014 sagas to the Sagas timeline. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
==Changes==<br />
So basically what I tried to do so far is sum up every saga in 3 images. Is this at all helpful? I can upload colour versions instead if we prefer, but I thought this looked kind of good. I can also put all of them together to make a MEGASAGA sort of image that we can add to as more sagas become apparent. What do we want? Or delete them if you think they are gay. If they are not gay, then I will finish the rest tomorrow. ALSO: I can make a vertically oriented timeline (like from a history book) showing how they progress and overlap. Or horizontally, whatever we want really. Just tell me. For now, I need to sleep. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:25, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
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* I actually really like these. [[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 03:38, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
:*I like them. Though I think that like, the subject of the saga should be in the center. Like, the Miyamoto saga, Reggie is in the middle when it really should be Miyamoto. If I may recommend one for Liquid, if there was a way to make it look like they're staring down each other, that'd be cool. Otherwise, nice work, I like the general idea. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:47, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
::*Your wish is my command. It is done. I think I got what you wanted for the Liquid saga too... Now what exactly? I can get started on a timeline. I guess I will work on making each subsection more introductory in the text too... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 20:49, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
::*So I have added some detail to give a bit more advanced insight on the sagas for this page. I hope it is helpful. Are there any other sagas that should be here? I assume not. What do we need to add to make this... complete... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 01:23, 25 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
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==Timeline==<br />
[[Image:Timeline.png|right]]<br />
So the timeline you see running here is one I made for this article. Problem, When I run it down the right side of the article it looks funny. At least I think it does. Try it. Should we put it there... or what? I will just work on the actual text of this article until we decide what to do about the imagery. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:33, 24 October 2009 (CEST)<br />
*I haven't heard any opinions on this and they claimed to like it in IRC so I have it running down the right. Revert it if you like. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 22:41, 25 October 2009 (CET)<br />
:*I like it a lot too. Having it up and down isn't orthodox but it's well suited for the media. Very nice job. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)<br />
*I think it looks great, but I think the information is a bit wrong... the Megan Saga went on through the beginning of 2008 and into the ED and Adam Stackhouse affairs. Hell, there wouldn't be a Stackhouse Saga without Megan. Otherwise, it looks good. <br />
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==Gregg Mays saga==<br />
Not sure if we should consider it part of Clyde Cash saga but we should consider a Gregg Mays saga to include all this Gregg Mays stuff. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:55, 30 October 2009 (CET)<br />
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==Jack Thaddeus Saga, anyone?==<br />
Or does anyone think it's too early? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 03:42, 2 January 2010 (CET)<br />
* I was about to suggest the same thing. With the [[Kill de Jack|recent]] [[To Clyde and Jack|videos]] aimed at him, the [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call|three]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 2|phone]] [[Jack Thaddeus Phone Call 3|calls]] and the CWCipedia ad shenanigans, not to mention [[It's UGH!|previous]] [[Chris humps his PS3|antics]], there seems to be enough material to warrant a new saga. --'''[[User:Lime|<font color="limegreen">L</font>]][[User_talk:Lime|<font color="limegreen">i</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|<font color="limegreen">m</font>]][[nudes|<font color="limegreen">e</font>]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 05:17, 8 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
** Don't forget about Asperchu in the future. Seeing how dedicated Alec is with it so far (and Jack just started advertising his wiki in CWCipedia), a Saga for that is inevitable! --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 05:32, 8 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
*** And I think it has begun! --[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 02:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
**** {{Asperchu}} [[Asperchu]] Saga. You like? --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 02:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
***** Very nice! Now how about Jack, anyone? --[[User:CWCAttack|CWCAttack]] 02:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
***** Awesome job on the icon! --'''[[User:Lime|<font color="limegreen">L</font>]][[User_talk:Lime|<font color="limegreen">i</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|<font color="limegreen">m</font>]][[nudes|<font color="limegreen">e</font>]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 02:09, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
===Actually...===<br />
Looking at recent edits, someone was adding a "Homosexual ad saga" to this page but it was reverted. While not a proper saga, I'd say it's a sort of mini saga and it's part of the Chris narrative, as it leads into Asperchu saga. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:49, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not sure I'd call the homosexual ads a saga by itself, but part of a CWCipedia saga? I'm certainly not part of the inner circle, but I imagine more hi-jinks involving the CWCipedia are in store. [[User:Chris fangs|Chris fangs]] 21:54, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
*I reverted it. It wasn't a proper saga, no. Even if it could be considered one, the information wasn't presented well enough. I first reverted the changes made to the timeline PNG[http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:Timeline.png], which also wasn't up to par. There could be a lead-in to the Asperchu Saga, sure, but I would vote no on calling it a saga. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
*I re-reverted because you're a huge faggot have a nice day [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]<br />
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*Actually, I changed my mind. If someone could make a better, more convincing presentation of it, go ahead. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:*I agree that the presentation on the timeline sucks, and the name "Homosexual ad saga" does as well. I think Chris fangs is onto something about it being called "CWCipedia saga" since in a way, the Mailbag is a way of trolling Chris and CWCipedia in general sorta inadvertently trolls Chris. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:20, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
::*Well, it seems I've angered someone. Not my intentions, to be sure. Anyway, CWCipedia Saga has a nice ring to it and it's relevant, since the Mailbag is certainly a repository of ongoing trolling. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:28, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
::*Champthom, I'll leave it to you to revert the timeline image/Saga page or not. I don't wish to get into a revert war over Chris Chan. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 22:34, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::*I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that you're right but so is Nitrocore. The concept of a saga invoking CWCipedia, perhaps call it CWCipedia saga, is good or maybe Jack Thaddeus saga (though I'm aiming at the former) but you are correct in that the write up and the name at the time did kinda suck, and we still need to work on the timeline. For starters, we need to get in touch with the original creator of the timeline or maybe start from scratch. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:58, 15 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
* Ha i win sucker, I actually like "Cwc saga" as well i was just adding stuff(unlike you) if you can combine it and possibly make it better with external links then I'm not bothered [[User:Nitrocore|Nitrocore]]<br />
::::*I went with the CWCipedia idea. It's a rough draft, but you get the idea. Nitro, if there is a next time, try not to act like a child. Also, sign your discussion edits with the timestamp. --[[User:Jewlay|Jewlay]] 00:37, 16 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==The CWCki Saga, anyone?==<br />
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I was going to start this, but decided otherwise unless objects to it, but what we got here is the start of a third saga - CWCki Saga. Chris knows about the CWCki and now he wants to take control of it. You think we should start gathering information on this?--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:19, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
*Damn. It's barely 24 hrs in and we are already talking about a saga! I think it is a tad too early to talk about a saga. Outside of "The WallFlower Incident", we got mostly nothing. Let's wait a little to see where it will goes. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:*I agree. Luckily, we'll probably find out two days from now, when his ultimatum gets ignored to death. If nothing comes of it, then nothing comes of it. If he spazzes out and does something really stupid, like threatening legal action or starting an epic edit war, then yeah. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 05:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Vanessa Saga==<br />
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My old pet project, probably not long or significant enough, but some pretty good videos and logs came from that --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 07:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
*Vanessa saga is one of the unsung tales of the overarching CWC saga and it's sorry that it isn't currently reflected here. However, perhaps now in retrospect it seems more to be part of Ivy saga, though Vanessa saga had dynamic elements and whatnot. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== more saga sum up images ==<br />
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we need a saga image for asperchu (not tito yet) and the cwikipedia saga--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 02:19, 20 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Heres a quick one i made for the game place, just to throw out the idea, can't use it since it doesn't match the others<br />
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== Tito saga ==<br />
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'''In December 2009, Chris released a page from Sonichu 10, which revealed a girl named [[Lovely Weather]]. Many trolls were confused as to why Chris would create a fictional love interest when previous issues used real life girls. The confusion continued when Chris revealed he had a gal-pal during some of his Mailbags.'''<br />
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Is it just me or does this seem to suggest that "Lovely Weather" is connected to [[The Wallflower]]? If so, this text is incorrect as Chris didn't meet Wallflower until January at the latest. Srsly guys. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:50, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
* Okay, I'll admit - I wrote that bit when it seemed like there was a connection between Weather and Wallflower. I'll alter it so it won't seem that way.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 13:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==IRL Saga?==<br />
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It might be too early for this, but if he keeps up these public creeper antics, methinks an "IRL Saga" would be appropriate. --[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 16:12, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
* I always thought it would be better to call everything that's happened since he "left" the Internet the "CWC Exile Saga". But, still, IRL Saga's just as good.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 16:24, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
**How about 'Reality Saga'? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:48, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
***If we're going to do that, we might as well include the Love Quest as a saga, since this sounds pretty much like a repeat of those events. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 17:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
**** I understand the reasoning behind that, though a good chunk of the Love Quest happened online within specific sagas. Personally, the only issue I would see with such a saga (CWC Exile is a great title) is that it overlaps with The GAMe PLACe and the last bit of Surfshack Tito.--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 01:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
***** I think, in a technical level, we're between sagas. We just simply have to wait and see what damn fool thing he does next. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 02:06, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Flipnote Hatena saga ==<br />
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Does it count as one yet? He's slowly cracking at the seams, and it could get worse. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 20:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
*It looks like it might form a saga as he goes along and breaks more Flipnote Waptena rules, so it's plausible. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 21:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
**Of course he's banned from uploading anything now. I think it was a bit short to count as a saga. A bit uneventful too, though that's just my thoughts on it. If everyone else thinks it could be considered it's own saga... Go for it.--[[User:Yoyoddd|Yoyoddd]] 10:07, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
***I look at this a bit like the Tito saga; very little actually was done to Chris, but it was his response to what happened that made it a saga. We have to wait and see how he reacts to the ban to see whether it's worthy or not. That's just my two cents though. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 10:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
****Maybe we should put "interim activities" as a separate category; nothing that fits the criteria for saga but still somewhat noteworthy. Chris being "off the internet" and on flipnote for a month could merit that. That way we could still fill out the periods between major sagas. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 14:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
*****Even if it doesn't count as a full-fledged "Saga" it was a pretty crazy two weeks. I'm not sure if he'll return to youtube as a result of his banning, but I'm sure he'll cap off the whole thing with an enraged complaint ''somewhere''.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 15:41, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==PS3 Saga?==<br />
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Before somebody already points it out, I know that the few destruction videos he put up doesn't count as a saga. I'm wondering if we should make a saga for the activities that lead to it's destruction. There's a lot of juicy info I'd like to catalog, but I don't know if it's officially over yet or not (And i also don't want to disrupt any trolling plans that may still be in motion). --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 15:04, 17 September 2010 (PDT)<br />
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==Missing Sagas==<br />
Why aren't the sagas caused by [[Vanessa_Saga|Joshua Martinez]] included on the saga list?<br />
*1) please sign your posts (it's four ~ in a row) 2) the stuff from Joshua Martinez is really part of Ivy saga. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
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==On Sagas==<br />
This isn't picking on anything that's going on here, but I was thinking and I think the term "saga" gets abused - not so much on here, mind you, but elsewhere but I think it sometimes spills over to the CWCki. <br />
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What is a saga? Like the article says, it's an overarching story in the life and times of Chris. For instance, let's take Miyamoto saga, which, also as the article says, what really started the whole "saga" thing. You have Chris and "Miyamoto" talking to each other over several weeks, and there's conflict between the two, then there's Reggie who gets involved, and then there's all the videos inbetween. If you watch a video from the saga without the context the saga arch provides, you're missing out on a lot. They're all intertwined, the content that is, and that's what the saga theme is all about, taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.<br />
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So what does this mean? You calling Chris is not "You calling Chris saga." Chris dressing up as a woman is not "Tomgirl saga." Seeing Chris at the mall is not "Chris at the mall saga." Chris does stuff, it doesn't need to fit in part of a narrative. It's sorta a chapter in the overarching saga that is Chris's life, but not a saga in itself. Secondly, I don't think sagas are really made. I think people expect to troll Chris and want some place on this page, wanting their own "Gigantic Attention Whore saga." Pretty much every saga wasn't intended to be a saga, it's not like they planned this all out, it's just going with the flow and it happens to have narrative to it. <br />
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I had more but I forgot what else I was going to say. But hopefully this will make sense and serve as a guide to what is a saga and what isn't, so much as how it should be included on the page.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:45, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
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*Actually, while we're talking about sagas, I'd like to ask for a bit of clarification on how saga related articles are named. Recent sagas for instance are just documented in the article on the appropriate person. The article on the Ivy Saga is called [[Ivy]] and the article on the Liquid Saga is called [[Liquid Chris]]. But then there are articles which are literally called [[Miyamoto Saga]] or [[Vanessa Saga]], which are full of emails just dumped there incomprehensibly. And this is in spite of there actually being articles for [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] and [[Vanessa Hudgens]]. Don't get me wrong, I realize the need to keep the crap ton of emails separate from the main articles, but the naming convention is just odd. I'm not quite sure, but I'm willing to bet it's Clyde's fault. What is the official policy on naming saga articles? Should they all be named as "X" or as "X Saga"? And while we're on it, some sagas have a weird little template documenting all things related to them. Two I can name are [[:Template:BlancaSaga]] and [[:Template:MeganSaga]]. I don't think they're bad. They could use a little cleanup, but I do have a problem with the fact that some sagas have them and others don't. They could serve as a great way to sum up everything and point users in the direction of content relevant to each saga, but as it is right now, there's no consistency in which sagas have them. What should we do? --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:29, 22 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
:*Good points. In regards to the e-mails, I guess people consider the bulk of the saga the e-mails or IM chats behind them, but perhaps we could rename them to be "Miyamoto Saga e-mails" or "Vanessa Saga chats"? It's probably Clyde's fault, at least for the Miyamoto e-mails. As for the templates, they probably could use cleaning up and the reason why some do and some don't is because people haven't gotten around to doing them for other templates (which can be something you can work on, if you so please). Definitely, make templates for each saga, that'd be a great way to present information. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:46, 23 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
::*Well if you think that's something for me to work on then I suppose I could have a go at it. It'd make a change from all the sonichu shit that I've been doing recently. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:41, 24 June 2011 (PDT)<br />
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== Individual Saga pages ==<br />
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I didn't know where to put this suggestion, so I'm putting it here. I was thinking we can give each Saga its own page. The pages would go into more detail about the saga, a summary of the events, and a listing of videos, emails, etc. in order by date. This serves to make a description about all events in the Saga from beginning to end, as there is none on the CWCki. The closest there is to it is the timeline with all of the years and months, but often times there are events irrelevant to the Saga and events in other Sagas happening. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 16:47, 2 January 2012 (PST)<br />
* EDIT: I noticed there are articles called "Vanessa Saga" and more, but those aren't the type of formats I'm talking about. Those pages are only content dumps, but what I'm talking about is much more organized.<br />
* I made a [[Tomgirl Saga]] page. If there's a problem with it, or if the page is a bad idea, speak now or I'll write pages for the other sagas. --[[User:American Christory X|American Christory X]] 09:56, 3 January 2012 (PST)<br />
*I still don't think that the whole Tomgirl thing is actually a saga, but I'll let other people debate that as that's mostly my opinion. The thing is, the articles about respective sagas tend to be in the page about the people involved. Like, most of the stuff with the Ivy saga is in the [[Ivy]] page, and the stuff about Liquid is on the [[Liquid Chris]] page. I see what you want to do and it does make sense but I think it might be redundant unless we totally rework these biographical articles so we're not saying the same stuff on two different pages.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:38, 4 January 2012 (PST)<br />
**I think that the question of whether or not every Saga deserves its own individual page should be decided on a case by case basis rather then collectively. I think that starting the article on the Tomgirl Saga was a good idea, but having articles such "Jackie Saga", "Blanca Saga" or "Julie Saga" will be redundant in my opinion. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] 06:44, 4 January 2012 (PST)<br />
*** i agree, this page handles the simplified explanations and servers as a nice jumping off point. There is plenty blue here to get you started and if you need details about the saga then read the details linked in blue :)<br />
* I was thinking this myself. Not every saga needs a seperate page but sagas which involved a lot of interaction in the form of Youtube videos between two parties would benefit from a seperate entry. I'm especially thinking of the Liquid Chris/CWCivil war ordeal. One page or a group of pages with the video interaction between the two in chronological order would be very useful. Maybe the Asperchu saga also? I was taking a break from Chris during that period and am still not too clear on the chronology of events. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 09:06, 15 July 2012 (PDT)<br />
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== Second Exile saga? ==<br />
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Chris hasn't done anything of note lately. His therapist may have banned him from the internet, and is most likely doing his service or playing video games. This may go on for a while, and might be considered a saga.--[[User:Germanicus|Germanicus]] 14:13, 8 October 2012 (PDT)<br />
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- I disagree. A time without content, I feel, shouldn't be considered a saga.--[[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] 13:01, 3 Feburary 2014<br />
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== Regarding the Catherine Saga ==<br />
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I'll put the section back once the Catherine drama goes further. Like Champthom said before that sagas are "taking stuff that happens to Chris and presenting it in a way that provides narrative and understanding.", I say wait and see until we can confirm it. Right now, it's still early to claim a new saga. Not to mention sagas are abused to death. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 14:33, 10 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
*I'll just share some comments I made in the chat on the CWCki Forums on the matter. Like I've said, the saga really should just be a tool to provide a narrative to what happens with Chris in specific periods. We probably have what constitutes a saga now - Chris is active on Facebook, he apparently has a girlfriend, he's trying to make money off eBay and Kickstarter, he's claiming to be fully transgendered. I'm inclined to call this "Facebook saga" as I feel the characterization of this saga is Chris's interactions with people on Facebook. It's unusual as we mostly focus on people but I think in this case, it might make sense to focus on the medium and not so much the persons involved. I feel that "Catherine saga" at this point is too narrow - we just have a single video and we're not really sure she's the main impetus behind this revival. To me at least, it seems sorta a side note compared to bigger picture things like Chris finally trying to earn money through his art and embracing transgenderism. <br />
:Ideally, we'd name this after the fact but it's helpful to have a label for us to refer to the events now. Most of the sagas were named after the fact or it was extremely obvious what to name it after - Chris was seeing Ivy, pretty much everything he did involved Ivy, so it made sense to call that the Ivy saga. But we're not really seeing the same thing here with Catherine. We're different from Wikipedia in the sense that you as the users have influence in determining what this is called. In a way, original research is acceptable here mostly because there's not really formal institutions that study autistic manchildren for a living. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 14:41, 10 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
*I have added some details to the Catherine and Sonic sagas, but I think that you are right about combining the Facebook saga point. A good deal of information from Catherine is not really typical trolling, but further information on Chris's condition as a Tomgirl and his general repulsive self. It may be a good idea to combine the two into some sort of saga, rather than having two separate sections.[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 13:30, 2 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Is there an "Ebay" Saga going on right now? ==<br />
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Considering all of the ebay stuff that has been going on for a while, like the situation with Mr. Smith, the Tribalism art, and such, should it be considered a saga? It's long enough to be considered as saga, but I'm wondering it there was enough content to validate it being called a saga. -Fredinno, Feb 3, 2014.<br />
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*I think it would be best to make a Facebook Saga, as Champthom suggested above. Maybe Catherine could also be mentioned here too? And his return to his art. [[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 21:13, 5 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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*I disagree, but I'm beaten, 3 to 1. Oh well, I guess I'll combine those two together. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:01, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Tomgirl Saga vs Calling Out Saga ==<br />
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Should the Calling Out Saga be separated from the Tomgirl Saga? The two things, in my opinion, are very different from each other, and many people from the Cwcki Forums, including me, believe the two are different Sagas. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 05:14, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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*You are right, they are two different things, but I think the reason they have been put together is because it's part of Chris's Tomgirl phase. I don't really think Calling Out qualifies as a Saga in its own right, so, personally, I would argue against giving it its own section. I am assuming it was added to give a bit more volume to the Tomgirl Saga, but, now that we have more information on Chris's Tomgirl antics, we could replace Calling Out with something else. <br />
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*So, to link back to what we were talking about above, I guess maybe Catherine could go with Tomgirl - as Chris's first lesbian encounter. The eBay stuff could then go to a Facebook Saga because it marks a change in both Chris's personality, since he has become more withdrawn, and how he communicates, being far more paranoid and holding court only to a select few. Obviously, this withdrawal has also come about from Bob's death, and also why he is allegedly selling stuff on eBay because he claims to need the money more for him and Barb. So, here you can see a link between the change in Chris and ''why'' he has returned to making his artwork and selling stuff, but it also demonstrates a change in how trolling Chris has changed. Granted, he's still being trolled, but it's not as abrasive as it once was because it can only be done through eBay - again because Chris has cut off all contact.<br />
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*Anyway, if you see the links there that I'm thinking of, you'll understand why I want to merge the eBay Saga with Facebook, plus I don't really think enough happened for it to warrant a Saga in its own right, but I haven't seen the pages on the wiki to document it so I could be wrong on that point. Let me know how you see it and how you think Chris's recent shenanigans would be best documented. Once everyone has discussed it we will probably have a good idea of the most efficient way of categorizing his recent behavior into Sagas. Apologies for wall of text,[[User:Kaltenbrunner|Kaltenbrunner]] ([[User talk:Kaltenbrunner|talk]]) 11:33, 6 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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*Really, though I can agree with your statement that Ebay Saga should be merged with Facebook Saga, (since there were many miscellaneous Facebook posts important to Chrisdom and Christory, the two sometimes connect with each other via Chris, and the 'ebay saga' only contains 2 fiascos that were really funny). Catherine should probably be its own saga, in my opinion, due to that stuff being related directly to a new sweetheart, but I could understand why you want it to be included as a "Tomgirl Saga, Part 2" sort of thing. On the other hand, Calling Out really has a enough content in relation to it, to be a saga, but is too big simply to be left as not a part of any saga. Since it was cut short by Bob's death, it should be considered its own saga.<br />
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In summary, I believe we should merge Facebook and Ebay Sagas, maybe merge Tomgirl and Catherine, but decouple Calling out from Tomgirl. [[User:Fredinno|Fredinno]] ([[User talk:Fredinno|talk]]) 21:53, 7 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== The Boxing Day Saga ==<br />
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Should there be a separate saga for SONIC'S ARMS ARE NOT FREAKING BLUE!!!<br />
I know that the saga is older than what I will now call the "Boxing Day GameStop Spritzing", but it has a nice, poetic ring to it.<br />
--Troll-chan Sonichu, 05/03/2015<br />
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No, That's Sonic Boom Saga.<br />
--Fredinno<br />
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== Should the Tom Girl Saga end? ==<br />
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Since Chris has stated on facebook that she is no longer a male she is a transwoman, and a female, should the Tom Girl Saga come to a close? .--[[User:Sinistersnare]] 14:13, 7 March 2015 (PDT)<br />
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== Is the Financhu Crisis worthy of a Saga? ==<br />
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chris has been begging for money for a while now, and with the mortgage of around $100,000 that barbara has to pay, i doubt it will end anytime soon.<br />
should it be made its' own unique saga? --Kettleonwater 8th September 2016 10:46am<br />
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I think so. Chris may have begged in the past for sex and his PSN account, but I am seeing a pattern recently of him begging for money. The Financhu Crisis Saga -galxylax 13 September 2016 20:06 PST<br />
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== Just throwing it out there ==<br />
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I feel the next soon starting saga will almost undoubtedly be either The Trump Saga, or the Partyvan saga; since many have been reporting his archived death threats. --[[User:The World Is Yours|The World Is Yours]] ([[User talk:The World Is Yours|talk]]) 22:55, 14 November 2016 (UTC)<br />
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It's hard to say now. On one hand, the anti-Trump vitriol has reached levels of hatefulness on par with classic Chris's anti-gay agenda, and Chris's return to issuing death threats suggests that he's taken quite an exception to Trump's election. On the other hand, Chris is so lazy that unless the death threats/hate rhetoric become a regular thing (a la Financhu Crisis) or he takes overt actions to advance his agenda (a la Sonic Boom Protests), the whole issue may blow over after Trump takes office. --[[User:Ujirat|Ujirat]] ([[User talk:Ujirat|talk]]) 23:39, 18 January 2017 (UTC)</div>
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