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==Upload page==
== Champ, I mean it now ==
Thank you sir, your change is much appreciated. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 12:43, 20 December 2009 (CET)
When I come on here and see that people like [[User talk:Steve Landcleamer|this mouthbreather]] have been fucking with pages while being told not to and spamming pictures of furry porn that we for some reason allow on here, and yet I have the power to neither delete the image or ban the sperg, it cuts me deep. I'm on here often enough and I've already contributed a lot to the wiki. Can you throw some Jerkop powers my way so I can sort this shit out in future? We don't have nearly enough active mods and this place seems to have this kind of shit all the time. I mean this seriously Champ, I think the CWCki could benefit a lot from more Jerkops. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:09, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
:Before you answer him, Champ, keep in mind that I've also been here a long time and am also actively contributing; so if you decided to give Old meme jerkop rights, I sure would appreciate receiving them as well. Just saying. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 09:24, 20 April 2012 (PDT)


==Sonichu Franchise Games==
*You both make good points. Could you point out the furry image though, the only image I've seen by him is that picture of Chris ejaculating on Anna's face, which I've incidentally deleted because I don't think it really improves the Anna article. Anyways, about quality in general - I've discussed this issue with Anonymax, and this goes for the both of you, that as regular users you have all the tools needed to improve the quality of the CWCki. If there's an incidence such as an edit war going on, you're welcome to ask any of the admins to step in to resolve the issue. For these reasons, I don't think it's needed to add more jerkops or admins for these reasons. However, if it ever got out of control, then I would consider making someone a quality control jerkop to enforce quality standards. However, I think for the most part you all have the tools you need, just keep making good edits and reverting shit like you have been doing and I think that should be sufficient.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:11, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
**He's probably talking about [[:Image:Sonichu.jpg|this picture]], which was spammed on [[CWCki:Privacy policy]]. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 23:46, 20 April 2012 (PDT)


How about this:  [[User:Dude/Sonichu_Franchise_Games]]
== Deletion of Fail; Effects ==


...replace these:
Would it be necessary to organize a project of some kind to remove red "fail" pipes from pages across the CWCki? --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 11:27, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
*[[Sonichu (game)]]
*[http://www.sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Fail&limit=500 Here they all are]. Clean them at your leisure. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 11:57, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
*[[John's Custom Gundam: Sisterly Rescue]]
:[[User:Anonybot|Anonybot]] is working on it. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 14:41, 23 April 2012 (PDT)
*[[Pokémon:_Lightning_Version]]
*[[Sonichu_Adventure]]
*[[Sonichu_Advance]]
*[[EX-CWC]]
--[[User:Dude|Dude]] 05:47, 22 December 2009 (CET)


==Chris's First Interview==
Fail article deleted, stupid page names corrected, Champ finally got around to deleting the furry porn. It's been a good week. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:39, 24 April 2012 (PDT)
I noticed on [[Talk:Chris-chan_Discusses...]] you asked for someone to mirror Chris's first interview on Youtube. I know that was a while back, <s>but as far as I can tell no one has actually done it yet</s>, so I went ahead and did it for you [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U-4Mvc5LbM]. I hope you're pleased. --[[User:That Man|That Man]] 23:10, 27 December 2009 (CET)
*At least SOMEONE is happy.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:18, 25 April 2012 (PDT)
*just noticed a while ago that it's aleardy been uploaded by The CWCville Library. I have no clue how I was so oblivious to that. --[[User:That Man|That Man]] 03:26, 28 December 2009 (CET)
:*I didn't notice this either, thank you for telling me about this though and I appreciate your effort anyways.
:*Also can't seem to find it on the CWCvilleLibrary...could you possibly post a link?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:49, 28 December 2009 (CET)


==Thanks, Champthom==
==Why did you delete the article on Kim?==
<nowiki>:)</nowiki> --[[User:GokuGetEm|GokuGetEm]] 09:53, 31 December 2009 (CET)
She is as notable as any of the gal pals, and all the info IS public, coming from the Kacey calls.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:03, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know the Kim from the Kacey calls is the same Kim Wilson? Kim is a fairly common name. You're also assuming a lot of things, like Kim is ScarletSanctum when you have no proof of that, and you're including a lot of things that are rumors like how some apology video was because Kim was upset. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:04, 4 May 2012 (PDT)


==New Hotness for Videos==
*1. Chris states her name is Kim Wilson in one of the Kacey calls.
Take a look at this template for videos that [[User:NeoShadow]] made; it's really sweet. It can wrap around videos (in the middle of the page, where they are now) or it can be used as a sidebar.
*2. ScarletSanctum is Kim's youtube handle, as stated in [[SingStar Challenge]].
*3. Chris addresses in that video that he upset Kim and Kacey with the previous video.


*Template:  [[Template:Infobox/video]]
And if the name was an issue why not just redirect the page to "Kim"?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:17, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know that ScarletSanctum is Kim? Does Chris explicitly mention it? Also does Chris specifically say Kim in that video in that it upset her? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:23, 4 May 2012 (PDT)


*Centered example:  [[User:Neoshadow/sandbox/Sonic_Sweepstakes]]
Chris does explicitly mention it. Look at this dialouge in [[Kacey Call 1]]:
*Chris: Yeah. So you know uh, Kim, you know uh, how she, uh, yeah you know, uh, Kim, I actually heard that Kim and her friend Logan actually live in the Charlton area close to the downtown mall, you know? So if you ever wanted to look her up and, you know, just talk to her, you know, find about more about the impostor for me, or you know, see what her opinion of me is on the Internet from her point of view...
*Kacey: Oh, you want me to do some undercover stuff? Chris, that is so sweet of you! You know how much I wanted to get involved.
*Chris: Oh yeah, sure. You know that ScarletSanctum account? That's hers.
*Kacey: Okay, no, I will totally, totally message her. It's Kim Woods, you said?
*Chris: No, Kim Wilson. Totally. Message her, talk to her all about me.


*Sidebar example: [[User:Neoshadow/sandbox/Sonic_Sweepstakes2]]
As far as making the video in response to offending Kim, he also implicitly states this:


Thoughts?  It's been on the [[CWCki:Priority_Listing|to do list]] for a while now, and we could get one or the other in place pretty quickly. The big question is which placement to use, and general style questions vis-a-vis the way it looks. Let us know!  --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 09:43, 3 January 2010 (CET)
"Uh, I dedicate this video to uh, Logan. Boyfriend of my gal-pal, Kim. Yeah, anyway uh, I've--I just wanted to uh, apologize for uh...offending you in anyway"
*I really like it, but there was some debate (I need to see where) over the usage of video infoboxes, as some people argued it's unnecessarily replicates information one can gleam from the article. However, I think your centered example might solve that as this is ultimately what we can use to replace just pasting the video in Video sections of articles. I think the "Made by" would be useless in 99% of situations (with the very few videos made by other people, such as the Watch and Win one, or the videos by Scarlet). Personally I like your infoboxes, but I'm not sure if everyone else likes it elsewhere.
:Best I'd do is mention this in the [[CWCki:Community_Portal|community portal]]. As I said, I think your centered example might be very useful and a nicer display than just a YouTube video in the video section. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:11, 3 January 2010 (CET)
*This add-on is useless and redundant if you ask me. There's nothing new here you can't read in the introduction of the video, in the video navigation bar and I don't see the need for the "Festive" icons. I respect the efforts but I am a K.I.S.S.-Type of guy. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 15:02, 3 January 2010 (CET)


==IMPOSTORS==
He could also be referring to offending Logan, but either way why through the baby out with the bathwater?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 23:35, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
*Let me think about it. In the meantime, I've made a [[User:Steve Landcleamer/Kim|subpage]] for you in the meantime.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:39, 4 May 2012 (PDT)


Hey Champ, this is the "dude" from the old CWCki... somebody claimed my nick in the three hours between Cogs fixing the captcha and me checking back in =(  Is there anything we can do about this?  I can still log into the old CWCki to prove my TRUTH and HONESTY, and I used the same email signing up here (this account) and there (the old "dude").  --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 05:12, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
So is there any hold up or is the page good to go? I've answered all your questions and it seems to meet all the requirements.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:32, 5 May 2012 (PDT)
*I'll consult with Cogs later tonight, as I'm not sure if we can kick this other "Dude" off and have you have his nickname, especially given that it's an extremely generic name someone could have chosen (like Anonymous or Nobody or some name like that) or if we can do this, if it is right in doing so. Now I am concerned that people might try to leech off the fame of others by signing up for accounts of previous CWCki users, either to jump start their e-fame or as a way of trolling, so I'll need a second opinion. If anyone wants to weigh in on the matter, by all means do so. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 10:57, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
*Don't you think it might be a little bit imprudent to make a page about Kim?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:58, 5 May 2012 (PDT)
**Yeah, it's pretty generic, but at the same time, I only signed up around October, so it wasn't generic enough to be taken by then.  I am kind of surprised that somebody snapped it up so quickly, since I was pretty actively trying to get it back myself.  I suppose it could be innocent, but it's still kind of frustrating.  Thanks for looking into it.  --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 14:52, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
can you give him the account back. i didn't know. i didnt think dude was gona be available, i though i got lucky. didnt mean to steal it, ill make another one [[User:Dude|Dude]] 00:26, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
*No problem Dude (see what I did there?). Okay, here's how this will go down - new Dude, when you get a new account, AIM or message me in IRC when you do. I will merge your current account into your new one. That will free up the username "Dude" and old Dude can register that way. rpoblem oslved. If there's any problems, you guys let me know because then I have to resort to Plan B. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:36, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
*New [[User:Dude|Dude]] has been [[Special:Contributions/Dude|inactive]] for about a week now... can I get my account back? --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 17:49, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
:*The new Dude needs to contact me so I can merge his old account into the new one, thus freeing up "Dude." If he doesn't respond in 24 hours or so, then contact me and I'll reset the password and give it over to you. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:57, 10 January 2010 (UTC)


== I'll not take this treachery sitting down! ==
*Why would it be imprudent? All the information is public and sourced. All the other gal pals have pages, so what would the problem be?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 18:37, 5 May 2012 (PDT)


You dare claim superiority over my powers as a great and terrifying wizard!? You shall soon see the error of your ways, good sir Champthom.  I am a vengeful spellcaster, and I will rape you furiously in your sleep. [[User:Artiph|Artiph the Destroyer, Omniscient Archmage, bearer of the Grimoire of Destruction, whose powers by and large surpass that of the Great Wizard CrassCrab, Lord of the Seven Realm and Master of the Archane Black Arts of the Eleventh Trans-Dimensional Vortex]] 11:03, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
*Well?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:39, 7 May 2012 (PDT)
*Good God, first learn some patience, this isn't a life and death issue. Second of all, let me put it this way - in your own words, the supposed Kim calls are unreleased. Why do you think that is?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:18, 8 May 2012 (PDT)


==Sup==
Because "she"'s obviously still trying to troll Chris. Regardless, that's beside the point, while the calls haven't been released, all the information in the article has. You initially deleted it under the guise that is was "Not notable, not based on public information", but we both know that that's clearly not the cause. My page seemed to meet all the guidelines, so based on Cwicki guidelines, what is objectionable about it?
Have a job for me?  You told me to get in touch... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 19:38, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
*Well I was going to ask you to help upload images but people got onto that which is good.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:57, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
:*Coolio.  On Another note, don't bother restoring my Jerkop status. I don't need it now seeing as how images have a MUCH higher ceiling. I'll stick around to improve articles and help people with images if they need it.  --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 10:02, 8 January 2010 (UTC)


==SPECIAL MISSION==
I'm sorry if I seem impatient, I just find this quelling of already public information to be pretty ridiculous and counter productive to the CWCki.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 14:43, 8 May 2012 (PDT)
I accept.  Should I simply sign up for an account on Asperpedia and get started or what? --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 09:19, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
*Based on my discussions with Canine and Anonymax, I have decided to restore the article. Remember, the CWCki is form Chris's POV so Kim isn't a troll, she has not publicly declared herself to be a troll to Chris. I'd also avoid posting on /cwc/ and CWCki Forums when you make an article on a delicate topic like this.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:09, 11 May 2012 (PDT)
*Yeah, do that - sign up for an Asperpedia account and go zap to the extreme. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:17, 12 January 2010 (UTC)


==Just to let you know==
===If I may step in and say a piece===
I know I may not be towing the party line by saying this Champ, but Land has a point here. This is all information that was technically on the wiki anyway, just in out of the way places. Personally, I have no problem with covering things up for trolling purposes, because I understand the need to do so and I'm not one to whine about dang dirty stonecutters, but we have information on Kim here already. I don't care which side of the fence you're on Champ, I'll just go with what you say, but you've got to at least be consistent. Either allow the article outright, or if you object to some of the content in the article being made public, censor it and then allow the censored version to be posted. Your decision is final and no-one would be able to stop you, so I don't know what you're worried about. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:22, 9 May 2012 (PDT)
*True, I realize this, but the issue is that there's a good reason that Kim doesn't already have an article, mostly for [[A_Quick_Guide_to_CWCki#Privacy|privacy reasons]] which is indeed already covered. I'm trying to convey that subtly. Remember, Chris reads the CWCki, and loose lips sink ships. I don't think "we" released the Kacey calls, Canine tells me it was all dropped by Liquid's twin brother so it's not like we were able to filter through everything to see if anything was objectionable.


There's a new user who registered under the name ChristianWestonChandler. I am watching this account since it came online. I just don't get a good feeling about this. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 07:00, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
:This is a difficult decision and I need to discuss it with Canine a bit more, unfortunately we have conflicting schedules so I'll try and catch him tonight.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:31, 9 May 2012 (PDT)


==Chris's POV==
*Thank you for restoring the Kim article. I am wondering something concerning what you said about the cwicki supposed to be from Chris's point of view. Why do articles like [[Obesity]] state that Chris is fat? He's said multiple times that he does not think he is. There are lots of other examples like this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 17:07, 11 May 2012 (PDT)


==Apologies==
[[Chris and reality]] would be the best example of this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 18:13, 11 May 2012 (PDT)
::We go by what Chris thinks/says unless we have decent evidence to the contrary. With his obesity, we have more than enough evidence to support this. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 01:04, 12 May 2012 (PDT)


Thank you for fixing that mistake, that was the first time I added a template so I really am horrible at it. --[[User:Hieghts503|Hieghts503]] 5:05 20 January 2010 (CET)
==Permanently Banned from Message Board==
I really don't understand this at all. Please respond to the email I sent you.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 16:21, 6 May 2012 (PDT)


== Chris's resume ==
Never mind one of the other mods took care of this.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:39, 7 May 2012 (PDT)


Would you please be so kind as to move this to [[Chris's résumé]] for the sake of more accurate spelling, and to satisfy the grammar nazi in me? If you don't know how to make the fancy és, just copy and paste mine. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 04:22, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
I have a similar problem and would like to be unbanned. [[User:Negi Springfield|Negi Springfield]] 23:23, 9 July 2012 (PDT)
*Also, please to be deleting [[Chris and fame]]. Broken redirect. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 20:15, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
*I'm guessing you got banned for being a sperglord, but what's your username?--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:12, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
I was banned due to 789chan having a thread on me during one of their CWC dry spells. I went by Negi Springfield, so not much different from what I'm using right now. [[User:Negi Springfield|Negi Springfield]] 17:01, 10 July 2012 (PDT)


== A new Mailbag bombing==
I would also like to be unbanned from the message board. [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 00:29, 7 August 2012 (PDT)
Well, our dear Christian has now started giving a copy paste reply as his new method of rejection. And hes done it to Mike Jackson's widow. We had a quick discussion about that in the talk page, and we thought it'd be an idea for another mailbag thats just filled entirely with letters about this one subject. Like how we had a whole mailbag asking about Asperchu and stuff like that? I thought we could have another of those; Only this time have an entire mailbag of people calling him out for being such a prick and for still not properly ansewing letters. What do you think Champ? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 18:59, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
*You've had two threads about you on /cwc/ plus you've sperged about your "comic." No, you're not getting unbanned.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:44, 7 August 2012 (PDT)


* To amend that idea, I suggest having Sysop inform him of another pending legal issue that can only be averted if he gives full replies to each email--he can't use the "Inputed" response or delete the whole thing and replace it with a general response or else the site goes down again or something.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 19:32, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
There was never a single warning I had received from any board moderator regarding personal attacks or violating message board policy.  If my posts were so terrible, it only stands to reason that your moderators would have jumped in. Aren’t they the watchdogs of the message board?


* Agreed. We need some sort of cover from him rejecting it in any way. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:56, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
What exactly is your justification for permanently banning people who have been mentioned on 789Chan? [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 07:22, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
*There is a clear rule about over sperging and if there's a /cwc/ thread about you, odds are you've sperged too much. My moderators are often too lax when it comes to this sort of thing, which is why I step in. I don't need to warn you, you should know better, if you have autism that you choose not to treat that is not my fault. And my rationale? If you've got a thread about you on /cwc/, me banning you is the least of your concerns. In fact, I am doing a favor by preventing you from digging yourself deeper in a hole. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:42, 8 August 2012 (PDT)


== [[Politics]] ==
Champ this is right from the CWCki about “Sperging”
“The CWCki forums highly recommended place to discuss anything about Chris to your heart's content. This board was created in response to the growing demand for a place where people could discuss anything without fear of violating CWCki's strict talk page policies”


Please to be deleting. Broken redirect. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 01:11, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
As far as sperging about my comic that was in reference to critiquing Chris’ art style


== Sandy Rosechu ==
I mentioned there were open source graphics programs such as GIMP that were completely free to download. I brought up the fact that he could spend a little bit of his tugboat on reference works with royalty free manga stock images and copyright would not be an issue.


Any idea why [[Sandy Rosechu]] is showing up in [[:Category:Templates]]? [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 22:17, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
As for a few of the other topics that I started that probably sperged?
*Fixed it.  The Squote template didn't have noinclude wrapped around its category. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:21, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Are we being unfair to Chris in judging him?
**That was my fault. --[[User:Mikhail Faulken|Mikhail Faulken]] 22:24, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Would you hire Chris if he was genuinely seeking employment?
Do you think that Chris and Barbara were intimate with each other?
If Chris decided to charge $250 for a for two day visit at his house and a no holds barred interview, would you take him up on it?


== halp ==
The board moderator(s) that I observed that wanted to put in their two cents worth joined right in on the debates:  They had no issues with this. You mentioned the board moderators were too lax.  I disagree. They were doing their job.


Yo [[Scampers|Champers]], could you derete this page here: http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/Template:Christory/March_07 ? It will be confus if it doesn't turn up as a red link. Sorry for mistake. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 15:00, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Let me share something with you: When that thread started about me around the beginning of January on 789chan and I was permanently banned: I monitored that thread every day. They went back and looked at my posts. Do you want to know what their reaction was?  


== YO! ==
They were baffled on why I was being banned. They didn’t bust my chops because of what I posted in the forum. What got the thread off the ground was a personal attack on 789Chan over a Beiber troll on my YouTube channel that came back and bit me in the ass. Was it a moment of stupidity that I regretted? Yup.


Champ old boy, do you have sauce on [[:File:CWCinDailyProgressJuly142007.jpg|this]] here sniplet? It must have slipped right past me, and now I want to know what it is! [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 02:09, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Have I been brought up twice on 789Chan? No. I’d say 5 to 10 times is more of a realistic estimate. It wasn’t sperging that brought me up on 789Chan. It was curiosity about my YouTube channel (which has been around for years) and more recently my website. [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 20:31, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
*Why do you want to go back on the forum so bad? It's kinda sad that you're going to all this trouble. Seriously, move on dude, talk about Chris on /cwc/, see how that goes. Hell, go to [[User:Slimz|Slimz's]] forum. Or start your own. Why do you want to go back on the forum so much? The point is that you give us unwanted attention and I have enough trouble maintaining the forum's reputation as it is.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:15, 9 August 2012 (PDT)
'''NOTE''' slimz forum is no longer active, never really was. Slimz would like to be reinstated in the forums as well :) i have bene here editing for a while ban was like a year ago. [[User:Slimz|slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐]] 13:14, 9 August 2012 (PDT)
*Most of your edits are shit, plus what you do here has no bearing on the forums. You are the reason why everyone on /cwc/ thinks we're all A-Logs, there is no fucking way you're going back on the forum. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:35, 9 August 2012 (PDT)


==Jerkops Anonymous==
I just took off my last reply. I'm not going to worry about this anymore. Do whatever you want. [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 22:46, 10 August 2012 (PDT)
*What was the username you had on the forum? I've thought about it and I think I might just let you back on.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:14, 11 August 2012 (PDT)


Hey, Champthom. I've been in the mood to move a page or two recently, but my jerkop privileges were abolished with the move to CWCki 2.0. Would you mind reinstating them? [[User:Llort|Llort]] 03:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
My username was Kengel1021 [[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 16:04, 18 August 2012 (PDT)  


== Cole Smithey ==
Thank you Champ. I am not sure what the policy for reentry is upon a ban lift under these circumstances so I have registered a new account(YippoBlippo)for the forums.--[[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 16:23, 9 September 2012 (PDT)


Don't you think an edit like [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Z_%28film%29&diff=prev&oldid=344566166 this] seems too intentional to be an impostor? Never mind 30+ edits to the Cole Smithey article? [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 18:13, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
== Comms ==
==Re: Pic of Wallflower==
Is this ok? It was shopped and It looks less like a man
[[Image:ClydeandLovelyweather.jpg|thumb|right]]


-[[User:Psycatalyst|Psycatalyst]] 04:02, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm on IRC a lot and today is my day off work so if you're around so am I! --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 02:19, 11 May 2012 (PDT)


== Posse ==  
== can I help? ==
Hey I have a capture card that does 720p,1800p,ect and wanted to know if I could use it to help (lbp videos,screen shots) does anything need to be rerecorded? also I'm moving soon so if you could say something in the next week or so (before I have to pack my computer up) that would be great. [[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]] 09:14, 1 June 2012 (PDT)
* Sorry it took a day to get back to you, just had to think as I do appreciate your gumption. To be honest though, I can't think of anything in particular, BUT that's just to the best of my knowledge. Head over to [[CWCki:General|the community portal]] and ask there, there might be some people to have some ideas. Just do me one teensy favor - be sure to sign your posts (that's four ~ in a row) so we know who you are when you post. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:29, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
* thanks! [[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]] 09:14, 1 June 2012 (PDT)


Champ, I don't know if you still need monitors, but I have no life and lurk on the CWCki pretty much all day. Hit me up if you need me. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 04:06, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
==Bruce Johnson==
*NO U. Srsly, contact me on AIM or IRC tonight. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:07, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
The Bruce Johnson thing is real. I don't even care about the PVCC anymore. I just want you to know I'm not making up what I added to the cwicki. Would you like a wider screenshot of the facebook convo?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 19:26, 20 June 2012 (PDT)
*How do you know it's the real Bruce Johnson? Or rather, why should we trust you? I could easily have made a Bruce Johnson account to fool you. Even if it is real, do we really need it? All it boils down to is Johnson saying he's not a pedophile contrary to what Chris said. Is this really a startling revelation, that Chris said something negative about someone and it's not true? Do we really need to confirm this, in light of Chris's history? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:36, 20 June 2012 (PDT)
*'Sup bitches, guess who's back? Champy, thought I'd drop in to tell you that under the "no shit is too minor" policy, (which you should really get rid of if it enrages you so), we do indeed need to confirm everything if possible. That said this is still probably bullshit, and confirming this still isn't your job. If you want my two cents, give Landcleamer a chance to convince you of its authenticity at least. I'm sure you have high standards for what you'd accept as convincing proof, so either someone else will go out of their way to contribute something valid, or he can fail to do so and you can say no again. Worst case scenario, Steve Landcleamer turns out to be the weenest of ween trolls and goes through a lot of work to convince you of something fairly inconsequential that can be removed if it later turns out to be fake anyway. The way I see it, this isn't a real problem for you either way. Let the monkey dance. Also, your insulting summaries were hilarious. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 02:12, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
:*I forgot to add in the summary that our friend Steve here wanted to be let into PVCC on the basis of this "startling" revelation. As I've said before, "no shit is too minor" should mean that we don't overlook things, not that we need to get third party confirmation on everything. Anyone who's familiar with Chris knows that his memory isn't totally accurate and he's been known to bullshit. Given that Chris has called Michael Synder a Jew, does this mean we have to contact Michael Synder and confirm whether or not he is a Jew? Do we need to contact Mary Lee Walsh to make sure she's not in fact secretly a witch planning on banning true love from Virginia? It should be pretty obvious that Johnson probably isn't a pedophile, and what does his admission of not being a pedophile say? He could be lying for all we know, I'm not saying he's a pedophile, he probably isn't, but his admission of not being a pedophile shouldn't be startling. I mean, did you expect him to say "Chris got me, I'm a kiddy piddler, I love little boys and molesting them as they sit on my lap and I do horrible profane things to them." Of course the answer is "no," why do we need to have confirmation of this?
::As I've said before, I don't like people bothering Chris tangentially related to Chris about stuff. I think having known Chris is punishment enough, it doesn't help to have epic ween trolls like Steve here think they're gonna get into PVCC on the basis of harassing these people and asking them for information about Chris. I think it's pretty damn weird and spergy to do this, that is to contact people with tangential relations to Chris and ask them details about Chris. Someone on the CWCki Forums is like "No, it's not weird, it's just like liking any celebrity like the Kardashians." Here's the thing - I don't think celebrity magazines are hunting down the lady who served one of those Kardashian people coffee and doing a full length interview. It's bizarre, I would be weirded out if some person went up to and wanted me to tell them everything I know about some person I vaguely remember from years ago.
::This isn't exactly someone who served Chris coffee, it's a major figure in Christory.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
::Burden of proof is on Steve and he's on shakey ground. I don't trust him one bit. I don't like having things that could very easily be false on the CWCki because it hurts our reputation and people already distrust the CWCki as it is, I don't need to give them more reason to distrust it. I don't want to give people an incentive to make up fake bullshit and post it on the CWCki with the thought they'll be declared an epic ween troll for getting "new" "content" and that they'll get into PVCC and that mommy and daddy will finally love them because they'll no longer be wastes of human flesh.
::You have to REALLY convince me here, Steve. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:18, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Hey, no objections from me. Steve wants to dig up trivial information to try and get into PVCC, that's his business. It's not like it would at all harm the CWCki to put up a single quote from the man if it does turn out to be true. Though really, you need to do something about the abundance of ween trolls trying to get into PVCC, or even just normal idiots desperately begging for it, like 16BitAlex. Maybe the guys in the forum itself or on IRC get a good laugh out of them, but I personally just get depressed when I see people like Stevey-boy cluttering the CWCki recent changes, desperately pursuing some unattainable goal by making bullshit edits and whining as hard as possible on talk pages. It wastes your time, it wastes mine, it's rather sad, and it's not even entertaining enough for the guys on /cwc/ to get more than a single thread from it. All in all, a pathetic affair for all involved. I would suggest temp-banning Pipecleaner if he continues to make a nuisance of himself after this, under your "Drama whoring" clause. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 06:13, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Champ, you have my email. This might be a dumb idea on my part, but I'm willing to give you the facebook login information so you can see the message for yourself. I'm willing to trust you to not fuck with the account, just to go into the private messages and verify the authenticity. After that can I be allowed back to the cwicki forum, under the understanding that I'll never ask to join the PVCC again?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 07:50, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
::*I think /cwc/ has made a good point, a point I have, is that - what did you expect him to say? Of course he's going to say he didn't molest Chris, even if he did molest Chris he's not going to admit it to some stranger. So having him say that he didn't do it isn't saying much, because either way he'll deny it and that really doesn't add anything to the discussion. And like I said, given Chris's background, we know he exaggerates things, and that his recollection of events aren't always the most reliable, do we need to actually get confirmation of this?
:::Ignoring the issue you wanted to get into PVCC, I don't see what it really adds to the discussion. I also don't want to encourage people to hassle people connected to Chris to get information.
:::If people feel like it absolutely, positively must remain in the article, I'd say something like "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..." or something like that so people can interpret it however they please. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:38, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Alright, can we keep it in under that wording?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 06:34, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::* How do we even know it was from Bruce anyway? I'm not doubting Steve Landcleamer has a message on his facebook, I'm 100% sure that if anyone where to get onto his facebook they would find said message...I'm doubting that it's Bruce. People have been faking to be people Chris knows for quite a while (like Megan), this wouldn't be a first.--[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 09:10, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Why would someone make an entire fake facebook account full of pictures and friends, on the random change that years after its creation someone recognizes them as Chris Chan's old principal, just so they can dish out false information? If that was the case surely they wouldn't have just said that Chris is a liar and insane.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 10:43, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::*May I ask a question? Even if you did successfully contact Chris's old principal, why was the only thing you could ask "R u pedo lol?". The big questions about Chris's time at NGE are "Why was he sent to the principal?", "Why exactly did they record his screams, was it because he was a repeat offender?", "Why was he transferred there from Greene County Primary?", and "Were the principal's lap incident and scream recording incident the same incident?". Any of those would be worth adding to the CWCki, and it would have cleared away most of the fog surrounding the event. Instead you asked for information that everyone already knew. It's like you stumbled into a garden containing hundreds of delicious alien fruits and came back with a half-eaten ordinary banana.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 15:00, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
:::Firstly, if you read the screenshot, you'll see I did ask him what really went down with Chris being sent to his office and having his screams recorded. All Johnson says is Chris is liar. Secondly I figured asking private information out of the blue about a former student would get no answer, by connecting it to the fact that Chris is getting sued by Snyder (who he also claimed was a pedophile), the message comes across as a concerned citizen looking out for Mr. Johnson, rather than some creep obsessed with Chris, and thus got a reply.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 13:56, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
::*I would also add that just because the Facebook profile is full of pictures and friends doesn't mean it isn't fake. It could just be a -really- good fake. The kind of fake that leaves no obvious evidence that makes it easy to discern as a fake. As to why someone would have done it, stranger and less tactically sound things have happened, enough that I can conceive of and not be surprised by someone doing it for exactly the reasons you mentioned, regardless of the lack of point in doing so. -[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 15:17, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
:::I will be happy to provide you a link to the facebook page, along with it's postings dating years back, and you still tell me this is can all be chalked up to an elaborate troll scheme.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
:::*You don't need to. I checked the page in its entirety (at least as much as I had access to) before I posted here, and did again before posting this. I think this is more of a difference of opinion than anything: the factors that convince you that it is real (profile in existence since 2008, existence of friends and wall posts, etc), don't automatically convince me. Like 4Macie said, if this is a fake, it is hardly the first time someone has done it. I'll also reiterate my opinion that a -really- good fake will not have any obvious signs that it is a fake. I'm not saying that the profile is fake, just that there isn't any compelling evidence that it isn't. My official position is that it exists, and people more savvy and/or more connected than I can verify the truth of it all if they choose to. Whether it is or it isn't, I'm inclined to agree with Champthom in that Bruce Johnson not being a pedophile is hardly an earth-shattering surprise. At best, it's just (allegedly) confirming something everybody but Chris already believed to be true. -[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 17:51, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
::*Does anyone object to keeping this info under the wording Champ suggested, "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..."? --[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
:::*I don't think we should put it on here at all until Champthom is convinced it's real. Also; epic ween, brah.. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 03:33, 25 June 2012 (PDT)


==Summaries==
===My thoughts===
I think the wrong focus here is whether it's indeed real or not. Supposedly this Facebook profile has been around a while, has plenty of photos, etc. What motive is there for someone to go into such detail and for what purposes? It's pretty easy why someone would want to impersonate someone like Megan or someone Chris knew from high school - so Chris will see these people, decide to talk to them, and they'd then be able to troll Chris. What purpose is there for someone faking Bruce Johnson? Why would Chris decide to contact Bruce Johnson? I can only really imagine Chris deciding 1) to look up Johnson and 2) taking the effort to contact him mostly to say something like "You molested me you pedofork!" and mind you, Chris is pretty lazy so he wouldn't go to that much hassle. So we have to possibilities - 1) someone has planned since 2008 to troll Chris and has created a believable Facebook profile, all for the motive of trolling Chris or 2) it's actually Bruce Johnson. Occam's razor would suggest the latter.


Ok, so I will check. I've started trying to sort and format the summaries for each of the Mumbles, and it's March Mumble Madness, but I seem to have contradicted instructions (as I discovered having worked on ALL of them), by listing rather than writing a narrative. What is it you want exactly, so I can get on it ASAP. --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 04:11, 18 March 2010 (UTC)22:40, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
I think the real issue here is - how can we be sure it's real or not? There's no way of knowing whether this is real or not. Are we supposed to take Steve's word for it? What's to stop other people from making similar claims? People love making shit up about Chris and using that as a way to get attention for themselves or in Steve's case, to try and get into PVCC. The CWCki was designed purposely to separate truth and fact and that's why I take this sort of thing seriously, namely that I don't like things of dubious origins to be cited as facts on here.  


==Article of the Now==
But also, let's consider - why the hell is this so damn important? I mean, it's just Steve saying "Chris says you're a pedophile" and Johnson says "No I'm not." Is that really startling? Will this totally change the way we look at Chris's claim? You know what? Even if he was a pedophile, do you really expect him to admit to a strange he molested children? So his confession says nothing really. I think that a reader of the CWCki should be familiar with Chris's track record with memory in that he tends to remember things in his favor (like that he was a Pokemon gym leader vs. Lucas and Mimms's claim that he only did it one time when all the regular people were out), plus that [[Wikipedia:Repressed_memory|repressed memories]] in general can be dubious and that it's very easy to construct pseudo-memories. Let's be VERY generous and let's say that Chris was indeed molested by Bruce Johnson. Does this really excuse his homophobia? I'd say no. True, it'd be a more valid reason than thinking that you can "turn" gay but I think that really only justifies not liking one particular gay person. Let's say a black person robs me - does this justify me being racist to all black people? No, that'd be silly, just because one particular black person harmed me doesn't mean I should hate blacks as a groups. Same thing applies to Chris and gays.


You wanted some sort of template to denote former articles of the now? [[Template:Articleofthenow|How's this?]] --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 19:58, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
Side note - Steve, don't break up one of my posts, because it looks like you wrote that whole bit when I in fact did.
*Clyde already made something, just need to incorporate it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:06, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
*Late to the party again. Never mind --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 20:23, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


== List of Chris' lies ==
In regards to your comment, you're right, this isn't like someone serving coffee - it's much weirder. It's more like if a complete stranger approached you on the street and asked you about the guy who sat two seats in back of you in English class and demanding you tell them every single detail about them. No, Chris isn't a celebrity, he's our bizarre obsession and we need to be honest with ourselves, it's sorta weird. If it wasn't for trolling, Chris would be an ordinary, dull person, albeit with some eccentricities but just an ordinary person who you might look at a few extra seconds if you were to pass him by but not a celebrity by normal standards. If you think it's normal to contact people who vaguely know people from ages ago and ask them for every single detail about said person, they'd probably think you're some sort of stalker or there's something mental with you.


Okay, I trust your judgment on this. Wasn't sure if cleanup or deletion was the better solution and it looks like I chose wrong. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 20:36, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
So should we have this tidbit on the article? Like I said, I don't think it really adds anything. If it's generating this much furious debate, I don't think it'd be wise to include it. This isn't about me not being convinced, it's about not convincing the CWCki community as a whole. Like I said, I don't think we're losing out on anything major here.  


== Quality Control jerkops ==
Those are my thoughts at least. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:20, 25 June 2012 (PDT)


Hey, I saw your comment re "Quality Control" jerkops, of which none seem to be active at this point. I think I could handle that. [[User:Apostrophe|Apostrophe]] 21:12, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Why not include it? Isn't there an inherent interest to here Johnson's response even though it is what we'd assume it would be? It can only make an article stronger. Take for example a New York Times article about an alleged criminal, it will always make a note that they contacted the accused, even if the person simply replies with a refusal to comment.
Including Johnson's comments in the article helps verify what people suspect about Chris (he made this incident up). Isn't further information/confirmation better than none?


== Champ old boy ==
As far as proving the facebook message was not some photoshop, I'm still offering Champ access to the acount so that I can prove I am not doctoring things (and if I was wouldn't you expect the details to be a lot juicier?)--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 17:41, 25 June 2012 (PDT)
::: Seriously, why are you trying so hard for this? I'm pretty sure anyone who reads what Chris thinks about Bruce would naturally assume that Bruce didn't actually touch Chris inappropriately and that Chris's screams were not recorded for Bruce's amusement...  --[[User:4Macie|4Macie]] 21:15, 25 June 2012 (PDT)
:::I've already explained myself. What is the harm in including it?--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 06:46, 26 June 2012 (PDT)


People want to update [[Fan:Sonichu: The Animated Series]], could you unlock it for a while? [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 09:12, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
So would you like the account info? I'd like to definitively prove that this is real and move on.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 17:26, 27 June 2012 (PDT)


== Userboxes ==
* I don't think anyone doubts that you received the message, the uncertainty lies in whether the account you received it from is genuine which cannot be proved by someone logging into your FB account. And also whether it's important enough to go on the CWCki anyway. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 02:07, 28 June 2012 (PDT)
Is it cool for users to make new rewards\userboxes, like the Grammar Nazi and Assburgers ones, for instance? Some wikis I've edited on don't like for you to make new ones due to space or whatnot, and others let you go crazy with it. Just want to check beforehand. [[User:BubblegumPinkButler|BubblegumPinkButler]] 03:22, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
*Yeah, it's alright, just don't go too crazy by making a kajillion of them. Some of the useboxes, like the Jerkop, Admin, etc. are obviously protected and it's poor taste to award yourself awards like the Order of the Pickle, etc. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:44, 29 March 2010 (UTC)


The what's wrong with the wording Champ suggested, "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..."? We've already established that there's an incredibly slim chance that it's a fake account, and this would reflect that small margin of error.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 06:41, 28 June 2012 (PDT)


==April Fool's Day==
* Ehhhh ... I'm still inclined to basically agree with Champ in the respect that this isn't really all that important and we're not losing out on anything major by not including it. I too also wonder why you're so insistent on this. Is this really so important that it's been worth the eight days of discussion thus far? That it's worth giving your Facebook info to someone to prove the authenticity of a point that is almost unanimously considered too minor to really be worth the effort? Which to me, I might add, seems an awful lot like something -Chris- would do, or would have done in the past. Honestly, the more you insist on having this put in the CWCki, the more skeptical I am and the more I feel that, for you, this is less about documenting things related to Chris and more about trying to boost your cred and adding more contributions to your credit. Or, like Champ already pointed out, trying to get into PVCC. Near as I can figure, the only one who is determined to see this in the CWCki is you. --[[User:Perpetual Lurker|Perpetual Lurker]] 12:52, 28 June 2012 (PDT)
Since its going to be april fools day when the ultimatum expires why dont we just shut down for 1 day and let chris think he's won.
**This. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 05:39, 29 June 2012 (PDT)
I mean worst that can happpen is he forgets about us, or the best is that he actually makes a "victory over cwcki" vid.


and then bring it back on the 2nd with a big fuck you chris
*Alright fine, you don't want it, I'll stop pushing it. Champ can you let me back on the message board? I didn't violate any rules and it's been two weeks already.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 20:05, 29 June 2012 (PDT)
:*You broke the rule about being a sperg. If you wanna go talk about Chris, why not try /cwc/? I'm sure they'll love you there.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:45, 29 June 2012 (PDT)
:*That's okay I'm content without being a member of either and just editing the cwicki.--[[User:Steve Landcleamer|Steve Landcleamer]] 19:08, 30 June 2012 (PDT)


user: DKD 15.13 GMT 31.3.10
====Help me out.====
* No.  That's stupid.  Chris will make a "HA HA I GOT U TROLLS" video and quit paying attention to us because he thinks we are gone.  If we stay up, we will have our own FUCK YOU CHRIS simply because we're not down.  This will make Chris angry, and angry Chris is funny.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 14:18, 31 March 2010 (UTC)


*Never compromise, even in the face of <strike>Armageddon</strike> April Fool's Day. Also, in the future, make a sub heading (it's two equal signs, then your text, followed by two equal signs). --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 17:32, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
I want to put this up as the video of the now but I'm not sure how.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r868reAYD4&feature=g-u-u[[User:Blaziken|Blaziken]]


This makes me worry now. What if Chris is pulling a long, convoluted April Fools prank, possibly the idea of a white knight? --[[User:Zehnfragezeichen|Zehnfragezeichen]] 16:18, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
== Ban [[User:Ireece1|this fag]] ==
*Don't be silly. The only White Knight who he listens to is Rocky, and even then, only just barely. And whats the chances that a church counsellor is going to come troll us? I think we're safe. Its almost certain that his plan consists of 'blank pages' and 'try to find and stab the webmaster' --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:32, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
You won't make me a mod, so get on it. Reason is vandalism. Check his user contributions. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 09:23, 31 August 2012 (PDT)
*Not seeing it, all he did was say that 789chan was down (it's not anymore). Not sure what you're talking about.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:35, 31 August 2012 (PDT)
*He implied a permanent closure when there was none. So my mistake, not vandalism. Inserting false information into pages. Still ban him. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 12:05, 31 August 2012 (PDT)
:*/cwc/ was down for a while and had a domain parking site in its place, it'd be easy to assume it's closed. A hasty assumption, but not inserting false information. Just revert since it's not the case and move on.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:01, 31 August 2012 (PDT)
::* *stress sigh* Fine. I'll let it go this time. But I still believe you're not nearly harsh enough. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 08:53, 2 September 2012 (PDT)


How bout we say that both bob and snorlax are dead, and put 14 Branchland Court up for sale? {{unsigned|Dan Dash}}
== banned ==


*Please, for the love of God, sign your comments. It's four tildas (~) in a row. I'm tempted to start banning people (albeit temporarily) for those who can't learn how to sign their fucking posts. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:28, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
My IP is permabanned on the CWCki forum...this was the reason: "Multiple Ban Evasions - Keep Your Cool :) " I was told to come here and grovel before you.


:*Champ's got the rage. Dan, would that actually get to Chris? Seems to me it wouldn't bother him that much. Also seems he's making himself trollproof by becoming detached from us. Thoughts? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 23:04, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
== Missed a pic ==
:**He's not trollproofing himself at all, he's just fighting the urge to go online and complain about things.  This is exactly like when we got him to make the comic--he was really diligent about it and when he missed a day he usually made up by posting two comics on the next.  Flash forward two months and he's only releasing it in short bursts.  He'll be back on his own in that time--less if he thinks Sonichu is being threatened.  I suggest that someone put up an ad on CWCipedia that states that Chris has declared all Asperpedia comics cannon within the Sonichuverse.  Or something about how Chris risks losing the "copyright" if he doesn't make visible use of it for more than two months.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 23:14, 31 March 2010 (UTC)


::*I'm not sure, he didn't even seem too angry when he discovered the Cwcipedia was devastated (now THAT would've been an April Fool's Day joke).  Could it be that he's becoming numb to it?  We've done almost everything we can to slander him, his family, and Sonichu.  We've set up "sweethearts" toyed with him and, albeit inadvertently, brought about the end of his last IRL gal-pal.  We sent the health department to his house, without effect, and have parodied Sonichu and Chris himself.  What else CAN we do to this guy? --[[User:Caboose -1|Caboose -1]] 23:17, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
[[http://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Hello.jpg]]
::**We didn't call the health department on him and he never learns from his mistakes.  We do it again and again.  He's not getting desensitized at all, actually. We know most of his buttons now, we've just got to know when to push them.  Oh, and every now and then Chris will do something to troll himself, and that's always worth a laugh.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 23:27, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
::*** But it's getting kind of cyclical, Chris gets a new sweetheart, he get's in love mood, phone calls are leaked, get lulzy videos and then, someone manages to anger him, he spews some death threats, then the sweetheart leaves/reveals as troll/dies and then we have sulk Chris, then he completely forgets about it and we have the smug Chris, and in between all that  he makes a rant video once in a while. Pretty much we have seen everything chris has to offer for trolling.[[User:Basgon|Basgon]] 04:26, 1 April 2010 (UTC)


==General question==
The vandal from earlier uploaded Goatse here as well. [[User:Cleaner|Cleaner]] 07:49, 17 September 2012 (PDT)
Alright so Im a massive newfag here, and I'm wondering how do I create those tags on your pages? For example the eurofag and amerifag stuff. Can I create my own and upload them onto my user page?
[[User:Dkd|Dkd]] 23:55, 31 March 2010 (UTC)DKD 00:54 GMT 01.04.10
Templates.--[[User:Dan Dash|Dan Dash]] 03:20, 1 April 2010 (UTC)


== "Contact me ASAP" ==
^ Ditto. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 00:05, 22 September 2012 (PDT)


What's going on? --[[User:Jerkop|Jerkop]] 03:59, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
== New Article ==
*Contact me privately. My info is on my use page, we can't discuss this openly. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:25, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
*I've tried to contact you through AIM before, but because I'm a cheapskate who can't use Windows software, I suspect AIM didn't work too well on my end. I'm now in IRC too. I hope this works better. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' <span style="font-size:smaller;">([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])</span> 10:36, 1 April 2010 (UTC)


==CWC superstar==
What do you think? Ready for prime time? [[User:Lumber/Chris and brand loyalty]]. --[[User:Lumber|Lumber]] 11:30, 1 October 2012 (PDT)
Which Chris video did you get mentioned in?


[[User:Dkd|Dkd]] 12:55, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
== New Article ==
*[[Bunny Hop|PYONG PYONG PYONG! HOPPY EASTER FOR]] [[Crass and Champ|CRASS AND '''CHAMP''']]. Technically he's referring to the crab named after me, so there should be an asterisk. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:24, 6 April 2010 (UTC)


What do you think? Ready for prime time? [[User:Lumber/Brand Loyalty]]. --[[User:Lumber|Lumber]] 11:32, 1 October 2012 (PDT)
*I was going to say, I'm usually reluctant to add another "Chris and..." article as I think they tend to be too speculatory at times. But I think this is a decent topic, as I've seen Chris's brand loyalty brought up from time to time on forums, though usually it's some component of it (like "Why is Chris so dedicated to Sonic?") and it's been a while since we've had an article of this caliber written. It's not perfect, but then again I don't think any article on the site is perfect. It looks like you did your homework, as did the other people who contributed to the article. So why the hell not? Go for it, dude. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:21, 2 October 2012 (PDT)


==Artist for hire==


I would be pleased to help by uploading pictures on the CWCki. The problem is that I don't know where to start. There was a page with the needing drawings but it wasn't updated in quite a while.
== Ban Evasion ==
I talked to Cogsdev on the irc #sonichu and was referred to you. I'm not new to the Cwcki, but I only registered only today.
Here's an example of what I can do, if it's good enough:
http://cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:Sonee_2.jpg --[[User:Blacksky01|Blacksky01]] 23:10, 13 april 2010


*I'd say that the [[Artist Commune]] for requested images is still current, so you can still try there. I'd say that the [[Mumble]] chats could use illustrations, mostly of illustrations to go with notable quotes from the chat.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:29, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Ban Evasion for What???? I had over 100 posts and had been here for more than a month. I posted in the Cwcki forum inquiring about posting on the General Forum and Smoked Daddy sent me a link to the General Forum to make a formal request. Smoked Daddy approved my request and I was initially able to post in the General Forum. I sent a message to Smoked Daddy saying the problem was resolved.  


*Here's a pic for the IRC(16 october 2008) with 2 notable quotes from it. Since I'm not sure how to add it in a good way, I'll leave it to you.
Because Smoked Daddy was new and somewhat unfamiliar with the technical side of this of the CWCki, the General Forum denied me access after replying to one thread and was no longer able to post. I sent another message to Smoked Daddy informing him that I still had a problem posting in the General Forum. I tried to log in to the forums this morning and saw I was permanently banned. -[[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 06:52, 22 October 2012 (PDT)
*You've been banned before, you know why I banned you before, you don't ban evade on my forum (i.e. sign up for a new account). Take it like a man instead of ban evading like a pussy. I don't care if Smokedaddy was okay with it, you've been banned before and you're still banned, don't think you're that clever. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:55, 22 October 2012 (PDT)


http://cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:IRC(16_October_2008).jpg
Clever about what Champ? Are you implying there was some sort of subterfuge when I registered a new account? I registered a new account '''after''' you lifted the ban (from the 789chan controversy) to avoid any more controversy with my old name on the forum.  


I hope it's good enough, I kinda messed up the pedo-glasse since it was done from memory.
I openly stated this right on your userpage under the topic "Permanent Ban". It's still there and was there ever since registered the new account. You must have known I was the same person I registered with the same name, same address, same birthdate and the same hyperlink to my webpage.
Also, how can I link my signature to my userpage?--[[User:Blacksky01|Blacksky01]] 13:44, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
This was right on my profile. Surely you check your userpage on regular basis.


*Here's another one, this time for the IRC (20 January 2009).
On second thought: If it makes you feel better thinking I conspired against you, go ahead and enjoy your forum -[[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 10:55, 23 October 2012 (PDT)


http://cogsdev.org/cwcki/File:IRC(20_January_2009).jpg
== ban evasion? ==


I tried doing the pedo glasses right this time. I'll leave this to you. Also, thanks for the edit Beat.--[[User:Blacksky01|Blacksky01]] 22:58, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm confused as to why I'm banned from the forum. I never tried to register another name or anything. I wasn't a trouble maker and never had to be warned.


== Transcription Category ==
== Forums are offline ==


What are your views on a category for all articles containing transcriptions? It would make them easier to locate for maintenance or general interest IMO. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 22:42, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
It looks like something bad might have happened to them.[[User:CompyRex|CompyRex]] 18:11, 6 November 2012 (PST)


== Question About Templates ==
Hey, Champ. I have webspace, and I'm willing to take up hosting responsibilities for the forum. Let me know what you think. [[User:SushiHazard|SushiHazard]] 12:57, 7 November 2012 (PST)


Hey, I recently uploaded the 4 templates [[Template:Observer|Observer]], [[Template:Warrior|Warrior]], [[Template:Hero|Hero]], and [[Template:Legend|Legend]]. I was wondering what I should do with them( I'm not the best at using Wikis). Should I move them somewhere, edit them, etc.? Also, since you deleted two of the category pages, I was wondering if I should restore those or delete the other two. Sorry if there are any problems. --[[User:Alcoholic Legend|Alcoholic Legend]] 03:10, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
== This shit ==


:Oh, also, just wanted to tell ya that I restored the two category pages for now (now all 4 are up instead of just 2/4). If you want me to change/move anything, I'll gladly do it. Just tell me what to do and I'll get it done. : ) --[[User:Alcoholic Legend|Alcoholic Legend]] 06:14, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Hey, I know you're probably busy with the forums and all, but [[User:Reldnahc_C|this guy]] is uploading some [[:Image:Reldnahc_cs_sonichu_ep7_edit_pg10.jpg|pretty]] [[:Image:Reldnahc_cs_sonichu_ep7_edit_pg2.jpg|stupid]] [[:Image:Reldnahc_cs_sonichu_ep7_edit_pg3.jpg|shit]]. Considering this isn't ED and all, just thought you should know about it. [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 20:46, 12 November 2012 (PST)


== Old Cats ==
== WelcomeBot Doesn't Work? ==


As part of a revamp of userboxes and their categories, there's a lot of now [[Special:UnusedCategories|unused categories prefixed with "List of"]] that need to be deleted forever. Can you fix? --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 05:16, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
I notice that the WelcomeBot doesn't work anymore. Is it intentional or a glitch? [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 20:09, 13 November 2012 (PST)
:There's a few more List of... categories that need nuking. You might have just got hand cramp or something :) --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:21, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
:*[[THAT IS MY HOUSE|I'M WORKIN ON IT!]].--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:10, 26 April 2010 (UTC)


== Deletion, moving and er, shit ==
== why was I banned? ==


To do with the Twitter stuff. I remember you saying something about Jerkop powers not extending to moving/deletion. Can I? --[[User:YawningSquirtleRedux|YawningSquirtleRedux]] 10:55, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Seriously, why the hell was I banned? All I get from it was Mew jumping to conclusions, Nia complaining about my description of my Chris dream, and Trombonista acting as if it's my responsibility to tell all the members something they could easily find out on their own.- [[User:Murderdartxker|Murderdartxker]]
*I'm not taking this all out on you but please, for the love of God, if you're going to ask me why you were banned ''tell me who the fuck you are.'' If you're using a different user name on the forums than your CWCki account, I need to know because I have no way of looking up your ban. I don't have access to any IP address stuff on here (the CWCki proper) so it's not like I can match it. Also be aware that I don't follow every single thread on the forums and I'm not responsible for every ban. In fact, I personally rarely ban people. I have no problem looking into why you were banned. I just need to know who you are so I can look your account up because I'm not a psychic. Alternatively, in the future, you can contact me at cwckiforums@gmail.com. Not taking this all out on you but I don't know why people who come on here using completely different usernames than their forum account expect me to know who they are. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:48, 19 November 2012 (PST)
My username is the same.- [[User talk:murderdartxker|murderdartxker]]
*Ah, here we go - Brooklynbaliff told me you shitposted, had some posts end up in Spergatory, and failed to take advice not to shitpost. Then you ban evaded by pretending to be a "friend" and asking why you were banned. I'm not kind to ban evaders, but I'll see what I can do.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:05, 19 November 2012 (PST)


On a related note, I made a mistake on an [[Bill Lumburg/Fan:Sonichu 11|article]] I created and I'm trying to move it to my Userspace. Can you help me with this? I don't see a move option anywhere so I'm assuming only admins can do it.  [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 03:58, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
*Thanks for taking care of that. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 04:54, 2 May 2010 (UTC)


== New Performance Style ==
==Banned for My Protection?==


Made this and applied it to a few pages after discussion that in the latest video none of the templates reflected the performance style (unadulterated smugness). Probably should have run it by you before I added it to a load of videos, sorry about that. :(
"You know, most people don't PM me when they ban evade. Look, I'm doing you a favor, so you're not the next Chris-chan."


{{Comeuppance.png|text}}
You're not fooling me. You're not "protecting me". You're not protecting anybody from "digging themselves into a hole". I've sat in 789chan (now n0chan)while you're so called 789chan policy was practially a laughingstock. In fact Champ you were responsible for Mew getting on their lolcow list.[[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 15:17, 30 December 2012 (PST)
*I don't care. If you want to see what happens when I allow people to be spergs on my forum, ask Paul David "Eyebrows" Smith. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:03, 31 December 2012 (PST)


:The template has been named incorrectly (Should not have the .png). The icon doesn't seem to match the style of the others - most notably the eyes. And I personally still don't think comeuppance is the right name we should give the template, but that's just me. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 13:02, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
You are like many people with Asperger Syndrome who try using computer logic with a predictable result when it comes to human behavior.  Such and such was mentioned on n0chan: Therefore such and such sperged. 
Not surprisingly, you are laboring under a misconception concerning PaganDeathKnight.  This was not just simple sperging. He unethically requested Megan’s dox, and then tried selling his services as a field agent. Most significantly, he came onto 789chan trying to be an internet tough guy much like Robert Wayne Stiles. In other words he was feeding the trolls.
Judging whether someone becomes a “Chris Chan” is not a computer-like science; it’s an art that requires intuition and individual judgment (i.e. analyzing thread direction, social interaction of the threads, emerging patterns, relationship history) and it’s different for each individual. Yes some things can be deducted but much of this is intuitive (reading between the lines) and you seem to be unable to do this. This can be learned by an Aspie such as yourself if you are willing to take the time to lurk in n0chan and study the threads and the patterns of interaction. --[[User:Kengel1021|Kengel1021]] 19:30, 1 January 2013 (PST)


== Video Template ==
== locking non-talk pages ==


So I made a change to the video template last night which inserts a linked version of Chris's name on video templates when someone puts '''|maker= Chris'''. Do you think that since the template is intended for Chris videos, we can just make the maker default to displaying Chris's name and drop the |maker= line for most uses of the template - retaining the option to include it if we need to override it? I need to run this past someone before I start rolling it out.
i changed the config so that non-jerkops/sysops can't edit the main namespace. talk pages are still editable. tell me how it works out --[[User:Cogsdev|Cogsdev]] 04:44, 23 January 2013 (PST)


Oh and I'm considering making the template parameters lowercase, as is common with templates. I could implement a way for the template to accept both while I transition each use of the template to use lowercase. Worth doing? (Some of the parameters are already lowercase - messy!) --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 21:31, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
== Hey ==


==#sonichu ban/the stuff I was going to post==
Do something about the spam usernames all over RC pls. Thanks. [[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:33, 28 January 2013 (PST)


Hey Champ, any word on the issues we discussed? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:16, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
== Forum Decision? ==
*Thanks for reminding me, I asked canine and he was going to talk to cogs but never heard back. I'll check with her though, though tonight isn't the best night to do it (long story). --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:31, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:*Not a problem mate, there's no rush. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 03:31, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::*Contact me ASAP, just need to clarify something. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:43, 12 May 2010 (UTC)


==Quick Question==
Hey Champ,


Got something to ask you real quick. Will you be on AIM/IRC tomorrow? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 15:57, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
My offer still stands about hosting the forum. Seeing as the relief forum just kicked the bucket, now may be a good time to move on.
*Actually I'm gonna be out of town, but I'll be back Monday night.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:48, 15 May 2010 (UTC)


== Re: Glass vs Glasses ==
My email is ichverbot at gmail dot com


Wait what? Pretty sure glasses is what the majority of English speakers use when referring to a single pair of spectacles. It just looks stupid using "glass". --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 17:31, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
--[[User:Null|Null]] 20:24, 29 January 2013 (PST)


== Uhh...Champ? ==
=== Forum Setup ===
You deleted the Facial Recognition talk page but not the page itself. Just saying. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:35, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
I sent a reply 2 hours after the original email, check your spam folder. I've already set up the forum. http://cwckiforums.com


== A jerkop resignation letter ==
I've registered you an account called Champthom with full admin powers. The password is in the email.


It appears that my furry background is raising a stir in /cwc/, and some people don't want me to post there. It does, however, bring another thing in my mind. I'd ask you to remove my jerkop bit. There's two reasons for this: First, if ''not'' having furries in positions of power helps some of the trolls to sleep better in the night, this course of action would help them. Secondly - and this is a far, far bigger reason - I'm not actually ''using'' the block/delete powers much, and having an account that needlessly has such powers is obviously a computer security risk. I don't think losing those rights would affect me that much as CWCki editor; I'm more concerned about site security and user happiness. Respectfully, --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' <span style="font-size:smaller;">([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])</span> 16:32, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
--[[User:Null|Null]] 13:56, 31 January 2013 (PST)
*I need to discuss this with Cogs first. I appreciate your selfless concern for the site but I'll be damned if /cwc/ tells me or Cogs how to run this site. What you do outside the CWCki is nobody's damn busy, to be honest. You are one of the finest CWCki editors we have, particularly because you have experience editing Wikipedia and I will not let you be intimidated by Internet fucktards at least on the CWCki. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:40, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
** Understood. I just have to add that this is one of those "last nail in the coffin" type things; like I said, the security issue is, in my opinion, ''far'' more important than the troll reaction. I'm thinking of all that ruckus that was caused by the hacked sysop accounts in Wikipedia a year or two ago. So please, if a policy needs to be made, it should be made on the security grounds, not trolling grounds. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' <span style="font-size:smaller;">([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])</span> 17:47, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
*** I saw the thread on the /cwc/ you are referring to. In my humble opinion, you shouldn't give them any power over what you do. If you identify with a paticular group on the internet, it's not important. You seem to be an important editor to this fine Wiki, so having a bit of power can't be wrong in your case. The opinions expressed by the "members" of the /cwc" imageboard aren't worth anything on the CWCkie. Also, an hacking attemp on your account seems highly unlikely if you don't let any clues on your password. But it's only my opinion on the matter, it ain't worth all that much.--[[User:Blacksky01|Blacksky01]]
**** I know. The whole situation in the thread was ridiculous. Me making the teensy bit of a mistake of being a namefag (I knew the pain threshold was low, but ''sheesh''), people spamming the thread with the (admittedly awful) drawings I drew years ago. (Careful readers might know that I ''specifically'' made a promise not to "spread the cancer" here. It applies to /cwc/ as well. But if the /cwc/ people wish to repost the godawful drawings, that's ''their'' headache.) The only real effect the thread has had on me, personally, is that I've tried to objectively evaluate some of the things that actually ''do'' suck: I mopped my user page of the rambling and put it in subpages, replaced some of the drawings on my home page (damn, those were old and awful) and I have to rethink the promotion strategies for my webcomic, since that is obviously not working. I still stand by the security concerns, but if Champ and Cogs don't think it's an issue, then I promise to not use the block/delete tools for anything heinous, as was the case before. =) --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' <span style="font-size:smaller;">([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])</span> 14:02, 30 May 2010 (UTC)


== Trouble in Asperpedia ==
=== Email Received ===


I've just gotten confirmation that the recent confusion in Asperpedia is being caused by vandals [http://hsienko.com/asperchu/index.php?title=User_talk:IsabelMonday#HI_GOD_MORNING]. Now I know you've got no power over at Asperpedia, but if they've taken the admin accounts there's nothing they can really do, and I was hoping you might have connections with someone who could help take the site back. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:02, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
I sent another email to your personal address. Let me know if you got it.
*Mao is a [[Wikipedia:trickster|trickster]], beware of his cunning. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:03, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
**Well if it's a trick, its still pissing me off. I just made a project proposal to him and he answers by deleting all the fan content. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:05, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
::*Have you considered the possibility he is TROLLING YOU BACK? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:07, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:::*Not if he was destroying everyone else's fan content. That's just too extreme for trolling one person. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:09, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
::::* Admins can undelete deleted content so it could be an elaborate troll. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 18:35, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::* I'm aware of that, in fact my first thought was that Mao was taking a piss all over me, until I saw he was deleting the entire fan portal and not just my content. I'll just have to wait and see what happens. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:36, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::*Wait, your telling me that this is the actual Mao doing this? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:01, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
As Champ said, you cannot rule that possibility out knowing Mao's traits. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 19:04, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, but I never thought Mao would do something like this. This is extreme even for him. And he's deleting Asperchu too. And he's talking about /b/ and people's passwords. And the toher admins are acting like that too. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:06, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
::* He set his password to '''password''' (no, seriously) and some asshat got in his account. [[User:Pfargtl9000|Pfargtl9000 Spam and Eggs]] 19:47, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
::** *Facepalm* --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:57, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
{{quote|That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard! It's like what a moron would set on his luggage!|<s>Mel Brooks</s> Rick Moranis couldn't have said it any better.}}


==Talk pages==
--[[User:Null|Null]] 18:34, 31 January 2013 (PST)


I think we should start looking at temporary bans for user who continue to use article talk pages for personal discussion. It's out of control. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 03:19, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
== Re: For Pete's Sake ==


* He edited his page to change someone's comment to something compromising. When I called him out on it, he did that to me too, and then faked my signature on another compromising comment. Then again, I "had it coming" as you said. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 03:24, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll remember that. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 00:05, 10 September 2013 (PDT)
*I don't like being involved in others peoples' problems but Delabonte is abusing his power while being hypocritical. look at the history in his talk page.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 03:50, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:*Delabonte is neither a jerkop or admin, he has no real powers aside from being here for a while. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:54, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


*I don't like it either.  Not that I disapprove of the Not a Forum template--those are prefectly justified on any non-user talk page.  There's usually a thread over on the appropriate channels anyway, so it's not like it's a big deal.  I just don't understand why it should apply to user talk pages.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:04, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
== Sagas ==


:I was talking about '''article''' talk pages, not '''user''' talk pages, but out of respect for 16BitAlex I have removed the offending article from the talk page and put it on my userpage. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 04:05, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
I would like to ask you to please review the page on [[Saga|sagas]], as there has recently been the addition of a "Revalation [sic] Saga"--as though a new era is upon us. I am skeptical of its legitimacy, so I appreciate it if you took a look. --[[User:IwegalBadnik|IwegalBadnik]] 00:48, 8 October 2013 (PDT)
::Partly my fault for not reading fully. But, if it was truly out of respect you would have removed the "offending article". You are right on Not A Forum for ''article'' talk pages. If only there was a forum that CWCki users could use. In fact, there ''was'', until the powers that be at a certain private forum thought that a public forum was a bad idea. --[[User:16BitAlex|16BitAlex]] 04:22, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
::when i said abusing your power i didn't mean the "NOT a forum thing". i understand my mistake regarding that. what i meant was the editing anonymax's and 16alex's comments on your usertalk after you told alex he could not delete the vandalism from his userpage.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 04:40, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


:*Dudes, there's still [[Krapple|/cwc/]] and [[EDF]] (if you're totally desperate). Fuck, you can make your own forum, just don't go about declaring how you're gonna rip stuff off from PVCC or try to overtake PVCC. Fuck, hang out in [[Sonichu (IRC)|#sonichu]] and they'll let you in PVCC if you're not a faggot. Point is, CWCki isn't the place for this sort of talk - it's distracting and there's better places to do this.
== Facebook revamp ==
::I mildly tolerate it since once people get warned, they (usually) tend to start and it's hard to keep track of repeat offenders. I think I've temporarily banned someone who was a repeat offender once but as I said, it's hard to keep track of people who do that sort of shit over again.
::I really haven't seen this as a huge problem on article talk pages, and in the past I have threatened bans for trivial discussing that was getting out of control but for one or two people commenting I can sorta deal with. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:54, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


Champ, I think you should look into Delabonte again. I tried warning him about not starting a flame war, but he just started vandalizing other people's comments on his talk page. This kind of behavior isn't tolerated here. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 13:08, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I've been trying to clean up the Facebook sections of the wiki. I wonder what you have to say about my changes.
*Cogs has spoken to me, the issue has been resolved. As usual, in her favour. --[[User:Delabonte|Delabonte]] 14:47, 25 June 2010 (UTC)


==I just counted==
Also, I've made some comments in the portal, and I would like you to look at this: [[CWCki:General#Facebook_revamp]].
For some reason, I'm doing this lately. You have, as of this writing, made 8925 edits to the CWCki, based on your contributions page. No joke. Thought you ought to know. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 00:29, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
*1) that's because I'm an admin, 2) most of my admins are me failing to preview and tiny shit 3) mostly talk page edits. Fun fact - my user page is the most linked page on CWCki because I comment on like every talk page. But yeah, I spend way too much time here. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:32, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


== Yo ==
[[User:Chaosakita|ChaosAkita]] 07:57, 5 November 2013 (PST)
Champ! Do us all a favour and ban JESUS would you? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 19:57, 2 July 2010 (UTC)


== You said to direct questions to you. So... ==
* Hi it doesn't seem like you have any opinion on my current facebook revamp, so I will be finishing it up as I've done the rest of the posts. [[User:Chaosakita|ChaosAkita]] 14:26, 19 November 2013 (PST)
How in the fuck is that Coffee Place article a confirmed CWC sighting? Where in that photo is Chris or Bob, because I can't see shit? What does any of the text have to do with Chris or any sighting of any kind for that matter? Why does Clyde believe it's a confirmed CWC sighting? What evidence have we got? And why are you and Clyde so certain that this user's word alone can be trusted to the point of threatening bans for questioning them, when they haven't really given us any real proof of anything?


I really, really, REALLY hope that i'm just retarded and missing something obvious, because this makes NO sense to me whatsoever. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 02:03, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
== Hate to bother you about this ==
:shut the fuck up edward [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 02:06, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
*To clarify, I'll be glad to address any questions on a one-on-one basis in IRC or via AIM.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:07, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
**I've also got a question I need to ask you in IRC.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 02:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
*I can't use IRC. My computer fucks up whenever I try, and believe me I have tried. Why am I never allowed an actual answer when I ask a question? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 12:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
*You are thicker than liquid cement, Edward. Email me at origins.intervention@null.net so I can enlighten you.  --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 16:11, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
*It's not sending. I keep trying to send a message and I keep getting a notification email telling me that they couldn't send it for some reason. Are you sure that's the right email address? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:30, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
**Can I cover this, Champ?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 17:52, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
::*Go ahead, or Jump is sure to enlighten you as well, Edward.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:58, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
***Try my alterate, the.new.chemical@gmail.com --[[User:Jump|Jump]] 18:32, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:I did actually maange to get a message through to Jump's alternate account. I'm waiting for his response right now. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:00, 4 July 2010 (UTC)


:Everything's sorted now. Thanks again Jump. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 15:54, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Would you mind deleting my first upload of the 6th photo commented on by Chris? The reason is that I'm a moron. --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 02:55, 1 January 2014 (PST)


== irc ==
:Did that for you. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] 06:57, 1 January 2014 (PST)
:: Thank you very much. --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] 07:12, 1 January 2014 (PST)


<s>Yo, Champ, I'm trying to join #sonichu but I get a message that says the hostname could not be resolved, and when I do get in, it says I have to identify a registered name. I'm using Mibbit and I already have an account there, and whenever I use the link at our Mibbit article, there's no one on. What am I doing wrong? Sorry for being a total newfag.</s> nevermind, sorry for annoying you-[[User:Hiiro|Hiiro]] 17:08, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
== Re: Welcome Template ==


==Ban me==
I am aware of that, but when I did so, this is what I got, everything's perfectly fine except for the final part: http://i.imgur.com/OtWcjdA.png


I'm evading a permaban. Jesus Christ. Do your fucking job, sandnigger.--[[User:JerryMathers|JerryMathers]] 00:03, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
== Grace Baptist Church ==


== We need some clarification ==
Good day,


On the community portal you said "do not interfere with Jenkins" which I simply took to mean "do not fuck with him" or "let him work on his report unimpeded." Delabonte, on the other hand, claims you meant zero communication and is putting up some userbox on everyone's page who posted on his talk page. All I did was point him to he userbox list after someone suggested it to him. Could you please clarify for everyone's sake what you specifically meant?
I'd like to ask for your consultation. I've come to the conclusion that the date for Chris's expulsion from [[Grace Baptist Church]] provided by the article on this subject is wrong, and I have stated my reasons for thinking so [[Talk:Grace Baptist Church#The date of Chris's expulsion from Grace Baptist Church|here]]. I'm hesitant however to amend the article because this would mean reverting a five year old edit. Seeing that among this wiki's active users you have been here for the longest time, I'd like to know your thoughts on this matter. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] ([[User talk:NegaCWC|talk]]) 23:49, 9 May 2014 (UTC)


Also, I think the 'fuckwit alert' box is unwarranted; seriously, why would the PVCC care about a harmless mistake, let alone monitor such 'criminals'? And if I really had broken your rule, me and the other users would have been banned by now, wouldn't we? Some of those comments had already been put up for days without incident. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 04:49, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
*I'm not sure how we got that date, I imagine it's mentioned ''somewhere'' if you dig for it. It's possible that someone just guessed the date. If you can't find a source for the date, I'd say it's better to err on the side of caution and say that Chris was banned sometime in that general time range instead of an exact date. Or just putting a "citation needed" might work to say that we don't have an exact citation for it.
*I took it to mean "Don't do anything that doesn't appear to be approved".  I followed that to the letter and I intend to follow the proper instructions now that I've been notified.  However, I think the userbox was an overreaction.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 05:16, 12 July 2010 (UTC)


I think your userboxes are very fitting and you wear them well. [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 05:55, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
:Just because an edit is really old doesn't always mean it's right. There's usually some reason for it but we didn't always have high standards and as I've mentioned before, because we don't have a lot of editors, bad content can be left for long periods of time without someone catching it. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 10:05, 11 May 2014 (UTC)


*As we want Jenkins to keep up the good work, the idea is more of the former - to not hinder his work, i.e. not to post too many praises on his talk page. I'm not sure what's been going on as I've been out the past two days or so, but I'm guessing people may have lost control and completely praised Jenkins, especially for getting a seinor cheerleader. I can understand where Delabonte is coming from but srsly, don't be a dumbass when it comes to this sort of thing.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
**Thanks for the input. As far as I can see not only there aren't any sources for that date, the sources we do have argue against it (see Grace Baptist Church talk page for my arguments). I'm going to wait a couple of more days to see if anyone has anything to say on this matter, and if there won't be any objection I'm going to edit the article according to my plans. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] ([[User talk:NegaCWC|talk]]) 15:58, 14 May 2014 (UTC)


==Regarding the 'Relics of fail' items.==
== Context for Twin Falling Towers ==
Right now, out of 26 different relics, a total of 10 of them have the suffix "of fail". I think that the 'of fail' tag on the end of many of the items is a bit stale. Not only does it make them all seem generic and without personality, but 'of fail' just seems kind of juvenile. I'd like to start a vote to change the majority of the names to give them more flair, so they stand out more. Talked about it in IRC a few nights ago, and the consensus seemed to agree. One of the names thrown around was to change "Plush Boobs of Fail" into something along the lines of "Plush Boobs of Repressed Sexuality." Give them names that indicate their use, descriptors that tell you about the item before you even read about it. "Pokewalker of Sloth" or "Pokewalker of Inactivity". Even if the 'of fail' tag is supposed to indicate that Chris created it himself, there's no reason for the Plush Boobs and Sailor Moon Poster to have it included. Let me know what you think. [[User:Brofose|Brofose]] 06:55, 13 July 2010 (UTC)


I concur with Brofose. Fail has become a bit of a lame old meme, and while it is one of the most apt words to describe anything about CWC, I believe the Relics would do well to be assigned new titles. [[User:DrShoggoth|DrShoggoth]] 07:08, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
On the forums you suggested that someone told Chris he should make [[Twin Falling Towers]] because Clyde worked in the Twin Towers.  However, the article precludes this. Now, it wouldn't excuse Chris' behavior, but it would add some context to the situation and make it seem less A-Loggy if it was true that he didn't come up with the idea all on his own.  Is it safe to say that a troll at least ''may'' have suggested this idea to him?  --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] ([[User talk:Holdek|talk]]) 16:16, 21 July 2014 (UTC)


:I don't really mind the "of fail" but I wouldn't miss it either.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 12:30, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
: I recall seeing a post where someone actually influenced Chris to make a video, and if it does, I agree that context should be added. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 16:32, 21 July 2014 (UTC)


I think this sounds like a pretty good idea. Perhaps we should consider some kind of formal way to do this. Like, we could have something in the community portal for users to suggest new suffixes, then from those like 5 favorites are picked out and a poll is taken for the new suffix. --[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 22:00, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
* I don't recall saying that. Not saying I didn't, I just don't remember saying anything about that video. I certainly don't remember anything about it being because Clyde worked at the Twin Towers. I can say that I'm like, 99% sure that someone suggested he make this but I don't have a public source to verify this. I consider myself reliable but I don't want the reason it's cited as "because Champthom says so" as the reason. Truth be told, pretty much all but a very few of Chris's videos were made because someone suggested or motivated him to make a video he might not have made.  


== Thanks ==
: Saying he ''might'' have been influenced isn't awful, but it just seems very wishy washy and you can argue all sorts of crazy stuff about Chris if you suggest he "might" do something. I'm not an A-Log, I wasn't personally offended by the video like some people were but I think that even if Chris was motivated to do this by someone else, Chris lacked the discretion and judgement to realize that making a video mocking what's a national tragedy in the minds of many people as being in extremely poor taste and that is what people would find reprehensible about Chris. Again, I don't think this justifies the A-Log arguments that Chris should be trolled because he made that video or that makes Chris an amoral monster, just that Chris exercised extremely poor judgement that he really should have been able to exercise. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 12:14, 22 July 2014 (UTC)


Thanks for pointing that out. Also, I'd like to talk to you about something regarding some recent edits. [[User:CrassCrab|CrassCrab]] 19:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks for the feedback.  Maybe I will just delete this part then: "Many believed that Chris must have been motivated by a trusted friend into creating such a video for the express purpose of causing Chris to embarrass himself for our amusement, but there has been no evidence to support this theory. Chris just managed to do something so autistic that it was difficult to believe, even for him."  That seems to be speculation itself, and anyway the rest of the article already talks about how tasteless and offensive Chris was in doing this. --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] ([[User talk:Holdek|talk]]) 20:38, 25 July 2014 (UTC)


== Welcome Template ==
== Anna's CWCki account? ==


The welcome template no longer requires any parameters - but it works better if substituted. --[[User:Anonymax|Anonymax]] 02:05, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
In 2011 a user called [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Special:Contributions/FFFFFUUUUU FFFFFUUUUU] edited the CWCki and claimed to be Anna, and you [http://www.sonichu.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Anna_McLerran&diff=135073&oldid=135072 responded] to him/her under the assumption that this is indeed everyone's favorite Mormon. It is confirmed for certain that Anna is the operator of this account? If so, can I edit the article on Anna to mention her edits to the CWCki and likewise use her edits as a source about her relationship with Chris? - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] ([[User talk:NegaCWC|talk]]) 16:37, 30 July 2014 (UTC)


== My jerkop status ==
== CWC Videos on Archive.org ==


A week ago, Cogs temporarily removed my jerkop status (for deleting [[Template:UnderWatch|this]] template), but said I could ask you to give it back to me after a week or so [[User_talk:Cogsdev#About_deleting_that_template|here]]. So now I'm just asking you if I can have it back, please.--[[User:Jerkop|Jerkop]] 17:55, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi, you seem to be the highest-in-command here. I thought you'd like to know that the Internet Archive has a collection of CWC videos [https://archive.org/details/christopherwestonchandler here]. That should preserve his legacy for a REAL long time. [[User:Letter Z|Letter Z]] ([[User talk:Letter Z|talk]]) 17:05, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
*Wow, that's pretty impressive. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 17:28, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
:You're welcome. :) I'm actually the guy who uploaded all of those videos—in their highest resolution. Let me know if any videos need uploading on the collection. Plus, I've backed up this wiki and archive.sonichu.com [https://archive.org/details/wiki-sonichucom here] and [https://archive.org/details/wiki-archivesonichucom here] respectively. Hope I've helped out. I'm sorry for starting out here with some sexism comments. I've had bad experiences with girls in my past... [[User:Letter Z|Letter Z]] ([[User talk:Letter Z|talk]]) 20:30, 11 January 2015 (UTC)


==SIR==
== Unable to make new pages ==
I have been away for a while.  I have come back to be a serious editor again.  I was looking through the to-do list with every intent of starting to crack down on transcribing Mumbles... then I saw an interesting tidbit.  It still says that images should be limited to 150kb.  Is this truly the case?  Because the upload screen says keep it to 7mb.  If 150kb is really the case, then perhaps I should go on another resize campaign.  I am up for it, I have time.  I am asking you sir, if this is where I should focus my efforts.  Tell me and I will get started right away. --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 14:05, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
*The 150 kb thing isn't so much important nowadays since we have the new space and space isn't quite as limited, not to mention people are doing a good job at not uploading huge ass images. Transcribing Mumble chats would probably be a more worthwhile and rewarding en devour though, IMHO. Godspeed to you.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 16:56, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
:*Roger that, I'm on it... --[[User:Fuckingstupid|Fuckingstupid]] 18:16, 20 July 2010 (UTC)


== Sonichu TAS transcripts ==
Hi. I am unable to make new pages because even though it gives me a notice about needing to play a game to prove I'm human, it doesn't show me the game. I'd like a little help with this, please. --[[User:FromtheWordsofBR|FromtheWordsofBR]] ([[User talk:FromtheWordsofBR|talk]]) 19:40, 18 January 2015 (UTC)


Would it be alright to upload transcripts from the animated Sonichu series? [[User:CosmicFeeling|CosmicFeeling]] 19:29, 3 August 2010 (PDT)
== CWCki ==
 
Why does this wiki exist? Is it because [[Chris]] is just about everything bad a human can be? :P [[User:Letter Z|Letter Z]] ([[User talk:Letter Z|talk]]) 18:50, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
 
== DVD photos ==
 
Hello. I was just browsing through the video of Chris's old DVD that he released in 2007. There is a big disparity between the images shown on the video and the images found in "Category:DVD slideshow images." While many of the missing images are scattered around the CWCki, there are many shown on the video that I've never seen before and I can't find anywhere on the CWCki. For some reason, the slideshow images were uploaded to the CWCki in bits and pieces by different users. My question is, do you or any other old-timers know if these images are saved somewhere? Where did they come from originally? When Chris gave PandaHalo a copy of the scrapbook, did she also get the old photos?
 
I would like to restore this photo album, and I'd like to get my hands on a few particularly interesting photos. Any assistance would be welcome. Thanks. --[[User:Asperhes|asperhes]], 1/31/15.
 
*[[PandaHalo|Panda]] dropped an entire .rar or something along those lines of the DVD slideshow. If I'm not mistaken, she did a drop of the DVD slideshow and then of his scrapbook. I'm curious what images may be missing. I remember I was the person who initially uploaded all the images from that .rar, one by one so it's plausible I might have missed one. It's been a while since I've seen the DVD slideshow but I don't recall seeing images that weren't in the DVD.
 
:It's possible that the images you're thinking of are on here, but not properly categorized. Unfortunately, there are many things on here not properly categorized and personally I'm leaning on that explanation. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 14:20, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
 
== Favicon ==
 
MediaWiki noob here. I don't know who else to talk to, and you seem to be pretty well-versed in the workings of the site. I made a Favicon for the CWCki, but I don't know who to send it to in order to get it on the site. Would you know what to do about that? This is what it looks like: [[File:Chris pokeball.png]]
[[User:Pwnisher248|Pwnisher248]] ([[User talk:Pwnisher248|talk]]) 03:27, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
* I swore we had a favicon, must have been lost at some point. That's a fine looking one, I'll see what I can do. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] ([[User talk:Champthom|talk]]) 13:17, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
* Cool. I'm a noob so I couldn't figure out how to get rid of the white border, but someone who knows this stuff better than me could. [[User:Pwnisher248|Pwnisher248]] ([[User talk:Pwnisher248|talk]]) 17:23, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 
== Retiring from the CWCki? ==
 
Hi Champ, just wanted to check: are you going to retire from the CWCki in addition to the forums? --[[User:Holdek|Holdek]] ([[User talk:Holdek|talk]]) 15:08, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
 
== Broken MediaFire Links ==
 
Hello, so all across the wiki are broken Mediafire links, and it's pretty bad. Is there any way that these links could be repaired by reuploading the appropriate files so that the public can download them? By the way, I've reuploaded a lot of Chris material on the Internet Archive (including two YouTube videos blocked off in the U.S.): https://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22christian+weston+chandler%22. I could upload the material (or you guys can) on to the Internet Archive, where they try to preserve anything that is digital.
 
I originally posted this on the Main Page's talk, but seeing that you were around for so long, I thought you can probably repair a lot of the links. [[User:Letter Z|Letter Z]] ([[User talk:Letter Z|talk]]) 22:10, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 
==Can You Lock The A-Logging Page?==
 
I added some guy named [[User:Hagibor|Henry Panfil]] to the Wall of A-Logging Shame (seriously, if wanting to see Chris chop his own dick off doesn't qualify you I don't know what does). Now he keeps chimping out and re-editing the page  with unrelated shit. I don't mind people talking shit on me, but I don't want to see it done on unrelated pages. My apologies if I'm in the wrong here. [[User:Newwaveknight|Newwaveknight]] ([[User talk:Newwaveknight|talk]]) 20:56, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 
Champ's retired man. The last thing he ever did over here was from last year, and he said on the CWCki Club that he will no longer be really active. Go yell at [[User:Canine|Canine] instead. -[[User:Windows OS|Windows OS]] ([[User talk:Windows OS|talk]]) 22:45, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 
== Where'd you go? ==
 
RIP --[[User:DawnDusk|DawnDusk]] ([[User talk:DawnDusk|talk]]) 03:12, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 23:12, 25 July 2021

Talk to me.

Be sure to check out the archives as well:

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Champ, I mean it now

When I come on here and see that people like this mouthbreather have been fucking with pages while being told not to and spamming pictures of furry porn that we for some reason allow on here, and yet I have the power to neither delete the image or ban the sperg, it cuts me deep. I'm on here often enough and I've already contributed a lot to the wiki. Can you throw some Jerkop powers my way so I can sort this shit out in future? We don't have nearly enough active mods and this place seems to have this kind of shit all the time. I mean this seriously Champ, I think the CWCki could benefit a lot from more Jerkops. --Old meme 06:09, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

Before you answer him, Champ, keep in mind that I've also been here a long time and am also actively contributing; so if you decided to give Old meme jerkop rights, I sure would appreciate receiving them as well. Just saying. --T K 19 09:24, 20 April 2012 (PDT)
  • You both make good points. Could you point out the furry image though, the only image I've seen by him is that picture of Chris ejaculating on Anna's face, which I've incidentally deleted because I don't think it really improves the Anna article. Anyways, about quality in general - I've discussed this issue with Anonymax, and this goes for the both of you, that as regular users you have all the tools needed to improve the quality of the CWCki. If there's an incidence such as an edit war going on, you're welcome to ask any of the admins to step in to resolve the issue. For these reasons, I don't think it's needed to add more jerkops or admins for these reasons. However, if it ever got out of control, then I would consider making someone a quality control jerkop to enforce quality standards. However, I think for the most part you all have the tools you need, just keep making good edits and reverting shit like you have been doing and I think that should be sufficient.--Champthom 22:11, 20 April 2012 (PDT)

Deletion of Fail; Effects

Would it be necessary to organize a project of some kind to remove red "fail" pipes from pages across the CWCki? --IwegalBadnik 11:27, 23 April 2012 (PDT)

Anonybot is working on it. --Anonymax 14:41, 23 April 2012 (PDT)

Fail article deleted, stupid page names corrected, Champ finally got around to deleting the furry porn. It's been a good week. --Old meme 06:39, 24 April 2012 (PDT)

  • At least SOMEONE is happy.--Champthom 04:18, 25 April 2012 (PDT)

Why did you delete the article on Kim?

She is as notable as any of the gal pals, and all the info IS public, coming from the Kacey calls.--Steve Landcleamer 23:03, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

  • How do you know the Kim from the Kacey calls is the same Kim Wilson? Kim is a fairly common name. You're also assuming a lot of things, like Kim is ScarletSanctum when you have no proof of that, and you're including a lot of things that are rumors like how some apology video was because Kim was upset. --Champthom 23:04, 4 May 2012 (PDT)
  • 1. Chris states her name is Kim Wilson in one of the Kacey calls.
  • 2. ScarletSanctum is Kim's youtube handle, as stated in SingStar Challenge.
  • 3. Chris addresses in that video that he upset Kim and Kacey with the previous video.

And if the name was an issue why not just redirect the page to "Kim"?--Steve Landcleamer 23:17, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

  • How do you know that ScarletSanctum is Kim? Does Chris explicitly mention it? Also does Chris specifically say Kim in that video in that it upset her? --Champthom 23:23, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

Chris does explicitly mention it. Look at this dialouge in Kacey Call 1:

  • Chris: Yeah. So you know uh, Kim, you know uh, how she, uh, yeah you know, uh, Kim, I actually heard that Kim and her friend Logan actually live in the Charlton area close to the downtown mall, you know? So if you ever wanted to look her up and, you know, just talk to her, you know, find about more about the impostor for me, or you know, see what her opinion of me is on the Internet from her point of view...
  • Kacey: Oh, you want me to do some undercover stuff? Chris, that is so sweet of you! You know how much I wanted to get involved.
  • Chris: Oh yeah, sure. You know that ScarletSanctum account? That's hers.
  • Kacey: Okay, no, I will totally, totally message her. It's Kim Woods, you said?
  • Chris: No, Kim Wilson. Totally. Message her, talk to her all about me.

As far as making the video in response to offending Kim, he also implicitly states this:

"Uh, I dedicate this video to uh, Logan. Boyfriend of my gal-pal, Kim. Yeah, anyway uh, I've--I just wanted to uh, apologize for uh...offending you in anyway"

He could also be referring to offending Logan, but either way why through the baby out with the bathwater?--Steve Landcleamer 23:35, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

  • Let me think about it. In the meantime, I've made a subpage for you in the meantime.--Champthom 23:39, 4 May 2012 (PDT)

So is there any hold up or is the page good to go? I've answered all your questions and it seems to meet all the requirements.--Steve Landcleamer 16:32, 5 May 2012 (PDT)

  • Don't you think it might be a little bit imprudent to make a page about Kim?--Champthom 17:58, 5 May 2012 (PDT)
  • Why would it be imprudent? All the information is public and sourced. All the other gal pals have pages, so what would the problem be?--Steve Landcleamer 18:37, 5 May 2012 (PDT)
  • Well?--Steve Landcleamer 20:39, 7 May 2012 (PDT)
  • Good God, first learn some patience, this isn't a life and death issue. Second of all, let me put it this way - in your own words, the supposed Kim calls are unreleased. Why do you think that is?--Champthom 07:18, 8 May 2012 (PDT)

Because "she"'s obviously still trying to troll Chris. Regardless, that's beside the point, while the calls haven't been released, all the information in the article has. You initially deleted it under the guise that is was "Not notable, not based on public information", but we both know that that's clearly not the cause. My page seemed to meet all the guidelines, so based on Cwicki guidelines, what is objectionable about it?

I'm sorry if I seem impatient, I just find this quelling of already public information to be pretty ridiculous and counter productive to the CWCki.--Steve Landcleamer 14:43, 8 May 2012 (PDT)

  • Based on my discussions with Canine and Anonymax, I have decided to restore the article. Remember, the CWCki is form Chris's POV so Kim isn't a troll, she has not publicly declared herself to be a troll to Chris. I'd also avoid posting on /cwc/ and CWCki Forums when you make an article on a delicate topic like this.--Champthom 03:09, 11 May 2012 (PDT)
===If I may step in and say a piece===

I know I may not be towing the party line by saying this Champ, but Land has a point here. This is all information that was technically on the wiki anyway, just in out of the way places. Personally, I have no problem with covering things up for trolling purposes, because I understand the need to do so and I'm not one to whine about dang dirty stonecutters, but we have information on Kim here already. I don't care which side of the fence you're on Champ, I'll just go with what you say, but you've got to at least be consistent. Either allow the article outright, or if you object to some of the content in the article being made public, censor it and then allow the censored version to be posted. Your decision is final and no-one would be able to stop you, so I don't know what you're worried about. --Old meme 06:22, 9 May 2012 (PDT)

  • True, I realize this, but the issue is that there's a good reason that Kim doesn't already have an article, mostly for privacy reasons which is indeed already covered. I'm trying to convey that subtly. Remember, Chris reads the CWCki, and loose lips sink ships. I don't think "we" released the Kacey calls, Canine tells me it was all dropped by Liquid's twin brother so it's not like we were able to filter through everything to see if anything was objectionable.
This is a difficult decision and I need to discuss it with Canine a bit more, unfortunately we have conflicting schedules so I'll try and catch him tonight.--Champthom 06:31, 9 May 2012 (PDT)

Chris's POV

  • Thank you for restoring the Kim article. I am wondering something concerning what you said about the cwicki supposed to be from Chris's point of view. Why do articles like Obesity state that Chris is fat? He's said multiple times that he does not think he is. There are lots of other examples like this.--Steve Landcleamer 17:07, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

Chris and reality would be the best example of this.--Steve Landcleamer 18:13, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

We go by what Chris thinks/says unless we have decent evidence to the contrary. With his obesity, we have more than enough evidence to support this. --Anonymax 01:04, 12 May 2012 (PDT)

Permanently Banned from Message Board

I really don't understand this at all. Please respond to the email I sent you.--Steve Landcleamer 16:21, 6 May 2012 (PDT)

Never mind one of the other mods took care of this.--Steve Landcleamer 20:39, 7 May 2012 (PDT)

I have a similar problem and would like to be unbanned. Negi Springfield 23:23, 9 July 2012 (PDT)

  • I'm guessing you got banned for being a sperglord, but what's your username?--Champthom 05:12, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

I was banned due to 789chan having a thread on me during one of their CWC dry spells. I went by Negi Springfield, so not much different from what I'm using right now. Negi Springfield 17:01, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

I would also like to be unbanned from the message board. Kengel1021 00:29, 7 August 2012 (PDT)

  • You've had two threads about you on /cwc/ plus you've sperged about your "comic." No, you're not getting unbanned.--Champthom 04:44, 7 August 2012 (PDT)

There was never a single warning I had received from any board moderator regarding personal attacks or violating message board policy. If my posts were so terrible, it only stands to reason that your moderators would have jumped in. Aren’t they the watchdogs of the message board?

What exactly is your justification for permanently banning people who have been mentioned on 789Chan? Kengel1021 07:22, 8 August 2012 (PDT)

  • There is a clear rule about over sperging and if there's a /cwc/ thread about you, odds are you've sperged too much. My moderators are often too lax when it comes to this sort of thing, which is why I step in. I don't need to warn you, you should know better, if you have autism that you choose not to treat that is not my fault. And my rationale? If you've got a thread about you on /cwc/, me banning you is the least of your concerns. In fact, I am doing a favor by preventing you from digging yourself deeper in a hole. --Champthom 07:42, 8 August 2012 (PDT)

Champ this is right from the CWCki about “Sperging” “The CWCki forums highly recommended place to discuss anything about Chris to your heart's content. This board was created in response to the growing demand for a place where people could discuss anything without fear of violating CWCki's strict talk page policies”

As far as sperging about my comic that was in reference to critiquing Chris’ art style

I mentioned there were open source graphics programs such as GIMP that were completely free to download. I brought up the fact that he could spend a little bit of his tugboat on reference works with royalty free manga stock images and copyright would not be an issue.

As for a few of the other topics that I started that probably sperged? Are we being unfair to Chris in judging him? Would you hire Chris if he was genuinely seeking employment? Do you think that Chris and Barbara were intimate with each other? If Chris decided to charge $250 for a for two day visit at his house and a no holds barred interview, would you take him up on it?

The board moderator(s) that I observed that wanted to put in their two cents worth joined right in on the debates: They had no issues with this. You mentioned the board moderators were too lax. I disagree. They were doing their job.

Let me share something with you: When that thread started about me around the beginning of January on 789chan and I was permanently banned: I monitored that thread every day. They went back and looked at my posts. Do you want to know what their reaction was?

They were baffled on why I was being banned. They didn’t bust my chops because of what I posted in the forum. What got the thread off the ground was a personal attack on 789Chan over a Beiber troll on my YouTube channel that came back and bit me in the ass. Was it a moment of stupidity that I regretted? Yup.

Have I been brought up twice on 789Chan? No. I’d say 5 to 10 times is more of a realistic estimate. It wasn’t sperging that brought me up on 789Chan. It was curiosity about my YouTube channel (which has been around for years) and more recently my website. Kengel1021 20:31, 8 August 2012 (PDT)

  • Why do you want to go back on the forum so bad? It's kinda sad that you're going to all this trouble. Seriously, move on dude, talk about Chris on /cwc/, see how that goes. Hell, go to Slimz's forum. Or start your own. Why do you want to go back on the forum so much? The point is that you give us unwanted attention and I have enough trouble maintaining the forum's reputation as it is.--Champthom 04:15, 9 August 2012 (PDT)

NOTE slimz forum is no longer active, never really was. Slimz would like to be reinstated in the forums as well :) i have bene here editing for a while ban was like a year ago. slimz - ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐ 13:14, 9 August 2012 (PDT)

  • Most of your edits are shit, plus what you do here has no bearing on the forums. You are the reason why everyone on /cwc/ thinks we're all A-Logs, there is no fucking way you're going back on the forum. --Champthom 23:35, 9 August 2012 (PDT)

I just took off my last reply. I'm not going to worry about this anymore. Do whatever you want. Kengel1021 22:46, 10 August 2012 (PDT)

  • What was the username you had on the forum? I've thought about it and I think I might just let you back on.--Champthom 05:14, 11 August 2012 (PDT)

My username was Kengel1021 Kengel1021 16:04, 18 August 2012 (PDT)

Thank you Champ. I am not sure what the policy for reentry is upon a ban lift under these circumstances so I have registered a new account(YippoBlippo)for the forums.--Kengel1021 16:23, 9 September 2012 (PDT)

Comms

I'm on IRC a lot and today is my day off work so if you're around so am I! --Anonymax 02:19, 11 May 2012 (PDT)

can I help?

Hey I have a capture card that does 720p,1800p,ect and wanted to know if I could use it to help (lbp videos,screen shots) does anything need to be rerecorded? also I'm moving soon so if you could say something in the next week or so (before I have to pack my computer up) that would be great. Blaziken 09:14, 1 June 2012 (PDT)

  • Sorry it took a day to get back to you, just had to think as I do appreciate your gumption. To be honest though, I can't think of anything in particular, BUT that's just to the best of my knowledge. Head over to the community portal and ask there, there might be some people to have some ideas. Just do me one teensy favor - be sure to sign your posts (that's four ~ in a row) so we know who you are when you post. --Champthom 07:29, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
  • thanks! Blaziken 09:14, 1 June 2012 (PDT)

Bruce Johnson

The Bruce Johnson thing is real. I don't even care about the PVCC anymore. I just want you to know I'm not making up what I added to the cwicki. Would you like a wider screenshot of the facebook convo?--Steve Landcleamer 19:26, 20 June 2012 (PDT)

  • How do you know it's the real Bruce Johnson? Or rather, why should we trust you? I could easily have made a Bruce Johnson account to fool you. Even if it is real, do we really need it? All it boils down to is Johnson saying he's not a pedophile contrary to what Chris said. Is this really a startling revelation, that Chris said something negative about someone and it's not true? Do we really need to confirm this, in light of Chris's history? --Champthom 23:36, 20 June 2012 (PDT)
  • 'Sup bitches, guess who's back? Champy, thought I'd drop in to tell you that under the "no shit is too minor" policy, (which you should really get rid of if it enrages you so), we do indeed need to confirm everything if possible. That said this is still probably bullshit, and confirming this still isn't your job. If you want my two cents, give Landcleamer a chance to convince you of its authenticity at least. I'm sure you have high standards for what you'd accept as convincing proof, so either someone else will go out of their way to contribute something valid, or he can fail to do so and you can say no again. Worst case scenario, Steve Landcleamer turns out to be the weenest of ween trolls and goes through a lot of work to convince you of something fairly inconsequential that can be removed if it later turns out to be fake anyway. The way I see it, this isn't a real problem for you either way. Let the monkey dance. Also, your insulting summaries were hilarious. --Old meme 02:12, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
  • I forgot to add in the summary that our friend Steve here wanted to be let into PVCC on the basis of this "startling" revelation. As I've said before, "no shit is too minor" should mean that we don't overlook things, not that we need to get third party confirmation on everything. Anyone who's familiar with Chris knows that his memory isn't totally accurate and he's been known to bullshit. Given that Chris has called Michael Synder a Jew, does this mean we have to contact Michael Synder and confirm whether or not he is a Jew? Do we need to contact Mary Lee Walsh to make sure she's not in fact secretly a witch planning on banning true love from Virginia? It should be pretty obvious that Johnson probably isn't a pedophile, and what does his admission of not being a pedophile say? He could be lying for all we know, I'm not saying he's a pedophile, he probably isn't, but his admission of not being a pedophile shouldn't be startling. I mean, did you expect him to say "Chris got me, I'm a kiddy piddler, I love little boys and molesting them as they sit on my lap and I do horrible profane things to them." Of course the answer is "no," why do we need to have confirmation of this?
As I've said before, I don't like people bothering Chris tangentially related to Chris about stuff. I think having known Chris is punishment enough, it doesn't help to have epic ween trolls like Steve here think they're gonna get into PVCC on the basis of harassing these people and asking them for information about Chris. I think it's pretty damn weird and spergy to do this, that is to contact people with tangential relations to Chris and ask them details about Chris. Someone on the CWCki Forums is like "No, it's not weird, it's just like liking any celebrity like the Kardashians." Here's the thing - I don't think celebrity magazines are hunting down the lady who served one of those Kardashian people coffee and doing a full length interview. It's bizarre, I would be weirded out if some person went up to and wanted me to tell them everything I know about some person I vaguely remember from years ago.
This isn't exactly someone who served Chris coffee, it's a major figure in Christory.--Steve Landcleamer 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
Burden of proof is on Steve and he's on shakey ground. I don't trust him one bit. I don't like having things that could very easily be false on the CWCki because it hurts our reputation and people already distrust the CWCki as it is, I don't need to give them more reason to distrust it. I don't want to give people an incentive to make up fake bullshit and post it on the CWCki with the thought they'll be declared an epic ween troll for getting "new" "content" and that they'll get into PVCC and that mommy and daddy will finally love them because they'll no longer be wastes of human flesh.
You have to REALLY convince me here, Steve. --Champthom 03:18, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
  • Hey, no objections from me. Steve wants to dig up trivial information to try and get into PVCC, that's his business. It's not like it would at all harm the CWCki to put up a single quote from the man if it does turn out to be true. Though really, you need to do something about the abundance of ween trolls trying to get into PVCC, or even just normal idiots desperately begging for it, like 16BitAlex. Maybe the guys in the forum itself or on IRC get a good laugh out of them, but I personally just get depressed when I see people like Stevey-boy cluttering the CWCki recent changes, desperately pursuing some unattainable goal by making bullshit edits and whining as hard as possible on talk pages. It wastes your time, it wastes mine, it's rather sad, and it's not even entertaining enough for the guys on /cwc/ to get more than a single thread from it. All in all, a pathetic affair for all involved. I would suggest temp-banning Pipecleaner if he continues to make a nuisance of himself after this, under your "Drama whoring" clause. --Old meme 06:13, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
  • Champ, you have my email. This might be a dumb idea on my part, but I'm willing to give you the facebook login information so you can see the message for yourself. I'm willing to trust you to not fuck with the account, just to go into the private messages and verify the authenticity. After that can I be allowed back to the cwicki forum, under the understanding that I'll never ask to join the PVCC again?--Steve Landcleamer 07:50, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
  • I think /cwc/ has made a good point, a point I have, is that - what did you expect him to say? Of course he's going to say he didn't molest Chris, even if he did molest Chris he's not going to admit it to some stranger. So having him say that he didn't do it isn't saying much, because either way he'll deny it and that really doesn't add anything to the discussion. And like I said, given Chris's background, we know he exaggerates things, and that his recollection of events aren't always the most reliable, do we need to actually get confirmation of this?
Ignoring the issue you wanted to get into PVCC, I don't see what it really adds to the discussion. I also don't want to encourage people to hassle people connected to Chris to get information.
If people feel like it absolutely, positively must remain in the article, I'd say something like "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..." or something like that so people can interpret it however they please. --Champthom 02:38, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
  • Alright, can we keep it in under that wording?--Steve Landcleamer 06:34, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
  • How do we even know it was from Bruce anyway? I'm not doubting Steve Landcleamer has a message on his facebook, I'm 100% sure that if anyone where to get onto his facebook they would find said message...I'm doubting that it's Bruce. People have been faking to be people Chris knows for quite a while (like Megan), this wouldn't be a first.--4Macie 09:10, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
  • Why would someone make an entire fake facebook account full of pictures and friends, on the random change that years after its creation someone recognizes them as Chris Chan's old principal, just so they can dish out false information? If that was the case surely they wouldn't have just said that Chris is a liar and insane.--Steve Landcleamer 10:43, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
  • May I ask a question? Even if you did successfully contact Chris's old principal, why was the only thing you could ask "R u pedo lol?". The big questions about Chris's time at NGE are "Why was he sent to the principal?", "Why exactly did they record his screams, was it because he was a repeat offender?", "Why was he transferred there from Greene County Primary?", and "Were the principal's lap incident and scream recording incident the same incident?". Any of those would be worth adding to the CWCki, and it would have cleared away most of the fog surrounding the event. Instead you asked for information that everyone already knew. It's like you stumbled into a garden containing hundreds of delicious alien fruits and came back with a half-eaten ordinary banana.--MoarLurk 15:00, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
Firstly, if you read the screenshot, you'll see I did ask him what really went down with Chris being sent to his office and having his screams recorded. All Johnson says is Chris is liar. Secondly I figured asking private information out of the blue about a former student would get no answer, by connecting it to the fact that Chris is getting sued by Snyder (who he also claimed was a pedophile), the message comes across as a concerned citizen looking out for Mr. Johnson, rather than some creep obsessed with Chris, and thus got a reply.--Steve Landcleamer 13:56, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
  • I would also add that just because the Facebook profile is full of pictures and friends doesn't mean it isn't fake. It could just be a -really- good fake. The kind of fake that leaves no obvious evidence that makes it easy to discern as a fake. As to why someone would have done it, stranger and less tactically sound things have happened, enough that I can conceive of and not be surprised by someone doing it for exactly the reasons you mentioned, regardless of the lack of point in doing so. -Perpetual Lurker 15:17, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
I will be happy to provide you a link to the facebook page, along with it's postings dating years back, and you still tell me this is can all be chalked up to an elaborate troll scheme.--Steve Landcleamer 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
  • You don't need to. I checked the page in its entirety (at least as much as I had access to) before I posted here, and did again before posting this. I think this is more of a difference of opinion than anything: the factors that convince you that it is real (profile in existence since 2008, existence of friends and wall posts, etc), don't automatically convince me. Like 4Macie said, if this is a fake, it is hardly the first time someone has done it. I'll also reiterate my opinion that a -really- good fake will not have any obvious signs that it is a fake. I'm not saying that the profile is fake, just that there isn't any compelling evidence that it isn't. My official position is that it exists, and people more savvy and/or more connected than I can verify the truth of it all if they choose to. Whether it is or it isn't, I'm inclined to agree with Champthom in that Bruce Johnson not being a pedophile is hardly an earth-shattering surprise. At best, it's just (allegedly) confirming something everybody but Chris already believed to be true. -Perpetual Lurker 17:51, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
  • Does anyone object to keeping this info under the wording Champ suggested, "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..."? --Steve Landcleamer 15:43, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
  • I don't think we should put it on here at all until Champthom is convinced it's real. Also; epic ween, brah.. --Old meme 03:33, 25 June 2012 (PDT)

My thoughts

I think the wrong focus here is whether it's indeed real or not. Supposedly this Facebook profile has been around a while, has plenty of photos, etc. What motive is there for someone to go into such detail and for what purposes? It's pretty easy why someone would want to impersonate someone like Megan or someone Chris knew from high school - so Chris will see these people, decide to talk to them, and they'd then be able to troll Chris. What purpose is there for someone faking Bruce Johnson? Why would Chris decide to contact Bruce Johnson? I can only really imagine Chris deciding 1) to look up Johnson and 2) taking the effort to contact him mostly to say something like "You molested me you pedofork!" and mind you, Chris is pretty lazy so he wouldn't go to that much hassle. So we have to possibilities - 1) someone has planned since 2008 to troll Chris and has created a believable Facebook profile, all for the motive of trolling Chris or 2) it's actually Bruce Johnson. Occam's razor would suggest the latter.

I think the real issue here is - how can we be sure it's real or not? There's no way of knowing whether this is real or not. Are we supposed to take Steve's word for it? What's to stop other people from making similar claims? People love making shit up about Chris and using that as a way to get attention for themselves or in Steve's case, to try and get into PVCC. The CWCki was designed purposely to separate truth and fact and that's why I take this sort of thing seriously, namely that I don't like things of dubious origins to be cited as facts on here.

But also, let's consider - why the hell is this so damn important? I mean, it's just Steve saying "Chris says you're a pedophile" and Johnson says "No I'm not." Is that really startling? Will this totally change the way we look at Chris's claim? You know what? Even if he was a pedophile, do you really expect him to admit to a strange he molested children? So his confession says nothing really. I think that a reader of the CWCki should be familiar with Chris's track record with memory in that he tends to remember things in his favor (like that he was a Pokemon gym leader vs. Lucas and Mimms's claim that he only did it one time when all the regular people were out), plus that repressed memories in general can be dubious and that it's very easy to construct pseudo-memories. Let's be VERY generous and let's say that Chris was indeed molested by Bruce Johnson. Does this really excuse his homophobia? I'd say no. True, it'd be a more valid reason than thinking that you can "turn" gay but I think that really only justifies not liking one particular gay person. Let's say a black person robs me - does this justify me being racist to all black people? No, that'd be silly, just because one particular black person harmed me doesn't mean I should hate blacks as a groups. Same thing applies to Chris and gays.

Side note - Steve, don't break up one of my posts, because it looks like you wrote that whole bit when I in fact did.

In regards to your comment, you're right, this isn't like someone serving coffee - it's much weirder. It's more like if a complete stranger approached you on the street and asked you about the guy who sat two seats in back of you in English class and demanding you tell them every single detail about them. No, Chris isn't a celebrity, he's our bizarre obsession and we need to be honest with ourselves, it's sorta weird. If it wasn't for trolling, Chris would be an ordinary, dull person, albeit with some eccentricities but just an ordinary person who you might look at a few extra seconds if you were to pass him by but not a celebrity by normal standards. If you think it's normal to contact people who vaguely know people from ages ago and ask them for every single detail about said person, they'd probably think you're some sort of stalker or there's something mental with you.

So should we have this tidbit on the article? Like I said, I don't think it really adds anything. If it's generating this much furious debate, I don't think it'd be wise to include it. This isn't about me not being convinced, it's about not convincing the CWCki community as a whole. Like I said, I don't think we're losing out on anything major here.

Those are my thoughts at least. --Champthom 05:20, 25 June 2012 (PDT)

Why not include it? Isn't there an inherent interest to here Johnson's response even though it is what we'd assume it would be? It can only make an article stronger. Take for example a New York Times article about an alleged criminal, it will always make a note that they contacted the accused, even if the person simply replies with a refusal to comment.

Including Johnson's comments in the article helps verify what people suspect about Chris (he made this incident up). Isn't further information/confirmation better than none?

As far as proving the facebook message was not some photoshop, I'm still offering Champ access to the acount so that I can prove I am not doctoring things (and if I was wouldn't you expect the details to be a lot juicier?)--Steve Landcleamer 17:41, 25 June 2012 (PDT)

Seriously, why are you trying so hard for this? I'm pretty sure anyone who reads what Chris thinks about Bruce would naturally assume that Bruce didn't actually touch Chris inappropriately and that Chris's screams were not recorded for Bruce's amusement... --4Macie 21:15, 25 June 2012 (PDT)
I've already explained myself. What is the harm in including it?--Steve Landcleamer 06:46, 26 June 2012 (PDT)

So would you like the account info? I'd like to definitively prove that this is real and move on.--Steve Landcleamer 17:26, 27 June 2012 (PDT)

  • I don't think anyone doubts that you received the message, the uncertainty lies in whether the account you received it from is genuine which cannot be proved by someone logging into your FB account. And also whether it's important enough to go on the CWCki anyway. Samboy 02:07, 28 June 2012 (PDT)

The what's wrong with the wording Champ suggested, "From a Facebook message purportedly from Bruce Johnson..."? We've already established that there's an incredibly slim chance that it's a fake account, and this would reflect that small margin of error.--Steve Landcleamer 06:41, 28 June 2012 (PDT)

  • Ehhhh ... I'm still inclined to basically agree with Champ in the respect that this isn't really all that important and we're not losing out on anything major by not including it. I too also wonder why you're so insistent on this. Is this really so important that it's been worth the eight days of discussion thus far? That it's worth giving your Facebook info to someone to prove the authenticity of a point that is almost unanimously considered too minor to really be worth the effort? Which to me, I might add, seems an awful lot like something -Chris- would do, or would have done in the past. Honestly, the more you insist on having this put in the CWCki, the more skeptical I am and the more I feel that, for you, this is less about documenting things related to Chris and more about trying to boost your cred and adding more contributions to your credit. Or, like Champ already pointed out, trying to get into PVCC. Near as I can figure, the only one who is determined to see this in the CWCki is you. --Perpetual Lurker 12:52, 28 June 2012 (PDT)
    • This. --Old meme 05:39, 29 June 2012 (PDT)
  • Alright fine, you don't want it, I'll stop pushing it. Champ can you let me back on the message board? I didn't violate any rules and it's been two weeks already.--Steve Landcleamer 20:05, 29 June 2012 (PDT)
  • You broke the rule about being a sperg. If you wanna go talk about Chris, why not try /cwc/? I'm sure they'll love you there.--Champthom 23:45, 29 June 2012 (PDT)
  • That's okay I'm content without being a member of either and just editing the cwicki.--Steve Landcleamer 19:08, 30 June 2012 (PDT)

Help me out.

I want to put this up as the video of the now but I'm not sure how. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r868reAYD4&feature=g-u-uBlaziken

Ban this fag

You won't make me a mod, so get on it. Reason is vandalism. Check his user contributions. --Old meme 09:23, 31 August 2012 (PDT)

  • Not seeing it, all he did was say that 789chan was down (it's not anymore). Not sure what you're talking about.--Champthom 09:35, 31 August 2012 (PDT)
  • He implied a permanent closure when there was none. So my mistake, not vandalism. Inserting false information into pages. Still ban him. --Old meme 12:05, 31 August 2012 (PDT)
  • /cwc/ was down for a while and had a domain parking site in its place, it'd be easy to assume it's closed. A hasty assumption, but not inserting false information. Just revert since it's not the case and move on.--Champthom 18:01, 31 August 2012 (PDT)
  • *stress sigh* Fine. I'll let it go this time. But I still believe you're not nearly harsh enough. --Old meme 08:53, 2 September 2012 (PDT)

banned

My IP is permabanned on the CWCki forum...this was the reason: "Multiple Ban Evasions - Keep Your Cool :) " I was told to come here and grovel before you.

Missed a pic

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The vandal from earlier uploaded Goatse here as well. Cleaner 07:49, 17 September 2012 (PDT)

^ Ditto. --IwegalBadnik 00:05, 22 September 2012 (PDT)

New Article

What do you think? Ready for prime time? User:Lumber/Chris and brand loyalty. --Lumber 11:30, 1 October 2012 (PDT)

New Article

What do you think? Ready for prime time? User:Lumber/Brand Loyalty. --Lumber 11:32, 1 October 2012 (PDT)

  • I was going to say, I'm usually reluctant to add another "Chris and..." article as I think they tend to be too speculatory at times. But I think this is a decent topic, as I've seen Chris's brand loyalty brought up from time to time on forums, though usually it's some component of it (like "Why is Chris so dedicated to Sonic?") and it's been a while since we've had an article of this caliber written. It's not perfect, but then again I don't think any article on the site is perfect. It looks like you did your homework, as did the other people who contributed to the article. So why the hell not? Go for it, dude. --Champthom 05:21, 2 October 2012 (PDT)


Ban Evasion

Ban Evasion for What???? I had over 100 posts and had been here for more than a month. I posted in the Cwcki forum inquiring about posting on the General Forum and Smoked Daddy sent me a link to the General Forum to make a formal request. Smoked Daddy approved my request and I was initially able to post in the General Forum. I sent a message to Smoked Daddy saying the problem was resolved.

Because Smoked Daddy was new and somewhat unfamiliar with the technical side of this of the CWCki, the General Forum denied me access after replying to one thread and was no longer able to post. I sent another message to Smoked Daddy informing him that I still had a problem posting in the General Forum. I tried to log in to the forums this morning and saw I was permanently banned. -Kengel1021 06:52, 22 October 2012 (PDT)

  • You've been banned before, you know why I banned you before, you don't ban evade on my forum (i.e. sign up for a new account). Take it like a man instead of ban evading like a pussy. I don't care if Smokedaddy was okay with it, you've been banned before and you're still banned, don't think you're that clever. --Champthom 06:55, 22 October 2012 (PDT)

Clever about what Champ? Are you implying there was some sort of subterfuge when I registered a new account? I registered a new account after you lifted the ban (from the 789chan controversy) to avoid any more controversy with my old name on the forum.

I openly stated this right on your userpage under the topic "Permanent Ban". It's still there and was there ever since registered the new account. You must have known I was the same person I registered with the same name, same address, same birthdate and the same hyperlink to my webpage. This was right on my profile. Surely you check your userpage on regular basis.

On second thought: If it makes you feel better thinking I conspired against you, go ahead and enjoy your forum -Kengel1021 10:55, 23 October 2012 (PDT)

ban evasion?

I'm confused as to why I'm banned from the forum. I never tried to register another name or anything. I wasn't a trouble maker and never had to be warned.

Forums are offline

It looks like something bad might have happened to them.CompyRex 18:11, 6 November 2012 (PST)

Hey, Champ. I have webspace, and I'm willing to take up hosting responsibilities for the forum. Let me know what you think. SushiHazard 12:57, 7 November 2012 (PST)

This shit

Hey, I know you're probably busy with the forums and all, but this guy is uploading some pretty stupid shit. Considering this isn't ED and all, just thought you should know about it. Giantgroundsloth 20:46, 12 November 2012 (PST)

WelcomeBot Doesn't Work?

I notice that the WelcomeBot doesn't work anymore. Is it intentional or a glitch? Alan Pardew 20:09, 13 November 2012 (PST)

why was I banned?

Seriously, why the hell was I banned? All I get from it was Mew jumping to conclusions, Nia complaining about my description of my Chris dream, and Trombonista acting as if it's my responsibility to tell all the members something they could easily find out on their own.- Murderdartxker

  • I'm not taking this all out on you but please, for the love of God, if you're going to ask me why you were banned tell me who the fuck you are. If you're using a different user name on the forums than your CWCki account, I need to know because I have no way of looking up your ban. I don't have access to any IP address stuff on here (the CWCki proper) so it's not like I can match it. Also be aware that I don't follow every single thread on the forums and I'm not responsible for every ban. In fact, I personally rarely ban people. I have no problem looking into why you were banned. I just need to know who you are so I can look your account up because I'm not a psychic. Alternatively, in the future, you can contact me at cwckiforums@gmail.com. Not taking this all out on you but I don't know why people who come on here using completely different usernames than their forum account expect me to know who they are. --Champthom 04:48, 19 November 2012 (PST)

My username is the same.- murderdartxker

  • Ah, here we go - Brooklynbaliff told me you shitposted, had some posts end up in Spergatory, and failed to take advice not to shitpost. Then you ban evaded by pretending to be a "friend" and asking why you were banned. I'm not kind to ban evaders, but I'll see what I can do.--Champthom 07:05, 19 November 2012 (PST)


Banned for My Protection?

"You know, most people don't PM me when they ban evade. Look, I'm doing you a favor, so you're not the next Chris-chan."

You're not fooling me. You're not "protecting me". You're not protecting anybody from "digging themselves into a hole". I've sat in 789chan (now n0chan)while you're so called 789chan policy was practially a laughingstock. In fact Champ you were responsible for Mew getting on their lolcow list.Kengel1021 15:17, 30 December 2012 (PST)

  • I don't care. If you want to see what happens when I allow people to be spergs on my forum, ask Paul David "Eyebrows" Smith. --Champthom 08:03, 31 December 2012 (PST)

You are like many people with Asperger Syndrome who try using computer logic with a predictable result when it comes to human behavior. Such and such was mentioned on n0chan: Therefore such and such sperged. Not surprisingly, you are laboring under a misconception concerning PaganDeathKnight. This was not just simple sperging. He unethically requested Megan’s dox, and then tried selling his services as a field agent. Most significantly, he came onto 789chan trying to be an internet tough guy much like Robert Wayne Stiles. In other words he was feeding the trolls. Judging whether someone becomes a “Chris Chan” is not a computer-like science; it’s an art that requires intuition and individual judgment (i.e. analyzing thread direction, social interaction of the threads, emerging patterns, relationship history) and it’s different for each individual. Yes some things can be deducted but much of this is intuitive (reading between the lines) and you seem to be unable to do this. This can be learned by an Aspie such as yourself if you are willing to take the time to lurk in n0chan and study the threads and the patterns of interaction. --Kengel1021 19:30, 1 January 2013 (PST)

locking non-talk pages

i changed the config so that non-jerkops/sysops can't edit the main namespace. talk pages are still editable. tell me how it works out --Cogsdev 04:44, 23 January 2013 (PST)

Hey

Do something about the spam usernames all over RC pls. Thanks. Aschlafly 17:33, 28 January 2013 (PST)

Forum Decision?

Hey Champ,

My offer still stands about hosting the forum. Seeing as the relief forum just kicked the bucket, now may be a good time to move on.

My email is ichverbot at gmail dot com

--Null 20:24, 29 January 2013 (PST)

Forum Setup

I sent a reply 2 hours after the original email, check your spam folder. I've already set up the forum. http://cwckiforums.com

I've registered you an account called Champthom with full admin powers. The password is in the email.

--Null 13:56, 31 January 2013 (PST)

Email Received

I sent another email to your personal address. Let me know if you got it.

--Null 18:34, 31 January 2013 (PST)

Re: For Pete's Sake

Thanks, I'll remember that. Alan Pardew 00:05, 10 September 2013 (PDT)

Sagas

I would like to ask you to please review the page on sagas, as there has recently been the addition of a "Revalation [sic] Saga"--as though a new era is upon us. I am skeptical of its legitimacy, so I appreciate it if you took a look. --IwegalBadnik 00:48, 8 October 2013 (PDT)

Facebook revamp

Hi, I've been trying to clean up the Facebook sections of the wiki. I wonder what you have to say about my changes.

Also, I've made some comments in the portal, and I would like you to look at this: CWCki:General#Facebook_revamp.

ChaosAkita 07:57, 5 November 2013 (PST)

  • Hi it doesn't seem like you have any opinion on my current facebook revamp, so I will be finishing it up as I've done the rest of the posts. ChaosAkita 14:26, 19 November 2013 (PST)

Hate to bother you about this

Would you mind deleting my first upload of the 6th photo commented on by Chris? The reason is that I'm a moron. --DawnDusk 02:55, 1 January 2014 (PST)

Did that for you. Alan Pardew 06:57, 1 January 2014 (PST)
Thank you very much. --DawnDusk 07:12, 1 January 2014 (PST)

Re: Welcome Template

I am aware of that, but when I did so, this is what I got, everything's perfectly fine except for the final part: http://i.imgur.com/OtWcjdA.png

Grace Baptist Church

Good day,

I'd like to ask for your consultation. I've come to the conclusion that the date for Chris's expulsion from Grace Baptist Church provided by the article on this subject is wrong, and I have stated my reasons for thinking so here. I'm hesitant however to amend the article because this would mean reverting a five year old edit. Seeing that among this wiki's active users you have been here for the longest time, I'd like to know your thoughts on this matter. - NegaCWC (talk) 23:49, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

  • I'm not sure how we got that date, I imagine it's mentioned somewhere if you dig for it. It's possible that someone just guessed the date. If you can't find a source for the date, I'd say it's better to err on the side of caution and say that Chris was banned sometime in that general time range instead of an exact date. Or just putting a "citation needed" might work to say that we don't have an exact citation for it.
Just because an edit is really old doesn't always mean it's right. There's usually some reason for it but we didn't always have high standards and as I've mentioned before, because we don't have a lot of editors, bad content can be left for long periods of time without someone catching it. --Champthom (talk) 10:05, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the input. As far as I can see not only there aren't any sources for that date, the sources we do have argue against it (see Grace Baptist Church talk page for my arguments). I'm going to wait a couple of more days to see if anyone has anything to say on this matter, and if there won't be any objection I'm going to edit the article according to my plans. - NegaCWC (talk) 15:58, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Context for Twin Falling Towers

On the forums you suggested that someone told Chris he should make Twin Falling Towers because Clyde worked in the Twin Towers. However, the article precludes this. Now, it wouldn't excuse Chris' behavior, but it would add some context to the situation and make it seem less A-Loggy if it was true that he didn't come up with the idea all on his own. Is it safe to say that a troll at least may have suggested this idea to him? --Holdek (talk) 16:16, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

I recall seeing a post where someone actually influenced Chris to make a video, and if it does, I agree that context should be added. Alan Pardew (talk) 16:32, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
  • I don't recall saying that. Not saying I didn't, I just don't remember saying anything about that video. I certainly don't remember anything about it being because Clyde worked at the Twin Towers. I can say that I'm like, 99% sure that someone suggested he make this but I don't have a public source to verify this. I consider myself reliable but I don't want the reason it's cited as "because Champthom says so" as the reason. Truth be told, pretty much all but a very few of Chris's videos were made because someone suggested or motivated him to make a video he might not have made.
Saying he might have been influenced isn't awful, but it just seems very wishy washy and you can argue all sorts of crazy stuff about Chris if you suggest he "might" do something. I'm not an A-Log, I wasn't personally offended by the video like some people were but I think that even if Chris was motivated to do this by someone else, Chris lacked the discretion and judgement to realize that making a video mocking what's a national tragedy in the minds of many people as being in extremely poor taste and that is what people would find reprehensible about Chris. Again, I don't think this justifies the A-Log arguments that Chris should be trolled because he made that video or that makes Chris an amoral monster, just that Chris exercised extremely poor judgement that he really should have been able to exercise. --Champthom (talk) 12:14, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback. Maybe I will just delete this part then: "Many believed that Chris must have been motivated by a trusted friend into creating such a video for the express purpose of causing Chris to embarrass himself for our amusement, but there has been no evidence to support this theory. Chris just managed to do something so autistic that it was difficult to believe, even for him." That seems to be speculation itself, and anyway the rest of the article already talks about how tasteless and offensive Chris was in doing this. --Holdek (talk) 20:38, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Anna's CWCki account?

In 2011 a user called FFFFFUUUUU edited the CWCki and claimed to be Anna, and you responded to him/her under the assumption that this is indeed everyone's favorite Mormon. It is confirmed for certain that Anna is the operator of this account? If so, can I edit the article on Anna to mention her edits to the CWCki and likewise use her edits as a source about her relationship with Chris? - NegaCWC (talk) 16:37, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

CWC Videos on Archive.org

Hi, you seem to be the highest-in-command here. I thought you'd like to know that the Internet Archive has a collection of CWC videos here. That should preserve his legacy for a REAL long time. Letter Z (talk) 17:05, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

  • Wow, that's pretty impressive. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.--Champthom (talk) 17:28, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
You're welcome. :) I'm actually the guy who uploaded all of those videos—in their highest resolution. Let me know if any videos need uploading on the collection. Plus, I've backed up this wiki and archive.sonichu.com here and here respectively. Hope I've helped out. I'm sorry for starting out here with some sexism comments. I've had bad experiences with girls in my past... Letter Z (talk) 20:30, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Unable to make new pages

Hi. I am unable to make new pages because even though it gives me a notice about needing to play a game to prove I'm human, it doesn't show me the game. I'd like a little help with this, please. --FromtheWordsofBR (talk) 19:40, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

CWCki

Why does this wiki exist? Is it because Chris is just about everything bad a human can be? :P Letter Z (talk) 18:50, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

DVD photos

Hello. I was just browsing through the video of Chris's old DVD that he released in 2007. There is a big disparity between the images shown on the video and the images found in "Category:DVD slideshow images." While many of the missing images are scattered around the CWCki, there are many shown on the video that I've never seen before and I can't find anywhere on the CWCki. For some reason, the slideshow images were uploaded to the CWCki in bits and pieces by different users. My question is, do you or any other old-timers know if these images are saved somewhere? Where did they come from originally? When Chris gave PandaHalo a copy of the scrapbook, did she also get the old photos?

I would like to restore this photo album, and I'd like to get my hands on a few particularly interesting photos. Any assistance would be welcome. Thanks. --asperhes, 1/31/15.

  • Panda dropped an entire .rar or something along those lines of the DVD slideshow. If I'm not mistaken, she did a drop of the DVD slideshow and then of his scrapbook. I'm curious what images may be missing. I remember I was the person who initially uploaded all the images from that .rar, one by one so it's plausible I might have missed one. It's been a while since I've seen the DVD slideshow but I don't recall seeing images that weren't in the DVD.
It's possible that the images you're thinking of are on here, but not properly categorized. Unfortunately, there are many things on here not properly categorized and personally I'm leaning on that explanation. --Champthom (talk) 14:20, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Favicon

MediaWiki noob here. I don't know who else to talk to, and you seem to be pretty well-versed in the workings of the site. I made a Favicon for the CWCki, but I don't know who to send it to in order to get it on the site. Would you know what to do about that? This is what it looks like: Chris pokeball.png Pwnisher248 (talk) 03:27, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

  • I swore we had a favicon, must have been lost at some point. That's a fine looking one, I'll see what I can do. --Champthom (talk) 13:17, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Cool. I'm a noob so I couldn't figure out how to get rid of the white border, but someone who knows this stuff better than me could. Pwnisher248 (talk) 17:23, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Retiring from the CWCki?

Hi Champ, just wanted to check: are you going to retire from the CWCki in addition to the forums? --Holdek (talk) 15:08, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Broken MediaFire Links

Hello, so all across the wiki are broken Mediafire links, and it's pretty bad. Is there any way that these links could be repaired by reuploading the appropriate files so that the public can download them? By the way, I've reuploaded a lot of Chris material on the Internet Archive (including two YouTube videos blocked off in the U.S.): https://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22christian+weston+chandler%22. I could upload the material (or you guys can) on to the Internet Archive, where they try to preserve anything that is digital.

I originally posted this on the Main Page's talk, but seeing that you were around for so long, I thought you can probably repair a lot of the links. Letter Z (talk) 22:10, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Can You Lock The A-Logging Page?

I added some guy named Henry Panfil to the Wall of A-Logging Shame (seriously, if wanting to see Chris chop his own dick off doesn't qualify you I don't know what does). Now he keeps chimping out and re-editing the page with unrelated shit. I don't mind people talking shit on me, but I don't want to see it done on unrelated pages. My apologies if I'm in the wrong here. Newwaveknight (talk) 20:56, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Champ's retired man. The last thing he ever did over here was from last year, and he said on the CWCki Club that he will no longer be really active. Go yell at [[User:Canine|Canine] instead. -Windows OS (talk) 22:45, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Where'd you go?

RIP --DawnDusk (talk) 03:12, 26 July 2021 (UTC)