Praetor - Revision history

Ayumu Kasuga at 17:21, 23 July 2026

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	On 22 [[September 2020]], Chris made a post on [[The Place]] [[Discord]] server, where he mentioned that he was meeting with some "new associates."<ref name=placeassociates></ref> He mentions that they were going to talk about "the molding to mass produce the medallions, and possibly the figures, with optional Amiibo functions, in a little while." After being asked who these associates were, Chris refused to give their identities but gave details about their first interaction.		On 22 [[September 2020]], Chris made a post on [[The Place]] [[Discord]] server, where he mentioned that he was meeting with some "new associates."<ref name=placeassociates></ref> He mentions that they were going to talk about "the molding to mass produce the medallions, and possibly the figures, with optional Amiibo functions, in a little while." After being asked who these associates were, Chris refused to give their identities but gave details about their first interaction.

	On the 25th, Chris mentioned them to the [[Watchmen]] again, revealing their name as Praetor LLC<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Patreon_Troubles,_Chris's_Online_Social_Life,_%22The_Boys,%22_Praetor_LLC_Revealed\|Patreon Troubles, Chris's Online Social Life, The Boys, Praetor LLC Revealed]]</ref>. On the 28th, Chris finally addressed the closure of his [[CWCville Shopping]] website in a tweet, and wrote that he was "presently in cooperation and works with our allies and circles of friends who will be selling the books, #TSSSF cards, and so on, on our behalf, with personal agreements and blessings."<ref>[[September 2020 social media posts#Cwcville Shopping's State and Future and Kiwi Farms Whining]]</ref> On 3 October, Chris mentioned to the Watchmen that Praetor was helping him create a ~~"lore~~ bible."<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Lore_Bible_Discussion\|Lore Bible Discussion]]</ref>. On the 15th, Praetor's [[Discord]] account, ran by Caden Peck, joined the [[The Place]] Discord server, and answered the Watchmen's questions.<ref name =q&a></ref>		On the 25th, Chris mentioned them to the [[Watchmen]] again, revealing their name as Praetor LLC<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Patreon_Troubles,_Chris's_Online_Social_Life,_%22The_Boys,%22_Praetor_LLC_Revealed\|Patreon Troubles, Chris's Online Social Life, The Boys, Praetor LLC Revealed]]</ref>. On the 28th, Chris finally addressed the closure of his [[CWCville Shopping]] website in a tweet, and wrote that he was "presently in cooperation and works with our allies and circles of friends who will be selling the books, #TSSSF cards, and so on, on our behalf, with personal agreements and blessings."<ref>[[September 2020 social media posts#Cwcville Shopping's State and Future and Kiwi Farms Whining]]</ref> On 3 October, Chris mentioned to the Watchmen that Praetor was helping him create a bible.<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Lore_Bible_Discussion\|Lore Bible Discussion]]</ref> On the 15th, Praetor's [[Discord]] account, ran by Caden Peck, joined the [[The Place]] Discord server, and answered the Watchmen's questions.<ref name =q&a></ref>

	===Introduced to the Public===		===Introduced to the Public===

Ayumu Kasuga at 16:44, 23 July 2026

2026-07-23T16:44:37Z

Ayumu Kasuga: /* Before Chris */

2026-06-07T20:40:46Z

Before Chris

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	==Before Chris==		==Before Chris==
	{{quote\|Now the ideal solution would be for someone to act as a middleman for Chris' business ventures online. They filter out the tards, Chris gets money for legitimate video requests and stuff like that, and everyone's happy. And that's precisely what [[null]]'s doing.\|[[Marvin]], 14 [[June 2018]]<ref>https://kiwifarms.st/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-6#post-3461101 ([[OPERATION: Kingsnake]])</ref>}}		{{quote\|Now the ideal solution would be for someone to act as a middleman for Chris' business ventures online. They filter out the tards, Chris gets money for legitimate video requests and stuff like that, and everyone's happy. And that's precisely what [[null]]'s doing.\|[[Marvin]], 14 [[June 2018]]<ref>https://kiwifarms.st/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-6#post-3461101 ([[OPERATION: Kingsnake]])</ref>}}
	Caden, Owen, Annie, and Cabell were all students at Goochland High School in {{w\|Goochland, Virginia}} in the late 2010s.		Caden, Owen, Annie, and Cabell were all students at Goochland High School in {{w\|Goochland, Virginia}} in the late [[2010s]].

	Caden had claimed that Praetor has been around since [[2017]], working with "creative types."<ref name =q&a>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Praetor_Arrives,_Chris_Writes_his_Sermon,_More_Bible Discussion\|Praetor Arrives, Chris Writes his Sermon, More Bible Discussion]]</ref>. If this is true, Caden would have been 14 or 15 years old at the time of Praetor's creation. Caden also claimed that they worked with Kevin Baugh, founder of the {{w\|Republic of Molossia}} ([[Molvanîa\|no relation]]), and wrote a dissertation for him in order to officiate Molossia as a sovereign nation.<ref name=q&a></ref>		Caden had claimed that Praetor has been around since [[2017]], working with "creative types."<ref name =q&a>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Praetor_Arrives,_Chris_Writes_his_Sermon,_More_Bible Discussion\|Praetor Arrives, Chris Writes his Sermon, More Bible Discussion]]</ref> If this is true, Caden would have been 14 or 15 years old at the time of Praetor's creation. Caden also claimed that they worked with Kevin Baugh, founder of the {{w\|Republic of Molossia}} ([[Molvanîa\|no relation]]), and wrote a dissertation for him in order to officiate Molossia as a sovereign nation.<ref name=q&a></ref>

	Praetor used to have a dedicated website, but was taken down by Caden due to the domain costs. He decided that instead of waiting to have "eccentric people" find him, he would personally reach out to them himself.<ref name=q&a></ref> [[Naught]] once claimed that Praetor went after other lolcows before Chris, including Tommy Tooter, whom they tried to make products for.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/feb-5-2021-chris-wants-to-play-with-taser-to-activate-the-merge.84502/</ref>		Praetor used to have a dedicated website, but was taken down by Caden due to the domain costs. He decided that instead of waiting to have "eccentric people" find him, he would personally reach out to them himself.<ref name=q&a></ref> [[Naught]] once claimed that Praetor went after other lolcows before Chris, including Tommy Tooter, whom they tried to make products for.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/feb-5-2021-chris-wants-to-play-with-taser-to-activate-the-merge.84502/</ref>

Ayumu Kasuga: /* Before Chris */

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	==Before Chris==		==Before Chris==
			{{quote\|Now the ideal solution would be for someone to act as a middleman for Chris' business ventures online. They filter out the tards, Chris gets money for legitimate video requests and stuff like that, and everyone's happy. And that's precisely what [[null]]'s doing.\|[[Marvin]], 14 [[June 2018]]<ref>https://kiwifarms.st/threads/operation-kingsnake.44345/page-6#post-3461101 ([[OPERATION: Kingsnake]])</ref>}}
	Caden, Owen, Annie, and Cabell were all students at Goochland High School in {{w\|Goochland, Virginia}} in the late 2010s.		Caden, Owen, Annie, and Cabell were all students at Goochland High School in {{w\|Goochland, Virginia}} in the late 2010s.

Ayumu Kasuga at 08:20, 27 February 2026

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	{{quote\|That wasn’t me,, I tried to give Chris as much money as I could,, but I was cut outta preator,, I only got 10% even tho is was a partnership, and I was in Chris’s corner tryna make sure he wasn’t taken advantage of,,\|Owen<ref name=oweninsta></ref>}}		{{quote\|That wasn’t me,, I tried to give Chris as much money as I could,, but I was cut outta preator,, I only got 10% even tho is was a partnership, and I was in Chris’s corner tryna make sure he wasn’t taken advantage of,,\|Owen<ref name=oweninsta></ref>}}

			====Twitter posts====
			In [[September 2020]], a [[Twitter]] account, @'''_Praetor_''', was created for the group. The account lacks a profile picture or banner, and only has a bio that reads "Working with the best of us, for the rest of us." Below are the few posts made to the account.
			{{collapsible\|@_Praetor_ Twitter posts\|
			24 September 2020:<br>
			{{quoteboxmaroon\|speaker=Praetor\|time=[https://x.com/_Praetor_/status/1309013119012831238 2:13 AM]\|We're new to this Twitter thing, so go easy on us.}}

			12 December 2020:<br>
			{{quoteboxmaroon\|speaker=Praetor\|time=[https://x.com/_Praetor_/status/1337674834864640000 3:25 AM]\|[[File:Praetor Logo (uncentered).jpeg\|250px]]}}
			{{quoteboxmaroon\|speaker=Praetor\|time=[https://x.com/_Praetor_/status/1337675260628529153 3:26 AM]\|Meet the team. Featuring our favorite client, @CPU_CWCSonichu<br>[[File:PraetorLLC.jpg\|250px]]}}
			{{quoteboxmaroon\|speaker=Praetor\|time=[https://x.com/_Praetor_/status/1337675578279931904 3:28 AM]\|Representing Chris Chan, we're thrilled to be coming up on the announcement of a new project. Stay tuned.<br>[[File:Praetor Chris image Twitter version.jpeg\|250px]]}}

			13 December 2020:<br>
			{{quoteboxmaroon\|speaker=Praetor\|time=[https://x.com/_Praetor_/status/1338076770059362304 6:02 AM]\|<nowiki>etsy.com/listing/904683630/official-chris-chan-sonichu-medallion</nowiki>

			Pleased to announce the launch of [[OfficialCWCmart\|our first store]]. The only officially sanctioned Chris Chan Medallions!<br>
			Get them while available.}}
			{{quoteboxmaroon\|speaker=Praetor\|time=[https://x.com/_Praetor_/status/1338153283068850179 11:06 AM]\|[''Replying to a deleted post which replied to the previous one.'']

			We have her kids each one.}}
			}}

	===Royalty payment===		===Royalty payment===

Ayumu Kasuga at 05:42, 11 February 2026

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			[[Category:Things Chris likes]]

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	{{quote\|...our goal is not to take anything. Our goal is not to be, y'know, f- just screwing with [[Christine Weston Chandler\|Christine]]. Our goal here is just to make cash ''with'' her, as a partnership, right?\|Praetor leader [[Caden Peck]] reassuring [[the Watchmen]], 8 [[February 2021]]<ref>[[Taser Discussion]]</ref>}}		{{quote\|...our goal is not to take anything. Our goal is not to be, y'know, f- just screwing with [[Christine Weston Chandler\|Christine]]. Our goal here is just to make cash ''with'' her, as a partnership, right?\|Praetor leader [[Caden Peck]] reassuring [[the Watchmen]], 8 [[February 2021]]<ref>[[Taser Discussion]]</ref>}}

	~~[[File:~~PraetorLogo.jpg\|~~400px~~\|~~thumb~~\|Praetor'~~s logo~~]]		{{Infobox Organization
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	'''Praetor LLC''' is a group of [[carpetbaggers]] and [[enablers]]. They first came into contact with [[Chris]] in [[September 2020]], introducing themselves at [[14 Branchland Court\|Chris's house]] with the aim of producing and selling ''[[Sonichu (comic)\|Sonichu]]'' and Chris-themed products in partnership with him. In early [[December 2020]], Praetor opened the ''[[OfficialCWCmart]]'' store on [[Etsy]], and using it began offering [[Sonichu medallions]] for sale, which were produced by the group and endorsed by Chris, and Chris was given a cut of the profits. Praetor has since expanded to other, more bizarre, products, some produced by the group, and others by Chris. According to Chris, he receives all money from his own earnings - in [[March 2024]], in response to [[~~Gibi~~]] speculating that Praetor was taking about 10% of Chris's earnings, Chris shook his head and said he gets all the money.<ref>[[Christ Chan Live Stream: YouTube Video Watching]]</ref> By [[2023]], OfficialCWCmart generated more than 3000 sales, giving them a minimum of between $49,905 and $116,000 in revenue, although their actual revenue is unknown but potentially higher.<ref>Of 3327 sales. Their lowest-priced item is $15, and a popular medallion item is $35. Several items such as art generally sold for $200 each</ref> While the sales have slowed down considerably, by [[March 2024]], the number increased to over 4200. As of [[December 2025]], the number has reached 7500.		'''Praetor LLC''' is a group of [[carpetbaggers]] and [[enablers]]. They first came into contact with [[Chris]] in [[September 2020]], introducing themselves at [[14 Branchland Court\|Chris's house]] with the aim of producing and selling ''[[Sonichu (comic)\|Sonichu]]'' and Chris-themed products in partnership with him. In early [[December 2020]], Praetor opened the ''[[OfficialCWCmart]]'' store on [[Etsy]], and using it began offering [[Sonichu medallions]] for sale, which were produced by the group and endorsed by Chris, and Chris was given a cut of the profits. Praetor has since expanded to other, more bizarre, products, some produced by the group, and others by Chris. According to Chris, he receives all money from his own earnings - in [[March 2024]], in response to [[GiBi]] speculating that Praetor was taking about 10% of Chris's earnings, Chris shook his head and said he gets all the money.<ref>[[Christ Chan Live Stream: YouTube Video Watching]]</ref> By [[2023]], OfficialCWCmart generated more than 3000 sales, giving them a minimum of between $49,905 and $116,000 in revenue, although their actual revenue is unknown but potentially higher.<ref>Of 3327 sales. Their lowest-priced item is $15, and a popular medallion item is $35. Several items such as art generally sold for $200 each</ref> While the sales have slowed down considerably, by [[March 2024]], the number increased to over 4200. As of [[December 2025]], the number has reached 7500.

	During the [[Jail Saga]], Chris continued communicating with them, [[OfficialCWCmart Jail Art\|mailing them art from jail]], which they sold via [[OfficialCWCmart]] with Chris's permission. They were one of Chris's only contacts other than [[Barbara Chandler\|his mother]] and [[David Heilberg\|his lawyer]] during the last few months of his stay in jail. This is likely related to Chris's lawyer advising Praetor to keep Chris away from [[Weens\|ill-intentioned people]] (as people had attempted to troll Chris in jail for the past year), implying that Chris's lawyer deemed them trustworthy.		During the [[Jail Saga]], though they initially lost contact for a while,<ref>[[Jail Letter - 18 January 2022]], Chris mentions that he wishes to get back in contact with Praetor.</ref> Chris continued communicating with them, [[OfficialCWCmart Jail Art\|mailing them art from jail]], which they sold via [[OfficialCWCmart]] with Chris's permission. They were one of Chris's only contacts other than [[Barbara Chandler\|his mother]] and [[David Heilberg\|his lawyer]] during the last few months of his stay in jail. This is likely related to Chris's lawyer advising Praetor to keep Chris away from [[Weens\|ill-intentioned people]] (as people had attempted to troll Chris in jail for the past year), implying that Chris's lawyer deemed them trustworthy.

	Upon Chris's being released from jail in [[March 2023]], they have continued their involvement. In [[June 2023]], Praetor member Caden Peck was involved with financing a two-story house in [[Big Island, Virginia]], which Chris moved into within the following months, thus putting an end to his short stint at [[Gateway Homes]]. It is not confirmed whether or not Chris lives by himself in the house. In [[January 2024]], Chris mentioned paying rent in an interview.<ref>[[The Chris Chan Interview]]</ref>		Upon Chris's being released from jail in [[March 2023]], they have continued their involvement. In [[June 2023]], Praetor member Caden Peck was involved with financing a two-story house in [[Big Island, Virginia]], which Chris moved into within the following months, thus putting an end to his short stint at [[Gateway Homes]]. It is not confirmed whether or not Chris lives by himself in the house. In [[January 2024]], Chris mentioned paying rent in an interview.<ref>[[The Chris Chan Interview]]</ref>
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	File:Tinyhorse02.png\|With Caden.		File:Tinyhorse02.png\|With Caden.
	File:Praetor4.jpg\|With Owen.		File:Praetor4.jpg\|With Owen.
	File:Praetor5.jpg\|Arguably one of the most iconic images of Chris out there, appearing on news articles and formerly on his Wikitubia page until 1 March 2024.</gallery></center>		File:Praetor5.jpg\|Arguably one of the most iconic images of Chris out there, appearing on news articles and formerly on his Wikitubia page until 1 March 2024.
			File:Fuller Chris and Caden picture - "Screenshot 20201017-024458 Instagram".jpg\|Another picture of Chris with Caden.
			</gallery></center>

	On 19 October, Praetor's presence was made known to the public, when they released multiple photos of Chris and the members of Praetor at a Chinese restaurant. One of these images included the members' Instagram handles, making it very easy for them to get doxxed.		On 19 October, Praetor's presence was made known to the public, when they released multiple photos of Chris and the members of Praetor at a Chinese restaurant. One of these images included the members' Instagram handles, making it very easy for them to get doxxed.

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	'''Praetor LLC''' is a group of [[carpetbaggers]] and [[enablers]]. They first came into contact with [[Chris]] in [[September 2020]], introducing themselves at [[14 Branchland Court\|Chris's house]] with the aim of producing and selling ''[[Sonichu (comic)\|Sonichu]]'' and Chris-themed products in partnership with him. In early [[December 2020]], Praetor opened the ''[[OfficialCWCmart]]'' store on [[Etsy]], and using it began offering [[Sonichu medallions]] for sale, which were produced by the group and endorsed by Chris, and Chris was given a cut of the profits. Praetor has since expanded to other, more bizarre, products, some produced by the group, and others by Chris. According to Chris he receives all money from his own earnings - in [[March 2024]], in response to [[Gibi]] speculating that Praetor was taking about 10% of Chris's earnings, Chris shook his head and said he gets all the money.<ref>[[Christ Chan Live Stream: YouTube Video Watching]]</ref> By [[2023]], OfficialCWCmart generated more than 3000 sales, giving them a minimum of between $49,905 and $116,000 in revenue, although their actual revenue is unknown but potentially higher.<ref>Of 3327 sales. Their lowest-priced item is $15, and a popular medallion item is $35. Several items such as art generally sold for $200 each</ref> While the sales have slowed down considerably, by [[March 2024]], the number increased to over 4200. As of [[December 2025]], the number has reached 7500.		'''Praetor LLC''' is a group of [[carpetbaggers]] and [[enablers]]. They first came into contact with [[Chris]] in [[September 2020]], introducing themselves at [[14 Branchland Court\|Chris's house]] with the aim of producing and selling ''[[Sonichu (comic)\|Sonichu]]'' and Chris-themed products in partnership with him. In early [[December 2020]], Praetor opened the ''[[OfficialCWCmart]]'' store on [[Etsy]], and using it began offering [[Sonichu medallions]] for sale, which were produced by the group and endorsed by Chris, and Chris was given a cut of the profits. Praetor has since expanded to other, more bizarre, products, some produced by the group, and others by Chris. According to Chris, he receives all money from his own earnings - in [[March 2024]], in response to [[Gibi]] speculating that Praetor was taking about 10% of Chris's earnings, Chris shook his head and said he gets all the money.<ref>[[Christ Chan Live Stream: YouTube Video Watching]]</ref> By [[2023]], OfficialCWCmart generated more than 3000 sales, giving them a minimum of between $49,905 and $116,000 in revenue, although their actual revenue is unknown but potentially higher.<ref>Of 3327 sales. Their lowest-priced item is $15, and a popular medallion item is $35. Several items such as art generally sold for $200 each</ref> While the sales have slowed down considerably, by [[March 2024]], the number increased to over 4200. As of [[December 2025]], the number has reached 7500.

	During the [[Jail Saga]], Chris continued communicating with them, [[OfficialCWCmart Jail Art\|mailing them art from jail]], which they sold via [[OfficialCWCmart]] with Chris's permission. They were one of Chris's only contacts other than [[Barbara Chandler\|his mother]] and [[David Heilberg\|his lawyer]] during the last few months of his stay in jail. This is likely related to Chris's lawyer advising Praetor to keep Chris away from [[Weens\|ill-intentioned people]] (as people had attempted to troll Chris in jail for the past year), implying that Chris's lawyer deemed them trustworthy.		During the [[Jail Saga]], Chris continued communicating with them, [[OfficialCWCmart Jail Art\|mailing them art from jail]], which they sold via [[OfficialCWCmart]] with Chris's permission. They were one of Chris's only contacts other than [[Barbara Chandler\|his mother]] and [[David Heilberg\|his lawyer]] during the last few months of his stay in jail. This is likely related to Chris's lawyer advising Praetor to keep Chris away from [[Weens\|ill-intentioned people]] (as people had attempted to troll Chris in jail for the past year), implying that Chris's lawyer deemed them trustworthy.

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	'''Praetor LLC''' is a group of [[carpetbaggers]] and [[enablers]]. They first came into contact with [[Chris]] in [[September 2020]], introducing themselves at [[14 Branchland Court\|Chris's house]] with the aim of producing and selling ''[[Sonichu (comic)\|Sonichu]]'' and Chris-themed products in partnership with him. In early [[December 2020]], Praetor opened the ''[[OfficialCWCmart]]'' store on [[Etsy]], and using it began offering [[Sonichu medallions]] for sale, which were produced by the group and endorsed by Chris, and Chris was given a cut of the profits. Praetor has since expanded to other, more bizarre, products, some produced by the group, and others by Chris. Chris's ~~income split for products made by him is unknown~~. By [[2023]], OfficialCWCmart generated more than 3000 sales, giving them a minimum of between $49,905 and $116,000 in revenue, although their actual revenue is unknown but potentially higher.<ref>Of 3327 sales. Their lowest-priced item is $15, and a popular medallion item is $35. Several items such as art generally sold for $200 each</ref> While the sales have slowed down considerably, by [[March 2024]], the number increased to over 4200. As of [[December 2025]], the number has reached 7500.		'''Praetor LLC''' is a group of [[carpetbaggers]] and [[enablers]]. They first came into contact with [[Chris]] in [[September 2020]], introducing themselves at [[14 Branchland Court\|Chris's house]] with the aim of producing and selling ''[[Sonichu (comic)\|Sonichu]]'' and Chris-themed products in partnership with him. In early [[December 2020]], Praetor opened the ''[[OfficialCWCmart]]'' store on [[Etsy]], and using it began offering [[Sonichu medallions]] for sale, which were produced by the group and endorsed by Chris, and Chris was given a cut of the profits. Praetor has since expanded to other, more bizarre, products, some produced by the group, and others by Chris. According to Chris he receives all money from his own earnings - in [[March 2024]], in response to [[Gibi]] speculating that Praetor was taking about 10% of Chris's earnings, Chris shook his head and said he gets all the money.<ref>[[Christ Chan Live Stream: YouTube Video Watching]]</ref> By [[2023]], OfficialCWCmart generated more than 3000 sales, giving them a minimum of between $49,905 and $116,000 in revenue, although their actual revenue is unknown but potentially higher.<ref>Of 3327 sales. Their lowest-priced item is $15, and a popular medallion item is $35. Several items such as art generally sold for $200 each</ref> While the sales have slowed down considerably, by [[March 2024]], the number increased to over 4200. As of [[December 2025]], the number has reached 7500.

	During the [[Jail Saga]], Chris continued communicating with them, [[OfficialCWCmart Jail Art\|mailing them art from jail]], which they sold via [[OfficialCWCmart]] with Chris's permission. They were one of Chris's only contacts other than [[Barbara Chandler\|his mother]] and [[David Heilberg\|his lawyer]] during the last few months of his stay in jail. This is likely related to Chris's lawyer advising Praetor to keep Chris away from [[Weens\|ill-intentioned people]] (as people had attempted to troll Chris in jail for the past year), implying that Chris's lawyer deemed them trustworthy.		During the [[Jail Saga]], Chris continued communicating with them, [[OfficialCWCmart Jail Art\|mailing them art from jail]], which they sold via [[OfficialCWCmart]] with Chris's permission. They were one of Chris's only contacts other than [[Barbara Chandler\|his mother]] and [[David Heilberg\|his lawyer]] during the last few months of his stay in jail. This is likely related to Chris's lawyer advising Praetor to keep Chris away from [[Weens\|ill-intentioned people]] (as people had attempted to troll Chris in jail for the past year), implying that Chris's lawyer deemed them trustworthy.

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Membership

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	{{Quote\|In the group, Annie is very much psychically able. Owen is like the magician of the group; among his skill set, he can also make a variety of special teas and such that can be like potions and elixirs. Cabell is also psychically inclined, but she's the artist. Caden is very open-minded, and the brains and business.\|Chris<ref name=naughtdms>[[Naught DMs#Praetor]]</ref>}}		{{Quote\|In the group, Annie is very much psychically able. Owen is like the magician of the group; among his skill set, he can also make a variety of special teas and such that can be like potions and elixirs. Cabell is also psychically inclined, but she's the artist. Caden is very open-minded, and the brains and business.\|Chris<ref name=naughtdms>[[Naught DMs#Praetor]]</ref>}}

	While Caden is the leader of Praetor and presumably does most of the heavy lifting, there were at least three other members as of late [[2020]], along with several additional collaborators. The four core members were all students at Goochland High School in {{w\|Goochland, Virginia}}. Owen left the group sometime prior to [[June 2021]], and while there's no conclusive evidence on Annabel leaving, she had a 10 month break in making content following 25 [[December 2023]], after which she had made her own website to sell her [[Mass debating\|content]] on. There is no indication that Cabell remained involved with Praetor after Chris's [[Incest arrest\|arrest for incest]] in [[August 2021]], making Caden the only ~~confirmed~~ remaining member. It's very possible, however, that he has since hired more members to produce art, as many of the products made since [[Chris and art\|aren't total shite]].		While Caden is the leader of Praetor and presumably does most of the heavy lifting, there were at least three other members as of late [[2020]], along with several additional collaborators. The four core members were all students at Goochland High School in {{w\|Goochland, Virginia}}. Owen left the group sometime prior to [[June 2021]], and while there's no conclusive evidence on Annabel leaving, she had a 10 month break in making content following 25 [[December 2023]], after which she had made her own website to sell her [[Mass debating\|content]] on. There is no indication that Cabell remained involved with Praetor after Chris's [[Incest arrest\|arrest for incest]] in [[August 2021]], making Caden the only known remaining member. It's very possible, however, that he has since hired more members to produce art, as many of the products made since [[Chris and art\|aren't total shite]].
	===Caden Michael Peck===		===Caden Michael Peck===
	{{main\|Caden Peck}}		{{main\|Caden Peck}}

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	'''Praetor LLC''' is a group of [[carpetbaggers]] and [[enablers]]. They first came into contact with [[Chris]] in [[September 2020]], introducing themselves at [[14 Branchland Court\|Chris's house]] with the aim of producing and selling ''[[Sonichu (comic)\|Sonichu]]'' and Chris-themed products in partnership with him. In early [[December 2020]], Praetor opened the ''[[OfficialCWCmart]]'' store on [[Etsy]], and using it began offering [[Sonichu medallions]] for sale, which were produced by the group and endorsed by Chris, and Chris was given a cut of the profits. Praetor has since expanded to other, more bizarre, products, some produced by the group, and others by Chris. According to Chris he receives all money from his own earnings - in [[March 2024]], in response to [[Gibi]] speculating that Praetor was taking about 10% of Chris's earnings, Chris shook his head and said he gets all the money.<ref>[[Christ Chan Live Stream: YouTube Video Watching]]</ref> By [[2023]], OfficialCWCmart generated more than 3000 sales, giving them a minimum of between $49,905 and $116,000 in revenue, although their actual revenue is unknown but potentially higher.<ref>Of 3327 sales. Their lowest-priced item is $15, and a popular medallion item is $35. Several items such as art generally sold for $200 each</ref> While the sales have slowed down considerably, by [[March 2024]], the number increased to over 4200. As of [[December 2025]], the number has reached 7500.		'''Praetor LLC''' is a group of [[carpetbaggers]] and [[enablers]]. They first came into contact with [[Chris]] in [[September 2020]], introducing themselves at [[14 Branchland Court\|Chris's house]] with the aim of producing and selling ''[[Sonichu (comic)\|Sonichu]]'' and Chris-themed products in partnership with him. In early [[December 2020]], Praetor opened the ''[[OfficialCWCmart]]'' store on [[Etsy]], and using it began offering [[Sonichu medallions]] for sale, which were produced by the group and endorsed by Chris, and Chris was given a cut of the profits. Praetor has since expanded to other, more bizarre, products, some produced by the group, and others by Chris. According to Chris, he receives all money from his own earnings - in [[March 2024]], in response to [[Gibi]] speculating that Praetor was taking about 10% of Chris's earnings, Chris shook his head and said he gets all the money.<ref>[[Christ Chan Live Stream: YouTube Video Watching]]</ref> By [[2023]], OfficialCWCmart generated more than 3000 sales, giving them a minimum of between $49,905 and $116,000 in revenue, although their actual revenue is unknown but potentially higher.<ref>Of 3327 sales. Their lowest-priced item is $15, and a popular medallion item is $35. Several items such as art generally sold for $200 each</ref> While the sales have slowed down considerably, by [[March 2024]], the number increased to over 4200. As of [[December 2025]], the number has reached 7500.

	During the [[Jail Saga]], Chris continued communicating with them, [[OfficialCWCmart Jail Art\|mailing them art from jail]], which they sold via [[OfficialCWCmart]] with Chris's permission. They were one of Chris's only contacts other than [[Barbara Chandler\|his mother]] and [[David Heilberg\|his lawyer]] during the last few months of his stay in jail. This is likely related to Chris's lawyer advising Praetor to keep Chris away from [[Weens\|ill-intentioned people]] (as people had attempted to troll Chris in jail for the past year), implying that Chris's lawyer deemed them trustworthy.		During the [[Jail Saga]], Chris continued communicating with them, [[OfficialCWCmart Jail Art\|mailing them art from jail]], which they sold via [[OfficialCWCmart]] with Chris's permission. They were one of Chris's only contacts other than [[Barbara Chandler\|his mother]] and [[David Heilberg\|his lawyer]] during the last few months of his stay in jail. This is likely related to Chris's lawyer advising Praetor to keep Chris away from [[Weens\|ill-intentioned people]] (as people had attempted to troll Chris in jail for the past year), implying that Chris's lawyer deemed them trustworthy.

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	'''Praetor LLC''' is a group of [[carpetbaggers]] and [[enablers]]. They first came into contact with [[Chris]] in [[September 2020]], introducing themselves at [[14 Branchland Court\|Chris's house]] with the aim of producing and selling ''[[Sonichu (comic)\|Sonichu]]'' and Chris-themed products in partnership with him. In early [[December 2020]], Praetor opened the ''[[OfficialCWCmart]]'' store on [[Etsy]], and using it began offering [[Sonichu medallions]] for sale, which were produced by the group and endorsed by Chris, and Chris was given a cut of the profits. Praetor has since expanded to other, more bizarre, products, some produced by the group, and others by Chris. Chris's ~~income split for products made by him is unknown~~. By [[2023]], OfficialCWCmart generated more than 3000 sales, giving them a minimum of between $49,905 and $116,000 in revenue, although their actual revenue is unknown but potentially higher.<ref>Of 3327 sales. Their lowest-priced item is $15, and a popular medallion item is $35. Several items such as art generally sold for $200 each</ref> While the sales have slowed down considerably, by [[March 2024]], the number increased to over 4200. As of [[December 2025]], the number has reached 7500.		'''Praetor LLC''' is a group of [[carpetbaggers]] and [[enablers]]. They first came into contact with [[Chris]] in [[September 2020]], introducing themselves at [[14 Branchland Court\|Chris's house]] with the aim of producing and selling ''[[Sonichu (comic)\|Sonichu]]'' and Chris-themed products in partnership with him. In early [[December 2020]], Praetor opened the ''[[OfficialCWCmart]]'' store on [[Etsy]], and using it began offering [[Sonichu medallions]] for sale, which were produced by the group and endorsed by Chris, and Chris was given a cut of the profits. Praetor has since expanded to other, more bizarre, products, some produced by the group, and others by Chris. According to Chris he receives all money from his own earnings - in [[March 2024]], in response to [[Gibi]] speculating that Praetor was taking about 10% of Chris's earnings, Chris shook his head and said he gets all the money.<ref>[[Christ Chan Live Stream: YouTube Video Watching]]</ref> By [[2023]], OfficialCWCmart generated more than 3000 sales, giving them a minimum of between $49,905 and $116,000 in revenue, although their actual revenue is unknown but potentially higher.<ref>Of 3327 sales. Their lowest-priced item is $15, and a popular medallion item is $35. Several items such as art generally sold for $200 each</ref> While the sales have slowed down considerably, by [[March 2024]], the number increased to over 4200. As of [[December 2025]], the number has reached 7500.

	During the [[Jail Saga]], Chris continued communicating with them, [[OfficialCWCmart Jail Art\|mailing them art from jail]], which they sold via [[OfficialCWCmart]] with Chris's permission. They were one of Chris's only contacts other than [[Barbara Chandler\|his mother]] and [[David Heilberg\|his lawyer]] during the last few months of his stay in jail. This is likely related to Chris's lawyer advising Praetor to keep Chris away from [[Weens\|ill-intentioned people]] (as people had attempted to troll Chris in jail for the past year), implying that Chris's lawyer deemed them trustworthy.		During the [[Jail Saga]], Chris continued communicating with them, [[OfficialCWCmart Jail Art\|mailing them art from jail]], which they sold via [[OfficialCWCmart]] with Chris's permission. They were one of Chris's only contacts other than [[Barbara Chandler\|his mother]] and [[David Heilberg\|his lawyer]] during the last few months of his stay in jail. This is likely related to Chris's lawyer advising Praetor to keep Chris away from [[Weens\|ill-intentioned people]] (as people had attempted to troll Chris in jail for the past year), implying that Chris's lawyer deemed them trustworthy.

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	'''Praetor LLC''' is a group of [[carpetbaggers]] and [[enablers]]. They first came into contact with [[Chris]] in [[September 2020]], introducing themselves at [[14 Branchland Court\|Chris's house]] with the aim of producing and selling ''[[Sonichu (comic)\|Sonichu]]'' and Chris-themed products in partnership with him. In early [[December 2020]], Praetor opened the ''[[OfficialCWCmart]]'' store on [[Etsy]], and using it began offering [[Sonichu medallions]] for sale, which were produced by the group and endorsed by Chris, and Chris was given a cut of the profits. Praetor has since expanded to other, more bizarre, products, some produced by the group, and others by Chris. According to Chris, he receives all money from his own earnings - in [[March 2024]], in response to [[GiBi]] speculating that Praetor was taking about 10% of Chris's earnings, Chris shook his head and said he gets all the money.<ref>[[Christ Chan Live Stream: YouTube Video Watching]]</ref> By [[2023]], OfficialCWCmart generated more than 3000 sales, giving them a minimum of between $49,905 and $116,000 in revenue, although their actual revenue is unknown but potentially higher.<ref>Of 3327 sales. Their lowest-priced item is $15, and a popular medallion item is $35. Several items such as art generally sold for $200 each</ref> While the sales have slowed down considerably, by [[March 2024]], the number increased to over 4200. As of [[December 2025]], the number has reached 7500.		'''Praetor LLC''' is a group of [[carpetbaggers]] and [[enablers]]. They first came into contact with <s>[[Spirit possession#Sonichu (15 April 2020 - 25 February 2021)\|Sonichu]]</s> [[Chris]] in [[September 2020]], introducing themselves at [[14 Branchland Court\|Chris's house]] with the aim of producing and selling ''[[Sonichu (comic)\|Sonichu]]'' and Chris-themed products in partnership with him. In early [[December 2020]], Praetor opened the ''[[OfficialCWCmart]]'' store on [[Etsy]], and using it began offering [[Sonichu medallions]] for sale, which were produced by the group and endorsed by Chris, and Chris was given a cut of the profits. Praetor has since expanded to other, more bizarre, products, some produced by the group, and others by Chris. According to Chris, he receives all money from his own earnings - in [[March 2024]], in response to [[GiBi]] speculating that Praetor was taking about 10% of Chris's earnings, Chris shook his head and said he gets all the money.<ref>[[Christ Chan Live Stream: YouTube Video Watching]]</ref> By [[2023]], OfficialCWCmart generated more than 3000 sales, giving them a minimum of between $49,905 and $116,000 in revenue, although their actual revenue is unknown but potentially higher.<ref>Of 3327 sales. Their lowest-priced item is $15, and a popular medallion item is $35. Several items such as art generally sold for $200 each</ref> While the sales have slowed down considerably, by [[March 2024]], the number increased to over 4200. As of [[December 2025]], the number has reached 7500.

	During the [[Jail Saga]], though they initially lost contact for a while,<ref>[[Jail Letter - 18 January 2022]], Chris mentions that he wishes to get back in contact with Praetor.</ref> Chris continued communicating with them, [[OfficialCWCmart Jail Art\|mailing them art from jail]], which they sold via [[OfficialCWCmart]] with Chris's permission. They were one of Chris's only contacts other than [[Barbara Chandler\|his mother]] and [[David Heilberg\|his lawyer]] during the last few months of his stay in jail. This is likely related to Chris's lawyer advising Praetor to keep Chris away from [[Weens\|ill-intentioned people]] (as people had attempted to troll Chris in jail for the past year), implying that Chris's lawyer deemed them trustworthy.		During the [[Jail Saga]], though they initially lost contact for a while,<ref>[[Jail Letter - 18 January 2022]], Chris mentions that he wishes to get back in contact with Praetor.</ref> Chris continued communicating with them, [[OfficialCWCmart Jail Art\|mailing them art from jail]], which they sold via [[OfficialCWCmart]] with Chris's permission. They were one of Chris's only contacts other than [[Barbara Chandler\|his mother]] and [[David Heilberg\|his lawyer]] during the last few months of his stay in jail. This is likely related to Chris's lawyer advising Praetor to keep Chris away from [[Weens\|ill-intentioned people]] (as people had attempted to troll Chris in jail for the past year), implying that Chris's lawyer deemed them trustworthy.
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	In [[June 2021]], a Christorian left a comment on Owen's [[Instagram]], writing:<ref name=oweninsta>[[:File:OwenInsta.png]]</ref>		In [[June 2021]], a Christorian left a comment on Owen's [[Instagram]], writing:<ref name=oweninsta>[[:File:OwenInsta.png]]</ref>

	{{~~quotebox~~\|Can’t believe such a pretty face could be such a scummy person. Trying to convince an autistic man to tease himself while simultaneously making thousands of dollars by using said autistic man’s internet notoriety}}		{{quoteboxgreen\|Can’t believe such a pretty face could be such a scummy person. Trying to convince an autistic man to tease himself while simultaneously making thousands of dollars by using said autistic man’s internet notoriety}}

	Owen responded to this:		Owen responded to this:
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	On 22 [[September 2020]], Chris made a post on [[The Place]] [[Discord]] server, where he mentioned that he was meeting with some "new associates."<ref name=placeassociates></ref> He mentions that they were going to talk about "the molding to mass produce the medallions, and possibly the figures, with optional Amiibo functions, in a little while." After being asked who these associates were, Chris refused to give their identities but gave details about their first interaction.		On 22 [[September 2020]], Chris made a post on [[The Place]] [[Discord]] server, where he mentioned that he was meeting with some "new associates."<ref name=placeassociates></ref> He mentions that they were going to talk about "the molding to mass produce the medallions, and possibly the figures, with optional Amiibo functions, in a little while." After being asked who these associates were, Chris refused to give their identities but gave details about their first interaction.

	On the 25th, Chris mentioned them to the [[Watchmen]] again, revealing their name as Praetor LLC<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Patreon_Troubles,_Chris's_Online_Social_Life,_%22The_Boys,%22_Praetor_LLC_Revealed\|Patreon Troubles, Chris's Online Social Life, The Boys, Praetor LLC Revealed]]</ref>. On 3 October, Chris mentioned to ~~them~~ that Praetor was helping him create a "lore bible."<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Lore_Bible_Discussion\|Lore Bible Discussion]]</ref>. On the 15th, Praetor's [[Discord]] account, ran by Caden Peck, joined the [[The Place]] Discord server, and answered the Watchmen's questions.<ref name =q&a></ref>		On the 25th, Chris mentioned them to the [[Watchmen]] again, revealing their name as Praetor LLC<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Patreon_Troubles,_Chris's_Online_Social_Life,_%22The_Boys,%22_Praetor_LLC_Revealed\|Patreon Troubles, Chris's Online Social Life, The Boys, Praetor LLC Revealed]]</ref>. On the 28th, Chris finally addressed the closure of his [[CWCville Shopping]] website in a tweet, and wrote that he was "presently in cooperation and works with our allies and circles of friends who will be selling the books, #TSSSF cards, and so on, on our behalf, with personal agreements and blessings."<ref>[[September 2020 social media posts#Cwcville Shopping's State and Future and Kiwi Farms Whining]]</ref> On 3 October, Chris mentioned to the Watchmen that Praetor was helping him create a "lore bible."<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Lore_Bible_Discussion\|Lore Bible Discussion]]</ref>. On the 15th, Praetor's [[Discord]] account, ran by Caden Peck, joined the [[The Place]] Discord server, and answered the Watchmen's questions.<ref name =q&a></ref>

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	{{main\|March 2023 Praetor Interview}}		{{main\|March 2023 Praetor Interview}}
	In [[March 2023]], Praetor had [[March 2023 Praetor Interview\|an interview]] with a [[Kiwi Farms]] user. In this interview, they ~~have~~ claimed that Chris calls them twice a week about the Etsy store. They also stated that the store has earned Chris a lot of money, despite him still being in jail by that time.		In [[March 2023]], Praetor had [[March 2023 Praetor Interview\|an interview]] with a [[CWCki]]/[[Kiwi Farms]] user. In this impromptu interview, they claimed that Chris calls them twice a week about the Etsy store. They also stated that the store has earned Chris a lot of money, despite him still being in jail by that time.

	{{quote\|Chris calls twice a week to deal with the store, as no listings are made with out his express oversight. As for the cease and desists, we'd just advise that folk stay out of any trouble. Chris's cash has been accumulating, as the money he gets from both the store and monthly disability hasn't been touched while incarcerated.\|Praetor}}		{{quote\|Chris calls twice a week to deal with the store, as no listings are made with out his express oversight. As for the cease and desists, we'd just advise that folk stay out of any trouble. Chris's cash has been accumulating, as the money he gets from both the store and [[Monthly tugboat\|monthly disability]] hasn't been touched while incarcerated.\|Praetor}}

	They have also stated that the reason Chris hasn't sent any letters or had any visitors is because [[David Heilberg]], Chris's lawyer, advised them to not let any "ill-meaning folk" near Chris.		They have also stated that the reason Chris hasn't sent any letters or had any visitors is because [[David Heilberg]], Chris's lawyer, advised them to not let any "ill-meaning folk" near Chris.