Talk:Rocky Shoemaker - Revision history

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	:Rocky's the one who introduced Bell to Barb and suggested hiring Bell and Barb wholeheartedly went with it. Had Rocky not done that, Barb wouldn't have turned to him and hire him and blow away that cash. So yes she did unwittingly instigate the Financhu Crisis.[[User:Makuchi\|Makuchi]] ([[User talk:Makuchi\|talk]]) 11:04, 14 August 2025 (EDT)		:Rocky's the one who introduced Bell to Barb and suggested hiring Bell and Barb wholeheartedly went with it. Had Rocky not done that, Barb wouldn't have turned to him and hire him and blow away that cash. So yes she did unwittingly instigate the Financhu Crisis.[[User:Makuchi\|Makuchi]] ([[User talk:Makuchi\|talk]]) 11:04, 14 August 2025 (EDT)
	::The onus was still on Barb to decide if she could afford Bell. She could have asked for another recommendation. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 02:38, 15 August 2025 (EDT)		::The onus was still on Barb to decide if she could afford Bell. She could have asked for another recommendation. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 02:38, 15 August 2025 (EDT)

			== Eliminate subsections ==

			The four subsections are inconsistently titled and could probably just be eliminated and replaced with a History section. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 01:56, 18 October 2025 (EDT)

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	I dunno if it should really say that Rocky's recommendation of Bell "unwittingly instigated" the Crisis. After all, Barb was ultimately the one who decided to hire Bell, knowing her own finances. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 03:17, 14 August 2025 (EDT)		I dunno if it should really say that Rocky's recommendation of Bell "unwittingly instigated" the Crisis. After all, Barb was ultimately the one who decided to hire Bell, knowing her own finances. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 03:17, 14 August 2025 (EDT)
	:Rocky's the one who introduced Bell to Barb and suggested hiring Bell and Barb wholeheartedly went with it. Had Rocky not done that, Barb wouldn't have turned to him and hire him and blow away that cash. So yes she did unwittingly instigate the Financhu Crisis.[[User:Makuchi\|Makuchi]] ([[User talk:Makuchi\|talk]]) 11:04, 14 August 2025 (EDT)		:Rocky's the one who introduced Bell to Barb and suggested hiring Bell and Barb wholeheartedly went with it. Had Rocky not done that, Barb wouldn't have turned to him and hire him and blow away that cash. So yes she did unwittingly instigate the Financhu Crisis.[[User:Makuchi\|Makuchi]] ([[User talk:Makuchi\|talk]]) 11:04, 14 August 2025 (EDT)
			::The onus was still on Barb to decide if she could afford Bell. She could have asked for another recommendation. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 02:38, 15 August 2025 (EDT)

Makuchi: /* Rob Bell and the Financhu Crisis */

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	I dunno if it should really say that Rocky's recommendation of Bell "unwittingly instigated" the Crisis. After all, Barb was ultimately the one who decided to hire Bell, knowing her own finances. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 03:17, 14 August 2025 (EDT)		I dunno if it should really say that Rocky's recommendation of Bell "unwittingly instigated" the Crisis. After all, Barb was ultimately the one who decided to hire Bell, knowing her own finances. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 03:17, 14 August 2025 (EDT)
			:Rocky's the one who introduced Bell to Barb and suggested hiring Bell and Barb wholeheartedly went with it. Had Rocky not done that, Barb wouldn't have turned to him and hire him and blow away that cash. So yes she did unwittingly instigate the Financhu Crisis.[[User:Makuchi\|Makuchi]] ([[User talk:Makuchi\|talk]]) 11:04, 14 August 2025 (EDT)

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	:Really though, I don't think they're necessary to understand how they influence Chris. For fuck's sake, MLW could have pressed charges on Chris but made him get help and even let him back in. Rocky is no saint but she's one of the more sympathetic characters. Although I'm not a moralfag, I'd like to respect their privacy, especially for putting up with such a terrible person. Besides, this is a Wiki about Chris, not about anyone. Unless it's absolutely necessary to understanding Chris, I think we should leave their real-life identities out of it. [[User:Barry\|Barry]] 12:11, 12 December 2011 (PST)		:Really though, I don't think they're necessary to understand how they influence Chris. For fuck's sake, MLW could have pressed charges on Chris but made him get help and even let him back in. Rocky is no saint but she's one of the more sympathetic characters. Although I'm not a moralfag, I'd like to respect their privacy, especially for putting up with such a terrible person. Besides, this is a Wiki about Chris, not about anyone. Unless it's absolutely necessary to understanding Chris, I think we should leave their real-life identities out of it. [[User:Barry\|Barry]] 12:11, 12 December 2011 (PST)
	::Half the MLW article and the whole Rocky article are based around their irl identity, so hiding it is pointless. The photos were also taken from public sources (The Rocky one, anyway. Not sure what the source for the MLW picture is), so I fail to see how these pictures violate their privacy. If you were removing dox, which we don't have, I'd understand; but these pictures are harmless and relevant, so I say they be put back. --[[User:T K 19\|T K 19]] 12:49, 12 December 2011 (PST)		::Half the MLW article and the whole Rocky article are based around their irl identity, so hiding it is pointless. The photos were also taken from public sources (The Rocky one, anyway. Not sure what the source for the MLW picture is), so I fail to see how these pictures violate their privacy. If you were removing dox, which we don't have, I'd understand; but these pictures are harmless and relevant, so I say they be put back. --[[User:T K 19\|T K 19]] 12:49, 12 December 2011 (PST)

			== Rob Bell and the Financhu Crisis ==

			I dunno if it should really say that Rocky's recommendation of Bell "unwittingly instigated" the Crisis. After all, Barb was ultimately the one who decided to hire Bell, knowing her own finances. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 03:17, 14 August 2025 (EDT)

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Did she die?

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	:Really though, I don't think they're necessary to understand how they influence Chris. For fuck's sake, MLW could have pressed charges on Chris but made him get help and even let him back in. Rocky is no saint but she's one of the more sympathetic characters. Although I'm not a moralfag, I'd like to respect their privacy, especially for putting up with such a terrible person. Besides, this is a Wiki about Chris, not about anyone. Unless it's absolutely necessary to understanding Chris, I think we should leave their real-life identities out of it. [[User:Barry\|Barry]] 12:11, 12 December 2011 (PST)		:Really though, I don't think they're necessary to understand how they influence Chris. For fuck's sake, MLW could have pressed charges on Chris but made him get help and even let him back in. Rocky is no saint but she's one of the more sympathetic characters. Although I'm not a moralfag, I'd like to respect their privacy, especially for putting up with such a terrible person. Besides, this is a Wiki about Chris, not about anyone. Unless it's absolutely necessary to understanding Chris, I think we should leave their real-life identities out of it. [[User:Barry\|Barry]] 12:11, 12 December 2011 (PST)
	::Half the MLW article and the whole Rocky article are based around their irl identity, so hiding it is pointless. The photos were also taken from public sources (The Rocky one, anyway. Not sure what the source for the MLW picture is), so I fail to see how these pictures violate their privacy. If you were removing dox, which we don't have, I'd understand; but these pictures are harmless and relevant, so I say they be put back. --[[User:T K 19\|T K 19]] 12:49, 12 December 2011 (PST)		::Half the MLW article and the whole Rocky article are based around their irl identity, so hiding it is pointless. The photos were also taken from public sources (The Rocky one, anyway. Not sure what the source for the MLW picture is), so I fail to see how these pictures violate their privacy. If you were removing dox, which we don't have, I'd understand; but these pictures are harmless and relevant, so I say they be put back. --[[User:T K 19\|T K 19]] 12:49, 12 December 2011 (PST)

	~~== Did she die? ==~~

	~~https://www.greeleytribune.com/2014/12/29/tributes-for-dec-28-2/~~

Phykings: /* Did she die? */ new section

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	:Really though, I don't think they're necessary to understand how they influence Chris. For fuck's sake, MLW could have pressed charges on Chris but made him get help and even let him back in. Rocky is no saint but she's one of the more sympathetic characters. Although I'm not a moralfag, I'd like to respect their privacy, especially for putting up with such a terrible person. Besides, this is a Wiki about Chris, not about anyone. Unless it's absolutely necessary to understanding Chris, I think we should leave their real-life identities out of it. [[User:Barry\|Barry]] 12:11, 12 December 2011 (PST)		:Really though, I don't think they're necessary to understand how they influence Chris. For fuck's sake, MLW could have pressed charges on Chris but made him get help and even let him back in. Rocky is no saint but she's one of the more sympathetic characters. Although I'm not a moralfag, I'd like to respect their privacy, especially for putting up with such a terrible person. Besides, this is a Wiki about Chris, not about anyone. Unless it's absolutely necessary to understanding Chris, I think we should leave their real-life identities out of it. [[User:Barry\|Barry]] 12:11, 12 December 2011 (PST)
	::Half the MLW article and the whole Rocky article are based around their irl identity, so hiding it is pointless. The photos were also taken from public sources (The Rocky one, anyway. Not sure what the source for the MLW picture is), so I fail to see how these pictures violate their privacy. If you were removing dox, which we don't have, I'd understand; but these pictures are harmless and relevant, so I say they be put back. --[[User:T K 19\|T K 19]] 12:49, 12 December 2011 (PST)		::Half the MLW article and the whole Rocky article are based around their irl identity, so hiding it is pointless. The photos were also taken from public sources (The Rocky one, anyway. Not sure what the source for the MLW picture is), so I fail to see how these pictures violate their privacy. If you were removing dox, which we don't have, I'd understand; but these pictures are harmless and relevant, so I say they be put back. --[[User:T K 19\|T K 19]] 12:49, 12 December 2011 (PST)

			== Did she die? ==

			https://www.greeleytribune.com/2014/12/29/tributes-for-dec-28-2/

T K 19: /* Photos */

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Photos

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	I sure hope there's a better reason for removing the irl photos from this and the [[Mary Lee Walsh]] articles besides "not needed". --[[User:T K 19\|T K 19]] 10:38, 12 December 2011 (PST)		I sure hope there's a better reason for removing the irl photos from this and the [[Mary Lee Walsh]] articles besides "not needed". --[[User:T K 19\|T K 19]] 10:38, 12 December 2011 (PST)
	:Really though, I don't think they're necessary to understand how they influence Chris. For fuck's sake, MLW could have pressed charges on Chris but made him get help and even let him back in. Rocky is no saint but she's one of the more sympathetic characters. Although I'm not a moralfag, I'd like to respect their privacy, especially for putting up with such a terrible person. Besides, this is a Wiki about Chris, not about anyone. Unless it's absolutely necessary to understanding Chris, I think we should leave their real-life identities out of it. [[User:Barry\|Barry]] 12:11, 12 December 2011 (PST)		:Really though, I don't think they're necessary to understand how they influence Chris. For fuck's sake, MLW could have pressed charges on Chris but made him get help and even let him back in. Rocky is no saint but she's one of the more sympathetic characters. Although I'm not a moralfag, I'd like to respect their privacy, especially for putting up with such a terrible person. Besides, this is a Wiki about Chris, not about anyone. Unless it's absolutely necessary to understanding Chris, I think we should leave their real-life identities out of it. [[User:Barry\|Barry]] 12:11, 12 December 2011 (PST)
			::Half the MLW article and the whole Rocky article are based around their irl identity, so hiding it is pointless. The photos were also taken from public sources (The Rocky one, anyway. Not sure what the source for the MLW picture is), so I fail to see how these pictures violate their privacy. If you were removing dox, which we don't have, I'd understand; but these pictures are harmless and relevant, so I say they be put back. --[[User:T K 19\|T K 19]] 12:49, 12 December 2011 (PST)

Barry: /* Photos */

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Photos

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	I sure hope there's a better reason for removing the irl photos from this and the [[Mary Lee Walsh]] articles besides "not needed". --[[User:T K 19\|T K 19]] 10:38, 12 December 2011 (PST)		I sure hope there's a better reason for removing the irl photos from this and the [[Mary Lee Walsh]] articles besides "not needed". --[[User:T K 19\|T K 19]] 10:38, 12 December 2011 (PST)
	:Really though, I don't think they're necessary to understand how they influence Chris. For fuck's sake, MLW could have pressed charges on Chris but made him get help and even let him back in. Rocky is no saint but she's one of the more sympathetic characters. Although I'm not a moralfag, I'd like to respect their privacy, especially for putting up with such a terrible person. Besides, this is a Wiki about Chris, not about anyone. Unless it's absolutely necessary to understanding, I think we should leave their real-life identities out of it. [[User:Barry\|Barry]] 12:11, 12 December 2011 (PST)		:Really though, I don't think they're necessary to understand how they influence Chris. For fuck's sake, MLW could have pressed charges on Chris but made him get help and even let him back in. Rocky is no saint but she's one of the more sympathetic characters. Although I'm not a moralfag, I'd like to respect their privacy, especially for putting up with such a terrible person. Besides, this is a Wiki about Chris, not about anyone. Unless it's absolutely necessary to understanding Chris, I think we should leave their real-life identities out of it. [[User:Barry\|Barry]] 12:11, 12 December 2011 (PST)

Barry: /* Photos */

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Photos

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	I sure hope there's a better reason for removing the irl photos from this and the [[Mary Lee Walsh]] articles besides "not needed". --[[User:T K 19\|T K 19]] 10:38, 12 December 2011 (PST)		I sure hope there's a better reason for removing the irl photos from this and the [[Mary Lee Walsh]] articles besides "not needed". --[[User:T K 19\|T K 19]] 10:38, 12 December 2011 (PST)
			:Really though, I don't think they're necessary to understand how they influence Chris. For fuck's sake, MLW could have pressed charges on Chris but made him get help and even let him back in. Rocky is no saint but she's one of the more sympathetic characters. Although I'm not a moralfag, I'd like to respect their privacy, especially for putting up with such a terrible person. Besides, this is a Wiki about Chris, not about anyone. Unless it's absolutely necessary to understanding, I think we should leave their real-life identities out of it. [[User:Barry\|Barry]] 12:11, 12 December 2011 (PST)

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Photos: new section

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	* A sentence at best. Chris's church already has a disclaimer on it's site that say's it gay-affirming, so it only makes sense that their pastor is too. --[[User:SargentPickles\|SargentPickles]] 19:20, 5 March 2011 (PST)		* A sentence at best. Chris's church already has a disclaimer on it's site that say's it gay-affirming, so it only makes sense that their pastor is too. --[[User:SargentPickles\|SargentPickles]] 19:20, 5 March 2011 (PST)

			== Photos ==

			I sure hope there's a better reason for removing the irl photos from this and the [[Mary Lee Walsh]] articles besides "not needed". --[[User:T K 19\|T K 19]] 10:38, 12 December 2011 (PST)

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	I dunno if it should really say that Rocky's recommendation of Bell "unwittingly instigated" the Crisis. After all, Barb was ultimately the one who decided to hire Bell, knowing her own finances. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 03:17, 14 August 2025 (EDT)		I dunno if it should really say that Rocky's recommendation of Bell "unwittingly instigated" the Crisis. After all, Barb was ultimately the one who decided to hire Bell, knowing her own finances. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 03:17, 14 August 2025 (EDT)
	:Rocky's the one who introduced Bell to Barb and suggested hiring Bell and Barb wholeheartedly went with it. Had Rocky not done that, Barb wouldn't have turned to him and hire him and blow away that cash. So yes she did unwittingly instigate the Financhu Crisis.[[User:Makuchi\|Makuchi]] ([[User talk:Makuchi\|talk]]) 11:04, 14 August 2025 (EDT)		:Rocky's the one who introduced Bell to Barb and suggested hiring Bell and Barb wholeheartedly went with it. Had Rocky not done that, Barb wouldn't have turned to him and hire him and blow away that cash. So yes she did unwittingly instigate the Financhu Crisis.[[User:Makuchi\|Makuchi]] ([[User talk:Makuchi\|talk]]) 11:04, 14 August 2025 (EDT)
			::The onus was still on Barb to decide if she could afford Bell. She could have asked for another recommendation. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level\|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level\|talk]]) 02:38, 15 August 2025 (EDT)

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	I sure hope there's a better reason for removing the irl photos from this and the [[Mary Lee Walsh]] articles besides "not needed". --[[User:T K 19\|T K 19]] 10:38, 12 December 2011 (PST)		I sure hope there's a better reason for removing the irl photos from this and the [[Mary Lee Walsh]] articles besides "not needed". --[[User:T K 19\|T K 19]] 10:38, 12 December 2011 (PST)
	:Really though, I don't think they're necessary to understand how they influence Chris. For fuck's sake, MLW could have pressed charges on Chris but made him get help and even let him back in. Rocky is no saint but she's one of the more sympathetic characters. Although I'm not a moralfag, I'd like to respect their privacy, especially for putting up with such a terrible person. Besides, this is a Wiki about Chris, not about anyone. Unless it's absolutely necessary to understanding Chris, I think we should leave their real-life identities out of it. [[User:Barry\|Barry]] 12:11, 12 December 2011 (PST)		:Really though, I don't think they're necessary to understand how they influence Chris. For fuck's sake, MLW could have pressed charges on Chris but made him get help and even let him back in. Rocky is no saint but she's one of the more sympathetic characters. Although I'm not a moralfag, I'd like to respect their privacy, especially for putting up with such a terrible person. Besides, this is a Wiki about Chris, not about anyone. Unless it's absolutely necessary to understanding Chris, I think we should leave their real-life identities out of it. [[User:Barry\|Barry]] 12:11, 12 December 2011 (PST)
			::Half the MLW article and the whole Rocky article are based around their irl identity, so hiding it is pointless. The photos were also taken from public sources (The Rocky one, anyway. Not sure what the source for the MLW picture is), so I fail to see how these pictures violate their privacy. If you were removing dox, which we don't have, I'd understand; but these pictures are harmless and relevant, so I say they be put back. --[[User:T K 19\|T K 19]] 12:49, 12 December 2011 (PST)