Talk:Aly Hirschberg - Revision history

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	*No, though I think Chris's word isn't worth much - could be his idea to obfuscate or Hirschberg instructed him to do so. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 21:07, 2 February 2020 (UTC)		*No, though I think Chris's word isn't worth much - could be his idea to obfuscate or Hirschberg instructed him to do so. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 21:07, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
	**You can see the problem; we have one unreliable autist's word against another's, with nothing firm to tilt the balance. Speculating about their		**You can see the problem; we have one unreliable autist's word against another's, with nothing firm to tilt the balance. Speculating about their motivations to lie is not our place, so I shall re-phrase relevant parts in this and other articles to match the uncertainty. [[User:ChanOfTartary\|ChanOfTartary]] ([[User talk:ChanOfTartary\|talk]]) 21:23, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
	motivations to lie is not our place, so I shall re-phrase relevant parts in this and other articles to match the uncertainty. [[User:ChanOfTartary\|ChanOfTartary]] ([[User talk:ChanOfTartary\|talk]]) 21:23, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

ChanOfTartary: /* Contradictory statements on scale of enabling */

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	*No, though I think Chris's word isn't worth much - could be his idea to obfuscate or Hirschberg instructed him to do so. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 21:07, 2 February 2020 (UTC)		*No, though I think Chris's word isn't worth much - could be his idea to obfuscate or Hirschberg instructed him to do so. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 21:07, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
			**You can see the problem; we have one unreliable autist's word against another's, with nothing firm to tilt the balance. Speculating about their
			motivations to lie is not our place, so I shall re-phrase relevant parts in this and other articles to match the uncertainty. [[User:ChanOfTartary\|ChanOfTartary]] ([[User talk:ChanOfTartary\|talk]]) 21:23, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Hurtful Truth Level: /* Contradictory statements on scale of enabling */

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	While trying to recover where on the Farms I had read that Hirschberg had indirectly paid for the Idea Guys to add that citation to the article, I discovered that Chris has ''denied'' that she is his 'generous donor' ([https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chandlers-sued-for-debt-megathread.55045/post-5947111 source]). Is there any substantial evidence beside her own testimony that Aly is indeed his main financial enabler? [[User:ChanOfTartary\|ChanOfTartary]] ([[User talk:ChanOfTartary\|talk]]) 20:50, 2 February 2020 (UTC)		While trying to recover where on the Farms I had read that Hirschberg had indirectly paid for the Idea Guys to add that citation to the article, I discovered that Chris has ''denied'' that she is his 'generous donor' ([https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chandlers-sued-for-debt-megathread.55045/post-5947111 source]). Is there any substantial evidence beside her own testimony that Aly is indeed his main financial enabler? [[User:ChanOfTartary\|ChanOfTartary]] ([[User talk:ChanOfTartary\|talk]]) 20:50, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

			*No, though I think Chris's word isn't worth much - could be his idea to obfuscate or Hirschberg instructed him to do so. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 21:07, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

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	:::::If I were to hypothetically go balls-deep into CWCism on Twitter and elsewhere, maybe start a fan site, etc... Would I be safe? I mean, a lot of people have close to Sockness's level of devotion in this community. [[User:AReasonableMan\|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan\|talk]]) 23:18, 8 October 2019 (UTC)		:::::If I were to hypothetically go balls-deep into CWCism on Twitter and elsewhere, maybe start a fan site, etc... Would I be safe? I mean, a lot of people have close to Sockness's level of devotion in this community. [[User:AReasonableMan\|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan\|talk]]) 23:18, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
	::::::As long as you keep a low profile then yes. At best you would been seen with disdain.-[[User:Larry the Larryhog\|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog\|talk]]) 00:05, 9 October 2019 (UTC)		::::::As long as you keep a low profile then yes. At best you would been seen with disdain.-[[User:Larry the Larryhog\|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog\|talk]]) 00:05, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

			== Contradictory statements on scale of enabling ==

			While trying to recover where on the Farms I had read that Hirschberg had indirectly paid for the Idea Guys to add that citation to the article, I discovered that Chris has ''denied'' that she is his 'generous donor' ([https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chandlers-sued-for-debt-megathread.55045/post-5947111 source]). Is there any substantial evidence beside her own testimony that Aly is indeed his main financial enabler? [[User:ChanOfTartary\|ChanOfTartary]] ([[User talk:ChanOfTartary\|talk]]) 20:50, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Larry the Larryhog at 00:05, 9 October 2019

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	::::My counterargument is that the reason why Aly is listed is because she has Sockness's level of devotion of Chris, has behavioral tendencies similar to Chris, and is mentioned by Chris himself. Additionally the Cwcki and Kiwi Farms follow a strict "don't touch the poop" policy, which we are to observe the lolcows and observe the lolcows only.-[[User:Larry the Larryhog\|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog\|talk]]) 02:50, 8 October 2019 (UTC)		::::My counterargument is that the reason why Aly is listed is because she has Sockness's level of devotion of Chris, has behavioral tendencies similar to Chris, and is mentioned by Chris himself. Additionally the Cwcki and Kiwi Farms follow a strict "don't touch the poop" policy, which we are to observe the lolcows and observe the lolcows only.-[[User:Larry the Larryhog\|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog\|talk]]) 02:50, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
	:::::If I were to hypothetically go balls-deep into CWCism on Twitter and elsewhere, maybe start a fan site, etc... Would I be safe? I mean, a lot of people have close to Sockness's level of devotion in this community. [[User:AReasonableMan\|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan\|talk]]) 23:18, 8 October 2019 (UTC)		:::::If I were to hypothetically go balls-deep into CWCism on Twitter and elsewhere, maybe start a fan site, etc... Would I be safe? I mean, a lot of people have close to Sockness's level of devotion in this community. [[User:AReasonableMan\|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan\|talk]]) 23:18, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
			::::::As long as you keep a low profile then yes. At best you would been seen with disdain.-[[User:Larry the Larryhog\|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog\|talk]]) 00:05, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

AReasonableMan: /* Why all the hate? */

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Why all the hate?

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	:::Is that a problem? The more that CWCki journalizes these people, the more discouraged the CWC community will be from engaging with Chris. I think that would be a shame. Jake, Saint, and Waterman don't give a fuck, but I think casual orbiters want to feel more invited. [[User:AReasonableMan\|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan\|talk]]) 21:31, 7 October 2019 (UTC)		:::Is that a problem? The more that CWCki journalizes these people, the more discouraged the CWC community will be from engaging with Chris. I think that would be a shame. Jake, Saint, and Waterman don't give a fuck, but I think casual orbiters want to feel more invited. [[User:AReasonableMan\|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan\|talk]]) 21:31, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
	::::My counterargument is that the reason why Aly is listed is because she has Sockness's level of devotion of Chris, has behavioral tendencies similar to Chris, and is mentioned by Chris himself. Additionally the Cwcki and Kiwi Farms follow a strict "don't touch the poop" policy, which we are to observe the lolcows and observe the lolcows only.-[[User:Larry the Larryhog\|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog\|talk]]) 02:50, 8 October 2019 (UTC)		::::My counterargument is that the reason why Aly is listed is because she has Sockness's level of devotion of Chris, has behavioral tendencies similar to Chris, and is mentioned by Chris himself. Additionally the Cwcki and Kiwi Farms follow a strict "don't touch the poop" policy, which we are to observe the lolcows and observe the lolcows only.-[[User:Larry the Larryhog\|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog\|talk]]) 02:50, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
			:::::If I were to hypothetically go balls-deep into CWCism on Twitter and elsewhere, maybe start a fan site, etc... Would I be safe? I mean, a lot of people have close to Sockness's level of devotion in this community. [[User:AReasonableMan\|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan\|talk]]) 23:18, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Larry the Larryhog at 02:50, 8 October 2019

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	::She is an enabler by giving Chris money and asspats. -[[User:Larry the Larryhog\|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog\|talk]]) 19:04, 7 October 2019 (UTC)		::She is an enabler by giving Chris money and asspats. -[[User:Larry the Larryhog\|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog\|talk]]) 19:04, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
	:::Is that a problem? The more that CWCki journalizes these people, the more discouraged the CWC community will be from engaging with Chris. I think that would be a shame. Jake, Saint, and Waterman don't give a fuck, but I think casual orbiters want to feel more invited. [[User:AReasonableMan\|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan\|talk]]) 21:31, 7 October 2019 (UTC)		:::Is that a problem? The more that CWCki journalizes these people, the more discouraged the CWC community will be from engaging with Chris. I think that would be a shame. Jake, Saint, and Waterman don't give a fuck, but I think casual orbiters want to feel more invited. [[User:AReasonableMan\|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan\|talk]]) 21:31, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
			::::My counterargument is that the reason why Aly is listed is because she has Sockness's level of devotion of Chris, has behavioral tendencies similar to Chris, and is mentioned by Chris himself. Additionally the Cwcki and Kiwi Farms follow a strict "don't touch the poop" policy, which we are to observe the lolcows and observe the lolcows only.-[[User:Larry the Larryhog\|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog\|talk]]) 02:50, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

AReasonableMan: /* Why all the hate? */

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Why all the hate?

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	This individual is just trying to spread Chris's love. What's up? [[User:AReasonableMan\|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan\|talk]]) 16:12, 7 October 2019 (UTC)		This individual is just trying to spread Chris's love. What's up? [[User:AReasonableMan\|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan\|talk]]) 16:12, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
	::She is an enabler by giving Chris money and asspats. -[[User:Larry the Larryhog\|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog\|talk]]) 19:04, 7 October 2019 (UTC)		::She is an enabler by giving Chris money and asspats. -[[User:Larry the Larryhog\|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog\|talk]]) 19:04, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
			:::Is that a problem? The more that CWCki journalizes these people, the more discouraged the CWC community will be from engaging with Chris. I think that would be a shame. Jake, Saint, and Waterman don't give a fuck, but I think casual orbiters want to feel more invited. [[User:AReasonableMan\|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan\|talk]]) 21:31, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Larry the Larryhog at 19:04, 7 October 2019

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	This individual is just trying to spread Chris's love. What's up? [[User:AReasonableMan\|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan\|talk]]) 16:12, 7 October 2019 (UTC)		This individual is just trying to spread Chris's love. What's up? [[User:AReasonableMan\|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan\|talk]]) 16:12, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
			::She is an enabler by giving Chris money and asspats. -[[User:Larry the Larryhog\|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog\|talk]]) 19:04, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

AReasonableMan: Created page with "==Why all the hate?== This individual is just trying to spread Chris's love. What's up? ~~~~"

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==Why all the hate?==
This individual is just trying to spread Chris's love. What's up? [[User:AReasonableMan|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan|talk]]) 16:12, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

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	::::My counterargument is that the reason why Aly is listed is because she has Sockness's level of devotion of Chris, has behavioral tendencies similar to Chris, and is mentioned by Chris himself. Additionally the Cwcki and Kiwi Farms follow a strict "don't touch the poop" policy, which we are to observe the lolcows and observe the lolcows only.-[[User:Larry the Larryhog\|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog\|talk]]) 02:50, 8 October 2019 (UTC)		::::My counterargument is that the reason why Aly is listed is because she has Sockness's level of devotion of Chris, has behavioral tendencies similar to Chris, and is mentioned by Chris himself. Additionally the Cwcki and Kiwi Farms follow a strict "don't touch the poop" policy, which we are to observe the lolcows and observe the lolcows only.-[[User:Larry the Larryhog\|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog\|talk]]) 02:50, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
	:::::If I were to hypothetically go balls-deep into CWCism on Twitter and elsewhere, maybe start a fan site, etc... Would I be safe? I mean, a lot of people have close to Sockness's level of devotion in this community. [[User:AReasonableMan\|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan\|talk]]) 23:18, 8 October 2019 (UTC)		:::::If I were to hypothetically go balls-deep into CWCism on Twitter and elsewhere, maybe start a fan site, etc... Would I be safe? I mean, a lot of people have close to Sockness's level of devotion in this community. [[User:AReasonableMan\|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan\|talk]]) 23:18, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
			::::::As long as you keep a low profile then yes. At best you would been seen with disdain.-[[User:Larry the Larryhog\|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog\|talk]]) 00:05, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

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	:::Is that a problem? The more that CWCki journalizes these people, the more discouraged the CWC community will be from engaging with Chris. I think that would be a shame. Jake, Saint, and Waterman don't give a fuck, but I think casual orbiters want to feel more invited. [[User:AReasonableMan\|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan\|talk]]) 21:31, 7 October 2019 (UTC)		:::Is that a problem? The more that CWCki journalizes these people, the more discouraged the CWC community will be from engaging with Chris. I think that would be a shame. Jake, Saint, and Waterman don't give a fuck, but I think casual orbiters want to feel more invited. [[User:AReasonableMan\|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan\|talk]]) 21:31, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
	::::My counterargument is that the reason why Aly is listed is because she has Sockness's level of devotion of Chris, has behavioral tendencies similar to Chris, and is mentioned by Chris himself. Additionally the Cwcki and Kiwi Farms follow a strict "don't touch the poop" policy, which we are to observe the lolcows and observe the lolcows only.-[[User:Larry the Larryhog\|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog\|talk]]) 02:50, 8 October 2019 (UTC)		::::My counterargument is that the reason why Aly is listed is because she has Sockness's level of devotion of Chris, has behavioral tendencies similar to Chris, and is mentioned by Chris himself. Additionally the Cwcki and Kiwi Farms follow a strict "don't touch the poop" policy, which we are to observe the lolcows and observe the lolcows only.-[[User:Larry the Larryhog\|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog\|talk]]) 02:50, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
			:::::If I were to hypothetically go balls-deep into CWCism on Twitter and elsewhere, maybe start a fan site, etc... Would I be safe? I mean, a lot of people have close to Sockness's level of devotion in this community. [[User:AReasonableMan\|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan\|talk]]) 23:18, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

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	::She is an enabler by giving Chris money and asspats. -[[User:Larry the Larryhog\|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog\|talk]]) 19:04, 7 October 2019 (UTC)		::She is an enabler by giving Chris money and asspats. -[[User:Larry the Larryhog\|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog\|talk]]) 19:04, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
	:::Is that a problem? The more that CWCki journalizes these people, the more discouraged the CWC community will be from engaging with Chris. I think that would be a shame. Jake, Saint, and Waterman don't give a fuck, but I think casual orbiters want to feel more invited. [[User:AReasonableMan\|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan\|talk]]) 21:31, 7 October 2019 (UTC)		:::Is that a problem? The more that CWCki journalizes these people, the more discouraged the CWC community will be from engaging with Chris. I think that would be a shame. Jake, Saint, and Waterman don't give a fuck, but I think casual orbiters want to feel more invited. [[User:AReasonableMan\|AReasonableMan]] ([[User talk:AReasonableMan\|talk]]) 21:31, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
			::::My counterargument is that the reason why Aly is listed is because she has Sockness's level of devotion of Chris, has behavioral tendencies similar to Chris, and is mentioned by Chris himself. Additionally the Cwcki and Kiwi Farms follow a strict "don't touch the poop" policy, which we are to observe the lolcows and observe the lolcows only.-[[User:Larry the Larryhog\|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog\|talk]]) 02:50, 8 October 2019 (UTC)