Talk:Isabella Loretta Janke - Revision history

PsychoNerd054: /* The rewrite */

2025-08-26T16:34:37Z

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	:If we're concerned about just her interactions with Chris and how her actions affected her, maybe just remove that stuff entirely. It's not like with Spooky Bones where he exploits the rumors that she pushed. [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 17:25, 23 August 2025 (EDT)		:If we're concerned about just her interactions with Chris and how her actions affected her, maybe just remove that stuff entirely. It's not like with Spooky Bones where he exploits the rumors that she pushed. [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 17:25, 23 August 2025 (EDT)
	::I mean, for example, the line about Bella gifting Chris mints, markers, and letters is only sourced by her own words. It's not known if that's true or if she was lying like with the Touhou claim. Her comments about wanting to profit off of Chris are also murky, because later in the thread she claimed she was being sarcastic. Her claim of cutting herself off from Chris is a lie based on the Kelly Andes stuff. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 22:40, 25 August 2025 (EDT)		::I mean, for example, the line about Bella gifting Chris mints, markers, and letters is only sourced by her own words. It's not known if that's true or if she was lying like with the Touhou claim. Her comments about wanting to profit off of Chris are also murky, because later in the thread she claimed she was being sarcastic. Her claim of cutting herself off from Chris is a lie based on the Kelly Andes stuff. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 22:40, 25 August 2025 (EDT)
			:::I don't think any of that is important anyway seeing how those are vague plans that didn't affect Chris. [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 12:34, 26 August 2025 (EDT)

Hurtful Truth Level: /* The rewrite */

2025-08-26T02:40:36Z

The rewrite

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	:If we're concerned about just her interactions with Chris and how her actions affected her, maybe just remove that stuff entirely. It's not like with Spooky Bones where he exploits the rumors that she pushed. [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 17:25, 23 August 2025 (EDT)		:If we're concerned about just her interactions with Chris and how her actions affected her, maybe just remove that stuff entirely. It's not like with Spooky Bones where he exploits the rumors that she pushed. [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 17:25, 23 August 2025 (EDT)
			::I mean, for example, the line about Bella gifting Chris mints, markers, and letters is only sourced by her own words. It's not known if that's true or if she was lying like with the Touhou claim. Her comments about wanting to profit off of Chris are also murky, because later in the thread she claimed she was being sarcastic. Her claim of cutting herself off from Chris is a lie based on the Kelly Andes stuff. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 22:40, 25 August 2025 (EDT)

PsychoNerd054: /* The rewrite */

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The rewrite

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	Are we giving too much weight to orbiter drama and to Bella's claims? For example, the CrystalGate stuff is something that had no effect on Chris, and Bella being such a liar makes it impossible to take her statements seriously without some corroboration. I wonder if it would be simpler to maybe have a section that is just, "Examples of Bella's dubious remarks" or something. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 17:21, 23 August 2025 (EDT)		Are we giving too much weight to orbiter drama and to Bella's claims? For example, the CrystalGate stuff is something that had no effect on Chris, and Bella being such a liar makes it impossible to take her statements seriously without some corroboration. I wonder if it would be simpler to maybe have a section that is just, "Examples of Bella's dubious remarks" or something. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 17:21, 23 August 2025 (EDT)

			:If we're concerned about just her interactions with Chris and how her actions affected her, maybe just remove that stuff entirely. It's not like with Spooky Bones where he exploits the rumors that she pushed. [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 17:25, 23 August 2025 (EDT)

Hurtful Truth Level: /* The rewrite */ new section

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	::Even if Spooky promoted some of those rumors, Chris still put his own spin on them or came up with original lies when talking about Bella, who is the subject of this article. So the details should go here. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 13:18, 23 June 2025 (EDT)		::Even if Spooky promoted some of those rumors, Chris still put his own spin on them or came up with original lies when talking about Bella, who is the subject of this article. So the details should go here. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 13:18, 23 June 2025 (EDT)
	:::Eh, I suppose that's fair. I also kind of felt that just having all of the lies Chris made (regarding ''BOTH'' Bella and Fiona) on the one page would be more convenient as well. I suppose we could have a copy of those lies on each of the pages and/or elaborate where necessary. [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 13:26, 23 June 2025 (EDT)		:::Eh, I suppose that's fair. I also kind of felt that just having all of the lies Chris made (regarding ''BOTH'' Bella and Fiona) on the one page would be more convenient as well. I suppose we could have a copy of those lies on each of the pages and/or elaborate where necessary. [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 13:26, 23 June 2025 (EDT)

			== The rewrite ==

			Are we giving too much weight to orbiter drama and to Bella's claims? For example, the CrystalGate stuff is something that had no effect on Chris, and Bella being such a liar makes it impossible to take her statements seriously without some corroboration. I wonder if it would be simpler to maybe have a section that is just, "Examples of Bella's dubious remarks" or something. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 17:21, 23 August 2025 (EDT)

PsychoNerd054: /* Narutoisgay77897 */

2025-06-28T21:58:47Z

Narutoisgay77897

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	::::Maybe instead of the AKA box, the naruto stuff could be mentioned in Chris's lies section. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 17:57, 28 June 2025 (EDT)		::::Maybe instead of the AKA box, the naruto stuff could be mentioned in Chris's lies section. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 17:57, 28 June 2025 (EDT)

			:::::It's also discussed in Spooky's page under the "Effects on Chris" section, so I'm perfectly fine with removing the name from the AKA box. [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 17:58, 28 June 2025 (EDT)

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Hurtful Truth Level: /* Narutoisgay77897 */

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Narutoisgay77897

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			::::Maybe instead of the AKA box, the naruto stuff could be mentioned in Chris's lies section. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 17:57, 28 June 2025 (EDT)

	== Aliases ==		== Aliases ==

PsychoNerd054: /* Narutoisgay77897 */

2025-06-28T21:51:16Z

Narutoisgay77897

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	:::He mentions them in the [[The Chris Chan Interview\|Keffals interview]] from 16 January 2024. There he talks about how Bella purportedly showed him incest fanfics. He said:		:::He mentions them in the [[The Chris Chan Interview\|Keffals interview]] from 16 January 2024. There he talks about how Bella purportedly showed him incest fanfics. He said:

	{{quotebox\|But then, yeah, Bella, she also tried to get me or rather persuade me into other sexual deviations of which I declined and she actually got me to go into roleplay and fictions which she had, which she presented just like various things and some of these were actually written in fanfics by others in this timeline and because shoot what did that do}}		:::{{quotebox\|But then, yeah, Bella, she also tried to get me or rather persuade me into other sexual deviations of which I declined and she actually got me to go into roleplay and fictions which she had, which she presented just like various things and some of these were actually written in fanfics by others in this timeline and because shoot what did that do}}

	[[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 17:51, 28 June 2025 (EDT)		[[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 17:51, 28 June 2025 (EDT)

PsychoNerd054: /* Narutoisgay77897 */

2025-06-28T21:51:08Z

Narutoisgay77897

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	::Still not sure this username should be included in the AKA box because it doesn't seem fully confirmed. Where did Chris mention fanfics? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 17:48, 28 June 2025 (EDT)		::Still not sure this username should be included in the AKA box because it doesn't seem fully confirmed. Where did Chris mention fanfics? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 17:48, 28 June 2025 (EDT)

			:::He mentions them in the [[The Chris Chan Interview\|Keffals interview]] from 16 January 2024. There he talks about how Bella purportedly showed him incest fanfics. He said:

			{{quotebox\|But then, yeah, Bella, she also tried to get me or rather persuade me into other sexual deviations of which I declined and she actually got me to go into roleplay and fictions which she had, which she presented just like various things and some of these were actually written in fanfics by others in this timeline and because shoot what did that do}}

			[[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 17:51, 28 June 2025 (EDT)

	== Aliases ==		== Aliases ==

Hurtful Truth Level: /* Narutoisgay77897 */

2025-06-28T21:48:51Z

Narutoisgay77897

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	:Maybe comment it out for a bit. We shouldn't include it unless we know for certain it's Bella. I can certainly see cases where people get attacked just because we assume they're Bella. [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 15:33, 2 April 2022 (UTC)		:Maybe comment it out for a bit. We shouldn't include it unless we know for certain it's Bella. I can certainly see cases where people get attacked just because we assume they're Bella. [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 15:33, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

			::Still not sure this username should be included in the AKA box because it doesn't seem fully confirmed. Where did Chris mention fanfics? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 17:48, 28 June 2025 (EDT)

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PsychoNerd054: /* Chris's lies */

2025-06-23T17:26:07Z

Chris's lies

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	:I do think we can summarize the lies here. I just felt that Spooky's page would be a more appropriate place to go into more detail about the lies, since they are primarily based on things they said and spread around. Said page is also meant to go into detail about the specific rumors that Chris perpetuates (such as the suicide and blackmail plots). [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 13:04, 23 June 2025 (EDT)		:I do think we can summarize the lies here. I just felt that Spooky's page would be a more appropriate place to go into more detail about the lies, since they are primarily based on things they said and spread around. Said page is also meant to go into detail about the specific rumors that Chris perpetuates (such as the suicide and blackmail plots). [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 13:04, 23 June 2025 (EDT)
	::Even if Spooky promoted some of those rumors, Chris still put his own spin on them or came up with original lies when talking about Bella, who is the subject of this article. So the details should go here. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 13:18, 23 June 2025 (EDT)		::Even if Spooky promoted some of those rumors, Chris still put his own spin on them or came up with original lies when talking about Bella, who is the subject of this article. So the details should go here. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 13:18, 23 June 2025 (EDT)
			:::Eh, I suppose that's fair. I also kind of felt that just having all of the lies Chris made (regarding ''BOTH'' Bella and Fiona) on the one page would be more convenient as well. I suppose we could have a copy of those lies on each of the pages and/or elaborate where necessary. [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 13:26, 23 June 2025 (EDT)

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	:If we're concerned about just her interactions with Chris and how her actions affected her, maybe just remove that stuff entirely. It's not like with Spooky Bones where he exploits the rumors that she pushed. [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 17:25, 23 August 2025 (EDT)		:If we're concerned about just her interactions with Chris and how her actions affected her, maybe just remove that stuff entirely. It's not like with Spooky Bones where he exploits the rumors that she pushed. [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 17:25, 23 August 2025 (EDT)
	::I mean, for example, the line about Bella gifting Chris mints, markers, and letters is only sourced by her own words. It's not known if that's true or if she was lying like with the Touhou claim. Her comments about wanting to profit off of Chris are also murky, because later in the thread she claimed she was being sarcastic. Her claim of cutting herself off from Chris is a lie based on the Kelly Andes stuff. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 22:40, 25 August 2025 (EDT)		::I mean, for example, the line about Bella gifting Chris mints, markers, and letters is only sourced by her own words. It's not known if that's true or if she was lying like with the Touhou claim. Her comments about wanting to profit off of Chris are also murky, because later in the thread she claimed she was being sarcastic. Her claim of cutting herself off from Chris is a lie based on the Kelly Andes stuff. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 22:40, 25 August 2025 (EDT)
			:::I don't think any of that is important anyway seeing how those are vague plans that didn't affect Chris. [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 12:34, 26 August 2025 (EDT)

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	:::He mentions them in the [[The Chris Chan Interview\|Keffals interview]] from 16 January 2024. There he talks about how Bella purportedly showed him incest fanfics. He said:		:::He mentions them in the [[The Chris Chan Interview\|Keffals interview]] from 16 January 2024. There he talks about how Bella purportedly showed him incest fanfics. He said:

	{{quotebox\|But then, yeah, Bella, she also tried to get me or rather persuade me into other sexual deviations of which I declined and she actually got me to go into roleplay and fictions which she had, which she presented just like various things and some of these were actually written in fanfics by others in this timeline and because shoot what did that do}}		:::{{quotebox\|But then, yeah, Bella, she also tried to get me or rather persuade me into other sexual deviations of which I declined and she actually got me to go into roleplay and fictions which she had, which she presented just like various things and some of these were actually written in fanfics by others in this timeline and because shoot what did that do}}

	[[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 17:51, 28 June 2025 (EDT)		[[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 17:51, 28 June 2025 (EDT)

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	:I do think we can summarize the lies here. I just felt that Spooky's page would be a more appropriate place to go into more detail about the lies, since they are primarily based on things they said and spread around. Said page is also meant to go into detail about the specific rumors that Chris perpetuates (such as the suicide and blackmail plots). [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 13:04, 23 June 2025 (EDT)		:I do think we can summarize the lies here. I just felt that Spooky's page would be a more appropriate place to go into more detail about the lies, since they are primarily based on things they said and spread around. Said page is also meant to go into detail about the specific rumors that Chris perpetuates (such as the suicide and blackmail plots). [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 13:04, 23 June 2025 (EDT)
	::Even if Spooky promoted some of those rumors, Chris still put his own spin on them or came up with original lies when talking about Bella, who is the subject of this article. So the details should go here. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 13:18, 23 June 2025 (EDT)		::Even if Spooky promoted some of those rumors, Chris still put his own spin on them or came up with original lies when talking about Bella, who is the subject of this article. So the details should go here. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 13:18, 23 June 2025 (EDT)
			:::Eh, I suppose that's fair. I also kind of felt that just having all of the lies Chris made (regarding ''BOTH'' Bella and Fiona) on the one page would be more convenient as well. I suppose we could have a copy of those lies on each of the pages and/or elaborate where necessary. [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 13:26, 23 June 2025 (EDT)