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So is "antichrist enhances world". [[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 06:56, 13 March 2011 (PDT) | So is "antichrist enhances world". [[User:The Iconoclast|The Iconoclast]] 06:56, 13 March 2011 (PDT) | ||
== On the removal of a large chunk of the intro == | |||
Someone posted the other day how they objected to "transvestite" listed to the intro, saying it's made it seems like being a transvestite is a bad thing and that really got me thinking. As elaborated elsewhere, the CWCki doesn't really try to beat in an idea of Chris. It tends to be critical, nothing wrong with that, but it tries to at least aim for [[CWCki:NPOV|NPOV]] at least as it pertains to our context. I think starting off the article with "Chris is a bad guy who's a whole bunch of unflattering personal characteristics" is going to leave the reader with a negative impression from the get go - of course you're not going to like this guy, you've had it drilled into your head he's a bunch of unpleasant things like "stubborn," "racist," etc. But what should happen is someone reads this article, like "Okay, this guy is a bit off" and then let them decide that based on the facts, whether or not he's really fucked up. If you're going to say Chris is fucked up, let the facts about Chris speak for themselves, you shouldn't need to lead the reader into this. | |||
I also had issue with the linking. For instance, take - "racist" linking to [[Chris and race]]. As you can see on the talk page of that article, there was some debate whether it should be "Chris and racism" versus "Chris and race." I argued for "Chris and race" as it's more neutral and whether or not Chris is racist should be left up to the reader. Yet having "racism" link is going to have the reader read that article expecting Chris to be racist. Once again, let the facts speak for themselves - let known facts about Chris's relationships and comments on certain races allow the reader to determine for his or her own self whether Chris is a racist or not. Hopefully these articles don't insinuate Chris is a certain thing, in which case I need to go through and review some of these articles carefully. | |||
So what did I leave? I left high functioning autistic (why was it in quotations? The [[autism]] article makes a strong case that he is autistic) because this is what Chris describes himself as. Also, he's a virgin - once again, his own description. I was very generous with leaving "man child," which I would say is leading the reader but this seems to be a most popular characterization of Chris. | |||
If you'd like to debate it, you're more than welcome to here. Sorry to take advantage of editing it when the page is locked, I think I'll change it so only new users are blocked from editing the page for the week. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:38, 26 July 2011 (PDT) |
Revision as of 08:38, 26 July 2011
...Okay, is it just me, or does Chrissy look drastically different when he's wearing his glasses compared to when he's not? Like, I almost can't believe it's the same person. I mean, I can, since no one else could possibly be that much of a fucktard, but he just looks really different. Or am I imagining it? Ayvuir
- Hey, it works for Superman. Ensign disposable 14:09, 7 September 2009 (CEST)
To do
- pics of Chris, especially young Chris and the funny ones
- life history
- brief outline of his views
- his future outlook
I'll do what I can to help this page along. I'm a wiki noob, learning as I go here. So, it won't look the best... MajorIronwood
We should add a sentence or two on the fact that he thinks he can call himself Christopher, just because it share the same abbreviation as Christian.~gourmetpickle
- Christopher WAS his name, until he changed to Christian when he was 12.--UncleBastard 20:43, 10 March 2009 (CET)
- Boy, do I feel stupid. But then again, if he changed his name, he should have to pick or the other.~gourmetpickle
- That reminds me, we should add a few sentences about why he changed his name - I forget where but he had some story (maybe it was in the DVD slideshow) where he says how some teacher kept calling him "Christian" and the name "had a ring to it" so he changed it. --Champthom 16:52, 17 March 2009 (CET)
- In addition, from El PokéSite 2, Christian considers his Spanish name to be Ricardo - Likely named after the Ricky Ricardo character from I Love Lucy. Realistic equivalents might be found in Cris, Cristián, or Cristóbal, but clearly these were not featured in the television shows he had watched prior to his High School Spanish classes. Mall Conductor Bear 09:25, 12 May 2009 (CEST)
- To be fair, one's "Spanish name" need not be the same as their real name. For example, in 7th grade my Spanish name was Jose, though my name isn't Joseph, and in 10th grade I was Che, even though I'm not Argentinian. --Champthom 06:02, 1 June 2009 (CEST)
- More Name Crap: "-Chan" suffix is generally used for a little girl in Japanese. Chris is possibly too dense to realize this, and enjoys the similar pronunciation to 'Christian'. In doing so, there was no need to create a word jumble of existing letters, as that convention was given to his more open alter-ago. LBearington 05:25, 1 June 2009 (CEST)
- In addition, from El PokéSite 2, Christian considers his Spanish name to be Ricardo - Likely named after the Ricky Ricardo character from I Love Lucy. Realistic equivalents might be found in Cris, Cristián, or Cristóbal, but clearly these were not featured in the television shows he had watched prior to his High School Spanish classes. Mall Conductor Bear 09:25, 12 May 2009 (CEST)
- That reminds me, we should add a few sentences about why he changed his name - I forget where but he had some story (maybe it was in the DVD slideshow) where he says how some teacher kept calling him "Christian" and the name "had a ring to it" so he changed it. --Champthom 16:52, 17 March 2009 (CET)
Racism and Noviophobia
Evidence of it goes back further than was previously thought. Read the notice to guys on this sign from when he was 21. "(and to all MEN with girlfriends, except marrieds and blacks, go jump off a cliff)". Where the white women at? --Tumbleweed 04:10, 26 March 2009 (CET)
- I don't think that's racism though, because he's saying EXCEPT blacks. I think maybe he's paranoid about telling black people to jump off a cliff, because otherwise that's a hate crime. Sorta like when he made that post on his MySpace "I Respect the African American People." --Champthom 04:12, 26 March 2009 (CET)
- Possibly, but since he's already stated that he simply doesn't like black people, I don't think it's likely. And besides, I don't think it would make much sense to make a special exception to black people unless you were hyper PC or just afraid of black people. (not to mention that he explicitly asks for only white women in later requests / demands / whines) --Tumbleweed 09:48, 26 March 2009 (CET)
- Yeah, it's racism. He's saying "Blacks don't need to jump off a cliff, because I'm using my outdated and quriky view that blacks stick with blacks relationship wise, and the same is true for whites. So, I don't worry about blacks impeding on my 'love quest.'" However, I don't think Chris would be able to articulate that well. --Tregnier2795
- Just a thought, should there be a separate article that would count how many times he's been racist other than his views of niggos? --AntonImausMk2 04:29, 3 November 2009 (CET)
Mr. Darcy is much better than Chris, y'hear.
I had it noted, along with a picture of Colin Firth as Mr. Darcy to compare the two, that Mr. Darcy and Chris are in no way similar. This came about from the cliche "Well, he's no Mr. Darcy..."
I think it's a good visual aid. --Tregnier2795
Let me tell you about this page
It's great. It's fantastic. I read it for the first time in a while and I think it's the perfect, concise intro to Chris. The ED article on Chris sucks because it's so all over the place. True, we have the luxury of being a devoted wiki that instead of having to go into depth about Sonichu, we can just link to the article. The ED article is shit because it goes over the place, it's a bit out of date, and it picks poor samples of Chris's videos like just highlighting the "gaybian" vid. This is a fantastic article and this is why people come to us. --Champthom 10:03, 1 December 2009 (CET)
Since there's no actual "Chris and..." page
I hope it's okay to discuss it here. I was wondering if a "Chris and Intelligence" page can be of any use. Some things to cover are his 1) logic, 2) academics and 3) philosophy (to cover his stupid quotes and advice). --AntonImausMk2 09:56, 7 December 2009 (CET)
- That's sorta what honor roll is at the moment, though it really should be expanded to that as opposed to the focus on art (which really isn't what honor roll is about). Why I suggest honor roll because Chris will say something like "I'm smart, I was on honor roll." "I know math, I was on honor roll for the love of God!," etc. --Champthom 10:07, 7 December 2009 (CET)
We need a "Chris and Aspergers Syndrome" page. --Cody
CWC split?
"CWC" should redirect here, but I'm thinking maybe we should make a page devoted to Chris's initials. He uses them a lot, they're a recurring motif in his work, and we can even keep track of when he uses them as a pun (like "A CWC Audition"). Thoughts? --Champthom 10:09, 7 December 2009 (CET)
Page Needed
Chris and Reliability - Cody
cleaned-up, needs to be expanded/updated
--Sonijew 22:29, 29 December 2009 (CET)
Contact information?
Okay. I realise I will be stepping into what can only be described as but a cat's whisker from the maw of hell- but I would like to talk to Christian Weston Chandler. I have a great deal of things to discuss with him and, rest assured, there will be luls. What is the best way to get in touch with him these days? I tried Facebook, but he doesn't seem to be checking it very often (I'm guessing he has a lot of trolls talk to him). I've also taken to staking out his AIM, but I'm guessing he doesn't use that either due to people spamming him with JULAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY. Ronichu 02:26, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
- Are you a licensed therapist or religious official? Because I think a team of a shrink, a priest, and a journalist would be needed at this point. Vivian Gee tried to get through to him, Lord love her, but she's not a doctor--didn't even finish high school, I do believe. Look...I've had my share of problems growing up, and I know no one can compliment you and make you feel like a turd all at the same time like a school admin. I've got a kid brother who is an unrepentant drug addict and thief, who probably could have been reached if we'd gotten to him sooner. He's now a burned-out piece of crap who is on his third (maybe fourth, I've lost count) jail term. He's about Chris-Chan's age. I say someone better do something or else Chris'll be in jail or an institution before he's thirty, and then he'll be the taxpayer's problem. What will they do when his folks croak off? He's got a couple of half-siblings, but they've got their own lives to lead; they don't need a man-child with a lukewarm I.Q. underfoot. Could we live with ourselves if he flips out and kills a bunch of people in a mall or a campus somewhere, and maybe we could have done something if we'd been proactive five or three, or even just a year ago, to prevent it? The Iconoclast 19:37, 28 January 2011 (PST)
- Although it pains me to have to use the phrase, the CWCki is not a forum. Take shit like this elsewhere. Also, you're responding to a 10-month-old comment. Freecell 20:27, 28 January 2011 (PST)
I don't own a PS3 so somehow contacting him via the Playstation Network is also out. I live in Australia, so this makes things difficult. Thoughts? Suggestions? Ronichu 14:20, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
- It's pointless to try and talk to Chris, as he will just ignore you. --BreadGod 14:42, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
- Alec knows his personal phone number. I think that if you ask him nicely he might tell you. He certainly dosn't owe Chris anything. His Asperpedia account is ALBASPERCHU and his email is albasperchu(at)live.com --Edward 15:40, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
- 1) please sign your comments (it's four tildas [~] in a row). 2) Chris's contact info should be in 14 Branchland Court, 3) if it isn't, it should be there. I think Cogs didn't want it with the logic is that if you have to ask for Chris's phone number and can't find it yourself when he's mentioned it frequently, you really shouldn't be trolling Chris. However, people asking for it all the time is annoying and it defeats the purpose of CWCki being an open source of information.
- Actually, I tried calling that number but either I fucked up international dialing (entirely possible) or it was disconnected (which is what I thought it said). Ronichu 02:26, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
- That aside, I can guarantee that Chris will not listen to your call.--Champthom 16:26, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
- I know he'll ignore me, but at least it'll be funny. I'm not attempting to, directly, help him. Ronichu 02:26, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
- CWCki is not a place to discuss how to troll or help Chris, if you want to contact Chris, do it, it won't have any effect on him whatsoever.Basgon 03:21, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
- I'd actually love to know if there's some online contact information at all. Inquiring minds need to know, since he evidently doesn't go on IRC anymore. anyone know where he can regularly be found? Boop 05:29, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
- I've yet to be able to find anything besides an AOL address. Does he still use that account? PrimeMinisterStephanHarper 17:26, 27 September 2010 (PDT)
Misapplication of social rules
Maybe this comment should go under the Autism page or the Honesty page but it seems like Chris's view of "Honesty" is likely influenced by an unspoken rule amongst nerdier internet communities where being extremely, unnecessarily open in private, especially with things verifiable by a third party, is seen as a way to build trust, due to the fact it is difficult if not impossible to establish it otherwise. My point being, he may have picked this sort of 'honesty' up from a geeky community somewhere. Insidious611 05:06, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
I will note said openness doesn't USUALLY extend to ones bowel issues or other information nobody in their right mind would want to know. But it may extend to relationships and especially trouble therein. Insidious611 05:07, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
You forgot to mention...
Christian Weston Chandler (born Christopher Weston Chandler on 24 February 1982) is a perverse, narcissistic, homophobic, sexist, racist, overweight, delusional "high-functioning autistic" virgin etc. etc.
What about "uncultured" (as shown by his not knowing the story of To Kill a Mockingbird'' and thinking Molvania is a real place) and "tone deaf" (his so called "album", need I say more?)Knucklechu 10:20, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
- If the purpose of this article was to make a list of all the negative adjectives that could be applied to Chris, it would be 20 pages long.--Beat 11:53, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, er... I just got done adding a bunch of those. This is going to be the first sentence of the first page that a lot of people are going to look at. If there's this really stupid, unwieldy list of all the totally horrible, totally accurate descriptors, they'll be like, "No way, no one can be that bad." But they'll... y'know... —Thepicklesuitintheman 03:40, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
Anagram crackers
Interestingly, "clownish tender anarchist" is a perfect anagram of Chris' full name.
So is "antichrist enhances world". The Iconoclast 06:56, 13 March 2011 (PDT)
On the removal of a large chunk of the intro
Someone posted the other day how they objected to "transvestite" listed to the intro, saying it's made it seems like being a transvestite is a bad thing and that really got me thinking. As elaborated elsewhere, the CWCki doesn't really try to beat in an idea of Chris. It tends to be critical, nothing wrong with that, but it tries to at least aim for NPOV at least as it pertains to our context. I think starting off the article with "Chris is a bad guy who's a whole bunch of unflattering personal characteristics" is going to leave the reader with a negative impression from the get go - of course you're not going to like this guy, you've had it drilled into your head he's a bunch of unpleasant things like "stubborn," "racist," etc. But what should happen is someone reads this article, like "Okay, this guy is a bit off" and then let them decide that based on the facts, whether or not he's really fucked up. If you're going to say Chris is fucked up, let the facts about Chris speak for themselves, you shouldn't need to lead the reader into this.
I also had issue with the linking. For instance, take - "racist" linking to Chris and race. As you can see on the talk page of that article, there was some debate whether it should be "Chris and racism" versus "Chris and race." I argued for "Chris and race" as it's more neutral and whether or not Chris is racist should be left up to the reader. Yet having "racism" link is going to have the reader read that article expecting Chris to be racist. Once again, let the facts speak for themselves - let known facts about Chris's relationships and comments on certain races allow the reader to determine for his or her own self whether Chris is a racist or not. Hopefully these articles don't insinuate Chris is a certain thing, in which case I need to go through and review some of these articles carefully.
So what did I leave? I left high functioning autistic (why was it in quotations? The autism article makes a strong case that he is autistic) because this is what Chris describes himself as. Also, he's a virgin - once again, his own description. I was very generous with leaving "man child," which I would say is leading the reader but this seems to be a most popular characterization of Chris.
If you'd like to debate it, you're more than welcome to here. Sorry to take advantage of editing it when the page is locked, I think I'll change it so only new users are blocked from editing the page for the week. --Champthom 05:38, 26 July 2011 (PDT)