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Talk:Greene County Conspiracy

2010-05-10T11:02:16Z

Yoshi2021:

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Starting transcription [[User:Urist|Urist]] 04:55, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

A video was released earlier by solidsnakeproductions giving a gay craigslist user looking for good times directions to Chris' house...could this be why he made this video? [[User:LouisLash|LouisLash]] 2:14, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*Doubtful. By the sounds of it, Chris won tickets for some sporting event, no one wanted to go with his smelly ass and when he did go, he was reminded he was a [[Virgin with rage]] by the lovey-dovey couple beside him. Thus, he decided to go after others, blaming ''two fucking counties'' for playing Kick the Autistic!--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:17, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

==Rename==
I know, it just got put up, but this page needs a better name. I vote for either "Chris Whines The Blues" or "The Greene County Conspiracy"--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:09, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*Moving it here, so it can be seen.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:15, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*I like "The Greene County Conspiracy". -[[User:Ezra Mason|Ezra Mason]] 05:39, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
**That name sounds good.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 22:15, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
**"The Greene County Conspiracy" is great. [[User:Kynes|Kynes]] 00:42, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

What's the "100 2178" supposed to mean--is it just random gibberish for blank videos or is there some meaning to it?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 06:31, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*No, that's just the file number Chris uploaded this to.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 06:33, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Who wants to note all the aesthetic similarities to [[Song of Christian]]? We could call it Song of Christian II : Electric Boogaloo. [[User:TheBrownSonichu|TheBrownSonichu]] 07:34, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*/sign --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 23:32, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Why don't we just call it 8 May 2010? --[[User:Aldrasio|Aldrasio]] 10:52, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*8 May 2010 is the proper thing to call this. That said, if we're gonna give it a custom title, I would suggest "Chris looks back".--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 16:06, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*I'd suggest "Chris Breaks Down". [[User:N. Onymous|N. Onymous]] 22:15, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*How about "The Bourne Autistic" or "eternal despair of the autistic mind" or simply "Chris has 0 friends" or "Chris has 0 friends (the Greene county conspiracy uncovered)"-[[User:OfficerBagget|OfficerBagget]] 23:37, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*I think it should be called 'Chris goes emo' --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 23:47, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

*Yes, it's not a useful name but as we've discussed before, ideally we should be keeping Chris's original naming. I'd rather leave it, to be honest. If people have people locating this video, we'll consider renaming it then, unless someone has a more compelling argument. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:57, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

*I vote for "The Greene County Conspiracy."

*I would vote for "Chris Gets the Greene County Blues." See its funny cause green and blue are colors that go well together! Barring that, I'd say "The Greene County Conspiracy" would be a great choice title. --This post brought to you by [[User:ShotgunJones|ShotgunJones]] 02:44, 10 May 2010 (UTC). Thanks for reading!

==Cry some more, Chris==
Hahahahahaha! His tears taste magnificent! Greatest CWC video in a while. We're fucking breaking him. [[User:CrookedSmirk|CrookedSmirk]] 05:30, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*"We" didn't do shit. Chris did this to himself, yet again proving that no one trolls Chris better than Chris. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 07:46 9 May 2010 (UTC)

==Pertinence==
This is worth mentioning in so many other articles. Namely, the articles on [[reality]] and his [[ego]] come to mind. It's a conspiracy, folks! -[[User:Ezra Mason|Ezra Mason]] 05:39, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*Maybe we could link his newletter to here to show another way he is similar to a conspiracy theorist.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 22:17, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

== Chris's Shirt. ==

Hey everyone. I make a crappy smalltime riffing video series for fun, and I decided to ''possibly'' riff this video. I typically brighten videos up when I riff them if they're retardedly dark, and I noticed no one had an idea of what shirt he's wearing, so I took a screencap of my best effort to brighten Chris's day.

http://imgur.com/ygTLM.jpg

It appears to be a new shirt, either a tank top or a tee with the sleeves rolled up, with what I ''believe'' to be the Hogwarts shield on it. Chances are I'm wrong on that, though.

Also, I've noticed he's lost ''alot'' of hair. That may be the reason why he's obstructing himself.

I hope it helps! --[[User:ToyoWolf|Kimo]] 05:45, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
* First of all, it looks like the shirt's an orange ''Sonic Heroes'' t-shirt. The little emblem by his left manboob looks like the ''Sonic Heroes'' logo. Second of all, holy shit, where did his hair go?! I know he had more than that when he did that video gloating over removing that piece!--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 05:48, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

* That frame exaggerates the state of his hair. The camera isn't looking straight at him like it is in the beginning, and the aspect ratio hasn't been enforced. Here's another frame: http://i.imgur.com/Ic9XE.jpg --[[User:Lurker|Lurker]] 06:20, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

* Ah, crap, I forgot I changed the ratio. Sorry about that x3

Yes, this one is much better. I can tell there is a character in that emblem on his shirt, but I'm not sure who it is... It looks like either Dee Dee from Dexter's Lab or XJ9 from My Life As A Teenage Robot to me. It also looks like there's a...rocketship? I believe? --[[User:ToyoWolf|Kimo]] 06:26, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Almost thought it was the shirt from "10 September 2009" since the first person mentioned rolling up the sleeves, until I saw the emblem. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 07:16, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

* Isn't this the "Jerkop" shirt he used to wear during the Ivy saga? It looks orange in this video and the "Jerkop" one is bright yellow, but seeing how bad the quality is... --[[User:Goronian|Goronian]] 12:28, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

==The Conspiracy==
I guess I misunderstood the video, because I thought Chris was whining that he would have had a better life in Chesterfield county, but the Chandlers got stuck in Greene county because they couldn't sell the house they are currently living in. Could somebody help a poor slow-in-the-mind like me figure this out? Thanks in advance (please type slowly). [[User:Squirrelbait|Squirrelbait]] 06:17, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*Assuming what Chris is telling us is true, I reckon it goes like this. For about the latter five years of the 90s, 14 Branchland Court in Ruckersville was empty while the Chandlers lived in Richmond and Chris was in high school. If they'd successfully sold 14 Branchland Court, they would have had the money to buy a permanent place in the Richmond area. Since they couldn't sell it, it wasn't cost-effective to keep renting homes in Richmond while also paying property taxes on the Ruckersville house and letting it fall into even worse disrepair. Thus, the move back to Ruckersville after Chris graduated high school. Which more or less rings true to me, altogether. (The part about realtors conspiring with the school district...well, yeah.) Anyway, I updated a couple of the articles on Chris's homes with this data, I think I hit the main ones that needed it. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 06:26, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

(1) Chris attends elementary school in Greene County, where sitting on the principal's lap gives him homophobia and a group of teachers abuses him by holding him down and recording his screams and cries. The school board wants him institutionalized so his family moves to Chesterfield County, but keep their house in Greene County.
(2) Chris goes to school in Chesterfield County, where he Comes Out of His Autistic Shell, makes lots of Gal-Pals, and creates Sonichu.
(3) Chris graduates and moves back to Greene County, away from all of his Gal-Pals, and begins his decline. PVCC is in Greene County. If his family had been able to sell their house (it sounds like they must not have had any interest in selling their house) then they would still live in Chesterfield County. You can see pictures of the move in A Week In The Life of Christian Weston Chandler, which is about his High School graduation [[User:Urist|Urist]] 06:25, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Simple answer: Chris is blaming everyone else for his problems. How do you not get how this works? [[User:BrokenDead89|BrokenDead89]] 06:30, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

tl;dr, everything bad in Chris's life is the fault of <s>Adam Stackhouse</s> <s>Joshua Martinez</s> <s>Jerkops</s> <s>Clyde Cash</s> <s>THE IMPOSTOR</s> <s>That Damn ED Page</s> <s>The Cwcki</s> <s>Michael Snyder</s> <s>Ms. Roach the Babysitter</s> <s>Chris's principal</s> The Greene County School Board of the early 1990s. [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 06:32, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, guys, it's making sense now (as much as anything Chris-related can). I think the article on this video has the Greene and Chesterfield houses mixed up, which derailed me. [[User:Squirrelbait|Squirrelbait]] 06:34, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*You're right, the summary had that mixed up. Good catch. Fixed that and added a link. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 06:41, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

*Wait, I'm confused now. Was Greene County involved with the two bugs in his PS3? I guess that makes since, because county officials would have the access. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 09:27, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

==The end of the Y.A.S.G. as we know it==

The line regarding his attempt to find someone in his congregation to with him at the "Extreme Sports" show is revealing. Not only he used Rocky to find friends to go with him, none of them called him back. This is, for me, a proof that we can move the infamous "Young Adult Social Group" in the list of people who doesn't love Chris. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 07:39, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

*To that end, I've added a dramatic visual recreation of the event. --[[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 09:00, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

**From what it sounds like, Chris has finally realized how socially isolated he has become, and instead of examining his behavior to see if their are any faults, he blames everyone in life that he has viewed as being mean to him. Now that even his YSAG no longer supports him or even wants to be around him, he has eventually realized that he has no friends. Apparently, this realization is so ego-shattering to Chris, he has to find other forces that are at fault for this, even though this is a problem that he specifically created... I also believe this video was purposely done in silhouette, because he doesn't want the "trolls" to see him cry. As stupid as he is, he has proven in past videos that he is capable of shooting a decently lit video. As we can all recall, when Chris was kicked out of his english class as PVCC, he was extremely distraught because no one was there to comfort him. Now that he's realized he has no one to comfort him again, perhaps we can see more drastic actions in the future: The return to stalking women in stores, trying to "be at the sociable places", and perhaps even a renewed push in the sweetheart search. That's my 2 cents --[[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 11:49, 9 May 2010 (EST)

==Holy shit, guys==

Inb4 not a forum, I just want to say that I can't fucking believe that anyone would be so idiotic. I've followed this guy for months now, but fucking hell, even the stupidest people I know have the intelligence not to blame their elementary school for people not liking them, and many of the people I know are going to flunk out of high school. Holy fucking shit. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 10:36, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:We've been following him for years; this is childs' play. I don't know about you guys, but "You're all just immature, naive, condescending, soulless monsters." fits me to the letter --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 10:50, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

== The radio call in contest ==

Would it be possible to look into 95.1's archives to find a recording of Chris winning? --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 12:11, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
*Heh, I just looked up the radio station on google to try to do this, and the tag is "Z95 Today's hits and yesterday's favorites, music for women." P.S. I'm looking now. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 12:14, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

==The contest itself==

I am trying to find info on the event itself. All I could is find the stadium where the event took place, in the university of Virgina, but that's it. I can't find the event Chris went to. Any suggestions? Maybe I can get a picture of Chris as a contest winner. --[[User:Yoshi2021|Yoshi2021]] 11:02, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Greene County Conspiracy

2010-05-10T11:01:30Z

Yoshi2021:

Talk:The Wallflower

2010-05-04T11:28:57Z

Yoshi2021:

==Ye olde shit==

Okay faggots, listen up. No personal details. Ever. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
* Would photos of her count as personal details? There's a photo on this page clearly showing her. --[[User:Marco|Marco]] 01:54, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
** If you're referring to the photo that's currently up there it's a shop - in particular, the facial features are so different that nobody could possibly connect her to the picture unless they'd seen the source photo. --[[User:Team CWCket|Team CWCket]] 11:16, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
*Gotcha. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 01:18, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**Am I missing something here? Didn't Chris just inform us that this girl is no longer interested in him, with Message to the Trolls? So why are we locking down details about her now, when EDF can do no more damage? Or is there more to this?--[[User:Sonichuistehcool|Sonichuistehcool]] 01:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I'm sure that she got some sort of email/phone call, but we don't know enough about her or the situation to assume that she's fully out of the picture. Until then, it's better to have less info than too much info. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 01:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Some explanation please? I mean, all the other galpal articles have info, what happened here? [[User:Dave|Dave]]
*i have received a message from wallflower herself asking for her info to be removed. while i'd rather not remove any information, at the same time, the article was focusing on personal details about the wallflower that weren't at all related to chris. since i'd rather avoid any trouble here, i've complied with her request. this new article should be used purely for chris-related information, since she is part of christory. if chris uploads information, then you can add it here, but don't add anything you found through internet investigation or whatever. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 01:28, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
** A'ight, but can we have a background on the story on cwcki? You know, what happened for them to break up and stuff. [[User:Loserbrain|Loserbrain]] 01:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*** There's no break up as far as I know. But I'm sure something must have happened between yesterday and today. We can document the drama but be vague. Example: Dedicated trolls found her information and then Chris got mad. Real mad. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****Does this mean all the sweetheart pages are going to be changed? -PeaceCeapPea
*****Most of the sweethearts were trolls. Megan avoid this site like rape, so I don't think we need to worry about it. [[User:Loserbrain|Loserbrain]] 02:32, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*Why are we doing this? Didn't Megan ask us for her dox to be taken off the internet? How do we know the message wasn't sent by a troll or a white knight?--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 02:12, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**Have you seen the latest video from Chris? He found the CWCki. I guess "WallFlower" used Google. Another thing; Chris volunteered the info we got on him. She dint. We dint passed the Dox of other sweethearts or made fun of them as we did with her. Just for this, It had to be removed. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 02:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*My apologies for deleting this page this page. I just woke up and I was confused about what the fuck was going on. I thought some faggot thought Chris was talking about two different girls. I absolutely agree with Cogs one hundred percent, if Wallflower requested this page to be taken down, I think that's a humble request given that the article was a threat to her wellbeing. It's not so much trying to cover our asses, I really can understand that the Wallflower (unlike Megan, who really didn't have much of an online presence) would have trolls be a very real threat and unlike Chris, she probably doesn't feed off negative attention.
:I regret that I did not address the dox in the pages. I really wasn't a big fan of having her Facebook, MySpace, etc. profile on there, aside from Chris related issues, mostly because we don't do the same thing for Megan and we shouldn't encourage faggots trolling Chris related people who have little to do with Chris.
:I think one lesson from this is we need to discuss some sort of privacy policy for CWCki. A less brash version of Clyde's dictum is that we should possibly treat pages about people only from the Chris universe perspective, that is how Chris views them and sees them as opposed to digging into personal details from online investigations. But yeah, people, let's not do shit like post MySpaces, Facebooks, and don't post people's personal information unless Chris posts it on the Internet for everyone to see. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:46, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:* Seems fair enough. There was, in retrospect, no hope of keeping a lid on this whole thing, I think, no matter how much or how little personal info got posted here - as soon as her given name got out there, it was inevitable that some goof was gonna link her to this or to the ED page or to the sex doll video or whatever else. But that seems like a good policy for simple decency's sake. I apologize for getting carried away with all the links on the page yesterday. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 12:59, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

*I think the wording of this article should be more explicit as to how and what kind of idiot it was that contacted her over all this. I mean most EDF retards won't read krapple or PVCC etc. but they do read the Cwcki, and it might help in the future to have here an example to hold up of what exactly happens when you go the JULAYYY route of trolling. [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 02:37, 11 March 2010 (UTC) 02:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

**Who cares about it, it seems something else is stirring within Chris. Guess he still has it out for me. Hmph. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 07:57, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

***I think we ought to be more careful with the information we post here. Most if not all CWCki contributors are either on /cwc/ or PVCC, but the readers are partially dumbasses (not just from EDF, I presume) who will fuck shit up. Yes, it's a shame this happens, but ultimately we are to blame here. It was very obvious the CWCki article on her would lead to someone contacting her. Documenting information is important, but perhaps there should be some articles protected from viewing? I don't know. --[[User:Wtv|Wtv]] 10:48, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*combine with the sonichu crystals to the [Wallflower] page?? [[user:I_Love_Little_Girls|I Love Little Girls]] 10:23, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::no they want that page gone, that's why it's over here without any references to her personally. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 11:03, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::oh, i see. whatevss [[user:I_Love_Little_Girls|I Love Little Girls]] 11:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*Yeah, I thought the same thing so don't feel bad. tl;dr is that Wallflower asked for it to be removed and Cogs complied, because it was a reasonable request. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

*Wow, now we turned into Moralfags and we are going to censor trolling, for the sake of the trolls who already know who she is. Also, it is not that difficult to do a fucking google search and found everything there is to found about this girl, so this is just stupid. If you had any respect in the first place for any of the friends or family of chris chan you would not have all the information you have on them all over the page, and that's not the case, so for what I can see here this is a very hypocritical position, or this is just part of a trolling plan.--[[User:SGSS01|SGSS01]] 10:04, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:One, we're not Moralfags.
Two, the dox was removed by her request.
Three, if we put the dox back up, she could net us some downtime for invading her privacy and personal life.
So fuck off. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 21:18, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::Taking down the page because we put information already publicly available on the internet?, lulz, let her send in detectives, send in police, send everything in her power!. I'm sorry but that's not a valid reason, we have personal information about a lot of persons, and many of those don't even use the internet, or is information we got from hacked mail accounts (Cole), and fuck, he really could take the site down just for that, and we still have his article.--[[User:SGSS01|SGSS01]] 03:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:::There's a legal liability out there. Chris says most of what he wants. If he sue the site for libel, he will lose since all the material here mostly came from his own (dirty) hands. Wallflower on the other side came from nowhere and the tone used to describe her was quite unflattering. Keeping Wallflower previous page on line would had brought to this site much trouble (including legal ones) so it was wise to shut it down. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:46, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:::* What about the things that were coerced from him? Do those fall under acceptable use or not?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:12, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
::::*Coercing implies some form of entrapment. At any time Chris had the possibility to walk out and stop posting on the net as Chris-Chan. He dint. Up to there, humping his PS3 is on fact voluntary from his part. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:11, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:We can put name what is she going to do? Chris reveal her name. We are NOT moralfags. If its on the internet its public information (as long as it is not credit card numbers, passwords, or SSN) we are just data mining. --[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 21:30, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::Any troll can go data-mining. We are not trolls, we are Christorians; Holy scribes monitoring the advent and life of the "Messiah Of Fail". It is in our upmost interest to play nice. How many of us would salivate over an e-mail of five lines from Megan ranting about Chris? Let's be nice to the Wallflower; she might bring us something great in the future. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
==Srsly though...==
To improve the article:
# Wallflower really isn't a sweetheart. Nothing public about this yet but as most of you can tell, she's more or less Megan - because she has managed to be around Chris for more than five seconds, Chris takes this to mean sexual interest and a serious relationship.
# We need a pic of a Wallflower. Like, literally, a flower growing out of a wall. Not a drawn pic, but an actual photograph. Shouldn't be too hard to fine, just don't feel like it now. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
[[File:ClydeandLovelyweather.jpg|thumb|center]]
Here you go a photo of what resembles Heather with Clyde Cash --[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 04:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:"We need a pic of a Wallflower. Like, literally, a flower growing out of a wall." Moralfag my ass. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 02:20, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

[[File:Aliteralallflower.jpg|thumb|center]]--[[User:Curseshot|Curseshot]] 21:39, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
:You're winner. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 02:20, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

==Pimp Claim Responsibility==

This bloke known on YouTube as "ThyEnvysGreed" claim he's the one who [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRr-N5_V_9s alerted wallflower]. What should we do with this faggot? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
* It's possible the guy's full of shit and just taking credit for something. Going by the comments 'they' have been making, this is quite likely; his 'group' seems to be out to make a name for themselves rather than just have a laugh at Chris's expense. Aside from that, just do what everyone seems to be doing already; spam his comments informing him of what a massive prick he is and that he should lay off the fucking donuts. [[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 16:51, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:*This. Seriously, guys, let's not give credit to faggots who want attention. Damage is done, we need to move on. Besides [[CWCki:CWCki_is#CWCki_is_about_Chris|CWCki is about Chris]], not so much faggots like this. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:12, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**I agree with the comment spamming, just piledrive him into the dirt. He fucked up an opportunity for some awesome shit. I would understand if he were trying to get a laugh out of messing with Chris, but he's just looking for e-fame. I say we don't give him that much attention unless it's totally negative.--[[User:JRampancy|JRampancy]] 16:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I'll need to find the picture I saw on /cwc/, but he also had an account on Fanfiction.net and I think that's how he alerted her, since I don't think they allow anonymous reviews anymore. And it was the same screen name.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 17:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****Well gentlemen, I believe it's time to do what we do best. IT'S TROLLING TIME, LADS.[[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 17:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*Faggot deleted it. Did anyone save it? '''[[User:Odettafag|blind justice.]]''' [[User talk:Odettafag|to each his own.]] 18:11, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
** [http://rs336.rapidshare.com/files/362046356/whatafuckingtard.flv It's right there] [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:02, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*** Thanks! '''[[User:Odettafag|blind justice.]]''' [[User talk:Odettafag|to each his own.]] 19:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
He's a troll, you guys. Attention will only make him stronger unless we find his house (which is unlikely). Until someone can dox him, the best course of action is to ignore him, depriving him of his e-fame. Bonus points if fifty different accounts simultaneously claim that they're the ones who pissed off Wallflower so nobody takes his claims seriously.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 18:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I can't believe he tucked tail and ran away so quickly. He did post on [[A message to the Trolls]] which is still there for the viewing. [[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 20:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)meeko
***There's also a message in [[Don't Mess With Me]], still in plain view and for all to see. He's like The Pinch - a coward who wants e-fame. Pure and simple.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 21:07, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*He destroyed your guy's plans to get drama out of a guy! Oh no. Just calm down. Seriously, it's not a big deal. [[User:Chaosakita|Chaosakita]] 05:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:* It is. Chris is the most interesting when conversing with "normal" people - especially women. --[[User:Derpalerp|Derpalerp]] 08:28, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

** I found anothe possible leaker on twitter he/she says and I quote "Sonichuproducts @CWCSonichu I dare your faggot ass to do a curse ya fuck yo momma or whatever it is on me, I told Heather you dirty Retarded bitch."

could it be a lead or just an attention seeking fag?--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 23:17, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
*Krapple did a bit of detective work and found that he has another account-"6thof66" or something like that. Calls himself "the Agonstic Saint" and says he rejected his real name- his friends call him Sage after some wise man, according to him. He's 24 and lives somewhere in Texas. He lives alone and cut off all ties with his family. His videos there are mostly of him bitching and moaning about religion in general and Christianity in particular. Most importantly, one of his videos shows his license plate number- BJ6-G449. Make the most of it.--[[User:This guy|This guy]] 14:17, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
**Never mind, the above isn't thyenvysgreed. It was a fake lead put by a butthurt ED lurker with a grudge. He still looks like he's worth trolling, though.--[[User:This guy|This guy]] 14:43, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
==Now that Chris has dropped her name...==
Is it ok to mention her first name on this page?--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 15:41, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
*You have a point, and I see the logic, but I think the whole point of removing her name was sending a message to the rest of the trolls (and the external observers) that we are actually decent people. To go back on that would be to lose a social lead which is more valuable than the person's name. Again, this is just what I think. Feel free to prove me wrong. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 15:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
*But there is no point in hiding her name, the problem with his page was the loads of information about her, not related to Chris, and since Chris mentioned her name; her name, her relation to Chris and anything Chris related shall be posted here, no more info about her. [[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 16:05, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:*You make a fair point, however given that Chris 1) assumes that it's a video only Tito will watch (forgetting that public YouTube videos are, you know, public) and 2) he's retarded like that, the thought that mentioning her name again probably didn't cross his mind. However, Wallflower asked us nicely to remove her page and adding her name back would sort of violate the spirit of that agreement. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:56, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::* I understand, but then, should we censor part of the kilt video when Chris says her name?, of course, keeping a copy of the original, and linking it on the page, and replacing her name with the pseudonym in the transcript. Better safe than sorry.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 17:31, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*In my opinion, censoring the material would only draw more attention to the Wallflower's identity. People would start looking at the stuff that has been deliberately removed and get more and more curious and try to find it. Especially if we have a copy of video with the name bleeped or transcript with the name removed, while Chris has the actual video up on his own account. My idea would be ''not'' to cover her identity specifically (which this article already does that), but if Chris keeps rambling about it, there's little we can really do. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 17:53, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::::* But this page, as well as the LittleBigPlanet one reference the wallflower's name and her likes, is not really hard to find her anyways.By the way, someone already censored it in the kilt video.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 18:24, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::* It would be nice if someone contact Wallflower and tells her that Chris keep on yelling her name on the internet while wearing a dress. I am concerned with all this. A well-determined Grieffer can still reach her because the manchild can't keep his pie-hole shut.[[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::**I've sent two messages to her on Facebook and she hasn't responded yet. Also, PVCC isn't telling us something--Scarlet/Kim/Emily knows Heather, according to Chris.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 18:38, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::***Interesting twist. In this case, our best option is to lie down and wait for the PVCC to make their moves. They always bring the best Lulz. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:32, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
No. The CWCki needs to be smart about this kind of thing. When a person is angry about Chris's antics and actively asks the CWCki to take their information down, that person should be respected. It's fine to document Chris's antics that he publicly puts online, but Wallflower did not ask to be a part of Chris's online life and has specifically tried to distance herself from all this. For that matter, I'm of the opinion that if Megan ever came to the CWCki and asked to have materials taken down or hidden, it should be done, too. Same goes for Bob, Barb or anyone else who has not deliberately made themselves a part of Chris's online life. If a person deliberately makes themselves a part of Chris's online life, then their "details" are a fair thing to put up. If they are trying as hard as they can to get away from Chris's online life, then their "details" should be respected. The CWCki needs to be wise when it comes to liabilities. It is one thing to put up Chris's funny antics that he's made known publicly. It is another thing to put up unnecessary personal details of a person who has never asked to associate with Chris in a public way. Besides, all said and done, there's no need to document her name or her personal information to track Chris's stupid antics. It doesn't make Chris's antics any more funny. This brings up a great debate for the CWCki though: how far is too far? For me, I would hope there are limits. This is not a "lulz" site. [[User:Elephant|Elephant]] 20:28, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

:::My two cents is adding first name is ok since he mentioned it and it is an unspecific referential index, which means it is vague. I don't see a problem with putting their names online since you can get records with their names on it from realtors, department of elections, white pages, or the city accessor's office for free. We should put in Damian Antaria and Heather into the article since Chris mentioned it. The CWCki '''Only''' records encounters with Chris not personal information such as SSN or credit card numbers. By your logic we would have to take down the site if Chris makes the request which is NOT going to happen. The CWCki site is only recording what Chris is doing. If anyone is to be held liable it is Chris for revealing the information. For example: ''When Scooter Libby leaked info on Valerie Plame the CIA agent to the New York Times, the New York Times did not get in trouble'' If trolls wanted to find the information they would with or without the CWCki. --[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 20:52, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I support her name not neing intentionally added here. I do, however, think it is stupid to try to hide her name intentionally. I think we should refer to her as the Wallflower, but if Chris says it in a video, merely changing it in the transcript is not only ineffective, it is annoying. If he presents the information, it takes 2 seconds to watch the video and hear the name. We let it stay in the transcripts merely for the sake of flow, but then we don't call her by that name anywhere else. I think that will give everyone pretty much what they want, as her name is not spread and her info is not known, but it isn't an eyesore to read and I don't have to be constantly reminded that I'm not supposed to know her name.
Tl;dr: Hiding the name on purpose is futile and, in a selfish light, detracts from my experience (which I rail against with full force). Don't take it out of what he says, but don't put it up elsewhere. That also means that the people who missed all this won't go insane trying to find info. Meh, my idea sucks, but I'll put it out there. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 21:44, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
* I agree that it's easy to put the information together; if you Google up the information that Chris has given, you can find her easily. I think we should do more or less as you've said- present exactly what Chris says and not link the two together. Anyone who is really confused can look it up. It's no less confusing to a newb, IMO, than the articles that refer to Chris as "Ian" and Liquid as "Chris". [[User:BubblegumPinkButler|BubblegumPinkButler]] 00:21, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
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* In case no one has been keeping tabs, the alias currently in the page had been discarded, so now we should be completely safe. (Did one of you talk to her?) --[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 02:56, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
* For those of you keeping score at home, Chris himself has published her full name on the Cwcipedia under an exhaustive list of 'Past Sweethearts'. (yes yes ffffffff, goddammit chris, etc etc) Considering this nugget of fail was yielded unprovoked by the manchild, would it be against the 'no irl names' rule on this page to at least link to his cwcipedia page on here? [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 02:27, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
== Suggested Name Change ==

In his most recent [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|video]], Chris refers to the wallflower as "Damian Antaria". I suggest we change the article to reflect this. "The wallflower" is simply a name the trolls gave her. Our purpose here is to document Chris, and so, if this is what he calls her, this is what we call her. This isn't meant to throw her personal information out there, or even link this article to her writings. If Chris wants to give us this name, then that's her name. Just saying. What do you guys think? --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 23:17, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
:I disagree for two reasons; First, Wallflower asked that we remove all her personal info. This includes, in my opinion, her pen name. Then, many Christorians out-there have adopted the name "Wallflower" to name her. Why changing that good habit and risking confusion? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 00:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

:Because [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Template:Captain%27s_Log&oldid=4013| Chris thinks we took this page down because he told us to]. I think we need to make it clear that we removed the information because "Damian Antaria" asked us to, not due to Chris' bloated ego and aggressive, one-sided demands --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 02:31, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

:: Chris probably just takes quick looks at the pages, i doubt that changing the name will have any effect on him, besides, the page states ""The Wallflower" aka Damian Antaria...", so, there is no need for a name change, it would be like changing articles like " Punchy sonichu" to "Punchy "Fighting" sonichu", considering that's the species for Punchy, but trolls know him as Punchy Sonichu.Ttherefore, no name change is needed.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 03:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Alright then, I agree the name is fine as is. --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 16:05, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

: So as long as its not Chris asking, we can't put information up on any person if they say stop? So if Bob or Barbara is overheard in a video or phone chat saying they don't want to be on the internet, we need to take down all references to them? [[User:Double Nega|Double Nega]] 16:20, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
:* This is a separate case we will need to visit if it happen. The guideline regarding WallFlower was simple; she's a victim of Chris. The term "Megan 2.0" applies here. If she asked the material to be removed, I think it is ethical to do so. Bob and Barbara are enablers. This is a whole new ballgame to me. Of course, Chris being the fucktard that he is, will keep on dropping her Dox everywhere. We don't need to be "insensitive" as he is. Besides, WallFlower might be tempted to talk to us if we play nice... [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:44, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

== Her Side of the Story ==

Has anyone tried contacting her to get her side of the story? If she is an innocent victim of Chris, than we should allow her to post her version of events as to how they met, and whether Chris was actually her boyfriend (Which I highly doubt) or merely just an friend that he wanted to rape. I know she sent an email asking for her page to be taken down, so that must me that the admins have an email address for her. It would be very enlightening to learn what relationship she has with Tito, and if she became Chris's new Megan. If she's already stated that she doesn't want to comment, that's cool. she's been victimized enough [[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 11:37, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

*she's already contacted the cwcki herself. similar to megan, she doesn't want to tell her side but fair enough. just let her be. one day, the truth may come out but not now. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 15:39, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

True. I only bring this up because it seem's she has surfaced on youtube, talking about Chris. Whether the accounts is real or a fake is up for discussion [[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 11:37, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

== Remove the fanfiction.net image? ==

I was wondering- should the "How to troll trolls & Chris" image (the_link.jpg) of fanfiction.net be removed? Surfshack Tito has been shown to be the one who informed the Wallflower about Chris's true life & internet infamy. I didn't recollect seeing any info about the "ThyEnvysGreed" person on the article anymore (unless I missed it just now), so I kind of think it should be removed because it really doesn't have much to do with the Wallflower herself or Chris, not really anyway. I thought I'd ask here first, though. [[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 18:44, 24 March 2010 (UTC)meeko
:*I have uploaded the image for two reasons. First, we have the historical context. This is THE message that blew-up Chris's cover as a decent bloke and ended the 8 hours Wallflower Saga. Then, it also proves us our prominence as the source of everything CWC-related. Wallflower wasn't pointed to ED but to us. This says something by itself. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:21, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
:My only thing though, is how do we know that this is how Wallflower found out? Chris has said Tito did it (after saying Clyde did it, of course), but Tito hasn't revealed how he did it. My problem is that all we have to go on is the claims of 'ThyEnvysGreed'. Also, Chris hasn't specified how Wallflower found out, nor has the lady herself. We don't really have any proof of it, is all. [[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 13:15, 25 March 2010 (UTC)meeko
::*No, we don't have a point-by-point list about how Wallflower found out Chris's faggotery. This is something she might explain to us if she so chose. This being said, the screen shot proves us that someone hinted the lady towards the CWCki. For me, this is close enough. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 13:50, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*Speaking of, I have contacted Wallflower myself, but through the Private Messaging feature, like a normal person, as I too have a Fanfiction.net account. Should I have done something?--[[User:SniperFire16|SniperFire16]] 06:17, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
:::*Probably not. She's as much a victim of Chris's assitude as Megan was; there's no point in putting her through more trouble. -- [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 06:20, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
:::*I know, but still...[[User:SniperFire16|SniperFire16]] 06:26, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
::::*Guys, can we leave Wallflower alone, she wants to be able to forget about Chris, so even if you're trying to be friendly/useful, it would be wise just to leave her to it, and refer any burning issues to Cogs, who was contacted by her in the first place. Thanks --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 06:48, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

== Friend Zone ==

"He has no truck with the notion of "just friends." The Wallflower may have felt otherwise, which could explain Chris's angry remarks on the subject of the "friend zone" in the 15 January 2010 edition of the Mailbag."

I'm not sure about this section staying in. Chris has been angry at the Friend Zone as early as [[Mailbag 4]] which was way back in November.[[User:Wise dude321|Wise dude321]] 05:08, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

==Can we change the name?==
Since Chris has (once again) dropped The Wallflower's full name, can we change the name of the page? I know that we're only to upload information as it pertains to Chris but since he put it up on the Cwcipedia does that make it legit to put her name up here now? --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 02:29, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:She asked us not to.
:So no. We shouldn't. Ever.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:32, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:*Chris is retarded. We are not retarded. Lemme rephrase that; just because Chris does it, that doesn't make it okay for us to do it. We are better than him, rememeber? Plus, as the almighty Beat already said, she specifically asked us to take down the info and we are not ED. If she changes her mind, the info can go back up, but not before then no matter HOW many times Chris says: I DO NOT WANT ANYONE MENTIONING <her full name> ONLINE EVER! -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 03:18, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
::*Shit, I'm almighty now? When did this happen?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:00, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:::*Face it Beat, you are awesome. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 04:03, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:::*April 11th, 2:31am GMT. Just FYI. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 04:27, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

:*To reiterate, the reason the page was changed was because Wallflower's personal safety was threatened by this page - not that we were hurting her directly, just that people were posting doxs and stuff and were starting to harass her (in other words, this is why we can't have nice things). The fact she's a fanfic author, not that attractive by conventional Western standards of beauty, and her information is easily available online makes her a target for your average Internet troll.

::I'm not a big fan of censorship. I find it abhorrent. I am someone who believes information should be free and whatnot. However, Wallflower did make a request and it's always been the case where if someone felt that their privacy was threatened, we would accommodate to their request (i.e. "plz don't sue"). Unlike Wikipedia, what we're doing isn't exactly kosher to begin with (i.e. an entire wiki to document the misadventures of an autistic shell of a man for purposes of internet trolling as opposed to a free and open source of information)

::My solution would be as such - instances where Chris mentions her real name are mentioned, but not linked to her. We keep this article and perhaps mention these instances where the name is mentioned.

::CWCki should serve as a portal for uncensored and unadulterated access to Chris and his mind. Otherwise, a wiki cannot truly function. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:08, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

:::*Brilliant. Champ says it better than I ever could. Mind if I quote this post any time people keep bringing up this issue? -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 09:54, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

So quick question, what if Chris (in all his fucktardary) was stupid enough to tell info about her on the internet (like where she lives, her phone number, and other personal info and pictures) would that mean that we would have to record it? He did it with Megan and other people in his life, how do you know he's going to do it with the wallflower? --[[User:Yoshi2021|Yoshi2021]] 11:23, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:If Chris did shit like that, it's my personal hope that his sysop would delete the page and tell him to quit his shit. Yeah, I know we're doing the whole "No shit is too minor!" thing, but most of these girls are actual people. They don't deserve newfags sending them pizzas for the rest of their lives just because they weren't openly cruel to a retard back in high school.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 13:08, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:*I agree with the most honourable Beat on this one. I believe for now the official policy is that we document any time Chris drops her name, but not link it to the Wallflower article, as long as it's not something that a) implies she was going out with him or b) makes her super-easy to dox.
:Specifically:

::If he mentions her full name ''yet again'' in the transcript of a video, then we can transcribe it verbatim.
::If he creates a video with her ''pen-name'' name as the title, we can transcribe it verbatim.
::If he makes a list of his gal-pals with her real, full name as confusingly both a "friend" and an ex-girlfriend, then we have to replace it with The Wallflower.
::* So basically yeah. Don't make it seem like she was going out with him, don't make her super easy to dox, and you can mention her name where-ever Chris does. Otherwise, it's the Wallflower. [[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:02, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

I haven't bothered reading everything on this talk page, but I think we should just bite the bullet and call her "Heather". Maybe throw in a "(Last name omitted)" for when Chris used her full name. Going out of our way to replace every mere mention of this girl's name with some nickname is, in my opinion, annoying and unprofessional. Besides, "Heather" is in plenty of transcripts, why can't it be the name of this page?[[User:Kynes|Kynes]] 21:55, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
:* *sigh* Because the CWCki promised the Wallflower that we would. And the CWCki holds to its promises. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 00:33, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
:*Also, breaking the promise unless we are explicitly told to do so by Wallflower herself means that we're as bad as Chris. So no.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 00:39, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
::*I think mentioning only her first name doesn't violate the agreement. I think her main problem was the pictures and links to her facebook. You know what? It doesn't even have to be Heather, I'd settle for "Damien" at this point. Anything's better than "Wallflower". I can't wait for Cogs's final verdict on this. [[User:Kynes|Kynes]] 02:50, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

==Stating CWCki Policy==

[''The following, title included, is a section I drafted tonight with the aim of putting on the main page. Normally I would just stick it right there, but speaking for the CWCki admins is not something I can reasonably do, humble pleb that I am. I feel that the following passage adequately sums up what the CWCki should and will do, without giving the impression that the CWCki will simply remove whatever anyone feels is not perfectly aligned with their own interests.

Anyone can edit the following as they wish but if a Jerkop says it should/shouldn't say something, please don't change it. The intention is to transmit CWCki policy to [[User:Ronichu|newfags]], [[User:Ronichu|retards]] and casual readers alike.''] -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:31, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

====CWCki Policy====
In March 2010, Chris announced he had a lady friend, a "wallflower" at a meeting for young adults, hereby referred to as "The Wallflower." In a video he released, he dropped her name which allowed more malicious minded trolls to find dox on her and used the CWCki page to post her doxs, her unique fanfiction, etc with intents of trolling her. Given the harassment she received and the potential damage, it was reasonable she felt her personal safety was at risk. As such, she requested that the CWCki rename her page and remove instances of her personal details.

The CWCki administrators intend to uphold their promise to the Wallflower, a promise made in good faith. Chris, however, continues to drop both her real name and pen name in numerous videos, blog postings and pages on his CWCipedia. This makes concealing the Wallflower's identity harder and harder by the day and to *completely* protect the Wallflower would require censorship utterly unprecedented on these fair pages. It would severely compromise the CWCki's stated goal of recording and documenting Chris' life.

As such, the CWCki's policy (if it can be called that) is loosely defined as "''to adhere to the spirit of the agreement with the Wallflower''". That is to say, the CWCki will not make her real name and identity particularly easy to identify, nor will they disseminate Chris' demented idea that the two of them were dating (they most certainly were not, despite what Chris says).

Essentially, any media in which Chris mentions her name in passing will be transcribed faithfully BUT not linked to this article. However, any media that Chris releases that strongly implies (or outright states) that the two of them were dating OR any media which puts her real identity in significant danger will be faithfully transcribed; in this instance, any reference to her will be replaced with "The Wallflower", with a note that these changes were performed and what was removed. It is the belief of the CWCki admins that this fulfils their obligation to the Wallflower.

With that in mind... the bottom line is that the CWCki cannot protect the Wallflower from Chris. We cannot control who views the YouTube videos where he places her pen name as the title and repeatedly begs her, by full and complete name, to have sex with him because $100 is too much to pay for a hooker. By and large, the damage has already been done and nothing the CWCki could have done would have prevented it, nor can we put the genie back in the bottle now that it's out in the world. However, we will adhere to the spirit of the agreement with the Wallflower until such time as Chris makes the situation untenable, or the Wallflower wishes to renegotiate her agreement.

====Reply====
Absolutely beautiful, better than what I was going to do. However, in this case, it's ultimately up to [[User:Cogsdev|Cogs]] as she has the final word in this situation and I'm not one to fuck with Cogs. However, I do believe you provide a rationale for mentioning her real name in instances where Chris utters it and no where else.

The only thing it fails is that ultimately, we should not link her real name to the Wallflower and I believe that banning would be a suitable punishment for those who do. I added a bit of history, because people might need some background, but not sure if the right language to communicate this other bit I'm mentioning.

Well done, but as I said, this is ultimately Cogs's decision as the deal was between her and the Wallflower and trust me, you do not want to fuck with Cogs. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:22, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good. Plus the bit you added Champ, proper Christorians know anyway, and casual troublemakers needn't know It makes sense just to leave the Wallflowers TRUE and HONEST name in black. You mean you don't really run this place? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 17:03, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

:* Okay. Just basically gotta get Cogs to sign off on it. I'll leave this to sit for a day or two, then I'll poke her on her userpage. If I can't get a reply in a week or so, I'll post it since generally people seem to approve. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 22:43, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

== Fuck. Ing. Shit. ==

So he went and did it. He made a goddamn page on her.

The thing reads like 14 year old girl's breakup livejournal. Starts off about how wonderful she is, then angrily blames her for having a facebook page. Then gets all pissed off that she wants nothing to do with him. He makes some reference about "Swapping DNA in a movie" (likely a moronic reference to kissing), and at one point goes "n*****" which hilariously combines racisim and Chris's pathetic censorship. He ends it with a copypasta version of our page, with the bit about anonymity missing, probably in a rare moment of cognizance that we're being more respectful to the poor girl than he is.

It's Lulzy shit but the fact that this is basically him passive-aggressively begging trolls to harass her for daring to not have sex with him pisses me off to no end. I'd really honestly prefer it if Sysop (in her great wisdom) burned the page to the ground before too many people see it. Just tell him that this sort of unmitigated bullshit won't fly and maybe get some tardrage but I kinda doubt that's gonna happen.

Anyway there's plenty of stuff on the page we can incorporate into our article, namely Chris's completely batshit thoughts on her without breaking our word to her, but this whole thing is leaving a very bad taste in my mouth.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:30, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
*THIS. I don't know what to make of the whole mess. Someone need to open a channel to the girl and tell her about this crap. The whole "DNA swapping thing" is creepy even to me and I am quite hard to shock. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 02:34, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
*DNA swapping -- did he ask for a drink of her soda and then slobber on the straw? Maybe he sneezed in the popcorn. [[User:Squirrelbait|Squirrelbait]] 03:10, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Does Cogs deal extend to the CWCipedia? or is for all domains under her control? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 02:32, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
* I don't know, but, I hope it does. I think, in the meantime, we should glean what we can from this page and put it on here since it does have to do with Chris. I'm not saying copypasta the entire page (save it just in case, though), but do what Beat said - put in Chris's batshit insane thoughts on this.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 02:35, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

*Added link to The Wallflower's page that Chris made under "External Links". --[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 02:39, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Holy shit, Chris still has a braincell left - he blanked Wallflower's page and changed her name over to her pen name! HA! I hope this was because she got to him and got angry!--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 03:01, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
* Never mind, Chris just made a new page using her pen name. W. T. F.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 03:10, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
** Fixed the link, now it leads to the newer site.--[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 03:18, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

:* I saved a copy of the original on my sandbox. I will edit it to conform to CWCki's policy on this matter. Most disgusting for me was how Chris said he would 'Accept an apology FROM HER for breaking up with him. And he takes no responsibility for the CONTENT of the CWCki, instead blaming her (????) for even ''reading'' it. God fucking dammit, Chris. God damn. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 03:21, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
::*Fuck it. I will just use Chris' revised edition since it does the work for me. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 03:28, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

== Lovely Weather ==

There is speculation in this article that Lovely Weather may be based on She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named. The fact that her IRL name rhymes with "weather" makes this seem quite plausible. It seems a shame not to be able to use at least her first name in the article. [[User:Squirrelbait|Squirrelbait]] 02:45, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Holy shit I'd never noticed that. Although I think it might have been touched upon- given that Chris use of entirely fictional OCs is virtually unheard of. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 02:47, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

:I see that Chris is denying the connection in his new Wallflower page on the cwcipedia. It would be interesting to know exactly when he met her, to see if the timing matches up. Just noticed that he used the word "lovely" to describe her when he wrote about meeting her at that adult social group thing ("met a lovely woman there who likes me too"). [[User:Squirrelbait|Squirrelbait]] 03:02, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
:*Chris claims that he met her in late January and Lovely appeared in late December. Of course, that may not be the full truth--he went through a period in November where he was trying to find IRL Dating Education and it's not unlikely that he joined the group in late December after he complained to Rocky about the JERK who kicked him out of a relationship management class. and took a whole month to get the courage to actually talk to Wallflower, at the time creating a fictional version for his fictional self to fuck.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 03:40, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

::What kind of stupid name is Lovely Weather is anyway? I'm stumped--[[User:UJ1A1985|UJ1A1985]] 03:14, 20 April 2010 (UTC).
:::It's a retard joke out of a winter holiday carol. It is explained in the [[Lovely Weather]] entry. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 04:20, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

*God dammit you guys, I know you wouldn't know this but Chris didn't meet Wallflower until January of this year, Lovely Weather came about in December because it was Christmas and he'd listen to "Sleigh Ride." Sons, I am disappoint though. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:07, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

:*I'm sorry daddy. :'( -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 08:07, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
:*I like my version better. At the very least I think speculating that he may have based Lovely on Wallflower will piss him off even if it's not true.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 15:01, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

== OWLS ==

So, anyone knows (and may disclose) what this Adult Social Group really was? --[[User:Sonijew is back|Sonijew is back]] 17:53, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

* My guess is that it is the youth group at his church. Those have to be the only people pathetic enough to be around Chris -- [[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 14:01, 21 April 2010 (EST)
* I am obsessing about this for the last few months. Knowing Chris, the said group should openly accept a manchild and being non-judgemental enough to tolerate his bullshit. chFor a while I was thinking that the said group was a "Personal Growth/Occupational Therapy" thing but many recent videos hint towards a religious themed one. Nevertheless, this is a blind spot in Chris's world. We need to know more about this. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 18:26, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
** Are we able to get a field agent to infiltrate it and find out what it is? --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 18:34, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
***If it was possible, it would had been done already. This or the PVCC's "Wise Ones" find the info too sensitive to reveal. These are the days I wish I lived at driving distance from Chris. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 18:50, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
***Perhaps someone could email Rockey claiming to have just moved into Ruckersville and looking for a new church. Ask if her church has any groups for young adults. This could get us the answer. -- [[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 15:15, 21 April 2010 (EST)
::*95% Chance it's just a Church Social/Fellowship group. They're a great way to meet new people and make friends within your congregation, but I'm willing to bet the only reason Chris joined is the promise of China. Chris probably joined on the advice of Rocky, who wanted him to stop going to couples therapy (alone). I figure it has to be his church, because I'm not aware of any groups for young adults outside of college campus clubs that aren't united by a common interest (Triathalon clubs or gaming groups). Plus, he's apparently harassing the wallflower while he's there, so any club that isn't honor bound to be nice to him Would have given him the boot already.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 18:56, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

== Chris's owl story ==

Should we file the story in this section or on a new page, linking to Chris and Writing? --[[User:Yoshi2021|Yoshi2021]] 11:28, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Sonichu 0

2010-05-04T11:14:39Z

Yoshi2021:

[[Image:issuezero.jpg|thumb|''Sonichu 0'' Cover]]
'''''Sonichu 0''''' is the first issue of [[Christian]] Weston Chandler's [[Sonichu (comic)|masterpiece]].

At this point, the comic was ''almost'' entirely about [[Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]], although bits of Chris's life still managed to find their way in.

==Episode 1: "Sonichu's Origin"==
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{{Resources
| title =Sonichu's Origins
| cwcipedia =http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Issue_0/Page_1 ''Episode 1''
| videobook =Sonichu_0_Official_Videobook#Episode_1{{!}}''Episode 1''
| sonichusite =http://cogsdev.110mb.com/sonichu/SchuComicP1.htm ''Episode 1''
| audiobook =http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVmyW9stnYs&feature=PlayList&p=4EAA2A54AFDDFBE1&index=0 ''Episode 1''}}
===Disclaimer Page===
''Sonichu 0'' features the first instance of the Disclaimer Page, in which Chris draws a squiggly line of insanity around the definitions of [[copyright]] and [[parody]]. This page will bear repeating in every subsequent episode, and is read before every [[Videobook]].

===Synopsis===
A wild boy [[Pikachu]] wanders through a field until he notices catastrophic destruction five miles away in [[Station Square]], where the [[Perfect Chaos Monster]] is running rampant. He runs to the city, where he finds [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] battling the monster, using the [[Chaos Emeralds]] to transform into Super Sonic. Perfect Chaos counterattacks, hurling Sonic directly into the Pikachu, with the resulting collision causing the Chaos Emeralds' energy to mingle with that of Pikachu's, releasing a powerful [[rainbow]] into the sky.

Fifteen miles away, the rainbow touches down in front of the house of Pokemon trainer [[Kel]], whose female [[Raichu]] is caught in the blast. At both endpoints of the rainbow, the Pokemon are transformed into hedgehog-like creatures. Kel discovers that her Raichu is now pink, standing upright, wearing a red dress, and capable of human speech. She remarks that this new species of Pokemon is "as pretty as a rose", and thus coins the name [[Rosechu]].

The former Pikachu awakens from the collision with Sonic and, failing to notice his transformation, joins Sonic in the battle against Perfect Chaos. His thunder attack defeats the monster, and the gathering crowd mistakes him for Sonic (who has now departed) as they cheer him on. Later, after considering his new role in the universe, he names the species he has evolved into "Sonichu", in honor of his brief ally.

==Introductions==
{{Resources
| title =Introductions / Genesis of the Lovehogs
| cwcipedia =http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Issue_0/Page_8 ''Episode 2''
| videobook =Sonichu_0_Official_Videobook#Episode_2{{!}}''Episode 2''
| sonichusite =http://cogsdev.110mb.com/sonichu/SchuComicP4.htm ''Episode 2''
| audiobook =http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os-nNkWnNpo&feature=PlayList&p=4EAA2A54AFDDFBE1&index=1 ''Episode 2''}}
Cartoon CWC takes some time out of the thrilling saga of Sonichu to provide exposition about key elements of the upcoming stories, with profiles on [[CWCville]], Sonichu, Rosechu, Kel, [[Naitsirhc]], [[Black Sonichu]], the [[Chaotic Combo]], and [[Flame the Sunbird]]. Chris hints at the significance of [[Chris-Chan Sonichu]], [[Saramah Rosechu]], and [[Wes-Li Sonichu]], and briefly mentions the villains of the series: [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and the [[Jerkops]]. The greatest attention is given to Christian himself and the fact that [[Love Quest|he needs a girlfriend]].
==Episode 2: "Genesis of the Lovehogs"==
[[Image:202-SchuRchuKissPSPWall.jpg|thumb|"Mine, and '''THE FIRST''' romantic attempt, and I did an [[Lie|''AWESOME FUCKIN' JOB'']]"....]]
[[Sonichu]] is wandering through the forest. A week has passed since he was forcefully evolved by the power of the Chaos Emeralds, and he has found that in his larger form he cannot receive adequate subsistence from the diet of a [[Pikachu]]. He is also overcome with a newly found sense of loneliness, being the only [[Electric-Hedgehog Pokemon]] in existence--at least, insofar as he is aware.

Just then Sonichu notices [[Rosechu]] standing by a stream. He is instantly attracted to this similar species of hedgehog, and quietly stalks her as she returns to her home. Lurking in the bushes, Sonichu sees that Rosechu lives with her trainer, [[Kel]], and decides that he can beg this person for food.

Inside, Rosechu complains of her own loneliness. Kel generously offers her [[Dragonite]] for [[Hanky-Panky|companionship]], but Rosey dismisses the idea, since a Dragonite's cock is too big for even her own gaping slot. Just then Rosechu answers a knock at the door to find Sonichu panhandling for change. Immediately smitten, she aggressively pulls him into the cabin and has Kel cook them dinner.

Within a few days, Sonichu and Rosechu are inseparable. One night, while staring at the moon out by the lake, they interlock tails and share their first kiss, in the first of many <s>sickening</s> heartwarming love scenes.

Given [[Christian]]'s own [[Love Quest|inability to get laid]], "Genesis of the Lovehogs" provides fascinating insight into how he believes romance is supposed to work: Boy sees girl, boy stalks girl for five minutes, girl wants to have sex with boy the second she lays eyes on him.

===Advertisement 1===
The first of many [[parody]] ads appears between Episodes 2 and 3; this particular ad is for two ill-fated Sonichu games for Game Boy Advance: ''[[Sonichu Advance]]'' and ''[[Pokémon: Lightning Version]]''.
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==Episode 3: "Sonichu vs. Naitsirhc"==
{{Resources
| title =Sonichu vs. Naitsirhc
| cwcipedia =http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Issue_0/Page_19 ''Episode 3''
| videobook =Sonichu_0_Official_Videobook#Episode_3{{!}}''Episode 3''
| sonichusite =http://cogsdev.110mb.com/sonichu/SchuComicP10.htm ''Episode 3''
| audiobook =http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj3872mqS10&feature=PlayList&p=4EAA2A54AFDDFBE1&index=2 ''Sonichu 3''}}
[[Image:201-SchuAqua.jpg|thumb|THE BUN IS IN YOUR MIND]]

===Synopsis===
We find Sonichu in [[CWCville Mall]], confronting [[Naitsirhc Giovanni]] riding a [[Zapdos]] that is clutching [[Rosechu]] in its talons. When hostage negotiations [[fail]], the battle is on, and Sonichu briefly recalls how the situation arose.

Earlier in the day, [[Kel]] took her Pokemon into town to run errands, and allowed Rosechu to go shopping with Kel's credit card. Sonichu was entrusted to restrain Rosey's uncontrollably lavish spending, typical of a female, but he quickly abandoned this duty to please his lover. Later in the food court, the couple visited a fast food restaurant; since Rosechu has lady-parts she could only eat salad, while Sonichu attempted to eat a [[Aqua Teen Hunger Force|Baffler Meal]] and became sick from eating [[pickle]]s. It was at this point that Zapdos ambushed the hedgehogs, capturing Rosey.

Using standard Pokemon fighting techniques, Sonichu shows up Zapdos with his Sky Uppercut and Mega Kick. For the ''coup de grâce'', Sonichu uses Double Team to confuse Zapdos with mirages of himself; he then uses this diversion to rescue Rosey before his duplicates zap the Zapdos, defeating it. Naitsirhc recalls the Zapdos to its Pokeball, and swears he will challenge Sonichu again before riding off on a [[Raikou]].

Since this is Sonichu's first public outing in which he is not mistaken for [[Sonic]], he is heralded as a hero by the people of CWCville. [[Christian Weston Chandler]] makes his debut as a full-fledged character, and in his capacity as the city's mayor congratulates the yellow hedgehog.

Later, in the first of many segments that break the fourth wall, Christian and Sonichu leave the mall talking about the high quality of this issue of Sonichu, and Sonichu expresses amazement and incredulity when he learns that Christian's obvious talent has not earned him a [[boyfriend-free girl]]. Christian drives off to the [[Fashion Square Mall]] to continue his [[Love Quest]], while Sonichu morbidly admires his father's persistence in the face of certain [[fail|failure]].

===Analysis===
[[Image:SchuComicPage25_detail.jpg|thumb|Gotta Catch 'Em All!]]
Episode 3 is a good example of early CWCville. Sonichu is just a Mary Sue for Christian to play in a Sonic-inclusive-Pokeworld. Naitsirhc's motivation is that he's ''GOTTA CATCH 'EM ALL'' for his gangster father, Giovanni. Contrast this with his later incarnation, [[Reldnahc]], or Chris's enemies in the [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens]].
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==Classic Sonichu Strips==
{{Resources
| title =Classic Sonichu Strips
| cwcipedia =http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Issue_0/Page_28 ''Classic Strips''
| videobook =Sonichu_0_Official_Videobook#Classic_Comic_Strips{{!}}''Classic Strips''
| sonichusite =http://cogsdev.110mb.com/sonichu/SchuComicP14.htm ''Classic Strips''
| audiobook =http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_XS09cbMpM&feature=PlayList&p=4EAA2A54AFDDFBE1&index=3 ''Episode 3''}}
Pages 28-34 of this issue feature comic strips drawn throughout [[2004]].

# 25 years into the future, [[Sonichu]] (now evolved into [[Metonic]]), makes a poor joke while chopping logs.
# Sonichu asks Rosechu how things are going, and she explains she's been busy "being beautiful" but confesses that she hates working so hard at it (which is what all women do). Sonichu demonstrates his amazing ability to listen to women and respect their feelings (hint, hint, YOUNG LADIES) until Rosey calls out [[Black Sonichu]] for stalking them.
# "Christian & Sonichu vs. the Mastermind": [[Christian]] and Sonichu defeat [[Mary Lee Walsh]] with the combined power of Chris's [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]] and Sonichu's thunder attack.
# Sonichu and [[Chris-chan Sonichu]] rescue [[Barbara Chandler]] from [[Naitsirhc]]. Barbara is depicted characterizing Sonichu as Christian's son.
# [[Chris-chan Sonichu]] is beaten up by [[Jerkops]], under orders from Mary Lee Walsh. Rosechu can only stand by helplessly, as she lacks a [[pickle|penis]]. Nevertheless, [[Sarhamah Rosechu]] arrives to save Chris, so that he can reassure himself that he is still important in the life of a woman he cannot have sex with. This Sub-[[Sub-Episode]] is later reincorporated into [[Sub-Episode 7]], in ''[[Sonichu 4]]''.
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==Sub-Episode 1: Christian Chandler in "Jerkop-tastropie"==
{{Resources
| title =Christian Chandler in "Jerkop-tastropie"
| cwcipedia =http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Issue_0/Page_35 ''Sub-Episode 1''
| videobook =Sonichu_0_Official_Videobook#Sub_Episode_1{{!}}''Sub-Episode 1''
| sonichusite =http://cogsdev.110mb.com/sonichu/SchuComicP18.htm ''Sub-Episode 1''
| audiobook =http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxkUuXyv3A&feature=PlayList&p=4EAA2A54AFDDFBE1&index=12 ''Sub-Episode 1''}}
[[Image:Jerkhief_my_soul_hurts.jpg|thumb|MY SOUL HURTS!]]
One year and seven months into [[Christian]]'s [[Love Quest]], he ponders his lack of progress while listening to music on his Nintendo DS. Just then, the enormously fat [[niggos|black]] [[Jerkhief]] towers over Chris, accusing Chris of soliciting sex. Chris is outraged by this insult, and valiantly defends his honor. The Jerkhief summons his [[Jerkops]] to handcuff Chris, but his keen tactical mind allows him to spot his assailant and dodge them, causing a Jerkop to handcuff himself. Chris backhands another Jerkop square in the face, giving him enough breathing room to transform into [[Chris-Chan Sonichu]] and [[Homos|tells everybody to dance now...]]

The Jerkhief responds by summoning his Metal Armor, and a pitched battle begins. Chris-Chan uses Mega Kick, Double Team, Mirror Coat, and Thunderbolt to disarm the Jerkhief, and honorably offers mercy to his defeated foe. But the Jerkhief is without honor; defiant to the end, he fires a handgun at Chris-Chan, who uses Barrier to deflect the pitiful attack.

His enemy beaten, Chris decides to unleash his Special Ultimate Attack, the dreaded [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha]]. The Jerkhief initially feels no adverse effect and rises to fight back, but the curse soon sets in; he slips on a banana peel, breaks his glasses, and learns that his wife has just divorced him over his smoking habit. The Jerkhief's life is shattered, and Chris makes sure the broken man understands that his has reaped what he sowed. The Jerkhief cries that his soul hurts; Chris callously responds that he's suffered worse...

Sub-Episode 1, along with the other Sub-Episodes, is reprinted in [[Sonichu 4]].

===Advertisement 2===
''[[Sonichu Adventure]]'', <s>coming soon</s> never exclusively for Nintendo Game Cube! Note that Chris draw most of the Gamecube dress by hand, but likely forgot the "Only for" label and thus had to photoshop it in.

This ad appeared between between the Classic Sonichu Strips and Sub-Episode 1 in the initial release of ''Sonichu 0'', but moved to the back cover on the more recent CWCipedia version. This can actually make it difficult to find, since the CWCipedia links are [[autism|frequently broken]]. Ads for ''Sonichu Adventure'' will continue to run in future issues, all the way through ''[[Sonichu 6]]''.
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==Gallery==
<center><gallery>
Image:issuezero.jpg|Cover
Image:JargonPage.jpg|Disclaimer Page
Image:Sonichu on Game Boy Advance.jpg|Ad 1: ''Sonichu Advance'' and ''Pokémon: Lightning Version''
Image:Sonichu Adventure for Gamecube.jpg|Ad 2 (Back Cover): ''Sonichu Adventure''
Image:SchuComic1.jpg|''Classic Sonichu Strip'', 18 Mar 2004
Image:130-CChanComicStrip.jpg|''Classic Sonichu Strip'', 5 Dec 2004
</gallery></center>

==See Also==
{{CWCipedia|chris=Sonichu Comic Collection|linkname=the Sonichu Comic Collection}}
*[[Sonichu (comic)]]
*[[Sonichu (character)]]
*[[Fan:Sonichu Remake]]
*{{c|Sonichu 0 Cover Parodies}}

{{Sonichu}}
[[Category: Sonichu comic book issues]]

PS3/How the PS3 is Hacked

2010-05-04T11:07:13Z

Yoshi2021:

[[Image:ps3.png]]

Look at it. A waste of money; however, every time we hack it, it amuses us. But that fat sack of shit has Sony giving him a blowjob every time he gets hacked.

A giant-ass waste of money. Every time I bother to look into it, it sickens me. He's spent over $4k on it.

PretendoZii@yahoo.com, I wonder what this is. I'll hack it on July 4th. Being patriotic and shit. See you guys there!

== bet ==

This mod is really simple to put in. All it took was a security torx wrench to break in. Even if it manages to get disconnected, it can broadcast the remaining information on it. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]]

== explanation ==

So basically, someone placed a bet with me for 100 bucks that Chris wouldn't do shit even if this information was public. Guess who's getting 100 bucks. He hasn't done shit. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:53, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:How the fuck did you get physical access to his PS3 in the first place? [[User:Joe Da Moo|Joe Da Moo]] 00:16, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
::It happened a long time ago. A hispanic friend of mine. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:13, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

== how it was hacked in the first place ==

Simple... People know Clyde Cash... and they know of his awesomeness...

Talk:PS3/How the PS3 is Hacked

2010-05-04T11:04:40Z

Yoshi2021:

You bitches, I wish I could make the god damn thing explode. This is the second best thing. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 03:15, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

* If Chris finds out about this, your secret plans are ruined! --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 05:52, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Damn.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:54, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh Clyde, you cad! -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 04:56, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Clyde. I want your babies --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 05:23, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

How was his PS3 bugged? Who bugged it and when? --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 05:27, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
*It was bugged with a super duper secret thingamajig that sends stuff to us. How do you think we got all those leaked videos and whatnot? It's because of the PS3 bug, obviously, DURR. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:41, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

:* Fuck, I love that super secrit agent who was in there in those videos. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 05:52, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

:* Yeah, I know the PS3 was bugged. I was just wondering how it got in there. I guess it was probably the FA from those videos earlier, but I'm not sure when he found the time to open Chris's PS3, install the bug, and close it up without getting caught. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 06:14, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Impressive. Most impressive. Clyde, you are indeed a genius. --[[User:EdtheHedgehog1894|EdtheHedgehog1894]] 10:45, 21 April 2010 (EST)

My mind is blown by this. While wannabes are making plans involving Trannies and shovels, REAL trolls bug his PS3! Chris is way too naive to figure this one out. Clyde, you are my new hero. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:08, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Jesus Christ, Clyde, do you realize how dangerous this is? If Chris finds the bug and takes it to the cops, they might be able to trace it. This one operation might destroy the trolls once and for all. [[User:Kazmeyer|Kazmeyer]] 17:29, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
:This happens all the time - no one can be bothered to investigate anymore. If Chris called the police they would just tell him he was wasting their time. There's no trick to debugging this thing - even a total moron could do it. --[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 03:09, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::Although, from what I've heard, the technology can adapt pretty quickly, so once one bug is disabled it's almost impossible to hack the system again. Anyone know the details? --[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 03:12, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

I have a question--how do I check to see if someone bugged my PS3? If so, I'd like instructions on how to remove the device.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 18:10, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
* This is a very simple procedure, actually. Simply clip the cables connecting it with a pair of wire cutters (or scissors or a knife if not available) and destroy it immediatly with a hammer. [[User:Wtv|Wtv]] 18:19, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
** Failing that, you can always contact Sony technical support. Note that Sony is a known proponent of all sorts of bugging devices (remember the rootkit fiasco!) so you may need to explain them ''thoroughly'' your disapproval of the situation and all of these circumstances that probably contributed to the bugging. Remember to also spread the word! It is not just that PS3s are ridiculously easy to bug; we should raise awareness of the fact and force Sony to make them harder to bug. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 18:24, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
**Also remember to ensure they know your PSN account name so they can track who is bugging your PS3 & remove any information stored on your PSN account by the bug. I had one on my PS3 once and even after I removed and destroyed it they found a virus on my PSN that relayed information through the internet every time I logged on to the network. --[[User:Thorgnzorrg|Thorgnzorrg]] 04:45, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh, Hells yeah! You done stepped up the game, that's what you did... [[User:Baxter|Baxter]] 19:41, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Ha! Luckily, the Hexbox is far far FAR harder to hack, because [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a1CzNGNdrs it's being watched from inside]. (The video also reveals why this bugging business in PS3 is really hard to pull off. Or maybe not that hard. Hats off.) --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 20:21, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh my God...Mr. Cash, does this mean we will never see another file from that PS3? --[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 03:59, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

How did you get access to his PS3 in the first place?
[[User:Dkd|Dkd]] 11:19, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

How long has that bug been in place? --[[User:Aldrasio|Aldrasio]] 14:13, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

You know what I think we need next? A tracking bug on his medallion and a hidden camera in his room. [[User:SparklingOrange|SparklingOrange]] 03:46, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
:I fully agree with this proposition. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 05:55, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

So, quick question... what if chris tries to take it out manually? Will that mean he will break his system and finally destroying his PS3? --[[User:Yoshi2021|Yoshi2021]] 11:04, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Sonichu 10

2010-04-19T11:29:23Z

Yoshi2021:

[[Image:Issue 10 Cover.jpg|thumb|Finalized issue cover, from [[July 2009]].]]

'''''Sonichu 10''''' is the eleventh issue of the [[Sonichu (comic)|''Sonichu'' comic]]. Chris submitted the first page to the [[CWCipedia]] on 8 [[December 2009]], shortly after finishing [[Sonichu 9|issue 9]]. The final pages were uploaded on 24 [[February 2010]], also [[Christian Love Day|Chris's birthday]].

==Background==
[[Image:Sonichu 10 release graph.png|thumb|right|Sonichu 10 release activity.]]
Throughout the early fall of 2008, the idea of obtaining and destroying Chris's [[Medallion of Fail]] had captured the imaginations of [[trolls]] across the world. Ultimately, a group of trolls posing as Chris's sweetheart [[Blanca]], convinced Chris to send her the Medallion.

For a time, it was unclear what had happened. Chris would attempt to set the record straight in his [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 9th, 2008|09 October 2008 video]], where he confirmed that he had sent the Medallion to Blanca, and that trolls briefly intercepted it. However, Chris would go on to insist that Blanca herself was not a troll, and that she somehow retrieved the Medallion and returned it to Chris unharmed. In fact, Chris had simply constructed a new Medallion, claiming to have upgraded the original to explain its differences from the first. He also began to show off his [[High School Ring]] implying its greater importance.

To further spin the theft of the Medallion, Chris drew a special Sonichu comic meant to be an excerpt from issue #10. This was uploaded circa 14 October 2008. In it, Chris fictionalizes the trolls attempts to steal his Medallion, and emphasizes the Medallion's safety and Blanca's loyalty to him. Additionally, Chris retcons the [[Anchuent Prophecy]], establishing that the Medallion's powers actually come from the Amnyfest High School Ring.

===Continuity===
At the time, Chris had not yet completed the second half of [[Sonichu 8|Sonichu #8]], and indeed would not complete that issue until 1 January 2009. Most likely, Chris's rationale for skipping ahead was that he wanted to acknowledge the Medallion incident in his comics, but needed to have himself appear in the story to do this. As Chris's character has been marooned in the "[[time void]]" since the end of [[Sonichu 7|Sonichu #7]], and not scheduled to return until ''after'' #8, Chris's only solution was to flash forward in the storyline, to a point where he had returned to Earth and was able to confront the trolls personally.

Ironically, far more has transpired in Chris's life than he could have possibly imagined. Even as Chris struggled to begin [[Sonichu 9|Sonichu #9]], Blanca had long since been revealed as a troll, and Chris has subsequently been romanced and heart-shattered by several other trolls. By the time Sonichu #10 had officially begun, the theft of the Medallion and Blanca's role in the incident were ancient history. In fact, the comic version of Blanca had been abruptly written out of the story two issues ago, and Chris's comic counterpart was already seeing his future wife, ensuring that the "trusted sweetheart Blanca" line makes absolutely no sense without any knowledge of the events leading up to the preview pages.

Furthermore, Chris promised at the end of Sonichu #9 that he would remove himself from the comics and that he'd focus solely on [[Sonichu]] and [[Rosechu]]. By the end of Episode 21, however, he remains in the comic.

===Death of Simonla===
During the production of Sonichu 10, Chris was also deeply embroiled in a feud with the forces behind the [[Asperpedia]]. More specifically, [[Evan]] was putting pressure on Chris to kill or otherwise remove from the comics [[Simonla Rosechu]], whose creation had been based on Evan's original Electric Hedgehog Pokémon, Simonchu. Chris refused and actually retconned Simonla's entry on the [[CWCipedia]] to state that Simonla was his own original creation, and he had not based her on Simonchu. Shortly after these changes were made, [[9 February 2010|the CWCipedia went offline]], replaced by a notice from Evan's lawyers.

In order to recover the CWCipedia, Chris posted a two-page spread in which Chris apologizes for his trespasses against the Asperpedia team, and Simonla is killed by an exploding toilet. When he arrived at Simonla's death in the actual comic, however, he spread the events of Simonla's death over many pages, and introduced a new character: [[Sandy Rosechu]], her daughter with [[Wild Sonichu|Wild]]. Furthermore, the Asperpedia team are depicted as Simonla's murderers, and after a kangaroo court, are bloodily executed, with Sandy and Wild teaming up to maim and then murder Evan. Team Asperpedia was understandably upset with this development, and have since coerced Chris into the third of his seemingly endless rewrites of the end of Sonichu 10.

===Cover art===
[[Image:SonichuCover10.jpg|thumb|**The Cover Art for Comic #10 was Wisely Picked by myself, C.W.C., and Generously Contrubed by Sonichu Fan, PandaHalo.**]]

Despite his continued support of Blanca, Chris was also embroiled in an online relationship with [[PandaHalo]], and he used her fan-art of Chris-Chan Sonichu as the cover of #10.

==Episode 21: Christian Chandler in Director Amenities==

===Curing Da [[Homos]]===

The comic begins by recapping [[Wild]] and [[Magi-Chan]]'s effort to rescue Chris from the [[Time Void]]. However, there is a bit more dialogue than the the [[Sonichu 9]] version, including Chris stating that he now has a new future wife named [[Lovely Weather]]. Chris then goes on to reveal that he [[Kacey Call|tricked his future wife into thinking he was his future self]], and then [[rape|fucked his future wife]] while his future self was at work.

He proceeds to textwall again, revealing that, in the future, scientists have almost discovered the cure for [[homos]]exuality, but require pure, heterosexual blood to complete the formula. Chris volunteers for this procedure, apparently because there are no 100% heterosexuals 6 years in the future. Keep in mind that Chris himself still exists at this time, yet it seems they can't use Future Chris's blood for [[Homos#Evidence that Chris is a homo|some reason]]. After receiving the cure and finding out it worked, he grabbed two of the syringes, planning to use one to turn [[Reldnahc]] back into Naitsirhc, whose one completely random true love, [[Kel]], is worried sick about. [[Homos|The fate of the other syringe is never seen.]]

He then entrusts Magi-Chan with one of the <s>Sonichu Balls</s> Chaotic Crystals and a mission: go back to 2015, grab one of the crates containing the cure and return to the present with them, putting them with their stockpiles of today (thus causing a time paradox and, even worse, restoring his virginity!). Using the boosted Magi-Chan, he psychically calls out to a number of people to begin the mission of correcting the hundreds of plot holes: He calls out to Allison Amber and [[BILLY MAYS]], who somehow survived [[Sonichu 9]], to load up [[Son-Chu]] with his [[PS3]], [[Guitar Hero]] and his plastic instruments and head for the 4-Cent Garbage HQ; he then tells [[Patti-chan]] that Sonichu's coming to pick up the other five Chaotic Crystals and to move the still-trapped [[Crystal]] over to his office near his desk; he tells Sonichu to get said Crystals and meet him at [[4chan|4-Cent Garbage]]'s HQ by 2:30; and finally, he tells [[Blake]] and [[Punchy]] to also head for the HQ. Chris also lets Wild play in his [[Chris and reality|imaginary band]]. With everything set up, Chris transforms in Chris-Chan Sonichu and we're at where we left off from [[Sonichu 9]], sort of.

===Rage Against the Garbage 2: Electric Boogaloo===

[[Image:DevilTrolls.JPG|thumb|left|Devil trolls, in all their disgusting glory.]]

Chris, before killing his enemies, makes a stop at a building where he keeps all his Sonichu-related gear (a large, not-so-subtle sign notes the building is somehow hosted by Tripod, one of Chris's original webspace providers). He enters to find his stuff safe and sound, until the Devil [[Trolls]] emerge, resembling winged, evil Troll dolls. Chris goes on the attack, swatting many of them away. The troll's flesh-colored tails look suspiciously like [[pickle|penises]], especially when Chris [[homos#Evidence that Chris is a homo|grabs one by the tail]], sending a pleasurable wave of electricity through the creature, causing its tail to become stiff and erect.

Chris manages to defeat all the devil trolls and proceeds to go on a lengthy, pointless rant/ad for the videogame "Fairytale Fights." He then explains, [[fail|as best he can]], the ESRB rating system, such as "M" being for "Moof" and how one shouldn't "be a Moof or aloof" and "keep it "E" or "T" for your children". He clarifies that, even though he wants others to stick to E or T-rated games, he admits that he has played and enjoyed ''[[Brutal Legend]]'', though it's not clear whether he now considers himself a Moof, or perhaps even aloof. He than proceeds to teleport his useless Sonichu-related crap into his Mayoral office. After that, he creates a Lightning Bomb, performs <s>Chaos</s> Chaotic Control to teleport away from the building, erects a barrier around the building '''and fucking blows it up!''' Chris then claims that Tripod didn't have good security and had no support for Flash programs. A message in Japanese characters listed as a "controversial statement!" is seen to the right.

Chris, after "burning the Tripod bridge", proceeds to do a set of tasks, including setting up his fated first date with Lovely, who's revealed to be a busty, brown-haired girl, preparing up everything for the [[CWCipedia]] before talking to his Board of Directors, whom he literally towers over before heading on to Tennessee. [[Chris-Chan Sonichu]] rapidly advances on the [[4-cent_garbage.com]] building in Clarksville, Tennessee. Observing Chris on an HD-TV hooked up to a [[Hex Bawx]], the evil [[Jason Kendrick Howell]] prepares to spring a trap for the autistic furfag.

Apropos of nothing, a large sign hanging from the monitor informs the reader that Chris endorses Blu-Ray discs, apparently unaware that the HD format war ended prior to this comic's creation. Chris also includes a plug for ''[[LittleBigPlanet]]'' ([[gay|yay!]]), delivered by the game's mascot, Sackboy. Sackboy commands the readers to purchase the game and play Chris's Sonichu level, even if they have to buy a PS3 to do so. He further warns gamers against using illegal copies of ''LittleBigPlanet'' for [[Nintendo|Wii]] or Xbox360, as if these even existed. Chris arrives at the front door to the building and waits for [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]] to arrive with Chris's Autobot, Son-Chu, his PS3, and his ''Guitar Hero'' [[guitar]]. Somehow convinced all this shit will help him wage war against the building, Chris waits patiently, which makes you wonder why he bothered showing up early in the first place.

Inside, Jason uses an illegal Xbox copy of ''LittleBigPlanet'' to create a cage over Chris, and drops it on his head. Chris-Chan attempts to spin-dash his way out with his Sonichu powers, but the cage is too strong. With Chris-Chan's hedgehog speed neutralized, Jason's lackey, [[Beel]] uses a red tractor beam of some kind to target Chris's transformation spot, reverting him to his human form of [[Christian Weston Chandler]]. This causes his [[Medallion]] to re-materialize, and Beel's beam drags it away from Chris's body and into his waiting hand. Beel absorbs the Medallion into his hand, but feels no increase in his own power. Inside the cage, Chris notices his [[High School Ring]] sparking with energy. Sprouting [[fangs]] of confidence, Chris puts on his [[glasses]] and aims his ring at Beel, teleporting the Sonichu Medallion to his trusted [[Sweetheart]], [[Blanca]] (which is hilarious, especially after the additions). Chris explains that his high school ring was the source of his powers all along, and he uses it to transform back into Chris-Chan Sonichu. With a Hyper Beam attack, he blasts through the cage, blowing Beel into the 4-cent_garbage building.

The final page of the preview shows a photo of [[Jimmy Hill]], who is also struck by the Hyper Beam. His teeth are destroyed in the attack, and [[Bugs Bunny]] appears to scold him. Sonichu makes his lone appearance to shake his clenched fist and growl '''"Jimmy!!"''' Also, a hedgehog or something says "Dinsdale", which probably causes [[Monty Python]] fags to cream their jeans or something. Chris closes with a warning not to buy any merchandise from Jimmy Hill.

=== Comic Chris banishes his sexual insecurity===

While waiting for the rest to show up, Chris-Chan Sonichu meditates, not knowing that [[Naitsirhc]] is sneaking up behind him, planning to smack him with a plank. Chris-Chan suddenly develops Newtype abilities, senses the attack and blocks it. Naitsirhc decides that it's time to end everything and plans to turn Christian evil and [[homo|gay]]. Christian, on the other hand, says the reverse, that it's the end of evil and homosexuality. The two sonichus fight it out until the two of them conveniently hit each other in their weak spots, and both are flung to the pavement. Naitsirhc manages to get up and prepare a finishing move, as Chris surreptitiously prepares a hypodermic needle while feigning unconsciousness. Naitsirhc asks Chris if he has any last words. Chris, pretending to be a badass, says "Only three words..."

He then rises up and with great fury stabs Naitsirhc, not in the heart, but straight in his Black Sonichu Medallion. With a big "NOOOOO!", Naitsirhc transforms back into the totally straight Reldnahc Giovanni, while Chris says the [[lies|completely non-homoerotic]] phrase, '''"Drink My [[semen|Blood!]]"''' As he teleports Reldnahc to [[Kel]]'s waiting bedside, he laments that Naitsirhc never [[Sonichu 6|never wore a shirt]], but is glad the evil homo is gone. He also comments that Kel is looking very nice these days, but he never actually draws her into the strip because she's a [[women's rights|lowly woman]] and he has to save screentime for [[Chris and his ego|himself]] and his army of [[Sonichu (species)|recolors]]. At the same time, Son-Chu, Sonichu, Blake and Wild arrive. As they set up their ''Guitar Hero'' gear, Sonichu notices something on Chris's guitar - the [[PaRappa the Rapper]] cap. Sonichu puts it on and turns 2D. When Chris grabs his guitar, his [[Amnyfest Ring|ring]] reacts, turning back to his real life self to talk about laundry and [[lie]] about a [[sweetheart|relationship]] he doesn't get then quickly dismiss it. Another Son-Chu transformation (its page ''reused'' from Episode 20), and it seems that Chris has gathered the [[Christian and the Hedgehog Boys COMEBACK!|Hedgehog Boys]] to rock out... and Chris's legs seem to deform at the knees as well. The next page is a doctored picture of Chris because he's too lazy to draw anything else at the moment. Chris looks particularly bored in this picture, really distracting from the intended drama of the moment.

[[Image:ClydeJackGay.JPG|thumb|Artist's depiction of Clyde and Jack's final moments.]]

===POWER RANGERS FUCK YEAH===

The song they start to play is [[Power Rangers|"Revive Zordon"]], a particularly horrible song to the tune of "Cat Scratch Fever" extolling the superiority of the original Power Rangers over the later iterations. As Chris [[fail|rocks out]], Beel, evidently alive, [[Clyde Cash]], making his first official appearance in the comics, and [[Jack Thaddeus]], also making his first appearance, warn [[Jason Kendrick Howell]] that the building can't take this kind of rock and say they must escape. Jason tells the three that, yes, he is escaping and retiring to a two-story house in the suburbs. He, then, tells them that he's STRAIGHT and that he doesn't want to be involved in the slandering and mockery anymore. As he escapes, Beel decides to abandon those two for being homosexual and for slandering and mocking an innocent man. With no choice left, and in perhaps the only remotely touching moment in ''Sonichu'', Jack and Clyde hold hands like true heroes as they express their deep remorse for slandering Chris and making [[homos]] look even worse than they already are, before leaping down the 72 story elevator shaft as Chris and the crew proceed with their plan to murder every single living thing in the building. For someone who has dealt with [[Ivy|suicide]] personally, Chris is awfully supportive of it as a means of eliminating his greatest enemies without getting his hands dirty.

As the building fell, it is said that there were about 1500 [[trolls|people]] in the building during the collapse. Those closest to the ground got out scot-free. 250 trolls got out safely when Chris and his crew went to save them. 250 other trolls were too [[alcohol|drunk]] to get out. Of those 125 trolls were either injured or dead, along with another 125 sober. Of the remaining 500, 250 were safe, 150 injured and 100 dead. [[fail|Note that although Chris states that there were 1500 people in the building, this only adds up to 1375.]] A memorial would be put up in the ruins and [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] and 4-Cent Garbage would lose its data and "never return", despite the fact that they probably had back ups. [[Twin Falling Towers|This is not the first time one of Chris's anti-troll diatribes has twisted the imagery of a collapsing building that killed hundreds of people to his own selfish purposes.]]

[[Image:NoMoreHomos.jpg|thumb|left|Depiction of Mayor Chandler's success in ''poisoning'' the city's water supply. Wait, what?]]

Ignoring this little bit to put the spotlight back on him, Chris laments on how those there wasted their talents for trolling, comparing them to ''[[Wikipedia:TMZ|TMZ]]''. It quickly goes into a non sequitur, where it shows cameras focusing on [[Women's rights|Rosechu on the toilet inserting a tampon]], [[Rosechu]] and Sonichu in the middle of some bondage deal and filming Robbie talking about [[Random-access humor|how he pissed on a lizard]]. Before it goes any further, Magi-Chan returns from screwing with the timestream and [[Mailbag 31#Magi-Chan knows when you fuck|being Big Brother]]. Upon returning, Magi-Chan declares that testing on the vaccine is a success and that he brought the crates to the present and are sending them across on trucks. It is said that one February 24th, 2009, homosexuality will be eradicated and the day will be called [[Chris and his Ego|"Christian Love Day"]]. He also says that Silvana will eventually be returned to a TRUE and [[HONEST]] female from [[GodJesus]] and [[Fail|fall in love with Magi-Chan]].

===Chris trolls himself again===

All of a sudden, [[Family Guy|Meg Griffin]] shows up and says that she's a [[fail|fan of the comic series]]. As they talk, a guy walks up and taunts Meg, calling her a 'sir' - which is common for Meg. Chris stands up for her and the guy insults Chris instead. Chris flips his lid and [[Chris and anger|sucker punches the guy]]. Meg thanks him by kissing Chris, meaning Chris has cheated on his future wife AGAIN. As they leave, it's revealed that Meg was actually [[Silvana]] in disguise, commenting on how easy it was to troll him. Yes, Chris did just depict himself making out with someone who has a penis, why do you ask?

===Ultra Sonichu and [[Collosal Chan]]===

After taking the time to grovel at his fans for the past comic and begging them not to abandon him, he and Sonichu take the Sonichu Ball Crystal things and transform into [[Collosal Chan]] and [[Ultra Sonichu]]. After transforming, Chris decides to go back to CWCVille, but tells Ultra Sonichu to head for RuleCWC with Darkbind Sonichu before heading for [[Asperchu|Minnesota]] and wait for him. Back in CWCVille, Chris enters the [[Dark Mirror Hole]] and rescues Crystal from the mirror with all the fanfare of picking up a bag of groceries. As Crystal comes to, Allison says that she's called the paramedics to look after her. For some reason Crystal refers to Christian as "Christopher", though it's not clear if this is meant to be some kind of sign between the siblings, or if Chris just forgot about his [[The Bear|name change]].

Meanwhile in RuleCWC, Darkbind Sonichu is kneeling by Zelina Rosechu when Ultra Sonichu arrives, striking the same pose as Jesus Christ on the Cross. In "Da Cave", a stone breaks open and someone, possibly Clawdorf, realizes the Chaotic Crystals freed him, then asks how long he was out. That's right, the act of Chris and Sonichu activating their super forms allows a vaguely defined evil force to escape imprisonment. It's not like Chris and Sonichu ''needed'' to transform, either. The greatest threat to CWCville at the moment is Chris himself as he [[Twin Falling Towers|destroys various buildings]] with the power of [[fail|rock]]. Sonichu uses his power to revive Zelina, who acts like the rest of the vapid Rosechus over what Darkbind did for her. This rescue complete, Ultra Sonichu races out, but not before he "coles" the window hatch.

[[Image:DBNT2G_police.jpg|thumb|right|Chris could have picked ''Mass Effect 2'' when lusting after a dating game. Instead, he consciously chose ''this.'' Not entirely unforeseen!]]

In Minnesota, Collosal Chan and Ultra Sonichu hover over the house of Alec Benson Leary, and break in. Discovering Alec's computer (which is revealed to be a [[Hex_bawx|HEX BAWX]] "Pavillion"; note Chris's computer is an [[Wikipedia:HP Pavilion (computer)|HP Pavillion]]), Chris [[Chris and sex|inserts his finger]] into a USB port, then concentrates and rips off ''Shadow the Hedgehog'' by placing himself inside the computer. Once inside, Chris proceeds to delete all files within the [[Asperpedia]], ban Mao, Sean, [[Evan]] and Alec, the delete their accounts. He then steals a "better dating simulator" (likely [http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=6182 "Don't Be Nervous Talking to Girls"]) with the retarded intention to modify it for PS3 use, as though XBox owners don't deserve a shitty dating simulator, before he escapes, planting another Lightning Bomb to blow up the HEX BAWX. While Chris was doing this, Ultra Sonichu enters Alec's room, commenting on the [[Chris and art|bad art]] from the Asperchu series. While the art in Asperchu is hardly professional grade, at the very least it shows some understanding of perspective, proportion, and pacing. If anything it looks like a moderately skilled artist who just happens to be drawing very quickly, whereas Sonichu looks like it's drawn by a [[Christian Weston Chandler|retarded child]].

While investigating the dirty room, Ultra Sonichu overhears people talking and, upon leaving, discovers Asperchu and his variation of the Chaotic Combo, whom are tired of his world's mall. Upon seeing him, the Sonichu and Rosechu start going off into a nearly god-like praise for the [[Honest Content|TRUE and HONEST]] Sonichu. The malformed beasts then proceed to tell Ultra Sonichu how Alec infected them all with Asperger's and pushed homosexuality on them and that they had real names before Alec gave them the names of the Chaotic Combo. Ultra Sonichu then uses his powers to cure them of Asperger's, transforming them into Michael, Bobby, Kitty, Trisha, Whisp and Swift (all of whom will never appear again). Asperchu then turns into a muscle-bound Sonichu known as Mitch. As thanks, Sonichu tells them not to listen to Alec and his group and just live free. As he does, Chris blows up the HEX BAWX.

At this point the group literally [[Chris and his ego|bows down before Chris]] and Sonichu, before Chris politely informs them that he's not God; simply a representative of God. Metal Asperchu then shows up and assaults the group. Chris creates a barrier, though he doesn't bother to use his nigh-omnipotence to destroy the enemy or send him to the [[The Moon|goddamn moon]] and instead forces the non-chaotic Combo to combine their powers to defeat the creature. With that out of the way, they thank Chris again for being so awesome, then spot Asperchu creator Alec Benson Leary off-screen, and go to [[death threats|physically assault him]]. Chris has never seen an actual picture of Alec, and so he is never depicted. Alec apparently had a group of Rosechus locked in his basement, and Chris nonchalantly decides to go ahead and use his powers to rescue them as well.

Page 65 is a wall of text so mindbogglingly long and retarded that Chris has to cut his way out from the previous page (or something) to cram a picture. The tl;dr of it is an attempt to once again retcon everything his characters have done in anyone else's comics, reaffirming their sexuality, sweethearts, occupations, and rebuking any characterizations that say otherwise, in an attempt to absolutely distinguish that his Sonichu is unrelated to Asperchu in any way. He finishes by stating that his characters will never go to Minnesota, nor interact with any Mitch/Asperchu unless he says so. A point of interest is an implication that Chris thinks using Magi-chan to railroad the plot illustrates his "strength", as he considers Alec's take on the character to be "weak" for not doing exactly this. He also seems to think that Metal Asperchu is a Pokemon, which is strange considering that his [[Metal Sonichu|own robot]] has no place on his convoluted evolution chart.

Impatient, Ultra Sonichu asks Great Director Chris if they can continue with the story.

Back in CWCville, the Chaotic Combo and others sit at a table talking about why they hate the Asperpedia comics so much. This includes insulting the art, the mischaracterizations, and intellectual property rights. [[Simonla]] specifically denounces [[Evan]] (who has been trying to convince Chris to remove her from the comic via the [[Mailbag]] for weeks), who retconned her as a female clone of [[Simonchu]] in his own comic. [[Allison Amber]] speaks poorly of [[Fan:Moon-Pals|Moon-Pals]], but can't seem to offer any specific complaints about the series. Crystal asks the group to calm down and wait for Chris to return, so that he can tell the president, and have Asperpedia taken down. Magi-chan ominously hints that Chris's will has to be done, lest CWCville, and possibly the world, fall into total chaos and anarchy. For some reason, Thomas Jefferson's house was used as an example of the structural damage that would be incurred.

Finally, Ultra Sonichu and the 4 unnamed Rosechus supposedly from [[Chris|Alec's]] basement arrive in one of CWCville's many [[A Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas Story|soup hotel]]s. Sonichu rambles on about the concept of a soup hotel while the dirty and emaciated Rosechus just stare on despondently. [[Basement Rosechus|The Rosechus]], named Brit-tay, Bride, Moe and Mary, decide to live their lives <s>as vapid airheads who do nothing but simper over Sonichus</s> the way they should. Ultra Sonichu helps Mary into a wheelchair and flies off. As he leaves, he runs into [[Inos]], a very high [[niggo]], obviously another satisfied customer of [[Yawning Squirtle]]. He offers Ultra Sonichu some weed, but he declines. The guy tells Sonichu he's been fighting a cold for five years and Sonichu thinks it's because of the nicotine (yes, folks. The man's high and Chris thinks it's because of tobacky!). He has Magi-Chan summon [[Constables Gerald Grant and Louis Perez|some cops]] to slap him on the wrist for smoking, put him in the soup house and put his stash in the NASA rocket set for [[the Moon]], where [[Fan: Moon-Pals|certain people will know how to use it better]]. Flying to the highest point of CWCVille, Ultra Sonichu uses Chaotic Control to free every [[Jerkop]] in the city.

===The Final Countdown===

Meanwhile, Collosal Chan confronts [[Slaweel Ryam]] in the [[PVCC]]. There, Slaweel tells her sob story about how she was an outcast, how she tried to cause others the same misfortune as some means for Chris to justify the running plot thread of Mary Lee Walsh and her Jerkops had been somehow trying to stop TRUE and HONEST love and keep VIRGINIA for VIRGINS. [[Count Graduon]] had told her he could help her, but that obviously [[fail]]ed. Slaweel gives Chris Graduon's wand and tells him to smash it, her boobs apparently inflating to the levels of [[Mary Lee Walsh#Fan art|troll fan art]] as she does. Chris looks at it like an idiot and does so without a second thought. With that, Chris goes into a spiel in which he complains about how he's never had any luck with trying to find someone himself and how he cursed the male population for it. He creates [[Things Chris has ripped off|electric versions of Kratos's blades]] before declaring that he will kill Slaweel and never forgive her. The two start fighting and, of course, Chris gets the upper hand, reflecting Slaweel's attacks back at her before deftly defeating her. Because Chris is so paranoid about people getting the "wrong" impression about him, he clarifies that Mary is only paralyzed, and not outright killed.

[[File:TEVDoesHisThingp.jpg|thumb|How it went down.]]

With Slaweel defeated, Chris goes on to make a public announcement, mentioning that Slaweel has been put in a maximum security prison, with her ex-manajerks being released free of charges. He also goes on to allow homosexuality in CWCVille, but makes marriage illegal. He appoints Crystal head of social relations to try to make things better. As he talks, admitting [[Asperchu|Alec]] had a bigger fan base, [[Simonla]] goes to the bathroom, leaving [[Wild]] to tend to their egg. ''Deus Ex Machina'' that he is, Magi-Chan stops [[Evan]] and [[Simonchu]] from killing Simonla, but isn't able to stop Alec from planting Toilet Exploding Voltorb, which detonates and hits Simonla while she's taking a piss. The police and medics race to deal with the aftermath, with Magi-Chan handing Evan and Simonchu over to the police. As Wild tends to Simonla, she gives him her "lucky shark's tooth" (aka the drill pendant Chris stole from Evan's Simonchu design, which itself was taken from Simon the driller from ''Gurren Lagann'').

As Wild worries and everyone tries to save Simonla, things go downhill and Simonla dies. Wild is told the bad news by [[Bill the Scientist]] and plans to get revenge on Simonla's killers, only to be stopped by Magi-Chan, since the killers had all conveniently already been arrested. At that time, Simonla's egg hatches, and the first thing the Rosey asks is "Where's Mommy?" Magi-Chan, insensitive fuck that he is, tells her point blank Evan killed her. Over the week, Wild tends to the little Rosey, who quickly evolves into [[Sandy Rosechu]]. Some explanation is given for Sandy's training and home life, including a mention that she is taught English (even though she is shown to be perfectly capable of speaking full sentences at the exact moment of her birth).

===Forgiveness...?===

The sequence of events is interspersed with Chris delivering an [[Alec_Benson_Leary_Phone_Call_6|apology]] to Alec and Evan and bestowing a Forgiveness Blessing on Mao. Both are completely undermined by the events of the next several pages, proving yet again that Chris [[Chris_and_remorse#Motivation_to_apologize|views an apology purely as a way to get people off his back]].

[[File:FreeAsperpedia4.jpg|thumb|left|Public reaction to Chris's abortion of justice]]
Time then jumps ahead to the trial of CWCVille versus Alec, Sean, Evan and Mao. Presided by Judge Slack Lewis (who seems to be based on comedian Lewis Black), he calls for attorney [[Harvey Birdman|Marvey]] [[Pokemon|Blaziken]] to make the opening statements. Although the four are ostensibly on trial for the murder of Simonla, <s>Chris</s> Marvey makes sure to tack on a long list of charges related to the existence of the Asperpedia, such as plagiarism, mockery, [[Chris_and_hypocrisy#.22Don.27t_be_a_moof_or_aloof.22_.E2.80.94_Mature_content|gory pages]], and all that fucking swearing. Sean, acting as defense lawyer, makes an opening statement while high. The judge asks for order in the court and Sean orders [[fail|a beer float and pot stickers]]. All four enter a plea of not guilty and are summarily convicted based on the existence of their respective comics, the remote control for the deadly Voltorb, and Magi-Chan's mind-reading abilities. They're then sentenced to be [[Chris_and_hypocrisy#.22I_would_have_them_ESS-acuted.21.22_.E2.80.94_Capital_Punishment|executed]] by those they allegedly hurt.

[[File:SandyKiller.JPG|thumb|Artist's depiction of Sandy's mental state.]]
Alec is first, put on the Ten-Button Electric Chair. Each button is pressed by Chris or one of the hedgehogs, each one dwelling on how they were portrayed in Asperchu - meaning Alec is '''flash-fried''' for daring to write a comic--notable instances include Sonichu's protest of "I'M NOT GAY", Punchy's cry of "BLOOD AND GORE", Bubbles and her bitch Blake bitching about that Bubbles is not retarded, and Bionic's claim that he is not a robot. Evan is chained to a wall and '''drilled to bits by the infant Sandy''', who keeps his glasses as a trophy (nothing fucked up there) before Wild helps her finish him off. '''Sean is shot to death by Allison, Bill and Kellie''' and finally Chris '''[[I'LL BREAK YOU DEAD |breaks Mao]] with his psychic powers, twisting his legs at unnatural angles before finally crushing his heart''', making this the bloodiest comic ever, [[Chris and Hypocrisy|despite Chris stating just ''pages'' earlier that the rampant gore in the Asperpedia was practically criminal.]]

Although the battle with [[Mary Lee Walsh]] was the culmination of years of comics by Chris coming to a head, it is given far less time and importance than the trial and execution by the Asperpedia crew. Similarly, Crystal's rescue from the [[Dark Mirror Hole]] is done in about a page and a half, with no dialogue and no indication that it is in any way significant to the plot.

Right after killing four people and involving a toddler in the execution, Chris goes on a rant about his egotistical holiday, [[Christian Love Day]], and rips off Independence Day. The comic ends with a page dedicating the book to [[PandaHalo]] and includes her original fanart and a page from her comic.

==="Extras"===

As a super [[Autism|special]] bonus for his readers sitting through the weeks long wait for updates, Chris uploaded "Marvey Blaziken, Attorney at Law" a picture featuring the blatant rip-off of...[[Harvey Birdman|you can guess exactly who.]] Demonstrating that he has learned absolutely nothing from [[Alec Benson Leary calls| his talks with Alec]], Chris essentially tells his [[True and Loyal Fanbase]] to fuck off and let his "inspiration" come naturally, a process that can take [[Sonichu 8| months.]] Interestingly, and unsurprisingly, the page is just a recycled book page with added text.

True to his word ([[lies|for a change]]) Chris then proceeds to stop updating the comic while he waits for "inspiration" to happen.
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==Reaction==

===Preview===
As Chris became increasingly determined to convince the public that his Medallion had never been successfully stolen, the trolls posing as Blanca responded with photos and videos to support their claims. Finally, the medallion was destroyed on a video uploaded to [[YouTube]] on 20 October 2008.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-TP2wCucZo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-TP2wCucZo]</ref>

===Simonla's Death===
On 13 February 2010, Chris e-mailed [[Evan]], revealing two pages that were slated to appear in Sonichu 10. In these pages, Chris (who obviously is NOT pulling himself out of the comic) admits that [[Asperchu]] is not as bad as it seems, and begs for forgiveness from Evan and the rest. As he speaks, [[Simonla]] asks [[Wild]] to hold her bags while she goes to the bathroom. In the bathroom, the toilet she's in explodes. Simonla has just enough time to tearfully hand Wild her <s>special drill bit</s> lucky shark's tooth before [[Bill the Scientist|Bill the <s>Scientist</s>Doctor]] tells Wild that she died. (In the explosion scene, only the bathroom door is shown, and Simonla's death is not actually shown on page. This directly contradicts the instructions Evan repeatedly gave Chris, where Simonla was supposed to die on page.) Wild mourns for one panel before Magi-Chan reveals the location of her murderer, and Wild declares revenge.

The preview was the end result of an ongoing tug of war between Chris and Evan over the use of Simonla Rosechu. Evan had wanted Simonla pulled out of the comics ASAP, but Chris, being [[Ego|Chris]], refused. When Evan told Chris to kill Simonla, Chris refused, stating that it [[Chris and reality|would upset Wild Sonichu]]<ref>[[Mailbag 26]]</ref>. This war of words would culminate in Evan getting the CWCipedia shut down, forcing Chris to either swallow his pride or start hunting down a new web server. Chris, lazy fuck that he is, chose the former for the benefit of mankind.

On 25 February 2010, Chris revised those pages, revealing without a doubt that it was Evan, Sean, Mao and Alec who killed Simonla and viciously slaying the four of them. The Asperpedia Four responded by giving control of the CWCipedia ads back to [[Jack Thaddeus]], who proceeded immediately to renew his campaign to flood Chris's website with [[homo]] [[pickles]]. On 1 March 2010, Chris announced via his [[Twitter]] account that he would be re-revising the end of Sonichu 10 in order to make peace with Alec and company - probably in the hope that doing so will result in Jack removing his dreadfully pornographic ads.

==See also==
*[[Blanca]]
*[[Medallion of Fail]]
*[[Amnyfest Ring]]

==Sauces==
<references/>

==External links==
*[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php/Issue_10/Page_1 Sonichu #10]
*[http://cogsdev.110mb.com/sonichu/SchuComic10Preview.htm Sonichu #10 Preview]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgLZjhsmgpY Audiobook (erroneously referred to as a preview of #9)]
*[http://www.youtube.com/user/Ickeriss69 Youtube profile containing three videos proving the fate of the original Sonichu Medallions] 

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[[Category:Sonichu comic book issues]]

Talk:The Wallflower

2010-04-19T11:23:20Z

Yoshi2021:

Okay faggots, listen up. No personal details. Ever. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
* Would photos of her count as personal details? There's a photo on this page clearly showing her. --[[User:Marco|Marco]] 01:54, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
** If you're referring to the photo that's currently up there it's a shop - in particular, the facial features are so different that nobody could possibly connect her to the picture unless they'd seen the source photo. --[[User:Team CWCket|Team CWCket]] 11:16, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
*Gotcha. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 01:18, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**Am I missing something here? Didn't Chris just inform us that this girl is no longer interested in him, with Message to the Trolls? So why are we locking down details about her now, when EDF can do no more damage? Or is there more to this?--[[User:Sonichuistehcool|Sonichuistehcool]] 01:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I'm sure that she got some sort of email/phone call, but we don't know enough about her or the situation to assume that she's fully out of the picture. Until then, it's better to have less info than too much info. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 01:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Some explanation please? I mean, all the other galpal articles have info, what happened here? [[User:Dave|Dave]]
*i have received a message from wallflower herself asking for her info to be removed. while i'd rather not remove any information, at the same time, the article was focusing on personal details about the wallflower that weren't at all related to chris. since i'd rather avoid any trouble here, i've complied with her request. this new article should be used purely for chris-related information, since she is part of christory. if chris uploads information, then you can add it here, but don't add anything you found through internet investigation or whatever. --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 01:28, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
** A'ight, but can we have a background on the story on cwcki? You know, what happened for them to break up and stuff. [[User:Loserbrain|Loserbrain]] 01:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*** There's no break up as far as I know. But I'm sure something must have happened between yesterday and today. We can document the drama but be vague. Example: Dedicated trolls found her information and then Chris got mad. Real mad. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 01:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****Does this mean all the sweetheart pages are going to be changed? -PeaceCeapPea
*****Most of the sweethearts were trolls. Megan avoid this site like rape, so I don't think we need to worry about it. [[User:Loserbrain|Loserbrain]] 02:32, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*Why are we doing this? Didn't Megan ask us for her dox to be taken off the internet? How do we know the message wasn't sent by a troll or a white knight?--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 02:12, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**Have you seen the latest video from Chris? He found the CWCki. I guess "WallFlower" used Google. Another thing; Chris volunteered the info we got on him. She dint. We dint passed the Dox of other sweethearts or made fun of them as we did with her. Just for this, It had to be removed. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 02:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*My apologies for deleting this page this page. I just woke up and I was confused about what the fuck was going on. I thought some faggot thought Chris was talking about two different girls. I absolutely agree with Cogs one hundred percent, if Wallflower requested this page to be taken down, I think that's a humble request given that the article was a threat to her wellbeing. It's not so much trying to cover our asses, I really can understand that the Wallflower (unlike Megan, who really didn't have much of an online presence) would have trolls be a very real threat and unlike Chris, she probably doesn't feed off negative attention.
:I regret that I did not address the dox in the pages. I really wasn't a big fan of having her Facebook, MySpace, etc. profile on there, aside from Chris related issues, mostly because we don't do the same thing for Megan and we shouldn't encourage faggots trolling Chris related people who have little to do with Chris.
:I think one lesson from this is we need to discuss some sort of privacy policy for CWCki. A less brash version of Clyde's dictum is that we should possibly treat pages about people only from the Chris universe perspective, that is how Chris views them and sees them as opposed to digging into personal details from online investigations. But yeah, people, let's not do shit like post MySpaces, Facebooks, and don't post people's personal information unless Chris posts it on the Internet for everyone to see. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:46, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:* Seems fair enough. There was, in retrospect, no hope of keeping a lid on this whole thing, I think, no matter how much or how little personal info got posted here - as soon as her given name got out there, it was inevitable that some goof was gonna link her to this or to the ED page or to the sex doll video or whatever else. But that seems like a good policy for simple decency's sake. I apologize for getting carried away with all the links on the page yesterday. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 12:59, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

*I think the wording of this article should be more explicit as to how and what kind of idiot it was that contacted her over all this. I mean most EDF retards won't read krapple or PVCC etc. but they do read the Cwcki, and it might help in the future to have here an example to hold up of what exactly happens when you go the JULAYYY route of trolling. [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 02:37, 11 March 2010 (UTC) 02:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

**Who cares about it, it seems something else is stirring within Chris. Guess he still has it out for me. Hmph. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 07:57, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

***I think we ought to be more careful with the information we post here. Most if not all CWCki contributors are either on /cwc/ or PVCC, but the readers are partially dumbasses (not just from EDF, I presume) who will fuck shit up. Yes, it's a shame this happens, but ultimately we are to blame here. It was very obvious the CWCki article on her would lead to someone contacting her. Documenting information is important, but perhaps there should be some articles protected from viewing? I don't know. --[[User:Wtv|Wtv]] 10:48, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*combine with the sonichu crystals to the [Wallflower] page?? [[user:I_Love_Little_Girls|I Love Little Girls]] 10:23, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::no they want that page gone, that's why it's over here without any references to her personally. --[[User:Digital|Digital]] 11:03, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::oh, i see. whatevss [[user:I_Love_Little_Girls|I Love Little Girls]] 11:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*Yeah, I thought the same thing so don't feel bad. tl;dr is that Wallflower asked for it to be removed and Cogs complied, because it was a reasonable request. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

*Wow, now we turned into Moralfags and we are going to censor trolling, for the sake of the trolls who already know who she is. Also, it is not that difficult to do a fucking google search and found everything there is to found about this girl, so this is just stupid. If you had any respect in the first place for any of the friends or family of chris chan you would not have all the information you have on them all over the page, and that's not the case, so for what I can see here this is a very hypocritical position, or this is just part of a trolling plan.--[[User:SGSS01|SGSS01]] 10:04, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:One, we're not Moralfags.
Two, the dox was removed by her request.
Three, if we put the dox back up, she could net us some downtime for invading her privacy and personal life.
So fuck off. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 21:18, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::Taking down the page because we put information already publicly available on the internet?, lulz, let her send in detectives, send in police, send everything in her power!. I'm sorry but that's not a valid reason, we have personal information about a lot of persons, and many of those don't even use the internet, or is information we got from hacked mail accounts (Cole), and fuck, he really could take the site down just for that, and we still have his article.--[[User:SGSS01|SGSS01]] 03:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:::There's a legal liability out there. Chris says most of what he wants. If he sue the site for libel, he will lose since all the material here mostly came from his own (dirty) hands. Wallflower on the other side came from nowhere and the tone used to describe her was quite unflattering. Keeping Wallflower previous page on line would had brought to this site much trouble (including legal ones) so it was wise to shut it down. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:46, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:::* What about the things that were coerced from him? Do those fall under acceptable use or not?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:12, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
::::*Coercing implies some form of entrapment. At any time Chris had the possibility to walk out and stop posting on the net as Chris-Chan. He dint. Up to there, humping his PS3 is on fact voluntary from his part. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:11, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:We can put name what is she going to do? Chris reveal her name. We are NOT moralfags. If its on the internet its public information (as long as it is not credit card numbers, passwords, or SSN) we are just data mining. --[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 21:30, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::Any troll can go data-mining. We are not trolls, we are Christorians; Holy scribes monitoring the advent and life of the "Messiah Of Fail". It is in our upmost interest to play nice. How many of us would salivate over an e-mail of five lines from Megan ranting about Chris? Let's be nice to the Wallflower; she might bring us something great in the future. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
==Srsly though...==
To improve the article:
# Wallflower really isn't a sweetheart. Nothing public about this yet but as most of you can tell, she's more or less Megan - because she has managed to be around Chris for more than five seconds, Chris takes this to mean sexual interest and a serious relationship.
# We need a pic of a Wallflower. Like, literally, a flower growing out of a wall. Not a drawn pic, but an actual photograph. Shouldn't be too hard to fine, just don't feel like it now. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
[[File:ClydeandLovelyweather.jpg|thumb|center]]
Here you go a photo of what resembles Heather with Clyde Cash --[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 04:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:"We need a pic of a Wallflower. Like, literally, a flower growing out of a wall." Moralfag my ass. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 02:20, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

[[File:Aliteralallflower.jpg|thumb|center]]--[[User:Curseshot|Curseshot]] 21:39, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
:You're winner. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000]] 02:20, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

==Pimp Claim Responsibility==

This bloke known on YouTube as "ThyEnvysGreed" claim he's the one who [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRr-N5_V_9s alerted wallflower]. What should we do with this faggot? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
* It's possible the guy's full of shit and just taking credit for something. Going by the comments 'they' have been making, this is quite likely; his 'group' seems to be out to make a name for themselves rather than just have a laugh at Chris's expense. Aside from that, just do what everyone seems to be doing already; spam his comments informing him of what a massive prick he is and that he should lay off the fucking donuts. [[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 16:51, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:*This. Seriously, guys, let's not give credit to faggots who want attention. Damage is done, we need to move on. Besides [[CWCki:CWCki_is#CWCki_is_about_Chris|CWCki is about Chris]], not so much faggots like this. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:12, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**I agree with the comment spamming, just piledrive him into the dirt. He fucked up an opportunity for some awesome shit. I would understand if he were trying to get a laugh out of messing with Chris, but he's just looking for e-fame. I say we don't give him that much attention unless it's totally negative.--[[User:JRampancy|JRampancy]] 16:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I'll need to find the picture I saw on /cwc/, but he also had an account on Fanfiction.net and I think that's how he alerted her, since I don't think they allow anonymous reviews anymore. And it was the same screen name.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 17:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****Well gentlemen, I believe it's time to do what we do best. IT'S TROLLING TIME, LADS.[[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 17:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*Faggot deleted it. Did anyone save it? '''[[User:Odettafag|blind justice.]]''' [[User talk:Odettafag|to each his own.]] 18:11, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
** [http://rs336.rapidshare.com/files/362046356/whatafuckingtard.flv It's right there] [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:02, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*** Thanks! '''[[User:Odettafag|blind justice.]]''' [[User talk:Odettafag|to each his own.]] 19:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
He's a troll, you guys. Attention will only make him stronger unless we find his house (which is unlikely). Until someone can dox him, the best course of action is to ignore him, depriving him of his e-fame. Bonus points if fifty different accounts simultaneously claim that they're the ones who pissed off Wallflower so nobody takes his claims seriously.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 18:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***I can't believe he tucked tail and ran away so quickly. He did post on [[A message to the Trolls]] which is still there for the viewing. [[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 20:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)meeko
***There's also a message in [[Don't Mess With Me]], still in plain view and for all to see. He's like The Pinch - a coward who wants e-fame. Pure and simple.--[[User:Blazer|Blazer]] 21:07, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*He destroyed your guy's plans to get drama out of a guy! Oh no. Just calm down. Seriously, it's not a big deal. [[User:Chaosakita|Chaosakita]] 05:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:* It is. Chris is the most interesting when conversing with "normal" people - especially women. --[[User:Derpalerp|Derpalerp]] 08:28, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

** I found anothe possible leaker on twitter he/she says and I quote "Sonichuproducts @CWCSonichu I dare your faggot ass to do a curse ya fuck yo momma or whatever it is on me, I told Heather you dirty Retarded bitch."

could it be a lead or just an attention seeking fag?--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 23:17, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
*Krapple did a bit of detective work and found that he has another account-"6thof66" or something like that. Calls himself "the Agonstic Saint" and says he rejected his real name- his friends call him Sage after some wise man, according to him. He's 24 and lives somewhere in Texas. He lives alone and cut off all ties with his family. His videos there are mostly of him bitching and moaning about religion in general and Christianity in particular. Most importantly, one of his videos shows his license plate number- BJ6-G449. Make the most of it.--[[User:This guy|This guy]] 14:17, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
**Never mind, the above isn't thyenvysgreed. It was a fake lead put by a butthurt ED lurker with a grudge. He still looks like he's worth trolling, though.--[[User:This guy|This guy]] 14:43, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
==Now that Chris has dropped her name...==
Is it ok to mention her first name on this page?--[[User:AdderCress|AdderCress]] 15:41, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
*You have a point, and I see the logic, but I think the whole point of removing her name was sending a message to the rest of the trolls (and the external observers) that we are actually decent people. To go back on that would be to lose a social lead which is more valuable than the person's name. Again, this is just what I think. Feel free to prove me wrong. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 15:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
*But there is no point in hiding her name, the problem with his page was the loads of information about her, not related to Chris, and since Chris mentioned her name; her name, her relation to Chris and anything Chris related shall be posted here, no more info about her. [[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 16:05, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:*You make a fair point, however given that Chris 1) assumes that it's a video only Tito will watch (forgetting that public YouTube videos are, you know, public) and 2) he's retarded like that, the thought that mentioning her name again probably didn't cross his mind. However, Wallflower asked us nicely to remove her page and adding her name back would sort of violate the spirit of that agreement. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:56, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::* I understand, but then, should we censor part of the kilt video when Chris says her name?, of course, keeping a copy of the original, and linking it on the page, and replacing her name with the pseudonym in the transcript. Better safe than sorry.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 17:31, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:::*In my opinion, censoring the material would only draw more attention to the Wallflower's identity. People would start looking at the stuff that has been deliberately removed and get more and more curious and try to find it. Especially if we have a copy of video with the name bleeped or transcript with the name removed, while Chris has the actual video up on his own account. My idea would be ''not'' to cover her identity specifically (which this article already does that), but if Chris keeps rambling about it, there's little we can really do. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' ([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]]) 17:53, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::::* But this page, as well as the LittleBigPlanet one reference the wallflower's name and her likes, is not really hard to find her anyways.By the way, someone already censored it in the kilt video.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 18:24, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::* It would be nice if someone contact Wallflower and tells her that Chris keep on yelling her name on the internet while wearing a dress. I am concerned with all this. A well-determined Grieffer can still reach her because the manchild can't keep his pie-hole shut.[[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 17:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::**I've sent two messages to her on Facebook and she hasn't responded yet. Also, PVCC isn't telling us something--Scarlet/Kim/Emily knows Heather, according to Chris.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 18:38, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::***Interesting twist. In this case, our best option is to lie down and wait for the PVCC to make their moves. They always bring the best Lulz. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:32, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
No. The CWCki needs to be smart about this kind of thing. When a person is angry about Chris's antics and actively asks the CWCki to take their information down, that person should be respected. It's fine to document Chris's antics that he publicly puts online, but Wallflower did not ask to be a part of Chris's online life and has specifically tried to distance herself from all this. For that matter, I'm of the opinion that if Megan ever came to the CWCki and asked to have materials taken down or hidden, it should be done, too. Same goes for Bob, Barb or anyone else who has not deliberately made themselves a part of Chris's online life. If a person deliberately makes themselves a part of Chris's online life, then their "details" are a fair thing to put up. If they are trying as hard as they can to get away from Chris's online life, then their "details" should be respected. The CWCki needs to be wise when it comes to liabilities. It is one thing to put up Chris's funny antics that he's made known publicly. It is another thing to put up unnecessary personal details of a person who has never asked to associate with Chris in a public way. Besides, all said and done, there's no need to document her name or her personal information to track Chris's stupid antics. It doesn't make Chris's antics any more funny. This brings up a great debate for the CWCki though: how far is too far? For me, I would hope there are limits. This is not a "lulz" site. [[User:Elephant|Elephant]] 20:28, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

:::My two cents is adding first name is ok since he mentioned it and it is an unspecific referential index, which means it is vague. I don't see a problem with putting their names online since you can get records with their names on it from realtors, department of elections, white pages, or the city accessor's office for free. We should put in Damian Antaria and Heather into the article since Chris mentioned it. The CWCki '''Only''' records encounters with Chris not personal information such as SSN or credit card numbers. By your logic we would have to take down the site if Chris makes the request which is NOT going to happen. The CWCki site is only recording what Chris is doing. If anyone is to be held liable it is Chris for revealing the information. For example: ''When Scooter Libby leaked info on Valerie Plame the CIA agent to the New York Times, the New York Times did not get in trouble'' If trolls wanted to find the information they would with or without the CWCki. --[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 20:52, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I support her name not neing intentionally added here. I do, however, think it is stupid to try to hide her name intentionally. I think we should refer to her as the Wallflower, but if Chris says it in a video, merely changing it in the transcript is not only ineffective, it is annoying. If he presents the information, it takes 2 seconds to watch the video and hear the name. We let it stay in the transcripts merely for the sake of flow, but then we don't call her by that name anywhere else. I think that will give everyone pretty much what they want, as her name is not spread and her info is not known, but it isn't an eyesore to read and I don't have to be constantly reminded that I'm not supposed to know her name.
Tl;dr: Hiding the name on purpose is futile and, in a selfish light, detracts from my experience (which I rail against with full force). Don't take it out of what he says, but don't put it up elsewhere. That also means that the people who missed all this won't go insane trying to find info. Meh, my idea sucks, but I'll put it out there. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 21:44, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
* I agree that it's easy to put the information together; if you Google up the information that Chris has given, you can find her easily. I think we should do more or less as you've said- present exactly what Chris says and not link the two together. Anyone who is really confused can look it up. It's no less confusing to a newb, IMO, than the articles that refer to Chris as "Ian" and Liquid as "Chris". [[User:BubblegumPinkButler|BubblegumPinkButler]] 00:21, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
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* In case no one has been keeping tabs, the alias currently in the page had been discarded, so now we should be completely safe. (Did one of you talk to her?) --[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 02:56, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
* For those of you keeping score at home, Chris himself has published her full name on the Cwcipedia under an exhaustive list of 'Past Sweethearts'. (yes yes ffffffff, goddammit chris, etc etc) Considering this nugget of fail was yielded unprovoked by the manchild, would it be against the 'no irl names' rule on this page to at least link to his cwcipedia page on here? [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 02:27, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
== Suggested Name Change ==

In his most recent [["Damian Antaria", PLEASE, Don't Leave Me - I NEED YOU!!!|video]], Chris refers to the wallflower as "Damian Antaria". I suggest we change the article to reflect this. "The wallflower" is simply a name the trolls gave her. Our purpose here is to document Chris, and so, if this is what he calls her, this is what we call her. This isn't meant to throw her personal information out there, or even link this article to her writings. If Chris wants to give us this name, then that's her name. Just saying. What do you guys think? --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 23:17, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
:I disagree for two reasons; First, Wallflower asked that we remove all her personal info. This includes, in my opinion, her pen name. Then, many Christorians out-there have adopted the name "Wallflower" to name her. Why changing that good habit and risking confusion? [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 00:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

:Because [http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Template:Captain%27s_Log&oldid=4013| Chris thinks we took this page down because he told us to]. I think we need to make it clear that we removed the information because "Damian Antaria" asked us to, not due to Chris' bloated ego and aggressive, one-sided demands --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 02:31, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

:: Chris probably just takes quick looks at the pages, i doubt that changing the name will have any effect on him, besides, the page states ""The Wallflower" aka Damian Antaria...", so, there is no need for a name change, it would be like changing articles like " Punchy sonichu" to "Punchy "Fighting" sonichu", considering that's the species for Punchy, but trolls know him as Punchy Sonichu.Ttherefore, no name change is needed.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 03:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Alright then, I agree the name is fine as is. --[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] 16:05, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

: So as long as its not Chris asking, we can't put information up on any person if they say stop? So if Bob or Barbara is overheard in a video or phone chat saying they don't want to be on the internet, we need to take down all references to them? [[User:Double Nega|Double Nega]] 16:20, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
:* This is a separate case we will need to visit if it happen. The guideline regarding WallFlower was simple; she's a victim of Chris. The term "Megan 2.0" applies here. If she asked the material to be removed, I think it is ethical to do so. Bob and Barbara are enablers. This is a whole new ballgame to me. Of course, Chris being the fucktard that he is, will keep on dropping her Dox everywhere. We don't need to be "insensitive" as he is. Besides, WallFlower might be tempted to talk to us if we play nice... [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:44, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

== Her Side of the Story ==

Has anyone tried contacting her to get her side of the story? If she is an innocent victim of Chris, than we should allow her to post her version of events as to how they met, and whether Chris was actually her boyfriend (Which I highly doubt) or merely just an friend that he wanted to rape. I know she sent an email asking for her page to be taken down, so that must me that the admins have an email address for her. It would be very enlightening to learn what relationship she has with Tito, and if she became Chris's new Megan. If she's already stated that she doesn't want to comment, that's cool. she's been victimized enough [[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 11:37, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

*she's already contacted the cwcki herself. similar to megan, she doesn't want to tell her side but fair enough. just let her be. one day, the truth may come out but not now. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 15:39, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

True. I only bring this up because it seem's she has surfaced on youtube, talking about Chris. Whether the accounts is real or a fake is up for discussion [[User:SargentPickles|SargentPickles]] 11:37, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

== Remove the fanfiction.net image? ==

I was wondering- should the "How to troll trolls & Chris" image (the_link.jpg) of fanfiction.net be removed? Surfshack Tito has been shown to be the one who informed the Wallflower about Chris's true life & internet infamy. I didn't recollect seeing any info about the "ThyEnvysGreed" person on the article anymore (unless I missed it just now), so I kind of think it should be removed because it really doesn't have much to do with the Wallflower herself or Chris, not really anyway. I thought I'd ask here first, though. [[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 18:44, 24 March 2010 (UTC)meeko
:*I have uploaded the image for two reasons. First, we have the historical context. This is THE message that blew-up Chris's cover as a decent bloke and ended the 8 hours Wallflower Saga. Then, it also proves us our prominence as the source of everything CWC-related. Wallflower wasn't pointed to ED but to us. This says something by itself. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 19:21, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
:My only thing though, is how do we know that this is how Wallflower found out? Chris has said Tito did it (after saying Clyde did it, of course), but Tito hasn't revealed how he did it. My problem is that all we have to go on is the claims of 'ThyEnvysGreed'. Also, Chris hasn't specified how Wallflower found out, nor has the lady herself. We don't really have any proof of it, is all. [[User:Meeko|Meeko]] 13:15, 25 March 2010 (UTC)meeko
::*No, we don't have a point-by-point list about how Wallflower found out Chris's faggotery. This is something she might explain to us if she so chose. This being said, the screen shot proves us that someone hinted the lady towards the CWCki. For me, this is close enough. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 13:50, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

== Friend Zone ==

"He has no truck with the notion of "just friends." The Wallflower may have felt otherwise, which could explain Chris's angry remarks on the subject of the "friend zone" in the 15 January 2010 edition of the Mailbag."

I'm not sure about this section staying in. Chris has been angry at the Friend Zone as early as [[Mailbag 4]] which was way back in November.[[User:Wise dude321|Wise dude321]] 05:08, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

==Can we change the name?==
Since Chris has (once again) dropped The Wallflower's full name, can we change the name of the page? I know that we're only to upload information as it pertains to Chris but since he put it up on the Cwcipedia does that make it legit to put her name up here now? --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 02:29, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:She asked us not to.
:So no. We shouldn't. Ever.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 02:32, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:*Chris is retarded. We are not retarded. Lemme rephrase that; just because Chris does it, that doesn't make it okay for us to do it. We are better than him, rememeber? Plus, as the almighty Beat already said, she specifically asked us to take down the info and we are not ED. If she changes her mind, the info can go back up, but not before then no matter HOW many times Chris says: I DO NOT WANT ANYONE MENTIONING <her full name> ONLINE EVER! -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 03:18, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
::*Shit, I'm almighty now? When did this happen?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:00, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:::*Face it Beat, you are awesome. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 04:03, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:::*April 11th, 2:31am GMT. Just FYI. -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 04:27, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

:*To reiterate, the reason the page was changed was because Wallflower's personal safety was threatened by this page - not that we were hurting her directly, just that people were posting doxs and stuff and were starting to harass her (in other words, this is why we can't have nice things). The fact she's a fanfic author, not that attractive by conventional Western standards of beauty, and her information is easily available online makes her a target for your average Internet troll.

::I'm not a big fan of censorship. I find it abhorrent. I am someone who believes information should be free and whatnot. However, Wallflower did make a request and it's always been the case where if someone felt that their privacy was threatened, we would accommodate to their request (i.e. "plz don't sue"). Unlike Wikipedia, what we're doing isn't exactly kosher to begin with (i.e. an entire wiki to document the misadventures of an autistic shell of a man for purposes of internet trolling as opposed to a free and open source of information)

::My solution would be as such - instances where Chris mentions her real name are mentioned, but not linked to her. We keep this article and perhaps mention these instances where the name is mentioned.

::CWCki should serve as a portal for uncensored and unadulterated access to Chris and his mind. Otherwise, a wiki cannot truly function. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:08, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

:::*Brilliant. Champ says it better than I ever could. Mind if I quote this post any time people keep bringing up this issue? -[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 09:54, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

So quick question, what if Chris (in all his fucktardary) was stupid enough to tell info about her on the internet (like where she lives, her phone number, and other personal info and pictures) would that mean that we would have to record it? He did it with Megan and other people in his life, how do you know he's going to do it with the wallflower? --[[User:Yoshi2021|Yoshi2021]] 11:23, 19 April 2010 (UTC)