White-Knights - Revision history

WarnerBro at 21:34, 4 May 2026

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	'''Counter-trolls''' are those who take Chris's side to spite his [[trolls]]. Some do this because trolling one gullible idiot is less satisfying than trolling trolls, who actually have the ability to understand what is going on. Others have decided that Chris has jumped the shark and are trying to make everyone else leave him alone to put a stop to an old meme, which is effectively gatekeeping.		'''Counter-trolls''' are those who take Chris's side to spite his [[trolls]]. Some do this because trolling one gullible idiot is less satisfying than trolling trolls, who actually have the ability to understand what is going on. Others have decided that Chris has jumped the shark and are trying to make everyone else leave him alone to put a stop to an old meme, which is effectively gatekeeping.

	In the broader internet trolling community, a wide range of people, from neutral observers to even his greatest trolls, are accused of being white knights. This is mostly due to Chris's "fans" discouraging [[Weening]], [[Enablers\|Enabling]] and [[A-Logging]], acts which, to outside observers, could be misinterpreted as an attempt to reduce trolling. So when the label "white knight" gets thrown around, take it with a grain of salt.		In the broader internet trolling community, a wide range of people, from neutral observers to even his greatest trolls, are accused of being white knights. This is mostly due to Chris's "fans" discouraging [[weens\|Weening]], [[Enablers\|Enabling]] and [[A-Logs\|A-Logging]], acts which, to outside observers, could be misinterpreted as an attempt to reduce trolling. So when the label "white knight" gets thrown around, take it with a grain of salt.

	A meta-topic within the broader Chris saga has been the merits of attempting to help Chris stop being a lolcow, and whether he is deserving of such assistance, or even beyond help. Opinion on the matter is somewhat divided on whether Chris is capable of improvement, although most agree that if Chris is going to improve, it will not be in any large part due to the efforts of third parties who only interact with him over the Internet.		A meta-topic within the broader Chris saga has been the merits of attempting to help Chris stop being a lolcow, and whether he is deserving of such assistance, or even beyond help. Opinion on the matter is somewhat divided on whether Chris is capable of improvement, although most agree that if Chris is going to improve, it will not be in any large part due to the efforts of third parties who only interact with him over the Internet.

WarnerBro at 21:33, 4 May 2026

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	===Empathy===		===Empathy===
	The internet is full of [[autistic]] people, manchildren, and self-absorbed morons. Many of them are right here, fascinated with Chris. All of them see something of themselves in him, whether it's his [[obesity]], his [[Love Quest\|all-consuming need]] for [[Gal-pals\|female companionship]], or his fervent belief that his [[Sonichu (comic)\|homemade comics]] matter. A lot of white knights have made at least some of the mistakes Chris has made and have since wised up. They think they can help improve Chris by offering the benefit of their experience.		The internet is full of [[autism\|autistic]] people, manchildren, and self-absorbed morons. Many of them are right here, fascinated with Chris. All of them see something of themselves in him, whether it's his [[obesity]], his [[Love Quest\|all-consuming need]] for [[Gal-pals\|female companionship]], or his fervent belief that his [[Sonichu (comic)\|homemade comics]] matter. A lot of white knights have made at least some of the mistakes Chris has made and have since wised up. They think they can help improve Chris by offering the benefit of their experience.

	===Circumstances beyond Chris's control===		===Circumstances beyond Chris's control===

WarnerBro: /* Being overly nice to Chris might have molded him badly and still does */

2026-05-04T21:30:12Z

Being overly nice to Chris might have molded him badly and still does

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	===Being overly nice to Chris might have molded him badly and still does===		===Being overly nice to Chris might have molded him badly and still does===
	Tempting as it is to feel sympathetic for Chris (despite [[Affair With Mother\|certain events]]), doing so would only benefit him for all the wrong reasons. Chris's youth wasn't one without acts of kindness from others, albeit mainly people who were [[Manchester High\|well-meaning yet misguided]] at best or [[Barbara Chandler\|flat-out spoiled him at worst]]. As a result of others generally opting to shield Chris from even the slightest negativity ([[Virginia Jeanine Sanford\|with a few attempts at genuine advice going in one ear and out the other]]), he has grown accustomed to receiving, or expecting to receive, nothing but complete satisfaction with no strings attached from anyone who gives him the time of day.		Tempting as it is to feel sympathetic for Chris (despite [[Affair With Mother\|certain events]]), doing so would only benefit him for all the wrong reasons. Chris's youth wasn't one without acts of kindness from others, albeit mainly people who were [[Manchester High School\|well-meaning yet misguided]] at best or [[Barbara Chandler\|flat-out spoiled him at worst]]. As a result of others generally opting to shield Chris from even the slightest negativity ([[Virginia Jeanine Sanford\|with a few attempts at genuine advice going in one ear and out the other]]), he has grown accustomed to receiving, or expecting to receive, nothing but complete satisfaction with no strings attached from anyone who gives him the time of day.

	Not only has it led to Chris's tendency to become hostile to anyone trying to show him the error of his ways (and of course doesn't give him everything he wants), but it has also allowed opportunities for [[enablers]] to entertain his bizarre delusions, only making him worse than he was before his online infamy. To make matters worse, it has even effectively created a paradox where benefiting Chris prevents him from getting what would ''actually'' benefit him (i.e. [[Chris and mental healthcare\|therapeutic aid he needs but refuses]]), so even the best of intentions will ultimately yield no positive results whatsoever.		Not only has it led to Chris's tendency to become hostile to anyone trying to show him the error of his ways (and of course doesn't give him everything he wants), but it has also allowed opportunities for [[enablers]] to entertain his bizarre delusions, only making him worse than he was before his online infamy. To make matters worse, it has even effectively created a paradox where benefiting Chris prevents him from getting what would ''actually'' benefit him (i.e. [[Chris and mental healthcare\|therapeutic aid he needs but refuses]]), so even the best of intentions will ultimately yield no positive results whatsoever.

FromtheWordsofBR at 03:55, 7 January 2026

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Hurtful Truth Level: the trolls never tried to improve his life

2025-11-15T09:34:11Z

the trolls never tried to improve his life

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	'''Counter-trolls''' are those who take Chris's side to spite his [[trolls]]. Some do this because trolling one gullible idiot is less satisfying than trolling trolls, who actually have the ability to understand what is going on. Others have decided that Chris has jumped the shark and are trying to make everyone else leave him alone to put a stop to an old meme, which is effectively gatekeeping.		'''Counter-trolls''' are those who take Chris's side to spite his [[trolls]]. Some do this because trolling one gullible idiot is less satisfying than trolling trolls, who actually have the ability to understand what is going on. Others have decided that Chris has jumped the shark and are trying to make everyone else leave him alone to put a stop to an old meme, which is effectively gatekeeping.

	In the broader internet trolling community, a wide range of people, from neutral observers to even his greatest trolls, are accused of being white knights. This is mostly due to Chris's "fans" discouraging [[Weening]], [[Enablers\|Enabling]] and [[A-Logging]], acts which, to outside observers, could be misinterpreted as an attempt to reduce trolling. Many of these outside observers are also confused by the tendency of Chris's trolls, including his most [[Vivian Gee\|prolific]] [[Clyde Cash\|ones]], trying to get him to improve his life, as they don't know Chris well enough to know it's nigh impossible to get him to improve using the "soft touch". So when the label "white knight" gets thrown around, take it with a grain of salt.		In the broader internet trolling community, a wide range of people, from neutral observers to even his greatest trolls, are accused of being white knights. This is mostly due to Chris's "fans" discouraging [[Weening]], [[Enablers\|Enabling]] and [[A-Logging]], acts which, to outside observers, could be misinterpreted as an attempt to reduce trolling. So when the label "white knight" gets thrown around, take it with a grain of salt.

	A meta-topic within the broader Chris saga has been the merits of attempting to help Chris stop being a lolcow, and whether he is deserving of such assistance, or even beyond help. Opinion on the matter is somewhat divided on whether Chris is capable of improvement, although most agree that if Chris is going to improve, it will not be in any large part due to the efforts of third parties who only interact with him over the Internet.		A meta-topic within the broader Chris saga has been the merits of attempting to help Chris stop being a lolcow, and whether he is deserving of such assistance, or even beyond help. Opinion on the matter is somewhat divided on whether Chris is capable of improvement, although most agree that if Chris is going to improve, it will not be in any large part due to the efforts of third parties who only interact with him over the Internet.

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	'''White-Knighting''' is a term used to describe the act of going on [[the Internet]] to help or defend someone else against other people, out of [[CWC is Sad\|pity or compassion]], or for ulterior motives. People who do this are often referred to as '''White-Knights'''. White knighting of [[Chris]] is especially prevalent because of the sheer volume of abuse he's taken ever since he found his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page in [[2007]].		'''White-Knighting''' is a term used to describe the act of going on [[the Internet]] to help or defend someone else against other people, out of [[CWC is Sad\|pity or compassion]], or for ulterior motives. People who do this are often referred to as '''White-Knights'''. White knighting of [[Chris]] is especially prevalent because of the sheer volume of abuse he's taken ever since he found his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page in [[2007]].

Hurtful Truth Level: /* Facebook */

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Facebook

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	===Facebook===		===Facebook===
	~~In recent times (since~~ 2012), Chris ~~has taken~~ to using Facebook as his main means of expressing himself. Inevitably, this has not only attracted the attention of trolls, but, in 2013, a slew of White Knights as well, in particular, a [[William Elliott Waterman]], who taunted the trolls to come after him instead of Chris ('''Spoiler:''' Nobody did, because nobody actually cared what he had to say). Anna and [[Kim]] are two of the most notable ones on his friends list, both of whom try to offer constructive advice whenever Chris nosedives into a rant...when they're not busy kissing his ass, especially in the case of Anna.		From 2012 until 2017, Chris took to using [[Facebook]] as his main means of expressing himself. Inevitably, this has not only attracted the attention of trolls, but, in 2013, a slew of White Knights as well, in particular, [[William Elliott Waterman]], who taunted the trolls to come after him instead of Chris ('''Spoiler:''' Nobody did, because nobody actually cared what he had to say).

	However, as we've come to expect of Chris, anybody who tells him something he doesn't want to hear are people that needed to be brushed off until they stop saying those mean, awful things to him. A good case in point is his [[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Chris_Expresses_His_Outrage_for_Walmart\|anger-laced tirade in September 2013, when he got thrown out of Walmart and started calling names]]. The white knights typically chimed in with their support...''until'' he revealed that he [[Chris and the law\|vandalized]] an Xbox One display in the store. Several of them then told Chris that this was not right of him to do, and that the manager had every right to throw him out. His response to that?		However, as we've come to expect of Chris, anybody who tells him something he doesn't want to hear are people that needed to be brushed off until they stop saying those mean, awful things to him. A good case in point is his [[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Chris_Expresses_His_Outrage_for_Walmart\|anger-laced tirade in September 2013, when he got thrown out of Walmart and started calling names]]. The white knights typically chimed in with their support...''until'' he revealed that he [[Chris and the law\|vandalized]] an Xbox One display in the store. Several of them then told Chris that this was not right of him to do, and that the manager had every right to throw him out. His response to that?

FromtheWordsofBR: /* Arguments against white knighting */

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Arguments against white knighting

Alan Pardew: /* Chris will not even read your message */ Linking to how trolls had control over his e-mails would be better here for evidence.

2025-05-13T01:41:28Z

Chris will not even read your message: Linking to how trolls had control over his e-mails would be better here for evidence.

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	===Chris will not even read your message===		===Chris will not even read your message===
	For a long period of time, trolls had control over his e-mails. Messages sent to him by white knights were often deleted before he could read them. Even back in the days of the [[Mailbag]], any emails submitted to it, if they even got published, would've been [[Mailbag 29\|given one-word replies and ignored]].		For a long period of time, [[Chris_and_manipulation#Blocking_help\|trolls had control over his e-mails]]. Messages sent to him by white knights were often deleted before he could read them. Even back in the days of the [[Mailbag]], any emails submitted to it, if they even got published, would've been [[Mailbag 29\|given one-word replies and ignored]].

	===Being overly nice to Chris might have molded him badly and still does===		===Being overly nice to Chris might have molded him badly and still does===

FromtheWordsofBR: /* Motives */

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Motives

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	{{see also\|Chris and manipulation}}		{{see also\|Chris and manipulation}}

	Chris fails to identify people, a possible sign of [[Facial blindness\|prosopagnosia]]. [[BlueSpike\|Julie and her brother Max]] used the same voice, and yet Chris couldn't recognize that they were the same person. [[~~Emily~~]] played numerous real-life characters, and yet Chris fell for every one of them. Pictures of different women were used to depict Blanca, and yet Chris thought they were the same person. Chris believed that pictures of {{w\|Megan Fox}} were of [[Vanessa Hudgens]].<ref>[[Vanessa AIM Chat 9\|Vanessa AIM Chat IX]]</ref> In high school, Chris memorized his appearance in the mirror because he had trouble recognizing himself.<ref>[[Sonichu 7\|''Sonichu'' #7]] – [http://thedailypos.org/misc/sonichu/Issue%207/SchuComic8Page24.jpg "...I had to train my brain to visually remember what I looked like..."]</ref> Since he's never "updated" his self-image, this is a possible explanation regarding why he denies being overweight.		Chris fails to identify people, a possible sign of [[Facial blindness\|prosopagnosia]]. [[BlueSpike\|Julie and her brother Max]] used the same voice, and yet Chris couldn't recognize that they were the same person. [[LoveYouLongTime]] played numerous real-life characters, and yet Chris fell for every one of them. Pictures of different women were used to depict [[Blanca]], and yet Chris thought they were the same person. Chris believed that pictures of {{w\|Megan Fox}} were of [[Vanessa Hudgens]].<ref>[[Vanessa AIM Chat 9\|Vanessa AIM Chat IX]]</ref> In high school, Chris memorized his appearance in the mirror because he had trouble recognizing himself.<ref>[[Sonichu 7\|''Sonichu'' #7]] – [http://thedailypos.org/misc/sonichu/Issue%207/SchuComic8Page24.jpg "...I had to train my brain to visually remember what I looked like..."]</ref> Since he's never "updated" his self-image, this is a possible explanation regarding why he denies being overweight.

	Chris's autism also means that he thinks, and sees the world, in simplistic, binary terms; he cannot easily "read between the lines" or detect sarcasm, or practically any kind of nuance or subtlety. He's interpreted ''[[Family Guy]]'' as actually being against homosexuality.<ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate March 10th, 2009]]</ref> When two male acquaintances at [[the GAMe PLACe]] exchanged sarcastic homosexual remarks, Chris concluded that they were gay.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]] - "One day Mike was joking around with Tito and they exchanged sarcastic homosexual remarks, and from that tiny exchange, Chris extrapolated that they were gay."</ref> It is also thought that his decision to go [[tomgirl]] was at least partially due to him taking advice to "get in touch with his feminine side" literally.		Chris's autism also means that he thinks, and sees the world, in simplistic, binary terms; he cannot easily "read between the lines" or detect sarcasm, or practically any kind of nuance or subtlety. He's interpreted ''[[Family Guy]]'' as actually being against homosexuality.<ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate March 10th, 2009]]</ref> When two male acquaintances at [[the GAMe PLACe]] exchanged sarcastic homosexual remarks, Chris concluded that they were gay.<ref>[[Mimms and Lucas Q&A]] - "One day Mike was joking around with Tito and they exchanged sarcastic homosexual remarks, and from that tiny exchange, Chris extrapolated that they were gay."</ref> It is also thought that his decision to go [[tomgirl]] was at least partially due to him taking advice to "get in touch with his feminine side" literally.

	===The trolls are even worse people than Chris===		===The trolls are even worse people than Chris===
	Another frequently heard line of reasoning is that the trolls have gone way too far, and have demonstrated that they're even worse than Chris, or at least equally pathetic. For example, BlueSpike's [[Julie Reveals Herself\|sadistic abuse]] of his control over Chris [[~~BLUESPIKE~~#~~Encyclopedia_Dramatica_Troll_War~~\|outraged even trolls]]. The same can be said for the [[Idea Guys]], who convinced Chris to do extremely degrading things, permanently damaged his way of thinking, and even tried ''extorting'' him. The less sophisticated bulk of the trolling was the work of [[A-~~Logging\|A-Log~~]]s and [[~~Weening\|~~weens]], who are frowned upon even by trolls, and rightfully so. And, of course, who ''really'' has no life here: Chris, or the people who [[CWCki\|obsessively document and debate everything he does]]?		Another frequently heard line of reasoning is that the trolls have gone way too far, and have demonstrated that they're even worse than Chris, or at least equally pathetic. For example, BlueSpike's [[Julie Reveals Herself\|sadistic abuse]] of his control over Chris [[BlueSpike#Reaction\|outraged even trolls]]. The same can be said for the [[Idea Guys]], who convinced Chris to do extremely degrading things, permanently damaged his way of thinking, and even tried ''extorting'' him. The less sophisticated bulk of the trolling was the work of [[A-Logs]] and [[weens]], who are frowned upon even by trolls, and rightfully so. And, of course, who ''really'' has no life here: Chris, or the people who [[CWCki\|obsessively document and debate everything he does]]?

	===Attention Whores===		===Attention Whores===

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			[[File:441-CubScoutShield.JPG\|thumb\|Key equipment of a white knight]]
	'''White-Knighting''' is a term used to describe the act of going on [[the Internet]] to help or defend someone else against other people, out of [[CWC is Sad\|pity or compassion]], or for ulterior motives. People who do this are often referred to as '''White-Knights'''. White knighting of [[Chris]] is especially prevalent because of the sheer volume of abuse he's taken ever since he found his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page in [[2007]].		'''White-Knighting''' is a term used to describe the act of going on [[the Internet]] to help or defend someone else against other people, out of [[CWC is Sad\|pity or compassion]], or for ulterior motives. People who do this are often referred to as '''White-Knights'''. White knighting of [[Chris]] is especially prevalent because of the sheer volume of abuse he's taken ever since he found his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page in [[2007]].

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	[[File:441-CubScoutShield.JPG\|thumb\|Key equipment of a white knight]]		[[File:441-CubScoutShield.JPG\|thumb\|Key equipment of a white knight.]]

	'''White-Knighting''' is a term used to describe the act of going on [[the Internet]] to help or defend someone else against other people, out of [[CWC is Sad\|pity or compassion]], or for ulterior motives. People who do this are often referred to as '''White-Knights'''. White knighting of [[Chris]] is especially prevalent because of the sheer volume of abuse he's taken ever since he found his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page in [[2007]].		'''White-Knighting''' is a term used to describe the act of going on [[the Internet]] to help or defend someone else against other people, out of [[CWC is Sad\|pity or compassion]], or for ulterior motives. People who do this are often referred to as '''White-Knights'''. White knighting of [[Chris]] is especially prevalent because of the sheer volume of abuse he's taken ever since he found his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page in [[2007]].

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	===Empathy===		===Empathy===
	The internet is full of [[autistic]] people, manchildren, and self-absorbed morons. Many of them are right here, fascinated with Chris. All of them see something of themselves in him, whether it's his [[obesity]], his all-consuming need for female companionship, or his fervent belief that his homemade comics matter. A lot of white knights have made at least some of the mistakes Chris has made and have since wised up. They think they can help improve Chris by offering the benefit of their experience.		The internet is full of [[autistic]] people, manchildren, and self-absorbed morons. Many of them are right here, fascinated with Chris. All of them see something of themselves in him, whether it's his [[obesity]], his [[Love Quest\|all-consuming need]] for [[Gal-pals\|female companionship]], or his fervent belief that his [[Sonichu (comic)\|homemade comics]] matter. A lot of white knights have made at least some of the mistakes Chris has made and have since wised up. They think they can help improve Chris by offering the benefit of their experience.

	===Circumstances beyond Chris's control===		===Circumstances beyond Chris's control===
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	===The trolls are even worse people than Chris===		===The trolls are even worse people than Chris===
	Another frequently heard line of reasoning is that the trolls have gone way too far, and have demonstrated that they're even worse than Chris, or at least equally pathetic. For example, BlueSpike's [[Julie Reveals Herself\|sadistic abuse]] of his control over Chris [[BlueSpike#Reaction\|outraged even trolls]]. The same can be said for the [[Idea Guys]], who convinced Chris to do extremely degrading things, permanently damaged his way of thinking, and even tried ''extorting'' him. The less sophisticated bulk of the trolling was the work of [[A-Logs]] and [[weens]], who are frowned upon even by trolls, and rightfully so. And, of course, who ''really'' has no life here: Chris, or the people who [[CWCki\|obsessively document and debate everything he does]]?		Another frequently heard line of reasoning is that the trolls have gone way too far, and have demonstrated that they're even worse than Chris, or at least equally pathetic. For example, BlueSpike's [[Julie Reveals Herself\|sadistic abuse]] of his control over Chris [[BlueSpike#Reaction\|outraged even trolls]]. The same can be said for the [[Idea Guys]], who convinced Chris to do extremely degrading things, permanently damaged his way of thinking, and even allegedly tried ''extorting'' him. The less sophisticated bulk of the trolling was the work of [[A-Logs]] and [[weens]], who are frowned upon even by trolls, and rightfully so. And, of course, who ''really'' has no life here: Chris, or the people who [[CWCki\|obsessively document and debate everything he does]]?

	===Attention Whores===		===Attention Whores===
	Some of these white-knights, the aforementioned anti-trolls, desperately seek attention from the community that surrounds Chris, sometimes faking their protecting of Chris. A lot like [[enablers]], these people cannot contribute anything to society and therefore will never get a Wikipedia page of their own, so the CWCki or Geno's ~~Documentary~~ series is the next best alternative. White Knights with attention on their mind often pretend that they are protecting Chris for noble purposes, when in actuality are trying to gain confirmation from the community through morally questionable techniques.		Some of these white-knights, the aforementioned anti-trolls, desperately seek attention from the community that surrounds Chris, sometimes faking their protecting of Chris. A lot like [[enablers]], these people cannot contribute anything to society and therefore will never get a Wikipedia page of their own, so the CWCki or Geno's documentary series is the next best alternative. White Knights with attention on their mind often pretend that they are protecting Chris for noble purposes, when in actuality are trying to gain confirmation from the community through morally questionable techniques.

	==Arguments against white knighting==		==Arguments against white knighting==
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	Even ignoring the numerous altercations Chris got into during his [[Love Quest]] (resulting in portraying authorities doing their jobs as [[Jerkop\|one-dimensional]] [[Mary Lee Walsh\|villains]] for him and his league of OCs to triumph over) and the brutally honest tongue-lashing he's received in [[Father Call\|many a]] [[The End For Real\|phone call]], a particularly notable example of a white knight unable to make Chris wake up and smell the coffee was none other than [[Vivian Gee]]. [[Vivitheg's AIM chat\|After '''three hours''' of trying to do just that]], she eventually gave up, understandably equating the experience with "fighting a wall".		Even ignoring the numerous altercations Chris got into during his [[Love Quest]] (resulting in portraying authorities doing their jobs as [[Jerkop\|one-dimensional]] [[Mary Lee Walsh\|villains]] for him and his league of OCs to triumph over) and the brutally honest tongue-lashing he's received in [[Father Call\|many a]] [[The End For Real\|phone call]], a particularly notable example of a white knight unable to make Chris wake up and smell the coffee was none other than [[Vivian Gee]]. [[Vivitheg's AIM chat\|After '''three hours''' of trying to do just that]], she eventually gave up, understandably equating the experience with "fighting a wall".

	Supposing that Chris ''does'' consider you to be trustworthy, that still doesn't necessarily mean he will benefit from your attempts to help him. A good example would be [[Rocky Shoemaker]], who he considered to be better than a much-needed therapist yet consistently failed to follow just about ''every'' word of advice she gave him, her best efforts to prevent trolling schemes notwithstanding. Going back even further, Chris fondly remembered [[Virginia Jeanine Sanford]] being his favorite middle school teacher, proclaiming her to be "the most influential person of (his) life"<ref>~~https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_Facebook_posts~~#~~Nostalgic_for_middle_school_teacher~~</ref> who taught him "better social skills", how to deal with bullies and so forth<ref>~~https://sonichu.com/cwcki/~~Gal-~~Pals_and_Past_Sweethearts_~~(~~CWCipedia_page~~)</ref>. He even kept her parting message advising him how to avoid showing others his "weak points"; and yet, judging by the fact that '''[[CWCki\|this mere wiki]]''' exists, he obviously never took such words to heart.		Supposing that Chris ''does'' consider you to be trustworthy, that still doesn't necessarily mean he will benefit from your attempts to help him. A good example would be [[Rocky Shoemaker]], who he considered to be better than a much-needed therapist yet consistently failed to follow just about ''every'' word of advice she gave him, her best efforts to prevent trolling schemes notwithstanding. Going back even further, Chris fondly remembered [[Virginia Jeanine Sanford]] being his favorite middle school teacher, proclaiming her to be "the most influential person of (his) life"<ref>[[October 2017 Facebook posts#Nostalgic for middle school teacher]]</ref> who taught him "better social skills", how to deal with bullies and so forth<ref>[[Gal-Pals and Past Sweethearts (CWCipedia page)]]</ref>. He even kept her parting message advising him how to avoid showing others his "weak points"; and yet, judging by the fact that '''[[CWCki\|this mere wiki]]''' exists, he obviously never took such words to heart.

	In short, as long as your words are not 100% in line with his childlike and egocentric point of view, it's utterly futile to try and help Chris.		In short, as long as your words are not 100% in line with his childlike and egocentric point of view, it's utterly futile to try and help Chris.
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	==Chris as a White Knight==		==Chris as a White Knight==
	In 2017, Chris himself began ~~(attempting)~~ to white knight the crew of [[Planet Dolan]], particularly [[DoopieDoOver]], after he misinterpreted one of Doopie's tweets about being tired of harassment from Chris himself as referring to [[trolls]] harassing her. To this end, he started the #[[HarassCWCdirectly]] campaign in which he exhorted the supposed trolls to take aim at him and leave Doopie and friends alone. This might well have been a misguided effort to [[Love Quest\|win Doopie's affections]] after she emphasized that she considers him nothing more than a customer, not even a [[Gal pal\|friend]]. Eventually, this campaign, combined with his overfamiliar behavior towards her, would earn Chris a block from Doopie later that year.		In 2017, Chris himself began trying to white knight the crew of [[Planet Dolan]], particularly [[DoopieDoOver]], after he misinterpreted one of Doopie's tweets about being tired of harassment from Chris himself as referring to [[trolls]] harassing her. To this end, he started the #[[HarassCWCdirectly]] campaign in which he exhorted the supposed trolls to take aim at him and leave Doopie and friends alone. This might well have been a misguided effort to [[Love Quest\|win Doopie's affections]] after she emphasized that she considers him nothing more than a customer, not even a [[Gal pal\|friend]]. Eventually, this campaign, combined with his overfamiliar behavior towards her, would earn Chris a block from Doopie later that year.

	He also bizarrely white knighted ''himself'' in [[May 2020]] while [[Spirit possession\|LARPing]] as [[Pokémon#Mewtwo\|Mewtwo]], [[Polyamorous marriage\|his second husband]].<ref>[[May 2020 social media posts#Anti-Protoman sperging]]</ref> Note that he did so as a brief interruption of his marathon session of LARPing as [[Sonichu (character)\|Sonichu]].		He also bizarrely white knighted ''himself'' in [[May 2020]] while [[Spirit possession\|LARPing]] as [[Pokémon#Mewtwo\|Mewtwo]], [[Polyamorous marriage\|his second husband]].<ref>[[May 2020 social media posts#Anti-Protoman sperging]]</ref> Note that he did so as a brief interruption of his marathon session of LARPing as [[Sonichu (character)\|Sonichu]].

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	===Chris is beyond your ability to help at this point===		===Chris is beyond your ability to help at this point===
	The trolls that allegedly wanted to teach Chris some unpleasant truths about life, along with previous White Knights who wanted to shield Chris from criticism while genuinely wanting to prepare him for the real world, have consistently come to the conclusion that Chris is simply incorrigible – nothing helpful that anyone says or does has actually stuck with Chris in a long-term capacity, while he is more than willing to pick up more harmful habits. Even [[Null]], the closest person who Chris had to a friend since the trolling began, and was the only advisor that Chris would actually listen to, came to the conclusion that Chris not only refuses to learn anything if it even slightly inconveniences him, but that he is actively malicious and will ignore you or betray your trust if it benefits him. Even medical professionals are believed to have a hard time helping Chris, particularly when considering that Chris was just as delusional after [[Chris and mental healthcare\|three months of time]] in a [[Western State Hospital\|psychiatric hospital]] as he was going in. While Chris is a victim of circumstance, he can only get help if he actually seeks it, and that feels like extremely wishful thinking at this point.		The trolls that allegedly wanted to teach Chris some unpleasant truths about life, along with previous White Knights who wanted to shield Chris from criticism while genuinely wanting to prepare him for the real world, have consistently come to the conclusion that Chris is simply incorrigible – nothing helpful that anyone says or does has actually stuck with Chris in a long-term capacity, while he is more than willing to pick up more harmful habits. Even [[Null]], the closest person who Chris had to a friend since the trolling began, and was the only advisor that Chris would actually listen to, came to the conclusion that Chris not only refuses to learn anything if it even slightly inconveniences him, but that he is actively malicious and will ignore you or betray your trust if it benefits him. Even medical professionals are believed to have a hard time helping Chris, particularly when considering that Chris was just as delusional, if not [[Messiah complex\|more so]], after [[Chris and mental healthcare\|three months of time]] in a [[Western State Hospital\|psychiatric hospital]] as he was going in. While Chris is a victim of circumstance, he can only get help if he actually seeks it, and that feels like extremely wishful thinking at this point.

	===White-Knighting Chris now takes on a completely different connotation===		===White-Knighting Chris now takes on a completely different connotation===
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	===Chris will not even read your message===		===Chris will not even read your message===
	For a long period of time, [[~~Chris_and_manipulation~~#~~Blocking_help~~\|trolls had control over his e-mails]]. Messages sent to him by white knights were often deleted before he could read them. Even back in the days of the [[Mailbag]], any emails submitted to it, if they even got published, would've been [[Mailbag 29\|given one-word replies and ignored]].		For a long period of time, [[Chris and manipulation#Blocking help\|trolls had control over his e-mails]]. Messages sent to him by white knights were often deleted before he could read them. Even back in the days of the [[Mailbag]], any emails submitted to it, if they even got published, would've been [[Mailbag 29\|given one-word replies and ignored]].

	===Being overly nice to Chris might have molded him badly and still does===		===Being overly nice to Chris might have molded him badly and still does===

	Tempting as it is to feel sympathetic for Chris (despite [[Affair With Mother\|certain events]]), doing so would only benefit him for all the wrong reasons. Chris's youth wasn't one without acts of kindness from others, albeit mainly people who were [[Manchester High\|well-meaning yet misguided]] at best or [[Barbara Chandler\|flat-out spoiled him at worst]]. As a result of others generally opting to shield Chris from even the slightest negativity ([[Virginia Jeanine Sanford\|with a few attempts at genuine advice going in one ear and out the other]]), he has grown accustomed to receiving, or expecting to receive, nothing but complete satisfaction with no strings attached from anyone who gives him the time of day.		Tempting as it is to feel sympathetic for Chris (despite [[Affair With Mother\|certain events]]), doing so would only benefit him for all the wrong reasons. Chris's youth wasn't one without acts of kindness from others, albeit mainly people who were [[Manchester High\|well-meaning yet misguided]] at best or [[Barbara Chandler\|flat-out spoiled him at worst]]. As a result of others generally opting to shield Chris from even the slightest negativity ([[Virginia Jeanine Sanford\|with a few attempts at genuine advice going in one ear and out the other]]), he has grown accustomed to receiving, or expecting to receive, nothing but complete satisfaction with no strings attached from anyone who gives him the time of day.

	Not only has it led to Chris's tendency to become hostile to anyone trying to show him the error of his ways (and of course doesn't give him everything he wants), but it has also allowed opportunities for [[enablers]] to entertain his bizarre delusions, only making him worse than he was before his online infamy. To make matters worse, it has even effectively created a paradox where ~~benefitting~~ Chris prevents him from getting what would ''actually'' benefit him (i.e. [[Chris and mental healthcare\|therapeutic aid he needs but refuses]]), so even the best of intentions will ultimately yield no positive results whatsoever.		Not only has it led to Chris's tendency to become hostile to anyone trying to show him the error of his ways (and of course doesn't give him everything he wants), but it has also allowed opportunities for [[enablers]] to entertain his bizarre delusions, only making him worse than he was before his online infamy. To make matters worse, it has even effectively created a paradox where benefiting Chris prevents him from getting what would ''actually'' benefit him (i.e. [[Chris and mental healthcare\|therapeutic aid he needs but refuses]]), so even the best of intentions will ultimately yield no positive results whatsoever.

	===Chris won't ever learn his lesson, no matter what you tell him===		===Chris won't ever learn his lesson, no matter what you tell him===
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	Even ignoring the numerous altercations Chris got into during his [[Love Quest]] (resulting in portraying authorities doing their jobs as [[Jerkop\|one-dimensional]] [[Mary Lee Walsh\|villains]] for him and his league of OCs to triumph over) and the brutally honest tongue-lashing he's received in [[Father Call\|many a]] [[The End For Real\|phone call]], a particularly notable example of a white knight unable to make Chris wake up and smell the coffee was none other than [[Vivian Gee]]. [[Vivitheg's AIM chat\|After '''three hours''' of trying to do just that]], she eventually gave up, understandably equating the experience with "fighting a wall".		Even ignoring the numerous altercations Chris got into during his [[Love Quest]] (resulting in portraying authorities doing their jobs as [[Jerkop\|one-dimensional]] [[Mary Lee Walsh\|villains]] for him and his league of OCs to triumph over) and the brutally honest tongue-lashing he's received in [[Father Call\|many a]] [[The End For Real\|phone call]], a particularly notable example of a white knight unable to make Chris wake up and smell the coffee was none other than [[Vivian Gee]]. [[Vivitheg's AIM chat\|After '''three hours''' of trying to do just that]], she eventually gave up, understandably equating the experience with "fighting a wall".

	Supposing that Chris ''does'' consider you to be trustworthy, that still doesn't necessarily mean he will benefit from your attempts to help him. A good example would be [[Rocky Shoemaker]], who he considered to be better than a much-needed therapist yet consistently failed to follow just about ''every'' word of advice she gave him, her best efforts to prevent trolling schemes notwithstanding. Going back even further, Chris fondly remembered [[Virginia Jeanine Sanford]] being his favorite middle school teacher, proclaiming her to be "the most influential person of (his) life"<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_Facebook_posts#Nostalgic_for_middle_school_teacher</ref> who taught him "better social skills", how to deal with bullies and so forth<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Gal-Pals_and_Past_Sweethearts_(CWCipedia_page)</ref>. He even kept her parting message advising him how to avoid showing others his "weak points" and yet, judging by the fact that '''[[CWCki\|this mere wiki]]''' exists, he obviously never took such words to heart.		Supposing that Chris ''does'' consider you to be trustworthy, that still doesn't necessarily mean he will benefit from your attempts to help him. A good example would be [[Rocky Shoemaker]], who he considered to be better than a much-needed therapist yet consistently failed to follow just about ''every'' word of advice she gave him, her best efforts to prevent trolling schemes notwithstanding. Going back even further, Chris fondly remembered [[Virginia Jeanine Sanford]] being his favorite middle school teacher, proclaiming her to be "the most influential person of (his) life"<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/October_2017_Facebook_posts#Nostalgic_for_middle_school_teacher</ref> who taught him "better social skills", how to deal with bullies and so forth<ref>https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Gal-Pals_and_Past_Sweethearts_(CWCipedia_page)</ref>. He even kept her parting message advising him how to avoid showing others his "weak points"; and yet, judging by the fact that '''[[CWCki\|this mere wiki]]''' exists, he obviously never took such words to heart.

	In short, as long as your words are not 100% in line with his childlike and egocentric point of view, it's utterly futile to try and help Chris.		In short, as long as your words are not 100% in line with his childlike and egocentric point of view, it's utterly futile to try and help Chris.