Talk:Chris and religion - Revision history

WarnerBro: /* Splitting Neo-Spiritual Christianity */

2023-07-08T18:34:09Z

Splitting Neo-Spiritual Christianity

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	Should Neo-Spiritual Christianity and its subsection Cosmology be split into its own page? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 18:42, 22 May 2022 (UTC)		Should Neo-Spiritual Christianity and its subsection Cosmology be split into its own page? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 18:42, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
			* I was agnostic about the issue (pun intended), but having thought it over, I'm leaning "yes". [[User:WarnerBro\|WarnerBro]] ([[User talk:WarnerBro\|talk]]) 14:34, 8 July 2023 (EDT)

Hurtful Truth Level: /* Splitting Neo-Spiritual Christianity */ new section

2022-05-22T18:42:45Z

Splitting Neo-Spiritual Christianity: new section

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	*Agreed. Maybe we could split the article into sections for Past Beliefs and Current Beliefs, similar to the [[Homos]] page. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 02:59, 15 June 2019 (UTC)		*Agreed. Maybe we could split the article into sections for Past Beliefs and Current Beliefs, similar to the [[Homos]] page. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 02:59, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
	*After months of ''stress'', sigh*, I have got about at last to doing this. [[User:ChanOfTartary\|ChanOfTartary]] ([[User talk:ChanOfTartary\|talk]]) 22:06, 7 August 2019 (UTC)		*After months of ''stress'', sigh*, I have got about at last to doing this. [[User:ChanOfTartary\|ChanOfTartary]] ([[User talk:ChanOfTartary\|talk]]) 22:06, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

			== Splitting Neo-Spiritual Christianity ==

			Should Neo-Spiritual Christianity and its subsection Cosmology be split into its own page? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 18:42, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

ChanOfTartary: /* Is a complete re-write in order? */

2019-08-07T22:06:30Z

Is a complete re-write in order?

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	*Agreed. Maybe we could split the article into sections for Past Beliefs and Current Beliefs, similar to the [[Homos]] page. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 02:59, 15 June 2019 (UTC)		*Agreed. Maybe we could split the article into sections for Past Beliefs and Current Beliefs, similar to the [[Homos]] page. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 02:59, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
			*After months of ''stress'', sigh*, I have got about at last to doing this. [[User:ChanOfTartary\|ChanOfTartary]] ([[User talk:ChanOfTartary\|talk]]) 22:06, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Hurtful Truth Level: /* Is a complete re-write in order? */

2019-06-15T02:59:20Z

Is a complete re-write in order?

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	Chris-chan's religious beliefs have changed significantly since the Classic era; no more is he a lukewarm Family Guy caricature of a Baptist. Self-apotheosis now dominates Chris' beliefs, which seem only recently to have assimilated his older beliefs in a bizarre form mutilated beyond recognition. Given the recent announcements about consulting with Jesus, it may be wise to wait until we have a clearer picture of what Chris-chan actually believes in 2019. Something like this article in its current form should be kept as a record for posterity, perhaps in a separate ''GodJesus'' article, or even ''Classic Chris and religion'', but emphasising it in the main ''Chris and...'' article is misleading, unless Chris does revert in near future to his earlier form. [[User:ChanOfTartary\|ChanOfTartary]] ([[User talk:ChanOfTartary\|talk]]) 16:41, 14 June 2019 (UTC)		Chris-chan's religious beliefs have changed significantly since the Classic era; no more is he a lukewarm Family Guy caricature of a Baptist. Self-apotheosis now dominates Chris' beliefs, which seem only recently to have assimilated his older beliefs in a bizarre form mutilated beyond recognition. Given the recent announcements about consulting with Jesus, it may be wise to wait until we have a clearer picture of what Chris-chan actually believes in 2019. Something like this article in its current form should be kept as a record for posterity, perhaps in a separate ''GodJesus'' article, or even ''Classic Chris and religion'', but emphasising it in the main ''Chris and...'' article is misleading, unless Chris does revert in near future to his earlier form. [[User:ChanOfTartary\|ChanOfTartary]] ([[User talk:ChanOfTartary\|talk]]) 16:41, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

	*Agreed. Maybe we could do split the article into sections for Past Beliefs and Current Beliefs, similar to the [[Homos]] page. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 02:59, 15 June 2019 (UTC)		*Agreed. Maybe we could split the article into sections for Past Beliefs and Current Beliefs, similar to the [[Homos]] page. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 02:59, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Hurtful Truth Level: /* Is a complete re-write in order? */

2019-06-15T02:59:00Z

Is a complete re-write in order?

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	Chris-chan's religious beliefs have changed significantly since the Classic era; no more is he a lukewarm Family Guy caricature of a Baptist. Self-apotheosis now dominates Chris' beliefs, which seem only recently to have assimilated his older beliefs in a bizarre form mutilated beyond recognition. Given the recent announcements about consulting with Jesus, it may be wise to wait until we have a clearer picture of what Chris-chan actually believes in 2019. Something like this article in its current form should be kept as a record for posterity, perhaps in a separate ''GodJesus'' article, or even ''Classic Chris and religion'', but emphasising it in the main ''Chris and...'' article is misleading, unless Chris does revert in near future to his earlier form. [[User:ChanOfTartary\|ChanOfTartary]] ([[User talk:ChanOfTartary\|talk]]) 16:41, 14 June 2019 (UTC)		Chris-chan's religious beliefs have changed significantly since the Classic era; no more is he a lukewarm Family Guy caricature of a Baptist. Self-apotheosis now dominates Chris' beliefs, which seem only recently to have assimilated his older beliefs in a bizarre form mutilated beyond recognition. Given the recent announcements about consulting with Jesus, it may be wise to wait until we have a clearer picture of what Chris-chan actually believes in 2019. Something like this article in its current form should be kept as a record for posterity, perhaps in a separate ''GodJesus'' article, or even ''Classic Chris and religion'', but emphasising it in the main ''Chris and...'' article is misleading, unless Chris does revert in near future to his earlier form. [[User:ChanOfTartary\|ChanOfTartary]] ([[User talk:ChanOfTartary\|talk]]) 16:41, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

			*Agreed. Maybe we could do split the article into sections for Past Beliefs and Current Beliefs, similar to the [[Homos]] page. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 02:59, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

ChanOfTartary: /* Is a complete re-write in order? */ new section

2019-06-14T16:41:51Z

Is a complete re-write in order?: new section

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	Does anyone find this a bit unneccessary? I think the article without this is still enough to prove that Chris isn't a good Christian since this "Breaking all Ten Commandments" part looks "trying too hard" and forced especially the "Thou shalt not steal" part. [[User:Alan Pardew\|Alan Pardew]] 03:39, 6 September 2012 (PDT)		Does anyone find this a bit unneccessary? I think the article without this is still enough to prove that Chris isn't a good Christian since this "Breaking all Ten Commandments" part looks "trying too hard" and forced especially the "Thou shalt not steal" part. [[User:Alan Pardew\|Alan Pardew]] 03:39, 6 September 2012 (PDT)
	*Why, yes. I do think it is unnecessary my good sir, and you would be doing the Lord's work if you removed it. In future I also recommend being more take-charge with this stuff. If you see cancer in the pages, remove it, and justify your choice in the summary. If someone takes issue with your edits then they'll revert them. Then you can either accept their argument or tell them why they're being a faggot. If you'd just removed this yourself I don't think anyone would have objected. You are right though, this section can go and nothing will be missed. --[[User:Old meme\|Old meme]] 02:46, 7 September 2012 (PDT)		*Why, yes. I do think it is unnecessary my good sir, and you would be doing the Lord's work if you removed it. In future I also recommend being more take-charge with this stuff. If you see cancer in the pages, remove it, and justify your choice in the summary. If someone takes issue with your edits then they'll revert them. Then you can either accept their argument or tell them why they're being a faggot. If you'd just removed this yourself I don't think anyone would have objected. You are right though, this section can go and nothing will be missed. --[[User:Old meme\|Old meme]] 02:46, 7 September 2012 (PDT)

			== Is a complete re-write in order? ==

			Chris-chan's religious beliefs have changed significantly since the Classic era; no more is he a lukewarm Family Guy caricature of a Baptist. Self-apotheosis now dominates Chris' beliefs, which seem only recently to have assimilated his older beliefs in a bizarre form mutilated beyond recognition. Given the recent announcements about consulting with Jesus, it may be wise to wait until we have a clearer picture of what Chris-chan actually believes in 2019. Something like this article in its current form should be kept as a record for posterity, perhaps in a separate ''GodJesus'' article, or even ''Classic Chris and religion'', but emphasising it in the main ''Chris and...'' article is misleading, unless Chris does revert in near future to his earlier form. [[User:ChanOfTartary\|ChanOfTartary]] ([[User talk:ChanOfTartary\|talk]]) 16:41, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Old meme: /* Breaking all Ten Commandments */

2012-09-07T09:46:13Z

Breaking all Ten Commandments

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	Does anyone find this a bit unneccessary? I think the article without this is still enough to prove that Chris isn't a good Christian since this "Breaking all Ten Commandments" part looks "trying too hard" and forced especially the "Thou shalt not steal" part. [[User:Alan Pardew\|Alan Pardew]] 03:39, 6 September 2012 (PDT)		Does anyone find this a bit unneccessary? I think the article without this is still enough to prove that Chris isn't a good Christian since this "Breaking all Ten Commandments" part looks "trying too hard" and forced especially the "Thou shalt not steal" part. [[User:Alan Pardew\|Alan Pardew]] 03:39, 6 September 2012 (PDT)
			*Why, yes. I do think it is unnecessary my good sir, and you would be doing the Lord's work if you removed it. In future I also recommend being more take-charge with this stuff. If you see cancer in the pages, remove it, and justify your choice in the summary. If someone takes issue with your edits then they'll revert them. Then you can either accept their argument or tell them why they're being a faggot. If you'd just removed this yourself I don't think anyone would have objected. You are right though, this section can go and nothing will be missed. --[[User:Old meme\|Old meme]] 02:46, 7 September 2012 (PDT)

Alan Pardew at 10:39, 6 September 2012

2012-09-06T10:39:02Z

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	:This page has enough irrelevant sperging about Chris's sins as it is. I personally think that anything beyond the ten commandments section was pushing it, and they were actually IN the bible. I don't see any need to pointlessly extend this page further. --[[User:Old meme\|Old meme]] 07:55, 24 January 2012 (PST)		:This page has enough irrelevant sperging about Chris's sins as it is. I personally think that anything beyond the ten commandments section was pushing it, and they were actually IN the bible. I don't see any need to pointlessly extend this page further. --[[User:Old meme\|Old meme]] 07:55, 24 January 2012 (PST)
	*Not to be a dick, but the Seven Deadly Sins aren't technically in the bible. It's a Catholic thing, and Chris is Protestant, so I don't think that that nor the part about the Seven Heavenly Virtues is necessary. One man's opinion. Love, [[User:Giantgroundsloth\|Giantgroundsloth]] 21:02, 28 January 2012 (PST)		*Not to be a dick, but the Seven Deadly Sins aren't technically in the bible. It's a Catholic thing, and Chris is Protestant, so I don't think that that nor the part about the Seven Heavenly Virtues is necessary. One man's opinion. Love, [[User:Giantgroundsloth\|Giantgroundsloth]] 21:02, 28 January 2012 (PST)

			==Breaking all Ten Commandments==
			Does anyone find this a bit unneccessary? I think the article without this is still enough to prove that Chris isn't a good Christian since this "Breaking all Ten Commandments" part looks "trying too hard" and forced especially the "Thou shalt not steal" part. [[User:Alan Pardew\|Alan Pardew]] 03:39, 6 September 2012 (PDT)

ElRodrigo: /* Removal */

2012-06-02T14:56:17Z

Removal

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	*I'd vote to put it back. Third point: this isn't a site about the (in)accuracy of religion, and the many many MANY cotnradictory beliefs and interpertations from the countless modern sects of christians/jews have on their versions of the origional oral mythologies; what Christians belive the bible means and what it ''actually'' origonally says are entirely different things. Second Point: while a standard measure does provide a good baseline, I felt that the site was always about how ''beyond'' the baseline Chris goes. While one is more likeley to violate the nuances than the general rules, those sections had a lot of good work put into them, and show through a thurough scope what a thurough failure Chris is. Lastly, on the first point, while the Seven are officially only Catholic dogma (as are, for example, the Trinity, the Saints, Exorcism/spirits, and Mary also being prayed to), they are also common knowledge and commonly understood. For example, [[wikipedia:Mitochondrial Eve]] and Parasite Eve (the game), neither are Abrahamic, but both refrence Eve of Genesis, because of the widely understood ''point'' of the term. The relevance of which is that while it may be Catholic, that doesn't matter, because it's just as valid a guideline as the Ten Commandments, both of them just being religious edicts supposedly inspired by God, that in all probability are strictly of human origin. --[[User:Xavier orona\|Xavier orona]] 21:18, 14 April 2012 (PDT)		*I'd vote to put it back. Third point: this isn't a site about the (in)accuracy of religion, and the many many MANY cotnradictory beliefs and interpertations from the countless modern sects of christians/jews have on their versions of the origional oral mythologies; what Christians belive the bible means and what it ''actually'' origonally says are entirely different things. Second Point: while a standard measure does provide a good baseline, I felt that the site was always about how ''beyond'' the baseline Chris goes. While one is more likeley to violate the nuances than the general rules, those sections had a lot of good work put into them, and show through a thurough scope what a thurough failure Chris is. Lastly, on the first point, while the Seven are officially only Catholic dogma (as are, for example, the Trinity, the Saints, Exorcism/spirits, and Mary also being prayed to), they are also common knowledge and commonly understood. For example, [[wikipedia:Mitochondrial Eve]] and Parasite Eve (the game), neither are Abrahamic, but both refrence Eve of Genesis, because of the widely understood ''point'' of the term. The relevance of which is that while it may be Catholic, that doesn't matter, because it's just as valid a guideline as the Ten Commandments, both of them just being religious edicts supposedly inspired by God, that in all probability are strictly of human origin. --[[User:Xavier orona\|Xavier orona]] 21:18, 14 April 2012 (PDT)
			** I second that vote, aside from the points, Xavier made, there is also the basic reason that Chris is actually guilty of breaking all of the deadly sins. I also believe that it'll make the article a bit more interesting as well. The Levitical Laws, however, can stay gone IMO, those were just speculation at best. [[User:ElRodrigo\|ElRodrigo]] 07:56, 2 June 2012 (PDT)

	==Possession?==		==Possession?==

Xavier orona: /* Removal */

2012-04-15T04:18:24Z

Removal

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	I also removed the bit about the Levitican laws. From what I understand, that part is only applicable to Jews. I've talked to Orthodox Jews and they'll tell me all that stuff is only applicable to them, and if you do a bit of research into Christian theology you'll find out that a majority of Christians believe that Jesus superseded all the stuff about mixing fibers in clothing, not eating pork, that sort of thing. The except, a Jew would say, are the [[Wikipedia:Seven Laws of Noah\|Noachide laws]] which are the most base laws that apply to all humanity and "sexual immorality" (which would include homosexuality in standard interpretations) is one of them.--[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 06:07, 29 February 2012 (PST)		I also removed the bit about the Levitican laws. From what I understand, that part is only applicable to Jews. I've talked to Orthodox Jews and they'll tell me all that stuff is only applicable to them, and if you do a bit of research into Christian theology you'll find out that a majority of Christians believe that Jesus superseded all the stuff about mixing fibers in clothing, not eating pork, that sort of thing. The except, a Jew would say, are the [[Wikipedia:Seven Laws of Noah\|Noachide laws]] which are the most base laws that apply to all humanity and "sexual immorality" (which would include homosexuality in standard interpretations) is one of them.--[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 06:07, 29 February 2012 (PST)

			*I'd vote to put it back. Third point: this isn't a site about the (in)accuracy of religion, and the many many MANY cotnradictory beliefs and interpertations from the countless modern sects of christians/jews have on their versions of the origional oral mythologies; what Christians belive the bible means and what it ''actually'' origonally says are entirely different things. Second Point: while a standard measure does provide a good baseline, I felt that the site was always about how ''beyond'' the baseline Chris goes. While one is more likeley to violate the nuances than the general rules, those sections had a lot of good work put into them, and show through a thurough scope what a thurough failure Chris is. Lastly, on the first point, while the Seven are officially only Catholic dogma (as are, for example, the Trinity, the Saints, Exorcism/spirits, and Mary also being prayed to), they are also common knowledge and commonly understood. For example, [[wikipedia:Mitochondrial Eve]] and Parasite Eve (the game), neither are Abrahamic, but both refrence Eve of Genesis, because of the widely understood ''point'' of the term. The relevance of which is that while it may be Catholic, that doesn't matter, because it's just as valid a guideline as the Ten Commandments, both of them just being religious edicts supposedly inspired by God, that in all probability are strictly of human origin. --[[User:Xavier orona\|Xavier orona]] 21:18, 14 April 2012 (PDT)

	==Possession?==		==Possession?==