User:PsychoNerd054/Crystalgate - Revision history

PsychoNerd054: I also didn't clarify this, but another reason I decided to make this a saga was because I do think it provides some context for some of the rumors that came about during the Incest fallout. MKR suspected Anaxis was working for Praetor, which was what got him banned, and the Watchmen were obsessed with Bella for her supposed ties towards Praetor.

2025-04-07T01:20:38Z

I also didn't clarify this, but another reason I decided to make this a saga was because I do think it provides some context for some of the rumors that came about during the Incest fallout. MKR suspected Anaxis was working for Praetor, which was what got him banned, and the Watchmen were obsessed with Bella for her supposed ties towards Praetor.

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	{{quoteboxnavy\|Oh no, we know about Praetor LLC. They're actually not trademarked, we've talked to them. Their site is a homedone project. The only internationally trademarked Praetor brand is Praetor Technologies.}}		{{quoteboxnavy\|Oh no, we know about Praetor LLC. They're actually not trademarked, we've talked to them. Their site is a homedone project. The only internationally trademarked Praetor brand is Praetor Technologies.}}
	}}		}}

			==Sonichu Intro==

	==The Taser Incident==		==The Taser Incident==

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The Taser Incident

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	==The Taser Incident==		==The Taser Incident==
	{{Main\|Taser}}		{{Main\|Taser}}

			{{quote\|we had a whole discussion about why it's a bad idea.\|Caden, trying to talk Chris out of tazing himself.<ref name=tasercall>[[Taser Discussion]]</ref>}}
			In [[February 2021]], Chris stated that he wanted to borrow one of Praetor's tasers to stun his [[Gate Crystal]] and [[Celestial Key]] [[quartz crystals]] in an attempt to activate the [[Dimensional Merge]].<ref name=thinking>[[Thinking with Portals#Praetor and the Taser‎]]</ref>

			The Watchmen confronted Caden about this, saying that it was dangerous for Praetor to be allowing Chris to use it and that Chris could hurt himself. In response, Caden insisted that Chris would be safe and that the group would act with safety in mind, that he would not permanently possess one of their stun guns, and that the version Chris would use is a lower-powered one than the items Praetor would be selling.<ref name=thinking></ref> Eventually, both parties began insulting each other on Discord. They eventually agreed to have [[Taser Discussion\|a call]] about the issue, in which the Watchmen berate Caden about the issue.

			Near the end of the call, [[Watchmen]] member [[Val]] jokingly asked if Praetor could get Chris to tase himself on video, to which Chris responded saying that he'd be willing too. Everyone was shocked by this, and Caden attempts to dissuade Chris from tazing himself.

			After this call, the [[Watchmen]] gained an intense hatred and rivarly for Praetor and especially Caden, seeing him as on the same level as [[Joshua Wise]] or [[Jacob Sockness]]. [[Watchmen]] member [[Naught]] then released that portion of the audio clip, but twisted the context to make it seem like Praetor wanted Chris to tase himself. This rumor was perpetuated by other Watchmen members, and eventually reached [[GiBi]], who made a video claiming it was fact.

	==Confrontation==		==Confrontation==

	{{CrystalgateSaga}}		{{CrystalgateSaga}}

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Chris's Announcement to the Watchmen

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	==Chris's Announcement to the Watchmen==		==Chris's Announcement to the Watchmen==
	On 22 [[September 2020]], Chris made a post on [[The Place]] [[Discord]] server, where he mentioned that he was meeting with some "new associates."<ref name=placeassociates></ref> He mentions that they were going to talk about "the molding to mass produce the medallions, and possibly the figures, with optional Amiibo functions, in a little while." After being asked who these associates were, Chris refused to give their identities but gave details about their first interaction.		On 22 [[September 2020]], Chris made a post on [[The Place]] [[Discord]] server, where he mentioned that he was meeting with some "new associates."<ref name=placeassociates>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#The "New Associates" (and Helena Hate)\|The "New Associates" (and Helena Hate)]]</ref> He mentions that they were going to talk about "the molding to mass produce the medallions, and possibly the figures, with optional Amiibo functions, in a little while." After being asked who these associates were, Chris refused to give their identities but gave details about their first interaction.

	On the 25th, Chris mentioned them to the [[Watchmen]] again, revealing their name as Praetor LLC<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Patreon_Troubles,_Chris's_Online_Social_Life,_%22The_Boys,%22_Praetor_LLC_Revealed\|Patreon Troubles, Chris's Online Social Life, The Boys, Praetor LLC Revealed]]</ref>. On 3 October, Chris mentioned to them that Praetor was helping him create a "lore bible."<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Lore_Bible_Discussion\|Lore Bible Discussion]]</ref>. On the 15th, Praetor's [[Discord]] account, ran by Caden Peck, joined the [[The Place]] Discord server, and answered the Watchmen's questions.<ref name =q&a></ref>		On the 25th, Chris mentioned them to the [[Watchmen]] again, revealing their name as Praetor LLC<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Patreon_Troubles,_Chris's_Online_Social_Life,_%22The_Boys,%22_Praetor_LLC_Revealed\|Patreon Troubles, Chris's Online Social Life, The Boys, Praetor LLC Revealed]]</ref>. On 3 October, Chris mentioned to them that Praetor was helping him create a "lore bible."<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Lore_Bible_Discussion\|Lore Bible Discussion]]</ref>. On the 15th, Praetor's [[Discord]] account, ran by Caden Peck, joined the [[The Place]] Discord server, and answered the Watchmen's questions.<ref name =q&a></ref>

PsychoNerd054 at 04:16, 23 March 2025

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	{{Incomplete\|[[The Lainchu Manifesto]]\|Some stuff from the [[Praetor]] page}}		{{Incomplete\|[[The Lainchu Manifesto]]\|Some stuff from the [[Praetor]] page}}
	'''Crystalgate''' is the name given to the period in Christory where the Watchmen were at odds with [[Praetor]]. During this period, many conspiracy theories and rumors were spread across the CWCSphere, but most especially by [[Naught]] and [[MKRNightVee]]. All of ~~this~~ had riled up Chris, leading to him confronting the Watchmen.		'''Crystalgate''' is the name given to the period in Christory where the Watchmen were at odds with [[Praetor]]. During this period, many conspiracy theories and rumors about the organization were spread across the CWCSphere, but most especially by [[Naught]] and [[MKRNightVee]], as the Watchmen had believed that Praetor could be a group of trolls that were trying to manipulate Chris.

			All of the drama had riled up Chris, leading to him confronting the Watchmen.

	==Chris's Announcement to the Watchmen==		==Chris's Announcement to the Watchmen==

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	On the 25th, Chris mentioned them to the [[Watchmen]] again, revealing their name as Praetor LLC<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Patreon_Troubles,_Chris's_Online_Social_Life,_%22The_Boys,%22_Praetor_LLC_Revealed\|Patreon Troubles, Chris's Online Social Life, The Boys, Praetor LLC Revealed]]</ref>. On 3 October, Chris mentioned to them that Praetor was helping him create a "lore bible."<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Lore_Bible_Discussion\|Lore Bible Discussion]]</ref>. On the 15th, Praetor's [[Discord]] account, ran by Caden Peck, joined the [[The Place]] Discord server, and answered the Watchmen's questions.<ref name =q&a></ref>		On the 25th, Chris mentioned them to the [[Watchmen]] again, revealing their name as Praetor LLC<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Patreon_Troubles,_Chris's_Online_Social_Life,_%22The_Boys,%22_Praetor_LLC_Revealed\|Patreon Troubles, Chris's Online Social Life, The Boys, Praetor LLC Revealed]]</ref>. On 3 October, Chris mentioned to them that Praetor was helping him create a "lore bible."<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Lore_Bible_Discussion\|Lore Bible Discussion]]</ref>. On the 15th, Praetor's [[Discord]] account, ran by Caden Peck, joined the [[The Place]] Discord server, and answered the Watchmen's questions.<ref name =q&a></ref>


	{{collapsible\|Chat Excerpts\|{{quoteboxnavy\|We'll initially be only selling Medallions. These act as a trial run, testing market interest. Along the way, we will add more products. These will include but not be limited to comics, cards, and possibly amino figurines.}}		{{collapsible\|Chat Excerpts\|{{quoteboxnavy\|We'll initially be only selling Medallions. These act as a trial run, testing market interest. Along the way, we will add more products. These will include but not be limited to comics, cards, and possibly amino figurines.}}

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	==Chris's Announcement to the Watchmen==		==Chris's Announcement to the Watchmen==
			On 22 [[September 2020]], Chris made a post on [[The Place]] [[Discord]] server, where he mentioned that he was meeting with some "new associates."<ref name=placeassociates></ref> He mentions that they were going to talk about "the molding to mass produce the medallions, and possibly the figures, with optional Amiibo functions, in a little while." After being asked who these associates were, Chris refused to give their identities but gave details about their first interaction.

			On the 25th, Chris mentioned them to the [[Watchmen]] again, revealing their name as Praetor LLC<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Patreon_Troubles,_Chris's_Online_Social_Life,_%22The_Boys,%22_Praetor_LLC_Revealed\|Patreon Troubles, Chris's Online Social Life, The Boys, Praetor LLC Revealed]]</ref>. On 3 October, Chris mentioned to them that Praetor was helping him create a "lore bible."<ref>[[User:Anaxis/The_Place_Chats#Lore_Bible_Discussion\|Lore Bible Discussion]]</ref>. On the 15th, Praetor's [[Discord]] account, ran by Caden Peck, joined the [[The Place]] Discord server, and answered the Watchmen's questions.<ref name =q&a></ref>


	{{collapsible\|Chat Excerpts\|{{quoteboxnavy\|We'll initially be only selling Medallions. These act as a trial run, testing market interest. Along the way, we will add more products. These will include but not be limited to comics, cards, and possibly amino figurines.}}		{{collapsible\|Chat Excerpts\|{{quoteboxnavy\|We'll initially be only selling Medallions. These act as a trial run, testing market interest. Along the way, we will add more products. These will include but not be limited to comics, cards, and possibly amino figurines.}}
	{{quoteboxnavy\|It costs about 3 dollars per medallion. We sell them for 25 apiece, as to match our competitors. Etsy brand imposters are selling Medallions for 25-30. To uproot them, we must match or go below their prices.		{{quoteboxnavy\|It costs about 3 dollars per medallion. We sell them for 25 apiece, as to match our competitors. Etsy brand imposters are selling Medallions for 25-30. To uproot them, we must match or go below their prices.

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	==Chris's Announcement to the Watchmen==		==Chris's Announcement to the Watchmen==
			{{collapsible\|Chat Excerpts\|{{quoteboxnavy\|We'll initially be only selling Medallions. These act as a trial run, testing market interest. Along the way, we will add more products. These will include but not be limited to comics, cards, and possibly amino figurines.}}
			{{quoteboxnavy\|It costs about 3 dollars per medallion. We sell them for 25 apiece, as to match our competitors. Etsy brand imposters are selling Medallions for 25-30. To uproot them, we must match or go below their prices.

			If business is good, we'll increase sales by discounting them, selling them for 15-20}}
			{{quoteboxnavy\|In order to emulate Sonichu's original medallion, they are stamped in a mold we made and baked. Then, painted. We mail them from our own company pocket for a while, as it is cheaper then registration with a mailing company. When we get big enough, we can afford to register and get discounted shipping services}}
			{{quoteboxnavy\|We've not shipped any yet, so we only have estimates. It won't be more then a few dollars.
			The medallions are not large not heavy.}}
			{{quoteboxnavy\|We signed a confidentiality agreement with Sonichu, as we are a company. If Sonichu gives her consent, I can disclose profit splits and profit estimates.}}
			{{quoteboxnavy\| We've worked with creative types for about 3 years now. You may recognize a few of my more eccentric clients!
			Have any of you ever heard of Molossia?}}

			After being asked if they sold merch for Molossia:

			{{quoteboxnavy\|We don't only do merch. We helped him find someone to write a dissertation on the micronation's sovereignty.

			He's using that to try and officiate his territory as a nation.

			More power to him, I suppose.

			What do y'all do? I'm excited to be working with this team.}}
			{{quoteboxnavy\|I used to have a website, but due to domain costs I took it down. When it comes to clients, I find that it's easier to find eccentric people then to have them find you. If you're interested in partnership or a meeting, I've been transitioning us to social media. We have a new twitter and an Instagram.
			Our email is llcpraetor@gmail.com.}}
			{{quoteboxnavy\|@praetor_llc and the Twitter is @praetor
			With social media, I can find my own clientele. Considering that I'm here, seems like things are working out!}}

			On another brand named 'Praetor LLC':

			{{quoteboxnavy\|Oh no, we know about Praetor LLC. They're actually not trademarked, we've talked to them. Their site is a homedone project. The only internationally trademarked Praetor brand is Praetor Technologies.}}
			}}

	==The Taser Incident==		==The Taser Incident==

PsychoNerd054 at 04:10, 23 March 2025

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	{{Incomplete\|[[The Lainchu Manifesto]]\|Some stuff from the [[Praetor]] page}}		{{Incomplete\|[[The Lainchu Manifesto]]\|Some stuff from the [[Praetor]] page}}
	'''Crystalgate''' is the name given to the period in Christory where the Watchmen were at odds with [[Praetor]].		'''Crystalgate''' is the name given to the period in Christory where the Watchmen were at odds with [[Praetor]]. During this period, many conspiracy theories and rumors were spread across the CWCSphere, but most especially by [[Naught]] and [[MKRNightVee]]. All of this had riled up Chris, leading to him confronting the Watchmen.

	==Chris's Announcement to the Watchmen==		==Chris's Announcement to the Watchmen==

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The Taser Incident

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	==The Taser Incident==		==The Taser Incident==
			{{Main\|Taser}}

	==Confrontation==		==Confrontation==

	{{CrystalgateSaga}}		{{CrystalgateSaga}}

PsychoNerd054 at 04:08, 23 March 2025

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			{{Incomplete\|[[The Lainchu Manifesto]]\|Some stuff from the [[Praetor]] page}}
	'''Crystalgate''' is the name given to the period in Christory where the Watchmen were at odds with [[Praetor]].		'''Crystalgate''' is the name given to the period in Christory where the Watchmen were at odds with [[Praetor]].