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(The stuff about 28 October is really distracting, this page shouldn't be to document every single counter argument to every A-Logesque criticism of Chris, but just so people get the gist of it.)
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==Arguments against A-Logs==
==Arguments against A-Logs==
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While Chris is far from perfect, there are those who believe that he is not exactly deserving of harm or extreme abuse that A-Logs would call for. This is reminiscent of the divided opinions in regards to [[BlueSpike]] and his style of trolling, with many disapproving of his extreme methods, but some who want a return to those more sadistic times.
While Chris is far from perfect, there are those who believe that he is not exactly deserving of harm or extreme abuse that A-Logs would call for. This is reminiscent of the divided opinions in regards to [[BlueSpike]] and his style of trolling, with many disapproving of his extreme methods, but some who want a return to those more sadistic times.
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Most people can recoginize their own faults and try to cope with them. Chris can not.
Most people can recoginize their own faults and try to cope with them. Chris can not.
== '''Chris & the October 28 Incident: The Other Side of the Story''' ==
Nobody would seriously argue about Chris having the inalienable right to go back into Cville's Hobbies Games and Toys and making a further nuisance of himself to staff and customers alike.
However, it’s important to place some perspective (regarding this particular incident) on what Chris is and what he isn’t. Christian may be a fat whiny manchild who walks around in poopy underwear but Chris Chan isn’t a badass street hood who came into Snyder’s store wearing a ski mask and brandishing a sawed off shotgun or a Saturday night special. Chris walked into the store with his mother by mistake thinking Michael Snyder was gone and a new owner had taken over. Chris was hiding behind his mother when he saw that Michael Snyder was still in charge.
Was it inappropriate for Chris to whip out his digital camera and take Synder’s picture? Without a doubt. But this wasn't a physical confrontation that Chris was after. It was psychological (i.e. a war of nerves). Viewed from this perspective,his digital camera was his "weapon of choice" and this was a window of opportunity to finally one up ole Snyder and make an ass out of him by uploading his photo onto the internet. For all the huffing and puffing he did on YouTube, Chris was well-aware that if push came to shove in a physical confrontation with his arch-nemesis,Snyder would have relished the opportunity to kick his ass.
From Snyder's point of view, the camera incident was pretty much the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back which may have accounted at least in part why Snyder followed him out to the parking lot and tried to block him from leaving. Another valid consideration was that Michael Snyder was attempting what one would call a "citizens arrest".
== Did Chris Try to "Run Snyder Over"? ==
While it is almost knee-jerk reaction for many people to think that he attempted to do so this simply doesn't square with the facts. According to Chris's eyewitness account, it wasn't Chris who was controlling the steering wheel.
It was Barbara who was trying to back out and get out of the parking lot while Michael Snyder tried blocking her efforts by first standing in front of, then in back of the car. With Barbara most likely in panic mode and not thinking straight from Snyder blocking her, it was almost inevitable what would happen.
At any rate the confrontation escalated with other (Cville's Hobbies Games and Toys) staff after Michael was hit and Barbara used Chris's cellphone to call 911. It is unclear what personal injuries Michael Snyder suffered or whether Barbara may have banged into another car while trying to get away.
== Why Didn't Chris and Barbara Get Out of the Car and Render Assistance? ==
Technically speaking, it would have been the right thing to do and under the law, he was obligated to do so. From Chris's perspective, neither of them were about to get out of the car and possibly risk coming to blows with Michael Snyder or angry staff members. While a person does indeed have the right to make a citizen's arrest under Virginia law, this right has to be exercised with some discretion. A citizen's arrest is only permitted when witnessing a felony, it is not permitted in the case of a misdemeanor. And let's be perfectly frank for a moment, there are better ways to witness that you're the brighter bulb in the chandelier than standing in front of a getaway car when it's your arch-nemesis behind the steering wheel.


==External links==
==External links==
*[http://encyclopediadramatica.se/Anthony_%27A-Log%27_LoGatto Anthony "A-Log" LoGatto on Encyclopedia Dramatica]
*[http://encyclopediadramatica.se/Anthony_%27A-Log%27_LoGatto Anthony "A-Log" LoGatto on Encyclopedia Dramatica]
*[http://logattopedia.wikinet.org/wiki/Main_Page Logattopedia]
*[http://logattopedia.wikinet.org/wiki/Main_Page Logattopedia]

Revision as of 20:12, 30 July 2012

Anthony "A-Log" LoGatto was a YouTube commentator known for his commentaries on Chris videos and harshly criticizing Chris while having many faults similar to Chris himself.
A-Logging in a nutshell. You don't even need to watch the video in question, the title and thumbnail is quite enough, thank you very much.

A-Logging is a term used to describe the practice of those who follow Chris who wish to inflict harm upon him, often physical, and often for perceived "crimes" that Chris is "guilty" of. Those who follow this practice are known as A-Logs. A-Logs are an opposite extreme to white knights, whereas white knights try to defend Chris from trolls and help him to improve his situation, A-Logs hold the belief that Chris is beneath contempt and deserving of whatever scorn and harm he is subjected to and then some. While once fashionable, it has become a view associated with people who wish to "trollshield" themselves and therefore is looked down by the greater CWC community.

The term originates from Anthony "A-Log" LoGatto, a YouTube commentator who is known for providing commentary on Chris's videos, and often goes on about how Chris is an awful person (and how he, A-Log, is better) and wishes harm to be inflicted on him. It was this practice, among other things (including his own similarities to Chris himself), that led to A-Log becoming a trolling subject himself, and the inspiration of this very page.

Motivations

There are a few motivations which are common in A-Logs, as they are the motivations behind the original A-Log's commentaries.

Justification for trolling Chris

Some would argue that it is sinister and just plain wrong to mock a mentally deficient person such as Chris. As a result, some people justify trolling him by arguing that he is, in fact, a bad person who "deserves" to be trolled. One common argument is that "Chris gives autistics a bad name." Others will appeal to his debatable racism, homophobia, or sexism as excuses to troll Chris. By establishing that Chris is a bad person, it seems to justify that Chris not only deserves the treatment he currently receives, but also deserves physical and/or psychological harm inflicted on him.

Trollshielding

Often times, those who "A-Log" do so to "trollshield" or avoid becoming troll victims as well. These people tend to have many traits in common with Chris - they too are autistic, still live at home, have trouble with women, or are fixated on childish things. Some are perhaps even worse off than Chris. However, A-Logs will argue that they are "at least not like Chris" and are fervent in their urge to troll Chris so people don't troll them themselves. Often times, as in the case of the original A-Log this backfires and they find themselves becoming the subject of trolls.

Arguments against A-Logs

While Chris is far from perfect, there are those who believe that he is not exactly deserving of harm or extreme abuse that A-Logs would call for. This is reminiscent of the divided opinions in regards to BlueSpike and his style of trolling, with many disapproving of his extreme methods, but some who want a return to those more sadistic times.

Chris is not Hitler

Chris is not an utterly despicable person who is guilty of "crimes" that must be punished. Hitler was responsible for the death of over 6 million Jews, plus millions of other political dissidents in the years before and during World War II. Chris is just an idiot who spends his time playing vidya. While he is quite prone to rage and has a noted tendency to threaten people with violence and death, is it generally understood that Chris is not competent enough to actually carry out any threats. Except, of course, within the world of Sonichu and CWCville, which hardly counts.

Legal Liability

Perhaps the best reason against A-Logging is the legal liability (i.e. being charged and possibly convicted of stalking, terroristic threats, assault, or any other possible charges that could be filed against someone). Whatever feelings a person may have against Christian Weston Chandler, there is no legal defense for someone taking the law into their own hands and subsequently ending up with a possible life-altering felony conviction.

Chris's racism and homophobia

While his views on race and homosexuality are not politically correct, they hardly seem to suggest Chris is an amoral monster. Chris's discomfort for black people, while not poltiically correct, is arguably more from failing to understand social norms, in that you don't announce to the world you're discomforted by African-Americans, rather than of the ideology of white supremacy that your average KKK member would have. Chris has no history of actually going out and lynching blacks or other minorities that discomfort him. The closest he has come to that was picking on the black kids that frequented The GAMe PLACe and acting like they wanted to steal from him, and using "Jew" as a pejorative against Michael Snyder, who Chris inaccurately believes to be Jewish. His only real grievance, if you can call it that, is that non-white women don't fit his ideal vision of a sweetheart, which he constantly fails to properly articulate.

In regards to his homophobia, while his reasons are ill-informed at best, Chris is a rather ordinary person who is discomforted by homosexuals. He is not the Westboro Baptist Church which is engaged in a massive campaign against homosexuals using inflammatory language, nor is he head of a power-lobbying group against LBGT individuals in Washington. Once again, Chris is just an idiot who plays PS3 all day.

The tugboat

Some A-Logs content that Chris is a bad person because he "steals" taxpayer money. What is almost always overlooked by A-Logs who make this claim is that it wasn’t Chris who applied for social security disability; it was his father who applied for Chris and it was the him who convinced Chris he would make more off of disability than working at a minimum wage job. Realistically, Chris didn’t have any say in the matter because Bob held all the purse strings when it came to Chris having food, shelter and clothing.

So why doesn’t Chris get off his “lazy butt and earn his keep”? Well because there are a couple of very difficult barriers that stand in his way that many A-Loggers simply don’t take into consideration.

First, there is the bureaucratic red tape and regulations involved in someone who is on disability working full-time. Ironically, it isn’t Chris sitting around playing video games day after day receiving a government check that would likely get him in trouble for disability fraud, it would be working full-time at a minimum wage job while still getting a disability check that would get him in trouble. In addition, there is no way of knowing what Bob’s reaction might have been to having Chris’s disability check discontinued.

Second, there is the issue of lack of preparation in independent living skills as well as well as the lack of coaching in finding a job and being able to keep it. Moreover, given Chris’s rather infamous reputation by people who have documented every unsavory aspect of his life, it would more likely than not take someone working in human services or in the employment field (that has extremely strong networking and connections) and a job coach (on a long-term basis) to convince a skeptical employer to give Chris a realistic chance at successfully finding and keeping a job. In addition, given Chris's rap sheet, even under ideal circumstances Chris's chances at decent employment may be slim at best. Although no convictions have been pronounced, charges Chris has been subject to may deter potential employers, regardless of his ability to perform to tasks they set him. While it may sound attractive to the uninformed to "kick his ass" when it comes to Chris working, in reality there are deep-seated issues that go way beyond the expertise of a few trolls, and no amount of A-Logging can change this.

Chris is Incredibly Gullible

Chris is not mentally retarded as defined by medical standards. His IQ is within normal range. What trips him up is his lack of "street smarts" or common sense. He actually believed an attractive celebrity was interested in him sexually and that he was talking to her. He still insists that he's had many sweethearts, all very attractive women, and doesn't find it curious that they suddenly die or disappear. He is an easy mark, not a criminal mastermind.

While you are probably going to go to hell for laughing at an epic lolcow, relax - everyone has their vice, for some it's smoking, others it's consorting with loose women, for us it's generating lulz at everybody's favorite pigeon. You do not need to justify it by arguing that Chris is a bad person who deserves to be trolled. One need only to see the fate of the original A-Log to see the potential consequences of that course of action.

Most people can avoid the trolls

Chris does share traits with a lot of people, and some of these traits are quite disturbing and embarrassing. It's a fair assumption that a lot of people who are following Chris's antics are unemployed videogamer losers, for example. A lot of people have seen Chris and uttered "finally, here's someone who's far more pathetic than I am".

But these traits, in itself, don't make you trollable. They may make you subject to ridicule, but it's an altogether different matter how you respond to that ridicule. You may give the people who laugh at you a mature response – laugh along with them at your own admitted faults, or just let the unwarranted criticism be what it is. Trolls certainly aren't interested in productive debate.

Or you can be like Chris and get BLANGRY at every traitorous troll under lucricrities, which is exactly what the trolls want.

Most people can recoginize their own faults and try to cope with them. Chris can not.

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