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Anonymax: /* Citations */ It's complicated

2010-04-06T17:01:25Z

Citations: It's complicated

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	::*Chicago style, at least, puts them after the period: "A note number should be placed at the end of a sentence or at the end of a clause. The number follows any punctuation mark except for the dash, which it precedes. It follows a closing parenthesis. . . . For a parenthetical phrase within a sentence, it may occasionally be appropriate to place the note number before the closing parenthesis." [[User:Dkaien\|Dkaien]] 16:58, 6 April 2010 (UTC)		::*Chicago style, at least, puts them after the period: "A note number should be placed at the end of a sentence or at the end of a clause. The number follows any punctuation mark except for the dash, which it precedes. It follows a closing parenthesis. . . . For a parenthetical phrase within a sentence, it may occasionally be appropriate to place the note number before the closing parenthesis." [[User:Dkaien\|Dkaien]] 16:58, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
			:::Well, to be honest there is no hard and fast rule for it. Rather than bother to decide upon a fixed standard, the general consensus is that it doesn't matter which style you choose, it just has to be consistent on a per-article basis. However, generally they go after the end of the sentence. There is an exception if you're ending a sentence with a quotation - where the citation should go after the closing quotation mark but before the full stop/period. Really, standard in-line citations look nicer after the period and with a space after too. --[[User:Anonymax\|Anonymax]] 17:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Dkaien: /* Citations */

2010-04-06T16:58:03Z

Citations

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			::*Chicago style, at least, puts them after the period: "A note number should be placed at the end of a sentence or at the end of a clause. The number follows any punctuation mark except for the dash, which it precedes. It follows a closing parenthesis. . . . For a parenthetical phrase within a sentence, it may occasionally be appropriate to place the note number before the closing parenthesis." [[User:Dkaien\|Dkaien]] 16:58, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Champthom: /* Citations */

2010-04-06T16:54:54Z

Citations

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	Someone, look at other academic styles to see if citation marks go before or after the period at the end of a sentence. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 16:39, 6 April 2010 (UTC)		Someone, look at other academic styles to see if citation marks go before or after the period at the end of a sentence. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 16:39, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
	:They go after. --[[User:Anonymax\|Anonymax]] 16:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)		:They go after. --[[User:Anonymax\|Anonymax]] 16:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
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Anonymax: /* Citations */ After

2010-04-06T16:52:04Z

Citations: After

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	Someone, look at other academic styles to see if citation marks go before or after the period at the end of a sentence. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 16:39, 6 April 2010 (UTC)		Someone, look at other academic styles to see if citation marks go before or after the period at the end of a sentence. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 16:39, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
			:They go after. --[[User:Anonymax\|Anonymax]] 16:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Champthom at 16:44, 6 April 2010

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	== Citations ==		== Citations ==

	Someone, look at other academic styles to see if ~~citations (like the following: <ref>this</ref>)~~ go before or after the period at the end of a sentence. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 16:39, 6 April 2010 (UTC)		Someone, look at other academic styles to see if citation marks go before or after the period at the end of a sentence. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 16:39, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Champthom: /* Citations */ new section

2010-04-06T16:39:17Z

Citations: new section

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	*This is really the first Wiki I've ever put any serious effort into, but really, considering the subject, I don't think it's that important which style of English we use. I've been spelling it "Chris's", mostly to avoid any conflict, but I'm reasonably sure either form is correct, so I just picked one and stuck with it. If someone wants to spell it "colour", that's fine by me, as long as no one else objects to me spelling it "color", because I'm probably going to do it that way without thinking about it. As long as we're using <i>some</i> sort of proper English, we should be fine, since it makes CWC's sloppy spelling and grammar stand out more. "Chris'" and "Chris's" should both be accepted, as long as we don't do "Chris;s", or simply "Chris", because that's what Chris does. [[User:Dethchemist77\|Dethchemist77]] 00:55, 18 February 2009 (CET)		*This is really the first Wiki I've ever put any serious effort into, but really, considering the subject, I don't think it's that important which style of English we use. I've been spelling it "Chris's", mostly to avoid any conflict, but I'm reasonably sure either form is correct, so I just picked one and stuck with it. If someone wants to spell it "colour", that's fine by me, as long as no one else objects to me spelling it "color", because I'm probably going to do it that way without thinking about it. As long as we're using <i>some</i> sort of proper English, we should be fine, since it makes CWC's sloppy spelling and grammar stand out more. "Chris'" and "Chris's" should both be accepted, as long as we don't do "Chris;s", or simply "Chris", because that's what Chris does. [[User:Dethchemist77\|Dethchemist77]] 00:55, 18 February 2009 (CET)

			== Citations ==

			Someone, look at other academic styles to see if citations (like the following: <ref>this</ref>) go before or after the period at the end of a sentence. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 16:39, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Clydec: 3 revisions

2010-01-03T08:47:31Z

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VanKrause: /* To resolve */

2009-02-17T23:55:59Z

To resolve

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	* Nah man, English english is da way 2 go. It makes us sound more sophisticated. ^^ And I was also wondering about the Chris's thing. I was first spelling it Chris', and leaving out the second s, but I guess that's just plain wrong. I think most people spell it Chris's here. [[User:RachmaninovDESU\|RachmaninovDESU]] 18:56, 17 February 2009 (CET)		* Nah man, English english is da way 2 go. It makes us sound more sophisticated. ^^ And I was also wondering about the Chris's thing. I was first spelling it Chris', and leaving out the second s, but I guess that's just plain wrong. I think most people spell it Chris's here. [[User:RachmaninovDESU\|RachmaninovDESU]] 18:56, 17 February 2009 (CET)

			*This is really the first Wiki I've ever put any serious effort into, but really, considering the subject, I don't think it's that important which style of English we use. I've been spelling it "Chris's", mostly to avoid any conflict, but I'm reasonably sure either form is correct, so I just picked one and stuck with it. If someone wants to spell it "colour", that's fine by me, as long as no one else objects to me spelling it "color", because I'm probably going to do it that way without thinking about it. As long as we're using <i>some</i> sort of proper English, we should be fine, since it makes CWC's sloppy spelling and grammar stand out more. "Chris'" and "Chris's" should both be accepted, as long as we don't do "Chris;s", or simply "Chris", because that's what Chris does. [[User:Dethchemist77\|Dethchemist77]] 00:55, 18 February 2009 (CET)

VanKrause: /* To resolve */

2009-02-17T17:56:34Z

To resolve

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			* Nah man, English english is da way 2 go. It makes us sound more sophisticated. ^^ And I was also wondering about the Chris's thing. I was first spelling it Chris', and leaving out the second s, but I guess that's just plain wrong. I think most people spell it Chris's here. [[User:RachmaninovDESU\|RachmaninovDESU]] 18:56, 17 February 2009 (CET)

Champthom: New page: ==To resolve== *British English or American English? Personally, I think since a majority of trolls are American and because Chris is American, we should use Americanized spellings. Howeve...

2009-02-17T12:15:03Z

New page: ==To resolve== *British English or American English? Personally, I think since a majority of trolls are American and because Chris is American, we should use Americanized spellings. Howeve...

New page

==To resolve==
*British English or American English? Personally, I think since a majority of trolls are American and because Chris is American, we should use Americanized spellings. However, Wikipedia uses British spellings when possible. I personally find the unnecessary vowels silly but apparently Eurofags love it.

*the possessive of Chris. Strunk & White, the Modern Language Association, and The Economist style guide (at least from a very quick website) say that it's fine to say "Chris's." The Guardian and the Chicago Book of Style disagree and then there's some whole rule about using it with soft s sound versus soft s sound. Can some English major settle this?

*also, tones of articles and that sort of thing.

--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 13:15, 17 February 2009 (CET)

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	::*Chicago style, at least, puts them after the period: "A note number should be placed at the end of a sentence or at the end of a clause. The number follows any punctuation mark except for the dash, which it precedes. It follows a closing parenthesis. . . . For a parenthetical phrase within a sentence, it may occasionally be appropriate to place the note number before the closing parenthesis." [[User:Dkaien\|Dkaien]] 16:58, 6 April 2010 (UTC)		::*Chicago style, at least, puts them after the period: "A note number should be placed at the end of a sentence or at the end of a clause. The number follows any punctuation mark except for the dash, which it precedes. It follows a closing parenthesis. . . . For a parenthetical phrase within a sentence, it may occasionally be appropriate to place the note number before the closing parenthesis." [[User:Dkaien\|Dkaien]] 16:58, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
			:::Well, to be honest there is no hard and fast rule for it. Rather than bother to decide upon a fixed standard, the general consensus is that it doesn't matter which style you choose, it just has to be consistent on a per-article basis. However, generally they go after the end of the sentence. There is an exception if you're ending a sentence with a quotation - where the citation should go after the closing quotation mark but before the full stop/period. Really, standard in-line citations look nicer after the period and with a space after too. --[[User:Anonymax\|Anonymax]] 17:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

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			::*Chicago style, at least, puts them after the period: "A note number should be placed at the end of a sentence or at the end of a clause. The number follows any punctuation mark except for the dash, which it precedes. It follows a closing parenthesis. . . . For a parenthetical phrase within a sentence, it may occasionally be appropriate to place the note number before the closing parenthesis." [[User:Dkaien\|Dkaien]] 16:58, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

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	Someone, look at other academic styles to see if citation marks go before or after the period at the end of a sentence. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 16:39, 6 April 2010 (UTC)		Someone, look at other academic styles to see if citation marks go before or after the period at the end of a sentence. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 16:39, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
	:They go after. --[[User:Anonymax\|Anonymax]] 16:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)		:They go after. --[[User:Anonymax\|Anonymax]] 16:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
			:*Sauce?--[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 16:54, 6 April 2010 (UTC)