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Master: /* Prescriptions for other ailments */

2026-05-02T18:27:26Z

Prescriptions for other ailments

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	For the majority of his life, Chris has had cholesterol problems. To combat this, instead of eating healthier and getting exercise, Chris eats junk food and exercises ''very'' occasionally while taking Lipitor, a cholesterol-lowering drug. While Lipitor and similar drugs can have a positive effect in lowering the cholesterol levels of those taking them, if one doesn't change their lifestyle as well there will be little change in the cholesterol level. Chris, having taken Lipitor since at least [[August 2009]], has had some improvement with his cholesterol levels; he got a score of 140 mg/ml, which, while not low, is not high either. Since Chris is very unfit, it's likely that Lipitor seems to be doing a decent job.		For the majority of his life, Chris has had cholesterol problems. To combat this, instead of eating healthier and getting exercise, Chris eats junk food and exercises ''very'' occasionally while taking Lipitor, a cholesterol-lowering drug. While Lipitor and similar drugs can have a positive effect in lowering the cholesterol levels of those taking them, if one doesn't change their lifestyle as well there will be little change in the cholesterol level. Chris, having taken Lipitor since at least [[August 2009]], has had some improvement with his cholesterol levels; he got a score of 140 mg/ml, which, while not low, is not high either. Since Chris is very unfit, it's likely that Lipitor seems to be doing a decent job.

			According to [[Ivy]], Chris requested a pill to cure his [[DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS\|incontinence]] when his doctor recommended improvements to his diet and regular exercise<ref>[[Ivy Q&A#Threats]]</ref>. While Chris has been on medications before (and at least takes them when prescribed), he appears to have thought medicine is a one-and-done antidote without any further effort on his part required.

	It's worth noting that - as [[Kacey]] and [[Father Call\|her dad]] pointed out - he started taking the drug in his twenties, when it and other statins are really meant for people above age 40, and are only recommended for younger patients when the risk of early cardiovascular disease is that high. Studies differ on whether the effect on myelination or synaptogenesis is relevant for humans at normal doses, or whether these medications impair memory, leave it alone, or possibly improve it.		It's worth noting that - as [[Kacey]] and [[Father Call\|her dad]] pointed out - he started taking the drug in his twenties, when it and other statins are really meant for people above age 40, and are only recommended for younger patients when the risk of early cardiovascular disease is that high. Studies differ on whether the effect on myelination or synaptogenesis is relevant for humans at normal doses, or whether these medications impair memory, leave it alone, or possibly improve it.

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2026-04-17T17:56:28Z

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Hurtful Truth Level: recent failings

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recent failings

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	{{Needs Updating\|[[The Place chats (October 2019)#Healing power]]}}
			{{Needs Updating\|[[February 2026 social media posts#Admitting to random sins to prop up Redemption Arc narrative]]\|[[The Place chats (October 2019)#Healing power]]}}

	{{Protip\|Commentary on possible side effects from any medication or recreational drug (cognitive, sexual, or otherwise) is purely speculative, based on commonly reported, listed, and/or studied side effects. Some side effects may either not happen to you/Chris, or be a small price to pay for better health or behavior. Do not discontinue any medication because of something said on this site.}}		{{Protip\|Commentary on possible side effects from any medication or recreational drug (cognitive, sexual, or otherwise) is purely speculative, based on commonly reported, listed, and/or studied side effects. Some side effects may either not happen to you/Chris, or be a small price to pay for better health or behavior. Do not discontinue any medication because of something said on this site.}}

Hurtful Truth Level: /* Proper HRT */

2026-01-03T11:07:46Z

Proper HRT

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	At some point in Fall 2016, he finally went to a medical professional and was prescribed proper HRT. In his [[CopperCab\|interview with CopperCab]], Chris mentions he takes the testosterone blocker spironolactone, which he nicknames "[[Spyro the Dragon]]", and estradiol to assist in transitioning.		At some point in Fall 2016, he finally went to a medical professional and was prescribed proper HRT. In his [[CopperCab\|interview with CopperCab]], Chris mentions he takes the testosterone blocker spironolactone, which he nicknames "[[Spyro the Dragon]]", and estradiol to assist in transitioning.

	Chris revealed in his [[March 2024]] [[March_2024_livestreams#Christ Chan Live Stream: YouTube Video Watching\|Livestream]] that he has been taking "Estradiol" and "spironolactone" (Aldactone), for "years".<ref>~~https://sonichu.com/cwcki/March_2024_livestreams~~#Highlights</ref>		Chris revealed in his [[March 2024]] [[March_2024_livestreams#Christ Chan Live Stream: YouTube Video Watching\|Livestream]] that he has been taking "Estradiol" and "spironolactone" (Aldactone), for "years".<ref>[[March 2024 livestreams#Highlights]]</ref>

	==Alcohol==		==Alcohol==

Hurtful Truth Level at 11:06, 3 January 2026

2026-01-03T11:06:47Z

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	{{Needs Updating\|[[The Place chats (October 2019)#Healing power~~]]\|[[The Place chats (October 2019)#Supplements]]\|[[The Place chats (September_2020)#Blood Pressure Spikes~~]]}}		{{Needs Updating\|[[The Place chats (October 2019)#Healing power]]}}

	{{Protip\|Commentary on possible side effects from any medication or recreational drug (cognitive, sexual, or otherwise) is purely speculative, based on commonly reported, listed, and/or studied side effects. Some side effects may either not happen to you/Chris, or be a small price to pay for better health or behavior. Do not discontinue any medication because of something said on this site.}}		{{Protip\|Commentary on possible side effects from any medication or recreational drug (cognitive, sexual, or otherwise) is purely speculative, based on commonly reported, listed, and/or studied side effects. Some side effects may either not happen to you/Chris, or be a small price to pay for better health or behavior. Do not discontinue any medication because of something said on this site.}}
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	In [[November 2025]], Chris claimed to have "stopped taking fluoxetine about a year ago".<ref>[[November_2025_social_media_posts#Thought_piece]]</ref> He also blamed his SSRI meds for a lack of focus emotionally and suggested others trash their SSRI meds. He also claimed to have first been prescribed the medication at age 7 for anxiety.<ref>[[November 2025 social media posts#NoToPaxil]]</ref>		In [[November 2025]], Chris claimed to have "stopped taking fluoxetine about a year ago".<ref>[[November_2025_social_media_posts#Thought_piece]]</ref> He also blamed his SSRI meds for a lack of focus emotionally and suggested others trash their SSRI meds. He also claimed to have first been prescribed the medication at age 7 for anxiety.<ref>[[November 2025 social media posts#NoToPaxil]]</ref>

	Chris has also mentioned taking the prescription drug propranolol (Inderal), which is commonly prescribed for high blood pressure, anxiety, and (more controversially) at higher doses to intentionally weaken the memories of people with PTSD. However, Inderal can also improve focus and concentration in some people. It is unknown whether he is still taking it, or why he was prescribed it. <ref>[[~~The_Place_chats_~~(September_2020)]]</ref>		Chris has also mentioned taking the prescription drug propranolol (Inderal), which is commonly prescribed for high blood pressure, anxiety, and (more controversially) at higher doses to intentionally weaken the memories of people with PTSD. However, Inderal can also improve focus and concentration in some people. It is unknown whether he is still taking it, or why he was prescribed it.<ref name=placesept>[[The Place chats (September_2020)#Blood Pressure Spikes]]</ref>

	It is unknown whether Chris is still taking any psych meds at all after stopping Prozac, whether he's still taking the Inderal, or whether at any point he has been prescribed ''antipsychotics.'' Some ~~Kiwi Farmers~~ have suggested he was given antipsychotics, noting the stereotypical motion side effects, sedation, etc., and the fact that Chris mentioned that "too much serotonin" is a problem may hint at Chris taking a ''second-generation antipsychotic'' instead of Fluoxetine (SGA's notably block serotonin receptors. Risperidone blocks one variety of them permanently.) Despite the name, antipsychotics are prescribed for a variety of reasons besides psychosis, with some shrinks controversially using them for autism and mild cases of bipolar disorder.		It is unknown whether Chris is still taking any psych meds at all after stopping Prozac, whether he's still taking the Inderal, or whether at any point he has been prescribed ''antipsychotics.'' Some have suggested he was given antipsychotics, noting the stereotypical motion side effects, sedation, etc., and the fact that Chris mentioned that "too much serotonin" is a problem may hint at Chris taking a ''second-generation antipsychotic'' instead of Fluoxetine (SGA's notably block serotonin receptors. Risperidone blocks one variety of them permanently.) Despite the name, antipsychotics are prescribed for a variety of reasons besides psychosis, with some shrinks controversially using them for autism and mild cases of bipolar disorder.

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	It's worth noting that - as [[Kacey]] and [[Father Call\|her dad]] pointed out - he started taking the drug in his twenties, when it and other statins are really meant for people above age 40, and are only recommended for younger patients when the risk of early cardiovascular disease is that high. Studies differ on whether the effect on myelination or synaptogenesis is relevant for humans at normal doses, or whether these medications impair memory, leave it alone, or possibly improve it.		It's worth noting that - as [[Kacey]] and [[Father Call\|her dad]] pointed out - he started taking the drug in his twenties, when it and other statins are really meant for people above age 40, and are only recommended for younger patients when the risk of early cardiovascular disease is that high. Studies differ on whether the effect on myelination or synaptogenesis is relevant for humans at normal doses, or whether these medications impair memory, leave it alone, or possibly improve it.

	In 2020, Chris brought up using a different statin, Pravastatin. He also is on Omeprazole (Prilosec), which has notable side effects including permanent damage to proton pumps in areas outside of the stomach, including the ones in neurons that generate electricity in the brain!!<ref>~~[[The_Place_chats_(September_2020)]]~~</ref>		In 2020, Chris brought up using a different statin, Pravastatin. He also is on Omeprazole (Prilosec), which has notable side effects including permanent damage to proton pumps in areas outside of the stomach, including the ones in neurons that generate electricity in the brain!!<ref name=placesept></ref>

	Chris also takes a drug to combat blood pressure, likely a blood thinner concerning his fat-high diet. It is known that Chris also takes antibiotics for UTIs.		Chris also takes a drug to combat blood pressure, likely a blood thinner concerning his fat-high diet. It is known that Chris also takes antibiotics for UTIs.

Hurtful Truth Level: /* Psychiatric medication */

2026-01-03T11:03:32Z

Psychiatric medication

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	Another of Paxil's more notable side effects is the potential for [[Obesity\|substantial weight gain]], which couldn't have mixed well with Chris's [[McDonald's\|diet]] and [[biological clock\|sedentary lifestyle]].		Another of Paxil's more notable side effects is the potential for [[Obesity\|substantial weight gain]], which couldn't have mixed well with Chris's [[McDonald's\|diet]] and [[biological clock\|sedentary lifestyle]].

	At some point in the late 2010s, Chris stopped Paroxetine and started Fluoxetine (Prozac), which has weaker anticholinergic effects, considered insignificant. Still, PSSD (post-SSRI sexual dysfunction) is a relatively common side effect, as is impaired judgement and cognitive impairment in some patients. (Brain fog isn't universal on these meds, though.) Chris brought up his new meds role-playing as Magi-Chan, speaking in the third person, while also saying that Barb suggested the switch.<ref>[[~~Official CWCki Server Chats~~]]</ref>		At some point in the late 2010s, Chris stopped Paroxetine and started Fluoxetine (Prozac), which has weaker anticholinergic effects, considered insignificant. Still, PSSD (post-SSRI sexual dysfunction) is a relatively common side effect, as is impaired judgement and cognitive impairment in some patients. (Brain fog isn't universal on these meds, though.) Chris brought up his new meds role-playing as Magi-Chan, speaking in the third person, while also saying that Barb suggested the switch.<ref>[[The Place chats - Jacob Sockness#Defending Sockness, stress, and CALM supplements]]</ref>

	In [[November 2025]], Chris claimed to have "stopped taking fluoxetine about a year ago".<ref>[[November_2025_social_media_posts#Thought_piece]]</ref> He also blamed his SSRI meds for a lack of focus emotionally and suggested others trash their SSRI meds. He also claimed to have first been prescribed the medication at age 7 for anxiety.<ref>[[November 2025 social media posts#NoToPaxil]]</ref>		In [[November 2025]], Chris claimed to have "stopped taking fluoxetine about a year ago".<ref>[[November_2025_social_media_posts#Thought_piece]]</ref> He also blamed his SSRI meds for a lack of focus emotionally and suggested others trash their SSRI meds. He also claimed to have first been prescribed the medication at age 7 for anxiety.<ref>[[November 2025 social media posts#NoToPaxil]]</ref>
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	Chris has also mentioned taking the prescription drug propranolol (Inderal), which is commonly prescribed for high blood pressure, anxiety, and (more controversially) at higher doses to intentionally weaken the memories of people with PTSD. However, Inderal can also improve focus and concentration in some people. It is unknown whether he is still taking it, or why he was prescribed it. <ref>[[The_Place_chats_(September_2020)]]</ref>		Chris has also mentioned taking the prescription drug propranolol (Inderal), which is commonly prescribed for high blood pressure, anxiety, and (more controversially) at higher doses to intentionally weaken the memories of people with PTSD. However, Inderal can also improve focus and concentration in some people. It is unknown whether he is still taking it, or why he was prescribed it. <ref>[[The_Place_chats_(September_2020)]]</ref>

	It is unknown whether Chris is still taking any psych meds at all after stopping Prozac, whether he's still taking the Inderal, or whether at any point he has been prescribed ''antipsychotics.'' Some Kiwi Farmers have suggested he was given antipsychotics, noting the stereotypical motion side effects, sedation, etc., and the fact that Chris mentioned that "too much serotonin" is a problem may hint at Chris taking a ''second-generation antipsychotic'' instead of Fluoxetine (SGA's notably block serotonin receptors. Risperidone blocks one variety of them permanently.) Despite the name, antipsychotics are prescribed for a variety of reasons besides psychosis, with some shrinks controversially using them for autism and mild cases of bipolar disorder.		It is unknown whether Chris is still taking any psych meds at all after stopping Prozac, whether he's still taking the Inderal, or whether at any point he has been prescribed ''antipsychotics.'' Some Kiwi Farmers have suggested he was given antipsychotics, noting the stereotypical motion side effects, sedation, etc., and the fact that Chris mentioned that "too much serotonin" is a problem may hint at Chris taking a ''second-generation antipsychotic'' instead of Fluoxetine (SGA's notably block serotonin receptors. Risperidone blocks one variety of them permanently.) Despite the name, antipsychotics are prescribed for a variety of reasons besides psychosis, with some shrinks controversially using them for autism and mild cases of bipolar disorder.

	==Prescriptions for other ailments==		==Prescriptions for other ailments==

Master at 09:24, 2 January 2026

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			{{Protip\|Commentary on possible side effects from any medication or recreational drug (cognitive, sexual, or otherwise) is purely speculative, based on commonly reported, listed, and/or studied side effects. Some side effects may either not happen to you/Chris, or be a small price to pay for better health or behavior. Do not discontinue any medication because of something said on this site.}}

	{{quote\|The despicable mention of rude words and... D-R-U-G-S.\|[[Song of Christian]]}}		{{quote\|The despicable mention of rude words and... D-R-U-G-S.\|[[Song of Christian]]}}
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	Much like [[List of things Chris has shoved up his ass\|shoving things up his ass]], recreational drugs were something that Chris used to preach against, until he eventually tried alcohol and discovered he loved the somewhat pleasant effect. As of 2021, Chris has consumed caffeine, cannabis, and alcohol. He has yet to smoke a cigarette or try any hard drugs such as cocaine. Chris has also been on a litany of prescription and over-the-counter drugs to treat his various ailments.		Much like [[List of things Chris has shoved up his ass\|shoving things up his ass]], recreational drugs were something that Chris used to preach against, until he eventually tried alcohol and discovered he loved the somewhat pleasant effect. As of 2021, Chris has consumed caffeine, cannabis, and alcohol. He has yet to smoke a cigarette or try any hard drugs such as cocaine. Chris has also been on a litany of prescription and over-the-counter drugs to treat his various ailments.

	{{Protip\|Commentary on possible side effects from any medication or recreational drug (cognitive, sexual, or otherwise) is purely speculative, based on commonly reported, listed, and/or studied side effects. Some side effects may either not happen to you/Chris, or be a small price to pay for better health or behavior. Do not discontinue any medication because of something said on this site.}}

	==Psychiatric medication==		==Psychiatric medication==

AAE at 19:50, 1 January 2026

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	{{quote\|The despicable mention of rude words and... D-R-U-G-S.\|[[Song of Christian]]}}		{{quote\|The despicable mention of rude words and... D-R-U-G-S.\|[[Song of Christian]]}}


	A '''drug''' is any substance, other than food, that changes an [[Chris\|organism]]'s physiology or psychology when consumed.		A '''drug''' is any substance, other than food, that changes an [[Chris\|organism]]'s physiology or psychology when consumed.

	Much like [[List of things Chris has shoved up his ass\|shoving things up his ass]], recreational drugs were something that Chris used to preach against, until he eventually tried alcohol and discovered he loved the somewhat pleasant effect. As of 2021, Chris has consumed caffeine, cannabis, and alcohol. He has yet to smoke a cigarette or try any hard drugs such as cocaine. Chris has also been on a litany of prescription and over-the-counter drugs to treat his various ailments.		Much like [[List of things Chris has shoved up his ass\|shoving things up his ass]], recreational drugs were something that Chris used to preach against, until he eventually tried alcohol and discovered he loved the somewhat pleasant effect. As of 2021, Chris has consumed caffeine, cannabis, and alcohol. He has yet to smoke a cigarette or try any hard drugs such as cocaine. Chris has also been on a litany of prescription and over-the-counter drugs to treat his various ailments.
	~~==History of medication==~~
	According to the 2004 psychiatric survey, at some point in his life, Chris was prescribed the antidepressant medication [[Wikipedia:Imipramine\|Imipramine]]. It's not clear when he was prescribed the drug, or for what exact reason, but it was likely sometime in his younger days. Since the advent of more sophisticated antidepressant drugs like [[Wikipedia:Prozac\|Prozac]] in the late [[1980s]], the use of Imipramine to treat depression and other psychological disorders has grown less and less common.

	The same document notes that, as of 2004, Chris had been taking the antidepressant [[Wikipedia:Paxil\|Paxil]] for four years in order to deal with his stress and anger issues. One of the survey's recommendations was an increase in his daily dose of the drug, but it's not clear how long Chris continued taking it afterward. In [[Mailbag 13#Take Your Prescribed Medicine, Young Man\|Mailbag #13]], he explained that he had switched to a different medication in order to avoid some of Paxil's side effects, the ones that "only hit adults." However, in his 11th call with [[Kacey]] Chris said that the drug he switched to from Paxil is Paroxetine.<ref>[[Kacey Call 11]]</ref> Since Paxil is just one of Paroxetine's several trade names and not a different drug, ~~it seems that~~ Chris is still taking the same medication, ~~only under~~ a ~~different appellation~~.		{{Protip\|Commentary on possible side effects from any medication or recreational drug (cognitive, sexual, or otherwise) is purely speculative, based on commonly reported, listed, and/or studied side effects. Some side effects may either not happen to you/Chris, or be a small price to pay for better health or behavior. Do not discontinue any medication because of something said on this site.}}

			==Psychiatric medication==
			According to the 2004 psychiatric survey, at some point in his life, Chris was prescribed the antidepressant medication [[Wikipedia:Imipramine\|Imipramine]]. It's not clear when he was prescribed the drug, or for what exact reason, but it was likely sometime in his younger days. Since the advent of more sophisticated antidepressant drugs like [[Wikipedia:Prozac\|Prozac]] in the late [[1980s]], the use of Imipramine to treat depression and other psychological disorders has grown less common, though this medication is also commonly prescribed for bedwetting.

			The same document notes that, as of 2004, Chris had been taking the antidepressant [[Wikipedia:Paxil\|Paxil]] for four years in order to deal with his stress and anger issues. One of the survey's recommendations was an increase in his daily dose of the drug, but it's not clear how long Chris continued taking it afterward. In [[Mailbag 13#Take Your Prescribed Medicine, Young Man\|Mailbag #13]], he explained that he had switched to a different medication in order to avoid some of Paxil's side effects, the ones that "only hit adults." However, in his 11th call with [[Kacey]] Chris said that the drug he switched to from Paxil is Paroxetine.<ref>[[Kacey Call 11]]</ref> Since Paxil is just one of Paroxetine's several trade names and not a different drug, Chris was still taking the same medication, and any improvement was the result of either a lower dose or placebo.

	Chris didn't specify what side effects Paxil caused him, but his language suggests some sort of a sexual dysfunction. Paxil may have been making it difficult for Chris to [[mass debating\|achieve orgasm]]; ~~if his current antidepressant~~ is ~~still Paroxetine (or at least another [[wikipedia:Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor\|SSRI]]) then~~ it might explain why it took him around 20 minutes in order to climax when he cybered with [[Julie]].<ref>For examples see the full transcript of [[Bob Walks In]] and [[CWC Cums for a Cat]].</ref>		Chris didn't specify what side effects Paxil caused him, but his language suggests some sort of a sexual dysfunction. Paxil may have been making it difficult for Chris to [[mass debating\|achieve orgasm]]; SSRIs in general have the effect of weakening the libido, though this is not universal. Still, it might explain why it took him around 20 minutes in order to climax when he cybered with [[Julie]].<ref>For examples see the full transcript of [[Bob Walks In]] and [[CWC Cums for a Cat]].</ref>

			Studies differ on whether Paxil causes long-term cognitive impairment, confusion, and memory loss, with some suggesting a positive effect, and other suggesting that its ''anticholinergic'' nature makes it worse than other SSRIs, arguably contributing to dementia by blocking a key neurotransmitter (acetylcholine). Other anticholinergic drugs include Benadryl and Cogentin. Many patients anecdotally report a loss of autobiographical memory or concentration, and impaired judgement (to the point where some patients have slowed reaction time when driving) is a very common side effect as well.

	Another of Paxil's more notable side effects is the potential for [[Obesity\|substantial weight gain]], which couldn't have mixed well with Chris's [[McDonald's\|diet]] and [[biological clock\|sedentary lifestyle]].		Another of Paxil's more notable side effects is the potential for [[Obesity\|substantial weight gain]], which couldn't have mixed well with Chris's [[McDonald's\|diet]] and [[biological clock\|sedentary lifestyle]].

	In a ~~[[November 2025 social media posts##NoToPaxil\|Bluesky thread]]~~ on ~~14 November 2025~~, Chris ~~began to question why he had been on Paxil at all~~, ~~believing it to have exacerbated~~ the ~~symptoms of his autism. He~~ also ~~claimed to have first been prescribed~~ the ~~medication at age 7 for anxiety~~.		At some point in the late 2010s, Chris stopped Paroxetine and started Fluoxetine (Prozac), which has weaker anticholinergic effects, considered insignificant. Still, PSSD (post-SSRI sexual dysfunction) is a relatively common side effect, as is impaired judgement and cognitive impairment in some patients. (Brain fog isn't universal on these meds, though.) Chris brought up his new meds role-playing as Magi-Chan, speaking in the third person, while also saying that Barb suggested the switch.<ref>[[Official CWCki Server Chats]]</ref>

	~~==Prescription drugs==~~		In [[November 2025]], Chris claimed to have "stopped taking fluoxetine about a year ago".<ref>[[November_2025_social_media_posts#Thought_piece]]</ref> He also blamed his SSRI meds for a lack of focus emotionally and suggested others trash their SSRI meds. He also claimed to have first been prescribed the medication at age 7 for anxiety.<ref>[[November 2025 social media posts#NoToPaxil]]</ref>
	~~====Prescriptions~~ for ~~mental health====~~
	~~{{Main\|Autism}}~~

	~~Due to~~ Chris~~'s autism, he~~ has ~~had to take a variety of prescription drugs over the years. As of 2000, Chris has been~~ taking the ~~antidepressant Paxil for his autism~~ (which ~~increased from 20mg to 30mg after his [[Autism papers\|psychiatric diagnosis]])~~, ~~but sometime before December 2009 he stopped taking it~~, and ~~instead began taking Paroxetine, citing Paxil's side-effects. Interestingly enough, both have~~ the ~~same chemical composition, meaning both are the same drug~~ with ~~different trade names~~. ~~If word ever gets out that Chris felt Paroxetine didn't have the same side effects as Paxil~~, ~~know that this is just an example of the placebo effect~~. It is ~~possible that Paxil/Paroxetine's side effects included making orgasm harder and increased potential for [[obesity\|weight gain]]~~. ~~Sometime afterwards,~~ [[~~Barbara~~]] ~~found out about its side effects and switched Chris to fluoxetine, though Chris still mentioned paroxetine well into [[October 2017]].~~		Chris has also mentioned taking the prescription drug propranolol (Inderal), which is commonly prescribed for high blood pressure, anxiety, and (more controversially) at higher doses to intentionally weaken the memories of people with PTSD. However, Inderal can also improve focus and concentration in some people. It is unknown whether he is still taking it, or why he was prescribed it. <ref>[[The_Place_chats_(September_2020)]]</ref>

	In that ~~same paper, it also~~ mentioned ~~his~~ taking of ~~imipramine~~, ~~an antidepressant~~, for ~~unknown reasons~~.		It is unknown whether Chris is still taking any psych meds at all after stopping Prozac, whether he's still taking the Inderal, or whether at any point he has been prescribed ''antipsychotics.'' Some Kiwi Farmers have suggested he was given antipsychotics, noting the stereotypical motion side effects, sedation, etc., and the fact that Chris mentioned that "too much serotonin" is a problem may hint at Chris taking a ''second-generation antipsychotic'' instead of Fluoxetine (SGA's notably block serotonin receptors. Risperidone blocks one variety of them permanently.) Despite the name, antipsychotics are prescribed for a variety of reasons besides psychosis, with some shrinks controversially using them for autism and mild cases of bipolar disorder.

	In [[November 2025]], Chris claimed to have "stopped taking fluoxetine about a year ago".<ref>[[November_2025_social_media_posts#Thought_piece]]</ref> He also blamed his SSRI meds for a lack of focus emotionally and suggested others trash their SSRI meds.<ref>[[November 2025 social media posts#NoToPaxil]]</ref>		==Prescriptions for other ailments==

	====Prescriptions for other ailments====
	{{Main\|Chris and health}}		{{Main\|Chris and health}}

	For the majority of his life, Chris has had cholesterol problems. To combat this, instead of eating healthier and getting exercise, Chris eats junk food and exercises ''very'' occasionally while taking Lipitor, a cholesterol-lowering drug. While Lipitor and similar drugs can have a positive effect in lowering the cholesterol levels of those taking it, if one doesn't change their lifestyle as well there will be little change in the cholesterol level. Chris, having taken Lipitor since at least [[August 2009]], has had some improvement with his cholesterol levels; he got a score of 140 mg/ml, which, while not low, is not high either. Since Chris is very unfit, it's likely that Lipitor seems to be doing a decent job.		For the majority of his life, Chris has had cholesterol problems. To combat this, instead of eating healthier and getting exercise, Chris eats junk food and exercises ''very'' occasionally while taking Lipitor, a cholesterol-lowering drug. While Lipitor and similar drugs can have a positive effect in lowering the cholesterol levels of those taking it, if one doesn't change their lifestyle as well there will be little change in the cholesterol level. Chris, having taken Lipitor since at least [[August 2009]], has had some improvement with his cholesterol levels; he got a score of 140 mg/ml, which, while not low, is not high either. Since Chris is very unfit, it's likely that Lipitor seems to be doing a decent job.

	It's worth noting that - as [[Kacey]] and [[Father Call\|her dad]] pointed out - he started taking the drug in his twenties, when it and other statins are really meant for people above age 40, and are only recommended for younger patients when the risk of early cardiovascular disease is that high.		It's worth noting that - as [[Kacey]] and [[Father Call\|her dad]] pointed out - he started taking the drug in his twenties, when it and other statins are really meant for people above age 40, and are only recommended for younger patients when the risk of early cardiovascular disease is that high. Studies differ on whether the effect on myelination or synaptogenesis is relevant for humans at normal doses, or whether these medications impair memory, leave it alone, or possibly improve it.

			In 2020, Chris brought up using a different statin, Pravastatin. He also is on Omeprazole (Prilosec), which has notable side effects including permanent damage to proton pumps in areas outside of the stomach, including the ones in neurons that generate electricity in the brain!!<ref>[[The_Place_chats_(September_2020)]]</ref>

	Chris also takes a drug to combat blood pressure, likely a blood thinner concerning his fat-high diet. It is known that Chris also takes antibiotics for UTIs.		Chris also takes a drug to combat blood pressure, likely a blood thinner concerning his fat-high diet. It is known that Chris also takes antibiotics for UTIs.

	==~~=HRT=~~==		==Hormone replacement therapy==
	Ever since [[May 2015]], Chris has been taking various forms of [[wikipedia:Transgender hormone therapy\|Hormone replacement therapy]], or HRT, to successfully [[Transgender\|transition]].		Ever since [[May 2015]], Chris has been taking various forms of [[wikipedia:Transgender hormone therapy\|Hormone replacement therapy]], or HRT, to successfully [[Transgender\|transition]].

	====Oestrogel====		===Oestrogel===
	[[File:Like budderin bread - credit to Buck Mullet.gif\|thumb\|Chris believes this is an appropriate form of hormone therapy.]]		[[File:Like budderin bread - credit to Buck Mullet.gif\|thumb\|Chris believes this is an appropriate form of hormone therapy.]]

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	[[Kim Wilson]] revealed that he was taking the hormones in May 2015,<ref>[[May 2015 Facebook posts]]</ref> and Chris mentioned the drug again as late as August 2016.<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#House Cleaning]]</ref> Throughout 2015-2016, he repeatedly complained, via Facebook posts, of feeling dizzy and ill, but failed to connect the dots and think if it could be caused taking over-dosages of a black-market drug without a physician's approval.		[[Kim Wilson]] revealed that he was taking the hormones in May 2015,<ref>[[May 2015 Facebook posts]]</ref> and Chris mentioned the drug again as late as August 2016.<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#House Cleaning]]</ref> Throughout 2015-2016, he repeatedly complained, via Facebook posts, of feeling dizzy and ill, but failed to connect the dots and think if it could be caused taking over-dosages of a black-market drug without a physician's approval.

	====Proper HRT====		While observers have noted that the medication wasn't officially intended for trans women, all HRT is in fact "off-label" for this purpose by FDA standards.

			===Proper HRT===
	At some point in Fall 2016, he finally went to a medical professional and was prescribed proper HRT. In his [[CopperCab\|interview with CopperCab]], Chris mentions he takes the testosterone blocker spironolactone, which he nicknames "[[Spyro the Dragon]]", and estradiol to assist in transitioning.		At some point in Fall 2016, he finally went to a medical professional and was prescribed proper HRT. In his [[CopperCab\|interview with CopperCab]], Chris mentions he takes the testosterone blocker spironolactone, which he nicknames "[[Spyro the Dragon]]", and estradiol to assist in transitioning.

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	Much like [[List of things Chris has shoved up his ass\|shoving things up his ass]], recreational drugs were something that Chris used to preach against, until he eventually tried alcohol and discovered he loved the somewhat pleasant effect. As of 2021, Chris has consumed caffeine, cannabis, and alcohol. He has yet to smoke a cigarette or try any hard drugs such as cocaine. Chris has also been on a litany of prescription and over-the-counter drugs to treat his various ailments.		Much like [[List of things Chris has shoved up his ass\|shoving things up his ass]], recreational drugs were something that Chris used to preach against, until he eventually tried alcohol and discovered he loved the somewhat pleasant effect. As of 2021, Chris has consumed caffeine, cannabis, and alcohol. He has yet to smoke a cigarette or try any hard drugs such as cocaine. Chris has also been on a litany of prescription and over-the-counter drugs to treat his various ailments.
			==History of medication==
			According to the 2004 psychiatric survey, at some point in his life, Chris was prescribed the antidepressant medication [[Wikipedia:Imipramine\|Imipramine]]. It's not clear when he was prescribed the drug, or for what exact reason, but it was likely sometime in his younger days. Since the advent of more sophisticated antidepressant drugs like [[Wikipedia:Prozac\|Prozac]] in the late [[1980s]], the use of Imipramine to treat depression and other psychological disorders has grown less and less common.

			The same document notes that, as of 2004, Chris had been taking the antidepressant [[Wikipedia:Paxil\|Paxil]] for four years in order to deal with his stress and anger issues. One of the survey's recommendations was an increase in his daily dose of the drug, but it's not clear how long Chris continued taking it afterward. In [[Mailbag 13#Take Your Prescribed Medicine, Young Man\|Mailbag #13]], he explained that he had switched to a different medication in order to avoid some of Paxil's side effects, the ones that "only hit adults." However, in his 11th call with [[Kacey]] Chris said that the drug he switched to from Paxil is Paroxetine.<ref>[[Kacey Call 11]]</ref> Since Paxil is just one of Paroxetine's several trade names and not a different drug, it seems that Chris is still taking the same medication, only under a different appellation.

			Chris didn't specify what side effects Paxil caused him, but his language suggests some sort of a sexual dysfunction. Paxil may have been making it difficult for Chris to [[mass debating\|achieve orgasm]]; if his current antidepressant is still Paroxetine (or at least another [[wikipedia:Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor\|SSRI]]) then it might explain why it took him around 20 minutes in order to climax when he cybered with [[Julie]].<ref>For examples see the full transcript of [[Bob Walks In]] and [[CWC Cums for a Cat]].</ref>

			Another of Paxil's more notable side effects is the potential for [[Obesity\|substantial weight gain]], which couldn't have mixed well with Chris's [[McDonald's\|diet]] and [[biological clock\|sedentary lifestyle]].

			In a [[November 2025 social media posts##NoToPaxil\|Bluesky thread]] on 14 November 2025, Chris began to question why he had been on Paxil at all, believing it to have exacerbated the symptoms of his autism. He also claimed to have first been prescribed the medication at age 7 for anxiety.

	==Prescription drugs==		==Prescription drugs==

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	In that same paper, it also mentioned his taking of imipramine, an antidepressant, for unknown reasons.		In that same paper, it also mentioned his taking of imipramine, an antidepressant, for unknown reasons.

	In [[November 2025]], Chris claimed to have "stopped taking fluoxetine about a year ago".<ref>[[November_2025_social_media_posts#Thought_piece]]</ref>		In [[November 2025]], Chris claimed to have "stopped taking fluoxetine about a year ago".<ref>[[November_2025_social_media_posts#Thought_piece]]</ref> He also blamed his SSRI meds for a lack of focus emotionally and suggested others trash their SSRI meds.<ref>[[November 2025 social media posts#NoToPaxil]]</ref>

	====Prescriptions for other ailments====		====Prescriptions for other ailments====