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	I don't bring it up lightly. I'm not just in a bad mood. This principle—"don't say shit that the appropriate response of others to which is to totally ignore you or tell you to fuck off"—is one I've had to learn explicitly whereas I think most people who learn it learn it implicitly, automatically. I think it's very much one which can be learned by following Chris. I recognize the instinct of his to say, "Well, people COULD take ''x'' in ''y'' way, so I'll just go ahead and say it, and if they don't wan to take it that way, they can ignore it!" which seems to be behind, for example, many of his idiotic and humiliating YouTube videos which he addresses to specific individuals or groups of individuals. I don't know how welcome I am to point out this kind of thing because I'm obviously not the Supreme Arbiter of Everything there Is to Learn from Chris, but I think there are actual lessons to be learned here.		I don't bring it up lightly. I'm not just in a bad mood. This principle—"don't say shit that the appropriate response of others to which is to totally ignore you or tell you to fuck off"—is one I've had to learn explicitly whereas I think most people who learn it learn it implicitly, automatically. I think it's very much one which can be learned by following Chris. I recognize the instinct of his to say, "Well, people COULD take ''x'' in ''y'' way, so I'll just go ahead and say it, and if they don't wan to take it that way, they can ignore it!" which seems to be behind, for example, many of his idiotic and humiliating YouTube videos which he addresses to specific individuals or groups of individuals. I don't know how welcome I am to point out this kind of thing because I'm obviously not the Supreme Arbiter of Everything there Is to Learn from Chris, but I think there are actual lessons to be learned here.

	I just kind of said that the impulse is particularly identifiable in Chris, but at the beginning of the tirade in the Speculation I said it was pervasive throughout society. I don't see these statements as conflictory. As I've implied on this page, I don't think the motivations for a lot of what Chris does are at all special to him. What's special about Chris is his abject disconnection from any movement. His behavior is ''his''. There's all sorts of assholes out there as fucked up as Chris is, but they've got other people kind of blocking for them. Fucking furries, fucking otakukin, you know? When you do something stupid, it's a lot easier to have a buddy doing it there with you. It doesn't make it any less stupid.		I just kind of said that the impulse is particularly identifiable in Chris, but at the beginning of the tirade in the Speculation I said it was pervasive throughout society. I don't see these statements as conflictory. As I've implied on this page, I don't think the motivations for a lot of what Chris does are at all special to him. What's special about Chris is his abject disconnection from any social movement. His behavior is ''his''. There's all sorts of assholes out there as fucked up as Chris is, but they've got other people kind of blocking for them. Fucking furries, fucking otakukin, you know? When you do something stupid, it's a lot easier to have a buddy doing it there with you. It doesn't make it any less stupid.

Thepicklesuitintheman at 19:46, 25 September 2010

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	All of his behavior can be explained by varying combinations of his stubbornness, spitefulness toward people he sees as having wronged him, bad judgment in deciding who those people are, desperation, anxiety, inexperience, naivete, isolation, and autism.		All of his behavior can be explained by varying combinations of his stubbornness, spitefulness toward people he sees as having wronged him, bad judgment in deciding who those people are, desperation, anxiety, inexperience, naivete, isolation, and autism.

			===Shut up.===

			I just posted something in [[CWCki:Speculation#The_effects_of_hoarding_on_Chris\|the Speculation]] about... well... speculation.

			I don't bring it up lightly. I'm not just in a bad mood. This principle—"don't say shit that the appropriate response of others to which is to totally ignore you or tell you to fuck off"—is one I've had to learn explicitly whereas I think most people who learn it learn it implicitly, automatically. I think it's very much one which can be learned by following Chris. I recognize the instinct of his to say, "Well, people COULD take ''x'' in ''y'' way, so I'll just go ahead and say it, and if they don't wan to take it that way, they can ignore it!" which seems to be behind, for example, many of his idiotic and humiliating YouTube videos which he addresses to specific individuals or groups of individuals. I don't know how welcome I am to point out this kind of thing because I'm obviously not the Supreme Arbiter of Everything there Is to Learn from Chris, but I think there are actual lessons to be learned here.

			I just kind of said that the impulse is particularly identifiable in Chris, but at the beginning of the tirade in the Speculation I said it was pervasive throughout society. I don't see these statements as conflictory. As I've implied on this page, I don't think the motivations for a lot of what Chris does are at all special to him. What's special about Chris is his abject disconnection from any movement. His behavior is ''his''. There's all sorts of assholes out there as fucked up as Chris is, but they've got other people kind of blocking for them. Fucking furries, fucking otakukin, you know? When you do something stupid, it's a lot easier to have a buddy doing it there with you. It doesn't make it any less stupid.

Thepicklesuitintheman at 02:03, 25 September 2010

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	I'm going to be adding shit here every once in a while, maybe. I don't fucking know. I've got some shit I want to say about Chris that I don't know if anyone'll ever care about, but I think is important. I've gone through a lot of shit Chris has except I don't totally suck.		I'm going to be adding shit here every once in a while, maybe. I don't fucking know. I've got some shit I want to say about Chris that I don't know if anyone'll ever care about, but I think is important. I've gone through a lot of shit Chris has except I don't totally suck.

	I'm "HFA." I was diagnosed when I was 15. I've been living with my parents for too fucking long. I lost my virginity about three weeks before I turned 28. I know it's kind of lame to say this kind of shit, but it appropriately characterizes the situation: I have a genius-level IQ, I could read at a college level when I was in elementary school, and I work the grill at McDonald's. I'm working with government and non-profit programs right now to do shit like move out get a job that doesn't make vagina's slam shut like that one part in that one movie ''Blazing Saddles'' when that big retard shoes up. Shit's not easy.		I'm "HFA." I was diagnosed when I was 15. I've been living with my parents for too fucking long. I lost my virginity about three weeks before I turned 28. I know it's kind of lame to say this kind of shit, but it appropriately characterizes the situation: I have a genius-level IQ, I could read at a college level when I was in elementary school, and I work the grill for literally minimum wage at McDonald's. I'm working with government and non-profit programs right now to do shit like move out get a job that doesn't make vagina's slam shut like that one part in that one movie ''Blazing Saddles'' when that big retard shoes up. Shit's not easy.

	I've had to learn a lot. I've had to confront a lot of shit. I've basically had to systematically dismantle my whole way of life. I mean, how would you feel if you just up and realized one day that, to succeed, you had to take your pants off and, completely naked from the waist down, goose-step around like Hitler while sniffing the tire tracks in your drawers? And not only that, but that ''this whole time,'' how you feel about people who do that is other people feel about how you've been acting and what you've been wanting your whole life? It's hard and that's why Chris won't do it.		I've had to learn a lot. I've had to confront a lot of shit. I've basically had to systematically dismantle my whole way of life. I mean, how would you feel if you just up and realized one day that, to succeed, you had to take your pants off and, completely naked from the waist down, goose-step around like Hitler while sniffing the tire tracks in your drawers? And not only that, but that ''this whole time,'' how you feel about people who do that is other people feel about how you've been acting and what you've been wanting your whole life? It's hard and that's why Chris won't do it.

Thepicklesuitintheman at 02:03, 25 September 2010

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	I'm going to be adding shit here every once in a while, maybe. I don't fucking know. I've got some shit I want to say about Chris that I don't know if anyone'll ever care about, but I think is important. I've gone through a lot of shit Chris has except I don't totally suck.		I'm going to be adding shit here every once in a while, maybe. I don't fucking know. I've got some shit I want to say about Chris that I don't know if anyone'll ever care about, but I think is important. I've gone through a lot of shit Chris has except I don't totally suck.

	I'm "HFA." I was diagnosed when I was 15. I've been living with my parents for too fucking long. I lost my virginity about three weeks before I turned 28. I have a genius-level IQ, I could read at a college level when I was in ~~3rd grade~~, and I work the grill at McDonald's. I'm working with government and non-profit programs right now to do shit like move out get a job that doesn't make vagina's slam shut like that one part in that one movie ''Blazing Saddles'' when that big retard shoes up. Shit's not easy.		I'm "HFA." I was diagnosed when I was 15. I've been living with my parents for too fucking long. I lost my virginity about three weeks before I turned 28. I know it's kind of lame to say this kind of shit, but it appropriately characterizes the situation: I have a genius-level IQ, I could read at a college level when I was in elementary school, and I work the grill at McDonald's. I'm working with government and non-profit programs right now to do shit like move out get a job that doesn't make vagina's slam shut like that one part in that one movie ''Blazing Saddles'' when that big retard shoes up. Shit's not easy.

	I've had to learn a lot. I've had to confront a lot of shit. I've basically had to systematically dismantle my whole way of life. I mean, how would you feel if you just up and realized one day that, to succeed, you had to take your pants off and, completely naked from the waist down, goose-step around like Hitler while sniffing the tire tracks in your drawers? And not only that, but that ''this whole time,'' how you feel about people who do that is other people feel about how you've been acting and what you've been wanting your whole life? It's hard and that's why Chris won't do it.		I've had to learn a lot. I've had to confront a lot of shit. I've basically had to systematically dismantle my whole way of life. I mean, how would you feel if you just up and realized one day that, to succeed, you had to take your pants off and, completely naked from the waist down, goose-step around like Hitler while sniffing the tire tracks in your drawers? And not only that, but that ''this whole time,'' how you feel about people who do that is other people feel about how you've been acting and what you've been wanting your whole life? It's hard and that's why Chris won't do it.

Thepicklesuitintheman at 01:59, 25 September 2010

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	I'm going to be adding shit here every once in a while, maybe. I don't fucking know. I've got some shit I want to say about Chris that I don't know if anyone'll ever care about, but I think is important. I've gone through a lot of shit Chris has except I don't totally suck.		I'm going to be adding shit here every once in a while, maybe. I don't fucking know. I've got some shit I want to say about Chris that I don't know if anyone'll ever care about, but I think is important. I've gone through a lot of shit Chris has except I don't totally suck.

	I'm "HFA." I was diagnosed when I was 15. I've been living with my parents for too fucking long. I lost my virginity about three weeks before I turned 28. I'm working with government and non-profit programs right now to do shit like get a job ~~and move out~~. Shit's not easy. I've had to learn a lot. I've had to confront a lot of shit.		I'm "HFA." I was diagnosed when I was 15. I've been living with my parents for too fucking long. I lost my virginity about three weeks before I turned 28. I have a genius-level IQ, I could read at a college level when I was in 3rd grade, and I work the grill at McDonald's. I'm working with government and non-profit programs right now to do shit like move out get a job that doesn't make vagina's slam shut like that one part in that one movie ''Blazing Saddles'' when that big retard shoes up. Shit's not easy.

			I've had to learn a lot. I've had to confront a lot of shit. I've basically had to systematically dismantle my whole way of life. I mean, how would you feel if you just up and realized one day that, to succeed, you had to take your pants off and, completely naked from the waist down, goose-step around like Hitler while sniffing the tire tracks in your drawers? And not only that, but that ''this whole time,'' how you feel about people who do that is other people feel about how you've been acting and what you've been wanting your whole life? It's hard and that's why Chris won't do it.

	I have some marked advantages over Chris. I'm introspective as shit and at least somewhat nearly intellectually honest, so I can generally figure out what I did wrong in a situation after it happens. I daresay I'm more intelligent than he is. I have siblings. I'm also somewhat ripped, but that's beside the point. I just mean I've gone through some of what Chris has and succeeded. Maybe more people here than just me here have, I dunno.		I have some marked advantages over Chris. I'm introspective as shit and at least somewhat nearly intellectually honest, so I can generally figure out what I did wrong in a situation after it happens. I daresay I'm more intelligent than he is. I have siblings. I'm also somewhat ripped, but that's beside the point. I just mean I've gone through some of what Chris has and succeeded. Maybe more people here than just me here have, I dunno.

Thepicklesuitintheman at 20:39, 16 September 2010

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	So like I said, this is kind of a microscopic examination of a few examples of what we already know. But we all already know that if you have a cup and you set it on the table, the cup doesn't fall through the table or sort of fuse itself to the table or become part of the table somehow. There was a time when I was very young that I wondered why that is and I still kind of can't tell you, but I know a little about particle physics and EM fields and reactivity and stuff and I'm at least satisfied. I don't think Chris would be much more interesting to trained psychologists than the table and the cup would be to trained physicists because they work with people like him all the time. What's notable about Chris is his naive willingness to demonstrate to anyone and everyone publicly. I don't think there's anything to learn from him specially, but I, as an autistic, do think I've learned from following him and, importantly, from people's responses to him and their explicit reasoning for it.		So like I said, this is kind of a microscopic examination of a few examples of what we already know. But we all already know that if you have a cup and you set it on the table, the cup doesn't fall through the table or sort of fuse itself to the table or become part of the table somehow. There was a time when I was very young that I wondered why that is and I still kind of can't tell you, but I know a little about particle physics and EM fields and reactivity and stuff and I'm at least satisfied. I don't think Chris would be much more interesting to trained psychologists than the table and the cup would be to trained physicists because they work with people like him all the time. What's notable about Chris is his naive willingness to demonstrate to anyone and everyone publicly. I don't think there's anything to learn from him specially, but I, as an autistic, do think I've learned from following him and, importantly, from people's responses to him and their explicit reasoning for it.

			==How I think people should limit their speculation as to Chris's intents and why==

			It's a truism in weather forecasting that if you're tracking a weather pattern, the most reliable prediction to make is that the pattern's just going to stay the way it is. It's hard to take into account the combinations, splittings, attractions, repulsions, ups, downs, lefts, rights, backs, and forths of all the trillions of particles and charges and shit going on in there, so if the hurricane's moving up the east coast, chances are it's not going to up and hang a left and head straight into the continent. Even if it does, there's probably going to be a hell of a lot of energy coming from somewhere that made it do that.

			If you think too hard about it, this really starts getting into Meaning-of-Life type shit like whether we have free will or not, but I think people are like that, too. Typically, the world's greatest rapist isn't going to be the world's greatest daycare provider and vice versa. You can probably articulate exactly what in their behavior tells you why. Which isn't to say people don't establish new patterns of behavior; that's what growing and learning is all about. It's just that if you want to Pedro Alonso Lopez to babysit your kid sister, you'd better have a pretty damned good reason.

			I think Chris has established certain patterns that we shouldn't assume any major deviation from without good reason. Given some of what people've put in the Speculation, I'm not sure people would agree with all of these; there are some that go without saying, so I'm not going to bother with those.

			===He's not crazy.===

			Ha ha, just kidding, yes he is. But we already know what his deal is. [[Autism papers\|The Autism Papers]] pretty much sums it up in my opinion. I'm not saying "The autism papers said it, therefore it has to be true!"; it's just that they were written by trained, ostensibly neutral, third-party professionals and everything in there holds today, with the addendum that he's just had that much longer to just wallow in it.

			All of his behavior can be explained by varying combinations of his stubbornness, spitefulness toward people he sees as having wronged him, bad judgment in deciding who those people are, desperation, anxiety, inexperience, naivete, isolation, and autism.

Thepicklesuitintheman: /* A theory about Chris and ripping shit off, etc. */

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A theory about Chris and ripping shit off, etc.

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	This behavior—not getting the point of something, copying it badly, and totally garbling the information it was supposed to convey—aren't unique to Chris. Just as an example off the top of my head, there're people out there who speak in faux Early Modern English with "thees" and "thous" when they make grand, stupid religious proclamations, ostensibly because they see it as more formal and authoritative because that's how it sounds in the King James Bible. Of course, that's just how people spoke at the time; "thee" and "thou" were very ''in''formal then, "you" was plural and much more formal. You'd refer to another person as "you" almost the way the Queen of England refers to herself as "we." The Bible wasn't written to sound idiosyncratic, hard to understand, old-fashioned, scary, stuffy: it's just a book—''The'' Book, but a book nonetheless. Parts of it are meant to be scary, parts of it are meant to be authoritative, parts of it are meant to be ''funny''.		This behavior—not getting the point of something, copying it badly, and totally garbling the information it was supposed to convey—aren't unique to Chris. Just as an example off the top of my head, there're people out there who speak in faux Early Modern English with "thees" and "thous" when they make grand, stupid religious proclamations, ostensibly because they see it as more formal and authoritative because that's how it sounds in the King James Bible. Of course, that's just how people spoke at the time; "thee" and "thou" were very ''in''formal then, "you" was plural and much more formal. You'd refer to another person as "you" almost the way the Queen of England refers to herself as "we." The Bible wasn't written to sound idiosyncratic, hard to understand, old-fashioned, scary, stuffy: it's just a book—''The'' Book, but a book nonetheless. Parts of it are meant to be scary, parts of it are meant to be authoritative, parts of it are meant to be ''funny''.

	This doesn't mean Chris doing it is any better or their doing it is any worse; it's just a fact: Chris does this, other people do it. What's striking about how Chris does it is that it's totally idiosyncratic. This makes sense given his diagnosis but also compounds the ill effects of the act. When virtually everyone believes something, no matter how stupid—the idea that Christopher Columbus somehow proved to anyone that the world was round by sailing to the east... then... returning ''from the east, from a part of the world none of them had ever been to and had no idea where it was, east, south, north or west of them'', for example—not only is it less likely you'll be called out for it, but you've likely got two or three other guys there with you reminding everyone how much that makes sense.		This doesn't mean Chris doing it is any better or their doing it is any worse; it's just a fact: Chris does this, other people do it. What's striking about how Chris does it is that it's totally idiosyncratic. This makes sense given his diagnosis but also compounds the ill effects of the act. When virtually everyone believes something, no matter how stupid—the idea that Christopher Columbus somehow proved to anyone that the world was round by sailing to the east... then... returning ''from the east, from a part of the world none of them had ever been to and had no idea where it was, east, south, north or west of them'', for example—not only is it less likely you'll be called out for it, but you've likely got two or three other guys there with you reminding everyone how much that makes sense. It doesn't have to be the best solution or make total sense, but you cut—or maybe ''tie''—the Gordian Knot and you move forward.

	So like I said, this is kind of a microscopic examination of a few examples of what we already know. But we all already know that if you have a cup and you set it on the table, the cup doesn't fall through the table or sort of fuse itself to the table or become part of the table somehow. There was a time when I was very young that I wondered why that is and I still kind of can't tell you, but I know a little about particle physics and EM fields and reactivity and stuff and I'm at least satisfied. I don't think Chris would be much more interesting to trained psychologists than the table and the cup would be to trained physicists because they work with people like him all the time. What's notable about Chris is his naive willingness to demonstrate to anyone and everyone publicly. I don't think there's anything to learn from him specially, but I, as an autistic, do think I've learned from following him and, importantly, from people's responses to him and their explicit reasoning for it.		So like I said, this is kind of a microscopic examination of a few examples of what we already know. But we all already know that if you have a cup and you set it on the table, the cup doesn't fall through the table or sort of fuse itself to the table or become part of the table somehow. There was a time when I was very young that I wondered why that is and I still kind of can't tell you, but I know a little about particle physics and EM fields and reactivity and stuff and I'm at least satisfied. I don't think Chris would be much more interesting to trained psychologists than the table and the cup would be to trained physicists because they work with people like him all the time. What's notable about Chris is his naive willingness to demonstrate to anyone and everyone publicly. I don't think there's anything to learn from him specially, but I, as an autistic, do think I've learned from following him and, importantly, from people's responses to him and their explicit reasoning for it.

Thepicklesuitintheman at 21:33, 9 September 2010

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	I have some marked advantages over Chris. I'm introspective as shit and at least somewhat nearly intellectually honest, so I can generally figure out what I did wrong in a situation after it happens. I daresay I'm more intelligent than he is. I have siblings. I'm also somewhat ripped, but that's beside the point. I just mean I've gone through some of what Chris has and succeeded. Maybe more people here than just me here have, I dunno.		I have some marked advantages over Chris. I'm introspective as shit and at least somewhat nearly intellectually honest, so I can generally figure out what I did wrong in a situation after it happens. I daresay I'm more intelligent than he is. I have siblings. I'm also somewhat ripped, but that's beside the point. I just mean I've gone through some of what Chris has and succeeded. Maybe more people here than just me here have, I dunno.

	I realize I'm probably not going to change m/any minds, but it's interesting to me to try to get what's the HONEST TRUTH out there.		I realize I'm probably not going to change m/any minds, but it's interesting to me to try to get what's the HONEST TRUTH out there. Which is a joke. Very little of what I believe and therefore very little of what I state, here or otherwise, I believe fundamentally. Some of it'll take more for me to say, "Oh, I was wrong about that," than other of it, but the vast majority of what I put here I want to discuss because most of what I say generally about Chris applies to me on some level, too, and I really want to get it right.

	==Random anecdotes from my idiotic, HFA youth the motivations of which I think explain at least some of Chris's behavior==		==Random anecdotes from my idiotic, HFA youth the motivations of which I think explain at least some of Chris's behavior==

Thepicklesuitintheman: /* A theory about Chris and ripping shit off, etc. */

2010-09-05T02:10:54Z

A theory about Chris and ripping shit off, etc.

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	This doesn't mean Chris doing it is any better or their doing it is any worse; it's just a fact: Chris does this, other people do it. What's striking about how Chris does it is that it's totally idiosyncratic. This makes sense given his diagnosis but also compounds the ill effects of the act. When virtually everyone believes something, no matter how stupid—the idea that Christopher Columbus somehow proved to anyone that the world was round by sailing to the east... then... returning ''from the east, from a part of the world none of them had ever been to and had no idea where it was, east, south, north or west of them'', for example—not only is it less likely you'll be called out for it, but you've likely got two or three other guys there with you reminding everyone how much that makes sense.		This doesn't mean Chris doing it is any better or their doing it is any worse; it's just a fact: Chris does this, other people do it. What's striking about how Chris does it is that it's totally idiosyncratic. This makes sense given his diagnosis but also compounds the ill effects of the act. When virtually everyone believes something, no matter how stupid—the idea that Christopher Columbus somehow proved to anyone that the world was round by sailing to the east... then... returning ''from the east, from a part of the world none of them had ever been to and had no idea where it was, east, south, north or west of them'', for example—not only is it less likely you'll be called out for it, but you've likely got two or three other guys there with you reminding everyone how much that makes sense.

	So like I said, this is kind of a microscopic examination of a few examples of what we already know. But we all already know that if you have a cup and you set it on the table, the cup doesn't fall through the table or sort of fuse itself to the table or become part of the table somehow. There was a time when I was very young that I wondered why that is and I still kind of can't tell you, but I know a little about particle physics and EM fields and reactivity and stuff and I'm at least satisfied. I don't think Chris would be much more interesting to trained psychologists than the table and the cup would be to trained physicists because they work with people like him all the time. What's notable about Chris is his naive willingness to demonstrate to anyone and everyone publicly. I don't think there's anything to learn from him specially, but I, as an autistic, do think I've learned from following him and, importantly, people's responses to him and their explicit reasoning for it.		So like I said, this is kind of a microscopic examination of a few examples of what we already know. But we all already know that if you have a cup and you set it on the table, the cup doesn't fall through the table or sort of fuse itself to the table or become part of the table somehow. There was a time when I was very young that I wondered why that is and I still kind of can't tell you, but I know a little about particle physics and EM fields and reactivity and stuff and I'm at least satisfied. I don't think Chris would be much more interesting to trained psychologists than the table and the cup would be to trained physicists because they work with people like him all the time. What's notable about Chris is his naive willingness to demonstrate to anyone and everyone publicly. I don't think there's anything to learn from him specially, but I, as an autistic, do think I've learned from following him and, importantly, from people's responses to him and their explicit reasoning for it.