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	I have my suspicions about who may have leaked Christian's Facebook posts, but I'd rather not say, because I don't want to be involved in this. Christian accused this person of "leaking" the full list of classmates from our graduating class. Christian contacted some of his MHS friends and tried to make trouble. He told them to give this guy a hard time for what he did. His friends weren't amused. Anyway, I don't think Christian has anything to worry about. He's not friends with this guy anymore.<ref>[[October_2013_Facebook_Posts#Reality_Comes_Knocking]]</ref>}}}}		I have my suspicions about who may have leaked Christian's Facebook posts, but I'd rather not say, because I don't want to be involved in this. Christian accused this person of "leaking" the full list of classmates from our graduating class. Christian contacted some of his MHS friends and tried to make trouble. He told them to give this guy a hard time for what he did. His friends weren't amused. Anyway, I don't think Christian has anything to worry about. He's not friends with this guy anymore.<ref>[[October_2013_Facebook_Posts#Reality_Comes_Knocking]]</ref>}}}}

	The majority of Thetan's interactions come from her impersonating Rebeckah Bentley, an obscure high school gal-pal not often mentioned by Chris. These emails go from [[September 2013]] to late [[2014]], and are completely made up by Thetan unlike the other emails. Rebeckah acts more kindly to Chris than Thetan's other personas, giving him advice on relationships and life in general, which he would respond to with anger and sadness, due to his mental state at the time. Thetan admitted that this persona was meant to get Chris to stop obsessing over his high school days, by showing him the harsh reality of his [[gal-pals]]<ref>[[Kiwi_Farms_posts_(Thetan)#Thetan_and_Tiffany]]</ref>.		The majority of Thetan's interactions come from her impersonating Rebeckah Bentley, an obscure high school gal-pal not often mentioned by Chris. These emails go from [[September 2013]] to late [[2014]], and are completely made up by Thetan unlike the other emails. Rebeckah acts more kindly to Chris than Thetan's other personas, giving him advice on relationships and life in general, which he would respond to with anger and sadness, due to his mental state at the time. Thetan admitted that this persona was meant to get Chris to stop obsessing over his high school days, by showing him the harsh reality of his [[gal-pals]].<ref name=thetantiff>[[Kiwi_Farms_posts_(Thetan)#Thetan_and_Tiffany]]</ref>

	Rebeckah repeatedly mentions that he should move on from high school, however Chris refuses. After Chris made an angry email, ranting about [[Homos]] and [[JERKS]], Rebeckah responded with a long email, mainly consisting of her telling Chris to accept the [[LGBT]] community.		Rebeckah repeatedly mentions that he should move on from high school, however Chris refuses. After Chris made an angry email, ranting about [[Homos]] and [[JERKS]], Rebeckah responded with a long email, mainly consisting of her telling Chris to accept the [[LGBT]] community.
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	Thetan proclaimed that the emails sent back to Chris were based off of real emails that happened between her and Tiffany, with more harsh language		Thetan proclaimed that the emails sent back to Chris were based off of real emails that happened between her and Tiffany, with more harsh language

	{{quoteboxpurple\|The Tiffany emails were 'real' in the sense that they were based on conversations with the real Tiffany. I essentially paraphrased what the real Tiffany said, but I used much more frank, sometimes harsh, language to get the message across. (The gal pals are genuinely nice people which is another reason why I didn't want to get them involved in any of this.)<ref>~~[[Kiwi_Farms_posts_(Thetan)#Thetan_and_Tiffany]]~~</ref>}}		{{quoteboxpurple\|The Tiffany emails were 'real' in the sense that they were based on conversations with the real Tiffany. I essentially paraphrased what the real Tiffany said, but I used much more frank, sometimes harsh, language to get the message across. (The gal pals are genuinely nice people which is another reason why I didn't want to get them involved in any of this.)<ref name=thetantiff></ref>}}

	Eventually, Rebeckah sent Chris an email that was supposed from Tiffany Gowen, talking to Rebeckah.		Eventually, Rebeckah sent Chris an email that was supposed from Tiffany Gowen, talking to Rebeckah.

Hurtful Truth Level: /* Manchester High Impersonations */

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Manchester High Impersonations

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	In any case, I will have to FB search my name once again to find and report the impostor(s).<ref>[[September_2013_Facebook_Posts#Less confused]]</ref>}}		In any case, I will have to FB search my name once again to find and report the impostor(s).<ref>[[September_2013_Facebook_Posts#Less confused]]</ref>}}

	Chris posted one of her emails to him on Facebook, and was saddened by the contents. Thetan later claimed that this email was the only one to be completely authentic, and was copy and pasted and sent to Chris<ref>~~[[Kiwi_Farms_posts_(Thetan)#Fake_Or_Real_Gal-Pal_Emails?]]~~</ref>.		Chris posted one of her emails to him on Facebook, and was saddened by the contents. Thetan later claimed that this email was the only one to be completely authentic, and was copy and pasted and sent to Chris.<ref name=realfake></ref>

	{{quotebox\|I had long thought I was liked genuinely as a person in Manchester High School by my closest gal pals and everyone else. Now I am shocked to hear that everyone was my friend, because they felt sorry for me.		{{quotebox\|I had long thought I was liked genuinely as a person in Manchester High School by my closest gal pals and everyone else. Now I am shocked to hear that everyone was my friend, because they felt sorry for me.

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	His refusal to move past Tiffany led to the end of their communications.		His refusal to move past Tiffany led to the end of their communications.

	Due to her work with impersonations, she got added to the [[CWCki Forums]] private board, where she would talk about trolling with other Christorical figures such as [[Null]], [[Marvin]] and [[Alec Benson Leary]]~~<ref>[[CWCki Forums posts (Null)]]</ref>~~. While they were initially interested, members of the private board became tired of her trolling endeavors.<ref name=closureprivate></ref>		Due to her work with impersonations, she got added to the [[CWCki Forums]] private board, where she would talk about trolling with other Christorical figures such as [[Null]], [[Marvin]] and [[Alec Benson Leary]]. While they were initially interested, members of the private board became tired of her trolling endeavors.<ref name=closureprivate></ref>

	Eventually, after she impersonated a firefighter that was injured in the [[house fire]], [[Null]] asked her to stop impersonating entirely. This led to her being quiet for a long time, which Null theorized was because of being her demotivated and having to deal with real world issues. Eventually, she returned, but only using one of her personas, which was accepted by members of the private staff.<ref name=closureprivate></ref>		Eventually, after she impersonated a firefighter that was injured in the [[house fire]], [[Null]] asked her to stop impersonating entirely. This led to her being quiet for a long time, which Null theorized was because of being her demotivated and having to deal with real world issues. Eventually, she returned, but only using one of her personas, which was accepted by members of the private staff.<ref name=closureprivate></ref>

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	{{quote\|She pretended to be Chris' friends from high school. [...] The most notable thing I remember about her saga was that she made up that [[Borb]] hired Chris' high school friends. Chris got all sad and ran to Barb for comfort, to ask if it was true. And indeed, she confirmed it as true.\|[[Marvin]]<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Marvin)#Thetan Saga]]</ref>}}		{{quote\|She pretended to be Chris' friends from high school. [...] The most notable thing I remember about her saga was that she made up that [[Borb]] hired Chris' high school friends. Chris got all sad and ran to Barb for comfort, to ask if it was true. And indeed, she confirmed it as true.\|[[Marvin]]<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Marvin)#Thetan Saga]]</ref>}}

	{{quote\|[Their] work with the impersonations became such a massive web, most people stopped following it. For a while, even I didn't keep in touch. There were too many people, too much going on, and too many "forwarded emails" to keep straight.\|[[Null]]<ref>[[CWCki Forums posts (Null)]]</ref>}}		{{quote\|[Their] work with the impersonations became such a massive web, most people stopped following it. For a while, even I didn't keep in touch. There were too many people, too much going on, and too many "forwarded emails" to keep straight.\|[[Null]]<ref name=closureprivate>[[CWCki Forums posts (Null)#Closure of CWCki Forums Private Board]]</ref>}}

	{{Infobox Person		{{Infobox Person
	\|image = Thetan.jpg		\|image = Thetan.jpg
	\|name = Thetan		\|name = Thetan
	\|aliases = Rebeckah Bentley<br>Renee<br>Tiffany Gowen<br>Sarah Anne Bevel<br>[[Daniel Mimms]]<ref name=mimms>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Thetan)#Mimms Impersonation]]</ref><br>████████<br>		\|aliases = Rebeckah Bentley<br>Renee<br>Tiffany Gowen<br>Sarah Anne Bevel<br>[[Daniel Mimms]]<ref name=mimms>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Thetan)#Mimms Impersonation]]</ref><br>████████<ref name=closureprivate></ref>
	\|gender = Female		\|gender = Female
	\|nationality = American		\|nationality = American
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	His refusal to move past Tiffany led to the end of their communications.		His refusal to move past Tiffany led to the end of their communications.

	Due to her work with impersonations, she got added to the [[CWCki Forums]] private board, where she would talk about trolling with other Christorical figures such as [[Null]], [[Marvin]] and [[Alec Benson Leary]]<ref>[[CWCki Forums posts (Null)]]</ref>. While they were initially interested, members of the private board became tired of her trolling endeavors<ref>~~[[CWCki Forums posts (Null)]]~~</ref>~~. Null commented on it in a [[CWCki Forums]] post.~~		Due to her work with impersonations, she got added to the [[CWCki Forums]] private board, where she would talk about trolling with other Christorical figures such as [[Null]], [[Marvin]] and [[Alec Benson Leary]]<ref>[[CWCki Forums posts (Null)]]</ref>. While they were initially interested, members of the private board became tired of her trolling endeavors.<ref name=closureprivate></ref>

	{{quoteboxkiwi\|The impersonations became such a massive web, most people stopped following it. For a while, even I didn't keep in touch. There were too many people, too much going on, and too many "forwarded emails" to keep straight.<ref>[[CWCki Forums posts (Null)]]</ref>}}		Eventually, after she impersonated a firefighter that was injured in the [[house fire]], [[Null]] asked her to stop impersonating entirely. This led to her being quiet for a long time, which Null theorized was because of being her demotivated and having to deal with real world issues. Eventually, she returned, but only using one of her personas, which was accepted by members of the private staff.<ref name=closureprivate></ref>

	Eventually, after she impersonated a firefighter that was injured in the [[house fire]], [[Null]] asked her to stop impersonating entirely. This led to her being quiet for a long time, which Null theorized was because of being her demotivated and having to deal with real world issues. Eventually, she returned, but only using one of her personas, which was accepted by members of the private staff.

	==Catherine Saga==		==Catherine Saga==

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Manchester High Impersonations

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	One of the personas she contacted Chris as was [[Sarah Anne Bevel]]. Chris often posted on [[Facebook]] about their interactions.		One of the personas she contacted Chris as was [[Sarah Anne Bevel]]. Chris often posted on [[Facebook]] about their interactions.

	{{quotebox\|I am baffled! I get an email from one of my Closest Gal-Pals, Sarah Anne Bevel Ingram; she tells me, "I don't really know you". Is She Serious?! She, Tiffany Gowen and I shared a Home Ec class our Seinor Year; we ate lunch together on those same days. She made me feel better one day when I was feeling a difficult time. She came to my 18th Birthday Party. HOW could she NOT know me; we were Friends. - :( feeling upset.<ref>[[September_2013_Facebook_Posts]]</ref>}}		{{quotebox\|I am baffled! I get an email from one of my Closest Gal-Pals, Sarah Anne Bevel Ingram; she tells me, "I don't really know you". Is She Serious?! She, Tiffany Gowen and I shared a Home Ec class our Seinor Year; we ate lunch together on those same days. She made me feel better one day when I was feeling a difficult time. She came to my 18th Birthday Party. HOW could she NOT know me; we were Friends. - :( feeling upset.<ref>[[September_2013_Facebook_Posts#Baffled]]</ref>}}
	{{quotebox\|Still feeling baffled, but less confused; Sarah has just sent me another email. Apparently another Impostorous Troll has been pestering her. He just sexted her. I have replied immediately that I did not send her the photos, listed this, my ONE, Facebook page, and listed Ashley Abernathy Aviles, Molly Marie Quarles, Chris Rhodes, Matt Stufano, and Brian Smart, as ones to ask if she still did not believe me.		{{quotebox\|Still feeling baffled, but less confused; Sarah has just sent me another email. Apparently another Impostorous Troll has been pestering her. He just sexted her. I have replied immediately that I did not send her the photos, listed this, my ONE, Facebook page, and listed Ashley Abernathy Aviles, Molly Marie Quarles, Chris Rhodes, Matt Stufano, and Brian Smart, as ones to ask if she still did not believe me.

	In any case, I will have to FB search my name once again to find and report the impostor(s).<ref>[[September_2013_Facebook_Posts]]</ref>}}		In any case, I will have to FB search my name once again to find and report the impostor(s).<ref>[[September_2013_Facebook_Posts#Less confused]]</ref>}}

	Chris posted one of her emails to him on Facebook, and was saddened by the contents. Thetan later claimed that this email was the only one to be completely authentic, and was copy and pasted and sent to Chris<ref>[[Kiwi_Farms_posts_(Thetan)#Fake_Or_Real_Gal-Pal_Emails?]]</ref>.		Chris posted one of her emails to him on Facebook, and was saddened by the contents. Thetan later claimed that this email was the only one to be completely authentic, and was copy and pasted and sent to Chris<ref>[[Kiwi_Farms_posts_(Thetan)#Fake_Or_Real_Gal-Pal_Emails?]]</ref>.

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	==Manchester High Impersonations==		==Manchester High Impersonations==
	{{see also\|Rebeckah Bentley E-mails}}		{{see also\|Rebeckah Bentley E-mails}}
	In late [[2013]], Chris became incredibly nostalgic over [[Manchester High]], and starting organising a Manchester High reunion. Thetan, seeing this as an oppurtunity, started emailing Chris as his old high school [[gal-pals]]. Thetan later claimed that she had been in contact with the actual gal-pals, and asked them about Chris.<ref>[[Kiwi_Farms_posts_(Thetan)#Fake_Or_Real_Gal-Pal_Emails?]]</ref> She based her interactions with Chris on these interactions, conveying the same things that the gal-pals said<ref>~~[[Kiwi_Farms_posts_(Thetan)#Fake_Or_Real_Gal-Pal_Emails?]]~~</ref>.		In late [[2013]], Chris became incredibly nostalgic over [[Manchester High]], and starting organising a Manchester High reunion. Thetan, seeing this as an oppurtunity, started emailing Chris as his old high school [[gal-pals]]. Thetan later claimed that she had been in contact with the actual gal-pals, and asked them about Chris.<ref name=realfake>[[Kiwi_Farms_posts_(Thetan)#Fake_Or_Real_Gal-Pal_Emails?]]</ref> She based her interactions with Chris on these interactions, conveying the same things that the gal-pals said.<ref name=realfake></ref>

	{{quoteboxpurple\|I did speak via email with a couple of the gal pals, and I based my interactions with Chris on those conversations (I framed things a lot differently though. I didn't mince words, or beat around the bush. I called Chris on his bullshit.) The gal pals were always very "diplomatic" in their responses to my questions regarding Chris.<ref>~~[[Kiwi_Farms_posts_(Thetan)#Fake_Or_Real_Gal-Pal_Emails?]]~~</ref>}}		{{quoteboxpurple\|I did speak via email with a couple of the gal pals, and I based my interactions with Chris on those conversations (I framed things a lot differently though. I didn't mince words, or beat around the bush. I called Chris on his bullshit.) The gal pals were always very "diplomatic" in their responses to my questions regarding Chris.<ref name=realfake></ref>}}

	In the [[MHS classmate E-mails]], an unnamed classmate lectures Chris about dealing with trolls and [[jerkops]]. The classmate repeatedly states if Chris does not better himself that ties would be cut between the two of them. Chris refuses to accept this, blaming it on his [[Autism]] like usual, leaving to the 'classmate' stopping emailing Chris.		In the [[MHS classmate E-mails]], an unnamed classmate lectures Chris about dealing with trolls and [[jerkops]]. The classmate repeatedly states if Chris does not better himself that ties would be cut between the two of them. Chris refuses to accept this, blaming it on his [[Autism]] like usual, leaving to the 'classmate' stopping emailing Chris.

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	\|image = Thetan.jpg		\|image = Thetan.jpg
	\|name = Thetan		\|name = Thetan
	\|aliases = Rebeckah Bentley<br>Renee<br>Tiffany Gowen<br>Sarah Anne Bevel<br>████████<br>		\|aliases = Rebeckah Bentley<br>Renee<br>Tiffany Gowen<br>Sarah Anne Bevel<br>[[Daniel Mimms]]<ref name=mimms>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Thetan)#Mimms Impersonation]]</ref><br>████████<br>
	\|gender = Female		\|gender = Female
	\|nationality = American		\|nationality = American
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	If I were you Rebeckah, I'd seriously reconsider having anything to do with Christian. Do you really want to Google your name one day, only to find out that you've become the inspiration for Christian's latest rape fantasy porn drawing? Seriously, as a friend, I'm telling you to run, don't walk away from this.<ref>[[Rebeckah_Bentley_E-mails#I_want_my_friends_back]]</ref>}}		If I were you Rebeckah, I'd seriously reconsider having anything to do with Christian. Do you really want to Google your name one day, only to find out that you've become the inspiration for Christian's latest rape fantasy porn drawing? Seriously, as a friend, I'm telling you to run, don't walk away from this.<ref>[[Rebeckah_Bentley_E-mails#I_want_my_friends_back]]</ref>}}

	A week after this, Rebeckah gave Chris an email purportedly from [[Daniel Mimms]], supporting Chris after the [[house fire]]. However, Thetan herself had been impersonating Mimms.<ref>~~[[Kiwi Farms posts (Thetan)#Mimms Impersonation]]~~</ref> In [[September 2014]], Chris sent an email to [[Tiffany Gowen]], in reality Thetan in disguise.		A week after this, Rebeckah gave Chris an email purportedly from [[Daniel Mimms]], supporting Chris after the [[house fire]]. However, Thetan herself had been impersonating Mimms.<ref name=mimms></ref> In [[September 2014]], Chris sent an email to [[Tiffany Gowen]], in reality Thetan in disguise.

	{{quotebox\|I come in peace and good tidings, old friend. I still care about you as a friend, regardless of the uncalled for aggression and unpleasantries. I still want to be friends with you again, just friends. I understand you are either married or living with your boyfriend. You have a cute child; covered in cake; was the birthday party recent? I found your Facebook; I promise not to be a bother or a bore.		{{quotebox\|I come in peace and good tidings, old friend. I still care about you as a friend, regardless of the uncalled for aggression and unpleasantries. I still want to be friends with you again, just friends. I understand you are either married or living with your boyfriend. You have a cute child; covered in cake; was the birthday party recent? I found your Facebook; I promise not to be a bother or a bore.

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	'''Thetan''' (also known as '''Rebeckah Bentley''' and '''Renee''') ~~was~~ a [[troll]] known for impersonating many people in Chris's life. [[Null]] described her as doing too many impersonations, to the point where keeping track of all of them 'became such a massive web'.		'''Thetan''' (also known as '''Rebeckah Bentley''' and '''Renee''') is a former [[troll]] known for impersonating many people in Chris's life. [[Null]] described her as doing too many impersonations, to the point where keeping track of all of them 'became such a massive web'.

	Her most notable impersonations are her impersonations [[Gal-pals\|former high school classmates]], [[Chris and manipulation\|manipulating]] his [[Chris and nostalgia\|nostalgia]] for his [[Manchester High]] years. She's claimed that she was in genuine contact with these classmates, such as [[Sarah Bevel]] and [[Tiffany Gowen]], and would paraphrase what they said to send to [[Chris]]. She even claims that [[October_2013_Facebook_Posts#Reality_Comes_Knocking\|an email]] Chris once posted on [[Twitter]] was an exact replica of an actual email.		Her most notable impersonations are her impersonations [[Gal-pals\|former high school classmates]], [[Chris and manipulation\|manipulating]] his [[Chris and nostalgia\|nostalgia]] for his [[Manchester High]] years. She's claimed that she was in genuine contact with these classmates, such as [[Sarah Bevel]] and [[Tiffany Gowen]], and would paraphrase what they said to send to [[Chris]]. She even claims that [[October_2013_Facebook_Posts#Reality_Comes_Knocking\|an email]] Chris once posted on [[Twitter]] was an exact replica of an actual email.
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	If I were you Rebeckah, I'd seriously reconsider having anything to do with Christian. Do you really want to Google your name one day, only to find out that you've become the inspiration for Christian's latest rape fantasy porn drawing? Seriously, as a friend, I'm telling you to run, don't walk away from this.<ref>[[Rebeckah_Bentley_E-mails#I_want_my_friends_back]]</ref>}}		If I were you Rebeckah, I'd seriously reconsider having anything to do with Christian. Do you really want to Google your name one day, only to find out that you've become the inspiration for Christian's latest rape fantasy porn drawing? Seriously, as a friend, I'm telling you to run, don't walk away from this.<ref>[[Rebeckah_Bentley_E-mails#I_want_my_friends_back]]</ref>}}

	A week after this, Rebeckah gave Chris an email purportedly from [[Daniel Mimms]], supporting Chris after the [[house fire]]. In [[September 2014]], Chris sent an email to [[Tiffany Gowen]], in reality Thetan in disguise.		A week after this, Rebeckah gave Chris an email purportedly from [[Daniel Mimms]], supporting Chris after the [[house fire]]. However, Thetan herself had been impersonating Mimms.<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Thetan)#Mimms Impersonation]]</ref> In [[September 2014]], Chris sent an email to [[Tiffany Gowen]], in reality Thetan in disguise.

	{{quotebox\|I come in peace and good tidings, old friend. I still care about you as a friend, regardless of the uncalled for aggression and unpleasantries. I still want to be friends with you again, just friends. I understand you are either married or living with your boyfriend. You have a cute child; covered in cake; was the birthday party recent? I found your Facebook; I promise not to be a bother or a bore.		{{quotebox\|I come in peace and good tidings, old friend. I still care about you as a friend, regardless of the uncalled for aggression and unpleasantries. I still want to be friends with you again, just friends. I understand you are either married or living with your boyfriend. You have a cute child; covered in cake; was the birthday party recent? I found your Facebook; I promise not to be a bother or a bore.

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	{{unreliable\|type=cred\|Has given contradictory statements.<ref group = note>According to Marvin, Thetan made up a story ~~to Chris, telling him~~ Bob ~~paid~~ his High School gal-pals for their services. When she posted about her trolling on Kiwi Farms, she said that "she didn't think" payment was involved.</ref>}}		{{unreliable\|type=cred\|Has given contradictory statements.<ref group = note>According to Marvin, who personally spoke with Thetan and other prominent Kiwi Farms members, Thetan claimed she made up the story about Bob paying his High School gal-pals for their services. When she posted about her trolling on Kiwi Farms publicly, she said that "she didn't think" payment was involved, and couldn't give further details about the "arrangement".</ref>}}

	{{quote\|She pretended to be Chris' friends from high school. [...] The most notable thing I remember about her saga was that she made up that [[Borb]] hired Chris' high school friends. Chris got all sad and ran to Barb for comfort, to ask if it was true. And indeed, she confirmed it as true.\|[[Marvin]]<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Marvin)#Thetan Saga]]</ref>}}		{{quote\|She pretended to be Chris' friends from high school. [...] The most notable thing I remember about her saga was that she made up that [[Borb]] hired Chris' high school friends. Chris got all sad and ran to Barb for comfort, to ask if it was true. And indeed, she confirmed it as true.\|[[Marvin]]<ref>[[Kiwi Farms posts (Marvin)#Thetan Saga]]</ref>}}