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	{{quote\|Shut Up and Buy My Toys, please.\|Chris, to a potential customer.<ref>[[April 2018 social media posts#Autographs removed from toys]]</ref>}}		{{quote\|Shut Up and Buy My Toys, please.\|Chris, to a potential customer.<ref>[[April 2018 social media posts#Autographs removed from toys]]</ref>}}

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	===[[Jail Saga\|In court]]===		===[[Jail Saga\|In court]]===
	When Chris was arrested in [[August 2021]], he found himself before the courts to be arraigned for ~~the charges~~. After being reminded that said appearance was to determine if he would be given bond or not ~~(based on his likeliness to appear on trial and if he, the defendant, constituted a danger to himself and others~~,) Chris ~~made demands that [[Chris and reality\|he be let home]] to collect [[Toys\|his things]], but not before risking contempt of court by doing things such as stomping~~ his feet ~~in anger~~ and interrupting the judge several times with inane outbursts such as: "I'm famous on the internet!"		When Chris was arrested in [[August 2021]], he found himself before the courts to be arraigned for an [[incest]] charge. After being reminded that said appearance was to determine if he would be given bond or not, Chris stamped his feet and interrupting the judge several times with inane outbursts such as: "I'm famous on the internet!"

	Needless to say, the judge was not impressed with this petulant behavior, and ruled that Chris be held without bond until his preliminary hearing on 16 [[September 2021]].<ref name="initial_trial">[https://dailyprogress.com/community/greenenews/news/internet-personality-chris-chan-in-court-on-incest-charge/article_eaa0710c-f492-11eb-bba8-7f35686d288a.html Greene County Record] [https://web.archive.org/web/20210805180746/https://dailyprogress.com/community/greenenews/news/internet-personality-chris-chan-in-court-on-incest-charge/article_eaa0710c-f492-11eb-bba8-7f35686d288a.html (archive)]</ref>		Needless to say, the judge was not impressed with this petulant behavior, and ruled that Chris be held without bond until his preliminary hearing on 16 [[September 2021]].<ref name="initial_trial">[https://dailyprogress.com/community/greenenews/news/internet-personality-chris-chan-in-court-on-incest-charge/article_eaa0710c-f492-11eb-bba8-7f35686d288a.html Greene County Record] [https://web.archive.org/web/20210805180746/https://dailyprogress.com/community/greenenews/news/internet-personality-chris-chan-in-court-on-incest-charge/article_eaa0710c-f492-11eb-bba8-7f35686d288a.html (archive)]</ref>

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	[[Image:Apology_to_Mary_Lee.jpg\|thumb\|Because "depicting someone you don't like as a comic villain" ranks higher than "disobeying and raging at an authority figure" in terms of regrettable mistakes, according to Chris.]]		[[Image:Apology_to_Mary_Lee.jpg\|thumb\|Because "depicting someone you don't like as a comic villain" ranks higher than "disobeying and raging at an authority figure" in terms of regrettable mistakes, according to Chris.]]

	One of the earliest examples of Chris's attempts at negotiations was in [[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004\|emails]] between [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and himself, shortly after she arranged a meeting to discuss his [[Attraction Sign\|relationship-soliciting]] on campus. Instead of apologizing, Chris vowed to "never hang notes on the wall again", and to consider "stopping my Silent Treatment" of Susan Hannifan, a PVCC Guidance Counselor<ref>[http://www.pvcc.edu/counseling_services/disability_services.php PVCC's website page on their disability services]</ref>, in exchange for letting him continue distributing [[Sonichu%27s News Dash\|his newsletter]] and cancelling the meeting. To further sweeten the deal, Chris offered to "knock[...] [Walsh] and Susan up my [[scale of Respect]] each by 2 points". Ignoring the horrible choice of words in regards to "[[Hanky-panky\|knocking up]]" two of his female superiors, Chris believed that an imaginary measurement of his personal opinion was an extremely important bargaining chip. This is an example of how Chris behaves in negotiations where he wants something from another person - by offering minimal effort on his part, but expecting full returns from the other party~~, even when Chris is in no position to demand anything~~.		One of the earliest examples of Chris's attempts at negotiations was in [[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004\|emails]] between [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and himself, shortly after she arranged a meeting to discuss his [[Attraction Sign\|relationship-soliciting]] on campus. Instead of apologizing, Chris vowed to "never hang notes on the wall again", and to consider "stopping my Silent Treatment" of Susan Hannifan, a PVCC Guidance Counselor<ref>[http://www.pvcc.edu/counseling_services/disability_services.php PVCC's website page on their disability services]</ref>, in exchange for letting him continue distributing [[Sonichu%27s News Dash\|his newsletter]] and cancelling the meeting. To further sweeten the deal, Chris offered to "knock[...] [Walsh] and Susan up my [[scale of Respect]] each by 2 points". Ignoring the horrible choice of words in regards to "[[Hanky-panky\|knocking up]]" two of his female superiors, Chris believed that an imaginary measurement of his personal opinion was an extremely important bargaining chip. This is an example of how Chris behaves in negotiations where he wants something from another person - by offering minimal effort on his part, but expecting full returns from the other party.

	[[2009\|About five years]] after the conflict resulted in temporary expulsion, Chris expressed interest in putting aside his differences with Walsh (after graduating three years prior, mind you). However, rather than admit to repeated misconduct on campus up to and ''including'' aggression towards her, he focused squarely on designing a villain bearing her name as something to be [[Chris and remorse\|remorseful]] of, leading to Chris personally delivering a hand-framed "apology" drawing to the PVCC (when he could have easily tried contacting her by e-mail, provided she hadn't blocked his address).		[[2009\|About five years]] after the conflict resulted in temporary expulsion, Chris expressed interest in putting aside his differences with Walsh (after graduating three years prior, mind you). However, rather than admit to repeated misconduct on campus up to and ''including'' aggression towards her, he focused squarely on designing a villain bearing her name as something to be [[Chris and remorse\|remorseful]] of, leading to Chris personally delivering a hand-framed apology drawing to the PVCC (when he could have easily tried contacting her by e-mail, provided she hadn't blocked his address).

	To make a long story short, Chris expected someone he had ~~a petty grudge on and~~ previously made into his own personal target of revenge fantasy to graciously accept this ludicrous~~, incinsere~~ attempt at reconciliation and [[Mailbag 26#Mary Lee Walsh trolls IRL\|when she inevitably did not, his hatred of her instantly reignited]]. Even that was [[Apology Letters#Mary Lee_Walsh Apology\|not the final time]] he demanded she make peace with him ([[Chris and remorse#Motivation to apologize\|and repeal his ban from the PVCC]]), similarly failing to acknowledge any mistake he had made other than drawing up a malevolent fictional counterpart. This presumably failed to cut ice likewise.		To make a long story short, Chris expected someone he had previously made into his own personal target of revenge fantasy to graciously accept this ludicrous attempt at reconciliation and [[Mailbag 26#Mary Lee Walsh trolls IRL\|when she inevitably did not, his hatred of her instantly reignited]]. Even that was [[Apology Letters#Mary Lee_Walsh Apology\|not the final time]] he demanded she make peace with him ([[Chris and remorse#Motivation to apologize\|and repeal his ban from the PVCC]]), similarly failing to acknowledge any mistake he had made other than drawing up a malevolent fictional counterpart. This presumably failed to cut ice likewise.

	===[[Shigeru Miyamoto]]===		===[[Shigeru Miyamoto]]===

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	[[Image:Apology_to_Mary_Lee.jpg\|thumb\|Because "depicting someone you don't like as a comic villain" ranks higher than "disobeying and raging at an authority figure" in terms of regrettable mistakes, according to Chris.]]		[[Image:Apology_to_Mary_Lee.jpg\|thumb\|Because "depicting someone you don't like as a comic villain" ranks higher than "disobeying and raging at an authority figure" in terms of regrettable mistakes, according to Chris.]]

	One of the earliest examples of Chris's attempts at negotiations was in [[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004\|emails]] between [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and himself, shortly after she arranged a meeting to discuss his [[Attraction Sign\|relationship-soliciting]] on campus. Instead of apologizing, Chris vowed to "never hang notes on the wall again", and to consider "stopping my Silent Treatment" of Susan Hannifan, a PVCC Guidance Counselor<ref>[http://www.pvcc.edu/counseling_services/disability_services.php PVCC's website page on their disability services]</ref>, in exchange for letting him continue distributing [[Sonichu%27s News Dash\|his newsletter]] and cancelling the meeting. To further sweeten the deal, Chris offered to "knock[...] [Walsh] and Susan up my [[scale of Respect]] each by 2 points". Ignoring the horrible choice of words in regards to "[[Hanky-panky\|knocking up]]" two of his female superiors, Chris believed that an imaginary measurement of his personal opinion was an extremely important bargaining chip. This is an example of how Chris behaves in negotiations where he wants something from another person - by offering minimal effort on his part, but expecting full returns from the other party.		One of the earliest examples of Chris's attempts at negotiations was in [[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004\|emails]] between [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and himself, shortly after she arranged a meeting to discuss his [[Attraction Sign\|relationship-soliciting]] on campus. Instead of apologizing, Chris vowed to "never hang notes on the wall again", and to consider "stopping my Silent Treatment" of Susan Hannifan, a PVCC Guidance Counselor<ref>[http://www.pvcc.edu/counseling_services/disability_services.php PVCC's website page on their disability services]</ref>, in exchange for letting him continue distributing [[Sonichu%27s News Dash\|his newsletter]] and cancelling the meeting. To further sweeten the deal, Chris offered to "knock[...] [Walsh] and Susan up my [[scale of Respect]] each by 2 points". Ignoring the horrible choice of words in regards to "[[Hanky-panky\|knocking up]]" two of his female superiors, Chris believed that an imaginary measurement of his personal opinion was an extremely important bargaining chip. This is an example of how Chris behaves in negotiations where he wants something from another person - by offering minimal effort on his part, but expecting full returns from the other party, even when Chris is in no position to demand anything.

	[[2009\|About five years]] after the conflict resulted in temporary expulsion, Chris expressed interest in putting aside his differences with Walsh (after graduating three years prior, mind you). However, rather than admit to repeated misconduct on campus up to and ''including'' aggression towards her, he focused squarely on designing a villain bearing her name as something to be [[Chris and remorse\|remorseful]] of, leading to Chris personally delivering a hand-framed apology drawing to the PVCC (when he could have easily tried contacting her by e-mail, provided she hadn't blocked his address).		[[2009\|About five years]] after the conflict resulted in temporary expulsion, Chris expressed interest in putting aside his differences with Walsh (after graduating three years prior, mind you). However, rather than admit to repeated misconduct on campus up to and ''including'' aggression towards her, he focused squarely on designing a villain bearing her name as something to be [[Chris and remorse\|remorseful]] of, leading to Chris personally delivering a hand-framed "apology" drawing to the PVCC (when he could have easily tried contacting her by e-mail, provided she hadn't blocked his address).

	To make a long story short, Chris expected someone he had previously made into his own personal target of revenge fantasy to graciously accept this ludicrous attempt at reconciliation and [[Mailbag 26#Mary Lee Walsh trolls IRL\|when she inevitably did not, his hatred of her instantly reignited]]. Even that was [[Apology Letters#Mary Lee_Walsh Apology\|not the final time]] he demanded she make peace with him ([[Chris and remorse#Motivation to apologize\|and repeal his ban from the PVCC]]), similarly failing to acknowledge any mistake he had made other than drawing up a malevolent fictional counterpart. This presumably failed to cut ice likewise.		To make a long story short, Chris expected someone he had a petty grudge on and previously made into his own personal target of revenge fantasy to graciously accept this ludicrous, incinsere attempt at reconciliation and [[Mailbag 26#Mary Lee Walsh trolls IRL\|when she inevitably did not, his hatred of her instantly reignited]]. Even that was [[Apology Letters#Mary Lee_Walsh Apology\|not the final time]] he demanded she make peace with him ([[Chris and remorse#Motivation to apologize\|and repeal his ban from the PVCC]]), similarly failing to acknowledge any mistake he had made other than drawing up a malevolent fictional counterpart. This presumably failed to cut ice likewise.

	===[[Shigeru Miyamoto]]===		===[[Shigeru Miyamoto]]===

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	{{quote\|Mary, I've slept on it, and I have realized that note-hanging is not the way to get attention. And I don't really want to meet with either you nor Susan, no offense. I'll tell you what, let's forget the meeting, and if you will allow my newsletter to stay in distribution, I will do all of the following: <br>-I will never hang notes on the wall again. <br>-I'll consider stopping my Silent Treatment on Susan.<br>-I'll consider knocking you and Susan up my scale of Respect each by 2 points (0<nowiki>=</nowiki>No Respect...10<nowiki>=</nowiki>Respect).\|<ref>[[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004\|emails]]</ref>}}		{{quote\|Mary, I've slept on it, and I have realized that note-hanging is not the way to get attention. And I don't really want to meet with either you nor Susan, no offense. I'll tell you what, let's forget the meeting, and if you will allow my newsletter to stay in distribution, I will do all of the following: <br>-I will never hang notes on the wall again. <br>-I'll consider stopping my Silent Treatment on Susan.<br>-I'll consider knocking you and Susan up my scale of Respect each by 2 points (0<nowiki>=</nowiki>No Respect...10<nowiki>=</nowiki>Respect).\|<ref>[[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004\|emails]]</ref>}}

	[[Image:Apology_to_Mary_Lee.jpg\|thumb\|Because "depicting someone you don't like as a comic villain" ranks higher than "disobeying and raging at an authority figure" in terms of ~~wrongdoings to make up for~~, according to Chris]]		[[Image:Apology_to_Mary_Lee.jpg\|thumb\|Because "depicting someone you don't like as a comic villain" ranks higher than "disobeying and raging at an authority figure" in terms of regrettable mistakes, according to Chris]]
	One of the earliest examples of Chris's attempts at negotiations was in [[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004\|emails]] between [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and himself, shortly after she arranged a meeting to discuss his [[Attraction Sign\|relationship-soliciting]] on campus. Instead of apologizing, Chris vowed to "never hang notes on the wall again", and to consider "stopping my Silent Treatment" of Susan Hannifan, a PVCC Guidance Counselor<ref>[http://www.pvcc.edu/counseling_services/disability_services.php PVCC's website page on their disability services]</ref>, in exchange for letting him continue distributing [[Sonichu%27s News Dash\|his newsletter]] and cancelling the meeting. To further sweeten the deal, Chris offered to "knock[...] [Walsh] and Susan up my [[scale of Respect]] each by 2 points". Ignoring the horrible choice of words in regards to "[[Hanky-panky\|knocking up]]" two of his female superiors, Chris believed that an imaginary measurement of his personal opinion was an extremely important bargaining chip. This is an example of how Chris behaves in negotiations where he wants something from another person - by offering minimal effort on his part, but expecting full returns from the other party.		One of the earliest examples of Chris's attempts at negotiations was in [[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004\|emails]] between [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and himself, shortly after she arranged a meeting to discuss his [[Attraction Sign\|relationship-soliciting]] on campus. Instead of apologizing, Chris vowed to "never hang notes on the wall again", and to consider "stopping my Silent Treatment" of Susan Hannifan, a PVCC Guidance Counselor<ref>[http://www.pvcc.edu/counseling_services/disability_services.php PVCC's website page on their disability services]</ref>, in exchange for letting him continue distributing [[Sonichu%27s News Dash\|his newsletter]] and cancelling the meeting. To further sweeten the deal, Chris offered to "knock[...] [Walsh] and Susan up my [[scale of Respect]] each by 2 points". Ignoring the horrible choice of words in regards to "[[Hanky-panky\|knocking up]]" two of his female superiors, Chris believed that an imaginary measurement of his personal opinion was an extremely important bargaining chip. This is an example of how Chris behaves in negotiations where he wants something from another person - by offering minimal effort on his part, but expecting full returns from the other party.

	[[2009\|About five years]] after the conflict resulted in temporary expulsion, Chris expressed interest in putting aside his differences with Walsh (after graduating three years prior, mind you). However, rather than admit to repeated misconduct on campus up to and ''including'' aggression towards her, he focused squarely on designing a villain bearing her name as something to be [[Chris and remorse\|remorseful]] of, leading to Chris personally delivering a hand-framed apology drawing to the PVCC (when he could have easily tried contacting her by e-mail, provided she hadn't ~~previously~~ blocked ~~him~~).		[[2009\|About five years]] after the conflict resulted in temporary expulsion, Chris expressed interest in putting aside his differences with Walsh (after graduating three years prior, mind you). However, rather than admit to repeated misconduct on campus up to and ''including'' aggression towards her, he focused squarely on designing a villain bearing her name as something to be [[Chris and remorse\|remorseful]] of, leading to Chris personally delivering a hand-framed apology drawing to the PVCC (when he could have easily tried contacting her by e-mail, provided she hadn't blocked his address).

	To make a long story short, Chris expected someone he had previously made into his own personal target of revenge fantasy to graciously accept this ludicrous attempt at reconciliation and [[Mailbag 26#Mary Lee Walsh trolls IRL\|when she inevitably did not, his hatred of her instantly reignited]]. Even that was [[Apology Letters#Mary Lee_Walsh Apology\|not the final time]] he demanded she make peace with him, similarly failing to acknowledge any mistake he had made other than drawing up a malevolent fictional counterpart. This presumably ~~did not~~ cut ice likewise.		To make a long story short, Chris expected someone he had previously made into his own personal target of revenge fantasy to graciously accept this ludicrous attempt at reconciliation and [[Mailbag 26#Mary Lee Walsh trolls IRL\|when she inevitably did not, his hatred of her instantly reignited]]. Even that was [[Apology Letters#Mary Lee_Walsh Apology\|not the final time]] he demanded she make peace with him ([[Chris and remorse#Motivation to apologize\|and repeal his ban from the PVCC]]), similarly failing to acknowledge any mistake he had made other than drawing up a malevolent fictional counterpart. This presumably failed to cut ice likewise.

	===[[Shigeru Miyamoto]]===		===[[Shigeru Miyamoto]]===
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	Later, during the "popularity contest" between ''[[Sonichu (comic)\|Sonichu]]'' and ''[[Asperchu]]'', he tried to make amends with [[Alec Benson Leary]] to remove ''Asperchu'' ads from the front page of the CWCipedia. However, instead of making reparations, Chris demanded that Alec tell his fans to go back to ''Sonichu''. Chris, who was in no position to make requests, attached several "clauses" to his apologies. Chris's list of demands was larger than the apology they were bundled with. All of this came after Chris drew a comic where he broke into Alec's house, stole a dating game from his [[Xbox\|Xbox 360]], blew up said Xbox, and freed a group of [[Rosechu (species)\|Rosechus]] that he implied were the victims of sexual abuse. After finally fulfilling most of Alec's requests in a substandard and slapdash manner, Chris killed him, his webmaster and two other comic artists in [[Sonichu 10\|''Sonichu'' #10]] as some sort of childish form of revenge.		Later, during the "popularity contest" between ''[[Sonichu (comic)\|Sonichu]]'' and ''[[Asperchu]]'', he tried to make amends with [[Alec Benson Leary]] to remove ''Asperchu'' ads from the front page of the CWCipedia. However, instead of making reparations, Chris demanded that Alec tell his fans to go back to ''Sonichu''. Chris, who was in no position to make requests, attached several "clauses" to his apologies. Chris's list of demands was larger than the apology they were bundled with. All of this came after Chris drew a comic where he broke into Alec's house, stole a dating game from his [[Xbox\|Xbox 360]], blew up said Xbox, and freed a group of [[Rosechu (species)\|Rosechus]] that he implied were the victims of sexual abuse. After finally fulfilling most of Alec's requests in a substandard and slapdash manner, Chris killed him, his webmaster and two other comic artists in [[Sonichu 10\|''Sonichu'' #10]] as some sort of childish form of revenge.

	~~===Simonla===~~
	[[Evan]] created Simonchu as a joke, giving permission to use him in the comic, but then Chris decided to instead make his own female version named [[Simonla Rosechu]]. This (along with [[Mailbag 21#Why no Tails\|Chris openly lying that he was given permission to alter the character]]) roused Evan's ire considerably and started a long fight for the future of a recolor OC. Evan demanded that Chris remove Simonla from the comic and Chris, naturally, was tenacious in his attempts to prevent Simonla from meeting her untimely demise. At first, Chris simply ignored Evan's orders. Then ([[Mailbag 44#I want to see Simonla die so very badly\|after plans to include Simonchu as Simonla's brother didn't appease Evan]]) Chris later contrived a new excuse to disregard the wishes of a perceived foe and keep what rightfully wasn't his: [[Chris and reality\|that Simonla was happily living in CWCville with a boyfriend and it would be a cruel violation of her rights to kill her for good]].

	Evan gave further demands but Chris continued to dig in his heels, even [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2\|nonchalantly explaining his egocentric delusions to]] [[Alec Benson Leary]] (who was dealing with Chris's domineering attitude toward the [[CWCipedia]] as was) in an attempt to justify sparing a stolen OC. Only when the CWCipedia was shut down by force did Chris ''finally'' budge and even then, his compliance amounted to no more than a toilet explosion as her cause of death. And to say nothing of the "revenge" Chris graphically dished out to a fictionalized portrayal of Evan afterwards.

	===[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]===		===[[Michael Snyder is ColdHearted and Mean]]===
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	Needless to say, the judge was not impressed with this petulant behavior, and ruled that Chris be held without bond until his preliminary hearing on 16 [[September 2021]].<ref name="initial_trial">[https://dailyprogress.com/community/greenenews/news/internet-personality-chris-chan-in-court-on-incest-charge/article_eaa0710c-f492-11eb-bba8-7f35686d288a.html Greene County Record] [https://web.archive.org/web/20210805180746/https://dailyprogress.com/community/greenenews/news/internet-personality-chris-chan-in-court-on-incest-charge/article_eaa0710c-f492-11eb-bba8-7f35686d288a.html (archive)]</ref>		Needless to say, the judge was not impressed with this petulant behavior, and ruled that Chris be held without bond until his preliminary hearing on 16 [[September 2021]].<ref name="initial_trial">[https://dailyprogress.com/community/greenenews/news/internet-personality-chris-chan-in-court-on-incest-charge/article_eaa0710c-f492-11eb-bba8-7f35686d288a.html Greene County Record] [https://web.archive.org/web/20210805180746/https://dailyprogress.com/community/greenenews/news/internet-personality-chris-chan-in-court-on-incest-charge/article_eaa0710c-f492-11eb-bba8-7f35686d288a.html (archive)]</ref>

			==Attempted Negotiations with Chris==
			===Simonla===
			[[Evan]] created Simonchu as a joke, giving permission to use him in the comic, but then Chris decided to instead make his own female version named [[Simonla Rosechu]]. This (along with [[Mailbag 21#Why no Tails\|Chris openly lying that he was given permission to alter the character]]) roused Evan's ire considerably and started a long fight for the future of a recolor OC. Evan demanded that Chris remove Simonla from the comic and Chris, naturally, was tenacious in his attempts to prevent Simonla from meeting her untimely demise. At first, Chris simply ignored Evan's orders. Then ([[Mailbag 44#I want to see Simonla die so very badly\|after plans to include Simonchu as Simonla's brother didn't appease Evan]]) Chris later contrived a new excuse to disregard the wishes of a perceived foe and keep what rightfully wasn't his: [[Chris and reality\|that Simonla was happily living in CWCville with a boyfriend and it would be a cruel violation of her rights to kill her for good]].

			Evan gave further demands but Chris continued to dig in his heels, even [[Alec Benson Leary Phone Call 2\|nonchalantly explaining his egocentric delusions to]] [[Alec Benson Leary]] in an attempt to justify sparing a stolen OC. Only after considerable arguments and the [[CWCipedia]] eventually getting shut down by force did Chris ''finally'' budge and even then, it amounted to no more than a toilet explosion as her cause of death. And to say nothing of the "revenge" Chris graphically dished out to a fictionalized portrayal of Evan afterwards.

	==Chris's tactics==		==Chris's tactics==

FurryChristorian789: Added the needed information.

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Added the needed information.

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	{{quote\|Shut Up and Buy My Toys, please.\|Chris, to a potential customer.<ref>[[April 2018 social media posts#Autographs removed from toys]]</ref>}}		{{quote\|Shut Up and Buy My Toys, please.\|Chris, to a potential customer.<ref>[[April 2018 social media posts#Autographs removed from toys]]</ref>}}

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	Other times, Chris just asks whoever he has bothered if both of them can just "forgive and forget". He said this to Michael Snyder when asking about being unbanned from [[The GAMe PLACe]] two years after his original ban. That may be somewhat understandable, but Chris also tried this same excuse a day after he doxed [[Mr. Smith]].		Other times, Chris just asks whoever he has bothered if both of them can just "forgive and forget". He said this to Michael Snyder when asking about being unbanned from [[The GAMe PLACe]] two years after his original ban. That may be somewhat understandable, but Chris also tried this same excuse a day after he doxed [[Mr. Smith]].

			It's worth stating that Chris once claimed [[Bob Chandler\|Bob]] was "a very strong negotiator" and that [[Barbara Chandler\|Barb]] "used to have better negotiation skills"<ref>[[The Place chats - ProjectSNT and Opuscon789#Browsing Kiwi Farms]]</ref>. Given their history of [[Mailbag 18#Instead the courts were on the side of justice\|feuds]] [[Nathanael Greene Elementary School#The_aftermath\|with]] [[The GAMe PLACe#Chris Gets the Boot\|authority]] on Chris's behalf, it's safe to assume where his approach to conflict-solving (and that's putting it charitably) had come from.

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	===[[Unban contracts]]===		===[[Unban contracts]]===
			[[Image:Gamestop 02.jpg\|thumb\|Notice the small print, wherein Chris accidentally gives [[Manajerks]] further reason to keep him out of their establishments]]
	In [[October 2016]], Chris delivered contracts to at least two stores (Gamestop and Best Buy) from which he was banned. In these contracts (which were likely not signed), he puts in a clause stating the stores in question can't call the [[JERKOPS\|police]] against him (making the contract null and void, since contracts can't protect against prosecution.) He also wants the managers to "forgive and forget," and claims that not signing proves they are "most uncompassionate and lacking of heart and soul of any person."		In [[October 2016]], Chris delivered contracts to at least two stores (Gamestop and Best Buy) from which he was banned. In these contracts (which were likely not signed), he puts in a clause stating the stores in question can't call the [[JERKOPS\|police]] against him (making the contract null and void, since contracts can't protect against prosecution.) He also wants the managers to "forgive and forget," and claims that not signing proves they are "most uncompassionate and lacking of heart and soul of any person."

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Chris's Attempted Negotiations

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	{{quote\|Mary, I've slept on it, and I have realized that note-hanging is not the way to get attention. And I don't really want to meet with either you nor Susan, no offense. I'll tell you what, let's forget the meeting, and if you will allow my newsletter to stay in distribution, I will do all of the following: <br>-I will never hang notes on the wall again. <br>-I'll consider stopping my Silent Treatment on Susan.<br>-I'll consider knocking you and Susan up my scale of Respect each by 2 points (0<nowiki>=</nowiki>No Respect...10<nowiki>=</nowiki>Respect).\|<ref>[[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004\|emails]]</ref>}}		{{quote\|Mary, I've slept on it, and I have realized that note-hanging is not the way to get attention. And I don't really want to meet with either you nor Susan, no offense. I'll tell you what, let's forget the meeting, and if you will allow my newsletter to stay in distribution, I will do all of the following: <br>-I will never hang notes on the wall again. <br>-I'll consider stopping my Silent Treatment on Susan.<br>-I'll consider knocking you and Susan up my scale of Respect each by 2 points (0<nowiki>=</nowiki>No Respect...10<nowiki>=</nowiki>Respect).\|<ref>[[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004\|emails]]</ref>}}

			[[Image:Apology_to_Mary_Lee.jpg\|thumb\|Because "depicting someone you don't like as a comic villain" ranks higher than "disobeying and raging at an authority figure" in terms of wrongdoings to make up for, according to Chris]]
	One of the earliest examples of Chris's attempts at negotiations was in [[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004\|emails]] between [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and himself, shortly after she arranged a meeting to discuss his [[Attraction Sign\|relationship-soliciting]] on campus. Instead of apologizing, Chris vowed to "never hang notes on the wall again", and to consider "stopping my Silent Treatment" of Susan Hannifan, a PVCC Guidance Counselor<ref>[http://www.pvcc.edu/counseling_services/disability_services.php PVCC's website page on their disability services]</ref>, in exchange for letting him continue distributing [[Sonichu%27s News Dash\|his newsletter]] and cancelling the meeting. To further sweeten the deal, Chris offered to "knock[...] [Walsh] and Susan up my [[scale of Respect]] each by 2 points". Ignoring the horrible choice of words in regards to "[[Hanky-panky\|knocking up]]" two of his female superiors, Chris believed that an imaginary measurement of his personal opinion was an extremely important bargaining chip. This is an example of how Chris behaves in negotiations where he wants something from another person - by offering minimal effort on his part, but expecting full returns from the other party.		One of the earliest examples of Chris's attempts at negotiations was in [[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004\|emails]] between [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and himself, shortly after she arranged a meeting to discuss his [[Attraction Sign\|relationship-soliciting]] on campus. Instead of apologizing, Chris vowed to "never hang notes on the wall again", and to consider "stopping my Silent Treatment" of Susan Hannifan, a PVCC Guidance Counselor<ref>[http://www.pvcc.edu/counseling_services/disability_services.php PVCC's website page on their disability services]</ref>, in exchange for letting him continue distributing [[Sonichu%27s News Dash\|his newsletter]] and cancelling the meeting. To further sweeten the deal, Chris offered to "knock[...] [Walsh] and Susan up my [[scale of Respect]] each by 2 points". Ignoring the horrible choice of words in regards to "[[Hanky-panky\|knocking up]]" two of his female superiors, Chris believed that an imaginary measurement of his personal opinion was an extremely important bargaining chip. This is an example of how Chris behaves in negotiations where he wants something from another person - by offering minimal effort on his part, but expecting full returns from the other party.

			[[2009\|About five years]] after the conflict resulted in temporary expulsion, Chris expressed interest in putting aside his differences with Walsh (after graduating three years prior, mind you). However, rather than admit to repeated misconduct on campus up to and ''including'' aggression towards her, he focused squarely on designing a villain bearing her name as something to be [[Chris and remorse\|remorseful]] of, leading to Chris personally delivering a hand-framed apology drawing to the PVCC (when he could have easily tried contacting her by e-mail, provided she hadn't previously blocked him).

			To make a long story short, Chris expected someone he had previously made into his own personal target of revenge fantasy to graciously accept this ludicrous attempt at reconciliation and [[Mailbag 26#Mary Lee Walsh trolls IRL\|when she inevitably did not, his hatred of her instantly reignited]]. Even that was [[Apology Letters#Mary Lee_Walsh Apology\|not the final time]] he demanded she make peace with him, similarly failing to acknowledge any mistake he had made other than drawing up a malevolent fictional counterpart. This presumably did not cut ice likewise.

	===[[Shigeru Miyamoto]]===		===[[Shigeru Miyamoto]]===

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Concept of compromise

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	On numerous occasions, Chris has tried to negotiate either by making ridiculous demands or outright refusing to give anything up (or do anything at all for that matter). After he makes his case, his mind is "closed on the matter" and he is unwilling to budge. When further pressed, he often shuts down completely and walks away from the table, into the waiting arms of his [[PlayStation 3]].		On numerous occasions, Chris has tried to negotiate either by making ridiculous demands or outright refusing to give anything up (or do anything at all for that matter). After he makes his case, his mind is "closed on the matter" and he is unwilling to budge. When further pressed, he often shuts down completely and walks away from the table, into the waiting arms of his [[PlayStation 3]].

	Other times, Chris just asks whoever he has bothered if both of them can just "forgive and forget". He said this to Michael Snyder when asking about being unbanned from [[The GAMe PLACe]] two years after his original ban. That may be somewhat understandable, but Chris also tried this same excuse a day after he ~~doxxed~~ [[Mr. Smith]].		Other times, Chris just asks whoever he has bothered if both of them can just "forgive and forget". He said this to Michael Snyder when asking about being unbanned from [[The GAMe PLACe]] two years after his original ban. That may be somewhat understandable, but Chris also tried this same excuse a day after he doxed [[Mr. Smith]].

	==Chris's Attempted Negotiations==		==Chris's Attempted Negotiations==

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	[[Image:Apology_to_Mary_Lee.jpg\|thumb\|Because "depicting someone you don't like as a comic villain" ranks higher than "disobeying and raging at an authority figure" in terms of regrettable mistakes, according to Chris.]]		[[Image:Apology_to_Mary_Lee.jpg\|thumb\|Because "depicting someone you don't like as a comic villain" ranks higher than "disobeying and raging at an authority figure" in terms of regrettable mistakes, according to Chris.]]

	One of the earliest examples of Chris's attempts at negotiations was in [[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004\|emails]] between [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and himself, shortly after she arranged a meeting to discuss his [[Attraction Sign\|relationship-soliciting]] on campus. Instead of apologizing, Chris vowed to "never hang notes on the wall again", and to consider "stopping my Silent Treatment" of Susan Hannifan, a PVCC Guidance Counselor<ref>[http://www.pvcc.edu/counseling_services/disability_services.php PVCC's website page on their disability services]</ref>, in exchange for letting him continue distributing [[Sonichu%27s News Dash\|his newsletter]] and cancelling the meeting. To further sweeten the deal, Chris offered to "knock[...] [Walsh] and Susan up my [[scale of Respect]] each by 2 points". Ignoring the horrible choice of words in regards to "[[Hanky-panky\|knocking up]]" two of his female superiors, Chris believed that an imaginary measurement of his personal opinion was an extremely important bargaining chip. This is an example of how Chris behaves in negotiations where he wants something from another person - by offering minimal effort on his part, but expecting full returns from the other party~~, even when Chris is in no position to demand anything~~.		One of the earliest examples of Chris's attempts at negotiations was in [[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004\|emails]] between [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and himself, shortly after she arranged a meeting to discuss his [[Attraction Sign\|relationship-soliciting]] on campus. Instead of apologizing, Chris vowed to "never hang notes on the wall again", and to consider "stopping my Silent Treatment" of Susan Hannifan, a PVCC Guidance Counselor<ref>[http://www.pvcc.edu/counseling_services/disability_services.php PVCC's website page on their disability services]</ref>, in exchange for letting him continue distributing [[Sonichu%27s News Dash\|his newsletter]] and cancelling the meeting. To further sweeten the deal, Chris offered to "knock[...] [Walsh] and Susan up my [[scale of Respect]] each by 2 points". Ignoring the horrible choice of words in regards to "[[Hanky-panky\|knocking up]]" two of his female superiors, Chris believed that an imaginary measurement of his personal opinion was an extremely important bargaining chip. This is an example of how Chris behaves in negotiations where he wants something from another person - by offering minimal effort on his part, but expecting full returns from the other party.

	[[2009\|About five years]] after the conflict resulted in temporary expulsion, Chris expressed interest in putting aside his differences with Walsh (after graduating three years prior, mind you). However, rather than admit to repeated misconduct on campus up to and ''including'' aggression towards her, he focused squarely on designing a villain bearing her name as something to be [[Chris and remorse\|remorseful]] of, leading to Chris personally delivering a hand-framed "apology" drawing to the PVCC (when he could have easily tried contacting her by e-mail, provided she hadn't blocked his address).		[[2009\|About five years]] after the conflict resulted in temporary expulsion, Chris expressed interest in putting aside his differences with Walsh (after graduating three years prior, mind you). However, rather than admit to repeated misconduct on campus up to and ''including'' aggression towards her, he focused squarely on designing a villain bearing her name as something to be [[Chris and remorse\|remorseful]] of, leading to Chris personally delivering a hand-framed apology drawing to the PVCC (when he could have easily tried contacting her by e-mail, provided she hadn't blocked his address).

	To make a long story short, Chris expected someone he had ~~a petty grudge on and~~ previously made into his own personal target of revenge fantasy to graciously accept this ludicrous~~, incinsere~~ attempt at reconciliation and [[Mailbag 26#Mary Lee Walsh trolls IRL\|when she inevitably did not, his hatred of her instantly reignited]]. Even that was [[Apology Letters#Mary Lee_Walsh Apology\|not the final time]] he demanded she make peace with him ([[Chris and remorse#Motivation to apologize\|and repeal his ban from the PVCC]]), similarly failing to acknowledge any mistake he had made other than drawing up a malevolent fictional counterpart. This presumably failed to cut ice likewise.		To make a long story short, Chris expected someone he had previously made into his own personal target of revenge fantasy to graciously accept this ludicrous attempt at reconciliation and [[Mailbag 26#Mary Lee Walsh trolls IRL\|when she inevitably did not, his hatred of her instantly reignited]]. Even that was [[Apology Letters#Mary Lee_Walsh Apology\|not the final time]] he demanded she make peace with him ([[Chris and remorse#Motivation to apologize\|and repeal his ban from the PVCC]]), similarly failing to acknowledge any mistake he had made other than drawing up a malevolent fictional counterpart. This presumably failed to cut ice likewise.

	===[[Shigeru Miyamoto]]===		===[[Shigeru Miyamoto]]===

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	[[Image:Apology_to_Mary_Lee.jpg\|thumb\|Because "depicting someone you don't like as a comic villain" ranks higher than "disobeying and raging at an authority figure" in terms of regrettable mistakes, according to Chris.]]		[[Image:Apology_to_Mary_Lee.jpg\|thumb\|Because "depicting someone you don't like as a comic villain" ranks higher than "disobeying and raging at an authority figure" in terms of regrettable mistakes, according to Chris.]]

	One of the earliest examples of Chris's attempts at negotiations was in [[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004\|emails]] between [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and himself, shortly after she arranged a meeting to discuss his [[Attraction Sign\|relationship-soliciting]] on campus. Instead of apologizing, Chris vowed to "never hang notes on the wall again", and to consider "stopping my Silent Treatment" of Susan Hannifan, a PVCC Guidance Counselor<ref>[http://www.pvcc.edu/counseling_services/disability_services.php PVCC's website page on their disability services]</ref>, in exchange for letting him continue distributing [[Sonichu%27s News Dash\|his newsletter]] and cancelling the meeting. To further sweeten the deal, Chris offered to "knock[...] [Walsh] and Susan up my [[scale of Respect]] each by 2 points". Ignoring the horrible choice of words in regards to "[[Hanky-panky\|knocking up]]" two of his female superiors, Chris believed that an imaginary measurement of his personal opinion was an extremely important bargaining chip. This is an example of how Chris behaves in negotiations where he wants something from another person - by offering minimal effort on his part, but expecting full returns from the other party.		One of the earliest examples of Chris's attempts at negotiations was in [[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004\|emails]] between [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and himself, shortly after she arranged a meeting to discuss his [[Attraction Sign\|relationship-soliciting]] on campus. Instead of apologizing, Chris vowed to "never hang notes on the wall again", and to consider "stopping my Silent Treatment" of Susan Hannifan, a PVCC Guidance Counselor<ref>[http://www.pvcc.edu/counseling_services/disability_services.php PVCC's website page on their disability services]</ref>, in exchange for letting him continue distributing [[Sonichu%27s News Dash\|his newsletter]] and cancelling the meeting. To further sweeten the deal, Chris offered to "knock[...] [Walsh] and Susan up my [[scale of Respect]] each by 2 points". Ignoring the horrible choice of words in regards to "[[Hanky-panky\|knocking up]]" two of his female superiors, Chris believed that an imaginary measurement of his personal opinion was an extremely important bargaining chip. This is an example of how Chris behaves in negotiations where he wants something from another person - by offering minimal effort on his part, but expecting full returns from the other party, even when Chris is in no position to demand anything.

	[[2009\|About five years]] after the conflict resulted in temporary expulsion, Chris expressed interest in putting aside his differences with Walsh (after graduating three years prior, mind you). However, rather than admit to repeated misconduct on campus up to and ''including'' aggression towards her, he focused squarely on designing a villain bearing her name as something to be [[Chris and remorse\|remorseful]] of, leading to Chris personally delivering a hand-framed apology drawing to the PVCC (when he could have easily tried contacting her by e-mail, provided she hadn't blocked his address).		[[2009\|About five years]] after the conflict resulted in temporary expulsion, Chris expressed interest in putting aside his differences with Walsh (after graduating three years prior, mind you). However, rather than admit to repeated misconduct on campus up to and ''including'' aggression towards her, he focused squarely on designing a villain bearing her name as something to be [[Chris and remorse\|remorseful]] of, leading to Chris personally delivering a hand-framed "apology" drawing to the PVCC (when he could have easily tried contacting her by e-mail, provided she hadn't blocked his address).

	To make a long story short, Chris expected someone he had previously made into his own personal target of revenge fantasy to graciously accept this ludicrous attempt at reconciliation and [[Mailbag 26#Mary Lee Walsh trolls IRL\|when she inevitably did not, his hatred of her instantly reignited]]. Even that was [[Apology Letters#Mary Lee_Walsh Apology\|not the final time]] he demanded she make peace with him ([[Chris and remorse#Motivation to apologize\|and repeal his ban from the PVCC]]), similarly failing to acknowledge any mistake he had made other than drawing up a malevolent fictional counterpart. This presumably failed to cut ice likewise.		To make a long story short, Chris expected someone he had a petty grudge on and previously made into his own personal target of revenge fantasy to graciously accept this ludicrous, incinsere attempt at reconciliation and [[Mailbag 26#Mary Lee Walsh trolls IRL\|when she inevitably did not, his hatred of her instantly reignited]]. Even that was [[Apology Letters#Mary Lee_Walsh Apology\|not the final time]] he demanded she make peace with him ([[Chris and remorse#Motivation to apologize\|and repeal his ban from the PVCC]]), similarly failing to acknowledge any mistake he had made other than drawing up a malevolent fictional counterpart. This presumably failed to cut ice likewise.

	===[[Shigeru Miyamoto]]===		===[[Shigeru Miyamoto]]===

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	{{quote\|Mary, I've slept on it, and I have realized that note-hanging is not the way to get attention. And I don't really want to meet with either you nor Susan, no offense. I'll tell you what, let's forget the meeting, and if you will allow my newsletter to stay in distribution, I will do all of the following: <br>-I will never hang notes on the wall again. <br>-I'll consider stopping my Silent Treatment on Susan.<br>-I'll consider knocking you and Susan up my scale of Respect each by 2 points (0<nowiki>=</nowiki>No Respect...10<nowiki>=</nowiki>Respect).\|<ref>[[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004\|emails]]</ref>}}		{{quote\|Mary, I've slept on it, and I have realized that note-hanging is not the way to get attention. And I don't really want to meet with either you nor Susan, no offense. I'll tell you what, let's forget the meeting, and if you will allow my newsletter to stay in distribution, I will do all of the following: <br>-I will never hang notes on the wall again. <br>-I'll consider stopping my Silent Treatment on Susan.<br>-I'll consider knocking you and Susan up my scale of Respect each by 2 points (0<nowiki>=</nowiki>No Respect...10<nowiki>=</nowiki>Respect).\|<ref>[[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004\|emails]]</ref>}}

			[[Image:Apology_to_Mary_Lee.jpg\|thumb\|Because "depicting someone you don't like as a comic villain" ranks higher than "disobeying and raging at an authority figure" in terms of wrongdoings to make up for, according to Chris]]
	One of the earliest examples of Chris's attempts at negotiations was in [[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004\|emails]] between [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and himself, shortly after she arranged a meeting to discuss his [[Attraction Sign\|relationship-soliciting]] on campus. Instead of apologizing, Chris vowed to "never hang notes on the wall again", and to consider "stopping my Silent Treatment" of Susan Hannifan, a PVCC Guidance Counselor<ref>[http://www.pvcc.edu/counseling_services/disability_services.php PVCC's website page on their disability services]</ref>, in exchange for letting him continue distributing [[Sonichu%27s News Dash\|his newsletter]] and cancelling the meeting. To further sweeten the deal, Chris offered to "knock[...] [Walsh] and Susan up my [[scale of Respect]] each by 2 points". Ignoring the horrible choice of words in regards to "[[Hanky-panky\|knocking up]]" two of his female superiors, Chris believed that an imaginary measurement of his personal opinion was an extremely important bargaining chip. This is an example of how Chris behaves in negotiations where he wants something from another person - by offering minimal effort on his part, but expecting full returns from the other party.		One of the earliest examples of Chris's attempts at negotiations was in [[Chris emails 2004-2006#February 2004\|emails]] between [[Mary Lee Walsh]] and himself, shortly after she arranged a meeting to discuss his [[Attraction Sign\|relationship-soliciting]] on campus. Instead of apologizing, Chris vowed to "never hang notes on the wall again", and to consider "stopping my Silent Treatment" of Susan Hannifan, a PVCC Guidance Counselor<ref>[http://www.pvcc.edu/counseling_services/disability_services.php PVCC's website page on their disability services]</ref>, in exchange for letting him continue distributing [[Sonichu%27s News Dash\|his newsletter]] and cancelling the meeting. To further sweeten the deal, Chris offered to "knock[...] [Walsh] and Susan up my [[scale of Respect]] each by 2 points". Ignoring the horrible choice of words in regards to "[[Hanky-panky\|knocking up]]" two of his female superiors, Chris believed that an imaginary measurement of his personal opinion was an extremely important bargaining chip. This is an example of how Chris behaves in negotiations where he wants something from another person - by offering minimal effort on his part, but expecting full returns from the other party.

			[[2009\|About five years]] after the conflict resulted in temporary expulsion, Chris expressed interest in putting aside his differences with Walsh (after graduating three years prior, mind you). However, rather than admit to repeated misconduct on campus up to and ''including'' aggression towards her, he focused squarely on designing a villain bearing her name as something to be [[Chris and remorse\|remorseful]] of, leading to Chris personally delivering a hand-framed apology drawing to the PVCC (when he could have easily tried contacting her by e-mail, provided she hadn't previously blocked him).

			To make a long story short, Chris expected someone he had previously made into his own personal target of revenge fantasy to graciously accept this ludicrous attempt at reconciliation and [[Mailbag 26#Mary Lee Walsh trolls IRL\|when she inevitably did not, his hatred of her instantly reignited]]. Even that was [[Apology Letters#Mary Lee_Walsh Apology\|not the final time]] he demanded she make peace with him, similarly failing to acknowledge any mistake he had made other than drawing up a malevolent fictional counterpart. This presumably did not cut ice likewise.

	===[[Shigeru Miyamoto]]===		===[[Shigeru Miyamoto]]===