Talk:Chris and death - Revision history

Saltwatertaffy at 15:52, 3 August 2024

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	:There's also [[Michael Jackson]]. Chris claimed an alt-dimension Jackson lived a few more years until dying the same way, then he made up some song lyrics and claimed that Jackson had written them. That's pretty tasteless. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 15:03, 2 August 2024 (EDT)		:There's also [[Michael Jackson]]. Chris claimed an alt-dimension Jackson lived a few more years until dying the same way, then he made up some song lyrics and claimed that Jackson had written them. That's pretty tasteless. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 15:03, 2 August 2024 (EDT)

			:: That too, yeah. [[User:Saltwatertaffy\|Saltwatertaffy]] ([[User talk:Saltwatertaffy\|talk]] 11:56, 3 August 2024 (EDT)

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	Yeardley Love was a lacrosse player for [[University of Virginia\|UVA]] who was murdered. Chris uploaded [[05142010\|a video]] discussing the story (which he probably just saw on television for a few minutes), but didn't even bother to say her name. He also stated that the murderer should get 20 years in prison for the shock of the murder, which is twice his desired punishment for [[Tobacky\|smoking]]. Later in the video, [[Chris and his Ego\|he rerouted the subject towards himself]] and stated how everyone needed to be sympathetic of him and his autism and that he's not a bad man. In other words, he used the death of a girl he never knew in an attempt to make himself look good.		Yeardley Love was a lacrosse player for [[University of Virginia\|UVA]] who was murdered. Chris uploaded [[05142010\|a video]] discussing the story (which he probably just saw on television for a few minutes), but didn't even bother to say her name. He also stated that the murderer should get 20 years in prison for the shock of the murder, which is twice his desired punishment for [[Tobacky\|smoking]]. Later in the video, [[Chris and his Ego\|he rerouted the subject towards himself]] and stated how everyone needed to be sympathetic of him and his autism and that he's not a bad man. In other words, he used the death of a girl he never knew in an attempt to make himself look good.
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			:There's also [[Michael Jackson]]. Chris claimed an alt-dimension Jackson lived a few more years until dying the same way, then he made up some song lyrics and claimed that Jackson had written them. That's pretty tasteless. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 15:03, 2 August 2024 (EDT)

Saltwatertaffy at 03:35, 2 August 2024

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	:::I think it's too much of a stretch to put into a "tasteless" section. He says, "No accident. He should get a whole- he should get like 20 years in jail. That's what he deserves for that," so in that part he's saying the killer should be jailed for the killing act itself. The "shock" phrasing from after is a bit awkward but he says "debt to society", not to himself. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 21:10, 31 July 2024 (EDT)		:::I think it's too much of a stretch to put into a "tasteless" section. He says, "No accident. He should get a whole- he should get like 20 years in jail. That's what he deserves for that," so in that part he's saying the killer should be jailed for the killing act itself. The "shock" phrasing from after is a bit awkward but he says "debt to society", not to himself. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 21:10, 31 July 2024 (EDT)

			::::I guess that's fair. Although without Love that just leaves us with three dead people he's claimed to spirit converse with (Goldner, Hough, and Harrington), so maybe a section on his tendency to put words into the mouths of real people who died tragically via spirit channeling? In the March 2024 video, Chris claimed to have spirit channeled Goldner and he apparently said exactly what Chris wanted to hear - that MLP G5 was Russian propaganda and he regretted ever making it.
			::::For what it's worth, this was the section we had on Yeardley Love at the time it was removed in 2020:
			[[Wikipedia: Murder of Yeardley Love\|Yeardley Love]] (1987–2010)

			Yeardley Love was a lacrosse player for [[University of Virginia\|UVA]] who was murdered. Chris uploaded [[05142010\|a video]] discussing the story (which he probably just saw on television for a few minutes), but didn't even bother to say her name. He also stated that the murderer should get 20 years in prison for the shock of the murder, which is twice his desired punishment for [[Tobacky\|smoking]]. Later in the video, [[Chris and his Ego\|he rerouted the subject towards himself]] and stated how everyone needed to be sympathetic of him and his autism and that he's not a bad man. In other words, he used the death of a girl he never knew in an attempt to make himself look good.
			::::[[User:Saltwatertaffy\|Saltwatertaffy]] ([[User talk:Saltwatertaffy\|talk]] 23:40, 1 August 2024 (EDT)

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	:: Not so much his comments [[05142010\|so much as using his fake-sympathy about her death]] to make himself look better. The way he phrases it, it sounds like he thinks the shock of him hearing about the murder was worse than the murder itself ("He deserves jail time and hard time... banging rocks, making license plates. So he can repay... debt to society for... the ''shock'' from this girl's murder.") It's not the meanest thing he's ever said, but it's definitely making it all about him. [[User:Saltwatertaffy\|Saltwatertaffy]] ([[User talk:Saltwatertaffy\|talk]] 12:38, 31 July 2024 (EDT)		:: Not so much his comments [[05142010\|so much as using his fake-sympathy about her death]] to make himself look better. The way he phrases it, it sounds like he thinks the shock of him hearing about the murder was worse than the murder itself ("He deserves jail time and hard time... banging rocks, making license plates. So he can repay... debt to society for... the ''shock'' from this girl's murder.") It's not the meanest thing he's ever said, but it's definitely making it all about him. [[User:Saltwatertaffy\|Saltwatertaffy]] ([[User talk:Saltwatertaffy\|talk]] 12:38, 31 July 2024 (EDT)

			:::I think it's too much of a stretch to put into a "tasteless" section. He says, "No accident. He should get a whole- he should get like 20 years in jail. That's what he deserves for that," so in that part he's saying the killer should be jailed for the killing act itself. The "shock" phrasing from after is a bit awkward but he says "debt to society", not to himself. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 21:10, 31 July 2024 (EDT)

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	:Chris's mentions of Claire Hough and Morgan Harrington from [[The Place chats - Psychic Detective]] could be mentioned too, since he was claiming to talk to their spirits while role-playing as a psychic. What was tasteless about his comments on Love? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 17:19, 30 July 2024 (EDT)		:Chris's mentions of Claire Hough and Morgan Harrington from [[The Place chats - Psychic Detective]] could be mentioned too, since he was claiming to talk to their spirits while role-playing as a psychic. What was tasteless about his comments on Love? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 17:19, 30 July 2024 (EDT)

			:: Not so much his comments [[05142010\|so much as using his fake-sympathy about her death]] to make himself look better. The way he phrases it, it sounds like he thinks the shock of him hearing about the murder was worse than the murder itself ("He deserves jail time and hard time... banging rocks, making license plates. So he can repay... debt to society for... the ''shock'' from this girl's murder.") It's not the meanest thing he's ever said, but it's definitely making it all about him. [[User:Saltwatertaffy\|Saltwatertaffy]] ([[User talk:Saltwatertaffy\|talk]] 12:38, 31 July 2024 (EDT)

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			:Chris's mentions of Claire Hough and Morgan Harrington from [[The Place chats - Psychic Detective]] could be mentioned too, since he was claiming to talk to their spirits while role-playing as a psychic. What was tasteless about his comments on Love? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 17:19, 30 July 2024 (EDT)

Saltwatertaffy at 19:27, 30 July 2024

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	In the "The Chandlers face many issues" section, the list of concerns/counterarguments for Chris considering suicide is outdated since this was before the incest saga upended his life. Should this be updated, or maybe just removed altogether since it's rather speculative? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 16:26, 13 May 2023 (EDT)		In the "The Chandlers face many issues" section, the list of concerns/counterarguments for Chris considering suicide is outdated since this was before the incest saga upended his life. Should this be updated, or maybe just removed altogether since it's rather speculative? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 16:26, 13 May 2023 (EDT)
	:Decided to remove. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 04:46, 14 May 2023 (EDT)		:Decided to remove. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 04:46, 14 May 2023 (EDT)

			== "Other tasteless responses" section? ==

			I was going to do a writeup for how, in the [[Telling_It_To_All_of_You,_and_the_Hasbro_Executives_and_Staff\|video about MLP G5 conspiracy theories,]] Chris claimed that the timing of the death of Hasbro CEO [[Wikipedia:Brian Goldner]] in October of 2021 was suspiciously soon before the 2022 invasion of Ukraine by Russia. Goldner actually died of prostate cancer, but, as you can see in the video, Chris doesn't finish reading his Wikipedia page until after suggesting that he may have been poisoned by Hasbro's Russian allies, [[Wikipedia:Poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko\|Litvinenko style]], and you can see Chris backpedalling a little after he realizes Goldner's death and the invasion were entirely unrelated. It called to mind to me the Yeardley Love incident from 2010, another tragic death Chris talked about gracelessly, but the section about her is gone and I don't know where both Love and Goldner would go, since neither were family, pets, imaginary friends, troll creations, or victims of terrorism. So I'm proposing a section for "Other tasteless responses" for a miscellaneous chronicling of Chris reacting to the deaths of celebs, strangers, and such in tactless or deranged ways.

			[[User:Saltwatertaffy\|Saltwatertaffy]] ([[User talk:Saltwatertaffy\|talk]] 15:31, 30 July 2024 (EDT)

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	In the "The Chandlers face many issues" section, the list of concerns/counterarguments for Chris considering suicide is outdated since this was before the incest saga upended his life. Should this be updated, or maybe just removed altogether since it's rather speculative? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 16:26, 13 May 2023 (EDT)		In the "The Chandlers face many issues" section, the list of concerns/counterarguments for Chris considering suicide is outdated since this was before the incest saga upended his life. Should this be updated, or maybe just removed altogether since it's rather speculative? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 16:26, 13 May 2023 (EDT)
			:Decided to remove. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 04:46, 14 May 2023 (EDT)

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	In the Suicide section, there's a paragraph about a plot involving Randy Stair. But it's missing sources. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 00:05, 25 September 2021 (UTC)		In the Suicide section, there's a paragraph about a plot involving Randy Stair. But it's missing sources. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 00:05, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

			== Dated section ==

			In the "The Chandlers face many issues" section, the list of concerns/counterarguments for Chris considering suicide is outdated since this was before the incest saga upended his life. Should this be updated, or maybe just removed altogether since it's rather speculative? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 16:26, 13 May 2023 (EDT)

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	I think that we should separate Chris's actual family members and his pets by making a pets section in this article. It doesn't make much sense to consider them family members here, and we could also use it as an opportunity to write in more detail about some of his deceased cats, and more recently the passing of Snoopy. [[User:Lez\|Lez]] ([[User talk:Lez\|talk]]) 03:06, 16 July 2021 (UTC)		I think that we should separate Chris's actual family members and his pets by making a pets section in this article. It doesn't make much sense to consider them family members here, and we could also use it as an opportunity to write in more detail about some of his deceased cats, and more recently the passing of Snoopy. [[User:Lez\|Lez]] ([[User talk:Lez\|talk]]) 03:06, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
	*Sounds good. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 03:31, 16 July 2021 (UTC)		*Sounds good. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 03:31, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

			== Randy Stair ==

			In the Suicide section, there's a paragraph about a plot involving Randy Stair. But it's missing sources. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 00:05, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

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	Yeardley Love was a lacrosse player for [[University of Virginia\|UVA]] who was murdered. Chris uploaded [[05142010\|a video]] discussing the story (which he probably just saw on television for a few minutes), but didn't even bother to say her name. He also stated that the murderer should get 20 years in prison for the shock of the murder, which is twice his desired punishment for [[Tobacky\|smoking]]. Later in the video, [[Chris and his Ego\|he rerouted the subject towards himself]] and stated how everyone needed to be sympathetic of him and his autism and that he's not a bad man. In other words, he used the death of a girl he never knew in an attempt to make himself look good.		Yeardley Love was a lacrosse player for [[University of Virginia\|UVA]] who was murdered. Chris uploaded [[05142010\|a video]] discussing the story (which he probably just saw on television for a few minutes), but didn't even bother to say her name. He also stated that the murderer should get 20 years in prison for the shock of the murder, which is twice his desired punishment for [[Tobacky\|smoking]]. Later in the video, [[Chris and his Ego\|he rerouted the subject towards himself]] and stated how everyone needed to be sympathetic of him and his autism and that he's not a bad man. In other words, he used the death of a girl he never knew in an attempt to make himself look good.
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			:There's also [[Michael Jackson]]. Chris claimed an alt-dimension Jackson lived a few more years until dying the same way, then he made up some song lyrics and claimed that Jackson had written them. That's pretty tasteless. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 15:03, 2 August 2024 (EDT)

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	In the "The Chandlers face many issues" section, the list of concerns/counterarguments for Chris considering suicide is outdated since this was before the incest saga upended his life. Should this be updated, or maybe just removed altogether since it's rather speculative? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 16:26, 13 May 2023 (EDT)		In the "The Chandlers face many issues" section, the list of concerns/counterarguments for Chris considering suicide is outdated since this was before the incest saga upended his life. Should this be updated, or maybe just removed altogether since it's rather speculative? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 16:26, 13 May 2023 (EDT)
	:Decided to remove. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 04:46, 14 May 2023 (EDT)		:Decided to remove. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 04:46, 14 May 2023 (EDT)

			== "Other tasteless responses" section? ==

			I was going to do a writeup for how, in the [[Telling_It_To_All_of_You,_and_the_Hasbro_Executives_and_Staff\|video about MLP G5 conspiracy theories,]] Chris claimed that the timing of the death of Hasbro CEO [[Wikipedia:Brian Goldner]] in October of 2021 was suspiciously soon before the 2022 invasion of Ukraine by Russia. Goldner actually died of prostate cancer, but, as you can see in the video, Chris doesn't finish reading his Wikipedia page until after suggesting that he may have been poisoned by Hasbro's Russian allies, [[Wikipedia:Poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko\|Litvinenko style]], and you can see Chris backpedalling a little after he realizes Goldner's death and the invasion were entirely unrelated. It called to mind to me the Yeardley Love incident from 2010, another tragic death Chris talked about gracelessly, but the section about her is gone and I don't know where both Love and Goldner would go, since neither were family, pets, imaginary friends, troll creations, or victims of terrorism. So I'm proposing a section for "Other tasteless responses" for a miscellaneous chronicling of Chris reacting to the deaths of celebs, strangers, and such in tactless or deranged ways.

			[[User:Saltwatertaffy\|Saltwatertaffy]] ([[User talk:Saltwatertaffy\|talk]] 15:31, 30 July 2024 (EDT)