Talk:Lukas, Devil and Eva - Revision history

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	:Someone in CWCki Server suggested renaming to just Lukas since Lukas is the main aspect and Devil and Eva were footnotes. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 17:38, 23 September 2025 (EDT)		:Someone in CWCki Server suggested renaming to just Lukas since Lukas is the main aspect and Devil and Eva were footnotes. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 17:38, 23 September 2025 (EDT)
	::I don't know, they are more of a collective. I think either keep it as "Teen Troon Squad", or rename it "TTS", "The TTS", or "Lukas, Devil and Eva". [[User:Master\|Master]] ([[User talk:Master\|talk]]) 17:51, 23 September 2025 (EDT)		::I don't know, they are more of a collective. I think either keep it as "Teen Troon Squad", or rename it "TTS", "The TTS", or "Lukas, Devil and Eva". [[User:Master\|Master]] ([[User talk:Master\|talk]]) 17:51, 23 September 2025 (EDT)

			== Splitting Magi-Chan doxing incident ==

			Maybe this section should be a standalone article? On one hand, the drama was brief and was just in the form of tweets, but on the other it's referenced in multiple articles. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 20:45, 30 March 2026 (EDT)

Hurtful Truth Level: Hurtful Truth Level moved page Talk:Teen Troon Squad to Talk:Lukas, Devil and Eva

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	:Someone in CWCki Server suggested renaming to just Lukas since Lukas is the main aspect and Devil and Eva were footnotes. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 17:38, 23 September 2025 (EDT)		:Someone in CWCki Server suggested renaming to just Lukas since Lukas is the main aspect and Devil and Eva were footnotes. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 17:38, 23 September 2025 (EDT)
			::I don't know, they are more of a collective. I think either keep it as "Teen Troon Squad", or rename it "TTS", "The TTS", or "Lukas, Devil and Eva". [[User:Master\|Master]] ([[User talk:Master\|talk]]) 17:51, 23 September 2025 (EDT)

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	:::::::Yeah, maybe "Lukas, Devil and Eva" could work. I'm not really sure if it's a good idea to create a new name right off the bat. [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 07:41, 20 September 2025 (EDT)		:::::::Yeah, maybe "Lukas, Devil and Eva" could work. I'm not really sure if it's a good idea to create a new name right off the bat. [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 07:41, 20 September 2025 (EDT)

	:Someone in CWCki Server suggested renaming to just Lukas since Lukas is the main aspect and ~~the~~ Devil and Eva were footnotes. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 17:38, 23 September 2025 (EDT)		:Someone in CWCki Server suggested renaming to just Lukas since Lukas is the main aspect and Devil and Eva were footnotes. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 17:38, 23 September 2025 (EDT)

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	:::::::Yeah, maybe "Lukas, Devil and Eva" could work. I'm not really sure if it's a good idea to create a new name right off the bat. [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 07:41, 20 September 2025 (EDT)		:::::::Yeah, maybe "Lukas, Devil and Eva" could work. I'm not really sure if it's a good idea to create a new name right off the bat. [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 07:41, 20 September 2025 (EDT)

			:Someone in CWCki Server suggested renaming to just Lukas since Lukas is the main aspect and the Devil and Eva were footnotes. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 17:38, 23 September 2025 (EDT)

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	::::::Though there's also the question of if their Saga page's entry should be renamed as well. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 14:39, 19 September 2025 (EDT)		::::::Though there's also the question of if their Saga page's entry should be renamed as well. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 14:39, 19 September 2025 (EDT)

			:::::::Yeah, maybe "Lukas, Devil and Eva" could work. I'm not really sure if it's a good idea to create a new name right off the bat. [[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 07:41, 20 September 2025 (EDT)

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	::::A random KF user came up with the name. I don't know if they objected but they didn't have much of a platform for that. Chris himself has only referred to them as "Lukas, Devil and Eva". [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 11:39, 18 September 2025 (EDT)		::::A random KF user came up with the name. I don't know if they objected but they didn't have much of a platform for that. Chris himself has only referred to them as "Lukas, Devil and Eva". [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 11:39, 18 September 2025 (EDT)
	:::::In that case, I think I'd be fine with renaming the page, but we might need to keep the "Teen Troon Squad" name the same way we kept the "Suitress" codename, since they're so ingrained in the CWC community.[[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 15:13, 18 September 2025 (EDT)		:::::In that case, I think I'd be fine with renaming the page, but we might need to keep the "Teen Troon Squad" name the same way we kept the "Suitress" codename, since they're so ingrained in the CWC community.[[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 15:13, 18 September 2025 (EDT)
			::::::Yeah, it could be a secondary name on the page. What if we rename to "Lukas, Devil and Eva" and have the opening paragraph be something like:

			{{collapsible\|text\|'''Lukas Simpkins, Devil and Eva''' are a former trio of Chris's [[trolls]]. They were dubbed the '''Teen Troon Squad''' by [[Kiwi Farms]] users, including the [[Guard Dogs]] - "troon" being a slur towards [[transgender]] people.}}

			::::::Though there's also the question of if their Saga page's entry should be renamed as well. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 14:39, 19 September 2025 (EDT)

PsychoNerd054: /* Rename? */

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	:::::I'm also not transphobic, but I agree with Master. The main issue I see with renaming the page is that even if we wanted to deviate from using slurs, this is still their established combined name within the community. I'm also not opposed to just calling them the TTS, either.[[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 23:27, 17 September 2025 (EDT)		:::::I'm also not transphobic, but I agree with Master. The main issue I see with renaming the page is that even if we wanted to deviate from using slurs, this is still their established combined name within the community. I'm also not opposed to just calling them the TTS, either.[[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 23:27, 17 September 2025 (EDT)
	::::A random KF user came up with the name. I don't know if they objected but they didn't have much of a platform for that. Chris himself has only referred to them as "Lukas, Devil and Eva". [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 11:39, 18 September 2025 (EDT)		::::A random KF user came up with the name. I don't know if they objected but they didn't have much of a platform for that. Chris himself has only referred to them as "Lukas, Devil and Eva". [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 11:39, 18 September 2025 (EDT)
	:::::In that case, I think I'd be fine with renaming the page, but we might need to keep the "Teen Troon Squad" name the same way we kept the "Suitress" codename, since they're so ingrained in the CWC community.		:::::In that case, I think I'd be fine with renaming the page, but we might need to keep the "Teen Troon Squad" name the same way we kept the "Suitress" codename, since they're so ingrained in the CWC community.[[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 15:13, 18 September 2025 (EDT)

PsychoNerd054 at 19:11, 18 September 2025

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	:::::I'm also not transphobic, but I agree with Master. The main issue I see with renaming the page is that even if we wanted to deviate from using slurs, this is still their established combined name within the community. I'm also not opposed to just calling them the TTS, either.[[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 23:27, 17 September 2025 (EDT)		:::::I'm also not transphobic, but I agree with Master. The main issue I see with renaming the page is that even if we wanted to deviate from using slurs, this is still their established combined name within the community. I'm also not opposed to just calling them the TTS, either.[[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 23:27, 17 September 2025 (EDT)
	::::A random KF user came up with the name. I don't know if they objected but they didn't have much of a platform for that. Chris himself has only referred to them as "Lukas, Devil and Eva". [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 11:39, 18 September 2025 (EDT)		::::A random KF user came up with the name. I don't know if they objected but they didn't have much of a platform for that. Chris himself has only referred to them as "Lukas, Devil and Eva". [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 11:39, 18 September 2025 (EDT)
			:::::In that case, I think I'd be fine with renaming the page, but we might need to keep the "Teen Troon Squad" name the same way we kept the "Suitress" codename, since they're so ingrained in the CWC community.

Hurtful Truth Level: /* Rename? */

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	::::It is what they are commonly known as. I believe they were named by The Captain or Marvin? Did Lukas, Devil, or Eva even object to the name? I'm not transphobic like a lot of Kiwi Farms members and fine with it. People who aren't comfortable with saying "troon" could say TTS I think. But maybe we should make it abundantly clear that troon is a slur on this page and the Saga page as it did get some people into trouble before who weren't aware. And provide TTS as an alternative. [[User:Master\|Master]] ([[User talk:Master\|talk]]) 23:10, 17 September 2025 (EDT)		::::It is what they are commonly known as. I believe they were named by The Captain or Marvin? Did Lukas, Devil, or Eva even object to the name? I'm not transphobic like a lot of Kiwi Farms members and fine with it. People who aren't comfortable with saying "troon" could say TTS I think. But maybe we should make it abundantly clear that troon is a slur on this page and the Saga page as it did get some people into trouble before who weren't aware. And provide TTS as an alternative. [[User:Master\|Master]] ([[User talk:Master\|talk]]) 23:10, 17 September 2025 (EDT)
	:::::I'm also not transphobic, but I agree with Master. The main issue I see with renaming the page is that even if we wanted to deviate from using slurs, this is still their established combined name within the community. I'm also not opposed to just calling them the TTS, either.[[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 23:27, 17 September 2025 (EDT)		:::::I'm also not transphobic, but I agree with Master. The main issue I see with renaming the page is that even if we wanted to deviate from using slurs, this is still their established combined name within the community. I'm also not opposed to just calling them the TTS, either.[[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 23:27, 17 September 2025 (EDT)
			::::A random KF user came up with the name. I don't know if they objected but they didn't have much of a platform for that. Chris himself has only referred to them as "Lukas, Devil and Eva". [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 11:39, 18 September 2025 (EDT)

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	::::A random KF user came up with the name. I don't know if they objected but they didn't have much of a platform for that. Chris himself has only referred to them as "Lukas, Devil and Eva". [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 11:39, 18 September 2025 (EDT)		::::A random KF user came up with the name. I don't know if they objected but they didn't have much of a platform for that. Chris himself has only referred to them as "Lukas, Devil and Eva". [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 11:39, 18 September 2025 (EDT)
	:::::In that case, I think I'd be fine with renaming the page, but we might need to keep the "Teen Troon Squad" name the same way we kept the "Suitress" codename, since they're so ingrained in the CWC community.[[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 15:13, 18 September 2025 (EDT)		:::::In that case, I think I'd be fine with renaming the page, but we might need to keep the "Teen Troon Squad" name the same way we kept the "Suitress" codename, since they're so ingrained in the CWC community.[[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 15:13, 18 September 2025 (EDT)
			::::::Yeah, it could be a secondary name on the page. What if we rename to "Lukas, Devil and Eva" and have the opening paragraph be something like:

			{{collapsible\|text\|'''Lukas Simpkins, Devil and Eva''' are a former trio of Chris's [[trolls]]. They were dubbed the '''Teen Troon Squad''' by [[Kiwi Farms]] users, including the [[Guard Dogs]] - "troon" being a slur towards [[transgender]] people.}}

			::::::Though there's also the question of if their Saga page's entry should be renamed as well. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 14:39, 19 September 2025 (EDT)

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	::::It is what they are commonly known as. I believe they were named by The Captain or Marvin? Did Lukas, Devil, or Eva even object to the name? I'm not transphobic like a lot of Kiwi Farms members and fine with it. People who aren't comfortable with saying "troon" could say TTS I think. But maybe we should make it abundantly clear that troon is a slur on this page and the Saga page as it did get some people into trouble before who weren't aware. And provide TTS as an alternative. [[User:Master\|Master]] ([[User talk:Master\|talk]]) 23:10, 17 September 2025 (EDT)		::::It is what they are commonly known as. I believe they were named by The Captain or Marvin? Did Lukas, Devil, or Eva even object to the name? I'm not transphobic like a lot of Kiwi Farms members and fine with it. People who aren't comfortable with saying "troon" could say TTS I think. But maybe we should make it abundantly clear that troon is a slur on this page and the Saga page as it did get some people into trouble before who weren't aware. And provide TTS as an alternative. [[User:Master\|Master]] ([[User talk:Master\|talk]]) 23:10, 17 September 2025 (EDT)
	:::::I'm also not transphobic, but I agree with Master. The main issue I see with renaming the page is that even if we wanted to deviate from using slurs, this is still their established combined name within the community. I'm also not opposed to just calling them the TTS, either.[[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 23:27, 17 September 2025 (EDT)		:::::I'm also not transphobic, but I agree with Master. The main issue I see with renaming the page is that even if we wanted to deviate from using slurs, this is still their established combined name within the community. I'm also not opposed to just calling them the TTS, either.[[User:PsychoNerd054\|Psycho 🐧]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054\|talk]]) 23:27, 17 September 2025 (EDT)
			::::A random KF user came up with the name. I don't know if they objected but they didn't have much of a platform for that. Chris himself has only referred to them as "Lukas, Devil and Eva". [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 11:39, 18 September 2025 (EDT)