Chris and mental healthcare - Revision history

Hurtful Truth Level: /* Nathanael Greene Elementary School */ this is probably too speculative especially since there's little info on the institution

2026-06-01T00:41:33Z

Nathanael Greene Elementary School: this is probably too speculative especially since there's little info on the institution

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	Chris has no problem telling ''other'' people to seek professional help, however. In the [[Mailbag]], he has occasionally responded to his detractors with retorts like [[Chris and hypocrisy\|"Go See a Psychiatrist."]]<ref>[[Mailbag_35#Funny, that's the same advice we keep giving Chris\|Mailbag #35]]</ref> Funnily enough, were Chris to ever see a psychoanalyst, he or she would probably see this as classic [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection Freudian projection].		Chris has no problem telling ''other'' people to seek professional help, however. In the [[Mailbag]], he has occasionally responded to his detractors with retorts like [[Chris and hypocrisy\|"Go See a Psychiatrist."]]<ref>[[Mailbag_35#Funny, that's the same advice we keep giving Chris\|Mailbag #35]]</ref> Funnily enough, were Chris to ever see a psychoanalyst, he or she would probably see this as classic [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection Freudian projection].

	~~===[[Nathanael Greene Elementary School]]===~~
	When Chris attended NGES, there was an incident where he was supposedly restrained or molested, depending on whom you talk to. It has been claimed by Bob that they wanted to send Chris to an "institution." What they meant was likely a place where Chris could see professionals who could work with Chris's problems as opposed to teachers who deal with normal students. What Bob probably thought is he would be sent to a nuthouse. Either way, something that could have done some good in his early development didn't happen.

	===[[Mary Lee Walsh]]===		===[[Mary Lee Walsh]]===

MarcelDubois: General grammar corrections

2026-04-18T14:44:22Z

General grammar corrections

BaboonRancher23: /* Gateway Homes */

2026-02-21T17:14:20Z

Gateway Homes

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	===Gateway Homes===		===Gateway Homes===
	{{~~Incomplete~~}}		{{Main\|Gateway Homes}}

	{{references}}		{{references}}

Hurtful Truth Level: /* White knights and trolls */ nothing to do with healthcare

2025-11-16T21:30:13Z

White knights and trolls: nothing to do with healthcare

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	===Relationship Management Classes===		===Relationship Management Classes===
	Chris mentioned in a [[Addressing_Liquid#Video\|video]] from October 2009 and told [[Kacey]] in [[Kacey_Call_22\|a phone call]] in September 2009 that he had been taking some relationship management classes. Undoubtedly, Chris felt that he had found some form of real life [[Dating education\|date ed]]. In reality, Chris came upon a class meant for couples who wanted to ''manage their already established relationships'' as opposed to finding out how to get into one.		Chris mentioned in a [[Addressing_Liquid#Video\|video]] from October 2009 and told [[Kacey]] in [[Kacey_Call_22\|a phone call]] in September 2009 that he had been taking some relationship management classes. Undoubtedly, Chris felt that he had found some form of real life [[Dating education\|date ed]]. In reality, Chris came upon a class meant for couples who wanted to ''manage their already established relationships'' as opposed to finding out how to get into one.

	~~===White knights and trolls===~~
	It doesn't take a lot of effort for anyone to see that Chris has virtually no common sense. Likewise, common sense being rather common, [[white knight\|white knights]] and trolls alike are often quick to point out that most of what Chris does is stupid/insane/socially abnormal. To put it bluntly, he doesn't get it. As a result, many trolls have become armchair psychologists pondering why exactly he doesn't get it. It doesn't matter what they come up with, the result is always that Chris doesn't listen to anyone if he doesn't want to. Some white knights like [[Vivian Gee]] and [[Eschcal]] have gotten so fed up with Chris's adamant refusal to improve himself or heed advice that they turned troll or ween instead.

	===Court-mandated therapy from 2011 assault-and-battery case===		===Court-mandated therapy from 2011 assault-and-battery case===

Hurtful Truth Level: /* History of medication */

2025-11-16T21:26:26Z

History of medication

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FokkerTISM: /* History of medication */

2025-11-16T20:45:35Z

History of medication

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	Another of Paxil's more notable side effects is the potential for [[Obesity\|substantial weight gain]], which couldn't have mixed well with Chris's [[McDonald's\|diet]] and [[biological clock\|sedentary lifestyle]].		Another of Paxil's more notable side effects is the potential for [[Obesity\|substantial weight gain]], which couldn't have mixed well with Chris's [[McDonald's\|diet]] and [[biological clock\|sedentary lifestyle]].

	In a [[November 2025 social media posts##NoToPaxil\|Bluesky thread]] on 14 November 2025, Chris began to question why he had been on Paxil at all, believing it to have exacerbated the symptoms of his autism.		In a [[November 2025 social media posts##NoToPaxil\|Bluesky thread]] on 14 November 2025, Chris began to question why he had been on Paxil at all, believing it to have exacerbated the symptoms of his autism. He also claimed to have first been prescribed the medication at age 7 for anxiety.

	==Past instances of professional help (or lack thereof)==		==Past instances of professional help (or lack thereof)==

FokkerTISM: Undo revision 353801 by FokkerTISM (talk)

2025-11-16T20:45:07Z

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	==History of medication==		==History of medication==
	~~In 1989~~, Chris was prescribed the antidepressant medication [[Wikipedia:Imipramine\|Imipramine]] for ~~anxiety~~. Since the advent of more sophisticated antidepressant drugs like [[Wikipedia:Prozac\|Prozac]] in the late [[1980s]], the use of Imipramine to treat depression and other psychological disorders has grown less and less common.		According to the 2004 psychiatric survey, at some point in his life, Chris was prescribed the antidepressant medication [[Wikipedia:Imipramine\|Imipramine]]. It's not clear when he was prescribed the drug, or for what exact reason, but it was likely sometime in his younger days. Since the advent of more sophisticated antidepressant drugs like [[Wikipedia:Prozac\|Prozac]] in the late [[1980s]], the use of Imipramine to treat depression and other psychological disorders has grown less and less common.

	The same document notes that, as of 2004, Chris had been taking the antidepressant [[Wikipedia:Paxil\|Paxil]] for four years in order to deal with his stress and anger issues. One of the survey's recommendations was an increase in his daily dose of the drug, but it's not clear how long Chris continued taking it afterward. In [[Mailbag 13#Take Your Prescribed Medicine, Young Man\|Mailbag #13]], he explained that he had switched to a different medication in order to avoid some of Paxil's side effects, the ones that "only hit adults." However, in his 11th call with [[Kacey]] Chris said that the drug he switched to from Paxil is Paroxetine.<ref>[[Kacey Call 11]]</ref> Since Paxil is just one of Paroxetine's several trade names and not a different drug, it seems that Chris is still taking the same medication, only under a different appellation.		The same document notes that, as of 2004, Chris had been taking the antidepressant [[Wikipedia:Paxil\|Paxil]] for four years in order to deal with his stress and anger issues. One of the survey's recommendations was an increase in his daily dose of the drug, but it's not clear how long Chris continued taking it afterward. In [[Mailbag 13#Take Your Prescribed Medicine, Young Man\|Mailbag #13]], he explained that he had switched to a different medication in order to avoid some of Paxil's side effects, the ones that "only hit adults." However, in his 11th call with [[Kacey]] Chris said that the drug he switched to from Paxil is Paroxetine.<ref>[[Kacey Call 11]]</ref> Since Paxil is just one of Paroxetine's several trade names and not a different drug, it seems that Chris is still taking the same medication, only under a different appellation.
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	Another of Paxil's more notable side effects is the potential for [[Obesity\|substantial weight gain]], which couldn't have mixed well with Chris's [[McDonald's\|diet]] and [[biological clock\|sedentary lifestyle]].		Another of Paxil's more notable side effects is the potential for [[Obesity\|substantial weight gain]], which couldn't have mixed well with Chris's [[McDonald's\|diet]] and [[biological clock\|sedentary lifestyle]].

	In a [[November 2025 social media posts##NoToPaxil\|Bluesky thread]] on 14 November 2025, Chris began to question why he had been on Paxil at all, believing it to have exacerbated the symptoms of his autism~~, also revealing when he was prescribed~~.		In a [[November 2025 social media posts##NoToPaxil\|Bluesky thread]] on 14 November 2025, Chris began to question why he had been on Paxil at all, believing it to have exacerbated the symptoms of his autism.

	==Past instances of professional help (or lack thereof)==		==Past instances of professional help (or lack thereof)==

FokkerTISM: /* History of medication */

2025-11-16T20:44:25Z

History of medication

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	==History of medication==		==History of medication==
	~~According to the 2004 psychiatric survey, at some point in his life~~, Chris was prescribed the antidepressant medication [[Wikipedia:Imipramine\|Imipramine]]~~. It's not clear when he was prescribed the drug, or~~ for ~~what exact reason, but it was likely sometime in his younger days~~. Since the advent of more sophisticated antidepressant drugs like [[Wikipedia:Prozac\|Prozac]] in the late [[1980s]], the use of Imipramine to treat depression and other psychological disorders has grown less and less common.		In 1989, Chris was prescribed the antidepressant medication [[Wikipedia:Imipramine\|Imipramine]] for anxiety. Since the advent of more sophisticated antidepressant drugs like [[Wikipedia:Prozac\|Prozac]] in the late [[1980s]], the use of Imipramine to treat depression and other psychological disorders has grown less and less common.

	The same document notes that, as of 2004, Chris had been taking the antidepressant [[Wikipedia:Paxil\|Paxil]] for four years in order to deal with his stress and anger issues. One of the survey's recommendations was an increase in his daily dose of the drug, but it's not clear how long Chris continued taking it afterward. In [[Mailbag 13#Take Your Prescribed Medicine, Young Man\|Mailbag #13]], he explained that he had switched to a different medication in order to avoid some of Paxil's side effects, the ones that "only hit adults." However, in his 11th call with [[Kacey]] Chris said that the drug he switched to from Paxil is Paroxetine.<ref>[[Kacey Call 11]]</ref> Since Paxil is just one of Paroxetine's several trade names and not a different drug, it seems that Chris is still taking the same medication, only under a different appellation.		The same document notes that, as of 2004, Chris had been taking the antidepressant [[Wikipedia:Paxil\|Paxil]] for four years in order to deal with his stress and anger issues. One of the survey's recommendations was an increase in his daily dose of the drug, but it's not clear how long Chris continued taking it afterward. In [[Mailbag 13#Take Your Prescribed Medicine, Young Man\|Mailbag #13]], he explained that he had switched to a different medication in order to avoid some of Paxil's side effects, the ones that "only hit adults." However, in his 11th call with [[Kacey]] Chris said that the drug he switched to from Paxil is Paroxetine.<ref>[[Kacey Call 11]]</ref> Since Paxil is just one of Paroxetine's several trade names and not a different drug, it seems that Chris is still taking the same medication, only under a different appellation.
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	Another of Paxil's more notable side effects is the potential for [[Obesity\|substantial weight gain]], which couldn't have mixed well with Chris's [[McDonald's\|diet]] and [[biological clock\|sedentary lifestyle]].		Another of Paxil's more notable side effects is the potential for [[Obesity\|substantial weight gain]], which couldn't have mixed well with Chris's [[McDonald's\|diet]] and [[biological clock\|sedentary lifestyle]].

			In a [[November 2025 social media posts##NoToPaxil\|Bluesky thread]] on 14 November 2025, Chris began to question why he had been on Paxil at all, believing it to have exacerbated the symptoms of his autism, also revealing when he was prescribed.

	==Past instances of professional help (or lack thereof)==		==Past instances of professional help (or lack thereof)==

Hurtful Truth Level: /* Gender psychologist */

2025-10-26T10:42:53Z

Gender psychologist

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	===Gender psychologist===		===Gender psychologist===
	During 2016, Chris met with a gender psychologist who affirmed to him that he is [[transgender]].<ref>Chris changed the gender marker on his driver's license to identify him as female in 2016. The procedure to do this in Virginia is to have a professional vouch the patient is in gender transition on this form. Also mentioned by Chris in a [[Sonichu 12\|''Sonichu'' #12]] page</ref>		During 2016, Chris met with a gender psychologist who affirmed to him that he is [[transgender]].<ref>Chris changed the gender marker on his driver's license to identify him as female in 2016. The procedure to do this in Virginia is to have a professional vouch the patient is in gender transition on this form. Also mentioned by Chris in a [[Sonichu 12\|''Sonichu'' #12]] page</ref>

			===Transgender support group===
			In [[September 2017]], Chris mentioned to an interview that he had found a local support group for [[transgender]] people in [[Charlottesville]] and was meeting once a month.<ref>[[Internet Dream Lounge 4 - Chris Chan (unused version)#Therapy (1:08:36-1:09:56)]]</ref>

	===Court-mandated therapy from 2018 mall trespass case===		===Court-mandated therapy from 2018 mall trespass case===

Stronax: /* Rocky Shoemaker */

2025-08-19T13:29:56Z

Rocky Shoemaker

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	#He barely listened to '''anything''' she says anyway.		#He barely listened to '''anything''' she says anyway.
	#She was not qualified, much less experienced in advising a mentally disturbed individual such as Chris		#She was not qualified, much less experienced in advising a mentally disturbed individual such as Chris
	#When he listened, he misconstrued everything she said, accepting advice he liked and ignoring advice he didn't like.		#When he listened, he misconstrued everything she said, accepting advice he liked and ignoring advice he didn't like. She told him about his past habits being unacceptable, but Chris remained as determined as ever to be a total idiot. Although she put a stop to trolling plans, [[Fridays After Five\|his behavior remained the same]]. She also told him it would be a good idea to stop posting videos on YouTube, since they only feed the trolls. [[Cleveland Show Voice Rant\|That hasn't]] [[100 2178\|really worked]] [[100 2188\|out now]], [[100 2189\|has it]]?
	She told him about his past habits being unacceptable, but Chris remained as determined as ever to be a total idiot. Although she put a stop to trolling plans, [[Fridays After Five\|his behavior remained the same]]. She also told him it would be a good idea to stop posting videos on YouTube, since they only feed the trolls. [[Cleveland Show Voice Rant\|That hasn't]] [[100 2178\|really worked]] [[100 2188\|out now]], [[100 2189\|has it]]?
	#Chris doesn't want help regardless, only validation.		#Chris doesn't want help regardless, only validation.

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	{{Dated\|gender dysphoria, HRT/valium in meds section and the effect jail has had on him}}		{{Dated\|gender dysphoria, HRT/valium in meds section, and the effect jail has had on him}}

	{{quote\|My CURRENT [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church\|church]] can help me a LOT better than any "professional" because [[Chris and religion\|God and Jesus]] supports them as well.\|Chris, in 2008<ref>[[Vivitheg's AIM chat]]</ref>}}		{{quote\|My CURRENT [[Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church\|church]] can help me a LOT better than any "professional" because [[Chris and religion\|God and Jesus]] supports them as well.\|Chris, in 2008<ref>[[Vivitheg's AIM chat]]</ref>}}
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	===[[Mary Lee Walsh]]===		===[[Mary Lee Walsh]]===
	Although not a mental health professional, Walsh has experience at dealing with a large body of students and their individual problems. She has also [http://www.bookfinder.com/dir/i/The_Freshman_Experience-Creating_College_Success_Piedmont_Virginia_Community/0787288381/ written a book on coping with college life]. Despite her advanced knowledge and experience, Chris chose the better path of [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha\|cursing her]] and putting her low on his [[Scale of Respect]].		Although not a mental health professional, Walsh has experience in dealing with a large body of students and their individual problems. She has also [http://www.bookfinder.com/dir/i/The_Freshman_Experience-Creating_College_Success_Piedmont_Virginia_Community/0787288381/ written a book on coping with college life]. Despite her advanced knowledge and experience, Chris chose the better path of [[Curse-ye-ha-me-ha\|cursing her]] and putting her low on his [[Scale of Respect]].

	===Psychiatric Papers===		===Psychiatric Papers===
	Following his outburst towards Mary Lee Walsh, Chris was sent to a psychiatrist for evaluation. The resulting papers easily show a number of things, most of which can easily be told by trolls themselves. Another interesting thing is that, despite the encouragement to follow up on this, Chris's parents refuse to on the account of [[Chris and money\|insurance problems]].		Following his outburst towards Mary Lee Walsh, Chris was sent to a psychiatrist for evaluation. The resulting papers easily show a number of things, most of which can easily be told by trolls themselves. Another interesting thing is that, despite the encouragement to follow up on this, Chris's parents refuse to on the account of [[Chris and money\|insurance problems]].

	The documents note that at some point, Chris received psychiatric evaluation at the Center for Learning Potential in Mount Sidney, Virginia (a small town in northeast Augusta County that's 50 miles west of his Ruckersville home). They don't say when this took place, but given the location of the Center, it was likely either during his elementary school years or sometime after the Chandlers moved back to Charlottesville in the summer of 2000.		The documents note that at some point, Chris received a psychiatric evaluation at the Center for Learning Potential in Mount Sidney, Virginia (a small town in northeast Augusta County that's 50 miles west of his Ruckersville home). They don't say when this took place, but given the location of the Center, it was likely either during his elementary school years or sometime after the Chandlers moved back to Charlottesville in the summer of 2000.

	===Anger management and the shrink===		===Anger management and the shrink===
	Following his encounter with Mary Lee Walsh, he was ordered to take anger management classes.<ref>[[User:ChrisChanSonichu profile#Enter the Wicked Witch of the Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens]]</ref> The only thing that seemed to arise from it ~~were~~ complaints that he had to pay to see a professional, and... Well... He still can't control his anger. There's very little information about his anger management classes, as it occurred in the pre-[[ED]] days, and is only mentioned in a few old documents of Chris's that have surfaced. He's never really talked about it since, and it's never come up in comics or videos.		Following his encounter with Mary Lee Walsh, he was ordered to take anger management classes.<ref>[[User:ChrisChanSonichu profile#Enter the Wicked Witch of the Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens]]</ref> The only thing that seemed to arise from it was complaints that he had to pay to see a professional, and... Well... He still can't control his anger. There's very little information about his anger management classes, as they occurred in the pre-[[ED]] days, and are only mentioned in a few old documents of Chris's that have surfaced. He's never really talked about it since, and it's never come up in comics or videos.

	===Rocky Shoemaker===		===Rocky Shoemaker===
	Religious institutions are fond of providing spiritual counseling services to all members of their congregations, sometimes unwisely as a method of hammering them with doctrine to solve their problems, sometimes beneficially by giving them a person to talk to for free and referring them to a real professional if necessary. Whether Rocky is generally beneficial or harmful to the people who come to see her is uncertain, but she [http://cof-umc.org/blog/?p=3 is certainly admired for her past work]. What remains certain is that she was not the best solution for Chris because...		Religious institutions are fond of providing spiritual counseling services to all members of their congregations, sometimes unwisely as a method of hammering them with doctrine to solve their problems, sometimes beneficially by giving them a person to talk to for free and referring them to a real professional if necessary. Whether Rocky is generally beneficial or harmful to the people who come to see her is uncertain, but she [http://cof-umc.org/blog/?p=3 is certainly admired for her past work]. What remains certain is that she was not the best solution for Chris because...
	#She is not a licensed counselor and as such unable to offer professional advice.		#She is not a licensed counselor and as such, is unable to offer professional advice.
	#He barely listened to '''anything''' she says anyway.		#He barely listened to '''anything''' she says anyway.
	#She was not qualified, much less experienced in advising a mentally disturbed individual such as Chris		#She was not qualified, much less experienced in advising a mentally disturbed individual such as Chris
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	The conditions of Chris's plea bargain in [[July 2012]] required him to undergo psychiatric treatment and evaluation, but it seems to have had little effect.		The conditions of Chris's plea bargain in [[July 2012]] required him to undergo psychiatric treatment and evaluation, but it seems to have had little effect.

	===Court-mandated therapy from 2014 pepper spray case===		===Court-mandated therapy from the 2014 pepper spray case===
	Chris makes mention of therapy in his video [[Group Embargo on GameStop, Best Buy, and Simon Shopping Centers]] and it was also reported by observers viewing his July 23 court hearing. The mental health group he attended was On Our Own of Charlottesville.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/CwcvilleGuardian/activity/926374040790409</ref>		Chris makes mention of therapy in his video [[Group Embargo on GameStop, Best Buy, and Simon Shopping Centers]] and it was also reported by observers viewing his July 23 court hearing. The mental health group he attended was On Our Own of Charlottesville.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/CwcvilleGuardian/activity/926374040790409</ref>

	===Gender psychologist===		===Gender psychologist===
	During 2016, Chris met with a gender psychologist who affirmed to him that he is [[transgender]].<ref>Chris changed the gender marker on his driver's license to identify him as female in 2016. The procedure to do this in Virginia is to have a professional vouch the patient is in gender transition on this form. Also mentioned by Chris in a [[Sonichu 12\|''Sonichu'' #12]] page</ref>		During 2016, Chris met with a gender psychologist who affirmed to him that he is [[transgender]].<ref>Chris changed the gender marker on his driver's license to identify him as female in 2016. The procedure to do this in Virginia is to have a professional vouch that the patient is in gender transition on this form. Also mentioned by Chris in a [[Sonichu 12\|''Sonichu'' #12]] page</ref>

	===Transgender support group===		===Transgender support group===
	In [[September 2017]], Chris mentioned to an interview that he had found a local support group for [[transgender]] people in [[Charlottesville]] and was meeting once a month.<ref>[[Internet Dream Lounge 4 - Chris Chan (unused version)#Therapy (1:08:36-1:09:56)]]</ref>		In [[September 2017]], Chris mentioned to an interview that he had found a local support group for [[transgender]] people in [[Charlottesville]] and was meeting once a month.<ref>[[Internet Dream Lounge 4 - Chris Chan (unused version)#Therapy (1:08:36-1:09:56)]]</ref>

	===Court-mandated therapy from 2018 mall trespass case===		===Court-mandated therapy from the 2018 mall trespass case===
	Chris was directed to the [[Therapeutic Docket]] program and required to meet with a psychiatrist and therapy group between [[July 2018]] and [[April 2019]]. However, he failed to benefit from the resources, instead retreating further to his imaginary world and the bad actors validating his beliefs.		Chris was directed to the [[Therapeutic Docket]] program and required to meet with a psychiatrist and therapy group between [[July 2018]] and [[April 2019]]. However, he failed to benefit from the resources, instead retreating further into his imaginary world and the bad actors validating his beliefs.

	===DR Wolf===		===DR Wolf===