Template talk:Sweethearts - Revision history

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	I don't think that we should be counting people like Sarah Hammer, Megan and the Wallflower as sweethearts. Its been well established by now that none of them ever had any interest in Chris and that any 'feelings' were completely one sided. I also think that sex toys should be kept seperate from the main group. I've made some changes anyway. If you don't like them then you can always revert it. --[[User:Edward\|Edward]] 18:56, 18 May 2010 (UTC)		I don't think that we should be counting people like Sarah Hammer, Megan and the Wallflower as sweethearts. Its been well established by now that none of them ever had any interest in Chris and that any 'feelings' were completely one sided. I also think that sex toys should be kept seperate from the main group. I've made some changes anyway. If you don't like them then you can always revert it. --[[User:Edward\|Edward]] 18:56, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

			== Cleaned up ==

			Now need to be put in chronological order. --[[User:Sonijew is back\|Sonijew is back]] 03:27, 14 September 2010 (PDT)

MoarLurk at 02:41, 18 July 2010

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	Well played, whoever did that. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 07:33, 10 December 2009 (CET)		Well played, whoever did that. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 07:33, 10 December 2009 (CET)
	*Thnx :) --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 09:52, 16 December 2009 (CET)		*Thnx :) --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 09:52, 16 December 2009 (CET)
			*While Rosie Palms is nice, I wonder if "The Playstation 3" would be more accurate.--[[User:MoarLurk\|MoarLurk]] 02:41, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
	==Critique/To do==		==Critique/To do==
	This is a nice template. It's better than what it was, and the color scheme is nice. But I feel that the previous format made a bit more sense as it limited to sweethearts. Yeah, there's only a few but at least it was restricted to sweethearts. Here, gal pals and the like are lumped together with sweethearts. Furthermore, it really doesn't do a good job differentiating between the two. There's a "Pre troll" and "Troll era" but it really doesn't say if they're sweethearts or not and that's important - Kellie Andes wasn't a sweetheart, she was a [[gal pal]]. The nature of Chris's relationship with Kellie was different than that of, say, Ivy. It's also fooling to say that Caitlin, a crush Chris had for a day, is in the same camp as Julie whom he spoke to for three months or so.		This is a nice template. It's better than what it was, and the color scheme is nice. But I feel that the previous format made a bit more sense as it limited to sweethearts. Yeah, there's only a few but at least it was restricted to sweethearts. Here, gal pals and the like are lumped together with sweethearts. Furthermore, it really doesn't do a good job differentiating between the two. There's a "Pre troll" and "Troll era" but it really doesn't say if they're sweethearts or not and that's important - Kellie Andes wasn't a sweetheart, she was a [[gal pal]]. The nature of Chris's relationship with Kellie was different than that of, say, Ivy. It's also fooling to say that Caitlin, a crush Chris had for a day, is in the same camp as Julie whom he spoke to for three months or so.

Edward at 18:56, 18 May 2010

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	:*I really don't think putting it in terms of emotions is the right way of differentiating between a sweetheart and a crush. In a general sense, a [[Wikipedia:puppy love\|crush]] is sorta just an infatuation and not really non-serious, sometimes unrequited. Chris had a crush on that Laura girl - it wasn't really serious, emotional connection but Chris may have looked at her and think "Gosh, she's purdy and nice" and wanted to be with her without really having a deeper connection. Meanwhile, a sweetheart implies there's a consensual relationship between the two - Chris's relationships tend to be one sided, with the woman being dominant, but nonetheless consensual. Kacey is sorta fuzzy because she was sorta between a crush, gal pal, and sweetheart. The bolding thing really is sorta confusing since there's no clear rationale why some are bolded and some aren't. Anyways, until we can measure Chris's heart level, I'd say this is the best approach. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 14:43, 22 December 2009 (CET)		:*I really don't think putting it in terms of emotions is the right way of differentiating between a sweetheart and a crush. In a general sense, a [[Wikipedia:puppy love\|crush]] is sorta just an infatuation and not really non-serious, sometimes unrequited. Chris had a crush on that Laura girl - it wasn't really serious, emotional connection but Chris may have looked at her and think "Gosh, she's purdy and nice" and wanted to be with her without really having a deeper connection. Meanwhile, a sweetheart implies there's a consensual relationship between the two - Chris's relationships tend to be one sided, with the woman being dominant, but nonetheless consensual. Kacey is sorta fuzzy because she was sorta between a crush, gal pal, and sweetheart. The bolding thing really is sorta confusing since there's no clear rationale why some are bolded and some aren't. Anyways, until we can measure Chris's heart level, I'd say this is the best approach. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 14:43, 22 December 2009 (CET)
	::*Okay, I get it. But... "consensual"??? We're still talking about Chris? :) Anyways, lookit the new version - I changed some things since the last time. --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 14:49, 22 December 2009 (CET)		::*Okay, I get it. But... "consensual"??? We're still talking about Chris? :) Anyways, lookit the new version - I changed some things since the last time. --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 14:49, 22 December 2009 (CET)

			I don't think that we should be counting people like Sarah Hammer, Megan and the Wallflower as sweethearts. Its been well established by now that none of them ever had any interest in Chris and that any 'feelings' were completely one sided. I also think that sex toys should be kept seperate from the main group. I've made some changes anyway. If you don't like them then you can always revert it. --[[User:Edward\|Edward]] 18:56, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

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VanKrause at 13:49, 22 December 2009

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	:*I really don't think putting it in terms of emotions is the right way of differentiating between a sweetheart and a crush. In a general sense, a [[Wikipedia:puppy love\|crush]] is sorta just an infatuation and not really non-serious, sometimes unrequited. Chris had a crush on that Laura girl - it wasn't really serious, emotional connection but Chris may have looked at her and think "Gosh, she's purdy and nice" and wanted to be with her without really having a deeper connection. Meanwhile, a sweetheart implies there's a consensual relationship between the two - Chris's relationships tend to be one sided, with the woman being dominant, but nonetheless consensual. Kacey is sorta fuzzy because she was sorta between a crush, gal pal, and sweetheart. The bolding thing really is sorta confusing since there's no clear rationale why some are bolded and some aren't. Anyways, until we can measure Chris's heart level, I'd say this is the best approach. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 14:43, 22 December 2009 (CET)		:*I really don't think putting it in terms of emotions is the right way of differentiating between a sweetheart and a crush. In a general sense, a [[Wikipedia:puppy love\|crush]] is sorta just an infatuation and not really non-serious, sometimes unrequited. Chris had a crush on that Laura girl - it wasn't really serious, emotional connection but Chris may have looked at her and think "Gosh, she's purdy and nice" and wanted to be with her without really having a deeper connection. Meanwhile, a sweetheart implies there's a consensual relationship between the two - Chris's relationships tend to be one sided, with the woman being dominant, but nonetheless consensual. Kacey is sorta fuzzy because she was sorta between a crush, gal pal, and sweetheart. The bolding thing really is sorta confusing since there's no clear rationale why some are bolded and some aren't. Anyways, until we can measure Chris's heart level, I'd say this is the best approach. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 14:43, 22 December 2009 (CET)
			::*Okay, I get it. But... "consensual"??? We're still talking about Chris? :) Anyways, lookit the new version - I changed some things since the last time. --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 14:49, 22 December 2009 (CET)

Champthom: /* Critique/To do */

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Critique/To do

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	*Always nice to hear constructive critique :) Thanks for your kind words regarding the color scheme. I feel we need more different-colored templates in our wiki - having that blue-gray hue all the time is too boring, imho. Anyway. As for sweetheart/crush... I understand what you mean, and I think such a distinction would be useful. However, maybe I'm too much of a newfag - what's the distinction between a "sweetheart" and a "crush", in Chris sense? Could you please link me to where such a distinction is described? I thought the distinction was the level of Chris's emotions concerning the girl. So, I put those with high "emotion levels" in '''bold''', while all the other girls he fancied were put in plain text. It was probably not easy for other users to understand what I meant, I agree. So, you suggest putting "sweethearts" in one list and "crushes" in another? Hmm, that might be the best solution. I'll do that, but before (as I said), I'd like to know more on how are they distinguished, so that I wouldn't make the same mistake this time. However, I feel that all these "crushes" should be not forgotten, as they also provide some level of understanding Chris and his way about women. --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 09:08, 22 December 2009 (CET)		*Always nice to hear constructive critique :) Thanks for your kind words regarding the color scheme. I feel we need more different-colored templates in our wiki - having that blue-gray hue all the time is too boring, imho. Anyway. As for sweetheart/crush... I understand what you mean, and I think such a distinction would be useful. However, maybe I'm too much of a newfag - what's the distinction between a "sweetheart" and a "crush", in Chris sense? Could you please link me to where such a distinction is described? I thought the distinction was the level of Chris's emotions concerning the girl. So, I put those with high "emotion levels" in '''bold''', while all the other girls he fancied were put in plain text. It was probably not easy for other users to understand what I meant, I agree. So, you suggest putting "sweethearts" in one list and "crushes" in another? Hmm, that might be the best solution. I'll do that, but before (as I said), I'd like to know more on how are they distinguished, so that I wouldn't make the same mistake this time. However, I feel that all these "crushes" should be not forgotten, as they also provide some level of understanding Chris and his way about women. --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 09:08, 22 December 2009 (CET)
	*Hey, I tried fixing it a bit - what do you think now? --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 14:40, 22 December 2009 (CET)		*Hey, I tried fixing it a bit - what do you think now? --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 14:40, 22 December 2009 (CET)

			:*I really don't think putting it in terms of emotions is the right way of differentiating between a sweetheart and a crush. In a general sense, a [[Wikipedia:puppy love\|crush]] is sorta just an infatuation and not really non-serious, sometimes unrequited. Chris had a crush on that Laura girl - it wasn't really serious, emotional connection but Chris may have looked at her and think "Gosh, she's purdy and nice" and wanted to be with her without really having a deeper connection. Meanwhile, a sweetheart implies there's a consensual relationship between the two - Chris's relationships tend to be one sided, with the woman being dominant, but nonetheless consensual. Kacey is sorta fuzzy because she was sorta between a crush, gal pal, and sweetheart. The bolding thing really is sorta confusing since there's no clear rationale why some are bolded and some aren't. Anyways, until we can measure Chris's heart level, I'd say this is the best approach. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 14:43, 22 December 2009 (CET)

VanKrause at 13:40, 22 December 2009

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	Finally, I really don't think Kimmi is so much a sweetheart but more of a sweetheart proxy - a means to an end for Chris, a way for him to "practice' for when he does lose his virginity. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 20:53, 21 December 2009 (CET)		Finally, I really don't think Kimmi is so much a sweetheart but more of a sweetheart proxy - a means to an end for Chris, a way for him to "practice' for when he does lose his virginity. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 20:53, 21 December 2009 (CET)
	*Always nice to hear constructive critique :) Thanks for your kind words regarding the color scheme. I feel we need more different-colored templates in our wiki - having that blue-gray hue all the time is too boring, imho. Anyway. As for sweetheart/crush... I understand what you mean, and I think such a distinction would be useful. However, maybe I'm too much of a newfag - what's the distinction between a "sweetheart" and a "crush", in Chris sense? Could you please link me to where such a distinction is described? I thought the distinction was the level of Chris's emotions concerning the girl. So, I put those with high "emotion levels" in '''bold''', while all the other girls he fancied were put in plain text. It was probably not easy for other users to understand what I meant, I agree. So, you suggest putting "sweethearts" in one list and "crushes" in another? Hmm, that might be the best solution. I'll do that, but before (as I said), I'd like to know more on how are they distinguished, so that I wouldn't make the same mistake this time. However, I feel that all these "crushes" should be not forgotten, as they also provide some level of understanding Chris and his way about women. --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 09:08, 22 December 2009 (CET)		*Always nice to hear constructive critique :) Thanks for your kind words regarding the color scheme. I feel we need more different-colored templates in our wiki - having that blue-gray hue all the time is too boring, imho. Anyway. As for sweetheart/crush... I understand what you mean, and I think such a distinction would be useful. However, maybe I'm too much of a newfag - what's the distinction between a "sweetheart" and a "crush", in Chris sense? Could you please link me to where such a distinction is described? I thought the distinction was the level of Chris's emotions concerning the girl. So, I put those with high "emotion levels" in '''bold''', while all the other girls he fancied were put in plain text. It was probably not easy for other users to understand what I meant, I agree. So, you suggest putting "sweethearts" in one list and "crushes" in another? Hmm, that might be the best solution. I'll do that, but before (as I said), I'd like to know more on how are they distinguished, so that I wouldn't make the same mistake this time. However, I feel that all these "crushes" should be not forgotten, as they also provide some level of understanding Chris and his way about women. --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 09:08, 22 December 2009 (CET)
			*Hey, I tried fixing it a bit - what do you think now? --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 14:40, 22 December 2009 (CET)

VanKrause at 13:31, 22 December 2009

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	Finally, I really don't think Kimmi is so much a sweetheart but more of a sweetheart proxy - a means to an end for Chris, a way for him to "practice' for when he does lose his virginity. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 20:53, 21 December 2009 (CET)		Finally, I really don't think Kimmi is so much a sweetheart but more of a sweetheart proxy - a means to an end for Chris, a way for him to "practice' for when he does lose his virginity. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 20:53, 21 December 2009 (CET)
	*Always nice to hear constructive critique :) Thanks for your kind words regarding the color scheme. I feel we need more different-colored templates in our wiki - having that blue-gray hue all the time is too boring, imho. Anyway. As for sweetheart/crush... I understand what you mean, and I think such a distinction would be useful. However, maybe I'm too much of a newfag - what's the distinction between a "sweetheart" and a "crush", in Chris sense? Could you please link me to where such a distinction is described? I thought the distinction was the level of Chris's emotions concerning the girl. So, I put those with high "emotion levels" in ''bold'', while all the other girls he fancied were put in plain text. It was probably not easy for other users to understand what I meant, I agree. So, you suggest putting "sweethearts" in one list and "crushes" in another? Hmm, that might be the best solution. I'll do that, but before (as I said), I'd like to know more on how are they distinguished, so that I wouldn't make the same mistake this time. However, I feel that all these "crushes" should be not forgotten, as they also provide some level of understanding Chris and his way about women. --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 09:08, 22 December 2009 (CET)		*Always nice to hear constructive critique :) Thanks for your kind words regarding the color scheme. I feel we need more different-colored templates in our wiki - having that blue-gray hue all the time is too boring, imho. Anyway. As for sweetheart/crush... I understand what you mean, and I think such a distinction would be useful. However, maybe I'm too much of a newfag - what's the distinction between a "sweetheart" and a "crush", in Chris sense? Could you please link me to where such a distinction is described? I thought the distinction was the level of Chris's emotions concerning the girl. So, I put those with high "emotion levels" in '''bold''', while all the other girls he fancied were put in plain text. It was probably not easy for other users to understand what I meant, I agree. So, you suggest putting "sweethearts" in one list and "crushes" in another? Hmm, that might be the best solution. I'll do that, but before (as I said), I'd like to know more on how are they distinguished, so that I wouldn't make the same mistake this time. However, I feel that all these "crushes" should be not forgotten, as they also provide some level of understanding Chris and his way about women. --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 09:08, 22 December 2009 (CET)

VanKrause at 08:08, 22 December 2009

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	Finally, I really don't think Kimmi is so much a sweetheart but more of a sweetheart proxy - a means to an end for Chris, a way for him to "practice' for when he does lose his virginity. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 20:53, 21 December 2009 (CET)		Finally, I really don't think Kimmi is so much a sweetheart but more of a sweetheart proxy - a means to an end for Chris, a way for him to "practice' for when he does lose his virginity. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 20:53, 21 December 2009 (CET)
			*Always nice to hear constructive critique :) Thanks for your kind words regarding the color scheme. I feel we need more different-colored templates in our wiki - having that blue-gray hue all the time is too boring, imho. Anyway. As for sweetheart/crush... I understand what you mean, and I think such a distinction would be useful. However, maybe I'm too much of a newfag - what's the distinction between a "sweetheart" and a "crush", in Chris sense? Could you please link me to where such a distinction is described? I thought the distinction was the level of Chris's emotions concerning the girl. So, I put those with high "emotion levels" in ''bold'', while all the other girls he fancied were put in plain text. It was probably not easy for other users to understand what I meant, I agree. So, you suggest putting "sweethearts" in one list and "crushes" in another? Hmm, that might be the best solution. I'll do that, but before (as I said), I'd like to know more on how are they distinguished, so that I wouldn't make the same mistake this time. However, I feel that all these "crushes" should be not forgotten, as they also provide some level of understanding Chris and his way about women. --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 09:08, 22 December 2009 (CET)

Champthom: /* Rosie Palms */

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Rosie Palms

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	Well played, whoever did that. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 07:33, 10 December 2009 (CET)		Well played, whoever did that. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 07:33, 10 December 2009 (CET)
	*Thnx :) --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 09:52, 16 December 2009 (CET)		*Thnx :) --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 09:52, 16 December 2009 (CET)

			==Critique/To do==
			This is a nice template. It's better than what it was, and the color scheme is nice. But I feel that the previous format made a bit more sense as it limited to sweethearts. Yeah, there's only a few but at least it was restricted to sweethearts. Here, gal pals and the like are lumped together with sweethearts. Furthermore, it really doesn't do a good job differentiating between the two. There's a "Pre troll" and "Troll era" but it really doesn't say if they're sweethearts or not and that's important - Kellie Andes wasn't a sweetheart, she was a [[gal pal]]. The nature of Chris's relationship with Kellie was different than that of, say, Ivy. It's also fooling to say that Caitlin, a crush Chris had for a day, is in the same camp as Julie whom he spoke to for three months or so.

			I think this needs to keep sorta the same color scheme but tweak the format to reflect the earlier versions of the template, focusing on sweethearts. It's okay to throw in gal pals but we need to make sure that gal pals are indeed gal pals. Also, maybe a category for crushes even.

			Finally, I really don't think Kimmi is so much a sweetheart but more of a sweetheart proxy - a means to an end for Chris, a way for him to "practice' for when he does lose his virginity. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 20:53, 21 December 2009 (CET)

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	:*I really don't think putting it in terms of emotions is the right way of differentiating between a sweetheart and a crush. In a general sense, a [[Wikipedia:puppy love\|crush]] is sorta just an infatuation and not really non-serious, sometimes unrequited. Chris had a crush on that Laura girl - it wasn't really serious, emotional connection but Chris may have looked at her and think "Gosh, she's purdy and nice" and wanted to be with her without really having a deeper connection. Meanwhile, a sweetheart implies there's a consensual relationship between the two - Chris's relationships tend to be one sided, with the woman being dominant, but nonetheless consensual. Kacey is sorta fuzzy because she was sorta between a crush, gal pal, and sweetheart. The bolding thing really is sorta confusing since there's no clear rationale why some are bolded and some aren't. Anyways, until we can measure Chris's heart level, I'd say this is the best approach. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 14:43, 22 December 2009 (CET)		:*I really don't think putting it in terms of emotions is the right way of differentiating between a sweetheart and a crush. In a general sense, a [[Wikipedia:puppy love\|crush]] is sorta just an infatuation and not really non-serious, sometimes unrequited. Chris had a crush on that Laura girl - it wasn't really serious, emotional connection but Chris may have looked at her and think "Gosh, she's purdy and nice" and wanted to be with her without really having a deeper connection. Meanwhile, a sweetheart implies there's a consensual relationship between the two - Chris's relationships tend to be one sided, with the woman being dominant, but nonetheless consensual. Kacey is sorta fuzzy because she was sorta between a crush, gal pal, and sweetheart. The bolding thing really is sorta confusing since there's no clear rationale why some are bolded and some aren't. Anyways, until we can measure Chris's heart level, I'd say this is the best approach. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 14:43, 22 December 2009 (CET)
	::*Okay, I get it. But... "consensual"??? We're still talking about Chris? :) Anyways, lookit the new version - I changed some things since the last time. --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 14:49, 22 December 2009 (CET)		::*Okay, I get it. But... "consensual"??? We're still talking about Chris? :) Anyways, lookit the new version - I changed some things since the last time. --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 14:49, 22 December 2009 (CET)

			I don't think that we should be counting people like Sarah Hammer, Megan and the Wallflower as sweethearts. Its been well established by now that none of them ever had any interest in Chris and that any 'feelings' were completely one sided. I also think that sex toys should be kept seperate from the main group. I've made some changes anyway. If you don't like them then you can always revert it. --[[User:Edward\|Edward]] 18:56, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

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	*Always nice to hear constructive critique :) Thanks for your kind words regarding the color scheme. I feel we need more different-colored templates in our wiki - having that blue-gray hue all the time is too boring, imho. Anyway. As for sweetheart/crush... I understand what you mean, and I think such a distinction would be useful. However, maybe I'm too much of a newfag - what's the distinction between a "sweetheart" and a "crush", in Chris sense? Could you please link me to where such a distinction is described? I thought the distinction was the level of Chris's emotions concerning the girl. So, I put those with high "emotion levels" in '''bold''', while all the other girls he fancied were put in plain text. It was probably not easy for other users to understand what I meant, I agree. So, you suggest putting "sweethearts" in one list and "crushes" in another? Hmm, that might be the best solution. I'll do that, but before (as I said), I'd like to know more on how are they distinguished, so that I wouldn't make the same mistake this time. However, I feel that all these "crushes" should be not forgotten, as they also provide some level of understanding Chris and his way about women. --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 09:08, 22 December 2009 (CET)		*Always nice to hear constructive critique :) Thanks for your kind words regarding the color scheme. I feel we need more different-colored templates in our wiki - having that blue-gray hue all the time is too boring, imho. Anyway. As for sweetheart/crush... I understand what you mean, and I think such a distinction would be useful. However, maybe I'm too much of a newfag - what's the distinction between a "sweetheart" and a "crush", in Chris sense? Could you please link me to where such a distinction is described? I thought the distinction was the level of Chris's emotions concerning the girl. So, I put those with high "emotion levels" in '''bold''', while all the other girls he fancied were put in plain text. It was probably not easy for other users to understand what I meant, I agree. So, you suggest putting "sweethearts" in one list and "crushes" in another? Hmm, that might be the best solution. I'll do that, but before (as I said), I'd like to know more on how are they distinguished, so that I wouldn't make the same mistake this time. However, I feel that all these "crushes" should be not forgotten, as they also provide some level of understanding Chris and his way about women. --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 09:08, 22 December 2009 (CET)
	*Hey, I tried fixing it a bit - what do you think now? --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 14:40, 22 December 2009 (CET)		*Hey, I tried fixing it a bit - what do you think now? --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 14:40, 22 December 2009 (CET)

			:*I really don't think putting it in terms of emotions is the right way of differentiating between a sweetheart and a crush. In a general sense, a [[Wikipedia:puppy love\|crush]] is sorta just an infatuation and not really non-serious, sometimes unrequited. Chris had a crush on that Laura girl - it wasn't really serious, emotional connection but Chris may have looked at her and think "Gosh, she's purdy and nice" and wanted to be with her without really having a deeper connection. Meanwhile, a sweetheart implies there's a consensual relationship between the two - Chris's relationships tend to be one sided, with the woman being dominant, but nonetheless consensual. Kacey is sorta fuzzy because she was sorta between a crush, gal pal, and sweetheart. The bolding thing really is sorta confusing since there's no clear rationale why some are bolded and some aren't. Anyways, until we can measure Chris's heart level, I'd say this is the best approach. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 14:43, 22 December 2009 (CET)

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	Finally, I really don't think Kimmi is so much a sweetheart but more of a sweetheart proxy - a means to an end for Chris, a way for him to "practice' for when he does lose his virginity. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 20:53, 21 December 2009 (CET)		Finally, I really don't think Kimmi is so much a sweetheart but more of a sweetheart proxy - a means to an end for Chris, a way for him to "practice' for when he does lose his virginity. --[[User:Champthom\|Champthom]] 20:53, 21 December 2009 (CET)
	*Always nice to hear constructive critique :) Thanks for your kind words regarding the color scheme. I feel we need more different-colored templates in our wiki - having that blue-gray hue all the time is too boring, imho. Anyway. As for sweetheart/crush... I understand what you mean, and I think such a distinction would be useful. However, maybe I'm too much of a newfag - what's the distinction between a "sweetheart" and a "crush", in Chris sense? Could you please link me to where such a distinction is described? I thought the distinction was the level of Chris's emotions concerning the girl. So, I put those with high "emotion levels" in '''bold''', while all the other girls he fancied were put in plain text. It was probably not easy for other users to understand what I meant, I agree. So, you suggest putting "sweethearts" in one list and "crushes" in another? Hmm, that might be the best solution. I'll do that, but before (as I said), I'd like to know more on how are they distinguished, so that I wouldn't make the same mistake this time. However, I feel that all these "crushes" should be not forgotten, as they also provide some level of understanding Chris and his way about women. --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 09:08, 22 December 2009 (CET)		*Always nice to hear constructive critique :) Thanks for your kind words regarding the color scheme. I feel we need more different-colored templates in our wiki - having that blue-gray hue all the time is too boring, imho. Anyway. As for sweetheart/crush... I understand what you mean, and I think such a distinction would be useful. However, maybe I'm too much of a newfag - what's the distinction between a "sweetheart" and a "crush", in Chris sense? Could you please link me to where such a distinction is described? I thought the distinction was the level of Chris's emotions concerning the girl. So, I put those with high "emotion levels" in '''bold''', while all the other girls he fancied were put in plain text. It was probably not easy for other users to understand what I meant, I agree. So, you suggest putting "sweethearts" in one list and "crushes" in another? Hmm, that might be the best solution. I'll do that, but before (as I said), I'd like to know more on how are they distinguished, so that I wouldn't make the same mistake this time. However, I feel that all these "crushes" should be not forgotten, as they also provide some level of understanding Chris and his way about women. --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 09:08, 22 December 2009 (CET)
			*Hey, I tried fixing it a bit - what do you think now? --[[User:GokuGetEm\|GokuGetEm]] 14:40, 22 December 2009 (CET)