Talk:Chris and hypocrisy - Revision history

KingClark: /* Transphobia section */

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	I think Chris's remarks towards Jeff/Francine was likely scripted by that troll and not Chris's own ideas. When he talks about transgender people in non-troll influenced situations, he does use their preferred pronouns ([[Miss Cherry]], [[Teen Troon Squad]] and [[Nowacking]]). [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 15:43, 2 January 2021 (UTC)		I think Chris's remarks towards Jeff/Francine was likely scripted by that troll and not Chris's own ideas. When he talks about transgender people in non-troll influenced situations, he does use their preferred pronouns ([[Miss Cherry]], [[Teen Troon Squad]] and [[Nowacking]]). [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 15:43, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
	: Maybe, but we should probably get confirmation on that. Remember that [[August 2014 Facebook Posts#Chris comes out... kinda\|when Chris first announced that he was part of the LGBTQ community]], he still openly hated gay men, and it wouldn't be until [[Apology for past homophobic comments and homophobia.\|a year later]] that Chris gave up that behavior. [[User:Superspongebobbros\|Superspongebobbros]] ([[User talk:Superspongebobbros\|talk]]) 23:06, 2 January 2021 (UTC)		: Maybe, but we should probably get confirmation on that. Remember that [[August 2014 Facebook Posts#Chris comes out... kinda\|when Chris first announced that he was part of the LGBTQ community]], he still openly hated gay men, and it wouldn't be until [[Apology for past homophobic comments and homophobia.\|a year later]] that Chris gave up that behavior. [[User:Superspongebobbros\|Superspongebobbros]] ([[User talk:Superspongebobbros\|talk]]) 23:06, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
	: He had a history of hating gay men outside of troll influences. Compared to that, his remarks to Jeff/Francine are an anomaly. I just think troll-influenced content should be taken with a grain of salt over whether they represent Chris's real views since there's usually someone behind the scenes manipulating him into making that stuff. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 23:59, 2 January 2021 (UTC)		:: He had a history of hating gay men outside of troll influences. Compared to that, his remarks to Jeff/Francine are an anomaly. I just think troll-influenced content should be taken with a grain of salt over whether they represent Chris's real views since there's usually someone behind the scenes manipulating him into making that stuff. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 23:59, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Hurtful Truth Level: /* Transphobia section */

2021-01-02T23:59:28Z

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	I think Chris's remarks towards Jeff/Francine was likely scripted by that troll and not Chris's own ideas. When he talks about transgender people in non-troll influenced situations, he does use their preferred pronouns ([[Miss Cherry]], [[Teen Troon Squad]] and [[Nowacking]]). [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 15:43, 2 January 2021 (UTC)		I think Chris's remarks towards Jeff/Francine was likely scripted by that troll and not Chris's own ideas. When he talks about transgender people in non-troll influenced situations, he does use their preferred pronouns ([[Miss Cherry]], [[Teen Troon Squad]] and [[Nowacking]]). [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 15:43, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
	: Maybe, but we should probably get confirmation on that. Remember that [[August 2014 Facebook Posts#Chris comes out... kinda\|when Chris first announced that he was part of the LGBTQ community]], he still openly hated gay men, and it wouldn't be until [[Apology for past homophobic comments and homophobia.\|a year later]] that Chris gave up that behavior. [[User:Superspongebobbros\|Superspongebobbros]] ([[User talk:Superspongebobbros\|talk]]) 23:06, 2 January 2021 (UTC)		: Maybe, but we should probably get confirmation on that. Remember that [[August 2014 Facebook Posts#Chris comes out... kinda\|when Chris first announced that he was part of the LGBTQ community]], he still openly hated gay men, and it wouldn't be until [[Apology for past homophobic comments and homophobia.\|a year later]] that Chris gave up that behavior. [[User:Superspongebobbros\|Superspongebobbros]] ([[User talk:Superspongebobbros\|talk]]) 23:06, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
			: He had a history of hating gay men outside of troll influences. Compared to that, his remarks to Jeff/Francine are an anomaly. I just think troll-influenced content should be taken with a grain of salt over whether they represent Chris's real views since there's usually someone behind the scenes manipulating him into making that stuff. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 23:59, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Superspongebobbros: /* Transphobia section */

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	I think Chris's remarks towards Jeff/Francine was likely scripted by that troll and not Chris's own ideas. When he talks about transgender people in non-troll influenced situations, he does use their preferred pronouns ([[Miss Cherry]], [[Teen Troon Squad]] and [[Nowacking]]). [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 15:43, 2 January 2021 (UTC)		I think Chris's remarks towards Jeff/Francine was likely scripted by that troll and not Chris's own ideas. When he talks about transgender people in non-troll influenced situations, he does use their preferred pronouns ([[Miss Cherry]], [[Teen Troon Squad]] and [[Nowacking]]). [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 15:43, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
			: Maybe, but we should probably get confirmation on that. Remember that [[August 2014 Facebook Posts#Chris comes out... kinda\|when Chris first announced that he was part of the LGBTQ community]], he still openly hated gay men, and it wouldn't be until [[Apology for past homophobic comments and homophobia.\|a year later]] that Chris gave up that behavior. [[User:Superspongebobbros\|Superspongebobbros]] ([[User talk:Superspongebobbros\|talk]]) 23:06, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

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	The wording chosen for the article --specifically in the [[Chris_and_hypocrisy#.22We_do_not_like_to_stand_under_one_leader..22_-_Authoritarianism\|authoritarianism]] section-- is somewhat cumbersome to read. I would favor the use of gender neutral terms to improve the readability of certain sentences. For example replacing "man/woman" with "person", "him/her" with "hir" and so forth. I would've replaced them myself but I was uncertain about CWCki's policy on the matter. --[[User:Galford\|Galford]] 14:29, 31 December 2011 (PST)		The wording chosen for the article --specifically in the [[Chris_and_hypocrisy#.22We_do_not_like_to_stand_under_one_leader..22_-_Authoritarianism\|authoritarianism]] section-- is somewhat cumbersome to read. I would favor the use of gender neutral terms to improve the readability of certain sentences. For example replacing "man/woman" with "person", "him/her" with "hir" and so forth. I would've replaced them myself but I was uncertain about CWCki's policy on the matter. --[[User:Galford\|Galford]] 14:29, 31 December 2011 (PST)

			== Transphobia section ==

			I think Chris's remarks towards Jeff/Francine was likely scripted by that troll and not Chris's own ideas. When he talks about transgender people in non-troll influenced situations, he does use their preferred pronouns ([[Miss Cherry]], [[Teen Troon Squad]] and [[Nowacking]]). [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 15:43, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Trombonista: Undo revision 164816 by WilliamStephens (talk) spam

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Undo revision 164816 by WilliamStephens (talk) spam

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	This is a rather specific topic but given that the List of Chris's lies have devolved from being a list of lies to any sort of hypocrisy on Chris's part (which isn't the same as lying) or people assuming things about this, this page can also help clean up the Lies page.--[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 22:11, 5 December 2009 (CET)		This is a rather specific topic but given that the List of Chris's lies have devolved from being a list of lies to any sort of hypocrisy on Chris's part (which isn't the same as lying) or people assuming things about this, this page can also help clean up the Lies page.--[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 22:11, 5 December 2009 (CET)
	* [http://clevereditor.com/ http://clevereditor.com/]

	==A few suggestions==		==A few suggestions==

WilliamStephens at 14:22, 10 February 2013

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	This is a rather specific topic but given that the List of Chris's lies have devolved from being a list of lies to any sort of hypocrisy on Chris's part (which isn't the same as lying) or people assuming things about this, this page can also help clean up the Lies page.--[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 22:11, 5 December 2009 (CET)		This is a rather specific topic but given that the List of Chris's lies have devolved from being a list of lies to any sort of hypocrisy on Chris's part (which isn't the same as lying) or people assuming things about this, this page can also help clean up the Lies page.--[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 22:11, 5 December 2009 (CET)
			* [http://clevereditor.com/ http://clevereditor.com/]

	==A few suggestions==		==A few suggestions==

Galford at 22:29, 31 December 2011

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	[[User:ManInThePickleSuit\|ManInThePickleSuit]] 12:00, 1 November 2011 (PDT)ManInThePickleSuit		[[User:ManInThePickleSuit\|ManInThePickleSuit]] 12:00, 1 November 2011 (PDT)ManInThePickleSuit
	*I don't really think there would be many places in this wiki it'd be appropriate at all. Chris has nothing to do with Kim Jong-Il in spite of their similarities, and even in the CWCville page it'd be really stretching it. And Delabonte only recently cleaned it out of a lot of similar content that was barely relevant. Don't get me wrong, it's a valid comparison, it's just that it's not really needed. --[[User:Old meme\|Old meme]] 03:42, 2 November 2011 (PDT)		*I don't really think there would be many places in this wiki it'd be appropriate at all. Chris has nothing to do with Kim Jong-Il in spite of their similarities, and even in the CWCville page it'd be really stretching it. And Delabonte only recently cleaned it out of a lot of similar content that was barely relevant. Don't get me wrong, it's a valid comparison, it's just that it's not really needed. --[[User:Old meme\|Old meme]] 03:42, 2 November 2011 (PDT)

			==Gender neutrality and readability==

			The wording chosen for the article --specifically in the [[Chris_and_hypocrisy#.22We_do_not_like_to_stand_under_one_leader..22_-_Authoritarianism\|authoritarianism]] section-- is somewhat cumbersome to read. I would favor the use of gender neutral terms to improve the readability of certain sentences. For example replacing "man/woman" with "person", "him/her" with "hir" and so forth. I would've replaced them myself but I was uncertain about CWCki's policy on the matter. --[[User:Galford\|Galford]] 14:29, 31 December 2011 (PST)

Old meme: /* Chris and Kim Jong-Il */

2011-11-02T10:42:04Z

Chris and Kim Jong-Il

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	So I had my section about Chris showing a fair few similarities to Kim Jong-Il removed, as it was (admittedly) barely related except in the context of Chris's comments about authoritarianism he directed at ADF. Perhaps this would be better suited for the CWCville page?		So I had my section about Chris showing a fair few similarities to Kim Jong-Il removed, as it was (admittedly) barely related except in the context of Chris's comments about authoritarianism he directed at ADF. Perhaps this would be better suited for the CWCville page?
	[[User:ManInThePickleSuit\|ManInThePickleSuit]] 12:00, 1 November 2011 (PDT)ManInThePickleSuit		[[User:ManInThePickleSuit\|ManInThePickleSuit]] 12:00, 1 November 2011 (PDT)ManInThePickleSuit
			*I don't really think there would be many places in this wiki it'd be appropriate at all. Chris has nothing to do with Kim Jong-Il in spite of their similarities, and even in the CWCville page it'd be really stretching it. And Delabonte only recently cleaned it out of a lot of similar content that was barely relevant. Don't get me wrong, it's a valid comparison, it's just that it's not really needed. --[[User:Old meme\|Old meme]] 03:42, 2 November 2011 (PDT)

ManInThePickleSuit: /* Chris and Kim Jong-Il */ new section

2011-11-01T19:00:36Z

Chris and Kim Jong-Il: new section

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	I'm not 100% sure this has been brought up, but Chris claimed that there were NO elections in CWCville in response to the Billy Mays incident and his excuse for it. However, in one of the mailbags he said the exact opposite. He said "I have previously stated that Cwcville was originally founded by my Father, in which made him Mayor of it for some years, who gave it a different name before he named me Mayor later on. Yet is NOT a Monarchy either, because we HOLD elections for the Members of the Cwcville Board and such". Further proving chris is indeed a hypocritical and contradictive fool. How does this make him a hypocrite and not merely contradictive? Because he fails to understand how his own comics work and he is unable to develop a stable environment for the setting of Sonichu and the place it is based in. However, he bashed Alec Benson Leary for him not being able to do so. Or at least what he believed Alec failed to do in Asperchu		I'm not 100% sure this has been brought up, but Chris claimed that there were NO elections in CWCville in response to the Billy Mays incident and his excuse for it. However, in one of the mailbags he said the exact opposite. He said "I have previously stated that Cwcville was originally founded by my Father, in which made him Mayor of it for some years, who gave it a different name before he named me Mayor later on. Yet is NOT a Monarchy either, because we HOLD elections for the Members of the Cwcville Board and such". Further proving chris is indeed a hypocritical and contradictive fool. How does this make him a hypocrite and not merely contradictive? Because he fails to understand how his own comics work and he is unable to develop a stable environment for the setting of Sonichu and the place it is based in. However, he bashed Alec Benson Leary for him not being able to do so. Or at least what he believed Alec failed to do in Asperchu
	*Cwcville board =/= mayor. He made it up on the spot, naturally, but the two are not mutually exclusive. [[User:Freecell\|Freecell]] 04:20, 14 November 2010 (PST)		*Cwcville board =/= mayor. He made it up on the spot, naturally, but the two are not mutually exclusive. [[User:Freecell\|Freecell]] 04:20, 14 November 2010 (PST)

			== Chris and Kim Jong-Il ==

			So I had my section about Chris showing a fair few similarities to Kim Jong-Il removed, as it was (admittedly) barely related except in the context of Chris's comments about authoritarianism he directed at ADF. Perhaps this would be better suited for the CWCville page?
			[[User:ManInThePickleSuit\|ManInThePickleSuit]] 12:00, 1 November 2011 (PDT)ManInThePickleSuit

Freecell at 12:20, 14 November 2010

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	I'm not 100% sure this has been brought up, but Chris claimed that there were NO elections in CWCville in response to the Billy Mays incident and his excuse for it. However, in one of the mailbags he said the exact opposite. He said "I have previously stated that Cwcville was originally founded by my Father, in which made him Mayor of it for some years, who gave it a different name before he named me Mayor later on. Yet is NOT a Monarchy either, because we HOLD elections for the Members of the Cwcville Board and such". Further proving chris is indeed a hypocritical and contradictive fool. How does this make him a hypocrite and not merely contradictive? Because he fails to understand how his own comics work and he is unable to develop a stable environment for the setting of Sonichu and the place it is based in. However, he bashed Alec Benson Leary for him not being able to do so. Or at least what he believed Alec failed to do in Asperchu		I'm not 100% sure this has been brought up, but Chris claimed that there were NO elections in CWCville in response to the Billy Mays incident and his excuse for it. However, in one of the mailbags he said the exact opposite. He said "I have previously stated that Cwcville was originally founded by my Father, in which made him Mayor of it for some years, who gave it a different name before he named me Mayor later on. Yet is NOT a Monarchy either, because we HOLD elections for the Members of the Cwcville Board and such". Further proving chris is indeed a hypocritical and contradictive fool. How does this make him a hypocrite and not merely contradictive? Because he fails to understand how his own comics work and he is unable to develop a stable environment for the setting of Sonichu and the place it is based in. However, he bashed Alec Benson Leary for him not being able to do so. Or at least what he believed Alec failed to do in Asperchu
			*Cwcville board =/= mayor. He made it up on the spot, naturally, but the two are not mutually exclusive. [[User:Freecell\|Freecell]] 04:20, 14 November 2010 (PST)

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	I think Chris's remarks towards Jeff/Francine was likely scripted by that troll and not Chris's own ideas. When he talks about transgender people in non-troll influenced situations, he does use their preferred pronouns ([[Miss Cherry]], [[Teen Troon Squad]] and [[Nowacking]]). [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 15:43, 2 January 2021 (UTC)		I think Chris's remarks towards Jeff/Francine was likely scripted by that troll and not Chris's own ideas. When he talks about transgender people in non-troll influenced situations, he does use their preferred pronouns ([[Miss Cherry]], [[Teen Troon Squad]] and [[Nowacking]]). [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 15:43, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
	: Maybe, but we should probably get confirmation on that. Remember that [[August 2014 Facebook Posts#Chris comes out... kinda\|when Chris first announced that he was part of the LGBTQ community]], he still openly hated gay men, and it wouldn't be until [[Apology for past homophobic comments and homophobia.\|a year later]] that Chris gave up that behavior. [[User:Superspongebobbros\|Superspongebobbros]] ([[User talk:Superspongebobbros\|talk]]) 23:06, 2 January 2021 (UTC)		: Maybe, but we should probably get confirmation on that. Remember that [[August 2014 Facebook Posts#Chris comes out... kinda\|when Chris first announced that he was part of the LGBTQ community]], he still openly hated gay men, and it wouldn't be until [[Apology for past homophobic comments and homophobia.\|a year later]] that Chris gave up that behavior. [[User:Superspongebobbros\|Superspongebobbros]] ([[User talk:Superspongebobbros\|talk]]) 23:06, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
	: He had a history of hating gay men outside of troll influences. Compared to that, his remarks to Jeff/Francine are an anomaly. I just think troll-influenced content should be taken with a grain of salt over whether they represent Chris's real views since there's usually someone behind the scenes manipulating him into making that stuff. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 23:59, 2 January 2021 (UTC)		:: He had a history of hating gay men outside of troll influences. Compared to that, his remarks to Jeff/Francine are an anomaly. I just think troll-influenced content should be taken with a grain of salt over whether they represent Chris's real views since there's usually someone behind the scenes manipulating him into making that stuff. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 23:59, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

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	I think Chris's remarks towards Jeff/Francine was likely scripted by that troll and not Chris's own ideas. When he talks about transgender people in non-troll influenced situations, he does use their preferred pronouns ([[Miss Cherry]], [[Teen Troon Squad]] and [[Nowacking]]). [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 15:43, 2 January 2021 (UTC)		I think Chris's remarks towards Jeff/Francine was likely scripted by that troll and not Chris's own ideas. When he talks about transgender people in non-troll influenced situations, he does use their preferred pronouns ([[Miss Cherry]], [[Teen Troon Squad]] and [[Nowacking]]). [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 15:43, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
	: Maybe, but we should probably get confirmation on that. Remember that [[August 2014 Facebook Posts#Chris comes out... kinda\|when Chris first announced that he was part of the LGBTQ community]], he still openly hated gay men, and it wouldn't be until [[Apology for past homophobic comments and homophobia.\|a year later]] that Chris gave up that behavior. [[User:Superspongebobbros\|Superspongebobbros]] ([[User talk:Superspongebobbros\|talk]]) 23:06, 2 January 2021 (UTC)		: Maybe, but we should probably get confirmation on that. Remember that [[August 2014 Facebook Posts#Chris comes out... kinda\|when Chris first announced that he was part of the LGBTQ community]], he still openly hated gay men, and it wouldn't be until [[Apology for past homophobic comments and homophobia.\|a year later]] that Chris gave up that behavior. [[User:Superspongebobbros\|Superspongebobbros]] ([[User talk:Superspongebobbros\|talk]]) 23:06, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
			: He had a history of hating gay men outside of troll influences. Compared to that, his remarks to Jeff/Francine are an anomaly. I just think troll-influenced content should be taken with a grain of salt over whether they represent Chris's real views since there's usually someone behind the scenes manipulating him into making that stuff. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 23:59, 2 January 2021 (UTC)