Nathanael Greene Elementary School - Revision history

Hurtful Truth Level: /* Chris's other side of the story */

2025-12-07T16:06:38Z

Chris's other side of the story

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	In an IRC chat from around the same time, Chris had more to say about Principal Johnson, as well as his father's campaign against the school board that later ensued.		In an IRC chat from around the same time, Chris had more to say about Principal Johnson, as well as his father's campaign against the school board that later ensued.

	{{quote\|Back in my Green County Days, The Principle of the Nathanel Greene Elemetary School, Dr. Johnson, was a Homo, and when I was sent to his office; he picked me up, set me on his lap, then I would always get off his lap, because I ALWAYS HATED that; I felt bad vibes back then. Fortunately, it has never gone beyond that, and my father caught his intentions on that, and the Court Battles Started. He likely exagerates, but my father knew that there were a bunch of homos within that school board, and that was why they hated me and my family, in addition to those people not understanding Autism. Anyway, from those past memories, that is why I have grown up to Rarely Associate with men, and why I DESPIE THE HOMOS the Worst.\|Chris, on IRC, circa 21 January 2009.}}		{{quote\|Back in my Green County Days, The Principle of the Nathanel Greene Elemetary School, Dr. Johnson, was a Homo, and when I was sent to his office; he picked me up, set me on his lap, then I would always get off his lap, because I ALWAYS HATED that; I felt bad vibes back then. Fortunately, it has never gone beyond that, and my father caught his intentions on that, and the Court Battles Started. He likely exagerates, but my father knew that there were a bunch of homos within that school board, and that was why they hated me and my family, in addition to those people not understanding Autism. Anyway, from those past memories, that is why I have grown up to Rarely Associate with men, and why I DESPIE THE HOMOS the Worst.\|Chris, on IRC, circa 21 January 2009.<ref>[[IRC (21 January 2009)]]</ref>}}
	[[File:Asperchu Principal Parody.JPG\|thumb\|left\|After he told Alec in that phone call, it was parodied in [[Asperchu]]]]		[[File:Asperchu Principal Parody.JPG\|thumb\|left\|After he told Alec in that phone call, it was parodied in [[Asperchu]]]]

Dodo Conservative: /* The aftermath */

2025-12-07T00:43:12Z

The aftermath

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	After pulling Chris out of Nathanael Greene, [[Bob Chandler]] unsuccessfully took legal action against the school district. His case was eventually dropped in 1994. In 1993, Chris's family moved him away to the Richmond suburbs in order to keep him in mainstream classrooms, a crucial step in the development of the Chris we know and love today.		After pulling Chris out of Nathanael Greene, [[Bob Chandler]] unsuccessfully took legal action against the school district. His case was eventually dropped in 1994. In 1993, Chris's family moved him away to the Richmond suburbs in order to keep him in mainstream classrooms, a crucial step in the development of the Chris we know and love today.

	In subsequent years, Chris has taken the notion ~~(which probably originated with his father)~~ of an autism-hating homosexual conspiracy to drive him from the school system and inflated it into something even more unlikely. In a [[100 2178\|May 2010 YouTube video]] he imagines that they were also responsible for forcing him to move away from his high-school friends in Richmond and getting him kicked out of [[The GAMe PLACe]].		In subsequent years, Chris has taken the notion of an autism-hating homosexual conspiracy to drive him from the school system and inflated it into something even more unlikely. In a [[100 2178\|May 2010 YouTube video]] he imagines that they were also responsible for forcing him to move away from his high-school friends in Richmond and getting him kicked out of [[The GAMe PLACe]].

	The decision to mainstream Chris at all costs is perhaps the most significant turning point in his development. Had he received an education more effectively tailored to his needs and learned more about his condition beyond how to use it as an excuse, he might have become a substantially more well-adjusted adult. Unfortunately, we will never know.		The decision to mainstream Chris at all costs is perhaps the most significant turning point in his development. Had he received an education more effectively tailored to his needs and learned more about his condition beyond how to use it as an excuse, he might have become a substantially more well-adjusted adult. Unfortunately, we will never know.

Hurtful Truth Level: cutting out stuff that's too speculative

2025-12-07T00:29:29Z

cutting out stuff that's too speculative

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	{{quote\|I was abused by one! A homosexual principal at my elementary school, slapped me on his lap, said some offensive, said some offensive things to me, and I felt uncomfortable, so I jumped off his lap and hid under his desk.\|Chris, setting himself up for another parody.}}		{{quote\|I was abused by one! A homosexual principal at my elementary school, slapped me on his lap, said some offensive, said some offensive things to me, and I felt uncomfortable, so I jumped off his lap and hid under his desk.\|Chris, setting himself up for another parody.}}

	When Alec pressed him to explain what those "offensive things" were, Chris couldn't recall any details~~. Bear in mind that Chris considers anything offensive if it's something he doesn't want to hear, so Bruce was probably just telling Chris to study harder or behave better or something similar~~.		When Alec pressed him to explain what those "offensive things" were, Chris couldn't recall any details.

	Given the fragmented nature of Chris's accounts, it's not clear whether he believes that the principal's-lap incident and the pinned-down-and-taped incident were directly connected. Certainly it's easy to imagine how they might be linked together: Chris goes to see the principal, he feels threatened, he becomes agitated, then more staff members have to be called in to deal with the problem. Another possibility is that he threw a hissy fit over [[Song of Christian\|getting an F on an assignment]] and the situation got out of hand. However, a more complete and reliable version of the story (or stories) has yet to be discovered.		Given the fragmented nature of Chris's accounts, it's not clear whether he believes that the principal's-lap incident and the pinned-down-and-taped incident were directly connected.

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	Furthermore, this assumes that Chris's claims of abuse by his principal aren't entirely fabricated to begin with. For starters, his line about "repressed memories" is fishy, and the revelation becomes even more suspect in light of its timing.		Furthermore, this assumes that Chris's claims of abuse by his principal aren't entirely fabricated to begin with. For starters, his line about "repressed memories" is fishy, and the revelation becomes even more suspect in light of its timing.

	Chris first mentioned his recollection of the incident in a video recorded right after his [[IRC (20 January 2009)\|20 January 2009 IRC chat]], where [[Clyde Cash]] and [[BILLY MAYS]] accused him of being a closeted homosexual and mocked his irrationally aggressive homophobia. It's quite possible that Chris invented the story about being abused as an excuse to defend his homophobia and a means of further proving his straightness — since he was abused by a gay man, goes Chris's unique version of logic, that means he can't be one himself, and likewise that incident of abuse justifies his irrational hatred of gay people in general.		As for the incident where Chris supposedly had to be subdued and tape-recorded, it's most likely that Chris's autistic behavior was difficult for the school's staff to control and the restraining may have been recorded for legal purposes.

	As for the ~~more thoroughly-documented~~ incident where Chris supposedly had to be subdued and tape-recorded, it's most likely that Chris's autistic behavior was difficult for the school's staff to control, and the district sought evidence to prove that Chris needed to be moved out of mainstream schools. Evidence like this could also be used as evidence of parental neglect or incompetence in choosing to avoid the obvious care a child with mental disabilities needs.

	==The "institution"==		==The "institution"==
	A critical gap in the story concerns exactly where Chris would have gone if he had been removed from the mainstream school system, as the Nathanael Greene staff proposed. As mentioned above, the psychiatrist who conducted Chris's [[autism papers\|psychiatric survey]] in [[2004]] described it as a "special school," but Chris generally refers to it using harsher terms like "institution" or "mental institution," as in the [[Father_Call#Experience_and_respect\|Father Call]] and his [[Jackie_e-mails#Chris_got_his_degree_for_Cwcville\|e-mails with Jackie]]~~, presumably because his parents have referred to it in such a manner~~.		A critical gap in the story concerns exactly where Chris would have gone if he had been removed from the mainstream school system, as the Nathanael Greene staff proposed. As mentioned above, the psychiatrist who conducted Chris's [[autism papers\|psychiatric survey]] in [[2004]] described it as a "special school," but Chris generally refers to it using harsher terms like "institution" or "mental institution," as in the [[Father_Call#Experience_and_respect\|Father Call]] and his [[Jackie_e-mails#Chris_got_his_degree_for_Cwcville\|e-mails with Jackie]].

	One clue appears in the [[Jackie_e-mails_Part_2#Chris_Lies_About_The_Game_Place\|Jackie communications]], where Chris calls it "that Winchester Mental Institution." [[:wikipedia:Winchester, Virginia\|Winchester]] is a small city in the Shenandoah Valley area of northwestern Virginia, and it's home to the [http://www.grafton.org Grafton School], a well-established school and group home that specializes in, among other things, the education and treatment of young people with autism. Some observers speculate that this may be where Chris would have been sent had his parents not insisted on mainstreaming him.		One clue appears in the [[Jackie_e-mails_Part_2#Chris_Lies_About_The_Game_Place\|Jackie communications]], where Chris calls it "that Winchester Mental Institution." [[:wikipedia:Winchester, Virginia\|Winchester]] is a small city in the Shenandoah Valley area of northwestern Virginia, and it's home to the [http://www.grafton.org Grafton School], a well-established school and group home that specializes in, among other things, the education and treatment of young people with autism. Some observers speculate that this may be where Chris would have been sent had his parents not insisted on mainstreaming him.

	The reasons why his parents were so adamant to keep him in a "normal" or "mainstream" educational environment aren't hard to guess. Not surprisingly, most of these objections are self-centered and are really about the parents' own feelings, not their child's needs. Like many parents whose children have special needs:

	* They may have felt that Chris's need for "special care" would reflect poorly on them as parents.
	* They may have assumed that Chris and/or his family would be stigmatized by being put in a special school.
	* They may have assumed that Chris would be limited in future opportunities by being put in a special school.
	* They may have feared that a greater financial burden would be imposed upon them if Chris was moved to a special school.
	* They may have assumed that Chris's problem "wasn't a big deal," while educators who spent most of the day with him saw the reality of the situation.
	* They may have thought that the school was going to lock Chris up in a padded cell or straitjacket for the rest of his life with no chances to make friends ever, or possibly lobotomize him.

	Chris did at least receive some specialised classes in [[Manchester High School\|high school]]. By then, however, he had missed early intervention (except speech therapy) and was already set in his ways.		Chris did at least receive some specialised classes in [[Manchester High School\|high school]]. By then, however, he had missed early intervention (except speech therapy) and was already set in his ways.
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	The decision to mainstream Chris at all costs is perhaps the most significant turning point in his development. Had he received an education more effectively tailored to his needs and learned more about his condition beyond how to use it as an excuse, he might have become a substantially more well-adjusted adult. Unfortunately, we will never know.		The decision to mainstream Chris at all costs is perhaps the most significant turning point in his development. Had he received an education more effectively tailored to his needs and learned more about his condition beyond how to use it as an excuse, he might have become a substantially more well-adjusted adult. Unfortunately, we will never know.

	~~To this day, all of the residents of~~ [[~~14 Branchland Court~~]] ~~consider it the wisest decision they have ever made.~~		In [[November 2021]], Chris implied that the [[trolling]] was the worst abuse he's received in his life, superseding the "pin-me-down event in fourth grade" and his [[Jail_Saga#Arrest\|arrest]].<ref>[[Jail_Call_-_1_November_2021\|1 November 2021 Jail Call]]</ref>

	~~However~~, Chris ~~later~~ implied that the [[trolling]] was the worst abuse he's received in his life, superseding the "pin-me-down event in fourth grade" and his [[Jail_Saga#Arrest\|arrest]].<ref>[[Jail_Call_-_1_November_2021\|1 November 2021 Jail Call]]</ref>

	==The Facebook Review==		==The Facebook Review==

Dodo Conservative: /* The "institution" */

2025-12-06T21:07:16Z

The "institution"

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	* They may have feared that a greater financial burden would be imposed upon them if Chris was moved to a special school.		* They may have feared that a greater financial burden would be imposed upon them if Chris was moved to a special school.
	* They may have assumed that Chris's problem "wasn't a big deal," while educators who spent most of the day with him saw the reality of the situation.		* They may have assumed that Chris's problem "wasn't a big deal," while educators who spent most of the day with him saw the reality of the situation.
	* They~~, by Chris's own admission,~~ thought that the school was going to lock Chris up in a padded cell or straitjacket for the rest of his life with no chances to make friends ever, or possibly lobotomize him.		* They may have thought that the school was going to lock Chris up in a padded cell or straitjacket for the rest of his life with no chances to make friends ever, or possibly lobotomize him.

			Chris did at least receive some specialised classes in [[Manchester High School\|high school]]. By then, however, he had missed early intervention (except speech therapy) and was already set in his ways.

	==The aftermath==		==The aftermath==

Hurtful Truth Level: /* The "institution" */

2025-12-06T17:31:31Z

The "institution"

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	* They may have assumed that Chris's problem "wasn't a big deal," while educators who spent most of the day with him saw the reality of the situation.		* They may have assumed that Chris's problem "wasn't a big deal," while educators who spent most of the day with him saw the reality of the situation.
	* They, by Chris's own admission, thought that the school was going to lock Chris up in a padded cell or straitjacket for the rest of his life with no chances to make friends ever, or possibly lobotomize him.		* They, by Chris's own admission, thought that the school was going to lock Chris up in a padded cell or straitjacket for the rest of his life with no chances to make friends ever, or possibly lobotomize him.

	Ironically enough, given Chris was temporarily sent to [[Western State Hospital]] in February 2022, the Chandlers' obsession with keeping Chris out of what they thought was a mental institution indirectly led him to one. Not to mention a similar event to what roused the ire Chris's parents in the first place happened to Chris whilst there (he also equated both incidents with each other)<ref>[[Jail Letter - 1 June 2022]]</ref>.

	==The aftermath==		==The aftermath==

Hurtful Truth Level: /* Chris's other side of the story */ too speculative

2025-11-29T12:13:19Z

Chris's other side of the story: too speculative

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	Given the fragmented nature of Chris's accounts, it's not clear whether he believes that the principal's-lap incident and the pinned-down-and-taped incident were directly connected. Certainly it's easy to imagine how they might be linked together: Chris goes to see the principal, he feels threatened, he becomes agitated, then more staff members have to be called in to deal with the problem. Another possibility is that he threw a hissy fit over [[Song of Christian\|getting an F on an assignment]] and the situation got out of hand. However, a more complete and reliable version of the story (or stories) has yet to be discovered.		Given the fragmented nature of Chris's accounts, it's not clear whether he believes that the principal's-lap incident and the pinned-down-and-taped incident were directly connected. Certainly it's easy to imagine how they might be linked together: Chris goes to see the principal, he feels threatened, he becomes agitated, then more staff members have to be called in to deal with the problem. Another possibility is that he threw a hissy fit over [[Song of Christian\|getting an F on an assignment]] and the situation got out of hand. However, a more complete and reliable version of the story (or stories) has yet to be discovered.

	Chris's beliefs that he was molested and that there was a conspiracy to have him institutionalized is most likely inspired by Bob, who has delusions of things like unidentified possible [[homos]]exuals, [[Megan Schroeder]], and [[Michael Snyder]] [[Matthew Noble call\|all being in collusion to get Chris kicked out of]] [[the GAMe PLACe]]. Bob's attribution of that incident to an imaginary cabal instead of Chris's behavior also shows a similar pattern of accountability on behalf of the Chandlers.

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	*Public schools are required to have faculty experienced with special education, so it's doubtful that Chris was surrounded entirely by people who didn't understand his condition.		*Public schools are required to have faculty experienced with special education, so it's doubtful that Chris was surrounded entirely by people who didn't understand his condition.
	*Restraint would be required to be carried out by trained people to strict protocol, which includes an incident report - particularly, the only proof required is usually a witness, making it unnecessary that he would be recorded screaming. While one teacher may disregard protocol, which would indeed be grounds for a lawsuit, it is unlikely that an entire group, including the principal, would.		*Restraint would be required to be carried out by trained people to strict protocol, which includes an incident report - particularly, the only proof required is usually a witness, making it unnecessary that he would be recorded screaming. While one teacher may disregard protocol, which would indeed be grounds for a lawsuit, it is unlikely that an entire group, including the principal, would.
	*As a rule, elementary school principals aren't supposed to let kids sit on their lap for the exact reason Chris was afraid of: it's inappropriate behavior. ~~It's quite likely, however~~, that ~~Johnson~~ was ~~just trying~~ to comfort Chris ~~and forgot the rule~~.		*As a rule, elementary school principals aren't supposed to let kids sit on their lap for the exact reason Chris was afraid of: it's inappropriate behavior. However, it is not entirely implausible that leeway was made in order to comfort Chris.
	*On top of that, the odds that an openly gay man would be employed as an educator in the rural South in the early 1990s are slim to none.		*On top of that, the odds that an openly gay man would be employed as an educator in the rural South in the early 1990s are slim to none.

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2025-07-25T22:20:57Z

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	[[Image:Nathaniel Greene School.jpg\|thumb\|Nathanael Greene Elementary School, Stanardsville]]		[[Image:Nathaniel Greene School.jpg\|thumb\|Nathanael Greene Elementary School, Stanardsville]]
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	'''Nathanael Greene Elementary School''' is an elementary school in [[Wikipedia:Stanardsville, Virginia\|Stanardsville, Virginia]], a 192-acre (78-ha) town which basically consists of a highway intersection. The school is named for the [[Wikipedia:American Revolutionary War\|Revolutionary War]] hero [[Wikipedia:Nathanael Greene\|Nathanael Greene]]. [[Christian Weston Chandler\|Chris]] attended [[Wikipedia:Fourth grade\|fourth-grade]] classes at this school. To this day, he consistently misspells the school's name as "Nathan'''i'''el Greene" and the name of the town where it is located as "Stan'''d'''ardsville".		'''Nathanael Greene Elementary School''' is an elementary school in [[Wikipedia:Stanardsville, Virginia\|Stanardsville, Virginia]], a 192-acre (78-ha) town which basically consists of a highway intersection. The school is named for the [[Wikipedia:American Revolutionary War\|Revolutionary War]] hero [[Wikipedia:Nathanael Greene\|Nathanael Greene]]. [[Christian Weston Chandler\|Chris]] attended [[Wikipedia:Fourth grade\|fourth-grade]] classes at this school. To this day, he consistently misspells the school's name as "Nathan'''i'''el Greene" and the name of the town where it is located as "Stan'''d'''ardsville".

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	*Chris has never clearly explained what triggered these incidents. According to all of his accounts, the school faculty either assaulted him without provocation or for lustful or sadistic reasons.		*Chris has never clearly explained what triggered these incidents. According to all of his accounts, the school faculty either assaulted him without provocation or for lustful or sadistic reasons.
	*Public schools are required to have faculty experienced with special education, so it's doubtful that Chris was surrounded entirely by people who didn't understand his condition.		*Public schools are required to have faculty experienced with special education, so it's doubtful that Chris was surrounded entirely by people who didn't understand his condition.
	*Restraint would be required to be carried out to strict protocol, which includes an incident report - particularly, the only proof required is usually a witness, making it unnecessary that he would be recorded screaming. While one teacher may disregard protocol, which would indeed be grounds for a lawsuit, it is unlikely that an entire group, including the principal, would.		*Restraint would be required to be carried out by trained people to strict protocol, which includes an incident report - particularly, the only proof required is usually a witness, making it unnecessary that he would be recorded screaming. While one teacher may disregard protocol, which would indeed be grounds for a lawsuit, it is unlikely that an entire group, including the principal, would.
	*As a rule, elementary school principals aren't supposed to let kids sit on their lap for the exact reason Chris was afraid of: it's inappropriate behavior. It's quite likely, however, that Johnson was just trying to comfort Chris and forgot the rule.		*As a rule, elementary school principals aren't supposed to let kids sit on their lap for the exact reason Chris was afraid of: it's inappropriate behavior. It's quite likely, however, that Johnson was just trying to comfort Chris and forgot the rule.
	*On top of that, the odds that an openly gay man would be employed as an educator in the rural South in the early 1990s are slim to none.		*On top of that, the odds that an openly gay man would be employed as an educator in the rural South in the early 1990s are slim to none.

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	*Chris has never clearly explained what triggered these incidents. According to all of his accounts, the school faculty either assaulted him without provocation or for lustful or sadistic reasons.		*Chris has never clearly explained what triggered these incidents. According to all of his accounts, the school faculty either assaulted him without provocation or for lustful or sadistic reasons.
	*Public schools are required to have faculty experienced with special education, so it's doubtful that Chris was surrounded entirely by people who didn't understand his condition.		*Public schools are required to have faculty experienced with special education, so it's doubtful that Chris was surrounded entirely by people who didn't understand his condition.
	*Restraint would be required to be carried out to strict protocol, which includes an incident report - particularly, the only proof required is usually a witness, making it unnecessary that he would be recorded screaming. While one teacher may disregard protocol, which would ~~thus~~ be grounds for a lawsuit, it is unlikely that an entire group, including the principal, would.		*Restraint would be required to be carried out to strict protocol, which includes an incident report - particularly, the only proof required is usually a witness, making it unnecessary that he would be recorded screaming. While one teacher may disregard protocol, which would indeed be grounds for a lawsuit, it is unlikely that an entire group, including the principal, would.
	*As a rule, elementary school principals aren't supposed to let kids sit on their lap for the exact reason Chris was afraid of: it's inappropriate behavior. It's quite likely, however, that Johnson was just trying to comfort Chris and forgot the rule.		*As a rule, elementary school principals aren't supposed to let kids sit on their lap for the exact reason Chris was afraid of: it's inappropriate behavior. It's quite likely, however, that Johnson was just trying to comfort Chris and forgot the rule.
	*On top of that, the odds that an openly gay man would be employed as an educator in the rural South in the early 1990s are slim to none.		*On top of that, the odds that an openly gay man would be employed as an educator in the rural South in the early 1990s are slim to none.

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	[[Image:Nathaniel Greene School.jpg\|thumb\|Nathanael Greene Elementary School, Stanardsville]]		[[Image:Nathaniel Greene School.jpg\|thumb\|Nathanael Greene Elementary School, Stanardsville]]
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	'''Nathanael Greene Elementary School''' is an elementary school in [[Wikipedia:Stanardsville, Virginia\|Stanardsville, Virginia]], a 192-acre (78-ha) town which basically consists of a highway intersection. The school is named for the [[Wikipedia:American Revolutionary War\|Revolutionary War]] hero [[Wikipedia:Nathanael Greene\|Nathanael Greene]]. [[Christian Weston Chandler\|Chris]] attended [[Wikipedia:Fourth grade\|fourth-grade]] classes at this school. To this day, he consistently misspells the school's name as "Nathan'''i'''el Greene" and the name of the town where it is located as "Stan'''d'''ardsville".		'''Nathanael Greene Elementary School''' is an elementary school in [[Wikipedia:Stanardsville, Virginia\|Stanardsville, Virginia]], a 192-acre (78-ha) town which basically consists of a highway intersection. The school is named for the [[Wikipedia:American Revolutionary War\|Revolutionary War]] hero [[Wikipedia:Nathanael Greene\|Nathanael Greene]]. [[Christian Weston Chandler\|Chris]] attended [[Wikipedia:Fourth grade\|fourth-grade]] classes at this school. To this day, he consistently misspells the school's name as "Nathan'''i'''el Greene" and the name of the town where it is located as "Stan'''d'''ardsville".