Chris and money - Revision history

Hurtful Truth Level at 19:58, 25 March 2026

2026-03-25T19:58:45Z

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	[[Chris]] has repeatedly shown though his actions and words that he has no idea how to handle '''money''' or manage his own finances. Between his impulse spending, [[Chris and his Ego\|his greed and selfishness]], his unwillingness to save even the smallest amount of money, and his massive sense of entitlement, Chris manages to demonstrate complete incompetence and ineptitude in managing financial affairs. Chris has repeatedly amassed debt on credit cards, only to have his enabling parents bail him out multiple times. [[Monthly tugboat\|Too lazy to work]], he refuses to make or follow any type of budget or financial plan, instead spending far beyond his means, and expecting others<ref>[[:File:Piss_and_burn_fb.PNG]]</ref> to pay off his accumulated debt for him. It is clear that [[Honor roll\|Chris has no idea what financial responsibility is]] and that his enabling, delusional parents taught him nothing about how to handle finances while he was growing up. Irresponsible, careless, and thoughtless, Chris fails at just about every aspect of financial management that can be thought of.		[[Chris]] has repeatedly shown though his actions and words that he has no idea how to handle '''money''' or manage his own finances. Between his impulse spending, [[Chris and his Ego\|his greed and selfishness]], his unwillingness to save even the smallest amount of money, and his massive sense of entitlement, Chris manages to demonstrate complete incompetence and ineptitude in managing financial affairs. Chris has repeatedly amassed debt on credit cards, only to have his enabling parents bail him out multiple times. [[Monthly tugboat\|Too lazy to work]], he refuses to make or follow any type of budget or financial plan, instead spending far beyond his means, and expecting others<ref>[[:File:Piss_and_burn_fb.PNG]]</ref> to pay off his accumulated debt for him. It is clear that [[Honor roll\|Chris has no idea what financial responsibility is]] and that his enabling, delusional parents taught him nothing about how to handle finances while he was growing up. Irresponsible, careless, and thoughtless, Chris fails at just about every aspect of financial management that can be thought of.

			As of [[November 2016]], Chris lists the dumbest thing he's ever spent money on as the $11 cake he ruined in [[Cakefarts]].<ref>[[Reddit#Dumbest thing ever spent money on (15 November 2016)]]</ref>

	==But wait, Chris isn't employed!==		==But wait, Chris isn't employed!==

Hurtful Truth Level: /* Chris's parental enabling */ no source given for Bob and tugboat claim

2026-03-14T17:55:24Z

Chris's parental enabling: no source given for Bob and tugboat claim

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	===Chris's parental enabling===		===Chris's parental enabling===
	Bob encouraged his son to remain unemployed, since he believed that Chris would earn more money from his monthly tugboat than he would have from getting a job. However, this assumption was and is inaccurate. Minimum wage in the state of [[Virginia]] is $7.25 an hour. If Chris were to somehow do a complete 180° on his life and begin working a full 40-hour week, his monthly payment before taxes and payment for room and board would be about $1,260: that's $15,100 annually. Subtracting the money he pays his mom every month to live, as well as the 5% tax his income range mandates in the state of Virginia, Chris could very likely be left with a ridiculous $8,000, which knowing Chris, would be spent on yet more frivolities. Contrast this with the $2,748 Chris pulled in annually from the government after paying off his parents, and it becomes clear that Bob's encouragement came from either thinking Chris would lose his social security if employed (which he wouldn't) or the more accurate notion that his son is a useless failure.		If Chris were to somehow do a complete 180° on his life and begin working a full 40-hour week, his monthly payment before taxes and payment for room and board would be about $1,260: that's $15,100 annually. Subtracting the money he pays his mom every month to live, as well as the 5% tax his income range mandates in the state of Virginia, Chris could very likely be left with a ridiculous $8,000, which knowing Chris, would be spent on yet more frivolities. Contrast this with the $2,748 Chris pulled in annually from the government after paying off his parents, and it becomes clear that Bob's encouragement came from either thinking Chris would lose his social security if employed (which he wouldn't) or the more accurate notion that his son is a useless failure.

	A very likely explanation for Chris's reckless spending is that his parents are at fault (to a degree at least). In addition to coddling him throughout his entire life, they managed to make sure that [[Chris and remorse\|Chris has never felt the repercussions for his exorbitant spending (or for anything else)]] by taking over paying Chris's credit card debt, regularly giving him about "$6 a day for small things", buying him [[List of restaurants\|fast food]] on a daily basis, and continuing to let himself blow all his money on frivolities and useless stuff, as opposed to essentials like [[Chris and health#Chris and hygiene\|hygiene products]], [[Piedmont Virginia Community College\|courses that could eventually help him onto the employment ladder]] or [[Clown shirt\|clothing that isn't unbelievably tacky]]. Whenever Chris manages to [[The GAMe PLACe\|get himself into trouble]], he knows that [[Barbara Chandler\|Barb]] will come [[Matthew Noble call\|running to his aid and defend him]] and dig him out of whatever mess he's managed to get himself into, even if it is clear that he [[Get-Tar Region\|is in the wrong]]. This enabling is the most likely explanation (in addition to his [[Autism\|poor impulse control]]) for why Chris spends himself into debt as much as he does.		A very likely explanation for Chris's reckless spending is that his parents are at fault (to a degree at least). In addition to coddling him throughout his entire life, they managed to make sure that [[Chris and remorse\|Chris has never felt the repercussions for his exorbitant spending (or for anything else)]] by taking over paying Chris's credit card debt, regularly giving him about "$6 a day for small things", buying him [[List of restaurants\|fast food]] on a daily basis, and continuing to let himself blow all his money on frivolities and useless stuff, as opposed to essentials like [[Chris and health#Chris and hygiene\|hygiene products]], [[Piedmont Virginia Community College\|courses that could eventually help him onto the employment ladder]] or [[Clown shirt\|clothing that isn't unbelievably tacky]]. Whenever Chris manages to [[The GAMe PLACe\|get himself into trouble]], he knows that [[Barbara Chandler\|Barb]] will come [[Matthew Noble call\|running to his aid and defend him]] and dig him out of whatever mess he's managed to get himself into, even if it is clear that he [[Get-Tar Region\|is in the wrong]]. This enabling is the most likely explanation (in addition to his [[Autism\|poor impulse control]]) for why Chris spends himself into debt as much as he does.

Hurtful Truth Level: recent failings

2026-02-20T00:45:41Z

recent failings

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2025-10-08T12:35:14Z

Theft

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	=== Theft ===		=== Theft ===
	[[File:BoA alert 1 Aug 2021.png\|thumb\|Null ~~posts~~ a screenshot of Chris's bank notifying him he has $1.03 left in his account.]]		[[File:BoA alert 1 Aug 2021.png\|thumb\|Null leaks a screenshot of Chris's bank notifying him he has $1.03 left in his account.]]

	Chris has a history of indulging in five-finger discounts that he attempts to keep secret from prying eyes. As far back as 2009, if not before, Chris would steal increasingly larger sums of money from his mother's purse for personal use, and use both of his parents' credit cards to finance his gaming addiction as revealed by the [[Ivy Q&A]]. Despite Chris insisting that this behaviour was 'in the past', he would engage in it with apparent reckless abandon regardless, stopping only when forced to after Barb discovered just how much he had purloined. Years later, Chris would rob his mother again - [[Affair with Mother\|in much darker and far more damning circumstances]].		Chris has a history of indulging in five-finger discounts that he attempts to keep secret from prying eyes. As far back as 2009, if not before, Chris would steal increasingly larger sums of money from his mother's purse for personal use, and use both of his parents' credit cards to finance his gaming addiction as revealed by the [[Ivy Q&A]]. Despite Chris insisting that this behaviour was 'in the past', he would engage in it with apparent reckless abandon regardless, stopping only when forced to after Barb discovered just how much he had purloined. Years later, Chris would rob his mother again - [[Affair with Mother\|in much darker and far more damning circumstances]].

Frank41jeff: Fits better.

2025-08-29T16:14:50Z

Fits better.

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	{{quote\|He's [[Mathematics\|not good at math]] when it comes to managing money.\|[[Bob Chandler]], understating it.<ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript]]</ref>}}		{{quote\|He's [[Mathematics\|not good at math]] when it comes to managing money.\|[[Bob Chandler]], understating it.<ref>[[Emily Date Conversation Transcript]]</ref>}}

	[[Chris]] has repeatedly shown though his actions and words that he has no idea how to handle '''money''' or manage his own finances. Between his impulse spending, [[Chris and his Ego\|his greed and selfishness]], his unwillingness to save even the smallest amount of money, and his massive sense of entitlement, Chris manages to demonstrate complete incompetence and ineptitude in managing financial affairs. Chris has repeatedly amassed debt on credit cards, only to have his enabling parents bail him out multiple times. [[Monthly tugboat\|Too lazy to work]], he refuses to make or follow any type of budget or financial plan, instead spending far beyond his means, and expecting others<ref>[[:File:Piss_and_burn_fb.PNG]]</ref> to pay off his accumulated debt for him. It is clear that [[~~Autism~~\|Chris has no idea what financial responsibility is]] and that his enabling, delusional parents taught him nothing about how to handle finances while he was growing up. Irresponsible, careless, and thoughtless, Chris fails at just about every aspect of financial management that can be thought of.		[[Chris]] has repeatedly shown though his actions and words that he has no idea how to handle '''money''' or manage his own finances. Between his impulse spending, [[Chris and his Ego\|his greed and selfishness]], his unwillingness to save even the smallest amount of money, and his massive sense of entitlement, Chris manages to demonstrate complete incompetence and ineptitude in managing financial affairs. Chris has repeatedly amassed debt on credit cards, only to have his enabling parents bail him out multiple times. [[Monthly tugboat\|Too lazy to work]], he refuses to make or follow any type of budget or financial plan, instead spending far beyond his means, and expecting others<ref>[[:File:Piss_and_burn_fb.PNG]]</ref> to pay off his accumulated debt for him. It is clear that [[Honor roll\|Chris has no idea what financial responsibility is]] and that his enabling, delusional parents taught him nothing about how to handle finances while he was growing up. Irresponsible, careless, and thoughtless, Chris fails at just about every aspect of financial management that can be thought of.

	==But wait, Chris isn't employed!==		==But wait, Chris isn't employed!==

PsychoNerd054: A lot of this is dated, since Praetor is the closest thing Chris has, and possibly ever will at this point, to having a job.

2025-04-16T19:12:33Z

A lot of this is dated, since Praetor is the closest thing Chris has, and possibly ever will at this point, to having a job.

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Hurtful Truth Level at 19:47, 25 March 2025

2025-03-25T19:47:46Z

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	Chris has a history of indulging in five-finger discounts that he attempts to keep secret from prying eyes. As far back as 2009, if not before, Chris would steal increasingly larger sums of money from his mother's purse for personal use, and use both of his parents' credit cards to finance his gaming addiction as revealed by the [[Ivy Q&A]]. Despite Chris insisting that this behaviour was 'in the past', he would engage in it with apparent reckless abandon regardless, stopping only when forced to after Barb discovered just how much he had purloined. Years later, Chris would rob his mother again - [[Affair with Mother\|in much darker and far more damning circumstances]].		Chris has a history of indulging in five-finger discounts that he attempts to keep secret from prying eyes. As far back as 2009, if not before, Chris would steal increasingly larger sums of money from his mother's purse for personal use, and use both of his parents' credit cards to finance his gaming addiction as revealed by the [[Ivy Q&A]]. Despite Chris insisting that this behaviour was 'in the past', he would engage in it with apparent reckless abandon regardless, stopping only when forced to after Barb discovered just how much he had purloined. Years later, Chris would rob his mother again - [[Affair with Mother\|in much darker and far more damning circumstances]].

	On 30 [[July 2021]], after Chris was served an Emergency Protective Order temporarily forbidding him from his home, he stole $750 from Barb's bank account. Some of this money was spent immediately - Chris' bank account was 200 dollars in debt. Much of what remained was spent on lodging in [[Regency Inn Richmond]], and the leftover money was swiftly spent on what can be assumed to be assorted frivolities and food. ''Two days'' after this money was withdrawn, [[Null]] - who at that point could still view the emails from Chris's bank - posted an image of a low balance notice from Chris's Bank of America account on the [[Kiwi Farms]], confirming that Chris had $1.03 remaining in his account.		On 30 [[July 2021]], after Chris was served an [[Emergency Protective Order]] temporarily forbidding him from his home, he stole $750 from Barb's bank account. Some of this money was spent immediately - Chris' bank account was 200 dollars in debt. Much of what remained was spent on lodging in [[Regency Inn Richmond]], and the leftover money was swiftly spent on what can be assumed to be assorted frivolities and food. ''Two days'' after this money was withdrawn, [[Null]] - who at that point could still view the emails from Chris's bank - posted an image of a low balance notice from Chris's Bank of America account on the [[Kiwi Farms]], confirming that Chris had $1.03 remaining in his account.

	In a letter he relayed to Null a couple of months later, he claims to have sent his $150 Patreon payout back to Barb, as compensation for stealing the money.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021]]</ref>		In a letter he relayed to Null a couple of months later, he claims to have sent his $150 Patreon payout back to Barb, as compensation for stealing the money.<ref>[[Jail Letter - 19 September 2021]]</ref>

Hurtful Truth Level: /* Subscription services */

2024-08-28T04:30:48Z

Subscription services

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	==Subscription services==		==Subscription services==
	Chris has been subscribed to various services over the years. These include Crystal Council,<ref>[[April 2021 social media posts#Crystal Council]]</ref> Disney+,<ref>[[The Place chats (December 2019)#Priorities]]</ref><ref>[[The Place chats (December 2020)#The Avatar State]]</ref> HBO Max,<ref>[[The Place chats (February 2021)#Vaughn, HBO Max, and Sockness]]</ref> [[Patreon]], and Tokyo Treat.<ref>[[October 2017 tweets#Tokyo Treat]]</ref><ref>[[May 2019 social media posts#Chris Spends More Money]]</ref><ref>[[May 2020 social media posts#Tentacle grape]]</ref>		Chris has been subscribed to various services over the years. These include Clip Studio,<ref>[[May 2020 social media posts#Chris gets an iPad]]</ref> Crystal Council,<ref>[[April 2021 social media posts#Crystal Council]]</ref> Disney+,<ref>[[The Place chats (December 2019)#Priorities]]</ref><ref>[[The Place chats (December 2020)#The Avatar State]]</ref> HBO Max,<ref>[[The Place chats (February 2021)#Vaughn, HBO Max, and Sockness]]</ref> [[Patreon]], and Tokyo Treat.<ref>[[October 2017 tweets#Tokyo Treat]]</ref><ref>[[May 2019 social media posts#Chris Spends More Money]]</ref><ref>[[May 2020 social media posts#Tentacle grape]]</ref>

	==Money-Making Schemes==		==Money-Making Schemes==

Hurtful Truth Level: /* Subscription services */

2024-08-28T04:27:19Z

Subscription services

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	==Subscription services==		==Subscription services==
	Chris has been subscribed to various services over the years. These include Crystal Council,<ref>[[April 2021 social media posts#Crystal Council]]</ref> Disney+,<ref>[[The Place chats (December 2019)#Priorities]]</ref><ref>[[The Place chats (December 2020)#The Avatar State]]</ref> HBO Max,<ref>[[The Place chats (February 2021)#Vaughn, HBO Max, and Sockness]]</ref> [[Patreon]], and Tokyo Treat.		Chris has been subscribed to various services over the years. These include Crystal Council,<ref>[[April 2021 social media posts#Crystal Council]]</ref> Disney+,<ref>[[The Place chats (December 2019)#Priorities]]</ref><ref>[[The Place chats (December 2020)#The Avatar State]]</ref> HBO Max,<ref>[[The Place chats (February 2021)#Vaughn, HBO Max, and Sockness]]</ref> [[Patreon]], and Tokyo Treat.<ref>[[October 2017 tweets#Tokyo Treat]]</ref><ref>[[May 2019 social media posts#Chris Spends More Money]]</ref><ref>[[May 2020 social media posts#Tentacle grape]]</ref>

	==Money-Making Schemes==		==Money-Making Schemes==

Hurtful Truth Level: /* Subscription services */

2024-08-28T04:16:48Z

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	==Subscription services==		==Subscription services==
	Chris has been subscribed to various services over the years. These include Crystal Council,<ref>[[April 2021 social media posts#Crystal Council]]</ref> Disney+,<ref>[[The Place chats (December 2019)#Priorities]]</ref><ref>[[The Place chats (December 2020)#The Avatar State]]</ref> HBO Max, [[Patreon]], and Tokyo Treat.		Chris has been subscribed to various services over the years. These include Crystal Council,<ref>[[April 2021 social media posts#Crystal Council]]</ref> Disney+,<ref>[[The Place chats (December 2019)#Priorities]]</ref><ref>[[The Place chats (December 2020)#The Avatar State]]</ref> HBO Max,<ref>[[The Place chats (February 2021)#Vaughn, HBO Max, and Sockness]]</ref> [[Patreon]], and Tokyo Treat.

	==Money-Making Schemes==		==Money-Making Schemes==