Affair with Mother - Revision history

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Post-Jail

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	{{quote\|[Jesus] does love me. I am not a horrible monster. What I did - well, what you're saying I did - never happened [[Coping\|in this timeline]]. It never happened, never happened.\|Chris in a [[December 2023]] livestream<ref>[[Fan Mail and Cwcville Autobots Part 2]]</ref>}}		{{quote\|[Jesus] does love me. I am not a horrible monster. What I did - well, what you're saying I did - never happened [[Coping\|in this timeline]]. It never happened, never happened.\|Chris in a [[December 2023]] livestream<ref>[[Fan Mail and Cwcville Autobots Part 2]]</ref>}}
			{{quote\|Evidence can be fabricated, as you are aware. [...] Anyway, the point, during my time with, uh, Bella, there was a bit of roleplaying going on. [...] Cuz she was a bit messed up in the head like that. [...] that detail, it was fabricated by her...\|Chris, [[May 2025]]<ref>[[Walt's call with cwc! 5/17/25]]</ref>}}
	[[File:Shattered_Glass_Christ_Chan_Sonichu.jpg\|thumb\| Shattered Glass Christ Chan Sonichu]]		[[File:Shattered_Glass_Christ_Chan_Sonichu.jpg\|thumb\| Shattered Glass Christ Chan Sonichu]]
	Chris's comments on the affair after his return are convoluted and involve memory transfer and alternate [[dimensions]]. In Chris's livestreams he claims that he did not have sex with Barb but accessed memories from [[Dimensions#Shattered_Glass_Dimension\|the Shattered Glass Dimension]] where his self-counterpart did have sex with Barb, implying he remembers having sex with Barb. He also claims that he knew that Bella would betray him, and played along with her so that he could be sent to jail in Virginia rather than Washington and so he could avoid meeting Sockness at [[Everfree Northwest]].<ref>[[November_2023_livestreams#Simple_Existential_Q&A\|10 November livestream]]</ref><ref>[[December_2023_livestreams#Over_the_shoulder_colouring_stream\|22 December livestream]]</ref> In prerecorded videos like [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021]] and [[The Chris Chan Interview]] he does not mention the Shattered Glass Dimension and mainly talks about Bella and claims that he was proven innocent in a court of law.		Chris's comments on the affair after his return are convoluted and involve memory transfer and alternate [[dimensions]]. In Chris's livestreams he claims that he did not have sex with Barb but accessed memories from [[Dimensions#Shattered_Glass_Dimension\|the Shattered Glass Dimension]] where his self-counterpart did have sex with Barb, implying he remembers having sex with Barb. He also claims that he knew that Bella would betray him, and played along with her so that he could be sent to jail in Virginia rather than Washington and so he could avoid meeting Sockness at [[Everfree Northwest]].<ref>[[November_2023_livestreams#Simple_Existential_Q&A\|10 November livestream]]</ref><ref>[[December_2023_livestreams#Over_the_shoulder_colouring_stream\|22 December livestream]]</ref> In prerecorded videos like [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021]] and [[The Chris Chan Interview]] he does not mention the Shattered Glass Dimension and mainly talks about Bella and claims that he was proven innocent in a court of law.

WarnerBro: /* Rationalizations */

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	*'''Divine approval''' - Chris claimed in the [[Incest Call]] that God told him the incest was okay.		*'''Divine approval''' - Chris claimed in the [[Incest Call]] that God told him the incest was okay.

	*'''Soul-Bonding and Healing''' - In a jail letter that [[~~Emanuelle~~\|Emanuel]] told him to have sex with Barb in order to "heal" her and "cleanse her of her sins".<ref name=letter/> In a later letter, Chris mentions that "Soul Bonding does not necessarily constitute sex" which implies that it ''can'' be.<ref>[[Jail_Letter - 16_November_2021]]</ref> He described soul-bonding as "the Bonding and Union of Auras (Energy Fields) between at least two individuals."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 June 2022]]</ref> Chris invented the narrative that if he didn't engage in this "healing" then Barbara would have died or been more heavily injured by her [[November 2021]] car accident, completely ignoring the fact that if Chris had not engaged in it, chances are Barb wouldn't have been in a car accident at all, since she wouldn't have been forced to drive on her own due to her son's absence.<ref>[[Jail_Letter - 11 January 2022]]</ref>		*'''Soul-Bonding and Healing''' - In a jail letter that [[Emmanuelle\|Emanuel]] told him to have sex with Barb in order to "heal" her and "cleanse her of her sins".<ref name=letter/> In a later letter, Chris mentions that "Soul Bonding does not necessarily constitute sex" which implies that it ''can'' be.<ref>[[Jail_Letter - 16_November_2021]]</ref> He described soul-bonding as "the Bonding and Union of Auras (Energy Fields) between at least two individuals."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 June 2022]]</ref> Chris invented the narrative that if he didn't engage in this "healing" then Barbara would have died or been more heavily injured by her [[November 2021]] car accident, completely ignoring the fact that if Chris had not engaged in it, chances are Barb wouldn't have been in a car accident at all, since she wouldn't have been forced to drive on her own due to her son's absence.<ref>[[Jail_Letter - 11 January 2022]]</ref>

	*'''Defense measure against Sockness''' - Chris claimed that "my having had sex is also a defense mechanism in regards to [[Sockness]] and what he had/may have in mind with me and being near me," referring to Sockness's history of scheming to have sex with Chris, and that Chris planned to use the fact of his affair as a "truth bomb" to deter Sockness.<ref name=soulbonding>[[Bella chats#Soul Bonding]]</ref>		*'''Defense measure against Sockness''' - Chris claimed that "my having had sex is also a defense mechanism in regards to [[Sockness]] and what he had/may have in mind with me and being near me," referring to Sockness's history of scheming to have sex with Chris, and that Chris planned to use the fact of his affair as a "truth bomb" to deter Sockness.<ref name=soulbonding>[[Bella chats#Soul Bonding]]</ref>

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	*'''Divine approval''' - Chris claimed in the [[Incest Call]] that God told him the incest was okay.		*'''Divine approval''' - Chris claimed in the [[Incest Call]] that God told him the incest was okay.

	*'''Soul-Bonding and Healing''' - In a jail letter that [[Emanuel]] told him to have sex with Barb in order to "heal" her and "cleanse her of her sins".<ref name=letter/> In a later letter, Chris mentions that "Soul Bonding does not necessarily constitute sex" which implies that it ''can'' be.<ref>[[Jail_Letter - 16_November_2021]]</ref> He described soul-bonding as "the Bonding and Union of Auras (Energy Fields) between at least two individuals."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 June 2022]]</ref> Chris invented the narrative that if he didn't engage in this "healing" then Barbara would have died or been more heavily injured by her [[November 2021]] car accident, completely ignoring the fact that if Chris had not engaged in it, chances are Barb wouldn't have been in a car accident at all, since she wouldn't have been forced to drive on her own due to her son's absence.<ref>[[Jail_Letter - 11 January 2022]]</ref>		*'''Soul-Bonding and Healing''' - In a jail letter that [[Emanuelle\|Emanuel]] told him to have sex with Barb in order to "heal" her and "cleanse her of her sins".<ref name=letter/> In a later letter, Chris mentions that "Soul Bonding does not necessarily constitute sex" which implies that it ''can'' be.<ref>[[Jail_Letter - 16_November_2021]]</ref> He described soul-bonding as "the Bonding and Union of Auras (Energy Fields) between at least two individuals."<ref>[[Jail Letter - 4 June 2022]]</ref> Chris invented the narrative that if he didn't engage in this "healing" then Barbara would have died or been more heavily injured by her [[November 2021]] car accident, completely ignoring the fact that if Chris had not engaged in it, chances are Barb wouldn't have been in a car accident at all, since she wouldn't have been forced to drive on her own due to her son's absence.<ref>[[Jail_Letter - 11 January 2022]]</ref>

	*'''Defense measure against Sockness''' - Chris claimed that "my having had sex is also a defense mechanism in regards to [[Sockness]] and what he had/may have in mind with me and being near me," referring to Sockness's history of scheming to have sex with Chris, and that Chris planned to use the fact of his affair as a "truth bomb" to deter Sockness.<ref name=soulbonding>[[Bella chats#Soul Bonding]]</ref>		*'''Defense measure against Sockness''' - Chris claimed that "my having had sex is also a defense mechanism in regards to [[Sockness]] and what he had/may have in mind with me and being near me," referring to Sockness's history of scheming to have sex with Chris, and that Chris planned to use the fact of his affair as a "truth bomb" to deter Sockness.<ref name=soulbonding>[[Bella chats#Soul Bonding]]</ref>

WarnerBro: /* Was it consensual? */

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Was it consensual?

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	Barbara's behavior contradicts with nonconsensuality. She made no known attempt to contact help in the month between the incest beginning in June and the leak of the incest in July. Chris was not at home at all times. In July, he had gone out to multiple retail stores to read ''[[Warhol / Chris Chan]]'', do grocery shopping, as well as seethe at toy displays of [[G5\|''My Little Pony'' G5]].<ref>[[The Knights of CWC chats (July 2021)#Triggered by MLP G5 Toys]]</ref>		Barbara's behavior contradicts with nonconsensuality. She made no known attempt to contact help in the month between the incest beginning in June and the leak of the incest in July. Chris was not at home at all times. In July, he had gone out to multiple retail stores to read ''[[Warhol / Chris Chan]]'', do grocery shopping, as well as seethe at toy displays of [[G5\|''My Little Pony'' G5]].<ref>[[The Knights of CWC chats (July 2021)#Triggered by MLP G5 Toys]]</ref>

	Barbara also made no known attempt to keep Chris away after his [[2023]] jail release and relocation to [[Big Island, VA]], allowing him to use her home address as a mailing address.<ref>[[November 2024 social media posts#Lynchburg P.O. box closed]]</ref> She and Chris were also seen together at a notary service in [[February 2024]].<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#Notary with Barb]]</ref> According to Chris in 2024, he visits Barbara once a month.<ref>[[The Chris Chan Conspiracy#Interview comments]]</ref> and a year later he claimed that the two also keep in contact by phone.<ref>[[Walt's call with cwc! 2/17/25]]</ref>		Barbara also made no known attempt to keep Chris away after his [[2023]] jail release and relocation to [[Big Island, VA]], allowing him to use her home address as a mailing address.<ref>[[November 2024 social media posts#Lynchburg P.O. box closed]]</ref> She and Chris were also seen together at a notary service in [[February 2024]].<ref>[[Sightings (2024)#Notary with Barb]]</ref> According to Chris in 2024, he visits Barbara once a month,<ref>[[The Chris Chan Conspiracy#Interview comments]]</ref> and a year later he claimed that the two also keep in contact by phone.<ref>[[Walt's call with cwc! 2/17/25]]</ref>

	Barbara and Chris were notorious for being inappropriately close long before physical incest. According to unleaked chats from Chris to some trolls in the years before, Barbara and Chris had a habit of cuddling together and allegedly even temporarily slept in the same bed after Chris lost his after the [[2014 house fire]]<ref>[[Barbara Chandler#Intimate behavior]]</ref> (Chris later publicly claimed he and Barbara had never shared a bed, only the same bedroom, though highlighted the months between [[2011]] and [[2012]] rather than the time of the house fire).<ref>[[June 2021 social media posts#CPU stuff and Barb]]</ref> Their habit of being physically affectionate was allegedly active while [[Bob Chandler]] was alive, who was bothered by it.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Marvin)#Barb and Chris]]</ref> Chris claimed in [[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022]] that when he went to [[Mia Hamm\|a prostitute]] for sex in 2012, he then told Barbara about it and that she replied that "I would have had sex with you myself, Christian."		Barbara and Chris were notorious for being inappropriately close long before physical incest. According to unleaked chats from Chris to some trolls in the years before, Barbara and Chris had a habit of cuddling together and allegedly even temporarily slept in the same bed after Chris lost his after the [[2014 house fire]]<ref>[[Barbara Chandler#Intimate behavior]]</ref> (Chris later publicly claimed he and Barbara had never shared a bed, only the same bedroom, though highlighted the months between [[2011]] and [[2012]] rather than the time of the house fire).<ref>[[June 2021 social media posts#CPU stuff and Barb]]</ref> Their habit of being physically affectionate was allegedly active while [[Bob Chandler]] was alive, who was bothered by it.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Marvin)#Barb and Chris]]</ref> Chris claimed in [[Jail Letter - 11 May 2022]] that when he went to [[Mia Hamm\|a prostitute]] for sex in 2012, he then told Barbara about it and that she replied that "I would have had sex with you myself, Christian."

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Was it consensual?

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	The total evidence the court has access to is not known. At minimum, the court acted upon the leaked [[Incest Call]] and [[Incest Texts]] which are told from Chris's perspective,<ref>[[Emergency Protective Order]]</ref> which could potentially have lead to the disparity of legal treatments between Chris and Barbara.		The total evidence the court has access to is not known. At minimum, the court acted upon the leaked [[Incest Call]] and [[Incest Texts]] which are told from Chris's perspective,<ref>[[Emergency Protective Order]]</ref> which could potentially have lead to the disparity of legal treatments between Chris and Barbara.

	No known statements by Barbara on her side of the story have ever been made public. According to comments by Chris to three trusted online acquaintances, the incest was consensual with Barbara making the first move.<ref name=call></ref><ref name=wctask></ref><ref>[[Null DMs#Incest questioning]]</ref> However, it should be noted that Chris is an unreliable narrator with histories of both [[~~Lies~~\|lying to make himself look better]] and misinterpreting other people due to his [[autism]].		No known statements by Barbara on her side of the story have ever been made public. According to comments by Chris to three trusted online acquaintances, the incest was consensual with Barbara making the first move.<ref name=call></ref><ref name=wctask></ref><ref>[[Null DMs#Incest questioning]]</ref> However, it should be noted that Chris is an unreliable narrator with histories of both [[List of Chris's lies\|lying to make himself look better]] and misinterpreting other people due to his [[autism]].

	Chris's claims are also contradictory. After one claim that Barbara had initiated, he was asked how, and he immediately answered that he could not recall.<ref name=call></ref> He was then asked how he had approached Barbara and he admitted she was "partially confused at one point," though added that she came around the more he approached her.<ref name=call></ref> Notably, Chris's hormones had been surging in the months prior to the incest beginning in June. In [[February 2021]], he had been posting in [[The Place]] about wanting a relationship and hitting on multiple women online,<ref name=lonely></ref> and he also began discussing his masturbation habits, the latter repeating in March and May of that year.<ref>[[The Place chats - Masturbation discussions]]</ref> Indeed, by July when Chris first began bragging about incest during the Incest Call, he was asked how it had happened, and he answered, "mainly I'm just, really, really horny and I needed a true and honest, uh, relationship to come about".<ref name=call></ref>		Chris's claims are also contradictory. After one claim that Barbara had initiated, he was asked how, and he immediately answered that he could not recall.<ref name=call></ref> He was then asked how he had approached Barbara and he admitted she was "partially confused at one point," though added that she came around the more he approached her.<ref name=call></ref> Notably, Chris's hormones had been surging in the months prior to the incest beginning in June. In [[February 2021]], he had been posting in [[The Place]] about wanting a relationship and hitting on multiple women online,<ref name=lonely></ref> and he also began discussing his masturbation habits, the latter repeating in March and May of that year.<ref>[[The Place chats - Masturbation discussions]]</ref> Indeed, by July when Chris first began bragging about incest during the Incest Call, he was asked how it had happened, and he answered, "mainly I'm just, really, really horny and I needed a true and honest, uh, relationship to come about".<ref name=call></ref>

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	[[File:CWCTablet25Jul2021.jpg\|thumb\|"Top 10 Hottest Anime Moms Ever", a video Chris watched on 25 July 2021, days before he bragged about incestuous acts on his mother.<ref>Date can be seen in [[:File:SuitressTablet.jpg]]</ref>]]		[[File:CWCTablet25Jul2021.jpg\|thumb\|"Top 10 Hottest Anime Moms Ever", a video Chris watched on 25 July 2021, days before he bragged about incestuous acts on his mother.<ref>Date can be seen in [[:File:SuitressTablet.jpg]]</ref>]]

	As early as [[October 2015]], [[Marvin]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement for the [[pepper spray]] incident, Chris and his mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion.<ref>[[26 December 2014#15 October Hearing]]</ref> In [[2018]], while Chris was hanging out with [[Lukas, Devil and Eva]], he told them he had humped a body pillow in front of his mother while pretending the pillow was her. Chris characterized it as a form of expressing his [[anger]] at her for losing [[The Classic]].<ref>[[Teen Troon Squad chats#Chris beat up, humped body pillow in effigy of Barb after she lost The Classic]]</ref> Lukas later claimed that Chris allegedly told them he wanted to have sex with his mother, though it is unclear if Lukas was referencing the body pillow chat.<ref>https://archive.fo/3OLtp</ref> And as recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as [[Magi-Chan]], referred to his mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Furthermore, in August 2016, Chris admitted to having [[Dreams#Mother_dreams\|dreams of having sex with his mother]] in a Facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother".<ref name=dream></ref> Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwi Farms that following the [[2014 house fire]], Chris and his mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating, "I am not a '[[wikipedia:Norman Bates\|Bates]]'. OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>		As early as [[October 2015]], [[Marvin]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement for the [[pepper spray]] incident, Chris and his mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion.<ref>[[26 December 2014#15 October Hearing]]</ref> In [[2018]], while Chris was hanging out with [[Lukas, Devil and Eva]], he told them he had humped a body pillow in front of his mother while pretending the pillow was her. Chris characterized it as a form of expressing his [[Chris and anger\|anger]] at her for losing [[The Classic]].<ref>[[Teen Troon Squad chats#Chris beat up, humped body pillow in effigy of Barb after she lost The Classic]]</ref> Lukas later claimed that Chris allegedly told them he wanted to have sex with his mother, though it is unclear if Lukas was referencing the body pillow chat.<ref>https://archive.fo/3OLtp</ref> And as recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as [[Magi-Chan]], referred to his mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Furthermore, in August 2016, Chris admitted to having [[Dreams#Mother_dreams\|dreams of having sex with his mother]] in a Facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother".<ref name=dream></ref> Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwi Farms that following the [[2014 house fire]], Chris and his mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating, "I am not a '[[wikipedia:Norman Bates\|Bates]]'. OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>

	According to both [[Bella]] and [[MKRNightVee]], Chris brought up the dreams of sex with his mother again to them in private conversations. In a 19 [[July 2021]] conversation with the [[Chess Club]] Discord server, Bella mentioned that Chris, during his phase of [[role-play]]ing as Sonichu, brought up that he had a dream of having sex with his mother, to which Bella replied that it was weird and questioned what it meant, to which an offended Chris asked if she was calling Chris weird.<ref>[[Chess Club Chats#Suicide Plan Claims]]</ref> On 30 [[July 2021]], MKR commented about the leak of the incest news and mentioned that Chris had told her about sexual dreams with his mother and that MKR dismissed it as one of Chris's many crazy dreams.<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1421182090586988549 (archive: https://archive.ph/Scjbk)</ref>		According to both [[Bella]] and [[MKRNightVee]], Chris brought up the dreams of sex with his mother again to them in private conversations. In a 19 [[July 2021]] conversation with the [[Chess Club]] Discord server, Bella mentioned that Chris, during his phase of [[role-play]]ing as Sonichu, brought up that he had a dream of having sex with his mother, to which Bella replied that it was weird and questioned what it meant, to which an offended Chris asked if she was calling Chris weird.<ref>[[Chess Club Chats#Suicide Plan Claims]]</ref> On 30 [[July 2021]], MKR commented about the leak of the incest news and mentioned that Chris had told her about sexual dreams with his mother and that MKR dismissed it as one of Chris's many crazy dreams.<ref>https://twitter.com/MKR11217089/status/1421182090586988549 (archive: https://archive.ph/Scjbk)</ref>

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	{{quote\|You're supposed to say: "Turn me loose, you silly goose!" '''...You used to do that more flirtingly.'''\|Chris while forcefully embracing [[Barbara Chandler\|his mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys\|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}		{{quote\|You're supposed to say: "Turn me loose, you silly goose!" '''...You used to do that more flirtingly.'''\|Chris while forcefully embracing [[Barbara Chandler\|his mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys\|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}
	[[File:SoulBonding.jpg\|thumb\|An artist's interpretation of the act. ([[For Julie's Eyes Only\|We can only imagine that Chris shouted "BARBAAAY!" at least once when this happened.]])]]		[[File:SoulBonding.jpg\|thumb\|An artist's interpretation of the act. ([[For Julie's Eyes Only\|We can only imagine that Chris shouted "BARBAAAY!" at least once when this happened.]])]]
	For years, trolls joked that [[Christian Weston Chandler\|Chris]], in his desperation to find a [[boyfriend-free girl]], would eventually turn to [[Barbara\|his mom]] based on his occasional off‐putting comments about her and their constant proximity to one another. Few thought he would ever go through with the act, though — but Chris found a way to surprise and horrify everybody.		For years, trolls joked that [[Christian Weston Chandler\|Chris]], in his desperation to find a [[boyfriend-free girl]], would eventually turn to [[Barbara Chandler\|his mom]] based on his occasional off‐putting comments about her and their constant proximity to one another. Few thought he would ever go through with the act, though — but Chris found a way to surprise and horrify everybody.

	Chris and Barb's '''incestuous affair''' most likely began on 27 [[June 2021]],<ref name=call>[[Incest Call]]</ref><ref name=wct/> but [[June 2021 social media posts\|his social media presence]] earlier in the month may hint at an earlier start to the affair. As early as 22 June, he began addressing Barbara by the unsettling pet name of "Barbie Chan", which may have indicated when he began to get intimate with her. After this date, Chris claimed that he had sex with her once every three nights until being forcibly stopped by being removed from the house.		Chris and Barb's '''incestuous affair''' most likely began on 27 [[June 2021]],<ref name=call>[[Incest Call]]</ref><ref name=wct/> but [[June 2021 social media posts\|his social media presence]] earlier in the month may hint at an earlier start to the affair. As early as 22 June, he began addressing Barbara by the unsettling pet name of "Barbie Chan", which may have indicated when he began to get intimate with her. After this date, Chris claimed that he had sex with her once every three nights until being forcibly stopped by being removed from the house.

	On 27 July 2021, during a call with [[Isabella Loretta Janke\|Isabella "Bella" Loretta Janke]], [[Honest Content\|Chris revealed the details of his sexual activities with his mother of his own volition]],<ref name=wctask>[[WCT DMs#Asking about Incest Call leak]]</ref> also discussing it in text messages later that day. In those, Chris discussed stimulating his elderly mother with his hands, performing cunnilingus on her, and having penetrative sex with her.<ref name=deviant>[[Incest Texts]]</ref> He claimed that Barbara compared him favorably to her previous sexual partners, including Chris's father [[Bob]], who had been unable to provide her with an orgasm or stimulate her {{w\|G-spot}}.		On 27 July 2021, during a call with [[Isabella Loretta Janke\|Isabella "Bella" Loretta Janke]], [[Honest Content\|Chris revealed the details of his sexual activities with his mother of his own volition]],<ref name=wctask>[[WCT DMs#Asking about Incest Call leak]]</ref> also discussing it in text messages later that day. In those, Chris discussed stimulating his elderly mother with his hands, performing cunnilingus on her, and having penetrative sex with her.<ref name=deviant>[[Incest Texts]]</ref> He claimed that Barbara compared him favorably to her previous sexual partners, including Chris's late father [[Bob Chandler\|Bob]], who had been unable to provide her with an orgasm or stimulate her {{w\|G-spot}}.

	Files were leaked to the public the following night,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/oudn5m/chris_chan_admits_to_having_sex_with_his_mother/</ref> and social workers removed Chris from Barbara on the morning of 30 July. In early August 2021, Chris was [[Jail Saga\|arrested, officially charged with one count of incest, and was held without bail]].		Files were leaked to the public the following night,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/oudn5m/chris_chan_admits_to_having_sex_with_his_mother/</ref> and social workers removed Chris from Barbara on the morning of 30 July. In early August 2021, Chris was [[Jail Saga\|arrested, officially charged with one count of incest, and was held without bail]].

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	Chris was swiftly removed from his home by an [[Emergency Protective Order]] and then arrested days later. In the wake of his charge, Chris was [[banned]] from [[Patreon]] and [[Tapas]]. [[Carpetbaggers]] who had once worked with him withdrew, such as ''[[The Binding of Isaac]]'' card game creator [[Edmund McMillen]] canceling a card he had requested Chris contribute, the band who released [[Love is Love (song)\|Love is Love]] pulling it from sale, and [[Null]] offering refunds for [[Kiwi Farms silver coin\|silver coins]] featuring Chris's likeness and stating he would never again sell items with direct reference to Chris. In McMillen's case, he later resumed collaboration with Chris on ''[[Mewgenics]]'' years later.		Chris was swiftly removed from his home by an [[Emergency Protective Order]] and then arrested days later. In the wake of his charge, Chris was [[banned]] from [[Patreon]] and [[Tapas]]. [[Carpetbaggers]] who had once worked with him withdrew, such as ''[[The Binding of Isaac]]'' card game creator [[Edmund McMillen]] canceling a card he had requested Chris contribute, the band who released [[Love is Love (song)\|Love is Love]] pulling it from sale, and [[Null]] offering refunds for [[Kiwi Farms silver coin\|silver coins]] featuring Chris's likeness and stating he would never again sell items with direct reference to Chris. In McMillen's case, he later resumed collaboration with Chris on ''[[Mewgenics]]'' years later.

	Chris spent over a year and a half in custody while awaiting legal proceedings, mainly at [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]] and, for a shorter time, [[Western State Hospital]]. In [[August 2022]], Chris's lawyer [[David Heilberg]] filed for [[autism disorder deferred disposition]], the result of which ~~lead~~ to Chris's release from jail in [[March 2023]] and the incest charge dropped in [[August 2023\|August]].		Chris spent over a year and a half in custody while awaiting legal proceedings, mainly at [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]] and, for a shorter time, [[Western State Hospital]]. In [[August 2022]], Chris's lawyer [[David Heilberg]] filed for [[autism disorder deferred disposition]], the result of which led to Chris's release from jail in [[March 2023]] and the incest charge dropped in [[August 2023\|August]].

	===Chris and Barbara's relationship===		===Chris and Barbara's relationship===

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	Chris was swiftly removed from his home by an [[Emergency Protective Order]] and then arrested days later. In the wake of his charge, Chris was [[banned]] from [[Patreon]] and [[Tapas]]. [[Carpetbaggers]] who had once worked with him withdrew, such as ''[[The Binding of Isaac]]'' card game creator [[Edmund McMillen]] canceling a card he had requested Chris contribute, the band who released [[Love is Love (song)\|Love is Love]] pulling it from sale, and [[Null]] offering refunds for [[Kiwi Farms silver coin\|silver coins]] featuring Chris's likeness and stating he would never again sell items with direct reference to Chris. In McMillen's case, he later resumed collaboration with Chris on ''[[Mewgenics]]'' years later.		Chris was swiftly removed from his home by an [[Emergency Protective Order]] and then arrested days later. In the wake of his charge, Chris was [[banned]] from [[Patreon]] and [[Tapas]]. [[Carpetbaggers]] who had once worked with him withdrew, such as ''[[The Binding of Isaac]]'' card game creator [[Edmund McMillen]] canceling a card he had requested Chris contribute, the band who released [[Love is Love (song)\|Love is Love]] pulling it from sale, and [[Null]] offering refunds for [[Kiwi Farms silver coin\|silver coins]] featuring Chris's likeness and stating he would never again sell items with direct reference to Chris. In McMillen's case, he later resumed collaboration with Chris on ''[[Mewgenics]]'' years later.

	Chris spent over a year and a half in custody while awaiting legal proceedings, mainly at [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]] and, for a shorter time, [[Western State Hospital]]. In [[August 2022], Chris's lawyer [[David Heilberg]] filed for [[autism disorder deferred disposition]], the result of which lead to Chris's release from jail in [[March 2023]] and the incest charge dropped in [[August 2023\|August]].		Chris spent over a year and a half in custody while awaiting legal proceedings, mainly at [[Central Virginia Regional Jail]] and, for a shorter time, [[Western State Hospital]]. In [[August 2022]], Chris's lawyer [[David Heilberg]] filed for [[autism disorder deferred disposition]], the result of which lead to Chris's release from jail in [[March 2023]] and the incest charge dropped in [[August 2023\|August]].

	===Chris and Barbara's relationship===		===Chris and Barbara's relationship===

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	{{quote\|[Jesus] does love me. I am not a horrible monster. What I did - well, what you're saying I did - never happened [[Coping\|in this timeline]]. It never happened, never happened.\|Chris in a [[December 2023]] livestream<ref>[[Fan Mail and Cwcville Autobots Part 2]]</ref>}}		{{quote\|[Jesus] does love me. I am not a horrible monster. What I did - well, what you're saying I did - never happened [[Coping\|in this timeline]]. It never happened, never happened.\|Chris in a [[December 2023]] livestream<ref>[[Fan Mail and Cwcville Autobots Part 2]]</ref>}}
			{{quote\|Evidence can be fabricated, as you are aware. [...] Anyway, the point, during my time with, uh, Bella, there was a bit of roleplaying going on. [...] Cuz she was a bit messed up in the head like that. [...] that detail, it was fabricated by her...\|Chris, [[May 2025]]<ref>[[Walt's call with cwc! 5/17/25]]</ref>}}
	[[File:Shattered_Glass_Christ_Chan_Sonichu.jpg\|thumb\| Shattered Glass Christ Chan Sonichu]]		[[File:Shattered_Glass_Christ_Chan_Sonichu.jpg\|thumb\| Shattered Glass Christ Chan Sonichu]]
	Chris's comments on the affair after his return are convoluted and involve memory transfer and alternate [[dimensions]]. In Chris's livestreams he claims that he did not have sex with Barb but accessed memories from [[Dimensions#Shattered_Glass_Dimension\|the Shattered Glass Dimension]] where his self-counterpart did have sex with Barb, implying he remembers having sex with Barb. He also claims that he knew that Bella would betray him, and played along with her so that he could be sent to jail in Virginia rather than Washington and so he could avoid meeting Sockness at [[Everfree Northwest]].<ref>[[November_2023_livestreams#Simple_Existential_Q&A\|10 November livestream]]</ref><ref>[[December_2023_livestreams#Over_the_shoulder_colouring_stream\|22 December livestream]]</ref> In prerecorded videos like [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021]] and [[The Chris Chan Interview]] he does not mention the Shattered Glass Dimension and mainly talks about Bella and claims that he was proven innocent in a court of law.		Chris's comments on the affair after his return are convoluted and involve memory transfer and alternate [[dimensions]]. In Chris's livestreams he claims that he did not have sex with Barb but accessed memories from [[Dimensions#Shattered_Glass_Dimension\|the Shattered Glass Dimension]] where his self-counterpart did have sex with Barb, implying he remembers having sex with Barb. He also claims that he knew that Bella would betray him, and played along with her so that he could be sent to jail in Virginia rather than Washington and so he could avoid meeting Sockness at [[Everfree Northwest]].<ref>[[November_2023_livestreams#Simple_Existential_Q&A\|10 November livestream]]</ref><ref>[[December_2023_livestreams#Over_the_shoulder_colouring_stream\|22 December livestream]]</ref> In prerecorded videos like [[Setting the Record straight - there never was any sex involving me in 2021]] and [[The Chris Chan Interview]] he does not mention the Shattered Glass Dimension and mainly talks about Bella and claims that he was proven innocent in a court of law.

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	{{quote\|You're supposed to say: "Turn me loose, you silly goose!" '''...You used to do that more flirtingly.'''\|Chris while forcefully embracing [[Barbara Chandler\|his mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys\|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}		{{quote\|You're supposed to say: "Turn me loose, you silly goose!" '''...You used to do that more flirtingly.'''\|Chris while forcefully embracing [[Barbara Chandler\|his mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys\|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}
	[[File:SoulBonding.jpg\|thumb\|An artist's interpretation of the act. ([[For Julie's Eyes Only\|We can only imagine that Chris shouted "BARBAAAY!" at least once when this happened.]])]]		[[File:SoulBonding.jpg\|thumb\|An artist's interpretation of the act. ([[For Julie's Eyes Only\|We can only imagine that Chris shouted "BARBAAAY!" at least once when this happened.]])]]
	For years, trolls joked that [[Christian Weston Chandler\|Chris]], in his desperation to find a [[boyfriend-free girl]], would eventually turn to [[Barbara\|his mom]] based on his occasional off‐putting comments about her and their constant proximity to one another. Few thought he would ever go through with the act, though — but Chris found a way to surprise and horrify everybody.		For years, trolls joked that [[Christian Weston Chandler\|Chris]], in his desperation to find a [[boyfriend-free girl]], would eventually turn to [[Barbara Chandler\|his mom]] based on his occasional off‐putting comments about her and their constant proximity to one another. Few thought he would ever go through with the act, though — but Chris found a way to surprise and horrify everybody.

	Chris and Barb's '''incestuous affair''' most likely began on 27 [[June 2021]],<ref name=call>[[Incest Call]]</ref><ref name=wct/> but [[June 2021 social media posts\|his social media presence]] earlier in the month may hint at an earlier start to the affair. As early as 22 June, he began addressing Barbara by the unsettling pet name of "Barbie Chan", which may have indicated when he began to get intimate with her. After this date, Chris claimed that he had sex with her once every three nights until being forcibly stopped by being removed from the house.		Chris and Barb's '''incestuous affair''' most likely began on 27 [[June 2021]],<ref name=call>[[Incest Call]]</ref><ref name=wct/> but [[June 2021 social media posts\|his social media presence]] earlier in the month may hint at an earlier start to the affair. As early as 22 June, he began addressing Barbara by the unsettling pet name of "Barbie Chan", which may have indicated when he began to get intimate with her. After this date, Chris claimed that he had sex with her once every three nights until being forcibly stopped by being removed from the house.

	On 27 July 2021, during a call with [[Isabella Loretta Janke\|Isabella "Bella" Loretta Janke]], [[Honest Content\|Chris revealed the details of his sexual activities with his mother of his own volition]],<ref name=wctask>[[WCT DMs#Asking about Incest Call leak]]</ref> also discussing it in text messages later that day. In those, Chris discussed stimulating his elderly mother with his hands, performing cunnilingus on her, and having penetrative sex with her.<ref name=deviant>[[Incest Texts]]</ref> He claimed that Barbara compared him favorably to her previous sexual partners, including Chris's father [[Bob]], who had been unable to provide her with an orgasm or stimulate her {{w\|G-spot}}.		On 27 July 2021, during a call with [[Isabella Loretta Janke\|Isabella "Bella" Loretta Janke]], [[Honest Content\|Chris revealed the details of his sexual activities with his mother of his own volition]],<ref name=wctask>[[WCT DMs#Asking about Incest Call leak]]</ref> also discussing it in text messages later that day. In those, Chris discussed stimulating his elderly mother with his hands, performing cunnilingus on her, and having penetrative sex with her.<ref name=deviant>[[Incest Texts]]</ref> He claimed that Barbara compared him favorably to her previous sexual partners, including Chris's late father [[Bob Chandler\|Bob]], who had been unable to provide her with an orgasm or stimulate her {{w\|G-spot}}.

	Files were leaked to the public the following night,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/oudn5m/chris_chan_admits_to_having_sex_with_his_mother/</ref> and social workers removed Chris from Barbara on the morning of 30 July. In early August 2021, Chris was [[Jail Saga\|arrested, officially charged with one count of incest, and was held without bail]].		Files were leaked to the public the following night,<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/oudn5m/chris_chan_admits_to_having_sex_with_his_mother/</ref> and social workers removed Chris from Barbara on the morning of 30 July. In early August 2021, Chris was [[Jail Saga\|arrested, officially charged with one count of incest, and was held without bail]].