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	**Thanks for the link. I read it - there's an exercise called "Repetition", which means to repeat a phrase said by the doctor. At the same time, I didn't find an exercise which consisted of the patient creating their own phrase. Please, elaborate, what exercise did you mean? --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 00:44, 27 December 2009 (CET)		**Thanks for the link. I read it - there's an exercise called "Repetition", which means to repeat a phrase said by the doctor. At the same time, I didn't find an exercise which consisted of the patient creating their own phrase. Please, elaborate, what exercise did you mean? --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 00:44, 27 December 2009 (CET)
	::*The Folstein test (aka the Mini-Mental State Examination) is apparently public domain in some countries but copyrighted in the US or something like that. I was able to find a copy of it [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgeriatrics.uthscsa.edu%2Ftools%2FMMSE%2520(english-spanish).pdf&ei=oKM2S8ykD43alAfKvbGhBw&usg=AFQjCNGL7xIrcQQKfFdRX-1bgtVdjazJ_g&sig2=h8dNHdyHZXLD-d62ivj_Bg here], [http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache%3Ab1CyZneucGgJ%3Awww.progettoalzheimer.org%2Fmmse.pdf+mini-mental+state+examination+form&hl=en&gl=us&sig=AHIEtbRDx1Irk7S7xLMnquqVWxLxxPTSkg&pli=1 here], and [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Futswfm.googlepages.com%2FNH_MMSE.pdf&ei=dKQ2S7ToDZLslAfu4O2jBw&usg=AFQjCNEvjXB-KeGTkuYXxVDMS6a44UbdTw&sig2=5yLfV0i2HKnn8DSy-rFgUw here] (the latter explaining the score a bit). The repetitive question in all three seems to have them repeat the phrase "No ifs, ands, or buts." If you mean a recall question like the apple, chair, book thing then in those cases they're limited to three words. Question 10 asks the patient to write a sentence of their choice, and Chris decides to recycle his material. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 01:16, 27 December 2009 (CET)		::*The Folstein test (aka the Mini-Mental State Examination) is apparently public domain in some countries but copyrighted in the US or something like that. I was able to find a copy of it [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgeriatrics.uthscsa.edu%2Ftools%2FMMSE%2520(english-spanish).pdf&ei=oKM2S8ykD43alAfKvbGhBw&usg=AFQjCNGL7xIrcQQKfFdRX-1bgtVdjazJ_g&sig2=h8dNHdyHZXLD-d62ivj_Bg here], [http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache%3Ab1CyZneucGgJ%3Awww.progettoalzheimer.org%2Fmmse.pdf+mini-mental+state+examination+form&hl=en&gl=us&sig=AHIEtbRDx1Irk7S7xLMnquqVWxLxxPTSkg&pli=1 here], and [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Futswfm.googlepages.com%2FNH_MMSE.pdf&ei=dKQ2S7ToDZLslAfu4O2jBw&usg=AFQjCNEvjXB-KeGTkuYXxVDMS6a44UbdTw&sig2=5yLfV0i2HKnn8DSy-rFgUw here] (the latter explaining the score a bit). The repetitive question in all three seems to have them repeat the phrase "No ifs, ands, or buts." If you mean a recall question like the apple, chair, book thing then in those cases they're limited to three words. Question 10 asks the patient to write a sentence of their choice, and Chris decides to recycle his material. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 01:16, 27 December 2009 (CET)
			:::*Okay, I see... Hm, looks like Chris really could've made this phrase. OK, you win :) However, lookie what I found! [http://www.answers.com/topic/the-dick-van-dyke-show-when-a-bowling-pin-talks-listen-tv-episode (link)] Looks like "Uncle Spunky" was a character from "Dick van Dyke's Show"! And Chris is known for being a fan of Dick van Dyke. I haven't seen the show, so I don't know if Uncle Spunky was a monkey, or not... Anyway, what do you think about this? --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 09:20, 27 December 2009 (CET)

Champthom: /* "Uncle Spunky is a Funky Monkey" */

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	*From what the more educated e-psychiatrists on Krapple and PVCC, the question is just to have the patient make up any sentence that comes to mind for them, just to test very basic cognitive thought (see [[Wikipedia:Mini-mental_state_examination\|here]] for a bit about the test in question). I don't think this is something a psychiatrist made up but rather Chris's random access humor (IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE "SPUNKY" RHYMES WITH BOTH "MONKEY" AND "FUNKY" AND "MONKEY" IS SO FUNNY LOLOLOLOLOL). tl;dr - Chris recycles material, even IRL.--[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 21:57, 26 December 2009 (CET)		*From what the more educated e-psychiatrists on Krapple and PVCC, the question is just to have the patient make up any sentence that comes to mind for them, just to test very basic cognitive thought (see [[Wikipedia:Mini-mental_state_examination\|here]] for a bit about the test in question). I don't think this is something a psychiatrist made up but rather Chris's random access humor (IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE "SPUNKY" RHYMES WITH BOTH "MONKEY" AND "FUNKY" AND "MONKEY" IS SO FUNNY LOLOLOLOLOL). tl;dr - Chris recycles material, even IRL.--[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 21:57, 26 December 2009 (CET)
	**Thanks for the link. I read it - there's an exercise called "Repetition", which means to repeat a phrase said by the doctor. At the same time, I didn't find an exercise which consisted of the patient creating their own phrase. Please, elaborate, what exercise did you mean? --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 00:44, 27 December 2009 (CET)		**Thanks for the link. I read it - there's an exercise called "Repetition", which means to repeat a phrase said by the doctor. At the same time, I didn't find an exercise which consisted of the patient creating their own phrase. Please, elaborate, what exercise did you mean? --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 00:44, 27 December 2009 (CET)
			::*The Folstein test (aka the Mini-Mental State Examination) is apparently public domain in some countries but copyrighted in the US or something like that. I was able to find a copy of it [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgeriatrics.uthscsa.edu%2Ftools%2FMMSE%2520(english-spanish).pdf&ei=oKM2S8ykD43alAfKvbGhBw&usg=AFQjCNGL7xIrcQQKfFdRX-1bgtVdjazJ_g&sig2=h8dNHdyHZXLD-d62ivj_Bg here], [http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache%3Ab1CyZneucGgJ%3Awww.progettoalzheimer.org%2Fmmse.pdf+mini-mental+state+examination+form&hl=en&gl=us&sig=AHIEtbRDx1Irk7S7xLMnquqVWxLxxPTSkg&pli=1 here], and [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Futswfm.googlepages.com%2FNH_MMSE.pdf&ei=dKQ2S7ToDZLslAfu4O2jBw&usg=AFQjCNEvjXB-KeGTkuYXxVDMS6a44UbdTw&sig2=5yLfV0i2HKnn8DSy-rFgUw here] (the latter explaining the score a bit). The repetitive question in all three seems to have them repeat the phrase "No ifs, ands, or buts." If you mean a recall question like the apple, chair, book thing then in those cases they're limited to three words. Question 10 asks the patient to write a sentence of their choice, and Chris decides to recycle his material. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 01:16, 27 December 2009 (CET)

VanKrause at 23:44, 26 December 2009

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	*From what the more educated e-psychiatrists on Krapple and PVCC, the question is just to have the patient make up any sentence that comes to mind for them, just to test very basic cognitive thought (see [[Wikipedia:Mini-mental_state_examination\|here]] for a bit about the test in question). I don't think this is something a psychiatrist made up but rather Chris's random access humor (IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE "SPUNKY" RHYMES WITH BOTH "MONKEY" AND "FUNKY" AND "MONKEY" IS SO FUNNY LOLOLOLOLOL). tl;dr - Chris recycles material, even IRL.--[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 21:57, 26 December 2009 (CET)		*From what the more educated e-psychiatrists on Krapple and PVCC, the question is just to have the patient make up any sentence that comes to mind for them, just to test very basic cognitive thought (see [[Wikipedia:Mini-mental_state_examination\|here]] for a bit about the test in question). I don't think this is something a psychiatrist made up but rather Chris's random access humor (IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE "SPUNKY" RHYMES WITH BOTH "MONKEY" AND "FUNKY" AND "MONKEY" IS SO FUNNY LOLOLOLOLOL). tl;dr - Chris recycles material, even IRL.--[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 21:57, 26 December 2009 (CET)
			**Thanks for the link. I read it - there's an exercise called "Repetition", which means to repeat a phrase said by the doctor. At the same time, I didn't find an exercise which consisted of the patient creating their own phrase. Please, elaborate, what exercise did you mean? --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 00:44, 27 December 2009 (CET)

Champthom: /* "Uncle Spunky is a Funky Monkey" */

2009-12-26T20:57:46Z

"Uncle Spunky is a Funky Monkey"

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	*...Aaand, looks like we got the full story on that one. Thanks! Like all things about Chris, it's at the same time sad and somewhat hilarious. I've added it to the [[Random-access humor]] page. --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 09:38, 26 December 2009 (CET)		*...Aaand, looks like we got the full story on that one. Thanks! Like all things about Chris, it's at the same time sad and somewhat hilarious. I've added it to the [[Random-access humor]] page. --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 09:38, 26 December 2009 (CET)

	*From what the more educated e-psychiatrists on Krapple and PVCC, the question is just to have the patient make up any sentence that comes to mind for them, just to test very basic cognitive thought (see [[Wikipedia:Mini-mental_state_examination\|here]] for a bit about the test in question). I don't think this is something a psychiatrist made up but rather Chris's random access humor (IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE "SPUNKY" RHYMES WITH BOTH "MONKEY" AND "FUNKY" AND "MONKEY" IS SO FUNNY LOLOLOLOLOL). tl;dr - Chris recycles material, even IRL.		*From what the more educated e-psychiatrists on Krapple and PVCC, the question is just to have the patient make up any sentence that comes to mind for them, just to test very basic cognitive thought (see [[Wikipedia:Mini-mental_state_examination\|here]] for a bit about the test in question). I don't think this is something a psychiatrist made up but rather Chris's random access humor (IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE "SPUNKY" RHYMES WITH BOTH "MONKEY" AND "FUNKY" AND "MONKEY" IS SO FUNNY LOLOLOLOLOL). tl;dr - Chris recycles material, even IRL.--[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 21:57, 26 December 2009 (CET)

Champthom: /* "Uncle Spunky is a Funky Monkey" */

2009-12-26T20:57:31Z

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	I'd like to provide some input or possible clarification on the "Uncle Spunky" part -- judging from the Wikipedia article on the psychological test given and the mention of a specific sentence, it sounds like a similar test I was given when I started seeing a psychologist for clinical depression. I had mentioned to her that at times I had trouble focusing or that my mind wandered, and she asked me to remember three specific words and to repeat them back to her: "Apple, Book, Chair." She then asked me to count backwards from 100 as quickly as I could, which I did. After that, she asked me if I remembered those three words from the beginning of the test (which I did, so apparently I didn't have a serious issue with short-term memory). I am guessing that "Uncle Spunky is a Funky Monkey" was Chris's test phrase that he had to remember while performing some mental tasks - it has a silly rhyming element that makes it fairly easy to remember, and I suppose if after a string of math problems or arithmetic exercises Chris couldn't remember the phrase, it would point at some kind of focusing issues or short term memory problems. In any case, I think this evaluation is fascinating. It's not every day that someone really throws their life out on the internet for all to see and study. [[User:Karloffsidekick\|Karloffsidekick]] 09:24, 26 December 2009 (CET)		I'd like to provide some input or possible clarification on the "Uncle Spunky" part -- judging from the Wikipedia article on the psychological test given and the mention of a specific sentence, it sounds like a similar test I was given when I started seeing a psychologist for clinical depression. I had mentioned to her that at times I had trouble focusing or that my mind wandered, and she asked me to remember three specific words and to repeat them back to her: "Apple, Book, Chair." She then asked me to count backwards from 100 as quickly as I could, which I did. After that, she asked me if I remembered those three words from the beginning of the test (which I did, so apparently I didn't have a serious issue with short-term memory). I am guessing that "Uncle Spunky is a Funky Monkey" was Chris's test phrase that he had to remember while performing some mental tasks - it has a silly rhyming element that makes it fairly easy to remember, and I suppose if after a string of math problems or arithmetic exercises Chris couldn't remember the phrase, it would point at some kind of focusing issues or short term memory problems. In any case, I think this evaluation is fascinating. It's not every day that someone really throws their life out on the internet for all to see and study. [[User:Karloffsidekick\|Karloffsidekick]] 09:24, 26 December 2009 (CET)
	*...Aaand, looks like we got the full story on that one. Thanks! Like all things about Chris, it's at the same time sad and somewhat hilarious. I've added it to the [[Random-access humor]] page. --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 09:38, 26 December 2009 (CET)		*...Aaand, looks like we got the full story on that one. Thanks! Like all things about Chris, it's at the same time sad and somewhat hilarious. I've added it to the [[Random-access humor]] page. --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 09:38, 26 December 2009 (CET)

			*From what the more educated e-psychiatrists on Krapple and PVCC, the question is just to have the patient make up any sentence that comes to mind for them, just to test very basic cognitive thought (see [[Wikipedia:Mini-mental_state_examination\|here]] for a bit about the test in question). I don't think this is something a psychiatrist made up but rather Chris's random access humor (IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE "SPUNKY" RHYMES WITH BOTH "MONKEY" AND "FUNKY" AND "MONKEY" IS SO FUNNY LOLOLOLOLOL). tl;dr - Chris recycles material, even IRL.

VanKrause at 08:38, 26 December 2009

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	I'd like to provide some input or possible clarification on the "Uncle Spunky" part -- judging from the Wikipedia article on the psychological test given and the mention of a specific sentence, it sounds like a similar test I was given when I started seeing a psychologist for clinical depression. I had mentioned to her that at times I had trouble focusing or that my mind wandered, and she asked me to remember three specific words and to repeat them back to her: "Apple, Book, Chair." She then asked me to count backwards from 100 as quickly as I could, which I did. After that, she asked me if I remembered those three words from the beginning of the test (which I did, so apparently I didn't have a serious issue with short-term memory). I am guessing that "Uncle Spunky is a Funky Monkey" was Chris's test phrase that he had to remember while performing some mental tasks - it has a silly rhyming element that makes it fairly easy to remember, and I suppose if after a string of math problems or arithmetic exercises Chris couldn't remember the phrase, it would point at some kind of focusing issues or short term memory problems. In any case, I think this evaluation is fascinating. It's not every day that someone really throws their life out on the internet for all to see and study. [[User:Karloffsidekick\|Karloffsidekick]] 09:24, 26 December 2009 (CET)		I'd like to provide some input or possible clarification on the "Uncle Spunky" part -- judging from the Wikipedia article on the psychological test given and the mention of a specific sentence, it sounds like a similar test I was given when I started seeing a psychologist for clinical depression. I had mentioned to her that at times I had trouble focusing or that my mind wandered, and she asked me to remember three specific words and to repeat them back to her: "Apple, Book, Chair." She then asked me to count backwards from 100 as quickly as I could, which I did. After that, she asked me if I remembered those three words from the beginning of the test (which I did, so apparently I didn't have a serious issue with short-term memory). I am guessing that "Uncle Spunky is a Funky Monkey" was Chris's test phrase that he had to remember while performing some mental tasks - it has a silly rhyming element that makes it fairly easy to remember, and I suppose if after a string of math problems or arithmetic exercises Chris couldn't remember the phrase, it would point at some kind of focusing issues or short term memory problems. In any case, I think this evaluation is fascinating. It's not every day that someone really throws their life out on the internet for all to see and study. [[User:Karloffsidekick\|Karloffsidekick]] 09:24, 26 December 2009 (CET)
			*...Aaand, looks like we got the full story on that one. Thanks! Like all things about Chris, it's at the same time sad and somewhat hilarious. I've added it to the [[Random-access humor]] page. --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 09:38, 26 December 2009 (CET)

VanKrause: /* "Uncle Spunky is a Funky Monkey" */

2009-12-26T08:24:01Z

"Uncle Spunky is a Funky Monkey"

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	== "Uncle Spunky is a Funky Monkey" ==		== "Uncle Spunky is a Funky Monkey" ==

	I'd like to provide some input or possible clarification on the "Uncle Spunky" part -- judging from the Wikipedia article on the psychological test given and the mention of a specific sentence, it sounds like a similar test I was given when I started seeing a psychologist for clinical depression. I had mentioned to her that at times I had trouble focusing or that my mind wandered, and she asked me to remember three specific words and to repeat them back to her: "Apple, Book, Chair." She then asked me to count backwards from 100 as quickly as I could, which I did. After that, she asked me if I remembered those three words from the beginning of the test (which I did, so apparently I didn't have a serious issue with short-term memory). I am guessing that "Uncle Spunky is a Funky Monkey" was Chris's test phrase that he had to remember while performing some mental tasks - it has a silly rhyming element that makes it fairly easy to remember, and I suppose if after a string of math problems or arithmetic exercises Chris couldn't remember the phrase, it would point at some kind of focusing issues or short term memory problems. In any case, I think this evaluation is fascinating. It's not every day that someone really throws their life out on the internet for all to see and study.		I'd like to provide some input or possible clarification on the "Uncle Spunky" part -- judging from the Wikipedia article on the psychological test given and the mention of a specific sentence, it sounds like a similar test I was given when I started seeing a psychologist for clinical depression. I had mentioned to her that at times I had trouble focusing or that my mind wandered, and she asked me to remember three specific words and to repeat them back to her: "Apple, Book, Chair." She then asked me to count backwards from 100 as quickly as I could, which I did. After that, she asked me if I remembered those three words from the beginning of the test (which I did, so apparently I didn't have a serious issue with short-term memory). I am guessing that "Uncle Spunky is a Funky Monkey" was Chris's test phrase that he had to remember while performing some mental tasks - it has a silly rhyming element that makes it fairly easy to remember, and I suppose if after a string of math problems or arithmetic exercises Chris couldn't remember the phrase, it would point at some kind of focusing issues or short term memory problems. In any case, I think this evaluation is fascinating. It's not every day that someone really throws their life out on the internet for all to see and study. [[User:Karloffsidekick\|Karloffsidekick]] 09:24, 26 December 2009 (CET)

VanKrause: New section: "Uncle Spunky is a Funky Monkey"

2009-12-26T08:21:10Z

New section: "Uncle Spunky is a Funky Monkey"

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	:*GI JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOE. Really, not a huge deal, just this isn't the first time I've heard people allege that certain documents are fake (like [[Sarah Reveals Herself\|this]]) when I can ensure you that any historical document that is on the CWCki is verified. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 04:18, 24 November 2009 (CET)		:*GI JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOE. Really, not a huge deal, just this isn't the first time I've heard people allege that certain documents are fake (like [[Sarah Reveals Herself\|this]]) when I can ensure you that any historical document that is on the CWCki is verified. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 04:18, 24 November 2009 (CET)
	:**To be fair, it's better that people are being skeptical about this document rather than accepting it always at face value. Being skeptical means you're interested in the source, and if people weren't as skeptical on here as they are, the CWCki wouldn't be such a good source of factual information as it is, as people could submit pretty much anything if stuff is accepted at face value. Besides, this is a REALLY awesome find after all, I'm not surprised people would question its veracity since it's almost too good to be true. [[User:SirCucumber\|SirCucumber]] 22:25, 25 November 2009 (CET)		:**To be fair, it's better that people are being skeptical about this document rather than accepting it always at face value. Being skeptical means you're interested in the source, and if people weren't as skeptical on here as they are, the CWCki wouldn't be such a good source of factual information as it is, as people could submit pretty much anything if stuff is accepted at face value. Besides, this is a REALLY awesome find after all, I'm not surprised people would question its veracity since it's almost too good to be true. [[User:SirCucumber\|SirCucumber]] 22:25, 25 November 2009 (CET)

			== "Uncle Spunky is a Funky Monkey" ==

			I'd like to provide some input or possible clarification on the "Uncle Spunky" part -- judging from the Wikipedia article on the psychological test given and the mention of a specific sentence, it sounds like a similar test I was given when I started seeing a psychologist for clinical depression. I had mentioned to her that at times I had trouble focusing or that my mind wandered, and she asked me to remember three specific words and to repeat them back to her: "Apple, Book, Chair." She then asked me to count backwards from 100 as quickly as I could, which I did. After that, she asked me if I remembered those three words from the beginning of the test (which I did, so apparently I didn't have a serious issue with short-term memory). I am guessing that "Uncle Spunky is a Funky Monkey" was Chris's test phrase that he had to remember while performing some mental tasks - it has a silly rhyming element that makes it fairly easy to remember, and I suppose if after a string of math problems or arithmetic exercises Chris couldn't remember the phrase, it would point at some kind of focusing issues or short term memory problems. In any case, I think this evaluation is fascinating. It's not every day that someone really throws their life out on the internet for all to see and study.

VanKrause: Ignore that last edit, hit save page by accident. o_o;

2009-11-25T21:25:37Z

Ignore that last edit, hit save page by accident. o_o;

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	* Easy Champ, I have no doubt that nine out of ten people would call this authentic at first sight. I know you check your facts and you only allow official diagnoses in here, it's just that some people don't know what a psychiatric evaluation is supposed to look like. Now they know. And knowing is half the battle. --[[User:Hayate666\|Hayate666]] 21:36, 23 November 2009 (CET)		* Easy Champ, I have no doubt that nine out of ten people would call this authentic at first sight. I know you check your facts and you only allow official diagnoses in here, it's just that some people don't know what a psychiatric evaluation is supposed to look like. Now they know. And knowing is half the battle. --[[User:Hayate666\|Hayate666]] 21:36, 23 November 2009 (CET)
	:*GI JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOE. Really, not a huge deal, just this isn't the first time I've heard people allege that certain documents are fake (like [[Sarah Reveals Herself\|this]]) when I can ensure you that any historical document that is on the CWCki is verified. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 04:18, 24 November 2009 (CET)		:*GI JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOE. Really, not a huge deal, just this isn't the first time I've heard people allege that certain documents are fake (like [[Sarah Reveals Herself\|this]]) when I can ensure you that any historical document that is on the CWCki is verified. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 04:18, 24 November 2009 (CET)
	:**d		:**To be fair, it's better that people are being skeptical about this document rather than accepting it always at face value. Being skeptical means you're interested in the source, and if people weren't as skeptical on here as they are, the CWCki wouldn't be such a good source of factual information as it is, as people could submit pretty much anything if stuff is accepted at face value. Besides, this is a REALLY awesome find after all, I'm not surprised people would question its veracity since it's almost too good to be true. [[User:SirCucumber\|SirCucumber]] 22:25, 25 November 2009 (CET)

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	**Thanks for the link. I read it - there's an exercise called "Repetition", which means to repeat a phrase said by the doctor. At the same time, I didn't find an exercise which consisted of the patient creating their own phrase. Please, elaborate, what exercise did you mean? --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 00:44, 27 December 2009 (CET)		**Thanks for the link. I read it - there's an exercise called "Repetition", which means to repeat a phrase said by the doctor. At the same time, I didn't find an exercise which consisted of the patient creating their own phrase. Please, elaborate, what exercise did you mean? --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 00:44, 27 December 2009 (CET)
	::*The Folstein test (aka the Mini-Mental State Examination) is apparently public domain in some countries but copyrighted in the US or something like that. I was able to find a copy of it [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgeriatrics.uthscsa.edu%2Ftools%2FMMSE%2520(english-spanish).pdf&ei=oKM2S8ykD43alAfKvbGhBw&usg=AFQjCNGL7xIrcQQKfFdRX-1bgtVdjazJ_g&sig2=h8dNHdyHZXLD-d62ivj_Bg here], [http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache%3Ab1CyZneucGgJ%3Awww.progettoalzheimer.org%2Fmmse.pdf+mini-mental+state+examination+form&hl=en&gl=us&sig=AHIEtbRDx1Irk7S7xLMnquqVWxLxxPTSkg&pli=1 here], and [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Futswfm.googlepages.com%2FNH_MMSE.pdf&ei=dKQ2S7ToDZLslAfu4O2jBw&usg=AFQjCNEvjXB-KeGTkuYXxVDMS6a44UbdTw&sig2=5yLfV0i2HKnn8DSy-rFgUw here] (the latter explaining the score a bit). The repetitive question in all three seems to have them repeat the phrase "No ifs, ands, or buts." If you mean a recall question like the apple, chair, book thing then in those cases they're limited to three words. Question 10 asks the patient to write a sentence of their choice, and Chris decides to recycle his material. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 01:16, 27 December 2009 (CET)		::*The Folstein test (aka the Mini-Mental State Examination) is apparently public domain in some countries but copyrighted in the US or something like that. I was able to find a copy of it [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgeriatrics.uthscsa.edu%2Ftools%2FMMSE%2520(english-spanish).pdf&ei=oKM2S8ykD43alAfKvbGhBw&usg=AFQjCNGL7xIrcQQKfFdRX-1bgtVdjazJ_g&sig2=h8dNHdyHZXLD-d62ivj_Bg here], [http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache%3Ab1CyZneucGgJ%3Awww.progettoalzheimer.org%2Fmmse.pdf+mini-mental+state+examination+form&hl=en&gl=us&sig=AHIEtbRDx1Irk7S7xLMnquqVWxLxxPTSkg&pli=1 here], and [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Futswfm.googlepages.com%2FNH_MMSE.pdf&ei=dKQ2S7ToDZLslAfu4O2jBw&usg=AFQjCNEvjXB-KeGTkuYXxVDMS6a44UbdTw&sig2=5yLfV0i2HKnn8DSy-rFgUw here] (the latter explaining the score a bit). The repetitive question in all three seems to have them repeat the phrase "No ifs, ands, or buts." If you mean a recall question like the apple, chair, book thing then in those cases they're limited to three words. Question 10 asks the patient to write a sentence of their choice, and Chris decides to recycle his material. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 01:16, 27 December 2009 (CET)
			:::*Okay, I see... Hm, looks like Chris really could've made this phrase. OK, you win :) However, lookie what I found! [http://www.answers.com/topic/the-dick-van-dyke-show-when-a-bowling-pin-talks-listen-tv-episode (link)] Looks like "Uncle Spunky" was a character from "Dick van Dyke's Show"! And Chris is known for being a fan of Dick van Dyke. I haven't seen the show, so I don't know if Uncle Spunky was a monkey, or not... Anyway, what do you think about this? --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 09:20, 27 December 2009 (CET)

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	*From what the more educated e-psychiatrists on Krapple and PVCC, the question is just to have the patient make up any sentence that comes to mind for them, just to test very basic cognitive thought (see [[Wikipedia:Mini-mental_state_examination\|here]] for a bit about the test in question). I don't think this is something a psychiatrist made up but rather Chris's random access humor (IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE "SPUNKY" RHYMES WITH BOTH "MONKEY" AND "FUNKY" AND "MONKEY" IS SO FUNNY LOLOLOLOLOL). tl;dr - Chris recycles material, even IRL.--[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 21:57, 26 December 2009 (CET)		*From what the more educated e-psychiatrists on Krapple and PVCC, the question is just to have the patient make up any sentence that comes to mind for them, just to test very basic cognitive thought (see [[Wikipedia:Mini-mental_state_examination\|here]] for a bit about the test in question). I don't think this is something a psychiatrist made up but rather Chris's random access humor (IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE "SPUNKY" RHYMES WITH BOTH "MONKEY" AND "FUNKY" AND "MONKEY" IS SO FUNNY LOLOLOLOLOL). tl;dr - Chris recycles material, even IRL.--[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 21:57, 26 December 2009 (CET)
	**Thanks for the link. I read it - there's an exercise called "Repetition", which means to repeat a phrase said by the doctor. At the same time, I didn't find an exercise which consisted of the patient creating their own phrase. Please, elaborate, what exercise did you mean? --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 00:44, 27 December 2009 (CET)		**Thanks for the link. I read it - there's an exercise called "Repetition", which means to repeat a phrase said by the doctor. At the same time, I didn't find an exercise which consisted of the patient creating their own phrase. Please, elaborate, what exercise did you mean? --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 00:44, 27 December 2009 (CET)
			::*The Folstein test (aka the Mini-Mental State Examination) is apparently public domain in some countries but copyrighted in the US or something like that. I was able to find a copy of it [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgeriatrics.uthscsa.edu%2Ftools%2FMMSE%2520(english-spanish).pdf&ei=oKM2S8ykD43alAfKvbGhBw&usg=AFQjCNGL7xIrcQQKfFdRX-1bgtVdjazJ_g&sig2=h8dNHdyHZXLD-d62ivj_Bg here], [http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache%3Ab1CyZneucGgJ%3Awww.progettoalzheimer.org%2Fmmse.pdf+mini-mental+state+examination+form&hl=en&gl=us&sig=AHIEtbRDx1Irk7S7xLMnquqVWxLxxPTSkg&pli=1 here], and [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Futswfm.googlepages.com%2FNH_MMSE.pdf&ei=dKQ2S7ToDZLslAfu4O2jBw&usg=AFQjCNEvjXB-KeGTkuYXxVDMS6a44UbdTw&sig2=5yLfV0i2HKnn8DSy-rFgUw here] (the latter explaining the score a bit). The repetitive question in all three seems to have them repeat the phrase "No ifs, ands, or buts." If you mean a recall question like the apple, chair, book thing then in those cases they're limited to three words. Question 10 asks the patient to write a sentence of their choice, and Chris decides to recycle his material. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 01:16, 27 December 2009 (CET)

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	I'd like to provide some input or possible clarification on the "Uncle Spunky" part -- judging from the Wikipedia article on the psychological test given and the mention of a specific sentence, it sounds like a similar test I was given when I started seeing a psychologist for clinical depression. I had mentioned to her that at times I had trouble focusing or that my mind wandered, and she asked me to remember three specific words and to repeat them back to her: "Apple, Book, Chair." She then asked me to count backwards from 100 as quickly as I could, which I did. After that, she asked me if I remembered those three words from the beginning of the test (which I did, so apparently I didn't have a serious issue with short-term memory). I am guessing that "Uncle Spunky is a Funky Monkey" was Chris's test phrase that he had to remember while performing some mental tasks - it has a silly rhyming element that makes it fairly easy to remember, and I suppose if after a string of math problems or arithmetic exercises Chris couldn't remember the phrase, it would point at some kind of focusing issues or short term memory problems. In any case, I think this evaluation is fascinating. It's not every day that someone really throws their life out on the internet for all to see and study. [[User:Karloffsidekick\|Karloffsidekick]] 09:24, 26 December 2009 (CET)		I'd like to provide some input or possible clarification on the "Uncle Spunky" part -- judging from the Wikipedia article on the psychological test given and the mention of a specific sentence, it sounds like a similar test I was given when I started seeing a psychologist for clinical depression. I had mentioned to her that at times I had trouble focusing or that my mind wandered, and she asked me to remember three specific words and to repeat them back to her: "Apple, Book, Chair." She then asked me to count backwards from 100 as quickly as I could, which I did. After that, she asked me if I remembered those three words from the beginning of the test (which I did, so apparently I didn't have a serious issue with short-term memory). I am guessing that "Uncle Spunky is a Funky Monkey" was Chris's test phrase that he had to remember while performing some mental tasks - it has a silly rhyming element that makes it fairly easy to remember, and I suppose if after a string of math problems or arithmetic exercises Chris couldn't remember the phrase, it would point at some kind of focusing issues or short term memory problems. In any case, I think this evaluation is fascinating. It's not every day that someone really throws their life out on the internet for all to see and study. [[User:Karloffsidekick\|Karloffsidekick]] 09:24, 26 December 2009 (CET)
	*...Aaand, looks like we got the full story on that one. Thanks! Like all things about Chris, it's at the same time sad and somewhat hilarious. I've added it to the [[Random-access humor]] page. --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 09:38, 26 December 2009 (CET)		*...Aaand, looks like we got the full story on that one. Thanks! Like all things about Chris, it's at the same time sad and somewhat hilarious. I've added it to the [[Random-access humor]] page. --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 09:38, 26 December 2009 (CET)

			*From what the more educated e-psychiatrists on Krapple and PVCC, the question is just to have the patient make up any sentence that comes to mind for them, just to test very basic cognitive thought (see [[Wikipedia:Mini-mental_state_examination\|here]] for a bit about the test in question). I don't think this is something a psychiatrist made up but rather Chris's random access humor (IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE "SPUNKY" RHYMES WITH BOTH "MONKEY" AND "FUNKY" AND "MONKEY" IS SO FUNNY LOLOLOLOLOL). tl;dr - Chris recycles material, even IRL.