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4Macie: /* The Scale */

2011-01-19T04:50:50Z

The Scale

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	:What I was saying is that muscle weighs more than fat per unit volume. Thus, if you look at two people who has an arm diameter of Xcm, one made purely of fat and the other of muscle, the one of muscle weighs more. We know what Chris looks like, and if he had a higher muscle-to-fat ratio without changing his figure at all, he would weigh more. Even if you don't exercise, you still probably don't tire as quickly as Chris does (remember, STANDING is exercise to him, and he can't even lift a thin chair above his head), so you likely have a higher muscle-to-fat ratio than he does. Even with this, I'm still pretty sure the scale is off somehow, but unless there's irrefutable proof of this, writing it into the article would just disseminate potetially false information. There's already an issue with people using the CWCki as a source for other CWCki articles (a problem common to all wikis, as far as I'm aware) that spirals from small pieces of misinformation into large misunderstandings, and I'd rather attenuate the problem. [[User:Freecell\|Freecell]] 19:08, 18 January 2011 (PST)		:What I was saying is that muscle weighs more than fat per unit volume. Thus, if you look at two people who has an arm diameter of Xcm, one made purely of fat and the other of muscle, the one of muscle weighs more. We know what Chris looks like, and if he had a higher muscle-to-fat ratio without changing his figure at all, he would weigh more. Even if you don't exercise, you still probably don't tire as quickly as Chris does (remember, STANDING is exercise to him, and he can't even lift a thin chair above his head), so you likely have a higher muscle-to-fat ratio than he does. Even with this, I'm still pretty sure the scale is off somehow, but unless there's irrefutable proof of this, writing it into the article would just disseminate potetially false information. There's already an issue with people using the CWCki as a source for other CWCki articles (a problem common to all wikis, as far as I'm aware) that spirals from small pieces of misinformation into large misunderstandings, and I'd rather attenuate the problem. [[User:Freecell\|Freecell]] 19:08, 18 January 2011 (PST)
	::Chris's last check-up was on July 19 (see [[Jackie E-mails 4]]). He weighed in at 210 on that day (see [[Jackie Chat 8]]), and I think it's safe to assume that the doctor's scale wasn't rigged. Three months later, according to this video, he's gained 6 more pounds. After hours of studying and calculations, I have deduced that these numbers are way too consistent for him to be lying about it, and this video is indeed True and Honest. HOPE THIS HELPS --[[User:Acousticvirgin\|Acousticvirgin]] 19:36, 18 January 2011 (PST)		::Chris's last check-up was on July 19 (see [[Jackie E-mails 4]]). He weighed in at 210 on that day (see [[Jackie Chat 8]]), and I think it's safe to assume that the doctor's scale wasn't rigged. Three months later, according to this video, he's gained 6 more pounds. After hours of studying and calculations, I have deduced that these numbers are way too consistent for him to be lying about it, and this video is indeed True and Honest. HOPE THIS HELPS --[[User:Acousticvirgin\|Acousticvirgin]] 19:36, 18 January 2011 (PST)
			::: Thank you kindly everyone for your inputs and for your calculations and citations Acousticvirgin. For some reason, I feel kinda sad that my hypothesis for a failed scale was inaccurate... but I'm glad it has been somewhat settled. <3 --[[User:4Macie\|4Macie]] 20:50, 18 January 2011 (PST)

Acousticvirgin at 03:36, 19 January 2011

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	:What I was saying is that muscle weighs more than fat per unit volume. Thus, if you look at two people who has an arm diameter of Xcm, one made purely of fat and the other of muscle, the one of muscle weighs more. We know what Chris looks like, and if he had a higher muscle-to-fat ratio without changing his figure at all, he would weigh more. Even if you don't exercise, you still probably don't tire as quickly as Chris does (remember, STANDING is exercise to him, and he can't even lift a thin chair above his head), so you likely have a higher muscle-to-fat ratio than he does. Even with this, I'm still pretty sure the scale is off somehow, but unless there's irrefutable proof of this, writing it into the article would just disseminate potetially false information. There's already an issue with people using the CWCki as a source for other CWCki articles (a problem common to all wikis, as far as I'm aware) that spirals from small pieces of misinformation into large misunderstandings, and I'd rather attenuate the problem. [[User:Freecell\|Freecell]] 19:08, 18 January 2011 (PST)		:What I was saying is that muscle weighs more than fat per unit volume. Thus, if you look at two people who has an arm diameter of Xcm, one made purely of fat and the other of muscle, the one of muscle weighs more. We know what Chris looks like, and if he had a higher muscle-to-fat ratio without changing his figure at all, he would weigh more. Even if you don't exercise, you still probably don't tire as quickly as Chris does (remember, STANDING is exercise to him, and he can't even lift a thin chair above his head), so you likely have a higher muscle-to-fat ratio than he does. Even with this, I'm still pretty sure the scale is off somehow, but unless there's irrefutable proof of this, writing it into the article would just disseminate potetially false information. There's already an issue with people using the CWCki as a source for other CWCki articles (a problem common to all wikis, as far as I'm aware) that spirals from small pieces of misinformation into large misunderstandings, and I'd rather attenuate the problem. [[User:Freecell\|Freecell]] 19:08, 18 January 2011 (PST)
			::Chris's last check-up was on July 19 (see [[Jackie E-mails 4]]). He weighed in at 210 on that day (see [[Jackie Chat 8]]), and I think it's safe to assume that the doctor's scale wasn't rigged. Three months later, according to this video, he's gained 6 more pounds. After hours of studying and calculations, I have deduced that these numbers are way too consistent for him to be lying about it, and this video is indeed True and Honest. HOPE THIS HELPS --[[User:Acousticvirgin\|Acousticvirgin]] 19:36, 18 January 2011 (PST)

Freecell at 03:09, 19 January 2011

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	Also muscle does not weigh more than fat, muscle is denser than fat. It's the same as a pound of feather weighs as much as a pound of lead, hurr durr.		Also muscle does not weigh more than fat, muscle is denser than fat. It's the same as a pound of feather weighs as much as a pound of lead, hurr durr.
	[[User:Theiselybros\|Theiselybros]] 18:38, 18 January 2011 (PST)		[[User:Theiselybros\|Theiselybros]] 18:38, 18 January 2011 (PST)
	:What I was saying is that muscle weighs more than fat per unit volume. Thus, if you look at two people who has an arm diameter of Xcm, one made purely of fat and the other of muscle, the one of muscle weighs more. We know what Chris looks like, and if he had a higher muscle-to-fat ratio without changing his figure at all, he would weigh more. Even if you don't exercise, you still probably don't tire as quickly as Chris does (remember, STANDING is exercise to him, ad he can't even lift a thin chair above his head), so you likely have a higher muscle-to-fat ratio than he does. Even with this, I'm still pretty sure the scale is off somehow, but unless there's irrefutable proof of this, writing it into the article would just disseminate potetially false information. There's already an issue with people using the CWCki as a source for other CWCki articles (a problem common to all wikis, as far as I'm aware) that spirals from small pieces of misinformation into large misunderstandings, and I'd rather attenuate the problem [[User:Freecell\|Freecell]] 19:08, 18 January 2011 (PST)		:What I was saying is that muscle weighs more than fat per unit volume. Thus, if you look at two people who has an arm diameter of Xcm, one made purely of fat and the other of muscle, the one of muscle weighs more. We know what Chris looks like, and if he had a higher muscle-to-fat ratio without changing his figure at all, he would weigh more. Even if you don't exercise, you still probably don't tire as quickly as Chris does (remember, STANDING is exercise to him, and he can't even lift a thin chair above his head), so you likely have a higher muscle-to-fat ratio than he does. Even with this, I'm still pretty sure the scale is off somehow, but unless there's irrefutable proof of this, writing it into the article would just disseminate potetially false information. There's already an issue with people using the CWCki as a source for other CWCki articles (a problem common to all wikis, as far as I'm aware) that spirals from small pieces of misinformation into large misunderstandings, and I'd rather attenuate the problem. [[User:Freecell\|Freecell]] 19:08, 18 January 2011 (PST)

Freecell at 03:08, 19 January 2011

2011-01-19T03:08:14Z

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	Also muscle does not weigh more than fat, muscle is denser than fat. It's the same as a pound of feather weighs as much as a pound of lead, hurr durr.		Also muscle does not weigh more than fat, muscle is denser than fat. It's the same as a pound of feather weighs as much as a pound of lead, hurr durr.
	[[User:Theiselybros\|Theiselybros]] 18:38, 18 January 2011 (PST)		[[User:Theiselybros\|Theiselybros]] 18:38, 18 January 2011 (PST)
			:What I was saying is that muscle weighs more than fat per unit volume. Thus, if you look at two people who has an arm diameter of Xcm, one made purely of fat and the other of muscle, the one of muscle weighs more. We know what Chris looks like, and if he had a higher muscle-to-fat ratio without changing his figure at all, he would weigh more. Even if you don't exercise, you still probably don't tire as quickly as Chris does (remember, STANDING is exercise to him, ad he can't even lift a thin chair above his head), so you likely have a higher muscle-to-fat ratio than he does. Even with this, I'm still pretty sure the scale is off somehow, but unless there's irrefutable proof of this, writing it into the article would just disseminate potetially false information. There's already an issue with people using the CWCki as a source for other CWCki articles (a problem common to all wikis, as far as I'm aware) that spirals from small pieces of misinformation into large misunderstandings, and I'd rather attenuate the problem [[User:Freecell\|Freecell]] 19:08, 18 January 2011 (PST)

Theiselybros: /* The Scale */

2011-01-19T02:38:14Z

The Scale

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	I'm pretty damn sure Chris cheated. I know he's not smart, but he isn't too stupid to figure out that he can roll the dial for those types of scales back. I'm 220 and 5'8", never workout, and my bitch tits are not even close to being as big as his, nor does my stomach hang over my belt line. For someone as fat and dumpy looking as Chris, he has to be 240, and that's giving him a break.		I'm pretty damn sure Chris cheated. I know he's not smart, but he isn't too stupid to figure out that he can roll the dial for those types of scales back. I'm 220 and 5'8", never workout, and my bitch tits are not even close to being as big as his, nor does my stomach hang over my belt line. For someone as fat and dumpy looking as Chris, he has to be 240, and that's giving him a break.
	[[User:Theiselybros\|Theiselybros]] 18:35, 18 January 2011 (PST)		Also muscle does not weigh more than fat, muscle is denser than fat. It's the same as a pound of feather weighs as much as a pound of lead, hurr durr.
			[[User:Theiselybros\|Theiselybros]] 18:38, 18 January 2011 (PST)

Theiselybros: /* The Scale */

2011-01-19T02:35:15Z

The Scale

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	Would anyone know if standing on it wrong (ie: him bending over and having some parts of his feet off of the scale) would change the weight outcome in anyway, either less or more weight? This scale does look ancient and could be in dire need of recalibration... Should that maybe be a "NOTE" that should be added to the page? That this outcome may be off because of 1) type of scale 2) oldness of scale 3) wrong posture and position of Chris on scale? Or if anyone can disprove these facts, like saying that bending over wouldn't change the weight outcome or something... maybe just make a note on the page so that people know just how accurate this video could be? (Though I do think the comments about BMI would be helpful to point out on the Page considering people probably watch the video and think WTF? Only 216lbs?! or something along those lines) Just a thought, feel free to agree or disagree. <3 --[[User:4Macie\|4Macie]] 18:12, 1 January 2011 (PST)		Would anyone know if standing on it wrong (ie: him bending over and having some parts of his feet off of the scale) would change the weight outcome in anyway, either less or more weight? This scale does look ancient and could be in dire need of recalibration... Should that maybe be a "NOTE" that should be added to the page? That this outcome may be off because of 1) type of scale 2) oldness of scale 3) wrong posture and position of Chris on scale? Or if anyone can disprove these facts, like saying that bending over wouldn't change the weight outcome or something... maybe just make a note on the page so that people know just how accurate this video could be? (Though I do think the comments about BMI would be helpful to point out on the Page considering people probably watch the video and think WTF? Only 216lbs?! or something along those lines) Just a thought, feel free to agree or disagree. <3 --[[User:4Macie\|4Macie]] 18:12, 1 January 2011 (PST)
	:Well bending over wouldn't because it wouldn't change his mass or displace the force on the scale. Most people think it's broken, but there's no real evidence of that. It could be that somehow, Chris actually weighed that little at the time. Don't forget that muscle weighs more than fat, so he probably weighs less per unit volume than most people. [[User:Freecell\|Freecell]] 10:26, 2 January 2011 (PST)		:Well bending over wouldn't because it wouldn't change his mass or displace the force on the scale. Most people think it's broken, but there's no real evidence of that. It could be that somehow, Chris actually weighed that little at the time. Don't forget that muscle weighs more than fat, so he probably weighs less per unit volume than most people. [[User:Freecell\|Freecell]] 10:26, 2 January 2011 (PST)

			I'm pretty damn sure Chris cheated. I know he's not smart, but he isn't too stupid to figure out that he can roll the dial for those types of scales back. I'm 220 and 5'8", never workout, and my bitch tits are not even close to being as big as his, nor does my stomach hang over my belt line. For someone as fat and dumpy looking as Chris, he has to be 240, and that's giving him a break.
			[[User:Theiselybros\|Theiselybros]] 18:35, 18 January 2011 (PST)

Freecell at 18:26, 2 January 2011

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	Would anyone know if standing on it wrong (ie: him bending over and having some parts of his feet off of the scale) would change the weight outcome in anyway, either less or more weight? This scale does look ancient and could be in dire need of recalibration... Should that maybe be a "NOTE" that should be added to the page? That this outcome may be off because of 1) type of scale 2) oldness of scale 3) wrong posture and position of Chris on scale? Or if anyone can disprove these facts, like saying that bending over wouldn't change the weight outcome or something... maybe just make a note on the page so that people know just how accurate this video could be? (Though I do think the comments about BMI would be helpful to point out on the Page considering people probably watch the video and think WTF? Only 216lbs?! or something along those lines) Just a thought, feel free to agree or disagree. <3 --[[User:4Macie\|4Macie]] 18:12, 1 January 2011 (PST)		Would anyone know if standing on it wrong (ie: him bending over and having some parts of his feet off of the scale) would change the weight outcome in anyway, either less or more weight? This scale does look ancient and could be in dire need of recalibration... Should that maybe be a "NOTE" that should be added to the page? That this outcome may be off because of 1) type of scale 2) oldness of scale 3) wrong posture and position of Chris on scale? Or if anyone can disprove these facts, like saying that bending over wouldn't change the weight outcome or something... maybe just make a note on the page so that people know just how accurate this video could be? (Though I do think the comments about BMI would be helpful to point out on the Page considering people probably watch the video and think WTF? Only 216lbs?! or something along those lines) Just a thought, feel free to agree or disagree. <3 --[[User:4Macie\|4Macie]] 18:12, 1 January 2011 (PST)
			:Well bending over wouldn't because it wouldn't change his mass or displace the force on the scale. Most people think it's broken, but there's no real evidence of that. It could be that somehow, Chris actually weighed that little at the time. Don't forget that muscle weighs more than fat, so he probably weighs less per unit volume than most people. [[User:Freecell\|Freecell]] 10:26, 2 January 2011 (PST)

4Macie: /* The Scale */ new section

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The Scale: new section

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	* For the record, these kinds of bathroom scales are horribly inaccurate, and given the looks of it it's a very old model. I have a pretty old scale like that at home, and it's often off by 10-20 pounds. [[User:KingoftheJuice\|KingoftheJuice]] 22:12, 26 October 2010 (PDT)		* For the record, these kinds of bathroom scales are horribly inaccurate, and given the looks of it it's a very old model. I have a pretty old scale like that at home, and it's often off by 10-20 pounds. [[User:KingoftheJuice\|KingoftheJuice]] 22:12, 26 October 2010 (PDT)
	:More importantly BMI and weight are near worthless from a medical standpoint: they don't tell anything about what the weight is made of or if the fat is visceral or not.<small>(Obviously a 125w27/h36 is totally different from a 125w36/h27)</small>... If we had his waist and hip size we could actually figure out something. Lacking that, going by his given torso size, appearance, and comparable people, something around 37% fat is a reasonable guess. This means even though his body weight doesn’t sound terible, his organs are being strangled by visceral fat, a likely reason as to why a GP would put a 20-something on Lipitor<small>(he went off it bc the fat aggravated liver trouble it causes)</small>.-[[User:Kei\|Kei]] 18:04, 27 October 2010 (PDT)		:More importantly BMI and weight are near worthless from a medical standpoint: they don't tell anything about what the weight is made of or if the fat is visceral or not.<small>(Obviously a 125w27/h36 is totally different from a 125w36/h27)</small>... If we had his waist and hip size we could actually figure out something. Lacking that, going by his given torso size, appearance, and comparable people, something around 37% fat is a reasonable guess. This means even though his body weight doesn’t sound terible, his organs are being strangled by visceral fat, a likely reason as to why a GP would put a 20-something on Lipitor<small>(he went off it bc the fat aggravated liver trouble it causes)</small>.-[[User:Kei\|Kei]] 18:04, 27 October 2010 (PDT)

			== The Scale ==

			Would anyone know if standing on it wrong (ie: him bending over and having some parts of his feet off of the scale) would change the weight outcome in anyway, either less or more weight? This scale does look ancient and could be in dire need of recalibration... Should that maybe be a "NOTE" that should be added to the page? That this outcome may be off because of 1) type of scale 2) oldness of scale 3) wrong posture and position of Chris on scale? Or if anyone can disprove these facts, like saying that bending over wouldn't change the weight outcome or something... maybe just make a note on the page so that people know just how accurate this video could be? (Though I do think the comments about BMI would be helpful to point out on the Page considering people probably watch the video and think WTF? Only 216lbs?! or something along those lines) Just a thought, feel free to agree or disagree. <3 --[[User:4Macie\|4Macie]] 18:12, 1 January 2011 (PST)

Kei: Moar TLDR pseudomedicine

2010-10-28T01:04:48Z

Moar TLDR pseudomedicine

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	* See, this is why I can't watch programs like 'the biggest loser' without rolling my eyes and switching channels while muttering 'oh for crying out loud'. Since I started to work out a pair of months ago, I ''gained'' nearly 4 kg AND went down a size, and I'm a girl. If I can put on muscle like this, much more can a guy with half the effort. Chris has his muscles so atrophied that it is no wonder the scale shows so little. TLDR he's not faking it, but has a low weight for all the wrong reasons. - [[User:LNHill\|LNHill]] 18:27, 26 October 2010 (PDT)		* See, this is why I can't watch programs like 'the biggest loser' without rolling my eyes and switching channels while muttering 'oh for crying out loud'. Since I started to work out a pair of months ago, I ''gained'' nearly 4 kg AND went down a size, and I'm a girl. If I can put on muscle like this, much more can a guy with half the effort. Chris has his muscles so atrophied that it is no wonder the scale shows so little. TLDR he's not faking it, but has a low weight for all the wrong reasons. - [[User:LNHill\|LNHill]] 18:27, 26 October 2010 (PDT)
	* For the record, these kinds of bathroom scales are horribly inaccurate, and given the looks of it it's a very old model. I have a pretty old scale like that at home, and it's often off by 10-20 pounds. [[User:KingoftheJuice\|KingoftheJuice]] 22:12, 26 October 2010 (PDT)		* For the record, these kinds of bathroom scales are horribly inaccurate, and given the looks of it it's a very old model. I have a pretty old scale like that at home, and it's often off by 10-20 pounds. [[User:KingoftheJuice\|KingoftheJuice]] 22:12, 26 October 2010 (PDT)
			:More importantly BMI and weight are near worthless from a medical standpoint: they don't tell anything about what the weight is made of or if the fat is visceral or not.<small>(Obviously a 125w27/h36 is totally different from a 125w36/h27)</small>... If we had his waist and hip size we could actually figure out something. Lacking that, going by his given torso size, appearance, and comparable people, something around 37% fat is a reasonable guess. This means even though his body weight doesn’t sound terible, his organs are being strangled by visceral fat, a likely reason as to why a GP would put a 20-something on Lipitor<small>(he went off it bc the fat aggravated liver trouble it causes)</small>.-[[User:Kei\|Kei]] 18:04, 27 October 2010 (PDT)

KingoftheJuice at 05:12, 27 October 2010

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	* God damn, this scared me for a minute. I way nearly twenty stone and yet I don't even look as fat as Chris does. :\| --[[User:Black Pickle\|Black Pickle]] 15:49, 26 October 2010 (PDT)		* God damn, this scared me for a minute. I way nearly twenty stone and yet I don't even look as fat as Chris does. :\| --[[User:Black Pickle\|Black Pickle]] 15:49, 26 October 2010 (PDT)
	* See, this is why I can't watch programs like 'the biggest loser' without rolling my eyes and switching channels while muttering 'oh for crying out loud'. Since I started to work out a pair of months ago, I ''gained'' nearly 4 kg AND went down a size, and I'm a girl. If I can put on muscle like this, much more can a guy with half the effort. Chris has his muscles so atrophied that it is no wonder the scale shows so little. TLDR he's not faking it, but has a low weight for all the wrong reasons. - [[User:LNHill\|LNHill]] 18:27, 26 October 2010 (PDT)		* See, this is why I can't watch programs like 'the biggest loser' without rolling my eyes and switching channels while muttering 'oh for crying out loud'. Since I started to work out a pair of months ago, I ''gained'' nearly 4 kg AND went down a size, and I'm a girl. If I can put on muscle like this, much more can a guy with half the effort. Chris has his muscles so atrophied that it is no wonder the scale shows so little. TLDR he's not faking it, but has a low weight for all the wrong reasons. - [[User:LNHill\|LNHill]] 18:27, 26 October 2010 (PDT)
	* For the record, these kinds of bathroom scales are horribly inaccurate, and given the looks of it it's a very old model. I have a pretty old scale like that at home, and it's often off by 10-20 pounds.		* For the record, these kinds of bathroom scales are horribly inaccurate, and given the looks of it it's a very old model. I have a pretty old scale like that at home, and it's often off by 10-20 pounds. [[User:KingoftheJuice\|KingoftheJuice]] 22:12, 26 October 2010 (PDT)

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	:What I was saying is that muscle weighs more than fat per unit volume. Thus, if you look at two people who has an arm diameter of Xcm, one made purely of fat and the other of muscle, the one of muscle weighs more. We know what Chris looks like, and if he had a higher muscle-to-fat ratio without changing his figure at all, he would weigh more. Even if you don't exercise, you still probably don't tire as quickly as Chris does (remember, STANDING is exercise to him, and he can't even lift a thin chair above his head), so you likely have a higher muscle-to-fat ratio than he does. Even with this, I'm still pretty sure the scale is off somehow, but unless there's irrefutable proof of this, writing it into the article would just disseminate potetially false information. There's already an issue with people using the CWCki as a source for other CWCki articles (a problem common to all wikis, as far as I'm aware) that spirals from small pieces of misinformation into large misunderstandings, and I'd rather attenuate the problem. [[User:Freecell\|Freecell]] 19:08, 18 January 2011 (PST)		:What I was saying is that muscle weighs more than fat per unit volume. Thus, if you look at two people who has an arm diameter of Xcm, one made purely of fat and the other of muscle, the one of muscle weighs more. We know what Chris looks like, and if he had a higher muscle-to-fat ratio without changing his figure at all, he would weigh more. Even if you don't exercise, you still probably don't tire as quickly as Chris does (remember, STANDING is exercise to him, and he can't even lift a thin chair above his head), so you likely have a higher muscle-to-fat ratio than he does. Even with this, I'm still pretty sure the scale is off somehow, but unless there's irrefutable proof of this, writing it into the article would just disseminate potetially false information. There's already an issue with people using the CWCki as a source for other CWCki articles (a problem common to all wikis, as far as I'm aware) that spirals from small pieces of misinformation into large misunderstandings, and I'd rather attenuate the problem. [[User:Freecell\|Freecell]] 19:08, 18 January 2011 (PST)
	::Chris's last check-up was on July 19 (see [[Jackie E-mails 4]]). He weighed in at 210 on that day (see [[Jackie Chat 8]]), and I think it's safe to assume that the doctor's scale wasn't rigged. Three months later, according to this video, he's gained 6 more pounds. After hours of studying and calculations, I have deduced that these numbers are way too consistent for him to be lying about it, and this video is indeed True and Honest. HOPE THIS HELPS --[[User:Acousticvirgin\|Acousticvirgin]] 19:36, 18 January 2011 (PST)		::Chris's last check-up was on July 19 (see [[Jackie E-mails 4]]). He weighed in at 210 on that day (see [[Jackie Chat 8]]), and I think it's safe to assume that the doctor's scale wasn't rigged. Three months later, according to this video, he's gained 6 more pounds. After hours of studying and calculations, I have deduced that these numbers are way too consistent for him to be lying about it, and this video is indeed True and Honest. HOPE THIS HELPS --[[User:Acousticvirgin\|Acousticvirgin]] 19:36, 18 January 2011 (PST)
			::: Thank you kindly everyone for your inputs and for your calculations and citations Acousticvirgin. For some reason, I feel kinda sad that my hypothesis for a failed scale was inaccurate... but I'm glad it has been somewhat settled. <3 --[[User:4Macie\|4Macie]] 20:50, 18 January 2011 (PST)

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	:What I was saying is that muscle weighs more than fat per unit volume. Thus, if you look at two people who has an arm diameter of Xcm, one made purely of fat and the other of muscle, the one of muscle weighs more. We know what Chris looks like, and if he had a higher muscle-to-fat ratio without changing his figure at all, he would weigh more. Even if you don't exercise, you still probably don't tire as quickly as Chris does (remember, STANDING is exercise to him, and he can't even lift a thin chair above his head), so you likely have a higher muscle-to-fat ratio than he does. Even with this, I'm still pretty sure the scale is off somehow, but unless there's irrefutable proof of this, writing it into the article would just disseminate potetially false information. There's already an issue with people using the CWCki as a source for other CWCki articles (a problem common to all wikis, as far as I'm aware) that spirals from small pieces of misinformation into large misunderstandings, and I'd rather attenuate the problem. [[User:Freecell\|Freecell]] 19:08, 18 January 2011 (PST)		:What I was saying is that muscle weighs more than fat per unit volume. Thus, if you look at two people who has an arm diameter of Xcm, one made purely of fat and the other of muscle, the one of muscle weighs more. We know what Chris looks like, and if he had a higher muscle-to-fat ratio without changing his figure at all, he would weigh more. Even if you don't exercise, you still probably don't tire as quickly as Chris does (remember, STANDING is exercise to him, and he can't even lift a thin chair above his head), so you likely have a higher muscle-to-fat ratio than he does. Even with this, I'm still pretty sure the scale is off somehow, but unless there's irrefutable proof of this, writing it into the article would just disseminate potetially false information. There's already an issue with people using the CWCki as a source for other CWCki articles (a problem common to all wikis, as far as I'm aware) that spirals from small pieces of misinformation into large misunderstandings, and I'd rather attenuate the problem. [[User:Freecell\|Freecell]] 19:08, 18 January 2011 (PST)
			::Chris's last check-up was on July 19 (see [[Jackie E-mails 4]]). He weighed in at 210 on that day (see [[Jackie Chat 8]]), and I think it's safe to assume that the doctor's scale wasn't rigged. Three months later, according to this video, he's gained 6 more pounds. After hours of studying and calculations, I have deduced that these numbers are way too consistent for him to be lying about it, and this video is indeed True and Honest. HOPE THIS HELPS --[[User:Acousticvirgin\|Acousticvirgin]] 19:36, 18 January 2011 (PST)

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	* See, this is why I can't watch programs like 'the biggest loser' without rolling my eyes and switching channels while muttering 'oh for crying out loud'. Since I started to work out a pair of months ago, I ''gained'' nearly 4 kg AND went down a size, and I'm a girl. If I can put on muscle like this, much more can a guy with half the effort. Chris has his muscles so atrophied that it is no wonder the scale shows so little. TLDR he's not faking it, but has a low weight for all the wrong reasons. - [[User:LNHill\|LNHill]] 18:27, 26 October 2010 (PDT)		* See, this is why I can't watch programs like 'the biggest loser' without rolling my eyes and switching channels while muttering 'oh for crying out loud'. Since I started to work out a pair of months ago, I ''gained'' nearly 4 kg AND went down a size, and I'm a girl. If I can put on muscle like this, much more can a guy with half the effort. Chris has his muscles so atrophied that it is no wonder the scale shows so little. TLDR he's not faking it, but has a low weight for all the wrong reasons. - [[User:LNHill\|LNHill]] 18:27, 26 October 2010 (PDT)
	* For the record, these kinds of bathroom scales are horribly inaccurate, and given the looks of it it's a very old model. I have a pretty old scale like that at home, and it's often off by 10-20 pounds. [[User:KingoftheJuice\|KingoftheJuice]] 22:12, 26 October 2010 (PDT)		* For the record, these kinds of bathroom scales are horribly inaccurate, and given the looks of it it's a very old model. I have a pretty old scale like that at home, and it's often off by 10-20 pounds. [[User:KingoftheJuice\|KingoftheJuice]] 22:12, 26 October 2010 (PDT)
			:More importantly BMI and weight are near worthless from a medical standpoint: they don't tell anything about what the weight is made of or if the fat is visceral or not.<small>(Obviously a 125w27/h36 is totally different from a 125w36/h27)</small>... If we had his waist and hip size we could actually figure out something. Lacking that, going by his given torso size, appearance, and comparable people, something around 37% fat is a reasonable guess. This means even though his body weight doesn’t sound terible, his organs are being strangled by visceral fat, a likely reason as to why a GP would put a 20-something on Lipitor<small>(he went off it bc the fat aggravated liver trouble it causes)</small>.-[[User:Kei\|Kei]] 18:04, 27 October 2010 (PDT)