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*I don't know. We are assuming a lot about Chris with the whole 'Wild will be against him thing'. He thinks they are real, sure, but he still has god like power of them, and he still dictates what their personalities are. How do we know that he won't just imagine Wild as forgiving him for it because he was blackmailed? Now if no one was alive to forgive him on the other hand, then he'd feel some kind of guilt, and no one would be able to tell him that its all ok. Beacuse, everyone will die painful deaths. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 02:23, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
*I don't know. We are assuming a lot about Chris with the whole 'Wild will be against him thing'. He thinks they are real, sure, but he still has god like power of them, and he still dictates what their personalities are. How do we know that he won't just imagine Wild as forgiving him for it because he was blackmailed? Now if no one was alive to forgive him on the other hand, then he'd feel some kind of guilt, and no one would be able to tell him that its all ok. Beacuse, everyone will die painful deaths. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 02:23, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
** Let's put it this way--Chris once had to take Ivy and Panda out of the comic and his first reaction was "KILL THEM BOTH".  Chris was confronted with bullshit accusations of Rosechu being a former male Raichu and his first thought was "QUICK, LIE YOUR WAY OUT".  He'll never pick the most rational approach to anything, and despite his godlike power/allies he's very bad at using it to his advantage in situations where they really would have helped.  There are at least three things he can do to fix this and he can't think to do any of them.
1.  Kill Simonla and magic Wild into moving on.
2.  Use the reboot as an excuse to replace her with a new character(He doesn't even need to think of one, the mailbags gave him three Rosechu OCs and there are more on DA).
3.  Have her evolve into another character entirely--Pokemon cannon can justify total personality and appearance changes and Hobo Chris could use his powers to make everyone think she was always like this.
Chris is too stupid to just make Wild move on and as with everything else uses his "pure gold on first try" approach.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 03:18, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

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Chris and Remorse

Yeah, you're on to something interesting here. The pattern of long-winded explanations in his apologies is clear -- see also his excruciating descriptions of sex acts for Megan back in the day. One of the crucial components of a good self-delusion is the belief that everyone else thinks exactly like you do, or would if you just had the chance to explain things... Dkaien 18:50, 3 November 2009 (CET)

Good so far. I think a key component of his "remorse" is that, over and over again, he's really just sorry that he got caught. This is very similar to the behavior of small children, who often fail to understand the difference between the mechanistic action-and-reward system of apologizing and averting trouble, and genuinely regretting a past error. Yet another example of the fact that Chris's only real problem is that he sees the world through the eyes of a five-year-old. Pretty much all of his fucked-up misadventures can be traced back to that. Sygerrik 20:16, 3 November 2009 (CET)

Chris's Closed Mind

I like what you're putting together. I was actually starting to write up an article intended to be something like, "Chris and Hypocrisy," to discuss all the things Chris does and is okay with, but then turns around and condemns others for doing the same things. I hadn't gotten far, but I'd planned to touch on some of the same things you're discussing here. Alteceastlansing 06:53, 3 December 2009 (CET)

Chris and Hypocrisy is awesome, so I'm just gonna see if I can incorporate what I've written here into it. It's entirely possible however that taking that action would just make Chris and Hypocricy LESS awesome, so I might just delete this altogether.--Beat 01:58, 14 December 2009 (CET)

Asperchu

If we have a main namespace article, this should really be called "Asperchu." We're more interested in what actually is invoking Chris's rage and not the guy himself. Instead, what I suggest is we have an Asperchu article which is somewhat along the lines of what you're going at here (documenting the relationship between Chris and Asperchu) while maintaining the Fan page where readers can read more about specifics of Asperchu (characters, plots, etc.). --Champthom 03:08, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Asperchu already redirects to Fan:Asperchu. I figured that since Chris was screaming for Alec's death, that made him a notable troll. Still, I guess I can tweak it a little bit to be about Asperchu instead of Alec.--Beat 03:29, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
I really like the page so far, though Champthom is right that it should be focused on Asperchu first and Alec second. ALBASPERCHU 10:30, 11 January 2010 (CST)
When the man himself tells you to rewrite it, I fucking rewrite it! This shouldn't take long.--Beat 16:42, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Your observations on Wild

You're exactly right. Chris cares about Wild's opinion because he thinks Wild has a personality. Remember, he thinks Bubbles has a "caring, but stern" personality when she is in fact utterly one dimensional. Same with all of the Rosechus and it's not a far cry that the Sonichus suffer the same fate. He doesn't have to show us their personalities because he already knows that, so we should as well. Chris is, after all, the guy who expected us to know what he dreams about.

Chris doesn't want to off Simonla because then he'd fear that Wild would come after him(Kind of like Xent's Magi-chan fic), and he'd have to kill Wild too. Then the Combo might try to kill him for murdering their leader, and he'll have to kill them and all of their satellite characters. Reginald, Layla, Blake, Silvana...then Sonichu would protest the murder of his friends and attack Chris, so he'd have to kill him. And then Chris will have made Rosechu a widow, and he'll have to kill her, as Crystal was not a Pokemon in the dream and Rosechu cannot be his sweetheart. And then he'll have to kill her kids so they won't be orphans, thus offing Crystal.

Tl;dr, if he kills Simonla he'll go on a murderous rampage and eventually kill the Sweetheart Sue and the Crystal Sue.

  • A little far fetched, but I think that its a good idea to try and cause something similar ourselves. What if we didn't stop at Simonla though? What if we took something precious to Chris and blackmailed him with it? What if we go beyond Evan's forcing him to kill Simonla and just force him to destroy the entire fucking town? There goes his safe haven, and then he'll be forced to face the real world. I propose a vote. All in favour of nuking CWCVille say Aye. --Edward 19:26, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
  • That would be nice, but what hurts Chris more? Knowing that his safe haven is now a radioactive husk(the Sonees were in the "horrible death by radiation" zone and shat out their innards), or knowing that if he goes to his safe haven, Wild will be there to accuse him of murder?--MoarLurk 20:32, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
  • I don't know. We are assuming a lot about Chris with the whole 'Wild will be against him thing'. He thinks they are real, sure, but he still has god like power of them, and he still dictates what their personalities are. How do we know that he won't just imagine Wild as forgiving him for it because he was blackmailed? Now if no one was alive to forgive him on the other hand, then he'd feel some kind of guilt, and no one would be able to tell him that its all ok. Beacuse, everyone will die painful deaths. --Edward 02:23, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
    • Let's put it this way--Chris once had to take Ivy and Panda out of the comic and his first reaction was "KILL THEM BOTH". Chris was confronted with bullshit accusations of Rosechu being a former male Raichu and his first thought was "QUICK, LIE YOUR WAY OUT". He'll never pick the most rational approach to anything, and despite his godlike power/allies he's very bad at using it to his advantage in situations where they really would have helped. There are at least three things he can do to fix this and he can't think to do any of them.

1. Kill Simonla and magic Wild into moving on. 2. Use the reboot as an excuse to replace her with a new character(He doesn't even need to think of one, the mailbags gave him three Rosechu OCs and there are more on DA). 3. Have her evolve into another character entirely--Pokemon cannon can justify total personality and appearance changes and Hobo Chris could use his powers to make everyone think she was always like this.

Chris is too stupid to just make Wild move on and as with everything else uses his "pure gold on first try" approach.--MoarLurk 03:18, 14 February 2010 (UTC)