Talk:Chris and manipulation - Revision history

Blue Bully at 04:26, 29 March 2025

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	:Great Idea. We can combine the separate sections about each enabler into one as well. [[User:PsychoNerd054\|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 01:55, 17 May 2020 (UTC)		:Great Idea. We can combine the separate sections about each enabler into one as well. [[User:PsychoNerd054\|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 01:55, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

			== Is Chris all that passive? ==

			I'm not sure the man in the pickle suit is reliable or authoritative enough to prove that he was almost completely passive without being trolled and goaded 24/7. He was pretty damn prolific before the trolls ever got to him and he was only getting more online as time went on. Were Mary Lee Walsh or Adam Stackhouse engaged in sophisticated campaigns to piss him off enough to sperg at them? Chris definitely has a proclivity towards these antics independent of the trolls. This article even mentions that he returned to the internet of his own volition after the trolling had largely ended.[[User:Blue Bully\|Blue Bully]] ([[User talk:Blue Bully\|talk]]) 00:26, 29 March 2025 (EDT)

PsychoNerd054: /* Restructuring */

2020-05-17T01:55:26Z

Restructuring

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	We should rearrange the sections, it would help the article flow. I think it should start off with the three sections about the biggest manipulators in Chris's life - trolls, enablers and his mother. Then move to the sections explaining his gullibility - Manipulation techniques, and Reasons he's so gullible. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 22:05, 16 May 2020 (UTC)		We should rearrange the sections, it would help the article flow. I think it should start off with the three sections about the biggest manipulators in Chris's life - trolls, enablers and his mother. Then move to the sections explaining his gullibility - Manipulation techniques, and Reasons he's so gullible. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 22:05, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

			:Great Idea. We can combine the separate sections about each enabler into one as well. [[User:PsychoNerd054\|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 01:55, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Hurtful Truth Level: /* Restructuring */ new section

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	:I thought it would be important to bring up, because I think his inability to think for himself, and his dependence on other people, including his enablers is one of the primary causes of him being more susceptible to all forms of manipulation by them. In a major way, this makes him pretty gullible in some respects as he never thinks about all the ways he's being manipulated. That section has less to do with the examples of it happening as much as it is an explanation of that aspect of his character.[[User:PsychoNerd054\|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 05:33, 12 May 2020 (UTC)		:I thought it would be important to bring up, because I think his inability to think for himself, and his dependence on other people, including his enablers is one of the primary causes of him being more susceptible to all forms of manipulation by them. In a major way, this makes him pretty gullible in some respects as he never thinks about all the ways he's being manipulated. That section has less to do with the examples of it happening as much as it is an explanation of that aspect of his character.[[User:PsychoNerd054\|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 05:33, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

			== Restructuring ==

			We should rearrange the sections, it would help the article flow. I think it should start off with the three sections about the biggest manipulators in Chris's life - trolls, enablers and his mother. Then move to the sections explaining his gullibility - Manipulation techniques, and Reasons he's so gullible. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 22:05, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

PsychoNerd054: /* Enablers & Lack of Independence section */

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	There's a conflict between it and the "Chris in-between the trolling" section. Chris could make friends offline, like with the [[Pokémon League friends]]. The post-Idea Guys Chris chooses to make friends with internet enablers instead because they'll play along with his fantasies while his real life friends won't. Also does his lack of independence affect his gullibility? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 03:29, 12 May 2020 (UTC)		There's a conflict between it and the "Chris in-between the trolling" section. Chris could make friends offline, like with the [[Pokémon League friends]]. The post-Idea Guys Chris chooses to make friends with internet enablers instead because they'll play along with his fantasies while his real life friends won't. Also does his lack of independence affect his gullibility? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 03:29, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

	:I thought it would be important to bring up, because I think his inability to think for himself, and his dependence on other people, including his enablers is one of the primary causes of him being more susceptible to all forms of manipulation by them. In a major way, this makes him pretty gullible in some respects as he never thinks about all the ways he's being manipulated.[[User:PsychoNerd054\|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 05:33, 12 May 2020 (UTC)		:I thought it would be important to bring up, because I think his inability to think for himself, and his dependence on other people, including his enablers is one of the primary causes of him being more susceptible to all forms of manipulation by them. In a major way, this makes him pretty gullible in some respects as he never thinks about all the ways he's being manipulated. That section has less to do with the examples of it happening as much as it is an explanation of that aspect of his character.[[User:PsychoNerd054\|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 05:33, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

PsychoNerd054: /* Enablers & Lack of Independence section */

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	There's a conflict between it and the "Chris in-between the trolling" section. Chris could make friends offline, like with the [[Pokémon League friends]]. The post-Idea Guys Chris chooses to make friends with internet enablers instead because they'll play along with his fantasies while his real life friends won't. Also does his lack of independence affect his gullibility? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 03:29, 12 May 2020 (UTC)		There's a conflict between it and the "Chris in-between the trolling" section. Chris could make friends offline, like with the [[Pokémon League friends]]. The post-Idea Guys Chris chooses to make friends with internet enablers instead because they'll play along with his fantasies while his real life friends won't. Also does his lack of independence affect his gullibility? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 03:29, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

			:I thought it would be important to bring up, because I think his inability to think for himself, and his dependence on other people, including his enablers is one of the primary causes of him being more susceptible to all forms of manipulation by them. In a major way, this makes him pretty gullible in some respects as he never thinks about all the ways he's being manipulated.[[User:PsychoNerd054\|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 05:33, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

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	== Enablers & Lack of Independence section ==		== Enablers & Lack of Independence section ==

	There's a conflict between it and the "Chris in-between the trolling" section. Chris could make friends offline, like with the [[Pokémon ~~league~~ friends]]. The post-Idea Guys Chris chooses to make friends with internet enablers instead because they'll play along with his fantasies while his real life friends won't. Also does his lack of independence affect his gullibility? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 03:29, 12 May 2020 (UTC)		There's a conflict between it and the "Chris in-between the trolling" section. Chris could make friends offline, like with the [[Pokémon League friends]]. The post-Idea Guys Chris chooses to make friends with internet enablers instead because they'll play along with his fantasies while his real life friends won't. Also does his lack of independence affect his gullibility? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 03:29, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

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	I don't think Rollin and Trollin counts as an example of Chris being in between the trolling. The cameraman was a friend of Kim Wilson, who was an undercover troll, so the entire thing might have been scripted by trolls. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 08:05, 6 May 2020 (UTC)		I don't think Rollin and Trollin counts as an example of Chris being in between the trolling. The cameraman was a friend of Kim Wilson, who was an undercover troll, so the entire thing might have been scripted by trolls. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 08:05, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

			== Enablers & Lack of Independence section ==

			There's a conflict between it and the "Chris in-between the trolling" section. Chris could make friends offline, like with the [[Pokémon league friends]]. The post-Idea Guys Chris chooses to make friends with internet enablers instead because they'll play along with his fantasies while his real life friends won't. Also does his lack of independence affect his gullibility? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 03:29, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

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Rollin and Trollin: new section

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== Rollin and Trollin ==

I don't think Rollin and Trollin counts as an example of Chris being in between the trolling. The cameraman was a friend of Kim Wilson, who was an undercover troll, so the entire thing might have been scripted by trolls. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 08:05, 6 May 2020 (UTC)